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College Football Fans Fret Over Tax Deductions

WSJ What's News

07:25 min | 2 years ago

College Football Fans Fret Over Tax Deductions

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We're following a federal judge has granted CNN's emergency request to restore the White House press credential to correspondent Jim Acosta. The ruling temporarily restores the credential while the legal case continues. The White House says it will follow the court's order and is working on new procedures to maintain order. Among the press corps. The Federal Housing administration. Says it expects a fourteen point four billion dollar loss to its mortgage insurance fund in the coming years due in part to inflated, home, appraisals growing losses. Could mean higher insurance premiums for borrowers on FHA backed mortgages, the FHA and shores about eleven percent of US single family residential mortgage debt and data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York shows household debt continues to rise increasing for the seventeenth consecutive quarter. Total household debt increased to more than thirteen point five trillion dollars in the third quarter. Balances are rising almost all types of borrowing. More Central American families with children have been arriving at the US border with Mexico in recent years to seek asylum from violence in their home countries under US immigration rules families with children who can demonstrate a credible. Fear of returning home may have a better chance than single adults of being release. Least into the United States. That's because the United States has a twenty day limit on detaining minors rulings on a Silom requests can then take several years due to backlogs in the US immigration court system. The Wall Street Journal continues to monitor Brexit for all of our coverage, including the latest developments and guide to possible outcomes. Visit wsJcom or the w s j app still to come. Why some college football fans are fretting over tax deductions. This podcast is brought to you by Harvard Business School executive education is your family office position for growth and success gain best practices in family wealth management at the new program, building a legacy family office wealth management. Learn more at H B, S dot ME slash legacy. College. Football fans are struggling with a change in the nation's tax code that. No longer allows them to write off the bulk of their season ticket costs that deduction was repealed with the nation's tax overhaul. Joining us now in our studio to explain is Wall Street Journal reporter, Rachel Bachman. Rachel, can you explain how the old right off worked and how it's changed this year? Yes, we'll staple of college athletic departments. For decades have been premium seats at prime sporting events that require a mandatory seat donation, and these donations were eighty percent deductible, which of course, made them more attractive to the buyers last year's tax law. Repealed that deduction and so now schools have to decide how they're going to handle those tickets and fans have to decide if they're going to pony up the full amount with no deduction, why did the federal government seek this change? That's a great question. The short answer is I don't know. I think there's been some discussion about whether this is a sort of a boondoggle, you know, that that it's a. Tax break that isn't necessary and might be a little excessive, and you found out that this is playing out differently depending on the college we're looking at and they're also seems to be some confusion about the write offs are colleges pushing the IRS for more clarification on the change. They absolutely want. More information. It is clear from the law that the seat donations the direct requirement to donate money to in order to secure certain premium seats that is not tax deductible anymore, and that's settled. But what's not settled is what happens with larger donations that also might help you get better seats at the stadium. So for example, if I'm a big donor, and I want to donate to expand the football stadium or to rebuild the locker room say one hundred thousand dollars if I donate that money. I might also get priority points that would help me lift in the fan pecking order and one day get the right to move into better seats in the stadium. What schools don't know is whether those donations can also be tax deductible. Under the new law. So how much of a financial hitter they reporting how much do these specific types of donations make up for colleges will they can make up tens of millions of dollars a year. They're they're really an integral part of of the annual fundraising that all of the college athletic departments. Do certainly the prominent ones and it varies greatly from from place to place from what I can tell most fans are just going to eat the cost, and you know, it for for a lot it won't be very big. For instance, a season ticket often costs maybe four or five hundred dollars a fan might pay an additional five hundred dollars to secure a priority seat. So, you know, if you if you do the math, it might only increase that person's costs by a couple of hundred dollars and for most loyal fans. That's just not gonna make the difference. And you spoke to fans and colleges. How are they coping while they await further clarification of this nervously, a number of schools really didn't wanna talk to us. I think that's because they're not entirely. Sure what the IRS is going to say. And they also don't want to scare off their fans and donors. They don't want to discourage any type of giving, of course, some schools just are simply proceeding businesses usual and are just hoping that fans will keep coming. Rachel. Did you talk to anybody who knew this was coming? And were it was able to get ahead of the law before the change will. Yes, this was actually a big fear of a lot of schools. And so many of them told donors, you know, you can pay ahead sometimes several years ahead to take the deduction now and really delay the decision about whether you're gonna reappear season tickets into the future and many people did just that. That's Wall Street Journal reporter, Rachel Bachman. Joining us in our studio. Thank you so much Rachel. Thank you. And that's what's news. I'm Anne Marie for totally in New York for the Wall Street Journal enjoy the what's news podcast. Then try the what's news newsletter. Sign up at W S, J dot com slash newsletters. That's w s j. Dot com slash newsletters.

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Brenda Tracy Speaks Out, 'The Wave,' Backwards Runner

Only A Game

48:45 min | 1 year ago

Brenda Tracy Speaks Out, 'The Wave,' Backwards Runner

"This is only a game. I'm Karen given. It was the fall of two thousand fourteen Brenda Tracy had just turned forty and she was in crisis after years of trying to ignore what had happened to her during the early morning hours of June twenty-fourth nineteen ninety eight she'd finally started seeing therapist. So I felt like I'd open Pandora's box. And I didn't know what I was going to do. And I didn't know how to find closure. So one night while I was you know, angry trying to figure this out. I thought about coach Riley Mike Riley had been the coach of the Oregon state football team back in nineteen ninety eight he left for the NFL the following year. And after a few seasons in the pros. He was coaching Oregon state again. And I thought well, I don't like him. I've been angry with him for all these years. Maybe I could find hailing through him Brennan knew she couldn't just walk into Reilly's office and say remember me from sixteen years ago. So instead, she turned Google and as reading about him, I was literally reading. Years and years and years of articles about what a great man, he was and that didn't resonate with me at all one article among the dozens chastised Riley for his handling of a player accused of domestic violence, and I clicked on the reporter. And I said see coach is not a great guy. This is what happened to me. And I just wrote a angry Email to someone. I didn't even know who it was the reporter was John consign. Oh. A columnist for the Oregonian. Couch because I it's not what you expect not. But narrative that you get on Mike Riley. This is the moment when I would usually pause to warn you that parts of brenda's story are very difficult to hear entry parts of brenda's story are so difficult to hear that. I can't put them on the radio still this story involves sexual violence, and is definitely not for everyone. Essentially, she was saying, you know, Mike Riley. I don't trust him. He's not a reputable person and p didn't support me it nineteen ninety eight when I was gang raped in nineteen ninety eight Brenda Tracy accused four men, including to Oregon state football players of gang rape. But for reasons we'll get into a little later. She didn't agree to testify in court after the charges were dropped coach Riley gave the Oregon state players a one gain suspension and described their actions as quote, a bad choice. He was supposed to be a good guy. He was supposed to be building men in a football program. I don't know how gang rape is a bad choice. And I didn't understand the one game suspension. I mean, are we good people if we don't do the right thing. But as far as John casino new Mike Riley was a good person everyone thought, so not a guy even using profanity on the football field. He wrote his bicycle too. Practice. Very folksy very home down cares about kids. You know? Here was a guy if anybody was going to be an advocate for survivor. It was gonna be Mike Riley. Brenda agreed to meet John for coffee in the lobby of downtown Portland. High rise had in her hands in the Noah's folder. And inside of. It was the case file for her her gang mate, you could tell it wasn't a fresh copy. It was something that she had carried around. She told her story. I almost like she expected me not believe or but John did believe Brenda right from the start. And there was something else. He took from that meeting. It wasn't going away for her. It wasn't ending for her. And I didn't know that I necessarily play a role in helping her get resolution, but you know, she stood up, and I hugged her, and I told her you've got a story. This is a story. And he said John was story seriously. Who cares nobody cared? Then. Why would they care now? He's like, no, I think you could help someone and I said fine put my name in my face on it. And what happened Brenda told John that she saw herself as a victim? But. John kazaa, no sauce something else. I said she's going to be governor. And I said that before we even wrote the first piece because I felt like she had something. There was something to her that was much bigger than anything that ever happened or. So here's what happened to Brenda. Or at least here are the details. We can put it on the radio I was sexually assaulted by men. I believe I was drugged. So I was in and out of consciousness for my attack which lasted about six hours. And I know this from the police report, I then went the next morning. I got a rape kit at the hospital. I made a report to the police all four men were arrested and charged. They were all facing twenty years in prison, but because two of them played for Oregon state university. The backlash was quick immediately. People said who is she why she lying west you trying to ruin these young men's football careers. I started receiving death threats given the pressure. And then also the DA saying, I didn't have a good case. The DA said it was a he said she said, I dropped the charges. And then my community said see we told you she's a liar because if she was really raped she would prosecute. And this is where that case bio comes in the one Brinda carried around in a tattered Manila folder, because according to the police report Brenda had a really good case all for men had admitted to sexual contact with Brenda. They had also admitted that during those six hours she'd said, no many times and begged one of the men to stop. They said did you force her to do this? Yes. I did. But it wasn't right. I mean, it was a slam dunk case when you talk the prosecutors Jonzon did talk to prosecutors and be precise. They told him that there's no such thing as a slam dunk when it comes to prosecuting sexual assault cases. But this was pretty close. But Brenda says no one told her that just turn it off his should've put their arm around her and said, look, we're in this together. Let's get you the counseling you need. And let's get these guys off the streets. And instead, you know, when she said, I don't think I can do this. They just said, okay. And they moved to walk and that didn't serve the community didn't serve Brenda and serve anybody with that football program in his investigation. John found that the district attorney's office the police and the university had a history of holding annual meetings to discuss how to handle cases like these John spoke with prosecutors and with university repre. Sentitive he even managed to speak with one of the men Brenda had accused though, he still denied that. What happened that morning was rape at what point in your investigation. Did you contact coach Riley on this? Pretty early on. Because you know, I expected in my experience it was going to be very difficult to get him to make a comment, and I got a surprise like two or three days into this. When he returned to call himself, and he owned it. And just said, I had no idea. Unlike the university, he worked for John says Riley never saw copy of the police report, but Brenda Tracy didn't know that all she knew is that a coach a man charged with building young men had described her gang rape as quote at bad choice. I can rationalize a rapist. I can even rationalize bad people. They do bad things hurt people. But I can't rationalize good people who don't do the right thing. On November fourteenth two thousand fourteen Brenda Tracy story appeared in the Oregonian. It was the first time she was publicly identified this time Brenta's community believed her amazingly, they did I was really surprised because this is before the metoo movement. This is before all the scandals we've been saying in sports, Baylor and all that stuff. But it was amazing my community. This time believed me, and they reached out to me they loved on me. They get a lot of Oregon state fans who were saying disappointed. They were with administration at that time had a university saying we could've done better at a book program say we could've should've done better six hundred seventy one comments where left on that story. One was signed by coach, Mike Riley. At what point did you become aware that Mike Riley had commented on the story? Pretty early on. I in ritually, I thought that can't be real that has to be somebody faking who does that. Right. It was real. Here's what it said. Today's column by Jonah regarding the circumstances of sexual assault on MS Brinda, Tracy is shocking and her suffering saddens me, it is with heartfelt compassion that I will reach out to miss Tracy and offer to assist her. I hope we have the opportunity to meet in the near future. And if she feels comfortable invite her to speak to the football program. Her experiences would be a powerful message. And what I know our whole team would take to heart Mike Riley, head football coach, Oregon state university. There are so many coaches in today's world of college football that would claim amnesia lie. But here was a coach who was willing to say. You know, what I could've done better, and I wanna meet her, and I wanna tell her that in person. And I wanted to talk to my team, I didn't think it was lip service from him. We tried for months to schedule an interview with Mike Riley for this story. And while he told us that he'd love to talk. We were never able to make it happen in the months after the article and the Oregonian follow up investigation were published. John and Brenda spoke often at town hall meetings and community gatherings. But it was full of women, and she would say I wish we could get to man because this is a an issue that men need to solve this is an important point. When Brinda says, this is an issue many to solve she's not saying the obvious that men need to stop committing crimes of sexual violence. Yes. The vast majority of sexual crimes are committed by men, but the vast majority of men will never commit a sexual crimes like ten percent of our male population that are committing crimes of sexual violence, which means at ninety percent of our men don't but the ninety percent can be complicit in their silence. They can be complicit in there in action. So I need men to get involved. I need them to become active if the ninety percent of population men women LGBTQ, however, you want to identify yourself as a human would push back on the ten percent. Maybe we could gain some ground on this. Maybe we can stop this travesty. When John can sano, here's Brenda Tracy speaking like this, he realizes that his first assessment of her was wrong, really wrong. I now realize governor was too small, you know, like, I think she's got a bigger role. I don't know if it's a lawmaker or somebody who's just going to change the viewpoint that men have about women through her advocacy work. Brenda has helped change the laws in Oregon to extend the statute of limitations and protect the rights of rape survivors. And she's spoken to thousands of college athletes to bring them in on her mission. But to do all that Brenda I needed to reach men with her message, and that wasn't going to happen. As long as women were the only one showing up to her talks. And this is where coach Mike Riley comes back into the story. Two years. After Jonzon owes articles were published in the summer of two thousand sixteen Riley wasn't coaching at Oregon state anymore. He had taken the head. Coaching job at Nebraska, and I actually didn't think that I would hear from him. I was a little bit of a PR nightmare for him. I was talking a lot about how much I didn't like him in the media. But he reached out to me from Nebraska and invited me to still come there after a brief phone call that she describes as superficial Brenda, Tracy flute in Brassica to speak to coach Riley and his football team. His assistant was bringing me in and he kinda pointed at office, and I remember I froze in my tracks. And I said is he in there in the man said, oh my God. Yes. He is. Are you? Okay. And I took a big deep breath. And I was like, yeah. I'm okay. But then I had to tell my brain tell your right foot to move. Tell your left foot to move like I was savvy to tell myself to like move your feet, Brenda walk forward, and Brenda and I got into the door when he looked up. And I'll never forget this. But he his face became bright, he smiled and he said, hi, Brenda. And I am mmediately began to cry, and we hugged and I cried on his shoulder for about a minute. It was amazing. And then I sat down, and I told him how much I hated him for sixteen years. And how did he take that? Wow. Coach Mike Riley is a lesson for all of us in accountability. He held himself accountable to me, he apologized to me. There's a big difference between I'm sorry, period. And I'm sorry. But. And coach Riley did the first and it meant everything to me. And it was a huge moment in my life. And it did a lot for my healing. A few minutes later coach Riley took Brenda into the team room. Where one hundred twenty football players had gathered to hear her story coach Riley stood right off to the side of me were all of his players could see him. He was holding himself accountable to them. And I told them my story, and I didn't leave anything out. I didn't sugar coat anything, I was brutally honest and brutally graphic Anna Eva said to them at one point. I hated your coach more than my, rapists. And they all looked at him. He didn't he didn't flinch. And they all looked back at me because they didn't know what to do with that. And I could tell that they were uncomfortable. I was uncomfortable to. That night the story of Brenda, Tracy, and Mike Riley, unlikely reconciliation was all over the news and word got around to other athletic departments at other universities, like another school called in another school in another school in another squash. Just been kind of going now for like what two and a half years. Now every time she speaks to a team or athlete department. Brenda makes herself and her audience uncomfortable on purpose because the thing is is that if I say to you I was gang raped by four men for six hours. I don't know what that means to you in most likely, you're gonna sugar coat it in your own mind. So that you can be comfortable with what happened to me. But I need you to be uncomfortable. I need you to recognize that I'm the victim of a crime. And so I have to tell you in graphic detail. What that means? And that's what I do. And then when I talked to you about my life now, my advocacy. Than you have you have no choice. But to see me as a victim who has now become a survivor, sometimes a player will come up to Brenda after her talk and disclosed that he too is a survivor often. It's the first time he's disclosed to anyone. Brenda says she lives in a lot of trauma. But she says it's worth it. So in all of my talks, when I sit in the room with these men, there's a point where I say, I'm not here because I think you're the problem, I'm here because I know you're the solution if women could stop sexual violence. We would have already done it like, I wouldn't be a gang rape survivor. The women before we would have made sure that that didn't happen to me. And how the players react to that idea. Oh, they love it. I think most of the time we spend our time kind of wagging our finger at them telling them what not to do telling them that their their problem. And I'm like the first woman they've seen. This says I'm here to tell you what you can do. And they love it. These days. Brenda travels from school to schools speaking at as many as she can she has trouble remembering what time zone she's in. She's given up her career as a nurse to focus on her advocacy, work fulltime, but still she says there simply isn't enough time to fulfil every speaking request. I don't solicit myself to any school every single school dive into every single program that I've worked with they've found me, and they've invited me in and keeps on going men. Want to be involved athletes coaches want to be involved, and that's why they keep on calling me. Brenda Tracy has started a nonprofit it's called set. The expectation will have a link at only game dot work. You're listening to only a game from NPR this podcast is made possible by Samuel items for thirty four years Samuel Adams says made their Boston lager inefficiently Sam Adams Bruce with one hundred percent heirloom middle. Fru hops logging their beer for over a month. The Boston beer company, Boston mass savor the flavor responsibly. Hey, it's Peter Sehgal. Wait, wait, don't tell me. If you're a normal weight listener you shout out the answers to all the questions, and then you get frustrated that no one can tell how smart you are. Here's the solution. The wait wait quiz available now on your smart speaker, just ask your smart speaker to open the wait, wait quiz. Finally, your genius shall be recognized. I'm Karen given. And it's time for three stories, you should know works. Completed. No flag. That's the sound of the infamous no call at the end of last weekend's NFC championship game. And that's where we're going to start this week. Joining me are the Wall Street Journal's Rachel Bachman and ESPN's Ryan Smith. Welcome to both of you. Great to be here. Karen? Hi, karen. Great to be here. Ryan, you're up first. Okay. So let me paint a picture for you of my story. It's the championship game NFC championships. Saints versus Rams one minute. Forty five seconds on the clock. Drew Brees throws a pass to Tommy Lee Lewis and Mekelle Roby Coleman hits him so hard helmet to helmet clear pass interference. It seems to everybody in the world. But the referees. What is so amazing about this story is here we are days later and still it is the talk of football. You've got Steve Scalise talking about replaying the game you've got the governor of Louisiana writing letters to Roger Goodell saying change the rules fans are demanding a replay of the game. None of that will happen. But what is so interesting? What do we do about this missed call by the referees? That basically changed the destiny of both the Rams and the saints Rachel, what do you think? Well, I do think calls for more replay our way premature. I mean, I think the NFL is basically threatening to go into a staredown with MLB over who can have the longest games. This is not a good way to make no longer. It's fun when they go to overtime. But not when they go longer because of replace. So I think that is a very dangerous direction to move into just go toward replaying everything. And also, I think they're valuable lessons to be learned sports like life are sometimes unfair. And isn't it better to learn that in a football game? Then for instance, on a on a battlefield or in some much higher consequence setting don't tell that's all. That's all those saints fans out there, more screaming and yelling. But I will say this guy's the first thing is whenever a play like this happens in football. Or in any sport? We always forget about the forty or so minutes that came before. And all the other opportunities that there were to change the game. Everybody forgets about that. But what I also think is interesting about this is you've got a situation where everybody is saying change the rules. What's what's interesting about this? Is there wasn't a call? So people are asking for relay, but the way football works is you've got to make a call in a no call situation. What do you do? Then say why didn't you make the call? Then you're second guessing referees. But isn't that what replay is all about second guessing the referees? I mean, that's the whole point. Play. I go the exact opposite on this Bill Belhadj has been saying it since two thousand fourteen make all Kohl's reviewable. And I think in this case, it would be do non calls review -able too. But just don't give anyone any more challenges than they already. Have. I actually find replay in football interesting. I know that's weird. But you know, when you're watching on TV and commentators are discussing the rules and doesn't mean this. And did he do that? And you're seeing eight different directions on the play. I actually kind of find that entertaining where I'm with you. Rachel in baseball. I'm just bored. As can be whenever there's a replay call. I'm like go back to the game. This is stupid. I think making all calls reviewable is definitely a Bella. Check thing too. I think he would love five our game where he gets to challenge. Every call the refs are there to institute the rules, and by and large, and I know people hate to admit this. They do a pretty good job. I mean when you think of all the variables there is somewhere. Happy medium, but I can guarantee the referees. Or looking at this saying guys, we just made one mistake. And let's face it. It's already one of the worst jobs in the world. So this certainly will not make it any better more second guessing, definitely not. All right. The Brady Bella check era began seventeen years ago with the patriots beating that then Saint Louis Rams in the Super Bowl. And that has led some people to suggest that if the pats went again this year Tom Brady should retire. Now, I don't wanna debate whether he will retire but Brady should retire. And not for the reasons you might think this isn't about head injuries or whether he'll be able to remember the names of his children when he's fifty I say Brady should retire. Because we are all so damned tired of watching the patriots win. And I actually say that as a patriots fan. Maybe I'm not a very good patriots fan. That's quite possible. But I'm tired of being the most hated team in all the football. I'm tired of watching the poop emojis that come up on my Facebook feed every time my team wins another game. I'm tired of the endless debates over whether the team cheats. I'm tired of Giselle. I'm tired of the others. I'm just tired of it all and it wouldn't hurt me or my fellow patriots fans to remember what it was like to actually lose once in a while. And therefore enjoy the winning a little bit more. Ryan are you with me? I absolutely before different. Yeah. Yeah. You know, what it's about fairness? It really is. I mean three MVP's five Super Bowl wins nine Super Bowl appearances. With bela. Check, it's not fair all of us. We wanna win. We look at Tom Brady. He's to perfect. The man has an aged in two decades. And I was taught that sports are supposed to be fair and everybody's supposed to get a trophy. Where's my trophy? I'm Philadelphia guy and the eagles won at last year. But I wanted more than one trophy. Please rachel. Well, so corden what you guys were saying if Tom Brady retires world never hear another word about him ever again in the future. Right. So. Just being married to supermodel and having piles of Super Bowl titles will render him irrelevant for all time. You know, I kind of like this endless will hear won't he it's just like this wonderful perennial. Gossip column fodder, you know, about how he sort of patches his body together and various ridiculous methods. He uses to do that. And just the awesome sight of him continuing to be so excellent year after year, I kind of like the not knowing part of it. You know, what's so funny about Tom Brady and the patriots right now, they're so dominant that Tom Brady, I think was walking down the street the other day and heard somebody say patriots are going to do anything. And he literally made up a story line underdogs and got mad about it. So people could talk about them. So that we don't assume that their dominant this year. What is that? Just it's that age old ploy. He's but he's a pro. He knows that. Right. I mean, I have to admit I think the real the real reason I want Tom Brady to retire is because I don't want to live through the inevitable backlash when he does actually get to old perform on the field. And he loses more than one step, but three steps four steps and the whole country laughs at us in the beginning of the year. They said he lost his step and only did was become a top ten quarterback in their back in the Super Bowl. I don't know if he would have to lose about seventy five thousand steps he'd have to say I'm giving up on walking Rachel, what do you have for us? Well, the US women's soccer team entered twenty nineteen the number one team in the world. It had a twenty eight game unbeaten streak came out of it's January training camp as the favourite to win next summer's World Cup. Then last Saturday it lost it lost big three one in friendly to France in one of the various stadiums in northern France that will host. The World Cup Francis. Ranked number three in the world, look strong and confident in front of a sold out home crowd. The US team is the defending World Cup champion and has long been one of the most reliable bets in sports. So I'm asking you guys. Is it time to hit the panic button? They lost to the number three team in the world. And we should. What a great life. I think about the US men's team. They can't even go to the World Cup. They have a standing invitation to me to come watch it at my house the next time around because I don't think that either. Well, I agree that it is just way too soon to panic. In fact, I think we should really kinda never panic. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if the US became just a tiny bit less dominant at women's soccer. I mean for one thing watching the same team win every year is kind of boring. I'm looking New England Patriots. But also because the US women have a history of making it look too easy. And that historically has been a problem when it's come time to say figure out what these women deserve to get paid. So it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. If it looked a little harder. Sure, I'd love them to win the women's World Cup again this summer, but more importantly, I'd like to see fans get really excited about the tournament. And I. Think some tight games or maybe a loss in a friendly does help ramp up that excitement for what's to come. What if they did it on purpose? That is a good point. And I did sort of wonder if there is some gamesmanship by coach till LS because several key players for the US sat out including mega Pinos a great score. And so I do wonder if Ellis was sort of telling her team. Okay. Let's see how good you really are with when you're not at full strength. And I think we found out that you know, there are some vulnerabilities when they play in a hostile environment at less than full strength. But then they came right back and beat Spain. So it's not all it's not time. Indeed, their European tour unbalances is on track. My guests for this week's edition of three stories. You should know have been the Wall Street Journal's Rachel Bachman and ESPN's Ryan Smith. Thanks to both of you. Thank you. Karen? Thank you. The first time. I saw the wave was at my first baseball game. I think we were in San Diego watching the Padres. And all I really understood was that the game was taking forever. And then the wave came toward our section. I could not wait for it to arrive when everyone else stood up and wave their hands. I did to a loved it thus forward. A couple of decades to last fall. It's a beautiful night at Fenway park. Red Sox Yankees. It's one of those rare swift moving games with lots of excitement. Everyone's in a good mood except maybe SOX manager, Alex Cora who was ojected for the first time in his career. And then someone starts the wave, and I start to get really really angry seriously people there's a game going on an exciting game. What are you doing? Anyway, the man who claims to have invented this welcome diversion slash scourge on humanity goes by the name crazy. George henderson. This is crazy George it. I wanna tell you. It's a fact I don't play it. It did start in Oakland at the Oakland. A's New York Yankee playoff game up Tober fifteenth nineteen Eighty-one there was never been away before that date. Tober fifteen nineteen eighty one forty seven thousand fans of the open as say goodbye to an incredible season in most incredible way. The third game in the series. And we needed something. Big was forty seven thousand fans it was sold out. And the crowd was nuts tonight is a perfect example of what? The open Coliseum met this year. Everybody having a great time out here started the cheer in the fifth inning. Because I thought it would change the momentum of the game. It was still zero zero and the crowd never never saw anything like this before. Arising. Amazing. I've never seen anything like this. This is happening. Five able separate aspect in grad. Nothing on the failed. The next question is just how inhibiting this will be whatever it is. I do what I wanted. But the fans did not know what I wanted and I had to train them. The direction of great Georgia. They're having a good good evening and enjoying baseball enjoying the Coliseum. Not earning. Anybody and what happened is two weeks later, the university of Washington they saw it did they did the wave after that in every game. And that's what came to the false conclusion that they invented the wave because after they did it. They would do it against other colleges. The other colleges start doing and it spread from there. So they help spread it. But I invented it. And I did it up Tober fifteenth aided Tober thirty first, but they still claim this some of them that they invented it. That story was produced by reporter blow Walsh. We'll be right back with Charlie Pierce. Don't forget to follow us on Facebook and Twitter at only a game and PR. Before you can start your day you like to know what's happening in the news. That's what I is four. It's the morning news podcast from NPR. The news you need to take on the day in just about ten minutes. Listened up first on the NPR one app or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Karen given next week on only game the twenty fifth installment of Super Bowl haiku. But now Charlie Pierce is here with the week's news. Hi, charlie. Yarn apparently within minutes of the final whistle in last weekend's AFC championship game resale ticket prices for Super Bowl fifty three began to fall. That's not really how that's supposed to happen. Right. No. It's not and it's got the ticket resale industry. All flutter the fallen ticket prices being attributed by some people to the fact that the patriots have just been there too much and that the patriots fans don't care anymore. Well, tickets are selling five hundred two thousand dollars lower than they were this time last year, which sounds like quite a bargain until you realize that you're still paying somewhere between thirty five hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. Exactly, the ticket prices are reductions only, those people who will notice a thousand dollar reduction in their ticket price as opposed to the rest of us who would say, I'm not paying thousand dollars for anything. Well, never fear, Charlie. Because even though buying that ticket might empty your pockets. You can probably buy a hot dog and a soda with your spare change the Mercedes Benz stadium in Atlanta. They're known by the way for their moderate and concession prices. Anyway. Yeah, they're talking about five dollar beers and two dollar hotdogs. Now, see you have no respect for the two dollar. I have no respect dollar. I do not want the two dollar. Hotdogs, see that's the problem with people of your generation, you don't ring is. I mean, there are those of us who remember whatever hot dog was. According to the Atlanta Journal constitution. The Rams bandwagon is growing. Well. It could hardly be shrinking, right? Yeah. They lost a lot of fans in Los Angeles. When they moved to Saint Louis and lost a lot of fans and say lose wouldn't have been back in Los Angeles. And Los Angeles wasn't really ready for them. Anyway. But you know, it seems like you're catching on a little bit certainly making Super Bowl helps at having. The young charismatic coach the young charismatic quarterback. According to the NFL Charlie concussions were down twenty three point eight percent this season one way to interpret that number would be to suggest that the league's attempts to make the game safer or working. Right. I think the attempts to make the game safer a working. I think there's a top end to that though. I mean, you cannot make American football safe in any reasonable definition of the term because of the nature of the athletes and the size of the athletes and the intensity of the collisions. If these figures are true, that's a good thing. I mean twenty three percent is a lot. That's who knows how many Congo's. Of years for some players. It also could just be a fluke. I mean, the league is saying Sierra new safety measures worked, but we have to remember were coming off a record high number of concussions in two thousand seventeen which the league just said was a statistical anomaly, so you've got to statistical anomaly, so I guess next year tiebreaker. Charlie. It is time. They it is way way way pastime for us to discuss the dominance of Houston Rockets star James harden. What did he do have a good game? Maybe to the only player in NBA history other than Wilt Chamberlain who scored thirty points and twenty consecutive games. He has been insane over the past month, my favorite stat of all is that he would lead the league in scoring even if you didn't count free throws. Well, his last ten games are thirty eight points, thirty two points, forty two points. Forty three thirty eight fifty seven fifty eight forty eight thirty seven and sixty one g that thirty two point. Always stay always the team that held thirty two. I should throw him a parade. Mariano Rivera is headed to the hall of fame. I don't think that's any big surprise. But did the fact that he's the first player to be unanimously elected surprise? You surprised me and delighted me because we're not going to have to have the stupid argument anymore. They Ruth wasn't on a unanimous decision. Huck them x y and z United. I hope everybody's unanimous choice from now except Kirch alling. Well, when school of thought suggests that I'm totally paraphrasing here that it's not that Rivera was so much better than all the non unanimous picks that came before him. It's just that the social media era has made it much harder for baseball writers to get away with being absolute, petty jerks. Exactly, right. It takes a lot more effort to be an absolute petty jerk than it used to be. And the idea that this is a major leap that every voter thought Mariano Rivera deserve to be there and voted accordingly is a measure of just how high the whole process was and finally Charlie there has been much speculation about where baseball free agent Bryce Harper will end up next year. But it has all been revealed. Explain please anyone who's watched the evolution of Tony Romo into a national phenomenon. Because of his ability to call plays before they happy. Even which was demonstrated quite clearly in the final drive that one the AFC for the New England Patriots knows that he's now America's most prominent clairvoyance so Bryce Harper on the electric Twitter machine, which knows all and sees all said he called Tony Romo to find out where he was going to play next year. Rolo tweeted in back, then it's going to be the Rangers. And now the Texas Rangers are under all kinds of pressure to sign Bryce Harper. You can find the sports writing of Charlie Pierce at Sports Illustrated from time to time any joins us each week here on only a game. Thanks, Dr likes Karen. Super Bowl haiku submissions have been streaming in like this one from listener Markland SP fifty three it seems as if Tom Brady played in all of them submit your entry by Monday for your chance to be included in Super Bowl haiku twenty-five. Go to only game dot org or Email us at G at WBZ Hawar dot org. Justin Galloway used to be a pretty fast marathon runner. She's not anymore. But since she slowdown. She's gained more attention and set a Guinness world record only a games. Martin Kessler starts at the beginning. Justin Galloway started running because of her dad when I was a little girl. He would do his marathon training and the last block he would be picked me up. And I'd go for run around the buck with him just in grew up. In Teaneck New Jersey, her father James was a civil engineer in for that final. Block. Just dean would try to outrun her dad. I'm pretty sure he let me win regardless. He had ran twenty miles. So I think my legs were a little fresher. But yeah. But when Justin was six years old, the family learned that James had Parkinson's disease for a few years James continued to run he even completed marathon after his diagnosis, but eventually he had to stop just says she really started to understand what the disease met when she was ten years old. That's when her dad was laid off from his job. And we think it's because they knew he had Parkinson's Justin's mom Virginia went back to work as an office manager. So just kinda change your whole family dynamic. But I think because my dad was laid off I interacted with my dad a lot more and how the opportunity to really spend time with him. Yeah. How would when you guys spend time together? What would you normally do or talk about? We'd fight over the remote. And we just talk about normal stuff. I mean, we disagree about politics. But I was young at that point. And I didn't know, you know, but as I got older, I talked a lot about my running with him while the disease had forced James to give up the sport just kept going. I mean, running always came really easy to me. You know, it was kind of mindless like just I could go forever. Just teen run in high school. Her dad would always pick her up from her meets in nineteen ninety eight. She went to Rutgers to study engineering, and as a sophomore she walked onto the cross country and track teams, just never raced more than five kilometers. But when her college career was over she started taking on longer distances marching, my dad, do the marathons I always wanted to do it just seen ran her first marathon New York City in two thousand two she ran again in two thousand four in while James couldn't join justina for the final block of her training. Runs. He found other ways to be involved when I used to complain about not wanting to run he was the person who would be like sock complaining. Go run. Justin ran Boston Philadelphia at the two thousand nine New York City marathon, she set a personal record at three hours, sixteen minutes. A year later just before she turned thirty her father passed away. I always thought my dad was gone, outlive, all of us just because with Parkinson's. You know, it's a horrible disease, but you live with it. Right. So I think it was a shock to all of us. But I remember that we going for a run, and I just felt like the run meant so much more. Like, I was he was a runner. I am runner. I think that's one thing. We always had in common. No matter what we disagreed on was our joy of running. So I just remember going for run that week. And it was it was awesome. Like, it was just I was connecting to him a year later just seen entered the Boston marathon during the race. She felt like something was wrong. She was slow. She thought maybe her electrolytes row at mile league teen she dropped out just figured it was just an off day. In fact, it would be six years before she attempts and other marathon. A few weeks after dropping out of Boston Justin fell during a run a week. Or so later, she noticed something was off with her stride may left leg started kinda just staying up in the air too long. And then come down kind of swing out to the left. I couldn't describe the injury. I just knew I wasn't able to run like it wasn't mindless anymore. There was some my left leg was just it felt like a piece of wood. And I was just fragging my leg with me. It started to affect just teens walking to they got to the point where I would have to walk to the grocery store night Blake start to cry because it just it took so much out Amina walk there because my left leg just wasn't responding. Just teen saw doctors orthopedist sent eventually neurologists a lot of the doctors. I would see were like, I don't know what this is. So it must not be anything. Therefore, you're fine. It was extremely frustrating. Just because I felt like no one was listening to me. After about a year and a half of doctors visits. One urology resident had an idea. Maybe she had something called disconnect in involuntary movement that sometimes affects individual body parts. I start grueling disconnect on runners and runners just Canadia, and I found Argonne runners Estonia. Basically, the article said it happened to endurance runners around there thirties, which is weird. Because that's how old I was. And that they would just have their leg would not respond, and they compared it to like if you play Mozart your whole life. And then all of a sudden you couldn't play that one song. It's like your your finger forgot how to do it. And so I bought in the article and the neurologist was like, oh my God. This is this is what you have just in finally had an explanation for why she could no longer run runners Stony ah the way. I explain it in obviously, I'm sure a lot of people could explain a lot better. But it's like the wiring from your brain to your leg is fried. Do you think it's just a coin's? Since that, your father had Parkinson's, and that you have this or do you guessed that there some genetic connection? I don't I'm not sure, but I just in some ways it kind of ended ironic because I watched my dad lose running. And I was like I'll never I'll never lose running until I have to. And I didn't think I was going to have to make that decision at thirty one. You know, I thought I'd make that decision. You know in my seventies eighties without running to anchor her just decided to leave New Jersey in two thousand thirteen a lot of my friends in New Jersey where runners, and I was like I'm done with the running community, I came out to California, and I was gonna swim bike, and I was going to swear off all runners in. Here's where we need to tell you about one important discovery. Just ended made during her physical therapy sometimes during treadmill work her physical therapist would ask her to run backwards. I would be like I could do this forever. And it was weird that I could do it forever. Just in connected with another woman with runners to Stony. Who had discovered the same thing. And so when I was talking to her the other thing, she says she does is like zigzag lending. So it seems it's just confusing your brain enough. So after Steen moved to San Diego in two thousand thirteen she started going for runs backwards at first she fell a lot. Star running longer and longer backwards like five mile runs and six mile runs and eight miles runs. And and it felt good. It felt there was a different toll on my body because you know, you're not mentoring backwards. But from mindless standpoint, I was able to get into that zone where it was mindless where I didn't have to think about how to run backwards. I just Rian backwards just joined a running club. She perfected a technique for following that minimize damage in in two thousand fourteen she ran her first backwards half-marathon. Her brother went with her to make sure she didn't run into anything in two thousand fifteen running with her brother sister and future husband, Dustin. She finished the half marathon in two hours and forty six minutes. It was more than an hour and fifteen minutes slower than our best forward time, but it gave her the Guinness world record for fastest backwards half marathon, then in two thousand seventeen six. Years since she dropped out of Boston. Justin entered the New York City marathon, she was raising money for Parkinson's research running forward to Steen at once finished New York in three hours and sixteen minutes running backwards. It took her six hours and six minutes. Which was probably the hardest thing I've ever done my life. Just seen explains that going backwards you land on your four feet over and over again, and after hours of running she says it felt like she had no more flash on the balls for feet. Today just seem is an engineer and project manager she's able to walk forward comfortably. Now. She's not sure if to run another marathon, but she plans to keep on running backwards. I find it to be more rewarding than I did fronting forward in a different kind of rewarding not rewarding. Like, I'm gonna break this time, or I may come in this place, a major group, but but more rewarding like holy crap. I just ran eleven miles backwards like like, that's cool. Do you think you would be where you are? Now, still roaming if it hadn't been for seeing what your father went through. No, I don't I think if I think seeing my dad go through what he went through. Has made me want to continue my running and the backwards part is just the way do it in. What do you think? He would think in say about what you're doing. Now. My dad was a very funny guy, very sweet guy in very funny guy. And I think he'd get a kick out of me running backwards. I'm sure he'd have some ideas of shirts, I should wear or something. But my dad was always happy for me. Always proud of me. Not that it really matters. Justin loss that Guinness record a couple years ago. But don't worry. She may have just said it again last weekend with a backwards half. Marathon time of two hours, nineteen minutes in forty five seconds, the Guinness people still have to certify it. That's only a games Martin Kessler. Only a game is produced by Martin Kessler. Gary Wallich with help from Nico. Amac and Matthew stock. Our technical director is marquees Neil. Our senior producer is me. I'm Karen given only a game returns next week. Thanks for listening.

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Nike's Vaporfly Is 'Magic.' But Is It Fair?

The Journal.

21:36 min | 9 months ago

Nike's Vaporfly Is 'Magic.' But Is It Fair?

"This episode of the Journal is brought to you by better for it. A new podcast from ADP in each episode Francesco Ramsey talks to business leaders about the mistakes. They've made in their careers. How they got through them and came out better for it. Listen on spotify or wherever. You get your podcasts in. You're in the fall of twenty nineteen all is in the running world. We're on a marathon Vienna but only one person was running in the race. This was a closed track in Vienna. The pavement was pristine swept of all debris no leaves or anything and the was a world. Class MARATHONER ill. You'd keep Shoghi a great Kenyan marathoner. Our colleague. Rachel Bachman covers sports and he ran with a pace car with a squad of pacesetters running in front of him. In sort of aerodynamic formation the sport this Shoghi was running in that pristine track Vienna surrounded by PACESETTERS with one goal in mind. This was an attempt to bring the two hour barrier in marathon now with three hundred meters. Doron to our barrier. Marathon is sort of athletic white whale. Right it's this. Mark that a lot of people have thought was impossible to break and that's one reason why some people wanted to try to chase it down and break it barrier once. He finished the marathon in one hour. Fifty nine minutes forty seconds so even at a little time to spare centers. How did Eliot Keep Shoghi break? What seemed like an impossible barrier in running he was an accomplished Olympian. He'd been training for months. He had a team of Pacers but what many people thought was a key to his success was something. He was wearing his shoes. Kip trophy is wearing these. Very distinctive. Think sold white Nike shoes Once he broke that barrier. I think a Lotta people said this is confirmation that hey these shoes are making a difference. What was great for? Nike was very disruptive to the rest of the world of running today on this show the Nike shoes. That's changed running and the battle. It set off over the future of this sport. Welcome to the Journal. Our show about money. Business and power. I'm Kayla I'm Ryan Knutson. It's Thursday February thirteenth. That incredible athletic feet in Vienna was the culmination of a Nike Project. Called breaking to Nike was working to break the two hour. Marathon barrier and the company's line of shoes known as the vapor fly was one of the ways. They thought they could help make that happen. Nike clearly portal lot of time and energy and resources into designing a shoe. That could help get a runner across the line unless the two hours you know. They never released a budget. But I'm guessing that with Nike's resources and its interest in track and field. The people working on it probably had pretty much carte blanche to do what they needed to do. This wasn't Nike's first time obsessing over competitive running. Running shoes have been a core part of the company's DNA ever since its founding. The company that became Nike started in nineteen sixty four in Eugene Oregon. It was started by University of Oregon track coach. Bill Bauer men and one of his runners meyler named Phil Knight. Bauer men though was the tinkerer and he liked to make shoes lighter and better and faster one of his early experiments and probably the most famous was pouring a melted rubbery material like polyurethane into a waffle iron. I mean like a Sunday Brunch waffle iron and at the time track shoes were fairly flat so these rubbery knobs that stuck out from the soul were new. There were quite innovative. And that experiment turned into the WAFFLE trainer. Shoe which Nike launched in nineteen seventy four back then in the nineteen seventies. Nike was a scrappy upstart taking on industry dominated by huge corporations like Adidas but the timing of Nikes waffle. Iron Shoe couldn't have been better around the United States. Recreational running was beginning to take off American Frank. Shorter won the nineteen seventy two Olympic marathon. And that really launched the running boom in America. There were a lot of other brands at the time. But you know Nike was American. It was growing fast and it really came to epitomize this running. Boom that was taking over. The country and Nike continued to grow. It landed sponsorship deals with a conic runners like Steve Prefontaine and Eugene. Oregon became a major hub for competitive running. Meanwhile the company continued to pour money into its running shoes with more sophisticated experiments in the waffle iron today at Nike. We developed one of the most sophisticated sport research labs in the world to let us usually came out of those labs. We're just incremental improvements like more supportive souls are more lightweight materials but in its marketing. Nike's still promise that their shoes could transform you into a better athlete. Making Tuesday actually help athletes to run faster for decades. These promises of running faster didn't actually make much difference for elite runners but that changed in two thousand sixteen when Nike which by this point is a massive company debuted a new shoe the Vapor. It first emerged at the two thousand sixteen. Us Olympic Marathon. Trials only didn't have a name there was no nouncement or anything Nike sponsored athletes. Like chalene. Flanagan were just wearing them. And you see a pattern emerged that bunch toward the top of the finishers increasingly of these major marathons are runners wearing. Nike is vapor flies solidified. Its status as a revolutionary shoe in October of Twenty nineteen. That's when Kip. Shoghi broke the two hour marathon mark while wearing a second generation prototype of ABOR fly called Alpha Flying. And then that same weekend. Another runner also wearing vapor flies broke a different marathon record bridget. Kosgei WHO's a Kenyan? Marathoner actually broke the women's world record that had stood for sixteen years so the fact that it could fall was really a leap forward and sort of the one two punch of this really woke people up to the fact that there was no doubt these. Jews were absolutely making a difference in each time. Another Athlete One race wearing vapor flies. The conversation around the shoes got louder. Nike eventually started selling them to the public and everyone from elite marathoners too casual runners got to see the power of the shoes themselves. Tell me about this shoe. What does it look like? It has a swooping thick but lightweight foam mid-sole so piece it looks like a Chunky soul and within that is what Nike calls a carbon infused launch pad. That is as a full lane. Carbon-fiber plate under the foot that it says quote provides a repulsive sensation to help push the pace it compresses and then snaps back and foam and carbon fiber plate. Work together to sort of spring. The runner off the ground so basically allow runners to expend less energy to go the same distance. I've heard people describe them as magic. I've heard some say that you feel like you're kind of your heels are coming off the ground that there really is nothing like them. It kinda reminds me of that movie flubber. I don't I don't know this certain seeing. I don't think I saw that movie. It's a Disney movie. Where there's like this little gooky stuff that you can put on your shoes put on the basketball team makes you bounce? Really high it on their shoes in the bathroom and they're dunking over everybody. Yeah I mean this. I guess you could say this is not unlike the flubber of distance running back magical flubber light results is something you often see in sneaker ads. Run faster jump higher boost your performance most of us understand that just marketing with vapor flies. Though runner started to wonder whether this magic was real and it was real then was also cheating. That's after the break. This episode of the Journal is brought to you by better for a podcast from. Adp hosted by Francesco Ramsey. Better for it looks at how successful business leaders have been shaped by the mistakes. They've made like a CEO who tackles failure head on. That's a big part of who I am is always looking at failure and saying here's the gift I got from that failure. You'll hear how visionaries got through their mistakes and came out better for it. Listen on spotify or wherever. You get your podcasts Welcome back as more runners wearing Nike vapor FIS appeared on winner's podiums. It raised questions about just how much of an advantage these shoes gave record-breaking runners like Elliott Shoghi and Bridget Kosgey according to sample analysis of about fifteen thousand Strada athletes and. This is an APP that lets you. Track athletic endeavors like cycling and running the runners who ran in the five world major marathons in two thousand nineteen who were the latest vapor fly model posted the fastest median finishing time about three hours. Five minutes and thirty five seconds which is pretty fast. Marathon time and the people just behind that cohort of runners or wearing a different kind of vapor fly shoes and there's been sort of a wave of academic studies in the last year or two that have found that there is an advantage and it ranges depending on which study you look at but it's basically a few percent of sort of energy economy or a few percent faster times with these shoes and you know that is an enormous advantage but not all runners could benefit from that enormous advantage others. You companies like adidas soccer any new balance. We're far behind Nike in this type of shoe technology so for professional runners sponsored by these other companies the vapor fly put them in a tough spot running is not like playing in the NBA or NFL. Where you have a salary. Runners really have to set their own contracts to find sponsors they have to run races and win money and and sponsors really crucial part of their annual income and so for elite runners who were not sponsored by Nike. The fact that Nike has something that seems to be. An advantage is a source of growing frustration. Because if your sponsor by another company you have to wear that companies shoes and it's looking increasingly like other companies shoes are not keeping up and so they can't just say sorry. I'm GONNA wear the Nike favor flies because socials are going to make you run faster. No they can't In fact if that does happen it would be quite a story. I did talk to one person in the sport who said that he had heard of her. Lower level runner actually turned down a sponsorship from another company just to be able to wear Nike Vapor flies in races. Because as runner thought that she would be at a competitive disadvantage. If she didn't do that there are examples of runners who say that. Not having the shoes cost them. Races caricature finished fourth in the US Olympic Marathon. Trials in two thousand sixteen out for enfolds ups forty three seconds tracks and suffering. Real hesitancy to sprite. She was not wearing nikes and two of the women have finished ahead of her. Were they were wearing? Prototypes became vapor flies. There's your US Olympic team or real in the women's marathon and so in hindsight. She says she's very frustrated that these women were able to wear the shoe and she thinks that not being able to wear. That shoe probably cost her a spot on the. Us Olympic Marathon team in two thousand sixteen. Many runners have called on the sport of runnings Governing Body and institution known as World Athletics to look into whether the vapor fly shoes were breaking the rules with the two thousand twenty summer Olympics in Tokyo on the horizon sponsors and runners were anxious to know whether the shoes would be allowed the world. Athletics rules on footwear left a lot of room for interpretation. They said that shoes couldn't give runners quote any unfair assistance or advantage and Nike had said that the proposal soul of the vapor fly was only harnessing the effort exerted by the runner. Not Giving any kind of unfair boost. A Nike spokeswoman said we respect world athletics and the spirit of their rules and we do not create any running shoes that return more energy than the runner expense. But is that in line with how? Nike's marketing the shoe. Well Nike's marketing. It calls this a launch pad that does not sound like something that is not designed to be a performance aid when you're talking about an athletic pursuit so officials at world left that X. under great pressure to make up their minds to decide you know. Is this shoe legal? Should it be legal? And if it's not then tell us where to go from here you know. How are we going to regulate choose in a world where there's clearly one that is conferring an advantage on some people and not others in January world? Athletics finally handed down its decision on the vapor flies. It ruled that the shoes were eligible for competition but world. Athletics also drew a line. They instituted a limit on Schuessel thickness. And what exactly could go inside? So what they essentially did was grandfather in the vapor flies the current vapor flies that are available. But it's limits on sort of further evolution of that so for instance. One carbon-fiber plate is okay but multiple carbon-fiber fiber plates on different planes in. The SHOE ARE NOT OKAY. A thick soles. Okay but more than forty millimeters thick is too thick interesting so it sounds like the almost drew the line just on the other side of the favor flies. So like the vapor FIS as far as we're GonNa let shoe innovation go. Yes that's essentially what they said. I think this issue in particular says something about Nike's influence in a sport that you know here. We are several years beyond when this prototype first emerged and started raising eyebrows. And it's taken that long to get new regulations and even those regulations really essentially allow Nike to keep its advantage in the marketplace. At least in the time being and that's great for Nike but I think other companies are very frustrated. That this examination didn't have much sooner for these other companies. The decision from world athletics. They had to scramble to get ready for the Summer Olympics. While Nike's been perfecting its Vapor pfeiffer years competitors have only a few months to catch up what we have now is sort of an in progress arms race that is with us for the time being companies have been prototyping their answers to the vapor fly like sucking and it really comes down to two key items in the shoe. One is a thicker stack of cushioning and we engineer with carbon-fiber plate that sandwiched between a new balance. Phys two key elements that we want to talk about. One is multi directional carbon plate. And the other is the new fuel cell high rebound material so hurt of new rules. Say That any shoe used in the Olympics. Can't just be a prototype. Though it has to be available to consumers the thinking was that it's more fair if everybody has a chance to buy it so the question is whether companies like sock any new balance will be able to get their vapor fly competitors in stores soon enough and he showed that an elite runner uses competition has to have been available at retail for four months and so essentially what that means is if a runner wants to use a certain shoe in the Olympics in August then by April thirtieth. That shoe has to be available at retail companies are going to be able to meet that deadline. It really is quite a design challenge for these companies as we know in manufacturing they're all kinds of delays and glitches and there's the supply chain issues and so suddenly timing becomes very critical for companies. Who Want to feature their top shoe in the Olympics? Several of them have said they can make it. But it's yet to be seen whether they will be as good as Nike's models and Nike is still sprinting. Stay ahead last week. It announced its next generation of the vapor fly line the L. fly is coming to market later. This month. Nike told us recently that this shoe will barely squeak under the new rules issued by world athletics. So we'll be legal for competition but Nike so far ahead of everybody. I mean the other companies are still trying to make the shoe itself and Nike is adjusting. Its second generation. That's true Nike really has a years long head start and that is really what is sending panic and stress. Among competitors trials for the Olympics will be held later this month in the US. The top three women in the top. Three men will qualify. And then they'll raise for gold at the Olympics in Tokyo in August but this year the shoes may command more attention than the runners wearing them. Raises these fascinating questions about you. Know COMPANIES PUSH INNOVATION. And at. What point does that innovation cross into the threshold of fairness and being unfair? That really is the debate. We're having right now. Some people say hey. You're not following the rules. But you know some people in other side say hey. This is America. Capitalism at its finest Nike invested and worked hard and figured out how to build a better mousetrap. And it's exceeded and it's achieving all these great results in road racing and that should be celebrated. What does that mean for running then because you used to see people winning in all kinds of shoes even barefoot but now like you ever going to see a winner not wearing a shoe that has this technology and even if it's the Nike or some other competitor comes along. I think you're right Ryan. I think people are going to be wearing the most technologically advanced shoe. They can possibly wear. Because that is where the technology in this race has propelled us. And so some people have lamented the loss of this. Very elemental sport where shoes frankly really did not make a difference but now we're talking about shaving percentages off a marathon time two plus hour marathon time. That is such a significant difference. We're never going back. That's offered today. Thursday February thirteenth additional reporting and today's episode from Lane Higgins and codija software. The Journal is a CO production of Gimblett and the Wall Street Journal. Thanks for listening sue tomorrow.

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Running With A Donkey, Lessons From Rowing, #SaveTheCrew

Only A Game

48:05 min | 1 year ago

Running With A Donkey, Lessons From Rowing, #SaveTheCrew

"This is only a game. I'm Karen Gibbon. It was second semester of his sophomore off more year at Penn State and Z.. Cook was in trouble. He was home from school. Not By choice. I decided that it would probably be in my best interest to try to you. Know at exercised. This is my life so I started running and I was reading born to run for some form of inspiration. Born to run is Christopher McDougall's two thousand nine bestselling book cook that fueled the barefoot running craze and Chris McDougall just so happens to be Zeke's neighbor an old family friend Zeke's mom Andrea left a message. Explaining that Zeke was spending a semester away from school and would crispy willing to take him for a run and you have to understand what what the cook families like. They don't rattle so to get a phone call and here. The Zeke is home from college is suddenly like alarm bells are going off like this does has not happened the cook family. Chris is a big believer in movement as medicine so he figured whatever troubles Zeke was in running would probably help help. But before talking to Zeke he needed to get Andrea on the phone for some Intel. Bigger the phone call. I thought I was calling her cell phone number number and actually got the home number. Zeke answered the phone I was like hey man I was interested in going for Ron. I'm home from school and Chris kind of said. Yeah we should do run tomorrow. You available tomorrow. Oh and he's like. Yeah but I'll tell you tomorrow. See Him fight him for run. But you don't tell them it there's GonNa be a donkey involved. Would you tell them no way. The donkey's name is Sherman. What advice did you give him when you handed him? Sherman's lead stat along the fire. Buddy downplayed I said. Let's just go out. How Fun Washes Washes backhoes? Defense mechanism is to kick it. Let's just see what happens Chris still didn't know what was going on with Zeke but the run. That day wasn't only about taking care of seek. It was also about taking care of Sherman. Sherman came to live with Chris and his family in the fall of two thousand. Fifteen is fully my daughter soapies fault. She was nine years old and I made a crucial mistake of asking her what she wanted for her birthday. And the answer was a donkey. The McDougals live in Lancaster. County Pennsylvania Amish country and at that moment another neighbor was trying to rescue at. Don't don't from a hoarder we. I saw him locked in his stall in the darkness so we knew he was in bad shape but we didn't realize how bad it was until the next day a when our neighbor was able to pry this donkey away from the horror. Bring into our home. We saw in daily for the first time. The donkey's hooves were were so overgrown and deformed he couldn't walk if donkeys can't walk the hint survive they need to move to digest their food and pass through their digestive track. Chris has called Tanya a local Battiston and her husband Scott an amateur farrier that someone who takes care of an animal's hooves. I'm going to stay panicked like I. I have my daughter's tenth birthday gift which is about to die in excruciating. Death in front of her is Kenya. Help and our answer is don't worry about it. Donkeys tough. We've seen it all no problem. They can over the next day they take a look at this donkin ago. We never seen this before. Scott used a hacksaw cut through the donkey's hooves and then clipped clipped and filed them into shape when it was all over. The donkey should've walked away but he didn't. He was standing there Glassy glassy-eyed immobile. Shell shot as Scott's looking at him saying it may be too late. If he doesn't move he's GonNa die. It might be better to put him down right now. But Scott's wife Tanya wasn't ready to give up Tanya blazed in she was just like a white ball of avenging thunder. She was so furious at what this hoarder had done. Tanya injected the donkey by this point Chris Daughter had named him Sherman with antibiotics and painkillers and started cheering off for that had become matted with filth as she worked she was already looking beyond the current problem to the next one. She just turned me with us the clippers in my face and said look. You're not I just go drop manifield. He's feeling despair. He's been abandoned. You gotta give them a job. He's got to have a reason to open his eyes. Look forward to something. The only thing I can think of is like I'm not like a prospect early not a job for donkey but ten years earlier I been to Colorado to cover story for the World Championship. Pack Breweries yet the World Championship Pack Borough Race. It's held every July and fairplay Colorado participants run alongside donkey's up an over a mountain. The short course is fifteen miles. I'm scanning desperately job job job. Oh Hey Pat Breweries Chris. Chris was sure Tanya would think this was a terrible idea. She looked at me. She's like okay all right. I see this but it's going to be step. One is can this creature even put a foot on a hard surface rush by the next morning. Sherman had made a friend a goat named Lawrence Wherever Lawrence win. Sherman followed. He was finally moving but there was still the question of whether Sherman would willingly step on a hard surface. Donkeys are naturally distrustful and Sherman had never seen anything anything outside the hoarders small dark stall so. When Tonya tried to lead Sherman out to the road he stopped just short of the asphalt Tanya Tanya spent the next forty minutes locked in a battle of wills until Sherman finally sat one on the road she turns me and she goes see that as the power of a second chance? You're right or giving them a second chance she's like I'm not talking to him talking to you. Why do you think he would ever trust a human humans? Humans have made his life nothing but miserable. He's giving you a second chance buddy. You better live up to it. Chris and Tanya had less than a year to get Sherman shape for the world championship. Pack Borough Race but they soon realized that he wouldn't go anywhere without a friend so Tanya brought over her big writing donkey flower. Tanya would ride flower Chris would follow behind. Running with Sherman. Flower was fast but she was afraid of everything cows. How's puddles the color yellow so we had a triple down and bringing in a third donkey and then my poor wife? Mika who was not down any as plan cell he gets recruited the third donkey runner. By this time it was Thanksgiving and Tanya was facing trouble at home she could no longer join Chris and Mika for their daily runs and without a third handler. The donkey trio was stalled. So when Zeke cooks mom called to see if Chris would be willing willing to take her son for a run Chris thought he might have found a solution to his problem. But he still didn't know why Zeke was home and he knew handling appaling. Sherman wouldn't be easy. We're early in the process where you know if we could go quarter mile. That was huge as a quarter mile of him twisting intern in an endless. Like mind game. That's what I was. Thrown his porchet into so. When did you finally learn what Zeke was up against? It was Tony and Chris Pushes back from from the microphone and looks away and for the next thirty seconds. He doesn't say anything longest pausing radio history. All right yeah really thinking about it. So He's told me and he was very matter of fact about it. Zeke is still matter of fact about it. I had actually been kind of going through a seriously depressive episode in my life where I had essentially tended to commit suicide Zeke had been hospitalized. He was allowed to return home under the condition that he attend regular therapy sessions and work with doctors to find the right mix of medications. And when Zeke's mom asked Chris for help she hadn't breathe easy and weeks to pressure man. I hate that word. Because it's such a misconception of what this thing is it's not being depressed. It is being stricken by a life threatening illness and if he can hit back you man you know. This kid's got everything everything going for him. So if the tacking brain can get anybody zeke wanting to get back to his friends and to his studies at Penn State. But he knew he wouldn't be able tail until he was no longer a danger himself. It became pretty apparent to me that simply taking a few antidepressants and not making wholesale lifestyle. Changes that would not be enough for me to be healthy at school so for me it was more about kind of trying to rebalance some but my wiring so exercise was the first step for me and then beyond that it was nutrition and then I guess donkeys because as it turns turns out by handing Zeke Sherman's lead that day. Chris had tapped into something ancient and often overlooked the connection between humans and animals. I mean there's a reason why right now. You pet a cat and purrs you feel really good. Is that because it's cute. It's because ancestrally if you had a wild feline line and that creature with far better auditory sense and night vision and and sense of smell realize that there's danger in the perimeter that gives you an indication like you can relax now. You bring a dog into a cancer ward and requirement for pain. Medication cuts in half anxiety stress levels drop in have. Chris didn't didn't plan to partner. Zeke the fastest runner and least experienced donkey handler with the slowest and hardest to handle donkey. But he says Zeke and Sherman goes each other right from that I run. We stopped it for quarter-mile assessing how's everyone doing and Sherman's leaning his head against Zeke's leg. They were just brothers. That moment Zeke the kid fighting depression and Sherman. The donkey with abandonment issues soon started realize that they could help each other theon with depression. It's Malays that kind of makes it very difficult for you to look beyond the the immediate problems. It's almost like you're in a perpetual state of panic. You feel kind of afraid all the time you feel trapped. I guess and and so when you're dealing with an animal that that has needs that they can't articulate it. Gets you outside of your own brain soon. Zeke was showing up every day to get outside of his own brain with Sherman. I remember one more cold and Wet and You know what let's just call us bag today and we're looking at the drive like half an hour early do what he don't hear well. I realized early on that you'd be relying me for consistency and punctuality. I think that was it. And then he felt his job. or It'd be like kind of team captain here. And he's getting the exercise the contact and the sense of need quick like we needed him. It was kind of the Rock around which I rebuilt my life. Zeke's started to feel better. So did Sherman I had. This is such a vivid memory of of of seeing Sherman. Ears in the air main flop and back and forth whole-body Jiggling along different animal entirely early from the animal we brought the animal we brought was dead. Glassy eyed slumped over head down and suddenly like frisking along a little the show. Pony in a parade and Zeke always in contact like his hip a brushing Sherman side four years or softer coming to live with the McDougals. Sherman is happy and healthy. He still lives at the McDougals farm but now his running buddies flour and Matilda live there to Zeke visits Sherman. Whenever he's home he I would say is more sociable? He's much I'd say. More inherently trusting of people people. I think I may gave Sherman some sense of peace. And what did she do for you. It's Sherman is a big part of the reason why I was able to go back to school and graduate. You know when I when I got back to school. It was like I trained the dog I can. I can do this and do anything. Zeke Cook is currently taking a gap year between UNDERGRAD and Grad School. Christopher McDougall's new book running with Sherman chronicles the three runners three donkey teams attempt at the Two Thousand Sixteen World Championship Pat Burrow race. But that's a story for another day. Not long ago Bethany Erickson Erickson was out of sorts. A friend recommended. She tried rowing. I'd never rode it sounded intimidating but the website suggested that rowing could change lives. Sign me up. I said that's coming up on only a game from. NPR News News breaks and big stories change every day. That's why we're giving you. NPR's ten minute morning. News podcast on Saturdays to I'm Scott Simon and I'm Lou Garcia Navarro up first. Start Your Day with us. Weekdays at six eastern and Saturdays at eight a bit later to suit your weekend from NPR. News I'm Karen Given it's time for three stories. You should know second ear Baltimore Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson stole the show during last Sunday's victory over the Patriots. And that's where we're going to start this week I'm joined by the Wall Street. Journal's those Rachel Bachman and by Professor Kenneth Shropshire CEO of the Global Sport Institute at Arizona State University. Welcome back to both of you. Thanks so much Karen Karen. Thanks Karen could it be all right. Can't take away. Your I mentioned is is really. What's been focused on this week? This whole Lamar Jackson. Tom Brady moment and bigger than that. Where are we in terms of the black quarterback? Many people pointed out. This is the fiftieth anniversary of James Shack Harris being drafted into the national football league in nineteen sixty nine and he became the first prominent black quarterback in the national football league. And you know what does it mean. Where are we now and you think about? When Lamar Jackson was drafted? Some of the same conversations. Were taking place back then. Were taking place with dual threat quarterback not so much the race issue as it was back then but all the coded language there so to see Jackson beat the goat. Tom Brady kind of brought it all to a head and gave. There's another moment to reflect on what it means but also the conversation that's still taking place about athleticism versus thinking quarterback or just a great quarterback without all all the qualifiers that come into play if James Shack Harris was Kinda Onepointoh and we had a period of time where it was two point zero. Where there's there's just weren't that many now this season? We have the largest number of black quarterbacks that we've had since two thousand thirteen were tied for that number. Are we in kind of a a a three point zero moment. And how do we get a four point. Oh where we don't have a conversation at all or we can have the Jackson versus Brady bill the dual and it is just these two great quarterbacks and look at these two different styles and not to get much further than that Rachel well I. I don't think we're quite beyond this issue yet unfortunately I think that's because there's a larger issue in the NFL with a lack of representation among all levels of leadership. I think only two head coaches changes in the NFL. This year are African American which is continually shocking. I often think in the context of this conversation about Warren Moon. Who of course was not drafted rafted but ends up in the pro football hall of fame and this is not ancient history? He played in the year. Two thousand. I think that we still are in a place where you know. Progress is not linear. It's not always just up and up and up and better and I hope Ken to your point that that this is a two point. Zero three point zero in terms of Y quarterbacks and that will continue to see progress because they're not totally representative of the makeup of the league and they should be so before the two thousand eighteen in draft bill polian. He's a hall of fame. GM suggested that Lamar Jackson would be better off as a wide receiver and Polian just didn't think Jackson had the size to be quarterback because he six three to eleven and everyone knows the ideal quarterback is at least six four to twenty. I mean come on. That's that's crazy and one of the really cool things that happened this week is that Polian came out and said I was wrong and I always think of this the NFL. Oh really obsesses over these little differences in height in weight and I think sometimes those distinctions are just an excuse for the distinctions that nobody nobody wants to say out loud and I think it's great that this is changing. Lamar Jackson has six hundred. Thirty seven yards rushing through the first eight games of the season. Tom Brady has rushed for just over a thousand yards in his entire career. This is his twentieth season. But I I was reading Lonzo Neal's piece in the undefeated and she quotes a historian. Who says of black quarterbacks they are the next generation of civil rights workers because in some ways they're are risking their bodies to change a country and I think about all the damage done by rushing and that quote just really punches me in the stomach? I read that quote as well and I think about that kind of analogy. You know in in the same Pantheon as you know Bill Rhoden with forty million dollar slaves kind of analogy. I it distracts me is a little bit too far to take it. You Know Rachel setup of this very important in terms of how these things change and and what we can't forget is Ozzie. newsome African American man one of the few African American general managers was in the draft room when Lamar Jackson was drafted. So it is. It's just like corporate America just like the rest of the world the more inclusive and diversities rooms are the easier it will be me to make decisions based on merit without any reference or any lingering thoughts of whatever someone's personal bias may be. That sounds like a good thing so on Monday. The athletic dropped a report suggesting that the LA chargers formerly of San Diego were considering a move to London to be. The report only said that the chargers quote would would at least listen if the NFL approached them about London. Now since the report dropped chargers owner Dean Spanos has fired back with the following rebuttal. It's total this is our home and this is where we are planning to be for a long time period. He might be just protesting a bit too much there despite the protests stations and the NFL has denied the report to. I think the chargers in London even sounds like a pretty good idea. I mean this two teams in. La Thing is a failed experiment and London has got to be better than selling ninety percent of your your tickets to fans for the away team can am I right on this one. Well you're right about the idea of of how we're going to make a league global There's a famous story. Worry that one of the leagues that were playing overseas early on that the fans were kind of watching you know mundanely as as such being scored and then somebody kicked feel bill and they went crazy the idea I think it was Barcelona ideal seeing a great kick. But I think we're beyond that and I think the success of the various leagues have PAT in. London does bode well for that as a possibility. I still you know as we've looked at this over the years it's still a problem of travel. It's maybe if you get a team that's also in Paris. You'll maybe that's when it happens. But in terms of revenues can we put the chargers back in San Diego. I'm flat for it. Rachel Yeah I was GonNa say this is not a charters problem. This isn't La football problem. You know the rams have had problems with attendants it's tough at big urban areas somewhat somewhat ironically in California to draw to football games and this is a longstanding problem. I mean asked. USC AND UCLA Los Angelenos Bay are basically like you know. Show me the record before. They're they're willing to show up and watch games in person. I have a lot of family in southern California and it's also there are just generations of football all fans in southern California who are not fans of a team. They're fans of particular players. They don't have the same affiliation when it comes to the teams all right Rachel. It's your turn okay. Well last week New Jersey vast media reported on some troubling tactics by the softball coaches at Rutgers Rutgers in one instance from the story after rutgers players went six dollars over their food travel budget on a road trip. There were told her on. Six hundred yard sprints each each in less than seventeen seconds some players were left. Crying doubled over and exhaustion. One player said she blacked out this week. The Drake Group A longtime critic of college sports called for something interesting. And they called for a prohibition of physical punishment of athletes and they weren't talking about physical abuse but using exercise is as punishment and the group actually drew a dotted line between the amped up workouts in the heat that preceded the death last year of Maryland. Football player and post is practice. Sprints that coaches uses a penance pretty routinely experts say that using exercises punishment at best teaches. You know younger people to hate exercise and at worst puts them in physical danger so I think a lot of us probably happening question this practice. But what what do you to think of this. Is this something thing. We should really consider banning exercises punishment. The so often allows me to bring up my sorted sports history. But I am a pre water break athlete of the Seventies. I'd never reflected on it in that way. I tend to try to stay in shape but I do have an attitude about exercise exercise and I. I wonder how much that really is something to be concerned about. The idea of running wind sprints or doing something that gives you a mama overthrew flecked is is meaningful but certainly in the examples of players die and that sort of thing. That's an extreme. I know there are people at home. Who are like Mike? Hey My high school coach made me run. Wind sprints if it was good enough for me. It's good enough for those kids today but you know like when I was in high school I read around in the back of a pickup truck. Didn't kill me but I'm not gonNa say it was a good idea right like we've learned that said this. It came up this week because of that report about the rutgers softball team bright and if the report is to be believed and I'm not at all questioning it. Let the women on this team were being flat out abused by their coaches. And the fact that those coaches used exercise as punishment seems to me to just be a symptom symptom of that abuse. So isn't it possible to use exercise as punishment for good and not for evil. That's a great question. I don't know the answer answer to that. I think in in the modern sort of age of sports where teams have nutritionists and they're measuring vitamin D levels and they had these very precisely prescribed workouts Out so you don't run too much or lift too little. You know it strikes me as just counterproductive to have a plan practice and then just tack on. All these sprints sprints that is going to affect an athlete's recovery maybe his or her sleep all these other things. Yeah when you think about it back in my day. When the coach coach gave wind sprints it might have been part of the plan the whole time? Maybe they're just waiting for you to mess up my guest. For this week's exhibition of three stories you should know have been the Wall Street. Journal's Rachel Bachman and Professor Kenneth Shropshire CEO The Global Sport Institute at Arizona State University. Steve thanks to both of you. Thank you thanks. Bethany Ericsson is arowar. But she wasn't always here's Bethany when I turned fifty. A friend invited me to an indoor rowing studio in Brookline Massachusetts. I I figured. She thought of me as the avid outdoorsy mountain climber I used to be and had not noticed the beyond her social media view I totally fallen out of shape and then out of sorts sorts. In retrospect my friend is a therapist and may have known exactly what she was doing. I'd never rode it. Sounded intimidating. Getting up sounded intimidating lately but the website suggested that rowing could change lives. Sign me up. I said I was slow but I didn't know it yet and I thrived in the tough love environment. Take as long as you need to rest. My trainer likes to yell. You have ten seconds seconds. Another five seconds the studios cozy with wooden beams women's march posters and chalkboard notices for challenges that support local charities. Okay turn it up now. This is a full power workout. My trainer is the owner a muscle giant with an infectious smile L. named Bryan Fuller. He believes in giving back he served in the army and then got an MBA in a series of unsatisfying financial jobs. He felt dangerously singer Asli low one day. He tried a rowing machine at the gym and it clicked for him soon after he saw signed for a community rowing program for veterans joining a team of vets on the Charles River. He finally discovered the support and validation he'd been lacking now. He aims to share. Not only his love of rowing but also that important sense of community three minutes. Your favorite. Brian Pushes everyone with military volume human drive but then quietly hand someone who's coughing a lozenge loans and other a book for their kid. Her tells a goofy joke. When someone's struggling? He watches his clients rowing for him carefully stays with new members as they learn and looks out for everyone's health in general. Don't forget it's the farmer's market today Tomato tomato season with with proper form. Indoor rowing uses about eighty six percent of your muscles a couple Munson I could feel about eighty four percent of them. Most of the day and other issue stored in my body began working themselves out one day. I froze when a man came into the studio looking exactly like my late hiking partner. I had whispered see you down the trail as he lay dying years ago. But knowing Brian was a veteran helped give me the courage to face my ghosts ghosts and move forward and the exercise was helping me sleep better. I tried to come in no matter what I felt like. I told myself I could suck if I needed to. I just I had to show up Brian. I reminded myself was the same age around the same time. I became notorious in the rowing studio for actually rowing right out of my sneakers I learned the Brian was notorious for more than being tough but kinda trainer a year after he started rowing in that veterans program. He became one one of the few Americans to have rowed across the Atlantic. And he's planning to do it again. I started leasing on my sneakers more carefully. It's not as hard as you think. He said offhandedly about that row. But I'm not fooled. I am a better door than athlete so I immediately read five books by people who had wrote oceans and a couple about being lost at sea for good measure. One woman had survived being pitched polled. Let's flipping bow over stern in her boat in hurricane. I asked him more about his experiences. He he admitted it was hard at first but the connecting with others kept him afloat. Thanks to a satellite phone. Once he got into the groove of it. He'd spent his time in the seat composing children's Story Lori in his head about an animal finding her purpose and when he returned he opened a rowing studio. He told me I actually had had the right personality for a row across the ocean. I found it harder to find excuses not to come in after that two hours of sleep while it wasn't like I was rowing the whole ocean in after all but now also had this glimmer that if I wanted to cross the Atlantic I could I want you to know something about the atmosphere of Brian. Studio speaks to his knowledge of life being short and sometimes stormy and of now being the right time for connection an imagination and action. So I keep showing up no matter what's happening in my life or body. No more treading water you. Perhaps rowing really can change lives. That's Bethany Eriksson. She's a writer and artist from Cambridge. Massachusetts Bryan Fuller is planning another Atlantic crossing nearly a decade. After his first in two thousand seventeen Columbus crew fans rallied to save the crew brought together an international community of concerned soccer fans. I would say that we're the most successful grassroots movement in the history of American sports that's coming up and remember you can follow follow us on facebook and twitter at only a game NPR. I'm Karen Given next next week on only a game. The Kid reporter who hopes to soon be in locker rooms everywhere but now Charlie Pierce is here with the week's news. Hi Charlie care so the. La Lake Clippers SAT Kawhi Leonard twice in the first eight games of the season. I the Internet lost its mind than the NBA. said it's okay. He's injured then. Coach Doc rivers told reporters Leonard was feeling great than the League. Fine the clips. Have I got this about right except you left out the most important thing which is the fact that we have a new entry in NBA jargon which which is load management says like something that ought to involve like dump trucks and gravel. Yeah I mean the NBA back. Tobacco are tough so they have a load management situation with him. They just nobody knows how to talk about it publicly yet. It's not supposed to happen right. I mean it's sort of like bastard stepchild of tanking but basically what you're doing is you're trying to make your team better in the long run by resting valuable players. But you're charging and I don't even want to guess how much ticket and you gotTa have a convincing lie and no one has one yet. I mean it is only the third week of the season. We have many more months of this kind of drama. I think so I mean it's until they find a solution for this in. I couldn't begin to tell you what one might be spontaneously cutting ticket prices. Because you know the visiting star isn't gonNA play doesn't sound feasible to me. Yeah this is GonNa well it certainly going to be a point of influence influence for the League. You'RE GONNA look around for examples of this now. Yeah can we talk about the Chicago. They've lost four in a row currently twelve in the NFC in last week's game against the Eagles they had just nine net yards in the first half nine. What is going on with the bears? They really stink here and there are bad football team. They built their team. They built up a defense. That defense is still really good by the way but their offense is the petrified forest. The Mitchell trubisky experience has not gone well for them. I suspect we'll talk about him. But there's just not that good on offense and eventually teams built that way. I mean unless they the Baltimore Ravens Ravens of a few years ago teams that are built that way breakdown and those ravens by the way had a running game. The bears don't have one of those either well as you say. The team is so bad that quarterback Mitchell trubisky wants all the televisions inside Halas Hall. That's the bears headquarters. Yes and training facility turned off. He says news reports are bad for team morale as he ever heard of newspapers or the Internet will not only that but but you know what else is bad for team morale losing every week. That's bad for team morale. You got a problem she'll just turn all the TV's to like ancient aliens or something Star following the impeachment grave option. A great British bake off anything wonderful. Yeah in Australia. The men's national soccer team is called the SOCCERROOS. The women's national team is the Matilda's ask me why but in one way these two groups are now the same. And what would that be. They get paid the same. But unfortunately there's still called the Matilda's which comes of course. From the famous Song Waltzing Matilda. Oh okay. So where does soccerroos come. I'm from WHO knows kangaroo. Kangaroos I go see. I mean you never never let it be said. The Australians. Don't know how to make use of like ethno-nationalist. Cliches is South Africa's springboks. It's named after antelopes. Right good for the forty people for going all in on pay equity as you say the highest paid Mathilde will soon be paid the same as the highest paid soccer ru but when it comes to the World Cup men and women will be paid the same percentage of prize money money so the men will earn a lot more of her win than the women do whereas in their negotiations the US women want equal prize. Money for world. Cup Wins Ends are the US women asking for too much here no because the US women win they win the World Cup there massively popular they're incredibly valuable. TV ATV product so. They deserve the money that they're asking for because without them soccer would just be the US men's national team. And that's that's just not pretty good and finally Charlie. A black hat ran down the field during Monday night football. Here's the call from Kevin Harlan. And the cat is in the CDW red zone CDW people who get it now. A police state troopers come on the field. And the cat runs of the end zone touchdown but not everyone was so happy with the antics at the black cat. Right know demarcus Lawrence. A gigantic defensive in for the cowboys apparently was terrified. They got bad lock now at turned on and I said man. The game's over a black cat runs in the damn field on a Monday night football game you might want to call it quits bro. All luck is terrible. Argue with mark with the markets and I wouldn't anyway however the cat does have his own twitter page. Now Excellent Charlie. Early Pierce is the guest editor of the best American sports. Writing two thousand nineteen and he joins US each week at this time on only game. Thanks Charlie thanks Karen. ooh Ooh if you haven't heard self partnering is is in. I'm not totally sure what it means but the Internet tells me it has something to do with being committed to taking care of yourself. Well here's one tip for taking care of yourself. Subscribe to the only game podcast. That way you'll receive Rx of funny moving and surprising stories every week. Major League soccer hosts twenty four th championship game this weekend. MLS has seen teams fold like the Tampa Bay mutiny in two thousand one and teams move like the San Jose earthquakes to Houston in two thousand five but this story is about a team that stayed thinks in large part to one of the biggest grassroots movements ever in American sports. Here's here's our low more bloom. In Nineteen ninety-six. The Columbus crew was announced. As one of major league soccer's first franchises. They had already sold twelve thousand season tickets. First of all I'm from Columbus. I was born here. I was raised here. I live here. I will die here. Morgan Hughes was fourteen years old when he saw his first I crew game in one thousand nine hundred eighty six. He's been a superfan. Ever since the Columbus crew were a natural fit for me. It's my little slice of black and gold having it's it's it's my home away from home. Sometimes it feels like my first home. Morgan is a small business owner in his spare time. He meets up with his friends to make artwork for the cruise. Home Games I'm make big pieces of art. Flag to sticks giant crowd banners that are as large as ninety feet long by fifty feet wide read since one thousand nine hundred eighty six major league. Soccer has grown a lot by twenty thirteen. MLS more than doubled from ten original franchises. To twenty-one anyone much of that growth was thanks to Clark hunt the owner of the crew a member investors since the beginning Clark was one of the driving forces behind the creation nation of MLS in the first place but on August thirty first twenty thirteen. He called a press conference. Today we're officially announcing that we we have sold the team To Anthony Precourt. Who is now my pleasure to introduce? Anthony Precourt it is a hedge fund manager from San Francisco in the biggest question for the fans would an outsider keep the crew in Columbus. Precourt saw the question coming. Trust me. I've had many sleepless nights the last few months Thinking about Dreaming About Our Future Together and All you need to know that I'm very committed to Columbus and I'm here with you. Within two years of that first press conference our relationship developed between the Columbus crew in the Austin aspects a lower our division protein-based twelve hundred miles away in Texas. The crew sent reserved to train in Austin and the two teams co-hosted a preseason tournament in February of Twenty Fifteen fifteen. There wasn't really feeling that there was anything nefarious going on at the time. That's Chris bills a freelance reporter based in Austin but now looking back on it you know no that was a way for the ownership of the Columbus crew to kind of get on the ground in and see what Austin was all about a year later in September of Two Thousand Sixteen Austin Mayor Steve Adler was contacted by major league. Soccer saying that the League was studying Austin's viability as a home for an MLS franchise. The mayor. Adler was surprised at the time because there was not a expansion bid. Coming from Austin. If Austin wasn't getting an expansion team it could only mean one thing a team would have to move at some point. He was told officially that the Columbus crew was looking to move to Austin the move who've with top secret but there were signs that precourt wasn't committed to Columbus toilet. Paper was often missing and stadium. Bathrooms and concession stands would often run out of snacks ax within the first half and unbeknownst to crew fans creek or had already laid the groundwork for a move when he bought the crew. There was a clause within the contract contract. That's David Miller a crew fan who works for Columbus City Council that he wasn't allowed to move the team unless it was to Austin Texas on October sixteenth. Two Thousand Seventeen David Morgan and the rest of crew fandom found out what was going on I was sitting on the back porch at my house. And my buddy. The John Texted me and said I'm hearing bad things. I'm hearing that the the crew is going to move to Austin and I didn't I yeah. I didn't believe him. And so I tried to start reaching out to my contacts and the only ones who would respond would say. I can't say anything about it but stay tuned and sure enough. I believe it was either nine fifty pm or ten fifty pm that night. Grant Wall from sports illustrated had sent that tweet of infamy about precourt potentially moving the team to Austin and my world kind of went blank. It just kind of floating through life for that. I you know eighteen hours. It's literally our community. It's why we use that word so much. It's like saying they were going to wipe get your neighborhood off the face of the earth. The next day Morgan was walking his dog and talking to the cruise radio announcer Chris Duran they had gotten to know each other from years years of crew involvement Kris told. Morgan I wish I could do something and I realized that I had assumed that if anything was to be done about this it was going to be done by. Somebody who identified is more important than I and at that moment. I just decided that I was done. Being a victim of Anthony precourt and if there was going to be a funeral for the Columbus crew that I was going to be too tired from lashing out against it to attend it and that was the moment that saved Cruz was born in that park walking. My Dog Morgan drove to DOC's pub where crew fans had gathered to drown their sorrows. It was awake it was awake. There's literally a funeral general home next door to that bar. But Morgan didn't go to the bar decry. He went to convince crew fans to keep fighting. I sent out a tweet said if you if you think this is over. You're wrong. This is not over. Tell everyone you know Hashtag save the crew. Some crew supporters wanted to stage a protest when the team played New York City F C five days as later. Morgan thought otherwise. It's an away game. What are we gonNA show up at the stadium and burner crew jerseys? Like that's what they'd want to do then they'd have bad guys two point two who so I said we need to rally today from the grass to a grassroots campaign. Fans rallied at City Hall to save the crew in the next home game on October. Thirty First Morgan had a special plan for his game. Day Our work so there is a banner that said respect respect our roots and it was kind of our wave of telling the world that you know. Columbus is the foundation upon which this entire league is built in this country and and if you allow them to destroy us they'll come for you next. The first time that entire your stadium lit up and every human in it was chanting save. The crew was a moment that goes to the grave with me that I that I will never fully separate crate from within weeks. Fifty eight members of save the crew had organized into twelve teams who took charge of government and business relations design Zayn in brand management financing event marketing merchandising and more there were so many people that were interested in doing something. That's David Miller again. Who became the communications director for save the crew so many people who just kind of wanted to be involved for the next year Morgan David and several other leaders worked nonstop to save the crew people from the news? Saying what time are you going to be home. Can we get five minutes with you on camera it was doing interviews with the BBC World Service. And I was is planning a wedding during this is You know I was buying a house during this but every moment of every day no matter how exhausting there was only one and goal. We're going to save the crew save. The crew continued to gain momentum other MLS supporter groups wore yellow and black save the crew armbands games around on the country. We brought together an international community of concerned soccer fans Chelsea F C. That's one of the most popular soccer teams in the world. World ran an article in their game. Day Program for a match talking about our plight. We had news articles across the globe that we're talking about this because we were good good at spreading our message talking on social media being positive and really kind of set an example for communities at risk by spring of two thousand eighteen precourt was closing in on a stadium. Deal in Austin but save the crew got the attention of Hios Attorney General and because the crew stadium. Am had been built with tax dollars. He could step in attorney. General Mike DeWine filed a lawsuit against precourt sports ventures and major league soccer. Now the lawsuit soon is over your tax dollars dewine used Ohio's art modell law passed in Nineteen ninety-six after the Cleveland. Browns owner moved his team to Baltimore Baltimore and secret. Dewine hope that the lawsuit would help by city officials time to negotiate with someone else to buy the team and in October. We're of twenty eighteen. A group of civic and business leaders including team doctor he edwards and browns owner. Jimmy has LEM emerged. As buyers of the crew franchise the crew was saved. I found out on October tenth. Twenty eighteen seven fifty seven pm. It was almost exactly a year after after Morgan's sat on his back porch feeling like he wasn't a part of this world. There was about a thirty second period. There where I don't think I remember to breathe. I went inside and I sat on my living room floor and I just I just lost it. Emotionally choked on my own tears. I coughed and then I started the cycle all over again. You know laughing crying choking. The world found out two days later on Friday October twelfth fans descended on bars across Columbus in the middle of the day including dogs pub where save the crew was born in the grand scheme of things you know. A soccer team is not the most important thing in the world but the fact that we were able to save our soccer team our community entity demonstrates that

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Running Naked Through 24 Time Zones, Virgin Births, Corpse Compost

The Weirdest Thing I Learned This Week

43:58 min | 1 year ago

Running Naked Through 24 Time Zones, Virgin Births, Corpse Compost

"We're gonna steal the declaration of independence that is what these salamander say every time they got pregnant popular science we report and right dozens of science and tech story every we have more most of the stuff we stumbled across makes it into our articles we also had plenty of weird facts that we just keep around me off so we figured why not share those with you look into the weirdest thing i learned this week from the editors popular science i'm rachel bachman i'm eleanor come in and out short alex welcome thank you do you wanna briefly introduce yourself to our listeners sure i'm a pop site intern for the spring yeah really excited to be here awesome were excited to have you so let's get into the show on the weirdest thing i learned this week we start by offering up a little tease about some kind of fact that we learned in the course of reading writing reporting wasting time on the internet it's cetera and then we decide which one we just absolutely do you hear more about first than once we've all had time to spend a little science yarns we reconvene and decide but the weirdest thing we learned this week actually was eleanor why don't you start with tease you can now compost a human body legally legally literally my days on the lam are over alex how about you tease scientists doing research at the south pole sprint naked through twentyfour time zones in the dead of being at arctic winter oh wow that's poetry frankly my fact is about all the ways a lady can reproduce without feet assistance or interference as a male inspiring truly eleanor why don't you start thinking so a few years back living in seattle i heard about the most seattle thing of all time people want to compost other people that is extremely model and i've been following it over the years is it sort of evolved but the basic premise is that you know when you die something has happened to your body you can place a nice delicate shroud over a body in bury it you know in the earth you can cremated deacon dress it up and put it in a box fox which is something a lot of people prefer but someone was like you know what we should find a greener way to do this so that since been rebranded as a very sleek startup called recompose great name oh my gosh an it was legalized in may twenty nineteen in washington state amazing so that long ago into effect in may twenty twenty which means they're now gearing up their goal is to eventually compost seven hundred and fifty people at any given time in this sort of rotation of soil manufacturing and there are as i said a lot of motivations were this but the main one is that the ceo says if you choose this composting process over cremation which is currently the most popular form of corporate management in the country you can save one metric ton of carbon per body which is a pretty big deal when you're thinking about you know you're a lifetime of missions and also you're post lifetime emissions and really concerning those and and being green long after you're dead so the thing i was cares about how this process actually works making soil is really hard like composting is really rough i admire the people who do it end who turned my orange peels into eight viable over usable product because it's not easy so so apparently recompose starts by putting a body in the steel vessel for one month need these really wild mockups literally fun to look at where it's like all of these vessels in honeycomb patterns and like they're like you know the room is full of like i i remember breathing hard rebranding was being like you're not in a compost heap you're in the atrium full of light which is like it's genuinely nice yeah it's a really good luck an so be ideas like within that vessel you're surrounded by wood chips alfalfa and straw andy mazer nutrients at the microbes that are already inside your body in on your skin will used to feed themselves and then heat up to a hundred and fifty degrees and start breaking you end this is very similar to how this is very similar to how composting in orange works where you're you know you have this compost pile this is the compost pile of one of course responsible and respectful but you have this compost pile and basically like the heat is fueling these microbes that can break down and decompose pretty much anything end if you stand by one in winter it's kind of like standing in front of like a really warm fireplace they're just like these more they can like spontaneously catch on fire right yeah they're powerful so basically that's what you're body would be in an similar composting they also rotate you're death vessel that you're sort of like shaken up an area like 'em lest you know fires or just like gross things happen in you decompose on evenly so they're really responsible they seem like they really got this process down you're laying a beautiful unsold atrium in a bed of wood chips and salsa and periodically having someone nudge me intern me that sounds great like i'm gonna do it now you're saying yes they should celebrate heights i totally agree and then we could all go seattle's together and show you around before we take a long alfalfa now so you know at the end of this process you come out of soil which is really cool people with pry on diseases are excluded other people with ebola further reason that they're trying to manage any potential pathogens in the soil which makes a lotta sense that being said i don't think that even wes extremely clean pre verified corpses you should be crawling anything in this nothing metal no i think maybe petunia yeah a tree yeah some for us a good then yeah have you my dad started yet definitely don't be eating out of this soil because humans are pretty gross we do a lot of really messed up things are bodies while were alive an basically i think you could all but guaranteed this will probably have some in biotics heavy metal heavy metal those are in regular soil to but you know when to cap oh yeah feelings whispering souls went on and on so who who i wanna go straight my fiance talks all the time about how he wants to be used to help grow it tree but he doesn't want like leaving willow he wants a pine tree because he wants his grandchildren to eventually cut down his death tree as a christmas tree saying i don't know when like when he came to this conclusion but he like talks about it not infrequently but what i was gonna say hey remember remember that about my darling has been to be is that an earlier episode i talked about lee company that sells or at least wants to sell kits like decompose you with mushrooms right mushrooms you there also like please don't eat the mushrooms can we get married food grade mushrooms a new spin on desktop musher a great yeah also doesn't aside mushroom soup camp why did anyone where should i ask you but definitely probably don't you you're you're grandma tomatoes truly heirloom tomatoes oh heck yes and you know just another thing i thought was interesting was they specifically talk about in this process about removing pacemakers and other electronic devices because not only are we full of pharmaceuticals but were also full all these other medical things in just just a fun detail pacemakers when they have accidentally been less inside people have college crematoriums to explode well yeah because those things do not bake wow wow see how they were like putting aluminum in the microwave yet don't don't try this at home or in their neighborhood crematorium end anything that wasn't clear to me was what happened with you're bonet i also have that question and so the company has they're very tight lipped i have tried to speak with them one of our writers tried to speak with them more recently they're not interested and they have not been asked about them dry bones and what's happening with them so i couldn't get a definitive answer so i went and other out and tried to figure out what regular composting does the bones and like we all know from personal experience in new york city if you manager again equates properly you are not allowed to put bones in his own they have to go in you don't go and the compost absolutely not that's the official slogan of the city cute merited blasio and so you know you have to put them in their trash and then they got all smelling it's terrible but the reason is because the city says and i quote that these bones only degrading favorable conditions in soil making his rarely favorable and it's very difficult to control you would have to add it seems specialized flies microbes if you want something to break down like the harden coliseum of a you know a bone and so you're just not supposed to put them in their in their as i said there's no information from the human competent project or as they're called himself now recompose about what you do with human bones but i'm pretty sure they answer is that there's no way that they would break down like within a human lifetime in the normal composting situation so maybe they have had a major top secret breakthrough and that is their proprietary technology or maybe they just don't know what they're doing with them dry bones in their binding another solution from an interesting question that i posed to them viet this podcast and they wouldn't respond to us in any other way and i you this is like a obviously a trend people are thinking more about whether they're last act on earth is eight big screw you to mother nature ran not you mentioned be mushroom suits which i found out that apparently luke perry may god rest the soul blueberry then well quite recently i know to window supports mushroom oh my gosh suits but yeah i also written about acclamation which is a thing where you literally just like dissolve the body and it's based off of this technique that they've they've been using for decades and lab rats because they're very hard to disposing of a ton of them season just like concentrate them and the solution is poison right down the drain it's incredible and you know i think they're gonna be new things coming down the line so it's really exciting i i think my point is that there's never been a better time to die oh wow wow hell yeah yeah we actually had an article by nicole what's men in her most recent print issues and make it last issue which be amount of stuff that goes into the ground with you if you have like eight quote unquote traditional burial which to be frank is not traditional there at all it is a result of the funeral industrial complex but there's like this lead box and it off that concrete around it's like designed to keep you from decomposing and then you're in bond which has the chemicals there have been instances of cemeteries being flooded unlike those chemicals getting into the groundwater which is so key i remember talking to a researcher for a previous issue of the magazine and him talking about needing to somebody who's being exumed for some kind of legal purpose i believe and he just talked about like how seeing what a body looks looks like in there after a few years like you can never be on board for it again just you're just turning into goop just like toxic goop so yeah i am super excited that we are starting to have these more green options even cremation is like not super environmentally friendly releases a lot of c o two but yeah there's one guy but like the natural burial you mentioned the like putting the shorter the shroud around the rain airing them in the what they called him just like a forest of you know it's like a green burial right like they have the corner the market on that phrase right just got a normal burial yeah pre pre embalming craze burial yeah and then i know there's one town in colorado auto where you can get burned on a higher level of oh yeah and as far as i know it's the only place in the usa does that and you have to be like you don't have the listener sincerely but i got this from one of caitlin daddy's book she's the head v order of the good death so she's been on this the stick for a long time and you have to like become a member of the community like you can't just year loved ones can't just show up and be like please put his body on the pyre yeah i've come so fire it's definitely like a thing you have to expressed interest in while you're still alive and it helps a lot if you like lift their that's crazy though the only place where you could do that because that's like you know the world's third largest religion in the world like fourth largest religion like you're near burned on empire right and then usa just like no thank you like all unsanitary and would prefer that you look like a victorian zombies five duty ground yeah yeah it is wild me thinking about like how much we are not allowed to do wis are dead like there should be a law against just like burying someone in your backyard i mean you know you i i get why we have to like checking with authorities first you can't just again just like well god no no no one will ask about this ever 'em once once death certificates are issued had you know just take a whole totally isn't there also the egg i think that might be a prototype but they send you this giant egg to put the dead body in in the fetal position and then you bury the egg in the ground and then it turns into a tree how yeah like a big seed pod and that's cool yeah my question about the composting though is how do they know that it works if it was only just legalize so they did research at washington state university shout out to my mother's on my monitor cooks an they were they do they think six or seven test subject and found really good results reportedly okay awesome awesome story austin landed die absolutely they were gonna take a quick break and then we'll be right back this episode of the weirdest thing i learned this week is brought to you by anchor anchor is an app and website that lets you create your podcast for free it's super easy and has everything you need to create the 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been well documented that in plants and a lot of insects this method of reproduction is cheaper comment of course there's eight sexual reproduction where every individual is just always putting themselves in some capacity or another but then there's parts of new genesis which is when a species does sometimes you sexual reproduction or like otherwise should be capable of sexual reproduction but instead sometimes the females create their own babies so it's not like sexual reproduction where it's like i have both the male cells and the female cells because genders construct an end then they combined them in that makes the baby or they like bud smith just like here's my clone my baby on my arm but then prisoner genesis animals that have these tabloid cells instead of getting another individuals tabloid celje create be die plead zygote that's gonna grow into an embryo they make the happily they become deployed themselves or in some cases it could just stay would and that's that can be super messy 'cause animals are supposed to have a certain number of permanent and having half that many is just no way no so like i said it's pretty common among plants an insect but there are known cases in the lizard snakes birds and sharks down yeah there's been about tight yeah there have been more than fifty new cases of parts in genesis invertebrates since nineteen thirty two when the first one was recorded so a lot of the stories you'll hear about the news are snakes because they're kept in captivity a lot and they're also some cases of sharks in captivity one of the most well known instances are domesticated turkey is often can reproduce through person who does that which i did not know until today on long yeah so they can lay on fertilized eggs that and then grow into turkey is now in most cases like if you took just a random selection of domesticated turkeys and waited for some of them to reproduce by partnered nss most of those resulting turkeys would die really young they do not do well but if you selectively breed for the one that survive if there have been cases where people have like create influx of turkey is that just lay more exit make more turkey and i'm like oh so apparently the males that are boring have smaller testes so you know not everyone's a winner by no mammals have been known to do this naturally though there have been some experiments that have made it happen in the lab and on the human side of things you know in the last couple of decades researchers have figured out how to make this happen at the cellular level like turn an exile into stem cells that are fully functional sells not just a sex elvis half the criminal and it means so that has a lot of applications for creating stem cell therapies and also people get very excited and thinking about ways that people you know if there are a couple of that both produce sperm or both produce eggs that eight doctor could turn one of their sex sells into v opposite the sex sells a combined oh wow and of course we have not done that yet but it is something that gets talked about a lot every few years there will be some promising step in and everybody gets very excited if a turkey couldn't do it we can figure that out definitely absolutely there are cases of eggs in humans sometimes like try to start growing into an embryo so this was in nineteen ninety five end i'm referencing a new scientist article about out the study called the boy whose blood has no father ends or signed me up yeah so a lot of our listeners are probably already familiar with the idea of mara's where humans and other animals can have how different dna in different styles of their bodies it can be a result of absorbing i fraternal twin and having some of their dna be in certain parts of your body that have used those cells instead of your own they can the result of just like general walking us we don't understand yet making baby is probably a lot less sperm slams into egg in everything unfolds from there then we have long assumed i mean as i previously talked about we used to think that sperm had tiny men inside so imagine what we want a long way yeah imagine what will think of our current understanding of reproduction in a hundred years so yes humans can in rare cases were not actually sure exactly how rare have like maybe you're skin cells have different dna from the rest of your body and it will be like radically different it would be like you have you're siblings skin which is still oh my god so so in this case doctors figured out that this young boy his white blood cells did not match the rest of him so this boy that was referred to as fd he was three years old and he was being tested he was pretty healthy but he had some learning difficulties an asymmetric face features an interesting him geneticist realize that f these white blood cells had like the marks of female nece you on the crema zones they they couldn't find the why in me x y in the south end so their first thought was it may just be a criminal abnormality where you know you get like an extra x kind of logged dawn to the y about like no there is no way at all and then they were like well let's look at some other cells from his body and they saw that his skin had different dna from his blood and so of course the first thought was like oh so we're gonna find the this is like his siblings blood if you'd said he sister that never was but instead it was identical to his mother's m o b dna in his white blood cells came entirely from his mother and as far as i know this is only time this particular scenario has been spotted but they think what happened is that an on fertilized egg started the process of self activation that usually leads to a tear toma but that really quickly after word like while it was still just barely divided sperm fertilize it hub down oh so that wonders of ways as embryo is developing there were like extra jeans and like some of the cells were growing into certain issues but the south activated egg cells would have grown slower they think and in some cases wouldn't have been able to get jobs done at all so so for the most part b fertilized egg cells took over but yeah it's just so cool and especially cool because he was at least according to this report like pretty fine which is amazing and made need the researchers wonder how rare this actually is now many of their could would you so they they actually said they were like you know one of the things that's unusual about him is that his face is asymmetric and they were like maybe that's because the cells grow slower like he actually has you slower growing president excels on on one side of his face then of course outside experts were like lots of people have asymmetric my thought was same but it's not the only time it happened i mean if it happened once it's probably happened a bunch of times but we don't know about or maybe it almost always ends in miscarriages you know maybe it almost always goes so smoothly that we never find out about maybe both so that is absolutely the weirdest thing in this week and i hope fd is still doing great i think he's he should be oh he's the same age as me oh my god are you listening wow you hear all clear jeans i've ever heard of fd here blood is like also we know you're blood so i have just one more thing to non which is sorry ashley of tumors accident on i have a couple of more things before we wrap up as awesome as person who genesis is it's not like v only weird way that animals can reproduce that is not your traditional like has sex with the opposite sex baby so one thing is that whenever sharks and i think snakes to whenever they have an instance of present a genesis v zoo keepers researchers will always do a lot of work looking back at when they last had contact with a male because they can store sperm for a really long time and burn pouch yeah or there may be like special ducks near their sperm doc so in twenty twelve eight captive brown handed bamboo shark and california fornia she gave birth and they knew it'd been about three and a half years since she had made it at least peak has from that point on she had been in an enclosure which is only female sharks and so they were like well that's too long to be sperm storage it must be a virgin birth but then they tested the offspring and they were like oh no this definitely came from a boy shark at a grocery stores which are involved it's really amazing to that their animals that could just be like this is a good time for me yeah they contact the father child support you know three and a half years later like so it's actually apparently really common for the species like meat from delight of september and then wait until the following july through february two legs and fertilize them and yeah it just comes down to like when there are enough resources when it's safe when the sharks feels like it's a good time time for her to be a mom and she got her dog goes to to own yeah which parts of the genesis two it's often thought that the reason we see it relatively often in captivity activity is because it's triggered by stress free and also like maybe just being without males is a trigger to some of these animals there's only one way to find out so yeah i mean obviously has its trade offs its pros and cons to reproduce without male input you have less genetic diversity if you're in age group of animals and they're all female and they're just reproducing parts energetically they're not gonna be getting new genes and so if something comes through with that is devastating to that population of genes they're out of luck if you're introducing new genes every generation you're more likely to have a good mix where like somebody who's gonna survive that's why sexual reproduction exists and if you're doing present a genesis you're not getting that however if you already have a genome that works in the specific environment you're in you don't have to worry about any genes that make that less good getting in so like if a snake isn't a little enclosure doesn't have to worry about like whether her gene her genes are good for that doing closure there good she's lying and also there no resources wasted on males it's like eight foods will go through periods of the populations being totally female and using person who genesis because like it it's less mouth toughish basically what is so okay so the very last thing is that there's something called klepto genesis witchery my age where when known a writer steel don't put it in their free winona literally free her were gonna steal the declaration of independence that is what these salamanders say every time they get pregnant so they're these salamanders i covered a study on the back in twenty seventeen all linked to be article in are podcast post on pop dot com end they're all female now you salamanders end they meet wis salamanders of other species and then they steal their genes now the obvious question is isn't that just split sexual reproduction is you know you meet and then you take their genes but the salamanders don't just smash sex sells together and make baby they seem to be able to pick and choose which jeans they use from be male species they made west and so like they'll meet with multiple emails from different species within their genus and then eventually whenever they feel they will produce offspring and those offspring can have like five times as many jeans as they average salamander or like three times as many jeans or the same number of genes an any little pieces can come from these other species and the same gina literal designer babies a manager edition and they're really not clear unlike obviously obviously the salamander isn't like flipping through a catalog exactly but you know there is some saying choosing is the wrong word but there's some kind of process a mechanism is that makes this mix occur and maybe it's totally random but there's probably some kind of mechanism involved and it's just wild so all of these salamanders share mitochondrial dna because that's passed down straight from the mother and so they're all just like from a maternal standpoint they would just be clones but they will then have hybrids made up of the dna of a variety of species so let's say a mama salamander she might have a couple of gino's herself worth of dna and maybe she is like got four gino from male salamander she's made west all from different species and so she might make offspring just from her own gene she made ignore those stolen genes that she has she might use only one of the stolen jeans she you have no way of knowing she can just create what ever little salamander her body chusetts end that's wild i love that patchwork are they genetically different enough to classify as a different species that is a great question so the researcher i talked to you about this back in twenty seventeen like yeah this is a perfect example of why by the traditional definition of species is kind of made up so a lot of us are taught in school that a species isn't animal and successfully reproduce within its own group that is a species but we know that hybrids can exist in certain cases they could even be fertile and go on to create more hybrids lakers tiger mules y'all my end so we know that that isn't actually how it works and then their animals like this where the species is kind of like it's like a lack of species ism right it is just constantly it is just like a constantly changing side species she is so each individual salamander if you looked at dna it's a hybrid but this whole lineage of salamanders just persists by creating new hybrids so like what is that is it a species well words are made up and that's it that's c a collection of genesis the person it nss the boy with his mother's blood lead that isn't yeah but it's such a cool title i want that to be made into my blood has no father it sounds like something even sadder really dramatic point and they wanna know 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that part up so they're pretty much there naked where it counts whoa so i've been working on a story about antarctica and i came across some very chilling information about what life is like at he added since scott south pole station which is the usa is base at the south pole where the only country to have eight sort of permanent structure at the south pole which has its own had demonic ramifications because that's the point where all the different claims seems on an article meet but that's a completely different road 'em so an article as a whole is just like really fascinating to me because on the surface it seems just kind of like a it's just like snow everywhere and penguins and very tame in cute an ice and stuff but there's actually some pretty weird stuff that happens there so like they have rocket powered planes they have underground neutrino detectors and they have eight pm at the edge of the world where there's a lotta strange stuff that that goes on down there but one of the strangest things is it's sort of a ritual called the three hundred club so this is where presumably very bored scientists experienced the temperature change up three hundred degrees fahrenheit by sitting in a sauna and then stepping outside side in the middle of winter thank you so to provide a little more context the south pole station is basically this futuristic elevated building it's about a hundred yards from the actual poll itself it house is about a hundred and fifty people during an arctic summer which goes from november the february and then fifty people dreamy antarctic winter which goes between march in october so during the winter the sun does not peaking above the horizon it is dark for eight months straight end you can't leave because it is so cold that planes cannot take off for land because they're jet fuel freeze so these scientists are basically just stuck in this frozen wasteland for over half a year studying astrophysics physics or atmosphere patterns whatever and they indoor what i can only imagine is seasonal affective disorder on steroids so they they get up to some tomfoolery good that's probably for the jets it's the best well you know maybe not particularly activity so around late july or early august that's when the southernmost point on planet earth experiences its coldest days of the year so the average temperature during this time i'm is around negative sixty degrees fahrenheit with with no windshield that's a temperature but sometimes that number could drop below negative one hundred degrees fahrenheit hopefully negative one hundred degrees so that's the actual recording temperature sure at the south pole without windchill as authority in this literally gives me chills right now sonar does not look happy don't like this concept so anyways when they you know scientist have a little bit of warning when this is gonna happen any sort sort of plan for it and when it does happen a group of very very brave souls will prepare to join the three hundred of stupid or calling you stupid you do whatever you feel so they get so the station the south pole station has its very own sauna 'cause they need to have some kind of place till it off steam i guess and they set the temperature to around two hundred degrees and when i first read about that i was like is that a legit temperature first sauna and it is apparently the maximum temperature most on his his two hundred and twelve degrees fahrenheit so the scientists will sit in the sauna for pretty much as long as they can beret like sweating their brains out and then they make a run for it through the frigid night they run a hundred yards the south pole wearing nothing but they called the bunny boots so these are like a government issued snow boots but other than that they're completely in the nude they run around the poll hit all twentyfour time zones on earth since they all intersect at the south pole and they both back inside to fall back in the sauna usually with the aid of some alcohol so in recent years participants have actually had the option to wear neck gators to cover their throats and keep their lungs from freezing because when you breathe in air that is negative one hundred degrees fahrenheit you're lungs can freeze if there's a lot of fluid and then so that's fine but other than that the challenges fully in the nude it's actually better not to wear underwear in the freezing condition made it reads onto you freeze on been sweating so much from the sauna oh man so yeah i agree eleanor's facial expression i mean it's kind of i'm not gonna rock and a hard place but i would prefer did not have a frozen anywhere personally but this also means experience leads to some very unfortunate incidences of frostbite in places that no human would ever wanna get by there is in article any atlantic a couple years ago about this ritual end chris perry who has done the challenge many times with a researcher down there he was quoted in this article he remembered a couple who did the challenge one year he says quote they both suffered some minor frostbite she on her nipples and he on the tip of his weenie if i never hear the phrase we need we need more just taken aback in had such a guttural reaction to the use of the word weenie rather than what he actually describe yeah absolutely and he's he said it again he said like a couple of other people got frostbite on their we need and it's like i don't feel comfortable referring to dental by their proper christian names like if you've watched year colleague get frostbite you open the dignity of referring to it as a peanut although what is it aside for activate on raanan isla jj so i looked up how long it takes to get frostbite a different temperatures and of course i don't know why did this because there's no information readily available on ant arctic conditions of negative one however at a windshield of negative ninety eight degrees i saw on a chart that frostbite unexposed skin ten of occur within five minutes so i can only expect the raw temperature of ninety to ninety eight degrees or lower the time would be even faster to get frostbite so suffice it to say that if you're a slow runner this is not the challenge for you and as a person who has no physical stamina or speed and his famously from florida this would be the best way the torture me probably and so i'm curious how this low key hazing started it is it is definitely definitely hiking hazing tikey i don't think anyone's pressure to do it but you know when you're down there that would wanna be there who didn't do i oh yeah absolutely so that if he stays inside you're weenie they think it definitely was so this hating started in nineteen fifty nine a few years after d u s had permanently set up shop at the south pole in a much more rinky dink facility than it is now meteorologist howard right affir created the two hundred club so it's basically the same deal except the sauna back then well with a lot less sophisticated because it would literally made by the scientists were spending the winter there so could only get up to i think a hundred degrees but redford did give certificates to people who completed his challenge and be exclusive antarctic fraternity has continued through today wow that's why we have more women in science for real true look at everything we promised some you may get frostbite under nipple and also you'll be trapped and they oughta you'll be trapped her eight month with a bunch of guys who think it's fine almost get frostbite on their venus's weenies we if we need revalue proper name yeah i like i personally love of the like whole hot cold nordic spa nang so i feel like i would be really tempted to try but three hundred yards is crazy i would wanna just like hop out into the snow indirectly back inside i think that would be a super satisfying experience it would like really get the blood pumping it would still be like a little dangerous but yeah i just the the running out you know loonies kim bo just great phrase rephrase i can't abide that you do get a patch to show up to so onto you're a antarctic fern you're not covered the first felt oh gosh wow this is fascinating i definitely am thrilled for the researchers in energy got that they have a sign up because there's so little to do a cold i would need the sauna like even if after a day of working in quote yeah absolutely i would need to just saw periodically throughout the day when you told me you were gonna talk about saunas in antarctica i did not expect this what what's the weirdest thing we learned this week a woman who had a baby maybe we how different yet with her blood down never rule recovers tougher that close second weenies akimbo great so i'm you know take credit credit for that as a win and a half from me there alica excellent work on near inaugural weirdest thing value quite weird thank you guys so much for having me it's the weirdest thing i learned this week is a popular science podcasts 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Oil Giant Aramco World's Most Profitable Company

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09:42 min | 1 year ago

Oil Giant Aramco World's Most Profitable Company

"Join the Wall Street Journal and National Geographic on wanna five unique land expeditions to Israel and Palestine Columbia, South Korea, China or South Africa book this once in our lifetime trip at NAT GO, expeditions dot com slash W, S J or call eight eight eight two zero five five six to one. Saudi Arabian oil giant Aramco has topped apple as the world's most profitable company around code has published net income in two thousand eighteen of one hundred and eleven billion dollars. Not compared with about sixty billion for apple which will vote was the previously profitable company in the world. The disclosure signals Saudi Arabia is willing to open it self to new scrutiny as it seeks to raise tens of billions of dollars their initial public offering by the year twenty twenty one this is what's news from the Wall Street Journal. I'm Anne Marie for totally in New York before we get to our big story on Aramco. Here are some other top stories. We're following the House Judiciary committee led by Democrats says a vote for Wednesday to determine whether it will issue subpoenas for the full release of special counsel. Robert Muller's report house. Macron's had set an April second deadline, but last week attorney general William bar said he expected a redacted version of the report excluding material related to ongoing investigations and grand jury matters to be available by mid April. The White House has reportedly reversed rulings that denied security clearances for about two dozen officials. That's according to the details of an interview with the Trump administration employees Tricia Newbold, which was released by the house oversight committee Newbold told the committee. She was retaliated against for raising objections at the White House and took the matter to congress over national security concerns lift rival Uber is preparing its own public debut this year. The Wall Street Journal's Jason Bellini highlights. A few ways the company is gearing up including steps to control expenses and diversify beyond ride hailing with services like Uber eats. The company says ubereats is on track to chief ten billion dollars in overall sales this year of from about six billion dollars last year. This is one of Uber. The biggest selling points over lift oversee yo DARA cadre shy has said he wants Uber to be the Amazon of transportation the place to go for all your transportation needs lift made its public debut on Friday shares surged eight point seven percent in the first day of trading. Saudi arabian. Oil giant Aramco is now the world's most profitable company. The company posted one hundred eleven billion dollars in net income last year exceeding, apple and Exxon Mobil combined. Joining us now from Dubai with more details is Wall Street Journal. Reporter Roy Jones worry, this is the first time we're seeing these numbers from Saudi Aramco, how did they come to light? And could you put them in perspective for us when we compare them to other big US firms these figures all the I look under the hood of Saudi Aramco, which is the national oil company of of Saudi Arabia. We found these figures in a bone perspective that the company has issued Aramco is looking to issue a bond of up to about ten billion dollars and to do. So it needs to release financial data to potential investors. And so that's why we're getting these figures for the first time why is around code issuing this bond. And making this disclosure that's part of the wide push for transparency in the kingdom. So crown prince Mohammad bin Salman is pursuing a economic reform agenda and wants to try to attract capital to Saudi Arabia and one of the ways can do that is by issuing this bond. And this is one step also on the way to a potential IPO of around co that could come in twenty twenty one in terms of the actual figures around code has published net income in two thousand eighteen of one hundred and eleven billion dollars not compares with about sixty billion for apple which we all thought was the previously most profitable company in the world. Let's talk a little bit more about that plan. I p that's been floated for a couple of years. Now and Saudi Arabia is planning to use the IPO to raise billions of dollars to invest back in the country. So those plans have been fulsome time actually way back in two thousand sixteen not long after his father became king crown prince Mohammad bin Salman announced that he wanted to list part of Aram Kirk about process has since stalled in large part because of concerns about disclosure, financials and greater transparency in in. What is considered a secretive kingdom? But also, there were a few other factors caused the delay one big the crown prince at initially said that he was going to all he thought the value of around co would be around two trillion dollars but analysts and investors and bankers the started to work on the on on not I figured out that the two trillion was probably a bit of a stretch. So. In some ways the bond issuance, which is going to be used to Aramco to buy a Saudi Arabia's national petrochemicals company that is owned by the sovereign wealth fund. And so around coz purchase and the bomb to do that will inject the sovereign wealth fund with some cash, and the sovereign wealth. Unknown is the the public investment fund is the main vehicle tasked with diversifying Saudi Arabia's economy away from oil and the way it's been trying to do that is is firstly through investments overseas. So it's been spending a lot of money on partnerships with investment firms such as SoftBank and its vision fund, which invests in technology companies and the Saudi Arabia's sovereign wealth is also bought into companies like Uber in part to diversify the kingdom's asset so way from from oil. So the other thing that this bond issuance and. Essentially, an IPO might do is it would inject this over and well-funded with even more cash in and it wants to develop entire new industries in Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia's quota quad a closed society. But it's opening up socially. And that means that the sovereign wealth fund wants to invest in industries, like entertainment, the cinema industry sports tourism. So are these entire industries the sovereign wealth fund wants to to build up and it needs cash to do that. And and that I might be the best way to do. The Wall Street Journal reporter ory Jones joining me from Dubai with the latest on Aramco now, the world's most valuable company. Thanks so much worry. Thanks for having me for more on this story had to our website, WSJ dot com and coming up more business headlines from the Wall Street Journal joined the Wall Street Journal and National Geographic on one of five unique land expeditions to Israel and Palestine Columbia South. Korea China or South Africa along the way, you'll enjoy exclusive access to pioneering journalist scientists and business leaders in each country and game profound perspectives on the past present and future of our world book this once in a lifetime trip at NAT GO, expeditions dot com slash W, S J or call eight eight eight two zero five five six to one. Welcome back to what's news from the Wall Street Journal now onto some business headlines Kellogg is selling its Keebler cookie. Business and other snack. Brands to Ferraro group for one point three billion dollars. As part of a reorganization of its North American operations. The company is looking to shift the focus to products with better growth potential Kellogg will retain brands, including Pringles and cheeses in North America discovery has launched a natural history. Themed video service says it expands its offerings in the streaming space. The company is pushing its nonfiction programming including the British Broadcasting corporation's planet earth series discovery is also launching other streaming services geared to foodies and home improvement fanatics. This year, the most coveted souvenir from March madness isn't for sale Wall Street Journal reporter, Rachel Bachman found commemorative rugs have been all the rage. The NCAA to make each tournament site more homey for the players creates team logos and player named plates to put into locker room to help make them more welcoming one of the things they added tournament. Why this year is a three foot by five foot rug that says March madness on it the player saw these and immediately fell in love and wanted to take them. The only problem is there's opposed to stay put. So some players have resorted to rolling them up in sneaking them out of locker rooms have you ever gone to extreme lengths to get your hands on a coveted souvenir? Tweet to let us know at S podcasts. That's what's news from the Wall Street Journal. I'm Anne Marie for totally in New York. Thanks for listening.

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California Takes On the NCAA

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19:05 min | 1 year ago

California Takes On the NCAA

"This episode of the Journal is brought to you by Lincoln. Jobs linked in jobs looks through. It's six hundred million plus members to find the most qualified candidates for or your job for fifty dollars off your first job post visit Lincoln Dot Com slash the journal terms and conditions apply California passed a new law last week that could dramatically change college sports the California bill would allow student athletes to make money off the use of their name likeness and image it was just passed the state Senate and now heads the Governor Gavin newsom desk the bill would open the door for college players to get paid not by their schools goals but in endorsement deals this signals a fundamental shift in how people think about college athletes for decades. Many athletes have argued. They deserve to get paid while the College Athletics Association. The incident a says they are students not professionals today on the show. Oh how the conversation around college athletes changed and what California's law means for the future of College Sports Welcome to the Journal our daily show about money business empower. I'm Kate Linebaugh and I'm Ryan. Kanoute said it's Wednesday as September eighteenth last week the California legislature unanimously voted through a bill that will allow college athletes to profit from their name image or likeness Rachel Bachman covers college sports and this bill also would prohibit colleges from punishing athletes if they do the same if they profit from their name and you've been covering college athletics for a longtime both the sports and the business side of what do you think of bill like this will do to college athletics well. I think it will bring some more money to college sports parts but more likely I think it will shift some around for instance now if the business wants to have a player endorse something that it sells for instance. Nike that business really has to fund the university or the Athletic Department can't pay the athlete directly so now under this bill that business would be able to pay the athlete directly in the form of an endorsement deal and so that could be new been common could be some money. That's shifted from the Athletic Department to the Athlete directly clearly college students making money off their sport. It's not completely a foreign concept way back in the beginning of college sports. There were no rules against compensation I think because it was really the wild west very early on there was some colleges that had a more sort of Victorian view of how athletes should be compensated or whether they should be so as you can. Imagine people playing by different rules is not great for competition early on there. Was this idea that it college athletes should only play for the love of the Game Walter Camp Famous Yale football coach said a gentleman never competes for money but there were rumors of college football teams bringing in wringers there was no national standard for how college athletes should be treated mm-hmm when the National Collegiate Athletic Association the NC Double A. Was Formed in the early twentieth century it created basic standards as for college sports and eventually those standards came to include a rule giving athletes a scholarship was fine but there should be no paychecks no endorsement deals it's partly a philosophy and leaders of the NCAA say that it also responds to essentially fan demand that event you know many fans say they don't want college sports to be like professional sports they want college athletes to play to earn a degree and to play for the love the game and a lot of fans and certainly against a fear that if athletes were to be paid some significant some beyond their scholarship it really would change range the fabric of the game and they wouldn't be as inclined to watch in practice the student athlete concept also help protect ex- schools and the NC double in one thousand nine hundred ninety four a running back at Texas Christian University was paralyzed during a football game. A court court later ruled that he wasn't eligible for workers compensation because he wasn't a university employee. He was a student athlete in the early days. This debate was really over small amounts of money but by the eighties the economics economics of college sports would change big time college athletic departments really started exploding in value when people realize that a lot of people but wanted to watch for Instance College Football College basketball on television television rights deals to Broadcast Games became very lucrative for instance dancy itself puts on and produces the NCAA men's basketball tournament that money essentially helps run the entire NCAA and it's not just the NC double A. Making making money for instance if you look at coaching salaries they've increased rapidly over the last ten or twenty years and you now have a number of coaches making several million dollars a year some as as much as seven eight million dollars a year and you see sort of a a funneling effect happening because only a certain amount of money by by NCAA rule can go to the athletes and so the overage the excess revenue has to go somewhere else so generally goes to very fancy facilities this and it goes to coach administrative salaries how did it change the relationship between fans in college athletics all these TV contracts well. I think what we're seeing especially in recent years is more of a realization among fans of just how much the NCAA and these universities are making from television contracts as fans have watched these TV contracts balloon in value also noticed that hey the athletes it's on the court really aren't making any more money than they ever have and I think a lot of people see that in wonder hey is that really fair. TV v Nationalized College sports it used to be that a player say an Oregon ducks football player would draw fans from Oregon like me but with ATV contracts that player could get national fans in schools made a point of selling jerseys with the star players numbers and made profit from these jerseys but players still didn't get a cut and then in two thousand nine one player challenged the answered ablaze rule in court his name is Ed O'bannon Bannon was a basketball star for Ucla and the the Nineteen Ninety S. He was player of the year he played on a national championship team. He was the kind of player that any casual college basketball fan new by the early two two thousand Ed O'bannon was long out of college he was retired from the NBA in working as a car salesman and then one day. He stopped by his friend. Mike's Mike's House o'bannon talked about what happened. Next on a podcast called the nod his kid and I were out in front yard throwing the football. My ex is HEY. The kid last night was playing a video game with you in it. You WanNA check it out. I was like Yeah Man Heck you. Can you know so we go in in a house and the kid pulls up the video game and he plugs it in and pick the team. UCLA ninety five teen there. I am the Connecticut Huskies the Ucla Bruin. This were both teams wanted to the Jersey the player in the game was wearing didn't say o'bannon but it might as well have there was a player player on the UCLA team that was his height his weight his number and he was even left-handed headed brown skin broad shoulders orders number thirty one one of my favorite moves or at least favorite shots was a jump Hook. The jump Hook was there and yet abandoned didn't see a dime from this o'bannon told the Nahed he was angry. I thought how dare they the balls that you gotTa have aw to take. Someone's look if I if I was an actor. You wouldn't be using my likeness without calling me without what us come into some mm type of written agreement but because I am a college athlete. You feel like you have the right to my image. It just rubbed me the wrong way in two thousand nine. Ed o'bannon sued the NC Double A. as the lead plaintiff in a class action lawsuit essentially what Obama was doing was challenging the NCAA rules that prohibited athletes from profiting from their name image likeness covered a lot of things it was very limiting to two athletes and abandoned won his case. The judge ruled that it had violated antitrust law. Yes the court said o'bannon should have been paid in this case. You can't use someone's likeness like that but it didn't strike at the heart of the student athlete concept upped the judge in the case. Claudia Wilken wrote that the NC Double A. Still had plenty of power to make rules preserving quote the revered tradition of amateurism tourism and college sports they sort of lost the larger war for freedom from NCA economic regulation. The judge ruled not the players could make unlimited earnings based on their market value but that schools could pay them a little more than their scholarships to help cover the actual cost of attending college men for most college athletes that was worth. Maybe a few thousand dollars more a year and that's about it but beyond the courtroom for the first time the idea of student athlete compensation got a wider cultural viewing ed o'bannon opened a door and a new generation of college athletes walked walked through it. That's after the break. This episode of the Journal is brought to you by Lincoln jobs linked. Does the LEGWORK to get your jobless teen in front of the right people for your company. They look for candidates. It's with the right combination of hard skills and soft skills things like collaboration work ethic and adaptability for fifty dollars off your first job post visit linked linked in dot com slash the journal that's linked in. Dot Com slash journal to get fifty dollars off your first job. Post terms and conditions apply the only Ed O'bannon court case started started cultural conversation about athlete pay and over the next few years a few key events kept that conversation going the first Ohio Hi oh state quarterback Terrell Pryor and was a scandal at Ohio state it will have to sit out the first five games of the twenty seven season for Selling Championship Rings Jerseys Ed Awards and receiving improper benefits from a tattoo parlor prior was a standout quarterback at Ohio state in twenty eleven he and a few other teammates were sort of Vilnai's for exchanging their Ohio state team gear for Free Tattoos and small amounts of cash and discounts with local businesses and of course all this is against. NC rules rules prior was suspended and Ohio states coach was ousted for misleading investigators about what he knew. I think in the wake of that people started wondering during hey why should college athletes be so persecuted for trading some of the few things they do get like their team gear for some things that they want or need at the same time. College athletes were gaining a new type of leverage. The growing doing voice of athletes through social media was giving them a voice that they really had never had before and more athletes started speaking out not just about wanting money but needing it for instance. Kansas is Ben mclemore talked about an impoverished childhood where his mother sometimes had to sell food stamps to pay bills and you know Kansas is one of the most storied and richest college basketball programs in the country the University of Connecticut garbage as Napier said even amid the media glare of the final four twenty fourteen that he sometimes sometimes went to bed hungry because of NC rules restricting how many meals schools could give athletes. I was like I said this hungry nights. I'm able to eat and I still got to play tomorrow mark capabilities and sometimes it's that way it really was striking and I think his message so resonated because it was amid the setting that remember is earning the NCAA apparatus itself almost two billion dollars. People were really were very outraged. I mean race must also play a role in this because many top players in the air black including I think every player that we've talked about so far and they're often playing at majority white universities so it's their labor really that's earning all the money that they're not getting a Sharon Orrin. Yes it's true that at high profile at like departments generally football and men's basketball teams generate most of the revenue and those teams in many cases are predominantly African American so there is this notion that african-american athletes are helping earn this revenue to essentially support support the rest of the athletic department and yet not being able to share in any significant portion of that revenue themselves and how is the incidentally responding during in this period when athletes were speaking out well you know they really did respond in cases where there was a public outcry so for instance when when Napier talked what about going to bed hungry dancy very quickly changed its rules and allowed US schools to offer unlimited meals for athletes which in hindsight is sort of a no brainer as incidents like Napier's got attention. The outcry wasn't just a one off. Public sentiment was actually changing in two thousand thirteen seventy one percent of people agreed that a scholarship was compensation enough within just four years that number dropped by ten percentage points but that does mean that sixty percent of people still support the NC double A.'s position and among its supporters are some former players. I I feel like I have a little credibility knowledge about this because when I was at the when I was at the University of Florida I think my Jersey was one of the top selling jerseys around the world last week league former quarterback. Tim Tebow went on ESPN one of the most prominent broadcasters of college football in made an impassioned case against California's new law and yes. I know we live in a selfish culture where it's all about us but we're just adding and piling it onto that we're changes what's special about college football fan we turned it into the NFL advocates for keeping things the same like Tim tebow argue that money would skew recruitment high school recruits would just go or they could make the most money but the woman who co-authored California's bill was listening to a different argument Nancy skinner as Berkeley Democrat and she was inspired by hearing a speech she heard a few years ago by sports economist Andy Schwartz who has been pretty active in criticizing. NCAA and its rules curbing athlete compensation station. I think she just saw a chance to change something. You know when this bill was first introduced. It had some opposition. There were some people who who voted against it. It's it's been modified slightly since its introduction but the interesting thing is that as the NCAA has pushed back more and more lawmakers have voted in favor of this bill so oh in fact it's possible that the NCAA pushed back galvanized California legislators and prompted them to vote it through unanimously which they did and and how is the NC Double A. responded pretty forcefully. It sent a letter to California Governor Gavin newsom calling the bill unconstitutional. It's basically said you no hey we're working on this issue and we should have a chance to find some workable way to allow athletes to somehow benefit from their name image and likeness us and I think that legislators just said you know. Essentially we don't trust you and we're not. GonNa wait so here's our move in its letter the NC Double A. urged the state to reconsider the bill the NCAA also reaffirmed its long standing position that athletes are students not not employees really what this law in California represents is the beginning of the potential lifting of the cap in terms of what athletes could earn from their own skill so I think what you'll see is is a handful of athletes making significantly more than they make now. Oh and maybe a second tier of athletes making pretty good pocket money are pretty good walking around money and many athletes will be largely largely unaffected. California's rule would go into effect in twenty twenty three and it would apply to schools making ten million dollars or more a year from meteorites in response to this bill the NC Double A. has said that it might ban California schools from competing being in NCWA events like March madness legislators though are betting that California's size will force the NC Double A. to change. I I saw and that's all for today. Wednesday September eighteenth the Journal is a CO production of Gimblett and the Wall Street Journal all to hear Ed o'bannon entire conversation with the nod which is another Gimblett podcast go to Gimblett media dot com slash the nod thanks for listening. We'll see tomorrow.

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How the Coronavirus Stimulus Plan Is Different From the Last Bailout

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14:44 min | 7 months ago

How the Coronavirus Stimulus Plan Is Different From the Last Bailout

"It's happening wherever cupcakes. Are being frosted songs are being recorded and engines are being tuned. Adp is designing a better way to work with industry leading. Hr talent time benefits and payroll more companies rely on ADP than any other HR partner from small business to global enterprise. See how ADP can help you. And your people achieve what you're working for at designed. Adp DOT COM ADP always designing for people. A major stimulus plan comes together in Washington everybody recognizes the shock is so big the damage the so a large already of generally larger that. There's no time to mess around. You got to move quickly. How does it compare to the big bail out? During the last financial prices plus with the Tokyo Olympics officially postponed athletes face some tough choices older athletes athletes who are just sort of hanging on by their fingernails to compete in one final games. They might not be able to make it. It's Tuesday march twenty fourth. I'm Anne Marie for holy for the Wall Street Journal. Here's what's news. President trump says he hopes to loosen restrictions on travel and social contact in just over two weeks despite warnings from health experts. Who say it'll take longer than that to contain the CORONA VIRUS PANDEMIC? The number of use cases reached nearly fifty thousand. Today I would love to have. The country opened up and just raring to go by. Easter trump made his comments during a Fox News townhall filmed in the Rose Garden Wall Street Journal White House reporter. Rebecca Ball House has more from Washington we have seen from the White House. They had issued social distancing guidelines for a fifteen day period that set to end next week and the president said on Tuesday that he expects to be abiding by similar guidelines a little bit longer than that but that he wants this shutdown of the country to end very soon there are people inside his own administration including Tony Fao. She who heads the Infectious Diseases Institute who've said that we'll need at least several weeks before we're going to see this corona virus outbreak in the US begin to abate. He said just on Friday that he can't see how it would be that in the next week or two weeks from now that it would all be over so that attention that will be continuing to follow. Healthcare workers across the country are reporting shortages in the medical equipment. They need to respond to the virus. The head of FEMA says the trump administration is set to use the defense production. Act to secure sixty thousand corona virus test kits and order five hundred million facemasks for healthcare workers. The act allows the president to spur business to produce goods that are needed for national defense. Meanwhile on Capitol Hill Top. Lawmakers say they're close to reaching a deal on a stimulus package worth an estimated two trillion dollars to prop up the US economy Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. Who's been leading negotiations for? Republicans was optimistic. That the deal could come as soon as today. Senate Minority Leader Chuck. Schumer said only a few points or left to iron out last night. I thought we were on the five yard line right now. We're on the two. Us stocks rallied on signs. That a deal was near the Dow closed up more than twenty one hundred points or more than eleven percent the S. and P. Five hundred rose nine percent and the Nasdaq rose eight percent coming up. We'll look at how this massive stimulus package compares to the government efforts during the two thousand eight two thousand nine financial crisis. What does it take for a business to stand apart innovation? Not only being first but best of course that standing apart also requires an intrinsic sense of knowing that change isn't just inevitable but invaluable as the global financial group with over three hundred and sixty years experience. Mu F G KNOWS. The Path forward is rarely a straight line. It's why not only expect change but embracing discover how we can help you at Mfg. America's dot com slash innovate M. U. F. G. Bank Limited. Last time the. Us economy suffered a major shock was just over a decade ago when the financial crisis threatened to tank major industries and push the world into a recession at that time the federal government responded with a series of unprecedented steps to stabilize the economy now with the corona virus threatening a similar outcome. Congress is planning a stimulus package. That's even bigger joining me now to discuss. How the Federal Responses Compare His Wall Street Journal Executive Washington editor Jerry CYB and comparing the bail out of big banks in two thousand eight two thousand nine to the current corona virus pandemic a lot of differences. Obviously between these two events but what they do have in common is a potentially devastating impact on the US economy. Which is why. We're seeing the government now looking to step in here. I think the big difference is that the hit on the economy is even bigger this time and the federal response is going to be even bigger and you know. I think back to those of us who lived through the two thousand eight two thousand nine financial meltdown. We were kind of shocked at the extent of economic damage and then shocked again at the size of the federal intervention. You know if you take the combination of the tarp package which the bank bailout and then the stimulus package that. The Obama Administration passed in early two thousand nine. You had about a trillion and a half dollars with a federal intervention on top of what the Federal Reserve did will. Now we're talking about even more. We're talking about a direct stimulus and bailouts of probably north two trillion dollars when all is said and done and that seems stunning. But it's interesting. Because in retrospect a lot of people thought the government should have been even more aggressive in two thousand eight two thousand nine and nobody wants to make that mistake again so there are some similarities. A big difference is this is going to be even bigger and you broke this comparison and contrast down along a couple of other lines as well. Let's start with the timeline of how these rescue packages came together. If you go back to the two thousand and eight two thousand nine basically four months between the beginning of the crisis when the bank bailout was was passed and when the stimulus package was passed and so it seemed like it came in a blurb but it actually was stressed out stretched out over for month period. We're GONNA do this whole bailout package that we're discussing in probably a four week period. This time I mean this very rapid response and that's what's scary to some people. The government is doing very big things in very rapid fashion and some people in both parties in Congress are a little uneasy with that wondering well are. We sure we're getting this right. But on the other hand I think everybody recognizes. The shock is so big. The damage is so a large already and potentially even larger that. There's no time to mess around. You got to move quickly but this is very quick. During the financial crisis there was also a lot of concern about conditions attached to the financial stimulus given to big banks. And we're definitely seeing echoes of that here. Too as Democrats and Republicans have been hashing out the specific terms and conditions attached to this aid right and in effect. That problem or that question has been the biggest one holding up completion of this package. You know there is in the bill the Senate and then subsequently the House will be considering a five hundred billion dollar plug of money that the Treasury in conjunction with the Fed can use to make emergency loans and grants to businesses and Democrats. Have Holding this up. Because they want some conditions attached to that they want some ability to monitor where that money goes. And part of. This is a throwback to the two thousand eight two thousand nine. Bail out again because there was concern. In retrospect then that there should have been more conditions. Attached that financial institutions should have been made to answer more directly to the tax payers. So you see a greater inclination this time to try to quit some conditions in place to do things like what president trump and Democrat sayings. Making sure this kind of money is used for stock buybacks. That companies can't use money to buy back their own stock and raise their own stock prices. Those kinds of things and this idea that there should be some conditionality or strings if you'd like attached to the is one of the bigger debating points in the last few days and in the end the thing that has slowed down this package and finally there's a difference here in where the aid is going during the financial crisis the ballot was used largely to prop up institutions the big banks and there has been concern also on Capitol Hill about the current aid package. And whether it was giving too much aid to businesses over the public. What's the latest there? Well you're going to get a lot of both in the end and I do think there was some concern at the of particularly among Democrats that this not be too much of a business bail out package but that people who are being hurt by the corona virus problem. They're losing their jobs. They're being laid off. They don't have sufficient healthcare coverage deal with this kind of a problem that they'd be in first in line to get economic help from the federal government and in the end this crisis is different in from two thousand eight two thousand nine because that was really a crisis in the financial industry banks. Were going to go broke. This is a economic problem that begins with the fact that people are losing. Their jobs are being sent home and the economy shutting down because consumers can't go out in and do the regular things they do. People are losing their jobs as rapidly as we're seeing right now and so. I think that more aid to regular people is both appropriate in this case and also maybe the best economic door because the problem is starting not with the financial houses this time but with consumers and workers at the Grassroots Wall Street Journal Executive Washington editor Jerry. Cyb thank you so much for joining me. Happy to be with you. It's a disappointing day for sports fans worldwide Japan and the International Olympic Committee have agreed to postpone this. Summer's Tokyo Olympics by about a year because of the corona virus pandemic the delay will deal a financial blow to Japan and broadcasters like NBC Universal and discovery which together paid more than a billion dollars to air the games for elite athletes. The postponement is up ending training schedules and causing confusion about what comes next joining me now with more details is Wall Street Journal reporter. Rachel Bachman so Rachel. Let's talk about the impact on athletes besides having to postpone their dreams of playing in the Olympics. There's also the issue of shifting training schedules. What are you hearing about that particular challenge? Well Yes for instance. In the sport of swimming swimmers very closely tied their training periods to a competitions that are in pro approaching so they might taper their workouts from very hard too much easier as they get closer to. I the Olympic trials and the Games now. They don't know what their training for. They don't know exactly when the Games will be held. They don't even know where. And when the new trials will be held so questions like that are popping up in all thirty three of the Olympic sports. And you mentioned the trials. This is not just about the big Olympic Games. How is this going to work? What have you learned about that well? The US has one of the most elaborate systems of Olympic trials in the world whereas other Olympic Committee often sort of hand picked their athletes or use like world rankings to pick them the. Us often has head to head competitions to pick the teams. Because there's so many great athletes here. So for instance in swimming and track and field they have trial scheduled for June. Of course those are off now. So they'll have to reschedule them but those are long more than week long events with thousands of athletes and so those will all have to be rescheduled and who knows who will be at those trials versus who might have been at the at the scheduled June trials because you know a year passes. Maybe some athletes are are slower. Not Quite as good as they were and so they you know there might be different. Slates of athletes. Who actually are going to the trials and Rachel. What about the trials that have already taken place while those have to be done over? How does that work well? That's a great question. And that's one of the things yet to be determined for instance on February twenty-ninth the US had Olympic marathon trials in three men. Three women were selected. Now the question becomes will those be the athletes that go to the eventual Tokyo? Two Thousand Twenty one games. We'll they actually hold new marathon trials to determine those spots. Rachel I would imagine this could also result in athletes who were prepared to participate in the Games this year. Not being able to join when this event actually does take place. Yeah that's a great point you know. Athletes athletes were destroyed hanging on by their fingernails to compete in one final games. They might not be able to make it. They might not make the cut because it has a very competitive system so all these things are sort of yet to be determined all Right Wall Street Journal Senior Sports reporter Rachel Bachmann. Thank you so much for joining me. Thank you emery. And finally the Wall Street Journal has been asking for your questions about the corona virus. Today's question comes from Katie Schreiber in New York City. Are we sure that at getting a positive test for virus means you'll necessarily exhibit symptoms unusual necessarily transmit it to other people? Katie's not the only one worried about that for an answer. We reached out to our senior writer covering public health. Betsy McKay. She's been working on a lot of our corona virus health coverage so the test that exists now is one that usually only works. If you do have some symptoms or you're you're starting to feel sick so you probably will have symptoms and If you are positive Whether you have symptoms or not. You're likely transmitting to others. So if you get a positive result then you definitely want to isolate yourself as quickly as possible. Do you have questions about the Corona Virus Lisa voicemail at three one five nine two eight two nine eight you can find that number in our show description will be bringing on our reporters and experts to try to answer as many of your questions as we can. And that's what's news for this Tuesday afternoon. If you like our show please rate and review US wherever you get your podcast. I'm Anne Marie for totally for the Wall Street Journal. 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Newest Hall Family Runner, Ernie Banks, Jos Feliciano's Anthem

"This is only a game. I'm Karen, given American pro Sarah hall will be among the elite runners in Monday's Boston marathon, you might remember that Sarah. And her husband Ryan who holds the record for the fastest time run by an American on the Boston marathon course joined our show back in two thousand sixteen at the time Ryan had just retired from competitive running and Sarah was moving up to the marathon distance while together, they had agreed to start a family. There's no doubt. Being a parent is your face and adopting for kids was not a performance enhancing decision since becoming a mom. Sarah's running has continued to thrive, but she's not the only competitive runner thriving under the hall family roof reporter Amory row brings us the story. If you were born and raised anythi Opio, you would know the ring of track races bell up the way an American child record. Sizes the crack of a baseball hitting a wooden bat. It's a sound full of possibility. The bell bothers going away from this field, even the likes of Jerry and go to the Phillips and strong when your country has one fifty four Olympic distance running medals and someone asks you what you want to be. When you grow up oftentimes, the answer isn't much of a surprise the first time, I saw on television was to launch baba. And I was like oh my gosh. I really want to be like that's HANA hall. The oldest of four sisters adopted by Ryan and Sarah hall three and a half years ago on his dream of being an Olympic runner was nothing out of the ordinary for girl growing up easy Opio, but everything else about her circumstances was Ryan hall explains agreed orphanage with great nannies like well taking care of everything they need, but the same time like the never left the orphanage so their physical activity for the day was literally plane in driveway. And so you know, that soccer balls in different. Things they do, but is very limited. And they weren't feeling the under their feet or the grass under their feet HANA and her sisters Mia jasmine lily had been in the orphanage for three years when the halls began a conversation about adopting them, they're having a hard time finding a family for for the girls, and they were talking about possibly splitting the girls up in so sending two to one family to to 'nother family, and that just really gripped my heart because I grew up in the middle of five kids, and I just know like how important my siblings arts me, and I just could not imagine being separated from my siblings at that age Ryan and Sarah started visiting the orphanage regularly because of the language barrier. They couldn't talk much and Hannah and her sisters new little of Ryan and Sarah's life back home. We would kind of spent every other month in Ethiopia, which was actually really fun to train their that, Sarah. And we would head to the orphanage, and we would do some physical activity stuff with them. They were. Not what we observed as typical Ethiopian children who are typically very fit, very active always walking, whereas our girls after being orphanage not moving whole lot had put on a lot of unhealthy way. Specially kind of our older too. Just because they weren't able to be physically active. When we'd go. Visit we try and do just fun games with them physical games. I remember doing relays with them. I remember we'd do like planking just trying to like do physical things that are fun for them. Just to try to get them moving a little bit more eventually Sarah Ryan sat down with the girls. A nurse asked them if they wanted to formalize the adoption and join Sarah and Ryan's family. It was important to the halls at the girls were given a choice in the matter. Hana enter sisters responded with an emphatic. Yes. After we asked them if they wanted to join our family, we got permission to take them out of the orphanage, which didn't typically happen and take them shopping for some clothes and stuff because especially the older girls didn't have any clothes at them. Because a lot of the donations were babies, so we we were mainly going shopping Meskel square. But seeing the runners training there Meskel square the girls are excited to get out and join in and so so yeah, that was our first family run. The first day we we decided to become a family. I guess do you remember about how far you guys ran that day? It was super short. Like two hundred meters. Maybe it was the girls we had to start out really really slow with just getting them active again. Later while staying at the village a training facility outside of Addis Ababa and awaiting visas for their daughters the halls brought the girls to the track is actually track. Yeah. Would just kind of like doing it for fun that then I was like I couldn't do it like two laps because I never don't like running. You know, just was like, oh, my gosh is really hard leg. Then I just like stopped in the middle. I was like cried I was like waste is. So like, you know, but it was fun though before the new family of six lefty, THEO, Sarah. And Ryan asked a translator to spend some time with them just to get to know the girls a little more because they didn't speak any English, and we were still learning heart. And we asked the girls like what they wanted to be when they grew up and honest that a runner and that kind of surprised us, but we were kind of like, okay. And we told her we were runners Sarah says they had told the girls a bit about their running careers. Earlier, but they didn't fully understand how famous their parents were until the family arrived in the states the girl settled into their new home in Redding, California, Honda and her sister Mia ran track for their middle school their strides were not very pretty looking at the time. But they were tough. They still like did really. Well, just because I feel like they know how to push through pain and stuff maybe in a different way overtime hana's fitness caught up with her nasty and her enduring childhood ambition to be a successful runner and just one year after the family settled in California when HANA was ninth grade. She towed the line at the Eureka cross country showdown. There's a lot of people foot. So I was like, okay. I just all my best. That's all. I would. I couldn't do. Yeah. In my debt, my mom and dad what they're just like saying courage me to go through to just push. It just do best. Ryan recorded a video as the first runner approached the finish. It was HANA. She held her advantage to the line notching her first ever running victory gray run on a good job. Nice on a finished your own finished your own great job on on a very emotional person. Like, I don't cry movies, not like super emotional. But for whatever reason like that that moment really like like almost brought me to tears, I think people who are parents would understand the feeling. But when you're watching like, your kids, do something and you see them thriving. There's just something about that just pulls on your heart and away that my heart had never been pulled on before. Do you? Remember anything that your mom and dad said to you after that race? Oh, yeah. Like Silverlake so excited is like how you feel about race in like you look really strong do the race. I was like, oh, I am. Makes you really happy. Brian says Honda began putting in consistent work six days a week. She ran in the early mornings and at team practices after school. She went for long runs on the weekend. I mean, she does of an advantage in the fact that like I was essentially coaching her that entire time. So like, I know few things about running I think helter just to feel so but man, just seeing the power of consistency. She have that fire that you just can't teach you know, like, you can you can help someone gain fitness in running and and become a stronger athlete, but you can't really teach competitive drive and fire, and I could tell that she had that last summer the hall family, moved to flagstaff Arizona and HANA enrolled as a junior at flagstaff, high a new state a new town and a new school brought new challenges, but it also brought a new team and a fresh cross country season HANA wasted. No time establishing herself as the number one runner on flagstaff roster. And this past fall, she entered the Zona state high school cross country championships with target on her back and the one I was in. None of us. I was like oh my gosh. There's so many people in here is really a crowded is really exciting. Yeah. In moment. My parents were there, and my grandparents were guava, so cool. It was a little bit of a challenge in day for me personally because I had I think just the week before run the Frankfurt marathon. And in the process injured, my prone intendant, pretty severely. So I was hobbling around. I was on crutches. But I didn't really wanna be on crutches out there. So I was trying to like walk around without the crutches. But normally I I run all around in Jerez, and I'm able to cheer for her like forty times, but I I wasn't able to do that. But yet before the race, I just told her like just go out there and be you, you know, you don't have to be super human today. You don't have to like do anything that. You don't already do every day. Like every day you go out and bring it if you do that you're going to win this race. And so I just tried to help kind of bring the nerves down. And I think what's fun is like as an athlete. I know I want my coach to tell me that's going to put me at ease. Make me feel confident you know. And so it's fun to get to have that translate to HANA with Sarah confined to the finish area. It was up to Ryan to Bahana support during the race. He told HANA he'd be at the two mile, Mark. The most quiet part of the course where she was planning to break the race open. I've found that's always really good place to make a move where there's no one else. Guess there's not a lot of energy out there. And so a lot of people they kind of relax in those areas. Of course. So I told her I'd be there. But the problem is I'd been sprinting all over the course to try to cheer for her before that point in. So I popped out at that point. She was already like a hundred meters pass me. So I was literally like. Sprinting down this golf course lake in my jeans, and like a v neck t shirt trying to catch up. You're like don't have any air my lungs, but somehow manage to yell outer like go on a now, he just like shot like so loud. And like, okay. You got the like you almost there. Like, I was like, okay. You know, like, I was pretty tired stuff. And I was like, okay. My dad's here that chewing me on like, I can do this. I can finish this. Yeah. That was really inspiring. Hana broke the finishing tape of the challenge in five kilometer course in eighteen minutes and seven seconds. She became the third member of the hall family to be crowned high school state cross country champion, though, you could argue she traveled the farthest to do. So her story speaks to me all the time. I mean, honestly, I don't know how she does what she does every day. Like, you know, she's been dealt like such a rough hand like even of our of the four of our kids. Like, the definitely the hardest hand being the oldest and never never going to school starting school at fifteen was the least bit of all of them. And yet has just defined what it is to be an overcome or you know. It's hard not to think about how far Ana has come nine thousand miles from Ethiopia four schools and four years a new language and while she's covered all that distance. She stayed true to her childhood dream except now it's not your initiative baba. She's chasing. She's chosen new role models. Yeah. Kinda wanted to good performers like my mom and dad, so that's my goal. Hana Hal will be cheering for her mom Sarah hall in the Boston marathon on Monday. Our story came from reporter Amory row. You're listening to only game from NPR this podcast is made possible by Samuel items for thirty four years Samuel Adams has made their Boston lager. Inefficiently Sam Adams Bruce with one hundred percent heirloom middle Fru hops logger in their beer for over a month. The Boston beer company, Boston mass savor the flavor responsibly. Hey, it's a fear Eisenberg host of NPR's asked me another. And I'm here to let you know that every Friday in April, we're bringing you an episode that spotlights women comedy, you'll hear from Reta the star of NBC's parks recreation, and I'll talk to Russian doll actor grittily and co-creator, Leslie Hedlund and many more. Listen now. I'm Karen given. And it's time for three stories, you should know this week. We've got three basketball stories from three different leagues. I'm joined by the Wall Street Journal's Rachel Bachman and the athletes Michael Lee, welcome back to both of you. Great V here. Karen, thanks for having me. Michael starts off in the NBA. Well, the NBA playoffs or upon us. But before we get ready for what expect to be to coronation for the Golden State Warriors, which probably look back on what just happened not just the regular season coming to an end, but the careers of two legends and short time rivals. Dwayne Wade Dirk Nowitzki Wade announce before the season will be final dance leaving it up to fans and opposing players serenade was six months of fawning affection. Nowinski wasn't sure that he called it quits into the season's final weeks before the truth. Hit him fans coaches and even Commissioner Adam silver, notice, how terribly he was moving and enthusiast. Lisa goodbye before he snuck off. Recent farewells for Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan have aligned perfectly with their personalities. Wade, of course, invited goodbyes if up to him Vicky probably would've walked away Dunkin did with no fanfare public displays of emotion. But in a social media as that signal are heightened desire for stodgy and connection will a truly great player ever get a chance just fade into the background or cities. Appreciate the left leftist. Well, I think should appreciate it. I mean who among us gets this kind of agile action. It's incredible on and on and on. I have to say the NBA gets social media better than any other league in the world. They have a what what Atlanta the TV show Atlanta refers to as a no chase policy when it comes to putting clips on Twitter. You know? In other words, any fan can rip off a few seconds. And put it online the NBA. Let's happen. And I think it's so smart to, cultivate, this, you know, never ending social media love fest for the NBA. It's just very savvy. Absolutely. I would like to see a little of. My time to number forty four D. Wade congratulations on a great run. Now. I know what you're going through because saying goodbye to a career that you love is never easy. I've been there in my case though, I didn't really have a choice. You know, my knees were shot. So I had to give up basketball forever. I just wanted to hear his voice again. But I do actually have a point. And that is I think that it's true social media does play into this. And there are a nostalgia and good feelings. But I really feel like we are enjoying these moments because there's very little else to ensure. I don't know it, right? Like, we are in joy this retirement moment. I think a little bit more than we used to just because it's really great to have something that we can all get behind enjoy right now, totally agree in a think that if you're a fan of say the Mavericks the heat him both miss out on the playoffs. Then all you really could just focus on the fact that you were fortunate enough to have a legend play for your team and bring championships to your city. All right. Well, the WNBA has a new logo for those keeping track at home. This is the second new logo in six years for the league the new logo. Where's her hair in a bun instead of a ponytail, and she's not contained inside a box, which is nice. I actually have no no issues with the new logo at all. Except for this one. The WNBA is twenty two years old two thousand eighteen was an exciting and successful season on the court. But it was still all but ignored by many in the mainstream media the players have opted out of CBA signaling what's likely to be a contentious contract negotiation is a new logo really what the league needs right now. You know, that's a good question. I think you could always debate whether changes the right thing when a league is still growing, it's base. And I think I think the jury's really still out what one thing that. I think the WNBA could still do is in some way try to capitalize more on the event and the growing interest in the women's final four in the women's tournament. That's a challenge as as we all know women's pro leagues are are way behind just in terms of timing. Most men's leaks have half a century if not more of a head start and in very crowded attention economy. That's quite an obstacle to overcome Michael. What do you think? Well, actually, I love the logo primarily because it Br. Away from the NBA and just sort of seen as sort of a spin off as opposes own entity. And I I love what the league is doing now in terms of having its players become more voices and say men's games and seeing Candace Parker doing TNT or the NCAA tournament. I think having women's voices and understanding the game itself. A basketball is is just something we should embrace not just as a man or woman just as just great basketball players. And I think if you talked to NBA players, which I do they have the most respect for WNBA players. They know how hard it is. And they also respect, and it Meyer, the fact that these women can hope anybody who knows ball in they can respect it. And I think that just seeing women more out, you know, and we can understand that they have a knowledge of the game in and we can appreciate it. More is going to bring in more fans that can understand it. This is the game of basketball. You know is beautiful no matter who's playing and finally working. To move onto college basketball. Rachel what's going on? Well, Texas Tech became one of the more surprising teams in the NCAA men's final in recent history for a couple of reasons, but a big one was because of transfers to of their starters were graduate transfers that means they graduated from their previous schools. This was great. I mean, you know, you don't often see first time champions. I think this is Virginia. For instance, was the first first time champion since two thousand six usually it's the same blue bloods over and over again. So it was really fun to see some new teams. Of course, incomes, the NCAA to change the rule or proposing the rule they will soon vote on a proposal to essentially discourage schools or make it more difficult for schools to accept graduate transfers, if certain conditions aren't met, of course, coaches like to keep control they like to know that their players are going to be around and not be transferring or for instance, leaving early for the NBA so some of them would like to see less movement. But you know, I think this is Fanta. I mean, a lot of times as we all know college doesn't go exactly as planned situations change, and you have chance to go to this rising team. And by the way, you already have your degree. So I don't see much downside to the way things are right now. And a lot of upside when the NTA does something, right. Let me know. I'm still waiting for them to make a decision that makes sense. Like, you said, you know, sometimes some situations don't work out. And sometimes you have a situation where you know, you just want to be closer to home any other student has a right to do that. And if a coach can leave without any, you know, no punishment is involved there. Then I'll know why the players have to be the ones to suffer. When they are what people come to see. I just I don't know why the NC double A makes it so easy for us to criticize them. Consider this Abilene Christian university made their first appearance in March madness this year that school only graduates twenty nine percent of its black basketball players Abilene Christian isn't being told to improve that statistic or risk punishment. So how can we believe the people in the NC double A who are suggesting that this? Graduate student issue is a matter of integrity. It's absolutely ridiculous. To me what they're saying is if you don't graduate within a year the school is going to be punished. There are a lot of graduate degrees that take more than a year. Mine took five, but I was really slow. And it might take longer if you're playing basketball. Absolutely. Rachel, I think you're right. This is all about control. And it's just another way for the coaches to control their players for as long as possible am I really being too harsh on that? No. I don't think so and and let's take a step back. And remember that the NCAA is not just like five bureaucrats in a room in Indianapolis. It is a member led organisation. So very often when these proposals that are often unpopular get elevated, it's because a bunch of school said we don't want this to happen or we want this to happen. So the NCAA to some extent is doing the bidding of the schools that make up organization, my guess for this week's basketball edition of three stories. You should know have been the Wall Street Journal's Rachel Bachman and the athletes Michael Lee, thanks to both of you. Thank you. I thank you very much. When Ernie banks was inducted into the baseball hall of fame in nineteen seventy seven he started his acceptance speech like this. We got the sudden sunshine fresh air, we got the team behind us. So let's play two. Let's play two is the title of new biography about Ernie banks written by Ron Rapoport banks played nineteen seasons for the Chicago Cubs. Earning fourteen all star knots. But there was a side of him. Few people knew in the prologue to his book Rappaport tells the story of one moment when Ernie banks let down his guard, and we liked that story so much we decided to give it a double play. That's what we call our occasional series where we turn a newspaper column or book chapter into a radio drama. On the morning of September eleventh two thousand one former Illinois state Senator William mayor Vits was awakened in a hotel room in Omaha Nebraska by the sound of a ringing telephone. Turn on the TV the voice in his ear said it's early mayor of it said heard it on. Very very together. They watched smoke billowing from the north tower of the World Trade Center in New York and the chaos in the streets below. Then they gasped in unison as a second plane struck the south tower. Looks like it is some sort of a concerted to attack the World Trade Center that is nervous hurriedly dressed and took a cab to the golf course not far away there. He joined more than one hundred others who had been invited to attend an outing arranged by Warren Buffett, the businessman investor and philanthropist, and one of the world's richest men for the first time in my life. I'm speechless. But those who had flown Omaha should entertain no thoughts of returning home. Anytime soon buff it warned I know many of you have your own planes. But it doesn't matter. The sky is closed mayor of its looked around for the two men. He had previously arranged to play with stem and gram Chicago businessman, who is best known as the fiancee's of Oprah Winfrey. And Ernie banks the hall of fame baseball player who had spent his entire career with the Chicago Cubs as they made their way around the golf course, they could see buffet visiting with each group of golfers and giving them updates on the attacks as he approached them, but it's walkie talkie. Crackled Mr. buffet Air Force One is just landed. The plane carrying President George W Bush had arrived at nearby off. It air force base the headquarters of the United States strategic command, which contained an underground bunker built to withstand a nuclear blast. At that point. We don't know if we're in the safest place in the world or the most dangerous. At breakfast. The next morning Graham told mayor of its banks that Winfrey would be sending a plane, but as the day wore on it became clear that not even Oprah Winfrey would be able to breach the closure of the nation's air traffic and for two more days buffets out of town visitors remained stranded on the third day mayor of its began making calls and found a rental agency that had a car available. He invited his golfing companions to join him. But gram held firm. He would wait for Winfrey's plane. He said, but Bank said at coming with you and after getting directions from the hotel, the two men set off on a trip to Chicago. They were told would take about seven hours. Despite banks's constant public display of good cheer merits and others who knew him well were aware of another more complicated side of his personality upon meeting. People banks would always ask a question in then follow up with more only later with those talking to him realize that he had not said a single word about himself. He'd asked me. How's that new restaurant doing are you going to run for office? Have you seen the mayor lately? Over the years, the people closest to banks learned that these questions and especially his two best known. Greetings, are you married? And how's your wife were a defense mechanism as long as he was asking questions? He didn't have to answer them. He was widely hailed as baseball's greatest ambassador. He exuded happiness and insisted there was nothing. He would rather do than play baseball. He never refused to give an interview or sign an autograph and his signature line beautiful day for a ballgame lets play to became a much quoted and much parodied part of the American vocabulary. But he would not talk about himself. But as the two men rode through the flat midwestern landscape banks began to talk and for the first time since mayor of had known him and the last he talked about himself. He talked about growing up as the oldest boy in a family of twelve in Dallas and the responsibilities that entailed once he had missed a year of school to help his father pick cotton. He talked about playing for the Kansas City monarch says the negro leagues were in their final years because the best young black players were following Jackie Robinson and the other pioneers into the major leagues he talked about. Buck O'Neil cool Papa bell and all the others who had missed their chance because they had been born to soon and how they compensated by teaching those who came after everything they knew he talked about the women in his life and the mistakes he had made with them one after another. He talked about his distant relationship with his three children and how he wished he had been a better father. He talked about his teammates. Would become as close as family during their playing days. He talked about Leo Durocher who had humiliated and mocked him. While Durocher was managing the cubs. And how he had responded with silence and runs batted in. He talked about the piercing disappointment of the cubs fabled faded season of nineteen sixty nine when the city and its fans had been on fire until the all too bitter end. He talked about the pain of never having played in a World Series and the fear that he would be remembered more for that piece of bad luck than for the great player. He had been he talked about the pleasures and burdens of being the very symbol of his team a one and only Mr. cub. Holy mackerel. No doubt about it. The cubs are on their way. Do it again. The hours rolled by and mayor of its fascinated by banks stories about himself fascinated that banks was telling stories about himself. Glanced up and saw sign that said Claire city. This doesn't seem right. He thought he had been distracted by banks's monologue. He realized and not paying attention to where they were going. He had better stop and check the directions he'd been given back at the hotel. Chicago. The man at the gas station said and burst out laughing. You cain. The wrong way. Fella. Mayor of its had not driven east from Omaha toward Illinois. He was told but north into South Dakota. He had driven through South Dakota. In fact, almost to the North Dakota border the seven hour trip. He had planned would now take at least fourteen laughing at the absurdity of it. All he gave his passenger the bad news turned the car around and headed for home, Ernie banks talking about himself all the while. That's the prologue from Ron Rapoport s- new biography of Ernie banks. It's called let's play to the legend of Mr. cub. The life of Ernie banks, and it's available now. Many thanks to the talented actors who helped bring our double-play to life Ameri Seaver Tsen Candice Springer Alex Ashok, Gary Wallich, Alec schnaps and Kelvin Brooks. After he sang the national anthem at the nineteen sixty eight World Series. Jose Feliciano heard some cheers. But they were very sparse. And I heard a lot of booze. And I said, wow. What did I do? Why are they bullying me, you know, coming up how that performance changed Feliciano's life for better and for worse. And remember you can follow us on Facebook and Twitter at only game and PR. Hey, it's here host of the Ted radio hour and on our latest episode. We're exploring what it takes to create social change, and the many ways that we as individuals might be able to make a difference in the world find it the next Ted radio hour from NPR. I'm Karen given next week on only a game on the twenty fifth anniversary of the Rwandan genocide. We meet a goalkeeper who was saved by soccer. But now Charlie pierces here with the week's news. Hi, charlie. Karen, Magic Johnson resigned from the Lakers on Tuesday. He told reporters, quote, I was happier. When I wasn't the president. It's really hard to argue with that logic, isn't it? I think that can be said of a number of people actually all necessarily people who are in sports franchises. It's always good not to be the president. Well, the Lakers brought in LeBron James this year after their fifth consecutive losing season. And then they had a sixth consecutive losing season. I know everyone loves magic, but wasn't his job to come up with a better plan than this. Yeah. Bringing in LeBron. And this sounds very strange given the status of LeBron and the game was desperation move antigen work. So it was time for me to step aside. And I guess. Run the dodgers, which is other job. Charlie. I'd like to present to you my submission for the hockey headline of the week. Are you ready goal sharks? Powell ski scores goal off. Jaw loses teeth. Pretty good. Hey, I mean, that's that's hockey guy. Right. Did the biscuit go in the basket? Biscuit, won the basket. It doesn't matter where it went I including off your head. The sharks won the game and Hal ski said we earned that one. And that's a good feeling. I think he and I have different definitions of I think possibly these Isla. Cain was a good feeling there. Virginia beat Texas Tech in overtime in the NCWA men's title game on Monday night, and almost immediately one writer declared that the team had quote the most redemptive season in the history of college basketball. I don't wanna take away from Virginia's win here. But that seems like a bit of an overstatement. There was a lot of hysterical reporting in that vein. You know, what they're talking about. Of course, Virginia bouncing back from having become the first number one seed to lose to another sixteen seed last year in university of Maryland Baltimore County, people were behaving as though disa- Virginia team that you know, recovered from a cholera outbreak aboard a plane that crashed all they did was lose a bad game. Well, and in case you're wondering how they managed the comeback from such a terrible loss in just three hundred eighty eight days. Someone actually counted. Cavs coach, Tony Bennett apparently hired a lot of extra motivational speakers this year. So there's that thank you for coming to my Ted talk, which which is entitled don't lose the sixteen seeds again. Although I have to I have to admit the first round game number one seeded Virginia fell fourteen points behind sixteenth seeded Gardner Webb and everybody in. I was in the arena. Everybody in the arena was holding. Well, twenty thousand people were in the arena to watch the women's final. And they saw quite a game. Right. Terrific game Baylor's deserving national champion. I thought Notre Dame played an incredibly tough and smart and well rounded game and neither Connecticut Tennessee was in the finals. Charlie last week. You issued this warning to those faced with damp baseball fields this spring shutting something on fire. We'll dry out, but it will turn it to ash. It's not terrific environmentally either. The whole point is it's not going to achieve your primary purpose. Seems like good advice to me. But apparently some folks in Connecticut weren't listening as they say in which casting Sundance kid, I got vision and the rest of the world wearing bifocals. Apparently this time there were fifteen to twenty parents who took turns dousing the baseball field with gasoline, while at least a hundred other people watched viscose passed a well intention, but bad idea into some sort of weird community activity today opened a concession stands. Because it sounds like a lot of people just showed up to watch. And finally, Charlie I can understand wanting to retire with some swagger, but agnosio Barbagallo an amateur soccer player from Sicily took that to a new level when he hung them up last week. Yeah, he had a terrorist officially terrorist group come down duct him, which by the way, if you lower a helicopter on top of your baseball field just a little bit of the ground. It will dry out without having the light of unfair. So next time higher L offer. No, this was quite a performance. I staggered to to imagine. What if this guy had actually been a high level professional what he would have actually done to announce his retirement? I don't wanna no I don't either actually you can find the sports writing of Charlie peers at Sports Illustrated, and he joins us each week here at only a game. Thanks, charlie. Nice caring. On October seventh nineteen sixty eight more than fifty thousand fans packed tiger stadium for game five of the World Series between the Detroit Tigers and the Saint Louis cardinals before the first pitch a twenty three year old singer named Jose Feliciano took the field to sing the national anthem. What happened next would change Feliciano's life for better? And for worse. Reporter Roger Weber's starts at the beginning. Jose Feliciano's life began in Puerto Rico congenital glaucoma left him blind at birth five years later, he moved with his family to New York City. He learned to play the accordion, and then mastered, a ten dollar Stella guitar to me, it meant everything because it took me a while to learn to play it because I taught myself how many hours a day. Would you spend practicing on the tar fourteen hours when I get home from school? That's why weren't to the dollar mmediately. And I tuned in to American bandstand, and I would play with whatever records they played at that time. Jose started playing coffeehouses in Greenwich Village than clubs around the country in nineteen sixty eight. He won two Grammys and his version of the doors light my fire rocketed to number three on the charts. That year. He also caught the attention of someone in the Detroit Tigers organization about this young Poder bacon, bind who had burst on this thing. He had a big that's the league Tigers announcer, Ernie Harwell speaking in two thousand nine video recorded by the Detroit Free Press Harwell was an amateur songwriter. So Tigers general manager Jim Campbell had tasked him with recruiting anthem singers for the three World Series games in Detroit for games three and four everything went according to plan, I nightclub singer Margaret whiting took the field. Then it was Motown star Marvin Gaye. The Campbell went to me and set now which placed talk the Marvin and asked him not to give too much of a soul read dishes. So I did. And he said, yeah, housing it straight. I. Dude, Ernie her will ever ask you to sing the anthem straight. No, no. You referring to do it the way one exactly you never taught. He didn't have a chance to talk to me, which I'm glad of. Because if I'm told not to do something, I'll do it. Anyway. How much time did you have to work on your version of the anthem? I had been working on a version of the anthem. Oh, at least a year before that. But it was totally radical and different than what I did. And I said, well Jose, you know, what maybe you shouldn't be so radical and do it a little bit easier for them to listen to know that you weren't messing around with the anthem. Fleshy on walked with his service dog to centerfield settled on a stool and cradled his guitar. Jack him out of nowhere. You know, we weren't expecting anything different than that's former Tigers pitcher John Hiller. And we said oh my God Ernie. What did you do? I mean Philo pitcher John warden was standing near Hiller on the third baseline. We can't what's that? What's he doing? And everybody's looking around at each other. And you could hear the fans as sort of near that background rumble. Well, I heard some jeers, but they were they were very sparse. And I heard a lot of booze. And I said, wow. What did I do? Why are they bullying me? You know, when did you really get an the idea that there was a controversy? Well, when I went to my seat because I I watched a couple of innings I had to head back to the airport and back to Las Vegas. I was thinking to myself. Wow. What did I do? And Tony Kubek who was the broadcast then came to me and said you've caused some commotion here. The phones for NBC at the network have been ringing, but some people in Detroit like fourteen year old Susan million loved hearing a new sound for the same old anthem. I was in class on the way home. I heard that something had happened at the ballpark. You know, people were talking on the streets on the porch. Is along the way when I got home during the news, they showed a clip of this guy playing guitar and singing the anthem as no one had ever heard. And it was like, wow. This is cool. You know, there was so much negativity that I thought was unnecessary uncalled-for unfair. I dunno fourteen year old what do they do back in those days? If you're me start a fan club. We'll get back to Susan a million later. Why did you sing the anthem the way you did? Because I was sick and tired of hearing it the old way and the audience kind of not being into it. Get to the end of the song and the audience would start clapping as if to say thank God. This thing is passed. And I got tired of that. I did. I really really did. And I said, I'll fix it. Well, it fix me for a while. You know, my records were stopped people at Ed radio station. Stop playing my records. They wanted to deport me. You know, but you can't deport a citizen of the United States. But it was funny to me. I thought what the hell am I going to go? Best forward fifty years to September eighth. Two thousand eighteen was eight Feliciana was in Detroit the sing the anthem again. Tigers reunion before going to the ballpark. He met fans in a crowded room at the Detroit historical museum as Feliciano answered. Their questions is wife sat in the front row. Grazing. Sometimes I know things. I do but I do. I do what I do everything. I do Susan. I do it for you. And this is where we get back to that better and worst part because Susan Susan million is the same Susan who started the fan club for Jose Feliciano back in nineteen sixty eight she met Jose three years after his historic anthem performance in Detroit. By the end of the week. He was having dinner at my house, and we went to Bob below. And he was pork park. And my dad was in the hospital at the time. And so he wanted to visit him so he brought a guitar and gave him a little little concert at at the hospital. Thirty six years. We married on our Levin anniversary of having become friends have three children and Feliciano rebounded. After that, sixty eight performance his long career has produced forty five. Gold and platinum records. A few hours after his appearance at the museum Feliciano arrived at Comerica park. He walked to a stage near second base to perform before a Tigers regular season game against the cardinals. He were Tigers jersey with Feliciano sixty eight on the back. Oh, see. You see? What should like for you to see him perform the anthem again fifty years later? Oh, goodness. It was a really important moment. Because. It defined his life in such a negative way for so long. It was magnificent. I wanted my town to let him know how they really filled how we all is a people really feel. I think we've grown since. Since nineteen sixty eight and so we've gone full circle. Homeowner who? Bree. I love you. The mission was about the same as the performance from fifty years ago, but he wasn't using the Qatar from nineteen sixty eight it had been donated to the Smithsonian national museum of American history. A few months earlier on that day. Twenty people from seventeen nations took the oath of citizenship. Congratulations to each of you. Feliciano gave a new Americans message. It was in his heart long before his nineteen sixty eight World Series performance. I welcome you all with open arms, and this is America. And America will always be great because of the people that come to it and make their home here. Thank you so much and congratulations. That story was written and narrated by Roger Weber and produced by Zack Rosen a longer version aired on the podcast mismatch. We'll have a link at only a game dot org. Only a game is produced by Martin Kessler, and Gary Wallich with help from Nico imac and Matthew stock. Our technical director is marquee Neil. Our senior producer is me. I'm Karen given only a game returns next week. Thanks for listening.

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Scott Hamilton, Pickleball in Jail, Pete Rose's Trip To Vietnam

"This is only a game. I'm carrying given reporter. Alice Coke has known figure Skater Scott Hamilton since they were kids. They're both from the Midwest I they both grew up in ice rinks and they were both Olympians. Scott has an Olympic gold medal. Alice says she was just happy to make the team. Here's Alice when I ask Scott Hamilton to introduce himself. There was no mention of his Olympic. Pick glory as usual Scott was his humble self deprecating self. Tell me who you are and what you do. That's complicated. I know who I am. My name is Scott Hat scovill Hamilton and why did skating for a long time and now I'm doing a lot more volunteer work in cancer fundraising Skating Academy and <hes>. I've got four kids so my dad so that's what I do that a lot. It's more than enough figure. Skaters tend to be physically smaller than most winter Olympic Athletes Scott was especially small when he laced up his first pair of skates when and how did gear parents realised something might be wrong. I was always small but it became obvious that I wasn't growing very well and then it became obvious that I wasn't growing at all and then it became obvious that I was showing some signs of stress and so for about four years I was in and out of hospitals and <hes> they couldn't come up with a diagnosis Scott wasn't growing and food didn't help so as doctors turned to something unconventional my supplement back then and they didn't know what they were doing. They're just trying to keep me alive. Was this liquid that was just really nutritious but it was actually tasted like chalk and I hated it and so pretty soon I became sort of a pathological liar and very manipulative and I would say that I was going to drink it in the bathroom and I would dump it out every single time and once I got caught. My Mom caught me dumping it out and I basically told her. I wasn't going to drink it anymore anymore. Because it was awful and we came up with a compromise of putting a tube up through my nose down my esophagus and I was fed through the nose tube so I never had to taste that junk again and it was the perfect compromise compromised the best compromise so I always knew that you know I was different than all the other kids just because of my height and my you know just sort of the way that I grew up mostly in hospitals after seeking the opinion of a number of doctors Scott saw specialist at Boston Children's Hospital Asia's said I can't diagnosis he said go home. You just go home. Take him off. All the restrictive diets keep them on the supplement and live normal life Scott Scott wouldn't get a real diagnosis until several decades later and more major health scares but with the doctor's advice and hand Scott's mom and dad took their nine year old son to the brand new ice facility at Bowling Green State University. I walk again. Everybody's looking at this nose to coming out and they're just looking at me like gross. That's like well. This is me I say so. What was it like skating for the first time for everybody else right you get into some rental skates and they don't fit right? They don't feel good. They don't really like they're wobbly and you know you're hanging onto the wall and then after a while you know you're able to get around without touching the wall and then pretty soon you're able to get around pretty good and I realized in that process of getting better that I found something I could do as well as the well kids and then I found I could do something as well as the best athletes in my grade in and it was really powerful powerful because it was the first ever taste of self esteem I never felt good about myself until that Scott would later come to believe skating saved his life but at this point he was just a kid having fun on the ice but it was is one of those things where I started to grow and I started to develop again and I started getting veteran so my parents were okay. We found something that works by accident mind you but we found something that works and <hes> we're just GonNa Stick Dick with this. The expensive figure skating put a drain on the family's finances but Scott's mother found a way to pay for the coaching the skates and the ice time you know she was a strong lady you know she was five foot and a quarter as she. It's tell people when you're that small you WANNA like at every quarter inch right I get that Oh man she sacrificed everything for me and my brothers and sisters. She never really bought herself any clothes. She was the person <hes> on this world that I loved more than any other and I just <hes> you know I just adored her. Scott was just a teenager when his mother was diagnosed with breast cancer her chemotherapy descriptions were hilarious. You know she'd say Oh. This chemotherapy is wonderful. I finally found a way to lose all this weight. I like chemotherapy. I wanted to quit smoking all these years and now I have no desire and she said I love Chemo. I've always hated my hair these wigs or so much easier so she always made it okay. Dorothy Hamilton passed away in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven and when you're eighteen years old you don't have anything to compare this life event to and it's devastating you know so I I kind of had to go for a walk in my backyard in that walk. I kinda came to sort of a game plan of taking her with me. Wherever I went you know she always wanted me to be a really good skater and she always thought that you know someday? I'd go to the Olympics and all that junk and it's like yeah really based on what you know my last last place finish or really in the last competition she saw me scared and I was an epoch disaster. I came in ninth nationals and then after that I just had to get to work and if I didn't feel like showing up for a session I did it because I wanted to honor her Scott moved to Denver Colorado to train with renowned coach Don laws. He found a sponsor to take care of everything from training expenses to his housing. His skating took off from there Scott was chosen to carry the flag for team U._S._A.. At the one one thousand nine hundred eighty Olympic opening ceremony in Lake Placid New York he finished fifth and then about I guess a month later the top three guys all retired so all of a sudden like I was ranked second in the world so for the next for years I never really lost. I never lost quite Scott. Hamilton won three consecutive world championships in Nineteen eighty-four. He took home an Olympic gold medal. Nobody could stop him. It is now in standing new Olympic podium after four years of of really just winning every competition. It was Kinda like what in the world just happened and you feel Oh really good that had a dream that you never thought to dream has come true and I just I felt bad that my mom wasn't there to see it but she was really the main reason that it happened. Scott returned home to a hero's welcome in Denver after a ticker tape parade with a freshly minted gold medal around his neck Scott was invited to a private meeting with Governor Richard Lamm you know. I usually with politicians. It's a photo op at it's this and it's that and <hes> when I arrived in his office it was just he and me and I thought this is really weird. I I don't know what to make of this and he said I just really wanted to talk to you and give you some advice and he said there's this thing called the hometown hero syndrome and basically you can look at it as if you know let's say you're the quarterback for the High School Football Team and you threw a bomb to win the state championship at the end of the game and they carry you off the field on their shoulders. You kind of feel like the rest of your life should be that way right and picture and all this and he goes you just I lived through an extraordinary period of your life but I really want you to enjoy every moment with the true understanding that your life isn't always going to be this way and in that moment and I realized that he was giving me an extraordinary gift is like really somebody thinks enough of another human being to kind of almost arm them for kind of the inevitability of next next right Scott went onto create stars on ice tour that brought together the best gators in the world they performed for huge audiences in major cities. It became an amazingly successful business. Venture Scott was the star and also so the bus but he wasn't very happy he felt stressed all the time and I realized that life was out of balance in I had such bad abdominal pain that fifty cities in no sixty city tour. I went into an emergency room in Peoria Illinois because it was about a block from the hotel just to get you know <hes> some ulcer medicine or whatever was going on. I just you know I never thought of anything besides stress related symptoms and and the doctor Victor just said there's a mass and <hes> I kind of chuckled in the beginning is what's so funny and I just well you know honestly nobody's ever used the word mass in description me before and he <hes> he said no no. It's you take this thing seriously and I was like why why and I just realized it was like twenty years almost to the month that I lost my mom to cancer and now I'm being diagnosed with cancer. At thirty eight years. Old Scott started his treatment for testicular cancer answer at the Cleveland Clinic. He went through months of chemotherapy. He says sometimes he look in the mirror and hate what he saw but he took on his cancer battle with the kind of attitude he learned from his mother. You know she always found a way to make something difficult okay and in that she she armed me. Would that same thing it's I was able to create an environment of of levity my nurse basically treatment me. I can eight year old. You know I had like Scooby Doo and Spongebob bandaids and she decorated my chemo bags and she she really she treated me like a pediatric patient and it was really fun Scott Healthy and return to life on the ice and in the broadcast booth breath he got married and became a father life was good until the fall of two thousand four. I was symptomatic and so they did some blood work and they found that I had like trace amounts of testosterone in my bloodstream knows like well you know it's probably an after effect of your chemo and your cancer. It's like no I don't. I don't think that's it like well. You know you're older. Now I go now. I don't think that's it and so I finally described my symptoms enough in detail where they put me in forehead scan. I was diagnosed with a brain tumor. They I knew I was going to be dealing with this thing immediately if not sooner but my wife was arriving that day and so <hes> I went back to the hotel and they were just pulling up to the front of the hotel and she goes what they say ghat say up in the room and so we kind of awkward sort of quiet riot in the elevator you know and then up into the room and she goes what's going on and I mean how do you how do you tell your wife that you know you're up against it again right and I just said I I have a brain tumor and she without even like one beat <hes> passing <hes> She just grabbed both my hands and she started to pray and it was the the single most powerful moment in my life because I felt the calm I felt the power of that moment. I felt the the clarity of that moment. You know it just was this awakening different kind awakening where now I knew I was going to be okay. No matter what I knew I was going to be okay. Scott was ready to tackle the brain tumor but first doctors had to take a biopsy which is digging a hole in the top of my skull and taking a biopsy needle through my brain where a lot of really super bad things could have happened and I remember. They told me I could lose speech memory motor function Blah Blah Blah do this procedure. I woke up at ten twenty. Yeah I knew who I was where I was while I was there and then I just sort of like leaned over limit test like oh I can speak okay. I guess the surgery went okay and then the doctor came in smiling and my wife Tracy came in smiling and I go I think we know what it is and I go. What is it and they go cranial fringe Elma? It's like what's a lunatic fringe Yoma. I have no idea what you're talking about so they gave my wife some literature on the brain tumor and she read it and she said Said Oh wow this is this cranial fringe Yomas our brain tumors. A child is born with that usually show themselves due to a lack of growth and development and I was like whoa that that is crazy so it's like a joke now. It's like I guess if you live long enough. All questions will be answered and so that was my childhood illness. Scott says he's grateful that doctors didn't discover the tumor humor when he was a kid. He says he had gotten a craniotomy. Fifty years ago. His life would have looked very different in two thousand ten Scott had a second brain surgery to prevent the recurrence of the benign tumor in two thousand sixteen. He learned it had returned. The doctors are giving me all the different scenarios we could do surgery again we could do <hes>. There's a medical thing that will shrink it and keep it at bay here. The side effects and Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah and all I felt and it was almost like a voice in my head said get strong and I was like okay. I don't know what this means. I don't know what's going on but I I know I am supposed to get strong and the doctor said so. How would you like to proceed indeed and I say I don't you know since you caught this thing on a general scan without symptoms? We're just GONNA keep an eye on it. My Gut says keep an eye on it. Instead Surgery Scott decided to make some dietary and lifestyle changes he gave up red meat and sugar and I went back a few months later for another skin and it hadn't grown and that was the best news that they could possibly give me until the next scan where I went back and it shrunk without treatment and they couldn't figure that out and then I went back in shrunk again and it was all they all. They said there was whatever you're doing being keep doing it. You Know Scott now lives in Tennessee with his wife Tracy and four children. He stays close to the ice with his skating school and dedicates a lot of his time to fundraising for cancer research. Now I look in the mirror and I see. All the scars from all the different injuries and surgeries and all the other things and and I look at them differently than I thought I would. I you know normally look at scars his like disfigurements and I look at them as as you know sort of badges of honor you know it's like that skin is tougher than it's ever been and it will never be hurt the same way it was before the story came from reporter Alex Cook Scott Hamilton's. Most recent book is titled Finished First Winning Changes. Everything Roger Belair teaches the game of pickle ball in imprisons. I know one situation were wanting. It may screamed at another. I beat the hell out of you but if I did I couldn't play pickle ball well. How wonderful is that? That story is coming up on only a game from N._p._R.. 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You should know we're going to start this week with Kansas City chiefs wide receiver tyreek Hill who has not been suspended despite this audio released back in April of hill and his ex fiancee arguing about their three year old son he's terrified of you and can you say that he respects you but it's not it's not respect its terrified. He is TERI terrified of two. I'm joined by the Wall Street. Journal's Rachel Bachman and The Washington Post Jerry brewer welcome back talked about the view great to be here. Karen bakes having Jerry. You're up first wow the N._F._l.. Has Long had an issue with the violence of his athletes and particularly violence toward women and in this case you're you're talking in about an allegation of child abuse by tyreek Hill one of the best players in the N._F._l.. And his speed makes Kansas City which may be the favourite to win the super bowl dynamic electric it gives them an edge but but keeping with the N._F._L.'s inconsistent policies on player conduct <hes> they've decided not to suspend them because they don't have enough evidence. The question is are they doing the fair thing. Are they copying out well okay. This is what I don't understand. Maybe Jerry can help me out here N._F._l.. Contracts generally are not guaranteed Ryan and so players can be cut for not returning their tray at the cafeteria or having less zip on their long snaps or something thing so it sort of boggles my mind that when there's an allegation of domestic violence or abuse against children all of a sudden we have C._S._i.. Miami and the N._F._l.. And the teams are saying well. We don't have enough evidence and you know this is not the Supreme Court. You have a lot of latitude about what you can do with players so why not take a strong stand here well Jerry. I'm GonNa let you speak to that. I because you make the point in your column this week that if the chiefs didn't pick up hell someone else would have frye right. Yes <hes> unfortunately a lot of N._F._l.. Teams use this as a market inefficiency as a matter of fact tyreek. Hill is a one time convicted of domestic abuse. The Kansas City chiefs still bill drafted him in the fifth round because they felt like we were getting a first or second round talent in the fifth round so they use that as a competitive advantage yeah at this point. I've gotten past being surprised that teams keep hiring hiring these guys because it's happened so many times I am a little surprised by how quickly journalists and fans seem to have moved on from that audio from Tyreek Hill like let's face it when movie Fan said Ed we're not gonNA watch movies with sexual predators in them. Hollywood stopped hiring actors who were sexual predators at least for now but the same thing hasn't happened in the N._F._l.. There hasn't been a groundswell of chiefs season ticket holder saying that they'll give up their tickets. Their team continues to play a guy who may or may not have broken his three year olds arm Jerry. Is that what it's going to take for the N._F._l.. To come up with some sort of consistent response to this I think as much as people challenge authority you fall in line with accepted behavior by and large football is the number one sport in America by long shot and if you have a commissioner that saying we are concerned about this but not to the level that we are going to fundamentally change change the way we operate in the League that sends a message to your fans that it's okay to resume business as usual and not care about this issue and that is the great concern all right Rachel Europe okay well and Happier News <hes> the the U._S.. Women's soccer team is back in the U._S.. Every player on that team plays in the National Women's Soccer League which is the current pro league seven season under its belt. The games with returning players have set some attendance. His Records Portland had twenty two thousand. It's game on Wednesday night <hes> but there is a cautionary tale. Pass titles have also helped previous professional women's soccer leagues in the U._S.. But inevitably the crowds have sort of fallen off from there in in fact two previous leagues have folded and so my question to you guys is who is responsible this time for making sure this league lasts is at the players is league management which is supported by the U._S.. Soccer Federation is it the media which has not historically given a lot of coverage to pro women's soccer or is it the fans who you know can can vote with their pocketbooks. I think it's all of the above speaking about it from a media perspective you know this was the story in sports for two weeks and then they come back and you get kind of a week of celebration and everybody kind of forgets about it. I do think as these players go back to their teams in the league that it warrants a little better coverage however I think the League League has to be better about the way that it promotes itself and in general we have to give it time. It's going to take at least twenty five years to figure out whether a leak and Amazon. It's going to take at least fifty years before a league really gets so the point in which is starting to thrive so we have to keep that in mind. I hadn't thought of it in those terms but certainly that's how long it took for the N._F._l.. And all those other leagues to make it really work. We are seeing women's soccer. Make big strides in popularity in Europe. Twenty thousand people attended the Champions League final in Hungary this year but those advances are really being made with the support of their men sides here in the U._S.. It's not not like there's a huge surplus of money that the M._l._S. can really share so. I wonder if there is an investment to be made into women's soccer in this country. Where does the money come from well? I think what you're talking about has happened happened in small doses here and there I mean Portland for instance is the absolute gold standard of women's soccer and I think it's no coincidence that it also has a very robust <hes>. M._l._S. team in the Portland Timbers so let's look at the rest of M._l._S. Amine Atlanta certainly <hes> I. I think they would have a good chance to at a women's side and already have a big fan base built in because <hes> the men's team is so popular so I think that if really ambitious owners <hes> look at opportunities like that they could really grow their portfolios folios cool all right so I want to take us all the way to South Korea and the swimming World Championships Fina the sport's governing body has issued warnings to Australia's Mac Horton and Britain's Duncan Scott for refusing to share the podium with Chinese swimmer soon young soon was suspended in two thousand fourteen for taking banned heart medication more recently. He's accused of making testers wait outside his home for more than an hour refusing to give a urine Marin sample and then he or probably his bodyguard apparently smashed the blood sample so it could not be tested. The case is being appealed and soon is allowed to compete in the meantime and the other athletes are making ensure that everyone remembers what soon is accused of doing U._S._A.. Today's Nancy Armor calls it a rebellion Bob Bowman best known for coaching Michael Phelps. All those years says quote win prominent athletes speak up. That's it's win. Real change can happen Rachel. What do you make of all this well? I have to say these women world championships are the most dramatic I can recall in recent memory but this is really just an extension of a trend. We're seeing I think across boards where athletes athletes are really speaking out and they're frustrated at the lack of true punishment <hes> after doping violations. There's a group called Global Athlete that was founded in the past year really as a reaction to a lack of sanctions after the twenty fourteen Russian doping thank scandal and in Sochi. I think it's actually a good sign that you're seeing athletes. <hes> sometimes make some noise and be disruptive because they feel like hey if we don't have basic fairness and our sports and what do we have. You know what what becomes of us yet. There's this this sort of unwritten thing in sports in which I it goes back to refereeing. If you aren't going to control the game the players are going to take matters into their own hands to control it. I do however worry at times times in in these issues if there is not a bid of xenophobia that can take place in terms of you know oh Chinese swimmers always do this so we're going to show them up. That's always a concern to me. However I think for the most part that these swimmers are just they're not out of line and I think they're motivated by the fact that they want better leadership and a fair pool essentially my guess for this week's addition of three stories you should know have been the Wall Street Journal's Rachel Bachman and the Washington Post's Jerry Brewer? Thanks to both of you thank you Karen Bass Roger Belair player is a seventy two year old from Edmonds Washington in two thousand eleven. He Fell in love with a sport called pickle ball. You know here was a sport was very easy to learn is easy on the joints is great. Exercise is incredibly social. Somebody once said is more social sports since skinny dipping and most importantly is fun in pickle ball teams have to face off on an undersized tennis court and hit a wiffle ball with oversized ping pong paddles. Almost everybody can play this from nine years old up to I played with people over ninety years old Roger Travels the country teaching the sport at retirement homes high end destination spas and inside jails and prisons only NIA GAMES NICO IMAC has the story Roger Belair wasn't always focus on criminal justice reform but when he was watching sixty minutes segment about Cook County jail in Chicago the county sheriff. Tom Dart says the jail has become a dumping ground for the poor and mentally ill if they're going to make it so that I am going to be the largest mental health provider. We're going to be the best ones we're going to treat as a patient why they're here. We are going to think differently. I thought to myself you know this'll be terrific. Sport that I love introduced inside the prison system it will give the people an opportunity to get some exercise and also learn life skills like learning from mistakes thinking about consequences being in a good teammate not to mention the most popular sport on the Inside Is basketball but you have young aggressive men and as you can imagine once they get on the court. There's a lot of injuries. There's some people that even want eliminate basketball from from been being played on the inside Roger. Pickle ball was the perfect alternative so in two thousand seventeen he decided to write a letter to Cook County America's largest jail asking the teach pickle ball to the detainees his family. We thought he was delusional. They said this time you've lost it. You've lost before but this time it's really over the top and not only that but you can go ahead and you can write <hes> Sheriff Dart a letter but don't even expect a report boy Roger wrote the letter anyway he says Sheriff Tom Dart had never heard of pickle ball but over dinner that night mentioned it to his eight year old daughter and she said something like Oh Dad. You're so out of it. I'll tell you about pickle ball a few few weeks. Later Roger was inside the walls of Cook County. It was the first time I've ever been in prison and it's very unsettling. Prisons are very tough on the inside. You know it's not a friendly environment. There's no after people are in there for serious crimes. I was particularly nervous. Once I stood up in front of the men and started telling them what the game was wasn't getting much of a positive reaction. I spoke to a thirty four year-old detainee at Cook County who is charged with murder. He tells me how pickle ball hoops give them something. Look forward to how it takes the stress away and how it makes them want to do better. Roger doesn't shy away from the reality that he works with violent men accused of unsettling crimes but that's what drives his work. If guys don't behave they can't play I. I know one situation were winning. It may screamed at another. I beat the hell out of you but if I did I couldn't play pickle ball well. How wonderful is that? I know another situation where two guys were out on the court. They gave each other high fives and then realize that they belong to opposite gangs after his success at Cook County Roger was invited to teach pickle bought rikers island in Washington state penitentiary. He's far from a bleeding heart but he understands the reality that ninety five percent of inmates will be released at some point <music>. They'RE GONNA be out on our freeways are going to be in our shopping. Malls are going to be in <hes> parks. Where kids are playing? We can make them better. People on Inside Is GonNa make a safer for all of us once. They're on the outside Roger plans to continue. Can you traveling the country teaching the game. He loves one correctional institution that a time. I don't know how far this is gonna go but Johnny appleseed started one apple and if I can help the world become a better place by making it safer favor for all of this. That's exactly what I WANNA do. That story came from only a Games Nico E. Mack. We'd like to thank the Cook County leadership for their help with this story. We first heard about Roger Belair in an an article written by Scott gleason for U._S._A.. Today we'll have a link at only a game that Moore in nineteen sixty seven pete rose was asked by someone in the U._S.. State Department to go on a U._S._O.. A tour of Vietnam at first he refused then he said would Joe Dimaggio's gone and I said sign me up that's coming up and remember to follow us on facebook and twitter at only game and he are. The U._S. Women's soccer team. Just went its Fourth World Cup and it has been way more successful than the men's team yet. The women say they are paid less than half of what the male soccer players are and now they're suing for equal pay find out more about this on on the indicator from N._p._R.. I'm Karen Given next week on only game the pro video Gamer who says N._B._A.. Two K. 's saved his life but now Charlie Pierce here with the week's News Hi Charlie a Hi Karen I'm really glad had I was not watching the game between the raise the red sox on Wednesday afternoon because if I had been watching I'm quite sure I would've been bored and maybe a little bit angry. How about you <hes> yeah? It's I'm still unclear as to what exactly happened happened here but we had a very long stretch of managers trying to be clever and umpires trying to think which is never a good combination well all told the game was delayed for nearly twenty minutes while the umpire tried to figure out whether rays manager Kevin cash made an illegal substitution the sox finished the game under protest and in the end neither team scored so none of it really mattered anyway. Who Do we blame for all this guy than Kevin cash the Tampa Bay manager sure I think he gets a little bit cute from time to time and Alex Cora's just that way and obviously the empire had no clue what was going on this horrible display of officiating came just a day after reports surfaced that the independent Atlantic League will stick stick with robot empires for the rest of the season of course the computer just calls balls and strikes? It doesn't adjudicate complicated lineup questions but still are you happy to see the robot up sticking around. I'm still terrified of the robot. Let's get to another story that scares me. Even more later on this was inevitable and by the way it's not gonna just be balls strikes. After a while you know that I mean they are gonNA call close plays with them sooner or later because once you let the robots in the robot takeover anybody's ever seen a movie that I just want the first time a pitch goes up in and gets too close to the batter for the robot arm to say danger will Robinson. I would pay money to see that I would. I would pay to go to games case. Zion Williamson has yet to play a single game in the N._B._A.. But he already has a shoe deal reportedly worth at least one hundred million dollars that breaks the record Lebron James set when he signed his rookie shoe deal for eighty seven million in two thousand and three. Are we just looking at inflation here or is it something more. I think it's inflation but I also think it's the media age. Zion Williamson is already a brand. I think it's very Nice Zion to stay with Nike considering that one of issues blew up on him would have signed with anyone but Nike after that seriously I would've signed with like strike right it's N._F._l.. Training Camp Time Charlie Sparta believe already. We're already there which means it's time to hear about all the guys who are holding out but instead. I'd like to talk about a guy who did show up. What do you make of Jacksonville cornerback? Jalen Ramsey's ride to camp. I mean I guess it's an armored car looks at brinks truck doc. It's time to get that money well. It was actually his hype man who said that and I can't help myself. I need to play a clip. The Modern Ramsey had been hoping for a contract extension this year instead he'll be playing out the fourth year of his contract for just three point six three million then the team has a fifth year option then there's the franchise tag. What do you think he'll do to show his displeasure next year or the year after his show up in a Bradley fighting vehicle? Maybe I don't know we are less than one year out from the Tokyo Olympics Charlie which means it's time for various unveilings and I was going to ask you about the Plethora of robots that will be put into use including one that will carry javelins. 's onto the field but instead. I'd like to know what you make of the Olympic medals made from recycled Michael Mobile phones yeah. That's a little bit Chintzy. I think it's very good for the environment probably but as we talked about earlier I'm pretty sanguine about the robot dumps. I think arming new robots is a really bad idea. I'm sitting way up in the seats because I don't know what kind of arms these robots have but we may have an advocate on our side in the t dash H._r.. Three humanoid robot which is going to have what is called remote interactions with athletes. I've had a number of those in my career and finally Charlie Kyrie. Irving has unveiled his news special edition Shoe Line and is it just me or do these new designs seem a little fishy. I yeah we got a little spongebob action going here. The Nike Kyrie X. Spongebob Squarepants Collection was made for a hypothetical trip to Bikini bottom or an I._R._A.. L. Trip to the gym people actually get paid to write this stuff but anyway all the characters there <hes> they each got their own shoe. Yeah Spongebob Says Yellow and red you know they will sell these to a lot of kids. I'm just sorry that they didn't come along when I was a kid so I could have rocky and bowling sneakers. I think those were degrade too early. Pierce joins US each week at this time on only Nia game. Thanks Charlie. Thanks Karen these Thursdays. Pete rose is known as much for his lifetime ban from baseball imposed in nineteen eighty nine as for his brilliant twenty four year playing career rose initially denied allegations that he gambled on Baseball Games while he was manager of the Cincinnati Reds but in two thousand four he publicly admitted to having done it but decades before rose became a cautionary tale he was a military man at first rose didn't see combat up close but that changed in nineteen sixty seven only games. Gary Wallet has the story Peter Edward Rose joined the army reserves in nineteen sixty three after his rookie season with the Cincinnati reds during the Vietnam Tom War it was somewhat common for pro athletes to join the reserves to avoid the draft rose did his basic training at Fort Knox Kentucky One day the twenty two year old was on kitchen patrol and I got a call from Jack Lang in New York. Lang was executive secretary of the Baseball Writers Association of America and he told me I was national league rookie of the year. I was actually waxing the floor of the mess hall. Wow that's happened to any other national league rookie of the year. I doubt it very much a few years later. Rose was a reservist in the four Seventy Eighth Engineer Battalion at Fort Thomas Kentucky right across the river from Cincinnati. He served there along with some guy named bench John and I we've become cooks. We couldn't cook but we've become cooks because you would get off early. We still go the ballpark and playing the Games that were in Cincinnati. If we end become cooks we'd had a state Oh four thirty five o'clock and we missed all the day games now. Can you imagine me cooking you lunch while rose peeled potatoes and tallied hits that would someday total a major league best four thousand two hundred fifty six. He kept a close eye on what was happening thousands of miles away somewhere in this jungle there several hundred north Vietnamese soldiers who could wipe out this little. l'americain unit to the last man in an unguarded moment rose new there was little chance he and his reserve unit would be deployed but late in the nineteen sixty seven baseball season. He got another phone. Call someone from the State Department. I really don't remember his name S._e._A.. What I like to go to Vietnam in my first answer was hell? No there's a war going on there. The State Department wanted rose to go on a U._S._O.. Tour are to help boost troop morale then he said Joe Dimaggio's going and I said do I get to meet. You said You got deliberating for twenty three days and I said sign me up. You didn't need a lot of persuading in that though ought to meet Joe Dimaggio a good enough for Joe Dimaggio has got to be good enough for me. Dimaggio had retired twelve years before rose made the big leagues but rose was obsessed with the Yankees run of world series wins and Joe's fifty fifty six game hitting streak the guy from the State Department said he could talk about baseball with Joe but you Knesset him any questions about Marilyn Monroe. Don't talk about Marilyn Monroe. Don't mention Marilyn Monroe in late October nineteen sixty seven rose flew to San Francisco to meet with the others who'd be visiting the troops in Vietnam the group mad at Dimaggio's fisherman's warf restaurant and then Joe arrived Joe the Maggio when he walked in a room lit up the room lit up everybody Kinda beamed when they were in the presence of Joe Dimaggio by the Sixties Dimaggio had earned a reputation as cranky and aloof up to the general public but I couldn't believe the humbly was how nice he was and what did Joe Tell you about the impending tour Vietnam he just stick with me. Kid you'll be all right after a twenty twenty hour flight to Guam and another long flight to Saigon rose visited a U._S.. Army hospital and then we'll show to Maggio so humble shaking hands with everybody just so friendly to everybody I mean it made me feel good just watching him be nice. Though Soldiers Dimaggio had enlisted in the army in nineteen forty three he never saw combat himself but he knew a bit about what combat soldiers experienced so in Vietnam the soldiers here's where his sole focus he was better off to feel new was on the field. There was nobody better on the field. Jews demeanor was calm and cool as he chatted with G._I.'s who'd suffered horrific injuries but then we went next door to the Viet it Kong hospital where we had <hes> captured soldiers that were getting worked on getting fixed up and it was air conditioned. They hit air conditioner. We didn't I haven't been able to independently confirm that detail detail about the air conditioning but rose says that's the only time he saw Dimaggio upset on the entire trip. He was pissed while they were in Saigon rose says he and Dimaggio also met with two four star Star generals who commanded U._S. forces in Vietnam from nineteen sixty four to nineteen seventy-two William Westmoreland and Creighton Abrams and they were excited about meeting Joe Dimaggio. You know when you got four stars. Is it almost down on their knees. You know you're some special. After a short stay in the relative safety of Saigon the other three headed north rose says he and Dimaggio travelled south to the Mekong Delta and into an extremely hot war zone. You know we spent a week and a half down in the jungle of Vietnam you know intense sweep and bags gunships with every fourth bullet a tracer out the helicopters. You can't sleep because of the mortars going off and you realize there's a war going on there in. It's a mile from where you are Rosen. Dimaggio dressed in fatigues and carried phony I._D.. Cards we were Jesus Jesus G._S. fourteen. I think we were colonels. We had to carry that card in our back pocket saying we were G._S.. fourteens a case we got captured rose says that if he and measured didn't have those is I._D.. Cards and if they'd fallen into enemy hands the Viet Cong would have assumed they were spies and they would have been shot on site is a pleasant thought now in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven pete rose's star was still rising. The soldiers knew him but as far as rose was concerned the U._S._O.. Tour was the joe show they travelled mostly by helicopter. Rose says he mused to himself that if they're chopper went down every story would be about Joe Dimaggio but Joe wasn't afraid or if he was he didn't show it and I stuck right by man for twenty three days. I didn't leave his site. Rose has one day he and Dimaggio arrived arrived in a town called kind neum not long after a fierce firefight and I remember we were walking down the street and her Roy six North Vietnamese soldiers that were killed in the battle and they were wrapped in bamboo. Do they were laying right in the middle of the street. Her feet were hanging out their heads. One hanging out with their feet were and I went up to where they were not touched one of them with my foot and the guy was would've said don't do that. Pete said why not he says because North Vietnamese soldiers they come back for their dead and all six of those guys are booby trapped so when they come back to get him. They'll get blown up but I didn't Yeah No. I'm a rookie of war. I spoke with a Harvard University history professor. He says he's seen references to the booby. Trapping Viet Cong soldiers by G is in literature about Vietnam rose says that being in Vietnam reinforced the feeling that more and more Americans had back home it was going to be hard for us to win at war because first of all you didn't who the hell you're fighting you wonder why are are we so far away from home. What are we fighting for a why we lose fifty eight thousand soldiers after about three weeks of meeting with troops Pete Rose and Joe Dimaggio left the Vietnamese mainland in a Navy fighter jet they landed on the U._S._S. intrepid just off the coast? They flew home from the South China Sea when they're U._S._O.. Tour ended the two went their separate ways rose went back to racking up hits and tearing up Major League base- paths have hi Tommy homes as time has thirty seven Dimaggio went back to being an American legend rose says he occasionally occasionally run into him a charity golf tournaments when that happened he says Joe was always friendly and cordial. Pete Rose Former Army Reservist M._L._B.. Hits leader banished baseball superstar four-star says he's glad he went to Vietnam in nineteen sixty seven. I wouldn't give up a trip for anything just to try to boost the soldiers and the hang around with a great player like show too Macho for twenty three days. Gosh don't get a better net. That story came from only a Games Gary Wallich Pete Rose's new book is titled Play Hungary the making of a baseball player <music> only a game is produced by Martin Kessler in Gary Wallich with help from Nico Mak.

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An Ode to the Black Mamba

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An Ode to the Black Mamba

"Welcome to manage your money with Malcolm where we were taking a moment to acknowledge the passing of Laker Great Mr Kobe Bryant and also the families of outs belly Mosser Chester and buy in families all involved in the tragic Los Angeles helicopter accident. That happened not too long ago There are lots of children which makes this especially difficult We'd like to send our prayers and thoughts from here manager. Damn money in Montgomery community media all the families involved Malcolm so when we think about Colby Bryant reason why we're talking about this in part because you and I both are Laker fans pretty dedicated. Laker fans When I think about Kobe Bryant I literally think about my childhood he. Kobe debuted in Nineteen ninety-six. For the Lakers and I was nine years old living in southern California. It was right at the transition from Vladivostok. Eddie Jones and Nick Van. Axel all those guys name. Some people like remember those guys swingman right indeed When it's transitioned into the shack and Kobe era And that carried on their dynasties three championships than the two championships powder. Salt and company All the way into Grad School for me at twenty three. And now we're back with. Lebron James where Lakers are prominence. Would or some of your thoughts when it comes to Kobe Bryant so kind of to your point like I I feel like I almost grew up with the do granted. He's you know ten years roughly Our senior but like from watching regular TV shows or music videos with in them and basketball aside just pop culturally relevant events. You see him show up. That was a big deal to back then. And then also like the the street ball Phenomenon I guess is the word at the time and ones and the Rucker Park phenomenon where you had folks like Kobe and Carmelo and I think Kevin Durant was probably the last class of guys to actually play outside like that but Kobe came straight from like fresh off the plane from philly dominated. One of those gains in like just culturally from like you said nine. Ten years old on do was always around basketball. Yeah definitely it's pretty shocking. Law I keep I still see the news and I still see like the stories and his face everywhere. It's still doesn't feel real to me. I guess the real sea to it. I feel like in different universe where this movie. And then it's GONNA come up. And we'll realize that it wasn't the case What do you think Malcolm that his life and specifically his work meant to millennials in particular. Well I think mass. That's a good question I think. A lot of millennials are about the same age as US slightly older slightly younger. That are saying the same thing. I've been seeing this dude on TV. I've been going games. I've been anywhere you turn around with basketball. Is Concerned the name? Kobe Bryant is as ubiquitous as Michael Jordan or Lebron James like regardless of where you fall on the hierarchy of who is better than those three names are basketball. And so when you just think about like the weight of like that impact on the sport is like Man. I think about when you talk about millennials. My friend was telling me a story and I think this was unrelated before the tragedy took place But he was talking about his daughter. Who's three and when she likes shoots a piece of trash she was like. She never saw Kobe play. But to your point about the victory of his name in particular I've had a lot of conversations with friends. What is your view of your conversation about processing all of this? I haven't really had that many conversations like so when the news broke I was sitting on the couch with my wife like watching. Tv and she happened to be like in the middle of a group chat conversation with her friends. And somebody like drop. The news headline in the groups like this is strange like why people trying to kill. Kobe off progressively became truer and truer than the that news outlets that are reputable. Bright Yang. Tmz All of a sudden people who actually are are respectable. News outlets reputable is the nice way to say it respectable but it became re-learn reeler in what was interesting is became quieter and quieter between us and living room sitting there like like this is real right you know and then all of a sudden we looked at each other. Why do we care so much like not that? You shouldn't care when there's a loss of life in general right anybody your family or person across the street but just in general. I've never met Kobe. Bryant before in my life never had a conversation with the gun on the phone or anything like that but I feel like personally impacted by this right so. It's just strange that like I haven't completely been able to process what this really means. Or why even feel the way I do toward it? Yeah I definitely said several years felt like a a I see your point. I couldn't really put my finger on what it was initially but I think at least thus far only recently removed from it And today where we sit here today talking about it. I think you know there was clearly through my life. An impact just through the level of excellence. That was there and that she was saying. And for me. The thing that I've taken away at least as far as that you know. Everyone knows what the Mama mentality met for Kobe. Bryant in terms of being in the gym at six. Am thousand shots and what that means for how translates on the court I think that means something in terms of everyone else pursuing their own goals with that same level of veracity. So I'm thinking for me like that's the thing that thus far I'm taking away like okay. You know you gotTa do it and if you WanNa do it you gotta do it. That way with that level of intensity So you know. I don't know it it'll be interesting. I think our generation particular generational cohort and those who watch those you know many laker games and washed his career is going to be a tough one to get there. I think it's especially tough because there's not anyone or anything necessarily to blame. So when for example Michael Jackson or prince died in the news came out it was like. Oh man that you know. Prince not Michael Jackson right and then a few minutes later is like key overdosed on drugs and say okay. I can immediately blame or rationally drugs or rationalize but in this scenario like dude just commuting take his daughter to basketball practice on his business so then I think there also becomes the realness of that right like the fact that even in going about your day to day minding your business being a good citizen for like all of us has a all of us have an expiration date at some point and so the realness of that I think also was. What's been made candidly? You know right there in your face by this old clothes within this for me. At least the immediate thought there is. There's just a part of me and I think the child part of me that feels like Kobe's everybody in the helicopters and we like we back like in the fourth quarter and it just doesn't feel like the correct final note on the situation And so you'd have to like realize like wow despite his greatness in in his particular area of work and then you know he did a whole bunch of stuff as a retired play a retired person in his career as an investor like Wiz last year three years after he was doing his thing as a father. I have three little girls myself. And so you know all that seem like you know it was just a dot dot dot and it's like I. This story can't in this way So I think it's certainly up to us in the world who are still here in Atlanta of the living to continue to do our work with that Mamba Mentality. I'm going with that. I remind you you're listening and watching manager Damn money we will be right back Thanks for listening to manage your money with Malcolm interested in more entertaining. Fare covering money millennials. Yourself to a copy of my book. Fictitious financial fairytale completely untrue story about money friends and Moscow mules available now on the brother. I mean Amazon is packed with laughs. Great on your living room coffee table. Enjoy the rest of the show. Welcome back to manage your money where we've just got through talking him out a little bit about Kobe. Bryant and we realized this week that the show had written was perfectly paired for Mister Bryant. He had become somewhat of a advocate. I think as of late last year's specifically as it pertains to his daughter Jonah playing basketball. He not too long before he went on. He said something to the effect of there are wnba players that play in the NBA. Right now Kobe was definitely on the train for. I have my suspicions that he was talking about. His own. Daughter is by the way possibly possibly Well you know. We thought that being the case are talk around women in sports leading the way in pay equity would be perfectly paired for this conversation today. I'm throughout the history of American sports. We've consistently seen as ability to vigorously pursue equality on the field and thus in everyday life be the raised fist of Tommie Smith and John Carlos. Standing on metal podiums at the nine hundred sixty eight Olympics or Mohammed. Ali's refusal to participate in the Vietnam War or Serena Williams admonishing a US Open Umpire. Sports continues to serve as a match. Lightning lighting the fire for social change in the United States. Much like the moments mentioned above. We are seeing another push this time by women athletes pushing the edges of what equity means in terms of their compensation for playing sports on this episode of. Manage your money. We are exploring how women's sports are leading the way in the fight for greater equity in pay in the workplace. And before we move on into this conversation. Malcolm it is really important that you and our viewing audience acknowledged my threads. I'm honoring the name in amazing fashion form. I got the Coby Coby Jersey. Yes indeed I am yes and also if you pan your view viewership to the bottom below the desk. I'm also wearing a pair of Kobe's okay. Not Recent ones have to take those out of the box or for the are they in a display case. So do you like these. I actually wore at in the basketball court at La Fitness many countless times. So you who is what you tell them. Once upon a time I could get on court and not look terrible. I don't know what I mean. That's a wide range like I said and I know you know this terminology. I'm listening when I said so. You who? That's a totally different conversation from on the court and take up space that's a totally different threshold. You've crossed the very wide. Go Get there. I can do more than take base. Ain't nobody GONNA be like. Oh we gotta get him either. It's like a nice little you want to be in the middle okay. You don't want to do this or you can be. But you certainly don't want to be a distraction where you're like. Don't pass the ball. That's not me see. I believe that this is completely off topic but since you took us there we're going there. I believe there should be a certain level of like requirement skill wise for you to be allowed to wear certain players on the court to play. Pick up basketball. So have you show up in Jordan's issue like automatically signified to me that you should be my first? Pick off the sideline with my new squad coming on the floor. I'm sure especially now. If you show up in some Kobe's it should be. You are about to shoot the lights out and I need you on my team so if you show up some you know some Dennis Rodman's or some you know some star. Berries shoes that were sold at sears. And show them some of those taking up space for something is there to take up. Space should be requirement to me. We're very well. That is a nice little scale that you just created there on the fly there. I'M THE PLEA. Hopefully somebody at a la fitness somewhere implement that So really what inspired the conversation around women in sports leading the way and pay equity? Wnba just had a new deal. Also do you remember Serena going at the? Us Open Empire. I think I think we talked about the hundred percent hundred percents but what by Naomi Asaka on that one. Yes getting worked however She was getting worked by the referee to and tennis similar to like an NFL. Football game like one specific bad call right has the ability to completely shift the momentum and completely shift the outcome of the match so I I completely understand and sympathize with her in that moment and still you know when folks talk about it and even in the moment you knew it represented something more than what it was. Just what was happening But as I mentioned the new WNBA deal will bring big salary increases. This was January. Twenty twenty piece on the Wall Street Journal by Rachel Bachman. The Women's National Basketball Association and the Women's National Basketball Players Association finalize a Labor Deal Tuesday. That was triple cash. Compensation for top players and boost the average league salary above six figures for the first time under the new eight-year crazy. Yeah it's Kinda Wild I was like. This is so like the minimum contract for an NBA player. The twelfth man down at the end of the bed. Who's taken a thing? It's like eight right. He's taking up space Nba Term Still Dog. You or me without any question. But then twelve man on at the end of the bench. But you can't tell if the assistant coach his minimum salaries eight hundred and ten thousand dollars or something which is why the worst guy on the team so for us to be talking about the best women's players right now seeing six for the first time ever absolutely ridiculous it is is and under the new eight year collective bargaining agreement the WNBA players will be able to earn more than five hundred thousand dollars a year. The average cash compensation players recently one hundred thirty thousand dollars resulting increase players from rookies to veterans. The agreement goes into effect the twenty twenty season and is a big victory for players but a time when the League has already faced questions about its financial stability the deal also creates pressure to raise revenues and to help fund the increases. So what was your initial reaction when you saw the news about town? That was really liked my so I had two reactions actually simultaneously or not so. I'm pretty sure I don't know if it's ever come up on the show or not actually but one of my wife's best friends plays WNBA. And so I'm very much tuned to some of the going zones of like their plights. You will actually plays overseas every summer. And they were sharing rooms amazing to me. What's I've never played basketball professionally in my life. If my boss said we need you been share a room on this trip going on this trip? Like how dare you so yes that that is but anyway so? I said all that to say like I've attended quite a few WNBA WNBA games in person right recently simply because we were invited by my wife's rent and so as I'm looking around like I'm looking at the numbers in like the attendance levels at the Verizon Center here in DC. And I'm like man like they're playing the the La sparks. I can't imagine what the crowd must look like for Connecticut or Phoenix with somebody like that. That's a lesser market with lesser known players. But like so immediately when I heard the news. I'm like how are they gonNA pay for that Like you know. It's great that you're raising the salaries of your players right. But then how you going to pay for that guarantee that you just made to those people on the team that going to be counting on that money. There's a bottom line to be taken care of Players in WNBA which completed its twenty third season in twenty nineteen opted out of the previous CVS when eighteen to seek higher pay and better working conditions. News came as athletes across women's sports. Are Lobbying for better pay and more investments in their league under the new deal? Wnba maximum salary based will rise to two hundred fifteen thousand dollars a year up from one. Seventeen that's wild to me. Even the new maximum would be a fraction of the seven figure salaries that top women players can earn plan in China Russia and Turkey but WNBA leaders hope. The salary bump encourages players to commit to the league rather than spending their off seasons playing overseas. The deal also includes and this is the big one a fifty fifty revenue share revenue sharing model starting with the twenty twenty twenty one season based on league revenue growth WNBA. Commissioner Cathy. Engelbert said conference call. The League will aim to draw more fans of yours to help make the deal work and that will try. Variety of things to broaden the revenue base he added our owners and our teams are making significant financial commitments under this agreement so amalgam. How do we understand the balancing act of gender pay pair parody? I guess you might say especially in a situation like this where the NBA produces far. Wnba produces far lower revenues than a sibling the NBA. Like you just you just outlined the quagmire and the situation women earn more money. How do we make the product worth that dollar amount? I think the answer could just be having more top talent on each team. So the game furred whatever criticisms you know you WANNA smack down. It's not as exciting from into in as the NBA game. Or so. When I say I mean in the audience in a fan folks are not standing up on their feet. Fifty percent of the time cheering the same way. They do it. Nba Okay and I think part of like a a solution for that could be where I don't mean necessarily the warriors team that's got ninety nine superstars on one team or used to write. I'm saying at least two players on each are offensive superstars in a way that make you go. Oh no like there's a lot of action happening and I don't want to miss anything. I'm trying to watch and said that point The League I think there was some of the I don't know how many exactly like eight or twelve there's some amount of teams in the WNBA. Now and a few years ago it was like more so they've got condensed shutdown some market right to your point. Maybe it's concentrating than the number of players. The talent so that more markets have opportunity to showcase. Their talent is interesting. So what does a pretty bitty revenue share say about the? Do and deal makers. Well I think it basically says your interest as the team owner in my interest as the League Front Office are align. Now you're going to do everything you can possibly do to grow your brand and your footprint meaning things as simple as you know you have a DC team Washington mystics. You were going to have high school camps for example Create a pipeline. Basically four high school girls playing basketball to go to college to income to the WNBA and that pipeline. The same way it exists in the men's game creates that excitement again that creates those multiples of superstars create those additional revenue streams that now our interests are aligned right. Because we're in this as a partnership and I'm not just kinda barking out orders and kind of issuing you're marching orders if you will from the top right. The thing that I think about is from at least from my vantage point the rise in interest in women's soccer now also coincides with them. Being really good so I don't know if there's like a obviously there's a correlation between interest and being good because the US men's soccer team sucks and no one cares when they play so like that makes sense but I was watching some kind of peace on like espn or something and they were talking about back in the nineties during Mia Hamm era of USA Soccer for women they were out like you know at community event finding autographs doing real grassroots work to get gain interest from essentially young girls and their parents and families. I'm thinking like that. My also have to be like a route because there has to be some way to generate interest around the personalities as opposed to just the product of. What's on the court period? I don't really watch any game any. Nba Words of Flava Flav. You've got to pay me boy like you can't expect. I'm going to do all these extra extra extra thing in you. Also kind of went really fast through the alternative. Which is I over to China or Turkey Israel and play and make ten times the amount of money I make playing right. Why would I forego that to be here signing autographs? You know whatever else unless you're GONNA pay me the difference because at the end of the day. I'm a professional athlete. Who wants to get paid for this small window of time that I'm at peak condition to be able to play? Make it worth me sacrificing going and playing overseas to help build your brain here in the states definitely equation and one that we certainly do not have the answer to a question before we go to another music break. What is this kind of story? Hafer Society at large. What it mean for us well so the real thing that jumped out to me and like the reason as we talked about it We decided to do. The show was because as as I'm scrolling through normal investment financial news whatever news of the WNBA deal keep showing up and it keeps showing up in such way that it made me realize like the effect that it's going to have the WNBA players is going to be expert but the effect that it's going to have one conversation pay equity in general is going to be x some multiple very so it's where the conversation starts but it's not at all where the conversation stops because you had What's The lady's name Billie Jean King? And like the seventies yeah pounding the table saying you need to pay me as much as you pay the men who whooping up on on the court. I if the answer is let me play against them to prove to you. I'm good enough. Then that's the answer but from then on the conversation kind of fell right and so I think looking at the women's soccer team in the women's basketball team and the way they're able to start to really make a meaningful noise around this conversation. I think it's kind of bringing it up in a way that you can't avoid it anymore. The way we have in the past well remind people you can catch managed money on apple podcast. Podcast on Soundcloud stitcher. Google play spotify. And please leave us a review on any of those platforms. Give us a nice five star rating. That helps more people custody show of you have a question or topic you cover. Send it to us and manage their money. Dot Com on social media handles at Mardian. One Malcolm what yours at Malcolm on Money. Of course you can catch us on facebook. Facebook DOT com back last. Manage your money. We will be right back. I'm Ben Johnson. Do what no way better out of make you feel bad a welcome back to manage your money with Ben and Malcolm where? Today's conversation at hand and my stiffy. Lakers is women in sports leading the way in pay equity another article that we pulled for this particular show the US Open awards men and women equal prize money but tennis still has a pay gap as a September twenty nine hundred on CNBC. Dot Com. By Courtney Conley at at two thousand nine hundred. Us Open A total of fifty. Two point. Seven million was awarded to players with large sums going to the singles Champs Bianca BIANCA AND DRESS. Gu a first time. Us Open competitor defeated Serena Williams. Another time Serena Williams was getting mocking house like I don't know if she's going to be able to come back from this. This final match on Saturday roffe on the defeated Danielle Medvedev in the men's final match on which was that Sunday took home equal prize. Money for the respective wins. This was three point. Eight five million dollars. Each has always been this way though though men and women tennis players are awarded prize money and today's US Open matches. It wasn't until the LEGENDARY TENNIS CHAMP. Billie Jean King threatened to boycott the US Open and nine hundred seventy three that men and women finally receive pay for the US Open. Wins Malcolm as you referenced in the earlier segment but the equivalent prize money that men and women receive at the Grand Slam events still puts tennis ahead other leagues and Associations in terms of equality in the NBA. Each player on the championship team received roughly twenty two hundred forty thousand dollars this year for their when that's significantly more than the eleven thousand. Espn reports wnba players receive for winning the championship. That's like a small business bonus. Eleven thousand dollars. It's not like it's not actors tag fooled to tax like you might go get yourself a new pair of headphones. Some Bank employees that bonus management that man as a father of girls. I gotTA help fix this situation in soccer. Twenty eight members of the. Us Women's national soccer team filed a lawsuit in March against the US. Soccer Federation or the F. As discrimination of course lost the men's and women's teams won each of the twenty nine tournament games. They're contractually expected to play. The women's team players would earn a maximum of ninety nine thousand dollars while the men's team would players will earn two hundred sixty three thousand dollars. That's despite the fact that women's games generating approximately fifty point eight million revenue between two thousand sixteen in two thousand eighteen compared to the men's games which generated forty nine point. Nine Million Malcolm so real quick question for you. Why has tennis lead in this area of pain winners of tournaments the same amount of money? My best guess is that tennis is a an international game. Basketball is that because there are so many other countries that are so much further ahead than the United States on treating their citizens like they have some sense. Right yeah that you can't take that nonsense elsewhere right so if you look at soccer for example you can go play internationally and play soccer in earn. You know legitimate money. As a women's soccer player or amend soccer player and their parody is a lot closer when it comes to the men's and women's US national teams. Right that's the disparity happens in so outside of the? Us people have a little more sense already. Like this is a problem. We see the problem. All of us at the table. Acknowledge it's a problem. Let's just fix the problem whereas in the US things always start with? Why don't you tell me why I need to worry? That sounds like a woman's issue. There aren't any women in the room. Less move onto the next order of business and so you then have to move to well we would hire more women and we would pay them more if we could find ones. We don't know any to okay. Fine I guess we have to the. Us has this history of always taking so long to get on the right side of right and dragging their heels kicking and screaming along the way that is totally unrelated to bring up but there's a Goldman Sachs story about them not taking public companies that don't have at least one all diverse board member us. Oh laughing with a focus on women after they announced that. You don't have to wear shirt and tie to work anymore right it. It was a really hilarious thing. If you don't know what I'm talking about look it up. Goldman Sachs diversity. It'll probably come up pretty hilarious After we got done pillaging the world thousand eight Economic Crisis Come. Outta here anyway Well I was GonNa say this about tennis though it's interesting. I don't watch men's tennis matches. I can't Serena doesn't play against men if she did. I would watch beyond that point beyond that. That's true but beyond that the men's matches are entirely too long really for me. I'm not going to sit there and watch them for hours. The women's match for whatever reason is shorter because of the number of fettes? It's only like who best of three whereas the men's best of five. Okay and the five. It just goes on for way too long. The women's is appropriately timed even if you account for like ties and stuff like that. I never even noticed that. There was that much of a disparity in the time. Because I do not like straight up Serena Williams and Venus Williams brought me to tennis so there is no men's game as far as I'm concerned and so on muzzy inflation own Stevens and Nio Mia Osaka still to women. So there is no men's tennis tournament happening as far as my TV. So I couldn't even to tell you the disparities between the way they play the game anyway. Moving on I actually reversed order of an earlier point that I made but The final story that we have this Arctic furthest show. Us Women's soccer equal pay. What's the latest and what's next? You may have heard about this Last year in two thousand nineteen November twenty nineteen piece on. Espn by Emily Kaplan on August. Fourteenth mediation talks broke down between the US SF in the women's soccer team with a spokesperson for the players. Saying the eagerly look forward to a jury trial on August Nineteenth District Court. Judge set a trial date for the lawsuit brought against the US Soccer Organization by members of the Women's National Team. Trial will begin may fifth twenty twenty and last four or five days Then on eighth judge granted the players that motion to be certified as a class action lawsuit and a Class Action Lawsuit. Essentially makes mistakes even greater for those involved in fevers position on the prize. Money is tied to revenue. Which is interesting argument simply. The men's tournament brings in much more than the women's some projections of what the tournaments earn revenue have been made public but not all the numbers are available on the New York. Times reported to projections of six point. One billion for two thousand eighteen men's tournament and if you've ever projected the women's World Cup would bring in one hundred thirty one million over the four year cycle. This raises the question of whether it's fair to cut prizemoney proportionately fever has had the funds to close the gap organizations cash reserves. Hit TWO POINT. Seven four billion twenty eighteen. So it's issue where they have the money to make it equal or more equal than than what it is. They're just not doing it yet. Other issues at hand The US women's national team has also fought for better conditions. The women had lesser accommodations while traveling as we mentioned in WNBA players sharing rooms with again. I think it was ridiculous. I'm routinely had to play on artificial turf instead of natural grass which was kinder to the body and your knees and all that kind of stuff and according to the complaint between January one two thousand fourteen in December. Thirty one twenty seven. The US national team played sixty two domestic matches thirteen of which were played on artificial surfaces during the same period the. Us Men's national team played forty nine matches and only one which is two percent was played on artificial surface so even in that area like there was a difference in how they're being treated and says the lawsuit was filed us soccer scattered all the women's games on natural grass that it was like just oversight. They didn't think well. That's what I was thinking as you were kind of going through that. Even if they come up short on the pay equity position specifically right as long as it gets put in writing that the determination is that they will split the prize money based on the sales and the people that are able to bring into the arena. It sets a precedent in opens the gates for the women players to drive their own outcomes in a way that they don't have right. Now right we all know. We're living in a social media generation and we all know that women are better at social media than men knocked right so they have the ability to put butts in the seats so to speak from a marketing standpoint that they probably haven't tapped into just yet. Yeah but after winning a championship and going on this campaign I'm sure they ultimately will so even if that gets put into writing as kind of a mandate that at least opens the door for them to kind of eat. What they kill so to speak is the term does The when I think about this argument about Meghan Rubino is like one of the leading score during the World Cup. I think last year What do you think the impact is on society little girls etcetera on seeing? You know this awesome soccer players score bunch of goals and then coming out in public on TV and otherwise talking about equal pay in this lawsuit etc etc so that was my whole point in in like us. Having the discussion on this is that it's bigger than sports right. Like sports is leading the way. Because it's the thing that we can all rally around like. If you think about the civil rights movement in the sixties basketball and football were wear black men really dominated and shined in this country in a way that they couldn't in the business world so you had like Jim Brown for example and Bill Russell pay for example who were like prominent big time athletes of their day right also helping to lead the civil rights movement coming to the aid of Martin Luther King and others like him and using their Celebrity to help push that agenda right. I think that's what we're seeing in the same vein where you have big time. Women's soccer players women's basketball players. Whoever who are coming out and making the case that it's not just about the sport itself it's about fair is fair and so now I'm a ten year old girl hearing this From the time I'm ten years old aware of it right to when I go to put my resume into work a job at twenty two wherever coming out of college. It's already been instilled in me that no no. No I don't have to get paid seventy cents on the dollar because we decided ten years ago we were. We're not doing that and so I think it has the ability to have that kind of a lasting effect because these women are willing to to Lynn. Their own voiced input. The face of that movement in that way are there any immediate impacts? You know outside of the sports world that you feel this has is there. Is there to use a reaganomics term? Is there any trickle down from? I don't know why I'm such a Geek for like making that joke Y- is there any like trickle down from it's the next generation of regular citizens not the athlete who spectacular at whatever their craft is already going to be all right so to speak from like an income and career perspective. But it's it's the regular people who will be affected by that movement taking place. Right Andy. Will I want to remind people you can always catch past episodes manager? Damn MONEY ON APPLE. Podcast SOUNDCLOUD STITCHER. Google play and spotify. Please leave us a rating interview on any of those platforms. The health more people cast the show. If you have a question or topic you want to send it to us. Sinister than email at Info at managing money dot Com. You can always catch us on social media handles in Wadi in one Margaret Malcolm on money. And that's all that's on. Instagram and twitter. You can catch us on facebook. Facebook DOT com slash manager? 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"The following podcast contains explicit language. Hi I'm Josh. Levin Slates National Editor and the author of the Queen. This is hang up and listen for the week of February. Eighteenth Two thousand ten twenty this week show we're going to talk about the fallout and the recriminations from the Houston Astros signed stealing scandal. Everybody's mad. Ltv Collarbone Tattoo. We'll also discuss the huge changes that are reshaping the WNBA and assess the best player in college basketball. Oregon's Sabrina UNESCO finally will review the Netflix Docu series cheer it look at the triumphs and the rigors of competitive cheerleading joining me as always from Palo Alto fresh off his triumphant live tour slate staff writer and the host of slow-burn season. Three Joel Anderson. Hey Joel Good Morning I'm triumphant. I do not survive you. Did you not only survived? You triumphed which is implied by triumphant. I'M GONNA get into my thesaurus later in the show but I'm just working one word at a time. 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Jose Altuve and Alex Bregman said they were sorry for the teams dealing scheme. Operation that led to the suspensions and firings of GM Jeff Lanao manager Aj hinch but quite importantly resulted in no penalties being imposed on astros players past or present. Let's listen to Bregman performance of contrition. I'm really sorry about the choices that were made by my team by the Organization and by me I've learned from this and I hope to regain the trust of baseball fans. I hope choices were made enters. The Pantheon with mistakes were made. It's even more passive and construction so the Astros peers and Major League Baseball Were now one over by that apology. Cody bellinger kind of came out. First and came out hottest bellinger's L. A. Dodgers lost the world series of Astra's in two thousand seventeen. He told reporters that. Houston stole the dodgers world series. Ring that everyone in the big leagues lost respect for them. He also talked about the video going around telling his teammates not to rip off his Jersey when he hit a walk off homer in the two thousand seventeen playoffs. That footage has led some to believe that Houston players were wearing buzzers under their shirts. Let's listen to bellinger. I don't know what human hits a walk off home run against all this Chapman to send your team to the world series and one has the thoughts. Say Don't Jersey off but to go in the tunnel change your shirt and then come out in your interview like that. It makes no sense to me makes zero sense to me. Because I know me Gary Sanchez said yesterday. You can rent my shirt off my pants off. I send my team in the world series of rallies Chapman and the night at home you can. Do you know I'm going crazy right. So if we do not see Pantelis bellinger. Then we'll know that he has a hypocrite Carlos Correa of Astra's defended Altuve as saying he didn't WanNa take his shirt off because he had a bad tattoo. I mean this is this is where we're at jaw And we must give credit to Stephan here because he predicted that this is how this is. GonNa play out to giving the players immunity to discuss. The science dealings. Came openly was GonNa Backfire on the Commissioner explanation for why no players got suspended. This Ranford says and I think it's true is that a memo was sent out explaining that if any team was caught stealing signs than the manager and general manager would be held responsible as they were lou now and a hinge got suspended and then fired and reporting by Jeff. Passan suggests that Astros management did not pass along the message in that memo to the players and so the thinking is if any astros players got suspended. Then there's no way I would hold up in a grievance and so in that case you would just be suspending players with the knowledge that it wouldn't hold up but to send a signal and so the question than as is worth it to do that justice signal even if in actual fact. Nobody would miss any playing time. I'm actually not sure what else the commissioner could have done just because of the players union. The suspensions probably wouldn't have held up but JAL you thoughts. I just find this really hard to take seriously to be honest and a lot of that is because obviously I'm not out there playing you know my contract my career. You know my legacy is on the line so I'd probably take much a much less serious about this but a further your away from winning the two thousand seventeen world series. I'll just like you guys are like really emotional about this great but you know I read in The New York Times. One of the writers were. We're supposed to be one hundred percent share with the game. Play fairly that is the very underpinning of sports. And that's a good line but it also seems sort of absurd to me because sports especially that were will first and foremost about entertainment like we do them and pay attention to them. Because they're supposed to be funded at good programming and like all of his moralizing about something. That's not very important so I guess for me. The issue is do you really want to stamp out all cheating in sports seriously legs at. Is that what we're supposed to go from here? So how we're does gamesmanship end and cheating begin in baseball Do they really want to go that far? Do we really want to go down that far down the wormhole in figure out like all the different ways in which players and teams are trying to get advantages. That are not legal. That are outside of the rules. Investigate every team in that way they really WanNa be subject to that kind of scrutiny. Because it seems to be with asking for here the thing that's so fascinating here is that players compete against each other on the field and they compete hard and whatever sport. It is but off the field. There's usually more solidarity in this. They're usually on the same team against management but they are the same team right because this is all a union like they're also hiding the Astros hiding behind the union direct. Yeah I mean the Union is kind of behind the fact that the Astros got immunity here and yet the other players in the union. Don't seem very happy about this Lindsey. No because they feel like something was taken directly from them. Which of course you can never know exactly where this went. I do want to say though while you are talking about the very serious implications of this. I really only WanNa talk about altuve shirt and like what really. I think this is the funniest scandal gain the world and somebody who's not a huge baseball fan and isn't tied to it. I am enjoying devouring. Every single second of this drama Carreira recently said that you know. He both excuses. He said I he didn't want me to take your shirt off because his wife didn't want him to take a shirt off anymore when instagram it is full of shirtless said it was that and the Tattoo thing. It was both so there were a lot of reasons here for him to keep his shirt on. But I think what's been fascinating to me is finding out what an open secret this was within baseball. Which once again is someone who's not As clinic clued into the day to day. That was surprising for me. There is a big piece in the Washington Post about how when the nats were playing them in the world series. Everyone kind of reached out to them. Big Help from everywhere to talk to them about the ways that the whether you want to call it gamesmanship whether you WanNa call cheating the ways that the astros were stealing signals and figuring out things so the nats actually went into this last world series with kind of a plan to combat that which I thought was just absolutely fascinating and players knew about it seems like teams knew about it and yet how do we square that with the fact this is going on for years and only now are we hearing the rage from. It's not just guys like You know bellinger was specifically harmed by Mike Trout. The face of baseball to the extent there is one saying that the punishment was week. Yu. Darvish who I guess was actually particularly by saying the astros should be stripped of their title. Does that actually not make sense Jolliffe? Everybody knew about it. Was everybody just mad all of a sudden when we previously discussed this on this podcast. I mean that was the thing that sort of struck with me because you know dusty. Baker came out this weekend and said he wanted to get the MLB involved with this low premeditated in retaliation you'll faithfully pictures on throwing fastballs. His players heads all year dusty. Baker new manager had nothing to do with any of this and he's been called on to kind of steer the ship. Now Yeah Right in. My thing is like we know that about baseball. Like they are have away of handling these sort of issues within the field of play like that is you. Don't throw in the ball or that. Somebody's head is giving US Chin music right so we're to believe that he's highly competitive dudes knew or suspected that cheating was going on and they just let it happen. You know I it anybody they never. I mean I don't understand why now if you if you suspected it. You're mad about it before everything. That was at stake. Then it's going to be a stake in the future but you know you had an opportunity to a divisional series championship series a world series on the line. And you would just hoping that the reps are going to step in the history was going to justify than somebody who's going to him and you guys got cheated out of a world series. I don't I don't understand why now they're upset when they had opportunity to you know showed discontent in that moment throw fastballs if people complain about that sort of stuff. What would what was the hold of been? Why why are they so mad? Day proposed an opportunity to actually do something about it when they were stakes involved. Yeah I mean I think that's a really great question. I have heard that there was some reporting MLB. And then I'll be investigations. Kinda didn't go anywhere throughout the years. But it also it's one of those things it the skeptic in me makes me wonder this because there's so much more of this going on behind the scenes than anyone knows right then. There was so much more of this going on behind the scenes than you would think that players would have it and sent it to shut up about it. The thing that's spent so interesting. Is that the Astros are being treated by their peers as miscreants and outliers and like if there are unwritten rules and we know baseball's unwritten rules about how far you can and should go with signs delaying. It just seems to be universal at this point at least in these kind of spring training press conferences that the Astros with you know looking at the video signals during the game using the trash can signal You know whether an off speed pitches coming Maybe wearing buzzers under their shirts. Like everybody seems to think that if it's if it's everywhere than at least this version of it hasn't everywhere. Yeah it seems like because of how big this has gotten so quickly and how now we know how intricate it was it just given permission to kind of just continue to throw these players under the bus but you do wonder how much of this is gonNA come back in. How much is this a systemic? Not just within the Astros but within baseball at large care also just say maybe I'm wrong. Stepping was right Alec. Midsection was right at first. But don't you just think that in two months in the wires on care about this I failed to believe this is going to be continuing story. The MLB has no interest in dragging the story out in any retaliation that has done. You would think would be done last spring in the first few games of the season. Then the games have to get started. There's a whole new pennant chase going on. Why do we think all this complaining is happening now because the news is out now but I just don't believe that we have the aptitude of the you know the ability to pay attention? You know the the attention span this carry on the story forever out of state plays blow off steam now and the MLB will just all right. Well you you're mad about it. Keep on or and. Joel's future world the XFL DOES NOT EXIST. Talking about this week are we. We're talking about we're talking. We're not talking about the XFL. But I think the analogy with the patriots as always instructive and Pimm or still talking about spy gate. Fifteen years later and you also never heard this kind of concentrated anger directed toward the Patriots from other players. I don't feel like ever from players on every team. And it's also just the fact that this has coincided with the start of spring training it's like reporters are all like fanning out to these sites in Florida and Arizona and they're kicking off the season by Lake reacquaint themselves players. And it's all anybody wants to talk about. I think that that there will be other things to talk about in the next couple months. Joy agree with that that this will fade a little bit but I have a hard time thinking that the astros role in this the fact that the two thousand seventeen world series is tainted. I don't think that that's going to be forgotten by anyone. I don't either but also I think the reason this keeps coming up is because their pr they keep having PR disaster after PR disaster after was astor. Like if they're handling this with any sort of like contrition and adult behavior. I think this'll be different. But just you know this week. We had Jim Crane. Say Oh this didn't really impact the Games itself. Nobody should be held responsible. Awaited did impact the Games. You know what I mean just like within sixty seconds seconds of each other you have. The bregman sounded robotic like. He was rea- streit. They're not that's a thing so there will the players the players that have left the using my same construction about the the further. Your Way from Houston. If you're an astros player like the former players are extremely contrite and about what took place which actually makes the current astros players look worse because these guys who were their teammates are performing. I think the way that their peers on that fans WANNA hear. Yeah I agree with. What do you think they're going to do that? So we've got George Springer. I don't believe I don't believe. Mlb players they. They're really upset about this. I think their their performance for awhile. I'm I'm becoming the formative. Outraged personnel got really reassess. Where I'm coming from it but I really do think that yes the people that feel like they were denied a world series or pennant are upset and they're lashing out right now because yes you probably would be upset if you thought that that team got the best of you and he worked angles on you to win the championship. Even though we know that some of them suspected it was happening at time right and for some reason they didn't protest vocalized. These concerns at that time right but I just I feel like we saw what happened. The steroid scandal that too many guys that emerged from that standpoint will clean at this point. Now they're giggle headed to the hall of fame but then people get a firmly ensconced within baseball cultural again even up to working on. Mlb teams people guys. That were you know. Very much at the center of the steroid scandal side is right now. They're hot about it. Maybe they should be but I just don't see that anger sustainable itself. The Astros did have a pitcher banned for a whole season for Francis Murtaz. Happy that this happened during the midst of the science dealing scandals like nobody cares about doping right now so people don't even know that you got suspended for a year and haven. Nobody's mad at them for all their domestic violence mess ups now so this is taken away. This is taken away the focus there people. I started getting mad at them all that I got started correcting it. Just Kinda metastasized southern thing right. Yeah so you mentioned whether people are going to stay mad at them. So one instance in which peers do stay. Mad is the players that crossed the picket line during the players strike. There were guys. That guy called SCABS for the rest of their careers. And so I think you're right that this is not get to that level jaw like I think if a guy from astros switches to another team now hill like say all the right things and the teammates will get over it. I don't think somebody's GonNa get ostracized so I think that is probably a good indicator of where the scandal sits in terms of how it's perceived by players on the game. I think it'll be a punchline. Infinity say spy gate like this is going to be a punchline and this is going to be dragged into conversations whether it's out of pure anger I don't know and you know if we're talking about how this is going to ender how this is GonNa Fade. Remember that Major League. Baseball hasn't announced its punishment for the Red Sox who are caught up in a similar if not as pervasive and all encompassing science dealing scandals. This is going to be back in the news and people are going to be comparing their penalties. And there's going to be a whole other round of conversation about that out from Houston Jerry Council. Sorry this week's episode of Hang Up and listen is brought to you by COM. Are you struggling to sleep these days? You're not alone one in three. Us adults don't get enough sleep and if you're not sleeping enough it can affect your cognitive functions during the day like learning problem solving and decision making. That's why we're partnering with calm. 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Though stars started thinking new deals and changing teams intial macaw Tree Christie tolliver dewana Bonner Skyler diggins Smith all all stars all going to be wearing new uniforms Lindsey. Let's start with a Y. What is the deal? What's explanation for all of this player movement? Well for one. You have an increase in salary cap. It went from. I think one million to about one point three million so that's a pretty significant increase. It gives teams a little bit more to go at second. You had these bigger contracts available before the Max players could get was around one hundred seventeen thousand dollars now. The Max is two hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. That's a big difference in money that I think are making the elite players trying to seek out teams. That can give them that Max contract because of course not everyone's going to be able to get that Another important thing is that as part of this negotiation of this new. Cba The core designation that teams are allowed to give out which is basically the wnba version of the franchise tag and the NFL. That gives the team. Were the player is contract with has gets to hold onto them so that has decreased. They took away a year for that. I think it went from four to three and going forward. It's GonNa go down even last two two so it gives players more availability for movement the big elite stars whereas they used to be tied to their teams for upwards of ten years if they were in a really elite player played their entire rookie contract and then record four times. You know you're talking about a decade so those things really combined to make what has been the most exciting free agency period in WNBA history. And one that I think will change the future of the League so if somebody that admittedly probably doesn't watch the WB as much as one thing the NBA fans media complain about. Is the idea that free agency while it has increase off-season interest in the league. And you know there's like this long running drama but like the constant shuffling of stars and teams in some ways not good because it diminishes the hope for other teams and so on and so forth makes other teams instantly competitive and others. Not so much. Do you worry at all about that or no. I mean one benefit the WNBA has right. Now they're only twelve teams right so they're such a concentration of talent. It really needs to expand so there are so many good players. It's different when you have your leap players. Spread out over thirty teams. If a couple of them congregate you're GONNA have some teams without any superstars at all whereas that's harder more difficult to happen the WNBA because they're such elite talent. And Yeah I mean. I think there's always a give or take with these things right. I think there's of course. There is some teams who love you. Know Phoenix's devastated the doina Bonner. Isn't there anymore. Dallas fans would have loved to see another season Schuyler. Dick Smith you know. Washington mystics fans are sad that Chrissy toddlers gone. That's a part of it but when you look at the new configurations of these teams you have what is essentially a super team now with the Phoenix Mercury with Brittany griner Diana drowsy Schuyler Digging Smith. That could be your starting three on the Olympic team. I'm not saying it will be but it very well could be. You have to WanNa Bonner joining John Jones in Connecticut for which is an instant improvement for a team that made it to game five the WNBA finals last year. So I think seeing this player movement is by far net positive for the League especially when you consider the WNBA season is only five six months long kind of depending on how it goes we. There's been a big need to get more talk about the league during the off season and this is a huge way to do it and you you mentioned like the sparks of candace. Parker Neka Graham Mackay Chelsea Gray and tolliver now the Las Vegas Aces Have Liz Cam. Beija Wilson Andrew McCarthy tree The Storm Have Subaru. Brian Stewart. Jewell Loyd I mean there. Aren't that many teams and there are a lot of very good players so kind of super teams are going to happen organically and now with all this movement. It's just GONNA lead to hyper concentration of talent but probably on more teams that art in the NBA and it's also I think consequences just like an NBA when they raise the cap by a huge amount and a single year and decided not to smooth it out like this was probably the year. We're all the movement is going to happen. And then in the years to follow that. There's probably GONNA flexibility for teams to make deal and it's interesting 'cause it's setting the market as we go because the WNBA has never had this right. Where a bunch of players can earn over one hundred thousand dollars you know it used to be just for the select few so we're already seeing kind of some head-scratching contracts where you're going the phoenix mercury. I thought they were trying to get Tina Charles to their rumors of they're trying eighteen. Charles and they get free a Hartley a guard from the New York Liberty. Who's you know a talented? I think of hers kind of six woman type player. But she's now got a contract for like one hundred eighty seven thousand dollars and I thought to myself. Gosh it feels refreshing to feel that there's like a bad contract money going around but like you feel like some teams are some mistakes with their cat money like that and look. This is nothing and spree Hartley. But you know. She's not one of the elite players in the league. So I think you're going to see some GM's make some mistakes. Which is something we've definitely seen in the NBA. Whenever there's a cap spike you. I mean that's one thing about orders as bad organization no matter. What like a more focused. Now what did you you said Dinosaur Aussie in? I was shocked to find out down. Atrocities ONLY GONNA be thirty this year. 'cause like forty five years old something like that point can the mercury stop counting on her because again in basketball at some point you say oh well you have to acquiesce to age right but without its Rossi. It's like oh she's still going to be a czar in her like twentieth year is wild although she is she's she's missed pretty much all but a couple of games of last season with back surgery that ended up kind of moving into a hamstring thing. Because that's how these things work. You are overcompensating. She hasn't played for USA basketball yet. She's been with the team but hasn't been on the core. She's very motivated to get herself healthy. She wants to be on this Olympic team and she wants to play another season with the mercury but her body is definitely breaking down. The real outlier. Here is sue bird. Who is two years older than Diana Drowsy? And looking as good as ever which doesn't make any sense 'cause I this. Is You know as you get older. You lose a sense of like how old are yours. I had no idea the super bowl to your own. Ross she helped recruit Diana Trask Yukon. Isn't that wild? See I remember watching. Sue Bird in the final four and I just assumed that I like this is the way the Yukon lineage goes Rebecca Lobo to me at least Rebecca Lobo somewhere there diners Rossi. Dentsu bird like there was no way. I wish I could have not told me in any way. That suber sound Maybe subverters fairly. I've seen her up close and you would never ever that. She was close to forty ridiculous. They're only one hundred forty four roster spots in the NBA. Have these players kind of hanging around and you have women's College basketball is only getting better several years. There's so much of a squeeze and these rosters is getting more talented but the really interesting thing about this. Cpa Lenzi is that it really puts the squeeze from what I've read on these Middle Tier of players that it's better for the stars but for the players that are phillies rosters. It's not necessarily the greatest deal. Yeah and I think that what we're GONNA see unfortunately is so. There's yeah there's only one hundred and forty four roster spots and unfortunately I think what this cap. There's going to be a lot of teams just carrying eleven players this year. Because that's the minimum so there's going to be even fewer but for salary cap reasons. That's the kind of thing that the players union is going to be pissed about. I mean maybe they anticipated a I can just imagine in any sport. That's the idea that teams wouldn't be carrying the Max number of players is not gonNa make the Union half it's not ideal and it's a for me that was the one weak spot in their CBA. I'd hope that they would at least expand the roster to thirteen or fourteen. If there wasn't gonNA be expansion because there had been a time when roster sizes were fourteen and so. I thought that we might be getting back to that to getting even more players in the mix and now it seems that there's going to be a backward step but also there's give and take some other way and hopefully over the next couple of years as this particular business model get sustained there can be actual expansion in the League which then will take care of losing some of these spots but I agree. It's going to be very interesting to see how this impacts the middle of the Road Player. So far everyone is benefiting all these free agent signings because a lot of them are bigger names. Right are getting deals even for the lower tier ones that are north of one hundred thousand. Which is you know what only the Diane atrocities were getting before by. Yeah it's a whole new world and there are going to be some losers. There's some losers in every single negotiation like this. I mean there's some rosters that they already have eleven or twelve players and I'm just like how are they even GonNa sign their first round draft? Pick this year like there's just no space She is probably clearly the best lawyer in Polish women's Basketball Point Guard for University of Oregon would've been the first pick in the WNBA draft. Is that fair to say Lindsay Davis? She come out right this year but passed on. The drafter went back to play college. Oregon and now Oregon is one of the best teams in the country. They beat the US women's national team in an exhibition earlier this year in large part because of her. I just wonder let's say that. Cba is done at this time last year. That doesn't affects. The brain is decision to go back to school. I don't think as much because I think rookie contracts are still pretty low. You know I mean the rookie. Contracts have definitely increased. But you're not making the two hundred thousand dollars. If you're a rookie Brandon Stewart actually still eligible for the Max in her fifth year like she signed right now. She has resigned her contract for like one hundred eighty five which is of course way better but she doesn't have the years under her belt. I don't know what exactly it is yet to be eligible for the Max so I don't think that would have necessarily change. Sabrina 's calculation and of course the big thing for her was that they did win the National Championship. And she knew she came back. That Oregon had a good chance to win the National Championship. Although South Carolina's actually been the best team this year so You Know Dawn. Staley might have to say about that but that was the big reason. So I don't think that would have changed her calculation over all but I think in general it might impact some players down the line and we're already starting to see more players come out early because remember. It's not just the money that they can earn in the WNBA. It's the money they can earn overseas as well. That adds up to be a good amount and let's face it. What Sabrina can make will will make sure from Nike will far surpass her wnba contract. She's fascinating figure Rachel Bachman. Outta good piece about her and the Wall Street Journal that noted that Oregon tickets for game against Oregon stay where selling secondary market for almost five hundred dollars the best seats that she's increased attendance. There's a huge amount. I'm curious your thoughts. Lindsey about the fact that a major reason for her mainstream fame as that. She's been getting a lot of attention from mel players male commentators. She has this very well now and had this very well known affiliation with Kobe Bryant. She has been praised on social media by a huge number of NBA stars. Whether you know Lebron James Steph Curry Jami rant. What do you think it is about her that resonate so much with NBA players? And how do you feel about the fact that a lot large part of her famous because of getting this kind of affirmation from men? I don't actually think that that's I think she had the stats before that came right so that might be a reason that some people on the sides are paying more attention but she passed the triple double mark so she has more triple doubles than any player male or female in college basketball after her junior year. So she I mean. She is just shattering records in a way that we haven't seen any college basketball player do and I think that the way she's been able to take over. The game has a lot to do with that. She plays with style and attitude that kind of transcends sport and transfer event her amazing numbers. She does and I think a lot of it looked. She's in Oregon and I think the closeness to Nike has also made her kind of more accessible to these. All these superstars coming in and out of Nike Headquarters and the relationship organ has with Nike. But Yeah I mean I'm not gonNA say she's been in the past year on the cover of the Washington Post sports section on the cover of the New York Times sports section on the cover of the Wall Street Journal Sports Action and the cover of the La Times sports section. You don't see that is huge exposure right within dig about what it took for that to happen because it would like. Zion was great but he didn't have the career resume that Sabrina have got to go back You know what else I I do. Think that be a players. See something in her attitude like achieved visibly taught shit. Oh which is not something. Yeah Right which did I know that that happens at all levels basketball at any point but like with her. It's like visceral. She's she's like she's spitting anger the whole time she's plan and I think that's something people really relate to. There's a video of her playing I think it was against Justin Herbert though Oregon quarterback and like his brothers and she likes stuff's a guy and shoves him when went viral. It's great and there is a small thing that really stood out to me and that Rachel Bachman Peace and the Journal and mentioned that in ask you might play in the Olympics and three on three basketball and for whatever reason the Olympics has not given women's basketball the kind of bump historically that athletes and other sports have gone. I don't think it's given wnba much of a bump. I don't think it's made the best players bigger stars but for some reason. I feel like Sabrina UNESCO in three on three basketball for the first time ever in the Olympics I feel like that could be really huge for her and for the sport. Yeah I think it could be really great. I mean I think seeing her. I can't wait to see her compete with the national team and try and make that roster and I think she's got already has a really great case for it but I actually am curious to see what this Olympics overall does for the WNBA. Because there's a lot more synergy right now between the USA basketball and the WNBA. Diana drowsy and sue bird basically single handedly or doublehanded lagasse between themselves created this year year long national team program. That has brought the national team to around all of these colleges and I'm actually really excited to see what the Olympics can do now that it seems that Cathy Engelbert the Commissioner of the WNBA. Anti meals basketball seem like they actually want to capitalize on some of that momentum that could be created and I. I hope that that's the case. No matter who is making the roster is really interesting because and you ask catch me if you disagree here but the US Olympic Team. His never had a better a more dominant program than its women's basketball team right. Like I mean I can't think of another team program like the even we called evincing the Dream Team but they've lost. You know what I mean. I'll be like yes if Sabrina does play a role in creating this better synergy with Wsbiu basketball rod with. We need to ask the question. Why hasn't that already happened by we? We rally around the women's soccer team in a way that you know as great. We should do that. We rally red all these other socrates but the women's basketball team for whatever reason is good as it's been is dominant is has been has never gotten this kind of support. It's never translated anything else beyond and I think you can't discount the role. The racism and homophobia have played in that and Also just think there's been a lot of taking it for granted you know. There's there's taking that greatness for granted there have been years where soccer team hasn't one right but you really do assume that every time. The women's team takes the court that they're going to win and there will be overwhelming favorites at the Olympics. This year. They're probably third team would be favorites. The Olympics year but international basketball's improving at a very very fast rate. Wnba players all throughout the teams in Tokyo and they almost got beat by. Nigeria in a warm-up tournament a couple of weeks ago barely eked out a win over Nigeria. So it's GonNa be fun and I hope that this is a changing of the guard. Because you're totally right Joel. It has gotten completely lost in the shadows and while the soccer team has been hailed as heroes. We've really taken the greatness of the basketball team. And hopefully this'll be you know we'll get one final Olympics was sue bird and Diana Ross and like let's not take this for granted. I wanted to let you know that in our bonus I went for slate plus members. We're GONNA catch up on the US. Women's national soccer teams equal pay suit and look at why the men's team express solidarity with their female counterparts. If you want to hear that and you're not a slate plus member you can sign up for slate. Plus it's just thirty five dollars for the first year you can sign up at slate dot com slash hangup plus the fire so first of all appreciate Joshes in the middle of putting together. The Four Seasons of a slow burn podcast. He's also working on his podcast. That you listen to right now and yet be found time to binge six-part Cheer Series for Netflix. But that alone doesn't tell you how the show is. But it gives you a pretty good idea. The series takes place at the viral Jimmy College in Texas a little South Dallas. Where longtime coach Guile? Donna has built this unlikely cheerleading. Powerhouse Navarro is one. Fourteen of last night's best junior college championships. In five of the eight grand. National Championships was awarded the overall top sports. So if you remember the last chance use series then you'll get the appeal of cheer last chance you cover these junior college program towns in Mississippi. Kansas he's talented but troubled. Athletes come in search of another way too big time. Football Cheer doesn't quite like that and it's not exactly clear where the Post Navarro destination is even if the future is brighter for the kids. Come through coach Donald Program while they're there in Texas of all places there's much heroes is the football players if not more so you get to watch them perfect their craft in all six episodes sometimes excruciatingly so literally and figuratively. There's a seemingly endless. Tally of broken bones cracked ribs and concussed heads and in fact. We've got a clip from Morgan. She's a member of the Navarro. Cheer team who sort of a Newbie is far as competitive cheer. We'll go right. Here is crazy but we do you think about it. Like clever thought of taking people and a back spot in chucking someone is Aaron. See How many times they can spend. How many times they can flip. That person is psychotic but yet I'm the crazy person because I'm the one that does it does seem crazy. You can really hear the bones cracking and ankles breaking all this stuff throughout the series we in practice probably about a third of the time that the documentary goes and it's all of service of this one perfect moment. That doesn't quite come together and I don't want to spoil it for people who haven't seen it but it's not even pretty at the end so anyway Josh. You finally watched over the weekend what was your big takeaway cheer. Congratulations first of all on getting me to watch it. You've been honest talk about cheer for Awhile and I was kind of you. Know putting it off like yeah. I'll get to this eventually. And then I watched the first episode and then I watched all sex and very Rapids after it's just before we get into all of the like really fascinating conversations. We can have about the show. It's just an unbelievably well made piece of television Docu series. You know you heard in that clip. The sounds of that hundred pound cheerleader. Morgan getting tossed in the air and caught like and the way that they have that Mike. You can really kind of here and feel viscerally the pain every time one of those moves gets made and so it's just incredibly well shot. I'm the sound is great. And the way that they integrate the competition with the back stories of the athletes going back to their hometowns and hearing about their stories. I don't know if I've ever seen a work of kind of reality. Television Docu series like this. That is so transfixed. Saying I haven't actually seen last year. That is also on my list so I don't know if last chance you is this. Good but Lindsey. I just could not stop watching the series I e to just binge it basically over the weekend after my podcast co host had been. Becky meet a lot of very similar. Yeah it was all of the getting to know these people within the context of doing this. I've never been a big athletes. Shocker have been just a sports fan. One of the sideline people most sports though while they amaze me they don't feel like they're in another universe like watching this and watching the things that these these athletes are doing just feels like Bayer completely different human beings than been. I am but I think what I really appreciated about this docu series. Is you think of cheerleading. And you think kind of the GLITZ and the glamour maybe the cattiness. Maybe the you know the Polish and the shine or is this really was all about kind of the humanity of it the athleticism of it and I mean this is this powerhouse program that practices in this bare bones gymnasium in the middle of nowhere. We'll Navarro's both the juggernaut and an underdog. I think makes it a Joel. The perfect subject for a series like this and they have one rival Trinity Valley which is kind of glimpsed very occasionally and they have this coach vantage. Johnson who's like the opposite kind of coach. Monica made me wonder like what would the Docu series about Trinity Valley Have Have Been Because Navarro is portrayed? I think correct like these kids come from really difficult backgrounds. They do have to struggle and yet Navarra wins all the time and Trinity Valley. Doesn't I wonder if you could have made such a compelling series about the rival school or if it had to be Navarro I think it helps a lot because that way you get Daytona in the final championship is the final championship. Competition is and you get this pay off. You get the C. Team defending or not defending its tidal. And that feels a little bit different. Because that's the that's the spine of this story. House Navarro going to maintain this excellence. You know in you see how they how they get to be great in you get to see will pay off at the. I don't know that we would have gotten that at Trinity Valley but the one thing that I thought about was my guy. They don't have a lot of resources there and I thought about that most wind shooters got hurt over and over again and it'd be like oh well you know maybe you should is set up for you should go see the doctor or whatever in it any other major program in any other major sport. That'd be so much. More attention paid to the injuries that were compiled during the course of competition. And it just didn't happen that may actually I mean in some ways I was? It was inspiring their soldiering on in spite of all these limitations but also what it would have looked like if it had happened at University of Texas if they had all these sort of resources and I wonder I wonder why does University of Texas. But it's not until the end you realize that if they're dominating amongst all these other programs that are similarly limited. It's not like community colleges. Junior colleges are well Sunday in any way and sometimes they score four high with a beat and often they score high enough to these other programs right neck repeating at that level but fundamentally their primary competition are these other poorly funded schools in far out places when it has made me wonder what would that look sexy neighbor with that look like. Smu When for me love that brought up the fact that this is cheerleading is not like an NCWA sanctions sport. And I think so much. Sexism goes into that and like the way we viewed cheerleading throughout the year. But also one of the things I did not see coming and would have honestly love to hear a lot. More about was the final episode. You hear about this conglomerate corporation Varsity that kind of has their stranglehold over the sport and I've done a little bit of research about how varsity has kind of fought to keep it from being an NCWA sport right so that varsity gets to keep hold of this sport and keep making the prophets and keep like running this world'll competitive cheerleading. And now that I'm ever ever in favor of you know. Ncaa guy and taking control but there are sort of some regulations on some level of minimal oversight when you are an NC double a sport that it made me wish kind of wonder if this would be they would be better off to have. I don't know what you Joel was. How many times per day? How many hours per day per week do they do all the time? Right notations and don't like there's one trainer for their whole school so basically the way it worked out like at one of the early scenes. The one you know. One athletic trainer was all the way working with another team. Also a across. And then there's a serious injury and they had the like drop everything and come all the way over whereas you know you're getting much more over say in their certain. I mean we know they're not always follow but there are concuss. Some symbolises of Russian protocols. And things like that and the only way I felt like it not being. Ncwa spor really benefited was the fact that I like. These players were able to create these social media followings and off of them which. I thought was a really interesting thing. There was one of the cheerleaders. Gabby I think her name was who had like you. She has almost a million followers on instagram and was really building a brand and of course one half million notes here is not bad and of course if she was. I kept thinking if she wasn't NCW ATHLETE. Of course that wouldn't be allowed. I found that to be interesting. It's the first thing I wrote in my notes as cheer shows what could happen if the NCAA allowed athletes to market themselves. Yeah and that is a benefit that these athletes have that with us not being an NCAA SPORT. They can do sponsored content on their social media And they can make money from you know. Cheer Was about a football team. The all of the people that are in our incredibly famous. If if if you get into youtube and like look at all the stuff that these guys have John like Jerry is on the red carpet for Ellen Degeneres like. They're all doing like every conceivable marketing opportunity. And it's and it's great for them and I'm sure that they're being able to profit off of their names and likenesses which they would not be able to do as Ncaa athletes but the varsity brands thing is so insane. Matt Stoler had a good post about it in his newsletter about monopolies. It's like not only does varsity. Do these competitions. They also sell all the apparel. Stoler pointed out that they had one competition where they actually gave teams more points if they did stunts with varsity brands. Like why US these These competitions are marketing essentially vehicles for Varsity cheerleading outfits cheerleading products. It's like this totally like Verti- vertically integrated monopoly and It's IT'S NOT. It's truly you couldn't watch it on. Espn or anything. You have to buy their streaming platform to even be able to watch this and that was just that was really sunny and so part of this. Was that the camera crew. Netflix camera crew couldn't bring their Crew completely into Daytona Film. They kind of relying on like iphone footage because of this varsity monopoly. Another thing that I thought about with cheer in regards to the people that make the team is how easy it would be for. These kids to be exploited I I. I didn't get the sense that many of them went to school are had much even academic record before they got the which in some ways gives them an advantage junior colleges because they have a much more liberal Insurance Policy Evening Another bigger incidentally affiliated school right so they can bring in people that it wasn't clear that they did. Gary say that she not been to school basically chose longtime. It wasn't clear that there was a lot of academic grounding in a lot of in in for a lot of these players they spent a lotta time a class. It was only at the end when you hear that Jerry gets the scholarship to the university academic scholarship to the University of Louisville other. Oh wow I wonder how you found time to go to class and classes but there was never any sense. Academics put any role in sort of education which may be as far. That was just a huge part of last chance. You didn't watch the most recent season last chance you but I mean in the first season like one of the main characters was the academic advisor like with these play like she was like Almost the star of the series and so far as weird like not having that part of it into it but of course all of those players are trying to go onto academically be able to qualify for these bigger schools whereas I was brought up time and time again. They are these you know. Nineteen Twenty Olds at the pinnacle of their like. There's nowhere to go for from here as far as like competitive cheerleading right. That's it for the roaches weird just in the concept of the sex of the mother because what does Lsu have a cheerleading program where you can go into and get that scholarship and you know you juku Rodman do that. Let's talk about Monaco. Dhamma the coach. She's compared in share to nick. Sabin Bill Belichick. She's struck me as kind of more like coach Taylor from the Friday Night Lights Universe. She clearly cares a lot about the men and women on her team. They all talk about her as the Queen and admiring term. She's the greatest cheerleading coach. That there is in terms of resume and yet it seems like she's putting her athletes endanger a lot of the time Jia Tolentino and apiece for the New Yorker wrote throughout the season all Dhamma uses Morgan's attachment to her in a way that pushes Morgan into physical danger. Her ribs come to the brink of fracturing though she tries to conceal let and also provides Morgan with a new confidence and a novel sense that she is needed and seen yet at times. It's a very toxic relationship in at other times. It seems like a very rewarding relationship for these athletes but I think ultimately that's kind of an uncomfortable truth at the root of a lot toxic relationships is that it's not all bad right at the manipulation part of that and I do think seeing her flippant nature towards injuries for these kids was jarring and I can't overlook at nor do I think it should be overlooked the time she was definitely giving a lot of these kids. Young adults like a support and a love and and attention that they had never received before Joel. How much of what you saw from Monica do you feel like is just endemic to high level competitive college athletics versus being unique to this particular environment. It just reminded me of every pretty much every coach that you might come across at that level or any level right because there is this sense that the coaches care about you and they want the best for you. And there's always a sense that they're going to be parental figures in your life for the rest of your life and they just want the best for you and teaching you sacrifice and commitment determination and all these other values that we supposedly imbue our sports with an end. Especially if you go to the end of this documentary. What was it all four because we get to the end of the documentary and we see that a lot of these cheerleaders that doesn't appear to be like some sort of defined half like there's not necessarily a way forward we get Morgan. Who's just kind of hanging out on campus? When it's all over Jerry was able to use his get it somewhere else but the Darius I mean he found a gym he's working at but I think the argument is that she at least claims. I've won enough. I don't need more trophies. I just do this for the kids and I want to give them discipline and put them on the right path. Yeah I mean I guess we need to know a little bit more about what that looks like after this in a big thing is. I think it's coming back for a second season and a lot of these people are coming back. What I think tears coming back for another season. But who are your sources on that Lindsey announcement amazing? Wow seeing that. I haven't seen that anywhere. You know. Rumor has it. It's coming back for a second season armor has it. Jerry's going to still be involved and Irish Back Navarro now. Yeah because Jerry's definitely back into Varo. He did not end up taking that scholarship one Jones as southern amazing right now but then he left yet and I just WanNa make sure that these contracts for the second season are fair. Tv's cheerleader Omar. God Jerry. Didn't go to Louisville Ky. Wed He went. He didn't stay. He Thought Navarro was the best place for go. Probably because of second season of the show I think it probably had something to do. I don't know right if there's not a second season guide Corsica Texas before in. I can't imagine if you need to spend more than a year. You're half there if you don't have to a quick lightning round for me. I mentioned earlier. That kind of back stories that you hear about of the cheerleaders and just the different kinds of broken ness that the show depicts like Gaby's relationship with her parents who are just around bleed overbearing and I think are seen as villains by a lot of people who watched the show. I'm Jerry and what he overt over comes in and his life with his mom getting cancer Morgan being abandoned by her family laborious getting bullied and abused just the amount of pain and kind of different types of emotional pain that all of these people went through as heroin. And I think also one of the things that I really know VIN mired as the the right word but you see the kind of like depictions of of people that you don't necessarily see and popular media in one of I. I'm transitioning a little bit here but like gay. Black male athlete is like not a category. Like we've obviously Michael Sam Jason Collins but Just like the man on this team or just really fascinating figures and not once they necessarily see and that kind of reality. Television DOCU series Environment all that often there were a lot of things to enjoy about this series amidst all this broken estimate amidst all this possible exploitation but the one thing that kept coming back to how much they all support each other how much they make community for each other and maybe that's you know the cameras there in in some ways. They're putting on a good show but he did seem that those guys those girls really did care about each other into care of each other even as they were competing amongst themselves for spots on the cheerleading team. But it does seem you know all these moments where Jerry Inlet area Room and the talking to each other and it's like very brotherly or or even. Lexi like lexi's hanging out there lexie somebody that we didn't break up Who you know if you get to. The end of the documentary is not a lot of reason to feel excited about. You know her immediate future. She's been Joel by the way she's begging while you're breaking news. Okay what did you do? Did you fall? Instagram accounts? That question and some. There's some out there. Are you have something to look forward to? After we finished recording a podcast. I'll get into that. I think like it seems like what you're getting at is. There's this intense athletic environment without a lot of toxic masculinity which is just like so rare and especially like coming from the last chance you kind of like type series like it was just not that there weren't components of that as far as the ruthless competitiveness. The you know manipulation. I mean there were so unhealthy aspects to this but seeing it be predominantly women and gay men as the stars of this Lake Ruutel. Intense athletic competition made it feel different and was putting them in a different light and showing US different sides to people than we're used to seeing represented and our media. Let's end it there and it is now time for after balls and after just ending at they're going to restart it again because I want to keep talking about cheer for just an another fifteen seconds. So did you guys notice on apparel to kind of around in the background of the show. There's this acronym. Fbi O F M. You know it's just kind of around their little Easter Egg. If you look for server they never talk about it. And I found this article on the website decider which found a tweet from Navarro. Cheerleader named Kayla Colbert that says F. I. O. F. MU is a coded message motto that you learn and earn throughout the year while on the team learning the meaning is entirely special in his only known by Navarro Cheerleaders Navarro Chair Alumni. So we WANNA know what? Fifa MU means. And we need to go to Navarro's. I'm I'm a port. Actually they did highlight deleted urban dictionary entry. That suggests that weather is so this may or may not be true but it perhaps stands for fight it out. Fuck them up. That sounds fine. Yeah all right so F. I. O. FM NEW JAL. What do you got for us? So Yeah My F. I. O. FM YOU IS THE KNUCKLEHEADS podcast and so if you're an NBA fan. You probably settled in this weekend to watch one of the best all-star weekends in recent memory. The three point and dunk contests where each decided single point. Aaron Gordon jumped over seven foot five Taco fall in lost okay. The game on Sunday night was one of the most EH competitive in the game's history. Guys Kyle lowry taking charges in the final minutes and it'd be easy to get lost in the second half of the NBA season to come is a lot to look forward to for Brandon. The Lakers one. Kobe require Paul. George keep them from even winning. Los Angeles is Genesis Year Milwaukee and so on and so forth but the knuckleheads is for those of us who WanNa look backward a little bit in it's hosted by the Los Angeles Clippers first round picks suit thousand so sorry Michael Europe. You'd miss catechists. Maybe he comes in sometimes. But it's going to be starting. Its third season visit today with an interview is Shaquille O'Neill tunnel. Here's this Arctic. Right in the PAC has so much about these star studied guests. Shacks Kobi's Dwayne. Wade's the Kevin Durant is it is about the working class of the NBA. It starts at the top where the CO host areas miles Quentin Richardson. Each began an episode. But the question in its who was the first person in the NBA to bust your ass and the responses open. This portal Time when guys like Nick Band Axel variant Davison Carlos boozer where important parts of the landscape that time of the NBA by the way is so much more delightful enough memories than it wasn't real time but you'll hear about how much the players respect. Naasi Thomas's coach how I made it these various. Aau tournaments around the country. And how the Sean Leonard was. Apparently the most unstoppable player. We don't remember Whatever reason but nobody can stop the Sean Litter? According to at least four players that have appeared knuckleheads five cats so anyway dairying quitting have this knack for getting players over ways. They usually don't in the mainstream media and that's probably because they have these relationships with everyone In fact it leads to this. Great quote because Darius Quentin. We're famous for a time for putting both their fist on their forehead after they duncan made a big play. And that's how they ended up become a problem knuckleheads and that sorta gave the most modicum of fame so much that they appeared in the Van Wilder movie series. And so it leads to this break. Seen it was great. This great clip in the podcast. Daria says Ben. Van Wilder love hit different. And so it's just great so in a time of renewed interest in are working class. Super Tuesday knuckleheads is the window. We need to the heartland of the NBA couldn't recommended more. That sounds amazing. And thank you for your appreciation of the working man. That's a sentiment that we could all we all Us More Lindsay. What's Your F- FM? You okay well I already forgotten that acronym so we talked about women's basketball and I thought I weigh dig backs or one of my favorite powerplays archival fines. I like to go back. In the archives for my newsletters talk a little bit about the first dominant force in women's basketball history in college basketball history Imaculada a small school in Pennsylvania that had about five hundred people attending all women They won the first three national championships. This was when it was the A. W. Women's Basketball Tournament the Association for Intercollegiate Athletics. For Women But they were part of some big moments in women's basketball history. The first being when they defeated Maryland. Eighty two forty eight on January twenty six nineteen seventy five in college park. That was a very first televised women's basketball game and then a just about a month later. They became the first women's basketball team to play in Madison Square Garden and they played against Queens College. And I thought I would read some excerpts from the Daily News Article Setting up this game because as you if you're familiar with Daily News articles than this won't be surprised. It says at one thirty this afternoon. A bunch of longhaired basketball players will step onto the garden court and into history for the first time in a major sports arena the players will be wearing. Mascara role I. It goes on to describe that there are two major differences between the UCLA program. Y'All Run by John. Wooden at the time. And you know the IMMACULATA which. Who's coach was Cathy Rush? Who's making that? Think four hundred and fifty dollars a year at the time so the first major difference that they harp on is the fact that she will allow both genders into locker room. Five minutes after the game so it was really funny reading back on this coverage. Because there's been all this stuff about can women be in the men's locker room but at the time they were there was all this girl? Clutching will the man go into the women's Locker Aldridge or may all so she did laugh? Let them in. And she said it would be sexist. If I didn't to close out this Daily News preview he said the mighty Max which was the name for Imaculada play a swarming eyelash to eyelash smeared the lipstick pressing defense and a run and shoot offense led by their slick playmaking guard. Marion Crawford and Mary Crawford is the one and only Marianne Stanley women's basketball legend. Who is the coach of the head coach of the Indiana fever this year? So full story. There is a grey Comic of course to go with it. That's in the locker rooms of course and It was actually a great game. Unlike the first televised game which was a blowout They be Queen Sixty five to sixty one and what everybody said was one of the Best Basketball Games ever played up until that time. Wow that's amazing. In twelve thousand people were there are so where exactly is the Macula? Well I think it's about thirty miles west of Philly. You not far from Valley forge historical park if you WanNa make like a a road trapping. Yeah I mean look. This is sports history before the big programs started investing in Women's sports. It was a small women's colleges that were really where women's sports were being made. In the coach I love said that she didn't have spending time recruiting. She did have to spend time on the phones reporting her results to newspapers after the game. So so I do not have an F. I. O. F. Mu just spending too much time looking at the instagram accounts for all the cheerleaders as one does after watching chair. But I do want to say that the archival stuff that you have in power plays is amazing and infuriating but also entertaining at times. The one that was the most recent was about a suggestion that women needed to stop playing soccer because of potential. Oh she's by getting hit by the ball. Oh yeah like it's GonNa ruin both your ovaries. The pelvis isn't strong enough for women to play also Yeah the ball could hit the breasts which would damage any ability to be a woman. Really I think that was overall So this is what's wild to me about this stuff is. I consider myself fairly. You know fairly young and I was born in eighty six and I think the article from that archive which was from a Russian news service but it was just ten years before I was born. People were saying you know like we're not talking about the you know the nineteen twenties like this is all within the lifetimes you know that They were saying this. These type of sports are too dangerous for women and it's too threatening for men which is what ultimately came to the women who who created the kind of soccer boom and the US like they were growing up while articles. That were being right. Yeah like it was. That was all part of it. They're women in our lifetime decrypt playing basketball when he was twenty. Four th ranked. Yeah nothing McGraw. I mean legendary coach. Like when she's learned basketball it was you know six on six and she was. She was the rover right. All the more reason to subscribe to that is our show for today our producers Melissa Kaplan to listen to past shows and subscribe or just reach out could sleep dot com slash. Hang up and you can email us at hang up at slate dot com pure still here. I'm guessing you might want even more hang up and listen and our bonus segment this week. We talked about the. Us Women's soccer teams people pay suit in the men's teams recent expression of solidarity there. Some disputes over. What soccer is soccer? Should be you know. There's a lot of drama. Because the money making entities are essentially the two national teams right by the mandate of us. Soccer is not just to run these two national. It's to grow the game of soccer at the grassroots level. Your that conversation joins slate plus. It's just thirty five dollars. For the first year you can sign up at slate dot com slash hangup plus for Joel Anderson and Linda Gebze Josh Levin members on move eighty and thanks for listening.

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College Athlete Gets Out The Vote, Soccer Remembrance, Adam Greenberg

Only A Game

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College Athlete Gets Out The Vote, Soccer Remembrance, Adam Greenberg

"This is only a game. I'm Karen gibbon in her freshman season Madison Roberts had an immediate impact. On the university of California Berkeley, women's lacrosse team. I'm a bit of a world class hair braider yet Madison braids, her teammates hair airplay on over. Let team is very crucial skill to have around as a sophomore though, Madison began to think more about her role off the field if I'm gonna have to hair I'm gonna make count for something only games. Matthew stock has the story. Gale Robert says her daughter Madison has always brought a sense of activism to lacrosse field. You know, everyone would bring a bunch of water bottles, the disposable kind. Sometimes people would leave him on the field. She was very conscious of that. And picking them up after the games and would say, you know, let's get a really good water bottle. If you're unhappy with something she would say, okay, do something about it. Gill says social consciousness runs in the family. Her own father taught her the importance of voting and she passed on those lessons to Madison in her siblings. Back when they were little, you know, there were still like a voting booth that had a curtain, and she'd be like can I go with you can I come with you. And so would her twin brother and her other siblings? But she particularly I think really enjoyed it. And, you know, lift them up and read off the names, and who I plan to vote for and that it was important just to vote and she would pull the lever hit the button for me, and they would give her a little sticker. I voted you know, it was very sweet and very touching Madison continue to learn about civic engagement through extracurriculars in high school when she was eighteen she spent the day of the twenty fourteen midterm elections, volunteering at her precinct. She loved it. She came home really jazzed about the people were great. And it was so neat to see a big turnout and very much a positive thing for her. So when she got tired of braiding hair for her college teammates, Madison took. A new approach. I was like you my sophomore now like I don't have to just rate hair. I remember being out of fall ball tournament in Seattle, and it was pouring rain outside. And I was like I'll braid your hair, but you have to register to vote. And if you already are go teammate to register, and then I'll do it Madison. Teammates didn't seem to think much of it at the time Madison was known for this kind of thing. But this fall she decided to ramp up her voter registration efforts. She asked her head coach what more she could do. Choose like put together a presentation showing what you're gonna do. And I'll give you time on Friday. We all gathered and our locker room, I told everyone to bring their laptop Madison took a poll at the start of the team meeting. She found that only forty percent of her teammates were registered to vote. And honestly that's not out of the ordinary for a group of young women eighteen to twenty two. So I wasn't shocked by it. I'm more excited that I had the opportunity to make an impact on sixty percent of my team Madison began with a disclaimer this wasn't politically motivated, I could care less. What your opinion is so much as I want you to have one and feel invested in feel motivated to use your voice, she showed her team data from recent elections and explained that while young people make up a third of the electorate less than half showed up to vote in the most recent national election from their shared the links that people needed for every single state. I think within thirty minutes I had all thirty five of my teammates, either registered to vote or if they already were registered they time to print their teeth outs. And I got Catholics to reimburse me to buy stamps, envelopes of people were able to send those out, and they're like, honestly, I wouldn't have done this without you. I kind of realized if I just get hands on with people and walk them through this show them the right links. They're going to do the right thing and move in the right direction. Madison reached out to the rest of the head coaches at Cal several of them invited her to speak to their teams about the importance of voting since then she's also organized registration tables at Cal, volleyball and football games. She's often seen walking around campus wearing her Calix backpack. When I'm wearing my gear, I'm very conscious of the community that I'm representing and not perpetrating negative stereotypes about dumb jocks, the best way I can think of to counter those stereotypes is by just being the opposite of them Madison has lacrosse practice and conditioning for several hours every day. She goes to class does her schoolwork insurance with a bike share program and helps on a research project about low income housing. And on top of all that she's gone all in on getting out the vote on campus when something matters to you make time for it. And I really wanna see kids. My age feel empowered and feel like their voice matters and get them activated. We are a little bit more invested in what's happening right now. But I think we're super likely to go post about it on social media complained about it to a friend, and then not actually do sling about it. And here our political system is set up to give you a voice, and how cool is that? That story came from only games Matthew stock depending on where you live. There may still be time for you. To register to vote will linked to more info at only a game dot org, and if you are registered and haven't voted early like I did head to the polls on Tuesday to cast your ballot. We mean, it if you haven't voted yet you really should head to the polls on Tuesday. And here's another way, you can make your voice heard you can cast your vote for only a game from your couch or well walking your dog with just a couple of taps on your phone subscribed. Only game on apple podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you listen. While you're there leave us a review, you can pitch a story for an upcoming show or tell us about a recent round table guests that you really liked your vote for only a game will help other listeners. Find our show. It's time for three stories, you should know. I love we'll be basketball. We don't usually start this segment with a commercial for a wealth management service. But here goes in the ad that drop this week, a boy and girl compare their future basketball accomplishments, and it doesn't go well for the boy in college. I'll be third team. All American first team all American three times two final fours. Three straight final fours back to back toback biggie. Second team big east player of the year until lower contract. Four million dollars. My rookie contract will be forty thousand dollars. Ouch. I'm joined this week by the Wall Street Journal's Rachel Bachman and NBC sports. Boston's Kyle Draper, welcome. Thanks so much. Karen? Hi, Karen, the WNBA players opted out of their contract this week. That means that the current CBA will expire after the two thousand nineteen season players are not asking to be paid on par with NBA players, but they are asking for better working conditions more marketing to help the league grow. And access to the league's books. So that they can better assess how much they deserve to be paid. All of this seems pretty reasonable to me NBA player share in half of that league's revenue. Best estimates suggest that the women earn about twenty percent. And I know that the WNBA brings in less money, which means a larger percentage of the revenue goes towards just keeping the lights on. But at the very least the league needs to sit down and show the women why it can't pay them the kind of money they earn playing overseas during the WNBA off season playing in the WNBA shouldn't be a side gig. And the league will never grow unless they treat. Their superstars like superstars. Rachel are you with me I am. I think that the the league certainly doesn't have much to lose by opening the because last time I checked I think that the minimum WNBA salary was about one tenth of the minimum NBA salary. So they're really not gambling a whole lot from where I set to ask for to be reopened. And we're really living the golden age. Age of sports unions. You know, the the NFL the NBA certainly majorly baseball's always had a very strong union. So it makes sense that the WNBA would take a cue and fight firts rights. Well, as you guys know, whether it's in basketball football, baseball, whatever the sport is in my opinion, the product is the athletes on the field. And so we are seeing in the NBA with LeBron James taking control of his situation his free agency situation, and it's wonderful to see two women banding together because it's not just about money. It's also about working conditions about marketing, the fact that these teams have to travel commercial flights to me is is ridiculous. These are international superstars, and they should be treated as such in. So there's clearly something going on here. And like you said, we should see the books opened up. It's a shame that they're not what does the WNBA have to hide. And so no, I think this is a win. For the players in. And if they stay together, I think we will see some changes. Yeah. I mean, it's certainly the math is really unknown. But I find myself thinking, well, if these players aren't underpaid, why wouldn't you open up the books? Rachel, what do you have for us? Well, the rainy women's champions of the Boston New York marathons will line up for the New York marathon on Sunday. And for the first time in decades, they're both American but American women are not the fastest marathoners Kenyans and easy opiates still clocked. The fastest times does Linden one. Boston by slogging through terrible weather, others dropped out and Chilean Flanagan one New York last year when the Kenyan merica tie who'd want it three times earlier had a bad race. So should we care that the US women aren't the fastest in the world? If they're finding ways to gut out these races and win. I think it's it's more impressive that they are gutting it out because when you look at, you know, marathon runners traditionally. The Americans aren't viewed as the fastest in world. And so to me, they're they're beating the odds. They're overcoming the obstacles, overcoming the doubters to me. That speaks more. Yeah. I don't think fans care whether they're runners are the fastest or whether they're using pacesetters or whatever fans just care about winning. They don't care if it's an ugly win in fact, if it's an ugly when they say our runners the toughest, right? And I've been to Kenya. I've hung with running fans there. And they say our runners are the smartest they know to use pacesetters, they know do train in a certain way, and they're the best because they're the smartest and the fastest. So I think everybody's just really likes to win. Right. Hey, this is this is a front running culture absolutely in the US. And one of the reasons why the American women are doing so well is because they and some of the of the American men have copied the Kenyans and vio- paeans and having these training groups, he's elite training groups that run and train together make themselves better east Africans have done this for decades and more recently, the US has adopted this and made some progress Kyle. It's your turn. And I know you have a controversial this is one that should be the front page of every major newspaper in America as you guys. Not Boston Red Sox won their fourth World Series tied on the last fifteen years. It's sort of becoming Titletown understand that. But there seems to be some new phenomenon some new traditions being done at the celebration parade here in Boston a ninety year old fan threw a can of beer and actually hit Alex Cora and his daughter as they were going by on a championship flute. I'm. All for celebrating. I'm all for partying. Maybe this is my get off my lawn segment here might get off my lawn take. But when fans are throwing beers at players, there's another guy he broke part at a World Series troop, and they're throwing them because they want them to drink because they want the mad at like in the players get into it. But I think maybe we've gone just a little bit too far when when a manager and his daughter gets hit when the World Series trophy gets broken and damaged. Maybe there needs to be some unwritten rules. Baseball's the sport of unwritten rules, right? Maybe there needs to be unwritten rules when it comes to celebrating championships. No throwing beer. I don't understand win net became cool. I it doesn't seem cool to me. Rachel, maybe this is just a case of Boston. Not being able to have nice things. I remember way back in the day. When my Minnesota Twins won the for their first World Series, eighty seven, and you know, we got out of school. It was amazing. And there were something between four hundred thousand million people lining the streets, the twin cities to greet our our heroes. And I think there was maybe one arrest for a guy who ripped a license plate off a police car. And that was it. I mean, it was bliss, of course, you know, Minnesota's not accustomed to this many parades. Maybe people were just too blissed out to cause any damage to the last one, right? Well, ninety one. One again. And I think there was a parade. But it certainly was not on the level of eighty seven interesting. I'm Philadelphia native. And so two eagles had their Super Bowl Paret. I don't remember beers being thrown or anything like that. But I do remember, you know, some neighbors where we're upset because there are no porta-pottys out there. And so as you know, you start drinking start celebrating you got to relieve yourself. And so maybe next time to eagles are Sixers or whoever wins the title, they'll through some porta-pottys out there too. Yeah. I think the entire problem is that pasta just gets too many of these things. I mean there there is this kid. They call him the sign kid, which is a really dumb name. But okay that he's the sign kid. He's been alive for sixteen years. There have been eleven championship parades in his lifetime. He's been to eight of them. And I think people are just trying to one up themselves. I mean, personally, I am tired of writing the commuter rail with revellers who are drunk at seven thirty. In the morning. Can't on Halloween this year. Right. Like come on Boston. This isn't your first rodeo, you should know the pitfalls of championship rating there before they say what what would only post to say about throwing a full beer as someone to invite him to drink it. I mean, this is not how you're supposed to do. Like deadly weapons. Right. You know, you should be drinking. Let the players do their champagne thing, my guess for this week's edition of three stories. You should know have been the Wall Street Journal's Rachel Bachmann. Thank you. Rachel. Thank you and Cowdrey of NBC sports Boston. Thank you. Thank you. In the fall of two thousand sixteen Alex Blackwell suffered a concussion while playing club soccer as she recovered her. Parents noticed something they weren't expecting changes to Alex's personality. Very subtle changes over weeks and months that we believe began somewhere around the first of the year about two to three months after the concussion that story's coming up on only a game from NPR. This message comes from only a game sponsor Samuel Adams of all the beers. Sam Adams has ever brewed Boston lager is their all time favorite with its distinctive. Balance of spicy hops, sweet roasted Molson's mood finish. It's still the test of time and helped launch the whole craft beer revolution. Sam Adams, Boston lager, full flavored rich and complex. There's nothing quite like the taste of an original Boston beer company, Boston mass saver responsibly. Dr. Larry Nassar abused. His patients for decades AD remember telling the nurse. What if everyone thinks I'm lying believed? A new podcast from Michigan radio and NPR looks at how a team of women put one of the worst serial sexual abusers behind bars. I'm Karen, given Richard Blackwell is a software engineer from Atlanta soccer referee, father of two last September in the middle of the night. There was a knock at Richard store. He was surprised who's not surprised by pounding on their front door and insistent pounding on their front door and then to look out and see the police or standing out front. This is probably a good time dimension that parts of Richard story are difficult to hear it might not be for everyone. One of those difficult moments happened as soon as Richard opened his front door officer. What's going on? He said, sir. You have a sixteen year old daughter. So you need to check on her. And I left him standing at the door. And raced up the stairs. I think yelled Alex is. I ran up the stairs. Richard's wife. Kim was right behind him. We got to room door was correct. And her bedside lamp was on. She was laying on her pillows asleep with their laptop open. Only she she wasn't asleep. Richard Kim in the police officers started CPR, we knew the event for what it was. It was there was a letter laying on her bed. Of course this moment. We didn't have time to read that. But it was it was real clear. What had happened? The story of Alex Blackwell's. Life begins sixteen years before it ended. She was Richard and Kim's first child and from very young age. She had a lot of energy. She began walking it six months. She wasn't a big fan of sleeping either. So at four thirty in the morning. If Dora the explorer came on she wanted to be there watching it. But when Alex was to her parents noticed something was wrong. Her legs were starting to show like a cowboy on TV doctors diagnosed Alex with blouse disease, a growth disorder that causes the legs to blow out just below the knees. It happens sometimes with kids who walk early to bring her muscles and bones back into alignment doctors put Alex's legs in braces. And she wore those for gosh, a probably a year she wanted out of them so badly, but she learned to run in them. She would go bust in by clink clink clink clink, not unlike the the movie for for his Gump. Yes. Forrest Gump was the same thing. And when Alex came out of those leg braces, she was a speed demon. And that began her sports career. Alex, founder south added disadvantage against taller girls in swimming and basketball, but she was just the right size for soccer. Her sister discovered the same thing, she's two years younger Alex was a bit of an introvert her sister, Grayson as an extrovert both of them very sports capable when it became clear that both of his girls were going to. Excel it soccer, Richard became a referee and started working his way up the ranks. That's when he realized something that in retrospect gives him cause for concern sucker is a much more aggressive sport. I think than a lot of people think when you're on the field, and you're not a hundred yards away. Like, the parents, and the coaches, you see these things up close and soccer is not unlike football in the type of contact that you have or hockey. Alex's first concussion. Didn't happen on the soccer field. She hit her head on a friend's open locker fell down and hit her head again. She was in seventh grade. I'm not sure we saw anything that concerned us other than it was several months before we felt she was fully recovered Alex's second concussion came during the two thousand sixteen club soccer season. Alex was a centre forward and one of her favourite moves was to slide into the ball and crush it into the goal. But that's that's also sort of a backwards motion. Just like sliding into home plate, she slipped backwards, and and and hit her head as she did. But at the time we were at the game. It didn't seem remarkable to us. A week later. She had another match similar type thing. And she said it hurt when she hit again, it was it was unremarkable at the time. But later that night, she started having headaches and the headaches getting worse and worse and worse. So we took her to get checked out. And they said that there appeared to be Pryor injury, the weaker to back and Alex responding. Yeah. I I did hit my head. And I was okay. The head injuries happened in the fall of two thousand sixteen and as the initial concussion symptoms, headaches, nausea, brain fog started to fade, Richard and Kim noticed something they weren't expecting to see changes to Alex's personality. Very subtle changes over weeks and months that we believe began somewhere around the first of the year about two to three months after the concussion. Alex had always been an introvert. So I reach. Didn't think much of it? But it kept getting worse. She was fine hanging out one on one. But she felt uncomfortable. When our friends wanted her to join them in groups, it got to a point where she just she just stopped and she would say, no, I'm not going. I don't want to. Alex was diagnosed with mild, depression and social anxiety. She was prescribed medications in started seeing therapist regularly. And then came the next blow so the blouse disease turn back around and she was beginning to have knee problems, and she needed to either quit sports or or have the surgery, and we we left that to her Alex had already decided that she wanted to be a doctor someday her future was academic not athletic. But Richard says she was looking forward to playing on our high school soccer team. They were expected to go back to the state championship. Alex wanted to be a part of that. So she chose surgery. Doctors told Richard that the procedure was nothing to worry about go. Yeah, we're just we're going to soar bone in half and twister ankle around ten degrees. And then we'll screw it by together. And it'll be fine. Nothing to it. We do it all the time. Takes my breath away. But that's what they did. Is. It turns out as you're gonna magin. There was a lot of pain associated with that doctors operated on one leg. And then the other which meant that Alex was in a wheelchair or on crutches for the next six months. Richard says Alex craved the endorphin release that comes with exercise. She longed join her teammates on the field and not just on the sidelines. And while doctors at the time did not connect Alex's, depression and social anxiety to the concussions. She suffered her father. Now knows they played a role looking back now with much more clarity is best. I can do just one year after the fact that were number of factors. I believe if we could have taken any one of those out, we might not be having this conversation today. Late in the summer of two thousand seventeen Alex told her therapist that she'd been thinking about suicide that becomes of course, a red alert event for any therapists doctors quickly diagnosed the problems, they blamed a change in her prescription. They cited her lack of exercise and her eating habits. These were all things that they were very comfortable that they could adjust were you reassured very much. So yes, Alex was telling us that. Yes. This is a big difference. I'm much better. Now that brings us back to September two thousand seventeen Alex's school was closed for a couple of days as it Lanta recovered from hurricane Irma Alex was at home and I walked by her bedroom. And she was sitting on her bed with their laptop open and her headphones on listening to music and she saw me walked by her door. And she pulled her headphones up. And I said yo can and she says, yeah. Yeah. I'm okay, dad. And how much later was the Knockin your door that was about five in the evening and the knock was around one thirty in the morning. Alex had been talking to her boyfriend on the phone. He's the one who called for help by the time, Richard and his wife found her. She wasn't breathing and had no pulse. Richard and Kim performed CPR until the ambulance arrived. Just a few minutes later Alex was rushed to the hospital for two hours. Richard watched as a team of doctors, and nurses tried to bring his sixteen year old daughter back, but they came to a point where they head exhausted. Every every drug that they could give her and the staff was physically exhausted. And just like that. They looked up and. There's there's nothing that prepares apparent for that moment. Richard says the son was just coming up when he and Kim drove home they were in shock. He doesn't remember much from the next day. I think we does off a little bit during the night, but around five AM, I just I couldn't lay in bed anymore, and I was beginning to fill this. I say the word compulsion. A need to write down. What happened? I felt that I needed to tell the story right now. Richard sat down at his desk and wrote a warning to other parents he was open about how Alex had died. He mentioned her concussions while playing soccer and called for better protections for young athletes. Richard gave his essay title is your daughter. Okay, check. Again, he posted it on Lincoln. He's never been active on Facebook or Twitter and a lot of people noticed in some ways. I think it was their people me. But I also felt that Alex was nearby and each time that I talk including today, I reach out NASCAR Alex help me. Share your words. I think she does Richard sometimes finds himself at his computer unable to focus on work. And that's when he research is all the things he didn't know while Alex was alive. He studies the link between concussions and mental health. He reads scientific studies on experimental treatments for depression. He advocates he rallies. Meanwhile, Richard's younger daughter, Grayson has choices of our own to make does your other daughter still play soccer. We don't know. She has not made it to a practice yet. Every every Monday and Wednesday. She said, I'm going to practice tonight debt. Okay. And each evening some event comes up. So we're not sure. When I first started talking to Richard. I thought this was a story about soccer about how concussions are more prevalent than parents realize about calls to limit headers about whether head protection could help. But soccer is only part of the story. Alex was a speed demon. There's only so much that could have been done to keep her safe on the soccer field, and as much as it seems like a story about suicide Richard says, it's not that either. He doesn't talk about Alex's death to raise awareness about suicide. He does it because he hopes to help people change the way they think about depression, Alex, embarrassed by the stigma of her depression diagnosis, she was embarrassed to be having thoughts of suicide. But maybe she didn't have to be. Maybe that is something that can be fixed. So Richard shares Alex's words as often as he can. And by sharing the words of his daughter who wanted to be a doctor Richard Blackwell is starting to heal. I can laugh a little bit. Now that I couldn't six months ago. That's we are. We are so much better. And we're moving ahead because what else can you do. Well, I'll tell you. What else you can do you? Can you can recognize it for what it was? And you can do everything you can to help other families avoid where we are today. And that's what we're doing. If you are somebody, you know might need help the national suicide prevention lifeline is available twenty four seven at one eight hundred two seven three talk that's eight hundred two seven three eight two five. Adam Greenberg is running for Connecticut state Senate, and he's used to getting strange looks when he tells voters he played major league baseball. Once I start getting that. I'm like, I'm the guy, and they let me you're the guy. Yep. I'm the guy that got hit. That's just ahead on only game. And you can follow us on Facebook and Twitter at only game NPR. What's unique about the human experience? And what we all have in common. I'm guy Roz every week on Ted radio hour, we go on a journey to the big ideas, emotions and discoveries that fill all of us with wonder find it on NPR one or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Karen given next week on only a game Valentino Dixon spent twenty seven years in jail after a wrongful murder conviction. He's out now. Thanks in part to his love of sport. He's never actually played. But now Charlie Pierce joints for a look at the week's news. Hi, charlie. Hey, karen. We spoke last week of the mess at Maryland. The toxic miss if you will this week Maryland announced that head football coach DJ Dirk in would not be fired. In unrelated news, the university. President would be retiring, then the university president announced that Durkan was fired after all explain please. Yes. Last week. We talked about the toxic mess at the university of Maryland, which this week against all odds became more toxic in a bigger mess. I don't know what they're doing down there. But it appears that. That the tipping point came when the players all got together and said, we're just not gonna play for this guy. Yeah. Anytime college athletes assert their rights against the people who are exploiting them for a lot of money. They get a cheer from me. They brought Durkan back for forty eight hours or something done. They fired him. But they brought back the training staff who carried out the orders that ended up with a guy being dead. These people clearly don't know what they're doing among those who were outraged by the university's original decision. Not fire jerkin was the student government association. They had planned a rally with support from college Democrats and college Republicans finally something both sides of the aisle within shouting distance of Washington bipartisanship. Wow. And at bottom. The state of the cases guy died and a guy died because of stupid macho football coaches decision not to look at warning signs, and that should be the lesson should be the lesson for all football players at major programs. You don't have to put up with the sort of stuff. You don't have to risk your lives for some alumni wearing camelia in section three hundred and fifty five Charlie. The Boston Red Sox have won another World Series. Yes. They have. I have said it a few times this fall. The city of Boston did not need another championship. So I don't want to talk about what it means to the city of Boston. But I would like to talk about what it means to Puerto Rico. Yeah. This is Alex Cora has turned into a legitimate national kind of superstar. He's determined. He's going to bring the trophy to Puerto Rico. He went out of his way afterwards. The shout out to the island. He magically did everything right is baseball manager for the last month and a half. It's now part of reds. Sox mythology that the only thing that Alex Cora asked for when he agreed to come to Boston was a plane filled with supplies for Puerto Rico. And now, I kind of expect that someone's going to write a ballot for him or maybe an epic poem. I think he deserves at least a folk song. Yeah. Hall of Famer Willie McCovey died this week. He played nineteen seasons. With the San Francisco Giants, do you have any Willie McCovey stories the one memory everybody? My age has which is almost winning the World Series in nineteen sixty two but hitting screaming line drive, right at Bobby Richardson, the Yankees, obviously, he played in the shadow of elite news. So he didn't never got the credit. I mean, I think if you bet one hundred people in a bar whether or not Willie McCovey hit five hundred home runs you'd probably win the money from fifty eight of them. We actually did. He was a great baseball player and a measure of how the game has changed. He was six foot four and people called him stretch. She was tall baseball. Everybody. Six foot four now. Derrick rose scored fifty points on Wednesday night. And I feel like I have to repeat that Derrick rose who plays for the Minnesota Timberwolves scored fifty points on Wednesday night were you as surprised as everyone else? I was surprised I'm a little bit nauseated by Derrick rose comeback narrative that's up around since one of the things coming back from is a sexual assault case, which is still under adjudication. But this guy was capable before the injuries at of doing this. I'm going to spare the rest of our listeners redemption narrative beyond that. And I think, you know, other players like LeBron James should shut up about why he's still a superhero and Tom tiptoe saying he has courage humility and character it remains to be seen. How much character really has Cleveland coach to Ron Lou was fired last weekend. After the Cavs started their LeBron season Owen six, but this is the same guy who coached that team to three straight Eastern Conference championships. And it's not lose fault that LeBron went to LA does this firing make any. Sense in the context of professional coaches. Get fire yet makes sense. They started off owing six doesn't look like it's going to get any better in the coaches, always a scapegoat in that situation in the logic that exists in the real world having lost one of the two or three greatest players of all time and having worked for a management and put nothing in there to alleviate that possibility. No, it doesn't make any sense at all Theron Lou will find another place to coach earlier this week while his team was still oh and six Oakland Raiders coach Jon Gruden said that he gets a lot of calls from people dying to play for his team that was before they lost again on Thursday night. I'm wondering if those people are currently unemployed, or maybe they just haven't looked at the NFL standing entirely possible that they're actually dying right now Oakland is playing like the dead. Jon Gruden is going to wind up laughing stock if he isn't one already he should've stayed in the broadcast booth, which is a great gig, by the way, I don't know why anybody ever leaves because he's going to go about two and fourteen this year and finally Charlie twenty two years ago. And reserve game between Manchester. United and Liverpool. Andy Cole broke both his legs the defender on that play a man named Neil Ruddock. Now says that he intentionally caused the injury. But don't worry. It's not as bad as it sounds, right? No. Because he only meant to break one leg. This is one of the unsolved mysteries of this world. Did Neil the Razor Ruddock really mean to break both his legs. Or was it? Just a plan that went awry, apparently, it was a plan that went awry. You can find the sports writing Charlie Pierce at Sports Illustrated, any joins us each week here at only game thinks early. Thanks, karen. In what I think is fair to say is I in the twenty five year history of only game we're going to close out this week show by dropping in on the state Senate race in Connecticut's twelfth district. Here's only games Martin Kessler. This is what it sounds like trying to keep up with Republican state Senate candidate Adam Greenberg on the campaign trail. The can't take the dramatic effect. Greenberg. Definitely isn't the first or only candidate to run up and down driveways to knock on doors as possible, but he's probably faster than most. You were known for your speed, right? He was the thirty seven year old Greenberg. Spent twelve years playing professional baseball one-season he stole fifty three bases. But even more than his speed. Adam greenberg's baseball career is defined by a single moment if it hadn't happened. He might not be running for office now. And he says it comes up every day. He's out campaigning. I mean, I always say Greenberg for state Senate, I grew up here in Gilbert Branford played major league baseball. And and then they usually get that little look they go who do you play for once? I start getting that. I'm like, I'm the guy, and they let me like, you're the guy. Yep. I'm the guy that got hit. Back on July. Seventh two thousand five Adam greenberg's baseball career wasn't yet tied to a single play. He was a twenty four year old outfielder in the Chicago Cubs organization, a promising prospect on the teams AA affiliate the diamond Jaxx on this particular evening, Greenberg and his club wrapped up a series in Kodak Tennessee in the team that I was on. They were going down to Jacksonville Florida on a twelve hour bus ride and myself and Matt Moore, and who are two outfielders on the team were told you're going to stay behind, and you might get a call to go to AAA or you're going to get on a plane and fly to Jacksonville to meet the team so adamant that were left to wait at the days in the Chicago Cubs were playing the second leg of a double header adamant Matt turned on the game. And we received a phone call from our agent who was representing both of us. And he said Rudy the comes more than you've ever rooted against them in your entire life. So we didn't know why. But. And I started to kind of root against the cubs. The cubs lost in less than fifteen minutes later greenberg's phone rang. It was diamond Jaxx manager Bobby Dickerson, and he said, hey, can you favorite put the phone speaker? So I did. And man, I were kind of huddled up around the phone and Bobby said, hey, guys just wanted to know you're going to be flying to meet the team in Florida. And I looked at each other like. Okay. Whatever. And then when he said next is you're not coming to meet us, you're going to Miami. And you guys are going to be on the Chicago Cubs. The cubs were scheduled to play the Florida Marlins. The next morning Greenberg flew first class for the first time, they could've sat me on a little prop plane and a tiny little seat with three people sitting on my lap, and I had been happy. When Greenberg got to his hotel room in Florida. There was a bottle of Dom Perignon waiting for him. I'll never forget I had my my suitcase, and I always used to leave it fully packed and just take out what I needed because in the minors. You're always like anticipating that you're gonna get a call. You're gonna go somewhere. And this time I took out all of my clothes because I said the first time I ever get to the big leases when I'm in unpack and plan to be here Greenberg sat out his first game with the cubs. He started the second game on the benches. Well, but he had a feeling he was going to give chance at the plate bat with me, basically the whole game. Batting gloves on sure enough in the ninth inning. With the cubs up two runs bench coach dick pole called over to him. And he just says green and get about your hitting for the pitcher. And I'm like the bats attached to my hands. I don't need to get that helmet. As he stepped to the plate Greenberg remembers thinking be aggressive, Adam Greenberg, the youngster stepping in. I remember everything vividly Greenberg. Lefty was facing left-handed pitcher, Valero Delos Santos. I remember the ball being released right away. Greenberg. Says it looked like the ball was headed straight at him. The thought was oh my God. Stay in here. Don't bail because this? I major the that first pitch. I don't wanna see a curveball coming over and me bailing out for strike one. But then he realized the ball wasn't curving in need to get out of the way of issues Ardy too late. So I just turned myself into the catcher just to try anything to just get out of the way of it. And that was that was. Goodness. It caught the base of the helmet this helmet went flying. And the the noise was the loudest scariest noise almost like a like a shotgun right right near year. That was absolutely nowhere for him to go on that fastball. And the scariest part was my eyes rolled in the back of my head. And I grabbed my head because based on the sound where it hit and how much it heard. I thought my head split open. And I said two words three times, I said, stay alive stay alive. Stay alive. The trainers rushed onto the field. And then they sat me up the training staff sat me out, and they started asking me a couple of questions how many fingers, and then they then the last question they said where were you two days ago? And I said without batting an I said I was in the minor leagues. And I'm not going back, and they all started kind of laughing like all right? I guess he's all right Greenberg. Thought he was too. He walked off the field. He didn't even go to the hospital. But when he woke up the next morning light bothered him. He says he couldn't eat. He tried to watch the cubs next game from the dugout, but he ended up having to retreat to the clubhouse to sleep still doctors thought it was just a mild concussion and Greenberg figured he'd be back on the field and a couple of days. He went to his parents house in Connecticut and tried to recover in. Then something strange happened. I try to sleep and I rolled over in bed, and my eyes went uncontrollably side to side. And then what followed was a migraine type headache for the next few hours. So it was at that moment that I'm like, I don't know what the X going with me. This isn't good. And now I start looking at the timeline gun. Gonna be alright not just in three days. But I'm not going to be okay Greenberg. Started experiencing vertigo something he says he would struggle with for the next two and a half years. He says is visual alignment was thrown off. He was sent to the cubs training facility in Arizona. He eventually returned to the field. But not for the Chicago Cubs. He was back in the minors. And that next season he batted just two nine. I wasn't the same guy Greenberg. Played in double I for the next two seasons. There were stretches when he felt like the hitter he used to be. But by the end of the two thousand eight season he was out of the minors. He joined the Bridgeport bluefish and independently team it was looking like the only major league pitch. Adam Greenberg would face would be the one that knocked out of the big leagues. And because he'd been hit Greenberg hadn't even recorded in efficiency at bat finally in two thousand twelve following family campaign. The Miami Marlins signed Greenberg tool one day contract. So he. Could get one at that. As a major leaguer swing strikes out. You know, what he made it back out his? Got his. Greenberg retired from baseball after the two thousand thirteen season since then he's been working as a motivational speaker. He wrote a book and runs nutrition company, and he's been living in Connecticut with his wife Lindsay in two children. I got knocked down and the state of Connecticut is the same state of Connecticut is in in a bad place. And I looked at it from that perspective of okay? What can I do to help? Up until seven months ago Greenberg says he wasn't affiliated with a party. He says he doesn't agree with either sides, quote, extreme views, but he chose to run the Republican for a state Senate seat that's been held by Democrats since two thousand five so these days, Adam Greenberg, former outfielder is out on the campaign trail having conversations like this. So are spending is out of control. You can't have the highest gas tax plus tolls. You can't have three hundred business regular nine thousand business regulations and three hundred taxes plus tolls. The cost of goods are going to go up. And when we spoke Greenberg didn't seem very interested in talking about President Trump. I'm trying to run for state office represented the twelfth district. I don't really talk about anything on a federal level from the standpoint of what I'm going to be in charge or what I'm going to be trying to implement and trying to bring to politics. Greenburg who scientists cubs blue and red with the font that looks like it belongs on an old time baseball uniform says he often gets invited to join voters rec league baseball and softball teams. But he declines there hasn't been much free time ahead of Tuesday's election. This isn't exactly the place. He expected to end up back in two thousand five as he unpacked his suitcase and that Florida hotel room. But Adam Greenberg says he doesn't feel sorry for himself. No, no. I mean, and that's not me just saying, I really don't would I have loved, and I'm gonna be honest to been a part of the cubs World Series team better believe, but that wasn't my. So that's what I'm saying. I'm grateful for the gifts that. That story came from only games Martin Kessler. We've I read about Adam greenberg's campaign for Connecticut. State Senate in a New York Times article written by John Alta villa? Only a game is produced by Martin Kessler, and Gary Walla with help from Matthew stock additional help this week for Martin's dads slash oh. For rod Kessler. Thanks, our technical directors. Marquees neil. Our senior producer is me or final word comes from Adam Greenberg. Who reveals his first baseball nickname called me. Hoover. Hoover the vacuum cleaner. Because I had could scoop it all up already. Then I'm Karen given only game returns next week. Thanks for listening.

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Peter Sagal, Basketball Tragedy, Hall Of Fame Duo

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Peter Sagal, Basketball Tragedy, Hall Of Fame Duo

"This is only a game. I'm Jay Don day. You may know that our first guest is a pretty funny guy. And now the game where we ask accomplish people to accomplish something they won't think of as an accomplishment, but you might not know that Peter sago host of NPR's. Wait, wait, don't tell me is also a very serious runner. I don't think anybody's ever looked at me and said, whoa. That guy's along distance runner. They might say that guy probably moonlights as a fireplug or if that guy was wearing a skirt. He'd look a little bit like a dollar from doctor who I get that. Peter sago is run fourteen marathons one of which he finished in just three hours and nine minutes that's a pace of just over seven minutes per mile, but to get to this point in his running career, sailors gone through some dark moments only games Martin Kessler has this story before we talk about the period in his life. When he says he'd sometimes sneak off to the bathroom in the middle of the day. Stare at his protruding ribs and hips when he ran obsessively when he lost so much weight that his mother took him to the doctor Peter Sagan wants to make one thing clear, you need to say this before you have any conversation about men in body image, which is that women. Have it a thousand times worse? Women have been subjected to ridiculous standards of beauty that have changed much sure. To their frustration over centuries for men. It's more recent. Peter cycle started disliking his own body when he was young for whatever reason when you're an adolescent you start comparing yourself unfavourably to the rest of the world you start feeling your own insecurities quite vividly. I've never met. I wouldn't trust anybody who's totally happy with himself as a teenager. I kind of had a bad in. There are a lot of things about myself, and one of them was that I was a puppy little kid who was terribly out of shape. Saco was born in nineteen sixty five and grew up in suburban New Jersey. His father got caught up in the running boom of the nineteen seventies. He'd wake up early to run before work. I would laugh at him. I would make fun of him. I would say you went ran for four miles on. Where'd you get now you're just back here haven't sitting here eating pancakes? I think I had the better time. Don't you? I was a snarky. I I was destined for my job young. Boy, I think but as Saco entered adults and began to slacking his body. He started going to his father's bookshelf. In pulling down a particular book. It was Jim fixes the complete book of running the cover. The book has perhaps the platonic ideal of runners legs in mid stride. That runner was author Jim fix a one leg off flexing off the ground. The other sort of coming up next to it behind it striding forward and the legs are perfect thin lean muscular infect, so muscular. So you can actually pick out almost the tendons in the stations and the muscle. And I remember very vividly taking down that book and looking at that cover looking at those legs, and, you know, looking at my legs, which were sort of were and still are kind of thick and pudgy, and you couldn't see, you know, a muscle to be found. Saco says he would flip through the buck taking him the pen and ink drawings of very happy looking people. And when he was fifteen sale says he made a decision he realized he couldn't do anything about his acne or his social awkwardness. But maybe one thing I could do was actually do something about my my lack of shape, my lack of fitness. The fact that I was putty. So I asked my father if I could go running with them and much to his credit given the mockery that I, you know, subjected him to in the prior years, he said, yes. And inviting me, no, we didn't invite me. He woke me up the next morning and took me up for run. And and I remember I put on my kids. I remember they were kids because that's the brand we all had back in the seventies. I have this vague memory of them being are Ange, but I can't assure you that's true. And what imprint on memory is trauma? So I remember trying to follow my father out our suburban street, and then up a mild hill and really just dying might lungs were on fire. My head was swimming. We got about. Half miles. I'm done. I can't do. All right. Turn around go home, and it turned around, and I went home, very slowly, and it was miserable. But the next morning Peter sago put back on his orange shoes. I guess it just speaks my level of disatisfaction with myself that I was willing to get up and endure it again. And of course, because this is an aspect of running that, I think is always true. But especially when you're fifteen I improved quite rapidly Saco says that within a couple of months he was literally running circles around his father. He got obsessive about running Sega started racking up six or seven miles every single day, and he severely restricted his diet. I would literally go to the library and read cookbooks because I was so hungry. I needed to do something about food. So I would read about it. I remember watching TV in waiting for food commercials to come on. So I could look at the bowl of soup or the can of Dinty Moore, beef stew, or whatever it was. Because that's. How hungry was it sort of dominated my my waking life in how much weight did you end up losing? I lost about forty pounds sales mother became worried. She took him to the doctor. He was like, yeah. He's getting a little skinny it's. Okay. Running a lot seems healthy. No problem. You know, he didn't ask me like how much eating every day. And he didn't ask me. Like, maybe the most important question could've asked me was like, do you consider yourself skinny what would you have said if your doctorate asked do you think would have told him that I still thought of myself as fat or might maybe I said, I might have said something to the effect of. Oh, well, if I ate more than I'd get fat again or something like that. Although I was never diagnosed I think I was anorexic. The attitude is no he's not in trouble. Oh, getting in shape, always becoming Fleck? How wonderful and it doesn't mean. I was you know, suffering any less. I certainly wasn't very happy. At the time Seko says he began eating more his senior year of high school it helped that he started dating someone and eating meals with her in when he got to college. He was too busy and distracted to obsess about food. His running became sporadic, the weight eventually came back years past sago became a dad, and he started hosting a public radio show that you may be here. When you forget the change the dial after tuning into only a game, basically, I just became less active and more sedentary and one day. I went to the doctor's office for some sort of checkup any weighed is like all right. Two hundred pounds. Okay. Two hundred pounds. I'm five seven. That's not good. And I really freaked out. I was like it was almost as if all of that self loathing for my high school years came back and like oh my God. You've become the thing that you most feared. Saco started running again this time he didn't restrict his diet in a dangerous way. But he wanted to reach a healthier weight. And then as I reached forty in two thousand five I said to myself, you know, I'm gonna turn forty I guess I should run a marathon. That's a good thing to turn forty and you're afraid of dying. So Saco started training for the Chicago marathon. What did your wait wait colleagues? Make of the fact that you embarked on this first marathon, I think they probably endured it they endured it as sort of a midlife crisis sort of this weird thing that I was going and doing I think the main problem they endured was because I was getting up so early to go running every day. I would sometimes get very sleepy in the middle. And that became a problem. I'd have to Peter your right? And I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. But other than I mean, they've put up with a lot of grief for me over the years. I think this was one of the things to put up with. Saco says he had no idea how to train for marathon. He overdid it eventually injuring himself. He had to miss a month of training but on race day Sega lined up, and it was miserable. And the worst time because of course, I hadn't adequately trained. And I remember very vividly. There's sort of a dead spot in mile nineteen through twenty one of the Chicago marathon because you're running along rather desolate area running alongside the the freeway heading down south toward Comiskey park. And it's a very lonely place. And I remember just feeling so miserable and really wanting to quit. But I said to myself I've run, you know, nineteen twenty miles of Maratha if everyone a Finnish marathon off to go back and run twenty miles again just to get to this point as well finish Saco dead. And when he crossed the finish line after four hours and three minutes, a thought crossed his mind much to my amazement instead of saying to myself. Wow. That was great now. I guess I'll go hiking Apollo or something I said, I wonder if I can do that faster. Peter Sega l- considers this to be a turning point his motivation changed instead of running to exercise or to lose weight. He started running to improve his time. All of a sudden you're doing something that is a positive goal rather than a negative goal. Instead of abasing erasing yourself. Improve yourself a year later sago ran his second marathon, he cut forty minutes off his time and qualified for Boston. Doing it wrong is when you're trying to achieve standard that's external to you're trying to be the skinny fit cover model that you will never be and you will make yourself insane. If you attempt to do it the healthy way to do it is to start from position of how can I be the best version of myself that I can be I wanna talk about your love handle. Well, I brought them with me. So good. The men of my family were born with love handles. And and I know this from looking at my father and looking at my brother's, we will always have them. So you've accepted that I've these choice. Do I have I have accepted that I have love handles that. I don't have hair. There's nothing I can do about either. But while Sega has worked on accepting his own body. He sees ways in which society is sending more of the wrong messages to men I was watching because this is one of my enthusiasm game of thrones. And I was watching a scene with fee on gray. Joy. I'm a great joy a fight for rob. And my father both who's a sniffling character. He is by no means an admirable guy. And yet when he takes off his shirt he could have been a professional bodybuilder thirty years ago because that's just the standard. Now. Sago says back in the seventies. Kids Spiderman costumes were just plastic smocks with a picture of spider man's. Torso. Now, they come with foam muscles. It's weird to have an eight or nine year old boy walking around with these fake. Arnold Schwarzenegger physique. But there's this insane inflation on, you know, male body image that we're all sort of rolling, even as we speak. So maybe it's not so surprising. That sago says men are more likely to talk to him about depression and marital problems other things he's been open about than about their bodies. I think it'd be a lot easier for guys who have these issues to know that they're like in a lot of things, they're not entirely alone. Sago is doing his part. He's released his own book about running and in a nod to Jim fixes, the complete book of running the book he used to pull off his father shelf sale, titled it the incomplete book of running and he put his own legs on the cover because they're not Jim fixes legs. They never will be. They never could be. But that's the whole point. I mean in a weird way you can sort of describe my whole sort of mental and athletic journey from one point to another of wanting to have legs. Like, those two writing my own book putting my own legs in the cover and saying, yeah, they're my legs. And they're good enough to be in the cover of book my book, and that's the whole I think difference between trying to be something else. And trying to be the best practical version of yourself. That's way. Don't tell me host Peter sago. Our story was from only games Martin Kessler. A couple years ago. Bruce ciphers got a letter from the Indiana football hall of fame. It said that he'd been nominated for induction in my heart. I just felt that they hid kind of picked the wrong guy. That's coming up on only a game from NPR. This podcast is made possible by Samuel items for thirty four years Samuel Adams has made their Boston lager. Inefficiently Sam Adams Bruce with one hundred percent heirloom middle. Fru hops logging their beer for over a month. The Boston beer company Boston mass savor the flavor. Responsibly. Had we perceive our experience as humans who are we today? And who could we be tomorrow? I'm guy Roz on the radio. Our we go on a journey through the big ideas that animate our world each week. It's the Ted radio hour from NPR. I'm Jay Don day. And it's time for three stories, you should know US Olympic athletes are considering forming a union, and that's where we're going to start this week. I'm joined by the Wall Street Journal's Rachel Bachman and by Lindsey Gibbs of progress. Welcome back to both of you. Great to be here. Jay. Hi, thanks for having me ritual. What's going on? Well, J use Olympic athletes for years have been frustrated at what they see as. Lack of power in decision. Making at the US Olympic Committee and the Larry Nassar sexual abuse scandal, in gymnastics might have been there last straw, the UC's athletics advisory council made up of athletes elected by others in their sport said last weekend. They're considered forming a union they really signal they're serious about this by who invited as an adviser. Don Fehr, the former MLB players association executive director. Exactly, I mean, they they mean business, right? And he's he's not formally retained by them. But he was there to answer questions. And I think signal the seriousness of this consideration. I'm all for unions. I think they absolutely more power logistically, I think a hard time. Picturing exactly how this works considering the Olympic movement is of course, about so much more than just the athletes that make it to the Olympics. And there's so many sports, but just because it's hard doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, and they shouldn't take steps towards getting more power. And if they can figure out. A way to actually unionize. I think that could be a whole new world for Olympic athletes logistic sound so daunting, right? And you've got so many different sports, so many different athletes, different seasons different cycles. How'd you get everybody coordinated and I had the thought that initially? You don't wanna see these type of things in Olympics this than we like about them. You don't have lockouts or strikes, but we have seen in the past. If you're old enough to remember boycotts. We've seen for example, United States, stay home and convince him allies to do the same in nineteen eighty to protest Russia's invasion of Afghantistan the eastern bloc led by the then Soviet Union return the favor in nineteen Eighty-four. So if the decisions can be made for the athletes in why can't the athletes have some agency in their decisions and do what's in their best interest? Even if that means some type of labor shutdown when it comes with Olympics, Rachel, I think so I think you guys make good points about the difficulty. They might have an organizing what we understand. A union. But I do think they might end up with some sort of professional representation outside of what they have. Now, you know the advisory councils existed for a long time. But you know, they're all on tears. They're all athletes that are extremely busy. So I think they're realizing if they wanna have a meaningful voice, they really need to try something else. We're litigations for its. Lindsay. What do you have for us this past week? A Bill was shut down in the South Dakota legislature. That would have made sure that transgender youth could only participate in sports based on the gender on their birth certificate, not their gender identity. Activists. It said this would essentially ban transgender kids from participating in youth sports. What was no worthy about? This was the words that were used to defend the existence of the Bill which came directly from Artnews, Navratilova course, the LGBT or L GB champion of rights tennis legend herself, she had written up at in the Sunday Times saying that allowing transgender women in women's sports is cheating too argument at its most basic a man can decide to be female take hormones win everything in sight, and then go back and reverse decision. Now. Now, Martinez said that this was only pertaining to elite athletes in that. She did not mean this to be used on the grassroots level. But it's hard to see how she didn't see this coming. I think I we do knowledge that the world is changing faster than a lot of people are comfortable with. I think that's why you see reactionary Bill like this. But as we know thirty figures have banned people in the past from certain areas, pursuits, and most cases, we know that's very wrong. And these are cautionary tales, you know, any ban or prohibition has to be back with science reason not scare tactics. And you know, also with the legislature how about sending a signal to high school sports, not to take things too seriously by making on issues that really should stay at the local level with coaches, or maybe the high school sociation, I think they just waited in where they shouldn't have. And speaking waiting in where perhaps they shouldn't have to have Martina Navratilova long considered a champion of gay and lesbian rights in sports and beyond to have her words used. In this situation that think as prising and certainly for so many people disappointing but would serve to me is that reminder that it's hard to compact complicated issues into one convenient Monica just because someone such Martina Navratilova can be such a great champion for the gain lesbian caused that doesn't automatically mean. She's going to be a great champion for the transgender. 'cause absolutely. And I think the saddest thing is that she was just pushing false narratives she's pushing this fearmongering tactic. And it is disappointing. And I hope that she will listen and learn moving over to college basketball, the idea of shutting down has been in the news recently with regards Zion. Williamson the Duke star recently suffered a knee injury. A lot of people thought he should just sit out the rest of the season and prepare them so for the NBA draft. And there was a lot of pushback to that. But I notice that you don't have much of an argument whenever there's a suggestion or the actual forcing to take a redshirt season. You notice why you don't hear much argument because this is done. To protect the school. Right. They get more return on investment. They get another year of eligibility farm. We having more conversations about redshirt itself. If people are so put off by the notion of an athlete shutting down one reason, we're not having more conversations because I think at the very highest levels of college sports, red shooting is really on the wane college football coaches, for instance, many of them are on the three year plan. They assume that players were not stay one minute longer than the three year minimum. They have to before they enter the NFL draft. And so they wanna have guys on scheduled to maybe even have a chance to graduate in three years because they know they're not going to get recruits. If they're going to force them to redshirt in many cases, and I think the same is true. In college basketball. You know, the very best players coaches just accept they're not gonna stay longer than a year. And so no, college basketball coaches, right mind would force Zayn Williamson to redshirt because he's basically shooting himself in the foot and not benefiting from his services for that year. You know, you see it similarly used to deal with transfers, right? I see. The women's basketball game all the time forced to sit out for a year because you transfer schools, and they want to discourage these students from transferring and right it's all about what's in the best interest of the schools. It's probably time to rethink the whole system beyond time. Actually, I would say one idea that might help. But was actually suggested by the athlete directed Florida who just mused on Twitter one day. What about adding a fifth year of eligibility? Give everyone well in particular, high achieving academic prep athletes, you know, if they do well academe than as they enter college. They would be granted a fifth year eligibility potential. So there you have the academic accent of that they say they want right for these student, athletes and also that would help mitigate this redshirt issue. Right. You wouldn't have to worry about losing twenty five percent of your eligibility. If you redshirt a year because you would have that fifth year waiting for if you done well enough in school, like thank my guest for this week's edition of three stories. You. Should know. It's been Lindsey gives think progress in addition to the Wall Street Journal's Rachel Bachmann. Thank you Lindsey and Rachel. Thank you. Thanks so much. Earlier this week New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, pleaded not guilty to two misdemeanor. Counts of soliciting prostitution prosecutors alleged craft visited the orchids evasion. Dais bond Jupiter Florida in January that business allegedly has ties to an international sex trafficking. Ring all of this leaves patriots fans with the dilemma, here's only a games caring given he shows up on Sunday afternoon and lets out a deep sigh. The ticket holder has something on his mind. I have to figure out if we're giving up our season tickets. He says also port whatever, you decide the friend tells the ticket holder trying to be helpful the seats are in your name. This group of four has been attending patriots games together for as long as I've known them. No previous patriot scandal has created this crisis of conscience. Not spy gate, certainly not deflate gate. But the ticket holder is really troubled this time if only craft. Had come out and said he was sorry. The ticket holder says hopefully said he was still distraught. Over the death of his wife promise, the full weight of his charitable foundation. Would now be dedicated to put an end to human trafficking Myra died almost eight years ago. I say not being very helpful the league will suspend him, the friend predicts they've issued a statement the personal conduct policy. Applies the ticket holder, and I are not convinced. Would it change things? If none of the women were trafficked, I ask trying to be helpful. Yes. The ticket holder says, but with a place like that he had to know how could he not know that the women are sometimes traffic in a place like that? Patriots fans aren't alone in asking themselves these questions when one team picks up the player accused of domestic abuse or another trades for the guy who made homophobic comments fans, notice some walk away. But when it's the owner. Who's accused it feels bigger somehow more important. I just have to figure out if we're giving up our season tickets that ticket holder repeats all support whatever you decide the friend says the conversation could go around and around like this forever. How soon do we have to renew the friend finally asks soon the ticket holder says but not yet that's only games carrying given. In two thousand seventeen Bruce ciphers found a letter in his mailbox. It was from the Indiana football hall of fame. It said that I had been nominated to be inducted into the hall of fame cypress football coach from Indianapolis considered it a huge honor. But something began to bug him in my heart. I just felt that they hid kind of picked the wrong guy. He says he thought about that a lot he even prayed about it, and it became clear what he should do. Here's only games. Gary wallich. Back in the early eighties. Bob, telly was an assistant football coach at Ron collie. High a private Catholic school on the south side of Indianapolis one day, he made his way to a coach's meeting I walked into the gymnasium and a heard this lasting and giggling it was coming from Bruce. And another assistant named Ken Larose throw in each other off of the top of the stage into the wrestling match. And I made the big mistake of coming in and saying no world, are you guys doing that gave the rough housing coaches and ideal saw Bruce looked down and saw Kenny look down next thing. I know they're jumping down and they're chasing me catching me and taking me up and throwing me off of the stage into the manse throwing me around. Bob telly is a pretty small guy the guys tossing him around weren't they had played for Butler university. Bruce was a six foot. Two hundred pound running back. He was just an animal if you ever saw him run the ball for Butler university. You know, what I meant? He was just an animal. I still have teeth prints on my neck from where Bruce used to grant me and bite me wrestled me and do those kinds of things you actually have teeth marks. No, good good. But he did bite me a few. I think. Didn't had lunch that day. The rough housing went on for years. But Bruce and Bob story goes beyond childish antics. In fact, the marks they've made on each other's lives are deep and indelible. When Bob tally was in high school. He wanted to be an Indiana state trooper, however, there was a height requirement, and I didn't quite meet the requirement was five foot seven Bob's five foot five, but his stature didn't prevent him from playing football. He earned four varsity letters as a running back and form or in other sports. He graduated high school in nineteen sixty two years later while still an undergrad at Indiana University. Bob was offered a job at a new high school in Indianapolis called Bishop chartrand. He took it. I cleaned bathrooms. I taught a little bit and I helped coach all sports. But as far as Bob was concerned, he had moved to Indy for just one reason, I coached football. That was the main reason that I came up. Bob juggled his college studies with his new job. He lived on the top floor of the Bishop chartrand building and made regular trips between Indianapolis and Bloomington. Loved experience. My life was Dag on ball Joya to time. I loved it. Bob served as chartrand assistant football coach until nineteen sixty nine when the school merged with another to create Ron collie high. He was head coach there from nineteen seventy to nineteen Seventy-three. Posting modest record of twenty one and nineteen many credit him withholding the football program together during the difficult merger. Those were Bob's only four seasons as head coach in nineteen seventy four he became run collie highs athlete director, but he stuck with the football team. As an assistant a few years later. Bruce ciphers joined him on the coaching staff. Bob is amazing guy. He has a booming voice when he's coaching a huge personality. Just great sense of humor. And he was one of the best football coaches I've ever been around. But Bruce says Bob's personal interest in students, what distinguished him from most football coaches. He says Bob was always making the school rounds the motivate kids and relate to kids whether it's in the classroom or in the cafeteria during lunchtime or Friday nights during game. So this awesome guy as a system Bob and Bruce helped lead Ron collie high school to two state championships. Then in nineteen ninety Bruce was promoted to head coach he leaned on Bob during his rookie. Moments. I found myself off times on Friday nights. You know, if it was a fourth and one out at midfield or third and four on the eleven yard line going in whatever, you know, just ask in a Bob. What would you do here? And he give suggestions, and they almost always worked. Bruce was Ron collie highs head football coach for nearly three decades. He won seven state championships. Nearly two hundred fifty games and was coach of the year twelve times he retired from coaching in two thousand sixteen six years after Bob did on paper, Bruce has the much Guardia resume, but Bruce always attributes his success to what he learned from Bob. So a couple years ago when Bruce Scott that letter from the Indiana football hall of fame, he thought about Bob, nobody has impacted run college football the way, Bob totally has with all that he had done for the school and thousands of kids in our coaches. Bob was the mentor for. All of us. I just felt like he was the true hall of Famer Bruce contacted the Indiana football hall of fame and declared of it's possible for the two of us to be inducted than the can't think of greater honor than that. But if only one could be nominated a wanted to withdraw my name and nominate Bob and see what needed to be done to move forward with his nomination, Bruce waited anxiously for three weeks. Then the hall responded, Bob, and I both had been selected to be inducted into the hall. This was the best to be able to be inducted with Bob could've magin anything being more meaningful than that. Bruce told Bob the good news. I was at a loss for words. This was a dream of mine just to be nominated to have somebody recognized that they thought I was worthy to have him. Do that. I I don't have the words in my vocabulary to tell you what that means to me. On august. Thirty twenty eighteen Bob telly Bruce ciphers were inducted together into the Indiana football hall of fame. You have to wonder if on that occasion, Bruce looked across the stage and just for old time sake thought about throwing Bob off of it. That's only games. Gary Wallich Bruce Seifer says now executive director of the Catholic youth organization for the Indianapolis archdiocese, Bob totally no longer coaches, but he's in his six decade at Ron collie highschool. In may of twenty seventeen a member of the quilt nation in western Washington state died in a racist incident. And it was shocking. It was such a emptiness just couldn't be the old again. That's just ahead on only game. You can follow us on Facebook and Twitter at only a game and PR. President Trump made history. The first time he met with North Korean leader Kim Jong Hoon now he's hoping to do it again as the to meet for their second summit. He's looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it. We've made tremendous drivers can't Trump actually convince him to give up his nuclear weapons all the latest by subscribing to the NPR politics podcast. I'm Jay Don day next week on only game how the Atlanta dreams. Nikki Collins stepped out of her husband's shadow and one WNBA coach of the year honors, but now Charlie Pierce here with this week's sports news that Charlie. Hey, Jay, Charlie Bryce Harper is signed with the Philadelphia Phillies for a reported three hundred thirty million dollars over thirteen years as the richest free agent deal in the history of team sports. This is a good deal for all involved. I think so but wasn't Philadelphia one of the places that Bryce Harper said he didn't want to go until they made out a list and list included, three hundred million dollars. So well, not just that put his contract doesn't allow him to be traded. And it doesn't allow. The team to opt out. So he's going to do the full thirteen years of luxurious incarceration with the Phillies. Yeah. There is a great story by Tom Nugent, Sports Illustrated that kind of detailed all the negotiations that went into this and coordin- to Harper's agent Scott Boris, the prime motivation for him was he wanted to be in one place for the duration for the rest of his career. So to speak certainly through his prime good for him. I mean, it looks like a deal that would benefit both. I mean, obviously Philadelphia wants them there for the thirteen years. So you know, when he finally does go into the hall of fame. He's going to go in with the Phillies cap, I guess which early on Monday night James harden streak of scoring thirty points or more in a game ended at thirty two aren't finished with twenty eight points at night. How did the Atlanta Hawks shut down shut them down to twenty eight. I mean, the grand the great thing was he was two points away from continuing the streak not on our watch said the Atlanta Hawks take quadruple teamed him on the last possession. Houston was eight points head they're going to win. Anyway. So all you gotta do dribble dribbling never. Get a chance to put one up to continue the streak. Well, he came back and dropped fifty eight points and game against the Miami Heat. So you almost went okay, you can thirty. I'm going to double thirty the next time out practically. Yeah. That's that's that's terrific. He took out on the heat. What he wanted to do the hawks? I don't know that's fair either. But he's having an MVP season. I mean, he's just been better than terrific, Charlie. Johnny Menzel wasn't just cut by the Montreal wets this week. He was banned by the entire Canadian Football League with new football leagues popping up all over the United States. We'll Manzo get another chance. I have no idea. I guess maybe if you were dying for a gate attraction, you might give try this is moving towards the tragic. I mean because clearly he was cut and banned from the CF L for violating the character clauses in his contract not saying what they are. But it's not hard to imagine. He was a real star in college at Texas. Am I remember seeing him in the Cotton Bowl? He charismatic. He was talented. And he just got eaten alive by what? Joni Mitchell calls a star making machinery and. And you know, now, he's got no place else to go really truly the Buffalo Bills manage to make an appearance in Michael Cohen congressional testimony this week with an allegation at Donald Trump and flooded his network and attempt to buy the NFL team. So what if the Buffalo Bills wind up being the loose thread that unravels the president's? I was at the hearings in Washington and might years just went straight up the top of my head. When I read that because we all known for years that Donald Trump wanted to buy into the NFL and that the NFL because it wasn't he part of it was during the question about whether or not he inflated his assets to essentially commit Bank fraud and get a loan from the Bank and Mike Cohen said he was trying to inflate value to get a loan to buy the Buffalo Bills. Talk about a franchise. I can't buy a break win. He's been quoted as saying if he had bought the franchise, then he wouldn't have competed for the presidency, and we wouldn't be using the words President Donald Trump right now, maybe cabinet would have remained employees NFL of Donald Trump was a team owner. Yeah. But you also have to remember that Donald Trump is responsible for. Tire league going out of business. So I don't I don't I think most any alternate history. That doesn't include severe financial reversals is quite believable. Daniel Gibson is a softball player for the university of Arkansas and she hit for a cyclist weekend. Some of our listeners will be taking. So what plenty players do that. But there's an interesting twist to Gibson's accomplishment. Right. She hit the home run cycle. She hit a home run in four consecutive innings, which you can do in softball because number of runs that people score. But that is an unprecedented feat. I guess it's only happened once in professional baseball, and it was done, by the way for another guy. From Arkansas got him Tyrone Horne in nineteen ninety eight for the Arkansas travelers it's never been done. And and it's only after once in softball before that, but nobody ever hit the home run cycle in consecutive innings. Danielle good for you. I was watching the highlights, and you know, here's a two run Homer and three run home in a grand slam. And that was amazing. In its own, right? I'm taking. Wow, what an incredible performance. And I'm just kind of I thought that was the reason that we were seeing the highlight, you know, all those home runs batted in was remarkable enough. And I just kind of that guy. Wouldn't it be amazing if she actually hit for the home run cycle? Then lo and behold, she did it with a solo home run in the next bad was absolutely extraordinary. I was amazed by how extraordinary it was. And finally, Charlie Wallin spring training New York Mets outfielder Brandon Nimmo suffered an injury. And it's one of the weirder ones. We've heard about he cooked himself, some chicken didn't quite cook it long enough and wound up put food poisoning guys twenty-five, though, he should either know how to cook chicken at this point or no work KFC is you can find the sports writing Charlie peers from time to time at Sports Illustrated, and he joins us here each week on only game. Thanks, charlie. Thank you. Have you? Subscribe to the only game podcast yet is the best way to make sure you never miss an episode go to apple podcasts ditched or wherever you get your podcast. And while you're there leave us a review it will help other listeners find our show. The quilt reservation is on the edge of Washington state's Olympic peninsula. It's is located and in the winter, it's wet and dark wet knits the community together through the long winters is basketball. So when something terrible happened to win of Quin all star basketball players it shook the whole reservation and before we get started. Just a warning that parts of the story are difficult to hear please use your discretion. Here's reporter eilly show. Neil in may twenty seventeen Corey Smith was sleeping in a hotel in eastern Washington when the phone came up to a morning two thirty in the morning, there's been an accident. I said what kind of acts. Said well, Jimmy and Harvey got ran over. Jimmy Smith, Kramer is Corrie's nephew Harvey's. Jimmy's friend Korean I met on the beach of the Cornell reservation, so the sound you hear in the background is the Pacific Ocean. Almost two years later. There's a lot we still don't know about what happened that night. But we do know is this Jimmy celebrating his twentieth birthday. Donkey creek a campsite in the Olympic national forest. Jimmy's friends also members of the quilt nation and two white men. Got in some kind of dispute the white men were driving a pickup truck. The driver backed over Jimmy Harvey put his car in drive and ran over them. Again, bystanders later told Corey that out there warring Sansom racial slurs. Like he just ran over Indian on Corey new at the time with Jimmy and Harvey were in the hospital in critical condition. Secorski got dressed and started the five hour drive back to the reservation. Expect the worst Jimmy's a tough kid. He's going to be fine. I kept telling myself that he's going to be fine. You'll pull this. Jimmy's mom died when he was only four years old. So and his girlfriend took Jimmy and raised him as their own son. One of the things Corey taught Jimmy was how to play basketball since he could walk played basketball. Take him to eight and under turnament s-, and he stood out. You know, rely worked hard he really took pride and playing defense Jimmy was in middle school. The captain of the high school basketball team took him under his wing, Jim USA, fifth grade kids sixth grade kid, and there's a senior in high school. He'd come pick him up every night know, Jimmy radio play basketball jammed eyes light up as a young kid having older kid, the star of the basketball team come to your house and pick you up, you know, I don't think he realizes what he'd done for Jimmy basketball is really important on the reservation. Correy says it feels like everyone goes to the high school games. They'll bring their big pots chilly. They'll have their Indian tacos, you know, it's it's just a good tiny. I'm going to go watch basketball, and I'm gonna eat dinner at the same time. The town of two as the seat of the quilt tribe at borders, the Pacific Ocean on one side and woods on the other three sides. The whole town is about five blocks by five bucks. The one gas station is also the one grocery store and also the only little cafe with fast food and a couple of tables there, they'll malls around here ain't no movies around here. Bowling alleys? There's none of that around. Here. These kids turn to picking up a remote control playing fortnight all night long or something, you know, playing video games all night and some kids they might turn to jugs or alcohol. When I first moved here. I was bored. Taina cross guns grew up on the black feet reservation in Montana and move to the quilt reservation back in two thousand fifteen was walking around one day through the tone of the whole and confer something to do those could here's basketball's dribble in every block and started nosy around walking all over. And I I ran into a group kids claim basketball Tyler join deaden and pretty soon he was playing basketball every day. If I didn't have a basketball when I got here. I don't think I would have stayed Tyler Kroft guns became the high school basketball coach last year but back in twenty fifteen Tyler was the new kid in town. And Jimmy was the star of the high school basketball team. I was pretty at let it when it first got here. I had good knees. I had I was in physical shape and some senior class kids. Jimmy Smith, Kramer was one of them. He took on a challenge. Wanted to play into me. And we we don't we dunked on each other every day on the short courts, and we just battled battle battle me. And Jimmy go back quite a ways. Jimmy sophomore year. The holy shit wins made it to state and the tribe paid for charter buses to bring everyone who wanted to attend the game all the way across Washington to watch. So the bleachers were full of two Hola fans, including Corey the chitlins were down there. Run out of time. Jimmy grabbed at yell is beyond half court. Threw up eighty feet problems seventy feet. Chitlins lost the game by one point. But when he hit the shot, there's a lot of elders there. A lot of them were tears. Everything did he was good at microbes was the chitlins head basketball. Coach Jimmy wasn't high school in the spotlight. All the time. All the kids knew everybody knew him the fact that he was so good made his presence more noticeable Jimmy graduated from high school. He got work as a commercial fisherman. He and his girlfriend had twins a boy in a girl he was trying to get into community college and onto a basketball team. In the meantime, he and his best friend kept showing up at the high school to help coach run road rules and push them. I mean, they would come and they would push the kids to now this is how you do it. You know, you go hard on every drill. This is how you play defense. But they were also there could play. Because they just they just loved the play just love to play the game. Kuching high school students wasn't the only way Jimmy gave back to the community. He had a reputation as a good hunter. He'd give away the deer and the elks shot to elders and other seeded the meat taking care of others was what he did the night of his twentieth. Birthday too. When the argument began between Jimmy's friend Harvey and the two men in the pickup truck Jimmy wasn't involved. It wasn't until that pickup truck was headed toward Harvey that Jimmy rushed over to try to save his friend. You know when he tackled Harvey. He took a blunt force. He saved Harvey's life Jimmy was on life support. When his uncle Corey got to the hospital. He was gone, but he wasn't gone. He's still had heart. So I stayed with him. Rub. His feet rubbers legs. Something I did for him growing up playing basketball football baseball track. Whatever sport he is doing. I always rubbed his legs and rubbed his feet after games crap really bad lane hospital that I just I kept watching his heart monitor. I would rub his feet. You know, hoping just hoping there's something. And there was nothing. Some of the hardest times in my life was sitting there watching my boy die. Korea made the decision to take Jimmy off life support and donate his organs. Jimmy's friend Harvey lived. The news reached coach microbes the next day. And it was shocking. When when I heard I mean, I just remember was just so depressed because. I just you know, seating not that long ago. And it just seemed like just the other day that had been with our practice and everything. And now he was he was gone. It was such a an empty emptiness. Just couldn't eve the old again. Law enforcement originally charged the man who ran over Jimmy with murder, but they downgraded the charge to manslaughter in the end. He was sentenced to seven and a half years. People on the reservation are still upset about that. They see what happened as murder and a hate crime. I saw Justice for Jimmy bumper sticker says I drove around the reservation what if things reverse what if these Indian kids? You know, ran over this white man how things be settled in court. The two holy community. Didn't get closure in the courtroom. So they had to say goodbye in their own way on the basketball court last season. The highschool teamwork Jimmy's number five on their shoulders all season as for the number five jersey itself Tyler Kroft gun says, the players were always fighting over it. They would see number five in would say I wanna be Jimmy. I wanna be Jimmy. They would benchers -i, but the players can't fight over that jersey anymore because at the end of last season the school retired it to Jim was so pad news crazy. It was an even place to sit down with people standing along walls erves people packed in doors. It was a full game. They did all say they're good byes. And they knew that is heart still there. And even the kids on the Cornell reservation can no longer where the number five jersey the still want to be like Jimmy Corey six-year-old. Son calls him brother plays plays plays. All ask me. How my brother Shah did he sheet baskets like this? You know stuff that all the time. That story was brought to us by reporter eilly show. Neil. Omai game produced by Martin Kessler, Gary wallet with help from Nico Emek. And Matthew stock. Our technical director marquees Neal's are senior producer is Karen Gibbons. I'm Jay Don day only game returns next week. Thanks for listening.

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#WearPinkForWendy, Cave Diving ... In An Iceberg, Tommy John's 3-Error Meltdown

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#WearPinkForWendy, Cave Diving ... In An Iceberg, Tommy John's 3-Error Meltdown

"This is only a game. I'm Taryn given earlier this week. A grocery store in Georgia removed all the Irish spring soap from its shelves ahead of this weekend's University of Georgia and Notre Dame game silly. Yes yes petty you bet but that's college football or at least usually is things were a bit different last Saturday when Uga hosted did Arkansas state welcome to Athens Georgia on an overcast Saturday the game marked Arkansas State head coach Blake Anderson Second game backs accents his wife. Wendy died of breast cancer on August nineteenth after leave of absence that spanned nearly three weeks. It's been an emotional week for Blake back in Jonesboro also so here in Athens and win. Coach Anderson emerged from the visitor's locker room for the game he didn't see a crowd full of Georgia bulldogs black and red everyone here in Athens University of Georgia Alum Dwight standridge was there the way trod data live and pro cheeks day. Is You do what's right not what is easy and what would have been easy last. Saturday was for ninety three thousand people to show show up in red and black but what was right on Saturday is what happened in some ways the story of what happened at last Saturday's game begins at least for you during your freshman year at Uga so tell me about your mom. Well you started out with a a good one man. My mom are really close. She battled ovarian cancer for seven years took a lot of chemo. It went into remission for about four years and then when it came came back I was a freshman and she passed away the the summer after my freshman year so you got involved with organization called bulldogs battling breast cancer. Tell me a bit about that. bulldogs Val breast cancer was founded by J and Theresa Abbott. She had a son Chris that played at Uga. We raise money for Saint Mary's hospital here in Athens. My mom was diagnosed at Saint Mary's. They treated her very well. When I went to the first boathouse battling breast cancer God tournament that I participated in that's when I found out that they donated their money locally here to Saint Mary's and after the tournament I went up to Jay and Theresa and said I WanNa get involved in this so tell me how the idea first came about for wear pink for Wendy Tuesday morning early. I saw the image that was hosted by Graham coffee with dog sports that had the wear pink for Wendy. Hashtag Graham is I think his thing is every Monday or Tuesday. He puts out an article on why Georgia should hate this week's opponent and last week's article about Arkansas State. I he basically said I can't find a reason to hate Arkansas state. How can you hate or wish bad intentions on a team whose coach he's just lost his wife to breast cancer how basically stole the image and rebroadcast it under our twitter account and I think the words words I used were dog nation. Let's get involved. This is more than a football game. A few hours later Blake Anderson responded to it simply with the words beyond grateful and it went viral and deferred Arkansas state. We'll get the set the scene for me when you you arrived at Saturday's game. What were you wearing and what did you see when you looked into the stands black shorts and one of our very very bright pink bodos battling breast cancer golf tournament t shirts because that was the brightest pink in my closet. Stadium holds ninety any two thousand seven forty six. I think probably thirty five thousand people joined the Wear Pink for Wendy Movement and there was a lot more than that that that had pink earrings pink ribbon think necklaces stuff like that and a courageous show of support as well today from the Georgia Fans Hashtag Mike where pink for Wendy and when you looked out at all that pink how did that make you feel. It makes me feel great. You know I said I do list honor. My mom and my mom and Wendy Anderson probably had their arms wrapped around each other in heaven looking down and smiling on what was going on the bulldog fan base is a is a huge family and the love their runs Dave and when they're challenged with something like this they really have have a tendency to go above and beyond after the game coach. Anderson spoke to reporters. Just one of the classes moves. I've ever seen harder harder truly prepare for something like that so I would say thank you. What do you make of that. Oh it might meet tear up. No doubt when Arkansas state player said he'd be Georgia Fan for life did last Saturday change how you feel about Arkansas state absolutely wolves up that's their motto and I'll be looking at their results and in keeping an eye on news out of Arkansas state going forward. That's usually alum Dwight standridge judge Dwight and bulldogs battling breast cancer are planning another pink out for breast cancer awareness month on October nineteenth. Dwight says he hopes that we're paying thank for Wendy turns out to be just a warm up for that event and in case. You're wondering this isn't all about fashion choices. bulldogs battling breast cancer raised a a little over ten thousand dollars when they hosted a pink out event last October third aiming for twenty thousand dollars this year. It's time for three stories. You should know well the US women's national soccer teams fight for equal pay continues. We got some data this week on advertising revenue at the two thousand nineteen women's World Cup and that's where we're going to start. I'm joined by New York. Magazine contributing editor will leach and by the Wall Street Journal's Rachel Bachman. Welcome back to both of you. Hello thank you as always thanks so much. Karen grigsby here all right Rachel Phyllis well of course the US women's soccer team won the twenty fifth World Cup and headed into the two thousand Nineteen World Cup is a number one team in the world but advertisers were still very slow to buy into the women's World Cup broadcasts in the US this year that is perhaps until the US woman made yet another championship run and the result is that TV ad buyers spent more than double double on this women's World Cup of what earlier estimates were they spent almost one hundred million dollars on ads in the US on broadcasts but you know this reluctance since makes me wonder what will it take for advertisers sports marketers to go all in and women's sports especially in event like this which attracted a billion Indian viewers on television globally. What will it take is for people to go all in women's sports and embrace them. I mean I I'm GonNa. Guess that a lot of the people we're not going all in on this man is just a guess but honestly. I think it's the game itself is going great I for me. It's baffling to see how you could have not seen the massive personalities and the easily marketable players and the team and not want to jump on that immediately lately. I don't know how you could have missed that but actually I think I have a couple of theories as people of this that and I think that's probably the change well. Here's the thing that always comes to my mind and when we talk about this Fica Bundles the TV deals for men's and women's soccer so when Fox bought the rights they got the men's and women's World Cup Beach Soccer Walker which I didn't even know existed foot. Saul I don't even know if I'm saying that right and the under twenty and under seventeen tournaments and the implication there is that what Fox was really paying for is the men's World Cup and that everything else came for free. This probably made a lot of sense in the beginning when the women's World Cup hop was just getting started and it probably still makes a lot of sense in countries that aren't the US or in Europe but I also think it kind of sends this message to advertisers advertisers that if he doesn't value this airtime why should we and this is how women's sports are sold to TV networks in a lot of places but there is talk going on right now of unbundling the rights for the women's Super League in Europe and I think it's time to start thinking about doing it for certain countries trees at least in FIFA as well but those rights have been sold through twenty twenty six so it's GonNa be a long time before we see anything. Come of it right Rachel. I think so I think I think fee starting to realize that it's probably under marketed this event significantly you could just see in Gianni Infantino the President Obama's final press conference at the women's World Cup. His eyes were lighting up. It's almost like the dollar signs were appearing realizes. They need to pay a little more attention to this. Will you're up all right now before I go to my topic. I feel like I need to say this out front. I am a Saint Louis Cardinals Fan. The cardinals have a very real opportunity to make like the playoffs for the first time since two thousand fifteen and mariners fans like now. We know how you've suffered with our three or absence to me. The larger story is really the Chicago cubs which is to say this car are in very serious danger of not only missing the playoffs but in fact actually tearing the whole kind of thing down. Joe Madden Madden's contract famously expires at the end of the Year Theo Epstein the guy that brought the world series to the cubs. He's talking the talk that he might leave. After the year even talk that the cubs might trade great Kris Bryant till I get control of their payroll situation when all the people were Ryan the names of their loved ones that never seem to comes from the world series into that sixty down that wall unwavering Oakland Avenue even even my cold bitter black cardinals fan art was types by that but it's worth remembering that that was not supposed to be it in fact the cubs were thought to be a building kind of a dynasty right they were supposed to be the two thousand sixteen was just supposed to be the start Rachel. Are you worried well. I'm not worried in fact I would take a very different perspective and that is that the cubs are winning and the cubs have been winning for decades. I WANNA mean by that is their was valuable franchises in MLB they are always in the top five or ten attendants they basically have created a sort of a perpetual mascot personality within MLB and this is absolutely brilliant. I I mean it seems like cub. Games are absolutely impervious to the economy to how the team is doing and it's really quite remarkable. Will the cheapest cheapest ticket I can find to Saturday's game against your cardinals. Wrigley was sixty two dollars. I mean six two bucks. Write the Ale central leading twins you you can get in there for like seven eight bucks so I mean this. This just shows you. The enduring value of the cubs regardless of their win loss record. You're you're absolutely right there. I mean going to a game at Wrigley is just be most fun. It doesn't matter how the team is doing. It's it's great you know will win. The cubs finally won the world series in two thousand sixteen. I thought we were finally done with the W. T. F. is wrong with the cubs stories and you like just keep bringing them back. I mean the Red Sox won the world series last year and they're terrible this year. I mean absolutely awful full with the exact same. Set of guys seem manager. It doesn't make any sense on paper at least and do you hear US crying. No we're not crying. Of course we had four and fifteen year here so that maybe isn't fair but look the cubs won in two thousand sixteen and that's not that long ago and don't they get a couple all years to enjoy that success before some cardinals fan. WHO's team hasn't won since two thousand eleven tells them that the sky is falling Garron. I certainly hope that you are not implying that I am somehow as a cardinal's fan bringing up how miserable cubs fans are to a national audience and if any sort of malice. I certainly hope that you're not thinking then why am I would never be accused of such as it is. I do feel obliged to say like cubs. Fans certainly thought that sixteen was just the beginning that was the way it was sold. Even Epstein himself said we are trying to build a perpetual trying to build a dynasty. I think he actually used the word dynasty. It is not just cardinals fans pointing out hell miserable and sad. The cubs are at this particular moment all right remember a while back when everyone everyone was freaking out about the fact that NASCAR drivers are actually athletes like people were saying. Why do they need to do cardio. All they ever do is turn left well now. We understand understand that good. Physical fitness is absolutely crucial in motor sports and apparently it is crucial in chess as well. Ashwari Kumar recently wrote apiece for ESPN about the physical fitness required to play high level chess now paying attention to nutrition and fitness in chess is nothing new a friend. A friend sent me an article. He wrote for chest life back in two thousand eight but what seems to be new is the science that is supporting it so researchers say that the chess player can burn up to six thousand calories a day while playing in a tournament. That's three times what you and I burn sitting at our desks. chess-players lose an average of two pounds a day during competitions which can add up to ten to twelve pounds over the course of tournament and if they haven't properly prepared their the bodies for that energy loss it can really affect their performance ratio. What do you make of it well. The numbers are really astounding. The weight loss us but what what they really said to me is that maybe we know this sort of intuitively that you don't necessarily lose weight through exercise alone. You lose it through abject fear unbridled stress and that to me. That's what this says I mean to tax your brain that much and to to have of you know that level of stress weighing on you for for hours and hours on end is an extreme stress on your body. I think I'm glad you mentioned NASCAR drivers because of course not only a day concentrating intently but they're also losing a lot of water weight on. Those suits are incredibly hot so the cars of course it's really quite amazing. The the fact that fitness is inspired by absolute fear in unbridled stress is explicit spatial. Why journalists are the bus looking most attractive people the perfect condition. I I think we can all understand that right off the Gecko to be the best part of that story is not just this just talk with the blood pressure and healthy blood pressure goes up and how does just this that physical decline Klein that does it's really truly impressive has made me not only appreciate chess grandmasters more. It's made me actually what to now. Sit Down and watch a full match and just watch him and like you know maybe do something casual and careless like while I'm like Oh. I'm sorry I'm eating a sandwich right now. Oh what are you thinking about something nothing too because we're both just sitting right next to my guest for this week's edition of three stories. You should know have been the Wall Street Journal's Rachel Stockman and New York magazine in contributing editor will each thanks to both of you. Thank you Karen. Thank you very much. What's it like to scuba dive inside an iceberg the ice around us was blue who in weight and clear like sometimes like Robin's eggs sometimes like deep turquoise that's coming up on only game from NPR NPR's life kit that friend who always has great advice on everything from how to invest. I had to get a great workout. We bring you tools to help you get it together together. Listening subscribed NPR's Life Kit all guides to get all of our episodes and every topic all in one place. I'm Karen Given Jill Heiner is a professional explorer and underwater filmmaker. She's done work for P. B. S. National Geographic Graphic and the BBC and she's one of the most accomplished cave divers on the planet back in two thousand one Jill along with expert diver Paul. Oh Heiner through an underwater cinematographer West Scales traveled to Antarctica aboard the Research Vessel Braveheart to explore the beef fifteen iceberg Berg. She told US her story in her own. Words people look into caves and they seem nothing but darkness. US terror fear Claustrophobia I look into a cave and I want to know what's around the next corner my partner and I wanted to pitch a project to go to Antarctica. We had been watching satellite photos of this great crack slowly opening up in the Ross Ice Shelf and as we were getting close to making our pitch the largest moving object on our planet broke away from Antarctica because it was an iceberg the size of Jamaica so we decided that we were GonNa go to Antarctica and be the first people to ever caved. I've inside an iceberg When we pitched our project Jack to National Geographic these said wow there's caves inside of icebergs and we said caves inside of icebergs but the Truth Ruth was. We didn't know we figured that if this great crack had broken this piece off the ice sheet than there had to be other cracks. It was simply a hypothesis the moment I saw this wait pinnacle of ice for the first time standing like a mountain on the ocean. My heart was racing. I was it was beautiful. It was sculptural cultural and I also had a feeling of reverence. This case is endangered and I had the sense that I was looking at something that would never be the same again and and so I felt very privileged the first dive I was actually a little nervous service. I wasn't nervous for myself as much as I was for West and for Paul because this was the her first ice dive. This was the coldest I I've either had ever been on. We picked this beautiful iceberg. That recalled patients camp. We pulled our Zodiac boat into this. Little Bay West rolled off the boat. The water started pouring into his suit and he should have gotten out of the water immediately. He decided he wanted to shoot one minute of footage so he could see what this new camera would produce. One one minute is dangerous. I mean you very very quickly. Lose the ability to manipulate your hands or operator even think straight by the time he had shot a minute of footage. He was almost incapacitated. He's wearing basically a AH bag full of water and we've gotta get him into the boat and it was scary we had the first mate tugging on them and pollen is trying to push him and then when and we rushed him back to the braveheart made to strip him down and get him into a bunk sleeping bags to warm up because he had already been in the water too long long. We were all very experienced cave explorers. I was familiar with all of the issues that could happen to our gear because of the ultra ultra cold water the additional risks from ice diving but what we didn't understand really was the environment we were going to put ourselves into in these iceberg caves when we decided to do our first dive inside an iceberg. It was really exciting. It was a bit nervous west and the first mate stayed in the boat and Paul and I rolled off into slushy chunky water. When you first jump into the water you get an immediate bang salt like an ice cream headache from the water hitting your face? Take a few very quick deep breaths in order to knock back the cold and dropping your face in the water. The first thing you see is this mixing. Thanks flurry of slush melting freshwater mixed with the salt water. It's almost impossible to focus and then then you've to sort of pushed that aside and the little chunks of ice and then slowly descend down dropping into this unknown so they resist Deep Vertical Fisher crack and Paul Nye descended down this crevice and we went down and down and down into the darkness until we suddenly came upon the sea floor and it was about one hundred and thirty feet deep deeper than we originally thought we might want to dive in Antarctica but they're at the bottom as I turned to my right was a passage I realized we'd found it that we were in this environment that nobody had seen before the ice around us was blue and white and clear like sometimes like a Robin's egg sometimes like deep turquoise but the sea floor was red and orange yellow pillow every warm color and the contrast was stunning and it was covered with shag carpet of filter feeding organisms so there were sponges and little Christmas tree shaped worms and things that look like miniature palm trees sort of wafting in the current and then all of a sudden there were these Eissa pods they're kind of like little something between a spider and lobster about the size of my hand and they started raining down from cracks over my head and crawling along the floor and hitting my camera and landing on my shoulder it was it's like horror story material. The seafloor has its own unique sound kind of reminds me of as a kid when you did that pop rocks candy and you just hear the clicking almost and as we swam deeper you're deeper into the Burgh. They're also like strange cracks and POPs and groans from the ice it was moving it was shifting it was changing and I remember at one point a very deep groaning vibration sounded and I felt all the way through to my toes it was it was that loud and kind of looked at each other and looked at our and everything seemed fine but when we finally turned around on that dive and worked our way back slowly to the entrance there were big giant pieces of ice where we had had entered this cave and the doorway we swam into was gone. People people often say you must be fearless and I am not fearless. I try to do everything to prepare for risk and I work through my head. How I'm going to solve that but you can't always predict licked. WHAT'S GONNA go wrong. When you're doing something that's never been done before and so coming back to the doorway cave and finding that suddenly closed is like Oh my God every breath is currency and I only have so many of those in my equipment so every breath marches me either ever closer a to success or ever closer to death so as we approach these giant blocks of ice we search for a way around and through them and slowly bit by bit found underway out now we had to make a stop we had to hang in the water about twenty feet before we could rise back to the surface and that's part part of just readjusting your body to the surface pressure and when I looked up from that twenty-foot stop I saw West and Matt the first I made standing and like high fiving celebrating obviously they told us about what it was like when that icebergs calved and that big chunk of ice sloughed off and closed the doorway and sent this great wave almost capsizing them in the Zodiac. It was terrifying for them and the whole time they were waiting and waiting and waiting and not knowing if we were alive or dead they knew that there was no way to mount a rescue and all they do is wait by the next day. I thought okay I know more than I did yesterday. We're going to give it another try. It's still guesswork and it's still a risk but I guess in that moment I felt it was a risk worth taking and the entrance looks stable and everything fine. We dropped quickly down to the bottom and went in and started photographing some of the life and and slowly slowly. I noticed that the current was picking up it was getting a little bit stronger and a little bit stronger and all of a sudden rapidly it was racing and I remember member sort of digging my hand into the sea floor to stop myself from rushing forward it felt like Ddo and my whole body kind of cartwheeled around around my hand that we turned back towards the exit we couldn't kick hard enough to move forward and we realized the current current hat us and we looked at each other when Oh boy you know. We're being sucked inside the iceberg but we could see blue blue light in the distance. We knew there was another exit and in a very quick decision pollen I decided to go with the flow and go towards towards the other doorway but when you're inside an iceberg you don't have a sense of how far that blue light of the doorway is from you and as we started due to rush with the current towards that light we kept drifting drifting drifting and it seemed like it was getting much bigger and we went we went and we went went till we finally reached the store way ahead. Okay we're out and when my head broke the surface there was ice all all around me and it was higher than I could see over and I couldn't see the boat and my heart just hit my stomach. I felt like a GNAT on the back of the planet boy. It's time gets so compressed and takes on a strange nature when when you're scared you know when you think you. Did you think there's a possibility you might die. Everything's out of you control so I. I'm not sure if it was fifteen minutes or half an hour but I was getting cold. I was shaking when suddenly I heard something and what had happened is the current had knocked the boat off its anchorage just as it had flushed us through the iceberg big and they were pulling up the anchor to reset it and in the process of that chain being yanked up onto the boat the boat and moved and I saw a small all glimpse of the stearns swing around the edge of the vertical side of the iceberg when all they're they are and I heard in the distance I heard in west his voice the sweetest sound I've ever heard say is that Jill and he spotted us on the horizon and then was slowly able to move the braveheart towards us and get us out of the water our final dive inside Ice Island West decided he he was going to join us. You decided that the images that we'd brought backwards so compelling that he wanted to shoot it with the best camera that we had we dropped down to the sea floor and moved our way inside and very quickly that current picked up again and so I turned to West Paul and I put my thumb up in the signal that indicates indicates that it's time to turn around and go but as we wheeled around we realized we might not be able to get out and we pulled and pulled dived our hands into the sea floor and we weren't making your way forward minding my biceps triceps. My forearms were shaking pulling with every bit of energy. I had to get back towards that Crevasse. We just couldn't make our way forward. I was leading Paul was behind me and West was losing losing ground and he yelled out help me with the camera and I thought half the camera we might die. I was angry and Paul drop back to help. West and I was mad at him too because I thought come on you. Guys can't do this and they together managed to work the camera towards the entrance but even at the entrance. I I didn't know how we were going to get up. The Crevasse because this water was pouring down the crow boss and it was so strong. It was pressing us back down every time I tried to move up so I looked around. I thought what are we going to do. How are we going to climb these walls. It's just ice. It's slippery. I I touched the wall and it just slides down and then I remembered these little ice fish that we'd been studying that were about the size of my thumb and they were living in these these boroughs inside the ice and I thought climbing holds I could jam a finger into that hole and maybe I can have enough enough grip that I can pull my way up and get back towards the surface that was still a hundred and thirty feet over our heads. I inched my way a up hole by hole. In West and Paul got there too and started to follow along until we could get up out of the Crevasse and out of the stream of current. I remember getting back to the boat after the dive and I was feeling quite solemn and the science officer reached down he you know we were already the two hours overdue so he was relieved to see us and I remember looking up and saying the cave tried to keep us today you know. Mother Nature had given us a last warning like good creative people. It's never enough. You always want more. We decided we wanted to do one more dive. So we prepped our equipment. We went to have a meal and sit down and plan one more dive dive that we would do at the moment when the current slackened and as we were we're having a meal we heard screams on deck and we dropped everything and ran out the companion way up onto the deck and there was are iceberg the cave that we had just been inside of breaking into pieces heaving up in the sea and sending finding these giant waves towards our boat the whole square mile of ice we'd just been inside of was breaking apart and to solving into the sea. I was just standing there. You know gobsmacked ships rail. I realized that if we had been in the water we'd be dead when we came home and tried to tell her story. Most people just thought we were insane. How could you do that. How could you go in over and over and over again and boy. You're lucky you're an idiot idiot but for me it was so worth it to have that experienced documenta place. Maybe no one will ever see again. We don't know whether the B fifteen iceberg was truly just simply evidence of climate change or whether it was part of the evolving changes in the Arctic ice sheet. It's it's impossible to know but I do know that it was important. It was important for us to go and document that an environment and everything living around it and I'm glad to have had that experience and glad to even have had those brushes with death. That made me a better safer diver in the future. That's Joe Heiner in her own. Words Joel's Joel's new book is called into the planet. We'll have a link and photos from the expedition to be fifteen at only game dot org. That story was produced reduced by Matthew Stock. Tommy John Certainly made his mark on Major League Baseball. I pitched twenty-six years. I went to one hundred eighty eight games. M PEOPLE WANNA talk about three years on a play. It's true that story's coming up and remember you can follow us on facebook and twitter at only a game. NPR It has already been uneventful summer in politics politics yeah between the two thousand twenty debates and the president's battle over immigration. There's a lot going on and win. There's news you need to know about the NPR politics. podcast is there to tell L. U. What happened not to mention. We're hitting the road so you can meet all of the twenty twenty contenders me completely crazy the NPR politics podcast subscribe. I'm Karen Given next week on only a game on the two year anniversary of the harvestfestival shooting in Vegas. We have the story of a gunshot wound along recovery the end hockey but now Charlie Pierce is here with the week's News Hi Charlie. I guarantee we'd be remiss if we did not begin this conversation by talking about Antonio Brown around he was cut by the Patriots on Friday on Monday. Just five days after Brown was accused of rape by a former trainer in a federal lawsuit sports illustrated it reported a dozen more accusations against Brown ranging from possibly criminal to merely bizarre. Did the Patriots vet this guy at all all before agreeing to pay him fifteen million dollars a let's see now he's accused of sexual assault sexual misconduct stealing from a charity charity stiffening his subcontractors and being just generally a jerk no one thing the NFL doesn't like is chaos and this guy is walking chaos at this point. Brown denies these new accusations as he denied the previous ones but now an artist who told us I about the harassment she he says she experienced while painting a mural in Brown's home says she's getting threatening tax messages from Brown so I guess he hasn't learned any lessons about text messaging. Well not just that but he apparently was talking about. This woman and some kind of weird group chat yeah. which is you know first of all? It's something you shouldn't do so anyway but really you should understand the Internet before you get out in a group chat and start making threats. That's not only criminal dumb. I need some good news. Charleena ain't going into week three of the NFL season Kansas City chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes was already on track to throw for fifty-six touchdowns and sixty five hundred hundred yards this season the record you might remember is fifty five touchdowns and five thousand four hundred seventy seven yards set by Denver's peyton manning in two thousand thirteen. Are we getting ahead of ourselves with all these numbers. We are getting ahead of ourselves but if you've watched Patrick mahomes play football. It's easy to get ahead of yourself because he's a lot of fun. He could throw the ball long long. He can throw the ball short. He can throw it from just about any arm angle. He has a great gift for instantly evaluating situation reacting to them so I mean why not. Let's say he's going to do it and if he doesn't do it. We won't be disappointed because he's only twenty four. It's not less chance exactly Iowa State Carson King wanted to get noticed in in the crowd of fans at Espn's College Game Day last weekend so he showed up with a big sign and it worked. What did the signs say. The sign said Bush light supply needs replenished. Essentially he was pitching himself for beer money. Although Bush light I mean come on guys but he got a whole bunch of donations it went in over a thousand dollars and he donated all of it except the cost of a case of the University of Iowa Children's Hospital and good for everyone involved. It's a great thing I don't if you know this but at the Iowa football stadium the children's Hospital looks over the stadium and it's a tradition among football players to wave at the kids at the window before every game so this is a nice thing on top of a really nice thing well. I mean you say over a thousand dollars so at last count as a Friday morning king had raised one hundred fifty seven seven thousand dollars that was matched by Bush and then Mo.. We're getting close to half a million. Kids slant case a better beer man. You know you've you've earned it you really. I don't think the kids will mind if you spend twenty five bucks on a case instead of nine ninety five at Al's liquor store and I and aluminum screen door replacement names. I mean come on man upgrade of absolutely Spain has won the Fiba Basketball World Cup go go Spain but the US is still number one because apparently the rankings take eight years of results into account when determining world rankings eight years. That's one way to make sure the US never loses the top. That's really remarkable considering that. We're going to get to the Olympics and you know Steph curry at all we'll play yeah and they'll probably will undoubtedly win the gold medal and then for the next eight years ago we number one and they could play the JV team from you know. Warsaw High School and end aluminum screen door replacement facility in Ames Iowa. Oh dear and finally Charlie Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback back Gardner Men's shoe and his impressive moustache are in their rookie season but already the endorsement offers are rolling in and I'm GonNa let you you try to describe this one but remember. We're a family friendly show first of all. It's the mustache okay the only reason he got this offer was because of the one thousand nine hundred seventies porn stash that he's been sporting ever since he was at Washington State yeah he was offered a deal from something called Cam Soda Soda. Apparently he does band exercise in the locker room sometimes without clothing and this is you know sparked. The interest of the good folks Cantona so they're offering a deal. I still think it's the Mustache Charlie Pierce is the guest editor of the forthcoming best American sports writing two thousand nineteen and he joins US each week here at only a game. Thanks Charlie thanks Karen. It happened in eighteen eighteen ninety nine unless it was eighteen ninety five. Mike Grady was playing third base for the New York giants when he committed five errors on a single go play or maybe it was six. Nobody was really sure but for more than one Hundred Years Mike Grady was believed to hold the major league record for the most errors on a single play by a single player in two thousand twelve baseball historian. Bill Dean debunked the whole thing grady's five five or six error play never happened as it turns out the real story of the actual. MLB Record for most errors on a single play by a single single player is a lot more recent. Here's only games Gary Wallich in the summer of nineteen eighty eight forty five year old Yankees starting pitcher. Tommy John was in his twenty fifth season as a major leaguer but I can still pinch I could compete. I could hold my own and there was another thing Tommy was proud of. I took pride on my defensive abilities. I can still feel on July twenty seventh of that ear. Tommy got the start against the Milwaukee brewers in Yankee Stadium in the top of the fourth. Tommy the Yankees were up four to nothing well. I had good stuff ah good ball movement crews and ride along with one out. Tommy walked Milwaukee Second Baseman. Jim Gantner Jeffrey Leonard came to the plate. He hit a ball off the end of the bat and hit a little squirt or down the first baseline. Tommy charged the ball and I made my first mistake by saying to myself when I saw the ball I'm WANNA barehanded. Tommy says that in his long major league career he almost never barehanded ground balls. He was a glove guy all the way. The little voice in his head knew that no. I know I shouldn't do it. All the problem was that he didn't listen to that voice and I picked the ball up and dropped it Spencer Awesome Awesome Phil Rizzuto. Were doing the television play by play that night and you can score that error charged to the pitcher. You're Gantner was now on his way to second and Leonard was hustling up the line. I should have taken a ball and gone back to the mound and had runners on first and second but Tommy thought he still had time to get Leonard. Out At first and I turn and I threw it to first base ace and I didn't have a good grip on the ball and I threw it about ten. Feet wide of mattingly first base jared does not make that kind of mistake well. That's my second mistake. The ball had caromed off the ball boys sitting along the right field line. Now gantner was on his way to third with Jeffrey Leonard. Not far behind then it's rolling down the right field line and Dave winfield never back supply up but he backs this player. He picks the ball up and he throws it home. The right fielders throw appeared to be on target to the waiting glove of the Yankees. Thank you catcher and I hear somebody say cut to cut to means you. Cut The ball off and relate to the catcher. I cut the ball off. I turned and I threw the ball to the Catcher who was about twenty feet away and I used it right by his head. Gantner scored the ball skidded out of play as Leonard approached third the play by play guys tried valiantly to keep up with the chaos out of our way both times then then there and they'll go on and he will let say they're gonNA wind him score the APP the umpire awarded Leonard Home. The square was now four to two. Tommy thought Oh no that was my third air in just twelve seconds. It went by so quickly that it was hard hard to keep track. Tommy John gets to Arizona but I thought three errors and you know it was a physical meltdown. Tommy got out of the fourth inning with no further damage other than to his pride he returned to the dugout where he gathered his teammates and and told them guys look. I've got three more errors than me. Let's get our butts out there and let start hitting the ball so my next three years won't make a tie game out of it and everybody's just gonNa find like this. They're just laughing their butts off the inspiring pep talk worked the Yankees rallied for twelve more runs. Tommy went eight innings and gave up. Just one more run for the sixteen to three three win. After the game. Tommy looked for Yankees manager. Lou Pinella he found him in the clubhouse talking to writers about all those fourth inning bungles and I said Liu and he looked he said yeah. What do you want. I said if you knew how to motivate these guys like I do. We wouldn't be as far out of the first places places. We are and everybody's laughing. I thought that was funny. Tommy went nine and eight that year and the Yankees missed the playoffs but he says his debacle on July twenty seven th one thousand nine hundred ninety eight provided solid material for the off season. It gave me a lot of stuff during the winter when I go out and do speaking engagements and stuff. It gave me fodder so people would laugh it happens. That's part of the game. That's why we play the game and that's why People Watch the game and that's why they pay to go in and it's why they can do you Tommy. John Retired the following year during his long career. He committed a very stingy forty nine errors. That's an average of just under two the per season. Maybe that's why he seemed a little surprised when I asked him if he talked with me about his Major League record I pitch twenty-six years. I went two two hundred and eighty eight games and I have a surgery named after me and people want to talk about three Arizona play. Sorry Tommy. Let's charge the reporter with an error on that one and let it be recorded here that you are a good sport and fielded all questions very cleanly That's only a gain scary Wallich. Only a game is produced by Martin Kessler and Gary Wallich with help from Jonathan Chang. Our technical director is marquee. He's Neil our executive. Producer is me. I'm Karen Given. Only a game returns next week. Thanks for listening.

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 643: Premiere League Financial Woes and New Uniforms

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 643: Premiere League Financial Woes and New Uniforms

"If this is your ultimate staffer everything sports the Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Should I say more from the NFL MLB THE NBA MMA? It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen Down Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the GMC sports podcast brought to you by the GMC? Podcasting network is the Thursday edition. It is what is it as April ninth thing. I think is a Thursday. I'm not positive but this is Thursday podcasts. Whether or not it's actually Thursday. That doesn't matter anymore. Days don't matter time does matter honestly a lot of things don't matter now because you know you're cooped up in Your House. I'm cooped up in my house but in many ways welcome to Thursday episode of the show and I mean once again not not that much talk about today to be honest. Today we have over the Falcons and the buccaneers. They both released new uniforms. You new uniforms will look over those. We'll see we`ll. The dolphins traded up. Is that an actual thing that could possibly happen. We'll go over that then. Talk will talk about the Premier League that got some financial issues amongst most of the teams will talk about little leagues around the country. That could cause because of everything that's going on could cause a sports recession in little leagues. And then of course. We'll top it all off with movies fifty nine through fifty in the athletics. Top One hundred sports movies. But first we're GonNa talk about Mike Gundy so if you don't know who Mike Gundy is. Mike. Gundy is the beautiful mullet wearing coach from Oklahoma state from the cowboys. He is one of those prime meam territory. Quarterbacks he's Al- always a part of big time means throughout twitter throughout everything because he has a magnificent mullet he is under fire recently very similar to how Dabo Sweeney was under fire just last week which I discussed that on the Sunday show He is under fire just like Davos. Weaning is. Except here's the difference. What he said is a lot more damning. The what Davos we said. So let's recap Dabo. Sweeney mentioned that He's optimistic and GonNa do everything we can to play football in the fall and stuff like that in my opinion people just freaking out over because they just don't like Dabbo for whatever reason it was just it was just him being optimistic about playing football. He even said we'll leave. We'll leave all the leaves. The professionals to figure everything out and stuff like that but he is confident that they'll play football in the fall. He never said anything. He never said anything that Mike. Gundy said here. In this article. That re in the quotes. I will read you in a little bit here just to clarify that so if it seems like my view on this is completely different from the Dabo. Sweeney view is because my gundy said something completely different first off and his is a lot more damning a lot more. I don't know full able to hate ready to hate. I guess then Dabo Sweeney said because at the end of the day with Davos said was pretty. I mean inconsequential The only thing that Dalo said that was a huge red flag to me was when he said he might travel. One is playing for Eastern. That's an issue of course but I mean it's his own plane he can do. I mean that's no different from someone driving to a different city. There's no different. I mean. Basically he's taking plane that only he's written on he said there sanitize it whatever but anyways so during teleconference with reporters on Tuesday. Mike Gundy said he thinks it will be safe for his players to return to campus and returned to practice and offseason workouts. He said in my opinion we have to bring our players back test them. They're all in good shape. They're all eighteen. Nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two year olds. They're healthy. A lot of them can fight it off with their natural body. The antibodies and the build that they have he said there are some people that are a symptomatic but if that if that's true then we can sequester them and people say that's crazy. No it's not crazy because we need to continue and budget and run money through the state of Oklahoma. So He's basically saying that we were going to bring kids back on the campus back to Oklahoma state back to stillwater and try to figure out this whole football thing while endangering most of us players so health experts do not suggest that young people would be exempt from social practices during this pandemic virus can affect all people people of all ages there have been there have been cases of infants getting it from zero to two years old their cases then getting it so this is just a very wrong point of view people of all ages have gotten it so yeah so. Gundy said the program will treat the corona virus like the flu anyone contracts covert nineteen would be quarantined. He goes on to say we get people that get the flu. During the season we quarantine them. We treat them. We make sure they're healthy. Bring him back. It would be the same thing here but at some point we've got to go back to work from what I read. The healthy people can fight this. The antibodies make better. They're doing some blood transplants. Now with the people that have already gotten the disease that have gone over it. That have the antibodies that can fight it. There's a lot of people who figure this maeve. May I is our goal. Don't know if it will happen. Players will come in after that so their goal. The current goal is may first which in case you didn't know most. There's I don't think there's a single sporting event except for UFC's crazy thing which I mean I'll say that for Sunday. I guess but there is currently no sport that is scheduled before July. I don't think so. I think it's kind of crazy having players come back may I I mean? Of course it's a full month. I mean things could be completely different. I know I know. Some things are kind of improving right now but I mean I don't think it's improved well enough for us to kind of shift course and go back to normal just yet. I do understand people. Suffer stuff is getting slightly better as we go on here. And that's because everything we've done in the past couple of weeks though we're going to have to keep doing it if we wanNA keep seeing those numbers down if we if we get out of quarantine if people stopped so dizzy and stuff like that if we go back to normal if we go and act like everything's back to normal then guess what the numbers are going to spike up. We're GONNA get a second wave so we need. We need to treat this and I think through the summer is a good a good idea. I mean acting like this through the summer I mean that means ape all of April May June July and then we can come back in August. We can so that's four months four months which is a long time. I don't agree I might lose my mind by then. Most people remind but by then we should look a lot better especially things are trending downwards. Like they are now. We should look a lot better by so anyways. Issued a statement Tuesday night regarding Gundy's comments saying everyone wants to return to some degree to normalcy as soon as possible as we're Oklahoma State University. We will adhere to the vice of public health experts. Who are making informed decisions in the best interest of the citizens of our nation. Based on scientific data we will not compromise the health and wellbeing of our campus community. This virus is deadly and we will do our part at Oklahoma state to help blunt the spread so the school pretty much came out and said No. That's not happening. We're not doing that so that's good to know that's good. No but a Lotta mind. Gundy is definitely under fire because of his comments. Here I know in my opinion. It's kind of well-deserved. Because he actually had a plan to have kids come back onto campus and kids get ready to play football underneath this whole pandemic thing so I kind of understand that this kind of deserves more heat than Davos said and I'm on. I'm not trying to deflect with data centers pretty bad. I'll agree I'll admit to that. I don't think it's as bad as some people said but I I don't think is that bad but my gun here. What did he what he's doing here. That's kind of crazy but he. He told reporters that he realizes the seriousness of the pandemic. But he also thinks it's important for people to get back to their normal routines soon. I'm not taking away from the danger of people get sick. You have the virus stay healthy. Try to do what we can to help. People that are sick and we're losing lives which is just terrible. The second part of it is that we still have to schedule and continue to move forward as life goes on and help those people. I understand where he's coming from here. He's he's basically saying we can't just let life stop forever because of this and I've seen some people on winner. Some people on Reddit saying that we may never handshake again. Have an shakes ever again. Because of this I think that's a little crazy but but the fact matters we're still in the thick of it like we are nowhere near the end of this whole thing. Nowhere near just saying I don't Wanna I WANNA spread fear. I I never WANNA fear especially since you're coming to this to listen to sports and to be fair there's no sports going on but in my opinion. I mean it's just you still have to be cautious. You still have to think about other people. You still have to distance and all that you may not like it. I don't like it. I'M GONNA be honest with you. I don't like it but it's necessary. It's necessary to curb this thing flying the curve at least find the curve at least so our hospitals and stuff are not overwhelmed with all the cases here but so yeah I mean let me know what you think about Mike. Gundy thing about an his views on this whole thing is better or worse than what Davos said. I personally think it's worse but you know other people may have different opinions but when we come back we'll talk about The Falcons of the Tampa Bay buccaneers. They both released new uniforms. We're GONNA talk about them when we return. Are you looking for the very best? Nfl and College Football podcast checkout GSM. See Football podcast. Get the latest football news both on and off the field from the NFL draft treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines they got you covered that's GMC podcasts dot com slash football dash. Podcast get updates on college rivalries key insights and much much more. It's football talk the way you want it. This show eats sleeps and breathes football. Don't forget to link on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Yes MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO so One thing about the NFL teams are always changing getting better and better every year. Well I mean uniforms change every once in a while especially for teams that are Kinda struggling. They want to drum up some support the fan base and one team that is definitely benefiting from these new uniforms especially as new uniform. Reveal the team. That just got Tom Brady and free agency. Which is the main reason. This is a big deal in my opinion if if there's any other day this is any other year where Tampa Bay didn't get a huge free agent signing and they were like. Here's our new uniforms. People just like. Okay who cares? But it's kind of how people think about the Falcons. Except the Falcons. People had a strong opinion about their uniform. So we'll get to that. When we get to that so Tampa Bay. They used to have something called the alarm clock uniform. Which is the their numbers. Look like numbers on alarm clock so but in their uniform reveal from yesterday from Monday or Tuesday Tuesday Jesus. Today's what are they. They're reveal from Tuesday. They're going back to their roots in two thousand twenty with the new uniform. The pays homage to their best years and futuristic twist. They WON'T BE WEARING. The cream sickle colors on from the earliest days. Which I mean good to be honest I mean I know a lot of people like those but in my opinion those are your worst years. Why would you want to relive those? But buccaneers owner co-chairman. Ed Glaser said in the statement that this is this new but familiar. Look as a direct result of valuable feedback we received from our fans. We are excited to return to our classic. Super Bowl era uniforms while also introducing a sleek color rush uniform that showcases our signature pewter in a new dramatic way the refresh classic design of our home and away combinations. Bridges are passed with our exciting new future and we are confident it will resonate with our fans so looking at it you do have the pewter which is a weird gray. But they didn't really. I mean they changed the numbers. Obviously the change a number. Two more of an Atlanta Falcons numbers and this is very funny. Actually this whole segments can be kinda funny because the buccaneers basically changed her uniform. To look like the Falcons. And then the Falcons changed their uniforms. Not The buccaneers thankfully but the Falcons changed their uniform but the bucks kind of change. There's the look like the Falcons so yeah so if a rules there's mandate the NFL rule. Uniforms can't be changed more than once. Every five years wearing the previous uniforms through twenty nine thousand nine. The bucks went thirty four and sixty two third worst in the NFL and did not reach the postseason at all in those in those five years so you have an all white combination which with red letters read block numbers and stuff like that. Then you have a read a Red Jersey with white block numbers and then you had the pewter with red accents and white block numbers it looks. Pretty Nice. I mean it's kind of basic in my opinion but I mean they look pretty nice to look at the numbers look better. They're more readable there so of course they went back to there two. They went back to the color scheme that went to in one thousand nine hundred seven under the current ownership glazer family. They unveiled new color scheme. That red red black white and pewter which is what they are still wearing now. Key team kept that look for seventeen years. They went one thirty three thirty nine. Five or six postseason they won. They won a super bowl through that. So the -puter helmet will have an oversized logo that made its debut in two thousand fourteen or main. But we'll have a black face mask instead of chrome which is kind of cool in my opinion black face mask can't go wrong but it's kind of Harkening back to the super bowl super bowl winning Tampa Bay and I mean think about the Jersey salesman because they already sold. They probably already sold a lot of dirge with Tom. Brady signing. They probably soul are going to sell more now because of the Tom Brady sign. I don't know if people were waiting waiting until the new uniforms came out. I didn't know they were coming out with new uniform to be honest so I mean I'm sure some people are kind of pissed. It might be looking for an exchange there but Levante David. Who'S THE LINEBACKER for? He's a pretty good linebacker for the Tampa Bay buccaneers. Here's what he had to say knowing that they were victorious in those uniforms or uniforms. I feel like a lot of guys on the team. Feel like we need to get back to that and there's opportunity right now. I kind of get that feeling when I put them on. It's just different when you put on those put. Those uniforms on reminds you of the Times in Tampa when everything was on the up and up. Now we're trying to get back. Get it back to that way. New Uniforms new team new. Look now. He's just gotTa pull it all on the field so you go and then he goes on to say it's going to hit. I feel like they Davis said when asked how feel see Brady wearing the uniform for the first time it's GonNa hit reality is going to set in. We've got one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time one of the greatest dude one of the greatest guys to play the position and it's going to bring that winning mentality to our program so Tampa Bay. They seem pretty happy about it now. Head over to the Atlanta Falcons. They released theirs on Wednesday here and the main thing is that a black is back. The Falcons they haven't they haven't worn black very often. They announced Wednesday their new uniforms for the two thousand twenty season. Making the first redesign in seventeen years. The New Falcons home uniform will feature Black Jerseys and black pants black or home while the away look will be white on white. So they're pretty much going for all color way here but there are eight uniform. Combinations including a throwback version to the nine hundred sixty six team and a rise up alternate uniform so so you have the all black. That's their official home. You've got the all white. That's their official way. Then they have their throwback from nineteen sixty six they're nice throwbacks with the old Falcon just black and white pants and stuff like that. It Looks Pretty Nice. Then you have the rise up alternate uniform which is like Red Gradient to black and then you have black paint. It looks bad. I just want to say so these uniforms. I'm not a big fan of kind of basic the Kinda. Just sit too simple. I understanding minimalism is more of more of a thing. These days and I love minimalism. Especially when it comes to logos and stuff like that but when it comes in uniform cheating a little more nuance there but their uniforms are literally just. I mean they have like a line down the side there but their uniforms just have very ugly block. I don't like the font of the T. L. on the front. The numbers there. Okay someone the Carolina. Panthers made a funny twitter posts comparing them to the. What is it called the longest yard the long yard uniform? Some people have compared on exit. Fell uniforms stuff like that so so team team. Owner Arthur blank addressed the changes in a letter starting by discussing the corona virus pandemic any reference. The importance of the back to black. The black has been part of our history since nine hundred sixty six. Both our fans and players have asked us to bring it back. The moniker is known around the world. And we now wear it. Proudly as a badge of unity diversity and togetherness something our world needs more of especially in these tough times so like I mentioned that includes four jerseys black home. Wideawake gradient alternate as throwbacks. Four pants black white red and throwbacks and one helmet which is saddened black and they have now new chrome facemask. Was the phase pencils. Pretty good for the Black Helmets. Looks pretty good there. So they use nearly two decades of fan research and collected reaction for focus groups online and social media. They also took input from current and former players who decided it would be wise to own read but bring on the black reflect the progress of the city and keep things simple while staying true to the roots internal discussions for the change began in two thousand sixteen with the process. Officially beginning in January twenty eighteen is a collaborative effort with the NFL Nike to produce the final product. So Matt Ryan quarterback. The Falcons says there's just a feeling to it. I can't explain it when you look in your locker and that color and head to toe in black is going to be good too. I don't know what it is but I know there's a feeling that comes with it for the guys to when we see that in our lockers. Greg Jarrett defensive tackle said I think the new uniforms give us give the city new energy and I think people are really going to be excited about it and then Dan. Quinn also expresses enthusiasm of not getting fired yet. I couldn't be more thrilled to see this look come together. Not only will. The players be happy. I think our fans will be happy. I know the head coaches during this tough time for so many. We hope this new look gives our fans something to look forward to well so far. No I mean I've seen a couple I've seen some mixed reactions on twitter about it. I mean mostly. It's negative in my opinion but then again there from other fan bases so I don't know how accurate that stuff is at the moment in time but it's it's it's it's okay. It's alright so I have to say for the Falcons. It's okay but when we come back. We'LL DISCUSS THE DOLPHINS. Will they trade up to get the number one? Pick and shock the world if you will when we return check out the show that's built on the MMA from UFC two extreme cage biting. They got the fights covered check out the GMC MMA. Podcast get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join US as we've talked to in about some of the biggest names in the past present and future when it's the fight game there's just one show to check out. Gsm See podcasts. Dot Com backslash M Dash podcast. Don't forget select them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gsm See podcasts. Dot COM FOR MORE INFO. One of the bigger questions for the NFL draft. Right now is whether or not the. What are the dolphins going to do with that number bottle number five pick? They keep it draft a quarterback or use it to trade up and draft another quarterback Of course right now. I believe mocks or giving them Justin Herbert or to a tunnel depending on what happens between two and four seems one hundred percent. Likely the borough will be going to Cincinnati. That just makes a lot of sense kind of the number one pick that everyone says however you know we're we're we're putting some danger in there might be a smokescreen might be just something to scare. Cincinnati a little bit or not scares scare Washington scared Detroit or something like that to kind of Make decision and not get chase young. Maybe that might be. That might be the course of action. Here I'm not really sure but by means options are limited and he's trade possibly would have competition of course the number one pick owned by Cincinnati. Right now seems highly unlikely for them to trade up and get that one. But there's a report that the dolphins wanted to try to get. Lsu quarterback Joe Borough but the Bengals also one borough so why would the Bengals do anything like that? Why why would they do anything like that? I mean that makes no sense. I mean for instance if you're the Cincinnati bengals and you have the number one pick in the NFL draft and then you have heisman trophy winner. Lsu quarterback Joe Borough. He's the prize. Why would you trade that pick? It would be insane. Nobody nobody would understand. What would why that would happen? But we need to start addressing the borough to Miami thoughts right now. So let's flip it around if you're the dolphins and you have the number one pick. What would you demand from the bengals or any team in exchange for that pick? This is a league? Which quarterback is the number one? Need you need a quarterback to win. Games. I mean you can go pretty far. Jimmy Garoppolo he was. He was an average at best quarterback this past year especially in the Playoffs Ryan. Tannehill struggled in the playoffs and they made it to the AFC championship game. So I mean you know but the fact of matter is if you do not have a solid built team around you. Hence the dolphins you need a quarterback and the bengals they seem done with anti and Don. They seem done with the Andy Dalton. I wouldn't say experience because experiment because they ended on was pretty play pretty well for the Bengals in my opinion for the entire time he was there. But so when you have top notch prospect in your sights. A possible franchise quarterback. Why in the world would you send him to another team? But here's the of course Miami once Joe Bureau. Of course. Everyone wants to burrow everyone who doesn't have an Aaron Rodgers. Patrick mahomes whatever they want. Joe Borough probably the Carolina. Panthers probably won't show right now but the fact of the matter is you can't. There's only one team that can have them and the best team in that spot. Right now is the Cincinnati Bengals number-one pick the only reason the Cincinnati. Bengals wouldn't get Joe Borough which by the way it would still be insane if they don't but they if they the only way I can see this working out it's either re-sign Eighty Dollars Sign Camden or James Winston Trade. That number one pick or get chased young number one pick trae the number one pick for more picks or graph chase young with the number one. Pick throwing the whole draft out of whack because the redskins are then. The redskins are going to get borough then if they draft chase young at number one. I mean that would throw the whole draft out of whack. That'd be fun to watch in my opinion but I don't think they're going to take a chance on thirty-one-year-old Cam Newton. I don't think they're gonNA take a chance on Jameis Winston when you have a. I wouldn't say a sure thing because there's been plenty of number one picks in the NFL NFL draft. That didn't work out especially at quarterback. I wouldn't say Joe Boroughs a sure thing but if you are where the bengals are where they have a solid. They still have. Aj Green they have a pretty solid defense and offense they can build a round. Joe Borough then why would you take a chance on a Camden Noronha? James Winston we get Joe Borough. You can kinda mold him to what you want him to be. And you know stuff like that. That'd be that I I mean to be honest when I was Bengals Fan. I'd kind of be cheering for that. I know you want Joe Borough. He's like the hometown kid or whatever. But if you get cam. Newton Cam Newton who is out there trying to prove everyone then he deserves to be on an NFL team. You Cam Newton and get that solid team built around him and then you use that draft pick to either trade back more picks or fractious young and then you just you're defend the line becomes even better. I mean that stuff would be great and all but that's probably not happening. They're probably going to get Joe Borough and then yeah so the number to pay. What about the number two pick? It's owned by Washington redskins. There's some possibilities there. But it's doubtful. The team wants to pass on Ohio state. Defensive and chase young there have been rumors than Washington might go after two ordered blanking on his name. Justin Herbert they could go after one of them. But I don't see it the redskins. They already got Wayne. Haskins and I don't think they're willing to give up Andre and Haskins just yet but it is it is it could possibly happen however I don't see that happening But there are some possibilities Washington there they do have the have some other holes to plug up so I mean they have other holes plug up. They did try to sign. Amari Cooper. Couldn't keep get the STAR RECEIVER FROM RETURNING TO DALLAS CODY. Lattimore wouldn't come close to solving concerns about outside receiver. They're looking for an outside receiver. Defense Align Help. Wouldn't you know wouldn't hurt stuff like that tight end? Maybe I mean that's what they're looking for but you can't pass up on chase young. He's a huge talent especially here in the in defense line number three Detroit. Lions Detroit has mentioned that they might want to trade back. There's been rumors going around that they might want to trade back. This is where Miami realistically can start exploring if it wants to take to a tunnel. Evola who of course because medical? There's medical flies because of his ankle because of his hip stuff like that and especially the last few years to acquire this number one number three pick from the lions they might have to Bala teams such as the chargers who also need a quarterback charge own number six pick and then a bidding war with any team could run the price up to an uncomfortable level. Miami has handled the situation pretty well so far. If you're not sure whether this new dolphins administration led by General Manager Chris Group greer coach Bryan. Florez knows what they're doing take comfort knowing. They've played the draft game brilliantly so far in the past few weeks. Miami is linked has been linked to quarterback Lsu quarterback Joe Borough. They've been linked to Alabama quarterback to a tunnel. They've been linked to Oregon quarterback Justin Herbert while at the same time. A reminder was brought up Miami owner Steve. Ross might not be sold on Tugela vote. No one knows what the dolphins are thinking the number pick more than likely. They're going for quarterback right now right now they have Ryan. It's Magic Fitzpatrick they've Ryan Fitzpatrick. And they have dropped Rosen. That's that's to back on that team so more than likely they're going for a quarterback unless chase youngest still available a huge talent chase young or something like that was available but no one knows what they're thinking. They've they've said they're interested in all three quarterbacks they must consider it a must to draft quarterback in the first round. But perhaps they're okay with that not happening. It'd be hard to believe. But no one knows for sure. Because the dolphins and Seth Lee money up the waters but more than likely. They're going to draft Herbert more than likely. That's going to be only quarterback available to to either GonNa drop to the chargers. In my opinion he's either going to drop. The charges. Are The lions going to draft and draft. Him doesn't make a lot of sense because Matthew Stafford although he does have some injury issues Matt. Stafford is still really good quarterback in this league and most time. He's kind of like Tony. Romo actually perfect. That's a perfect analogy. He's Tony Romo except for the Lions Lions. Don't don't succeed but it's not because of Matthew Stafford Bath. You staffer throws for four thousand yards every year. That's Stafford's insane at quarterback just saying but here's another thing. I mean the dolphins. They have three first round. They've three first. Round picks the number five the number eighteen in the number twenty six so they could easily trade up to number three. If Detroit wants to they could train up to number two of the redskins are up to trading as well so they could trade up. Get Chase young but we won't know until it actually happens and that's kind of a out answer but there's a lot of moving parts that could happen here. I personally liked the Bengals screwing everything up by getting my getting can. New Out of nowhere so That's what I'm voting for. But we all know that might not. That's probably not going to happen so when we return. I just found spider in my room when we return. We'll talk about the premier league financial we'll head into the financials of the Premier League in how teams might be struggling right now when we return. Are you looking for help with your fantasy football team checkout GMC fantasy football podcast? Get today's best advice on who start who to sit even who you should draft from sleeper. Picks to read hotline. They got it all covered for you. That's GSM see podcasts. Dot Com slash fantasy dash football dash. Fogcast we'll cover traditional leagues dynasty. Cpr even I dp when you need fantasy. Hope there's just one showed up. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gs MC PODCAST DOT COM for more info because of the corona virus. Is We do for most segments now. Because of the corona virus the Premier League is not playing. They suspended their they suspended operations. The new cycle has been dominated. I'm sorry they've suspended operations. I don't know when exactly this has been because I don't really pay attention to premier league but I'm assuming it was sometime when Italy shutdown and stuff like that but the premier league has been suspended for for at least a month I think. The news cycle has dominated by talk of bailouts. Pay-cuts potential lawsuits as a professional game has struggled with the greatest financial threat. It has faced in peacetime. Now here's the thing though. Here's an interesting thing to think about. How is one of the most profitable leagues in the entire world? Struggling hard with finances so football is far alone. is far from alone in this regard. Construction retail travel any sector that the ban depends on people being able to go out to congregate and spend freely is in a fight for survival gin through this will depend on a combination of luck nimble management and what state you were in when it started to paraphrase former British Prime Minister David Cameron's favourite criticism of his predecessor. Did you fix the roof? While the sun shining the logic analyzed all the premier league club accounts filed at Companies House over the last few months and the answer for the majority of them would appear to be. There has been very little. Do It yourself done ahead of the storm. The accounts are awful says John Purcell. Who's the CO founder of financial analysis firm visible? The numbers had fallen off a cliff for some of the clubs long before this crisis so while Dr Dan Plumlee the sports finance expert at Schiff Sheffield Hallam. University says a financial shock. Cova one thousand nine has brought to light just how stretched the industry and how many clubs live from hand to Mouth Crystal Palace. Newcastle United have taken advantage of an emergency measure that gives businesses three extra months to publish their ear and figures. So we don't we do not know yet for sure what impact the two thousand eighteen twenty nine hundred season had on their books. But we do know what happened at the other eighteen clubs and then stuff of accounts nightmares. So if we use the two thousand seventeen twenty thousand figures for palace and Newcastle the League's total income. Last season was four point. Eight billion pound euro swimming as euros Americans are with most clubs reporting rises albeit mainly small ones in all three revenue streams broadcast commercial in matchday. Unfortunately as that other great business age and former Tottenham owner Alan Sugar. Memorably pointed out. This money goes through clubs like prune juice of the eighteen teams which we have up-to-date numbers only Waterford reduce their wage bill year on year. If we include the old figures for palace and Newcastle which are almost certainly lower than last. Season's leagues overall staff cost top. Three billion euros. This means they spent sixty four percent of their income on wages but that is just the average born mouth Everton lies. Chester all spent more than eighty percent of their turnover on staff. In fact exactly half the League spent more than seventy percent of their income on wages a level that automatically raises red flags for European football's governing body the UEFA according to the Lloyd's annual review of football finance last May the wage turnover ratio was rising across Europe's Big Five Leagues England. France Germany Italy and Spain with the Premier League's figure rising for fifty five percent in two thousand sixteen twenty seventeen to fifty nine percent. Twelve months later so premier league financial stats wage over turnover in two thousand eighteen twenty Nineteen Sheffield. United is one is up one hundred ninety five percent. Austin Villa is up one seventy five percent. Norwich is up one sixty one percent everyone else's under a one hundred percent but but the lowest is tiny ham which went up thirty nine percent still so the ways turnover figures for three promoted teams. Aston Villa Norwich City and Sheffield united or even worse. One hundred seventy five percent hundred. Sixty one percent ninety-five percent respectively. But that's par for the course in the championship which is a disaster zone for those who liked balanced books. Untidy tidy profits. Just do underline with those figures being Sheffield United. Spent one point ninety five pence on wages for every one euro that came that pound might be pound. I don't know I don't know what these fancy symbols are might be pound. I'M NOT GONNA I'M GONNA be in my pal especially since I think. Pe- is pence anyways. Travel costs utility costs repairs insurance paperclips. They all add up pretty soon. They start nibbling into the overdraft the cumulative pre-tax loss for eighteen clubs to found their accounts in nearly three hundred million pounds. We're just going to go pounds from now on. Lots of the clubs are in a terrible state says per cell. I'm not picking on them but I was not surprised to see reports this week. That West Ham are looking for extra financing of thirty million. It's so predictable. The use of averages and totals also irons out perhaps most obvious point to make about the state of the industry before the pandemic struck the Premier League is not a collection of equals which is obvious. Nfl's collection of equals collection of equals. No Sports Leagues Collection of equals because more than likely the New York Los Angeles the texts team. They're more likely going to have more money. Just saying six clubs account for nearly three billion or sixty one percent of that total turnover arsenal who has slid in recent seasons. Who six in the big six mini-league earn three hundred sixty seven point? Five million in two thousand seventeen twenty eight thousand one hundred seventy six point eight million more than West. Ham's best of the rest. Total of one hundred ninety point seven million. That deficit is about the same as born mouth. In Austin Villa brought in between them as you can see as I already told you turnover. You have Manchester United Man City. They lead Manchester United Man City Liverpool. They're in the top three here than at the bottom of Sheffield with twenty nine point nine million in turnover. So the League's biggest Manchester United. Turns over more than three times as much as West Ham exactly four times as much as Crystal Palace in Southampton Manchester City and Liverpool. Second and third in the money list and as competitive off the pitch as they were on the pitch. That season earned four times. The amount of board myth brought in so the only way the clubs further down the economic ladder can even hope to compete with the big earners on the pitch to spend the higher percentage of their income on salaries and ask their owners to keep topping up the shortfalls. These clubs also tend to be more reliant on the main source of income which is stay with me. Everybody broadcast rise television. Yeah Hey we've discussed that two weeks ago. There was one economic marker that tells the story of English football rise from the from the tragedy of the Bradford city fire and the High Sell Stadium Disaster. In Nineteen ninety-five in Hillsboro in one thousand. Nine hundred nine. It would be incredible amounts of companies around the world that have been willing to pay to televise sports soccer when the premier league split from the English Football League in one thousand nine to the top flights domestic rights were worth less than forty million a season. Nobody even noticed what the international rights were worth this season. The calls will share about two point five billion in broadcasting rights between them with the rest going in parachute and solidarity payments to the EFL assorted goods causes and central cost. These rights deals have been negotiated centrally using usually on a three year basis and distributed more evenly than any other big league in Europe. The best clothes will still get more than the worst. But the margin is tighter than in France Germany Italy or Spain. Cra- creating the idea that the premier league is more competitive so the key landmarks are the backed back increases of seven percent in the premier league managed to persuade domestic rivals. Bt and Sky Sports to cough up in two thousand twelve in two thousand fifteen to broadcast declared a truce before the two thousand eighteen rights auction resulting in a slightly reduced return from the league but nobody really minded as the appetite for English. Football abroad means the international rights are now nearly as valuable as domestic. Once with thirty percent increase from overseas deals and overall twenty one thousand nine hundred twenty twenty two broadcast pot is eight percent up so of course we've discussed the two weeks ago. Tv rights me. Nothing if you're not putting anything on TV's or they're losing all of that money. They're they're losing all that money right there just based off not playing so the permeating has been giving people around the world what they want for nearly thirty years but now for reasons beyond his control cannot and because it has perhaps been a little too generous with its players and their representatives. It is not as robust position as a physician of his stature. Should be you do not need to be an account to know that born with who gets eighty eight percent of their revenue from broadcasters and spent almost all of that on wages are in a tough spot even Frugal Burnley with their balanced books. Lean very heavily on the league's biggest backers getting football back on fans screens paramount importance to them as we mentioned two weeks ago. Tv is so important so important. Nobody's immune Manchester City. Perhaps with almost limitless wealth of Abu Dhabi behind them will emerge relatively unscathed Manchester United night as many mattress and noodles partners. Do not look so stupid now. Everyone is looking for other sources of income but they end the other big clubs need the exposure the Premier League Champions League give them to make their numbers add up so the premier teams of Premier League. That are kind of struggling here which you don't really expect them to. Because it's the premier league you don't think of the Premier League teams ever struggling on anything but when we return to the Premier League when we return we'll talk corona virus how it could cause a use sports recession when we return. Are you looking to get your college football? Beck's looking to get the latest news on your Favorite Schools Team Diaz Empty College football. Podcast is your ticket to all things college football. Join us as we talk college football from the National Championship. The college rivalries the bowl game to the heisman trophy so which converts is the best. We've got you covered for the big ten as these big twelve the PAC twelve. Adc and everything in between download GMC College Football podcast on Itunes Stitcher soundcloud. Google play or anywhere you God Gaffes Jazz tied gs Mc in the search bar found the great article on the Wall Street Journal by Rachel Bachman. She publishes yesterday or on. Tuesday April. Seventh it is is title Corona Virus Kukoc Youth Sports Recession Kizer at home and the slumping economy means. Some could stay there so I'm going to give you a gist of what well now. I'm going to tell you everything that the scar articles goes through. But I'll be breaking in tidbits out all during all of it so early. Two Thousand Sixteen. Thomas Bach traveled Silicone Valley as facebook twitter youtube and Google for advice. Bach is the president of the International Olympic Committee. Wanted to learn how the multi billion dollar Olympic Games for decades broadcast. Tv juggernaut could better reach young. On audiences balked hold the companies. He also saw them. As competitors kids spend more time on their habit forming wears. He worried they were spending less time playing sports and the fewer of them might go on to become Olympia NHS he mentioned in a two thousand eighteen interview than these smaller. The base of the pyramid the weaker the pyramid at the end which makes sense boxer physical inactivity or growing before our eyes. Where'd million kids are hunkered down on the couch amid say at home orders to curb the spread? The Corona virus pandemic swimming pools are closed basketball. Hoops removed from public courts. School teams seasons. Postponed or cancelled organizers. Hope the halt in kids sports will end in the coming weeks or months but with ten million Americans applying for unemployment benefits in March financial hit from Corona virus could lead to a long-term whole opportunities for kids to play. There are already signs. It is starting to erode funding the development of future Olympians as the governing bodies. React to the postponed the Tokyo Two Thousand Twenty Games these short-term impact is going to be dramatic said Dave Dupont. Ceo and Co founder of team snap which provides software used by nearly twenty three million people to coordinate activities. Mostly in use sports organizations are not going to survive. There are not going to be as many around team. Snap has been seen in eighty percent. Rob Uses uses. His APP Dupont said and he recently was forced to furlough half the company staff of about one hundred president trump tweeden on Saturday for little league players to hang in there and continued. We will get through this together and Bass will be swinging before you know it by little league. International has suspended activities through at least may eleventh and has shown little sign that it's two million baseball and softball players worldwide. We'll be playing soon lowly presidency. Yo Steve Keener said. He's optimistic. Parents will find a way to overcome the slumping economy and get their kids back into sports. What they resume I know as a parent myself do things for kids. And you'll put down your own needs on the back burner in order for them to have what they enjoy by the global recession of two thousand seven to two thousand nine suggest there could be long term damage so the share of children regularly playing team sports in the US dropped from nearly forty five percent in two thousand eight to thirty eight percent in two thousand fourteen according to data from the sports and Fitness Industry Association so even by twenty eighteen when the economy had greatly improved. The sheriff kids playing sports hand rebounded. And there's there's a good reason why which all discuss that towards the End Luli. Pledges Not not deny child. The opportunity to participate do the ability pay but sudden downturn from month. Old Pandemic is unlike anything. That's come before twe. In Huntington New York Try Village Little League one parent ask for a refund of one hundred seventy five fee after. She and her husband were furloughed from their jobs. Leave Volunteer Roger. Snyder said the mom called me up and said we really kind of needed. Neither of us are working mainly rely heavily on player fees to operate and registrations have come to a standstill. Lind Berlin Manuel Overseas Group. Thirty thousand soccer coaches at all levels of the sport estimates that by the time it's safe to resume pay as many as twenty five to thirty percent of U. Soccer Clubs in the US could have folded that goes lower or higher based on a time. Element he said. He's the CEO of united soccer's soccer coaches in recent years. The rising cost of playing youth sports including Pricey travel teams has created grown defied a divide less than twenty two percent of kids in the lowest household income bracket played sports on a regular basis in two thousand eighteen about twice that share forty-three percent of children of household incomes. One hundred thousand and above. Did THIS CRISIS COULD FORCE? Even more of divide so dupont leaders. Hope that the pandemic could force a rethink of how kids sports are organized and supported unlike many other countries the US has no Ministry of sports the US Olympic and Paralympic Committee is government funded. You sports are multibillion dollar industry of Independent for profit and nonprofit groups that have little to no financial reserves because it is private driven. It's going to suffer. There's no question about that. Clay Walker Executive Director of the National Fitness Foundation which is the only Congressional chartered nonprofit focus on health and fitness. But I believe when the reexamination happens. People are going to say we need to take care of our country. You sports are important way of creating equity health so that everybody has an equal opportunity late last year. The National Endowment for New Sports Nonpartisan Nonprofit Fund that use sport organizations could apply for to for grants. The aim is to fight on two fronts. Rising obesity levels and the increased cost of kids playing sports. The endowment aims to raise one hundred million dollars by two thousand twenty three something. Walker acknowledges will be the challenge in the post will be a challenge in the in the Post Corona virus financial world. Meanwhile the cuts keep coming facing a budget crunch. Due to event cancellations National Governing Body cycling decided to protect the funding for athletes. It's helping get to the postponed Tokyo Olympics or twenty. Twenty one to do so. It's curtailing investment in younger writers. We basically furloughed development Olympic efforts Peres in Los Angeles said Robert De Martini. Usa Cycling Presidency. Oh the six month I has could have a little more effect on athletes than his already. Had the races they would have done have been cancelled. So you sports are very important in the grand scheme of things for everything every professional athletes. Ucla has played a use board at one point us. Sports are important. Not only for you know for the children for for them to get get their physical activity and stuff like that stay healthy. It's also important for just sports in general. I mean you see you see baseball. Baseball's trying to get their youth movement in a little bit more because less and less kids are playing little league baseball football. There's a huge issue for football because with concussions and stuff like that coming to light a little league. Football is now becoming a little bit more dangerous than people don't want to don't want their kids a plate. Which is understandable. In my opinion I believe kitchen. Get to play football until at least middle school at least but so you have all that going on but you. Sports is very important for the development o sports. Because you can't have a sport if you don't have new people coming in I mean that's true but it's especially especially tougher. These Olympic sports like we mentioned cycling. It's going to be. It's going to be tough on cycling. It's going to be tough on track and field. It's going to be tough on gymnastics south gymnastics. It's more of a private thing I believe but they do have they do have organizations do have programs where anybody can do it. Anybody can do it. How much their parents make or anything like that? The bottom line is this is going to be an issue and it's going to be an issue that we're going to have to look over once. This is all done because now kids they can stay indoors. They could play video games and guess what like we mentioned a week ago or something like that each sports are gonNA become bigger now. That's my opinion. I think he's going to become more. And more popular. There are already pretty popular among kids. Kids WATCH TWITCH WATCH. People play video games all the time on twitch. It is a huge thing. Youtube Youtube audience is a lot of children so that every kid wants to become a youtuber. Now you add that with the fact that they're not going outside. They're not allowed to go. It's either not allowed to go play sports with your friends. You're going to see a huge downturn on youth sports and you'RE GONNA to see a huge downturn on young athletes now. Of course you do have of course high school sports are still huge especially since cost next to nothing to join a high school sport and stuff like that. You just have to make the team. Basically or in my case I played football team that had no cuts so he basically just try out and you make the team basically as long as you keep our conditioning and stuff like that you can get kicked off the team of course but that stuff that is. I mean that is a thing that can happen but it is important that use the youth twenty three and I'm saying the youths but the is important for them to play more sports and you know improve the League prove all leagues that we love watching you know so this is a big issue here if you see an opportunity for If you see an opportunity to donate do any of these places do it. Just do it. It's not going to hurt you so save you sports. That's pretty much where I'm at right now. They might not be in complete danger. Like I'm saying right now but you never know. We'll find out so when we come back we'll do fifty nine through fifty of our of the athletics top one hundred sports movies of all time when we come back. 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Which I'm sure we're GONNA see rocky to hear a little bit. Probably you had you had to which I haven't seen but I've heard it's really good stuff like that. So let's head into fifty nine through fifty. We're headed to the halfway mark of this and we are half way for me trying to figure out one another daily topic to talk about which we'll get. I'll get out figure it out. Don't worry don't worry about me. But anyways number fifty nine is the hurricane nine hundred ninety nine average rating of seventy eight point five two. So this is based off a Bob Dylan movie. Believe it or not. Nineteen seventy five poetic anthem. Hurricane was about a racially motivated triple murder conviction of middleweight contender Rubin Hurricane Carter. It's followed brilliantly. Onscreen by Denzel Washington convincing betrayal in this one thousand nine hundred nine film won him a Golden Globe for best actor and he probably would have earned him an Oscar. We don't really know but I haven't seen the movie but I've heard the song the song for good if you have never heard the song. Hurricane by Bob Dylan's good song. Although there are some things about the Song Rubin Hurricane Carter was not going to be the heavyweight champion of the world according to Bob Dylan was going to be the HEDWIG. Jv The world. He was not going to be the heavyweight champion the world. He was a middleweight guy. But Yeah I mean. He was convicted of a triple murder. And I mean nobody's really sure. Who exactly did it. But he wrongly accused of it and he got wrongly convicted for it so hurricane Denzel Washington. And you can't go wrong with Denzel Washington. In my opinion anyone going global so check it out fifty eight Cinderella man two thousand five average rating of seventy nine point zero to Russell. Crowe did a great job. Portraying one of boxes unlikely heavyweight champions Jeans Jay Braddock more than sports movie. Cinderella man is a period piece the nicely depicts these struggles of a great depression and brax rise as the hero for the working man so Cinderella. Man I'm pretty sure I have seen this before but I'm not one hundred percent positive Probably means I had seen it to be honest but it's another boxing movie. We have a lot of boxing moves. Here's directed by Ron Howard. Won some screen actors. Guild awards nominated for reclaiming ward for best actor in a supporting role eighty percent of rotten tomatoes. I mean sounds pretty good. It's another boxing movies based on the Great Depression. So I mean there's like you can't go wrong there. Number fifty seven the warrior or just warrior two thousand eleven seventy nine point six bar set awfully low for flicks however fantastic acting credible fight scenes any story that pacts hunch warriors impressive for John for fight fans to simply the attention to the details of this fictional. Intimate world will be appreciated. I I don't I don't care. I'M NOT IN. May as we discussed when I talked about you. See that one time. I'm not much of an inmate guy so yeah not interested. Unfortunately number fifty six murder ball two thousand five after raiding seventy nine point two two needs some extra motivation washes two thousand five documentary about the US and Canada Paralympic Wheelchair Rugby Teams. Everything drama humor sadness and triumph and shows. Just how bad ass? We all can be when we start getting after. It don't know where that is. It's documentary about a Paralympics wheelchair. Rugby teams would. I didn't know wheelchair. Rugby is a thing. How does that work? I mean I'm not trying to be. I'm not trying to be you know I just don't know how that would work. But it sounds interesting to say the least number fifty five. Happy Gilmore one thousand. Nine hundred ninety six advocating a seventy nine points. The three who among us hasn't tried hitting a golf ball after a running start? Adam Sandler define the nineties with his slew of juvenile comedies and happy Gilmore is at the top of the list. The one liners or too many count and he got beat up by Bob. Barker enough said I have seen happy. Gilmore is a fantastic movie. I have a top golf. They specifically tell you not to hit the ball like that they tell you not too happy. Gilmore it one of the first things they tell you to do is to not happy more it so had more. It is a hilarious movie with a lot of memorable quotes and stuff like that great actors. I think Chris Farley Chris Farley was not in it. This is after Chris. Farley passed away but It's a pretty solid movie. In my opinion it also Bob Barker been up number four kingpin one thousand nine hundred six average rating of nine point three eight a gross out comedy of the highest order. Seems like Roy? Munson COW MILKING. It smells introduction dental floss Roy landlords post coil. Bliss could make plink flamingos era. Josh waters blush. Plus Bill Murray dripping sleaze and self-satisfaction as big ERN mccracken both steals the show and somehow anticipates professional bowling recent. Turn towards Kitsch and showmanship. If you're not up on kingpin you've months in your life. I don't know what that means. Not Picking bid but apparently I need to get up on picking Kingpin Bill. Murray in it so that that automatically makes a movie that I need to see so kingpin number fifty three eight men out in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight average rating of seventy nine point seven five. This movie is historically inaccurate but highly entertaining as the best baseball. Actually seeing on the big screen costumes are fantastic. Cast is impressive. And having a young John cusack play the homely buck. Weaver major stake improvement for the character. So Ayman Al is about the nine thousand nine hundred and black socks. I have seen this movie's a very well made movie. There are historical inaccuracies in their depends. How much you actually care about that. Though it is a good movie I mean they have pretty good job at portraying shoeless Joe Jackson and stuff like that by Jackson did nothing wrong. I just wanted to let you now. He is from Greenville South Carolina. So I kind of have a pride about him. For some reason. The so the baseball the Minor League Baseball Stadium in Greenville. Right across the street is where shoeless Joe grew up like. There's a little houses a museum. That's where shoeless. Joe Grew up like for real right next to the train tracks. It's crazy but amen out great movie. I've seen it before. So it's a good movie number. Fifty two lawn is your nine hundred. Seventy four advocating of eighty point zero six. Many sports moves from the seventies long as yard has many scenes that have an age. Well director Robert Aldridge. Who made some of the most testosterone filled movies in history? Such as kiss me deadly in the dirty dozen doesn't skimp on it here. Either as underdog cons led by Burt Reynolds go up. Against Well Oiled semi pro team made up of prison guards. The football scenes work is real. Nfl Joe Kapp and Ray Niche. I don't know how to say that name. Give the action some semblance of authenticity. It doesn't hurt their reynolds. Who Played Football at Florida? State as the part of the disgraced game throwing qb Paul crew. So I've seen bits and pieces of this. I've seen the newer one with Adam Sandler in it. I've seen bits and pieces of the older one so I don't know it as well as long as you're you can't go wrong with in my opinion but you know. I guess can number fifty one rounders nine hundred ninety eight average rating of eighty point. One rounders writers. Brian Koppelman Dave Levy on to thank for my favorite memories at Michigan State advocates. Movie came out. We started a Wednesday night poker game. That quickly became required every week. We get a few five pieces from soon. You pick up a thirty pack of old Milwaukee's best light for TEN DOLLARS FROM BIG TEN party store. Employees hold them until we broke. The conversation was just a series of rounders close in horribly teddy. Kgb Impressions. I'm paying you with your own money. Check check pay. That man is money. I lost enough in that weekly game. That walking back to parliament one ten in water's edge. We'll be like buckner walking back into Shea but I wouldn't trade it for anything so I don't know rounders is going to be honest but the guy wrote this seems like it a lot. I don't know what it is though so. I can't really comment on it but is about Poker Damon and number fifty. Uncut gems was recently came out this game on twenty nineteen. I've not seen this one. I've been meaning to see it for a while. Now average rating of eighty points sixteen so much alike about uncut gems from the casting. Kevin Garnett's very good apparently to the concept background noise. It really makes you feel the stress of a sports better walking in all time tight rope or at least what I imagine. That would be like so immersive that the insanity of betting opening tip props as part of an already longshot. Parlays manages to feel normal anytime of does sport watching movies. A hell way to get the adrenaline pumping. So I haven't seen this one yet. I've been actually meaning to see this before I saw it on. I didn't even know it was sports movie to be honest. I didn't know I didn't know I saw what was it. That's all the ratings. Were teaming up. Everybody really liked it. I haven't I haven't seen it but that is it. That is fifty nine hundred fifty. We'll do forty nine forty on Sunday and will probably finish this all up by next Sunday. Unfortunately for me but that is it for the podcast. Ladies and gentlemen if you like the PODCAST light reight. Subscribe to wear your podcast. You can follow me on twitter Astros. Leonard scored Josh. 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