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Fresh update on "rabies" discussed on John Tabacco's Liquid Lunch
"In Washington, D. C. I spoke with Dr John How A V M A president About one. Health health is really a collaboration between physicians and veterinarians. Public health officials, for example, in Minnesota state public health veterinarian deals with diseases Rabies, for example, animals or sentence for humans and humans are sentenced. For some infections. There's more valuable information at dot org's En bas superstar Kobe Bryant's widow, Vanessa, is suing the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department over leaked photos of the helicopter crash scene after her husband and 13 year old daughter and others were killed in that crash. The lawsuit claiming that no fewer than eight sheriff's deputies at the site pulled out their personal cell phones and snapped photos. Of the dead Children, parents and coaches. The lawsuit alleges that Sheriff Alex Villanueva attempted to then cover up the situation by telling deputies if they deleted the images, they would not face discipline. Federal agents in Chicago. Want to hear from any underage girls or boys who might be victims of Netflix? Cheers star Jerry Harris. People can go on a seeking victim Information Web page. Specifically created to gather evidence and harass his case to identify any minors who may have had inappropriate contact with him. Authorities say the victims may have used Snapchat er, instagram to communicate with arrows at cheer competitions. 21 year old actor is accused of coercing minors to send him nude photos and videos. He has also accused of soliciting sex from boys as young as 13. And for the eighth year in a row. The Dodgers are the National League Western champions. The doctors also clinching the top seed in the priest in the postseason. I should say And for use radio news. I'm Chris Barnes. The.
Los Angeles - Section Of Jeronimo Open Space Temporarily Closes After 2 Coyote Attacks
"Section of a popular hiking trail in Mission Viejo is now closed to Coyote attacks this morning. CBS two's great Mills has more from also quick trail. Besides closing the trail, the city of Mission Viejo posted a warning about the two attacks on Facebook. It's kind of scary Friday evening around dusk, Ron how Barrow was walking here when he had a close encounter of the coyote. Kinda Coyote darted right in front of me within, like, five feet of me. Actually follow me along the fence. Then he spotted another one. He decided his walk was over for the night. Laura Wittmer as running and she says she often sees counties. But this morning one bitter on the hell. She was able to drive herself to the emergency room and says she want to go Rabies treatments as a precaution of the next two weeks, the word on the condition of the other victim.
A rabid bat was spotted on a Seattle sidewalk this week
"The Seattle King County Health Department has posted an alert about a rabid bat found on a sidewalk in Ballard Witness has a woman Picked up and tried to move the bat to a Bush along Ballard Avenue in 22nd Avenue one Sunday, Health officials are urging anyone who had contact with the bat to see a doctor immediately. Rabies can be life threatening, but it's treatable if it's caught
The Case for Police Abolition
"At. The time of this recording one thousand seventeen people in the US have been shot and killed by police this past year, and as the numbers continue to grow. It's got meany questioning why we're even need cops in the first place, but the question of polishing the police also makes a lot of people nervous so today we're going straight to the source in talking to an actual abolitionist. Bill Fina Y'all on. It's an important conversation that you don't want to miss. This is the nod. We've heard it all before. Give Cops Body Cams hold them accountable, cautious need diversity and bias training. We need community policing black police. We need Brown police, but as the years roll by an efforts at reform are showing no signs of stopping the brutal violence against black people in this country, a different call gaining traction is the call to abolish the prison industrial complex, which is made up of prisons, policing and surveillance all forms contrary to what a lot of. Of people believe this isn't a new school. Of Thought, it's been around since the eighties, and it's been embraced by people all over the world. Much of what we know about it. Today has been studied practice and built upon three black women. We have to mention Angela Davis Ruth Wilson, Gilmore and Mariam Kaba Today. We're joined by bill. Fina Y'all want a Baltimore based restorative justice practitioner. Who writes about abolition and how to practice it in our community? It'll pheno. Thank, you so much for being here today. It's awesome. Have you thank you? Thank you for having me so abolition. Is Abolition essentially what we talk about admission we're saying is that a world cannot just without the physical presence of police in prisons, but a world where we all have, our needs met in a way that we do not have to commit the crimes that laid us in prison, and with policing right, and so abolition forces us to complete your frame how we think about the concept of prisons and lease, and to be honest about the history of it prisons. Prisons were created as an alternative to slavery. It says so and the thirteen th amendment, and so when we look if that that violence and genocide history of policing prisons, abolition says it's not possible for us to have world rabies dynamics exist so I'm sure we've all seen a lot of the back and forth in the media, and even just an online conversations about what's reformist versus what is abolitionist. What sorts of things are absolutely out of the question or Believed that we can have rover prisons and policing exist. We just have to make it better. And abolitionist believed that is not possible behalf to completely get rid of it and create new systems and structures. How did you come to fruition? Personally had become part of your life identified. The woman is came to woman is during college was definitely my sophomore. Year of college and I thought begins to stand what it means to exist as A. A black woman in this world I understood this system is structured. That are against US I think a lot of people don't understand that the reform to slavery with prisons. The reform to slave catchers was police, and so when you have stopped with that truth as a woman as as a former refugee as an immigrant to this country will hold, I, experience, it was not possible for me to say I love blackness and not become an abolitionist. Something else. That's near and dear to your heart, and also the work that you do is the story of Keith Davis Junior talked to us a little bit about Keith and his story so keep Davis Junior. Is a twenty eight year old black man for Baltimore, who was shot at? Times by the Baltimore Police Department in June of Twenty fifteen. He's being accused and they're saying that it gun was founded in Keith was connected to a murder. In March he was sentenced to fifty years, and after five years in five rows, Amish. It's been an ongoing case that five years WWLTV's dedicated to. Always bring her into the space. Kelly Davis has four beautiful children and Khloe Amari and Jaden and his case is so connected to what was happening in Baltimore after Twenty fifteen after the murder of Freddie Gray talk to me a bit about how keeps life and story relates specifically to your Abolition Work Keith case is connected to abolition one, if forces us to see kids humanity beyond what he did as a child chief, interaction with the criminal justice system started very early, and what we know is that it was a result of all of the conditions that came with Keith birth his stories parents. Parents his poverty, and so forth, and so as a result of that chief found himself funneled into a system. That once you've been in there. It's easier to keep coming back. If Selah commits a crime, we have to ask ourselves if the necessities of somebody is not being met, and instead were thrown them in a cage cage is actually more violent and transformed into a even more violent person with Keith case what we've seen has been a blatant disregard for any kind of laws, any kind of good faith and what we saw for the past five years is lies and lies and lies and confirms. That meet cannot possibly rehabilitate a system that has no
Petit Bourgeois Loire Sauvignon Blanc 2019
"This day from cheap wine fighter dot com again and we're GONNA. Talk about why we did a full review on the cheap wine, five dot com website for a one one of my favorites. This with teeth bourgeois. Saab, Yom blocked from on rabies a Joie. From, the Lord, Valley and I love Laura Valley. Sauvignon blocks favorite one to a tasting long time ago, even be four New Zealand became a thing. And it was just bad tactic. I loved it and. Even though this isn't from the fancy places, this is not sincere. Or however you that pronounced. Fancy places I've this is just the regular. They call this their entry crude they. Family Bourgeois has been in lower valley continuously. They say sometimes it doesn't happen for ten generations, which is a long long time specializing Soviet block and feeling you're. So. They know what they're talking about and. I don't know. Says the. WHO's wild bottle? It says in the back that doesn't mean much. Though family! Was Wise probably ones made it, and so you know there's all these legally things and plus their websites as I, G P. De la. OBE. Level below the. AFC wines. The government regulated wines, but the wine label says it's table wine, which is the bottom thing? So. I hate wine labeling. It doesn't tell you anything, but this is from people who are making wine in the area, making this kind of wine for generations. I love the stuff. I went to a wine tasting and it tastes like sunshine bottles smells great to taste. And every time I tell people I love. Laura Valley Savvy unblocking Oh. Yes, I'm crazy about sincere. No No, no, it's like. The regular stuff you don't need the. Really Good I'm not complain about San Sear. But. That's all you ever hear about you know. Get the regular ten dollars stuff. It's hard to find. You can go to any grocery store and find a New Zealand, Soviet, block and probably stuff from the central coast of California, and maybe even chilly, and what have you? Try to find a valley ten dollar twelve dollar. This was ten ninety nine sale. You can't it's. Amazingly good so. Because, it's got that kind of a city. That kind of makes you take a SIP. You don't want to go, you know. vitas graphic drink. They don't think. That's a good. Thought not that thing thinking all that important when you're drinking. Whatever? Here. We go, so this is. Every day. Saab Yom Block. This is the kind of wine that people in France drink fits. If it's eleven dollars here, it might be a couple of bucks cheaper. They're. Going to blow out your budget, and this is this, is it? This is great. Taste doesn't have that the spiky thing you'd get from. New Zealand Samuela. Flay or spikes, which is actually kind of appealing Ben. Can't complain about that is that is kind of what's cool about? New Zealand soviet-bloc. This kind of got. More. Smoother all encompassing thing going on just the knows is beautiful flavors rate. It's just easy to SIP. You want to keep drinking it. Really this my favorite you know can of. This is one. The first Lower Valley Sabi on blocks written about and we've been doing. Cheap wine finder for. Eleven years. That's kind of like the point where. Going to the grocery store to buy Saab Block now. I'm going to have to go find. A good wine shopping leg fight my way through the sand sears every be jumping out at you and just trying to find a good simple everyday savvy on blind.
Trump administration is rushing to gut environmental protections
"Your host for the program is David. Cosso a DC based healthcare policy analyst. And we invite you to comment on the program by visiting the healthcare policy. Podcasts DOT COM. Now here's David. Welcome to the healthcare policy. Podcast I'm the host David Intro Cosso during this podcast discussed with Professor Michael Burger Executive Director of the Sabin Center for Climate Change at Columbia Law School. The trump administration's efforts to unwind the nation's environmental regulatory rules and the status of Climate Crisis Related Litigation. Professor Burger. Welcome to the program. Thank you for having me. Professor Burgers by was posted on the podcast website on background to state the obvious we interact with the environment constantly as a result. We are exposed to harmful animal-borne germs like viruses bacteria parasites or so called zoonotic diseases. Scientists s made more than six out of every ten known infectious diseases and three out of four new or emerging infectious diseases. Come from animals. Think Dengue Malaria Rabies covid nineteen according to the National Academy of Sciences. The environment is responsible for thirty percent of premature deaths. He Fi far higher percentage than healthcare prevents. This explains why minority Communities Face Higher Kobe. Nineteen related mortality. Upwards of three times their immune systems have already been compromised by degrade environment for example poor air quality despite for recognizing the adverse effects. The environment has on our health. The for example environmental impact statements. The trump administration has worked aggressively to gut the nation's environmental protections according to the Save Insanity Administration has unwound or ten zone wind approximately one hundred environment regulations ranging from power plant and car and truck. Co Two emissions. Mercury and hydrofluorocarbons emissions. Who was protecting wetlands from oil and GAS LEAK RULES REGARDING PESTICIDE? Use drilling fracking and coal leasing rules offshore oil and gas drilling rules etc concerned. The climate crisis listeners. Mary call my having discussed research. Polishing Twenty sixteen that concluded the adverse health effects resulting from the healthcare ministries greenhouse gas or carbon emissions our response properties Roberts of nearly one hundred thousand deaths annually in the US alone with begin discussing ministrations attack on Varma deregulations centers. Michael Burger so with that Professor Burger. Let me start by asking. If you can briefly describe the same incentives work sure The Saban Center is a think and do tank housed at Columbia Law School. We focus on Climate Change Law across the board meaning. We look at both mitigation related issues. How to go about reducing greenhouse gas emissions as well as adaptation issues to respond to climate change impacts that are already happening that will only increase in intensity and frequency over time. We are not policy shop so we don't do policy analysis. We're really team of lawyers. That focus very much on the on the legal aspects of climate policy. I and we do this at all. Scales of government from the from the local to the global We have a number of different things. We do On the side of our think and do tank We do what thinks generally do we produce a original research and writing on a range of climate law related topics we also produce An put up on our website free for public. Use a number of different resources for researchers lawyers policy practitioners students and others. These include our climate change litigation databases both US and non us. Our silencing science tracker our climate deregulation tracker which we launched on inauguration day in two thousand seventeen our legal pathways deep decarbonisation database which includes Hundreds of model laws setup for governments at all scales to adopt To achieve deep decarbonisation in the number of other tools on the do side of our thinking do tank We engage actively with partners including international organizations Domestic and international NGOs. Political staffers And representatives other academic institutions And others to leverage our expertise to have an impact on the real world so in this regard be Senate comment letters on environmental impact statements to end proposed regulations. We filed amicus briefs On behalf of scientists coalitions cities and others in big climate cases And we regularly seek to influence an inform public decision making around climate law and policy. So you're busy. Yeah we have our hands especially these days. Yes Okay. So let's go to these days So my next question. Let's get to the meat of this Though would take hours to detail the administration's assault on the environment. Let's focus on air quality since among other things accounts for a seven million deaths worldwide or degraded air-quality so Let's focus more over again on this subject. So what's the administration's policy toward amongst other issues Power Plant emissions. This was the Obama. Administration's Clean Power Plan Auto Tailpipe pipe and particularly as well of course methane emissions which is a much more potent greenhouse gas.
Chicago - Cook County announces $8 million in animal grants
"Kind of board president Toni Preckwinkle along with the department of animal and rabies control announced Monday that will go to animal shelters from housing cook county animals grants practical explains why I'm so excited to announce eight million dollars in grants to to area shelters that provide such so such vital services for our community south suburban Humane Society gets six million have instant receives twelve million the city of Evanston there
Non-Animal Origin cell culture supplements and manufacturing aids for biologics manufacturing
"Welcome TO THE CELL. Culture dish podcast. Non Animal origin cell culture supplement in manufacturing AIDS for biologics manufacturing. I'm Brandy Sergeant Editor of Cell Culture Dish joining me. Today is Dr Tobias Hurtig Regulatory Affairs Manager and Dr Tillman Product Manager Supplement in manufacturing and both with mark. Kgi Darmstadt Germany. I wanted to start today by asking if you could give us. A definition of non animal origin. Is there an industry wide understanding of the term? I would love to give you a definition for anymore origin or industry-wide definition of for anymore origin. Free or non anymore origin. Unfortunately there is no definition and there is no useful or clear. Definition provided by the regulator switch rate. Cipolla provide you a definition for animal origin. But not for non any minority with that in mind. What are the distinctions between primary secondary and tertiary levels for non an origin? So these determine partners attach level non anymore our Chin or animal origin. Free these terms are used to what people try to distinguish how far away they believe. The actual origin is for instance primary non anymore. Origin would mean okay. Something which is not directly derived from animal secondary on animal origin would be used when you want to say okay. He has something for instance last week. Produce Feminization and dissemination media did not contain any animal orchard material for instance recumbent insulin produced by bacteria. And if I may use the recumbent intimate as an example for tests and that could be used when you want to say okay. He is pro instantly which needs kieft into instantly by an enzyme. And this enzyme that I'm using a knot of animal origin and be also is not coming out of feminization which an arched material in media. These terms are not fully defined. So if you read about these terms you want to make sure that you really understand what the author or the user actually wants to tell you. Thank you for that. That's helpful as a basis for discussion. I was hoping you could also clarify vice for for listeners. Why is animal origin? Such a big concern in the cell culture realm let you start with why Edema or a Chin a concern. Animal origin is concerned. Typically with the from sound are adventitious agents coming with that animal material Dr However other concerns for instance dictate religious concerns halal kosher concerns around the origin. That could be lifestyle concerns that you think but we can waive alleged. Cheese are CO ever. These could also allergies. Ause topic focuses planned to proteins but they major issue are adventitious agents which could be so Nautica so they could cross the species barrier from the animal to human to the patient and causes disease with the patient These competitions agents might be viruses for instance sonars. A rabies are viruses that I've known to cross the species barrier or a protein protein-based agency like There the priors causing TSE pse. Other concerns are related to the supply situation so getting animal origin raw material. Importing that into your country could be associated with restrictions likewise she ever media produced which contains unlimited died might be import-restricted into the country. Where your customers sitting with the got to the Cell Culture? There is a another concern. And that is these the celts. The mammalian cell Kasha might be susceptible to such viruses. And if you OUGHTA robbing a nephew witcher on a bio rector unachieved g conditions. You need to tightly control your by tour and a virus might have a whatsoever effect to yourself. Kasha and from that point on your cell culture would not be regarded as p compliance. We talked a little bit about the fact that there isn't a regulatory definition of non animal origin. But I'm hoping that you could share with us. What the regulatory view on animal origin components is the regulatory few on Non Amel components is of course that this is the preferred As a regulatory person you would like to avoid any more mature whenever possible or you would expect that any moment you to comply with all the Pantin interrelations with regard to non animal materials and Lesser Regulatory Person. I feel that as much as I appreciate it. I always cautious because I don't want to end. Wishful thinking and due diligence is always required. Are those non animal materials. Don't get blind folded around the the documentation truly want to understand why this material is known in origin. So keep your eyes. Open your mind work with your suppliers as close as possible to truly understand when they talking about nine non anymore origin. Is that exactly what you want to half what you think? Non Animal Arjun is to avoid any ambiguity and confusion and at the end natives disappointment. I also feel like Worthwhile when you're auditing your vendors to question the the animal or non Hemel origin situation and to make sure that you're suppliers are in fact producing S. You wish to
Where Did The Coronavirus Start? Virus Hunters Find Clues In Bats
"All Right Emily Kuang Wave Reporter. Animal Lover Unabashed Animal Lover. It's true you and I both know that bats are amazing. That is not up for dispute on shortwave. They're important for pollinating flowers dispersing seeds. They catch bugs the same ones that bite us and eat up some of our crops but bats also harbor some of the toughest known zoonotic diseases. That's right the rabies virus the Marburg virus the Hendra and Nipah viruses. The Abullah virus outbreak in West Africa was traced to a bat colony. All these viruses find what's called a natural reservoir in bats meaning the viruses live in that host without harming it. Do We know why that is? It's a very interesting question so I used to say a million dollar question now as as a billion dollar question Lynn Fouling says it might have to do with the fact that bats are the only mammal that's adapted for flight because during flight. The body temperature goes to up to all the way to forty two degrees. That's super high. Forty two degrees Celsius is almost one hundred eight degrees Fahrenheit and their heartbeat goes up to a thousand beats per minute. They're burning a ton of energy flying several hours a day and this creates toxic free radicals that damage their cells but Linda's research has shown that bats have also evolved this ability to repair and minimize that cellular damage. Kind of counterstrike and those same defensive. Abilities may help them not only tolerate flight but also to fight infectious diseases in a way that the human body simply cannot so the essentially. Have this like super effective? Immune response rights so while our immune systems can get overwhelmed from fending off these viruses. He thinks bats don't our hypothesis is best has evolved. A different method is to get the balanced right for defense and Torrance and that famous virus to live peacefully with Bass and they're able to safely house these viruses in their bodies and not get sick from them. Got It so. Let's talk about why scientists think this particular corona virus could have come from bats. Well they got a big clue from the start so in early. January Chinese scientists were able to quickly sequence the viruses entire genome and then they published it online from that scientists begin to study the virus in-depth and around this time researchers at Wuhan Institute of Raji in China compared its genome to a library of known viruses right and found a ninety six percent match with Corona virus samples taken from Horseshoe Bats in Union. Yes the same kinds of bats that were natural reservoirs for the original SARS virus that broke out in two thousand three and this led them to believe that this new corona virus likely came from bats to right and from a genetic standpoint ninety six percent match. Sounds like a lot but that four percent can make a big difference exactly that that four percent difference is actually a pretty wide distance in evolutionary timing. It could be even decades. This is Robert Gary Ablett at Tulane University. And while that one paper says there's a ninety six percent match with bats that extra four percent to him suggests some other viral material may have gotten mixed in from another animal and that other animal could have even transmitted the virus to humans right. This is called an intermediate host or an in-between host correct. But when it comes to this corona virus scientists aren't sure if there was an intermediate host between bats and humans and if so they're not sure what the intermediate host could be. There are theories Robert and fellow. Researchers have hypothesized. This virus could be a blend of viruses from two different animals bats and something else. An early scientific studies suggest it could be this animal called Penguin this scaly ant eater vulnerable to illegal wildlife trade and virus penguins or some other animal. That has a similar receptor binding domain. So to buyers getting together recombining to make up a new Sars KOGI team but the important point to all this is that virus hunters haven't come to a definitive conclusion about the chain of transmission from animals to humans about the involvement of penguins and baths or any other host animal. Not on the level of proof. They need right like the genetic level. Yes we don't know definitively which animal or animals this came from. It will take time to figure out but we do know. This came from animals a bunch of scientists in mid-february publish this big letter in the Journal. Lancet saying evidence overwhelmingly points to wildlife as the origin for this corona virus. And Roberts stands by that too. I can tell you that this is a product of nature. It's not a virus. That has arisen in a laboratory by any scientists purposely manipulating something that that was then released onto a cup like that. That just didn't happen. Because if you look at the actual genome which Robert has done the evidence. Isn't there okay so you said earlier. While speaking to the researcher in Singapore that it took a decade to find out the actual origin of the virus that causes SARS the original SARS. Do we know how long it could take to figure out where this new corona virus came from. Oh Mattie I wished I had an answer for you. We don't it all depends on funding and resources. Doesn't it all gone and time like I keep saying? Throughout this whole episode investment in virus hunting right expanding the zoonotic studies to figure out the transmission chain between animals and people. Because if we know that we are armed with information that can help us. Prevent future outbreaks. Peter doc he's the President of the US based nonprofit ego health alliance and he says that even if bats are the likely origin they are not to blame. It's no but's it's uh it's it's and what we do to Bass that drives this. Pandemic risks like wildlife trade and Food and agriculture practices or are close proximity to animals in densely populated areas one of the poster things about funding that. We're actually behind. These pandemics is that gives those the power to do something about it. We don't need to get rid about. We don't need to do anything with that. We've just got to leave them alone. Let me get on doing the good. They do flipping around at night
COVID-19, Chinas wet markets, and bats - is it US not THEM?
"And now we see Larry's outbreaks in the last few decades that are related to animal eating in China. What happens in China? What people do to animals in China how repercussion beyond Chinese border? Let's Professor Deborah Jar. She's author of animals in China Law and society and we're going to take a close look at the animals that find themselves in China's wet markets today and into the curious origins of this Almighty pandemic. I have to side. It's beyond anything that I could have imagined. It really is at bats. Worst CASE SCENARIO SCOTT AS FAR as I'm concerned and that's from someone who's worked in the area and someone is trying to increase the awareness that this kind of thing would happen. It seems to have happened so rapidly and we seem to have been totally unprepared for it. She infield he's with the echo health alliance as their science and Policy Advisor for China and Southeast Asia regions eventually and environmental scientist. Hey knows he's infectious diseases. And he's Bet Corona viruses. He's an international authority on them which is why he is quick to discredit conspiracy theories swirling around about the origins of the SARS Cov virus. That's caused this cove. Nineteen pandemic one being that it came from the Wuhan Institute Veraldi Attain Hayes. Worked closely alongside. There was a big a lot of discussion about conspiracy theories either about manufacturing losses biowarfare about escapes from large raise. Excetera truth is trying to fiction. We we don't need to manufacture this far as it exists in Niger. As is from my scientific point of view that argument that it's manufactured bars has been tightly discredited winsor Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome first appeared in two thousand and two in China human was part of the international team. That did that hard. Detective work the years to trace its origin back to a corona virus in beds and the team's been surveying and identifying Bet Corona viruses across China saints. The size called to virus is ninety. Six percents SIMILAC genetically to about corruption virus working with Salads and with colleagues in China. I had the opportunity to see how intelligent how how technically skilled however principled. My colleagues in China were Humza signatory to erase it later. In The Lancet Medical Journal expressing solidarity with China's scientists and concern that conspiracy theories are threatening the rapid open and transparent sharing of data on the covered nineteen at break on people. Say yes but it's Johnny's system which autocratic I can be my to do it etc I nine principles about fats. Those people in that lab at on. We'll be working flat out around. The clock does manual. It comes with his ours. You know you've got to start from scratch stopped from nearest point of knowledge songs develop diagnostics tried to treatment methodologies. That'll be working flat out getting pulled in every direction. Trying to get on top of this thing. That's ahead stop. But where the virus got. It's real headstart. Perhaps OVER MILLENNIA. Ease in bats and scientists have benches with bats have taken him all over the place. All over Italy David Heymann is professor of Infectious Disease Ecology at Massey University in New Zealand. And Yeah some people selling hundreds of back carcasses who to Yeah people wearing Jin as a libation. A bill offering to the bats in a cave. And there's no doubt about it is that's the galling but what I want to know is why beds in particular how the so many viruses that are so deadly to us and yet not to them and to do that. We need to get denied. That's a bit better which Mike Up About. A fifth of the world's Mammalian species the phenomenal mammals. Actually they're the only mammals that truly fly the evolutionary. Oh they've been around many tens of millions of years from fossil records. Basically they live live everywhere on earth really apartment article so that enthused New Zealand out here Hawaii three to take so they're very well adapted the lots of different spaces and the really good for the environment. So for example predation pests. They prevent crop and forest damage. Because I eating insect predators suck the hugely ecologically important. Certainly the the fruit eating bats are great seat disperses Italy to see elite fruit the C. Pass through the bat schedule intestinal system and then it puts it out in a new location. So that helps maintain I. They also pollinate Important crops because revolved for so long. There are many plants for example rely on best to do the pollination and all the seed dispersal for them. David Hyman Ward. Mike's bats such a distinct. Such prime reservoir for novel viruses that can then subsequently crossover and infect other animals than they known to humans. What is it about the laugh of bets and better species so there are many hypotheses one is just the sheer diversity of bats around the world so therefore they have a diverse range of ours is and we think that they've been around for a long time cheaply long lived species relatively speaking and I will live for years and tens of years. Not like rodents that live within a year. They're gone. They will like humans in cities. I mean they form very dense colonies with thousands in a small space so that's ideal for infection spill to transmit from one individual to another Peter Virus Heaven and what's more abet colony might contain multiple bat species so viruses can adapt and crossover between them. He catching a ride when the bats migrate onwards so then they concede infection into new columnist. These multiple networks and communities about spending vast lots of different viruses between them probably lead to them being great host for these viruses. You look at the things I well I if Laras then this is way are would do well it. All of this going from built the interaction. The numbers I felt the citizens either Tom etc etc and the range of viruses bets carry all that originated in bats is mind blowing. Yeah there's extra diversity and it's not just trying of ours. Is that seems to be the same for paramedics of our season. Rabies probably had bats and even things like measles and canine distemper virus. Which we now and paper will be familiar with. Lissa viruses herpes to ebola influenza. A Hendra Nipah that most viruses. That bets incubate don't seem to make bets seek rabies. Seems to be one of the notable exceptions. Why don't they get seek? You didn't quite a really hard to study some of the hypotheses of that because bats have evolved to repair the muscles for example that the tissues that damage during his flight is really intensive. They vote repair. Mechanisms enable them to repair cells for example and versus damaged cells and. There's lots of consequences to that. That doesn't tell the entire story. They ran the immune system. That means that they. They seem to have constant arts they. Immune system switched on during the dice and also they. They fly everyday that I get the core body. Temperatures are effectively. What we do if we're sick and feverish so if you can imagine that we as mammals we have to similar response when rail one hypothesis is that when we do our normal response to viral infections. Then actually these viruses evolved in that sort of environment. And they don't mind so they carry on replicating the things that we do to suppress viruses don't suppress the bat farces. But that's just one. Hypothyroidism is a few others clever little biological systems in a molecular clock analysis that said that Corona viruses and bats had been coexisting for at least ten thousand news probably hundreds of thousands of years and possibly millions of years so these are very robust and sort of long term. Evolution are of these farces within spats and the issue is not about changing to become infectious. Hatha generate to patriots getting from bad to the purse on Wallis taking him. Bats doing their own thing. There's no pro-woman's each bridge what we call an epidemiological bridge wants that bridges. Creator so the agent can get from the reservoir to the purse. So you pay. That's when the trouble starts and there is a perfect place for that Epidemiological Bridge to be built.
The Medical World Of The Flu Epidemic of 1918
"We start though we should talk a little bit about what the world of medicine and what public health were like in nineteen eighteen. So in many parts of the world nations hadn't really standardized or regulated what was required for persons who call themselves a doctor so people practice medicine with all kinds of different credentials or with no credentials and patent medicines. Which really didn't have any medical value and were mostly alcohol and laudanum. Most of the time. We're still pretty prevalent. There was a lot of stuff floating around that was just not legitimate for treating anything and at this point. Alexander Fleming had not yet discovered penicillin. That was still a decade away in its use as a drug was even further out than land so penicillin wouldn't have helped the flu since influenza is a virus and penicillin kills bacteria but it might have helped some of the people who wound up with bacterial pneumonia after contracting the flu. And this is more just to sort of point out a milestone of where we were in medicine when this flu epidemic was happening. Yep So in spite of some of these things that we think of as basics today like requiring people to be trained to call themselves doctors and antibiotics and things like that things had really advanced a lot in the world of medicine over the past century before the epidemic started most parts of the industrialized world at this point had understood and accepted the germ theory of disease. So at this point pretty much everyone was on the same page in most places that germs cause disease and doctors had also figured out exactly which germs caused a number of diseases including Turkey losses. Malaria and cholera the idea of a reportable disease or one. So dangerous that all cases of it needed to be reported to government authorities also existed but even though there had been another serious flu epidemic a couple of decades before influenza wasn't really reportable in most places until this particular epidemic had gotten dyer and at that point it was too late for warning the government to do really any good. Yeah what they already knew. There was a big problem by the time people were able to start saying. Hey there is a big problem. Vaccines also existed. There was a vaccine for smallpox. There is a vaccine for rabies vaccines. Were also in the works and people really thought as the as the epidemic going a vaccine for the flu was just around the corner as we talked about in the encephalitis lethargic episode. Though figuring out how to make a vaccine for a disease when you don't know what's causing the disease is really hard and not only. The doctors not know what was causing the flu. They also had it pinned on a completely different germ. They thought it had a totally different. 'cause than it really did. Have so at the start of the epidemic the purported culprit for the flu was a bacterium that had been named Pfeiffer SPEC syllabus after its discoverer who was a German scientist named Robert Friedrich Pfeiffer and he made the connection between his back Sylla's and the flu but he hadn't really proved this connection and as the epidemic wore on it became abundantly clear that pfeiffer was wrong the back Sylla's he discovered was not present insect patient's and deliberately exposing people to it didn't give them the flu so even though an international team was dedicated to trying to create a vaccine none of their work proved effective and it I They were after the wrong germ and then they didn't have a good starting point. So all of this together combines to mean that when the flu turn really deadly in nineteen eighteen. There was not much that legitimate doctors could do for their patients besides to keep them in bed and keep them as sped hydrated and comfortable as possible the most most of the things that have any efficacy at all where about prevention which basically involved keeping the sick people quarantined and trying to educate people about how to keep themselves from being exposed and doctors knew that the flu has spread by coughing and sneezing so they gave the common sense advice about covering your nose and mouth and staying away from people who were coughing and sneezing. Oh and also telling people not to spit on the ground. So don't spit on the ground. Please you know their debates over whether that's a civil way to behave in general but Sick people don't know spitting it's gross and spreads illness so they're also a lot of public health campaigns that we're trying to get people who were sick to stay at home which probably sounds kind of familiar to win. There's a big flu outbreak today. They especially. We're trying to educate people who were sick to get them to stay away from crowds and businesses. Got It on the deal to try and to warn people who were ill to go home so assigned at one theater in Chicago. Red Influenza frequently complicated with pneumonia is prevalent at this time throughout America. This theater is cooperating with the Department of Health. You must do the same if you have a cold and are coughing and sneezing. Do not enter this theater and then in all capital letters go home and go to bed until you are well. That seems wise. Not all of the advice on prevention with sound though many people in public health recommended that people wear masks and some places even required that mask be worn by law. But this was in fact not effective. Your masks are kind of effective when there's bacteria involved but when it's a virus the viruses are just too
Non-Animal Origin cell culture supplements and manufacturing aids for biologics manufacturing
"I wanted to start today by asking if you could give us. A definition of non animal origin. Is there an industry wide understanding the term? I would love to give you a definition for animal origin or industry-wide definition off for animal origin. Free or known anyone origin unfortunately there is no industry wide definition and there is no useful or clear definition provided by the regulators typically provide you a definition for animal origin but not for non any minority with that in mind what are the distinctions between primary secondary and tertiary levels for Armando origin so the the temps primarily they're attached level non anymore origin or animal origin. Tree these terms are used to what people try to distinguish how far away they believe. The actual origin is for instance primary non. Anyone origin will mean is something which is not directly derived from animal. Secondary on animal origin would be used when you want to say okay. Here's something for instance. Last Produce Feminization and feminization media did not contain any animal arch material for instance recumbent insulin produced by bacteria. And if I may use the recombinant insulin as an example for tets sherry animal or if that could be used when you want to say okay he is pro insulin which needs became instantly and by an enzyme and this enzyme that I'm using. He's a anymore origin and be Also is not coming out of temptation. Which had an arched material in these times are not Foley defined? So if you read about these terms you want to make sure that you really understand what the author or the user actually wants to tell you. Thank you for that. That's helpful as a basis for discussion. I was hoping you could also clarify advice for for listeners. Why is animal origins? Should be concerned in the cell culture. Realm let me start with. Why animal origin a concern animal? Origin IS CONCERNED. Tubular. Typically from sound are adventitious agents coming with that any material. Dr However other concerns for instance dicap- Religious concerns allow kosher concerns around the origin. That could be lifestyle concerns shifting but we can waive LS cheese our topic. However these could also allergies. Are ause topic for France's planter. I've proteins but they major issue are adventitious agents which could be so Nautica so they could cross the species barrier from the animal to the human to the patient and cause disease that patient These competitions agents might viruses for instance SARS rabies virus that? I'm known to cross the species barrier or a protein based agents like the the priority causing tse pse other concerns are related to the supply situation. So getting anymore origin raw material. Importing that into your country could be associated with restrictions likewise she ever media produced which contains enormity died might also be import-restricted into the country. Where your customer sitting with the got to the Cell Culture? There is an another concern. And that is these the cells the MAMMALIAN cell Kashem might be susceptible to such viruses. And if you are robbing a off you wished you're on a buyer actor unachieved conditions. You need to tightly control your by rector and a virus might have a whatsoever effect to yourself. Kasha and from that point on your cell culture would not be regarded as GNP compliant. We talked a little bit about the fact that there isn't a regular trade definition of non animal origin. But I'm hoping that you could share with us. What the regulatory view on animal origin components is the regulatory few on Non Amit components is of course that this is the preferred situation It's regulatory person you would like to avoid any more mature whenever possible or you would expect that any moment you to comply with all the patent interrelations with the gods to non anymore materials and there's a regulatory person. I feel that as much as I appreciate it. I always see cautious because I don't want to any wishful thinking and due. Diligence is always required. Aren't those non animal materials? Don't get blindfolded around the documentation. You truly want to understand why this material is known in Mauritian so keep your eyes open. Keep Your Mind. Open work with the suppliers as closely as possible to truly understand when they talking about non animal origin. Is that exactly what you want to half what you think? Non Animal origin is to avoid any begrudge. Any confusion and at the end may terms disappointment. I also feel like it was worthwhile when you're auditing Uranus to question the the animal for non GMO origin situation and to make sure that you're suppliers are in fact producing S. You wish them to that makes a Lotta sense and I wanted to switch gears a little bit here and ask you work if you could talk about which products in your portfolio or non animal origin and also how much insight you have into. The manufacturing process of the supplements might be started out as being composed of animal origin. caused in the old days. A lot of people just Sourced components from produce them from Sarah. In the meantime. I have as a new wave. The recumbent supplements which Humira he formerly Serem source erm contributed. Mansell so for instance. We asked the using feasible when Sarah more in the hemisphere we have At are commonly such as transferring or at Newman or growth factors to just a few incident on all three and also on the on the side of the manufacturing agents in the days feeding relies for instance on core sonnen tricks. In the meantime we have a complete fool of which we friend Aries greats manufacturing AIDS is something that is typically subsidized on the supplements but it's really Orissa. Supplement manufacturing process ends on the collection of this recumbent. Enzymes is labeled as said prime recumbent supplements and everything in my portfolio. It's Dunston said prime. 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Opening Act - Rumors in Rock
"First false rumor. Did you ever hear the rumor about Keith? Moon driving a Rolls Royce into a hotel pool. I've heard a lot of stories about Keith. Moon well. He is the quintessential rock and roll guy and bad boy he definitely collected Nazi memorabilia. He may have bitten. Steve McQueen's Hog and blew up his drums win. The WHO played on the smothers brothers. Comedy Hour. I cannot wait to do his episode I am. I have like four books based on. Keith Moon I am. I am locked and loaded. I Love Keith. He is my soul. Well so those things may be true however there was a rumor that he drove a Rolls Royce into a pool at the Holiday Inn in Flint Michigan on his twenty. First Birthday. This is not true. According to Pete Townsend. The story is actually a combination of two different stories. That has become one not true rumor. So Keith Moon. In one of the stories like one of the incidents he left the Hamburg off of a car and it rolled into a pool which was under construction and to not have any water in hit home. Which would be worse though driving? Dr Into a pool with water or driving a car into a pool without water but he didn't drive the car into that. I'm just like either one either or I'm just saying like it just rolled in on its own. Which would do more damage I think you're pretty much screwed either way fair enough. The cars a loss of it goes near the pool. Yeah Okay and then so the second story that this was combined with to create the not true drove. Rolls Royce. Into a pool was that he charged new car to the band. Who refuse to pay for it. So Moon drove it into a muddy pond in his garden and call the dealer to come pick it up. So it's too true. Stories rolled into one story right. That's not true. Yeah Oh yeah. It's incredible and that's not our last Keith. Moon rumor either. Nope our next one which is true now okay. I should say with the caveat that these are true and false based on articles that we both read and so there might be room for error. So this is just like fun. Yeah it's just fun and it's inauguration. It's yeah just what we found. No one has photographic evidence. It's just fun fun so I hope you guys out. Don't get angry and you're like that never happened or that did happen bub-bubba so like don't don't get mad at us is just this is just meant to be fun and a little bit looser so and just for us to kind of talk off the cuff so Our next one. Which is true. Is All about Ozzy Osbourne. Oh my so ozzy. Osbourne achieved infamy overnight after incident on January twentieth nineteen eighty two in Des Moines Iowa during the height of his drug problem. That is putting it mildly. Ozzy Osbourne was performing when an audience member through a bat on stage. The singer believing that it was rubber and I do believe that he thought it was robbery. I don't think he would have. I believe that too. Yeah bid off its head as a stunt only to find out that the bat was real and alive not only that but as he declares in liner notes to the two thousand two reissue of diary of a madman. The Bat wound up biting him as well which forced him to be treated for rabies. The incident fed his rock madman legend along with the one time that he bit off the head of a dove which basically what happened was when he first met with Columbia records in Nineteen ninety-one. He took a live dub into the meeting with him and bit off the head in front of the horrified executives. Awful yeah so crazy man out. I wouldn't sign him to a record deal yeah. He was also arrested for urinating on. Or near the Alamo. And while on tour with Motley crue he allegedly got into a one upmanship. Dare contest with Nikki. Nikki six and I'm sorry that is at is a contest. I would never even get close to know but he ended up snorting a line of ants better than biting the heads off live animals. I think though no okay. The dove thing is kind of unforgivable. The bad thing is understandable. But you snorted a line of ants would if they were fire ants also. You just have ants in your sinuses now. I'm sad I read that. Oh my God you have to elaborate immediately regretted it I apologize. You should move on move on Thanksgiving on next all right. Here's a good one Kay cass. Elliot choke to death on a ham sandwich. Can We bury this now? Please yeah really not cool. I don't like this lie at all. This rumors terrible are you. Doing Mama Cass. Yes I am all right so this came up. Following a series of sold out gigs. In London Mama Cass retired to her apartment where she died of heart failure on July. Twenty Ninth Nineteen Seventy Four. A rumor spread very quickly that she died from choking on a ham sandwich which is just a horrible thing to say you know yes. She was a little overweight route. So it's believed that the rumor started when Dr Anthony. Greenberg the physician who I examined CASS. After her death wrote she appeared to have been eating a ham sandwich and drinking coca cola while lying down a very dangerous thing to do. She seemed to have choked on her ham sandwich. So so great job Dr Greenberg for that one. But point of fact her autopsy showed that a heart problem leading to heart. Failure was the cause of death not a sandwich or any other item lodged in her throat or trachea. She had actually had very little to eat the day before she died like her stomach was pretty clear. No dead I'm actually going to piggyback and double down on a Mama Cass and Keith Moon. True story with us. They were not but they did die in the same apartment. Yeah rockstars have been taken from US. Way Too young and it just so happens that two brilliant musicians died in the same apartment at the same age of thirty two Singer Harry Nilsson I love. That's my alarm. Every morning I wake up to his song. GotTa get out okay. If you've seen the show Russian dolls you'll know why I wake up to a song every day but He renounced his London flat to friends when he was traveling. And so on June twenty ninth nineteen seventy four Mama Cass of the Mamas. And the Papas was staying in the flat while she was on tour and died of heart failure in her sleep and on September seventh. Nineteen seventy eight Keith. Moon of the WHO overdosed on a sedative in that very same apartment which is eerie because they died in the same apartment under the same landlord at the same age. How crazy is that? That's a little
Chicago: Vinny The Pit Bull Found Alive, Trapped In Trash Bags In Willow Springs
"The cook county animal and rabies control warden says they received a call Monday about a dog found in a trash bag you're forced Avenue in eighty seven straight male people was dumped in double bag trash bags dog was said to be dehydrated it's undergoing treatment at the south suburban Humane Society staff there has named him Vinnie they say he's extremely underweight and frightened and unit information is urged to call the cook county sheriff's police special
Groundhog Day in the United States: More winter or early spring?
"It is groundhog day everybody's waiting for said Nyland shock and his furry little friends to issue their forecasts if the fuzz balls easy shadow it's six more weeks of winter if not bring on the early spring of laws you will not be going to Staten Island today with memory still raw from this little incident in twenty fourteen that's gloves and then there's gloves these these are gloves his owner survived but Chuck didn't the mayor told the Daily News he's never going back because he tried it and it didn't end well council speaker Cory Johnson doing the honors today now set an island of course is not the only place to go for a road and weather forecast the turtle bags in West Orange is welcoming fans for a weather in Superbowl prediction from Essex said that of course their sponsor tadi Phil incident by many in and out of western Pennsylvania to be the one true groundhog the guys in top that's a yeah I get him out of burrow again this morning in waiving him around for the not even a little impaired crowd of people for the ethical treatment of animals is not a fan of all of that and they suggested the groundhog club try a an animatronic rodent that went over about as well as the year the game warden wanted to do a rabies test because Phil bit somebody
Father strangles coyote who attacked child
"Are dead coyote is being tested for rabies after a New Hampshire man choked to death to protect his child Kensington New Hampshire police say the coyote went after a child Monday but the father intervene killing it with his bare hands police say earlier in the day the coyote also attacked the car and got into an enclosed area by opening a sliding door woman inside was a bit and received a rabies booster
NH Father Kills Coyote With Bare Hands After Attacks In 2 Towns
"And police in Kensington New Hampshire say I may man killed a coyote with his bare hands yesterday after it attacked his kid earlier in the day a woman and one for dogs were bit by the coyote she was hospitalized for rabies shots and treatment in two hours later the coyote went after a father and son on a hiking trail in Exeter and the man reportedly suffocated the creature to death New Hampshire officials say the animal is being tested for
NH Father Kills Coyote With Bare Hands After Attacks In 2 Towns
"Police in Kensington New Hampshire say a man killed a coyote with his bare hands today after it attacked him in this kid earlier in the day a woman and one of her dogs were bit by the coyote she was hospitalized for rabies shots in treatment then two hours later the coyote went after a father and son on a hiking trail in Exeter the man reportedly suffocated the creature to death New Hampshire officials say the animal is being tested for
Puppy at Texas animal shelter tests positive for rabies
"A puppy a north Dallas at a North Texas animal shelter rather test positive for rabies a six month old puppy was found to be infected at the E. RAF county Humane Society and Stephen bill the department of state health services says that anyone who interacted with the dogs should be tested the tan and white lab mix was house from January three through fifteen official stated that rabies is spread through the saliva of infected animals in anyone bitten or scratched by the dog or had contact between it's alive and an open wound to the eyes nose or mouth should be evaluated rabies can be preventative treatment starts before symptoms begin but after symptoms start the disease is almost always
"rabies" Discussed on Pet Life Radio
"To rabies and having the knowledge that bats are incredibly valuable to our ecosystems they eat tons of insects and mosquitoes that also can carry disease so we don't want to hurt bad but we do want to be aware that they can carry rabies so that's right there at the intersection of human health and animal health and environmental health another example is a vector borne disease known as Bartonella so some of your viewers your listeners might be familiar with Bartonella because they might have heard that it's what causes cat scratch fever and some others who might be history buffs may realize that it's your news on that on was recognized as causing trench feeder in World War one well it turns out it's so it's very very commonly found in cats but it's not the cat's fault it's being impacted by fleas and a lot other insects that actually found this organism and many many species and it can be vectored vectored meaning it can be carried in transmitted from animal to human and back and forth by not only fleas ticks and biting lies that trench fever they think was probably from lice from the people being in the trenches until the conditions so Bartonella has now recently emerged as a much more significant pathogen in human beings than we ever thought most physicians these days are taught that Bartonella is self limiting it's no big deal will go away and you might cost was swollen lymph nodes and they might call it cat scratch fever but we have learned over the past few years that it can actually behave a whole lot like the organism that causes Lyme disease Karelia the gore fry on it can actually climb inside our sales and hide from our immune systems in Camden cause all sorts of problems ranging from degenerative arthritis to neurologic degenerative syndromes to digestive issues and granulomatous lesions that can look like cancers and the some of this information has been emerging over the past ten or fifteen years out of the veterinary sector as they realized that this organism what's actually invading people and they've actually been working actor and rights were here at North Carolina State University has been working for years to bring this awareness to the human medical feel thank you know so many people have cats and they some of these cats have fleas and it's not that the cat necessarily gives Bartonella to the people but if there ARE fleas in the environment and people get scratched or even bitten by their cat in its leader gets under that scratch they can get part non out not every cat carries it but it happens often enough that I'm suspecting that there are thousands of people walking around infected with this organism and they're even having joint replacements where they have this organism and nobody knows it and they just think they've got degenerative arthritis so there's another major example of things that are being shared and were having so much difficulty getting the information across the sectors just because of our silence I've got other examples you want me keep going or shall I start no I want you to keep going because I think this is important and right now I know being in southern California people come in with their pets and one of the very common questions I ask is what type of preventive do they have their pets on so that's an indoor cats usually nothing and they don't want to vaccinate for rabies and I'm not seen fleas and I don't want to do anything well we've had the situation here in Laguna beach so this wonderful nice clean community where is about two years ago here's this little Kitty minding its own business indoors and all of a sudden it's like while this bird flew in and it's not even flying all that well I can get it and play with it well the bird happen to be a fact and the back happened to have rabies and the cat wasn't vaccinated so I will use that example the state all cats all dogs need to be vaccinated for rabies because their bite I get paper cuts that are bigger than a back right and if you're keeping your dog you with all that for you're not going to now and then with regard to fleas fleas are basically more year round pericytes I tell people the atomic bomb will come and go we're gonna be left with fleas cockroaches rats and politicians keeping those fleas under control because when you see your free finally on the Pat that's the tip of the iceberg there in the environment and the cocoon stage that's one it's basically impervious so keeping up on good hygiene good preventive that is going to make your head healthier and you healthier okay so doctor Stroud what are some other examples why people need to be so careful of these one health approach of our pets affecting our health and vice versa well I'll mention just briefly wonder some of your listeners may already be aware of salmonella and pet turtles and in pet chickens because so many people have chickens in their backyards now on so they just need to be aware about cleanliness and hand washing and then there was the monkey pox situation some years back where pocket pets were brought into the country perhaps illegally because there is a black market for pocket pants and a lot of exotics and these people may not be familiar with hats are hamsters and mice and durables and your little furry creatures and a lot of your pocket yeah and a lot of them are imported and some not necessarily always legally so that so there's not you know any regulation in place is making sure that they're coming and healthy well on the monkey pox story these I think they were rats I forget think they were I can't remember their giant rats but they were gonna address yes indeed rants or something like that since you're actually they came into the country and went to pet stores and people bought them and then people started noticing these little pox like lesions on their hands and yes CDC had to get involved to figure out okay where is this coming from it and you know stop the sale and educate the people about it so it's just again an example of how closely connected we are and how things can sometimes be way beyond our control are outsiders scope even of awareness another example our pets can be sentinels of the environment that we're sharing with them we live in the same environment with our cats and dogs sometimes they sleep in our beds our cats and dogs may go outside and go into areas for their tics and fleas and then come in and get on the dance with us and and actually you bring this ticks and fleas and to us with all the diseases that can be brought in can can come to us through ticks and fleas things like rocky mountain spotted fever and early kia and and the bees and all these active or diseases which most of us don't want anything to do it and sometimes if we got our doctor our doctors may not be very up on asking us the right questions to get to the diagnosis I mean my own husband and I had a situation where in his travels he picked up Sir copies and we both struggled with four copies which is it's a mange might your your listeners will know it as a mange might that their dogs might get and our dermatologist was not familiar with the presentation and it literally took us weeks finally I got frustrated because I said you know I really I'm a veterinarian I deal with this all the time in animals please please please will you treat as far as our copies finally we you know we were able to get the diagnosis and you get a treatment under way but many people would not have had that knowledge base another example is I don't know if you guys followed the story of the poly brominated doctrinal either's TV DVDs and her floral Eckel substances they are flame retardants and on this is a really eye opening the story to me because I kinda live again I came out of energy school in nineteen eighty one I was not taught anything about hyperthyroid cats cats and head over active thyroid but in the eighties still the mid to late eighties we later realise the association these flame retardants were introduced into our environment so close an upholstery isn't hard plastics like computer services in television services and these PVD is what out gas into the dust particles and our cats love to sit around on the surface is right now and get articles on them and they grew themselves that's what camp to do right and so they would get high levels of these PVD ease and it turns out their major and you can destructors when we're putting these things and children's pajamas and so when some people at EPA realize the association here and did some research they found yeah it was a very high correlation from when those things came into our environment and when we started as veterinarians recognizing hyperthyroid cats and very interestingly researcher at Duke University look for these PVD ease and the blood of infants and small children and she found them it's even been postulated now because they're such profound indicando structures which means they can mess our hormones upright that's our thyroid hormones and all sorts of hormones it's been postulated that that could be an underlying environmental contributor to our obesity epidemic especially in children fast so it's just fascinating all the interconnections and our lack of home of forum a mechanism a way for us to share this knowledge and to bring it to the forefront across professions and that's what this whole one health conversation is all about I could go on for hours one of the things they find again so frustrating you'd mentioned CDC that sadly even an anything CDC is the protector of our health and that is the final word you know think of a medical issue the ball is coming to United States CDC is you're right there on the forefront you're protecting us and it was back in I believe in ninety six in New York where they have all these people coming down with what they thought was the flu all these crows that were dying and then hope Frank's doctor McNamara veterinarian pathologist at the Bronx zoo we saw that several of the animals in her exhibits birds were dying and looked and thought that it was a disease she had never seen the United States but it was west Nile and brought this to the attention of CD CDS CDC basically said you're really sweet honey your veterinarian you don't know anything about human health please go away the long and short she brought it to the army's attention because the connections that she knew they brought it to CDC and it was west Nile so yes we do need to terminate wires and on the first of each other it was the first time that it had been seen and in the Americas and so the critical thing was that Tracy news gotta McNamara knew that if they eat the CDC the human docks thought that this was eastern encephalitis and they said you know we got this this is this is what this is and she knew that if it were eastern encephalitis that the flamingos in the zoo's should be dying and they weren't so she can **** this is got to be something else and that is a fabulous example of the kind of the the brick walls we can run into sometimes so we try to share information and things have gotten better but I promise you we still have a long way to go so what can my listeners do we have a few minutes left welcome my listeners to to help promote awareness what can you do to protect themselves educate yourself so the one health commission is the organization that I work for is just one of a number of organizations and that we partnered with the one help platform in the one health initiative groups to create a global one helps day and please the search ending and go and look at it because you can actually see where this is in being at the some concept is being embraced all around the world by the pins on the map around the world where people are doing one hell day events so the one health commission we work to educate people and we do webinars one thing that your pet owner audience might be interested in is right now the commission is partnered with EPA and doing a national pet health survey so if you go on one health commission dot org web.
"rabies" Discussed on The Complete Guide to Everything
"Me yeah doc a only go we don't think you'll get it i get it i don't know if you don't think you're gonna get a disease i dunno they have the rabies these vaccine for adults they've got like a few different vaccines fran animals that they're like yeah we're not gonna give these the people that not adults people give kids rabies vaccines cause they like the mix it up with animals morning 'em were we talking about franco i think the side in the in the win at some point that's gonna come back and they're gonna be like the hinson extended universe right 'em but i'm up at family christmas smith's tom a hermit who is reportedly a frog right it kermit the frog is twenty times bigger than any frog i've seen yeah it's true and he's mixing up what frag goes in frankel is bigger than him in some cases yeah but what about when the when the frag goals come out a the whole time docs house they're they're so small they're not doc they're about as big as a beam bunny who either later addition to the muppet oh yeah i know that bonnie if you ever some other division three d at a at disney's hollywood studios agron hannan is it cannon yeah it was jim henson's final now muppet film well but just is nearest doesn't mean any wrist and dear to his heart and how did they get him ryan miller aligned technologies a yeah is a there is there is is the first computer animated character in anything i think basket but i think that might be true no why not make him like they were computer animated you know i i made something in a microsoft paint by no no in in the market if you're a game up their search it and she literally anywhere 'em yeah he keeps he liked technology and so he's like three d hell yeah like a computer animated characters man yeah i'm in and then these these muppets that i've been telling everybody about feverish really telling everybody actually exist yeah there'll be there to to do a hijacked this episode about spiderman start talking about the muppet i dunno but we should continue down this road no we were gonna talk about spiderman a so you're upset that that a using marvel movies they're gonna take over everything forever but let me oh no no i don't and i think at some point like with the the star wars movies have they they cancelled those other star wars movies that were in the episodes right a dating cancel them but things that were not announced but rumored to be in the works never got and now it's an end disney specifically said like hey we're gonna pull back were gonna start doing yeah two years i can't wait till they had to pull back on all the franchises that they spent a lot of money on and then it's like hey hey what if spiderman with the new millennium falcon watching the the fan jubilation at first like this is gonna be great and then the the rabid disappointment turned into just vitry all that will come when they actually see this monstrosity hot this didn't happen exactly the way the picture.
"rabies" Discussed on 1170 The Answer
"Rabies like them all. Craig? Stupid. The raccoon on the table. Table. Not leaving now. Raccoon into McDonalds. Crazy. You. San Francisco come getting some knee before we go to work. He'd wrong. Here. And it went on for another four minutes and the raccoon the entire time. Never moved. Now, this San Diego news channel says that CNN it's a CBS outfit. CNN the FOX outfit. Local Fox News. I think FOX or CBS check it out. Anyway, with local news channel says that CNN contact with them to find out whether or not the border walls and border fencing works in their area. And these two newscaster said, yeah, we told them that it that it does work, and they said CNN after that they weren't interested in what they had to say as inside of the times in this debate on the shutdown CNN as if k US I would provide a reporter to offer our local view of the debate. Especially the learn the wall works in San Diego. Hey US. I offered our own Dan plan who's reported many times that the wall is not an issue here. I in fact, most this officials believe it is if active issue we face is the migrants on the debate over their treatments. Now, knowing this CNN declined to have us on their programs, which often present the wall as not required and other places like the stretch of Texas for the president visited earlier today. They didn't like what they heard from us. Just some background. For you. It's K U S I. It's McKinnon broadcasting company. Now, the argument that the people who oppose the war or making aside from that. The wall itself is an immorality is that. They just don't work here is retired ice agent. Avalon? Here's what he says. Well, all Tucker to say, this is personal. I've worked in Mexico. I worked on the border. I'm born and raised there. I was attacked and lost his life agents about the right next to me while we were an assignment in Mexico. So I know that this is real and the crisis Israel, and the border wall is very much needed. This is a physical barrier. That's going to help our border agents down there help them. Just I got the other technology would help them the drones the fencers all the other. Technology that comes along the border, the border wall is just another tool that's going to help them do that. And it's much needed. So they could then focus on those areas where that traffic is going to be infiltrated through now. Speaking of NPR, there's another NPR outfit in New York. There's a park has hosted by a guy named Mark Michael Barbaro, he interviewed Arizona's sheriff Napier of Hemmer county Arizona about whether or not there is a crisis on the border Pima county. Thank you. And this sheriff said that there's been a crisis on the border for the entire thirty one year. I've worked for the sheriff's department. So you said that you appreciated the president using the word crisis on Tuesday night in his primetime speech. So you think that he's right that there is at this moment of crisis at the border, Michael. Yes, it's not President Trump's crisis or this administration's crisis. This has been a crisis the entire thirty one years I've been in this valley. My deputies told you in the past recover over one hundred bodies. A year in a desert semi county. And we've been doing this for decades. So it is a public safety crisis. Not only from drug trafficking human trafficking victims of of migrants at the hands of bandits coyotes is also a public safety issue. And there is an underlying national security concern here more cocaine is coming into this country. We're having overdoses every day, and that's not the president being dramatic. That's happening community. I I know this is true. It used to be if you got two ounces of heroin or two ounces about that phetamine that was considered a big Boston. My part of the world that was a big deal this past week. My deputies confiscated ten pounds of methamphetamine Ugo back fifteen years ago that would have been on thought of it. We couldn't even imagine that now Michael bills drugs are not being cooked in my county. We know they're coming from the border. And the other thing is that we know that the large portion of that amount of methamphetamine is not going to be consumed in. By county. It's going elsewhere. It's going all over the nation. So it's an evolving problem. It's a very complex problem. But it is. In fact, crisis is interesting thing about this because there is a significant debate. And again, this is an NPR host about whether or not this represents a crisis, and in your mind that doesn't seem to be any ambiguity. There is not an easy to have a debate and a back to you right bread. But if you can have a debate in New York City, it's hard for me to have a debate. When I read the resumes created by my deputies say we recovered another body in the desert. We went to another overdose. We heard that another woman had been sexually assaulted on her way up from the border. So this stuff is stuff that I live every day. So while it may be an interesting political argument in other parts of the country. It's not political argument where I live. Now about Trump's assertion that Democrats at one time supported the kinds of barrier fencing and walls and protections. He wants back in two thousand six Barbara Boxer essentially has admitted this this is what she says, the former Senator from California, I could say there's so much hate in people's hearts. And when you hear someone say that like that congressman? Does hurting people gratuitously and it all comes from the top. It comes from Donald Trump who has anger and hate all over himself. And here's the thing. Chris you and I go way back to when you worked for Toco, Neil. I don't I hasten to say that was in the eighties. Then this is one budget item. Okay. A wall out of tens of thousands of budget, items and the way to fix it. First of all spend, the money you already have to build a barrier. I am sure speaker Pelosi we'll tell you in the house when you put forward your new budget, which is coming due soon. Let us know why you think the wall is the best thing to do. The fact of the matter is I voted for the secure fence act way back in six that was a time when it made sense to build the barriers, but now we have new technologies so here she is admitting she voted for what Trump wants. But now we have new technologies she's acknowledging voted for it. But but now we have we have we have new technologies.
"rabies" Discussed on Bad Science
"Yeah. I mean, what I was just thinking what kind of animals get Brady's besides because we dogs get rabies. They can bite us. We can get rabies was like is it spread through other species? It is spread species species in some instances bats have rabies, and they can pass them onto to humans that's called a zoonotic disease. It goes from animal to to human. There's rabies and rabies is specific force Pacific coast. So there's there's a dog rabies and a cat rabies. Okay. Most rat rabies and recruit rabies FOX rabies hell's wrong with these rabies. Well, this is the neat thing about rabies is in there's a bunch of different viruses, all different species of rabies and their specific for specific hosts. Okay. And they have changes in those specific hosts favor the movement of rabies from say one most to another mouse. It's not because that most gets incredibly Gress of. Live is because that most gets really curious moves around a lot. Yeah. And the rabies that spreads around through Kanaan's through dogs normally something like a FOX is pretty cautious Arabia's infected. Fox's not cautious. Great photographs of these Arctic FOX that are infected with rabies hanging out with dogs in a kennel, which they would normally not do. But they're passing on the the candidates interesting. When I think of rabies, I think of almost like what I know from cartoons, essentially, I think of like a frothing mouth is that accurate. Yeah. That's for some species of rabies began you get that aggressive behavior the threat froth in most because rabies infecting the salivary glands. Okay. And in that's the infective agent rabies in the salivary glands. Lots and lots of saliva then you get bit. Lots of saliva lots of rabies that enhances the infection. Am I making this up is the the term hydrophobia? Related to rabies. That's a term. And it's always associated is HR rabies portrayals of that. Right. Oh, you're the water. I think the cujo had stuff in that as well. Honestly, I don't know. We're not gonna make something you kind of an urban legend connection. What's the connection there? I remember that I feel like when I was a kid then being like, well, you know, rabies the term is hydrophobic or hydrophobia or something interesting..
"rabies" Discussed on This Podcast Will Kill You
"There's a really big push to kind of get a better handle on what the disease burden really is in to really the real pushes to vaccinate dogs. And so it's massive dog vaccination campaigns and trying to rid the world of canine rabies, which in theory rid the world of almost all human rabies because there are very few cases of rabies outside of dogs the World Health Organization stance and the CDC stance is that with proper vaccination and post exposure prophylaxis. This is a preventable disease. Right. So it's preventable by many different mechanisms number one. If you have a domestic animal unique tobaks Nate it like, it's not an option of law. It's a law. But that doesn't mean people follow it. Right. And if you have eight Iraq shin with. An Aimal that you have any suspicion might be or any bat whatsoever. Then go to your doctor and say I got bit by a bat, and then you can be treated and. Yeah, I mean, the world has organization I will say this the numbers that they do know for sure is that fifteen million people around the world receive post exposure prophylaxis that means that we know that potentially hundreds of thousands of lives are being saved by the fact that this exists. It's almost it's pretty much one hundred percent effective. And so wait and see will kill you. Yes. If you are infected. Yeah. Not to scare you know. No, not to scare you because it has a very low incidence relative to some of the other diseases that are out there, and it's entirely preventable and so- waiting and seeing it's it's not worth it. Right. Yeah. Oh, is that fun? That was so much. This is one of the craziest. It is. Does is with coverage such it's a fascinating virus from a biology perspective. And it's so interesting the way that it's sort of crawled up the neurons of our collective consciousness. I like that. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Just the way manifest near buddy. Yeah. It's very it's very crazy. That's wonderful. Yeah. Okay. Well, all right. We as always we'll post all of our links to our sources on our website. This podcast will kill you dot com. And I'll give it specific shoutout to Dr tree dot hemmitt chewed. I think that's their name. Who wrote a lot of the articles that I read in who is one of the World Health Organization like experts on the res committee. Okay. I'll post all of the articles. So yeah. I read a couple of books. There's a book called rabid by Bill wa- sick, and Monica Murphy, and that's a popular science book, which is about the history and culture of rabies, and I also took from a book called historical perspectives of rabies in Europe and the Mediterranean basin. Finally, the information on the evolutionary history of rabies virus. I took from an article called host switching in Lissa virus history from the kayak threat to the carnival orders. Oh my God. I wanna read that's really interesting found so fascinating. So corrupter bats, by the way. Yes. But yeah, as always thank you so much for listening. Yeah. This is really fun. Thanks to blood mobile for providing all the music, and you know, what wash your hands, she if filthy animals..
"rabies" Discussed on This Podcast Will Kill You
"Okay. It's a good question. I actually this is not a good way to start. Our first episode of season two. I don't know. Let me tell you why. Because it's interesting. The World Health Organization, according to their most recent reports, there are fifty nine thousand deaths per year from rabies fifty nine fifty nights almost sixty thousand deaths from rabies, and they say about sixty percent of these deaths occur in Asia and thirty five percent are in Africa. And actually those fifty nine thousand only account for canine associated rabies. Okay. And that accounts for about ninety nine percent of all the rabies in the world. Okay. So that's what the World Health Organization says. And that report comes from a paper that was written in twenty fifteen. The province. There's another paper. There was also written in twenty fifteen which estimates seventeen thousand four hundred deaths quoted from Rabi different number. Yeah. So that paper came from the global regional and national life expectancy all cause mortality and cause Pacific mortality. So it wasn't specific to rabies. It was this paper that looked at the overall causes of death across the world from two thousand five to two thousand fifteen so trying to see what kind of progress we had made on various different infectious and non infectious diseases and other causes of mortality and their estimates of rabies worse. So drastically lower than this one single paper that now the whole World Health Organization and everyone else is citing that came out in twenty fifteen. So I feel very like, I I honestly don't know. And maybe people will yell at us one way or the other about this. But I don't know who to believe quite honestly in this case because the problem is that the vast majority of rabies debts are not reported. That's what it really comes down to is that all of these estimates are based on mathematical modeling and are based on our best guesses in all these various countries based on risk factors based on demographics. And so we don't know how bad rabies is what we do know is that in Africa and Asia, especially canine rabies is still a big problem. There are definitely tens of thousands of deaths that are occurring there due to dogs that are infected with rabies the pan-american Health Organization. Which is the World Health Organization for the Americas essentially, and they have a really huge campaign and their goal was to eliminate canine rabies by twenty fifteen throughout the Americas. Fifteen. Yeah, they didn't. They didn't quite hit that but they have reduced. The canine rabies is almost non-existent throughout the Americas. Not just in the United States, right, which is incredible. So now throughout the Americas. The the real root of transmission is through bats and through other wild animals, and so what is sort of the the new goal. There is a quote United against rabies collaboration. Okay. And it is a combination or a cross sectional effort between the World Health Organization, the world organization for animal health, the food and agricultural organisation, the FAA, oh and the global alliance for rabies control. So these four. Is that right? One two three four. Yeah. Four organizations all working together. Have this new United against rabies collaboration and their goal is to have zero human rabies debts by twenty thirty. Okay. So they've got some time which I think is respectable. Granted this thing literally just was published in June of this year. That's where it stands. Now.
"rabies" Discussed on This Podcast Will Kill You
"Pasture was still very hesitant to try this out in humans. But he was soon confronted with a decision that didn't leave him long to waffle. In July of eighteen eighty five a young boy had been bitten fourteen times by grocers dog. Oh, my God likely rabbit just all over his body. Pastures rabies research by this point was well known and the family went to Paris to seek help from the man himself secretly terrified, but outwardly confident very important my life, right? I wish. Pastor agreed to treat the boy with thirteen inoculations. He waited through many sleepless nights. Sure that he had condemned the boy to death, but the accusations Proops successful and the boy made a full recovery. The news of this achievement spread like wildfire across the globe and soon people began flocking to Paris to seek treatment. Wow. Yeah. Soon. It was apparent that these inoculations when given to a bite victim before any symptoms or signs of disease began represented the first actual successful prevention for Rabi, so cool. And what year was this again, eighteen eighty five. Wow. So yeah, it was it was pretty big. Yeah. So this the development of this vaccine marked a huge turning point in the history of rabies prevention with finally possible and many countries who could afford to either manufacturer or purchase rabies vaccine. The emphasis being on who could afford right began to attempt radicalization. And some were pretty successful actually said the U K has been declared rabies-free for almost a hundred years an island. So they've got that going for them yet. So even though the vaccine was in use in cases were dropping people still get rabies and still die from rabies almost all of them almost almost not Gina Gieszi who in two thousand four it was bitten by a bat. The fifteen year old Wisconsin native tested positive for rabies and was put into a medically induced coma to help her body fight off infection. Yeah. After seven days in the coma. The infection seemed to be going away and doctors slowly brought her out of the coma which is on heard of crazy. Yeah. Recovery was slow but steady and Gino made a full recovery while she's the first known. Person to survive rabies without having received any portion of any rabies vaccine. Yeah, she did receive some immunoglobulin. But no portion of any vaccine, which is insane. Yeah. Yeah. Since then other people have used the so-called Milwaukee protocol, which is putting into the coma. Putting percent to a coma that was developed by the guy who treated Rodney Willoughby. Bits with varying success? And so it's effectiveness is still really heavily debated amongst physicians. So even though we may not have a treatment, we do have vaccine. Erin, tell me where do we stand with rabies today?.
"rabies" Discussed on This Podcast Will Kill You
"But we've also got fear after all these thousands of years the bite of a rabid dog carries as much horror as it did from the very beginning is true, the reputation of rabies as viciously contagious and violent disease grew throughout this time. And it grew somewhat added proportion to the actual risk of disease as per use. Fear. Drove the widespread belief that a bite wasn't necessary for disease a lick alone for a rabid dog would also lead to inevitable death. So while you mentioned that a lick Ken, actually, it's it's very rare. It's likely that an actual increase in rabies cases was responsible for some of this fear. But with it came some tragic consequences mass extermination of dogs following rabies outbreaks dog tax in Britain, and France that restricted the ownership of dogs to the wealthy as if only dogs from poor people could transmit rabies and fear of rabies was probably responsible for adding a whole lot of color and depth to classic figures in literary horror, the vampire and the werewolf Polk. Both of them. Okay. Let's talk about this. Where will have been around for ages. They probably have their roots in a Greek myth about like in a king who according to one version of the myth tried to serve the roasted flesh of his own son to Zeus to test Zeus is all knowing abilities, his Leucippus being all knowing found out. Immediately raged out killed a bunch of like Han sons and turn like hand himself into a wolf. Ooh. Kind of loses it and these elements transformation into a wolf or dog like creature loss of control and violence. Make up the hallmark of aware wolf when the legend boomed in popularity in the sixteen hundreds issue time with one crucial thing added to the mix the bite or scratch of a werewolf could turn you into one. And this is still more or less how the werewolf is portrayed today with. Few exceptions. Wrong ones because that's the right. That's how you become aware. Well. It is law. Correct. At some point the full moon became also crucial is where we'll transformation is true, which I will also point out was to correspond correspondent times of increased rabies risk. I don't know why. Okay. Yeah. But there do seem to be too many parallels between rabies and wearables to ignore. Yeah. On the other side of this coin is the vampire vampires have been around for millennia, and many different cultures have their own version of a vampire or a creature with vampire like qualities so pinning. The creation of vampires on rabies is a little bit more difficult. But let's talk about the form of vampire that most of us are probably familiar with spike from Buffy. No, no, okay. The dracula. Yeah. This is the kind of empire created in the early eighteen hundreds and popularized by Brahms Stoker. In Dracula as with where wolves hypotheses as to the origin of vampires abound. But let's go through the evidence for rabies into we think. Yeah. Okay. We've got fear of sunlight check check no reflection. Check wait, why a historic method for testing. If someone had rabies was if they could recognize their own reflection if they couldn't emend lease madness had seized them. And they were doomed that is super fascinating. Yeah. Of K, a sexual nature check. So I'll keep this as PG thirteen as can mail suffers in particular of rabies are reported to frequently get erections or Jack late many times up to thirty in one day. I read somewhere human male. Human males. This is I don't know say should needed citation needed. I'd say, okay. Well, but anyway, the sexual nature that's part of. Bats. So most deaf kind of check. I mean is what I'm going to say, okay. Because it wasn't really until the twentieth century. So the nineteen hundred when people started linking the poison of some vampire, bats to an illness in cattle that turned out to be rabies. I see. So it's like we know now that it's bats. But when people were inventing, this Brahms Stoker's, Dracula, they didn't know that it was bad then necessarily necessarily. Okay. Yeah. All right. Okay. All right and last, but not least biting. Yeah. Kind of check again. Yeah. So this is because dogs and other mammals definitely become aggressive and easy when infected with rabies, but the disease doesn't really seem to necessarily make humans bite or to be able to transmit rabies through a bite, maybe because our teeth just aren't as good at breaking skin yet..
"rabies" Discussed on This Podcast Will Kill You
"Being. With the crab, a male male crab in in wine, you want those over. Wine. Yeah. Oh, that's could be anything. Oh my God. Yeah. So I don't know what you do with that. That also say what you do is beat up a snakeskin, but besides curing rabies. It also will keep Mods out of your chest drawers, not joking five the elder love everything about the things that you find. I'm sorry. Dr Aaron Aaron thank you, so good. Wow. Okay. In any case. The extremely wide variety of rabies, preventative more cures in quotes. So was the crabbing snake thing prevention or cure who knows? Everything. Yeah. Most of these are preventions, I guess preventative if you were bitten. Okay. All right. Okay. Post exposure pro flex. Yes. The wide variety of these is a pretty good indication that desperation drove people to try all kinds of things to themselves or their loved ones from dying a pretty horrific death makes you feel. And sometimes these cures probably appeared to work either because the bite from the dog didn't break the skin or the dog was just angry, not rabid. But really no actual advancements ineffective treatment or knowledge about rabies were made at all throughout ancient times. And up into the middle ages passability is really until pasture set his mind to rabies in the eighteen hundreds. We'll get to that later. Okay. This is this one more is just for you. Okay. If this is a this is a middle ages cure K if you are bitten by a rabid dog. I want you to grab a live rooster pluck all of the feathers from around its anus. And then hold said Anush to the bite wound. Now. Wait, wait. If the rooster swells up. It has sucked the poison out and you'll be fine. But if not. Nice note. I don't have any more. Poor freaking route. Also, I think it's called the khloe. That's what I loved the best about this is that they called in. I was like, whoa. Wait a second. There's just one. Ars? I'm aware. Okay. Check that all Ogies episode. If you don't know what a clue, by the way. At this point in our Arabia's history. We've just kind of breeze past the middle ages renaissance. Of course, you know, we're well into the Victorian era. Don't have it figured out. Yeah. So we're we're well into the eighteen hundreds little to nothing to show for it. Besides a laundry list of cures that don't work are more often than not inhumane and probably smell really bad..
"rabies" Discussed on This Podcast Will Kill You
"Often and probably still happening today. And they they needed to happen spillover events needed to happen because the rabies virus would burn itself out by killing dogs. Yep. It turns out that several types of rabies, viruses are exclusive to insect tiffs, bats. So that means bats that eat insects, and some researchers think that around seven thousand to twelve thousand years ago. One of these bats picked up a virus similar to the rabies virus from an insect at eight at either recombine or mutated into the rabies virus that we know it today. Dauth it. Yeah. They think it came from an insect virus. This is why I'm an Tamala. Are you kidding me? I didn't dig too deep. But it seems fascinating that. Yeah. Oh, that is freaking awesome. It's really cool. Despite the fact that rabies came from bats, most of the early references to rabies center around man's best friend, the pooch in which brings me to the other thing that we know about early rabies, we know that it has been observed and feared by humans for millennia largely in association with dogs. This comes from the first written references to rabies a law in the message tame, Ian, codex of s Yuna or something like that. From around four thousand years ago. So like nineteen thirty BC they had a law about rabies. Yeah. Four thousand years ago news, and they wrote it down. Yeah. That's how important of ally. It was especially considering that rabies only spilled over a few thousand years before that. Yeah. Crazy. Oh, my God under this law. If you had a rabid dog and didn't watch over it. And then it ended up biting someone and killing them. You would be fined from that point on. We see a lot of references to rabbit or mad dogs. We see descriptions of disease, progression, incantations or treatment options. Ancient Greece legs a bit behind in their medical knowledge of rabies, which is unusual for instant Greece. But they make up for it by giving the name to the family of viruses that rabies belongs to so the rabies virus as you mentioned is known as a list of IRA, and that is L Y S A. Yep. The word Lissa has origins either in Lycos Lecoq's Lycos for wolf fun or lewd L UD for violent. Ooh, kind of debated what? Which one it is. But it's cool. Yeah. And ancient Greeks used this word poetically to describe a primal animalistic rage. So like Homer wrote about Hector viciously attacking the invading Greeks in the Trojan war. He was in Eliza or he was interesting. Yeah. Let's not forget services spit, which I talked about in our crossover episode. With indefens- of plants many months ago. Oh, go listen to that if you haven't. So when when brought from the underworld to the surface of the earth, the three headed watchdog foam at the mouth and thrashed about because he probably saw son for the first time ever, red light. So it sounds like rabies sure are also just he was slobbery. I mean, we all know those dogs and. Lissa also meant straight up rabies to the Greeks in medical sense. Okay. The best early medical description of rabies comes from the Shusha Ruta Sam heater which is a sense text of ancient Indian medicine, and it actually does a really good job of describing the posture of rabid dogs. Fear of water the inevitable death the suffer so comprehensive. Like, yeah. You could look at that. And go that's rabies clinical diagnosis check. Yes. Exactly. To some rabies was a disorder of the mind madness sprung up spontaneously in a dog who then transferred it to you while two others rabies. Was venom similar to that of a snake or scorpion. How interesting whichever 'cause your doctor believed in dictated the treatment. Let's be honest wasn't gonna work yet. No, no at first bite. Cupping or cauterize the wound was a pretty routine option maybe filling it with clarified butter, which the victim was supposed to drink. Wait what you're telling me that they took your calf wound. Yeah. They filled it with gay. And then they told you lick it out of your own gaffe wound. They that's one or something to ATI. Oh, that's like the most vanilla of all of these cures. And this is also where we get our hair of the dog saying oh rubbing a few hairs from the dog that bit you so hair. The dog is short for the hair of the dog that bit you. Yes. Yeah. So rubbing a few of those hairs or maybe the burnt ashes from the dog's tail. Yikes..
"rabies" Discussed on This Podcast Will Kill You
"During our long long haggis. We got many requests for rabies. And we've been as we mentioned very happy to oblige. And yet it's actually been at the top of our long list of diseases that we've wanted to cover for many reasons. Some of them. You just heard about. I mean, it's just a super exciting disease. Yeah. Right. And I feel like it's been part of social consciousness for millennia as it turns out, it kind of actually has been there for millennia on my God. Whereas many of the diseases that we covered in our first season left. These big imprints on society through huge outbreaks victim counts in the tens of thousands of hundreds of thousands. Millions rabies seems more insidious effect on culture and humanity. The threat of madness in an agonizing death lurking in every shadow, maybe Darth Citius, was rabid. He was so. Even for science podcasts that was really nerdy. I'm proud of it. I'm proud of you. Yes. But even with this relatively low death toll. It's no wonder that rabies has led to the creation of laws inspired supernatural tales. God and continues to terrify even today. Before modern medicine germ theory the link between exposure and disease was let's say tenuous and often incorrectly assigned bad air imbalance of the body's humors cats. Demons the same thing just kidding, whatever. No, take hurtful. But also, they weren't wrong about cats. I mean, there's a lot of disease. They're sure so sure they're often blamed we talked about that. We did. Yeah. But people needed an explanation for why they were sick. And so they received one incorrect, though, it may be those my seven times the link was more easily drawn such as in the case of rabies. I think is pretty interesting. Also, get is interesting. You're get bitten by a mad dog. And you'll soon become mad yourself. Yeah. But how far back does this knowledge this link that is? So I couldn't find anything about evidence of rabies virus agent DNA, but we do know a couple of things about its early history or prehistory. Okay. Okay. So one of the things we know is that it originated in bats. Even though we probably most commonly associate rabies with dogs. Studies of the different strains of rabies virus show that at first spillover from bats into dogs thousands of years ago with additional spillover events occurring every so.
"rabies" Discussed on This Podcast Will Kill You
"There's pretty much almost no hope for you. Once you get to that stage. So once you start showing clinical symptoms. The average time till death is like a week. Wow. And that's pretty much it. So there's two forms of rabies. Once it hits the clinical stage and one of them is called furious rabies, and it's exactly what you think of as rabies. Like when you think rabies, you're thinking of furious rabies. Okay. And so we'll talk about all this furious. Rabies in second. Okay. With the other form is called paralytic rabies, and it's just as deadly. It's just instead of having the furious forum. You have exactly what it sounds like paralysis. Okay. So that one you tend to die a little bit more slowly. And then in in furious form, you die usually within five to seven days with paralytic, you might last like eleven. What a blessing. What's the split on this? What do you mean? The split. What proportion? Oh, yeah. Great question. So it's almost seventy to eighty percent furious. And then there's one to thirty percent. Paramedics furious is definitely the reason. It's the most like well-known is also because it's the most common. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So I know you wanna know about this. Yeah. You know, you read my mind, but you also you already know lot of the symptoms. Right. So what do you think of when you think of rabies, I think of? Fear of light. Okay. Fear of water k. Sort of like anger angry spells, but also calm periods of like not coma toes, but just sort of not moving, okay. Foamy mouth. Sorry, we go. Yes. So all of those are exactly what the rabies symptoms are. And so I wanna talk about how those actually happened because it's ridiculous. Yeah. So the first one is actually it's we can talk about how to symptoms happen with one affect and that's both hydrophobia the fear of water, which like what kind of symptom is that I'm afraid of water weird. It's really weird so hydrophobia and foaming at the mouth, which is caused by excessive salvation those are caused by the same thing..
"rabies" Discussed on GSMC Social Media News Podcast
"We have some interesting social media news one of them. I saw this makes me a little sad. But also informed. I guess you say because I feel dumb for not realizing some of the things which I'll talk about in a second. So unfortunately, a fifty five year old man from Utah has become the state's first Rabi fatality since nineteen forty four which is so sad. So this man he had a weeks long struggle with the infection and he passed away. I believe him. I'd have been just a few days ago. And this all started because he went to the hospital because he was experiencing neck and back pain. But he didn't think it was rabies at the time. Right. So that was a very unfortunate surprise. And as it said since nineteen forty four so often hear people getting rabies and passing away from it dot com. Seventy something years. It's it's been a while. So good for us up until now. We'll yeah, it's so this man is Gary Gyles and. As I said, he's from Utah. And there were several medical tests. He had to be transferred within the hospital. He ended up in intensive care. And he was at the inter mountain medical center. And according to his unfortunate now widow when she said that they had often allowed bats to land on their hands and lick their fingers because they didn't know that bats were infected with rabies. Really? Yeah. But she clams they had never been bitten by bats. And this is why I feel I feel like very uneducated and bad because I don't even think about rabies anymore. I so do I think everybody has rabies. I never I always think of it as like a nineteen forty four problem. Oh, no, see every like any random wild animal to me has your diet rabies. Okay. We'll see. Now, I'm more like that. Because I am also a big fan of bats. I kind of cute in a weird way. Oh, you don't like, oh, they tear. If I really situation. Okay story to do. I would I worked in a box factory. We would get bets inside the factory. Once we have a lot of doors open for shipping, and they would claim, you know, sometimes. Oh, yeah..
"rabies" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind
"This brings us to rabies. All right. Now let's it's easy to discount the horror of rabies especially, you know, our modern world Louis Pasteur devised a preventative vaccine back in eighteen eighty five. And if treated early the disease is one hundred percent treatable. Yeah, but rabies is an old enemy references to the disease. Date back more than four thousand years to the ancient Mesopotamia ins that the very dawn of recorded history. So it's it's been with us a while as breakdown what it does. Rabies is a viral disease that attacks the central nervous system. The virus enters the body has the spinal column and head straight to the brain for replication and destruction, and it's distressing enough to see the ravages of rabies in an animal. But in humans, it's it's even more horrific. There are several different strains of rabies, but we can break the virus down into two main types. Okay. On one hand, there's a paralytic rabies and this is typified by wariness and lethargy, but then encephalitis rabies is more common, and this is where we see foaming at the mouth. We see increased agitation, aggression, disorientation hallucinations, whatever the strain though it all culminates in Peru. Telesis and death. So I mean, I could basically stop there and I think everyone would see how this lines up with various interpretations of vampire. Right, you you? I mean, you're talking about a virus that attacks the nervous system and causes erotic behavior. And whenever we think of erotic behavior, we think, okay. Well, maybe that could cause people who didn't understand what was going on to think this person's turning into a monster. Right? And then towards the end, they're incapacitated and kind of in the state of of of of living death, right? Yeah. But then again, you think about how every virus diseases need a route of transmission and very often diseases are evolutionary smart like a disease that is spread by aerosolize droplets in the air tends to make people coffin sneeze. You know, the disease makes you coffin sneeze, so it can get to other carriers..
"rabies" Discussed on Pet Life Radio
"Yours can you explain to me in our listeners what exactly is. Mission rabies and how. You're able, to achieve these incredible goals yeah I mean mission rabies wonderfully. Explained it's it's in the name and, we see ourselves as a movement be want everyone to join in in the fight against rabies so. It's all about being extremely motivated bringing in all the resources to get this vaccine that we. Have for such a long time To the dogs that. Need it so. What we do as mission rabies we have our our head. Office here in the UK but be, half offices in in those countries that. Are in most need of help where rabies is still rife like India like and what we do. We train local people in those countries to take up the fight against rabies and be, run those mass vaccination. Drive with them as you said our initial drive kicks off mission rabies was vaccinating fifty thousand dogs. Across fourteen cities in India and everyone thought oh my God you are absolutely insane you cannot pull this off and you? Know, what we, did we vaccinated sixty. Thousand animals in the past that number that's incredible absolutely so this is really what mission rabies about we Aim High but we. Exceed what we're aiming for say every, year for instance a one of our flagship projects and go in India vaccinate over ninety thousand Stokes every year in Moulavi vaccinate around ninety thousand dollars, every single year so this is what it's. All about we want to vaccinate as many doctors post possible in a short amount of time, to get rid of this deceased stays no need that this is still around I just wanna be clear you did say ninety thousand dogs you're vaccinating. Nine Sierra yeah I don't even think people can conceive of ninety thousand dogs all in one place all in one country of. Course that number, is huge but I think the. Most amount of dogs I've ever seen in one place has to be in, the hundreds you're, talking ninety thousand that's. A really awesome goal and Artem number and you know just. In terms of how you were able to. Do it. What I. Think. Is incredible is you mentioned you train people. And the people, of the country to get involved in, the vaccination program. There's a, couple of really key characteristics that people talk about when, being successful they have Defined goal have a time line and then have an. Objective criticism to help you study your. Progress to those goal what do you think besides training those people at the site I at the country to help participate in the vaccination. Program what do you. Think has been the most. Important technique that's, helped you have. Such excellent success, with. Mission, rabies the team that's the first thing that springs to mind we have an incredible bunch of people who. Works here, in the UK who've. In all the different countries that we work in and they just make it happen you know they all go. The extra mile to. Achieve those goals and of course I mean. We are a, growing burden involving organization we started off as a in the. Beginning small project our sister.
"rabies" Discussed on Pet Life Radio
"Up to date on rabi is what do we do in terms of wildlife exposure what do you educate pet owners on if they do find a bat or a squirrel or an animal in the house great question and so going back to one point here at the unfortunate thing is that diagnosing rabies is pretty challenging and unfortunately there's no good test if we're talking about wildlife for example or even our pets or our selves there's no great test today gnosis rabies if the pet for example if the wildlife for example is alive unfortunately there's not a blood test story fecal tests common tests that veterinarians run on most animals to check for health rabies can't be diagnosed that way this no body change no specific imaging study and x ray for example can determine if an animal or person for that matter has been exposed to the virus unfortunately the only real way to diagnose rabies is to examine brain tissue and of course we don't like to do that get a biopsy or get a portion of their brain if the pet or the person is alive so unfortunately what that really means in simple english is testing can really only be done after the animal it has passed away so going back to your question just what do we do if there's exposure the first thing to do is to contact your physician if you've been exposed or if you feel like you're pet has been exposed to contact your veterinarian if the wildlife back or skunk for example is available has passed away and his safely able to be collected that something i would take to your local veterinarian vacant submit that pet or that wildlife for example to the local state government organization to test for rabies if it's not safe to collect that for example the bat is still alive we don't wanna put you in harm's way so i would not risk yourself getting bitten or exposed to rabies but if you can if it's safe to do so bring that wildlife specimen.
"rabies" Discussed on This Won't Hurt A Bit
"They have their own little defence he ought to get too close them great they i doubt so one of them would bite you i mean i feel like it will they love again cigarettes and took a frenchaccent here and there to stay away from that good it's actually amazing how few cases of rabies in the united states a caused boy dogs now in certain parts of the world dogs have a little rabies but in the united states rabies is incredibly rare infecting california i don't think there's been a proven case of rabies from a dog but in decades really i'll have to check my math on that but it's been a long time when i was in residency we talked about the sole tom in central south america dogs can have rabies but in north america almost none highfive to vaccines and the animal control center you know i don't think it's really vaccines because we don't typically vaccinate people against rabi no dogs yes we vaccinate down all ills yeah so he still had a good yeah i'd vaccines are good in jeddah the the classic thing that's taught about potentially dogs that can transmit rabies is it would really only be a stray dog that has a completely unprovoked attack on a human that'd be the only time that you'd kinda wonder like well maybe i should consider treating this person for rabies and even then you'd probably just corentin the dog and see what happened the dog but if you're in your work those rabies cars arms death ultimately if you get rabies it is a hundred percent federal row it is a terrible disease once have got it in its full form is only being i think maybe one or two people who've been have confirmed full blown rabies and survived.