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Rex Ryan

"To another edition of interested. I am Mike Greenberg. And I've been waiting all season long for this every Monday through this football season. Rex Ryan has been an institute your guest on our show mornings on ESPN get up. He is one of the most interesting people in and around the football world. He was the coach for many years of my favorite pro football Team New York, chats, he has lived a football life that is somewhat different. I think than almost anyone else's ever. And he is one of the the the pair of the most handsome football twins ever to be born into the National Football League Rex Ryan, absolutely. Appreciate it. Greenie, great of you to do this. And thank you. And we're having this conversation here on a Monday after another very interesting NFL Sunday, and we'll get into some of the specifics of what's going on in the league right now coming up, but I want to start with this. You were twenty three years old in nineteen eighty-five. What are your? Recollections of the eighty five pairs. Oh my gosh. I mean, clearly, you know, I it's to me was the greatest defense in the history of the game. But really the best team. I think also. In history. Everybody appointed the one loss, and you know, like Miami killed him. That's not true go back and look at those stats they gave up three hundred and three yards. I think really that's it. So they were wanting to play the dolphin so bad in that Super Bowl because they were gonna they were gonna tear them. You know what? So I think that was what I remember. It was great. We used to always, you know, we'd be a in a we'd have our little drink on and all that kind of stuff watching all those games, and and then we'd be cranking tunes and all that stuff. Another one by Saddam's, we play it after every game. And then I remember when they beat on a Monday night. That the neighbors downstairs played another. I went down there. And and somebody got dusted, and it wasn't me. I should've loser van I should have prefaced. The question by saying your dad buddy was the legendarily the defensive coordinator on that team. And they carried him off the field as they did. And then of course, the following year. He was the head coach of the eagles. I remember that team so vividly because I was freshman in college at Northwestern University in the Chicago area in the fall of eighty five and that was before there was direct TV. And before they were, you know, before he would have a sports bar, even and watch games anywhere you wanted. So you watched whatever was on. So I watched every game that year, and I have a long maintained in a one year timeframe that's the best team in NFL history. You just said I would pick that team to beat any other team for one year. They didn't they didn't have the prolonged success. He can't compare them to the Steelers and the forty Niners and the Packers and all of that. But for one year, I thought it was the best what ball team IRA saw. Absolutely. I totally agree with that. You got Walter Payton is running back. Jim McMahon who is very competent quarterback Willie gone at JIMBO covert should be a hall of fame. Tackle. I mean, they were they were absolutely loaded. But you know, what I thought it was just the they've everything else. Also like every team everybody wanted to watch the bears and to meet look they do the Super Bowl shuffle. They record that thing by the way, that's a real deal that they did after they got beat by the Miami Dolphins. Like, that's just how you talk about swag. And all that. Oh my God. And let's face greenie all these new rules in the league right now. Yeah. Protecting the quarterback all these type of his. Yeah. All they wanna to do is like they'll never want to see a Chicago bear type style of defense ever played again. And they knocked out ten straight quarterbacks starting quarterbacks never finished the game against him ten straight. So there was the most dominant defense team in most dominant team I've ever seen certainly I have said somewhat jokingly. That I think that team could have punted on first down all year and gone eight. I really I think it could've played no offense and one half their. That's a good point. I'll never forget, you know, being a student I use that term loosely at Oklahoma and in going down and watching you know, they played at Dallas. And let's see Cowboys zero defense fourteen down was it was it was like crazy. I know there are a lot of people listening who are not old enough to remember that team Helling you right now that was the best football team ever assembled. The defense was ridiculous. And as you said McMahon was healthy. He wasn't even he missed quite a few game right here. When McMahon was healthy. They had an explosive offense. They had good receivers goal was a burner that Dennis McKinnon. They obviously they had Walter Payton who is perhaps on the tail end of his prime but still phenomenal. So that was it was the best team ever. Yeah. No. I don't I totally agree with you. And let's face it. The game. They did lose by the way. Mcmahon. Wasn't in there. Right. Okay. He was out partying, you know, the time before he knew he wasn't gonna play then they put them in a game. But that's another story. But they were clearly. You know, it's not even close. But I wish people would have seen that defense. And I was part of a great defense two thousand raven everybody talks about greatest ever. No. We broke records least amount of points ever given up. Okay. We get that in season. And when you put the play offs in there and all that, you know, it'd be about eight points game or something when you clue the place. So is a phenomenal defense. But you know, what people actually thought that they could do something against us. Well, here's what happened the difference with the eighty five bears. They were scared to death. Nobody wanted to play. And they knew there like oh my God. Let's just get through this game. Dennis Thurman told me he was the third string quarter. So he's starting safety for Dallas. But he was the emergency quarterback. They came to him, you know during the game. They're like, listen Dennis. You may have to go in there. And all that goes say, listen, I'm not doing anything. I'm not even handing a ball. I'm taking a knee. So if you put me, and I'm. Taking. That's what they were at Becca. And so I was gonna ask you about the two thousand ravens because you on that staff, and that is the defense that when we talk about the great ones, we owe at feels like that's the progression eighty five bears two thousand raven. Right. How were they different? Well, we never knocked you know, we weren't knocking quarterbacks out like that. And and we weren't blitzing. Like, we're my dad would blitz every snap. Like, you talk about some of these all the blitz. No. No, no, no, no this guy. My dad would just totally you know, just his whole goal was knocked the quarterback out. And he blitzed you from the first played in a lash play never cared. They were up forty points on you. That's how he did. And that's how his team was built. Look that team. Never had a college corner on it. They had safety's. So that I don't care. What you just knock the hell? The guy line scrimmage. You. Gotta cover him for two seconds. That was the truth that was it the team that I was with blitz. Very rarely. But we were so technically sound fundamentals. We had some dominant players up front in the running game. And we the best player in the world. And Ray Lewis. So that was it. But when you look at them, we are an excellent defensive team and. You know, it was led by that that front four and all that stuff that that did a good job. But it wasn't anything as near as intimidating as that bear defense. Now, if I'm remembering this, right Brian Billick is the head coach of that team. Two guys win the Super Bowl Marvin Lewis was the defensive coordinator. And what were you coaching? I was the D line coach. So you were coaching that would be Siragusa those guys saragousse. I and funny thing is when I went there greeny, they told me these guys were done. Okay. We're going to you know, build and all that. And I was like, no they're not done. They had they doing some crazy things Siragusa as a natural left handed guy. First thing. I did. I mean, right defensive tackle. So he can play with his left hand down just little things like that. We did fundamentally and I had to to ends that were just relentless robber net. And those enor- your New York I by the way, and then and Michael McCurry their undersized guys. But man, they had they had so much heart. It was unbelievable. But we said, I you know, what these guys are a hell of a lot better than you think. And the more we played look we broke the all time record least amount of rushing yards given up in a season least amount of rushing yards per average. And that's really attributed to that group right there. Yes. We had Ray Lewis behind. But guess what? You couldn't get to Ray Louis. So it was just a it was a scary situation. You know with with the players that I had we it was just such a a great team defense. And when you look at the coaching staff, we have we a Jack del Rio was aligned baecker coach, you know, pretty good when you know later. Mike single Terry later, you know, Nolan comes on board this many years later, but all these head coaches were because array Lewis, by the way, and myself included, but we really did have a hell of a coaching staff, then and you know, it's funny because Brian Billick was a great offense of mine. You know, the you talk about oh look at the genius Brian Billick when he was office coordinator with a Vikings. But what Brian did his best thing? He he did was put together one. One hell of a coaching staff. And I think that was something he doesn't get enough credit for and recognize putting his ego aside and say, I may be an offensive guy. But the best chance we have to win is not to turn the ball over on offense. And let our defense win it in a lot of guys. I think in the league would be leading what their ego and saying, no, no, no, no, I'm good. I'm going to find ways to win based upon my strength. And instead of doing what he did. Which was the right thing to do. Which was we've got a great defenseless. Just not let the offense screw it up. No. That was it. And there were times in games. Look. We went five straight games five straight games without scoring offense. Touchdown. Oh. By the way. That was the year. We won the Super Bowl that's dominant that legendary stories so those are some great defenses. And then here's all the things. I give you the most credit for the first is this that is you then took over the New York Jets as a head coach. Of course, I watch every snap of every game. So I know that team as well, as you know, what team if you're just a fan, and you took you took over that team in annual first year they were. Number one across the board in defense number one with the basically the same players that had been there before you became the coach. So I've always wondered this. How do you do that? How does it coach come in? You can joke around whether it's self modestly or whatever it is and say well, great players. They were the same players. They weren't the number one defense in the sport. When you weren't to coach you came in. They became the number one. It's how does that happen, greedy? First off their twenty third in the league in defensive and we did take them to number one six starters. Are you know, six guys left the defense from the year before but we replaced them. I replaced a guy on all three levels. So I brought an defensive lineman. This isn't a household name. Marquees douglas. Okay. The legal longtime was a college free agent, but played over ten years in a leak a guy named barscott, by the way hell of a football player right football player. And so we spend a lot of money on to get Bart. Scott. But he another guy that happened to be a college free agents, amazing this happens. And then we bring in a guy named Jim Leonard who could who's five foot nothing. Okay is a safety. But in another college free agent that wasn't by happenstance. I brought him in why? Because I wanted to one in my team to see the work ethic of guys at weren't. Even drafted weren't gonna thought of they weren't even good enough to be drafted. And yet, you know, what watch these guys play all three of those guys were great and preparation because I know that's important when you're coming in trying to put in a new defense, and all that these guys are believers why they've been successful in it and all three of them had phenomenal work ethics. So that's what we brought in to the jets. Did we flip it overnight? Absolutely. It was all based on one player is. And that player was derives. I had a special player in Durrell Rivas. So everything. I did was focused on that individual. And so I'm like, okay. He's going to take away their best receiver. I don't care who the hell that receiver is. So that's what I did. And I rolled my coverage when when we played zone. We actually rolled our coverage to the second best receiver. Why I locked down Rivas on the other side. And so that's how good Durell Rivas was. That's how much he meant to me in that kind of system and we flipped it overnight. I have said many times that I thought the real reebus was the most valuable player in the league at the time that he was playing and they have attached the word the name shutdown corner to a lot of people since him. And I keep saying you don't know what a shutdown corner is if you comparing this guy to you know, Rivas would hold the best receivers in the sport. Chad Johnson Calvin Johnson you name it Tara loans to catches nineteen yards. When those it'd be their stats in games against rivers playing them all by himself. He was that good. The fact that he wasn't even named d. Offensive player of the year that year with no disrespect at all to our Charles Woodson. Who was also a great player and won. That award is ludicrous reverse was that good. He was that good in in by the way. Greenie we were forty or fifty yards better than the Green Bay Packers who finished second in the league that year that's the separation between that jet defense and the other ones. So we had a great defense. And he was the best player on that defense. And for me the way we used them. He certainly should have been the defensive player of the year. And I and I said I I remember we gave up or the Packers gave up as many touchdown passes to the AirAsia cardinals in one game happened to be a playoff game. Then we gave up all season as a team. So who the hell shoulda gotten defensive player of the year? Yeah. Guess what it should have been Drori? And that again, taking my own phantom out of the equation is what led me to the following statement. I believe the most valuable thing to have on defense. If you. You can get one is a corner that you can put one on one with the other teams top receiver because they all this talk about a pass rusher. I get pass rushers. I get Khalil Mack is a great player in a difference maker. But if you have that if you have rebus, and I think a guy like Patrick Peterson is pretty close to that. And some of the others the best in the sport. If you have that I think that actually frees up your defense to do more things than anything else. The other team can gain plan around a pass rusher. You can't game plan around a guy who was just flat gonna take your number one receiver away from you. That's if you know what you're doing defensively meaning and meeting that I I watch all these teams in the league right now. It's a joke you can count on one hand. How many guys would take advantage of a corner like that? And so it's like this. How how so explain that? In other words, you gotta be creative in what you do with a great player like that great corner. If not they're just gonna hate look. He's over there. No big deal. Who's on the other side? All this kind of stuff but teams will play I'm gonna play cover three. That's what we do. We're gonna play covered two. That's what we do. All these different covers. No, you gotta be multiple in. What you do when you have a special talent. Or he's going to be a really good player. But he's not gonna be different. Here's what I really wanna dive into. So let me explain to everyone. Why I wanted so badly to do this this podcast? I'm interested with Rex. Here's what I'm interested in. So you are remembered more than anything else for your bravado because you were this huge larger than life personality. And understandably so that is memorable. But what I've always said is Rex's a defensive genius. You're like an Xs and os genius like a savant and in the same way that whoever the Bill Walsh wherever you wanna put out there is an offensive genius. So explain that part of it to me you once redoing post game press conference as the coach of the jets and someone asked you a very specific question about something you were doing defensively, and you said, okay, this one is just for the advanced class. Right. Okay. So let's do a little advanced class stuff. You've got Patrick Prejean. I'm just making this up. What should you be doing with him? If you're a team that normally plays the Tampa to beer saying scrap that throw that away. And do what will greenie first off? I would look at every opponent we played as game plan specific. So it wasn't that. Hey, we're just Tampa two defense or we're cover three defense or whatever it is everything is based on the opponent, you're playing so for instance, let's say you're playing you're playing the giants one hundred percent of the time. Let's say that I don't have a derives K one hundred percent of the time. I'm gonna roll my coverage to him a hundred percent who del tufo Dell. And here's the difference. If he's lined up outside when a play cover to in other words, I want I want to get my corner his hands on Odal Beckham. So I'm gonna tack you at the line of scrimmage and always have help on top. Okay. That's how I'm gonna play it. I guess what? If these inside if I play cover two, then he's got free free access will we don't want that he'll destroy. So what would I do? Now. I play quarters. So this is how simple that the game. Is that I make it to my explain that to our audio orders. Now means I'm gonna beat the hell out of the number two receiver. All right, and he's going to take the quarter flat. So his main job is to disrupt the timing of that guy. Don't let him off the line of scrimmage without bloodying his nose. The number chancellor down the line of scrimmage any is hitting him right out. I don't care if he's off the ball on the line or whether I'm gonna hit the number two receiver. Okay. That's when I play quarters. Okay. And basically what that means you get a corner that can be safety. But I'm beating the heck out of your your primary guide. So no matter where he is. I'm going to roll my coverage to that player. I'm gonna get my hands on that player. I look at tyreek hill the cheetah. All right. Nobody nobody is laying a hand on this guy. Why Andy Reid? So smart. He sees your coverage and he adjusts. Okay. Hey, oh, they're they're rolling cover to he's on the outside. They're playing cover to. Okay. I'm gonna put them into position. I'm going to put him in the three position. Okay. Now, you can't touch him because the cover to play cover to all you want. I've got free access with ivory kill. That's what's happening. And you know, how do they do it not not necessarily by alignment, but they'll motion. It's okay. Every defense. I played it. When. Knit matter. What you did? And that was the difference between how I would. And I'm just giving you a zone example. Yeah. Okay. But that's kinda then that's what's missing in this leak. Remember, I have the when you're looking at chessboard. I would have the black pieces on the chessboard. I get the move last you move. I is soon as you move on gonna check Maecha because I get the move last. I'm always gonna put my team in the best situation. You know to be successful. Look, man, we we we were with the jets. We say what we want my last year that we never had an NFL corner on the field. And that's a true statement. I think we ended up six in the league little below where we normally were. But how the hell do you do that? I remember we're playing Peyton Manning. Okay. Who broke the record at here. Am like well veins gonna kill us. He's absolutely going to kill us. We can't cover them. We don't win a single match up against Peyton Manning and the Broncos not one. So you go in there, and I'm like well. Do something. He's never seen. I'm gonna make him run the football. Now, did they beat us running football? Yes. They did. You know, all that stuff. But I wasn't going to take a but kick and sitting down. Yeah. How'd you walked out my Outside Linebackers on the number one? Receivers I presented a five-man box and made them run the football. Why? Because I beat the hell at number one guys, and I play others owns off of it. But it was the only chance we have what Peyton to paint nad check to a run at first Heathrow into it. And then he had to check to a run, you know, and he'll do that. Right. Like sort of not do it. Yeah. He was really him and Brady two two guys that prepared better than any quarterback by far hen shoulders, but you better do something different against them. Or they're going to light you up like Christmas. Let's talk about that chess match. So now it's Rex Ryan against Peyton Manning. I did this podcast on the offensive side a few weeks ago with Matt Hasselbeck, and he said to me, I'm game planning. All week. My opponent is the defensive court. Right. So when you're you're coach when you're a defensive coach and your game planning is your opponent the quarterback is that who is that. Who you you've you as your opponent? No, it's a whole offense. So I'll look at their scheme. I obviously, I'm gonna know their personnel. And things I am going to know the quarterback is a quarter is smart guy. If he's smart I'm gonna use it against him is the power using let me stop you there. Harry using his beings. Ryan Fitzpatrick will we say, he's a smart guys got a Harvard education and all that any smart player. Ryan Fitzpatrick would average getting rid of the football in two point two seconds. Okay. So in other words, he's throwing thank quick what I would do is lay traps out there. I wouldn't do it early. I let him get comfortable. And then I'd lay them when I wanted to in the weeds, look bad. Statistically, does it bear it out. How many times we have picked sixes against him? He throw picks. He do all that type of stuff why because I'd get him to throw in a loaded zones. And but I would use. The fact that this a smart guy. He's going to get the ball out. Quick doesn't wanna get hit doesn't wanna get sacked? Maybe present of a pressure to him. Even though it's not a pressure in let them throw in the two loaded zone. So but helped me with this because Brady is a smart guy, Greg, and he also gets rid of the ball, really fat. Yes. So why doesn't that work against him? Well, it does. Sometimes. Yeah. It does. And it works against a lot of guys that the difference between Brady is if you go to three man rush, or you know, all of a sudden you overload a little bit and give them the an illusion of pressure. He's better and more patient. Now, the he sees it. Hey, I've had more time to throw the football. Where Ryan Fitzpatrick will just throw it regardless. Interesting. Okay. So what you're saying is as smart as a guy like Patrick is just basic intelligence. He went to Harvard. We understand all of that that there's a next level football smart that someone like Br. Radius, absolutely and him and Peyton Manning. Those are the to the rest of them. You know, there's guys I've played has really smiling. Yeah. I gotcha. All that. Hey, listen, buddy. I I know you got me one time. But at the end of the day, I probably beat your four or five times. So that's kind of how how it really is. And when you look at it, it's. You know, those are such exceptional guys Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and then draw a line. So let's talk specifically about Peyton. What is it that made him that just his preparation was out of this world? And so I remember I did a show with Michael creating right? And he would always get frustrated when people will talk about how. Well, this guy's preparation is greater no one works hard in this guy. He would always say we all work hard. We're all out there working hard. Are you telling me that in your view Peyton Manning legitimately worked harder prepared harder or better or smarter than other practically any other player? Look if if I mean absolutely greenie I'm saying one hundred percent because his commitment to the game. And all that was second to none. So I'm saying is you prepare twenty hours out of the twenty four hour day. Probably like, it's crazy when you get to that level. He. He doesn't expect you to have that same kind of commitment. Although he expects you to to be committed and all that to do your job. But then go a little extra Peyton Manning would in in. You know, would would go way beyond that way beyond that, you know, we're we're playing and we get be in Baltimore one of the greatest defenses in the history. Nobody talks about is our two thousand and six raven defense led the league and more categories than any defensive a history. Okay. Lee look at them. But here's the deal. We gave up five field goals to Peyton Manning. Okay. We also turned it over four or five times that game. But we had the best team. We're gonna win the Super Bowl that year. And it was just you know, it hasn't gone well form he may be thirty quarterback rating or something like that hasn't gone. Well, but at the end of the day they needed to play the most it came down to a third down. If we were gonna finally get the ball back wound win the game. And I'm sitting back over. There. And and we play like a two man coverage. It's impossible the make throw that he makes yet he prepared himself. So well that if if literally you had the size of a basketball goal and laid it out there the ball would have gone through there. The only spot he can fit it in he fitted in why he was prepared to do it. And it's just he was on time. Remember that team did very little motion all that kind of stuff they lined up, and they just played but over and over I can't how many times Marvin Harrison he's got him in the same spot all the time. And it's going boom, boom, boom. He knows where he is can play the game probably with with his eyes closed. That was how good Peyton Manning wasn't his reparation. So that's a level of dedication that you're saying the other people just don't they think they are. But they don't have that. It's not natural. It's really not when he became available. And I know we had a neck injury. We had a good football team. And you know, I'm like, hey, you know, this is we're okay, we can compete with anybody and all that. But I never wanted to compete. I wanted to win. And I remember sitting back having a conversation might Tannenbaum was GM. Woody johnson. I'm like, I don't care. What it takes us. Get paid Manny why. 'cause we will be in the playoffs every single year. Look at some of these brilliant coaches, brilliant coaches, right? So you got Aaron Rodgers guess what you're going to be in the playoffs every year. How did they look last year? When he went out what they went to three games. Like how that makes the difference Tom Brady, I don't know shoot. We shut out the patriots. When he in the quarterback, you know that would have been fun. Hell, you know. Let's let's line up that will give me Tom Brady and see how many how many championships I add. But that will make you when you get a special cat like that Tom Brady Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers man, it's. Life's good in. So that was it. I wanted paid Manny on my team. So that brings us to the Brady Bella check discussion. So one of the things that I remember you saying you didn't come to New York to kiss Bella chicks absolute. But it always felt to me like you. And he had an have a very good relationship that that was my external perceptions that you guys are friends, and that you like each other do I have that. Right. You looked like friends to me from a distance hanging out at the scouting. Combine and stuff like that. Do I have that wrong? No. I mean, I think there's obviously a great deal respect. I have for for ballot. Check. I know he's the best coach in the history of the game. There's no question about it. You know, friends, probably not. But I respect the hell out of him. Whether he respected me or not probably in in a little bit. I think he did some of his actions will tell you that he respect to respect me. So I think that's it. You know, are we are are we cordial can we talk and in in almost do like real talk about certain things -absolutely. Yeah. That's always been my perception. Not really important their way. But it leads me to the question. I'm fascinated by Bella check Brady like that is the most successful combination in the history of sports. I mean, you gotta you gotta you're having the conversation about read our back and Bill Russell and Popovich Dunkin and some of the other great. That's that's where they are. They're they're compared basically to the immortals. Do you think that they're the launch? Can you break it down to it has been more Bella chick or more Brady? Is there an answer to than man? I I mean, look your time by the greatest quarterback in a history of the game your time by the greatest coach and a history of the game. So, but but more importantly, like they're better than just the individuals. Like, you know, you know, there's some greater than than their part. Yes. They are so good together. And it's just it's unreal. In greenie. I would argue with the are back and Bill Russell way. Also at Havlicek. You also had Cousy also had all these type of guys. Right. So to me, there's no comparison. This is a football thing that there's been nobody out there. Who who the hell is this guy? Julien Ataman was a quarterback in in high in on in college. You know, but whatever he got better and better and all this kind of stuff Wes Welker. Nobody cared about. What's oh. By the way, became a household. Name greatest slot receiver around, you know, so gronkowski. You know, all these things great he plays or he doesn't play. It doesn't matter like the they do such a great job in another guy that I would throw in there that that everybody hates Josh mcdaniels by the ways pretty good coach. Yeah. And you know what? But so their marriage collectively those guys together. I it's it's just been an unbelievable run in an I certainly when a kiss their rings because I would try to kick their butts one hundred percent, I'll be like, no, man. You know, what you're better than me? You know overall? Let's see if you're better meet today. And that's kind of the tape that I I would have on it. And by no means would I went into every single game against Bella CSAK in any. Nobody else ever coached against thinking. I'd win the best win the New York. Jets franchise has had candidly since Super Bowl three was when you went in there and beat them in Foxborough to advance to the AFC championship game. Your second year, you beat them. If I remember correctly twenty eight twenty one scored a touchdown to make at twenty eight fourteen and then they sorta hold on for an onside kick at the end and all of this. But you go in there and beat them in Foxborough that was at the greatest one of your career. Yeah. I think so when you look at there's I I had some good wins. But I I would say you know, that that was I if you just look at it the one game. Yeah. That was huge. There's no question in and greeting. The fact they previously we have played on Monday night and got beat forty five to three by that team forty five three. I was there you know, where nine in to bowl teams are nine into. And all of a sudden, oh, we get smoke like sausage that game. And then coming back. I was when I buried the football and all that kind of jazz. But I told my team that day I said, you know, what we're gonna play in six weeks. I knew we play McGinn. I said the difference. We're going to beat them. But that's okay. We'll address it at a different time. We gotta get better. And by the time, we went around see everybody remembered forty five three what people forgot his we already beat them week too. So everybody just wanted to dismiss that game. All they wanted to focus on was the forty five three. I knew we are Hella closer not. But that was you know, that that was part of the deal and we wanted to play them like we never feared him. Trust me. We wanted to play him. And the only thing that goes back as we beat them way way better than that score indicated. But that was when the Sean green decides he's escort touch. You know, I challenge Anthony, Lynn and all that stuff. I go eight Lincoln we ever pop one of these things like really we're just gonna have to, you know, keep saving your Sunday. And he goes we're gonna score right now. And we did it was like I'll go jogging out of silent than a realize where the hell I was. I remember looking up and saying wise wrecks in the end zone. He was that was my thought also. Okay. One more thing on this. And then I wanna do is a couple of of individual pieces, but Damien Woody is another regular guest on show, and he was an offensive lineman on your best jets teams. And he told me a great story. So I need to verify the truth quotient of the story. So you're playing San Diego in the playoffs right on the road. And you have a fourth in one late in the game. You can kick a field goal that was going to give you if memory serves a four point lead or a five point lead. It would have you would have given you more than a field goal. But less than a touchdown lead. Philip rivers could have come down the field, unbeaten you or you can go for it on fourth in one and plus territory and try and end the game. And he told me that you told Damien Woody and Brandon Moore who were the right side of the offensive line said I want you to walk up to the defense. I want you to tell them we're running the ball right here point to the spot where you were running the ball. And then run behind you guys. And we're going to get the first and we're going to win the game. And that's exactly what you did. They. They told them we're running the ball right here. They ran it behind you ran up behind those two guys. You got the first down you win the game. Is that a true story? It's a true story. But there's more to it the night before the game. I talked about how the difference between us and the charges were they were soft. And and you know, what's going to happen? They live in San Diego after the game. They're going to go back to the beach and hang out sandiego where we going. We don't have a stadium. We had a stadium with somebody else's name on we played in Giants Stadium back. Then right. Like, what the hell like, you know, to me we're way tougher now. And so where to go in there, we're and we're gonna take their lunch money from I should. But how we're going to do it. It's gonna come down to a fourth down play. And we're going to have a fourth and one and I'm gonna sit by hey, we're going to run our power play. That's what we do. That's our bread and butter. We're going to run it right behind de would we're gonna run it right behind Brandon more. And and we're gonna win the game that. Way. And I'll be darned if it doesn't come down to that situation. Now, green there's only like a minute and thirty left in change or whatever they haven't really drove in. I mean whether they scored one touchdown in that game. So the call was to kick the field goal. But no way the night before I told our whole football team what we're going to do. And so now, I call him over Thomas shows hadn't played the whole game. I look a our best against their best. Go get are getting their son. Let's go and I put Tom at shows in a game. And the funny thing is right there. I forgot that. We're you know, I told him that he look as we're gonna point. I want you to point to say, we're running right here. Why forget that. I told him that here comes Brandon more and Damien Woody in their point. We're running right here. Like whole God, y'all know I am. Here we go. We hit it for like four four yard gain. It was unbelievable. And but that was a huge win. And you know, when when you asked me a. Question about maybe my biggest win. Maybe my biggest win was week two of my first year because I think that gave us tons of credibility when we. Yeah. And we'd beat the hell out him. We went zero blitz like ten straight place to into game. And I told our team the night before I said Wayne here to the plane close we're here to beat them. And we're going to set a tone right now that hey, guess what we need to same old jets in that week was so important to me member. I send a little message out to the fans. Yes, I do. Okay. And. I've never heard a stadium louder in my life. Then that day and in all the years, I've coach and all that since prior whatever. No, no stain was ever been that loud. The the it literally was Rockin, and I fed off our crowd to where it's I ONA. Where's your blitzen again? Because I did the whole thing was shaking home. I god. Like, no that you know, Brady were coming worked coming to knock your butt off. And that was it. But I fed off it, and I think it gave the the fact that, hey, I'm here, and I'm not we're not the same old jets that we're here to take your lunch money and be the most physical football team on the field that that's what we did. I let me just ask you as we wrap this. I could do this forever. But as I have to let you go because you have to catch a flight, let me just bounce a few names off you and just give me whatever thoughts come into your mind. Doesn't have to be one word just whatever thought comes into your mind. When I say, these names, let's start. With your father, buddy. Ryan what what what roll? What impact is? He have on your life and your career to this day. Oh, huge. I mean, obviously as many as many sons they'll follow in their father's footsteps, well, the the family businesses football. And I just followed in my dad. It was natural to me. I don't I don't think I knew any different. He was just my dad, you know, he was one of the only guys would show up all the baseball games. And by the way, our baseball team went one that you'd really wanna go why. But he'd be there every time he was just a loving, dad. And when you look at the football coach phenomenal like twenty thirty years ahead of his time. And he will he literally if you're going to take an assistant coach in put him in the hall of fame, the first guy you put in Buddy Ryan on the staff of the Super Bowl three jets, right obviously created the forty sixty fence, which is the most famous defense ever. We talked about the eighty five bears and. And then on from there and engendered sort of an affection and a love from his players and fans that I think is is unmatched. I Mike and I did our show in Philadelphia million times. Right. And the fans there were compare Andy Reid to buddy all the time. Hey, and I would keep saying you do realize Andy retook it. And yet he wasn't buddy. Ryan. And they went to something in that town that they just loved your father, really one of the funniest things ever. My dad did a live radio show. Okay. And so it started every time he'd take his little thing scotch, you know, about a fifth scotch whatever in there with him. Yeah. And start drinking and start off a little mellow by the end of that show who the scotch was guy it I mean eight ever cared. And I think it was like the number one, you know, just talk show in the country, not just Philadelphia no in the country. So it was just must you know? But the thing about him, he sees so genuine in the fan base related to him so much because why no he was you know, he he was going to tell you the truth. And at least what he believed to be the truth and he never cared. What the consequences? It was one of these, you know, ready fire aims and trust me. I've done that a few. By self. But that was who he was. And that was the genuine buddy. Ryan, let's not forget now he was a Master Sergeant in the Korean war at eighteen years old. So he was lead men in a battle for the lives. They're not a phoney bone in my my father's body. And you know, what to me I think that's what I've inherited. And I think the same thing when which win brother, it's great you touched on already. But Ray Lewis. What what would you say it was that made him as good as he was passion? The first thing. I think of is passion. And the thing about Ray was it was never about him. It was always about us in. That was what he brought to the to you know to that team. He was the Baltimore Ravens. You might recall greenie. He was available as free agent. But I knew the impact he had on that community in on that football team. I couldn't bring him here because. No, he he needed to stay about more raven forever. And that's because that's who you associate that team with we were going to do our own thing with jets. But I was just so fortunate to be around him I was around him for ten years. And so my greatness went Beal say, oh, this guy's a great player. And all that. No, no, no. This guy. You know greatness to me makes others around him better. That's what this guy was. He was a leader more than anything else. You know, we all know in my opinion. No better middle linebacker in the history of the game. Then Ray Lewis in in. I know the old school crowd will say dick buckets, I really never saw dick Butkus play. But what I did see is how Ray Lewis took a locker room and just, you know, even when he was done his last year plan he almost will that team to a Super Bowl championship. And it just they're very few people like this so fortunate to be around, and then Rivas if you were to if I were to ask you who is the greatest. Defense of player you ever coached. Is it Ray is close. He's definitely close. And you know, I've been I've been so blessed to be around so many great players hall of fame players and all that. But rebus had is big impact is you can make on a team the time that I had him when he was healthy. We saw what what happened to her team when when he went down and like week three or whatever it was we couldn't recover from it in. It's like a corner. But here's the thing. You'll lose games fastest at quarterback and cornerback. And when we when we lost him, we we couldn't overcome it. And then a final question and one that I know reverberate with you to your core as football person the way the game is played today. The way the game is -ficiating today. The way that the game has gone to a. Between fantasy and all of the stuff that the league wants offense. They wanted to be like pinball machine numbers. Can you win a championship on defense anymore? Absolutely. I I would say one hundred percent. You can't I I think all those things are positive greenie fantasy football's great it brings a a larger audience to the greatest game. There is in the new rules who protect our players. I don't have any qualms about that. What I have trouble with right now is seeing how people are not like it's okay to prepare like on offense. These guys are really prepared in wilder this this we're set Saint preparation on defense. And sometimes people I was with a team last year that my latte last time with buffalo. They wanted to. Let's just rush four and do all this to do that ain't had the games played. Like, you may think it is. But there's times when you're going to have to do some different against certain opponent. But I don't see the. Pepe preparation from. You don't on the commitment that you see offensively as they do to defense. Where's the old school guys? Like worse. This new school of of coordinators to replace dick lebeau to replace a Dom Capers. I know you ain't replacing me. And that's and that's that's the facts. So I don't see those type coaches anymore on the defensive side. There's some good ones. But I don't see. Those kind of super like difference makers on the other side of the ball. It may be because in addition. Yeah. About people forget that Belgium was a defensive coach he's known for winning because he has a great quarterback. But he was defensive coach it may be because it has become evident to young football coaches at the ticket to being a head coach someday. Now as often put together a dynamic offense. That's what teams are looking for. If you want to become a head coach someday going up the defensive side of the ball may not be the way to do it that rainy, right? I as much as I want to disown my son. You know, he's now he's he's at assistant receiver coach quality control coach for the LA chargers. Okay. Yeah. He so he's an offense a coach what the hell my dad's probably rolling over in his grave knowing that my son is that. But you know, what in ten years? Let's see where he is. And and you know, I like I say my dad all he wanted. My brother night to do is be a little bit better than him. All I want is my son to be a little bit better than me. But I think he's going to get a lot more opportunities being an offense agai, then he would be defensive that is the reality listened. Rex Ryan is his such a delight have so enjoyed you know, again, I've always said the first thing I always have to do anyone who's ever the head. Coach of the jets is apologize for all the stuff. I yelled at the television. All the years. I did it with Herman. I did genie all of you wind up coming to ESPN. There you go. But it is such a delight for me to have you every week and to sit down and do this, and I very much. Appreciate it. This was wonderful. Thank you very much. All my pleasure greeny, and so that is our. Sation for this week with Rex Ryan. And if you have a moment at any point today or this week, I would ask you to take a moment to subscribe rate and review this podcast. It will only take a moment of your time. And it would help us out a lot please subscribe rate and review this podcast. I'm interested with Mike Greenberg. I will talk to you next week. Thanks so much for the time. Have a terrific.

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"Are you hiring with? Indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions, then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard. Get started today at indeed dot com slash podcast that's indeed dot com. Slash podcast. Get up on this Monday with that Prescott the Cowboys accept the challenge handling Eli in the giants what it means for both games plus Tom Brady down lake Bortles up who gets the credit who takes the blame for a decisive Jaguars win and a star is born in Kansas City. Patrick Mahomes the numbers are stunning. The football is II bopping. We'll show you what we mean. It's time to get up right now. For sure be cool. Told them after the game that I hate him, we just have to stay. Humble possibilities are endless road, is them. Sorry. John Chester's Mark. And we will get you to Sunday night football of a moment. But first our weekend takeaways and here comes mind. The scoreboard is going to say he didn't win, but that rookie isn't the reason team lost yesterday. Sam darnold was already the best player on his team, and I emerged from yesterday more optimistic, not less about the future of the jets rookie quarterback Jalen. How about you? I'm just so enthusiastic about one Patrick Mahomes. Remember on this program when we were doing quarterback tears, and they had him ranked, Mike Sando had him ranked thirty. I do, and I clearly said that he was going to like the league up and the way happy twenty third birthday, Patrick after doing sixteen yesterday. Guys, my we can take away. I'm so sorry. LSU. I'm sorry for doubting your. I'm sorry for thinking that you work real because you are still real after beating Auburn, add home, they are on a run that could be epic in the SEC west, and by the way, Alabama comes to that and Rouge in November, that's gonna be a showdown of epic proportions that Israel done. You know, sorry seems to be the hardest word most of the time, not today. That's very greeny and Jalen and Laura Rutledge here. So glad you woke up with us on this Monday Rex Ryan's on the way. Dan Orlovsky is here we've got a huge Sunday in the NFL to take you through. And let's start at the end in Dallas that Prescott has essentially been issued at challenge earlier in the week by Landon Collins and the giants. He said, the challenge was accepted and just over a minute into the game, he showed he wasn't kidding. Watch Landon Collins stepping up into the box before the play in Prescott. We're going to go play action here disea- and we're going up top for Tabei often six. Four yards in touch to north Jenkins beaten on the play. They're fired up the cowboy take a quick seven. Nothing lead in that was a statement right out of the shoot for Cowboys offense that had been much more kind of said the challenge accept it. I said, is I accepted it, but I can tell you I wasn't the only one who accepted that challenge. This team accepted that offense accepted it and we wanted to go out there and it's just so. But that was their offense. And then Rex Ryan, how about the defense here? Ally manning was ducking for his life all day long. Yeah. When I look at it, you know, obviously good game plan, you know pressuring Eli, but the giants we've said this before they have to be able to savage the running game and protect. You lie manning seems like it's a broken record for the last several years. So they got to get it fixed. Then right now, not at all. There's a three rusher their taco truck with a recovery of a fumble forced by Damian Wilson. The Cowboys defense six sacks eight quarterback hits. They have a thirteen nothing lead now under six minutes to go in the fourth, the Cowboys lead us thirteen to three and they're looking to put it away. And that's exactly what they do. Zeki Elliott taking into the house. He ran for seventy eight yards, giants tack on garbage time. Touchdown Cowboys went into twenty two thirteen Shurmur. What. He lies confident he's a pro and he battled throughout the game, and I thought he did a good job, but I do sense confidence. Yes. I sense. Confidence, I since confidence in Eli and he's a pro pump confident. I'm confident in the guys we have. I'm confident in myself and the players that we have. It's just a matter of guys this working together. That's why it's a team. It's not four guys or five guys. It's a all eleven guys. This isn't take to be successful and to fix this, is this all guys playing a little bit better. If you're a giant fan, I want you to avert your eyes. He lie was blitzed on eleven dropback last night and sack five times on those eleven plays. He was sacked five times against the blitz all of last year. So Rex Ryan again, you heard him now you can see him. So a lot of the criticism is going to be on Eli manning today, and there's all this attention focused on them now because they drafted Barclay and chose to stay with the, is it allies fall what you were seeing right now? Absolutely not no doubt to me. It starts with protection and that's what it is. Whether you got to bring in a six offense, alignment, keep extra guys in there. Whatever it is you gotta figure. There's free runners at him. He couldn't set up in thrown in time and look li- understands pressure and all that. Then he makes a mistake. He tried to sink a couple of times, but that shows me that he kind of laxed confidence in that offense align and it's not just the line. It's the scheme. You've got to find ways get more guys in protect them. Because you've got great players. You got Dell back them. You got Barclay and you got Ingram. So you got three really good players, but we gotta find a way to protect the quarterback so you can get him to fuck what does it say if there they blitz eleven times and they get five of those times, what does that say about what's going on? The offense means they have no respect for the for your protection and they're coming actress and it's not. It's not just ally or whatever could be anybody back there so that you've got a clear you've got, you've got to clean up the protection first period. I I watched Jacksonville play yesterday in an earlier spot. I actually tweeted if I'm a giant fan right now. I feel pretty good about myself because they looked better against that Jacksonville defense than New England did for most of the day and go out with that performance last night. That was a statement win for the Cowboys in the division. Well, it was. And when you look at it, I think would Dallas that my big concern was their offense. I mean, they were a horrendous week one. I mean they had eighteen and you have to win on first down to to stay on schedule. It's the most. Thing. Bill Walsh taught me that you know from an offense of affective, but the they had, you know, you lose second in long eighteenth straight times last week, this week, just the opposite. So they're able to to do a better job and I down control the situation, much better. All right. So it was a dominating performance in a statement win for the Cowboys and division game that they desperately need. Laura. I mentioned New England, Jacksonville, and that was a very interesting game in an earlier slot yesterday. Yeah, the AFC championship rematch right there and Tom Brady getting ready to go for this one jacket off guys. It was a little warm. So he said, I don't need the jacket. I'm just going to one hundred ten degrees. Warm. It was all about the Jags though after that early first quarter, Blake Bortles lobbing it up to Keelan co making the absurd. One handed grab Raxit. That's pretty dec-. It's not all bad. Revenues. Ridiculous touchdown to steal del cat. I'm gonna make a hot take care. It might be better than Odell honestly, because he reached out a little further. Here's Brady in the fourth quarter. He's trying to get something going. And actually this is later in the first excuse me, not on the same page with Kevin HOGAN, and he's livid on the sideline. You can see him right there. His date would not in through chuckled from Rex because you know that type of leadership. But he's also laying into guys Brady in the fourth quarter trying to mount the comeback here down. Eleven any sacked by Dante. Fowler junior, go, Gators Jags would take over the game with a chance to to gain here and later in the fours Bortles finding Dede Westbrook. He runs up the sideline that's sixty one yards to the house sealing the game. Jags win early one to twenty years. Blake, Bortles listening. I've never really looked at it like that as far as beaten, Tom Brady, you know, I don't play against him. We played against their defense and he plays ours. But you know, you know, for sure be cool. You know he's no doubt hall of Famer to say that I'm the stay. We'd be Tom ready, you know, it's a lot of little things, but little things all that up, Matt up to a Lawson, feel Bros and gotta go back home and do a lot better job. Rex, how to Blake Bortles outduel, Tom Brady, and this one, he actually looked like Tom Brady and that game any well, I think part of it is obviously. I think when you look at New England's defense, you know, first off Bella check, get back in and start coaching because you guys cover crosser I, it was unbelievable. Just some low crossers. You got to do a hell of a lot better job than that. But I mean he did throw promos, four hundred yards and four touchdowns this Blake Bortles not Tom Brady, and so that was impressive to me because otherwise, honestly, without internet and with the football. How many times did he run for critical? Well, that's what he does, and you gotta know that going in like you, you need to have your your pass, rush games, everything. No one that Bortles the best thing he does. A lot of times is run. So to me, those are things that were critical errors. But, hey, we've seen this before week to I always wanted to play New England week to why just because I don't think they've had their team, you know sitting there and he doesn't have. He doesn't exactly know all this personalities or anything else. And so it gives them time to step on it, but you might. Call a. we beat them. We don't beat them much, but when we did beat him, it was like week two. So well, you mentioned too. They're trying to figure out some of these guys as offensively for he will get Sony Michelle, but he's a little Rhody proven. Why? Why do the lack of weapons affect him? Well, I look at it this way. It's finally caught up to them. Yeah. I mean, when you when you go against a great defensive football team like Jacksonville, your three, we mentioned, it's a AFC championship rematch yet is without your three top receivers, you know you had where's? Where's the on? Louis always not there. That's right. He's in Tennessee. Okay. Now you're, you know, you miss Dollah you know, all these guys Brandin cooks, they're all gone. So he throw into, I'm sorry, nobody. So you've got gronkowski and that's about it. And so when he's looking at, you can see the frustration, you know, with Brady, but I also think it's a clear message and if you're gonna lose, you lose early, but those guys better get on point when he rips Chris, HOGAN. You know what? No, it's not good enough. You're have. You have to be here and by, gosh, that's the way this team gets better, but it was a scary loss because I think it showed that you know what, if finally might be catching up to them to the Jags by the I know you, I didn't because I just refuse to picking new. So every time I picked the game and they were involved, I wind up being wrong. They will get Ataman back and is week to huge. Will they look like the usual, patriots Brady offense by week ten? Yes, they will. I think they will. And just because you do get Ataman back, Josh mcdaniels as a heck of a job, there are no. Nobody likes Josh because he, you know, he did whatever. And the head coach the guys great, great coach until his ballot check. So they'll get it figured out, but they need to or they're going to get. They're not going to beat this team Sony Michelle, by the way, big time weapon in canned flex out the white receiver so they can use them in that way in their offense. We're just getting started. Those were two of the many very interesting at games of the day, the performance of the day from this kid ten touchdowns in two weeks. Incredible. How. Exactly as Patrick Mahomes doing. It will go to the touchscreen and break it down. Plus Aaron Rodgers able to lead the Packers offense on one good leg. But it was another leg that let Green Bay down that has Rex Ryan angry on how he would fix the kicking academic as we continue on get up next. Get up is brought to you by Geico. Fifteen minutes could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. All right. This is ridiculous. I don't even know what to say about what Patrick Mahomes done to start this season chiefs in Pittsburgh. Yesterday we're going to pick this up in the third quarter, which is overlooking the fact that he had thrown three touchdowns in the first. And then here we go again, it's Mahomes again this time to Travis. Kelsey. That's Mahomes. Fourth touchdown of the day chiefs had jumped out to a Twenty-one. Nothing lead Pittsburgh came all the way back now we got it back and forth game James, Connor fighting his way in here to tie the game at twenty eight. Connor continues to put up very big numbers in the absence of levian bell. But in the ensuing drive, it has Patrick Mahomes voting on MVP of the league for two weeks it with no question, be Patrick Mahomes another touchdown order. Now just inside the thirty yard line in Mahomes finding the ridiculously fast hiree kill who's going to walk in for the touchdown. Mahomes sixth touchdown pass of the day ten through two weeks chiefs win forty two thirty seven and you never have ten touchdowns at this point in the season, but I knew what this often. And the weapons that we had in the scheme coach reads drawing up that we had a chance to be really, really good and that the possibilities are endless. I mean, we could really come out every single we can do and score points. It's all about me getting the ball into those playmakers hands and you saw today, they're breaking tackles and scoring points. There are lots key here with us to just tell us a little more about why Patrick Mahomes is so good nearly six hundred yards through the year. Greenie mentioned the tin touchdowns no interceptions he continues to do well, but why is it more Dan? Not just about making all the throws more about the way that he does that. Let's go to touch screen and show because again playing there's a difference between being the thrower and playing quarterback, sometimes playing quarterbacks, changing tempo. It's not this can make every throw watch tyreek hill at the bottom of our screen right here. He's just going to run a go route right here. Okay. And you always hurt people to make every throw that doesn't matter make the appropriate throat. I love the tempo on this ball that Mahomes takes debt, just a little tempo, not every boat needs to be drilled a little bit of temple that tyreek hill making a judgment huge play, but this is the play that really stood out to me watching yesterday. So Pittsburgh's defense is in a cover to this safeties job is you have to stay higher than the highest. In whiter than the whitest as an offensive guy. So you've got to have some fear. We'll Andy Reid knows that they're going to take that tyreek hill guy with ridiculous speed and put him on a go route that that Pittsburgh safety knows it. So he knows, okay, I've got an issue with speed outside of me. Patrick Mahomes knows it as well. Watch what he does with his is right there. Look where he's staring. His eyes are staring down at tyreek hill. Moving this safety now, why did enough or Chelsea's going to have the much bigger window down the middle of the field? We'll bring it to the back. England showed even better. Just a little things he's doing. This is not normal for young kid playing in this league and I'll freeze it. Look see where his eyes are. There, peaking all the way outside. Tyreek hill Chelsea's down here tells he's running this scene down here. That's where Calcio's. So tyreek hill, the speed on outside Andy Reid. Puts him out there and then Patrick Mahomes Mary's, the speed using his is the right way opening windows for guys down the field. He's playing at such a high level. People wondered when he was coming out of college if he'd be able to compete in the NFL, I didn't have a lot of protection around him there. We're seeing that vision just as you talked about in what do we think greenie about his long term potential in the NFL as we send it back over to you and wreck. I mean, I don't even know how you could possibly overstate what we're seeing from the kid right now. Patrick Mahomes I said it in the highlight if you were to be voting on MVP right now, it would be somewhat premature, but it would also be this kid. What are you seeing in the twenty three years old today? Yeah. No. I mean in, I think I agree with the kid to he's talking about, you know, being Andy Reid system and he's talking about all the playmakers that he has. But the thing that I notice about him, that's the most impressive is poise like this guy. He gets it and he knows that I can deliver the ball to everybody else, but he's standing back there and you don't see a young quarterback you to see a tremendous quarterback. And I think that's speaks volumes of young kid. They're the most explosive offense in the league. By far, are they give you some more highlights here, Browns and saints. Cleveland looking for its first win and over six hundred days and all the chances that they had down five final two minutes on a fourth down play. Tyrod Taylor is going to throw it up and watching Tonio Calloway. He didn't see this in the game. They look at this play on a fourth down at the end. It's gonna give Cleveland a chance to win. They're going to take a one point lead on the on the extra point known. Oh, no. Zane Gonzales. His third missed kick of the day we remain tied to overtime. We go drew Brees leading the saints. Downfield will lutts a rare sight yesterday, a field goal going between the uprights at three point lead Taylor now giving the Browns a chance to come back. Remember overtime now appeal doesn't end the game immediately. So it's consolidate again too. The Browns who had a change of going, oh, and sixteen wind up losing twenty one eighteen in heartbreaking fashion with the kickers speaking of which Minnesota Green Bay and a critical game NFC north and there's Aaron Rodgers. He's gonna play with the knee, and there's Kirk cousins and a huge statement game in the division. Fourth quarter Packers are leading by eight Vikings, airing it out, visit interception that should end the game, but hold on a minute. They're going to call Matthews on this play for roughing the quarterback. I'm not sure exactly what in the world expected him to do. It's an absolutely terrible call and it leads to this. The game would have been over in the other direction. But instead somehow this gets through to Phelan who's in for the touchdown Vikings, get another chance. They convert a two point conversion and we're tied at twenty nine Raja's with a chance to win in regulation. He's looking for Jimmy, Graham. We're gonna moving pretty well back there Rogers despite that name, then he finds Graham thirty five yards before stepping out of bounds Packers have a chance to win it in regulation Vikings what ice Mason Crosby who had made the first try. And then of course he misses the second at ends regulation. We take you to overtime now final seconds of the overtime, and it's the rookie Daniel Colson of the Vikings from thirty five yards away with a chance to win it. And can you believe this? So this game ends at a twenty nine, twenty nine type more missed kicks entering the giants and Cowboys. There had been nineteen mistakes, cakes including field goals and extra points yesterday that was tool away from tying for the most kicks in a single week since the extra point was moved back in twenty fifteen. And as I come back with Rex here sheet of paper, this is all the field goals that were missed yesterday by kicker. So now you're a head coaching. I mean, you got one job to do like and that that's it. You. You got to kick a football like home, my God and these, here's your practice get all right. They'll kick off a few. They'll go and they'll, they'll hang out a few field goals, whatever. Then they'll be in there and watching soap operas like what he got, what kind of meetings you got, this is the only job you've got and it's unbelievable. It's not acceptable. And when you have look, I've had some good kickers. I also had one where we missed like six or seven extra points one year and it's just like like, like I'm at fault for saying something to the kicker. I shouldn't have said anything that are you concerned anything right in concert, but this is ridiculous. And that guy right there. He's finding, you know, get him on a greyhound home. He ain't coming back with it. If you're the Cleveland kicker, like you missed an extra point in two field goals. Oh, my goodness. Dr Ukraine, you know, who's sitting home right now waiting for Dan Bailey. He's only like one of the most. Accurate kickers and they history. So the kickers are inside watching soap operas. Is that your assessment to you? They do, they, they watch them. There you have. It was a disappointing day in a lot of ways. Again, the Browns had so many. There's that guy when you're playing the way Ryan Fitzpatrick is playing, you can wear anything you want, but his performance is actually brought up a really interesting question. We'll get the answer right after. When it comes to hiring, you don't have time to waste. You need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot com. Post a job in minutes, set up screener questions, then zero in on qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard, and when you need to hire fast exhilarated your results with sponsor jobs, new users can try for free at indeed dot com slash podcast that's indeed dot com. Slash podcast, terms conditions and quality standards apply. The eagles in the buccaneers yesterday, the defending champs against Ryan fits magic, who would get the better of that. It would be the quarterback. This is the first play from scrimmage. Look at the screen is fifteen minutes left in the first quarter. Sean accent, his former team, seventy five yards to the house. Exactly right Jalen against the eagles and the bucks at a quick seven. Nothing lead and Fitzpatrick was just getting started. He started the first half that way. He ended the first half this way. Final minute of the second quarter Fitzpatrick to Chris Goodwin. That's a touchdown. The bucks win twenty seven twenty one fits magic. Talk to me. It's nothing. I mean, I think we just have to stay humble. We gotta make sure we know how to handle success and all those things. So we can't change who we are. How many carrots do you think are around your really heavy? It's really heavy. TJ. I got like two more because he needs this stuff. Yeah, I borrowed your stuff. Sorry. I just is mine. Hey, hey, hilarious, hilarious. Be separated at birth from Conor McGregor. Am I the only one mean. The only one. I thought that too, but three most important if your Jameis Winston and I've seen stories out there that Chaim has texted the receivers after the game saying, awesome job guys. If you're making the decisions on that team, James Winston to step back in as the starter when he comes back like everything, everybody's going to say that because he's your franchise quarterback, but no way in hell. Are you going to put them in there? This kid right here Fitzpatrick I don't care. He's thrown Eastone for eight hundred yards. Eight touchdowns and you're gonna bench him. There's no way you can bench him into me. Oh, by the way they played the two best teams in the NFC by in most people's I the saints and eagles and you got wins over both. There's no chance you're doing that you're going to ride this and when is it going to last whole season? Maybe not, but you're going to write it as long as you can Jalen if it was one thing that I know about Fitzpatrick is that the locker rooms always love him. His teammates, love him. When you saw a little glimpse of why they're how do you imagine that's playing in the locker room right now? Because we know what Winston is. Football team, and I liked the way he used his harbor intellect in a different manner. It's one thing to throw for eight hundred yards and to be to ano into kind of floundered a radar. He put it out there so it it now his teammates can't embrace him in a way that they have not embraced James publicly. When you look at their schedule, you felt like they probably were struggle coast, just acknowledging for them to win both of those games. And then him walk to the podium with d. Jack's Garo with the chains on to make him wanted to fell us. That was a genius move right now. We're all we are all the three of us agree that people here are Laskey is shaking his head out of get over here. Well, I'm a clear Comrie. I'm a career backup. I saw I am Fizi not not in playing as long as he has type thing but fits. He's had a great run. It's remarkable what he's done, but we know how this story ends with fifty. At the same time. We know that the fits magic will revert back to Fitz Patrick the the thing that's happening right now is this is where fifties at his string playing in net backup that spot starter. But you played for a couple of games played a high level. There's not a ton of tape on you and then teams figures you out. He's not a long-term start of teams have tried that. He's just one of the high end backups in this league, but to stay with them as long as the hand remains hot, you're talking about going back to James week four regardless even they play Pittsburgh next Monday night, even if it's Patrick plays another great game, you're making this, which back immediately. Absolutely. One. James had a really good year last year. It wasn't like James didn't have a good football season last year to you have to figure out what you have. Have this is an important year to figure out is Jamie's your fruit, the franchise, the future of your franchisor, not you know, fits isn't. You know if you're three and and the quarterback is there's no. With factor goes down? Yeah. When his stats go down is when the play around him goes down his receivers. You know, when he had decker and Brandon Marshall when they were healthy, that team was up here. You had had the jets almost in the playoffs. They ran into a buzz on the bills, but you know what's funny when when those guys play went down those guys get injured, his place going to go down. You gotta give this guy a chance right now. I think look, James Winston, I think, is a hell of a quarterback, but your jobs not just to put the whole season out on the his development. Let's see how he develops. You're trying to win right now. You're that head coach, you're, you're out of there unless you make the playoffs. But the only reason that head coach is there is because James Winston, I understand coach, he's been in the league too long for me to be still trying to figure that out. At this point. We have to leave this here a minute, but we will get back to what. But Laura I'm told has something very significant Laura. Why do you have? I mean, I can't believe. Thirty minutes. Not at a full on Sam darnold jets discussion. And here's the thing greedy actually finally got his hands on darnold jersey. So we've gotta just take this in for all of its glory. It's beautiful. You look great by the way green. I think that's your color. Great guys, let let's talk a little bit though. Everywhere everyone is going about the two interceptions in the loss of the dolphins. Yesterday people talking about that. He did though, throw for three hundred thirty four yards completed sixty one percent of his passes. So when we think about that and I was just with the jets, they talked a lot about the fact that he does not make the same mistake twice. What's the takeaway off of his second NFL start. Let's ask you guys what the takeaway is off of his second bit because you're talking about how young Mahomes as he's Twenty-three today a year from today. Darnold we'll still be younger than that. I let me hear from you. What did you see Donald yesterday, I was high on them, come into the draft high on them after week one, and I'm up here after week to me to the Poisy plays with the accuracy off schedule place. I mean the first interception learning experience. The second interception is one hundred percent on throw prior. And I believed to real priors come out and said as well, but just the throat, the accuracy that he throws with is rare in sometimes greenie in the NFL you watch a guy and you go. Oh, I know sometimes you just know watching a guy in a small window going, that dude is special. Sam darnold is special. I want to ask you to special question because one of them have stakes tease making the NFL is paying somebody to be a franchise quarterback that doesn't lift the people around them. So when you say Sam darnold a special, do you mean he's going to be? Excuse me, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady drew Greece Basho. Yes. Or is he going to be Matthew Stafford, Derek Carr. Splash. Can't believe you just dog your Detroit boy like that. He. Tony Romo Ben Rothlisberger Aaron Rodgers special because when you can be accurate, like he is without having to be perfect around you, that's transcendent. He's got transcended traits that everybody around him will play better because of it. You know the most very fresh agreeing. The most impressive thing I saw number one he should've thrown for over four hundred yards. Yep, but the drop by the tight end. And then prior most impressive thing to me was what prior said prior stood up for a twenty one year old quarterback when guys it doesn't happen that way and no one, he's going to take the heat why he did it to the let people know that. No, we have the franchise quarterback here and it was on me. I I applied prior for doing it, but it showed me a lot more about what this team. Thanks and he played a position. Jersey with pride wherever they have to think about the jets game is really important. They lost now. It's hard to win in this league. Talk about our. We got Russell Wilson that Seahawks Chicago to take on Khalil Mack. We believe. Began simulcast in Spanish on ESPN two, and it's on the ESPN app. So you can watch from anywhere with the coverage starting at six o'clock with Monday night countdown. So that's tonight. Saturday. It was all about the college game. Week, a college football, and let's look at the AP top twenty five. The biggest winner LSU jump from number twelve to number six after huge road win at Auburn. The biggest drop coming from Wisconsin win from number six to number eighteen with their home loss to unranked BYU. That was a big shocker that same four teams main in the top four spots with Alabama still at number one, but Georgia and Clemson flip-flop at two and three Ohio State remains in the fourth spot after their win over TCU. And speaking of the buckeyes yesterday marked the official end of urban Meyer's three game suspension. The university suspended Meyer after its investigation into his handling of former assistant Zack Smith in an exclusive interview Meyer sat down with Tom Rinaldi to discuss the domestic violence allegations made by Courtney Smith, what he says he knew about them and what he says he did about them also how he responds to the folks. The investigation found in how he addressed those allegations. Here's part one from Myers interview with Tom, Rinaldi. Very clear on my view of life on my view of people and domestic violence is at the forefront. I can't stand won a seat. I can't stand what I hear it for for anyone at this university to believe that urban Meyer would turn his back on domestic violence. I need to leave. So it's very clear my stance on domestic violence. I was not suspended for that. I was suspended because I mismanaged a very troubled employees. They went too far to help him according to the investigation. Late fall, twenty fifteen. Late fall, twenty fifteen. Courtney Smith shared her allegations of abuse with your wife, Shelly, including a number of photographs, Shelly called the police department seeking more information and it's reported. She texted back saying in parts, urban, I am praying for you. I know the truth just want you to be safe. Do you have restraining order? He scares me. Why do you shake your head. The first time I heard of those texts were just recently in the last month because Shelley not share those text messages with me. What did she share with you about the allegations of abuse? Nothing about allegations, give us. It was about her. She's very compassionate person. And like I said, her reason is reasoning. I do recall about her concern about the children and very messy, divorce. It was going on. What is her reasoning to the best that you can state it and share it? I'm sorry, Thom, I just once again. I don't. I don't want to speak on behalf of Shelley and and I don't want to disrespect anybody involved in the families that are involved. Courtney Smith says you chose to help the abuser and to enable the abuser. What's your response to that breaks? My heart. I didn't hear that until just now. That's. I apologize that she believes that that's never been my intent. My intent was to try to help all involved the only way that I knew how at the time I choice fire firemen and really put a family in people financially, etc. Or try to stabilize someone so he can go up and be good father. Coming up next hour on get up. We've premier part two from urban Meyer's exclusive interview. You'll see a right here. I, as he answered questions about the Ohio State investigation his suspension, what his message is now to Courtney Smith and others see returns to the buckeyes plus we'll welcome Paul finebaum engine. Discuss what we heard urban Meyer say sportscenter was Scott van pelt tonight after Monday night football on ESPN, he'll have live reaction in analysis from Seahawks bears. Plus he takes you inside Khalil max. I home game in Chicago and the worst feet of the weekend. Of course, sportscenter with SAP eleven thirty eastern eight thirty on the ESPN app. And of course streaming live on the app. Never seen it ever pop Warner, high-school college pros, never heard of it. Never seen it, and it's just completely disrespecting that is Lorenzo Alexander if you don't know what he's talking about and you have not yet heard this story. You're not going to believe it details next. Get a look easy. Take that right. Patrick Mahomes had a Sunday to remember. We're just gonna continue to talk about him because he deserves that throwing six touchdown passes in his second career start, but was that performance something we will be talking about, come December greenie, please bring us your fundamental. Yes. So the idea of the fundamentalist for this morning is sometimes too. It's very difficult to figure out which things really matter in which things will long since forgotten. Here are five things from yesterday that we will be remembering in December. And at number five, it's the Cleveland Browns. They are no longer the worst team in the National Football League, not even close. The easily could have in probably should have won both games. They played this year. They were a minute away from being, oh, and sixteen being a real possibility. They're going to win multiple games this year. The bills are way worse than they are. The cardinals are way worse than they are. The Browns are our as improved as everyone is below according to football power index, they're seventeen. Worse than the Brown? Yeah. The jets. Broncos the raiders couldn't wait for our knows the bills, and I hate to say the line. Yeah, the Browns actually play number four is Mattie ice and here's the deal, Matt Ryan. Had you sit back and listen for the last two, everyone's talking about how bad he is over paid. He is an all of this garbage and you know what? He showed everybody yesterday. Hey, guys, I'm still Mattie ice. He threw two touchdowns in the red zone, which everyone wreck said he couldn't do anymore. Matt Ryan is still one of the best players in the national football years. And you look at it too with this the MVP the league, two years ago wreck. And so I don't think he's lost it all of a sudden, but what I liked the best is when he decides you'd want. I'm Cam Newton to outrun to these real good athlete and and he was impressed with number three is Patrick Mahomes. And of course he would be number one at any other list if it weren't for two huge outcomes yesterday, but Patrick Mahomes Shoji yesterday he's not just good. He's a legitimate candidate. The the league in vis his second season. He's his numbers are going to be that high pop coast due to Kansas City Chiefs have more weapons than any team. We can recently remember like they have them in the backfield in the slot. Radio show. I think. I mean, it's it's as good a group is there is and and you know, like Kelsey, he's a match up nightmare. He'll with the speed, and by the way we just going to throw in Sammy Watkins who I never had a first round, pick costs to number one. So thank you very much. Sammy leaving. And by the way, great quarterback forget they have the league's leading rusher from year ago is the Packers Vikings tie. And to me, this is a game that we will be remembering in December, and we'll be talking about this call. This is might be the biggest play of the season. The notion that that was a penalty claim Hughes is inexplicable and inexcusable and it winds up costing the Packers win. They wind up in a tie game yesterday, and if the Packers wind up missing out on the playoffs or the division or home field, that a game by half a game, which is a very real possibility considering how tight that division looks. You're gonna remember that play in December. Let me get to my number one because it is Jacksonville did yesterday. Against New England. And if you're watching the beginning of the show rextall Jim, you wanna play New England early, the patriots will get better. They will look better. But here's why say this is the number one thing to remember because Jacksonville is that good and this result could wind up meaning that a playoff matchup between these two teams is in Jacksonville and not Foxborough Rex, you know how different and the other thing is who's Jacksonville's best player on offense by the way never played in the game. So watch out. It's not just Eshelman not plan for for knowing wing land for net will also be back there. So to me, this team, I mean, I picked them last year. I thought they were the biggest threat to New England and they still are his name. Blake, Bortles, four touchdown passes like Tom Brady how I still talk. I'm not buying it and I'm not buying list of the five most. Things. In the NFL. Now we get to the strangest story of the day train one of the street of stories of all time, bills cornerback vantera Davis retired at halftime of yesterday's thirty one to twenty loss to the chargers he played in the first half. It was not on the sideline for the second half. He chose to retire from football in the middle of the game. Here's the way some of his teammates in particular Lorenzo Alexander reacted. Never seen it ever pop Warner, high-school college pros, never heard of it. Never seen it, and it's just completely disrespecting went to his teammate and he say better anybody today saying that nobody you left when you know as much as I know. I know I found out going into second half of the game coming out city said he's not coming out. He retired. So so volunteer Davis released a statement on Instagram saying, this isn't how I pictured retiring, but reality hit me fast that I shouldn't be out there anymore. I meant no disrespect to my teammates or coaches Rex, if you're one of his coaches, oh my God get the hell out of here. I mean, that's the thing when he had informed Sean McDermott and I can just see Shawn's like jaw hit the floor, and I'm sure he's just like what the hell. Like I've been involved in football my life and not at one time. Look, a lot of things go back and guys a loser stinger a little bit, but you know, you bench him, you try to bring them back or whatever, but this is a joke. You don't quit in in for him. Not think he was disrespectful to his teammates that are fighting their butts off and everything else. I mean, it is the ultimate disrespect. I think in look, you're going to quit quit on Monday. It's it's an embarrassment and you know what? He can't play anymore. I get. This is a classic example of when you invest in playing in the team sport, you have to leave a part of me at home when you come into a locker room at fifty, three other men, they're sacrificing near getting beat as well. He didn't just retire. You mentioned it. He quit. Now there's another way to look at this. If you one of his teammates. He could have waited too after the game, play terrible in the second half and it took his game check right. Would you leave at halftime? You don't get paid for that game green. So in theory, he didn't take care of either side. He just kinda just up and left high. Did you know that by the way, is that actually written into contracts paying attention that the higher. Halftime. Is that something that has ever been addressed before? But. There's no way to look at this thing and not say to yourself if they're winning in this game, if they don't look like the worst team in the NFL. Is there any chance in hell he retires at two and the answer is obviously no, and you know the thing that's really sad those you see the Renzo Alexander, they have some real pros on that team. You know, Kyle Williams and different guys. A lot of the better gonna play their butts off all within the end. Yeah, it's not going well right now, but you know what? They're going to man up and this is going to get better because of it. You watch what happens if he thinks that is this guy has had a very long respectable, very respected career. This is going to be one of the strangest endings that sticks with him. No matter what he says beat went and big d for the Cowboys last night to that mean, the problems have been solved for Dak in Dallas. We say not so fast, and you'll hear why next on ghetto. When it comes to hiring, you don't have time to waste. You need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot com. 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Hour 1: Hall Pass Denied

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Hour 1: Hall Pass Denied

"What's going on? I take Sam listening to the podcast. Check us out live and Atlanta for Super Bowl week where at the Atlanta convention center, special guests giveaways catches January thirtieth thirty first and February first doors open at eight thirty am local time, it is all free. Lots of head today. Marian Rivera leads the whole fame class while Barry Bonds, and Roger Clemens get denied less a-rod. If he and other players linked to steroids will ever get in the hall, plus build running back with John McCoy's and studio whole addresses domestic violence allegations and his NFL future and can the Rams defensive line shutdown Tom Brady and the Super Bowl. Let's get started. Tom day. Let's go not everybody. I still have not not as good as the Campbell's commercials, Stephen Smith, Mexico Herman. I'm Molly Carrim welcome into. I take. Thank you for hanging with us, fellows, how we feel in on this Wednesday. All right. Let's do it ABC always be closing the greatest closer of all time. Maryono Rivera became the first player ever to be unanimously elected to the hall of fame. The late ROY holiday at grimmer tina's and Mike Mussina Olso revoted in huge congrats to everybody -ducted much deserved. This though to players who didn't get in Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens who both received fifty nine percent. Sixteen percent short of the seventy five needed for induction Steve Knight. Starring with you here should Roger Clemens at Barry Bonds, be voted into the hall of fame. Roger Clements should not Barry Bonds, should and I don't take this position. Max do statistics Thisiis statistically speaking in terms of their level of production on the field. There is no question in my mind that both a hall of things I think that Roger Clemens is. You know is is shaky and Tom's in know because obviously the drug use it or what have you that? We allude to PD's we get all of that. I think that he's not is sure fire as Barry Bonds. But I think when you talk about seven Cy Young awards, it's undeniable, and plus he's a champion. So we gotta give credit what credit is doing. That regard. To mean. It's comes out to this situation. Just personal has nothing to do with. What what what? Anybody else wants to bring up about baseball. I think about dairy bombs, and I think about how Mark Maguire was so celebrated and the whole whole run chase and the game of shadows. And and how Mark than Rwanda and and Williams and those boys alluded to an excerpts the Sports Illustrated. If I remember correctly how? Bob was essentially jealous because he was in route to all of fame until he saw these guys getting the alkaloids that they receive and said, oh, so it doesn't matter. You know, that I'm a thirty for thirty guy doesn't matter that I still basis that you know, that I hit percentage wise that I sit up there and I hit home runs. I hit doubles I hit singles. I it doesn't matter that I'm a gold glove at none of that matters. Because I'm smacking roads. So he started doing supposedly purportedly he started doing what ultimately he was doing with the cream and the clear and all of that stuff. All right to me that is entirely different than a guy like Roger Clements who was into retirement, nobody was bothering you. You would ever they were. They were preoccupied with other stuff, and you and your idiotic self sat up there and dared dead these people to subpoena. You dare these people to bring you the Capitol Hill, Dan, these people that want to have some kind of investigation to find out whether or not you were. BDU's? I think Roger Clements should be banned from the hall of fame for shifts bidding that has been my position for years. I have held onto the years, and I will never change in that regard. Because unlike others nobody was bothering Roger Clements he brought that on himself. And that is my position with him with with Barry Bonds, obviously, I feel differently before I get into them. I just want to say about Mariana Rivera. Congratulations E R A plus adjusted ERA just for ballpark in Arizona to kind of level it to your as a consistent stat of all pitchers in the history of baseball with over one thousand innings pitched he has the lowest meaning inning fronting is the best of all time. Right. Was it like point seven it? No. It was it's in the low twos. Postseason ERA over one hundred forty innings pitched is one third that's point seven. That's just regular. So the best ever inning fronting in the history of baseball. When you needed him most got three times better. Even though he was only pitching an inning or two at a time. There's a very good argument. He's the greatest. Pitcher who ever lived, congratulations. Tomorrow. Honor Rivera the first unanimously selected hall of Famer and his well deserved. I'm so glad it's him now, bonds and McGuire. I know you have a certain point to make about that. So let me just say this, Molly, Stephen a lot of people seem to struggle with this topic of bonds in McGuire. And it's it's sorry bonds and Clemens gonna get them of wiring Sosa in the second bonds and Clements a lot of people struggle with this issue. And I this is so clear cut to me. It's so obvious that I think the only way to handle this is to make me in charge. I will make all the decisions about this. Because apparently everyone else in the world that's a hard time. This is so simple. It is totally obvious. When these guys started juicing, oh, you can't say started using its allegedly report. Let me physical evidence. In other words, the guy puts on thirty pounds of lean muscle mass in too short, a time his forehead expands and then his home run to at bat ratio. Doubles at an age where everyone else in history has declined physical evidence is much more compelling than. Direct evidence sometimes over seat from belco. You can forge a receipt from Vacco. You can't forge thirty pounds of lean muscle mass and doubling your home run rate. Okay. We know exactly. When these guys started using Clements was in the Klein was still -ffective pitcher. But no longer the dominant great pitcher of the American League after he'd won three Cy youngs. When he signed a deal in Toronto. And then one back toback pitching triple crowns wins ERA and strikeouts. He was the dominant pitcher in the American League in maybe better than he'd ever been in Toronto. All of a sudden his fastball. The everything's back for Roger Clements. How did that happen duck? Right. Barry bonds. You're right. Stephen, Brian Kenny, and I who now does MLB network have Brian Kenny can Friday night fights on ESPN two. And during commercial breaks at time too. Big baseball fans, we think geeking out we like damn isn't it a shame that bonds missed the steroids era. Look at what these other guys are doing. He's still is good as there. But he's not hitting the home runs bonds, and as usual. He got hurt. And then coming back from injury. You start to see him put up on base percentages guys. Not in the high source because he was one of the greatest in the fives. He wants had an on base percentage. Once he started using over sixty percent of the six hundred slugging over eight hundred hit. Okay. So how does this all out up to whether or not they belong in the hall of fame? It's very clear since you know, exactly when they started juicing you'd have to you have to be a fool not to see it were they hall of famers when they started juicing. Yes. Or no with bonds. It is clear. He was a first ballot. No doubt one of the three or four greatest left fielders in history hall of Famer, Ted Williams. Stan Musial Rickey Henderson Barry Bonds. He's in. It's a joke. Not the put them in. Once he started juicing. He became the greatest hitter who ever lived better even than Babe Ruth. He didn't need that to be in the hall of fame. Roger Clemens was a borderline hall of Famer once he got to Toronto. So that's your judgment, call take what he did until Toronto and say is that hall of Famer I would actually say, yes. In the way, ROY Ray ROY halladay as a hall of Famer he won three side. He was always up there and Cy Young voting. It wasn't a very long career at that point. But it was dominant borderline on Clements. I would lean toward yes. On him based on what he'd already accomplished guys, this ain't that hord. Well, well, listen, it's never been hard for me. But my position is very very clearly has she in Boston. Roger Clemens was ten to thirteen RA live around three six, but he let me to strike out very next year in Toronto twenty one and seven ERA of to you just sit there looking at it when this happened. So obviously the timetable that your point now absolutely accurate right on point. Because that's what we were looking at Roger Clemens is saying what the hell is going on. We have never looked at Barry Bonds at any point in his career and questioned whether or not he was a future hall of fame. Never we've never looked at it from day one. We watched this brother perform, and we knew eat I'm talking about before. Like, you said the terms of the time, you know, Tom. I wanna hold of famous does. A time when it came to him as a home run hitter, which obviously has taken about PD's, but clearly was no issue with him as a hall of fame talent. So I'll look at it from that. But in the end, I'm also looking at a guy that ever that they will in what other people doing, etc. Etc. And they didn't sit there. And excel this by us, and I'm also looking at the fact that again, this guy is running from it and you harassing him Roger Clements, literally defiant. Everybody went up on Capitol Hill with elected officials, embarrassing us as Americans doing everything they can get a photo op within for crying. He's on Capitol Hill going office to offer that and they were sitting there pursuant him. Now, I want to take pictures with. I wanted to do when they went out to quite wanted to get into this before we get out. So I said I was gonna talk about McGwire and Sosa people who would say and Dan Shaughnessy who does who worked with on around the horn love, Dan. But he and he said, basically, if you've cheated you're disqualified, I really disagree with that lots of players have cheated throughout the history of baseball corking. Pat's throwing spitballs and they're in the hall of fame. Right. It's not just about whether you not you cheated made the wrong ethical choice. Many people have it's what's the efficacy of the cheating. How effective was it? Did it turn you fundamentally into something you weren't McGuire and soci- you could see exactly when it started? It turn them into things. They could have never otherwise been the answer is no on them. And they weren't hall of famers. When it started battery bonds got turned into something fundamentally he wasn't the greatest hitter by far of all time, even better than Ruth or anyone else. But he was already clearly a hall of Famer for everyone on us questions. Well, it just because it's not just hire cheating. It's what did the do? We got a commercial break in Alex Rodriguez. A rod will be here later. We'll get into this with him. Ask him a lot of questions. It'll be interesting conversation both Clements and bonds have three years left of eligibility on their hall of fame. Ballot. With your sports center right now, I'm Trevor skills as much as folks wanna talk about change in overtime rules after the chiefs lost in the AFC championship. Casey looked at one area that they could control to make a change that defense two days after the championship game. The AFC runner-up fired the defensive coordinator, Bob Sutton after six seasons in that role. Now Sutton side of the ball gave up five hundred twenty four yards in Sunday's including a pair of go ahead. Touchdown for the pats with under four minutes left and regulations. But this move was made up of much more than just a one game sample under sun. The chiefs defense ranked near the bottom in most the typical categories last two seasons on top of that they ranked twenty fifth in defensively in two thousand eighteen as far as where Kansas City's looking. That's well, he's a colleague about Rex Ryan is on the watch this. According to our Adam Schefter, the former bills and jets had has had six seasons where his defense ranked top five and yards allowed. During his entire NFL team tobacco over the first take to discuss. Trevor thank you kindly. All right. Here's the deal. Folks, Rex Ryan currently a member of our team here DSP and attention to the GPS as a defensive coordinator, according to our Adam Schefter Damien Woody in the house sweater. I'm Steven A. What would Rex do they focus? It looks good focused. I like, okay. Well, wreck stick one. You did. Again, you want. He wants. You looking on bass everyone settled down. I do feel like a teacher with my glasses. What would wreck sue for Casey the he'd make them the favorites to come out of the AFC next year is just that simple. To me. Rex Ryan is a defensive coordinator in Baltimore never ranked less than six defensively. Two years. He was topped one year. He was five another year. He was six Baltimore as a defensive coordinator as the head coach for the New York Jets in the six years that he was there. I mean at least four times he was ranked in the top in the top eight three times in the top. Bob demand knows thing too. About defense we've seen and be Bill Bill to check in a playoff game in New England on a road is head coach of the New York Jets because of how he coaches defense we've seen the jets. Contribute. A lot of things. Do a lot of things positively on the defensive side of the ball in his tenure the problem with Rex Ryan. And the jets was him as a head coach because offense he appeared to be challenged. But as a defensive mind, he's considered nothing short of brilliant throughout NFL circles. And when you consider what we've seen from Kansas City this year knowing what a damn good coach. Andy Reid is how high power that off. That's the fact that Eric b enemy ain't gonna get a head coaching job. I'm so surprised with that. Okay. The fact that he's going to still be there next year in all probability that Andy Reid is going to be there there. Patrick, Mahomes is going to be there that tyreek hill is going to be the Travis Kelsey is going to be there on the authentic side of the ball. You expect the Kansas City Chiefs to be just as potent as they were this year. The question is what do you do? What do they look like if they have any kind of defense and the answer would be they would probably be the favorites. And that's the way I'm looking at it. And that's why I would I would bring Rex Ron on board. In a heartbeat. I think there's a good chance. Rex Ryan improves the defense. I'm not positive though has he kept up with the new NFL. You know, you have to be able to coach against these new offenses and the kind of big twelve concepts that are all over the league. And Rex Ryan was an excellent defensive coordinator. He was not an excellent head coach. That's the way it goes sometimes, but he's not being asked to be a head coach in this case. He's asked to be to do the thing that he has done. Well in the past the thing that got him a hit. Right. Although this is not like two or three years ago. We're going back already some ways last time. He was a D coordinator. The fact is the case defense, Lou underrated. They had at least a typically speaking the best pass rusher in the league. People know that they could get to the quarterback. They couldn't stop the run to save their lives. But you know, what they had one of the hardest ofensive schedules of any team in the NFL. But when you look at the other playoff teams understand they all had like, the easiest, offense or schedules. Meaning the how how efficient the offenses word that they played against the chiefs were like seventh or eighth or fifth or sixth hardest in the NFL. So stopping the run against teams who are going to do those things well as a little harder than you know, when you have an easier schedule nevertheless by playoff time, they seem to do that. Well, again, now, I think a lot of what we saw the problem against the patriots is they didn't blitz. Tom Brady on a lot of teams haven't blitz. Tom brady. It's a big mistake because they're so afraid of what he's done in the past picking you apart. But this year he was like dead last against the blitz. That was a mistake. So but overall the chiefs defense, I think Stephen A, you are underrating them. And I do think there's a good chance. Rex Ryan could make them better than they were. I'm not one hundred percent sure yet his to show that he can still do it in this NFL. But based on his track record, you'd have to think it's an upgrade. Rex Ryan is a defensive survive that make no question about it. This man knows defense and the added experience of coaching in the AFC against Bill Belichick led team at CNN twice a year. I think hit his him even more appeal for the Kansas City Chiefs. I think the to me the biggest question the with the candidate. If you make a move like this p you handle the personality that regimen that restaurant is going to bring do you want all of that? But as far as far as bringing Rex Ryan in as a coach to me, it's a it's a no brainer. You're talking about Kansas City Chiefs team that was literally one drive in overtime away from being in the Super Bowl defense. That was quite honestly, they would almost historically bad. I mean, this was a lopsided the one. This was a one-sided team head. Early on the side of the football. Rex Ryan would come in with a team that personnel is exactly the type of personnel that he's used to coaching which is what which is a three four. That's Bob side in the form of defense coordinator coast under Rex Ryan with the New York Jets. So it wouldn't be much of a transition. As far as personnel is concerned. Rex Ron would bring bring the scheme in that. Those guys hit the ground running a couple of things that need to be said number one. I don't want to hand anything about Rex Ryan's personality. Because that's as a head coach is a defensive coordinator. Nobody ever said a word about his personality Nobu. Here's. No. Here's what I'm saying. Sometimes sometimes, hey coaches, don't like big personalities as a Sistan coaches. That's the point. I was got you. Okay. That's fair. I guess what? I'm saying is if you're Andy Reid, desperate towns. Call for desperate measures you held onto Bob site. And they have no doubt that don't want to chip play the role in Andy Regan Ridha, Bob Sutton, because there was a lot of heat on on read last year after last season to get rid of Sutton, and he held onto him. Secondly, when you look at the defense, I don't wanna hit it. I'm under rating them hell, no twenty-seventh against a run thirty first against the past thirty first in yards allowed to offer. I said it before because stop a cold. Now, they showed up and did something against Indianapolis. And then they couldn't make any stops. When they really really counted. To get the New England Patriots. I'm saying to you obviously Rex Ryan arrives that would put incredible and tremendous heat on Andy Reid. But I'm only saying that because I'm assuming that the defense would be so significantly upgraded that now there is no excuse me. Because clearly this year you can look at. At the defense as the achilles heel for the. You're going to be on your your grossly underrating the chiefs defense. I've talked about it all year. They couldn't stop the run to save their lives. However, not only did they stop Indianapolis dead in their tracks in the playoffs. They actually they actually got to the Super Bowl with their third. Interception of Tom Brady before it was negated by a neutral zone infraction of pre snap penalty. So even there you're sleeping on them. A little bit Matthew. Here's what I'm going to say. This is no slight against Bob sudden. But by not in the same area code is Rex I understand. Rex Ryan is is one of the premier defense. What makes you think? He's still could do it gives you the way the NFL has changed since two thousand. Okay. What you mean? Because def- because coaches never truly leave the game. Even though he's sitting on our said, they are still heavily involved watching tendencies talking other coaches rod guarantee Rex Ryan is still up on all the tendencies that's going on again team. Clinches call Rex Ron ask him about by the way, here's a fencer. As we always bring up, buddy. Ryan when the bears won the Super Bowl and eighty five he was carried off the field too. You know, like that's how import every Monday we got right here in the green room Chapman up with the guys. He's breaking it all down. He's watching all that much. Denver lows Vic Fangio last year that drew defensive coordinator that was two thousand eight his team allowed the third fewest points and force the most turnovers pretty darn good Damian back with us a little bit. Wasn't a right now. I'm Trevor scales. Even that nineteen twenty eight the grizzlies ain't exactly taking with their current roster construction so Memphis breasts decided to open up trade talks with their franchise cornerstones. Adrian Watson and housing is telling us that for the first time Arkansas and Mike Conley are available via trade between now and the February seventh deadline, but that could extend into the off season was also saying that the organization is keeping you the buck with all the parties involved. Organization, you know, has talked to Conley and Gosol about this. And they wanted it, you know, out in the open. They wanted the players to know. And they wanted the rest of the league to know that they are willing to listen now to offers on both players leading into February seven trade deadline, and this is organization that is getting ready to rebuild around their excellent rookie forward. Jaren Jackson junior combined. Conley and are owed over ninety two million dollars over the next few seasons. Some of that money includes good twenty five point six million dollar player option for next season. But based on how he's playing this year might be holding onto that back over the first thing. But the trades big in people the grids will listen to offers for both Mike Conley junior and Marcus all that according to our Adrian woods neuro ski Stephen Lakers. They could use some help. Right. Should they pursue Conley or Saul calmly? Yes, gazelle. No. I don't think that would develop McGee with this kid soo-bok soup. How like a lot of a long with Tyson Chandler. I don't think you need a good soul. Obviously, he's more skilled he's better. But in the same time, he's he's gaining. He's getting up there in age. And I look at Consol who's thirty four years of age not the most let a guy in the world he can shoot shots from the perimeter. He skilled please don't get me wrong. But I just think that's where the biggest need lot. There's biggest need lives. You look at point guard comic looking at Mike. Conley. He's not a star. He's not a superstar. But he's a really damn good player. He's consistent. He's professional. He could hit for women shots. He's if we only play twelve games last year. He hasn't missed a game. Really the. Really this year. He's been playing every game Vitiaz averaging twenty six. He's shooting about forty two percent from the he's improved three point field go percentage shooting as well this season compared to last season a few games that he played, but he's a model of consistency. He's reliable. He knows how to run a show he can defend he's tough. He doesn't shrink beneath the pressure. And I know you can look at some of the guys at the Lakers have and say, why do you need them? I'm proposing get rid of those guys to bring in my colleague because it doesn't compromise what you wanna do in free agency. So if you can have him along with LeBron you keep coups and a heart, for example, and you can still go out there and free agency. I would say you should target calmly. If you to Los Angeles, Lakers, but Nakazawa? I'm a big Mike Conley and Markelle all fan. I think they're the kind of players that you can win championships with how ever under certain circumstances. If here's the issue. Here's who should pursue my com. They I'm going to say no to the Lakers on both noted assault because the league has changed to the point where if you can't defend out in space, and you're a twenty five million dollar player at the five that's difficult and not Conley. Because I believe in Magic Johnson and the Lakers and LeBron being able to attract other high priced talent to LA who was Mike. Conley. Totally excellent. Right. But if he's going to take off twenty five percent of your cap space. He can only do so under certain circumstances. For example, you have an ascendant team with great young talent. It's already kind of like a super team you want to keep them on the roster because you can grandfather and his contract is not like you're taking him on. And now, he's stopping you from signing other free agents, you already have the team you want you just need to pay him. Then you can pay my Conley. If you are a small market team that or an undesirable market for many free agents who said, okay, we got this guy or this is under contract for another year after this year. We're after next year. Let's get them because we can have this good piece in place. You can make a deal for Mike. Conley. Under those circumstances. Yes. But if you're the Lakers, you have all this cap space, and you're hoping to get to at least one, but maybe two top flight free agents that maybe you don't wanna pay Conley. Because that stops you from getting something else. I'll tell you who should go f-. He's at thirty two point five million four million over the next two. That's a third of your capsized, basically. So I'll tell you who should go after my calmly in my opinion. I'll give you one team from the east one team from the west team like Portland in the west why Portland is he an upgrade over Lillard. No. Although he's far better defender. But Stephen has brought up what kind of tradable assets Portland have to get out of this second round purgatory type team that they are. Well, if you could replace Lillard with Conley. And now, you could free up Willard as a trade -able asset. Now, all of a sudden Portland can take a jump because they'd have calmly McCollum. And then they could get someone else for Lillard who would or a lot of value for Lillard a team like that in the east team like Milwaukee if you could turn the job that Bledsoe does if Conley could do that job. Oh, and also he can't go anywhere next year o- or the year after all the sudden, it's like, whoa. You gotta watch out for Milwaukee teams that are on the brink. Who would otherwise have a hard time getting free agents trade for Mike Conley? Otherwise, I don't think that's LA. I don't think LA's right on the brink of a championship as currently as currently constituted. And I also think that Magic Johnson will be able to get a player even better than my calmly and free a couple of things number one. I don't disagree about Milwaukee. I like suggestion. No, no question about it. Because I like Conley with the Greek freak and Middleton and those boys that they have in Milwaukee, particularly being coached by a guy like booting oser who could utilize effectively. So there's no denying that. What I would say, however. Is that when I'm thinking about trade, if you talk to me about getting collie at those numbers, for example, let's use a free agent. He was looking for X amount of dollars. And you were talking about it along those lines. I would definitely dismiss that. I would want that. But if you're talking about trading somebody that means you have to you ridge itself of certain assets to a quiet return. So I'm not looking at the cap affect from that perspective understand where you're coming from. But I'm not looking at, but you have to Stephen because those contracts are getting rid of or like expect it contagious call Whipple. That's expiring. You know, what I'm gonna be on your book? I do understand that. But what I'm saying to you is that ultimately, you're going to have to get players, and you're going to have to spend that money anyway, whether it's on a multitude of assets or the exact trade that you do all I'm trying to say is that when I'm looking at a championship squad as being formulated. He you know, what they might not be the ones that the liver. You a championship evidence about what lack of success they've had a Memphis, even though they've been a couple of conference titles. What I'm saying is they don't cost you a conference championship. I think commonly helps you alone that line. Now, we get to Magic Johnson. And what he's going to do in free agency that happens to be my biggest worry, whether it's whether it's Kevin Durant. Whether it's clay Tom de had what it is. Whether it's Kemba Walker is plausible that Magic Johnson. And rob Pelinka of all people can end up empty hand. If that's the case, then I'm wondering on that make sense, I'll give you one more team. And this is more kind of out there because Kyle Larry's played very well on offense. I wouldn't I don't know if there'd be enough time to get. It together. If you could just press though, change Kyle Lowry into Mike Conley and keep the kind of integrity of the team together going forward. I think Toronto could win at all this year.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4)

"Here we go there we go. I'M NOT GONNA lie I was. I was waiting reading. I was waiting. I was waiting. I was hoping for silver spoons again and still just we'll just listen you once our sheltie just impera. I see your Bra. Oh is that the video that he sent you see I see man. Do sit the video L. at eight thirty in the morning hanging out. I guess we don't have a job well or good one. That is the job well. It's the different time he attended smarty and you know what else you got to work for a key working for more right now no keys doppler in Costa Mesa seventy four degrees this morning talking about right Jeremiah get warm because get to high eighty three today by the way run yeah. I think it's going to be a high of something well. Yes it will get its ties point and then we'll start to cool exactly how the you know the sun and the earth and the planets ready whenever you're ready. We're talking to remix doc that less so Kaku Cockatiel do know that last night I was watching ATV. No no I watched mix not blackish but the other one knicks rush knicks issues is interesting. I like black endless. It was hope for you. It was it was interesting because it's a black white husband yes and in the black wife the mixed kids and you know just taking you through all the different things. I'll start thinking about my kids and stuff just all the different things that go on in society when you are a biracial family and your kids and the curly hair and funny looking glasses and people look at them and teasing them because they're complexions is different different but it was a really educational show in very funny because it was a lot of the corny go ahead. I didn't say yeah. You just looked up in looked at me. All of a sudden it was real corny so the sister kept having this seven straight you know and let them know. Hey Yo hold on them educated. I'm this and that because the father of the the the father of the husband obviously you know. He embraced the grandkids because that's his grandkids but everybody everybody else Kinda at a distance okay. It's one of those deals is like okay so I'm messing with Jennifer the whole time so that's how I feel a a Lotta Times you do to me. Leave me alone. That's not true. Did you guys watch altogether or no. We were watching my kids who are in the other room. We were just watching it or offering around being mixed and you're watching this reading a doing homework or something like that big mistake you know so it initially. It's going to be a hit though when I first saw I was like okay. Now we pass this whereas like is edgy to be like who enter razer consciousness talking to you but we gotta remember. It's just not talking to you. That's when I saw him to everybody in the eighties right yeah yeah yes so it's talking to those that we continue to deal with on a daily basis that we have issues with like your video talking to them. is is allowing the the the Eagle Rock people of the world to understand that this is is different time period in society today in Zack. Morris is the dead yeah and isn't it the woman the another cast member from saved by the bell. I thought she I didn't watch the show but I thought that was the big to do they. We're both Kasmin from saved by the bell. I knew that the DAD is about the Bill Maher Paul Mark Paul and then who is the young woman the this is a new show. Els got to check it out. Guys have had gotten her from Tika sumpter. That is her from saved by the bell. That's the extras. That was the black actress because only had one. I think there was just one black women of her. Hey guys why that's her. I think the other woman that was on that show had some real real serious problems on saved by the Bell I think now this is my wheelhouse things. Don't mess with it yeah. If you say to your line of the morning you're listening to AH WE'RE SO QUEBEC REX Ryan couple of nights ago a couple of days ago unloaded on Baker Mayfield that he got bamboozled on the steal your word key and he led Baker Mayfield. Here's Rex Ryan on Monday. I don't get I love to be an offense coordinator here. I've old back them. Jarvis Landry Niche ub Bob Baker Mayfield yeah. I know he's overrated as hell but like this. Here's the the team knows you have tackles and so are we going to make an adjustment. You just going to let them get beat one on one all day long. Can I briefly go back to overrated as hell if I may Baker Mayfield as overrated absolutely absolutely look. I bought the Dang height right but not to the point where everybody's saying he's GonNa be the league. Mvp what are you seeing that. He's not doing right now yeah but you know what's he doing right greeting. Zama look at this. Here's a guy right now. That is one read guy and then he's going to improvise. He's gotTa realize you were one of the a slowest guys on that field. When you take off with it okay the other thing the ball's not coming out in rhythm he staring down guys and you're not that accurate down in a field. Donald is on the other side of the ball. Why isn't the bulk coming out of the way they had to hold the ball. I never saw all right. Rex Ryan hit him hard rex. Ryan said that he's overrated. He said that he's a one read guy. He says that he's the slowest guy on the field and that ball's not coming out on time KC etc.. Let's stop right there for Sega before we hear Baker fire back at him is Rex Ryan wrong because I'm listening on yeah sounds about right. You know he's not what happens is is. Baker may feel the top quarterback in the NFL NO IS Z goes to being the top quarterback in the NFL. No is he close to being one of the guys that flame out in three or four years yes in nest would in nets would has rex. Ryan talking about him because the hype the buildup the commercials the all the things that I tried tale ill Z. Early on in Rosh early on about Baker Mayfield in Cleveland Browns as a whole. You got a guy yes. He's funny got the head man he's on front cover of magazines magazines all this cool but at the end of the day when you not three and oh enthralling for three fifty a game this is what happens to you now as I evaluated from day one. I've never thought he should have been a number one overall pick but that's just me and I and I'm and I'm sure I'm not the only one Dorsey the general manager of Cleveland felt that he was worthy of the number one pick. I didn't feel that way selected. Somebody totally like for my money. I if I'm if if I'm a select I might have taken Lamar Jackson. I might have taken somebody else but not him because he never ever show me that he we had the ability to be what they wanted to be. When he was at Oklahoma Yeah you WanNa heisman and he caught the Barney throwing the phone. He played against those big teams. I'll start the beating night win in Ohio state other than that. It was kind of like okay. I get the hype behind him. I get that he he he's Chris in the front cover magazines. That's all cool but it's that play on the field man when failed do get ahold of you. He's not as he's not fasted Aaron. Donald no no. He's not he's he might I'm bet you he's not faster than some some of his offense align PAS. The COP was built like an offensive lineman. Were really from the cops. That's a little bit different but you should be faster because 'cause you scared wearing shoes and he got caught. I is he Baker Mayfield. Perhaps over exposed. I I think that is the difference between exposing high cute words over exposed them Christine Malawian yeah so I think Baker Mayfield is over exposed in a sense of he is everywhere but I don't think people talk about him like he's a top quarterback. He just covered. He's a top quarterback and I think those two different things are not as due to my left in that you ooh. Oh man as he broke the record. He's I'm telling you okay man but but if you're a number one overall draft pick travis and you break touchdown passing record as known overall draft pick. You should get some attention well. This is why part of the reason he gets. The attention is because when someone says something about him he says something back back to Rex Ryan. Throw whatever the wise words Freddie Kitchens if you don't wear orange and Brown don't matter and Rex Ryan doesn't have any colors right now for a reason awesome so it's okay. That's pretty great as part of the reason we cover him the way we do because him going back. Rex Ryan said yeah he can have his opinion but there's a reason he doesn't have any colors and we're cool. I mean that's that's sharp yours. In that was cute. It was but the overexposed part of it in the breaking the records first of all is not that many rookie quarterbacks that actually play okay. They ruined usually rookie quarterback's. Don't play paid manning play. Many got beat to death. I mean for a car. Blake's got beat to death or you. GonNa throw picks when they hit you upside your head. I mean that and just as part of the growing pains but the fact of the matter is he eclipse. Whatever little record was set okay and then everybody took that in ran with it if if he played the entire season okay. Maybe maybe those numbers play the entire season. Maybe maybe he breaks the fifty touchdown L. Mark set by because that's certainly would rogers saying assuming look the the comeback of he doesn't have any colors is pretty sharp and it makes you should go kate. Baker Mayfield is in this and he he's really good at this game but he lost me at the jump when he says you know one of the brilliant things that Freddie kitchen says hold hold on hold on Freddie Kitchen said something brilliant the guy that ran a drawn fourth nine from the plus forty. Two Guy threw the ball four times in a row inside the ten a yard line with the game on the line and three time outs. That's that's the guy that's dropping. Pearls of wisdom on you. Slow down and all of this together is the bigger problem. It's it's not what wreck said or what Baker said about rex. It's this part. This is Mayfield talking about everybody paying attention to them. It's something you really have to be conscious of because because you're surrounded and environment we hear a lot of things stuff pops up your phone stuff is on TV. People talk okay. This was my greatest concern about the browns. Commit it not the Baker Mayfield wears. A headband says crazy stuff. Not Somebody like rex. Ryan says always overrated the Brown seem so hyper aware of what what everybody Senator Bill Belichick and the Patriots the Rams Shamsher. They're aware what people are saying but they don't swim at every day. The browns seemed to swim in this controversy in noise everyday but it's new to them. It's it's it's new. It's exciting and you got a bunch of young guys. WHO's paying attention to it? Who embraces is it. Who wants to be put in that position? Odell Beckham came out and he said the same thing he respects Ryan but you know he doesn't play for this team. Blah Blah Blah like you don't even need to have that conversation bakers already said what he said Rick Sale he said and just let it go leave it alone. Get ready to concentrate on the team that you're getting ready to play because because if you drop a zero there then now what is going to be more issue's. ESCO come to bear and it hasn't even started to the point with the receives he was waiting to receive is starting to get frustrated the wide. I'll send him and got first-rate yet. ooh. Now we're talking whose birthday is from the Brady. Bunch birthday is not however fifty years ago today this show premiered on ABC. That's right. I still love very well. Everybody loved Brady Bunch. I'm trying to think what sister Oh. That's an easy one sister sister three girls three boys Bobby Pete. Yeah it was Greg Greg Greg older corral but don't forget to meet Alice Yeah Alice. She was a bad employees. No she always worked hard. She did all the work there you see her. Here is a bad employees. Yes alydar cars yes so every time is in a shot. She's cooking or cleaning no yeah butcher those sale butcher. Florence's drinking coffee and reading the newspaper telling you tone right and then what was the daughter's name. There's three of them. I know I remember Greg and Bobby Compete Marshals. The washer was Otis. Jan Jan Cindy Cindy Cindy was a young one and Cindy. She had to listen or the parents right. What was your most memorable episode food. Oh that's a good one when they went on a trip they saw the spider it's the White House living on it and that made everyone's scared of trans even though they don't have 'em Yep Yep. That was a good one. The Grand Canyon was good. I loved the one when she got hit in the nose or the football. Oh that's a good one. Something suddenly came up. I remember when one of them went through puberty or someone voice was all heater when it's time to they had a band once right before more than once that was like every fifth episode Shannon and what US guys want to know. I will say this. I'm disappointed in your eyes. Oh because there's something in a rundown than I thought by now so you would have celebrated Serena Williams thirty eight years old. Oh no not that but hey where to go yeah. That's true. It is birthday happy birthday Serena. The princess bride was release thirty two years ago. Okay so that's a movie that you would think that. I would like right like if you said if somebody asked you L Z. Do you think travis likes the Princess Princess Bride. I don't get it. I've seen it a bunch of times. I don't get it. I just it's inconceivable yeah. I it's weird and it's kind of odd but but I don't I don't know if anything more than ever crossed my lips yeah every single time. I don't care where in the movies on I'm stopping happy. Would I just found out within the last year was that Oh girl from house of cards is in it yes Robert Wright and I love that is thought you would've would've liked that part better by the way she looks better older to me. She's beautiful. She's a beautiful woman. Giant killed to my father prepared to die. I get there at their iconic lines and scenes but did do you laugh when you watch it. Yes yes really yes S. Key view princess bride seen it isn't good thirty two years ago for instance. Bryan came out. Put up a PO-. Oh I usually Kinda like quirky weird about baseball so I take you didn't like that. I did like space balls. Mel Brooks but Mel Brooks is far more slapsticky an obvious Okay this this was. This wasn't an obvious comedy. It wasn't a slapstick comedy. It's kind of an odd comedy yeah corking. Anyway Melvin Gordon's back. Gordon is back with the chargers. What didn't work out super grade for him? He he wanted a new deal didn't get a new deal lost lost about just shy of a million bucks in salary and by the way the charges are digging in for just a little bit more than a million dollars in fines which means he's two million light key and did not get his new deal. What exactly was going on there because I get a hold out. If Lebanon Bell had price I ain't coming in gate. Ezekiel Elliott had not come into Melvin. Gordon had a price didn't get what we want and now he's coming in with two million fewer dollars than he had before. Yeah remember what I told you yesterday. When Santa Santa Fe was to run a team and I had this situation. I do exactly what the charges see a given the fact that he is not that valuable to us right now with a couple of years left on his contract. I let you sit didn't run while your teammates are playing in out here busting their butts trying to win games and do all those sorts of things I'm GonNa just let you sit tight because we offered you ten million your base. Salary is four and some change but we gave you roughly an offer at about ten we could have probably increased to forty two million came in a couple of weeks ago but you're trying to get up there at fourteen thirteen and a half and fifteen and that's not going to happen and it was calculated. Poorly buys is representation representation set him up for failure because once you make that decision that this is what you're going to do then you have to follow through the stomach too because at the end of the day those checks aren't going to becoming even though you've got money saved in. You're going to be spending that money. You're gonNA we live in. You're you're riding around. Everybody's gone there at work. You're at home and so you're gonNA be miserable in your start to really miss it and think about so you you have to have the stomach Melvin Gordon on the flip side of things when I say to you I'm not coming. I'm not coming but I'm a star said Neta early enough that you know that ain't coming by the last season ought been telling you man deal all season. I'm not coming to camp or anything so they already know t they already know. I'm going to be showing you my bank statement so you are okay. I see what this is. He's GonNa he's GonNa outlasted situation and they know that they approach it way different way different now just remember going through it myself with bill parcells in New York jets bill man. I'm not coming. I'm not you guys got to be prepared to get done. We're not going to do. We're not going to set the precedent. We'll trade you. Okay well good. I'll stay on into you. Do let me know who's failures this. Is this Melvin Gordon because it's ultimately his career or is this the agents failure giving him bad advice because now he didn't get a new deal. He's two million dollars poorer than he was before this whole process started and now he's in any way didn't get anything he wanted. Is It on Gordon Autumn it because it look you're in charge of Melvin Gordon Inc or did the agent. Put Him in a terrible spot well. It just depends on what the agent explained to him. Let's assume that the agent explain explain to him. Everything and then mail and guard made a decision to do. He wants to do okay now. Let's assume that the agent didn't explain it to him. Remember Guard kept saying in many go do what you think they can do. What you think I'm going to get it done. I got this done withdrawn bettas back in the seventies or I got this done with. OJ In the sixties we'll get done yeah. I got auto with America. We'll get it done. Let's assume that in the end it doesn't happen at the end of the day it doesn't look good for Melvin Gordon because right now he's he's in there and the worst thing for him to do is to leave without a contract if he can go in and let them seem touchy feeling a little a bit into side that he's GonNa leave again. That'd be a bad meal out of possibility. Leaving is always always a possibility. I've seen it happen before we've already proven that we can cause they may have tolerated giving but they might have told him come in and we go work on it but you gotta be here and that's usually what happens. Benzes team says come in. We'll work on it. Let's just just come. We'll work on it. Let's figure it out. You said yesterday that you thought they would get him a new deal before at the end of the season. You still feel the same way I do. I do now won't be it won't be what he wants. It may even be the same that they've already offered a slightly a little bit it above but he's not going to be anywhere near close to what he wants and is going to be in their favor from a structural standpoint or reporter. He told you seen Anderson. He's fully prepared for this to be his his last season with the team so if they don't present him with what he wants he becomes a free agent and then he just Kinda bounces right yeah but it depends on who ah the running back market is tricky man. If you remember the the deal Raj groves put together yesterday on the last man standing. There was three running backs that was in the top three. I mean the three running backs with the top pay through running backs. We were able to hit all three of those running backs running away but after thirteen million dollar drop ball Leon bill that thing plummeted down to like seven and a half a million so you couldn't even really you had to scramble all the think who the top pay rent backdoor so when you start to think of it like that L Z you say to yourself okay if he's making thirteen million and he's the top of the heat in now. Melvin Gordon becomes a free agent. There's no team that's going to be willing to pay him thirteen million because they devalued running back position especially when you not Z. SAQUON or lady on each dog early hot girly ish in anti girly doesn't can help based on his failures in the last several games. It doesn't help the running back market at all because people will say whoa you don't really necessarily need a top Russia to win the world championship because the New England Patriots. They don't have a top. Russian didn't win Atlanta when they went to the Super Bowl win. They didn't have a top Russia. Then the marshawn lynch with the Seattle Seattle seahawks they didn't win when he was a top dog didn't even give him the ball a couple of silver spoons Ricky Schroder to find kind come on key. I love this show. Travis wanted to train in my living room really badly. Oh that's funny chat about Aaron Gray though gray was you know she was also rogers she was shipped to the Rich Dad. Yes I saw orbital's and Jason Bateman and Jason Bateman who still making money so yeah every time I must say I I see Rick Schroder all the time out here he's out there are running around a little older now but he's trying to start is the Eagle Rock today thirty seven years ago and NBC response premier. How many years ago thirty seven my friend. You're old my friend. yeah yeah. You know what else premier though while back what that's right guys it's our. NFL picks against the spread favorite segments. I love this kind of stuff offend. Of course we don't just do the Games. We do get spread confidence pool which means you most confident game. You're most confident pick you give four two and if you're not so confident to get one now of course course l. Z is still leading the pack. Twenty five points Travis is second you just behind with twenty points and coming. Sean got a couple of games right Fisher. He's got a ten is up to ten. Double Digits Keita's pretty good. How are YOU GONNA hate. It ain't nothing new Iraq. Let's start guys with tonight's game on Thursday night football. We finally got a good one guy right. They wanted to eagles. Take on the undefeated packers. The packers are four and a half point favorites keyshawn Julia taken. What's your confidence on it you know. Is this really a good game on Thursday night. I know US two quarterbacks or quarterback. That's supposed to be good. Obviously a guy who will be a first ballot hall of famer humor and Rogers but Thursday night football tradition. He hasn't been so great. The packers are at home got a chance to go foreign. Oh they got a chance to do some things but they're gonNA get their offense. Fix expe- off is getting fixed Carson winces under a little bit of heat just a little bit not a lot but just a little bit I think if he loses his game tonight that he thing will dow certainly go up not only on him but on the entire Philadelphia Eagles cast because they will be on the verge possibly missing the playoffs going one in three so I'm GonNa take the packers in this situation and I'm GonNa take that four and a half and I'm making my three okay zita handyman. You're the did the leader in the clubhouse. Why don't you give us your regain. I hate talking about ironside inside about. You're not really who I am. As a person I twenty five just checking. Here's the deal Aaron Rodgers has been on television a lot the season talking about the office talking about the office but the one thing that is interesting about the offense is that they've actually been scoring more and more points so even though visually we see struggles. The outcome is actually more training in the right direction. I I think this is going to be the breakout game for Iraj. Is this is where we're going to see the three touchdown no interceptions how in the hell did he throw that football air rogers. It's my two but I'm still going with the packers okay Travis. I'll make it a clean sweep. I'll take Green Bay as well. The Eagles the one game that they did win. They still gave up twenty four points. They've they've given up twenty seven twenty seven and twenty four and their three games. They are not a particularly good team. They've struggled with some pretty mediocre teams along the way sorry Chelsea that includes the lions. I'm GonNa Take Green. Take I think they're getting ready to have that awesome explosion. You're talking about Green Bay at the three all right next game. Let's go and the NFC north here either the Vikings to in one vikings takings keyshawn in my team though this year against the two and one bears the bears in trubisky are favored by two and a half points at home travis where you lean Ian. I'm I hate this game first of all because I hate both quarterbacks. I think they may be trying to bet on either. One of these guys is a fool's errand. I'M GONNA TAKE MINNESOTA BECAUSE I'll take the points. I think that Kirk cousins is a little bit better than Mitch Trubisky. I loved Alvin Cook. I think that the defense for Minnesota it's maybe not the bears defense but it's a good defense. Take the Vikings at two. LCD grandy man who you got. I think her cousins is a lot better than Mr. Bisky and kirk cousins is still in the league. He's a star Nestle because he'll give honey and then he'll give you some vinegar and tonight's going to be some honey so I'm picking the Vikings and that's my three all righty and vinegar. Don't even go to the reason why I picked those too honey inventor. Go together with Chili peppers and you mix it up together. You can make a nice to your mustard who you got the vikings. Were moving into Chicago. They gotTA travel there. Dr Mitch Trubisky stinks stinks well. It's not that he get. He gives me heartburn. When I'm watching him against his Vikings defense that's retooled. They KINDA got their Mojo. Oh Joe back on the defensive side of the ball. They can apply pressure. They create turnovers. They do a whole lot of different. Things with Zimmer. Zimmer knows what to do against bunk. quarterbacks liked liked trubisky on the flip side. The Vikings do have a quarterback kirk cousins still trying to find his way out of the role of a manager serviceable quarterback that makes makes about ninety million dollars guaranteed but they do have downland cook and feeling in in in his digs Ralph they have some special pieces on the offense aside side of ball going up against Chicago's defense. It'll be one of those low scoring games but in the end Chicago would not be able to scored enough points. Vikings this this one and I'll make it my one all right here. We go now the next game Sunday night football which would have been a game of the week but of course breeze getting hurt. It's still going to be an intern gang bridgewater taking over ten thirteen out of his last nineteen start something like that. I read well. The three and no cowboys undefeated cowboys they traveled to New Orleans to take take on the saints and Cowboys are favored by two and a half points on the road keyshawn. Who Do you like here. Well Dallas is a three in Oakland watching but they're three and all is not as impressive to me as to one that the saints have in the reason that he is is because the saints went to Seattle on the road in May Seattle look like a second rate football. That's important to my eyes may not be important to the rest of America but it is to me although I do think the cowboys. Are you know pretty good football team. I haven't seen this group cowboys in this environment on the road this this year to try to put out a win plus at the end of the day is all about nepotism anyway so I'm GonNa take the New Orleans saints. Okay two and a half drops. I'm favoring the New Orleans saints. It'll make their my two okay. Granny Man you know. I hate following keyshawn so closely because he's lost so many games however on on this occasion. He is absolutely correct. People had assume that the saints were going to be as good because it allows US starting quarterback not processing process and the fact that their backup is starting quarterback and he looked like last week. He's looked like this. We travers has gave me this look but yes damn skippy. I'm picking the saints and it's not autism is wisdom. It's a waste of backup quarterback. We mean I said people thought he was a backup quarterback but he's actually a starting quarterback issue one yeah okay that you one I did see the first half of Dallas against Miami and ousted not look great and they did not look like take a lights out football team. Ki- like you mentioned they played three teams that are not very good the giants the redskins and the dolphins they're three and no. New Orleans is at home. I'm GONNA take the cowboys in the points. I'm going to put them all the way down at the bottom though number one dallas cowboys alright and finally we have our undefeated they return home to take on on key. Shawn's Jameis Winston his favorite quarterback in the League whose issued an extension in stay with the butts but the bucks are wanted to go undefeated Brown. Excuse me Keyshawn Talk Doc the rams are favored by nine and a half points can cover such a spread the numbers ton and it gave me pause for half a second and then I realized that the rams have still scored nearly thirty points in all three of their game two of the three games and it's going to happen. They're going to have that offensive explosion like we were talking about a minute ago. It's going to happen. It's going to happen this Sunday at the coliseum the rams all the way at the top for four all right. I don't know if the office is GONNA. Explode and I know the defense offense will and I know Jamie's love serving them up now so I wouldn't mind seeing a pick six or former return for touchdown anyway. It goes monkey both the he vote anyway it goes. I don't not having to worry so much about the office I think overall. We're going to get that thirty and the bucket of struggle to score so that's my four per usual. How how rams baby raspberry who's Reich you sean it's your turn sorry pre half and Post Oh st his what I'm GonNa do here you know every now and then Guy Cruze air and go legal in in this this conference in this division who understands certain situations even know it's a different. Rams team them with Bruce and seen it before they've always struggled at times with Bruce Arians Arizona cardinals and when you one of the biggest upsets hits that could potentially come before is in the NFL football season rams you talk about negative stuff about Jaimes Winston incident about serving it up and he's this and he's favourite keyshawn quarterback guys actually played pretty decent this year unlike Mariota. I'll side to serving up to the interceptors in Week Guan San Francisco. He's been pretty pain on ramp side that quarterback four hundred ten million dollars has actually been the second coming of Bart. Art Store not yet todd Gurley has not been the same not yet. Todd Bowles is a pretty savvy defensive coordinator and and now he wants me to hurry up. I mean take five minutes but you did your other ones in forty five seconds so I hope we can do. This is the rams so I figured we'd take our pre-eminence Moran at the end of the day. I'm smart enough to know come on that. The Tampa Bay buccaneers Komo home key will not cover there. You go to win in this game going away okay. I'M GONNA make it my four Dow. NFL piggy spread go ahead and take it to the Branko. Hey how far away are we L Z from getting another one Black Panther movie. I think it's two thousand twenty two you still while still a minute okay Cherry Bozeman for whatever reason wants to make movies. I guess he's an actor well. I know he is an actor very very good liked him in forty two a lot but when you're Black Panther don't you just keep knocking those things out until they don't let you make them anymore. Knock black off of you know. Let's go yeah. I'll go again again and again and again the got the whole remember. He hit black pants but he was also in both avengers as well as civil war so he's he's a for four of them. He's putting another spandex right now. Keep him coming on. ESPN DOT COM has a list up of their top ten NBA players okay one one and two are still in their back pocket. They haven't let that go you. Tell me where the list comes off the rails ready. Okay here. We Go Paul George at ten fine all right okay dame. Lillard at night okay so far so good so far so good eight Joel Embiid K. getting literary number seven Nikolay Yokich it is right on that is accurate doing we'd like embiid ahead of Yokich yes why because he's better looking for the handful of games that he plays Travis handful of gains. He's the joker is not missing gains for a bellyache just because you show up. Don't you still run out. What is what isn't isn't better at He's a better score. He's a better defender. I'll give you the defender Yes. I don't know if he's a score. He's about to score advocate there. He's a he's a more dynamic namic score. He's a more he's more fun to watch okay yeah but not a better rebounders definitely not a better passer and more better shooter. Yokich can knock threes. You like you like field goal percentage. Joel embiid is not as good of a three point shooter but the thing with Yokich as you do the screen role he pops out. If it's covered he's gotTa swing the Rock because he doesn't have the ball handling skills Joel Bill but he'll also find a guy under the basket layup everybody Russell Westbrook's got a thousand triple doubles. He's is not on this list. We don't have to worry about him never six. Steph that feels super low. That's too long to suggest a two time. MVP and three the NBA champions to a very much in his prime. It's not a top five player. Disrespect feel like we're gonNA have a season where Steph kinda reminds everybody exactly what was going on. Nobody we've member this is ESPN. This isn't the basketball necessarily. This is a group of reporters who are very good job but it's not like he's getting slighted cited by his colleagues because Katie is gone and because clay is hurt and is in the midst of rehabbing it feels like steps can have an opportunity entity to do some fifty on the raptors. He doesn't drink during the finals. Get fifty and again. I thought he got pretty damn close. We had a couple of good ones. I don't John if he had fifty number. Five Los Angeles Laker Anthony Davis. I'll come bad like I mean look I love. I think he's going to be awesome. I can't wait to see it steps ahead. Ad Right yes yeah number four James Harden which feel see that no no no no no no that is very my fantasy see team James Howard well. He's a great fantasy player. James Harden is fun TV occasionally but when it comes time to get something done and win some stuff. James Harden's never been around cancel by himself. James Harden is a very good offensive player any willing passer but he does nothing nothing better than Steph curry right now if you don't get extra points for having one foot near Eh by the way that's going to be a disaster him in respite together. That's going to be a disaster it. May it may not be. They do do the exact same stuff. I think we're no lead. They don't do know what I mean by that is they. Both give me the ball and get out of my way they what they do after they get the ball's a little different but the whole thing is. I'M GONNA stand over here. The other four you dudes you go over there and get the hell out of credit. The transition's GonNa be fun. We're on fast-break. That's going to go well yeah. I think they're spinning the wheels and then number three L Z Lebron James now see I understand where they're coming from. It's just a wrong place. They think because Janas Kawai one one. NBA Championships the other was finals or other ones MVP that they've they've now passed the Bron James. Because Brian got hurt and he missed the playoffs for the first time in like over at well over a decade but I will double dog dare you to ask any NBA player who is the best skilled player in the NBA and to a player here. I'm willing to say you're here. Lebron James named first before you here. Y- honest I agree I agree with that and if you're better skilled and the level of athleticism hasn't jumped off a cliff. I'm just thinking you're the better player on defense. I think the Lebron is a better player than Jaanus. Hey there's a there's a big but the end the but is is this big but we're getting to the point where I think it's really not only fair but it's probably right to look at if we're just talking about this upcoming season the twenty one thousand nine hundred twenty twenty season. That's about to start in a few weeks is is Lebron. James still one of the best players in the league absolutely unequivocally yes but is it blasphemous to have a player or two or three ahead of him. No it's not you moved up to three. Yeah I think and again I'm kind of change it because what I just said wouldn't qualify your but Kevin durant assuming he comes back and just go ahead of Lebron James at this point. I wouldn't have a problem from with Katie being listed ahead in the branch Leonard's ahead of him because of the defense because the ability to play both ends of the court not Lebron can't do you it be Lebron is what is thirty six thirty thirty five. It's his seventeenth Christmas. I wanted his seventeenth year. In the League. I mean Y- how's the and and and wants this lake season unfolds a little bit and we get into Nook and cranny of the season. Who Do you think's really going to be leading the Lakers like the best player on the Lakers with the the eyeball test you you. Would you be surprised. Anthony Davis was the best player on the Lakers. Would you be surprised yes. I wouldn't really yeah yeah warrants percent. I wouldn't be surprised if if it was still Lebron James but I wouldn't be surprised if it had been passed over to Anthony Davis either the night in and night out if Anthony Davis is doing a little bit more than Lebron on average special the most often those are different questions being the better player doesn't mean you're always being the Alpha and every single moment Lebron Lebron James even when he played with D way and Chris Bosh was step back and allow de way to get his even though Lebron Lebron James. Really wanted to uh-huh especially over the last eight years if he wanted to lead the league in scoring he would have hopefully James Harden is out there trying to beat him. Even scoring Lebron James has opting to everybody else involved and then he'll get here's when he wants to is that not though and I agree with you had he decided just to mash the gas go for it he could lead the League in scoring Lee agree but the fact that he chooses not to is that not part of what we're talking about the fact that he needs to pick his spots a little a little bit more the fact that he's not really capable. That's wrong word not really willing to go out there and give you ninety eight percent of his best night it in an Lebron and this is not just last season. The last few seasons Lebron has been very strategic about when he gives you maximum Lebron he has to be you know why because no one else and modern basketball history has played as much as he has and because of that at the measuring stick that we use has to be special and unique as well people are wondering why he's not going hard and gained eighty the way they genesis well is because gain eighty. He's plays game. Janas is calling in a rap and the BRA. No He's still has another twenty. Five Games wants to go. His regular. season is different than everybody else has regular season because postseason has been different else's postseason. Do I feel like I could flip that. I feel like I could take exactly what you just said and say that's why he's not that guy and because of the odometer because of where we are in his career not that he's not great he still the fact that we're still still considering a guy going into his seventeenth season as the third or fourth or first or second or whatever it is is remarkable but the fact that he's played as many minutes it's as many games as many seasons as he has and. I know that he is meticulous about how he takes care of himself and that's a credit to him but the fact of the matter is that car's been on the road a really long time and we got some newer cars here that can do right now it is. He's a jeep wrangler. You know what Jeep Wrangler is so valuable why because they don't appreciate like other cars you can buy a brand new jeep wrangler driving off the lot in a depreciates by like three five thousand dollars. You took another car it drops by I ten thousand. He's a jeep wrangler built to last what is embiid you know. He's a go good like trying to buy a three is the place you're listening to K. SPN Los Angeles football tonight dozy we all I have the pack picks are pretty similar this week even have a great day.

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Hour 1: You Think You're Perfect?

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Hour 1: You Think You're Perfect?

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To God's people are allowing for present difficulties to dilute products but it is difficult to pull off a wrestlemainia without a crowd and I haven't seen enormous amount of criticism and I have seen a great praise of that bone yard match the ridiculous bone yard match that they had to call a bone yard match. Because they don't want to call it a cemetery match or a death match because they've got to be very careful with the language during a pandemic so instead they called it a bone yard match but Mike Ryan who goes to Wrestlemainia. Every year he was dressed up in his home and chugging beers as if it were wrestlemainia. Have we seen any ratings on this? Where people actually watching this in in big numbers. Do we know anything about that? I don't know this was the actual first. Wwe Pay per view in a long time. That was an exclusive to the network. They sort of let the genie out of the bottle and only went to their W W network platform which is still available there for ninety nine or traditional pay per view for an increased price. So I'm not sure exactly what the numbers are there. There are publicly traded company. So they're gonNA have to release it but just generally on the time line. A lot of people were tweeting about it. That wouldn't be tweeting about wrestling normally. Even even though it's Wrestlemainia so I was. I watched this and I went into it conflicted and I called out my own sort of questionable moralities and ultimately the tonight experiences over. And I'm so glad it happened because it took my mind off a lot. It's most fun in terms of like consuming entertainment that I've had since this whole thing started. There were a couple of really create moments and there were a couple of moments that yeah you felt the the absence of people because you see doing like a big hero wins. The titles end of the year storyline in front of nobody seems a very bizarre and it feels like a bit of a mess but they did a couple of things outside of that. Performance Center. That felt cinematic. I know it's wwe wrestling and it's lower budget but that's fun. They leaned into it. It was campy. It was Spaghetti Western. I had a lot of fun watching this. I'm really thankful that had happened. I love nothing. Made me laugh harder this week. And then the idea that Vince. Mcmahon was on that commissioners call with the president of the United States. Commissioner I understand fell to understand. He's the commissioner. Thank you guys for nothing as usual. Yes I understand. Why you glued beds. I mean he's the only one is giving us live sports right now. It just. The whole thing is ridiculous. I remember when they had a fake commissioner. What was his name like Jack? Tunney or something like that where. It's just like an on camera authority figure and remember being like just like rocked. When I found out that Vince McMahon the commentator was actually the guy that was running. Wwe And this guy was just like a fake president that they put up their students. The idea you have you have some people like Brian. Windhorst is saying that more and more the NBA is resigned to losing a season and Royce. Young is out here saying that. They're worried about two seasons. Not WORRIED ABOUT FIXING ONE SEASON. They're worried about two seasons And meanwhile you got the president of the United States according to reports telling the commissioners in that commissioner call football is expected to be back in September. I'm surprised you didn't say Easter like I don't I don't know how he thinks he knows how he thinks he knows. When football is GONNA come back when none of us seem to know anything about when this is actually going to die or how. Many people are going to die before this dis like that. That the the idea the presumption that anyone could tell anyone in sports what's coming up seems foolhardy at best. I think he's hopeful like like many people. The exception is he's the president of the United States and that's choose words carefully but Dabo swinney agrees with him. I may Dabbagh was the first one to say it. Davos at football start time this is the USA. That's what he said. Okay we'll get to that sound in a second say we're GONNA kick in the teeth. That's what he said right now. President is kicking us in the teeth. And this is an example of. It's God's because I've got this story from the New York Post and I don't know if you've seen what's happening in New York at seven pm every night right. You've you've You've heard about this to God's or no no. I have not okay at seven. Pm Every night everybody in New York. Who CAN is opening up their windows and applauding healthcare workers. Who are headed into work. It sounds like the city is applauding them. People who aren't at their windows at seven pm all of a sudden are you know are are summoned to their window because the noise is so distinctive and they applaud for actually might seven am. I'm not sure about that. I'll check that in a second. I don't know why seven. Am makes more sense to me. But they're they're applauding and it sounds like the city is applauding. And I want to read this to you from the New York Post and ask your opinion on this because the New York Post had an interesting story that buries a couple of very wealthy doctors who run Mount Sinai health system. Kenneth Davis and the two of them Arthur Kleiner getting buried by the New York Post. I'm just GonNa to read this to you and get your thoughts here because while heroic staffers beg for protective equipment and dawn garbage bags to treat corona virus patients that are Mount Sinai Hospital. Two of the system's top executives are waiting out the public health catastrophe in the comfort of their Florida vacation homes. The Post is learn. Dr Kenneth Davis Seventy two the CEO of the Mount Sinai Health System pulled down. Nearly six million in compensation in two thousand eighteen is in sconces in his waterfront mansion near Palm. Beach Davis. Who Has Been Davis has been the sunshine state for weeks and is joined by Dr Arthur Klein seventy-two president of the Mount Sinai Health Network. Who owns an oceanfront condo in Palm Beach as the dual work from home? The upper east side base hospital system seems to be imploding. And then there's a there's a quote here from from The head of the New York State Nurses Association. Saying how can you inspire confidence in your employees who are on the front lines of the epicenter that you have their best interests at heart. When you're a thousand miles away even more important. What are you doing to procure? The P P that is proven to save lives of caregivers and ultimately the patient's we care for we are not protected and every day it is getting worse. Now Davis had a comment and the post buries him by saying reached at his six bedroom. Eight bathroom home by the Post. Friday who Davis had some comments defending himself? But what are your thoughts before I get too because Davis was angry when when reached it his home. What are your thoughts before I read to you what it is that he says all right. This is without knowing if he has anyone in his family who has underlying health conditions. Maybe you know grandparents. I don't know any of that. But how could you disagree with the fact that this is? This is terrible leadership if you aren't charge of big medical companies and your employees are working and risking their lives on a daily basis to help with this pandemic had. Can YOU BE? They're on the frontlines fighting with those employees trying to help make this thing go away as quickly as possible. So this is how he responds. Do you know what do you know that? From the time I wake up from the time I go to bed. I am totally engaged. You know that I get over four hundred emails that I replied to that on a good day. It's almost every ninety seconds and then on a bad day it's almost every minute that I have teleconferencing with zoom like constantly when they don't have zoom. I'm on the phone with them. I mean please. The other thing he said is because of his age. Both of these doctors are in their in the riskiest group. They're saying they're saying that they were told by their own doctors to stay home. Because they're in their mid seventies and the reason I bring up the question to you. Is those people in New York who are plotting when they open their windows is because it's not normal to go risk your life for others. It's an extraordinarily brave thing. These healthcare workers who are heroes. Now all over our country and all over the globe who are risking their lives. I understand why we applaud them. I do wonder Stugatz. If we were in their position in our mid seventies would we behave any differently than the guys running the top of it to expect someone to risk their life? Is a bit of an expectation. Don't you think no but to expect someone who is George first off? They're all risking their lives. I understand the chief. Demo is older and especially older men. Okay so I get that but everyone going to work every day on the front lines. Doctors and nurses are risking their lives so no. I don't understand this if you're going to be in charge of this then at least be physically in the state where your workers are having the most difficult time and that state obviously right now is New York. I agree that is how most people would react myself included. I also wonder how we would react if we were. The doctors and our own doctor had told us to stay home because we were more high risk than the other people involved. It's an easy thing to say what you're saying. It's an easy thing to agree with what you're saying. No one's going to take the side of the doctor sitting it out in his oceanside mansion. I just wonder as I put it out to the audience. How many of you in your mid seventies with your doctor telling you to stay home after a lifetime spent in this business working every day from home but being told by your own doctor not to go how many of you would go anyway. Because it's real easy to do that with someone else's life and I wonder if any of us would do it with our own. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance. Progressives homequote explorer is changing the way you buy home insurance now you can go online and get a custom quote and say both time and money learn more today at Progressive Dot Com. Here's your sportscenter. 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Superbowl champion Peyton manning analyzing NFL quarterbacks and UFC two division champion Daniel Corey a breaking down top UFC fighters to new episodes of detail are now available featuring Nick Sabin previewing projected. First round picks. Lsu Joe Borough to exclusively on ESPN plus gamma put it on the poll. Please at Lebatardshow. Is it funny? That Vince McMahon was on. The commissioner's call with the president of the United States. STU gods. I've told you that the things happening on South beach where our studios normally are. Don't have much precedent it's like before scarface was filmed down here and it was just an old person community. It has become something else over the last fifty years. Fast paced There is nobody out there. You have the streets to yourself if you WANNA do anything or you have to do anything but it's become a little bit like Mad Max. I'm not kidding you when I tell you do you remember. Do you remember the character in waterworld? That had the flying contraption over the ocean. That wasn't tethered to anything. Do you remember that went past my window the other day. No I'm not hitting some dude wasn't attached to any boat wasn't tethered to any kite. Surfing wasn't and nothing like that. All he did was just fly by on this machine that if something had you know if a battery had died he would have fallen to his death immediately fall into debt because he was too high like a battery powered. Jet Pack. You understand. It's sort of like it's something you sit in. That feels like a bit like an exercise bike and next thing you know it's flying with a motor. And he was. He was ten stories up but so I go I go in. The streets are empty right and a half to get some paper towels and this is an actual thing that happened to me and I imagine it's happening to some of us. Stugotz has been talking for weeks now about the fact that he's judging coffers and Caesar's and everyone else but I walk into get some paper towels and standing at the front of what is otherwise an empty place and dude walks in through the front door very near me and I just sort of back away just keeping my distance sure and he actually says to me so you think you're perfect. I'm just trying to keep distance from everybody. He's applying pressure corona by. Leave your perfect thinking. I'm better than give. That's me just wanting you to stay over there now in fairness to him that usually is your reaction pandemic or no pandemic when you see somebody at a grocery store. That's right that's exactly right and also I do think I'm perfect. So there's that I want to get to our tournament here. We're going to do so in the next segment segment but Myron Rolle is GonNa join us at eleven o'clock Eastern. He's as impressive and athlete as you've ever met a Rhodes scholar and was great at. Fsu was a high draft pick and decided instead for a career in medicine. But did you see STU? Gods that at seventy three years old. Tom Dempsey died over the weekend. A due to complications from the corona virus and put it on the poll game. Or do you know who Tom Dempsey is. Because if you don't know who he is. What I'm about to say is gonNA feel fairly amazing. Okay so Tom. Dempsey was a kicker in the seventies. Who had half kicking foot his? He just didn't have the front of his foot. I don't know how he lost part of his foot but the front of his foot was flat and he was the owner for the better part of half a century of the longest field goal. In the history of the sport. He was a bit of a fat guy and he had half a foot. And if that existed right now Stugatz in two thousand twenty Sebastian Janikowski with half a foot owner of the longest field goal up until what was it. It was like Jason Elam a couple of seasons ago in in altered air. Jason Elam was able to kick a field goal but the idea that that up that record held up for that long is crazy. It really is Dan just to just to shed some light on that. Tom Dempsey was born with no toes on his right foot and no fingers on his right hand so he was born that way to hold that record for that long. And that's board you're right. That's crazy matt. Prater now has the record by one yard so with all the evolutions in the sport with all the evolutions in strength training. It was half a foot fat guy who had the longest field goal and nobody could not like no human being knew how to kick one further in all the fifty years of advancement after that. Rest in peace. Tom Dempsey awkward transition. Here TO OUR SPONSOR BLINK. Protect Your family and property by installing blink cameras in and outside your home to got to tell you about blinking a second. But I'm GonNa remind you we are going to unveil some of our number one seeds and we're going to open the tournament for real or looks like tournament. We just had the play games last Friday. We're going to open the tournament for real in the next segment policy from state farm gets you collision coverage and this radio. State farm gets you coverage of this beloved nineties. Hit A car. Smile FOR MORE COVERAGE ISN'T STATE FARM DOT COM. Espn radio is presented by progressive. Jarrett's here's your sportscenter. Update the UFC believes it is very close as a carrying a new venue for UFC. Two forty nine. It's unclear this time where the location will be however sources said it's looking like it will place on the west coast of the United States Vic Schafer's ending his eight year run as women's basketball coach of Mississippi State to take the job at Texas he led the bulldogs to the National Championship. Game in two thousand seventeen and two thousand eighteen losing both times and finally there will be a new episode of Tiger King coming to net flicks for all the latest headlines and information tune into the sportscenter on. Espn radio all throughout the day. So we will get to our looks like tournament in a second but we always stop everything whenever we get some good sound from mad. Dog Chris. Russo. If you're not familiar with his work mad dog. Chris. Russo is a pioneering sports radio gas bag who worked along Mike Francesa throughout the eighties nineties and two thousands to create. The gas bag is self SMO- self serious sports radio show in the history of sports radio and just a reminder to you. Dan when we get through this pandemic I promised Russo. You will join his show for thirty consecutive minutes in exchange for me CO hosting an entire show with them out of that just a reminder. Put It on your calendar. That's fine that you've committed to it. I'm going to make you look very bad. There will not tolerate thirty minutes of spending time with that guy complaining about sports radio. Things that don't matter but billy found some sound. This weekend was at eleven or twelve minutes. Was He ranting about mad dog sports radio? What was he ranting about this weekend so kind of he was ranting about the of Brady and manning playing with Tiger and fill it sounded I like he was a man of the people but as things went on you realize it seems like he's just upset that they can play golf and he cannot play golf but he couldn't get that in in less than twelve minutes. Thankfully it's now down to two minute twenty-second Clara. We go all right. We will get to that in a second and I feel like I beat him to that story complaining last week that Oj Simpson can play goal. And and I can't and my and God's can't and you just can't arrive at a place pandemic or no pandemic where OJ. Simpson has freedom than the rest of us. It's unacceptable so I understand why it is that Chris. Mad Dog Russo is upset. Let's play that sound. Please Bristol of him blowing a gasket like he likes to do over nothing. Do I WANNA see? Somebody's skull the ball. All over the place where manning. I saw it at the. Att Challenges Peyton Manning. Got to see it again. Mickelson stop at a factor in a major championship in years. Yet at some Mickelson's idea to think the average American sports fan is GonNa die to see Brady manning jet on a private plane and play golf and have fun and all that kind of stuff on a clear day with blue skies and enjoying themselves when you get out of. The driveway is absolutely ridiculous. Go find a couple of receivers go find an empty football field somewhere with nobody on it to show food starting to everything from the shotgun. So I gotTa Stop. You the ball and I want you to explain every route that receiver runs with you as a patriot and manning as a coke every single one and give me basically a little infomercial with the with the situation and I can watch that and learn. What a quarterback thinks the receiver on his plate? What he wants me. Then I'll get into it. Play what you do batch gradient manning play a sport that they're not that much better than I thought for crying out loud. I don't need to see you play golf when I can't play. And nor can the average citizen bet pages and open all those people in a long island air play on Saturday mornings. They can't play it's close but Brady meaning because they're pretty amazing confided jetstream checks. I go to some godforsaken place that nobody in America could ever become a member of and they're gonNA go play eighteen holes against Against each other in a matchplay thing to average fifteen handicap through those who they are and they're going to say with them into the charity but we're GonNa have to pay for the charity because it's going to be you got to pay for it. There's no charity unless we pay for it and it's a bad look. We got people who broke out of work. The economy is GONNA fall apart. But it's okay for Brady and meaning to go fly play with tiger and Phil Anyway. I left the Mickelson. He's fifty years old enough and a brady. Admitting WANNA be beneficial to the American sports fan you know do some instructional film. I'd watch the NFL network like when Boorda used to do with the power sweep and a same here and is saved. And you're run this play right up the Alex. Oh the best quarterbacks of all time don't try to have fun when the rest of US might be set their houses with kids and wives but next night bots that again is one sixth the veterans on that singular subject that is only one sixth of it that is edited down from twelve minutes ten more minutes of that somewhere on the Internet. And he's right. I don't know what is the funniest sentence in there is it. What'S OMAHA MEAN? Bethpage isn't open isn't enough of. Mickelson of we. GotTa we gotta get back to that. But I promise you that we would get to our tournament. So let's not waste any more time there. I know people want to hear what some of our top seeds are. If you're not familiar with what this is it's the looks like game and listeners and viewers to ESPN news. They write what people in sports tend to look like. We see them. We normally do it as March madness but you know there have been some developments recently so you can vote on the Internet at Lebatardshow on twitter. Which ones you like better here is our first number one seeds. To God's this is going up against a sixteen but this is from the loaded. Doug Peterson category. What do we have Bristol? Doug Peterson looks like the only guests to swims in the local motels roadside pool. It's true so true hands. A PABST. Blue Ribbon I of course one-seat Colin cowherd want some. He's The sixteenth seed what is Colin Cowherd Bristol Colin. Coward looks like the Straw Sun hat wearing beachgoer in a natural disaster movie who mouths the words all crap and then wiped away by a free tsunami. Ask Good Bad bread Gardner Brett Gardner of the New York Yankees. He is a two seed. Why Bristol. Why is Brett Gardner? A two seed. Brett Gardner looks like the State Trooper assigned to protect a college football coach during a game. Gardy facing number fifteen Greg Williams. What's Greg Williams look like Bristol? Red Williams looks like you're divorced uncle who brings a call girl thanksgiving. Oh Wow we are looking at enough sour. Stu Got Stugotz. We're looking at fifteen. I College Football Security Guard state trooper. Brett Gardner Andy. Reid is always fun in the tournament. Andy Reid is a three seat here. What is representing Andy? Reid Andy. Reid looks like the small town. Sheriff that falls asleep while watching. The prisoners wakes up briefly to yell out. Who's there to no one in particular and immediately falls back asleep while the prisoners continue to carefully reach for the jail cell keys dangling from his belt. I'm not certain that should be the ones okay. You're not certain but you tell me if you're certain it is going to beat number fourteen. Danny Aines what do we have here? Bristol Danny Aines. Looks like a six. Am teatime Topi- surprised of ages of the bottom four? You gotta be careful there. This is Davis by the way kind enough to do all of this for us. Colin Coward is again. Here's a four seed. What does Colin cowherd look like as a four-seat Bristol? Colin Coward. Looks like the husband playing tennis with his wife and slow motion in CIALIS commercial. Return so Colin cowherd is facing the most loaded of conferences. To God's the Adam Silver Conference the thirteenth seed Adam Silver goes up against Colin cowherd. What Does Adam? Silver looked like Bristol. Adam silver looks like the guest bassoon est in the symphony that bows before the crowd just before he sits down to play. Tchaikovsky's Fourth Lips the back of his jacket so he doesn't sit on it. It's a little long. He absolutely looks like that. We've got more looks like for you. We're about halfway through the day. We're going to be doing this for. This is just halfway through the day on these and we've got a bunch of them now and likes to feel stuck especially by a cloud but the IBM cloud is the most open insecure public cloud for business. It can manage all your apps and data anywhere. Smart loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart work visit. Ibm Dot com slash flexible. If you missed any of our interviews check about on demand and the Dan Lebatardshow podcast brought to you by the capital one quicksilver card earning unlimited one point five percent cash back on every purchase everywhere capital one. What's in your wallet? So Stu gods I found funding right. Last time. We left the audience on Friday. One of the things we had been discussing was rex Ryan and REX. Ryan Calling Amari Cooper turn on get up and this got people upset. A lot of players noticed it. They were mad at get up. They were up for tweeting it out. They were mad at Rex Ryan for that kind of and a handful of people stepped forward and demanded an apology. Right wasn't Ian Rappaport. The first to Step out in front of everyone in demand an apology. Demanding of an apology is always a great thing in sports. It's a source of. It's it's not a it's not requesting I love the verb. The verb is what I love right. It's not asking for an apology. It's not requesting an apology. It's demanding an apology. It's not hey you might. WanNa think about apologizing. Here you came on a little bit too strong. It's I demand it your Ian Rapoport. I mean come on so Mike Ryan. How would you describe the REX Ryan controversy because he has apologized? The apology was demanded and he has apologized. And I'm going to read you his apology. Which is one of the funniest apologies that I've ever heard but give me the entire context of why it is that Rex Ryan because he's not just wrong. We thought we argued on Friday that he was wrong to call them matured but that was the second most wrong that he was the stats. Favor Amari Cooper here in terms of you know P- games that he's played in that as matter not that there have been that many of them but the ones that have matter. There's only one that's embarrassing and the Patriots players who were covering him in that game are some of the people who are mad at Rex Ryan for using the language of third yet. I mean generally against playoff competition Amari cooper outside of really embarrassing performance against New England Patriots outlined has been quite good. But here's the I guess. The full scope of this controversy is ESPN hired. Rex Ryan to be Rex Ryan and then he was Rex Ryan and we love that. He was Rex Ryan because it gave us all something to talk about and then we had to force him to apologize for being Rex Ryan. That's right well. It's better than rush. Limbaugh we hired rush LIMBAUGH TO BE RUSH. Limbaugh then fired him for being rush limbaugh progress in twenty twenty. Yeah that's right. We hire. Try TO BE REX Ryan. And this is Rex Ryan. He calls a player at third. And then this is the apology and Stugatz. I'm going to try and get through this without laughing and I'm going to fail you ready. I can't believe I said that used that word. Obviously it was a poor choice by me to say what I said about Amari. Anybody who knows me look quite honestly? I think the world of every player and have a great deal of respect for every single player in the National Football League including Amari Cooper with that being said and that is always a dangerous bridge in an apologist with that being said I think the cowboys overspent for Mark Cooper the reason for it is. I don't doubt that this is an elite elite player. He has those traits but an ely player to me shows up on the road. He shows up against great corners and he shows up and crunch time and those are three things. Amari Cooper is not done so far in his career in fact I think he's won one playoff game as a player and all of those things are how I feel about this young man as a receiver but what I added at the end of that. I WANNA APOLOGIZE. Tamari again. And hope he accepts. My apology seems like rex really stuck his foot in his mouth. What is he doing apology? He stuck his foot in his mouth. But the apology really. I thought toe the line I it's it's one of the worst apologies I've ever seen. Stir guts. It's it's not an apology. Let me about the third part of it. But he's kind of a third demand better biology. I shouldn't use this apple. That's it put it on. The poll. Lebatardshow should IAN rapoport demand. More of an apology rex. Kind of got out in front of it though. He started to hear footsteps any apologized. To God's Mike Wilpon GonNa owe you A. You should demand an apology from Mike Wilbon. He now loves the extra inning idea. Homerun derby because it's coming from Justin Turner instead of you. Justin Turner is saying give me extra innings homerun. Derby instead of boring baseball or more bonus. Baseball that people will find boring. Give Me Homerun. Derby and Wilpon likes that idea because Dan. You're right if I if we brought Wilbon on and I presented that idea to Michael Wilbon. He would laugh me off the phone. He went up to let me out of the room but he likes to because justice and a guarantee of Manfred same thing he likes it because Justin Turner Senate when I presented to him. He laughed at me. I mean it's unbelievable ahead of my time. I mean you really were on this one. You really were paypal. You were absolutely now. You got carried away with ball pits in the outfield and I think moat says a warning tracks. But you were ahead of your time and the Magic Bat to Sodano heavily on his show just to talk about the magic about everyone starting to come around my ideas great. My myron Rolle is a bit of a hero as good as athletes get and he's next GEICO presents not again another voicemail from your roommate man so I was in a rush to get to work and I left the Back Door Open Kaji shutting. I lifted wide open. While you're there could you also turn off the oven and all of the burners? My mom never let me use the oven. I wonder why the Geico Insurance Agency could help. 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"Shell from the table tops. We have maddie ice standing five foot. Ten guard from western new york. I'm not five foot. Hardcovers going to correct. I knew foot seven. We have josh. Dykstra hailing from western new york and ladies and gentlemen our special guest power forward point forward point god kayla seven four. I'll take it such fucking horse. Shit he's tech giant. That is taller than robin taller than kelsey. Now there's no there's no avoiding else how does it feel to be a part of the monumental pocus you know i genuinely. I feel honored. That can be your guys. As i guessed. I'm not gonna. I am quite nervous right now. All the pressures on your shoulders. Bud glad i can be a part of it. Oh and by the way. Just because you're here doesn't mean we get to skip the Shoutout so Shadow kale milligan. The shutout appreciate it as always tradition. So i think we got dive right in. Oh yeah yeah we have. You know what's coming to coming out of buffalo. The one time and the metro consider that was actually like i love this signing like a fucking little schoolgirl dude. I was so. I think it's a great signing for many reasons the most important being that is the one time. Mvp but another reason being naturally without a doubt the best back of quarterback sunday. We ever could have possibly made this her like. I can't name. Oh he's fitzpatrick maybe leg. Yeah that's true. I mean that's he's young. He's got potential. He's got a rocket arm. His accuracy is not quite josh allen. But goddamn it will get there. I mean yeah. I think it's i think it's a great fucking decision by the bills and a i just saw it's like it's obviously a one year contract but it's only two point five million or something like that so the bears let him go. The bears let him go sign. Andy dalton to a was it a one year ten mil when they coulda had trubisky. Or i mean i i would say those two are the most part y'all lean trubisky sampling and the bills got trubisky for two point. Two and a half million when the bears went out spent ten million dollars in one because msci t wants to be the under studied. The josh allen and the bills won a super bowl this year. He'll technically a super bowl champion. So i'm in we'll see. I think it's a good. It's good move for both of them because those disgusting quarterback coach got disgusting coaching staff. I think it'll be good for him. We got like just bouncing a year and just be a starter. So those have mad that than a lot of positions now. So i'm honestly surprised. Trubisky went to buffalo. I'd figured he'd maybe would try to get a spot with starting gig or someplace that it can come. I'm going to. that'd be. I wanna be. Obviously joshing go. I want to be blunt. I think he knows he's not the greatest. I think i think he knows that maybe some time learning underneath somebody around his age to like a young guy not just like an old vet. Who's like past his prime but somebody who's like going up up the roller i feel like he. He knows what he's done. You'll join the bills for one year. Learn from josh. Maybe get a super bowl ring. Maybe even get the start later in the year. Maybe if josh gets hurt or rhona strikes again or some shit he commented showcases potential and then afterwards they'll be released and if he goes somewhere snazzy then maybe he'll get a you know a better shot at a starting somewhere else and maybe a little lebanon shot to know accel and honestly brandon. Beane's a fucking magician so there's a very solid chance that they'll show him off in the preseason make him look like a literal fucking god with that team and then flip them for like a fucking third or some shit. Yeah he's worth of i we all. That's a bold statement every the bills are just gonna pull some fuck shit and try to secure a few traffic sally. Yeah a high flop hype up the mvp. Non fucking traded away for some pics. Maybe a few you know death depositions unplugging. Yeah we'll see i mean. I'm just glad that. If josh allen does get hurt at least we don't have some absolute like i love mark. He's grow like a yeah. He's not capable winning games for he'd be phenomenal quarterbacks. Now like mitch. Trubisky is that great. But he's definitely. I'd say the best back of quarterback in league. I think he's capable of starting in a few different places too so it's also very on top fifteen qb. I wouldn't say fifteen. Maybe like top thirty. I'd say fifteen just because there's not that many good. Qb's he wasn't the worst starting quarterback we can say that it wasn't to rattle office stats again. No we've heard them at nauseam so yeah rob slope image trubisky career. Sixty four percent completion. Almost his entire career has doubled. Touchdowns two interceptions. However multiple three thousand yard seasons has never stopped played an entire season that was because potential is because the bears trash their ownership is garbage. The gm is trashed. Their coach is dog. Water on offense at least fair. You know my huge trubisky. This made my entire day suck his dick to wouldn't fall now there. Because like i've always been a trubisky guy and everybody was oh tradition trashed biscuits trash will now. He's on the bills and nobody's gonna be like oh he's garbaged you have to like them now. Hey i've always said in the right situation he might be decent. That is my exact words. So i'm saying is patrick. Mahomes went to the bears would have been the exact them but my home ceiling was always higher but their floors. The exact same. If you get hooked by matt nagy for three years mahomes would have been the exact same matt. Now you completely miss plug in played. Trubisky he completely utilize them now is going to go to a place where he'd be properly utilized and you will learn from the goal has a backup joshua allen kaput. Well i go ahead go ahead knock gary on. I just stemming off the topic. But i saw some on twitter that brandon beane and sean mcdermott in their presser. Today about how they've utilize josh allens input on a bunch of roster moves this offseason so far which i think is absolutely crazy and that's such a good thing 'cause like it shows that they actually have a lot of faith that they fully like are willing to develop which they've shown for three years now but still it's another step of that trust him leads me into my next on the line. Got him back. There have their entire starting five what they're never really played together but they're projected starting five from last year they're all back after. Wizardry is an absolute. Did he. win jim there. Yeah you want exactly okay. Deserves a rightfully. So and he's off to a great start the great star. He's says he knows what he's doing man. He's smart he's completely turned the franchise around is without a doubt. Yeah which is great the sammy at the beginning of the off season. I thought all right. Maybe men wanna backer. We don't get mad milano back. Maybe we can get their williams back and flees ciano. Because i feel like he's kinda like the third wheel with that but to get all three of them that's why going in there was a lot of oars yes actually ends. It's just Fucking insane and to go out and you know start. Picking up guys to emmanuel. Sanders is a gigantic pickup. Yeah that's a great pick for them brings a lot is an actual route runner. That was the problem with john. Brown issues just go wide. Run straight really fast. He's not the youngest but he has a shitload of experience. He's very reliable. I watched many played down a lot. He was really fucking good even with all man. Peyton manning like still knew what he was to on even new orleans last year. He was damn solid with old manager. Exactly he's great with the old man anthony. Now he is young man. Josh lewin at the pete will not the peak. But he's you know the best he's looked ever saw him in. We'll see how it goes another great signing all these great. I can't. I don't have one negative word to say. Except except robert. Thank you can lead into levi wallace. Now here's a guy. I ain't a big fan. He's got potential. He's got a study here. I think. I said even last week last week or the week before. The dude coulda had ten interceptions last year that literally landed in his hands and just drop. He's gotta fix the stone hands. Problem stone ends. Like i get it. I fixed rob robertson. Retired context can see snag it. We're playing blind like fucking. What's his face like james. Yeah i'd say that's my best. Compare jameis winston fifty fifty a more launch. Sometimes it lands sometimes missing fifty fifty shot but now the whole deal levi. Wallace like we said earlier. You know in the group chat. I don't hate it because it is basically at your floor. Now is levi wallace. She's not great. But it's better to have a floor of levi wallace than have a floor of i don't fucking banking dane jackson. The yeah which. I think john day jr actually good. But it's too early to tell anyways you don't want to throw him in and having a dog like we don't have a second cornerback. Well look at it this way. How did levi wall get the starting job. It's because he came in and he looked really good on drafted free agent in all same thing. Dane jackson seventh round. Pick came in a few snaps. Look really good. who knows. i'm just concerned that maybe they don't touch the cornerback position at any more than they don't sign another guy and they just leave levi wallace and say art. He's rcb to 'cause hopefully don't think that is a great move. I think we're gonna number one if they're going to drop the cb richard sherman. Maybe they'll drop the tide. I i would like richard sherman or just to draft guide first or second. Dick sherman's tools in my opinion. I don't think he's got anymore. Yeah but he plays. He would go and system because he's a zone he's that yeah that's true. And he's he's got that veteran presence. Everybody respects richard sherman. I don't i. I guess is basically what the bills do with. It's kind of a. It's a man's zone combination type deal where they're basically they'll put over you know number one receiver and then basically just leave the back side corner. You know in a regular zone as you would. So i don't have a problem with bringing in richard sherman. I don't think he's lost step. Obviously who doesn't it thirty wherever the fuck is five or some i. I wouldn't be a horrible pickup because like we've said before he'd be another coach on the field to to help that defense. A i think that's what they need. This is another guy out there making decisions. This is an offshoot. But is richard sherman in the hall of fame or not so. I'm surprised it was a consensus knows. It will be. I think he's not like say. First ballot honest dominant. Is someone like dro- rivas was. He's got the name. I feel like he's has enough history like even the fucking the nfc championship game in two thousand thirteen. Where you know the whole capture thing. I think that literally that alone like shot him at the top. I literally think. That's what made him a fucking superstar. Cornerback it's been like a top three corner for his entire fucking decade now. He's been consistent. I'll give him that. He's getting old and he should've gone downhill years ago. Will he stayed fucking very reliable The crazy thing to would be is if If they do sign and that would mean back to back years they would have josh. Norman and richard sherman. So this This was fucking two thousand. Twelve people be shitting themselves. Would be while lethal. Db's there. Hey they still got ron johnson. The that's true nickel corner. No he's not a corner. He's a defensive back that is claimed everywhere. He's a monster. He's he's not he's not a cb two he'll never he can't be but like he's not he's disgusting at the job does though yeah sitting there in the ninety seven tackles last year. That's like safety numbers true. Well that's the thing too is when they play out of basically a base nickel you need a guy like that well and that's the point. I kind of want k. Abso- thoughts on this. I think that's why they gotta get rid of tremaine admin's you can't play that much nicole and have a guy that literally can't guard me as tight on out you know. I've been hearing all this made on. Been slandered on the podcasts. And every single time. I hear it. I just brush it off remain maintenance guy. I like him. I think he's good. I think he's got a lot of upside. I think he's got to prove it this year or else he might be in for some big. I think he's got a lot of upside. He's got all the physical traits he finished. I think i looked it up. I don't remember exactly. I think you seventh for position and tackles. Last year he was four and combined tackles or assisted tackles and he was thirtieth for his position in solo tackles. Yeah i mean. I think part of that is i think he was banged up a little bit especially early on in the season but still he's got some things to clean up and everything but he's got all this god given talent in physical traits set. He should be good. I mean excuse matt milano. That's the best middle linebacker ever. Yeah i think. I think you've said that maybe last podcast and i was like yeah honestly. That's that's pretty legit. Been called the most expert expert yard expert expert. Yes of course thing is though tremaine minutes. He's only twenty two. And i just looked. He's going through twenty three in may so that's still mad. Young guys come out of college at like twenty two years old and he's already had a couple of years in the league. Thanks joe burrow's what twenty four dad. He's extremely old shit. He's really old and he's already put in three years in the nfl. So i mean he still so young and he's still a lot of potential. I hope thing it's like. I wonder what they're gonna do with him though because if they're gonna pay mental animal this money as a linebacker are you really gonna put like twenty million dollars a year combined into two players as linebacker spot. I don't know if they're worth it. Assume like a he comes out in absolute tears enough this year than you gotta pay him especially since they put a first round pick in two. You got a hundred percent. I feel but i'm ruined for my guy train edmonds. All you guys can eat your words. Your words guys. This is this is my. I think he's got some room. Yeah these guys have room to grow. He does but he's he's still good. I mean i know. The pro bowl is kind of a joke. But he still made like two pro bowls even though it's kind of like the fan vote for part of it but still jordan lawyer was leading the fan. Vote this year for safeties and still end up. Data faulk lotion. People think pretty highly Like coaches and staff is what or whoever votes for the other part of the pro bowl has now. I just thought of this. Just popped into my head. You guys think about bihar. Cas not coming back Most ninety nine percent chance. It makes me sad. But i understand why i get it being talked about it at their It is Press conference today there and said that they basically just couldn't come together on a deal. Yeah damage socks. But i don't know this kid that they brought in this hack or whatever the hell his name as their he's also left-footed so you don't have to really change any kind. The ball comes off. I mean it's just i. I think it'll be a smooth transition. This kid i think was decent. Miami i mean. I don't know their stats. Were i think their averages were about the same. I think they're like long's or about the same so like it's not like a big change. Just i liked before law. I don't know either way. If if i'm paying guide punt twenty eight times a fucking year not paying a ton of money agree. I absolutely hated before. Cas like for the past two years except for this year this year i love him. I thought he was but the previous two years. All my god. I wanted him dead before this year is either a ninety yard bomb or ten yard. He literally would shake half his punts. This year is a lot more consistent. And then i know i brought it up last week too but i just gotta bring it up again. In honor of my fallen. Brethren that coffin corner was beautiful. Yeah it was dirty arguably the greatest Over yeah i would say top five. That's a few cream and his pants over. Fat mcafee creamed his pants over every single and absolute perfect a work of art. I would say it was the way it landed. And then just sort of bounced in barely. Missed the fucking. I think just bounce like an inch to the right of the steps what we fucking beauty anyone. No one else is a beauty Saber spots the devils. Ralph krueger has died. Couldn't fucking believe so. Listen to this. i'll set the scene for you. Boys i wanna say was it tuesday morning or was it yesterday morning every i think it was tuesday morning. I had a fucking way who cares yesterday. Got five my days are fucking lining up doing too much coke Blended knew each other. He for sure now. But i was listening to the break room and by the way breaking news the sabers fired. Krueger fucking jumped out of my goddamn bed. I was half asleep. And i'm like fucking let's go start doing long overdue long by fucking six weeks at least yeah. Twelve games in a row they fucking lost and most of them weren't even close so this is looked fucking with ours which granted they had some injuries like hall and fucking nickel whoever the fuck but you can't there's too much talent man. There's no there's no. I guess i say this. This team doesn't really shouldn't have excuses for why they're not playing well. Other than the fact that the coaches system was fucking horrible. Like i've said before. Basically these guys were. I mean. They have one of the best. I would consider offensive talented teams. I've seen in my lifetime just based on the names have on this team and they played a system that was so defensive and just so much bullshit that it just didn't make sense it was basically it was the old lindy ruff dumping chase but instead of the chase it was just dump and get back on defense. It's like this. I mean that's how claims matt let's be honest. You know matt it's twenty-first-century every sports league. The top teams are moving towards steefens. Oh yes clear champion. That's what the you got two thousand fifteen warriors. I mean you got all these teams focus so much on defense. It was fucking horrible. But i don't know it's a good thing he's gone. I don't know how much will change in the immediate future. But i could see i had saw something that maybe if john tortorella comes up you know get loses his coaching job in columbus that he's going to be like the number one guy the sabres are gonna be going after which could torts he actually. I don't know josh building one. That knows anything about john. Tory did you know he started his coaching career in rochester thing. I didn't know that actually yet. Now he's a fucking is great but self they bring him in at least be. There's gonna be a system in place that isn't fucking stupid. He's a no nonsense kind of guy he like. I'm gonna put no. There's going to be no offense. Everybody wearing goalie patterns. We're going to surround the nut. Nut just everybody playgirl ever fuck and shit. Logo is on the ice. Everyone shot standing in front of the cards. It would be just living a phenomenal strand. Either i heard they might go after torch. They might go after Bruce boudreau which wouldn't be horrible because he's got a nice. You know laundry list of teams. He's coached for that. Have had success. claude julien quad. Julian's another one. That has a defensive scheme but he also builds in offense whereas krueger just kind. It was like a soccer scheme. Basically of hey let's let's not give the puck away but once we get the puck away. Just sit as far back in your own fucking zone as you can. But i don't know what we'll have to see everything armor that hopefully they can turn it around like like the bills. Did i mean. I don't hold my breath but at this point the world needs a good sabres team well. Let's think of krueger as the Rex ryan of say. Yes yes. Great drake comparison feet fucking. He might have you guys seen that thing with a pardon. My take baker mayfield. Now well they pardon my take. They interviewed baker mayfield and a couple of days after all prior to baker. going on. what is it. Some football show with rex ryan part my take interviewed him and so they knew that and so they're like they knew that rex ryan was gonna talk shit to baker and they're telling him that he should make jokes like. Oh yeah i really should have put my foot in my mouth open. You probably would've liked just some crazy shit. Like was making jokes and so later on when rex ryan was talking to a couple of days after baker ended up saying something like that like not directly to rex ryan but he did reference feet in a certain way. Really fun is what a mood. I'll never forget like five fucking years ago. It was just like a picture of wrecks leg doing his fucking worker some and just in the background. It's just like one of those mobile and picture friends or whatever and just it's his wife's feet it's just feet like what the fuck out. What are you take that as well. You wouldn't have a picture of feet on your fucking dusk unless you walk to see the fucking feet. And she's fucked. Yeah it's gonna shop tariff e fucking gross. That's our next topic is feet. What do you guys think of trash. Dykstra guy roughly from me. And i think he's hiding it so much that he might actually be like big foot guy you never know. I must have some fucking things up my sleeve. I mean in the other podcasts. I forget if it was this won't or out of the pit but that was talking about selling his body so they're all my perfect these fred flintstone off else. Have kansas spiraled out of existing. Anyway speaking of big shawn watson. Now do you think what do you do. You think it's legit. Do you think it's bullshit what's happening here. I don't know. I almost don't even wanna talk about it just because like it's very enough stuff about it. It's very basic things everything so alleged you don't want to say anything come off either as You know somebody that either doesn't believe the women or somebody that you know goes too far and believes everything it said in the quicken idiot. So i'm into sean. Like everybody'd i'll say this i'm not agreeing or disagreeing with anything but everybody was described. The sean said he's like a standup dude like he would never do anything like that. But so as fading will pay payton slapped as the listen listen he was. He was a stupid young man to an stupid young man. Things maybe slip probably just trying to sign off. That's counter sorry to you know it. Oh you never know exactly all fucking yeah exactly. What were they accusing. Let's just give it some context. What are they accusing the sean of going like a massage thing or something done so something like expecting certain favors to be done. Possibly initiating certain favors allegedly allegedly. Okay big that's does not much we can really say about it because we don't know not a good time to be shown watson stuck in houston tx got all these things going on is making them break making them snap mentally who knows. It's probably bill ballot. Check trying to deteriorate is trade values. I twitter and twitter's most toxic acids but people on twitter saying that it could be something where apparently this lawyer. That's like running this lawsuit as goofy names like yeah. But he's like a friend of the mcnair or something so people are thinking it's like a smear campaign to drive down his values so that he just ended up staying in houston he soon. This is like that would be the scummy. Est fucking those plan by the texans though they would just end up trading him for like seven thrown. Pick like did that to themselves. I'm saying i. I wouldn't see there's something but kalmyk nydia so the fuck. Oh definitely steve mcnair. I mean if it was at the patriots had anything to do with that. Maybe they took a page out of the old. Bob kraft book. Oh maybe jesus exact. Ex- i mean. Yeah yeah one's a one's a purview. Oh man that people are like yeah. Whatever you know it's weird but he's a pervert man. The other one's a athlete in his prime that could lose all sorts of brand deals and money. And it's different. I get what you're saying. But i completely forgot about that. Bob kraft much different. Robert kraft is a bill disrupted under the rug. They're just like yeah. It's happened woopsie or on the move and like the flake it inspired all that shit. Deflategate what do you mean literally. You're hadn't court case around good times. That was a while ago. Now fucking weird. I feel season was like two thousand fourteen. Probably i don't know i will take to my dying fucking last words that the owner is that they came down as hard as it deflate gate is because they completely missed the ball on spy gate. Brawler makeup call. I'm sorry though that's like a dumb thing. I don't care if brady actually deflated those balls himself. That's i who cares. Oh yeah well. It's the same type of thing veterans. Oj retired quarterbacks. Came out in real life. Yeah i did that. I mean to be fair. I mean i'm just gonna be honest here. I'm just gonna hate on brady because soon as everyone was like fuck. Tom brady time. I'm just going to say it's a huge. This is before this before brady reach respect status. This is still like three super bowl rings to go which is fucking ridiculous to say but yeah three super bowl rings later. He fucking barely a thing in the back of his mind. I'm sure now. What do you miss. Four games at the start of cases and that is my god. Yeah and then one of single one of these too damn good. I can't. I can't show him as much as i students. Who players for twenty million dollar contract. There's no comparison being fucking garbage garoppolos dog shit and for said i don't even know he just sign a miami right. Thank fifteen museum. I don't think he's like great. I won't see top. Did you went to a super bowl. And they need one. Shoot people really coming down hard. He got hurt. Yeah exactly like what you've heard every year. I'd say that his biggest. He has another decent season this year. I could see people's opinions. on comeback. People considered a fucking top ten. Even top five quarterback for and then out of the blue is just like is a shitty season or an injury full season all of a sudden. It's like oh no. He's not that good more. I don't know again. People were kinda crapping all over for the super bowl. He threw like i think two picks. I'm pretty sure patrick. Mahomes through a couple of picks that game. Tell me fucking mahomes next coming of jesus christ you now jazz thing. I think the led essentially a game winning drive. Let year ten thirty. yeah yeah. i'm pretty sure they unlike some crazy tyreek hill catcher. Something right or some crazy reception so they were. They were fucking down ten with like three months ago or something crazy bullshit. Aren't there like with eight ten with seven or something left. I think that's what it was. Seven or eight minutes. Either way as fucking wild but jimmy garoppolo through touchdown head toothpicks. Patrick mahomes through two picks as well in this game i just looked at the stats and patrick. Mahomes one fucking super bowl. Mvp and everybody hates on jimmy g. Now you're preaching to the choir here. I don't think. Patrick mahomes is as good as everybody else. I don't i really don't think he is his receivers make him look like he's not good. Yeah imagine if trubisky was throwing the travis calcium tire will yeah. We'll had that old line. He'll be throw into games. That early in the pre throwing the isaiah hodgins is usa. Potentially could throw to if they want to. Just sit josh for game. But start some of the other starters he could be thrown into a digs in the whole works. There's too many to name at this point. You never know you might be thrown the everybody. But i have the utmost confidence that do viking very well. How insane that. Why does she records. That has to be the best wide receiver corn league. I mean that was already like they're gonna put out a fucking wrote running. Clinton i think the only team that rival dumb was the chiefs because travis kelsey is just that disgusting but now i would say it's the bill overall. It's got it done. It was going to say what about soccer. Imagine adding zach. That would be you know. I don't think they will. You don't think so. I was reading about it. I think that they might wants a good. Doesn't want wanna new contract. He's only got one year left on his current contract but he wants to get paid and wants to get paid top three money which is like something like want to say. Fourteen million dollars a year passed. Do his passes prime. So i could do as good as prime but like i don't know if they could even afford that can the bills since urges in like a win now situation. Now can they just toss a mid late round draft. Pick at the eagles right now on. Just eat his salary this year. They let him walk. Try to win. Throw a third and a fifth item accepted. I'd take it off. I think. I think the eagles wanna i so idiots. I just read something that the chargers and the bills are like the top two teams in the running. Neither of them will budge. So that's jared cook so yeah so that's why. I think that the bills will get it done. Just because one of the eagles gonna do either release him and get nothing or trade him to the bills and get a little bit of something trade trade your fifth round. Pick in the seventh. You just got for traded. Lee fucking smith a retired fat old glorified offensive linemen. Don't you dare. Don't you make very new. You're gonna say something me whenever you saw. Lee smith catching a ball. You weren't jumping out of your chair. I was. I would get excited but also be like damn i wish like somebody better or faster especially was in the middle of the fucking field. That's like oh there's least myth catching the ball she. He just ran for thirty five yards. But it is fun to see him catch touchdown because of israel's getting that's a fucking touchdown basically. Yeah but hey you know. I it's like i said i. I like the big man touchdown. So yeah tempe deal. But i don't know. I'd like to see them good soccer. It's also hyped up the last couple nights booking at twitter constantly seeing if any updates on happened why did you see the fucking hashtag being after dark was like us because he drafts all this stuff so late at night typically does he makes all of his deals like after ten o'clock and i'm pretty. I feel like the only reason why all this news broke earlier. Today was because they had that press conference otherwise. I feel like the mitch. Trubisky news would broke light in an hour to which would been in the classroom. That's another thing too was. It's just it. It shows how cool of a guy brandon beane. And you know sean. Mcdermott are to that. Basically they had this press conference in that like okay. We wanna make sure we tell Matt barkley like you know. We went in a different direction before he hears it from the media. What kind of stand up guys they are. It's honestly pretty cool. What are you guys thing. I think the matt barkley should honestly just call the career we probably will. I don't see maybe the might do a one year. Yeah he might tell like a one year deal with the team. Maybe do another one the year after that that that's probably a because he's getting up there in age too. I think. I don't even think he's thirty a lot. I think he's twenty nine. But whose commission at barclay exactly but like he should just retire. Who have a coaching job for. The rest of will be thirty one this year so i think as you say he could be like an assistant. Quarterbacks coach with ken. Dorsey a yeah. I mean he could do that for a few years. And then go be quarterbacks coach somewhere else and then venture assistant maybe a coordinator. I don't know. I think that that should be at least thought for him. And i'm sure you wouldn't mind it because he loves buffalo and that's always been a thing like he's not like physically gifted enough to be a good quarterback in the nfl but he's like disgustingly smart. He's a stand up guy and he's you know he's got the field. I q which is one of the biggest things. You need a coach like that. Throw the ball twenty yards. I'll miss him if he does end up coming back and some coaching role. I'm gonna mess matt barkley. He just seemed like a good team player cheerleader. Imagine you're josh allen you throw pick. He walked to the sidelines. Instead of being matt barkley it's mitchell trubisky auto odds like showing you on the ipad. What you gotta do. I can say i never ever saw this gone and never saw initial sure bisky to the buffalo bills. But i'm not mad about it at all now. I can't believe the bears didn't keep him. That's what i'm saying. You picked up. Andy fucking dalton which. I've always kind of like andy dalton after the whole deal in twenty respectable. He's just kind of always say we're non he's not wondering you a games. So i'm saying he barely won games with fucking Dallas and they have like probably offenses fucking the world's ever seen have three disgusting receivers. Like i don't know and like like the top spot for what's his name. I can't think of his name. Russell wilson why bringing andy dalton like why big cat was passed they get was a mean like he's not a bad signing like that's ten million dollars that's considerable amount of money. You could've hyping up five. Yeah exactly and they're hyping up getting russell wilson trade for shown watson blah blah. And they get andy. Andy dalton bears fans bears fans around suicide. Watch right now is the bears are downright ugly down pretty bad. They're down down real bad. Holy fuck no. That's not glad. I'm not a better son at almost feel bad for bears fans if they weren't so insufferable where they had jay cutler sleepy j. j. smoking j. smoking jay that man the not give a fuck. He was the most like tired looking. Just absolutely just didn't give a shit users. There wasn't bad kind of but you know like ryan fitzpatrick unlike fit ryan. Fitzpatrick was in like nineteen fifties motorcycle move. That's too nice to good. Oh my glad he's like okay. Here's here's a scenario. He's like if. Kyle orton and ryan. Fitzpatrick had like a weird love. Child that's jay cutler. Jake that's fucking. Yeah it's fucking on laso josse about the deal. The nfl shine while they're not word was driving and see exactly what happened now. Amazon is getting the thursday night games. the anna fowler. The new contract begins in the twenty twenty. Three susan go still twenty thirty three the over that period of time. The nfl paid a hundred and ten billion dollars from the networks and their is they're trying to implement the at seventeenth game. First of all twenty. Thirty three is not a really a second of all fucking does that mean thursday night. Footballs premium basically. But who doesn't have amazon prime. I do not. I'm pretty sure. I haven't and my parents and my parents i guess i'll be getting it to watch thursday night football. That's good already. You already illegally stream the game. Crab legal is listening. It's legal worried about it. I'm pretty sure. I thought i saw something. I'm not positive though that if like local games will be still shown like how they would normally be shown what's happening because the bills games like at are supposed to be on like nfl network get shown locally on channel seven or something i mean somebody will pick it up a huge problem but the suspect last week with the nhl doing that thing. Oh yeah now. Nfl talks about them trying to move everything on a phone that we're moving like a lot of stuff there the premier sports league in the united states arguably in the world behind like european soccer and they didn't even do that where does the nhl in the nba. Get off thinking that they can even like try. I have no idea. I couldn't tell you but i know this new deal with the nfl. Basically the way it breaks down which is just crazy wants. This tv deal starts before selling a single ticket before selling a single jersey before. Selling a single fucking pretzel in the stadium. Each team gets four hundred million dollars. Oh my that's more than the entire h ellsworth is it. Actually i fucking something like the our. I saw something like this. I think been somebody making a joke but either way i could see fucking leaving five teams. There's no way it's not a fucking wild. That is insane. what's even more insane is. I saw something. The jeff bezos could every single. Nfl team. like i think it was. Yeah i think he could buy every single. Nfl team every single one money left over. Yeah i don't know this while according to some people from here you're not supposed to make that kind of money robbie as those tight money. Yeah we're not getting nobody else has business type money. Business has business money. And that's all. I'm saying ilan mosque. Well either fucking way. Whoever stock prices higher that yeah pretty much. But i don't know that's that's wild. Though he could be he could buy every he could buy the entire fucking. Nfl every team. And then just turn it into the amazon football league and nobody would have had a fucking. I mean twenty twenty one. If i saw the headline i don't even know if i would react. Trubisky news now now. He was looking into buying washington. The washington football team wasn't he last. I knew bays should because like i saw an interview with like their front office and stuff and like they have a really good front office now not an owner. Their owners dog show but why is it. Yes dance still think it's still. He's he's nydia almost as bad as the mcnair from the texans. Yeah yeah he reminds me a lot of fucking dolan the owner of the knicks. Just recently both fucking weird rich too. Yeah yeah just weird. Rich dudes the decided by a team and then just stupid shit. Try to make every decision for the team. They're all just terrible. Yeah give me a lotta money. I might. I'll start jazzman by the sabres. Because the goal is the producers are good business people for some reason they just do not know how to run a hockey team. The football fine but like i said hockey team. That's kind of what concerns me about. The sabers is like what if they just got lucky. Yeah they might go. I think we're just been blessed by getting grand being shown mcdermott. That's perfect been. I wouldn't necessarily call it a luck thing. I would definitely say it was lucky but it wasn't just luck i guess is what i'm getting at. Is they're smart enough background. Not like dolan where just gonna like buy team and make the decision so at least give that duty to someone else. But i don't know if they know how to find that person. Yeah that's kinda the problem right now. is that the. Don't have a president of hockey apps. Let's just have kevin adams. Gm swat fear in his first year as a gm in the nhl. And he's gotta make all these crazy decisions go. Yeah yeah you know. I'm gonna fire the coach and then the progressives go okay or they tell him to fuck off which i think for most of the year they told him to fuck off and if i were semi and sort of have you watched a game. Honestly they probably. I'll probably watch five minutes. Not very interesting tag. Trending hash tag on twitter. Now hashtag worse. Kim kimble gula so that's fun of thought. It was like damn song now. Stan yes stan. That's that's that's what the third or fourth stand reference the history of this podcast Yeah i don't know either way. Where the hell was i going with that you bastard you forget where the hell i was going with. All those beyond the outline. Now it's not on the outline. It was something about kim pogo. But i can't remember what the hell's trending half. Okay no so. I don't know if you guys remember josh. Might depends but did you. Guys remember the whole deal about dwayne last year. That called into. Wer had a fucking twenty five minute rant. North sabres shit nah. I can't remember that now Well i follow him on twitter to ease the one that started this whole. Where's kim deal. Whatever he's he's a gigantic arguing. He might be a bigger sabers fan than i am. Which is insane. because i don't. I don't think i've missed a game in eight years. That is true not being able to get things with us because knowingly good sabres fans it's only good is a fantastic we right now not having the game killing me. But i can't fuck in use up all the band of our internet watching the sabres game and talking you guys on here. So i like that one episode where. You're watching the game in the near talking about thompson. I still fucking can't stand big. Walking off sucks so much fat cock. It's not even funny. I cannot stand that asshole. He fucking shoot to save his guy. He skates a fucking baby deer. Some shit i mean fucking guy's six foot eight or some fucking bullshit and he can't skate. You can't shoot. He can't hit. What the foxy playing for me. Jesus christ you say thompson and this is why. I'm so glad. I brought it up. Motherfucker pisses me off so march. I mean i think is good. Caleb you're fucking asshole was the gm of the sabers. I probably tread article just surround. Page thomas with pieces. The he needs. I mean you have to rebuild around your best flares. I'm on carol matt comments. You know i'm. I'm gonna i'm gonna stop this little rant fucking surrounded team round taylor thompson. He met you say the first. You'll be the first team to not win a fucking game. That'd be crazy faulk while you're anna jarvis because called you five time jeff skinner. He's definitely not doing anything you know. It's almost like fucking beyond the fourth line when you're a first guy that needs people around him as fucking hurting you. This built up rage savers. Anger it's fucking. It's been rough watching a game with. I don't know how you can do. Roth snyman entertaining at this point. They have no potential. That potential data shown any fucking glimpses of anything. They've no china gave watching after like the fifth game. I watched this year. The most boring thing i've ever seen. Yeah because hockey supposed be fun and they play like they play a bunch of pussies. It's horrible like thirty seconds or something will actually be happening. The next five minutes. They're literally standing But that's what i'm saying was the whole scheme of playing defense but you don't have defensive minded forwards and the defenseman aren't even defensive minded their offensive defencemen or two way defensemen. That's all it. And i mean you don't have any shutdown defenseman back there. I mean i don't know how many times i can say defense but before it doesn't sound like a word anymore. Jesus christ you know. Hopefully next year teijin thompson will have his breakout season. You know yeah for a different fucking team h. l. home. We need to start petition to get mad. To just hype. These guys up effort before every single game into i. I'll fucking do it. I will in the locker room to shit all over everybody. Not just given the pre-game speech stairs page thompson right. And the is doesn't get the fuck outta my. He probably fucking woody kind of seems like a big you know. Big fuck and douchebag. But he's also kind of wimp matt. Please say one nice thing about age thompson. He's tall the next time he can. He can skate better than i can. Buy a little bit all for reference. I can't fucking scalia. So there's your there's your nice thing. I said so before we get matt's blood pressure up to it's already fucking up there but march madness. I have two questions. Do we care and design anybody care. Nah kind of. I don't i i watch it strong kind of for both. Oh yes yeah. just i'll i'll watch it. I disliked it seems very contrived. I don't know what a better word for. It just doesn't seem lights. not same to seattle. Now it seems forced. I think it seems four. They might as well just like fuck it and put it off at the same time money and also people you know. Some people want to see it enough people where they'll make a prophet sermon. I still think it's gonna be pretty sweet like i'm gonna watch constantly as well. It's going the entirety of it. I'm gonna think i'm pumped about it. But at the same time. Maybe it's because. I'm a college basketball team. Free-agent used to be a big duke guy but coach k.'s. Not doing it for mandy moore. College basketball coaches In the forest. Turn your look. Look look at his recruiting classes over the last five years. What has he done with them. Nothing how many tournaments is you won the last ten years none well. I don't really have arguments. That man lost one game this year and said we gotta cancel the entire season. Yeah it was. The first fucking game guys wasn't gonna make it to the tournament and one player test positive for the coronavirus were done playing for the year. Like i'm done. I'm looking for a new team on a become a tar heels. Fan just despite. Do i want to say if you do that. You're the worst kind of human being. If i had to switch some a firm believer i'm not td. I'm not going to pick a new team and pick the knicks somewhere like gonzaga virginia. Virginia the word. Kelly olynyk go gonzaga right my raw. I don't know. I couldn't tell you i couldn't tell you mcintosh's no fucking idea l. Them sean see the excitement of this conversation. Brain the answer's no. We don't care about this i to a certain extent just basically the fact that it is march madness that we didn't get last year. It's cool it's only basketball. I watch pretty much all year pro college. But i don't know the more the more drive it for me is the bracket whatever and keeping you know perfect bracket for the first. I dunno three games. And then throw in the fucking thing away when there's some kind of crazy upset or get picked crazy upset and they end up getting blown out by thirty matt. You seem like the kind of guy that will pick all number one seeds to go to be eighty to do that or have no idea what you're talking about sports precisely kinda kinda kinda why you know with the whole deal with nick. We told them just pick high seeds at that point. It's easier than trying to explain to. You know who's good. Who's not good. Who might be good. Who used to be good. Who will be you know. it's easier to be like. Yeah pick the whose had thirty you know. Top first round draft picks in the nba and hasn't made it past the final four in the last ten years. So i'm saying you know shit like at exactly. Yeah i do think august be. You know i think they'll it. I pick them to win it in a couple of my brackets and i think on my third one iowa taking it all which i think. I was a really really good team to. They're pretty nasty. I have no idea some knock and make pick having watched single college basketball game. The closer is click on michigan. Making it to at least the elite eight in all of my brackets word mitchell. Trubisky go to college north carolina. Yeah i was gonna say. Actually actually sure ashley tournament yes. They're actually yes. Go north carolina. Oh man i still eat seed syracuse and saint bonaventure. And then after that. It's kind of just who i've watched a couple of games of the syracuse of for five minutes. I four fourteen non their love. And so i think they're playing was at san jose state university. Should be okay. What saint bonaventure eight. Nine the bunnies are a nine. I believe they're playing. Lsu academia really fucking good game by the way. Yeah i might. I say bonaventure is better than they get credit for but because they are in such a weird like conference that they don't really get the you know what are they now. They're in the fucking like a ten or some shit like it's a weird conference most shah. I gotta look this up. Shot there in that. They're in a fucking division. In the. I wanna say like rhode island's in their division. The more we talk the more pumped Atlantic time you see. I know something's not much. But i know i mean v. c. in to use of locking good team to care what anybody says basketball college basketball's one of those things there were. It's hard to pick. I mean obviously it's hard to pick brackets. Because there's so many upsets and everything. But i i don't know i've never i get why people like college basketball more. But that's Giambi as way putter basketball in general. Just sox's sport right now. I'd rather watch paint dry. I'd rather watch t.j thompson skin. I thoroughly enjoy watching teach thompson skater. On the ice. And just have matt compensated. The third time i would pay throw insults. I don't think is this a like this type of conversation type commentating or is this like a button up. can't swear. Oh no you can say whatever you want. Okay good because i would call a fucking idiot like a fucking hurt gazelle giraffe or some shit hole fucking. Anti was he sucks. I can fucking while that really hurts. Look at my bank account plead. Yeah i don't give a fuck. I mean. he is making more money than i'll ever make. That's fine but he fucking blows have a lot of animosity towards him because he's the only thing about trading they got fucking absolutely fleeced on that is one of the worst trades in his of any. Nothing think you'd be really funny though of thomson. Just out of nowhere was just nasty. Had like some like crazy life but not like consistently. It'd be funnier. If he added a twenty game stretch where he is disgusting. And i just went back to being taste thompson. Aero mac correct me from rondo formula quick. No the second gail. Look out your window for me real quick robbie you see anything out there to curtains close. Okay well either way if you look out your window and something happened like that we're taste house was good. You see fucking pigs flying to. I was wondering where you're going with that. What kind of fucking thing is me too. I was very close. Your fucking toes boys. I liked the premise. I'd give it a four out of ten. It took a little while. And you didn't have your window open everything it's just you know you gotta stay on your feet. Sometimes boys fanshawe man were they. Hyping take off at the beginning of the season. Yeah say were very much so because he looked good in a couple of fucking inner squad scrimmages against other believe it or not absolute fucking dog shit hockey players kind of sounds like you need to stop watching. Think you hate the same as more. They don't think it's good for you matt. I think i'm going to have a fucking heart attack. If i have to keep washington but at the same time i can't stop it's like a train wreck but like i don't know how to explain it. A train wreck that you can't stop watching but at the same time party is like you know what i wanna watch. This like. actually legitimately watch. This is not like. I can't look away. 'cause i wanna watch this and then i get pissed off and then it's a vicious said smashing things and crying. I want us to call them down. And it's a whole fucking tobacco i can see. I can see matt's mother just being like matt. You need to calm down. You need to stop breaking things and swearing when you watch. Let me tell you during the afc championship game. I walk in was passed and fucking shit shit. Mom's like it's just a game like no the fuck it's not. I can't watch with my family. I get yelled that to my half halfway. i watch it. I like to watch it by myself. Me and my brother bring the same intensity. My dad brings the same intensity i do too. We'll stand up and fucking literally like attacker roughs fan and shelly bad call. It's fucking tried to that shit out in the real world you get killed. I mean i don't. I don't usually go after people's families you know. You gotta cut deep good chris. What matt does you're telling me you've never called rough wife a whore come on well. I can't say that. I feel like a half. I know kayla pads he brings the same type intensity i do. I mean i wouldn't call that intensity. I would call that being a lunatic back at the game so sure well. I think this is a good spot. I'd say a good cliffhanger. You have a lot of good clip from this one. I'd say i think he. Can you know if any if any investigate investigation wanted to pin matt down as a psychopath. I think you could getting off from this thing together. We'll man caleb get arrested for fucking crazy. Acts of violence wall threaten this. You're just roping him into this. Go down elaine thompson. Range rep some others. A horde ship family lives not their mothers. Mothers are probably fine women. Thompsons going to bring of us. Shot from the tabletop people in me. Because the frisk gusts he's gonna buy us all extravagant gifts and take us out somewhere nice and he's just shit all over. I want to send off stage towns. And that's what's it going to fucking shins you. I'm gonna do average things five to give my life savings to getting him on this aisle like buffalo sabres superstar cage top sinister. I'll be so pissed. Listen to any of this. You'll fucking be like absolutely promotes. Birthday will get tej thompson. Like i wanted to like the kid. That's the thank as. I wanted to like the kid even when we went to the games last year there before covid member. When there's a time where you did like him well yeah even remember. It was like she was six foot eight. He could skate then he was actually kinda my physical or you can check a little bit. He had like four goals that year. He wasn't horrible. It's like by that time. I think i was still delusional from the whole rhino riley trade. Now i'm just delusional in general but we're gonna we're gonna leave this off here before incriminate myself anymore. I think that you need to stop watching the sabers. i think it would do wonders for your mental. Guess what. I'm about to do as soon as i'm done with this so i mean it's he's gonna abusive acts. It's like a heroin addict. Okay how 'bout you know. you shouldn't be doing. How about you still with heroin addiction. Nah i think it's just. I wanted their job. Yeah well okay. Well either way watch next heroin by right crack sweep. Spend your favorite dance team sparkle modi.

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Who's On Top

First Take

30:26 min | 1 year ago

Who's On Top

"Good morning and welcome to I take on Roswell as filling in for Molly Yep Stephen a Smith Max Kellerman. All crew is in the building live of in New York. Are you doing what's up. What's going on a lot to talk about today absolutely absolutely good to see you know. It's so nice to see you all right. Let's let's get right to it because we just heard a clip of former. NFL Coach and ESPN analyst Rex Ryan criticizing Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield on get up this Monday and and then maker clapped back at him with a subtle jab of his own guys is is it fair to call Baker Mayfield overrated Stephen is it is that's not to say he is overrated but but it is fair to call him that at this particular juncture because more so than the early season performance of Baker Mayfield and the Cleveland browns remember it was preceded by by the Chipper Chitchat. You know talking a little bit too much about what they were going to do instead of recognizing effect. You hadn't accomplished anything yet. This is the national football league and one of the reasons why bring it up is because let's say for example Max. We're talking about the NFL and obviously Roz. We're talking about the NBA. That's a little bit different different because guess what Max I could lose a game right but I can still drop forty fifty on your boss. Your you know what you know and everybody will know even in in a loss and in the process of it guess what the likelihood is. I'm GonNa live another day to see you. You could get your chest caved in you can get your knees shouted added. You can get your knocked up. Saya head to the point where concussion protocol as a perpetual thing in a in a game of football. You can't be chat like that before you accomplished anything and there was a lot of that going on with the Cleveland browns and then what do you have. I want to make sure that I'm clear I am in no way saying that Baker Mayfield Camp Ball. I'm in no way saying he doesn't have it but I think he has the potential to be a star and I think he's had some really really good moments but what I'm saying is you've led the league and then exceptions since you started quarterback for the Cleveland Breath yet nineteen interceptions nineteen interceptions. Excuse me and it was fifteen. He's sixteen games. You don't need to talk. That's the whole point and so when Rex Ryan comes at him. Let me tell you I had no problem with his clapback at rex six. I thought it was I thought he had a valid point in terms of wrecks you work with us now. We all know you'd rather be a football coach but worked with us so that was a good comeback but right to remind Baker Mayfield we could sit up there and we come ally Rex Ryan as a head coach in the jets and Buffalo. You can't belie- man as a defensive coordinator Relying Bull Knowledge Rex Ron. I know something about football and he is an elite mind on defense. Why Rich Ryan is it. Somebody's he's defensive coordinator right now. It better be because he didn't want the damn job because there's no reason why shouldn't have it so with all that being said. Molly pointed closing this Baker Mayfield feel is it overrated in its totality but at this particular moment in time does he look a little bit overrated. You're damn right he does and oh by the way Rex Rex Ryan was justified in saying it because he has the qualifications to see it as a defensive coordinator going up at the place. It's not fair to say Baker Mayfield's overrated. It's not fair to say that based on three games this season now this is predictable. Baker Mayfield and Rex Ryan beefing. They're just the like Baker Mayfield trying to do it unlike anyone's ever done it really at least maybe since Joe Nemeth right. Can you be this kind of personality and a successful zestful. NFL quarterback is what me Johnny Menzel interesting. Can it be done. Nope most has never done. Has It ever been done Baker Mayfield's trying to do. I'm GonNa talk that talk. I'm GonNa go as though I'm not really the quarterback of a franchise. I'M GONNA carry on with the antics and college. He's in the pros talk. I'M GONNA try and back it up and even when it's is not going well. He's Still GonNa tell that tells you how he feels sodas bigger so this was predictable. Everything Rex Ryan said Stephen Accept the characterization that he's overrated is true. Baker has to deal with that. You won re quarterback now yup. We see it was taped of course he is can he outrun guys is on defense in the NFL nope. He's getting chased down so those things are happening. Rex Lines analysis is true. I don't agree with him that Baker's overrated but but I'll tell you something else what it comes down to for Baker Mayfield more than any other player in the NFL is like at the end of the rams game chance the tire he bailed Mr Receiver bailed and threw the ball away basically and they lost the game the reason I believe in Baker Baker Mayfield because I think over the long haul he's going to make those plays but he's not making them now. You can't say he's overrated based on what he did in the second half of last season right but I got you I got up. Here's the deal you can may say. He's overrated Max. If you look at Max Kellerman because don't let me get some tape on Mr so Paul Bill Star re Cleveland Cavalier the Cleveland Browns the championship contenders that didn't come from me that came from me yet and it did it just his Co.. From you because Odell Beckham Junior arrived is jealous of you are about this because obviously fitness to you. Might I apologize. I I love my because I don't have must have heard it for me to bring up the giants. Ob I saw him. Yeah my my bed. I'm mean to come and take all of them. All I'm saying this. You were talking about Baker. Mayfield like he was anyone Patrick Mahomes. That's that's how you were talking about how he played second half last season. Excuse me my daughter back home in highlight some of the opponents he was going to guess Max I did. I did bring up effect. I said Max a level of competition you any Damian or marcus were here. Orion and I was like wait a minute. Max Damn schedule Louis when it gets at half the timeline the quarterback starting quarterback playing against all them saying that you is that a highlight those points so when somebody brings up overrated based on people blow the aiding and based on the expectations looking at let me looking years look right at this is what I'm saying right now those why you can't say he's overrated okay. Could you get juries always out with guys. We've got to see him perform. Its three games so far three games. They have one bad loss loss. They hosted the ranch who are the defending. NFC Champions. They were a play away from time that game in the fourth quarter. That's why I say Baker who makes that one. They wind up eating the ramps. No one is saying anything about Baker. Mayfield being overrated comes down to one play and now you could say he's over it. How much is it that he's overrated. Versus a victim of the hype you know because now to the second half of last season he was great. Everybody's got him on his radar. You literally have opposing. I think players saying we WANNA bust them because everybody's saying team. Let me get on get on me because as the outstanding reported that you have proven because in this industry whatever it is you know. Why would someone be overrated? It would be only because of the high without the height. You have no real rating. That's really what it comes down to the point I'm trying to make to you is of course it's because of the hype. The question is who generated the hype. It wasn't just the moves that they made. It was how they were feeling themselves. It was during the preseason where you felt. You didn't need to reps apps when you felt that you could when you felt that you didn't need to be out there working. It was during a preseason we saw Colin Kaepernick throwing. BJ football's instead of bacon not to say that they didn't do it but without the cameras rolling but optics matter the optics you guys were giving off was that we got this so as a result and now that we see that you don't you going to look at two people. You'RE GONNA look at Baker Mayfield. You'RE GONNA look at kitchen's very look. There's also one issue I think that sticking out about maker in the wake Baker in the way mccaw an Acre and the way he talks wreck segue. He said that's fine really he's an analyst. He gives his opinions. That's why he's on. TV's not afraid to give his opinions but he's also an elite defensive coordinator matters of course it matters. Baker Mayfield is told about out the quote. Everything Baker said is fine the Great Hall kitchens what he says he says the only colors we need to worry about our colors and everything is fine right up until Baker. He always has dual extra. He's not wearing any colors like that. Last line at the end shows do not only did he get to Baker's feelings right but Pekar is willing to go to places that franchise quarterbacks and my retort to that would be it's fine with that. You're willing to go places. I love that about making me feel but guess what you'll gain has to go play Australia. Gay to go place. Ah My mouth can take me places. Don't mouth can take you places your mouth. They could make it. Don't mean a damn thing unless you're gain gene takes you there too and I believe it will because I believe in victim. They feel all I'm saying. Wait a minute. 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GYCO and see how easy it is to switch and save on Condo insurance Thursday night football heads lambofield tonight as the eagles attempt to avoid their worst start since drafting Carson wentz meanwhile that bad man Aaron Rodgers and the packers are hot to start but the season and looking to go for no for the first time since two thousand and fifteen so Max will start with you know wins tonight between the two of them packers win. Look I know why people would look at Thursday night so far so wait a minute. The road team won two of those games week. One doesn't count because Thursday is like any other day. It's not like you're coming off a short week not really and so the packers win week one as the road team who cares next week panthers lose as the home team right but I'm Cam Newton was as it turns out on one foot so there was a real reason the panthers weren't really operating well then the jags went home and if we we look at last season in recent seasons road teams on Thursdays get slaughtered their defense is tired obviously right and and so you look at the packers reason that there is Aaron Rodgers hurt no rogers due for a big game yes yeah we think Amazon's good week four and they no big performances so you have an Aaron Rodgers with a defense at home short week due drew for a big game against an eagles team. That's kind of as I said like not playing demoralized exactly but not really playing for Carson went the way they've played for. Nick foles over the past couple of seasons. This has all the ingredients and I'm expecting a packers win according to hoyle that's not exactly the right expression for this again. Let me say this. It's more emotional than anything else and we'll go with the eagles to win the night's game and the reason why I say it's emotional is because this is this season on the line. As far as you don't win this game. You have no shot at winning the division because you'd be probably three back of the Dallas cowboys. You'd have even if you beat them twice when you face them during the season you'd still be a game back for crying out loud. I just think that's an insurmountable. Oh situation overcome. If you're Philadelphia Eagles I think they know it and I think the heightened level of urgency will definitely take fold. Let's also remember the fact that this is still the ninth ranked offense offense the notion of the fact that costs a winter's completing only sixty one percent of his passes. This is a misnomer Mac Holland's dropped passes mile sanders running back has dropped passes acids the rookie wide receiver J o Sega whiteside. He dropped touchdown pass to gain to drop passes separate victory from defeat. Okay Okay so when you look at the multitude of individuals dropping passes along with the fact that the Sean Jackson is out no Sinaga law he you know he he's he's been there. He's dropped some passes as well. You Got Alshon Jeffery. He's been out with a calf. He's coming back so I'm looking at it. From the standpoint Jeffrey back still did Zach Ertz he he was supposed to be shining. Obviously you'RE GONNA go deep with Sean Jackson spread the underneath for leave it wide open for him to. Shaw Jackson's not this so it's a little bit harder but this is brother still one hundred sixteen passes last year without a deep breath for the Philadelphia Eagles so the way I look at it. You're going into Green Bay. I'm not saying that their defense is not is not good because we not defense is significantly better than it has been in the past because one of the top two ranked defense in the NFL like right now but I also think that that's a misnomer careful lead that in one off season the Green Bay packers went from that to what they appear to be now. I just find it hard to believe so I think it's one of those situations where their defense is good but not great. I think Carson wentz could potentially expose them. I think other guy's GonNa step up and stop dropping the damn passes but crying like catch the ball tonight and I think the eagles escape with something along the lines of third at three thirty at Lambeau field and they save their season by winning the night the Eagles offensive line has not played up to expectations trolling in there's and the cowboys I obviously have and when you say this win for them. I disagree with that too. I don't know that the cowboys boys are GONNA go into New Orleans and come out with a win just because bridgewater bridgewater solid quarterback and you know I love me some Tesa Hill and on top of that the saints have a good run defense so so that could be a win it could be that even if the eagles lose their to back of the cowboys and they can go on a run because they're a very talented team you bring up the receiving core and the interesting thing about the eagles is at skills positions other than Earth's was tight end you. They have a lot of good receivers. Do they have a great receiver. No they have guys who can re- W- who's the great running back on the eagles exists doesn't believe it or not as old as they need to utilize Darren sproles right. It's it's amazing. It's amazing. What Sixteen has value. It's unbelievable but they don't have really when you look at the offense. It's the kind of offense that needs to be. Well coordinated right. They have a lot of pieces that can do a lot of things but they don't have Julio Jones it receiver or or you know saquon Barkley running back they. It's just not that kind of offense when they're a little discombobulated especially coming off short week. I do not expect them to put up thirty point. Listen better. You've pointed out hey the receivers have dropped balls and passes the running back. So how much are you willing to put on Carson. Wentz like I mean how much is on the line for him. In this game and Lissette Lissette he needs to protect himself a little bit better. Sometimes he's without run with the football. I saw a couple of times house. We actually got down. I was happy about that but he needs to do that. With more regularity and recognize the fact that there is no nick foles backing up the urgency is on him. It's his franchise franchise. He's the guy that gave one hundred and seven hundred nine million whichever one it was in guaranteed dollars. Show up and handle your business and stay safe outside of that. These guys have got to help him them by passing about catching the football. You can't have guys dropping passes and fumbling the football all over the place especially against Amer Mirages because you can't give him too many chances at the APP. I don't give a damn how much on the offense struggled in the first three games or so. Let me tell you something right now. This this is Aaron Rodgers. You up bed brought. You cannot do that with him. I thought that two quarterbacks facing enormous pressure coming into this season where these two guys Aaron Rodgers okay now. You got a new coach. How's it going to work out now and then little did I know the defense. Will play like this you arguing yesterday that puts more pressure on them. Over the Long long-haul I agree game forgave. Maybe yes to do less now but on it to be successful maybe it'll help play within a system better but but in the low on over the long haul yeah yeah you have defense to Carson Wentz dude you made the Super Bowl but without you won the super bowl without you. You made a playoff run once you went down enormous pressure but thought this matchup in parallel universe is bigger than it is in this one because Patrick mahomes exists if Patrick Mahomes didn't exist to me this would be Aaron Rodgers the most talented guy I've ever seen it to position versus the guy who maybe could replace him on that list. You know going forward. Carson wentz could be the next guy like wow he's just more talented bigger stronger faster with an arm or at least maybe not bigger stronger faster but of all the a guy his size who can run like him etcetera who has all those characteristics at that level pitch that high. That's not really a a potential changing of the guard or passing the torch type game because mahomes exists to me. It diminishes it a little bit. I don't think it diminishes it at all because you're talking about Amri Roger Roger just because you have somebody that's other worldly in so phenomenal doesn't take away from the greatness of others that are his contemporaries Amer Rogers Erin freaking Rogers and when you look at the Eagles the NFC East by virtue of the fact that it forces you to talk about the cowboys the giants etc that makes a compelling as well also looking forward to it. ESPN continues its annual countdown raking the NBA's best players and players number ten through three have been released now keep in mind. Katie is not on this list because he's expected to miss the entire season now of significance in the nine seasons of making this this this season marks the first time that Lebron isn't in the top isn't the top ranked player in the league the top two spots and their order have as yet to be revealed but one thing we know is that it's some combination of Janas onto the Kubo or Leonard so Max Lebron checks in at number three Do you believe that he belongs in the top two. He's right where he belongs it three right now exactly where he belongs. Look you with your disrespectful. Whenever I hear talked about career accomplishments. I'm talking about right now. You're evaluating football player baseball player basketball player whatever it is and you're talking about them right now. The scouting report says it's not respectful scattered report tells the truth about these guys if I yes scouting report yeah if I hear respectful respectful at disrespectful. I know I got him. Lebron James has done the following okay starting at four five years ago off. Maybe three or four years ago. He took his foot off the gas during the regular season because he was an older wiser player. He kept his his eyes on the prize. It's the championship and he knew I can't be out here playing like he did in his second year at Miami Third Year at Miami. When he was one of the all time great defensive players could legit? Gore not just switch guard. I freaking positions and do every single thing you needed him to do. On offense he was in his physical physical prime then declined a little bit as he got older. He compensated by getting smarter. That's why he's playing at the highest level ever this deep into his lag this many minutes of play nearly as well as Lebron but that's because now here's how he compensated for that during the regular season K. D. Got Lebron. He's better than liberal. Ooh Staff is better. Oh James Harden had a better season than Lebron except when over fifty percent of the teams make the playoffs it is absurd folly to say anything like that until the he ended the playoffs and at the end of every playoff even when Katie won the finals. MVP because his wife was a thousand times better you can stop. Lebron is better than all these dudes. Let's stop it. He always had the playoffs to prove it. They missed the playoffs. Lebron didn't have that chance to prove it and given another year older coming off injury at our at again. Deep Burn cruden anyone who's ever played this well. We can't just assume that he's going to go back to the guy he was two years ago. In the meantime what happened Leonard destroyed the whole Universe Kurai said going into that series against the honest. This will determine the best player in the game. You know why Jaanus is hungry right now. Kawai ate his lunch grown man business coup. Why was so much better than it anybody else in the playoffs except for a healthy durant that was close so give the edge to defensive leaf one of the greatest to ever we did it and then all of a sudden is offense almost matching that champion? Kawhi Leonard Finals MVP for the second time. I let her okay no. Why is the reigning and defending best player in the game until proven otherwise and that includes Lebron James you finish. Is it true that you have no problem with the Greek Freak Jaanus COMPO- being number two above Lebron James correct right. There's the brother don't have a jump shot yet. Okay I understand. Let's not get into defense. We understand both sides of the ball. I give you that Greek freak very formidable but daddy what you just finished talking about. So I'm addressing your points. Okay we understand that WANNA play by play basis because Lebron James's older considerably older than a Greek freak older that let it got sixteen full seasons in the Business Fairway Sixteen Trotta. He Ain't trying to finals runs every year. They wouldn't be stay with me. I'll let you speak listen because come into something here. I'm going to concede league defensively. That's not what we're talking about here because they play defense practically every play Lebron James takes defensive player. We get that if you bring it up. I don't want to hear damn word about Lebron James. Let me say this and it just because of the cheerleaders. The Damon Jones Paul's Maverick cod or whatever what do Lebron has out there waving blah blah blah whatever he wanted those dudes bobby it because I do. I need to put up the tickets because that'd be because my God rods. I don't know if you know this. I insult Lebron all the time because I had the temerity mitigated goal appoint out there. He's only number. Two what the rush of basketball history maybe nothing of his philanthropy sorta having a great director actor businessman this man. I just WanNa make sure because Oh my God I've been soft and Lebron James by knowledge. He's Mount Rushmore basketball but not better to join. My got shoot me dead. Okay let me get to that point. Jordan not gonNA join us by God sent to mack wanted. What did you go. Here's the deal brought to a career twenty. Seven points per game scoreboard is twenty eight point nine in the postseason fifty research for the field of the regular season forty nine percent in the postseason. This is the one thing Max in his slick self never briggs up and that's where I got you because because Max Kellerman you did the the blue does looks moving right now. I don't know if this was but it does look cool but anyway what we do is what we do. Lebron James would be said Max Kellerman when you raved about Lebron James's recently as a year two years ago about the greatness of Lebron James. You you said something about him then. I've never heard you say about the Greek freak. I've never heard you say about Kawhi Leonard and that is how much better he makes other guys you you talk about their greatness this question Linda his last two full seasons. He's average at least twenty five. We don't what he does. Defensively Degree Creek is incredibly formidable. How do you defend somebody body that can get to the post season. Let's get to the whole we get all of that. These brothers Ain't Lebron James. The other four guys on the core don't see off of and have their games elevated to the degree there it does willowbrook on of corporate and remember talking 'cause I might be accused of criticize him because if you don't sit they embarrassed the ultimate Lebron James Stop the process. Everything has gone. Everything's got awry. Okay so mind you everybody else on the planet of say Stephen Giving them props breath promise you right now. This is him and his campus up believable but let me tell you something. Le Bron is better than Kawai. Y Look Braun is better than the Greek freak. Legrand James is still the best player in yeah. No evidence the only evidence you have. Max is the fact that he wasn't participating in the postseason and they were the benefit his exactly it may be coat when last seen you have to go the real. Lebron hasn't been seen since the playoff layoff of the premiums. Let me ask you this question. GonNa to one of those guys that for the most part believes that injury should not take away the mantle in other words. If you edge it and you weren't playing. Let's see what you have compact the unique circumstance with Zeke. We've never seen a guy vis vis deep into his career still among the best players in the game ever look what book so if you had a best seller but the last time we saw this brother brother in the playoffs we know what he did and left so we saw him during the regular season when he when he was playing the Lakers would have fought seed in the west and then he goes go down Soda Soda Lonzo Ball really in this conversation tremendously positive effect on that he had a positive positive effect but the difference making he was a contributor. We get into the come woman. How are we going to be a manager now. You've got me sit on the project tape. Like how can we stripped the HAM. Let's his supremacy because he got. Let's back up for a second. I don't WanNa Table Antenna company simple because that's a legit argument. I want to focus on Kawai. Okay Kawai Leonard. I've thought when last healthy if you can't strip guy when these injured before co I got her in San Antonio there were plenty of people and I was one of them who thought he was the second best player in the world not K. D. Kawai because Kawais defense was on its own level and then suddenly his offense while not quite as good as Lebron was on their level. He was third out of three if you want to compare them but but all of a sudden it's like oh wait a minute. Kawhi has MVP level offense to go with that defense a proven champion Mac so when he got back from injury. Let's see how he played regular season. He was an elite player playoffs. He was a monster. Ron Is thirty four thirty five years old. If I remember correctly whatever he comes comes back okay we understand that the Lakers had this struggles or whatever I'm talking about h straight trips to the final he bought how he made others better random numbers I did dip and oh by the way to all day the old man with Lebron James who got more he issues than me by the way I just want to stay for the record okay. He has more issues than me fifty all right here. I got an excuse about Lebron of goes on and look. Here's the deal. Let's look at this the last few games Max since February. Let me just throw this out you thirty three thirty one twenty seven twenty seven thirty one thirty thirty six twenty nine thirty three twenty five twenty nine twenty twenty-three you agree. This is not the only totally agree with that. All I'm saying is we did not look at Lebron. James and see stuff was such a precipitous drop off. What else can we not trust this brother. He's an elite physical condition. This is what I mean about. This is what I mean about disrespectful. I'll believe it when I associate Lebron James Brown Brian James hasn't been the best version himself which he saved through the playoffs since the playoffs over a year ago why letter he deserved August destroy three from you forgot who I'm listening to Mr Cliff with Tom. Brady not bad my back when you don't respect the greatness that people record Max football right now you've got to go you are bringing and right now. We're going to revisit this later later in the show blasphemy man.

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Hour 1: Tampa Tom's First Loss

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Hour 1: Tampa Tom's First Loss

"Morning it's time to get off with them cowboy this morning the in big Stanford did you see that call or did they get robbed? We'll start there. Tampa Tom looks disgusted afterwards is heartening debuted. What exactly happened to an offensive should be much better. Meanwhile, Brady's old team with its new quarterback looking very comfortable through week long is camp writing the beginning to a successful economic will answer all those questions and more days with get up coming to you live from above the Heineken River deck at pier seventeen. Delighted to be back. DELIGHTED TO HAVE REX Ryan back in studio feels good. It is a Monday and it's great to see you. Dan Orlovsky is ready to go Ryan. Clark with us this morning we've got football to get to. We begin at the end of your NFL Sunday he would go game of the night cowboys rams, opening up the brand new so-fi stadium with no fans in the house take a look pre-game several rams players taking a knee during the anthem cowboys owner Jerry Jones standing with his hand on his all his players save for one would stand during the playing of the anthem as well, and then to the action we go early second quarter cowboys down seven nothing racks stacked Zeke who's going to stop this nobody's going to stop right here. You see the most complete back in the league perhaps. It just one of those you know four or five weapons dollars has and I expect to see this offense just dominate and. What is that at the feed me? The my tattoos a little bigger. Twenty two carries ninety six yards at two touchdowns in total now. down. Fourteen thirteen on a first down Robert Woods emerging rack says his favorite target. Yeah. One of the most underrated players in the league the only guy that didn't have success with him was me but this gets the hang of a receiver as Malcolm. Brown. Now, taking cash in the drive, his second touchdown today eighteen carries seventy nine yards. A twenty two, fourteen, lead twelve minutes left in a three point game. Mike McCarthy does not kick the field goal two tight rex what do you think? Oh, he's he's going to this analytics analytics. And out stole out, you got to kick that field goal. Especially, if you've got the better team cowboys, turn it over on downs where they get another chance until here's the play will be talking. All Week Long Prescott Michael Dallas Volunteer Forty seven yard game they're going to be enraged to win the game but hold everything O. T.. Rex is a good call. Oh, no way. Is it a good call? Let me tell you that right now that you seek Alabama extending the arm on Jalen Ramsey, Ramsey may be selling it just a little bit. Take away the huge gain sends the cowboys back ten yards rex doesn't like it at all. We'll find out what he thinks in a moment. Meanwhile, two plays later fourth in two, thousand, thirteen seconds. Stack trying to make something happen. He would throw for to sixty six on the day but that's how it would end jared Goff to seventy five rams win twenty, two seventeen, and afterwards all anyone was talking about where the three letters o. p.. It was clear as day if they wouldn't have called dead I would've been. Highly, upset So it was clear as day in my opinion. But said, that's what I saw in filled out there just watching it live. It looked like two guys hand fighting I thought it was well executed I was surprised there was a call there either way. So very obviously disappointed in the call. For, the referee Tony said afterwards I can tell you it was clear and obvious on the field of a hand into the opposing player, a full arm extension that created separation in all situations that would be called. We're not going to allow that at any time of the game. So rex has made it clear where he stands Dan Orlovsky where do you stand was? That's the right call at the end of the game last night. Yeah greedy that's offensive pass interference. It's the right call. I mean, if you just Jalen Ramsey, run stride for stride with Gallup and all of a sudden separation, and so you have to ask like wh, where did that separation come from the separation comes from Gallup's sticking that right hand does Jalen Ramsey sell it. I don't know maybe but there's still that separation it makes me think of the Super Bowl called last year against George biddle. It makes me think of the Rudolf, play against the saints last year once that separation happens those reps got ask why did it happen and it happened because that's stiff arm. So that is the right call there and that's coming from an offensive guy that's. Rex Epochal No. I'm telling you right now greedy when I see it this thing in Dan gave four examples of 'CAUSE that we've seen made before, I can give you a million examples of calls that have never been made because this is just contact. What happens is look I never realized Jalen Ramsey heck of an actor too. He's in Hollywood go ahead. You get an acting class because he ends up standing up shoulders he's smart and he ends up getting the call. The Guy was even when you're even these leaving Gallup was clearly getting ready to go behind him and it's just a smart play by Jalen Ramsey but it's the wrong call. We will never know how this game otherwise would have ended. Meanwhile, let's talk about other things from it wrecked that of the. Dallas cowboys zeke elliot good against seventeen point they score or last night. What did you see from the cowboys offense? Yeah. That's what's so disappointing look they got all the weapons in a world. So you expect this team to come out with the talent that they have to put up at least twenty, five, thirty points a game There's no reason to think you're not going to get that and so when you only are putting up seventeen points. It's a huge disappointment. Dan. Why do they only put up seventeen points last night? Lack creativity was a big thing. I have to be honest their offense didn't didn't look creative. Second Draws, wonder You. And I gotta be honest with you, I he's got to get more creative. There's way too much firepower for this team to get seventeen. This is like when you go and get one of those illegal packs of fireworks one of those big jumbo packs and you think it's going to be amazing and you light it in the fuses just a dud like he was a dud last night by the cowboys offense and I know we're all going to talk about the cowboys defense they gave up twenty points on. The road and still lost your way to explosive in way too talented. You did not dress CD lamb in the first round at seventeen to scores seventeen points. So they gotta get more way more creative on offense and I'd say this don't finish the game over seven on third down. Don't finish the game over seven on third down and so it was kind of a I guess a emblematic performance by the cowboys offense pretty good. Their quarterback played good. But not good enough. It's still loss on the road. With Dan as. Twenty six teams in the NFL. Here's the only thing I'll say here we are talking about Dallas Cowboys team that we say they have all the talent in the world to get the only scored seventeen points because they're bad on third down and the and the offenses uncreative. This sounds like a carbon copy of conversation we had all of last year. So Orlovsky, quickly I thought the coaching changes supposed to change that what difference does it make? Well, it's still Kelham Moore's offense and I'll be honest with you greenie if it doesn't change scheme wise in explosiveness wise Mike, McCarthy's going to take over some form of the play calling I still think Kelly Moore is a brilliant football mind but he needs to take the shackles off this offense should look a lot more like a Baltimore Ravens offense or Kansas City chiefs offense than it does you know Scotland. Hand Jason Garrett ten years offense are we'll talk much more about this I can. See Rex's nodding his head. He agrees meanwhile, let's get you to the most anticipated game of the NFL's week on the bucks and the saints, and that means in case you hadn't heard hamper Tom Tom Brady and the new uniform going up against drew brees. So our first look at the Brady and the new offense wrecks, and early on the very first drive he looked very comfortable. Here's his first completion. Yeah. I mean that definitely looks like Tom Brady. Great seven rowdy throws right there. But. He still looks weird net uniform it take some getting used to. Here's another thing we're used to brady loves the QUARTERBACK SNEAK DOWN by the goal line gronk spike and they look like they're getting off to a good start. They did get off to a good start now later at just over forty three years old by the way Brady the oldest. NFL. Player ever to score a touchdown here comes Alvin Kamara the newly paid back for the Saints Times it seven ensuing bucks possession. This is where things start to go wrong rex. What happens here. Well, this is right now they're not on the same page clearly look this a chance. We all knew this could happen especially with Mike and Mike sending anything practice so. Chuck it up for just that they're just not on the same page here and and. And that's why they're. To get better, they would lead to another Kamara touchdown bucks down ten at the half early third quarter Saint scored second and fifteen to thirty two brady always picked off again. What happens are you kidding me? Why are you throwing? You can't be late to the wide side of the field on an out route Tom. Brady knows more than anybody. Throw that play out down. I'm not sure why they're running that play in the first place Saints Twenty, four, seven lead. Then he starts to get a little more comfortable. Here's OJ. Radius first touchdown pass with Tampa. He'd finished twenty three of thirty, six to thirty nine, three total touchdowns. Two picks sounds a lot like J. mistake early fourth quarter saints up twenty four, seventeen breeze jared cook behind the defense two years but I can tell you what they didn't nothing in the second half until that play and then Grease Emmanuel. Sanders forgotten on the team until this play but he makes it there. That's a touchdown thirty one, seventeen saints early in the forty two minutes and change to go saints need five yards to run out the clock where did he get this play rex? Right here this is a Buddy Ryan playwright here in other words, it's a great play it's fun and it's going to take the entire Tampa Bay team off breeze did not have a huge day through for just one hundred, sixty yards but good enough to win Brady the bucks fall in game one. After the way we practice for the last two weeks would have never thought I'd see us. Have that made penalties and turnovers this basic mental to really costs us when we got back into Gaming Coverage Cilicia Round one we've lost round one and we'll get ready for round two. I lost plenty of games in my career. So I know I don't like it but it happens. So got a better job. I Dan, our laps game I been waiting all morning long to ask you this question. What did you see from Brady and that bucks offense? Tom Brady like a guy who's playing in a new offense for the first time in twenty years and he looked like a guy who was playing football for the first time in eight months I understand where REX is coming from saying not on the same page. Let me say this you better get on the same page quickly right? Because you are now chasing down a division opponent that's got a one lead and so there's GonNa be mistakes there's going to be. Better in the second half than they did in the first-half, there's GonNa be a lot of really difficult conversations that have to get had this morning at one Tampa, Bay place one buccaneer place because if I'm Tom Brady I'm going to Bruce Arians, go and do not ask me to throw an out from the left hash all the way to the field on the shotgun ever again, don't ask me to do it. That's not my game, and so you know there was times when Tom Brady's at the line of scrimmage making checks he's gotta go talk to the running backs, tell them what the players and so. I'm not going to overreact this week one they have to get on the same page quickly, everyone's going to have to get up to speed, but I feel better even with that performance I feel better about the bucks as a football team in an offense, I do the things. Why is that? Well because the box offense is going to get up to speed. This is probably the best thing that could have happened to them because they're going to go watch the tape and go is if we don't kill ourselves if we don't make the mistakes if we have to you know Kinda condense our playbook and be more efficient we will. Is There Scotty Miller is a guy that no one knew was going to be a player. This year had a really good afternoon. So I expect this offense only to get better and better and better, and that defense is Great. I'm concerned about the saints offense lack of explosive plays drew's arm does not look Blake did this time last year with the ability to push the ball downfield? How are they going to manufacture that stuff? My concern alright REX's nodding along with a lot of what you're saying also not mentioned to this point and not shown in the highlight for obvious reasons was rob. Gronkowski. What do you see that there's this package deal of Brady and Gronk is Supposed to be a big addition in Tampa, didn't see a Lotta that yesterday I mean look great on paper but I told everybody that looked you're not getting the ROB Gronkowski of several years ago you're getting a rob Gronkowski Gwen out late that's even slower than he was and I I said three years ago that he he was running with a piano on his back and he is blessed he's he's trying he's competitive is held, but you Gotta Himself bring him down, cut his package back a little. Let them play on third down red zone two minutes situations, and that's it and he'll get through the season if not, he's not going to get through the seats. Are you happy with what you saw from their offense schematically? Do you believe as Dan does that this will get better quickly because it has to? Yeah absolutely. Even saw during the game the it got much better as the game game went on Ya. I'm not worried about the Tampa Bay buccaneers Dan makes an interesting point about the saints. With drew brees itself because their offense was not existent in the second half. Okay. We are just getting started here on a very busy, Monday going through all of the Games from yesterday Ryan Clark will join us as well. Still on the menu today, it worked on Sunday but of the Patriots making a big mistake with how they're using Cam Newton, we'll answer that question and then Carson wentz humbled. Eagles blowing huge lead. Is it possible? Philly is in big trouble just one week into the season. You've got questions. We've got answers. On ESPN. Get up is brought to you by Pizza Hut order today at Pizza. Hut Dot Com. Oh what a day in sports it was yesterday the get up and go through some of it. What a comeback are hoping final dominic team became the first man in seventy one years to win the open after dropping the first two seats. two excuse me beat Alexander's forever bit set tiebreaker to win his first slams meanwhile second no hitter of the baseball season came from an unlikely source. Cubs. Right. Hander Alec. Mills. No. HIT The brewers striking out five walking three over a career. High One, hundred, fourteen pitches was only the fifteen big-league start for the twenty eight year old mills comes one twelve nothing meanwhile history and Colorado Alver Walsh homerun number six, sixty. Always be magic number because it ties really maze. Now, fifth place on the all-time list angels one, five, three up next is a Rod, who is six, hundred, ninety, six, and his career, and how about the comeback for the nuggets overcoming nineteen point deficit beat the clippers there'll be a game seven in that Western Conference Series Nicola Yoga's lead all scores with thirty four and fourteen boards winner of game seven we'll take on the Lakers on Friday night and we will have the game seven, four you on espn tomorrow. Night the night will start with NBA countdown six eastern followed by Eastern Conference finals game on heating and Celtics. Then the nuggets and clippers game seven at nine it's on ESPN and the ESPN APP one night that should be meanwhile what is the view yesterday at home gained Fox broker Cam Newton Pats, Dolphins Early Rex you hated coaching against this guy because he's so top to stop. Yeah and this is why in the red zone right Vera Lebanon eleven football no answer to stop this guy in there it was it. Was So. Happy to see Cam Newton he looked good and other designed run here he'll take himself into the end zone. This'll be reviewed, but it would stand can sixty career rushing touchdowns. Now, that was an eight play seventy, five yard drive six minutes to go in the fourth patriots going for it on fourth down deep in Dolphin territory cam takes it himself he would throw fifteen of nineteen for a buck fifty five, he would run fifteen times seventy five yards in two touchdowns, Cam wins debut. This has been a a Sh- strenuous long process for me. And yet through it all. Has just been gratifying and I just had such a sense of gratitude you know to the New England patriots into this team. Just to give all that I could possibly give and in hell or high water finish today at this particular time with us, you know having going home with the wind. Was Rex loan lucky hat Cam showed the future of the Patriots offense setting the single game quarterback record for rushing attempts. He also called Twelve Zone reeds for Cam. They hadn't run zone read since Jacoby perset started the final game of Tom. Brady's deflate gate suspension that was week four of the twenty sixteen season. So Dan Orlovsky, we have been waiting all this time to see what this offense would look like. Now, we saw what was your first impression Not Sustained. Listen it was awesome. It was great Josh mcdaniels was Super Smart with the way they spread the field and utilize the run game and I've talked all off season about lowering their the numbers to get the same. That was great. Fifteen runs is not sustainable for this offense fourteen designed runs all which were hits is not sustainable for Cam Newton. So this was a yes a nice start in a nice day. And they get a win. There's no doubt about it, but there's a lack of explosiveness in their offense and what's the one thing that we have all said about Cam Newton's career the number one thing we have all said is those hits ended up you those hits added up and they will add up over the course of a season as well, and so while it's a great start greening I just this. There's already rumors in hearing rumors of you know there's a hamstring with Cam after week one and so I just don't see it lasting long term. So rex they need to evolve it is that what you envision here that you start with this and then you start evolving into a more traditional offense as the season goes on I'm not sure because look they have no weapons we set at the whole time. I. Mean they literally who's he going to throw to now elements for beat up or whatever like he? Always he's a player but the rest of them I don't care who it is that they have nothing on the outside their average at running back. So to me IT'S Cam Newton unfortunately he is fifteen carries. That's the only way they beat the dolphins. With. This way Josh mcdaniels did a great job. They don't have anybody but but you know look and he was he was fact of you know he threw short completions and and. Easy throws you guys are coming back to him, but he's not pushing the ball down the field. He probably can't do it anymore and he has no one to throw it to. So Dan do you see an evolution in this with with with Cam and sort of traditional passing role that I know you've talked a lot about it by going through the progressions and everything do you see that evolution in this season? Again, it's important to point out still week one Kim hasn't played football in a long time. I will say you made the point of the past. kind of a different cam when he came to the passing game that I had seen in the past lake, there's a stretch back into the second quarter in the start of the third quarter he does a really good job getting through progressions. This is a really good crossing route that you see nice job by him. Again, you're going to see a play fake and then getting through progressions one, two, three, four, there's a check down I don't know if seen that version of Cam Newton that's patient with the football deliberate with getting through his progressions finding the opening receiver, not forcing the football downfield and so rex. Brings up the point that they did not push it Downfield I. Don't expect them to because they can't they ran the ball. Well, they ran at a ton of offensive line can still play and Cam was really deliberate really deliberate getting the ball out of his hand. Why does that matter? Well, if you're going to be running the football team based football team, you have to be positive on your all your place. You can't take shots and get into second and ten. You're more than likely going to be in the third and long. So if cam does that in the past game and they run the football well. Caveat, you can't bank on ten carrying the football fifteen times every week he won't survive. We'll get to leave it there for the moment here we have so much more to come on this football Monday with us on get up as we continue. Did you watch Aaron Rodgers play football yesterday stick around to find out why are guys think the rest of the NFC is in big big trouble plus white cuyler Murray's performance yesterday probably left one other NFL quarterback shaking his head. You'll hear why in time for the first sneaky Hembo of the football season wrecks and both coming for you. Which quarterback receiver tandem has produced the most touchdowns over the last three seasons that's the question the answers next you you to get up on, ESPN? We are back on get up and I can't tell you how hard Rex Ryan has been working to try and come up with the answer to this question which quarterback receiver tandem has produced the most touchdowns over the last three seasons rex see I know him bolt? He's GonNa. Try to trick me knowing that I'm going to think that he's tricking me and say Hopkins and Watkins but I'm not. I'm going to see the obvious devante Adams in Aaron Rodgers. Your head. A. That's what I'm talking about. Thank you know Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams and we will call that a great moment and we'll call it foreshadowing. Did you watch the game yesterday in Minnesota Lodgers in the packers the world leaving them for dead maybe his franchise leaving him for dead but he's got other ideas were early twenty one seconds the second quarter packers up seven it's lodgers he's running. He's looking look at this throw you mean he's accurate on the booth. Are you kidding still rogers? Every body akers up fifteen seven. Now, twenty one seconds left in the half this this time mark has valves scampering along touch on the side of the packers are up twenty-two ten at the half. But wait there's one third quarter on third and five at the forty one it's Rogers again, racks his Valdez gambling again to the big game. Yes and no wonder they didn't draft anybody. that. Could help them. Are you? Here's project now, two plays later on second and goal he's rolling. He's looking it's Davante Adams again adams fourteen catches one, hundred, fifty, six, yards, two touchdowns packers up nineteen fourth quarter. The leads been cut to eleven they're looking to put it away and put it away. They do look good Roger, it vintage vintage, Aaron Rodgers we've seen it only about. Fifty. TIMES, I think Roger's three, hundred, sixty, four yards, four touchdowns packers win on the road in the division. Forty three, thirty four. Let's talk about hey era. Seem that laser focus come Beginning of the week. Obviously he's always. Sri But. This is a certain type of look in his eye he has and he definitely had gone on the week or two my rulers and leaders bring that energy and bring that focus on a diamond. Maybe maybe there's a low in today was an example you know he went up by a few scores they went outscored and we just kept answering back in answering back with the. Important important throws and catches in place. Brought lack of weapons certainly wasn't the problem yesterday. Rogers. With numbers we hadn't seen in nearly four years when targeting whiteouts and Davante Adams obviously was the big part of that fourteen of seventeen targets. One, hundred, fifty, six yards. They look great. So Fun to watch all of that and I believe we can bring Ryan Clark into the conversation for the first time this morning. Not yet. Okay. So Dan Orlovsky, still with us here, Dan what did you see Aaron Rodgers after the tumultuous off season we've been through it time and time again what did you see from? Aaron Rodgers yesterday. Problem for the NFL, not just the NFC. But for everybody in the NFL Greenie errands been I've heard people talk about Aaron Rodgers? A guy that has sometimes had bad body language that he gets super frustrated and I've been outspoken with him. Saying he wanted to be in an offense that looked fun and I have said leading up to the season. The only thing I'm watching with Aaron Rodgers is, does it look like he's having fun because when he's having fun and playing? Football that we love with Patrick Mahomes. Bridgeton era of it. Then he's he's at, he's most dangerous and through the first quarter yesterday I was watching Mandy doesn't look like he's having fun and then he makes throw Davante Adams, and then he makes that throat of gambling at the end of the first half and then he makes the another seem ball valve scantly ongoing. This guy looks like he's having fun like the ball is popping out of his hand. And he is super confident and when he gets to that point where he knows when they break the huddle, I'm going to do whatever I want with the football because I'm that good. That's when Aaron Rodgers is one of the best players in the NFL if that's what we're going to get this season, we're in first show in the NFC in the NFL is in for a problem with the packers. So Rex. This morning before we even started, you said to me this performance actually frustrated you further as you watched it. Why? Absolutely because this is still Aaron. Rodgers. And that's what blows me away about how they butchered the draft. They get nothing out of this draft and you guys wake up you were thirteen and three last year reason you still have Aaron Rodgers one of the greatest quarterbacks ever play any still playing at that level. So to me, that's what frustrates the hell out of me I don't care what it is a receiver alignment just Gimme somebody that's GonNa. Make that team a little bit better and They may be in the big Dan because, Dan, this is a big game i. mean we we talked a lot with all these big divisional matchups sqi about the significance of these week one games they just want into minutes I. Know there are no fans. So the home field I guess means less than it usually does, but it just went into Minnesota and knock them off at Rogers. Great doing it. That could wind up being a very important day. Yeah Green in the fact that they score on seven out of their possessions that's unheard of in the NFL to scored seventy percent of your possessions. Now again week one, we have to caveat this with context denise. Hunter. Their Premier Pass. rusher did not play two corners are brand new and young players and struggled. So while one hundred percent credit green bay for their performance the vikings were a little bit shorthanded. Becker vintage. That being said, this is week one and if your offense is GonNa look that good week one with players that many of us myself included going went, why didn't you get more help? They're only going to get better and I'm just telling you if Aaron Rodgers is confident in that play calling by the floor and confident with the people around him and he looks like he's having fun they are a problem for the NFC. I. Wonder if they could right now trae Jordan love for a wide receiver that would be an interesting. As they try and work their way through the rest of it. Meanwhile, he was brilliant yesterday but they were plenty of great performances around the. League. Scary to think Lamar Jackson could be better but yesterday he was nine of ten on throws ten yards down the field or more for one hundred, eighty yards. Last year he was under fifty percent on those. So he will even better the raiders second year running back Josh Jacobs. Spectacular. The only rookie with a thousand yards last year, he ran for ninety three yards and three touchdowns on the ground for Las Vegas used to saying that the Las Vegas Raiders meanwhile the man who never received an MVP vote that might change this year Russell Wilson was unbelievable. He had as many touchdowns as incompletions yesterday for each is eighty eight percent completion percentage his highest ever, and then stop the presses cuyler Murray is ridiculous. You threw for two hundred, thirty yards. He ran it for ninety one. He was fourteen out of sixteen targeting his new receiver, De'andre Hopkins Water Performance from him. So let's start with him Dan, Orlovsky if I were to say out loud right now. that. If. I were starting a team. With a quarterback after I said, Patrick Mahomes I might consider cuyler Murray next. Would you tell me that I was being ridiculous? You're not being ridiculous. I'm still going to take Lamar Jackson over him, but you're not being ridiculous I'd say this greedy, he's already Carla Marie is. In, the top five players players, not quarterbacks top five players in the NFL that defenses do not want to play against. He's absolute. He's added this patience to his game. He's got this incredible awareness. He's got the Andrea Hopkins now, and you saw like real quickly a comfort in growth between him and deandre hopkins like just this this trust factor he's amazing as a scramble I think he had like ninety three yards scrambling. Yesterday, and so I say this, there's quarterbacks that can beat you with their arms. They can beat you with their legs beat you with their mind. He could be two three ways he could beat you with his armies phenomenal throwing the football. He could beat you with his legs. He's one of the best athletes in the NFL and he's really developing his understanding of the game. So he's a top five player that teams. Do not want to play against Greenie if only there was a guy on this show that the day they're Murray declared for the NFL was told everybody he was going to be great if there was only a guy on this show this look I give credit words do Orlowski was dead right on this kid and I was wrong. I, was the one sitting right here saying he's too small to play quarterback in the. NFL Orlowski had this one right and I had a dead wrong brexit's come to you because we were. You were very skeptical about the hiring of cliff Kingsbury there and some of the things they did I know you've been impressed with what you saw from him yesterday no. Absolutely I think he's really grown as a coach and I question that you know he came out we were going to run the Air Raid College. Type offense. Well, he he he came out went to like the first. Here's then he then he settled down because what he understands now it's about the team success right now you have enough weapons it's not about just. Putting up yard splitting up wins as the important think you don't need to trick people with the talent that you have. This young kid at quarterback is a superstar. There's no question but I'm GonNa tell you what I was most impressed with with with the cliff Kingsbury it was that he ends up getting. Hopkinton of course that's easy. Oh Yeah. He also bet him the football in the mark of a great coach is being able to get the ball to your best weapons. I've seen it and over Gal a great receiver, he'll get three or four targets he had. Sixteen, and he had fourteen catching up. So to me that shows me that this student is sharp I can get on them. All he wants but I gotta tip my hat to him that that he he really impressed me that way meanwhile Dan Orlovsky. Shown Watson and the Texans played Thursday night. So they might have been watching TV yesterday. What would you imagine what's going through Sean Watson's mind watching De'andre Hopkins just take apart what we think might be the best defense in football yesterday. Go back in time if I go back in time and maybe not signed that extension in Houston with this general manager Bill O'Brien because. The guy that I'm watching on television is that the guy that we deemed not good enough to pay anymore or that wasn't worthy enough to pay or I'd made the decision that we were better off without him like that's the guy that I'm watching fourteen catches and all of a sudden the cars beating the defending NFC REP in the Super Bowl also. Shawn Watson it's got to be sitting there going. A man I wish I could go back and change the way I. Did some things I mean listen we watch them play on Thursday night against defense that isn't as good as the San, Francisco Defense. I mean Kansas City's defense has improved, but not as good I. believe the Andrea Hopkins is the best receiver in the National Football League and they just decided to get rid of him. You don't win games by giving getting rid of your best player greedy Bill O'Brien, the GM. is, killing Bill O'Brien the code. Is. Absolute atrocious, move absolute and look, and you see it immediately when the when the things were. So predictable become the problems. Immediately, the criticism feels very valid Texans could've used him and yesterday he beat San Francisco take a break but I'll remind you that the week is by no means over we got to tonight on Monday night football the header starts at seven eastern Ben is back with the steelers visiting the giants and that's followed by Derrick Henry, the titans visiting the broncos special edition of Monday night countdown picks up the coverage five o'clock eastern on ESPN ESPN deported and the ESPN APP Coming up we all know Daniel Hausky is a huge fan of Carson Wentz. But Dan has some current turns this morning after an opening day disaster, we'll talk about that next get up on he has. Run the hurry up through some notable quarterback performances of yesterday Ryan Clark joins us this morning. Ghandour. Mitchell threw three touchdowns in surprising Jacksonville win is that gold for fool's gold? Gold type of goal that you're looking for that type of gold kids wins all season but this is who he is. He's GonNa Compete Very Ryan Fitzpatrick like and this will be insult games. That doesn't mean that they'll be good. This is a great start Gordon and. Against a VAT secondary in Indianapolis Colts but don't expect to win each and every. Buffalo Josh Allen his first career three, hundred yard passing game rex gold or fool's goal. This is absolute. Gold right here. Probably Platinum gold up telling you this dude right here. New England has Cam Newton guess what the bills have a young Cam Newton right here. This kid right here one of the best quarterbacks in the League, the last couple years, and he gets better and better and better. Every year does play a little bit like Cam boy. Dan Mitch trubisky three fourth quarter touchdown passes in a come from behind win gold or fool's gold. Agreeing this is this is like fools go. This is like. Painted goals when you're in high school and your girlfriend goes declares to get fake gold earrings or something because he was so bad. He was so bad mechanically in the first three quarters and then all of a sudden fourth gets hot and a beautiful touchdown pass to Anthony Miller down the sideline. He had a great thrill to play before. So a little bit of fake gold here. This really good win he proves to his team could. Bring them back but he's got to play better more consistently for them to say, yes, this gold meanwhile eagles in Washington and early on it's Carson Wentz and it's a seventeen nothing Philadelphia lead racks. You figure all this is going to be a comfortable cruise to a win, and then this happens rex. What is it's GonNa to be a route. But what are you do? You can't be throwing that ball up in quarters coverage went up there. Yeah LE- terrible throw arable throw Fabian Moro comes for the pick and it turns the whole game around Washington scores at seventeen seven early third. This is not a replay. This is a different place. It's not a replay that it sure looks the same to me and what are you doing? You got to protect the Football Carson Wentz Zaken pick of the day at very similar to the previous play. Now at seventeen fourteen early for the eagles first and ten at their own twenty five and all the sudden the Washington defensive line, and that is they're five first round picks up there they start taking over the football game. Yet Green eight sacks. But this was the story that date constant pressure on the quarterback. And my goodness right now you never let them breathe. That's Ryan Kerrigan who got him there this is going to be chase young who gets in here and then went to will fumble wins pressured on fifteen drawbacks. He had negative fifty, two net yards gain. He was one of seven on passes and sack eight. When under pressure Washington Scores Twenty seven straight and beats the eagles nv most surprising result of week one by thought and Dan. Orlovsky who loves Carson Wentz tweeted yesterday Carson Wentz. It's hurting his team point blank is hurting the team. Only reason Washington is in the game is went again. This is a big moment because Dan Orlovsky is the biggest supporter of Carson Wentz. So I appreciate the honesty Dan with what your eyes were seeing, what disturbed you so much about what you saw from Carson yesterday. Now, he's the reason they lost a football team football game. I can put it on one person's shoulders I played for Gary Kubiak, and when we would go and have to play against the Indianapolis Colts when Dwight free in Robert Mathis Kubiak would start our week by saying to the quarterbacks do not let defensive line when the football game he would say are week and that would be the last thing that we would hear don't let the defensive line ruined the football game for the Upset and doughnut. The only way only way Washington comes back into that game is you turn the football over you know the defensive line become dominant and I understand there was injuries I'm aware of that but you're good enough player you're experienced enough you're matured of you went through last year to understand there's a difference between being a player or talent and being quarterback. You did not quarterback your team well enough you let that defensive line get going and then they got going and going and. Momentum took over, and so it's so disappointing watching Carson Wentz experience last year, and watching him not feel the need to try and win the football game every single play and see the result of carrying that team to the playoffs. It's so disappointing to watch him come out and do that yesterday because he tried to win the game every single snap in intern he loses the game I don't. WanNa hear about who wasn't there I? You're a good enough player you're paid that amount of money. When? Aren't able to play your good enough to make sure that you're not be to the football team that still with those guys out isn't as talented as yours and so I kept my notes at halftime I wrote. The quarterbacks holding the ball too much. They cannot survive this way if Carson Wentz does not fix this two day to day than they've got big time problems moving moving ahead in these coming weeks I'll write RC has been having technical problems. So we're thrilled to have you with us. Ryan Clark your thoughts on what we saw from philly yesterday. Listen Carson Wentz started the game fire Dallas was involved very early, not Zach Ertz and then he went into Carson Wentz Superman Moat but that's what we applauded him for last year. When you lose your top running back when you have wide receivers that are down Carson wits carried this team to the playoffs we did see that type of Carson Wentz yesterday because we didn't see it here. He didn't play the game with his mind you look at the pig by Moreland you look at. The. Pick by Fabien. Moreau. These were very easy throws for Carson Wentz and which he telegraphed, and after that he started to press, allow this line to get him. He didn't protect the ball. He didn't find ways to help his team make plays and vessel Carson Wentz is paid for it. I'm not GonNa say do pensively that the Washington football team isn't good because they have good players obviously, very talented upfront but there is no way that this team is supposed to stymie the Philadelphia. Eagles. The way they did down the stretch once the eagles went up seventeen zero I'm believe Carson Wentz will get it fixed because I believe that he is talented but he has to look at this game and say, even though I have new weapons, I do not have to force the ball I don't have to win the. MVP. This week and it felt like Carson wentz trying to do that the entire second half once seafood at first pick the Fabien Moreau after two minutes and. I, that's right again and this all starts with a seventeen nothing wheat. So it is confounding meanwhile I think a lot of people were probably here Dan say don't let the defensive line ruined the game rex what does that mean? How did they let that the strength of Washington they have right first round on that on that defensive line how did he let them ruin the game? Well, because all the impact I mean you have eight sacks in that game and I go back to my. View big lesson I learned from. We've you a hundred years ago was it starts with protection. First, you gotTA protect your quarterback in to me I don't care about all the fancy routes and all that stuff protect the quarterback. Cam. Walk you'd block with six though is that on Wednesday or is that on the ability designed the coaching staff? Well, I think that's I. It's part on Winston. It's part on the coaching staff certainly but to me this game right here what wins doesn't understand is Have, to protect the football team. And that's what he didn't do protect the football in sometimes the right move is the throw the ball away here we figure hold division is going to be Philly and Dallas and they both start out. 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"Friday in the attic. Nothing better than add wilpon today. Let's start with the NFL. Draft and the central issue as people talk about the draft is whereas to are. GonNa go on the get up. Show Mike Tannin bound the former general manager Rex Ryan a former head coach. Both said they'd be reluctant to draft him. Real high. I think Ryan called to and this is a quote the biggest gamble in history. What does it feel like a risk or a lock to take him at number five? Tony? It's still a risk but if you take a number five the team drafting near if it stays there. The Miami Dolphins have three first round draft picks. So it's it's less a gamble because you got to other pigs than goodness knows you need to strike on. Probably both of those and keep people from going crazy if tool winds up on injured list week after week after week but I agreed largely with Rex Ryan and I don't know that I agree with the specific part about the biggest gambling history. I don't care about that but if you've got multiple picks Tony it cushions the fall if you blow it onto if you have one pig high and you blow it onto and you can't recover. That's a whole different argument in a pressure on that. Gm and that staff is enormous. I'm with REX. Ryan three picks taken see. I understand why a coach and general manager would feel this way and they would say we can't get our doctors to examine him. We need to trust some other doctor and we're uncomfortable and that's because they're management but players that go on television players. Say Take Him. They say his accuracy is astonishing and because players have recovered from injuries themselves. They're more inclined to believe that another player. Can we all know doctors? We all quote doctors. I've got a friend check. Max Who's a doctor? He says the ankle surgeries will actually make his ankle stronger. He thinks you come back from a broken hip. He said to take him Mike. In my opinion I think it is risky. But I think he's great. Nate's it worth the risk so I would take him. What about you? Tony players have to be accountable. Players say whatever they want like no. You're not going to get fired. If two is on the injured list like you know three out of four weeks over a period of years so I I agree so thoroughly with Rex Ryan on this if you have multiple swings added tone in that first round to what I find most interesting here is a two is really selling himself to is releasing videos to his doing every interview his family available. He's calling people up. He's in sales mode right now and I sort of like that. I do what happens? The higher you go Tony The higher you go more guaranteed money. I think that's still the case in the NFL. Let's go to Justin Turner of the dodgers for second. He's got this incredible suggestion Tony Fascinating which he made on spectrum sports net and L. A. Wednesday the major league baseball should go to NHL style shootout using homerun Derby after ten innings. And just for this season Tony because he doesn't want to get bogged down and play. You can be playing seventeen inning games. If you've got some double headers and you got a crazy schedule. So again homerun. Derby would replace Long Extra Innings No Twelfth Thirteenth Fourteenth inning. You like this idea. I do like it. I mean with the caveat that it is just for this year. I think it's a good idea because they're going to be playing when they get back. Virtually every day. You don't want to kill your relief staff. You don't want games like that. I think relief pitchers would sort of like this. Because they'd never get the loss you know if it goes to Homerun Derby. I know it's a gimmick. I know it's stupid but this year I actually think did it could work out. I think Turner suggests three guys batting. I'd cut that down. I wouldn't have more than two but I think that'd be a fun way to decide games as long as it's just this year and no playoffs whatsoever. I'm going to surprise you. I love this and you know. I don't even like Super Derby all that much because it's so repetitive. It's like the dunk contest after a while. But when you use it in this particular way Tony I I love shoot-outs at NHL Games. When I am their regular season games I tend to sort of root for it. If it's close we get to shoot out. I like it so I think it'd be cool by the way I would not use the bull pin guy coming out there with a bag of balls. I would not use. I use the jugs machine. Everything is called jugs right. I'd have the arm out there. The mechanical arm. I'd have the net in front of it like a batting practice and I would use that so every pitch comes in the same. Nobody gets an advance. That's the only tweet but I love this idea. See that's very interesting to me because I think your bullpen guy could become the most important person on your entire staff. If he could groove pitches I also understand by the way why Justin Turner likes this. Because the dodgers they got Mancini and bellinger and bedside they can yeah they can knock it out so if they had a ten man sprint to the finish this way. Great I also like the shootout which is also a gimmick so I do like this. Let us move now. Let me put my glasses on because I call this a will bond special apparently the GM of your Chicago Bears Ryan Pace. We have been at odds with here in the air though. Not as much is the coach but Ryan Pace has announced. There's an open competition at quarterback with the bears the incumbent Mitch Trubisky and now they recently signed nick. Foles wilpon. Do you believe that Mitch Trubisky will be able to keep his job. No because the forces are aligned against him. I mean we're already know. And by the way you should give me some credit on two years ago even in a twelve and four season saying this coach did not want to coach this quarterback because he doesn't want to coast trubisky heels to. He's still wants to coach. Patrick mahomes because he had him for a year in Kansas City before he left to go to Chicago. And now you got the GM the guy who traded heaven and earth. He traded every bear asset. Except for you know Walter Payton and gale Sayers to get trubisky and now he's given up on them so you know the GM Tony GM is a guy who's got hold out for his draft pick right. That's what you would expect. You'd expect for him to get into a fight with coach before he cuts that guy or trade that guy now they both want him out to. Bisky got no shot which is sad to me. I'm GONNA I'm going to refer back to our first story with Mike Tannenbaum and with rex. Ryan the guys whose heads are on the block or GM's and coaches with things like this and they said Chew Bisky was definitely their starter. I don't know a couple of months ago or something like that. They have backed way off that. I think I have a slightly different opinion than you. Because when she bisky had real good season in two thousand eighteen in the bears were were twelve and four he had a rating a very high rating of ninety. Five point four. He had twenty four touchdowns and only twelve picks. He's slid last year. There's no question about that but unlike you I crazy about foles as you are falls as great in Philadelphia what his record is a starter in Philadelphia. It's it's absolutely tremendous. It's like twenty five and thirteen and has got a super bowl win. Something like that right but outside of Philadelphia Mike. He's flopped so I'm not sure that he beats out to Bisky. Unless you're telling me the fix is in and that's what management wants. That's what I'm telling you. I look I liked you on the last person apparently Chicago who lives trubisky. I want too busy to have a fair shot because he was being coached somebody who was interested in coaching him and putting him in a system that was going to take advantage of the things he has. Then he'd have a fair shot he doesn't have a fair shot. Tony it's like Chicago election. This is stacked against trubisky now because of coach coach and the GM has bailed. Okay I mean you're GonNa anger me with this topic because I was going to be day after day after day. Let's go to golf. Something that can soothe both of us. 'cause Golf Week magazine says that the powers that be in the industry are close to unveiling a new schedule that would condense the big events including the masters winding up being played in November. Tony Tell me how you feel about autumn in August. I love the whole idea of it. We have seen it in springtime all the time and how beautiful it is with the Zales. Now you'll see the leaves having turn it'll probably be as it is in the spring the most beautiful place on earth but if. I were the masters I need to take into consideration on a weekend. I'm going to in November. I'm going to bump up against college football and the behemoth of the NFL football on Sunday. So if I am the masters and this is a CBS production. What I'm going to try and do is get the lead to allow me on Sunday. Tab a real early game the way. They allow that to happen for the London Games. Maybe an eleven o'clock eastern start so I can get to the masters by fifteen or two thirty and see what I've got. If my leaderboard is bad maybe the. Nfl trances me. But if I get lucky and Tiger and Phil and Rory on the leader board and people like you and I and we watch this thing we'll stay with it you got to also remember the light fades in November. They I mean they can't go to seven. I don't think no Tony First of all. Don't you play golf on days? Other than Sunday a wait. Let me answer for you. Yes you do. So the master doesn't need to be delayed Thursday through Sunday. They could play it Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday. They could play Thursday Friday and they could go Saturday and share somehow with college football which will gladly move to prime time. You're right about see you gotta end it in like five thirty or six o'clock you can't go to eight which is nearly two so tony. You don't have to play this on the weekend. I think it would be great. And by the way you would keep the Ryder Cup you could have like the US Open or pebble. Warm weather places places in Arizona. I might be able to help be a conduit too so you can move. The golf schedule in ways naturally is not contrived that you cannot necessarily move other sports like baseball when you try to put in sort of a neutral site which to me is awful. That is the most interesting thing you've said in fourth story all week. I have not heard about that. I had not thought that you don't have to end on a Sunday. 'cause I was worried about Kim against the NFL but that yeah they can schedule it whenever they want. That'd be great good for you data from you. I'm GonNa Thank you. Today's horoscope brought to you by GEICO. Today begins journey toward a new aries making smarter healthier decisions for yourself starting with going to GEICO DOT COM and discovering. You could save hundreds of dollars a year on car insurance with GEICO. You will also attend your first fitness Boot Camp. Your journey towards new. You will stumble after your eleventh. Burpee ends with you hyperventilating. In the parking lot. Tomorrow's a new day aries GEICO. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more. Let's do the happiest kids. Let me put on my glasses to read happy. Twenty Eighth Birthday Damian Williams. Patrick mahomes overshadows everybody on the field for the Kansas City chiefs but Damian Williams scored the last two touchdowns against the forty niners in the most recent super bowl. The first one gave the chiefs the lead with two forty four to play the second one sealed the deal with one twelve play Williamson. Seventeen carries one hundred. Four yards four receptions for twenty nine yards in that super bowl along with touchdowns in five previous. Nfl Seasons in Miami. Kansas City Williams had never rushed more than fifty times. But this past season Williams who was undrafted out of Oklahoma in two thousand fourteen. He hit it big. He had one hundred eleven carries in eleven regular season games and forty six carries in three postseason games. He had six touchdowns running and passing in the postseason. Tony just when it seems like the chiefs have already had all the weapons that he needed on offense they get a guy to come out of the shadows which is just just too much to stop and give homes another option and you wonder how effective he is now supposedly those those first couple of seasons because mahomes did vote to devote so much attention as defense to him. That other guys can just go off and do what they want. Happy Anniversary Mario lemieux on this date thirty two years ago. Lemieux won the NHL scoring title. That shouldn't be big news because Lemieux is a hall of fame player but by winning the scoring title luth thwarted Wayne Gretzky's bid for an eighth straight scoring title. Well listen to this. In the twenty one seasons between nineteen eighty one and two thousand one the only players to win the scoring title Gretzky Ten Times Lemieux six times and Yom your Yager five times. That's like in the AFC when the only quarterbacks to go to the Super Bowl for what like ten or twelve straight years were brady manning and Rothlisberger. Nobody is Gretzky but Mario lemieux. He's on the next rung isn't Yes Tony. He he. He is on the next wrong. And I think it's a wrong also that he's by himself. I'm sure people will get mad at me for saying I'm just thinking of this now. Maybe I should say in any way that maybe lemieux Gretzky as Lebron is to Jordan. Maybe there's less distance between Lebron and Jordan but to me Gretzky and Jordan. Each in his own sport by himself. Okay happy trails to jaanus onto to Colombo practicing his shooting on a conference. Call the Milwaukee Bucks or asked if they're players have access to any basketball hoops to practice their shots onto tacoma. When Chris Middleton said they don't have a hoop at their homes or any particular access to a hoop anywhere Middleton said. He thought he might go to a neighbor's house and shoot outside. But he's mostly working out at home and just dribbling the basketball. This is so great. I can imagine people walking around the streets in Milwaukee hoping that onto component middleton are shooting at some who over garage playing horse in a cul de sac. This is tremendous of course because of social distancing you have to watch from far away yet tony. I hope that Janas just leaving out of detail. And he's telling a little FIB and somebody in a local grade. School is opening the gym. Letting Janas go in. If you want to buy himself or someone who can maintain social distancing and rebounding kick the ball back out to him from about fifteen feet because this is not like steph curry who could be rip Van Winkle and go to sleep for twenty years and wake up at shoot it perfectly. Jaanus is just getting that shot so I hope I hope Tony. He's just any still stroking it somewhere. Geico gets you access to licensed agents twenty four seven which means that. Geico is always there for you. 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Hour 1: Stan Van Gundy

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Hour 1: Stan Van Gundy

"The Dan Le Batard Woodstock Gotcha podcast is brought to you by the capital one's ever card or four percent cashback on dining and entertainment do percent grocery stores of one percent on all of the purchases now when you go out you can't Jim what's in your wallet terms apply. This is the Dan lebatardshow with his two cats podcasts. Alex Rodriguez has gone to his twitter account. He is an find fine suit. He is carrying a fine fine bag aggie a left hand in his pocket. I'm sure a perfectly manicured left hand in the pocket of his pants. He Looks Regal as health standing in the streets of New York City with very expensive sunglasses and this is what he writes on twitter. It's not enough just to want it. Go and get it. Don't wait on an opportunity create one. Don't hope today's your lucky day make it. Your lucky day stepped the put. Step up to the plate lean in and go Ford tag make it happen. I just got goosebumps. I love that guy did you. That is not helpful where the steroids era in that don't wait for them to come to you. Go get him. That's right. Don't wait for this royds to show up at your door go. Oh get them. I'm just here for all things Alex Rodriguez leading us into perspective and wisdom and Knowledge Knowledge in sports so that we can better understand how to live our lives through sports. I'm here for all of that. Can you argue things have worked out for him perfectly. We should be taking his advice. He owns the world right now. Alex Rodriguez does he not so who better to give advice than him. I feel like he's turned the corner. At first he was just like guys guys everyone like me but now he feels that he's he feels the love so now he's just like now. I can tell you how to really live. It's very Tony Robbins right. He there was some real self help there. I don't know if you guys are watching this. Show on on showtime. It is an unusual show. I think it's called how to become God in central Florida but the lead cult leader of scamming speaks like this the lead cult leader oh what's his name. Ob We'll be something. I don't know it's a funny guy with the funny mustache he speaks into a microphone any cons people out of their money with it's not enough just to want it. Go and get it. Don't wait on an opportunity create. One don't hope today is your lucky day. Make It your lucky day. Step up to the plate lean in and go for it. Hashtag bag make it happen billy. Are you inspired. You make your own luck. I mean what's wrong with this. If you just sitting around nothing's going to happen but he's he's not sitting around. He's standing in a street in a suit in New York making nothing happened other than a self well. He's making a street. Stop so take that picture sure. I mean a lot of traffic. It's he seems to do whatever he wants. In the streets of New York college a couple of weeks ago he was playing catch with Gronk and they were just throwing footballs over traffic over pedestrians not a care in the world. Just you know hanging out with the whatever we want. It's funny you should say that because some of these athletes have such a wonderful full life of freedom in that regard Kobe Bryant wanted to cut the drive short in traffic to practice so he either did or was is thinking about buying a helicopter but everyone knows that Kobe Bryant all over Los Angeles parked his Lamborghini wherever the hell he wanted to like he would just park and he would go and do whatever Kobe had to do and he wouldn't get towed anywhere in Los Angeles Park it but who wouldn't do that if they could do that. What you do it I think we all would i. I think all of us would do that. I think you're doing it doing some of that. Now I do that in certain segments of Miami Miami. I thought I had that pulling Miami too. I got a ticket at the thing is in. La There's a lot of lamborghinis flying around. So how do you know that that one. Kobe's they're flying. How do you know that Kobe's right instead of like Brad Pitt Sparks Lamborghini. I don't know you know his license. Plate says Mamba or something like that right. My guess is is that there's a reason yes you're right. There probably are Lamborghinis all over all over Los Angeles but my guess is. There's probably hey it could be a note on the windshield. Hey this is Mambas. Don't move it Chris. Get a laboratory license plate. There you see what happened here with Bryce Harper Bryce Harper ahead to watch. He had to watch in Washington as his former team he's a philly now he signed for thirteen years with the phillies and Washington in one one of those things that sports sometimes make for great storylines. Washington got to end Bryce Harper's playoff run while clinching its way into the playoffs in a game against Bryce Harper and the fans. Let him have it even though this wasn't even his first trip back to Washington to got so he he says he turned around and responded to them in the eighth inning and this is what he says they were fine all game talking about myself and things like that. I get it everywhere I go. It's nothing new but the last inning it's just not right. It's just not right. That's part of sports. I guess that's what it is. Nowadays like I said the whole time I've got sixty thousand fans up in Philly that appreciate me as a player and appreciate take me as an individual in my family as well. I owe a lot to those people up there in Philly because they show up for me every single night and they are there to cheer us on and boys and keep us going as a team. It is individuals as well and I'm looking forward to the next twelve years can't wait. This doesn't quite feel like the Bart Scott quote of can't wait the next the next twelve years can't wait. I'm guessing Philadelphia. Already can't wait for the next twelve years philly baseball or that contract and I don't understand why athletes don't understand you play for a certain city for many many years years and you never win that series title and then you decide to leave that city and who made you a very good offer by the way that he made him a good offer but it wasn't enough because he wanted to be the highest paid player in baseball. What did he expect. He's on the phillies. They didn't make the playoffs. The nationals did without Bryce Harper. What did he expect. What did he think the fans were going to do and I'm not so certain that he had sixty thousand fans of Philadelphia first off he should have more secondly. There is outraged at him as the nationals. Those are he's there. He's in Philadelphia. They expected big things he had a terrible year and the team that made the playoffs. It wasn't terrible. It wasn't a Bryce Harper year. It was the second second best year he's ever had well. It's about his career unit career excellent pivots to God's there it is you don't know what you haven't been actually paying attention to what Bryce Harper Harper was doing in Philadelphia. You stop paying attention about three months in when he was struggling at the beginning of the season and then you just pivoted to I mean he just gave you second best statistical year. Maybe of like can't be maybe if it may right. I mean if if we're GONNA know P. S. I think it's his fourth or fifth best season that he's had. He's the only played like seven you have said since his first year that he's bad at baseball. You've said that that's a that's a quote from what he is above average. It's not an average baseball player eight ninety seven career Ropy S. He's not an average baseball player. What's a good OPI- though is at eight ninety seven eight nine. Has It changed now. Anything in the eight hundred's was good once upon a time. I don't know if now with everyone hitting home runs that's probably gone up because the slugging has gone up all over ver- sports but when you ask instead of turning this into yet another rip job of Bryce Harper's you play the head and Stu Gods Catalogue Doc what was said here that made Bryce Harper without specifics say they were final game talking came about myself and things like that I mean I get everywhere go. It's nothing new but the last inning it's just not right. It's just not right now. He's wise not to go into specifics there for a couple of reasons one of them is you don't want to give fans the ammunition of knowing the stuff that bothers you. That's one but second. It makes me wonder since he's been there all season. It makes me wonder if he wasn't frustrated because he had to sit in the shame of watching Washington clinch without him against his team. How much worse could the language have been in in the ninth inning that it was the previous eight innings guessing the frustration is what was the worst in the ninth inning because he just he was about to watch his old team celebrate on the field that he used the occupy. How much worse could the words have possibly been in the ninth inning than they've been all season everywhere. He goes seriously family. Stuff is it it could be family stuff affleck. What could they possibly have been saying when he won't give us specifics and he shouldn't right but when he won't give us specifics it makes me wonder like what were they actually saying saying that the ninth inning was some sort of breaking point for a guy who's used to being heckled everywhere he goes. I mean it could have been harsher language. That's certainly a possibility although he's not telling us that that but he is specifically saying that last inning when they were really celebrating and they were celebrating both them getting to the playoffs in his demise. They were putting his face in a poop on the carpet in the ninth ninth inning like like I look at that. We didn't need you to sign for three hundred something million dollars somewhere else and we're doing better than your team that won that one stings man. I wonder how Christian Yelich is experiencing that the brewers that the brewers are sitting here playing better without him than they did with them. and we've got sound that we're going to get to a Brett farve telling you that ally manning was not enjoying what happened with Daniel Jones on Sunday but before we get to that let's just play some sound of Brett farve doing rapper's delight on our show once upon a time. They'll stop stop to the bang. 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Has it all download the APP joined the vivid seats rewards loyalty program today tune into the down in distance podcast hosted by Ivan Mozelle commemorating the One hundred fiftieth anniversary of college football download subscribe and review down and distance of elbow. Wherever were you enjoy your podcast. I can't believe that I'm saying this out loud. Tom Brady looks like he's getting younger. Physically physically looks he's. He is aging in a way that is making him look physically healthier than most people who started deteriorating in their forties. I see I see him as anyone else in on this I see him giving press conferences and I'm like his skin is radiating at the perfect age to look like because you can look too young yeah and then you can look too old so you want to have the exact perfect thirty thirty now. I think a little older yeah maybe going to young now like suspiciously young like how can you look that young. You know what I mean. You want a little grey in your hair little salt and pepper. I think Clooney and we all know that look like loony but I think Clooney look better at the age of let's say forty forty forty five. They needed at twenty five third absolutely absolutely no doubt what was this show is on facts of life. Is that what it was. It was not it was e. R. I believe now. He was on facts acts of life. He was like a delivery guy or something. Clooney was on facts of life the Cup of Coffee you had a compost. Put It on the poll. Did you know that George Clooney had a cup the coffee with facts of life but this is the perfect example because you remember how good George Clooney looked on your you didn't even remember he was on facts of Life C. Two young okay okay not a perfect example but you go ahead and convincing yourself of whatever it is you need to convince yourself up Baker Mayfield and Rex Ryan or going back and forth Sir Rex Ryan says the following about Baker Mayfield. He is still really opinionated and so here's what Rex Ryan says about Baker Mayfield. I'd love to be an offensive coordinator here. I have old back them. Jarvis Landry Nick Chubb Baker Mayfield Yeah overrated as L. I bought the Dang Height. Hi here's a guy right now. That is a one guy and then he's going to improvise. He's got to realize you were one of the slowest guys on that field when you take gough with it the other thing too ball's not coming out in rhythm you staring down guys and you're not that accurate down the field. Baker Mayfield according to pro football focus okay. This is leaving a clean pocket more than any other. NFL quarterback more than any quarterback in the league his completion percentage is thirtieth among starting quarterbacks back. He's twenty four with three touchdowns and he's thrown two more interceptions than touchdowns. That's the second highest total in the league five interception past four games dating back to last season his passer rating is the fourth lowest in the league he yeah he hasn't been exactly what what it is that you thought he might be and now he's defensive when Rex Ryan and saying he's overrated as hell whatever the wise words of Freddie kitchens you don't wear orange and Brown on you. Don't matter in Rex Ryan doesn't have any colors right now for a reason so it's okay and it sounds like that didn't bother them sound to you. I'm asking you did it sound to you like it didn't bother him when it would have been fine if he had stopped at he's unemployed. He doesn't work in our league right now because because you don't say that unless you're bothered by they're in trouble if they're letting this get to them at one into like this could get worse for that. This is this is the joy right you want them to either. Be Great or you want them to sink into the mark and you know Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry physically fight over a three yard. Catch here is Odell Beckham saying you shouldn't listen to Rex Ryan today when we go out there no offense the wrecks because I love him but we don't really care what you said. You know we go out there and play football. There's a livelihood food. Risking your life every time you go out. There overrated none of that really ever. GonNa matter when you get on the field. It's just about being who you are in. What's capable of doing one in doing that. All the words go out the window. I it's just a bunch of words what you wanted to and you care. I mean you do care. No I think he's less defensive than Baker Mayfield but then again no one's calling him over rated as out like Baker Mayfield the one getting it. Here's Freddie Kitchens also going after rex trying because Freddie Kitchens is only in that jobs to God's because Baker Mayfield wanted him in that job. I appreciate his opinion and all that but he's not in our building. He has no idea what we're doing so I'd answer that would that. That's Freddie Kitchens Knock Eric. It's hard to say you don't care when everyone on your team has and and you don't care about but they're not the ones being called overrated. Dad is right. What was most affected by. This insensitive doing is as Baker Mayfield. This is what I want to know billy. Can you help me because I heard Brent Musburger one of the Classic Broadcasting Invoices in sports history. I heard an ad that he did that was laugh out loud funny. I don't know if it was intended to be laugh out. Loud funny but hearing Brent Musburger talk walk in an ad about this particular product made me laugh. We are trying to get the sound cleared now. Keep in mind at one point. Brent musburger saying you are looking live at whatever network television game he was doing was these sound of sports like it was the the Voice of Sports and now he's advertising something for manscaping that is really specific. It's really detailed so he's he has cashed it. Dan Yes musburger is basically doing you remember that you had you took money. Once upon a time in our local lean days from something called new bag which is if in time you didn't have time to shower you could spray some eucalyptus stuff down in your gross regions and then not shower. That was a product your schilling on our air nonstop for months. Dare I say years. I think we had a sack of the week during the football season. I think that's where they really increase. If they're spending yeah I did live. I did live endorsements for them and we did. We had a weekly feature called sack of the week of the week for new bag. That was the name of the product and it was a eucalyptus. Maybe became in other sense. I don't know I never checked the sense on that. I didn't want to be near any of the sense on that but evidently Brent Musburger Voice of sports one once upon a time time. The Voice of the preacher in the Cathedral has just cashed it all in for Vegas and manscaping. He's like bleep it. I'M GONNA you won't well let me Lear at women on television anymore. Okay never mind. I'm going out to Vegas where everything's allowed and I'm GONNA put my voice on Manscaping ad I have sent that sound to clearance and I want to thank you for having me be the one that says that to. 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He outed him as an upper deck goer of two games of forty five win teams with his dogs. It has to be here man. I'm guessing you can only bring the dog so the upper deck. That's probably the rule but we check in now with Stan Van Gundy for a couple of reasons one of which is to congratulate him on his new Gig at TNT and more importantly to congratulate him him on being able to laugh at the Absent Mike Ryan and his Cleveland browns because Baker Mayfield has the goods dude is what Mike Ryan. Dan said to Stan Van Gundy and Mike Ryan has been out with the family emergency all week of the browns losing on Sunday night and so here's Stan van Gundy joins us to the first question I have for you. It was indeed your dog dog or dogs at that game and if so why the hell were you at a tigers game okay it was my wife and I were out in Michigan visiting our two oldest kids who both have dogs and they wanted to go to bark complex so I was with not my own dogs but with my kids dogs and it was a great event now I will say when you go to those things. It's hard to watch the game. I mean you you end up just watching the dog you're within and all the other dogs but it was it was a lot of fun. I mean probably more fun than watching the Tigers Right now is they lying down a season where they're not. GonNa win any so you know but it was it was a funny thing and it was a great night. It was seventy five degrees so you couldn't have had a better night and I like it yeah. I'll have to do it sometime well with my own dogs. Now I know you you say that you're only up in the upper deck because that's where they keep the dogs. Did you send an email like hey. I'm Stan Van Gundy. I can go down what about what about me. Can I just go out on the field with my dog. Can I poop on face well. I actually thought letting the dog on the field would have been a good idea but but no my my name doesn't carry a lot of weight in Detroit the now they've ran me out of town so i. I don't know the trying to make that play. would've would've gone. I'm very far anyway staying. How do you think the dogs received that night because I've gone to bark at the park a couple of times and I've found that my dog doesn't seem to enjoy it as much as like all the humans humans around enjoy the idea for the park yeah that might be true but my my sons and daughters dog seemed to really like it now the part they really liked was you know coming into the stadium and you know being able to socialize with all the other dogs they love that and you know being there and being able to have fun with the other dogs. I didn't really notice them paying attention to the game a whole lot though I didn't notice most of the fans around paying attention to the game and the only sections were close to full. Oh we're the dog sections. Every the restaurant is empty while I was. GonNa ask you about that too because every time I go to the park. My dog is not paying attention to the game and we talk all the time time about what are we going to do a baseball baseball's time. We can't keep kids paying attention to the Games. It can't keep fans attention game. No one's talking about how we keep. The dogs interested in a baseball game and you'd think dogs of all people would be super interesting because it was a boggling back and forth the entire team and they can't even keep dogs attention now. It can't though I will say that you you know both of my kids dogs. what they liked was you know getting the ballpark hot dog they. They enjoyed that they enjoyed the experience anthony go into the park and getting so far it was good. Stan. I've always wondered on these bark at the park nights like what happens. If the dog has to poop yeah we'd just cleaning love with baggy right. Yeah you bring bags with you if you have to but I I didn't notice any like in the areas they have like relief relief areas where the dogs can P poop so yeah and then you just clean it up and out of those areas so that they have that all taken care of and I'll tell you what all the pet food and pet treat companies or they're giving stuff away so the tickets were like fourteen dollars for each person Jason Fourteen dollars for each dog so 'cause you accu pie space. You get far more than that in giveaway stuff up there so It's actually even if you I didn't want to go to the game. It would be worth it to buy those tickets to give away places. Fill up your bag and head home you. Its worst worst pricing admission so if every dog needs a ticket. I assume there's a seat for every dog. How does this work with the larger dogs or they like awkwardly sitting with their arms on the arm rest yeah. Actually it's funny I mean most of them are standing in the you know in the aisles and things like that the really big dogs but yeah you do have to get a space base for each dog but you know the dogs. My kids dog sat in my my daughter has a really small dog. A terrier and my son has a Husky mix. It's a little bit bigger and tall taller but he they both sat in their seats for a little bit but you you know they basically wandered around and I seem to me with all the dogs were looking for from their own owners and from others were treats they wanted to get that sounds is about right. It's also what you want it. Antonio Right fighting my kids dogs for those Antonio Antonio. Put It on the poll. Please do dogs enjoy bark at the park and Stan if you ran the Pistons with the financial efficiency of you just describing describing the bargain that is fourteen dollars per dog but you can leave with a bunch of bags of free samples. If you ran the Pitch Pistons with that kind of efficiency you would be to you see right now in the east. That's possible especially for this coming season. you know that enough for the talent is sort of left east. I guess that's possible before you go. You WanNa Make Fun of Mike Ryan. WHO's not here about the start of the Cleveland browns season. You were there yeah there. They we're GONNA win. You know what hold on a second stand. We're going to call him in. We're going to call and see if we can find if we can get you to make fun of him on it. It's just going to sit there and take but he doesn't really need to be here but we want them to listen to you when we need him to hear some of this. Donlevatar punctuate this segment with what is your strike three call the strike one would be and then stand up a good point to the right Stugatz but straight through you get down low. You got your hands behind the catcher all right the right arm armed goes up into the air and then you finish it with the right arm way up into the air. We're like audio's off. This is our show with two guys on. Espn Radio Radio Stan Gundy GONNA continue with us year on the Shell Pennzoil performance line so it wasn't that long ago as the browns were the hype train one of the off season they were on. I take all the time they were really being celebrated Stan Van Gundy and Mike Ryan Browns Fan. Mike Ryan got into an argument about Baker Kerr Mayfield now. The browns are wanting to rex Ryan and saying that Baker Mayfield is overrated as hell. Let's go back in time a little bit to listen briefly to Mike Ryan and at a happier time in Cleveland Browns History Mike Ryan and stand talking about the browns during the off season. They'll sure are you that Baker. Mayfield is going to be a star mean. He's got the goods dude now. If there's any unnecessary it's got to get out of debt. Thank you very much definitely deserve. They got the goods. That's gotTa be more than two minutes. Five minute sure yes. Yes a five minute yeah. He's got the goods dude my grind. Do you want to defend yourself right now. Okay stands let him have it stands floors guy is i. I checked yesterday in. He's one of the top thirty two quarterbacks in the NBA. Two quarterback rating you know so I mean that makes see. I'm a starting quarterback in the NFL it makes him the worst starting quarterback in the NFL and the the thing. I think you add to it is everybody got so excited. Because everybody thought allow Baker Mayfield's a star he's got the goods and all of that and then they put all these weapons surround him and that's a terrible often so you know i. I don't know I mean my point. All along with the browns is is until they prove otherwise they're the browns and whoever you put in those jerseys is GonNa find a way to not be as good as you think. I think they're gonna be and so far now thoroughly so far. It certainly looks at Mike any Rebuttal. I mean Oh really okay all right. What's your later. Thank you checking with you. During your time thank you sir might discourage. The three came into the season. Take off a week from work and I think he's in a depression. Watch him that is correct all right Stan Dan. We'll catch up with you later and congratulations on the new GIG. It sounds like a lot of fun. We are going to miss you. Hopefully you stop around here every once in a while. I hope so too. Thanks Dan so. Have you guys gotten the quotes on Brett farve talking about this is a conversation that's God's than I have been. Having for the better part of ten years as we have loved talking to wide receivers and asking them some version of the question would you rather have twelve catches for one hundred forty yards and a loss or two catches edges for ten yards and a win and outside of the Super Bowl. Almost everybody responds they want the stats and even though we talk all the time about team unity and team sports and sacrifice their very human emotions involved and STU gods loves to accuse the STAR Player. Oh you're who's sitting and having to watch someone else have success be bitter and angry and jealous about what should be joy. It's a natural reaction. I'm just trying to point that out. It's just a natural thing to feel as you watch someone else. Take your job so Brett. Farve is saying that he li- manning I didn't enjoy basically any part of Daniel Jones's Sunday victory against the Tampa Bay box where Daniel Jones did a handful of things. Eli Manning has never done done ran for a couple of touchdown game overcame an eighteen point deficit was great against pressure so what are the quotes from Brett Farve on this billing early. He's said quote you and I- anyone else can only speculate what I was thinking for us it on his weekly serious. XFL NFL see serious accent NFL radio program mm-hmm but you have to think that deep down inside a part of him not wanted to see Daniel Jones fail but want but not play at the level that he did the great right. It answers a ten year old question. Thank you Brett also answering ten year old question. Is this this director who is making a movie about Action Park. This is something that God says introduced you to. It's considered the most dangerous action park in the world world. We did a thirty for thirty on at once. What if I told you thousand nine hundred seventy eight to nineteen ninety eight it was a waterpark that regularly killed Patriot that had the survivors longing to come back on its opening day over one hundred swimmers were saved from the wave pool that the wave pool was often referred to as the grave pool employees would describe as underaged undertrained and often under the influence that ride designers may have had insufficient training in physics and engineering that a guest once said they seemed to build rides not knowing how they would work and then let people on that during testing testing of the Canon Ball Lou dummy were thrown in and repeatedly came out the capitated. The ride was altered until the dummies came out and tat that park employees within offered one hundred dollars the tested out themselves. The pork owner purchased additional ambulances for the town to keep up with incidents at the poor work out.

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Hour 1 - Mary Kay Cabot (09-26-19)

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Hour 1 - Mary Kay Cabot (09-26-19)

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Welcome to the program. It's hour one on this Thursday. Dan Dan Dan Patrick. Show were down to Dan at Pauley. Holly is off for the next couple of days and that means fritzy is now the producer now. Are you executive producer today or just producer kind of senior executive executive pro senior all right so senior executive producer. Todd Fritz long with seating eight no connor and mclovin of course two days in Mario Making up the supporting staff here. If you'd like get in touch with the program you can brighty of ways you can dial us up eight seven seven three. DP show email address teepee Dan Patrick dot com. WE'LL CHECK IN WITH THE CLEVELAND Browns coming up also joe thighs men former Redskins quarterback. We'll talk about that situation -Tuation and when will we see Dwayne Haskins and how hot is that seat for Jay Gruden in Washington. DC Eagles packers coming up tonight and and this is one of those must win situations for the eagles. Perhaps packers. Are we gonNA see the offense that we thought we were going to see the defense has been great will explore floor that coming up as well Jalen Ramsey out indefinitely his daughters birth. He's waiting for that. You know back in the day. NFL players players would hold out but sometimes it was a big deal. Sometimes it wasn't but nothing like today because we didn't have social media doesn't daily football shows on TV and radio players kind of disappeared back then when they were holding out today. We know a whole lot about these guys how they feel about their contract. Sometimes we know too much and the latest is Jalen. When Ramsay in the spotlight showed up a training camp in a brinks truck led his team no he wanted to get paid then after week to he asked to be traded this week. Miss Practice with an illness missed another practice because of injured back and then all of a sudden. He's going to go to Nashville as his girlfriend is ready to deliver their baby now. I understand that if this started with he is probably going to miss some days this week he might miss this week's game with Denver because his wife his girlfriend is pregnant. Okay I think everybody would have said okay we understand that but when you say you had the flu and then you have a back injury and then you go to national like he's got in reverse order he could have done that and we wouldn't have been suspicious because even his head coach started laughing when he said yeah he's got a back injury or something started laughing. Jalen Ramsey doesn't wanNA play in Jacksonville. I mean maybe wants to play if they pay him but right now he's in. Nashville with his girlfriend is they await the birth of their baby daughter. If he said that the beginning of the week then we would have been fine but when you come in with don't income in with the flu and then you say I have a back injury and now you have this and Jalen Ramsey on the outside looking in and then you have Melvin Gordon Melvin Gordon. We think is going going to show up for the chargers their reports yesterday. The holdout is ending Melvin. Gordon is reporting to the team today will not play hey this week but he's planning on being back at practice so when I started I said this won't go well because it's the chargers Ezekiel Ezekiel Elliot was GONNA get paid. Jerry Jones was going to cave he did with the chargers knowing the chargers they weren't gonNA cave in final final year of his rookie deal which would paid him five point six million dollars for the full season well they did grant him permission to seek a trade and I thought what the Texans were going to be the ones to sign him but that didn't happen and you know this situation shows just how little you know leverage that these running backs have Zico Elliott was in a unique situation because it's Jerry Jones and Jerry desperately desperately wants to win one more super bowl to prove proved. He can be the one that's going to lead them to winning a super bowl because he had Jimmy Johnson got a lot of the credit back then with the cowboys and Troy did and Ama- did and Michael Irvin did but this time around Jerry says hey and I built this teen. I've made these draft picks and he needed to have Zeke in there but this is a guy in San Diego or in. La with the chargers that he's out nearly a half a million dollars with nothing to show for it. He missed four paychecks. I was thinking then just sit out the entire year. If you really WANNA take stay on but he's out that money now he comes back and he's lost all of this money yes he can. Jerry Jones really sit back and be like say the cowboys win the Super Bowl this year yeah be like see told you. I'm the genius. Genius only took me twenty five years to do it again but it's all told you as the guy who did it. I don't know if he will say it that way but I think privately he'll be able to say you know what I I'm responsible for this. I'm guessing twenty five years yeah yeah okay. I'm guessing so Melvin Gordon I guess is coming back and and won't play this weekend. I don't know what he proved but running backs as Leyland Bell showed us. Hey you can sit out. He got paid with somebody else. He wasn't going to get paid by the steelers yes mclovin seed and I were having conversation. After the show yesterday talked about how holdouts feel so different is a lot of this because of the rookie salary cap it feels like like a Lotta guys are running are just like running into that wall three or four or five years and causing drama well. They know that you know how many how many carries do I have in my body and if you're gonNA use me if I've said this. If I'm the giants I use saquon Barkley as much as I possibly can for those five years. It's not fair to the running back but if I'm drafting you that high. I want to get as much mileage out of you. I'm not as concerned about that next contract with you but now these running backs in these agents are saying well. Wait a minute here. How about we get a head start here and then we after three years we say we want to renegotiate here. You know and some of them are trying to do that but you know. D- Dis- Christian McCaffrey do this because should he's going to be getting a lot of touches this year and now with Cam Newton not in there. They're going to rely on him even more and at some point somebody's going to say well. He's not as quick. He's not as good he's not as durable in this is the one position in the NFL where we haven't protected them. You haven't protected them against the teams in how they use them and then I'd love for running backs to have a a four year rookie contract or three year rookie con- you know something that allows them just a little bit of leverage here but they don't have that in these owners are never going to give that up. Well quarterbacks. Stewart kind of it's ridiculous. Patrick Mahomes is getting a couple of million dollars a year so if you're GONNA make an exception for running backs. What about the quarterback yeah but we're protecting them? We do everything possible to protect these quarterbacks. You're not protecting running backs right but it's silly to Patrick. Mahomes isn't getting page. He has to wait till his fifth year. Maybe you don't have to wait. I mean he can say look I want to. I want to have a renegotiation. I want you to add more years to this but they don't have to. They they sit there no they don't but then that's when he says okay. If this is the road you WANNA go down. You know it's like that Prescott. A source told me right after there's e- signed that Jerry wanted to make sure he got Dak Prescott signed up right away because he didn't want Zeke to come back this team to be really good good and then I would put up good numbers now all of a sudden DAX worth even more. That's where we are with Dallas now. That's why you had those reports saying that. This is imminent that he because Jerry wanted to get it done in Dak in his agent. We're smart and saying let's let's hold on a little bit here. Let let's let this play out a little bit more because I still thought Dallas had question marks about Dak Prescott long-term coming into this year and then Kellen Moore came in as a new offensive coordinator. I was told they're going to throw the ball down the field more and then you know so then he's not one of those guys who manages a game. He's a guy who can win a game and I think that that was the label on Dak Prescott Escot. Prescott newsagent played this perfectly and he's going to get paid. You Know Patrick Mahomes you know he's going to put up big numbers again and I don't know what that means because there's only like incrementally. How much more do you pay him. He can throw for sixty touchdowns do pay are. Are you paying him even more than being the highest paid quarterback like I don't know how much I don't know how much room they have. How much ceiling is there for Patrick Mahomes. If he throws throws for sixty then you pay two hundred million. I feel like he's getting two hundred million when it's all said and done the club there's reports that it'll be the first two hundred million dollar man but but like you said though it's just sorta next man up but if you're a homes this is probably a dumb question. Do you want to go to high cap room to sign players around you like would you. I'd have to look at Travis. Kelsey tire kills getting paid. I'd have to look at mine line like I WANNA look Brady. Did this and he's continued you. Do this where you do survey the situation say all right if I'm taking less or we're spreading this out. What are we doing with that money. Bev Idea we we had the quarterbacks don't count against the CAP. Yes that that might solve some of this but there are these owners aren't GonNa do this. We're spending their money. We think let's let's do something that benefits quarterback or benefits are running back. The owners going wait house benefit me. Jerry Jones owns in these guys. There's no way they would go for that but I do think the quarterback should be separate from the salary cap then you'd have parody because the teams have bad quarterbacks. It would be like you know. You don't have to pay Tom. Brady then you have the salary you know it would be a problem a globe it is a part of the salary cap is for parody right. It's not yes yeah but it feels like it's next quarterback up and then that doesn't hurt you if I'm the bears. Do I wanNA play a pay. Mitchell trubisky one hundred thirty million dollars. There's no but if he's the next guy up then I have to pay him that and I think that that's a problem that they have as well that they all of a sudden. Next Guy Up is better than the next you know previous guy and that's not the case. They're not all better than the previous guy but that's the way the salary structure. Is this program brought to you by legalzoom when you need to make it legal make it legalzoom dot com save ten percent legalzoom dot com the Promo Code Patrick where life meets legal legalzoom dot come also the situation with the Cleveland Browns is interesting because this is a big game this weekend and as I read to you was it yesterday from a Cleveland Brown source where he talked about Baker Mayfield because I said how are you feeling about your browns and my source said defenses. Excellent Baker is struggling. He's not trusting in his eyes or his protection right now. We have too much talent to be down offensively for too long. It's disappointing on that side of the ball. This week is huge win and we're right where we need to be lose in. We're in trouble that your advice to Freddie Kitchens was excellent. Okay Rex Ryan comes out and and rex creates headlines where he said you know. Baker Mayfield is overrated as hell but I want you to listen to what else he says here because that's that's been lost in all of this here is Rex Ryan on get up with Mike Greenberg on ESPN. I've old back them. Jarvis Landry Niche Shove Baker Mayfield yeah. I know he's overrated. It's L. O. Like this. Here's the team knows you you have no tackles and so. Are we going to make an adjustment. You just going to let them get beat one on one all day long. Can I briefly go back to overrated as hell if I may Baker Mayfield as overrated rated absolutely look. I bought the Dang height right. You know I'm like Oh yeah but you know not to the point where everybody's saying he's going to be the league. Mvp what are you seeing that. He's not doing doing right now but you know what's he doing right greetings. I'M GONNA look at this. Here's a guy right now. That is a one read guy and then he's going to improvise. He's gotTa realize you were one of the slowest guys on that field. When you take off with it okay the other thing that ball's not coming out in in rhythm you staring down guys and you're not that accurate it down the field okay. I think what he's saying. There's a lot of validity to that the overrated as hell okay we can discuss that we can parse that because ESPN help overrate him as well as everybody else people had them going to the super bowl and maybe they go there right now. He doesn't have a great offensive line. I don't even know if it's a good offensive line. You don't establish the run you do have a couple of really good wide receivers but is is he locking in on one read and then all of a sudden trying to improvise and I would say yes I would say what rex if rex dozen say he's overrated rated as hell this these comments probably get lost and they're getting lost even by saying his overrated as hell but I said well. Let let me listen to what he's saying here because when you go he's overrated as hell and then it's easy to say well you know. REX doesn't have any ground to stand on all right. He might not have been a great head coach and certainly not an offensive minded head coach but if he looks at if he looks at Baker as he's a defensive minded coach and I respect wrecks from that perspective. He's looking at this as a defensive minded head coach now. He probably couldn't fix this because he's not an offensive minded head coach but I think there was validity Indian what he was saying here with Baker Mayfield. I think Baker realizes he doesn't have as much time as he would hope or maybe last year. This line is not very good good and to be fair to Rex Ryan. I think what he was saying. There's a lot of accuracy there. Here's Baker Mayfield on Rex Ryan's criticism the wise words Freddie Kitchens. If you don't wear orange and Brown you don't matter and Rex Ryan doesn't have any colors right now for a reason so it's okay that that doesn't mean that he doesn't know what he's talking about just because he's not employable. He doesn't have a job and you know he flamed out as head coach okay but I still wanNA listen to what he's saying and I think we get caught a lot of times. You'll listen to somebody and you listen to how loud they say something not what they're saying and REX threw people people off by saying you know Baker Mayfield overrated his hell and then he tells you why he thinks he's overrated yeah for two. It's not as hot a take. Take a you know you like to have these headlines overrated retell but if he would have just said I'm going to explain to you why I think he's not living up to the high expectations that we have Baker and then not. That's the other stuff that's important doesn't get lost in translation. Yeah I in look just want to hear what you have to say too many analysts they wanNA shout but they don't say anything to back up what they're shouting wreck shouted got it and then there is some substance there. I have no problem with that. That's his you know as an analyst is a former coach. I respect what he sees and he he's being paid to say something throwing it out there putting bulletin board material making headlines that that's rex but you know there is a subtext subtext here that I'm listening to you so he kind of undercut his point this by throwing that upfront yes with because that feels personal. That's not like a hey like the guy he's he's might be a nice guy or a great guy but these are the things that I'm seeing on the field instead when you overrated as hell but I don't know if people would have you know. Listen listen to the other stuff seat and if he doesn't say overrated as hell you know if he just said hey here's what I see with Baker Mayfield it doesn't I don't know if it resonates around the League and certainly with the Cleveland Cleveland Browns who said Hey you know what I see with Baker. Mayfield is kind of a one read. Guy feels like he's trying to improvise. Hey Athletic at Oklahoma but you can't be running around back there. Are you not Tyler Murray that kind of stuff but you know he got what he wanted. He got headlines here but I also want to be fair to rex with what he said about this. I think there's some validity and what Baker Mayfield is doing and I think this is a huge game huge game for the Cleveland Browns. You got a couple of those this weekend. Philadelphia tonight and I want to see what Green Bay's offense does. Is this the kind of offense they're going to have the rest of the season because we wanted to know that marriage between leflore and Rogers and right now it feels like Aaron Rodgers is being treated like he's a rookie quarterback not one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time we'll take a break. We'll check in with the Cleveland Browns as we have a poll question. We have a play of the day we got a stat of the day all of that coming up. 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It seems like maybe it's Aaron Rodgers. He all of a sudden is not among the statistical historical elite. Is that GONNA turn around and if it doesn't what does that say about him. I'm just I'm curious about the play calling here. I'm curious about this relationship ship here throwing the ball down the field putting pressure on the defense all the things that Aaron Rodgers has a hall of fame career out of he's been unspectacular and we're not used to seeing that with Rogers. They're averaging two hundred fifteen yards per game passing. That's twenty fifth in the NFL. The the defense has been great. That's I second rated defense right now but Roger says four touchdowns through three games. They're averaging nineteen points per game in that division. The bears defense and Vikings defense might turn out to be better than theirs so their offense has has to be substantially better and you gotta get in those games where you can put up some points against those defenses here and we know how great Chicago has been but I. I don't know it just rogers. Doesn't it feels like this. There's a feeling out process between him and his head coach right now now with that offense yes mclovin is it. He doesn't throw picks as possible. This is a good formula for them. Be Defense I and conservative on offense as long as Rogers is okay with it and you feel like you can win games by scoring nineteen points per game and that would be a concern for me because it feels like you're going to get into some of these shoot outs here and are you capable of doing that and is this defense sustainable. That would be the one thing I like the secondary. They made some changes up front but is it. Is it going to continue to to be a top ten. If it's a top ten defense you would think with Aaron Rodgers ability that this would be a super bowl caliber team because the last time they went to the Super Bowl. They had a top ten defense offense. They've drafting defense for years now. They've been drafted anyone for Rogers. They draft defense defense defense. These guys should be good where what is the offense men ranked here in the last since they went to the Super Bowl. What is what is. Where's that offense been ranked effort static yeah? I'm curious about that. So is Aaron Rodgers as a top five quarterback okay if he's not then. Give me your top five. Okay Patrick Mahomes easy. Tom Brady okay. Let's see well has brady show knew anything this year that would make like what is shown you look at the Patriots in and they're similar to the packers I. I don't think the offense is have been very good but their defense has been very good. Tom Brady seven touchdowns. No picks one hundred seventeen rating seventy percent almost seventy percent completion. It has it had to do anything. How do you tell okay a couple of other names in here. ooh. This is tough. You're right. Oh man it was breezes. Hurt Romped Act Prescott so far this year Dak Prescott a top five quarterback now. It's hard to tell even played anybody but that's okay but you're asking this question when right. I don't have another five uh-huh but okay and I'm not even close like you know who second in the League in passing he's got red hair as a hint and Andy Dalton Eighty Dollars Philip rivers third and they're not winning Russell Wilson. You'd put in the top five yeah but on that could put him over air rogers. He's in a similar boat. He's a bit of a not a game manager but he never aerated out you know. He doesn't have that many yards either. I think they ask him to do more than Uh. The Green Bay's ask Aaron Rodgers to do right but traditionally though he's not that kind of quarterback was last year at great numbers last year well he's down to one hundred twenty rating seven touchdowns no. I didn't realize you played like a staffers having good statistical year Matt Ryan having good stab but you're not Aaron Rodgers top-five quarter yeah there's but what if this trend continues where it just doesn't look right. It's do we rethink how we view you air rogers. I would rethink how they think of their offense is what I do because if I have Aaron Rodgers I one Aaron Rodgers putting as much pressure on the defense is possible because I if that defense is going to be like this the rest of the season. You'RE GONNA waste a golden opportunity here. If if you don't do something with your offense why is it feels like more like they're one and two and three you know because I read the Green Bay packers headlines what's wrong with the packers and there are three now. We've gotten so oh used to them. Scoring points that Aaron Rodgers is so dynamic and I think that when he's not doing it then we wonder what's wrong all right. The Cleveland Lieven Brown's got a big game against the ravens coming up this weekend in Baltimore and like a good time to bring in Mary Kay Cabinet who covers the Cleveland Browns for Cleveland Dot the Cleveland Plain dealer. How is morale there Mary Kay you know it's okay. I actually think that Rex Ryan did the browns. A huge huge favor and Baker Mayfield a big favor by saying he was overrated as how you know bigger needs that he needs that fire lit under him to get really motivated etiquette his game face on and I actually think he's really gonNA come out fighting on Sunday but I also think that there is some truth some validity to what rex was saying I just I made the headlines that when he says he's overrated his health and everybody was like a gas like Oh and then I go okay now. Explain yourself and then. He said some things that I thought were were accurate. And how do you think the browns look at that or Baker looks at that and says you know what maybe there is some truth in what he was pointing out here there there is some truth to some of the things that are happening to Baker Armfield this year I think defensive coordinators and he has faced really good ones have caught up to him a little bit and and they're doing things like confusing him at the line of scrimmage then flushing him to the right but you know actually the ravens are giving up a lot of yards this year and I think there will be opportunities for him to hit the big place which he really needs to do that. He needs to get the ball in the hands of Odell of Jarvis and he needs to get his confidence back a a little bit and I actually think this is a weak that he might be able to do that. Why is Freddie kitchen so reluctant to give up the play calling. I think that that that he feels that that's not really as you. I think he looks out there and sees an offense. That's coming together. New personnel new coaches tweaked schemes blending blending schemes and I think he feels like they're a play or two away. I think he looks at the goal line stand and says hey Baker Jervis on underneath route instead of turning to hit Dimitrius Harris up top in the back of the end zone. They win the game. No one's complaining. Should we reset our expectations for this team you know. I'll let you know after Sunday seriously if they win at Sunday there too they're tied for first in the AFC north north and they're actually ahead because they will have one beating the ravens and be ahead of them in the standings and when you look at the second half of the season not only are they getting Kareem Hunt back. They're getting Antonio Calloway back. They might get David Joker back but it's a very easy second-half you what yeah but that first half of the season and they could easily be two six after eight games. Yeah it's brutal. It's absolutely brutal coming up here and that is why this started start. They is so vitally important they four of their next five or on the road there only home game is against the Seattle seahawks. Two of those road games are against the Ravens even and the Patriots another one against the forty nine or so you're right. They have to stay afloat in these next four or five games. The defense has been I think underrated How would you assess the performance so far I agree with you one hundred percent. They've played really really well. If you look what they did against against the Rams I mean this is the high flying second in scoring last year and this was the Cleveland Browns team that was down a starting linebacker and all four defensive backs and they went out there and they almost beat the rams and they got cake was so yes. I do think that defense is underrated and I don't think the ravens conceded defense like this this year. I also pointed this out with Freddy Kitchens with Odell Beckham with Baker Mayfield. This is a team that is so caught. Call it up in what people are saying about them and I know you said Hey Baker. Maybe he needed this with what Rex Ryan said but you know my advice to Freddie Kitchens is just just stop acknowledging any of this stuff. Just say you know what we're moving on subscribed to the bill belichick playbook here when it it comes to dealing with the media but to deal to listen to everything here and this is how you start to have cracks in the armor with a team with just display it's. Oh you lost and then you'll regroup but it feels like they just continue to carry this baggage with them. do sense this when you go to those press conferences insist that every little thing seems to bother them. Yeah they talk a lot about blocking out the noise but they don't lock up right right. I mean it's a very good game in that way. Bakers never blocked out. The nurses used the noise to his advantage so we're that's ever going to change with him but I agree with you. In general they could do a better job of just letting stuff roll off their backs but this is also a team that has talked big of selves heading into this season and that hasn't really helped them with some of the teams the titans for instance remember Delaney Walker heading into that opener and saying you know we're sick of Cleveland including that well the Ravens but they're saying the same thing heading into this game and I can assure you that John Harbaugh will use that as a rallying cry Mary Kay thank you as always we appreciate your time thank you. Mary CABOT COVERS THE BROWNS for Cleveland Plain dealer. They're really sensitive team. They are and you you and I know Baker will have a chip on his shoulder the rest of his career now he handles you know the criticism or the media. I don't know how let changes as he's maturing quarterback. Drew brees still has a chip on his shoulder but he doesn't. He doesn't carry it. It's not right there for you to see Baker Mayfield. It's there for you to see in. The media knows this and you know. The opposition knows this. You can get a response out of him and Freddie Kitchens. It feels like he's probably saying hey. I got a chip on my shoulder. People think I shouldn't be in this job. I didn't do anything to really earned this job job. There are other guys who do far more and don't get an opportunity to be the head coach and that's true. I understand that but I would just hunker down. I would not say anything about this. I would just try to go right down the middle now. Don't give the media anymore than what you've already given given them with. Your play in. This bothers you so what if Rex Ryan says that wreck says that but I'd also look at what wreck said and say say. Is there any truth in what he's saying because there have been times that I've been criticized you know media critic will say something about whether this show when I was on ESPN. You're like you know bleep you but then you also have to look at this and go okay. Is there some validity to this and there were times when I said you don't want they they were right about that or how I handled something or the question that I ask or I didn't ask and so you have to have that ability to be able and I'm older though oh I'm older than Freddie or Baker obviously and it took me a long time to get to that point where you just go okay and all you do is just you compile a list of of people who say these things and then that's all privately it's there. You don't have to do it publicly but today's athlete does everything publicly we got to ask. You got to tell me everything. You don't have to tell me. Everything just play football now this set of why does this set of fire under Baker Mayfield. We're the three games into the season where people think you're going to the AFC title game and I have to light a fire under you. I'd be really concerned about that. So Baker plays differently now because Rex Ryan called him overrated as Hell Okay Yeah McClennan. I was surprised to hear Mary Mary Kay say that at Baltimore such a great opportunity I know Baltimore got torched by Kansas City's offense but that's usually a really good defense and yes. They blitz like crazy. Dan Do confusing things. It doesn't feel like putting a little too much pressure on Baker again lake. Does he really have to Torch Baltimore to prove that he's the man well I thank you have to have the offense should be leading the charger because that defense is really good but as we found when defense is no matter how good they are stay on the field as long as they do then they're you know they're not as great formidable and that would be my concern with. Cleveland is that offense has got to have some drives got to put up some points give that defense and opportunity to catch his breath because now you're going against Lamar Jackson and apparently everybody's all in on Lamar Jackson being being the second best quarterback in the NFL or certainly in the conversation Cleveland's defense against him. That'll be a nice little test for them but you know I put this on the offense. Everybody talked big now. It's time to put up the AMICK. Love Canal make the playoffs if they do go to and six as you said as a possibility uh well you're right. This is ridiculous lot of Bengals the second half of this like yeah you can benefit from a banged up steeler team and then you you have the bengals in there as well. You'll have the ravens one more time but you have you know those games leading up to. I mean look at the schedule. They're mclovin. Let let's just run down. Let's be will be loose in our possibilities of the Cleveland browns winning these Games so you got Baltimore this weekend right. Okay Have Baltimore this weekend and then next week. Thank you have a tough Gabe. Get at the niners playing an amazing defense on Monday night. YOU HAVE THE SEAHAWKS in Cleveland. You have at the Patriots at the broncos. Which is I know? The broncos are good but at mile high is always hard and then the bills who are three now. Let's say so. That's how many games that you pointed out there. I think that is that is that six games at is through week ten so that's nine nine games in total okay. Let's say they're four and five. They're in great shape then because then they have Pittsburgh Miami Pittsburgh Cincinnati Arizona One more against Baltimore in Cincinnati so so you have a bunch of teams could be at the bottom of the Santa's and maybe maybe you get nine wins. Maybe nine wins wins that division maybe nine and seven but it feels like you're going tap. Ten wins to win that division and that means Cleveland's got to be great in the second half of the season. I just WanNa know what their psyche is after the first half of the season if they go to an six by the way at San Francisco we don't know do we know that the niners earth or not. I know that defense is good yeah I don't. I'm not in the Jimmy Garoppolo fan club yet. What about Buffalo. Are they real three and a team. They've had a very schedule at buffalo though yeah that's it's a little different at Buffalo. I think Buffalo's a year away but buffalo at Buffalo Buffalo schedule might make them nine and seven ten in sixth yeah. Maybe maybe but you know we look at these games and we go all. That's a win. I guess is this weekend a win against Baltimore. They're they're big underdog underdog underdogs six. I thought it was six. Okay check then. I'm just I'm curious. I Expect Baltimore to win that Game Yeah in Baltimore like they should win that game. It feels like they're a better team right now but you just came off that loss in Kansas City and you come back home but this a Cleveland team that you know has it one at home or lost at home coming six and seven all right. We'll take a break. We we got her play. The day coming up. We'll settle on a poll question. got a stat of the day and we're ready to hand out baseball awards for the regular season also the top one hundred. NBA Players we tease this a little bit in the last hour of yesterday's show we're Zion Williamson is ranked and a big reveal here with ESPN with the rankings on who the number one player they gave you everybody but the top two which means it's either quite Leonard or the Greek freak. Yes mclovin right. I I read Kevin. Durant is not on the list. I thought wait they can't put Kevin durant number one or two but I forgot to battle by the way the nets are doing the right thing. Do not even hint that Kevin Durant can play this year because Golden State. Did this where you had an owner saying. Hey Yeah we expect him to come back in the NBA finals. Don't say a anything with Kevin Durant just say no. He's not playing this year yes he. There was a splash of a report where somebody who was said. We'll right right now. league-wide people think Kevin Durant playing this year and all of the sudden it was like no no no no no no no not happening completely. Shut down you. GotTa shut that down absolutely because I don't don't want people going Kevin. I thought you were gonNA play because he came back during the finals and he shouldn't have come back during the finals does. I don't think he was healthy to come back and play all right. We'll take a break play of the day coming up next okay. This is just a thirty second commercial and I'm going to throw a lot of numbers that you please. Please stay with me in just fifteen minutes. 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That's ADT real production brought to you by ADT. God play of the day in the wind up and the payoff pitch on the way Austin Ola swing and a fly ball in a shallow left Centerfield. That's GONNA drop in pay said Nola crashes the Greek party with a single into left center field Sag Greg. No hitter for eight and a third innings Austin the Nola with a pinch hit single here the bottom of the night mariners radio network the Astros had the third best. Era in the major sure since the all-star break behind Cleveland in Saint Louis and cranky that would have been the third no hitter by the Astros this season but they pick pick up the win. I was also watching the Yankees a little bit last night. The Yankees had one hit. They struck out sixteen times last night. Just the second time in Yankee team history. They've had one hit and struck out sixteen or more times. The only other time was Pedro Martinez. He had seventeen strikeouts and allowed L. Just one hit in one of the great performances I've ever seen I think Pedro Martinez is underrated. He was and you watched him pitch and he had movement moment and he had enough velocity to keep you honest. He wasn't afraid to throw inside and I was also wondering this Major League Baseball because you know did you celebrate this year. If your Major League Baseball your all time home runs all time strikeouts but it feels like each year we're GonNa have all time home runs and all time strikeout ounce. Do you get to the point. Where maybe you modify the baseball so they're not hitting as many home runs therefore they're not talking to strike out as much because they know they can't hit as many home runs and then you had the Baldwin play a little bit more. That's the way baseball used to be played. I don't know if you know the powers that be want that to come back where you put the ball in play where you're gonna be hitting a hit and run. You're going to bunt. You'RE GONNA you know base. Hits doubles those kinds of things where now it's just. Let's just load up. I'm loading up to strike you out and you're loading up to hit a home. Run off of me. That's what Major League Baseball's become and maybe you know the owners and the commissioner say that refined with all of that and that's fine if that's what their their game plan is. I don't know if the younger fan says I want to see strikeouts. WanNa see the radar gun. I WANNA see guys throwing ninety nine. I want to see guys hitting home runs. I grew up at a time when I watch baseball where there was movement in and you go well okay so what's the big deal. If you watch a baseball game how much movement you have and they were just just small things but there was strategy far more strategy than there is now and I don't want to sound like the get off my lawn guy. I appreciate the home runs but there's too much of a good thing. strikeouts used to be embarrassed. Nobody's embarrassed anymore like two hundred strikeouts if you struck out one hundred sometimes you're embarrassed. Now doesn't matter it's like hey you got your rips up there man. You'll get him next time and these pitchers. That's why you know. They're blowing out their arms. We're just hey bringing another guy. Throws Ninety doesn't mean he can pitch you got guys who can throw doesn't mean you have have guys who can pitch. I wonder what Greg Maddux would be like now. Because he used throw really hard when he was with the cubs and then all of a sudden he became a pitcher instead of a thrower and then I was watching Jacob degrom man. I'm fascinated by him. I really am he's going to win the CY young again at eleven in an eight and he dominates people in the mets. Were pretty competitive this year. I'm surprised he had only eleven wins but you you start to look at you know the Astros are probably going to have the two Cy Young Guys Garrett Cole and Justin Verlander is bellinger your. 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Bunkercast XXI: Colleen Wolfe - Quarantine Mount Rushmore

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Bunkercast XXI: Colleen Wolfe - Quarantine Mount Rushmore

"Hey everybody big news that we're excited to share with you on Friday. We are launching the around the NFL twitter show. It's a live program that you could catch at one. Pm Pacific Four PM Eastern nine pm over in the UK so you got a little lunch hour In the West Coast on the East Coast. Happy Hour and yet Some cocktails late at night over in the UK. We're excited for you to check it out. This pandemics been great for you know connecting with people around you connect with us you know. Get on your phone. Send send US questions. Yeah it's it's just nothing short of an Internet a tornado coming at you. And why would you WANNA miss that? You'd WANNA BE WANNA be witnessing that visual and that's not say you can see us but there's going to be mean social video you can tell us which guests you want on. I mean it's going to be interactive. Sounds Fun it's the only way to see or hear from us on Friday will be our only show a check it out the around the NFL. Twitter show one. Pm Pacific Four PM Eastern Nine PM in the UK can't wait now. Let's get to the show around with the NFL. Podcast wait. This is what always welcome to another edition of the around the NFL podcast. My name is dance. I'm coming to you from a city filled with heroes in bonkers mark settler. Chris Wesseling Greg Rosenthal. What is up boys in high demand? This a special week. We got a lot of guests and this person is not even really a guest. She's part of the family. She's one of the heroes and for the first time ever I mean. How special is this guest? Not a guest actually a member of the family. She's got her own sanctioned theme song from a contest that lasted weeks and came down with one winner so introducing on the around the NFL PODCASTS. For the first time with her theme. Music. County Fox. Crank that up. Turn that up my headphones. So there's worked Ashworth. Don't don't do stupid got to keep it going. We could just do that. The whole show can just be that. That's fine what is up there. She is welcome back to the show. How you been? How are you holding up? I know you're doing a lot of puzzle work. Obviously you and Gonzalez are doing some Improv. Work in some on camera work together. I'm enjoying that the cooking. It seems like in County Fox headquarters. Yeah well I just finished a slice of lemon ricotta cake. I've to date now done a pineapple upside down cake a Brownie cheesecake dilemma ricotta cake. I think a pie is next. I've been puzzling and work. Put a camera at the house because I think they know that if they don't keep me busy that I will continue to post like increasingly more concerning content so I think it's just a safeguard for everyone. They're keeping you busy too on the network side. You're all over the television during these times about that. Yeah I did a little total access today. In fact I've been doing total access on Thursday and Friday. Little mock draft live on Tuesday. Who knows what's next how they had that upside. How intrusive is that Home Cam? Does it watch while you sleep? Well they told me that I can't turn it off which is concerned x t shirt. Yeah I have a t shirt over it and then I have disconnected the audio like twenty seven different ways so for now. It's okay you however we go ahead however rat Lewis also has a home cam at his house and he informed me that there was nowhere else to put it except for his bedroom so that is not minus and are we absolutely certain that there's only one camp that was set up. I mean how closely we watch this. I at Brighton. It's to be believed. There is only one but this is a crazy mixed up world so who knows there was a movie that came out like Nine Hundred Ninety two starring Sharon stone and one of the Baldwin brothers. I believe it was billy Billy Baldwin. Who Love People? Don't remember billy called Sliver That was about a a lot of cameras being set up in someone's house without their knowledge. So just you know a radar situation for you side. Note I actually had the soundtrack to sliver. Which will be forty song on it. There was one or two it was it was dragged down by ninety percent of it being completely the opposite of memorable. I don't know how love liver it sounds. I think it actually had the cover of can't help falling in love on it by the EU before right before it made its way onto a number of totally ill-fated mix tapes that I made for like ninth grade girls terribly also in ninth grade just to be clear about that. Which came up on the throwback podcast last appearance where we went through Mark Chesler? Mix Take favorites. So dig that up out of the archives. If you WANNA learn more about mark's romantic journey then led him to the beautiful. Tessler you could call. Ub Forty can't help. Falling in love is on the sliver soundtrack while the movie whose tagline was like. Hey remember seeing Sharon stone naked in basic instinct. You'll love this one the next one and she's making again at that. So colleen so great to have you here. It's like a family reunion especially given given the times and I think we talked about it on this show or who knows. Maybe it was on our Our to a text group is Labeled at and labeled by calling eight months ago That are hanging out the Friday before everything got locked down has actually served as the last time any of US had any type of social connection so to get us all. Get back together again. It feels good. It's great that was like the last supper of like happy hours. I got like a a Potpourri for the show today. I think we've got a lot of fun stuff to talk about. We're going to get caught up on with everyone in quarantine. What's go around the group Ricky you included a kind of quarantine Mount Rushmore. If you had to pick four people to be locked down with shelter in place can't be loved. Ones must be living and at least one of the four people has to be an NFL. Figure I'm just curious what you guys are. GonNa come up with with your list. My List is pretty incredible. And I. I'd like to see anybody to try to beat it loved one. Can it be like people you know friends no for anyone that you already acid or someone close like an intimate person like for you for instance? Jesernik couldn't be on your group couldn't be like grover from Taibbi island guy too I I could pick from Taibbi sacred exactly. Okay can't be dead. We can't steal. Look Asia from West is what you're saying it would be a fight feels too intimate at this point and also. GonNa get caught up on the news with another twenty twenty flash with Mark Chesler and Before that and West says something has to get off his chest. They can't wait for that. We're GONNA say that for the end of the show. What's on West is radar upper before that colleen when we were chatting and text you and I earlier this week you had mentioned something that had started to evolve out of your inner self over the time of this lockdown? You want to explain a little bit to the audience while I texted Dan and I said as it weird that I'm starting to have feelings for Andrew Cuomo and I don't think that that is necessarily original at this point. I think other people are feeling that as well. But it's almost like Andrew Anthony duo that has evolved in my life of Android Anthony. Fauci two guys who would have previously never really looked looked twice at and now they have really just invaded my living room and I feel like they're here almost every day and having some weird feelings. It's not an invasion. If they're welcome. You're just opening the door right up on not a great effort for Chris. Cuomo looks very much like Andrew. Cuomo WHO's on television Prominently also left out of your love interest pool well. I'm feeling a little bad for Chris. Right now because he's quarantined in his basement with the virus. He's got their own. So it's been my feelings have been more directed towards the leader of New York right now although you know the continued disrespect of our Governor Gavin. Newsom I mean if you're go into central casting for like a hot governor who didn't make maybe as many mistakes as AS Roma newsom. That is catching feelings for Greg. Yeah I think I'm big Fan. Let me Google him. I want to get a good look at them. Now come on. You don't know what our government I mean. He's he's been on top and it's something to take a good look at him. Oh Yeah Yeah. Oh Wow. Hello Debbie six. Three two great seems like he'd be like a city official in the Batman Films. Basically Greg newsom would be such a great Couple all Goliath. Then you'd be on his arm. Anyway that's That's who were catching feelings for during the lockdown and now it's time a twenty twenty flash with Mark Miko thank you team in will the NFL draft be undone by a gaggle of Luddites with April trap. Just weeks away and set to operate remotely Adam. Schefter reports certain coaches in front office. Staffers are reluctant to have faceless tech nerds in their home while the corona virus does its thing a point of view not shared by the demand. Who loves when strangers enters living space for casual small talk fellowship over a potluck supper and maybe just see what the night leads to write demand? Just read the new jerk. Meanwhile bengals coach Zack. Taylor says all options on the table when it comes to X. Starting quarterback Andy Dalton to glowing ginger man has other thoughts with one bengals insider telling us that Dalton wants to start elsewhere under a new contract that would allow in quotes dead presidents to rain down from every room in the house. It's a workplace. Tactic made popular by our very own. Tiny box who currently makes more than every staffer on this show combined time six while doing puzzles with a man the bathrobe pulse running. Akeem hines is expected to get plenty more accidents upcoming autumn for the athletic not the case. Where the demand? Following his. Better half soft reboot in a household adrift with big toddler. Energy in Hollywood is jets quarterback Sam darnold about to follow in the footsteps of Broadway. Joe darnold 's name has been discussed for a lead role in the much anticipated. Follow up to Y. Two K. INDIE. Hit shock a lot working title of chocolate over drives. The role would require darnold to learn French scratch and tumble into a heated love triangle with fifty six year old. Julia cannotch in eighty five year. Old Judy Dent. Not a problem for darnold. According to Hollywood Power Regents Bryan. Lourd noting has been in quotes a huge dense guy for years and doesn't see age when looking at a female overall makeup you know. The demand is happy for Sam but at the same time turning green with envy after spending the better half of two thousand six founding the dench boys a members only fan clubs dedicated to tracking dentist many on and Offscreen Love Affairs with reports every twenty minutes on a very slow news day. This is Mark Chesler with your twenty twenty sports update. Thanks make man. We'll talk about what happened to the body bag on the floor and I'm in it. I Yeah I am a little concerned you know. We launched the two thousand twenty flash in honor of W WFAN and the MINK man. Who is the best one and twenty guy and he gets canned days later? A little bit of a correlation. I'm a little worried about that. I mean I'd go down the Jameis Winston route and just say not a compliment. I don't feel good about because it was someone like he was embedded in. You know great man so one man one bit of news that the McMahon did miss and we haven't been getting enough. We haven't been getting a lot of news on the bow ringer front so I figured it's time to just more things a little bit here Let's catch up with a friend. We haven't heard from a lot lately and now another edition of SIP. Vena checking our new program or check in Gino Smith. Greg's favorite Football Player of all time the West Virginia former second round. Pick of the New York jets. Who was in the news? Maybe not his fault that he was in the news. He got dragged into the news cycle by his old head coach. Rex Ryan who on ESPN Decided to take shots at his former quarterback. Here's what rex had to say. Let's give somebody else. That's give them. Gino Smith let's give him whoever and let's let's see. How many Soup Bowls Gino? Then shot back on twitter. My mom never liked dude. He'd been a snake and y'all glorify it should have got fired after year. One Truth is eight games in two thousand thirteen after. Espn winning two. And he got his job back somehow. I'm caught up in the feud and I'm the scapegoat. Same Guy that drafted me. Hashtag the business. Gina Smith unemployed as of this time Rex Ryan out of football on the sideline and make a noise. Greg your thoughts on your boy. Geeta Smith I mean wreck. Seems to be projecting here he. He was expected to be this. Great head. Coach fizzled out. He's an under five hundred coaches expected to be a big time analyst. That doesn't seem to be going that well. Now he's taking shots at Gino. Who Really did get rex? Ryan paid an extra year Gina. Smith didn't win those games in December of two thousand thirteen rex. All here we go blowing twenty fourteen. Here we go again with Greg. Talking about Gino's two thousand thirteen. December. I mean it is it. Is it a factor? Not those jobs saved numbers. Yeah those those games saved them. The calendar on Greg's Mount Rushmore houses. Just December two thousand thirteen with Jean sitting right next to him. And this is the same wreck sue referred to. Mario Cooper is at third after occur. Scientists deal. I think what's happening here with. Rex is either. He now realizes he's Never GonNa be a head coach again and he doesn't WanNa take an assistant job so he's now putting on the few shades and decided just to blow people up to get as much much notoriety as possible I kind of get the VIBE. That's where he's at now and I don't know when these things are forced. They very rarely work. So it Claybon. Desperate Claybon said give the Patriots Rex Ryan and see how that would have gone in to let me interject here and someone who traveled along the Italian Germanic Countryside's with Rex Ryan in and has spent plenty of time along with you guys working with brother. I couldn't disagree more. I think he's correct in what he said his his analysis spot on and I hope to hear more. I like that and let it never be forgotten Greg. That in January two thousand eleven rex Ryan went up to Foxborough in one playoff game. I mean Gino Smith been involved with a lot more winning playoff games over the last few years. Rex leaks define involved avenue. The backup quarterback Russell. Wilson needs help when Philip rivers needs help. They know where to go. They go to Gina. Gina still unemployed but we will be tracking it in our new segment and that was another edition of Sipping on Vino. Check in on G. now that segment has legs. I could see. I'll see many more chapters to come. I would imagine over the next couple of months. I mean the thing with keeping up with Bo Ringer which is one of my v. When I was doing. Now Your Guy Gino's my guy go pick another one and you guys know I mean I don't you like the idea of a segment that keeps Gino on the show and some capacity. I mean not if he's going to be mocked dignity of Gina very relevant so it makes sense all right. Let's let's have some more fun. It's a it's a slow news day in the NFL. So let's do it. Quarantine Mount Rushmore pick. Four people cannot be loved. Ones cannot be family who would be your optimal people to shelter in place with for weeks slash months. Is this going to be months? Is it already months? What is time we were hitting twenty eight days tomorrow because that first Friday was the first bunker cast. It was also the first day schools. Were out so that's twenty eight days as of tomorrow. Twenty eight days later anyway of the four at least one must be an NFL. Figure so Connie why don't we start again with you? I'm very interested to hear what your Ouattara would bay all right so I'm giving all four right now. Yeah let it rip okay. This was very difficult. I had many questions about it in terms of could we have somebody who is dead in quarantine with us not actively dad obviously but somebody from the past bring them back that is not okay so here are my four. I'm going to go with Michelle Obama because she's incredibly relatable. Intelligent inspiring great conversationalist also. I want to know all the details. About what actually happened at the White House and all the global drama that happened and I feel like I would be able to get some of that in quarantine plus the extension of Barack Obama facetime. It just feels like that would be great at. I'd sign an NDA. No problem okay. So Michelle Obama. And then my. Nfl figure is Mark Ingram. Because I just love him. He seems both chill and fun at the same time and I feel like he would be a great hang every time I've ever interviewed him. He is super easy to talk to. And it just feels like no matter. What group you have assembled. He would be perfect to just drop in. And there's a good example that mark could not Select Mark Ingram because they are friends whereas lean does not have a personal relationship so she could select him. That's my update on on where things stand between me and Mark Ingram. Not sure he has any idea who I am at this point but I'm hoping so. Okay I'm also going to go with Tina fey because obviously obviously she's hilarious and bright and she's from Philly so that appeals to me and it somebody who took one of mine you to- DARENA. She is somebody got her. She someone I could do Improv with. So then I'm ready to take that allows rockies should do and Yeah I'm going to. I'm going to brush up on my skills with Tina fey. This is my favorite even under the radar feud between Erica and colleen about the Improv class that went sideways. I signed up for calling. Says she was picking the Guy Up. Anyway you're so full of Shits Creek. It's ridiculous I'm guessing you to your ultimate potential ricky. I'm just trying to get you there. Candidates you guys smooths over with like a SPA Day. I suggest that and then we fell through it fell through my groupon and I can't use it on Monday holiday weekends. Yeah so anyway. I don't know what happens in prioritize that quality time with Erica my life with. Mj Kosta. Listen I was going to go to this with Erica. In fact I texted her and I was like. Oh my God. It's Emma's birthday. We should definitely go to the spot together and take pictures and send them to Emma but as it turns out was Emma. My nieces my goddaughter's birthday and not Emma. The second half of the broadcast blocks. Can I love Good Moorefield? He's yes also philly he's been doing like all of these amazing sets during the lockdown. So I've always wanted to learn the drums and I feel like bring bring your tables and wall. Hang out and play great music and do Improv. Together it'll be awesome. Ooh That's that's a good one that's an NFL player. Ingram or Ingraham. Okay good all right. That's a nice nice foursome. I now Rounded all right Greg you're up someone else go. You know we'll we got all right. Mark Yuck all right. I also struggled a little bit but I. I'm going to go with some people that have made me think struggling a lot today. Marc I and I would say this has been from me a D. minus performance and. That's being generous back. The curtain a little bit mark is the most punctual member of the around the NFL podcast. I'm on the other side of that probably And when Mark Census Attacks Twenty minutes before showtime saying he needs extra time. You know something. There's a war zone going on at the rented pad. Yeah Well My. My wife is trying to work fulltime right now and she was on a call or something and I have two boys under the age of talk ten that needed to go to the bathroom and not the easier way but the harder option there at the same time and one not let the other into the room and was using like taking twenty five minutes washing his hands while I was trying to teach a child number two how to squeeze your butt cheeks. So issue doesn't happen. It's a life skill but that was happening at about two minutes before we were meant to be signing on. It's not always glamorous this this life it is not that. I never had that conversation with night add cheeks. Don't act like you've never done it all right here. We go for the quarantine for some five. Some I guess number one. We Go Alec Baldwin because I've always liked Baldwin thirty rock on fire yet Baldwin. I mean if you've been watching his live instagram updates which I always get them like. I'm going to watch like twelve seconds of this five minutes later. I'm like I have no idea what he's talking about. He seems to be. I don't want to suggest that. He's on a substance but in a natural high of some sort and not operating in reality and he also looks like he hasn't slept or done anything healthy in about four or five months and the whole thing is just very appealing to me and so he. I think he could add some Gravitas to the room. I'm mixing up. It's male female. You want all all guys you know stuck together for four or five months so not we knew you'd have females in the mix all right. Let's get some different personalities and number two Delgado because I gotTa tell you here's what I do. I would put her in a lot after her little imagine song which I think deliciously went totally sideways you have to sit in a chair in a corner for the first like ten days and she we would just be able to you know we could give her little plates of food or something that she learned to live like the. I Love Greg's Face Paul. I learned to live like the Red Lake. Premium punishing yeah. She's she tough way to start out on the been very bad and she'll just sit in the corner. I think it's the kind of hot well. And then the third person because you're going to this NFL figure and you're GONNA say. Oh you know this person. But I've worked with this person for over a decade at this point and the person has no idea that I exist in the same employment or workspaces. That's Michael Irvin who I know colleen could not pick close with but an absolute and I don't know anything about him other than what I see on screen I would. You got to bring a wild card in and to me. He is an absolute total wild card in a locked in space. And I wanna see what he would come up with over the course of the next twenty eight days and my fourth person along the lines of the show that Erica watched. I still think that the last show that I'm a complete EST on before all this mess happened was love and love is blind. And I'm going Jonah. From love is blind because I've been tracking her instagram and I find her to be a Pre Cova pick. Yeah well she also if you watch her instagram feed. She seems to although you know. Someone's writing some sort of message from her. Have no idea that pandemic exists. She's out about her garden. Like in a four thousand dollars S. She's doing her hair. She's eating like six thousand dollar cupcakes. I. It's while while while a nice break from the mess at the same time. I'm slightly appalled with her so and I consider her own. Maybe one of the few people. That's a bigger wildcard than urban. So you put all those people together and I just would be enjoying the sights and sounds. That's a delicious so you won't see also be punished. No she's not in that same Gilgit. Oh we get a chance to repent for free so you you chose to women specifically have some animosity towards but also attraction is well animosity for sure but fleeting animosity does Gail. Stay in the underground soundproof basement. Or does she go up but she's in. She's in the corner and like uncomfortable share and she's not allowed to move all right Chris Wesley. Well let's start with the football figure. Look at we're going. Ricky Williams like that traveler soul searcher wanderer nonconformist and sort of the GAL Gadot vein. If he acts up we just stick a football helmet on him and put him in the corner. I think he might have had a line in the imagine song. I have to rewatch that. He might have And you know we're GONNA start a franchise with a Marco Polo type of figure. I need somebody who's gone to the four corners of the earth and can regale us with stories. And since I can't have Anthony Bourdain rest in peace picking Argentinian Chef Francis moment who is actually the most interesting man in the world. If you've ever seen chefs table on Netflix. On their he has. We're going to be quarantined quarantined at his lakeside. Hacienda in the mountains of Patagonia right by a lake. So we're going to have that ambience going and I said he's a chef so he works with fire. He works with water And he always has the best ambience. So we're going to start their first two picks then we go E. Suray from HBO's Insecure Nice Being Kishan I- arsim Paddock O- on my female picks. We're also GONNA go with Chrissy Teigen. Who has chef abilities of her own is funny and she might be a little much to handle quarantine situation. Go she can wear. Ricky's football helmet mcmorris West. Your list is like shockingly similar to the people that I almost had online which is crazy. I- borden was the one I was asking about whether or not we have somebody dead on the list. Chrissy Teigen and SRA were right there but didn't make the cut eventually. I love your list. I think it's great. You can hang out with us as soon as the quarantine is over done. All right. I will Throw up mind. I wanted to hit different like areas of because there's a lot of this is about time killing obviously the NFL figure. I'll start there also Ryan Fitzpatrick and I'll give a shout out to Neil Reynolds. Because Neil I have Documented evidence that Neil had an amazing time with Fitzpatrick who is very down to Earth and easy to talk to and had some interesting interest. Maybe we go down to a waterhole. Maybe I'm maybe I'm locked down at at his pad but too many kids there. Maybe I'll send the kids to California and Ryan my other two people at his house. Is that cruel? Maybe maybe not in this situation okay. I want to have a fun. Somebody funny so I'm going to go bill. Hader he seems like super down to Earth and I think he's one of the funniest guys in show business the business of show and just seems like a down to Earth. Guy That's important. I want down to Earth people and I but I WANNA rock star. Who's the most down to Earth Rockstar? Dave Grohl Dave Grohl of the FOO fighters. That dude has stories to tell. That's a big part of this too. I WanNa talk to people that have lived. The life wes grow is really big into barbecue. Now he's he's like multiple big green egg he's Oh he's always smoking and grilling he's yet west. Meat Plants are shutting down at the at the moment. So you met him Barbie better by and meet up right now. They want the amount of money that we have inside The bank account's we will get me Martin and finally Tina Fey But colleen drafted or so. I'M GONNA GO TINA fey Jason on some level. Stay in the NBC. Family Ago Jenna Fischer. I love the office love to binge the office. She is Another very cool down to earth person who I feel like we would Hit it off. Maybe a Jim Pam type VIBE. So Jennifer Pam from the office is my fourth so hater Grohl Fisher Fitzpatrick I'm sure. Emily would be absolutely thrilled with the tail end of that list there. No NO ISSUES. No problems over the course of a five or six months locked in a lock in lock in when you? Have you have an actress chain to your basement changer? Podcasts is just assume I come out into a completely new world in family structure and everything else so. I'm just assuming that I feel like Fisher is somewhat unassuming. I Dunno emily. It'd be messed up with that. But what maybe she is Greg Is. Are you ready Cher? Cher got me Thinking you do need someone. Ideally that's like a great a great cook so don't grow belt me out there. Yeah I'M GONNA go Padma from top chef if you're she was on my list good choice. It's just it's just a strong choice. Integrate Cook I wanNA musicians because I just want to. I want some entertainment. I want some personality. I'm going Lucinda Williams to play some guitar. I'm going mega million. I just think she'd had a lot of life to the party. And then I'm wrapping it up back with Teddy Bridgewater. Didn't we enter this question like a week ago? It's just like me and teddy hanging out with their three ladies. And we're chilling so Padma Lucinda Meghan and Teddy. Yeah you're GonNa talk to him about his little issue with air yards per cent I'm flying. We're not talking any football Ricki. Ricki closed out all right so first off I have. This was tough. I had to go between Taylor swift and Justin Timberlake but I ended up going with Taylor swift for music just because yeah just because we can hang out and like I just feel like she's super cool and I'd love to see Behind the whole sort of like the. Tom Brady Facade. Like what's what she really like For the funny option. I WANNA hang out with Kate McKinnon. So if she was hanging out we could just do. We could just improv skits together. All Day long you'll have you'll have a blonde partner that count on the Hasa. Stay in my house. So that'd be great and then also I want Neil degrasse Tyson to just like tell tale. Tell me like bedtime stories of just like how the world was created and he could work. I can just think of the funniest sketches would like. Kate McKinnon Taylor Swift on her guitar. And Neil degrasse Tyson like Narrating US doing simple tasks and my NFL FIGURE. O.`Neil will put you to bed. Yeah but like make me smarter and I really am interested in that like the way he does. Planet Earth is so great books. No I don't have time for that no I do. I do like reading. But I think it'd be cool to hang out with. And then lastly my nfl figure is Matt Ryan. I know such a shocker out of left field but I did an interview with him For Super Bowl with shack. Two years ago singlehandedly the nicest. Nfl Player. I have ever met like took the time to talk to us. Who was there like the little people on the side and not the interview. He was like. Oh How's your day going like? Oh it's early. Like made conversation was super sweet. Like took me aback. At how nice he was so I would take my gamble with you. Know What's interesting about that? Choice Matt Ryan. There's a flip side of that coin. He is known as one of the meanest. Sob's on the field in game action and he's very he's known to be very hard teammates who Go on the wrong side of him with. They make a mistake or some type of mental error. So here's the only concern there. You got the Nice Guy. That's doing the interviews on radio row the Super Bowl. What if the Real Matt Ryan is closer to the guy on the field? And you're like trapped in the house with like a psychopath Taylor swift can beat them over the head with Dr. Your description for Taylor was like I wanna see what she's really like like for this exercise. I don't want anyone who you're finding out what they're really gambles in your risk. You kidding me you literally just who was. Who did you say Meghan the Stallion Greg Likes? Who Seems Very Nice? She's my real answer would be no one. Of course I mean the real choice would be. I would rather be by myself not saying that. I'm just saying that's the obvious on Tara's point where going to get to know these actual people All of them. I mean it's it's going to be a bit of a coin. Flip how they turn out of all the people we mentioned. This actually happened when we all reconvened on the other side. I'm sure More than one of US would have a story of being deeply disappointed by one of our choices and no doubt that. Just not sad and mark mark's going to jail over so no I just I'm going in. Well I'm going extremely disappointed with two of the people so they can. It can only get better. I like yours. Yours is almost like you're trying to reform in a way. Let's learn some lessons. It's a prison all right. I just tried to Google. Megan Nostalgia he made that name up right. I didn't know if it was Meghan M. as stallion this she's literally like you know the biggest female rap star other than Cardi B. in the world. I've never heard that real life for real. Yeah I guess we're old. That's that's not on you guys. I Swear Yeah. You guys have heard her songs. They're everywhere. There's no chance that you wouldn't recommend not in my house. You WanNa get give me Foxy Brown. That's all well wrap. Vote on key. Shas now wrapping in the background. So she's heard of her a deal with an extra e chilly forgiven before we get to west his final thought and What's on his radar? I'm GONNA spend through it real quick sesser Baldwin Godot. Michael Irvin Gina Gina Cheonan. I go I just WANNA Connie Fox. Latino Love Tina fey Michelle Obama Mark Ingram West Ricky Williams. The chef guy what's his name. Francis moment fanciest moment Issa Rae Chrissy teigen little bit of a trouble spot there for potentially Zeus or hater. Grohl Jenna Fisher Fits Magic Greg. Padma Lucinda Meghan Stallion Teddy Bridgewater Ricky Taylor Swift Kate. Mckinnon Neil degrasse Tyson and Matt Ryan. Maybe we'll do some type of social thing. Ricky find out who has the best foursome That's Great Greg. Put it together since he knows what does best on social all right. Wes You you got something that's on your mind so it's time for Chris. Wesseling the mailman. What's on his radar his. What's on my radar? People writers in particular who frequently substitute the word folks. For people human citizens fans riffraff. Whatever yet have never and would never speak the word in actual conversation. If say the word folks don't write the word folks thank you. That's a great one west. Is it fair to say that Phil Simms and Chris Collins. Worth playing by your rules Collins Worth. I know he's been on your radar for years for being folksy. Well the irony here yeah. It's a very mid Western type thing. Isn't it hey folks of course as mid Western southern and people who actually use it cool keep using it so you think let me let me save. I'm reading the tea leaves here. People are coopting. What is your regions Kollek local term for you know goodwill there's two things going on here? Writers get tired of using the same word over and over again so you don't WanNa say people every time so I get that and the second thing that's going on as you're trying to act like somebody you're not you don't say the Word Folks. Just leave it out of your vocabulary altogether. It's SORTA like when people say that a player Inca deal like get. Outta here with that. Also signal-caller really no. I got a lot of triggers. We say signal caller though. Because you just run out of things to say we use Cigna consul-general out loud tap stuff beyond that. I don't know if you've been using it lately but I worked at the so long that I've read enough of your copy that you had one. It was a description for either a quarterback or a running back. It's like a a hurler or do you have some type of little outside. The box called a quarterback all those things. Because it's like you're in one of these stories where to Greg's point you're using the word quarterback seventeen or eighteen times. I I find myself when I look back at some old stuff. I've written which is rare. I'm like what the heck was going through the body and the system when I decided to use that. Ultra cheesy word hurler. I mean it's just embarrassing. So you're poulter oblong winger. Please like a baseball sports writer from eighteen. Seventy seven the hurler. Hey all right good one. Connie you've said it all you've game you've done it. I love you guys. I miss you so much. It's almost like we're hanging out. I'm trying to hug you through the camera. It's not quite working. It kind of looks like you're trying to choke US kids in the hall Checkout Colleen. She's all over. Nfl Network Right now and a reminder to everyone tomorrow Friday no podcast instead. It's the return of the around the NFL twitter show It's you know what it's kind of a trial run. We're GONNA see how it goes how we like it Had you guys like it? But we're going to put together a show that we think is going to be fun It's going to be live on twitter at one. Pm Pacific Four PM Eastern nine pm over in the UK so check it out. I sent out a prompt earlier today. Mellberg prop. So if you want to send in a question or send in common or anything you want video me what whatever do that and we will We might address it on the show. Check out the around the NFL twitter show tomorrow Friday and other final thoughts. Everybody hopefully not a trial that leads our ends in a death penalty for us which is another possible scenario of the coin. Continue or don't continue for you. Have none of us end up sitting in the corner of Mark's basement by the you don't want to be there all right we will now talk privately about whether we can keep in the Gal gadoe stuff and checkmark legally or we'll go as is but thank you to everybody for listening. This is Dan hands as signing off for the quiet storm. Connie pox the mailman the old Boston. Rick Hollywood in our old apartment Phil Friday. Check out the twitter show.

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Hour 2: Adam Schefter

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ESPN radio is presented by Progressive Insurance Progressive homequote explorer gives you multiple quote options so you can pick what's right for you. See for yourself today. At Progressive Dot Com Adam Schefter GonNa join us in just a second doc it here on the Shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. Rex Ryan called Baker Mayfield quote overrated as hell earlier this week. Mayfield old has responded by saying this. It's whatever in the wise words of Freddie kitchen if you don't wear Orange Brown you don't matter and Rex Ryan doesn't have any callers colors right now for a reason so it's okay despite what Antonio Brown's We'd last week agent drew Rosenhaus that he believes that Brown wants to continuing his career in the NFL at finally US Customs and Border Protection officers seized nearly four tons of we'd value to two point three million dollars mixed in with a log shipment of Reading Green Jalapenos at the Oj Messa cargo facility at San Diego for all the latest headlines and information tune into sports center on ESPN radio. All throughout the day. We like to show you and sink into the mistakes we made so just so that you guys got an excellent job of pivoting there but stu gods during the break was actually celebrating the idea of us doing something prepared and Professional. He's like I'm going to throw it to some old school. Radio sound either didn't tell anybody or the shipping container for Nano. He told me but I had the wrong. Sound loaded up lawn acted in the crock the regardless that is how we go to old school radio sound that was God's try. You did an excellent job of pivoting back to the quote with one of your clumsy pauses assist but that's what happens when we tried to do radio the way it has been done correctly throughout time. That clumsy pause was because I was expecting sowed. That's correct so we've got Adam Schefter. That's not the thing we get mad about around here. I'm sorry Adam schefter download and listen to the Adam Schefter podcast. Wherever wherever you get your podcast you and me are not allowed to make fun of anybody mistakes or get angry at anybody but a dollar that they're mistakes. Usually we talk basketball skit ball with Adam schefter but there's a lot of good football stuff going on right now so Jalen Ramsey at this point. thank you for joining us. Adam what he's doing is specifically specifically trying to be poor man's Antonio Brown and make things difficult right or is it really just the amazing coincidence of of He's gone from flew to back strain to having a baby and paternity leave like in in three consecutive days well first of all. It's an honor to be with you guys to actually talk football for the very first time. I don't think so this is quite an honor to be able to do this now as for Jalen Ramsey Look I. I doubt that his girlfriend is due and he wants to be with her and I applaud him. For putting family over football. We got all that but it doesn't detract from the basic the fact that there is a major staredown going on between the Jacksonville. Jaguars who do not want to trade jalen Ramsey and Jalen Ramsey who really really wants to be traded from Jacksonville and yes Danny is sick. He's sick of being Jacksonville. Jaguars the yeah exactly he's feeling and if there's a team that comes to Jacksonville with an offer it makes it change. Its mind that that's what j uh-huh you want. What it'll be interesting. Here is whenever this babies born if and when you rejoice teams. How's this GonNa play out because I think he's determined not to play this team. Determined not to play this team. And how does the team handled the team is making Nice right now but the team's not GonNa make Nice every misses Sunday's game against Denver and then potentially misses more games beyond that it's going to go from being a nice little story to a contentious will story and it is a staredown on right now but it just hasn't gotten that way in the public just yet. I if I may though like the flu and back spasms okay but he's playing high level chess with. I gotta go paternity. Leave go ahead and question me on this one goes. Hey Mom Ronin coughlan. Go ahead and questioned me on whether I should be allowed as a football player to go on paternity leave and miss a game you know in this board. Adam you've seen a number of times guys get crushed for missing a game for for missing a game for the birth of their child and many guys don't miss a game for the birth of their child yet but this one is different and I think everybody knows that it's beyond just the child look. He wants to be there and like I said we're. GonNa applaud him for doing that but it's beyond just that right. It's just it just just is you know and and by the way the week it started out on Sunday night. He's not rejoin the team. He's going to be with his pregnant girlfriend as she gives his birth year okay fine but but I it was the flu right and then the flu quickly became the back and the back became a baby and I just I just want the baby doesn't come down with the flu right who brings the flu around a baby. It's a great point but I don I love and old fashioned staredown and you would agree the guy you want staredown with Tom. Coughlin right you don't blink you know what I I would also say jail Ramsey in this particular case when you're the best quarterback we're back in football and you you you. WanNa move out of that franchise or Maroon. Yeah I mean listen it's it's a situation where I said both sides are Kinda dug in and entrenched and we'll see plays out. I WANNA see GPO cliche who blinks first got to blink that's what he's saying. He's saying that Coughlin doesn't blink confident that none of the three or blinkers the the only one in the NFL who doesn't Blink less is Jerry Jones because that's his face at this point. He can't do anything with that. Can you explain to us at what's going on. with Aaron Rodgers not throwing the ball downfield well. They've they've a new coaching staff and I think the identity of team is changing so which is odd when you've got a quarterback is gifted and talented. His Raja's people just used to shing in throw for three hundred yards regularly when I don't think he's doing for more than two hundred forty nine and a game this year. Whatever it is is is numbers have been very modest very UN Aaron Rodgers like the you know what you're three knows. What does it matter hasn't been behind bucks so he's not throwing buck? That's part of it as well now. If they fall behind tonight and Rogers others have to pile up passing do that but they've been a situation where they want to run the football. They have been able to run the football. They've had the lead so they haven't even had to throw the football. It's all worked out exactly how the coaching staff and Watt and so rodgers become you know. I guess they glorify game manager. The first three Games Abe would always be that way but it has been so far Melvin Gordon. He cost himself about two million dollars. Is that a lesson for everybody. Don't leap with Look Bowen. When you're a running back. Well listen. He made a decision to begin. He could've taken an offer from the chargers for ten million dollars a year but he he's used himself in that top tier category category and here's a question and we're just wondering out loud. I'm a big Fan. He's a great running back. Put Noting Gordon in in Dallas Cowboy offense. Would he have similar numbers to G. I think so I think he's but I felt pretty alone with that. Opinion and I've I've been wrong. I said that The chargers should pay him and clearly they didn't have to save the way football players usually do damn both can be right right like the chargers augurs didn't have to have him but it can be that building. Gordon is better than perhaps we stink and if he were in that cowboy off and she might have number similar but he's playing Glenn buying up it's one that hasn't been great over the years and he's still put up great numbers and he has not been indispensable and replaceable the chargers and they've proven because the network has done a great job boards absence so they all can be right all these factors. I think the bottom line conditions that Nolan Gordon wanted the big contracts like he didn't get it. They made an offer. He thought he was worth more hell of a chance to go see if he can get the kind of money that he wanted to stop running back money thirteen plus million dollars dollars a year in that range in the free market 'cause. I don't think the charges are going to pay him. When they've gotTa Pay Uh Joey Bosa Hunter Henry Philip rivers they've got a lot of free to be and when Jean What Austin Act can do we see Justin Jackson do and if they let us done a great the job of cultivating and growing running back over time those address and other Guy Tudo mixed into that rotation and they'll okay without building Gordon. They're not as good a team without they've what they can play winning football without Jason Garrett extension or hot seats. I loved it. I we fired hires these guys. We want to send radio. That's the mode of the moment. Let's I mean come on. You're so right right like this. We have we want some fire love and now or should we stay I. It's so funny to me Adam Adam listen okay. I'm not joking three weeks ago. Stu Gods handed me a piece of paper that said Jason Garrett hotseat question mark he he wanted to ask that question of somebody. I didn't read it. I took it and immediately threw it in the trash somebody that was watching said. What was the question that Dan threw in the trash and three weeks later. Stu Gods writes me again contract extension for Jason Garrett three weeks after saying hot seat for Jason Garrett. If if you have a problem with everyone's flip-flopping on this know that it's only stugatz doing it because all of his opinion should be thrown in the trash decided. I'm aw to manage his daily life last guy and that's a problem schefter ager. EMOJI ask you whenever he reports something. It's called the WOGE bomb. We need something for when you break some good. NFL News now we have a couple of nominees we of course there's atom bomb and then there's ars atomic bomb. I love that one Scud Schefter Scud Atom. Atom bomb is pretty good. Have you gotten any that you like are are you willing to take suggestions from the audience could get this name off the ground. Listen I with whatever nickname that you want to give me. I am I that there's an honor to be mentioned about like. Whoa what was bombs like okay then commits bombs dropped over by atom bomb same company they they it just developed the bomb to put into their tweets and their instagram post road may or whatever but you're on a hot streak Schefter Schefter. You're feeling pretty good about this. Is this has been a pretty good run for you on breaking news right. You haven't had a lot better than this one Dan. I just know that I could get it on a story today. Only as good as your last atom bomb when you're typing out when you're typing out a tweet of something that's really time. I pressed for time. Do you ever worry that you're gonNA make a TYPO. Well let me say this that my my iphone autocorrect all the time. I got Monday night. I'm typing out oh the bears I just found out not going to it's beginning bears or deactivating. Bobby Massey and I post it and so when I get a texture somebody go ahead you know his name's Bobby Bobby Mattie hike yeah. I know that Kaffee tweeted bobby nutty. I B Yeah I did well autocorrect like change into Mattie. You know one of my daughters friends names so it's the real nightmare being new schefter really as thank you for being with us. We appreciate it but we always appreciate your time. If you want to spend more more time with Adam schefter download and listen to the Adam Schefter podcast wherever it is that you get your podcast thank you for taking the time Sir guys Bush's talking football. If you take care thanks now with the capital one saver card you are in four percent back on dining and entertainment that means four percent on milkshakes with the kids and four percent on music with your pals. You'll also two percent cashback at grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases now when you go out you cash in capital one. What's in your Wallet Terms Apply Donlevatar Talk. Did you ever have a crush on a cartoon character. Can I go this question but I did Jessica Rabbit who framed Roger Rabbit. Yes yes I was married to Roger added. Even though he was a bunny and she was a humanoid they were both cartoons Stugatz. I had a crush on betty rebel. Wow what's what's good surprise nomination soon from. God's dirty dirty and her nine year old. PC's with our show with STU GODS ON ESPN radio. If you missed any of our interviews go check him out on demand and the Dan Le Batard podcast brought to you by the capital one venture card or an unlimited double miles was on every purchase everyday capital one. What's in your Wallet Dan. It's time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless so Chris. Cody thinks that he's got a trap game lock of the week. I think that I wanNA start a Chris cody gambling segment where he gives you one. One of those lead pipe locks that allow you to you know do wonderful things. You want to know so far with your money entertainment porpoises. Only he told you that the dolphins told you bet it was really obscure. He went dolphins first half. He told you to bet this last week because the cowboys would be looking ahead but only for a half right and it's exactly how it happened and then the second half the whole thing changes in the dog and then Dallas easily covered makes them a gambling expert my book that's right one. Oh so what is today's trap game lock of the week according to Chris cody well. I had a few options. There was a few games this week that I felt could be potential. Trap Games the colts what's and the chiefs play next Sunday night so both of those games were on my radar but I am not going with those games because I don't WanNa bet against the chiefs and the colts are sneaky good. It's terrifying terrifying to bet against the chiefs and put it on the on the poll. Antonio is terrifying. The Bet against the lions are two hour and one or getting a touchdown at home and no one mm-hmm wants to take the lion's right the one. I'm going with the rams play next Thursday night against Seattle Division game Thursday night Prime Primetime game so that's a look ahead game this week. The Rams are at home against Tampa. You're you're going to dare to Bet Tampa against against the rams because you'd think the rams looking ahead to a primetime game and what's to fear and Jameis Winston in the Tampa Bay bucks cutting the entire game or just a hat. That's the thing this week. I'm going the full game wow because I could see the rams getting out early but I with Mike Evans Jameis Winston that defense is I think a little better. They have a dude. Barrett who who has like eight sacks already this season his NFL yeah so this defense with I'm Bruce Arians running the offense bowls running the defense. This is sneaky team and I think I think they will cover the CAESARS. Has it at nine and a half when I did this last night. It might have moved but I added that plus nine and a half so I think I'm going full game. I'm not doing the first half this if you want to bet with me for the full game bucks plus nine and a half at rams I think I'm onto Chris's trap game of the week. All he does is look for WHO's playing a look. Look ahead game and just takes that yeah. Here's the thing though Dave wants that we made great fun of Dave wants that because he went around the Dolphin Locker Room and actually hung lobster traps. I'm assuming he did that himself because he was talking talking about the dolphins having a trap game. That's mcvay should be doing this week. Mobster Schrafft's is what you want all over the place. There is some betting knowledge for where you from Chris Cody I'm curious to God's speaking of football. Are you guys here for the idea. We talked so much about money being in sports Darren rebel is a business reporter who has gotten a following because he was one of the first to sort of satiate the consumers merge need to learn about the money in sports and I would ask you even though I don't. I know there's no chance of it happening. How much more fun do you think it would be. If a couple of teams a week in football had to give refunds for what it is that they did like some percentage of refund the fans would get because they had to go to that Washington Chicago game and watch case keenum do that and like some percentage of discount account where you get a refund dolphins fan so much money it's correct and they would say that it would certainly prevent or discourage tanking if if you you had that situation last week you had giants at bucks. You think that's going to be a bad wants to do those. Fans have to pay extra because they got a really good game. That was a good finish yeah no but of course when the game is over. You don't have to give anybody a refund. It was a good game and it was the showcase of Daniel Jones. There should be put that on the poll Antonio. Should there be one. NFL fell team a week that has to give its fans a partial refund. It doesn't have to be a total re but they were Chris is saying is if you have a really good game going got in your stadium and you're at the game after the third quarter. You have to pay a premium to watch the fourth quarter. I go both ways with this refined balance it out attach balancing. We don't we don't what are you guys talking about. My my examples not ridiculous enough. You Guys WanNa make it. Something thing that is more aligned. That is perfect geometrically. No my example stupid. None of us should have agreed with me. It's going to be ridiculous. Be Ridiculous both ways That's all they're saying. I mean did your mother under your breath. Billy we have to agree with you are perpetual instigator who doesn't agree with anybody around here about anything. You're flirting with Tim and Bob Ryan Skirt you mad at me about I can't even keep track anymore. So many people get mad at me for what I don't even get it united streaming. Dan Thaw Aw created here's the thing because I was you know I like out of the box ideas you know me and this is an out of the box idea by you so you're kind of and billy land right now. Here's the thing I'm kind of worried that now these people these teams are not going to be competitive. They're just going to be playing to not give refunds. So are you ever going to get better. Are you just playing for anti refunds. You do this with even fear. You fear that some team is going to get out of here. Just go get out of here. Yes go go sit in the penalty bats in in the box idea. Johnny got a tweet golf set when he was three and from that day on he was hooked all he wanted to do was Gulf Gulf Gulf. He'd be on the links before school after schools all he ever wanted was to go pro and then one day when he was holding his grandson and thinking about his twelve. L. Handicap Johnny realized it just might not happen for him but you know what did happen for him east switch to Geico and saved a bunch of money on car insurance so that was good and so was hanging out with his grandson Donlevatar Ladimir Gary Seventh in war in Nationals Expos history still got. Let's see how many expos are ahead of him. Oh Easy Gary corridors for him. Raines Rock Andre Dawson auk Steve Rogers Jr Tim Wallich all Iq Wall and then Ryan Zimmerman and then Zim. VC's Donlevatar show with as to God's on Espn Radio Espn Radio is presented by Progressive Insurance guests on the Dan Lebatardshow appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. Rex Ryan called Baker Mayfield quote overrated overrated as hell earlier this week. Mayfield has responded by saying this totally ever know wise words Freddie Kitchens if you don't wear orange and Brown you don't matter correct. Ryan doesn't have any colors right now for reason so it's okay we did it. Go Right. Thank you despite right what is Tonia Brad's weeded last week agent drew. Rosenhaus said he believes that Brab wants to continue is career in the NFL and finally a Tennessee woman who rescued a kitten she spotted running across the road brought the feline into her car and took it home before discovering the greed. You're actually was a baby. Bob Gatt Oh man for all the way headlines and information tune into sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day. We do like baseball around here. We like it less than we I used to but this time of year is a great deal of fun and yesterday we were having a conversation about sort of the baked into the bread boredom madam that has happened with baseball evolution. The shifts all or nothing home runs that what has happened has for the first time that I can remember this. It's the first time I can remember it because it happens all the time stu gods and soccer for example where the soccer zealots will get mad at you for not liking the sport because as you say it's boring and they will come back at you with some version of you. Don't understand it. You don't appreciate the beautiful game. You say it's boring. This is on you. You just don't understand understand and the rhetoric can be no. I understand Broccoli. I just don't like the way it tastes right can be that but the first time I'm hearing baseball people say say we got to do something about this and the New York Times people love Baseball Zoo Shami Tim Kirch and they love that game and they're telling telling you in two thousand and nineteen. It's not it's pace of play as a problem is a problem but it's not the pitchers taking too much time. It's the the lack of balls in in play. That aren't home runs. The New York Times has an article on the eve here of the postseason as it's about to start they're talking about pace. Jason Play does work in baseball for one select group of people niggers that thank scarves and sweaters and knitting has broken out all over baseball and that it's broken out that you will find niggers all over baseball sitting sitting there for four hours trying to multitask in the way that we used to do in the nineteen eighties before social media young people would be on their phone. Baseball people are knitting. That's the demo you WanNa go for niggers. I would put it on the poll. Antonio is baseball's demo. niggers knitting is one of those things things that people mock it but it seems really difficult like if you gave me two pieces of whatever those things are needles eh yard and then all of a sudden. It's a blanket. What the hell it does seem hard. Look have your here and we got any needles. We're the hell. Did we get yard. That's got annoyed. You're came from the cave that much stuff. You probably got needles on their Explain something to me. How in God's name is there the kind of size ball of yarn that you would find at a home depot if you needed a lot of red yarn under Billy's death billy's one of the few still go in the baseball games. That's what he brings. That's that's true and also we. We do a lot of investigations around here where we have boards where we set up or we have clues and stuff like that. Always knew yarn is very important important for that because it connects pieces of evidence evidence what's happening. God for two seconds guys still talking about me. You were gone for two minutes and we were talking about baseball's new demo according to the New York Times. There's a big article article about it is knitted sweaters and scarves and mittens and all of a sudden Chris was talking about how hard it is to knit and Antonio reached into the Hovel at is hoarding the Hoarding Nest Under Your Desk and somehow found enough yarn for us to start a yarn empire to sell it to everybody everybody who needs yarn and I was curious why you a extensively a young person has that much yarn under your desk risk well. Dan As you know winters right around the corner and my admittance have a hole in them so I need to patch up my midden so I got some red yarn which I also use sometimes for my like string theory bored when I'm doing investigations but it's mainly for men's hats sweaters. We've got an empty are yarn file. There is only one thing in it. It is pad. I'd say Jack the host of wheel of Fortune on our show lambasting Vanna white in a huge national controversy. This was on our show We never knew before this moment that pat say Jack had an unreasonable jealousy and hatred for Vanna White. We always thought they got along. She symbolizes the show in a way that I don't don't oddly enough even though she has a little less during the show but still a lot I say the truth. There's been some chemistry issues and there's been some tension issues on the show before because you carry you're carrying the weight and she's getting the fame like that would create resentment in any clubhouse any sports club house then interview those people the Rule Lien letter and they light up. Damn I feel better. We're we're packed her in the overhead and the plane. I had a talk. Show your business shells. You don't WanNA slightly second fiddle to a yard sales. I'm sure I'm pretty sure she wears like what am I naked catching that closes out the yard file. I don't think we have anything else in it. I just ignored billy for those of you wondering there's no way that's true that he knits mittens like he just decided to do that to bother me because he never likes to bother them. Do you think Major League Baseball Parks Knitting stands now where you you can't bring it in anymore. You have to buy it at the ballpark. Have they have phone charging charging stations so we just have right next to that knitting stage. I love that I also like a cemetery put outside the fence for all of those people want to get into the yarn learn that they could just expire after the game just walked straight to their death that whole demo that baseball's trying to capture straight to their graves. Yes just walk walk after the last act is to knit something beautiful and then just walk be closer to where it is. They're gonNa Bury you because baseball is lowering eighty year old think think about think about the idea in the social media age of somebody needing more stimuli at a sporting event and choosing knitting the fact act knitting while watching a baseball game sounds delightful is the problem. I don't think it sounds delight. It really does enhance the game. A little bit Donlevatar is there. Anyone surge refers to you by your full name. No no no nothing so. Can you tell the audience what your full name. Is You backup search and join US Stugatz. Is it your full name. Ten words surge Abul Lamu Saigon but that's not true. That's not my name okay. I'm sorry I made that so awkward for you hell of a day where I live with our show with his two guys on Espn Radio Dad. It's on take a look at who was the best performer of the week job borough is good toss four of his school record six touchdown passes to Jomar. Chase and threw for three hundred ninety eight yards Saturday leading LSU sixty six thirty eight rob over vanderbilt borough became both the first first Lsu quarterback to throw for three hundred and fifty yards or more in three straight games and it's three hundred fifty seven yards passing by halftime also was the most in school history that earns earns him the distinction of being the best performer of the week brought to you by at and T. reminding you that networks like college football should never be just okay. Billy late today will not be a success for us as a show unless one thing is accomplished which is that musburger sound gets cleared it. We cannot have a successful show today unless the sound of Brent musburger doing a an ad. You might not expect him to be doing. How confident are you that we're going to be able to get that sound cleared because getting sound cleared is a is quite the pain around here. I'm fairly confident that it will not get cleared counteroffer for you though with today be a successful show if I gave you a recap of season two's premiere of the mass singer Dan. The police say no no no. That's not what I wanted at all. You're not optimistic. What what can we do. Though how about this. Is it less funny. If we just take a transcript of the ad that he's doing and have someone else do it and then tell the audience to imagine it in Brent Musburger asperger's voice because Brent musburger actually did the ad is that away a creative work around like an artist reenactment in one of these terrible television shows. I think what we would have have to do in that situation. Look let's be real. Here's why I think this is not going to get cleared because it's a paid sponsorship for breast. Montebourg Brent Musburger show and that's not a sponsor of our show so we'd be giving giving away free advertising so what it's funny. I don't make the rules Dan. We can't advertise something else that we're making fun of because it's Brent musburger voice just on a manscaping commercial we could potentially were still waiting to hear back on that but I think that that may be the hurdle. We have to overcome. I thought it was a spoof. I thought that it was somebody impersonating. Impersonating Brent Musburger. You don't think Brent Musburger manscaping. I didn't accuse him of not manscaping. I don't know what his man scaping situation is. Although Brock Myer does who are we trying to get clearance from can we just ask Brent now. That's not how this is not how this works another production item are we reaching out to. Pat McAfee Kaffee is he doing the Thursday night game to see if he could drop another. show related reference into the broadcast. Is that something that we have in the works today so that people you can watch Thursday night football to see if there's an Easter egg from Pat McAfee the broadcaster for our show. He'd been in constant contact with them. He has a whole bunch of lists of stuff to potentially read He. It has not let us know yet specifically what he's going for tonight but he's done every time right wrecked. Keep your ears open. Though okay all right also we've got a couple of stats of the day okay. We've got the stat of the day that more general about all of sports and we've got a damning indictment of the dolphins stat of the day that we're going to try and do daily until they do something other than stink stat of the day started the day in easiest out of the day start of the day startled today in easiest out of the today start up the day start of the day in this style of a startup the day start of the day start of the de. Hey Eh courtesy of Mike Golic at ESPN golic all like we'll get to him in a second billy's outraged if you ignored Patrick Mahomes is second half stats this season's pass. TD leaders would go DAK Prescott nine Mo- homes eight in the first half Matt Ryan Eight seven hour tied for taught some homes pretty good. You could take out what is Billy mad about. What is bill because he doesn't think Mike Golic came up with that stat well. That's that's sort of the case look I. I'm not GonNa be Smerch Mike Golic but I doubt that he was crunching numbers and looking that up. I feel like someone gave him. My problem is more and we've discussed this before before the fact that we're giving credit to everybody for public information on stats that was decent but Dan week too. I saw this out there in social media. ESPN credited Trey Wingo with this stat. The Patriots have outscored their opponents seventy six to three in the first two games. That is not a stat. The trip came up with those are just facts the score for two weeks and he said it and then they're like don't forget because you know the same way clearance. Someone's like Predator. We Go Trey Wingo Center. I wanted to give credit that is not a trey wingo staff well. Let's try. Let's try to give Antonio. Tonio was a stat. Let's let's make. ESPN Credit Antonio with Ashok Chris swaggering around here earlier because he created some of his own imaging imaging for our new segment here. The Dolphin daily stinks that of the day. The dolphins are bad. They make St really sad so we refund. Make US laugh. That's right. They're bad that is loving you. One thing on earth worse than the dolphins very apropos. Dan By the way started the day credit me in the second half this season the Miami dolphins have been outscored sixty eight to nothing. Wait a minute. You're telling me dolphins have the same success in the second half as Mahomes in Golic stat when he's not playing yes absolutely so some homes I take away. All of the stats the homes as in the second half he has as much production in terms of points as adults and they have something in common. Yes there you go the only thing that they have in common. The dolphins have have been outscored in terms of touchdowns this season eighteen to one. They're doing tanking better than anyone has ever done. tanking in football look. Paul Chris Cody US doing imaging better than anyone's ever done. It's as bad as anything I've ever heard this media wait a minute because the first sound is a car crash engines origins. Let's hear it again. The dolphins are bad. They make zero sad so we refund stats to make us laugh. Good so good all right. Put It on the pull Antonio at Lebatardshow Chris's foray into a production good or bad that you really rhyme said with that.

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Baker vs Rex spat | Jalen Ramsey drama | Money Maker picks for week 4

The Stinkin' Truth with Mark Schlereth

24:38 min | 1 year ago

Baker vs Rex spat | Jalen Ramsey drama | Money Maker picks for week 4

"It's the stink in truth podcast with March Laura. Hey welcome into distinct drew podcast. mark slurred alongside. Mike Evan Scott hub producing the show Mike how Warrior Buddy I'm good. I'm good feeling good. I'm over my cold. The largest world's largest head cold yeah. You were bad they are you took the day off. I know you took the day off of our radio. Show yesterday and I was really concerned and then I see videos of you playing in a coed softball off ball last night so you healed up quickly if I already planned on coming into work the next day by my tally then and that means my nighttimes mine right okay right so you just you just slept through the show. Get yourself a refresh right. Maybe got some ECHINACEA. Oh my goodness zinc zinc vitamin C. D. Oh yeah rulers room all the one letter vitamins now a maybe maybe you put some a in there a a yeah e. Yeah I oh you yeah the vowels valve vitamin. That's right good for you. That's grab glad you're feeling bad ass yeah so I missed. I do miss a little bit how Jim Romi you sound. Why you were yeah why you were sick. You had a Lotta Jim Rome. I did was tremendous nominal nominal regular yeah that was great yeah all right. Well good well. Let's Let's get into some stuff here and where to start where to start. Where where what side are you on with the Baker. Mayfield Rex Ryan spat so for those those who don't know Rex Ryan came out and said that he thinks Baker Mayfield is overrated that he's a one read quarterback he takes off and tries to run and he's a slowest guy out out there on the field and to which Baker responded by saying. Hey I'm only concerned with WHO's wearing the brown and orange colors and rex doesn't have any colors these days and obvious shot at the fact that he's no longer a coach so yawn team Baker team rex understanding that Baker has the list says the list but Baker as last. I've already been on Baker's list. I've been on Baker's list a few times and let me just say this this. I don't care I'm with I'm with Rex Ryan. I mean I think I think the whole thing stems from the fact that you spent it an entire offseason talking about right how good your team is how much the hype is real. How many players you've involved on your football all team. You've made every commercial every time I turn. NFL Game on when I'm at home like watching Sunday night or when I'm watching Monday night football ever the commercials have bigger Mayfield commercial right so I look at that like you like you brought this on yourself. You had all this hype. You went out and Got Odell Beckham junior are you. Have you know you've got more town than any team in football on paper. Everybody talks about your the Super Bowl Darlings. Everybody's hyping you and you're telling us all the hype. Hype is real and now you're playing the victim. Once all of a sudden you don't win and then just watch us. Now you know like watch what we've got going on now and I'm putting you on my list rex riot and how much is shutting up and actually playing football playing good football. Would you do all those things in the off season. Mike right wrong or indifferent like hey man. You still worked out. Let's say you didn't miss a workout. Let's say everything. Let's say all that like like. Let's say you play paid impeccable attention to what you need to pay attention to the bottom line. is you open a door for people to criticize you win. You do all those things in the off season then and then you come back and your offense doesn't perform. I mean I'm sorry you've increased from a talent perspective. Now you know the organization did probably dump its best offensive lineman in Zeitler right the giants so we don't need. We don't need that. You know why because we're hype Heike Right where I mean. We got Odell Beckham Junior. You don't need a block. People Odell can catch it with one hand. Just watch him in pre-game so I told you on the show and I'm rooting for the browns the loose just because of what has gone on this off season because of of the level of snarky penis because of the way they you know have got a get on the high chain or left behind because we're going straight to the Super Bowl ooh blue good. I'm glad they're losing and the Plane Baltimore. This wigan hope they get their ass kicked. What about what wreck said actually about the way that Baker's. There's playing right now that that he is a one read quarterback that he's not seeing the field that will not reading defenses is there is is there validity to all that well again not that. I have broken down every game like I would have been calling his game so I think there is some validity to that. Sometimes I think it's you know and this is a problem. I said like we talked in the off. Season and one of the issues I said is when things aren't going. Well and you have to force it to certain guys and you. Don't you know that if you don't get those guys involved there could be a problem like this is the problem with having one of these diva type receivers. Those guys need to be fed and if they don't get fed then all the sudden all hell's going. GonNa break loose right so there's an issue and do you focus on a single read because you're trying to get that guy the football as much as you can get him the football. I tell you the other thing that I was impressed with. I call the game last year when Baker was actually playing really good football and he and he really did his rookie year. He played good football. One of the things that kind of set him apart was I thought that he did a phenomenal job of manipulating elating and climbing within the pocket and delivering shots Downfield from within the pocket you get rid of one year best offensive Lineman who happens to solidify a little frothy pocket and all of a sudden you don't have the ability to step up Baker Mayfield eight. He's not GonNa Outrun anybody. Hell cuyler Murray in Arizona gets the the edging gets run down by Defensive Lineman like and Kyle American flat run so there's an issue you have to have the ability in this league. Uh with the pass rushers that are on both edges to be able to climb pockets to get in the middle of that war. Your protection is afforded to you to get away from that outside rush and then deliver the ball and if you're not comfortable doing that because you've gotten rid of one of your best offensive lineman. That's an issue but again. That's the decision decision. They made as a franchise right. We're over hyped. We're going to get another battalion and you know watch US run and I think it's a problem I so whereas with a Cleveland you've got kind of the the team wide dysfunction or or hype or dealing with you know all kinds of I don't WanNa be thinking about when it comes to try and win. Football Games then Jacksonville who is dealing with Jalen Ramsey and Ramsey played last week part of a win but called in sick for Monday and now apparently he's off with the birth of his child and there's no timetable as to win he's going to return is Jacksonville. Maybe a better team without Jalen Ramsey just because everybody there understands stands you know we WANNA be year. We're in this together and you remove the guy that that doesn't want to be there talented as he may be right he is. He's a really talented players showed up to camp brinks truck saying basically I'm going to get paid. You know like because that's how you show up to camp now. You just don't go show up and you know and do your job anymore. You've got to show up and be a complete total douchebag because that's just you know. I guess that's the world we live in so good for you yup all ultimately. Mike like you I love Jesus cuss a little bit occasionally. I apologize for that. I'll work on it. here's the deal I'm praying for Jalen Ramsey because because it's the flu this incredible back injuries add now. It's the birth of a child I hope the baby doesn't have the flu with a bad back I would would like. I don't know what's going on there but come on Gimme a break like really dude you just don't want to be and why don't you just come out and say. I don't want to be here because you're not paying me enough money but at some point like you're only going to be the highest paid guy for a time until the next guy usurps you right so I mean is Jalen. Ramsey always going to be disgruntled. Is He. Always going to be unhappy. Situation like is it always. GonNa be a problem. At what point are you satisfied. Only when your eyes aspect guy so certainly doesn't feel as though Jalen Ramsey will ever play for the Jacksonville Jaguars again. There is part of me. That really hopes maybe just a bad person but there's part of me. That really hopes just go okay. We'll call your bluff listen. Don't don't show up. We don't give a shit. We'll pay you but you ain't plan anywhere else yeah but if you're Jacksonville you've you've got. You've got value here. You've got a player with value in your your only. Are you only seen the asking price for him down. The more that you you play that kind of hard line stance well. I mean I don't think you're gonNA see the value because he still one of the best players at his position in the League league so I think it's values drop Mike. I don't I don't think like not playing isn't going to hurt his value because he's still really good but I mean you can recoup like you can just find them for not being around and you can recruits recoup some of your money and you can keep Kim you. You still have his rights. You can keep them for the next couple of years and not let them play see. I'm kind of surprised that you're taking this dance dance with Ramsey because you've always been the ex player in you always comes through in situations at least similar to this with the idea that hey these players. They have a short short shelf life. They gotta go out. They gotta make what they can and if they've outperformed the contract they should get paid. I mean look poor. Melvin Gordon Right Man Melvin Gordon really showed the charges. Didn't he ends his sixty. Four Day. Hold Out limps back to the chargers and now he does he not get a raise. He's on the hook for like one point. Two million dollars is that the charges will probably make him pay up yeah and they have a history of doing that. So you're a hundred percent right. I am for the player getting paid eight at all times and I am all for hold outs if that organization won't pay that player his worth and he's outperformed his contract but but again I am for the player doing what's right by his team. He came in and agreed to work for that amount of money he came in and he played the first what three games of the season like he did that so basically you've agreed to do that and and now now you're walking now. You're upset with the team now. You don't like Doug marrone like sitting out this whole time from the start. I'd be all for it good for you. Stand your ground dig your heels in but he came in and played and now he's saying. I don't like this team anymore and I forget you guys that I've I've gone out there and and played with and forget you guys that are trying to turn this season around. I don't WanNa be here or anymore. I'm gone like I've always said this. It's not Doug marrone steam. You know it. It's it's not shot cons team. It's not you know who Tom Coughlin team. It's the players team. Nobody nobody is paying a ticket to see. Sean card sit around his ass off. You know they're not say his name right yeah yeah. Nobody's in Novi you said sit around his ass off correctly no you that's what they do. Nobody's paying to watch Doug marrone stand around his ass off okay. Nobody's paying to watch. Tom Coughlin sit around his ass. I'll give you a high marks for consistency right. Nobody like there's nobody going man. I'm going to AH going to the giants game. I sure hope they flash up to. Tom Coughlin's perch so I can watch him. Sit there like they go to watch players play. I've always said this to the guys that I play with. This is our team. Not One coach is GonNa. Make a tackle now. One coach is GonNa late on the line physically like the players are going to not one coach is GonNa throw a block or or throw pass or catch a pass. Not One coach going to put themselves into harm's way. We do that and the people pay to come watch us do that. That's what people pay for so it is our eighteen and what you've done said hey man. I'm committed to our team. Even though I don't like my contract and I'll come in and play three games until somebody right Ed who it's my feelings on the side wine and then I'm going to go home and complain of a bad back and complain of the flu do because I don't WanNa play for you anymore. I mean what a I'm sorry. Sorry like. You can have that guy that guy's another Adam done with done with him. I'm not done okay. I'll before we get to our moneymaker picks a couple of games. I want to get your thoughts on okay for this weekend. Some intriguing match-ups you in the last two weeks. You've called the bears and Minnesota so very curious to get your take on love these NFC north matchups Chicago and Minnesota. Yeah that's well to outstanding to stellar stellar defenses so I think it comes down to this like which offense do you think will shit down. Its leg less. Ah Right not see that one coming. That's good so I will say the kirk cousins and the Minnesota Vikings have less likelihood likelihood to shut down their leg like you know like it sometimes. When you try to squeeze one you know and sometimes like sometimes you like. Let's say you had a coal right and you try to squeeze one out any squeeze one out and it's a little liquid and you stop it right off the bat and then you run to the bathroom for courtesy wipe right that will be the Minnesota Vikings often the Chicago bears office will try to squeeze one out and it's comes although it hits hits cloth right like that there's no Kersey wipe. That's when you have to throw your underpants. Their offense will have to throw the underpants away. Minnesota's does is going to be able to catch it between the cheeks and just get a courtesy wipe. Does that make sense. Oh yes perfect sense yeah Larry Chris honestly if you're honest and you're listening to this podcast you all been of course you've all been there. Horse Shit the couch. No I should the couch. Ouch wants ouch. Mine wife was not happy was through eight underpants. What the Hell tell the story so you're on the couch. Oh I'm sick of the dog and I got to travel the ESPN and I just don't feel I mean I'm terrible right and I got like I'm just on and we had this these. It was actually a chair kind of you know one of these big COO COO COO COO cushy not Kooky cushy kind of almost catcher's Mitt Tie. I cherish right and it's yellow and I don't feel good at all like I have just been sick for three days and you know I tried to far and I mean through the cheeks through the underpants through the jeans and left the streak on the chair like it was one of the low points in my life. I I had to run upstairs. You know throw them. Underpants away. Put my jeans in the wash. Rinse them out of this. I just got in the shower with minor pants and jeans on on just turn. It was like ditoto depression right. This is what my life is just like such a loser so anyhow then I get myself cleaned up. Ah Leaves in the gutter you know water much toilet paper. Put My ass crack. Li I call that leaves get new underpants pants in new genes that are gonNA walk down and my wife is just looking at me like with the cushion. She's like you're going to clean this. I'm like your life as miserable the world's worst human yeah shit the couch so that's that's my take on it. That's my take on bears. It does obscure stuff always a great summary of all the things we talked about in this podcast. Is that going to be included in it yeah yeah. I don't know why wouldn't know why it a one other match up New England and Buffalo. This is one that they're so excited about in Buffalo. The bills are three and the Patriots are three no here come the Patriots to town arch arch nemesis. Tom Brady. I think is like I don't. I don't like to twenty twenty one and two all time against some. Is he number against the against the bills. So is this the game. We're the bills show that they're for real what better chance to do it. No no come on I any. Hey ending their physical football team running. Their defense is really good all those things by the way the Patriots are one of the best defense in football right now. Their defense is not giving up a touchdown yet their incredible. They're absolutely they are absolutely incredible. So with that set well how they didn't they give it. Fourteen eighteen points last week defensive both scores by the jets defense. You're kidding me. Brady didn't throw a pick six. No no no relax relax. Relax really worried there speaking it being a soil myself. I saw myself right there that poor fox couch there nearly. I'm telling you what I was like. What no Brady tells me. It's not so wait a minute. Let me see yeah he he was marvelous through fix stem which leads to weight which they go outside of quarterback right. Kessler Yeah Cody Kessler like a stem. You're on notice yeah. I love it. That's one thing I love about like I love. I love that about them because they will like they will let you know exactly where what they think so given that stands out real quick Dallas at New Orleans boy. The cowboys look good yeah reinforcing. I went out there before the season. We gave our super bowl picks. I said cowboys and chiefs in the Super Bowl Neo man. I wish I had thought about the cowboys. Dave look good. The Saints Really surprised with how good they look last week. Ah playing first time without drew brees do they hold serve at home with the cowboys coming into like that's. GonNa be a tough one. I mean if you're brees was there there. I'd say certainly you the way they beat. Seattle and obviously a punt return for a touchdown right off the bat. That was a fumble return for a touchdown so you're up fourteen. I think it was fourteen. Nothing and your offense really hadn't done anything you know big up Salvin Camaro who's one of the best in the business I mean they really didn't push the ball down the field with teddy bridgewater it was like you know dump off. Teddy Bridgewater and Alvin Kamara for people miss on tackles and you know in in score touchdown so I you know so. They were really physical on defense. They dominate a lot of scrimmage on defense. is a camera Jordan on the defensive and I think he's one of the best players players in football. It probably doesn't get a lot of recognition complete defensive player they were impressive. I still think the cowboys are probably without breeze. are better football team but that should be that should be a great match up all right time for our moneymaker picks last week was our first week of doing picks and we both went to and won all right so I've got the lead you had Dallas covering the twenty one and a half against Miami and the rams covering the three against Cleveland Ballsy but you had the Patriots covering twenty two and a half over the jets freedom why they put city win without great so your two in one I went to one. I had andy covering the two barely over Atlanta. Pittsburgh gained six and a half against the forty niners and I lost Seattle New Orleans Seattle winning and covering the four so we both went to and won this week. I get to go first so you ready yeah. I'm ready all right. I'M GONNA take I'M GONNA take Dallas minus the two and a half against New Orleans okay I like Denver her to get off the mat this week minus three only given up a field goal at home gardener Minzhu and those those fifteen minutes tick tick tick ticking away so I'm going to Denver minus two three against Jacksonville and I'm GonNa Take Kansas City. I know that they're they're optimistic. Detroit you know first time in a while big game field for the lions but the cheeser just juggernaut right now. GimMe Kansas City is a six and a half half against Detroit. Wow Wow I mean that's. That's pretty amazing that is I think those are pretty decent. Overall picks my thank you mark. I appreciate that all right. I'm you know what I just don't believe that Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills are going to be able to produce enough offense against that noon Patriot three defense all take the Patriots giving up the seven okay so I like that I am going to go. I tell you and this this goes back to just my my overall level of of snark. I guess I'm the Ravens are are or minus seven at home to Cleveland. I am six and a half Vogel. You haven't so snap good. I'll give you the the ravens and and this is mostly just because I'm rooting I'm rooting against the browns so I'm GonNa go. I'll take I'll give the six and a half and I'll take doc I will that will take Baltimore and then ultimately as I'm flipping through here. let's see you're GonNa pick the shit the couch couch game. which was that show Minnesota? Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah yeah sorry I already forgot about my old lizard. This is how often I shit. My pants have already gone already like already yeah yeah you why not why not live on the edge a little bit. I am going to go with the Vikings in the shit. Shit the pants game. They're they're getting too right. Yes yes getting to yes. I'll take the two. I'll take to take the biking all right. We'll take the vikings with the leaves lives in the gutter. Yes the Vikings two points. The Vikings will let they just need a courtesy why to bears have to change their underpants. Take in the Vikings all right there you go all right for everybody involved the jukebox. Guess Mike Scott. Thank you guys. We'll talk to you later on the week.

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Brady's comments on race in sports, LeBron's 'I Promise' documentary, Rex Ryan/Geno Smith, Vernon Davis joins the show

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Brady's comments on race in sports, LeBron's 'I Promise' documentary, Rex Ryan/Geno Smith, Vernon Davis joins the show

"Speak for yourself from the crib presented by Hyundai Jason Whitlock Marcellus Walli coming from our CRIBS. Are we have a fantastic show a plan for you today? Tell you why. We'll get into it with bricks. Bucur ABOUT WHY? I got a little problem with Lebron James. I promise school documentary Art Vernon Dangerous. We're GONNA pull up his grip. The pro bowl super bowl champion tidy and now retired will pull up in his crib but we will start by going out to Chris Filming Ohio State. Great Detroit Lion. Great one of the greatest guys in Sports Fox sports football broadcaster force Happy to have Chris Christie going to help us talk about Tom Brady and his interview with Howard Stern. Some more as we've now had a chance to digest the entire two hours. There's a group of people that somehow have taken issue with Brady's comments about race and football and sports and how he saw his experience in New England and in football as it related to raise Taylor listen to what Brady told Howard Stern. Yesterday I never saw race. I think sports sports transcends race. It's transcends well that transcends all that I mean you again you get to know you appreciate the let let someone else may bring and you know whatever you know. Whatever they bring. I think when you're in a locker room of fifty guys you don't think about race you know you don't think about 'cause you're all the same at that point you know it. It doesn't matter WHO's married. Who's single. Who's got kids who doesn't have kids white black. You know whatever it is you just you figure out how to get along and I think that's sports teaches you about life and that way and it's very natural all right so some people over at SBA and wrote an editorial didn't sign their name to it. Criticizing Brady saying he's avoiding the race issue and saying that Colin Kaepernick and Eric near read and guys who took a knee. Obviously see race differently than Tom. Brady if you listen to Brady during the interview. That's not what he was addressing. He was in a deep conversation with Howard Stern about the culture in New England. His how he related to teammates. That are twenty years younger than him from different high schools at him from different economic backgrounds at him and then he made a broad philosophical point when Howard ask him about did he ever feel self conscious playing in the League that seventy five percent black where. He's the great white quarterback and Brady said that about race. I have absolutely zero problem with it. I think he's accurate particularly from his perspective. That's how he sees the sports world and that's how he sees his experience in the NFL and Football Marcellus. Do you have a problem with anything? Tom said here as it relates to race. No not at all. I thought Tom Brady spoke accurately. And aspirational about how it is to be a football player. Integration of race into sports He talked about all of our experiences where I was introduced to differ racist ethnicities and cultures because of who was in my locker room who was in that huddle and I took exception to this article that I tried to read who actually authored is article despite them having individual writers on so many articles this was written by the SBA nation staff. Nobody wanted to put their name to this as you mentioned earlier and I can see why they say Tom. Brady has no business commenting on this issue. The way he did because he's never been marginalized. Whoa and that's how you want to discredit him. All right well. Let's use that logic train and that same logic train may discredit one Colin Kaepernick. Who was in a situation where you had to foster parents? To adopted pairs. There were white and he's half white themselves now. If you WANNA bring race into the conversation disqualifier then. Colin Kaepernick is not speaking fully for me. And I don't want to go into that but they wanted to go into that and really put Tom Brady. Statements mapped on to that entire issue. Unfortunate SO TOM. Brady was speaking about what we saw. How did I come in contact with Chris? Filming my former teammate in Buffalo. Got Out probably wouldn't have crossed past certainly not had brotherly connection with unless it was for the game of football and. I think that's what Tom Brady was talking about there. We leave a lot of our hangups behind us when we walk into a lock room just the way it is. People don't understand that maybe they never been in there. Well it's good to see both of you in just to reflect on what Marcellus just said I never would have came in contact with Marcellus that Columbia believe me. I couldn't get into Columbia but I do know this. I can speak for my experience. Okay for me. I looked at my teammates as my brother. So that's just the way I saw. I didn't think of what their race was. At the time we ate together we slept together. We practiced together. We want together. We lost together. We cried together. We celebrated together. It was all about one unit for one common goal and that was to win now just because I feel that way in. Tom Feels that way. Marcellus and Jason feel that way. Does it mean that we do not acknowledge some of the challenges that some of our brothers had to get to the NFL. It doesn't mean that we're not aware of some of the racial issues that still exists in this country and it doesn't mean that we are not taking action or have taken action in our past to address those issues whether that be Jason Whitlock Marcellus Wiley. Tom Brady or Chris Spielman so for me. It's all about the awareness the acknowledgement in the action but inside that locker room. That was my family and anybody that knows me played with me. I hope they felt that way because I was more concerned about the dudes production Beth what I was concerned about. I think that when Tom Brady Talks. He's talking from one of the best football coach. Irs that we've ever seen in pro sports the New England patriots. I can certainly say that in my football experience and just talking to my friends. All of us were aware things on our sports teams. Were not perfect. Were there some guys? We didn't get along with along racial lines on the team. Were there some coaches and some experiences that we may have seen firsthand that we thought were hold on. What is the driving force behind that behavior from a coach an administrator whatever and we questioned it along racial lines no question sports teams are just like the rest of America where I will disagree with people like the SP nation article and some of the other people that are critical of Tom? Brady or football or sports. In general is sports does a better job of handling these issues than the rest of society. And that's not same sports or perfect but when you put a group of guys in a room from different backgrounds different economic situation's different races different religions. And you put that goal out there. Hey man you have to do your job in order for me to have success and I have to do my job in order for you to have success and for this team to have success a lot of the differences disappear and a lot of the decision making where people might give into their biases. A lot of that disappears and people do the right thing. I can certainly from just my mediocre college career at Ball State can point to some things that I thought. Were unfair along racial lines. I can say that about the rest of society. I could say that about things that went on in the classroom things that went on at any in any walk of life but can. I also say that sports and our team dealt with better than the rest of society. And that's what I think Tom. Brady's really getting at that. The great teams deal with those issues better than anybody else. That's where I think he's actually saying ourselves. Yeah and that's why I think what he said was aspirational as well as accurate. Because you don't have a better option out there in the world where you can show that the integration occurs and it happens naturally like a dozen locker room and it's a different dynamic. You GotTa think about it all there to do a job so no matter what. Your situation is what prioritizes all of us coming together is the fact that we have a job to do and it's the job that is going to be done. Only if you think of it as something greater than yourself you can't achieve it by yourself. You can't achieve a win you can't achieve a contract you can't achieve anything in that. Locker Room Solo. You need the help of others. So because it's the interdependent situation we actually learn to live and learn from each other because we need each other to bill. Whatever we're going to build in the real world half the time you don't even have that physical integration and if you do you don't have their realistic authentic interaction like you. Doing the locker room in the locker room is no holds. Barred from your Mama to your kids to your family to your background your religion to gender to your sexual preference. Everything's on full display in conversation and I'm not saying it's perfect but is better than alternative. Which is this real world where trust me is not as good and as real as their locker room is well. I think the other thing too. Marseils and Jason Inside of locker rooms. You know what we have usually amongst the players. We have great communication. I got a problem with Marcellus Wiley. I had no problem coming up. Marcellus Wiley and saying this is the problem. I'm not attacking you attacking the person in the great thing that locker rooms of top me as that we learn to talk to people and not over people so you direct problems head on and that's the beautiful thing about a locker room because of the fact that we have one common goal one common purpose and one common mission to accomplish something to gather and has opposed to everybody going off on her own separate agendas usually usually not all the but usually people will talk to each other. Tell me how I can help you. Then you tell me and I'll tell you what I can do or need from you to help me when you have that type of communication great things happen and you not only don't see as much race but what you do see. Is your brother or your teammate. Or somebody that you're willing to put it on the line for that's my experience. It always has been always will be at. That's the beauty of an locker room. WanNa move on. We've got to be a little quicker here. Don't have as much time Daniel. Jeremiah of the NFL that we're one of their draft experts former scout for the Baltimore. Ravens made a little news yesterday by suggesting that Tom Brady played for the Baltimore Ravens. Rather than the New England Patriots Brady would've won ten super bowls instead of six during his career. Jeremiah's contention is the ravens had more talent than the New England patriots. Marcellus is this a ridiculous claim? Yeah it's ridiculous we're trying to Frankenstein a situation to to take what was already beyond fantasy. Which is winning six super bowls. Take it to some insane place. Where you're all another roster you would have won ten and play enough. Thought experiment is sounds fun but in reality it doesn't land. One thing is thrown off from the Ravens equation or the Patriots equation. Everything is different case in point last year with the Ravens Lamar Jackson them going out there and winning fourteen games and they get into the playoffs and one small detail was different about that team the injury to mark Ingram and that changed the entire complexion of their team and everything worked. You Insert Tom Brady on the Ravens and say nothing else is going to change. You don't know the game of football or sports in general. I think that this is insane. This dude ICUs. I'm digging the Frankenstein reference man. That's beautiful when I when I look at this front from my perspective. The one thing I learned about when evaluating or during a game with Tom Brady. I'm never going to put limits on that guy because what he's doing it. Forty two is Barack so to say he would or would not win ten super bowls. I don't know I think it's very difficult because of the parody of the NFL and there's so many things that go into winning and losing the number one thing number. One factor in my opinion is that you have to be healthy as a team. What is the Locker Room? Dynamic within that team Marcellus hit it. Of course the importance of what a running game means to a quarterback than we can't forget although I have great respect and think he's a tremendous coach John Harbaugh. We can't take away what Bill Belichick has meant to the New England Patriots for all their super bowl run so I think Tom has done Barack list. I don't put anything past them. But the say ten. That's a little tough to get around. Yeah I think it's far fetched. I'M NOT GONNA go ridiculous. I think his comments are disrespectful to bill. Belichick I get where he's coming from Bo Ray Lewis and that defense at a great culture the second best culture I think during Brady's career was Baltimore with Ray Lewis and so I get where he's coming from a Chris before we get out of here you're one of the most charitable individuals in all of sports. You did great things. You've done great things for your wife and now you're doing great things for people with the corona virus and selling all of your memorabilia and donated corona virus. Where'd this come from well because I I believe that God has blessed me and I'm a person where my faith teaches me? A faith without deeds is a faith that is dead so we decided to do is take try to raise forty thousand dollars from selling by memorabilia and for each week for the next forty weeks. We're going to donate a partner friend of mine. Bruce Lee are GonNA donate a thousand dollars each and every week the four different people two hundred fifty dollars a piece and at the very least will be able to buy groceries for them. But I believe I've been called to do that. God has given me the ability. The means and the awareness the see where action is needed and we're action is needed. Action needs to be taken and this is something that is a true gift that I'm able to be able to help somebody and I've been so grateful and so blessed it's time to give back because my philosophy has always been in this life though matter what it is what you give or grow in which you keep you lose if you give compassionate if you give love to give understanding that grows and spreads and prospers if you keep all that stuff to yourself. I promise you it will dry and die guaranteed so keep giving away and guess what it comes back some way somehow gray message. Thanks for joining us. I'm Burnin Davis. We're going to go out to his crib. Superbowl champion twelve oaks. Avian Play with Damn Near. Everybody played in the league forever. I Burn Davis his crib. Speak for yourself presented by Hyundai more after this with all the uncertainty in the world feeling safe at home has never been more important. It's why I wanNA talk to you about simply safe home security. 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Jason Whitlock Marcellus Wiley our time to pull up at Burning Davis's crammed Burning Davis a pro bowl tidy a super bowl champion with the Denver Broncos just wrapped up things with the redskin. I hope Shawne Merriman I watch him because Marcellus I I'M GONNA call. Vernon the greatest player out of Maryland overshot. I hope he's not watching summer. But might put off. Vernon Oh let me ask this to everybody the quarantine have you watched anything? Great on Netflix. Serve you got a recommendation for you. Know what all Americans that was really good Show I joined it. I recommend anyone read lock it make. It was amazing actually a parallel story man cave from the hood and they'll lay it goes out to the outskirts. Go play ball man ever touched. My heart is amazing series right near but you're also a partner in Samsung Smart TV. Your Dad like myself raised three kids by yourself. How are you keeping your said any through this quarantine? Independent McMahon extremely tough. Just make sure the way the protocol the House basic feet away from people out and Just taking it one day at a time. That's all we can do at the moment because you we could be saved. We have to take this series because it is killing a lot of people and if we want to help each other we have to again follow. The protocol takes away stay home now also sold all season. You said you retired and the decision to retire right now. The kids have a huge impact on that. Are we gonNA see you retire? I'M GONNA take it one day to cap you know. I can't say I'm going to move back because I you know I haven't done so I wanted to stay tuned and gets work on the rest of my the rest of my career with next and for me. I feel like Television acting is been a lot of fun to me. I've been putting the work in the is dedicate myself to the crash and make you get better and actor so take it one day climbing. Continue to keep working. Where did this dream of being an actor? Come from what sparked that When I made at the University of Maryland are then when I went to thank you so I won't try to shelter in theater bar. And that's where I fell in love with the world of acting and I started to pursue it a little bit at a time for the cotton is when you play football. You have to put so much time in football and you can't really ensue acting career because it's just too announce delve into it and continue to just keep going and working on the crap read that you were inspired by Kobe Bryant. I would think you'd be inspired by the Rock Kobe. Why not the Rock and over long ago to build made a relationship with him? That was pretty cool and just learning this learning. And and now you talking about San Francisco earlier and we. We were talking about Colin Kaepernick as he came up in an interview with Tom. Brady just want to ask you like player to player when you were there especially during the good years with Colin Kaepernick on the field. Did you see this activism? Coming from him no no. I didn't see that you couldn't see it. I mean he was. Just what at that time? Kapernick was I mean. He was playing at the highest level possible then. He had two little declined to where he wasn't doing so well and again after that. That's all came about outdone about the Denver that year. Twenty fifty I left him got traded to when I was there. That's when all of these starting to come out and I totally didn't expect it. It was just something that Katie from left. Beal amount of nowhere. I WANNA bring up another conversation in sports moral. Cj mccollum made headlines saying he thinks that a third of the NBA players are living paycheck to paycheck. You just retired from the NFL. The you think that a third of the NFL players are living paycheck to paycheck. Been a history of that money back to like these avid get smarter to go a better job. Taking care that Phones putting the right people in healthcare so I can't really say Bach Billy that that That's happening but I I hope not afraid that everyone is doing really well taken care of their finances that they're continuing to evolve and Being proactive in the asset. Listen I know one guy. That's not living paycheck to paycheck. And that's your former teammate. Peyton manning he keeps turning down money to be a broadcaster. What do you think Peyton manning wants to? Do you know what I don't know. Maybe he wants to be an act. If people in Agra won't get caught me buddy again. I don't know what he wants to be but I figured by now he's just taking it easy and taking it slow but overtime really figured out that. Maybe it is broadcasting a vernal. We're going to wrap up the interview. One final question. We're having a little technical difficulty. I'm GONNA stay on Peyton. Manning peyton manning would he be a better head football coach or a better? Nfl executive better NFL Beckett. Boy that because when I was playing with Peyton when Denver He wa. He took over those needed. He was he knows exactly what was going on and it seemed that he was you know he was. John Elderly in a sense. And when you do that bad I mean you're you're above and beyond just being Involved with football on on on the field level you have to be innocent. The guy that's got what you coach and he won't give that expand trickle down to the locker room for the players the coaches and he could help somebody burn. Thank you so much for the time. Really enjoy coming out to your crib. Good luck with your acting career. Tell your brother. Good luck as well in his retirement. Are WE'RE GONNA keep it Movin here on. Speak for yourself from the career. We'RE GONNA go out to the bay area touch base with rhythm euchre and talk about Lebron James's latest project his documentary about his. I Promise School. Speak for yourself from the crib to speak for yourself from the crib presented by Hyundai. Jason woodlock Marcellus Wiley on this wonderful Thursday afternoon day before Friday. I let's go out to the bay area and Ric Bucher is GonNa join us from his crib. Rick welcome aboard. Let's move to Lebron James and his I promise school in the Akron area Lebron's received quite a bit of fanfare for opening the score and using part of his foundations money to help fund school along with the State of Ohio. Lebron has now put out a documentary over quimby a series of short eight ten minute short feature stories that they're calling a documentary about the I promise school. Let's take a look at it clip. Lebron posted on his instagram page. This week interest the past two weeks. It's the third hour we tell them. We're going through another homelessness. Europe said report shelter other nights hotel not yet last time. I for an hour and forty five minutes before I could get into. The scary part is ramming his head against the wall lakes. You know it's just the summer harm. Abroad obviously has millions of social media followers. I'm not a fan of this. I'm not a fan of documentary and I'm certainly not a fan of putting that kid out there in this way is the third or fourth grader. I think what Lebron has done and contributing money to the I promise school lending his name. I think all of that is great. I don't like putting these kids and their struggles on public display. When they're just third or fourth graders. I think it's too early for documentary. I'm disappointed by this and again I think what Lebron's trying to do here is great but I'm just not sure every kid needs to be a reality. Tv Show particularly when they're struggling in this manner. And I understand your sentiment in terms of exposing the kids who the whole goal of I promises to actually help these kids so where they can go from a mindset in the reality of surviving to thriving so why expose the kid when that kid can turn over a new leaf and actually do the things that we all desire them to do. So I respect what you said. The same time is is very difficult to have effective change without a brutal honest confrontation of the reality. The hardest pill for all of us to swallow in this world is reality and as we had Chris Filming on talking about the Locker Room. The fact that why that's such a special place because I'm in the real world and I've been in the locker room is that we get issues handled because we directly confront the issue at had and hearing about something is not as impactful as seeing and for those who criticize seeing it hard. Criticize you in wonder. How much are you really trying to change it? A lot of people can hear someone's plight loud people hurt my plight my story before but walk in my shoes or lease. Let me get you as close. Virtually as you can to walk in my shoes I think I hit you at a different place in your heart and I think that was the intention of this documentary. You both make great points. The distinction for me is our selous. You're an adult and we've seen the width and breadth of your story. So we saw the beginning and we saw and we've seen the end. This hits close to home for me because I had experience with my son where he may. He was probably the same ages. The kid in Lebron's instagram post and he made two free throws in middle school to win a game and I posted it. I had a video of it. I posted it on instagram and said how proud I was of him for a multitude of reasons and he came to me and he said Dad. I wish you would ask me before you posted that and what it made me realize that he knows every kid. This age is that kid. No no doubt does. Is that no matter. What you put out there Social media it can be a cruel vicious place and this was a positive for my son and far fewer people seeing it. I can't help but think about there are more than almost five million people who saw this kid in his worst moment and is it really worth putting it out there as a journalist. I often have to tell stories about people in their hardships and it can be difficult. And sometimes they don't necessarily love having that story out there but I've never done it with kid and that's the part that I just can't get past. That is a Gut Punch to me is to think about what that kid has to deal with because more than five million people out there saw him in this moment. And if there's a happy ending to this then maybe it's worthwhile but we don't know that yet yeah. I think like the greatest sports documentary that I can ever remember as Hoop Dreams and Hoop Dreams was filmed over. Like a ten year period of very long period and by the time it came out the kids that they were showing growing up were adults and they could you know deal with the ramifications. Fall out of this. I'm even now just even having this conversation thinking about. When I was a newspaper journalist and Kansas City we had a high school feeding running back that was you know everybody thought five star is going to be this huge deal and they wrote about him as a sixteen or seventeen year old and he was dating a grown woman at the time or twenty twenty one year old and I just thought it was. I wall we don't need. This is a kid this the teenager. We don't need to be putting his business out on the street in this fashion and when I looked at third or fourth grader and I just think about how kids being kids and how cruel they are and how they liked to tease. I just wouldn't want this kid captured in this way and I know again Lebron's intentions. I think we're positive. He put out a supportive message. A we're with you or something with the I. Polls trying to support the kid. I just don't think this is the way to do it. Kids need the opportunity to fail and have problems in private not shared with the world. Well that's very difficult to do. When you think about the condition that really is enabling this situation to even be a reality and that is not private but it's not getting properly discuss so I think the brand is actually coming from a place where he's inspire to share this story to his fire others as he was as fire to even open up the school in Cleveland. You think about it. Jalen rose hat is Academy in Detroit. And I remember that landing would me and I'm sure Orlando Will Lebron in terms of telling this story of these kids and it is fires you to do something for yourself and your condition and this condition. The class were kids from this part of Akron. The issue is is going to eat his own. So I understand the privacy of this kid that needs to be fully respected. But if you don't change the conditions are you gonNa do is more kids into that fire to be disposed of and I think that Lebron had to say the greater good is to show the plight of this condition and maybe did make him. Put this compromise position. Unfortunately but it's still a greater good. I I get that and I do agree. It's a noble cause. And sometimes the motivate people we have to put difficult scenes and pictures and images out there but again we're in a world today. Where did that kid sign up for that? I love that the school is trying to help him. I hope that it does. And it's terrific. That Lebron is providing that for that kid but does coming along with that being an advertisement for the ills of society. Just don't even if the kid or the kids parents consented to it. Sometimes we have to step back and say is this really in the best interests. And what's our ultimate motive and if it's helping the kid I'm not convinced that putting those putting that scene out there for him without any other positive scenes anything else is really what we're all after. Well I I would tend to think they probably put out some positive bill. I think it's too early for a documentary on the promise school. We won't know for five six maybe ten years if it's successful and I think we're gonNA shine a spotlight. Let's shine a spotlight on the parents. Because I guarantee you and again I don't know what's going on with this kid. I have no idea. But whatever's going on with kids generally as a reflection of what's going on with their parents and the adults in their life. Let's put the spotlight there. Maybe we can change some behavior. They're I stick around. Lavar Arrington go his crib and get back to the NFL. From the CRIB. Jason Woodlock Marcellus Wiley happy Thursday afternoon. Let's get up to Lavar ARRINGTON CRIB in Pasadena. All right and let's move to our big story of the day brought to you by KFC and they're twenty dollars fill ups you can order online a KFC dot com are rex. Ryan taking some more heat From players around the League and critics and Gino Smith in particular wreck said that he'd love to see bill trait. Try to win. All those Super Bowls in playoff games with Gino Smith and quarterback. Gino Smith took offense to this. That I ask you Marceau's now. This is the second time Rex's been in the news of late taking shots at current. Nfl players. You got a problem with Rex Ryan here throwing onto the bus not really a baby problem of Rex Ryan finding his lane. It seems like he's found his voice which is just to go out anybody that makes them look and sound better and he tried to do that. With Amari Cooper met. That wasn't a proper fight. That wasn't the right weight class so he slid down a couple of tears. Left those pro bowl wide receivers highly paid players our bit and found what he wanted. Which is Gino Smith? Who let's be real? Does it have much of an argument against REX. Ryan terms of his production. And how you played Gino. Don't take this to heart big dog because I don't either whenever someone says your name and how that rings in terms of your career you had a large part in how sounds so if someone says Marcellus Wiley and then I'm like what were you doing taking a shot at me and I'm like oh I gotta go back to the mirror and look how good was our was. Our great was Kinda good was I. And if you're Gino Smith. Look you're better than ninety nine percent of the people walking this planet even as a backup quarterback in the league making millions of dollars in relative world is forcing football. Geno SMITH IS A TARGET. Gina Smith will continue to be a target lists. He gets himself in the starting lineup and guests on that field and put some numbers. It's just reality now. I don't like that I have an issue with it. Because you're hurt. Your head. Coach is supposed to be Especially as a quarterback relationship is supposed to be that of a trusting relationship. Even if it's after the fact you know what if? What if Gino Smith started doing interviews and said man imagine trying to win with Rex Ryan as as your head coach? Good luck with that when you look at Gino Smith. He's a part of what it is that the picture that was painted in terms of production that success. But let's be real here. Gino Smith was much more coveted player coming prospect coming into the NFL then. Tom Brady what Gino Smith had an amazing college football career. One could sit there and say if Gino Smith had better development like A. Tom Brady did then. He would have been most likely in a conversation. Different than the one is now. Imagine if Tom Brady was drafted by Wrench Ryan and New York for the jets. Are we talking about Tom? Brady do we know who Tom Brady? Is Tom Brady a household name and the goat of all time playing football so I have an issue with it because was Goo good for the goose is good for the Gander? If you're going to sit there and take like unnecessary shots at somebody. That was your player. Then you had better be Accountable or Puerto Role that you play in his shortcomings as professional Lamar. I've got to ask this question. I'm just sorry you do know. We're in April. It's not Christmas. The Christmas Lights Champagne Room. You're doing this from what the Hell is one on the aaronson household. Christmas is down yet. A what what from a Natto came from Annapolis. So it's not ghetto. It's actually uppercrust society when you live near water. Generally lights like this hanging around different Windows that outlook overlook the water? So it's just China like creating a feeling of Wada. Now now we're in limited. Let me say this about we can let me say this about Rex Ryan I all the way back to myself. Wrexham's finding his voice Wrexham's finest voices a broadcaster. He's GonNa be outspoken. He wants to be the Charles Barkley of football. This is like last year at some point. People were criticizing Paul peers because he kept saying things that they thought were outlandish and I was like man at least. We're talking about Paul Peers. And at least he saying something. That's getting our attention and I don't think what Rex Ryan said here is so far fetched an outside beyond the. Pale is not a personal shot. Like his third comment about Amari Cooper this just wrecks to me and I applaud him because too many times. We'll see coach. Get ON TV. And they're always thinking about all. I want to get back into the NFL. I WANNA make sure I don't offend anybody. I don't want any player or any coach to have a problem with me to me. This is an indication. Rex is fully committed to being a broadcaster and I applaud that and his employer should applaud. That I don't think we have time to move to another topic so myself. You GotTa follow up on REX. Ryan added. Yeah Man Look. I'm a former player myself with Dan. We need to put our egos in check if so one K. Call you sorry because you were sorry. Like you've thrown more interceptions than touchdowns you through fifty seven. Percents percentage guess what that was a sorry numbers. It's okay big dog. You want him to go up there and talk glowingly about Gino Smith who will look Rex Ryan the same if he went up there and talk great about him so I think this is really just a checkup for anybody in any walk of life. We're we're talking about the act not the act door. We're talking about trump reduction. Can you please not wrap your identity into what you produce because who you are not exactly how you are and how you as a starting quarterback not that good but who you are. Gino Smith is amazing but damn everybody thinks they are the football. So if you don't say great things about me be- sorry wrong with Chu. I looked in the mirror. I had great years SAR years and I'm fine with both of you can't do that then. It Ain't no Rex Ryan breast on you. It's all funding. Good and made sense is if that was the sole reason as the why Rex Ryan made that statement. But if you look at the entirety statement. Rex was saying that top radio was more the reason why New England one versus the coach and Bill Belichick. So you're taking a bill belichick and you're taking a shot at Gino Smith and you're taking a shot at Gino Smith. Where the simple fact that you're trying to. Asana rate yourself from any culpability. Liabilities connected to Gino Smith spell your as an NFL quarterback. I don't like that if you're saying he's sorry and it's just a marriage. He was sorry that's fine but he was doing that to say. Hey if I had Tom Brady Abby Bill Belichick to know you. I'm glad you found your boys as a media personality. That's all right. Let that you can sit there and say that Tinos Him. It was sorry as a quarterback. Tom Brady is the man. I three shade all of that but take some responsibility over your part in it. You were sorry as a coach if Gino Smith was sorry as a player. And that's probably why you're finding your boys as a media personality right now sitting with me and my life behind me dawn. Tv bottom line lavar. That's my grandmother Mama. She had the same. Shared the same drapes as you. So filling in about that. I got a good Janice Radi on the Brian. James Yourself from the Crib Jason Whitlock Marcellus Wiley. It is almost Friday. I can taste it. Let's go out to uncle. Jimmy's crib very serious local face. You're wearing military garb. Where are you going with this? We're doing an approval rating on Lebron. James put out a documentary. The I promise documentary. I didn't like it. He showed little kid crying and whining. I don't think it's a good. Look your thoughts first of all. Let me say that I have no problem with what Lebron James Doing. Let me say that. I have no problem with the documentary. Okay caused the fact is the struggles real. Okay now. I do question the timing of the release of this documentary. Okay because right now man. It's not just kids this lockdown. But everybody's locked down in the house. Okay and the temperatures starting to rise in the house and I'm just GonNa be honest at this time right now. Man Ain't nobody got no time for crying little kid right now. Okay now if that hurts your feeling right now I'm sorry okay. I'm sorry to children. Raised these south past little kids right now but right now we ain't got no time for no crying asks little kid it's all over. The world is looking at kids in the face. Saying shut the hell up. I don't know what the Hell's going on no motor you. Jim Oh man almost an email. We see you next time. Friday Linda celebrate.

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First Round Recap

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First Round Recap

"Welcome to NFL live presented by EGO. The first round of the draft is in the books the bengals opted for Joe Borough with the top overall pick and then went to the dolphins at five pervert to the chargers. At sick we also saw fifteen players from the SEC. Taken on the first night and according to Elias that's the most first round pick from any conference an NFL draft history. This is an iconic night on the American sports calendar the first ever virtual NFL draft the Cincinnati Bengals. Select Joe Borough the`second fix case young. The Miami Dolphins liked to a tongue of Allah. Didn't that caller go go. It's amazing man. I've worked my whole life but this can you got hello everybody. I'm Wendy next happy to have you with us for. Nfl Live the day after the day. Of course of round two REX Ryan is here so to dinner and Tim Hasselbeck about last night. We start with a quarterback there were four taken in the first round on Thursday led by. Lsu's Joe Fro who was officially selected by the Bengals with the first pick failed in the great state of Ohio with the fake. The dolphins went with Alabama's to a chunk of Iowa. Miami hasn't had a pro bowl quarterbacks Dan Marino in nineteen ninety five the longest act drought in the League according to Elias. Right after it was the chargers. They took Oregon quarterback Justin Herbert who recently earned MVP honors at both the Rose Bowl and the senior bowl and then this the Green Bay packers moved up and selected Utah State Jordan Law. The first time in the common draft air. They traded up to the first round to draft. A quarterback. Here is Jordan love. I'm not sure how that is going to work excited to get back here. And just like I said learn as much as I can't from from a air you know he's a Amazing Player And I know I'M GONNA learn a lot from him And I'm not sure how that situation will work but like I said I'm excited to be behind them and do whatever the team needs. Love of course was asked about quarterback Aaron Rodgers and we say hello to Dan Graziano. Who's covering the packers for the draft? Dan this was a shocker. What went into green based decision to not only draft or love but move up to do so. The first thing I saw was about a conversation I had with packers. Gm Brian Gouda Ken's last July and training camp. I was asking him what they liked about. Matt Leflore who they just hired as head coach and he told me we thought he was the best fit for us not just short-term with Aaron but long term in terms of what we WANNA do as far as developing quarterbacks and so last night this came back me and the packers team. That's always thinking long term. They're not gonNA drop just for immediate need just for help this year and last night after the pick was made he made it clear that that's how they approach this. He said if we felt there was a real difference maker at another position. Available data point that draft. We would have considered him. We didn't so they look. They thought they had guide whose traits and whose character said good starting. Nfl quarterback they feel like they were adding a fourth round. Pick to move up. Four spots was a small price to pay to get that and it's just in character in terms of how the packers view their roster construction. They're not about. We need to win this year. They're about we need to be positioned to win every single year. All right Dan thank you now. Before last night as we look closely at the packers draft history they had used each of their previous eight. First Round picks unto -fensive players for those are no longer with Green Bay after coming. Just one win shy of a super bowl appearance last year. The packers now sit sit love for an entire year. They could certainly something. The first rookie quarterback hasn't done since Jake Walker in two thousand eleven. Here is Aaron Rodgers talking before the draft about his team. Possibly taking a quarterback. Look I'm a realist? I know where we're at As an organization where I'm at my career I still feel like I have tons of years left playing high level. I'm confident enough. I've I've always felt like it doesn't matter who you bring in the neck in a bill to beat me out anytime soon so Overly confident about my abilities. And my place guys Rex Ryan. I'll start with you. Certainly that's the case. Expect Aaron Rodgers to be safe in his position but there is an opportunity cost here and they don't get him any help so rex your reaction to that decision. I think me and almost every other person on the planet had to be shocked by this move and the reason I say it is look Aaron Rodgers A. Gm said he goes we the best quarterback in the league. Well wanted to wanted to act like you're the best quarterback in the league. You're one game shy of getting to a super bowl. Let's say Aaron Rogers says a three year window? Three more years left to play at an extremely high level. Well why don't we go for it every year instead of sitting back saying well we'll build for the future? I love it by the way this pick is not the same pick. It was fifteen years ago when Aaron Rodgers was drafted air. Rogers was in the conversation. Being the first player selected Jordan. Love Woods never ever in that conversation so to me. The it's not apples to apples So to me. I think it's just a mistake. We'll see how it goes. Look they've drafted. Quarterbacks of future in recent drafts as well and by the way every single one of them failed so to me. This is what you have. Let's finally surround. This guy was some weapons and they say you don't have a game changer. Says THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA. You're not looking to get a game changer. The rest of your draft. I think is ridiculous. It's a deep draft from receivers but why would give this guy the tools that he needs one game one more game and they could go to the Super Bowl. I find it a really good decision by Green Bay. I think two things kicked true one that they chose the future over the president but also that they can find a way to get better for twenty twenty season like they had the twentieth pick right and so the receivers that were left over. Are the Higgins Viscous Schultz Klay pools? There's a group of receiver Du Vernet Texas. They might see that group as a very similar group and so the thought is. Why are we going to use that first round? Pick on a receiver that we believe that we can get into sixty second pick and so go up and get the quarterback which secures the fifth year option for your future and then find a way to get a receiver at the sixty second pick and again. Birds are really big group of second round receivers that could be impacted for Green Bay. So listen to General. Manager's job is so difficult to go okay what like how do I get better today? But also be focused on the future and so the reality is this if they're in. Rogers is as good as I still think he is. During the love is not going to see field for a long time and he controls that yes. They need to give him better weapons. We all know that. But let's see what happens around two or three before we say. The packers made a massive mistake. Right on this kid's not going to see the field for a while. You're certainly right on that where I look at it is. Let's see if you get a t higgins in the Next pick in the second round. I WANNA risk it here so close to a super bowl man like like go get it to futures a whole string and now's in quite honestly. I don't see how you help your football team. We'll see how it goes. It'll play out in five years. We'll see if he's not going to see the field for a long time. Then it's eight terrible. Check the reality. Is you to see them. And you'RE GONNA end up using the fifth year option on him if he's not going to see the field and you have at least two years to evaluate him before picking up the fifth year option. Then it's a waste of pick is really what it is and you know in terms of the wide receivers and who would be available all the trade up your trade to get joint lawmen resident. Exactly right when he talks about not being apples to apples when Brett farve was the quarterback you'd think that they've come up ten and six season they draft Aaron Rodgers at that point aaraj rookie year. They go four and twelve. Twenty nine interceptions. You think Brett would have liked some help. Certainly there was good football still ahead for Brett Farve we saw so. I think when you look at this man Rogers perspective. He thinks he has more than two years left. I would agree with them. I think everybody sitting here would agree with that. So you know the idea that you were played you know Erin for two years and then move on then you would have to figure out Jordan. Love could play in two years before you pick up that fifth year option. There is no long term in the NFL. But here's the thing we know this about the NFL right. A lot of organizations make panic moves when they don't have a plan that quarterback and so I'm not going to sit here and bash because again what happens if they look at that group of eight receivers and go. We feel really confident that one of those guys is going to be there and we see them all the same so was the was the attack a receiver that they had ranked as the move for them to take a receiver at you know that they have ranked in the fifty to seventy range at twenty or do they go up and get the quarterback and go. We still feel confident. We can get a receiver. I understand that it is a very similar situation to just what ended in New England. You didn't help Tom Brady enough at the end of his career. But we've all lauded this drafter being super deep at the wide receiver position and they may get one of those guys. That are still impactful in your one. What tenders tackle or tight end as well? I mean it doesn't like it had to be a wide receiver. Go To ben attack. All they need one of those and they also need to tie them. Well guys no matter where you fall on the legitimacy of the decision. We can all agree. It was at the very least surprising. I think I think we're unanimous on that Friday the dolphins meanwhile another headlining team they made three picks in the first round yesterday led by number five perhaps franchise quarterbacks to Tunga Vilo with the eighteenth pick they added to protection upfront for to USC. Tackle Austin Jackson and then it thirty quarterback in Auburn's Noah Bennet Ghani The dolphins have been unable to find consistency at quarterback. Since Dan Marino the hall of Famer retired before the two thousand season. They twenty one different starting. Qb's since that time guide for third most in the League they are twenty two games below five hundred and mets fans and only had a winning record one time in the last decade. The dolphins have been in the playoffs just four times in the last twenty seasons. Their last postseason coming in two thousand. Still when you put it like that all right the question though. I think everybody's asking today. Tim is to over Justin. Herbert agree or disagree. I agree and really for me if you're assuming that too was healthy. I don't think it was all that close. You know part of what happens when guys get drafted. It's it's based on what they've done but also what they project to be. And so you know for two when you watch him play at Alabama so much you know conceptually what they were doing it. Alabama that you can see translate the National Football League. You can see him doing those things well and obviously he did it and extremely high level. The concern is the injury but when you look at Herbert I think the concern ends up being that you're basing a lot of on potential a lot of it on a what can be not necessarily what he has your what he accomplished as a player. In fact I thought he was held back a little bit as a player in that Oregon. Offense so you when you look at it that way. If you're making the assumption that the Miami Dolphins doctors were fine with his health that I think it was an easy decision. You know what Tim. I don't disagree that too as a player. You gotta sit back like wow. This is a no brainer. It'd be him Joe Borough in the conversation however just dismiss these injuries. It's not just the hip injury it's every single injury like five surgeries worthy injuries. And to me that's a real real risk I got. It's the biggest gamble ever however Miami was in a unique situation where I think this this was a team. That could make that gamble. Why you have five first round picks in the next two seasons so it made perfect sense. Look they got to build it from the pain in you got to force it that way with a small quarterback you look at what the saints have done with drew. Brees protecting him. They get those big massive guys playing guard. The dolphins added Eric Flowers in the off season. That's one right there. The center they picked up the backup from New England. We need another center. We need guard and now once you get that established now it fits in. You've got everything you need for this young man but by no means. Do you play this guy early. So I think it's a correct selection but you better make darn sure he's one hundred percent all right and not just. Hey the hips coming around. We gotta make sure he's one hundred percent before he ever sees the field and I think it's a great pick but the biggest risk of ever seen I agree with both of you guys ten. You bring up a great point like intellectually to is going to be really ready for the NFL. Because of the stuff that he ran and learned in college he'll be really understanding different types of concepts and coach. You bring up a great point so they would the offensive line right building inside out. This now becomes the two most impaired these become the most kind of paramount things for this one. What did the dolphins do now? I mean you made this election. You took the risk which was one hundred percent the right decision but now you gotTa make sure that you protect that decision right and so that football team up around two. This is why it was a good match because Chris greer and Brian Floor is are any long-term playing together in lockstep and they're not going to be pressured to have to get to on the field to prove ownership. Hey we can women these young player right and so they can be patient and build a really healthy football team around him and now it's really up to as well like to got approved. The dolphins that they were right to kind of roll the dice on him when it comes injury and his biggest thing is to realize you know. Make sure you understand the player that you are and you know the the availability is a big deal in the NFL. You don't have to prove how tough you are but this was absolutely the right decision for the dolphins. I gentlemen standby we'll say hello now to our insiders Adam and more than when you think about too is injury history more and the chargers belief in tyrod Taylor. How likely is it that either two or Herbert are starting when we won rolls around there? Well first of all. I got a have a conversation with rex at some point about those five surgeries to of missed four games three because of the hip injury and his Alabama career for the Dolphins Brian Forces in it to win it. He's got a new offense coordinator and lead to simplify offense but he also has Ryan Fitzpatrick. I don't know of anybody. Took notice about wealthed. Fitzpatrick played last year. I think he went up the foxborough pretty big in the pages really long term chances to go back to another super bowl but for Tua the expectation is that he'll go in and start and you'll probably physically be ready remember. We don't have an offseason. We don't even know what preseason is GonNa be about so it's not just about the physical part. It's about the mental part. But one thing that you hear that are legendary Alabama and Nick Sabin often license go-goes ones a lot of NFL players on that defense and two times and many times has just been magic in practice. Just when you think that the better players are on the defensive side to has away opening your eyes little by the way if it was good Patrick Mahomes the city. Here it's probably okay for two to Justin Herbert and Los Angeles. The chargers have no immediate plans to play him. Don't plan right away. They believe in like tyrod. Taylor and tyrod Taylor is going to go into camp. I'm going to go into. The season. Is the starting quarterback and they could afford to bring along just in Herbert at their pace as they recommend as they get ready to bring them up to speed in their offense again. No rush to get Herbert Ready. But they believe in him long term and in other news today the Texans right now or getting close to finalizing an extension. That's not yet done with the Texans. Tackle left tackle Laremy Tunsil when it does get done. It is expected to be a three year extension for sixty six million dollars that includes fifty million dollars guaranteed so people thought the Texans should have had a deal before going to get a deal done with them now. It's not done. They're going to the language right now. They're on the phone this afternoon. Tried to get that deal final. Shefty thank you six percent worth one in the first round and it was the speed sir. Henry Welsh the third that lead things off your second with twelve. Fix therefore straps since making the move to Las Vegas and then his teammate. Jerry Judy from Alabama taken by the broncos Fifteen Denver putting together a nice often led by Zula's. Melvin Gordon Portland. Sutton no offense. How Jerry duty at Seventeen Dallas opted for Oklahoma receivers CD lamb. He led the nation in yards per reception. Last year. Here is with our Shamsi cover. You've played with three different starting quarterbacks Baker Mayfield and Kyle Murray won the heisman and their starters in the NFL when Dak Prescott to know about how you can contribute to his success. He's definitely going to get an ultimate competitor A guy who's willing to get you to run. You know helping him and just help him like the bitter quarterback as if and you've movement veterans better than to tell cowboys than Edward R who joins us now and add. What factored into the cowboys thought process last night? Well you know what was interesting is how it unfolded the cowboys. Were actually in a situation. Wendy contemplates unexpected options. They had done approximately two dozen mock drafts and never was. Cd LAMB available at their. Pick at Seventeen. Ultimately they declined three trade offers and ignores her more urgent needs on defense to draft. Cd Lamb who they had is the number six player on their board. Jerry Jones said opinion around the NFL that wide receiver wasn't a priority for the cowboys probably prevented other interested teams from trump from trading in front of Dallas. In fact a division rival Eagles actually tried to make a trade with the Falcons at sixteen to get in position to take. Cd-rom in front of the cowboys they had to settle for picking another receiver. Jalen Rieger at twenty one steven Jones said that compared to the other options on the draft board CD. Lambs name was just a blinking light. That could not be ignored and Mike. Mccarthy had new cowboys head coach in his first draft process with this group really commended. The group's thinking in terms of honoring their draft board. Drafting the best player over addressing a need and Wendy to put this into some perspective. You know the calories are coming off a season where for the first time in the sixty year history of the franchise then a four thousand yard. Passer a thousand yard rusher and two thousand yard. Receivers never have done that before it history. Now they add CD lamb but it does come at a cost. Their other option was to add an edge rusher and Levion von Chase on from Lsu. Now they're probably a little more dependent on to suspended players Randy Gregory and Alden Smith than they like to be at thank you. That's how it works. You do one thing. It means you don't do another. We're joined now by Ryan Clark and Marcus Spears as well and Ryan is you heard Ed look. They have the opportunity to cowboys. Did to trade. This pick turned down three offers Any any surprise Marcus. Actually at the cowboys plan no no surprise at all. Obviously we had heard about parents Russia but the fact that CD lamb got there and listen for everybody that saying Wendy that this was not a need. They had Randall Cobb in the slot last year. Who departed this? Feel some sort of gap and now mind Brinkley. Goals to Dak Prescott the fact. That Prescott is a more Kupa Michael Gallup and now see in the slot and I think Blake Darwin tight in. Don't be a superstar role of numbers so the last night it was presented to me by young man when they ran. Clark Than Dag should play unattended ball out and trying to figure out a winning the hail. Somebody should pass up one hundred million dollars guaranteed to take twenty seven. 'cause they gotta look at receivable so almost sit back and swatow pick. Marcus fears Marcus Spears. Don't you include me and your comments? When ain't nobody ask you no questions about me when we're talking about? Cd and you look at the draft pick dramtic of CD lamb. They did the right thing. If a guy's ring that high on your board and so on falls to you that you feel like is somebody who can't pass up you have to make make pig and let's look at what the cowboys have been doing in recent drafts or even as far back to the Johnny Manziel draft it was the guy that Jerry Jones love. He was evacuated with Johnny Manziel when he went alarming because it was the better player it was better for the organization. And that's what they did here. Obviously Pass rusher is something that they covered and you can get one later on in the draft. There were no more no more Chase Jones in this draft CD lamb is gonNA be a player. He's going to be all pro a pro bowler at some point. And if you can help you continue to roll of yards. Then you win. Look at the Kansas City chiefs. No one sitting around saying they should have been drafting pass rushers when they go out and get a call Hartman because he stretches the defense and you can't beat them because you can't outscore it's a great pick by the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah Hey I tell you what Ryan I'm GonNa. I'M GONNA sign the hundred million dollar contract just so you guys know. I'm going to look at this when you see CD lamb. I don't disagree. I think he's got what it takes to be a pro bowl. And you knew Wellstone Mike McCarthy to me when you're looking at this kid. When he came out I was thinking. This guy reminds me a Davante Adams because at the top of the route. He's so physical and he's such a competitor for the football and then by the way you can't tackle him his catches amazing. And when you put Gallup and Cooper on the outside who by the way the run bags decent and the office allies these this offense is GonNa be now. What are they gonNA do about pass rush? I'm not sure because I think what they're going to do. In a second round is take a safety but three top safeties in the draft are still available. So I think when you look at Xavier mckinney at Alabama delicate out of Lsu and then Antoine Winfield. Junior three three ball or sitting right there so this might be an unbelievable draft for the cowboys especially if they land one of these guys. It just warms about hard to hear. Y'All talk so well. Labonte Dallas cowboys cancels out here so much so much negativity surrounding by the fact that we got it right would see and we still got that. We identified and his brand that we could be a better team. Dammit if we eight years and I'm GonNa just do this is that's the thing we're just building you up so vacant. Let you don't want you to have a great to feel so good and bubble up a full. Expect this great offense and you guys are going to score tunnel points and still be sitting home with US watching the playoffs in the end. The cowboy's duty. Oh they're fans all the time but for one day or every guy. He was the captain. Notice you yeah. We're at Clark what this man has moment? Let let let Marcus for just a few fellas thank you as always. Lsu Let all schools five first round picks last night and according to Elias. That's tied for the second. Most in the first round of any draft history only the hurricane had more back in four also the first time in the common draft era that quarterback running back and wide receiver were taken from the same school in the first round of the draft and Lsu tied in fat loss who scored two touchdowns in the National Championship. Game could join his teammates as a draft. Pick before this weekend is over. And maybe you've heard about dad. He joins US now. Hall of Famer Randy Moss and Randy will certainly get to that in just a minute. But let's start with last night's number one. I know you got to see a lot of that. Is Joe Borough? What have the bengals found in their new quarterback? Will they had a Guy? Who's ready to take the bull by the horns and just come in ready ready to play. There was a lot of questions concerning Joe Borough throughout the season. Everybody's talking about his offense a weapons. How many guys he had to work with. But when I seeding First hand been out there throwing the ball being able to run a pro style offense how he moves in the pocket being able to keep the chains moving to keep the offense on the field. That's wild thing to Cincinnati. Bengals have found their man. I like all intangible guys and the the one thing that really stands out to me mates every body on the defense of where that he's on the field so he's going to get everybody office involved. And that's what I like him. This young quarterback man. I tell you why Randy this guy. 'cause Randi would tell me about how good this quarterback was and I remember. I can't be that good then. You watch him and it's like oh I never seen they like it. I mean it's well. I never happened in college football every the greatest year of any quarterback in the history of the game. But it's amazing. He can throw on time on time. His poison of pocket like Randy talks about this is unreal and they know sit back and he's so accurate the football this where he reminded me A. Tom Brady many puts that ball. Right under your Chin protects the receiver from collisions. He gives them a chance to run after the catch with it. The guys just amazing. And then by the way that speech if you're if you'RE CINCINNATI BENGAL. They got. They probably sold one hundred thousand. Jerseys Joe Borough on it and if they would have you know why mess that pickup gone with somebody else. Oh my gosh you forget about it but this guy is a perfect quarterback for the Cincinnati bengals. Well let me ask you this randy. Because borough going number one was expected we sort of do that leading up to this thing but then there were the packers trade up to draft a quarterback Jordan love. I think if no matter what you think about the decision it was a surprise What did you think about making the move for love? Instead of adding some help for their current quarterback Aaron Rodgers. Well it was kind of shocking to me as a fan of as an analyst to really see that Aaron Rodgers is still planning a high level and for them to really use their first round. Pick on a quarterback knowing what they have already there so when I look at the the Green Bay packers and bring in a guy like Jordan. Love is weeks. I don't know if we've seen the best of Aaron Rodgers but now that we know that competition is in the building as a football fan as as as a former player. I like what the Green Bay packers has done Like I said. I don't know what how better how much better Air Roger Stink but with them bringing your love into that building. It's going to light a fire up whether Aaron Rodgers. I look for big things coming out a great band at offense. I think I mean that's just human nature and we certainly know. Aaron Rodgers is a competitor. Let me ask you this. There was also the little matter of Henry Rugs. The third he went twelfth. Overall to the raiders. And I know you've had a chance to spend a little time with him so before you before I ask you this. Take a look go into the national football league. Hey soon back up here you WANNA work with the glove. That's cool with me the penalty just devil's island. Just let you know for. Every drop looks fiber starting off your professionals now. This college is over with if it's a weakness of what I see that means over the next week week and a half before you go. Doug need to home in on it before they know what I'm saying. All right so we got randy the hall of Famer Randy Randy the coach Rex. How do you do shoot? No surprise Randy was incredible. But you know it's a little different. This guy's got a little stroke to him. You know what I be because if everybody is seen him a first ballot hall of favor so rainy can go out there and tell them anything lineup backwards. They're going to do it. Fashion and I know ready. He could do it all. There's no question Randi you know it'd be a little different. They saw my tape. Nobody would listen to me. I thought he did a great job. And you just see those kids right there how they respond to metal bed. Yeah Randy could do anything no surprise but you know what he enjoys fishing too much for all the coaches out there. Don't worry he's not. He's not talking to me. What what does the raiders get in rugs? You see their reacting last night. They were thrilled with the pick. So who are they getting? Well think they're really getting a home redetermined very explosive and talented wide receiver. You know I think that this year's wide receiver class of for this year's draft is very very deep. I mean you're going to get steals. Lateness drap but when you look at the first receiver taking off off the board from Alabama when you look at the talented. They had on their roster. Rubs is one of the Oakland Raiders. Something that home run threat of what he's able to bring to this. Oakland offense with car at the quarterback just been able to get the ball in his hands. It's just to see what he did for Alabama Crimson tide. He was able to stretch the field. But I think that rubs most effective within the five to ten yard range where you can get the ball in his hands and make all eleven guys. Try to tackle this young man randy one more joked about the number of hats you wear but this week not a coach or an analyst but also a father I see. Wait for your son. Fads name to be call one. Has it been like for you? Not as a player this time but as the dad record wracking for me Wendy just being able to think back a million years ago back when I was going through this process and how emotional I was in the Roller Coaster. Takes you up and down throughout the whole weekend and as you can see the pictures of me and my my son just being a proud dad to see him reach ago of being able to play in the National Championship. Me Been able to play in the League announced. I got a a second-generation hopefully to be introduced into the National Football League so I think I'm about as nervous and jittery as he is but like I said God is going to just keep our faith in God and to see what he adds a store force I rack. Randy will be watching a best of luck to you and also to. Thad he gives something and you get something right so we obviously gave up a lot. We weren't in Las Vegas. We understand that but nevertheless the draft went on and what we did guess guys is to be inside some of these houses. You know with coaches and GM's we got to see families. We got to see people together. I mean a lot of it was cool so we're not going to do it best because everybody had on like casualwear but we are going to talk about where they were. Marcus what what did you see that she thought was interesting. First of all Jerry Jones only yacht was the biggest flakes. I've ever seen in my entire life out. Grab a drop in the ocean. And I'm corn taste better than anybody could ever corn team in the history of quarantine peasants do what? I won't draft from the ozone. Oh and then there was this well for me. It was Mike. Ray was the first thing that comes to mind. Do head somebody in a Fr- ozone suit and if anybody has ever you lose. And then his other homeboy a blonde mullet. I'm talking about like straight awful tiger king. This is what you want out of your bag. Your when you a grime me linebacker. And then he had to do they say he was on a stool but just for background purposes. We're going to continue to think where we thought last night might ray water winner. Bane bested Marquess B. Ability is the guy has a billion dollars and byles a ball bowl and drives it around with every day all the money that he's ever may from every paycheck he's gotten to the NFL. That's what this room says. The second thing is room says eaters. I don't try to impress you. How drifts and coats on the satellite? I dare try to impress live life. I like the extension cord or whatever it is just plug it in. Here we go. Hey guys talk about cliff. Teams very yes. But that's just win the Knicks. That's why he did it so women all around the world saying signed me. Well this strap this Kim tunnicliffe clippings berries posting pitcher in a Speedo. That's what he wanted people to see. Look at all. This space is guys. Don't you WanNa Watch Netflix over here? This is netflixing. He probably make you think the Netflix people live here. I get all the new joints. WanNa be very well done. Wow well we want to go over there. Yeah I know we have to look at. The people can't afford it. We all enjoyed seeing the setup. Here's what a quarterback Patrick Mahomes of course played for cliff at Texas Tech said Apparently when do you say oh? I've tried to have like cliff George Tire and Matthew Return. No wonder they couldn't afford me anymore. Best Fair enough basis here as the worldwide leader and we have a house insider real estate aficionado quarantine expert Diana Rossini and Diana. Apparently you've talked to a few of these guys including the aforementioned cliff Kingsbury. My career is really taking off here. Become a real estate insider talking to these questions today. Yes so if you look at the Kingsbury pictured the one thing that stands out is where are the outlets if you're running a draft? How you charging your phones and computers He says the outlets are actually pretty far away. He's a big cable court to connect it all and I kinda look at is. I don't think he really thinks he needs it. He's got those three cell phones. He seems to be embiid space there and he's also doing that. Ryan gosling crazy stupid. Love scene there. It seems like that's the house they used in that movie which I felt like I had asked them at the ever. Use that whole Patrick swayze move and he says he's never done that so he doesn't steal the gosling moves he just kind of looks like a tough tough row. Listen what about Mike rebel because Ryan mentioned that and it was an interesting say I love ribs but if the interesting thing a little odd so the way was described to me was they were watching as a family all the other teams. The head coach is sitting with young children and they were celebrating hugging and Rabo looked over at his eighteen and nineteen year old sons. One Son Being Offensive Lineman at Boston college thinking like I don't really want to hug you. That plus you're bigger than me. So he said you know you guys do what you WANNA do. And that's what they came up with. He said he was just locked in to what they were doing with this draft. They talk to John Robinson over the phone and he's like the next thing. I knew I looked behind me. And they're dressed off and the wearing my Jersey and it all just happen fast and he made it a point Ryan Clark. I know we want to believe in the whole bathroom situation that that that wasn't the case either way it seems like that's that's that's the most fun house me four quarterbacks. I elected last night including three in the first six weeks Joe. Borough went to the Bengals to a chunk of Iowa to the Dolphins Justin Herbert of the chargers and then the surprise Jordan. Love to the packs for me. I think right now I I just want to focus on being able to get get to know everyone I mean I want to build relationships with guys on the team. I want to dive deep. And so my playbook understand you know what I need to do to get better and My opportunity comes it comes. I'm going to do my best to be the best quarterback I can be and I'm GonNa get on it as soon as I can get the offense down and continue to work hard and whether it's in Los Angeles Gene. I'm do my best. You know I knew I was going to have a really good season. 'cause I knew we had really good players. Combat Guy Great coaches on we were gonNA work really really hard to do it but to to jump up to number one of ours is crazy to me But it's a it's a dream. Come true guests so join our quarterback Stan Laskey Greg mcelroy? Tim Hasselbeck. Let's start with you. Dan Borough to the bengals house to fit. It's a really good vitamin ZACK. Taylor in Brian Callaghan have a great understanding of the quarterback position. And then you look at the things that borough does when I talk when I think of like a calm for him or comparison for me. It's always been Steve Young. Since the middle of the season last year a couple of things stand out his instincts and reactions in the pocket or just absolutely ridiculous and they kind of you quake to hit it yardage in their offense and his ball placement. A Lotta guys in the NFL are accurate. Throwers but you can go place the football where you want to different types of throws you making that he just doesn't really good job in the field you can. You can get into empty packet in. This is in a way very Tom. Brady like where he'll try to find. Our leverage is the best for me. What matchup is the best for me? How can I manipulate the coverage with my with my eyes and so he just has a really good skill set of seeing the full picture. So just that the athleticism that both those guys have for me was a conference Steve. Young and he'll do really really well. He will overcome anything that gets thrown his way in Cincinnati. I Love Joe Borough. And how he transitioned this pacheer into Joe. Brady's offense and what I love most guys even when his receivers last year we're covered and that wasn't often because of how talented that receiver core was. He found a way to throw them open. He could manipulate his receivers body with the accuracy that he displayed. And really even when you were covered you work covered because of just how top shelf that accuracy wasn't the way he moved in the pocket. Dan You described that he always stayed in the throwing posture kind of maneuver his body to deliver the throw accurately progress so incredibly well last year that I think. Cincinnati has a home run quarterback under center for the next decade change. I agree with both of you guys. I mean there's really nothing to not like about. What would you saw from job a year ago and I think some of the fit with. What Zack Taylor wants to do? A rhythm we also have be able to create and nothing Mel Kiper then strong and right on this in terms of the Cincinnati bengals and who they aren't as an organization. You just think about it. They were a double digit win. Team from two thousand twelve through twenty fifteen. I you know this idea that you cannot win Cincinnati. I don't know if that's totally accurate. And so they are rebuilding situation for the gets built around a quarterback. It had as good a year is probably anybody can remember in college football in a year. All right Dan Orlovsky looking glass half empty. But these guys have a major transition coming out. And everybody's got a flaw in their game. Let's look at what they're going to have to work on. And we'll start with Joe Borough. I mean we're going to nitpick here with Joe Borough big time right. Try to find something. I'd say this if you were going to say one thing that he does not do. Incredibly wealth is arm strength and so the reality of the NFL is the windows that you throw into smaller. And they closed quicker and so. How quickly does he adjusted? And then Greg touchdown this with you know throwing some guys that were covered open. We don't see that often the NFL. Not often you throw in four or five balls that are kind of opportunity balls downfield and guys are going to make every single one so how quickly it just to the windows and then how quickly he just trusting some guys in the NFL? That can do that because some guys you see. You cannot trust to do that and so that's going to be. I don't want to call it. A flaw that his biggest kind of growth. For to know thyself. You know to so many incredible treats and oftentimes those traits lead him to play a little bit too much like Russell Wilson. He needs to be more like drew. Brees where it's understanding listened scrambling not your strength. Running around is not your strength. Your strengths getting through progressions and getting the ball your hands. That will keep you safe. That's going to be the biggest growth for him just in her. I think we're now that the chargers have him daime to unlock and aggressive mindset for Justin. Herbert he needs to believe that he is the offense that he's the superhero of that offense. Not that he's just the quarterback so they've got to get him to be aggressive kind of trust the physical talents and physical traits that he has and believe in his mind. Make any throw and just be aggressive with the football and and and believe that you can throw people open and make the perfect throat. Because he's got so much talent but he's got to believe in himself a little bit more in his talent. Nfl Jordan love. Don't assume you know a lot of times. Quarterbacks get told. Don't predetermine where you're going to throw. The football. Never believed in that. You need to know where you're going to throw the football. Don't assume who you're going to throw the football too. And he would kind of lose his eyes because he would stare at one way and assume it was gonNA move certain defenders and come back in. Just throw the ball blindly right to linebackers and underneath coverage or safeties under underneath garbage. So he's got to get to a point where he listens to his feet more in place reactionary with his is rather than just assuming things going on with the defense so they all have their own flaws. They all have their own challenges to the coaching staff. That they're going to go to. And the biggest thing is how quickly those guys can minimize those flaws and maximize those strengths. All Listen Gregg Dan and got to weigh in on this earlier. But you weren't with us so I'd be curious what you thought about the decision by the packers to draft your love in the first place Jordan love. I couldn't be happier. I get a couple of years to just sit back and watch one of the best to ever do it right in front of me learning from him and tried to adopt some of the things that he's done into my game and frankly when you look at Jordan love guys have his highest ceiling as any quarterback in this draft as far as just raw horse power. He can throw it down the field. You can fit in tight windows. He's a better athlete than you realize. When he's out and about in the pocket however connell acquit. Dan Just alluded to when his feet are not underneath them and when he predetermined where he's going to throw the football and the coverage dictates otherwise he's an absolute disaster. The Guy has to understand. That are progressions and you need to go from one to two to three and allow your feet to talk to you. But when his feet are planted and they're stable and they're setting and he's decisive he might be the most impressive amongst all the quarterbacks in the NFL draft. Every quarterback has those head scratching interceptions. One that we all know you watch it and go. As soon as it left his hands he wanted that one back. We all know it and everyone has them even the great ones have them but the reality is that when you watched or there's just too many on them and I think that's why I would be a little bit concerned about how this plays out in Green Bay. One of the things really the best way to get better is to actually play. And if you just look at the next two seasons unless Green Bay just decides that they're going to trade Aaron Rodgers after this year which there'd be a massive cap hit with that. I don't know how you really know Jordan. Love is improving on some of the mistakes that he made a Utah State against really at all times. Low caliber you know opponents so I think that the adjustment while it can be a good thing to learn behind a great at the same time. You need to be out there in around. Live bullets the figure out and make some mistakes to to improve. I think that's going to be a challenge for them to my agree with that the reason why I do really like the fit though with Matt. Leflore in this offense is this. Offense is so predicated on in Greg. Used this phrase your feet tell you where to throw the football in talking about getting through progressions so often he would just like all right. That is going to be open and throw it and the offense to the packers are going to run his colleague. Shanahan Mike Shannon and Gary Kubiak offense where Jordan love is going to have those bad habits. Kinda stripped down and he will learn how to play quarterback really from the ground up rather than top down and so he'll trust his feet to tell him where he throws the ball and to Greg's point if he gets there that physical talent is so unique. Mike Tannenbaum joins us for the first time this afternoon and like pay when you think about Jalen hurts and you think about a good productive fit who stands out for me. It's easy. It's the Baltimore Ravens. He reminds me of a player that works. And I had in Brad Smith. Because he's so dangerous with the ball in his hands he could run it and he can throw it. He had thirty two touchdowns last year. People will remember at Oklahoma though. He also had twenty rushing touchdowns. Could you imagine the amount of pressure that Baltimore offense can put on opposing defenses? If he's in the backfield with Lamar Jackson in terms of two players who can run it and throw it. I think has a good skill set in terms of good foundation. He has to improve his downfield. Accuracy is accuracy overall. This year was pretty good at sixty nine point seven percent but my concerns or gain the ball down the field but Baltimore would be a great place for him to start his career. Mike you mentioned Brad Smith. It's funny because Brad Smith would have been coming out of college right now. He would have been a quarterback and not a receiver so to me. It's a that's an interesting comparison right there but I look at this guy. One thing we know about him. He is a winner. An absolute winner two-time SEC offensive player of the year. If I if I recall but when I look at them I think New England is a perfect spied. Look saving goes back that history with a ballot check and there's no reason why this guy can't get it done. Obviously he's GonNa do it a little differently his his his legs or a huge weapon and it would look different. But I don't want that he's a winner and I wouldn't be surprised if bill bell checks in the same way I am and he goes out and he drafts this young man. I'd see it at says. Seattle guys and it's because right now when you look at the backup quarterback situation for the seahawks it's a little grim and frankly Russell Wilson's been absolutely incredible staying healthy throughout the course of his career. But you put Jalen hurts is in a situation like that where he can learn from excellent quarterback in his own right and develop over. The course of time keeps them in the second round guys. I don't see it. I mean I don't see him contributing right away because frankly you mentioned him being more like Brad Smith. I see a more being Tim tebow winner. Yes absolutely physical absolutely very hard worker very strong very diligent unbelievable intangibles. All of those things are true but there's also very sporadic with his feet. His accuracy is very inconsistent and has ball and timing with the way he anticipates throws isn't always there so I think Jalen hurts is a long-term project that needs to be figured out and kind of learn under a great pro like Russell Wilson out in Seattle where it can be exclusively backup to add to add is. It's the action that the teach sets the floor and the character system ceiling. This Guy Los Appall. He's a great competitor as REX. Lou and I agreed. His game is far from complete. But it's a really good base to start with very productive at two different programs. He gets around the right coaching staff and if they could clean up this accuracy issue. You could hit big later on the strath with somebody like Jalen. Now Louis Riddick. Here Jim Nagy is here. We got a full house. Let's let's talk about winners from last night. Round one winners Mel. I'll start with YOU MINNESOTA. Vikings I think. Rick and the job he did get players at the fort in which they really are a bargain and a good value just in. Jefferson. I thought we go. Maybe middle of I moved up after running that four four three with all that great productivity at Lsu then Jeff gladly gladly at the end of the first round about a guy now with Jefferson helping out that wide receiver spot. A major void in Jefferson is a guy hightower can come in and be ready to produce right away and then I think you look at a guy on the other side of the ball in gladness who uses his hands well enough to basically break up the past without causing any penalty flags to be thrown. Very intuitive cornerback. I thought he would be. Maybe a late first early second. They traded back so they didn't reach at in. Stretch it a bit. They took him at a at a point where it was more palatable than where they were picking. I give the wrecks bill and a lot of credit the Minnesota Vikings an eighth grade for day one. Yeah I almost went San Francisco here but I agree with Mel love. These two picks for the Vikings. They addressed a couple of big needs. Don't know what happened with digs up there. But as Mel talked about Justin Jefferson's a high high football character guy. He's GonNa come in and adjust really quickly played great in the slot. This year for was a different player inside than it was on the perimeter and then he's got the huge catch radius. He's the guy that Joe Borough trusted. You just put the ball up to. And he would make a play for him. So reminds me of Michael Thomas from the New Orleans saints really similar comparable player and then Jeff. Gladdy really fun player to watch on tape. You know the only real knock is size. But he doesn't play small he so aggressive. He's feisty fast. He's athletic and as Mel talked about getting his hands on balls. Twenty-six passes defense the past two years. That seems like Mike Zimmer type of pick. I really like what the Vikings did. Well Jim you go with San Francisco. I am going to go with San Francisco and I'll tell you this general manager John Lynch. He absolutely knocked it out the park. I've thought on the first day you know you. Trade back one spot in the first round pick up devan kin law who may be one of the top two or three most explosive players pound for pound in this draft the guy who's going to really dispatch to the other first round picks that they have on their defensive line and he's going to be one of those got one of those guys who may have the highest upside and the most untapped potential of all of them right now and that includes. Nick Bosa so adding Devan Kit law that expect tackler move and then they come back with the twenty fifth pick and they think one of my favorite guys out of Arizona State branded Naik a guy who is the ultimate catch and run big. Play Guy The guy who can take it to the house on wide receiver screens. Quick slants quick dig routes and he's also a master at running the double moves down the field and he's just a big play wedding the happen. That's exactly what they needed and the wide receiver core Joe Manager John Lynch head coach. Sal Kyle Shanahan plus from me all right. Yeah easy greater there. Louis Riddick I like a plush to von Kendra had the best family reaction. He wins out. I don't know if we give an award for that but I just did the. Nfl draft for students tonight seven eastern on ESPN ABC and the NFL network. The bengals once again. Take things off then. They will be followed by the colts the lions and the giants Patriots. So go figure. Stop me if you've heard this four. Enter the night with the most fix of day two of any team in this draft. All right. Plenty to go We've got safeties. David mckinney and Antoine Winfield. Junior they are. The top melts list of best available prospects. Also out there skill position players De Andrea Swift. Jk Dobbins and Michael Pittman junior mill. Who's your favorite? Still on the board mckinney. Think about a guy if you got a list of the best pure football I forgetting speed. Forget all that in those numbers strength. Four six three but he plays a lot faster than that. It's all over the field making plays yet. Ninety five tackles dispatched ear three sacks intercepted three passes for four fumbled. You will be a great second round pick me you will provide an attitude and leadership to the back end of a defensive secondary the NFL. P- yeah I'm glad went mckinney. Because I almost did but I'm going with AJ Nessa deepens event from Iowa Twenty six and a half career sacks double digits each of the last two years not a real twitchy guy off the edge. Put a big body rusher. He's got feel he's got effort. He's going to get on the field next year in and be a big big contributor for some team go with Jonathan Taylor shocking. I know look. This is the most productive college football running back in his first three years. I three years in the history of college football one thousand nine hundred yard plus three straight years now. I know my man Melkite. Were sitting there going. But Louis doesn't catch the ball out of the backfield. He has ball security issues. But these are things that are correctable fundamental aspects of his game. It's something you can attribute to. Wisconsin bought security issue. Something he will be coached out. And I'll tell you this he's going to be whoever picks early on the second day and Lou. Jk Dobbins runs fierce ball. Juries improve hands have to get a little bit better in a couple of drops this year runner. He's as good as Jonathan Taylor and the Andrea Swift versus kid added Georgia figures. Look at Second Round. Picks as well swift to me. When you looked at completeness he checks. The box is now. He's not as dynamic in my opinion runner as Jonathan Taylor. He certainly doesn't have the ball security issues. He's good receiver. Not Maybe as good as Clyde Edwards layer went to the chiefs at the end of the first round last night. But all around completeness is running back wide and a second round normally should have been a first round pick but the priority now is running backs anymore. And I've been talking about that. Seems like for thirty years but I think all three of those backs Taylor swift and Dobbins will be great. Second round draft choices take from looks to go early in today's draft when round two gets underway according to milk hyper junior the strong arm. Jacob East and the best quarterback prospect left on this board last season sixteen percent of eastern pass attempts traveled twenty or more air yards actually a higher rate them. Both Joe Borough Bilo. The question will the Patriots. Bring in either of these guys. The question really is the Patriots. Just pick some players either way We faked are Mike. Reese Mike what can you tell us about the New England? Chances of ringing a quarterback at some point tonight. Wendy the Patriots. Have five picks. This is really the heart of their draft and specific to the quarterback question. It's interesting to go back to last night. There at twenty three and Jordan love is right there for them with this big quarterback question and they just trade right out of there. Which in part is a statement of confidence to what they have on the roster which includes Jarret Stidham but they still would like to add a quarterback told at some point in this draft. But here's two key points. They are not going to force it. Wendy. They have a lot of needs on this roster and the second point that was brought up to me as a unique position you know. Espn stats and information. Are Great Department pointed out that about twelve? Quarterbacks on average are drafted each year over the last decade so teams. Really only have a small handful of quarterbacks that that they would actually consider drafting in the draft so a lot of things have to fall into place similar like it did for the Patriots in two thousand fourteen. When Jimmy Garoppolo was there late in the second round my thank you and I certainly believe as well that New England won't force it. That's just really not in their DNA. Usually not how they do things. Foxborough Dan Orlovsky. I'll start with you and the Patriots quarterback situation. Would you take a quarterback? If you're in New England I'm Mike brings up a great point of the belief of Jarret Stidham kind of showed up last night gig from would be something that listen. If he falls to one of those four third round picks jake problem would be somebody that I think really fits New England. If you think about the things that the intangibles right that are totally in line. With what New England once Boso. He fits their style of offense. He's really good throwing the ball with in-between the numbers. He's in the pocket. He's got great command. He's a ball distributor. It's kind of your dinking dump. Stahl of quarterback with his ability to play point guard in in those regards. So I could see jake from you know but I don't think that New England needs. This is the way I look at it. Where did they have geared steam ranked coming out of the draft and they kind of elevated their belief in him and is there anybody left in this draft? That it's not a competition thing. Is there anybody left in this Jack? They think or. They have graded higher than they had geared stadium right like if they had. Jacobson ranked higher than jeered. Maybe do that Jake from graded higher than they had geared system than maybe but I don't think they force it to one guy would say it would be jake from. Yeah I say last night. When they passed on the opportunity to add Jordan love he was the last guy in this draft that has as much or more talent than Jarret Stidham. So when you let him go. Now you're dealing with guys that you're GONNA have to be high intangibles guys and to me. There's two in this in this draft. Jake Frahm we've talked about and also jalen hurts going back to my time in New England. Both these guys that value system in New England there Jim Rats. Those guys are really hard to find winners their leaders you look at. Jalen hurts probably came into this process as a fourth round. Pick the more the. Nfl has spent time round this the more they bought into them so just from just from knowing what New England values at that position and a guy that might not have the same arm telling physical tools that Jarrett Stidham has because his very good. I'm a huge believer in Jarret. Stidham you're going to have to have some of these other things to compensate and the two guys that have them. Are Jake from in Jalen hurts. You know what's interesting to me? Their belief in jared actually started last year guys on Labor Day when they cut Brian Hoyer so last year with championship aspirations. They're going to season with Tom. Brady and a very small sample set on Jarrett Stidham. So not only do they believe in him last night over love but it goes back a year ago to just one preseason that he was their backup quarterback for me and I know Dan. It's GonNa be shocking that you and I actually seat backs a little bit differently. But his Jacob Jacobsen was being out by Jacob from Georgia. He went up to Washington. You have one good year. He's sort of the prototypical in the pocket quarterback he has to clean up his footwork his accuracy. I think maybe at the bottom of the second third round I like his upside and even though from has incredible intangible guys I agree with that. I just think at the end of the day from the fields can be condensed because he can't get the ball outside the numbers and that's why would separate eastern over from because at least at the NATO easing can get the ball down the field outside the numbers. And no matter. How smart how studious. And how dependable from is I. Don't think his arm abilities can be good enough mighty. I'm sitting here trying to figure out how you draft me because pounds. I'd appreciate how did you. How did you pass on the in the first round man listen Eastern has got so much physical intrigue you talked about the arm strengthen the in the New England tree so so to speak. I would say this. If the New England Patriots believed that Jacob off the field and in intangibles embitter ship qualities can match his physical qualities. Then they should take with the second round pick. I mean that's the truth is if they believe that those things can match the physical talent. Take Him with your newly acquired second round pick but that's a question that New England has to answer and Mike T. That wouldn't have been a question for me. Man I would have been. I would have been the same on on both levels okay. You're you check both boxes. He's still checking Mike. All right guys. Thank you very much more. An atom back with us our intrepid insiders as we look ahead to round two and guys speaking of which because it won't be long. What will you be watching tonight? And we'll start with the quarterbacks well with Jake from here. I think the expectation that I'm hearing is that maybe he gets taken into the third round. He had these great intangibles. Yes quarterback coaches fall in love with them but the physical skills is tantamount pointed out or pretty average. It's interesting. He has the distinction of tasting off to five star quarterbacks and both Jacobson and Justin fields but that was because Kobe smart the head coach at Georgia saw. He was a game manager. And that's why you step with some believe. That was a mistake at Georgia now. So Adam go ahead yours and more. You heard gymnast. He talks about jalen hurts elevating stockton this process. He came in as round pick. And I believe he's going to be going in the second round tonight. Just too many teams like the colts ever need. A quarterback steelers have need a quarterback. There's a lot of teams out there that need quarterbacks and I believe Jalen hurts elevated his value into the second round of this draft tonight. More definitely become an intriguing guy and you know. Let's talk about Jacob and I was a little surprised Jim. Nagy saying that the intangibles but listen He. Here's the prototypical size on the arm and some pedigree there because Tony since certainly played in the NFL but as teams have peeled back the onion. What they don't like is what they're hearing about his work ethic it does not meet the standard and will it ever meet the standard and so even in this off season leading up to the draft. So Jacob Beeson is intriguing on tape. I don't know that you've got glowing reports from Washington sap or even from the Georgia staff so I do think there are team. There's a team or to this as too much talent not to not to take a chance on and Moto's the rookie quarterback that could be in play tonight. The veterans who are on the trade bloc have been in play. And we'll be in play all weekend long. You Store Trent Williams. The redskins have been having negotiations with teams as of the Jaguars about Iana Godoi. But they have said that they are going to be unable to deal. Yana Gaga in their point in their mind now again. There are other veterans out there. Andy Dalton as a pricey contract number was insanity. Janaka gangways that guy. The Jacksonville doesn't think you'd be able to deal. I think of all the veterans the one. That's most likely to be dealt at some point. This weekend would be the Washington offensive tackle tremblings. He's the name to watch. He's the name to monitor the other players. The other veterans were time where some of them with the big money. They command like. Yana can. God where Matt Jude on. Whoever WOULD BE? They'd have to take a physical impassive physical. It's hard to get a physical. These days and teams are going to be leery about paying money at this point in time to players like that plenty of talent still on the board as we enter date to. If you're a prospect that was disappointed by last night's results. Consider THIS LAST YEAR. Second Rounders actually took more snaps last season then. Did those drafted I. I like it. Rex Who do you like tonight? I like Xavier mckinney out of Alabama one of the most productive players in the entire draft. It's hard to believe we still there. He ran a poor forty. Who Cares? Put the tape on. The guy is a tackling machine. He makes plays all over the place so I love the guy the next guy is and Anton Winfield. The all he is he's like his dad. He's short who cares not smalley short. But he's attacked another guy that'll tackle you. And he can flat run grading coverage he's got the pedigree both these guys are going to be stars in the League first year starters. I look at K. J. Hill out of the house state. You talk about a kid. That's been coach really well under Brian Hotline. And you find a team. That's looking for a slot receiver. Listen this kid can absolutely route you up in a team is going to like him tonight. Take him tonight and then add them to an offense and he will wear out the middle of the field and then listen jalen hurts one of the greatest stories that we've had come into the draft in a long time in his jury wrote a time in the NFL where it's about what you can do. Not What you can't do in put him on this team tonight. That run the ball really well believes has a good defense and man. You can add to your football team and just opened up a ton of new place offense. I like those players tonight.

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Hour 1: NFL Preseason Week 2

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Hour 1: NFL Preseason Week 2

"L. morning it is time to get up with the n._f._l. Busy night star quarterbacks in the middle of it. All including kyle murray game number two pick number one one major ager problem. We'll tell you what it is. Plus sam darnold continues to impress. We'll show you why fans are the jets were out of their seats watching last night and then wayne asking the rookie makes a serious statement should he be the starter in d._c. We've got answers to those and other questions. It's a football friday on get up starting right. Komo delighted that you were here with us. Thank you for getting up and starting your day georgia's back same finishing up a terrific week and this is going to be good rex ryan mcdonagh signals. All wrecks wants to know is one. Do i get to talk about daniel jones. He's been my six o'clock this morning but we will begin with. Are they very quick. Run the hurry up five games last night one big takeaway rex. What was your so the baltimore. Ravens will never lose a preseason game. If you're counting at home that's fifteen straight wins in the pre season why because they play their offense and their defense they don't make any apologies they just slide up and kick your tail all right. We have lamar jackson highlights. Meanwhile coming your way in a moment george one big takeaway last night. Sam darnold is an absolute stud. He was straight dealin. When he's a star in the making i saw everything i needed to pocket movement to accuracy to poise until he looked as good as anybody. I would like those twenty seconds to be my new ringtone. I the big takeaway last week. After the first game for the cardinals. I was really excited. I feel equally as concerned this week after clean that offense last night i said yesterday i wanted to see cuyler murray under pressure in the n._f._l. We saw it last night and it did not go well. They looked is pretty lost and he may have issues across the board. I'm getting a little nervous full highlight coming your way in a moment meanwhile my big takeaway was not about sam darnold from the jet that game last night for the defense. They had to get matt ryan out of their wrecks or the jets. Were going to hurt him. The jets are getting pressure on the quarterback and they're doing it just by rushing their front four and they're playing without one of of their better defensive linemen and leonard williams so far two p._c.'s and games. The jet defense looks very good. Okay those are takeaways now. Let's get to the actor. Let's start with the number one pick. This is marie and the cardinals second preseason game nowhere near as efficient or effective as the first jordan. Take a look here is murray is trying to keep it in. They're forcing him to the sidelines well. They keep saying we haven't really shown our offense yet but that's a little glimpse of what it's gonna be zone reading. He's going to be running around wrecks. They are blitzing him last night and he did not look like he liked liked it. No they don't like it. You better have more than one protection. You know this air raid or whatever it's going to be like <hes> you're gonna get quarterback smoke. This is two plays later in that is not an accurate throw their from kyle murray now. Here's a big story line coming out of last night to talk about it. In a minute. They're gonna call full starts not once but twice on collar murray clapping his hands and that you see it right there. That's the first false start of the game because of the snap clap and in the second driver would be called for it again flagged for for clapping his hands to demonstratively you will see clip kingsbury here talking to the officials trying to figure out exactly what's going on. These conversations began before the game began. Rex will explain what it all means coming up in just a moment in the meantime wanna show you this. This is murray's final drive of the game and down. He goes in his endzone for a safety lamarcus joyner with the tackle and then afterwards listen to lamarcus joyner with our lisa saulters on the sidelines pretty football it don't allow the defense. It's the play physical like the game was meant to be so you know what you're going. Gets offers like that. You have to introduce that physicality because they don't wanna do that. You make it your mission to do you one run out of the n._f._l. Oh those are look at the smile of come aw come on out of just show me the face of wrecks right now because there is not a happier man in america rini basketball on grass. It's so boring watching all this this stuff right there. I mean come on college football. I hope it gets smoke. Also i really do because. I think it's so boring boring. It is boring. One got all this kind of stuff. I mean we're going to see a ah. Kingsbury says wait till week one. Oh i can't wait to see we want will week. One look like that. It'll be different from last night nothing they're going to get. We're gonna get whip problem. Look this guy. Everybody talks about this great offense and all that yeah if you like if it's fantasy football and you want points and you know hey yardage. That's that's great. How 'bout wins all right. Let's face. It had the best player in our league. He was thirteen and sixteen with pat mahomes a quarterback in kyle. How but you worry about wins yeah so that that's what i'm seeing. Go back to the one protection piece of this because that's what you're talking about. In our meeting this morning there blitzing they're playing different defenses and he basically ugly is in one protection offensive right and that's why that that open edge pressure. You're going to see it all day. Long and teams are going to keep doing it. Their answer is too quick little hitch inch screen or slant and all that well guess what the routes the d._v._d.'s. You're gonna know that they're going to be sitting on these guys. They're going to challenge them. Get in the face of these receivers levers and they're in for a long long season and they better get that running game going over there. They're going to get run out of town and i was saying i wanna get your thoughts on this. In a minute but first we need to explain waiting for the audience who may not have seen it business with the clapping of the hands jordan. This was a very big story. Coming out of last night to fall starts for this. We quarterbacks clapping their hands all the time back. What made this a penalty but it's a rule plain and simple. I mean that's the rule. You can't do that in my quarterback. Mike how's that different than pay meaning getting snapping doing this. You know from the gun one but it's a rule so it's something you have to communicate a rookie head. Coach has got to know that rookie quarterback has got to know as well. I don't necessarily agree with it. I don't think it was too demonstrative at all but but that's not the rule though the rule to me the way i saw it was that it can't be abrupt. Lily clap now. Maybe we need zoom in but thank again the little completely it's ticky tack but literally is as he's doing this. It's the clap he's doing this. It's not if you know what i mean. It's what they call. The delays the greenie the league clearly cinemas. We don't want to see this garbage. He'll all this stuff. That's it come on. Let's get rid of it right now and don't give me all this stuff. You're right. Those two are a great example same. I totally agree with you as soon as they don't care. They were gonna throw those flash because we've seen a guy go like this. We've seen it and it's been a rule well for one hundred years in this league so to me. They sent them at say listen. We don't need all this this stuff well listen. I've been watching football. One time. I've in quarterback clap their hands back there particularly if the play clock is running down and they're clapping saying get me the snapback here so obviously there's something different about this drew. Brees had an issue with this at one point as well. They believe that it is attempt to draw the defence off side and that's essentially what they're called exactly greenie. I mean because they're doing it. It's not just like a natural rhythm which she did the rest of the game. It's when they're trying too hard count but then she'll judy gunn because you're allowed to do it from under center you can head bobby. You can get loud and demonic but he's always the guy got an explanation for this at some point and we'll see it being a problem. Meanwhile sam ponder for those of you don't know she's from phoenix cardinals fan. Gimme your your takeaway from last night on your level of concern. It's hard because at the end of the day we all know it's preseason okay so every time we overreact either way when he played great in week one. We were all super excited. Everything's great then we do. He struggles a little bit. The biggest concern to me is between the ears jordan. We've talked about this. I'm not concerned about about kyla murray between the this is a confident dude. I don't think this is the same situation they had last year with josh rosen because i think that rattled him early. I don't think that's that's gonna be the case all right. Let me give you the numbers here. The cardinals final tally last night with kyle murray at quarterback fifteen plays negative thirteen yards. He threw for just twelve twelve yards on eight attempts after acting up forty four passing yards on seven attempts in his one series in the preseason opener so tough night for him. Let's move forward. Let's talk about sam sam darnold. I'm renaming my children after him and the opening drive last night was the reason why this is good stuff. Jordan did tell me what you're seeing here. This is a dime to a non. I love the subtlety of movement getting his feet said. This is something he hasn't done. It didn't do last year. He couldn't complete balls in tight coverage. This was the first completion now the second completion step it up in the pocket doc come into balance on a back shoulder on a dime to robbie anderson there. You take another look at it. You see the zip in the arm. We don't see a lot of in this highly. He's moving very nicely in the pocket just enough to buy and sell time. This is third short in the red zone. That's a first down completion arabi anderson who took a big hit the defender was actually injured on the play and then they wind up scoring on this handoff to montgomery who has been very good in preseason games. We still haven't seen levy on bell in all darnold five seven forty six yards in three series and the jets wind up winning last night darnold completing two passes on his first drive that were fifteen more yards down field and into tight window which means less than a yard of separation he i was just four thirty two all last year on throws like that so at least so far so good rex ryan your thoughts on what we saw last night i'd say don. I'm seeing a guy that has has improved his game by leaps and bounds. That's why they brought in. Adam gates to to really work with this guy mentor this quarterback and you see it fundamentally. Jordan ari talked about it. I mean you see the way the subtle movements in the pocket his poise when the when the russia's coming and still making those those throws in tight windows so so if you're a jet fan which i am you know obviously you can't be more happy and more excited about his performance. Four throws like this all year your last year and you had to in his first two attempts last night. His fundamental is what we're talking about is in college dropout ball really low which has a quarterback can throw off your timeline. I mean if you're mechanics and makes you less accurate downfield. He's tightened up. Those mechanics is less of a dip in his throwing motion. He's more secure in the pocket with that so i love what he's done in in this off season getting better green question for you here because i've seen the excitement every morning this week. I had seen excitement about these jets realistically. Though what are you thinking for this season. What is the ceiling for this team. How excited i'm not. I'm not gonna get crazy here. I think fifteen and one is not all ah in the a._f._c. east for generation. You're playing for second and rex you know it. I'm having coach both jets and the bills. Everyone in the world is chasing new england lend and they probably won't catch them but i do think the jets are vastly improved. They have a good defense. They've got a bunch of good players on that defense major questions at corner and rex. No one knows better did you how how damaging that can be to defense. We'll see if they can overcome that but they get pressure. They got a bunch of good players up the middle of the defense and most importantly this is the best quarterback back at least to this point that the jets have had in my lifetime and jordan. I know you have some tape. You wanna show here of some of the things you saw from. Donald that last night was very tom brady esque in the pocket and what i mean but if you don't have to be an athlete right to move in create separation in space stepping up in the pocket instead of continuing to step up he pauses gathered himself come to balance and that's why he's more accurate you're going to see here. The pocket starts to collapse on him and pushed him backwards. He sees me into men covered. The linebacker actor moves with the motion so we know this may the man but right here. He checks the safety to make sure that let's let's double. Check its man. Where am i going with the ball but then the pocket starts. It's the collapse on him. You're gonna see here watch his feet. It's free get perpendicular to the sideline there and then at the last second he readjust to get his base in his balance back and that's why he he was accurate. That's why he wasn't last year and these are the things that he's doing this year and again. Watch this steps up in the fox but instead of stepping up two or three inches and running into a problem he stops after after one hitch gathers himself ready to throw he's balance and he's accurate based equals balanced balanced equals accuracy for a quarterback and procacci makes the difference any stake into it and that's that's the thing you're seeing. This is from year one year two. These are the strides you hope your quarterback makes and the fact acted he's doing it. I can't be more excited about this well. I think they are going to challenge the patriots. Oh hey now personal yet. Bell hasn't been up there yet. We haven't seen levy on bell. Oh yet we'll see again. There are question marks across the roster. This is a team that was four and twelve a year ago so let's not get crazy but so far so good for oriented i would go fifteen to one all right. We also have another rookie quarterback last night saying so after the first week of the preseason people really excited about kyle really excited about daniel jones question marks about haskins but right here under pressure guys look at then fell in love him yes. He's gotten our i love rex ryan brown and brown now he's done. That's all you had to do all right another look right here. I mean i love this pressure and his face was a quarterback you start start to speed up your thought process but he notices that the safety and the receiver are even and what do we know it's quarterbacks. If you're even you're leaving he anticipated. He let the ball go in one portland. He trusted trusted what he saw which he didn't do last week with those intercepts got jay gruden excited there he would struggle later though in the shotgun hold on a little too long all right. Let's go to the third quarter. This is going to be an overthrow and guys just happens every n._f._l. Quarterback is that something you're concerned about rex with him though well no not as much with with any type of throwing mechanics what i'm worried about is him this this spot right here. You've got to step in the pocket avoided. Put the ball in your front shoulder when you step up in the fog and he doesn't do that never did it in college either so to me. I'm a little concerned with this young man finish seven for fourteen one hundred fourteen eighteen yard touchdown here you just play <hes> not really like conscious of making a mistake twice in the moment i mean before the game like mago macarthur toothpicks again so i mean that's what i thought and i didn't so i was good. <hes> i think i was just a little bit more settled down this last week i was. I thought it was more in my element today. Dwayne wayne shows flashes. You know there's a couple balls probably rushed a little bit you know. I think you missed a couple of shots. He rushed a little bit didn't put enough around her but you know this is all process for him. It's fun to watch him right now. He's just a work in progress. He's going to get better and better when i heard him right there. Rex say that he shows flashes. It reminded reminded me of you and louis riddick last year saying flashes get a guy fired. That always makes me a little bit nervous. He's looks like a work in progress but you gotta say i mean those those chunk yardage throws. He's been great nine at yards per attempt as you can see right there so let's talk about him. I mean what did you see in that game that that makes you think maybe he can be starting quarterback. I we all know he's got the talent number one and he's got that big body all that kind of stuff. He's supposed to be a really smart young man so those are the real positives. Look i was with this team for a couple of days and quite honestly i really he liked this team and i got a lot of ability but he couldn't find black union. Feel the white mice so to me. That's a concern we saw him. I can see her that office. Who seven interceptions the first day of practice the second day but i will say this. I think it was more. I loved her defensive. Trust me. I love the redskin defense. I think this team is going to be good. I think this guy is going to get better. The more you play him. He needs to play and i think that's why to me. I'm thanking you know hey we gotta play from jump and these interceptions he saw last week is is weren't going the right spot. He is not understanding the coverage throwing over here overthrew that into the wrong coverage previously plunked linebacker in man coverage. Just wasn't seen it right what we saw last night some overthrow some physical mistakes. I'm actually okay with the physical mistakes as long as the ball right. Now is going to the right receiver if he's seen it right. We know we can complete a ball forty. Five yards downfield on the sideline. I wanna make sure it's going to the right spot and last night it was gonna make sure i'm hearing what you're saying correctly. If it was your decision you would start in week. One yeah i would absolutely jay talked about the flashes and all that kind of stuff look. I think there's so many positives about this guy but i don't think he's going to get there until you play. 'em like these next two weeks playing the heck out of this kid exactly what i have but i'm encouraged with some of the things i see but i also realize it is a work in progress. He's already played a lot more snaps than any of the other rookie quarterback's through the beginning of this preseason. Let they get up and go here. I got a million places. I wanna take up with the packers. They sat aaron rodgers last minute last night with back tightness. Is that a big deal to you. Rex ryan no back tightness because because they saw the ravens played defense. Why would you get your. Why would you get your your quarterback. It is not going to run out for you. They're going to run their defense. Your quarterback is going to get hit. So why would you get rid of the best player in a league. That's an extremely good point. You mentioned the ravens of one fifteenth straight preseason games get up and go to baseball late drama in philly alibi bryce harper last night a walk off grand slam warring those old classic younis bought of nine derek colin capping a six-run rally the fills come from behind to win at seven five and sweep the cubs in three games harper seven home runs and fifteen rbis in his last twelve. The celebration was wild at the plate. Now it's been a down season overall for bryce harper but he has been one of the best clutch hitters in the sport. He has a win probability added a four point eight at his fourth best among on all hitters this season that is a staff that takes into account things like the score the winning the outs and the baserunners. This was awful yesterday from the n._b._a. I'm sure by now you've seen it. That's aftermarkets cousins tearing his a._c._l. In his left knee and a pick up game in vegas does availability for all of next year is jeopardy. You got hurt working out reaction to the news pouring in from around the sport yesterday out his injury <hes>. I'm really at a loss words about it. <hes> you know as one that really hurt me for sure he's been through hell last couple of years <hes> between the achilles playoff injury with squad and how al now the a._c._o. That we should have to deal with that in such a short period of time so we're all thinking about him. Everybody jim was talking about it today. Definitely hoping for the best for demarcus but we're all just demoralized for them art long since one of these plates of <unk> avenue these amazing sees molly like that her game like a fight come back in shape order do devastating injury history for a guy and demarcus cousins who was at one point on the verge of a two hundred million dollar the contract and now with all of these injuries with the achilles now the wonders exactly where his career is as we speak all right a remarkable remarkable story yesterday incredibly frightening pictures that had a remarkably happy ending dale earnhardt junior and his family were involved in a very frightening plane crash crash after their small plane rolled off the end of a runway and caught fire after landing at an east tennessee airport. You see the smoke and all of that there. I can tell you right off the bat at that. No one was seriously injured. Everyone on board which included earnhardt his wife amy their fifteen month old daughter and two pilots escaped serious injury suffering. Only cuts is an abrasions. His manager tells marty smith family headed back to their home by car. The national transportation safety board is investigating the crash. We will be having much more just moment here on get up antonio brown and uniform for the raiders last night how his presence will impact derek carr and the raiders future. That's on the way the next and another eye-opening wipe for lamar jackson. Oh we'll explain why his highlight reel runs may hurt his team this season all that more. We're just getting started. I get up on e._s._p._n. Get up is brought brought to you by new york life. We know that life doesn't fit into any one plan so start with the plan that flexes with yours all right huge half power coming your way here on get up including antonio brown is peculiar off season is over house impact on the field. It'll be worth the distractions. Aw was why the mark jackson highlight reel runs may actually cause problems for his own team and rex knows defense. He'll give us his list of the five best in the sport all that more in this hour. It's let's get on e._s._p._n. At indeed we believe resume is a great way way to see an overview of a candidate but you're not hiring a resume. You're hiring person. That's why indeed offers tools that help bridge the gap between a candidate and the resume like skilled test fast which lets you actually see a candidate's abilities and action to make sure they're a good fit for the job. See beyond the resume with indeed experience indeed for yourself today and get a free sponsor sponsor job upgrade on your first posting at indeed dot com slash promo terms and conditions apply back on get up on the show you some video the raiders in the cardinals last night. We showed you arizona. What does antonio brown. He's got that hat that he wears during pre game and then he's got a different hat one. He might actually replay it. He wouldn't play the game but he would be as sort of active on the side. I knew first quarter. Let's talk about what we see here. Jordan the raiders offense the running josh jacobs and they're throwing it with jericho. I think this is the formula they want. Jon gruden wants to run the football. He wants to have conceptually sound concepts off that he wants to play action. I think he's in the right situation. Derek carr derek cars understanding the why behind what group calling here is cars second completion. You saw both of them. He was two for two on the night forty yards and touchdown in his only drive and then take a look on the sideline. You will see car and antonio brown seemed to be having fun. Developing a little chemistry raiders raiders are go onto win thirty three twenty six encouraging and it's great to have him back in all it's been a strange strange couple of weeks with <hes> frostbite and <hes> the helmet grievance can't say that that's that's common at least in my history in this league. Ah we've weathered the storm. It's great to see him out there. His teammates appears to be in great spirits and here's like he's ready to get going here so s san antonio brown we're excited about. I'm excited about him. I could care less than anybody else. I'm excited. I'm not talking about it anymore. It was a legal legal certified helmets. Somebody's approved or he wouldn't have worn on john's face and we got to know john over all the work <hes> pity s._p._n. He's he's done with that but he does sound happy to have him there and all the rest of it so i would ask you antonio brown and all of these sort of off the field stuff that he brings which is already brought. He hasn't even played yet. Is it ultimately going to be worth. Oh absolutely i mean look. I'd sign up for this guy at a new york minute. I will say this. Let's look as a coach. You want. The boy scouts of america monday through saturday sunday. Give the guy would lead lead pencil because i i wanna be i wanna win. You beat them with the boy scouts so to me no chance i would love this guy and the great thing is groom was side by side with them stood by them. I think that's gonna help their relationship moving forward and and i i'm expecting big how about the relationship jordan jordan between brown and his new quarterback. I think that was the best thing i saw. Nobody can dispute the fact that he is a playmaker. He's a game changer when he's on the field. I think the problem has been at times. There's you know rumblings of cancer in the locker. Room is detrimental to the team. I think he's making a concerted effort to prove that wrong. I think he realized that this whole helmet gates situation and everything that's going on off. The field is kind of looking not good so i think he's realizing that you know what i'm going to be a positive impact. I'm gonna prove everybody wrong. He knows it can play doubt out and i think it's a great thing for the raiders because i think they're still trying to evaluate derek carr and his future is going to be there a long time. He needs his guy think having a weapon like that can help them accurate you making okay the point that a guy like gruden. It has a leg up on. Maybe every other coach in the n._f._l. Dealing with players like it's almost like you're dealing with the owner. I mean this guy's got a ten year contract contract so he's going to have the most stroke of any coach in this league outside a ballot check of course but anybody else on my gosh so to me. It's great and you don't watch money. They talk about this kid being a cancer and all that he wants the football. Yes and you know what if you're that good. You should get them the football and has gone. I wanna wanna guidelines yeah and that's that we can't pretend that there weren't other things going on as we've seen a lot of receivers who want the football right there. Obviously it went next level with him or the steelers aren't getting rid of a player of his talent. That said you watch the raiders. At least you look at the names on the backs of the jerseys. They got a lot of players in oakland right they do and they got some young talent. We saw the running back. Look great. You're going to see what you added to your team only one of the best receivers in the league i mean he's definitely in the conversation so to me. That's a huge positive. You're right you get car out there. Who is he throwing last year. They bring up a williams. He makes the great kenny fifty one times. He was on his back last year. I think forget just how good derek carr has been right. He's got protection in front of him now. He's got a weapon to help them out. It's important to point out that it's sort of a fresh start for the raiders after this season right and they moved to vegas and they don't know derek carr any money that year if they don't want to so it is a year of decision to be made with their quarterback. We'll see where it goes. Let me go to my next game here. Let's talk about lamar jackson and the baltimore ravens last night and take a look here a little play action jordan from lamar jackson the big question in his accuracy yeah but this is. This is a layup throw right here. That's that's par pop one route. That's an eight yard slant route. You'd better be able to complete this <hes> but this is they've managed. Skillset short easy rose against off covers. That's now vis play. It doesn't count because a penalty flag is thrown but i'm not sure any other quarterback in history scores on this. Are you kidding me. Maybe mike vick nam and that's it those two and you're right. That's what this guy is special. In that that area it gets rolled back as you see there but look at the moves it's ridiculous and then the speed more up over you and i think people realize he has he would finish six ten fifty eight yards ran it twice for fourteen yards again. That doesn't wind up. Counting ravens would win. We mentioned they never losing the preseason. They won. Fifteen straight preseason games and accuracy is at the top of the list just for where he needs to get better. Only josh allen had a worse off target percentage among the thirty eight quarterbacks who qualified last year still jackson was six and one as this teams starter last year and one of taking them to the playoffs. I know you jordan are very skeptical on the mark jackson to take it to the next level rex. Why do i have a suspicion. You are not not because i look at it this way greenie and i certainly agree when jordan and i were talking about it. It's like hey this isn't you're not looking at a pocket passer sure by any stretch of the imagination but he's a winner in when i look at it this way here and more winston baker mayfield played half the games at all. We want to talk about. It's a great baker is and i get a skill set is traditional pocket quarterback you know. Is there some questions yes his deep ball. Accuracy is oh my gosh whereas it but i see a guy can't run the ball x amount of times. He doesn't know that and i can tell you what he's a full-fledged man from from underneath the from his waist down. This is a huge huge man so yeah look. Hey is the accurate now. Is there things that he needs to get better at. Absolutely you know one thing is when he's outside outside the pocket. You would think he'd be super dangerous but it's fundamentals. You've got to chop your feet outside the pocket he doesn't do that and that's why not act okay so here's how well i know i have been following you. From the day became the head coach of the jets. You always hated scheming against the mobile quarterbacks and that's why you always talk about them the way you do it comes from a legitimate commonplace. The question is you have to be able to throw it at least a little can. He throw it enough to be dangerous enough to be affect. He absolutely i mean he certainly can look steve young digitally. He's not a low steve young okay. When he came in the league he was all over the place he became the most accurate. If you're a quarterback one of the most active quarterbacks in history of our game. That's not going to have lamar jackson but it doesn't have to. He can do other things that can get it done. Does he have to get better. Oh you're absolutely but it's fundamentals. He's over strides in a pocket. He's never gonna be accurate that way and then he's gotta. Chocolates feed outside thought yeah. I think this run right here as sexy as it was. I think it was the worst thing for lamar jackson. If anybody needed a reminder that he can't be dynamic with his legs but we saw the formula of how to beat them in the playoff game last year the chargers had seventy bs on the field for one reason or another they play zone coverage. They sat back. They kept them in one spot and said you the accurate for four quarters and you know what he couldn't be so i am a firm believer that you don't just become more accurate all of the sudden in the n._f._l. It doesn't get the easier when you miss wide open throws like that that worries me when team start to figure him out. I take everyone is all excited to see what the calorie arizona offense looks like. I'm very interested to see what john harbaugh has cooked up and he keeps talking about our offense is going to look different from things that you've seen in the past. I'm very curious to everyone forgets. They won the division. World is anointing the cleveland browns and maybe they will be great. The ravens are the defending division champs. We will see what they become much more football as we go right now sam pen and chase baseball baseball right let's do it. Let's run the bases. The indians exploded for nineteen runs in the bronx. Last night's pummelling the yankees nineteen five jose ramirez and carlos santana both both were deep twice and all nine indian starters had two hits according to elias. It's only the second time cleveland has done that in franchise history with the only other other instance being in nineteen six for the first time in m._l._b. History both leagues got their first forty homer player on the same day cody bellinger. I i forty in the n._f._l. See went deep in the dodgers loss in miami thursday afternoon. Then mike trout launched his fortieth homer late last night in the angels eight eight two seven win over the white sox. Meanwhile in atlanta mets rookie slugger. Pete alonzo tied cody bellinger's n._l. Rookie record with his thirty nine th homer of the season in the mets ten to eight win over the braids alonzo went five five with six r._b._i. On the night as he reached the fountain way out and center honor at suntrust park for the second time this season on his record time glass after all the action the phillies and the mets each will the game closer the second wildcard spot. The cubs are also jockeying for position atop the n._f._l. Central with the cardinals lost by a run to the reds last night. The nationals host the brewers. There's this weekend with major layoff picture implications today on e._s._p._n. We'll have an opening round quadruple header for you from the little league world world series starting at ten a. m. eastern with rhode island and virginia then at one eastern. It's minnesota taking on kentucky followed at four eastern by louisiana and hawaii breath and then new jersey organ at seven. All four games are live on e._s._p._n. And the e._s._p._n. App still to come on get up khalil mack and the bears defense carried chicago to the n._f._c. north title last season rex ryan's gonna break it all down and tell you where they list among n._f._l.'s. How's five positive coaches can make a lasting impact on young athletes this. We want to be someone they can count on someone they can look up to. There's been times when i've had kids struggling and then you have to work with them and they start to become really confident and then they blossom into this great thing that they never envisioned that they could be. You feel really good about it. You feel sense of satisfaction that you help someone to go. All the bad visit project play dot u._s. to give sports back to kids all right back on get up time for for some sneaky big news bengals rookie quarterback ryan finley went twentieth twenty six for one hundred fifty yards and two touchdowns in their win over washington and jordan. You think andy dalton looking over your shoulder. I think absolutely i mean before last season's college football season. A lot of people thought he could be a first round and we look at the scouting report is accurate manipulates nicholas of defense but this is is a great understanding progressions. You saw that on the field. He's accurate. He can play football from the pocket. Which is something you can't say a lot about a lot of guys. The first couple of games in preseason. Let alone has rookies in the n._f._l. So he keeps me inefficient absolutely at some point when they drafted him. They said he could be the guy at some point. He was the fourth round. Let's be honest. Everybody's always looking over their shoulder and this goes. The eagles lost another backup. Quarterback is cody. Kessler suffered a concussion early in the first quarter again again. The jags rookie clayton thorson stepped in and went sixteen of twenty six for one hundred and seventy five yards with a touchdown and a pick but rex how concerned earned should be a quarterback death behind carson well. I think you're gonna be concerned that why are all these guys get knocked out yeah. Maybe you need to be concerned about up that let alone the whoever that guy happens to be. Let's tighten up the protection a little bit well. Let's talk a little bit more about this because obviously this was a huge you move this off season. Not deciding to pay nick foles. He goes to jacksonville. Obviously there are people that are on one side of the other in terms of carson wentz and nick foles. We know what he did in philly but jordan does this become even more concerning. You've got a quarterback who was an m._v._p. Candidate he's been proven but he's also been proven and to be injured. Quarterback philly's got to be a concern right. Quit wreck said here is in first off. You gotta understand why this is happening. What were the protection breakdowns. Why are quarterbacks getting hit. Is it something that carson wentz is going to be able to race and take care of it the line of scrimmage that our backups just can't do or do we have a problem upfront because is absolutely carson. Wentz is a guy here. He's not willing or i mean. He is willing to take risk. He's willing to put his body on the line so much of a competitor he is but if you do that you better be confident often it with who got behind him and right now. It's nobody. I guess they're lucky that rex's in the league anymore because he'd be sitting in the house and got to try to get that guy outta there. I was carson wentz. Let's face it. I mean sam. You talked about an m._v._p. Candidate he was the m._v._p. Of the league and he got hurt then nick foles steps into the regular season by the way replays horribly but when they get into the playoffs now we take you to a different level so we'll see but to me most of the time always thought that was an overrated possession backup quarterback who needs one into you absolutely have to play them and that's what you're seeing you know falls takes them to a super bowl. You know we've seen it happen in a few times so yes. It is important but i think that big picture about why is it happening. Do we need to keep more people in the protection especially with carson wentz you. We can't afford to get this guy super bowl team with them if they use the level that he's capable of all right well. We just got to see if they can keep healthy. They better although last time he got hurt. It works out all right for their team. Although nick foles of course now in jacksonville ended over to greenie all right because of rex ryan is going to be here. We have to talk about defence. Let's take a look at the top scoring defenses last year beginning with dabo bears they gave up a league low seventeen point seven points a game also the lowest opponent q._b._r. And fewest yards per play while forcing a league best thirty-six turnovers. They were the best defense in the sport. The ravens were second. They gave up seventeen point nine again. Thanks giving up a league low two hundred ninety three yards per game in the second lowest q._b._r. Behind only the bears and then the titans were the third best s. t. fence in the sport particularly good in the red area allowing a touchdown just forty five percent of red zone drives. That was the second best rate in football so those were the numbers from a year ago. Now we have rex ryan ready to do his first ever fundamentalist up and the list is going to be the top five. You believe it will be the five best defense in the n._f._l. This coming year who's at number five well. The person's going to surprise you because i'm taking the green bay packers what they did. They added five starters to a decent defense. They needed help in their patrol. The safeties they added a first round pick in a big <unk> time free agent same thing they needed pass rushers upfront. They've got two young free agent guys. They spent fifty million dollars in the off season upgrading it and then by the way draft two first rounders on on defense. I like their defense. I think they're gonna make some huge. Strides isn't as a team that has asked aaron rodgers to carry them for four years so shoring up a huge all right. Who's your fourth best defense this year best defense screening when i look at it. It's going to be the chargers so when when i see it the chargers is right here. I know my son coaches. We'll guess what they're going to be healthy with joey bosa. He only played like six games last year a healthy joey bosa with melvin kevin ingram in irwin james and company. It's a ball hockey team to start with. I love their defense very physical last year. People forget just how good the season they had. They were right there with kansas city pretty much all year long all right that's five and four hooge accident number three the washington redskins. What how the heck in this happened. I love the redskins look up front. They got the bama boyz the bama brothers and all that kind of stuff up front. You got to good edge guys. You know ryan kerrigan but they are loaded. They have to monsters in the back in the edition of landon collins to this defense. I think is tremendous. I love their cornerbacks. I love the death that corner so i think this team not they could be a good defense. They could be dominant defense and there's one reason at least why they will be extremely well coached. What is now well coached. We all know why my my brother happens to be there. That team is going to be well. Coached shoulders reort you all these guys. I think it's gonna be a great number three. Who's the number two defense in the n._f._l. This coming yeah. That's a good question green exact for god who put up there. I'm just kidding. Baltimore ravens the baltimore ravens fan. I never knew how to go one or one eight so i put baltimore at two <hes> but boy wink martindale defense coordinator there. They do a fantastic job. Everybody's concerned but they lost this player that but they also added rolltop nuts are. Are you kidding lead to that back in their tremendous they get after they put pressure on your sin five six seven guys off the bus. That's how they play defense. They've had a tradition there and the tradition continues yeah and every single year players come players go. That defense remains extraordinarily going suggs no longer there. There's been those rumors about them possibly getting g._w. On cloudy but that would be a very expensive addition if they would make it all right and at number one at number one. It's gotta that'd be the bears the bears last year the most dominant defense in the league khalil mack and company bright their team hicks the big nose tackle but they they get takeaways. They get pressure on the quarterback so they have it all right there by the way the only thing missing is is vic fangio. Yeah you know but chuck gonna was with <hes> vic for awhile all that kind of stuff. We were all together. <hes> you know in baltimore days and stuff like that and what chuck's going to do is say. Oh here's here's <hes> vis game plan. Blow the dust off that let's run it again and that's all you need to do but this defense from the front to the back the most talented defense like i mentioned at the beginning they gave up the fewest it was point and they forced the most turnovers that is an extraordinary combination and it does feel even though you're a defensive guy at heart. The league is so slanted towards offense. Now that what you're looking for on on defense plays teams that will make big place. Take the ball away. Give your offense. A short field a couple of times a game. Even if you give some point if you can make big plays and the bears defense does yeah well they absolut- they do that greeny look the rain is last year gave up less than three hundred yards a game so you could still you know you don't have to give a ton of yardage arctic and all that but all these teams have something in common every one of them's aggressive and i think they don't just sit back and play one coverage one in front all the time. They're aggressive. They're trying to dictate to the offenses and that's what i love about. The other thing they have in common is that four of the five of them have coaching. They came from the rex ryan treating that's that was not a coincidence as list is being put together. Well done tonight. Sportscenter after the little league world series with the very latest on a tight end wildcard race highlights of daniel jones is the giant space to bears and what team u._s._a. Basketball can take away from their tuneup against spain sportscenter tonight ten eastern on e._s._p._n. And e._s._p._n. App about candy guys feast your eyes on this. Do you want to see a guy. Take it to the house bengals and skins andy dalton throws it up. Montaigne nicholson is bringing it back. This is a ninety six yard interception return for a touchdown. That's only i can't eat iraq. There's three well. Coach is a linebacker getting his hand on. Go ahead robbo but this deep it look at that guy. He talked about him. Him rex's fired that we continue collar. Murray dwayne haskins both on the field last night either of them ready for the start of the regular season. We've we've got that and more on e._s._p._n.

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Hour 2: Biggest Week 1 NFL Disappointments

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Hour 2: Biggest Week 1 NFL Disappointments

"We welcome you to another hour of get up. We come to you live from above the Heineken River deck at pier seventeen. I am greedy that is Rex Ryan who is back and better than ever Dan. Orlovsky is whether it's this morning Ryan Clark is with us this morning as we look back on what was a very interesting day one of the NFL season and we get up with them cowboy this morning the and Stanford did you see that call or did they get robbed? We'll answer both those questions. Then Tampa Tom Looks disgusted after a disheartening debut. What exactly happened to an option that should be much. Better, meanwhile, Brady's old team with its new quarterback looking very comfortable week one is cam writing the beginning to a successful second act. We got all the answers as we get up with you starting right now with the game of the night at brand new. So Five Stadium Rams, cowboys, SOM- rams players taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem cowboys owner, Jerry Jones standing, of course, with his hand over his heart as was to be expected the cowboys all safe for one would stand during the playing of the national anthem through the actually go early second quarter cowboys down seven nothing and rex here comes Zeke. Can't stop this guy right here. Fleet back there it is. Makes a great. I mean, look at most backs take that thing out of bounds for about three yard game. Guy Special. House twenty two carries for ninety six yards for Zeke feed. Me says the Tattoo on his stomach ran into. With him all the way he'd be third quarter ram down fourteen thirteen but not for long Robert Woods has really emerged wrecks in this offense really has this right here I. Think he's one of the most underrated players in the league. I had a chance to coach this guy in Buffalo and I should have done a better job. He had six catches for one hundred five yards, and now here's Malcolm Brown taking it in for a score had eighteen carries seventy nine yards. That's his second touchdown rams up six twelve minutes left cowboys down three, four, thousand, three. They don't kick the field goal rex of not analytics analytics out there in a stack of paper. Guy Lee analytic rex hates the analytics turn it over but they will get one more chance until here's the play we will be talking about that's Dak. this is Michael Gallup fluids a forty seven yard gain hold everything offensive pass interference take another look rex is it a good call garbage call right here Greenie I mean come on dude great by press Gallup to ease even he's leaving jalen Ramsey knows it smart kid from Brentwood Tennessee, but he's it's an acting job that is a defensive minded coach saying that it is a bad call. Albouy. It's. Meanwhile, it sets up this Dak last-gasp. No good. That would throw for sixty six and a score golf to seventy five in a pick. But in the end, it's the rams with the win in Orlando. Talking about was the offensive pass interference. Was Clear as day if they wouldn't have called that I would've been. Highly upset So it was clear in my opinion. Johnson but I said, that's what I feel that they're just watching it live. It looked like two guys hand fighting thought it was well executed I was I was surprised was a call there either way so very obviously disappointed in the call. Karachi was the rap. He said I can tell you it was clear and obvious on the field of a hand into the opposing player full arm extension that created separation in all situations that would be called. We're not going to allow that at any time of the game. So you heard from REX defensive coach. I want to hear from the DB on my team Ryan. Clark was that a good call essentially decided the game. I think it's a good call. Listen Marcus Smart I. Mean Jalen Ramsey did an extremely good job selling the we obviously knew When you saw are mixed in jail and understood, he had got Michael. Gallup had gotten a little separation from him and you saw him do a flop but then he tried to finish the play I think and it's crazy I get a call right after somebody goes talk about DB's all the time he was like he wouldn't. He wouldn't flop in that situation. Jila wouldn't wouldn't do that. If he if he didn't think he didn't think he was pushing it wasn't acting I thought it was a little acting on the in, but you could see the. His chest the whole time then he extend and he gets a little space. Now, what you want to say is don't make that call or official swallow your whistle at this moment but that's not the way that football should work that call is rarely ever made, which is why people think it's a bad call but by the letter of the law Michael Gallo pushed off, it was open. and. Just as you can't let you don't want the flag to decide the game. You also don't want a penalty that goes uncalled to decide a game, and so that was the right call the rams win the game, and if you're Dallas and you got all these three thousand yard wide receivers and you got this great rusher and you got a new coach and Gary going, you should be winning the game by lot anyway. So it's your fault that I'm glad you. We've talked a lot about the call Dan Orlovsky, all the things that we could complain about from the cowboys offense yesterday or the same things. As last year, they're terrible on third down, they don't look explosive enough. They only scored seventeen points in his spot word feels that they should do a lot better Dan Orlovsky. In the cowboys offense last night that left us feeling disappointed. Vanilla, ice cream just way too basic way too generic in this is an offense that we've talked about the talent right I wanna see this ball first of all spread out more. Between all those weapons and then guys. You have to. On third down at the end of the game when you go. To end this vote. On hold their Cindy I'm sorry obviously, we're just look down here. You understand we're all just doing the best. We can hear unfortunately, the signal is just not cooperating. I'll come back to him as soon as they can meanwhile rex I know there was one other thing that really rubbed you the wrong way we touched on the highlight. Fourth. In three on the eleven, they decide to go forward their analytic suggest that you do instead of taking a field goal that would have tied it. Maybe it doesn't decide the game because the offensive pass interference but what do you think the? Yeah no I disagree with the decision in look analytics tells you to go for every fourth down. I mean I'm sorry analytics. This isn't pop warner. This is the national football league and I get it. If you think you have momentum or whatever you got a great matchup, then you go for it, you might consider it but you're over on third down conversions. So to me kick the thing in especially if you're the better team kick, the field goal tied the game up and play on. So to me there is everybody can say, oh no. No it isn't. You haven't converted a third down all day. So I'm sorry it's not the right call and it was a frustrating game. If you're rooting for the cowboys because all of the same things we complained about last year, we blamed all of them on Jason Garrett who just stood there smiled and spit as these games we're going on and we. decided he was the problem here they are a year later and the offense looks exactly the same same concerns we'll talk about it more as we go. I, want to get our Lobski back as soon as they can meanwhile bucks saints yesterday and that means of course, the debut of Tampa Tom still rex kind of hard to get used to seeing him in. Green. It doesn't make sense. He should always been in a new. England. Journal going up against that guy drew brees and very early Brady look good I drive I completion. This looks good. Yeah. Okay. Never mind it's okay to be in Tampa. A beautiful. Girl right there by brain and it sets this off. This is how the cap off the first drive taking it it himself and then the gronk spike which is closes really got the scene. gronk play a factor in this yesterday, and so he starts out good but then. It starts to get away from him a little bit meanwhile breeze to Alvin Kamara Camara tie the game at seven ensuing possession. This is where it goes. Wrong. This is going to be a pick over the middle whose fault is this play? For I mean it's hard to say it looks like it's the receiver because he stops and and it's either his fault or it's it's Brady's fault expecting him to continue either way. There's miscommunication someway and as as the the coach will say it's a an emmy but he doesn't say on which I it's often here's down seventeen seven at the half. So early third same score bucks back on offense. This is a terrible. Terrible playwright here, and it's a terrible play design. He's looking to his right. He comes back late in the down. To the wide fieldstone, an outright nobody should do that especially, three quarterback, the North Jenkins a pick six against Tampa wherever you heard that before following that bucks look into answer. Here's Brady. There's OJ. Howard. Brady his first touchdown pass the buck near. He was twenty three of thirty, six to thirty, nine, three total TV's. But the bucks are still down ten. Now it's a seven point game. This is breeze Mrs Jared Cook at a big play A. Forty six yard gain and that's going to set up Emmanuel Sanders for a big score. Yeah. Emmanuel Sanders. I was wondering where the heck the he disappeared adds to that saint offense until this drive but again, this is a guy right here. Expect him to be more featured as the year goes on thirty one, seventeen saints two and a half to play saints looking to run out the clock. Oh, they're running a trick play. This is straight Buddy Ryan. Love it right here. But if you're a Tampa Bay fan. WHO THEY'RE GONNA be mad all they're gonNA. Be Mad. They may have bigger problems. They lose thirty, four, twenty three. Let's talk. After the way we practice for the last two weeks would have never thought I'd see us. have. That made counties in turnovers basic mental air to really costs us when we got back into gaming coverage. So it's round one. We've lost round one and we'll get around to. I lost plenty of games in my career. So I know I don't like it, but it happens. So we got to better. Okay. So there you have it. Ryan we've not had a chance to get your impressions of this. What did you see yesterday from Brady in the buccaneers offense? Whoa, what you saw from the game was it looked like eighty three years of quarterback play going on, it looked geriatric it looked a little old. That's what I thought when watching the game from what was supposed to be two of the most explosive offenses in the NFL. Tom? Brady I all all season when we were coming up to this game that I thought he would struggle early thought that the saints were bad matchup defensively this is a team that can really menu up on the back end and they can rush for and get pressure. So this wasn't really the week I thought we'd see Tom Brady and this offense. Shot, he starts out early with the good. Then you see some of the Miss Communications, the interceptions thrown to Marcus Williams, you see Mike. Evans try to sit down Brady leads him of Phil. You also had the throw late in inside gecas takes it for pig six. When he throws their pick six I know right now James Winston sitting on the sidelines. Shoot I used to do the exact same thing. So when you watch Tom Brady, you expect him to get better. The one thing I wanted to look at this game is see was without Tom Brady having a mastery of offense without Tom Brady no ends out of everything. was He good enough physically to win was Tom Brady talented enough as a quarterback to overcome not necessarily knowing everything that goes on with this offense and he's not the is not the same the movement. In the pocket is not the same when you watch him and Rob Gronkowski yesterday. The first thing I thought was my goodness it is not two thousand and fourteen, and that's what the Tampa Bay buccaneers have to understand. This is not going to be we were going to get all of James's yards. All Jamie says explosion, all of Jamison talent minus two interceptions. You don't have James's explosion. You don't have James's arm talent you don't have James's fearlessness you may not get the turnovers. Yesterday, but you may not also may not be as good of a team offensively as far as the numbers go as far as explosive plays go as far as putting on putting points on the board go. So you have to be ready to play a different game if you're bruce areas this as old Tom. This is just the old town I that is so well said and look I said this last week not that what do I know? But I said last week Bruce. Arians. has to recognize this is a team that should play defense and run the football you got a running back room that's jam packed with good players you have a great not good but great defense they gave away points yesterday looked exactly like last year there's no risk it no biscuit thing. Or Lobski is back Dan. What did you see from the Tampa? And what do they need to do to fix it? see-saw listening to Tampa offense. Look like it was the first time for them ever to play together in. So it's going to take. Some time. There's a big difference between the second half performance in the first half performance I totally disagree thinking Tom Brady is not good enough or talented enough. This yesterday will be the best thing that happened to this offense yesterday will be the best thing because they will watch this tape and they sit there and go. Now I don't like this play Hey Mike Mike do not do that or Tom. This is this is the way I. See it. These are the first game reps. these guys have had to get there. Hey, Bruce Arians do not have thrown out to the field from the gun and the cash that's not my game, and so they just got really difficult conversations and be up front with each other. But this'll be the best thing that happened to this offense Washington next week they will be markedly better. They're gonNA have to be and we will see I have to leave it there. We have much more to get to on this RC I'll come back to you but we had so many things. I love. Always, leave them wanting more. We'll take a very quick break. We'll come back with much much more as we go comment up, it worked on Sunday but other Patriots ultimately making a big mistake with the way they're using Cam Newton. We'll talk about it and then new coach new season same old round why Daniel says Baker Mayfield asked change his mindset right now get up on ESPN. Back on get up on this NFL Monday Patriot dolphins we'd wondering what would this New England offense look like rex it looked like Cam Newton sure. Did right view throwback fooling. Big, Bang still get it done running extended his own record for most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback that was his fifty nine, and then here comes his sixtieth camp calling his own number on his way into the end zone play would be reviewed. It's good. That's fourteen, three, six minutes. The fourth now patriots looking to put this one away in a fourth down deep in Dolphin. 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They'll look Bill Jack Literally transformed this offense overnight Cam had thirteen designed Russia's called yesterday sixty, four yards, two touchdowns, Tom Brady. All of last season had just ten designed rushes all of which totaled just eighteen yards they were all quarterback sneak. So it's not news that this is a very different style of quarterback than what they have had Ryan Clark you're already laughing what did you see the concert had here in our first hour was that fifteen carries per game for Cam Newton is just not going to work over the course of a season what did you see yesterday and what do you think of that? I think coach said it right. If you're not using Cam Newton that way you are not trying to win with Cam Newton measure quarterback and that's the bottom line. That's the way that he's going to have to play ball and you try to live with that as long as you can as long as he can be healthy. When you look at this team, they're still not explosive on the outside. They started the game off run heavy and moved into the second half wooden was. And went to some RPO game with this is how they're going to have to play ball. This is the way that they are better offensively than they were down the stretch last year it's still the same weapons it still the same issues, but you have a quarterback that has a unique skill set that you can use Josh mcdaniels and Bill Belichick understood that and that's what they. Moved to the passing game will increase they will give him more but Cam. Newton's going to have to use his legs. This team is going to win you just hope he can try to avoid some of those big hits like we saw one of those touchdowns yesterday, Dan, you put together a tape. Let's take a closer look at what we saw from Cam in his first game. The. Biggest impact was in the run game greedy and I talked off season about how is going to be about the numbers, and then how is it going to be about the angles in the leverage that you can create Josh mcdaniels did a really good job of that. Just again matching that one on one in the box in even a defense puts more people up in the box to. Defend against you. You can match that they got seven guys, offense patriots in their boxer GonNa flip backside guard with the Dolphins at eight guys there. But I said, you can give one of those eight defenders to Cam. Newton they're gonNA give it to that defensive end to Cam Newton and what they do. That's the read for him. If he stays down inside hand this fall off the birkhead. We've got seven on seven in. It's a huge run for your offense. That's a big one that touchdown early on, you're going to slip this tight end up short-flax. He's GonNa crack down on that defensive end. The back is gonNA flow out to take the safety. You've now got numbers advantage full the tackle it's more difficult for that defense to see and now that tackles going on a defensive. Back, that sets down because it's men coverage easy touchdown designed by Josh mcdaniels. This is the Jacobi percent play from years ago flexed it back out linebacker comes inside. He's now got to communicate. You're GONNA, pull an offensive guard goes off at defensive end everybody flows with birkhead. You've created angles for that offensive. Lineman. To go get that defensive end the tight end runs off because it's men coverage. and. That's a big play for your offense and so all off we talked about the impact what was he going to be felt in most you saw it in the run game Josh mcdaniels will continue to evolve and be creative and make sure he gets a person for person and allow him to be himself. That's really well done and rex was nodding along as we were watching that but. Here's what I know. I know that defensive coaches like you. We're going to have one game plan going into playing them all year long and that is hit that guy right I mean every chance you get hit that guy and he took a lot of big hits yesterday no, he absolutely did and and the thing about him though is this is a giant now and that's the thing about. But you gotta come to your first priority is to make them throw. It sounds crazy but that's GONNA be your first priority take away the run game. Did you were you impressed with what you saw week one I mean obviously it was somewhat predictable but it was the fact I was impressed with Cam Newton and and the thing I was impressed with both most is he thinks he's healthy. That's why he runs the way does. So that's a great son. If you're a Patriot fan unfortunately, you got no receivers we'll see we'll see if they're able to be more explosive, you try and play ground and pound, which is near directs his heart, and meanwhile how about this moment yesterday can anyone explain this lions linebacker Jamie Collins was objected yesterday for unsportsmanlike conduct after making contact with an official. You need to see here, Collins appears to be demonstrating how David Montgomery had lowered his head into him on the previous play but but watch as look reps, this is what he did to me any. This what the hell are you doing Jamie The flag. Omar Rats. Right. Since I'm sorry. Do you got you? You've never been able to touch especially we all know that. Rex. No stop daybreak we're beating with so soft breaks you have gone so. Pillow I I. I. It's not. It's not a pass interference Michael. Gallup. Now you're trying to kick Jamie. You want them to kick Jamie Collins out of the game for demonstrated that ref takes himself too seriously anything's he's waiting important to. Give them a fixing often. Ryan Real. Data. Go. Thanks. I regard. See I. Think this is so soft. The official leans into. Come on with our. This is super soft, super dramatic. So corny here's. Touch guy if you touch an official ban. Ki Called Corny said it was born we you guys were. He's win was playing with a leather helmet I get it. I will just say this I think the official sold the call. Did you see him? Selling Absolutely, do take a break coming up on Joe Borough experiencing something. He hasn't dealt with the nearly two years but Dan? will explain why this stunning loss was actually a win, and then the quarterback face Thursday night is Baker Mayfield. Why was this very much old same old in the question is, can it be fixed? Will answer it next get up on ESPN. We are back on get up and the browns and the Ravens, the quarterbacks in the spotlight. Lamar Jackson ready to go baker. Mayfield. Maybe not so much first quarter scores. Baker Mayfield records a terrible start. Yeah, terrible tool for bigger just like golly. Pulling for this kid, the voice, he was twenty one of thirty, nine and touchdown to pick meanwhile Lamar Jackson only flips it to mark. Ingram. Almost loses it. Lamar Jackson. Looking to make highlight plays right off the bat later in the drive on a second goal until March Mark Andrews it's a touchdown. Yeah you know he's going to throw into this tiny right here but that's why you leave unguarded Cleveland second quarter. Ravens. Up Ten six. After starting on their one yard line they're working they're working and they're going to work it down the field. This is Lamar Jackson he is throwing Andrews. Again, this guy that throw out of the pocket I'm sorry. Yes he can are Andruzzi and as they get more comfortable here. Andrews working his way into enemy territory, and then it's Lamar again Lamar into the end zone the Mar- that's another touchdown here ravens looking to pull it away Lamar Jackson a celebration as the Ravens thirty eight to six. It's just a thumping. So look we can talk about them. They look great Lamar Jackson looked like he picked up right where we left off I feel like the story here is Cleveland Dan Orlovsky. What did you see from Baker Mayfield yesterday because there was so much pressure on him. This was a big opening day. What did you see? He's trying to be somebody. He's not Greenie. Breaker. Mayfield. You are a rhythm based quarterback. This is eight rhythm based offense stop thinking you're patch from homes or the Marquette. Or Russell Wilson stay in the pocket play with rhythm listening to your feet stop bouncing everywhere stopped trying to move so much you have to think you're stylish drew brees stop thinking you're style is Russell Wilson so. Listen. It's week one. I'm not going to overreact where's your accuracy when you are Oklahoma, you're super accurate your rookie year you're super accurate. Where is your accuracy and then Kevin's defence key? Where's the play action pass that we are we all thought you were going to bring you re let's play action pass yesterday. Then you kitchens did last year. So not gonNA react Baker Mayfield's gotta get better rex. Let's talk about it because your history with Baker obviously, I know you are genuinely wooding for him. That was a disaster yesterday. What did you really was and but I think everybody has it wrong? Number one I mean I love the comparison. Drew brees. Hell. No. You're not not even close to drew brees. He wasn't close to him in college you're at Oklahoma he's accurate why he was more athletic than those guys rushing the passer he's not that I knew each struggle in the League go back and look at it. All right. Here's the biggest problem in that game you had the guy that should have been the first player taken in the draft going against Baker Mayfield and Baker Mayfield I am informed. And Dan makes a great point play action bootleg. We're the hell's the bootlegs. There was no bootleg. So to me, it's not just on Baker Mayfield. It's on Kevin Stefanski. This is the first game you've ever had to be a head football coach in the League and that's what you put up. So to me what this kid needs is some competence we've seen the COP. And the way we play when he is confident. So it's your job as a coach to get them there you need to have easier throws. Let's run some start to game with like see what happens. Yeah. You'll probably complete thing and then go on and on and on Ryan Clark let me come to you. Don't. You think that there'll be a lot better off Odell Beckham plays. that. Did play. Never watching. What happened to back he's supposed to be the best receiver in the whole of this even play I defy anyone to tell me he played in that game. He definitely. Played Green and I think he had one of the more significant plays in the game. If go down to the end of the second quarter, they're driving an opportunity to get a first down and Odell has dropped in the middle of the field. You follow that by missing a field goal and Lamar Jackson has a masterful drive where he marches. And add six more points on board with a touchdown to mark Andrews, and so he did play in listen. There was some balls that were thrown behind him. There was some things that I felt like Baker Mayfield could have done but Odell Beckham junior is that talented? You look during the game and thank he draws three pass interference calls but they're going to have to find ways to get him the ball early and get him involve go back to what the Green. Bay Packers did they ran there were jed sweeps it looked very odd two thousand and eighteen Los Angeles Rams. That's the way they got divided. To, Adams involved early throwing him the ball getting him space. You have to do some of those things for Baker. Mayfield to get him some easier throws and you have Nick Chou Been Kareem Hunt Maybe we'll see next week win. The game doesn't get away from them. What Kev defence key truly wants to do, and we see some of what we saw with Kirk cousins but yesterday was not it. Baker Mayfield needs to settle down but more importantly chemist the ski meets to settle him down. That's his job. That's why he was brought there. This can't be Freddie Kitchens support to an quick final thought go ahead. That's fair. But in our brings up a great point that that's defense he's responsibility that being said, Baker has to play better. This offense is built on rhythm. It means that when you get to the top of your drop, you look at number one with your first hitch. If it's not there get to number two then to number three, you can't dance as much as you've been and the third down in to drop by. Odell is huge because they're down seventeenth six they missed a field goal and then Baltimore flips and it makes it a twenty, four, six ball game at halftime. So it's a great point. See that was a huge point in the game. This is on both these guys on the KU. Xin It's on the quarterback. They both have to get that. It's week one Greenie I a week away one week away from saying Gardner Shoe? Player than Baker. Has To get fixed. As you overreact. overrated. We'll overreacting a week. All right. Meanwhile, we stay in state again browns bengals. We'll play on Thursday that means Joe Baroque who made his NFL debut yesterday against the chargers pick it up in the first quarter no score off twenty-three job rural calling his own number racks in his head. That we saw this, the national championship relish you that this guy's got some wheels he's not afraid to run seven nothing where the bengals in front now they're down sixteen thirteen and its borough. Again, he had an up and down day yesterday against a good defense here is trying to make something happen. Not a good idea. He did this three times during the game we seem doing college the College, the men's League now here's a really big Mama twelve seconds left bengals driving down the field down by three they throw it into the pylon but wait there's a flag on the field Aj green seems to have pushed off. There's another opioid that winds up being a huge moment. In a game. So borough can't believe it. They bring in Randy bullock for the chip shot to send it to overtime. He can't miss this owing this that badly, and so the chargers that wind up winning at sixteen thirteen, borough twenty, three of thirty, six, hundred, ninety, three yards, and one interception. There's a moment that you didn't see in there after the Pi after the offensive. They had time left. They could have tried to throw another pass into the end zone and tried to let the kid win the game and they don't they wind up kicking the field goal there and they wind up Michigan and all of that rex I know you didn't like that. No I thought it was her horrendous called by Zach Taylor. This is the face of the. Franchise right here the number one overall pick give the kid and opportunity to win the game and then if he if you can't connect in the end zone, they kicked the field goal to tie game to me come on your the Cincinnati bengals you have a chance to really get some momentum and excitement around this kid because I think he's going to be a good player. And you punted you ended up kicking the field goal. Why are see agree or disagree with the way they coached the last few seconds of that game. No I I agree with the way they coach at it is just the most Cincinnati Bengal way to ruin a very good showing or at least a good showing by your number. One overall draft pick I. mean that was an excellent drive even after coming back from going shovel pass that was intercepted and now Zach Taylor makes the decision he thinks that puts his game into. Overtime. It gives you an opportunity to win I. Think they're kicker had made like twenty straight under forty. So there was no reason for him to think that that wouldn't be converted and you don't want to lose. You don't want to go door interception I have a bad play and you lose all the momentum that Joe Burrow actually built by playing well down the stretch for me. I. Don't mind the decision practice love watching Joe Borough facing adversity and come through it. Now, they just have to find ways to win, but this was a solid start for the number one overall pick a retro quickly on the decision go yeah. No, I'm sorry that's that's the that's the Cincinnati. Bingo way of thinking. Go for the win. If he throws it have confidence in your quarterback that if it's not there throw it away. Kicked the darn thing when. A as a quarterback what do you think go ahead Ryan. Good RC REX does it like people from Ohio last year was Baker now he doesn't like Zach Taylor. He told Dallas Cowboys. They shouldn't go for it all four down and they shouldn't drive now he's Cincinnati because you didn't make it. You should try I think He's all corporate. Seconds on the clock. Three seconds seven seconds I'm sorry. But anybody can you got time? You're on the ten yard line you got plenty of time to throw it in there right and still be able to kick. If you'd think bleep, there's no other way that's. Go ahead you. Seven seconds, but you have to be able to coach it. I read get your first obscene whether it's green and you throw it out of bounds and that's the way you want to do it in the way you want to go through this. I think this wave you pretend you're young quarterback from making a bad mistake Dan locking your thoughts. See both sides of it know I think the short season could have played a part because our does bring up a point. Have you coached it up like have you coached that exact moment up for only hope so you understand that and I see where rex is coming from for me guys I don't care i. do not care what happened in that but game. When I care about job. And if you're in Cincinnati, you can be a little bit bumped no doubt but you should be ecstatic your quarterback because first of all his placement is ridiculous stuff thrown Aj green that he makes that gets called for. which was that is a beautiful ball and that drive that leads outstanding he's done. All right. We'll leave that there. We have much more to get to but I wanna take you through what was a spectacular Sunday in sports yesterday where do you begin how about the US Open men's final the two seat dominic lost the first two sets to Alexander's Verandah. But then he's working his way back. This is T. With a big forehand winner and a break eventually wins the set six four and he's coming back fifth at team serving at four five t corner to corner. Working at all, that's too good for five. All match would eventually go to a tiebreak in the fifth set. Oestmann side the baseline. And team is one point away from an historic Comeback Championship point. Dominic team two, six, four, six, six, four, six, three, seven, six, is us open champion his first ever Grand Slam meanwhile while that was going on this was going on Alec Mills Game of his life sixth-inning cubs brewers. Allowed to hit through five and two thirds, there's a close play at first but it's called out cloe gets just in time mills as a no hitter going through six ninth inning mill still hasn't allowed to hit. We got three outs to go for Kenny put together or no no, just as. Career Big League Star Jacob Nottingham is first up Anthony Rizzo got play. To out to work the next batter tyrone Taylor is up. Interest, Iram Taylor is down we'll one out away Mex- batter. This is mills one hundred fourteenth pitch of the day. This is Havi Byas and that is history first no hitter by cub since Jake Arrieta in twenty sixteen and a game, they would win well to nothing Alec Mills Throws No hitter on a busy Sunday afternoon while that was going on Albert Pu was doing this that is his six hundred sixtieth career home run. It ties with really maze for fifth place on the all-time list. Angels won the game five to three. Next on the home run list is Iran who had six, hundred, ninety, six home runs in his career. But wait there's more clippers nuggets game six clips up three games to look at a put her way they had a nineteen point lead. For Denver come all the way back and here's Torie right can't leave him quite that open Nicola Yoga's fired up nuggets take the lead later in the fourth nuggets lead by one it's Yokich he's got the range he's got the change not gets a four point lead under five minutes to go the lead his eighth. Paul. George guarding. Yokich all. He's just not big enough. The turnaround nuggets would come from nineteen points behind Yokich had thirty four plus fourteen boards they wind up winning going away. There will be a game seven in that Western Conference series and you will see it on espn tomorrow night to great night of hoops it'll start with NBA countdown. Followed by Eastern Conference finals game. One heat and Celtics, and then nuggets and clippers to decide who faces the Lakers in the West Conference final one of basketball tomorrow on ESPN ESPN APP vainly coming up a lot of Sunday stinkers but analysts will tell us which team was the biggest disappointment in week one that's next. It's. On ESPN. We are back and I'm contractually obligated to show you what Adam Gazes team did in buffalo yesterday. Here we go. Second quarter bills already up fourteen nothing that's Josh Allen. That's John Brown. It's no defense oil. Allan. Three hundred, twelve passing yards two touchdowns ran for fifty seven meanwhile, Sam Darnold is regressing. This is just an absolutely terrible interceptions he throws to Matt. Milano. Cases looking on because he doesn't seem to have anything else to do fourth quarter jets are down twenty one ten here's Chris Herndon contribution to the game a darnold twenty, one of thirty, five, two, hundred, fifteen, yards one touchdown one pick bills win twenty-seven seventeen and it wasn't nearly that close now right after that Interception Ryan Clark tweeted at me he tweeted Bro, Greenie go change your kids names asap there should be named drake and Josh Ren and stimpy Sanford and son anything but SAM darnold that is a stink stink I n t and as I responded to our see on twitter yesterday I will rename joking because I've renamed my kids Sam Darnold I'd renamed then fire and Now. Before. We get to that. Let me ask. Dan. Orlovsky what you saw from Josh. Allen. Yesterday because there've been so many questions about him and I have no idea how much of that was the jets just looking like they didn't know that week one was yesterday but Josh Allen was obviously great yesterday. What did you see from him? Yet Development and Growth Greenie and Josh Allen has done that since he's come into the NFL, we have to give him credit for that Jordan Palmer whose coaches did a great job and then Brian Offensive Coordinator with Ken Dorsey to quarterback coach. He's been really good hidden just developing working on the things that are flaws in his game the some of the Mrs Downfield he's he's an incredible athlete he was great yesterday man coverage this screen right here was a check at the line of scrimmage by him against pressure that's exact kind of development and growth that I'm talking about. Is Again I always say this stop being thrower or being talent in playing quarterback can you do both of them and take off and so really good stuff out of him and I love to see that let me say if this team if this team the bills is GonNa be the AFC division winter like I think they will be and make some noise in the playoffs he can't have those two or three misses too wide open guys in games that yeah, the accuracy remains the question there are saying go ahead your thoughts on what we saw from my team yesterday. But I still your team. Greenie. I'm so sorry and my condolences. Listen. Gino. Simultaneously Two. Things were happening. The best player that the jets have had in a long time played great yesterday just so happened he was playing for the Seattle seahawks and he's playing against the Atlanta Falcons and when you look at this team, they just haven't progressed when you think about what Sam Darnold has and who Sam Darnold is he's not growing into the quarterback that we expected him to be listen to what Dan said about Josh Allen you can see the growth you can see the checks at the line also. Better in Maine coverage yesterday he was last year. Those are things that we expect that from Sam Darnold. This team is going backwards. Your Star player is going backwards and instead of firing Adam Gates as they should have done last year they kept him for another season which continues to hold the progress of Sam Darnold and this organization. You'RE GONNA have to start all over again if you New York jets and that's a sad sad thing for you and your children Greenie I, do feel sorry. Go ahead, rex no I. Mean I think this is. You talk about the bills they're going to win the division I don't think it's going to be close. The thing if you're buffalo bills fan that has to concern you bills when you get way ahead like that, keep your foot on the gas and finish the thing out because the plate championship caliber football. That's what they're going to have to do to beat a Kansas City to beat somebody like that. You know. Yeah. Did they walk over the jets they absolutely did and it is it is unbelievable though both these kids were first round picks up. Same one of them's developing like crazy and the other one's been wrestling. Now, there's no question about it. I said at this morning with keyshawn and those guys, and I'll say it again quickly if I am fortunate enough at some point soon, to have a grandchild who wants to play football and fifth grade goes out for football and gets a chance to play I wouldn't Hire Adam Gates to coach that team he would be overmatched coach, fat? Team? How He's coaching an NFL t I have no earthly idea that was my biggest disappointment of week one, Dan Orlovsky what was your biggest disappointment week one? Carson Wentz. In the Philadelphia, Eagles, for you to start observing, start up seventeen nothing and men hailing team, and then just got to give them the win with turnover and not understanding what their strength was, which is their defensive front that is a massive disappointment. This is a divisional game that you should have easily won and felt good on a game with a bunch of guys that here's stars. This is a huge. Disappointment as a team in an individual player, Ryan Clark your biggest disappointment. The Indianapolis Colts in Philip Rivers, and if you think Dan is upset with Carson Wentz and the Eagles for not winning a division games, you beat the Indianapolis Colts who felt like they were one quarterback away last year. Well, here's the thing that quarterback Andrew Luck Not Philip rivers seved throws a terrible interception into a little two man trap to the up top and they need a fourth quarter interception that you just cannot throw Philip rivers have to protect the ball, but you can't lose to Jacksonville Jaguars team who gave away all of their good players. Brag Dallas cowboys showing it right here. I mean you're looking out of this should be an explosive offense like the Kansas City chiefs or Dallas Texas if you will I'm sorry but we're not saying they have as many weapons as anybody in football and when you only put up seventeen points. I just don't get it. It's disappointing start and it looked so much like the problems they had a year ago we thought perhaps the new coach that would change everything meanwhile week one is not done yet not even close the Monday night doubleheader tonight starts at seven eastern Big Ben is back steelers taking on the giants and that's followed by Derrick Henry and the titans taking on Denver especial, addition of Monday, night countdown kicks off our coverage at five eastern on ESPN ESPN and on the ESPN APP meanwhile are morning is just getting rolling coming up next on first take you have to hear. Stephen. As reaction to the cowboys lost last night I take five minutes away on ESPN. WNBA playoff start tomorrow on ESPN two single elimination game starting at seven eastern the sun in the sky followed by Diana. 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"If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then. Zero in on your short list of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash. Get up good morning. It is time to catch up with the cowboys a win they desperately needed and the connor performance. That might turn around Zizou just in time for their showdown with Philly. We'll start there then. Another quiet day for the Patriots offense but it was the D.. That did it again for new. England has Stefan Gilmore Cook Player of the year. Here we'll discuss Aaron. Rogers says his team gets no respect after a critical win against Chicago should the packers be considered the team's defeat and the NFC. We'll answer answer all those questions and more vision of get up and we are ready to roll McAfee and rex and Dan and we are ready to hit it. He's got I up now sneak peek. I'm a cowboys fan site. Things could literally not had started worse for the cowboys than they did yesterday. And we mean that in the most literal sense of the word because this was the opening coin. Toss Walt Anderson Anzac FRESCA. It is heads. Dallas has won the tall kicking it that you want to catch we before the second half you're GonNa can't Wolf Anderson initially decides that means they're not deferring they're kicking. We're going to kick in both halves. That eventually got changed. We'll talk about it. In the meantime Dak Prescott Jason Witten Wanaka preferred to make this tax with one hand looking behind him. Stick that right hand up secured his tests and we never see Jason witten spike after touchdown he did on that one seven. Nothing Dallas Todd. Gurley would score at a time next cowboys possession look at Prescott buying time and finding a wide open save on all of this. Is the big time play by to make sure that that free runner that on bluffed guys never got home. It's men than men coverage the cowboys. Save on Austin and Darwin do a great job of getting the reins the vendors have run into each other freeze table Austin put. The plate doesn't happen deck is in special. It's seven but here's the play that really changes the game at twenty one seven late in the half. Jared Goff trying to get some late points and he does but for the wrong team of Sean Lee. Does he get it. Jalen Smith is going to just throw zone coverage he had to tight end underneath. It forced decision and strongly made pay for it. And then we'll see some of that old man athleticism at the I resent that wing position. Cowboys are GONNA have a hand. He'd stay in the game but candidly. It wouldn't matter because they would turn into this from Z.. Calling on the line of scrimmage this cowboys offensive line own divine scrimmage. Then you saw some physical run by Zeke. They ran for two hundred sixty three yards. This was the win they needed. Just what about to get cha the whatever you're in and I must say I guess we'll have to get a new coin flip caller no seriously Really Proud because at ah does renewed the teams Confident its work and this one was richly deserved came along and good it was a momentum is a dangerous thing and is about getting it on our side and I. We've got to build off tonight simple as that. We're not we're still not where we want to be we. We haven't necessarily necessarily peaked. But we're heading in the right direction and we just gotTa continue to build and get better rex Ryan primary takeaway from cowboys win. They desperately need it. Well I I mean we. I know they had this kind of performance in them because they're so talented. But do I really believe in this team. No I still think it's fool's gold. Even though you got the Bolo Tie come on. I'm not I'm not buying it in this. The same team that lost to the jets. We've seen this team go like this all the time. Yes are they do. They had the potential to play like this. They absolutely do so. We'll see paint. So you mentioned the talent Dan. Why did it take so long for us to see this cowboys voice team? And what does that say about Jason Garrett. We'll get your Bolo tie in a second. I was a fan. I'd be this would be the game on most mad about all season. This would be the game where I could justify firing Jason Gary. What took so long? What took this kind of performance it took a week fifteen to have it I think the biggest takeaway for me in this game is it? Wasn't just feed. Zeke was way Zeke ran and like he ran with urgency. He ran with the purpose and it kind of affected the whole football team. You saw offensive line block a little bit more of a purpose. He saw his defense play with a little bit more more an urgency to them. So this is about Zeke but just the effort and the style he ran with was my biggest takeaway. I am so excited Dallas Cowboys. You're going to win the NFC East and have a home playoff playoff game. No questions about it not only to have they invested seven hundred million in the offensive line. And Ezekiel Elliott now baller. It's getting loose but Dak Prescott looked it was not only a game manager. Had like a one twenty three point eight passer rating or something like that but Jason. WHITTEN'S GONNA continue to pull rabbits out of his head table table in Austin is going to continue to be explosive. In Jason Garrett is going to be able to motivate these boys to play these playoff games the Dallas cowboys could be getting hot at the right time and when it comes to wall Anderson being a miserable human. We'll have more about that but for me. That only mistake yesterday was that coin. Toss situation with wall in the Dallas Cowboys. Not only you're going to win the NFC by blowing Out The birds next weekend their potential to win the Super Bowl. Just because that's how I feel you did take us there. So let's go there Walter. Why are you looking that way Mr Ryan? They're we'RE NOT GONNA they're they're going to be done in this thing. We all know what men there's no. That's the only thing that Cowboys Eagles next week is the game of the year. No yeah no game of the year. Yeah this to me I mean when I look at this type of thing. This is a pillow fight. It's a pillow fight green. You've got to horrible teams going at it. WHO CARES WHO Win this pillow fight as the only kind of fight. I've ever been all right. Let's get to the bottom of it gets to the beginning of it yes because the NFL. I listen I've been watching football a long time the. NFL had to step in and change the result of the opening coin. Toss because that press did not use the verbiage that Walt Anderson was looking looking for pet neca figure thought so that five hundred coin tosses I always called tails. It failed for B. One time so I want one for two but this is just a standard operation. This is won't Anderson trying trying to make it about himself. He knew what that was trying to say. It's just let it happen. Let it be and move forward and by the way the. NFL gets a lot of things wrong. And I think they actually got this one right if we move forward and maybe after six decades of officiating you're ruining games. This could be the final Straw for Walt Anderson. Walt Anderson. Hey I tell you what man me in him. Oh no we never liked each other right here but why is this guy so smart look at you wait and make it about you. Are you kidding me. You hear the kids say we we wanted to for and then we'll kick it. We want to defer like come on. I know I'm going to show everybody. How smart I am good for you? I know your dentist man. No way in Hell am my going to you that would be take a cavity over wall at five mouth Walter. Not My favorite. I lost every game. I think he refereed which is a your job in case you're wondering we're not kidding. Anderson is actually a dentist. There's the cowboys were the win. They needed. We'll have worn them as we go. How about the Patriots yesterday? Yeah Greenie Bill. Oh Bella is probably glad to just finally play the game after everything that happened during the week more on that in just a moment but opening drive dinner lots D and Tom Brady connected James White right on the screen play call here on third and ten they bring white from one side of the other. That's going to be able to match mantech with defense screen. The big guys on front big start with this offense early late third quarter. The bengals are here any wyant throw in there and let me give you some great analysis. quarterbacks left the play the Patriots don't throw twenty four just don't grow his side it's probably going to get ticked off. It's not going to be in your favor. I love this place by Brady. This has been like three men risks. Wait wait wait. Four men. Now drive in absolute bullets to the back of the ends of McCurry. Good job by here. He worked in the back of the end zone. Yeah they went to get him in the first round he's finally seemingly coming into his own to kill. Harry is under eight minutes left. Don't do reporter here. He's GonNa do but again. Why why why is he going to get on the field? You're throwing that ball against zero coverage to Stefan Gilmore. I don't know quarterbacks don't throw a twenty four there's three the other corners you can much better chance of success not throwing to twenty four. Yeah we'll talk about Stefan Gilmore a little later on in the show. The Patriots win this one. They clinched a playoff birth. And here's the thing Dan everybody's been talking about all these concerns with the Patriots but once again they are the Patriots they kind of looked like the defending super bowl champs yesterday. How would you describe? Describe what you saw me take by me. No I mean listen. This is a ten ten ball game with a minute to go in the second quarter. The bengals fumbled the punt cavaliers. The Patriots scored thirteen ten. The bengals get the ball start. second-half pick twenty four because the twenty to ten the Bengals get the ball for twenty seven ten all sudden. It wasn't anything this offense. They're still misfiring on offense. Brady get six completions. Six completions too wide receivers and we saw some drops yesterday. We Assad drops by the receivers misthrows. I mean there's still this. This is not a clean Chris performance by this offense certainly in the past game we saw crossed by. We start drops by James White. There's those two reliable guys and so to have six completion to kill. Harry was a nice bright spot. There was some completions them but still too many misses against the bengals defense. It's not very good brex. Tom Brady threw for one hundred. Twenty eight yard right yesterday. That's against a terrible Cincinnati team against the Ravens against the chiefs against the Texans or any of the other teams. They might find themselves playing in January. That's obviously not going to get it done. Do they have it in them to be markedly sleep better. No not playing this way. Heck no we've been talking about it now for. I mean months now about how this team right here look at. Finally they can't get separation racist. You've got guys that. The quarterback is showing his age. Finally he's slow getting up when he gets it he doesn't want to take the hits. That's what happens when you play late. Nineteen years and by the way two extra years when you count all the postseason gave. He's the greatest he needs. He needs to get out of this game. Hope like hell they get a bye okay. Okay and then you actually hosting a playoff game the second round but this needs to be a form right now. It's time to move on or the other thing is 'cause I've been calling for a month now put an actual. I'm in all right because you can't run. The football mine was bad. But it's been this Cincinnati your point against for goodness fat not the Ravens. Not anybody else so to me. Put an extra lime in gave Brady a little more time. That's what you do. You have an older quarterback now I think he only threw for one hundred twenty okay because whenever you get caught videotaping somebody else. You don't want to bury. That buried them gamesmanship. You got a little bit. Let your defense when the game for you. Let's let's not have Tom Brady dominate. But I think nick he'll Harry getting into this. Offense is going to be something. That's good for them. Going forward whenever you see Josh Gordon Catch Depot from Seattle seahawks yesterday. You you almost think yourself like man. Tom Brady is going to watch it and think if I had somebody like that. This'll be a whole different story. Nikiel area and that throw that he had in the back of the endzone showed a little little sign of old. Tom Brady where he had to drop. But in a tight window look like an instagram video. They did not look great on offense but they still get a massive win because their defense and special teams. Everybody's rolling them out first game. I won't say a boy boy. This short feels like the potential end of dynasty. We'll sing I don't WANNA say. They did clinch a playoff spot with their win yesterday. But let's get to the other piece of the story involving in because beating eating. The bengals wasn't the biggest patriots related story of the day to refresh your memory last week. A story breaks about a videographer hired by the Patriots with the team says was following one of they were advanced scouts. As part of a web series bengals security felt the cameras. We're focused on the Cincinnati sideline. They stopped the video crew. They confiscated the tape the NFL has been investigating instigating the footage which we had not seen until yesterday when Fox played a tape showing the footage and part of the confrontation between bengals security. And the videography. This is a piece yourself on your advance scout. Yeah come on guys. You don't see the advance scout in this footage. That's not trying to get some perspective is that you can guess make and that's why you would think you could take that. I saw but I can delete this right AF damage is done my friend because we once again by. So you're GONNA die here. I mean here's quite figure thoughts. I hi the most Boston human in the history of humans by the way they're talking to probably the most Ohio human I've ever heard in my entire life for me now. Obviously this looks terrible. And there's there's been a couple of lies now in the story on the big crime guy in the panic in the videography voice. It's a bit alarming. The fact that they said he was an independent contractor. Turns out he's a full full-time craft craft production employees up it alarming but for me in two thousand nineteen with the way the rules have changed with technology where you're calling it into the helmet. I'm not one hundred percent. Sure what you could give them that aside from getting something something on the real life but boy. This does not look good rex. I don't think this is a good thing for the Patriots Organization as PAT. I don't think they've they've ever done anything like this before. I really don't Oh they can say guilty. They don't like draft picks. I guess that's what it is ask. Something's going to happen. That's going to cost another draft. Pick of fine all that crafts GonNa pay it. Because he prints money come on. What are you doing man like? Unfortunately personally this one of the greatest runs we've ever had with the team in all sports in all sports but it's going to be tainted people always say Gee I know they cheat right but they're still great. Let's just focus on the video for a second I. Everyone can have their own opinion and whether this was done intentionally not whether it was done it variously or not looking at that shop shop. Dan Orlovsky could you take anything as a quarterback and I'll get to the coach from Vac from what they were seeing there. There are some signals communication. I know that everything everything gets radioed in. You know what happens a lot in foxborough. Your radio goes out so I've been there. Before when the radios out all gaming you have to signal signal stuff in you have to signal personnel. You have to signal plays. There's heading signals between coaches. Listen I absolutely gather something from that video. If you're doing your job well enough. Just do your job right. We should check the ratings on the entire series they increase but to Dan's point. And also what PAT said. When you look at that video and you see kind of what they are filming? Why would you need that? Like what would you need from a coaching standpoint. That you would see trying going to get an edge. That's what it's all about. All of this stuff is about getting an edge. And that's what they do and if you think that it's something other than that you're crane. Oh No it just happens bowl. It's fine to get an egg. Let's act as if they did a complete accident what videography said and they're very panicked. Fashion was accurate. What does an advance scout to in? Why would this be a good thing for Biro? Shots as advanced scout stared down at the team try to steal signals or how they line up before they go on the field absolutely what they do. Yeah they have binoculars you're looking. They're trying to see. Okay Hey there in three wides there in this there in that but clearly when you're shooting the silent you're looking for something else. What is looking for an? Don't forget teams play with tempo. Nowadays you know when you play with tempo there's way more signals involved than audio communication. The Patriots played with a ton of tempo guilty. Now that's the situation waiting state. There's obviously that story not going away anytime particularly soon with two weeks left in the regular their season. Meanwhile let's go to Lambofield the renewal of the longest standing live over again history of the sport that bears in the packers. Aaron Rodgers is ready to go in the first quarter of their scoreless. They're going going for Devante just a slot fate. It's really bad coverage by the bears. Davante Adams doesn't even try to win the line of scrimmage disco straight down the field great by Roger Greg Twelve. We go to the second half seven. Three packer lead as rodgers again. It's Adams again yeah. Little play action. Fake of ball. Fake that second level steps up they replace it with Davante onto Adams wrapping behind big play action gain seven catches one hundred three yards on the day and then Aaron Jones would do the really bad tackling this pair secondary but a good the Era Jones Ron and then you see finish the emotion by the packers offense fourteen three packers it would be twenty one six in the fourth quarter bears not going away Mitchell. trubisky had accrued food in a really good connection with anthony number seventeen. I love the drift in the pocket here and that the second window slant to get them back in ultimately comes down to this. It's a one score game at twenty one thirteen one second of the two lateral and get around. And they're gonNA get awfully close to scoring a touchdown that could have tied it. No you pray for this opportunity this situation election as a coach that you get this kit. Just throw it to Allen Robinson. He's the one you want to have the ball in his hands. In this moment this young player this tight end probably was not in in practice in this situation to really be in that moment just both were stat is his name and he's able to get the ball Robinson or to Toronto and and the packers Holda they get the win. I don't know that we have the full respect of the entire league at this point Based on some of our performances were seven and one at home home You know we have an inside track at the two seed. Obviously we have an opportunity to wrap up the division next week I like occurrences like our football team pat. Who is Aaron Rodgers talking to right there and why everything you did right? There's for the rest of the locker room to hear he's like hey listen we don't have the respect expected the rest of the League a lot of people are saying a lot of things on get up on. ESPN where legends. Speak and say things that are out of pocket Ryan. Tannehill was better than Aaron. Rodgers was set on this table just a couple of days ago which is absolute absurdity in my mind which is neither here nor there the packers our eighteen that are in a brand new offense right now. Matt Leflore is only been calling place for two years and I think it shows whenever they have to go off script and the first and third quarter the first drives their number two in the NFL on offense as soon as they have to get off script in the second quarter and in the fourth quarter. They seem to knows that a little bit. So if this new offense at the floor has instituted not only rogers by the way he has to learn this but the rest of the offense can get a little bit better in their defense can continue to thrive off turnovers. I think this team won't be a weapon in the playoffs. Because of Aaron Rodgers let alone in spite of Aaron Rodgers like people on this particular deaths were saying just a week ago. Rich insanely Norrland's San Francisco. Seattle is Green Bay as good as that group are they one of the teams. You could see coming out of the NFC no and we make excuses. The new offense. It's fourteen weeks into the regular. When does it become come A? It's just our offense so to me. Aaron Rodgers makes sense to me. You're seven and one at home. He understands that first round or the the second round of playoffs going to go through Green Bay. Sure yeah so I get it but man look how many yards to the bears Mitch. Trubisky look like big like they. They wanted to today's took some of the archway on that last play but trubisky did have a big day accurate. Yes or no rogers last week. Said we're winning ugly. So yes if you're winning ugly you're not going to have a ton of respect or people. I think the biggest thing right now is when you watch tape teams. Don't fear all eleven guys on the packers offense. That's right now. I say that aware of what it says. No one defensively. As fearing Aaron Rodgers right now washed away. Teams are playing them. Usually you could thank you. We fear the quarterback right now teams. Don't defensively little. We'll talk about your favorite person in the world. Carson Arnesen went came up big one is team Lord of ear. We'll talk about what that game coming up next week. We'll meet and awful weather. No Problem Patrick. Mahomes in the chiefs running all all over the broncos. We'll tell you bear peaking at exactly the right time it's on. ESPN BACK ON. Get up. Pat McAfee punting in a snowstorm and get a load of the athleticism on this play. Yeah anytime you get into this situation where it's cold cold and Wet. Sometimes you've got to drop the ball pump. Fake the defenders to make sure that you know you've got athleticism you got hands and ultimately a penalty against your own. I mean how about this look like he was going to the legendary dropkick old school drop kick. I think if you watch the tape back he could have picked up in scooted for first down he decided to let them live another a day and still in five minutes Dan Orlovsky happened some Carson Wentz and he kept his team in it is urban Meyer headed back to the national put league yesterday seem to show some evidence that he is and called for issues in the northwest details as we continue its get up on. ESPN technology truth. Brought to you by GEICO courage truth. You will certainly any text about your supervisor to your supervisor supervisor. What's with Janet's fangs? Did she lose. Bet We thought we'd wacker sent wait. No no no no no truth. It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance at GEIKO DOT COM Janet. I think my phone was hacked or something go. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. We are back on. Get up Rex Ryan. Let's run through some of the places we've been patriots. The win but Tom Brady threw for just one hundred. Twenty eight yards. Is this team good enough to win the AFC no absolutely not. They're going to have a tough time next week against the bills. which is a huge game? That could actually still determine the AFC the east. Meanwhile Green Bay packers clinched playoff. Berth with a home win over the bears wrecks are the packers illegit super bowl contender. I don't think they're super bowl contender. Obviously they're gonNA GONNA compete. They'll probably get to the NFC championship Have to go on the road and get but you still believe in Aaron Rodgers. There's been some dispute about that here. You're still totally in. I'm totally on Aaron Rodgers. I mean and Aaron Jones but you know what their pets man. Oh man if you're banking on on forcing turnovers all the time I'm not I'm not sold cowboys. Get back on track with a big win against the rams are all their problem solved. No it is for a week but you know hey next we could be something else. I love the way they ran the football they were fiscal. They ran behind that offense align and if they did that they'd have a great chance to win next week. Well that's next week. Is the big game. Everyone's talking about when they will play the eagles. Yes so let's tell you what the Eagle did on Sunday. Dan's favorite Guy Carson wentz looking swaggie walking in how urban Meyer. You're an Alex Smith more on that in just a moment hanging out watching this game we go to the fourth quarter and wins right here. Two Mile Standards Dan. This is such an impressive play. Call me third in eleven. You've got at a bank on the redskins bringing blitz and you wanna run away from that trust your scouting and your game plan. In that moment. They did a massive play off. Doug fifty six yard gain A.. And then here you speak of trust winced Zakar Punch set you get the defenseman coverage get a couple of rugs and picks irks wide open again second week in a row. We couldn't show you all good winds. We gotTA show you some bad Anderson. This is not his. No this is fun. I mean this is bad by the pocket. He's got to feel. That timing is gone. I I gotta go to let me go. Get his frustration that led to a redskins. Still go wins right here under two minutes and thirty to play. How about that this catches sick? Many comes out of his hands so early got her fight through some contact sticks underneath to make sure it secures that cats really well done. Hey Dan where's Red Ward Junior. been this whole time on on the practice is hanging out of Houston playing quarterback. Oh Man I love this ball. The air on the struggle watch ward. Go attack at an air. You tell high point. Go attack it for a college. It's quarterback to do that so well done another massive comeback win all right so the eagles now string together to wins and the cowboys. Winning yesterday means both teams will meet at Seventy and seven next week with the NFC east on the line looks. Somebody's got to win it if the cowboys to win. Then they will officially clinch the division Title F. B. I. Favors Dallas to win the game mm-hmm and the division so patent. Dan Dan. I'm GonNa give you the first crack here because you've gotTa Talk About Your Guy Wins but in all seriousness. These last two games. You told us last week you felt like that win would be big for him and his confidence. What did you see on Sunday? Second time in six days of another performance that you know like when he needed to be his best he was at its best. They they needed him to be in the fourth quarter on that last drive as good as he's been all year and the ball placement the decision making getting it out of his hands it it was spectacular and then Doug Peterson thought was outstanding with the whole game plan. Some of the screen passes me you see this throw by Carson. WENTZ air that he puts on it lopping one one receiver catch passes today what and they want an NFL football game. I mean that doesn't happen by accident a quarterback when they needed him to be at his absolute best. Ask the second time in six days he was listen. I like Carson Wentz. I think he's very good. I've learned his greatness. More because of you explaining why the wide receivers are wrong and Carson wentz is always. He's right and I understand that the eagles have nine players on. I R plus another four just yesterday so I'm no mathematician or scientist but that's thirteen people that are out. This spilled of Eagles team has decimated with injuries. Which is why I think this upcoming week? The cowboys who are hot right now. Who Jason Garrett has the team absolutely motivated and ready to go get an easy win whenever their favorite in the same place that not only you know abuse Santa a little bit and gets angry? I don't think home the vans are gonNA mean much because as soon as the cowboys get a lead that fan base is GonNa turn on him in. The Eagles have not played with the lead for the last two games. Not a single. I believe they start. Slow Zeke in the cowboys. Get hot this week. The Bolo Tie Jerry Jones in Jason Garrett copper are going to run their way right into the playoffs offs win the NFC. least you sound like a head coach of the cowboys. First of all I would take that job by the way out to the Santa comment because that's not it says second of all places places going to be. Who Do you trust more coach? Well go who do you trust more as a quarterback. I liked that cross. Let's go off. It's like more hold on now. Hold on has never been a situation. You don't know what you don't know right. He's stupid going in there. Okay and I think with all the weapons they have and the defense coming together around Sean Lee because banned Russia bidding is gonNA scream passes thrown onto expose. Eagles defence is about it gets sliced. Open by Amari Cooper. Now take on tyreek Hill while quarterback do you trust more yeah like Dak Prescott. I'm like okay one into the question. Jason tells you everything you need to know it also tells you that. Because he hasn't answered the question he might really be a good fit for the cowboys. Head coach all right. We need something else Italian in that game in the owner's box. Let's go back to the beginning of the conversation where we saw urban Meyer sitting there with Alex Smith who some may not remember was his quarterback at Utah once once upon a time and then became the first pick in the draft and he was also there to see his former quarterback is there in his former wide. Receiver is the two kids from Ohio state. Who are rookies? By the way both played played well yesterday doing haskins played while yesterday but this conversation is going to be about urban Meyer so rex. Urban Meyer is a name that has come up. It came up in connection with the cowboys. Coaching job. It's GONNA come up with practically every significant college opening that there is and now because he's sitting there yesterday it comes up with the vacancy in Washington. Do you think that would be a good move for the skins. Well no I think it will be. I think it'd be a great move for man. You get both your quarterbacks and it's GonNa look great on paper but if you're urban Meyer and you've had had had no health issues all that if you take this job you thought you add health issues just just late this the men's league I tell you what it ain't eight for everybody and urban. Look that money is going to be huge for him to take it and I think he will because money talks and we know what walks. I think you'll take that job. And then when he takes it after about two games he's going to be like what the hell am I doing. I don't understand the fascination between urban Meyer and the NFL like Urban Meyer's to shrinks are recruiting in the quarterback. Run you can't recruit in the NFL and the quarterback run doesn't survive. I mean the way that house state and be Bowling Green and Utah. Tall have have run it. I mean it's not like what we see in Baltimore so you're not going to get urban Meyer to change the way he calls all fence. He's been so reliant on quarterback run for a long time and then also like he can't recruit players in the NFL. You get given by the manager of you get to coach. That was his greatest strength was finding the talent and getting it to come his schools urban Meyer took a shot at me out of nowhere whenever he was doing a very small interview for somebody so obviously think he's a bum strictly because of that. But let's go deeper at this. A lot of college coaches have not been able to transition into the NFL if they have no NFL experience right Sabin. He laughed betray. No left you name it whenever you have that authorised -tarian control every single moment is somebody's life. Which is what college coaches do? They control their workout. They control what they're eating. They control their classes. They control their study sessions year round now even through this summer when it gets in the NFL different ballgame. Having to handle that now can he adjust to the modern. NFL and having to deal with players that are making more money than him. Maybe I just think it's GonNa be difficult for somebody. That has a lot of success. Old Dog new tricks especially whenever you've been successful at a different level to be kind of Sunday which is what happens in the NFL when you're working together with the players as opposed to being the boss of the say the two teams he's been tied to obviously Dallas. I mean you'll have way more power in Washington. Many would in Dallas right like way more control roll way more say over the roster as Jay Gruden how that worked out for him and every other head coaches ever coached under Daniel Snyder. I listen to me that unquestionably the worst of the openings. Because everyone thinks you should look at the quarterback you cannot last quarterback not outlasting the owner. But if you turn just like the Cleveland job like I I was told by Rajas inskeep said coach in the NFL too. You've been fired from Cleveland and I think the reason why you enjoy going to these places is because if you turn them around your hero zero forever this is what Urban Meyer and has done a lot of places. He's gone in one scandal. Alan if he can do that in the NFL. Just haven't ask another former Florida coach. Who went to work for Dan Snyder? Under for years ago and Steve Spurrier Ball coaching in Washington. By the way our week fifteen Monday night. Football matchup tonight. Kobe said in the colts in New Orleans to take on drew brees and attended ten and three saints. That's eight eastern on ESPN ESPN deport and the ESPN APP. Coverage begins with Monday. Night countdown at six coming up after terrible. Cornwall's US last week. The Texans when a tough one in Nashville. We'll tell you why. Their success is dependent on one position on the way get up. ESPN it back on. Get up huge day in the NFC. West Kyle Shanahan the niners finders. Hosting the Falcons is first game against his former team. FIRST QUARTER DOSE score. Jimmy Garoppolo a change that on a fourth down. There's Kelly of course you put him at fullback and then he bluffs that defensive. The linebacker gets caught inside easy conversion on fourth down from the niners he had thirteen catches for one hundred thirty four yards. But it's his block a touchdown that everyone like. I mean this wrong. It is a good player. Safety is making part of the turf. He's a good player for Atlanta. Some people thought it wasn't impressive and I did in the meantime. Let's let's go forward a little over a minute to go in the game. The Falcons are down twenty two seventeen and driving and here comes. Julio Jones over the Middle Alcan's were in business the him and Matt Ryan Got Hot. You you saw connections screening awesome hooper. Now thought this was a catch obviously a replay overturned it because it looks at ball bounces off the ground could call about the efficient. What would have put them up at the very end? They don't touch. It's called the touchdown then review overturns. Here we go final play of the game. This is another touchdown to Julio Jones initially rule. He's not in review puts him in the at grade. They did a good job. Premium cost one side of the field to the other. The bulk clearly crosses the plane and I love the throw. Button at Ryan on that. Back shoulder allows Salihu kind of turn to the defense thirteen catches one hundred thirty four yards in two touchdowns falcons and the niners a bad loss Laura more NFC Action Russell Wilson and the the seahawks visiting the panthers early. Second Quarter seahawks lead Wilson. How about this one Dan? He goes deep. The Josh Gordon. This guy used to play for the Patriots that catches unbelievable. Best Deep Bowl throwing the league. Russell Wilson I love the air. Look at the full extension. The Fingertip Pat Catch by Josh Gordon. He's still has those physical talents. Bomber struck the field to make some big time catches catches still got a fourth quarter St Hawks facing fourth in one spot run by Chris. Carson restaurants are not a big day. The seahawks run game is becoming very physical very dominate minute very interface berry two thousand thirteen run. Chris Carson had a big afternoon. I like seahawks going to win. Thirty two twenty four in the forty niners loss means Seattle. Now takes over that top spot fought in the NFC with San Francisco sliding all the way down to the first wildcard spot forty niners. We'll have a chance to earn that top seed back as they traveled to Seattle in week. Seventeen the FBI has the race for the NFC. West is a virtual tossup giving the forty niners the slightest some edges at fifty one percent. Cuban on on the forty niners all year long. Are You you staying on that bandwagon. And what would make you stay on it right now. I'm staying on it and look. They've had some injuries. They gotta get some guys back but I mean look he lost okay. An inch the New Orleans gave up. How many they got beat by thirty points? By the Falcons. So that was my superbowl pick by the way. I look really good but when I look at it. It's I'm staying on this niners team George. Kettles absolutely man in Garoppolos playing well they can run the football in their defense. Come on man you gotta step up a little bit man. It'd be that defense. I thought you it's a remarkable situation. Because you've got the seahawks and the niners and if New Orleans wins tonight you'll have four eleven in three teams in the NFC which one you like. McAfee Seattle or San Francisco Seattle more than like San Francisco. Strictly because of this and and the injuries are obviously not good for the niners. They've given up ten touchdowns in the last two weeks that is just unheard of especially with the way we were talking about the niners defense early. If we would've told you week ten maybe week. Eleven before the saints game where they gave up forty six points that Matt Ryan. In the Falcons offense will be on their own thirty with one. Time came out down to five against the niners defense to win the game in Santa Clara. You've said there's no chance of that happening but now the last couple of weeks yes. Injuries have happened. This this difference has not been a defense. It was early which they're going to need. I'm not saying you won't come back because with good players. which is what they have that can happen? But after a couple of emotional games they lead up to the Falcons. It's not a good time to have emotional. Slaughter not be at your best which it seems like they are not and that's why we can't overreact. I mean this is the third. They've got three losses by thirteen points. All them on the last play of the game and every game every loss. It's been a bit out some turnovers. They turn the ball over on offense. They don't get any on defense and then they lose on the last play the game a pet. You mentioned the emotional run that they've been the Juggernaut of the schedule that they've been on they just go across the country essentially had that massive comeback win against New Orleans Credit Credit Lanta. They played well in the injuries. I mean you talked about the defense three of the top five guys in the second year out for real and Dan says they've lost three Games by a total of thirteen points it could easily have been seven. They gave up a touchdown on the last kickoff. Play of the game yesterday. The bad time I would have been three losses by total. Let's seven points at this point in the season. We'll see of the four teams again super-quick New Orleans if they win tonight. Eleven Wind Green Bay. Eleven wins San Francisco. CEO of all four of them. which one you like Arain Rogers by car? I'm just counting you for the rest of the niners by far New Orleans. I've been on them all year. We'll see what happens. That's the NFC situation let's go into the AFC and this was a huge one in the AFC. South Texans tightened or I antenna help. He's been red hot late in the second quarter. No score titans first and goal on the five. Oh we're going to swing right here. Mostly really good job of banging and then turned into the football pops into his lap and then you see him catch up the one return it all the way to the other side inside the fifteen yard line. Texans would store fourteen point swing. Yeah Sean was actually picked up in the end zone twice on the day as well. But not here he finds Kenny stills. The Big Man Converts he stares one way comes back and just see touch to trek through the air on that throw. Beautiful can still fourth quarter. Were tied. Texans I and Gold Carlos five they ran it well against Donald side is a big deal to offense because it sits at physical tone for their run game if they can get the run game going and makes things a lot easier for their past and then with a seven point at least they had a big drive in the fourth quarter that took all the air and the life out of Tennessee and a lot of it was this connection to Hopkin. How many times have we seen this like the Shawn Watson creating stuff the pocket getting outside and finding that connection you see a beautiful ball the middle here driving down to the scene the distributable everybody else and then the closer of this football game was the quarterback Deandra hopkins absolutely paid six catches one hundred nineteen yards like all of it was in that fourth quarter and you see on the face of Mike rebel? The titans lost a rough way to to start their final three games. Sunday host the saints. Then they go back to Houston. These teams meet up again to finish the season. FBI does not like the titans in either of their two remaining games. They give the Texans currently in eighty nine percent chance to win the division. So this is a tough team to figure out the Houston Texans obliterated by Baltimore play just terribly early against Denver now bounced back against a team. That was as hot as any in the sport. Are we buying the actions your name. I think you have to. especially if they're going to concentrate on the run game and now I know they have a lot of weapons but but whenever they run the ball forty five percent of the time. They're undefeated right because that sets up the pass game where they have so many weapons hopkins have full when they're on the field to sean watching. QBR whatever or is up near. Patrick mahomes he becomes a different animal. The defenses good that game yesterday. A blocked field goal by the way for the titans is something that was the difference in that whole thing. It's obviously going to be a big week. Seventeen matchup at the titans kick by the saints but for me. I like the Texans a lot. I think Deshaun Watson is playing very good but you're one hundred percent it's hit or miss you never know if they're gonNA show up or not. Yeah and you're high on the titans despite this loss. Why are they were talking about this Houston defense like they did something they gave up? Four hundred fifty yards a in this game so to me. Look if the titans. They're built they. They're built actually to go into New Orleans and win that game because of their weapons. Look but this looks like a basketball team at receiving there. That Brown Kid Corey Davis John Smith who by the way I mean man. Did he track that dude. Ah On the twenty one hundred twenty one miles an hour. Thank you very much. And if Tanny Hill like we gotta get the run game going more and I wonder if was Derrick Henry that hamstring good that bother them because they stop running them and everything. Tony Hill does is off the play action. So they gotta get him healthy if he is so. I think the going to New Orleans and actually but that's why was impressive by Houston. They made Tennessee play style that they didn't want to. And that's why do believe in that defense. Don't pay attention to the BRONCOS game in two weeks ago they just. They didn't show up that way. I think if Houston Texans had the greatest Wa the biggest with of potential for their football team. I could see this team going to make a super bowl. Ron I've fled can see the Houston Texans going to the title game. And then I can see them losing in the first round of the playoffs if they distributed football two guys like will fuller and to Kenny stills and then had de'andre hots Hopkins as the closer their quarterback can get hot any minute their defense can cover on the back end and they're dangerous if they do if they're doing those things bearing in mind that Baltimore just wiped the field with the big teams in the conference which anything they don't WanNa see. Do they not want to see Houston or not. WanNa see Tennessee. I think you would not want to see Tennessee in the playoffs. Strictly because of that run game can get it going into deep insane. No absolutely agree with that no way. Don't they don't WanNa see Houston got the they got that one of the best players in the league I do but the travel channel. Here's one thing we can all agree on. This was a nice moment yesterday. Ally manning playing overwhelmingly likely his last game at home as a New York giant and going out with a win was twenty of twenty eight on the day. Two hundred eighty three yards. Two touchdowns got a standing ovation. Asian from teammates and fans at the end of the game and then got a game ball in the locker room and made himself even more popular with his teammates with the way he finished. Listen this guy's got many game balls but let's give one more he likes. It doesn't matter what the feeling is with the seasons going. There's not better feeling than a win in the locker drew on a Sunday. Boy This special and let's keep it rolling right. I'll see y'all with. I just gave us a love news. Lots of a good way to go Out For Eli. If that indeed was his last game in New York meanwhile sportscenter four eastern with Hannah and Keith today Chris Mortensen with the latest on the NFL's investigation into the pats evaluating the eagles and cowboys match up on Sunday. 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We got we got our Laskey. We got a lot to get to. And we start at the end of your NFL Sunday with the Vikings. And that offense led by Kirk cousins going up against that great Chicago defense in a battle for the top of the NFC north, and this was advantage ACOG Congo from the get go down and cook. Gripped by Khalil Mack that the defensive line is an absolute problem MAC run or pass best defensive player in the league. This year MAC is four five Kumble's under teams in most in the league this year. Now, Mitchell Trubisky did not have a great night. He was twenty thirty one one sixty five but it does make a pretty play here. And this is what he does. So well rolling out. Yeah. He throws really break adjustment by Anthony Miller young draft pick. I love the celebration of Bisky did not enough. There's a fourteen nothing lead at the half Trubisky. However would be picked off twice in this game. But the defense will pick them up both times like here. Vikings poppet interception, and there's a sack fullback biking's would be held to a field goal. They're down fourteen three. And then if you get a sense there's a theme because there was one after another bears turnover in the fourth quarter again Minnesota in scoring range and again the defense holds the new a field goal. And then finally this is where they would put it away on the next Vikings possession. It's cousins he's back to throw. And this is Eddie Jackson stepping in the wind going back. Twenty seven yards for the touchdown. It's the bears fourth six of the season. No other team has more than two final score twenty five twenty. It wasn't that close Chicago in the north right now looking like the best team, and I will turn to you Rex because defenses in your blood, or it has been all your life. Is that the best defense in the NFL? Absolutely. And you know, what in this game for Minnesota just passed the torch? Because clearly you were the best team last year on defense. It's not even close. It's the Chicago Bears. They score on defense. They get to the passer they stopped the run starts up front with with Hicks. Khalil mack. You mentioned. I disagree though. Dan, I don't think he's the best defensive player in the league. I think that's Aaron Donald. But don't get me wrong. These guys are hard to find by the way. So everybody said it's going to be the worst trait ever in the history. Will it looks like it done that is if this, you know, this deepens was really good to begin with. He kept Vic Fangio as your. And outstanding coordinator, and you add Khalil Mack. Like, oh my goodness. So this gives them an opportunity to beat anybody in the league. The defense obviously helps with this. He doesn't have to be perfect. Some people were down on him after last night. What did you see surprise this team right now reminds me a little bit of like the Seahawks years ago where they have the incredible defensive line, and they can get after you and then Trubisky as a little bit of Russell Wilson. He's able to make plays outside of the pocket. Protect himself, and he goes down inside slide. And so he does it have to be perfect. He's good enough with this speak to extend drives get first downs. And then he's gonna have those moments where it's a beautiful throw for touchdown or those games re has three or four touchdown passes. So this team is built a lot. Like those Seattle teams that were dominant and Trubisky just needs to play that Russell Wilson early in his career mode. Look at the way this thing has fallen four them with Green Bay losing at the beginning of the week. And I'll see me to fall apart right now are on Aaron Rodgers and they beat the Vikings last night. Is it over are? They going to win the NFC north Chicago absolutely ingredient brought this up last week the only team in the NFL in the top five in scoring offense and scoring defense. You know? So the last time they did that they went to the Super Bowl, you know. So to me, they they've got this thing going in and people please stop getting Mitchell Trubisky. The guy only had one year of playing starting experience in college. He's only getting better and better. And better our buddy Lewis calls a Maserati Mitch all right last game last night in the big easy. That's right. Carson Winston the eagles taken on the stains. We go to the first quarter eagles down ten nothing. Went dropped back here. Fires Deepa, Dan. That's into a double coverage. No. There's this so much pressure on this offense right now to try to make plays in. You could see with Carson Wentz with that decision. And then the frustration on the sideline second quarter seeming saints, Dr drew Brees gets the snap and Rex what are we see here? Faking the hand off Alvin Kamara but Mark Ingram gets it. Well. Pick your poison right there. The eagles played one coverage the whole game. They doubled Kamara and they double Thomas, and that was it. Well, guess what you better do something to stop the run. They gave up seven yards of carries thrown into tight coverage there for that, Pat. Third quarter saints at seventeen breathes drops back and passes. That's the twenty three yard touchdown pass to Michael Thomas. Thomas had four catches for ninety two yards. The saints or big thirty one to seven fourth quarter saints lead thirty eight two seven four and seven on the Philadelphia thirty eight and breeze. Drops back finds chimeras streaking down the sideline for the thirty seven yard touchdown pass chimera burning mouth in Jenkins in the saints have been saying the eagles got lucky last year. Not having to see them in the playoffs. They were asked about that post game in those two running backs had something to say about it. This is the worst boss champion. They had to Philly. I said what I said I forgot to say what he said. This is the second time. I think that's it. Eek boy backing on board. You know, no disrespect. They had to fill it. They had to fill it. This is the bottom line. I told you about everybody. So they had to fill it. It's like sorry. Not sorry, Alabama together. No, they're insane. It's pretty fun to see what they've doing. But Dan, they continue to roll are. They what's the single. Biggest reason why the saints are so good. You could point to so many things. But to you what we to chimera it might Thomas and breezy. We should. But it's the offensive line guys. I mean, I said that a couple of weeks ago, the investment of the first round picks with Pete. And ramczyk it paid off. And then we talk about elite quarterbacks, right? And what is a defining characteristic of elite quarterbacks they make everybody around them better. We are watching that with drew Brees. He's thrown two guys that Kirkwood. I didn't even know in. That's not disrespectful. I didn't even know who the guy was to last night, but he has a career night trick wants Smith couple of weeks ago. He's not having the rookie year. Everybody wants to now he's bawling in. So you're watching what he leaked quarterback plate. Looks like breeze making kind of run. Mill guys look like trouble players because he's such a special quarterback day. Dan. You know, what here's something? That's lost. Everything drew Brees is breaking records every week now for career records. Well, how about the records that he's due to make this year? How 'bout completion percentage? TD do interception ratio. And by the way, Pasha rating. Are you kidding me? So he's leading. We we go who's the MVP? Well, it should be a slam dunk. Drew brees. But nobody talks about this. Like, it's amazing. Oh, and by the way, they have the two best you know, that the combination of Ingram in Kamara running the football. And it all starts up front with that offense, align it is just fun to watch. And without question. This team looks like the best team in the NFL right now. I don't think there's any doubt. They are the best team in the NFL at this moment. Let me take it to the other side. Then if I can because those are the defending Super Bowl champions that we watch on the field with them yesterday. And the way the division is shaping up right now in the NFC east. Maybe it isn't really over for the eagles. But it just isn't that at the end of the day individually just isn't far enough away for them to give up, but what's wrong with Philadelphia. Well, last year, listen in the NFL, usually the teams that are good at the end of the year the teams that are healthy. And the teams that are struggling are the teams that get beat up last year was such a anomaly, it was the lightning in a bottle because they had so many injuries in somehow they overcame those injuries this year. They're not, and that's that's the norm in the NFL is not overcoming those injuries. People are talking about mandate. Misty flip. Oh, and they misprint Greg shirt. Doug Peterson dinner forget coach football guys. Like, it just didn't happen. They're just not able to overcome those injuries right now. And the talent has been depleted. They're still in it. Somehow greenie goes of Carson Wentz. And and can they make a play here there? But I just don't see them overcoming the injuries. Well, Dan, you mentioned losing Frank. Right. That's the guy because look what he's done to the colts. By the way, the team hasn't given up a second five weeks. You know, he is when you you don't just replace great coordinators. I mean, that's something that oh, there's sort out. No. This clearly MRs Frank, right? Clearly, they're playing tomato man on defense with their of corner. And they don't switch anything. Like, it drives me crazy. And then this plan all he did was was double Kamara in Michael Thomas still gave up touchdown passes. Those guys they can't stop the run. This front is not playing good. Any what excuses? Nobody wants to hear everybody goes through injuries. And so, but that defense, you're right. This is not playing at a championship level. It's a colossal disappoint right now for the eagles. Again, that's a division where the people who root for the giants think their team is back in. I got a text from the buddy. Giants is still alive. So you can't rule them out. But you saw him stat. The eagles have the toughest remaining schedule in the National Football League. If they're going to get back to the playoffs. They're going to earn it in a big way. We're just getting started coming up. The Jaguars defense was dominating big band and the Steelers and then the fourth quarter happened we will break down. What was for me? The most significant game of the day coming up next, plus the court drama. We've thought the warriors would still play like champions candidate get back to their winning ways after a taste of the real NBA. Get up is brought to you by Cuervo traditional now. Please drink responsibly. I came in the day was Ben Rothlisberger in the Steelers taking on the Jaguars. What a remarkable game third quarters killers are down nine nothing. Ben has been picked off repeatedly second nine from Jags eleven and there is a game. Jalen Ramsey went a lot to say this weekend. It is backed it up. He was phenomenally brings us when back fifty yards about this. Burgers, third interception of the day. Here's why they had to say about all those picks. They had a linebacker number fifty. We'll just use numbers. So Santa names that wanted to let me know every time I threw interception. He found me and told me how many exceptions through. It's a little motivation too. Get a Jaguars liked to talk. Tends to be sometimes before it really all matters end of the third quarter. Steelers down sixteen nothing about this burglaries back. He's got Antonio Brown. Seventy eight yards for touchdown. They go for the two. They don't get it. So the Steelers are down sixteen to six fourth quarters seen score in the red zone. Under three minutes ago. Brought this burger back to throw he's gonna find Vance McDonald this time eleven yard touchdown at sixteen thirteen not picture the Jacksonville offense because they don't have one. But under a minute to go Steelers second in ten from the Jags twenty-seven. Brought this burger escapes James Connor. Gets behind the defense. Oh my goodness. That was a touchdown. That's right in his hands. This is going to be touched on the week that Levy on bell is officially no longer there. The drama remarkable. The Steelers are in field goal range, but rothlisburger fines Antonio Brown. He's down inside the five take dick dick later in the drive. Second gold member of field goal ties route this burger throws it. He's going to be intercepted and the Jaguars. They're going to win. Hold on. He saw Ben saw DJ. Hey, grab the face Mark face of Switzerland through him to the ground. And so clearly that's a penalty. Good call. No question about it under ten seconds ago. Steelers trying to win it very smart to save. They turn out for this circumstance. So Ben is down of India's close they still have a chance to run another play. But that is your game winner. Steelers win it by score of twenty two sixteen. And so we look at the numbers despite having almost no long targeting Antonio Brown in the first half. Big Ben stayed with them, and it paid off in the second. One hundred and ten of his two hundred sixty one second half yards came when targeting Brown has most any half this season. So Dan Orlovsky. There are so many things to say coming out of this game. We will say all of them as we go. But with your handy ipad. I would like you to show me. How Ben Rothlisberger won this game on that play careful what you say to a hall of Famer right for Jacksonville. But I'm gonna play it a little bit greeny, and it's really it's vintage Big Ben and its its version of a triple option, I'll run it back. So first of all you're going to see that they're gonna free release James Connor on really kind of a rail route or a flat, and that's going to be the first option. He's gonna get messed men to men by television Smith, so you get in free released Talbot. Smith matches him. Okay. So you can see telvision Smith right there. James Connors taken away that to Bain wants to kind of kick that ball to if he's uncovered and then his next option is going to be I wanna run a shovel past events. Mcdonald's is going to just pitch. Underneath short thunder handed to him. But I'll play this for another second Jahic. Visit great job. I'm not going to pronounce his last name because I can't okay. So Jahic doesn't awesome job of undercutting Vance mcdonagh. Now, the offensive line for the Steelers is are actually in the right position you want. Ramon foster going back, and then feel Feiler was in the right place to get Jack cut. All right now, Jack athletically as gifted as he is out that if he beats the block, so if you're the Jags you take that position right there. Yeah. You got Big Ben on a big time linebacker in space. But it's just vintage Big Ben where he finds the way to win the game and runs through miles Jack for the touchdown. So it's certainly the athleticism of Big, Ben. But understanding okay Connor is not there man and for quarterback screening trying to make that decision. Vance McDonald it's tough. And then it's just that instantaneous reaction of I've got to make a play and vintage Big Ben getting it done. You cannot overestimate the significance. Of saving their timeout. Also at the beginning of that sequence. They clocked the ball when they got down there instead of using their time out. So Ben has the option of doing that the clocks going to run out field goals still would've tied phenomenal game in so many ways. We'll talk more about it as we go. But Laura take me to the NBA. Let's do it. And how about the warriors against the Spurs? Steve Kerr's looking for some answers defending chance we go to the second quarter with Jalen rose here with us now down one jailing Kevin Durant shooting the mid range. He gathered his own rebound. After missing does. Not get the foul there though. Good morning, Laura. How're you doing is? So good to see you fourteen years. I up one of our Rosen drives through traffic get some lay in to go in the Spurs are up by three later. It's the same score the markets Aldridge. Get down path it's the baseline jumper there. He had twenty four points. Spurs up by just over a minute warriors down six Durant with a chance to cut it to three. But no. And that means he was one for eight from three under a minute to go. Same score Patty mills field. The open look for three and his is good. He's fired up the Spurs win. It Kerr was asked about the fate of his team after the game. Take a wish. We've had such a charmed existence the last four seasons. So yeah. Of course, this is the toughest stretch we've been in. This is the real NBA. We haven't been in the real NBA last few years we've been in this. Stream. And so now, we're faced with a real adversity and. Gotta gotta get out of it ourselves. I just say this. I mean, I really everyone else's thinking it I love that. He said, but they're not ruining basketball. What right now right now basketball is ruining them. Real NBA in. What are you talking about are the warriors in serious trouble? Jalen there a serious trouble. We'll Steph curry doesn't play definitely when Draymond green doesn't play. Because those are the creators they set the table. And it goes stay warriors their model used to be strengthened numbers a couple of years ago when he won the championship because players six through twelve were actually productive members of the team when you have five potential all stars you deplete your bitch. So not looking for quality minutes from players like Kvant looney. Terrip coal Bill Damian Jones. And if you look at their bents, those guys consistently being productive puts more pressure on Kevin Durant. And obviously he's been a volume score. But we all understand assuming Steph comes back into healthy and Draymond comes back that part of it. We'll take care of itself. How about some of the other stuff? How about these lingering feelings mccur said last week there spiritually injured right now as well. How does he get them through that? There are certain things you could say to me and the disagreement where our relationship will never be the same. That's what happened with drain Moniquet d this will be their final season playing together and Golden State a lot of people speculated already to Katie would be leaving. Unfortunately, not for Draymond. He'll be the scapegoat to a lot of fans to a lot of members of the media. But I don't think that's going to deter them for the ultimate goal of trying to win a third straight championship. That's the part of this. That is most interesting. I agree with you. Now that everyone sort of has a basic sense of what was said in all of that. Can they work it out enough? That's really. What I was gonna can they work out enough to still win the title this year, they'll coexist and win the time because when they're all together, they're still clearly the best about this in the Eastern Conference. There's become a cluster of really good teams, Boston Toronto Milwaukee. Philadelphia just added Jimmy Butler, you know, the real theater in the east and the Western Conference is who's going to make it to the Western Conference fine is actually wide open right now. It's like just when we thought the warriors were invincible just a little locker room, drama messes everything. This. You're gonna hate this. And he'll be you know, who's gonna wind up having been right? Your buddy, Steven. We're going to get there and played them. And he's like Davis. No lose to. Okay. See they'll lose to Utah. They'll lose to Huston. You saw. Let's see. I'm trying to tell you. Oh, okay. We'll learn on record Utah. Okay. See in Houston. Maybe. Utah. Gotta get it together. They're not taking on any of these stats are easy to understand. And we're telling me about in the warriors averaging nearly eighteen points without Steph this season that gap is the difference between leading the NBA in scoring and ranking twenty fifth they need to and that's all you really needed right now, they need a lot of things coming up last night. Lebron James he is Jalen he took his talents to south beach. He reminded the fans there of just why he is so good. If you haven't heard the history he's made we're going to show it to get next. And stick around in our next hour Rex Ryan, we'll give you the one play that changed his entire outlook on this season charged or his. Uh-huh. You know, about blink motion activated security cameras, amazing technology for detecting anyone sneaking around your home or trying doors, and of course, monitoring holiday package deliveries. Blink is inviting ESPN listeners to score massive savings during its black Friday cyber Monday event, go to blinkprotect dot com slash radio and sign up for an alert when the sale starts. That's blinkprotect dot com slash radio or hit Amazon dot com and search Blake security link is an Amazon company back on get up in a good one in Atlanta yesterday. Cowboys and falcons pick it up fourth quarter Cowboys up three and Rex Ryan. They were giving the ball with Zeki, Elliot. Hey, imagine that give the ball to your best player. Get a chance. These averages over one hundred yards a game only Jim Brown's ever done that career twenty three yard touchdown. Their Cowboys up ten but Nightline not giving up at the game. Any fines. Julio Jones for thirty. Touchdown extraordinary play by who are they tied the game at nineteen hundred minutes ago, we are still tied. And it's Prescott Dak Prescott looking for help. Who's gonna find is it going to be Amari Cooper, the new acquisition know, what's going to be cold? Beasley for nineteen yards. This was a great little two minute offense. They had at midfield. This get them into field goal range. And so with three seconds left. Brett Maher that sneaks it in the Cowboys sneak away with a twenty two to nineteen win a huge one in net division because Washington and Texans where the Texans I should say. And for this by now you've seen it. We're not gonna show you in great detail the injury to Alex Smith, there's seismic looking on amazingly thirty three years to the day after thighs men broke his leg, and horrendous fashion the same happens to Alex Smith yesterday by now you've seen it again. We're not gonna show you all the details. He had surgery already yesterday Alex Smith done for the year. And so quote MC. Roy becomes the quarterback. He'd Washington he comes into the game here down seventeen seven and finds Jordan Reed for nine yard touchdown. And it's game within three at seventeen fourteen fourth quarter Texans down one Chi any fair Barron is going to try and kick a fifty four yard field goal to give the Texans. Lean. They in one of the craziest getting during this win streak again seven consecutive wins. They take two point lead Washington to one chance left. This is Dustin Hopkins for this angle and actually looks like it hits the cost mar. But it does not it was actually well short and Washington wines up a two point loser. The Texans get the win and told that you recap where we've been here in that division two weeks ago that Cowboys we left them for dead now FBI favors them to win the division despite being a game behind Washington and the standings, remember they play other on thanksgiving defending champs are four and six are model gives them just a twelve percent chance to turn it around. And when the. Visions. Philly in trouble Washington loses the quarterback. And so Rex Ryan is Dallas. Now the team to beat in the NFC the giants just kidding. Okay. So kidding. I'm gonna city Dallas is in why they could play defense, and they can run the football. Just please Scotland Eoghan give the ball to Zeke. And that's it in the all of a sudden, you don't have to sit back and be goon guru and try to make back Prescott. Dan marino. This is the formula is working here. Give Elliott the football. Whether it's out of the backfield as a receiver or is a runner a good thing. We'll have Dan you were saying that you actually since they brought Amari Cooper in. You're seeing better things in the quarterback. Even of Cooper's numbers haven't been spectacular the offense just looks better. And maybe it's opening things up because the key has been Elliott Elliott and more Elliott. Absolutely. And the reason they got Cooper was. Okay. What do we have in deck and since Amari Cooper, it's come to the Dallas Cowboys Dak has got four touchdowns in one pick. Seventy-one percent completion percentage. He's got a ninety six rating. He's throwing for two fifty a game. And so it's this the things that you can do offensively. When you've got a guy like Mark Cooper. That's a great route runner confidence. Dak has in throwing the ball his way. I mean, he threw a couple of balls yesterday to Cooper that work. Absolutely beautiful throws. So you're seeing a different quarterback right now in deck Prescott. And I'll give him credit because I was critical of them too. But he's playing much better. Now that Cooper's there in Scotland Hans got a weapon to go to. So somehow I'm going to say that the Cowboys are right in the mix. Their defense has been great Vander extras potentially the defensive player of the years rookie. So it's been a really good really good stretch for deck Prescott. What Jerry Jones the the appropriate message when he made the trade. He goes, no, I believe in this football team right now. Whether you don't believe it yourself, I believe in you is the most important message sent throughout that locker room. And you see the team responded out here. They are again, they play Washington in three days with a chance to take over the division right now. Let's get up and go. That's brought to you by nature valley nature makes us better. And you know, who's been much better is Andrew luck. Dan colts beat the titans thirty eight ten. He's thrown seven straight games with three or more touchdowns. And he looks tremendous three. This guy has not been hit in the pocket since week five. I mean, he's lighting the league on fire. Forget comeback player of the year. Right now, forget about it. This guy is going to be in the conversation friend EP from season end they have played their way sort of back into the race in. What is a crazy division? We'll talk more about them as the week goes on. But I agree with you luck right now looks like the luck of Boll. And so does T Y Hilton t y Hilton starting to look like the receiver that remember from a couple years ago? Don't forget luck. He's won seven guys in the history. The NFL with forty touchdown Penn. State five straight games. I've given up a sack like this off. It's a line, by the way, Dr good. They're playing great right now. How about the win for the ravens yesterday Rex behind? Lamar jackson. Can get one hundred seventeen yards on the ground. Twenty seven carries. Is this a formula for success? Does a Lamar Jackson. I become the quarterback of Baltimore. No. I don't think he does to me the best. He looks like the best throwing receiver in the league playing quarterback. So to me, that's what it is. He's a runner period. And the thing is mechanically. This young man has to improve he's underneath the football. All the time. Is he a threat? Do I wanna see him become a great quarterback? Of course. He's just not there right now. But he's an explosive talent. And you know, they won the game why because of their deep defense, and the fact they ran the ball against that's which tees deepens Swiss cheese. The Bengals struggling now falling to five and five both those teams five and five and then Carolina. He was the moment of the day. They scored a touchdown to pull within one point in Detroit with just over a minute ago and riverboat Ron Rivera chose to go for two and the win or at least the lead Cam. Newton's pass fell. Incomplete panthers. Lost twenty two nineteen. Here's. The coach on the decision. I think you go for two on the road to win the game. And that's what I did. I was going for the wind. That's just that's just as simple as that gets. I went for two to win the game on the road. I went for two to win the football game. Okay. Let's all say about that was my mindset, we didn't come here to tie. We didn't come here to lose. We came to win the football game. One of the three of us at this table was once a head coach in the NFL. Did you like the decision Rex Ryan? I absolutely loved the decision. And you know, what if I've Cam Newton I'm going to run this like one hundred percent of the time. Same thing. Ron Rivera did. Yeah. You look into win again. By the way, you have the if you're going to take one quarterback in this league to be a two point specialist on taking Cam Newton. And I would've loved to see Cameron by the way, come on your two hundred fifty pound school head and lean that thing over and get the two points. But you know, what he's got a man wide open came would make this completion. You know? It's a terrifying out at ten. It's a terrible play candidate. He had an hour to throw the ball and a receiver wide open. He has to complete that Pat -solutely, you know, I'm a little bit surprised because to your point coach since cams come into the NFL at the two yard line or closer. He's he's run the ball thirty four times twenty six times for touchdowns. So over seventy five percent. So I've been a few sieve in my praise for north Turner put the ball in hand and. Let them run us McCaffrey something like that. That's my only complaint. The play design wasn't wasn't your greatest strength of the media gives people reputations. And they proceed themselves because since Ron Rivera has been the head coach of the Panthers. He's actually going for two point conversions the fewest times any day in the league yet, we call them riverboat and have the lions fan. I was like oh nautical go for two and cams going to run it Susie star back in the pocket, and he star burp in the baby. I'll die great. We. And I got wide open a camp couldn't hit them. You've got to have Cam and attack mode. They're standing in the pocket like he drew Brees in that situation. I like the fact that they went for but I don't like to play call. I would love to see camp. His I I don't I'm not going to kill north Turner on this thing because the place find, but it's like a big man, you see it. Go get it. Baby guy rather keep the ball in his hand your best players their hands. And to me like, you gotta go for it a million times, look riverboat. Ronnie got that why? Because you have Cam Newton. That's why went forward on all those four towns yet, you got this monster back there and from two yards out if he would like you're saying Jalen you want to see him back there. But as soon as he attacked at lines scrimmage, you'd be like oh gosh. I understand what you're saying. But the end today the plate worked. I mean, we could say he's got a man wide open in the end zone. He an NFL quarterback has to complete that. And maybe you don't win the game. At the end of the day the way Stafford is moving the ball, even without all this. Reverse him in golladay. They're probably gonna drive down there and kick a game winning field goal anyway. Because they have a great kicker, but I understand what you're saying. What I like to see Cam run the football maybe a little bit. But the play work at. Had a man wide open. All right. You know, what a very good night last night, Laura. How about LeBron James LeBron doing LeBron thing daily get over here here? Taking on the Miami Heat is LeBron the Lakers and Lakers up by two heat off the inbound James Trump's at three Lonzo ball throw that had any finishes with the thunderous plan later in the first quarter. Let's go here James starting to feel it for three of those Miami. Uniform reminiscent of Miami vice on love them so much on the cried until they couldn't stop LeBron as he feels good from beyond the arch. Glaciers Lakers up third seen after the first quarter. Second quarter Lakers by ten James gets the patches point line. What did you see there? That's why you give wayside too big books hopefully to protect the rim. The problem is he's not in the game. And therefore LeBron James just an easy win James with twenty eight points at the half. So to the fourth quarter we go Lakers up by fourteen James with forty two. And he just keeps it going hitting a setback for their. Addition to the bronze game Lord that's step back jump shot from two in particular from three he may four those in yesterday's game landed he's done land. Stevenson, their Dalen daring LeBron to shoot a three and cofer fifty one. Now that right. They're not at right there, Laura. Remember, I told you that's gonna leave a stay. Okay. That leaves a stain. We'll get a little more on that. But here's white as I didn't do it. Lance told me to finish the game off. And I'll bet you won't shoot a three. Let me say gopher three. I bet you won't go for your three. So I went for two three point right lanes. I lands for that. And we'll get your thoughts and a second tale. Lebron became the fifth player in NBA history to score fifty points in a game for three different franchises that list. Also includes some good ones, we'll Chamberlain Moses Malone Bernard king, and you guessed it to mock cropper. And so you said it leaves a stain that LeBron does that at the very end of the game. It's already one why terrific performance wonderful game player in his sixteenth year. But that final shot for anybody that it really follows the NBA understands the person that oversees basketball operations with the Miami, Heat his name is Pat Riley. Okay. And LeBron James he didn't end on amicable terms. Therefore, there's a good chance. You may see the Brian James get his number retired with the Lakers. Louis get retire with the heat is situations. Like that don't help it. All. Will you have forty eight points, and you taking advice from whole. So let me get this. Right. The greatest player of arguably of all time is going to blame Lance. Listen to because he went for fifty one point eight, Lance. I'm giving anybody say something anybody say so overall though, I mean LeBron's admitted that he was in a dark place early in the season. What did you make of his performance on this night? It was amazing. Now, if I was going to look deeper to the boss Gor to one thing that I will caution is the usage of the Brian James this early in the season is really hot. When you brought him from Cleveland. The goal was for him to do less and rely on Lonzo Ingram, heart and coups. See if those young players can grow, but will LeBron's as planned so phenomenal early in the season, it kind of stymies, Dan growth, but it puts them in position. However to win basketball games once they added Tyson Chandler, you see this unlock LeBron's game. Because he's not down there banking against power forwards and centers the entire game. He has his legs back in particular from three next time. I'm going to do something crazy. I'm going to tell you to tell me to do it. And then I'll blame you about how about that. Glenn land Sunday was packed with NFL action. But tonight looks to be the game of the year. We'll tell you why. The chiefs are going to have to be ready for anything next on get up. Last made me do it. It is the game. We've had circled for quite a while. Chiefs in Rams, which would be attract me Kansas City leads the league with an offensive efficiency of eighty nine point one out of one hundred the only team since six with a higher offensive efficiency was the seven patriots. Meanwhile, the Rams of course, led by Todd Gurley. He's quarter. Touchdown thirteen straight games. That's the longest freak in Rams history. The longest in the league's dania and Tomlinson a generation ago and the Rams, of course, host this game. Which was originally scheduled to be played at Estadio Azteca in Mexico City, L A one of four unbeaten teams at home this year. And the average wins have come by twelve point Sal paolantonio is in southern California to cover the game for us tonight. And let's start with that by now, we know they get wasn't supposed to be in LA. Now, it is what impact have the constantly shifting logistics had on the Rams. Well, let's created a lot of unusual circumstances for this football team. Michael I talked to a team executive for the Rams last night. The Rams did not arrive back in Los Angeles until quarter to one on Sunday morning that did give the players opportunity to go back to their homes in Thousand Oaks and assess any of the damage in their community. And you know, if you go back to Saturday, they were practising indoors because take a look at this. They were they had a snowstorm in Colorado Springs where the team was practicing at the air force academy. And as you can see Blake Countess and Todd Gurley. They're coming out of the snow into their indoor practice facility there in Colorado Springs, if you will California dreaming on such a winter's day in Colorado for those players, and you know, they've been thinking a lot about California while they were in Colorado Springs. The players did a lot of remote satellite were. Work for a local TV station here in Los Angeles. Helping raise about one point two million dollars for the fire victims in Thousand Oaks and all around Los Angeles in tonight prior to the Monday night game. The LA Rams will of course, pay tribute to the first responders in the victims of the fires here in California greening. Yes, obviously so much more than just a football game that is going on there. But then it kicks off and then they play and let's talk about the chiefs on defense. What if they made their primary emphasis preparing for this high powered L LA offense. Well, there are so many aspects of this game, especially when you put the offense is on the field, and you're plugging the tape and you look at the trends of what they do. And for the Rams it's all about the play action pass. It's been so successful for Jared Goff when he fakes to Todd Gurley when he uses Todd Gurley as a decoy that opens up the rest of the field. Why? Because Todd Gurley has been an absolute beast. He's an MVP candidate. And they amassed so many rushing yards wits. Hod girly that when they use them as decoy, they usually occupy a corner and a linebacker on girly opening things up for the rest of the offense. But it'll be interesting to see tonight. Right greenie without Cooper Cup. Now they have to go through the rest of the season without Cooper Cup. And you know, when you look at Jared goff's completion rate, the Cooper cups have percent completion rate second highest of any quarterback wide receiver dual. Of fifty attempts or more and he had the highest number of red zone talk. It's to Cooper Cup on the team. So how Sean McVay utilizes maybe more two tight end sets. Maybe more Josh Reynolds, which I saw two weeks ago when the Packers came in here and he hit Josh Reynolds for two touchdown passes. So it'll be interesting to see what Sean McVay tries to cook up against this chiefs defense. No question south, thanks a million. We'll Boga McFarland coming up shortly. He of course will be on the call tonight for our coverage on Monday night football game between two of the best in the league. Patrick Mahomes Todd Gurley and company. Eight fifteen eastern. It's also in Spanish on ESPN news, and it's on the ESPN app. You can watch from anywhere. Our coverage begins with Monday night camp down at six. Three. Growing up from what we're live on whatnot. Perspective just cooking. Biggest thing in our cooking. Alarium Alabama's quarterback to a tongue of Loa has been third ical this even but like most quarterbacks you've been much less effective when pressured is completion percentage has dipped by twenty seven percent, and it's QBR by forty percent one under duress. Some of that too could have to do with that knee injury that he's dealing with Bobby carpenter. They enter Lotfi here. And it is rivalry week. The iron bowl a brand of rivalry all its own. But Bobby when you think about the way to handle to it and bringing pressure and trying to blitz him. Sometimes it could make your defense susceptible. But why is it important to do it either way? Well, it's going to be feast or famine Lord, that's the only way to slow down this Alabama office. So they're too good. Or too talented Damon Harris can get it going with the running game. They can push the ball down the field. And to me the only way you have a chance is to get the two hundred via lower. You've gotta find a way to make sure that he starts feeling that need. He feels the pressure around his feet hit him. You're not come around a little bit. And that's gonna give you the ability then to hopefully slowdown that office a little bit. Held them to turn points in the first half. I don't know if anyone else will. But that's the only way I think you can do it. Why was that against it at all holding Alabama ten points in the first half being tied at halftime? Why is it the best thing that could have happened for Alabama, Dan because all year, we've talked about men how Alabama so good. They could beat the villes. They could be greenish jets. You know, there's the greatest game ever. And they're like man everyone's loving on my team way too much. And so they go out on Saturday and play the citadel and ten ten and the citadel has a chance to take the lead of the second half. And Nick savings is sitting there like thank you sit it out because now I get to go to this team who still young team in a way for Alabama. And he's going to go in there. Go you guys think you're so good, right? You're tied with the citadel. We fumbled the ball. We turned it over. We couldn't stop the run. It's the greatest thing leading into the iron bowl in the SEC title. And probably the playoff for them is the absolute perfect situation for Nick Sabin to use his MO. Yeah. In triple options agreed equalizer. We'll have more on Georgia Georgia Tech later on in the week on this show when you think about Auburn once again, though, Bobby that d- line does still have some dudes. I mean they've been down this year. Are they up to the task against Alabama's old line? That's been really good. Well, do you love to be able to bring forward? That's every defensive coordinator when they draw it up. Hey, we'll bring four we'll get. There will be able to play are seven men coverage behind him. But they're going to have to add pressure in there. To a combined time he's good with his feet Albright has some horses upfront. They have the athletes have four losses this year. But I still think the only way the only way is you have to sell out and try to hit him and make you uncomfortable. Find the unicorn, right? I mean this Auburn blitzes Alabama. They will get boat raced right boat race, Alabama's got five guys at eighteen yards. A catch to good. Okay. Believe it or not football power index. Now savers Clemson more than it does Alabama though Vegas strongly prefers the tied at P. I would have Clemson is nearly a half point favorite over Bamut in a game on a neutral field. Now, look depending on how the playoff works out. They could end up matching up. How do we feel about this? Bobby with Clemson being favored over Valence. We're close to those guys they have the horses. Like you mentioned where they could bring four and get their Vilson. Trouble. Wards can push the ball down the field. They have a talented running game. But to me, it's it's the defensive line, and it's Trevor Lawrence to give Clinton a chance against what everybody views is the prohibitive favorites to win the college football. Boil this is exactly what coast. But once I mean, the giant Alabama. And now we've got a team. That's really good. That is favored over them for me. It's tribe. CTN? It really is. I mean, we talk this time of year in college football who can be in the Heisman Trophy conversation. He is absolutely earned that right? If that's the matchup. It'll be a fantastic game. Okay. Later on in the show. These guys talking Notre Dame in one of my friends here thinks that Notre Dame can afford a loss to USC and still get into college football playoff. We'll find out who that is when you're on stick around with us today because we've got all kinds more coming your way at nine thirty Rex we'll tell us a valuable lesson. He learned on Sunday. Why you can never take anything for granted.

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