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Tax Breaks For Me But Not For Thee

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Tax Breaks For Me But Not For Thee

"The little i'm arnold hamilton editor of the oklahoma observer. And i'm marianne martin and this is observer cast your weekly deep dive into oklahoma politics policy powered by the oklahoma observer democracy foundation. We have the pleasure of talking with representatives. Andy field gates who is represented for my hometown. Where i grew up. Yeah exactly and it's i don't know they'll cities place. I think anyone gets too far away from but so he he ac- wet. How long have you been in the legislature. Now so i was elected in Twenty eighteen my first year was in two thousand nineteen. So i've been you know two and a half years. And what if two and a half years has been and And as a member of the minority caucus which it's small but mighty Andy is often on the floor as a member of the opposition. The i li- i like to call talk about this with that leader virgin quite a bit but you know he. He also has a heart for education and education in the state n. he has a very unique background An education in various fields. And you see that with what he brings to the floor. And so this session. He worked for a bill. That eventually got vetoed. And you know. Maybe that wouldn't be a big deal but for a democrat to bill that far in this session in this legislature is even that more. It's it's that much more devastating just because it was a really good hearted bill and it would have done really did work for people and so we're here tonight talking with representative about house bill. Eighteen forty nine But i a representative. Tell us who you are and what you do in a little bit about your background okay. So i am. Indicated represent house district ninety four. Which is my hometown. Del city and southeast oklahoma city My wife and i raised our kids. There i went to graduate graduated city in one thousand nine hundred four and Went from there graduated from central state university back then with a degree in computer science and immediately moved into corporate technology leadership and so i spent my career Leading technology teams at Small to mid sized companies the last seventeen years before my election. I was with the oklahoma. And where i was director of new media. Technologies and digital transformation and so my team's built news. Okay dot com and the oklahoma's website the oklahoma's Mobile applications and i did enterprise project planning on the volunteer side of things We were talking before the podcast about my involvement with a program called oklahoma. Close up Which takes high school kids to the state capitol and we spent three and a half days there Kind of looking at government from the inside the people are making the decisions And i did that from The year after i graduated nineteen eighty five all the way through my election And i'm actually back. I'm leading the steering committee. This year and part of the oklahoma close up foundations and i spent a lot of time. Volunteering in classrooms That's been another passion of mine. My wife's classroom teacher. My dad was a classroom teacher. My older brother's classroom teacher. I'm a wanna be. And i had such a fabulous Academic experience with my dell city schools. And so to me. It's way to pay back. I'm a semi professional musician. And so i work a lot with jazz band kids with the leadership. Kids and the nether. That's another south spot for me. I was a band kid at bill city too. So yeah so you were there under airfield in there yet I get to play with bob. I'm not surprised. Yep yep so anyways. Adele city reminiscing here. It'll get worse so anyways go on. Yeah i professional musician yes. Yeah and My my passion for a government and helping people understand government was really how i wound up in the legislature itself It was a combination of a couple of things so my predecessor. Scott inman with somebody. I knew through the oakland close program. And i always ended the program Challenging the students in the program to take what they've learned at the state capital go back to their communities and make a difference and when scott was in his final term he to me and said you ought to running for office and i told him absolutely. Not it wasn't a me and He did that did that to me. Three times and i teased him. That i felt like peter in the bible. I kept denying. You know in the third time he says to me. You know andy you need to take what you've learned at the capitol and go back and make a difference for your community airplay. There's dirty pool. And i told my prayer about it and you know Jamie and i did and about a week later. I called him back and said yeah. Let's do this. It's been a wonderful wonderful experience Having an opportunity helping people with government. Yeah yeah i mean. And i on that because i don't think most people understand how much you do have to help people with government as representative the people who call your office asking for help like is your job to help them find answers. Yeah and The gentleman who was the state representative. When i was in highschool gary steen. Somebody i reached out to when i was running and one of the very first connections. I made in gary shared with me. Just how critical that constituent relations piece is when people reach out to you. They're at their wit's end you're not the first call your hopefully the last call when you can make government work for people it's just such a tremendous feeling and i wish frankly that government worked better so that we had fewer opportunities to do that but Know we have two extreme examples that have been going on over the last year. One is the horrific disastrous roll. Out of real. I d and all the impact on people trying to get driver's licenses and the other then was unemployment with The disaster that we had with Unemployment computer systems so like honestly ancient platform. Yes but you know it was five years ago when the legislature funded replacement of those systems. Okay and so for four years happens. They did nothing. Yeah that's that's the rub that right there right. I mean it could have been used but it wasn't We could have been ready but we you know we were kinda rocking along. Feeling good because you know unemployment wasn't very high and so it wasn't a priority issue until it was till everything kind of went off a cliff and then it was. Jeez yeah no you know. Many many years ago. I suggested that there'd be a platform for one of the key platforms for democrats should be disaster preparedness. And it's not even it was it wasn't even about like technology infrastructure at the time it was. We have ice storms and tornadoes and severe weather on the regular. In this state you know having an infrastructure that can withstand all of that which has only gotten worse. But then you see kind of our Telecommunications in our technological infrastructure in the state really get tested last year. And then this real i d role at like. You're saying it's stunning. How we are to take care of any of these kind of twenty twenty one problems you know when people say oh we need to run it like a business. Yeah but we don't need to run it like a failing casino like the last president and his business. Okay well then. Why aren't we right. I mean because we've had we've had gubernatorial control for so long of that mindset and yet we still have such a terrible infrastructure if we can barely brag that we have bridges and roads that pass muster now You know just now. Moving to cashless are cashless. Tolling i don't know it's it's yeah the hidden secret in that that The little elimination that pipe pass where they're doing the plate readers. There's going to be an increase in. Who toll cost. Yeah in some posting about this and we lived in texas for a number of years and The turn the toll roads were the best roads. Take to get anywhere you know. The the most let fewest potholes quickest But we dang well near bankrupted because it just automatically deducted from your credit card that you had to have on file. And so i i just i can only imagine if now they're just billing you How that's gonna that's going to impact people so in the thing that everybody needs to remember ought to remember. Is that the turnpike process. The toll road process was intended to to pay off the bonds that are Sold to create those roads and we in oklahoma and most other states have those bonds in perpetuity. As soon as we finish them out we get a new set of bonds and we spend that money on other things and and it shouldn't be that way turnpike's ought to be come free roads at some point You know i'd never heard that before but that's a really good. Yeah i mean that's a really good point i'll give you the argument against it though. And that is if you have toll roads in strategic places. You're going to make money off of people who are traveling through your state share but you know i mean like i forty four. For instance you know turning into the toll road. That's i don't think that's -sarily the through road like i thirty five and i forty as you know. I don't think people go you know catty-cornered through the through the that seems like mostly intrastate routes more than a you know interns convenience thing yup. Yeah yeah right. So speaking of tolls and taxes and roads. let's turn to your legislation So tell me how you came up with the idea behind it. Was it a constituent request. Bill that that's always the thing. Where'd you get this. Bill is a constituent requests Or you know. Where did this bill come from in. What was the idea behind it. Describe it i of course Okay so house bill. Eighteen forty nine was a bill that would extend a public schools sales tax exemption to those school support organizations affiliated with the school and approved by the district and there's a sanctioning process that the organizations have to go through and so think about football quarterback clubs and band parent clubs and drama clubs and spanish clubs. It was intended for that kind of organization. And where the idea came from specifically. I'm smiling here a little bit. Because you mentioned gerald warlick. Yes harold taught at kerr. Yes and yes well a friend of mine as well and i was the ban. President ban president at kerr. After you know gerald probably been gone about six seven years at that point But we ran into a situation where we were trying to get a sales tax exemption so we could purchase blue and gold sausage sausage sales. Sorry does get where oklahoma than that. No and i went round and round with the oklahoma tax commission Spent about oh five days over the course of about two months just going back to the tax commission arguing with them about that and the bottom line. I'm was less. You are a a pta organization and official pta organization or you are a pto organization with a five. Oh one c. Three otherwise you're not in those are the only two school support organizations that are entitled to a sales tax exemption related to the school and So the issue with the band parents Translated to my wife's school parkview elementary. Oh that's where. I went to elementary school. So did i. Oh when it was brand new school. Oh oh my goodness but still i. Wasn't that far behind anyways. This is all just wild. Okay yeah so any who the pta. There realized that they were sending about eighty cents of every dollar that they earn to the national. Pta just so that they could keep their designation as a pta so they decided to dissolve that relationship and to convert to a pto only to discover they would lose their tax a sales tax exemption unless they went through the five. Oh one c. Three process and so i spent time looking for a attorney to do pro bono. Work to help them set up and you know looked at the idea of having to create incorporate themselves and do annual tax filings. And all those things that go with the five oh one c. Three and decided ultimately they would just pay the sales tax since and so those two things we're kind of the defining the reason why carried the bill. Well okay so let's talk about the sales tax for just a second because i think about Sales taxes on groceries. Because i lived in states that did not have sales taxes on groceries in. It was amazing when we moved back. Just like the difference. It makes basically purchasing power right. If you i mean that sales tax like that adds up really quickly on a on a bill you know and so for organizations like a p. t. a. or pto or you know just mabel the stretch those dollars furthur seems like that would be beneficial thing especially considering the circumstances so many of our schools are in where you know supplies Resources come out of the pockets at the people at the school. Not necessarily the district or the state right so so circling back around to the band thing you know when i was at chelsea. High school We had general motors here. Still open as a plant and we had a number of other things that were driving a lot of additional dollars to the district. And so i've been told by old band directors that we would receive about fifty thousand dollar stipend per year for band equipment and repairs and music etc. That sounds like so much. Yeah and by the time. I our kids were at del. Cid the high school that number had dropped to one thousand dollars a year. Oh my gosh. Now i mean complete would be reversed right like you would think you could be like a thousand dollars in the eighties. Turning into fifty. Thousand dollars in the naiad or something but oh wow why we were much more fluent as a district at that point and that was part of it but the other part of it is a lot of those dollars were diverted to critical things in the district. You gotta remember. This was a time when the state had stopped paying for textbooks for instance and so we were using Millage does our ad valorem taxes to go purchase textbooks because the state had stopped paying for them. We had to shut down extracurricular sports at the elementary schools. Because we didn't have enough money because the state had cut what we were sending a schools. So i don't begrudge the district for the choices they made right but that you know we're we're selling all this stuff and we still are today. We they are still telling the stuff just so they can go out and buy music and do basic repairs to an instrument now so another fun fact. My husband is a former band director. Oh yeah yeah so. We're like deep with band his big deal and And he likes so many teachers when we moved out of state he just didn't try to teach anymore and so he is now an accountant but You know bands very near and dear to harper. I remember like he went from a school district. That is still Very affluent to a rural more rural school district. It's i think it's five six eight now but Just him trying to stretch those dollars. And it's not just about band right like it's outlet student council. It's about ffa all these additional extracurricular activities which are as important as the actual curriculum right. It's not like will also i just. I think there's an equity in what gets cut. And what doesn't you know. I mean there. The yeah there is. Some of it is is like you're saying i don't wanna slam the district decisions. But you know if you have the choice between sports program and arts arts and humanities programs. I think we know where the cuts would come from. I think miguel has been very equitable in those areas. Grateful to the folks they're making those decisions But you know however it's cutting the baby in half any way you look at it. Take a look at the comparison between Oklahoma and texas for instance in the amount of investment that they make and you know that eleven hundred dollars per kid difference amounts to a million and a half dollars at chelsea high school. Oh my gosh. that's what we're short changing our kids at our school. And when we talk about. You know the competitiveness not just of our kids in state but when they're having to compete against kids and other states to go to other colleges that million and a half dollars is really hurting them cutting off our nose to spite our faces and there's folks out there who crossed their arms and just kind say oh you know. We can't give them that money because we don't trust them because they're just going to teach critical race theory and marxism and i. I think the best thing that i've seen about about critical race theory is someone tweeted. If your kid is learning critical race theory there in law school. They're not learning they're not learning it in elementary school. Great point and it's absolutely true. I learned a little bit about critical race. Theory in my doctoral program. Kimberly kinchen crenshaw eastern to understanding race gender feminism sexuality. All of that but yeah. There's no way i'm sorry for in. Oklahoma are have never been taught critical race theory and so no. I think that that's an interesting point. You know but then. I look at So back to your bill. So i i know here in norman. For instance like i'll what was operation school bell was really kind of mobilizing Specifically after the legislation got vetoed satellite. You know norman the largest communities in the state. Norman has a very large title population. and so the need to give supplemental supplies to students You know is absolutely essential just to help. Kids make an i mean at our school My elementary school we cut across To kind of different neighborhoods and So we have a fairly disparate kind of mix of students in. There's kids that have everything you'll ever need in those kids who you know. I'm not sure they know where they'll get. Their next meal of the school doors are open and so every year. There's like that family that like we need to raise money. The family doesn't get infected. You know making sure someone has closed making sure someone has school supplies and i'm just wondering you know what difference does tax exemption would have made for an organizations these extra organizations that should not have to exist. I would say yeah to make sure that these kids have the supplies that they need to go to school. And you know Some of it. I think is and i'm gonna take the governor. A little bit to task about this is coming from a position of privilege. Yeah and i think about it in this context. So i spent six years on the mid del public schools foundation. The last two years is the president of the foundation raising money for our schools and in the course of one of our retreats. We were talking about How we fund raise it at the various schools and we do have one high school in the district that is is pretty affluent on the east side of the district. it wasn't always the one that was affluent. Is the funny thing but yeah it used to be the cow. Towns aren't coun- right. That's where all the folks where yet exactly. Well those are. All you know large acres is now and you know so and anyway the the point of this is the person i was talking to on. The board had talked about the fact that their softball team at the middle school had just had a fundraiser. And they were trying to raise five thousand dollars and they just had a parent come in and write a check for five thousand dollars and they said. It's not hard to raise money at all. And i looked at them and said you realize that's more money than the football quarterback club. At del city. High school were raised in an entire year. Well they said you're what did you just need to work harder. No don't that's always the answer though. Isn't it like they just need to work harder. Yeah and it's grit. And you know it's just if only you were doing the right things and making the right choices and so as a deci- an aside like an illustration When i was at dell city you know deputy had the senior lot which was the front the junior sophomore lot And the parking lots were full at school and if you got there late you had parkway out in the sophomore lot or if not by the baseball fields or the marching band. The marching field on the pavement right. So if you set a play you can find a spot I was driving down sunny wayne. One time for some reason Past the high school. And i was like jeeze is it. Is it a school holiday because there was no cars in the front law. Yup and i think. I i talked to scott admitted about it. He was like no the kids. Just don't have cars anymore. You know and so just the the disparity between or can we just call it white flight between dell city midwest city in carl. Our district's like this. I mean For instance the putnam city schools. How have how bad district has changed so many so much over the years. yes When i was growing up that was the north side. Those were the rich kids zeno Forget about edmund. Who cared about edmund. It was like the putnam city schools. But also i like for instance like enorm- in here they have sped week. Were the high schools. Raise money You know students performing selfish caesar. Whatever in in an edmund they have the same thing they raised hundreds of thousands of dollars i i. We were in plano schools for awhile. Plano the in those kids would raise nearly a million dollars in their similar things. And i remember inman telling me he goes dealt does density. Kids were so proud when they raised thirty thousand dollars. Yeah i mean so just the. Yeah that dad. That can come in bright that check. Yeah like it's nothing you know. i mean. consider the whole team to tournament. You know I it just seems like low when we go back to why. The governor vetoed your legislation. You know he says we already have an overly complicated tax structure and like. Is that really a problem. It isn't his is told that his veto message is the shortest one. That people can remember even understand it. I'm sorry dislike like to talk trash like we are so sorry. No but i do have to put this up. I'm going to change virtual background here for just a moment. I put this together exactly right. I said let's just make it real simple. We'll have grover. Explain it to governor eyebrow and and if maybe if i'd made this both public and private schools than perhaps he wouldn't vetoed it. That's the only thing i can think i mean. Maybe if it was the booster clubs at the private schools you know if you had cancelled that group in not like there aren't enough loopholes for the private schools anyways and you know all of that kind of came in the context of when that veto happened. It was about within an hour after i sit up and gave the closing debate on senate bill ten eighty which was the major expansion of the tax credit reimbursements that we give to people who donate to private schools. So can we just go back to this idea that it's public money like we started talking about roads and everything but like i mean this is. These are public dollars. They should be accountable right. They should be if you're going to receive some sort of tax credit tax something. You're going to pay taxes. There should be some accountability some structure for accounting for that many some sense of a again accountability some some transparency to the usage and so to reward private schools. In a way where you can get a tax credit for donating You have no idea how money's being used so to a degree. There is some of that because the money doesn't Doesn't go directly to the private schools. Okay it goes to scholarship. Granting organizations and they are required to produce a report. and but it's a quadrennial report once every four years. They have to provide some information about what they've been doing And it you know they have to say how many low income kids that they serviced and that of thing and the law says they're supposed to be meeting The same percentages as the state itself terms of averages for low income kids The last quad report was released three years ago at that time. The largest of these granting organizations was only serving about fifty four percent of our fifty. Two percent of their scholarships were going to kids. Who would qualify for free milk at a school. Okay so in. The state of oklahoma sixty two percent of our kids qualify for free or reduced lunch so the sixty two percent. We get a free milk. What's what really kind of appalling about those Private school scholarships is it. A family of four can make a hundred and forty seven thousand dollars a year and still qualify for being me for being media enough to need a scholarship. And i think that's just obscene. You know the governor's family eight people in his family. He can make two hundred and forty five thousand dollars a year. Wiki give one hundred thousand dollar a year. Pay raise and his family would still qualify. And it's not just quality you don't qualify every year you qualify once right so if you're that young family and you just had a couple of kids new start when your kids in private school and you're only making four forty thousand dollars between you and your and your spouse right so your kid qualifies and then along the way you have kids year after year after year. You know you've got a dozen kids and you're now making you're the ceo of a corporation because you've made it to the top so you're making a half million dollars a year. You still qualify your family every member of it's still qualifies 'cause you qualify once and you're done you could win the lottery and your family would still qualify as being needy for one of those. Needs based scholarships. Yeah it's obscene. Yeah so that's what the ten eighty debate was about you. Know what so I'm we talked about explanation. So there's a people need to understand tax credits versus tax deductions so a tax deduction is When you're calculating your total income and you know say you're making fifty thousand dollars a year and you donate a thousand dollars to your church so your gross income goes from fifty thousand to forty nine thousand dollars for the iraq and in the state of oklahoma. You pay five cents on the dollar for that so you know. I'm not gonna do the math in my head but you're not gonna make very much now on the other hand if that's given to you give them back to you as a tax credit. It's on the very bottom of your taxes. So you find out that you owe the state fifteen hundred dollars right with that tax credit. If i donated two thousand dollars to private school scholarship. I would get back a minimum of five hundred dollars if i guaranteed to do it for two years just wrote down on a piece of paper that i would donate two years in a row. I get back. Seven hundred and fifty dollars. It's dollar for dollar as opposed to that little itty bitty change and yes yes in tax credits versus taxes. Actions and people don't necessarily understand the difference but it's a significant difference. So i i'm looking at the votes right now like i. I you know he talks about we. Really try and teach you know how the process works. And this did not pass by a thin margin at all. You know hundred and twenty two members across both chambers. I mean you in the house. You got seventy two four. There was twenty seven excused. You know and so but overwhelming majority passed in the senate Thirty five to eleven in the nays. Let's see. I just gotta read out the nays here. So the nays. And the senate were senator bergstrom who's also a former schoolteacher himself Senator dom senator daniels hamilton jets mccartney which kind of surprises me Merrick newhouse quinn. Rogers in taylor so definitely a rural contingent there but still thirty five votes in the senate seventy votes in the house and it gets to governor And i'm just like so. It's heartbreaking on a whole other level that democrat. Got this bill through the house know. Got it through the legislature and he still vitas in so i just think like i think it's it's it's it would be too easy to dismiss the idea that an hour after you debated he decides to veto the bill right especially when i'm calling him out at the end. I concluded by debate by reminding my colleagues about all of the promises that we had been made. You know if we just passed open transfer expansion for schools and if we Eliminated the two year. Look back on budgeting for schools. And you know so. They could talk about their ghost. It student s- you know and all that stuff if we did those things and we wouldn't hear tax credits private school tax credits and here. We are hearing that. And i said you know you're told that the capital you have one thing and that is your own personal integrity and if you don't have that you have nothing and we have leadership here. We have a governor here. Who said you know what if you will vote for these other things. You won't hear the have to hear this bill and yet here. We are today hearing this bill. They got the mind and we got the shaft and i. It's not well. I'm gonna i'm gonna tell you. I don't think that's a coincidence. At off from my personal experience so it could be. I mean i'm not going to give him the benefit out on this land. I'm just telling you. His history is not to be compassionate in that regard. You know i mean he. He's been indicative i don't think i don't spiteful spiteful yes i don't think Vetoing this bill was anything. It wasn't for the best intentions of kids. You know like to for a bill that was about kids in public schools to say to chalk it up to you. We'll this tax is makes our tax code. That much more complicated like does it really mean six other significant changes to the tax code. Not counting the the holy crap just the whole that. Like the way we calculate students that's ultimately so much more complicated or confounding than giving key. Ta's tax exempt status. But you know it really. Is that much more complicated It was two paragraphs of change. And it was you know like seven sentences to paragraphs so you can't tell me the governor and his staff were not watching the debates on that very very closely The outcome of that vote and it was one of the governor's head Initiatives right to get past and so they absolutely were watching it and whether they chose to veto out of spite or not. I don't know but yeah Yeah i mean. I think anyone who thinks it wasn't out of spite as much nicer. I mean so. I think history has shown that he doesn't do things because it's good policy. He doesn't do things necessarily he. Does it out in the and honestly like education legislation that passed this year fed into special interests. I mean so much of what he does feeds into these special interest Privatization is at the end of the day. It's about the privatization of public services across like in. So many ways medicaid medicaid managed care organizations. That's privatization of managed care. That's all that is. We're gonna put two point four billion dollars into a black hole and just trust with an. I mean that's the thing. These organizations are known for their lack of transparency. You know they they may be able to track their members Like progress through the healthcare system a little bit more closely than our current medicaid at agency can. But that doesn't mean that you know. They don't have incredible amounts of overhead. None of which the public would have any you know is on less less the legislature right and so But also just like. I don't know You know we're we're closing correctional facilities around the state. Okay say what you will about that. In terms of our incarceration of human bodies in the state of hama. Where's that gonna go. You know like who where those inmates gonna go. Where those dollars going to go. I just i say where they should go at. So we pass state question. Seven eighty seven. Eighty one in two thousand sixteen and Seven eighty said. We're going to decriminalize a number of things. Seven one said if we save money from decriminalizing by not sending people to prison. We need to take that money and invested in mental health and substance abuse treatment across all seventy seven counties in oklahoma right so the first estimate on that came out in two thousand eighteen. So it's been three years there but it was five years since it was passed. You know how much we've put into the seventy one fund over the five year period zero. Oh wow nothing. I asked about it. My first year asked about it last year and aspect. To begin this year zero. You know our our Administrator of the courts is jerry. Askins our former lieutenant governor and when she presented to us two years ago The budget for the courts. I asked at that time. Why is it that we only have thirteen counties. In oklahoma that have mental health diversion courts so we have sixty four counties in the state. Do not have a mental health. Diversion court a mental kfi. That's a lot of geography in the state of oklahoma. Yeah and and if you have a mental health situation that happens there And you're in one of those sixty four counties. Guess what you don't pass go. You collect two hundred dollars you go to jail. You're incarcerated if you're on one of those thirteen counties you have an opportunity. The diversion court process to get a deferred sentence. Go get treatment. Take care of your issue. Lead a normal life right but so we have unequal justice happening in the state. And i said gerry. How much money do we need to give corrections. Give the courts to provide Diversion courts across all seventy seven counties and she said it's not a money issue not for the courts the issue is we don't have those resources available in those counties so if we had a diversion court there was no place to send those people. That's what seven eighty one would have fixed and we've put zero into it well in and we know that these courts have amazing. Our ally right. I mean in terms of productive citizens. Well do we want productive citizens who can take care of their families at be. You know carrying in involved parents because they're not stuck in jail. You know if we want all of that or if we want perhaps you know incarcerated human bodies who worked for cheap labor. That's like that's all that's our choices here right for these individuals and we know it is so hard to get out of that system once you are in it because it it just. It's impossible to surmount. If you you know the constant debt the constant vs all of that and so i just in terms of roi but also you just think of okay so this access That could have made. I think again back to norman. Enormous definitely in town of haves and have nots. Edmund is a town of haves and have-nots and you see at individual schools right if that one. Pta you know that one school organization had been able to just stretch dollars just a little bit further. even i will contend. They shouldn't have to write like they should not have to supplement resources at the schools at all but they have to You know that would be a huge. Roi right. i mean just that kid with the backpack. That kid with the school supplies that kid who has the whiteboard so he can participate. He or she can participate in the classroom. So that teacher doesn't have to buy it out of their own pocket You know just in terms of roi like investing in humans instead of an exactly yeah on education. That really was the thrust of my debate on ten. Eighty on senate bill. Ten eighty but the investment wasn't an education. As much as i am a huge proponent of education and we already talked earlier about the million half dollars that we ought to be putting into density highschool for instance. The number one problem. I firmly believe is trauma and the effects of trauma on kids who They deal with food insecurity at home. They deal with justice involved. Parents they have parents who are self medicating either through medical marijuana or alcohol or drugs or gambling addictions all of those things right and you know the you look at the a scores of our kids. In this state we lead the nation another one of those bottom ten statistics that we don't like to talk about but in adverse childhood experiences and it's not just the kids who are in the poor schools or in rural schools it's the kids in edmonton public schools. It's the kids at putnam north. And so my my thrust of my argument there was whether we put five million fifty million or five hundred million dollars into education and whether it's in private schools or public schools. We won't fix the problems in oklahoma because those kids are not in a position to come to school and learn. We have great teachers and oklahoma. There's a reason why other states poach our teachers wrestler. Teachers know how to do more with less than anybody else in the nation. Because you're right like that is not an asset. I mean it's it's like yet that's great but like no. Let's let's build them up. Let's tools that. They need to do their survival skill and we punish our teachers. We've created these toxic environments for our teachers to teach in right and and we abused them on a regular basis. And talk about how they're doing all these marxist things and all this indoctrination in schools scribbles. I couldn't understand that on the one hand. We want our kids in class. We want him back and in person instruction on the other hand. We don't want those teachers teaching because they're going to indoctrinate our kids. Make up your mind like what you think about all the things we ask teachers to do in this state right. They're responsible for childhood nutrition. They're responsible for social emotional learning for these kids. They're responsible for making sure that kids abuse happening to them gets reported in all of these things take went to teach. That's what they wanna do. And we need to be looking at society. Not government government's probably a piece of it but we need to be looking at society and oklahoma and saying you know what why is it. We are doing all of these things to our kids. That leads us to look at our classrooms as some kind of salvation place to these kids when a kid feels more comfortable at school. They need as at home. We have a problem. Yeah well and it's just it's it's it's just fascinating to me that so much of so much of the governor's policies if you can call him. That hinge on this idea of improving outcomes. You know i if it if it's not under the mantra of ten state which is a joke at this point to You know just 'cause that's really like they are in. I mean his wife is out there. You know the first lady's out there talking about resilience you know he's touting the documentary on aces and So i mean they are well aware of its importance in its impact. They know that it can really screw a kid up. And i mean they know all like the biochemistry and how it just changes everything. Then it's just like but it's just like what you're saying. I think they tie it back to that will. Why don't you work harder. You know it's not really about the what such it's really. Are you know it's like well you know it's just maybe they just need to go to private school and because those are the families that can afford the rest of the tuition bill. I guess you're giving him a those scholarships nothing more than private school discounts. Yeah right right. I mean it doesn't it doesn't knock down the cost at all. I mean it. It's still going to be the poor kids sweeping the floors. Not the rich kids you know if they actually go but if actually go yeah i mean and and they're going to get kicked out all the kids are having all those issues trauma issues. I guess what you're you're not going to pass the interview to even get into the private school. Private school family won't have the money to pay the Admission fee to get you the interview in the first place but assuming that those things the first time you screw up you're gone right and your back to the public schools that all kids you know in in all no matter what shape the kid is in. They have to take that kid in rather than make it a little bit easier to make sure that kid has the pack of crayons any they just he continually makes it harder because the tax code might be too complicated. Yeah well I really appreciate this conversation. I know i'm sorry. I'm arnold can be here. He was taking a much deserved trip with With beds and so. I'm glad i get time with you Again because you have such a unique background inexperience in. Oh you just happy to be adele city grads and oh that doesn't hurt at all. I love running into other i if the finished thing and so And you know what. I never really It never really real. It never occurred to me how much it mattered to me until my twentieth reunion and In two thousand seventeen. And that was like i had the best time i helped plan it but it was just the best time and it was like okay. You know just the kinda go back because it's important. It was some of my classmates Teach i think she teaches she. She works at del city in some capacity. And just use the opportunity to reach out to We have this many homeless kids and we need help. You know like stopped stocking the pantry in stockings items and it was like it was such an eye opening experience to kind of Kind of reinvigorate that touch point with you know the town that i grew up in because i mean you know this was always Stump speech but it's absolutely true. There was just there some magic about miguel specifically eighties and nineties. When we were coming through and they knew how to really just get kids on the path. I needed to be on. You know. I mean what i believe. That was I i look back on my childhood and all of the people who invested in me. That's why spend so much time giving back to the kids around here now. But i look at the people in our community who didn't have to. They chose to. They saw something in me and decided you know. I'm going to help this kid in this way or that way and i mentioned being able to go to In our pre conversation going to national close up and went took a trip to washington. Dc twice when. I was in high school by parents had zero money and it was people in the community. Who helped me raise every penny to go on those trips. You know and i. And i don't know that it's different necessarily but i just feel like maybe the ethos of the community was very different because the same thing happened when i was a nice school. We I take very first plane trip Very first ever as a oh was it. Senior year had been senior year. Because imminent ira on our mock trial team and we went state and we went to nationals and And so we had to raise money to get to nashville and Some marie davis who was our principal in junior high. And then we moved on to administer was my counselor. They'll say the might you know and then Will you know a net. Nanny fall and i mean just all of 'em right but i mean it was it was it was the parkview. Pta that kicked in dollars to help get us to nashville. And so i don't know. I mean it's just there was just something about miguel you know and it's just it's just changed and i don't think it's worse. I just think they have so much more to deal with. Now you know as a district in terms of Hardship economic hardship in the community. But there is some magic you know and so back to my twentieth reunion I was like we have so many doctors here. We have so many doctors and there it was just. It was amazing. And so i don't know if you're still involved with the foundation. Are you still involved with the foundation. Not directly. I am very close to the folks well because We we know. We talked with superintendent cobb last year and i just i pitched to him. I was like. I know some of us would love to be involved with the foundation And so all of this is just to go back to you. Know the promise of the life in front of you dude education. I mean it turns on a pin. You know i mean it just takes that one that one rerouting for me. It was odyssey in eighth grade. Gt programs and miguel were phenomenal. Yes at i have to stop you on the. Yeah so. Do you know who jim howell is. No jim how the state senator for midwest city okay in the seventies and he's the guy who got the constitution reserve fund of the rainy day fund put into for the state of oklahoma. Really powerful guy. Okay okay but he's also the father of the gifted and talented programs for the state of oklahoma. Wow still alive. And i was one of the first groups coming through with the gifted and talented over at kerr junior high but my gosh it was just phenomenal. You know an elementary school. They would best to pleasant hill. You know and one day a week. And that's how i met so many people that are still my friends to this day. You know like Because we were all highland park in towns in parkview. Were all at pleasant hill on the same day And so i met all these. These people i mean these are still some of my closest friends but it was just like they. They found those kids and we all came from i. I would not have gone to college because my parents didn't go to college. And i would not have known anything about college if they hadn't put me in this class was taught us. This is what you need to know for. Call it but they just saw those kids in they plex us out and like here's what you need to do in. I mean that's what education can do for kids. You know and just makes a world of difference and when you think of how much state makes it harder for that happen. In that much heart again the whiteboards the crayons the pins the pencils in kids need and that's literally what those taxes have just would have gone towards if i'm not mistaken. Yeah no they're going with us the backpacks all of that. I mean because that's what. I know operation school. Bill does so andy. I'm so glad we got choctaw. Fidel a little bit because it just does my heart. 'cause i mean they just made all the difference so i'm gonna make a pitch for your Your audience speaking of midddle. So del city high school is going to be the The state location for the student council elfi. They did this five years ago. i think. But it's coming. Yes yeah in the rebuilt auditorium which is going to be exciting And so they're raising funds so you might reach out to some of your classmates stick anybody. It's a labor of love for the teacher over there. Kristie cooper and i will share this with you. So brooklyn stewart was Part of the group that helped put on the studio at del city high school. All the kids from across the state came to see our school. He comes out of it the next year and becomes the states do co. president and goes to nationals and he's elected as some national. I don't remember exactly what position was just outstanding parkview. Kid those kids out right. Oh my gosh okay public information. You have my email address similar information. And i'm gonna send it to everybody because i know we've left it back this and however whatever we can do you know it's just we're a different bunce as miguel very little happier but by god. We're we'll do something so we'd take care of each other we do. And that's the thing like it didn't really hit me until two thousand seventeen but you know it's like damn we're we're it so Anything you've ever fugate. Thank you so much We'd love to have you back I mean let's talk legislation at the end of the year like bills. You're going to file and what your ideas are and Let's see if we can get. You can't get things finish line again for you. So i'm going to propose a couple of things i know won't get past the finish line but right thing and yeah people thinking very good. Well thank you and have a good night and we'll talk to you again. Okay all right. Yeah here on that server cat. Please tell your friends about us. Also if you're interested in sponsoring overcast. Give arnold hamilton a call at four zero five. Four seven eight seven zero zero or drop them an email at a hamilton okay observer dot org you also can support. 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Brent Henley Leadership Exemplified by a Life Well Lived

"It's with a heavy heart that we released this podcast. With brought to hanley sadly brent passed away after our interview. We offer condolences to his family and extensive network of friends. Brent was beloved for his wit and wisdom in always quick to offer uplifting thoughts to others. We will miss him dearly. May god bless you brad. Handling thirty saw. This is john swerved. And you're listening to discover laughing at a podcast dedicated to the people in rich culture of lafayette the gateway to south louisiana. I'd like to thank our sponsors. Who make our podcast possible. We take our podcast with the ongoing support of raider and jason. Sikora are sound engineer. Reiter is a hands on. It service provider that integrates. All of your needs for advanced technical support. Effective communication options and cybersecurity. writers motto. Is you just wanted to work. 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Nur lafayette general means more resources to help solve healthcare's toughest problems reinvesting in our communities and being further committed to health and wellness ochsner ner laughing at general together means more learn more today together means more dot org brent henley founder of the pyramid group joins us today brent works with clients to increase performance in sales customer service supervision and leadership his also well known for conducting executive retreats for strategic planning and organizational growth. Many listeners know brent hanley for his leadership and running a simulated society known as some sock for leadership lafayette and other chambers of commerce and organizations. I think we'll find out. Participants are forever changed as experience. Real life societal challenges. They've never encountered a graduate of centenary college who also earned a master's in industrial and organizational psychology brent authored the nexus initiative which discuss why networking is broken. And why giving is more powerful than taking brent. I want to welcome you to discover lafayette. And i'm really interested in learning how you help improve human performance. So thank you for joining us today. Well thank you for having me james. Good to sit down and get to visit with you. Know when i think of you. It's it's always your name is synonymous with simpson's that there's so much more to what you do. So this is an opportunity to share with people. Your background in psychology. And what led you to this. And maybe how your training's help you help others with the cove it all that transitions. We've had to go through so you want to jump in with your early training. So i went to centenary actually becoming united methodist minister and so a while. I was there though. I discovered through an internship at broadmoor united methodist church that Fulltime popa ministry was really not my calling and so i switched degrees ended up getting an undergraduate and sociology and a great in a undergraduate and business. You're at centenary. Can you would be a minister. I was i was purely planned to come out. A united methodist minister. Yeah and so. I'm glad you found out early though in your career and can i had a lot of good mentors there because when i first shared with the school of church careers executive director that i didn't think this was my calling. He said then. Go figure out why you're calling is and let's make that happen. He would force me to be a minister. He said there are enough. There are enough miserable ministers out there already so we don't want another one. Yeah so so not getting degree in sociology and a degree in business the double degree and While i was doing that i was waiting tables that a really good steakhouse in shreveport called mississippi river company and this is when louisiana downs. I got started. A downtown square was hopping. This was the best day had the best prime rib in town. I was their head waiter. And in. So i hired a hired all the way i all the serving staff. I train the serving staff. I was doing this as a senior in college. It was owned by dobbs house of a big restaurant corporation. They were hoping that i would become a management trainee in in an open and do a restaurant. I did not want to do restaurants the rest of my life hours. And but i learned a lot about people waiting tables. I think everybody ought to go. Wait tables and be a bartender. You're gonna learn a lot about people and had a particular client who asked for me every saturday night. He does wife and and they would make a reservation just for me and he talked to me about coming to work for his company. He partner would buy underperforming businesses and then they would make them profitable and then sometimes keep them and sometimes harvest them. Resell them a bit. He had a variety of different businesses printing company. Bowling alleys talk one those schools or whatever he thought he could get value out and he was looking for somebody to run his. Hr department because he had one hundred ten employees but not not a formal hr department. I applied for the job. And i got the job and i had no idea you know what an hr person who aren't i. I was hiring. Waiters wouldn't hire other people. So join the local sherm chapter in shreveport and and and they were human resource manager and they all of those folks Were very gracious and giving their time to teach me you know. Here's what employ jackets look like. And here's what you can ask what you can ask. And i took sherm tasks and all those kind of things and and so in my first two months of working there i found out that the company was paying three people who are no longer employed that the because the processes that the company had just didn't let accounting and payroll know that people were no longer employed so payroll was just still paying people so i put all those so when i stopped that and got restitution for the money. I became a hero. I made up my annual salary in three days and but got got an hr department on the ground. Did that for about a year. And then john came into my office one day and said we're growing at a big pace needs somebody to help us really grow with the company. We wanna make president president president of the company. You twenty four years old. Kelly's in here with this my daughter that would be an opportunity. I said so what what is it you really want me to do. I have an idea of what president does so we well we. He and his partners and i sat down for about a week and kind of worked out what that really was. What it really was was. I was going to be director of operations. I was going to operationally run the company while they went out and found new greenfield though their bodies showing up for work and so because we had all these friday of businesses although we had leaders in those businesses my job is to make sure those leaders were on point and that we were meeting our performance goals whatever company it was so we grew the company from fourteen million a year forty million a year and eight years we had a proprietary school division. We sold university of phoenix their first campus tall by then thirty two so so supposed to get so here i am. I'm it's eight years later. Thirty two years old of got a couple of kids. And i'm supposed to get a bonus. It's christmas even and the two partners come into my office thirty minutes before our annual christmas party. And tell me they're not going to give me the bonus that they've found another business to buy. They're gonna spend that money on that business. And that and i said well that's just not fair. You know of of work for this is what i've been going for. And and they say well you know it's just life and we know you're not going to leave. You've got two kids. You've got a company car. You're not going anywhere. So i stood up and handed mckee's to the business and i went home and i told my wife i just quit my job christmas eve christmas eve and like pigs kind of story here. Yeah so what are you going to do. I think it must start consulting. Business you know have hired consultants in my eight years here. I can see what they did so the day. After christmas was a monday i started call it. I started dialing for dollars. I call it. I started dialing and call by consultants. And said i'm going to start a consulting business. We helped me and the answer was unequivocal. yes one of my friends in alabama. Told me to call. Larry wilson in minnesota larry. Wilson was president of a company. Called wilson learning. Which is world's largest training and development company. I call. Larry told him about my background. He said why. Don't you fly to minnesota. And let's have a conversation he said i've got nobody representing us and in in texas louisiana mississippi. Arkansas got everywhere else. Don't have that a to minnesota. Larry met for two days and then he he gave me. What's called an agency. It's like a franchise of wilson for no upfront costs at all. Just go do it. And you're still affiliate and we're still thirty years later. We're still affiliated wilson. Mario yeah so what. There is no plan in your life. all us really unfolded. Yeah just unfolded seeking just taking advantage. Whatever opportunities are out there to really do that kind of stuff so you you learn quickly doubt it. Sounds like you went from being trusting and loyal employees to realizing that you know sometimes management isn't doing the right thing i'm not saying. They were bad people but they did not give you a fair shake right now and it's and that's what's leading. Yeah hey they were generous. They paid for my masters degree. They paid for my tuition louisiana tech. Get a masters nile psychology. They let me be on the board of the shreveport chamber of commerce. They let me do some stuff on weekends. They gave me a country club membership generous in those ways but what they what. They failed to recognize his keeping promises. And when you don't keep promises with your employees than you're setting yourself up for for just horrible failure. Because they will. If i had stayed with the company i might have taken sabotage kinds of efforts to make sure that they weren't successful. I would not put the energy into a new project to make sure of successfully. I might have thought about stealing from them. Because they didn't give you my bonus and this is what happened when i see newspaper reports of somebody embezzling money or stealing. I don't necessarily think that they were bad. Probably something happened. That triggered that to yeah to make to make them say not every case there are some cases where people just dumb and they just steal but there are some cases where people do that but hey our audience knows businesses maybe their own businesses where people have purposely sabotaged something in that company torn a piece of equipment not paid attention to a customer issue. They've done and that's happened for a reason and the reasons because they might not have kept promises with folks. So i wanted to make sure that the clients that we worked with were not only growing clients but their leaders were believers that people are what make their organization that when you invest in people. You're gonna get better things that you can keep your promises that they have a set of well-documented and practiced values so people. Don't just hire you. You kind of interviewed them to make sure it's a good set. Yeah before you get involved. A couple of years ago a it company ceo called me and he said hey. I i hear you fix people so our really fixed. Yeah but i fixed people but what he got. He says i got low. Morale went and talked to him and he spent the next forty five minutes telling me what was wrong. With employees eh. What was wrong with employees be at cetera and so after he got through telling me all eight employees everybody had. Everybody had a problem. Terrible problems i said. So who hired these people and he goes well. I did and i said so. The problem is not damage. You we need to work on you when he says well. I'm not ready to be worked on. So when you're ready to be worked on let me know but now we're not gonna i'm not gonna force you to get worked on so nothing with chains insane exactly so we look for people who are looking for change. Who are looking to get better. Who really sincerely want to do it. A mess people's desperate by the time they come to you or some of them very proactive realizing that things could be better. You know very few people come to me when they had that i sneeze and just like all of us you know we're we're there's pain and the more pain That's fine it. Come to me with all the pain you got. It probably means you're going to be willing to do stuff to make things alley. So i want to go before we. This is so interesting. I want to drill into it. Where you from north louisiana. So i grew up in oklahoma. So how did you end up at centenary. And then in that part of the state like what led you so most of everybody in my family to oklahoma colleges and so norman where they go on a dorm oklahoma oklahoma stay. The two big colleges mother was secretary of state in oklahoma. Yeah coma others chief of surgery of big hospital secretary. She was secretary of state under david. Walters that was back in the late. Eighties early nineties off. Assure very politically stupid woman. Wow worked for the dnc. When bill clinton was president of work for got mayors elected company. That that guy elected do stuff. So i have lots of stories about all that anyway since i wanted to be a minister. Oklahoma university of oklahoma oklahoma state university are not known for putting out ministers so and sitting there and had a program and so the ban. They offered me full ride tuition room and board so and i had gone to a high school putnam city high school three grades that had three thousand students. There were thousands of people in my graduate there. Eight hundred nine people at centenary total. Yeah what a culture side by biggest classes scenarios freshman english twenty five people. My smallest was associated. Class was just me and the professor and that happened twice. And you're lucky yeah. I mean they weren't going to cancel the class the class to graduate so he and i would meet across the street as johnson strawberry pie there. No missing class. there was no paper by like louisiana. Gas fell in love with louisiana fell in love with the people of louisiana. It just seemed like it was easy to to do things and So when you met with wilson did he want you to be in lafayette or staying. Where because he said look we're gonna put you in a car and you're gonna traveler your clients so doesn't live where you wanna live and then was not long after that that i met a half french. Half spanish redhead from new iberia. So that's what brought me to lafayette. She can't get north of ted. So i've got her as close tie tennis. She's gonna get stay here and love. Lafayette so i've lived in other in shreveport i've lived in monroe i've lived in new orleans but love lafayette and continue to love yet. So you moved here. I'm just trying to think how transition us. There's so many things that you do. And i i had no idea. What an industrial psychologist was kelly madonna. And i were talking about it. And i said brenta best one to explain it but you really don't know that you fix people but you work with people to improve performance cement all age group so it's not clinical psychology. So you know sit here and analyze me like maybe do no. I'm not no. I don't analyze you. I'm not. I'm not trained to ask you about your childhood. Or what's impacting you. And you know daily basis. What what we look to do. What are the behaviors that are going on with your employees that lead to financial results or performance results. So we look at things like sales this that there's a science around sayles who your people saying do are they looking at the right kind of customers customers that you want to have. Are they avoiding the customers. You don't want to have are they are they. Do they have the right communication skills to they have the right thinking skills. So there's a lot of learning and development lot of training that goes on on that but there's also a lot of one on one coaching and there's some organizational aspects to it like how many people is the right number of people to supervise on a team. How many what kind of things should we have. Our strategy that's about Our employee culture and culture engagement so the really big topic right now with most of our clients Even during the pandemic and prior to the pandemic is getting people engaged. It's the it's the first time that we've had four generations of In our workforce so we got everything. Baby boomers gen xers gen wires and whatever the next one is you've got and they have different ways that they approach work. The boomers don't care if they work seventy hours a week but the younger generations are are looking to work about thirty. Maybe thirty one hours a week. And that's about it and get paid for forty the what's wrong with that. Yeah what's wrong with in the inet funny though how you know few years difference in a totally different outlook online. Exactly the george. Floyd incident has raised the whole diversity and inclusion. We've we've seen our client base a tenfold increase on appointing somebody to be the head of diversity inclusion for our company. Somebody wakes up every day thinking nothing but diversity inclusion and how to do that which leads to we're starting to use sim sock in some of those experiences to companies. I don't think there's a better time in history to be thinking about sim. Sock would were bad. And everything's going on and so we have a number of companies. Because of their diversity inclusion efforts are including sim sock as a way to get all their employees to be thinking differently about different economic groups. My husband represents walmart and he has for decades. You know he's a lawyer and they have been Focused on out for a long time. He's had to go for years. They go meet at least once a year. But then there's webinars different things and it was so far back. It's before people were really talking about that but they understood. You know that when you have different voices at the table. The company does so much better than they got and john learned but it was kind of a culture shock for him and i hate to say that because he was open to it but he just didn't ever thought about do my actions impact others in ways that i don't even see you know it's not intentional. But it's all of us do that. So i guess you go in you can analyze the dynamics probably pretty easily from the outside. I'm watching how people interact if you listen to. Employees will tell you that they'll tell you and and that's one of the things that we do not of course listened to the executives. We want to find out what we want. But we want to take the pulse of employees. They're they're doing the work here. So what is it they need. We've a casino client on the east coast. And when they started their diversity and inclusion work. I'd been a client for a number of years. They reached out to me instead of all the people you've met in our company. Would you choose to be head of our diversity inclusion. I recommend it somebody. They weren't even thinking about that. They were thinking about a white guy. And i said no you need you need to think about this african american black male. Who's worked in your food and beverage department and knows everybody. And and he's smart he's credible and these credible and no don't put a white guy in that thank all you guys in the cease weaker corporate wide already. So no you're not gonna have any credibility with this kind of thing so they did and it's so far it's been a very successful. Yeah i mean. They're they're making some real strides. What they found out what their employees wanted time off not to have time off to go home time off to do community projects like help load the food. Bank like put together bicycles for kids. Who don't have buses and so they put together all these programs on your day off. Come help us load of food truck. Come help us put together bicycles. Load up the santa sacks and employs are just digging it and bills commodity outside of work. Yeah they they would have never thought about that unless ed had said. Let me let me ask you what you want where you wanna go with this. Is that hard you talking about. A baby boomers thinking seventy hours. A week is acceptable and millennials and others wanting less. That's a lot of working out. You know expectations right. That's probably paid time where they're going to pay. I mean usually the employers are paying down even going to community work in in some cases yes but in a lot of cases the employees are taking their own. Pto take their own talk show and then take their kids along with them down. Do bad right. They just see that as a part of what they're supposed to do for their community right. It's pretty amazing. How did you learn all this. Was this part of your business background or did the group you're affiliated with teach you. How did you figure out these best practices so combination of things one is when you a company for eight years you learn a lot about people and the reasons they do things and so louisiana tech has a really good graduate program in this and so learning from them was helpful. The the other thing is wilson learning really believes in investing with their people. So wilson learning has one hundred and eighty workshops and seven. Are i probably taken one hundred fifty of them and so and then i'm certified to teach about ninety of them. I got a chance to go to disney university early in my career with wilson learning and do some train the trainer so learn from a lot of those folks read all the time so belong to a club called the next big idea club and it's a group of of authors adam grant lindsay oni folks. Who write about business stuff. Who pick out two books. Every quarter send it to their their members and his pr- probably books would have never picked up in reading and doing things but they're fascinating books about stuff the the one. I just got through reading about high conflict not just rinker conflict that all human beings have that we know how to navigate through but polarizing conflict of like the kind were experiencing our company our country right now and and had to deal with that and the and the ways to do it and there's not a lot of new ideas. Some others ideas were taken from. Bill yuri with the harvard negotiation project negotiating to. Yes getting past. No all his books but some of them were brand new ideas about how not to demonize your opponent and how not to think of them really as an opponent because people do things for a reason but so just keeping up on those and i've learned a lot from our clients. Our clients have taught me a ton of stuff of what they're doing and and so but it's it's never ending always surprised that things that companies will try and do and if they don't work that spineless figure out a way to make them work and if they do work let's keep going. I guess the core principles that you learned way back or still solid. Yeah so times change. I mean maybe circumstances change like cova but people are people. People are people. I'm reminding our clients right now especially the ones that are dealing with trying to find as many employees that can't first of all cove and forced back in april and natal laham furlough people and now they got higher back and and this is the best time to go and look at your corporate values the things that you act you believe in and act on every day make sure those are solid and higher to those values don't deviate from those values because if you do it'll be a miserable horrible experience. Stop hiring people because they can fog a mirror up. Make sure that you validate those values. And you're interviewing toward those values because that'll make your life a lot easier in the future. You won't have to fire we. We don't call it fire. We call it liberate. You won't have to liberate yourself from non-performance you'll have actually be more profitable in the in the back end and you guide them in figuring out their core values so a matter of fact we a- dern kovic me and another guy bob mackenzie nia actually wrote a virtual course on how to do that we call it higher for workplace and retain for workplace and and You can you can purchase the seven module course and learn how to do it yourself. 'cause a lotta companies can't afford consultant to come in right and so and we wanna help them and so if they if they take that course they'll learn how to identify those values valid question and validate those values and even think they should be thinking now to transformation process. Because a lot of people say. Okay i need four servers. Where am i going to get servers. Okay i'm gonna stick sign outside okay. And so now now who who's walking around to see how well people don't have cars because they're walking around okay so they come in and i apply for the job and they wonder why i can't find anybody. So where are all these people. And i know a lot of them are blaming. The unemployment office or or stimulus stimulus package. But here's what's really interesting this week. I've talked to five people that are thinking about quitting their job and going off on their own. I'm not surprised they've been working at these places for a while. They're just tired. they're overwhelmed. They been one of them. Said you know our company has given bonuses to new hires. What part of bonus to mate. I'm the one who didn't quit on them. Happened a thousand dollars bonus to me and so she said that got me thinking. I think i'll just go start my own business. It'd be better off. Yeah not have to put up with this and you know she may or may not be but finding out is part of the journey absolutely kellyanne. I just drove across the country. And we we were in albuquerque and kelly. My daughter's he's just like a thelma and louise. we didn't go off. The cliff get cracked windshield. But anyway we were eating in albuquerque and we had the best meal downtown and the waitress. That was there okay. They had pies in the front that were hung bay and she served the food. She claimed the table. She checked us out and is really her. And then the chef in the back and so it was two o'clock and she was telling me the pies were goods. Whose thank you. I made them. She made the pies and then a civil you about to get off his well. I was going to get off that. We're gonna be here tonight. And nobody showed up for the next shift. She's worked there. She's safe thirty something years. I mean she looked great. I don't know how she kept that attitude but she was keeping the show going and i thought she probably could have opened up her own little place but she's an employee she's she's loyal but i thought in today's market. Thanks for just sell- upside down. So if i was the owner of that place. I would be saying okay. What what are the four things that she's got. Because i need to go duplicate that for everybody else because if i had ten on earth what kind of on half dynamic. Yeah even five bucks. So they can't hire people maybe he's not asking the right question probably not asking. The questions are and not thinking in that way thinking about any restaurant experience. You don't conserve. She did say she never got a bonus like people. The governor was looking giving bonuses to people to do this. And i said you didn't get any bonus did you. And she's like now scrupulous he's still making the same money and just to upset she may and she's just one person right but it really shine the light from me like what's going on out there especially in the service industry minutes really tough and she has to work. He's still raising a family. And you know i'm sure she's got people underfoot. She seemed like she'd be that type. It so i think especially for the service industry right. Now it's tough and here's my fear is that they're just gonna go higher bunch of people and customer services get it can fog up put. Just gonna suck. It's you and so. I'm telling everybody my my youngest daughter is a server bonefish grill. He loves it. She's got all the dna of of working in that industry. She used to be a trainer. For chili's i mean she's been the service industry. She's terrific server the but she's got people around her. You know both fish has a really good job getting good people because they realized that one thing there are certain things that they cannot teach them they can teach them in. You teach him food service. But it's like at disney. When i was there we figured out. We can't teach friendly so we changed our our whole interviewing process instead of interviewing somebody. We made them go through a thirty second audition of show friendly. And if you can't show friendly you don't get the interview so you had to show friendly now you'd pass you'd get the interbank. Yeah because you're laugh but we had people up. There's been friendly friendly screen door. He yeah because it's the friendliest place on earth. So why we need to be interviewing it. Is you know what like a princess is grumpy. never see cinderella smoking a cigarette now. No young and so we don't for looking for friendly. it's the same thing and all of our small businesses. What are you looking for and not just experience but the the the une tangible things are they friendly can can. They conduct a car. Say say soft we call it soft skills hard skills And so you can you. Can you anticipate a customers needs are are. Are you more focused on your device. Rather than if they need more tea or water and so. It's those kinds of things so important that makes the world go round the world whether it's disney or a law firm or the pair make great or trucking company. Yeah yeah. We have one of our trucking sciences. We actually teach the drivers customer service skills so when they you know. Take the paperwork into the second. Who's who's the person you want to be. Nicest to in any company at the secretary that works with the head right because the ceo says well. Who's mean to you today and who is nice. She's the gatekeeper right. And so we've taught our truck in our our truckers drivers Be nice to the secretary. Take the paperwork and make sure clean. Don't you know take that. Get that oil off your hands. A smile add up. Say thank you for doing business. And so they love that trucking company because the secretary loves working with those drive right and she can tell you she can tell you which trucking company not to work with so all matters. We have some more. I want to get into. But i like to pause brown as we look back on an interview with dustin argo and rodney has about innovates out. You're familiar with that. They help entrepreneurs startup founders and small business owners come together to learn and share innovative best practices. You can hear this interview and many others on. Discover lafayette dot net. Let's take a listen and we have a great open door policy that you don't see in a lot of other communities where we bring in these companies and ceos of high level companies or l g h acadian companies are willing to open their doors and sit down meet with them and we're getting the medical device or the product that they're offering in those people's hands and they're giving them direct feedback on that which is very difficult to get You know from almost any other commuting and that's not coming from me. This is coming from medical companies that we've brought in who have said you have a fantastic open door policy. And so that's one of the things that if we can get them here then we can show them all these things and it makes it much more likely that we can recruit them and had them start. You're welcome back to discover lafayette. We're here with brent handling so let's talk about some sock if we can and i think it applies to so many things that you do i was thinking it was just something that was done with our local chamber of commerce but another principles. Probably ride everything you do. But this is a simulated society so sim- sock was actually created for the classroom. The guy who wrote it gibson was a professor of sociology at the university of michigan. And he'd gotten a phd game theory so he was interested in in playing games with the students but university of michigan hired to teach sociology. One on one so he turned it around and he created a simulation where the students played. societal concepts. He was able to ride it into a face to face interactive game. It's in its fifth edition. Twenty two languages. I mean it's it's kind of everywhere. It's mostly taught get universities and their sociology departments. We we really started. I went through when i went through leadership shreveport bosia when i was working for that. Vc firm i got to be certified facilitator when my professor at centenary who is running. Some sock decided. He didn't want to do it anymore. He wanted to write a book and he called me up and said cannot teach you to do it. You're the only one i think could do this. I say great. So he was only he was doing leaderships report and i think leadership vicksburg and so i thought well i'm going to start consulting company. A modest well broadly distribute. This started calling all the different chambers across the south picked up a bunch of a bunch of clients leadership. Lafayette being one of them are rob gadgetry. Who is the chamber of time. You know rob. He was using a different guy in florida. Found out i could do it. Close right here so switched off and we just grew it And it's been it's been terrific. I think the you've been through it. You've been through it. The the learnings you get from that. I think the perspective that people walk out of there with completely different and two and a half day. Retreats we used to go to roberts cove. I don't know what they're doing now. Leadership lafayette goes to hammond or physical traits center near robert louisiana and a lot of a lot of our chambers. Do it overnight. Retreat is their opening because you have to be a way to get to know each other and also just not be distracted with local concerns posted on facebook last night That sim sock is poor. Probably more relevant today than it's ever been because of all the stuff that's going on in the world. Can you explain to people. What sim sock. As kind of been a big picture overview yeah so the purpose of sock is to create a successful community. And what we do is we place people. In different roles. Some are political. Some are business roles summer communication roles and and they're also placed to different economic groups. Remember the people that really were higher. Socio economic they put in the so networks hot with no air conditioning. do do do some role reversal. So if you're an attorney you're probably going to get put in four grew i was i was like a media of is kind of your head of media something like i was kind of the one that koumba ya so you might have been headed media so obviously saw communications gilson. My friends is being so mad. They were angry because they didn't have any any poll. We didn't have any air conditioning. Poor you know poor. People don't have air conditioning. So the sitton laugh. But it's true and then you know. I put people who are heads of nonprofits. They get to be rich and railroad associates real role reversal. And and we want him to because if you put them in their own comfort zones it's not going to work so you want to stretch out and they get to experiment and try new things and and there's a currency and they have to see if they could make this economy work and it is as much as an economic simulation as it is social simulation. But those two are intertwined you. You can't have an economy without people and so in order to make this economy work. How are you going to get people to collaborate. And so one of the lessons. I think that comes out of sim sock is that we're only as strong as our weakest link and if we have high unemployment that's going to have an impact on us if we have people who were sick all the time that's going to have a negative impact on us so we need people to have opportunities and be able to move up and into earn money and that's one of the big lesson that comes out of that so with leadership laughing at in particular here. It's almost a year long program where you learn about different parts of the society leading the jail system and you know politics and all the business everything you were talking about. So i guess this kind of breaks down some of our preconceived notions when you go through sock. I right and you do have to learn. Everybody's name to that was hard. Yeah yeah but when you when you come out of that retreat you know everybody's names and you know things about people that you didn't know before you're you've bonded as a group and now you're ready to go through the monthly experiences as as a different person yeah. I enjoyed leadership Kelly here did the junior ship program and shape is a junior in high school and it's life changing and the friends i made and i know kelly made there. I think they're gonna be lifelong friends. Tell my wife tammy us because we've talked about you know if we lived here we lived there. You know i said. I do not wanna live in a community then have a strong community leadership program because those are the most informed people i mean you think about. We've got a couple of city council people who could some school board members. These are all graduates of leadership. We'd boards and commissions people who are on nonprofit boards p people who just do good things and not they're not at a elected official position or or aboard position but they're they're good they make better neighbors and they make it makes for a better community is pretty common around the country to have leadership programs most most communities of any size a have a good community. Good community leadership programs We also do some sock at the university level. I'm on the faculty. At the university of georgia's carl vinson institute of government and georgia has an interesting january being interested in. So if you're a county commissioner at or a city council person you you are required by law to go through a two day orientation at the university of georgia a called newly elected and if you failed to do it if he failed to do that i think you have eighteen months or two years to get that certification be failed to do that. Your recalled from office and a new election is held. That two days spent like that. Yeah to today's spit how to read a budget. What you can and cannot do how to keep yourself on jail All of those kinds of things and so when they walk out of there they've gotten on boarding for elected official dry. How the cape's amount of travel they're like you're saying you may not know what's ethical and unethical exactly because a lot of them get elected to pave a road. Yeah and then. They realized that can't pay the roka's private so now what. I'm going to georgia to be quite like us. But this doesn't sound like louisiana this part. I think we should have this kind of thing that i've talked to ella mae. I've talked to other up. Talk to bobby jindal. I've talked to other people there's leadership is to to. Lsu could could do this but they're not wired to do anyway. University of north carolina. Has this program. Georgia has program. Washington has this program. Florida has his proclivity elected. Newly-elected if you go in georgia newly-elected you've complete that didn't they have an advanced leadership program and if you finish the advance leadership program the state of georgia will pay an extra hundred bucks a month for the so financial incentive to go to the advance the advances a week long course on leadership and we do. Some sock is one of those days. Yeah because those. Those elected officials need to know not only the districts that they represent the tire counting or the tire city that they represent and those people come out changed when they go through some has them they make it a microcosm of that particular of that event. Eight or whatever. Yeah so if you come from a poor county. I'm gonna put you in the rich group and if you come from a rich county i'm gonna put you in the poorer does. Yeah if you've never run a business before you're getting ready to run a business sock if you hate the media and i can tell if you hate the media when i get there i'm gonna put you the head of media because you're going to be and this role. Bursts will creates a whole new perspective people so And we've done this at not only at georgia we've done it at in north carolina. Unc north carolina. We've done it in florida we've done in washington but these government programs specially elected official programs are ripe this kind of change. You really enjoyed this stantione. I love him sockets. Great yeah yeah. So with the covert issues hitting all of this. We briefly touched on it. What types of advice do you give employers. We were talking before we started taping about a lot of times the problems were pre existing and cova just made it seem worse but if the underlying managements and the the people at the top aren't running a good shop it's not necessarily covert related. It's just the way that they manage things. Covert is exposed those kinds of things and so. I didn't say that quite right. But i mean those problems didn't just come about because people had to stay at home exactly and some employers. Just weren't ready for the whole lockdown thing and and and we heard examples of employers. Say you cannot stay at home. You have to come into the office. And then people were in cubicles and so then. We saw employees self-regulate themselves and they liberated themselves from those companies. They just quit and then employers. Don't people need jobs will are going to put their safety at rest and they in some of them just prepared for that but for a lot of our clients what we did right. After the lockdown happen we call them all and said if look let let's get some zoom calls and let's talk about what's about to happen here because we've seen. We saw this before right after nine. Eleven on the eastern seaboard. And what we what we saw was that when people got knocked off their plateau. Their energy dispersed. There were no longer engaged. Committed all the sudden their energy went from either overwhelmed and and and starting to burn out to wait and see. And i'm not gonna do anything. I'm not going to volunteer for anything. I'm not gonna ask for anything. His they know the answers. And they're gonna come. Tell me what they want me to know. And that led to rust out. People just not honing their skills. And if you're overwhelmed and and you feel overwhelmed you're going to burn out. We were seen a lot of burnout right now. After last eighteen months These five people who talked to me this week about changing their job. They're burned out there. They were just overwhelmed. And so we talk a lot to our clients about. How do you get that energy back and one of the things that you have to do. Is you have to first of all understand. What your own self talk is because we all talked to ourselves right. So what are the messages. I'm telling myself and then we have to teach number of people in the organization how to help others when they see people that need help and you know if for example saw that you weren't your same chance swift self. I need to take the initiative and go jan when he telling yourself what's going on here and talk it out and if you talk it out you're gonna be able to help people release some of that steam or that frustration or that or the all of the things that they're going through a lot of employers just wouldn't let people talk it out and so they had to do was to deal with this internally and that's not the right way to do it we would hold We would hold them. I just employees round circles. Virtually and just answer. Ask one question. Tell me what you're thinking by zam. Just people on that can yeah. They were candidate. Tell me what you're thinking. Am i going to have a job. Am i going to have the same job i had before. They're asking me to do the job of two to three people. What do i do The short i believe the government. Should i believe my own company In my still going to get that raise they promised. I mean they had more questions than there were answers and so we would collect those intense and take them back to management and say let's figure out the response to some of these. If the response is i don't know that's the response. I don't know if the response is. I do know this. Then let's tell them let's be as transparent possible and the clients that did that are much better off today than the clients that didn't do because their employees have a a great deal of trust for them. I'm assuming you deal with larger companies that invest in these type of things and probably the mom and pops though need to do this as much as others. Early depend on their employees. Yeah that's why we created virtual course where you don't have to afford a consultant. You can go do some and But yeah they everybody needs that but the end the thing is is that there's still lots of resources out there available for small to medium sized businesses about doing it. Part of the problem is when you're working seventy hours a week running a small medium business. You're tired when you get home. There's not sometimes you just don't wanna pick up a book or read an article. I just read a pop open a glass of wine or a beer or some dvd and But but if you can be disciplined by spending fifteen to twenty minutes at a time on learning something new about that day over over a month period you'll have it all done. You know everybody thinks. I have to take this course. I have to sit down for eight hours when no one's going to do that so no you don't do that. You just unbundle it and you know. I've been fifteen to twenty minutes each day doing it. Simple things that employers can ask themselves if they're listening to this and wondering well. Maybe i should be looking into getting some help from my company. My employees are. There's some kind of basic things that typically rise to the surface that need to be addressed get may make sure your hr department is not the only department. That's doing the recruiting in your company. I tell ceos that you're you're responsible for the recruiting of your company your hr department. You know the values. You know the vision of what you're trying to take. You need to be looking for people just as hard as the. Hr departments looking for people. Tell your hr department to go talk to your people get out of there. Get out of their sweet. Go to the lunch room and talk to people in and then come back to me and tell me what what people are saying. The also is is a lit- listen to what people really need today. We we have one client. That's sided starting on august. I they're gonna four day workweek and the employees get to pick schedule. You get to pick the days you want off you get three days off you get you know you can have saturdays there. Twenty four seven seven days a week company. But you get. You're going work ten hours so you know it's a ten hour shift and you're gonna work four days. We're going to have any overtime. We're going to work four days but you come in and and but it made the hr department be the people who are serving. The employees rather the employees serving the hr depri- right and now hr department has to figure out scheduling along with supervisors and others to do these kinds of things employee. Morale has shot up. Was that employee driven that four days. The ceo and listen to employees walked the floor and said okay. It's weird times. what do you want more time off. Yep okay let's figure this out. It's hard when you work monday through friday. You know i mean it. Sounds like i guess people were different days but it's hard to get to the doctor and get things done exactly when people say well. You want me to get vaccinated. I want him to get the doctor. What do my kids are sick. My husband and i have three days in a row. Go off so we can go up to arkansas and you chill. Wouldn't it be great if i could sleep tomorrow. You know things like this. This is what they heard. And so he didn't want to a and he saw were competitors. Were losing people because they weren't listening to their employees and he. I don't want to lose these employees of invested a lot in them. So yeah we're gonna we're gonna try this. I'm glad they employees trusted him enough to be honest and maybe that's the culture that he had sat. Yeah it's their culture transparency. Because i did another interview. I mentioned to you with tessa brown and michelle robert than they do this. You know similar to what you're doing. They work directly with and they said a lotta times he employees are asked to be honest but they. They don't really trust that it's safes base that has to be established. I you're not gonna get canned because you've have a criticism or to you know our suggestions. So the exactly. Yeah because if that's happened in the past. I can tell you that that's going on in the bill. That's being communicated in the break room. Oh yeah yeah so there. You know they'll hey look employee. Employees get two types of on boarding. They get the official on boarding from hr and then they get the unofficial on boarding from the from the employs in the break room They say that but this is what they really know. They told you that on boarding. Let me tell you how it really works around here. Okay yeah so the so. Who do you believe whether you believe. Your worker. Co workers exactly. I had experienced when i was in high school of working at a shopping cart. Factory this this factory that makes the shopping carts some interesting things. Yeah my my dad was chief of surgery hospital. I was hoping he gave me a job in the hospital. I be an orderly. So i could hang out with the nurses station stephan and never worked at now. I know a guy works shopping car factory so this is hot work. It's standing at cross an assembly line. Where all of the rods of the shopping cart come down in the the new. You pull this arc welder. Down it's on hinges cooling down when the green light comes on you can lift at all and and all the intersections are done and it goes another assembly area where they put a carton. Now he's still have all your fingers had gloves and all. The cast was hot sweaty. I'm there for the summer. It's a unionized environment. My my first three days. i'm killing it. i am killing it and the supervisors high five and you're making every we got more stuff. Bright future met in the parking lot even work into hard. Yeah i was too good these guys. Who'd been there for twenty years now pau tomorrow. You're going slow it down because you're making us look bad because you know in august you're going to be gone right and they're going to use the example. All of us should do this. How did you handle that. yes sir. that's exactly what i'll do. I'll slow down. God what am. I gonna do get killed five of them. Oh no you're right. I'm slowing down tomorrow. Going to be regarded after this. So you know people still make shopping carts or is it all automated. It's all robotic. That's funny that's life though gung ho and then you're affecting other people without even realized there so i have told one of our clients not long ago. They're bringing on a new person. And i said make sure that he does not get trained by joe because joe is toxic. And you'll end so how many people got to think about. I want to ask your audience. How many got trained by toxic joe man just because he. He's been there forty years. We think okay knows he can teach the skews he can teach you this. He can teach that call yes cynical and then and then all of a sudden you realize you've got boy another another cynical employees and then i want to ask earnings and other question. How many times have you liberated your company from a toxic employees and you ask yourself the question. Why did i do it sooner. it's hard. It is really hard brands. And if but if you if you know what you're non-negotiable behaviors are if you know what you're non-negotiable values are as soon as that happens. It makes it so much easier. Liberate yourself from that. You know what exact barker zaki moving to colorado that one the things he taught me through the opportunity machine was about football team like they've got positions that they play and once they find their place. That's where you want the best players to be. But you don't want like tom brady. Being the kicker are a linebacker trying to be the quarterback. It's like you've got to get the right people in the right positions and it's okay if not everybody can. Do you know the end eleven people. Yeah it's just wrong. It's just the wrong thought about that like you wouldn't criticize tom. Brady for not being good at kicking. Because that's not really what he's good at this point. It's pretty good at everything but they might be good. Kicker the Jim in jim collins book good degraded talks about the right people in the right seats on the bus and i know how difficult it is reporters right now. You're thinking man. I need somebody to work at night. Shift and i just don't have anybody because i'm working at as the as the owner and and how hard it is to to take your time at finding the right person who meets those attributes that you're looking for and how challenging that can be but in the long run it's it's gonna get better for you instead of letting somebody go then have to pay unemployment again so i bet that. Hr people have some great stories to share that. You know. there's some funny things that happened over the years when they're interviewing or once they hire someone and you realize oh bad decision right. Guess you're there to help counsel them. Yeah or a wake up. Call and liberate liberate. Liberate yourself from these people who are not going to help the sometimes the toughest ones are the family businesses where they feel obligated to hire the nephew or niece or something like that and you just know they're not gonna work out some of them do but some of them don't nature. Yeah h tend to sherm lunch and they'll you can hear some stories about stuff. Yeah is there anything you wanted to talk about that. We didn't get into. We didn't really talk. We just have a couple of minutes. But your buck nexus initiative. Hey wanna give kudos to the bruce our chamber. They decided to become what's called the next chamber. And so what that means is they use all of the The tents and tips and my book to help them grow the chamber in membership. So basically it's a. It's by local on steroids but it's not by local. It's by from chamber members so it's chamber members helping other chamber members grow their business giving them referrals Letting them use places in their place of business. I mean doing some really creative his so twice pre pandemic twice a year. We would hold a nexus forum or you bring the chamber members together and teach them how to exchange business cards in the proper way and ineffective networking way. Just not show up at a networking event. Go out with your buddies. And what kind of questions to ask. And then we also use the chamber ambassadors to be at the bruce chamber events and direct people to table some people. They don't know because we don't want people to tribal is at lunch and breakfast with people they know. We're gonna. I'm to introduce you to someone you may not know and at that lunch and you guys are gonna exchange business cards and what you're doing and so that way you get to know other chamber members can effectively talk about everybody in our communities want to be the person that knows that person who can get stuff done. That's a key in south louisiana. We'd love to be able to talk to people about no a guy. Hey defense. I know a guy. Yeah you need brakes. I know a guy. Yeah and we love. We love that. So that's what we're trying to do with the broussard. Chambers do that often and book still in print and he's still get at amazon dot com. It's only twenty only hundred pages long. I wrote it so that you could read it on a flight from lafayette to atlanta. Okay and 'cause books are too long rights at three hundred pages and they say the same dang three things and so the bottom line is it's better to give give getting back giving using human. Reciprocity the more i guess. Yeah you hear people saying. Be be a go-getter i'd say a giver. Okay be go give was like a good luck. Yeah it's it's it's an easy read so anything else you wanted to mention. No thank you so much for this opportunity to be able to. It's a it's a a love to share my craft. And do you do a great job. So excited about having gas on our show brent henley founder of the pyramid group here in lafayette. She work all over. It doesn't matter where you live because you're spreading your good cheer. Yeah i spent a lot of time in the last eighteen months with a nice shirt and appear shorts at zoom meetings so a lot of people have but it's hard to get these heels back on desktop it to do it. It's miss. i felt like i'm more. I'm sharper when i've made an effort. I don't know why it is physical thing matters for the mental from me put dutcher on the other day and i thought okay now i feel like i'm professional again. It's okay that's good seem has been tough. 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Oct. 8, 2019: How Schools Teach Impeachment; Drive-Thrus Slowing Down

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Oct. 8, 2019: How Schools Teach Impeachment; Drive-Thrus Slowing Down

"And this morning the trump administration blocked the US ambassador to the EU Gordon Sunland from testifying before Congress here's chairman Adam Schiff speaking to reporters from NPR and Wbz you are I'm Jeremy Hobson I'm robin young it's here and now and we've been following what's happening in the impeachment inquiry but today the stories about what didn't happen last week's closed-door testimony including from the former special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker in which those central intact surfaced as we mentioned now at the Time Fox sunless testimony and documents what they want to know is his exchanges involving this call between the we consider yet additional strong evidence of obstruction of the constitutional functions of Congress a CO equal president and president trump and the president of Ukraine and concerns that trump was pressuring the Ukrainian president to investigate analysis here and Claudia so the State Department is told Sunland he can't testify sunland lawyers say he's willing to so a subpoena their shift eight trump's political opponent Joe Biden in exchange for military aid so the intelligence panel says there are now seeking these subpoenas news anchor Chris Wallace said that volkers opening statement alone was devastating to president trump and Rudy Giuliani but here's Republican Mark Meadows speaking to reporters today a political appointee to the European Union his relationship with trump grew and his role grew and eventually he was a key figure in these talks Shinzo whether she will be allowed to testify before the panel will Adam Schiff spoke this morning and then House Republicans called on Democrats to release the full transcripts of considering an evidence in their investigation and proof of obstruction and we remind people that Gordon Sunland was in those tex-mex I said obstruction of the Democrats are saying cover up what's next so now we understand that the committee is issuing subpoenas for branch of government and now Democrats say they are issuing subpoenas to compel Sunland to appear and hand overall documents NPR congressional reporter Claudia Still Seeking Sunless Song Lund's testimony in addition to other witnesses and in the meantime when these documents or witnesses don't turn up there Ukraine right yes sunlen is an interesting figure he actually started out as not a trump fan he backed out of a fundraising event when trump was running for president aim for security assistance for political favor but Sunlen is technically the US ambassador to the EU Ukraine is in part of the Union so why is he even involved is there a a single journalist here that doesn't want to see the full transcript ambassador volkers testimony I agree I agree and the today the salmon was expected to testify until just a few moments before the State Department and other stepped into block that so there are some suggests last week that were released appearing to not want to talk on incriminating texts with another official who was worried that the president was looking to trade aid to you lent but that changed that didn't last long and he became a truck donor he donated a million dollars to trump's inauguration and soon after that he became Ukraine Marie Ivanovich whom trump recalled from her post he criticized her people remember in that call to the Ukrainian president so is there as with this blocking today that that will be blocked as well there are suspicions that she could be blocked as well looking at how everything turned out talks between Ukraine and president trump yeah well a we should know too that the house plans to hear testimony this week from former US ambassador let's see the transcripts but why do Republicans want that Publican about the minute we have well they say that there's additional testimony by Volker that shows can people agree with every one of you let them judge for themselves that's what we need this journalist in the room didn't necessarily with metals that they want where he said that president trump had been Klis crystal clear there was no quid pro quo of any kind when it came to these talks with Ukrainian president so they think there's more of that to blow a hole if you will and the Democrats narrative when it comes to this impeachment investigation we got a little snippet of that they point Tucson Lind's text messages that were revealed enough to remember the Clinton impeachment this impeachment inquiry isn't your first Rodeo but what about high school students who weren't born in the nineties how are they digesting in the in that transcript that could be released it shall be unfolded NPR congressional reporter Cloudy Agree Solace thank you so much thanks for having me well if you're old this news John Spicer joins us now he's a government teacher at Putnam City High School in Oklahoma City has been teaching his students about impeachment and the process welcome good to be here what kind of things do you do in the classroom to teach the students about the impeachment process I'll make them look up the word impeachment that's where it starts then I'll have him what about them well to be removed from office people don't understand that is it difficult to talk about politics with your students you know a lot of people find it is a lack of information in general not just from the students but from people in general that they just don't understand that impeachment indictment so there's a lot of misconceptions what kind of as conceptions well primarily that the impeachment is all you need the indictment from the House of Representatives but you need a conviction well they see it as polarized they see the conversations may not be happening and I'm near to provide just the information and allow them to a hopeful about the future of the country at times they may not appear to be they may appear to be what was the turnout from the House of Representatives on the indictment and what was the turn out on the conviction they're very good about it and it's great when you see thirty students that are really really really into the lesson for fifty minutes they want to know what's going on what are they asking what kind of questions did ask him well what is the impeachment process and there is make sense of this world because they are adults next year for all intents and purposes they are the adults that are going to well they are to be more mandated civics education at the high school level I think needs to start about seventh or eighth grade just exposure understanding the documents a little dismal on it and I understand why this around with pessimistic news some of them are like that but this is I have to reassure them constitutional live this without a check and balance power falls into one area and that's always always dangerous that's John's Spicer who's a government teacher at Putnam City High School in Oklahoma City he's been teaching his students about the impeachment process thank you for joining us and this is the process that has worked believe in allow this impeachment process to occur it's keeping our took keep it relevant and keep it contemporary okay so right now you're talking to an audience of all ages across the country what would you want people to on this season of cancel from the Baby boomers from the genetics. It's up to you and I have confidence you can do it let's talk about Oklahoma's civics curriculum for mm to think things through there are lots more than we give them credit for as a matter of fact they're brilliant in the curiosity and inquiry and what did they think of what's happening in Washington right now we have a citizenship test for people who come to this country but for the citizens of the here it could not pass that same exam you know what I find interesting is your teaching a pocket Constitution Meals Constitution Velzen in a textbook I make implying impeachment then I make them find out Wentz occurred for what charges ooh probably registered I've already had about one hundred twenty registered this year so yes I hope they want to do it they sound excited about it so I'm I'm excited that they're gonNA use their powers yeah no about impeachment from the civic side from the civic side allow the process to happen allow the evidence come forth if there is it's part of the turned a van into a tiny house with solar panels on top to take journey across North America we decided that instead of staying in New York's turn do you think they're going to vote in the election next year I hope so last two years Richardson hundred voters and I will there's a Lotta great educators out there that do this is your future you are in a small percentage of our population but you wanNA percent of our future and the things that we anxious cities of the northeast especially after looking at data that showed that while the stock market is skyrocketing in the economy's doing very well in the United States right now how that depression anxiety and loneliness rates are also incredibly high and we wanted to find out if there's anyone out there that's living better then we need to find out how held power tool in my hand and because of Youtube and instagram and a lot of communities that are sharing ideas about how to build things like this we p it together in one month now did have some help Christie's father is an electrical engineer and he helped us figure out the solar which I will say is the trickiest part but after a month we instead we were based on our our government works of very unique government I think we need to probably about a year and a half to two years on this and habitat translation from NPR. Yeah you're following people who break the rules in lying is part of the business like my opinion the best revenge against mm-hmm Abed that becomes a couch all powered through solar and a water containment system and we had no previous experience in building I'd never time because the way technology has improved it has connected people across the country that can share ideas about how to live a little bit differently in the United States I don't know I traveled all across the US and Canada also we were visiting communities around the country that we're trying to live intentionally people that are also living in tiny houses dictated where we went was largely the weather we had no heat or air conditioning in the back and so when it got hot we had to go up when it got warm we had to go down so we excuse law and then tell you if it was fair additional or not so we have this process to keep overzealous executives and other civil leaders in check minimalist people that build their own homes and living a lot more free lives you've found a lot of those people we did all across the country because you see right now is a fascinating a high school seniors who weren't even alive when President Clinton was impeached in the nineties. Yeah I find that his things but I grew up thinking there was only a handful of ways that you were supposed to live you're supposed to get a job and get mortgage in fill it with stuff and that was a fulfillment of the American by time or time with family or doing what you love and people all across the country I would say have cracked the code or experimenting with Redefining Dream we found that there are so many more definitions of what the American dream means it's not just measured by material success it can be dream or because they want to live this new American dream it can be a mixture of both we encountered many different types of communities on one hand you have people that are pushed out less stuff it gives us more time together and arguably more freedom in the future did you talk politics people this is so fascinating because Oh to do that and that is where the idea of the van came in and tell me what the van looked like inside and out on the outside it looks just like a carpenter or a plumber trying to live a little bit differently politics does become an issue and doesn't allow you to build in the way you will and I'll give you an example in Austin Texas there was a man other people to talk about what they wanted to politics did not come up much at all and by that I mean Washington DC based federal politics. I didn't hear the difficult I don't the facts are the facts I try not to Parse my political bias because we all have them I tried to give them the information I allow that what it means to live that American dream and not the one that was maybe set by previous generations because they don't have access to that old fashioned American wanted to do tiny houses for the homeless in the city and he had a lot of trouble getting through zoning and through locals who didn't want that in their community and he found that he had to go just outside city limits and build what he wanted there where the zoning rules were a lot different and that is where politics often doesn't necessarily I used to be a political reporter and I traveled around the country a lot and I was the one that always had to bring up politics as the political reporter and I found that on this trip if I allowed worked very well with alternate ways of living it can be a very sticky situation you traveled as you said all over the country to about forty states parts of Colorado but there are a lot less people there and there we encountered a group that has built the largest off grid subdivision in the nation great compound for victims of Hurricane Maria and we spent time with them experimenting with how could you build a hurricane resistant home that provides water and electricity for people learn different systems that we've built and after we encountered some time with them in northern New Mexico we actually traveled with them to Puerto Rico to build a self sustaining minimalism the tiny house people and they pursue that by giving up all their stuff you know 'cause we sold or gave away almost all of our things and we have found that by having those cases several months it sounds like you sort of discovered things that were important that you didn't realize before in your own what was your favorite place what was the place you would have stayed if you could you know we fell in love with northern New Mexico Santa Fe and North it's looks a lot like talk about and I go wow in Richard we talk about nine eleven or we talk about other things and and how the country has changed over time I think to myself I talked to them about a decade ago anything interesting is happening and I'm here to tell you that that is absolutely not true what is going on in Washington is incredibly important for the country don't get me wrong but there are like you've having this Rowson this happened a decade ago they were having the plane with Gi Joes or four title whatever was going on at that time but I have to be careful towards donald trump or Russia for about a year from people when I let them talk about their own passions but I did talk to people about local issues and a lot of times for people that are amazing things being done elsewhere and it's important I think especially for for journalists to spend time not just in rural areas but places outside of says is to be humane am I supposed to pinch yeah every other Wednesday subscribed our next guest is something that city we would build our own off grid tiny house inside of a cargo van and travel around the country to try to find stories about people beyond the gather I would say that for the most part the people that we encountered they're living according to their values and that has led them to make very different conclusions about how they life in New York City that's true in New York and when I lived in Washington before that when you live in these cities you start to think that they're the only things that matter and the only places where to far from the Supreme Court and Slept Street to Capitol Hill and because it looks like a cargo van no one noticed and I want to say we we've done this all across the country essentially living now I'm in Washington DC right now visiting family but we are still in the van travelling and hoping to encounter more communities along the way and where do you park it where do you see New York or Washington DC and see what we can learn from the rest of the country also living in in cities around the country where people experimenting with different ways to live different ways to live of all what was the thing about living in the van that was most difficult you can imagine a married couple moving into seventy two square feet mostly rent free stealthy looking car it doesn't look like anything other than a van from the outside and we've only had one police encounter the whole time what was that about checks and balances is one of the greatest things that our country created we separated a powerful McCain we put into three distinct areas so he couldn't create a law and so we adapted our lives to a much more simple life I'll tell you the first week was very difficult we were in New England and it was cold and raining and vote to increasing weather patterns and climate patterns how could we get them access to fresh food and water electricity shortly after a storm and not second state requires students to take a year long history course but only half a year of government it also requires an exam for history not for government you think there's you almost certainly have never done last year journalists Chris Moody was laid off from his job at CNN in New York so he and his wife moved out of their apartment sold most of their belongings and in a more comfortable setting and I think that's going to be better for us in the long run okay and then finally what has been the worst part about adjusting back into working fulltime the data show that women do more domestic work at home and often husband like me can hide and only do the work that the wife asks you to do I was probably a lazy we were sleeping in a beach town in Oregon where they filmed the goonies and a police officer came and knocked on the door real loudly and he told us to go to an RV parked in your mind it really makes I would argue relationship much better together now coming back to the real world where everyone has streaming and television or staying with family life in the big city you know when we were in the van we did not have access to video streaming or television or entertainment like that we spend has been but would you live in seventy two square feet with no other rooms to hide you're either doing work and helping with chores or your lounging and I learned very quickly that one couldn't lounge in someone else's working already in our self built little house and we hit the road and where did you go we traveled about thirty five thousand miles across a forty states what really there's a hard time and we had to learn to adjust I wanna say something about what it does to a husband and wife especially for a husband my experience look even if a man and woman are both right in front of you and so not just building together but in living in the van together we learned to work together in ways that we were never able to do it's a ramp roadmaster high-top one of those that you see driving down the street often making deliveries the post office uses these vans and on inside is a kitchen bathroom time together in the woods or reading books together or or listening to audio books was just about height as high tech as we got and we also didn't read the news and that frees up your time handles up there and not only allows you to turn on your lights turn on your water charges cell phone and have about one hot water boiler day for coffee and after that you're starting to run out of electricity should live in the United States and and I would say has made them happier than a lot of the rest of us that are running on the hamster wheel if you will are you still living in the van we're in the van there are building homes out of largely recycled materials and the homes essentially are self sustaining and they provide water heat electricity all through St he was very kind about it and after the interaction he looked up in the van said you'd build this yourself you did a nice job let me let me ask you two questions Chris Moody I out by the system whether it's for economic reasons or housing prices are skyrocketing and then you have other people who have set of values that they sincerely want to live by let's say opened its in northern Virginia at a friend's house where we can get free parking and in the city of Washington DC it can be a bit expensive however I will tell you that we did park it not a few hours ago about that and documents the White House hasn't produced the failure to produce this witness the failure to produce these documents together and learning not only to live together but living among systems that were not used to we had to figure out our water system in our electric city we only have two solar a tiny house the values of the van in normal life and I'm constantly combating not falling into my old ways I wanna keep what we learned in the van that is Chris I am so easily prone to falling right back into all of those old habits and that has been the hardest thing is trying to find out how to live with the values of this but in the case of a couple of restaurants in particular chick-fil-a they are so busy that it's inevitably going to take a long time so yeah we're seeing drive-thru slowdown in general but a lot of factors dot com slash NPR mind body your access to the largest consumer wellness network and marketplace it to some degree I think we started to see that this year you also looked at order accuracy in this study Howard drive throughs doing on getting orders right I think this one may be surprised me a little bit more writing a book about it and the book will be called maybe life opted out of thirty five thousand mile journey in search of a more meaningful American dream thank you so much for joining us that means it's taking them longer to make the food but as you point out it's not necessarily about poor performance at the drive throughs yeah that's right it's not because the employees are a new report finds that drive throughs in the US are slowing down. Maybe you've noticed joining us now is Sam Otis editor of QSR magazine which covered accurate at about ninety four percent accurate orders and that's really important because for as busy as chick-fil-a they are still top performers have a lotta catering happening takeout mobile ordering has allowed for a lot of different ways to access your your fast food so that's changing things and I think we're GonNa see that affect the drive through but these days we're seeing a little bit of a shake-up so you have this off premises business happening which is referencing things like third party delivery GRUB and door dash you'll see nice to massage and acupuncture spas and salons fine book and pay all in one place owners can join the network at mind body online as the quick service and Casual Restaurant Industry Sam K.. Jeremy how are you doing well so when we say that drive throughs are slowing down some people might think oh that's not good over last year but again it's a lot of factors it's busy drive throughs Americans love the drive through and most importantly it is fast food is getting better the food is getting comes from NPR sponsor mind body mind body connects millions to the widest variety of local fitness classes and the offer the same experience when it comes bad their jobs or or taking way too long longer than they should be it's really because you know the menus are taking longer to prepare customers are demanding high quality foods they get the orders right it just takes a really long time comparatively to give you your food yeah yeah in order accuracy I should say to you know about fifteen years ago when the speed within speed of service order accuracy fell by five percentage points over last year so it's about eighty four percent of orders were accurate I do want to point out. CHICK-FIL-A was the most service was really high order accuracy was actually kind of abysmal so order accuracy in general has gone up as the food as the restaurants have been more in seventy percent of their business go through the drive thru wow seven and how does that compare to the years past that's pretty much a whole pretty steady but I think if anything it's gone a little up the fastest is Duncan Duncan did about two hundred sixteen seconds on average to get you through the drive Thru Okay and the slowest and Chick-fil-a was the slowest and that's about three this kind of go into it and it's and it's not necessarily a bad thing that restaurant would take longer to to get you through the drive thru now you looked at ten fast food chains what was the fastest drive through so better higher quality takes longer to prepare when you say Americans loved the drive through what is the state of drive throughs in this country today in general most of the major fast food chains see about one hundred twenty seconds and then how did the others rank everybody is kind of you know somewhere in the middle our average was two hundred and fifty five seconds this was a twenty-second slowdown great to be here thank you and you can see photos of Chris Moody's Fan and will link you to his instagram account at here now attentive to getting the food out accurately but does take a little bit more time Sam one more thing does it makes sense for drive throughs to have one place where they give you the food and one place where you technology the way it is chick filet and some others are sending employees out into the parking lot with tablets to take the order intake payment there to make this more efficient here of Qsr magazine thank you thanks Jeremy Pay for the food or is it better to put it all in one place that depends you know I think if you have a busier drive-thru sometimes it does make sense to have multiple windows but I will tell you with with my friend said it's like Beethoven that Dan dan down and maybe it's it's here and now it could be the best opening of a rock song ever so that's definitely a part of the of the future drive through to as is again mobile ordering put him on roller skates and it'll be like right back to the sixties there you go it's Americana for you Sam okay the best rock band ever arguably the best drummer Ginger Baker assaulting his drum kit with guitar God Eric Clapton Legendary Bassist Jack Bruce on sunshine your love the band formed in nineteen sixty six blew apart like a meteor in sixty eight but inbetween they were cream and ginger baker was his own worst the opening

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High Schoolers Talk Trump And 2020; Fed Meets On Climate Change

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42:17 min | 2 years ago

High Schoolers Talk Trump And 2020; Fed Meets On Climate Change

"From NPR and WBZ. I'm Peter o'dowd. I'm Jeremy Hobson. It's here now house. Democrats continue the impeachment inquiry. Today they had ordered White House Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney to testify but he was a no show. As other trump administration officials have been the public hearings inquiry start next Wednesday and Republicans would would like Ukraine whistleblower to be among those testifying the whistle blower was the one who back in August filed a complaint that that information that president trump was using the power of his his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the twenty twenty presidential election. Many of the details in that complaint which was shared with Congress in September have been corroborated by other witnesses testifying under oath joining us now is representative. Rob Woodall Georgia. He's a Republican who sits on the house. Rules Committee Congressman. Thanks for joining us. Happy to do it. When your colleague a Republican Jim Jordan who's the ranking member on the House Oversight Committee says Republicans intend to subpoena the whistle blower to testify? You've previously said the administration should absolutely follow the whistle blower process. And you called on it to do exactly that. Are you concerned about protections for the whistle blower if he or she is subpoenaed well. I'm concerned about the long term impact whistle blower statute. So we do rely on whistle blowers we count on folks who see things that don't seem quite right to report that up the chain of command the chain of command and wants to suppress it that we I need an opportunity to find out about it. As both Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill we have an obligation to do oversight on the administration Craciun. It turns out it's early easy to do oversight on administration of a different party. It's doing oversight of the administration of Your own party that the challenges members on on both sides of the aisle and we all need to be better about that. But this is a different case than what I have seen historically and again I do serve on the on the rules committee where process this committee. Jim Jordan serving on a on a substance committee. They're on judiciary. But we don't usually see whistle blower complaints. That are you're a second and third hand information. And so I do think there's legitimate question in the name of protecting the whistle blower statute to be able to distinguish singlish between those whistle blowers. who were doing exactly what we have asked them to do? Their self interests aside and do something for the larger your common good and those whistle blowers who were trying to hide under the whistle blower name. But who may actually be pursuing a political partisan personal personal. Agendas are you putting are you putting this whistleblower in that second category. I'm I'm putting Jim Jordan concerns in that category this whistle blower or is incredibly important. There's no doubt about that but protecting missile blowers next year next decade I would argue from a process process perspective on the rules committee even more important because we won't have access to information if we don't get this right so are you saying then that it's important and in the interest of the long term Aspect of the whistleblower protection act whistleblowers going forward that the identity of this whistleblower be kept secret. No I'm saying that. The whistle blower protections the entire panoply of protections are not available for folks who are pursuing a personal snower political agenda. They are available for folks who are pursuing that higher common. Good that we discussed. It is incumbent As we talk about whistle blower protections to decide which category oak whistle blower falls into those committees of jurisdiction are burdened with that. I want to ask you about process as you said you sit. On the rules committee you oppose the resolution that laid out the rules for the impeachment inquiry moving forward as did all of your Republican colleagues eggs and many Republicans have argued that the proceedings are secretive and partisan But both Clinton and Nixon investigations had closed door phases. Do Do you believe that. No part of an investigation into president should be conducted behind closed doors. No I don't believe that that is the conclusion. Of course. There are times where you have to have a conversation behind closed doors. That's true when you're dealing with the simplest of a public policies sometimes conversations need need to happen without the the spotlight being on Vac. Not My concern my concern. Is those things that are unlike the Clinton investigation those things that are unlike the Nixon investigate and and that list is is very long. It's not lost on me that the process moved forward in a bipartisan way. We didn't see that kind of thoughtfulness villa into a h read sixty last week. We did not. Let's see any consultation between the majority and the minority. I I sit on the committee of jurisdiction there. I didn't even get wind. Of what the language would you would look like until twenty four hours before the preceding began. I certainly wasn't consulted in any way nor was the ranking member on the rules committee. Isn't that though what happens when you're in the minority generally you don't have the same Rights as the party. That's in the majority. Well you you make exactly the correct checkpoint in the house if you're in the majority you can jam through anything that you WANNA jam through. There's no need to oppressed minority rights. And what the rules committee did was reject the bipartisan processes of the Nixon inquiry rejected the bipartisan processes of the Clinton Inquiry and craft a brand new never before seen even more partisan of process losses finally congressman. I want to ask you and pointing out that. You are not seeking reelection this year. Is there anything that you have seen in all all the testimony that has come out so far about the president asking Ukraine to do him a favor and An investigate a political opponent. Is there anything that you've seen so far. That causes concern for you. Jeremy I I've seen things from from day one. That caused concerns for me. I'm an article. Oh one legislator my job is to be concerned about overreach at the executive branch level. The response to concerns in the executive branch is not an impeachment inquiry. At least it hasn't been historically Perhaps that's where we're headed. That impeachment inquiries will become the new norm orm elections are supposed to become the new norm and and twelve months from now. We're going to have exactly that although worth pointing out that the founders did set up this process so that you know in Congress could step in when needed. I am glad the House has this power. I think it's important as a check and balance but this power is useless useless useless to the nation if it is exercised as a tool of partisan election nullification. It has to be used news in a bipartisan way. For the first time ever the Democrats have said if we decide. We don't like the way the president's behaving we're going to shut him out of of the process altogether. That is Congressman Rob Woodall of Georgia Republican who sits on the house. Rules Committee Congressman. Thanks for joining us. Jeremy Thank you. You know to Africa where the continent is dealing with. Extreme weather conditions sub Saharan Africa is enduring its worst drought in decades. Forty five million. The people are at risk of starvation and to the north there's far too much rain in Somalia. Hundreds of thousands of people have been displaced by flooding the BBC's Bella. Her son joins us now. From Mogadishu Bella. Welcome and tell us more. How bad is it? Thank you for having me estimated. Three hundred thousand people including including approximately one hundred fifty thousand children in Iran region of Somalia have been forced to flee their homes in the town offended. Wayne of central Somalia situation could get worse as expertise have sent warning tropical storm. Caviar is expected expected to make landfall in Portland and Somaliland with his trunk wings. Wings and possible flash flooding minutes now just Somalia is that we see that hundreds of thousands thousands of people had to flee their homes in south Sudan and then thousands more in Kenya fleeing to higher ground what happened to the people who were displaced by these were they living now. Somebody government is supporting affected communities and the is urging the international community to release resources to support were displeased children and families. They're trying to take them to places which are seaver than their homes and and mobile clinics are urgently needed to manage the anticipated deceased outbreaks. As a result of the flooding it also appealed for humanitarian actors to address the current crisis in between and surrounding areas by increasing resources and services to affected communities. And we see that UNICEF said that people are in dire need of clean water food supplies. You mentioned the outbreak of disease. But what are the conditions edition. That people are living in now. The tuition that people are going through now is really very horrible. Situation the sanitary conditions agency in between is really very poor. That is no clean watcher. And in addition of that people don't have shelter and also there is a fear of disease outbreaks like malaria. In what's in the forecast. More rain to come. Yes the rainfall forecast for the coming week shows an increase in many parts of Somalia. According to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations as a result the current to high river levels and flash flooding are expected to continue in the coming week. Floods have killed at least twenty twenty five people and injured footy seven others as he wins. Continue in Somalia according to the World Health Against Asian but the the BBC's Bella Hassan speaking with us from Mogadishu in Somalia. Bella thanks so much We're going to spend some time now with people who will be among the youngest voters in next year's election three high school seniors from Putnam City High School in Oklahoma City. Seventeen year old and the faneuil black seventeen year old jamie king an eighteen year old Jessica Jones. Welcome to all of you thank you. It's great to be here. Yeah it's such a great opportunity Fisher so there's an election in less than a year from now. Are All of you planning to vote. I'll start with you nathaniel absolutely and Jamie. Yes Jessica Sokaia absolutely and do you know who you want to vote for at this point Jessica. I'm really thinking Pete. Buddha judge is probably the candidate of looked at the most And Jamie what about you I am still on the fence about who to vote for I am looking at Tulsi or Donald Trump. Okay and what about you nathaniel Right now the people have narrowed it down to. It's such a close call but right now I've been thinking of Julian Castro or Tolsey Bard. Well interestingly two of you said Tulsi Gabbard so what what is it. That appeals to you about her one of my biggest key points is caring earn for the environment and I think that she does a very good job at promoting this idea that we all need to pitch in and help and really just be mindful handful of our carbon footprint. And what about you Jamie. I watched a few clips from the democratic debate and she just really stood out to me as very civil intelligent while some may be yelling and screaming at her she will come back within intelligent fact and also some things about foreign policy how she handled all that. Will you also mentioned that you might vote for president trump. What do you like about President trump right now I like the he is really helping our economy. He is a businessman and he has Reconfigured many deals like the Canadian pipeline deal. He made sure we were getting a better deal out of that. And what about you Jessica. What what appeals to you about people to judge? Well actually. I'm really interested in his ideas about required military service. Yes I listened to him talk about how he thinks that that would impact the greater social issue rather than merely the symptoms of. What's going on right now as for like the divisiveness of our society and I think that's a really interesting progressive idea? Do you guys talk a lot about politics. These days with the impeachment. Definitely I'd say I mean. Government is a required class. So of course there's a lot of discussion that happens there. Honestly I think I can speak for all of us when I say that. It's not discussed nearly as much as it should be because all of us Not just as students but people today do we all just take politics at its surface level whether it's in the media or what we discuss and unless we take action and responsibility and actually look look into who were interested in what topics matter the most to us then really. Nothing's going to get done as effectively as it could be well outside out of your government class. What kind of media are each of you consuming? I'll start with you Jessica. Where do you get your news? Well I like to watch a lot of MSNBC. But I also I like to consider sources from both sides because I think it's a very interesting note to examine the bias as for for the impeachment. I've received news from MSNBC CNN in. I really like business insider but as well as things like I mean I've even examined and Fox News and the Washington Times And what about you Jamie. I get a lot of my information from C. N. N. and also Fox News and just the plane Internet just surfing through it. If I am really looking into something like the impeachment process right now I will consider many you many new sources. And what about you nathaniel. So when it comes to what I read and aware I read it usually my phone. It will just send me relevant topics and depending on the topic. He'll send me to different sources like ABC NBC CBS PBS NPR. Even BBC and it really varies but when it comes to what I WANNA know other people are saying a surprising as it sounds I like to look on social media because that is the probably the biggest biggest platform when it comes to communication and how politics it affects that today especially for kids my age based on what you know at this point. Do you think think that president trump should be impeached and even removed from office. I'll start with you nathaniel when it comes to if he should be impeached. I think it is is our responsibility to look into these kinds of things that are happening. Because I mean if you look at the whistleblower report there is obviously something that was going down that we as citizens have the right to know especially considering the fact that after that phone call went down multiple White House officials and the White House lawyers. Were doing many different things to cover it up which raises some eyebrows and questions about it but when it comes down to the impeachment itself we as citizens have the right to know what our president is doing and how it's affecting us on a day-to-day basis as for his removal. It might be a little too early to determine whether or not he should be removed completely but hopefully through the political process. We can find out if it is justifiable and complete grounds for removal movable. What about you Jamie? What do you think it's hard to tell right? Now like Nathaniel said 'cause there's so many things coming up right now at this moment but I do believe there should be a questioning of him like every other president. There should be if something does come up especially since it is has been hidden like make Danielson and by law lawyers. But I don't know about removal of office. And what about you Jessica. Just for my knowledge as a citizen currently I think that is absolutely the morally correct thing to do to proceed with impeachment but I know that it might not be the most strategic option for the Democratic Party Ultimately I don't know that he would be removed in the Senate and that would kinda come off as an exoneration when in fact I think it really just shows kinda the the partisanship and and almost overlooking of of certain maybe moral obligations nations. Okay I just want to ask each of you now about a few other things just because I'm curious honestly it's taken a long time for us to be able to assemble a group of of high school students to ask them about what life is like right now as a seventeen or eighteen year old. I Wanna I start with the fact that you were all born around the time of the nine eleven attacks tax but obviously you didn't experience them. How much do you know about what happened? I grew up with it. Being Very Hush Hush thing. Ni- it in a bad way but just trying to recover. Yeah definitely and respectful. Yes top landing respect always trying to be respectful of. Yeah I think any environment especially directly after that we were raised in It's definitely a difference in privacy. Assey for sure. I've definitely noticed that. Our generation is more accepting of certain limits on privacy for the benefit of safety and and I noticed that that's something that other generations are somewhat unhappy with and I guess that's may be a result of that well and the US has been at war for your entire lives Yeah do you do you feel that yourself. Do you have family in the military. I have two uncles in the military. They're not very close close to me personally. Because they have been moved around so much I never really got to grow up with them but it has kind of affected me when I did good to go see them and just seeing my cousins dealing with having to see their dowd leave constantly over and over. We're again so I has kind of affected me in a way that I can see how it affects families Different topic. What social media? Are you using right now. As of right now I use instagram and snapchat mostly yeah. I'd say probably primarily instagram Graham. I am primarily snapchat. I do use instagram. Sometimes for that is it but not facebook no actually I. I occasionally usually browse through facebook but not as often as instagram or snapchat. What about vaping? This is a big thing going on right now in high schools across across America. D- Are you. Are you guys vapors now. No no no and And why is that well. The thing is whenever vaping was first introduced the Russo so little that we knew about the long term effects of it and I was just really skeptical about that end. Obviously there are laws saying that. I shouldn't be doing back in so I didn't want to really subject myself to something like that. I grew up in a house with at least five smokers around me at all times hearing ringing as an alternative to smoking it never interest me. I am against smoking because I grew up as a little child in a room. Full of smokers with no ventilation listen in my lungs have been very much impacted by that. Okay let me ask you each one more question. which is what is the one place on earth earth that you'd like to visit I would definitely love to visit France or Russia. We hear bad things but on social media eighty he looks like a beautiful place and like just the snowy wonderland an annual always thinking of Antarctica. Because I think it'd be really interesting interesting to see a place so barren the has minimal direct interaction with humans and personally I'm just just a fan of the cold and so clearly. Yeah what about you Jessica Well actually I always been very interested trysted in Japan. I think the public transportation initiatives that Japan is working on his extremely interesting. And so I've always been in interested in and also just the culture is extremely engaging for me. Well I WANNA thank you all for taking time out of your schedule to join us. Today that is is Nathaniel Black Jamie King and Jessica Jones. All seniors at Putnam City High School in Oklahoma. Thanks a lot. Thank you and and by the way voter turnout for people. Aged eighteen to twenty nine was thirty six percent in two thousand eighteen from twenty percent in two thousand fourteen when a whale dies in the ocean and its body falls down to the Sea Ben. Something amazing happens when they hit not deep sea floor. It's like Thanksgiving whale. Falls the science of deep sea. Feast this week on shortwave the daily science podcast from NPR. After the warmest October ever recorded. Globally we are just days into November and much of the US is facing bitter cold and bracing for even even more next week joining us now. Is Jen Carfagno meteorologist and host of an age q at the weather channel. She's in Atlanta. Hi Jen Hi Jeremy Good to talk to you good to handle them here in Atlanta. Actually all the way into the cold air is on the move. It seems rather early. I must say people are already feeling cold but it is about to get even more more brutal. How bad and how soon wear well exactly so this cold we're talking about is coming in? In two rounds round one works in today. You're feeling feeling in the northeast or feeling it all the way into the deep South but by the middle of next week we are talking about not just below average numbers but getting below freezing all the way down to the Gulf coast. And that's going to be for more than two hundred million people and that's a big deal because we're talking January level cold in November well well and the National Weather Service is forecasting that next week's Arctic cold front could break one hundred and seventy records across the US. How unusual is it to have this kind cold weather in November? You know what's really interesting is just the fact that we're having this record cold because you talked about October being record warm globally and and when we look at record highs versus record lows we just don't set a lot of record lows anymore record highs outpace the record lows two to one so so just the act of breaking records is a big deal for us these days because it doesn't happen as often But the temperatures that we're seeing it's early to see these types of readings will end a lot of people will look at this and say more evidence of climate change whether it's to the high or to the low. We're seeing things more extreme than they have been in the past. Well that's exactly right and we are getting the extreme cold across the lower forty eight minutes. I'm really just the eastern two thirds of the country because in the West we we will be above average next week. So are you expecting a lot of snow next week. That's the other piece of this whenever you have a cold. Arctic air mass coming South. There's a front that brings that air. That's leading edge of the cold air. That comes south and so there will be rain ahead of it. How quickly does the cold air come in and does it getting quick enough to meet up with the moisture? Some places yes it will. That will happen. And you'll parts of the Ohio Valley Down Through Kentucky. Will it reach the Tennessee Valley. That's that's a big forecast challenge. And of course any brief mention of a snowflake in the forecast is everyone stocking their pantry. And you know the the bread and milk etc and there is some chances inches of snow but this does not look like a big snowfall event. The real headline for this second round of cold coming in next week is the fact that it's going to be that cold. It will have an impact on crops. it will have an impact on people because this is early for people to win tries their houses all the way into the south. They may not be ready for it and pull out those those winter coats already Probably keep him out for some time. Does this tell you anything about what kind of winter this is going to be like There's an old adage echoes. Winter will remember what happens in November. And so you know some will say yes. If it's a cold November then the rest of the winter will be that way and there is literally no scientific proof of that happening but people will still say it But as we look at the pattern we can. You see this pretty locked in for the next two weeks or so. And then after that we'll continue to fine-tune the forecast can't predict winter based on the starting November that is Jen Carfagno meteorologist assist host of am HQ at the Weather Channel. Jenn thank you Jamie great to talk to you one year ago today. The Campfire tore through Paradise California eighty-six people died and ninety percent of the town was burned to the ground. It is the deadliest wildfire in modern. California history are co host. Tonya Moseley has been reporting in paradise this week. And she's here with us now. Tony Welcome welcome. How are you I am well? Thank you Peter. How's it going there? I can imagine this. This is probably a tough day for people. It really is a hard day. A lot of folks we spoke with really just want to get all the memorials and commemoration ceremonies out of the way because the big focus is getting their lives back together. I actually met a mom. Who's GonNa have her son's thirteenth birthday party today? And they're all focused on that intentionally because they're really wanting to move forward It's just an example of how people are really focused the president and also being prepared for the next fire. which really is the new normal here? We'll talk about that because I know the town is trying to rebuild. We see that residents of applied applied for four hundred and fifty permits to rebuild their homes. But only eleven have actually done so. Why is that our people finding it hard to to come back into town into Move on there's so many things. Money is really the biggest hurdle about twenty percent of Butte County residents actually live in poverty here and a significant vacant portion of those folks did not have homeowners or renters insurance and then they're still hundreds of people living in these fema housing and trailers across the county. Johnny and they have to repeatedly reapply and show that they need the housing and you can imagine how exhausting that can be but to the money issue. Once you receive your permit you have one year to build. A lot of people are still trying to earn enough money to rebuild on their properties And a lot of folks are even struggling to qualify for some of the government and nonprofit assistance programs. We actually spoke to a woman named Inez. Salinas she lives in Congo which is a rural community not right next to paradise and was actually hit by the fire. I and she fills that because she was living off the grid and not relying on the electric company. PG Any any she is less able to access housing. I'm one of the people who fall through the cracks. I didn't have insurance. The property I was living. Non didn't have a physical address. I had no paper trail. That's part of living off grid for me. So I don't qualify for the long term recovery for most the programs in as now lives in a tiny house with her three year. Old Daughter is part of a program here and there is reportedly a wait list. I five hundred people for those homes. She happened to be one of the first ones to to get one yesterday. You introduce us to some families who are trying their the hardest to rebuild Must be very emotionally taxing. Not just today but you know all year trying to get this done absolutely and people really are just at the starting line and the challenges that I mentioned are the ones that are really visible. Then they're the ones that you can't see like the loss the people you love. It's a struggle fifty one year old sky said wake deals with every day. She lost her father John. Christopher said Wick in the Campfire was an author musician. Astrologist logger a nurse. He was many things he was my dad and and he carried out his duty as father right up until the end he and Skye live together on a plot of land that has been in the family for generations on the morning of the Campfire. I woke up November eighth so I died Pounding on my door my bedroom door saying Get up sky. Get up Fire coming up over the ridge. He sounded very matter of fact there was nothing like my dad was a former volunteer firemen. There was nothing like super alarming in his voice. There was just a matter of fact. There's a fire coming over the ridge. Sky Did was told gathered a few things and then turn to her. Father is a dad. What are you going to do you and he said I'm going to stay here from now? I I said Dad and he just that stubborn ass look and he gave me directions on which way he wanted me to walk from the House so he gave me. It's last little basin. I followed it and I walk through the woods when I walk through the woods that point there were large numbers falling. I was scary. I was one of the scariest times with my life skies. Sky's father stayed behind and tried to save their home and later that night at eighty two years old he went out to help. Croup it out a fire at a local favourite called the depot now so he was down there trying to save this historic building and The Pine Sugar Pine caught fire above the depot and the fire crew was told to retreat and that firemen specifically asked my dad. Please come with US and my dad said No. I wouldn't go on up the hill. You didn't make it up the hill. But he died a heroes. Absolutely my father John. Christopher said Wick Zero Sky now lives in a fema trailer. Forty five minutes away from paradise here at ice and the town of Grizzly but she can only stay there until may meanwhile she's waiting on the soil on her property to be tested to see if it's safe for her to return home home she'll then get a trailer on that property and lived there until she can save up enough money to build a house. It's The beautiful little piece of property. It's the smell of sage and serpentine man's Anita and which are all smells associated with my father? it's the first warning sign and He loved it. There are tremendous hurdles renters and homeowners. Like ext I have to jump through if they want to return to paradise in the surrounding areas for renters. There just aren't enough apartments and houses and for those who want to build old. They're more than a dozen permits. Need it and a lot of those permits have to do with building in a way that is fire resistant. So many of the homes that caught fire last year. We're made of wood mayor Jodi Jones who also lost her home in the fire says the issue of affordability is also heavy on her mind so many people were retracted to living here. Because it's one of the last affordable places in California and we've kind of walk this fine line between what are the requirements for rebuilding GonNa the B. and affordability. You don't WanNa put so many requirements on people that they can't afford to build rebuild their homes. The city is taking over an old bank building building over the next few weeks and bringing in experts and insurance housing and Financial Services to help folks going through the rebuilding process. And then there's the task luring back businesses earlier this week. The last of the debris was hauled out of paradise three million tonnes over the last year but eerily still standing ending are fast food and gas station signs next to empty lots. The mayor says there's so much to think about. We need a new emergency notification system system. We've applied for a grant for that. We've applied for grants for the roadways. We're working on a sewer system because our downtown did not have one before the fire and it's been very limiting so for to bring businesses back. We need to get that sewer sixty three year old lance watts. Watts says he's gotten used to traveling a few miles up the road to Chico to do things like eating shop but what he misses most are his neighbors are miss. Yes everybody all. My friends are all the people that I've known. This town are gone and bring really brings tears to my eyes. I'm telling you about to cry right now. 'cause I didn't realize how important all these folks were in my life. I want my town back so I'm trying to raise money to help. Those folks which is probably seventy five percent soon folks here. That didn't have the prime insurance they need help. Are there never come back. Mayor Jones can't help but be optimistic. That with enough support people. We'll return. She can't wait for this anniversary date to be over so they can all look to the future. Where pioneers we're building an entire town pretty much from scrat- that and there are a lot of challenges to that rebuild process? It's not easy. It's pretty stressful and and arduous and people are up for it. They want to do it. And they look at themselves as the next generation of Pioneers here on the Ridge Lance Watts Ponders Hondas that idea of being pioneers. He likes it and he plans to live out the rest of his days in paradise but with so many other wildfires burning in this state. There's also something else on his mind. Well people always watch the most recent thing And I hate to say it but in reality we're we're competing with the latest disaster. Spend year his plea and that have thousands of others who still call this place home. Please don't forget about paradise us for here and now I'm Tanya Moseley in Paradise California on Monday morning. Mercury will cross in front of the sun like a tiny speck of dust floating across the sun's face. So let's turn our telescope now to Kelly Beatty senior editor at sky and telescope Kelly. Hey Jeremy so this is pretty rare. It's somewhat rare. It's not uncommon. The last one was in twenty sixteen team. But the next one won't be until twenty thirty two so yes we want to take advantage of this one if we can and what exactly is happening that makes Mercury re-cross in front of the Sun to our is the mercury circles. Ascending mediate days. So you think this would happen all the time but its orbit is tipped with respect to ours by seven degrees so the geometry has to be right for this to sync up and these transits as we call them can only happen in May and November. So we're we've got this one lined up and it it's allowing us to watch mercury as a silhouette see it will be passing between us in the sun and it's not going to be visible by look at the Sun. Well I was GONNA say we don't want you looking at the sun anyway. This is the kind of thing that you're going to need a decent backyard telescope to see so who's going to be able to see it So this this will be visible all across the United States and in fact on the East Coast we'll see the entire five and a half hour event that's how long it takes mercury to crawl across the sun on the West Coast. The Sun will rise with mercury already part of the way across and I mentioned the next one being twenty thirty to the next time this happens with with the US in view of it will be twenty forty nine. That's thirty years from now. I think we should take advantage of this one. Okay so how do people do that. How can our listeners? Actually Actually Watch this happen. Yeah I don't want you drag him at dusty telescope out of your closet that you haven't used for ten years and tried to do this If you are going to use a telescope you need a safe solar filter across the front of it and those you might have left over from the eclipse of the Sun. That happened three years ago. but another way to do it is is to take that telescope and to not look through it but let the light from the sun stream through onto through the IP and onto a white card replaced. Where you're I would? Otherwise be and you really nice white disk of the Sun. That should be able to pick up. Mercury you can even do this with binoculars if you mount them on top of of our camera tripod and just let one side go through. I can just imagine somebody trying to do this and saying I can't tell us that it am I looking at the right thing. Ordinarily it would be challenging analogy because the sun would be full of spots itself all of which are about the size of mercury or even bigger but as luck would have it right now. There are no sunspots on the sun whatsoever so ever and so I'm hopeful that Mercury will stand out. You know going roughly across the middle of the disc so the knit point time if you were grungy look for it and you know where to look. It's going to be tiny. Mercury would be almost in the center of the Sun At ten twenty a m eastern time seven twenty. Am Pacific Nick. Time and you know adjust timezones accordingly. Okay and meanwhile what else are you looking forward to in the sky. Oh boy so this is a kind of a doldrums of the time of year for us. We you know this. Meteor shower called the Leonids right. which in the late? Nineteen nineties was gangbusters but it has dwindled to just is practically nothing right now. I think the next best opportunity to see something dramatic in the sky will be remember twenty second when you can see Jupiter and Venus close together in the low in the southwest after sunset and then the second week of December the Gemini Meteor shower which is one of the best all around the year showers throughout about the year Kelly. I just want to ask you out of curiosity of question that I've thought of in my life which is what do you think it would do to us as human beings. If let's say Mars was so close to the earth that you could see it every single night bigger than the moon right there. Well one of the things we would see is is that Unlike the Moon Mars would show us all of its sides. We'd see the entire thing. We only see half of the moon because of gravitational walking. That's gone on. We would see that Mars like the earth goes through seasons and so if you think speculation about life on Mars has been you know heavy up to this point it would be rampant interesting sidelight above nine thousand nine hundred. The French Academy of Sciences are offered a a big prize one hundred thousand francs for the first person who could establish communication communication with aliens on another planet except Mars because that was considered too easy. Too easy to still haven't been able to do it. No and you know they're the last time. The United States spacecraft to Mars to search for life was the mid nineteen seventies. Now we've got another one waiting in the wings that will do that Being launched next ear but really. It's an open book as to whether Mars has life or ever has had life and right now the probes that they send they're looking for other things looking for water the and stuff like that. That's right so in the case of curiosity which is a rover on the surface right now its main task is not biological to look for chemical changes that have occurred over Martian history. At one time Mars was a much wetter much more clement place with a thick atmosphere and babbling brooks you know and it since then it has become a deep deep-freeze world with really inhospitable conditions. And we want to know what caused it to get from point. A. Point B.. That is Kelly

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Observercast Episode 32: No Good Choices

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Observercast Episode 32: No Good Choices

"The little I'm Arnold. Hamilton. Editor of the Oklahoma. Observer. And I'm Marianne Martin and this is observer cast your weekly deep dive into Oklahoma politics policy powered by the Oklahoma Observer Democracy Foundation? Full Twenty twenty marks. The beginning of Joy hofmeister sixth academic year has Oklahoma's elected State Superintendent of public, instruction under her watch not year has commenced without its share of significant challenges. During her first four year term, the superintendent, the biggest hurdles revolved around funding as Oklahoma schools scrambled to do more with less after the great recession in a series of ill-conceived tax cuts by the legislature yielded the nation's deepest education budget cuts. The twentieth eighteen gross production tax increase that helped produce long overdue teacher pay raise renewed. Hope that better days ahead for Oklahoma's five hundred plus public school districts and seven hundred, thousand students. Unfortunately the GPT hike failed to generate enough revenue to make serious progress toward restoring school operating budgets to pre great recession levels. This year and this to the ever present fiscal woes hofmeister in state education leaders faced a different crisis at deadly pandemic that made returning to the classroom dicey at best. Hofmeister attempted to impose statewide standards aimed at keeping students, teachers, and staff healthy and safe. But a mandate averse governor himself a victim of covid nineteen and his appointees to the state. Board of education successfully beat back the Superintendent's proposals in today's observer casts the that are back to school series. We invited Superintendent Hofmeister to discuss the challenges facing Oklahoma's public schools and what she and her team are doing to ensure academic rigor into meet students, faculty staff, and community needs. All right. So tell us your name and what you do. My Name's Joy Hofmeister and I am the State Superintendent of public. Instruction in. Oklahoma. So it's been kind of boring lately Could not have imagined what we would all be going through in the year twenty twenty but who who else? Did I. Mean this is we're all in this together and everyone's feeling a lot of the same. Concerns pressure questions etc so. It's a it's a very challenging time. Aren't gonNA. Guess that one of the real challenges for you is to sort of you know is to be defacto schools chief in Oklahoma and yet not necessarily be able to wave a magic wand and have things unfold for the fall semester you think that they ought to. Well, that is a challenge and part of that is related to just the fact that it's a novel virus, of course. And then there's the other elements that that come into play What local counties Du The fact that we have five hundred forty districts We also have other state leaders we have. A variety of different boards that are all contributing and then other sister agencies that are all trying to work together. So it truly is a collective impact of lots of people trying to take information and make value judgment calls and and study. Where in walk where the science leads us? Basically. So what keeps you up right now? Are you sleeping at all? Listen Yeah I mean that that really is that is That's a really good. Good question I think to talk about with leaders I think that just like the district's school superintendents and? Principals it is the safety and wellbeing of our students and the individuals who serve in our schools that keeps me up at night Then second would be the education that our students need a deserve. We have a moral responsibility as well as the state constitutional responsibility to deliver and provide. So rapping those two together and balancing them is of the real. I think call for this time in pandemic that is GonNa have. Twists and turns That will throw obstacles in our way. We're GONNA have to get past? So you know after the State Board of Education vote last week where things became an accommodate our excuse me m recommendations instead of mandates What does that what does that actually mean for local school districts in terms of? Their ability to respond to. Elevations or any easing in the pandemic? Well, what it initially does is there is not a requirement for a unified type of response to the path of the virus that that was designed with a graduated response the full spectrum from you know a level green. To. Orange Yellow Orange and red where red being really a high level of of alert and alarm bells should be going off. So that is now left as recommendations but I do want to. I do want to add this You know the CDC gives recommendations as well and we follow them and we are seeing our school districts take to heart the details of that plan and Taking them to their board and adopting them. So that is that's really heartening to see yet at the same time I do believe that in order to really effectively. Suppress transmission we need to all be following the same set of safety protocols that match the the particular spread of the virus in our areas. We'll obviously. I don't think there's anybody around even US grandparents. I have four kids in Oklahoma public schools of V. One is not quite of that age yet. But like all of us know what's best for our kids and frankly for our teachers who love being with their students to be back in the classroom, but it it just it almost seems to me that. Oklahoma City Yen Putnam. City. What appears Tulsa is getting ready to do and and others that they're given our numbers that seems to be a smarter way right now. To approach this thing to go virtually from the first nine weeks and then see where the numbers. Yeah I have to agree what they are doing is informed by public health officials in their local counties they have really strong relationships in Oklahoma County and Tulsa County as well. So I, think that's the smartest move but you also have to know that not one of those districts ever wanted to begin in a virtual virtual delivery method and that is that's really hilly It's disappointing that we are at this place where we're having to make these kinds of decisions. There was an opportunity for our communities to have a lowering of the count of positive cases and. That that seems to be evaporating and slipping out of reach in some of these areas. So it's GonNa take some time to bring these numbers down and I think that you know if people want to see their kids back in school, we've been saying where mask socially distance yourself and then wash your hands and those three things can help us actually crush this virus at Camby done. We know how? To, do we know how to do it it? It can be it can be at a place where it's under control and I'm just I'm just pleading to the public to all see our our own actions as part of setting the right environment. So that children can return to person learning and that teachers can come with confidence that they will have a lowered risk with safety measures in place as well. Sorry. Well you know certainly in Oklahoma specifically. There's a deep concern for low income children at risk children you know children have have have from homes where. Caregivers absolutely have to go to work in. So what are some of the options that schools can do? To Take Care of those kids you know I personally am a big advocate of online starting virtual instruction first nine weeks at least. But absolutely acknowledged that there are kids who have to go to school they need in person So what can school? What can school districts do for those kids? You know even in our proposal where we do? Say, you get to a certain level and you need to be moving to either a rotation of students to be able to better social distance or have a social are have the online delivery. But even with that, we still said that we recommend our schools have in person instruction for Special Education Students, and those students who do not have connectivity. And going to truly suffer without that in-person type of face to face instruction. So even the worst level we still made accommodations for that kind of support. The goal is not to. Actually accelerate transmission. In a district like Oklahoma City you know thirty, nine, thousand or forty thousand people all at once in in super spreader events at a know with every. when you're in a community search. So that's the reason they are having to make these decisions and the larger the district, the earlier they're going to have to make these determinations. They can't just shift on a dime with that many households affected and as you just described Marianne you know there's other factors that parents are needing to. Plan for childcare and and for those who do not have access to quality child care, we have partnerships with boys and girls clubs. Ymca other other private industry are are our private non profits that are wanting to support our students and they need time to plan and gear up and make sure they're ready as well. So these unfortunately, decisions are having to be made at the end of July for some of our largest districts affecting the most children in the state. And in it's going to be. Online initially. By, the way total kate with that if I haven't mentioned. Sure you're okay with them do seem. On just won't be certain now now I I mean, I, don't make light of it but I mean this is this. I feel like for so many parents it's weighing heavily. You know I mean, it's really really weighing heavily in. But you know specifically in my community, we don't want to forget that there are families who don't have choices. Right? You know I, just think that decisions at the school district's make can really make that lack of choices worse. And you know I want to mention that our schools have had time now to prepare to invest to bring in higher quality of online tools that really will be markedly different than what we experienced last spring when we had to move on an emergency basis to distance learning I, mean those are that they should not be comparing and I wanna make sure that anyone who is thinking that what will happen in Oklahoma City or Tulsa are. Some of these other districts around the state are moving to is nothing like what we experienced in the spring so it is going to be actual. New Acquisition of academic skills. Instruction. Taking grades helping? To support students with learning gaps and holding both the. You know the the learning. And the family in some ways with some kind of accountability and support that needs to be given where the teachers can differentiate that virtually an provide those additional supports but it is also can can only happen if we have activity and so that's another aspect to this that we've been working on and our district's have been working on including the governor's office as well. So you know there's just so many. Sides to this that we're trying to develop. To meet the needs of students and families. Let's. Start. Let's talk a bit about the. The technology end of it because when we talked last spring when this was first unfolding and it was pretty chaotic needless to say dry on a dime in basically the two week period spring break week and the week to follow to get everybody in a situation where they could do something. And you could get as many kids as possible with access but We. We have We've made some strides that you've announced of to make sure that kids across Oklahoma do have that access. So there isn't that technology gap that you know disproportionately affects you know kids who are in lower socioeconomic group, for example Yes. Well, and that that gap still exists in Psalm areas of our state where. is going to take more than a particular vendor and a hot spot It's GonNa take. It's GonNa take the. Laying wire or some other kind of data casting that. Is some new technology that we know we can hear through even our public broadcasting towers so we're looking at. All of the above when it comes type approach when it comes to trying to find ways to solve the connectivity issues and for others, it is about economic barriers and so win our school districts have applied for a hotspot, which is a mobile Internet connection device We have been able to get a really reduced rate for that monthly fee that goes with it that the districts have applied for. We just announced that we have granted fifty thousand hotspot devices to give that internet connectivity to our schools and to then our families where. They don't have Internet at home, and so this is a help. Our districts can also tap in with that same rate and go above that fifty thousand mark we earmarked that specifically for low income families, but they can use an additional of fifty thousand or more for teachers that don't have access or for other families that may not meet that threshold we set. So we know that this need is is being addressed, but we have not close the digital divide and it remains a barrier, and unfortunately that can't be done in a few months. Can you tell us more about what those hot spots, how they work with the would they look like they would? How families would interact with the hot spots in how the hundred and how one hundred and seventy five districts is. We've got five hundred plus districts in Oklahoma. So how how? How did they rise to the top? Yeah expulsion. In, some of our grants they are competitive with lots of people applying for them and in others like this one because it's vendor specific. So if you do not have coverage with this, it kind of weeds out a lot of people who really have no per use for that this particular grant applying for it. So as it turned out we had fifty thousand to give and it was a hundred and seventy six who applied and as it turned out the number, they requested We were able to provide and reach our fifty thousand mark so that actually worked out that anyone who applied got what they needed at exactly the amount they requested So that's a great thing but you know there are other other providers that districts will need to reach out to with their own individual school as a appropriated federal funds that were meant for this kind of relief to go into some of these other providers that do give them access in their area to the Internet and the way it works is it is a little box that looks like. Almost, like a little phone if you will, and it just sits somewhere in your home and it's charged but it can go with you it's mobile or it can just sit on a piece of furniture and you then have an Internet connection three that, and then you can connect your computer to that Internet hotspot and that works for about maybe up to three devices and with strong strong connection we did say a few have more than three students in your home that you should have additional hotspot then to help keep that collectively strong for everyone. And then district's will pay A. Monthly fee that's extremely discounted and that will last for a minimum of six months they have to commit to that when they applied or it can be extended until the end of the Federal Declaration of emergency or the end of the school year whichever comes last. the Department of Education actually bought the hot spots. So we also got those at a deeply discounted. Rate so that we we did kind of the heavy lifting and the districts. Then have a a portion of that that they bear as well. that. Sounds a little easier than parking buses around in strategic locations Some I mean I. There is certainly that for some areas where maybe they don't have providers that even reach their area. So I'm not sure exactly how that would work I still think you'd have to have a provider, but they may be able to I. Mean, this is again where I mentioned. You know it's like we want all of the above when it comes to different ways of delivering this. The key is we know our students are going to have a time. This year even if everyone is able to start with in person learning, they will have a time where there's likely to be a quarantined that involves their own home and they're going to have to be away from school and will allow for them to have connection with their learning and with their class, and that's that's key for thinking about how do. The full year for all students. So whether what what? What other digital obstacles Do we still need to work on his estate for our students in this? Shall. We say unprecedented time I'm sorry I said Unprecedent, I think everyone's tired of that word but. It is truly. The perfect word though it's unfortunately had to be used quite often. Little worn out. York. Well you know I mean it's it's the gamut. It's from needing to have the connectivity to having the devices and then when we look at what districts can provide, they actually have a pretty good. One device initiative across the state, even in a lot of rule areas, severely the connectivity is the key and We also know that we're not the only state that has the struggle and so at the federal level, some of the additional relief packages that are being considered would include. Some. Assistance and help with this even with some of our with the corporation commission and in boosting that ability to have access. Across. State. Okay. So what I assumed to that you guys are. At least offering some guidance students, drinks about all they. Might. handle some of the other services. The schools provide two kids these days we have an awful lot kids in Oklahoma run free or reduced lunch. For example, at for whom going to the schoolhouse five times. A week is a huge deal in terms of plunger and and and and other issues not not mentioning, of course, sir, I guess we. Could Discuss the concerns that you know that the child abuse cases could be on the increase? Of this. Home. My goodness there's so many moving parts, hager there are, and again, we have a really strong partnership with DHS. I am so impressed with Secretary Justin Brown and his work at D. H.. he just been a really collaborative partner in problem solving in unique ways, and if there is something that we both discover, you know like, Hey, we found a clogging the system here. I, mean we are on it and we are in assume together we have of the right people on the phone calls from our agencies and it's like let's get this thing solved and like I love those kinds of partners So I'll give you an example as you were just now talking about child nutrition We became aware that Oklahoma had so many of our students that were not part of our free and reduced price lunch count or that that are part of that but have not been able to get access to like snap or some of these other types of services and so we. We realized that there was about a hundred and believe it was one hundred, sixty million dollars being left on the table. If we didn't quickly find the names and addresses of these of basically four, hundred, twenty, five. Thousand people who qualified of our children in our schools for a pandemic evt's card that would then be loaded with the funds to provide these kinds of nutritional. Meals or a food at the local grocery stores at a time when school is not open and so we were able to secure that very very rapidly and that was something that had we not had that quick strong. Understanding of what's needed to get involved we would've lost out on that and it wasn't you know us it was Oklahoma families that had lost jobs that had fallen below the free and reduced price lunch qualifying line and had slipped through the cracks, and so that's one example but there's many many waivers that we pursued. With US Department of AG. To ensure that, we could keep feeding students even if school is not in operation and that's something we'll continue to lean on to to have those waivers, stay current and pursue them and get our kids what they need whether they're in school or at home. So we've we've been talking a fair amount so far heading into. The. School year approaches about ought. student safety, and and the academics for students and talking about the tough decisions that parents are having to make. But. You know we hear a lot is I imagine you do from teachers who are not quite certain that at the end of the day, they're going to feel safe enough to go back into the classroom and I wonder if we're. Headed Toward A. A worse teacher crisis than we already have and and you know with all the emergency certified we've had in recent years and and whether it's all going to hit at once as the school year opens and. Are we prepared for that? Well. You're right and the answer is just it's one one more issue that that schools are faced to address except that I would say. I get it. teachers are. Waiting whether or not they feel they can trust their district's plan to lower the risk of transmission, and then making a a judgment call about whether that risk is something that their family can. Can Do and we know that we have teachers who have a variety of people they support. You know in their own home might be going through chemotherapy or they themselves have. A high risk condition, and they need to take these these coming days to determine what they are able to do, and where they best fit in the plan for their district But I'm also concerned about students that that also have co co morbidity as we know that our children in Oklahoma have some of the lowest health outcomes in the nation. So we shouldn't be surprised to think that. So many more of our students than in other places have asthma obesity. Diabetes and other conditions that leave them vulnerable. So I know this factors in the minds of those in local school districts and local school boards as they consider opening or in person or in a virtual setting or some combination. But it it's a It's a very serious thing to consider and if I was a teacher walking into a classroom I would I want to have a personal protective equipment that I have confidence will protect me an that will also protect the students that I would be working with. It's a two way street and unless everyone's protected were really are not accomplishing. The goal and the way the that for instance masks are designed. It's it's not about just someone wearing it because they don't WanNa get cove. It's about protecting others and wearing that masks so that they are protecting the whole community within their their institution whether that's a classroom or in the school setting. or in their own community and county so. I WON'T STOP Bringing. Awareness to how mask wearing is effective and I do think that you know governor did a very good thing in providing the P P for at least of the start of the school year and a lot of things that district's would have to spend time and effort securing, and we can make some of this available before the school year starts. So that's that's something we will be very grateful for Now, I I would say a now let's be sure to use it. And and that's going to go a long way. Well. It's. It's interesting though when you think about that because it really is just the tip of the iceberg, right about what's what's going to be need? I think that gives us a notion ten million dollars sounds like a lot of money. But when you're talking about one point, seven million masks that's that's probably about enough for what two for every student. In Other that leaves us in terms of teachers, but that's that's not much right. It's not and so it but it is start in. It's something that augments what district's had already provided or were planning. I know some districts were asking teachers to bring their own and this at least provides a teacher with a you know to washable masks that they can reuse the same for students as well. But yes, there's there's going to take more and we. Also know that there are a lot of shields. Those clear face shields, gloves, couns of that are also a part of this We did ask for these things the governor looked at their budget and what they were willing to invest initially, and we're very pleased that at least there is to as a starting point and then districts have already made other purchases as well. So it's IT I. Think we can expect that we have those supplies now. Across the state, the key will be we've got to use them a ten million dollars suggestion. So along those lines you know. Cleaning. Supplies. you know he the governor said yesterday that he hadn't thought about. Cleaning supplies for schools. is that something school districts are going to be able to You know do they have the money to? Procure the cleaning supplies that they'll need for this. Yes, we do know that districts have already started this process way back in the spring ordering things that have been on back order as well as cleaning supplies are very very key to ordering in advance and They did receive funds with the cares act, which was about one, hundred, forty, five, million dollars, and that was distributed among schools based on the level of children who qualify for free and reduced price lunch title one, and then There are those districts that did not receive as much and they are going to have to rely on a carryover funds or other other funds that they would have. But we know where we are in our economy, we know that. things have not been good and as we look at what we have lost this year just in the funding formula, it's a hundred and forty seven, million dollars. So that pretty much wiped out any benefit that they received with their federal relief, and this is why we are pushing and seeking additional federal relief It's I've been on a national call where we've been briefed on the different plans that are out between the House and the Senate and Congress and the Republican plan the Democrat plan in each chamber and the least amount of any of these plans is triple the amount of money that was given in the first relief fund. So that is a That the that gives reason for hope that additional resources are going to be coming and I do expect within the next two to three weeks, we will see that one of these plans emerge or a blend of them and we will see this past. So a sneak something in here enquiring minds, you know want to go there there used to be a TV commercial about that. But at any rate you were conspicuous in your absence from the governor's. P E. press conference should should we should we? Cynical or various types of the find find something. Interesting. In that while aren't all that can't be everywhere at once you know. I'll. See for. Every. We had raised the issue of p. p. e. n. e., the governor was receptive. We weren't the only one lots of people have been raising that issue. Of collective call for this kind of action was really really appreciated and in it and it worked and that's how how this is supposed to work. So it wasn't important to you to be there s part of this. What was important was getting the getting the grant or getting off the ground but getting the money for P., that that is always what's important to me I want the results. Let's get the results for our kids and our teachers and our schools and yeah it it was that was a good day. So so about okay so I'm projecting here the remind personal concerns but I think they apply statewide You Know My middle schooler sits in classrooms with thirty five other kids eight periods thirty five kids in each class in I know a high schools in my community it's upwards of thirty nine to forty, two you know what? Are the facilities in Oklahoma schools I know this isn't the same for you know some rural communities am where the class sizes are much much smaller but you know our school buildings in specifically the the ventilation systems are are they going to be able to allow children to socially distance you know? Is there something that we can do about that? While you? You've raised a piece of? I think important layer in safety, which is the ventilation system, and that is something that are the CDC has given really good guidance on our district's have taken that to heart, and this is again one of those types of. Of safeguards that has been in place since spring and I do think that you know that's one that's not real evident to people. But we know our districts are making modifications taking those recommendations whether they have different. or applying other filters or they are even changing the outside air coming in return rate and and that is one thing that is recommended as well. Even if you have no modification to your system that change can make a difference the other the other thing that I think we just. You know look at is our. So much of this is about layering and When you have a crowded classroom, you have to depend on those other aspects to give the fuller protection. So when we see a BI schedules, fifty percent reduction isn't enough to be able to socially does stunts the way it's recommended there are there's an interesting. Case. That is being studied and written about in France where they brought back the elementary children I. Where they could socially distance and spread out. And then after that went successfully and that was kind of in a stable position than they brought in. And their high school students recognizing that the children were not transmitting the virus. It seems at a level where the children were being becoming infected and ill and transmitting that to their teachers. Now, this is this was this is a small study that they're looking at but with two different schools but it is again things we can glean and learn from on how best to begin the school year I want to mention though. when we look at other countries and try to Glean and insight, we have to remember that they did not start until the coronavirus infection rate was back down to a baseline and stabilized for a period of weeks before they opened. We are not doing that we're actually opening in many cases where there is a surge and that is of great concern to me, and that's why our proposal included where it's. Fine. To be open, which is green yellow. We get into an area where we really better pay attention. This is a caution zone orange is that dangerous zone and red is too late. So the way we've graduated these detailed protocols to our schools it also involves extracurricular activity use of facilities win to cut this off. and. When we need to make decisions about. Having a reduction down to twenty five percent of the children in the school only being permitted back in. So I think that in a crisis people want specificity and we spent as much time as we could before time was up and we had to go forward with a plan as school is about to open and yet that is one that we built in a review revisit revise a date of September thirtieth and at any point the board could come back and make a change if there were indeed recommendations as well as mandates in place. Now, that it is just recommendations we we will not need to do a lot to change that we can change that on our own and and make some additional modifications if we need of through the state. Department and revisions to our original June, the third a document called return to learn Oklahoma a framework for reopening schools, and will we are actually about to release the second addition with some updates to that, and we'll continue to think of that as a living document. Averages thinking. You know if I if there weren't weekly revisions. Because all the information is so dynamic. There's no way that couldn't be a living document literally so It is true and you know it is dynamic and one of the things i. kind of mentioned at the beginning when I re re said that some superintendents are Talking to me and saying, I'm in this county and it's yellow or I'm in this county that just turned from Orange Wanda orange to, and so that tells me they are paying attention to the dynamic nature of the spread of the virus within their own counties. That's what it's. GonNa take I mean when schools began to look at this, the school community is really the powerhouse that affects change in a community and if we get. Everyone's attention on that spread and those numbers then it will have behavior modification That occurs that will lower the spread and so that awareness and it's a mutual effort between the State Department of Health, they put out the numbers. That come from those local county health departments and then are applied to that heat map and our schools are looking at that and then looking at the protocols that we've set in place for safety and they're applying that at the local level. So we have a nice bit tight. Plan with specificity which I think we need, and again I've said this before it is absolutely appropriate when we have a national emergency. State. Crisis of Public Health Event and I believe it calls for a state directive and that's how we can crush it and open schools and keep them open. So? What does a successful twenty? Twenty one school year? Look like to you. Successful year would mean no matter how you open and begin. That children make strong connections with their teachers that families are engaged that we have rigorous coursework no matter how that's delivered and that begin to close instructional gaps where they have developed or widened, and that each child is on their own individualized learning pathway where that that goal that is set to be at that academic. Attainment at the end of the year is acknowledged and we see where that starting point is and we've given the tools to make that happen for every single student free of charge that the no cost a district to our districts, and that is something that the State Department, we have granted to every school. So everyone in the state has access to this ability and that to me is how we get to a successful twenty twenty, twenty, one school year with our kids having academic gains. So Is there a way. Other really good ways to measure progress when you have. Districts, approaching this many districts approaching the so differently. And I can't help wonder if the the traditional measurements. The third grade tests and and so forth whether they you. Sort of out the window. In the midst of all this, you know they the end of year tests are Kinda Post. We'll there are summit of test at the end of the year we do get those results back to our families ten days after the testing window closes. That is something that we've really changed in the last time we gave them. But what we need to know is where our kids right now and we have to be able to pace that learning and and in some ways accelerate that learning without. Going so fast or at a quickened pace that it creates too much pressure and that it's not learning for the long run. So this tool exact path that we have purchased that goes that's available for all of our schools and over six hundred childcare centers in partnership with H S as well. So that win those children move from the school day into the the time school or before school with these wraparound services. They will also be able to be supported right there. In the same you know tool and the schools are going to receive all of that information digitally. So yeah, we're going to be able to not just wait till the end of the year, but to know right away when a child starts answering those questions, it begins to develop where is your starting point? Where's your strength weakening weaknesses and where you need to be, and then it charts a path and continually. Adjust as it's adaptive software. So we we in it's aligned to Oklahoma academic standards for math and reading language arts. So these are these are some tools that will help us as we have to know where are the children right now, and what can we do so that when our teachers have that? That individual time with that child nothing's wasted. They know exactly where they need reinforcement and the analytical tools for teachers digitally are really really robust, and that's GonNa be used in a classroom whether they're rotating through stations with the computer or if they have to shift to home or in the after school setting as well. You do you imagine it's always it? Obviously, every school year when the kids return some kids are a better position from their summer months off and other kids are academically Do you imagine with the longer time off this year and everything that's been going on those extremes are going to be even more significant and make it even more challenging for the teachers absolutely, and we know that and it is going to be a tremendous loss and it is not going to be resolved in the first. Couple of weeks of school There are some that I believe will have a lingering deficit that we have to address right away with great intensity with great focus, and again, you have to have that information to be able to know where those gaps are, and if you are closing them are not and so this is again part of that tool that will that we're providing but it is also on the minds of every educator and I will I will give our governor credit for recognizing that. This has to be a priority that he acknowledges. Our children have lost much of the learning or there's unfinished learning and I agree with that, and this is part of what I think drove his interest in making an online of content management system available to districts free of charge for that sixth through Twelfth Grade Course Selection. As well, with his learn anywhere plan and that's using a tool called Edmund Tom, it does it does blend with what we purchased a, which is called exact path, which is also from mental. So this these are just some examples of additional support that's made available to our districts. If they want to use them in some cases, I think some things have come a little later than what we would have liked but I can tell you that everyone is working very hard right now and there are delays that are unavoidable in some cases, and then there are really good ideas that come late. So we. Were just. You know this is happening at the state level but I know there are conditions and decisions made at the local level as well, and it's a time where I believe everyone is working their hearts out right now So I try to extend grace and ask people to extend grace my way to. I don't have anything else arnold so. Short. Lot. WHITCOMB. We. Really the time I know you are. A time has to be rare for you these days. So I appreciate you guys and thanks for helping spread some of the information that that will be I. Hope you've really useful for others. I think good. Good. Clear. 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"The following podcast contains explicit language. Hello i'm josh le'veon's plates plates national editor and the author of the queen nisa slates sports podcast hang up and listen for the week of august nineteenth two thousand eighteen on this week. Show we'll talk about jay z's new partnership with the n._f._l. What it means for the league and he still unemployed colin kaepernick also discussed joseph size multibillion dollar deal deal to buy the brooklyn nets the highest price ever paid for an american sports franchise finally will select the words that we would like to ban from these sports lexicon joining me in washington d._c. Studio is a high character guy the author of the book word freak and if you talking to panic stephan fats <music> hi motor to just want to point out that's implicit also with us this week from our studio in brooklyn. It's the guy who brings the intangibles he the theater critic for the new yorker and a charter member the fan club for r. J. barrett ak the maple mamba. It is our friend vince cunningham vincent. Hey i am all of those things. That's true <hes> before we get onto business today. I wanted to let folks know that hangup. Alum mike pesca is doing a live of it show at the bell house in brooklyn. It's on monday september sixteenth. That show is the gist comedy special it will feature hari kondabolu blue among many others tickets are twenty bucks and you can get them at slate dot com slash life. Go see pasqua the n._f._l. Didn't look so great when it became public a couple of weeks ago that one of its franchise owners billionaire stephen ross of the miami dolphins was hosting a two hundred and fifty thousand dollar alert per person fundraiser for donald trump in the hamptons ross defended himself in a statement touting a sports nonprofit. He runs and calling himself an outspoken outspoken champion of racial equality dolphins wide receiver kenny stills called bullshit on the dissonant messaging and during a preseason game knelt during the national anthem as he has done in the past to support banished quarterback colin kaepernick and racial justice ross held as event which combined with another one to raise twelve million dollars for trump. This is not where the n._f._l. Figured it would be at the start of the twenty nine thousand nine season not after taking all the crisis management handbook steps to quell criticism that it was insensitive at best to the concerns of its predominantly african american workforce it had settled a grievance filed by capper nick that the league's thirty be two teams had colluded not to hire him it had created a program to spend one hundred million dollars on social justice issues and last week and what the league must've figured it would be the final final piece of its rehabilitation it announced it was partnering with rapper and entertainment mogul jay z as part of that program that last thing quickly backfired the the j._c. Deal was criticized for what it mostly seems to be a music promotion contract with kapernick. Ally eric reed of the carolina panthers tweeting. Jay z. doesn't need the n._f._l. Helped to address social injustices. It was a money move for him and his music business the n._f._l. Gets to hide behind his black face to try to cover up blackballing colin vincent the n._f._l. Can't seem to get out of its way on this issue but really is there any reason to believe the n._f._l. Should be capable of getting out of its own way here. It's it's unclear to me. What is in the n._f._l.'s way him how it thinks it's getting over what that is right. I mean if you believe last. Here's statistics like they're kind of fine. It's like there are all these <hes> symbolic things that it seems totally inept. I mean it. That's always is going to be the case if everybody that's your big stakeholder as like an elderly white guy right like that's just how it's gonna go like a lot of rich people who don't have necessarily merrily the the reasons or the wherewithal to keep up with the ever moving political debate and people who are probably essentially conservative at heart <hes> but what they can't can't are these these symbols in i think the capper nick affair has been all about symbols and it won't ever be resolved dryden until there's a sort of commensurate symbol at its end. I think that's what the the frustration with this jay z thing. It's just like well. It didn't end because no one's what whether the symbolic alec thing. Is you know giving capper. Nick another contract or whatever that is the the sort of symbolic of it has not finished even though the sort of business this fundamentals for the n._f._l. Seem to be kind of untouched. There's this weird disconnect between whether the league is doing well on a sort of base level and weather weather. It is sort of broadcasting all the right signals to those who are sort of alive to hear them. I think your premise stephan is a little bit more more questions than maybe made. It seem speaking of like whether this backfired for the n._f._l. Was a bad new cycle for the n._f._l. But got you know perhaps goodell in the league. Were thinking that this was mostly a music and entertainment deal. This was a deal jay. Z is going to produce produce some songs for the league to use and marketing. He's gonna program the super bowl halftime show. Perhaps this will stave off the possibility of three doors down being the <music> halftime at the super bowl which then that would have been a bad thing for for the n._f._l. To make the super bowl trump inauguration ball but <hes> you know the social justice component. Maybe that was just they thought it was a bonus like let's also as we're programming the super bowl. Let's kind of toss the sand and maybe get some good press for it. They in fact do not get and that's the problem. It's the the n._f._l. Believes that it's doing things again. The come out of crisis management playbook that in the end are completely counterproductive that they think that oh we're being great here. Hey it's jay z. <music> big-name rapper has been involved in social justice issues in the past. How can it go wrong if we partner with them. Well it can go wrong because he can get up to. The microphone founded basically insult colin kaepernick a lot of people and a lot of n._f._l. Customers still ally with and feel was done wrong. I mean jay z. said i think we've moved past kneeling. I think it's time to go into actionable items which is kind of a shitty thing to say. We got caught. We get stuck on colin not having a job. You know what i'm saying in this is more than that dave's iron said vinson <hes> picture roger goodell laughing his ass off that jay z catching all the flak instead of stephen ross or himself for copper knicks exile and the league's trump's support jay z. was paid well to become a different kind of shields. What do you think of that take. I think it's essentially salihi correct. I mean i do think that there is a certain clueless nece where like i'm sure a lot of n._f._l. Owners are genuinely excited to be like oh jay z's here in the same way that like last last year for example robert kraft who apparently helped to craft this deal between <hes> jay z and roger goodell robert kraft he he was super excited to to be seen helping meek mill get out of jail last year right. I mean i think there is some sort of sincere possibly clueless interest there on behalf of these guys in sort of commensurately rich black sort of cultural icons but in another sense i think there is that shield aspect aspect and my sort of corollary for this sort of climate change in a weird way i think the n._f._l. Knows in the same way that many citizens know that like there's little they can do to really turn back the ravaging effects of whether it's the climate or their their reputation but they have sort of switched into a mitigation mindset. I think that this like it's not going to be a great <hes> new cycle. No one's ever gonna say like the n._f._l. Is fixed <hes> but they might spend some time talking about some some aspect or another of the the sort of little moves they do to look a little bit better and i think if they're doing this kind of blocking and tackling <hes> <hes> no pun intended <hes>. I think that's kind of fine for them. I think they've mitigated a look into some of the deeper darker issues except that there there is a way to do this right. I mean the n._b._a. Has demonstrated that it is possible to have white guys running your league at the very top positions and yet to genuinely humanly and sincerely show that you care about these issues and that you are connected to the players and i mean maybe we've done too much unfair criticism of the deal the n._f._l. Did cut with this players coalition last year. That was the group that malcolm jenkins of the eagles as ended up spearheading players like eric reed backed out of it because they felt that it was run by the n._f._l. That it wasn't sincere but there've been some defenses of the work that that's going on with fat. That seemed pretty legit. Benjamin watson of the patriots tweeted a defense of his work and the work of other players in this in this group yeah i mean there's a genuine i think difference of opinion and there has been for the last year plus if not more between the capture nick read faction and the jenkins watson faction and i think you can now say the jay z. As part of the malcolm jenkins players coalition group about what the approach should be about whether are there any approach is good or fair justified. If it does not involve kapernick you know being a part of that group and it does is not involve a deal to get capper nick back on the field and i can understand the perspective of somebody like watson and i think thank you vince and back to the question of whether jay z is being used as a shield. I think the reason that he's being talked about here more than anyone else isn't necessarily because he is more to blame. It's because his role here is genuinely the most confusing like you know what the n._f._l. Is getting out of this. You know where eric agreed and colin kaepernick are coming from but jay z is somebody who has spoken out very strongly it loudly defensive colin kaepernick. He wore a cabernet jersey on saturday saturday night live. He has been one of the loudest and most prominent voices around the trayvon martin case around khalif browder and didn't he do some lyrics tell the n._f._l. Stadiums to in one of the songs yeah yeah and so i think it it is interesting and again confusing to think about what is jay z's thought process here and he didn't really do an amazing job in that press conference of explaining explaining it yeah. It's it's it's confusing and it's not right. It's confusing if you think of jay z. person <hes> and not to get all like bernie but like it's not confusing if if you think of him as a billionaire like nobody makes as much money as he has without doing things that are sort you've <hes> perhaps contradictory or hypocritical <hes> we're gonna talk about the nets later but he he definitely played a similar similarly really sort of laundry role in making the net seem a little bit less nefarious when barclays <hes> used eminent domain to clear out a whole section of brooklyn to create a stadium right. This has been one of his cultural roles to sort of provide cover for sort of dubious outfits. I think that's fair to say well. Hop in and ask you about what jemele hill road which is jay. Z. didn't always have the luxury of avoiding leading relationships and partnerships with people disagreed with their disliked but then jamal says in this case jay z isn't getting enough out of the deal to justify the sacrifice of some of his credibility ability. Does she know how much getting that week. That's something we can say on this podcast from <hes> as much as i liked mel hill i just i don't know that that's necessarily <hes> the case and by what sort of rubric moral financial whatever you would even say how you know whether how how much is enough and then yeah i think that jay z and roger goodell lost the press conference and again. I get back to saying that. I think we're being a little premature to say that this backfired on the league like let's you know we're going to have to wait eight months or years to see what jay z does do with this or get out of this to to really come to a final conclusion but the one way of reading it as of the n._f._l. As a p._r. Mission thought that this would look good and explicitly chose to link a perfectly rational all business alliance with jay z the entertainment mogul with this other problem that they have and the unspoken part of the the whole problem is that it all emanates from colin kaepernick all of this is colin kaepernick's doing and the n._f._l.'s never going to acknowledge that we're taking these steps book because we fundamentally agree with look positions that colin kaepernick was arguing when he took any me and stood his ground and refused to co opt his principles to get back into the league and put his money where his mouth is and has become first and foremost a up a social justice entrepreneur but yeah and i think to the point about symbols. They're never never going to look good right in the way of you know you think about the what the n._b._a. Has done partially by not putting itself into situations like this to begin with but it's like they're never going to to do that unless they take that sort of path of contrition and say what you just sad and say not only do we agree with the things that he was standing for but lee were wrong to prohibit a certain kind of protests and a all of the things that we've talked about because it's been about those two things right that's part of the confusion matt. It's been about the substance of the issue but also about this sort of legitimacy of a private corporation calling certain kinds of protests right. They're never gonna look good in the way that we wanted to look good unless they say these things that they're just not going to say and they have. They're not gonna do that yeah. They're not going to do and when they tried to do it. They bring someone like jay. Z who kind of said it but he said it's it's oh so ineffectively and critically that it sounded like he was criticizing kapernick as opposed to supporting him so back to a couple of weeks ago <hes> jeremy stall our colleague wrote the league would never have been put in a position to fund any kinds of social justice causes if it wasn't trying to control the movement that colin kaepernick started and so i think you could reasonably argue that the whole reason the jay z. has the opportunity to that stands at a press conference and say we need to stop kneeling because colin kaepernick knelt in the same place so it just <hes> that that greats <hes> <hes> michael harriett road on the route that any social justice partnership with the n._f._l. That doesn't include colin kaepernick not only lets the owners off the hook and validates their shadow ban dan but it essentially prophets from the movement that he started and hands the proceeds to the n._f._l. Two things so <hes>. I think were being a little little bit. I don't know if naive is the right word but even if the n._f._l. Hadn't said anything about social justice in relation to partnering with jay z he still would have come in for criticism in the league would have to i mean with the super bowl halftime show last year that ended up with maroon five leading the bill. There was just like a succession of reports of black entertainers performers who were reported to be linked to add who said that they didn't want to be involved and so it's become i'm this kind of litmus test of like. Will you do business with the n._f._l. And that comes up whether the n._f._l. Makes it a social justice partnership explicitly explicitly or not and then the second thing is that when we're trying to answer jamal hills question of whether jay z. got enough out of this there. There was a report in t._m._z. that <hes> jay z. is going to become part owner of an n._f._l. Team so we we don't know if that is you know. Ninety percent eighty eighty six percent one hundred percent or lasts but that's a report that was out there. It does make me think you know that the in some ways the the n._f._l. Has been shrewder than we give them credit for in their choice of jay z. I i mean in some ways. Obviously he's the obvious choice but it does. This kind of move does also align very closely with the kind of aesthetics and philosophy that jay z has been putting forward for like. I guess you could say the last five years <hes> his last album for forty four was all about like part of it was about sort of atoning for cheating on his wife but then the other part of it the other main <hes> strain of it was like you young guys gotta to get him to what i'm doing like. You got to buy property and you got to <hes> get off. You know you can't make change unless you get a seat at the table with in in tables like a presumably this one with roger goodell and the n._f._l. Ownership right <hes> he has put forward a sort of in the seat at the table has been sort of consistent with him and so in some ways. It's not surprising to hear this and i can imagine him <hes> ardently believing the things that he said at that press conference was which is we've passed beyond the symbolic part of this and now it's like now. Somebody's has got to be at the table to make to make these changes <hes> he even said like so that the next time there's a someone con cabinet and somebody has these issues like this they can bring them to to honor shepper they can bring them to the league and it doesn't have to play out on the field chilling to me but again consistent with this sort of like booker t. washington washington ism that he has been putting forth for a while now. Maybe we're missing the long game here which is that when jay z becomes an owner. He's gonna bring in kapernick and then he will cackle and say that was his plan all of them not holding my breath for that. 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You're celebrating savor this season with a fall favorite sam adams octoberfest sam adams octoberfest game while it's here the boston beer company boston massachusetts savor the flavor responsibly responsibly a decade ago mikhail prokhorov acquired eighty percent of the then new jersey nets basketball team him for two hundred twenty three million dollars and the assumption of a bunch of debt he sold forty nine percent of the team to joseph cy the co founder of alibaba the chinese john a few years ago for around a billion dollars and last week sold the remaining fifty one percent two cy for one point three five billion the valuation asian of two point three five million dollars makes it a record purchase price for a sports franchise. That's right the brooklyn nets founded in nineteen sixty seven as part part of the american basketball association all time winning percentage four thirty two sold for more money than any american sports team ever this surprises me josh but it also reflects the way that the limited commodity of sports franchises have exploded in value. Yeah i mean part of that. Is that a a team that would have sold for more than the brooklyn. Nets has not gone on the market. The ones that get sold tend not to be the ones that are the blue chip historic back mount rushmore franchises. Whatever cliche you want to use so like the clippers get sold but not the lakers <hes> wait or does that <hes> imply that the knicks or a blue chip franchise. I'm i've tried myself in a corner geared fence. I don't know how to get out of it with the knicks you wouldn't go. Oh there with the knicks sell for more than two point three five billion. I say maybe yes they would sell for five billion four billion. I guess i mean they have r._j. Barrett <hes> i mean i think you're right. I think the tilleke now the precious resource that he is. I think <hes> it only takes one rich dude you to want to buy a team and when a rich dude buys a team he and it's always hey sees the name and sees the only only the best possible outcome and honestly why wouldn't he because it seems like these franchises never go down in value. Hopefully we'll get it later. In the conversation. May we can talk about how and when that could happen. Yeah i mean part of the the story here especially if you think about the nets and we've already talked about a little bit about sort of the the process that made barclays and therefore the the nets in their current generation sort of able to exist part of the under girding of all of this is the public financing of arenas <hes> ben mathis lilley for for for slate wrote a really great piece about how how all of this sort of rests on the public and therefore the public should be able to expect some sort of return on that which of course never happens right but that's part of what makes this these these resources just go up and up and up in value without any kind of fear of a drop on the on the on behalf of the owners i mean the the pathway the pathway for franchise values to go down would be for an entire league to that fail i think and maybe there's a pathway for that happened with the n._f._l. Given brain injuries but <hes> as far as the n._b._a. Goes i mean i guess another pathway as if cities and states and governments on mass decided that there are no longer going to provide these subsidies <hes> <hes> there's been no indication thus far that that that's a foot there have been periods of flattening. There have been franchises that sold for less than what they're buyers paid for them. Usually quick turnarounds not the ones that have been held for obviously a decade or longer so there really isn't much evidence that you know that this is a market. That's in decline these remain. There are only thirty two of them in the n._b._a. and the n._f._l. And thirty in baseball i mean they're just not a lot of them. They are scarce commodities and there are more billionaires than ever that are apparently willing to to buy they will once. We pass say extremely aggressive wealth tax in this country. They're just not going to be any people who can afford right these prices of the next by the way getting while the getting's good for forbes annual valuation lift list of sports franchises. The knicks are at four billion dollars tied with the a yankees as the second most valuable u._s. sports franchises after the dallas cowboys james. Dolan's claimed that he has been offered five billion dollars for the next could be true. Take the money as long time makes money did yeah get it good but i mean i do think that dolan's sort out of refusal to get off the knicks partially it has to do with economics talked about but partially reflects a generational difference right. I mean if feel like it's the mix and the lakers and maybe some other m._b._a. Teams that are kind of family legacies right and and jerry buss of the lakers famously. I mean it was a real i mean it was his it was run as a family business it was he was running it to make money off of it in a way that the newer class of mostly tech owners in the n._b._a. or not right these people aren't running them to make money off of them. It's a purely <hes> vanity play and it's interesting. I think this kind of intersects with what we've already said about the n._f._l. Owners and they're sort of relative closeness. There are a whole generation of people who have run these things essentially actually as members of a country club right. It's like the n._f._l. Ownership is like a smaller augusta right and it's there's a sort of old boys that's going out of it and it's becoming more and more financial is and and and sort of tech people being the the main movers <hes> and this is part of why i think transactions like this this one are part of why the n._b._a.'s starts to seem a little bit more progressive because it's like you know the same ethos that gives you google and other tech companies that have you know great diversity policies or know how to speak that language these new raft of owners in this new after sort of buying their way into the league does affect culture in a way that maybe hasn't happened as quickly in the n._f._l. Is another leaves and this is a good thing for the n._b._a. Program was a terrible owner. He bailed out brooklyn and bailed out the developers of this atlantic yards complex in two thousand nine right after the recession by giving them a lot of money to take over part of that property and then to assume the team <hes> he hasn't done shit. He was an absentee owner for most of the time. He delegated their trades. You know his mission was. We're going to win the n._b._a. And five years big-name splashes willing to spend money they were luxury taxed all the time none of it worked and turning it over to someone that seems to be by his other investments in sports someone who cares about the business and and as you mentioned is sort of brings a sort of more tech philosophy to operating a pro sports team is only a good thing for the n._b._a. Yeah i mean it's a good thing for the n._b._a. In terms of helping open the market <hes> china <hes> does for sure. I mean who's to say what going into business with south china will mean kind of long term for for the league but <hes> there were risks when broker of the nets everyone is concerned about whether it would be a good thing to bring the n._b._a. Anti-russia or or a bad thing and it turned out to be neutral because he doesn't seem to really care very much so i mean one thing that then be a and and i guess now the premier league have going for them in terms of franchise valuations is that there is this international appeal these franchises. You have americans buying in to the premier league. You have massive international interest and the n._b._a. <hes> you know that hasn't so much been the case with the n._f._l. Doesn't seem to be hurting the franchise values for according to this forbes last all of the franchise than n._f._l. Are worth two billion dollars or more stephan. Gonna put you on the spot so two thousand twelve according to this forbes last and you know these are just estimates but they <hes> sat in two thousand twelve. There's only one pro sports sports team in the world manchester united those worth more than two billion in two thousand eighteen. They have fifty on their last. <hes> is this just because of the reality of these sales is resetting the market and so they're increasing the values for that reason is because of massive live television contracts that have increased value or or what else could explain that kind of massive jump in the short period of time i think in in the n._b._a. It's certainly a better labor deal for the league. They're only sharing fifty percent of certain defined revenues with the players versus fifty seven percent in the past and that labor deal has proven to be an absolute boon for management more broadly. I think it's the the continued expansion of rights fees and commercial the opportunities in markets. The premier league has been the best league in the world capitalizing on the market for soccer in places says like china and other parts of the world that had not been targeted by these big leagues before and it is the rise in the number of billionaires globally globally that have the wherewithal to buy these teams which drives up the price of the price. I mean look if there's more simple economics if there there's more interested in buying these teams the prices prices are going to continue to go up absent some sort of global economic depression or more narrow sports depression. I don't think we're gonna see much decline in in the near term flattening certainly but as long as there are billionaires to buy these <hes> we're gonna see interest continued interest in the fact that's happened in a short period of time is reflective of the fact that we've had a great economy. I was wrong. It's not every n._f._l. Team that's worth more than two billion dollars. It's almost every n._f._l. To lose not yet so i i actually found a forbes list from two thousand eighteen that says twenty eight or worth two billion dollars or more <hes> the ones that are not cleveland browns at a middling one point nine five billion cincinnati bengals one point eight detroit lions some anti midwest bias one point seven billion and then in last place the team the donald trump could not afford the buffalo bills one point six billion dollars. Wow we thought about the green bay packers but they are on here two point six to five billion dollars. Despite being publicly owned has not suppressed is one of the famous ones right so one of the more famous i mean the biggest threat to all of this is that there's some major disruption in the way that sports leagues are distributed to the public and that means a decline in in in in rights fees from the broadcasting industry <hes> if fantasy seaports become more popular than real sports or sports become popular if tiff television networks aren't willing to spend the money because they are getting you now outflanked by digital properties and some digital properties don't see the value in the in the league's then there could be some shakeup but again evidence or one point six billion dollars. I mean it's just so rare to be a rich person to be able to make an investment meant that if recent history is a guide is not going to decline in value. It's going to go up in value and also makes you seem cool and gives you like all of the perks of wealth and what's the point of being rich. If you can't own a sports franchise i mean i can understand why there would be intense competition and interest <hes> the by the kings yeah why not not all right. I wanted to let you know that in our bonus segment for slate plus members this week stephan and vincent and i will talk about the departure of deadspin editor megan greenwell and what else is afoot at one of the most important and influential sports websites in existence. If you wanna you hear that segment and you're not a member you can sign up for slate plus. Just thirty five dollars for the first year can do that signing up at slate dot com slash hangup plus all right steph van. We have been using the internet website twitter dot com to do some of our programming in in recent weeks and there is a thread that got us thinking it was started by a guy named troy mac her and the threat was you get to ban one word from the entire lexicon of sports. What word are you banning. He then came up with the top ten list of words to ban. How do you want to start. Do you want to come. You want to list your word. Do you want to go through the top ten. I we should save our words for later to build some suspense. Okay the segment all right. Let's go through this top ten less. I think my word by the way is hands down the word on his list so all right all right the number one word on here. Vinson is his class curious for your response to class slash classy slash classing. Does that deserve the number one spot in words that should be banned from the sports lexicon. I do not think that it should be number. One necessarily are certainly certainly don't think it's like a hands down number one but i do think it belongs on the list. I do think that it's one of those words that's not only cliche <hes> but it also sort of contain. It's one of those liezl words that contains a lot about how we talk about athletes how we connect certain performances of virtue to sort of what happens on the court which most time is totally bogus like when we think about what's wrong with sports. Analysis classy is one is one of those things that way kind of of encapsulates large swaths of the thing that's wrong so <hes> i'm fine with classy doesn't knocked my socks off but it's it's. It's it's okay. It's almost always used in a hypocritical or disingenuous. Way is a i think a good reason for its position here. No no one who says that an opponent is ants classier didn't act with class would ever say the same thing about their favorite team engaged engage in the same accent. <hes> stefan number two is talk about which is used here in a little bit of a a cheat because he spelled talk about without a space well. I would say i i would. I would stipulate that you have to understand that a word. The word word doesn't necessarily mean a single word in lexicography. This is hard earned linguistics. This is known as lexical unit so you can. I'm getting into some definition of the word is definition of a word is not a word multi. Word phrases are words in a linguistic sense all right. We'll talk about talk about then stephen. <hes> this is a late comer. I mean really. I don't know that it's been around long enough for it to catapult number two on any list i mean talk about. Is this shorthand <hes> that's that some journalists us in press conferences particularly to ask questions of athletes rather than asking the actual question. They just say talk about this or talk about that and it's a cliche. The lead of bryan curtis grantland piece was talk about the most insipid thing you hear in locker s <hes> greenpeace pittsburgh ryan that was yeah. I know that it merits you know. I'm more concerned about about words that are used in in ways that reflect some sort of naive today or by ass or hidden intention sorta weasel words are the ones that make me angrier than something like this journalistic shorthand well. It's kind of the opposite in a way vincent of what you were saying about <hes> in class and how it's the signify it it says more than is actually contained in the word whereas talk about contains nothing. It's an entirely content free and it's a stand-in. Dan like the reason to object to this is because it stands for the total lack of information that's conveyed and many any sideline interviews and post game interviews one thing that i had a question about here actually <hes> to use deference there to sort of distinct lexical units that talk about refers to there's the non question that we're talking about but then there's the one that i actually really liked because talk it sort of speaks to regional ways that people speak so that's the interactive talk about the the talk about such and such and i hate that one as we've talked about there is is a good one though which is like the the the sort of declarative talk about a great dunk on you know that kind of the sort of he'll be brownish one and i liked that one because it's sort of it's it crams a lot of meanings when it's like here's here's an example of something that was just displayed on the court. That's a totally different talk about yeah so i don't know i think that yeah talk about bad talk about and like that. Clarification drops this thing off the list entirely i i. I don't think it belonged honestly. Some of the other words that that troy who by the way is an editor at the n._b._c. sports in washington here the put on his top ten list narrative goat momentum swagger and baby saying narrative. I'm not putting that anywhere on my list culture intangibles those are all fine and they're mildly annoying in characters bed characters bad yeah character and culture are sort of lumped into the class thing. They're all talking about the same thing now. I can't stop saying the civic and they sort of hide. What you really mean talk about a linguistic crutch <hes> yes exactly klay. Intangibles is kind of like an old school bad sports word in that. I kind of love how it's just the thing that's i associated with childhood and just the pre game thing on the screen of like or like you'll get. You'll get a check mark mark if you have the intangibles never defined for whatever reason that doesn't bother me. I just find kind of charming thing thing. That makes no sense. I i like goat. I don't mind it's creeping growth in the sports lexicon also because i defined goat for merriam webster as part of my work on my upcoming book so so i got into into mariam yeah simone biles with the bedazzled goat on the back of her that how can you not like that all right <hes> <hes> vincent. Do you want to go off the board. Yeah my i. I don't know if it's certainly not a number one but the one that has annoyed me for a really sort of three years straight. Maybe five i don't know is i want to get rid of analytics. Their justice sticks and the word analytics has is another one of these weasel words that has come to mean whatever people it can refer to a style of play especially in basketball not just in basketball now. Analytics has become like the stand him for like you know. Only strikeouts at home runs and baseball. It's become the stand in for only three pointers in investing ball right it just even in in soccer occur this year. There's been this all more and more and more forward <hes> former player that isn't sort of doesn't necessarily correspond with the beautiful game at stanford it stood in for all of these things things that like <hes> sort of crusty layer observers dislike about the game. It's in some ways become standing for whiteness whenever conversations sations about diversity coaching come up. There's this jalen rose in the new yorker <hes> when he's talking to my colleague isaac johner talked about how analytics has become this weird hurdle for black coaches. It's become a stand in for just people let not liking nerds it. Just is something that could go. Oh away when we talk when we are referring to numbers we they are. They're just statistics and there's a lot of other things that we could use instead of. I don't know but then how do we differentiate between what anyone who's been who's older than twenty-five sort of conceives of as mathematical understanding of sports because it is different from the way that we considered the role of numbers in sports they were digest the bowl and they were simple and they helped sort of define athletes and analytics something much broader. It's sort of a systematic evaluation of of sports. So what what could we use to stand in for it in yeah or maybe i guess maybe an maybe this means that is not a good choice but maybe we could just confine it to the meaning that you just said because if it's just about a different way of using numbers then fine but i don't like it's creep into so many other areas of sports analysis <hes> that sort of span from numbers two styles of play to <hes> <hes> structural and political arrangements <hes>. I don't like that creep. I can sign onto that stephan all right. I'll go next. I'm gonna cheat and go with to the i. I don't really have a nice explanation for like you'd advance. Any just annoys me. <hes> mindset don't like mindset. That's all i'm gonna say all right. The one that i have a longer thought about and this actually found in the replies to the twitter thread ads wasn't my original thought but i endorse it fully this comes from a <hes> twitter user with the handle pittsburgh sport and the word is bomb. Balm is a very long-standing sportswear because back to dem bombs and the brooklyn dodgers chirs. It's kind of a term of endearment but the way that it's used now i would say is exemplified by the conversation that <hes> stephen a smith who venue profiled had with carmelo anthony and talking about why carmelo is not in the league and they were going back and forth about it and then kind of like an after the show sort of interview stevens said there are a lot of bombs and the n._b._a. There's so many bumps in the n._b._a. In fact that it's an injustice that carmelo has not in the league given the size of rosters and given his skill and you know maybe it's true that carmelo oh anthony deserves a roster spot but the way that that term is thrown out by not only like people on twitter but by officially it sanctions media members people who know the game have followed the game know and respect the game that they just like throw it out insults guys who are some of the best athletes in the world and who are very good at basketball and are not in fact bombs <hes> it's dehumanizing and i think there's just like a general strain then of commentary where people will just insults players really freely really and talked about somebody as being quote unquote bad when they are not in fact bad. Maybe they're below average for the n._b._a. But <hes> it's thrown around too loosely. Yeah i don't like bum. I think that stephen as like it's funny that you mentioned him because he's the the chief offender here like he loves to. I mean he used was to just do this thing by just saying a guy's name funny like <hes> he's the t._i. Go split like he would just like a break. Somebody's name up into these these syllables <hes> but yeah i mean i. I realize there's some performance element here. I realized that you know we're not totally seriously that it's it's he would say maybe that it's just in the context of the n._b._a. This guy right not is good but i'll stipulate all that continue. No i think you're i think i like it because it's it's true and i think it re- represents an another another level of fandom to always be mindful that anybody who's literally even keeping up with the back and forth on the right side of the court. Most of the time is an incredible incredible athlete and i think it's fair to keep that in mind as not only fair but maybe a duty to keep that in mind as a fan. I'm going to point out that the first citation in the oxford english dictionary for this sense of bomb worthless or contemptible person a lazy irresponsible person is from the chicago tribune in eighteen eighty two and it's a it's a baseball well chicago tribune instead of being as he should be far above the level of the ball player. The umpire of today today is far below that level and properly belongs in the bomb category. I think i'm glad that you read the definition because i thank the way that it's used and i think the intended use. I don't know if the <hes> if it's meant to be as negative as i think it really is like worthless and contemptible. That's a strong strong and vicious pretty bad all right stephane hess. What do you got not the ones that the the predominate in the list and in the comments on this twitter threat of the sort of bomb variety of the talk about variety sort the things that annoy us and i went with the more sort of thing that is really contemptible that word and worthless and that is the term term student athlete. I think this should be banned and this was for much more practical. Reason good answer. Good answer was was invented by the n._c._a._a. Back in the nineteen fifties it was a way they came up with the term so that they could avoid paying disability payments to players who were injured so you categorize them as students and athletes as opposed to just athletes they found a legal way to get around the terminate obviously caught on as a way to describe athletes and it is the most disingenuous and deleterious word in the sports lexicon. I think great answer done serious harm and damage in a way that perhaps even bam has not and just to give credit where it's due jason murray another another user rhymes with orange student athlete was selected. I did not see it in the in any of the <hes> in some of their applies okay so you're gonna have to trust that. I came up with it on my hand. We trust you. I believe all right. Let's move on to after balls and i wanted to select elect a word slash lexical unit here <hes> randy johnson the lexical unit <hes> that was was i found in their applies and i felt was there <hes> era neha sleigh and that i wanted to elevate it because it is in fact a a phrase that should it'd be championed and not decried and that is calling a running back a bell cow. How could you kevin myers not to not to call you personally. How could you be upset at <hes> people calling running back a bell cow <hes> it the the phrase is referring to the lead cow of a herd having a bell attached to a collar around its neck so that the herd could be located easily. It's very a phrase often used in reference is to fantasy football. Perhaps you could argue that. It's dehumanizing but i prefer to think of it as figurative any any votes but yeah you're on l. camp. I don't have a problem with belco. I haven't even heard it that much but now i i mean the you've sold me the mariam's unabridged dictionary. Mary defines belco as a cow with a bell attached to its neck especially lead cow but then the slang the figurative use is a leader milk cow i was the first person was the first reference to jim brown. It should be but i think it probably predates. Jim brown all right. Let's do our belcastro stephan. What's rebel count the washington post last week. Published the first installment of the series on climate change call all two degrees celsius beyond the limit and increase of two degrees celsius in the average worldwide temperatures since eighteen ninety-five is considered a threshold for catastrophic climate changes changes like retreating ice sheets rising sea levels dine coral reefs the post first piece detailed how hundreds of counties in the united states already have exceeded the two degree mark which means that across america football is being played in stifling heat and humidity has that for a transition. I've read stories this week about high schools proudly describing the ice he's tubs they keep on hand to treat possible heat stroke and other stories about schools heroically monitoring the heat index which measures temperature and humidity and the wet the ball with globe temperature which adds in wind speed and solar radiation in texas it can take a fahrenheit temperature of one hundred degrees to force coaches to move football practiced practiced early morning or evening or indoors tennessee state policy bans practice when the heat index goes above one hundred four degrees oklahoma's heap policy restricts the amount of preseason football practice to five hours every twenty four hours which still seems like a lot of football practice in the heat last friday. The coach of putnam city high school in oklahoma city tweeted in response to the heat advisory. We will practice from one thirty to three tomorrow. Just one practice no doubleday. No meetings one thirty to three o'clock also does not seem like the optimal time to practice during a heat advisory but football must go on in huntsville alabama emma w. a. y. Channel thirty one visited practice at james clemens high school last week. The football players still took the field in full pads even with the heat index at about one hundred and seven degrees but coaches and trainers were all around to make sure they were keeping their players safe. The station reported. This is a full padded practice on the hottest day of the year so it's a needed day but it's definitely one. We gotta make sure we're taking care of our players. Head coach wade waldrop oil drips said while coach waldrop and his staff made sure players got extra water breaks and generously allowed them to take off their helmets between drills one thing they apparently didn't do was check the alabama high school athletic association safety guidelines when the heat index exceeds one hundred three players are supposed post where only helmets not full pads and practice for a maximum of one hour in north florida spruce creek high and flagler palm coast high scrimmaged earlier this month when the heat index was one hundred and five one player staggered off the field and with an internal body temperature of almost one hundred and three was dumped in one of those ice tubs which probably saved his life. That boy was lucky. After a football player died of heatstroke in two thousand seventeen the florida athletic association strongly only recommended but did not mandate that schools have cooling tubs with water and ice on hand a fourteen year old boy did die during conditioning drills in in high heat in florida in june every high school football coach should be terrified that one of his players is going to drop dead from heat stroke so i was relieved to read a story being the gainesville times in georgia that quoted a couple of coaches east hall coach michael perry and west hall coach crofton montgomery who said it's too fucking hot to play football in the summer. They didn't say to fucking hot in the story but they did say that. Practice shouldn't start until august. I and games shouldn't start until after labor day what i'm about to suggest would be heretical to football coaches but i'd say start practicing september games in october of course by the middle of the century football states like florida and texas exists projected have up to five months of days with a heat index above one hundred if children's football insists on remaining a summer and fall sport. It insists on remaining at all. Maybe it won't be sub. Concussive blows that kills it. Maybe it'll be the weather josh. What's your bell cow. The world's best men's tennis player at least at this moment is danneal medvedev going into last week. The twenty-three-year-old russian had made two consecutive tournament finals here in washington d._c. And then in montreal then this past week in cincinnati he we used huge first and second serves and really solid for hands back ends to beat world number-one electric in the semi finals and divvied viewed goffin in the final to win the biggest title of his career and move up to a career-high number five in the world behind only jovic rafael nidal roger federer and dominic team stephens hero. The eighth ranked stefanos citybus. Thank you is owen foreign his career against gets medvedev seats apostol ben rothenberg last week than medvedev plays sloppy adding. It's good sloppy. He can make you miss without your understanding how you just missed you. Miss shots that you don't mess. That's deep kind of. I watched medvedev in d._c. So i have a good sense of how well the dude is playing but i it didn't know before i saw a pretty oblique tweet on sunday. Is that three years ago medvedev was defaulted from a match on the second tier challenger tour. You're in a match which was played on clay and savannah georgia medvedev. Who was then ranked number. Two hundred sixty in the world was playing donald young young as a black american can player in the first at the chair umpire. A black woman in sandy franch went down to the court to check the ball mark on shot medvedev hit. There was close to the sideline. She called the ball out giving young the point which led medvedev mark. I know that you are friends. I am sure about it. After the game was over french called over tournament supervisor advisor medvedev was quickly defaulted for what the united states tennis association later referred to as questioning the impartiality of the umpire based on her race. There is unfortunately precedent for that incident in two thousand one. Australian lleyton hewitt claimed that a black line judge at the u._s. Open was calling foot-faults on him to to favor hewitt's black opponent american james blake. I've only been foot-faulted of one end. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Mate hugh had said look at him. I and you will tell me what the similarity is. Get him off. The court. Look at what he's done. Hewitt was not penalized during a match or afterwards the u._s. Us open tournament director brian earley who you may remember as the guy who came on the court during last year's yes open final when serena williams demanded to speak to the terminent director during her her conflict with sharon player carlos ramos early ruled that there was no violation of quote grand slam code of conduct and that quote the evidence events was inconclusive as to the intent of mr hewitt's remarks to the chair umpire q._a. for his part said i come from a multicultural country. I'm not racial any way at all. Though hewitt didn't get sanctioned. John mcenroe called his on-court statement unforgivable. It has indeed followed hewitt for his whole career areo still hear people mention it when hewitt's name comes up medvedev's words have gotten less attention because they came in a minor league event probably also because he wasn't yet well known when it happened as far as i know medvedev has never commented on this <hes> the incident did get brought up in two thousand seventeen when at wimbledon medvedev eh opened his wallet and started throwing coins at the base of the umpire's chair to make a not so subtle point about the empires bias alleged bias towards his opponent it in that case. He apologized for quote doing a bad thing in conclusion u._s._a. Open starts next week to meal medvedev. Have guys going to start getting more attention. We'll see what happens. I guess that is our show for today. Our our producer. This week is ethan brooks filling in for melissa kaplan special. Thanks daniel hewitt for production. Help this week and benson cunningham. 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Astros Homer 5 Times, Wild Ending To MNF, Previewing Texans vs Browns, Tyler Loves The White Women, One Hit Wonders

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Astros Homer 5 Times, Wild Ending To MNF, Previewing Texans vs Browns, Tyler Loves The White Women, One Hit Wonders

"I got shot sauce. Eight avail quarterbacks. Time french sean. Very this is the sean salisbury show. Here's the one to. This was driven deep to left field. That could be series. I it off the foot. Saad second decker in left field and the astros lead nine. Nothing on jose series first major league home run a one and siri drives this one to left-center fairly deep going back. His peter's looking up see you later. Jose series with his second big league homerun tonight. And the astros lead grossed fifteen to one welcome in i can tell you this asset good fifteen runs yeah Alexis got nothing on siri jokes. Hey siri show me. Oh evan. Gattis tweeted series showing. Oh wait nevermind already. Seldom a couple of series saw out now. Siri sorry I was trying to find of it. she didn't homer twice last night at north stuff in people's homes. That are listening right now and right. Yeah because i've sure what this rain they got up about five twenty. Been up since three thirty. My dogs be both brought a little wind. Picking chairs up trash cans blown over yet. But we're here all of us in the studio heavy. mfn mnt today is Interclub wednesday now. Is it wednesday tuesday man but basically that's right so it's too tuesday siri trashed tuesday to that's right. It is trash tuesday with the music. The worst music ever gets captain of the bad weather bad weather. Hope people are safe out there. If you are on the road to work your travel lanes people there you go. There was one in the middle. You're street yes. There was so great to be here. i'm up because i'm waiting for covers to combine on built in his outdoor kitchen. Got these big four huge. Tv's out malinowski. Got everything mounted ready to roll was actually spent the whole week. It saturday sunny out there cold goal. I'm telling dude. I'm a mexican beer fanatic. I know it's a little early to be talking about mexican beer but i am. It's not. I gotta dosekun here. I gotta bedell of there. I a pacifico there at sitting out there in the great weather doing it but then the weather comes and i'm out there okay. I don't have all the covers award but they're not in so i'm out there. Like towels and sheets and potato chip clippers laid off. But everything's good. Glad to be your hope. Everybody's well and safe and we'll have a lot of fun today. Try to add some light to your day. It didn't take long for you if you were worried about the astros Jumped out what wasn't like nine enough in the third. Yeah it was. When i was about done together. I'm not gonna lie to houston as well. I wouldn't lie out at nine. Nothing i went to bed to the nine. Nothing was i went to bed slipped through most of the storm by the time i got nine nothing. It was background music. It was the f. Just getting Yes it was nine nothing after three nine one after three and a half was nine one. I completely switch over to monday night. Football I didn't have to switch over because that was on. I had it. And i got my raider hat on as a raider guy told you that went. I picked out so did i. I didn't bet them You can hear the wind and we've got double pane windows. There's times when you hear noise. You're saying get louder the nato somewhere nearby at a dude yeah it's crazy anybody's down in galveston area. Listen if you saw the shark nato let us now. Tell you there tyler. You don't know but it'll happen. Shark data. but yeah the raiders. What a game. First of all derek carr I think he wants to keep his job. It looked like at four plus watched for plus last night and the ending of the game. That baltimore goes down. kick a field goal. Tucker they come back and then they pump a fifty five yard or through the uprights to get it to overtime overtime. This team goes in the other team. Comes out the raiders. Come down think they got a game. One right was the was it the ball on the one or was that the regular. I'm sitting here. I'm losing my mind now. The ball was on the. Let's see i ray. Let's see before the game with no. Oh yeah the before they they kicked field goals and then daniel carson nailed a fifty five yard or so and then at a car hit edwards. Got down to the golan remember thought. He scored everybody celebrating and he was stopped at the one yard line. So they had to redo it. Everybody's tripping and get derek carr for not remember kit a quarterback sneak of the statute but hit a quarterback sneak then through and compete complete pass and the false penalty was called the next play. He tried to throw a willie steed. The ball hits hands. Receiver bounces off and gets picked so that was gone. Then the ravens drive next and nassib sacks and forces a fumble from lamar jackson and then they line up. The raiders are going to kick a field goal but the unit was ready on the quick change turnover. So then take it to today. Cape italy without any timeouts to call so then car drops. Back at those touchdown passes agents. That's how that game went last night's decent. Yeah they're not all our last night they like throw ninety. Nineteen targets phenomenal player. Did he was the most yeah. It'll be kelsey because it's kelsey cut four million balls last year in that offense. He's going to catch more. Just because they're they're they're better but Waller skill set. You know one point. In time. I think as well. Isn't he going through an addiction issue. I think the point in his life waller had an addiction issue. Honestly if you look it up. I think is pretty impressive. I know late to the lakers. Yeah if i'm not mistaken. I thought waller there was an addiction of some kind. But he's turned his career around and he was suspended for violating the league's substance abuse policy. I believe there's a story about his that he and it's pretty fascinating about his was an addiction that he you know that addiction they get through that saved him and now here. He is playing great football and and You are correct found fox story. Yeah there you go and noon for the background would be a raider guy. I don't remember what he was addicted to. But if it was painkillers or other drugs. But i know there was an addiction problem. He's turned it around got himself clean and his plan lights out football and a big reason why they want to lessen i'll give derek carr alcohol and opioid okay. There you go. I didn't know if it was alcohol. But i knew that it was. I thought it was a the painkiller which is a rampant problem. Is you know from the percocet. And all those things that go on and And but a great story to tell because right now there as far as an explosive pass catcher outside of kelsey. And the truth is while chelsea's the better player waller's more explosive player. I mean with speed. And he's a what is he like six six. Yeah just a little hoops background to. If i'm not mistake play little hoop somewhere. It was it was always a football guy. I do know the addiction thing. The addiction thing was a problem for him and he's overcome that and it was a big time but the while there wasn't a lot of defense played some defense in clutch situations like the nassib sack. It was really impressive. White football okay. I guess i'm getting the point now. Where every single tied into six six maumee yet. I play basketball one. That's there's there's there's one right now. Our recently that was they didn't play any football in college at somebody's chasing too bad there they'd been chasing the end of their practice squad. I read that the preseason kind migraine off season. Yeah and now we got in watching this notre dame tight end boise good bell. There is a phenomenal football so he may be an the next grade one. We're obviously looking for pitch to be a guy. Let's say turn him into an outside wide receiver and that may be mismatch problem. For a lot of wide receivers he'd lined up a lot outside. Atlanta but waller was spectacular. It was a fund monday night. Football game and a Quite frankly the. I didn't know what it was gonna be like to start with the running game for baltimore. Run the ball still the thirty four for one eighty nine five point six per carrion two touchdowns and truth is good as lamar is eighty six yards event. And you know that's always going to be a. He'll probably he'll well. I'll guarantee you. He'll eat rushing this year without. Jk dobbins with. Tim hurt all year. Is that and lamar made some good throws derek carr made a bunch of good throws in a jacobs. They didn't run the ball. He was like middle of the day was a notch questionable starter. Yeah and it was an illness. But it wasn't covert so he finally touchdowns only ten carries for thirty four and he is a monster but for them to survive like they did or they knew they had to throw or was at night when they were throwing a ton and in carthage fifty plus times last night he six times two guys over the weekend. I think it is the second one. I don't think berle get to fifty throws even might have brady and i did. And it's the aberration. Berlin through twenty seven towels. Borough somebody's cousins is a forty nine lost the winner. But there's a couple high. Oh herbert through almost fifty times and they want as well herber through forty seven right the winner though brady all those other guys. You mentioned loss loss loss cousins forty-nine prescott alan lawrence through fifty plus golf through one right then brady threw fifty and one brand of depressed last night car through fifty. Rarely do fifty throwers win. Now brady uses. It is an extension of the run. The car had a monster game with all the great football guys. Think about it. I i was going through this last night. We'll take it. We'll come back and talk about it. It's going through it last night on a show with somebody. I thought you start to roll through like in the nfc west garoppolo had if you looked at garoppolos numbers and didn't say will. The controversies gone on with jimmy. And they're going to play some. You'd say if that was if that was russell wilson you'd say hell of a game i'll have again through for over three hundred complete averaged seventeen of twenty five average twelve yards attack twelve point six percent think about his game russell. Wilson's game matthew stafford's game at kyle game all in the same division all one and the worst performance was a three hundred yard performance and twelve point two yards per attempt and that was garoppolo. Yeah because they only had one touch slack and yeah and then you think exactly you look around the league. Oh ho home car comes out and finishes the first week of the nfl by tossing it over time and throws for four hundred plus and they win unbelie by. We got a lot to discuss today. And we'll have some fun astros with a fifth. What fifteen to one idea if you made it all the us. Seven o'clock go in and ask siri. How syria did sports talk. 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Yes current stuff now as tyler like say. Give me all the white women. He's definitely taylor swift fan. How you bring me the white women police. You're all about the white women white women at so you say where the white women be. That's what you want to know. Amen it yeah right now. they've been. I'll be inside though you talk nonstop decide you wanna protect. You wanna protect all the ladies so you come out later. It's obviously i'm just curious. I guess i'm just curious. Du you afraid of the sisters might be too much drug main. Just can't handle it no not at all. It's just not my thing. It is what you wouldn't be able to survive it. Could you handle can you not. I could survive autumn. I i could as far as going out with the latina. I've done it before i done spicy for. You are just not great experience. Yeah okay so you want to know where the white women or why women that tyler if you're white and you're for a heavy on air if you're looking for a guy talks on the radio and says dump stuff. Do you think that heavy t do you picture him with one. Hundred and three pound like Really thin gal He goes bigger. Goes home somewhere on twitter. Where where do you think he is. I don't know that. I don't know either tyler thick or lack of thickness somewhere in the middle so a little bones little meat on your balls but you don't want the either want the full bone in by with some fat or out. You don't want that. I mean. I'm more about personality anyway. So full of crap i. Oh i'm a nice person. Nobody said you're not nice. Okay so if i bring you a mullion that's a slump buster. But she's nice as hell. You're gonna you you love her. Slump busters tyler here to love. They really is. He's beta love is now what you just. 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And where the white women at tyler's motto facts only show here. This is a factually show. Heavy t. I the idea that lasts today. So your your twitter. You're not thin but you're not sick. You like a little bit you you don't you don't need one where you come up giving little tap and it come back and hit you. Four times dangerously skinny. I'm getting you cheeseburger. I'm sorry got to put some meat on your bones. Oh you don't want to give a little tap and all of a sudden you're hitting their pelvic bone. you need a little more concerning lee scary but that's guinness. Yeah i hear you. Maybe a little feisty maybe too much for either desisti candidate says he can't handle any. That's i mean he can't handle much. It's a reason why he's looking for them on the air. You'd probably like a really milk. Graduation really milky white lady. To right like i hadn't seen sun about six about sixteen years. That would be your style. They'd almost see through fluorescent. What does that does it. 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They're legit like updates and talking about doppler radar update the real pro stuff. Go to ktar h. Just say it was raised on the drive in. Be careful. doppler says it's gonna rain more today. Be careful twin. That's what we got here. Matt thomas on from seven to four in the morning i had to work astros for him last night. I strike warrior hashtag. Where did do sometimes. I wanna run not a warrior hero. He sat in a chair. Praised the bald. He sat in a chair and talked. That's right matt. Thomas i said it bring it on. Let's fight to he's asleep. Tell me stars. Only seven to four was just a country club night from at tom. Basically what you're saying just sitting there talking anything unbelievable. So yeah you just roll. We just rolled through eight different services and tyler. I mean before you got out of your mouth. Oh that's where you buy clothes or you don't want to buy their. They don't feel we need to be quiz. Dumb yeah stumping. I thought i was the wealthy useless. Tell me what you tell me what this company does right. I'll ask one more for you before we go to break. Tell me honestly. I mean how deeply you've grinder. I know what it is. I'm not okay okay. If you were audit what's the swipe left main interest interested not interesting so long. I've been on light bright means you're interested in correctly all right. So how many guys have you swiped right with zero not. There's anything wrong with. I'm just curious absolutely zero. So are you into white men though if you were going to be used as a kind of like a year for the ladies well ladies only man so you know. You're not going latino. Or what are your fellow from the narrow strait. Aided he is he's on fire this morning. he's he's doing it on fire this morning. Last time you logged onto Honeybee or not how but said no. What's the hinge last time. You were unhinged. What was it last night. You did any night zone there. I was more focused on. The games was on that one for a brief period. Remember how that one works was. You're not swiping right. No there's just like a like button hit it similar because the like buttons on the road. Anybody can message like it's not up to the you mentioned. I don't know so that's the thing with bumble is. The check has to be the first one to message you. What is kind of interesting so with hans. Anybody can do it. So they they. That's find true love. Oh yeah there you you fall in love on hinge right. Yeah okay. Do you realize that. I mean the sincere. It's not like just a for radio. Schtick i i've never in my life looked at are logged onto a dating site in my life. I never thought i would do it. her pride about twenty fifteen for low. Bit before when you're singled back. Yeah and then. I did after i broke up with a girl for a minute off of it. All right well day break up then. I really got on it the second time. Just you know. I would imagine. They're print money at those sites right. God i gotta be printing money all right. 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You'll never get a person to say a bad thing about clayton so nice tremendous human being a good football coach for him. I think i do. I don't mean that. Disrespectfully just never been able to leave protocol. Yeah he'll be fine. Hell i'm waiting for nick. Sabin to happen. Come on and be like panel and be ready and doesn't just ball hog all the great coach who've been fine fat he. He went to u. of h. E. comes you've h from a good football coach memphis or a long time to. His father was a hell of an offensive line coach In the football you know. And so i Kim health i believe is is is his name. His dad was a. It's his dad. Kim helton kim. I've lost my mind here. Look it up my rank him there you go so you got football. His blood and i think his brother he was coach. You've you've yeah. He's ninety three ninety. Nine and i think he. I think he was a line coach. Either side of it. A book coats the big fellas at some point time. If i'm not mistaken off his line coach of florida office coordinator miami. The bucks oilers had been around awhile and so clay. Se gets fire and it happened early. I know people speculate. Urban dante williams is gonna take over that job who's great recruiter and the players respond to him at sc. For now the interim he will not keep. The job doesn't matter what goes on. 'cause they're scheduled s he's got two more suppose tough games now stanford wasn't supposed to be as the stanford of the past that's given fits. They've got ucla late. And i've got notre dame and other than that. They don't play organ washington and it sucks. Anyway i really thought this is going to be your. they did. Yeah they really could now. Is there another loss how they're always good for arizona state or one of those teams sneaking up and giving them a game right. I mean that's just it. But they got that with stanford. Somebody called me over the weekend buddy to china. Got this come to couple. Gosh i bet this. I said let me tell you. Don't bet this game by fourteen points even at home. You're probably making a mistake. Stanford's always physical. David shaw understands how to play them. We are a finesse team. We don't know how to close games out and put your foot on people's throats against good teams and stanford played poorly the week before david. Shaw's good coach got it. I said if i was year wouldn't bet sc. I'm not and i'll be damned now. They beat they got beat up. Yeah and so. And that's the problem. The physicality at this program see the program wants to be fiscal. Why is that program. I mean i know that it's in your history people in la but why is it. Where are they so gung ho about. All we have to be a physical brain like. Why can't you be physical. Today's off there so turned off any read about the air raid. You'll realize the air raid. Offense is basically what runs college football. It'll be physical in the arid. The kansas city chiefs are pretty physical. Yeah i mean you could. We'll look at alabama alabama's is physical as anybody in a country thought forty times which don't understand the hesitancy offense because we don't line up in the i ever they don't up. We established run. It's all throw throw throw throw and when you run into a physical i'm just telling you fin- i'm fine with this i just i just don't understand the whole like every every. I read something about usc. All the alums only they only want old style. Football my dad's that's an old school arrogance. Because we lined up around student body right and dominated with marcus allen. Oj simpson mike garrett. Charles white that group and guess what reggie bush. Those guys aren't on this team just yet and so the priorities of listen. I'm all about throw shoot. I wanna throw it. But i also know this got to run it. Here's the problem you get inside the red zone. It's third one old. Usa didn't matter what you did. We run it. We're going to stop you. The problem is constant. Spread when you practice like that. It's hard to turn on the physicality when you run into stanford or michigan right. We're alabama when it gets too serious. Listen i said it. I said listen finesse. Stuff will come. But i can't be a finesse team. Then all of a sudden say hey this week. He has wanted to be physical. But i can have a great quarterback with great listen. You're recruiting in sc man. That's been the i was reading. Says reading bruce feldman stuff last night with the his list of names from people that he's heard that will be on their list and he talked about mario cristobal number. One eight hundred. Because he's been stealing all the recruits from california and they play physical. Here's my first priorities. And i didn't see bruce's i see everybody speculate. You're gonna hear. Luke fickle the athletic director hired him at cincinnati. He's now our athletic director casinos reading that what. He's on the list that feldman hat but he said the fickle has been very choosy about where he wants to go and he would prefer to stay in the mid is time quite sure of it. I'm quite sure but you know how much they have a connection. He'd menges ohio state notre dame. Those jobs aren't coming open. And if brian kelly has already said when he leaves freemen's getting the job. Yeah the the defensive coordinator. He's he's made that point extremely clear so now that can change. but that's the case. And who says other gig. He said how stace to hire steinbrenner a date. Maybe he's about the. I don't know what the age is between him and they can't bear barely now. Forty yes so. He's not going anywhere anytime soon unless he left for. Yeah so i understand why look tickled wanna now. Maybe if jim harbaugh some happens in michigan and jim doesn't wait now. They want fickle. But i don't know bottom line is when there is a relationship at least if can't far at least make the call you're not gonna you're not gonna turn down the call three a half million in cincinnati right. It's offering five at listen. Listen now five in the mid four three and a half in the mid west probably about five and a west coast. Wouldn't you rather live in california. The high as much as cincinnati's top tintin let's face facts. it's cincinnati did not get the same recruits. He'll have a better chance to the national title if he's air but you're gonna hear these names. I love crystal ball for the very reasons that i stated one is in your right alumni. I listen i. We got a lot of arrogance in our school in our london. We just do. We think that we can still lineup. With bruce bruce matthews and five stud. I ran off. Its picks and throw it fifteen times run at fifty and beach. You and others games you can. When you're playing weaver state. yeah okay. In a non conference game utah stanford. They're just as physical as you. Now i mean th and recruiting one is you cannot let like. Pete didn't but guys before him. Did jon robinson didn't you can't let the best players within one hundred square miles. Leave that statement. Leave your school then. Go to oregon and alabama clemson in texas. And you gotta keep them there. That's one too is i want. Listen i want a guy who can rip it around the lottery. You kidding me i both. And that's the great thing about alabama clemson. Guess what you can have. Boom can have both you damn right you. There's about a dozen schools in this country that you can have both you can have both at. You should have both texas texas. A m's proven you can have both. Now they're trying to find the quarterback but we know they'll they'll be physical and the way their quarterbacks me out for a while. cnn that's that's tough for you. look at michigan. Michigan's physical is problem on problem. They haven't been able to throw the ball. They can drop it in the ocean standing in a boat right now. I mean in their past right and so there's that ohio state gives you both on offense. The problem is they're getting to the point. Where just becau- here's what people are old school. Usc alum gotta get. We'll go to break. And i'll come back discussable. Old school alum at usc gotta get over this. Well when you line up in the gun. You can't run the ball bull crap you can't it's a mind set up front and how you practice it. Physical first nasty. I gotta have mean nasty guys. And i gotta keep recruits in la. Then the finesse is gonna come by getting the best. Look human and go through five. Quarterbacks now slow. This is a good player. Five quarterbacks in the last two years have left and gone to schools outside guys. right isn't brush cucamonga. cj strahl guy at clemson all. They're all should. Jay is should be going from southern california to the east coast to play football right especially when he's right there and you've recruitment seen him every frigging friday night. Yeah sportstalk seven. Ninety wooden merciless. You're listening to sean salisbury. Real texans talk on sports. Talk seven nine hundred this trick. Yeah terrible terrible music. Tuesday tyler throwing at us. But that's only do on tuesdays on tuesday up And we're talking as c. and alumni needing to get out of there. Yeah you gotta be. You know you gotta be physical and only physical or you can't win far from the truth so far from the truth. It's ridiculous but i am. I am master. I can tell you a big. The two biggest reasons we haven't been been dominant. Is we have not when you practice finesse. It's hard to turn it on in a game. That's more physical than you and if you can't take punches and have a hard time delivering them. It's one thing. listen. I'm very complimentary. Mama modern but i'm critical to so i can sit here and tell you. One is the the fiscal they get pushed around. In the line of scrimmage both ways when we were winning titles with pete carroll john robinson their pete carroll's team had incredible finesse players. But when we meet the lineup handed to lendl white three or four times in a row six times ever do it yet. They'd wear you out on the offensive line and defensive front seven run around and beat the dog crap out of you and we had secondary that. Come up and greets you pull models in the mark carriers and the tim. Mcdonald's of the past. We've had i mean players there that did you even if you beat us. When you came out of a game you've been in one yeah stanford looked when they came out of this game and beat us this past weekend. I would imagine some of them said man alive. I don't even need to go get treatment the next day and that's not a good thing. Okay so physical and cristobal topless the questions with all those facilities all that money or why would he leave exactly now. I know the the but don't they get just as much money poured into the program basically at this point with with the facilities. maybe more. and we're a. That's a lot of money. I get it. Also it's the southern cal. It's a blue blood powerhouse program so when you think about five six schools in the country over the course of time that you say it is a that programs one that people when you say. Usc and but there's no longer than when you walk down the tunnel. Here's my question. Does this generation of player view organs that school. Yes more than they do us which is crazy. It's crazy thing about because oregon in like my lifetime has been in my prime college football lifetime. It's been great. And i view them as one of those type of programs. Let me tell you how concerning it is. There's a seventeen year old kid in high school right now in los angeles at one of these great schools that knows more about oregon uniforms than he does about marcus allen they're great they're great at creating and marketing themselves turning themselves into a power rights. Not just the uniforms the truth that they know more about if i said who's markelle sound or or what what. What what you know. More about the uniforms at oregon or marcus allen heisman trophy season. And that's not. That's not good now reggie. Bush is still on the cusp. Because everybody knows bush if he wasn't there's about we're about four years away another college class four years some seventh-grader who reggie bush. Now they get my point so but they they they know who the hell trevor lawrence right. I know bryce young is young committed. Seo and now. I'm thinking we're gonna alabama. Those are the things that can happen. You gotta keep them before he got there. The same thing was happening. The kid who went to modern day high school was playing. Wide receiver oregon. The kid who played tight end is going to university of washington. The guy who decided he wanted to play arizona state or the big one decided. You know what that tax. I like texas. Who nick saban alabama. Oh man florida state sounds fun to me. It's got to be the other way round for it. Sounds arrogant but it's true. Sc should be rolling into florida. Saint mike williams. You come here going. That's just the way it works. But we're not gonna think that scott changed and that's exactly why they jumped out. They're gonna play this season out a long list. Fickle dan mullen hugh freeze james. Franklin matt campbell. Remember all the buyouts that are going to be part of the chris. Peterson's dame's gonna come up. You're going to have assistance. I'm brian cabell. Would be an intriguing name for me. i'm taking some other assistance around people love. Your name will come up jeff. Fisher's name is gonna come up change. Franklin by at penn state would be four million has nothing to. Us they'll write. That is as as tim. I really buyouts are nothing. They're paying klay hilton ten million dollars not coach his botts ten million. And i'm telling you right now that it do installments but they could write the check. The fact that usc has a ten million dollar buyout on clay. Helton and penn. State's got a four million on james. Franklin tells you everything you need to know. He's and and the fact that the clay hilton protected you protective you put out on a guy that quite frankly. It's not exactly like people were standing in line to steal him from zebra. And why would you. There's a few programs you just don't leave that job for to go maybe to the nfl. But you're not leaving. Usc in their prime to go to ohio state. You're just not you are leaving. Cincinnati go to usc. You may even leave certain other school but in their prime when you talk about it. You're not leaving. Us to go. Coach at penn state. You're not leaving. Usc to go coach at iowa. Not saying they're not ever lebeau. Usc like you said for the nfl or from what. What alabama clemson. Maybe yeah texas because taxes was still told you. I've talked to three offensive coordinators a handful of years ago one two three out of seeping giant. That's way they finished one for all three guys choices. I mean there's one. Well maybe this team but texas and they all loved. Sc and one of them was a guy who coached conference. Yeah so i'll take texas and southern cal because you know money recruiting base. You're going to get players. And people love los angeles the media coverage in and people love texas. That's austin so s he's got to get back to being physical but this caught up in this crap of our alumni thinking that we're arrogant enough. Think we gotta be run it fifty times no what we gotta do is have a mindset that you wear people out with necessary. Have a great quarterback that dominated can bail you out but in the process if we need to run a ten times in a row to win a game you can't they can't right now. Now at certain teams they can but people that are on their equal now. And i don't mean this disrespectful at all it's like for texas or there's no way no way we should be going into a game and thinking oh arizona state's got a chance against us now. They beat rt. I mean they're athletes should be like a house day in alabama going into every game thanking play. Our best we win. And you're and you're pushing for the final four every night every year. What's the one thing. Oklahoma's lacked physical defense right now and that's kept them from winning the national time. Everything else has been phenomenal. If you're not physical in this day 'cause we talk about all the finesse spread it out. There are spread out the tampa. Bay buccaneers spread out. You know what they are. Though they kick your ass at the land scrimmage. And if we don't do that we're not gonna win. You better get a guy who knows how to do it and keep people at home. And if you don't keep the best quarterback in the country in california from walking up the state organ or leaving the state walking up the coast of oregon or had been coached. Nick sabin now sports. Talk seven ninety this doug ali. Here's what's trending from the iheart. Sports network presented by jack in the box. The astros exploded for fifteen runs to crush the rangers in arlington tax. Starting defensive tackle vincent taylor. We'll miss six to eight weeks as he will undergo ankle surgery. Receiver anthony miller expected to make his debut for used it and they take on the browns sunday monday night. Football the raiders. Rally to stun the ravens in overtime. I'm rhonda moss one in six kids. Could face hunger due to the corona virus this september. Visit your local jack. 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So you know getting coaches and what you don't want there can be an i. I started to think teams that that things have changed in college. Football man they. They have changed immensely from the air. And that's then that's a problem at my school my moderate se and it's a problem texas. It's a problem at florida state. It's a problem at miami toe you. It's become problem michigan. Telling you michigan michigan's one one national title in. It's a problem and a lot of schools. There's a lot of schools. I have elevated view of themselves when realistically there's only in the last ten years there's only been really only been to schools that have been like a handful of programs with schools. That have been around. The i mean. Oklahoma deserved amish. Lsu championship but for the most part bama clemson oklahoma nine win team. Most saying the truth is if you win it if you win nine games a year it's great sees at lsu now but that's you get beat by like alabama or arrival. You'll get fired right and to me. i mean. sometimes it gets a little silly and even at times. You've got to be realistic about what your program is. Historically and then you've got evaluated seized by the seaside see notre dame's been in the final four feet just know dame hasn't been able to close out. They've lost a lot logic. Games getting close to big games to me so much there just name value. That's where they get their right so they're even kind of in it too. Although brian kelly think about this brian kelly close to being breaking newt rotten eggs. Newt rock these records the all time leading cozy notre dame. Yes which is fastened. Bryant's done a good job. But notre dame still not the notre dame that when you walk into when you walk into southbound asked toledo. The intimidation factor. There's no fag me when you play them school and i played them like. We've seen a little bit schools when they play them. I i'd go in. I'm gonna to we're gonna kick their. Let's just call it real and this is me talking about my program at the top of this list as they are going to be in a coaching. Search your name speculated about i would imagine our ad probably has ten in mind and before you know down to five and by the time the season ends they'll be about three. They may interview eight of them. But there'll be three that they're like that's my target and would we want to pay to get him out. And could you convinced. Dan mullen deliever mario cristobal or is there some name. You're saying a frigging love this guy. He's confident that the has i can tell you. This did even before this. Why they have a list that list while clay and then he's got a real data analyst last summer before the season started. Yeah okay okay. If this doesn't work. And i and klay helped like i said mike are as the utmost respect for Who doesn't but it's it's a different job than texas coaches have found that out recently so and we're hoping it works for sark. Here's the deal. I'll start with my university fight on the private school. There's a part of us that lives in the past. And i get it. That's what alumni doing we should. Because you're used to winning. And i mean not just winning but dominating and now we still got great players but the problem is the pieces are better than the whole puzzle that the some isn't as good as the parts. And if you can't and it starts with. That's what nick same best recruiter in the world. And then he coaches his coaches. And if you don't coach them right. The coach gets the coaches out. There's a buy-in across a five star guy the third guy and you even hit that. I'm not sure. I wanna play here than see. How can i help you. Pack replace with the next guy. And i know there's an arrogance about it but oh well they've earned it. And that's the way the trojans used to feel honest to god they did now and in texas and the you but we. We flashed victory. Sign right now when you walter. It's in the other schools looking at you like noga. And like i mean. I would feel like for me as a texas tech fan if they lined up against usc. As bad as i feel about texas tech the game with them why wouldn't it stanford putrid last week and physically manhandled us. I've seen it happened too many times. That can happen once every three years. Jail every four years of that. It can't happen once or twice a year nine wins. Se losing either ucla into notre dame. Both you can't keep the job here you just can't i hate. I don't actually guys advisors texas. They're flashing hook him hook. 'em scares nobody right now. Now i'm holding. The hook is doing the horns down and dealing with that and so when you roll in. We shouldn't be a mess. Still this day was the dumbest thing. You're not Yeah he's got hooked him down is already got. I don't know why people have gotten like as a kid growing up if you didn't like texas that's what you do and it's become a sensitive topic. Were babies at baby like. Oh my god you can't do. The horns dow up personal gras field. And you're offending somebody. Well that's society now we've let it creep into sports. If you smile at a guys you walk by and look down at him. There's nothing offensive or wrong. We're doing the horns down. Yeah anal- listen kind of like my trojans societies soc- society's been softened the ucla when we play them they put dollar bills in between their fingers and do the fight on meaning because the money and all that rich private school were kicking your ass carpet. A nicer part of town there in the great part of town. But we're the private school with a lot and they're not yet houses. You had the houses surrounding usc the houses surrounding usc at our school. And i'm sure they do there. But our campus like you'll walk down fraternity sorority row. And if you see a chevy love pickup truck like by laugh they wanna tow it because they think it's out of place that four door beamers and stuff that i could never for you know. Like oh and then they go home to their huntington beach. Jared in their newport beach bread on the weekends and stuff. It's just kind of instead private school with money right. I mean that's how other school the pac twelve or pac. Ten at that time will that's how they do to dig it to trojans i understand it until you fight back with toughness that they're getting the best of us at times not all the time but went planning but they do it at the thing that they're not keeping their players quinn you or southlake carroll somebody else they're gonna play it. How states at alcohol backs that have been in this state. Whether it may go back to go back to manziel you go back to robert griffin you. Go back to a mere debris. Nick foles all these guys that get out of there. You know obviously manziel in griffin played at tech schools but like those kind of talents. The ones fine like man's going there is fine. But like if you're texas how they've whiffed all these that's that's been the big despite all the bad coaches and everything. Texas biggest issue for years haven't had the they haven't gotten a quarterback. That's that's good. I mean they've had some guys that are capable could be indecent. The outside of cole mccoy. It's like what are they done. I look at this state. And i think i go out on friday nights and watching the kid that's going to texas am watched him play last week against my guy. Maybe great quarterback duel last week. He's from ridgeline and he's he's a good player. Ben moves around. There's a football moxie about him and my guys just a sophomore more one of and he is he. He's a guy that everybody for. Lsu everybody's recruiting yet. The some having often scholarships and couple of them are in the state of texas michael. I know it's just turned sixteen. I mean you some of these kids. And i'm not saying but some of these kids like what you fifteenth to the party. Why should i turn around. And say you're the at and here's i guess that validates this you could've done that if you're texas and sc in florida state. Miami fifteen years ago years ago. The problem is now. These kids like below oregon came to me. I and they got speed looking all these uniforms. So i'm moving there and you're not good enough for me to jump into the fray late and think that i'm just gonna flip because well you decide unless you're a legacy in your dad played there now. It's like screw that. I'll go play alabama man. I'll kick your ass. That's or oklahoma. Wanted me from the the first time. They saw him as a sophomore. Well then i'm gonna go be lincoln. Riley is next star quarterback the best pass rusher at alabama. You get my point area and so you get all this use stuff. The you don't scare anybody ray. Loosen clay and redone play. Michael urbanites the same thing here. Bruce massey's whether early two thousand. Yeah bruce matthews. Marcus allen ronnie. Lott they plan for us right now and we john robertson john mccain coach jimmy johnson at the u. and the swagger getting off vinny testaverde's all those guys that would you play university of miami or saying you look at university of miami right now when you play him. Who by wait. Oh or it's man but we get. This is a. This is our setup game to get north carolina. What quiet basketball that see. What i'm saying. It's changed that and if you don't keep up you get left behind. I just named you florida state. Miami texas am for a minute 'til jimbo's got their southern cal they it's all like. Oh and they weren't around with history that our alumni like usc you got history. Well guess what coach say. Last week we won. Nobody gives a rat's ass about last week. Fifteen years ago reggie was there and blinder guess. Who's not there those guns thank you. We're we're control the line of scrimmage and reggie's averaging nine yards a carry bill. Sorry buddy you gotta find somebody who either demands it or you run that player or those players out or you don't recruit them. You can't keep your own guys in home. Why the hell would any listen if somebody if you've got a guy that leaves their state and you've got to go to the next one and you're recruiting basis kansas. I don't mean to disrespect kansas within your your trouble you better dominate your state. If you're florida southern cal texas the texas goes you'd better keep these guys here because within about fifty square. Miles there's enough to feel the roster of dominance. Can you do it and then go get a stood outside. se needs. They better find a guy who demands it and he's willing to shake hands and kiss babies at times because you got to hear them it is nowadays you gotta do it because those alumni or handing you a check that says this is five million. I just wanted to spend the tight end position this year. Unbelievable sports talk seven hundred. This is craig busy bed. You're listening to sean salisbury. On sports talk seven nine. Oh fuck your home of the stroz. Third sean salisbury steak. Out steakhouse on the sean cells. Barillot if you're anywhere tyler. Simply ask the question this morning. We're all the women that he wanted to know where yet girls. Tyler is trying to figure out where the white women at slide into the. Dm's have you ever gone huge tyler. Not that there's anything wrong with it. Gone big like two plus. I wasn't expecting that question. Start stakeout yeah by that there's nothing wrong with it honestly. I didn't mean. 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Where whereas i could like pick her up yet with one hand i could go all the hutchinson from michigan. I could. I wanna hand in the lower guy on the on the the leader jazz. The guy who catches the you know. Throw them up and catches them to tiny the florida stapler the other day after the game when they lose your jacksonville state. He goes and proposed the sideline after the loss. Jacksonville states staged background celebrating their victory. And he's over there on one knee and somebody said look honey just did it on twitter and went viral. Lick honey we lost this game. But i don't wanna lose you nice. And then they got the split screen. This boise state beating. Oklahoma propose jacksonville state beating florida. Stay to stay propose. Yup yeah Different let's hope. The wedding turns out better than the game for that. Don't get married at florida. State game autistic. play jacksonville. and. I can't complain because well stanford's not jacksonville state. But the the moral of that story is don't risk putting on the board and ask girl to marry you if you're not sure she's going to marry you and if you're gonna propose it a game make sure. Dick spreads like forty-seven in you know you're gonna win. Maybe it was hell. I to spread was going ahead huge. I wouldn't have at jacksonville state though you might this week. I'm alright mc what. You've got the washington football team announcing that brian fitzpatrick likely out one. Eight six eight weeks With a hip protocol hips flex prob What is the exact terminology for. Ira's it's a hip injury Supply selection selection Should the washington football team consider given that they have ron rivera the head coach. Should they look into cam newton. I think here here's the thing doesn't sound like they will look into it. Here's the problem. If you soured on cam. Newton and carolina. Why all the sudden he's gonna chat. Why would you be. Why would you all of sudden jump through the ceiling and say and it may not be that. He's not a good football player or may not be. They didn't fit in. Maybe the system doesn't fit. Maybe ron just feels like we've been there done that. And what's good for somebody else may not be good for us doesn't make camps out good football player it just means if washington doesn't do it the did they just don't think it's the right fit for them and it could be a lot of different reasons well our system. Maybe they may maybe cam's not the full time starter all the time. He what happens when fitzpatrick gets health. Go exactly so. I think there's a lot of at the hands. Some coaches will have a guy back just a lot of people. Don't want me. Because of who i am because of because of the or of strategies now but people don't want to be a backup he said but i will and asked me. I'm state new english. That i absolutely wouldn't so i'm sure it will have for cam because it's an experience a former. Mvp in it then in a super bowl but the fence gotta work too. Because you know how that is. You can be a town player if it doesn't fit. And if ron ron may still i'm sure ron has tremendous respect for him but if it doesn't fit what they're trying to do or they're looking at the big picture maybe it's not the time for them but they sure sell better. Believe that type. Taylor heineke can hold this thing down. Give some money off season yes and this division winnable all the way around. So we'll say town which you got all right so we were talking replacements for clay helton over at usc. But i want to look at two coaches who are currently well not coaching. And i want to get your opinion on both of them. Which do you see happening. Bob stoops for chris peterson. Listen bob stoops has been nothing but phenomenal in his career. If the two coaches again has to be him though right if one of the two coaches are you asked me. If i was essy who rather have or woohoo i think would coach i. Let's go with if you're se. Who'd rather they're both in analyst roles sitting on a studio set now. They're both bob. Stoops and chris peterson are are both in studio analysts. Now on the set analysts. If it was me no right today. Familiar i would go. I would go for usc. I would go. Chris peterson but and it is bob all in that. You have to ask you this. Chris all in. I don't want him to come in. And pass on bob student bob suits warms. And if he wants to coach and there's a high pressure that goes with that and listen on young any mind never thought bob stoops was done when he left the first time. I still think he's done. Yeah coach the xfl but asked. I think he's done it only sixty one. Six question is does he want. it's not that they see. Here's the problem coaching everyday for. Bob stoops bob. Stoops has fantastic. I frigging love him. Just west coast guy right and understand screaming for that. I'm not saying. Chris better coach. Bob stoops chris. Petersen's a helluva coach. Bob stoops as a college hall of fame coach in my mind. So the question you gotta ask yourself. I don't like the player that gets like later in his career. That decide will. I'm about a year to from retiring and you heard aikman talk about. It isn't the and seasons coach since two thousand sixteen hundred five years and peterson's going on what it's third or fourth year. Now this got to be your three for. Chris peterson yes. He's been slashed here. We wanna coach last year. Thought they had somebody else at washington. There's this his twenty nineteen. He was third year out. Yeah one thousand nine hundred. Twenty second coached in nineteen coaching because covert. It feels like he's been out a long else weird so he's more recent but five years it bob. Soups hasn't forgotten how to coach. The question is not during the season do they. The road off season recruiting all the rules. You gotta find those. Thanks do you want to do it. And that's what both i can tell you this. 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The houston sportsworld world. Yeah sean salisbury knows how to play the game because he really played that game. Yeah former pro. Qb right here. He actually has it on his name. Take former pro. Qb right here. Back to sean on sports. Talk seven ninety paulette. Who question the decision of songs today. By the way it's really isn't trash trash the banger trash. We're did you like it. When it first came out i was ten so yes what turned it into trash for. It did not age well did did not did. Can you guys name the astros player that you've always come to the plate with this song. Jeff bagwell ma give you pass. Wasn't richard hidalgo. I love richard kadogo. Mature dog oh we let the dogs out. Yeah it's it's still. I can't call trash little. Banger it is. It's nearly twenty years old next year twenty years old already. I believe it came out two thousand two. I think you're wrong last time. The mayors richard a dog who is out of here. I think by way was. He must've been here by two thousand two came out. Oh no it came out ninety eight dude. You weren't even close ninety nine recording released in early two thousand. And i was so they are the same. I was nine. The last time that song came out is when the mariners made plows two thousand one it was. It was out before they made the playoffs. There you go jayco to rizzi bank lead. We were he at right now. We don't know. Besides oto ami was interesting dams like all of a sudden he. He's out and he was running into first base to cover the base. And there you go. There's clearly dusty said after the game. It's where there's a there's a footage she put away on it for soreness. Yeah they had no idea. I mean they don't know exactly they hadn't said what exactly what it is. I would assume if there's gonna be an marai are of some sort today. we'll see. i didn't look good. Yeah it did. How go in assume he's done and he probably wasn't going to be in that rotation it does suck. I think he was out of the. I think that's what i'm saying. You know in a piggyback type of situation at some at some so hopefully. He's not done like as much as he makes me freak out when he's on the mound watching him pitch i. They'd need him. Because honestly like if you need to go to guy that's gonna give you two innings or three innings postseason open. You want to go to him or you want to go to walk. Mr walks a lot kershaw vier as much as i love khruschev. You just walk a ton of guys. And it's been a problem and i just With jayco too rizzi. Now mak- postseason. I don't think it was gonna be a tough postseason. But i don't like seeing by hurt plus innings as they go down we rotate get more work in having him in the bullpen. That body does matter. Did we hear any reports tires. Nothing yet so. I mean the game to end until eleven o'clock last night. I literally eleven o'clock right four hour baseball game and this has been the longest season of baseball in the history of time in terms of time to play games. It's just been stupid. We've gotta they gotta find some. They've got to find a way to not play for. Our baseball games. Feels like once a week at minimum. They're point for our game. Last night was the was the only though one two three four five six seven eight game this year. It's gone for hours. But i mean the amount i'd have to go through and count the amount of them that had been over three and a half hours. It's gotta be thirty forty games this year stupid which is nuts. It's dumb and i wonder what they mean. That's just for them. That's just for them. Yeah and these are. It's a ninety nine game. Shouldn't take you four hours to play. Ever ever got picked up. Pace had a bad pitcher pitching for taxes. He couldn't get any outs to start. The game he was given up runs left the problem. Long innings through like fifty pitches and inning and a third jay z. Through thirty pitches in his first inning That that'll slow down the need the pitching change in the middle of it. You gotta get somebody up and get them you know loose and that takes some minutes all that factors into but still we gotta get. We gotta get going here this. The panic of science stealing is still around legacy. The pitchers constantly going to those stupid cards. Whether they're in their hat or they're pulling out of their back pocket to go through different sequencing of of of what's called call signals for catcher stuff slowing everything else on the concert. Step off wave like it. You know yeah to fingernails. So they can see. Yeah i got you now. They're not paying the fingernails during the inning. I'll know but it. I hope he's okay. Listen no matter what happens. It just depth matters jae crowder rizzi. He'll give you five good ones and eight just after what happened. And they tried to bury that and move on from it. He's a body. That was neat. I don't say well it's not that big a deal. It's always a big deal when you lose a guy the brought here that has potential. That's giving you the wants to grind and that you need bullpen because those arms are gonna matter come season so let's hope it's not law and let's hope it's all k- but i don't think any of us thought that he was going to be in the starting rotation anyway. No i would have been shot. I think that there was still going to be a decision to be made if he was going even if he's only going out and look for his last six starts or whatever for five innings every start basically because i think he'd thrown thirty one innings in his previous six starts. He'd been really good. Was like well below two or three in the postseason and given the way that luis garcia has kind of struggled steve sparks tired but he has a he looks tired. She absolutely does because he's never pitched this much in his life like they could have made the decision. Hey older as he starts the game he goes and gets four innings five innings. And then we go to luiz garcia and that would have made some sense to me like as as much i don't. I'm not comfortable jake z. It was in play and it still could be play okay. But there's no doubt that's the key it wasn't a foregone conclusion was done i i i think most of the i said just a few minutes ago. That maybe a foregone conclusion wasn't going to be but you make good point in play has to be in play because we still got games to go and you never know what's going to happen. So what would think about this. What would happen if a couple of other guys were to be banged up or sore missile. Kiedis still stink. That's right for a start. In the postseason. His command velocity of. Just been unimpressive so far up. No question about it. Sports talk seven ninety. So we'll i guess it's kind of a day to day thing and we'll get report. Maybe from james click tomorrow today. Yeah it'd be nice if we could get carlos. Correa will be the station today to thirty two matt. Thomas matt thomas gusty baker twelve thirty to twelve thirty to thirty good for matt to get them both on today after a nice Ktar h weather report. He's just to that's a he. He wearing all the hats hashtag hero. There you go. Yep you love him. Slowdown hashtag held the statute outside the station slow. Let's go can't you. Well pride build one for dan. Rather or michael berry. I rather was wide. You put rather ahead of michael berry. Dan rather was the first person on the air katya rich. But have you ever heard of the czar. Well yeah he might even tell you that you make one for dan rather yeah. I would say probably that probably but questionable with czar of sports of talk radio. Hi five right next arms around each other. We'll build four statues. We'll have two on each side when he walk in. Dan rather michael berry on one side. Heavy heavy too. Yeah i would imagine that the michael berry would hold dan. Rather than the highest regard. I also would imagine their politics differ a little bit. Yeah just a tad. But he was. That's right rather was here. He was gave the first guy. I'm i'm gonna pine for a michael. Barone czar a statute for the station. He's prying foreign himself and we're in soccer shoes walking around the studio with michael berry you. We're we're those umbra soccer shoes yesterday for the champions league started when we talk about what a flex its as cavs michael berry's cavalry soccer calf off. Dude he'll challenge their week. He walks by bringing on old man. Sportstalk seven sean. South reshow head towards the eight o'clock hour. Great to have you with us. On a tuesday certapro certapro. Painters certapro dot com. It's sorta with the see. How can i make this simple for you when you get two man teams not a one. 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It's bad though just like the weather outside. Just like this song billy race Got three names. That's pretty good. Isn't it billy right now now. I don't think anybody named her name. Somebody billy ray. I just expect you to to have a mullet. He had one right all time. Driving home el camino. Won't the truck car. It's got two cds to one cabin up front. And then along marlboro reds. Some point your life. Your name billy ray marble read a never had one. What about a cool air. Smoking have never smoked. Cigarettes goes by the way those elkins six. I've never smoked a cigarette in my life. No interest dude. I've i've i've taken. I cannot stand cigarette smoke. I grew up around. My my dad was on all smoke. My mom's on how smoking for a long time so gross me out as a kid. I i'm a. I'm a big cigar. Guy matter of fact. I just about tomorrow. My like three hundred seventy humidors come in at the house. When you come to a party you're gonna have to meet your vote and it's not me. What are you gonna party. you're gonna head. Don't inhale it we got you. I've had cigar. Just put it in your mouth hole in your mouth while the cigar smoke. You don't have to smoke. Just see if you hold it in your mouth at it it. You know it's a it's a good taste. How how big is this that you're holding in your mind this car. it's nice. it's probably a foot long. Maybe not a foot long eight inches clipping. And i wouldn't cut off an inch for anybody for my nine inch cigar clipping not as well as got three hundred six best. That's all it is. Tiger tyler goes big at shaw does to regard is about I smoke cigars. Once in a while i got this nice big glass. Really cool humid one. I've wanted for long. I mean. I want it but now i have so you can store your cigar so when you guys come over to watch games at the crib and go hit that tap cigar with a nice cozy outside kitchen. I don't know what i'm just gonna live on. My patio did did either. I don't care. I'm such a simple dude. I am when it comes to that. I don't all the bells and whistles my bells and whistles this. I need cozy outdoor when i say cozy like really cool. Yeah we're everybody's there. I need a grill and a beer tap so you can ice cold and you can break out of it then a big old grill either if you want the egg or a smoker a barbecue and i've been put a pizza oven back there so we can make your own pizza. The buddy of mine has one of always wanted one bill thanks forever brick wanna. Tv's we're on college. We're watching on. Everybody can kind of come and go and there's food and grilling and then i gotta have in my office but the humidor the you just open it up you pull it out and i could stick you know. Nice big ten inch cigar toddler's mouth and that he the dude. It's nice cuban. What's wrong with you to this more. I'm just letting you. He unloaded new just giving it a second debris so he can get these clean without me. Let so when. I say a tinge cuban. You're thinking you're not thinking of the cigar that i've saying hey. Would you like to clip it for you. I mean come on man. Gets you a little flame. We gotta go. And so i i don't know man. We all have little stupid stuff that nobody else really cares about right. Just kind of interest us in a humidor at the house with the cigar that image. You like me now with my soccer in my life today. Champions league starts you know what. I'm gonna do wash champions all day long. You could have a cigar in your mouth and watch it today if you want it. That's assuming you have your house. I have power. She's she's home. She's working from home so this is still a power parakeets looking on and off all night. Halfway through getting dressed in the power went out so all that stuff of like bells. I mean it's nice. I love it when people have for me. It's simple a good size kitchen. A nice master bathroom and bedroom. And tv's where you can enjoy people. Anything i need more cat. Don't care we still need a lot of furniture. We still have had a lot of things to do those extra bedrooms in my new home. They get fixed last. Although we have bedrooms have nothing. Nothing but stuff in the calls. Where are you going to put your peleton extra beds. He can't come state or that's okay though gonna shoot. That's my point is for me. When is this kitchen and those damn i. I'm so like. I'm like a kid right now. I can't wait till my automatic. Like you know those shades and installed on the on the kitchen kitchen. So i could sit there all day. I woke up last saturday. Watch games out there for seven thirty in the morning. I'm waiting for my tv. Hey i'm going to get my. I've she's agreed. That i can have at least seventy five inch living room because we had walsh doug enough for in our house already had speakers in the ceiling that they built the house they put speakers in the ceiling so i just got to get get a receiver for it and i'm good to go so let me ask you what you said. You're what what size tv seventy five. You want. Seventy five inches. Yeah clipping that. Just go go well. Who does it but yeah. So that's i mean like sport so the so that but the little things like that. Well that didn't dare clip that to the little things like that i want. I don't need. I don't know why it's that big a deal because you can say we'll i'll just go by just have it okay. Grab it and i'm the next. I'm watching lee corso. We smoke inside. I will light a little. Sometimes it becomes a like a candle for me. I don't smoke inside. yeah to me. We looked at one house at one point. And you walked in and you get the smell of cigarettes. And we're like turn around and i don't know i i will not first of all i don. I said we're joking about smoke grits. I've smoked a grit before joking out or some. But i like to stick guys will stick it in like the top part of their mouth and they talk and up and down while they're they've mastered it. Cigarettes do nothing for that. I couldn't i can't i can't i don't understand the appeal to addiction and everything. I don't understand how you should start right. See for me cigar thing i dislike. I like the smell. I like the smell of pipe to i. Don't smoke a pipe. But i do like the smell of like when you walk into a somebody and they've got a pipe or they got one of those offices as old oak. I don't have one of those. My office is a little a little lighter. But when you go into. Somebody's got one of those houses. They got oak. And you know the. The leather chair smells like their pipe. Like you see in movies. I don't mind the smell of a pipe cigar smell doesn't bother me medifast a good one. I actually love. But i won't do it in the house at times i've lived. You know linda linda cigar and walked out but most of its outside but simple about three or four things. I dislike guys to you. Know what i put a revolving doors to the fellas can come over just head to the back yard. Grab yourself as gar and a cold beer. Enjoy tyler visa grab your cubans there. You go yep grab. The cubans is racist. Both of them the cigars. I wanna say that way but were we. We were talking about cigar. Yes you clarified cuban cigars before all do all. I'll get the smaller ones the other little smaller ones that have small cigars the smaller ones. I'll get the three inch or for you. I mean you're used to seeing those sports stocks ninety. Nfl quarterback john multi multi-front very this. Is the sean salisbury show. Sports talk seventy heavy. Tmc on tuesday be safe. I don't think you're gonna lay out today. No sundance just a hunch sundance now you could lay out. But i don't think enjoy it right layout my bed. That's pretty much sheets. Loves sleeping through storm's rains a little chill and rain or the best on a slip through it last night. Damn dog didn't move me up. Four thirty two of them were passed out. Don't move the chihuahuas by my feet. Keep my feet warm. Did you pass the chilupa now. She's she would probably eat one. I gave her the other ones sleeps on the floor next to the bed. And then there's the panic or our original dog and she just she's probably up all night with their heads. Every single knees anxiety meds. Type of dog. You can give them to her. Doesn't matter all really. Yeah would give those anxiety. Chewable doesn't there. You gotta get her stoned now. I want to try that. You not just force gummy down the throat dog. Kitty actually people like our conversation. Screw pita there i. I'm kidding but they do have these. Cbd things now for dogs. I know we've given we've given it. Somebody doesn't work sometimes so sometimes. These dogs are more stubborn than the dog on anxiety. Metria like some can't travel. You know what i'm saying. Our storms hit or the fireworks for for the and steph. Yes there's no doubt about. Do you know what my dog. Honestly it's true. I don't i don't like to talk. You know f-bomb sometimes come out of your mouth. You know dropping epo. Yeah my dog. Gla- like my own with my son and i'll send the first time he dropped and it was a funny one but you know you raise your voice in the f. Word yeah my dog ears go back and the comes up like a little wants to come up and kiss you like that word to her. I don't know is like she knows that it's it's not the right word. You always dogs are so smart like hey go grab your baby. She'll run in and grab the hayward where's carries a big old shoe size fifteen around when we're not there and lays in the bed with her bed when you when you leave come back and it's sitting in the bed with family members got to be around but if you drop an f. bomb in my home and she hears it sh- it's like it's like you gotta wash your mouth out with soap. Because he's like we don't say that. Oh yeah then like ours guys like it when when everybody gets an arguments right everybody come on man. Oh yeah they know they do the tony your voice. Just they start. Barking deers go back off. The park disagreed. Or even like when. I'm doing an interview and you get passionate on the radio. Show coming in my office and sit. Rex may look up. Her ears are back like pops. Are you no no no you gotta smiley face. But they're just they're used to hear. Just calm right. Yeah no doubt so Yeah those dogs are phenomenal man. They're the things that they do and humans. I mean they go out there and jason frogs and they just by minded urban long. Hey same here all the time and wants to go up and like liquid. Stay with us live alone. Leave him alone. My and nosy too. You know they're nosey. Yeah when i go into the bathroom to take a shower or like in the morning. She sits down out in front of the bathroom door before. I close it as if it can. You'd let me brush my teeth. Let me know when. I could get someone who taught her along the way that this is private that you've got to. If you want you got to do you want to emulate right and saw brush you can come in okay then wags are. It's dog surf trip. They are unbelievable though. Phenomenal and i think everybody knows that. And there's times well a lotta times. I think we all the dogs are so much better than humans so much frigging better. What i'm saying. They started you can fight with human. They don't like you for six months arguing that dog. You could tell that dog. You're not supposed to do that now. Goes to go to. He won't touch wet grass won't do oh they don't like it on their rear end when they're going so we hold it held from eight o'clock before he did not go to the bathroom yesterday until noon. Eight about seven o'clock seven thirty same way. here. Hillary went to the bathroom and put his leash on. I walked him out the front door of bush but he hiked it in right beggar on. Yeah they don't just doesn't my dog doesn't like to sit on tile because makes her rear end tile or when they'll go back to the carpet wait till you know the whatever the floor if it's a little cold don't want to sit on. Yeah it's hot out. Then they'll do it while panton wants him treats so speaking of treats. Do you guys do the power order. Switch for you after one game. We'll do them they. Power are the nfl power order switch for your free nights this week. No espn has. There's up hiding. They have as you well. Actually they have the same opt-in yeah. They've got the same teams that one to last week. Okay so Bucket here's chiefs chiefs buchan ears. Chiefs buccaneers okay. let's let me. Let's guess third tyler. Have you seen the list. I have not okay. This one was a big rise or this one was eight before the season started. Know seattle seattle. That'd be my guess is because the rams were in the top five am seattle's performance. I think on the road russ plays really well on the road. So rams are fourth. Yeah i would say at three three threes seattle fours the rams also five so seattle jumped from eight to three all right five. Guess new orleans. No five's team dropped. They took a loss buffalo buffalo six to be another team that took a loss but actually jumped one in their rankings. Six took a lot. Cleveland cleveland moves up to six from seven number. Seven is a team. Tomato jump got sore. Lot points San francisco next one is a team that was outside of the top ten eight. Now that i think surprised with the victory on the road. Pittsburgh pittsburgh The other one was eighteen knows not ranked anywhere near the top ten before the start of the season and nine arizona. No okay and they jumped into it. I just jumped into it at nine for example in new orleans new orleans. Okay before nineteen eighty-four arizona. They do not come in on this power rankings until twelve which is weird. They were down lower once bond thirteen with an mvp performance. Right right. and. I'm going to say that. The his parodies again or subjective and stupid so okay so we're looking at number ten and pretend to tina fell to the loss tendency. Nope not the colts. There's frigging took a loss. Let me think for this for second. green bay packers. They are they now. They do count as that but they fell to eleven baltimore. Baltimore fell from six to ten. In a what i like. Baltimore of their quarterback's dynamic i. I don't know man you know going into this game you guys wanna know. What the texans did you know jessie this party. They probably jumped ahead of the day. Jumped ahead of jacksonville. Did you have to head a jacksonville. Detroit and atlanta. No in the new york jets moved from thirty two to twenty nine and the espn power rankings progress. It was atlanta twenty seven. Yeah it's all twenty seven twenty three to twenty south. They're not good worst teams. I saw this weekend. The thirty second is the jacksonville. Jaguars seems i saw this week. And we're them. Detroit would have been in it but that fourth quarter they'd came and i'll tell you want to be able to score points. They can throw the ball. You know what else they're going to do. They're going to play hard. The whole time at dan campbell. Good set right. And it's like they've got the jets at thirty right. They they did everything right other than split two first-half slow i first-half. I don't think they're that bad but but they're not going to be one win. Jack ryan oh no question. This as far as the lions go for matchup. I wouldn't normally care about. I'm actually very intrigued. For packers lions monday night. Football two things about that which makes him. Well let's come back and talk about that because there's a couple of things was talking about aaron rodgers show last night and i'm curious about the dan campbell thing one thing before we go to break. I'll tell you know. Coach should ever have to teach effort right but you can instill toughness about how about. Here's the cultural building. And if you're not going to be a part of it i'll play a guy or keep a guy that's a little less talented wants to be a part of it whether you are not now talents. Always going to trump everything. But i'll take a seven that that is a. It's not quitting on me. Then i will attend. It's deterred won't you. As far as absolutely we'll come back and discuss this matchup. And some other ones. And the texans as they get set for the game in cleveland and are the cleveland browns. Do you think higher of them now or lower of them. Now because texans are on their way to cliven sports talk seven hundred h towns most complete breakfast collages. Breakfast tacos and sean salisbury steak. Don't forget folk view air holes yogi cleaning that microwave. Trust me more sean. Right now on sports talk seven nine hundred shirts issue sixty four sixty new york gangetic fan a jam. If i was a major league baseball player that come up with this. He would absol- lows songs hussein's this law. Right said fred what banger. He's legend a one hit wonder. Yes definitely it's actually a group a group rice. I love the love. Right said fred. Just love the way he's things could this right said fred. you don't enjoy their enjoy their catalogs. And now you and i can. I can get along. It's simple you gotta love. You gotta love. Fred is one of the guy's name of the group fred. You think yes. Okay there you go. The other guy's name is richard. That would be fred. Oh the other guy's name richard. Richard i thought i said the guy named fred. You go yeah. The guy's name is rhetoric but the other guy all right. Listen cleveland's the next opponet for the texans who came off a an impressive win against a bad team but when you play bad teams you're supposed to hammer them. Yes even if you're not a great team and they did so there's that now before we get to the detroit. Well let let. Let's get to the. We'll get to this cleveland matchup. I you mentioned aaron rodgers because there's a lot of talk. He looked disinterested. I was asked last night if i thought the off season at something to do with this performance. I i'm sure there was something to do with it. You know the late camp and getting his rhythm. Two things i know about this. One is new orleans. Just kick our ass the better team this week and probably a better team. I don't think the green bay packers are going to be in the super bowl or playing in the nfc championship game. Didn't before the season started. I just don't. I don't i don't want talking to lorenzo neal last night the food grateful back. We'll get him on here. Played for all those years. We were talking about it and he. He made a point interested. Most of the guys. And i'm not saying he asks you guys know how i feel about aaron rodgers. Hell he's a each smell. Yes i mean. I can't begin to tell people that think that you can just be some average guy. Throwing like heathrow's even great players can't throw he throws whether you like him or would he went about his business and green. I'm just talking about the football player. What he does is really unique stuff. That very few think about any job. You're and when you say very few people in the world are as good at it is that ever. He's one of those guys now. The packers looked overly disinterested and maybe the ass kicking early had something to do with it. But to me one of the safest bets in the world this week for playing well they're gonna is him playing well this week. Because they're playing a detroit team they lose yesterday to the or they lost the utah. The detroit detroit. Lose a defensive back all jeff. Khuda achilles is a he's out. Yeah and and so rodrigues as gonna play. Well out of the dan campbell. We talked about. I don't teach effort. And i would imagine dan campbell doesn't but it seems to me after one week that they're taking on the we're going to battle and then they gave their point favorites. They push the forty niners to to to the brink. Now the problem with that golf through two touchdowns late and back door cover dude base a better team What i don't like about i. Just it's hard for me to understand how you come out and you're supposed to be that good. We didn't see it from seattle. We didn't see it from san francisco until the fourth quarter. We didn't see it from tampa. We did the great teams did not want to come out and not play your best game with another thing to come out not show up. They just didn't show up and i'm concerned about their physicality. I am green base. Listen with rogers. Do you can link your way to ten. Wins and that division. The i mean minnesota's why they're winning division but right chicago looks like when they finally go after the first weekend. They're not better than the saints in tampa all four teams in the nfc west or bedroom. It's over i'm not. I'm not saying season's over. I'm not saying i was gonna change between now. And what time we get to the play and aaron rodgers like. I said a great score keeper. He'll have something to prove anytime. Somebody says something about him. That's he doesn't like he. He's knows what they're saying on all these national shows he'll come back and be fine like i said for me. One of the those beds is like this might be a safe bet in the world to have he ain't having i wouldn't imagine he's having too bad ones like that in a row. Now we'll see if detroit plays and the rest of the team. But i would imagine safe. I just going into the season. I wasn't as overly what fourteen and two or thirteen and three last thirteen three. Is that what they were home. Field advantage throughout the ad thirteen games. So they were. They played like thout great team. I just don't know and lawrence o'neill say told me something really interesting last night. And he he loves to he goes. Sean looks like he's checked out and you know this if he's checked out meaning either out of green bay or is disinterested cartagena three last two years. Hard to play your best football. But every time i counted with this but it is aaron rodgers right and he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that wants to go through a season after having an mvp's and back it up with just a subpar season. I think i i do think there. Performance was the aberration. Yeah i did that. They're not gonna live there. But i will get a little bit better idea. Where their head is this week. I would expect him to play well. And i would expect them to that to me is i know it's ten and a half but vegas is telling you that they think the same thing we do. This could be an ask and by the packs idea so that'd be one of the biggest lines of the week. yes no doubt And cleveland browns. Line to the cleveland line by the and what was the we say. Eleven or twelve and a half the tampa bay. Line over the falcons also twelve and a half yep you're gonna be one of those three games. I think it would be. I would bet tampa over. Lana speaking i said atlanta's horrible do neither bad horrible speaking of tampa. You guys see tom. Brady's video yesterday. I did so. He made sure he basically said oh. We have a big game this week. He took a twenty three shot. Or whatever no this dude made sure to include the time of day on the computer behind him and it's at three twenty eight. That's i hate him so much did. He's one of the greatest underrated trolls on twitter. I will give him the. I don't follow many athletes at all. But i do follow rate troll on twitter. Sneak care about his little dance crap in his big bitcoin. Little things like that. Yeah he just granted out. Here's the day. I'll dude three twenty three. He's he's a brilliant at knowing that somebody's gonna find some subtle in it and it's going to be as subtle as a hammer to the kids are great when they team up together for the match the ultimate. They're both great on right social mania and they sometimes throw something real quick atucha and then you'll hear it and then you wait a minute. You'll go back like the three twice. They'll say something involved in it that will get you paid. Manning does that to pay get some digs into watching it last night. I was going to go to that at about a at incredibly or nine o'clock phenomenal. But how does it feel is the first time you've had to face. Brady is falcons fan. Since the no played twice lobster forget rights code yet. We're to ask a closer going to first time with fans that he's going to get the young. I'm ready to cry. So don't be ready to cry. Just accept the loss in bet tampa bay even though you like atlanta by your brady jerseys christmas right. I won't burn it in front of him. Come into the store and you can buy your discount. That's me tommy. You gotta let you don't want a jersey of the goat it up now and it'll probably be very rarely. See three double digit lines. In one week in the you'll see a bunch of them in college football. Nfl not various. No other game. That the raiders. Steelers didn't have a line yet. The next closest is denver minus six against the think about this against jacksonville. What are you gonna make if you throw five hundred bucks on a three team parlay all those double digit favorites win. Prime make some good money. Yeah but i don't know. I couldn't big i mean you're you're expecting the the box and the browns. The win by two touchdowns arch you. Yeah but like a for. Nfl games where the lines of the margins are. I told you. I would have been more comfortable with the texans going into cleveland. If cleveland would've beat kansas city. Because i would think that there'd be a little bit more we got this man we got this and and but it's the fancies pretty grounded with this. Even if they would've won he would have said do like. I told you i don't discount. This team played pretty frigging. Well the whole key is if you keep them to three point three yards a carry their defense front and tyrod doesn't play the same as he did this week. And you don't get they don't get the turnover couldn't be you're not priority gonna get those real chance. The text won't be able to keep up like we think a lot of matchup. And i don't believe the one thing we haven't seen yet is i don't believe there. Hac down team. But i was impressed with their performance against a bad team. I would have been impressive. They don't want sixteen to thirteen which i expected. Seventeen thirteen win by three. You know win the bet move on but to hang with. They did thirty eight thirty seven on them. That was a little shocked so they took care of a really bad team but they beat them in major fashion right and played the entire game. Really four quarters of pretty solid football. So cleveland beyond watch. Don't misunderstand me one bit i. I believe that wholeheartedly. But i would think that it would have been easy for them to say. Oh we just hammer can't city. Oh yeah we've got these guys coming in this to go down in terms of gambling. Lives they go in. By you know a touchdown late of the three while. I'm pulling for the texans. And i hope they can keep it close if they get after they have to generate some pass rush and they're gonna have to be man a grown ass men in the front seven to stop that run game but you're tampa beard. Land atlanta was so bad and tampa was really good against dallas. Maybe you can see in a divisional game or matt ryan actually made that throw forty eight times and he may go right. Think the back door teams. Please don't be. But i am tempted to parlay all three of those Partly all three of them in a bet with the lines are that high hundred bucks. I'm thinking bigger than that now. I've got like nine dollars right now. But i'm thinking more reward not just just for the hell of it but i'll let you know as we get closer and return. I would imagine. Matter of fact. I'm gonna punch it in and see without hitting the confirm but that's right. It's a fake one cycle monopoly. One cleveland lines up so it didn't take long to go. I'm hoping the battle is there. I will talk about cleveland next and we'll also talk about what what did i say. I wanted this manning last night right. We'll hit both those and fans here. Seven one three to five seven ninety. Do you hold the browns in higher regard after last week or are you same old browns. Good now not the same old browns. Your dad's browns or your uncle's browns of your bigger brothers browns. But the browns of the the the good twenty years ago. Maybe it is your dad or maybe it isn't a brother who's fifteen years older than you. But i can tell you this. This is a different browns team. But i wanna know where you hold them higher regard or you just looked at and say of course they were going to blow it. Where are you with this sports. Talk seven ninety. Sean sows ratio. Meant st clinic mentioned clinic dot com guys whether it's sluggish little bit of depression that you're saying depressed. I'm not getting into the gym. Feel might my body feels soft tightness thing up a little bits muscle growth. 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Who's the best one hit wonder song of ever of all time Seven three two one two five seven hundred if you got at the best one hit wonder. I've never asked that question. The best one wonders song them all time. Thank you break. Your heart is pretty good around. Yeah he's had for me. It's dobie grey drift away. It's got to be one of them for me. Just pull the websites who tickets to paradise. Tequila. that's eddie money. you call eddie money. A one hit wonder he was totally a one. Hit the hell out of here. Oh stop five. Tom petty one one beatles wanted wonder coordinator. Yeah there as well. it'd be. He calls him a no hit. Wander there is. I'm gonna die on the hill. The beatles suck. I don't care. I i i can understand their contribution music everything. Their music sucks two tickets paradise. Good cut i wouldn't look at any monies wanted wanted but i don't know anything else. They'll be great. Did drift away is right. Now tyler you find out for him so he knows you can pull that up when you get it. Just kick it in for drift away. Just trying to look. I'm looking at lists here. The best one hit wonders raining. Men by the weather girls that was number one on this list. Mock arena is number two great one hit wonder that one of the great songs. I'm trying to think what else there's a song. Why am i lose egg you break. Your heart comes. Fourteenth on this list is red bone on there. They say a lot of songs didn't they but they got one. This is the band. Yeah the name of the band is red bone could pull that up for second. Name me the song see. How many cuts they had. I missed out on a bunch of not on this list. Okay then let me say they've they've had to have more than one hit. And i know they have but the one that sticks out all the time i've been red bone on on google and it comes up red bone marrow. Red boneless see here. This is still active right again. Give me their top saw. What did you tell me one. I don't know this song. Yeah this is. This is red bone those dobie grey for. Now you tell me. This isn't one of the best. Always look at a guy like this. And i say do this is such a smooth sound and to get into it. How the hell did we not hear. More widespread bone is best of albums. So they say yeah can't be because they were good but they have one that sticks your love. That's it there you go. I just don't know all the time. I had a bunch of red bone song names. But i know that they've been around a long time. They've what they've got to be thirty years right if i was the my nickname my yes. Is it an activist. Nine six nine. I'd nicknamed my team or my band. The red rocket since nineteen bone. You go say do you. Like drift away now hit up. Red bone wired. Leave that on. Why you're going to find a red bone Come get your love. Oh you know another one that you love. And i can't remember who sings it is at one of the is it. Stewart something stewart jemaine stewart as not a one You don't have to take your clothes off to have a good time. You ever heard that cotton hall. We're playing the one wonders. The rest of the day then do qualifies for trash. Yeah yeah so that's why. So this is this is one of the great one hit wonders. How did dobie great ever come up myself. There's something else came when you got red bone. Come get your love. let me know. And then you're gonna find what i what is loved by hathaway. Great greg cut list so whatever this this music seven one. Three two hundred pop music. Great one hit wonder. Oh yeah now tyler find. Take your clothes off to have a good time. You don't have to take your clothes off. You remember this. yeah now. Red bull been ronald like i said you ran. Shoot the one they always play. But there's some people out there right now. I imagine my biscuit right now. He's sitting larry some old guy. What's our guy. Brian who loves music. Our guy brian. Yeah he's a he'd probably sit back saying okay. We got ourselves from some cuts. Yeah so this is a fair to be one. And that's not trashy that's a great cut. You'll find yourself when you're when you're driving down the street. You gotta sing the song man. Can we get you just have to. And it'll perk up your energy all the way through remember correctly. It's the first opening song in guardians of the galaxy and it sets the tone for. Yeah this is tone center here. You go decent song. Yeah okay you've got the other one now. Tell me you don't like this cut. Fc you don't have to take your clothes off to have a good time. Give me give me one second. All right i. I would say that. That's right now right now that you'd say it's alive. You can't dry dock and have a good time you do. You do always here. A fraud proponent of like the astros win it naked and take my shirt off you listen to this song after a championship run. No it's just again. Jemaine stewart not germane store one of the something stewart. Not germane stewart. It's something stewart. I believe it. T- take your clothes off. It should be easy man. You can't find it that easy cut now. There was apparently a different version of asking. All right gotcha. Do you find it. I believe so. Hit it. And i'll tell you if it's it what plane the plane. The one hit wonders on a rainy day. Because well we want you guys to and even work to your home as you should be hip to be say. Yeah say so. We've got people this. Just just let this role for a second. I'll tell you we go to break cheesy. Oh it's young. it's this cheesy as it gets. That's why it belongs on trash tuesday and this song. I couldn't tell you anything else. They sang maybe they. Maybe i would know if i heard the song but this one this one like you're taking a shower is your clothes off and he starts singing along even though you know. It's a cheesy song and you can't understand thinking it bingo. Let your keyboard. Oh yeah i've seen this your little energy for you. Right sounds bad. It is bad. That's why i asked for and it was a one hit wonder. I think they've seen more cuts. But this is the one that people that you always hear back into debt. Give it about thirty seconds of. Take us to break tyler. Let's get to the chorus take music. Yup she's wind the guy. Nah nah. nah you'd take your clothes off sore. That's the only way to have accurate. Sports talk seven ninety one hit wonders or wait not them. You don't have to take your clothes off to have a good time but maybe you did sports. Talk seven ninety. Take them off. Come right back. Hello haters from la to new york her up and kiss our ass astros. Oh goodness this is sports talk. Seven hundred home of your astros still 2017 champs about it sean. Salisbury show continues right now. They've been pretty bad now. Anyone eddie eddie. Money's no one hit wonders the point still trust on. You really thinks it's not good. Yeah but he's not a one hit. Wonder you'd said billy ray cyrus is good. That's at least catchy. Has dance so your ass. Don't billy ray cyrus and eddie money. Come on you better. Heavy took billy ray all day the mullet you love the mullahs check. It grow on mars to currently for. You should try and do. Let's just see what you grow your hair out on. Yeah so there you go and you know we get what my sharoni. Who's saying my show. The knack is my guy said. Let's get here some other. One hit wonders some brian and will one hit wonders We've seen athletes. I mean some one hit wonders and athletes to have sure how shine for a year and never heard from again. Yeah we have we have seen it or for a game or two and then that was it. Let's get to brian brian. what's up. Hey sean you don't be clocking brought cover artists where you've been. Yeah i know with all the you. It i tried to call. You never can get on. Well we're here brother good to have you on then that that's a great one much wrong about that. Guy was already shaping the one about driving attacks we all over the place. Yeah chambers tax joe brown. Yeah i know the song you talk about. I don't remember the beat. But i know who. You're talking about blinded by the light. Oh yeah i forget who. The band love blinded about a times by man elected copan. He's fed longhair pre people. Out of i like. Why do brian would be good to give her a call. All these great was the one before that Signed sealed delivered. I'm yours no not that song. You're talking about a different one. What was the song the song long hair people. Yeah me now. I know who you're talking. Keep singing but brian. What was the one you said before that would not my sharona but was the other one. Oh blinded by the light blind dried ally find out. What have you ever went up wrapped up like a deuce another runner in the night. You get what's that brad obligated. Who actually did yeah. We're gonna pull it up right now so you can hear a brother. I hope you're healthy. Be safe out there. It's great to hear. I love you guys and you know feelings mutual brother. Thank you if you drink today. Don't floodwaters yet. they ain't go will. What's up a couple things where you Dobie green one other big in the sixers. Okay over and over and above drift away. What wasn't The in crowd okay. So he won't cry. If hugh hewitt if you play you might remember it huge gigantic okay. So all right. Yeah my all time. Favorite is one that everybody lose group while cheery. You know what's wrong all yeah. It's it's play that funky music wipe boy right. That's that's one of my all time. Favorite one one. I forgot forgot will. That's a great one wild cherry. Play that funky music white boy. I love it one. One of the men were. We'll hit that in a second for you will. Thanks brother appreciate the call. Thank you we got. We got wild cherry and blinded by the light. Do you get blinded by the light yet. See the thing is i. Don't wanna play those. Because those songs aren't trashed satellites. Good mix in one. Hit wonders too. So we've kind of crossed over today for the rain. We're giving people because they may be a little down today. Can't get to work on behalf right. They may want to hear it like all of sudden. You haven't listened to blinded by the light wind. You say all right well. What's wrapped up. Have you ever looked up to what it means wrapped up like a deuce another rohner in the nights. I'd like doobie all dude. What a great start to cut marks. Stay right there banger. Dude is they using blow. Madame up told me i got good intake. She i love this. I like it at the end win. Their harmonized says revved up revved up like a deuce not rattling running tonight. Okay what does it sound like rona right. That's why you gotta love the cotton right now. This is this guy's rolling on one one. I think this is the knack. I think i'm sure there man for man. Yeah this isn't the knack it's manford man is that he would ask. And the hookah knack. I don't know what they saying. But we had a twitter person calling land for around for seven years. If you're not if you're not putting pumped up by this just got the laser it does. It's just a banger at the end of this song to when they're going one guy singing this and in the background you can hear the chorus and the team and you could hear them harmonize in a different part and at the end of it. They're singing one part this thing and the other and they come and merged together at the great cut man. Also my god this song as long. It's seven minute. Yeah and we don't have seven minutes but we're gonna take marks call. We're gonna come back. We'll open the nine o'clock hour with buck. Cherry cherry wild cherry but jerry to. That's not a bad one. Either but wild cherry play that funky music white way mark which you got. We've got about a minute before break brother. What's happening all right. My wife told me last night. I was one wonder. How long did that one last mark. About thirty thirty seconds fifteen. I got three three real quick play. One can't say ninety six tier in the mysterious nice suit. Ninety six tears spirit in the sky. Norman green all. Yeah spirit him big time. One hip yup. The last one was venus. Shocking boys tried venus. We got you mark. Thanks precious What caller called in saying the song was actually written. By bruce springsteen really the double. Check that man fred. Ma'am we've got. We have got wild cherry. We've got spirit in the sky. One hit wonders on your special tuesday as well as well. Last week's game be a one. Hit wonder when we cleveland browns against the texans. Let's hope not no fool's gold. Let's keep this thing rolling although maybe a little more difficult trash tuesday with your music. But we've added a little one hit tad because some of these one hit wonder pretty smooth and good wild cherry next sportstalk seven nine and tell you what's not trash. That's anything that you drink from tarbuck brewing. You're gonna love it and you know what you might not be working today. Now be responsible with. Don't go out and do anything stupid. I'm asking you sit at home under but watch some champions league soccer two and have something ice cold from car by bruin. Heck the astros play that. Why not have across forbach during the day. Have some ranch water heart cells. Maybe have the new love street light. The new love street light is taken off by the way crisp. Great light beer. If you're looking for the for a very light option very few calories very few carbs go check out the brand new love street. Light from car brewing. I promise you when you have. You're going to say so fantastic. Beer this is gonna be my new go-to beer and they have a lot of goto beers. You could talk about again crawford. Bach the original hop padilla. Their original love street. And there's just so many options from car carbonic I would go ahead and tell you to have them all. Get a variety pack. Because it's just that good check it out over to the store today. Load up on it when you're out on your weekends watching football baseball whatever might be make sure as always it's with something from carbonic brewing in your hand and as always drink responsibly. Bill quarterback john longtime friend. Sean salisbury. this is the sean salisbury. Show a shoot for one tuesday music early and we're going to one. Hit wonders late blinded by the light. Manford man wild cherry will thank you. Play that funky music. We're talking to you tyler. Play that funky music. White boy is not white though white boy. Yeah fun fact. i'm not. I'm not actually okay. I need a break dan. Your ancestry dot com all that you're would tell me what breaks down percentage. You know from what i know. It's a good chunk hispanics. However i am also partially european and for me. It's the european that shows. Because i am the whitest due to my family really. It's not even close. I when i was growing up i questioned whether or not i was adopted. There's no way you question. I did and i found out. I wasn't because i looked at a picture of my grandfather when he was my age and it was like looking in a mirror. It was crazy. i've never questioned. Who if i'm adopted. I look i look at my father. Said i mean he. He's he just didn't have the red hair on top of the here. Yeah i So tyler do your plan that funky music white boy. One hit wonders. We've played some. There's some pretty damn good one hit wonders out there. There really is. We're gonna have to get hit spirit in the sky when you fight at their bud for Is that. I don't like there might have been more than one spirit in the sky. I don't know what else that credence that's not. Ccr no no no. I don't know but look it up. Spirit in the sky and who does what about eight six seven five three. Oh nine is terrible. Song was that Hussein that tell me. Jenny who can i turn to. We'll check that out the same stacy's mom not who saying Tell me jenny. Who can i turn to. I will find out so in the sky. Was norman greenbaum. There you go. He and mark said it. So we'll take that one and then tell me eight six seven five three nine. We'll grab that high may what's up. How you doing welcome in was a man how you doing. Good but yeah man. The wonders makes music world. Go round isn't it agree what you got on your mind. Wow ma came out with one Take on me. But i got a couple more on that to the ultimate. They want wondering baby. Yup we do we. we've we. We played that. Was that on a couple of weeks for us in the club product. Yeah we had that into club friday. We're with you. We he was at the top of the list. Yeah there's no doubt we also got mix a lot with Maybe got back baby does got back. How many calls emporium some back. Maybe does that back that she maybe got bash. She got back. Who was saying. They're the person the room there for tyler. Hey don't don't feel. I'm latino but my birth superstars i'm white so i'm locked. Look thank you very much is what is what is the president. Call latinos now. What did what call it. He's got a name for him. Now he says the to crossover genders or something tonight is oh no yeah. There's a different name. He does he he. He's using some other form of it. I can't remember what it is Because latino and latina okay. let's use it. Let's just use the proper gender. When it comes to latino latino or latina. I think i love this. I will one day have kids and people will stare at me and think that guy's kids is that he's kids except for if they come out with red hair but all of skin and red hair. Yeah they're going to be ten. They're gonna be tan at least and they're gonna they're gonna white pale red headed guy and go. That'll be from his mom though. Has all from this this this bar here. It doesn't burn all right. Here's how know if you're really really either. A had a really white dwarf freckles on your elbow everywhere. If you have freckles on your elbow. Everybody's don't while you're driving yup frankel elbow strawberry if you've got freckles. I literally have freckles. In every spot on my body freckle archer had got him everywhere. Not a single spot on my body you cannot go in not find frankel. Let's hope there's no. I can tell you. There's rifles everywhere. There is at least one freckle every every spot on my mind all the who thinks this again to yeah tom. He's got a couple of signs gloves. You've gotta love tommy to tone the this will take you back now. We got trashed tuesday. Which usually bad songs on tuesday for our music but we also decided on a rainy day. Like just to give you some spirits. Some great one hit wonders. He always wonder tommy to add a few man. One wonders awesome. Yeah have you ever dial eight. Six seven five hundred woods there yeah. I don't think there's anything they're only only phone number. That's more popular than me and music. Is mike jones. Two eight one. Three three zero eight zero zero hit my jones von because my jones about the blood units eight hundred fo eight zero zero four. That's all song coach. Ulta eight six seven five three zero nine on right now. That's not enough numbers eight. You joe's number. My is number back up to seven zero. Six seven five three. Oh nine answers. Are we allowed to do that. Don't you warn them. He's got radio just say. I'm sorry if somebody answers say sorry. We have the wrong number. Just call them and ask them. I just just call eight seven one three eight six three nine definitely anybody answers. There's somebody picks up say. I'm sorry we have the wrong number. We were calling from a radio station. They say oh cool. You're running you better. Go catch it. Did you got ask just call somebody good hers. He takes all right. Yeah one wonders numbers not a working number. Well i i would imagine maybe all of the system just yet all the system people get just got tired of it. Have you ever noticed in movies. They always use five five five. Something they say. Hey five five five something for a number that you call if you gotta call us a phone in a movie and go from there all right. Eight six seven five three. Oh nine is not our number but seven three two one two five seven ninety. We'll get to your calls. We're gonna talk texans browns. We're having fun. Mix in some analysis and some laughs. We talked a lot about what the trojans trojans leaders the next head coach and if you want to chime in not just on that which you would look for as an athletic director in higher coach. Give me the number one trait or two. They have to have for one hit wonders. Because we're having a blast at nine o'clock here on a tuesday and hope your safe one hit wonders and man. We've been rolling. Spirit in the sky is coming down the pike mark. We've got that for you. Especially since you said you lasted about thirty seconds. I don't know what you did. The other twenty five. But it's great to have you on sportstalk. Seven ninety proudly broadcasting from the most hated city in baseball. Houston rides with sean salisbury. Show on sports talk. Seven hundred eight zero by the time. The songs start saying mark is already finished guy. He's old. i love mark. Though he likes he likes valentine with mama to compare japanese visual frigate. I can't i have a big bathtubs. There's no desire to do that. That marks made it famous friction with water marks rating famous on here a little dry. Even though it's the waters give my point. Yeah just doesn't work again norman. Green norman greenbaum there. You go one hit wonders. I told you my god. Biscuit would be listening. Because i know he's loved some of those dobie grey one. hit wonder cuts. What's he got this. What's welcome what's up man. Enough freak most see. That's another one man. He went all the way to number one. I believe about eighty two or something like that. You know who we need right now. Casey kasem selena number top. Nobody casey kasem. And then i know you damn well know about our guy on saturday running soul train though. Promise you that biscuit. What was what was our man's name on soul train. Don don don cornelius awesome. What did dick. Clark don cornelius and our guy casey kasem. He's still does american if you can. I listen to him when i'm driving long trip. He'll still do. Let's go back to one thousand nine hundred seventy three the on that day that month. Yeah american top forty. Pretty cool man tyler. Who you got that song. Tell him that again. How how's that the name what's the name. Let's see the freaky sheet there. You go freak out there you go love it when we when we say bisky. Last thing is I don't know if you guys caught the of a fight saturday night man but whatever saints in advance hold of be a step back and rain. They need to have a license revoked. That was you take the find out. I did not too busy watching college football. I did not watch it but there's nothing that man it was. It was painful. I mean it was ridiculous. It was paying for the man to see the real deal. Come on fifty eight years old. So i couldn't stand up and real deal alls i want from really minute. You know of interviewed him in person. A hell of a guy and you know what a career but i i i don't i don't want that vision. It's like when i see players have watched joe nemeth now. You know what i'm saying. I know it's different. I watch joan aimed. At the end of korean ramsey uniform. Where i remember he ran like a bootleg his knees were shot and i remember just as he got into the endzone he put his arms up like he had a football one hand his arm and the other on his iconic for me that he just went into the end zone and the players didn't hit him he kind of scouts into the end zone. It's like you're not expect joe and it was almost a respect like i can't hit you dude and joe's my all time favorite interviews. What a great guy but it was. Just i don't wanna see that. I see warning four years old. And he's fifty eight. I don't need to see that biscuit you're right and it had to be is source for you but almost gut wrenching him. I mean i understand the money. Why but we don't need to see that. Is boxing here like they. They gotta stop man they got to atlanta. Thanks on your raiders man. That was a while game last night. Man der der car look like an. Mvp didn't he played his ass. What a great man. And i asked the question yesterday now. We got to see that in december on the road you know. Prepare and against the team and inclement weather when they're hitting them in the mouth but baltimore's a physical team ops proud of his performance last night. And keep battling battling. I'll take my raiders. My my two sons. Were calling me. 'cause they're going nuts because they're raider fans to and it was a phenomenal a hell of a game last night. That had a little bit of everything. But i'll take that one. The question is can they sustain it. Because that was derek carr looked like i mean he had a monster performance last night but it was fun to watch. Yeah i think the Busy baltimore that's what i'm worried about. Say say that again. I'm afraid for baltimore. I don't know man. I i said the same thing today. I'm with you i. It's it's a when when somebody mentions baltimore. It's like i don't know man. I'm i'm caught. Then they could for two games. Make me think they're really good and then say we'll lamar jackson carry everything. He's got a care. That's a burden to carry all year the depth right now. I'm concerned about them to. I'm not sure their playoff team. I'm really not yet. I'm with you biscuit. Thanks but i appreciate it. We'll get the lay frequently. She did you see anything that makes you think that he's going to be a better passer this year last night. I mean i'll tell you one. That i loved one that i loved. It had to be cash. Was it in the second quarter. He dropped back and put his foot in the ground. And i didn't move around drop. i want to hitching. It was like three from the gun. Three and and through a deep curl route resent and a whole any ripped it. I'm telling you. I think it was the second quarter and ripped it and i thought okay. That looked like it was it. Looked like you're watching those prototypical. Throwers right back. Set your foot in the ground take a hitch and let it go and then you see like here's the problem with him. I believe i've never believed he was a going to dominate. You passing two things better. I don't guess there's no doubt. I don't know but that doesn't mean dude. His arms powerful. He's got great skill san when he's on the run he he's so dynamic he can make some of those stupid yes should be. There phenomenal phenomenal skill. Set there there's no question and and football he's got a great feel for what's going on. I mean sees vision and all that but it's not his comfort zone of. I have this question until it proves to be different princes. Mahomes ain't moving. I believe he can sit back there. Dope forty times beach. Aaron rodgers kyla murray is going to get kind of relief. Save for two years. He's a better thrower. Then lamar if i asked you this. I mean mayfield. Starting to get it that we know. Josh allen can guys that can beat you both but if they take that away now. It's a challenge to take it away from him his feet right but if you say do you have one of those well. We saw numbers. I start in a playoffs against the chargers. Really couldn't could do anything so he's more than ten yards and they knew it well he got better. He quantum leap won the mvp. He was so dynamic. And there's no question that. But i just don't know if they say listen. We were down to a tight plan running back or can you drop back sitting there. And they're not even that if they're not letting feet. Somebody's got a great defense. We got one game plan dude. You're beating me from the pocket all day if you could beat me. They're all tip my hat team about on a continuous base. I don't know and here's the other thing for a guy that so dynamic like that one of the hardest things to do is quit relying on what you know you do to escape and play like we wouldn't school yard in parkway say oh we nobody can tackle you and he goes and makes a play on the run that's where he's credited so when in out the first guys not there thing you'd think you go make a plant my feet because i'm better than that guy i'm throwing you see my point and it was hollywood. Brown ran like a deep curl. Route sat in a whole really nice. And lamar let it go. Didn't waste any time putting the whole boom. I don't know if it can be sustained. That's my concern that. If you take away his feet can eat beat you or does. He still rely on one bail too early to go beach on the edge. I think you're right about being concerned about them because this is the year where they've got all these running backs they're now. I've hurt. They need him to be everything. Yeah and like is he going to be able to take the next step throwing the football like a i think about the receivers there too i. It sounds crazy. I don't know if i necessarily want to be playing for baltimore. Receiver because your numbers are never going to be gray. And their and their receivers. There's a major in you. don't line up. Say there's five weapons that are devastating. Now you've got talented guys but they are not mark andrews. They got some good players. But i don't the passing game just the consistency. The passing game. Big on scrambles. Yeah i don't. I don't trust the constant from the pocket passer game and i think lamar jackson is a special talent. I do. But i honestly i'm concerned. And part of his biggest strength turns that into what we're looking forward to. I don't want to say a weakness but something he's still got to get better at. Because i know any of us in anything we do hell. I'm always gonna win in doubt. Go to go down absolutely right. Who isn't any golfer. I know for me wherever i am. If i can get to a point where i have an eight iron in my hand. I feel pretty good. Hit their five. Grab a safe. I have a six in my hand. That's club i. I feel like i close my eyes and hit it now. Sometimes i'll miss it. But that's a club and i pulled my bag. I say okay. I'm putting after the shot. That's how i feel for him. It's like winning doubt wouldn't you if you're 'em say okay. The first guys not open the second third guy may be open. But i'm better than they are anyway and i think that can become a weakness because you know that strength is so frigging big right so i am concerned about them and saw people talking about you know nothing stood out to me. That was like horrifically bad last night but nothing stood out. That's like okay. He looks like he's different here. Different there you know. I don't know if you ever want that guy to not him dynamic. The always wanted to be that player but he has to improve throwing the degree. The next grab a coach by them because they may be stuck again. It's one game it can change. But like i feel like they're gonna be one of those teams get stuck in that tier of like they're closed but the quarterback now being throw enough you can take them over the top that you can take away their being strength. I i agree. And i will tell you. This is not. John harbaugh any coach around the country at any level. That tells me we don't want him to run as much. I wanna grab them by the nap of the neck. And say are you out of your frigging. You wanted to run. But i've always wanted the point for me is but i also want him to before he runs sometime the other thing you see his legs should be his own check down like if he's getting to his third or fourth guy once in a while not as i get through the progression then go do your thing or if we got a built in run for you but i i know this that that france fights said russell wilson who do you think throws better from the pocket right now. Russell wilson jr josh allen. Josh take kyla murray or murray week you see what i'm saying. I think i could probably go through the majority of the quarterbacks in the league and i'll take them throw him from the pocket ahead him and then for the magenta always been that he'd be in the top two right. But as i always say. Find me the quarterback. Who's a runner. I in eight thrower second. I won't get you. You're not winning. Their many of those guys got super bowl. Is there any well. People say steve young was the ultimate partner with the league in pass. Completion percentage all that stuff. And you know who else russ wilson when he wanted but guess what russ. They threw the ball. Yeah that's exactly right. He he was a great scrambler but he threw it. I should he win. This was that twenty fourteen something like that. Listen russell wilson. We'll come back james. stay right there. We'll get your one hit. Wonder take as well. And we'll break down the browns and the texans and what to look for here at nine thirty. I can tell you this that pocket quarterbacks who can extend do both win championships runners. I throw or seconds second. Do not win super bowls and they have it. And i would guess that they won't sportstalk seven hundred. Wear a mask or wear gloves. Wear leather and chains reminds me of that time i accidentally walked into an sem convention. Back still hurts to speaking of back. Pay back to former. Qb sean salisbury. On sports talk seven ninety. Get medieval on him sean. Going medieval on the one hit wonder. We're going to talk about these grounds and vista made a good point my raiders who i love. I don't know if i expected that last night. But i was so. Oh yeah this. Stacy's mom stacy's mom one was kathy. Ireland is had the model is was the stacy's mom kathy ireland video. Yeah i don't know. Did she ever going on. Yep stacy's mom what do you think stacy's mom is. texans darlene. No no played by. Rachel hunter in new zealand is a supermodel. I said kathy ireland. That's exactly what is rachel hunter. My back she's got the island kind looks the same similar supermodel area boiler. Yeah luke rachel rachel. Hunter married to rod stewart at one point. He had the divorce from two that he annexed married ninety minutes. He doesn't say yep there you go. Don't tell me rod stewart's one. Hit wonder tyler. Maybe they got divorced because of this video so thinking about five. It's all tell you this videos no whitesnake. I'll tell you that. I've seen i know. God god restante soul. She died recently. Unfortunately chuck finley the pictures ex wife. I think she passed away within the last two months or so three months unfortunate and she was in that whitesnake video. If you remember all those old music videos sad story. I think she's in her fifties or maybe around sixty to bet. We see that too often. Now james what's up. One hit wonders. And we're about to break down the texans browns as we've and i wanna get from my partners is are the browns more real than we thought or the browns don't have close up. What's your one wanted james. Oh okay i have two of them. The money for the first one is A taste of honey by chiaki japanese singer taste of honey. Yeah and single chiaki. She's a japanese singer. Okay and the second and the second one is called magic man by robert winters in fall. That's a tremendously good song to magic man. Did you hear those tyler and false. I imagine man by heartless system but can't was magic man. What was the other one called Quote case honey by sukey hockey as the japanese. Okay taste of honey by sue chiaki. Okay gotcha we appreciate your brother. Thank you bye-bye. Thanks james taste of anybody. Have you ever heard of no. But i- wonderful recognize the song while tight we wanted. You don't think so. Tyler's looking for the one hit wonder. We've had a lot of great calls today. I love these type of days where people sometimes you know what sometimes just fun little conversations. Good when everybody's serious and breaking down analysis and we've been that to trojans zito who new head football coach dante williams. We'll be taking it over for the rest of this year. Great recruiter but the big sexy name. You can count on somebody people. No not on somebody. People don't joe brady would be a sneaky. Want people know who he is now. Is he ready to make that transition to doing the the head coach. But you'll see. Dan mullins name a lot of mario cristobal. Oh i've heard this cut. Yeah never heard this dude if all here. That's what you're gonna hear. I think this sukey ocoee this incidence. I don't know any other song. They sing. But i've heard this on this. Grab your partner. The high school dance hands on the lower back. It's seventy four degrees in houston matt thomas. Ktar h with doppler report. Doppler thomas sports. Talk seven ninety. Hit the post dollars. Important to hit the always. Gotta hit the post. You gotta hit right when the cut kicks in. You know tyler tyler picture yourself with you know you'd like say we're the white women at this is picture you at the white girl right there on the dance floor. Not what he's got when you got when you got like a ponytail with your. You said you wanted a mullet now picture. You right here at tyler. Yeah she smells your old spice on your neck. You just had a nice Nice like some Cherry picture myself with the mullet flannel sleeve. Cut off all jacked up. Look like kenny powers. Oh yeah good call by. I know this song case. Honey can't find that other one was magic by who again. I don't know who was by magic fan but yeah there you go all right. Do you think that the texans thank you guys for all the great one hit. Wonder talk texans. Fans look at cleveland. After that. And say ou. We're in for something or we got a shot. I think if you are looking at football without your bias involved. You're looking at cleveland and looking at that game even though they lost kansas city. You're saying i'm terrified of them and you should be i. I watched we talked about yesterday watching their two guys. Run the football. I think i. I don't know how he will stop them. Tritter but tonia there so loaded so good at the lines on both sides there you got size. They got speed. They got everything they do. They play denzel ward. They're good on the back end. They run. They've got speed on parameter even without beckham and the lineup. They really do they. Jarvis landry of frigging troop row his touchdown run on on the When he when he ran it in and took a hit and a second hit and got it in the i. I actually think he's the he's the one of the glues on that football team getting him for miami's one of the great gets the browns made i do But i think if you're the texans looking at the tape you need to waltz in their thinking if we don't play perfect we get are asking but you're going to have to play pretty damn close to cleveland. I think the texans to play hard for a lot of very close. Yeah i think you may be if they if they play like they did against kansas city. Put it this way. If the browns play like they did against kansas city in the texans play like they did against jacksonville which was impressive. And you know how. I feel about what they did but going into can't city and if i take away even if the planner drops the punt and and Tyrod makes a throw like mahomes. Didn't he kinda well he did in the game. This passionate cooks throw. That still may not be enough. They're going to have to do a lot of things before baker. Keiko baker goes twenty to twenty eight. Those guys run like that and it turned it. How many times turn it over. The the browns ice all the mayfield at the end interception and the fumble to was all three because if you turnover but you have to turn those turnovers points and it turns field. They tournament two points against jackson key. Better shove laying on the ground to one time. Yeah i think. Two of them were turned into turned into a points for kansas city. The one the drop punt obviously turned into points and then the interception by baker at the end did that just sewed up the game. And i do believe when chubb laid it on the ground that they went in and scored. The can't say chief. So i believe they turned it over twice and they. They lost a fumble through interception. Well they will data. Don't have late and underground you sure. Turn maybe fumbled. That they get back. I thought played it on the ground. And i thought that maybe they did get it back. Did fumble another one. But they. They recovered okay. So chubb late underground chubs fumble loss. Jamie gillan fumbled says. Oh it's better. That's the yeah. It doesn't say no turnover but he fumbled but because they didn't pick it up he picked it up got tackled. That's right and so there was a turnover on downs. But it's a turn determine no-doubt so it all baker's led to the end of the game but the punter and and And chops led to points. So you're going to have to do that. So it's gonna take a monster performance but i feel better about them at least being competitive than i did going into last week. Nothing against and it's not a moral victory to better something against the texas. I don't feel good about this game at i understand. They played well last week and they should be really hungry after laying down and they know you can't go down to you. Can't you can't lose your first two games if you're cleveland. You just can't make it up but you just don't you especially when you had cancer on the ropes and you can't lose to a team that people think so bottom five team but i'm going to enjoy now. It's time for them to quit. Enjoying this win focused. This'll be one of the tougher games their schedule the way. The browns talent level is sports. Talk seven ninety. Have we played it for plumbing. Paid jeff you've got more. Sean salisbury defect got for you left off on sports. Talk seven ninety home of your stroz. Adding paul guy tyler. You're that's a great one by you. Ohio player baby come back. Listen baby you can be like this. Cut tyler's slow down. Forum tyler tyler. Second about how we opened the show white women because he likes the white ladies wearing the mask of false bravado. See the love at tyler. Can you sing this tyler. We heard your voice here. You got it all. I cannot say you don't know the cut. Why am i know the company had on other words. Yeah man i. I'll tell you what. I pulled during this advice. Bullet i might pull during. Did you might have thought. I felt like i was okay. Fan my hair flowing. You know what i'm saying. I had Like wallabies on my shoes. My shoes my wallabies on my wide courts on to wipe wide the why. Why sports only one thing. Maybe maybe maybe the chocolate brown ones on and a really nice izod lacoste or no. It was more of the. What's the surf shirt like a. Hang ten shirt you guys know anything about. Ot shorts maybe now why they had those on the nut hugging opie shorts there's about eight million dudes. That are listening right now. Even though there's not that many saying i wore those show those ofi shorts. Great cut tyler. Did you get twenty four seven dino coming up after this and looking for it right now but i only got one thing on my mind right on. Why women here. Looking for tyler White women have you ever said his baby come back. Have you ever say yeah. Slide in the dmc. Did you wrong tyler. There was something in everything about you. Man that's what she said to her. He tell me that again worth all the white women hit that one. More time tyler. Did you lose it. Multiple things play. Can you tell me your you tell you paying. And where are the white women at. That's that's how much i love it. We're showed diversity here. We are the white women. The white guy does not like the white women does not have a white woman not going to be married to one. I'm okay on the tino front. And he's gonna get the white one. He's the latino or in a diverse town to the thing. I mean we can walk out the door and you might run into eight different kinds of second. You walk out thick thin fat skit. A lover here on the show you know. Why is this show it is. It's a show love. David come back. Sometimes laura voice to care lou. What do they call it. What do they call that. Era trump thinking of the word. Describe it. i can't think of it when you could work. yeah. I don't know. I think it would later. What this. oh this. Isn't the song now. it's okay. Well we tokyo yet. Is this that dino twenty mullet you see his picture it's just playing the music is it. Little it is. There is no question about it. Little feathered deported down the middle feather my hair. I think i'm going to. I'm going to go get extensions anybody out there. I'm looking for extensions. Advertising extensions did i really am. Are you guys gonna trip out. When i showed up we do. Yeah what you forget knit. Yeah exactly exactly sean here. Lila's extension gotta do it. I do it. I tell you this. Starting october first one doing. I'm between now. And then i'm going in search of the new house. I'm gonna crush kids in a fun way at halloween. But i i come in here. I'm going. i'm going shopping when i go shopping. I'm wearing now that mass i. I'm not making fun of the other mass. But i'm gonna walk in with. Mike myers mask with my son. Myers because somebody did they. Yesterday in galveston got arrested. Why that's all. I can come us walking around with a knife but he also is out there when hurricane hilda was hitting or whatever it's called say okay well mine might be a rubber knife gonna have that. Yeah i'm going to carry a seven looking like mike myers. No but i am going to. I need i need a costume. I need the mask. I'm getting the burger king guy. I'm going to get the burbank. Free kids out. I'm telling you. I'm gonna walk behind him when they're up asking for candy. I'm gonna walk into grocery stores. Or don't it's on a saturday morning where a vorhees i'm telling you what's the dude with the long fingers. What's that guy's name in your dreams already. i'm doing. i'm doing on the website. Graham did do it the whole month there was doing the whole frigging month. And i'm going to be that guy that walks down the freeway with a krueger mass on people looking like who's this big six five clown. I'm telling something. Get the mask doing it all doing it all i might be. I might become into a house near you on the your address. Good on the show. I used to work for remember when they used to do the steel of still a taco. Oh yeah yeah so one of the guys that used to work with he wants the taco bell. Gotta talk went to his car. Changed at twelve different outfits or got twelve different. Free take album had like different mass. And he all went along with it to he went in as like a cloudy started talking when it is a mad scientist. I'm working at jack in the box. I all they do. You don't have to keep making that effort twenty-five tacos you've made the effort here you go to treat on us but i am. It's going to be a fun month now. Going in cashed in on my and the music is going to be outside my pad. Could they be halloween music. You know thinking about doing now that require. I would love to like kind of dress up for halloween. Yeah plus the prices on that stuff. It's nuts it is to get a good one still got. I still have to replace. Glass shower door. Gotta fix a sheriff. Those kids still don't know how much people are trying to charge me for that. I think brooklyn you. It's got it's got tarp on it. It was just fine. They want to charge me six hundred dollars six hundred dollars for damn piece of glass. I'm not paying you six hundred dollars per glad. Always got the pete. Rose joe dimaggio option where you can you know what the old school we pull the handle down when they're in vietnam and pete rose said Joe damange said described. joe maggio and pete rose several. Let me he was in vietnam with me goes well let me just put it to you. Real simple jomaa. Gio seen him. Naked is a A penis with a man hanging off it. Like marilyn monroe. I get it now. I understand. sportstalk seven ninety. Let's get that glass fixed. Okay but yeah. I agree with your priorities. Halloween's more important than you. Taking a shower without stepping on glass. Okay there you go going. What's your address. You got your address right. Come over to the house with my phone number. Nine one one sportstalk seven ninety up next. Trench is with chris. Gordy andy clue. Big sarge followed by the matt. Thomas show with ross matt doing double duty like crazy. Appreciate him in the eighteen this afternoon. For heavy t. mc and for you guys. we don't ever take for granted. I'm sean be safe out there. We'll see in about twenty hours to white women at.

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Championship Sunday, Carlos Correa Wants To Be An Astro For Life, Texans Head Coaching Search, Best Country Music Song Of All Time

The Sean Salisbury Show

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Championship Sunday, Carlos Correa Wants To Be An Astro For Life, Texans Head Coaching Search, Best Country Music Song Of All Time

"The quarterback crenshaw salisbury. This is the sean salisbury show. Yeah sure as hell is. Sure the is you guys. Don't listen in. i will not you knock us down and don't listen. I will come to your house. I will start chewing on your kneecap and attending. You may nakas down again. And i'll have to get you to listen and get you out of bed. Fifteen minutes later and it will start chewing on the other kneecap you to all the way dan campbell. If the texans street watson i might start rooting for the lions. I feel like dan. Campbell belongs in a motorcycle goatee rocking. Eve might be a member he might be. he's one of the sons of anarchy. Could be i mean could be just felt very motorcycle guy in there like he had to go to it was like he's a he's a biker. Like he'd ever addresses formerly and he had to go get saddam to a suit on and everything. Yesterday he was audited. Jc penney before the suit off had not shirt on a leather vest over the top touted up. Yeah dan campbell. My and then we'll just we're just gonna listen to your kneecap off did this. Here's the message. Here's the best i want to say. Now i could tell you this easy to root for a guy like that. Yeah i had some guy on twitter golick. And i were talking. I mean he had said something about Training camp going to be good. I said listen. You know talking about easy to root for rain when you've got a guy like that the leash willing to fight for you for your players and get out there and go get after it in a time when well we got to be care. All don't say that players don't respond then some guy. Twitter said well sound fine and dandy but players this day. Don't respond to that bs. I said well guess what. He's the coaches their boss. So it and he's got a six year deal so you might. You might want to respond. He is the boss. And if you don't wanna work and goal goes yup agreed so well let's just for the fun of it. Let's we're going to start your day and this will make you pop out of bed or get your new kneecaps jude. You know what even though we're not detroit. This is way you wake up on. A friday displays has been kicked. It's been battered. it's been bruised. And i can sit up here and gives you coach. Speak all day long. I can give you You know. Hey we're win this many game. I can't that none of that matters. And you guys don't want to hear it anyway. You've had enough of that so excuse my language right. Here's what i do know is that this team is going to take on the identity of this city. All right and the city's been been down and it found a way to get up. It's found a way to overcome adversity right. And so this is going to be built on. We're gonna kick in the teeth art and when you punch us back. We're going smile you and when you knock it down. We're going to get up. And on the way up we're going to buy to kneecap off right and we're going to stand up and then it's going to take two more shots to knock down all right on the way up we're gonna take your other kneecap and we're going to get up and then it's gonna take three shots to get down and when we do we're gonna take another out of you before before long. We're going to be the last one standing all right. That's going to be the mentality. When he hit the opening cata speaks for hit hit. Hit hit the first sentence of that for me. This place has been kicked. It's been battered. It's been bruised. And i can sit here coachspeak all day. Long there you go. That's houston banners vin bruised. Yes now the key is fight back. Listen what we're not going to discuss. Today is speculation on where to shawn watson getting traded because he's not otto man so i mean jackie's got more power. Well guess what. I think jackie's going to probably trade them. Well then i'm gonna go to the building. I'm gonna punch him right in his head as at i to support pay if he trades to shawn watson i'm gonna walk punch them right in his head. Yeah that really but it sounded good. What if you what. What have you buy a pinata. What if i start. What if i waltz into the complex encourages start chewing on his kneecap. Would you guys do call security. It would be really. I don't think jack wants part of me in a brawl. I'll go all dan campbell on his ass. Good loud glut. Good luck that nine may. He's you're gonna win that you're not even going to be dead two minutes really go over there and do that i. I'd you know. obviously. I'm kidding when i say over and punch him and his head but the thought would cross your mind. If you traded watson among other things right he ended up was why we're here to do. I go over there and challenging dual dual like a sword fight now no with guns all at gunfire watching a movie of the night and he used to be able to challenge into a dumyat. Go out in the middle of the we that dirt road right across the street from the slough right there on curve the cabinet that go inside the astrodome or at their right audience. That's true if seats are a lot of the shots you fall down you'll blow out your knee or something because the turf the old. The old school turvy. Nobody wants to you. Don't even want to do all of that because it might hurt your legs worse than the bullet would hit you right. Yeah so you ought to cap. Somebody's ass if trade watson. I'm just saying like why do i'm. I'm curious why. We can't challenge people to duels anymore. Aren't gonna your stop. That's a fair way to do it. Right yeah cheap shot. There's gonna be a lot of people would like to challenge brought a knife. What would you say to fight. This is the easiest whenever so they'd cable started board out so get up. Let's go but we're not going to the speculation he and can traded. Now he can't. I hope you're right. I think. I think it's time to take fodder across the country. Now may be upset. Yeah i just i mean. I don't doubt that at all if there's no way it's not happening. You're him right now and you hear the latest report. The jackie got more power than we even thought aren't you aren't you more pissed off. Aren't you wanting out even more. Yeah but i would already speculated if i was him or anybody else that that was the case because all the moves that have been made pre us discussing this today. Yeah that jack. The jack has more power than even we thought when villa. Brian was shoved out the door. Or when the new gm was hired. Or so. if that's the case then you're going to reap what you sell at some point I'd still i. I just think it's regardless of what goes on and listen the longer this goes on. There's only two candidates there. There's three but it doesn't sound like tables one of them. There's only two candidates left higher and they're both playing on sunday. Yeah listen incredible. This team has gone from being the first team to fire their coach. The why why did because of that rule that you have to wait for the team to be eliminated the dumbest roles in football. Hey they went through the process. The first rounds of it and didn't they could have interviewed eric. Airbnb and person right now. I know they didn't have their gm yet right but come on baby. You still couldn't hire him right to your limit. Yeah so maybe they already know but to me it comes down to. I think it's pretty the longer this goes the put it this way. If these teams Well to one of them put it this way. You'll know if all of a sudden team losing we started here speculation. Leslie frazier is going to be hired if buffalo loses its in that afc championship game. That i believe the coaches coming out of. Yes and if there's no higher next week then you'll know the other guy that's playing point that's just the way it is and then you can start to piece together. How you're going to about this. At some point rap porter somebody reports say like. They did with dan campbell during those while. He was playing that as soon as they get done. He'll be hired. Yes that's that's going to happen and so hopefully. The coach you know puts a stop to the nonsense. The talk about this watson. But i'm not like i said we've gone over every scenario. There isn't one where you'd want to trade him. They're just isn't stupidity. But just a scenario say. Oh that's a good idea. So there's no naming if you want to call it and telling me something that you think you know or why it's going to happen then have added. I don't have problem with that. It's it's obviously a topic of discussion. But i think this is more far more smoke about a trade and and less fire i do. There are some kindling. And i know. He's probably upset. And then the lyrics and all in the cryptic tweets but listen. He's toying with the toying with the national media and their mind into it. And i just don't like i said what i got control of the situation isn't as as management. I'm not trading you and that's a compliment to watson because he's so good. I just wouldn't do it so it's i to me. I think it's just all chatter. Now it's it's it's real because guys with the can't be this many insiders that have the information that he's upset ya not be real. Yeah but i don't think it's my point about it. Not being real. Is it the thought that you would trade him. Can't be real. It just can't be it can't be. I know you just can't put. The fact of matter is the only reason this is even a hint. A talk is because this world does not try. This city does not trust. The guys in charge hadn't been shut down by other side. I mean sean. Hasn't come out and said i'm not looking to be set free bothersome. And that's will he's he's up for. He's co clearly contemplating. I both sides trade scenarios a. They've got other things to worry about. Yeah so him. When i say he's the number one priority in the coach but that priorities already sewn up that got him under contract so we're not even discussing that us when i'm talking about is in their front office it'd be discussing it. They should be discussing other things that matter and how to fix the roster you give him a better chance to be on championship caliber team. I believe it's eric vietnamese leslie frazier and both of them have great jobs. If they don't get this job they do you want the job But both of them have great jobs and they will win again. next year. regard matter of fact they're going to win more games next year where they are has assist more than likely they are here. The ability to coach number four and to be a head coach for a one time head coach. And leslie frazier and a guy who's never had the opportunity in eric. Pieta me. that's what we gotta look forward to and we will continue to keep the positive point now if it ever worn a happen. They trade him. Well i'm not gonna say that was the how i met. I was wrong. I'll just sit here and albie soul baffled even if they did it knowing what i know about the front office. I'd still be so baffled. It'd be one of the most shocking trades in my mind. Yeah and since. I've been covering sports i understand. Sometimes when people make trades this one makes at thirty four years old. This one making zero sense right. No yeah absolutely. Wouldn't i sports talk seven. Ninety dan campbell. Wake you up. We'll hear from eric enemy and it's a well. It's football playoff time to the iraqi. I'm always john. Clayton will also to see if Do either one of these underdogs have a chance this weekend. Everybody's lov yeah well we'll probably we'll discuss why we think the underdogs do have chance. It's sports talk seven ninety. It's a friday at six. Am get up. Let's roll list. You want your kneecaps chewed off sports. Stan shackle neil i love. I love the diesel. What was he doing in his interview last night. Man we've got that cringe-worthy. I saw it this morning. I was awkward interviews. I just. I don't and i love shack. I just don't understand when somebody agrees doing interview in that situation. You we'll play i. It's really weird. Odd sportstalk seven ninety charles. Barkley you guys thought. I put on some wasting my playing days. Usually sean sahlins borough are now back to the sean barra shown knucklehead Labeled this right. Is that right country music friday. We're going into the weekend. Football's almost over. Let's let's enjoy life. You got any whiskey in studio today. I got plenty of back in my apartment more early to be drinking. It's five o'clock in the mountain time zone. It's five am out. Hey that's fine earliest i've ever on. It's five eighteen earliest. I've ever had a drink. As part of the state of texas is in the mountain. Time zone to el paso. There's not an hour in the day in your lifetime. You haven't had the you weren't didn't have a drink at some point nine in the morning six in the morning twelve at night one in the afternoon at every hour of of a day. You've had a drink in that our at some point in your life. I'm probably i'd said alone the you're going to break in the morning. You're you're drinking for the morning on an all nighter in vegas solid vegas. Yeah i've done like three six o'clock in the morning tailgate and in a college. Campus drinking bloody marys. When you're getting ready to go to name get go come on l. bloody. Mary showed i thought was going to am. I the drive in from here up there in the morning. And you know you as you do like a dad. Does you bring in you. Bring a box of the goods form right. So they're waking up after they've been doing their fun thing northgate the night before and you're there the open and they don't lock their doors. You know you just gotta walk it. Yeah everybody on their nice house right next to campus. It was awesome. I'm like man. I wish i had a house like this what i was going to college. You go ahead. There strode in their bedrooms. You know you just sit on the couch. Gotta turn start drinking and i'm not. I'll tell you what. I'm not is a beer guy at six in the morning. Yes that's my. It's the beer. But and i know some people like mid-eighties probably mmc guy. I don't even know mimosa. I don't do a hangover like an hour. After drinking the champagne part of that's not good so you can get it smacks if you need. It came later today. I tyler bloody mary every hour at some point in your life. You've had a drink. Every hour of the day i guarantee you. I'm not a pro bowl at eight in the morning. Oh yeah but sitting there waiting for those them to wake up on a college game day. You're getting ready to go and tailgate over there at. Am and they're getting ready to play alabama or something it's like they're up seven o'clock in the morning and then you have to stop and get like forty seven fifty breakfast sandwiches for them and all their buddies. I trust me. I know i've done. It saves una caps. Turn on the tv and half hour later but use subtle pop out of the shower. Come rolling out. His buddies are come then. Somebody walks in the door and before you know it it's seven thirty and you're you're too deep and they they all pop you know kids will and there'll be an open bottle for the night before of like the of the of the gut rot. What's that stuff called fireball. Oh yeah will get you. Dow drinking my. That's that's my favorite thing. I know i don't ever really drink it. But that's my favorite thing to take when we're skiing. Oh yeah because it's so hot use. Yeah you take a shot of it when you're going and you're like oh every go go and then go down. You feel pretty good. You go faster than you did before. That's exactly right so you had his five o'clock somewhere a matter of fact it isn't it. Five o'clock doesn't matter if it's a repeat but it is five o'clock just for jit just mentioned one of our peeps here in houston bill. Brian is now the offensive coordinator in alabama. Listen fifteen years ago or so this would have been exactly the higher you would have expected from nick. Sabin yeah buttoned up veteran due at the the bill. O'brien way. now. Maybe i and i. I'm curious what i'm curious. What kind of recruiter. Bill is honestly because that's important. Nick sabin although alabama's gotten to the point now where you recruit them instead emma chubut now. I'll tell you what the parents will love bills ryan. Why because a walk into a house and he'll be the mo you the truth is you got to recruit. The parents is as well as you. Recruit the kit. Yeah it'll be buttoned up. And and then some people say we'll we'll kind of offense should have run. That's what god town you. That's kind of a question from a recruiting standpoint. They've taken pretty big hit as alabama from the. They'd lost sark. Who does pretty well. And they lost the running back for. Everybody says they're best recruit over the last couple years. They've lost guys loosely right. I mean they don't do you want to win. A national title are being the mix to do where you're going more of us jump to. We're going to alabama so bill o'brien. I'm anxious to see what the because gordon that goes to a team is going to run his stuff now. The truth is the truth. Now for nick saban's past. He loves this. Y'all dude i've talked about the old and says okay we're gonna. What are we going to win. We're gonna win twenty four three. We're gonna run. It mixes a little play action through. Yes all there's no question this. If you didn't know what's happened over the last scene owes kiffin sarkisian and all the way offenses have changed. And you said this. Is nick sabin. Fifteen years ago this is. This is his higher perfect hyphen. Yeah and bill. O'brien comes out and suddenly innovative flying offense. What the hell we're the hell was this for years in houston idiot. Where he'll he will but it's not going to be sark's because well guess what he if you're nick sabin wouldn't you see here's what i would do. Everybody's gonna add their flavor to but when you've got guys on campus already have a system in there's a part of me that says even they lose people every year there's freshmen and sophomores. That are really good players there. I would say i want to still do. I want to use the same verbiage. Wouldn't you rather make one guy learn it than ninety guys. Yeah see. I've always and then add your twist to bill but we're gonna use this verbiage. This is was the most successful offense they've added. Nick saban's history. Bill you learn this. You're you're s man. You go learn this. I'd rather have one of you have to learn it. In the justice a coach the ninety of my players have to learn it and guys have been locked in now to third or fourth system. If you're a freshman year senior you went from this guy to two years. You know what i'm saying. And now we're two years asarco now with bill. O'brien the complete change. Like oh now and with what maybe depending on how often they're going to let them in the building in the offseason with kobe. Who knows right. So you'd think in odd season like this now you want your offense coordinator to bring in his stuff. But wouldn't you. I know before you hire him. You stick them up on the board and say how are we going to do this. But part of this with what's gone on in twenty twenty. There's a and what you saw. What steve sarkisian. There'd be a part of me that says bill. You can add your twist. Anyone but the verbiage and lingo. We're going to run is what we just add. Because ninety guys we're what continuity here one guy learned not ninety and you're gonna learn what we did there now you call in game play calling. You're just going to have to do what you do. But as far as how we label it and verbiage you gotta go back to school. You're gonna learn what we recalling this. I were tough to do like that. He i mean dumbing down by doing that. If you're going in his in game play calling is what was. His plays weren't bad probably but as in game play calling for years was the key. How will he do like. I've always told you. They all know xs and os. He can listen if you walk into a building. They say. sean. Steve sarkisian offense. Learn the verbiage into now from the key is everybody knows xs and os or coaches. If you don't then you gotta get found out. Oh what's what's an x receiver z. But it's the key is can call plays in rhythm on the side star keys in. Did it boom right in and out of the day. We don't huddle. It's all on you getting eleven guys on the same page but bill o'brien coach to this. This all school looks like all bill. O'brien i mean. This is perfect. Hire for next. Say is is he now. He's also getting the title of quarterbacks coach. Because don't forget girl quarterback guru guru bill o'brien guru guru. He worked tom. Brady offensive coordinator quarterbacks. Tom brady worked with him. Shawn watson shawn watson just happened to go next level when he was out of the building. Think about think about bill brands that talking about his he got to work with brady and then he gets onto shawn that. Ain't it back and he actually at christian hackenberg burgundy had the best year of his life. Yeah his freshman year at penn state who memory give got everybody's like oh i if hackenberg would have been able to leave by rules. As a true freshman from penn state. He would have been a top five pick he would have been built it a good job with it what year then bill left it so bills really. I mean. He's a pretty good. Nfl quarterback in his in his time. And you'll have some pretty good ones in the second. Nfl quarterback again had his best year when he wasn't there. Yeah he'll have some decent ones that place he's going now alabama so old school next saving or deep down. This is like a nick sabin. This is like perfection for him right. The question is nick made that transformation. I don't like this. Forty point per game. Fifty points a game or score. What he does hate his team gets have thirty one hung on it. Yeah he wants to win. Twenty four to three twenty seven to ten and he'll be missed. Y you give up a touch. And that's him. Yeah he loves up that this almost cringe-worthy we hung fifty. We gave them twenty four. I this is like oh you run. It played a little plaque and run old school. Curl flat combo with set formations. Yeah it ain't going to look the same. Unless of course nick sabin said we're going to run a trick on the goal line with a defensive lineman route trying to run in for a touchdown. I'm in. yeah that's what. Nixon and yeah. He's big. Let's go exactly so there. It is bill. Brian is that gary kubiak. Another tired of this. He's retired after thirty six years. Third time he's retired you. Gary like a boxer said yesterday the other person's retired more than him as is roger clemens. I'm curious to see where gary kubiak next landing spot will be that fifty nine general manager at sixty two sportstalk seventy also check this out. I should've worn shot only cares about cold. Heart back to sean salisbury show on sports talk seven nine hundred question crushing plant one question. This is the big one way. The being question of the day on the sean salisbury. Show sports talk seven ninety. I was gonna throw some of the poll question. What bothered people immensely. If watson wasn't here what quarterback would you want. there was feasible to get. But i don't wanna do that people blue. I don't want to put that out in the universal like you have. I know we're trying to have good vibes here. Look i don't want. I keep saying her be right and you hear him say when he walked in here this morning tyler that he wants watson out. Did you heard that the flat out lying. Why wouldn't you. i don't want him out. I think he will be out when you guys come in. I have your mike's on for me. I hear what you're saying. The first thing he said is. I love the devil. And i want to sean out here. you know what. Why don't you put the record button on next time. And then you can. Actually you know. Make these false claims. it's going to disappear out. Watergate tastes one shock. Gather delete button or the erase button or the blow it up but like this. This message will self destruct like mission impossible. Yeah in in five seconds so i was thinking i don't want to do that i don't and then it hit me and i thought we want to do some fun for fun friday and then it hit me that well. I don't really there certain days when the big one just doesn't that satellite. We're a bulk. Just does it feel. Fill right in today's one of those days. I don't feel good about a poll question. do you have in mind. What am i. Will carlos correa astro for life like he said last night here on seven hundred right. Or here's another one. I had just for all encompassing everywhere. This is the one that actually was going to go with. But i thought well i don't know if people care i think they do because football. Who has a better chance than an upset the bills or the buccaneers that works to a lot of money coming in on the bills. Yep because the mahomes jeter practice again yesterday he's going to play. We all know this. of course he is. There's no doubt. Yeah so. I guess yeah best best chance in an upset bills or buccaneers and will we'll let that right. We'll this on a more national scope today so while we re tweeted out there people go. I believe more going to say the bills. I think that the tampa bay buccaneers have every bit as big a chance upset. I don't either team's going to upset you. Don't know so you're going to stay away from the are picking the preseason. I'm going brady. Who was my pick in tampa bay to go to the super bowl. My have allies tampa bay. Kansas city and actually had tampa bay beating kansas city in the super bowl. My final four was kansas city. Buffalo was kansas city right now. Okay i believe i had. I don't know if it was the saints. Tampa green bay maybe or tampa seattle tampa gone super bowl and i had kansas city. I don't remember when my other. Afc team was maybe pittsburgh maybe or let's see afc west afc. I had kansas city baltimore and new orleans. Oh god who the the. I picked the bucks to beat the chiefs in the super bowl denies. Well we all had the chiefs in the bucks in the super bowl new orleans i had tampa bay beaten as well. So i'm sticking with it our who's the other those are championship weekend. Picks final four so the big one will be better chance of an chiefs over ten for the bucks. You pick the bucks of. She's we all had ravens chiefs or earth. Two of us had steelers chiefs and ravens cheeses. The steelers right yeah chiefs tampa versus forty niners. I had them playing the seahawks way off of the forty niners injury. At least my team all made the playoffs. Yeah yep forty niners now. They want they want watson. I'm sure at a big way but all those that prediction went out the window about when the second all bosses down. Oh kittle gets no. We're not going to get our. Mvp picks right. I picked tom brady. You picked russell wilson. Now it's going to be rest. Aaron rodgers obviously our offense if player of the year that we picked it was a non quarterback. Neither of us getting that right. Either you pick saquon barkley. I picked christian mccaffrey. Well injuries a. I picked barclays offense the player. The how'd that work out. What did he get hurt. In the beginning of the season. Of the second mccaffrey put like three games. Yeah i as a matter of fact they probably the giants and the forty minutes today. Sean stay out of the nfc. Yeah because you'd pick both wanted to go sukhpal to to win the offense player of the year what happens. Everybody gets hurt coach of the year. I was probably a little off. I pick bill belichick. Bruce arians that has a chance. Maybe now maybe. I think it will probably go to stefanski to go to him. He'll will win it interesting. Though about my barkley picked that lasts. What four quarters. Is that what. It was hurting. The second game said yeah. I think it it. Technically five corners forty nine. But at least you know how we make up for like in that pool and when you're making betting is there's a chance of both our teams will be in the super bowl and tantrums if futures. Bet that would have been. I don't know who's going to win the defensive player of the year. I don't even know. Let's last year. With stefan gilmore. You picnic both psychic. Jt one and what happened addict. Both you heard. I had a bad. Nfc your injury. You had a sports illustrated thomas curse type of year. Barkley player the office player of the year boom injured. Because you have any touches he would have had this year in that offense about eight million. He'd just yards. He would have piled up yards. Just like mccaffrey just because you have to give it to them because don't have a lot of other players right injured forty niners in. I'm talking about fifty injuries on that. They missed like two hundred plus games with injuries of players this year. Think i mean. Overall counting all the players yeah combined and then i had both the defense lawyer of the year in san francisco's bosa right now. That injury yet. At least you're like me. I picked the patriots to win. Afc east sorta stupid enough low right. Yeah you. I had buffalo's division why it's good to go have in the nfc. We all had the cowboys and the two. That didn't work out. Well you had the saints in the south had the bucks. We had the packers in the nfc north. We all had the forty niners in the west are wild card for the seahawks saints. I had the bucks everybody had. The eagles are right. So very little bucked. Okay about the afc. Asc we Again of you. Sakes had the bills. I had the patriots I pick the texans like an idiot. Afc south you guys. Pick the colts ravens for both of you and the steelers We all had the chiefs in the west are first wildcard was steelers ravens steelers and then i went we bought you guys went texans and then i had the colts and then the final one was you guys taking. The titans took the bills so in truth seven teams. We've got six of them ryan. How's way off on. The texans predictions are great homer. Michael came through in the clutch. I cannot believe injuries have happened. I i gotta stay out of ticket. Nfc guys because it happened. And i'm telling you. Brady's i'm every team listening i'm calling saying. Don't lead salisbury picks. We're gonna keep him just in the afc. Don't pick our guy in the nfc. Yeah man. I'm telling you but Feel good about brady this week did i do i do. It's he's played in the cold his whole career. I'm not worried about his antonio brown. I am not worried about him. I think that aaron rodgers much better he is he individuals who yeah if tampa bay done run the football thing well and on the other side. They'd better hit aaron rodgers. Yeah which is tough too because all comes out so quick. Yeah ryan will get to you. I know some people want to make some comments on bill. O'brien and what it'll mean for alabama sports talk seven. Ninety gray did say. He wants to be an astro for life wise. Pr move. and i think it's a wise move period and i think it's probably feasible the way what a guy who's grown up in about a year fingers crossed. It happened grown up in about a year. We got playoff talk. Got john clayton today and we'll have some fun. It's a country music. Friday tyler said so so we're going with sports talk seven ninety the poll questions up show. We're going to have to turn this over to sean. More sean salisbury on sports. Talk seven hundred. Ninety seven ninety ryan patient bill. O'brien new offense coordinator and in tuscaloosa alabama crimson tide. You'd say on the surface. Well this looks like a perfect nick. Sabin higher old school nick sabin. The question is nick like to go back to old school. The way he is will. Bill ramp up his innovative playcalling. Or we'll bill o'brien it is nick. Sabin kind of get used to this. Oh i liked the way. Sark does all this stuff. I actually think it probably drives at times a little crazy. Because he's a little more. Sometimes you can't change the way you approach it. He's a defensive guy but when you score that many points it doesn't really matter what defense but that's his baby defense the questions with bill. O'brien what offense will we see ryan welcome in doing. I'm doing well sean. Appreciate you taking my call I'm gonna fill a second question in to get your opinion but do you think the culture do you think bill. O'brien needs to learn and be a student again. Learning the culture of what saving does to prepare him phrase head coaching job all. I don't think there's in question ryan. I think everybody that rolls through nick. Sabin and there's a handful of guys when you roll through there see. I would imagine that bill if it was a job. Let's say bill went to a place that had a first time head coach at had been there a couple of let just for fun. Let's just say he was. Let's say bill was the offense coordinator isla st. I'm just saying this from my. Perception matt campbell. Young been there a couple years hot commodity people around the bigger jobs or lincoln riley who reportedly offered the philadelphia eagles job and turn it down reportedly so and then they have a new coach as well. But you know one of those guys. That may bill thought. Well i'm better than this guy. He's younger. I've been in this league. You know there's that feeling of what is this guy going to tell me that. I don't already know that i would think that some guys who've been in the league along time and bills fairly abrasive now not that he wouldn't learn and be respectful. But you think i'm i. I should be doing this. This is almost to the point. I'm not saying bill. Things like this. That well i this is just a this. Just a stopgap for me. Because i'm a more of a head coach. And what can i learn. Maybe i don't learn as much from those guys or your shut off to a little because you think you're you're you're probably more qualified that that's that's a thought i'm sure some. Go through when you're alter nick sabin or bill. Checker andy reid. There's got to be the reverence that goes with. I'm dealing with the best of all time of what they do. And even when you have a big ego whether it's like kiffin or steve keesing or anybody who rolls through there. If you don't stop down and say i'm gonna learn some of the. I'm gonna take some of my weaknesses and see if it can help them. Steve sarkisian is a better football coach. Having been with nick sabin last two years lane kiffin went in with ego came out ego yes but also great learning experience so i would think that if bill has any clue at all which i believe. He's got some some clue when it comes to football sense xs and os that. If he wants to be another head coach he will. He will ask every possible question and picnic savings brain as much as possible. I would imagine the nick sabin also probably talked to bill belichick and their longtime friends and said what's he liked to have on a staff after even before an interview i would imagine. He did his due diligence because he is a very very obviously attention to detail. Guy saving him and o'brien's one of those guys and it kind of fence personality wise. The question is will the fence game wise and will be willing to learn from the best college football coach of all time. What else for me right now. Real quick you know all these people that they get ready to play allowed stadium. They cranked up music. They pop stuff in to get ready when you could have fan. Yep what what. Can you do to prepare for the weather on sunday for the florida. Boys going up to wisconsin. How does it do that or can you. You can't simulate an ryan can't see can't see me later now. When i was in minnesota we practice outdoors. Get atlanta at this time of year for the playoffs. If we were gonna go play outdoors now there are some there comes a point to or some of the stuff you do outdoors and we go into the bubble because you've got to get some stuff done right and the truth is there in florida. What are you gonna do. Your time is ranked. there's nothing you can do now. We on of op flipside. When we're in minnesota and we'd go play in a hot hot place we would leave cold and like if we were gonna play tampa bay in december. The jerry burns would take us to tampa four day. We practiced for three days. There that happened we got asking on time because we we enjoyed the sub too much but The the opposite. I know we talked about. You can't simulate speed like you're trying to defend lamar jackson. And how does your guy run the scout team like molly doesn't but this is even it comes down to this. It comes down to. is that possible to succeed. It's the truth is this isn't about well. It's five degrees. can you handle it. And you'll see the big fellows without sleeves on and all that is comes down honestly to mental toughness. I but now if the wind's blowing sideways and it's cold then you're gearing up and trying to get like when the when the chargers played that minus fifty nine degrees in cincinnati. Listen you're just you're doing everything can't make four more. Plays the other team and get out. I played in a bone chilling cold so bad one time the t. chattering sidelines that you could not going into halftime was a mistake. You wonder why 'cause you got this false sense of security got warm and had to go out and deal with it again. i'll never forget it. It was like it was cold it was in the meadowlands and it was frigging brutal guys hovering around and but there's a mental far mentally tough. Brady's mentally tough so it is. You've got to gear up. Because there's nothing bruce arians can say other guys. It's going to be cold. We can't deal with the distraction. And i mean we gotta deal with that. We can't let it 'cause it's not gonna be 'cause it's supposed to be what twenty four twenty five degrees overcast podcasts. No truth is honestly if the wind's not blowing and it's a little bit of snow. It's not that bad. It really get going really isn't a win but few yeah yes and it affects the ball if it's not windy and it's twenty five degrees and it'll and snow in the store that comes down. That doesn't make the field fully covered just a steady snow but not one. That's going to put three feet of snow. It's not gonna shouldn't affect them that bad. It really shouldn't so it's ryan onto great. It's to me it's mental toughness and i as a california guy i don't mean is there again. I'm not those guys. But the truth is some of the best games of my life and my career. We're not an eighty degrees or seventy five degrees in door. The best games in my career were either in snow sideways rain and yeah physically grip the ball because my hands but the truth is i don't know why and i'm not saying i'm mentally tougher but i never really let it okay. It's cold it's cold for the other cats. it's gonna be cold for green bay too but they can at least us in it. So i think it's the truth is for the most part as long as windy or rain and sideways. It's just are you mentally tough enough to gut this out and how bad you want it and you know the packers will be ready for and so we'll brady. The question is how i is. is everybody else. But you can't simulate it in tampa no way exactly. And that's why we played golf in forty degree weather in texas unclement not blowing. Still throw doggone jacket on a win. Jack and then go and deal saying he don't texas. It may be wendy too so we'll have to deal with that when you've got to be a low ball hitter. When that wind hits man ran great stuff. It's gonna be fun to see. 'cause there's going to be a little chilly and casey i would imagine to won't be hot so but green bay could be brutal but it'll be fun. It's old school football on grass outdoors. Cold i just wish we could have seventy thousand people there. That'd be fun to ryan. Thanks buddy appreciate appreciate it. Yeah thank you. This is sports sportstalk seven. It is an interesting question. I mean i've seen guys who love it. And i seem guys who just mentally can't handle the cold but i would be twenty-five degrees not wendy. We won't you give moving. That's that you stop bad thinking about now. I'll tell you what's worse is twenty five degrees and rain. The debone not the words. The like the When you've got the humidity cold the were your jerseys wet. It just never stops in the jerseys dry a little bit of snow seen. He's twenty five degrees not windy. Yeah you go up there. It's a little chilly. But once you start playing your minds focused on. I won't get my ass kicked by that. Defensive end i got now. If you're sitting on the sideline that'd be kicker. Keep it yet. come over there. Get warm i mean. Have you put the dog on. Hand warmers and deal with it. But you'd rather seventy two degrees indoors. Now guess what they're not now and it's a trip to be the first time ever. We've had a home team play in their home stadium and the super bowl tampa bay buccaneers. That they can pull this off the wild yup sportstalk seven ninety hour number two coming up next. Sean sows ratio. Four main avail quarterback. John sounds multi french very. This is the sean salisbury. Show sportstalk seven ninety. So you to be an astro for life. I would love to be an astra for life. I'm an astros fan for life. They're not going to lose me. I can tell you that. Unless they hired jack easterby to run things which i know what they were. John crane's talk. They're getting rid of out. Two bregman in korea. Jim cranes not that stupid. For forty eight draftengine. Jim crane smarter than that. Yeah i would imagine that that would that would even turn you off. Did you can never turn on the astros. You could never do it. No jack easter becoming in the trade and if they ran the ship the same way that the texans were and it was that bad. Yeah like i could get trust me. I mean i watch during the hundred lost seasons as much as anybody but that was because they told us this was going to happen and they told us the plan. And i was like i. I mean i knew what was coming. You did yeah. Transparency fan. And i appreciate it. I didn't care that they're going to go out and lose baseball. I'll watch baseball. I'll watch the texans. They're bad hell. I watched them but they're liars and they tell me stuff that's just not accurate all the damn time. So that's why it's easier to say if they do this. I'll quit them whole. You will quit. But i would love to ask for life. What is it going to get. Let's say what's he gonna get paid when it comes down. The pike carlos yeah. We're brian lima and lima. I think it's going to be at least twenty. Five million dollars a year george springer just twenty five million dollars. Yeah i think it's gonna end up closer to thirty george springer tuesday closer to thirty five know that six years five years and he wants to do not gonna go to do a team even so the team a favor and they're willing to do that if if you could get him for twenty five million dollars a year. I do the ten year deal. Twenty five to fifty. Yeah i think if that number in terms of the average annual out annual average average annual value at a v which matter your luxury tax that would like lemay you just did for the yankees taking a longer deal for less per year right the end of your career. You're still making big money when you're not at least wouldn't think you would be. That's the issue with careers is he is he. Is he going to be healthy now. Twenty six or they would take him to thirty six thirty seven years old. So i would have no issue giving me like ten years to ferry. He's twenty six. It'd be twenty seven. They ended the next season ten years to fifty. Well he's only gonna be about a quarter of what i'm making tonight. Would i went powerballs true. I'm saying but he's probably doing. I know he's doing pretty well from his endorsements he's gotta beat is what i went. Nine hundred seventy million without even having the uplifted revenue coming in while billion they'll be a lot less work. Yeah filming yeah. I'm on the billion. So carlos makes to fifty i make a billion he's gotta go to work and hit three hundred. Been a bunch of home runs and wind if you went today instead you'll give them financial. We'll give you fifty. He take it. No i think he would. I think he want more. I think it. I think to fifties enough. It just depends on the number of years because look at the guys that are getting ready to hit. The market mentor is the most. But he's not getting the market. The mets didn't trade for him to let him hit the fridge. I wouldn't think so. But he's getting at least three hundred million dollars right. He's getting a mookie. Betts type of deal no question any and quite frankly deserves these great player. Great player trevor. Story free agency l. Of a story when he gets paid the question with him is he going to be dang by the coors effect who is it. I just wonder larry ones getting at least one hundred fifty million bucks nova big cat got hit though man. He's no golan on and otto he just strikes out a lot. He's a way better player last year than i've as of a hell of a player. Yeah he ain't getting linda twenty eight. He gave just turned twenty eight. Hold on hold on. Did you say that. Trevor story is better than nolan are not said. He had a better year last year. Aaron terrible last season in the sixty going based off lobster. Saying i'm yeah that's all i no air does the better better player not last year. Last year yeah. He's not getting lynn door money but should get two hundred million probably. Yeah but somebody lindores get three bills. Lindores getting us three. I don byas from the cubs. A free agent. I don't know what he would get but he's gonna get big money. Cory seager is also free agent big money. Here's a quick. How many of these guys get to the market story. Unless he gets traded somewhere before the season starts think it's a lawsuit or no. I don't know the dodgers. why would you. They've apparently they've got is another minor. Leaguers things going hitching. They were looking for right handed bat. But he's so good though. I know he is. But you know what's crazy about them. There's always taught eligible to make a decision on soon. Would you keep bellinger singer bingo but the injury history but terrified me right just like it is the same thing no doubt Do the infielders with power are really important thing right. Yeah play power. Think about them. The guys that are getting to me just named a bunch of guys that you're talking about power and get paid because they bring their good on the defensive side but bring power at the plate today. Yeah i mean think about at some time. We're gonna have like a six eight stop. We we get for create craze all six four. Yeah and segers a big dude to yes. I mean they're low these guys we get some now lindores not but he plays big power. Lot of pop so yeah. I don't know what if ten years for two hundred and fifty million korean today. Take it i think so. I just know. Would you be insect going into the season. You know how like before the let us thinking long long-term right. Yeah and he said they come in. And do you think players mind and i know it does exist. I don't know about his mind but it does exist. There's always the well. What if the mvp. But there's also yeah crazy willing to bet on himself all right but also would if i get hurt and what happened right. Had more often the regular season this past year. I know it's a sixty game season but the numbers weren't good. I will tell you this if in fact your korea and you're right if you're looking at the history of it whether it's injury if they game with two fifty take secure take it take the security and he's also clearly comfortable. His wife is from the state of texas right. They love the city of houston. He's would i do truly believe that cray is genuine when he said what he said last night. Gay and all. I do too. And why wouldn't he. I mean it's texas. Yeah said his girls from here. And i'm a lot more of course and in. Here's the thing too. So as far as an every player was just so folks now there's a lot of bravado that goes on with professional athletes. I'm going to talk about it. I'm all of them but there's also what they don't know at times that guy's not afraid of every single athlete. I know that's been any good. There's a hint of. They may not let you see it. But there's a hint of what drives him as the insecurity would. If it's what if i sucked. Yeah this year. One of i have an injury so there is that because if he goes out and hurts his back again fifty no he he's dominions value goes down. I don't know what he'd get it right because you going. And looking at it like your nurse consistency. Basically since the twenty seventeen season. And why would you invest in right. And you'd say well. Is there some damaged goods. If he's hurt again right. You should concern yourself that this is a trend that you concern yourself with. We don't know how james click operates. Carlos correa does not get an extension done either during the season before. He won't be here next year. That's a stone cold locked. Michael brantley is like the first free agent. Basically they'd let let get two free agency that they've kept all jim cranes tease out. Yeah it won't be. Hey go and then you stick around. Let go without that deal. He's gone yeah he'll be playing somewhere else but there is that insecurity and like nothing but all it all athletes it says even the best of the best is good as mahomes. Is you know why he signed five hundred million dollars because it's five hundred million dollars. Sure even though mahomes could sit here. And say i may win the mvp. Open them all jump. All over my. What's wrong taking the security right. Nothing yet there had some people are subdued. Why do that when three or four years from now you can get another takes a hit the other day that bingo there you go and so carlos screen like i said is part of me. That would think he'd think i'm more three hundred of course but when you sit there and take dude parlay this out two hundred fifty million plus all the other stuff you get you get end up making with endorsements at three hundred million bucks county your shoe all the stuff you do write it ends up. He's end up taking over the course of the high end on career with two fifty quarter between tuned to fifty. It just depends on the years. Right tenured yeah. Like if he finished doing a six year deal mean hundred billion. I think the twenty five million dollar per year where you gotta be looking sure and less years. He's probably gonna say little more money right more years come you know. There's also the uncertainty of team spending and all this stuff like coming out of a pandemic sure the time to jump bypass truly want to keep them this the time to do it. I think george got more money than people think he was gonna do coming out of a pandemic i do. Yeah and he also probably got about got a lot less than he would have if the parole half. I'm saying from what i heard from people's like going into last season before the coronavirus. If he thought he was going to match at least what anthony rendong got on the market when he got there and his agents both in as it was going on remember we were saying on this show man the the value the market may not be there for him but he got more than we thought he give out of corona virus and less than people thought he'd get headed into corona virus makes sense right sports. Talk seven hundred and astro for life. Thank how the narrative shifted on him in just a year that man in just a year in a year ago. You're thinking well should we. We were bantering remember. What if somebody makes an offer would you move him. Is it going to be here. Well he wants to be an astro for life. We'll stick it out next. it's sports. Talk seven hundred. This is the sean salisbury show. His name is short. Sean really on sports talk. Seven ninety sean woody here not there now the cells berry stakeout on the sean salisbury. Show alright heavy team figured it out on a country music friday. Don't screw it up. What's up brother. So you mentioned earlier that it's most likely gonna be leslie frazier. Eric be enemy. Who is going to be the head coach of the texans. My question is simple considering the way they hired nicosia as a wildcard pretty much. That wasn't recommended. What are the odds that they do the same thing with their head coach and it's an out of left field higher that no one saw coming. I would say deals it. I'd say decent odds. I mean you know what would be even crazier they hire somebody from one of those two staffs and it's neither one of those guys. Can you imagine. It's not frazier or enemy. It happens be dave bowl or mike. Casca the quarterback coach. Could you imagine. God that could you imagine. Listen in truth would shock. You know if you woke up on. Let's say after afc championship weekend in nfc championship. Weekend on monday. This week and tampa wins and kansas city wins and they don't hire from either one of those teams and all of a sudden. They say they made a late switch and they decided to hire doug peterson he's taking up. Here comes mark daniels right. You'd be like it could not surprise you in this town. With this franchise i would. I would be willing to bet with. I can't fathom that anybody doesn't know the room so blatantly. Good painted it. Somebody would be so bad. Put understand in the room that after all this now like i said if they if there's four guys you're considering that they pull off the oh what you did what you hired who would not put it past them. But i can't fathom that anybody at this stage of the game would be crazy enough after what you've been through arrested. Wake up now. If you told me i woke up on this weekend and they just they woke up and said you know what we decided. We got a late interview with lincoln. Riley he took the job. I'm just on his name out because there's teams have wanted him. I would not have a problem with that now. People say it's a college coach. But i i got visions of leave stuff lincoln riley getting his hands on Playcalling with the shawn watson. I do that would be. I would be frigging aussie saucy. Yeah it really would so yes. I can see that if you were going to go. If you're gonna go out of this world higher do something like that okay. But i firmly believe that the reason. I think that i would hope. Common sense is kicked in at some point that were saying the reason why this is still not happen is because that guy. Now let's i'll tell you okay. Perfect one that you're talking about would be todd bowles. That was going to be next question. Todd bowles were sitting here thinking leslie frazier defensive coordinator eric vietnamese offensive coordinator people stop the well. He doesn't call the play that we see that all the time. All the time you got you guys got to get over that. John harbaugh ever called a play in his life. Defensive coordinator he's head coach. We sweep the philadelphia. I mean philadelphia's new head coach the the dan campbell. You're talking about these guys. Don't call place. It happens. All the time frank reich didn't call place when he took the job with the indianapolis colts when he left. He was a calling the quarterback coach and offensive cordwell early. D filipa was the quarterback coach. Frank was the offense coordinator but doug called the place and so we we gotta get out of that. Well we need somebody you know you actually. Don't you need a great leader. They know. I don't care about the coach call and we. Bill call the plays forever higher. You know what in eric being he's quite capable you sit there and and and been ab read. Listen everything andy. Reid set for years. Call place i don't worry about it. I need to lead and do all that stuff. So todd bowles. That could be that wild card. You're talking about Did he interview. Todd bowles texting. Yeah well that's the one you're talking about had interviewed yet. Pull off a late one sneaky interview. They if they were to lose Is he an play if they're gonna win if it came from being kansas city loses and they still haven't heard the enemy higher then you say well it comes down to a buffalo or tampa bay person right. So do i think it could happen. Yes do i think it's going to happen. No i firmly believe eric reid. Leslie frazier will be the coach. But this is the texans and sanity may not rain supreme when they make this decision doesn't mean todd bowles wouldn't be good but i think why wouldn't airbnb be hired why that don't tell me all the reasons why he should be hired. Tell me why you should hire him all the reasons why you should be hired. I don't know many. Why shouldn't that's what you gotta tell me. So yes i do believe. There's a slight chance that we could be like. But i don't think it's a big chance i think it's gonna go. They're finally going to make a decision where people say. Think about it. They were late to the party on the enemy. And maybe this has been wishful thinking. I don't have any inside information. I'm talking to the enemy about this. Andy read or anybody. It's just my perception over common sense when hiring a candidate but when it shocked todd bowles or somebody snuck in late and got the job. I just using him as an example. Because he's still playing or somebody that they've interviewed like data colin for from somebody. They like what we like instability. It's a safe higher. Let's go there ripe. Meaning it's a under a. What's the word i'm looking for. Just kind of blah higher underwhelming. Yeah underwhelming could be. Yeah it could be. But i'm gonna say it's one of those two guys. I still believe in eric. The enemy is gonna be the head coach. Here and to shawn watson is going to be. Here's your quarterback and you're going to be all this offseason talk is gonna get settled All the season talk off season for the taxes get settled. at least. that's probably more. That's more hope than knowledge when it comes to who the higher. Because i don't think any of its trust the front office outside nick caserio. I hope nick caserio gets the the the majority of the in this. But i don't know if he will. Yeah hopeful but were absolutely. I tread lightly on this house at tread lightly What do you got for me. rockets last night they make a trade for kevin porter. Jr. will be in the league because of his alma mater went to usc was with the cleveland. Cavaliers rockets trading a future second round pick. That is protected for him. He's being traded because it's not played this season. He's been a little bit of a nutjob at different he had a. He went nuts recently when he showed up in the cavs moved his locker to an auxiliary area because they acquired somebody else and he hadn't played yet lost his mind. Apparently this go. It's worth taking sure greatest risk. What's the risk a little bit of you guys. His baby the screw the baby. The lights aren't fully on. They flicker a little bit at times. There's a bunch of those guys in the league. Yeah it's not like you're you're not risking a first round. Pick on him. Yeah and he's got some skill set. You saw them in se. I go watch. the highlights. dude is a fricken frequent athlete. How did player on anybody. He's got mad hops and he's hell of a player. He's a lefty right. It's not quite the same effect as left. Handed pitcher nice. It's it's it's the he's the new james harden. He's no harold miner. Stick it in a new james harden. Here never baby harold minors. They nicknamed him baby. Giornale feel very well now. Sure to good the other very good college player but probably heavy t and mc chance. Porno wins the mvp this year because of his alma mater. We're basketball school. Gingras graduate alma mater. True it's a word what school is truly signed. A letter of intent played. Hey let let me tell you something. You put the ball back there. I got news for you would you. Would you go to sc. Throw it all the records on the basketball court. Because i mean what you think. Se basketball honestly. Don't you think duke kentucky carolina. I mean it's blood program. Sure villanova now. This is a this. Ucla bad move by the way for Not a big risk. That's for. Everybody is hoping for a return of gerald green. Probably not going to happen there either. Yeah yes look the risk the put it this way. The rewards more probable than the risk doll has. If you if it doesn't work out then you just. He averaged ten points. Last year is a rookie per game in his one year at usc nine but at talented guys. While was the first round pick average points. He was expected to be a lottery type right but he. He's got a couple of screws loose. Unfortunately maybe more than two hopefully did the rockets can get that allen wrench or whatever wrench out you know. Tighten them up. Yeah you want the you want the electric screwdriver. Yeah yeah i got you. I got you you. You don't want to it by hand. Okay but the listen okay. The risk is done work out. Guess what you do. He got right. If it does work out you gotta talented player. And and maybe coach silence gets too many to be recognized that first round talent and at one point you said lottery pick type talent. Yeah but it's skilled player so we'll see how that works sportstalk seven ninety you guys think. Let's let's talk over some afc nfc title game stuff. I mean it's a bummer. That all fans aren't going to be there. There'll be some but in some of those games last week it was loud. It really was. The nfl just announced that they're going to twenty two thousand super bowl twenty two and tampa for the super bowl. Or the buccaneers will crown. Tom brady super bowl champion in his home stadium. Sports talk seven ninety. Sean is the judge who sits on high has the final. Say on all disputes. Back to sean salisbury. Show on sports. Talk seven ninety drain thang more. United of heavy t. Let me start here with you. I know it's not the texans but it is. This is a big week in football. I mean we're talking about sued by no with all the pandemic and lack of fans. It's kind of feels almost as anti-climactic the word says the energy may not feel the same because the buzz people aren't going to the super bowl for the most part two thousand two thousand fan. Yeah radio all those things right. It's obvious i mean. We felt that in every sport but it still football. We've got four of them. Well the four quite frankly is four as as good a four quarterback stairs in the planet this year. Where long. Along with watson and wilson at times and we've had guys who had their moments but these forecasts are really good. Make no mistake a big reason. Why these four teams are here right. So let's go roll through it. I'm going to reserve my pick to later. John clayton will join us. We'll go through part what we're going to go through john. Clayton has one key on each team and why that team's going to win so heavy t and mc. Let's discuss. I'll give a roundabout thing. I'll save that for four downs. But i'm gonna give you guys the opportunity. Why will the tampa. Bay buccaneers win. The game Heavy t start with you. Because it's tom brady. He knows how to carve up defense. He's played in the cold before he ever since they had that embarrassing loss to the saints on sunday night football that thirty eight to three loss. They've been on a tear and they've been ripping everybody apart i. I don't want to see him win. Because i'm sick of him. Winning at as a falcons fan. I hate tom brady because of what he did to me but i could see him winning like i said just it's cold outside. He's he's used to this. He's used to the big games fourteenth. Afc title game. And what's his record in. Like nine four. I think nine and five a. There's a very good chance is gonna win this game to me. It just comes down to like. I said earlier. There has to be the the tampa. Bay's running the football tampa football. And i don't think they have a chance. Braise numbers have not been great in the playoffs in these environments that have been i mean they Too really good defenses green. Bay's got a decent enough defense is i. Don't think it's as good as the first two faced obviously and the playoffs but They run the football. Consider whether it's joan. I mean if they have one guy. That's of that rock. You saw the the sustained drives. They're able to have against new orleans at times where you fifteen sixteen plays like. They're doing that. They can win the game. Because i don't think that they're going to hand the ball. The tom brady and say hey bud we need you to go in this football game us. He's not going to do that as he if he's the go and he's still got all of his he's still got it all. There's just if they're one dimensional that alma chance all right. What if. I told both you guys at both defenses in this game. We're gonna play the best defense. They'd played all year long. who wins. I pick aaron rodgers. because he gets really rattled and inconsistent when you sack him multiple times. Yeah i'd pick errands. you're saying. Think about this now and it and it and it's reset at times this year. Isn't it weird that you're saying that the greatest pocket quarterback of all time. The greatest quarterback of all time gets rattled when he gets hit this year. Well it's shown. Yeah we'd watched it last year. When the texans played them they hit him all night and on that sunday night game or whatever the hell knight was you saw it in kicked his ass. You saw it in both super bowls when they lost to the giants. The giants beat up that patriots offensive line and they got him several times. Yeah that's the whole reason. They beat That undefeated patriots team in the first place. Plus i thank Aaron rodgers also has some bulletin board material because one of the backers For tampa bay was talking about their first meeting. This this year and he said Then guys didn't deserve to be on the field with us so that and he's going to scorch that defense alive. I would think that the chances of it being like it was the first time For aaron rodgers. That defense now. That doesn't mean they can't play as well. But aaron will play place bad that makes sense so both even okay Brady has his best game of the year. Rogers has his best game that they play like the mvp. The league and both defenses played their best. Packers win still pack. I like the packers run game better than the bucks run game. I liked better than the packers defense. That's fine. I just think that if you get the if you're getting the best game i mean so all air rogers the difference. He's the better quarterback this. There's no doubt yeah. We're currently playing. And he's playing in his environment. He's literally playing like a man possessed. So you'll be shocked. If the buccaneers win now going to be shocked with daycare capable of winning. But i don't think it's like it's to me it's to me it's an easy pick to say packers win vs there's an right. Think about this three and a half points right on the road the buck nearly three and a half last. I saw home gives you three points. It's cold and the resident. So basically the oddsmakers think this is like a pick em. Yeah that's weird like part of me wants to see brady go and get back to another Picked in the preseason. Yeah i know but the other part of me you know what we've really had aaron rodgers and super bowl once i want to see him play another super bowl. I like aaron rodgers. A lot as much as you're not supposed to like other teams and other players. All i enjoy aaron rodgers game so much and i would like to see him play in one more big game at least because i don't want he's he's one of the best ever do it. I've seen brady a lot so And in the other game buffalo via but wouldn't it be Push this a little further do we. We know both belt. Bella check and tom brady. They don't say it out loud. There's an eagle that says who is more important to the success of the important I've i've known all is bella. Checks best ever. They'll check didn't make one throw right. Well board said this year. He goes to tampa franchise of hasn't been in this situation well for years. And they're a gameboy from being a super bowl. Bright dallas cowboys twenty seven years since the last time they were in the nfc championship game. Is that correct. Am i right about that in the nfc or wait in the last twenty seven well in just under thirty years. When's the last time there. An nfc champ game aikman had to because got four all right. We'll see ninety five ninety five. Two thousand five fifteen twenty seven years in twenty six twenty seven years right. Don't long time. He's been in the nfc one year and he's already they're they're in the title so it just goes to show you the import so i'll ask you this. Will everybody stop the nonsense as good as bella check is if tom brady were to get to a soon. Ninety five was the last. I've been to get to the super bowl and win will or are they already saying it because we're brady has them. Would we be able to say unequivocally. Will people say it was tom more than bill. I think that you should be saying that you i say yeah i mean it's busy. Yeah i mean i he but that's part of who when you're the go like players follow you there. They had a goat right. Think about like the the free agent process again for brady. It's amazing you heard about so many teams. We're not really brady. We're not really an upper eighty. We're not we don't want this like why. Why weren't you in. Tampa bay was foam at the mouth for it. And you see the guys. They're playing for the super bowl more teams that need that were in that stuck in the middle that could have chased him like why more teams go after him. I don't understand year. Yeah and if it's three years and you get one super bowl that's just going to the super bowl worth it. No questions so title. You feel different about brady ballot. Check thing bella. Check can have the greatest playcalls of all time. But if you don't have the right quarterback is not gonna work so i it's brady over ballot check belt and i have the utmost respect for him i. It's brady is it. is it ll flora rogers. Thou one's more roger. Because it is as good as good as andy reid is. Is it more eddie. Read or more pat homes that one. Andy reed's big. But i'm just telling you right now. That one i think is more fifty fifty because smith pretty good. He was doing the same thing. Donovan mcnabb mcdavitt. He's gotten the he's gotten the braith talent that right. he's he's gotten he's got he's got. Yeah i mean this guy is stupid right right. it's a it's a well like brady and belicheck. It's like the perfect mix right. Yeah that bill got brady at the right time. And andy's like oh my gosh. This blessing fell into my lap. We've traded up again but we got this cat. Yeah boy it makes my job a lot easier right. If you're andy reid. That probably arguable. But when all is said and done it'll be tougher to win a super bowl without a well. If chad henne start this weekend the is god. Bless him for the way he played last week. It will be different in the way you approach the gabe on both sides both teams. But it's going to be mahomes. And i think we know that aren't sports. Talk seven hundred. Continue to discuss. Pick from these guys. John clayton at nine thirty and having fun on a friday a country music friday. Welcome in this is coach. Alderson a goal touchdown. You've got sean salisbury. Show on sports talk. Seven months ago. Kooks let's see if we can get this day right first of all. This is chuck daniels. You ever heard of chuck danielson. Yes you call chucked out. Here's definitely check on chasma. Sometimes all right. Let's do i. Let's see how close i am on this one. What did what did we lose. Charlie daniels you know this. And we've told you this heavy t when it comes to remember when somebody. I can remember what they've done in their careers and all that stuff when it comes to when we lost him when they've passed away. I do not really. I'm not really good at two days to two years ago and it could have been a decade ago. So we like to play this game while also charlie daniels when he got twenty twenty one. I'm going to say chasma. Oh between two thousand eighteen and now in the last few years picked up two thousand nine hundred not bad. It's less than your july twenty twenty. So chuck was that soon yeah. I didn't realize you did be honest with thought happened this past summer. Twenty twenty seating realized. He was dead had no clue. Don't show up his did you. What did you say. I don't celebrate his catalog. Did you got to celebrate the song though this is arguably the greatest country song of all time you can get the hell out. A lot of people would agree with that. No you can open up the phone lines right now. At the best of the best country song ever. This heavy team went hot. Take on them peewit. All max kellerman autumn. All skip bayless on him. He said that this is the best country song of i said arguably debate all right so top three of all time for you. Better be in your top three. I mean this one's at mytalk to think about it. Okay but you say this one. This is best country song of all time. Yeah attitude here with three seven one. Three two one two five seven nine. Do you agree to tell you what charlie daniels and the devil went down. If you agree this is one of the best country songs of all time. Hit me up at the board up on. Twenty five calls ed address. That's also so you'd want that cred. Here give yourself some shame of public and go for it. Tyler of the board op on twitter. You are funny bad. I great cut. I wouldn't have an argument with. Its the greatest of all time. And i love me some chuck daniels so underplayed the charlie daniels so it happens sooner normally miss it like it was like way back right. Yeah is at least in the decade fair enough with with you know. It's not bad so you're not putting this anywhere near the top country stars among sox socks. Oh my god no serious talks about how you're you're on drugs do not on. The song is not good. What do you think about a fiddle. Would you ever play the you wouldn't would learn to plan. I think it'd be fun. I don't have the tend to spend to do it. But i think it'd be fun. It'd be cool instrument. But yeah i i. I don't know if i'd had the tension span either right affiliate dog affiliate. So you think that sunk suck is what you're saying. Yeah it's it's a bad song. You're stopping a dude. You're on your on so notice. Nobody's calling the backup. Your your claim that it's a crazy person. That's up very early yes. People were listening all a song. Seven fifty one saint early. Do we've been up since three thirty. This is early. I slept in the thirty s morning. Good for you felt right on that car and made that drive right. Yeah gas tank treaty. Now that's all good twenty dubbed three mile drive okay. We got a caller. We've got one cup would get a lot of callers but about tyler here about getting completely hammered. You knew that right. You might want to think about that whiskey when you go home because you've got no shop bad shot you think it's the worst song ever sent. It sucks that your tribute. no beatles. Song knows her ass. You're you're gonna continue to harp on that one. I'm gonna take that one day. i die. Daniels band come on man. I listen. I love me. Some chuck daniels some chasma. Oh and i liked that song but to call it the greatest country song ever you if i got arguably arguable argue. That's like saying okay. Arguably aaron rodgers the best quarterback ever that means you think he's in the conversation. I hate to tell you. I love chuck daniels. God rest his soul. Well bet a fiddle a gold against your soul. I can tell you this is much like it. Ain't it's not arguable. It's not even in the top fifty best country songs of all time charted. Well in yes seventy. Whatever here we go. Jacob jon jacob jingle hammerschmidt. What's up man. welcome. In i i doing. Good buddy man. I gotta fill in their brockton on neon movement. Prog my top country song. Okay everybody knows okay. Yeah i good cut. I was actually listening to brooks and dunn on the way in this morning. I gotta ask you this. Where do you put charlie daniels. What is that song cole called. It's went down at georgia. That's seventy nine came out okay. Is that arguably the best song of all time country song arguably arguably i would i i wouldn't say so i would put it in top twenty five but also i was born in ninety eight so all right i mean. You put a lot of respect on charlie daniels name and his in his music but that can't be top. Five on one on the chart for berry was a great saw. I like it but it's not best country song of all time jacob brooks and dunn cut. All right thanks man appreciate it. Good stuff let's get to ralph. What's going all ralph. You do not have tyler's back on this one absolutely. i do. Tell me why you think it is the best or arguably the best. I think it's arguably the best but try dangles the great american now man. That's a that's a great song tao title. I want michael. Connor go in a lake. If he thinks it's okay. Listen and that's a fun afternoon. Ralph i'd love charlie daniels and great american yes. We weren't arguing that now. Have you talked about great american. Yes but we're just talking about the to be a great american. I'm saying the devil went down to georgia. Just curious A great american curious. I don't know you do something like that. I don't know. Oh well you know what he is. Well is as an. He's buried now but for a very long time. He had a very very great political commentary. And you know what he cared about this country and he didn't judge people but he loved. He loved unique individual for doing was for an entertainer right. So yeah no argon what he was. But you've got that song in the top five country songs of all time absolutely fair enough ralph. I put some respect on. I always put a lot of respect on charlie daniels and that song and it did make it to number one. That shocks you back. Seventy-nine does show a good song. All right stay right there. We got the phone. Lines are loaded up because tyler has thrown a hot takeout there tyler. Kellerman has thrown tyler. Tyler dishes are your initials. Tk tyler bela's kellerman throughout a an. I love charlie daniels embassies. Not big on charlie song. I'm in betrayal. Like charlie daniels tyler. Heavy t thinks he's like off the charts. And so does ralph. And people love some charlie daniels but is that arguably the best song ever devon went down to georgia. John caitlyn johnny. All you guys lined up makes for a fun talk on a country music friday. Do you have tyler's back. Devil went down to georgia. We'll come back and play the beginning of that too. That's he can hit that fiddle now. Sports talk seven nine hundred. We're taking your calls much to john. Clayton steelers we break down the playoffs here on sportstalk. Seven ninety shots longtime friend. Sean salisbury is this sean salisbury. Show right there. Lit up dollar real quick before they get their welcome in. Mc heavy t. I'm sean salisbury. Gets you guys. Tyler came out of nowhere from left field to this country. Music friday and hit some charlie daniels who passed away last summer And a love charlie. Daniels buddy said when devil went down to georgia. Hit that arguably the best country song ever ever. That's that's what he said. And so we are battling with him over this great song. yes best ever arguably We've had a couple. We've had agreement. Ralph says he agrees with you Mc and. i don't agree with it. But i think great and i'm a big big charlie daniels fan but mc thought the song san jose it's ass he thinks it's cater face of the planet. Speak truth now. Stop it all right. Let's see top three songs right. Here's the top three songs by rolling stone. Hank williams this senior. i'd imagine. Yeah obviously. I'm looking at the date hank senior. I'm so lonesome. I could cry. Okay now look at the song there. You go thank senior to patsy. Kline the all time greats crazy and that's ninety six sixty want the best country song. According to rolling stone back is johnny cash. I walk the line. Nineteen fifty six. That's a classic. Yeah oh yeah. You know. Who's gonna argue with patsy cline johnny cash and hank senior. The devil went down to the. George was not on the rolling stones list. Right okay but it is on heavy teams list of the top one hundred songs ever taylor swift's mean is on there. That's all you need is not a country singer so she is issues to be. She was at one point. She did country album. I know she did well. I don't think she's good but she did country when i say she's not a country singer. You know what i met idle put music is. That's my planet. That's why i'm saying when. I look at country singers. I'm not thinking that she jumps to my top one hundred list. Does that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah what country singers i know. She's a country has been a country singer by how we call country singers. But there's a lot of country singers. I like a little bit better music. How's that make sense. I think that i was trying to be nice. But you just flat out said oh. Is it sucks. Here's al tell you so you think charlie definitely georgia's ass. I do all right. Caitlin what do you think kaylin welcome in. How are you doing. great how are you. I'm excited for this friday. Okay yeah okay. So you're on your way to work. Are you working today. yes unfortunately but just to say. We're going to see scotty. Mccreery go scotty mccreery. So that'll be fun. All right so this is perfect for you to chime in on. Is tyler right or wrong by saying charlie daniels devonte data georges arguably the best country song of all time. Here's wrong to that. Country song of all time is check. Yes or no by george strait and i think that george strait probably. He's got a whole bunch of cuts in the top. One hundred now. Is the king for a reason. Now let me ask you this caitlyn. Do you have devil went down. It's not a matter whether you like. Charlie daniels this song in particular. Would you put it in the top ten. Like nine and nine. And a half i gotta. That's not arguable. Though okay the time it has an argument for top style is a tenth best quarterback in the league. Have an argument. If the rolling stone didn't put in the top one hundred eight. No one reads. Thanks for being nice. Stakes would be nice to tyler and giving him a kind of a top ten. But you're right. it's not the top ten. Hey enjoy your night on a friday. And i love you. And bench warmers about. Thank you know do you have. Do you have children dog okay. No i'll say when you said our children that even more so you liked. Bench warmers issue. So that makes me. Even happier was an adult who likes bench was not just a kid. I love it so thank you. Thank you very much best supply. Don't you think i got snubbed. For best supporting actor in a comedy role a caitlyn. You're awesome have a great friday. Be safe out there and thank you for chiming in. We'll hear from you again. Have a good time thank you thank you appreciate it. I thank you see. I love it. When i thought she was going to say we meaning like she has a couple of kids that they loved bench warrant in an adult says it. I got snubbed embassy. Yeah it was. Apparently the dog looks at two. That's great hey. Dogs need the dogs. Need to see. Bench warmers to go. I think my dogs human by actually former sudanese bent to not only number two. Thank you kaitlyn. Thank you for the call. Ladies always go to the front line. She had a good take george strait and she was being nice teams country really check yes or no is a great song. Yes oh off the charts. He just say something. That's actually right. Yes about time ham and by the way tie she doesn't she was being kind to you kaitlyn by saying nine and a half she she knows darn well is good is charlie. Daniels is devon. Went down to georgia top ten song country song. She knows that she's being nice. 'cause she's welcome you to the town and a good nice lady in kind. And then when she were. She got real validation as where. She said she loved bench warmers. That's what i'm talking about. I don't know if she met. We love the movie. bench warmers. Or she loved me what plague. I'm not sure what she met. Caitlyn thanks for the call. John how you doing. What's up you. Don't tell me you're not doing this already. John as much as we love. Charlie daniels dude respectable for. You're not going to say this. are you here. You're not gonna desert listen k. You got you gotta realize come from first of all and i've got a few things about the number one michael. It was popular back in them base because in guinea it exploded from urban cowboy. I can come back from this. 'cause i was. I'm fifty three years old. I was living with you. I was living rather you know. And then the rip with the With the federal and breaking the strings. And all i mean it was just it was just a in the base. It's just a beat song. And then say saying and back in those days and seventy nine saying sob. I don't want to get drunk tonight. Some as obi and saw integrated and it. It's i'm giving twenty in the twenty twenty. Okay okay now. The greatest song of all time to me was. You got realize i'm various music. I mean i can go. George strait five finger-pointing opponent or led zeppelin aerosmith or edgy. And rock him. I go all okay. That's just where. I was raised at and greatest country song over a check by george strait to me and i'm old. I mean like my mom. Her most favorite all time zone is packed. These gone crazy. Yeah i mean old school so but now let me get sports. Hope hell how can step stepping game up since we love georgia. We knew we wanted to george. I said this the other day. How tokyo step in game up alvarez going to have to learn how to hit a breaking ball snyder and learn how to needs and quit everybody jumping all over because he hit the ball up top minute maid and then to ask that cold in the other day who said who got an argument with you. All about breathe watson At remember quote unquote what he said. That watching is not better than brees. And it hasn't been the hasn't been the middle of the pack as quarterbacks in the nfl they. I don't know what you watch. We're not saying his career at clown was saying right now. Drew brees cannot run like watson. Can't he can't throw like chan either. Couldn't throw like watson could when he was in his prime he doesn't the canaan he had a good arm and he didn't have a cannon and yeah nobody can touch his career numbers. That's obvious he's number one in the law as passed peyton and everything. But so you sit there. Say that watching a middle of the pack quarterback you don't even yarmysh start screening and calls better bra emma java great weekend thank you john i appreciate it so he got you tyler in the why did you say you had your back. The top twenty. You told me yeah. Well he top twenty. I was lied to top twenty. Okay if we said twentieth. Who's the twentieth best wide. Receiver of all time is arguably the best argument to be moved. Charlie daniels great. The song devil down georgia great cut. It's not in the top fifty country cuts of all time now the fiddle like you said when you hit that fiddle. Yeah ain't no doubt it was it was he got after it. But i like your style but this is texas brother. I mean there must have been pretty damn good for it to be the only country song ever featured on guitar hero. So dang go so. That's the argument right. If it's a number one even if it if it made it to number one you're saying then it becomes arguable number one on the charts. Then you believe. It's arguable. charlie daniels. Over george strait as a whole okay. I was gonna say don't cuss at me like that. If you were going to do that. Slow your roll little bit right just a little. I would have to kill them. Just flat out kill him. Yeah you've kill him. I wouldn't actually commit wait for just a little while before you kill it. Yeah otherwise defend tyler throughout the rest of the show you can or you can get in this kitchen a matter of fact. Tyler hasn't really been welcome to the show by the callers properly. Call him in say hello. He's producer and he said. Charlie daniels song devil went down to georgia is arguably the best country song he said that in texas yes folks of all time is michael berry listening. Oh well michael berry chime in on somebody tell michael berry to put his show on hold and call in here or walk down a hallway and come in here. I want to hear michael berry. You need michael barone to mike get after you wonder what he owner if he defend you. Don't think so. We'll talk sports. Talk seven hundred. Whitney mercilus listening to sean solve real texas. Sports thought seven ninety tyler. Look what you've done. This is a real song country music. Friday tyler said devil down georgia's arguably the best country song of all time. Yup that was set on here. No disrespect much respect. Charlie daniels passed away over the summer. Twenty twenty but devon down got a call like we see it and tyler has arguably the best country song ever devil went down to georgia. You wanna camp out of you. Good sticking with it. I'm going to die on the hill. He's okay to take a. I'm the king of bad tax. Says okay to bad. Had a lot of them this week. I don't know about the ladies and gentlemen tire. What is your name. Tyler tyler Bantay tyler kellerman bela's. Is that what we call a nice. I like the the the the initials t k b. i liked it mike. What's up man. Mike what's up. Hey good morning guys. Good morning i on timers opinion Lessons fart say that second You know. I woke up on to listen to. These guys is just kind of you. Know what the hell's right pack. Excuse me you could save on the number one you could say west herts on yeah You know top five is probably more workable but So this what you classically think of man willie nelson Blue eyes crying in the rain. to me that's that's pretty great and also throw in there up against the wall redneck mother up against the wall. Red neck mother. I like it so bless his heart was your was your message to tyler bike. Plus y'all have a great week and brother thank you. that's classic. Bless your heart tyler. Bless your heart. It clicked over when you put that. Who who's who's up. Who's this welcome in. Who is james. Okay james how you doing sorry your name kinda got disappeared from the board. How you doing brother. I'm all good brother. Hey i love. Bench warmers as well but as far as the devil went down to georgia. I liken that to the same as living on a prayer or in the air tonight you know gets you fired up and and you're saying along or you play the drums so low or whatever it is the fiddle like back in black. It's jumping besides the best song of all time but your jet right. Okay i got you right. You're fired up to hear it but Charlie daniels i mean. I love his work. But you know he's he's not even top ten country artist but and country music is one of those. it's it's any music rock and roll. You have your personal preferences like your previous caller blue eyes crying and running. I love that one But one of my favorite willie songs The last thing. I needed the first thing this morning. is pretty awesome. A lot of people don't know it but great song all time is. He stopped loving her today. Fair enough like it. Bless you know. Yeah no doubt about it. I appreciate your brother. Thank you good. Call tyler devil went down to georgia says arguably the best country song of all time on a country. Music friday steve. What you think man to help tyler out here brother. Yeah so. I just wanted to try to help them out I think we can related back to sports. What i think is is If double check me on this. But i think it was featured worldwide During the nineteen ninety four olympics. I think one of the gymnasts used it as one of her songs for the four show. And so yeah. I just think that It has a world impact on everyone hearing it like it. All right man appreciate it there. You good job. See tyler you got people that feel for you with my favorite line steve. Thank you very much is bless your heart man call it. That was all i needed to hear. That is worldwide validation right there know what this one he just yeah. It was used on the olympic floor. That is worldwide validation. That's all it may because it was used on the olympic floor and was heard by the world today. You mc we go back to my favorite double-dip today former. I mean just. Because i know you can run. Run him out. We're going to be new job. availab- opening website. Anyone outside to we're gonna need all put together the gofundme for tyler's u-haul to go back to california and you know what i'm actually going to buy you a it's going to be on a perpetual real the devil data georgia on you triple. It'd be a cassette. I got into old nine. One thousand nine hundred. Give you whiskey drinking while you drive fair enough richard. When she got for. Tyler matt sean. Good morning what are you doing. Listening to tyler devil went down to georgia. You know tyler gets in his car and cranks up the disco station. He's california country there. Go ahead matt guaranteeing he. He's in his little car driving around six ten singing. Ring my bell. You know that. Come on Uh oh richard. You who who's better devil went down to george. Got points like fergie. And jesus go ahead. What else out country song you guys haven't hit on it yet it's waylon jennings mamas. Don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys. all right. you gotta waylon in there. All right waylon richard. Thank you great. Call men. appreciated. Tyler is just getting completely hammered. But they're doing a kindly. They're doing a kite is a nice welcome. We're not giving you a parting gift yet. We're welcoming in. Okay now you say. The devil went down. Georgia say something like that again tomorrow and emcees going to tell your tomorrow saturday so you can't say you filthy mouth. Mci whore now jason. What you got mad. You want to go to the first off jason. You country fan. Oh yeah i'm country fan and you answer the question that i didn't know he was from california. He probably thinks keith. Urban is if it's a classic country. Brian keith urban from like georgia and florida georgia to. He's a true country boy. He go ballistic. A toy was a great guy. You know he. He had he Around a lot of people devon down in georgia i. It was a song that came out in a time where it was perfect time in the late seventies and hit just right but you know charlie daniels. He is not. It's not the greatest country west of all time. Okay texans. Coaching search question. Oh okay so quick question interest for me so it. I think i heard yesterday that even at the texas have agreed with terms with the enemy are frazier. they cannot announce it at it. Nothing can be said about it because they're still in the playoffs decorate. Yes it's absolutely correct. So let's just say and we do this with a wink wake. Let's say the texans are decided that they won't be enemy today right. Let's say they know that they want now. They may very well. Just have a deal with our agency analysts. And here's the offer. We won't officially sign it. You know you after the interview talk but it can't make it official and you're supposed to hire them till they're done playing but we damn well know that if all of a sudden it's announced at midnight either this weekend or after the super bowl right that that deal was in place because you ain't negotiating the deal in eight minutes okay. So if they know who their head coaches in the guy still planned. They can announce legally because the tampering. And the rules. And you know they'll get fined and pop possibly dr draft pick so if they do know you will not hear it 'til either be enemy or frazier or whoever now. If somebody's not playing they can announce that for anybody's we see all the time. But if you're still in the playoffs. Even after like for instance. Eric interviewed if they wanted to hire him on the spot. They wouldn't be able to talk about it or announce it officially do it until he's out of the playoffs true and that's why i think yesterday the enemies Press his body language. You know we know when the when the subject came up. He's you know he said you know you know it's always been a dream and this and that he's smiling like you know it's like it's almost like you know. Hey he was giving us a little give us a little. i'm not. I can't say i can't do this or that. Finally believe that you know it's going to be one or two and way and nothing is probably the enemy already. 'cause wasn't one or two they were already Already signed nasa. You of was kind feel for the press conference today. Meaning me know something. We don't is what you're saying. Basically absolutely big cheese in you know it was like i really something i dream dog so happy about it and you know and i think that's probably where they're at and i think probably done like you said a little weak and not. Hey look be. I'll lose on sunday and monday. We can announce that you know. We were we off the coaching job. There you go. Jason appreciate it man. Good point i tend. I tend to agree with you. I i actually believe that that is going to be the guy that with. Maybe it's wishful thinking. But i hope. So here's eric. Bana me said during his press conference yesterday about Head coaching jobs to be mentioned in in having an opportunity to pursue your dreams and obviously yes. I do want to be a head coach. But when it's all said and done with. My job is to make everything that we're doing right now is not take away from the goals that we're trying to work on my own. Personal business went all in time to take care of itself that will take care of itself. It will and whether it's now at the end of this weekend whether at the end of the super bowl or whether it's next year eventually it's going to take care of itself and we here in houston. I think hope it's sooner than later. 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He already done some very smart. Just based on what the reason you wanted me to talk. Okay so michael's affixed you're here. I mean czar. Excuse me yeah and the question. I mean we were just talking country music friday. He came back playing. Charlie daniels right and why love love jara trade. Great human being and we've lost him. What about seven eight months in the middle of summer last year and double went down to georgia. Play and tyler interrupted after the cut was over and said arguably the greatest country song of all time. So i had the beckon. You callers being nice to him of barium in a nice way once said bless your heart so you say he's not very smart. He's from california. By the way you go ahead have it. Well i would just you know. There's a lot of great got a lot of great country. Came out of california. Feel sound got merle absolutely oldest bucko california guy Well he's actually from sherman techs but But he ended up in right. Yeah it's not. Listen if he's going to be on. The house berry show which grain is not the michael berry show. But it's not it's not nothing but you keep me starting sentences with arguably what was your basically saying. I'm making a statement. That is not definitive right. Every state right. It's kind of apparent that ical date kind of bitch common kind of bitch but if you want to know the greatest country music songs of all time and you want an arguably in front of it you got george. Jones's he stopped loving her today. Nineteen eighty he hadn't had a hit in seven years. He's fifty years old. A great comeback. Produced by billy cheryl. Is you know big george old school. Yeah so you got that. But you've also got dave alan coz you never even called me by my name. Written of course by steve goodman who told him it was the greatest country music song of all time and he wrote him back and said no. It wasn't because it didn't have. He told his pre version where he says no. You didn't say anything about mama or trains or getting drunk. So he sat down and wrote another verse not felt obliged to include that on this album and he sings it. I was drawn the imam out of prison for jesus and i went. Sure bigger up and rang Yeah i get the history know. I would say but you know the purest the purist would tell you you could go gary stewart She's acting single. Andrei in doubles. That's just that's kind of a classic sad. Remorse came on a sawmill. Came on a radio. The unserious the other day. Oh station either. Listen gary stewart drank himself to death. Is there anything more white man blues. Which is what country music is but if you wanna ask me which you did my greatest all time country music saw jeff. Is merle haggard. The way i am love merle haggard. You get you get the true white man blues. You get working class painful job. He hates contest on your emotions emotions. It's yes it tugs on your emotions so your mess. I know you gotta show so. You'd said it's not the shots house shows. Not the michael berry should know. If you're zoro talk where do. I fit in saying tag one. Get one music question. To what do you think about thongs on. By cisco cisco kid was a friend of that s not one little pieces of his work or her were. I can't remember what he is. No come to think of right all right. So if you're if you're czar zara ta let me think on that don't say arguably either no i'm going to have you. You're the guy carrying the clipboard. And i'm the quarterback one twisted knee. You're getting your warming up at our gary kubiak to yeah you see where we're going here so you're l. of kubiak writing. Yeah great career. Just not quite elway. I'm elway trying to win the super bowl when he helicopter ride of the. That's one of the greats of also. What would he. Come to more ops producers producing. I'm gonna put him as todd marina vich czar of talk. That's michael berry. Well welcome michael. Berry buried tyler. I know but he's obviously nationalise. The main all over the country. I mean welcome. Welcome to michael berry desire feel now honored and humbled and even though. I got called todd. Which i love todd but musician himself by the way great guitar player. Todd marina vich. Oughta gary leave gary. We're about to take your call all right. Cia to put guarantee them. A callers on this czar. Talk right. those aren't gonna make waves coming. Gary callback get you a promise. I'll get you but when this comes in did he yeah. The thong song he was. I wanted to see if he was version of other genres if he went to cisco kid was a friend of mine another different song not the thong song and not by cisco so the big show is in that thoughts on music video. There you go. I can't say. I don't remember seeing the thong song music video. The guesses butch women in thongs. I think that you're probably pretty safe with that one. So those are little merle haggard at the top seed gary. Don't get impatient. Gary call back. See how people get paid when those are. That's like okay. Czar calls him. Amin walks in studio comes in the door. That would be like brady calling in. Wanted to be a guest on the show looking at thongs video right now. Much women thongs. There's a shocker. Got we had to put you on. Hold for a second. Because when the goat walks in you you put him on the air mcnair coming in here to take his math tests like i said when the goat walks in we put the dead bulldog cow. Michael he's got a matter of fact. Michael berry might code building the czar gary. What's up man how you doing. Hey good morning guys can you hear me. Okay got you buddy. Yeah hey michael pleasure here just listen to you just second goal and the other channel. You talked to that lady. That was nervous. That had that nine year old. That was great. That was a great take awesome. I gotta go back and do my shows thank you. I appreciate it i am. I still on your on you michael. Thanks man appreciate it hard. Gary go ahead. you're wrong okay. Yeah it's impossible to name one. The best of all times like the best of all time and other things. It's hard to name one of my favorites on the countryside. I'm classics is Vince gill so so so he could do so. Many things is When i call your name and the other one is willie and ray charles Seven spanish angels to great song. So where do you. Oh yes very much so to three great artists me ask you this. Excuse me so where do you have. Devil went down to georgia in europe. On your pecking order. It's it's not even in my top fifty. I'm i'm you know. I love song but i don't. I wouldn't put it in my top fifty bingo jerry. Thank you appreciate it brother. Thank you all right. A ton of what you got anything. You want to say top fit. Come on dude not in the top. Fifty mc top fifty either emcees also a lot of things that make me question. I've been backed up today by all the people that tell you that. The songs aren't good. -gratulations have been backed up on one thing but said ass but mcu and asks on. I'm not afraid to put ass on anything you just did. You threw accidents shots potasse. I'll tell you it's ask you big texans fan right now. You don't even let him rest their sold being a rocket span at the moment unfortunately ass astros fan. Good being an astros fan astros right fairly all right tyler. Todd say you're a little bit. Outnumbered onto cuts today and then the largest came out dressed down. He ought he said whose initial line michael berry was. Well i can already tell. He's he's not very smart. I i'm i'm gonna defend you on that. I know how smart your brother but those are waltzed and just took. What are you gonna do. What are you going to say his arm and you want to go to his studio dog. I'm good. I'll be over here. He loves you. See it's affectionate love. You know when you're talking at least when you're talking means when you quit talking to you did they don't care about you. See you're already welcomed into the czar of talk. Greg cooks in the building by the way. He's all the cookie monster. Get him to tell him to let me in he is. I saw that. I can't wait to see him miss him. And you guys get see greg up next. Hopefully we'll a alkyl greg today here to got. He sounds fired up when i talked to him. Man that'll be today. Sports talk seven ninety. Pay start your twenty twenty one off right now and i know we're almost through january but jump on it. It's still rolling twenty twenty one. Start off no down. Payment classic chevy sugarland yup. The deals are through the roof. The twenty here's a. Here's an underrated vehicle. We need to talk more about. Because i go down there often. I'm like ooh that's beautiful. Twenty twenty one equinox l. s. thirty six months to twenty nine a month to twenty nine a month. 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Qb right here. He actually has it on his name tape former pro cutie right here. Back to sean on sports. Talk seven ninety reemphasize one of the prerequisites of calling of being a head coach this. We're not even discuss into shawn watson here. Obviously you can call in tyler or agree with him on the best country song ever on a country music. Friday tyler came out of nowhere from talking from the rafters with as the devil went down to georgia was playing on a rejoin bengo. He said it's the greatest country song arguably all time of all time. So you can. You can kind of call in at seven three two one. Two five seven ninety. Give us your favorite or your best country music song of all time and then you can chime in on if you agree or disagree tyler. Listen there is a lot of banter going on who the next head coach going to be. Now i'm removed. The sean thought about this and i know people say well. The guy's not coming here to sean not. The coach is going to be hired before the decision. Shawn's made the decision onto shawn's already made. He's gonna quarterback the texans in my opinion but i can't fathom many other scenario where he's not unless he wants to retire from football because then i'll just you're gonna you're not you're not you're not holding out that long. There's too much money i'm a. I loved the shawn watson. i want him here. And maybe that's why. I'm so emotional. And and i don't know my vested interest is that i think he's a great player and you just don't do this with players like this. Not only the way you treat players but also the way you you you keep players you gotta keep guys like this. You just do great human grain. The community great player. He's not going to get to dictate trade now he gets to dictate where he goes. Because unless he removes the cert. Teams doesn't want to no trade clause and by the way for folks who say. I'll jimmy garoppolo. Jimmy garoppolo also has a no trade clause just so you know so with that in mind. You're not i. It's always funny when people say well you guys not gonna take it if shawn watson if you're eric beating me or leslie frazier if those are the final two candidates. You're taking the job. Assuming you're going to be able to convince shawn watson to be a little bit happier if you're the front office you're not even worried about who you're what's going on about shahuad because you're not trading him so. Let's put watson aside about the coaching decision. Let's assume like. I'm going to watson's here. And i think it's a pretty fairly safe assumption for me. I just do if i'm wrong. I'll stand like i said it's no inside. Facts inside knowledge is just nobody can be that stupid to trade that guy away all leave it at that all right so would you actually curse on the air if he did like say bad words. I think i'd have a hard time. Not not try to control myself but if i dropped it f-bomb i trust title would hit the red button. Okay so there's that but we've got to get out of the mode of well. He doesn't call. I'm so tired of hearing that. I'm so tired of hearing that i am. He never called plays. So i assume. Then if you're one of those people who say that here and i'm not really talking to the local folks here. Because i think we got some pretty bright fans and listeners and callers i'm kind of speaking nationally but you guys i'm kind of funneled through you guys so you know just because you're our audience and if you're on the iheartradio app in another city i'm speaking to your city at any other city. That thinks that shawn watson or a coach is coming to you. Listen you can't be one of those if you're good at tell me you can't hire eric be enemy because andy reid calls the place then you can't call in and give me a legitimate argument. I i can't. I can't put any legitimacy on your argument that whenever you say anything about sports that you didn't play is that is that fair. So if you're gonna tell me you're gonna call in and give an opinion. You're on some national talk. Show or for instance. If you're max keller or skip bayless that you tell me will. He doesn't call plays. he's not qualified. Whether it's being anybody else who'd frank reich who didn't call plays in philly before he went to get the job with the colts so if you're that person who says did call place can't be the head coach now just the qualified then then then how in the world would you expect me if you didn't play football to take your call with any seriousness telling me that you're qualified to tell me what a coach brings to the table. See how that works. See how that works. You listen to you. Hang around football. You watch football. So does that qualify to come. Tell me or anybody else. If you're max kellerman or if you're skip bayless does that qualify them to to say hey. He's not qualified to be the head coach. Well because he didn't call place. Well then you're not qualified. Sit on tv at six million bucks a year. Five million bucks year at tell me about football or baseball because you didn't play. None of us are qualified to give any opinion on a candidate has the interviewing him right. Yes it's all. Just get so tired of now. If you tell me sean my concern is and he's been calling the plays what you should be. More concerned about is if eric be enemy took over the play calling firmly in kansas city for this game. 'cause andy had the flu could he do what. Andy doesn't keep kansas city alive for a super bowl. You shouldn't be concerned if eric who's been around. Xs and os whole life played at coached at different positions and offensive coordinator and around the best play caller in the league right now with with all that he's done worry about him coming and leading people see. Don't worry about the playcalling when he comes here. Because eric be enemy he may call plays and if he does he should be fairly secure unknown. He was tutored properly. And and and coached properly by andy. Reid are supposed to coach. Coaches head. coach coaches coaches. Just like a player coaches the players. So if you're going to we're going to discuss this more if you're gonna tell me on a national hot take crap the you're going to say hasn't called plays can't hire andy reid dozen then. I can't take your credibility for anything more than well. You're not credible to talk on football because you've never played so. Is that how. I'm supposed to approach hot. Take artists the way. They approach. Eric the enemy. You're all kinds of crap is what you are if you think that play calling qualifies you to be a leader of men as a head coach. Sorry it qualifies you to call place. There's a difference just like being an xs and os guy and a game day playcaller or different sports. Talk seven hundred hour number. Four komeda quarterback. John sounds multi shells very this. Is the sean salisbury. Show sports talk. Seven ninety so yeah. I'm a firm believer. If you're a hot take person telling me. He didn't call place. I'm he can't lead a team. Then you're not qualified to call up or be a national hot take artists and tell me that you did your comments on coaches that we should even validate those. See how that works you. Don't you don't get to live down the because you watch it on tv or i watch it on tv yet. Eric enemy standing side by side with the best coach in possibly in the league. Right now that he's not qualified because he doesn't call the place to lead men as a leader yet. You're qualified to tell us that aired vietnamese not qualified. Get them out of here. Do you think he's going to be the coach. I do always. I know that he hasn't been requested. An interview are is the sleeper cells. Still brian able. Yeah and they said likely he's coming back but I think that he That would be The one time of was saying that little bit of an outlier right. Yeah they were saying well. Could somebody other than one of the two guys frazier be enemy. I'm going to and maybe it's for me. It's it's like trying to vote in the university of tire enemy. It's a no brainer. The longer it takes the more. I believe that. Yeah i'm with you there even a better idea because one of those is getting eliminated this sunday and if they don't hire that guy by monday you know that means it's the other guy in my opinion because guys on buffalo be eliminated if they lose right so if that's on monday one of them's not the coach or tuesday. Then you'll know their wait till after the super bowl yeah. There's no other reason to wait right that that would be the only only reason to wait. Jason what's up man. How you doing. I'm doing good good good. What's up. I wanna wish I heard gary kubiak retired today. So i wish him all the best in his retirement. He did well houston and I just wish this you know. I'm a football fan in general I lived in houston. The last couple of years and i recently moved down to beaumont. I love your show all the time. And listen to you all the time Chicago didn't think that mac would be traded. The jaguars didn't think that jalen ramsey would be traded. You're all these guys like rappaport and schefter say that houston houston houses burned to the ground. And it's not fixable Nobody likes negatively on their city. The shawn watson is a generational talent and you know he. You don't see guys like that. Come along and i really really like being out. I've always said that being me should have been a head coach. You know last time with Whenever it came up that he may go to houston. Or wherever. I really like and i think that he could be good for houston if he could fix that situation. Because i think the new. Gm is coming in. I think he knows a lot. More than people are saying that he does it. Know but man. I just don't like the negative in houston and you know it's becoming more and more inevitable that he's gonna be traded and i just you know let me let me let me ask you when you say inevitable and i let me backtrack to is in the difference between mac and jalen ramsey. You're right that we didn't. I mean think about this three first routers for khalil mack okay disruptors important and get first rounder for jalen ramsey. I got i got news for you. Was it a first they traits. Yeah i found right. Yeah the ramp. That's right and the jacksonville will get that pick this year. I mean jacksonville. Gets the rams pick this year. Is that the outlier is that. There's a big difference. This is a quarterback. You don't trade quarterbacks at twenty five just don't that's one two is but let me ask you as you say it's inevitable they're going to trade him. Are you just going on the simple fact. You'd think because they are so inept in making decisions in the front office you see. I think it's inevitable that they're going to keep him. I think a lot of this is more chatter than truth. I really you know. He hasn't came out and requested a trade. He's always stated that he loves houston and the people knows that he loves houston right there. That right there to me is a big factor. The fact that he loves the city and the fact that he hasn't asked for trade. But when you take pieces away. Like hopkins was his. Go to guy when you take pieces away like that even with you know judging what's been there for a long long time you know and there's a report that he's coming back that he's going to be compensated if he does get traded which is a good thing for houston the fact that he's going to help them and they're gonna help him but the simple fact is we're not hearing a lot we're hearing everything negative about the situation and the only positive outlook is simple stack. That he hasn't requested a trade any loves the city. And it'd be fixed. I don't know yeah. I don't know. Maybe eric coach can fix it. Possibly or a lot of money and coming back and people love him here. And i'm a positive side because i just don't see how anybody could be ignorant up to trade him i just don't i honestly don't see how you could do that. It's never happened never happened. Yeah if they trade him not only will the city lose faith in the team they will also never bounce back for the simple fact. That this shawn watson isn't has been the best thing since steve mcnair in houston my personal thanks jane. I deplore the day. That i love your show. Inaugurate brother thank you. Thanks for the great insight and thanks for the great compliment. I could tell you this. They'll never i don't know i don't think i think that the city's lost a lot of faith in the texans already. i think. that's pretty watson and jason. You're right one percent. I don't know how you unless you're lucky. And let's say you traded him and you got lucky with a quarterback and these players all panda. They all have to pan out and be able put see for me. Every single guy you'd get in this trade has to turn into a pro bowl superstar free for it to be a fair trade and they did get rid of hopkins and still look watson did which is a tribute to his ability to all right. I'm not gonna pout about it at bugs me. I'm going to overcome and still play. Good football so i the for me. I didn't faith is already lost. They can gain faith back by by keeping this guy in hiring the right coach and then the faith comes with winning and commitment and drafting and seeing how. Nick put nick caserio in the same group. Those guys because nicosia doesn't deserve to be there. That i'm holding nick caserio. In the new england patriots winning franchise category right now until he proves to me. He can't do this on his own until he can't prove that out of out from under bill that he's capable right now he's capable because he's qualified we'll see how it turns out just like we wouldn't have a player if a guy came here and it was his first time head coach. We'll see how it works. But i maybe it's wishful thinking by me and i have no problem if i'm wrong on something. I just can't fathom any normal sane human being when it comes to making decisions would think the trade jay cutler's the closest thing and cutler couldn't dress in the same you can't it saints area. Code is what's good player. We could say until we're blue in the face. You cannot trade. This man day might can't. I'm more concerned now. I think the head coach can smooth it over. We'll the coach is going to take any knows about watsonville. The coaches are going to know about. What's tell the coach takes it so you must understand that unless he can talk to shawn watson privacy. You come off your coach. I'm coming other than that is. The coach is going to be hired before you have a settlement on meaning before you have any comfort knowing. What does shawn watson wants to do. I'm telling you that. So you're not the coaches not coming. Well let john. He's not gonna wait for the sean to jump out in public and say i'm coming back. The coach that takes his job is going to assume that the that the front office said we're not trading watson. He's coming back now. You go and make sure he's happy. That's what they're going to tell the head coach coach watson coming back. We're not trading him. I'm sure that if leslie frazier. Eric vietnamese coach. They will told him to shawn watson is not getting traded. It's going to be coach. I quarterback fallen in line. Second not the other way round. Don't what's up. good morning james. So i'll do real fast here have you First of all On your country song so pretty awesome. I like that I would like to. I'd like the song by kenny rogers. Through the years my wife loves that things one of the best sons in country school. Also i agree with you sean. Texans will not try to shine. Nobody has enough assets to give us what he's worth and this will be is the coach on the football games. We can always say. I'm taking packers and also a my condolences to all the thomson family of there. I got to meet the a couple of years back We lost a great men in the packer nation. He's kind of built this roster as a matter of fact. Four pro bowlers. They're on the team right now. Also this woman is for michael on the signing of the catcher michael. I think it's a good thing to of the framers on the league and also we do have options there. Just in case the da. Gino's going to be a long year. We can use either one as a d. h. nephew writing and also Sean on your caller that called you the other day man the wherever he meal. There's enough people they didn't they don't know what they're talking if i give their whether they whether they decide to bury themselves or not as on them but i'll give up and also one request if possible. Ma wives that fun through the years you can play maybe thirty seconds. I appreciate it. Thanks for taking my call thank you oh go buddy of going yes and you make a great point. Thanks dose that geese. And we'll find out through the years with kenny rogers for dose akis and his wife is the ted yeah ted thompson passed away and a sad day former oiler and it was a great point. I think it was andrew brandt who put it up in the front office he said. Do you realize that the most controversial pick the ted thompson made his career. Rogers yeah it worked out. Yeah just kind of a hell of a front office. Guy took over for ron woolfe and is one of the really really great front ops guys best to his family was way too young and made a huge impact in football and was quiet and did his job and sat there and took the aaron rodgers criticism and can know that that for the most controversial picky made turned out to be the very best fiqh he made and one of the best picks of all time get guy that late in the first round. Eighty think about dan marino was taken. The first round and aaron rodgers has got a super. You mean you would say that. Aaron rogers is probably the better player. Oh and that saying something with dan. So you start to talk about picks. You got quarterbacks that length. Hopefully i expect him to work out. But not like the top five. Pick right at aaron rodgers ted thompson. God bless your family and and unfortunate unfortunate loss for the family for his family and for the national football league sports. Talk seven ninety qualified coaches. We will discuss and will we will the rockets. I'd like to hit this for second or the rockets going to turn this around the believe they can hopeful your optimism dropping or or you feel good. I got to see him play for a week. That means getting onto the floor. Sports talk seven ninety the most refreshing way to start your day shower shave and shown. Courtesy flushes always appreciated. Thank god thank the good lord. Thank you from the management team here at sports. Talk seven. back to sean salisbury Yeah while we're talking these championship game. John clayton will join us in about ten twelve minutes here will roll through it. We'll get his opinion on who the best head. Coaching is so far. And maybe his thoughts on if he has any idea. Is it coming down to one of these. Two guys and eric the enemy and leslie frazier if you have. If if you're if you think you understand this coaching search or eric be enemy and you got a qualified candidate that you like or if you have a reason why Enemy should be hard. I need you to tell me a reason. Why shouldn't i can't think of many. I can't think of any if there was a lot of reasons. And i don't want to hear that he shouldn't be higher than than a lot of people. Were sure interviewing him. And i don well. What's a bad interview. Do you want results or some guy to can't sit a crime in. I'm not and i don't i don't know man and when i hear didn't interview well what does that mean i tell tell and said poop a lot. Yeah what does that mean. I i i would imagine. We've had a lot of guys that are quiet or or not. And i'm not saying he is but that maybe aren't and i did. What what. Effect tony dungee. And he said this. I said tony. And i talked about this years before tony. Aiello and scream. He's not gonna go in there and put it this way. Tony's the opposite dan campbell k. But detroit the dan table approach. So does that mean interview or it. Just they were a little when he interviewing before. You're gonna head coach well. He's not a customer and a yellow and screamer so you can't be a nice guy and still being efficient football coach which is which is completely wrong. So there's two different there's eight different ways to do it. There's cleaners there's guys who do guys don't guys that are black. Guys that are white guys that that that it or coordinators guys that are position. Coach guys coached on special teams guys. That are enthusiastic guys. That require that. Our jim caldwell that don't dinner kinda just calm and and certain teams need that. It's it's it's not bad interview it's called. Do you fit what we're trying to do here. And i don't know what box eric enemy doesn't check since i haven't been in the interview but i can tell you this on the surface and knowing that and knowing the people involved in knowing his background and no one people that he's coached with the checks a lot of boxes for me and i'll tell you this anybody when when i hear a coach say a general manager saw checks all the boxes. Nobody checks boxes. Nobody see brady doesn't check all the boxes never has why can't run so that's about well it's a weakness but you know what he's done you take a weakness and you use your strengths to cover your weakness and you stay out of the weakness same thing with a coach if you're if your strength as motivational speeches stay out of them. Use another assistant coach to do it to find a different way if your weaknesses while i'm not a great playcaller then be a great leader and hire a great playcaller. The key is not have many weaknesses and strengths. You have everybody has strengths. The key is do you know what your weaknesses are recognized. I know how to stay away from him. Steer clear of them or strengthen them by taking nine brady has taken every other strength and turned his inability to get on the edge and be a dual threat guy to be in the greatest pocket passer and manipulator the pocket. The history of the game hints nine super bowls in a possibility at a tenth and a possibility the seventh win. So they're going to be. Let's say he has a weakness. Didn't call plays guess. What if that was something that the texans didn't like well. You didn't call plays andy even though you're standing shoulder to shoulder and putting game plans with him probably finishing his senses. Okay if you if you perceive that is a weakness. Guess what you do if they want you to hire coordinator that you trust go higher mike kafka if you could steal him away from kansas city and bring him here calling the assistant head coach and offensive coordinator bengal and making it less. And he's going to do it with eric leaves. Yeah so you know it just depends cinco what you got matt. Hey what's up doing good you Hang in there. Man avoids the kobe thing. So i gotta scenario Sean well everybody really. You got One twenty one to the end of the game and it's tied up and you got rodgers and great quarterback who would you want in that scenario and why and and the song of the day is and this one you need to. You need to off the top and sit in the car so they don't see christ. It's dwight dwight yoakam when us nurses for the new room She wore red dresses right. When you got appreciate your thank cinco. I'm not trying to cry. I'm going to be happy today. But i get single. Here's the answer to that at this stage of their careers. You said this weekend. There's a buck twenty or so to go games online. Who do i want brady or rogers. Listen the best of all time doing these things and winning games under pressure duress has been tom brady right. And here's why aaron rodgers. If everything else goes to hell in a handbasket he can extend the you can make every fricken throw brady can still make a ton of the throws but air can literally make every frigging three. If the pocket breaks down dupage headphones the pocket breaks down. Tom can do nothing about it. Other than get rid of the ball quickly and can extend place so it. Listen i think that when you asked me who. The goat of all the who. The goat of quarterbacks of all time is at its montana would be second. there's no hesitation for me. it's brady and i don't think it's it should. This one is an arguable anymore. It's just not if you had to question. Well let's see what he does somewhere else while you're seeing it through for forty six hundred yards thirty thirty five forty. Dd whatever it was and on a new team in a new system completely different than a system. He ran in new england. Vertical as opposed to horizontal period. You just did so. He's the go now in your situation cinco the you put out there. It's rogers it's quite frankly. It's rogers right now. Over mahomes is rogers over at its rogers over brady. It's rogers over watson. It's rogers over all of them now. There's some that are really close now. If i got to settle for second. There's some guys that i like. You've seen a lot of time here. But i can tell you. This is aaron rodgers. That i would take brady the goat. If it came down to that situation. I think both are capable of taking down against the opposing team. But if i said if he said sean choose one this year this scenario this weekend it would be rodgers so that would be an easy decision for me. Some terrible news to pass along in the sports world had just commenced somebody died. Hank aaron has passed away at the age. That's unfortunate along. Say and i've been saying it forever when it comes to set it on this show god well first of all what a difference maker. What a player. What a human being. The home run k. And the king henry aaron. I could say. I'll never forget watching him. Get the ball against al downing and knocking. In and tom house got the ball in In the bullpen. Atlanta fulton county stadium. When hank aaron hit watch the game on tv without downing through the through a left-handed put right over there. And i was watching the game. When hank aaron broke the home run record Tremendous human being and we. We obviously know what he had to overcome. And what twenty six year career that. Listen i've long said. And i believe this i think he's the most underrated baseball player of all time. Most underrated superstars and sport. Right when you look at his numbers. When i when i say the i've said it a thousand times i've asked this question. Who's the best baseball player of all time. Give me your top. Ten and caring. Aaron for many has become the he's always right. I left out hank. Aaron five time all star. Yeah i love all that's right. I left out hank. Aaron that we go off babe. Ruth willie mays barry bonds with people. Throwing trout's name out there. Oh mickey mantle. Stan musial ted williams. I mean we we thought oh. That's right hank aaron. Well when you look at the numbers the longevity what. He had overcome like a lot of baseball players african american in his time to do what he did. Play in the south main. Listen this is when you look at. This is the most underrated baseball player of he now among players. There's no way he's underrated. I'm tom just on the way we when we're talking about hall of fame and it's like he's he's like oh that's right henry hank aaron. Well guess what. There's we'll eight yankees and then you'll say. Oh that's right lou gehrig. Oh henry erin. Hank aaron exactly. We'll hear some stories about it. I'm sure soon but hank. Aaron was dusty baker's like mentor. So i'm sure saddened for for desktop. Saw this coming. Do we know how what was eighty six years old now. I know that his health had been declining ad. Had been i. I did know that. I did know how how close it was to happening right. Yeah i hadn't seen anything i mean. I know you've been on a cane and everything last few times you've seen in public and you could tell he was slowing down. Unfortunately well bad news unfortunate news and it's just an extension of the twenty twenty news about a lot of that stuff. We heard and eighty six long. Good life impactful life not just on the field but off it and i'm sure not just a dusty baker a mentor to many and dusty was in atlanta brave. He knows henry. Aaron obviously Knows what hank. Aaron went through and what he was all about. I think dusty would probably agree one of the greatest players of all time and i get breaking out the hank aaron wrist this year. Who loves them. Love them and i don't blame him. Hank aaron dead at the age of eighty six. It's sports talk. Seven ninety john clayton will join us next towns most complete breakfast collage cheese breakfast tacos. And sean salisbury steak. Don't forget to voca view air holes yogi cleaning that microwave. Trust me. Yuck more sean. Right now on sports talk seven. Ninety seven ninety. It's time for the professor as he does every week. Plays a little four ounce with us longtime partner on country music. Friday john clayton joins in johnny welcome in. Let let me start here if you were judging the best coaching higher so far who is at y That's a good question because again it's like It's so curious how all these things have come together. You know you still wonder a little bit about brandon staley because he's still so young In where he really fits I kinda like what they did in atlanta. But i don't know there's really one that stands out as a great hire you know the The knicks yanni. One is kinda curious just because They're trying to resurrect things with carson wentz. And so they go to a frank right guy because frank had done such a good job there. But he's not calling plays I'm dan campbell. Kind of baffles me. Because you know he's not been calling plays or anything else in in the enemy hasn't gotten a job yet so it's like it's kind of very curious away. All these things have come together. Yeah what about urban meyer. John i don't i don't like it. Why why just. Because he's a college guy aren't we passed that now. Yeah well and for several reasons. I mean what since two thousand. There's been a dozen college coaches in higher. That are pure college coaches now. That includes jim harbaugh. But jim harbaugh had a long. Nfl career and then a quarterback coach in this league. But it's a seventy five percents failure rate you know. Most of the guys have not succeeded in like for example did not have winning records and that includes well the ones that did have a winning record chip kelly but i don't think he would want to say he was a success in the nfl. Two problems with this higher urban meyer number one. you know he's got probably too much power in that could screw things up in the census. He's going to be able to find the right. Nfl players and the other one as far as that goes you know he's coaching. Grown men not young players. And what ends up happening so many times you get a college coach as demanding as him on the practice field and it turns off the players. 'cause he's asking too much in practice. They wear down in the second half of the season the more than anything else. They don't like the experience and john one last thing about that. But is it fair for and you're i understand the rate but if shouldn't we hold urban meyer. Remain the no fence to jim. Harbaugh or chip kelly. They're they're they're they're they're in a different league right with great. He really wasn't good coach. Yeah so we'll we'll see how that works out and he doesn't get twenty two four and five star guys anymore like digital how state you only get one first rider or two if you're lucky like this year for them all right john. Let's let's play four downs. The stakes are enormous. Time to play. Four downs with sean salisbury. And the professor john clayton first down if tampa bay beats green bay wi will. They have won tom. Brady i mean you know. That's the big thing. And what. I'm wondering about because you saw a little bit last week. We know that. The fox and tom brady sixty forty passing team. The last week it was kind of interesting going to war ones running the ball thirty five times and dropping back the past thirty four now we know that the packers run the ball and run it pretty. Well we'll we'll try to run it you know. They don't have. They probably won't have antonio brown. He's a game time decision but the big reason that the bucks would wins. Because tom brady and we've been to. How many championship games. He's this could be tense trip to the super bowl and you know he's been improving ever since that Well the earlier game. They lost a green bay but also They only want to gets me but also what you saw was that he did You know stay at thirty eight to three loss in new orleans. He's getting better and better and better so the reason would be tom brady john. I'm gonna take a different approach for me. It would be the defense. We saw what they did to aaron rodgers to rise above their. Because i'm already convinced tom. Brady's gonna play well in this game. The colds not going to bother him. He's he played in cold weather. So i know he's going to give me a game. I could actually put the offensive line and there. Because if he's upright he'll deliver the ball and they he will complete passes. But i think the whole thing stems from you can't let aaron rodgers take over because if both rogers and brady are at their best advantage rogers and green bay. Because he's been so good this year. I think they're win. Hinges on not allowing aaron rodgers takeover. This game i've gone with the buccaneers defensive. They're gonna win. It's going to be because of them. Because i fully expect brady to play well regardless second down i can go to the other side of that game. If green bay wins. Why will they have one. I think it's obviously going to be aaron rodgers. Now what's interesting. Is that the bucks. Last week against drew brees into saints went totally man to man and Did so well because totally shut down. Drew brees and put him on retirement path. And which you're looking at is that How are they going to match up man-to-man against devante adams or will they double him. You know what type of defense can they make adjustments on. But i still look at rogers if you're a man to man. I mean he's so good at moving around it's not like he's gonna run the ball because that's not his game. He's so mobile and in a man to man defense. I think he can make the right hits on that so i think that matchup is going to be so good to watch but I still think. Aaron rodgers as we mentioned. Hey he has the advantage in this game. He's at home. It is going to be a little bit warmer than expected to be in the mid forties but You know it's gonna be fun to see how if there's going to be any different adjustments at the bucks. Do have a great defense. There's no doubt and they're gonna play crazy and john with that. I i actually think you know. Original call was for twenty five degrees and cloudy and possible snow but at forty degrees football weather right. So it's gone up to the at least the expectations. Fifteen more degrees than i even thought this morning. That the hell who doesn't wanna play in that that's not gonna have any effect but i think the packers are going to win again. I think the quarterback play well for for me. It would be for them to give me at least a semblance of the run game because if not if it's their one dimensional with rodgers can beat you wanted to mention we know that. But if you pressure and todd bowles blitzes and blitzes and blitz and you strip sack fumble could be a problem so for me. It's going to be just make sure green bay you mix in the run game to keep it honest and win on first down if they can get four or five yards on first down and if you blitz and rogers throw hot and you catch the ball at four yards and fall for a first down they can blitz. You can still get the first down without having to punt. I actually think in normally wouldn't say this on an aaron rodgers situation. But no-one how tampa is gonna play. Rogers i would think the run game has to be somewhat relevant and if they are fine because i fully expect rogers to play. Well just like brady. It's going to be the other cats that are going to have to pick their game down. If kansas city beats buffalo wi- will they have one. It'll be because of patrick mahomes now. Everything's still looks as he's on path of be able to play it looks like he's now into the fourth stage the five stage protocol for concussions. Yesterday he was able to take all the snaps practice in a non contact situation so he should be cleared. And and the reason you favor mahomes because we clearly. He's so good but also if they are trailing and it's possible they could be trailing in the fourth quarter. He's got the best ability to bring them from behind to win while they're going to challenge for josh allen is going to be taking this on the road and trying to match up against the patrick mahomes but if they win it's going to be because of patrick. Yeah i've gone with the explosives. If kansas city wins their ability to bury you even john you mentioned if they're down fourteen points. I wouldn't panic. Mahomes the quarterback they strike so quickly. And when i say explosives it doesn't mean just throwing the deep ball. It means kelsey on a cross or at eighteen yards catches it and then runs for twenty more it means tyreek hill on a slant route that makes a guy miss and takes it to the house. It means hard men. On a on a straight go route that mahomes drops in there it means a screenplay that they run. And it can make a guy missing gained forty yards the explosives. They are such a home. Run hitting team on simple plays they turn them into big plays. I think a lot of that could be the reason. And if things are going well and they are hitting on those and everybody's involved explosive plays plus twenty yard plays in this game. If kansas city wins that'll be a big part of it fourth down. If buffalo beat kansas city. Why will they have one italy. Because of josh allen josh allen chest continuing to develop and you see how we developed a meet. The first stage was getting ten points. A game out of that offense for than he was last year particularly connecting with steph on digs. The second thing was he goes into the play offs and he finally wins playoff games. Now it's a matter taking everything on the road but you know the big thing that they're sixty forty pass team is going to work even committed more to the past in the playoffs than they did. During the regular season is going to be able to work on the road. That's gonna be the challenge for josh allen. But if he's able to conquer that. I mean you know how great he's played this season. And i think you could say that. He's come into the playoffs as the hottest quarterback not the best quarterback but the hottest quarterback is going to be because of ham torch the city chiefs defense. He's going to get hit. So i'm just telling you this isn't going to just stop. I think he got himself. Some playoff moxie learned last year in the texans game when they were up he and brian cabell both on how to approach the second. Half of the football game. Josh allen is gonna take care of his business and he will the truth. Is i'm not worried about any of these four quarterbacks. Doing their thing. They're here for a reason and a lot of it has to do with those four for buffalo to win out of body experience on defense complete out of body experience on defense. We saw some of that last week. But i got news for you as good as lamar. Jackson is a dual threat guy. Patrick mahomes poses a far bigger threat with the right arm and they did a good job. against lamar. Tell amara was hurt. Obviously but did a good job to me if leslie frazier. Defense has another out of body experience and can and could do that and actually even better than they did last week. The buffalo bills will score enough points to win this game going to be closer and scarier than people think and it'll be buffalo's defense if they walk off the field with a win. Leslie frazier. will they'll be saying. And sean mcdermott. It's been offense all year. Defense is going to have to rear their head in this one. Because josh allen will put points on the board against kansas city bonus question before we go for both of you who wins each game and what. I'm going to go with the home team. I think green bay is going to win because of your in rogers. I still think. Patrick mahomes put the cheese and the big position to win. So i go with the home team's not taking brady to win. And as good as rogers. I pick new england to win the super bowl and august. They're gonna go in there and win and brady continues the oh my gosh. Is he still doing this. After everybody continued to say now he doesn't have anymore. He's the one of the old guys it's coming back next year and you'll have a ring on his finger. They're beaten green bay on the road and in the kansas city game kansas city wins going to be close. And you think i think it's a late win by kansas city. Since mahomes is on the field they win. They're the better team and they'll get a few more stops in buffalo will. This is like a thirty four. Twenty eight twenty seven thirty four thirty one game. I think points are gonna be scored a lot in this game. Kansas city and new england. Excuse me i got them. In kansas city and tampa in the super bowl first time ever a home teams playing in their stadium. Johnny great stuff enjoy great football weekend. We'll do it again next week. But thank you. That's great john. Clayton sportstalk seventy specs. Pick of the week and wrapping this up. Grad cook is in the house with d. Kalou at the top of the hour. Great stuff coming right back. Dan house here. 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It's still sticking their at time when you see like if they came out today and said patrick mahomes has cleared. You're see an immediate jump in that line so get on it while it's hot right so three and a half in the green bay tampa game. I'm going to go over that way. I said the beginning to your. I thought tom brady would win. Another one and i think it's the they're playing their best football at the right time. This is usually his style. Aaron rodgers is the mvp league. And i'm gonna go with three and a half point dogs. I'm taking tampa bay hell. I'm not only taking tampa bay to get inside the spread. I've taken him straight out right to win the game. I got tampa bay going on the road. Forty degree now. I'm sure green bay forty degree weather a little easier for them with meaning tampa. Although when you got aaron rodgers you're feeling pretty secure tampa bay minus three or excuse me plus three and a half points i got. 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Westbrook Traded for Wall, Pre-Game Rituals, Old School vs New School Teams & Texans Players on Suspension

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Westbrook Traded for Wall, Pre-Game Rituals, Old School vs New School Teams & Texans Players on Suspension

"Houston art radio station. The astro astro the rockets. Your home for your home. Teams visit sportstalk seven ninety from the classics shitty sugarland studios find new roads. Shots all time. French shos very. This is sean salisbury. Show nothing to see or hear. Hear absolutely not not in We don't have ever anything talk about us and unfortunately it has been many championships slightly. Yeah it's either. Trades or suspension suspension. Airings right quit agent. Pdf change in front office is all speculation about well. Who's next when it comes to sports. Franchises free agent signings will be happening sooner than later in baseball. I mean it is. It's wacko emcees here. Andrew green today producing for us and not aboard grateful to have him here jumping to add some duties to his already busy schedule. So it's great to have him here Welcome in brother good to have you. Thanks sean good to have you take well. I don't i guess we can't say it's a shock. I don't know if it's an upgrade. But i do know this. At least i believe this and it's not a knock. Well maybe it is. I guess emcee good to have you back hope. It was a a good day for you. Considering the circumstances a celebration of life there you go. So i hope i hope everything was okay. Good to have you back in studio this. Will you trade rest for what john wall. And a first round pick say get an asset and a star swap. The other star hasn't really hasn't been on the court since about two thousand eighteen in december of twenty eight so two years from this month. I believe it is great round there with the exact date and russ with all. The experiment lasted a year number. Twenty six okay. So we're just under two years. Yeah right around your christmas celebration right around opening day. Now december twenty second right so with that go he owned and john wall here explosive talent better shooter than russ not a great. That's being a better shooting in. The russell may not be a great thing. But we're thirty two percent from three. I saw some guy twitter. Say well we got a better a better player. I don't know. I don't know if the do you could say john. Walls a better player dealing with an mvp anna guy. Two seasons as average triple double. I believe how. I'm going to third. But i know to russell westbrook's russ is going to get to do what he wants to do. He going back to washington. They're are not they're not gonna they're just gonna kinda hang around as a team. He's going to get his triple double and bradley. Beal is going to continue to be the robin to batman and robin trail and put up all star numbers and play good basketball and he'd russ isn't gonna win a title. There east is easier. Russell put up numbers and he'll be playing in the all star game period these health. That's just a that's what's gonna hear. You hope you can get a healthy. John wall shoot a little bit. Better another star. That's gonna have to take a backseat to james. You got a lot of what if what if buggies fully healthy. What if john wall's fully healthy and shoots the best of his career. You're gonna squad sure you do. I mean you might. If you have the best case scenarios run run out for those two players. James is still here are in contention. Might have the best team you've ever had with because you have three legit all star. Maybe a what if but as far as the talent at all three the. I'm just talking about the raw ability. Yeah see with russ and james raw ability. Didn't have the center with that raw ability because you know cappella on his way out and quite. Let's let's face facts. Cappella ain't a healthy boogie. Cousins never has been right when boogie cousins is healthy and the guys all star in a double double guy and and bring some attitude to it now. The question is are those what ifs going to be answered day. I mean a- meaning is to go the other way. Well what if book he plays thirty five games and is hurt or what. If john wall doesn't scenarios just real saying wall have both come off of achilles in need injury. Teeter totter when you're sitting on it and the kid going back and forth and it kinda blatant here anyways a little bit more than all of a sudden somebody else gets on. Say well let me let me even this out in their little a little heavier and boom it comes to the other side and it's not balanced that could could easily be one of the more blatant ones. Oh both guys who. Both guys are healthy. Oop somewhere in between it's then it's balanced who knows but for raw ability if they all reach it. This is his talented squad. they will have had. Since i've lived here agree. I think it's the most talented squad have had as long as everything's going doesn't always equal wins and losses. I mean wins and sometimes it's it it can get out of hand. Listen john wall is a different cat. He is the i mean. There's not there's not a whole lot of peace that surrounds him. When it comes to basketball correct he said but you know what rus had always had a little bit of dramas around him those james so and so's demarcus cousins. I mean what. I say dr rama right whether you yeah. I guess it's really redundant when you say nba. It's like it's the acronym for drama. Basically what it is. You know what i'm saying. So it is interesting and not shocking. But i will tell you this and i believe this and it's not i don't even know if i mean it negative but i guess it would come off as that. I'm starting to wonder maybe not starting to wonder maybe it's been validated. I've been wondering if for a while as good as he is as much as i like him and we not starting to wonder that every time somebody else comes here that there's a certain guy who make if he doesn't like it they leave. Yeah they gotta run them out. No it's it's thing isn't it. James has got to be the foundation of you. Come but if you gotta go. I gotta get you out. We know why is being why he's been so pissy this offseason right. Because they're telling him. Now you have to adjust to what we're gonna do right if we adjust what you want right. Because they're broaden guys that i don't think james harden probably sitting there saying he got trade rest for john wall. Hey and as you go. I mean i'm sure he's finally demarcus cousins. Because that was a one the christian would thing made sense on the heart and had been working out with him in the summer or the winter. Whatever the hell this guy almost almost like even though the difference is is almost like a mentor. It was the first time that the team has changed dramatically in a short period of time. And it's and it's not because james wanted it. Oh no no no jan. There's a new coach like they're telling james our dude. You've been doing it your way forever. It's time to do it all right now. The question is going to buy into the our way or are they going to buy into his way in the way they approach off showed up camp yesterday which we plan on time. Maybe a good thing. The rockets again in the reports. Say that they're not shopping him which i completely believe. Why would you shop him. It'd be stupid unless you're literally getting a massive hall in return. I think they're going to go into the season with this squad and see if it works and after the season if it doesn't then try and right and that would be matter of fact if it doesn't work this this season then he'd be i man out when to i mean he. They shop in big time i would think year left on. Go ahead move on from right. I just i like. I said there's a part of me that i'm excited enough rockets basketball because for the first time in years they're not going back with the same group right that we see it all the time. We talk about a- recently with that clippers team with chris paul and blake griffin. And all those like they kept running same team back every year and nothing changed and the rockets scene was becoming that they're on the same thing back. Basically every single year with a few pieces chain here there but training get eliminated the plow. Not the most change sanity and speaking the clippers. Now the talk that players didn't like it quietly. Who lived in san diego while they played in la. But then also obviously the bubble. And that that. Paul george and him get special treatment on linda schedule practice. And that would just going what we re in the was in the athletic. I think these guys are planning right. And paul george now has said that he in the rivers didn't use him right. Isn't it amazing how they always say this when the guys out the building. Why didn't you say doc was saying you're not using me right so we can see this on. No you wait till he leaves. Because you're afraid coach. And then when he leaves and then players were more bothered by the paul george equivalent treatment for leonard because well the question is what the hell's he done in the to win a title. Va one one. Does he get preferential treatment. Playoff p. right. So there's there's some discontent code. Honor was with the clippers in players. I listen i understand superstars get treated a little bit different. I understand if doc rivers and clipper say you know what win. We're playing in. La if y if you wanna live in san diego and make that commute whether it's driving you gotta helicopter to drop you off. You wanna take the train. I don't care. But here's what i do care about and i know if this is going by what we read and play what people are saying from a reputable source. Don't be late. you don't realize what's going to once. I see that's one thing i get. Listen you never gonna treat chad henny the way you treat patrick mahomes. Why will it's called. Life pecking order the got. Co we got president sales. Espn starts to work down. I hate to say it when it comes to the pecking order of certain people. That are big time. Moneymakers for a company or an organization or sports franchise are the show. Guess what patent homes rear ends in the stands. Chad henny may not so guess who jimmy johnson say. Ain't treating troy in the same way treated the backup jason garrett just not doing it but you are treating trae. C'mon jake and and And jason garrett or chad henne. Patrick mahomes the same. When it comes to being on time in rules you get it and so to me. I'm telling you when stuff like that creeps in. I am a firm believer too big reason. Why the clippers. Kinda did you start to get too comfortable in the stuff. That's not the small things that make sense. They tell you that book. Don't sweat the small stuff. But i can tell you this when it comes to building home. Building a franchise and the champion champion. You've got yeah. See because if you don't do the small things guess the damn last dance in jordan grinded on small things and to the tune of six twenty. He was a fricken maniac to the tune of. If you don't do the small things. The foundation crumbles a lot easier. And then then the big thing. You don't get a chance to get to do the big things if you do. The small things here in position to do the big things and they. I'm just telling you that stuff creeps. I've been on teams. that's that's happened. Where get a little laxed in guy showing up a little later. I was on a team that the year before with a coach people would kind of go out and he wasn't. He was old school and it was burgundy and he was. He's been you know burns. He's been a leak forty years right and and we all loved him but guys would sometimes come. We'd be in stretching lines and practice would start. Let's say practice started. Three right stretching lines started. Three guys will be rolling out of the tape room. You know coming out from tape in the locker room at times putting on their gear not fully dressed. It'd be three eight by the time. They started stretching line. And you know what i'm saying. Still putting their gear on the drill. Start instead of dude. Practice didn't say three. Oh seven or three hundred here and when denny showed up. This was at burns his last year in burns. He was great. But you know he's a veteran. Et expects vet treats it was different. Hell the oakland raiders back in the day with john. I mean not a lot of rules. Just play your ass off. Don't embarrass the franchise and and prepare yourself. Yeah and they did well but some teams can't handle that so there was times and i'm not dog teammates because we all got the point. Where the at that point. It was like veteran coach. Love veteran players know how to police yourself. So you know we do. You didn't even even me putting tape on in the middle of mike third or fourth year third year four my career and you start walking out there. It's like oh well if the star can be late august walk out with him so i get to. The stretch is three. Oh to i'm not going to get fined with coach isn't going to be met. Didn't really make a big deal of it and you didn't really think about until the next came in now. I'm sure burns. You is a lot more at that point time. A little more stringent early in his career right. But they use kind of okay. They kind of police themselves. A veteran coach and that was the way it was done. I'm sure a lot of franchises. That guys i've talked to but then and he even said it. There's a new sheriff in town. And when danny green walked into you didn't show up to practice three four. Put your pads on. I'm just telling you didn't and we were better not the burns. He wasn't a great coach. It's just at the time shift was needed for you. Kind of perked backup all hell now. Three zero one. And you're gonna get fine what we needed here. Stephen silas implementing that from the right. So the clippers. I believe you're superstar one. nba title. But he i'll shows up every third day late and then everybody's kind of looking over. What's your initial thoughts. Even if you're not a star and you love choir you love paul george size non invested right and it's like wait a minute and then instead of focusing on a practice you're going through and during when you get over there getting water and gatorade you know saying is that to get shop light ring ring ring. Toronto not dog. But you get my point and then all of a sudden what happens you think tim. Duncan would take popovich for granted and show up practice late. No never never now. We know why. I love the spurs bingo. The constant the structure right and danny green put structure. And the reason i used was bobby. Ross was the same way military guy. You don't show to bobby. Ross practices if you did you were in trouble and everybody else stretch lines because if you did you start to panic like all hell i'm gonna find or coaching to call me in. And that was the way it was and with this team with the clippers. I believe those things. 'cause it now here do the little things man to lead the big things and then gotta have health. We'll continue to discuss emcees here along with andrew. Green is in the house today produce the show. I'm here. We'll take your calls on russell westbrook for john wall who won that one and a first round pick obviously comes with john wall. It is sports talk. Seven ninety. Were here until ten o'clock good to have you a lot to discuss. Coaching carousel is going to start to hit hard here too in college in the nfl. Sportstalk seven ninety. Sean salisbury show continued. This can sportstalk. seven ninety. Welcome in adrian. adrian. Wojnarowski was simply known as jr in these parts. Well really in all the parts. He does drop one of those last night. remember when he was getting scooped. Donald up by shams uddin like it. And then yeah you. He's not petty about it. He got the scoop on that one. There you go. you've got four little sounders here talking about rockets and want to keep harden what role john wall of bring to the rockets. How deal came together. When i think thought that it was kind of done and then bradley. Beal's future with the wizards were russ's going and bradley. Beal john wall there was obvious contention there and rally builds a hell of a player. So have a listen. And here's what said on all those issues yesterday. Houston stance has not changed. They expect the playthrough here with james harden they don't wanna trade him and they have think they have more of a cushion at work with in washington does because bills free agency comes up sooner but the hope and is that walkin regain some of his old form that those two can find the chemistry and that james harden starts to think again about wanting to stay longer term with the rockets but right now they plan to certainly start the season with james harden and john wall is their backcourt. They think they're getting a player. Who wants to be with the rockets and who has shown in the months since you know has been working out this summer that he's got some explosion back he's expanded his game shooting a three pointer well with all of this time off washington and houston head back talked really since before the draft about trade until raphel stone the houston. Gm tommy sheppard in washington. Got on the phone fat fouche. Who who's russell westbrook's asia with wasserman. He was really a proponent of of these sides just to get them talking again and played a role in wants stone. And shepard got on the phone today. They had a deal within a couple of hours. He's got a year left on his deal. He can become a free agent in two thousand twenty one. And it's going to be incumbent on the wizards and russell westbrook inner to make him want to stay. I know this about russell westbrook. There's been criticism of him about the kind of teammate. He has been. And i know that really bothered him because he takes great pride in being a great teammate. And i think most guys who played with them will vouch for that and so i think he goes to washington very motivated To to build a good partnership with bradley beal well russ is going to be the show again. That's adrian the loj bombs. But i think this this wasn't one of bombs because we kind of wondered and then we said well maybe this steals off the table because well it camp starting and then bingo there it goes. But so i but i wouldn't say it was like. Oh my gosh surprise. When happened but talking about john wall and what he brings to the table us. We're better shooter than rush. So i'm just at seven one three two one two five seven ninety no klay thompson and in golden state portland's going to be solid is going to be solid New orleans is going to be better. Dallas is going to be good. Utah's playoff type. Roster the lakers clippers are both at lakers actually improved their roster. This offseason the question. Is you know the the load. And how much can you handle and kit. Are you hungry to win another one. And maybe they are lebron every anytime we questioned him. you'll have him at least within striking distance You know memphis with John marantz really. You know the fun fun. Watch right so you start to go down and we've got one hell of there's going to be a couple of good teams left off when when we get in now. The rockets improved roster if the health is there and if john and james worked i don't even know if john and james r wallin hardener tight. They were in miami recently together working out right so wall on the you know one of the highlights getting up and down the floor. Purdue changes down there in miami for a few weeks those i was. i like. i'm taking this is. There's definitely a relationship with all these guys and they are. We saw bogie tweeted last night. He's excited about. It clearly. seems like a hardened type guy just mean when i say that just meaning i think heart knows what would cousins can bring to the table. If he's healthy. Yeah and you know. I would think that a guy like harden. If you don't get game we've got to get into is get into hungary guys to re prove again and take still playing only been beaten down by injuries who have been all stars and who won. Got his big big mac. Contra matter of fact. I think wall makes more than jay. He's next just a little bit of the contracts. Are the exact same. You just literally flopping flipping contract and got a first round pick. Yeah and then. Then there's cousin. To one point time remember was a well in truth he was a supermax type past the big matt. That's exactly right after the. I mean he didn't get the big max max but he got a short term. Max offer passed on from the pelicans ago taking one year. Five with with the got hurt. He got hurt again. Yep and it's it's a bummer. But if you can close your dot not while you're driving but if you set back and that was how good was demarcus cousins. Well one twenty four and twelve. Yeah at one. Point was considered the most gifted big man in the league. He just was. Yeah i mean when. I talk about being a guy who's a center. Whose athletic attitude did it all. I mean before he got to shoot the two years dirt three years before got hurt. He averaged twenty seven eleven. Twenty seven and eleven twenty five and thirteen. If you'd go twenty seven eleven on a playoff team guess where that puts you an. Mvp talk that. I mean it just look at the. Mvp share see of how many votes he kind of sure he got some votes so but but he was known around the league. I mean you know how everybody. He was held in tremendously high regard. He get more time all star so the guy can play and it just all comes down to you know hunger shape and and health from the look of it when you go see the videos like it looks like he looks like he's in the best shape he's ever been take he keeps trimming off the fact because he was always the older. You get the tremor. You need to be yeah. He's thirty year old man. He looks like he's an incredible especially with injuries. To take the pressure off your legs and the rest of it and and watch the highlights. John wall he looks like he's got his explosiveness back. Yeah and so. We'll see it's a risk to take on injured guys right. The rockets are taking a mask. This thing could blow up in their face. It could so quickly but guess what okay so this blows up in their face and it doesn't work when you gotta win and you and you stood pat. Russell gets hurt too. And you stood pat and you won five extra games during the regular season. We got eliminated. The plus. what's the honestly. What's the difference in the nba. This is brought back some excitement. Because it's something dif- don't you wanna see what wall and cousins are bringing to the table. Don't you want to see what silas in per don't you wanna get with the naked. I'd say what are they going to do. Now there. there's some movement things are going on. They take listen the only way. I know how to get the fruit. Though the the fruit you want sometimes you gotta go out on that limb a little farther and that branch gets a little rickety right because the farther you go out the less sturdy it is but when you get it if it doesn't break that i know that it's cheesy but it's true then that's the guy's a little injured got some history but if they're right that's a right piece of fruit you're gonna grab dance. Could be ripe for a hell of a run. If if you give me seventy five games from cousins and wall type. I mean you give me that much. I'm hoping for sick right. But i'm saying if you seventy five. Seventy two seventy five. Were the first round of the playoffs right. But if you give me fifty five. I'm happy to help me between sixty to sixty five. Then we'll be good right. That's what i'm saying so put it this way. They're all on the court. I can't see i mean if they're healthy i can't see cousins and wall not plan now may not. You may not like some of the basketball. But i can't see it being pretty good too fun to watch. It's gonna take a minute to build some chemistry course. It is and then if they changed the offense of approach. It's going to take a minute for james to. I hope james is sitting back in. I'm willing to try a different approach. I hope stephen silas stands firm and says we can't play this type of basketball now. There's times when we got superstars. Dude you bring it up and you do whatever you want. We need to go take a night. We're jam not missing a damn thing. I say i it up. Dude go ahead thing and you know what that's why they get paid that big money. Take over dude. It's you the rest of us are playing very well go go win about ballgame co superstars and basketball have more impact than e superstar because smaller. They can control again more than any other player in sports they can. And so they'll be those nights but the night that he may have to sacrifice a little to get a lot plus no no fence and i don't. I'm not worried about the field. Good business but but both wall and cousins are going to want a little love. They're gonna wanna know the mean superstar attitude man and that's okay and if you give him some love maybe thanks change around. You got three team now for the first time or that. Have that mentality. Yes they've never daryl for years chased having three and remember he's got three with them in. It's about the of the to coming back and showing it. They're still all three been all all three have been the man all three were in position or have been paid and all three are used to be in the man. The question is can you not be. The man is still feel. Like you're part of the man. Does that make sense. Yeah meaning a. Oh okay that i still got. And every now. And then we're going to have to have john wall takeover and he's going to have to have one of those thirty and ten nights right where it's at night. He's got to step up a little bit. Different cousins gonna give you the the twenty full of all of them have been. Oh that's an mvp kalbarri barrel christian woodward forgetting about him too because people love him and they're very excited to see him and both of them can be on the floor at the same time because would could play the four as well. Yeah you know they could interchangeable depending on how you want to do it because he can pop out and hit and so can cousins. All right ed. You get some rim-protector guys with the physicality which i like it. Sportstalk seven ninety our number one. Well we got a little bigger next. Okay poll question right here on sports. Seventy dot com. You can find it right here on sports. Talk seventy your back. This is the sean salisbury shown question. Just one question one question. This is a big one question of the day. On the sean salisbury. Show that i think Pretty easy which way we're going with this one who won. The trade rockets are wizards miley pushes. I mean you can give an initial win-lose right. Yeah you know how do we all we pre win the trade pretty damn close initially because even with walls injury history of late like russell. Westbrook wasn't the best fit for the rockets james harden. It was clear we watched it last year. Like he had a great. And i don't want to discount when he did before the shutdown happened. He played some of the best basketball his career as efficient as ever he stopped shooting threes. Set it on this show. Yeah i mean. He was shooting fifty percent from the field. Averaging you know there a good too much stretch where average thirty points per game. He was awesome regius playing basketball on the team. He was the as better than better chairman when they came back from the bubble with everything he was asked. Well he there's no other way round had injury at the coronavirus but he was asked. He went back to being out of control. Russ yes and that guy. And we saw teams defended in the postseason. They didn't they let him stand there. They him into taking threes. He did it and he can't get out of his way. Like i think it's i think it's okay to say that the rockets wanted even if the guy's got injury concerns but based on the injury concerns i think most people say well. The wizards do because they got in the national media is going full on. They got an mvp russell. Westbrook bradley bail russell westbrook. He's going to be reinvigorated going to be doing the narrative changes like that. When you leave houston apparently. Oh there's no question that the without question it's changed every time somebody's left it's amazing and it is all. There's no question outside of this town. It's going to be no brainer. Washington won the trade. I'm just telling you what's going to come into play as well. He's regardless of russia's banged up for game here to say we haven't seen the guy to court since two thousand eighteen. They're gonna put john wall in with damarcus cousins and the injury. They're they're gonna just say plus you put him with another guy who's injured. They're gonna start to say well houston losses trae big time even though they get an asset with first round pick and then they'll get the delta caveat at the end will be buddy of john walls and boogie cousins are healthy. Then we'll revisit this later to cover both sides say say see i told you if they were healthy but the the narrative i think nationally is gonna say washington won. The trade gets my gut locally. I think people here are gonna say well we get a first round and we you flopped you swap stars that are making the same money similar type players love to attack the rim. Little bit of a. I don't know if attitude i mean. Look i think love russ loves basketball more than most guys i. I think he i think russ loves to. He's got a great. Yeah right. there's no question so they they gain that but john wallet is best remembered people used to. He was a explosive scoring dynamic player when he came out of school the kentucky and and when he's healthy they've now of aside from the the fit with john with bradley beal back and forth. We've heard that for. Its feels like a half a dozen years does it feels like we've been hearing that the narratives never felt like they always pushed walled. Be the guy and said bill. You need to be his robbed. That's exactly right. John wall needs to be the robin man and bill just dealt with an just kept playing right. Yeah so now. They've cleared it. How will russ and bradley beal. But i think national narratives gonna say well you get the mvp triple double guy better player here. We're gonna say you're getting similar guy but shoots a little bit better and is gonna be hungry. Listen the the deals good for both bradley beal needed john. And i need a refresher. Yes not only the franchises both players. Yeah because washington somebody the job you couldn't kept going forth wall and beal it enough and here it's like it was almost as if people okay. We'll live with it but it wouldn't hurt their feelings if rust moved on right after the talk completely fine right and we've begged for something to be different and look credit raphael fieldstone. Says he's taken over. He's coming and made things completely different a rookie and blink of an eye. Just i mean if you wanted like say oh man changes good you got it. You got a whole bunch of different ways because we can look back at it. Now and daryl morey did a lot of great things. The the russell was portrayed that he made was horrible all the way round. Trae as we look at it posts. But you know at least daryl. He took a shot and said let's see didn't work didn't work now they take in the show. We'll find out and guess. What if john wall's deal doesn't work. Guess what john. John wall james harden. You'll move you may move on from both in the next two years. If he doesn't work. If the great thing happens for john wall it will be beyond him bouncing back and regaining his value and then a year from now maybe a ship him out more draft assets if john rockets windows still incredibly short no question if john walls all star this year the guess what then. You're going to sit back and say okay. Well russell westbrook's in austria. Yes but the change needed to happen. It just did and so the poll questions up sports seven ninety on twitter retweeted or go in there and make your vote. I i like this here i get. Why washington gonna like it. Both needed a reboot a reset. And let's get it going on. And i think both win and depending on how you feel about the first round asset great to it's it's a draft pick and it's an asset we know like for its oklahoma city and new orleans teams that. Gather them up to use subways. Everybody's got a little bothered by the protections of it last night this protections do stink. They they less view and there was a one could become two second round. Picks is not going to become two second round picks in eight years. The pickle conveyance some point but the likelihood of the rockets even keeping this pick. I think is slim like say done. Nothing but get draft picks because if they're really good this season gets they're going to ship them out other players added this team and you're not gonna get to eight years with this draft. Pick getting the to. It's not going to happen right. Is he gonna be moved somewhere else along the line or could be there. You know it's like the. It's like the sixteenth. Pick in the draft right. If the if the wizards make the playoffs this year the east the rockets get earn next year. whenever year. it is in east. They may get the pick right. And that's fine and you could still use it or like you said you move into it. Say put it this way. It doesn't hurt to have an extra asset and it's not going to get because you're long gone before eight years hit because they gave up getting move him on what to first round pick swap right in the dam in the west riding. Yes so i mean like they had to get assets while also getting players. What's not to like. i wanna change. People want to change. Guess what you got it. And if you're not a little bit excited. I was blah about the season. Starting i really was. Oh when he told me in november when you've been when they said november starting camp and then trying to get the draft and free agency and then we're starting to the not only camp and we're gonna be nba games. They're gonna start december twenty six. I thought you were on crack. You know when the nba so you out of your mind. And then the pandemic scott people going wacko. Well guess what now. They've done this at least for me. I'm like okay with the december. Twenty second star if they are ya me to write sports. Sportstalk seven ninety. I'm looking forward to it. I can't wait to see the change with the new uniforms. Look like somebody got hot and bothered about the city. The city edition right uniform on the website dot com there. He goes sportstalk. We should debate this seven nine. Let's we'll have fun with andrew. Green is here producing the show today along with mc. I'm here join in. Who won that trade seven one. Three two five seven hundred and oh by the way the texans. They got to move on from there to suspensions and see if they can get one from the colts. Sean southborough listen to john. Paul's berry hallsberg. John salisbury ninety home. If i suppose baseball sports talk seven ninety. Rus out john wall in a first round picks in contracts pretty much the same so john actually makes it a little bit more money than than russell westbrook. I guarantee washington feels like they won and needed to clear some house with john wall after not only the injuries but bradley beal like. He's pretty rehabilitated. Injury wise when you watch some highlights of his explosiveness this well. We call it this off season this month. We've had or whatever it is and then we know russ westbrook will i. My guess is. He'll probably average a triple double again or close. They've russ is healthy. Yes out right numbers that went down when he came here. He batted ball in his hand. Because bradley bill is of. He's you don't have to you know he's the offense is through him. But it's not through him with the ball pretty unselfish player for really good player average. Thirty points a game lineup from outside so you get that And it so i'm excited. I'm excited about it and by the way we're nba note. Anthony davis has apparently agreed deal. He's going back to the lakers for a five year. One hundred ninety million dollar deal. I hope he's okay. That's gonna live on macedo family. I think he could probably afford those two houses that he has now nail area. Because when you live in a city you definitely need to houses in it. I know he's trying to trade or sell one of them but still and he's got two houses in los angeles. What so that's why would we say. Five years five years ninety. He can opt out after four. So what does that. About thirty seven a year thirty five years. he is the way they structured. It is thirty two point. Seven thirty five point. Three thirty seven point nine forty point six and then forty three point two so close the average about seven so all right so rough. I tell you what i hope. He's okay gonna win an mvp before he's done. He's got a talented poisoned. The right team now where he's going to get votes from the media and they got younger speaking of that and and i'm glad you brought that up. Lebron james was discussing his team in thirteen. And fourteen here Andrew he was talking about repeating and about getting younger and they did both. Here's lebron james said about his basketball club in los angeles and we grabbed twenty-seven-year-old point guard. We've got a twenty seven year old six year war and trade is You know we we young mark you know. We got a defensive player of the year in his. I q plan against not only the name be able also plan to get some versus spain and about getting younger thereby man we can. I mean is that simple. I mean we absolutely can like rj said with the nets. I had all sorts of health. Yeah you have to. You have to have some luck and you have the health and so flip the got younger and they can repeat what he believes healthy right and he assigns an extension for what two years which keep playing. He's gonna try to man's brady. He's waiting for his damn kid. Get a league. I would think so and watch the year before the lakers are going the tank. Everybody's gonna get hurt and can then they'll draft brian and they'll be out. They'll be on the court together. You think if brady makes a basket and lebron wanted dad decima do you think would have brawny. Lebron makes a basket and brawny and give it to brawny and the scores table at the end of the wind correcting yeah cricket and broad span. What the hell that was by tire. And all those point yeah. Exactly do you think he's he would. What would happen if his kids screws up. Does he pull the. I walk the the typical lebron walk off the court. Oh yeah yeah. I always wonder about that. Because i think we're all i know having three kids. I was a little tougher on mine. That i would have been on somebody else if i coached him early and then became a dad meaning stayed away from that little league fan down the right field or left field line in a lawn chair. Because i don't wanna hear all the nonsense and just let my kids play. I try to teach them right young. And then we get to a when they're in the eighth and ninth grade and seventh grade okay. I'll trust the other guy. You know how to wear a hat backwards at shortstop and we're planning a baseball right and you don't throw your glove on the mound when so orrin basketball you hustle up and down the court. You know the whole thing all that you don't play just offense those things and i want to be a dad and let them do because you know how it is when your dad. It's funny you can tell for instance. I can t all train quarterbacks their their dad played quarterback like in high school and in college and he'll tell them something and then i could tell him the same thing because the hires me yet. The dad play quarterback of the hire me. Tell them saying that. Data laugh. Because when. I'm talking to him but you know how it is and it same with mike is i can tell you. Don't respond to somebody else. They just do love you. But it's like well here goes parents would being parents and somebody could tell them the exact same thing like i told you that eight years ago. Yeah yeah. the data came from showed writing right by kids here. Let me teach you how to throw. Yeah yeah right dad. Somebody else who didn't throw starts talking okay. That makes sense for some videos. Didn't we not talk about grim four years ago. Same thing here with this is it. I would imagine lebron that fine line of being a dad at competitor and both come into play right. He seems like he's more of a friend than even a father right and that because he's like the kid drink already. I'm the one a bad dad. Well i'm not gonna judge dad friend and then coach in order for me. And you flip. Flop has early on your dad. I coach second. Because you're everybody wants to be around their kid. And then i got the point. Where like. I said somebody else coach them. I'm just going to be the dad and support him that way and hopefully they've learned the right way to do it now. You go dad mode on the floor. When you're playing with brian at that point and then the that's exactly beat him down. Because i don't even know about at that but you are grounded. That turnover was unacceptable. You seem dad's a little league. It'll go off more on their kid because they think their kids supposed to hit a thousand right. Yeah i mean or you're supposed to average forty can't average thirty six. I mean i'm not done. We've all been around that parent who is so much tougher. I don't mind being tough from. I was tougher on my kids discipline. Wise not disciplined on the field. It was disciplined after the games on the dreaded. The ride home the. That's that's my. And i was disciplined both but i would probably expectations expected my kid to do it. A little fundamentally a little more right than somebody had no well. That's normal for all of us. I always wonder for those guys like ken. Griffey senior and junior. When do you get to the point where you say. I kids pretty good. I don't need to play coach anymore. I'm dad and my love and let him work through his mistakes on his own without me. If he wants to talk about it he can come to me. I don't need to browbeat. I'm not saying lebron saying anybody where it's that's gotta be a fine line when they're that good. You know when you get the point when jelly bean bryant kobe. and and with the manning's to the point where she said i to tell in. Patan a damn thing you know. Now you've got the young one the cooper's kid thick about all the different approach adad cooper cooper's dad but says and he was a pretty good football players watterson until he got hurt. And then go. Yeah it's arch manning in louisiana. Go on and say well which brother you're gonna take their advice from the ankle. I would listen to payton. Or i'd start with peyton. Yeah but he lives pretty damn good and then you say well the dad who raised these guys in a mama livian. Archie are like archie. Had to tell peyton and he raised peyton. Eli so the old man. Wisdom might come into play too so think about that. Who do you go with lebron. He's got one dude. You don't need teaching from anybody else. You're pretty good at teaching her. The iq basketball. So we'll see how that works out. But i think you're right. I think at some point they're gonna be on the court together. I think he'll think he's gotta last week out right now and you know what. How cool is that right to me. It's cool for them. Some we don't see happen. I mean it's very rare right out. Cool as you get at the starting lineup at you know when they're at the staples center and you and your kid. If it happens that we get to run out there. I hope he gets drafted by like the clippers. Now actually it'd be pretty good right them or like you know the the sacramento kings of the hornets or something. Don't put that on off the hornets. A sacramento that manica gordon hayward now i know they're right so they're stupid day they are stacked he says he. He likes the young guys. Gordon hayward feels pretty good. Well of course he is. That's when you got one hundred twenty million bucks when you say everything. Nice about a team. That's not good. Exactly right sportstalk. Seven hundred hour number two the pittsburgh game yesterday. They look very good. Mike tomlin lit up his team a little bit as far as their effort to so discussing. What's that look like. Jv team effort. We've all been part of that. Mike tomlin has no problem. Mincing words steelers stay eleven and now the talk begins will look at the schedule as well in this hour and say can they go sixteen and the texans chance to win and to prove that they can do it without to their starters. Sports talk seven hundred. Gabe houston heart radio station the astro sastra's baseball the rockets. Skip your home for your home. Teams this is sports. Talk seven nine hundred. From classic chevy sugarland studios find new roads shot homemade longtime friend. Sean very this is the sean salisbury. Show our number two. You know you mentioned those uniforms the new rockets uniforms. I wanna get to the texans here shortly as well as what we saw in the national the wednesday afternoon game which watched it wasn't pretty but steelers and we'll talk about. Can the steelers go sixteen talks going to start. We might as well give our opinion on it but these new uniforms. I love the new uniforms. If you've seen the new rockets uniforms every year out for savor team in the nba does a city edition of a uniform. Right did love last year. At the city edition for the rockets was the throwback. I think that should be their regular uniform all the time. The ketchup mustard but go to the website sports. Seventy dot com rockets released their city addition uniforms last night. They are the i. Don't love them saying h town across it. I think h town phrases stupid drives me. I've never liked it But i don't ever use it. I don't either. They are oilers colors columbia blue and red. The why. I think they are amazing in a bunch of people on the internet. Got only this. Oh you're using some the team that left us. I don't care it's part of the. We've begging in this city to have those colors back. Because i think a lot of people don't like the fact that stuff is gone and if the rockets want to use it for a year for a jersey. They go into once a week like cool. I think it's awesome. They look amazing. So check them out again at the plug. I think it's i think it's a great idea. I've trying to figure out how going to do the same city jersey every year right of course and how many tell often do they wear that. The flashback once every friday. Okay so once a week right you know. It wasn't a friday. Then it'd be a was i. Just i don't understand why people the the the for instance as a raider fan. If i lived in oakland i'm not going to be. I'm not spending my life a bitterness because they moved to vegas. I'm just not now. Because ed right peo- it's the same with cleveland in baltimore right and art modell. Yeah but there comes a point in time that well. I'm not going to support him with the players. Didn't have anything to do with it right. The uniform mean i'm talking about was it was just about the organization when people are bitter. I understand your bitterness by us gonna so for thirty years. You're gonna hold the grudge and we'll the took history right. They took the history and the uniform took all of it. Like they took it with them to tennessee. And it's part of maybe she's never been left behind. But my new franchise they're bright. There's no question all of it should have stayed here. I get it but it didn't so my point is still know. You don't have to support the tennessee. Titans hell no just like here. Because the oilers left and became the tennessee. Titans right is that how we kind of put it right. Became the oiler right. And then right nashville eventually ended up. In there in nashville. My point is is that you don't. I don't know why. Oh i wouldn't wear those jersey cuts i. I'm not mad at the for the colors that people win they were here loved them. There's an affinity. I don't mean to me. It's okay be pissed at the ownership pissed. They took everything. Whoever made the decision that they get to take it all with them fine. But i'm not going to be better at a uniform to once we change. You can't stand the color. They left us the oilers. So i'm gonna take it out on. The rockets has nothing to do with their color scheme to used before. I just think it's really cool. I agree i'm okay again. Little bit of changed ever heard anybody at ain't etched in stone. It ain't gonna make a. I mean on watching this friday. They weren't just stop it. Keep it moving. Yeah mad at but adams of the the be mad at the rockets for wearing colors when they were here. People love the oiler. The sweet out their uniforms were sweet. Yeah the the color scheme is frigging sweet and so we haven't had it in the city for right. Texans aren't allowed to wear stupid reasons not no bitterness towards. I love them. Maybe if people wanna tell us for stupid for liking it. But i'm not a lot of people on the internet last night. Getting like these. You're totally rip it off the scheme of a of a of a t of a franchise that left in a team. That wasn't gooden was choke artist. Shut up get off your get off your look. I can't understand you like the rockets. You don't like whatever. Your personal vendettas about them but like to not like uniform because it was a team to show has nothing to do with your history. It's a jersey. They were once a week. Get get off my lawn de listen my whole thing too is i could care less if you hate the jersey. Jersey colors cool. There's a lot of jersey komo say that's an ugly one. You know we like others more fine. And if you don't like the rockets the rock. I don't dislike a team because their uniforms. Ever and i don't i may i may be pissed it ownership. Listen i have the same thing now. The chargers okeydoke dust in san diego. I played there and that's my hometown team that i grew up watching even though they're not my favorite team. That's what i san diego. I listen if dean spanos walked up to me. Treated me good when i was there. Then my bummed and say bitter standards a little bit dif- right because forced him right and the wasn't trying to release right and they're gonna put the new stadium and they felt the pressure. The line was mark and this has been going on for a long time and so they can get their facility. They moved but they're still here. Sandy my buddies it make comments and social media but there's still some of them are like gripping better then. I got a couple of buddies from high school. That are big time charge fan. You know what they do. They just drive up to la and watch them. They're they're bothered by it but it doesn't mean they're gonna hate the do dropping back throwing a pass because well you left here in the uniforms look different. They don't look the same as they used to. Or we don't wear the powder blues enough whatever it is right. So hey if you don't like him you don't like him but at some point time you've got to say okay. You can be mad at the owner but the uniform has the rockets uniform has no bearing on my hatred or love for the houston oilers franchise when it was here. That makes sense. And i don't think you know getting mad or saying it's a bad uniform because of the oilers is that it. It's silly you just don't like the rockets. Then i mean it's a one year special edition jersey. They're going to wear this year is it's a limited amount. Guess what it's going to change next year. Yeah that okay so deal with it. I'm a big fan of changing things. Up and i love college. Football where a teams have eight million uniforms like i. I love traditional stuff. But i love the variety that we get. This is a variety. Go look at some of the other city edition uniforms and tell me that this one is the worst one out there. Go look at the mavericks won. It's golden white win of the went the hell they've ever had golden white right the color scheme so well. Some of these are herald right. You say well. That's not the uniform. I grew up looking at okay. Cool but i am for instance. I don't ever want michigan's helmet to change yet. I wouldn't mind texas. Do i get rid of their own white. Look but i don't mind. I don't mind if they do the mirrored with that look once in a while right on you know how like oreos eight million of them but all of a sudden you show up and it's texas and they put a different one day. They were the all whites with a mirrored white. Yeah that's you know what little money a little change pitch every week just once in a while. I don't like is going. I mean they've i think they've scaled back on a little bit but over the years especially when they got good with johnny and everything. Am all we were there. I i'd love traditional with the with the maroon. Helmand the whiteface man. They got away for right. And you wanna every now and again like we all do for a change because somebody may like it fine but the base of my uniform. Sc penn state michigan texas. I don't ever want that to change now. You know why they do it. At oregon health they got eight billion uniforms. And it's nike's in their backyard and they all the things. They do an appeals to recruit of course because an eighteen year old had zero idea. Orchids uniforms look like when i was playing or their thought process a lot of times. And i understand this man that that that penn state uniform. Why are they were in their practice. Pants out to the field or michigan is it gonna but then they start to find okay. That's that's how they do it. I remember when we started wearing mesh jerseys. That were untucked. Duda was blasphemous. Right john robinson used to pull you off the field for a play to jersey on what dude i told you before. And we'll get to right. We come back from break and we are going to stick it out next john. Listen to when we were on the practice field. I've told you this and it's li- ask anyone when you would spat your cleats white too. You know the outside of your clear for tape job you wanna get hurt. Seat spiderman physical they. When we were stretching the trainers and the equipment men would walk around the stretching lines because you had fifth twenty five. Thirty guys would and spray. Paint your tape black on the practice field. Forget so we do. We never wore white clayton. Our life at sc wild and on a practice. You were not allowed in a game. If marcus allen jersey come untucked come on out and tuck it in then you go back you right next play. Do we had at some point. I got there the underneath button under the groin and the taint area where the jersey golden comes out to. You're like a girl onesie right so you button so wouldn't come untucked that you'd think about that in this day comfortable yes so there you have it but times change but now you guys display with jerseys. That wasn't happening. So that tradition but when they came out with the three quarters shirt mesh like old school alumni. That's that's that how we do things here. Yeah get those off the field and put those jerseys back. There's a trip on how people feel about their team and tradition in uniform sports talk seven hundred staking out next. We'll get to you. Wanna talk a little russell. Westbrook icy and can't pittsburgh steelers go undefeated. We'll hit that. This hour's well sports. Seven hundred out next fastball. Mice macos junior of use astros. You're listening to sean salisbury. On sports talk seven nine lance mccullers. How about the performance your home for houston. Astros baseball sean. Now the cells stakeout steakhouse. On the sean salisbury. Show mc will take it on a second. Let's get to leave. You wanna talk about this westbrook Deal what's going on man. Welcome what a wonderful day. Sean I really can't justify this trade. John wall hasn't played in two years. He's coming off the worst injury possible literally. Never anything no hold on. Hold on that. I don't like anything. Won't you justify for me. Why a guy who hasn't played two years who's highly dependent on his world class athleticism who has and quickly bad contract to westbrook is the answer. What didn't i didn't ranch on. The answer wants today. I said i'm more interested in the rockets this season than i was with russell westbrook interested in the train wreck. They're gonna win a championship with russell. Westbrook no. i don't think you're gonna win with john. Wall the recap being okay. I anything i hang on alien mc mc ball to guys hang on a second before. It'd be the i i don't have any problem with you guys bantering back and forth but two things are going to happen here. One is lee. You're going to let him talk and one is mc. Let him finish. We don't i don't we don't need stepping on each other. I love the passionate opinion. And don't need to make personal you guys get after each other all you want but both of you finish your damn conversation or i'm gonna hit the dump button fair enough. Is that fairly okay. You guys give each other than the respect to finish. Don't don't don't be trump and doggone joe biden okay. Let's let each other finish because you both got good points and people want to hear them. So let's hear him so first off let me go this. Why do you think westbrook. Mc when he's done you jump on it how you want my man. Why do you think westbrook is better for this franchise at this stage. John wall well. Because john wall hasn't played in two years. And there's a very good chance that john wall's going to be a below average. Mba player coming back from this horrific injury. Secondly that draft pick we got is not going to be a lottery. Pick the way it's protected. It's going to be a mid round. Pick it up with. There's you know a lot of people will tell you that. John wall has the worst contract and the entire nba. This is not some guy who is healthy whatsoever. This is the biggest gamble and his upside isn't even as good as westbrook. We caved in. Because mr westford refused to go to camp. We just took whatever deal was possible. And i'm not a fan of caving in for john wall. Alright lee hang on a second mc your getting anything close to what you thought you were gonna give for russell westbrook the team's not gonna probably win a title with either player. Both contracts stink. An asset is an asset that you can add to it russell. Westbrook's values never going to get any better. Maybe john wall's rebounds it's a non win situation period. You should be more mad about going back and looking at. They traded chris. Paul for for russell westbrook ben trading russell westbrook from john wall. Even if he's heard like they're taking a gamble but russell westbrook was not right for this team. We watched it. We watched how it ended in by the way he always gets hurt too. So i think getting mad and say this is horrible. It just doesn't let me ask you this lee. Who's a better player right now regardless of the team if i throw them in a gym and you were picking them and you were running a team. Who's a better player. And as i sit on. Assuming they're both healthy sean. It's russell westbrook without a doubt. They're no. I'm the under the russell westbrook fan and i'm the one who called into the rockets targeting to get much for russell westbrook and somewhere. I said something about sort of trade. Like i would never trae russell. Westbrook i think for our hor- dumped dumped westbrook's contract. I would have rather dumped his contract for straps. Just get off the contract. Then take john wall who you guys will see is the worst contract in the nba. All right lee thanks. There's a reason you're not a general manager honestly went about any. I know i'm not but i'm also sitting here and you're not so i'm not an apologist. I'm using my brain. Look ashley thanks for the call. It what what benefit you get for trading player for scraps i actually. Here's the way i look at it. I don't think either team would have been better. Standard standing pat. That's exactly what it now. Listen to lateral. Move and i think russell westbrook's a better player to do but i also know that to say we'll john wall's hasn't played two years. Well maybe john wall's healthy now comes back because russ gets banged up and russ's a baller. I'm with you. But john's better shooter even had a great shooter russell. Westbrook's a better all around player although not a great shooter either not at all so both contracts ship i. I don't think either team got ten games better. Let's just put it that way. I think it's a lateral move and it's a two three game. Four games shift either way. Health will have something to do with it. The players around you'll have some do with it. Is it a risk lee. And mc i believe so absolute risk terrible. Yes it very well could be. But i don't think it's like gosh that the rockets just became the of the west. And i don't think it's washington. Oh my gosh russell westbrook westbrook's going to be the mvp in the nba in watch. I don't believe either one or happening. But i do believe it adds excitement and change and lee mc and andrew. I think we needed change here. As a franchise i do. I didn't need to watch russell. Westbrook lung chunk it on the surface for me staring at it today. With all the risk involved. I don't believe the rockets or an nba champion. And i don't believe washington's going to the eastern conference final. let's just put it there now. I put it this way. The rockets i think with all this are closer to a western conference final then washington is but i don't think that. Oh my gosh. John walls the difference if we're an nba champion and i don't think washington's thinking russell westbrook's making an nba champion lateral. Move better player in washington. Probably right now the way. It is a better fit here if wall. Selfie simple i mean again at the end of the day be more mad about the trade that brought russell westbrook here. Don't be mad about this one. They're they're operating from a tough standpoint the move that player and they got one asset back in return even if it has protections it's an asset that you can use teams only like to hear this one thing. Hey we were first round. Pick you trade you. That's all they care about. It can be used for something else. They don't they're not in the world where they want to stink. So they're taking a gamble. It's a it's a massive gamble based on the health of the player and roll it out. Do you can't sit here. Don't tell me that this team's any worse today than they were yesterday that if if everything is an f. because it's life if the player is close to what he used to be which is an all star player john wall. The rockets are just as good. If not a little bit better better that will stick it out. We got a bruce will- out at seven thirty. Let's get to the callers. I wanna make sure you guys. Get your time bruce. Welcome in cyprus. John good show that i just clicked on Your boy there was little. Heated comet apologised. I've never heard such that word but anyway I like the trade. I two years younger You saw the books he's they. They gave us forty to one off from fifty to one. So obviously you know the guys that you know Gamble think it's a good great but he's two years younger. Yes if it's a flip of a coin you can say that but let me ask you this. If it doesn't work i could see you know. For whatever reason they both need the ball I think the rockets have gotten younger with all their Accusations but if it doesn't work could could i i would take Philadephia simmons if he's going to trade him to philadelphia. He would work. I mean. I think they're setting themselves up for if it doesn't work out with harden's yes they're going to be in rebuild and that's why they need these draft picks maybe their lottery. Maybe not but you know. They're building the team as they can go both ways so i'll hang up and listen good. Thanks bruce appreciated here. Here's listen and i say this one we're drafting. Nfl players. I say this with trades in the nba. And i know it can franchise back. It's not listen. The rockets are not an nba championship. Team allies. one. Eight here hardness. They haven't won one. They've been close is to win one if you get to the playoffs and you're in there with sixteen and eighteen and twenty. You know what okay so you finish in eighth place instead of tent plate. Okay fine but that's i'm not. Everybody gets a ribbon right trove. I'm just not but you've got to take some chances. Because the definition of insanity is simply doing the same thing over and over again looking for a different result. They weren't going to win an nba championship with russ james. No boogie cousins as they did. They just weren't can't talk about moving and rebuilding. Well they come in general manager new coach and say we got some pieces superstar. We have two of them. Well now. we're just gonna flip flops stars and hope john wall. It's a risk. It is okay but not everybody has. The luxury of anthony davis. Lebron james james is a risk but if it doesn't work in a year or two guess what you do you retool you start over. It's okay ship out. James in those things they could take john wall the teams there are like that a lot. Golden state loses k. D. gold state loses clayton. Klay thompson. the you know what what are you gonna do man. You're going to deal. With and john wall could get hurt. John wall could play sixty games. This year boogie cousins could be an all star. Boogie cousins could play thirty games. There's risk i don't think any of us believe. They overtook the lakers clippers at this stage of the game but there are at least the excitement of they're in they're in the talk if yes everything goes right and again everything is an if right and you could be a great off. Say they get to the play offs and eliminated in the first or second round. Guess what that is. Same thing they'd doing man so it goes back to the lateral move. Do i think rest in. If i had to choose one what i take over john wall. Yes but healthy. I personally for this team thing walls. The better bet. That's my next thing is not the better the better. But you're right you're picking the players even if you can't if we're going down to the dog on the jim in miami taken russ but i'll tell you what john wall's pretty explore you say that guys that cats pretty good but it's all about fit and how it works and none of us know because we got a new coach here got agenda. We don't know how james james gonna just. There's so many training camp starts. Let's see how the flow goes. You're never locked in forever. Somebody will watch james harden next. If it doesn't work they will they will. Because he's a star score and he looks good for tickets and you bring him in people's ask they're going to sit in the seat. I got news for you. Though there's gonna be more people showed up if the cloven wasn't here and this they'll be more people showing up to see what boogie and john wall the excitement than they would have had. This not happen for the reasons of sometimes. When it's changed we want to see what it looks like now that talking the beginning now they've got to go win and do all that but listen you get to the playoffs and lose with honour you get to the playoffs and lose with the other. Okay but what. If which is the john wall demarcus cousins talk. What if we knew we assumed one of them was going stars and james runs the show and was the man that was more than likely to go. We'll see what happens. Sports talk seven hundred. We will stay out next and continue to take your call. Seven one three two one two five seven ninety classic chevy sugarland classic chevy highway six looking forward to drop in on sunday the sunday afternoon doing to the charity and making sure that we get these toys to kids and this. What jeff and tiffany sebastian. Do when you go to automobile dealership you want to be treated with respect and not smothered but not left alone when you walk in the door in a cova time. 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Ah listen to the home of the rockets on your smart speaker. Just ask a google play sports. Talk seven hundred ten on iheartradio happening. And he's got a lot to say about. Sean salisbury continues on seven nine hundred. Sean what woody you hearing out there. Now salisbury steak out. Brief steakhouse on the sean salisbury. Show staking it out now and Mc what you got man. We'll just go back to the rockets with this addition now of john wall. Where do they finished in the west. let's see wall cousins. Tell me how many games are plant. Seventy two games between the two of them. I'm going to say okay. i'll just give you that. They both play. They play one hundred games. Fifty sixty and forty fifty fifty. Whatever district okay. Seventy two games. I think that's probably your lowest. Okay hoping the more the more logic the more you would think and hope is between fifty five points from getting on at least one hundred twenty games right right. it'd be sixty pedia missing twelve games. Yeah whether it's a load thing for sore hamstring right and Hundred games between the two on the low end were they fit the west. They're not going to be there. The record out. Listen the clippers. You know they're good but they're a load management team. I'm assuming we're going to get you know they're gonna come back a little hungry or new coach whole thing anymore. Accountability shouted declaration. They did so lakers clippers nuggets. And i'm gonna say that that fourth spot is mavericks are portland. Battling i say five or six battling for the five or six bucks. I see call me. I think rockets are three or four with the mavs. I think the nuggets fall behind them and then portland do. Yeah see. i have the nuggets ahead of them. And i think the battle the mavs that four spot at the maps get it. I think they're more in a battle with portland for five or six than i do with the nuggets or maps for the three or four. It's going to be a dog right. The standings really does every single may not matter. You know whether you're who you draw early will matter. I mean eventually you're gonna have to play the good ones anyway but you hope you get them later. So they're a little worn out plan. But you never know you know. Like i said they're they're gonna hover and a lot of this but you know you're lebron say. We played his sound earlier. We got younger and it's all going to depend on. If we repeat health it always comes down to that and you know and your stars doing their thing as as they do and in some cases the older get. They got younger daily but some bit strike. You know that guy's six through eight in a rotation will silas here. How deep does he believes. Rotation is adding christian would and the rest of it. And you remember airport and still on this roster j. tucker still air gordon comes back in his all star sixth man of the year. It was not aired gordon of music. Well the one game and the in utah where he goes and drops fifty but the thing is he averaged eighteen points a game and shoots thirty eight percent from three the things that concern me. Are we got a lot of what ifs didn't i for them to win. I that always concerns. It's like i always say when you draft a quarterback you sign a franchise quarterback if there's a bunch of what if's by his name before you draft him like right now if you saw carson wentz now and we're about to pay him. Let's say he was waiting. Pay right. you'd say well. What if he goes back. Twenty was the mvp candidate. Few years ago right so i. I couldn't pay because the what ifs outweigh the the good. What if the bad one is like well. What if he's plays like this for three more years now. the what. If like for instance dak prescott the dak prescott. What if there's no what. It might not good without him. He was playing a historic numbers. Put a good team around a different matter of fact desks dak prescott even though the cowboys were struggling right now. If that press with the dallas cowboys they win the division by two games. I'm just telling you good as daniel jones has been up and down. You know what i'm saying. Because they would eventually figured out their offensive weapons and got a few wins their defense played it tad bit. Better make sense he. Here's that big a difference when it comes to basketball. That's my only concern. Mc about were they finish is what if see i think even if the guys are banged up the taking be an eight see. I think they're good enough with starts to do it. The question is are you five or eight in the lucas mavericks and dame's portland trailblazers in denver. Joke i mean all these guys gotta star. The question is how. How important is it for the nuggets to win. Home-court advantage for the lakers. While it's fine. And i don't think it's that important i don't so they're going to rest. Lebron those nights that they're allowed and he wants to. James harden is gonna wanna play every night sway. Works howell stephen. Silas handle so for me mc. I'm saying if. I wanted to be firm. I'd go lakers. Clippers or lakers nuggets clippers mavericks rockets trail blazers and then it comes down to seven and eight. Do i like utah. Is john going to get him to another level is what's new orleans going to be like. Who am i leaving out of that group. Who am i am i missing. Something phoenix on cenex. Actually think the phoenix suns. We're gonna be in that eight that they they're different near upgraded so there's about four or five teams battling for seven eight my mind in the west teams. I i don't think san antonio's popovich the west could have twelve year twelve thirteen. That are to to to good. Teams are going to get left out what i could make the playoffs year recently. Forty eight win team and if they were put it this way. I believe that. If the pelicans and the sons were in the eastern conference their playoff teams. Yeah i mean. I i would put them in. But we'll see but the first six or seven in the west. It's going to be like three games separating four teams. You know what. I'm saying down the stretch to get in the last four and you're gonna get left out and left on the doorstep possibly. Don't we have the play in stuff during the middle of the season this year. How that's gonna work a little tournament within a tournament right and what's at march april somewhere in there. The whole thing you know. I haven't figured that out yet. Get my point. So but if they're just the normal seeding how we do it pretty solid. I think on the first five what you got for me andrew. All right so we all love peyton. Manning's new show peyton places. And he had marshawn lynch on marshawn lynch revealed that before every single game he would take a shot of hennessy. Now shauna was there a player in your time. That you remember having a weird pre-game dirigible well. I can tell you a lot of them. Randall mcdaniel now maybe not hennessy. Ran re mcdaniel wasn't didn't drink randall. Mcdaniel would and this is a true story now. may i thought. I can't every data every game at halftime. Might i'd walk in the locker room at halftime and my equipment manager would hand me to candy bars because just for that energy right and jim mcmahon liked to eat hot dogs on the sidelines. And he did. He'd have an deliver them to hot dog on site and eat it during a game that in fact. We did it on monday night with either sunday night or monday night. Football matt came up to me. And say sean you hungry. Yeah i'm hungry. Had the big jackson it was cold he went to the usher and says he goes on sign of football or something and if you could have and they brought us hot dogs and we ate hot dogs in our jacket plane and so that's one randall. Mcdaniel would come into the locker room every sunday. Picture the track your tall kitchen bag. There'd be fifty candy bar senate. He'd eat twenty of them. I'm telling you there's enough to go around for the he would. There was a key he'd come in and never was he had. It was like you went to the candy store. And i'm not talking about. This is the minis i'm talking about. Candy bars he would carry those in. And jim mcmahon. Also another thing. Mac would do map would get to the stadium. We'd have team breakfast. Eight o'clock by eight forty five nine. He was at the stadium. He'd eat steak every every single sunday and he'd go to the stadium and he'd start drop kicking field goals in his cutoff sleeved shirt in his uniform pants for three hours while he'd come in. I'm telling ya he'd come in drenched if it was a hot day like he played a game. I said dude. What are you doing and it got to the routine he dropped about every it didn't matter where we go through his drop. Kick routine comeback in have to reach rechange re cleanup. Put it new. Fresh shirt on heat went through a three hour. Drop kick routine would've wore out the most the most fitted dudes and he had up time. Used to be what the equivalent of five hour energy red buller coffee. It's the people who know what i'm talking about. Mac would come in and he'd be sponsored by or something he'd come in like random with dan is gaining maquette up time all over the place and he'd pop a bunch of those time which were legal caffeine like guys come in and drink a pot of coffee while they're sitting around their locker. That was his coffee. And i'm telling you that dude would raise that one. I be chewing on gum said kid. I'm ready to go. Let's go and he'd be. He played four games by the time. We all were just in the middle of one. I'm thinking i don't how you know how you do it. So everybody had their return. I was saying andrew urine here on our seattle my rookie year. We had burger and beer feed before every game. Nine o'clock at night. Take to your room and drink. Those old school football trusted us to come out and play re better. I'm sure i'll leave one. I did see on game day. One time and i would never ever say who it was. I did see one guy do a blow before he played in the locker room in a hotel room and he was a hell of a football player but for whatever reason that day not a continuous at one time one time. But i'm not telling you anything you know because remember you're talking about years ago that that was the equivalent of that would be whatever an and i don't mean it's just like an ad that senator roy like it was like let's go there was a small. I've never done it in my life. And i didn't judge them matter of fact he's a good friend of mine but that day he felt like he needed went out did what he normally does. I just was like how good always played good. But it wasn't a normal routine. It was and i know that for a fact but but i'm not telling anybody anything they don't i'd never give a name out but i can promise you this back in the seventies and sixties and eighties. Those things were far more. I think at least it appeared far more relevant to get guys up and going to as what steroids in the seventies right because nobody was testing for it. So i did see that. But i don't think that was normal routine but mac with his up time in his pre game routine randall mcdaniel and his candy bars and burger and beer feed the night before a game in our head. Coach chuck said. Just be a pro. And if you wanna pro then you weren't there and guys were very good at making sure of you. Had three beers. It helped him sleep. You know everybody has some people like to take ambien before they slept. Say get a full night's sleep. That was a normal routine for some and then people started to realize their sleepwalk on walk around start. Throwing touchdown passes three in the morning and the hotel hallway so crazy things. I could write a fun story without selling pizza but fun stories about what it was like to play and be around those but everybody has a routine some. Were just a little more wacko than others. I'm not sure mack. I'll eat hot dog on the sidelines. Give it to me. I just don't want her head coach. Seek we'll refocused. But i'll be more focus if you could put something in my belly dude. I'm hungry and he did so. Yeah crazy and randall. Mcdaniel was a candy fanatic. The thing about random mcdaniels and when he'd eat candy is it would turn to protein was like eight candy bars while everybody else getting fat on it that dude he grew up. You know what. I'm saying off ridiculous and he dropped. We'd be playing basketball in the off season. You throw a ball into them in the low block at about six four and a half to seventy five. He'd boom put drop step. Somebody and hammer a one handed dunk on him and and we traveled traveling around team. I'm saying this dude. What are you going to do take charge. So there's some phenomenal athletes out there. It's sports stock. Seven ninety good to be your little late for brick. that's okay stories are orthodox sportstalk seven. Ninety astros. hot stove is not just small. talk tyrod year. What's the oldest. The astros us could make a lot of free agents pending arab light bringer. I'm sorry. Neil winter on sports. Talk seven ninety four to another season hall. Your astros now. The drive from the tex- adelphia traffic center. An accident just cleared on the six ten west loop southbound at foreignness budge. You're backed up now all the way to would way. And it's about fifteen minutes to get through those delays. They also cleared that wreck on the north wait inbound airline. You still slow from west road and the katy freeway inbound at washington accident cleared. i'm christina cruz. 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John salisbury continues to break it down one seven hundred ninety bird sports talk seven hundred zero the great stories. Everybody has a great story especially when they are you say man. I said i learned some great things about the raiders. When i sat down with kenny stable years ago drinking single malt scotch in a bowl luxy mississippi at a roast for media guy and i was like man you get the best. Oh my gosh. it was phenomenal. And what a gentleman. But what will he kenny. Stabler should have been able to get in the hall of fame. While he was alive he should have been able to see himself and and stand up there himself. I wish i could because his stories matter of fact and just let kenny in his speech. Talk for about an hour. Giving stories about oakland raider stories phenomenal now. I always think guys like junior ceo took his own life and i would have loved to see him and his daughter did a phenomenal job. I would have would have been like to have him give his hall of fame and be there for that. you know. say it's it's unfortunate but back to the fun stories andrew. Thanks for the question it's People have some crazy. I don't doubt you. Tv took himself a quick swig of what was his. Hennessy took some hand got out there and went and did it. I see me like that one seems crazy down. Yeah it would be what i'm saying if my stomach feel like. It's more of a depressant than it is is is an alcohol more of a depressant than when i present meaning maybe he needed it to mellow amount. Just kind of settle in. Take a quick hit. I can promise you this. He admits it. Because on care what you think and it's okay man. I saw him the other day to walking up and down the street handing out turkeys. Yeah that's that's what that's that's what he's he's a little. He's beats to a different drum guys like that. I'll give all the love in the world to because he does he walking up handing them through to roll down windows standing there. He didn't ask somebody else to do it. He puts them elbow grease into. It said. i've got these turkeys. I'm gonna walk up and down for people who need them. I i have zero problem with. I actually love that. So marshawn lynch well. He's a different cat. You're like dudes different but you know what everybody you talk to. The player said i'd line up with that dude right now because he will wear you out and you know what some some guys at night. I wouldn't trust me drinking a shot of tequila before i went out and played. I wouldn't want any part of that right. But what the difference in him taking a drink of hennessy. Or some guy pop in to percocet sets for their. You know what i'm saying. We you don't and you don't encourage it. No i'm just saying i can't i. I'm not preventing these players from doing what they do before they play. And nor am. I going to disrupt their game. Pregame routine right. That's whatever it is at least marshawn admitted you think he's the only athlete that takes a shot of booze before he goes. No there's no right just whether it's for the nerves or maybe your backs a little sore and you don't wanna take a shot you say i've never done because i wouldn't i i wouldn't trust myself i would think i wanna be clear mind and some guys are more clear. Maybe it became is routine. Did it once felt good about it. Bengo i just can't imagine shot ahead a couple if you do to like i guess for may just depend on your tolerance. Did two of those shots. I would have a bus. And i can't imagine but then you come down from it and maybe this could be like what maybe his come down was six hours later right deals different and his body's tad different than yours. Mcat's maybe and his problem. He probably doesn't get the buzz that i do have to say. Think about a guy who might be a little bit. Someone tell you that i probably sound like i'm a little drunk just by two. I'm not kidding. I and i understand. Some people by one would be a little slurred. Feel actor one right him. I don't know if he did. Maybe he'd liked a little bit of edge whatever that obviously did take the edge off whatever that was before a game where you think about. This is like a buddy. I'm not. I can't sit like we all did in college or not. All of us open and drink twelve beers. And you do get blowed beat down. You know we all know you're sitting around eventually. It wears me out. But i got five. Beer it's maxed out. It's not so the buzz for me. It's not the but it's the stein god. I feel bloated and beat down. But i got buddies. It'll did. I'm telling you my brother can still go out and drink two six packs in an hour and a half and keep on rolling. My brother calls me the other day and he goes he goes. What are you doing. I could tell he's been drinking. I'm sitting in a deer blind and i go. Oh yeah how many you had today. He goes eighteen point. The oh you driving or he goes no i just called christie. His wife got come. Pick me up eighteen and signed me seven shots tequila thirteen of them right. Like it's nothing and just sitting around and he's not driving putting data but that's got to be a nice nap in the afternoon after you've been in a deer blah right so whatever it is but i got buddy on man. How yet if they drink a six pack. You'd think that most human beings would get a little bit but they don't. It's the same thing. I've sure if that's marchand routine to get his day going the two shots like like if i went right now and i don't do it often but if i went and was at home watching a game i told you when the red sox play my routine was take a shot tequila and in the world series and just one beer and just sit there and enjoy. Wash one shot at tequila for whatever reason sound like. I don't know. I'll go months without taking a shot of it but sitting there in one shot at the kids like i did not buzzed. But i'm six five two hundred. Yeah forty five pounds. Whatever it is. I'm six one two hundred that don't drink like exactly like examine the that one would do. Do some work on it. See how it affects people different and beer. I wouldn't a buzz after three or four. But i tell you what my my gut would be like. Oh man that's bloated. I can't i don't want to do it. Andrew your cut your college guy. I am right so right now if you're sitting at home and you're having a nobody who's driving it was safe and you're doing the right and you got it. Expects right get specs. How many beers could you or do you gotta buddy. How many beers could he sit. Your your your your drinking buddy. How many beers could he set or you sitting there watching a play on tv but not leaving. Just hang in there. How many me. i'm five. Eleven one hundred and fifty pounds. Lord have mercy. I probably won't last me two and a half. Three one fifty. Yeah stake up. Keep boy better. Drink more beer beer skinny but not. That's okay so do you have a buddy that can go drink at the two six packs. And not even be fair buddy. That's probably six foot in these two hundred something pound. So yeah he can he can. I've seen him binge quite after. Yeah and i got those buddies to my old school buddy still to this day. They can be drinking. Whether it's the little scotch or their booze or coal beer and they'll have the dip in their mouth and swallow bolt. That's my brother that will have. He'll have tarmac for copenhagen brooklyn his mouth while he's drinking beer and swallows. The juice of the copenhagen and brother does that exact thing the copa the other day. When i talked to him he i've got a question for everybody wanted his mouth. Who's who's the dipper. That will swallow. And if your wife doesn't want you to chew and you do when when you're driving to work and that he got the toothbrush the car or women who've dipped in the past. Gimme gimme a great dip story. Are you one that can swallow your juma back issues and big deal about eight o'clock in the morning grab a burrito and a copenhagen sportstalk seven diety rolls on our number three houston iheartradio station. Your home for your home teams. This is sports. Talk seven ninety from the classics jimmy sugarland studios find new. Wrong shots shells salisbury. This is the sean salisbury. Show ford stocks of ninety. So what happened on this day in sports. Mc clock on a funny what's the data the third and what's wrong looking at the bomb down. There is that for us. Hey got a story. Oh dip store. Okay we're going to get to him a second day. In nineteen fifty-six wilt chamberlain made his collegiate debut for kansas. He's fifty two points and grabbed thirty one rebounds and also. I'm looking at the uniform picture of them. From before that season they had belts on there on the front belts side of his pants where the pants silk like look shiny shiny. They're not and he short ones and that's they look even more nut hugger on seven one guy because the lengthy you know how tall sound right about his height is seven one about to forty at the time or whatever. He was at that time coming of high school. But we'll still the big dipper belts on the front. Yeah oh yeah all right. We're talking about dip chewing tobacco and we've all probably done it. Most of us. I could not. I know probably give you the buzz in college or whenever you do it or guys like to do it on the golf course. But if i swallow a little leaf of it or it's banned skull it'd matter if it's red man's skull copenhagen any of it now i do do this the dip right now dip. Oh it's it gets to your bloodstream. Quick it's not you know. There's no no htc cbd and it works instead of rubbing cream on it. I do it. And it's like when goss. Okay feeling pretty good and i turned michael berry onto it and i said because his back was bothering michael he. So what does that. I said it. Cbd goes let me have one of those they taste good too because they have different flavors he takes comes back the next day. I said how to work amazing. I bought the whole store out. What he's a. Yeah he's michael. That's probably turn into a sponsor right. Michael was in. We got our man. Doug pike here so we're talking about. Dip stories now dips fine but doug if i swipe did this. Se once i took my. I hit a copenhagen. I swallowed a little bit of juice. And i was blowing five minutes later. The to the point got so much dry heaving. So gimme your. Everybody knows. Doug pike here. He's mr indoor. Outdoor radio scored all over the map. My golfing buddy. Doug so you gotta dip story all over the map it like my drive late Yeah this goes all the way back of five hundred years ago. When i was playing college baseball over in mobile at south alabama and we had an assistant coach who he did a lot of recruiting the pre recruit to make sure that the guys they brought into town over there and took around had a nice time and this now that he'd take them out to dinner and this guy always had a big chunk red man chewing tobacco not the little dip pouches but a cheek. Full like a chipmunk and every time he would take anybody to dinner we all experienced. It would sit down at the table still chew and never swallowed not once. Did anybody ever see this man. Swallow anything and he would take his dip out of his mouth. Wrap it up in a napkin. Set it on the side of the table next to his knife and fork eat a course of the meal and then immediately put that dip back in there and that went all the way through the whole meal so while it was in there you say never spit it out. No this guy practice at nothing. He'd go through three or four bags of red banner. Day never spit. He must have had a stomach. Dislike a cast iron stomach beyond high on my way. Now doug if you ever chewed. I a little bit back in college. I kinda went over there and I fallen into the cigarette thing like a lot of people had back. Then i've long since quit quit about twenty years ago but when we got over there they wouldn't allow any smoking on the field and a couple of other guys One guy smoked a cigar every night before he went to bed and there was a lot of tobacco. Use back then but we couldn't do it on the field. So yeah we. We turned to regular standard-issue chew tobacco easier to hide right than the smoke that smoke at a grip back then it doug before we let you go you got to be better first of all your son's got some golf game. And then you sure. As hell does and jack del rio and i had so much fun. Plow you guys. It was a grim day. Quit diminishing yourself brother. I'd say you're pumping out from the left side of the plate a country mile with that. Nice little drawl yourself. You never get the milk handicaps with me. Ever i know about your brother appreciate you buddy. Thanks got story. Oh my gosh. The dip stories are i got some. I mean dip stories galore. I know guys are out there sitting me. I can't call in because momma might here. Because i'm in my truck right now and i don't want to know that i got this sneaky of eight cans of copenhagen locked up underneath and you can't. I always know the guys that are dippers like when you go to a convenience store i'll go to do to walk in there and say could you can. I have the ro- tens right and it's like okay. That's a veteran dipa right there. Let's get to eric and rosenberg eric. What's happening man. faith So i have one of those dip stories I've had the Ability or i was able to play College football so we were in We were actually planning nebraska so we were in lincoln in the hotel during our tests. I think you were talking about you. Know we take tests before game. So we're doing our test. And i had been dipping little pouches Couple of teammates had gone over. The pouches was kinda knew when i was in college. And you'll get in their teeth or anything and so. I had been kind of getting used to having that my mouth and getting a little buzz and stuff during meetings and stuff so anyway. We're doing this test. And my buddy no longer pouches. He had copenhangen long cut and I was like okay. Yeah let me go ahead and try it so put it in my mouth. you know. everything's good. I stand up and i pretty much swallow. What was in my mouth was not good so You know those keys to the hotel rooms as little card. Oh yeah well. I i had my next to me so i grab it and i head back to the room because i'm about to blow chunks. Well i grabbed my buddy's car instead of mine so i have to go back to his room. Get my card. As soon as i get my car and walk out of his room. I just puke from his room all the way to my room in the hallway and it just reeks and so i go into my room. Close the door finished owing up in there and then like ten minutes later i walk out and we have already had lunch or you know the the the the the dinner lunch when the to the town right yeah. It's the hotel and it was spaghetti. It was salad name. It was just all over the whole little lace nascar leaning it up. And i just like walk by and i just kinda smile. She didn't know who was. He better handed her scholarship. Check tip brother give her a scholarship a real quick before. Let you go great story nasty but great story. I i had buddies. That would play tackle during practice would chew during. They never did take it out of their mouth. They would do. Oh he. My quarterback old from putnam city west medical city. My guy he'd played called signals in and out of the huddle dropping back. Tony the dip was in his mouth the whole practice. Didn't it never left guys. Got another buddy of mine that chewed read man. While while we practice going through all the drills never never never took it out so that's a great story. And you know one thing and eric you learned that night into that you know when you drank too much and you're in your own place in the room spending and you try to fight it up by one foot on the floor and you win. Do i go to the bathroom window. I don't the chew chew tobacco vomit part. It gets on you quick and his relentless it did you there. There's there's no cushion when it hits you in the beads of sweat start rolling on your forehead you got you've got no shot and you want apologize but you can't hold it you just can't true very true unbelievable great story my brother thank you because man that the chew tobacco dip stories man everybody has one been either like doug pike was saying doug calling in as well that cast iron stomach for buddies who. I have like going to spit that to swallow it. I don't need. I don't need you know a cup to spit in you. Know get the cup. Put a paper town the bottom of it so it doesn't slide around. I got buddies of mine. And don't don't give a rat's ass about it. I was really hungry earlier. It's kind of blew that. Well there you go you know what we there's curb your enthusiasm curbing. Your hunger ranks area. Go so if you gotta dip story let us know seven one three two one. Two five seven ninety russell. Westbrook traded for john wall and a first round pick. Who won that one. That pulled questions up but up next and we will get to talking about these texans. But you know we always. It becomes a national and local talk when the team somewhere gets december undefeated and we start talking historic the miami dolphins players are. They started old school. Seventy two. are they starting to one. They gonna pop the bottle. Saint pittsburgh got a loss there watching. So let's go through the schedule. Will the pittsburgh steelers after you would you saw yesterday and looking at them will go undefeated. Let's look at the schedule enroll through it and eleven and it's a real chance this is when i start talking about december and the miami dolphins seventy two team. I'd guarantee is watching closely sports. Talk seven ninety. Sean salisbury show. Will they get the sixteen. And we'll discuss next the hottest taste in houston's horse monks leave either the team. Sean salisbury show continues on sportstalk seven nine hundred sportstalk seven ninety great diff- stories going on and we'll also talk about the steelers sixteen and it's real effect because well the colts are involved in the schedule. They get they gotta play washington buffalo. The colts through this. The browns ended up the season. They also got to play one more in there. Which is cincinnati cincinnati so the knicks. The truth is buffalo Their next game but Two games for now buffalo will be a tough one now. They're all tough. It's tough to win. Washington's defensive front may gave it to her. You saw baltimore down about nine or ten starters yesterday eventually. Got to the third string quarterback and pittsburgh if you were had pittsburgh in the points like i. Did you got back door covered by third string quarterback yesterday nine hundred ninety seven and and the under if you parlayed it. Think about this parlay north carolina. Ut over muck thirty seven and a half the pittsburgh steelers under at forty one and a half points. Pittsburgh steelers ten and a half point favorites. Take the steelers Steelers up nineteen to seven going to get the under started out. Twelve seventy early in the first quarter will can they get on a roll. Rg three gets handle hammy they. Pittsburgh turns it over in the red zone a couple of times. Those were picking the end zone. You know you're getting the under right. Nineteen seven ball games over five minutes left. Got a third string quarterback. Boom they give up touchdown nineteen fourteen so that screwed it before that. Ut wins the game wins the maui classic in that were they win it by asheville north carolina classic in north carolina where snowing they beat north carolina in north carolina. In asheville. and guess what guess final score was they over under the buck. Thirty six and late in the game in are in the second half. I believe it was second. Guess what happened guy. Misses a dunk dunkel. Get you one. Thirty seven and a half. See over darn dude. How how. that's how that's one one house. Go kill somebody right. You're wrong you kidding me now. This not the forty eight guys are not playing in the game. And you're going to give up that that another touchdown late to a third string quarterback not saying the guy's not good it was. I think trace mcsorley is the quarterback for three hundred. And then you play and you play you plan. It's one hundred thirty six points. I needed one basket and guy misses dunk in the game. Don't get me started on it. Not that big a deal but three team parlays if you've got a decent man that's a nice a chuckle chain. Yeah it's a good couple. Three or four or five meals to eat. I could live with it was monopoly money. You know you just talking about it. But that what's that's just like anymore as you go. Bet some diet coke. Yeah now it's you can talk about in the open and matter of fact and you should be able to do it talking about legal game. Could you go across the street to the kiosk when you get that powerball ticket and grabbed me punch in. I want this parlay. Could you punch that texans. Plus the three. Yes this week. That's exactly right. Let's get to ryan ryan. You gotta dip story my man out there and spring doing buddy. Hey actually Quick real quick story before. I used to be Interning over there gal. Before i was whenever you know i know you are brother. Hey so What i was probably sixteen or so There's my dad had a little hats from a mile and a half from my mom's house. I was hanging out over. There was this is back when Probably two thousand two area. I don't know if michael connor members that time about the same age and stuff called grizzly. I still got it. He's still got it. I know is. Yep so it's probably like that so good brands of Stuff hand kansas grizzly in my life. They're not good. No not the best. Not the best but So we decided to give that a child. Mom calling me. Point decided to ride my bike that fence so probably corner of a mile there. They'll stay over on the side of the by pedal instill just sweat puking all over the street also or somebody's front yard. I couldn't Last time i ever do that ever in my life. Yeah but that's Riding a bike sweat. Get that done to these. It'll teach a lesson. I promise you that it will teach you a valuable valuable lesson ryan. Great stuff brothers. Good to hear your voice man. I'm glad things appreciate you. Thanks that grizzly. It's still there. You go get that in stores. I'm sure a grizzly. I've seen it all the time. Say it all the time. Cbd right now. i'll stick away from the. I'll just say let's from the tobacco is making me sick to my stomach. All the thoughts of it you want a theresa burrito no thank you no thank you all right. Let's get schedule in front of the steelers. Yes all right and we'll take your calls seven one three two five seven nine hundred and we say oh. It's too early. Well it's what we do. It's and it's actually not too early when you look at the schedule. Pittsburgh's clearly on both sides of the ball. Now here's a caveat to that or some that's not good they another blown out in the yesterday yes Who the hell bullet there yesterday. This is i easily j. Watt who the helmuth. Bud dupree driving and the combination of sacks between them there at the top of the league in combo right well but pres out remember. Bush blew out his knee to think. It was his devon. So you're dealing with now. This is a disruptive player on defense always. Has those guys right. So yeah take that into account but as we go through this it is honestly in talk has gotta be real. There's five games to go. Even the thing about like unlike the tampa bay pittsburgh wins when they're not playing well right. They've had some ugly. They had a tight. They were beaten the hell out of the titans weren't they ended up winning by three there. They beat the ravens by four the first time they squeaked out against the texans earlier in the season. Same against the broncos the heaven beaten the hell out of people like other than the bengals. They'd beat thirty six ten. They beat the browns thirty eight seven. They put up thirty eight on the eagles but they gave up twenty nine in that game. Everything's been pretty close overall except in the jags as well. Twenty seven three in that one. So you're right. it's not like like with. The patriots went undefeated that season. They just beat the hell right and so when people say well. We already had an undefeated season. Well they didn't close it out. Yeah so. I understand how people are going to say. Well even if you get to sixteen you gotta at this point it'd be. There's still something going sixteen. Nfl regular two teams. That have done it. What's harder sixteen in our own sixteen sixteen now because only you. We've seen owen sixteen. How many statistics analytics just say we've seen on sixteen more than we have sixteen in. Oh i don't know what the what's the the Ratio how many teams have gone six miami dolphins new england patriots gonna feed in the regular season. Yeah and i'd take the dolphins. Were they know. The dolphins don't want the dolphins fourteen and yes fourteen. The dolphins were during the season was fourteen and then they ended up going seventeen and all. The patriots ended up going seventeen but lost their eighteenth game which was in the super bowl to the giants in two thousand and eight after their undefeated. Run in two thousand seven and remember that your i believe the giants started to and then we're seven is one. I believe on the road that year went on. Oh and sixteen has only happened twice. So they're equal browns lions. So when i say. Only seventeen. Brown's twenty two thousand and eight lines the or the nine hundred eighty. Two baltimore colts went. Oh eight one bucks short and fourteen cowboys in one thousand nine hundred zero eleven. One we can go. Let's see so we got a lot of ood winless teams in football history going back to the twenty fourteen or more games. The dolphins were seventeen. No fourteen in the regular and won the super bowl. The patriots were sixteen during the regular season with the change of schedule and ended up. Eighteen in one lost their nineteenth game. Well the steelers we've had. We've had a lot of teams entered december undefeated. The chicago bears miami dolphins season. We and then they get beat so but it is. You know we always ask the question and then where would we rank. Is this pittsburgh. Steelers team. Better than the new england patriots. I will say no no. That's that patriots team is like you go through the list of some of the greatest teams. That didn't win a championship in any sport. That one is right up there. Maybe without because rainy boss just was stupid with tom. Brady and they just they. I remember watch this just. It's like he just stepped back for the ball down. The field and moss is going on twenty three touchdowns record. Yeah and then you look at us with the way times have changed. Who's a better football team. Could the steelers be as successful as miami was in their time and could the miami dolphins in one thousand nine hundred seventy two. How would they fare plan the saints. The kansas city chiefs different. Because i don't think those teams had fair. Well would they in the office of legal. Look at look at the look at both. Miami dolphins super bowls and look at the number of attempts in the super bowl by the quarterback. Look at the number of passing attempts. What season they go. And seventy two bob greasy dolphins. Okay pulling it up scheme second and then the sea that was one super bowl and then their next one after that. Just the dolphins superbowls. That was the undefeated and look at the number of temps passing attempts in their two super bowl super bowl washington redskins for the redskins game. Yeah he had eleven pass attempts right the loss to the cowboys their first one and seventy one. He had twenty three the win over the vikings in eighteen. Seventy three he had seven. I'm talking about their two wins. He threw eighteen twenty three super bowls. He had forty one attempts. They guys get that and three quarters of a super bowl now and look at the two wins. Eighteen attempts eight of eleven for eighty eight yards a touchdown. Pick six of seven for seventy three touchdowns no picks and one them both with thad degrade defense redskins game ended up fourteen to seven and the only way the redskins scored was on the garo. Your premium tried to throw off a bad snap. The kicker and the ball landed in mike bass his hands. And i believe he took it to the house they scored and that one and then there are other win was who they beat in the other one. Yeah the minnesota. Vikings fran tarkenton through twenty eight. It and that was a lot. Yeah okay so you take a look at eighteen attempts. Well look at the how many completions mahomes had last year suitable. I mean he's going to have three away manning. The one year had what thirty of fifty or something to get seattle when they lost in two wednesday through eighteen times so the question is maybe old school that that's a fun conversation. We'll come back and discuss that as well. Along with this undefeated stuff if you are all last year was twenty six hundred forty eight more completions than bob gracie had attempts into super bowl. Wins now relative. They didn't throw as much but zik all thousand pocket. This boy you've put jim kicking larry's so i called him zik so you get the same got and then mercury more jim. Kick larry's right paul warfield. They had more fields. A hall of famer bob greasy hall of famer. But you take it's relative to the flight but the question is who would fit into who's air better you old school guys and gals give me. An team would not seven one three two one two five seven ninety. Would who fares better. Kansas city chiefs headed to seventy two or the seventy. Two dolphins headed to two thousand twenty. I'm curious just if it's your age. Because i already know i've seen both i can tell you how i feel. We'll discuss eighteen attempts to super bowl. 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It is yeah it is time for him to get a new dance. No you're just sticking with all all the way through his career and you're good at something you stick with bala don dog even go even oldest call cabbage patch on your ass. I don't know what that is. yes you do. I have no idea. I pick once in a game and you know frank manifield cash on you. Yeah threw a pick. We're playing and in a playoff game. We'd with the game was over. In cleveland municipal stadium with a field painted green with free ball ass freezing cold. Biscuit will get just sec ball. I'm talking about freezing i. I'm backing up when the playoffs were given. That's the old school dogpound right. Yeah hanford dixon. Frank midfield checking fans are. they're kicking. it's my second year league. I mean they're kicking our behind right and they got. I mean we got good players. And we're we're we're good. But i'm telling you there. They were just relentless that was when the browns were the browns. And they're trying to get back to that and it's miserable and it's freezing and greg. Brian offensive coordinator and quarterback coach at the time quarterback coach. And we're standing on the sidelines. As dan outside he was in the booth because he was helping the coordinator and one of my one of the great people of all time and brian still been coaching quarterbacks for a year so early in my career. I'm sitting here. I'm freezing did but you're on the sidelines and jack trudeau's plan and where he gets do it's at the end of the game. And all of a sudden we down about five minutes to go anna looking at greg brian. Man would it be bitch to have to go in and play in this day. Salisbury ham. i'm talking about poor. Jack hammered with their pending. There is back because they knew he had to throw. Yeah and they were relentless clay matthews. And so i'm telling you within two place trudeau takes. I'm talking about gets hit. Kick walked off the field. I'm standing there brighter. Goes well he goes. Go let it rip to pull it off. Get loose about eight throws that that. Definitely your legs aren't even lose your. You're in your early twenty something. I got this go up there. We made a few throws at albert bentley on a guy out of the backfield hit him. So we're starting to move the ball a little bit. But i'm young still learning the i mean. This is my first year with them. Rights and saw. I dropped fast when we come up. To the line of scrimmage. And i see okay i. I changed the play. Let's just put it. It's allowed the dog pounds. Going seventy seven thousand people and and we were good eric dickerson. We would load it at this point time. you know. we're trying to get out. But i'm we're still gonna drop back and throw and work and i billy brooks great wide receiver from boston you at troop royal so. We got a corner. Route called the flatness man. I'm still trying to get loose. I'd couldn't throw deep young. But i wanna make sure i get a couple of crap. We're starting to get a little short rhythm completion just to get it down score respectful arm my check the play. So billy i throw a curl route and billy runs the corner my bad. I mean we didn't hear. I gotta make sure that i pump frank field sitting around prank midfield hanford. Dixon were the two best corner combo along with lester hayes and my canes in a league i hit many many when they call a mini dude. He's about five eight about one hundred and seventy hundred and one of the best like a monster player loved him but do him a curl round hit him in the chest he starts going down to sidelines. Do not start working at six five two thirty. Yeah i'm thinking. I'm thinking to myself first of all. I'm still trying to get my legs into this thing. So i start creep on the sideline and in my mind. I'm literally saying somebody tackle his ass. I don't wanna be. I wanna be in position to where it's like. Okay just run me so we can get off the field twice his size. So all of a sudden i get down there at the about the two yard line and i'm read upset. Okay i'm gonna unload on. I'm pissed number one cold freeze and the game's over. We're i ask you and they're going crazy a great fans or go there. they're awesome. They're going nuts dude. I'm on my. He'll stand up thinking come on. Man died almost sounds like many step out. He won't touch. He put his helmet my chest because he had better leverage. 'cause small dude. I'm a foot taller is many puts and he's going full speed. He puts his helmet my chest and knocked me into the end zone. Scores most of your. It all of a sudden. I looked up and that's when cabbage patch was in dude. I look up in mini's cabbage patch over me. Now they do a flag on it now really on me but route his teammates but it was so close. It was like a tea bag. Cabbage patch laid on the crowd. And i'm like. I'm not only throw picking a playoff game. Don creaky and bob trumpy or calling a game. So i'm sitting there is you gotta be kidding me. It was. It was an easy pick through it right to on an audible change. Nobody heard but me right go to the scientists come back to go back out we throw a couple more completions games ends right so we go back home. I'll get ready to go to my off season. I'm walking through the mall to get a few gifts for christmas to head back home because we got beat the first round of the playoffs right her a second round first draft second we won the division was the division around so do not got it was visually. So we did. I'm walking through the mall. And i go by a footlocker. I walk in the footlocker to see if somebody recognizing cabbage patch the. Tv's on there. I walk in the plate. Going south jerry. Back to pass intercepted by frank midfield dude. I'm tired i had. I'm walking through that. It was like somebody new. So let's hit that twenty. Let's hit that button. And just so sean walk into the mall. Just one last dig at him but yet he i'm telling you half the size i was like on my heels sink komo many. I don't wanna make dude. He put his helmet. My chest push me and went cabbage. Patch teabag on me. And i still had to go back to my sideline. You gotta be kidding ooh funded. That's that's a highlight reel and then. I go back on a monday after. We're getting ready to art exit meeting. Go home for the off season and i'll be damned. I'm not walking through and footlockers. They're and they're playing on their tv. They have in their. It's thrown a pick. And bob don creaky calling the play by play. I'm saying i got out of there. You pull your down a little more. I think i'll keep walking. Lost thirty eight twenty one. Yeah unbelievable biscuit. Hey right there. We're gonna take a quick break brother. I gotta do this commercial and and we'll get your old school versus new school with the miami. Dolphins a seventy to be able to compete like they did with an undefeated season with the pittsburgh steelers are chiefs or whoever you think. How would they fare shawn watson team. The texans plan and seventy two old school versus new school. Let's talk it. Pittsburgh steelers are eleven. Oh it's sports talk seventy soda weight loss weight loss dot com a mom when you look around as building in my teammates here forty pounds plus for me eighty pounds for ramon thirty for as c- kenny webster. Jimmy barrett. i'm talking about. There's a bunch of guys here. Starting their modeling careers. Man think they're going to double dip from soda. Weight dot com. Well it's not a diet. It's weight loss. Click on the soda weight. Loss program sorta weight loss dot com that nationwide program in the upper left hand corner and see why it will. Well y y the raven excitement's about because not giving you. Some appetizers suppressant pill is going to teach how to eat. 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Your rockets your voice sportstalk on the ninety talking little old school new school this around the time that all the peeps across the country were into december. Pittsburgh's eleven and nobody is there as i refer to often no matter where i'm at when they talk about it trying to put it in different terms. That aren't just old cliche. Football terms is an emcee. And i have talked about it before. Is it when you play france while they're not the baltimore ravens while they're a great friend. franchise great team. They were decimated. Yesterday i like ten starters. I think they should not have been this close right right so yesterday. Not normally for for instance. When i say birdied the par. Fives mc. you're playing in the houston open right in the in the in the houston open. I am see to win the tournament. Four par fives. What are you gotta do your mouth and you're going to have to bury them. Three four probably three out of the four days. Just stay in it right because these guys are good and i say okay the par threes. Dude their tougher. Every you gotta make par on most of if he can squeeze in a birdie once in a while. You may bogeyman short par thirty or twenty four right. That's playing new orleans. Tampa kansas city. You got to beat those guys. Like the raiders. Did beat him once. You've got to be able to do those well. Then the raiders go to atlanta. And what do they do. They urinate down their leg against a went to yard par three ryan and in a huge green and can't hit it with no slope right now and you can't hit the green. It's the same thing here. So you got to birdie the par-five with attorney you gotta. You gotta beat the teams. You're supposed to beat. We talked about the texas. When you play a team loaded baltimore team or when you play pittsburgh or when pittsburgh place. Buffalo got apart part one of those teams. If you're buffalo said we gotta go beat pittsburgh. That's a par. We'd like to birdie that one steal that game if we could so they baltimore yesterday. Should have been a birdie right. They hung in there. They fight its rival. Ugly pittsburgh did which tells me something right so i. I liked that. It tells me somebody team as long as every wins. Not dude. you're you're you're biding your got one foot over the cliff eventually. You're gonna lose three in a row because your team's not good but to get to eleven and no you've got to be real so it's about time we start talking about undefeated seasons and pittsburgh if you can win the when you're playing ugly and then go beat teams when you're playing really good against good teams. Well then you gotta shot so we talked about it. And then i threw in the miami dolphins seventy-two undefeated new england patriots. They were the twitter between this one. And two thousand seven two thousand eight super bowl and now the pittsburgh steelers and then it got me thinkin which teams would fare better. The eighteen completions attempts to super bowls. Miami dolphins plan now because they were more physical but in throw it or a little bit more finesse. Maybe not as fiscal thought all the teams like maybe the chiefs or the saints. How would they fare to put that seventy two team against the chiefs. Dante's i'm sorry. They're getting their asses. Chief team can do both and you get okay. great. I love it. That's why i'm wondering. I've i would tend to agree with you and i saw old school right now. It's those teams in the football. And i know people say athletes are better these days. Well you know what they got more. But i can tell you what. I got athletes from june. Jim brown when he was planning couldn't in any air. Jim brown pretty good athlete. Okay so i got good ones in. Every there's a little more and rules were tougher than face fat. And if kansas city played and seventy two mahomes doesn't get little bit of leeway in a pocket if bob greasy played. Now guess what. They're a little more freedom in pockets to take all that into account biscuit. What you got for me man old school new school just kind of for fun. Who would fare. Better the physical dolphins against the steelers or the chiefs or the finesse. Sometimes physical passing attack under old school rules. If the chiefs went back and played and seventy two john you know first of all. I'll be shot. I would be. I put the house on the was not going on visas and you can look at their coach and the press conference and just tell right now. He knows that teams not no. They're not they they they probably gonna lose two games they they just barely winning and and so that's just throw that out to win the steelers on feed we we can. We can put that to but me. I'm the guy sign in the barber shop at the sports bar. I'm not just born with new school. 'cause y'all putting numbers Agreed i'm not. I'm not and then and and the key be what we plan on biscuit. Here's what we're playing under. The miami dolphins if we throw them in this era zahn can kick and warfield greasier plan under these rules if we take kansas city and take are the saints and throw him in seventy two steelers. Old school raiders. jack. Ham jack. Lambert andy russell donnie. Shell blunt or bob greasy. Nick bond. con- you know czanka kick war and the guy they gotta play seventy two rules. Who wins. yeah. I'm just. I'm going with old school man because listen to this day advantage i give old school yes. New school has better athlete and they bigger stronger. Faster doesn't make him better football players right. Does it make while getting to and not as i mean. I'm watching games on sunday. And i'm like what the hell the safety looking at. You know what i mean. They the verbal the the surreal part. Again it was just much better back in the old day john. I'm i'm just looking at those making how you not do. Tyreek was going down the field. You gotta turn the ball for on. If you get the defendant think about think about this matchup biscuit. Mel blunt press coverage. Now six three and a half looked like you know. He looked like he looked like hawk on spenser for hire remember that show big old baller brother who was on alert. Talk about us look at. I remember a first time. I laid eyes on mel blunt. He came to usc. And is i'm talking about in person came to one of our training camps. He was working for the nfl. Like in the security department. He came to give us a speech. Do we're practicing at training camp. he's on the sidelines. And i'm like who's that i mean the long and sleek and look like he's still eligibility and they said that's what you about six three and a half almost six four corner. I don't care what he was listening. And i'm six five. And i was a bit taller than him long. And behead was baldy. Looked like he said no wonder guys couldn't get off press coverage with this cat and so picture tyreek hill playing against melbourne and when the balls in the air they knew how to get so there is a there is some great compare and contrast. I think it makes for a great argument. But i'll tell you what tyreek hill would have a tough run getting off press coverage on lester hayes and mel blunt brother and and you mentioned mike haynes man come on man. We're talking about these news with purity. Bbc's they the bibi's nowadays shawn bailey employees the ball. I'm what what is the diesel. The deep the backs in the nfl today is low comparison. The back in the day all these played ball they they run beside the guy and then try to. They tell me what they try to do. Is they try to time. It and grab the dude hands when the ball get there instead of play. The ball right played a ball biscuit this. I'm i'm look i'm old school. I can't let my home get roughed up. You ain't gonna be no who spent and and Bump in the flat. Now i've seen a terry bradshaw bit duck on his head and whatnot factor. Emeals joe turkey. Jones i'll never forget that two biscuit a gotcha makes for great argument. I go with the newer teams. Because i think the play calling. Let's and that's good. Let's discuss that i would. I would like to enriched. We'll get to your take quick break come on back. Swells are seven three two one two five seven hundred new school for sold school newton rules. You apply to both when you go to that era and i can tell you this right now. There is not a corner in the league playing not one that is as good as my canes was with the raiders when it comes to pure ball skill and cover corner when we talk locked down. That was mel blood. I'll take the and there's some good ones i'm telling you athleticism. Yeah but as far as the technique pure corner mike canes today would be paid who's high fake in the league right now jalen ramsey. You just got a ton of well. Whatever that is guess what my canes making my canes first on the list. Yeah ok mel blunt but that's not thinking from the technique was different. That was because you had to be different because the rule sports talk seven hundred huston iheartradio station. The astros houston astros. Rockets rockets the rocket. Your home for your home team. Sports talk seven ninety from the classic chevy sugarland studios find new roads. Bill quarterback longtime friend. Sean salisbury. This is the sean salisbury. Show albury sports talk seven hundred old verse new and it's not the question now. The steelers are eleven. oh you know. we're we're asking. The question can go undefeated but let us to talk about in decide what could set hell nine. I disagree. I think that they can okay. And it's not the individual who listen gonna tell me brady can't play in one thousand nine hundred and right and mahomes can't play and seventy it's not the individual because you're not gonna tell me jack lambert couldn't play in this league hell you damn right. He could especially league. We're getting smaller and more explosive. How lambert played middle linebacker for pittsburgh at about six four to twenty two twenty eight jack. Youngblood was playing defensive. End for the rams right around two thirty stats and talking about a full grown man. So you start to go. Individuals no question crossing over. I'm just saying under current rules. And i'm not. I can make an argument for both and biscuit did and like i. There's no doubt there certain positions. It played better than because they were more technique sound. There's no doubt the athletes are bigger. Faster stronger have more at their fingertips to go to train all that. There's no doubt there. It's it's a year round job to keep your this let it also doesn't mean that tell you watch i go back in the day and i think okay. Mercury morris been successful. Now could've right so and you would change with the era. Obviously but when it comes to teams if the kansas city chiefs played in seventy two under the rules or the pittsburgh steelers under the seventies rules. How would they fare. And if you took the miami dolphins and said well let's take our staffing but don shula and everybody to to two thousand twenty. How would they fare and so see. I look at andy reid. I say andy could've survived and seventy two. Because i think he's evolved right. The key is the of when it comes to play calling the evolve and you mentioned emcees break. Just the the way that player that the coaches the innovative playcalling and the lack of just to you know we're going to a wide rece wide receivers one tight backs right well. It's change evolve. But then i asked okay. Could those guys like eric be enemy or andy. Reid or sean payton take them back to seventy two and say here's what we did. Here's the offense we ran. Could you be innovative with two tight tight end and two backs you know. What saying in that area. So just kinda of crossover. It's not individuals. It's teams wonder how they do. Richard welcome in man how we doing. Good morning sean. On this question of you know old school new school Which teams would be who all comes down to which years rulebook we play under. Are we gonna play at chief. Richard as i said. And i'll say it again told biscuit this and i said if the steelers are come i mean if the if the chiefs are going to seventy two. They're playing by seventy two rules if the if the miami dolphins are coming to two thousand twenty bob greasy gets if you hit him on the second step he gets a fifteen yard penalty. And so so. We're we're when you switch hairs. You switch rules so under that. What do you like you older new old. Can you imagine some of these prima donna. Whiny wide receivers that. We've got now going to play. Let's say the seventy raiders and they're facing the defensive backfield with two guys nicknamed dr death and the assassin who made bets before the game would get more knockouts and then just just for the hell of it just for fun. Struggling john cusack and otis sis truck upfront with hits you eleven seconds after you got rid of the ball no contest. They couldn't take it all right fair enough rich. And i like the passion that you're going back down naming names dr death skip alonzo lonzo skip thomas jack tatum and george atkinson and phil villapiano. I mean now. You're you're mark van and now you're talking. My raiders read is. Yeah and you'll get the argument the other way. Say well how you gonna get your hands on tyreek hill if you're if you're seventy two if you jack tatum but remember. Tatum gets in this. And then the opposite is true. Coming here kodjak tatum. Play football is and listen. Who's your favorite hitter in the nfl. Played triple mal right. Ronnie lott right. Ronnie in the late seventies eighties rilot was a mind for me or writer. Guys who just would would blatant disregard for their body would knock the hell out of you right now jack. Tatum and george atkinson safeties made a living beaten the living doll. You know what i'm saying. Yeah you cross see. There was no such thing as a receiver who is a defenseless receiver. Matter of fact they looked for you to be defenseless. Boggles eight feet over your head and they got one step. They were allowed to put their chin their helmet on your chin. You ain't getting a penalty that was just called like a. It's a one step. he's going to make sure to. The guy doesn't catch it. You can't stop your momentum okay. All's good rarely were you get now. Obviously you sit there and plays over to guy comes and hits a guy in the back around to a pile get penalized but literally one step defenseless nowadays. You're penalized if a guy's hands go up and he doesn't catch the ball and you hit him in the chest with your helmet. There's a flat you so jack and jack tatum using them as donnie. Shell and pittsburgh jack. Tatum and george atkinson the book. And safeties for the raiders. That's how they made their game on intimidation and great football players. But they made you pay. I can remember some of the hits. They put on lynn swann. The unfortunate. and i don't mean this daryl stanley who got hit and was paralyzed. And you never want that to happen. It was unfortunate. How the part of his body. You you know what i'm saying. You never want that to happen. God forbid that ever happens anymore players but they base their. i remember. One one came on the that tatum. Atkinson they light them up. That's how they made their living. So the question is under the current rules in two thousand and twenty. Could jack tatum. And george atkinson donnie. Shell in pittsburgh play like that now. Jack ham outside linebacker hall of famer can play in any era because he was a sound physical. Great and space could do it all. But when you're talking about these safeties it could hit an remember now. Another thing about like mel blunt and those guys guess what they can do they can hand check you all the way the field. Yeah you know what i'm saying. They didn't have five yard rule fight and clutching and grabbing so the for the receivers had to be more physical than to get away to get off the coverage yet. So you ask yourself. Could jack tatum play by the rules. In nineteen seventy two rules he had to play by seventy two and seventy five. Could he play by the same rules in twenty twenty an be as good as he is because he lived on and atkinson and chill on intimidation. Right so you got to look at it. Both you say well. They couldn't handle the punishment well. Could those guys play without three steps and putting a helmet in your ear hole and get penalized fined and suspended on a regular basis so it does go both ways. It really really does athletes. Yes i'm trying to think right. Now if we put the chiefs who'd have a better chance of winning the chiefs and seventy. Let's just use kansas state since the reigning super bowl. Champions the chiefs play in the miami dolphins and seventy two or under those rules or the miami dolphins coming in plan the kansas city chiefs in seventy two. I mean in twenty twenty. I think the chiefs have i still think the chiefs have a better chance going back then. The dolphins do coming forward to play in this era. And that's just to me because of the quarterback like patrick mahomes is so good i think he even two types washer access to make it work. Yeah they're not gonna be is lethal but like so you're going back to those like you take all right. There's no way they're not and they can run the ball and yet say those two super bowls eighteen attempts over eighteen and greece's in the hall of fame right with just but if your team going to that or don't you just say i'm a tramp boat race you good luck. Keep because you can't throw the football right or you say my guys are just. Yeah with this speed. You have anybody that can jake scott. The safety god rest his just passed away. I believe dick anderson a safety or one. Could you guys actually keep up with our relentless pursuit of a two minute drill. Basically playing fast if you took your attitude to seventy two. And he took their attitude. It's basically comes down to this. You get a guy who's a precision boxer running around the ring to guy who's mechanically sound can knock you out with with one punch right of the miami dolphins czanka and kick and the rest of them but also the differences. It's also which death you wanna die. The fast pat mahomes death were in three plays. It's like what hit us or the four yards for hearts. Slant route four yards. Bob greasy to curl route. It's flat route. Handed the mercury mars and the gym kick. It takes eighteen minutes to go from the twenty two the two right. You know what i mean so it depends on how patients but it does make for an athlete's yes. It does make for an interesting question because there are teams. I look at some of the teams. Like you look at the two thousand baltimore ravens right right. Yeah and you say looked like an old school defensive foot throwing the ball right. Look look like bob. Greasy would protect the ball. Don't turn it over. Run the football and kick your ass on defense. Now we cross over those two. Now you're dealing with guys who could step into twenty ten and could step back to seventy two those type of franchise saying i don't really care when they play. You're gonna have a hard time. Beat them because they could physically match up now. The rules obviously are a little bit different. But the question is and it could physically match on one and we're good enough to beat you in other ways and the other so the an and even since two thousand raves it. Isn't it weird that we're talking two decades to watching those ravens. Now we're we're at twenty twentieth then how much. The games even changed since then odd dramatic. It's you ask yourself who. Now if we even went into the middle there who wins now the twenty twenty ravens or the twenty. I mean twenty twenty ravens or the twenty twenty. Kansas city chiefs. Meaning take the two thousand ravens and stick them in twenty twenty. Oh man i'd still go with the cheap. It goes back to be the quarterback but so of all the reason why you're sold on this is the dude is taken snaps. That depends a lot on. Yes okay sports. Talk seven hundred much to discuss love. The conversation will also russell westbrook traded for john wall and first round pick and we'll also get into starting to break down the keys of this football game this weekend. Can you get pressure on philip rivers and can you generate offense without willfuller. Well number four still here. He didn't get suspended. Sportstalk seven. ninety. Sean salisbury show continues on sports. Talk seven nine hundred ninety for your home teams before to a little bit of the texas stuff. I'm on a set. The line miami dolphins seventy two seventy two team. Kansas city chiefs twenty twenty team set in the line. We're playing at the pasadena. Rose bowl for the super bowl. Hot damn seventy. Don't they play the superbowl there anymore. I don't know but they should every four years. What's the best outdoor venue. There isn't football the setting the san gabriel mountain. Every it's awesome. I think a lot of it too is the lack in that area and fascinates remember details. Dropped into a high rent district community. Yeah getting in and out and all the hotels infrastructure choir and people in that area probably not willing to you. Don't get to you. Don't get eminent domain role in pasadena in that area. The rose bowl. But we're playing at their fair enough that setting points almost at four and a half chiefs minus four and a half i would take the chiefs really inside the seventy two dolphins. Everybody's healthy yeah. Don shula andy reid. Bob greasy pat mahomes a and. Here's what we gotta do. Do we go these. But we're here's what we're gonna do. We do yes since we're since we're moving the dolphins to their era and not going back over saying super bowl in the orange bowl. Seventy two chiefs gotta go back and where the old chief uniforms and play in the orange bowl in a seventy two super bowl or seventy to see that that air early seventies. let's go. We will miss the will will allow you to hand check at wide receiver. Tell you're fifteen yards down the field we will for so the defense gets a rule for them right. Yeah will allow you to hit the quarterback. There there's no and the rule of will also allow the receiver since their hand check. And then if you're forced out of bounds in mid air you know how they used to catch a ball force feed down. They call it. A catch is a rule that you could put your feet down. Yeah we'll say that that's a catch now. So now you get the check rule. We're gonna make it even. We're going to mix it up with even with the with the receiver the quarterback rules. You no longer get to stand in a pocket if you throw the ball and the guy hit you with his helmet to the upper party. Your chanter is shoulder. Pat happens to hit you in the ear hall. You don't get a penalty but for the quarterback. Now when you break out of the pocket when you start your slide like you have now the can't hit you back. Then if you start your slide but still hadn't got into your slide and they hit you unless it was so you getting a penalty so those rules fair enough fair enough and overtime is you play. Full court both got you play full quarter the winter sudden death all set the rules. It's fifteen minute quarters. Obviously it's super. You're going to keep playing fifteen minute quarters and we'll give you the get the ball first in score a touchdown. The game's not over the other team gets a chance to match and venit sudden-death score i so all of a sudden the chiefs when the overtime toss they go down score touchdown. The miami dolphins get a chance to match and then if they go score now it becomes sudden death were a field goal ends it and if you if they wanna change and say. Let's just play quarters. Whoever wins that so if it's twenty four twenty four and it ends up thirty one twenty four. Let's say you score a touchdown on the first drive. We get to play out the quarter. We can do that if you prefer it so we actually play a full quarter so if you lose the toss you still know you're going to get possessions to make sense. Yeah let's even do that. Let's make it better so we'll play fifteen minutes fifteen minute overtime. And then after the first overtime it becomes sudden death so if you're tired after the first overtime seeing this quarter number six if you kick a field goal on your first possession ballgame over fair enough. Yeah all right. I've said it at minus four the phone number seven one three two one two five seven ninety since i said it it minus four. How much you bet. And it's seventy seventy two degrees and my current situation. I can't do more than one hundred bucks ballpoint giving you five thousand with it. I'd sheets have all of it. Yeah i just feel so good about the quarterback in any era playing so like that dude is just different. Okay andrew. what about you man. I think you're young young guys only get to see you guys. Only get to see miami through right back in and hear what people say. I actually got to see him as a kid. But very young but with the naked eye and watched all of it. So i set four and a half point favorites chiefs so you know the new rules i set so we kind of split in between the two who wins or who were you. Bet i i would bet the chiefs but i knew that i know that it will definitely be a tough game. Offensively for the chiefs with all these rules coming in. I know mahomes is going to. I think have some hard time. Getting those passes in behave tyreek hill was as dominant in this game as he was this past sunday. I think the chiefs were definitely take. Okay now the over unders fifty two and a half to go play the under in this game. I would think so too going to be. This isn't going to be achieved. Go out and put up. Forty points on somebody. That's for damn sure. So you take in the under fifty two and a half. So you're taking like a twenty seven twenty. Don't nba nba nfl stuff this year. But i'm about ready to start firing on unders overvalue and all you go look at all these games. They're they're setting lines way too high. The under the i had the sooners foles lock yesterday. Just bet that stone cold lock in pittsburgh baltimore game to me was a no brainer going in the numbers being you go. Look at games pass. I think only like two or three overs hit the only time i can tell you to take it. If it's like seventy nine and a half this weekend in a college football game take the over. Dea take the lowest under and take the highest over. It usually means they know something. If the numbers said it like forty and a half points in a game. I would bet you take the under. And i'll bet you it ends up like thirty eight thirty nine and a half that that somebody thirty nine have somebody who the score will end up being like seventeen to twelve. Okay it jay. I'm just telling you it's crazy but it's nuts or or seventeen thirteen if you had like the over under was what that's what's at thirty the over under set it forty so twenty seventeen thirty eight twenty seventeen. They'll get the seven. Take the low. At least my rule is the lowest on during the highest over if oklahoma getting ready to play texas in the over eighty four. I know that time just throwing a number out. Guess what you should take the over under. Take take him to score eighty five right because at about halftime in a game like that be thirty five twenty eight or forty two thirty seven. And you'll say damn were. I just need two touchdowns in the second good. Yeah usually fisherhouse. If i had a chance to talk to the fisher family. I would start crying. Because i can't articulate how much it meant to us is to comfort home for military and veteran families saying no charge allowing the family to be together to support their loved one during medicine prices to help. You thrive through these hard situation. Go to fisherhouse dot org for more info and how you might help. That's fisherhouse dot org. We begin today's meditation with the few sipping exercises to remind us. A little treat can go a long way so pick up your mcafee. Iced coffees close. Your eyes and deep sip and deep satisfaction out a treat retreat at mcdonald's right now mcafee iced coffee and any size and any flavor for just ninety nine cents until eleven. Am price of participation may vary. I did that last week. With oklahoma state and you guys techniques. I took the overseas over. But that's what i'm saying. I took it was like said it was like. I think it was high sixties. Yeah nine and a half or snow was in the sixties. And i said oklahoma state any big ten oklahoma state coming off the embarrassment against oklahoma. I said are you kidding me. I and that was done third quarter. Yeah waving that was what they both wasn't in the forties and the thirties. I mean it wasn't like up near ninety points or above out. The halftime is well. There that that's money in my pocket. I got that one so it's interesting so the so if you want to chime in the line at four and a half. We've shown you the rules. We're taking rules from both eras and mixing them the the dolphins and seventy two or the chiefs twenty twenty team playing in the rose bowl. This february rules for quarterbacks we of take some of the rules from twenty twenty some of the rules from one thousand nine hundred seventy two and apply them. And i sent the game at four and a half points for the chiefs. Who you think is fifty four by the way ninety. Four spread was the say it was a it was in the sixties. I know for a fact that had to do a video on it took i. I only beat that one by thirty. Yes right see us. Peons fifty eight. I think it was like sixty three and a half or six somewhere in. That was still is way too many four right so that's one one. If they descended at eighty. I still i still had. I would've taken the over. I would have to even if it was set at seventy nine and a half. I would have taken the over all right. Sports talk seven ninety. We thirty minutes to go. We'll come back and we'll start to creep into today. And tomorrow the texans canada with the rush trade and and what's going on here and we got the poll question did who won the trade washington or the the houston rockets. But with the texans. How do you overcome we'll hear. Jj watt an romeo cornell bull said about the suspensions and how you move on from them and we'll break down a little bit of what's going on and how you approach this game with these teams sportstalk seven hundred. Hey you son of a bitch put on some houston sports stone comb. All you have to do is ask me to play sports. Talk seven ninety on iheartradio very much. Now gotta go whip ammann's asked i love it when you go stomping halls sean salisbury on sports. Talk seven ninety where astros rockets play and real. Texans talk look. Is it saturday or sunday. They could saturday don't Gonzaga baylor get it on this week. They'll play this week in. Hopes meant soups. Why do i think they play this weekend. That's one verse two. I believe if not. I know. Gonzaga's one i think baylor still too aren't they. I'm not going to lie. I've watched zero seconds of college basketball. I've watched a little bit. Not as much will once january hits but don't they play. Look that up do the do they play right now. Because that is a to tell you what the zags are. Filthy and the baylor bears are really good to like saturday. I want yeah there. You go twelve o'clock on eastern or here twelve o'clock here okay. So apple right okay. So we got our at at the arena or simply all field. How okay so. They're playing at the big one. I would Oh it's that indianapolis so is the field house. That's not that's where the pacers play. Okay there. Oh that's right okay. So there you go. I was going to say they're not playing on. I use campus at assembly hall. There'd be i've just tournament. I didn't know it must be i didn't know or no. No no it's just a match. And i don't know why they're playing. There is air tournament. i have no clue i. That's a good in india's earth the indianapolis star tournament. I don't know whether the senior league game. I thought it was just one and i don't know why they're i don't know if covid situation moved it that's why i said. Why would they be having sembler hall. But then they're having it because that's indiana's home court which is obviously a great basketball court at and i've been there once and it was awesome to watch game there but so they're playing at the pacers fieldhouse because the big on. What's it called. Lucas oil is at the stadium. Holds play. yeah that's right so they're playing that pacers play. That'll be a monster bad. We can't have fans there because that'd be. That'd be an energetic game and it's still will to really good teams. I think baylor's still second right and gonzaga whose filled loaded this year. Both teams well coached so. That'll be there all right. Do you have speaking of indianapolis do you early in the week when we heard the suspensions come down and before you come. Mci i want to get here from romeo cornell and and watson and watt on these will roll through all four comments but earlier in the week so keep this in mind and maybe it's changed. You had the colts getting beat and if even at the internet you liked the right on monday. You liked the yeah. And then the suspensions came down and it bothered you enough team wise to change that. Course i'm gonna ask him. We come back how you feel now after we listen to. Let's go thirty two thirty three thirty four and thirty five andrew in that order. Start with j. J. watt and. Here's what what watson and bringing fuller back watson's say and romeo cornell on the responsibility of the player. we'll start with j. J. watt on though suspensions. It's obviously unfortunate for our team We too are better players on a team. Obviously and so. It's unfortunate those two guys you know they. You know soco to would against wind down with that That's kinda out of my area and found out just like everyone else found out But yeah we're gonna miss those guys. Those guys can be back and ready to go whenever that time is that season but Yeah that's that's a tough situation of the passing game. We're just gonna continue to what we do. We got the nice man. Got to step up you know so if is a couple of guys coming from the practice squad or a couple of guys that that is getting more reps and You know i'm practicing for this upcoming game. You know the metallica and the standard is gonna stay the same so For me just found open guy. Just keep push reorganised very important. So deftly guy that i'm gonna be working on this this just last month in for sure and the only thing i can tell them that they're responsible for themselves. You know that's one of the things about the sports business. You know the players. They play the game in the coaches coach. The game but the coaches are not responsible for what the players do. I mean the players men and they do what they do. We try to educate them. We've talked to him about it. We give them the rules. They know what the rules are. They know where they can get help from their organization on and if if they don't use what's available to him i mean you can't put it on the coach. Gm or anybody else. You know the player hestitate responsibility. And i think both of those guys admitted that they did the wrong thing and that they apologize for it and And we'll see how it goes going forward. I that may be the best of quote and sound bite from a football coach. We've heard in this town in white in longtime. Yeah they're they're grown ass men. They gotta be held responsible. Didn't you there your guys see. You don't need a bus. Toss him any more than they toss themselves. If it's not on it ain't on romeo cornell. It's not on tim kelly. It's not on romeo. I don't even know if fuller's married it's not on his wife. It ain't on somebody else's kid it's not on the wide receiver coach of the defensive. Back coach on any of them anthony weaver. It's on them period. That i'm telling you that. Fifty eight seconds or fifty four seconds. Whatever was fifty four seconds is about as you can't say it any better we've given them the we tell them we tell them the resources they have. We tell them what they have. This help. they know they can use it We can explain and tell them what to do. But they're grown ass men it. That's the best sound by. We've had from coach football coach in this town since i've been here because he put accountability on them responsible and at the end. Didn't kiss everybody's ass and say. Oh yeah definitely. We'll have them back. You keep it out there. Let them sweated a little bit. Yeah we'll see we'll see what happens. Moving forward latino. You don't need it set. Oh yeah these are sean set. There said later on that he wants will fuller back. Sure well of course you do. But i don't want willfuller and you want him back. But but if but for me. If i'm if i'm sean as a quarterback i would have said the same thing. Yeah i would have said yes. I want him back. He's my guy. I'm not gonna you want people to know you're not gonna turn your back on a guy because he made a stupid mistake now if he did. But then to sean. You heard say well but you know what next guy up our. We're gonna do the same things we always do. Meaning dude he doesn't get to dictate will fuller if we're any good or not. Yeah that's the way he got. Approach it if you're the quarterback. Well you believe it or not you gotta let us think it right. So of course he wants it back but romeo cornell you put the accountability and their frigging lap. And you should sign anybody else. I could have been formed by dr will. Then go to the doctor. Let the team doctor tell you can or can't take it. Don't go to some outside source so one hundred one hundred percent and if somebody wants to tell me that a twenty five year old or thirty year old or twenty eight year old. Oh man the the. They've gotta have some direction on where they can turn. I promise you sitting in those meetings and having the playbook and then all the resources handed out to you they have it and they know if you can remember a play. You can remember in that sheet. There's a phone number that says call this or you know the directions into the gps to the team doctor's office you call him to. Hey is this legal. Oh cool yeah. Don't take that right riots. The best fifty. Four seconds coaches know ass kissing. Protect your players telling you like them. They made a mistake. They're going to deal with it and going forward we'll see bingo amen. Romeo cornell good gracious about all right before we go to bracelets. Lets you with your thoughts now. Monday love the texans. It matter of fact your as confident as this was. I thought more than you were with new england. Damn lock to win. all right. don't gone. I don't feel fuller gone. I don't feel as great. I still think they win this game. Just because that's more than thing. I've got a very bad taste my mouth about and i know it's one game. I've bad taste in my mouth of watching the watching the colts take on the titans they were. They just hit derek. The texans don't have a derrick henry. Obviously but i think that you can move the ball into. Shana played so all but the question. Maybe i'm stupid for it. Because who the hell he throwing the football to now. Outside of brandin cooks and kiki like there's a real issue here is going to use his tight ends of bunch but i still think that they are playing with the better momentum at the moment and i know some people don't believe momentum and all it's like i use it as a confidence. That's i think it's important right. Now into sean at a different level of confidence so i still think they win. I just don't think it's a slam dunk ish as i believe that it wasn't even if i was silly for thinking. Hey it's a slam dunk. All right. we come back. I'm gonna tell you how i feel about it. And who i think's going to win and we'll get into. This is just as we sit today. Maybe it'll change tomorrow. But how i feel about it and the colts and the texans in this game and what steve powell said in the week made me think about win. That'll be next. We'll discuss sports talk seven ninety schantz ousmane show. You know. it's not healthy stressing about work. Maybe you're out of work. Maybe not getting paid what you want. Maybe you're in a certain business where they've shut it down or you're not getting enough hours. I got the way to help you. Stop stressing hit the reset. Button and twenty twenty. We need it. 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You do not have to be a techie so take the free career evaluation today at my computer career dot. Edu rocket science. It's my computer career. Dot edu sir. Sports talk seven hundred home of the rockets astros and the best lineup in houston sports. No back to sean salisbury. Beautiful world trees. Sports are seventy sean salisbury. Show emcees here andrew green. Here's well we're talking about the texans and the colts in you got the texans us and you just don't feel as comfortable as you did. Obviously with willfuller and bradley roby. They're andrew you gotta. You gotta thought about this right now. Your first. Are you a texans guy andrew. Yeah i am okay. Wh- what do you think. Sorry can you explain it again. We have a few people in here all came noise. Tell him to be quiet. Not kidding kick their that television show going on until ten o'clock. I'm just a texans or colts. Oh probably quotes. Why just because this whole thing. That has happened happening. You know suspension your. Yeah and then what see what we show is up against the texans. Philip rivers is just going to have one of those days where he's going to show off so it's going to be the colts. Yeah what's ironic about t. Y hilton scored his first touchdown a week ago. Meltdown of two thousand twenty destroys. He destroys the texans like there is career number. But this is the first time with a quarterback that doesn't go to his skill sets a maybe maybe or he erupts this week. That's katy will want to put that on all right. So we're corners by the way i think it's like sixteen or eighteen games and it's it's well over one hundred yards per game if he played every game of his career against the the texans team gain he jerry. Rice randy moss and t. y. Hilton sixteen games eighty five receptions. One thousand five hundred thirty seven yards and ten touchdowns slots to he. Well guess what i said. That's an all pro team. All pro against texas. So we'll see if t y hilton bus out. Here's how i feel. Today i am. Steve palo brought up the our senior analyst for pro. Football focus on tuesday. Brought up an interesting point. He goes every and i think we know that. Not only is sean plan is best football. He's in maturing to into special special talent. But i'm talking about special quarterback and my love for him continues to grow about his game and just how good he is and what it's going to look like when he settles in with a new coach. And whether it's tim kelly staying. Here's a playcaller. Somebody else or eric. The enemy and getting him settled into the point. Where it's like. Oh okay now we got. We're moving forward and to see where his game goes but he's if it doesn't go anywhere else is really damn good now. Okay we're fortunate to happen. But st paul's all made a good point. He goes shaun. You know every year about two or three times not this year though he's had a clunker. Yeah where it's been like and it happened every quarterback he's for the most well mobile homes clunkers. Three thirty two touchdowns. I think mahomes only been under like two hundred twenty five yards eight. Yeah he doesn't have it very often those eight most those they probably one. Yeah and he probably didn't have to throw 'em loss like right games so thank you. You look at You look at this and you say okay is it gonna happen will fuller gone. Defense is played a little bit. Better verse the run. And the colts aren't overly dominant the run although nobody said to be overly dominant run against the colts for them against the texans for the most part. You take roby out. You limit the depth back there and now your guy who was on the bench now has to come in and your dime back now becomes a nickel in your nickel. Now becomes a star. Get my point how that how that thing works. I'm leaning towards the colts right now. And maybe it's for me. It's it's it's it's recency bias. No gang suspended at but no way. It's probably more of thought it out there. And what is it called. When thought it out there in the space and hope that i'm reverse psychology reverse psychology. thank you. Maybe that's it but also. I watched the colts. You get humiliated and haven't been situations on teams. Were you've been on a team that gets humiliated in a game. Thanks change during the practice week. For whatever reason whether it's hyper folk if you're a good teams bad teams. Get their ass. Kicked the jets every week. What are you gonna do you. Not players called scott players. We know that there have been inconsistent with it and it gets special against good teams in the colts weather the texas while the record says we're not very good. The quarterback says well we can be good and there's mean his performance and they've got player so but after getting humiliated in watching derrick henry. I'm talking about treat them like sixth graders last week. As we a fistfight a grown man for six raise a boxing match. You give my point. The maturity let. It just looked different. It looked like a pro. Football team was playing against sixth-graders on defense the way he was running the ball. And derrick henry can be that can be that guy and if when that happens to you got two choices you either put your tail between your legs and take the next week's ass wilpon would. They don't have the runner but they got a quarterback that can issue issue one in a different way or you go back to work and there's a different feel and the colts have been a top three defense yards wise up all year long so now see. I believe they waltz into here. They're going to make him one dimensional. And i think the one dimension although they're gonna throw it a lot i think there's going to be too much burden on the one dimension. Me throwing it for sean. I don't think he's gonna have a clunker. I don't think that. I think he's going to have to play his best game to win. Now you think about he has to do with the rest of the season right. You think about that. Last week he was the highest rated quarterback had his highest rating. I think ever yeah. He's now didn't just quarterback right and he's like number three or y- he's in that tees in the best of the best right now so. I think that's going to happen now. The colts front seven is going to start. I believe deforest buckner is back. And i'm telling you what he's really good player. Leonard good player i an. Here's my biggest concern. Not just how the the offensive line in the run game and kim can they handle the front seven of the of the colts. You know all that they're not going to run it much but just on different looks to colts. Try to give them to try to create some pressure in the past game. It's the other side. How are you going gonna get pressure on rivers because if rivers in an indoor facility sets his feet and you don't hit him that's why he's been good this year. Yeah he is. He's twitter man when he's good. He's fantastic when he's bad he's he's horrible that she's telling. Jj watt run like a madman with your hair on fire. Get after and if you do that. So that's the better quarterback resides in houston. The better team resides in indianapolis. The hotter team resides in houston. Even though to their players are out the more should i say desperation because the while the holes are playing for something real the texans still on right and they feel more desperate though because they it's a fight and they're asking and and they not only got their ass kicked but they got their asses kicked by their division right. Who's in first place now. So it makes us on prime right now. Lean and now. I think it's probably. I think there's points to be had even with willfuller out i do but i i also think when i say points to me. I don't think this is a thirty eight thirty four shootout. I don't think you're going to have to grind it out this one. Yeah yeah like twenty. Three twenty one. Twenty four twenty. Maybe twenty four twenty three. I think it's one of those late wins. But i know the which teams more likely to put thirty plus to the titan. I mean the the High personally thirty. Plus with known what i know. It's just the quarterback. I'd take watson fuller but the team. That's more likely to be a little bit angrier after what happened to them last week. You know how it is. You're gonna find somebody bloodied your nose like the next student bloody and my nose and i don't know how capable the texans are of bloodying. Your nose in a fistfight right. I know what they can do when they running around hit you and then move because they're finesse winds passing the ball but they better expect a humiliated pissed colts team come into town of get a couple of players back. We'll discuss more tomorrow. Great to have. Mc back andrew. Great are you back with tomorrow. i won't be. I think josh would be great stuff. Andrew we appreciate you coming on great job today to chris gordian andy clue up next in the trenches. Follow map thomas show with ross and than the eighteen months afternoon. Hey we don't ever take for granted we appreciate you. We'll see you tomorrow will be safe out. There lee begin. Today's meditation with a few sipping exercises to remind us a little treat can go a long way. Pick up your mccafe. iced coffees. Close your eyes and deep scipion and deep satisfaction out a treat retreat at mcdonald's right now mcafee iced coffee and any size and any flavor for just ninety nine cents until eleven. 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