17 Episode results for "Puertas"

Alibaba es multada por infracciones antimonopolio  NTX

Daily Tech News Show

08:08 min | 3 months ago

Alibaba es multada por infracciones antimonopolio NTX

"Whatever business you're in growth is just about getting bigger at adp. We believe it's about getting stronger by turning data into insights so you can build teams that work as teams by using our ai technology to help catch payroll errors before their errors and by keeping a head of thousands of changing regulations. So you can keep ahead of everything else. Adp businesses like yours stronger everyday. Adp hr talent time and payroll her regular pc's technologically express only for mass important electric bills. So don't be dang campbell's in departamento the hostess and was you not but that's your next to support but a copy ramon puertas as the microsoft exchange. It means the bruce contact allies probably thirty years. Sober journalists is does groups komo have new protein. You post apathy solar and more paranoid. Pacelli me there's exchange of lonzo participation in mirasol us that those as equality canea on took me on. He's does extremes. 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Whatever business you're in growth isn't just about getting bigger at adp. We believe it's about getting stronger by turning data into insights so you can build teams that work as teams by using our ai technology to help catch payroll hours before their errors and by keeping ahead of thousands of changing regulations. So you can keep ahead of everything else. Adp helps businesses like yours growth stronger every day. Adp hr talent time and payroll.

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THE SLEEPING GIANT

The big d zone

07:13 min | 2 months ago

THE SLEEPING GIANT

"Escape us game escape escape. The big these team means just enjoy the show. Debate these understand impala. I don't know what the cat is going on over. Foss tuna foster saint. Louis was one that i watch the weather and I watch for my news So as you know trying to get my campaign picked up. Because i'm running for roy plant seed and offended the jury not a peep so i think the my information cinema website i and well i set up the at the campaign email after the fact. Let's pull the for senate twenty twenty two at mel dot com. I send them everything. Well i said the other stuff but I just set up dea campaign email but the thing of the matter is on. I can in any kind of press. There was another guy up press and I was wondering okay. So i tried to call a couple of times political reporter. I gave them my number my name. I left two messages. Like i said we'd the one that's supposed to be Not talking to media not to meet not talking to us like one point. It's been a ruse. So i don't know what the deal i mean on a let people know that they have another choice. I mean you have a choice by someone that has been You know indicted for sunday long as governor and other thing You have someone who was affected by the mob. That's how he may news and got myself. But i'm not being a that's fine being called. That's i'm double myself to sleep in giant. You know still missouri strong with my campaign team. But i find it talked up of my delta sleeping giant because they don't know because i give him out all the stuff am i. Why would why the would you ask a photo. And you're not gonna use the story look for for days. I check every jet. I have their app. And by the way anchor. You're the only after my tire phone and my tie a phone that refilled it to obey. I had to always take off. what's up. put you back on. I always had to in because you don't like anti foam but anyway i had the fath- app to apm okay. I've been checking. Age is every solitary day. Why would you ask for foetal if you're not gonna hear the plea in a photo so we could Running on erin online. Nothing not a frigging beat. I told much citizens. I'll let you know when i be on tv for my campaign. i can't let my pant campaign tan martha puertas know. If you know if they don't show me are they. If they ain't going to do anything. I mean is absolutely a third so There's another thing western journalists. I just didn't him crap. I gotta get the facebook. i help it. don't mess. According and i'm still reporting good so i send them set a political story now political vita on western journalist. I said hello. I am running for senate in missouri. And i am not getting picked up by news media. I have a west. I started my campaign. told. I told five two fath- too here in saint louis but did not pick cover my campaign and then i gave them my website which is shop called for senate dot com to shop. Put for senate dot com. I mean you know. Just waiting on him but i wanna what the hell is going on i am. I'm double myself to sleep in. Because nobody's picking me up. Nobody picked me up thankfully when i ran for house only do the newspaper in the newspaper. Immaturity madrid pick me up. When i was running for healthy wednesday fine gael. Don't do what the people to know the other choices in the upcoming election. Because roy blunt he did i mean. This is this is huge. I mean not. Every day we Retiring senator and people fighting for the people see remember what claire mccaskill was had to rerun again income. Josh hawley i mean come on. I mean but this is over tiring on now. I mean this is a seed. But i'm trying to get it. I'm trying to claim it for the people and give it back to the people. Because if i vote for building everything i'm voting for the people i'm representing for the people i mean. Come on now. Why am i being dubbed a sleeping giant. Why am i being adult asleep. Enjoy wake me up. Let go to work missouri.

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12pm Newscast

Houston Public Media Local Newscasts

02:20 min | 5 months ago

12pm Newscast

"Reporting this is. Npr live from news at eight seven in houston on koa water. As texas lives mask mandate the move is getting mixed reaction from healthcare workers and small business owners. Sarah will ernst has been looking at a new survey. That indicates support is divided here in houston the survey from progress. Texas says fifty three percent of people polled in houston either. Strongly opposed or somewhat opposed. Repealing the mask order. While forty five percent of houston's express some support for the decision results were fairly similar in dallas. But san antonio and austin showed greater support for requiring masks of the close to one thousand people surveyed in texas trump voters republicans overwhelmingly supported lifting the mass mandate well similar percentage of biden voters and democrats disapproved. And now that there's no longer a mask. Mandate the texas alcoholic beverage commission. Says it's now putting its efforts toward curbing underage drinking spokesperson. Chris porter says agents will now focus on popular gulf coast destinations. Were college students go. We're no longer going to be looking for covid nineteen enforcement because there are no more state mandates for us to enforce puertas says. I'll be watching for alcohol sales to underage people at bars and restaurants. Meanwhile stem some state. Senators say black. And latino texans aren't getting the covid vaccine vast enough houston democrat. Boris balls told a senate committee. The department of state. Health services isn't keeping its commitment to get the vaccine and communities of color we've had some deficiencies that needs to be feel and there's certain people in texas that are a real danger If you look at that the same people that are dying in large numbers. According to state data on people who are fully vaccinated five percent are black and sixteen percent were latino. We're expecting mostly cloudy skies today in tonight overnight. Low should go down to about sixty six for thursday. Slight chance of showers. High near seventy seven right now overcast skies seventy seven degrees on the uh campus. I'm gail voter. News eighty eight seven support for. Npr comes from npr stations. Other contributors include progressive insurance with the name your price.

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Porters Five Forces for Podcasting  The Stock Podcast, Ep.34

The Stock Podcast | CEO and CFO Interviews

30:15 min | 2 years ago

Porters Five Forces for Podcasting The Stock Podcast, Ep.34

"Hello and welcome to the stock podcast the only investing podcast where you get to hear interviews interviews with C._E._O.'s C._F._O.'s from public companies but if you tuned in for what's advertised you might be a little bit disappointed. This time around. This episode is one of the few exceptions where I don't have a C._E._o.. Or C._F._O.. On the podcast gas but you have me that something right the last time I did a monologue was for the podcast intro which basically told you what this podcast was all about this time around. I think I put together something that you might enjoy and you might learn something from when it comes right down to it. This podcast is centered around learning about a business and the stock podcast is business. It's a business for me as opposed to just rambling on about popular episodes best books read this year or website traffic. I'm going to try to mesh this update with something educational now. One concept that every student learns and business school is Porter's five forces so I thought that would this episode I just you sort of walked through Puertas five forces within the context of the podcasting business at the very least you'll learn about porter's five forces and for those who have already learned about Porter's five forces in school. You'll get a little bit of a refresher but I also don't WanNa blow your socks off so also gonNA focus quite a bit on this particular business the stock podcast and hopefully you'll walk away with at least a few nuggets so porter's five forces is one of the most well-known concepts in finance finance us to analyze the competitive landscape for a particular industry of business. I can't tell you how many times I've seen. The model used in investment pitches while I was on the by side so it's something that is very helpful whenever you're trying trying to understand just a competitive landscape but after touching on the fight forces all also provide an overview of the past sixteen months for this podcast followed by some really important changes to the podcast if you're not interested in hearing any of this and you tuned in just to hear a C._E._o.. C._F._O. Interview I understand. I don't blame you but I do ask that you check out the survey that I discuss at the end of this episode where you basically just go online and tell me what you think about some of the changes that I'm contemplating for the podcast going forward all you have to do just visit the website these stock podcast dot com and then click on premium. There will be a survey on there that just allows you to give me your perspective on on some of the options that I'm considering that might help this thing transition into well a going concern so let's get to porter's five forces. The first is competitive rivalry evaluating the competitive rivalry within an industry gives you a sense as to how intense competition is within that industry so looking at the number of competitors and capabilities of each now. This is a huge headwind for anyone who wants to start a podcast especially somebody who wants to make a business out of it apple posts real time numbers but earlier this year apple stated that there were more than seven hundred fifty thousand podcasts on itunes or apple podcasts or whatever they want us to call it but that's a huge number seven hundred fifty thousand podcasts. If you just assume that five percent of those podcasts are related to investing the stock podcast has almost thirty eight thousand competitors but the stock podcast has has one big advantage and that is there's no other financial podcast that I'm aware of and I do keep my eyes on this that gives listeners the chance to hear senior management from public companies talk about their business the closest competitor that I'm aware aware of which I encourage any energy investor to check out is energy titans. It's hosted by Kenny Fang the founder of Hilarion so yeah. The Algerian index is a great program that focuses on the guest rather than the business and Kenny has some really fantastic guests like Kelsey warren from energy transfer and Greg Armstrong from planes all American these guys are legends in midstream space and they're really interesting conversations conversations anyway. Competition is extremely fierce and the podcasting space so number two the bargaining power of suppliers. This is a really important component of the model for businesses that rely on inputs a raw materials to produce their product so sticking with Apple. There's a large number of electronic and technological components that go into each and every iphone and each one of those components has raw materials associated with them. If if the supplier of say microprocessors raises their price what options does apple have. Is there a large number of microprocessor manufacturers out there if so the microprocessor who raised its price with apple probably probably doesn't have much bargaining power and apple will just move onto the other manufacturer. The opposite is true if there is only a handful of suppliers but for podcasting. I think it's just a little bit more complicated to quantitatively assess. I mean who are the suppliers to podcasters another way to ask that question is what are the fundamental inputs that are needed to create a good episode or a good program. Will you need hardware like microphone audio interface cables etc but you also needs some software to do the editing and for this particular podcast I also need a financial data platform for company research podcasters also need a hosting service for both the published audio file and their website but for those three buckets buckets hardware-software and hosting the bargaining power of suppliers is very low. That's because there's tons of options out there and the ongoing costs to run a podcast so just the basics not including marketing the ongoing costs aren't that all that significant but there's one more central bucket that I left out and it's certainly the most important bucket for the stock podcast. This podcast needs guests but guests of a certain type. This is where the water starts to get a little murky within the context of the supplier bargaining power. I don't pay companies to come onto the program and they certainly don't pay me but this program is all about the guest. It's all about the company so just give me a moment to digress aggressed because this is a subject that is at least for me a little bit more challenging to fit into porter's five forces so if you've listened to the first episode you know that the overarching goal for this podcast is to provide all listeners with one of the key advantages that institutional investors have over all other investors and that key advantage is called corporate access which is basically the chance to sit down with senior management here the investment case straight from the Horse's mouth and then have the ability to ask questions by doing this professional investors learn about new investment ideas and the gain insight into a company's earnings growth potential this. Whole process also cuts out a lot of the legwork that goes into learning about a new company or industry and investment firms pay really big bucks for corporate access? I just recently saw an article from the Wall Street Journal that said corporate access who's worth roughly nine hundred million dollars to investment banks in twenty eighteen. The article also said that some institutions pay up to fifty thousand dollars for a single one on one meeting with a C._E._o.. Or a C._F._O.. Were talking about just a management team and maybe a couple of hedge fund guys in a room for an hour. The point is I wanted to give everyone the chance to hear these conversations for free and obviously would have been nice if I was able to deliver on my original goal of one company interview per week which was just way too ambitious but over the past sixteen months the stock podcast is posted thirty three interviews with sixteen. C._E._O.'s seven C._F._O.'s and nine column experts are analysts nineteen of those interviews were with senior management from a public company and three were with private companies but that's not the whole picture I actually conducted twenty three interviews with Senior Management Four Award. Those interviews never got published. That's because I concede final approval to every company that agrees to an interview I know I'm stepping into the theoretical here but I consider that concession a cost of goods sold that's because it takes meal longtime to edit these interviews and my time is valuable. Just as your time is valuable so in that regard my guests I eat my suppliers. Have significant bargaining power granted. I give them that bargaining power but if you're wondering why I would concede final approval of the interview to management well. It's basically for legal reasons. Is there a chance that a C._E._O.. Or a C._F._O.. Might accidentally reveal material non-public information absolutely it's happened been once before and it's why most of these interviews have to go to the company's legal team which also takes time way too much time before I eventually get the green light to post giving companies the chance to approve the interview also improves proves the odds that a management team will ultimately agreed to come onto the program but unfortunately those odds are still really low to give you an idea what I'm talking about. Since I started this podcast I've invited three hundred eighty seven even companies onto the program and sent more than five hundred follow-up emails with only nineteen public company interviews published the odds are obviously quite low. The only reason why when all of this out is to underscore some of the challenges in using rigid rigid financial models or concepts and certain industries and I think podcasting is a prime example however for this particular force the bargaining power of suppliers. I think by-in-large it is quite low for the vast majority of podcasters out there so moving onto the third of puertas five forces. It's the bargaining power of customers more specifically this deals with customers ability to drive the price of your product or service lower but here again is maybe a little murky who are the customers of a podcast. If you're saying to yourself well me then. This force is somewhat irrelevant because the vast majority of podcasts are free but if you didn't answer me then you probably have a good idea so as to how podcasters make money for the most part it's from advertising because I'm relatively new to media. This concept. Is maybe a little bit convoluted because for me. A customer is someone who purchases a product sucked or service for consumption but again podcasts for free so who's actually paying for the podcast for a large number of people podcasting. I think it's a hobby but for those people who are dumb enough to try to create a podcasting business. They need the numbers before a potential advertiser will even speak to them. I know this is a pretty wide range but the average number of downloads per episode seems to be somewhere between five and ten thousand so before an advertiser will talk to you. You have to have between five to ten. I think it's closer to ten thousand downloads on average per episode. The stock podcast is only averaging about six hundred downloads yeah after more than a year. The downloads for this podcast haven't even come close to that range now. Some episodes have been much more popular than others. I think the single most popular episode is Vista and part of that was due. It's the fact that they issued a press release. which was awesome? That episode is close to two thousand downloads for that just goes to show that there's a big range in terms of the number of APP but that just goes to show that there's a big range in terms of the total number breath downloads per episode but anyway the downloads for this podcast again haven't even come close to that range and that's part of the reason why I've started to rethink whether or not advertising is the right path to take and this gets me back to the bargaining power of the customer because if you just consider the sheer number of podcasts that have come to market over the past while just over the past year advertisers are not ignorant to this and the dollar value per listen has come down just has to be clear advertisers typically pay on a C. P.. M. Basis C._p._M.'s dance for cost per mil or cost per thousand in the early days podcasting the C._p._m.. For premium podcast might be something close to one hundred her dollars so even if the stock podcast was receiving a hundred dollar C._p._M.. Each episode would net me only sixty dollars per episode. That's not a whole lot of money but it's pretty meaningful oh for a podcast like Joe Rogan's which has millions of downloads episode overtime and with the mind-blowing growth in the number of podcasts. C._p._M.'s have come down a lot. It's my opinion that going going forward the bargaining power of customers I e advertisers will go down even further. There's just so many podcasts out there and they're just so many people who'd like to see some sort of income stream especially if it's just a hobby for for them. The fourth force is the potential for new entrance well. There's just so many podcasters out there and there are just so many people who'd like to see some sort of income stream especially if it's just a hobby for them so even the smallest Moose Niche podcast would probably say yes to call it. Twenty twenty five dollars see P._M.. Or even a ten dollar C._P._M.. So at least from my perspective the bargaining power of customers is super material bill and it's a huge headwind for anyone who wants to start a podcasting business anyway so moving onto puertas force which is the potential for new entrance well. It's probably not worth spending too much time time on this one because the answer is pretty clear podcasts of grown like wildfire partly because it's just so easy to start a podcast. There's a modest amount of skill and money that goes into starting equality podcast and in my opinion. Union the learning curve is pretty steep at least for someone who's as technically inept as me and someone who decides to do it all themselves like I have conversely if you think about a new entrant as a podcast or podcasting writing business that can hit the ground running so someone who can immediately turn their podcast into a going concern the barriers are really high and that has less to do the podcast itself and more to do with who you are as a person would mean by that is if you're some sort of celebrity or you have a huge social media following or you wrote a book that was really well received the odds are that your podcast at least initially will be a really great success but generally speaking the barriers to entry are really low so that's another porter pecker in the posterior of potential podcasters yeah. I'm trying to scare off the competition anyway. So the last of reporters five forces well that went is at least from me one of the few bright spots for both this podcast and podcast in general the fifth force is the threat of substitutes at a high level. I think think it's fair to say that podcasts are the substitution to radio and maybe even a print media Bluetooth is pretty much everywhere. It's in my truck my headphones. It's in my TV. I honestly can't even remember the last time I listened to a radio uh-huh station because my phone is almost always connected to something and it's almost always with me and what's the upside to tuning into your favorite F._M.. Channel Variety for a small monthly fee you can get variety from Pandora or spotify and without the commercials I know him kind of comparing apples to oranges here and podcasts aren't music but they are entertaining or educational sometimes both but the point is at their most certainly a substitute to traditional forms the media now for this podcast in particular and this goes back to what I previously said about corporate access being worth nine hundred million dollars to investment banks. I'm providing this for free. I am the substitute to investment vestment banks sure you don't get to ask the specific questions that management here's but that's something that I'm considering changing so that gets us to some of the changes that I'm thinking about for the podcast so first of all. It's important to tell you why I need to change things. The stock podcast has generated negative economic value for me personally and that's obviously unsustainable in the long run in total. I've spent more than thirty thousand dollars building and trying. We grow this podcast. I know that sounds like a huge number but excluding office equipment. which was you know roughly seven grand that includes the foam padding on these walls and here computers? I probably have one too many monitors is in but excluding the office equipment. The biggest expense buckets have been marketing Ed just over seven thousand dollars legal at forty five hundred sent yo at just over four thousand and transcriptions Eh roughly eleven hundred dollars on the opposite side of the ledger. Some of you have been very generous with your donations and I can't say thanks enough. It means so much to me. There have been eleven people who have contributed to the podcast two two hundred ninety bucks in two thousand eighteen and seven hundred seventy dollars in twenty nineteen but as you can see the contributions of fallen pretty far short of what is necessary thirty thousand minus one thousand is well. It's unsustainable. I'm not at all saying that the podcast is going to shut its doors next month or even next year. I'm committed to making this work because I enjoy providing you my listeners with this content and I truly truly want to succeed at doing something that has a positive impact for well everybody who listens and for investors in general but in order for me to do that I need to make money this has to be sustainable which means it has to create economic value for me and honestly I do not like the advertising model. I already described how C._P._M.'s or coming down so longer term. What does that mean for someone who would like to build a business podcasting business with advertising dollars well? I don't ever expect that this tug podcast is GonNa have millions of downloads like Joe Rogan's but I also truly believe that your time is valuable. Just as mine is I hate tracking down advertisers and honestly it hasn't worked out for me so far to be clear the sent your relationship has created absolutely zero income for the stock podcast and you might be surprised if you heard exactly how long it took me to kneel down that relationship up so far at least it was a huge waste of time for me and you know it's two minutes out of the podcast which is two minutes. You could be doing something else or listening to something else and I don't WanNa lose you over those two minutes especially when I'm not getting in anything out of it so if there's anything else incremental to the podcast that I could provide that would create value for you or or provide some service to you that you'd pay for that. You'd get a lot of value out of. I'd really like to hear it now now. If there's one really common theme that I've heard from friends who listen to this podcast it's the fact that I do not share my opinion on a particular company or stock or sector or my overall thoughts on the market circuit the reason why goes back to legal reasons. It's legally not permissible for me to give you advice unless I was R._I._A.. Or there was some sort of financial relationship so when it comes to the overall market or the individual companies that come onto the podcast. I can't tell you what my honest to goodness thoughts are about the investment idea or the investment story or flaws in the investment thesis. Is that something you'd be willing to pay for. Would you like to know what I currently own in my portfolio and just as an aside I do have an incubator fund which maybe I could share with everyone that is everyone would be willing to pay to see it. You could see my performance and you could receive real time alerts as to win on making trades trades when I'm buying what I'm selling. Would you pay for real time access to me personally to discuss investment ideas to hear what my top pixar or to hear my thoughts on volatility with a particular holding or if you're a high net worth individual and you'd like to invest along with me. Please reach out because for me the endgame isn't just as podcast and my hope is that I can spend a lot more time investing and a lot less time trying to find ways to make this podcast work as a business and light of all this. I'm going to create a premium service within the stock podcast but I need your help to figure out what it is. You'd be willing to pay for and if there's no additional service that you'd be willing to pay for then I <music> only asked that you sincerely consider donating to the podcast because it's honestly not an easy job and I don't say that for your pity. I'm just telling you the facts another very common theme that I've heard from. Listeners but also friends is that I should broaden my well. I guess you could call it. My coverage to include other sectors believe me when I say that I'm trying the most difficult thing about starting a corporate access podcast is getting access to the corporates the majority of the C._e._O.'s C._F._O.'s who were gracious enough to give me some of their time where people that I knew from my previous position at Janice trying to get the type of guests that this podcast has when they don't know who you are is super tough as doubly tough when it's high stakes and there's potential litigation involved so we're talking about senior management from public companies who are highly scrutinized by the S._e._C. before I left the by side. I wanted to make sure that I had at least a handful of management teams who would agreed future interview. There's one management team in particular that I really wanted to have on the podcast partly because they headed up one of the largest midstream mm-hmm companies in North America and partly because they had a really interesting investment story to tell but I was in front of these guys at a conference and I shared my plans and I said hey would you be interested in participating and the response was absolutely would love to get the story out there would love to help out were on board but after about two months in at least half a dozen emails I finally got a response plight response declining and interview. I was pretty upset upset. Actually I was really upset. Sometimes management teams will tell you what you want to hear just to keep you happy and just to keep you in the stock because you see at the time I worked for a Mutual Fund company that managed a just about four hundred billion in dollars and assets and I was the guy at the time who covered this company. I'm not saying that the industry is full of phonies. 'cause it's not there's amazing people that work in professional investing on the by side on the cell side and even management teams James and maybe there were specific reasons why this particular management team couldn't come onto the podcast but at the same time when you base Your Business Plan on the word of somebody else well. I guess this goes back to lessons learnt anyway. Even if you don't have an interest in some sort of additional service or help with your investment portfolio I asked the step back and just think about the value. You're getting from these interviews. If you do see some value please consider making donation when I say that every every penny helps I'm not kidding around but equally important if you could help me figure out how to best serve you whether that means creating some sort of forum where we can all talk about a particular idea or particular stock something similar to seeking Alpha. I personally got a lot of different ideas but it's one thing for me to propose something in pursue it waste my time and not see any sort of adoption and it's another thing to get your input your thoughts and what you'd be willing to pay for and so I really am asking you to step back and just think about what it is that you think would be helpful to you know one of the additional features that I'm quite certain will be available to premium members is the chance a to submit questions so as I said before one of the things I want to changes to give you the chance to ask the question and I think this is extremely helpful. In the context of how I'm trying to structure the the types of interviews going forward show over the past year plus we've had almost twenty interviews from public companies and for those companies to give those companies the chance to come onto the program for follow up interview in I've already had some success and securing some of those interviews pure cycles. 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FOF #2820  Billy Porters Grammy Fashion Explosion

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FOF #2820 Billy Porters Grammy Fashion Explosion

"Folks have been doing and offering over the fabulous queer fashion at the grammys from Little Nass XS fuchsia ver- Saatchi cowboy bondage. Get up to billy reporter's hat. The men on the red carpet brought the house down boots. But some are like in saying that. Queer man like billy porter or little. Nasdaq's are too thirsty for attention but isn't causing a commotion the whole point of walking walking the red carpet today comedian. Rachel Hall joins us to look at the wild fashion on the grammy's red carpet. Rachel just graduated from the Conservatory at Second. Kan City which has trained many of the world's funniest people plus aiming to boost diversity Mattel launches new Barbie dolls featuring vitiligo and hairless fearless models. How well Harry and Megan get on now that they're out of the family business? And what can the cuddle hormone oxytocin do for or you know mark billion and this is feast of fun Happy Birthday to my beautiful husband Mark feely and and I love you like that. I mean me you you you you you you you. Our guest today is the sheet. Larry's comedian Rachel Hall who just graduated from Second City here in Chicago as we go on from that conservatory the AW conservatory emphasis on the first syllable cons concert. Sorry Conservatory I did. I finally a year in some people that are familiar with the program. The conservatory is like a series of classes. You take to become Gilda radner basically On paper in theory so you could do characters. Now you can do stand up you can write. You can basically Improv. Yeah because there's take for Improv. I mean they have a writing program that goes through levels and takes forever directing programming and Blah Blah Blah. The same thing I went through the Improv Conservatory. Oh woah Oh lady danger take are we GONNA fuck fuck on why that's the best line of AJ in the queen put so actually say she says the head when they hear when they're in the hotel room with the hot Cuban man and he's all upset and jumping on the bed whatever and then she's like yeah this Ya now you can finally one I now second city for people not familiar is a very famous venue and school all for comedy here in Chicago that sort of gave the start the training for most of the best known comedians currently working in the United United States. Yeah Dead Alive. There's so many people that go through the training centers like covered in photos of just look at all these people you'll never be. They actually came from second city. They're the listeners. Might be curious to know. WHO's that the editor of the third season and on fourth of cooking with drag queens tie? Pasta got her start. Editing comedy videos Second City. That's why cookie directly is so much better. They with without are a lot of production working in industrial and making corporate corporate films and exactly and so they're basically ability to take mountains of garbage US and spin it into yeah is like yes. I have a little bit to do with it from like Kathryn. O'hare to the Belushi Farley. Billy never worry about Eighty Bryant Co Bear Tina fey amy poehler like everybody. Everybody goes through their Rude you repeat that there were some construction happening next door. How rude? Oh this is the magic of podcasting So let's get down to the nitty gritty. which is billy porter and little very conservative restricted outfits? I I mean very to the inauguration ball very classy very understanding where lizl stole the show with thorugh opening number. I'm so happy to open the show. I'm sad I missed it because I was at surge actually up to St Comedy Club or no is. It's a restaurant pool hall okay. You're you're hanging out in pool halls. Didn't your mother warn you about hanging out. No Oh I've been to a Pool Hall with my dad. So let's talk about billy reporters so these looks that these two gentlemen are sporting on the red carpet. uh-huh are getting a lot of anger and frustration from other game in big surprise on social media. Where they're saying like billy reporter and Little Nasdaq's are trying too hard or they're pitting one against the other people always have to fight first of all a little Mazda has been wearing basically that exact same tacky as too many buckles Brian Stones and stuff since he started a neon green suit with fringe? Wants how is is this not on brand because a lot of people are not familiar with either these gentlemen you know and part of it is like they don't really follow things until they and that's why these celebrities liberties put so much money and effort and energy into one red carpet. Look yeah they know it's going to get everybody talking about them and sometimes in show bizz an entertainment mm-hmm and it's just a numbers game. You want people talking about you. So they're aware of you so you get casting things you get opportunities you get marketing deals and so on. But that's what. The grammys are therefore like looking over all of the fashion fashion from the grammys. That's always how it's been though the grammy's is usually where you go. Oh and you're just you're not as ridiculous as you might be at the met gala. But it's like I didn't get invited to the met gala. I'm showing up in an egg. Mike that's what. The grammys are four so in terms of like award shows or events were celebrities dress outrageously yeah the number one is the Matt Gala Long. Yes of course. The Oscars new dressing like crazy crazy. craziest is gala gala is always. Why is ridiculous? It's always amazing. It's always on our right. Yeah the emphasis is on art. Then below that is so grammies the grammy's then below that is Then he's then he's got the adult films that's just show it with a clear skirt. I saw some video of at first I was like what in the white is. This event it because it was two white women of course they were and then one of them like took her paintings they were in like Dresses gowns and one of them took her panties off and the game him to the other girl. Because I guess the other girl was like my slits to hi my coops coming out. And she took her panties off and handed them to the other white woman opening again and she put them on girl. Thanks and then I found out later. It was like the adult film awards so I was like okay I guess but like who is trading draws. She borrowed somebody else's underwear and put it on and she yes. She had her friend or I took her draws house on some of these women doing some of these films. You wouldn't think some of the stuff that they do my always love. Billy Porter's looks folks and billy porter the yeah the men at the grammys but yeah no it'd be like garlic and then like the grammys and then it starts getting more subdued. Probably like the the kids choice awards. Because that's easy like Israel casual for no reason and then you get like Gold Award Golden Globe Oscars and like usually people try and be a little more or classes for the Oscars is established. You are a fashion icon and dress so billy puertas outfits usually always challenging people with Has Expectations of masculinity and femininity and definitely does a lot to obviously the ball scene of New York City also to drag culture in general. Neural and billy porter's mainstreaming. These looks by putting them in such a front and center. Focus on me. Yeah I think so so just before you jump in. Let me tell people so this his outfit. Was this kind by Scott Student Berg. His hat was custom made by so-called oh cold millenary and a mechanical engineering from smooth with two Zeros task then the whole look was put together with Stylus Sam Rotel the cost probably was more than what you make an year. Is this designer a drag on the first thing. I thought it was like. Oh man she says this is a drag out. This is what makes it in the air and this is without that fringe. Dad has dragged aesthetic. because it's like instant shade right. It's like draw the lines you're on my nerves. That was perfect. I if if me personally I was at the game we say for example if Taylor swift before me and I had that hat I wouldn't dramatically just close it so I wouldn't have to watch and you'll care if you keep the camera on me or not everyone can see This shade the Song World Click by delight. I don't think so. I'll let me play you guys a little bit of it It's samples a mechanical sound of a car window. Like if you're like so sophisticated that your limousine windows up and doubt. Dj Toa Towa Tae From D. light sampling a car electric window Gordon. It's Saturday it's sunny. I need to clean open the window so you can hear the house out. Do people do that up here. In the North we do that. We have people coming in areas where there's a a lot of dust and pollen that gets trapped in the house and the House I sa- brave so especially in the south of my like my mother lives in Austin Texas and the Cedar fever fever is raging right. Now yeah and calls me on the phone. And she's like I think. Global warming is responsible for the rise in average INS in in the south could very well be for sure. Yeah so I love how bill has just become you know he's such a fashion icon. And what I think is very interesting is to issue guys remember Manda Cohen. Who's been on this podcast? We nominated her to be on the reality TV show what not to wear and they said that she was one of the most top ten most difficult makeovers that they ever had. Oh and she actually went to school with billy porter. They were at the same university. They're in different schools but at the same university and she's like I would see him like walking across campus. I'd sit at parties and things like that and now they're both fashion icons of a different sort. That's Thurgood one for bad. What school did they go to the school adult? Tell me what to wear I. I don't see what was Matt Ability Puerto but like I think billy. There's like an expectation billy. In my opinion. This is his next big red carpet. He's just going to show up in a good Asu and everyone's GonNa be like it wasn't me like Leiden guy is amazing. Well that's the thing you know like the traditional man suit doesn't leave a lot of room for exploration and experimentation and I feel like there was there. Was this a guy who had a do rag at the grammys we had the turban gang and then the long part of the rap was was like a wedding being drafted in. Yeah which feels heavy. I feel like it my head would just be pulling but he is. His suit was but I did like the idea of the turban thing John Legend. I also like a really nice gray suit on but like half of it was longer almost looked like a suit jacket with a kilt. Attached to it was a train porter. Not Bill God the Creator. I didn't know Oh this but like he came dressed as a bellhop or whatever in a suitcase and in the suitcase was what he wore in his performance. I like this is exciting. That I'm noticing. Is that like in terms of you know. Two Black Gay men are leading the pack. Yeah but for just African American fashion for for this you know pop culture aesthetic of just saying you know what suits are fine signed but we want to really shine and so we're going to just bring it all now and it's really. I think it's very exciting. And and it's also SORTA showcases. This is an illustrates how far we have to go as gay men to try to embrace and understand that desire for attention that need for fashion Ashen and style and what those things mean for us and what role they have in our community and part of it is like when I read on social media like billy puertas trying too hard. I'm like like what is the what is it. You think Billy Puertas job is what what is it that you think why. Why would you expect them to dress a creative with eccentric outrageous man? I never understood the whole this person's trying to are you don't know them. That's probably for claim. You probably hard for them by them trying too hard. It's hard for them to recognize what's happening there too much. And it's a way of saying too much for me and this this with a lot of love and kindness and respect if you have a problem with billy porter way of looking or what he does. That's your problem. Not his this is going to wear whatever he wants to and laugh all the way to the bank. He has a strong fan base. He's getting the gigs. He's cashing cashing the checks. He's showing the people what they WANNA see. Yes and then. They're like overall like the men's fashion. There wasn't really was. Trevor Noah. Looked very nice. Whichever no always looks very Abby right he's so cute there's I'm looking at it now Oroville peck and he had the fringe mass thing on. I will say this OPEC was date. Oh okay dating kind of what he is. I will say that whoever this Orrville Reddin Bacher man is he's he's a country singer from Canada and he always wears that mask. Boy We have an idea of who actually is he for whatever reason he's doing like that whole thing kind of like I'm GONNA hide. My fate is ugly. I like that I didn't like but there was. I'm trying to find. Oh the guy with a turban was pod. Four thousand yeah. I don't know who to a lot. I spent a lot of time going. Who is that Harpo? Who is that woman? I don't know who these people are. I didn't know how old I had become. I don't know who ninety five percent of these people are but I'm trying to find him. There was one guy calot looked amazing. How like a red sue along with like a blue shirt? That was really nice but there was one guy up there is Sean Ross. Who Basically wore a trenchcoat a uh the underneath was like a turtleneck and then boots all covered in pearls like? This is something that you see. At the met gala that is a met gala suit Um as it also reminds me of like some type of disease. Thank yes it reminded me of you. He knows mall pox. cabbies put them in the back or they see that remind me of. I thought he looked amazing. But he's GonNa get overshadowed overshadow because no one knows who he is. But I think if you guys are listening to this and you want to see it you can go to the facebook group facebook dot com slash groups slash race the fund and you can see pictures of all. The outrageous red carpet. Looks may have a whole section called fashion off. The rails that celebrates The outrageous and wonderful things on fashioned. Yeah I feel like the guys were really going for fashion wise in every all the women were let me just be as classic as possible. Like Arianna gonave. Look like one of those barbies on top Barbie cakes. Yeah the big O.. Skirt even did she look like a Barbie cake. Kids Indiana barbeque which we actually made one on cooking with drag Queens with James Mansfield Cake Nice Mark was the beauty and the beast in. Oh ooh I like all the stuff. I think it's exciting. You definitely want US talking about it and they got it. Ah on the on the other hand. There's like these weird This this Mexican American woman and this gay guy who used to have a music career both of them and and in the waning and the struggle an entertainment show business a roller coaster. And when you're down that bottom of the roller coaster it's stressful if Fox with your head and you sometimes snap. And they're both of these guys are become right wing people criticizing your reason the word fascist but for describing trump. But I'm like you know. Go pick up an encyclopedia dictionary and banned in like two years reviewed reviewed fascist citizen that you know describes trump to me so one guy he wrote impeach this on on his ass and his head his ass out he had his ass out. You WanNa address and you know I call it fascist fashion because of the show. Oh He's the one with the WHO that's not a bad ass. I gotTa tell who is he. He's the one that came with the red. He used to be for Britney Brittany Spears Ashley on tour and he used to be kind of West Hollywood music personality and now he's snapped and got become a right wing trump supporter. I mean you gotTa do what you gotTa do for attention at joy. Villa She she wears the skirt that has an aborted fetus on it last year. She did that to first of all I will give inviting them. I will personally between us and anyone who can sing a joy views on often often in the idea exactly barely know who she is except that she shows up at the grammys trump outfits. I would like to know who invite people to the wall. Some right winger is paying gene for these people because obviously it's expensive to go to the grammy's if you're not invited or can you buy it. You buy a ticket to the grammys but you just sit in the back. which is assuming where she is and it's not like they addressed Lewis expensive? Because I'm pretty sure she made a Joanne's the night before so it's just a bunch of sequin right so I'm like who's fans from Queens wins dot com sequence or sequences. sequin Queens looks like you wish. Wish fish and she had that little that feather quill at our hair and she. You made that herself. Nobody invited her. She made it herself and she's star. Who is she? Who are the Harpo who who is it? I don't know who she is like. They're doing this to try to show that not. All Americans are rejecting this difficult challenging racist. It's even like it's interesting if they go out and say trump is racist. There's going to be people on social media like you need to save that comment for the extreme streaming like he's literally aligning himself with the clan. So sure what you mean. If he's not racist who is said. He was raised to my brother. My I probably like Charles. Donald Trump certainly is not racist. And I was just like what the world do you live in. You don't think Donald Trump is racist. But it's an interesting idea that the idea uh of accusing someone as racist is like they have a problem with that. And they're right now. They're you know white fragility is what is they can in hand but actual racism. They don't have any problem with because ruined. Ripe People. Hear the word racist they when you call someone races. I don't understand how it works. They I think the word is the same thing as the N. word they're like. How dare you call me? I am never been that in. My life moves looking looking and they think the word races is the exact same thing as the word nigger they do not because they're so because they they have such a strong belief that they're good person that calling them anything other than God's reflection is it is calling them nigger is the worst thing on earth and it's like he is not is not the same thing you know is not the same thing but you choose to be so goddamn offended other besides are instead of learn from the thing. What what a person who says things like that thinks racism? Racism is they I have they don't get lynching they think is people getting dragged behind cars. They think is people. They think it's the lunch counter. Think they probably don't even think the lunch counter thing. was that big of a deal but they think that's what it is. I have to. I literally have to have a clan uniform in my backseat and sleep. Sleep in a hood and on Tuesdays is. That's what they think it is. It's not all it's not about equal opportunities. It's not about job hiring about placement in school or any of those kinds of rights because they didn't grow up around it and they think oh well my grandma's an amazing person. She would never like push a a picnic with all the rest of my wife friends. They just cannot fathom that someone that they know or them themselves could be anything less than the reflection of God and the thing about it is to like you know if you dig apply the definition of fascism for example. It says a Governmental System led by a dictator having complete power. Suppressing opposition and criticism regimenting all industry commerce an emphasizing and aggressive nationalism and racism that to me. Sounds like trump i. I don't know why you would think that that doesn't describe. I believe well. That's because there's also the whole thing like always way to make an excuse for something that you like someone else does it. So it's like if I'm sitting in for a friend is asshole newsletter. He's not he's not this. It's like we can disagree. I can think that asshole That's fine but but it's like everyone wants to make an excuse for its constantly making excuse because if they can make an excuse for then therefore they're not an asshole because I've always said you are who you hang out with you hang out with a bunch of dicks chances are you're too so if you love trump in every once in their going trump is racist. Then they're thinking because trump is racist therefore I must be and they are like I just can't fast so he's not racist he's just protecting everyone he's not this he's just you know how Americans are looking out for America. I like you can understand that you can like someone but also understand. Stand that some of the things that they do are fucking terrible. I Love Robert Deniro. I absolutely do but I'm not going to sit here and say that man is funny because he's not. Ah People need to learn how to be subjective. Because that's your brother doesn't mean your brother. Is it a sexual like this because your dad bad I was her name Ivana. Discuss your daddy doesn't mean your daddy is not a rapist or sexual like come on their things. Thank things can be more than one thing and people was especially like right now. People having a hard time with with the passing of of Kobe Bryant because he was a great great basketball player he did a lot of great things in his life but then there was this idea of you know that he sexually assaulted a person right. And that's I understand. Understand that you can grapple with that. And it's like how do I because he did. He's like nineteen when that happened or something it's like. How can you care just like but you still can't care? Ah in the day you can dislike Kogi one at the end of the day. Vanessa Lhasa husband and a daughter. There's two children who don't have older sister and in both their parents anymore completely there are families have been wiped out now So you can have your like. I disagree with Kobe Blah Blah Blah. That's why well my facebook. The other day I say America really is to have a conversation about redemption and rehabilitation. Because I get it I feel told me it was redeemed and I think some people have done that and then a lot of people haven't because at the end of the day none of us really know what happened. Kobe will always always said he never raped that girl and he did fence up to like. Maybe there was some sort of sexual assault because they were both out of whatever but he was acknowledged that there's something to be said about acknowledging your mistakes and then literally growing and trying to defy them the difference between like that and the trump is trump. They will never admit that he had an a steak right. He'll never admit that I'm curious to hear what the listeners and Rachel have to say about Allison Morris she's the MSNBC newscaster who was caught off guard to some degree on the here in the tragic nick news of Kobe Bryant passing and on the air. She claims she stuttered combining the name of the Knicks and the Lakers to say nay occurs when she was a K.. Very I heard a hard g when she's hard. Jj I said let's listen to this right now. Maybe we sensitive ears skip. He's already said the word twice. A white woman was perfect. We cast the Los Angeles niggers. Los Angeles Lakers convenient if I could ask you to stay with us. And Her career descended. The courageous started. No she just she got fired. Okay and Fox News is going to pick her up Fox. News Fox News collects white women with blonde hair. She's he's next Menagerie. That is Fox News. It could be an what we call an audio illusion an optical illusions but when you see something that isn't there because your eyes are playing tricks did then and the errs sounds right. She she paused. Yeah Yeah I get it because I stumble over words all the time all right Rachel even for people who do not care about basketball. You know that Koby Bryant plays as for the Lakers. The New York Knicks. What do they have to do with the Knicks? Weren't even playing the Lakers that night so oh I don't know what's going on you know in terms of a broadcast news room. It's stressful. It's getting things thrown at you the last minute you know. I've spoken to millions of people in this podcast for fifteen years. I've never combined words like that. To my knowledge. She said some stuff that was weird and I was just like that. That sounded weird. Like let's let's re record that or something like that right now but when you're doing it live is always you know the other thing too is like there's a six second allow now all that shit and it's kind of just like you know I don't know if you could do so if you could change something like that or sometimes the call isn't made six seconds is a lot of time for the human brain to process what's going on but also here's the thing because I do live every Wednesday from the factory factory Chicago instagram page. And I say loss of stupid Shit I say so much dumb shit that said I recognize immediately when I say something dumb she could very easily fucked up and I've there was not an kept going. doesn't know what wait until afterwards and someone was like girl while you hear the show you lose and then she goes I guarantee you. She said it man didn't think about it and someone was like you know you just said nigger on TV and issues like what. Now I have to come up with some bullshit. Excuse if you when you recognize you say something stupid you immediately. Let's say I'm sorry I didn't mean to do that. And you know but the fact that she didn't want to disavow it like immediately as college. She run on twitter that she who says I unfortunately stuttered on air combining the name. That wasn't a steady girl. So please no I did not and it would never use a racist term apologize for the confusion this caused it. It didn't cause confusion. I heard I hope he was saving money. I hope you real estate or something somewhere or again Dan. She probably got drafted to Fox News. And that's the thing about it is is like she. You're saying that it hasn't cost or anything. I should probably get a GIG someplace else. Frying part of the injustice. That we see you know to me. I'm like I don't really think that much about this issue and almost didn't bring it up just because they're are so much overt racism in the White House that doesn't get talked about are acknowledged. I don't understand why people feel like they can't say something to that man. If I got invited to the White House yeah you don't care if you don't want to go put my near my face. Well it's like with Artha Kenny Kirk. Ah recorded its ha you hear about the story. Of Arthur Kit. Being invited by Ladybird Johnson S and there are trying to talk about beautify America and earth kits when the microphone was turned her she said the youth of this country feel like their lives are not worth a damn you want to beautify America and the war in Vietnam Straight and. She's just like speaking her mind. She went home her managers. What did you just do? And she was banned I and and then she moved from platforming blacklisted artha listed in the United States for over a decade and she had to move overseas for because of that. But it's like I don't understand why people are so. I'm so afraid to say something in front of the camera again because of the consequences on the history history of of the way Africa. Do you WANNA move to Paris France. Yes actually we should end all wars committee. That's the thing in the world. We live in now that people say that things are getting better. But it's like you know for for an actor or performer. To speak out against the war in the nineteen seventies meant. They had to move overseas now. People can expect you to the. Yeah I feel like the only the only people who do that or say something are actors at award shows because awards show and they know millions of people are watching. I think there's too many people who care on camera because they need to like any to share. And that's fine if you're gonNA care on camera if you get the right avenue then you say exactly what it is I will. I'll say there's Yano again. Robert Deniro will say anything he will flat out say he hasn't said I desperately want someone to be on camera hammer with trump. And just be like. Why are you such a bitch like I really desperately want that to happen? Why I think a lot of people are afraid of what the repercussions if something like? That might be what are they well. He's got approval rating of about thirty percent of something. Those thirty percents. The people are just terrible people and you just never know what kind of most of those people are are keyboard. Keyboards do shit. In front of view there was a recent poll asking people who answer their phones which swing to be conservative. Should trump be impeached. The forty nine percent of those people in that poll said no and at this point. I'm kind of like what's IT GONNA take. Well he's the trial is an don't do shit whatever this like. What does it take? But it's what it takes is what it takes is a virus to knock out everybody government. I mean just kill them all. Don't kill them all but they all need to be fired. They all need to be fired. They all the fact that I get it you can you. This is a whole power struggle and whatever but people we can realize that these senators are more scared of the people who voted for them than anything else and they're so desperate to hold onto some sort of power for themselves People don't realize that they don't give a shit about you or what your opinions are. They consider up here. And do all these these speeches about what's good and I believe in this and I believe in that. But it's like he no you don't let's move on talking about the Barbie dolls. Not Barbie has made news in the recent years by bringing out some barbies of all shapes and sizes and in colors and flavors the thick and juicy ones the short and the tall skinny ones and I mean the tall skinny ones have always been around now all different shapes and shades hair textures colors nationalities and most. Recently they making the news again. Really saying till vivid go. I hi go on. Sorry about that and hairless models and malls with amputated legs and wheelchairs. Sorry it just looks like far enough week and it's like it looks like Barbie's been through some shit. Looks like Barbie rb. Mattel does needed a way to charge you extra five dollars four Barbie mark and I went to like toy stores to try to even even just like the thick and juicy Barbie's ever seen those and they're nowhere to be found like you go to stores it's justice is just business as usual is your specialized stores got him. I for real for real because I have two nieces and they never played well. I didn't know never no I never. I didn't know people still play with dolls. I thought Barbie went out of business when when when Toys R. US Day I'm we played with dolls. My sisters played with dolls and so I played with dolls spikes. Yeah and I have a Fr- we we're GONNA get this. He was always get two thousand Barbie dolls. He's ovine Barbie dolls. I used to by the I love Lucy Collector Barbie dolls because I'm obsessed with Lucille Ball. Do so have them. I still do there in my trunk in my closet. Oh are they in the package still. Yes absolutely I never took them out. You didn't try and hide her in the Conga drum no shared in it. Yeah so we've done quite a few shows was about Barbie dolls. John Zondi Zanardi. He has over a thousand barbies and his home. He's been collecting since the age each of eighteen. I would never sleep there. you know has has lot of Barbie dolls to a hard time. Getting a boyfriend was was when we came over. He was like you have this many Barbie dolls and they would just like walk out of the apartment and never got forty year old virgin all those action figures and they. He's trying to get a date and they were like we. You have to get all this shit out and they cleared it out and there was just like a chair. So if you want to listen to John's podcast. About the thousand barbies you can subscribe subscribe on Patriots on fees to fund dot com slash Patriot or become a plus member and listen to so many other podcasts including with comedian Jeffrey Jay. Talking about where no Barbie has gone before. Is he like trying to get a world record for barbies. Yeah he just likes always bought them. I think he also views it at this point in time is part of his retirement package. Because you know he's like fifty something years old now and he's had been collecting barbies for thirty some years. Okay so let me give you an idea. So like when when Disney absurd Disney bar. Mattel I'm figuring Trixie Mattel Mattel the corporation ratio. The Tory Corporation was struggling with Barbie dolls in the late eighties and they were like where are the young hip people hang out there. Hanging out at raves saves so they went to these raves and which were mostly run and visit by gay men and in that time period even lesbians were wearing cock rings as decorations creations so they came out with adult called earring magic. Ken Who clearly has a cock ring in the middle of his neck. There's has a Nicholas Kok. Well exactly. Where's he gonNa put it and like me and my friends? We bought it and we loved it but at the same time time it caused quite a commotion and they pulled it off. The shelves to this date is the number one bestselling Barbie doll in history. So I'm assuming with a thousand Barbara. He has like the ones that are like rare to finding like collective he has all kinds of Barbie. Yeah from from even the was it Julia. WHO's the African American actress? From Dynasty Diane Carol Diane Carroll Barbie Doll from all kinds of rare ones there he is. He's photograph with the Diane Carroll Barbie Doll Lang's who over the course of time. Her black hair turned red. Thing happened to me who she looks like a Rupaul and AJ in the Queen's to happen and so you know in terms of like the Barbie dolls part of it is that version that the idea of of creating diversity is also really good moneymaker because people are going to want to get. The you know amputated leg Barbie Wheelchair Barbie or you know the chemotherapy therapy Barbie feel like that which I get it. That's fine but I feel like in order for that to really be popular parents needed by the Barbie. That does it look like their kid. Because I feel like the people like my daughter has amputee slushy Muslim Barbie. That looks like her which is fine. I get that same thing with my I am black my black daughter Barbie. That is black with like natural hair. But I do feel like like maybe like the white people need to buy the African American Barbie for their white white ash child to help them with this whole you WanNa Black Barbie as the help now I want to play with great. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA you're GonNa get this so you can stop being such an asshole who the ones that have. You know what I mean. I you know that's not a bad idea. Yeah but at the same time a lot of money for Mattel when parents think that buying stuff is a way to addressing the rotten children's behavior. That's true do you know. Shopping is never the solution. People want representation in their toys. So yeah toilets can be wiped out but you know what's a good solution is our T. shirt store at face the phone dot com slash store. When you love the podcast and you want to see us make more shows go to face the FOAM DOT COM store? Get yourself not. Shaving gives is be more time for misbehaving t-shirt available in all sizes even for babies when the extra small right We don't have a baby cyrus but for people who are young at heart off through three axes the ones that we see at home but you can also get different sizes and colors. I'M FOR RED BUBBLE STORES WELL ON RED bubbles bubbles. So are you a fan of the royals. Do pay attention to prince. Harry Harry and Meghan Markle. I've kind of been keeping my eye on them. I don't necessarily care about the royals because I'm not from England But they're like popstars. This aren't thing are are they. Well you're they are aware of them but you're not like Oh my God when he who obsess over and so I think for a lot of gay people that are like we love our queens first of all right but then of course you know. Princess Diana was very front and forward in the fight against AIDS and she. She loved her gay fashion designers and so we have an affinity for her and her kids. I think yeah I mean I pay attention to Megan and Harry the other one kate. Kate Middleton and they're about as interesting as a pan of salt denied care about those goes to Bahrain. Ask people yeah. Participate reminds me of somebody. You have it as a neighbor who just like. Oh She's Nice but you know I'm basically I think she's a duchess. Ah Yes she reminds she seems like someone who will fight you over like hey girls from having a party at my house and then you get over there and all she does backhand compliment everybody. Nobody was like shut. The fuck up like a backhand backhanded compliment. That looks so cute. For you. Glance backhanded insult. dooming yeah whatever yeah. She seems Megan Bald and looks like a backhand circumcise pain is oh so cute when he was younger. But you know that Prince Charles caught up with him. A backhanded compliment would be me trying to insult you you by saying you're smart in our nearly as an insole and you're like yeah that's a good thing that's kind of compliment com- compliments. I was just like Oh that looks really nice. It fits you stuck Louis bad insult. Yeah and it's always. You're you're insulting somebody by complementing them but when you the other way is that when you in assault somebody and you're giving them a compliment like like when you say. Look so nice when you try a good for your age yet bitch. The cherian an Megan and they're they're they're calling it right. Yeah we question is what are these to. We're GONNA do for money. Listen I think she just wanted to go back to suits which. I don't think anybody watches that show as either I get it. I understand like believing because the Paparazzi in England is vicious and they kill Diana. They killed his mom so I can understand that. He's not GonNa get on on the crown on the throne unless a whole slew of people die. So why does he need to be there. It's not like the market has power is. Let's let's let's clarify something just because you've not. The head of the monarchs key does not meaner American and make money from it and there's a lot of people and like you know they. They're they're taking that away. They're like we don't need anymore. So what is he going to do for a real job. I worked for news. I have no idea while the idea is like I want you. You know they're probably thinking that they're going to get a book deal right Harry. We'll get oh they're going to and so there's a minimum fifteen million probably something for that look beyond that going to work for different charities. So they're going to be getting a paycheck from that. Should you think she back to acting. She wants to go back to TV. Show uh-huh that's not even on the air anymore is only on the air for like two seasons. Anyway I never even. I don't even think I even knew anything about hitch. No that popout. No British people to their excuse. There's things that British society is to racist and is not accepting thing of their relationship or of Megan. Yeah they weren't accepting of Meghan Hughes American more than anything and then yeah the with the popularizing. It's in everything they're doing backhanded compliments but also being racist about it. They're like oh we're not race it just like there's a lot of articles out there like this is how the the press handled you know Prince William's wife right. This is how they've handled Megan and like the difference is amazing. Everything that Megan's done is like a discount. They say it's tacky say it's terrible and if Kate Middleton and done the same the thing that just like is this wonderful. She's so expressive and she does this right. He's like that so it's a much different world and I think Meghan never had any attention being glorified fired wife. That's what Kate does it do things like what is she. Smart does not even voice. Sounds like why I think she went to college college right if she went to college to meet him How long degree? She went to school to meet him. Well we did a podcast about how to marry a millionaire with Justin Jessica the Human Kendall and he said it's really difficult to actually meet a millionaire because they're not going to be on social media uh-huh they're hard to get a hold of and their personal assistants usually stop in your tracks the walk around looking like thought so. Yeah so if you WANNA meet a wealthy a person you have to go to colleges with them or go on vacations where they hang out. So you're at the bar and in Monaco Monaco NOCCO Monaco some expensive fancy hotel or crews or whatever our beach resort. That's where you're GONNA meet. Those just seems like too much work. You've got to go into debt to find somebody. Well you think that go now. Her parents were rich because they party stores. Yeah her parents were rich hearty stores. She's from party. City Party city eras. Yeah she let me also you know. They probably paid their way to college. Like you know you do. But it's not like like she's had a I like the idea that she's a fight with someone and they could just yell at her. Go back to party city but vanity fair vanity. Talking about what they're gonNA do. They think that they might do some kind of Netflix deal. I don't think we're GONNA go. What else are they gonNA do? Well one thing been noticing with some of these girls on social media their Their some of their fans are just the most rotten people but part of it is like LGBTQ celebrities when you're in that reality TV shows space and you're interacting with public a lot like they do these meet and greets and club invents it almost like an open door to invite abuse for somebody. And you're in most reasonable people. We're going to block them on social media media if someone's coming after most people don't but the alive these queens they kinda. There's a set of masochistic relationship with and they these people who who are out to troll or fuck with them they just think of the most heartful meanest thing they can do and they go after them and then they pretend like they're paying paying their bills they're like I donate a lot of money to your kickstarter. I bought all your merchant. I went to see your show the Mike those people are not going to be buying any other stuff. Just block them. I don't I that's one thing I'll never understand these people who have keyboard courage and they get online or they troll people. Do you just not have anything to do. Are you at the library all day. Because you can't afford to go anywhere else to sit on the computer and Talk Shit like why do you give too hot dams again. I Love Robert Deniro. RAZZOO's on Robert. He likes black women having have a chance. But he's like the only celebrity that I give a fuck about give. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not. I'm telling you right now. I'm not GonNa try to our right. He's five eight and he's getting shorter order. 'cause he's old but he's I'm not going to TRIBECA grill to find out if he's there you know what I mean. There's there's plenty of celebrities that I do really enjoy. I I think like I admire out. Give to fucking Fox. What they did on Tuesday? And so these people who troll people. And they're like I made you. I did this get a life. Find anything to do. Learn a new board game play. Dnd Go outside. Mo- Alon John Do something else because you truly festival starting revolution yeah. I can't believe that you truly give two shits about. What little little GNAWS EX did yesterday you had to stay up all night and go there every single page online and talk shit about them? When I'm pretty sure you need go to the store? Get some more toilet paper. Just do that. Who Cares and the people who read it like the celebrities who read it and they obsess over it and I do do not understand? I don't get it I I had one trump I had one one tweet. I said something about trump. And all these Maga- people try to jump on me and I was just like I don't care I didn't even know until two days later that was put in like twitter jail. Oh you are yeah house like oh I was. I didn't know because I wasn't really offers. Executioners no it was like those tornadoes was in Dallas and he was just in Dallas and I had tweeted like wherever trump goes trouble happens and then like Hashtag Tornado tag Maga- and all these people are like. Oh now trump the reason for tornadoes and Blah Blah Blah. And that's clearly the only one I read because I didn't care enough to have notifications on anything I don't care I hate notifications. I I don't like the little number popping up in the screen. I don't like seeing call you if I see something online that you don't I don't care. Let's talk about the married French. Gay couple that invited a nineteen year old over for some socializing and keep paying for little SLURP SLURP slurp yes and then the teenager caught. He's a supposedly cotton sti from them and then he says I've got an ass from you saw so Give me five thousand dollars just like. Doesn't that cost fifty dollars. Go you get it fixed. But I guess he for whatever reason he thought it was you know the burden kind of getting this sti that they should pay for it and so there's just like no and he's just like give me money give me money and so they want they they just knocked on the door. Somebody knocked on the door and four masked men wearing gloves teargassed these guys and asking for the money and then finally these guys are just like. Let's call the police on this guy able are so entitled and so right now there's a manhunt That's not that's not the APP but the police these are actually searching called Manda underway to find the participants in this hellish. That was the hook up before all the grinder riders in the sky. And the boy is on your computer boy the cookie grinder scruff snapchat Beijing See Planet Romeo Christian mingle in Brazil and in different parts of the world. Delisted was one the before the was the blog there was the dating APP that was elevated list dot com on the computer not anap. Yes all right. These are people before computers. And so- manhunts just eventually I think they bought like Hornet because they were. We can't compete because nobody's on my keyboard anymore except people over the age of fifty and so it was just like it was just all old man before these before there was an app market or smartphones phones. A lot of these dating APPs sorry took place on websites. I know it sounds ridiculous to say that but for some people because they're born in the two thousand yeah yeah. I don't even remember people flirting with each other on my space. You know and people are like well. facebook go wait. I'm like you know right now. Two of the top four Democratic presidential candidates say they're going to split up the tech companies if they get elected Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth. Warren I think probably Elizabeth Warren go a little softer. But you know it's going to be that's why you can't really trust anything you see on social media because these social media companies are trying to keep those candidates from becoming president. I don't know how anyone trust anything that they see on the Internet it came from the Internet can trust us here fees to find. Yeah why should we trust you because we've been doing this for six sixteen. We're just talking. We're not sitting here going. I'm a medical expert who graduated at the top of my class so when I say that there's nothing wrong with coming in your I. I mean it's healthy like Ooh just because you've been around a long time. Does that make you trustworthy. I think what it is is that people interact with us us. And we're having a conversation about these things and we're not like hiding behind some corporate firewall. Whatever you guys know who we? Are you know what we stand Dan for. We've been having conversation with you guys for quite some time and I think in terms of what the Internet is about like you know. I saw this one article on on a gay blog again news blog. That was talking about. How Great Pete Booty Judge would be for president of the United States? Eight and I was just kind of laughing because I was like it was not presented as a as an opinion piece it was presented as news. Ah Opinion Pieces News. And that's bizarre to me but people getting on the Internet and there's like a box that POPs up and they say do you WanNa turn off your commonsense and then they go yes and then they go is okay. There's cookies on this site. And then they go that's fine. And then they dive in and they share the dumbest fucking Shit when they should just be able to use their comprehension Hinson skills and go. This is just. This is an opinion and it's dumb but the primaries I think and we have to step back a little bit and remember that one when you're sharing things on social media sometimes you're like half asleep on your phone in your bed and you're kind of almost an unconscious state of mind. Yeah and so. You've got to be really careful. Careful am I really speaking from my heart from my from my conscious mind or am I just like the cranky unconscious like fuck this person you know wearing articles from two thousand and nine. They just happened yesterday. get this off and and you know I would say the top four candidates which is Biden Biden Warren Bernie Sanders and Budi. Judge are to me. It's like I wouldn't be complaining of either. Any of them would be president. I WANNA I don't know who these people are. That are I have never in my life old man. You don't know old black people who go to church a lot take about it. I guess because I always hear this and I'm like who. Who are these people like it? Somebody's like somebody somewhere That's true well. It's one person with Amy Cloven Shirt Obama and it's kind of like he's still basking in the sunshine of Obama. But I I wish he would stop saying Obama's name every other Senate we get it you know him one. Ah Shut like most people are dislike if there was ever a fistfight between presidents. I want to see Biden. Kick the shit out of trump. I think people I want to see a literal fight with Joe Biden. And that's why he's a weapon. No not just those guns on known as biceps that's why he's always challenging people to a push ups and getting all confrontation on the. Is You know Rand Paul. I hope I'm in good shape and have as much Tehran my head through the course of hair plugs. When I'm Joe Biden's age so you can buy it just like he bought them ten thousand dollars? Ten grand go to Mexico Aksu. It's cheaper you gotTa Start Saving now. Can you do like a hair transplants of vacation. I'm sure you can't corral do that. Between season season two and season three of the office remember he was going bald. You could see it in season one of the office. It was a little thin there and then all of a sudden next season it was like look. Look how thick luxurious deep corrales hair has. I'm just scared of going to Mexico to get hair transplant. Says I'll wind up looking like Marinette. Let's go to the flea market. Our kids are GonNA get Turkey Motel actually says. She models her makeup their idea. She got from a Mexican flea market marionette now because they they just look really freaking weird. Like the puppets and Sound of music and the lonely goatherd. Yeah does that pop picture in your. Yeah that is folly across the room and it's like I just don't worry about I want somebody has a little bit aesthetics. They also say that. There's a limit to how much hair you can pull from the back of your head to the front because then you go in the back. Don't they have like soy grow back just real. You just relocating its evily across your head. You know I thought they dislike put pieces of hair and I just you know barring Barbie doll with the ball to make myself feel better I mean I know I know with black guys. There's like these as a unit things that they see and honestly the most fascinating videos you've ever seen in your life if you dislike go to Google and it'd be like black men units I whatever where it's like save. They're already like balding in the middle. Whatever they literally shave all of it off and they draw where their headline is and they'll get like that cheap marley hair people break the four dollar pack loose hair and then they glue they like create like a harp of glue on their head and they like glue that down and then they pick that out at and they like you know cut it like normal in it? Looks fucking real. Look I've watched those videos so it's fascinating Canadian haircut like a lot of the guys have especially yeah guys. It's super short on the sides and then they have this very long like mop top on Todd James Dean that kind of like that often too is just like that's a carpet. Yeah so that's you know that's been glued on top of the head and I gotta to say a lot of times. It looks just most of the time. It looks amazing. And you can't even tell and I'm just kind of my little thing. Maybe I should shave it one of those things. Thank you have a good. No don't do that. The thing is it's like you can't you almost have to wait to the point where you still have like enough hair on your own and then go do it. Because it's weird that everyone's been seeing you bald for all these years and then you just show up just luxury. I have discovered that hair. Harry Potter is a wonderful thing. I watched a video on facebook. An older welby. She's like what an older woman needs to know about makeup. And she's just like she's like during her makeup and the hair powder is wonderful and she's like power putting the powder just whatever I'm just like. Oh all that and and I was just like wow this really does work. Yeah tollackson toast before we start wrote Rachel Rachel Hall. That's me now. She's a star second city soon to be on television one day. I have a teaser. A commercial out. You do Cheez it crackers on television. Jesus commercial cheese it snaps. What are you in the ad on youtube eating eating cheese? It's designed you to. I'm sure you can find it on Youtube. But if you WANNA like looking for that ad on I spot dot TV which is like this thing thing where they just hold all the commercials and you look it up but it's on. I finally saw it in the wild the other day when I was watching something on Hulu kitching to accommodate if it awesome getting commercial on the program the other day I was like what's real. How does that work? Do they send you checks every time it airs. Get One okay contract our schedules if they knew that particular because it normally is this commercial is going to run for six months or here ear. And here's all the venues and then these are like one big price for it at all. When you went to the audition? Did they make you eat a lot of crackers they did. I honestly do not think I was going to get it and I kind of I don't WanNa say it didn't want it because I want every job audition for but during that audition that was right before I went back to Dallas to teach at the thespians convention engine. So like the day of the audition. The Lesbian Convention as Thespian Convention. I wasn't that audition and I remember kind of like just you know how sometimes you just don't feel like doing something so I was kind of like a blue day and so I went in and they wanted. They wanted everyone to like like wildly. These cheeses like like monster like cookie monster like throw them in the air like just fucking lose your mind over. How wonderful tease? It's our and I remember. I went into the audition in our like. I want to do that. I don't like cheeses that much because there were people jumping on tables. Apparently the girl in the lead the to lead need women who we all have the same agent. They got it because in the audition their their friends one of them was eating. It and the other one was spinning into the mouth. Like a baby bird. They were Ooh Cup. But with your mouth and that's what two Girls One cup is their booty the car. She vomited in term Now she has her mouth. They did a two girls one cup with cheeses. I never saw that video. I don't want to see that video. That's how they go. Mom wanted everything but I knew that the callback was gonna be the same day. I was flying out so I went to the original edition. They're not gonNA call me in because I'm not going to be here whatever and then I got called back and I was like why I'm leaving that day so like my flight was at like two something mm-hmm to and then they try to give me a call back and I was like at three and I was like well I'm not going and then my agent asked they were like. was there another time that you can come and I was like if I go but I have to leave by twelve thirty and so I got there and I was like again. They're not going to want to do this. Because the filming is technically right right when I come back so I won't be here for fittings or anything like that and then they still cast me anyway so I was like. Oh they cast the two girls. One Cup is has three girls one box crackers. So they're like the two I guess quote unquote like lead one of them is like the tester and someone else's like she's the one that starts the chaos that in once John on some cheeses. Luckily you can't see me too well like I. There's multiple versions the commercial and they're coming out like staggered so I don't the ones that are out right now. It doesn't seem as crazy as it got because there were. Because you're a star baby. You should be the I senator filming that commercial when once we got to the okay. You guys were about to destroy. Jesus there were cheeses everywhere cheeses inhalers cheeses bras cheese. It's like there was a moment where chuck they're also performing seconds and he was was like on the table doing flashdance why everyone porch. He's like it was ever walked in that day and they go you guys are never going to want to eat. Cheetah's again and we were like. Oh no big baggy. There were so many Hallett of like a six foot tall Palette of chief. It's that I'm pretty sure we went through. Fees to fund is made possible not because of cheeses because a fabulous fierce people. Just like you but it's fun. It was it was. It was a fun time out. 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February 17  Hour 2  Jokic Amazes in Boston, as Nuggets Fall Flat | Broncos 1st Rd. Draft History

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February 17 Hour 2 Jokic Amazes in Boston, as Nuggets Fall Flat | Broncos 1st Rd. Draft History

"How can it be frustrating watching as our vote told us the other day the most popular athlete in pro sports in the state of colorado shine nightly basis. How can how can watching or colfax listening to this. Be frustrating for us to get some scoring good pump fake throws at yokich for three. That's take that full. His eighteenth point here the first active yokich kinda tried again turned shots go. Oh my the oh kitsch long-range again. That's good and under the yoke at your puts a bed for his third point coverage their course. Courtesy of altitude. There's chris marlowe on the call. Joker finished with forty three points. Five assists six rebounds. Two steals plus minus. I had a plus two as frustrating. Because you look around. Murray had twenty five twenty five. I'm always talking about those other stats though colfax. Well he had nine turnovers and point guard. I mean he. He murray was engaged scoring-wise last night which i liked to see if they could get him there. This is the thing. This is what i'm talking about on a daily basis on this show. I want to be right about murray. I said it. I see it. Last night i saw other than the turnovers murray was in that strike now mode you know. He made some headlines last week when he said we're tired of trying just to survive. It's time for us to punch or punch first time. I strike first. Okay like that. Murray's got to bring that mentality hit six boards and six assists in stills. So i mean take away the nine turnovers and i'm talking. Wow that's the helping needs. But for every good thing he'd do he'd have a couple of turnovers and roller pretty costly now. This isn't about me. murray was the second guy. where was everybody else now. Faulk who composite. I don't care who you are always since like. i'm just cussing I don't care if you that dumping is fun to watch. I tweeted that before. And you guys come at me. Oh he's fun to watch people blow by all the time. Can you guys realize. Let me say he's rocky. He rook he played overseas. He's an older type rookie but he's an nba rookie. The nba is much different than the way they play over where he was no question about it and he even said he wanted to thank his teammates for being patient with them as he's adjusting to this style of it is it's a different style here. He had fifteen points and eight assists so he was okay but the rest michael porter jr. Oh for eight zero points. Colfax hit seven rebounds three assists. Are you given up on porter when you watch him. When he's not scorn thirty just doesn't what is it just doesn't look the part even when he scored thirty or like how did he. How did he do that. And that's what's so a magical about this guy. His career so far is so absolutely entertaining. I find myself just watching him on the floor. And that's when you when jokers on the floor. There's magic happening out there and it's great. I mean this an up and down thing with joker it's just it's just flat out magic. You got a seven footer. Colefax sixteen twenty three member. How much. I complained when he just shot the ball fifteen times last year. You know seeing that anymore. Three for five from three point line. Eight for eight from the free. Throw line six boys. He's doing everything right now. Some think again. The body language between joker importer joker towards porter. He does look bit annoyed. And i asked mr dempsey about this. And we'll talk to him tomorrow about. It does look like he's a bit annoyed more so with porter's mistakes than anyone else's but there's a difference between porter's mistakes and barton's mistakes who didn't play last night and murray's mistakes and composites mistakes micro greens mistakes even the rookie. Zeke najji and rj hampton mistakes. There's a difference. my coach. I coach a lot on the show at coach steven great dude. He wants said. I'm not going to yell at you for physical state. You can't guard a guy because he's faster than you bigger than you stronger than you bucket. A yell at you if you can't score because you just don't have that ability. I'm not going to yell at you. I'm gonna yell at you when it's mental mistakes when i know you're just not thinking when i know you you you suddenly you're getting a showboat mode and you're forgetting the play and you think you can take a guy one on one when you're not even setting it up porter gets into this mode both defensively and offensively. I just think he forgets his assignment. He sees the ball creeps away from his guy. All right i'm playing off my guy. They teach you to do that. The ball gets closer and he just completely loses it. The idea of a good offensive basketball team is to penetrate deep into the basket. So that when the defense sucks up onto you you you pass it away. You find an open. It's his elementary. it's the easiest thing. They teach him basketball furious. Stud you try to penetrate to the basket. You suck in defenders so that somebody's open on the nba doesn't work like that. People say the nba are bad. They're bad defenders. I yes sometimes. That's true but i also say that the damn good offense a players guys can make make shots with hands in their face like you wouldn't believe this is what they do so getting a team to just lose their guy because oh this guy's dribbling up against me i got i got i got to leave. My guy. got abandon ship. Because jaylen brown's penetrating and i gotta get up on well boom porter. Does this more than anybody. I see in the nba. He leaves his man wide open. He forgets his assignment whether they're playing in a short zone for a moment whether they're in man to man he completely loses where he's going to be and then when he's not delivering offensively he is a liability. Do you want him in late. And he wasn't in late last night. I don't know at that point. He just throw them in and you hope it can be one man comeback machine. Because that's what he's on the team for. He's in a weird slump and when he's not scoring he's a bad player because he's not a good defense player he has his moments on d. but it just doesn't look like the queue is quite there for mpg so now a lot of people talking about trading porter jr. Well now you're not. What are you gonna get forum. You're not gonna get anything form right now. Dixon says murray turnovers were huge. Reporter can't go basically scoreless in. I had a shot. If he hits just a couple of those key times the game might have been different. Boston kept hitting shots when they needed to denver. Justin you're right. Denver had moments. I mean the they came all the way back to tied it up Then boston kind of goes on a run there but the but where are we with mpg. Fun guy to watch when he's role but he's just colfax he's just so out of touch with what's happening. I mean okay. Watch jamal murray. Who i think we would all say an average defender or nobody's gonna say that he's defensive player of the year but nobody says he's bad just watched the difference. Though hel watch barton who we've all talked about being an inconsistent piece to this puzzle for years to for years now. There is a difference watch. Rj hampton watch. Zeke najji rookies. Watch them play defense. They might not always be in the right spots but they don't look utterly and completely lost. I saw. I saw a tweet about this. The other day that was that was basically to play bad defense. You either don't wanna play defense or you. Mentally are just not focused enough. that mentally. Not focused enough can mean a lot of things that you're not grasping the you don't grasp you know wind a hedge out into show. When did when did help ball when wind cave down toward the hoop and get into the pain it. You just. don't get those concepts you don't get the flow of the defense or you just flat out. Don't know where supposed to be or you forget. There was one great defensive moment. Denver's all over the place and puertas find his underneath the basket wide open. I mean that's the easiest thing you can do or you just don't want to. I caught something colfax. And maybe what happens when your teammate falls down pick them back up yeah what. If you're like from meaty a little distance and i fall down pretty hard. Are you walking toward me or you kinda doing a little bit of help me help me up little job job right. Yeah cut this last night. Composite goes down dude. If you watch the nuggets composite was probably the hardest worker on floor. The guy just works. That's a lotta respect falls down pretty hard. He's pushing himself up. I see porter walking toward him. His whole hand out composite looks up kind of like an bouma. Just pops up and porter gives them a high five. Whatever it's a little thing i know but it's like i just don't see this booth with porter. I don't see this like you know. I'm going to run over there teammate. Oh i'm gonna go when i grab this rebound on smacking it and i'm holding onto that basketball tights. Nobody's getting when i go to the hoop. I am going freaking hard. Which means i'm either going to don't get in your face or i'm getting dunked on or i'm getting i'm getting blocked or i'm getting fouled and the ball just kind of did you see he's right by the ram he goes up to late up. It just falls completely over the other side of the rim. Just not strong so i mean those are little things that i'm noticing and again running over to help your teammate out. I mean that's sports. That's that's helping your team. Then just kinda of he's the only guy close to him and clearly. I know it's weird. I don't know maybe. I'm making too much of it but it's just a little thing that i'm catching them. Just like is porter like even on his worst nights. I wanna see the hustle pickup composites. Why set composite so fun to watch. The guy could be. Oh for eight. He just physically can't keep up with a certain offensive player going down swinging. He's constantly got his hands up. he's constantly looking at his head on a swivel. He's jumping he's trying to intercept a pass. I mean he is putting energy out. And i'm telling you if porter could get some of that some of that own whatever that is a kick and then i think he would be. I think you'd be something special. I want to see a hard rebound. I wanna see. He grabbed when he goes up. To rebound kenyon martin style. I want to see a bam. I smacked that ball against the other palm. And there's no freaking way you're bringing that ball out of hand. When i go up. I am going to hurt you. I am going to create a reputation in the nba. You don't wanna try to block porter's dunks because you're you're going to get an elbow to the eyeball. You're going to get a headache. big time. He may not make it. It may bounce off the back of the rim. But that's what i wanna see with this guy. I want to see it like div. I want to see it on defense to you. Might lose that battle but you go down swinging. Don't let a guy blow past you just so you can try to block the shot. If you're that damn good. All right can be used to do that. He wanted defensive player of the year. But you're not that good. You got a lot of work to do you pay attention to the little things and i don't know he's malone not getting through to a him is malone not able to connect to him. Because maybe this isn't gonna work but you're not trading them today folks can play the stocks you sell. Maybe when things are going down but also seen this stock and michael porter jr. score thirty points like nothing so you know he's capable texter. You won't like the comparison but puerto basically gets paid to make threes like von gets paid to make to get sacks if they aren't doing that the rest of their game isn't really worth it but to rebuild be really competitive. Denver needs puerta. Knock down threes almost every night. They don't have a ton of other options after joking. Murray puertas your best shooter. But i will say this. He is a pure score he is. He can be so much more than a three point shooter. I saw against the lakers. Not the one. They won the game before that where they were in the game. In the first and they got knocked down the third. But if you have that tape recorded it go back and watch it. Puerto was cutting. Lebron was guarding importer. Without the ball was cutting to the basket was cutting was trying to get that. Quick joker was finding. We haven't really seen that again. And i is that malone is malone basically little relying too much on joker and just saying we're going to design pretty much ninety five percent around joke and you can't necessarily blame him because he's the only one you can trust right now but where's that cutting that we were seeing in some games. I that's the thing i don't know. How much malone doesn't want to be involved or if it's just he doesn't use his head. I mean i think there could be a little mixture both but when i watched porter do you guys get a basketball sense from puerto or do you. Just get a guy. That's like dude. I'm in the corner. Hit me that's what i'm doing. I'm knocking down threes. And i actually his fate. I think he's better than that. Yes he's going to make his money being a three point shooter. but he's a hell of a rebounder. And when i say that he's good at getting his body in there jumping up for the board because he had his athletic abilities off the chain. He looks like he's not even trying. I guess that's my point. I want to look like he's trying. 'cause imagine what that looks like. I imagine what it imagine. What an aggressive. Off michael porter jr. could look like that's what i wanna see because i see murray get pissed off and i see some different i guess again. What i'm saying is the ceiling is still very high for him. But i gotta start. Seeing steps. last night was frustrating. You know you got to find ways against a team like well boston's and okay there. Five hundred they're expected to be better. You're on the road. Whatever but nobody else was really there and again murray had twenty five which is good for the nine turnovers were killer. Yeah they were tough. Take those away in denver wins. Take that nine down to two and half puerto score five and you probably win that game. The biggest move in the off season for the nuggets was jamal. Murray becoming a superstar carrying over what he did in the bubble and michael porter jr. taken that step to where where murray was two years ago quarters the same guys he was last year. We're just seeing more on a nightly basis and murray is not as good as he was in the bubble. He's about where he was last year. So you have both guys that reverted back to two thousand nine hundred ninety two thousand twenty versions of themselves. And that's why we said of grant. Hey losing him plumlee at a triple double the other night. That was depressing. Kantor craig's rocking. And and you're seeing murray porter the same guys as they were last season. That was supposed to be the saving grace. Oh well it doesn't matter what happens with jeremy grant. It doesn't matter what happens with those other guys as long as those two can take the next step. we're fine. they're not doing it now. Murray is starting to get in those twenties again. Which is what. I wanna see. I don't wanna see murray average nineteen points a game. I want to see murray average twenty three. He's averaging eighteen point eight points per game. i want to see twenty. Two twenty three porter. I want to see you get back up to you know. I know you're young and it was a weird year last year. But you're averaging thirteen you know your score. If you're that bad a defense you need to be so blindingly. Good offense that i look the other way on defense and you know mike malone just like he wants to throw up when puertas out there on defenseman got it. Got to see at twenty two minutes after the hour a lot to get to. Yeah you're not trading you're not trading mpg. The stock is not there. You're not getting anything. What are you getting for the package him. Okay somebody's got to be willing to take a guy that has a high ceiling but man it's going to take some some some serious coaching next level. Data get their seal mortgage great sponsor this program check them out at my special mortgage dot com their family and veteran owned. You've probably heard about interest rates all time lows so now's the time to get rid of any consumer debt that you have car loans credit cards student. That interest is not tax deductible in your house. Payment is that's seal check about at my special mortgage dot com power to play sports poll question of the day. He's von miller gone. Is he done in denver after what we're seeing today from. Espn mike klis. All that odds are probably number fifty eight hall of famer first ballot next. It's a party a northern colorado's voice. Thirteen ten kfi k. Tub block party wednesdays from four to ten. Pm power trip weekdays. Eleven thirteen ten kfi k. Everybody this is dalton. Reisner two thousand. Nineteen draft prospect out of wiggins colorado and. You're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten ks all right here. Here's a better one. I think you and i. I both agree. Von miller is the first ballot hall of fame career. Would you rather have fond miller justin. Jj watt jj. Watt was a three time defensive player of the year three times. No super bowls made it to the play-offs a couple times. Whatever von is has never been a defensive player of the year pro bowls pros both been. They both been all pro whatever but he wanted a super bowl and he's a super bowl. Mvp whose career would you rather have calico with the super bowl super bowl. Yeah and he was an mvp in it if he wasn't the mvp to you. Change your mind now. Now because if you're like jj. I mean the winning the defensive player of the year three times as pretty pretty big as far as winning that award rarely does a great defensive player play at the highest level three times in a season three seasons. I should say things play high levels. But you're talking. He's the best defensive player in the nfl three times. But yeah it's about the woods about one of the super bowl ballot fame ring famer all that stuff but it sure sounds like the end is not by for a number fifty versed advantage text line nine seven four seven eight thirteen and if you're new to the show. Kfi to that number. And you'll get involved dixon saying no way would they trade him. His stroke is so pure. Denver's always needed that threat from there from three. That can knock down and get hot. Yeah he's the best porters the best score on the team outside of joker he's the best pure shooter outside on the team even even above joker on that but right now he's in his head. It's in his head. i do think he's going to be more than just a three point shooter. Though i just i just hope he can get a little bit better defensively. That's going to be the thing. Can you get a little bit better on the defensive side. All right going back to this. We've talked a lot about it. Everybody has the whole shawn watson. I'm not on the train. I just. I liked sean. I think he's one of those elite players and can we can i. Can i give a gripe real quick here. You know my old argument about the hall of fame right colfax. If it's not obvious you're not a hall of famer. Can we stop throwing the phrase unicorn around because everyone unicorn is just like a rare player like jordan. Kobe patrick mahomes tom brady. That's a unicorn. I keep hearing radio. Tv newspaper outlets calling to shawn watson a unicorn. Not a unicorn josh allen. The unicorn josh allen not a unicorn. The watson's not a unicorn josh allen. The workhorse josh buffalo bill. But there's a difference. Russell wilson a unicorn. No you can be a hall of famer and not a unicorn. is patrick. Mahomes a unicorn. Yup absolutely he gets his own room. He he gets the unicorn cornerbacks like they're riding around on unicor the great room. It's amazing it's beautiful i. I'm sorry guys. But i i like to be i. I don't know my demand is a little bit higher. i'm not throwing. They used to call. Kristaps porzingis a unicor. Nicola yokich is a unicorn. The guy can do everything. Everything and defense is getting a little bit better to buy his hand movement. It's the way use it. Yes jokers unicorn. Lebron james is a unicorn. Kevin durant is a unicorn. Luca was getting close to that. But he's taken a step back. You need to prove your unicorn. Status into shawn. Watson is not a unicorn. Tiger woods was a unicorn. The rarest of the rare the greatest of the greats is aaron. Rodgers a unicorn. I need to see unicorns work. Miracles and i need to see unicorns raise their team to that next level and yes they do have to have some help as we're seeing with joker in the nuggets but bottom line is the. The nuggets are still playoff team right now. They're still doing all that and it's basically on the back of one man bringing every single night. They are a playoff team because of nicola yokich so when we talk about this whole unicorn thing you gotta be strict with it. So we're saying to shawn watson once in a lifetime quarterback what i thought. Patrick mahomes was a once in a lifetime. Quarterback and lamar jackson was once in a lifetime. Quarterback josh allen was a once in a lifetime quarterback. Tom brady and aaron rodgers. All these once in a lifetime quarterbacks clearly it's not once in a lifetime we got eight of them that you're talking about man. Shot has great numbers. Amazing numbers that didn't elevate. Houston they made it to the playoffs over a year ago loss to kansas city. The year before that wasn't that the year they they went to. I'm trying to blink. And how many years now have the houston. Texans been to playoffs. But i guess. I just get frustrated with this whole idea That that just sean. Is this once in a lifetime. Quarterback is he patrick. Mahomes listen. I don't even know if i'm trading everything away for patrick mahomes today because you came mahomes has proved it right and they're building around him and all this stuff but i mean the idea that you just trade off three first rounders to second rounders. One third rounder in a player or two. We throw that around like it's nothing many players that is and brady. It's a crap. Shoot the dry and it is. The draft is a crapshoot but now the broncos if you look back at their first round picks they're starting to make it all right so they made the playoffs back in two thousand nineteen that was when they lost to kansas city. They beat the bills. They made it in the wild wild card round to indy and they lost their then before that. I don't think so to shawn's been to the playoffs twice and then last year and agree. Houston's a train wreck they absolutely are. But the broncos are trainwreck. Too and they have work to do. Both sides houston and denver. Try to figure it out trying to get this right but you're sitting here acting like oh to shawn's that good that he's just gonna come over here and fix this situation. We didn't fix the situation. You're in now and this is a bad situation. And no i'm not. I'm not putting all of my hopes and dreams on jerry. Jeudy on caja hamler tim. Patrick's probably not bronco next year. So no forgive me. If i'm not just right off the bat ready to go. So does shawn is played. Three seasons in the nfl and his numbers are crazy in his second year he the second year because his first year seven games his second year he threw for forty one hundred yards twenty six touchdowns nine nine nine hundred thirty eight hundred yards and next year which again okay numbers. Twelve twelve interceptions to twenty six touchdowns two in a row and then this year. Of course he threw threw three touchdown receptions forty one hundred yards. He was awesome. He was all that team had. Those are amazing numbers. But we gotta be careful not to just throw around the whole united porn thing you know. He's a unicorn he's once in a lifetime guy. There's one guy in the nfl. That is a current unicorn. As far as the quarterback position goes. That is patrick mahomes. Tom brady is no longer a unicorn. He can no longer do exactly what he did in his in his prime can he still win year game and the fourth quarter down to down for two minutes left. Yeah i think he still has a game or two like that but yes he's going to rely at at this point. His career is going to rely on a lot. More mahomes we saw in the super bowl. That was rough but at the end of the day. Guys catch some of those passes made and he's making highlight reels for centuries some of those plays when. He's like dodgeball. Ben stiller mode going across his body like that the he's getting the ball to their hands and they're dropping it. That's just stuff you can't. I mean that's amazing steph. Curry is kind of a kind of a unicorn. There's there's a few more unicorns in in terms of nba. Then you easy because that sport lends itself to that right but one guy patrick mahomes. That's that could be in that status. So no i've talked about this a lot and then as far as people say in this colefax well the you know the broncos first round. They're screwed up anyway. Let me let me do a quiz with your facs. We'll go back since it's it's von miller doom day. I guess i'm just gonna ask you quickly first round picks just right off the top of your bat as of right now. You can't say oh well we got. We got to see whatever. I'm gonna ask you so we're going to go all the way i'll start at in two thousand eleven bust or not von miller boom okay hall of famer right so semester williams. Now he's still on the the got back and weird way bradley roby and he's a tough one because he was a part of the no fly zone but he wasn't the starting corner he was that nickel and dime guy when he came back right and didn't really much we. Yeah we got hurt. And then he came hits. That was tough for me because without him. Do you have the no fly zone intact. Because he was a huge part of that because now listen. He was drafted in fourteen nowadays. Having a third corner at third top corner is not strange at all. So i don't know i don't know where you are. We i worked out see i. Yeah i agree. I think it was. I don't think it was a bust. Because he was a part of your legendary defense shane. Ray yeah got lucky with that. Pick because they found pot in his back seat so he dropped and they picked him up. And i was like holy crap. We got lucky for a little bit of pot. We'll take it didn't work out paxton lynch big chambas garrett bowles heck yeah just proved it. You're only as good as your last season. He's the best offense player on the team. And he's the best left tackle in the nfl right now or bradley chubb. Yeah yeah bussed right. Now noah fant stephanie boom so bust jerry jeudy no all right so there's no in between ground there and we're not i guess not i would put maybe like it's working out. I don't think it's the end of the world there again. Chubb was drafted in the second round. We'd be fine. Yes if noah fant was drafted in the second round we'd be fine if jerry jeudy was drafted the second round. It'd be but yeah. I mean you have a lot of. We got to see which is better than complete boss. Jerry jeudy is mad that i think there was a station in denver. That said he's a bust. He's mad at that. Well according to your pick number fifteen and your performance last year. You're a bus compared to wear your drafted. That's the bottom line. So in bradley roby he was picked. I always i always kind of viewed as a second round pick. 'cause he was picked thirty first. All right we gotta take a break here. Well overdue yes. There's a few busts on this list but are some hints here. And so you're telling me between jerry. Jeudy noah fant bradley chubb dare polls all these picks that one out of three is not going to land. If i if i if you're a betting man colfax fee. Would you put fifty bucks on either jerry. Jeudy noah bradley chubb in five years for you to go back and say that worked out absolutely so if you trade those three picks you are getting rid of that one and three shot even the one in three shot so if you try if you trade trade. Three first round picks away for shawn watson. You're not going to even have the. Because i'm telling you man if i pick three guys in the first round next three years one's going to one of them's gonna hit in denver. Unfortunately because del elway struggled with drafts it was really one out of four with elway. But the whole reason. We'll bring a george peyton and here's because he's supposed to be better drafting. So denver is one out of four gable bradley chubb. We don't know yet. But so far one out of four garrett bowles has been a hit. Bradley roby was a von. Miller was a hit. So yeah you're closer to one out of three. So you're gonna give that up for shawn watson and if george peyton is as good as we say is the two out of three should hit productive and you don't you don't have to be the best defensive end in the history of the nfl to not be a bust. You gotta be good. I gotta see ten sacks from your next year. Bradley noah fant. I gotta see sixty plus catches and getting close to ten touchdowns from you jerry. Jeudy i gotta see eighty plus receptions and i got to flirt with a thousand yards and i got to see a flirting with ten plus. Td's that's what i got to see. I don't need you to be leading the league a lot a lot there a lot of what if still but yes right now doesn't look as great but i'm willing to take my chances on young talent. Coming in and no shawn. Watson is not unicor. Let's get the latest on the local sports flash here mornings with gail weekdays. Six to nine and northern colorado's voice thirteen ten kfi. This is mark johnson voice for the colorado buffaloes. And you're listening to the whole. Show my buddy brady ho on thirteen ten. Kfi that's a good poll question. Facts will put that up at the whole show dot com. Who has a better chance of. Not being a first round bust and we'll go. We'll just go the last three. Is it going to be jerry. Jeudy is going to be no or bradley. Who would you say. There's a better chance of not being a first round bus now again. I'm not talking about be a ring. Famer hall of famer. I mean i'm counting on a first rounder. To give me five at least five solid years of production gombrich up on that. I mean people forget. Chubb had really good rookie year. Twelve and a half sacks after that first year. You weren't saying he was a bus. You're saying damn it's pretty good like that The team was just so bad. It was hard to remember. But then the next year he played four games so chubb is not a bust right now. He could be but he's like half and half rookie. Your made the pro bowl this year. Which okay seven. And a half sacks. He played fourteen. Games noah fant got pat shurmur has got to utilize him better. I think and again this goes back. I'm not a big pat shurmur. Guy wasn't excited with the higher last year. But i'm with you. I go bradley based on what. I've seen noah fant started to show some of those signs this year Jerry jeudy i gotta tell you of not being a bust he to me if i'm voting of as far as busts go. Yeah i think it's going to be jerry. Jeudy between those three i mean garrett bowles proved to lay that landed. He's gotta keep going but it's landed. He earned a second contract. So maybe that's maybe that's the the way you measure this earn a second contract. Earn a second contract. You've obviously been good enough. And he made some money. So yeah you gotta earn that second contract. I like that if you do that. Then you're not a bust if not yeah move on. After four years. I've realized just warm worth it. High forty eight after the hour. What's on the tube tonight. Nuggets are back at it. you know. that's the beauty of the nba. You just got to wake up and get right back at it when we come back. We'll get closing thoughts. Get the poll question up and running. Who has a better chance of of not being a first round bus bradley. Chubb noah fant or jerry jeudy inside the bears and presented by chris. Musa agency allstate. Insurance tuesday nights northern colorado's voice thirteen ten. Kfi what's happening in your own backyard. Listen to noko now with tanner's swint a northern colorado's voice thirteen ten kfi k. Cody walk from the lockdown broncos. Podcast walked on nfl network. Make sure the you're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten. Kfi for the latest news in broncos country change the poll question colefax to who has a better chance of being a first round bus not of not being a first round bust of being bradley. No affair jerry jeudy. Maybe that's but who do you think of those three guys. Now bradley chubb. We're eliminating for you. Who do you think has a better chance of being a first round bus. Between noah fant jerry jeudy upsides gotta be there for judy far as great player but what about bust assistance. The i don't know. I think might be the more bus worthy because of the way we talked about now again you might say well. Who was the higher draft pig. it's funny because they were all five away. Chubb was number five. When judy was fifteen. So he's not that far from from where no fan was. So noah fant was twenty so mean as far as saying well you gotta look at you gotta look at where they were drafted because more pressure is gonna come on on that side not necessarily mean. Because you're going to the pretty darn close five picks away. You're gonna say that. So i say. But i do say jerry jerry jeudy because again i. I saw more with fans in the first year that i did this year with with judy. But the this is why when new great draft picks you know people always give you a hard time because you can't really great a draft pick until five years down the road you know at least until you got to see a body of work because it's not going to be based on. oh well. They drafted him. We we know what he did in college. That doesn't make any sense. How did you do at the next level. So that's our power to play. Sports poll question. It's available now at the whole show. Come who is a better chance of being a first rambo bust. These are the last three first round picks by the by the broncos. And the whole reason. We started talking about this because again. You're talking to trading. Three first round. Picks to shawn watson and odds are one probably two of those guys are gonna be. I mean would you say like would you a one of those like would you bet on bradley chubb. An noah fant to be long-term broncos talk in second contract which which could mean whatever that could be they. They're here for five six seven. I wanna say death only chubb. Yeah and probably fant. he's already chubb's already gone fourth year. Yeah i mean when you talk about that. You're you're talking about guys are going to be a part of your your team for a while. So it's it's easy to just throw away first round picks but none of those guys and i know we did our little exercise based on right now but i think you could make a case that none of them would be a bust. I mean you. Jerry jeudy again. I am very very interested to see how he is. His career turns out but the speed the athleticism. It's all there for him. He's just gotta hold onto the ball more all right tonight. It is a winston. I would get the block party on. Kfi tonight starting at four o'clock with preps mid week denver taken on washington. Bag is a back to back games for the nuggets. Taking on the wizards now. Not a great team. They have some power though. Who's going to be the robin to the jokers. Batman by that doesn't make any sense to the yokich is batman tonight is composer. Pick it up. Can we see zero points. Are we see thirty tonight from npr. How about jamal. Murray with another twenty-five but minus the turnovers. That's going to do it for us. When we back on a thursday my thursday night special forget good night northern colorado.

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The Conscious Parenting Revolution with Katherine Sellery

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The Conscious Parenting Revolution with Katherine Sellery

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Tadic speaker unfounded off the conscious. Parenting lucien over the past. Sixteen years catherine his tour thousands of parenthood method of conscious. Parenting the raising. Resilient considerate empowered. Kids who know that in avoids on earth and i'm so excited to shed some wonderful wisdom in this episode. We spoke all about war punches. Parenting media's how which unused conscious things. How accused unstuck themselves. And how it can inspire us to reconnect with iranian speaking with catherine and learnt different tools. I'll definitely take long to my own. Parenting practices like can't wait to his opposite. Let's bring on the amazing kathryn. Catherine welcome to the pool cost. Thank you so much. It's so great to be here thrilled. We buy we worked out. I'm so excited. The kids conscious. Parenting is such an interesting topic. When i read into it when i study on like this makes sense. This is so great but not always the easy choice because she'd be going to this. Default parenting merged totally. But let's just maybe took a ball wall is conscious parenting revolution. Today's t yes. I love it. So i started the conscious parenting revolution about twenty years ago. And even over these last twenty years. It's been an ever revolving experience to be the parent becoming conscious. So that as you were mentioning those default patterns the habitual responses the reactions which are not anything other than habituated to be honest. It's just that this is what we're exposed to in our systems at home. Our original sort of nuclear family systems and dan. what is the greater common consciousness in patterning. Around how you interact with the child's and how you parent is so deeply ingrained that in order for us to pop out of it to even look at it to decide if that's what i wanted to be is. My response requires a conscious choice. It's like waking up from his spell and we've all been cast in this spell and were sleepwalking. Not just in our parenting but pretty much in life in general is the way i look at it and so the conscious part is to just pop out of that so that that response out of me is when i choose and want in it aligns with my values rather than it's just to happen i'm a kinesthetic land. I liked to learn in action. And i feel like if the really great to give smith. Zombie coils upheld conscious power with deal with southern situation. Yeah because i think matt will really explain unsure says but also give people some actionable things today so literally. I did do that. Amazing happy to do that. Yeah and i can do it from everywhere from the older child which is what mine are now to the little ones which is what they used to be in. Certainly all the ones that. I get to work with families that i worked together with. Yeah recently with the current state of affairs. You know a lot of attention. A lot of additional tension has happened in family systems because they've been closer together in proximity prolonged periods of time without break that we usually get. I was working with a family that had all four kids back home. Who to were in uni to were in boarding school. Now they're all altogether again so they're ranging in age from i think about thirteen to twenty two and the two older boys were just not speaking at all so i talk about these things as resentment flows that had built up over time. What do you do with that so the family had actually taken my course both mom and dad and taking the course i do is learning a bunch of tools like learning how to play tennis or build a house. And it's not like you become a master craftsman just because you've been exposed to the ideas. You have to go in for more coaching in this. That and so they were like you know. We're hoping you can help us out here. So i started listening to everybody side. And that's what a conscious person does is. They don't take sites to be a really good mediator end to keep your job. You can't start to citing this one's right in that one's wrong and come in with the judge. It's easier for an outsider to do that than it is for moms and dads but it's something we can all learn even when we're closer to the situation we can still learn to stay out of the judgement even though we think we're so right that this person is wrong nevertheless if we can just be neutral so i could hold space and i think that's really such a beautiful thing to do marshall. Rosenberg was one of my teachers. And he's the founder of the center for nonviolent communication. Cnbc he used to say. Don't do something just stand there and actually it's really hard for us to stand there. We wanted to do something but to give someone your presence and be absolutely present to what they're experiencing without getting into judgment about whether they should be experiencing it this way or that way is a gift and of course requires us. Staying centered within ourselves. Not going into the judger the educator the one who wants to teach somebody something about how wrong they are in that applies to no matter what age a child is way up into the older ages so i just was able to hold space for each person side to be understood in by allowing a space and a container for that to happen listening to this person and then this person and then this person not making anybody right or wrong just giving space fervent when stories to be shared and what starts to happen is a little magic happens in the room the minute this person feels like this side story has been expressed even at this one doesn't agree with it it's been hurt and i can do some of what reflective compassionate active listening for this process where we deeply reflect back to someone okay so from your perspective in your moccasins this is what the world looks like. This is a skill that we use with people of any age and that is the power and the power of acknowledgment is where we start in terms of connecting. Nothing happens in disconnection. Nothing happens in breakdown. Every change has to have that little petri dish where some of the conditions are met for transformation to occur. The number one condition is that we create a space that safe for people to have whatever the feeling is that they're having without making them wrong and to allow it to be an in just allowing it to be. I don't have to agree with it or disagree with it. I don't have to be happy editor sad about it because it's not about me and so that's like one of the keys. Is that dispassionate ability to just see this other person as a sovereign big so creating the space and by doing that with these two boys they actually slowly worked their way back to each other. And then i just say the river life is flowing if we can just get out of the way and create those little bridges the rest habits. Nobody's to make it happen. We can just allow it to happen so with the little three year olds that get triggered. I worked with a little boy who was like five or six and he was always in trouble at school because he was always triggered there. Was this one girl in class. New where everyone of his buttons wasn't how to push up and so for him he was getting in trouble all the time and so i started helping them out and just teaching the little boy how to maintain what we called the remote control over his own responses and he could visualize that he could visualize. 'cause i use like a tv remote control as example i talk about one of my tedtalk centered. If you saw in any event taking the remote control back over his life and he could see visually. Yeah it's true. I'm like tv set. And she just has to push the button and change my channel. And he could see. He'd given his power away but he couldn't figure out how to get the power back. So i wanted to empower him into some visualization so that he could see how to maintain from inside. That's the whole game rate. We don't want children being controlled externally. Because i need this child to have that still whether on there or not to coach him. Whether anybody's there and this is where the power transformation happens because somebody has shipped inside. They have that aha about how they can stay connected to the way they're being they're behaving and a lot of people get out of control of any age again and they feel they have no power over their own responses. We call it being triggered. The reality is that. I don't think you can prevent the trigger from happening without having done a lot of cleansing in terms of your habituated responses and you can get of course lesson less triggered in there all kinds of processes. I teach a lot of. I'm sure other people do those are the processes that allow us to be triggered less often. But that doesn't mean we're not gonna find somebody who knows that one place that we haven't cleansed yet and so we're gonna get triggered and then it's like okay. How do i recover. What are some steps. Where's the oxygen masks for me. And that's what. I like us to do as adults so that we can become basically the support systems around our children learning the skills. And that's how i see parenting. Ics not as punishing children for not having skills but instead is being the guides to support them so that they can learn it which means there are no rewards and punishments and we have to break out of that whole paradigm because it's creating an activating most of our problems. What you just said that is yeah. Quite revolutionary i think tomase Punish here create. He's probably the conventional of people down right way maybe waving parented or a default the parenting that we see happening in the fairground. Yeah let's talk a little. Let's do because my heart breaks greeley. Does i feel so deeply for everybody in the story. I feel deeply for the parent. Who's hurting and upset by the behaviors around them horrible experience. I get that. I totally have empathy for us. I'm gonna put me in that pile a small dad's of course caregivers. It's really horrible. Experience that there's nothing you can do to change. Someone's behavior around you that's upsetting to you and upsetting to someone else and you can also see that. The child may be getting a negative reputation to and you're worried about that. I think all of those things are happening simultaneously. It's just rough. It's tough and then if we can play that game perspective taking and putting ourselves in each other's moccasins and put ourselves in the little person who's listening in spectacular way the expression of their unmet needs and a tragic expression of their unmet needs and it's usually socially unacceptable to so we can hit kind of check every box that would really be irritating but the point is not to focus on our experience of someone else's meltdown. So that's where the conversation changes not that. We're not aware that we're having an experience of someone else's meltdown. Of course we're gonna have a response and to a certain extent you could say that response is irrelevant at a certain level. How i'm feeling about someone. Else's meltdown is sort of irrelevant. Because the person who's having the meltdown is the one who's in the biggest crisis and if that shift can occur you can go from boy. I sure don't like this experience that i'm getting to experience their meltdown but if they're in meltdown they're the one who suffering. They're the one who's lost it. They have lost their center. If you wanna put it in that way and they might not be able to figure out how to get back to it because children in high emotion can become unglued. They can even have feelings about their feelings literally if he can imagine. They're drowning in an ocean. This is the ocean of emotion. They need to find those skills to get back to their center. And you getting mad at them or for the fact that they don't have the skills for regulating their emotions and why would they their children. It's part of childhood. It's like punishing a child for being a child. That's where it just breaks my heart. Because i don't think anybody in the story isn't doing their best. The child is doing their best. And this is the best at the moment there. Little nervous systems and everything. Whatever that happened that happened to them that got the feeling so strong. All of it is happening. It's just a happening. And life's on the skill up. I guess is what i say to parents. It's time to skill app. Because unless you do that you really are back in the world of conventional thinking of you might be thinking. What are people thinking of my parenting. You might be worried about what other people are thinking about you because it can be extremely embarrassing. I've been there. It's almost impossible not to think about what other people are thinking about you because it's a very judgmental society and i know i have seen other people and how their parenting and i can remember vivid situation in a target it was in colorado always a target and there was a mon- with a little kid in the cart and she was just looking straight ahead in the little boy was so upset he must have really blown it. Spectacularly really made mon- mad and he was crying. I'm sorry. Bobby i'm sorry balmy. And she just kept looking straight ahead. She wouldn't give my contact. She wouldn't forgive him. She wouldn't give him any empathy. She needed so much empathy right. She was the one. I was paralyzed in this store. Watching this whole thing unfold. I didn't know what to do. I mean i finally left. It was too painful soon. Find it so hard to watch these human dramas unfolding where i can see little hearts breaking everywhere and i keep thinking to myself omega this story unfold so differently with just a little skill. This whole thing could have unfolded differently. And instead i just see tragedies. It's like a great big tragic story all over the place where people get upset with children for being children. It seems an important skill conscious and bad connection is listening. How do we become better. Listeners usually will start my courses by saying my kids aren't listening to me. I always respond with okay. If i go into your kids. Are they gonna say my mom or dad doesn't listen to me and we both know it's true right so it's that ability again to break the habit of just because a child doesn't do what i want doesn't mean they're not listening. It's means they're not obeying and that brings me back a little bit deeper to what do you want. Do you want children. Do you want children who are obedient and compliant. And so i would just let that land for a minute with your listeners and everybody can just kind of reflect on. What do i want. I know we all think it would be easier if our kids just did what we told them to do. Then it would just be like their little robots in that we do a voice command and they do what we want. It's as they didn't have their essence within them but they do because children are people too and i just like to say that children are people are people. Even little children are people and that means that they have their own insights. About what their preferences are what. They were hoping to do that day. What they were wanting. You know there's a whole little system going on in here and they may hear you and not do it. Not because they didn't hear you because they're not being obedient and that doesn't make them bad. It makes them say yes to something inside themselves. So that's one of the things i like to say is if they're saying no to you by not doing what you wanted them to do. Then they're obviously saying yes to something inside so when you listen you just are listening to go. Hey i was kinda hoping that we could get out of the house now. And i'm noticing that nothing in you is moving in that direction. So what's going on for you today in kind of just listen to what's going on for them. We'll i'm really having fun here. And i wanted to play at home. And you can open up. A whole can of worms in depending on where they're going and why they're resisting. You might find that. They're just having fun at home. And it's a transition issue which is not uncommon for kids of any age to just have trouble transitioning from this to that so that could just be a simple transition issue and there are a lot of tips. I have around just creating transitions to be easier or you could find that it's that there's something about where they're going that they're resisting. They don't want to go to the swimming pool. Because swimming coaches a belay or they don't wanna go to school because their teachers bully or there's a child in the class his ability. They don't wanna go somewhere because that somewhere hasn't experienced for them of feeling either. No belittled humiliated or ashamed. There's a something in there so my curiosity is about. What's that something because once you start to look at them is just beings beings and that. This isn't what we call it disrespectful. Once we stripped the judgments away the get in the way of actually seeing that this is just a human being is in response to my. Maybe it was across. Maybe it was demand i mean that's a whole nother world. We can go into is whether we as parents are in demand constantly which people react to or we really in the world of request and that just opens up a huge can of worms. Because of course everybody's likely. But i gotta get my kids out of the house or yeah we gotta get busy. We gotta get to that. And i'm like yeah okay. And they're all kinds of ways to stack. How you do that in. Prevent your problems that you know. They're down the road from happening. But you have to set it up. You have to set it all up. One of the biggest things probably comes up to me. Actual formosa Is that element of control. And possibly this like. I'm older and i'm your guide and i'm here to tell you the time. Whatever they things like you said you might be trying to get the ball joel. A man don't really playing or doing whatever they are. And i think a big possible is dot control innocuous control and i said that aaron humans i think control comes in northern italian singing many aquifers. It's a big topic now. A- hypes up me in lots of different areas jiffy tribes. What would you say is a way of easing the reins of control. Estacio room undestanding I'm imagining the me. True works is expectations you probably nominee. We'd like your opinion in think this way or not i to soren hair or an extra around us. This is actually a key to my parenting approach and this idea of having control over. Someone is the idea of behavior list. So the behaviorists are the school of thought around you. Use rewards and punishments to get changes in behavior. So i can control and again. It's like using a remote control in this way. If i use a reward. I get this outcome. If i use punishment i get this outcome and i can elicit in control. How you're behaving based on my rewards and punishments. Will we know from the research. Is that when you use rewards and punishments. You create retaliation rebellion resistance. It's called the three rs. So thomas gordon. His research that he was nominated for the nobel peace prize. Three times that i love to refer to. Is that you can use control to get people to do what you want. And you will elicit retaliation rebellion and resistance. And those are the resentment flows. That i'm always listening for when i hear people. Tell me about the disruptive behaviors that they're trying to resolve and it's usually why they ended up coming into a course that i'm running his that they have a specific behavior right. That's really getting to them. And they want to address that so if they're using control. They're actually eliciting all of these other responses that they then spend and i know this from dr louise puertas. Research who worth children are people too and who collaborated with me. In writing the guidance appreciate parenting. Which is what iran lewis found. That if you want to use power and control which are going to elicit as gordon said is the three rs and then research shows that seventy five percent of the disruptions that you're trying to deal with behavioral disruptions. Are those three rs. So those are activated by the way you dealt with this problem over here. So you've got a problem here. You can't get what say child to pick up his toys or to clean up his dishes after dinner or to get out of the house on time i mean mundane little things but you start going into okay. This is you know. I've asked three times one more time. You're going to the naughty chair or time out or no desert or you can have your friend over or you know we just started doing the threats and does are actually the worst thing you could possibly do because even though you could possibly get them to change their behavior because they're afraid of what you're gonna do to them you've now culture that little petri dish of your family system with fear being the controlling form. This is how i make my children. Do what i want is i get them to be afraid of me. And you use dependence on you for access to the preferred activities in the fear of what you can do to them as the basis upon which you get them to change their behavior. Which when you really unpack that. Is that what you wanna culture your family system with. I mean i get. We all want more cooperation and we want them to do this. The other thing. But i find that when people start to dig underneath the surface and really look at. Oh wow i guess is why. I'm getting to do it and no. That isn't what i wanted. I didn't want to do it for that reason. But i did want to cooperation. So that's when we have to step back and become skilled. Changing human behavior is a very complicated thing to do. I love to say. How is it possible that they didn't give us some kind of training a manual of course means something right you know. Everything requires training in life. But why isn't this requiring trading the most complicated human dynamics and we're just allowed to walk out of the hospital. You know what you're kidding even reading parenting bags. I feel like there's a huge pot that helps you with parenting. But it's huge just really self development on your cells these seventeen percent in work that leads. How -solutely the things that i read in the Slamma fiscal who was my sister. Who's twenty two in. Turn things no unhurried who cheered get so much format and i think just what you're describing now the kind of yet Meal you ain't got hitting let now they feel innocent in the moment right in the moment you'll eater feel like you are trying to illicit fair. Even if you think about it you are but in the moment feels innocent but when you reflect upon it really is not the way you want to get him to eat food or enjoy healthy food or enjoy helping you in the kitchen or whatever is in the low. It's total manipulation. Honestly right we know. It's complete manipulation. So let's at least face it so you're absolutely right and i had this feedback for decades with the training that i do. Is that people respond and say oh god not only. Did this. Help me with my parenting. But this helped me at work. These are life skills and it is. It's human development. It's our own personal development consciousness work which benefits everything in our lives from raising our children to how we are with our friends. Our partners our family members are workmates. Everything it really gets back to just having become conscious more consciously aware of. How am i communicating. Why am i communicating in this way. What is it in me. That has become so kurt. And how do. I communicate that in a way. That's not blaming people for my feelings as we start to peel the onion it becomes clearer and clearer that i like to cut work backwards and go okay. So what's the one thing. If we could all just like address this one thing that everything would become better. And i think i come back to blame. I come back to blame over over gun. Blame is the one thing that. If i could shift that i can shift everything and so the minute i blame my children for how i feel and i say things like how dare you. How dare you you make me feel so angry. When you don't cooperate and help out in your cell entitled. When i go down the road like that. I'd like to just go from the very words that come out of my mouth where i'm saying you make me feel. There is a lie there and it's a lie to myself. I'm telling myself that. I have no power and control over my feelings that other people make me feel. That's not true. So i'm already putting myself in the role of a victim like i have no control. I'm just a victim of the whole world. Other people make meet the so. There's my i lie. My second line is to this human. Being that i'm blaming and they have now got this idea of. Oh my god. I make mommy feel for her. To feel good or bad is up to me. So this is like an unrealistic burden on anyone that we could ever possibly create a world in which other people think. They're responsible for other people's feelings like how can they be. But can you imagine how often during the day do you hear. People blaming other people for their feelings laid happens all day long and it's so unhealthy it's unhealthy for the blamer. It's unhealthy for the blamed on unhealthy for everybody. It's also not true. And so this is that core of needed to learn this. 'cause i definitely grew up in a culture where i felt responsible for the people's feelings and i think a lot of us have grown up. In cultures family systems were made to feel the grownups around us are not actually being responsible for their feelings. And saying yeah. I'm getting a feeling right now. I need to really be with that feeling. Not merged with it not lose my identity in it not blame you for it but be aware that the feeling is a signal that something in me. My knees are not being met. I need to sort of tune in to what's going on here and see how to pivot in. This situation creates some external and internal changes. So that's a healthy conversation but the one that's focused on. I've gotta make a change. So i feel better is not a healthy conversation and it's culturing like a family system in filling it with all kinds of untruth his a whole new system around everything. I just a little bit before. We were working about controlling and manipulation. If we've realized that we were doing that before and when i had been using stairs tactic to motivate All mitigation in communication for ease. Things like help ya around the house. Tidy toy these kinds of everyday mundane things done. How can we most of as buying guide without fair. You're opening plaza can of worms. I mean i have a whole section of my course is on motivation without rewards it is the proverbial question of all parents is. How do i generate a system. Where my petri dish is been peppered with the ingredients that give rise to internal motivation as opposed to motivate so. I would say the first thing you do. Is you stop using external motivators based on creating family culture. That's using rewards and punishments and manipulation. Because if a child is in a world where they're learning from their nuclear families system that the way people get people to do things is through threats and punishments reward. You're basically training children to always be looking outside themselves to what's going to happen to them if they don't do what you want or what's gonna happen to them if they do do what you want. And everything is based on them looking outside of themselves to figure out. Okay what's the safe hafer and is the promise nuggets something. That's enticing enough to get me to do what she wants. But it's focused all of my attention to my energy on something outside of may so the entire petri dish is set up with a world in which a child is being cultured in not being in internal motivator nothing about it is internally motivating other than the fact that they have to keep tuning into themselves to figure out how to stay safe in this external world of manipulation. So we can do all this. Amazing what herman you know. Be as much as possible. Consciously parenting our children ourselves. How about when it comes to parenting stone. Suppose it at school or friends and you know that s ending a lotta time with. Yeah see. that's what we're going to have to come up against may might not have the same ways of dealing with conflict situation totaling. It's inevitable that we might be able to create a culture within our own little family and mom and dad may get on the same page relative to children are only ever trying to meet their needs also and that everybody is really just in the process of meeting. Needs one more thing. I wanted to say. Just about the whole choice thing. Was that with regard to children participating in the chores and supporting joining in. It really is all about how we talk about these things and one of my heroes teachers marshall rosenberg to speak about that when we look at the human dynamic in the needs within all of us actually the needs to take him to be considerate of other people. That idea of wanting to do something for someone else then actually need with us that we have spontaneous desire to support other people and be a part of their world like we are naturally drawn to doing that so we don't have to force it or make it. I would just challenge people to be observers of this kind of going back to that question. That skirted around because it's enormous. But i mean we started to get a bit about motivation without rewards intrinsic motivation. What is that wellspring from within. That has us when we are walking down the road and we see someone faller trip and their groceries or run over and support our. Hey are you okay. Can i help you nobis rewarding as nobody's punishing us nobody's externally motivated as it came from within and i think it's a human instinct within us to care about each other. I think things get in the way of that. And we can create systems that interrupt the natural human response and that get in the way of us remembering that we all belong to each other and that we're connected and that we are truly part of an ecosystem alleger ecosystem that we do really have a sense of belonging to one another. What are the things a great that sense down. I guess i would deconstruct things from that. Layer is what am i doing. That's getting in the way of this. Natural sense of spontaneous participation spontaneous enjoyment that comes from the date satisfaction of participating. That is already there when we start to act as though it isn't and i have to make it happen. We start interrupt. What is the natural flow of a river so the test would be for everybody to just on a hunch tested out to see if there might be some truth to it and what i found over the years. Is that my children who you know. They grew up in my kitri dish. So i didn't do the rewards and punishment. I started down this path twenty three years ago when my son was two years old i started as that newbie parent looking for the resources to create a family system. That wasn't based on this. So i wanted to create something different than what i'd grown up them and i didn't know how to do it but i wanted to so i just started going down the road and of course we know when the heart's desire is there all the resources come to it and so i thought the blessing of training with some of the most incredible people who really are the leaders of this consciousness movement that i get jerry the torch for him. They just passed it on. You know we just keep passing in and so a nagina that there is within your child that desire to already want to do those little things around the house like pick up the dishes or set the table. Or what else can i do. Mommy mommy can. I help you out or dad. Can i do something they want to do. This you don't have to do a darn thing all i can say is just. Don't get in the way of it. You get in the way of it by acting as if it's not there already and if you can say to someone hey i really use support support here and communicated so that it feels like it's a request and it really is a hit. Would you be willing to help me out the kitchen or would you be willing to help me out with garage or would you be willing to help me out in the garden and the person receiving it just like an adult would be like. Oh gosh sure. I'd left to or i can't right now because i'm doing blah blah which can later cause. I want to do something with you to and i'd love to help you out and that essentially is what i believe. Parents will cultivate within their family since this desire to create space for people to live in the language of requests versus demands and thereby never activating the three rs allowing for us to live in his face of. Oh i completely understand. It looks like you're really busy right. Now let's check in later. So if i were to say that to you as an adult you would be probably very comfortable at some point feeling satiated with whatever it was that you were doing and ready to come to a different part of meeting a different part of your needs for the collective in the connection so if you just continue to tune back into needs needs needs needs needs. What needs are being met. What needs are being met. Sometimes it takes longer to stay. She a particular need than another time and wonder how. We're going to work this out. Because i want you to meet your needs for fun and i want you to meet your needs for mastery over that game and i want you to meet your needs and i need you to if you don't mind support me as well. This is the culture that we're going to create. It does mean that we break through the paradigm of on the boss and tying that back into the control statement earlier. Yeah you're not really the boss but if you wanna play that role i can tell you how it's gonna go. Obviously a lot of people play that role. Whoever has the most power in the room is the money's going to become the boss and most children grow up in a system where whoever has the most power is the one that is the boss. So how do we cross that over then into systems like our school systems and later in life to cable systems but if we just crossed over into the school system yeah a lot of people do from that space. It's not a child centred environment. Some schools are child centered. So you have choice. You can choose the culture that you want to expose your child to and if you want to expose your child in a culture of children or people to then go to a child centered teaching modality if you wanna go to a school system. Where children do as they're told then. Go down that road. You may choice it and sometimes you don't feel like you have many choices that you really are only in a district or an area where the school around ju- is very hierarchical and it really does say that children have no power. They only are to do as they're told and i would say that's a dangerous system. Because any system that disempowers a child from their sense or their inner sense of rightness children are people and they're not just robots who do as they're told and we can culture children in called the dominant systems without disempowering them so that they don't learn that i just as i'm told whoever has power over me as the person that i obey because there are lots of nasty people at their power and jeffrey epstein and i could go down a huge long list of the metoo movement of people who abused their power and people who felt that they had no choice and that really is the culture that we have created where we create children who are taught to be obedient compliance to someone who has power told. And how can we expect them to then find themselves in situations where people are using their power in ways that are very harmful and then expect them to have the ability to find their now when we beaten there no out of them and we told them to stay connected to their is bad behavior such great wise words but accidentally love speaking to you a some of the best places that we can get started to learn more about conscious targeting. You've mentioned times you'll call smaby tusla bit more about that and how we can find out more about you absolutely so the conscious parenting revolution dot com is my website and i have a course that starts on september twenty eighth and i run my course online now with. This is a new thing for me. It's exciting. I'm so excited to do it. Because it gives me access to teach you know people anywhere in the world so of course going on right now and i have participants who are on the east coast in the us. The west coast. I have somebody. 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S3E10 - Whoa Nellie - Part 1

Pressure Points

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S3E10 - Whoa Nellie - Part 1

"You guessed it pressure points with your to most fabulous hosts in the business on this boy Aj we're hitting you with season three episode ten. Nellie. It's GonNa get saucy to day. Find us on instagram and twitter at point. So fresh. All right I told you not to use that intro or. Exactly why are used welcome back. It's fucking Monday what's new? What's new? This is really confused I was like Puck isn't Monday. It is now. not much just been. You Know Day drinking. I. Heard you had to go to work. Yeah. I went in a few more times this week than. In your sour a couple longer shifts and I was sour four hours nine both of them were a little bit longer than that a little bit of our our shut up about it. Yeah. went out for lunch at the at a brewery, a local brewery and had. A cough coffee, a chocolate stout freaky A co.. A chocolate stout that was. Straight up nearly earned me game. Honestly. STOUTE's in like porters, porters, ports, ports porter thing is Puertas I dunno regard regardless. If that should is dark, it is always good and if you disagree with me get out of my house, you're wrong in my opinion. How political of you? It's because I went into work. So many times this week I'm already back to business back to professional de professional do something I never wished to see such a sweetheart. All right. You do anything fun this last week you know I can't say who I heard it from because I was told not to disclose set information. But I found out about a nice little and we're probably going to get flag because of this nice little secret NSA base Oh yeah corner. Yeah. And I'm still fucked up about it but I'm going to research more about it. Yeah. There to within what like thirty forty miles of us right now where there's one that's really well known. But then there's another one that it's like he was saying that you walk in and it looks shitty on the outside. It's like Oh this is trash. Go inside and it's like like incredible tech. Galore, you have to get past these fucking secure doors, which is like the most US government type thing never hear about. Yeah. But Yeah I'm intrigued. Yeah. We should. We should pull the thread I'm GONNA apply for a job, get it, and then forever be flagged by the government the rest of my life because they're like, is this asshole going to release anything well, the find out that I did. Yeah immediately when you Heard it here I if we mysteriously stopped producing this podcast. Was Not choice and we just call the police. Those police half of this party disappear. If I'm suddenly doing this Solo. Pressure points featuring just AJ? Yeah. There's a product right jeff staging. Then, then is buried in the desert somewhere. A. Also quick little hot hot take on this upcoming episode not this one but one that was suggested to me by thank you so much Haley one of our patriots subscribers I'm going to butcher this name because I didn't look it up. Floor delete a South Asia students are effect I. Don't know but she is Right she's essentially like a Brazilian. I guess congresswoman is the best comparison. political figure. Yeah. Political figure I'm not really going to spoil anything. Also if you're listening to this episode, don't look it up because it's exciting. And don't look it up L. U. She's an ultimate genius I'm terribly impressed by like her like villain prowess. And her is almost on like the sides of her head. This lady looks like a fucking bird. This is probably an alien. Honestly good reliable that threat. Yeah. I I agree I think that it would make sense. So coming up in a couple of weeks who knows when it comes on. It'll be this season. It sounds very interesting but I'm leaving it all to you man it's a it's GONNA be Saucy One Thing is that it's it's really it is a very, very current event That's the best. But this is essentially this season's Chop shop body swap for for me Oh. Yeah. Down good ones. So you're actually going to research. Yeah. Yeah. I know right. Actually put like more than three hours a research into it not three hours did three hours. Twenty minutes. been putting in. So, much more effort and this is bullshit. I do all the editing that's find me don't mind me on pumpkin point that's a new one. That's special Halloween special. That's my solo suffice venture speaking of Halloween. We today started brewing our own backyard brew P. P? Hard apple CIDER. WE'LL keep you up to date on the PODCAST, but in the Patriot. By the time this comes out you'll be able to see I'll have some pictures and videos and stuff, and in on the Patriots, we're going to go like Oh. Yes. Some really shitty phone Oh. Yeah. But we'll We'll on the Patriot and we're GONNA. Keep you up to date every step of the process. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA teach you how to make your own hard apple cider do it with US subscribe with the at the? over commando rate. or any of them really aren't giving up the recipe the P P. points recipe the recipe book. Recipe book the recipe. I'm saying now stop rubbing your stomach I can hear Dan. I'm saying now we are doing a live stream on the day is but it's like two days three days one day before Halloween. Yes. Around a livestream Halloween episode again because it was so much fun and we're going to we're thinking about doing a sweet little face reveal maybe maybe we'll see we're thinking about it but a nice little little saucy post their livestream will be great. Yeah. So you know all the all the regular stuff. that Halloween episode it's GonNa be fun. We're going to be an we're smashing our bruce. It should be ready it will be ready by the By our episode so we'll be. Drunk and. BE, able it's not the last one. Great when I said Oh I have one more quick story for us and then it went on for another forty minutes. That came out to look at two and a half hour long. Yeah. I expect that to happen. Again I'm covering another story from that same book. So if you like that that episode, there's creepy or story that I'm going to be covering about good If you haven't listened to the the previous one, definitely check it out even though it's it's leading up to spooky season. Yeah. Check it out. It's a it's a nice little preemptive. Spooky Season Listen we'll probably have some more lacy stories in there as well. I'm hoping to get her on one of these episodes. Yeah it'll be. It'll be good ole saucy time. We'll have the the actual day eventually at some point in the future. Yeah. Yeah. Anything. Else new. nope. I don't think. So I, think we're think we're all caught up I really don't do a lot of my life. Well, it's fair can't planted some. Not can't you shouldn't be doing. Yeah. Well today's episode brought to you by De. Slim slim longs. Churn So I'm I'm doing a nice little little collection and I'm taking all of the episodes that I did previously and I'm putting them into one. On this episode we're talking eighteen hundreds New York were talking bad bitches and we're talking institution abuse. You guessed it Whoa Nellie now pressure points well, time waiting for the hesitation so. A lot of people kind of know who Nellie bly is. A lot of people don't do you know anything about mental yes. I know everything about Nellie bly that is a bold faced lie yes but I I am familiar with her story. Okay. So Nellie bly was a a reporter in the late eighteen hundreds. She I don't WanNa see that she started like investigative journalism, but she was a big he fisher. Yeah. She was a key figure for it. Now she is actually the inspiration for A. The book around the world in eighty days by Jules Verne because she went around the world in like seventy five, seventy, two days. What a rip off. Yeah. I know right he's like holders up to eighty piece of shit fell short Now, that's not what this episode is about by any means. Okay. Good. Just a quick little back background on her amazing reporter incredible writer I wasn't expecting. Heard. I mean that sounds terrible but I wasn't expecting her book to be like funny and really entertaining. Because a book that I read his called ten days in a mad house which you see the title and you're like Oh yeah. This sounds. Miserable. Yeah. This is like in late eighteen hundreds. Yeah. You're like I'm. About to read a fucking textbook and it is anything but because it's I don't WanNa say so old but because it's from like the late eighteen hundreds, you can get it anywhere their websites where they'll just copy and paste the entire book and put it on there. I would very very heavily recommend reading it because my a account isn't really going to give it justice because she's a phenomenal writer I'm actually probably GonNa read her other book. It's like when I moved to Mexico. The fucking was but yeah, it's really good and it's super short. It's like ninety six pages long. So that's not bad. Certainly, check it out. Now today's focus like I said ten days in a madhouse If you know anything about. Just general world history. Is. Treatment of anyone with a mental disability mental illness. Is Literal Trash aurea hot garbage their accounts of having. To put on shoes that were bolted to the floor and you stood there all day I sounds great. You would be pushed into a like essentially like a large birdcage that was too small to sit down in, and so you're just constantly standing up. they would shackle you bolt you to the floor. Same kind of thing. They would put shoes on that weren't bolted to the floor, but we're too heavy to move. Oh Yeah Right for me what now? Just, for me personally card, you're gonNA. Put out content you're not going anywhere he's arch. Read all these books. It's just a funnel of fucking apple CIDER. I erred apple CIDER. You're looking at DEF- walk walk right here. Do even mention that we were making hard apple CIDER I can't remember we just did. Did you smoke and now? We talked about it now I, know we talked about it but did we actually say it was hard apple cider care while now he did you kill my vibe. Sorry keep going. Fired up pumped so. Like I said I mean they were just fucking terrible to eating. Like if you were like if you had down syndrome if you had depression. Things I like any any kind of mental illness that we recognize today. Those are still very, very poor like it's not handled well, whatsoever lunacy back then they just were like, Oh, you have a disorder buck you and it was terrible this luckily, not gonna say, luckily, it isn't too bad because like there's some parts that are fucking awful. So. Nellie by Owed D. do you said you had something about mistreatment? It was some funky ass word. Did I yeah I asked you anywhere like I. Don't remember this at all, Oh, my okay. But but I do have something about the mistreatment of people. That's what I was talking. No this is totally just off the top of my head Oh. Have you seen I think I think it's a net flicks show called crop see. So it's about this like this town that had this like urban legend of this dude who comes in snatches you away at night just like. So many places have bogeyman can and it's related to this old asylum that was shut down and you can like go out into the woods to go to the where the asylum wasn't as like this crumbling building. And spoiler basically, it turns out that. One of the people who was in the asylum when it was shut down, didn't have anywhere to go obviously because they were they were messed up. And they did end up probably kidnapping and killing a girl with down syndrome cheeses. Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah it's pretty fucked up. I'm intrigued but they they have the you can see a lot of they. They show a lot of footage from like was it penn state or there's a psychiatric hospital it's famous for its mistreatment but this was in like color footage I think it was in the sixties and seventies where there's this videos of people in their own filth like just shake your shaking in this cheese and his shitty asylums Australiam's what's what's it called what's the show us shows called crops the crops in Karachi Rob S. Y.. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Check it out. Super Good. Super Good, especially, because it, it outlines a lot of the abuses that you're talking about today but this is when it's better. And it's still all. Yeah. Because even this, you're just like what the fuck yeah. Pressure points not brought to you by Netflix or plus or child abuse. Really and one's adult abuse. Yes. What was that thing? What? What did they always say like the women you could get a woman incarcerated into an asylum for I mean besides just being a woman on this, literally just being a woman, it's booking horror. I just found a a reason for admission in eighteen, sixty, four to eighteen, eighty, nine get will don't read it I. Want that Shit? Okay. So. Nellie gets called into her her boss's office or editor's office, and he says, Hey, could you commit yourself into an asylum? For for report. and. She just kinda smiles because she's she's like, yeah, I have faith. In my ability as an actress to commence people that I'm on crazy like bio means. So. He says that it's like they're not trying to make these insane like sensational revelations or anything. It's he just says I want you to write down anything whether it's good or bad give praise or blame like. Think that fits but just make sure that you're telling the truth So he looks up at any US I'm afraid of that chronic smile of yours and she just says I will smile no more and she didn't ask how are you going to give me out after I get checked in? That's good. It's like hm maybe more importantly, we talk about the end of this rather than how I go in and he says I don't know yet but we'll get you out if we have to tell you if we have to tell who you are for what purpose you feigned insanity only to get yourself in I. So she's just like Google sounds good to me. So she goes home and she starts thinking how am I gonNa Get Going, to get into this place if you were in her shoes, what would you do in late eighteen hundreds as a New York as a woman how are you gonNa get checked in furiously masturbating? FUCKING H you. That was the reason they put in. deranged. Masturbation I just read it on the list. I. Mean it's fitting. That is not what she did. Okay. Good. So. She's just like I'm GONNA act like a poor crazy girl because there's nothing America hates sin someone that's crazy. But there's nothing America despises like someone that's crazy and poor yes exactly. So She she leaves and she's just like, okay, I got a like lock into my part and she. She's just like, okay I need to assume this I need to be crazy. Any porn crazy. So goes home and she looks in the mirror and she's just like be nuts and go crazy she. She thinks about anybody that she seen. That's that's like feigned insanity or been nuts. And so she's just like I opened my eyes as wide as I can and didn't blink for as long as I could and essentially scared myself because of how literally crazy I looked. Okay. Now, the other thing was that she was like you know I don't really know how to get checked in and so she starts thinking about it and she's like. Well, I could go work somewhere and kind of bothered ladies but that means I've got to find another job and get hired somewhere so she's like we'll leave that for the for the background. So a couple of days she's just she's reading like like impossible ghost stories like right before she goes to bed so that she can't sleep. She is like not really eating because she's like I need to look the part of being like poor and sick. So she like she gets up out of bed the day before she's going to go and she says like she brushes her teeth she washes herself and she's putting yourself down she just kind of looks at it and she says it may be a long time until I see you again. Can't bids it for well like for well, but she's like I'll miss your soap. And she heads out now as she's heading out, she's like, okay should I get a job and try to act crazy it's GonNa be a longer process of be further like all have to worry about being away from home for longer. So she goes you know what I should do. I should find a working woman board house, which at the time it was essentially like it would help women that didn't have the means to own a home or rent a rent an apartment that they would stay at these these board houses for like. Pennies on the dollar, they would get fed that have a place to sleep, but they would still be able to like go into work and not smell like yesterday's Seattle fish market So. She goes I'm going to a women's board house and I'm GONNA make everybody. Think I'm crazy. They're now in it. She says they would never rest until I. was out of their reach and insecure. Secure quarters which I thought was hilarious. She's just like I know women and I know that if I act crazy, they're gonna want me as far away as possible but a safe as possible. So they're like put her in a hospital. Perfect. So she starts walking down the street and she's like, I, know of one. That's like. A mile away or whatever heads over there and ask she's walking she's like. No she determined with her with her editor I'M GONNA go by Nellie Brown rather than Nellie bly because she has a recognizable name because she's obviously been in the press, she's releasing like stories in the newspaper. So she goes by Nellie Brown that way it's easier for the editor to track NBC, which Makes Sense. Like totally different nobody will be indistinguishable names. So before she left, she just grabs like a little bit of money so that she can check in and then but not enough to sustain herself for like a week. She's like I'll have enough for like two days Max. So she's got seventy cents on her and she goes a sooner. I'm broke the sooner I'm going to be thrown into an institution. So she goes to this, this place walked up to the front the ladies like go to the back the back there with a wide is right all I just looking as crazy as possible they they tell her hey, thirty cents for the night check in Gone now I she pays thirty cents goes up to the room and she's like it's it's standard room. But like it's Shitty like for women that are working a really could not have been like a more awful place to stay. She's like for a charitable place like there's no varnish on the tables it's like the beds are made of other trash. You know there's no varnish on my table just the pod stable this one but not like on my dinner table I, mean whatever but. She's just like the wood floors are just like all crackly and Shitty and she's like it's ice cold and she goes the sooner and get out of this place the better because it is fucking God. Awful. So I really good quote that actually liked from this it's really applicable to today. She says, I have often moralise on the repulsive form charity always assumes and they talk about it later on your like fucking Christ really you're giving people like you're giving and you're like Oh yeah. Here's a moldy fucking bread be happy because it's free it's fuck off. Skew's name so she. Tells the other tenants how sad she always is like, oh. Good. I start. Oh, lay. And it's It's so fucking hilarious because. She goes down to this dinner and they give them like fucking beef broth and like rock hard bread. But they put the bread in the beef broth. She asks for it and the ladies like it goes in the soup she's like okay. And like sits down with these these ladies and they're like, Oh, who are you? How are you like? Do you work and she's like I've never worked a day I. Just think it's so sad that people work there like. Working. As A. It's funny because as she's like you're reading, she's just like like sits down with this lady in the ladies like. So where are you from she's I don't remember anything and I'm just so sad about it. You'll like fucking held. Was Me and everybody back then like oh Mentally, insane because how could you be sad in eighteen hundreds of? An eighteen hundreds, New York so She's she's like not bitching, but she's just like I'm so sad on. So miserable and depressed and all all the ladies there like we'll stop being set your cured now Kodiak and I think of that. So. She's she's sitting there in her roommate is just like would you shut up stop being miserable like I can't be in this room with you kiss ladies they're convinced she's nuts. There's women talking about like she's she's a murderer she's going to be crazy. This is a fucking crazy girl one. She actually has a fucking nightmare about her. Wakes up. She's an ramming because she fully believes that Nellie Brown is going to stab her to death in this boarding house she is in your. Cell, before they go to bed or anything this lady Mrs Crane comes over and she's all hey, Nelly roommate all take your spot here. All help Nellie out. He'll be fine and this lady is like so reassuring and so nice. Tonelli she's like everything's fine like Yeah you're sad and it is sad that people have to work. But what better way to really get on top than to find a job and just start doing what you love and now he's like well, I've never worked warner? Miserable here like you fucking bastard like I. Think it's just. She's so scheming. It's great So I this lady goes to sleep in the same bed with Nellie so that she can comfort her through the Night Comfort Nellie to go to sleep. You're like, what like? Mrs Crane, sounds. Just fucking grandma ever. So the. She says I'm struggling to keep myself awake because I have to maintain this insanity. So nellie stays up all night thinking about what she's GonNa do in the future where she's like okay. Well, when I wake up, what do I need to do to keeping Grazie like just to keep herself awake Next thing she knows signed comes up. Mrs Crane turns in his like you still up and she's like, yeah, I couldn't sleep everything's just so sad. And, I'm sure at this point she's just getting tired of like the catchphrase I'm sad it's like fucking hell. So. The owner of the building had gotten a complaint about the lady that has a nightmare about. Like this is your fault that I'm having this nightmare bastard they'll get this crazy bitch outta here. So the owner of the building comes up with the police in like Hey we need to get you out and now he's like Oh. No. No Way and at the same time she like I do need to go with them and she goes oh well, maybe you guys can help me find my bags and the officers are like, yeah we'll help you find your bags. and. So, Nellie goes with them and they're walking along and like everybody seemed nearly walk with these officers and in eighteen hundreds New York they're like, oh look at crazy girl walking with the police. So there are people just following her taunting her she's like their kids that are just coming up laughing like, oh, crazy woman how Fun Jesus. What the hell why is it a community event? Really though so they go and they take her to this area where they're like Oh. Yeah you'll find your bags here they of course, they don't have because she. She never had them to begin with. So they go well where you from like where would your bags have come from and she's like a Cuba and they're like, okay. Well. We don't have them. Do you know who you are and she's like, no, I, don't even know how. I. Got here. Like I don't know anything about my past I just been suffering from headaches ever since attic started I can't remember anything. So they're like. fucking judge like somebody's gotTA figure this out. So they take care to the judge and. Like I said she's like. To New York and they're like, well, you're here. You're here right. So She's just walking and she's like, all right. Well. This'll help kind of expedite things and the judge. is soon as she walks into the room, she sees judge and she's like the kindness I saw every line in his face it's going to be hard as hell for him to get me check into a an assize. She's got like a salt marshes thing. She's just like he's not going to send to a madhouse. So he brings her in any cycle. What happened She's like I mean like I. Don't know. That's the thing that she just keeps claiming she has no idea. She's like a crazy person wouldn't know. So he's like we'll someone's probably worried about your good girl like someone's got to be worried about where you've gone off to you look a lot like my sister I have to take you under my wing she's like God. Just make this half and already damaged. Like how awful is that? You're just like all I have to do is get checked into an say like an asylum. Yeah. Everyone like Mrs Crane, like they're good people here and the judge is like I. People, and she no. To. Stop helping me. So. This officer that standing buyers just like, oh, well, maybe we should just take her to the island since nobody knows to do with her and the building owner even goes no, no, no, no, no no no do not take her to the island and She says she she's GonNa die if she goes there and Nell, he's like I wanted to strangle her for being counterproductive at this point. So. She starts just going wild as soon as this lady's like, don't take her to the the asylum. Nelly just like I immediately just go where am I belongs where my where my boxes where is it? Just starts losing it and she's she's just yelling and so they call an ambulance and the like. Get this lady out of here. The judge is convinced that she's an immigrant and that she was drugged and he's like, I'm gonNA come within the ambulance I really take out. Wow. What though like what the hell what good dude is like I'm GonNa make sure this woman is safe. No right you're like this is not the direction that you thought this episode was going. And she she was rehabilitated out of the kindness of his heart Oh and so one of the quotes she says, if only we had more such men as judged w, the poor unfortunates would not find a life of darkness. So he goes to the doctor and he's just like there's gotta be something we can do for the doctor like sees her and he just it's just he's like well, she needs to go to Bellevue hospital like. Plain. Crazy. Now, she's nuts like he pulls out a light shines it in her eyes and he's all like she's just like I'm straining to keep my eye open like staring off into the distance because I started thinking a crazy person would do and he goes well, her eyes are there dilating and a crazy person wouldn't so she probably crazy but there's something wrong with her. So he's like. I'll take over. So the judge is like, okay just make sure she's alright. So Dr takes her instead and he's all. Yeah, WE'RE GONNA go to Bellevue Hospital and they hop back in the ambulance as soon as I get in get to the. Get to the hospital. This dude throws open the doors and just grabs nilly like fucking crazy heart tries ripping or out of the ambulance and the doctor's like dude calmed down because Nelly just looks she's like what Baucus going off is this yeah and the students like. Okay. My bad. She gets out. He's like fucking trying to rush her and the doctors do you need it stop and he's just like being so aggressive with her So. they get inside and she starts hearing screams from inside the hospital. That's a good sign and she's immediately just like. I don't think I should be doing this. Yeah. slightly. So the keeps telling her. He's all like he's looking at it like this pitched fucking nuts like she's a crazy bitch get out of here and he keeps lying we're like, oh yeah, everything's GonNa. Be Fine. Hospitals can help you. It'll be great and she's like I know he's lying to me because I'm not crazy and I can hear the lying in its voice. So this. This mail worker comes up to her and he just starts asking all these accusing questions and he's like, like, where are you from? What are you doing here and she's like like I don't know I'm I'm saddened crazy. So they're like, yeah. Checker in taker into this room whatever. So the doctors like will be. In like fades away and he's like peace out. Bitch. So nilly goes and she runs into like. A couple women that are in there that that are like Oh. Yeah. I've been held against. My will like I shouldn't be here. which is what a crazy person would say. That's so unfortunate. But at the same time, like you don't diagnose someone crazy and you're not like Oh hey, like you go to a an insane asylum because you say you shouldn't be here. masturbating. Going to drop that. You're. So? And talks to this one lady that's like Yeah I've been held in will all that happened was in my son lost his job and I started working but I started to get sick and I started wearing myself out that I couldn't work, and so we're employers were like, Oh, well, she's crazy centrally asylum you'll like. that. She can't work anymore and they're like, yeah, this bitch is crazy. She doesn't WanNa work. She's sick. She's insane. Must be insane. Yeah. She must be depressed what the fuck is wrong with you please. So this doctor comes up to her and he goes like so where are you like what's? Like do you know where you are what's your story and she's just she keeps of like Feigning Insanity and He goes where is home and she's like Cuba and he saw are you a woman of the city and she's like, no, I mean like I've I had an apartment like I've always lived by myself. I don't live on the streets and he goes. Are you a whore and she's just like what the fuck? It's like they would so quickly assume that if you're not like this working perfect woman the ear, just one a whore and too crazy. I mean but that that checks out that'll checks out I mean what they thought that until like the seventies. Yeah. Some places still think that Alabama. Not to put you. Sorry I just slipped out I didn't mean to say. So she just goes no like. I'm my own person kind of thing. and. He walks away turns to his CO worker and he goes yeah, she's definitely demented. Oh. My God this. Week and she's definitely a slut like I imagine that she's just like he goes all whore and she's like, no, I'm not and he turns to his furnace shoots booked up. Yeah. A Hor- imagine she standing there just for their hands up like who the? FUCKING So after she talks to this like an naval and she goes through like the worst insanity interview ever. There's another lady that gets checked in but she isn't told where she is like she comes in and she's like, where am I like the fuck is going on and this lady her name is Tilley Maynard now and Neville. Until he made ardor to people that are kind of like I guess you could say Nellie constants in the book like her to people she kinda she's like and not crazy. And he just like someone I need to protect So because she's crazy well because the lady like she doesn't know where she is it's not like she came into the hospital in like we're taking you to an asylum like she's just like I don't know what I'm doing here like. I have no. What is what's going on so That night She in your room and she's like it was even colder than the boarding Goddamn at of our you know right and even the is probably moldy. So even at the start when she's at the boarding, how she's like I want to get out of here but I know it's GonNa be worse and renew reading you're like this is definitely gonna be fucking worse. It gets. Worse. Not. To foreshadow or anything, but it was fucking worse. So she asks for an extra blanket they give it to her and she's like it didn't help. It was still is probably got smallpox on it. So the next morning she she wakes up, they go through their like little thing high. Here's a really shitty breakfast like stale bread garbage tea. And I thought it was funny because she brings guy up but never talked about him again. And she's like. This really handsome doctor pulls me into his office and you're like Oh shit is a sex scene in this book. She's just like this guy's fucking hottie and that's it. Raise our Inda he interviews her like she comes in. She's like I'm Nellie Marino and you're like, wait a minute. Nellie. Brown but she says she's switching up to be crazy but even then you're still like you fucking saucy motherfucker. So that. Dr. Do. So he goes. Do you hear voices or anything? Like. Yeah. I hear them but I never listened to him. Good he's like Oh all right now he she leaves his office and this is what I mean. She's like Oh. She points out that he's this handsome doctor and you're reading it. You're like Oh she's into this guy. That's it. He's gone forever. So after she leaves his office, she kinda like stepped off to the side but keeps listening in on everybody else that goes in after her nobody else is saying that they're hearing or seeing anything and she's like Oh shit. I've been hat I'm I'm too crazy and. So. She goes back to a room and there are these reporters keep coming up the like. Oh, the the missing girl, the girl that doesn't know anything. She's a reporter how Shit I didn't think they're going to blow my cover dude. Yeah. They're gonNA walk and be like, oh, that's Nelly I wrote with her. I was at the story with her. So she's in her, she's in a room trying to like cover face and she's like fuck like people are going to know me totally worried because they're going to blow this and her editor is going to be pissed because she didn't even make it to an asylum, which is supposed to be the easiest job in the world for a woman in eighteen hundreds New York. Now she's not an asylum yet. No, she's just a hostile. Oh, she's trying to get into the asylum. Go through this fucking ridiculous process but this is over the course of like two days. Jesus. You think this is an asylum how they're like. Intrigue the way they were treating their notions. So it's still kind of like it's not an asylum, but it's like. Like where they night Hospital. Them Yeah. So She's getting these fucking people that are looking into and she's like Oh God do this is not good. So this guy named Dr Field comes up and he starts questioning her kind of the same questions as she got from Dr Dreamy. Dr Six. Dr. Six. Pack. And she's just like, yeah, like I hear voices or whatever. I don't sleep and he just goes she's hopeless next. Well they gave up quick Oh really think they just completely fucked these women over there like who are these people? High schoolteachers they give us a quick. This is like what the fuck they're all Depressed next. Out Not good at working next. Doesn't sleep well at night next masturbate successive lake. Send them all the island. So she's still chills outside the the room and this tilly maynard comes in and she finds out that she's. Going to go. To asylum but that she's in like a psych ward right now and So she kinda starts panicking and she's like like Y am I here and he says have you just found out the ear in an insane asylum and she's all. Yeah my friend said they were sending me to a convalescent ward to be treated for nervous debility from which I'm suffering since my illness. I want to get out of this place immediately and he just goes. Well you're not going to get out of here in a hurry. Jesus what an asshole and she says he's obviously aware enough that. Like consent. Well, the thing is like this part blew my mind. She goes. If you know anything at all, you should be able to tell that I'm perfectly saying why don't you test me and he says, we know all we want on that score and just leaves. Cheeses. DIED AIN'T GONNA be shown up. by No woman. It's like that's his diagnosis is that he's just like well, I've deemed you crazy. So you're crazy like I've interviewed you as much as I needed to and she's like it was like I'm talking to you now. It's completely fung lazy yourself in those shoes you're nuts you're an you're not even in the asylum yet he sending you to the asylum and he's like, yeah, you're crazy. Done you like no, I'm not. He's like, yeah, you are. Like this is news to me, but like run your test, he's Already. Did he's done. I just did you missed it? Because you're crazy. Dude. It's fucking terrible. Really should not be laughing. Footed, miserable? Awful. System and the thing is like I can guarantee. So many of these things still haven't changed in some I'm sure. So I they round all these women up and they take him onto a dirty cabin on this ship and she's like the floors are covered with. Spit Tobacco like it's just disgusting. And a thirty two big women that are guarding the door and I just imagine like two ladies just what these massive biceps sort of like you're not denote your pitch. Like she's like I didn't WanNa fuck with them so. The boat stops and nobody's the last patient off the boat but she's the only one that's escorted by a large woman. Yeah. I don't know if it's because she was the last one but regardless, somebody's like come on. Well, one of the Katelyn with me over here fucking brooch fucking crazy birch. Like Okay. So nellie asks what is this place? The Lady Goes Blackwell. Island. An insane place where you're you'll never get out of. As this now I'm GonNa talk about something else real quick. Okay. Because like what the book is crazy. So but I guess that's the point. Yeah, exactly. So this is crazy but owns. I in the nineteen sixties. There was and I'm really gonNA try so hard how pissed there's an experiment. Led by Guy Dr Rosemont, and he published this experiment, he said that he and seven different people got checked in two separate psych hospitals in the nineteen sixties and. They had to be diagnosed I all of them said that they were hearing things. And soon as diagnosed and admitted, they all start acting normal they're all like, yeah, I am not crazy so i. The average stay for each person was nineteen days somewhere released within seven. Or the shortest seven, the longest fifty, two days. Where you're telling people, I'm not crazy as acting completely normal. Each person was like their constituency to leave was obligated to take antipsychotic mets and all but one person were diagnosed with schizophrenia in remission it was published in Science magazine in Nineteen seventy three and it was huge dude. Yeah. That's a big study. People started these big psych hospital reforms of bunch of closed due to misdiagnosis. A ton of people were released just because they were like these could be like misdiagnosis sending doctors and re diagnosed. Accurately. Diagnose everybody there was actually a hospital that reached out to Rosen Han and they were like, Hey, send people to us and. We'll find out the people that you send versus the ones that are actually crazy. So over the course of a couple of weeks, you get like one, hundred, ninety, three people to come in and they they're like forty one of them. These forty one people were with you and nineteen of those forty one people they outright said you were sent by Dr Rosen, Han, like you're fraud Kinda like you're you're working with his experiment. Okay. Rosenheim goes. No I didn't send anybody. So they're nineteen people like ten percent of these people that show up are just like you're a liar. Like what? Yeah now that does not help they're diagnosing. Yeah Right. So a lot of people thought that it was an ineffective experiment because they were like this is like if You were to drink blood. You get treated for peptic ulcer and they say, Oh, like a in you say, Oh, well, that's an incorrect. Diagnosis. I don't have a peptic ulcer though my stomach was full with blood and it's like what the fuck else do you expect without going under the knife kind of thing. So a lot of people were like this is a really like deceiving way of of running an experiment now. Yeah. Yeah. I see like if they were acting crazy they were actually acting crazy then yeah they'll be diagnosed as crazy Zak. Yeah that. Makes Sense I can see like the reform from it was great. Phenomenal. Great things I'm sure. Yeah I feel like the the more important part to focus on is not the diagnosis, but the length of time exact takes to be released. Yeah. So in two thousand, twelve haunt died and New New York Post journalist discovered that there's not enough evidence to conclude that the seven people existed. Yeah. So yeah, you told. Me earlier days last. Round out. So they only had evidence of one person, one other person they were like, yeah and said, he did this one other person said that they got checked in and they said that they had a very positive experience. He said there was no mistreatment overall. It was just a good experience and so she actually released a book called the great pretender. And discovers his colleagues. All believed him to be a bullshitter like everybody that worked with him at Stanford was like, yeah. This is like he would go into parties and everybody like he would change people's views on things just because he was a charismatic Asshole, I read that and I was. So angry. Yeah. What pressure your blood pressure taken bells God. Dude like his experiment like in obviously helped make some psycho hospitals more aware of what they were doing like. Yeah. Obviously you're not going to diagnose everybody correctly yes. This could have been an this can be seen as A. And I'm trying to think of the right word like it's it's unethical. YEA, it's. Like this yeah. But the fact that like it didn't even happen. Slightly infuriating and I believed it and did a lot of fucking notes on it and ritual Goddamn experiment and July. You son of a bitch if you weren't dead, I'd kill you. Like oh man I was so fucking mad because as I was doing the research for it I go in and I was like Bait Babe. Listen to this I'm telling my girlfriend like fucking spouting out all the shit about this cool experiment. She's like Ooh I might actually listened to this episode. And I was like yet who it's going to be bucking. Good. I'm excited. Not even ten minutes later like Sushi hops in the shower on Mike. Click and typing and I just stop like motherfucker yet mother fucker and I go open the door like bullpen the shower as like booking. She's like what? He's a fucking liar man do not talking about Your Dad oh triggered. There's a really big issue with that right now like there's a huge controversy in science magazines right now. So similar to that where basically a ton of people are lying about their studies like there's dude, he this is just the most recent one that I heard about he came up with this fantastic like amazing technology to make skin graphs. Like a new process to make skin grafts from other people be not rejected. So if you get burned, you can get a bunch of skin from other doesn't matter. So he proved this by transplanting skin onto rats as like. Is I like? Proof of concept I've heard something about this. I'm pretty sure I yelled at you about it at one point. But that's how this podcast word. Yes. Through just scream at each other about whatever we're passionate on. Yeah. So he builds up all this hype. He gets thousands of dollars in grant money. He has interns running like the studies with him. It's a huge thing he goes to present. He's on the way and he's sitting there and. Shit I'm a fraud Oh I don't have any evidence of this her open I do have this sharpie. So he sharpies a patch of skin. Onto a mouse and just make sure nobody gets close to it. And like he is published in. Two. Thousand Twelve Oh. Jeez. So many articles are so many journals covered him and it was this amazing thing and then one day one of his insurance was like. Smells like sharpen here. The fuck is on this mouse and he cleans it off some alcohol and Oh this dude I hopefully he's in prison I don't actually know Bailey though there's a huge problem where you know these are really early numbers but up to forty to sixty percent of scientific studies are not able to be reproduced recreated just because they're so fucking fraudulent because it's Either fraudulent or it? It's not a like consistent They're they're not taking all all the factors into consideration what the which is a huge issue. Yeah. When because in science if you're publishing a journal that's been peer reviewed that it should have already been recreated, it should have already been reproduced. It should have you should've it should've been done by peers multiple times like there's Some last here reviewed. But they're not the biggest thing that I love about these. Well ethical experiments that are actually being done is that when you release your findings, someone is supposed to take those findings and they do everything in their power to disprove what you say you've proven if they can't disprove what you've proven than your experiment is obviously. It. Just proving it. Then that starts to experiment and somebody says, Hey, how can we disprove this second dude and agree with the first? Yeah like it's supposed to. Have the checks and balances build it Oh, God. Checks now later. Like Oh, it's it's crazy and you know there are a lot of factors and a lot of scientific studies that. That people don't take into consideration like where we are at in the universe, the particles like, yeah of our positioning. Solar, system. Yeah stuff like that things that you wouldn't ever think to take into consideration like there were a bunch of medical tests or I can only think of one where you could basically check when a when a woman is leading like if you it's a blood test and like the album, it would foam up in a specific way and it wouldn't happen. yeah unless you're ovulating. and. That was the standard medical test for decades and has stopped working and they eventually figured out it was based on the radiation or something like that of where we were at hurling through the universe and that in a certain amount of time, we would come back through it and then it would work again, I'm that's crazy. That's crazy. But so I understand that there are things like that that can influence these tests but more than half of these tests potentially potentially fraudulent, and of course, you'll have fraudulent tests because there's money involved. There's a you know they're they're trying to get grant money. They're trying to get government money. They're trying to get patents on things because in the US if you invent something even if you're using tax money, you are allowed to patent that. So if you're working for pharmaceutical company and you say I'm GonNa, make this new brand of painkiller and you do and you get the patent on it and you start marketing it as this non addictive amazing painkiller. Suddenly there's a heroin epidemic because you patented opioid saw Jesus. Christ. Yeah. The system pretty broken especially in the US and the FDA takes forever to pass some things that have already like even if you've tested things. In therapies in different countries for decades and has been proven to be safe still has to go through the FDA which I understand you know say yeah. But at the same time, but at the same time, if it's already been done, it's been done. We should get that to save lives but I digress and who've onto a new topic but back to Ellie okay. So I. Just, a quick catch up. So she went to the boarding home for working women got kicked out. She's been taken to the hospital diagnosed sent on that ship and she was told you're going to Blackwell Island and insane place where you'll never get out of. Thank you so much to our patriots subscribers case aiming Facie Haley Dr Runner and Taty. toodle TATY doodles. He would shout out to you guys will catch you next week. Find us on instagram twitter at. points, pressure part to come and soon.

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Rocket 215: Oculus Rift Tea Time

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Rocket 215: Oculus Rift Tea Time

"The. Hello, and welcome to rockets celebrated Dc conversation at this episode is brought to you by a Leonard and squarespace and water cooler trivia. I'm Simone to rush for video producer at polygon dot com. And I'm joined today as always by Christina, Warren, senior club developer advocate at Microsoft and brianna Wu democratic candidate for congress though, currently at DisneyWorld, but we have a special guest today as well. Blake Jay Harris whose book a history of the future Oculus Facebook. And the revolution that swept virtual reality is out literally. Now it just came out yesterday if I'm not wrong, and I saw that I saw that bestseller tag on Amazon. Congratulations can carry like a little bit like more personal introduction here. Let's you win win. I was starting game development. There were a couple books that people told me I absolutely had to read one of them was jacked about the start of rockstar in one of them was console wars. And yeah, I read a lot of books, but console wars is one of these books. I've read probably ten or fifteen times it is. So amazingly good. Blake wrote the definitive book about Seca versus Nintendo. And he did it not with like a a really dry like, you know, encyclopedic. Take he went in got to know all these people firsthand very intimately in turned all of his notes into a really rich narrative. And because of that like console wars. Is just it's remarkably well regarded in our industry for years. There's been talk about what what's bikes next book going to be? What's it gonna be about? And we knew it was going to be about Oculus, and then all of us in the industry are kind of watching as the Oculus launches happening and problems going on. I waiting for years to get this book lake, and it is more amazing. I could have dreamed. So I just I would thank you as a fan alad tell you just on professional note. Thank you for telling our industries stories with so much love beans lot to make. I mean that introduction means a lot to me. You're one of the earliest Puertas council than we become friends since then a smiling over here. I really appreciate it. And yeah, this book definitely did not turn out. How I expected. I was telling you guys before the show ended up taking me three and a half years two years longer than I had planned. My wife was not too happy about that. Wonderfully supportive in financially supportive as I spent this extra time. And and this is just so, you know. You know, there's so many fascinating things. I'm sure we'll get into it. But just with council wars. It was I knew from the beginning. He was going to be a rise. And fall story of Sega Oculus. I thought all right. I'm at the ground floor. You like a rice story, you're like it's a rise in rice story. Let's talk a little bit because you of to this thought this was going to be kind of like ground for like rise and rise maybe strive Oculus tuck little bit about the Genesis for the book. And how you got started writing for it. It's interesting because my first actual interview with the Palmer lucky, and and Reeve and missile the to- founders of octopus. It was almost exactly three years ago to the day. It was February eighteenth twenty sixteen which was also a month before they launched their rift. And at that time was very different even than a couple of months later, but by journey into the story started about a year year and a half before that. And, you know, thank you again so much for the praise for consular is obviously it's wonderful to hear those things. But also budding that book changed my life. Fires that for. My entire twenties and up until the day of my thirtieth birthday. I was eight commodity broker Rockefeller Center in New York and trading coffee and soybeans and sugar for Brazilian clients. And doing that book at success allowed me to do this fulltime. And and I remember talking to my manager right in for counselors came out and saying it was really sad. That was never provided book as good as consul west the rest of my life. And he said, no, no, you know, you'll keep getting better writer, and I said, yeah, I hope so. But I just thought I would never find a topic that had so many interesting larger than life. Character is such a great business story since you're a human story. And and in the end remains to be seen, and certainly the lack of success with Oculus, or at least not achieve what they have expected to achieve will probably not have make the same imprint as Sagan intendo, though. We'll see. But but I just remember feeling that way. And then I'd side one of Oculus decay to headsets at east three in twenty fourteen and thought like a lot of people time like, wow. Wow. This is the future, which is a great deal on a magical feeling, but also from a business standpoint, I was like what does this mean that people feel this way, but I sort of imagined? I remember thinking at the time like, wow, if someone created a time machine and one where you could change time. But you visit there times that would be this incredible thing, what would you actually do with it, especially from a business standpoint? So I was really curious to learn that this story, and then the other thing that's clinched. It for me was because will council words was this life changing thing. No one who never. I'd never written anything or never had anything published before. And the only people who had read my stuff where my wife, and my parents. And so I remember like you said the book came out in may of two thousand fourteen mother's day was around that time and popular mechanics wrote a story about me. And I was like, wow me like, that's so crazy had become into photo shoot. And this was like such a big deal in the Harris family that you might dad came in to like. Juneau be in the photo shoot at take photos of the photo shoot. And so everyone in my family was super site than it was mother's day twenty fourteen and we were having brunch. And it was the day that the popular mechanics. She was coming out in the soon as this story that was going to sell it opened. I left the brunch in the middle. Go get this. And it was like, wow, this is article up lake, and I ended up not giving the the magazine to my mom for a while. Because on the cover was a story that was way more interesting than and it was Palmer lucky and Oculus and. Really want to write this book. Well, that that takes something I worked at make a statement about the book in wanna ask a question about it. Sure. I think if people go back through in listened to rocket up roads talking about Palmer lucky I think we've been consistently in support of him. I think we've given them a lot more of a break than many other outlets have done that said, even being I think pretty generous with kind of some eccentricities. Maybe that would be the word what I really felt reading the first few chapters of this book was guilt about some of my personal appraisals of him. Like, it's it's really funny because I think most people they think Palmer lucky they think about you know. The issues that led to him leaving Facebook. The Hillary Clinton means are all that kind of stuff. And you can't this story of him being a teenager and being a dedicated hardware hacker where he's kind of obsessed with miniaturizing like Nintendo, sixty four components in his like, literally the person in the world like most directly responsible for resurrecting these old VR technologies through passion, like reaching out to John Carr MAC like getting going to eat three making Dev kits for friends. This really humanized him in a way that really made me kind of feel guilty about some of my personal appraisals of him just because we have different political views. So I guess my question is a main did you like getting to know? Oh him. So well over writing the book like does does he feel happy that a wider story about him can come out now like how how do you feel about that? Like, how do you feel this bigger story coming on a while? Before I get into that. Because I have less storm thoughts in that matter. I just want to say something that I've I Palmer knows that. I am friends with you. I've never directly asked his opinion of your anything. But but just generally speaking, I remember that I put together a list of all the articles that came out after the inactive reports that he was like funding a troll campaign and doing all this stuff that that sure we'll talk about later. And and I remember him making a comment and this was almost right after it happened. And I just remember being surprised that he was kind of mature comment when he was so angry, and so upset that hip imported inaccurately and the his job was in jeopardy and he said, but I'm not mad at the people who think that this is true. I mentioned the reporters for you know, because it's not he says, it's not these people's jobs to know, whether it's true or not they're reading these articles, and they are trusting journalists. So. I don't I don't think he would hold it against you told much, and I'm sure that he would appreciate your open-mindedness. There's not enough of that these days, but in terms of. Yeah, I mean, just in the in the simplest way to say is that my book completely change the story that I was writing if for no other than the fact that the founder of the company and one of the main characters probably humane main character ended up being fired or as Facebook, describe it exited. And I remember talking to people in the weeks after that and like friends who the tech industry and just like they were they felt bad for me. Like, oh, you're going to like either it's going to come out and people are going to hate it because they hate calmer because he's an evil Mazzi terrible person. Or or like, you know, you're just not gonna sell any copies. And no one's gonna care about it. And and the one of the things I would say is that because of what we're describing just like the way that you understandably assume that a lot of what you were reading about him and his ten thousand dollars donation was works was true. Like, I really came to the journalism very differently. And obviously having a front row seat to that knowing what was true, and what was not knowing how hard it was to get the truth out there. And how it was just like this game of telephone where something that was initially not true just became outright Falzon. Slanderous, right. I think that's force be to really stick a lot more about the process of reporting and what I was doing. And I hope that you know. I guess I think the book hopefully, read as as breezily in his easily as consul worst. But I definitely tried to report a little bit differently as a journalist because I felt like I had responsibility to not do what people had done the Palmer than sort of getting original question about maybe how he feels about this coming out. Just what it was like me. I felt a great responsibility to set the record straight with counselors. I this a lot like I, you know, I was really lucky that I got to be able to tell the story. And I felt like I was grateful to be the custodian of those people stories to get tell it and that was celebratory thing. But this was a real dark chaotic weird thing. And for me, it was super important to get the story. Right. And part of doing that entailed interviewing people that let's say I really speak with like my not. Yeah. Yeah. So no comments. But you know, I tend to use part of the story of part of the perceive story. And then I spent I spent at least ten hour, you know, for producers who are completely where the situation what happened is that Palmer mayday till let's say ten thousand dollars a nation was ninety one hundred dollars, but he'd be at ten thousand donation to an organization called middle America. And then this organization was five days old. They put up a billboard. Pittsburgh. That's too big to jail ahead. A cartoonist should characterized picture of Hillary Clinton. I if it's very obviously anti Hillary ad, but it was anything unsavory about it. But said one's value judgement. Anyway, this five day old organization. And. Was reported by the Daily Beast. The headline was a Facebook billionaire gaming Palmer secretly funding. Trump's mean, machine and the insinuation. Explicitly implicitly been very much said explicitly by tech influencers and other outlets was at Palmer was almost single handedly responsible for all the terrible stuff that you've seen online over the past six months or during the election season that you know, all those gas chambers and misogynistic means and all that Palmer was the source of that. And I just remember thinking at the time to things which I feel like we're unrelated to my even knowing Palmer or potentially having insight into his political beliefs. I just never thinking like, wow, how is this organization only five days old and somehow responsible for all this and to Canada hit him how exhausting a year twenty sixteen. Yes. And it's also report is is important because this was like six weeks away from the election. Like it was super close. Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing was like, all right? It's Palmer supposedly did this terrible thing with means. Like, let me see the needs for stuff. I find objectionable than than. Yeah. That's really shitty. But there is no memes. None of this article said memes. I remember one of them said that the memes were so terrible. But couldn't even show them. And I was like, well, no because they don't make sense. And you are during as this was happening. You were working on this book, and at this point in the trajectory of Oculus this story. How did you yourself? See see that that what shape was the narrative taking for you at this point. It's really a question. I'm saying that the first the book is five hundred pages. But again, very easy read silage to sit home. I would say that the first three hundred and fifty pages came out the same almost as they would have done this happened, and it was pretty much the same book, though, I wanted to you know, sort of give clues Palmer Paul is a supporter, and so I wanted to give clues little bit more about his politics. And he did spend the, you know is UT had been he mentioned something for four chance. So obviously, he has at least a million with four chance. So I wanted to make sure that I wasn't presenting him like some little angel because he's not he's he's a complex person. But otherwise, I didn't really know where the book was going to go at that point. I somebody asked me yesterday during the day. How did I know where to end the book because this is an evolving story with Oculus VR? And and I and how much Palmer's exit like impact that are changed it. And I said that that you know, that Palmer's exit are easy for me because it was the first chapters a kid what dreaming about starting a company so co edited it makes sense that ends with him being fired from the company that otherwise it wasn't probably. Yeah. Tempering state to and I just want to say like, I all my statement, the beginning was more. Like, I think there's a very human side to him is not been told in the story. I didn't know anything about Oculus in like Karnak meeting. John karma check in three. Being the reason? Like, this Kickstarter was successful rang living a trailer trend inside take seventy thousand dollars a year job was Sony. I had no idea. The about any of that. So my statement was more like this this book really humanized to figure, and maybe he was much more directly responsible for developing. This think I'd given him up credit for this is this is a big question. But and I've not finished her book at him, but halfway through it. But when it comes to the the Oculus launch not going well here on rocket. You know, we've we've talked a lot about this. Like I saw the ground game. A lot of developers trying to get resources and develop a software for this very expensive platform. I saw a lot of that behind the scenes, but learn reading your book, it made me realize that maybe Facebook was more responsible for this not going. Well, that may have could did it or originally. So my Kachin he was like if you had to put down like the top. Reason I thing go. Well, what would that do? That's a good question. And I also wanna give Facebook credit here because I don't give them credit many other places. Deserve. He sort of the baddeck. Arkadi story is a familiar one that you know, you start a company it's a small thing and everyone's involved, and it's amazing. Then you sell it. And that's amazing that you'd lose ownership and dig evil corporation baby takes control or changes, and that to a large degree that is held the narrative has ended for so many people at Oculus, but but part of what made the the founders of Oculus and the other executives interested in selling Facebook. And and persuaded them was Facebook's pitch was essentially that they would get to remain autonomous which they said, right Instagram and WhatsApp they are going to treat it like Instagram. Right. I mean, I in they paid to Bill they paid, you know, his to Instagram's of his right before the what's app acquisition as a recall like it was because I remember it was like February or March of two thousand fifteen is that when it good twenty fourteen. But yeah, actually, they did the what's up there. They were trying to do this Facebook acquisition itself through, but that wasn't publicly known then arc bought what's at in March of two thousand fourteen for nineteen billion dollars. I think and then a month. Later. He bought Oculus bird. Okay. It was right after. Okay. I it's it's all boring together. Yeah. I just remember I saw the Oculus demo at CS twenty fourteen like you did. And then Facebook bought it like right after but it was right at the same time as the what's app thing. And and I do remember that the promise was, oh, we'll let them run it on their own. Yeah. And so I wanted to give them credit because they really more so than I would have imagined in more. So than a lot of companies that are acquired they did give them that freedom. Then I would say after they messed up the launch was when Facebook stepped in a lot more and to answer your question of what would you attribute the thoughts launch too? I mean, there's a lot of reasons that you'll see in the book and the like one the one that comes to mind, and this is actually like an analogy. Comparison is I have recently over the past few months since Brendan rebe the CEO at the time and on vacuous left Facebook been talking and talking about the book, and they're one of the things I talked. About was that. There was still I had learned so much so many new things even at the time since I turned to my final manuscript, and I was really debating whether actually trying to push the launch by book to get more of that in or whether I should just let it go out and fix that in a second edition and all that and Brendan who is very inspired by Steve Jobs and apple quality products said you only get one chance to make first pression him. He would wait then I remember thinking like, wow, these books are great human stories and journeys, but they're also kind of business case studies. And I get the terminal decision and continually pushing Oculus so I should back to that here. I think the part of it was just. That idea of perfection being the enemy of good or great where I know that like Oculus publicly mentioned a component shortage, and that was due to the lenses, not being a certain quality. And the they definitely could shift with the leads is that they had a lesser lesser quality. Because there I think most people say they're good enough. But I really help themselves to a higher standard. And I also mentioned that this is be speculating, but it's probably a similar thing that Brendan and the team went through. I went through it the book where it's like the more you keep putting it off because I took two years longer. It's like the debtor you take it has to be to sort of justify taking the extra time, right? In case the for the fans, especially since it started as Kickstarter and bought all this money. Now, you have this outside attention on it that there wasn't from the gaming community. There is now this this hype that is only going to continue to increase the longer. It takes for it to be released. Absolutely think just noticing. It's not a reason per se, but it's just a good sort of precise vacation for how far they came from the original vision. And the original mission was a big part of that Kickstarter campaign was like, hey, we've all been talking about the are for years. But now it's here, and it's affordable on for this three hundred three hundred dollars. You can have a deficit. And of course, you did a high-performance PC, but neither rate is like a three hundred prospects sort of get behind and the whole point of this was that it was like a Florida Beal VR, finally, good quality. And then what they launched this six hundred dollars. And so like just from a marketing standpoint and a branch standpoint, it's like all right? Well, what are we doing here? And I I there's a part of the books a spoiler alert that of an employee basically saying that that HTC five which was I wouldn't say as finished product as as as Oculus as the rift, but it's better and that was like high end pushing the boundaries room scale. Then you have PlayStation. Coming in later that year with a cheaper product. So of course, you need the PlayStation. But and that was kind of like, the affordable the are. And I felt like activists ended up in the middle. And was like neither see store foul and kind of lost their identity as just going to ask that you might not be able to answer this. But how much do you think not shipping with the touch controllers contributed to that? Because I really I love the Oculus rift. It's my preferred of my preferred the VR headsets both because I love those frigging controllers in the vibe is a pain in the butt to setup. But can you can you speak to the touch controller is being delayed at all. Yeah. I mean that was the other thing too one of the things I kind of want to. I'll wrap to spec to your question. But you know, Briana was clarifying her initial statement and saying that, you know, seeing this basically didn't know publicly that Palmer was more than just the spokesman we mostly just alright on the cover of wired. I just I had no idea. It was a hardware. Geek that's been a bunch of time. Like, there was this story came out last week of the death kits audio channels failings and him reading like putting out a hacky made with his own money to repair it a red that like that's kind of that's cool. And then you read the book, and you're like, of course, he did that of course, you would do them. Right. And that gets into again, I'm sure I'll get to this later. But like, you know, Facebook started systematically lying to me about Palmer when it became convenient to make him as undesirable as possible. And what they they don't even describe him. As only a spokesman they described him as one of the spokesman. Was like. Wow. Like, and so, you know, I preface I say that as a preface to one of the things that I think Palmer does deserve a lot of credit for is Oculus touch. I don't even just mean the actual finished product, which is amazing. And in my opinion, makes my, but you know, there's certainly a ton of people involved in stock architecture that Neurath Patel who was an early engineers huge part of it. But the Palmer was always the one there who is beating the drum for for him controllers, and like I have one you'll see later in the book, there's this whole conversation in Tober of twenty thirteen. So this is five months before the acquisition. And this is around the time. They're starting to get working on the second decade on K two. And Palmer is is told the his sole mission in life is to make the hand controllers and prototyping them for year. And so this is perfect. And then in what he in the only time he ever racist voice and got mad and. Oculus was because they cancelled the controller project, and they ended up starting up again, four months later, you know, that's four months if you subtract four months from December of two thousand sixteen when they watch touch I think that maybe they could have done a little bit better. So that's one of the reasons that it was late and also in that Email threat, and there's a lot of Email threads in the book. Carmax says that he doesn't think that. Unique input devices for VR can't controllers are critical to be one of of Hobo. Well, let's take a break from hearing about all of this VRT to talk about Linosa. This upset of rocket is brought to you by Leonard. 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It's funny that Facebook would lie to you and say, you know, he was just one of the spokespeople. Because I remember talking to. Some of the professors, and I guess he worked with when he was at USC or or or I guess when he wasn't even at USC when he was just like nineteen and doing stuff who told me like fourth, right? How involved he wasn't how good he was. And how he was just kind of this other worldly savant. And I remember 'cause I'm talking to them. I think was before Facebook you've been bought Oculus of his I had been so impressed by the decay to demo that I was like this is going to be the future. What is this thing? And I was kind of trying to look into the company and looking into other things, and I was talking to these professors who were just going on and on about this kid, and I was just I was almost in disbelief. It was like is he really this whatnot. But everybody I talked to said the same thing. So it seems ridiculous that Facebook, especially after you'd spend time with him would would try to, you know, change the narrative, but I wanna ask you like what your relationship with them was when you started doing the book and how it ended. Sure. During started into that one thing I was thinking about right now. You know, the book came out yesterday. I've been doing interviews pretty much nonstop for the past twenty four hours, and I guess in a way, you could say that I'm the spokesman for the book, and that's time to be like the guy who started the company the guys who you had a hand in every single product. Then was a part of the discussion for every decision. I'm not gonna say he's the reason certain things everything happened, but like to call him like a spokesman like as if he's like Jared from subway. It's just kinda crazy today. And so, you know. As brianna touched on earlier, you I think one of the things that worked. So well with council was how close I was with the subjects and how the book went beyond just Cyclope facts and got into their hearts and minds and their thoughts in really, the camaraderie. And so that is something that I really only written things since then that where I can get that kind of access to the subjects. And so it took me ticket to fourteen months for my first. Visit talk us in late two thousand fourteen to February of two thousand sixteen when I basically was given unlimited access to speak with employees. And what I mean by that is Facebook or Facebook slash Oculus would introduce me to anyone and try to help set up an additional interview. And then, you know, my relationship between with them going forward was like between me and them if they wanted to talk to begin if they want to talk me off, the record, whatever. So it was a very positive relationship. And also again like for the most part, I think the book is. Donna was Friday, San but like inspiring like it's a positive story of. You know, starting a company and making a difference up until the title hug pages when you really get into some of this political stuff and Palmer's eventual exit, and so what actually happened between me and them was for a year after Palmer had left. I still I remained in contact with Palmer, but it's very obvious that he had signed some sort of NBA something because you know, there was a lot of stuff you couldn't talk about with me, and especially anything related to his exit. And so I knew though, some that need to be addressed in the book, and I explicitly told people if they spoke like my biggest concern is Palmer's exit. Because I I can't just have the end of a chapter be like then Palmer list, and let's that's it. Great. I was like I and so sort of I guess I say that because I definitely made it clear to them. When one of the makers of the book leaves like I need to provide an explanation either certain confidential things, I can't know half. There has to be something there. And so shortly after that, I was told. Details about his exit not just from one person. But from several people and what turned out to not be true. But you know, about how he decided to leave on his own and all this other stuff, and it sounded fishy to me. And it also made me think that because of my writing style, which is this narrative nonfiction style where you feel like these people, and I'm not typically attributing where the information came from as long as I you know, reporting it, and, you know, have confirmed sources, and so I felt like wow. These people are telling me story and having two or three high level people could firm it to me. So I felt like they were just trying to launder this information through my writing style. And so. Around that time. I started to get know people were telling me things about. I was being told it's not true. One small thing was just that. You know Palmer wrote a statement after the dad publicity. Which didn't come out until a day after which was kind of weird because I know Palmer is very reactive and aggressive and next statement. He mentioned that he was playing the vote for Gary Johnson, which I knew was not true because I talked to Palmer at length about why he supported Trump as I was trying to understand how someone intelligent with disappointing his personal size. And so I always had a suspected that he had ridden it. And then someone's just made all tainted comment to me that every time that Palmer right something like, whether it's Email or just, you know, design document, he does this thing that I hate where he was just two slices after period. And then I noticed in that message. It was the only time he ever used one. So it was like that's. And then. Yeah. That was that was a fun look clue. And I was like oh my God. I need to get the story. And was also thinking that Facebook was trying to get me to publicists misinformation. And I thought that the reason they were trying to do that was because they can take advantage of buy approach because it wasn't coming back to them. And so after Mark Zuckerberg was in Washington being questioned about Cambridge Analytica stuff at the end of that. Investigation or time, and you might recall Senator Ted Cruz s Mark about Palmer's firing. And if it was politically motivated and Mark set, no, though, notably. He wasn't under oath. But but so I thought all right now, here's an opportunity I'm going to Email Facebook, and I'm going to include. And I told them that you know, there's always been this conspiracy theory that politics had something to do with Palmer's exit. But I want to clear that up and since I've had this incredible access. It shouldn't come from me. Like Harris, the author who knows like, you know, I'm just a person and people might say, my liberal view. So I said it's gonna come from the horse's mouth, and I'm gonna just include six straight up interview transplants of my conversations with executives of Spokane Oculus, and here's the first one, and it was a conversation with an executive that had. But I now. Now certain was just a lot of lies and they were pinned directly to this person. And shortly after that, my my relationship with Facebook came to it. Wow. That's amazing. So I did want to ask a Cinemax lawsuit. Were you were you there where you round for that? And what impact do you think that had on Palmer already been sidelined at that point? But what impact do you think that had a may Simmons saying anything if any impact at all? That's that's a really good question because you know, Facebook they lost a lot of money. They lost quarter of their investment in that ruling not to mention the legal costs like they they lost hard. And that completely. So I will note that a lot of that was later verse. But, but if yes, of course, like they were being sued for basis three billion dollars buys innomax. At the time. You're totally right. Like, I think it was a separate second twenty seventeen the foreign Kane and Oculus Palmer was named defended. And they lost five hundred billion dollars. At the time. So like, I could see a case for and that's why you know, and that really contribute to Palmer's firing. But one I think Facebook made a really stupid mistake as often seem to do where the day like three days before that the case had rested or both sides have rested their case, and it went to jury, and it was that gay. When Palmer got a call that he need to clear out his office. And he was firing that point. But I just felt like wow. Like, why don't you guys? Just wait until you can say it was something else. Like that was just such an obvious hell that that. Anyway, and think about it, you know, sort of reverse engineer down sort of thinking about it more holistically in that. You know, this is only implied in the book. But it seems like the most logical reason that the reason that they didn't fire calmer initially, whether it was for policy, politics or not know, it seems pretty obviously politics is because they wanted him around for the trial. And so as soon as are now to them they got rid of him. And that's that was always my concern with the whole situation because I also knew that Palmer early on had agreed to be to let himself be defended by Facebook like since he was a named defendant. He could have had his own reputation and call witnesses. But he wanted to be a team player which was also implied. That would be a good decision for him. If you want to his job while so that I mean that that makes that take on completely different tone. This is where I should just close that I worked at Gizmodo, which from the moment, he was sidelined to the moment. He was fired be Brannagh. Palmer watch serious daily at my colleague and former guests on the show. William turn actually did that and bloom actually interviewed him. I think right before he left Gizmodo. I don't know if the interview of Iran or Palmer, they went out together. And in Palmer was understandably maybe a little bit not not happy with. But but but also the same time, they're two young kids. Like William was nineteen at the time. And if there was probably I have to imagine there's probably an era of a game respects game. You know what I mean? You're going to respect like the guy who's closest to your age, who's stalking you. But yeah, I mean, but that that was in that. But that that is really interesting because it because I couldn't tell like an outsider it I couldn't tell if if they were waiting for him in if they want to use him as a scapegoat, you know, for the lawsuit and that was their way of getting rid of them because they didn't wanna make it up here like was political or something else. But that that's really interesting that they are paying for his representation where obviously if they'd already parted ways, he would have his own attorneys and know is whole the whole way he acted could have been very different right on the way to put it to me was it's not that he would like testified differently. Like lied on behalf of Facebook. It's just a great. She would have taken a legal approach. Does you know, you you only have a certain amount of time allotted, and they definitely the main objective for Facebook was to make sure that they lose on any of you know, technology and trade secrets because that could be in the billions billions in royalties, and as we know like the five hundred million was. Based on any trade secrets stop. It was based on early Oculus stuff Palmer, and who knows if it would have turned out differently. It's interesting. You mentioned William because he did have a conversation with Palmer. And at one point Palmer actually showed that Email thread with Maine, which I thought was fascinating. 'cause. I've actually spoken with William. I I generally really respect his work, but one place for here. And I he and I differ, and it's mentioned in that Email thread, and it was something that we had a great respectful conversation about was he believes that there's value to be being antagonistic as a journalist. Am I don't like that? I mean. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Totally does. I mean it and keep absolutely. That's I think part of that is. Not to defend number speaker him, but he started working when he was still in high school like we literally hired to make Moto when he was hadn't graduate from high school and would like have to stop working in the middle of the day to go to English class. He's super talented, and I would I mean what station 'cause totally. But I think that puts like a different curb on things like I can't imagine like having that perspective. I think it makes you in some ways more attack gonna stick by default. When you're that young. And you're just like screw it. I'm just gonna ask everything I would ask, you know. And be is be is gone ZOA is is I think I should be. Sure. And like an also just a little more thirty that situation. Like part of what really bothered Palmer. I started to cough record. I haven't thought about this while I talked to William today's going said I wanted to send a book in the final scene between that conversation between Palmerston there. And he told me he was off the record. So I told him no because I'm actually at journalists to bites by that unlike some others that brianna knows but. Anyway, the thing that pump that actually piss Palmer off was that gives Moto and actually not really am. I think it was Brian. I love Ryan. Yes. Gone wrote about he wrote something unscripted and felt like that was inappropriate to bring her into it. Like, you know, say whatever you want about me. And again, I think it's more just an interesting philosophical analyst. But I mean, I mean, it's interesting. I would also say don't tweet stuff. You know what I mean? Like if it's on Twitter, it's on Twitter. It's not like he went into like records. But but fair enough, I do understand that that I I did always that was funny that like, and he is not Williams. Not the only one who sometimes got blamed for for Brian stuff. I mentioned that was like I love Ryan. Now one thing we at least know about Palmer. Is pretty sexually obvious. Whether you like him, just like, immigration, whatever is he is pretty active and reactive and aggressive on social media and just in general. So like, I know that one of the things that paint him the most running that whole. The the bad press coming out, and what and spreading and becoming this narrative that he was like a racist dotty coal Super Bowl person was that he could not defend his girlfriend. I and the reason he couldn't and gets in some of the more interesting stuff at the book was because in the aftermath of that. You know, that story broke the story claim that the mama was genius me. Mission thing with broke on Thursday night. Palmer originally wrote a statement that you know. Playing. What was true, and what was not in most of it in his opinion was not true and talked about his politics. But he was not allowed to run that statement. He was not allowed to express any support for Trump that he tried say, well, he's he's not supporting Hillary hoping that by possibility nation that would make clear who he was supporting he was not allowed to run that. And he was not allowed to respond to anyone on social media. He wasn't allowed to talk to employers than eventually a state Nick was drafted by Mark Zuckerberg that he ended up posting the one with only wrangling. Yeah. Yeah. The Gary Johnson post. Yeah. Jerry Johnson thing. And so the point I was making was regardless of whether it's ethical or in the public interest or just to techniques report about someone Antarctic manner about their girlfriends. I it just Palmer couldn't respond, and that was the part that always stuck out to being always seem very weird because he his instinct would be to respond, and he ended up being not allowed to communicate a social media or communicate with employees for pretty much the entire six months from when that happened to when he was fired except for one day, they brought him back into the office which was only because they were doing legal stuff nearby the concordant elsewhere, otherwise they wouldn't have brought him. And this gets back to Facebook line was during that day. He was finally allowed to write a letter to his colleagues, and he still really wasn't allowed to talk about much. What happened, but at the end of it and said that. He'd still loved Oculus and plan to be the next fifty years. And so then when Facebook there the the lie of Donald upon chose to leave. I just thought that was a really poor choice for a live. I know that's not true at all. I think everybody knew from outside. Yeah. And that's a really good point about him. Not being able to comment. I think we all kind of felt like that was probably what the case was Russi to say anything. And and that was completely contrary to altogether public things and figuring. Oh, well, yeah. I'm sure this is the lawyers have said if you talk, you know, something bad happen. All right. I find it. A so impressive that you with coming into this situation. I feel like this must have been a trial by fire for you. After something like console wars where it was already, you know, in the past, and it's it's interesting rich history. And then this is like without journalistic training like boom. Here you go. Enjoy the most dramatic high tense. Book growing rice. That's like this story by life of the past years. And I really appreciate you being observation because I certainly it's a small distinction perhaps because I do consider myself both of these things but with counselors. I definitely consider myself more of a storyteller. And obviously, it was factual information is telling but in this case, I definitely felt like more of a journalist, and it was fouled by fire. I felt like I was out of my element. I also did not really know who I could trust a certainly days, you know, sorts of Facebook I couldn't trust. I also face looks like a publicly traded company. Mark forcing him to post. Gary John statement is illegal like there's a lot of stuff at play here. But and that really big part of the reason that it took me two extra years to finish. Because I wanted to make sure that I was following proper protocols. And that if I was publishing these things that I would be you're not going to be this, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Or at least you have a viable defense. If they do try to do something, right? Have you heard anything from Facebook since you publish the book? I heard so few weeks ago. I guess an early January. I I also try intentionally lay as low as possible with the book because I did not want Facebook to get a copy. I didn't want them to forget as much as possible. Then sort of in January reemerging tweeted something's about the book and people at Oculus who either got in the book, or there's so many, new employees. They're like, they didn't know like, oh, this is so cool. There's a book coming out about our company. Like well about that. Then then I know that a manager there someone who I would say had been decisively in the past. So through some water on dampens that enthusiasm and said we worked with Blake early on. But you know, we couldn't trust him. He broke our trust. And then the books we haven't seen a copy of the book yet. But it since we we've heard that sation allies in traumatize a lot of things, and you know, there's so much not true in that statement. And again, like they had they had already kind of copy that point. But I guess it's partially the corresponded before threat with their employees. But anyway, the Irish wants to make the point that the reason I knew about that statement is because so many people are Facebook and Oculus lied to me and the reason because they say nothing. What did they trust their own employer? In the end Facebook strategy of lines me backfired big time because I brought act to people who are close to Palmer and had a lot to risk by helping me when they were told not to, but they're but the deciding between this being printed, even though I never would have actually but that happened. But like, you know, basically. Yeah. This has to convince people to read the book because this is all so flipping juicy Blake. Yeah. This is good. We're so excited. This episode of rocket is also brought to you by squarespace make your next move with squarespace squarespace. 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This is Wednesday came out on the nineteen the February. And this is like Jay Harris, as we said, I think we're going to transition now into our secret segment thicker Yang has promised and Blake gonna stick with us for this. And then we're gonna have one final final just wrap up session. Let him go home and sleep because just come from a book signing to be on this show are schwinn say there is there's a lot of stuff in there. But the journalists are choices that led to Palmer exiting face fog. I help our listeners will go out re. That chapter because there's a lot of stuff there. And I think there are people that need to answer for some of the things in that chapter. But that's where I'm going to leave it blank. I have a secret segment for you today. You're doing show we're going to game show. This is the game show. I would see if Blake Harris can answer trivia questions about his own book, console wars veterans than Christina Cam. That's amazing. This so embarrassing because. Book really embarrassed this a human computer. Shepherding one day. So okay. So trade idea I. Say the dance that you know, when people say. When the talking to people who often forget things they say you need to write it down three. That's why I wrote the book. But. Let's go. This is Rex cow. Let's go. Okay. It's it your book. Do you wanna go first or second because I have all these questions in order. So I don't think there's any bias with which one I picked once. And do you want to be like us? I I was I was raised to be chivalrous. So I will let the lady go. I all right, Christina, sonic, the hedgehog the creator of sonic, the hedgehog revealed that his design after the contest, basically, create sonic thatch on that contest is Seca to create him his design came from two characters. What were those two characters? They put the head of something body of another thing if it's like roadrunner, and like, Nikki moss. I don't know. Yes. That silence is golden can I steal brianna? No. You can't you. Can't you get? Okay. Okay. We're going to give Christina partial credit for that. Felix the cat. And it was Mickey Mouse. So Christina gets one half a point. Okay. I think it's just again like point six g get an extra point one because I think road on versus to create a Manson I like that. Literally those really good. Okay, blake. When Kalinski Tom Kalin say came forward and unveiled sonic to promoting it. He promoted this game at the mall with the member of the saved by the bell cast. What what which saved by the bell cast member? Sent I would get answer Dustin diamond, that's correct vase Lert rally. Karen, I'm very mad. I didn't get that one. I would have known. I don't see what the Bill pop up restaurant in Los Angeles last week. So yeah. Okay. Okay, christina. Yes. So we all know about like mode seven versus Genesis blast processing, right, but the technical name within the Genesis four blast processing what was that name? It's not blast processing it's something else. I don't know. Re you're being cruel the hard questions. Yes. This. This is really hard roadrunner. I six again, Greg. Yeah. I have I have I have no idea. I mean this. This was the Genesis. This wasn't even part of the the more critic. No now, I'm gonna bench thirty bucks, or whatever I genuinely have no idea. I do not remember are linked to your bunker. I'm so glad. The answers burst boat cells. Okay. I don't think you're gonna get this one Blake. This is a very hard one. Okay. Between nineteen eighty-seven in nineteen ninety two Capcom worked with Disney to release four different video games. Can you name three of them? Nice. I choose this is before The Lion King and all that stuff. Chippendales rescue interest. Is that one? Nope. Nope. That was a Capcom. When does not I think that must have been released after nineteen ninety two or that's not mentioned in this particular segment of Boston in the book. So you know, I may have a faulty question here. I'm gonna I'm gonna. Yeah. It's a Mickey chick game. Can I stay the assures of one of the one of the titles anyway? Sorry, go on his there were two different. There were two different publishers for for one of the big games. One of them was for super Nintendo. And one of them was precision will. Right. That was for the Aladdin game. Yes. That was like three. So that had to be have crowd ninety three. Okay. For some reason. I thought it was ninety two the movie come out. Nice you. Oh, yeah. You're right. It was I I don't know. I know you're right. That's ninety three. That's what are the four games that they did. Landis. Your book mentioned at least. So we're gonna pass that would Mickey's mouse campaign, which is a great game. I played too much of that duck tales Roger rabbit in little mermaid. That's just too as love those fucks. Lori was just GameBoy wasn't it that wasn't even on the air. I've no idea. I think that was the only game anyway. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Christina John Glenn worked with TCI and Time Warner Cable to implement a revolutionary on demand. Video game service. Oh, what was the name was the night? The Sega channel. That's it. Yeah. Which which was feature which was featured in in the film. Oh rats, of course with with with with the the hockey game. You know, NHL ninety two or ninety three or whatever. Yeah. Anyway. Okay. Stan would keeping score. What's the score? Can absolutely not keeping score you on big bird one point six to one. Okay. Justice very type very very close. Okay. We got four questions left. What are would Sega? I came forward in proposed video game ratings. They proposed a three tier system. Like, what were those three tiers? I can't believe loses. Contest. Let's be embarrassed. I don't know. I ended up being so much like the other one. I guess I would say e for everyone and seventeen plus. You had Chee for general audiences MA thirteen then may seventeen for adults only. Damn I think he pointed out I think he should get these top points that because he's basically bear because he's right. It was basically the same as the Rb. So you know, I I can go I can go with that. All right. This is this is a much easier when you're gonna have to name the games. So how going okay. So when you know the the period of Sega's like kind of downfall, right? There were moving. They're putting all these ridiculous extra things like thirty two thirty smack. Yeah. Right saturn. Right. So they're gonna win. This this weird stage. Right, sonic, three comes out. But the entire game isn't finished. And they decided to split it into two parts. I'll give you half a point for naming the technology that they used to ship the second part of sonic three. And I will give it another half of VO point to know the game that was added onto sonic Bree. Okay. So it was it was sonic. Knuckles will. Okay. That was the third one. Right. Okay. That was the combined game that you made. Right. Like it was like you'd got like stomach three. And then and then you would you would have it with the second game for. Yup. May not on top of each other was on joining us to together. I don't know. I don't know. I just for to be that it made sonic and knuckles. I have no idea. It's art. That's lock on technology. Lock on. Okay. Look on. I remember that one. So that we'll set up to Paul Rio the CFO because he was the guy who had remembered that. Yeah. All right. So in Nayan of nineteen Ninety-three flake Sony paid forty eight million dollars to acquire a company that specialized in three D of rendering for games, the competed with basically FM v games like they would they would render. On that. What was the name of that company? It's a one the main sewer shark, and actually I don't remember. That is a good question though. No, no, no. I mean, the only one I can remember I think I mean. I mean, it was Sony wasn't. No, I don't it sightedness diagnosis. Okay. But you're right because they they they also did he made like three D DO and like Sega CD games. I think right. Those absolutely correct. Okay. Blake can you tell me the names of the two brothers that started rare and for half a point for the other half a point? Can you tell me the name of their first game they shipped? No, I really can't. The stamper. Brothers yet. Kristen sam. Yeah. Kristen. That's it that one sort of it, very obvious the, but what what was the first game that they did it's chat pack, how about this. What is the system that they specialized in working with rare? What was the system that rare was such an expert in that literally launched the entire company wasn't a Silicon Graphics this? She I. Now that would I guess. Honestly, I would appeared as GI. Okay. Well, that was the Sinclair's the spectrum. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. I was just I guess I was thinking about like, whatever they were using when they were making them, super Nintendo games. Which was I was the FBI, but Blake would Nobel, obviously. I are we have one more bonus question. We'll just start this out to whoever can get this Sega had a very famous commercial beaching a dog and black and light could either view. Remember, the lines of that very famous commercial or the punch lines. That commercial it started with if you're colorblind I q of less than twelve you would care which portable you had Brian like, right? You would have if only sixteen colors or something, right? Right. And that was the punchline. Christina. Now. I don't I don't know the exact wording put I believe it was something like, but then you'd also be drinking out of the toilet. Yes. Yes. Guide. Great job. Great job. I was accounting. So is this time with tie, but the tokens Christina because definitely all these things this. He's the winner. No, no, no. That was that was hard like that was hard. And it's been awhile since I've read the book, but no, that's good. Now. I want to go back up to watch it YouTube like real of all the old Seca ads like like the one with like the fat kid with a booger hanging out of his nose. You know, like player these play those on PBS during ghost rider, which always struck me as. Yeah. Like remember, it struck me as like edgy that like a PBS would take money from Sega and those ads anyway, also, I should automatically lose for not remember the Stampe brothers because that's like at least anyone should know that. And that's just a real. So I I can see. No, no, no, no. No, no. I also think it's because I I said earlier today at the at the book signing that you know, when I see counselors I by by first instinct is always like when I see in a bookstore. Like, oh, I want to read that book looks. I remember that. I now I actually should probably just read it as we get to great freaking book is is it still getting made into is still getting adapted. Is that still happening? Yeah. I was I was studying so it is being made now into television series instead of a movie, which I much better. Heck, yeah. And we have awesome writer, Microsoft, Leo. An awesome director joining Jordan Voight Roberts stayed Cosco island in for the first time, you might entire phone career included the ten years, I was a fellow screenwriter while trading commodities subs actually moving like things are happening fast. And that's good. And then also me and by longtime collaborator Jona tulips who've been working on the documentary in partnership with those guys that's also moving along. And I was going to say that instead of. Those commercials. I should send you some clips because you will probably use them. Are you kidding me? I would like I would die like my favorite stream some of this clips, it's really good stuff. We'll thank you so much Blake for joining us in staying out late. I you are literally about to get kicked out of this book store. If I'm not wrong. He's at the best bookstore in New York City is like really this is where I bought so many of the formative books in my life that it was like one of those moments, and I signed it in the the book to the events were like this was like, wow, I I've made it moments like that. Strands tell us where people can find you online. And where you're next signing is going to be if there's going to be one. So I'm going to the bay area and in Intel a next week. And I'll post the times Dayton locations of that. But you can find me on Twitter at late you Harris NYC, and as outta knows and wants beyond I pretty much fun to everything good or bad. You know? I I remember when I said earlier that whether it's the Oculus store your second intendo story. I think it's like a. I think that when you become the custodian of other people's stories, you have a responsibility to take care of those stories until I always try to answer anything. And I just wanted to. Thank you guys. I don't make for having me on. But also just for being very open minded. There was a large period of time where I was working on this book, and because Palmer lucky was perceived as such a terrible person. I literally thought going through my career and still persist it because I thought it was important. And I I you know, it's still early remains to be seen. But like, at least people have been reading with an open mind. And that's all that I would ask. So I really appreciate you guys having me on and talking about non-political related stuff related to him in the book. Well, I I I've said this before I help people read this. It is definitely more of far more complicated picture than the press put out there. They also say I feel like I'm a unique position to say. Just how much political speech ten thousand dollars full give you. I feel I feel like people might be arrested in the effects of that on the twenty sixteen election. So anyway, thank you for coming on French and also debt that was a great game, obviously an embarrassment, but that was. Why I love you? So I'm very glad we've been friends this past for years, and I'm super psyched about the rest of the book. Yeah, we're gonna finish up on the strip try spend. Sometimes my aunts been to shop book. So there it is. All right. Thank you so much Blake what did juicy conversation and a juicy trivia game. Well, folks have got news for you. So good. Are there sponsor today? This episode of rocket is rats. You buy water cooler trivia, the folk lot of cooler trivia are here to spruce up life at the office. They said weekly quizzes by Email to you and your colleagues to spark some good spirited competition, which we've already had on this show. So breathe your questions were really hard. 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That is eight weeks of totally free office fund Goto water, cooler trivia dot com slash rockets rights now now, no thank you so much water cooler trivia for your support of rocket and all of relay F M. All right, folks. Let's talk about what we're doing this week brianna, please tell us what you're doing enough holding my phone this week. That's something. I'm not doing. Well. I'm here to stay this week. I'm enjoying a break before I got back and spend the next month with the new person we're higher onto our teen to be our financial person. So enjoying some time with my husband before going back to eighty hour week hell. Yup. That's what I'm up to this week. How about you me? I am finishing up my video on pinball history, which I'm super excited about oh, that's awesome. I know it's been so flipping fun to do and like really put in like the effort to make it super super beautiful, and then I'll be getting back to where on my video about the year. Two thousand nine is not included in your pinball games in your pinball thing, it's more about pinballs reputation. And how it kind of tarnished video games reputation hung interesting. Yeah. Let's lake Blake's next book now that he's conquered. Both like the peak console period because I think we can all agree that like the sixteen bit console wars. Like, it was like the the definitive time gaming, and and be are like he should go back and like talk about the. With a pinball. I'm not even joking that Genesis late. I'm like dude Blake to a pinball book. I yeah. I didn't want to ask him. Like, hey, what's your next thing since he literally worked for three years on this? And it just came out. But I am so excited to find out what his next thing eventually hit it should be pinball. I think it should be pinball. Now that that's awesome. I can't wait to see your video. Heck? Yeah. All right. And I'm so I'm not traveling, which is amazing. And that's really all I have to say, so I don't travel until the fifth or sixth of March. I'm gonna do like a two day trip. And then I'll be in boulder. One day it'll be in Vegas the next day. And then we back home. And then I, but I don't I don't have a a long trip until the seventeenth. So I'm really happy not traveling. And but I do miss Australia because Australia, you guys if you haven't been everybody listens to talk. If you live there. Congratulations. You live in the best place on the planet. And I wanna go back. I haven't been replaced in the planet. But but like, it's it's many favorite place. So I am missing Australia, but also happy. Okay. Oh, also, also, I missed this. I was almost sucked into a riptide and. Yeah. Yeah. So I just got the tide was stronger than I thought it might have been. And I thought that I was like spleen backwards and swing back, and I got out further than I should have in my colleague Jason hand helped get me. But then really took the the the bond I lifeguards on their little power thingies to come out, and and pull me up and and take me to safety. I'm fine. You're okay, Christina you've gig into near death experiences. I or card nearly crushes you now riptide ocean. Like, this is like the movie final destination. No. I know. But you know, but like, it's a great story. I'm fine. It's good. I got safe by hot lifeguards. It's okay. It's all right. No. I do be careful if you're out there. I just got further out than I should have. And literally my worst nightmare. I'm really glad you're okay. You're back. I'm glad you had a good time in Australia. Also, I'm just going to say in shout out to the great lifeguards at bonday. But like, this is why you should go to a really beautiful, but really busy beach because they have people like on it. I am about forty guys are first watercooler trivia quiz. But more importantly, thank you so much for listening. This episode of rockets if you enjoyed it please do review it on apple podcasts or wherever podcasts are reviewed and consider sharing it with your friends. So that they can take a listen to and then he again so much Blake for showing up and spilling the T about Oculus. I really enjoyed that. I super super interested in all of the knowledge that lives in your brain. All right feeling. Good feeling. Great. This episode of rocket is terminated Terminator terminated.

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45. SouthWest/East Division Breakdown: 2/7-2/14

Big Fellas Basketball

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45. SouthWest/East Division Breakdown: 2/7-2/14

"Welcome to gen hoops today. Would you are southwest division expert. Curtis johnson Down the past week of nba action for the grizzlies. Maverick spurs pelicans and rockets. Courtesy grizzly with the injury bug a little bit over the last few days on. Have you seen them able to maintain their the the high level play. They had in the in the weeks prior continued their high level of play Obviously injuries arc learn to fart. They would finish the week one in. Today's snap their lose against the charlotte. Hornets joss playing. Good he finished. Fifth all-star voting for the second. Release that they just released. The jumped backfired. Donald mitchell lead them deaths behind. He still shouldn't well from three. Forty eight percent from three yoenis has been planned. Extremely wilson's come back from the health and safety protocols Last regains man. Y'all recorded to double doubles yet. A twenty twenty game against the raptors and grace announced implant of good as well since he's come back from health and safety protocols Last regains he's averaging eighteen points while shooting fifty percent from three. Gotta start against the lakers on. Espn play whale right now. The last regains An eighteen point. So if you're looking for fantasy pickup crazy may be especially with the injury bug ending the grizzlies until someone other gods get back in the lineup. Race may be a solid thick and but the grizzlies. They notably basketball avenue. No nonsense employers healthy vailable right now but I expect special. Everybody gets back to going long. They think they will maintain. I think they're gonna continue to level of play. Everton puertas healthy nonsense players long as they can continue this level of play and You know they you know long as they continue their level of play You know they only have. Tim healthy players at the moment. So nonsense players healthy available to go on the game days I think they're going to continue level of plate at their plan. Be able to stay up middle of the pack. You know not twenty like eight to ten seed right now. But i do believe once they get their roster back they're gonna make competitive push a go straight up on rankings in the conference exciting stuff over there for the grizzlies and moving over to the mavericks there on a four game win streak but early in the season we also. I'm struggling offensive. Rating was way lower than it was last year where they were the best offensive all time in terms of offensive rating. I'm sorry It looks back to playing winning basketball. Would you say that's true. Definitely talent is my favorite thing that i'm excited about. Cover seem since that. A golden state game on a four game win streak. They're playing winning basketball again. Like they were at the bubble lot of momentum Luga he finished second in the western conference all star voting for the ended today. Well with some of the coaches voted. So he probably be starting with steph curry and the backboard you know. He had another impressive week. He has forty six points against the pelicans any at a triple double against halsey leased mea. Right now triple doubles tim. Hardaway still providing a spark off the bench. Like i knew he would actually look for him to make a run at six man if he continues this roll off the bench. I ll mega man with jordan. Clarkson in shape. Milton anna chris boucher. I expect the onslaught expect hardwood immigration. The sixth man of the year right. Now he's a averaging seventeen point game for rebounds to assess a while shooting last three soon forty five percent from three alex for him to make a run to the six man with jordan. Clarkson show milton in chris boucher off the toronto raptors and christoph he Had another solid week Very excited about that. Last regains evidence of twenty six points rebounds while shooting fifty two percent from three and the game. They are one against the pelicans. He was t very key in ad. Having a breeze against the pelicans. I believe they're going to continue to trend in the right direction and i definitely seen a moving up the western conference in possibly gins at a six or five seen. Maybe a little higher saw. We'll see how they go without decide about them. Playing basketball and definitely luca may get back in the mvp conversation sooner rather than later. Exciting stuff in coolest job. Things are looking up for the conference. A whole and moving over to the rockets though they haven't on a four game losing streak since losing kushner. What even on a roll before that Do you see them being able to turn this around before he comes back. That's one to say up. Alex expecting a lot more production on demarcus cousins. He hasn't really been playing well in wolf absence. He's averaging eleven points seven rebounds in the last three games. Not giving me what. I gotta hill especially being a started playing with john wall and they've been hit with the injury bug as well a little bit and they had a couple of guys do arrest as a john. Wall missed his achilles rehab erik. Gordon missed the day rests than the deep while he missed the game because of a right quad injury. These guys i think the key for damage definitely for numbers. Just gonna be healthy. Because they have a lot of guys and stuff to prove in a john wound martinez and victoria depot coming off. A you know major surgery over the years you on the last day. While he's averaging twenty one points. Five rebounds seven assists a nineteen points on the year four rebounds six assists East bill bland. You know pretty good. But i think the key for them a christian was going to be key for him to get back whenever he comes back. I think he's still week He's a young guy and plan at center. Position at person would is a keeping them to extract may need him back sooner rather than later. They're going to make a push for the a try to be in western conference and try to get one of those last between eighteen. Seventy seven t end to try to get the Play in if they are one to make the playoffs this year. Awesome think how christian would have been able to be such a key contributor to nba team. Do not being that until this year. But how about the pelicans. They looked at they. Wanna roll awhile back. And what are you seeing from them now. I think he's just one of those things where you know you want some some games in a row. You're getting your mo jo and You know just you know. Lose their on to gain loses for right now and efficient week one into a different spectrum to start back winning sooner rather than later the tanks starting to buy into. Uh stan van gundy system. I do believe on a save for two weeks to come lonzo ball. Expect prefer them last regains. He's he's avenue. Sixteen points six rebounds six assists. They're starting to look more like his numbers from last year with post. Alvin gentry on your exact fourteen points. Five rebounds five assists you know. Think lonzo starting to get a little more comfortable in stan. Van gundy's offense and he's going to be the extract for them's lonzo's knocking down threes. I believe they're gonna want a lot of games when he's misunder not as a team as they should be a zion. He finished six all star voting for the The second go round. Averaging twenty four point seven rebounds three assists they also have another guide as a on the board and brandon ingram. He ranked ninth in all star voting for front four players He's averaging twenty four points this year. Six rebounds five assists and It's interesting fact. The josh far had a career high seventy rebounds in their winningest rockets. He's averaging eight rebound right now. That's pretty good for a guard and up. I think the pelicans starting today they play the fitness. Tonight is definitely one game and i do it. Set them to win today and you know them to try to get on the streak again and get things back going. I think another key thing as well Jackson hazies a been vitual. Whatever reason and nara william gomez took his minnesota rotation saints that. They've been playing well more with him in jackson. Hayes was no knock congested as nothing. He's a good talented has a lot of potential We gomez just playing a better right now with the rotation. And he's avenue right now. He's to six points six rebounds off the bench coming in behind. Stephen adams another goddess rebound or. Get it out to shooters type of guy and a charter for them. The space the floor. So but i do believe like i said pelicans They're going to get back on winston sooner rather than later and Right now i think if they continue as love and lonzo Teams level of play like last year with alvin. Gingery the team when he was playing that this day will make playoffs this year. That's gonna be a tight playoff. Push night in this western college. Especially when you have divisions like this that are so loaded but obviously momentum huge for a the pal so young and and still trying to figure out their identity closing us up for the week. What's going on. What are you still going on with the spurs. Do something going on a similar run spurs Shop meet issue especially no the aldridge out another key piece Good veteran player. You know the spurs. They went to a one this week. They're currently in sixth place in the western conference. I knows what it'd be looking at some of the you know conference rankings. But they're sitting in six place. I definitely when the solving nair if you actually disliked two three weeks ago you know right now. They're ranked ninth in deficient defensive rating in the nba. Do believe that's plan kia. Nem actually win a lot of games. You know dhamar planks stellar over the last three games. He's averaging thousand eight points eight assists and five rebounds on the season season. He's averaging twenty points and five rebounds. I believe tomorrow's gonna be keefer him a stay at that spot or you know be contenders in the west. I do believe the more plays will like this. I do think lamarcus aldridge is traded. Maybe at the deadline for more young is a special. Like i said the mark and keep them at this level of play. You get rid of the markets. Won't you know maybe get a draft. Which was something for him. John murray he continues to play well to Over the last week seventeen points four assists six rebounds on the season. Fifteen onset rebounds five assists. He's continues to play well. And like i say i'll spurs disppointed their for me wrong. And i think the martyr rosen will be able to hold down before no if lamarcus does come back keep monitoring but i do believe remark. Mark may be used as a trade bait at the deadline to get a draft. It's maybe young to a team to build a safe for years to come with us. They're going to need some a young players in notre dame they're white he's a starting now and they put it on onto bit soul. I think you guys should keep terrified on your fantasy under. We hasn't played well. And i think the last two regains. But i do think Derek whyte is up. The player and smile wants to step off the bench. You admit fence so it'll be interesting to see. How the spurs playing this week. But we'll see how things go and tomorrow's give the same at a high level of play. Welcome to gen z hoops. Today we're joined by south east division expert. Spencer frank here to break down the past week of nba action for the hawks. Heat pointed magic and wizards spencer. What from the hawks over this last week. So the hawks way and three this week and puts them on a three game losing streak and also dropped them to third in the southeast just over the past couple of weeks talking about how well this team was doing an off to a hot start in the young promising team but it seems that they've hit a wall. At this point there are eleven and fifteen overall and just three and seven in the last ten games and the biggest thing that stands out to me is their struggles in the fourth quarter. They do go in a fourth quarter with some leads a lot but tend to blow them late in games and i really think you can just chalk that up to the team being young and they don't know how to close how to win and close games yet in the fourth quarter. I think some that they'll start to do a better job at as the season goes on but It could take its toll on their playoff chances but this team is a team that is just one year way if not this year of getting in the playoffs and making some noise so if they can figure out that fourth quarter struggle and figure out a way to close games. I think they'll be just fine. How about over. Miami war defending eastern conference champions at the bottom of the things to make a resurgence. What do you see there. Yeah definitely making a resurgence. They were able to go to in one this week but if you look at their last five games they've won four out of the last five so that's a huge bright spot with them and they're starting to get some of their injured players back in towards more of a well rounded healthy roster. The biggest thing that stands out to me with the heat right now is that they lead the league in turnovers per game. But i really distinct. That's because how many different lineups they've had to have out there on the floor with guys being injured guys getting covid having a call guys up from the g. league so i really think once they now that they're back to this full healthy roster that have a more consistent rotation and be able to limit those turnovers another thing that stands out to me with the he is there balanced scoring. They've seven guys. Averaging double figures similar balanced to last year but it just shows how deep of a team they are which is a huge weapon in the playoffs and bam and butler and jimmy butler lead that the seven guys with nineteen points per game. So if one of those guys is ever having an off night you can always defer to the next guy that'll being said spencer. What are you. What are their playoff chances looking like do you see them kind of making cimarron last week. Yeah right now. they're tied with division. The division opponent atlanta hawks at eleven and fifteen and that puts both of them right behind the eighth seed toronto raptors in the eastern conference. But i think now that they are healthy. It'll give him a chance to make up some games. They do have a big month of february with a couple of weeks last having to make up some games that were postponed especially this week. They got a big week ahead. They're going on their west coast. Trip and three out of four games are against the clippers. Golden state in the lakers. So i think if they can win maybe two out of those three games Not only will look good in their win column. But it'll be a big confidence boost for playoff-caliber team to beat some high caliber western conference teams. They would definitely for the child's lascaux. Beat it will be interesting to see what they do this year. Get some western conference competition on. How about over in orlando where they've been kind of on and off all year now. They're almost there but found executing games. Yeah the magic win one and two on the week and ever since their hot start they started off for no this year. They've never really been able to get back on track and we're kind of seeing their playoff hopes slipping away. They really are struggling to finish games. Like you said. And i think that's mostly because they lack there go to score they have seven losses by only single digits and i think come fourth quarter time in those close games. They don't really have anyone that can create their own shod or they can just give up the ball in isolation play when they need a bucket. You haven't Rich but he's not the most effective guy off the dribble so i really think they're lacking that go to score. I don't really see them climbing. Back in the playoff contention unless they really start to turn it around and are able to string a lot of wins together. How 'bout the charlotte hornets. Who recently took the southeast division crown. On what what are you seeing from them and do you think they're for real. Yeah they went to and one this week and it did take over the number one spot in the division like you said and they also have a good challenge in the upcoming week against san antonio denver golden state three well rounded teams. That could really give them a challenge. I do think they are the real deal. I think they will end up in the playoffs this year. And maybe give team run for their money. One thing that i loved was terry rozier. You're having a great week scoring the ball with devante graham out lamelo and terriers you have to pick up that slack for the guards and he put a forty one and thirty four and two different games this week and another big thing. That's getting a lot of social media. Hype is miles bridges and lamelo balls connection on the court official yet but they do have the nickname airbnb circulating around on twitter. I'm all for. I think those guys have a great connection especially in transition which makes her some gray highlights. Speaking of lamelo he had a career. Best three point shooting night against the rockets hitting seven threes And he's really looking good now that he's starting with graham being out think he's starting to gain some more confidence especially shooting the ball and if he keeps us play. I think he's got the rookie of the year. Where locked up sounds like. Everything's really turnaround for the hornets. At just the right time to make a push right in the middle part of the season how do you see their playoff odds stacking up. Yeah so currently there. Six seed in the east. And i think they could end up if they hold the around that spot and make the cut. They could end up matching up with a team like boston. Indiana and i really think the hornets could be a potential six seven six or seven game series and give it team a run for their money in the first round. I think their ability to score with their three guards could really give teams some trouble. Defensively and i think they're just a fan favourite. Everybody wants to see in the playoffs. Especially with lamelo ball being rookie. I think people would love to see what he can do in the playoffs. And it'd be exciting for them to make the first round. This year spent clothing things with the wizards. They've been winning games recently. And i'm curious. Do you see any changes as to account for why. They're winning games now. So the wizards went to two on the week. They had a really good win against the celtics and the biggest thing that stood out to me was that they held them to ninety one points and the celtics normally average one hundred ten points per game throughout the past few weeks. I've talked about the wizard struggle on the defensive end so i really think this game was a defensive breaks for them and we'll see if they're able to build off that besides that they continue to just be average i think and they can't afford it this season and they can't afford that at this point in the season and they got be able to string more than two wins together in a week. Another interesting thing is that the wizards are foreign three without russell. Westbrook and three and fourteen with him. This isn't a huge deal but at this point in the season it is something to pay attention to how the team continues to struggle with westbrook on the floor. Another struggle for them continues to be on the defensive end and they're still stuck in the last spot in points allowed per game. I really think at this point. They're probably going to be taking the approach to develop younger guys. Someone like a ryuhachi myrrha and maybe even see them. Start to tank for a draft pick. That could help them in the future years.

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Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter Ordered By The WBOPorter DELETES POST Does He Want The Fight

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Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter Ordered By The WBOPorter DELETES POST Does He Want The Fight

"Acids intended for mature audiences abused opinions. Expressed are those of the panelists should not reflect in any way. Those are the podcast partners. Sponsors or affiliates enjoy this is michael buffer and you're listening to the voice of the people. Let's get ready for boxing voice everyday hustle and bustle in hustle hustle and bustle impossible hustle and bustle in hustle and bustle in every day. I'm hustling every day. I'm hustling every day. Come working production win loose inflatable. Watch me articulate special compaq in the big deal and you're fighting to add. I can't get a table ended the day grain production Morning b v. Welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another fantastic morning edition. Thank the box. God's think the wbz. Oh but. I'm not sure that you should be thinking. Heyman sean magically deleting his tweet showing such excitement for this it's got me feeling like maybe this ain't happening. I'm just being real. You know as i'm setting up for this show terence crawford and the facts are terence crawford versus shawn porter ordered by the wb. Oh but puerto deletes. His cellar tori his. I dunno expressing his excitement for this fight. He deletes that post. And that just sent all sorts of conspiracy vibes down than little ears in the back of my neck men and when i did some research on my own channel the wbo's been ordering terrence grove. Is sean puerto. Since two thousand seventeen we did a show is that we say no fucking. What for years and they've never been able to get an ordered. Wbo fight between these two in two thousand seventeen. We said the wto is likely to order. Porter and crawford fast forward all those years porter and crawford are connected but never a fight. We're talking about four years. The i the first time the first time. This podcast made an episode about the w. b. o. Ordering terence crawford and sean porter was in two thousand and seven teen. Just say. I don't know that this is going to happen. You know. i've seen this last night. I said yes. We got our topic for the morning. This is gonna be exciting but it got depressing as you've done the research and you see this is been a linkage between these two men for very long i know been long winded. I just wanna to go ahead and say because i announced his very very special news on border wars episode yesterday every wednesday at seven. Pm eastern so it might went under the radar but as you can see on our thumbnail to the left. Showdown in eight town is going down. Because there's going to be stream live right here to the box voice dot com or rather should i say youtube dot com slash the box voice but we got a big opportunity at the big leagues. You know some of these other big channels. They've stream fights we see. I fell. you know they did that. Have an empty k. Global car. While his i turn and we're also going to be doing commentating live from atlanta in august fourteenth but the beauty of this. I mean yesterday. I was crying. I'm just gonna be real like because i can't believe it again. This was a hobby fulltime business. Now and i'm calling lorenzo truck simpson's like we've been talking about trump all time and i'm telling you i'm being told tanks going to show up so i get to call the fight. We now take sees me as the commentator. There's going to be a whole different level. Second understand you know. Darren cunningham reached out to me. That's crazy so you know. This is just an amazing amazing opportunity for the box voice. Podcast to continue to to expand the resume. We get to call renzo truck simpson's fi. We get to call henry martinez. That's a ken porter of fighter. We talk about out. Can port assigned can be in a building can port against the see me and the evolution of i mean this is this is just. It can't get any better. They can't get any better darren cunningham the gif. He is a d. Hp fighter so maybe bill and devon show of devon showed up the last time and then you got cash from a contender is on. I mean listen. Sky is the limit. I just wanna. I just wanna thank every single. Listen to the tunes in every single day is only because a you that we are starting to take those steps forward upward. You know the trajectory starting point in that way. But it's because of the love the support that you guys been showing through the many many years you know and you know i'm not mad. I'm not mad that it's happening now because we got it through the mud. You know straight through the mud and i love. Atl they love is more than tank. I mean this'll be our march two in july three hundred so four. This'll be our fifth tom. And that's crazy now. I've gotta push to brought the vegas like what's up. You know me. I gotta get out that atlanta box. I need to go to vegas but once again. tb the will be in atlanta showdown in town august fourteenth huge names on his card huge names. Lorenzo truck simpson. And and you know better than me if you truck fan. If you will take thing you would know that. He's never missed the truck fight. That's the word on the street. No he never misses a truck fight so he beat it. Oh oh okay. Darren soto Okay let's do this. This is a beautiful car. This is a beautiful you know forward. Step for the box and voice so gentlemen. Because i don't even know that these guys they barely check the taxes and shit like that. But we've been promoting on instagram. Since last night when we got the final association when when that check clear nothing. We're not gonna see the wears. He didn't by those who don't make get what up doe wounds is now co host for team already know with me. Man is tv. Mica shut out the whole tbb family waking up with us already. Know man I i mean. I'm just i'm elated. It's it's been a long time coming man years and years like necessarily from the mud so we're for all the support that you guys have showed us for sure and You know what. Can what else can i say. I'm excited for this august. Fourteenth as detailed lee explained and and and and and described this event. It's just going to be a phenomenal. A lot of big names might show up is just. It's just crazy. It's crazy like when you're doing you'll love sometimes i it doesn't feel like like Like you're working but when you re at this level where we've reached right now after even commentating. What the tristar. Boxing south park promotion. It was just a different field man. It feels like we're getting there. And i'm really happy man. I'm really really happy but allies on beauty. Oh go ahead talk topic or now you sound you sound like you in a radio under under tunnel shit brother. Hey i i. I was afraid of that. I didn't get to do a what's called before i came on. I'm a reset. i'll be right on top. He's terrorist offers versus john puerta. Oh year you know. They had a little secret meeting a they. Were supposed to be talking about a fight. Maybe maybe not happening you know. They had this kind of in a suspense for a while. And then it happened so now we're back at it again but this time you know you kinda gotta do it right nine for a long time. I can't believe i'm gonna. I'm gonna just go ahead and go to this. You know like we cover this. We cover the sport every day. Terence and bud. That's a that's a sexy name the fact that we've never done that i mean the fact that we've done that for years ago that's crazy crawford moved up in two thousand seventeen. Is that when he became a welterweight assign well when that that lines up pretty close. Yeah you good okay. Yeah that that lines up. Perfect two thousand seventeen two thousand sixteen he unified with postal molina then fought felix dias the super light then julius odongo jeff born in two thousand eighteen so june two thousand eighteen. So it's close. I mean it was probably the announcement came after the dongo fight. But yeah listen. That's a great fight. But i'll be honest with you like i'm in the same kind of boat in that like i'll believe it when i see it type of thing. And it has nothing to do with the fighters i know sean porter person not personally like no man. But i've met him a couple times got to speak with him a few times and i've followed his career. I mean as long as i can remember back when he was fine. Friday night fights or show box or whatever he was on and a demi is not scared to fight nobody. I know that first and foremost he's not scared to fight nobody. He's not afraid to lose he. He's he's not afraid. Terence crawford knows he's the best in the world and he might be right so he's of course not afraid to fight you buddy but it's like we've been down this road too many times. Oh man you're saying we've heard too many names and it's just like oh we you you know you need more people. It's just it's just the bottom line through your the timing on. This is Thirty days and that's what august twenty it and that's what that's what that's what he deleted. I got a screen shot. So i'll send it to the show but he deleted that he say clock's ticking clock starts now but he deleted that sweet and i just wanna know why why or is everything being deleted. Why does everything have to get taken down. Why can't you guys just be you. Why why is your first reaction. Always the wrong reaction according to your teams 'cause it's like they do something and ready to his own. Take dushan now. You can say that. Oh you can't do that. You can't pose that you. What the fuck could you does a lot. There's a lot of pr betting going on. It's insane already. It's crazy to me. But i'm just i'm just being is now. What is it if if they if they can't come to an agreement. This state goes to a purse bid. Yes now what is why. Avoid the person. Why don't you want it to go to purse. Bid if you're al you're going to have to give Poured excuse me Terrence sixty percent of the bid. So you know maybe negotiate a better do if you just go in and is like look. Give this you know. Or i'll give terrence this at the end of the day if you can't negotiate with them. What whoever wins the champion get sixty percent. But that's better for porter. He gets forty percent. Whereas bob only wanted to give him a million and a million isn't forty percent of the revenue. You know what i'm saying so for. It's better to go to purse bid because they know bob is a bit of a you know a little bit. You know tightening negotiations. He'd given out no money. He made that clear. But i just wanna scream. Shit is so you can see the nbs man like we've been doing this and a look. The first puerto show was made twenty four twenty seven. Seen the next puerta crawford show was august seventeenth. Twenty-seven seen then it died out for two years straight die so like you know it says right there. Puerto withdraws from the fight with crawford in august. So i don't know you know we've been. We've been talking about this for a while. And maybe that when puerto withdraw probably imported for you know a term in danny or something like that which was obviously a little bit more of a recognized welterweight at the time. But the fact that we've been talking about this for this long thousands of us on this topic four straight years on this topic and no fight. It's crazy you know. I wouldn't even get caught up in the length of time. We've been talking about it. i would. I would focus more on the seriousness throughout that duration. And i might be a little hazy on the time line. But i do remember somewhere right for are not before kobe but Somewhere during kovic when it seemed like we might have a timeframe to get fights back the crawford porter lynn gossip was it was out there and it was big time and it seemed like they were heading towards a fight. It really did. I pretty sure the fact that pack was still in the mix hurt the chances of that fight being made and i'm pretty sure that packie outgoing the spence route help. The odds of our helps the odds of this fight. Getting done terence crawford who is repeatedly called one of the best if not the best pound for bound fighters in the world. Even his supporters are starting to talk the same kind of talk. His detractors have talked for years in terms of who he's fighting and if he's fighting premier opponents so i think all lends itself to the same idea that he might be feeling the pressure. Bob certainly feeling the pressure after the bullshit he spoke and puertas just a guy who's willing to fight everybody orders just so smart. He knows at the end of his career. He is going to be on a list. That is very short in terms of coup. Fought the names that he's already thought you know. If he never secures himself a mayweather fight he will have done basically the next best thing in that division by attempting to beat all the names that came out of that division in his era. So terence crawford is one of the last guys on that chopping block you know and you know it's a good ass fight terence crawford shop puertas always been a good fight but again like you said when you when you when you first came in on it man. It's like i don't know if it if it happens. You know i is it. Wbo pressure enough to make this happen. And i just don't know is there is there is but this is what you got. This is where the conspiracy comes in. Did alcatel puerto take down. Because you don't want him showing excitement. Because you don't want bob trying to raise the purse bid because bob can be. Bob can get hard on the negotiations. Let the thirty days expire and bid. He didn't win the t. o. Bid but it doesn't mean he didn't learn his lesson so i think on top of that idea. I think the other ideas that you know. They don't want to go any direction without having some sort of firm concrete negotiations and if they set it up in media because like that was like these guys were already a victim of this fight before. And i'm specifically talking about terence crawford. Terence crawford was so close before his fight with brooke till landing a porter fight and a pack yao fight and closest relative right a relative. We don't know exactly what close means in that sense. But it was close enough that they were options. So then once brooks name was announced because porter seemed almost inevitable to a certain degree and because pack yellen thurman and all these big names were there. Brooke was so much more of a letdown. You know it it it eat like was a kind of what's that old saying is like a juke or nose like a like he got him with the With the with the okeydoke without coq right and they got us with that okeydoke and we didn't appreciate it and and fans were very very upset at it and it was really hard for that promotion to gain. Traction so could be that. Y'all listen don't put anything out until because we don't want to let people down. We don't want people that short. Trump is bystanders crawford and then ended up being somebody outside the top ten also also the conspiracy could be simply the conspiracy could be simply porter realized. Damn i just gave everybody content. Let me snatch that content bat. And now i'm hearing that. He's got a special puerto way podcast. So he's probably just going to regurgitate what he said in his tweet or or we find out why he took down the tweet. We find out that. Oh gosh al got another route for me. you know. They took too long. We wanted this fight. you know. We wanted despite but now al got another route. Because i could've sworn reporters say he was going to be announcing his opponent on his podcast a week ago. Now all of sudden he's gone quiet. I was are how aware was he of. Wbo's plans according to his initial tweet. He said this came as a surprise. But i got a surprise for the community. 'cause you can't do no crawfish show without his fucking attorney. Show up mike boss. Oh my us slipping in their keep them. He's drinking is ready. get ready. look. I got some good limited going on man shit but a porter in crawford. I mean this pretty much what everybody wanna right and everybody been talking about everybody but like a why. Why not aisha or now. South florida has the opportunity to to make that happen. Honestly we look at it. It's not on bobby out. Terence cropper or two i set whatever percentage that mandatory get. Some orders is willing to do that. I think we have a fight. But i don't know if south florida willing to do that dose of i talk about it more but was going on. Mike who do you think i'll go ahead. No i was just gonna say carpenters. Tweet indicates that if they don't come to an agreement in thirty days they go to purse bid champion sixty. So if i'm sean. I wanted to go to purse bid. I want forty percent. I want that audie forty sixty forty. That's while the fury did like sixty forty sounds decent. You know he got the bell. I don't. I've been on a pay per view. Maybe they're trying to get a little more shawn's been on pay per view. Maybe trying to sit down with bob and say let's put this on pay per view you know before we go to person. Can't we make a deal where we could put this on paper you. Let's try to maximize this. Why should we argue for thirty days when we negotiate for thirty days. Put this on paper. You get the five fans what they want. I think the best shot though is the negotiations. I think if we see this fight the best shot is going to be the negotiations. And the only reason why i say that is because we seen in the last like five years top rank and their their strategy their approach to purse bids And this isn't all about trailer and what they did but that still another rent monkey wrench thrown into the equation. You know what happened with. Fema should have been kind of like an eye opener to bob like. You can't just shit on your best stars and then expect them to fight for peanuts and they're not that millions or peanuts but you trying to say so. I do think that the best shot is for them. Negotiate to everybody get what they want as opposed to an all out referral purse bid. Where everybody's trying to bid for fight and again. What does that person that wins. It gets in the same exact situation that we're in with gop. We've seen what happened there. There's more than innuendo to suggest that bob's kind of pulling strings you know if the negotiation is the best route. I'm just thinking of shop. Puerto right supporting the past two million dollars with a to five bucks. Cropper was insult. And he wouldn't do it. So i'm i thanking bob arum maybe hers or whoever else i don't. I'm not sure that our heyman is able to or be willing to win that first bit he he. He's not in for wilder Got into fight with very done. It for earl. Spencer got in the five with is is our heyman within to do it for reporter. I'm not convinced that he is lying. Got this way. I think at this point. I'm sorry i just want a little thing. I think at this point. This is our opportunity. He's like damn well. I got guys with the bill. I got earl with the belt. This is an opportunity to put a little bait on the hook and see. Can we get the wbo champion. The by not only that. It's an opportunity to get that belt before the contract expires. The contract expires now. You've got to pay out the wad sue for crawford. He already had a three point. Five two five million dollars guarantee going to be out here like yo pay me so why not send one in your gladiators into try to rip that title from us. The level of confidence in Irwin a wider is and importer especially look match up orders opponent. Do you think are heyman says. No what son i believe in you don. I believe you can beat bug crawford. No i'm gonna put whatever whatever money to be. Put up to win that. We are having to go through that for short. I don't think he gives a. I don't know that he needs to win it though. Yeah i don't think it's forty percent all you gotta do is go to purse bid yet win is what you get when you you know up that price to win comes from you. Know the the money and the most like maximizing the potential profit the potential income. That's where his w cons like puertas legacies written in the stars. He's the man that fought them all and never ever got fucking demolished so let piggyback right. Did that's another reason. Why i think i will send two minutes like my komo women who else kapoor do a pay per view at this point. Everybody's taught up. Maybe he could do sign if if a wins the bell and now he beat out a legend in down the line exactly right now today in the next ninety days this the only pay per view for porter his nine poor you re to go in house too but think about it. Think about it when they have belts. They was on free tv. Now you're gonna put them keith off a two year layoff and put off a loss. You're gonna put him my view be but you know they in other looks like it's going to go to fox and because of spence impact. Yeah my mike. No his pack. Y'all look like it's going to go to. I mean because we know that's going to be to everything because we know looks like kamilo. Plant is going to end up on fox. I don't think they have the. I don't think that gets put on paper view. I should give already. A bubble glows seek it out based on negotiate for marts. Just because you've got thirty days to make if i don't mean you guys thirty days to fight you got thirty days. They negotiate so now we come to the wbz. We got an agreement. We looking at las vegas for this fight. Can we get an extension that sabre. We is over like remember agree with you. I agree with you. I'm talking about porter. Terming if puerto farming were to be seen what no. I'm just saying that is the only pay per view in my opinion. Is puerto crawford like there's no other fight that porter point. I won't dismiss your point obviously to us off and so did ruis but ruiz's mexican heavyweight champion like. That's something never heard him. He he he. He broke the mold with that. He set president or cooler. Areola coming out with two year retirement. Whatever like that review conceal. You can't tell me that. Keep and show. Puerto could not sail. That's mexicans and guess. What ariola woods with. Both vlad amber tally and thomas academy and deontay wilder n like areolas just known in the boxing world. Sean and terence. In in in polymer lousy and adrian bro. So i got a a resume to here. No you right you right. The puerto got resume but he got a welterweight resume with not the same names. That every every for each champion. Vlad tally wild. And it's a heavyweight casuals. Know him a mexican which they don't get to be that big areola special. He was the first andy before any just never made it to questions. Prior to that paper. View andy or Areo the did i pay per view. No get who has Porter nah and crawford now. Puerto and andy one pack. Therman german middle. I just. I don't see him off a two year layoff he. He ain't listening. He got three hundred thousand followers. He don't grab the they love them. They love them. I can't wait to go see him. I know my interviews got him that job with the with the mother fucking pcs. That press conference has all comments on fight. Hi dan do needs to be accommodated. Do needs to be a key. He got a life after boxing. That being said that's where he shot him right now commentator. I don't think he ready for that. Fight the one thing. I want to enter pulling. I'd like to interject though is that it's going to be a very interesting process the next thirty days because the producer just made me realize something you got you got pack. Yao spence a august correct. Then you have canal. Oh likely for september and it is more. It's looking more and more likely that fox is gonna land that in fact. I'm pretty sure they already have. And then just waiting to make the announcement Then you have october fury wilder and tank so then like we're looking at november for this fight disown after being taken the condello fight from them. They're on their heels waiting to land something big waiting for a purse bid like this. You know what i'm saying and pbs's budget is probably stretched to the brim. I'm you looking at a tire. This on twenty eight and shit. You know what. I'm saying like that thing is stretched and if they are fighting this year which i'm assuming they would be like they're just waiting so i think it's going to be an interesting process. I think they gotta get it done in negotiations. Because i'll doesn't want this to be a situation either where it's this free for all that you know. Normally he would be able to sue puck but can't from a financial standpoint based on landing at big canola funding. We don't even know me impede yet. Here's a bit of positivity you know we're automatically assuming it's not going to happen automatically assume it's gonna go to purse bid. Maybe sean got the call. Take that down because this fight is going to happen right a day ago or two days ago crawford just put out like i'll be back real soon with the emoji. Like oh yeah he might know. They might have told them already again. he's the disgruntled employee or boss. Whatever you wanna call them. He's the one that's upset that they didn't get him to pack delphi. He should about this a lot of texas floating around on the internet. Where his words saying. I'll never re-signing you. I ain't going back so look whether those are fabricated whether he's not the public believes he's not happy as a welterweight with top rank so if now he poses i'm coming soon sh- and then the sumo's is perfect for for porter because you know we always used to fight you. Fight is like shh. Let's remember that the wbo doesn't you know they. They are for lack of a better word in bed with a degree. I mean that seems to be the belt. Top-ranked always get shots at seems to be you know the roster is completely correlates with wbo belts. Let me interject. They have some sort of insight like you said based off of that. I do want to say we might have a guest on. Joseph adorno is scheduled theory he goes. So we'll we'll handle this owner. Mr adorno how're you doing. We're doing well we're doing. Well thank you for taking the time this morning to come on a box and voice radio we appreciate you not only getting up but as a fighter man i've really i i'm lucky enough to have gotten spar gotten to see spar in east hanover. I think i've seen you there. One terrific's jim dad. You probably aren't even likes jim. Names are sleep. wake up close far for sure man. Well i do appreciate that. Left hook man. You are an undefeated. Top rank prospect or. Are you considering yourself a contender at this point. Because you are piling up the winds thing on the as my career. I'm already finding radio contender or like a fighter to away from being on contender and and just to give the proper just the proper dutch and joseph adorno sandwich bring is fourteen. And oh and two with twelve cao's okay that's a seventy five percent Percentage is from new jersey but stays in pennsylvania. His last date was four twenty four against a jemaine ortiz which ended in a majority draw. Amazing fight though mazing fight. Amazing fight seriously. Yes yes take walks through that man. Did you expect that type of a fight from jamie hymie jemaine. I thought it was to me. It's jemaine what did i say like that name or something like that. But now you're new coming in is going to be a tough sixteen month. Layoff the lose. Obosa find out two three opponents so what Didn't take the fight. One of them from anybody on title fight guy called them to fight on. The guy was wrong not not the challenge like challenged by drc twice. It's not like that title pulled out. We can fight. Who's trying to get a fights me. No i'm just telling martinez fight like sixty months. Fight ninety prospect. You can't you can't just lay back for sixteen months without doing nothing so you know the name anybody you know. I knew he was on friday on. Fighting are yeah. You know great guy to fight for fighter in the fight. So i'm sorry. I just wanted to get his thoughts since this morning. We're we're talking yesterday's big news. Wbo said that terence crawford and sean porter will be ordered to fight for that wbo bell. Do you like that. Is that something you've been waiting for as a boxing fan. 'cause we noticed that as a podcast we talked about that back in may of two thousand seventeen. I never realized it's been four years since this fight been cooking. Is this a fight. You like but it's not. It's not a fight back. I think the fans asking him. I think it's a fight that was order by logo. I don't think saying all shown. Puerto should fight crawford here specified crawford. Somebody are many you never some porter and this crazy look now. They are talking about the site. But i feel like profit communiqu. I is ranging of his generalship inside. Ring is just crazy. But what about the fact that i mean i like to say he never been in there with nobody like porta puertas a dog but i feel like a quarter. Never been there. Was somebody line. Crosser me thermos a pretty good boxer earls pretty good again come. Along in mike thurman wade different. Okay okay game. Wrong his brains his ring. General shipman's crazy though. But what about what can alaska's did he ain't porter. Unc that fight elaborate. I was there. Yeah coffee one. But that's what. I'm trying to say if that guy who isn't as accomplish experience dora boras porter can do that. I mean maybe some do what did he do. He dropped crosses. You know that you know that you think you on show power me out who you boehner. Put them down earl. Put them down with check left hooks. But that's orthodox well well landed hooks is more now imagine plus taufer sophomore world so you say Terrorists hit harder than earlier than i like. He's war around the box and everybody on the political side of it. Though is this cropper. Giving puerto the shot or puerto giving crops shop because the narrative is that you know they. Everybody wants cooperative by somebody from the bbc and he ain't got you know the opponents so but crawford's pound for pound so how do you see it champ. We froze them. He froze yeah. He got a car bed mike. I'm very goes from. You gotta go. Real quick. Seem the media over the past year and a half and seen how bob aaron talking about terrorist crawford in the media. Does that give you any kind of agra hitchin going forward dealing with top ranked knowing that if i become a big star one day that i might have these kind of problems. Do you think happens every company to be honest. I wouldn't guys. I've seen by guys so like these not understand that you're just are you saying that and i like a money making you make someone so if you're doing good and stuff they all have to decide. Something bad happens the talk about to me right now last jones. I'm a happy woman even nottage only on year. Nine hundred malani. Minute came up on the good guidance. Nab but inside of me. I'm like no no no sleepy on giving not going. They'll happy some dissolved. I'm talking about this. You got to understand the game. Let me ask you at one point and tanks career. He turned around took to social media and felt like mayweather. set him up by putting them in pellets. Rasa i did you feel that way coming off. A draw with hector and then they put in you right in there with a undefeated or did you not look at it like not in semi up. I could beat this guy. They think i could beat them to look better. My last that wants to play as i looked at it. Maybe they wanna test me this evening. They let me go. They're going to keep me. And i understand that because it's the same thing you gotta look at our business. Wise not is not like back. Then i was like i was all about the money about legal. Keep we elvis. Died over over the top rank crazy. They cut one owned by two days. Does that make you to know. Does that make you feel like damn. Maybe i do got a little favor with them because yo that boy was he. I'm dominican first of all we. I mean we was pumping him up. He was not do that. Is is wrong right but you look at you and you like i'm here with two draws. They might like me a little bit more. Nala gonna as the ones will you fight so when you're in camp though the mindset and thinking of it that way does it help you to motivate you or does it hinder over my job on the line. Like how do you see in. Can i really do hope you. Because like washing seventy five eighty percent mentally bone. If you're right believe mentally while you good good underminded all over the place. Trust home can't wrong. And that is. I want to get into something like that happened my last hand. You know you in the media stuff you know you always gotta keep it clean awesome. I'm going to go out there. And the median financing on. This is happening kin hurting bucket. Sort of hell no. I was good on the way. It is not even an up outside on camera going on with me on sold peoplesoft brandon's media and now i'm not gonna say just mop personal things but they know how i was what was going on with me last fight but when i got hit with his side simple avenue the fight move to where i got hit with. He sat in simple. Go out of town send from the people of the first one comes from coach myers. he's in connecticut. He says who is your top three current pro fighters that you would never miss their fight. Minds are spent cannella. Into how about you once i fur's okay offered answer. Show it the my own like anybody wants to one. Thirty one forty sites. Why because i go down or just like they can come up to one. Don't want to come down to thirty five. So i always keeping watch who's out there in those weights known as the shore. Nello spans causes san antonio texas jane's vow. Death says pack calver suspense. Who wins in half now onassis. Tom tongue lifespans young. You'd never know you never know when you want a thermal he did. I did i pick termini them too. But i think if thermal through a more particularly oh you want him to think he through the most and landed the most right hands on pack out adver near but i'm saying picked it up a little bit earlier. That's it handsome. Let me tell you. I talked to him. He hates today. Lost to form a one dirty work at top brink. Of course davidson jimmy. Aaron got just by. Like i said once again the the the ring generalship of this inside of ring phrase new. You watch on his fights last night. I know he didn't throw like talking donald hembo. Who's been saying curious guy and was saying that he had in being in the job. Like i said we're just gonna find out awesome. You feel fans toll. Certain fighters warm. I feel like they don't know the what we put in. We do inside a gym. Not only is gym life. You know we gotta stop doing. We don't live regular lines. You know like we just can't wake up and go party and this and that we wake up or train back we'll stay on. You cannot go out early and then you go performed. Band is one fight now. Everybody's the but when you wouldn't just not out the guy last fight. Everybody team everybody. Everybody loves. I was like basketball. Games now is that mentally acres was to win. Lavenham brooklyn lab incidents. Don't bring my lakers brooke. Moment boxes joking like in every sport you know you have bad the your your division you know lightweight. Obviously you're still young enough that you know move to forty happened one day but give me your thoughts on joseph. Da's coming into the division. The way he did end the performance that he gave against soviet for to isky a real player in your division is the one you want them any nights. I think he'd go back to one and make wait the right way you know. I know he was at twenty six jumping thirty and now he can't make thirty so he says yeah not affiliated something just not. I used to be got another. I went up to thirty five thousand five. So yeah. But i don't think i don't know but you know s- thousand fights to that's a good point on the pants on. We got david maldonado in new york city. The says serb champ always respect to my philly regan. Because i'm have new york have philly rican myself question. What's your thoughts on the late. Great hector macho camacho. I'll really. I only know much about to be honest john campbell and speed on something. I don't know what i'm saying. Something we got. Stephen a uk says hey champ. Thanks for coming on the show which fight politics aside. Do you want right now. Do you want the champions at one thirty five. You'd look in. Take out a contender like luke campbell. For example to make a statement. Thanks for coming. On the show steven a. yuka rose up a bit. Yeah you see me only now do we see you. So yeah i. I'm looking at next. I'm looking at now tuneup. Ninety something and then after. I two months in bringing ranked ballots. Whatever it is just bring on. So you're gonna do top-ranked will give you that that that soon offer on tv or are you gonna do that. Which team off tv his service. He back did you hear that question or no you. I'll say i'd say. Espn for sort. Oh wow okay congrats congrats. Well listen joseph man. Please give out your social media. Those are the last questions we do appreciate your time and we look forward to seeing you back in a ring man. You keep checking. People with that left. Hook is a beautiful one. I love it when you double it. Give media on instagram on on real joseph darnell facebook on joseph mcdonnell twitter at things underscore blessed. Then you guys for having me in his mme and i'll be. Let's go check soon as you got the name and they hit us up and we're gonna bring you right back man thank you. I'm sure right so real quick before we get back into the Main topic. I just want to get a cheap little plug in plug here where we are with. That column uploaded aren't to upload dining so just wanna go ahead and announce that The showdown in town is taking place with tb. Doing the commentary and we will be in the building all august for seve for our biggest commentary job yet. So we're looking for your support to spread the word. We're going to be not only doing the commentary for lorenzo truck. Simpson and ken porter's fighter henry martinez and dhcp zone. Darren the gift cunningham. But those fights will be streamed right here to the youtube chin so telephone tele firm and this is our first time streaming fight straight la the absolutely free so you gotta be happy i took. Pbc spot free box and for all so. Yeah men join us. August fourteenth is going down. We're excited. I can't even believe i mean we got to call quasi this cashcard last week. You know. and he's for on the contender. He's been on television but now to get the prospect importer dominican own their low me. Yes i'm excited. I'm i'm so happy. Just bless you know trump. I mean who doesn't talk about trucks. So like i just hope that. So many eyeballs get to the channel. You have to know that you can watch these fires right here. You can't watch him anywhere else. This card is only going to be seen right here so telephone. It's elephant you gotta come or you know fun. That being said we're back to the main topic and mike finally conceded. The crawford is afraid. Honest a real. Quick joe's ordinal. I think he should at least fight one of those guys. They draw with basic goal. Is somebody else but should he needs that tuneup man. I mean look you got hit harder that you wanna you wanna you wanna see what how much effect that took on you. He said he thought the guy before. You gotta draw with two. I'm i'm i have seen his and then he got a majority joyce. Oh jesus the fight. How would i asked him. What mike sam right. Like hector garcia montas. He's got sixteen wins seven losses four draws so like that is a tune-up but i also hear what joseph and his team. Oh i get you. Daffae wasn't supposed to look but it did. I need a tune-up right now. To get my mind right. He i heard him. He said like i need something that i'm for. Sure for sure going to walk through so it's a confidence thing man. It's a confidence thing. Yeah that's the way you look at it. You know. I could see it from that perspective but for me i think if he is going to come back and fight one of those guys i think it should be ortiz. Like get somebody even safer than than your first of all. You know what. I'm saying like if that's what you really want. You want somebody that you've got a guarantee win and build that confidence which i one hundred percent understand you know. That's that's a necessary thing that doesn't happen boxing. People don't get that always talk about all men these findings scrub or whatever like you gotta have some sort of soft touch in between the gauntlet of massacres. You know what. I'm saying like like row of fighters because like in baseball you he get down to triple a. And get your confidence back in basketball. They got the rookie league in the nfl. Really nothing you just going into the nfl. But you know he. Canadian league and so you know is acronyms word right. Look you know what to the gave a good fight between two fighters you actually like you know thanked them for you. Know it's crazy. He's had a whole bunch of tko's cao's in this like you get into a fight. And i remember the days when when it was a fight it was it was it was something to meyer. You know and it's all tickets. I mean you're entertaining the crowd. So i wonder how much pressure it is on these guys. You know i mean excuse me. Aggravate longo was a under the same pressure in on until he pushed. Pass his His co. streak and draw on fan by egging. No drugs did to me. He needs to go back and fight one of those who sixteen seven. If you can't tune up with that guy who you want somebody who who twenty twenty so give. Give the tuneup a second chance. Let me let me get all him me. Let me get to a few days. Super chats. got gentlemen's driving club. Taking shots austin in hobbs new mexico. He says no one knows this kid austin or his brother. He needs to shut the f. a. Respect his elders and learn what an uppercut bag is laughing. That's that's because of yesterday's show austen's brothers fighting rail and somehow you know the they made it seem like if austin's brother gets an upset over rail he deserves a shot at sean. And obviously you know. Austin took a shot. His opponent like you know he was in funny is looking back on the war and brought as nobuko. Barry we've never seen those before that teardrop bag that's what it said. They use the quarterback. That's the old. That's the shannon briggs uppercut bag or we got back from a zap. Sam who says you think bird had the wbo or the fight question mark thinkin emoji would not at all. I don't think that happens. Hey so well you guys are laughing but you forget that he did have alaska's called early remember. It wasn't a mandatory. He did it and don't forget this so did plant. So he gave me his metal kavaliauskas he selected. You just like to be called earlier. You just ask them to give your mandatory and they got to go down the line unless oh okay. I misunderstood that. I thought he was saying. Did the as the bud request porter be called supposed to have a decision. So i get that you know when they come in that statement is you're right like how is it porter. I thought i thought ortiz was there. I guess he got passed over. Because he's got to fight with cav alaska's right because wasn't number one. Yeah it was tied up so plan like on the what happened. Man i come home. Call the wb l. eight man. We need important to mandatory bob bob. Ney's big fight for crawford. But bob dole wanna pay so bob wanna pay how. How can by get a big cycle. But i got one for you as horrible if you feel that right and i walked down that street which you. Why would bob say. Hey paco virgils number one. But we know he's busy. Alaska's i need you to skip the non popular. Only two hundred seventy five thousand paper views in porter. Gimme that mexican year number three. Which oh yeah garcia. Mikey the big pay-per-view draw the mexican degreen print the the may. He ran across from the black fighter. That's the recipe we need. Okay parco impact come back to you reporter now. Listen if bob wanted a big fight like you say it would have been number three mikey numb and by the by the way there's no go ahead go ahead. Bob knows he can't make mikey do anything. Michael just got hurt. I don't mean to monkey a garcia. It gets down to fight to fight jesse bargains. Yo where's this where's the was. What is this food. You got it if you if you call. Mikey now you got zone. Overbidding your champion still get sixty million remember. Dissolve dissolves still got last rites matt lattes right match offer on mikey. They go into a burst. Perspiration eddie already shown. He ain't bob's true friend. He bid to tom with bob bid on tijuana fuck when he bid on. Mikey versus crawford. Disowned would get a million subscribers american so but okay yeah i get that right now. I think though. Here's the other part of it though. Like there's no if you're bob there's no guarantee like your yes. You're giving bud porter the best opportunity to happen. But there's no guarantee that it does happen. I mean how many times have we seen sanctioning bodies come in and give a bbc fighter a fight only to have how give a more financially better route very and so there's no guarantee they're very good point you're right and that's why puerto probably didn't need his post last night. That's what you exactly hold on. So so who are you insinuated wait mara started with an insinuation and said that our just give his fighter a better fight right now. Might you jumped in and said well. That's probably why the posted leader so the porta deleted or alcohol porter to have it deleted. Because he's got another plan. I'll call somebody call them. 'cause you don't oppose that see. I'm ready for the best. The best read it. Because i got everybody took a happened. No he team. That's why i don't know we all have that i sell. Maybe he. He liked the post pick. I was expecting but you always stay ready to give the fans what they want arts nap so you tell everybody. Don't want to fight you. You ready for five ten minutes later. It's gone somebody had to make a phone call. That's not the route that we going down right now on the dick. Ask tag crawford dini hashtag property too. I got screen sarah. I'm screen sharing. Oh i'm just glad that mike sees that and understands then when things disappear is because someone called so now it says it not something i was expecting but you know i always stay ready to give the fans what they want. Clock starts now. Clock is representing that thirty day countdown. To w the oh gave and then look what he put so he wants this fight. Something is here people. Say i'm a conspiracy theorist has tagged the best fighting the best. So you want this hashtag deport away so you weren't this has tag cough reporter so you understand you the b side you out trying to ruffle the feathers. He understands he ain't put porta crawford. He ain't trying to make a sand. He ain't trying to fight a negotiation. No daddy this your show crawford versus porter but he put it showcase on because he gonna show you dudes all you do. Choose to keep not picking them. All you do is thinking. He's sweet he gonna show you. Do's and i put right there already deleted because it was already gone the minute they send it to me. She was already going. I had a screen shot my techs. I'm tired they work fast out here. They work fast. You got to walk that line. Not outside that long. So seeing the gubbio mandated decide. How confident are you guys that we get this fight. I'm not after realizing that we've been talking about this in two thousand fourteen of maine. I'm not. I think everything every conspiracy we talk and i think that it might not happen. I think the same thing Mario set at my offer porter benefit. H- you know. Bob might low bid and so does or out doesn't even be johnson. Nobody you know. Like i just. It's been so long four years of a fight that we wasn't even accent for so that's me but but why would they board. Geez has two days ago The post says. I'll be back real soon. So that's what i said. That's that's the piece of positivity that maybe he knew this was coming and remember when we think porter crawford. The biggest tagline attached to that is or we go to call each other man. That's my i gotta we gotta get on the phone. Maybe they did. Why else would crawford be the one show. i'm coming. maybe he already talked to porter. Maybe that's another reason why puerto took it down like yoyo. He got the call from crawford like we do in his malice. This even though i don't get wrong with that tweet that there's nothing wrong with that. He's promoting so to take it. Down is like a oxymoron. it's exactly backwards of what we want taking it down is. What's really scaring me that we won't get the because if you dig it the call from crawford and i came out to some conclusion watching it down. Let us reach retest. She let us all make all my he was. You know what i'm saying like. I don't understand that. This backward as promoting be doing in boxing man is is really sad younger two zero Disrespect in that tweet. There's no kind of slight or none in no shave brown. No nothing just i man. They did something. I want the fight i got no problem with. Were fighting a crop. I don't know why you go back and five minutes later. You you delete it deport away. Podcasts i mean that could tell people wait a minute. I'm talking about it tomorrow on my show so i'm here for it but i just don't get why you delete that tweet unless mario said adding got something bigger and better for you may maybe. That's maybe that's Guys maybe that's maybe somebody damn mini michael sheen. The minute you said. Mikey like automatically just was like man. I can't get mad at. I promise you is just a bigger fight. That's why i don't understand why wouldn't craw for an. I mean. Bob tried to get to mikey at number. Three's just a big five. And if you if you sean this how convinces you. Let me come by the next magellan. Mecum this i convince you of you. And i want you to fight. Mikey bird. he just saw earl. Don't you want the rematch. Were like that's how you do it. You you beat him better than heroin and we can sell the rematch on pay per view the huddle something to go play as good point you absolutely right and you know is there. The corporate point is there like he can. He can counter our say. Look if i fight. Crawford i'm in the mix for undisputed 'cause i got the bill if i find mikey i'm just name i crawford i'm in the mix undisputed i got the bill to see you got to see me. I don't know how much does at this point in his career like where he's at legacy wise and know. I mean i'm not that man so i can't say but i will say this the the needle has moved like we see crawford porter like for everything that anybody wants to say. You know even our door no said it like this not calling for. This isn't the fight we were saying. We're saying spence crop but despite moves the needle we have over six hundred people listening. You know what i'm saying. You see all the tweets and in phase on twitter. This is move the needle so the the hype is there. I think it's just a matter of some of the people who are pessimistic about it. You know and speaking of likes there are one hundred. Seventy three of them right now. Do us a favor and hit that. Like button and right now get them likes up. Also make sure you go to youtube and hit up mike on sports. If you're not already subscribed were full. Subscribe now and It's at twenty three twelve on twitter. I'm right right. You're just switch that thing shit. No longer shot up to milwaukee. We're going to be there september and they won the title last night so wait last night note. Two nights ago. I was asleep audio. Yesterday's stupor chanted this. Get back to the super cab for chat from k. d. d. of keeping it in order. We got him saying our call. B s on the whole freelance welterweight. Division they are free and bosses yet they have to delete their own sweet and censor themselves and be checked for better of three plus years but bud. No excuse me. Three plus years bud was never shown as a champ and al been All know all this. So i'll bend up all this. Oh for all this time. Because he put a stop of signing imo time talking agee cryptic higher. I know we in the cave right now. Obama bows next on the super short. You should new mike. Her puerta shut the podcast down and left the country. Dan porter need this fight because people think he scared he can't let out changes mar. Let's be real though reported. Don't take the fight. Is there anybody to these guys. Just don't wanna fight. There is growth. i mean again. Not if you tell them. You fi- mikey i'm not mad at you. I ain't mad at your generous to find out how many people believe mike and go in here and be showing puerto but that's even better for porter you see so it's like our really duly abo-. He gave me a big name that he could be honest. That is puerto wishing he'd get that mike. Mikey fine. I ain't gonna love the money you'd probably there for for modified. The unsee believe the porter in books. I i believe that it does better than puerto spits. I mean maybe maybe maybe. Because you know we've been dying for that opponents when triple g four gennady for dhillon new and then he for someone else jacobs and danny for canals booth. It blew up right there. That's show represents you know that guy that if you were able to be able to beat them i mean. He's a gatekeeper. He holds the keys to the to the title. That one like. If you get this fight you know a gatekeeper. Listen this is legit. Turn for sean if you beat him. Let's say boots beats him. He gets a title shot. Let's say you know. That's what the gatekeeper is. He holds the keys to that title. He's that man as a strong gate. It is because you know. He's a tough fight. He's a tough but again the coffee fancy pick them apart because he's more sloppy. He's a little sloppy. But we got sarcasm. Five dollars says just deal days with mike. that's right. the boss is back who we got. We got a gala gala donahue k. That has congratulations nest. Dumi in mario. It's great watching y'all grow. Welcome back big. Mike large up the tv. Familia next javier. Y'all look santamaria is going to be taken on his first two time. Champion devon alexander southpaw. Is that south borsa south pole. Anybody you fill me is luke is lucas. But he beat. Mikhail microphones always focused. his name is still pronounced. Michael even though spelled different but he did suffer that loss to paul. Crawl paul closer. This is the way. I know that right you know about august car is going to be and lucas. Something maria devon alexander's back versus luke santamaria then new paul crow. I mean look that affected. We're gonna go to the supercharge. Is obvious to have is how they got a deal. Shutout man he says Mike triple fire emoji all the boys good to see all you guys and same show thumbs up emoji. Hope this fight happens as a fan. I really like it thumbs up big shout out the heck deal chain me. Look a that card was the next one from joe supermax. He says here's five bucks. Just got it feeling like good old tune-in with the bist particular panel great show fellows. Where does mike across the bow in the building. you got cough who says Or ca off. She fires save matches. Happy y'all on the screen together. Happy to see on the screen together. We'll shout out so you cough. I hope i'm not massacre that the rule is if rings on air. You answer on air. I one thing that i do want to bring up a shelf. Puerto with on a. I barack show like lascher or earlier district sometime. And he told them that he needed the cooper five ways his his legacy he needed for his career. And with that being said like if you feel that way and he should tell ally man no mike. You may be the guy or whatever. But i won't. I won't that guy to to get that built from and bring it back to sort. Sorta light broncos donald h. He should actually should be inspired. By broncos donald. What's but what he did against texteira and came back and did it against charter. Which i thought one of but a with with that being said like he should actually trying to that five more so than any other fighter being offered to him. In my opinion it is a better fight. it's a career defining fight you know. He can steal the boogeyman you steal the boogeyman like you know. There's just that simple people got crawford as do that. Everyone is afraid of or if you don't think people are afraid of him you still think he's the most skilled fighter so it's like you saying he. He gets a chance to slay the boogeyman or he becomes the boogeyman. No you steal that option off the board if someone got his right. 'cause there's look there's three different things out de crawford's of feared fighter a pound for pound fighter. Coffers never afford anybody so you know. It's the high the myth legend which one is it. Go ahead and find out first before someone other elite fighter does it before you. That's all i'm saying am by being author that pretty much ensures you the that you really want the most treatment undisputed as well like like. I said the mikey's the big fight. Maybe they could sensationalize it to her. But this is the fight that leads to legacy and undisputed it leads to the very least if al is like dan. You won that fight. Yo go ahead and do the guys for unification finally you get to become a unified champion. Sean never been a unified chant. Go do that rematch. You already familiar with him. We build up the earl fight a little more bloom undisputed but you gotta go. Get that from crawford man. Is mikey the bigger fight though. Mikey i know he's mexican american but not really a real one hundred and forty seven founded. Haven't seen them in there. Really just going there and be a elite one hundred and forty seven parents who beat the hell out of august. My leap gotta listen. But jesse may not be. Lebron jesse has been beat by elites and the other people that be. Jesse ain't doing like that man. I i but no it was a good fight but but the way you put that like two different questions to say that is it. The is mikey the bigger fight. I would say yes talking. Financial talk about potential for gate and overall revenue. Is mikey the bigger or better fight. Let's say that for in terms of legacy and resume. No i agree with you on that. I think he hasn't done enough. That that weight class. And i think that waters proven to be what he is. You know what i'm saying. So yeah i think that when it comes to like pound-for-pound or who's the best and you know in terms of legacy porter would be the bigger win or better win. But in terms of money in dollars i think mike you probably out. Does it from quick. We've got a few counterpunch dom in seattle. What a yo-yo-you await the hell on yoyo was dead. What what's up. Mike bug company. Pvc you coming back to tv being. It's all good. And i think this thing is cool if it's a fight but when it comes to money in could we all know daddy porter ankle because one of the bare minimum but if it comes to a real fight i would like to save money. We ain't considered sit as michael. I don't of how happy team puerto rico's or or within the be getting bare minimum. Maybe they do a deal. Like like a frank warn. Have with a joe twenty. Both what would you about a fight. Dimitri andre you take lip but i still got some off the back end for you so i don't know if they can do it like that out till a border take that split in. I'll pay you money on on the back. End the bait. That's why if we could come to the table right. We got thirty days negotiate. So all bob wants to give he. Let's say he's a he's a jerk he don't want to move on that million so he's like look we given coffered mandatory three. We're going to give you a million but we'll give you fifty percent of the proceeds the way that gives charles. Oh look at look at look at it. Even ericsson got some on the undercard. So it's like be generous. Let me make my money off the bat. Let me put it on my social media. Let me say it on my pockets. Because i know i'm making money. You can't say algan pay him if you on the fight is going to be on. Espn is up to bob the payer so if bob wants to take a mandatory minimum upfront the small. You gotta pay him on the back end. You gotta pay him on the back end. If there's no paper you hail no. There's no there's offer but but but but mike while why you even putting that out there. Why wouldn't put on paper view. I'm not saying that. He wouldn't have i if if i happen. It should be on pay per view right. But you brought up charlie and somebody else. I was not review. Of course it was bad here of how are going to get somebody else. Did i say. I said rosario and got back into everybody did but that was the same. Said are you everybody. But that's what you offer that to your people you say go out there and promote this small fuck i'm gonna give you some back end money. I just feel like because of how close. Wbo is affiliated and associated with top rank. because sean seems to understand exactly what it is in the process. That's about in front of him. I feel like to a certain degree. This is a setup. And i don't mean setup in a bad way like they're setting someone up i mean they're lining the stars for this happened and maybe that's the optus up optimism. Is that the word optimism. Maybe it's the up optimism. You know overly optimistic in my on my but this feels different than the other times when this fight almost came to wishing this feels different and and there's more parties involved that seemed to be heading towards that direction. I got to counter punches from j. will in ohio are you available. G will j. will sh- yum available might Sup everybody man yell man. I put my hands on this ally debating shit. So might i think Welcome you back by you know. That's why hits him to cp's Yo i i like the way the that you know are you senator shani's to go out and say this and that you know we just discuss right before i got on the foul. You know pretty much. If we agree that be going with the one million ballgame. It's like why can't terrence. Why does the terrorists. The one needs to go to bob and say look. I'm linden. take a pay cut even if he came promise on the back end. Then it's up to tears to do something because obviously equation is wrong for sound. Only get one million Tans give it after he gets that that's not gonna. Nobody would ever agree to that. You know what i'm saying. I don't care how much you want your legacy to be whatever so. Why isn't the prime minister is bob is not going to budge. Why does it terrace. May bob do some bryant at the parents. I don't think. Darren should should take money out of out of his mouth to make sure that sean porter give what he's supposed to get you get what you negotiate sound. Puerto got great adviser at and see what happened was able to do for wilder and And earl earl junior. Why can't out trying to do the same thing. For for economists. Saying let me kind of saying this. Do you think one million for a two-time former welterweight champion is fair market. Value for software. Do you did you this value. Yes or no. Cut it collecting. I mean the peers are really the painters man. I i i pay give more than one million but bob is not willing to budge on that. And don't have a bill his biggest payday from what was reported on. No air about backing off from what was reported from earls bins junior. He got two million dollars a bill. So you want him to get to three main download with no bill. That's kind of hard to act. We got some super. What's brother for the super chad's o. Rady then looks like we are going to s alright. e. s. o. s. o. a. Coon says only way to pay res after making that type of money with aj in the rematch is by going on pay per view. Plus they are grooming grooming him for wilder fight. Go next up. I mean. I i agree with that. I just i don't. I don't agree with that. They would just in the market he. He created history. He's he's the first one in the book it's him you guys don't get that and that's why the pay per view happen and that's why it wasn't a bad thing and if it was announced that he's back in september i think right do about a right also. You can't make thirteen million dollars to come back and make one had. Yeah no no way. Even though i think that you should you know if you know you fight in ruis. But i get them. They rolled the dice. I we'll pay you this francey. What you do on the back end you know. Show your worth. Show your worth if you was good as you say you is. You're gonna make the money you wanna may sway in the building. New york city says good. Show fellas gonna help me get through this flight to puerto. Rico damn everybody gonna puerto rico yourself at the arc. In barack i just came back. He took his son over everybody's over their fighters over if ge going on over de he's his trips fire emoji. Doing brazilian butt lifts in puerto rico wary. They're gonna. pr catching a ferry to d of the bb l. Makes it now. They doing hip for Airport line full women in wheelchairs laugh wheelchair who had the president a van we got no hole was finished reading his. He hit us with the trip of fire. Boji says puerto thurman to was the rumor prior to this wbo stuff bud versus porter. Fire mogae. yeah. I don't know there was a lot of rumors. Thurman was rumored to be guys. Fight jamal james was rumored to be in a boots and his fight. Then puerta was rumored to be in jamal. James fight you know. Burto has been rumored to be back in hindu. Pbc welterweight division. He's ranked at number ten which is not a rumor so like there's a lot of rumors it's time to to make one of these things that we through against the war actually stick. He rented say well he ran the number ten. Where the let me tell you what i'm thinking. Check this out my this. What i'm thinking. And i'm gonna keep talking into existence people mad at me too. They don't like this. And maybe you ain't going like this right below. My my best friend led annella. Be the best promoter the world and i got to say because i didn't know i didn't know when he was i sank the biggest fight from one thirty two. I was like crazy. And it's like damn bro was actually a fucking truth teller. You miss cleo. You know what i'm saying. So so now he went out there. He says yo and he said i quote tank could be in a big fight on pay per view at one four seven so i said to myself who the fuck is he gonna fight earl. Got pack. ya crawford's across the street. His promoter just said. We're doing everything in house. Oh shit what. the fuck is doing on. Because he'd been he'd been overtime for four years. Who else is five. Six in the welterweight division is only one do that to fight. It is not burto not burto at all. Burto in atlanta with tank is going to be a movie ticket to get. I'm never missing a tank. Quite in atlanta mike again you know. That's that's a big fight and you know that's the mikey bertone. Good short field garcia in in devante. That's a sahgal. That's a golf. I'll be so powerful about is like a superhero movie right. It's like the versus burto. You know what i'm saying. You talk about like thor two or some shit or or like the second event. But if it's a mikey fi. I'm you talking dan. oh snap shit like. That's you know what i'm saying. So i think that it's about tank more than anything and i'll be honest. I think to this point the size the besides don't matter in terms of successful business the only matter in terms of how much more successful they can be so. I love the mikey fight. But you got that match right off that he owes disown. You know there's the rumored. Mike regis regis. I had posted you. See that mike regis posted the mike in a date to be announced. So like is it. Mikey or is it bertone who magically appear because you know l. a. b. said a one four seven year. Mikey has fought at one four seven so it could be him and i agree with mike. It's the bigger fight. It's the say it might be safer fight. Because birtles always been upon so he's always been that forty-seven and the last thing. That go was powell. He might sit tank as dale. He might lose but he might sat down. Mikey started at one twenty six winter. So it's like bra. Your body looks good. When you go to one forty mikey's looks like he's you know you know washing cars out there with his. By the only reason. I disagree because so much of burto strengths and inability or based off of. You know like if he's too old at this point of he's gotten too old than his ability to catch tank like that diminishes. Mike garcia is a very well-balanced fighter and he's not far removed from his prime at all. This isn't an old guy. This isn't a guy that's war-torn we're talking about it dude. Who in my opinion you know moved up to. Oh i have some that fight. Because they don't they don't they don't give people fight to try to play them out and mikey's played out saying i'm just let you know division world champion while champion. Jesse guerrero's right five. Understand that these quotes. Mikey saying gamboa's thirty nine years old when he was fighting tang. Mikey who the fuck is he fought. Talking about is mikey saying tech has for. This is his words. In case the copyright free produce be is from understanding that mike. He's been taking shots. And and i'm not gonna play it like you should have known by now. I just want to say that didn't give a shot. Seven was disrespectful and he had no power so you could have checked the little black box little box that says slick black fighter. You gotta check the and did a pay per view. But you didn't so anybody. Gary is small and he'd be talking crazy about you and you didn't so i just don't you buy the jumping with this dude. Who's knocking out welterweight. He's putting them down. This is a real fucking fight. Oh my you. Mike gain a real fight the way. They may not august america's much berry getting there. He embarked his day twice. He put them down twice did he. Did he stop two. Times is enough. Come the orme drought. Jessie bardwell one time. He two-time dropping jesse vargas bradley. Bradley bradley dropped vargas. Deepak you out. This is what i'm saying. I don't think he wanted he. He jesse better than almost anybody. You could call it itself by. But he he put hayes on. Listen jesse's never been stopped for everything you say about him getting put down like you know. The the merit of fighter of a tough fighter is his ability to withstand. You know what. I'm saying like nobody's going to look at provide the coffin bradley and say oh man they pussies going down like dement. Finish that fight. You know what i'm saying. So jesse vargas. That's the same kind of marriage you can give him. Despite being down despite losing three lawns never been stopped. And he's fought some dues that could crack. Let me go to know g in dallas with his super chat. Dumi noah gee dallas has stopped the cap thurman versus porter is not a paper. Thank you we. As boxing fans know those names but not enough casualties will not buy that. We just had charles for free you entry. Incredible in atlanta sat out to incre- increased. I combine them intrigue always available when we hit the we back his t you know. We're going to be in cosmopolitan. We're gonna be calling the fights. Anybody just joined in right now and you don't let me go to put the thumbnail up so you can see. Tb is going to be on august fourteenth year dude his randomly to free style. You see oh. And that's because i am in love with what i do is not a job is my passion. I get to call renzo. Truck simpson's fight. He's fighting august fourteenth the showdown age town t. v. I got daring the gift cunningham on that. Call man i just i mean the hp. My show up devon haney promotions. Jim henry martinez that'll meal tommy nominee kind of the town. Just salad it. You're going to watch that fight free right here to hold the all you can watch free right here and see henry fighting free right here on youtube. Dot com forward slash. The box and voice man. God is good. Don't forget cartels caches on that car. Also we got a nine g he. This guy is like a new up and coming hot hot boy. I'm telling you. I'm not g lopez. I think it is looking look be left now in a mirror animated. Don't be don't be left out. We want just like we put you on the first at the mexican. Puerto rican heavyweight three three. Big cao's tennessee. Stand up california. Thank you for opening the doors for my for my for my me a mistrial. He meant elvas uka sco water. Sign that six nine heavyweight which one saying morillas mexican mexico. I think he he. He's trained by robert garcia. I believe that's from member states right now. I said hey. Remember when robber had mike perez you know he couldn't train them because robber has little guys and then he makes his heavyweights train. Like the little guys so they run into a. I don't know. I hope he changed his mind. He also got an interview. I think he don't like training heavyweights for this very same reason. But i'll remember that interview that yup but we got some more super chats and the next one who is it before we get to these phone calls boys but sank not as way way way. That's not. I've been calling him. Big boy paquet thinking he's saying big boy pockets. Watch the potato fuck. Y'all he never. He never sends a like a unesco fucking on my name. I've been calling them. Big boy pockets and span is big boycott gaddi or cabinets. Like sick whole got about five years. His name not even a written on everywhere saying man as a view and joe how is not big. Boy back katie. You just wanted to be that so you read that big. Hey listen he probably like a i got. I got the pockets but anyway. Big boy says spence leftovers stops bud late rounds boxing emojis. Ooh anybody believe that out. My daily believe you asked me. Do i believe this spence. I mean that that puerto can stop. Bud that's what you accent. You're anybody believe it. I mean it's tough to believe. But i think if there's gonna be a wave hands it's this before you say anything. What daily garcia tell you about two weeks ago to hang onto power and felt like what feathers rich though you heard. You heard them out that i know. It's going to be a grueling fight but obviously you know The group will be rooting for Aggressive with crawford. We'll be finished. Though we're drew week we could be rooting for sean. But we know deep down inside. If you're betterment you're gonna be better on crawford we shall lose already. We've seen him up against an elite that we want crawford by so it's like we expect crawford a be able to Win against john porter. So if i'm going to talk. Yeah you can never count sean out. Because of his grueling style so anything can happen in a boxing match. But yeah i can't you might bensman Pick crawford the. I'll put it this way. Look does porter have like because every time we talk about. This is like such a weird conversation like you asking. Does he have the power. The ability like yes. This is a high level fighter in porter. Okay this is one of the top of the class. And he's been there for years. But i don't see him beating porter so the answer to me does he knock him out no because he doesn't win that fight in my opinion does he get test. Does crawford battle-tested absolutely. Is it. going to be easy night for crawford that's always you know and we wanted to show like look. This is why everybody said what they said. I'm about to take on your bull and show you that. I'm not gonna have all the trouble. Thermostat spent sad. I'm because people do they still call in him. I can say. Puerto one. I even with the knockdown like literally have called on the days on the night and then moment like man. Puerto did enough to win even with. But i knew get knocked down. You're not going to beat her. It just just wasn't gonna go your way. And they'll keep dartmouth fight very very close by very close by undetermined one off guard but still very very close danny garcia very baby very close. I just feel like there's corporate is a better boxer than all. I think you really have problem figuring out hangers crawford and just come right with that pressure. I think he's going to be open for a long range. Uppercuts onsite skill set to me. It is a kryptonite to watch. Importer brings but says the same thing about mel in costano like i think now's the better more talented boxer but you see against thousand make by what happens when people are actually in a fight out different. I'm not saying that the fight looks like that. I'm just saying that when dudes fight the way on the game plan does not go exactly. According to a little bit less than what he's you muted might you man but let's take costano because i knew he was the better boxer by what he was able to do. A veteran boxing. Yes you don't do what you did against laura and not be a better box to me. He that laura fire costano you. You can't put it on our and now be a better boxing than what charlie. That's why i picked Yeah i see that if anything. It's a better attribute his. He's his his greatest attribute is in the ring off and the oppression that he apply. I can't call them the better boxer because he was getting caught on way in. He's just one of those dues. This okay we get in here to selana punch the way. He was porter. It was a halloween by a guy showed a skill at at if not the same in essence a close to it. So i'm and a good boxer going for we give annetta the credit all the time. So you know i personally. I thought charles had it in the bag Not not as a decision was made. I'm saying i thought that he would have it in the bag. Easy and it turned out to be a frigging crazy entertaining. Fight that i wouldn't mind seeing part two so it's all good. Let's real quick week. Well you said that you read his name but didn't read. The chat credible says thermos still a star. More media was talking about thermo than the actual. Pack you over suspense fi. If thurman says he's fighting a tough fight believe him. You know intrigue man. He stands on his toes. Yeah listen we got show kid with one but you read it. I never noticed that. That was his medallion. He won and his boorda was fight. Is avenue now that i notice that sat out some key forty. He got a win being forty years ago and over. Not many not many could do that no now. he's back september eighteen. He's taken on a to window. Fighter like no fairness dude man for nine from fighting the the biggest punch to one of the most polished boxers. You know he ain't afraid of no style so we shot to be ness. Mike mario and do me. Bay list aka mario's trainer ceo. September eighteenth grace show out about this respect for keep our manhasset stop. I know you people that he. He lost the pack but that's the only person he lost bird not going to expected more expect. They thought pack. Oh we expected more are always love keeps so. I'm not like hating on him for letting me down. But people get really mad when they're fighting lets them down. And that's you know. You heard joseph you know everybody's on your side when you're not gonna mouse on as you don't look good. They jump off the train. Keep the same energy august. Four twenty days if matty patio beats earls fans. You guys got a treat earl spencer exact same way you treat right now. They have to. You can't make excuses by or four. Many yell beats earl. Spins give the same treatment. You keep them right chant. You're absolutely right. And i echo your sentiments. But i mean i just been on twitter too long to know that they're not going to. Oh we got allston in austin in somewhere in texas says people pay to talk about me. These boys my fans cry emoji. And he's replying to podcast. Ak- sean mission impossible jones. Who will be taken our smoke them out. J. six four three hundred thirteen pals of devastation. Let's get to the next super remember going down. September eighteenth in watertown wisconsin. If you don't know aboard wars is hit me up on social media at gto. We got the return of jarrett yo. I never thought all this tom. Fucking jared is. Mike y'all jared nelson's mike is back it's might burner count. Mike you are. Jared louis liger mighty like no y'all so you don't remember jerry lawyer when you the show buffoni always call him bump crawford the garbage man. You'll remember that. Love is so many of those guys out there and this guy's crazy soon as you what he. What's the rationale well. Why would it be. Mike who is well known dog. That's the thing he's been appropriate. He's gonna crawford fan ever since we lead. Many burn. Account the shit auto. Well you many many as being a fan many many frustrations you express. Ghostwriters goes right. Get those those frustrations out the ghost. Rene you aka mike gross dubose garbage man crawford a duck tales. He fights the pedestrians and the damaged goods. Father bob trying to convince you that garbage truck is ferrari bum lord crawford. It is funny. Get stone bone mass. I'm tony he's been gone. It's just. I mean. I'm not saying it's really you. But it's like whoa. You're back he's back. That's the governor's being like a ferrari. But i'm damn sure no garbage truck gets going downhill. Just keep going. Hard to stop heart-stopping turn that around. We got steve moon. Munoz's where the winning nine says programs versus crawford at one forty seven. Got crawford obviously reasons. That mario satellite. We seem porter lose and we seem regis lose. The differences between regions importers puertas. Tough is nails. He's like dog dog doll. Every just you know what i'm saying. We should he he. He looked good. It would tell but we again another. Do you know you let us down. You was talking. He was talking. He was about to move up and beat the shit out of coffee to remember. He was on social media. Happy about that. I would by put that out. I sent him a about aaron video he sent me back a a Article of him and mike garcia. So saying that no. I'm not. I'm not buying. This is the fight that that have been talked about in being negotiated. Yeah i'm telling. He's very adamant mike. How do you feel about regis first of all. Do you know if he's wit. I'll because our the backtrack no but do you know. If he's with allen. Not because i mean he's all over the place right he's gonna fight with mike he on thriller he fought on four top-ranking ford and world boxing. Like this every i don't know who he's with to be honest but i did see some al hayman i would. I'm not gonna say some al hayman words and then they disappeared again. So yeah Your thoughts on that whole situation. He he'd not without he can pretty much work with anybody that he he feels like a paid. The reason why he came back and said that he said To begin with is the kind of that he really wanted. The device that that the borrows fight in the in the i guess the king david fight but maybe out just in seed in his plan for a. I don't really have a problem with him. Being critical about aetna because if history has shown has anything everybody does don't succeed without aiming there are there are some outliers jamir harris. Who went somewhere else. Had a better career over atop britain. So everybody's not going succeed. Would without hammond and maybe reach for like a moment he was one of those guys who couldn't but he had to go back. And backtrack maybe management. Or somebody says amanda. It's not a good look. Never wanna burn bridges and just keep the the the door always open to do business in believe we had a lot of respect for i am i just think it was certified that he wanted on the pbc. I browner that he was never really able to get. We got a side box and talk about in talk. Do me eisai vip ola. Big shout out to eisai. Boxing talk and he says on episode. Thirty three of porter's podcasts. He came out and said he has a house and how people don't even know if activating man those are real. Pbc fight is trade. Good paydays for being told what to do at all times out. Much truth is to that next. One is count drago. You want me to say come through google duct again porter gu-guy keith. Real quiet What's up mike. You're the attorney here. What he means pod does it again porter. Ooh guys keith. Real quiet might your mu. I am not anymore. What do you say but duct again porter. Guga's keith real quiet. I mean our make up. Another one i don't i. I need more context. I'll over here. Actually begging about how much i don't like roller ramiro know was somebody who about row the. I'm just like that guy. If not netting. There is the fact that he talked so much shit about everybody. It makes me not like him. And that's a good thing for you here. I mean i'm invested in watching this guy lose. I wanna see him lose from now. Would you would use this. Do you like haney versus romero. I love it. He call haney the fucking a of thirty five disrespectful to of thought it was talking about the high priest. You say a lot about the man. 'cause we ought fighters of last decades ago. We got a super chat from as zap sam not to be confused with a sat as zap zone or pbc will win bid and sign. But after and that's what. I think right like the way the zona shaken they. I mean as right now get canal across the street. That's what you do it's like. Hey baby you almost sending limited pick you up and then we'll going take you to the shop and the topic on on land and we're going to be on a yacht overlooking the sunset. And then she wanted to marry you. So that's what they want. What canelo and they can do that by winning pers- addicted they could. They could out overbid. Now they get to promote crawford's last fight it's on fox and look at this shit. You see that red carpet. You see how you looking over that fucking mountain into the beautiful hawaiian bg. We did that. This this al hayman way over here. You see what. I'm saying this what we talk about. You see this little. Llc we created for you. Yeah yeah yeah. We got this extra check. Yeah no we got you. Were you make investments all my fighters houses in everything everywhere. Most of them live in miami. Wiz tax-free come on. Let me help you walk with me. Let me show you let me teach you and the sand. That's all it's okay. I got a wanna be taught. You know what i'm saying. He got a one he wanted. He got to walk down the street. There's just simple. we all know. Okay micro say oh herring. Went over there and did better. He sure did. He showed that he was lucky. To find beaumont to invest in him. And bring him up to brad goodman and top rank matchmakers over there. I this kid ain't done. He been working with me. I'm seeing them work with but he's good. Give them a shot one five deal. Let's go let's see we. Will we get from now. Let's just give them a shout. Okay we fuck with you mcintyre. Let's go we give you a shot like we give a nelson a shot steven nelson. That's all we do so that's cool but whereas he retired after gennady fight because he was talking shit about out. So it's like yo. You could go platinum today. Gaddis sell you you little platinum single and break away from your manager. Al hamer because you make all the money because you know you little single wear hot you. Logan naughty lufkin fight went high. It was hot cool. What you going to do after that. You got royalties royalties. Ot's every time that song play. Did you get cut them. Ticket serves the way they our made. Sure floyd he. Colonel every colonel potty getting percentage so let's stop playing man you see taint. Everybody can talk. That's what i'm saying. They learnt me. They learnt me take is the highest paid one hundred and thirty pounder in cincinnati sugar ray where he started his career at. What did he tell you this. Do they come on in this day. In age you still got two hundred thousand buyin pay per view versus barrios versus barrios. Put natural way he put that you knew it with joseph. Di put him in there with with ryan. Put him in there with rowley. Put him in there with anybody and you're going to see anybody. There's a slightly. Because i was at the cross at the barriers fight. I was at the press conference. He was he. Was he swallowing. Draw swallow he wa- that moment was big that and let me tell you for me. It was big. That's what i believe. Oh shit what the. Fuck dr j. This do brought dr j. And he was wearing a jackie's. I'm like what the fuck shit. Now man boy a star. Keep telling ya. it's crazy but my man. He next heavyweight division. Puerto rican mexican. You won't see the big leagues about the final. And he going to be all over. We got busy with the five sixty seven supercharged cryptic number right in the lottery. Like nine cain. Y'all know like those. The numbers on your phone dislike writing order five success. Yeah so it's probably easy to do. johnson bay. Yeah yeah yeah. It was better than one two three. Hey beginning my bring. Mike back donation drive. Show love this panel. Thank you thank you say Over the past year man out hayman has really just showing how how great in how powerful years this box than i was. One of those guys always kinda yonsei critical of what some of the things are still him but just the past year man to see an arbitration for for welder him snatch pack you from the jaws of top rank him one could nello pop possibly given the highest guaranteed today. I mean it is just amazing. Honestly i am putting on a in these different venues enduring show down in texas when everybody was like oh pandemic pandemic. He really been doing a lot of good things to shift from box so. Espn's michael cop injured. Gist reported meyer. Maybe wanna check that in a pre pro as ringnes off a carpenter. Just want to continue to congratulate him on his read. It yes this is important. What we tweet yeah. This is a tweet. From mike cobb injure that was Posted at twelve thirty. Am this morning. He said espn story on wto ordering a terence crawford sean. Border welterweight titled tilt sources said bud was offered a fight with david. Avanesian before this about that. Was i'd for october. Twenty third a rematch. Between porter keith thurman was explored by p. b. seat so so you know what that goes back it goes back to our original. It goes back to our original debate. You know al sitting right now we can. You know maybe sylvia maybe porter they probably on the phone or skype. And they're deciding. What's the better chess move. Do we go with the porter a term and rematch for nothing or do we send one of our soldiers out now. The truth is there's not much left on porter in terms of upside. Yes we can do the garcia fight but again for porter. It doesn't put him in. The mix is just a hey man take this big fight. It don't put them in the mixed. Oh he's still sees his contemporaries. He watches earl. Fight pat gal win or lose and then he watches guys. Maybe get a unification with crawford a duty be like the right move is take the crawford fight. You could literally be on the outside looking in for the next year and a half. If you don't take the crawford fight because if you go the term importer out cool after what are you gonna do. Five four vacancies earls gonna move up and not fight crawford and fuck us all over like i. Don't get what the term in puerto fight is about. Would that be for you on you. Know what big in-house fight as it gets people go qaeda it don't don't they don't go go from. That's what i'm saying. Neither one of them go nowhere. That-that fight is like a dude in the hamster wheel where you go and you'd be ported. What now what you beat them and now can you be determined. Maybe offer two year layoff laws and if you terminate and you'd be like maybe dude again just saying guys jovan last three to four years. We seen this play out time after time after time. What made you think he's going to be any different nap. But be more specific. What's playing well. You mean the bbc. What the way thing. They keeps shit work but that was different. That was different. They have no no no no no no. There's too simple blanket it. They had belts. There was a necessary evil. This is going. this is regurgitating for unnecessarily. We'll see i don't believe he'll make them move. I agree is that we set out the as a soldier to get the fucking belt back. Gold-dipped belot but listen if you listen if you're porter and crawford one of them's in a much better position than the other one of them's about to get data. I'm not saying that's gonna happen. But one of them was intoxicated. David avanesian and the other one's talked to fight thurman all i'm saying is that if that porter crawford fight doesn't happen porter has that safety net because still one of the bigger fights that can be made with who is left. You know rubbed off me about you. You you always used to defend this argument by saying is so titled size. No matter more. I'm ago rematch. This do because he beat me. I ain't gonna go get this fucking belt leads me to undisputed into the unification all big of rematch with thurman. Now there's a ban on all might turn on. I learned it. Pay me more. Pay me mortified thurman for the bell just went over there and took from the dude. Nobody thought i'd take it from what you taught utah for me to be more realistic. As opposed to as opposed to what. I one is a fan. Leave the guess. Yes i go down the road because of you of the most likely scenario and what i can take from that in a positive but because of the owner dan man god damn it man shit my bible but because of the order of the w. b. o. and makes the fight more realistic between port crawford. It's a face split. Sixty forty all you gotta do is go to personally it. Don't matter who the fuck wins. You still get forty percent of the par. It don't matter who wins the bid. You get forty percent of the pie. So if they're in this thirty days. Bob is talking dumb. He ain't talking shit. Puerto one air. I don't care. I get forty percent of the pot no matter what champion gets sixty cool. But why do i to get the whole hunt. You never know you know you still fifty fifty. That ain't that's our heyman getting one hundred percent because now playing chess he'd taken up. Listen listen listen listen listen let me ask you one thing we go and this i i own my god. Listen terminate takes a loss if termine takes a loss right. Can he continue in boxing. Exact question about everybody porter's more likely to take a loss in fife fan still want to see him versus boots. Still wanna see him versus. Virgil still wanna see them versus kind of bent. Because we know he's the fucking porter s. he's the test if dermot take losses like man. I'd do been out he. He only fought twice in four years. He got married view for many house. Winds fifteen times or something but the great. That's it but it's the four years. Mike you twice in four years and you look bad with hustle. Then you lost to an older man impact right now. You take another two years off so like if all i'm saying is the probability of people not really karen whether term and fights again after a loss to porter is higher and more likely than people imported still keep. I still import fight conor ben. I still won't put five virgil because he is the test. He is the test to let us know. Can you really be a welterweight. Yeah but you cabinet. If you saying that you wouldn't care about termine ortiz way. like come on. That's who he is. That's still attack like it's one thing for therm to lose the porter and then not be considered a li anymore and not be considered one of the best division by comparisons to crawford expense. It's a completely different thing for him to lose. That guy. And i mean there's still other avenues in i mean look man who. Yo what's his name Arizona edison maranda like that do laws. How many times. He was a gatekeeper breeze. Got all the big fights like you know what i'm saying like auto same order no only been around for like it's been consistent. You always give like keep their ms been the knockout guide to the freeway from one time to sometime and then now you know. He went through the injuries disallow. His perspective has changed so much that even though mike that he's only lost one time you know the that's the view in the public if he loses so you can keep them like many job can be keeping you gotta show me say oh keep their became. Beat these guys so me. I'm not saying unified champion. I'm not saying that they can keep. What i'm saying is keith right. He he took off. Two years comes back fight. Sausalito lopez takes off. How many months from their brief were a-coming again. Comeback fight manny. Pack takes another two years old. So let's say he fights this puerto in loses. It's highly likely he'll take what two years off if keith thurman and guys got made today who you're taking us army i'm picking so so. So what are we saying. We keep them. It could beat ado. Who had they built right now. He got a bill. He'll really got me pat series backyard. His hill really got a bell. But i got one from can stone super chatty he says shot outside the king. Let's go mine. We got another one here from diaz v. She says this will show. How good bud really is at one forty seven because shaw never beats the elite. But you want to see a rematch. Every time exactly thank you and that is what i'm saying. He got a longer shelf life. Like people want to see. Sean back if thurman loses is gonna add to the narrative of do retire he he he. Sometimes he run tom's he he he thinking about his wife he got married. He had a kid like come on. We've heard that before. So all i'm saying is. I only brought that up to say the our could take the risk by sending portable because if he loses to but we still want to see them back that fight with thurman still let thermos stay on his show send soldier to go get that bell he gonna get the fucking ring. Florida the kings kings of the rings. Whatever that movie lord of the ring the lord you somebody gotta go slater dragon you just listening to you right that it does make a lot of sense. Tell porter listen. Go with there. Go get that bell. If you don't get that bell. I still got some for you. But if you do get that bell the positions on that. Pbc bra asa call do zoom contel. Kief he got a fucking spa sauna. Get them ready for crawford. Fuck that disa- team we need. This doubt out combat and tears up against the first boss important next brad. They got early early early. Give them point out. If i meet us what i would do we need to go champ. Come on his running. Like yo yo where you eating that where they got some. They got to deals or fox. You were analysts on fox. You park has them blew up. We've been putting work for a decade and my main jumped on the podcasting boom. He wanted the hottest thing smoking. Yo you could go ahead and take that chance. They set you up for life they such and if you get that bell is everything. You said your legacy. This said this is a career. I got titles in quotes we could google sean versus right now. And you'll see him saying like terraces the fight i want. That's his quote terrorists the fight out one next. That's his quote. Me and tara's got a toll. I mean i'm just saying i don't know why we make an excuse. His he wanted despite i if he go any other route we got a question was going on and we can't just keep saying oh i'll give them a better fight. No if it ain't the mikey fi and mike ain't legacy mike is just some stay busy money fight for you to get on paper view and fake the funk because guess what that ain't gonna make earl fight you. Maybe if you do if you like three fifty with mike even year. Yeah obviously economics makes sense for earl comeback into a pay-per-view rematch with you. But if you don't if you don't crack better than earl did which way he did three twenty five hundred forty five what we even talking about like really well. We even saw him on. The fight is to do is. They need to negotiate. It needs thirty days to put this shit on paper view. Like i said give corporate three front. I like with somebody else. If i wanted to be made whether this time and take take less make the big fight get your first pay per view with good numbers my my first paper with those oscar de la hoya but okay get. Hey oscar. i get that. I get that but let me ask you. Do you think the pay per view does well. I say i believe it does better than Spades import so then. That's unnecessary evil. Because if it does better than the dude you trying to hunt down now you not only the world not only bob not only at how it's like you see they wanna see me. All i needed was a good partner. It gives them some chips. It gives them initiative to say. Damn what is that to going fucking earl. And it's the same dance partner. Listen mandated. i ain't gotta take this. If you want to build your be your soldier building winter soldier captain. America bringing it. Yeah if the belt if you don't negotiate right and let's say bob wins the purse bid. What what what could what could put a just do anyone who anybody. We didn't negotiate. We went to purse bid. I'm trying to tell you do pay per view. I'm trying to tell you let's be fair. You didn't wanna do it. Thirty days goes by we. Purse bid out on even be. Ha- bob wins. Would you think is happening. Mario you've been in business fucking ten years. Probably they go another route. Exactly you win a purse bid you get your mom you lost your deposit. You lost your deposit and you were and you ain't getting puerto because we walking away from the fight or we've seen it happened exactly so any safe plenty of evidence. All i'm saying is why jeopardize the biggest fight a your career. You know we still talk about money. To man is rich man he rich. This is a necessary fight. Coffered fans believe it'll sell. This is a necessary and you said this your friend like why are you standing on your own. I get my mandatory minimum. And he's got to be a slave contract. This your friend. Tell bob to pay him right. Make it happen. There's a budget. There's a budget you can find how to make that budget work. That's just the bottom line is a budget. That's why pace his undercoat. Because there's a budget they gotta take another. He pays everybody on. Heats them with the going on. Just on the car was was was bad. I don't know last one with bad. That's that's the point. 'cause he paying but his fighters though he put him on. I bet you hang in pay bat back. No not taking less of heat heater. One sets the car da so he taking money. Don't get hit thirty five. Milken mellows not in crawford situation. That's the that's the thing you know. I get dick on a whole new level. Aj no besides you know besides being on a level he's not the one in necessite in need of a of a dance for like. He's he got a plethora choose firm. He is the dance part of that. But that's what i'm saying. So he don't he don't need no one they need him. Quote unquote needs to puerto fight. Unless he's just gonna keep waiting for the earl fight doubted with verify. Best for budget do in. My opinion is i jamal. Yes active. wbo. Yes gay costano. Homegoods mail that. That's a really won't fifty. That's the only way you're gonna get you got to be two times undisputed going for three and just told me he could send you a link. Cannella is taking less money. He his contract was thirty. Six million guarantee and now he got like seven scene for one of these files remember would in that contract he had to get. I mean and obtained came from europe and that was a a finding that nobody only but what would would end at thirty six. I believe aqaba was getting like bad. Right and oscar is no longer in the pitcher right remember cannella to make a career high pay day from plant dating less now no. He's making a career high now to my with plan. No could choose the pie anyway. If the cash cow got a bunch of money not going to do it. How you act a guy who make appeal to do again because the dude that we talk about is the one that needs the fight. But it's this i i get. Let me get to see dub who says sean. Don't have to fiber to get spence rematch. Here we go here we go again this fight because everybody route. I mean he. He ain't gotta fight. Burn burn me. No spence was clear. Spence was clear. I'm finding paquito. And i won't crawford next moving up. If you porter in term and getting you know fucking spence rematch. He moving up. You want him to stick around. You better have what he need which is undisputed out an urban but if he loses to to crawford it it. It changes things a bit for who a for for for spence's positioning and for reporter. Because he he ed. That's his plan. That's earls plan you know. Fight fight fight goes through fights. Then move up. But if he fights to crawford and loses sean could still can still get a fight with with smits no rematch respects wider. Fuck would spends rematch. Sean losing crawford. Well obviously the rematch would probably crawford. I mean spencer crawford to put up with the with the with the way these have always spoke spent. Go back but you mixing up. You says fencing crawford to you. What are you trying to say. I saw how far do you want me to go back all the way. 'cause you you just said spence and coffered to that never has no you said that. Why would he. why would he rematch porter. And i'm telling you the obvious. Firewood privately beat terence crawford to if he lost crawford. You wanna know because it's porter fighting crawford i did. You depend follow following. I'm laws man. You lost me after after to how far you go says spence and crawford to go back to the beginning porter right. If if if he fights if spence okay spence's plan is to fight to fight and move up right. i gotta take them all the way back. Mike it's like. I couldn't even i don't even like to play with. I gotta take them all the way back you said and then mike Agreed to it all right spence as a plan. Oh i get now. No you're right. You're ahead of me ahead of me i get you. He's saying spence won't give port of the rematch. Because the obvious rematch would be the bigger fight crawford spence to cause of spencer's plan to fight manny then crawford and then move up so you saying if he's gonna stick around it would be the crawford rematch not for the sp spence puerto rematch. Yes and if porter porter was had any chance engage in that fight. It would be only if earl lost. You know because if if earl earl earl doesn't get the fight With With crawford the two because of whatever reasons maybe coffered just wants to say. Hey listen that's it. I'm not giving you that fight. Then then he likelihood of him having that opportunity would be there for showing. Yeah but he can't just say give there's gonna be a rematch clause unless there isn't which we've been seeing more and more of that around you know car me ports going you know didn't have a rematch clause for whatever reason we got see dub dub another one. This is the bigger fight and just as hard bud froze dan. Yeah but that's what i'm saying just as hard without the same trinket you need that belt though. And that's what he brings. He brings that bell You know they offer him that that that fight with You know whoever that is thurman my bad But now that ain't is that in any no better on the line. It's just say no bet on. I don't understand how we don't think our thinking damn we could really go get that bill like cambozola hurt him like kavaliauskas. Drop them ben. Evita's heard him like. What are we talking about here. Like what the fuck are we talking about. Like y over like puerta did recap aims like bro. Did you see the broadway come on. Brooke wasn't brooke was just boxing. Just like you who has by. I'll send our watches boxing. That's why say cassano over there to fight Knows with guys which man he knows the guys that he probably has the upper end against. You don't feel like i'm not saying that. Maybe he doesn't feel like quarter. Has that upper him or anybody for that matter. Besides i big in the welterweight division. The one thing that has been apparent to me for the i mean forever is that belts can take a backseat more times than not to the stars of the welterweight division mayweather. They didn't need a bell. You know he was the belt pack. You didn't need a belt. He was the bell delaware. So we're all sitting. He's like. I got the bill. The belt spence pack yale spends beats back. Yeah he's the man you know what i mean. It don't matter what sanctioning bodies recognize him. The world will recognize as the guy that dethroned pack. Yeah you know i. In this era. I mean in a pack. Yeah wins you know the the the lineup is still there for him to get fights and you know. Choose to fight. So i think the more important thing for him is that he has the premier welterweight matchup right now in his neck of the woods and also all those named veggie brought up. Who who hurt. Terence crawford you gotta look at those guys fate by the end of that fight. All those guys go stop. Oh yeah yeah. It's it's a fight but none of none of those dudes a porter porter walks through gambo portability scattered alaska's porter beats brooklyn rematch especially that version of brooke. You know but We got rich mendez. Rich men disease that says. I think that mikey looked fat against spence and doesn't carry that weight by his recent photos stat. One forty five loma and tank. Also taylor tha i would do the tank by if they give them now. He jump on a tank would be but always want to see the loma fight. So really smith says mike is back to thumbs up emojis to modi's l. Might get in that. John seen pop that john senior. Return mike man for anybody. That doesn't follow you. Let them know where to follow your man. Before i open up these phone lines you know the number to call in one four to five five six nine fifty to forty one. We talk in. Terence crawford shawn porter. It's finally been ordered by the wbo. We got thirty days. Clock is ticking. But porter deletes his postseason. Now has us all wondering. Is there a big giant conspiracy for this fight not to happen. Gross the bosses back. Find them right here on youtube at. You can follow me mike. Gore's are just type yellow in the chat. So just cook on my name. You'll page to look nurse margaret. Do i don't think so. Because i never could get. I think you can do it on the phone. And that's it. I've been able to do it on the phone. But i don't think you could do it any other way. Okay yeah so just just put my gone sports in the search. Yeah and going. And i earlier. I put the linked to his latest video. So you could click on that to A really good Video on it was on Al yes thank you very very good content. Mike very very good content. We do have another super chat that popped in report. We go to the callers. Mel h with the ten dollars super chat says what i'm nest. This is one thousand proof instagram. I sent you my charlotte ticket. Puertas going to live. Wow wait. then he bet on a knockout sign or raw fifty thousand dollars off their jaw. Yeah that's ticket. And he says. I sent you my ticket. Puerto is going to get the nod on the cards against crawford keep grinding. i appreciate. Y'all man you know. I just feel like he has it though before like i don't know i don't know we'll see be right. I'm not gonna thousand on the drought eighteen hundred fifty dollars on it. Boy you a bad hilton. Be dre stevens with the five dollars. Super jets manny beats spence. Or if puerto beats crawford. Do we ever see bud versus spence. Saw a few of your shows mike. Shout to you leadre stevens. Yeah many men's and puerto beats crawford. Do we ever see bud versus spence. I think yeah. I think we see it at some point. I really do whether it's line whether it's going to have the nostalgia that it has now at some point we see it. You know what i mean. I just feel like these guys are destined to fight at some point. And i think it'll always carry some sort of weight you know. It's better if they stay undefeated. It's better if it's for the undisputed welterweight title but at the end of the day. 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What up so you hate what you wanted. A when i he was two weeks lake down combat to handle only take a passing product back bigger. It's friday gilgal without my baby. A shout do business Simple i don't care. I don't care who got to pick what i don't care by out of team at a step up on fox network i'll be bus brings but can secure network do because he got a lot of big feisty can be made. Pvc so whatever direction to go in managing the same. No porter won't be the first be last. And i still got bus. Stop florida i think and i if i see a justice to style get in the ring with. I don't think porter's aggression pittsburgh 'cause but know how to fight He could adjustments other guys. Y'all compare them to they. Don't meet those Claim blaming it on. It just wanted to sort them out dog somebody. 'cause they don't know how to reset step back encounter not comfortable and have to foot speed balanced ponce's from certain angles to push them directly in front of porter Energy saying bus stop imported. Let's get to fight me. cut it now. The new york city. What world do we number one weight. Division we got hot sauce. Draws a ak aka aka original the leader of the button the classes man. You'll gross. you're gonna get mad. When i tell you being a dramatic boost and stop both boys best and crossing. You'll never give it do metron aka. You gotta get some more seamlessly. Seventy five shooting for rubber was good and they do me. Don't wanna lose weight man know that do he told me he's doing from seventy five mainly just need some more seamless your We're talking about crawford and toward right. This is just like talking about. Aj fury I hope that what happens. I think crossing. I think will be the first guy could stop importer but Crawford by billy did go in dubai. So i don't think gonna happen unless the top unless these top and i will pay for that because i pay for the postal fight. I'll pay the conflict. You know -til was gonna call scores. She called krugman. Billy did disrespectful. Bad crawford and billy. But that's crazy. They offered them avenue. And we glossed over that like we got the double back on ally like damn. He got to be tight. How you have an easy. They just gave him. Do you said you was going to get me. I was supposed to be in tofte impact gal now all of a sudden. It ain't no rumors earl fi impact. I know they just announced that you want me to avanesian. This is crazy man. They gotta make this puerto. If i see what. I'm saying my wad gotta make this puerto by data ones telling him. We got you pack. Yeah in qatar wine qatar. 'cause we can't pay for here why because of the pandemic but we're going to get it in qatar. We got you we got you. Listen we got you then. All of a sudden falls apart. And it's like earl announces it and it's in america. You gotta be mad. They commensurate with avenue. And you've got to be met. You gotta be looking at dumb. i go. don't fuck this up. Don't offer them. no million. Don't go to purse bid. Don't fuck this up for me. Because obviously they've been messing up. I mean i. Don't david ebeneezer for october. Honestly i like david having agent but he just not on the level to tears. Crawford knows i'm a big david. Abney twice to hauge. He went over there and be logged. Okay okay look at. That's how it is when you won't even paying attention towards demon avenida. It'd be just killing in his own. Not not just the fuck out. Not only do that. Beat him with me. Machine me machine in a pretty pretty good fight but david mann. David davis bad. Dude man he he can punch any loss to lamont peterson to he ate in a wbz. Oh yeah but that that that just saying why would they skip. Virgil skip porter. Mikey michael makinson regis me machine to dreux. Ns castillo clayton. How you laying on david avenue. I i'm gonna be real virgils busy with egypt. So that takes number one and number and number five out right. Then you got sean available. Mikey available michael makinson. He ain't ready from the uk. Ain't ready but jaren gerald ns available christina clayton available a how you landing and often david skip to the aid. That's that's crazy like you got out. He just fought in america versus lipid nets. And mikey is sean. Those andhra and those great names. Great names out of those four names. Which one of these aren pay-per-view shawn porter. Mikey garcia gerard. Ns casteel klay in david avenue. Ian the last ns clayton and avenues and not pay worthy innocent great fighter but he just don't have the the recognition yet from the people people. Yeah so the hawk he behan got it for the foot of in a big big big big big population. You know what i mean. But mike imported there for you Even mad at and that is very very true. Let's see what we got here. Looking like brandon in cincinnati saying net. Oh oh shit. I'm all over here. Among screen sharing mojo We supposed to be right here doing this. Ns you got. You gotta get knock outs with nyaka own on the panel. Cool boxing a a lady that she got a good channel. They're not gospel with not she get on twitter to sell she. She she she. She's good at what she does. Well i mean big. Little small trying to collaborator with them all year. No what i'm saying. We're going out to stone. Bong book sale in colorado should be owned. By what would i sitting there. And i'm hoping to get done man every we gotta stop Stop dwelling on his arbitrary. One million in that same interview said he can get two million. We've unwilling to do two million and back in. I like it's like a two hour interview. Our our plus interview on fridge million joe came up and he was laughing. He was saying no. But we'll do two million if you want like back in. We could work on that so he said show right now. Pan crawford he's right now paying crawford. Sometimes a hundred percent owner his minimal. It's at but sell sixteen thousand tickets. He didn't cut so that money too. So just because wasn't fighting on pay per view. Don't mean the guys don't contractually ways to make more money then. A minimal guarantees you driving on the highway and say you'll minimum. The minimum speed is fifty five fifty five or do you drive the matt closer to the maximum the inside so the minimal is what it takes for them to get in the ring so and if they go to persevere. We know that the minimum bid has to be at least but offers minimal. So you ain't gonna get a real fight here. I think there's more likely to happen to not. We was talking about it on the back hall about some other people getting involved to try to push this over the finish line and i'm pretty sure it's gonna get done. Oh come on now what you mean. What was who these. Other people you insinuating get involved and get it over the long man it when you just think about this when a guy is going to be three agent a lot of people. Listen we might act like book. And bob arum's talked all of the crap about the but we know that in a costa from sixteen plus thousand people there to watch him and it was over twelve thousand people in the same madison square garden to watch him and the unknown in cadillac is coming off the draw so these people the same people flying him around the country flying out to the desert wherever yet right now with his family doing waterfall. This fight on get done. There's going to be the last fight over there in his again you can. You can pretty much see. And that's what i said. That's what i took from his sweet. Thank you stone. Stone obviously has a very good relationship with that team. So you know. I kinda take where he says as You know law. And that's what i enjoyed. Did my just him too. 'cause i talked about saying they install boats team. I pretty much take it as you know. Say law me too. And that's why i said when i interpreted that sh- like style. He's telling us right now. Like shut the fuck up. I got this is coming soon. Sh- yacht talking yet thinking you know this ain't going to happen or that is no watch. We come in soon. And i don't i don't see him putting that if he thought he was going to be in a biz situation. I just you know. I think he's thinking he's in a good place like if you if you don't feel that then you won't put out that tweet. I just. I just believe we are getting a coz i again porter pulling it. Down is different. That shit shook me up. It's like damn so. Is he going to turn down a good offer to because i but we got jay miller says welcome back. Mike ness love the competitive advantage. Hat key okay. let me see. Welcome back. Mike ness love the competitive advantage hat. Keep up the good work for. I guess because. I'm wearing my my my say i'm biased to plant plant. You say sent me a hat loose. Ed i was wearing my social crew shirt yesterday. Man you give me the free the free paraphernalia. I'm a rocket. Fuck would you shout out the social crew for live. I'm waiting for the day for him to get his cameron in gym and it shows that you know his story. You know as a latino mexican latino in new york city first of all like that's not that's not common you know. And then he turns around and he gives his life to these children he part of that list cops and kids funding goes dead on that he continues the gym and he's turned all his amateurs all his amateurs are now televised pros. It doesn't matter how good they've gotten how far they've gotten their all his amateurs he's groomed. I mean think about jt. For one moment the he can turn all three of his boys in the pros that shows his skill and what he was able to pick up along the way we talk about a do deterred. Chris colbert pro. Nikita bali pro. Rashit nazi pro. Jero big baby miller an akita nicole asylum. Pro- he got lennox allen which a few years ago all your may plus six hundred money because a meal allen pro so let's just stop. I mean not not just the wrong but we need to highlight this man. He's he's official. You know shot to adidas that once upon a time sponsor them and got the gym all those oh isuzu carrots in will potential olympic hopeful. Who's turn pro. That was enough. I mean you know. i hope. He's still trading shoe. That's all i'm saying. Because he got him to the olympic. So i don't know i don't know what's gonna happen with that pro. Debut i seen shoe was about the fight on a top brand card. So that shocked me. You know 'cause you know obviously on the pepe. Saad the perez. But we're going to coach. My myers is in connecticut was oppenheimer connecticut. Seattle washington. pbc are you available. Mr z go-to much in who. Thank mr the c. Baby yo-yo-you to do. I think that this is the san move in house. Very this is gonna get made. Maybe individ and he gives that formula millions mockingly. Lead man burgoyne. Abc porter getting something. We're nosy you know. Finally get some but But being chumporn one hundred percent. What happens all that baby. Bub baby blue crazy now. You fight in. Utah ness cannella camera. People sounds up on but bus offers. I'm talking with him against the pbc fighter without even being a pvc fighter. When you be calling. Hey you know. He made the right decision. When you make the right decision cannella mix. The ready team. Made the right decision taken. I want idea burn. Made the right decision. Fuck with him. Don't hate all right. Yeah so No hate no hate over here on this side. Vcu like inside knowledge own. Like what next i mean. He doubted almost certain that he's going to pbc. Yeah he seems. That seems like it if you burn man to me until you look at the wilder fellow at josh blueprint and just do five by five. No need to down to a specific promoter or network. Xactly have that flexibility where you can go up and do whatever we want when you want it like my garcia okay. I think he deserves it to you. Know you look at fighters who've accomplished what they've accomplished and have been able to go and do that. You know guys like ward guys like koto Over the last decade and and in a guy like crawford fits that you know that recipe dose sat out to jimmy man. I swear to god jimmy you coming all the way to chat with me man. I'm telling you yo. My man literally clicked when i was promoting and made a fucking fly a digital video flyer but yo- at all the names champ I don't want darren get in jail. That i just said lorenzo you know at least put leave it where i say like darren. I mean lorenzo. Darren and henry clip. Did we go on out to austin in. Hobbs what up. Hey good morning dead. And he finally got it right now. Say a gromov. Mario ready sparring on youtube looking good. You're living room. Look exactly like my living room is crazy. Yeah Listening to well decorated it for me. Buddha that's crazy. You know senator see some interior designers but we're not meant as far as the subject I got i got sean set intense. Bro i'm writing somber especially have to dispense fight. That means a dog. He didn't get knocked down with it. He's gonna win by roast tinian clutch but And the terrorists can tear him apart then. Shit that's proxies i many. That's the dog. I wouldn't wanna fight. That's the one you just don't want to buy. Isn't it. that you can't beat them or or anything like that. It's just you know no matter what. Actually i'm gonna be fucking fight and then Yeah man amen. Shout out to my fans boesch. That's my son jordan baker I'm the best promoter. Boorda was already. Like i rendition. Married shout to austin's brother. You know i'll come through the dove. Come into some sort of the rematch. The headline to headline in december. I want to be part of the winning side. Puerto wars five come join. Acs the promotion. That's dangerous shit. You know what. I mean But that's my car. I gotta get back to work man. So the mario shout out to this new slash opennow. Maybe the show you mike. The boss he. I think he dipped out without even giving his youtube channel. Men don't forget the follow. Mike on Grow sports right here. On youtube dot com. I'm assuming it's going to be forward slash gross on sports. I know he's got well over three thousand sub so he should be able to have his named url at youtube. Dot com forward slash. Mike on sports. It was fun having him on. Look forward to get them back on. Let me go out to tennessee. Would up james partner. Help outs my property in bell. If i come out on my living. No you know somebody way known as paying. Babies seamy piston repulsive. We're playing basketball. I see me in the pulse. Tv audio chris. Best part of waking up another slow from the eighties main janos. My cook shot out of the dome side outside panel besides out of my dwells main making a special guest appearance man. It's been a while. Since i've heard the collection of voices together and i started getting the style for a second i like him hopefully will come back yellow with the topics man. Good good news. Good stuff on the horizon thank you. Wbz office dipping up. And and putting it out. Chris get this conversation going. Hopefully they can get their fight. May be a good challenge. Quarter and cross lamar. I definitely want to see. It is the litmus test moving away. let's make this happen. Heke outspend welterweight. Division is definitely getting turned up right now. My end of the year is gonna be. It became clearer duration to this undisputed. Hopefully man i'm gonna hang up and listen to some more callers. My i appreciate tv for coming up on this topic out the appreciate the community. The shots out man. I'm hang list. Hey daddy this adult arthri sold the point saw. Can you hear me yes. You're all over the place today. You started off by saying that. The him deleting his tweet is not gonna happen. And this and that then you get to calls from jay mak and blown all of a sudden. You're like yeah it's going to happen. Now what do you really believe. Remember that i say crawford put out forty eight hours ago like coming soon. Sh so i said that was positive. It could be you know. It's both ways bros. Both ways like. I don't really don't funny. Funny looking good turn callers. Is this funny concern calls. Then all of sudden you you change your mind. I've mean you don't believe in stone bone into the connection that he has to that team. Well he's been saying that he's gonna somebody now for like three years. He's been telling us. Well what is the difference now. Old back can play the calls. I mean the tweet. The tweet is the difference the day like i. Look at it sean. He's calling the shots either. He wants to or not. Wbz's they can't enforce anything you know. They got no power. These actually got no power. They just want money so at the end of the day. It is what it is. Either he takes it or he doesn't and he fights who want them to fight. That's all what do you want. What do you wanna see. I wanna crawford by somebody. Is that somebody porter. That's the subject today. Do you want this fight it good. That'd be good. Ralph or rather raff. I college station. What up you know. I disagree that the sanctioning bodies don't have power. I think they have too much power and when they make bad decisions by stripping or on. Wbal i appreciate them mandating. Despite it's a great fights pbc fighter. So if and i do think some is gonna win because when both bought mean machine. I didn't expect that the almost got knocked out. And i think sean is going to be too much especially with his. Last performance against earl also think of better boxing intense and i just think when you find a a better fighter yourself you only get better. So i see. Sean beedon terence crawford and so he has the belt and i hope they find who think that second bell and keep it in the bbc side because these fights not happening not happening happening. It's ridiculous but also let's not act like the draft. The reason why these fighters by i understand the sentiment bein. When a person like pacquiao who already has a name in all these belts in the past but reason why pack pack yeah because he got eight eight division world titles way jordan's door and he got sticks championship raise brady got seven rings all right all right. Don't forget the number to call in one four to five five six nine fifty to forty one press one and voice your opinion right here on. The voice of the people hotline. We got a super chat coming in. You got sixty seconds to come in and get on the border. 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So don't forget the telephone ella friend you can also bought tickets if you want to be in the building lava. I'm telling you. I've been told the tank is going to show up. I'm told doesn't miss. Lorenzo truck simpson fight. We all know that. I was in atlanta last week. Calling some other action for the tristar. Promotions and you know devon haney a. d. h. p. fighter and hp owner. Because he's the ceo was there for his two fighters in darren. Cunningham is also a d. hp fighter you know. Calvin four trains rental truck simpson which talking about big names on tv the big names in atlanta. Because it's going down to show down in a town we're going out to j. t. in dallas would like the way i want to talk to you. Turn off your station you can you hear me. You was up. was a very biased. Shutout bradley on you know. I think nixon commentating show no appreciate shout out that you thought you with my boys you know. I'm gonna see the top though. I is on the way up from you like dan. So but based on the topic I think everybody underestimate bud. Ab beating sean portable c. Thank about it. Would i see with sean porter. Every five he bended he might have lost or he made a close fight made a rugged fight. You just never know venture. I'm close size. Might turn to tell. Upset does he. He was He garment tough. Fight with danny dan. He punched like a pillow. I still understand that if yeah pillow pans by dan. It wasn't on let his hands go move I just think he's a tough tough fight. You know this could be a good test for Bullcrap it burned coming. Hand stops on. Puerto which i don't see happening is the is the race of eyebrows. Everybody that was shown couldn't get him out of there. Two knockdowns agent burner aerospace. Got right quick. He shook it back. Is shot like checks chest and he never was really heard from. You got up like he kicked. We're back to fight so burqa come in stop with shawn quota. That's big right there. It did that's looking at them. Has anybody stop porter. Not even book in in brooke was in his prime prime. I mean that would be impressive. He's gone down does so no one's capitalize off those flash knockdowns that they've they've caught him with speaking of that. Lv slugger with the five dollar super checked. Says when did sean port. Did you read this. No of wendy shawn porter develop knock out power. Who is the last box or even knocked down. Some of these. Do sound like sugarhill but drops sean but drop shawn i. I can see that. I can see that. That's reporter will be tough. I promise you that yes. And i think that's all they really care about. And that's all that we really can't. We just wanna a nice tough fight. That indicates he's in a real fight. That's it Listen i just wanna say if you follow us on instagram at the box invoice and you re post the flyer that we are going to be commentating and live streaming lorenzo truck simpson and darren cunningham's and henry martinez fight along with mir and g i will repose to my sixty thousand followers you know. Get your name out there. Maybe you're a coach coming coach or content creator. Listen that's how we intermix the audiences and intermix our brands and help each other grow so share the word that we're going to be having live fights right here on youtube dot com last box invoice with truck and the gif as well as can port a train henry martinez and i will repose. You re tweet you. Because i want everybody to know we got these live fights going out to true control contra know how do you pronounce it is control. He could through yeah. Can you spell it from our yard. We light is k. e. n. t. r. a. l. Got him are gotcha. Yeah talk to alison. i appreciate child. Gosh where's but i don't see sampoerna. Give stop no one had been able to stop show importer channel puerta guy better resume. Can't crawford that was just starting to count. All of it shown poor guy better resume. His pool is better. Terence crawford so i think it can be close by. I'm my by twelve rounds. But i see a close look like a decision. 'cause shop were shore that he got great with every bite. It he also. That's my call. You guys right. Don't forget at seven. Pm eastern time. We're back with our flagship show where we do previews and predictions as well as take your calls in have you you know. Give your preview of the fight. And you make a prediction of this weekend's feis plus we mix in news and notes any lines out there. We are going to have a bunch of guests only panelists and other content creators in the boxing youtube community. Were also going to have to big time guests. We have the very tough and rugged e bain bridges who fought through a championship level fight with a completely shut and puts on some of the best way unions. Boxing's has ever seen. And then we have the son of alleging that he's not looking like julio cesar chavez junior. He's looking like his father. Kosta zoo tim zoo doing what we expect. Father son duos to do like. If you're the son of a legend fight like that legend in the old tim. he's out here. Taken heads off. You know what i mean. He's he's putting on good shows in australia. We're going to have him on the shot. Finally get access about damian. Djamil made those fights for you term fights for you so i'm excited seven. Pm is going down. Tim show ebony or ebony have been bay bridge is you might be right ebony. Bridges yeah i think it is. You're right. I always always. We're gonna be talking about the joe joyce carlos sacrified is this week and kris jenkins also on that card. Because you need to hit macau's man. I swear to god. This is why. I'm telling you was little goals. You know about the flight from kelley to atlanta just to be love august four showdown innate with bill in baby my message for this woman often. Salou james doesn't keep out. The last one shot to done del mar last one. Was that the last one man. Just shot out to everybody to support man. We know what the what did. Jd say is up for man and his up from here to here him and his sons you know. Make sure you're following him you know he's posting some of that sparring on board awards Group chats if you aren't boorda was goop chat you need to do so where you can see not only border wars fighters but you can follow the careers three young amateurs coming up ranks. You know you're now you know before slow. It's going to be hard to get an interview when they blow you. Know how these fighters as many blow out of views like crawford man. But you gotta you gotta have order words chat though just a heads gotta have iphone to be network awards. Check facebook gook chat facebook group chat. Oh yeah yes yes. We'll definitely being there but yeah don't forget tonight. A flagship show. What are we got. This is like a logan. Paul anderson silva is being talked about crazy. Kid gets a big fight out the big fight after big fight. Don't matter yeah you're right. He could win lose and then also triple g and Morada morada are finalizing getting close. So there's plenty of topics to talk about Along with the this weekend's fight so yeah brandon davos go to you. I don't think i never heard that. I don't think. I don't think i could be wrong. I feel like maybe i went to you. I would you know. Tell me not yet. Oh chad he played some lifestyle price. Nine slept with a call for this ourself. we're going to deal with a okay I don't see a reason why does doesn't give me if like to offer about those that you could go to be a key what you really works. So i can't proceed schon sean as nuts. He can't l. Talk him into doing something else in health l. Offer to this in house. They saying so. Keep them coming up two years layoffs as big as a fight crawford. I argued noble microsoft straight saying. Yeah guess that's an easier fight for good money if you wanna take it easier quite good money but that ain't a bigger fight in a better fight. That's a bitch that's taking the easy way out. I said there's no reason it's been ordered so bob doesn't throw the right number. You could go to purrs. Bidding is is free for all very game for the highest bidder. So yeah this shit happen. I'm taking all bits. I'm even go take knockout. Don't even wanna straight bit. I'm willing to bet but knocks him out. Just because i know nobody going to be willing to bet straight up with all that shit people talk about bud. So i'm at though you're bone. Take the knockout. And if you don't knock him out our pay you but that's my caller natia man. You need to get their gordon knockouts with night. Going to panel young dominican. You know pretty dominican. Young lady named mica k. On and one day doing set it up like you should be on the bison voice. He's taken context. Did yeah i could do that. Yeah i could definitely do that. Like i said make thursdays. Just you heard michael. Has this trip eating boxes show. My man always finds a way to make sense. Mega delays low extracurricular activities breath fun. No one else who else we got coach. My boomerang would up was going off fellow Ain't got much on it I don't believe is going to happen here. Announcement assigned. I mean like you said we've been talking about for years so i'm tired of going down that road unless somebody signs or somebody on mean says something that makes sense in a higher position but besides that Cash back august fourteen to also just want who is top ranked. 'cause i see some strange shit happened the other day. Top top-ranked put his fight on youtube channel and promoted it. I was on the fun. I'm not sure I don't even know where you take me. Set him back august fourteenth way. Hit me back hoping land. I know i to three thousand atlanta atlanta atlanta. Also now you hit me back in training some shit. But that's a good show. Mccall shit But that is herb herb ardy oh we got stainless in the building. You know that s keeps you all the way at the bottom chan with that. That's what that's all about right dir. You'd be the bottom. You'll get seen with bill black belt. Dopey green chain. You congested nose. Firestone's ep voice. That people now outlet scientists service. Week your website in stainless. I guess you working. So ohio's boxing was. Ohio was good. Should our luddite man sounds good. A happy man. I just don't think that's going to happen now. I was the man. I'm just seeing that. You said porter deleted. The i did see that He deleted the post now so funny. Because i actually talk to. Kenny and kenny was telling me about how certain things like you said certain things that happened in yet. The sloat you know. I'm gonna say this. He pull he told quarter slowdown. And that's how you do business in the public. You know what i mean. Business with showers being aggressive. You remember that. I was calling up out. Don't work like that out on do businesses like. That's just facts. We know that fights get made when we when they when this already aired on the dossier indigenous. But i wouldn't be surprised if alto quarter to take it down. I think it's more about leverage our hate to say but if crosser fights porter in coffers stops porter this is beyond his. It gives him a lot of leverage and earl spencer negotiation. It's all about the solemn is politics and that's the thing i don't like about boxing but it's about leverage if quarter can get If carl porter and he actually can stop porter it would give him a lot of leverage. Think they looking at it from that standpoint because our love senate fighters with no bills over the top rank. We have seen that plenty of times but this one i just think it's more about the leverage. That's just my opinion. I'll swallow tickets. Go happy outside of your opinion. What ken to do you wanted to hell. Who wouldn't absolutely fax crawford needed opponent. No i say. Ken wanted this. Can one it killed. This was before it is our happened. Can't yeah yeah. This is before that but that was. They actually was looking at other opponents. I'll talk to kenny. Part of money. Go and they had on other opponents even have to talk ten opponents. But you know. I can't really speak on that and then dermott got through. Stormin wasn't even on the list. So that's a fact. Thurman was thrown in after. I got off the phone with him. A couple of days later thirty name was mitchell. He wasn't even own that so it is what it is but i don't see nothing i just don't i don't know i would love this fight in these to happen. I embrace it. Let's go all right. Let me get to stainless would up. Stay mutagens yes. The joy of a boom around. Sorry about that. I get caught up. Working at my home is away from this walking around gluten so like i need it by a blue loosen somewhere else so i had to go grab it But go show just probably the first one. I've got to get off for a week. I mean do. I think the fight will happen out so mean. I was excited. When i when i was saying people screen shots or to santa clock sticking but our in i don't i guess i got up saying usual shop order fashion right now. Office is he's done at the second time right with the crawford thing will Will you know is another the reason that i didn't do it but he wanted to speak on it. So you know. I i can't keep Been on On campaign is year until the fight on all. I'm not interested. I hope it happened is a good fight. I think it'd be a good test. Foot crawford is people say i think. Cyp was the first. i heard. Say it a while ago. A like the gatekeeper at a championship. Or the or the orange the top tier of welsh ways. And he is you know. I think crawford has more tools in. It may go twelve rounds but it'd be a couple knockdowns in there. you know. maybe both us well. I doubt it because porter satisfied. There's flinches but he's a a rough and tumble gaza. You notice you're gonna get good output in bag good performance reporter every time and you right. If if chief lose guinness probably going to be to. Indy might retire on there so it was better for him to try to fight gas and get the bill as opposed to taking a fight reporter. Who was been active wok. Eastbound sitting on a bench is is two years now right since the pack outfight. So that's another two years of inactivity and i mean as i. I'm a hardcore. I don't even think of key. I think at a time to waste. Because he's just so inactive bay he he not at the forefront boxers i think about the way division so is probably better. Family tried to fight to get get his belt back by technically since this the wbz super But like i. I hope we see but i'm trying to live in reality this year. Fellas thanks for the show i did. I wanna say seventy hours and last pot a sixty hours sixty off the last five days in most of that has either. They're on the show with your in just muted and not talking you know just kind of jumping in and out on our back call with the rest of the community and it might have started by accident. The back hauling. Exactly if your favorite thing is something. That's organic this helped us. Auto connect another way loyalty each other in the community if nothing else so no. Thanks for that because it was a call you started by accident. One day with me started. All of this started happening to be on that. So that's you gotta say credit whereas newest still babies. But i'm going on three day vacation. See out my not here for me as i was. I'm just going to sit at a man. I've been working so much. Man is so long. I just wanted to take a couple of days off from my gal. Just chill out. Know we're gonna go to. Ruby falls out there i was. I was like the pay per view for the water fury. Because that was this weekend. And just watch it on a you know at the hotel and streaming on a bad crop. Watch it at the hotel but say that's happening. I was watching it on a back haul san with the rest of the tbb Patriotair to the system i happen. I guess i watched joe joyce but usually anathema. What's going to be on the uk right intimate yet. They don't even have american tv. That sucks au should look who joined then but always get strain but gotta get back to it. Oh fellas like. I say reshape the contact because this kept me up and cammie able to get through it and as always say please make sure you push the thumbs up. Shed this every episode of the box of waste. Podcast this t. v. for life interviewing on patriae. That's because you dial sat out. The communal shutout stainless jahmai s throw big dog. Good show the other night by the way oh appreciate it. motto motto. Live mondays eight. Pm eastern with kenny. T thank you so much for the plug. Nesta was good chile. man. I mean shit. We wrapped it. Up is on you really. We need you take man you believe. This fight is going to happen. A lot of people thinking a lot of different things. Obviously i went down my conspiracy lane because You know you seen sean porter. He put out a a nice little tweet indicating he was interested indicating the clock was ticking. And all of a sudden disappeared. You know videos disappear tweets disappear things disappear in this boxing world. We live in. So it's like. Does that mean that we're not getting this fight is that saying. Hey don't show energy that you're interested. We aren't interested like Man it's just so draining at this point. This is a good fight that i would pay per view for. Yeah i agree. It's a excellent fight to really good fighters No one gave aerospace junior to kind of test that sean border did. And let's face. Facts like terence crawford but he has not been tested yet at one forty seven right. I mean he wanted to title against jeff horn. He followed it up with defenses against the jose. Benedetti's junior demean machine and kell brook right So he needs a big fight. I think the question is though whether or not if this does happen it would take place on fox or on espn. I think it would more likely take place under. Pbc than under top rank. And i say that. Because i remember import on his podcast said that he was offered less money by bob. Arum to face terence crawford than he was paid by the pbc to take on sebastian. Four miller so I i think bob has attract record of underpaying fighters or not really warning the risk much money on his on his cards. But yeah i mean. Look terence crawford needs a fight at one forty seven and what i the names. I was hearing. We're not really good names. In terms of we'd be taking our next. They said they've been avanesian Espn reported david. As easy was his offer from top ranked for october twenty third date. I mean i guess that's it okay. Fight i mean he's a european champion former. Wbz regular titleholder. I mean we're you. That impressed with josh kelly win. I mean i never really rated josh kelley that highly to be fair so i mean you know he was the first one to do it though. Yeah and stat bubble. Yeah that's true. I i think it's like another mean machine level opponent like we wanna see crawford tested against the elite. He lost to me machine army. Avanesian lost me. Yeah so it's that level of opponent. I mean it's i don't see it as progression regression. You know Should he be disrespected by that. Offer like you just said. I was fighting pat cowan qatar. Each avenue i mean disrespected by top rank. He's already been disrespected by top rank. Top break disrespects the fighters especially their back black fighters. you know. I mean he by barron was going around the media doing tourists talking about how people wanted to vomit. Every time they watch rigo. This is a guy who assigns all you know and talking about how he could buy houses in beverly hills for what. He's you know. Losing on on paying terence crawford He's already been disrespected by bob. So i personally. I wanna see crawford in a good fight at one hundred and forty seven. I i'm hoping the sean is a fight. And i think you're right and that's it would have to take place on paper view because I don't see bob arum foregin over like the the minimums that these guys would be commanded but it is a pay per view fight like oh. We got keith porter for free because al had a free for tv plan like. That's no longer the plan. That's not the answer. This is a pay per view. Fight i don't understand why bob can't take thirty days to say look i'm gonna give you two million fern. I'll give you your minimum of three million now. We need to make five million dollars three and that's pretty much how much he came up with. Kell brook right. I mean i'm sure they got more. I'm sure brooklyn got more. The you know. The disrespect for bud reporters. Just you know it's crazy those guys. I'm sure more but if we keep it to that if we keep it the two and three and now we're at five you know we don't need that. Many paper views of we can do two hundred thousand. You know times. Eighty dollars were sixteen million. Divide that you know. We're at eight million. We pay the fighters five million. We could give them pay per view upside. I got three million ago. Plus that's not tickets. That's not the gate. That's not the tickets we're going to sell. It's not the concessions none of that. You know it's not the sponsorships attached to fight. This is a big fight when you go to everlasting you say hey you wanna sponsor this fi bud versus port au okay. How much is this the fee for the slot. What's the dimensions. Do i get to advertise. Looping where's it gonna be seen. This is a big fight so this is bad. This is low math two hundred thousand. This is saying no one buys despite fight you know now. Let's say that he does what him imported did port in spence. Right to seventy five right. Do multiply that by eighty nine. Got twenty two million. That's good math. Nice hat by the way thank you. That's my favorite fight in the whole wide world. So you know what. I was thinking when you're talking about brooke and con getting money. I mean i was gonna say a lot that had to do with the tv rights in the uk right and You bring okay pay per view. They bring a uk pay per view check. But exactly cut you gotta counterpuncher for mr. pbc in seattle washington Trying thought Got bud being importer as if he agrees. shouts to tyson fury biggest cheap american history. I mean we've never seen a do throw towel over camera Gloves this is totally new. kennewick back. Because i know he he murdered a lot of people on this topic. Oh no he didn't but When it comes to cheat and he didn't murder nobody's helping his brother but tyson fears the biggest shave american. We've never seen this. The dude got covy. Don't e- two days before the site. He tested negative. Could've made the fight but didn't this crazy the water so tries. Why won't you find them. That's how i'm saying. If i could beat up somebody like that. He's gonna do it again win. You know you got coverted either by a baby that little baby or wasn't that big baby anderson so we've seen an Shot up to come to pbc This is You know but it's gonna take the combat from sean porter Could but i don't know be included anyway. Shout out to mr. Pbc you were saying is that oh no. I was just saying that kell brook and amir khan in their fights in the. Us get paid a lot off of the back end in the uk. Because of the tv deals over there Anything about it is that top rank actually signed a major deal with sky sports recently after skysports. Sports obviously got dropped by earning metro. Though you know what i mean. If if it's not for fights like this like why the fuck sign deal like that like well. I don't think the uk deal has anything to do with puerto crawford like how i mean. You can know them. You can sell the rights to them. But i mean. I don't think that they're like clamoring to watch to americans. No i mean. Look i wanna give the uk fans a lot of credit uk fins carolina balks in especially guys that are champions in the league status like terence crawford and all i'm saying is that skysports gave top ranked the bag for big fights. I don't think skysports assign on top rank for like low level records mean at the end of the day. If you're going to watch fights at that time in the uk you're talking about people that are up at like four five in the morning like they want big fights but at no. I hear you definitely love boxing. A lot. I just don't know that you know bob is looking at it like oh shit. Cover verses porter. Uk going out. The what like i don't you know i don't know i don't know but we got intriguing. Atlanta what up speaking of that lanta speaking of that lead. Such shameless plug. Yes yes it's the same as plo. It's okay because this is the biggest fight card that we have ever gotten the opportunity to call. It's going down the showdown in a town august fourteenth. It's going to be streamed right here. Live on the youtube channel. Youtube dot com slash. The box voice. The first time we get to stream live professional boxing with some gigantic names in the sport. I just feel blessed that lorenzo truck simpson and and darren give cunningham and henry martinez. They'll oh me. Oh who's trained by kim. Puerta will be fighting right here on the box invoices youtube channel and we call the action live and introduce you to a bunch of up and coming talent that i've been hearing so much about this. Not g character. I'm telling you you guys are gonna. You'll see it on the live pay per view. Check them out naji lopez. Everybody's talking about him. You can also check out a mere mason another one. That's going to be someone and if you are someone you should come on out to the ats or actually just watching watching right here on our youtube channel tell everyone is right here. Intrigue in atlanta. What's going on my friend. Eileen laminant read by the way. I would say chant. Good mancilla until a sighted man finally. That's why you need seamy santo bud tenders. Now i mean i want to see is a bug in the fight against a marquee name. I ain't got nothing to say. He find porter man. I hope that happened. Man is good for the sport. Mega for the welterweight visit them. Like i was saying. I is probably not a well. I mean i think still is a better fight supporter. I know you listen to a argument but at this point in time i rather see for fight but in terms like uber's so it can set up something else that in my mind that i wanna see but i want i wanna be mad. I mean it's a dog fight. But i like i liked across the versus Porter flight and then The other thing was that dr menefee if he did take the port of fight and west to lose. It's about how he would lose to porter if someone was to say that he will be done after that fight. I think stangeland said that if it was another close flights like the first term importer fide and he lost a split Split decision loss. Close like that. Nobody's going to be like. Oh he's done. Nobody's gonna say that. I mean got knocked out by some different stores so got to put that in perspective. But that's it man. Good sopra great call fair already then and that is everybody so i guess my estimating you know you can take us over overtime if you've got any extended thoughts on the topic if not. We are back at seven pm where we're going to have tim zoo. The son of a legend costas zoo. We're also going to have the very tough ebony bridges from australia. Who fought her last championship. Fight with her. I completely shut and obviously puts on one of the best way ins and boxing. So she'll be on the show as well yemen. If you got anything else if not. I guess it is social media time. Nah i just want to agree with the caller. I was at that fight at the barclays crawford against Keith thurman and it was a good fight of maxi surprise a didn't run it back and you know if that's the fight that kind of happens instead i'm not gonna cry about it. It's a good fight now now. They can't give me that when when they could give me cro. Puerto port across. I don't want a thurman porter if you've got that on the table that can like you can't tell as our you can't tell puerto right now just fight term. That's a big fight right now. Cross the legacy fight. His legacy walker is binding. Mike career defining fight to i agree. It's it's a. It's a great fight but if it does it happen. I'm just saying that you know. I don't think thurman portas a bad fight. You got two guys that. Want another crack at the title. Two guys at forty each other and the close fight and people sleep on thurman or joe bottom and they forget that he was actually a really good welterweight. His only loss was the many pack out. So you know what. I'd rather see terence crawford again sean. Porter i absolutely would to be honest. I wouldn't even mind seeing terence crawford against keith thurman. Gimme either those two guys. I'd be happy with it. I'd also be happy if he took on this. But you know it's the whole thing about each side of the street but uh ness thank you for having me on hold on. I got a few calls. You wanna stick around on. They come for. We got at counterpunch from stainless in nashville news. Exceeding guy you hear me. Yes is more of an intriguing. I thought a puerto one at fight at first being honest and if and with with dharma heaven a two year layoff again. His last light up to your layoff was guest houses you and he looked almost as bruised up and battered as he did in an airport fight and if he loses supporter at the two year. Layoff and i'm not going to be clamoring to see army. Get another shot. You know saying i'm on my suspecting. Take another two year layoff. That's exac another words at the rich. You know mean so is not an. I'll i'll like. I say i'm a boxing fan. I don't know favorite fight in the war gave up on. That's how you get get knocked out by glen johnson. I had to stop doing that. Because i i couldn't watch boxing for a while to get back into domain so a stop being a fan of just a boxer started being fixed counterpunch trade grade stainless come on man thurman beat quarter and even even if you do at at opinion at be firemen the site at armageddon bruised and battered by halsey to lopez man. That is ridiculous breath. He loves one round. you got hit by site. That happens his boxing. I mean. come on man. Everybody act like armand washed up. Ain't washed up or does because his face got bruises he light scanty red and then and then on the last thing to say that you know if he loses a port he take another two years off list with it really introspective diamond. Midtech years. Get edzard if he don't get injury-free fully. I ain't never seen thermo look how he's looking right now. Don't even got to fight slammed down. Ain't losing thirty pounds to get down man. If that man is fully at the end they'll get injured. I don't think he'd taken a layup even if he loses the porter. That's just not right coach. Myers boomerang yemi do and said i ain't got really much on it. I just wanted to get my boomerang in Yesterday i wasn't able to see the or hear the show on border wars anything new up any new fight on anything like that. You chris. chris. From florida is taken dan. The man who lost to adrian from wisconsin. And you know. I mean it got it got real spicy mission impossible as a true attain. He came in and he called a bunch of people ducks. You know what. I mean definitely call marvin and anna duck. They doctor them so now. He's at heavyweight. He called smoker mao. J. duckie went into his car. Actually i ain't gonna make it 'cause chug broke down which is the same exact reason smoking. Jd and make it to the fight. He was supposed to have with mission impossible the first time so the show is definitely official and other than that. We announced yesterday what we've been saying all day over and over that august fourteenth we will be commentating live from atlanta the darren cunningham fight the lorenzo truck simpson fight the henry my genus fight and by the grace god is going to be streaming right here live on our youtube channel absolutely free but it looks like i got another counterpunch from stainless what stain. Yes i'm at work. I got to meet in and out anyway but Is yeah he only lost around. Until against i'll see that lopez but that's what we remember is that he lost that round into a how bad he looked on. In those rounds it was more than eat lost those rows against the guy. That's not that he should. he should should've easily Whitewash and then. How good is keith. Dharma's steel came into question. And if he come in again then it's time he loses the water then again. We start asking that question. How good is key. What he got left in his time and is he gonna take another two year layoff because he get injured down there every time you fight. Now and importer ain't no easy fight. He's a tough top- rumbling. Gal will rumble of which. I'm ed. Remember the borough got a knockout by here. But don't ask so you won't be in there with that guy and he ain't one two year so maybe those again. I'm not going to be carolina punts intrigue the. Let's let's be real with the whole seat. Lopez name was like he was saying come. Offer layoff training at la fitness that even in no real train account and lost one round. Bre one place. Anyway that's what the people who are met remember nobody. Nobody is ceo. He got hit. How many boxes that rob. I mean donald just rock tarlo. Are we gonna say forever. it's undefined. Shiloh no i mean come on. Asian brennan allows a lot of in las china. Lost the harrison lost costano. We ride in charles. No people lost his party game dominate losing to no no Less than top chandu. He lost the manny pacaya in split the season. Let's i mean come on man. We hang like he got mocked all over the floor or something. That is ridiculous man. that's my car. We got super chat from high. Near though says love sean. But bud stops some and then we got only dad's podcast okay. What is that. only dad's parker says. Hey i will take that bell to the caller get at me. Oh excuse me bet. What bet what bet what. bet. I remember porter's but i remember anybody making it like an actual bet and me see here. The next one is from high. Menial again he says i agree. People sleeping on kief his only losses to a legend people need to put some respect. One his name people tripping talking down on him. I agree with that. I mean He got laughed at because of the ukulele or the flu. Or whatever was the malayan mountains and you know. He had the longhaired and he cut the hair. People clowning them for his new hairstyle. Do can fight defy edify. He definitely fight. Did you freeze shit was okay you. There is a moving your the way you stop some time. I gotta use the is throws fight the duke fight and he says so fucking still. I'm like wait. What the on the internet jim. I'm afraid every five seconds. A but i he got everybody and there we go just when you thought we pull us back. We got long. Bjp never leave a man behind. What's going on. Oh shit so. He dropped off all right in seti instagram and twitter catches on the next one fellas record. They find you that you could find me on the maestro boxing. I started my youtube channel not too long ago growing day by day. Thanks guys like ness and mario. Where are you at you at the thousand yet now. I'm working on my work in norway. I'm working on six hundred. come on. Let's get him to a thousand kenny and get paid for his hard work yet. Man i was talking to decide. I don't like doing driver like thousand jobs. Dad bro like everybody should be at a thousand especially the hours so you haven't already subscribed to those channel man definitely do so get them two thousand so he wants to come around here a little bit more so that we can. You know have friendly debates and mix it up you know. It's always good to have different opinions. But he's working hot and obviously a very intelligent boxing fan. So subscribe to that youtube channel. Where could they wanna appreciate that. Bro maestro a box it or youtube dot com slash maestro box in either one. You just look it up type it. And you'll find me right there on super chat femme guy. Your natural own your opinion. Who would win earl spencer. Keith thurman shit. y'all mckee fan man. i got with keefe man. I got keefe. i know i know. He looks like a wounded soldier. Right now so like. I don't even want to have a dog in that fight. I'd rather just watch that fight and be a fan you know. But i'm gonna keep thurman fan you know so i don't wanna pick again something. I'm just be rooting for my man. Keith to pull the upset because it's like everybody's again about him everybody's you see. You see how they talk about him here. Yeah i agree. I mean i'm gonna pick expense just now. I mean opinion might change depending on how he does against pacman but it's hard to begins aerospace junior. He's one of the best doing it. and he's done it again. Really good fighters so you know. I gotta go with that one now. But that's not to say that keith. Thurman does not have a chance because he is very good fighter people sleeping on him because of one loss to pack out. Which is the crazy. Nobody is time off. It's the injuries a few things. All together bro. I wish it was just the loss to pack. So that i could i mean he ear. He met a woman there in asia. He fell in love. He took some time off a lot a lot. But but it sounds like the child's changed them so we just need to get see he don't even want a tune-up so it does sound like the child is put them into perspective. We've got another super chat coming in from hymie nia to who says i got kief beaten. i'm right. I'm brian all. I'm willing to accept that. I just would always like to hear a fight breakdown from people who make predictions like that. Like how do you see it playing out like what gets him. The the win you know 'cause Arrow arrow's got got a very good defense you know he's got a good jab. He's a southpaw. Tricky style to decipher. Yeah let's get about him then ness gto instagram and twitter. Catch us on the next one.

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And yeah it's It was a nice enough place went to college that for a while. Every famous shoes. Yet at the a shoe museum in Northampton, which actually has like the famous shoes like rock and so they have like David Bowie shoes they have Elton, John Shoes, they have like it's. A rock and town I love shoes. Hold. Other. That's a whole another podcast. Actually. got. Kinky boots set that you know the musical yeah. No Phantom Northampton. At the Shoes make it famous on the calls brewery, which is like the thing in town. That's pretty much been rookie. Did, you have to Carlsberg when you were growing up oh? Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. It was it was caused back. It was three pounds ten upon and you'd have three and that will be unite because it's like six and a half percent and whatever. The regular regular thing to drink. Well, the rumor is that you studied photography yes. Yeah. Yeah. So I started. Thought. So I didn't go straight into UNI. I had a couple of years out actually started quick as mechanic. At Go Kart Circuit, which was also, it was really really good fun. Actually super long hours. You get there like six in the morning you'd leave at midnight. But really good fun and end up the day like completely caked in oil and like exhaust fumes and stuff, and you have to scrub your skin role to get oil Hans but. Did. You drive them is that the right word to? Get you drove them as well as Yet, unknown you compete nor I'm a little bit too heavy to compete. Unfortunately, you got to be somewhat of a junkie I'm about the right size by liberty heavies. It's and then you also have to stop driving at like six or something in order to kind of build up the muscle memory and stuff. So I started a little bit late in the game. But this is something just a just on money while studying. And I started actually studying sculpture so I wanted to be a sculptor when. Finish school and everything and. And yet, that's what I wanted to get into and my my Tuta who was was teaching at the time I was making lots of stuff to do with photography. So making cameras from like. Pieces, that I found around to make cameras from TV sets and like mannequins and anything, I could get my hands on paint cans and stuff smith cameras from and they push me into photography. Because I figured why I spoke with my mom about this and she said there's no money in sculpture like. You get paid doing sculpture so. Yeah, I went into photography being a bit bit more of a like a legit moneymaker kind of game. And then I moved down to. Guilford. To study that which was really good fun. And I. So I studied at Fawn Fawn, was the one of the only places that I found how to see forty one machine which. These days a lot of photography is digital and a C forty one machine is a machine that develops film and a lot of universities. It kind of got rid of of the like since like two thousand since like digital cameras came in and this was one I think is one of six in the country that have is university that has one of these. So. Yeah, it was in their time in the dark rooms and stuff and. Still tinkering away and stuff. because. You are a tinkerer and now you're tinker of cocktails go into that up. Did you feel that moving from sculpture and also go kart? Mechanism. Mehanna. Mechanic's. That you missed using your hands to create something as you went to do. Yet for sure and I think. I mean Photography's is we'd it's like big envelope of. Media of essentially that you can kind of get into and I think. You know what? I didn't like about photography's that you can. You can shoot something very very quickly prints out and put on a wooden say, Hey, this is my aunt. Whereas I wanted to be a bit more hands on actually a load of the outlook that I did university was. To do with the kind of impermanent. Photography. So I I shot a lot with A. Printed onto thermal imaging paper, which is the same kind of paper that you get in a receipt role. So, there's no ink it's hate the actually makes the image and overtime these things grade especially if you leave out in sunlight or if you put near heat source and stuff. So I made a few kind of installations that would destroy themselves through time. So you leave him like A. The be open applicable near a window overtime that kind of gray out in the be completely destroyed. So moral there one minute and then kind of like a cocktail they're one minute ride man. On the next to someone, you know downs on wants throat. I love it. So how did this? I'm going to gas, but I'll probably be wrong on the side where you bartending. Money, kind of yeah. Well, I mean I to make money being photography. You have to sell your soul to the wedding industry if you're not like incredibly talented an. Incredibly talented by any standards So I really I tried to this wedding game thing. And it's a lot of hard work really hated it and. You really do have to sell your soul to it, and so every kind of struggling artist leans on booze at one point or another. And I found myself in. Bosmo. took him with tenders more and I did get one or two kind of like part time jobs and stuff just just like glasses and picking up classes and stuff, and then it wasn't until. A Finnish degree that I really like properly go into cocktail bartending. which Guilford there's a little bar just over by the by the theater which was about parts. And it's It's it's like A. Ball probably ten seats but it was like this one case cocktails Guilford at like all the other balls redoing like two for one drinks and all this stuff and like pitches and stuff like that, and this is the place that was actually doing like property greenies, proprio factions, all this stuff and. Being next to the theater and being a kind of a Gilford is a music town all the colleges they are either musical theatre. Or musical theater. So all the guys who are working there. Really, talk like really engaging and there will either actors musicians. So I really kind of got along with everybody and I really fell in love with it because of the way that selling it and yet it just kind of took off from there really was it was kind of thing or it could still flex that kind of assistance muscle. You'll making something you using your hands you're talking with people you know it it was something that I really kind of pretty much instantly fell in love with was like, why am I making off for myself that? No one's going to see when I can be in front of people every day and night and make people happy now. It's really surprising because being an artist sculptor. Any kind of really a writer it's quite a solitary job. Is Solitary Passion. Even if you are, you know taking photos of winning means, you're still alone creating that are. So sometimes, I would think people aren't so good at being outside that space or loving to be with other people. So yes, it's interesting that you you know you found that and. I think I. Think it was it was Mu I. It's it's not instant gratification which you don't get with with ought with photography because you know you spend six months passed away in your space and your studio will you'll like making stuff and then you go through the whole rigmarole of like inviting people getting people involved and all this stuff, and then you finally have this one big day where everybody comes in takes stuff. Minutes well done and then you could hate it. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah stay. Pretty much if you make them. Oh, Hito okay. Someone's going to like it or tonic knotts. Kind of part is not so hard. I'm and well, he takes art but but then even if you do it wrong and if you do make a mistake, you can than in that, you know it's it's not something that's like. You don't have the white full reviews or wait for someone to say something or anything. You know it's You know you can. You can say, how's your drink in this? Actually I really don't like it. I was like fine. Let me make you something else like is no is no big deal about it, which is, which is really nice. I. Think it's kind of like if Michaelangelo had slipped while you know making the David, he would have to start with a whole. New Stone. Sculptor. So Guilford, you were making drinks and did was there an immediate call to London? Did you see that was where you need to go next or did you travel somewhere else? Well, being being a photographer? In order to be seen waste. London was the place that I need to be it was either. London. Bristol. And at we settled on London because housemates good to London. Well, we're like, well, let's go to together. That's old sheriff Lott. Let's let's just do it. No one had any ideas what to do. So just the kind of thing where I was I was leaning on kind of tending at the time and. We moved to Croydon the the bright light dizzying heights to Croydon and which mean it was fine. South Croydon that there's like a little strip. That's like they it the restaurant mile. An it's it's every single shop is a restaurant in the world different cuisines and stuff and it was it was actually really really cool it. And I got a phone call from. Mike go friends cousin who was just opening a hotel. So. A financial controller as just opening this hotel. Hey Hedge looking for work. What didn't you come and try out and this is the monitoring which was which is cooled yes. Sorry the. Asked was called the monitoring back then. And I went to this this this day had like. I don't know it must have been one hundred fifty people trying out for like the positions for more. Before you do say that had any idea what you're about to get into or you just knew, oh, this is a new hotel opening up. Did you know anything about any of the people involved? Yes I did I did my research. So I, had about this place I did my research about like what is WHO's behind it will stop. had. You heard of these people before I'd heard of Marcus a Nathan. And I hadn't really heard about Ryan or IAN on. Something had about Marcus and Nathan and. Kind of had the kind of bumps and look at what we're doing. and. Had Look at what Dundee line was supposed to be like in the pre rendered and stuff on the website. When you went into this room of one, hundred fifty did you feel like oh? My God? I've got like there's so much pressure or how I don't really know that much about it. So there's no not so much pressure. It was it was Kinda strange because I I. I didn't have a job in London at that time. So I was just kind of sitting on my savings for a little bit trying to find something. I put my cv into local balls and stuff and I was like, why not? So the actually wasn't that much pressure. I just thought like well, I might get job out of this. So let's go. Back to the one hundred and fifty people in one room. If. It's the kind of thing where everyone's in the same space at the same time and you kind of off twenty and then like ten people golf in this, this speak to this person people speak to that person and I got kind of will down to like six people. And I sat on the table Marcus. And kind of with him for a little bit and kind of talking about wives doing all this stuff and I said, hey, look I I really WanNa wait for line I'm. I can be asset to this place and the first thing he said was will positions of filled. So there's no, there's no business we can get you one. And I said look I don't mind just gloss collecting or just like posting glasses or whatever I just want to be punished teen and he said. You're not going to enjoy it doing that. So I'm GonNa, put you in the restaurant. So he started me off on the on the bar on the restaurant just next door over the whole. and. That was really great. Kind of had. One of the best people I've ever met was at that restaurant, which is geico Alex Casey who He's he had recently left He. He was a mouse and the Wind Guy Mount over there and he's kind of six full big gray head Australian kind of string bean. Dude. He was incredibly amazing with wine and he kinda tell me onto wine. So I haven't really kind of like looked wine before. Until I go to that place and I just kind of dove in I did on my WBZ. TV's did like I wanted to be the one guy especially that restaurant it wasn't like a Michelin Star Place. So it wasn't like suit and tie. You went like seven people with hands behind your back. It was very much more relaxed. And yeah, I fell in love with that. And then after about. Six months. So as with all openings, you get the shift in staff and people stop moving on and doing other things and opening the next place and the next place. And every time so was just over the whole. So everytime Clo- every time we closed the ball at the restaurant. I'd go and speak with the guys over in Dandelions. Hey, how you trying to get people kind of Aden Bowie and A couple of other guys that who I really kind of hit it off with. James Wheeler and stuff like that who is One of the best people in the industry. and. Every time bought to left. I put my CV in to down the line was. I'm just the whole dumber need to do much like just like change a change where I work. I'm here. And it it took about four or five bartenders to leave before I actually had my foot in the door. And and that was it. You know it was persistence in anything I mean coming into. Monitoring I was really inexperienced taking a look at the other guys in line and stuff. Who've been working in the industry like really high end cocktail boss for four or five years and stuff. I'd had maybe eight months in a in a in a little kind of jazz bar. GUILFORD's that no one's head of and kind of Hey can I be this? Well, renowned team on the? was like well, maybe in a few years or maybe in a bit. So took about nine months ten months for me to actually get in the door there, and then since then I was there full. Gosh best part three is that why you're at the restaurant where you also making cocktails as well as doing wine or was it just wine wine wine? Yeah. So so it was really nice because we I was partly opening team and had kind of two or three weeks before we opened to get everybody trained up on everything and get the company thoughts and all that stuff and. It's an American company. So it's very kind of full on and very high energy, and you have to put all of your energy into stuff all the time, which is, which is Kinda Nice. I've never been in that situation before. So So yeah, there was a lot of tales. All of the time anyway designed by Marcus. Nathan at Ryan and Ian. So it was really cool because we spend quite a lot of really good quality time especially with Ian. Kind of training off on everything and kind of why does this taste good wise. That good. Really kind of the fundamentals and the basics. We had kind of two months pretty intensive. Real kind of connection with especially Ian who really Kinda took under his wing. and. Kind of laid the foundation for everything cocktails the I now know which is which is pretty awesome. It's made it's like trial like it's the best. Apprenticeship you can have really if you WANNA, get into what you're doing and the world of high in cocktails. Now, we could spend hours talking about your time at Dan. But what do you feel was? For. The three years that you were there three years, right three years you're. Just under three years. I guess how did you see yourself progress and what did you really take away from it? From those that time what what? So. So. So so I think the best part of what's I I was really kinda thrown in the deep end with Dandelions. I knew an amazing place. When I joined we're about we're about month away two months away from the first tales nomination. and. So Tales, the cocktail that year it was best new international best new ball at that time. And I didn't really know too much about tells the coattails and then a really kind of like research teams on. Okay. This is like the Oscars, this is crayon likely and it was the kind of thing where I read about this. o-, on unpublished team now I've got to be this good. There's no, there's no icon. Let the team down. You know. So it was it was It was ready to die at that moment. And very early on Alex Lawrence came aboard. And we kind of hit off on his he. He was really good to me and I was kind of seen as the youngster even those a little bit older than everybody. Which is kind of interesting, right? In My bartending career. I was very young. So so yeah, and then being kind of. been kind of Almost cheated by Aidan and an Alex and stuff and really being spoiled that way actually these guys. You know some of the best in the industry worldwide alone in London. And, and I think some of the best that was the gray tippety. Speaking with kind of Ryan and Ian there will they were very very. Particular about what creativity was an how And how it's very easy to be seen as kind of one key or bartender your you know kind of doing something because it's kind of stunning all because. It's It's instagram -able something whereas that creativity was all about kind of why why are we doing this? Why is this? Why is that and why is every gradient ingredient in this drink? Why are you making it this way? Why is the gun? Aside this is the gloss. And Off The after about a year, we all had a hand in making the next couple of Menus, which is really great. It was the kind of thing where. With also down. Six eight months before the menu is GonNa launch an tell us what the theme is the next menu, and then it's just a free for all your encouragement. You're encouraged kind of get lost in wikipedia black holes and like go speak with. Like professionals and stuff in libraries and stuff like this and ready to go wild with it, and that was I mean that just appealed to my nature because like that's what I do for. And that's what I do for off. So like this is amazing like how how, how, how? How can I make this really work for me? That was really cool. and. You know you spending six months making one drink You really you're really get to know everything about why you're doing something just great I guess. How did you find because a lot of people that I interview come from a background or they always love food or they read about food a was that kind of an easy thing to pick up because we'll talk about your youtube channel and the second about using one ingredient you know to make many many different things but did you feel that that came naturally to about what to mix with what that was? Really The education that you receive their. For both. I mean, I come from a family where we we? We have a really good relationship with food but when. It's never anything to to special fancy and my brother works and beef. And he's he's like the chef of the family. So he he'd cook. Christmas dinner and a lot stuff like six courses and stuff like that. so He'd go really hog wild with it and it was his his passion that release spots. But actually like why is this tasty and stuff like that? So I never really thought about food too much. I didn't come from a food background but. It was the it was more the creative aspect of like taking four ingredients and making them taste like whatever you want them to take getting the most out of what you've got. And being around the guards on line definitely changed my perspective of what things should taste like or candidates like. and. Yeah it was very much I learned on the job there about what kind of. How how things interact with each other how ingredients entering through the and how tastes have moved on from from kind of what we had before now did that lead you to start compete name because I see that you want and I always get the Toronto the Aukin Tasha new. Can Tasha. New World Daughter. This one is yes, and you were one of the winners Nelson. Competitive Place I'm sure Dandy Lion as much as you know were everyone is very helpful and and supportive but. Was that Oh okay. You've got to compete now like Amman go can be Jack. Yeah well, I think. The one thing I love most about. Photography was the was the critiques. So you would you put your forward and you'd sit in a room of Oyo Piz and that tell you exactly how they feel about it or like. Done, better, how to improve or whatever, and I was completing missing that. and think. I mean I'm not Performa I've never. I didn't study drama or anything like that. I never thought that that was my thing. But showing off really feels good. Everybody's the same like yet. So yet I was really pushed into it through Aidan who was was gearing up world-class at the time and and the rest and really looking at kind of the work and the amount of effort that goes goes into one of these competitions. I was really amazed with you know. Like wow, I really want to myself if I can do it. You know it wasn't so much of A. I'm better than everyone I've really want to show the world was it was more of like. I wonder if I can I wonder if I'm good enough you know it was it was multiple to myself with a I could do it. So yet that competition was amazing. It was we had to make a drink. Wait was that your first one or? Very Very. It was your first one. Yeah all right. So you had to make bitter, right? Yes. Yeah. Yes. You had to make your ambitious using a contortionist new make. So they sent you a bottle of nugenix. Barrett you may join bits from it and yet to make a couple of drinks. And this is where I ready excelled because it's it's all research. And it's you have to you have to know what your judge is looking for what your? The person on the other side of the bar is GonNa mock you on. And you know you never really told those things but there's there's a couple of common sense things that are the. I easy enough to kind of get your head around and Ian and Ryan books, seasoned veterans, competitions, those guys like what should I be doing? What should I not be doing all this stuff? So they were really good help. But really it was like it was like research mode. It was just like click find something that you can really grab hold on and you can sell and you can make a story about and that's what I really excelled. So it was Say it was easy to took a hell of a lot of effort but it was it was something that really kind of clicked. Taibbi, lists that you want. It's funny. You're the third person I've interviewed who'd said when you're doing a competition really know what you're judges live. I should that should be one the show I should do one show on. Competition. So yes, you won this wonderful competition your Dandy Lion One of the most famous bars in the world what could then tempt you away. So, this was. As I said Alex Lawrence Pretty early on in kind of. Of Minor? GROWNEY? and so it's Alex hails from. Edinburgh. And he was working for Bob, before he came down to down the line, could all kit up in Aberdeen and? It was it was kind of like the. That goal to make a house spirit to make something for the ball. And they themselves a wrote about. So like a rotary evaporator I'm sure you've seen these before. The allows you to distill already cool temperature and allows you to still things really quickly. So they had this tool I'd never come across before we didn't have on down the line. those a few balls like pegging Patriot in London using them. And I was really intrigued about it. So I started asking questions and kind of get into know Alex a bit more of will what's all this about and he was actually, I'm gonNA clearing on something waking to make a gin. This is really cool like amazing. When can I try it? When can I taste it and? We really kind of said. Set a real kind of fun grounding in all languages would about was tasting gin and tasting spirits in tasting wine and stuff He really liked the way that I talk about wine I. Think I think the word that he fell in love with his interest. So good word as a great. and. So I was quite descriptive when talking about drinks, tastes like what wine does and effective emotions and stuff like that. And he was like, well come, try this GIN and. We'll talk about it from that and. At that point, it was just a foundling company at reporters. That, was you know we're GonNa make the spirit full the ball. It's going to be a reason why people come to the ball because we make in. House. An Alex got really excited about it and it was the kind of things. I actually now we're doing this, we probably should share it with everybody else and at that point that been doing it for about two three years maybe. But a year and a half, start a year and a half, and they finally had some liquids or could try it and I'll say, oh, wow, this is cool. I started doing a couple of pop events those guys. They. One thing that was really bad is. One thing why was horrible photographer is I I really didn't value my time. So I didn't charge people for why did. So for year, I worked to these guys kind of off the. Down Line on my days off at work for potent. And I never send him an invoice never never like we we WANNA pay us like a wealth just doing a favor or whatever. And? I I stuck around at deadline for for another year doing this stuff on doing time and. It was buddy elated whether lake we can afford someone now this is like, let's let's get someone on full-time You're the only person that we could see for this job sounds like, wow, this is amazing like coal and. The company. was only. Full people of that time. So I was like the fifth person on the only. Englishman everybody else's Scottish. So I'm very much of everybody's jokes which I mean, somebody's gotta be. It's Yeah. It was really cool. It was very organic kind of fell into it. I spoke with the guys at deadline. Really love what I was doing there. I remember sitting down with Ian and being like Hey. I'm thinking about doing this and he was like, dude, this is amazing. This is an amazing opportunity for you. I was expecting to be like no like you can't leave ever leave you sticking. But he was super supportive and we. Chat, with him a few times about like what to expect because I never known that side of the ball. A never. Never been a rep for anything a never knowing that kind of ambassadorship. You know you get to speak with a load of ambassadors on the Baugh but like nothing. Really. Day today. So well, it sounded like you were doing it anyway. That you were doing it, but on the weekends and all that you know I remember it's I. Think it's two and a half years ago tails on toward an Edinburgh because quarters had an event. Yes, and that's when I I was introduced to it and I went to that event and I was like this is really good and I have a little conversation I think with Alex, all with my little tape recorder I think somewhere on, you know one of my podcasts somewhere in a way back when. Yeah and that was the first time in that was when they only had one expression or wrong they may have had the old Tom as well. But yeah, it's it's been a while they've done really you've done really well. So what was it like the transition of being? You are now the it's the brand master. It was it's It's actually very I thought it was going to be a big shift but actually. Doing all those things anyway. So it wasn't that much of a a jarring. Difference. I think the main. The main difference is the way us you creativity is completely different. and. The way that you wake up is the White Working Ball, you get the full PM and you're there until three in the morning. And and. Answering emails at. Nine o'clock you know being at your desk at nine o'clock is is not energy that I was used to. So that that was the biggest difference I think that was the biggest kind of change but. The creativity and innovation and the way we talk about drinks what the way I talk about drinks anyway has. Has Changed. Dramatically. Because, it sounds this is gonNA sound a bit wit but like I was Kinda focused on what was doing here and I had my little box of ice and. My cocktails and stuff that I was making an now all of a sudden will kind of opened up to what well does and we're quite fortunate. Now what we've been working very hard at it, but we're, but we're in fourteen countries now, and this is something which was when I started. We were here in in the UK? And we're in the Netherlands because we had some. Really, good friends over there and all that stuff. So it was it's something that is. Really, really different. You know looking at things globally instead of just like Hewlett will pop the world. That's the biggest change I think. It's still pretty overwhelming because you look kind of bartending the community as a whole globally. Even, though it's amazing to go to new places, new towns in new cities, new countries, and you say ten to all I used to be about here or to US and allied armies ain't like come see. My friends restaurant and let's go. For a drink stuff, you have this like global. kind of family. You suddenly realize that your town that you're in. You know is a very small SPEC compared to the rest of the world. And that makes you feel pretty pretty humble the the so much more out that. And you know you can always do more, which is, which is a big big kind of concept for me. But yeah, it. No no I was going to say, well, let's talk about the spirit itself on how you seen a grown. When you started was there just one expression, the Jin the yet. So it was it was the modern classic. And what really kind me on with it was that the using cold distillation as well as Traditional relation. So modern classic so Having. This modern technique in this classic technique put together. And what really tummy on was that people that? Well, the guys behind it's a Ben. And Alex. At really thought about why and where they want it drunk. It wasn't just like, Hey, we've got shed and loads of spare time. We're GONNA MAKE GIN and just put out it was very much like what do we want drunken? Drunk, who do we want it drunk by? And I've never seen a company. Spirits company do that before I've never known a sports company do not before especially at a brand new one Yeah, and and the fact that the. Stills and stuff underneath the ball. was was pretty cool. I never seen that before either an to. went up to Aberdeen how to look at the place. We call it a micro distillery because it is it's a stockroom that's been converted into a little still still. having a look all the. like all the attempts at making something. Delicious. So they have like a is like a library case, but it's full of distance and this is like a it represents like a year and a half with experimentation and some of them all like. From the common like outside the ball I some some of them are like like old fruit left lying around some things like lost and found. So like stuff that people have left in the bar or whatever. And you kind of have look at these in like, wow this is like I never really thought about this systematically and it was until. Josh hold of Buddha's hand which I really kind of was like. That funny looking fruit which they can find on your instagram. Which I had never seen it before your instagram. It's Super Weird I. Was a vase I thought like vase sitting there, and then you said this is a fruit. Yes. Yeah. It's more. It's a citrus fruit from China. And it's it's it's one of the oldest citrus fruits in the world. It's like the great granddaddy of Lemons and limes. and. Yeah. It looks like a tentacle like a big Octopus Octopus art project. It's sculpture that you've made in. Your right. On. What we think of citrus fruit we think of like shop and taught and Sour whereas this has none of that. There's no flesh there's no juice it's just like Pale. And trying to pill one of those things I is Not Easy. And so like why what? Okay I'm not really kind of. It takes a couple of boxes in my head is like these guys have really thought about what they doing. then. Afraid to be. Out there and kind of a little bit strange but also. It's still very classic in its approach. It's the overall gin and the liquid itself is still very. I feel like I've had something like it before which is. At the time kind of CROFF. Jn was was very kind of polarizing very one dimensional. You know you'd have you'd have Jen's that will vary. The Herbie or Very. Very citrusy but you wouldn't necessarily have stuff that's very well balanced because the big guys have gone. So why? Why try and make something like that? So, yeah. I was really turned onto the way the way they thought that. We WanNa make something that's classic approachable but still being kind of pushing the boundaries in still kind of modern. And and without being kind of one dimensional which was. Within Cliche, which was, which is one thing I was always trying to avoid. University like making art and photography and always trying to avoid cliches. and. So what was their next was the old Tom and now Richard. Took that approach with with the old Tom being trapped tropical? Yes. Yes. Yes y'all. They'll thome start off as a bit of an argument actually which was which was interesting I mean the the way that we kind of do new product development Is that we will sit down on a table at the bar in Aberdeen with Lewinsky and we discuss whiskey gets drunk and no one leaves until we find out what we're doing next. And, it was probably like an hour or two in. And we'll get into bit frustrated going around in circles and stuff alex tons up and just goes. Let's just make a gin and just like stones out cigarette and then everybody else in the room is just like. Maybe, we could do it taking Jin. So. Going through that kind of process like. That's my job and. and seeing that. We not one for doing something that other people have done. WHAT'S THE POINT That's one thing that we will let from dandelions like if you see a picture of it or if you hero of it, it's already too late to my of course, somebody else has already done it. So. Yeah. Go going through the process of like, what can we do? On looking at kind of drinks trends at the time and still now. The the Paul Martinez is. The most popular drink in the world right now or is it just the UK I? Think it might be worldwide I it's between that and always the Pinochle Lot I think that. Yeah. So. We were thinking about like pressure treats. That's like something that not everybody is aware of and you don't really see a lot of generally serving the states in January before everything's kind of looked down and. no-one over that knows what a passion fruit is all what it tastes like it. I haven't been I. Haven't lived in the states for seventeen years. So I don't know I mean I remember actually when my first drinks here was A. Porn Star Martini with Chile. So it's a little twist on it and that used to be my drink all the time, and maybe it's because I didn't have that much passion fruit in New York I don't remember. So. So that's why it's so much. Yeah. Yeah. The whole of that was. You know we wanted to make something that that we know people are going to enjoy but also. Without being twee and and kind of Cliche of all the genes becoming out the time, which was like rib ginger and all this stuff make pink and all this stuff like that. So we wanted to be as playful as pink GIN, but without being too on the nose is that. So yeah. We went to winter ridicule company could treat. WHO THAT FLAVOR SCIENTISTS? Basically, which is the coolest I think anyone can have. And We tried to stealing passion fruits in house underneath the ball and when he just oh passion end up tasting gross because there's so many more different flavors in their skin hoskin on the seeds and all that stuff It doesn't end up taking passion and the taste that we wanted to get at the end was this kind of Poland Star, Ish Passion Fruit bomb that we wanted to kind of incorporate and. And If, we wanted to make that in the in the bills that we had. We end up kind of spending loads of money making it. The each bottle made would cost like hundred quid. And no one's GonNa pay one hundred twenty pounds or Baligian. So we have to kind of laterally and thinking a more modern way. So, we went to this company treat. And they make kind of ridiculous things from freezing vegetables and things. One thing they do is they isolate chemicals from. Discarded Fruit and Veg from the from the. Food Industry and turn into industrial compounds. So one thing I always like talking about little low is a is a flavor compound in lemon skin and it's also found in Korean the and it's basically lemon. But it's secondary property is that it's a really good degreaser. So you actually find it in about eighty percent of ood cleaning products in the world. Have this thing. So when someone says oxygen tastes like soap it tastes like washing up liquid. Actually. Yet it does. It does taste like that because they have this same compound. And actually if anyone does say that you could have really good pallet like I would never never thought about like well, first off drinking dish soap but. It's not a good sales till the. Tastes like dish. So Right So. So yes, if you went to these guys said. Hey we really WANNA make this. Passion freaking. Do something forest now? Yeah. Sure. Why not Josh at the time so Josh just like seeks out all on new opportunities and stuff. And he wants to go meet them and he went up into the labs and kind of talking with the guys knows this little bowl that was just cooled cucumber just had to come on the label. It was probably about this big and it was like Oh that's interesting opened up and it's like a cucumber absolute and. They're like, what have you done? I had to turn on the extract fan and like evacuate the building and stuff. Because like this is what they with like industrial scales and stuff. So we are actually one of the first people to actually make something like this with them. which was really nice. You know we we kind of. We deal with the obstacles that were given. In this real kind of modern way and rather than putting our hands up and be like, Oh, well, we can't do it because we can't do it in house. We'd much rather. Help somebody else or what could somebody else to make something that is truly unique. Trudy. I've one of a kind of what about and that's how that's kind of ultimate got won't the truckload got one. And much more recently, this little puppy here the the orchard. which was born out of our entire. Company. Loves. Champagne as. I'm sure pretty much everyone in the world does but what we really love is Bruno plunked to blank and that's Alex's kind of Lake Achilles. Heel. Hadn't. So we wanted we wanted to emulate kind of the flavors in. Really. Good. Bunk deblanc champagne. Into Yuejin. And make something that was really kind of special in that respect without being goody or kitsch all kind of one dimensional. On. So yes, we using apple and pear alongside like a black soy as well. So black soy being kind of. Brady and and very much like automatic flavors that you get from champaign. That's. And then the apples. Pez. Being that kind of bright fruit cut of noise that usually get with with. Really tasty. Plunked punk champagne so yet again, we can with tree again for that but we making off a black soy underneath the ball. So that's that's where we do this. We marry up these kind of the best of everything that we can find. We put it all together rather than making something kind of sub subpar in house that we're not really happy with but because we made it in house, you know this is often much rather make something that's kind of knock out amazing of course. Yeah. Yeah. That's why you were all drawn to Dandy line a knockout amazing place but. One thing that I can't leave you without discussing is your your new youtube channel. Yes. Yeah and where now it's it's one thing drinks one thing and you make three cocktails. One super simple one mega tasty, and one ultra fancy. Get out all of those things like the SUV even the other why did you feel that you wanted to start these? So, this is actually been blown out of lockdown so. As I'm sure you're you're aware as many many listener whereas well. During lockdown, every brand ambassador bartender took to instagram live and facebook live like this. Make a man. This is how you make an old fashioned and that's that's great i. mean it's wonderful. You have to have that the creativity release. An I started a show on instagram which confined on Portas Instagram. Cooled. One thing Wednesday. So. Every Wednesday at three o'clock take one thing and I make three drinks from it and it's about like fifteen minutes. Long thing and it's completely lives at one scripted. Will this stuff and? It was really and I loved it and it was an opportunity for me to kind of try new things and during lockdown it's it's really really easy to get stuck in a Rut and be like well, I can't leave this house. Senior staff account go to my favorite Toke ideas with people and so being forced to make three brand new drinks every single week. It was a real kind of creative process that was really beneficial. Actually really kind of I was thinking about the next one and the next one and the next one and the next one So I did this full twenty six weeks so. It was the kind of thing that was just like, Hey, let's do this and it went really well. And I pitched this idea to the guys. Be Like Hey I really want to elevate this a really wanna make something that has been more. Bit will possess something that's a bit more. Accessible I guess. and. Youtube was the was the platform to do that on and I wanted to step up production value and step up kind of what we were actually doing. And make it a bit more kind of timeless I guess rather than kind of me and my garden China about Jin you know. and. So I really wanted to include other brands as well. We you know however much brandon ambassador are, and that's what I do. I can't ignore the fact that there's there's amazing. People doing amazing things all over and hence why boundary of. I saw glasshouse speak. So a kilos. Over here. Nice. That's one. It's not it's not in position as foreigners. Yes I wonderful I love the debris, the Dorito Salsa Cam and you know using using really what you have in the house and yes, it's for the ones that are easy. Not Not everyone has a sous vide machine or Whatever you know. Whatever I don't even know what they're called. The the the way of break the drinks down is really good though I. I'm I'm I'm a huge advocate of. Bartenders on doing magic and magicians but however much they seemed like that involves with flashy you flashy bars and stuff like that. And cool tricks and things which not everybody can kind of read the heads around what you're actually doing isn't rocket science It's cooking essentially. I don't know there was one that had about and I don't have I think it's one of the wants had about you know fifteen ingredients. Got To be kidding. I mean I. I want you to make that for me. Myself Yeah. I i. think there's a real especially during lockdown that was real kind of push full making things you've never made before at home. So a lot of people got into baking a lot of people got into like making bread and stuff like this myself. We've probably made with pizza experts. Now we make the basis and everything. We wouldn't have done that unless Kinda looked down, happened to us, and so I think there's a real. There's a real moment that we have in kind of as a society where you know the the skirt of kind of cooking drinking is really being lifted up and we're seeing. Actually do this or if I had enough time I could do this. and not some that's something which is really exciting because. All these people. Suddenly, have the capacity and the capability to make amazing things arm and not something that I really wanted to catch it. So you know the super simple stuff that I have each week is super simple, Mega ultra fancy super simple being that you don't need any special tools. You just need a couple balls and maybe eliminate lime if that's the hand The mega mega tasty stuff is that you've make syrup or you'd make a quick infusion or something that doesn't take you that long. But actually is really impressive and then the the ultra fancy stuff. That's when you really crack out the big guns and machine no centrifuges. Not yet not yet. And you know it was finding you talked about your brother. Being in beef man it was funny I saw one of the comments on one of the videos I think it was for the Plov. And it said because you always ask for recommendations and I saw it said Ernie dot? com. And just head on. And you can send off an agronomy to Any of your sorely missed Powell's that I'm sure you know everybody's missing people right now and not being able to see people, which is really difficult. This is actually just launching in Canada as well. So this you'd be able to do that in from Canada as well It's basically ten pounds that includes your packaging and postage you get to send a really nice kind of Note, that goes with everything as well. So he say whatever you WanNa say it's an in or something that only a little card they also sent me a taste of the orcher which I'm going to try. And Yes, you can send them to grow needs to someone, which is it comes through the mail It's not like you have to go pick it up comes in a package or anything, and it's really nice to surprise people with. It's been going really really well, we we've. We've we started off as a bit of like I wanted if people would would take this an actually it's it's going great guns and so you can choose from. Classic Negoti a tropical Gurney, or you can get back with five. He's So if if you're sharing a house or if you fancy treating someone, you can buy them five hundred Arnie's which is really really cool and it's it's it's something that we wanted to do to. Have that little bit of connection that wouldn't possibly. Get otherwise especially with kind of Bosnian clothes and stuff So so yeah, it's it's. It's something that we wanted to. Make people aware that you. You can still have a drink with your friends Rafa than you know but the the alternative and it's nice to be having the same drink with. Ron. Exactly exact. Same exact drink at the same time during your zoom call that you have exactly now and both experience it. Yeah. So. I. Am Definitely GonNa, send cronies I think it's a great Christmas gift as well. So exact everyone may beginning grow for me. It has been such a pleasure to have you on the show. It has been so nice to your your your. How you got where you did and and I hope to see you in the bar very soon. So we can have a in real life porter's. I love that that sounds awesome. I thought that too. So thanks so much. Thank you just. You know I couldn't leave Jack Without asking for his top tips for the home bartender and where he would have a drink right now if he could choose anywhere in the world I think firstly gloss whereas a big thing on it I enjoy most. About kind of drinking. Is that you're using urine glassware and I'm a bit of a fiend secondhand shops in vintage shops and stuff and going hunting for that like perfect little bit of gloss with dislike puffing drink you have. Really makes it go a long way? I mean I have an these little talk glasses from the from. Victorian Times which like twenty nil. Jingles is essentially, but they are for gin and the only thing that full and I love getting out when people. Say That Hey, this is just for this and this is amazing. And I have like Lindsey vintage gloss run stuff from from his and stuff like which is which is super cool and I think that makes more of an experience than. Just, plain old kind of like I keep losses as well. No. The I K gloves about because I. have hundreds of those. grabbed. Okay if you could be drinking anywhere in any bar in the world anywhere right now whatever that the So I am missing a missing one bar in particular. I mean I I hate Dropping names or anything like that. But as bar up in Northampton that's cooled the Oh coaching in and it's like low ceilings. Old School has been there for like twelve hundred years or something. And missing. An open fire. Dogs and like runny nose gentlemen singing boss songs at kind of like. which I'm really missing. So yeah. Any of that local pub experience I think I'm missing the most. Oh, I miss that too. We're going tropical for our cocktail of the week. It's actually Jackson favorite drink and as he puts it a proper blast from the past with a tiny we twist. Our cocktail of the week is the Tropical Flora Dora. Put all of the following ingredients into a shaker. Fifty miles of Porter's tropical old Tom Gin. Twenty five miles of lime juice. Ten MILS OF GUM WHICH IS AKA sugar Sierra. Ten mils of Ginger Sierra. And three raspberries. At ice and then shake shake shake. Then strain it into a high ball glass with ice, and then top it all up with eighty mills of Ginger Ale. Then garnished with a raspberry and a lime wedge. I love this cocktail to. You'll find this recipe plus more Jin recipes and all the cocktails of the week at a lush life manual dot com where you'll find all the ingredients in our shop. Thank God both the Great British Bake off and strictly come dancing have found a way to be socially distanced. I don't think I, and maybe this whole nation has needed them both as much as we do now. The soggy bottom and the sparkles flying this is all the drama I can handle. If you live for lush life. Make sure you're giving back to the bars you love by donating are taking part in cocktail delivery where you live or visiting one now that they're open. Theme. Music for lush life by Stephen Shapiro and used with permission. And Lush life is always and will be forever produced by Yvo. Tara. And sampler media productions. which leads me to say the wise words of Oscar Wilde all things in moderation including moderation, and always drink responsibly in wash your hands and wear a mask. Next week, we're with an author, a brand new pastor and a history maker all wrapped up into one person. Until that time bottom suck.

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Roadtrip por Croacia con Secret Galicia  El Viajero Accidental 85

Podcast RadioViajera

19:59 min | 4 months ago

Roadtrip por Croacia con Secret Galicia El Viajero Accidental 85

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+100 Pick-up Lines for Seducing in Spanish

Limitless Mindset

42:27 min | 8 months ago

+100 Pick-up Lines for Seducing in Spanish

"This is the podcast version of the article. Ninety pickup banter and report lines in spanish for peewee spots dot com. So as you can guess from the domain name. This is a little bit of a detour. From the regular life hacking biohacking personal development content. That goes on this channel and it's quite a bit more knee. Sched in fact if you will are not a single male who speaks or is trying to learn spanish precede listening to this. The risk of wasting your time and being a little bit shocked by. Just how weird some people on the internet are. I'd like to begin though by answering. What i think is a pretty good question. Pretty sure question. But i've got a response for it. That i think is going to be helpful to a lot of people especially those that fit the aforementioned target demographic so i put out a announcement to my email list about the new anxiety. New protocol bioactive protocol. I'm releasing for hacking social anxiety. Trump gets a feedback about what people are dealing with in regards to this and a mr de responded me and he said my social anxiety is usually low except for around my crush. Mr de is a younger guy and this is certainly something that i've struggled with over the years. You feel like you're pretty social and you can come up with witty stuff and you can. You can be into with people but when you get around someone that you really attracted to then your million dollar mouthpiece just kind of shuts down and this is one of these kind of things that bothers me about the mainstream personal development advice if you go to mainstream personal development advice about this kind of situation. They're gonna tell you things like you. Don't just just be yourself around the person that you have a crush on or you know what you ask them what they're interested in and then talk about what they're interested in and in my experience. This just isn't all that effective so the piece of advice. I will preface by saying that. Not all personal development advice is applicable to all people certain personal development. Advice is totally appropriate. And will you really yield results for one person with certain personality type in a certain place in their life and that piece of personal development advice will be completely useless counterproductive to someone else in a different type of position and my advice that i give here and throughout the article that will proceed in. This podcast is very new. Wants to this individual and to specifically to someone who's younger and who's kinda who to a young very young man who's developing their social skills. So we i'm kind of person that i'm very intellectual like passionate about like history technology health entrepreneurship software etc. But if i try to talk to young girls about these kind of topics they will lose interest in me so fast. And i've discovered that there's several simple yet entertaining subjects that make for good conversation with attractive girls and young attractive girls and here they are pets. The animals sexuality in kinks her family and your family travel experiences cultural differences in foreign languages fashion. What she's wearing what you're wearing movies and books. She likes food. Deserts dancing and partying booze and drugs breaking the law getting arrested times. You almost died excetera and these are the topics that will actually move like awkward first dates awkward first interactions. You need someone that you're really attracted to the first couple of times. You talk to them. It's it's probably going to be awkward one way or another but these are the topics that are actually going to move the first date towards sacks towards a the kind of relationship that you actually want with this person and then once you actually seduce them and spike their oxytocin then you could drone on about stuff over dinner all you want so my suggestion to mr de is to construct something of a conversational stack a conversational template that you use with all girls that are young and attractive that consists of these topics that i just ran down and with some consistency. Use this stack and once you've used this particular stack you know five six seven eight ten times with different girls. You'll be able to actually kind of go through the stab be conversational stack. Go through this conversational. Template in a in a consciously competent or what how did they describe it unconsciously competent way. Were you not needing to think really really hard. And you're not needing to improvise really clever shit on the spot and what you'll find is that you'll get around girls that you find really attractive and that improvisational part of your mind that regularly shuts down what you'll do is you'll just go into this stack and you'll keep her engaged because again. These are the topics that engage the vast majority of young attractive girls. And over time as you use this stack you'll you'll be able to improvise on it a little bit more and i'll add a big abstract to this. There's definitely times where you'll you'll meet girls this conversational stack may not be really appropriate to may need like a really smart girl. Who is into engineering in philosophy in entrepreneurship health. And things like that in which case you can talk to her about that thing just such a conversational stack has served me well. In numeral occasions for example a couple of nights ago. I went out salsa dancing here in bulgaria and i ended up dancing with an talking with this girl who from my perspective. For my case she was a non or ten had just a real knockout and we have really sexy chemistry on the dance floor together. It was to be honest. The most excited i ban in recent memory yet the entire time we talked about twenty or thirty minutes. I manage to not run out of things to say. I didn't lock up at any point. There wasn't any really awkward silences while we were interacting. And this is because again. I have a good stack for dealing with these kind of girls. This bulgarian girl. She was one of these girls. That's a little bit cocky as you would expect a a really beautiful woman to be. She was talking about her. She traveled to different countries and quite confident. And i've over the years of dealt with a lot of girls that are well traveled and a little bit cocky and i have a good stack that i can follow in response that i know works pretty well to hook their attention to build a little bit of attraction build rapport. And i just went with that. I didn't try to invent too much crazy stuff on the spot and got her number and have been following up in things. Look like they're actually going pretty good with it. So win in doubt. Go with your conversational stack and check out the blog post. That is actually. You know what i'm gonna do. I'm going to create a blog on peewee spots that addresses the topic of the conversation stack in a little bit more depth. And i will list out those ten or so topics those tender sil themes of areas that you want to focus on in your conversations without any further. Do i'll get into the meat and potatoes of the content of this podcast. Which is the article ninety pickup banter and report lines in spanish for day. Night and text game. I have the pleasure of living in one of the sexiest cities in the world. Medicine columbia for over two years. During this time. I cross trained learning game and mastering a second language spanish. The google docs spreadsheet that you can find through. This article contains over ninety. Now it's been it's been growing been adding to it contains over nine. Be pickup lines jokes. Anecdotes report building questions and the expressions in this bunion along with their corresponding english translations. Now you've probably done some googling of pickup lines and spanish and you've come across a lot of stupid shit like the chaos that lucielle sport peres as hell or something like sorta drawn. Get a robot to corazon that kind of stuff. That is not the kind of silly kind of fakey. Ineffectual information content minds that you're gonna find in my spreadsheet a quick story to begin on a crisp tuesday night. I was sitting on a funky sofa in an almost completely empty glass. Walled rooftop nightclub surrounded by skyscrapers. I didn't care that the nightclub was empty because a knockout gorgeous colombian girl in address. That should have been illegal. Was snuggled up next to me. After about forty-five minutes of conversation her cozma was gone and we descended from the ostentatious disco. That night. She did things in bed which i will never forget. And she spoke. No english as a perpetual novelty seeker and spanish student this was a major milestone. I had managed to sleep with this beautiful classy and mostly sober exotic woman who didn't speak my first language weather. You are salsa. Dancing in new york in a chic lounge in miami waiting for a bus sitting next to a pretty girl and boy knows iras or in a booming discotheque. And he beats these lines. Delivered with confidence and sincerity will be what transforms the usually awkward first few moments of the pickup into a sexy chemistry build interaction a few important notes and guidelines to keep in mind here. Obviously this is a little bit counterintuitive to natural game as they call it. Pick a best. Practice is to not use lines or can game. But instead as i'm sure you've heard before to be present and calibrate specifically to every interaction however like freeze books. Pickup lines are golden as a tool for learning a new language using pre learnt phrases or pickup lines as the cases here in a foreign language makes sense out of and provides emotional context to a confusing mass of exotic words conjugation and grammar rules. Next point to keep in mind. You're always more charming in your second language to native speakers of that language by the very merit of your effort your jokes will be funnier and your charming expressions. More seductive when you're trying to express yourself in your second language and there's actually a little bit of a. I'm going to call it a curve of your charming news in a second language which is contrary to the curve of your competence and your second language that means so i noticed that when i first started learning spanish i could say the stupidest things like soya gum and then the low score cross. I'm the commander of the coconuts and people would find it. Really charming and funny. And at that time that phrase alone represented maybe five or ten percent of my total spanish competency but over time as i became a whole lot more fluent in the language seemingly people's expectations and this is true. Also in in the pickup situation people's expectations of me seemed to arose rise with my competence. And the the complexity of the grammar and the expressions that i was using that seemed to hook people's interest seemed to be tantamount to what my capability was similarly here in eastern europe. Where i've been trying to learn russian. I will say the stupidest silliest little things in russian like your boss caucus of which means. I'm the boss of coconut and people will find it really funny and i expect the same thing as i become more competent in my third language so i encourage you to really relish this period. If you're early in your period of learning spanish i could you to really relish being able to be really charming with a with such a low level of actual command of a language. Okay next point. I apologize for my spanish grammar. Feel free to correct. My grammar in the comments below obviously grammar is a huge component of learning any language but having mastery of grammar is not going to hold you back from meeting women so definitely. Don't let that be an excuse from you. Know letting you be real aggressive in putting yourself out there next point the lines towards the talk of the spreadsheet are the ones that performed the most consistently for me. What's most important with. This kind of list is not that you use what works best for me or for others although it can give you kind of a a good place to start but that you use what you find most amusing next point these like any other pickup line are gonna almost always be best preceded by ola mammo next point. I've attached to various follow up lines and responses when they were effective or amusing. So you may want to check that out next point. Today's young latina digital addict so be prepared for a lot of text facebook and what's up game feel free to copy and paste directly from this spreadsheet to add another dimension of playfulness to my digital interactions. I send photos of things that are cute delicious. Hand sometimes sexy Feel free to steal my best images from a google drive folder that i also have linked on this blog. Post next point. This is not a reinventing of the wheel. A lot of this material and the philosophy behind it comes from real social dynamics and be art of charm and this spreadsheet is kind of just a rearticulating of what the very top experts in the world have spent a huge amount of time developing in espanol and. I haven't completely rip these guys off. What i've done is i have a lot of cases taken content in english and then translated it roughly into spanish and then ran past. Friends of mine are guys that are columbian. That are friends of mine. Gotten their feedback on it and then gone out and used it in field and then what worked and survived made it into the spreadsheet next point. Please only use these lines if you actually have a girl's attention if your guy that uses the shotgun approach online to meeting girls. Please don't use these. These lions will use their charm if the creepers on colombian cupid dot com or any one of the other latin dating websites if guys spam blasting out to thousands of girls a day the curls are little smarter than i think we give them credit for a lotta times and they will lose their effectiveness natural game. Interactions you'll have to check out a flow chart that i created and embedded in this blog. Post where kind of visually breakdown. What a natural game interaction looks like in the the geeky fashion that you have grown to expect from me. I can't describe it that well via podcast so you'll just have to check it out. Okay here's my best canned opener in spanish win. I couldn't come up with something clever. That was amusing to me in the moment or situational. This was my trustee standby can opener. School single on epic ended up pregnant tap. The normal day in hispania did animality mass day australia. Excuse me i've got a question for you. What is the name in spanish of the most famous animal in australia. And the answer is of course guru and i would follow up with a story coon. What else amigos day. Australia dawn says. Aol sonos gongora else. S the noce. Border chose congo rules imus of france from australia. So there the kangaroo tonight the drunken kangaroos and it sounds so stupid but of all the can openers of the probably thousands of sets that. I did that one. That one seemed to work. The best. As i can openers go you can certainly do a whole lot better by going with what's amusing going with. What situationally relevant going with a keen observation best challenging tactic what works best to give the interaction and edge or emotional hook point at a pivotal moment is to ask her to remember your name while you are getting her number. So you'll say quality minority or to quit as me number. Most girls want especially. If you are in a high energy venue they will get embarrassed and usually chase a little more. You can follow up with it. Does that mean nombre with a little bit of a disappointed. Look proceed with mississippi does it was otter mi nombre in nevada. Will it'd be that at all as the little corn on sincere. Jonathan tangle mutuel sweat. They outgoing sarah komo's dead and this is going to result in a much more solid number obviously for this tactic to work. It's super important that you remember her name in an episode of my favorite. Tv show on pickup. We see how remembering names can actually make or break that initial pickup. Sometimes i have an episode linked avai of a really funny tv show. I recommend you check it out when you've got about. I don't know thirty minutes on your hands to ensure you remember her name. I suggest the av association method which is an uncommonly used yet highly effective and fun memory system to remember limitless names instantaneously and i have a free video course on it that you can grab from this blog article. Couple other points on the subject. You realize two minutes into the interaction that you don't remember her name jusque ask it again. It's way more awkward to admit you don't know her name ten to fifteen minutes into the interaction after you started rapport building than it is in the very beginning another point to drink. This is a common theme in pick up and personal development alike and it really does make remembering names easier. Let's talk about opening mixed large or high energy sets easy to oban and hook two or three set fairly rare in latin nightlife. And if you ever see a single girl out socializing sola there's a very good chance she's hooker. That's not what we're looking for here is it. This means you're going to have to open larger mixed groups of four to eight guys and girls frequently if you actually want to do pick up in a latin country in this environment. This may sound intimidating. But if you're going to party with latinos you need to get used to opening these bigger groups as alexander. Treasurer likes to say game. The girl game the group gained the group game. The girl a couple of things to keep in mind whenever you see a big group out partying. There's about a fifty percent chance. It's someone's birthday sue. Show some social intelligence and ask whose birthday it is you say is completely on us. Cheers them by their shot. Or don't and make friends. I only open groups where the girls outnumber the guys. The ratio of guys two girls in a group in my experience is actually the deciding factor in whether the entire group is receptive to my approach. Acknowledged the guys immediately with a quick smile. Wave or orla and more cosmopolitan cities. Hot girls go out with their gay guy friends quite a lot. Actually all the more reason to be super attentive to the body language of the couples around you and approach everything at least in columbia are generally pretty friendly. A lot of times i would find. They would show proof me with their group and they will do the same for you if you're if you're bold and friendly and more a lot of times too if you find a guy that looks pretty well dressed that seems to comport himself with a little bit of gravitas. That has a little bit of that. That latin swagger hill speak some english. And he'll actually be pretty excited about the opportunity to show off to his social group that he speaks some english so there really are some cases where it pays off to be a foreigner so do do keep an eye out for those those guys that look like they got a little bit of swagger that look like they're educated got a little bit of style. Those guys can can can be a whole lot more useful to you than than a hot girl in some situations. You'll find the camera phone opener. A really clever low pressure way to open a mix is to just ask someone in these set to take a picture of you and your wingman with your camera phone with your smartphone. You ask the school base that way as you are nosecone on them and then you just hand them your phone then after they take the photo thank them and start a conversation. This works great for opening a whole group. Actually i tried to open the leader of the group. Usually who is a guy that is obviously with his girlfriend. Or i guy who maybe bought the bottles for the group or a lot of times. Just try to open the high energy girl as she will be kind of setting the mood for her group. Don't call yourself an american. That's right for a while. My first text to a girl would be something like to see soya. America more oiseaux which is actually a pretty effective. I text but i learned it's just slightly offensive for a person from the united states to exclusively assume title of american or america. No in spanish people from central and south. America are also americans and by calling yourself americano. You are kind of excluding them. This is actually kind of a pet peeve of latin americans. If you're from the united states it's better to introduce yourself with whatever state you are from or just call yourself a north day gano or estelle ans- how to ask a girl if she's a prostitute. This actually comes up more often than you would think especially in colombia where the world's oldest profession is legal. I've heard plenty of sad stories of tourists. Who picked up a girl from a club or bar went home with her and then she required payment before sex or maybe they even paid to check into a private room or hotel or whatever and then she demanded money. Obviously you're going to offend a normal girl if you ask her straight up if she's a hooker so i suggest making a joke about it. I will always make conversation. Ask what her job is or what she's studying and if she's wishy washy on her response or if i just feel like being a smart off also something like a story gary also nobody to buy her. What k- soon to caro in those good role puertas garbis eldest diary fires. I'm curious about your job. Because i'm actually myself a very expensive prostitute and i'm not sure if you can afford me. This is classic comedy funny. And you are flipping the tables by saying that. You are the hooker. Since this is hilarious your audience will crack up. I've actually never had a time where this they didn't find this funny where this offended anybody. If she is a hooker she will actually just totally admit it to you. At that point most prostitutes are very good at their jobs. They will go to clubs leach onto gringos friendly dance and party with you for sometimes hours before announcing the transactional nature of the interaction in a lot of these countries for. Here's a little bit of a pickup artist's dilemma. In a lot of these countries for the price of a beer or a shot of liquor which is sometimes like less than two dollars. You can secure female companionship in a bar. Four between thirty to ninety minutes. That's right because huggers never do their jobs sober especially in latin america. They go to bars and they look for guys that will buy them drinks. And a lotta times they will hang out and party with you for four. Like i said in between thirty to sixty minutes if you buy them a drink or two and that's kind of a time period which you can use to practise your spanish if you need to practise your spanish like. Hey what's you could do a whole lot worse than practicing with a beautiful girl. Who's who's half trying to seduce. You have trying to trying to separate you from your from your pesos or your dollars or whatever currency you're dealing with and this is thirty to sixty minutes that you can get in state as people so to speak to interact with the women that you actually want to meet. They can kind of social proof. You you know hookers. Sometimes they dress really conspicuously like hookers but sometimes they just look like normal girls and the other girls in the bar will really not know the difference. Personally i've never had sex with a prostitute but when out having fun and partying. I really don't mind interacting with them. So is this unethical. Will that's really your call to get instant access to the spreadsheet that i've been talking about with the ninety plus pickup lines report. Lines anecdotes techs game. Facebook whatsapp game lines in spanish. You do have to go to this article on p. way spots dot com. And you enter your name and email address in that does give you instant access to those ninety plus lines. The reason i did this with an email often is because like i said you. Just can't underestimate. How many really lame guys. There are on all of these really huge really popular dating websites in latin america. That are just being agreed. Spammy with their approach to seduction. And if i put my spreadsheet out there in the public domain it's probably going to be just a matter of time before vs the content starts to lose its effectiveness so i'm not trying to do any scammy internet marketing stuff. But i do just want to make sure that the people that are downloading that spreadsheet and using the content in an are our opted into the the guidelines in the the general suggestions that i made in the beginning of this article. I'm going to add to this. A short telephone call that i actually inadvertently recorded where i am asking a girl out on a little date to me and i'm attaching this so that you can listen to a couple of things. What you'll hear is that my spanish was actually pretty lacklustre. At least at that time this phone call is from a little bit earlier in my in my spanish speaking career. And you can hear my words. Don't really flow a whole lot. I'm a little bit uncertain but the girl still agrees to meet me and we actually had a pretty good time together. And i do this to encourage you because sometimes guys who are studying pickup poor studying second language who are living as foreigners. Foreign lands pursuing exotic women. Sometimes we feel like we're just being really formulaic. And i think that this is kind of a product of the amount of time that we spend on the internet watching videos about listening to and reading about other guys. That are doing the same thing as us. But i'd really like to remind you that for the girls you are interacting with and trying to seduce you are most likely a top ten percent guy or a top five percent by the the level of consciousness and empathy and intelligence that the average guy. 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FOF #2820  Billy Porters Grammy Fashion Explosion

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FOF #2820 Billy Porters Grammy Fashion Explosion

"The folks have been doing and offering over the fabulous queer fashion at the grammys from Little Nass Fuchsia. Ver- Sachi Cowboy Bondage. Get up to billy reporter's hat. The men on the red carpet brought the house down boots. But some are like in saying that. Queer man like billy porter or little. Nasdaq's are too thirsty for attention but isn't causing a commotion the whole point of walking the red carpet today comedian. Rachel Hall joins us to look at the wild fashion on the grammy's red carpet. Rachel just graduated from the Conservatory at Second City. Which has trained many of the world's funniest people plus aiming to boost diversity Mattel launches new Barbie dolls featuring vitiligo and hairless models. Powell Harry and Megan get on now that they're out of the family business. And what can the cuddle Hormone Oxytocin do for you? I am Fausto for no mark billion and this is feast of fun. Happy Birthday to my beautiful husband. Mark feely and I love you like that. I mean me you you you you you you. Our guest today is the sheet. Larry's comedian Rachel Hall who just graduated from Second City here in Chicago as we go on from that conservatory the Conservatory emphasis on the first syllable. Cons concert sorry conservatory I did. I finally a year and some people that are familiar with the the conservatory is like a series of classes. You take to become Gilda. Radner basically on paper in theory so you could do characters. Now you can do stand up. You can write. You can basically Improv. Yeah because there's there's just Improv. I mean they have a writing programs that goes through levels and takes forever directing programming and Blah Blah Blah. The same thing I went through the Improv Conservatory. Oh woah Oh lady danger take fuck fuck on why that's the best line of AJ in the Queen put so actually say she says dad when they hear when they're in the hotel room with the hot Cuban man and he's all upset and jumping on the bed whatever and then she's like yeah this. Ya He can finally one I now second city for people not familiar is a very famous venue and school for comedy here in Chicago. That sort of gave the start the training for most of the best known comedians currently working in the United States. Yeah Dead Alive. There's so many people that go through the training centers like covered in photos of. Just look at all these people. You'll never be actually came second city. They're the listeners. Might be curious to know. Who's that the editor of the third season and on fourth of cooking with drag queens tie? Pasta got her start. Editing comedy videos Second City. That's why cookie directly is so much better with her without are a lot of production working in industrial and making corporate corporate films and exactly and so they're basically ability to take mountains of garbage US and spin it into yeah is like I have a little bit to do with Catherine O'hare to the Belushi Farley. Billy never worry about. They don't eighty Bryant Co bear. Tina Fey Amy. Poehler like everybody. Everybody goes through their Rude you repeat that. There were some construction happening next door. How rude. Oh this is the magic of podcasting So let's get down to the nitty gritty. Which is billy porter and little very conservative restricted outfits. I mean very. He could have worked to the inauguration ball very classy very understanding where Lizl stole the show with her opening number. I'm so happy to open the show. I'm sad I missed it because I was at surge actually up to St Comedy Club or no is a restaurant pool hall okay. You're you're hanging out in pool halls. Didn't your mother warn you about hanging out. No I've been to a Pool Hall with Dad. So let's talk about billy reporters so these looks that these two gentlemen are sporting on the red carpet. are getting a lot of anger and frustration from other game in big surprise on social media. Where they're saying. Like billy porter and little Nasdaq's are trying too hard or they're pitting one against the other people always have to fight first of all a little Mazda has been wearing basically that exact same tacky as too many Brian Stones and stuff since he started a neon green suit with fringe wants. How is this not on brand because a lot of people are not familiar with either? These gentlemen you know and part of it is like they don't really follow things until they and that's why these celebrities put so much money and effort and energy into one red carpet. Look Yeah they know. It's going to get everybody talking about them and sometimes in show. Bizz an entertainment. It's just a numbers game. You want people talking about you. So they're aware of you so you get casting things you get opportunities you get marketing deals and so on. But that's what. The grammys are four. Like looking over all of the fashion fashion from the grammys. That's always how it's been though. The Grammy's is usually where you go and you're just you're not as ridiculous as you might be at the met gala. But it's like I didn't get invited to the met gala. I'm showing up in an egg. Mike that's what the grameen's are four so in terms of like award shows or events were celebrities dress outrageously yeah the number one is the Matt Gala Yes of course the Oscars new dressing like crazy. Crazy craziest is gala. Gala is always ridiculous. It's always amazing. It's always on our right. Yeah the emphasis is on art. Then below that is so grammies the grammy's then below that is Then he's then he's got the adult films back with a clear skirt. I saw some video of at first I was like what in the white is. This event it because it was two white women of course they were and then one of them like took her paintings. They were in like Dresses gowns and one of them took her panties off and the game. The other girl because I guess the other girl was like my slits to. Hi My coops coming out. And she took her panties off and handed them to the other white woman again and she put them on girl. Thanks and then I found out later. It was like the adult film awards so I was like okay. I GUESS. But like who is trading draws. She borrowed somebody else's underwear and put it on and she yes. She had her friend or I took her draws on these women. Do some of these films. You wouldn't think some of the stuff that they do. My always love. Billy Porter's looks and billy porter the yeah. The men at the grammys but yeah no. It'd be like garlic. And then like the grammys and then it starts getting more subdued. Probably like the kids choice awards because usually like Israel casual for no reason and then you get like Gold Award Golden Globe Oscars and like usually people try and be a little more classes. The Oscars is established you are a fashion icon and dress so billy puertas outfits usually always challenging people with expectations of masculinity and femininity and definitely owes a lot to obviously the ball scene of New York City. Also to drag culture in general and Billy Porter's mainstreaming these looks by putting them in such a front and center focus on me. Yeah I think so. So just before jumping. Let me tell people so this his outfit. Was this kind by Scott Student Berg. His hat was custom. Made by so-called millenary and a mechanical engineering from smooth with two Zeros Task. Then the whole look was put together with. Stylus Sam Rotel and the cost probably was more than what you make an year. Is this designer a drag on the first thing? I thought it was like. Oh man she says this is a drag outfit kicks in the air and this is without that fringe. Dad has dragged aesthetic because it's like instant shade right. It's like draw the lines. You're on my nerves. That was perfect. I if if me personally I was at the game we say for example if Taylor Swift before me and I had that hat I wouldn't dramatically just close it so I wouldn't have to watch and you'll care if you keep the camera on me or not. Everyone can see this shade. The Song World Click by delight. I don't think so. I'll let me play you guys a little bit of it It's samples a mechanical sound of a car window. Like if you're like so sophisticated that your limousine windows up and down. Listen to this. Dj Toa tape from D. light sampling a car electric window Gordon. It's Saturday it's sunny. I need to clean open for the window so you can hear the house out. Do people do that up here. In the North we do that. We have people coming in areas where there's a lot of dust and pollen gets trapped in the House and the House I sa- brave so especially in the south of my like my mother lives in Austin Texas and the Cedar. Fever is raging right now. Yeah and calls me on the phone? And she's like I think. Global warming is responsible for the rise in average INS in the south. Well be for sure. Yeah so I love how bill has. Just become you know he's such a fashion icon. And what I think is very interesting is to issue guys remember Manda Cohen. Who's been on this podcast? We nominated her to be on the reality TV show. What not to wear and they said she was one of the most top ten most difficult makeovers that they ever had. Oh and she actually went to school with billy porter. They were at the same university. They're in different schools but at the same university and she's like I would see him like walking across campus. I'd sit at parties and things like that and now they're both fashion icons of a different sort. That's for good one for bad. What school did they go to the school adult? Tell me what to wear. I I don't see what is mad at Billy Puerto but like I think billy. There's like an expectation billy. In my opinion this is his next big red carpet. He's just going to show up in a good Asu and everyone's GonNa be like it wasn't me like Leiden guy is amazing. Well that's the thing you know like the traditional man suit doesn't leave a lot of room for exploration and experimentation and I feel like there was there. Was this guy who had a do rag at the grammys we had the turban. Chang and then the long part of the rap was was like a wedding dress rain. Yeah which feels heavy. I feel like it. My head would just be pulling but he is. His suit was but I did like the idea of the turban thing. John Legend also a really nice gray suit on but like half of it was longer almost looked like a suit jacket with a kilt. Attached to it was a train porter. Not Bill God the Creator. I didn't know this but like he came dressed as a bellhop or whatever in a suitcase and in the suitcase was what he wore in his performance. I this is exciting. That I'm noticing. Is that like in terms of you know. Two Black Gay men are leading the pack. Yeah but for just African American fashion for for this you know pop culture aesthetic of just saying you know what suits are fine but we want to really shine and so we're going to just bring it all now and it's really. I think it's very exciting. And and it's also sorta showcases an illustrates. How far we have to go as gay men to try to embrace and understand that desire for attention that need for fashion and style and what those things mean for us and what role they have in our community and part of it is like when I read on Social Media Like Billy. Puertas trying too hard. I'm like what is the what is it. You think Billy Puertas job is what what is it that you think why. Why would you expect them to dress a creative eccentric outrageous? I never understood the whole this person's trying to are you don't know them they are. That's probably for Clayton. Probably hard for them by them. Trying too hard. It's hard for them to recognize what's happening there too much. And it's a way of saying too much for me and this with a lot of love and kindness and respect if you have a problem with billy porter way of looking or what he does. That's your problem. Not his Puerto is going to wear whatever he wants to and laugh all the way to the bank. He has a strong fan base. He's getting the gigs. He's cashing the checks. He's showing the people what they WANNA see. Yes and then. They're like overall like the men's fashion. There wasn't really was. Trevor Noah. Looked very nice. Whichever no always looks very abby right. He's so cute. There's I'm looking at it now Oroville Peck and he had the fringe. Mass thing on. I will say this pack was date. Oh okay dating. Kind of what he is. I will say that whoever this Orrville Reddin Bacher man is. He's a country singer from Canada and he always wears that mask boy. We have an idea of who actually is he. For whatever reason he's doing like that whole thing kind of like I'm GONNA hide my face. I like that I didn't like but there was. I'm trying to find. Oh the guy with a turban. Was pod four thousand album a lot. I spent a lot of time going. Who is that Harpo? Who is that woman? I don't know who these people are. I didn't know how old I had become. I don't know who ninety five percent of these people are but I'm trying to find him. There was one guy. Calot looked amazing. How like a red sue non with like a blue shirt. That was really nice but there was one guy up there is Sean Ross. Who Basically wore a trenchcoat? A the underneath was like a turtleneck and then boots all covered in pearls. Like this is something that you see. At the met gala that is a met gala suit As it also reminds me of like some type of disease thank yes it reminded me of. You knows mall. Pox cabbies put them in the back or they see that remind me of. I thought he looked amazing. But he's GonNa get overshadowed because no one knows who he is. But if you guys are listening to this and you want to see it you can go to the facebook group facebook dot com slash groups slash race the Fund. And you can see pictures of all. The outrageous red carpet looks may have a whole section called fashion off. The rails that celebrates The outrageous and wonderful things on fashioned. Yeah I feel like the guys were really going for fashion wise in every all the women were let me just be as classic as possible. Like Arianna gone. They look like one of those barbies on top Barbie cakes. Yeah the BIG O. Skirt even did she look like a Barbie cake. Kids Indiana barbeque which we actually made one on cookie. When Drag Queens James Mansfield Cake Nice Mark was the beauty and the beast in? Oh I like all the stuff. I think it's exciting. You definitely want US talking about it. And they got it on the on the other hand. There's like these weird This this Mexican American woman and this gay guy who used to have a music career both of them and in the waning and the struggle an entertainment. Show business a roller coaster. And when you're down that bottom of the roller coaster it's stressful if Fox with your head and you sometimes snap. And they're both of these guys are become right wing people criticizing your reason the word fascist but for describing trump. But I'm like you know. Go pick up an encyclopedia. The dictionary and banned in like two years reviewed Fascist citizen that you know describes trump to me so one guy he wrote impeach this on his ass and head his ass out. He had his ass out. You WanNA address and you know. I call it fascist fashion because of the show. He's the one with the WHO. That's not a bad ass. I gotTa tell who is he. He's the one that came with the red. He used to be for Britney Spears Ashley on tour and he used to be kind of West Hollywood music personality. And now he's snapped and got become a right wing trump supporter. I mean you gotTa do what you gotTa do for attention at joy. Villa She she wears the skirt that has an aborted fetus on it last year. She did that to first of all I will give inviting them. I will personally between us and anyone who can sing a joy views on often in the idea that it exactly barely know who she is except that she shows up at the grammys trump outfits. I would like to know who invite people to the wall. Some right winger is paying for these people because obviously it's expensive to go to the grammy's if you're not invited or can you buy it. You can buy a ticket to the grammys but you just sit in the back. Which is assuming where she is. And that's not like they addressed those expensive because I'm pretty sure she made a Joanne's the night before so it's just a bunch of sequin right so I'm like who's fans from dot com and just ask sequence or sequences sequin Queens. Looks like you wish. Wish fish and she had that little that feather quill at our hair and she made that herself. Nobody invited her. She made it herself. And she's star. Who is she? Who are the Harpo who who is it? I don't know who she is like. They're doing this to try to show that not. All Americans are rejecting this difficult challenging racist. It's even like it's interesting if they go out and say trump is racist. There's going to be people on social media like you need to save that comment for the extreme like he's literally aligning himself with the clan. So sure what you mean. If he's not racist who is said. He was raised to my brother. My brother's like charm. Donald Trump certainly is not racist. And I was just like what the world do you live in? You don't think Donald Trump is racist. But it's an interesting idea that the idea of accusing someone as racist is like they have a problem with that. And they're right. Now they're you know white fragility is what is they can handle actual racism. They don't have any problem with because ruined. Ripe People. Hear the word racist they when you call someone races. I don't understand how it works. They think the word is the same thing as the N. Word they're like. How dare you call me? I am never been that in. My life moves looking what they think. The word races is the exact same thing as the word nigger they do not because they're so because they have such a strong belief that they're good person that calling them anything other than God's reflection is is is calling them. Nigger is the worst thing on earth. And it's like he is not is not the same thing you know is not the same thing but you choose to be so goddamn offended other besides are instead of learn from the thing. What what a person who says things like that thinks racism is they I don't get lynching they think is people getting dragged behind cars. They think is people. They think it's the lunch counter. Think they probably don't even think the lunch counter thing. Was that big of a deal. But they think that's what it is. I have to. I literally have to have a clan uniform in my backseat and sleep in and on Tuesdays is. That's what they think it is. It's not all it's not about equal opportunities. It's not about job hiring about placement school or any of those kinds of rights because they didn't grow up around it and they think oh well my grandma's an amazing person. She would never like push a picnic with all the rest of my wife friends. They just cannot fathom that someone that they know or them themselves could be anything less than the reflection of God and the thing about it is to like you know if you dig apply the definition of Fascism for example. It says a governmental system led by dictator having complete power. Suppressing opposition and criticism regimenting all industry commerce and emphasizing and aggressive nationalism and racism that to me. Sounds like trump I? I don't know why you would think that that doesn't describe him. Well that's because and there's also the whole thing like always way to make an excuse for something that you like. Someone else does it. So it's like if I'm sitting in for Mark. Your friend is asshole newsletter. He's not he's not this. It's like we can disagree. I can think that asshole That's fine but it's like everyone wants to make an excuse for its constantly making excuse because if they can make an excuse for then therefore they're not an asshole because I've always said you are who you hang out with you. Hang out with a bunch of dicks. Chances are you're too so if you love trump in every once in their going. Trump is racist. Then they're thinking because trump is racist therefore I must be and they are like I just can't fast so he's not racist he's just protecting everyone he's not this he's just help. Americans are looking out for America. I like you can understand that you can like someone but also understand some of the things that they do are fucking terrible. I Love Robert Deniro. I absolutely do but I'm not going to sit here and say that man is funny because he's not people need to learn how to be subjective. Because that's your brother doesn't mean your brother. Is it a sexual like this because your dad was her name? Ivana Discuss. Your Daddy doesn't mean your daddy is not a rapist or sexual. Like come on their things can be more than one thing and people was especially like right now. People having a hard time with with the passing of of Kobe Bryant because he was a great basketball player he did a lot of great things in his life. But then there was this idea of you know that he sexually assaulted a person right. And that's I understand that you can grapple with that and he's like how do I because he did? He's like nineteen when that happened or something. It's like how can you care just like but you still can't care at the end of the day you can dislike. Kogi one at the end of the day. Vanessa Lhasa husband and a daughter. There's two children who don't have older sister and both their parents anymore completely. There are families have been wiped out now So you can have your like. I disagree with Kobe Blah Blah Blah. That's why well my facebook the other day I said what really needs to have a conversation about redemption and rehabilitation. Because I get it I feel told me it was redeemed. I think some people have done that and then a lot of people haven't because at the end of the day. None of us really know what happened. Kobe will always said he never raped that girl and he did fence up to like. Maybe there was some sort of sexual assault because they were both out of whatever but he was acknowledged that there's something to be said about acknowledging your mistakes and then literally growing and trying to defy them the difference between like that and the trump is trump never admit that he had in a steak right. He'll never admit that. I'm curious to hear what the listeners and Rachel have to say about Allison Morris she's the MSNBC newscaster who was caught off guard to some degree on the here in the tragic news of Kobe. Bryant passing and on the air. She claims she stuttered combining the name of the Knicks and the Lakers to say nay curse when she was a k. Very I heard a hard g when she's hard. Jj I said let's listen to this right now. Maybe sensitive ears skip. He's already said the word twice. A white woman was perfect. We cast on the Los Angeles niggers. Los Angeles Lakers convenient. If I could ask you to stay with us and her career descended the courageous started. No she just she got fired. Okay and Fox. News is going to pick her up Fox. News Fox News collects white women with blonde hair. She's next in. The menagerie is Fox News. It could be an what we call an audio illusion an optical illusions but when you see something that isn't there because your eyes are playing tricks did then and the errs sounds right. She she paused. Yeah Yeah I get it because I stumble over words all the time all right Rachel even for people who do not care about basketball. You know that Koby. Bryant plays for the Lakers the New York Knicks. What do they have to do with the Knicks? Weren't even playing the Lakers that night so I don't know what's going on you know in terms of a broadcast news room. It's stressful. It's getting things thrown at you the last minute you know. I've spoken to millions of people in this podcast for fifteen years. I've never combined words like that. To my knowledge. She said some stuff that was weird and I was just like that sounded weird like. Let's let's re record that or something like that right now but when you're doing it live is always you know the other thing too is like there's a six second allow all that shit and it's kind of just like you know. I don't know if you could do so if you could change something like that or sometimes the call isn't made you know. Six seconds is a lot of time for the human brain to process. What's going on? But also here's the thing because. I do live every Wednesday from the factory. Chicago instagram page and say loss of stupid shit. I say so much dumb shit that said I recognize immediately when I say something dumb. She could very easily fucked up. And I've kept going Doesn't know what wait until afterwards and someone was like girl while you hear the show you and she goes I guarantee you. She said it man didn't think about it and someone was like you know you just said nigger on TV and issues like what. Now I have to come up with some bullshit. Excuse if you when you recognize you say something stupid you immediately say. I'm sorry I didn't mean to do that. And you know but the fact that she didn't want to disavow it like immediately as college. She run on twitter that she says I unfortunately stuttered on air combining the name. That wasn't a steady girl. So please no I did not and it would never use a racist term. Apologize for the confusion this caused. It didn't because I heard I hope he was saving money. I hope you real estate or something somewhere or again. She probably got drafted to Fox News. And that's the thing about it is is like she. You're saying that it hasn't cost or anything. I should probably get a GIG someplace else. Frying part of the injustice. That we see you know to me. I'm like I don't really think that much about this issue and almost didn't bring it up just because they're so much overt racism in the White House. That doesn't get talked about are acknowledged. I don't understand why people feel like they can't say something to that man if I got invited to the White House. Yeah you don't care if you don't want to go put my near my face. Well it's like with Artha. Kenny Kirk recorded. It's not they check you hear about the story of Arthur Kit. Being invited by Ladybird Johnson and there are trying to talk about beautify America and earth kits when the microphone was turned her. She said the youth of this country feel like their lives are not worth a damn. You want to beautify America and the war in Vietnam Straight and. She's just like speaking her mind. She went home her managers. What did you just do? And she was banned and then she moved to for forming blacklisted artha listed in the United States for over a decade and she had to move overseas because of that. But it's like I don't understand why people are so. I'm so afraid to say something in front of the camera again because of the consequences on the history of Africa. Do you WANNA move to Paris. France yes actually. We should end all wars and the world. We live in now that people say that things are getting better. But it's like you know for for an actor or performer. To speak out against the war in the nineteen seventies meant. They had to move overseas now. People can expect you to the. Yeah I feel like the only the only people who do that or say something are actors at award shows because awards show and they know. Millions of people are watching. I think there's too many people who care on camera because they need to like any to share. And that's fine if you're gonNA care on camera if you get the right avenue then you say exactly what it is. I will say this. Y'All know again Robert De Niro will say anything he will flat out say he hasn't said I desperately want someone to be on camera with trump. And just be like. Why are you such a bitch like I really desperately want that to happen? Why I think a lot of people are afraid of like Whoa. What the repercussions of something. Like that might be. What are they? Well he's got approval rating of about thirty percent of something. Those thirty percents of people are just terrible people. And you just never know what kind of most of those people are are keyboard. Keyboards ain't GonNa do shit in front of you. There was a recent poll asking people who answer their phones which swing to be conservative. Should trump be impeached and forty nine percent of those people in that poll said no? And at this point. I'm kind of like what's IT GONNA take. Well he's the trial is an undue. Shit whatever this like what does it take. But it's what it takes is what it takes is a virus to knock out everybody government. Just kill them all. Don't kill them all but they all need to be fired. They all need to be fired. They all the fact that I get it you can. This is a whole power struggle and whatever but people we can realize that these senators are more scared of the people who voted for them than anything else and they're so desperate to hold onto some sort of power for themselves People don't realize that they don't give a shit about you or what your opinions are. They considered here. And do all these these speeches about what's good and I believe in this and I believe in that. But it's like he no you don't let's move on. Talking about love Barbie dolls now. Barbie has made news in the recent years by bringing out some barbies of all shapes and sizes and colors and flavors of the thick juicy ones the short and the tall skinny ones and I mean the tall skinny ones have always been around. Now all different shapes and shades hair textures callers nationalities and most. Recently they making the news again really saying till Vitiligo. I go Malaga. Sorry about that and hairless models and malls with amputated legs and wheelchairs. Sorry it just looks like far enough week. It's like it looks like Barbie's been through some shit. Looks Like Barbie? Mattel does needed a way to charge you. Extra five dollars four Barbie mark and I went to like toy stores to try to even just the the thick and juicy Barbie's ever seen those and they're nowhere to be found like you go to stores it's justice is just business as usual. These barbas specialized stores got him. I for real for real because I have two nieces and they never played well. I didn't know never no I never. I didn't know people still play with dolls. I thought Barbie went out of business when when when toys R. US Day. I'm we played with dolls. My sisters played with dolls and so I played with dolls by extension. And I have a Fr- we we're GONNA get this. He was always get to the show. He had over a thousand Barbie dolls. He's ovine Barbie dolls. I used to buy the I love Lucy Collector Barbie dolls. That's because I'm obsessed with Lucille Ball. Do so have them. I still do there in my trunk in my closet. Oh yeah are they. In the package still yes absolutely. I never took them out. You didn't try and hide her in the Conga drum no shared in it. Yeah so we've done quite a few shows about Barbie dolls. John Zondi Zanardi. He has over a thousand barbies and his home. He's been collecting since the age of eighteen. I would never sleep. There you know has has lot of Barbie dolls to a hard time. Getting a boyfriend was when we came over. Here you have this many Barbie dolls. They they would just like walk out of the apartment and never got forty year old Virgin. All those action figures and they. He's trying to get a date and they were like we have to get all this shit out and they cleared it out and there was just like a chair. So if you want to listen to John's podcast. About the thousand barbies you can subscribe on Patriots on fees to fund dot com slash Patriot or become a plus member and listen to so many other podcasts including with comedian Jeffrey Jay. Talking about where no Barbie has gone before. Is he like trying to get a world record for barbies? Yeah he just likes always bought them. I think he also views it at. This point in time is part of his retirement package. Because you know he's like fifty something years old now and he's had been collecting barbies for thirty some years. Okay so let me put it giving us an idea. So like when when Disney absurd Disney bar. Mattel I'm figuring Trixie Mattel Mattel the corporation. The corporation was struggling with Barbie dolls in the late eighties. And they were like where are the young hip people hang out there hanging out at Raves? So they went through these raves. And which were mostly run and visit by gay men and in that time period even lesbians were wearing cock rings as decorations so they came out with adult called earring Magic Ken. Who clearly has a cock ring in the middle of his neck? There's an Oklahoma Cock exactly. Where's he gonNa put it and like me and my friends. We bought it and we loved it but at the same time it caused quite a commotion and they pulled it off. The shelves to this date is the number one bestselling Barbie doll in history. So I'm assuming with a thousand Barbara. He has like the ones that are like rare to finding like collective he has all kinds of Barbie. Yeah from from even the was Julia. Who'S THE AFRICAN AMERICAN ACTRESS? From Dynasty. Diane Carol Diane Carroll Barbie Doll from all kinds of rare ones there he's photographed with the Diane Carroll Barbie Doll Lang's who over the course of time. Her black hair turned red. Thing happened to me who she looks like a Rupaul and Aj and the Queen's that to happen to me and so you know in terms of like the Barbie dolls part of it is that version that the idea of creating diversity is also really good moneymaker because people are going to want to get. The you know amputated leg Barbie Wheelchair Barbie or you know the chemotherapy Barbie feel like that which I get it. That's fine but I feel like in order for that to really be popular parents needed by the Barbie. That does it look like their kid. Because I feel like the people like my daughter has amputee slushy Muslim Barbie. That looks like her which is fine. I get that same thing with my. I am black my daughter Barbie. That is black with like natural hair. But I do feel like like maybe like the white people need to buy the African American Barbie for their white ash child to help them with this whole you WanNa Black Barbie as the help now. I want to play with great. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA you're GonNa get this so you can stop being such an asshole who the ones that are school. That have you know what I mean. I you know. That's not a bad idea. But at the same time a lot of money for Mattel when parents think that buying stuff is a way to addressing the rotten children's behavior that's true you know. Shopping is never the solution representation in their toys. So yeah toilets can be wiped out. But you know what's a good solution is our T. shirt store at face the phone dot com slash store. When you love the podcast and you want to see us make more shows go to face the FOAM DOT COM store. Get yourself a not. 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I think yeah I mean I pay attention to Megan and Harry the other one kate. Kate Middleton and they're about as interesting as a pan of salt denied care about those two born as people. Participate reminds me of somebody. You have it as a neighbor who just like. Oh She's Nice but you know I'm basically I think she's a duchess the duck. She reminds she. Seems like someone who will fight you over like hey girls from having a party at my house and then you get over there and all. She does backhand compliment. Everybody like shut. The fuck up a backhand backhanded compliment. That looks so cute for you. Glance backhanded insult dooming. Whatever yeah she's seems. Megan Bald and looks like a backhand circumcise pain is so cute when he was younger. But you know that Prince Charles caught up with him. A backhanded compliment would be me trying to insult you by saying you're smart in our nearly as an insole and you're like yeah that's a good thing that's kind of compliment com- compliments like. Oh that looks really nice. It FITS YOU STUCK LOUIS. Bat backhanded insult. Yeah and it's always. You're you're insulting somebody by complementing them but when you the other way. Is that when you in salt? Somebody and you're giving them a compliment like like when you were so nice when you try a good for your age yet bitch. That's Cherian hidden and Megan and they're they're they're calling it right. Yeah the question is what are these to do for money. Listen I think she just wanted to go back to suits which. I don't think anybody watches that show as either. I get it. I understand like the leaving because the Paparazzi in England is vicious and they kill Diana. They killed his mom so I can understand that. He's not GonNa get on the crown on the throne unless a whole slew of people die. So why does he need to be there? It's not like the market has power is. Let's let's clarify something just because you've not the head of the monarchs key does not meaner American and make money from it. And there's a lot of people and like you know they. They're taking that away. They're like we don't need anymore. So what is he going to do for a real job? I worked for news. I have no idea while the idea is like I want you know. They're probably thinking that they're going to get a book. Deal Right Harry. We'll get oh they're going to and so there's a minimum fifteen million probably something for that look beyond that they're gonna work for different charities so they're going to be getting a paycheck from that. Should you think she back to acting? She wants to go back to TV. Show that's not even on the air anymore is only on the air for like two seasons. Anyway I never even. I don't even think I even knew anything about hitch. No that was Paula power. No not British people to their excuse. There's things that British society is to racist and is not accepting of their relationship or of Megan. Yeah they weren't accepting of Meghan Hughes American more than anything and then. Yeah the with the popularizing everything. They're just like they're doing backhanded. Compliments but also being racist about it. They're like Oh we're not racist as just like there's a lot of articles out there like this is how the the press handled you know Prince William's wife Right. This is how they've handled Megan and like in the difference is amazing. Everything that Megan's done is like a discount. They say it's tacky say it's terrible and if Kate Middleton and done the same thing they're just like isn't this wonderful she's so expressive and she does this right. He's like that so it's a much different world and I think Meghan never had any attention being glorified wife. That's Kate. Does it do things? Like what is she? Smart does not even voice. Sounds like why I think she went to college right? Did they went to college to meet him How long degree. She went to school to meet him. Well we did a podcast about how to marry a millionaire with Justin Jessica the Human Kendall and he said it's really difficult to actually meet a millionaire because they're not going to be on social media. They're hard to get a hold of and their personal assistants. Usually stop in your tracks. The walk around looking like thought so yeah so if you WanNa meet a wealthy person you have to go to colleges with them or go on vacations where they hang out. So you're at the bar and in Monaco Monaco Monaco some expensive fancy hotel or crews or whatever. Our beach resort. That's where you're GONNA meet. Those just seems like too much work. You've got to go into debt to find somebody. Well you think that go now. Her parents were rich because they party stores. Yeah her parents were rich hearty stores. She's from party. City Party city eras. Yeah she let me also you know. They probably paid their way to college. Like you know you do. But it's not like she's had. I like the idea that she's a fight with someone and they could just yell at her go back to party city but vanity fair vanity Talking about what they're gonNA do is they that they might do. Some kind of Netflix deal. I don't think we're GONNA go. What else are they GONNA do? Well one thing a been noticeable with with some of these girls on Social Media. their Their some of their fans are just the most rotten people but part of it is like you know with lgbtq celebrities when you're in that reality. Tv shows space and you're interacting with public a lot like they do these meet and greets and club events. It almost like an open door to invite abuse for somebody. And you're in most reasonable people. We're going to block them on social media if someone's coming after most people don't but the a lot of these queens they kinda. There's a set of masochistic relationship with and they these people who are out to troll or fuck with them they just think of the most heartful meanest thing they can do and they go after them and then they pretend like they're paying their bills. They're like I donate a lot of money to your kickstarter. I bought all your merchant. I went to see your show the Mike. Those people are not going to be buying any other stuff. Just block them I don I. That's one thing. I will never understand these people who have keyboard courage and they get online or they troll people. Do you just not have anything to do. Are you at the library all day? Because you can't afford to go anywhere else to sit on the computer and talk shit like. Why do you give too hot dams again? I Love Robert Deniro. Razzoo's on Robert. He likes black women having chance but he's like the only celebrity that I truly give a fuck about give. I'M NOT GONNA. I'm not I'm telling you right now. I'm not GonNa try to our right. He's five eight and he's getting shorter 'cause he's old but he's I'm not going to TRIBECA grill to find out if he's there you know what I mean. There's there's plenty of celebrities that I do really enjoy. I think like I admire did it out. Give to fucking Fox. What they did on Tuesday. And so these people who troll people. And they're like I made you. I did this get a life. Find anything to do. Learn a new board game play. Dnd Go outside Mo- alon do something else because you truly festival starting revolution yeah. I can't believe that you truly give two shits. About what little nods ex did yesterday? You had to stay up all night and go there every single page online and talk shit about them when. I'm pretty sure you need to go to the store. Get some more toilet paper. Just do that. Who Cares and the people who read it like the celebrities who read it and they obsess over it and I do not understand I. I just don't get it I. I had one trump. I had one one tweet. I said something about trump. And all these Maga- people try to jump on me and I was just like I don't care I didn't even know until two days later that was put in like twitter jail. Oh you are house like oh I was. I didn't know because I wasn't really offers. Executioners no it was like those tornadoes in Dallas and he was just in Dallas and I had tweeted like wherever trump goes trouble happens and then like Hashtag Tornado Tag Maga- and all these people are like. Oh now trump is the reason for tornadoes and Blah Blah Blah and. That's clearly the only one I read because I didn't care enough to have notifications on anything I don't care I hate notifications. I don't like the little number popping up the screen. I don't like seeing call you if I see something online that you don't I don't care. Let's talk about the married French. Gay couple that invited a nineteen year old over for some socializing and keep paying for little slurp slurp yes and then teenager caught. He's a supposedly cotton sti from them and then he says I've got an ass from you. Saw Give me five thousand dollars. Just like doesn't that cost fifty dollars. Go you get it fixed. But I guess he for whatever reason he thought it was you know the burden of getting this sti that they should pay for it and so there's just like no and he's just like give me money give me money. And so they want they. They just knocked on the door. Somebody knocked on the door and four masked men wearing gloves. Teargassed these guys asking for the money and then finally these guys are just like. Let's call the police on this guy able are so entitled and so right. Now there's a manhunt That's not that's not the APP but the police are actually searching called man underway to find the participants in this hellish. That was the hook up before all the grinder. Scruff on your computer boy the cookie grinder scruff snapchat. Ajc Planet Romeo Christian mingle in Brazil and in different parts of the world. Delisted was one the before the was the blog there was the dating APP that was elevated list dot com on the computer not anap yes around these are people before the computers and so- manhunts just eventually bought like Hornet because they were. We can't compete because nobody's on a keyboard anymore except people over the age of fifty and so it was just like it was just all old man before these before there was an APP market or smartphones. A lot of these dating APPs. Sorry took place on websites. I know it sounds ridiculous to say that but for some people because they're born in the two thousand. Yeah remember people flirting with each other on my space. You know and people are like well facebook. Go wait I'm like you know right now. Two of the top four Democratic presidential candidates say they're going to split up the tech companies if they get elected Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth. Warren I think probably Elizabeth Warren go a little softer. But you know it's going to be that's why you can't really trust anything you see on social media because these social media companies are trying to keep those candidates from becoming president. I don't know how anyone trust anything that they see on. The Internet came from the Internet. Like they can trust us here. Fees to find. Yeah why should we trust you? Because we've been doing this for six sixteen. We're just talking. We're not sitting here going. I'm a medical expert who graduated at the top of my class so when I say that there's nothing wrong with coming in your I. I mean it's healthy like just because you've been around a long time. Does that make you trustworthy? I think what it is is that people interact with us. And we're having a conversation about these things and we're not like hiding behind some corporate firewall. Whatever you guys know who we are. You know what we stand for. We've been having conversations with you guys for quite some time and I think in terms of what the Internet is about like you know. I saw this one article on on a gay blog again news blog. That was talking about. How Great Pete? Booty judge would be for president of the United States and I was just kind of laughing because I was like. It was not presented as a as an opinion piece it was presented as news and opinion. Pieces are now news. And that's bizarre to me but people getting on the Internet and there's like a box that POPs up and they say do you WanNa turn off your commonsense and then they go yes and then they go is okay. There's cookies on this site. And then they go that's fine. And then they dive in and they share the dumbest fucking Shit when they should just be able to use their comprehension skills and go. This is just. This is an opinion and it's dumb but the primaries I think and we have to step back a little bit and remember that one when you're sharing things on social media sometimes you're like half asleep on your phone in your bed and you're kind of almost an unconscious state of mind. Yeah and so. You've got to be really careful. Am I really speaking from my heart for my from my conscious? Mind or am. I just like the cranky unconscious like fuck this person. You know sharing articles from two thousand and nine. They just happened yesterday. get this off and and you know. I would say the top four candidates which is Biden Warren Bernie Sanders and Budi. Judge are to me. It's like I wouldn't be complaining of either. Any of them would be president. I WanNa know who these people are. That are voting for Biden. I have never in my life. Old Man you don't know old black people who go to church a lot. I think about it because I always hear this and I'm like who. Who are these people like it? Somebody's like somebody somewhere That's true well it's you know. One person with Amy Cloven Shirt Obama. And it's kind of like he's still basking in the sunshine of Obama. But I I wish he would stop saying Obama's name every other Senate we get it you know him. One shot like most people are dislike. If there was ever a fistfight between presidents. I want to see Biden. Kick the shit out of trump. I think people want to see a literal fight with Joe Biden. And that's why he's a weapon. No not just those guns on known as biceps that's why he's always challenging people to push ups and getting all confrontation on the. Is You know Rand Paul. I hope I'm in good shape and have as much hair on my head through the course of hair plugs. When I'm Joe Biden's age so you can buy it just like he bought them ten thousand dollars ten grand go to Mexico. It's cheaper gotTA start saving now. Can you do like hair transplants of vacation? I'm sure you can't corral do that. Between season two and season three of the office remember he was going bald. You could see it in season one of the office. It was a little thin there and then all of a sudden next season it was like look how thick luxurious deep corrales hair has. I'm just scared of going to Mexico to get hair transplant. Says I'll wind up looking like Marinette. Let's go to the flea market. You'RE GONNA get Turkey. Motel actually says she models her makeup their idea she got from a Mexican flea market marionette now because they look really freaking weird like the puppets and Sound of music and the lonely goatherd. Yeah does that pop picture in your head. That is follow across the room. And it's like I just don't worry about I want somebody has a little bit aesthetics. They also say that. There's a limit to how much hair you can pull from the back of your head to the front because then you go in the back. Don't they have like soy? Grow back just real. You just relocating. Its evily across your head. You know I thought they dislike put pieces of hair and I usually know barring Barbie doll with the ball to make myself feel better I mean I know I know with black guys. There's like these unit things that they see and honestly the most fascinating videos you've ever seen in your life if you dislike go to Google and it'd be like black men units. I whatever where it's like safe. They're already like balding in the middle or whatever they literally shave all of it off and they draw where their headline is and they'll get like that cheap marley hair people break the full four dollar a pack loose hair and then they glue they like create like a harp of glue on their head and they like glue that down and then they pick that out and then they like you know. Cut It like normal in it. Looks fucking real. Look I've watched those videos so it's fascinating that haircut that every like a lot of the guys have especially yeah guys. It's super short on the sides. And then they have this very long like mop top on Todd James Dean. That kind of that often too is just like. That's a carpet. So that's you know that's been glued on top of the head and I gotTa say a lot of times. It looks just most of the time. It looks amazing. And you can't even tell and I'm just kind of my little thing. Maybe I should shave it one of those things. You don't do that. The thing is it's like you. Can't you almost have to wait to the point where you still have like enough hair on your own and then go do it? Because it's weird that everyone's been seeing you bald for all these years and then you just show up just luxury. I have discovered that hair powder is a wonderful thing. Yeah I watched a video on facebook. An older welby. She's like what an older woman needs to know about makeup. And she's just like she's like during her makeup and I the hair powder is wonderful. And she's like power putting the powder just whatever. I'm just like. Oh all that and I was just like wow. This really does work. Yeah tollackson toast before we start Rachel Rachel Hall. That's me now. She's a star second city soon to be on television. One day. I have a teaser commercial out. You do cheese crackers on television. Jesus commercial cheese it snaps. What are you in the ad on Youtube eating cheese? It's I'm sure you can find it on Youtube but if you WANNA like looking for that ad on I spot dot TV which is like this thing where they hold all the commercials and you look it up. But it's on. I finally saw it in the wild the other day when I was watching something on Hulu kitching if it is. They shouldn't get any commercial on the program the other day. I was like. What's real. How does that work? Do they send you checks every time it airs get one okay contract residuals if they knew that particular because it normally is this commercial is going to run for six months or a year. And here's all the venues and then these are like one big price for it at all. When you went to the audition. Did they make you eat a lot of crackers they did? I honestly do not think I was going to get it. And I kind of don't want to say I didn't want it because I want every job. Audition for but during that audition. That was right before I went back to Dallas to teach at the thespians convention. So like the day of the audition. The Lesbian Convention as Thespian Convention. I wasn't that audition and I remember kind of like just you know how sometimes you just don't feel like doing something so. I was kind of like a blue kind of day and so I went in and they wanted. They wanted everyone to like like wildly. These cheeses like like monster like cookie monster like throw them in the air. Like just fucking lose your mind over. How wonderful tease. It's our and I remember. I went into the audition and I was like I want to do that. I don't like cheeses that much because there were people jumping on tables. Apparently the girl in the lead the to lead women who we all have the same agent. They got it because in the audition their their friends one of them was eating. It and the other one was spinning into the mouth. Like a baby bird. They were only two girls one cup but with your mouth and that's what two girls. One Cup is their booty the car. She vomited in term She has her mouth. They did a two girls one cup with cheeses. Yeah I never saw that video. I don't want to see that video. That's how they go home. Mom wanted everything but I knew that the callback was gonna be the same day. I was flying out so I went to the original dishing. Like they're not gonNA call me in because I'm not going to be here whatever and then I got called back and I was like why I'm leaving that day so like my flight was at like two something like eight two and then they try to give me a call back and I was like at three and I was like well. I'm not going. And then my agent asked they were like. Was there another time that you can come and I was like if I can go but I have to leave by twelve thirty and so I got there and I was like again. They're not going to want to do this. Because the filming is technically right. When I come back so I won't be here for fittings or anything like that and then they still cast me anyway so I was like oh. They cast the two girls. One Cup. Is Three Girls One box crackers? So they're like the two I guess quote unquote like lead. One of them is like the Tester and someone else's like she's the one that starts the chaos that ensued and the rest of us to see once John on some cheeses. 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HR 2: Cancel Culture

Mason & Ireland

38:37 min | 6 months ago

HR 2: Cancel Culture

"Ready go here's part. One of today's lakers back to back phrase that pays it is the word double the word double coming up for you. To fifteen is part. Two of the lakers back to back phrase that pays and then at the bottom of the hour to thirty your cue to call be caller number. Seven hundred dollars lakers gift store card autograph lakers basketball and a qualified to win a thousand dollars. Cash that were given away on friday again. Stick with us to fifteen. The second part of the lakers back phrase pace ireland. You said you had something on the former mets general manager story. Yeah okay so you know the thing. I hate more than anything in the world is cancel culture. I hate it s really i. I've taken what. I will call the bryan cranston approach to this. You remember that brian. A couple of weeks ago sent out a heartfelt video where he basically said. Hey we've got to stop doing this. We've got to stop looking for people and finding stuff that happened to him four years ago and then bring it up and cancelling them well then. That happened years ago with the mets dry harassers ago. Twenty sixteen and the reason that this report brought it up now. Usps knew about this in two thousand seventeen. Yes she asked them not to report it because she felt like it would adversely affect her career. She was trying to make it in the media. She thought that if she became labeled as the girl who ratted out jared porter that she wouldn't be and so now she's out of the media. She's she's gone onto a different career. She's moved back to her home country. We don't know where that country is and so. She said she wanted to bring it up now. So this you know puertas in a bigger position of power and she didn't want this to happen to somebody else. Which is a noble reason for doing something. Sure here's my question. I am now looking at everything through the cranston lens right. I'm looking for reasons to give people second chances. I want people to be cancelled because this guy will now never get another job in baseball. He's labeled with this. It's over for him. he's forty one. I've never met him. And so it's it's immaterial. I don't have a dog in the fight. But i can't find one here. I don't think you can let him keep his job. If i give you that assignment find a way not to cancel this guy. Can you do it. Well i mean. I hate the word. Cancel here i mean i by the way i disagree with a lot of what brian said in his his speech on. I think it was on facebook. Yeah because what you do. And what. You say has ramifications. I mean the market will decide whether or not this guy gets another job. And you don't really believe that dea does the market deci- i think the market does decide whether or not he gets but no-one no-one in baseball can hire him now. He's he's completely toxic it so then the market has decided right. He's a sleazy dude. Right do you want not saying. He doesn't deserve it as a matter of fact i'm saying that i don't think i can find a way to keep them. I really can't. I mean he's in he's in a position of power okay. He can't if he treats women like this. He can't be in a position of power. I don't know why this popped into my head but as you know we're friends with molly night. Who rose one of my favorite baseball books. Ever on the dodgers. I'm the best team money can buy. Fantastic and molly is besides being friend of ours. She's attractive. I'm sure she's put up with stuff like this before. I haven't talked to her about this but pictured her in the scenario like her trying to get information to write her next book store or whatever she's working on and then her having to deal with some guys sending in pictures of his junk and it repulsed me. And i thought well. This isn't the first time this guy's done this properly. He's probably done to other people so you can't trust that he won't do it again so now anybody who hires them. Moving forward is liable for hiring this guy now that he has this in his past legal and so i'm curious what happens to this guy now i mean we just let him go get another career doing something else. Well i mean again. This is one of those things where i don't think it's i don't think the word cancel is appropriate. He did a whole bunch of sleazy stuff and again what you do and what you say has got ramifications that if if he's talented enough if he can overcome we've seen people overcome stuff before if somebody says. Hey that guy so talented. We're going to look past all the sleazy stuff and we're going to hire them then. The market has decided if the market again the market being all of major league baseball says we can't disguise not talented enough to overcome. He's fine. he's a good. He's he's done good work but it is. That cancelling somebody yeah. He's canceled. I mean it's it's now it's happened but like roberto the relief pitcher because he can throw one hundred miles an hour. He kept getting jobs correct. And so that's what so the question is. Is he talented enough as a front office executive for somebody to say you know what we know. He's got all this sleazy stuff but man. He is really good at his job. So we are going to sign him for a back office position in a year or in two years and say you know what. You're the director of scouting. You're the director of team personnel. But you're in the mix for conversations see to me okay let's take the cancellation thing. The cancellation thing thing. So let's just take Let's say louis. Ck who did a bunch of describing stuff right. So louis is outdoor comedy right now now. Some people want to go see him. Some people say i would never go see him is that is he been cancelled in other words. If he's out there and he's doing shows and some people say you know what louis is so funny. I am going to go see his show even though he did all that. Disgusting stuff or louis is so disgusting. I would never like his comedy. Is that not the market deciding. Whether or not louis c. k. Is going to be successful again. I i would say it's apples and oranges. Only because louis c. k. doesn't have a boss. He kinda works for himself. You know this guy. Jared porter can't own a baseball team and what was funny about this story to was lindsay article about an hour after the story broke that some woman is accusing steve cohen. The new owner of the mets the guy who fired porter of a similar thing. Yeah but because he's the owner as you and i've talked about a million times when we found out with frank lacorte. You can't really fire the owner. No you cannot. And it took extraordinary circumstances to get mcchord out. Like i can't even think of another instance. There's donald sterling. And there's frank mccall sort of another instance where an owner has been fired. I'd jerry richardson sort of for the kind of behavior to sell the team. Yeah for the same kind of behavior. Yeah it's it's we're getting to a point now and by the way. Do you have any problem that this came out. Four years after the fact. No i do not if the i understand the woman not making an issue of it when she was trying to establish yourself as a reporter. Espn knew about the story. This is reporting. I mean this is what journalists do isn't it jeff and meena. Did they uncovered this story. And that's to me that's i. It's an important story because this guy for all we know this may not even be the only woman right. Hey don't only do this once. Do you own a any pictures of yourself in any state of undressed. I don't know and listen. I have a deal that we will never ever enter any condition. Send each other stuff like that. Just because a friend of mine has a great line about this. If it wants you send its into the atmosphere. Oh yeah control. It and i was reading. Was it sarahspain three. Pin yeah yeah she goes. Here's a really good policy for guys. If we want to see your junk we'll ask sure if not lindsay. What do you think about the straight you do. You think there's any way to cut this guy a break or is he. Is he completely done no. I think he's completely done. And i just want to point out that. I feel like a lot of guys I don't know if this is unfair. But i feel like a lot of guys are way too persistent like this guy. I mean he had what sixty two unanswered text messages to the woman. Who don't you get the message right. And i'll even say there was a guy that i met a week ago. I exchanged maybe three or four texts with him. Realize the guy likes to waste all time and this is you. You didn't want to pursue anything. Wait a minute this happened. Two weeks ago. I'll like a week or two ago. How did you. How did you make this connection like a friend of a friend of a friend type thing so you start texting back and forth. And he's a guy who likes to waste in your no part of that way lindsay lindsay was it mason mason speed for your text messages. And then i was just like yeah. I'm not really a big drinker. So i i don't really know if we have a whole lot in common and i kinda thought that that was like the end of it you know and he kept texting me for up until yesterday he would send me like one or two day like so. Is this over. Or i guess so. Are you going through something. I just wanted to be like i i wanted to answer. It'd be like are you psycho. But i figured silence was enough question over on general. I don't think he should cut this guy break. And i think guys need to learn their boundaries. A little bit better. Yeah coming up next for part. Two of the back toback lakers phrase that page again. We're giving away a thousand dollars this week on mason in ireland. Plus we've got the scoop coming up next for you mason. Ireland seventeen espn. I'd hurry. go part. Two of the lakers back to back phrase that pays as the word screen the word screen. Now be listening to thirty for your cue to call. Caller number seven with the correct phrase wins. One hundred dollar lakers store gift card. An autograph lakers basketball. And you qualify to win a thousand dollars cash. Keep on listening for the lakers. Back back phrase the pace shawn watson maybe on the verge of demanding a trade from the houston. Texans not only as watson upset by the way. The general manager was hired. He was supposed to be part of the process. and instead kalmyk near hired. Nick caserio without talking to watson. He's also upset. That mcnair did not show real understanding of social justice issues back in the spring. Now if you're mcnair what would you do. Right now to salvage the relationship between watson and the texans. I don't know if it could be salvaged maze. Here's why watson is apparently not taking any of their phone calls right you. It takes two people have a conversation two willing participants. You can't just go drive over to his house and camp out until he comes out and talks to you if you don't want to talk to him and he doesn't wanna talk. I mean if you want to talk to him and he doesn't want to talk to you you you can't force somebody to have a conversation. It sounds to me like this. Maybe unsalvageable if what's is refusing to speak with sa's or or Mcnair or any of these guys from the texans. How can they salvage it so i think there's an answer here. What is it. The answer is the sean you pick the head coach. Who do you want to play for. We want to empower you. To make this decision you are the franchise you are. The guy were building around. What coach do you think. Put you in the best position to be successful. Don't you think that is a way to get to shawn watson back. I've read stories that maybe if they hire the enemy because you you mentioned the social spent justice aspect of this and there were seven. Nfl head coaching openings. And so far. No black guys have been hired for any of them if they were to hire be enemy he gets the chiefs playbook and it's a it's a black head coach in houston which he feels they're sorely lacking maybe that is a possible answer but he still has to talk to him. I right right. He does he does. But to me. That if i was to shawn watson and i was given the empowered that way i think i might change the way i feel about the organization because his interface the person he's gonna wind up dealing the most with is not nick caserio the general manager. It's going to be that head coach. And so if you empower watson to choose that head coach hey who do you want to play for. I think that's a way to tell shawn watson to signal hit to him that you are the franchise you're the star. You're the guy were building around. Can you work for a a an owner. Who's bozo who you don't respect. It's got like plane for donald sterling isn't it isn't like playing for. I don't know. I think that's how sean looks at these guys. He looks at as incompetent and bordering on racially insensitive. Yeah i i guess that's right. But if you hire a black head coach eric. Piano donald sterling hired elgin baylor and kept him in there for twenty plus years. Yeah he he never had any power right. Never power right. So what's the problem. All right you yep okay mesa. Every team in the nfl loves to say that it has the best fans in the nfl. Yes but i don't think it's close. Listen to this story in the second half of the ravens bills game on saturday. Lamar jackson had to leave the concussion buffalo fans on a red message board began a push for donations to jackson's favorite charity. A child hunger organization based in louisville where the 2016 heisman trophy winner starred for the cardinals in roughly fourteen hours after the game ended blessings in backpack received fifty five hundred individual donations from bills fans totaling over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars according to their chief marketing officer and that was as of ten. Am on monday. Coulda gone way up by now on the finally the twenty. Seventeen regular season. Quarterback andy dalton. Then with the bengals threw a touchdown pass in the final minute to beat the ravens and clinch. Buffalo's first playoff berth. In seventeen years bills fans were so grateful that they donated more than four hundred and fifteen thousand dollars to the indian jordan dalton foundation for seriously ill children does any other. Nfl fan base. Do stuff like this. doesn't that give the bills. The real title of best fans in the nfl one hundred percent. And you know. I think. I'm gonna said this yesterday but because of this and because it's a great story the bills have never got no. I am adopting the bills to be my team. The rest of the way within the final four because your teams out. So i'm going to stop the bills. Go bills go josh allen. Go bills mafia. I'm like one hundred percent all in on them. That is the coolest fan base. there is flat out period. I'm next time next time some coacher. Gm windbags says well as of course we have the best feds of the nfl near. You don't divest fans the. Nfl earned buffalo. I'm they prove it all the time. It's to you all right this friday on. Abc big abc. Conor mcgregor will fight justin four when we were kids. Professional boxing was on friday nights for free. We used to watched. Ali fight on friday nights and primetime all the time. This is going to be on fri network tv. Do you think the ufc is going to be a new friday. Night tradition on abc and the other part of the question is. Why do you think dana white is giving this away for free instead of on pay per view. Well i think he's got a big deal with espn and espn and abc are owned by disney and same company. So i think dana is trying to throw a bone to the people who gave him all those millions and very anxious to see how this does and the ratings you know. The ratings for everything for tv for radio for movies are all in the toilet. So let's see if this can break through live. Sports has been the one thing that people actually. we'll watch. it might do. Well what do you think. I think it's going to do great and by the way i think it's a great way is the big star in the sport conor mcgregor. I think it is a great way for dana white and for espn to hook the regular audience. That might not normally watch it. Got something pay per view down the line. Yeah so it's actually an investment in the future. That's a yeah that's a really good point all right. It's to me right. Yep okay don't get overly political here. I don't think you will. I think we can talk about this Did you watch bill. Maher real time with bill maher. I did okay. So i thought bill made an interesting point he asked. Why do we need to have an inauguration ceremony at all this week for new president. Joe biden maher who is a biden. Supporter suggested that president biden and vice president khama harris should take the oath privately and then just take over the oval office and go to work. We're in a pandemic or all being encouraged not to gather and this would be a great look for new president katie couric who was a panelist on the show disagreed. Katie thinks american needs a ceremony to show that we've turned a corner and this is one of those moments in american history that we all need. Do you agree more with bill. Maher or katie couric scary but i agree with katie couric. I mean i think it is especially after people attacked the capital. I think it is a signal to the country and the world that no matter what happened before we have traditions and we are going to honor those and we are not afraid so i am in favour of what katy kirk said that. This is a tradition. That is necessary. What do you think interesting. I'm the exact opposite. i think i agree with bill. Maher that one of the things that joe biden has shown from the beginning that he takes this pandemic way more seriously than the previous administration. Yep and this an example of him to show how we're asking people nationally don't gather don't go. Don't go to christmas. Don't go celebrate with people. I think it'd be really cool thing. But i will say this. I've mentioned i asked this question to five or six of my friends over the past two or three ever since. When was that on. Friday night. Friday and they're totally evenly divided. Have people with me half the people who are with you. I i asked last night. I asked three guys at the lakers game and two of them said nope we got. We gotta have a certain all the things you said. We've got to have ceremony. The other one went come on man wearing a pandemic all that stuff has got to be put on hold so it's a very interesting debate that i think is about fifty fifty. Hey lindsay what do you think about that particular question. I think it would probably be safer to forgo it this year. Just because everything else going on besides the pandemic i think it's a What's the word charged time in the country politically so i feel like very volatile volatile might be safe is just to sit this out. I think they're going to do is not open to the public but they are inviting a hundred different people. From congress i think actually kareem abdul jabbar is going to be part of that ceremony. I assume they're all going to be wearing mass. Joe biden always wears mass. So i obviously hoping and praying. Nobody sick and more early. I'm hoping and praying that. There's no trouble that everybody plays this smart and plays it safe. Yeah all right so we got a few things coming up for you. John i was. I wasn't going to do this story. But i think i will. Because it fits into what's going on with the fired mets general manager story about a reporter. Who did an expose. that completely backfired on him. Okay it's going to raise your issue. Of cancelling all that stuff. So that's coming up for you. Plus kyrie met the media today for the first time since his absence. We will bring you some of that as well. Coming up mason ireland seventeen. Espn aride roberto says from culver city. Roberto you're caller number seven. Congratulations thank you thank you. You're do you know the back to back lakers phrase that pays bubble screen double screen. Absolutely right roberto. you went. One hundred dollar lakers store. Gift card and autograph lakers basketball. And you're qualified two thousand dollars that were given away on friday feeling good. Yeah yes absolutely man. Thanks a lot we appreciate you. Listen to man. I appreciate your thank you cool. And don't forget listened tomorrow at two o'clock for the next back toback lakers back to back phrase pays got a chance to win a thousand dollars cash for mason ireland. Okay so i am stupid af. Because i don't think i got this conor mcgregor story quite right. Do we have any clarification lindsay. So i'm with you. Whereas i thought that the mcgregor fight was going to be on abc. I know for sure. This saturday's ufc fight will be on afc on abc. But it looks like this the main event in this fight this weekend max. Holloway and calvin qatar and that conor mcgregor's fight isn't for a couple days. Let's see what day is that things the twenty third and. I think that one's going to be a paper view. Okay so conor mcgregor will not be on. Abc but there will be a ufc card on saturday on abc. And it's just more proof than i am stupid af john. Stupid a f- okay. Hey before you get to this next story. Our charles freeman. Who's one of our best listeners. tweeted this about the question. You asked me about shawn watson. Yes mace no. No no any agent worth their ten percent would never set up a client like that if watson chose the head coach and it didn't work out. Do you realize how bad the fault would be in houston and across the league. That's actually a fair point. Isn't it that the problem is even. If they let shawn watson pick the coach they would kind of have to sell it publicly like they pick the head coach right so to. Sean wouldn't take the here. It did charles charles right. You don't want you don't wanna bullseye on his back for that. Yeah you don't want to publicly say it but maybe privately say he doesn't get with right. Hey nice hired to sean. You really know how to pick them. You don't want that to ever have the other thing was isn't one of the players you have you ask jeff passan about when we had him on. Kirby yates h yes. Sign with the blue jays off the board. Okay i like the dodgers bullpen. As is i think they've got a whole bunch of arms the same arms that were really effective last year in the postseason so they didn't need them. They were in on brad hand. They were in gates. I don't think they're gonna wind up. Liam hendriks they were apparently having conversations with all. Those guys are gone. And i don't think they're getting brad hand but i liked the bullpen. The way it is they re signed. Actually you know who they brought in brandon is back remember brandon morrow from the bullpen ago. He wasn't very good. Last dramatic was hurt for most of it right but they are really good at finding those reclamation projects and obviously one of those. He was hurt before they signed him before i saw john. Detroit free press writer marlowe alter may have to find a new job earlier this week. Marlow tried to expose. And by the way dan campbell whose new orleans assistant is probably going to be the next head coach of the lions. He's their top candidate. He tried to expose lion's head. Coach candidate candidate. Dan campbell over some old comments that were regarded as anti-gay during a nineteen ninety eight texas am pep rally during the pep rally called the aggie bonfire before the game. He was a senior. He made an anti-gay remark in front of forty thousand students. He said i like going to am where men like. Women and women like men. A local newspaper later published an apology from campbell. In the days after the event he says. I fended some people. I'm sorry for that. It was the heat of the moment. It's not necessarily that directed at anyone. So he has this incident in his past when he was twenty one years old so marlow her as it turns out on his twitter timeline. Somebody went back. He tweeted the f. Word the gay slur f word a whole bunch of times like i always knew yura f word. I'm not taking f word summer classes this summer. What the f. is a man. What the f. is a man michigan bro. Oh a huge f- so he's basically using the gay slur over and over again in tweets from twenty twelve. Now if you're trying to expose a head. Coaching candidate with a moment in his life where he said something that was perceived as anti gay. Now marlow alter finds out. He said a bunch of anti gay stuff on his twitter. How does this whole thing play out. Campbell is likely still going to get the lion's job what happens to the sports writer who tried to expose him wow he. He had an anti-gay thing was turns out. The writer had all kinds of anti gay stuff on. Yeah i again. I don't. I don't know if people have got to be smarter. I'm one person trying not to cancel. People and i don't know how you help these people. I mean he went. After dan campbell saying he did some anti-gay stuff right and as it turns out. The writer did anti-gay stuff on twitter. Yeah and so now. Neither one i mean it just doesn't make any sense and now the writer. I don't think he has any credibility right. Yeah i mean you can't take what he says seriously and by the way if you you have to know you put that stuff out there you have to know you used to say a bunch of anti-gay style right so don't write an article about the potential next head coach anti-gay stuff it. Just the whole thing backfired on the writer. And now there's a fuhrer in detroit and it looks like marlowe alter will be fired by detroit. Free press. I've yeah i mean he. He put a spotlight on something that he was guilty of himself. I don't know how you yeah. I mean again. Even if you wanted to try and help them. I don't think you can all right so Coming up next kyrie had a press conference today for the first time since his extended absence from the brooklyn nets. We got some of that coming up for you and john. I'm gonna do something that george clooney does. We're gonna do radio tinder necks. You want to instead instead of that. Movie tees is i was doing so good today. We're not so much do it later. Okay all that stuff is coming up at some point in the show but next it's radio tender mason ireland seven ten. Espn radio tinder time. Linda can i say something before. We go radio tinder. go for it me. Okay so i wanted to say something about both. The next head coach of the lions dan campbell and the writer who had that stuff exposed from twenty twelve. You know what nobody should be measured by what they did when they were seventeen years old or what they did when they were twenty one years old people grow people change. I don't think that guy uses the f word anymore. He did it as a kid. I would not fire that guy. I think you should write a column about How how he screwed up. But i don't think you should fire that guy. He was Seventeen years old when those tweets went out. He's now sports writer. I think that that should be forgiven. And i'm the gay guy on the panel here. I think that should be forgiven. So that's that's my take on that an eighteen to go along with your kyri. Tease when i do get to kyri. There's a great quote where he addresses that exact thing about how you know. He may have said and done some stupid things when he was younger. But that he's growing up he's maturing as a person actually excellent some. We can talk about later okay. Radio tinder time lynch where you got all right. The cavs are planning to trade or two twenty nineteen first rounder. Kevin porter jr. porter has largely been away from the team this season for personal reasons and he was on his way working. His way back attended his first game on friday night when he got into a screaming match with team officials after his locker was moved after the episode where he reportedly through some food at cavs. Jim altman porter was told to clean out. His locker and other members of the roster were informed. He'd no longer beyond the team now. The cavs took a flyer importer. Who's a very talented young player. But he also has personal issues. He needs to work out. Would you take a flyer on him. If you're the lakers wipe left or swipe right. Probably not on the lakers. I think that they have a chemistry and a camaraderie that they wouldn't want to add a guy who's throwing food at the general manager too but they did with jr. But didn't i think jr was a clutch client and rich. Paul vowed forum. So i think that might have been the case there But i you know who knows. Maybe maybe rob not them or maybe somebody in the laker family knows mason sports. If you have talent you often get second chances. So i think this guy. Unlike some of the people we've been talking about today probably will get a second chance gal. I absolutely think so. I absolutely think so. I don't want the guys talent. This is another thing you know what you have a blow up at one point so you have a blow up at one point. That doesn't mean you're done for your career. He potentially has a lot of talent. He's got a lot of potential in the league. He's not right for the lakers. Because i love our roster the way it is right now. I don't see who you would get rid of to make room for kevin porter but there's a place for a for somewhere in the league somewhere where he's going to get some playing time and develop a role for himself helpfully. Hopefully i next one here. Alec baldwin had enough of twitter. The actor is giving up on the social platform in the wake of weeks of backlash over his wife. Hilarious spanish heritage claims baldwin tweeted quote. Twitter is like a party where everyone is screaming not much of a party. Goodbye for now in quote. Have you ever had to temporarily deactivate any of your social media accounts swipe left or swipe right. I've never i've never had to deactivate. I've had to delete tweets before. But i've never had to. I don't think i've ever deactivated in account. Mace of you. I have never needed to delete an account. What about taking a break. People a lot of people are like deleting facebook that's like a big thing delete facebook. I don't know why you have to delete facebook. Privacy concerns the main reason for facebook. Yeah yeah no. I've never had to delete a social media account private all privacy. Yeah you'd never found it to be so volatile that you just need to like just get off for awhile and just deactivated and not deal with anything yet. Never had that yet could become an. I keep my social media stuff completely in perspective. It's just social media. I don't take it that seriously. Well i think that the fact that you guys. Aren't you know embattled in the middle of a heritage claim scandal should be okay. Sure next one here. The ravens waived backup quarterback robert griffin the third on monday two days after their season ending loss to the bills griffin joined the ravens in two thousand eighteen and played primarily as lamar jackson's backup. Rg three played in fourteen games over three seasons with the ravens including two starts. If he goes on claimed on waivers he'll become a free agent at thirty years old will he get another shot in the nfl. Swipe left or swipe right. Miss what you think. I think I think he will get shot in the nfl. There are flashes of potential and again. There is some behavioral stuff that has gotten him into trouble. Maybe too many times. In this case. But i think you could take a flyer on them lindsey. I don't know it it again. Talent wins out in the. nfl depends on he performed. what lindsay. What do you think wait well. I'm confused what. I don't remember what he did off off the field behavior wise. Did i always thought that he was. I don't know. I mean i know that. Like gruden had an issue with them when they they. He was on that team that he was coaching. But i i've never heard anything about him being a jerk or anything like that. So why would you get another chance. Then yeah i guess i mean yeah. I think the biggest question was him. Kenny stay healthy. But i think all and the few games that he played with the ravens i know he was in for a little bit against the browns netware evens game and he looked all right so i feel like i mean if if you can play. If he's still got something then he plays. I've tend to think. Actually i tend to think he's a little worn out. He's not the guy he used to be. So i don't know if he gets another shot but if the talent is there you will get a job in the nfl and this is sort of the market will decide right. The market will decide. Yes he's worth it or no. He's not i tend to think he deserves a shot. But i don't know necessarily if he's who he used to be all right last one here. I'm pretty sure. I know how you guys are gonna answer it but i thought it was funny story so i'm gonna tell you anyway. An alabama man was in for quite a surprise after he bought a car off of a government auction site featuring vehicles taken during drug seizures. The police told the buyer that the car had been inspected and whatever was in it was now his property so the guy was shocked when he found a walmart bag with three hundred thousand dollars worth of drugs trunk. If you're in the situation would you just keep the drug. Swipe fletcher's life right now. I of course would not. I always return everything now. You have known you you say. Save you find a bag of money. You're you're not turning back in. Would you also apply that to drugs. If god no what am i going to do with a bag of drugs. I'm going to go straight to the police. what am i gonna. I'm not a drug dealer. It's not like i'm going to be dealing drugs out of the trunk of my car that you go right to the police station say here. I just found this thing. Take it. I don't know where it came from and let them investigate but no. I'm not keeping a bag of drugs. Well that's the exact answer that. I thought that you were going to give so. I just wanted to make sure you know sometimes the test. Wait a minute you you would think somebody would say yep keeping the bag of drugs need some some people that might be what he did. Say that anything in the car is mine. It's already been inspected. I don't know if people would keep them in do the drugs. I'm not saying you'd necessarily sell them. You know you never know somebody might just be like. Hey let's have a party inducing drugs. I dunno yup. Nope that's not me. That's not me. I do the legal stuff not the rest. I've got a question. Did you buy the powerball ticket for us. Or no i did. I bought a powerball ticket for each of you. It has the name on it on the back and no none of us one. It's now it's almost a billion dollars business billion to okay. I'll go buy another powerball ticket for each of us tomorrow. I went to the place down the street here. So yeah i'll buy and wednesday drawing isn't it. Yeah it's okay. I'm going to run down after the show. And i'll buy four tickets and i'll and i'll tweet out pictures. Sent you guys pictures of them. So you know i did it clean. Sounds good to me all right. Good yep somebody's gonna win a bunch of money. And i think whoever jorges said if he wins he is going to keep all the money and just reimburse me for the price of the ticket. That's right so nice play. Nice play a all right coming up next for your kyri spoke today and we've got some of that coming up for you and john. I'm going to do something. The george clooney has been doing for years. I'll explain what that is coming up. Mason ireland seven ten espn.

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