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Serving a Niche Audience  Marching Health

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Serving a Niche Audience Marching Health

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Is, combined his passions of Health and Performing Music, twenty sixteen he was the winner of the PS student business concept content contest. If you're graduating school, he began marching health and since pioneered a movement of health and wellness of marching bands, drum cores in the marching arts. Let us Joe. Welcome show. Elliott. Cleveland let's bring him in Er. We bring your own cheering wad. that. Flatter. Honestly in this world of like everything's like distance and working from home and stuff like that I literally, all just be sitting here on zoom call with just colleagues and I'll just be like anybody to pick me up. Hey, you guys are great. Do Yeah and even if. Get that. Yeah. It's even if it's fake, it's like still motivational. So I keep the crowd and crowd noise like really really close Welcome to the show. Let's Let's get the first questions out of the way I What are you drinking tonight? What do you? What do you got there straight from the Britta I like. Our normally have angry orchard, but I realized forgot to go grab it. So you know we're angry orchard is squeezed her sight or whatever. Do you know where that's from geographic from Walden New York where I'm sitting right now that that's that's your. That's your drank like that. That is my drake I'm gluten intolerance. I can't go with the normal beer selection but offers me a very good trump. I write down the road. So maybe next time if you're in the neck of the woods. I'll make sure we meet up there. I'm doing something from the newburgh brewing company a friend dropped off a couple of beers from the NEWBURGH I like to drink local. So let's get right down the street from angry orchard. First Round brought to you by owns recovery science single source repeated looking for certification and personalized blood flow restriction, rehabilitation training, and the equipment you need to apply it properly in clinical practice Johnny Owens in cow Kimbrel team over there they're just good at it. owns recovery science, DOT COM, and they have their new podcast on itunes called the owns recover science podcast I have no idea where they got that name from a brilliant Daniel is sipping on a daisy cutter. Pale. From Chicago Illinois and he's going marching athletes question mark exclamation point. So what's w superhero backstory Elliott like what's your background you know within within the profession and also out because you brought something out in? Yeah. Absolutely. When I was in high school I got into working out again fitness and I was simultaneously In love with drumline and as drumline captain in high school when a wet and drummer, I was working out. When I wouldn't do either of those two things. I would go study if I had to But after that I went to Clemson University and at the same things there that was pre physical therapy graduated with a biology degree. which was not yet my favorite thing ever actually hated biology I was a Spanish minor though I use that more than I use my biology degree it. I speak to just about all the Spanish Hispanic patients that come into the clinic. So. But I was the drumline captain at Clemson and taught several of the drum lines high school drum lines in the area while I was a college student and. Continued to learn more and more about the human body in movement and health and wellness during that time when I got into PT School. I took a year off from the drumming world because you get into that first year PD school in yet. Trying to survive, but Kinda had withdrawals from it. When I was in college, I did something more. The world class ranks on a drum line and drum corps that toured out. ATLANTA. We covered thirty states did thirty three shows during the summertime. And then I did another group that met on the weekends during college. So I was doing this literally all week every week, seven days a week, and after that first year, PD school said I gotta get going to get back into Augusta German again. So. I went to Wando High School where they actually have won the top ten marching bands in the country. It's in Charleston South. Carolina technically mount pleasant. Yeah. I just started volunteering it. I had a phone call with their director if they needed someone. To help out. There really really good. So they were really slow in the hiring process as far as making sure it was the right fit smart and yeah very smart move on their part. But we fit like a glove and in. person they were the right right band needed my skill set and taught drums for your just drums. And I loved every minute of it. I could have done that for the next few years had not moved and changed locations geographically but I ended up staying there for four years. I taught always PD school. That was the way that I made my money on the side in PT school hours not only doing. Their rigorous four days a week of practice including all day Saturdays and traveling, but also taking in eight to ten students a week. All Muslim students. During PT School. So my grades weren't the best though semesters. Yeah I get out and. Some professors have that helped me out along the away but I started talking to my professors in the process because you're one was looking around and I realize these kids are top ten in the country when I was at Clemson. When I was in upstate South Carolina we thought they were just God's gift to music because I was the only kid from high school a large hospital in South Carolina to make allstate. They drove three charter buses of Kids Hasley. So there's like one hundred, fifty kids in their total programs top to bottom and I get after these kids are like soft they couldn't handle the heat they would get hurt. They thought was hurt which was actually just. been working their muscles in ways they hadn't before because they weren't used to being in athletics are having physically demanding. Background. So between first and second year as drumline instructor, I started talking to staff in the band director. I said, Hey I'm going through PT School. I've got this health and wellness background. Let me bring a little bit of that too. This marching band that has already awesome. And he said Okay I'll give you an hour four days during a preseason just to start because we're in the south and things move slowly in the south and we try to go get all guns blazing. There's GonNa be a revolt here and it's GonNa get mixed. So we did that the first year and it started to change the culture quickly like these kids have had a desire already because they're already performed a high level. tasted. Something that they could. They felt like it was gonna make them better they they latched onto it. So the second year of that, which is my final European school they came to me the directors Athens said, we're GONNA start fifteen minutes early every rehearsal and I want you to take them fifteen minutes every time that you're here and do what you we started. That previous year just in smaller increments and get them in shape throughout the season and do some injury prevention measures so that we're not getting shin-splints in the sprains. The hamstring strains that we've been dealing with in having kids missed rehearsal and really lingered throughout year is there's no athletic trainer out there for them. Physical Therapist Forum they really on their own in hoping that apparent volunteer happens to have some medical experience and be able to give them some attention. So we created when I call the fifteen minute marching band workout, it's. A three day week rotation that worked on a different skill every day in slowly built that up throughout phases just like in your rehab phases in the clinic, we phase one face to face three phase four during their four months of the season, and by the end of the season I've got these really cool videos on our social media of the students actually in the wants to take over and lead the program. Smart Behavior, Change Yeah One of my biggest passions when I was coming up through high school and college was. I had a lot of awesome mentors for into me as a young person and change my path a little bit and teach me how to be a servant Linger and had actually influence people in a positive manner. So our big push with marching health is that yes, it's health wellness but fifty percent of it is actually student leadership development and investing in young people. Wow that is great. That is great story. I. Mean I love all this one and I mentioned in your intro you WanNa, ps contest as well for Idea contest and you brought it to fruition. Yeah. So my third year going into your three physical therapy school I'd seen this out there before the private practice section having a student business concept contest. And we had. During the summer, our business class this is really funny story My my classmates are GONNA laugh if they're listening to this. We get in groups of four and you had to come up with a business for physical therapy. And I was with three students who had four point knows that time. Hours Boddington in the class and needed to help bring me up maybe maybe the professor plan that help me out a little bit. So I pitched my idea to them and it got shut down. And we did their idea and ended up getting a B.. So they got one of their own their only bees. May, refuse to do mine. So I. started seeing some mentors business mentors in the community. One was my mother-in-law phenomenal physical therapists and physical therapy business owner, and then I got in touch with a couple of private practice owners and got one that was really. Bit, helping me out here just very good to me out. Sam. Is for those tuning in this is my Bernie doodles will dog shops it's always it's always welcomed. He's a therapy dog. So we took him through therapy dogs school. He was in the clinic with me full time for a little while first year practice. So, anyways. I got some good feedback and great help from them and presented what I call at the time musicians health that was the the business concept for this and. Goodwill ended up winning the contest and. The flew me out to Las Vegas gap me in with all the P tease out there I got on Jerry Carter's podcast as a student at. The top business owners at the time became a part of the Membership Development Committee actually as a student. So I saw the inner workings of it and had several assignments where I'd call business owners around the country as a student in. Gotha just have conversations with him about what their business model is how set up and Oh, they put me up on like the fifty second floor, the Wynn Hotel and casino my my bathroom at the wind was bigger than my studio apartment in Charleston as It is all. I was living the dream for about a week there at the private practice. conference. Party I'll tell you that if you're going to pick one section to go to the party. The prices knows how to structure a party. I'm not saying that the best Pori are I'm not I'm just saying they know how to throw the best party right so there's some crazy partners in different sections, but a private practice section knows how to organize a party That's a great story man Kudos. We'll give you some cheers on that. Kudos on the for I love the fact that. Your classmates were like now man we're not gonNA go. We're not gonNA go your direction and they they they grabbed a be and then you go and take that idea and you win the whole damn thing from the private practice section not long after that. I I love I love the juxtaposition rare. Talks about US though. That's cool story for your background but now I WANNA make sure we don't skip over the basics. The basics are super important I grew up in the northeast. You were relegated to do the marching band like my best friend was a saxophone player and he was like mandated to do band like I think in the northeast it's culture thing like it definitely wasn't the same thing as I saw when I did some prerequisite courses at Coastal Carolina University and you're talking about clemson and marching bands it was not a thing that people you. Know strove towards it was not it was nothing like I feel like it's on a different level in in the south maybe maybe other places too. But for people out there who maybe weren't experiencing in marching band marching health like give us the breakdown because like all my only experience right now as halftime at my high school football games and then the movie drumline and that's it. And that is most people's experienced. Both of those are really Difficult places to pull from in them, understand the actual challenges that the kids face out there in the students. So there was a study done in. This was done almost fifteen years ago this point. Where there's a bit called Drum Corps. That's basically the major leagues of marching band if you didn't know that that existed and. That activity starts in May, and goes through August. So predominantly takes college students in some high school students that are very talented and they moved do spring training for a month, which is nine am to nine PM rehearsals for a month every day every day, not not taking weekends off like you high school or college campus you live in the dorms, live on a gym floor and rehearse like that, and then after that, you go tour and you tour almost the entire country. So I said we went to thirty states over the course of the next sixty days. It's an intense travel schedule. And you sleep on the bus at night as you're traveling to the next place and you hope that you can often go into A. Basically, you're going to the school that you're out to practice at. You have to find a football field to be able to rehearse sleep in the gym floor that school it is not a glorious lifestyle by any means. So there's just thinking about that health aspects. There's so many things that we have to break down proper sleep properly. Proper, nutrition. have food trucks that go within there nonprofits, they have to feed hundred fifty miles of the members themselves who are running around with heavy equipment for twelve hours a day. So had you meet that caloric because those kids burn about four, thousand, five, thousand calories a day usually. That's just that side of it. We also have the skincare side of it is very important You have the as far as being in the sun. That many hours a day throughout the hottest three months of the year hydration is a huge component. Fatigue is one of the most important parts that were starting to learn about an dig into a little bit more in the activity. Making sure we take more time off and pace are actual rehearsals 'cause there's still some of the the old school mentality that has been there in most sports of come on. Let's do it. Again can't get water until we get this. Or whatever that may be for your sport. and. Then you have the component of being physically active. For that many hours that many days in a row causing overuse injuries were traumatic injuries were kid. Slips and falls or we've had a Seattle L. Tears we've had concussions. who have broken bones all of the above. There's a lot of props. A lot of people don't understand if they'd never actually seen drum corps show meaning there's Rance out there on the field literally one one, Drum Corps won the world championship a couple years ago had American Ninja Warrior Style Ramps And show is called downside up in a basically took everything you thought you knew and flipped it upside down while plaguing instrument, and you know having that perfect symmetry, their their formations on the field in their drill, and they would literally be playing their Solos with staggered Ninja. Warrior obstacle courses running up and down these ramps instep with each other hitting these crossing counts on a third of a second where everyone's legs were moving at the same time answering together. And then jumping down from those things. So. Yeah, it's like. It's more like Broadway or circus of lay. With music to musicians, doing that, it's not the typical. High School Band performance that you may have been expanded. Time ago now, there are some high schools that a lot of high schools actually that are starting to push towards that that standard. And that's really where we have been trying to fill the gap with as much free education as possible to these groups saying. Is, all over. Sorry I was trying to bring up the drumline in the background because I've got a picture this like what? What was the name of the school? Okay. All Search Blue Coats Right I. think that's what I got. Thousand Sixteen is that what? I think we're GONNA be able to bring that up in a second I've just got to see this and the funny groups who work with. The the Ad, the advertisement for her the the Youtube Channel is not something I would want to show some I'm trying not to have. but this this is crazy if this is the right thing that we're looking at looks like this is like a like a rehearsal or something like that but is. Indoors, this is warming up before show just getting their hands warm. Gotcha. So this is not gonna be the one with the Brampton whatnot. No, you could scroll down in the search. Gotcha. I would just type in blue. Coats Twenty sixteen show. Have to do this because I can't picture this. Blows my mind like 'cause. I'm just right here on top polls show multi Cam I'm guessing. Yeah. There's copyright to this, which is why the title it says her cake recipe what you mean Oh, is this a like someone? Partake recipe. It's not copyrighted material posted. Art So holy is that a is like a half pipe. That's one of them. All right. So I'm going to scroll through and four. So I'm my halftime show was a bunch of people, and if they walked in a line, we were pretty impressed in slamming. Those drums in the back just came down off that half. So all right ballpark like how much. Risk. There yeah they're gonNA come down that half pipe. That is dangerous. Yeah you. Learn how to flied in insect together. Wow. How much the drum way when you're walking with a snare drum like ballpark it for me 'cause they can't be light it depends on which when you have. So the quad drums and it also depends on the brand right back here one brand of quads, which is the four big drums and then usually one or two tiny drums on the inside of it. has about forty to forty, five pounds to it. The entire rehearsal day so. Things then you have things like Tubas and you've got bass drums, which I'm guessing I mean men sixty seventy pounds more. They're different sizes of you look at the baseline in the back. That's the big the small drums that you can see the circles on the screen. The bigger ones are in that same ballpark around forty to fifty the smaller not they're they're much lighter weight in the fifteen panel probably range and the snare drums are probably somewhere between ten to twenty as well. But I thought I was shown Those props in their right I was told like you know because I never box, right? So I was like, well, how hard could it be? I said those stupid words which I'll never say again, how could that be and then someone said just you know what? Just just Kinda just pretend you're jumping rope and hold your hands up for three or four minutes and by the minute. Half market like Oh God. So playing a trumpet imagine, it's pretty similar 'cause that's heavier than just your hands up right and you're doing this for your tummy twelve hours. So teasing the audience, no idea what marching health is at all but you're just picturing the fee and you're all you're doing is going through the physical demands. You're telling me about travel schedule lack asleep crappy nutrition. Heat in south in the South and South Carolina this is all. Yes it's absolutely a help care providers nightmare, and when you look at them running across the field like that, they can't just run. There's a technique to it and it gets certain muscle groups that you would normally expect athletes to be working to be extremely active like your Dorsey Fletcher's on religiously, and they have to have so much center control more than just the normal gator sprinting. Cycle winning have because they have to visually create the same lines on. Your eyes perception as everyone around them. The the motor control aspect is what a lot of people don't understand when they were moving at some of the speeds the therapist now. It was getting into hundred eighty beats a minute two, hundred, six minutes. There's staggered half I was talking about right. Oh. You kidding me and keep in mind. We don't have any audio on right now they're music like they're. Tired. Right. So in throwing flags and rifles, you know twenty feet in the air and doing dance choreographic visuals. Exploding you see the based on pushing backwards. They're that fast with forty pounds on him. that. That challenges the body in ways that few sports do it's almost the specificity of thinking of a baseball pitcher how specific their internal becomes to that shoulder. Is. Very similar to these marchers in their lower bodies upper bodies. So They rehearse typically nine am to noon take an hour lunch break come back three more hours of four more hours in the afternoon, taken our dinner break and do it for three or four hours in the evening. S A lot. Yeah and then on the show day you have one or two rehearsals in the morning and then travel when go to the show that night which. They're like, you saw there some big time domes like that's doesn't. lucasville stadium in Indianapolis They San Antonio performing that dome. Sometimes in York sometimes. I think I was in Minnesota on the football field. So been in the Georgia Dome many times. People out. Here. Yeah. There's a lot of physical demands that you don't think about. I didn't know. I. Didn't know because I wasn't experienced but the fact that you exist I was like, well, there's gotta be more to it and that's where I wanted to frame it up with our audience, which is physical therapist and you're speaking you're speaking two languages right? They're pretty fluently, which is what these people are doing musically or you know in terms of presentation or performance, but also these physical demands. I mean as Dale Saint Super Endurance Athletes, I mean that's you know nine hours, twelve hours of presentation doing this and Oh by the way they're playing with musical instruments which I could not do for ten seconds never mind twelve hours. So so I remember I tell you about an hour ago doing this interview tonight with a with a guy who does like marching band pt's like what how does that work and we get into this area of like in Flin thing I don't know if this could have existed. Fifteen years ago or ten fifteen years ago in terms of like the Internet, but like you I mean where you are in the south anyway, like is a thing. This is a full on passion as you've also displayed with what you were doing in terms of travel in the country in the Summers and sleeping on gym floors and just get it done because this is what you wanted to do But now you've you mentioned the PBS contest you on you flip this and this is your Gig, and this is your jam. So Fortunately, I hadn't quit my day job yet proud of the pandemic so. A. Lot of praying before that happens unfortunately I stick around didn't try to go fulltime yet but we. Are Obviously Take Kinda. Graduation Timelines the day after I graduated, I had written a blog. You'll want to start this. And I said you know thirty people read my blog off feel great about and posted and it reached seventy five thousand people. Wow. You say. It was called to muscles every marching percussion needs. And when you look at what we're talking about those guys with girls would drums on that are that heavy. It was kind of mind blowing to a lot of them that they'd never heard of multidose. and. Some of these physical therapy. Jargon, that we we throw out there and how to strengthen those muscles so that when you do strap up and put those drums on your body's ready for that. So. I posted that blog in that one went viral and I said, okay, I got to do something to follow that up. I created a website on my own garbage had a social media that was pretty abysmal as well, and I was just super stoked about it though. I created a second blog and Cash remember the title was for that one, but it reached forty or fifty thousand people. And so I said, okay, we're knocking on the door angler. So. We've gotTA start serving these people in a much bigger way than thought. And like I said about the PBS concept contests, I'd called it musicians health. Fortunately. One of the kids that I was teaching privately. So this goes back to that me teaching eight to ten kids on. Weeknights when I should have been studying in PT School. One of them had a dad who was a lawyer. And this guy had started a law firm that only defends cyclists. Any did about fifteen or twenty years ago called bike law if any of your cyclist and you WanNa make sure you're protected Goto them he texted me. And he said I needed to take you out to lunch because. I don't think you know what you're doing. I said, okay. Let's meet. So win over to place downtown Charleston where all the great food in life is it was two houses from two places from his house and. So we sat down and he said look you gotTa stop was the goal of this because mango at that time was like Tila health component women at treat traveling rockstars on the road can thing in the marching band component was just going to be the marketing to the local community. And then I would be a specialist for all the musicians in the area because Charleston is a very musical area. There's orchestra musicians that come in and play their schools of music. He said ended now. Paid. Floyd does not want Elliott. Cleveland and his Polo showing up on their tour bus. They want like a yoga instructor somebody more holistic treatment. You need to go tar it the people you represent the best in the people that you are. So what you need to figure out what that looks like, and you need to figure out what their internal struggles are, what their challenges at home more you-know-what TV shows they're watching on Netflix unique to be able to. Literally, draw out this person that you WANNA serve. because. That's what you're talking about like at the end of the day where physical therapists we love serving people and delivering our skillset to them because they need it. So I could tell you my ideal person to T-. What they deal with every single day with their day to day schedule is what they feel in their bodies when they are done with rehearsal also in rehearsal starks during that entire rehearsal span. What happens after rehearsal when need to go home and they have to eat study shower and cram all this in because the marching band scheduled it's really five days a week. And then figure out how you deliver content to them in the most accessible way. Possible. That is on the terminology of an Eighth Grade Trumpet Player. So my crunch pt school was the fact that I I could not. Take some of these massive words and really complicated. Science Components and talk about men fluently or in-depth in that same terminology. But my superpower essay now is the fact that I can talk about those things on third grade level, and that is what helps me reach the eighth grade trumpet player or the Seventh Grade percussionist this just learning how to hold drumsticks and now about to throw a drum on his back or he's about to go stand out in the heat. For twelve hours that next day or the junior high school color guard person. WHO has knee issues because nobody told him running around jumping and throwing a flag at the same time without having proper landing skills or proper lower body strength is gonNA. Cost the problems. and to give you a boom Shaka lock on that I, mean you're literally just merging all the world's I live in two, which is like listen like your audience talks talk like your audience listen. You know that lawyer. got. Sacha. Dow is like listen you're aiming at the wrong market like aim at the people that you speak their language you told me it had a Spanish minor, right? Aiming people that language that you speak whether it Spanish or marching health like don't be in at someone that doesn't you're gonNA walk in and like you said. You don't make sense here, but you make perfect sense on a field with the marching band and a bunch of those athletes, and they will notice that like that a rock band if you were to walk in would be like I. Don't know who this guy is he no, he didn't know me and we had an we talked about this before we hit record tonight We had an episode about like identifying your audience was Craig Pfeifer and Sean Baggy talking about like your Avatar right so you're trying to drop his Avatar of like these rock bands, your telehealth with. But. You probably couldn't do that as well as you could exactly to the moment to the second to the calorie to the exercise of marching athlete, and that's the direction you should go and so Kudos for that guy for kind of like you need to launch because you're screwing up. You for listening and paying attention to what he was saying and how he was doing it so. Brilliant And he had access face all the time now. Is One of my biggest mentors in business. Good friends. Now, I'm great friends with his son. Fortunate to be able to influence the next generation as well. All right. So what's in the future you? Cope it's putting weird spin on everything right but I mean is this is this going to be your full-time Gig in the future because I mean when you write a blog post and gets to seventy five thousand views, I don't care when you WanNa pooh-poohed that. You'll write something and see if you can get seventy five. US. Never mind seventy, five, thousand, right. This podcast has been the on the on the air for almost five years we broke one hundred, thousand downloads in one month last month that took five year average like you're an overnight success, I'm like. Well, that's five years overnights. So where's this going for you? I am terribly interested. That's a great question. I don't know the answer to that. At the moment I've got some plans the back of my mind for where I wanted to go. The. So after I graduated than Rosa's blogs. I still didn't even after sitting down with him didn't necessarily know where it was gonna go. But into has become more of me and my team doing clinics for high schools and colleges, and taking them for about how to be a half a day pretty much and teaching them step by step what the season has to look like. So it's not me on the sidelines doing physical therapy. That's not really we're. Not Scalable and it's Not something they have money for these are banned boosters. These are nonprofit organizations as well. And you don't have as many injuries have injuries to fill the full day just like in a PT client, you market to the football teams in the soccer teams, but they aren't filling your entire day as early for the average clinic but I think it's something in a. This I will tell you this calendar year. Our goal was to do one hundred clinics and May. June July August one hundred. One hundred clinics out. That's a lot. How many people on your team. So, this is this is a fun. Story I. Did you're practicing physical therapy. In Charleston and became a clinic director about six months in. A largely due to the marketing skills that I developed along the way and then I realized I, WanNa get further specialized. NEEDED TO GO TO RESIDENCY And again into this phenomenon residency with. That was in Greenville South Carolina area where they have a sports in orthopedic residency that are interwoven and. There was a gap between. That start date what I really wanted to end the current clinic an asset I'm just GonNa Start to see where it goes. So I went and toured for a month and when all over the country Texas New York doing these half day clinics groups. And a gap to residency, which is now in the upstate of South Carolina and I'm still getting to work with Clinton's marching band because I have very strong ties to then still and teaching their drumline and one of my good nail friends. But at that time, it was almost like a previous student little brother to me was the drumline captain he's premed. So look man, why don't you intern would be start reading some blogs for me I'm about to go into residency when I'm in residency, it's GonNa go through the next summer. The next wave of people are gonNA. Be asking you to do this. I want to train you over the next year to go do this for me. In. The Color Guard captain as well hopped on that because she wanted to occupational therapy school. The that summer. We had between May or really between April and August fifty clinics that they went out and did it across the country straight Outta Outta College I was able to play pay them way more than they would have made working. A job you know like a rehab tech position or something like that read not yet in school and they got a lot of hands on experience a lot of public health education, nomination, communication, motivation, understanding of different societal norms in socioeconomic status is of different schools and really when you get in anyone who's out there has been in public education knows what you see when he wants, you actually get into the schools in that really has helped them out professionally in one of them is still on with me to this day. He's at this point he's done probably seventy five clinics for me. But we were planning on doing one hundred this summer across the country. So we spend. Last year from Long Island to Houston to San Diego and everywhere in between. So God's goodies. Give me this vision and goal in step away from it. If it's time to put on hold I'm okay with APP. But I'm enjoying wallet lasts and having a lot of fun being able to help people that I know need it and. That I also identify with personally. That's. Right, you could take the marching athlete out of that and put any other human being and it's the same thing. But you are focusing you're doubling down your niching down which again doesn't any sense until it does and it makes perfect sense. I gave a talk last week at the University of Lynchburg and buy at the universe Lynchburg I mean I was. In my bedroom and they were in their bedrooms wherever they were watching and I literally just said like this podcast came about because I connect dots which made no sense whatsoever, right? No offense man. But marching athletes and physical therapy makes more sense than radio DJ physical therapy but it really is just saying how do I bring my skills and my passion? Because your skills in your passion, they come with you whether you want with you you don't have to pack them. They're just they're always with you and you think they're super basic and they don't make any sense until you're like Oh does know when we were learning subjective exam in PT School I was little like everyone was kind of nervous in like What do I asked next and I'm like it doesn't matter what you ask. NASL. Get Listen I. You. The first question is what's up, tell me about you and like what's next I go I. Don't know. Did you listen to the first the answer yet like we'll know but how do I know what to an snacks you don't you have to listen But. That was the super basic thing was that's what I did for fifteen years but you being able to know exactly what a marching athlete is thinking doing an experiencing because you did it lived at experienced it, but you also love it and now you get to bring this other dot into it, which is this physical therapy aspect like, hey, all those things that could go wrong. You're talking the talk so they're able to listen to go. He knows what he's talking about with marching. And he sounds I don't know what the hell this words are at the helmet. LEGIT I. Just Google. That's the thing. And that's exactly why people are going to gravitate shortage because you like hey, if you can solve my problem, I will give you the most valuable thing in the world, which is my time. So that first year when I was teaching drumline, the band director, his wife is a devout Catholic and she'd given in this little quote that sat on his wall and I don't remember the exact quote it was something like. Young guys not looking for the perfect person with perfect skillset. He's looking for you with what you have as kept seeing that every time I walked in his office that whole first year and then by the end of the years when it dawned on me like this is the skill set that I have that I can bring to these people and it was a large school there two hundred kids in band. So how can I influence those kids in a positive way? Just offer what I have like I said I was not a great pt student but I knew enough to be able to help them at the time and get them to the next step. and. That's why I went on into the residency second. Learn keep developing craft but yeah. It's. It's about being willing to serve being willing to step out and take action, and that is where a lot of people phrase they aren't willing to be vulnerable. This is actually started coaching some PT's on this recently and. When you do step out into that vulnerability and just say, Hey, this is this is who I am in. This is what I would have gotten what I WANNA. Do that. People take notice they start to. Say That okay I can I can get on board. What you're doing here. That's where you can make a difference big time. Yeah. I I was in a meeting just yesterday where. I. Wasn't actually sure why was in the meeting for my day job and I was like. We were going around the room introducing ourselves on come Jimmy. I'm not exactly sure how fit into the equation, but I will guarantee you I'll bring you much enthusiasm and I will give you everything I've got an honestly like when you're when you're putting a team together right I mean I talked about this with radio stations but this is a sports team. It's like you can have some really talented individuals but if they're not going to try their hardest care, it's coming man that's wasted. Talent riotous heartbeats town town doesn't work hard. I'd rather have an entire team of people who are like, Hey, man I'm not the best, but I will give you. I will work my ass off giving thing I got. I I'm like you know what I'll take every one of them and all you talented guys related you guys can stay home because I'm going to beat you I'm going to be nine times out of ten with that attitude. So as great that you're doing all that. Wow, this is I mean. The fact that always things are lining up, this is this you are. You are proof of concept of conversation. We just had last week, which was a girl who jumped on the show randomly and said I WANNA do essentially she's the Elliott Cleveland of she's I want to do this for gymnastics but I don't know if that if that job exists and I don't know maybe I need five three or four five years experience before I get that and I'm like, why why is this fear or resist you don't you honestly don't think of what you have. Is Valuable and she's like well I'm just a second year student I go I'm not telling you to do it now get your education when you graduate do it. She's like I don't know, and I'm like this is psychology has nothing to do with anatomy and physiology or by this is psychology and we'll talk for three minutes by the end. All of her classmates were on the comments chiming in going, you can do it one hundred percent shoes she started to. She was the she was neo from the matrix she starting to believe like she's the one. That's what you need to instill yourself as you're the one right and then this is this is really important. So the next step when you feel like you're ready to take action is do it for free. there. Are So many people coming out especially young people saying look at deserve this observed to make this money I have this skill said. Compensated in this way That that whole first trial period the first two, three years I was doing that for that school without asking for anything else without asking for any extra money showed up fifteen minutes early to figure it out in three years of me riding was going to be but then same thing that you see the reason we're having this conversation because I do it for free on social media two to three times a day a post that much on our pages because if you put it behind a paywall. And you've got the secret they need in the thing that's GonNa help transform somebody's life. But it's behind paywall. They're not GONNA pay for it until you've shown them value across say really need your services. The. I mean the parallels between physical therapy in marching and you're talking about and radio. I interned for some really really small radio stations I in turn for some really big ones. Stern, was and I did it all for in fact you're not even doing it for free. You're paying I mean I had to pay for the train pay for lunch and not and not work like I could be working, make them but I'm here carrying boxes and handing out your t shirts for free. Did it pay off? Yeah because when you're be so good, they can't ignore you is what Steve Martin said and you do it for a while for free and also go hey man I gotta move on that we can't we can't lose you well. How do you expect me to do that? We we gotta keep you around but the entire time you've just putting stuff in your bank going I'm getting better getting better and getting better there to say you're so good I can't ignore you. Absolutely. Love it. Again I start my brother and our go and he's not in in health care at and he's like I. He was like Zucchini Sense and I looked game two cents is about like wool does I have no idea what a marching athlete goes through I'm a physical therapist I could figure it out but not like you you're speaking their language and then you know Kate McGee in the eastport athletes she treats east sports athletes and you're like East sports. What is that? That's right. You don't know what that is but to east sports athletes, that's the world marking athletes that's their world gymnasts that's their world. You can talk to him in their language and solve their problems because you understand them intimately, they will beat a path to your door right absolutely, and that increases your value to them just from from a business perspective. People who are are thinking about, how do I how to actually make money doing that and you're bringing in that be word and bring that money that dirty word but it's not because you're I if you're going to solve my problem like here, take my your take the cash. And that's where the thing is. You're not selling them. You're not not flimflam and that's why I love physical therapy is like the thing that we do is a good product. Me On it. If you don't think it's good. Then don't come back I'm sorry that I thought I failed you not therapy I probably failed you along the way but making a business on something you're passionate about I. Want a there's a lot of people out there doing this to let's beat that stigma to warmth and say, no, no being able to do that like how great would it be if you're like, I'm waking up today what are you doing just stuff? I, love until the sun sets. Nobody else man the during the time that I toured that one month between job in residency I was on planes I was sleeping very few hours our skipping meals because I'm trying to catch the next flight and a gift there you go through four our clinic hanging out with people afterwards and get to know their issues and their problems where they're going away and do it all over again I mean physically that's exhausting. had. So much joy in that. It was not something that was limiting me at all. And that's really where you're blessed to be. If you can do the thing you love and find a way to make some money to be able to provide for yourself and your family in the process. People ask me to do stuff like now for free like can you help me launch podcast for free I'm like I like cornflakes and rent, and they're like I'm like, what do you mean I don't need to pay all the rent or all the cornflakes your you obviously called me. It's like that scene from Armageddon right where Bruce Willis, like I assume you sent for me because someone told you I was the best cycle. I'm the best solve your problem. You put someone on asteroid blow something out I'm your guide dig more and. and. That's the thing you shouldn't be shy about that, and then the next step from there is when you got your your ideal audience and then when you've got your means of delivery yet make sure you're showing up where they are. Yes. There's a reason you chill up in certain places audience listens listening where you put yourself is not where I always put my content because I'm to get into or get on the screen of a kid who somewhere between thirteen and twenty one and help been the chief health in their lives, and then from there, I'm also trying to get the post professional band directors who are sitting there on facebook and some of the. Platforms that tend to trend older and regroups. While this is something, you'd probably find fascinating we've done something called the band directors for better health group. I did not start this facebook group actually band director forty, five minutes down the road did. Health is a major problem for the directors the the person at the top because they are working about seventy hours a week. Understand that they're not just a normal I shouldn't even say normal they're not working that typical schedule say a teacher might work. They don't get to take care of themselves because they're giving to their students. So Ryan there on the field of their at least their practice, all those crazy hours as you're talking about right and hoping that somebody brings fast food in between so that they rule and so. This guy started this page band richards for better health that was just going to be a support group for other band directors and basically post meal preps. So he is director would meal prep each week and try to teach other directors had to do the same solve my problem it built up to like seven hundred people in the first month and that was less than a year ago. Now, it's in two thousand. When we started the Kobe pandemic and all the schools shutdown. I had been in this group for about eight months in been posting free content in their teaching directors skills, and also translating some of the things we do for students into that group. They got together and said, Hey, we really WANNA do five K. And it was like, Hey, let's run a five k right away. That was kind of mentality and I'm as a PD. Pump, the brakes please. So I took our workout systems, turn it into a six week podium to five K in their language podium, get them off the podium to be able to run a five k after six weeks of training. After what really was you know ten to twenty years of career you are able to train. So starting from that most sedentary level to get them there. And we did it once I. Did it totally for free? There is no charge to do the actual race itself. It's ridiculous to me to charge someone to do a race in their own neighborhood. It is a little weird virtual race will shortly a really great shirt a pint glass but I'm really just buying the shirt in the pint glass, but I agree with you, right So we did it for free round one and almost fifty directors from around the country. Did it. And that was like marched midway. And then we said this is gaining traction because I told all them post sweaty selfie after their workouts after their run on their personal pages and by the next. Cycle, which was two weeks. Later, we had two, hundred, seventeen directors register we started that, and then all we did was a simple shirt sale. Like accustomed fundraiser because I'm not in the murky business, I'm not going to pretend to be in the merged business. Let the Merch people do that stuff? Some people may criticize me for under say you can do it yourself or do it some other way I'm a fulltime practicing physical therapist. Dad. Dog. Dad Husband off running a business on the side. But we did that they loved it up. We're starting just starting challenge with them. Now they are getting into someone doing in person bank camps go ahead and counter steps up. Are there being aware of your health so that what the habits developed in their habits that we've developed over the past few weeks with these two five k launches you can actually transition back into your school year with those habits in a way that's Chiba able. You're you're in their head I mean you've painted. You've created that avatars. We talked about last episode with with Craig Pfeifer step into your audience's mind you know, why do I need do episodes at five, six, seven o'clock at night because people are in clinic all day I'm not doing these live. You know six, seven, eight o'clock at night by accident because the people that I'm trying to talk to their somewhere else. But also, why do I make my episodes? On demand, you're thinking from their shoes, what do you want to accomplish and if I can help you get there I'll do that. Right and businesswise band director is the person that makes the decision at the end of the day to hire me as a clinician for their school. So that's not my intent I'm happy with the emails in the messages we received the said I will have lost him pounds this summer after not being able to lose any of the previous ten years. Out That's where I get my satisfaction, and then if they say by the way I'd love to have you worked with my students than that's all more rewarding. Go you got it. We got to have you back man I just like your mindset and your soul, and you're just you're thinking exactly. You're thinking exactly like your audience thinks you know listen like talk talk like they listened but you're thinking like they'd think which is probably the next level. We gotta get that on a t shirt but then I'm a teacher I'm talking to my instant. There's been like heavy breathing in the phone Sam as. The entire time. Out. The Door I. can hear him polydor crack too. But Three questions you ready for three questions. Still let's to three questions from our friends at. All. Right. Three questions. Our friends at medical staffing. That's a U. R. E. US MEDICAL DOT COM. That's the hand on. The Hyper Hashtag? Travel PT. If you're looking for a position somewhere in the fifty United States plus DC I got yelled at for Notts including DC, they do have DC as well. All settings you're graduating if you're taking the N. p. t. e. today actually I saw a lot of people on social media. Good luck when you graduate and you got that license, let feel free to let it move you about the country that PT license. You tell it where to go. So Arias, the positions fifty states, Andy See all settings don't just think outpatient orthopedics. They've got all settings whatever whatever you'd like to do. They've got a you are US medical dot com first question on three questions is. A where question you're in South Carolina. But if you I mean you've traveled a lot if you go anywhere for three months and do whatever you want to do, where would you be going? I'm going to the Caribbean, some of the keys Allen Morada? which bum so whenever? Residency yes. We had a child closer to family. I've told them if I ever make it big, we're all getting a big place the other on the beach and HBO. Second. Question is a what question what something that you've read watched your downloaded or whatever listen to anything book podcast movie that you think the audience would value out. WHO I so I have a conversation with my mom she was mine. Gifted and talented teacher in elementary school. Their fourth grade she thinks they'd missed on diagnosing dyslexia that age because I'm such a bad reader. But I have started getting into reading as a business owner profit. I is a great book. That taught me more of the mindset of the finance side The twenty two immutable laws of Marketing I. got that one on the shelf. Yup. Fantastic and then what I'm digging into right now is a book by a Family Pastor are sorry family counselor is called differently lead differently. And the big premises. Great leaders don't change the wrong thing. So there's a lot of people right now who in their business are. Whatever that is due to because we are going through so much as a society, they're changing the wrong thing in their business in that's going to yield the wrong results whether that's it in the service level or magnify throughout the book several different levels of depth within your business whatever that is you gotTa make sure your change in the right thing and drank Alec mindset books have you read building story? Brand? You dig it like everything that you just mentioned everything. You just talked about like you're actually speaking this. Guy Donald Miller's language, and so you read that halfway through Oh man, you're putting words to the things that I'm doing building story Brent and it's one of those books that you read in like a day like it just it sucks you an easy rider lightning quick reads. It's like one of these books, but it's for. Pound for pound word for word building story brand for therapist or business owner doesn't matter because even if your therapist had someone else's clinic, you're a brand That's a good one that I always recommend. Last question three questions is a who question who is someone the audience should know more about. In life like in I leave it open ended on purpose who is someone? The audience should know more about. There's a guy I've been listening to a lot right now. I rising agree with this because he takes stances on certain things his name is Thomas Sowell. IS A. Nine year old black economist that has seen US economy for. Almost right. So he's got some very wise. Sayings thoughts in listen to those have been listening to those also like I try to listen to things on both sides of the political spectrum and. Try To. Take. All sides of. Arguments and discussions figure out exactly make a decision for yourself. Who Pat Right so novel. Enough of so maybe we should talk about that for a minute. There's there's a lot of people that just click that re tweeted that share button without actually doing some research on it. Yeah. I there was a thing done by I. Think it was the Washington Post where they literally had an article posted and they said in the in the article they said this is a test do not share this article and the article got shared. You know eighty thousand times or something like that was like okay. So most people share without reading in fact, they just share blindly That is three questions. Let's do the parting shot parting shot with with Elliot right here. Michelle I like this bar I can't wait for your party show. Burn. Party brought you by our friends at the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapy Orthopedics Dot Org running a contest right now if you've been on our social media accounts at PT Punk, ass giving you you if you're the winner access to any of their courses. Last. Time we did this. 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How to talk to patients about sex in a professional way with Krystyna Holland

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How to talk to patients about sex in a professional way with Krystyna Holland

"In working with the clients whether that's talking about faster working with its non binary clients transgender clients anyone on the LGBTQ. I sect or anyone the next someone. Who's just like you totally doable? You can do it. It takes a little bit more brain power. But it's totally within your wheelhouse and there are lots of people out there putting myself for that. Getting down to it with Pelvic Floor Physical Therapists Christina Holland Christina. Just really really open and honest but very confident and combing. I'd say on on Social Media about how she discusses the individual she gets to treat in her pelvic floor. Physical therapy practice. We bring her on the show to talk about the things that a lot of people typically shy away from talking about. That's kind of how to take the awkwardness out of it. Just get it out there but do it with confidence. Christina walks us through her story and give some great tactical tips on how to do just. Is that episode is brought to you by Owens recovery science there single source for looking for personalized blood flow restriction rehabilitation training in the equipment. You need to apply it properly in practice. The research certification tools find out more. Just take a look at Owens recovery science dot com or if you're really into F. R.. Take a listen. Listen to a recent episode with Johnny Owens or his podcast on itunes or wherever great podcasts or hurt the best conversations happen at happy hour. Welcome welcome to our four. This is the P. T. typecast here's your host physical therapists. Jimmy Mackay Still Not used to calling twenty twenty but yeah one of our first episodes here in the first month of twenty twenty. I welcome back to the show as always thank you. Thank you thank you for listening. Obviously and show is free the best thing we always he's like to say is if you'd like to pay it forward. Tele friend is an episode Particularly enlightening inspiring tele friend and make sure they subscribe. That's that's the best thing and you can do for us like today's if you're listening to it Owner and physical therapists at inclusive care and staff physical therapist. At Denver health part of integrated PELVIC HEALTH TEAM IN AND POST OP. Vaginal Plassey team is Kristina Holland Christina. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me before. We hit the INTRO. Same in your on the show because you pretty much talk about anything and everything and I love people who really open about stuff. But you're opening up your open about stuff that people are usually closed off about in terms of pelvic floor. So that's what we're on Shohei. Thanks for coming on here and talk them with us. What's your what's your brief Superhero backstory? Where'd you go to school? And how'd you get into like toby floor. How'd you find your way to work with those types of people so I went to school in Atlanta? Georgia I went through the state and I graduated in May of twenty eighteen with a hundred and fifty percent positive before I went to. PT School. That I was gonNA work in pediatrics. I was in school for six months and was like oh no I'm not. I'm not gonNA work in pediatrics. So I kinda SORTA version of the story is that I wanted to teach an undergraduate and physiology class got a switch and sites end and I reach out to a bunch of people realize that I might be teaching eighteen year. Old Georgia The words the Lopion to for the first time time and that seems really scary to me so it was kind of felt heavy so I did a lot of research talk to a lot of people. I ended up reaching out to hugh researcher. I have no idea who was at the time I did it. Based off as a recommendation from an old advisor and it turns out this researchers researcher that found out when you hear that the birth control pill is ninety percent effective. He's a researcher. That did that study and all settings after that about all different types of contraception. Yeah it was crazy. I had no idea what I was doing so he asked me if I wanted wanted to send me my his book with just kept saying I just said over and over again and he was like. Oh you're in Atlanta. I'm there to conference next week. Would you like Compu- in and I said yeah sure that sounds great. So the at the conference someone was talking about. We'll be discrepancy and women and whether or not actually like a logical issue or psychological psychological issue or an issue with the reproductive at all or is it could be because someone has trigger points. And they're not gonNA give blood flow and and painful and I never heard of that before and so that was the beginning and I just haven't stopped since I'd like that. Yeah I mean I just everything you just said there number one first and foremost than stuck with me as a lot of people go go into. PT School thinking. They're going to go one way. I'm not sure you'd find a further change though pediatrics to pelvic floor tubes that that that's a that's a pretty big change I I mean they're kind of connected right like do come from public for Andrew Lloyd closer than I thought he'd you know I do not personally specialize if you have to call the floor but totally thing and I work babies all or I see babies all the time because I see a lot of moms who bring their base in so it's a et for me. Yeah I guess like the world right as soon as you get as far away from something as you can. The next step is just getting closer to it right. So I guess pelvic floor and pediatrics eventually eventually gonNA come together. But they were thinking about your backstory which I liked is you found something in you kept saying yes and because you're interested in and I kind of like that that that's a really interesting way to get there and happy with the decision. You can be honest. We're just on a podcast. A few thousand people listened to each week but with your decision so far what oh so happy with it so when I first got out of school I was really really hesitant to pigeon hole myself inside only doing pelvic so I wanted I really wanted like a fifty fifty fifty or like some type of Ortho public mix And I worked in that type of job for a while and realize like actually. I just didn't care much about shoulders as I cared about talking to people about leaking Dan painful facts and prolapse and all those sorts of things so like I was happy to see people who had shoulder pain but I got up in the morning. The people who I gotTa talk about. It's like really intimate. Ah Did you feel guilty. I'm asking this question from from a personal understanding of what that was like. Did you feel guilty when you recognize that you wanted to be working with these these people and not that you didn't WanNa be working with individuals with shoulder issue but you wanted to be working within a different type of person more. Did you feel guilty at all. You now no not really. I think some of it was the studying I was in so I was in when I was making that decision. I was working as an independent contractor in like a cash. Pay Or nick And it was primarily. We've got a lot of athletes and so people were going to get good care. I wasn't worried about. I wasn't worried about people getting good care that made it really helpful. And I didn't and the reason I ask is because I've heard that before when people say like I just wasn't inspired to work with insert. Different patient the patient population here runners. I just wasn't inspired with runners. There wasn't inspired to work with a Olympic lifters anymore. And I really wanted to work with this. I hear a lot of people sometimes hesitate not because they're like. I have this guilt and I wanted to hear that from you. So if someone out there listening maybe experiencing that they can take a jump and say well. Maybe I shouldn't feel feel guilty about that almost like you were giving them permission a little bit. Oh Yeah I mean. I'm down to get permission but I really believe that. If you let yourself gravitate to the people you are grabbing to. You're you're gonNA have a bigger impact as opposed shooting yourself into something like that Arnold. So let's stuff we brought you here for all right. Let's get down on the pelvic floor. First of all I WANNA make sure people can and follow us on twitter tyrannosaurus rex. That's the story. That's why it's the end of your name Christina. Ty Na source. Rex and our instagram Christine Dot Holland and that's K. R. Y. S. T. Y. N. A. Dot Holland on Instagram. Because you share a lot of good information that's really what made me gravitate towards towards you is talking about the pelvic floor. Should be more about just decreasing pain. That's one thing that resonated with me a lot of the messages you were sharing. Yeah search so the cool thing is is policies about therapy is getting. It's getting some time and thought late which I'm a huge thing us for obvious reasons But part of Jimmy and the public floor in the first place and and I think part of why I don't feel guilty to to seek your earlier. Question is that so few people are treating public for talking about public for that that. There's such a need that I feel. I feel like that need is important and so I didn't. I didn't mind giving up shoulders for that. But a lot of people now are talking about primarily in terms arm of postpartum treatment and particularly postpartum to send a women's and new mom which is awesome and mom's historically under-treated and not all all their needs neither met so I love that but I'm looking at it kind of from an even farther bigger for people. I like that. You seem very very confident about that. And a lot of things that you share online. I don't know I mean the confidence. Just kinda comes through in in how you're talking about it and that's what I was talked taught in terms of you know when I was in school for journalism an PT. which is? I don't only the fake it till you make it but be confident you you as the healthcare practitioner of the one that could make it awkward if if you make it. Awkward situation is going to be awkward. So so how to talk to patients about sex in a professional way the way you speak on social media and again. That's that's not like what we're doing now on a conversation but it comes across that you do care yourself in a professional way. How'd you get to that level of comfort to being able to do that? And how would you. How would you suggest other people can can there as well? Yeah I think I'd question so I guess it really kind of started a long time ago. I wrote a second relationship column and College George and I didn't. I didn't go out seeking to write that column. I was talking with some girlfriends in my dorm and a friend of mine was like hey where she worked for the newspaper at the time it was like. Hey we're looking for a new columnists it seems like you say Would you be interested and I was like. I don't know about all that. Like what business do I have right. You call them like that and and I went over winter break and I was like I wonder if I do have anything to say and I sat down and you know it just sucks it out five calls and I was like Oh like I have to say about that and so that was kind of the beginning ginning and then I have been a patient and so I know exactly how awkward it can be and so trying to avoid the things that made me feel. Awkward is really helpful and I'm just also not really really an offer person. In general I figure what source that could happen. Yeah so probably secret superpower things that make other people just like horrifically uncomfortable are completely unfazed by Except for things that other people find totally fine like television. I'm totally mortified. Bye Bye like the office kind of television humor. I can't hang so I can talk about the Dinas on the Internet all day long but I can't the office. Wow Wow that is you have to give up something to get the super power. I guess giving is what you had to give. Give ask to give my tonight what I liked about. Allow while your message now now. I'm starting to come full circle here. How you got so comfortable so writing? A column really was an experience to say what you wanted to say in a safe environment. I mean that's the cool part about writing right. You get to be thoughtful and think about it and then push it out to the world and I'm I'm sure on a college campus. People knew who you were. But that's a that's a great beginning adding to it. But what I like about what you talk about. And you mentioned pelvic floor now. Getting in the spotlight is that you don't stop at reducing pain you go. Oh through in terms of let's go back to your shoulder example. Great you've got an individual now who doesn't have shoulder pain but they want to be able to throw or swim or or reach up on the top of the refrigerator. That's a normal progression as a physical therapist but for some reason myself included. I think a lot of times people think will as soon as you're done with reducing using pain in the pelvic floor you work there is done and a lot of the messaging that I see that you put out his will know that area is that area can can inhibit a lot of other the things that the individual wants to participate in one hundred percent seconds. Adl Right and it's a an evolutionary benefits and so a lot a lot of people are going to be wired to want to participate in that and that can look like a lot of different things. And so I'm here to help you just like any other physical therapist any other Ortho. PT The any acute food. I'm I'm here to help you get back to the thing that you really WanNa do. Whatever that is just the way you're seeing it right there? I mean literally just the way you're saying it I can see where it would make. Someone say I could see their shoulders drop like oh I can talk to this person. I can talk about this because this is probably definitely something they're thinking about and they're in front of someone who can help them do that and you're giving them the opportunity. which is huge and that that does I think take a certain level skill and practice like I didn't? I didn't necessarily come out knowing how the least they for all of that. So that definitely took some introspection on my part and also I've done trainings. And things like that to get better at leaving instead of rushing to talk over people or to assume something about what they wanna be able to do with their bodies or due even something as seemingly innocent as their gender or sexuality. Leaving Safer People that during I love the phrase the the the two word phrase you said. They're leaving space. Sometimes we have to be taught to leave space. Tabula person process will we just said and then respond to us we. We know that and we're talking off that with individuals with cognitive issues right. We know that sometimes you need to wait up to ninety seconds which can feel like an attorney but that's what that person needs but even with individuals if it's something personal or something difficult difficult to talk about love how you said that leaving space. Yeah totally great So you brought up gender a little bit. Providing affirming care tips ideas ideas for treating individuals transgender INTERSEX and gender non binary clients. These are words that are coming up a lot now. That's great but myself included in probably a majority of the audience know a little but not a lot about individuals like that. How do you how do you? How do you explain the suit to other healthcare practitioners other people people what to do with individuals like that so when I worked at Denver Health and working as part of a post op team so that is people who are transgender transgender women who have undergone bottom surgery And have had and Yoga China Construction and so they are just the most inpatient because they have their and finally living in a body. That feels much more like themselves. So transgender individuals were identified a certain gender at birth so which was based solely on the fact that a doctor you know delivered the baby looked at their genitals and said boy or girl all based on so that would be transcended so those that that person may have been identified mail at first but always kind of felt like. I don't really feel like this. This societal standard of a male. I feel more like a woman I identify as a woman. Not just like I feel like dressing like wound but in my bones. I wake up every morning and I'm surprised to see someone in the mirror that doesn't have the Doug have special hair that does have a wider job and so that can set up like really hard experiences but I ended the draw so that'd be transgender. Intersex is someone who I probably had something about their genitals that was very into so maybe they have testes but they also have a Volvo right back almost like a whole bunch of different things they were born that way. And there's a whole push now for allowing intersex people to grow up Intersex and not put them into a box based solely on whatever again a doctor doctor who delivered them decide about their body in their healthcare so that's Intersex and then gender non Binary folks for Gender folks you may also they may also call themselves are people who do not subscribe to either box so we think of his agenda as being male or female even Trans folks can our consent within the binary right so so if I was identified for but at live my life as a woman and a woman that still sitting within the binary where Gender Queer person might say I I am neither male nurse line something else entirely or sometimes I'm out more male. Sometimes I'm more female and I kind of go back and forth on the second that's spectrum right there. That's that's a lot that you had to learn how to work within. I'm guessing right. I mean this is this is a lot to take in her. And I also talk about People's genitals which we have historically directly always like that's how we define gender in a way Or you know what we call biological sex. But it's really not based entirely in the reality or the science because again based on a doctor deciding when a baby is born by looking at their genitals so one time which inning of itself when you say those words out loud sound super weird appeared figuring out how to talk to people about about their genitals in a way that isn't gender a great point. What are the discrepancies? Wanted you to talk about these in care care for members of the LGBTQ AAC unity is especially you know in terms of healthcare. A lot of people don't get the candidate they deserve whether it's awkward word whether they don't have access to it but these individuals have to be experiencing That on a further degree guessing totally. So why when we're talking about France people on Trans Healthcare specifically. We're looking at but a one so they took a big transgender healthcare survey twenty twenty fifteen and hopefully. They'll do another one here soon but they are. They found that twenty three to twenty percent of the people who responded didn't see doctor when they needed to because they because of the fear associated. So that's almost a quarter of people of Trans people who answered the survey who were afraid of being the street. The Red And I've seen I've seen that A lot of people are just terrified for the next reason which is a third of people who saw healthcare provider reported having at least one negative experience related to being transgender and not only increases. If you're a person of color or someone who has a disability ability or someone who doesn't shock you know another clear box. Well what would you suggest for healthcare providers. Obviously our shows listened to mostly by physical therapists fists and physical therapist assistants and students in those disciplines where we're can individuals in our audience. Go to get more information to make sure we aren't perpetuating this. It's a good question. Something I highly recommend is falling people in your social media. That don't look like you. So you're GONNA so go. Oh follow transpose. Go Follow Non Binary folks go follow and then there are certainly people on the Internet. Who are both trans and someone of color or a person of color or trans or non binary and also in a wheelchair disabled in some way? So I think that's the number one thing. Is You know humanize these people and remember that that there are people and their experiences might be very different than yours. But they're still valid. The other thing I would say is they so through probably do right now. So Tracy shares education courses Tuesday Farrell and Hutter Reich at where you had a class that I took on public for physical therapy in the transgender and non binary client and that was super helpful. And they're doing another class more involved with actually and talking about sexual positively positively in public floor care and healthcare in general which is super cool. And they're both great resources other than that. I can be Kinda hard because not a whole lot of people are talking about it. Yapper gaffer out there. We had We had Melissa Hoffman in Karla Bell on from PT. Proud which is part of the as as well as proud dot org if you have any interaction there. I have not had a whole time interaction. They I now that you said that like I can think I can see their logo in my head but I haven't personally interacted with them the whole lot but I but I will now. I love your suggestion of of seeking people out who are different than you. I mean really if if you think about it it's it's a simple answer to a difficult question. which is if you want to understand more about people who are different than you talking to people who are similar than you isn't the way to do it right? Totally associates sounds way smarter. When you said I doubt it but it's it's also helpful to rip off the band aid because you see people who are different than you on the Internet where you're not interacting with face to face and they something that say something or or community and something that's totally shocking to you? Don't really understand why they would think that or why they would do that. That gives you time to process and respond to yourself in a way that isn't harmful in a way that very first time you're hearing that in in the clinic in front of you. There's the higher potential for harm as well. The we'll be right back to the PT podcast. New Step created the first project of its kind twenty five years ago. 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They mentioned that to me that they were so scared about coming to the point where they talk about canceling at four different times but they really felt like they needed help and so they were glad they came and then by the third time they came. They told me you know this is. I just really wasn't afraid to come today. I was actually looking forward to this appointment. I knew that it was going to be a good experience. And get the really great fall. Because that hasn't historically been my experience with healthcare provider Jr and so. Yeah it was a big deal for me. That's great. Yeah and the reason I like. It's ask that question on this show is number one. It pits the picture in someone else's head against to listen but it also makes makes the audience think. 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Physical Therapy in TV & Movies with Jason Hubeny

PT Pintcast - Physical Therapy

32:42 min | 3 months ago

Physical Therapy in TV & Movies with Jason Hubeny

"Do you want to be a great physical therapist or physical therapist assistant. Of course, you do you want to help your patients? Where do you WanNa do it well, that's personal to you. Let your pt or PGA license take you were you want to go travel physical therapy positions in all fifty states and D C in all settings where a U. R. E. US medical dot com that's a U. R. E. US medical dot com go there and pick out what's important to you. Let your license take your career where you wanted to go arias medical staffing a U. R. US medical dot. com. Yeah, it's it's. Awesome. All right. Here we go. Welcome to podcasts. The podcast that saves physical therapist for missing out on amazing insight remarkable ideas. And motivational stories. saw the best conversations. Happen at Happy Hour. Welcome to hours and cheers during Mckay I'm your host broadcasting live from the medical studios. Find them online at a U. R. E. US MEDICAL DOT COM leaders in. Hashtag travel physical therapy. Let your license help you move around the country. See what you WanNa see treat where you want to treat. See what's available A. You are a US medical dot com make sure subscribe to show I tune spotify Google podcast stitcher radio. And now video casting on facebook and twitter on the socials at pt point cast, would you want to mention we're GONNA be helping out the Ohio State University. With one of their events for the the foundation for physical therapy research, they had an annual event called the therapy ball, which was obviously an in person event, but not doing those right now. So, we're changing the therapy making it virtual. That's coming up on October tenth. It'd be a Saturday nights we're going to broadcast it via our channels. Here we go. We're GONNA Trivia. There's going to be some giveaways, auction items and everything around Ohio state is is going to be donated for the foundation for Physical Therapy Research Research about your profession the foundation for physical therapy research. That's how you do it. So we'll be hosting the therapy ball with the Ohio state university marching band or something every time I'd say the Ohio State University and that's coming up. We'll make sure you know about that tonight. With, this episode we're talking about television and movies, and that interaction that intersection where crosses with physical therapy right there's there's a, there's a medical show everywhere grey's anatomy and. scrubs some of my favorites that really focuses on physicians, right. But how about physical therapists when we show up where we show up? Let's highlight that plus who doesn't want to movies and got about TV shows I do. So what's bringing our guest? Tonight? We've got Jason hooping in the premise go. Jason Tonight's. Jason what's your Superhero Baxter a European student right now in Connecticut. Yes. I. Am a third year at the University Hartford. Excellent third year at the University Harvard this. First Opportunity in the limelight right you you penned an article for the American Physical Therapy Association. So kudos on you stepping L. and writing an article and what was the title was the premise. You know now that you mentioned on blinking on the title, but it was how I joined the AP in two thousand sixteen when I was still in my first year of Undergrad. Yes. So member for four but student for two as a you were a member of the American Physical Therapy Association two years before you're actually admitted to PT School. This is kind of interesting because online my last couple of days on twitter. Renewal, for my AP membership is coming up and spoiler alert I'm gonNA renew but I asked people hey should I renew right one aso's provocative questions and I was really looking for like why do you renew? Why are you making personal? So we were getting some interesting feedback from people why why they want to be a member and I wanted to share those wise because it's not just because you have to but you're a member before you're admitted to PT School Would you juggle yeah. Big AMMO. We'll see pays off for him, but it did. Why did you decide to be a member of professional organization before you got into PT School? What about it drew you in? At the time we were in a class for our UNDERGRAD PT like we're part of a health science that goes right into the DPT degree and Professors was just talking about it and I looked into it and I was like memberships not too bad. I could ask as like a Christmas gift you know can I get this? So I did that started getting the magazines eventually attended a PD next in twenty seventeen. And As you'll know they start to blend together. When you go to a few we're was twenty seventeen Boston. Oh Yeah. Yeah. So is in state for me I was like Oh might as well go and it was great. I just I got all the free stuff I got I got my free pt podcasts when I was there nice and it kind of just it sold me on. The connections between everybody in PT and how important that organization is. I love to hear that I WANNA make sure we sing that from the rooftops and the connections among the stuff you get like I. Don't know free pint glasses or always go when you go to conferences but it's good to know that you were seeking that out good on you for doing it. So Kudos, we've got the other link below if you're. Watching this live on facebook or twitter. There's a link to to Jason's article. Again, PT School for two years API member for four. So man the cool part is you're gonNA look back and your license. You'RE GONNA be a licensed therapist for X. number of years, but you're going to be at a p member for plus two so you've got that too. So, look forward to that One of the first questions we always ask them a show is usually the hardest, and that's what are we drinking tonight. So what do you got the PT? PINE CAST PT Pint Glass. So I thought it would be really glorious even though it's been done into the ground to bring on my corona. I'm drinking corona for the night I like that I was doing that for a little while and then I finally said you know what I changed so more moving towards fall but I had this in the refrigerator and I feel like I needed to get it in supporting New York state upstate New York. Breweries. This SARANAC Summer Hey Zyppah had you go wrong when there's a bear water skiing on the can this one from UTICA NEW YORK? So cheers to you my friend for coming on the show I. Is. Brought to you by our friends from owns recovery science. That is a good summer as single source for getting for certification and personalized blood flow restriction, rehabilitation training, and the equipment you need to apply properly in clinical practice find more online. At Owens Recovery Science, DOT COM, you're already an author for the PTA and we've got that link available people can read why you decided to become a member two years before you were student. Now that you're a Student University of Hartford, you're doing something a little bit different, outside your studies. I was the same way I Don't really sit still needed to have a creative. That's kind of what launched led me to launch this podcast. You did something different. You did something around writing and TV's and movies as I alluded to in the Intro tell people about the the blog and the website that you have now. Yeah. So I was in summer classes and I had this idea for like a few months like around the star twenty twenty and. You know from your podcasts, taking pt and finding the interesting things going on and then other influences I watched cinemas. I started to think like a wouldn't it be interesting to do at PT movie and TV mix of like. Pt Represent. How're the patients we treat represented and I? Sat Up one night for about four five hours on wordpress and I started designing my website took me about half an hour just to come up with a clever name and I just rolling with. They're just thinking like the grated just do this on my own free time. I love that I'm GonNa Flick it on the screen right there. physical therapy it's rated. I, like that. Got To have the catchy name, have the catchy name. So I love the fact that you had this creative alley you're thinking about it. It made me think of Mr Skin, you remember Mr Skin that was from the was from forty year old virgin. They were sitting around trying to find they were trying to create a website and they were trying to create a a website that had all the nudity scenes in it and there were. Already was the mister skin. So this feels like you're just paying attention to all the different places in TV and films that physical therapy pops up and kind of highly walked people walking people through the good the bad and the ugly not to make another movie reference. Now. I totally understand all my friends that I just constantly quote movies anyways. Like it all right. So what does someone get out of going to physical therapy suggested? PT Rated. PT. Would it people get out of going there and make sure we dropped the URL in there as well? Yeah. So Trying to create it. I was thinking like it would be. Cool for PT's to go to and learn about some movies and TV shows because I know when I think secret obsession came out last year everyone on the facebook page was harping on how terrible the I. Think it was the cane you. So the Walker use was in the movie and Think it'd be fun for PT's to be like, oh. This is interesting that they either did this writer didn't do it right but at the same time I feel like people can also come across it and not not physical therapists and say, Oh, I didn't realize that this is incorrect when they show me this in the movie or TV show. Yeah. In the writing, you're really explaining a lot you really. You know you're you're not making people feel bad or or kind of. You're really just explaining a lot and walking people through your writing at a level where someone who is outside the profession is going to be able to understand it but I feel like you're dropping enough subtle notes in there that you're GonNa Kinda get the inside jokes and they're gonNA appreciate you noticing things that maybe someone else that profession wooden. So when people go there, they expect you go through a specific TV shows or movies and you kind of walk them through. Now it's So for example, I did one on my left foot, which is based on the real life story of a man born with DP. So I went through the movie trying to break down things that I saw like representative of C. P. or of like treatment for it. Then there's other things like my dumb and dumber one where I just broke down a single scene where chose a child in a wheelchair and how really really bad the sizing for the real sheriff's might. All right when people go there, they can they can pick out your TV shows or movies where PT has come across your eyes and you wanted to make a comment on it. You mentioned what I think is one of the funniest movies ever I've told this story whenever this movie comes up I said I watch in the theaters and Alma L. Out of the chair for the Jeff Daniels bathroom scene and will not ruin it for you but the movie is dumb and dumber starring Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels I think it's a comedy classic. It's got so many lines that you can quote, and that's what guys do for some stupid reason females not as much but me and my friends do that sort of thing. So walk us through dumb and dumber. Where'd you comment on here? Yeah. Put the article here for Myself Casse. Honestly I make these in that. I'm like a look back on it months later but I just wanted to comment on the scene for anyone who hasn't seen. Her they are trying to travel across country to return briefcase to a woman and tonight. Yep. And they decide You know there's GonNa take all that they have in go in Japan Carey's character decides to sell their dead parakeet to the blind kid living in their apartment complex which in real life. Very terrible. Movie. That's hilarious. So dumb he doesn't realize how terrible that is. So, yeah. As you can see there, he taped it onto the best that he could and poor billy here tag no idea what he was getting into until later in the film. And I just wanted to comment on the wheelchair. I think for the sake of the movie they just they just chose the first wheelchair they saw and they're like, yeah good enough. In their defense he fits in it. Yeah. It's just for someone twice his size. pity knock consulted but it really just goes to show that humor and I'm betting I know enough people who've worked in and around TV and film they were saying Oh crap. When you know wheelchair can someone go to props just get one and literally it was probably the top of the one on the outside of the pile. But I love how you're able to say I mean this is a little bit of patient or community education and Hey there is something that goes into sizing a wheelchair properly. So able to this this misuse of a wheelchair in a great film by the way and use that funny scene and saying, Hey, you know just see no, there is actually a proper way to do it and this ain't but we get why they were doing it or why they didn't know because it was a goofy comedy anyway. So listen PD's was falling off we don't. We don't approve of that. But you were able to leverage that for a great article about a fan freaking tastic film. DUMBER. Let's go. You've gotta you've gotTa Bunch is making me WANNA watch a couple of movies. Again, the second one I'll bring up another classic film for me. Is forrest gump. You know this one came out Tom Hanks Sally field plays his mom. A long movie. If you wash it a couple of times I mean it's a journey like that is Forced on TV you've gotTa have time because it's long but you gotta have the capacity because no spoilers or anything but what ups and downs UPS and downs I. Mean you go through forests life and it's a little bit of a heartbreaker. So let's go through forrest gump. What were you talking about in for us I feel like there's some some obvious stuff popping out from four. Cello. Yeah. So anyone who hasn't seen the Boris at a young age is born with some unspoken diagnosis they don't exactly state what. Some theories in article maybe it's polio maybe CPI. And the most famous scenes even if you haven't seen the movie, you're fully aware of this quote is run forrest run. and. In that scene, he's running with his with his braces, and then as you see from this video here, they start to pray and then he's able to gain a perfect running form and becomes basically one of the men on earth. And While I appreciate that I'm just thinking like I don't know if it works exactly like that. But it's the movie. It's movie Mad Allison. So, for the audio listeners who haven't. Seen Forrest Gump I. Don't get any money on you seeing it beginning to watch this hockey you. Wearing leg braces on on both sides of full leg braces and he's being bullied in the you know the the the schoolboys are chasing him. I think in a truck I'm not sure whether people. Yeah when they're teenagers, they chased him in a truck which is Attempted murder but. And he's running down the road and Jenny. Who's his love interest is entire life yells the fifth blind run forrest run and next thing you know even the bullies just Kinda stop and stare. Slack Jawed. After he runs in his gaining speed those leg braces just they blow off his legs and next thing there. He's a quarter mile down the road. Next thing you know he's getting a scholarship to the University of Alabama. A punt returner. He's the fastest guy in the world. Eventually he's probably going to see an orthopedic physical therapist because he runs across the country several times. Oh Yeah. But basically stop in to use the bathroom and eat every now and again. anything else about forrest gump that you were you were tying into. Physical therapy profession. Yeah. So I went a little into bracing at the time. We were still going through our class on that. So I tied it in with showing the Boston brace or. SCOLIOSIS in the film, they say to his mother was I have the line for a here that his spine as its target as a politician. Yeah so they were bringing that in and you're able to now. Educate people at a level that they're ready to be educated on it and using pop culture movies television do that. So I thought great use of the film classic film if you haven't seen it, break him out. Forrest Gump, the third and final I wanted to bring up. This is more modern as we started progress and become more modern. You wrote that you tripped across television show is one of the most popular shows on. TV. Our Name Way I don't think I saw until it was a couple of seasons in which is linked way to watch television because night off to wait for new episodes, you can go binge on the old stuff you ever seen. It's It's not in doesn't need to be washed in order because this is more of a hidden camera reality prank comedy show, and that's impractical jokers and. Joe If you haven't seen and you WANNA burn some time and watch. Real quick clips available. So impractical jokers again, true TV making your cycles sore with laughter. Four childhood friends from New York City from Staten Island and they essentially have this hidden camera prank show where they challenge each other to do the most outrageous stuff and if you either balk at it or you don't succeed, you get a thumbs down if you succeeded get a thumbs up under the episode where we've got the most thumbs down, you gotta do something crazy and it ranges from having. To jump out of a plane had to get a permanent tattoo or your eyebrows shaved off. So there's some steak dinner at the end, but physical therapy makes an appearance in one of their episodes in a pretty big one. So talk about their time at. Gotham in New, York? City. Oh. Yeah. I was I was super psyched the first time I watched its one I was like pt let's go So basically, it shows the four of them. I couldn't find a clip on the fourth one but each of them taking a patient on for like something something simple and just trying to interact with patient while time have those hidden era. And they're listening for their accused from the other guys. They basically had to follow the instructions or receive the thumbs down I think one of my favorite bits and you can click the link in the article is Joe just taken one of the physio balls going up to the shocking it as hard as he can and then having a bounce right back at his face. And it just reminds me all the time of how a students just Kinda screwing around with the physio ball 'cause it's an object. We're GONNA screw around with it. Yeah. Yeah. It was. It was a it was a bold move on the PT. Clinic let him come in I know 'cause I got some friends who work in the background and some of these areas that afterwards the patients of the people not on the show who are involved in the prank are are compensated for anything from a gift. Marta cold hard cash. Estenoz, those people their their course of physical therapy or at a few visits was probably paid for because they were doing some ridiculous things. Tend to he was a fifty six K Modem for the first minute of a patient treatment. Outlandish things or aware of very, very deep the. Scrub top one of the guys. So when you saw this, this is more modern. This is shared online. This had to excite you greatly that was at least getting a nod. Now it's making its way into pop culture. Oh. Yeah. The one thing I had an issue with was they mentioned Talla PT's get to wear sweatpants to work every day and like it take seven years to get the degree was like. Many places that do the sweatpants. More Khakis and Polos if anything. Yeah. You're. GonNa find that poem. No. Polo. But. You were nice enough to include the clips in the blog post you WANNA make sure people know it's rated PT. Dot. wordpress dot com is where you can check out Jason's website. What have you learned from doing all these what you learned from from from diving in I? MEAN THAT'S Meant to parallel for me starting this podcast and just having conversations because that was my background, my creative outlet from radio. What have you learned from doing this? I think it. Definitely. Shows that. Movies and TV shows are sort of a reflection of what everyone else thinks. Yes. So. You know when you're watching something like Like, dumb and Dumber with chair you know people don't know as much about that sort of thing APP and we as PT's teasing to be more. Vocal about how to how we help others yeah. Yeah. Be Conscious of the fact they don't know and we do. And use that as a moment for education and not putting them down. Oh, you don't understand this, but you did it in. The tone in a lot of your writing is. I understand that this appears this way in this thing that you saw but let me point some things out that you maybe you admit. So it's almost like you're only on Easter eggs or things that you spot because it listen. As soon as you could talk to analyze gate, you're going analyze gate for the rest of your life. Muncie that. So that's fantastic. It's a real. Coming up anything anything coming up in the future that is on the horizon in terms of PT and TV, movies pop culture that you're looking forward to I I have like a few I've list of ideas that I still WanNa go through this like plenty to still cover I think at the moment I'm like obviously caught up in schoolwork but. Just trying to find time where I can to. Type something out on the pictures and put it up and it is kind of just a laid back. Thing of Lemme Lemme watch this comment on it posted to the Internet someone likes it. That's great. I also WANNA leave it open to that. It's not just going to be my website. I'm always open to people wanting to collaborate and come on and talk see what their opinions are on. Certain movie or TV show that they've watched. So you mentioned other people have you gotten any feedback either from classmates who've taken listen or excuse me a reason to this mentioned putting a podcast that was the thing for me when I launched the podcast I was kind of curious what my classmates were thinking. So have you gotten any feedback from within your class within your school or within the Profession Obviously, you know the people closest to me. I've got like my mother always saying like, Oh, good job with this I have one of my close roommates from Undergrad who will sometimes been the articles that I posted and then be like do that was hilarious how you said this 'cause I want I wanNA keep it light but also informative. And, yeah, I've heard some good feedback so far, and so hopefully, more people take a liking to it and. You know just I. I like to receive the feedback to try and improve what I'm putting out there. Yeah. I watched all of scrubs and I know there was a reference in there I don't remember it so well, but I think, I, watched yeah to me. I. Think I mentioned I watched it before I was even in school. So when you when you pop that makes you tag at PT Pine cast on Social Someone WanNa go back. No. Yeah. I gotTa reward at that episode. So website again is rated PT Dot. WORDPRESS DOT COM Jason we have a segment on the show call three questions you hit that. Still. Let's do. Three questions brought to you by our friends from Rei medical staffing leaders in Hashtag travel physical therapy find online at a U. R. us. Dot Com Do you do clinicals right now Jason coming up what do you got one coming up after Thanksgiving for ten weeks and then in? February, for twelve weeks up to graduation travel physical therapy is a lot like doing clinical rotation. Exactly. You have a license and you get paid to do it so. A Lot. Of, people think. Outpatient Ortho it's not all settings wherever there are human beings. There's a need for physical therapy and it's a great profession you're jumping into So find out what your pt license or your license can take you a U. R.. A US medical dot com. It's a you are US medical dot com, check it out first questions aware question you are in Connecticut but if you could go anywhere. In fifty states, where would you want to for clinical or eventually when you work? What do you think? No I was I was at NFC last year. New. Mexico and never really thought about like southwest or South States. Just your first thought is like, oh, it's probably just hot desert. The whole place by going to Albuquerque New Mexico I was. there. It was freezing. Yeah. Let's reading at the time. It was really weird but. I think it snowed a few weeks after we left to. was really awesome atmosphere to it that you don't typically see in the New England Sydney's and it would be really interesting to spend time down there a few months. Yeah. That's one of the people about channel not listen. They're typically short term assignments. Three months listen to we do remind some rotations all the time. Why not test out tribal? PT When you're early in your career mid career, you WANNA change change get paid to move about the country and test drive areas before you move there. So again, a, you are US medical dot com for trouble physical therapy. Second question is a what question I'm interested in this from you. What's something you've watched or read or listen to a book a movie a podcast since you're writing a blog about movies and TV? What's what's something that you think the audience get value from from either watching listening or reading I mean, feel free also read my article on this as well but I just watched my left foot it's on HBO Max. Now, anyone who has that and like I said it's the story of a man pharmacy and him getting to his life, the title, my left foot he uses his left foot writing and other things and it's Daniel day-lewis super people might not know he's the person who play Abraham Lincoln in the Lincoln movie and he's a very good method actor and he does a really ought yet respectful job of showing someone with CPU the specificity the. The. Motor speech patterns all that stuff. Yeah. He jumps in down day Lewis when he takes on a project that you mentioned Lincoln Gangs of New York I mean thinking what Daniel Day Lewis in gangs and Europe gives me chills because he was a Dude he was very dude in that movie. So my left foot, classic older film but You'RE GONNA learn a lot and you learn different when you watch it. Student or a physical therapist. You see different things and you kind of respected even more respected as as viewer when you're a therapist respective more great call my left foot Last Corp a question about a person. Who someone the audience should know more about? Got This question from you guys before and I was thinking about this for a while is obviously a lot of people at my school and family all that I'd like to thank but I think I'd give a shoutout to three of my professors that have kind of guided me Dr Daniel. Bell's doctor. Mary Nadi in Dr. Sandra Saavedra have all been huge guiding me towards pediatric PT which I hope to end up at the end of all this and just being involved in research and getting to. Exchange ideas with them has been really helpful in guiding my career smart given onto the PT professors you know. Comes up on your phone short. Hey, he did say something Nice about me on a podcast Talia. Right. Always. Good. Questions again brought to you by friends or Maurice Medical staffing the website check about a U. R. E. U. Medical Dot Com lasting would do on the show is the parting shot. Party shop brought to you by our friends at. Economy of. Physical therapy find them online at Ortho PD DOT org a lot of people using their covert time. Right? Not really taking vacation to level up their career. Current concepts of. Pt Its course offering they have at. Ortho. PT Dot Org a great course for the OC exempt. So you're thinking about out learning something well. Join the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapy. Do Some added education. Some Con ed about orthopedics learning from the Academy of Orthopedic Physical. Therapy is probably a good place to start. So their website again, Ortho PT Dot Org. Jason a parting shot really your last chance for a mic drop. What's the last thing? You WanNa leave with the audience as we wrap up I think. That my blog kinda shows. At least for me that it's hard to. SEPARATE PT from the rest of my life. I know sometimes people really caught up in thinking. Oh I need to have a life outside of pt but it it's tough. It's it's three. Dedicated years of just learning all this to help better. People in their movement I think it's fine that pt kind of has overlap in other parts of your life in that. It connects with everything. It's not a separate part of your life. Yeah it's an intersection people talk about work life balance listen. Here's the thing it's life and work is a part of that and it should have balance, but it is not an it's a great ven diagram where a lot of things are GonNa Crossover and you've done that with your website. So we'll make sure we have the the link for people to Click in the show notes this episode as well as the the comments if you're watching this on facebook or twitter or youtube. Jason. 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#Concierge PT with Brian Williams

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#Concierge PT with Brian Williams

"A. M Twenty Twenty stands for annual Orthopedic Meeting of the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapy their big big conference April third and fourth in Two Thousand Twenty in Minneapolis Saint Paul Mall of America head. Spine and shoulder. Disorders integration over isolation is the topic this year. What will you learn? Why should you go highlighting the orthopedic investigator factors affecting patients with concussion? Injuries Interconnection of head and neck complex relationship between the neck and shoulder lab breakouts focused on skill acquisition. That's what you're going to get aerial Giordano Rob Lendl. Joseph Garages Paula. Ludwig and Lieutenant Colonel. James T mills are your featured speakers. Check out more at Ortho. Pt Dot Org. I've been in this profession now going on fifteen years. I'm convinced that we are at least fifty percents psychologist. If you can get into someone's head and really change the way that they're thinking about their situation you can really affect an outcome completely outside of whatever physical therapy you're lifting if you're able to connect with someone and they have this belief that you are there helping them and you're invested in a as a professional you are more than likely going to have good outcome on the show. A fellow Marymount sinked. That's where I went to. Pt School. Brian Williams comes on the show. Brian owns concierge. Physical Therapists concierge physical therapy program. See The name just tells you what it is. He found it in twenty ten and is now up to about thirteen colleagues working with him across the country we get into really what counts as physical therapy is because I'm pretty sure you and I both heard the term but let's hear the nuance. What really is it. Like in terms of day to day and behind the scenes that you don't normally see social media and ultimately what is being a concierge physical therapist give you then we get into the state of the industry and some things you should think about if you ever want to be a concierge. Physical Therapist yourself episode is brought to you by Owens Recovery Science. They are a single source. Let's call them the single source for physical therapists who want to add personalized blood flow restriction rehabilitation training to their clinical toolbox along with the equipment you need to apply it properly and safely in clinical practice. These are the guys find the research more information about it and ultimately we're johnny and his team are going to be around the country the website to do it a wins recovery science dot Com. The best conversations happen at happy hour. Welcome to our is forum award. This is the P. podcasts. Here's your host physical therapist. Jimmy Mackay got the information that you that you filled out on that form. I think it's great. I kind of wanted to structure it two ways. I I WANNA make sure the audience is on the same page. I think number one people nova term concierge PT. But probably don't know what means are actually means from someone who's doing so aren't start there and just kind of look into define it wh- you know what's a day look like. What does it give you in terms of like? I'm guessing freedom flexibility Those sorts of things we can talk about. The state of the industry. Cash practices sure couldn't agree more but this is not my area but I hate when people are saying. Oh my gosh this is so easy anybody can do it Whatever I hear that I go. Yeah because I mean everybody in their mom has a podcast like right this way you can show you how rally easy. I'm not saying it's impossible but I'm guessing there's a lot more that goes into it when when people are trying to sell you something. Yeah so in terms of concierge. And you know how does that? What does that mean exactly in the day to day life of a quote? Unquote CONCIERGE physical therapist. You know the terms. Certainly I think you know it folks some a certain level of quality associated with using that term a name of your your company or branding term or a marketing term and to that point You know the the one on one nature of the service is really what I tried to use that term for in our marketing strategy and our business is bad. This is this is here. We're here for our clients one on one. We're here for them whether it's a bunion. Whether it's a headache whether it's a knee replacement I every therapist that works with me. I want their clients to think of them as their PT. That's the person they all the person they think of. Anything happens to them physically. Whether they're traveling they stumble at home. Oh I have to call Brian because this hurt. It's GonNa hurt more. I gotta get that. That's what we're looking for in the therapists that worked for us and that's the culture that we're creating And have created with with concierge physical therapist now. I think a lot of medical other medical providers have used that term in sort of like a you know a subscription type service where you pay me a hundred dollars a month or whatever much a year and that entitles you to so many. Because we've we've shied away from that just because you know logistically. I think it's a lot harder to manage keeping track of business and payments and whatnot In my opinion I'm sure it works for other healthcare providers and their models but I shied away from that on purpose and just wanted to use that that term concierge as you know really high level service that comes to you and it's really all about the client. It's not about insurance companies. It's not about the physician that may have written them Email and treat pursued. And it's really about whatever they want a deal with them. You know we have some clients that they WanNa talk for fifteen or twenty minutes of up there Our appointment and we are more than happy to talk with them about their anatomy up mechanisms of injury. Whatever it is and we often get a hot point from a client where they say you know. I've been dealing with his knee problem for ten years and no one ever explained it to me and you just did it and you know. It's sort of that. That works like yes. That's exactly what I'm talking about. And in in terms of the day to day life of therapist working for us look like It varies quite a bit. You know we're in multiple markets now. We started this in Washington DC ten years ago. I started it just because I was disenchanted in my eye regular outpatient. Ortho clinic and decided. I needed the breakaway and figure out how to give everything I could to a client with every appointment and and not feel burnt out. You know frankly I was. I was feeling that burn out and I was only three years out of school in the prospect of the prospect of you know another twenty years in in that profession in that setting was really. You know. Daunting wants to me so Took a leap of faith and started this business just myself. It was strictly a cash practice. I had a a number of amazing initial clients that were referring to everybody that they could and that it took off nicely from there and I would say within a year I had a new problem. I was getting you know. Burnt out in a different way. From this this business I had created and I had to figure out how to scale it from there and how to bring other people into the practice. And and that's you know we're still in that position. We have probably about twelve or thirteen therapist working for us in various parts of the country. Now and I'm still trying to scale. I'm still trying to get their like minded therapists who can really understand what we're going for onboard and to help build it even more love it. Website is concierge physical therapist dot com instagram at concierge physical therapists. I don't know if you remember this but you actually came and gave a demo when I was in school in my class. Do you remember this. I vaguely remember you I definitely remember the doing the demo. I think it was a dry needling demo. You know fellow Marymount Grad Great Program you know the the school and the programs changed quite a bit since I graduated. You guys have the fancy new. New Building there In Arlington and we were in the old ugly building by. Hey how ya I one year I did. I did my time. I did one year in the boy. S Yeah one year and then I went to the ice one. Yeah well it. It definitely got the better into that deal. Yeah I remember Dry needling yeah. You Know I. I started dry needling. Gosh quickly after I graduated probably in two thousand eight and it quickly became a big part of my practice. I came into physical therapy actually from massage therapy background. I was working as a massage therapist and put myself through school so I was very hands on and still am today. A joint mobilization manipulations. Pf anything that. I can do to get my hand physically on a client. I was all about and the needling was sort of an extension of that. It certainly is much more effective much more precise and certainly saves my my hands and wrists from from that works. So I've been doing it now. I guess over ten years and I it certainly has has grown quite a bit Within the industry for sure yeah I feel like it was I was in. Pt Scoff Thirteen to sixteen. And I feel like that was a three year period where it was. You know the buzz topic much much like you know concierge or caste based is now That thinness having the big the big spotlight on it in terms of the the conversations on social media in between colleagues. I feel like dry needling that that. Twenty twelve twenty thirteen. Two Thousand Sixteen was kind of its moment. Yeah I think Especially in that timeframe there was a number of you know continuing education companies that really started to market their their their classes and really became much more accessible for for PT. Get those certifications and you know. There's still a lot unknown to me about you know. Some states require fifty hours other require eighty hours. There's a whole wide range of of qualifications needed to hold that certification with within the state. So I think there's a lot to be hashed out on trunk but definitely those those communication companies really. I think that a good job in pushing the the modality forward. Yeah well said he was. Brian Williams the founder and CEO of concierge physical therapist calls himself a problem solver therapist entrepreneur and of course a father and a husband. Congratulations you've founded concierge physical therapists in two thousand ten. We're in twenty twenty You know a lot of businesses. They say fail within the first two to three years. You're at the decade mark congrats. Yeah I thank you. I never never really thought we would get ten years to be honest with you. As I mentioned I was just looking for a different way to practice and to frankly Prolong my career. And you know we've we've made it ten years and Definitely a lot of learning a lot of mistakes along the way a lot of figuring out how to to solve problems you know right now. The position I'm in it's all about fires. I'm I'm putting out fires on a daily basis and I'm also stoking fires on a daily basis so it's as a business person you have to constantly be you know looking for the next thing the networking engaging Just because no at this point we've probably got a good hand revenue streams coming into the business and you don't know if in six months two of those my dry up My Contract Mike. Cancel or something might happen. So you always have to be evolving. Always have to be changing and it's hard because at the same time you're trying to stay true to you. Know Your Mission. What you really. Why you founded the business and what you really wanted to achieve But at the same time constantly evolving and changing with it. Yeah I don't man. I'm read a lot of stuff on social media. It's super easy right east. You just you attend the core download a PDF and you can launch one of these things right or maybe not so right. I am not super active on social media. You know but I do see on instagram and facebook there. There are number of cash based you know feeds and then courses that are offered and they certainly do make it seem quite easy and you know I I would say if they were around ten years ago when I started this I would have helped. It certainly would have helped because there is a road map of some sort out there for people that are looking to start this on their own. But I'll tell you it. It's one of those cases that you know. How do you know what you don't know you learn on the fly? You'RE GONNA BE NASTY and and questions and problems and you have to solve them quickly in a lot of cases and I'm happy to say that I've navigated those waters successfully and everything at this point is really you know processed driven. We we I've taken years to develop literally the exact answer to an email inquiry down to the comma and the punctuation and the exact exact diction words that I use That's been developed over years of finding what gets the best response and how it how it you know elicits a response from people similarly with phone call inquiries you know. A lot of people are surprised. I if they called a business that a Lotta Times I answer the phone and like how is that possible like you own the business and you're the CTO when you're answering the phone. Yeah and the issue there is I. I want that experience for our clients to be the best from the initial contact to the very end. And because of that I. I am the person that I trust most to handle it and certainly as we continue the scale. Those duties are handed off to other people. But they're they're heavily trained on on on that conversation or on that email responsible You know there's a lot that locked that goes into what are some of I mean. I think you've you've laid out a lot of things that people could probably at least gas. Even if they hadn't gone through the things that you've had to navigate what is like. They've been one or two of the things that nobody is going to see coming. You didn't see coming but you had to navigate. Yeah well I think there's probably a misunderstanding of the amount of administrative stuff that they'll they'll left for a therapist to do even in a cash based practice you know yes it might not be you know insurance dominated stuff but there's still a ton of marketing that needs to be done there. Certainly you know dealing directly with clients followups email correspondence those types of things. I think one of the biggest challenges that I had would last year After using a payment system Popular Payments Called Square. Which I'm sure everyone's heard about we had for. No real reason square. Decided they were going to basically lockdown down our accounts and and stop low Depositing Stop Depositing money into our bank account for about two weeks and you know it was right around payroll and you know. We were up in the tens of thousands of dollars of deposits waiting to to occur here. And you know it. It was a very stressful time. I still to this day. Have no no reason why Squared did that. They said it was a customary thing that they do every once in a while where with people's accounts and they started off at the accounts and just make sure there's no funny money go into town or whatever but it was very stressful and never. I never in a million years would have thought I would be in that position. Wow scary yeah. And that's the thing is when you're when you're taking some like this on you get the freedom and flexibility to do kind of your thing and do it your way which is awesome but when something goes sideways everyone looks to you. Because you're the guy that's got to solve it now. You're the girl that's gotTa take charge and figure this out absolutely yup buck stops with me. Ninety five ninety five plus percent again. What's going on here? I got to know when you were doing this in twenty ten which is ten years ago but does not does not feel ten years ago to me where people telling you. Hey go for it or hey this is this is A MODEL. That's not sustainable. What what was the feeling like when you were saying? I'M GONNA I'M GONNA step out on my own. This is the model. I'm going to do to other people in the profession. How did they respond? Yeah well well I I WANNA say Kudos to my wife because Marcelino we had just. We had just purchased a house to be exactly in our timing. We purchased our house in August and I started the business in November of two thousand ten and I told her I was like I. I can't continue to do this. I'm just I'm so tired I'm feeling birds out I'm not getting fulfillment in what I what I was expecting. My career be and she you know bless her she said go for it and That said you know that was a big support system that I needed. I wasn't stressed about About marital situation because I decided to quit my job and started business. Go beyond that. You know when I told my my ex boss who ran in and owned the clinic that I was working at She was surprised she she said. Wow that's that seems like a very big undertaking. You know we're in a world of you know a lot of people feel that healthcare and healthcare services should be free if not very inexpensive and I was out there. You know telling people I'm not accepting insurance and it's one hundred and eighty dollars an hour and that that was and it was no you learn how to manage that that conversation You certainly learn how to describe the difference in what you're offering versus them going down the street to pivot or a corporate entity and like. I said earlier you know I was really lucky that I had a core clientele initially of maybe five or six clients that they loved me. I still keep in touch with them. And they referred me to everybody. They are their neighbors their family and it. It quickly grew from that that core clientele. I'M GONNA throw this This phrase out there used him what you think of a good outcomes. Don't always come from good therapies. What's that mean to? You can always come from good therapies. Yeah I think you know as I've been in this profession now going on fifteen years i. I'm convinced that we are at least fifty percent psychologists if you can get into someone's head and really changed the way that they're thinking about their situation you can really affect an outcome completely outside of whatever physical therapy. You're you're delivering so you know whether it's a placebo effect whether it's you know just a psychosocial effects if you're able to connect with someone and they have this belief that you are there helping them and you're invested in as a professional. You are more than likely going to have good outcomes. And it doesn't and a lot of ways even matter what the actual physical therapy components. Certainly there are exceptions to that but I found that really as I said you know. We are heavily involved in psychology as well as as physical therapy. Yeah well said and hearing your response to. That was reinforcing kind of a book. I'm actually reading right now. Which is Never split the difference. Have you heard of this one? I haven't it's Chris. Voss he spent close to two decades as an FBI has digital Gauche and he talks all about. Everything's in negotiation right giving and receiving information but now the tactics that a hostage negotiator. Because you wouldn't necessarily think that you're a hostage negotiator as person either negotiating for a raise or a therapist working with the patient but the tactics that he used. He said they're all based in psychology. You know how to get someone to trust you to like you to want to do the thing that you WanNa do. You know the the great example. He says the reason the book is titled. As never split the difference. If I've got a bank robber with with ten hostages I can't say all right. Keep five take five. Do whatever you want. Can't go work doesn't work so if you take the mentality of you know spoiling the difference isn't what I want here. How do we resolve this in? It's in a way that's GonNa that's GONNA benefit. Both of us are at least we. Both think is going to benefit for the both of us and that's a lot like it made me think physical therapy. I need you to do this but actually you need to do this. That's my Aurora. That's our rolls a therapist. I think that resonated with me in terms of how you responded to that. Yeah a from our for our therapists side. I mean you just have to be invested in that client in that situation and you can't fake it you know Client GONNA know you're faking and you know in the model that that Built and I'm working in therapists with me or or working in we have the time to do that And I think that's the most important thing you know in a heavy high volume clinic where you're seeing ten twelve fifteen day. You just don't have the time to invest. That's unfortunate client like that it is it is. It's very unfortunate and you know there are some absolute factory mills out there. Pt Meals you know. Fifteen twenty clients a day. I have no idea how people sustain that pass a week as a therapist. 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What a couple of questions that you would say. They needed to ask themselves before they take this league. Because as you mentioned not as easy as as some people might portray there's some work involved so what are some things. People do in terms of a self assessment if launching a venture. Like something similar to what you did. We'll be right for that first thing. I always have a plan. B You know sound pessimistic but you have to understand that it's likely you'll fail Maybe not entirely but Certainly in certain aspects of of Business Venture. You'll fail so what's Your Plan. B. Especially you know if you've got a family and and whatnot and other considerations you need to make sure that there's an exit plan for you and if you're single and younger and you know you can manage maybe without but definitely a plan. B. is needed beyond that. I I think you know you really have to ask yourself. Am I a people person? I know that You know a lot of people might think they are You know certainly in being in healthcare and physical therapy which you're dealing with people and yes it's it's Relating to you know injuries and medical situations but it's a people business and you have to really ask yourself. Do you like dealing with people and if the answer is maybe or certain people than it is probably not a good idea for you. Because you know you don't get to pick and choose what people you deal with when you start a business like you're you're there for everyone that wants to come in and on the part of the ecosystem and there are people that. I have to talk to you that I don't particularly care for and I I don't enjoy those conversations but you know you have your professional and you have to do it and whether it's face to face or via email or whatever it is you know. Are you a people? Person is huge and I think you know importantly to good physical therapists. Don't always make good business physical therapy business people and there's a huge difference between being a therapist and a good business person completely different side of the brain. You know I've had some therapists. Try to work with me. That were just highly credentialed and I- amazing therapist and they didn't have that that aspect of of being connected with with someone face to face with a client and being able to converse with them on multiple levels. So you have to ask yourself to you. Have that business acumen which isn't taught in school? And let's you know you have some sort of Undergrad and business or maybe gone on to get an MBA or something with some pt's but it is completely different. Skill set being a good clinical physical therapist versus a good business physical therapist. Yeah I think that's a huge huge question. People knew best again. The website is concierge physical therapist dot com and on Instagram. At concierge physical therapists Brownie ready play three questions on the hot seat with three questions on the Pine Castle at a three questions brought to you by our friends at staffing. If you're thinking about travel physical therapy something right for you. Whether you're a new Grad season professional check them out online at a U. R. E. U. S. medical dot com positions in all fifty states and Washington. Dc. Don't WanNa live at the capital all settings to a lot of times people think it's it's just alpes north of Phoenix. It's not inpatient. Outpatient pediatrics geriatrics. Let your physical therapy license. Take you where you want to go. Literally find them online at a U. R. E. U. S. Medical Dot com that is a U. R. E. U. S. Medical Dot Com. So the first question. Brian is aware question. Where somewhere in the fifty states that you would mind going for? Maybe a short term assignment as a very challenging question to be honest. I'M GONNA assume I'M GONNA assume I'm single without kids. The spending you know. I'm a big fan of Burlington Vermont. I've been there a couple of times in Certainly you know I'm an east coast. Kid has now living in Dallas Texas. I missed you know the East Coast and You know we haven't talked about our fear choices yet. But you're going to be in heaven if you like your double. Ipa's In Burlington Vermont. So I think that would be pretty high on the list remain. That's great again so Burlington from wherever there's people there is a need for. Pt's so you can do it at a U. R. US MEDICAL DOT COM Vermont. Definitely on the list as is a guy who grew up in New York. The real skiing for me on the East Coast is when you got to Vermont to really enjoy that plus guests the the beers at the end of the run that just tastes better when they're real. Wnba after a little slow second question is a what question? What's something you've watched? Listen to read. That really inspired you that you'd suggest to the audience. Yeah so as I said I'm living in Dallas Texas right now which means I'm in the car a lot and is a car car culture out here so I I've been really into podcast since I moved here. Two years ago I tend to gravitate towards a couple business related podcast namely how I built that. Yeah which is or how I built this. I believe is the the actual title which I forget the Guy's name Roz there you guy rise but just really interested in how people have built a business and obviously with that podcast. It's a lot of tech Tech related businesses. But I think there's a lot of carryover into what I'm doing what I'm trying to do. You know namely when when these founders and CEO companies that a lot of the support of whether it's Airbnb or away or something like that. They all face monumental challenges especially early on and how they navigate but that challenge and overcome it and how they learn from it is really. I think an interesting. And certainly how how the company evolved from those? Those challenges is really really interesting to to that point with a business related stuff masters of scale that is also with Reid. Hoffman is very interesting. Podcast about how to grow the business from everyone has an idea and you know they were a diamond dozen. How do you? How do you implement that and more importantly how can you take it from you? Know what's in your head and scale it to something that that is beyond what's in your head and that that's a great podcast. Something else business wars which is now. It's an interesting podcast about two companies in the same industry whether it's eight Ibm and Microsoft or Hershey's and Mars right and they they talk about the evolution of those businesses Side by side. And how how they you know one one will take over more market share and how? The business responded very interesting. You know to to to learn about these. You know really well known companies that a lot of us have just grown up with whether it's apple IBM or even nets lex versus blockbuster drain these these things that you know. You don't really know the backstory behind and again. I'm always amazed at at these huge companies that are multi billion dollar. A year revenue companies. That back in the day when you know fifteen years twenty years after their they were formed that they are on the door of failure and There is something that needs to be. accounted for at that moment by their CEO or by their board to resurrect the company. Shift that shift focus of the company. It's very interesting to me how these companies have been able to do that. Yeah if you're if you're listening to any of PODCASTS. At Brian just mentioned if you follow got him Gary Vasicek listen the information out there that you would probably get from an NBA. I'm not saying don't get an MBA. But there's so much that you can glean from free resources like podcasts. And all the ones that you just mentioned are fantastic. I hadn't heard of the last one but I'm going to but I mean guy rows exactly taking through the course of a business that you know and you're like well. Yeah they've just always been successful will know at one point you know Airbnb was was was going to be something completely different and then they just made a reaction and you can learn so many lessons from them. Even if they're as you said not in your industry these are these are business. These are people reactions to To issue so Well said third question on three question is who question the Aku. Some in the audience should know more about. Yeah you know. We talked a little bit about social media and and physical therapists and PT. Business On social media. There's a couple of guys that that I've really latched onto Ones on facebook name is Anthony Morio. Yep probably spelled it incorrect incorrectly but anthony started a facebook group. That really helped. I think it's called mostly cash-based. Pt's with the Medicaid Medicare credentialing. It helps people navigate Medicare credentialing and Medicare issue and he's done a very good job with videos and explain the whole pico system. And how you all and they do eight fifty five B Than Ours I. It's really you know I think for someone that even considering venturing off into a Medicare Revenue Stream I. It's definitely you gotTA check it out. 'cause he the way he lays out answers to questions is really straightforward. Yeah and he. He's self admitted someone who was quote not good at a lot of this stuff in terms of like has he does a lot of content creation as well and watching say. I need to be good at this. And the only person that's going to help me he just went and learn stuff. Yeah that's how you have to do it all the time. You know I said to him you know man. I wish she were around ten years ago. 'cause would've saved me a lot of time and that that's really what it is that time figuring out things and what you know. How do you know what don't you know? The other guy is on instagram Jerry. Durham PTA. At Gerry Durham. Pmt Jerry He I believe you own a couple of outpatient orthopedic clinics and he has been shifted sort of business consulting What I like about Jerry is. He didn't he's not about the clinical side. Necessarily not about you know. Do these exercises. And the you know blood flow restriction and all that stuff. He's about the client experience. And what does it mean for a new clients new patient that walks through your door calls? Your Business. What how do you really nail every point about interaction as a as a PT business owner and he will stay that your front desk is arguably the single most important aspect of of your pt? Because if they're not converting on calls and burning on emails whatever your system is you're losing business and he has really nailed a lot of What I feel is is really important about owning a PT clinic. Is that the whole client. Experience Young Jeffrey's Song from Jerry would be nodding along from when you're saying that you're you're you're answering the phone he's like yeah or your craft that email down to the comma. Yeah it matters Zachary it absolutely matters and people you know. Clients prospective clients. They can tell the difference you know. I think he really has helped a lot of a lot of clinics understand that and really sure out a lot of their their front desk process And and help them. You know essentially convert more finance. Yeah well said three questions you off the hot seat three questions brought to you by Arias medical staffing again if you are free to move about the country with that. Pt License. Arias can help you do that. A. U. R. E. 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So I'm just really thankful for my wife giving me that that support initially and the people that are working with now not only love working under this model but I am so thankful to them because you know I. It's not a one man show it's a lot of like minded therapists that are enjoying this model And helping it all work. Yeah it's where people people where people business and we solve people's problems with people solutions way to do it absolutely Concierge physical therapist dot com and again on Instagram at concierge physical therapists. Brian appreciate the insight. Thanks for stopping by man. I appreciate it have a great day. Pt PODCAST is a product of PT Podcast LLC it is hosted and produced by P PODCAST C. E. O. Jim McKay and CBO Sky Donovan from Marymount University we talk pt drink beer and recorded. This has done another poor from the PT podcast the PD podcast is in ten educational purposes. 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Cognitive Distortions and Your Mental Health with Psychologist Dr. Jamie Hagenbaugh

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Cognitive Distortions and Your Mental Health with Psychologist Dr. Jamie Hagenbaugh

"So people really lean into and can have a negative impact on the first fantasy is what I like to call the fast form. We have no control which I imagine. A lot of people are feeling right now. The other one is we have complete neither. We always have control over one thing in the one thing that we have control over ourselves. We have control over the behavior that we have how we interact with people. All we do the one thing that we have people. We can utilize control friend of the program. Doctor Jimmy Hagenbach coming on. Jamie is a clinical psychologist at Thomas. Jefferson University he gets to a tree clinically as well as being an instructor there for their psychology program Buddy of mine since college. Just bring some unique insight into some strategies that you can use for yourself to reduce stress and you can use with patient interactions or you can use as a student originally asked. Jamie come on. Oh man a few months ago we finally got around to it. And when I've asked Mrs Pre cove in one thousand nine hundred and really it was going to be aimed at students and Lowering stress while in school while studying for the N. p. t. that's what was clinicians in clinical practice working with patients. And just you know overall. How do you reduce stress? But I think now more than ever Jamie's insight and he shares. A lot is really valuable so excited to bring him on. The show is brought to you by our friends from Arias. Medical staffing around the country physical therapists are looking for work being a great physical therapists or physical therapist assistant in communities that needed. And that's Arias comes in. They know the areas of need. So if you're looking for work you might think will travel physical therapy and we're not supposed to really travel a lot but if you're in essential role and a community needs your help. Arias really just the the bridge to get therapists where they need to go so all different settings all different locations around the country in all fifty states plus Washington. Dc find them online at a U. R. E. U. S. Medical Dot Com has a U. R. E. US medical dot Com. Go there and see what they have see. What's right for you and helping area of the country that needs it again? Go there at a U. R. E. US DOT COM also. Want to thank our friends at Owens recovery science these guys are experts personalized blood flow restriction rehabilitation. Training the equipment. You need to apply it the research behind it at one point. I talked to Johnny. He was involved in something like twenty different research. Studies going on all at once. All around BEF are so the experts in. And if you're going to google it it's these guys owens recovery science dot com look online. They've also got their podcast on itunes and talks all about. F- are the INS and outs of look to Johnny and his team. That working with the major sports large universities large large rehabilitation hospitals and clinics in your community. That's what these guys break so take a look online. You want to get certified for that. Just learn more. They're the experts owens recovery science dot Com. The best conversations happen at happy hour. Welcome two hours for. This is the P. T. podcasts. Here's your host physical therapist. Jimmy Mackay all right. Welcome back to the show excited to bring on. Why should say back on the show? Today's guest doctor Jimmy Hagan boss. Psychologists Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia. Jamie welcome back to the show. I'm good first time that we're a podcast episode where I get to play the sound effects. Live kind of ADS vibe to it. Doesn't it a bunch of church leave all the time? I am drinking a vodka soda today because it is after six o'clock and This month has been the longest six months of my life. So that's what I'm doing right now. I am the low on alcoholic beverages in my house. There have been able to leave in a while. I'm drinking a jenny. Email Nice aright while I could go and deepen the reserves there. I mean you have to go to deepen the bullpen. Now on the late late game this game that will not end. We just call a draw and all go home every so we bring you on the show because you're psychologists. You're you're practicing as well as being an educator at Thomas Jefferson University and physical therapy I think in the last couple of years and I graduated in two thousand sixteen but I think the conversations online as well as the conversations in the classroom have really started to ramp up the angle of bringing in mental health. And this by no means says that physical therapists are mental health professionals but we need to recognize when our patients or and this is a big. This was a big reason for me wanting to do this or ourselves. Our colleagues are having issues with stress or anxiety or other mental health issues. And what do we do about it? We like to talk about what we need to do with our patients. It's good to make sure we are paying attention to how we can. You know some self care so we wanted to pick a couple of topics that were really down down your wheelhouse. Have you talk about him? Because this is a weird this weird situation right now. I think that one of the things that I do in my job. I work within a counseling center and my school. There's a PT program has been vendor the VP program. There and a lot of stuff that I talk about or discuss today. It's not that I see on a regular basis from students. Wow so it's something that as their experience but also even if you're not even if you're a person WHO's working in the field like this Whether cognitive distortion this is something that everybody does. And it's not a bad that we do but if it's the only thing that we do we only think these types of ways it really impacts a negative way and it continues to build the point where no people become really anxious. Depressed gets no way of them. Achieving the goals that they want so this is something that I see on a very regular basis from Houston. Okay well let's talk about it as a whole. Pt Students Clinicians PTA's wha what's a cognitive distortion. I'm not familiar with this. One okay. Targeted versions are basically wave. That our mind convinces convinced convinces ourselves something. That really isn't true. It's kind of like an inaccurate thought and it's usually reinforced by negative thinking patterns or even emotions that we experienced. But it's not really like sound rational thinking right. We have a stock. Doc comes out of nowhere and if we don't really check with it we don't really we just kind of hold onto it and go with it. They can have a very negative impact on us. And there's about kind of that. I'd like to talk to you about okay. You kind of go through each one. What it looks like and the impact that the first one we would talk about is what they call polarize thinking or black and white thinking and basically what that is in the thought that there's only two extremes it's either this thing or that thing and that's not true. There's nothing in license either. All good or all Beck. There's nothing that's either black or white. There's usually great inbetween. But if we have a thought and we only see one of those two categories GonNa make us. You'll pretty anxious because nothing really fits into usually one of those two bucket right right. We think about Situation where DOT coms up. Well I'm good. I'm bad no no no. No no one's all good ones. I'll bet I know I'm not. I'm pretty sure you're not but sometimes we do. We're good person does bad things or sometimes that person can do good things that we're trying jammed. People into one or two categories really can have negative impact on us really concluded this thing Zaidi because things don't usually fit into one categories and this one comes up a lot of people in my conversations. People always try and say we'll do that though. Not all right. What's the middle? What's what's the great everything's to say. I mean the grain situation when people started thinking that you can take thirty thousand view and you can find someplace that makes them feel comfortable so so give me an example of how someone would in this time right now with pandemic. I'm sure a lot of thoughts are creeping into people's heads of what would like give me like an example of cognitive distortion. That people could be having right now. Left unchecked that really control and give a lot of anxiety so you might be asked to do so. Maybe they're not comfortable in doing though. I know I talked about nursing. I know a lot of nursing students nurses now in surgery. Floors are being asked to do stuff. They don't really do well. I'm not sure if this happens. Pt's they might be in a position where they're asked to do something they don't typically do so the person you go into the mindset. I can't do this outside. My realm of complex. Okay maybe but there are some things that you have learned in PT School. That can allow you to be successful in this job. The mindset. I can't do this. You'RE GONNA throw your hands up and then you're not going to do it and they're not gonNA give yourself chance to be good at something you might be able to do. Now that tween neither I can do it or I can't. I can't do it. Well the inbetween is I might be able to do all the stuff but I know enough to do this to keep my job. Because that's what people WANNA do or be effective. I WanNa be effective though the way that I can be effective as I can use these tools that I have. Yeah but if we just look and say well I have to do something that I can't I'm not trained to do well. That's not true. You are trained. Some level to be able to do some of this stuff doesn't make sense. Yeah there's there's the fine the gray I can see examples in my life. Where just as you're talking about that? You know I go into a project or a podcast episode recording. I'm like I don't know I don't know if I understand this well enough to really nail it and be the best at this. When you really step back it'd be like okay. I've done a few hundred podcasts in interviews I can. I'm probably going to do a pretty good job in trauma. Best and I'm GONNA get something out of it. Yeah Iran as we can find those finding rain. Find that gray. It's GonNa make life a lot easier on it before lighter than black or white all right so so now recognize. What cognitive distortions are? I can definitely see them affecting me and easily affecting you know people right now around the World Students. Physical Therapist practicing. What do we do about it? What are some tools to help manage these well? I think a lot of the things that we can do is they can break them apart. So as I said I mean there's a lot of them. One of the management strategies are we. Can I think about recognizing isolate thought? What is the thought that I'm happy you want can write it down? You don't have to write it down. You can think about and then take your level of stress your distress temperature now distressed temperatures. All right. Have this brought my distraction. Nine out of ten okay ask yourself is thought reasonable all right so I use the example. When I give this presentation I did something that upsets somebody right so I said something that was offensive right. I didn't do it on purpose but it made the person feel back right. So it's a reasonable for me to feel guilty about that. So what I did thought I had. I feel guilty for making someone feel bad. That's a reasonable thing. You take responsibility for it and say look. I'm sorry I didn't mean to do that. And I can work with that guilt. But it's not unreasonable. While I ask myself like how am I just starting this? So is it blacker way thinking in my over generalizing at this point in my disqualifying. The positive my jumping to conclusions. I am I using should if I understood in the thinking that having I need to write down a more reasonable thought so he goes to the example of like. I can't do all right. A more reasonable thought would be all right. What can I do after down? Take a look at your temperature again. Temperature goes down on a good job. Now you may need to do that exercise again but we want to WANNA lower are destroyed. Ten go from ten to Astatine. That's right the belief that we go from ten zero. That's all or nothing right doesn't exist. It's only bothers you and you do something. Just one you're not GONNA go to your rejects rotations. Go to zero. You'll get they're gonNA society. I think can relate with that pretty well. You have a patient come into clinic and they say well. I've been with knee pain for ten years. And they they go through one session or two sessions with with physical therapists and they say how come it hasn't gone away. Well you've taken ten years to to get to this point and it's probably not going to go away in two weeks and that's that's how I kind of looked at that where. Yeah if I'm GonNa ten on something doing one thing probably isn't GonNa Make Zero Order Management threaded. You can do. You can examine the evidence though you thought or thought. Examine the evidence. What's your evidence for that thought? What would make that such back so in other cognitive distortions overgeneralization in overgeneralization usually when we think about PT students. Like if you get a c I'm dumb I'm going to get on the test for the rest of my no. You're not you got one. That's all that me. But if you generalize the next Nasmyth after that you're probably GONNA get a Lotta sees. Yeah so examined the oven. All right you got onc- once was a reason why you might have got it well. I had herself late in my life. Happened it just wasn't in my wheel. So that your evidence for like maybe it would have contributed to my seat. The fact that you're dumb and you can't do. Pt School probably not true because people don't luck into PT's you have to earn your right. What do you say? There's kind of a few but you have to earn the right to be right. Reassurance against it would be like passed a bunch of tests in my life. I've had a bunch of custom peaceful if you lean into and dumb. I got one C. UNATTACHED. I'M GONNA get a variety of different are GONNA get on my test moving forward. You're probably GONNA get but if you lean into the fact like I'm a good student and these are the reasons why I am a good student. GonNa give you a better. That are feeling oh I can do the next right. Not Going to bring you two zero. Probably I mean I know that for myself you get to see. I mean you get a little nervous but not going to bring you two zero. Yeah like that. Write it down. Examine the evidence and It'll it'll reduce your temperature or you're going to have if the way you're thinking person with. I think that is like the double standard. How would you treat another person? Would you say to another person? You're done because you gotta see you say that you can't do pt school because you're GonNa and the answers. Usually no he would never go up to A. Why would you do with yourself? Why would you treat yourself remain to ourselves? Man We are. I mean our harshest critic and I've always found that. Were never our biggest cheerleader right. You know we usually look for people other people to be cheerleaders for us and we're not really looking for external validation. We're not getting it. Secondly was a place where we're pretty much laying down on the ground and then old by the way we're probably kicking a person who's laying down on the ground because where our harshest critics. Yeah all right. So that's generalizations. What else generalization renovate look at mental filter until there would be another cognitive version of you take one negative thing and you flew? All the positive happens a ton he will be like well. Things aren't going well and they'll say things are in these things aren't going well. Boom boom boom boom. And I would say well what's going right. Well this is. This is the only tend to focus on the negative things and usually it comes with a place like we've developed. I'm times what I'd like to think of as a narrative and we only looked for evidence that proves our narratives. Rife one negative relationship. I and I'm not gonNA relationships because my last two a belt but you forgot the for the before they were successful or you forgot you know the fact that whenever you go out people are interested in talking to you you know you only focus on what you WANNA see. Results are out that positive stuff and only find a negative. And if we do that what's going to happen. Feel bad right. That's GonNa make us bring us. Yeah I'm guilty of this man. Big Town I remember and I think that for sometimes people will tell me that they use it as a way to push right so if I if I'm hard on myself should have critical myself that's GonNa make me feel that's going to push me to do the next. I say fine. That's how you're using it fine. But if you're just disqualifying the positive and only focusing on the negative in keeping down. Is that really working out the way you want to write? Is it getting in the way? 'cause coping mechanisms as we as we learn like help us get to a certain place right so maybe that help you help if we're thinking about going to PT School. Maybe a lot of things that you did helped you get to. Pt School because school the different animal right and sometimes if you use those same coping mechanisms the US an Undergrad. Npt school now. They don't work for it. Well do you want to change them? This the coping mechanisms hennion. Pt School. When you go on the real world and working out for the one I think of his procrastination procrastination and we can talk about this. This is a big one that comes up but people will use procrastination and maybe they functioned the when their backs up against the wall they work really hard and that worked really well for them in Undergrad when they get. Grassley can do the most like okay. You want to keep using cocaine mechanism because it worked one or is it worth changing cigarette. Then people get the belief of like well. That's the reason I got to school. No that's not the reason young the PT School. Because you're good at ta you can remember stuff they figure with people. You have a passion for that that's like it's PT School. That was maybe one thing that helped you. The only reason he got here are the things that people do other cognitive resources that people engage in. What are what? I like to think of his jumping to conclusions. Things are mind reading. Unfortunate thing about coming to conclusions. The first one to mind reading. I know what that person is thinking do you. Do you really know what they're thinking? Are you making assumption right? This usually comes up Relational like oh I already can even come up with professors like professor gave me look and other thing and they don't like is it or did they just have like a bad breakfast or there's GonNa look at you right like we don't know but if we jump to conclusions we can be can base our behavior that professor gives us working class at professor doesn't like me now now. You don't have the desire to go up to the professor. Maybe it's your boss. Your brand new at a new job boss gives you a look like you. Don't talk with her boss. That's GONNA get your way. They're struggling in the classroom at work. You've developed a relationship or you develop an idea a person just because you think you know what they're doing let doesn't seem or fortune telling. I know that this situation is going to happen once again do you. Are you making an assumption? Like I know that if I call such and such they're not gonNA WANNA hang out do you or just because they didn't want to hang out last time you're assuming that they don't want to hang out this so we have to really watch the way we jump to conclusions because once again that can get in the way that dictates our behavior and it can make us feel downfield anxious. Louis that I help people and when we're thinking about jumping to conclusions I asked you make an assumption or you know of course I'm making an assumption. You're making assumptions. How do you want to check it? And there's a variety of different ways. You can do to check you can Ask a friend. I would think of it as like checking in with other people like all right. Do you actually know this thing or an assumption assumption? That's a good one. Ask a friend like would you do this? Would you not talk to professor? Because they gave you the look no of course not. I talked to him. Probably like the survey method. He gets survey of people that you know and trust if they give you an answer go with are there. Other distortions of people tend to use showed statements or your showed person. Jimmy doing this. This should be doing the yeah. I think so. I think get on myself like that. I tried you too much. I think it's the sugar and a half years. Well I'll tell you right now. There's nothing in life that you have to do all right. You don't have to pay your taxes you don't have to go to class. You don't have to go to your job. It comes with consequences if you don't have to do anything. And when we set up in half we never reward ourselves for doing it. So people say we're thinking about you know you don't have to study but if you set it up as a half year if you do study you don't get a chance that you'll good about that but if you say. I CHOOSE TO STUDY. You can feel good about them. I should be studying. I mean we we think about school like there's always something else you can learn. There's always something else so I should be doing this. I should be doing the place that makes sense. Yeah Yeah I'm looking back to what you were saying for. Mind reading men once I heard about this theory from Gary Vander Chuck puts out a lot of like marketing content online. But a lot of it's kind of thought process stuff and he talked a little about mine readings like dude. I'm telling you ninety nine percent of the people that you think are judging. You don't even care about you. They're not even thinking about you. Like we make assumptions about what people believe. Yeah and we have no evidence none and it's like well this person been email me back. They must not like me anymore is they could have fifty emails in their in their inbox. Just haven't got your. Oh Yeah We. We create a narrative around that of what of why we of whatever we did wrong. Why that person might not like me or whether or not paying attention to me. Is that like tribe mentality like from the like the animal part of our brain where it's like. I need to be liked because I need to be part of the group well. I think it's part of ambiguity right so when we sit in that grayer that we talked a little bit about earlier ice. We shouldn't ambiguity. We don't like we want an answer. No one likes it in the. I don't know so if there's ambiguity usually what people will do and I don't know why it's on the lancs usually filling the blanks and they usually filled with negative. Yeah I do that. And then we base it on. Then we based our behavior on the negativity. Oh because I don't know it's uncomfortable sitting. I don't know the let me put something on it. Like an have an answer whether it's the right one or not and then then I know what just feels something about. I can feel angry about it so we'll go back to the email example hasn't answered your email. We don't know why they haven't answered your email but if you make the assumption will they don't like you can get angry at that person pretty easily being depressed. What did I do? What did you do this person and not allow them to make them write me back right so when we did in that ambiguity that I don't know uncomfortable and if we we struggle with it we're going to try and force it to one opposite or the other one of the bowlers? Though the other we're such weird animals like I feel like we get in our own way from happiness. Redo Redo narrow ways a lot like I said it before. I WanNa make the caveat like even if you do this stuff not bad thank you do it all the time and it has a negative impact on you. That's when it becomes bad. That's what we have to be able to watch one of the other things. Don't worry I was gonNA say like even you're you're you're just writing it down right. It's like lay bill labeling. Our emotion like even that is going to lower temperature just a little bit. Yeah even just to see that it's ridiculous because what people what usually happens. We haven't negative thoughts and it goes unchecked and the negative thought then goes on a direction you go in whatever direction it is it might make the before anxious depressed heartfelt overly critical but what the goal is to begin to when you have a thought. We can't stop the soft toss. They're GONNA come up. You can't stop the thought but what we can do. We can do something about it when it comes right so the thought comes up and it goes on check. We know what course of talk comes out. We decided to do something about it. Write it down. Talk with someone about it. You know ask a friend about it. Would you do this live? That's something different and again. There's an opportunity to let that sought goal way. Like I said we can't go. We can't control the thoughts from coming another one. If you WANNA think about is one of the personalization the personalization are started. Like a little kid. The little kid comes into the room. Mrs Parents played and then Kit will be like why did that? No you didn't okay. Your parents probably finding about something else but if that's something that we continue to do as we get older. It has a negative impact on us as we go out we go out. Hang out with friends. Friday nights he cut are touched on feeling great about life. Because I have a couple of sodas that are happy hour having a bad night of that. How do you know but if you believe that it's going to ruin the night person? They didn't do wellness task. But we personalized thing. Don't you can have a negative impact another distortion. That is really big. And I it falls into the perfectionism one but it's called at the idea of always being right. I always have to be right. And if I'M RIGHT NOTHING GOES WRONG. Not True not sure. I'm I'm a big baseball fan and you can throw a no hitter. Instilled into the game knowing ahead and you can lose a game. Just because you're right doesn't mean everything is going to be okay but if you if on the path that you have to believe that everything is okay or five to be perfect for something to work. And you're not perfect human beings. We cannot be perfect. We are fallible perfect. That's going to call you a lot of stress and usually people people will do is. We'll stop their goal of perfection knowing that they can't reach it. Which is fine if you want to set a goal perfection. There's not a big deal. How are you treating yourself if you are perfect? Studying a goal that you can't reach your chicken yourself or not reaching that goal not very right. That's what you WanNa do is with. People are starved being checked. Also people think about digging big things and what I like to think of his magnification minimize. So what people usually do is. They'll magnify their salaries and they'll minimize there's exceptions so The way that I look it is everything that you do wrong is yourself if you do something right. You Got Lucky. If all your all your successors should be have all your successes are lucky and all your all your all your failures also lucky bad luck but if you constantly look at why did something bad. That must be a bad person. We magnify these bad things. There's no way we get the feel good about ourselves especially if the good things that we do get minimum so we looking back. I have one bad patients that I just. The one session didn't go well or didn't connect with that person or whatever but you neglect nineteen that you saw Brian. You're going to have a bad day. It was like all right and is one bad patient will. Can I do that to make a little bit better? But how can I real my success? What did I do really well today that I can carry to the next day with the patients or whether it's for students studying and Alaska source and I want to talk to you about this happened. This time is the one that I think of his emotional reasoning and basically what that is I feel something therefore I became so I was that way so I I don't feel like going to school today. You don't go to school. We're feeling just a feeling I feel like I'm the bad going to happen so I'm not gonNA be like I'm not going to do well. I'm not gonNA stay right. We let our emotions guided by where my goal. When I'm working with people especially students is I wanNA have a good balance between what you feel and what you think? If your feelings drive the Boston they go on. Check my now workout. I if you're thinking drive the bus and really tap into any of their emotions that you have also not going to be helpful to you. You want good between. I feel that because I'm sure you've had these really laying in bed do they morning and you're like I do not feel like going to work today but you get up and go to work but if you lead that feeling of I feel like I don't want to go to work today. L. Yoga I feel down. I'M NOT GONNA be able to make my day Bro. You feel down right now. Maybe if you get up and do something yeah you might feel a little bit better about my swim. Coach had a way around this one. He was like a coach not feeling today. Not Feeling Great. He was like all right. You can go home. You GotTa Swim for fifteen minutes. If you still feel like that after fifteen minutes you can go home. And the thing was he knew. Once you're in the pool near you warmed up you're just like I'd screw it. I'll just finish this work out. I mean I'll work with people like I don't feel like you're not a bad right. Just get outta bed. Turn off your arm. Put your room turn it off. If you feel you can do that. You feel you'll brush teeth. Made me feel like you can do this. And if you start to pile on a little bit at a time you can you can do it but when people what people will typically do is they'll look at the melon that they have to do so we're thinking about students. I cannot accomplish all of this works that I need accomplish semester. They look at the whole right. It's like well can you do we? What can you do that one? And if you do enough of those assignments you just want to look at a map. You're done this one. I think are very very good externally with patients. Were you know I think Pe- teaser and and people in Rehab in general or in therapy in general are very good at doing externally with patients? Like listen you WANNA run a marathon. You can't run it all right now because you haven't run one mile yet It's the funny part is when we turn it on ourselves or I should say we don't turn that thinking upon ourselves. I mean I tell people all the time I have the easiest job in the world is a therapist psychologist about this stuff. You got to do it. That's the hard part and people say to me like well it so much easier said than done. I agree with you right. It is so much easier said than done so by doing it your way in in the way we talk about it but if you want to do something different yeah we're gonNA put forth the after the we'll be right back to the PT podcast. Do you want to improve your skills as an orthopedic physical therapist? Do you want to practice of a top of your profession? Have you ever thought about earning your Orthopedic Clinical Specialist Certification? Well imagine how great it would feel to go into the OCS examination. Feeling Confident and prepared that you'll pass on your first attempt. If you were given a plan that was simple to follow. If you were given lessons that were easy to understand. And you're given sample tests. That sharpened your skills. 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In meaningful ways for awareness of physical performance goals identifying a correcting deficits or imbalances ticket test driver fund out more and new step DOT COM. That's N. U. STEP DOT COM online at new step dot com. Let's get back to the show. The other thing I wanted to talk with you about usually get a couple of people really lean into and can have a negative impact on word of the first balanced is what I like to call the path. And there's two fastest one. We have no control which I imagine. A lot of people are feeling right now. Sure are the other one is we have complete it. Neither are true. We have no control. We always have control over one thing and the one thing that we have control over ourselves. We have control over the behaviors that we have how we interact with people we do. That's the one thing that we have control and we can utilize that control and we can be successful and the other one is. We have complete consult complete controllers. I can make another person do what I want them to do. You can't write. I use the example. I have a young son and my young son hates eating Broccoli. Now my young son tiny and I can ground that kid for a week. I can take away everything everything that he likes doing now and play on his candle than to his room. I cannot make that Kitty Rockley. I O way that kid by two hundred pounds. I am five feet taller than that. Kid I can make that Kitty Brockton right. There's no way that you're gonNA make another person. Do you want them to do? Because you can't control what when we think we can and we and then we come to that realization that we can't make us feel very anxious. Why is this person doing what I want them to do? So we can't control our patients. We can't make them. They plot of people that I work with. I know if you keep doing this or you do things this way. Your life is going to be a lot better and I'm sure as a PT. You know that as well yeah like I know if you could just let me take the wheel for five minutes. I can make your life better. Let me deal. Let me help you deal with that. Fear of moving that thing that you don't WanNa move. Let me help you deal with that pain and let you know the paint. GonNa Be Okay. But if we can't control people but we can get very frustrated with when we elites as that we all need to work the other one that. I talk about thousands of change that we can make people change. You can't make people change you'll have to want to change. They'll that is like you can bring a horse to water. You can stick their head under the water you're gonNA make them drown. You can't drink. It deals for people no matter how much we want people to change. We have to find that thing and the thing is usually people wanna do something and the reason that I know that is because they show up. The people don't WanNa Change. We'RE NOT GONNA show up right for the fact that you're instructed there in front of you means they have something right big win big win and once you get there. It's finding that one thing is going to help him move in the direction that they want to go for me and I'll tell people like no one's making the ones mandating you to come here. You're coming here of your own will. Let's find a part of you that wants to be here under utilized under. That's what I think. That really applies especially physical therapists. Is We get caught? Because we're really care. We want to grab that wheel and recognizing that you can't you really. Can't you know you can drink someone? You could fool them. You can bribe limb but really making a behavioral change especially in therapy because you this thing has to be lasting or will. It won't stick around. That's that's important at least just to recognize that it exists. You can work with it. Once WE RECOGNIZE IT EXISTS. And what you recognize that the person showed up. I mean I don't know the old saying like what is it. Ninety percent of life is shown up Yogi Berra right. I don't know yeah one of the ones that he said that actually made for like if you can get a person of of you and we just gotTa find the thing that brought from there right and if it usually and if it's someone else made me come yet but you came right so like you could have protested. You could have not gone in the car. You couldn't have done but there was a piece of you that want to come. So how can we find that piece of you? And how can we utilize that to get you to dig into thing? You might want to do so when people are there. They want to change. We can't make them change. We've got to find the thing that they identified like all right. This is worth doing. This is why do it and the last one. I WanNa talk to you about what I think of it and I don't want to crush people's hopes and dreams right now. Life is not fair. Never never heard that before i. I'm sure it's novel to a lot of people that are listening right now. The life is not fair but if we believe that no life needs to be fair that can make us very anxious and or varies. That was like well. I did this this and this. It's not fair. Yeah Right. Things aren't fair. Think of this as newer Jimmy. But I was the type of student where I'd have to read for long periods of time and then I had a friend who would just walk in res for two hours trucks. Get a better grade on letter grade. I've probably worked a hundred times more than they did. And they're just. They're just smarter than I am doing. Anything about that is a fair. No but if I focus on that or I focus on especially when we think about that one I study prayed our buddy for two big the exam you know. I just got through if I started thinking about that. They can have a real negative impact on that relationship that I have a person but also an opportunity for me to really kick myself. Dot Com myself thumb where it's like no my goal my goal in school to get through and if. I keep getting good grades. I'm going to get through it. That's my focus gets away from that. It can make me now WanNa Study. Bihar myself and it can ruin the relationships that I have in my life. There's some of the things that I find as humans or something that I deal with on a constant basis. They really get in the way. And they're just like I said they're small tweaks. Yeah stocks are GONNA come up be cannot stop. The people get upset like I want to control my thinking. Can't control your thinking. It's not love to be able to help people control their thinking but can't when they start to come up when you WANNA. Do you want to examine the evidence? What's your evidence fort with your evidence against it? Would you say to another person? What's the gray though? Survey your land. Yeah I think even just I like that taking the temperature. Just where are you? And what's a reasonable? What's a reasonable change that you think you can enact to changing your example from ten to a seven? That's pretty good. Yeah that's that's good right and if you can keep that up if you can go from seventy five well you know. That's that's another positive change but really it's like you said there's no magic bullet. There's there's no there's no There's a pill that's going to do this for you doing the work now and if you see you only get three right. You're that's the best you're GONNA get. Would you take three over a ton? Yeah I would. Yeah if I'm if I'm anxious about something. Thirty percent of the time. It opposed one hundred percent of the time to defend Golden. I'm I'm I can definitely do that. And also look at the ways. They were treating her like. Are we using half Jews Insurance? Can we say it another way like it'd be nice if I could get through my list? It'd be nice if I check off all the boxes. It'd be nice if I got one hundred on this stuff. I choose to study and that's a good choice and I should reward myself for that good choice because I don't have to study. Yeah mindset change just little words make a big difference. I heard a I saw one online one of the one of the good things I've seen on social media last couple of weeks. It said. Have you seen this. I'm not stuck at home safe at home. Yeah degree one. It's just changing the framework that you look at CNN. Beat it doesn't have to be a big chain. One I would say is just. Make sure you believe that changes that you're making right so if you're a person who tends to be typically hard on yourself typically critical of yourself. Go and be your biggest. Cheerleader is probably too big of a jump. All right so to go from your biggest critics your biggest cheerleader might be too big of a jump but if we can go from your biggest critic too. I don't know Oregon sit somewhere in the middle. That's an appropriate Joe. I do not as hard on yourself or you can look at a situation and go what. I did poorly. This is what I did good against them somewhere in the middle. I guess I'm not the worst person. Positive change positive. Exactly we just want to move in a good direction and resources that you suggest or your websites or different places that you typically send. Anybody is earning were that that you usually do that online or people that you read or follow or anything like that. I mean if you WanNa like deep dive into a of the stuff I mean. There's comes from a school of therapy. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Dole. If you were to just type in like cognitive distortions into Google you'll find a bunch of different things but one of the things that I always recommend a people's right down journal you're always a big thing and even if it's something that you do maybe like three times a week once again better than nothing. Yeah Right Right so journal and always a good thing or digging some time and being mindful right at the end of the end of your day sitting down and saying to myself what did I do well and what can I work. I work that I do bad. What's something that I'd like to see myself do differently tomorrow right and I think that those two but there's a bunch of different things you can do like. There's actually if you were to type in cognitive distortions into Google there's worksheets you can have like one of the worksheets that I've seen like it's kind of cheesy but there's like a picture of a judge and when. I said the examined the evidence like what's your evidence order sponsor evidence against the verdict right cheesy but it works if there's something that the struggle for you to do a good remind. Yeah I mean. I'm sure you had to do this throughout school. And I thought reflection and being kind of journaling was like the biggest pain in my ass. Because it's it's one of one hundred things you have to do. But I've noticed that my kind of reflection is having conversations with people like yourself like my friends my peers people. I really care or I respect their opinion. When they're they're truly listen. I can hear myself speaking a little better about the things I've done. Speaking a little bit less negative about the things that have happened so that kind of reflection is better for me for me. Writing it. Down doesn't work but setting aside some time to be mindful or at least say it out loud definitely makes me walking away from those conversations feeling good. It's your frank I can't tell you how many times in my day people be like. Wow when I say it allowed it kind of sounds ridiculous weird right. Yeah Talk to you about it. Talked to someone you try you like. What do you think about weight? It does sound ridiculous when I heard good points appreciate this. Look I think the tools and just recognizing the different things that we talked about today. That are out there that are affecting us that are affecting our colleagues are affecting our family that are affecting our patients pretty much affecting everybody. I mean right now. We're literally all this together in terms of the world. It's probably the one of the only times in the world that the world kind of is on the same boat is during something like this like a pandemic so I think we're we're all we're all feeling that I mean I think we all have The shared experience of experience. Does you'll barely very lonely right role that shared experience of being alone and being afraid? How can we work with that shared experience so it doesn't over want I mean? I know they use the term socially distant I kind of heat terms. Yeah because I think it should be. We should be physically distant right where we should be socially connected right. I like that into little mindshift changed little word change like that. Richard Stranger little bit screwed away. But we can talk to people like Jamie. I appreciate your time for people who like to hear. Jamie and I talk about different stuff. We actually launched a different podcast. That has nothing to do with physical therapy. But it do with psychology Jamie and I have a show called cinema psych. You can find an itunes on spotify on Google. The whole nine and We take a look at some of your favorite movie characters and you treat them like Kinda like psychological examples. Are you know we treat them? Treat them like psych patients where we look at the different things that they do. You talk about real life examples of why that character. Why the person would do that. And how we can relate that to our own lives so new episodes coming out whenever the hell we get around to it whenever connect whatever whatever life allows it. We've got about five or six up there right now. 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Adopting a Grow & Abundance Mindset with Kadeem Howell

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Adopting a Grow & Abundance Mindset with Kadeem Howell

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The crowd roar behind me. Could he was going to talk about some mindset. Things this like Cotin. He talks. Strategic Mindset. And then tactical great now you've got that mindset. What are you GonNa? Do about reading too that. Also GonNa talk about literally all the different things that he has done. Did. You just hustle mindset. I think I could say that safely Hustle Mindset, growth, mindset, abundance mindset now what you can do in your physical therapy, practice or life to bring you what you want. Great you don't forget to subscribe to the show I tune. spotify Google Google podcast just so you don't ever miss an episode and Never GonNa. The video thing Youtube facebook twitter at PT podcast on all the socials. Let's change it up and let's bring him in here Kadena. On the show rights now there he is. Not. Dean thanks Oh. Thanks so much for taking some time out today. There's the social is on the screen at Dr Deem on Instagram Twitter Kadena howl. And you're in New York City. Oh sorry just outside on your Westchester. A aftermath heart I just left New York City not long ago. It was difficult. But there's that I feel like we're GONNA. Talk a lot about the hustler mindset in terms of like I. Don't Know Newark kind of like beats that into you in terms of speed and the veracity of of the city, and even the the areas around the city. Clearly setting saying is if you'RE GONNA, make it here. You can make anywhere, so you know you just gotTa. Have the House online the? It's so expensive live here, but. You gotTA wills. Way Yeah, and if you want there, you'll find the way that's the thing. How do you do eyed students asked me how do you? How do you? How do you keep so much energy up? If you really want it unit you never that question never crosses your mind because you understand that the world, the universe whatever you believe in terms of the secret, there's this universal force whatever. It's not gonNA. Give you anything unless you. Unless you go out and get it so we'll do the first question. Let's let's. Take Action Right first question is always the hardest. We get the first question out of the way I. What are we drinking today? That's the question. Mark May. Wow smokers mart riding. It selects a big, whiskey. Well. Luckily yeah I'm doing. I went to a local beer world today and this I had this last episode to its Mill House brewing out of Poughkeepsie New York. I'm in the Hudson Valley. It's called the grocery getter trump. But then. I just noticed this. Welcome back from the fridge on it. It says the art plus science of Beer, isn't that describing physical therapy little our little science, and let's cheers cheers to you could deem for coming on the show and Tink tink as we drink. Thanks, to our friends, who owns recovered science for bringing you the first round the. Single source for looking for personalized blood flow restriction rehabilitation training in your clinical practice if you're to do it. With human beings do it right, we have the equipment in the certifications. Check them out online. At Owens recovery science dot Com Johnny owns at his team. Cal, Kimbrel lot of smart. Women and men in their crews. Check them out online and there are new podcast owns recovery science podcast on Itunes codeine. What's your story? What's your? Superhero back story. You know how'd you come to this great question? Where's open ended? Where's the start? So, so, yes, so I grew up in Long Island and a little town called Manhattan New York island on the island as we say, the islanders Yotam on island. and. actually really SORTA. My aunt so I had an aunt. was a story of a high school, Super Smart she stroke and had Lupus in college, and she was getting home therapy, so like I was like five six years old and everything understand what's going on, but we always had a therapist. Who now's a therapist? Come into the house. Only that ladies coming. Check on Aunty. Whatever and So I was like my first introduction to like okay, you can help people recover. She had a Senate weakness her whole life up until she was deceased to deal complications lupus like Oh. So you know in the fast forward high school. So I get I was fall track athlete I was always hurt like always. And artha traitor he was a PT. For the school and accused cool, so like why we get hurt on the field. His clinic was down the road so like he had a good night Stephen System like ago so to. Tease out there ABC's work at school or go to your clinic. So we had a great business. On hold on, it's not proximity its relationship itself. Who can help them on that guy that guy he was, he was awesome. Even to this day is names George. He's the CEO Professional PT. One of the largest PT clinics in the northeast. They have over I. Think Three hundred locations now now and That was when I had two locations. This is back in two thousand three, so now see how they scaled up their enterprise it over again. So I was like early adopter of their business model and Cool guy like us, no charismatic and like. A Nice car everything else like I was like. What are you? What do you do? On the PT like you know this is my thought. Train and I was like Oh interesting. Okay. I mean like the Clinical Alberta. Like this is dope, so that's you know that was like Oh wow Alec I could do sports or sports rated and help. You will be cool and drive a nice car like that was like high school thinking okay, you know you know like PD doing it little. Did I know at the time? It's a lot more than that. We'll get into that later on. And then I got A. Scholarship to Suny Albany upstate New York yeah track. All American high schools are recruited to do long. Jump triple jump. All American as a freshman on long jump. You know competing the big boys in Division One. that. Hall. Know what that would look like goodness if you're watching the video casts. We're actually watching. Is this you? Twenty pounds lighter. Boy So locked on. audio. My God! You're warm in the back of the long jump. Does. So, my first one long John was twenty four seat twin. Realize heat to. Ask. Triple jump like forty nine or fifty feet, which is like? You know. You to national. Podium. It measure mining like centimeters, but not a whole lot. I'm not a jumper. We just had Yudo right. Thou was the. Worst thing would be meet. Someone else with the same name as you, but that was like I was like. What are the odd how University of Albany and I looked at? The time fits, that's. That's that's me. You know, and you know that passion of sports and Athleticism, so I was in the training room in high school college was even more so I registered my true freshman year. You know my wife who my girlfriend at the time now by the track team and we're going to try to Puerto. Rico Mak- older country I was in my dorm room like. Mash. It sucks. But. You know that's kind of where you know the strengthening the minds. Start me just like you know like injured. I'm going to get to work. Go to the Rehab do gotTA DO LISTEN TO MY trainer? Go to t outside of the training room and just boom boom boom Tackett. So that's Kinda like when it really started, you know dealing with adversity was like okay. I'm going to deal with this following year, made it? It to nationals as a redshirt freshman, Jose use that adversity Kinda. Parlay as motivation you start, you wanted and you a. you knew there was some useful where you were, and you saw what you want. And you said well from A to B. I need to do something, and this is what it needs to be so so this if you follow codeine social media channels throw their again. Twitter, Kadena, howl or instagram Dr Deem. First and foremost for you. Since I came across. You miss well. This is one of the reasons I like social media as you can trip across people we. We've never come in contact with each other, because we're not geographically next to each other and you start. You start watching. What people do not necessarily listen to what they say like even Gary View will say that. Don't listen to what I say. Watch what I do. And when I saw you do was consistently. Do Oh consistently post and say things that were relevant to me, which is like? They weren't just these those quote from wall. They were practical and tactical listen. If. Something sucks fixed. It like I mean, and that isn't one of them, but because you're a more prophetic than that, but like that. We do that tomorrow. tweet that. But adopting a growth in abundance mindset. Now I get it. That's where it came from right it was you saying I wanted to be I? Wanted this and I realized I was I was hurt and I was in the dorm room. So how do I go from here to there? I Hustle I. figure it out. We lost him for a second there. We'll take this opportunity to thank our sponsor there you back. I'm back now. I was GONNA say that That's where it started from there. It's just practice. Practice makes perfect. Though. It sucks through it, but like you. Just you just get you know like looking. Anita's grabbing up layer like. Morgan Nadu with adversity new come on the other side. But. Yeah? I was able to use that and you know. The me personally like impeach school password PT School. It's kind of on topic now with Lino. Black lives matter everything While I was in school, my younger brother was a victim of police brutality. Like this is second and third year, p.. I second school night I remember like. You know it was hard. That want to ally you Brooklyn PD, school shot the blackbirds there now. The sharks I think they changed their name on the like that, but But now like you know, that was another adversity thing. Either sit here and crumble. You know it's my brother and my only brother. You know I was like I, still got finish finish PT school like I was ready to drop out like log on all my family and everything, but again it's like dealing with adversity in the past. You know just kind of get enough layer. Get Hard, and do not might be ignorant, but he's just know how to deal with things that aren't in your favor and kind of fuel that keep you going so like. Yeah, my grades dip for a little bit in PT. School because you know my professor's name new. And they they they understood like you know, but don't. Ask Mates, you know, love me. Look like per se like you know. Kept, it in Other no family. My girlfriend's time I was like this is just another one of those flights. Though these punch you know but like it's all about how you dip in dodger. Hit Kids to sit there and take them all day. Expect to stand up. You know you got to bounce back a little bit time to time. Well I I'm really sorry that you had to deal with that. I'm sorry. I had to live through that. I'm sorry that but I think one thing that you're highlighting to is that one individual is affected by police brutality, but not one individual was affected by that situation. Because you're saying my grateful will why? This was not an isolated. This was not an incident that just happened in went away. Hundred percent and you know you know. Reaching when people ask them, how do you deal with this 'cause going around the world? It's just just not support. That's all you know because there are ripple effects. That's all you really do. It's all you really need is support and understanding and recognition. You know so. That's I'm really hopeful with American society these days people actually show. Some empathy empathy, not really good at empathy. And that's all that's all families really ask for, and that's the people asked. What can you do? That's not I I. Did get that meant helped so much. You know my brothers at this day like you know people ask him if he's okay, he's A. He's a bad ass. My brother He. He took it like a champ. You know it's really my parents really feel it. You know and I and I look up to my little Bro- Since Amen Like I. Do what Smid Versity, but you know what you went through, but I'm so. We're both Europe. Buffs semi tough. I call it a little tougher than me, but. From her father. Maybe get it from my dad. Empathy and not an and I've talked about this on a different episode with with a friend of mine. WHO'S She's like. It's important to know the difference of these two words, which is empathy and sympathy, I cannot. With you and your brother because that has never happened, you can't do it. I can't say. I know how you feel and that sucks. I can't cannot do it. But I can empathize. That's the only thing I can do, and that's important to do. which is not a minimize it. Say Hey, man I can I can. I can guess at I would feel. I cannot guess how that would feel. But I can empathize say. I. Do not I have no idea how it feel, but if something happened to my brother like that. Yes I would be devastated. I mean to empathy and sympathy are two different two different things, but they're important to recognize the differences and what you can gain from those because I think you can open a bridge, you can open a door with empathy. Then and that's that's that's really it and and then goes a long way. You know like you know. It helps, it helps way more than anyone could believe them. Kind of gets into the day basically, so I was able to use that to get through PT school toward the end, and then go into my later of fills. In I was able to carry that my first job at a p of with the buffalo bills I saw it on your resume. Bills Mafia. Family, that's in. You know GTS justice jets button first job was? A little rough REX Ryan was there. Though yeah, he's no bull. But, even even that took no mindset like what I did in. L. Students do not do what I did. disclaimer so again. Nfl I had no idea what to do, but I was like all right I really want this I worked hard on sports medicine, so I went on the NFL dot com right anyone's NBA DOT com. I looked at all the TS and trainers and I'll put John Smith at hawks NBA dot com. Now so I did every team in like do not do that. They do not like that. But how at the end. But, with the bills Shawn Gibson shouts. Sean leaves with the Saints An Orleans Saints. Now he actually responded and he was like you name I repeated the email. This is the former way to apply to the NFL as a as a pizza and they don't really take on a lot of peas. No. ATC's eighties RPT's right. I was able to parlay that I told them I was interested potentially going to school. Sean, you know he's minority minority as well off and he like my story. The prisoners I went through. It shows character. You know so even if you're playing her job showing that or applying to PT School, they like showing that character about you, this is. The second time in sixteen minutes explains a relationship that has led somewhere for you that formed from a relationship. Right your high school. WHO's also. who had a great business model being down the school, but like a demonstration like the reason you worked with him, was not oximately, it was relationship, and then you told your story to someone, and he liked your story and said I'll listen to this. And it opened the door I tell people all the time. People ask me for like resume. Stay. There should be a section at the bottom for like. I don't even recall just like random stuff like I've put on there. I was a I was a high school or Middle School High School Swim. Coach and people like why you putting that on there. because. Maybe that person was the swimming coach. Maybe his kids and it's like literally a conversation starter I. Do Ironman triathlons like that on there? It's about that's about you. It shouldn't be about yours like this is my resume. It shouldn't. Be By me the way I was able to find your video about long jumping was linked in and saw you went to school at University of Albany and you're in track and field. Google your name and I found a long jumper and that's. So it's like resume. Put It on your resume. It doesn't have to be the whole thing, but there should be a little part about the bottom that really is focused on you and what you'd like. It's this random like. How do I have a conversation with so the? The resume will get you the interview. The interview gets you job. That random thing on the resume can spark a funny conversation that goes for an hour. That gets you. The job makes you stand up. I put real estate on my resume, and some people are like. Oh wait a minute. Until it does. Fill, it does. I want to throw this out there to you. So focusing on negatives will not lead to change. You've said this and. When I? Bring this up when when this comes up with anybody in your life does need to be a PT student, but Rosa do we. We do foes negative myself included. How do you respond? So like the negatives right like I. Put a tweet out there like there's always more solutions and problems right like 'cause you know. What that one problem is you have I don't have enough money. I'm not where I want to be in life and the job I want, but on the other side of how many other solutions how many possible jobs are there for you do? How many more opportunities to make more money so the solutions will always outweigh the problems. Every time because you know, you have a finite definition of what that problem is in the solutions. Or limitless. One way to skin a cat for a reason I? Sorry raised so that one problem I forget who said somebody way smarter than me, but they said if you can. If you think there's only one solution to to a problem, you don't understand the problem yet now is they're killing one solution. You kind of alluded to it in terms of solutions, outweighing problems or outnumbering problems and GT side hustles right so clinical and non clinical, so if you're sitting there, saying this was a quote that you had tweeted and it got got a little viral got a little spread around. There was some positively and negatively. Negatively actually makes things. Go further, which is early out? But it was you heard this in school. This this this line from who who is closer, my anatomy professor. Doctrine he said I think someone. Some of my class I forgot who was. An classes listen to this. Please say who you are. They're like Oh. You know. I'M GONNA. Blow up as a PT. You don't make so much money and. Business lecture of a third year school like gnarly business elections kind of going over insurance out works and he was like God. This is going to practice like you'll never be rich. Just being a PT. Even I took. Hold on I'm trying to blow up. I'M GONNA. Be Doctor Deem. I'M GONNA kill in PT. What are you talking about? was until a couple of years then I was like you know doctor was right. But? It wasn't just specific I. Mean we to be PT's PT school, but he's right. 'cause you'll not ruby rich enriching vague definite. But you'll never be rich. Just being a PT and I am the capitalize just for. You know because you just being pc that's inclined as being an employee you know like. If you're a business owner, you don't want to the pizza. Peachy and a business owner. Right and know there's a big difference between the two and. You know i. read the read. This book called the myth, and he talked about the entrepreneur and the expert, and I just reading that I was like Yo, because I worked for few clinics like in a focus so much on being the best pt. They weren't so much best entrepreneur, and those are two separate entities. Right is synonymous. You're the best to best. Is GonNa? Kill it! Now I mean those few people that find that Nice Bouncer, really great great, but like I've seen. Just colleagues just like keeps tear tottering on decide. Wow, yelm in. So, let's just pt like it's not. It's no be complaining a PTA. Could complain about insurance companies. You know you know the the public service loan forgiveness. You'll be like. Oh, we! Can. Get that. That's not their job, right? Insurance companies earned to make money so we can apply this. And we may never saw results for twenty years or you do something about it. Rolling sound so blunt about it, but. Like there's so many as a pt like we can talk about clinical side hustles like now. I was talking about a pizza podcast last week. You know one of the big things. I picked up his affiliate marketing. And I didn't the time to like a lot of outrage in PD can relate to this. So you know you have a patient wanted to exercise at home. Oh. Where can I get this equipment? You Click, may not it? You send them an Amazon Link All don wait a minute sightseeing Amazon affiliate. You'll get paid for that link. The patient GonNa buy any Liz Amazon appreciates it. They appreciate you and now they will issue. That's easy cycles. Especially patient, maybe impatient, maybe a little bit to discharge. This is like Whoa like patient. Use Hybrid impatient. Yeah, I WANNA, hyper Vul-. Unfailing some hyper bowl, get like what twenty bucks for Hyper Vol appealing to buy right safe, you saw. A piece ten patients out of the year by HIB- revolt. It was like twenty dollars doing much right pursued months. Put towards anything your savings. Like WHOA, there's there's so many over the Internet makes it so open I agree with you. There's got to be different so like because I've seen people push things too hard for that reason so as long as as long as the reason, and this is, this is probably should be should be true behind anything so long as reason behind you, saying something or doing something is true. There's no reason whatsoever. You shouldn't benefit from it right. You don't have a strong y right if you're Y is sound, then by all means 'cause. Or give you that affiliate link. Like if you're bridging the gap I'm to buy anyways. If you're selling them something, they're not interested and. Salesman knocking on the door something by this opportunity. Like. Something to do anyways, so it's like I mean you can disclose. Affiliates back. Or Sarah Bands or Equipment or dumbbells so like it's totally fine. Let them know, but like it's something that you know people like. Oh, I don't have money extra money at the end of the day you know. It's. That's simple. I think the lowest level thing you can do not changing your lifestyle, right? We're going to do it with this podcast. We talked about yesterday. Is We do and we're going to do it with you? Every gas we asked three questions, and one of those questions is a what question, so what something watched read downloaded. Whatever book movie podcast that you think the audience would benefit from I. Asked question because I like to stack personally to stack up my reading list. I like to see well people reading. E E Myth I've read that great book. But now I'm like we talked about yesterday. Like why don't we have a running lists where people can just go? Hey, I wonder what gets podcast of said. Is, there book to recommend and if they click on it and buy it I. Don't know we get a dollar now to donate that charity or we get to fund a scholarship to send a student to the next CSM. Yeah, it's just it just it just levels up. Integrated I wanted to go back before we skip this, you said focused. NEGRA negatives would not lead to change I have a rule for this. If you get punched if the world punches you in the mouth, and it will not I shouldn't say if when the world punches you in the mouth the next time. You are allowed twenty four hours to bitch about it, not a minute longer you can sulk and you can go get a beer or several beers, and you can pull the covers over your head and hide embed. You got twenty four hours running clock from the moment. You get punched in the mouth after that. Get your ass out of bed. Something Learn football short term memory short term memory. Where humans we have emotions. Emotions if you want, but a lot of expresses but short term, that's it short-term all right? Let's let's talk about some of these. Side hustles clinical and non clinical. First off something I have no idea about I know the term flipping CD shows on. TV House flipping is heart car flipping had to do this. So. Yeah, thanks like sober for PGA School I. Mean I'm Carl I've been in the car is in. My Dad is first job was a transmission. is a transmission technician so like he growing up in cars were thing. Civics new. My wife talks about like in college I had an engine underneath my dorm room debt. Yeah like. Wait what I'm just like. The car back home, trying to my car stolen out but yeah, I know right stolen from in front of my house. Crazy enough long island can't but on, but no, so yes I flipped a couple of cars in college like Undergrad after like before school beauty school. On my time and I lived in Brooklyn. Park Carney, way I mean I had a car. My Parents House, but I'm but yeah I a couple of cars. If I incidentally I had a couple of cars. Volkswagen's a couple civics. racing I was in insurance and. Having a nice clean car, kind of Mayes, wheels and stuff, but like sometimes they'll need parts from Carson, like I'm GonNa get that I mean there's Babacar you partying out, wait a minute. There's something wrong with his car. Let me just picks up and I was like. Oh, I don't need it. Let me just put it on craigslist. Car Flipping which is like you could insert anything flipping, which is if you're if you were a gymnast right now, you can be a gymnastics instructor. Yeah, you're swim coach. You'd be a swim instructor. If you know something that it would take someone this much time to learn, but you could do it in this time, they will pay you to eliminate their problem so to meet car for White House flipping. Listen I'm probably GONNA. Buy a house in the next couple of years, but am I gonNA be able to decorate it like like you see on those shows. No, so is an interior decorator like. Is it worth their time? If it makes the house, look like I wanted to look like. Yes, so if Something flip something. The big 'cause cars are big. But real estate's bigger. That's property you've done. You've done all these flips just so we're clear with the audience rental are eight flipping. Yes so like for me. It was just it was just one so far in I'm actually looking at other deal now, but I'd say about twenty seventeen. I bought a two two family enshrined York. It's upstate, yeah. No. All because I was a student in Albany. I lived in one of those like rinky-dink houses. A landlord Staten Island affect something. You know real cheap, but I'm just like. I was sitting in my dorm room. I mean my partner must wait a minute of run the numbers in. Room and seven rooms added a room was probably legal, but you did anyways I was. Making my two grand a month. When was not doing nothing like the cheap repairs and I was like all right. That's looking at the prices and I was like Oh. Wow, I'm in school. I mean looking back with a bought a house. overthink refund checks in school I. Use my refund. Check to buy some Nice. Rims for car that I had. And that's on the rooms in the car, but. Rejected by this house was living in or someone similar out killed it, but suffice for this deal and I had. Yeah. You know it's one thing about being a PT and it's like no I. Became your PT. Just stick to your day job and I was like what? SOLVING PROBLEMS! So you're looking at your own prime thing well, if this, if I can buy for X. and sell for x plus twenty percent that seems like a pretty good deal, but I feel like I feel like people need to know about the INS and outs of real estate could screw up, but if you're willing to look it up like I'm telling you like before you pay for a course or buy a book, do anything. Go to the Google machine, and if you're willing to put your time in, you, educate yourself on how to do things. Fix An engine. Flip a house anything. I and some people got Youtube University. But. Yeah, like real. You know, and you know with that one. I think the rookie tax rigi taxes. You just do something. anyways. You know you make it your some bumps and bruises, but the end of the day you may not on top. You know it wasn't. It wasn't so smug along the way so I deal I. Did you know no one wanted cheesman anything I asked everyone. I WanNa know right now. You wasted time. No real great, but you know what you're doing your PT's Day job. I'm like no I want to do this. In that conversation might professor, but it'll be riches the PTO I was like how to become rich. Real estate so yeah got it. Utd University so all these videos and and the. Honestly ended up working out. you know sleepless nights with contractors because I'm three hours away managing rehab. Bought this house, even look at it. You know just like you know about a Lauren bought the house. Fix it up. I knew handy done things around the house, growing up working on cars and stuff and I was like you know my wife has just like. The Guy, CACTUS got this. You know like not really thinking to you. Make like you know you got to believe in yourself. Because you don't believe in yourself. No one else will. Yeah. Let's talk about more one. You've talking about lot recently since I started following you on twitter, which is gain trading? So like I've heard about this and I know. Nothing about it but day trading. Walk me through it. How did you get into it? Has It worked. So I mean I I struggled truth side-hustle because of the day depending on the market, you know. We're talking about the stock market you know a lot of people are just like what does the stock market? Most bts I'm assuming half's time to? They're all derived on stocks. The collection stocks individual stocks the all based off the stock market pieces of large companies I mean of Apple Tesla. Microsoft, you name it, so I trade this is something. I picked up on my own, but I took a little bit more emphasis now on pt, but if basically just trading stocks which is the options options contracts off those kisses accompanies hundred time and Yeah, go in and out and Since not took this downtime I'm furloughed for those who don't know. New York hit pretty hard by COVID. I've been furloughed since March. Seventeenth Patrick's Day. It and then it's rough out New, York, it's a lot of jobs are not hiring because there's a slowdown. Of available people who want to come to even the were essential. No one wants to come in. You know my job. We opened up. Nobody showed up. It's one of those things you know people want to be saved. You know especially the second way so I took the initiative and I. was you know what my first act furloughs. This dudas promoting this chorus on option treating like I've done a little bit. You know just like Youtube University, but it wasn't as in depth as what I ended up my piggy. Bank of coins I bought this chorus online. Learning and since I was learning like the market, you know just like learning different things in the market. I can make money doing this. People, do this for a living shit so I'm sitting at home just now making two hundred three hundred dollars a day. That's a close. This is pretty cool and. A chiropractor buddy of mine. He's my buddies. Run his day training group. You might be interested in. He's a PT, so get a kick this he does. He's been doing this for years. Rogers PT School. He makes a thousand dollars a day. No matter what the market is going up going down and he treats patients the afternoon usually around ten thirty in the morning. We're done for the day, made it by the trades and yeah, we'll treat like do patients day to day. Like he makes way more money trading, and as a PT because he loves being a PT Right and I quote I. Put out like you'll never be rich. PT. Because I love. You know like I'm. Like it's GonNa make me superwealthy even if I owned thousand clinics. But like you know like. I had a lot of interest before school. And this still there and people that go canoeing near pt but a Mike. and. Humid. You know like I got my my scrubs on P. T. Bone. Loss I'm Kadena. Here's clean that I've noticed is that you've literally just threw everything? We just talked about through you going to school as a long jumper and triple jumper being injured. Car Flipping Leveraging Social Media Philly marketing. You've just doubled down on yourself like you you've you've never said I'll buy in on someone's paradigm or someone's thought. That's not don't take a class by all means. There's a class that can educate you if you're GONNA pay fifty bucks to learn from someone. WHO's already paid the rookie tax as you've. Have you talked about by all means let's let's take that that, but you've done yourself. Yeah, that's the lesson to me. Is? If, I have time and I'm and I'm willing to do it I'll learn day trade, or I'll flip real estate cars and the next thing that you're doing now, is you're you're doing e comm drop shipping so I've heard their option before, but I don't think I actually know what it means I. Don't I don't know what it needs. Yeah you know, and you know kind of piggybacking on that. Amazon affiliate right I was I'm sending you know. Send the patient you know this link from Amazon startles. WAIT WHILE MAKE MON store. Why don't rely on from? I'll start me get the full commission. Okay, so I was like dropping heard of hasn't members to drop shipping. What is that? What like what is? Chopped shipping essentially as a basically. Important products it could be from. It's more commonly from China and if you've heard of the company Alibaba Yep. The! Amazon like millions. Of China so basically. You running an ECOMMERCE store shop is the biggest one think facebook. Some come up with their own. You make the storefront the Internet storefront. And you don't hoping inventory of someone buys from your store, the inventory in China from China directly to your customer down the warehouses producing the product. You introduced us to me a PC and Chris Johnson running. A Zahren, PT Yes pt like. I took his courses in school and he has therapy band Zahren. Kt on it. He was again. You know this is website Alabama. Twenty, fourteen twenty. Fifteen was my rogo on K. by pennies. Forum trip to China and Mike In his course gave us all these bands. Had this band you so much? Good durable band. And I hit him up about it. 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA, Alibaba up little logo on it, and the not for pennies, and I was like Whoa. There's something going on here all on all the phones. I'm out and so yes, so now that I'm you know Gorman here because Furlough covid. Thank you Kobe. The ideas if you're going to like if you were going to say I'm GONNA. Buy I'm going to buy a one hundred pint glass right? Yes, Emma, to spend X. on them, but I got to me, and I gotTa hold them, and I'm going to hold my breath until I sell them for ten bucks a pop and then to ship them to someone else. I just paid for I've paid for shipping twice research paper she wants. Yeah. Kobe delays, things and Kobe delays things right. That is a cool concept. I liked it a lot so. I'm launching my store relatively soon it's it's it's. It's a big undertaking I. Love Projects Obviously. But. Yeah some drop shipping stories based on my pt stuff like Thera-, Gun. Bands Put, a bunch of like you know like stretching strap. Sounds like these are things like I keep! Things you already right. While I just keep it in house. So this is like my test run. I'm you follow me or any of the social platforms? We'll post when it launches. I'm still working on the Nixon accident, but I was just like the same ideals just like Oh. Why don't you just bring them in house? I mean you're the come from China, but like their bands you know especially but like. Yellow Red. The all snap, you know. It was just like they're not. They don't last that. Long I was like I could get a for pennies. Give it to my patients like the the loops I was like. Oh, like perform better as the top name brand, but like the way I. Think of it right like you go to a Bodega Deli a gas station. Look how many brands of water there are share fifteen. Fifteen thirty brands of water, but others comedies on business. I was like okay. I'm not going to be Fiji or essentially. I'm going to be like A. Nestle. Aquafina ask you know what I mean like, and it's not like I'm trying to be like money hungry. Or anything, but I was like I'm not market. Types ratio. But here's what I here's what I hear the same thing. The same theme is happening again. This is a relationship. People aren't going to buy from you. Unless relationship with you trust that much. It's a relationship. They've said listen. This guy is I understand. I understand if I buy from Dean. He's GonNa make a nickel, but that's how life moves, but. If by, but if they buy why you're doing it more than they understand it, his business, that is how that's a relationship listen. I'M GONNA. Buy this hyper volt from anywhere, but if I buy it from him. Either to discount or It's easier to get new faster or he recommended it. It's relationship building. This is the fundamental. We're the is like we're the experts that we have to wear a badge of honor. Their, ability in like I'm always doing the best was eight I'm not gonNA give them like crap. Whoever I'm getting from Asia you know I I've focusing on. Warehouses like our people have. Shipment or inventory in the US, because I'm committed biggest better, Amazon. So if it takes the Kobe three months from Asia not by from me. Too. But if they have a factor in US I'm like okay. I'll get in a couple of days. You know maybe a little bit Amazon, but you know it's me. It's like okay cool. You know, and that's like that's one of those key verticals. Oh I got to learn a new skill. Younger learn skills sales being a person with you. Too Far 'cause 'cause flipping cars, maybe a little four innocent people. Oh my God I, don't know. Stay a little much, but. Think about things you do in reverse engineer it. Reverse engineer, your student loans residents near your car payment. Like how much you this to cover that? Yep and that's the biggest things that PT's I try to. I try to reverse engineer. My student loans I try to have navy BS. Sponsor this podcast because like I'm paying you a lot of money and I. Just mentioned you a bunch of times. Could you just like wipe out one on this one like literally who my loans or like that a lot? Everything you're saying is is out. Sit will shouldn't say it's about. Sales get like a dirty like a four letter word right sales, even the word. I'm bad accounting. You're you're convincing people? You're selling people on exercise or Plan of care. And if they if you curl. Right, do that for a living, but for some reason it gets his negative connotation. There's a lot of out there Jerry Durham. Great Todd who who said listen? This is not a dirty word like this is what we do. It's the why. If. You're benching someone to buy something for a crappy reason. That's a crappy person. If you're convinced them to follow a certain path for a good reason than that is a good, that's a good reason to do that so. Everything I hear in terms of your E. Com drop, shipping stores everything I've heard of day trading in of real estate flipping its relationship building. You rebuilt an engine. And I don't have to pay for a new engine. You just say that that's a really I trust him. That engine runs great. Let's do that. I love that. I want you, can you? Can you do a hi? My name is for me and. The committee. Hi My name is Kim Oh. So, don't you? Do is hi. My name is Kim how and you're listening to P. T. podcast. Look right into the camera. Give me like your best voiceover artists. Harmony. hominem scheme how listening to the pine chaos boom? I think everything about everything you've done is is is is about side hustles. Houses are about relationships? And if you're good at relationships. Happen. We're PT's route pros at that. We treat, we touched strangers for a living and I can tell people what I do i. Or living and my best patients, the ones that are the best rapport with right. If you as a pt you meeting someone in five minutes later you having their hand in their growing. If they've got a doctor issue or you're like in their glued if That year. You can. Parts being. I think that's a relationship. It's like hey, listen, here's what's going to happen You gotTA glued issue. Okay you explaining it like, but that's a relationship builders like. Hey, here's why you're here. I'M GONNA. Explain it to you. That's education and relationship building. Using an Asian schools in school. Yes, you learn skills. You learn you know you read a text book reader article. Like. The hardest part is parlaying on information and building. Really because they don't like you like I did home care for a little bit. Oh people they don't like you. They let you weren't. Out You're, not coming back over LISA'S COW SMART. You are I. Look Back. I got there. I got taught this in school for my professor skied on of in. She said I was like. Listen I'm not going to a good pt and she's like. Why do you say that I'm like I'm not smart. I'm not as smart as all. My classmates and I'm not throwing any of my classmates bus, but she was like. Would you let all of those people touch your grandmother and I was like well. No, she's like exactly. And I was like oh it. Matters like my first job was part time. The PT Clinics and A classmate of mine is about twenty reply for the same position. I got it over her like she's applying Oh shit if she's going to get this job. She liked me. She's like. I, had you perform a couple of my coworkers and I just loved something about you connected relationship. You've got to trust that person yeah. I love when that e e commerce comes out with that drop shipping, course comes out I want to be the first person to sign up for it because that's valuable like that's providing a service. It's bridging a gap. That's solving someone else's problem. All those things were supposed to. Entrepreneurs solve problems. That's IT THAT'S IT ENTREPRENEUR S. And what do we know about solutions? They outnumber the problems. All, right bridget, let's do let's do three questions on soon. Let's see. Three questions brought to you by our friends from various medical staffing. R. US MEDICAL DOT COM. If you WANNA travel like thinking about this racket. If you were. If you work is a travel, PT Right. You get paid a little bit more and. If you wanted to every three months. You're like I don't know I, guess I'll be in Hawaii I don't know. I guess I'll be in Florida I. Don't know about not now, but like I don't know I guess I'll be in Alaska probably not right now, but like that's pretty sweet. GIG So a you are us. Medical Dot Com. It's a you are us, medical dot com first question. Three questions is aware question. You're in New York. You're in Westchester but where would you want wears somewhere in the fifty us that you would mind going for three months and just. Anything For me. It would be Santa Fe New Mexico. Very specific I liked that why. you know it's like? One of those states you forget about. You! Know it's like. A sorry Mexico Albuquerque. Even the looney tunes make fun made a Albuquerque Earn Albuquerque. But my wife, she did She Pr for Santa, Fe New Mexico and. In his sounds so cool and cultural like on bothered from like you know like from architecture, the culture, the people at the Green Chili Festival now's I would love new. York I'm using the concrete jungle. On the Metro North train, there's just like it's really monotonous the like. Tennessee Mexico's account Obvi- so naked and might just be there. You know that was one place. I'd love to be trump PT. Hang out there for a little bit of desert. He signed me up Santa Fe. You got it I can question going from what? Source for where. To. What what? Is something that you've read. Listen to downloaded. Watch something you'd recommend the audience. The audience would benefit from. I mentioned the myth. Book. Humidity Berg I mentioned another one I'd say Rich Dad Poor Dad. You know it's one of those books. It's grammatically if your grammar Nazi. That's horrible book. I don't know what it senator that book. Grammar wise is horrible. Got It. Is Horrible Mindset, though like you know if you truly like, take for what the book is saying like apply to yourself. You Know Robert, cusack. You're on a great concerns. Switch from you know I gotta be employee. Grind till I'm like sixty five because I'm a PT like I'm doing aggressive nail thirty to sixty five probably not. I. Mean there are some PD's out there doing not good for you, not me. Sorry but like he gets you in that mindset in like to anything like mindset. The Somporn to gets you going to what you WANNA. Do can't visualize. It then is not going to happen so I'd say Rich Dad. Poor Denver Shepherd at all right last. Question is who question who's someone. The audience should know more about is on purpose. Leave this like super open ended ambiguous. I'm doing non PC my Guy Chris Johnson on twitter and instagram. This guy. I started following him in Light T. Know that another another Chris Johnson. Johnson, okay, yeah. Yeah, I mean that's such a common name That's actually why. I think he's supposedly number instagram like three S.'s. It's so common okay on three or four, but no, because he's He's army that he's Super Super Smart. And he just talks about like they'll come mindset things I talk about to, and you know able scale you know the Internet and just like influence on social media in like everything talks about points usually tax like now like people were with ninety five people who like love their credit score, but got no money in the bank, so it's like more like a little financial literacy brian set and No. Steps like like like the time it's like some of the things like I thought about subconsciously, let's. put it out there on twitter and Instagram I'm just like that's. That's life in the twentieth century. So you know just as PT's outside t realm trying to learn something from someone else like a highly recommend like all right well. Did you departing shot now? Parting shot brought to you by a friend of mcadam fourth pedic physical therapy orthopedics org. We have a contest coming with them very soon. We'll have. Chris used back on the show to talk about the. 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What do you WanNa leave with the audience. basically you are now your fashion. It's up to you if you want to be, you know like a doctor, Dean but I. Necessarily pose just PT stuff I posted about my life I post about what I do by interests and Don't let anyone take that from you, you know. You can fall into imposter. Syndrome where people start doubting you like oak in your piece you. PD can do stocks not think you, can you? Can you just got put in the work and I would say is don't let your profession limited shoe from life and As PT's like I like other things I'm going to do them. And that's it nine to five dollars on the best PT. Ever come. See Me! Grand Central. It's just. It's just relationship building. It sounds like what you're doing. And that's with a patient every time in front of that patient or anybody who interacts with you online, which is why I kind of gravitated for you. It was like. When. I see him tweet, I'm like hey. 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In & Out of the Classroom with Dasha, The Curly Clinician, SPT

The WoMed

43:12 min | 6 months ago

In & Out of the Classroom with Dasha, The Curly Clinician, SPT

"All right everybody welcome back to the WO MED this week. I'm speaking with David Smallwood, a physical therapy student at Duke. She is the first PT Student Grace the woman, and this is a great episode for PT Students and anyone considering the physical therapy pathway. So. If you know anyone, send them this episode. We talk student life all things, physical therapy and mental health, and I really hope you enjoy. Has Always it's time for that nursery. Energy and I do have a doozy for y'all. This week's nursery energy comes from student nurse Murtha she writes in so I'm just a nursing student and had an insane moment tonight driving home that I really wanted to share. I was on a four lane freeway when all of a sudden I heard a bang, one car smashed into the other and flew three lanes to the right. The other car was smashed half I immediately through on my hazards and dialed nine, one one, I ran out of my vehicle to get the victims out of their cars in two of them were bleeding from their head. I did a really quick neuro assessment in stayed with them until the paramedic showed up, one girl was beside herself shoes young and terrified, and had a big Gash on her upper eyelid. I offered my hand to her and helped your breath slowly in order to calm down, so the paramedics could check her vitals. Thankfully everyone survived the crash as grateful to have been there and help these girls in a terrifying moment. By the way, a couple of minutes after this happened, nurse drove by and offered to help, I was beaming afterwards, because this is why nurses are awesome and inspire me to keep going in nursing school. Marissa, you are going to be an incredible nurse and I. Don't you ever doubt that? All right well DEJA, welcome to low MED. You guys might recognize her as a curly commission on Instagram and you are very first physical therapy student to join the wall med. Yes, I'm search cited. Thanks for having me I'm so excited. You know I'm like a little extra special excited because I I've always loved the human body. It's so cool and I've always admired physical therapists I've. Dealt with my fair share of them with. Injuries ballet injuries in the whole gamut and surgeries and I was actually between nurse. Ballerina and physical therapist with Lake. I wanted to be. Along. The Ballerina you know from all the physical therapy that I needed kind of. Kind of went away. We're. Okay Hey. We're we're still happy to have you guys nurse. We're all in the medical field together. It's fine, yes, for sure so deja tell me a little bit about yourself. You're a physical therapy student. Yes I am. Between a second year and third year we have our white coat ceremony in about two weeks and we up classes this week, so I mean I guess. Technically a second year, but I'm calling myself at third year, so you know I just am finishing up our first too didactic years, and then next year will be all clinical so. into you know being with patients every day and Being out it out of the classroom in in the hospital or an outpatient setting, so I'm looking forward to that, and then I really have known I wanted to be a physical therapist for a long time ever since I was in high school. My mom worked in a physical therapy clinic. helped. Yes, she helped me. You know. Get with therapist to shadow. I always knew I wanted to be in the medical field, but I did a lot of research into you, not going to be a nurse repeated attrition or pharmacists. I went through a bunch of different. Grew says but once I shadowed the therapists. It really stuck with me once I realized. How much time you spend with your patients. Get to build. Yeah, and you get to. See People reach goals and do things that they never thought. They were able to do so I think that's what really drew me to the physical therapy profession that's amazing and an honesty one of the greatest moments, and it sounds so silly and so small, because it's such a normal movement, but I had a patellar realignment done in high school. And my knee was in mobilizer for a month and for anyone that doesn't know like I could not bend my knee. He could not do anything with it for a solid month and additional member like cheer like my physical therapist, cheering me on when I got on the bike and it was like. Is probably a week or two into physical therapy and I finally I mean it was my seat was pretty high is finally got it to like Ben Enough that I could pedal and it was just it was. Monument is for me and just having my physical therapist there, that was like. Yes, you did it, you buy. The cheerleader I love that. Yeah. There's just there's there's so much that physical therapists can do so your mom worked in a physical therapy clinic. That's amazing. Did you have anybody else in your family? That was in the medical field that you know you kind of like looked up to idolized. Yeah, I have an aunt that is a nurse. So that was really it and my mom. She works in medical billing saw always knew about the medical field and I just knew. I wanted to go into to help people. It was just a matter of. How do I want to do that? Like what does that look like me? Nia So tell me a little bit about physical therapy. School like is that? Is it a doctorate program? It. A most. Almost all the programs right now I. Think are have moved to the doctor so traditionally it's on a three year program, and the first two years are usually strictly didactic in the third year is on all clinical, but some programs vary where you can have some clinical sprinkled into your first two years like I know, we have clinicals in my program while ones, but our main like terminal clinical experiences are our third year. Wow, instill are all the classes focussed around like anatomy, and like how the body moves, or just so I'm just so curious on what the classes. A lot of classes are i. mean pretty similar to you know what A. Physician would learner PA or a nurse or ot or anything like that, so you know we take anatomy first year we take his Yala genie we a bio mechanics, those are the basic classes that we take like during our first semester, and then after that Kinda gets more like into PT, so we take a bunch of interventions courses, we take like pediatrics and narrow, and like older adults so basically any population that you could work with pt we take. That's cool. Yeah, we take. We take basically a little bit of everything. Feel like it's a good. It's a good setup. sloughs going my another question was if it was I mean clearly like now. I know you guys have these clinical sessions, but if it was extra specialties that you had to go through like more schooling, if you wanted to work in the Nikki versus you know like a neuro, ICU or something like that? Yeah, totally so there are. Society that you need to take become certified so just a few different areas you can be certified in orthopedics, pediatrics, which is something. I'm really interested in elvic floor. Neuro, just to name a few, and you can either do a residency program, which is usually a year program through like a hospital system. it's a it's a mix between clinical work and a little bit of like schoolwork, but you're just. You don't have to pay tuition. Usually you just get a pay cut. You can either do a former residency, or you can some of the residency. Some of the licensure exams require you to have worked a certain amount of hours in that setting, and then you could sit for the exam. Oh, WOW, yeah! So what fields are you most interested? So I came into the school. Being really interested in pediatrics still am right now. Pediatrics in women's health are my to like. Go To's and thankfully got clinicals in both of those settings. Yeah I'm so excited and then actually today or yesterday I talked with the pediatric therapists, and I was telling her about women's health and she was. You know down the line. It would be good if you could do. You could do like both, so you could do like mother and you could do baby and I never thought about that, and like now that's like a seed planet in my head and I'm like ooh. Lake long-term goals maybe. I love that that's so fun. You never know lake. Or what advice they're going to instill. That's literally going to. Change Your career path or change your life. Bad like I am really thankful that my program like even though it's been online, they tried. Their heart is to still get good guest lecturers and connect us with so many people in the field like. Immune it's Kinda like we are still in school. We're still getting to connect with them. Meet so many people so I'm just grateful that we still have these opportunities to network. Our classes done then for the summer or right now electives. Second Year so we'll finish tomorrow, and then we'll get a week off. Have White coat, and then we'll be done in. clinicals will start August third. Mike Byrd, the current first years. I'm not sure I think there's a similar to ours bill. Finish up soon and get some time walk for the New Year starts, and then the new class will start as well. Man They just roll you through that. Doesn't stop no and I'm just wondering. I feel like I've been out of college for so long now. I'm like. What are our colleges changing their courses, and like how often people are in classes, 'cause we always you know. We started after Labor. Day and we were done in May, and then we have a whole summer off is starting Labor Day and. Then you're done. Now, everything to ship is so much especially with Kobe like some schools are going back to in person at all, or they're doing like a fifty fifty S. Oh, wow, interesting to see like how each school's choosing to handle. So are your clinicals going to be affected at all like? Do you guys go in with like a your whole? Class for each clinical or is it? A. One on one place in different they clinical settings. Yeah, so these that we have during our third year one on one, so my first one on. It wasn't jeopardy, but they confirmed last week that they're going to be able to have it. Which I'm so excited for. Because it is an orthopedic Public Health Split. It was one that is really looking forward to so I'm glad that back out confirms right now. Feel like the only thing that's going to change is that NASC precautions and having to wear in. Sanitizing and like how many patients are in like a clinic once is really the only thing that's going to be different, but other than that. Everything's the same, which is good. Yeah just taking time and cleaning up cleaning equipment and bolsters and. STRAPS and your bikes and all that stuff I didn't work specifically with physical therapists on an in the nick. You. Just because they were always on day shift, but just looking at like the splints, like following all the directions and stuff for care and stretching and positioning it just it was so fascinating like I just loved that. How just worked so well with what you were trying to do for the developmental care of of new? Yeah we actually got to speak with. One of the leaders in Nicu cared therapy like two weeks ago, and just like hearing her talk was amazing all the things that you can do in the nick you. Of course you have to observe, and it takes a lot of work to be able to get there and a lot of trust, be able to work with those types of patients, but it's just amazing at giving. These babies are like so fragile and I know you worked in the Nicu is just crazy. It like how much you can do, and how much you can affect their lives so early. Oh, yeah, positioning premiums is like my favorite thing on the planet. Nurses she was like I. Have to tell you one thing like the nurses are bomb in. You need to respect them and they not. Like Nikki. Nurses are great. It's just so fun like you. Just you know we have. Little Snug Leigh's and Lincoln roles or positioning beanbags and you just you know you can make it so like you're not like restraining them by any means, but you're making it really difficult for them to get their arm up to their t two or something like. Grabbing things and I mean. All Day like that just sounds like the greatest that. I definitely miss it. Those little on my gosh. Leaders pop though little is open at cheer in there like. The time to eat yet video. But. Now the health the hospital setting it as much as it's. Amazing and I love. Loved my time like working in the Nikki. I'm like. Yeah that emotional toll is. Oh, yeah, L. There. It's a lot and a lot of people. If you haven't worked in the hospital slower as a healthcare provider I feel like you just don't really get it, but once you have you understand NIA so. Are you hoping like with pediatrics to be in? Like working in the hospitals then as therapist. Yeah, that is my goal right now. My third clinicals actually inpatient pedes in they have. A history of hiring their students so. New in that setting, and it's my last slide, so that's that's the goal right now, silence. Across my fingers and toes for you. Sending out all the positive vibes Te'o. What is something about physical therapy that? You know the normal person might not know about it. The fact that you may feel like like a counseling therapist. Patients will open up to you about everything and if you. Make that good provider patient relationship with them. They will tell you things that you probably don't even WanNa know so. I think that that's one of the things you will. If you make those relationships patients, they will trust you, and they will tell you a lot and they will. Like you to now, keep their secrets than. Just like. Listen to them, yeah, a lot of people think that like pt is just all. Let's do these exercises I'll get on the treadmill. Like is just so much more than that. What's your favorite part of physical therapy? So far? I love to talk so just talking to patients is like my favorite, my favorite part building relationships, and you know finding similarities that we have. I asked my favorite part just making those relationships definitely. And to counter that what's been the most difficult part for? In school and about pursuing this pathway. I guess 'cause I tend to be very type A. Just. Being. Okay with the fact that I'm not going to know everything and I'm not going to get it right first time. That was really hard to accept especially coming from like. In High School, where always got like as like didn't really have to study then coming to school in England. Oh, there's all his information and I need to try to get you know the basics like I'm not gonNA know every single detail so I think that is something. That was the hardest the hardest to like a big heart bill for me to swallow. Man I. Bet so I'm sorry I'm just like figuring this out now. You had to do Undergrad and then like applied to PT School Yep. You do four years of Undergrad and on a lot of students apply during their senior year of Undergrad, so they can start pt school on immediately after graduating I applied after I graduated, so I took kind of a year off. And started school after being out of Undergrad for like nine months then peaking programs are another three years so. It's a lot of schooling. Wow. What did you have to study UNDERGRAD TO BE CONSIDERED? Yeah, you can study anything as long as you get the pre recs. Most people study like. Or Exercise Science, which is what I did. I actually enjoyed PC. All G not new sent me well, so that's what I'd said Major and you can literally like. Some of my classmates majored in communications or like neuro me. Honestly I would say to major in something that you think you can accelerate and you bike, 'cause you can get the recs done. Wow, that's so cool. It makes you more well rounded person like you don't want everyone to come from the same background so. No, and then I mean they can all bring their insights from their Undergrad, and you know it's just A. It's like a more well verse meeting Melting Pot of. Of Mines, Bagley! Yeah So. What did you do with your year off? Yes so I moved home, and I just worked I worked retail, which is a job that I had since sixteen, but I was like I need some time off, so I just yeah wome and worked a little bit. I started my blog in my instagram account and you know. I edited essays for Pre PT Students, but mainly I just took the time to rest before school started because I knew that these three years. We're going to be hard and they were GONNA fly by. Cut so important. I feel like as high schoolers graduating seniors are. At least in America, we are pushed so hard down the. The college path like right away you know, and in so many different countries. It's like Oh, you can take a gap year like go and travel. Go Work for a bit. Earn some money. See what you WanNa do because I mean I I feel like I'm. One of the few people that was like now. I know what it'd be nurse. This is my path I'm GONNA. Go right to it. But, then you know I burned out a bit and I took a year off in goalie switch I. Mean I'm still an interesting field, but I switched directions there. I just think it's so important to. Like recognize that you know and take that space for yourself. Yeah, and I feel like a lot of times in healthcare profession medicine everything bills like competition and a race like you have to get it done as quick as you can, but it's going to be there. You gotTA. Do it. You feel is best, and if that means taking a year or two or three off like do it. Yeah, like your credits aren't going anywhere. Your school mindset might take a minute. To get back into. I've toyed with the idea of going back to school, but part of me is just like. do you really want to? Like okay I'm done with school like this. The last time ever going to be in school and I'm like. Let me not say that. Because Watch some happened and I'm like. Oh, I want a PhD. Even though that seems not like something, I WanNa, do but I just I never wanna say never because the I. Don't know what's going to happen in the future. To be out of school for a while and into the workforce. No I think that's awesome, yeah! All right, dear ones believe it or not. A lot of kids are missing score right now. especially as we are heading into summer break, so listen close if you know a kid learning at home. I found Kiko will was looking for a present for my friend's daughter. I got the cutest video of her interacting with the crate, and making letters and putting them in her little mail bag. I actually got one of those sweet little letters in the mail a few days later. Huey Co is so awesome. They can deliver a science, fair or art class. Right to your door. Amazing activities to work entertain the kid, brain or kids at heart. There are different crates for different age groups interactive activities to fire new neural pathways in ages, zero to two or fourteen to one hundred and four. Your child can get super cool hands on science and art projects delivered to their door every month. What kid doesn't love to get mail. You'll be surprised at how high quality the materials are to. These are real engineering, science and art projects for children. 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So I did that so yeah? My blog has tips for preview tease I share my experience through PT school are so dabbling a bit a lifestyle, but I really WANNA help students that don't have the resources maybe to you know, find mentors in their area or a lot of UN. Is. Berry are very white. There are only five percent. Are Black so really. Yeah, we're very under represented. So that was another reason wanted to start. You know my platform and my blog. Yeah Up, find those students and let them know that like you can be a pt like it doesn't matter. Just let them know that their opportunities there and just because. They don't see someone that looks like them like they can be that experts, and so I just want to be like a source of would vacation and representation for increasing diversity in the field in an healthcare general. I love that town. Gots, that's so important and I've I've said it before on the podcast like we really need to to start. Diversifying, healthcare and amplifying these voices because it's just there's just room at the table like every like. I don't WanNa. See People held back. You know I want people to see themselves in well especially on the podcast and anyone that comes on here. I, want them to be like Oh. Hey, like me and I've really been thinking about physical therapy, but I never saw someone that looks like me. Wow, there's stage. Oh, man, okay I can do. This guy asks the drain. Yeah, and just like. Are you wire your providers to reflect your patient population like our patient? Yes, Asians are so diverse, so you know. Healthcare providers should eat as well. Yes agreed one hundred percent. Because then you're you're therapy is going to go that much better. You know like if you don't have these if you're comfortable, if you if you see like a piece of yourself in the person that's caring for you like you're. You're. Healing is going to be like that much better. Yeah, it really does make a difference. I think that's so cool that you're offering all these services and stuff on on your blog. That's. was like writing always kind of like a passion for you to that. You're that you excel in that area or yeah, I think. I didn't realize how much I enjoyed writing until I started. I started instagram and my captions just became too long and. Why is there a limit? I'm like okay, I should probably just tried to do this block thing. It's something that all always been in the back of my mind. I was like okay. I have a year off. This is my time to. Commit to it and really see if again do so. I started and I, don't know if she's crazy. How? I start like okay. I'M GONNA ride a block about this, and then how can just start writing in the words? Just come and. Like I don't have to do that. Much planning is just like in my head, and it just comes out so I really I really enjoyed the writing it's. It's nice to. Just. Tell my story and you know. Let other people know what's going on in my life, and it makes me feel like I'm not so alone in this in this world. Yeah, so I feel like I'm hearing a lot of hats right now with my blog, my instagram but I enjoy it and I'm so glad that I took that leap during my year off to start. Well from the outside, looking in, it just looks like you're thriving and so. And I feel like. Everyone that I've interviewed or you know talk to in the medical field. We all have these side hustles. A lot of people are blogging or their. embroidering things in there have like an Oetzi shop of this or they're. Completely switching gears everyone's. Everyone's got something else, and it's like yeah, physical therapist, but I'm not just a physical therapist. I can also do this. There I'm not a nurse I can also do this. No one in the medical field is really put themselves in a box at least that I've spoken to like everyone's. got another hat that they wear. Yeah. I love it too I mean we're all multifaceted individuals like were not just our profession. We have lives outside of that, so it's nice to be able to explore that and share that people especially incoming. Students that want to join the medical field. Just knowing that like you can still do other things like it doesn't have to be your whole life. Yeah Yeah and I think that like when he focused on something too hard. It just becomes your soul identity. and. You can get really stuck in that like and if that doesn't work out for you for whatever reason. Ami Like I face that a bit after I left Nikki Oh and I was like people be like so how does it feel unhappy in nursing more and I'm like? I'm stolen hurts. Working in Nick you. Just switching career paths. So hearing you talk about writing. It's just I. I'm very similar in that. I love to just word vomit when I'm when I'm writing. If something needs to come out, it'll come out, but I envy you in that like. I have to like set up. Topics and then like really just cleared all the distractions and be like okay. This is what I need to write about right now. I've never been. The like super like free flow writer. It's always been if something has. Affected me and I'm like writing as my first Goto to to try and get it all out. Yeah. It's definitely the more I've done it. The easier it's become, and it's like a nice outlet just to. Get my words out there, so get my feelings out, and then I'm like. Oh, I feel better like wrote it down. It's fine. It's not I'm ahead anymore I. Don't have all these tabs. Yes. Oh, writings great totally recommend it for anybody out there. journaling all that could just started gratitude journaling, and it's the best thing I've ever done. Oh tell me about. This is like a prompt or So I don't know if you've heard of the five minute journal I. Really like it. I got it off like Amazon and they had like a website and every day they had like a weekly challenge monthly challenge, and like like a quote you can read, and then it starts with like I'm grateful for then you have three spots right that what we're make today. Great response stroke that than daily affirmation, so you would say like I n blank, and then ask for morning, and then at night You have a spot for three amazing things that happened today and Ben. How could I have made better and I feel like when I'm consistent with my gratitude, journaling and just. Being appreciative of what is going on in my life, like are just a much happier person. Oh I love this now now it's it's my favorite thing. Is You've got me hooked I'm about to go and Amazon this book right now. I love it. It's called the five minute journal also the. Journal Okay Free Plug. If you WANNA sponsored, the podcast to that's great. was giving something she's. This is not an ad this is. Just is just what we like. Mandala just that could be something could help with burn out to our. Yeah, actually it was suggested by my counselor I think I mean are started with anxiety, but it really your. We had during my first year PT School, and one of the things she suggested was to journal, and I tried it was just like an empty journal. Just like free. To right, and I wasn't successful with it, but once I got this like prompted journal. It really helped me stick to it. In note I needed to write down. That's awesome in you know. Don't please don't feel ashamed of that. We have therapy here. It's a good to know yeah. There were an are I mean especially for me. A lot of moments of you knowing city with nursing because it's like you're, it's a life you know you're. You're holding life in your. And, even I remember being so scared to win at like a parent would call and to give updates, and I'm like why. Why was I so terrified of? So I think that's great that you reached out to a counselor in to you know, take care of your mental health and stuff in school. Because I think it's, it's just so important. Yes, actually even got on medication for the first time of day, and it has been a game changer and I've not shamed about it. No I just feel I'm such a better person. When I am you know gratitude, journaling and doing what I need to do, and taking my medication regularly I just feel like everything is balanced Oh. Yeah, and there's no shame that I mean like meds the. meds work great and especially if you're. Working with. A doctor that you trust in New Your Agree with her prescribing styles, and you know it's. It's a work in progress. He might not find the right mad. Right off the bat, but like once you do get really. It helps kind of balance everything else. You can just function better nuno. In your happier your healthier. Yeah, that's that's the biggest thing. I was like so afraid like not to take these pills. It's okay if I have to have a little help to get everything together like there's nothing wrong with that known expect you'd be able to do everything on grown so no and nobody does do everything on there. There are always people helping or things helping yes. No I love that I. Respect you for that and thank you for. For sharing that on on the podcast 'cause. Well Yeah I I've definitely sought out counseling. I have a therapist I have been on meds before. Will, I got on the master. Fiance had passed away, and I was like I. Just I couldn't function you know and I. Knew I needed something to help me so. You know taking. Taking care of like your mental health is just. It's so so important and it. Should not be shamed at all. Yeah so so for like you said Yeah. I interviewed a girl in the podcast. That nurse Sarah said it. She's like after you know. Towards like the nursing school I started preemptively seeing a counselor therapist to help me. figure out ways to prevent burnout, you know, do like self checks and stuff with myself and I'm like that's amazing. That's so so forward thinking I love that. Get it before it gets bad yes. It's just checkups. It's great. It's going to the doctor. Yearly, physical or whatever I mean, don't make therapies yearly, but you. Check in when you need it. So data, what's next for you like what? What's the next big thing you're working on? Honestly don't know I feel like right now. especially with you know time off from school and like just working from home with school I've been just really trying to pour all I can into my blog, my instagram account and just redesigning people as I can so rudely just like taking my eye. Blogging to the next level is something that I really want to do so that that's what's next for me. Hopefully, I'm really I've been doing a lot of research and listen to allow podcast reading. Just how to grow in impact where people? Well that's amazing I will definitely be sharing this and linking your website and instagram handle and stuff in the show notes and. Share it on the Willamette I'll share it on my personal pages well, too, because I just I really believe in the people that I've had the pleasure of speaking with, and I want to see them grow and I. think that's part of what women need to do is as far as empowering each other. You know there's. Like I said earlier we make. There's space for everybody and. We're ultimately going to be a stronger force for good if we're all trying out each other out, don't like there's room for everybody and Mike, every different people resonate differently with other like everyone follows for different reasons, so as someone follows me doesn't mean they can't follow you to like might find. They might follow us or similar. Things are different things, but like it's okay like we all win here. Yeah, you might offer a different perspective than I. Am able to you know, and I think you've done. Iztok, everyone's instagram really hard, 'cause just a great way to get to know people nowadays. It is. But you're you're pages so good? It is so filled with like. Helpful Tips I love that like you know with the with the writing program in helping people out with their. Essays and stuff like that and. You're like no. These are like fair prices. This is what I like. My time is worth because. I. Know this field and I know this writing so. Now's really nervous about that. Because there's so many people that are overcharging and I'm like he's pre PT. Students don't have like a lot of money like understand like you know. Your time is valuable, but again over on them is. They're going to trust you and. Yeah it's just it's just like a fine line to. Balance on the well. You're doing an amazing job of it and. I I love that. That's out there and available because I've obviously never. I have yet to seek out advanced. degrees. But I love that, that's something that people are sharing now and have as like helpful resources, because some people aren't aren't gifted with writing. Some people don't know how to start writing something and to have someone like you there that. Has Been, there knows what people are looking for, and can offer like timing advice, and you know editing and stuff on things is it's invaluable. Well. Deja, this has been an absolute pleasure. Oh, yeah. I very much hope to meet you in person and get to talk with you more. Let's see what last physical therapy. Piece! Can you give wh? What advice do you have four physical therapies people thinking about physical therapy and. Yeah. What advice the offer for people thinking about the physical therapy field? Yeah, just say the best thing to do is shadow shadow in more than one setting, because every sending is different, and if you just look if I would just shattered an outpatient Ortho, I've probably wouldn't have gone into physical therapy, so just like know that there are so many different avenues and ways to be a therapist, so try to just find different settings to shadow. St Research in yeah. You'll, be, great. That's really great advice, and that's something I tell a lot of nursing students to is that. They're like well. How do I know what field I WANNA be a really WANNA be in the nick? You and I'm like. We'll shadow in the nick you. Like well, how do you do that? Well? You dig around on the Internet and find emails for. Managers on the unit. See One at checkout and and. Inhabit Whoa is that similar four people looking into physical therapy lake for shadowing. It's about the same you just find a clinic or a place in. The right contact, and if not bill directly to who you know you can speak to. It's a lot of a lot of trial and error like some. Places have like a like a program shadowing places on get a lot of people that WANNA shadow, but other smaller clinics. Just you can go in and asked or call or send an email. Yeah. I think a lot of people are like well. Can you do for me like I think there's a lot of people that? Don't realize that. You still have to put in some legwork. Yeah, and you want them to know you, so yes, yeah, and and people especially if it's a place that you might ultimately want to work at. Showing up like meeting, people leaves a better impression than just sending them an email and be like. Hey, can I come in and shadow? You know like now. Take the time go in. Put some legwork in. You'll be better for it. Yes, cinema resume. Tell him a little about yourself like you got to humanize your spouse. They can know that this person behind this email Israel. Yes, I feel like. People are just losing that human element. Yeah reach out to people and thank you cards. Thank you good. See you cards the. Notes are the best. They really are like L. Woods, and like her like you like spraying it with perfume gives extra. It really makes drew. You stand out in. You remembered he neuter. Hey, you like Ping, do it. If you like green, do it. But either way just like finding away for yourself to stand out. And but like authentically you know you wanted to be like. Oh, yeah, here's the thank you. Card will sup. Leaders and Yeah Yup. It's the right opportunity you know it'll work out, and if it's not right opportunity you'll find. You'll find the right opportunity for you. Yes? Ideas, or why don't you tell everybody again like where they can find you and connect with Ya? Okay Yeah so you can find me on. INSTAGRAM is probably the easiest at be curly clinician, or my blog is the curly clinician dot com, or if you'd like to email me, It's just the curly clinician at gmail.com. Perfect. Well these, thank you again. It was so nice speaking to you. Yes thank you for having me. This was a good time, and it was just nice to just sit in. Not Be schoolwork and just talk in not have. An actual. A business new get done, just be able to. Flow be free. I love that. Everyone make sure to check out. Her website instagram all the good things. Down clearly like a very open person and Here to help people I I love everything you're doing I want to see you succeed. And Yeah I'm just I'm just grateful. These conversations are so great. I know that you're helping. A lot of people who come to the podcasts looking for. You know. Just seeing themselves represented, or you know information just on on school, so that's I was really excited to have a PT student on just to kind of talk through that experience because we do. Have people that listen that are like you know undecided about clearly WanNa make. So. Surrounded I could be that resource. I'm so glad you reached out to me. Me Too I'm glad I found your page, and now hopefully more people will to. Yet. So that's that's plan. That's what's GonNa Happen. Things again, thank you. I hope you'll have fun learning more about physical therapy. Make sure to follow along with Deja on Instagram at the curly clinician and her blog, the curly clinician dot com for all the resources for PT students in lifestyle. Keep sending me your nursing. Energy moments and moments that make you feel empowered and moments of self, work and discovery. Thank you for tuning in and listening every week I love you guys. TILL NEXT WEEK WALL MED out.

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Playing to DPT Students Strengths with Megan Moran

PT Pintcast - Physical Therapy

37:20 min | 10 months ago

Playing to DPT Students Strengths with Megan Moran

"Am is happening. April third and fourth annual Orthopedic Meeting from the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapist. This our big conference this year focusing on head spine and shoulder disorders integration over isolation. Check out more information at Ortho. Pt Dot Org. This conference is for. Pt's residents fellows PhD students and yet deep students. Who Want to get a little ahead of the curve from the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapists Meeting feature a great general session. Followed by breakout sessions. Each day April third and fourth interactive sessions. You're going to be hands on along with panel discussions to get some. Qna to end each day attendees will have opportunities to attend. All breakout sessions this year at the annual orthopedic meeting April three and four mall of America in Minneapolis. Saint Paul from the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapists find out more at Ortho. Pt Or. We have all of the frank within us so we just pull from some more than others so if you take the assessment and you get your top five they would say that those are the five things that you use that make you successful. Make you energize at work. They also don't want you to say that the ones that aren't in your top five or your weaknesses. Because they really focused on their all strengths of how much you pull one versus the other fellow Marymount Saint Megi Moran comes on the show today. She's a professor at Marymount. University also works in. Clinical practice also helps out labs also gives presentations at Major conferences with the starting to pick up. What I'm putting down. Yeah she's like kind of like me where she likes to dipper. Total how to different areas net. Fun when you do that. Yeah people like us like you do that. It is fun is exciting variety such a spice as we get into something that Meghan did at the Education Leadership Conference. That's a big conference really focused around. Pt Education and clinical education. And she she presented on this thing that she did with her students kind of focusing on their strengths. It's really it's an outcome measure for PT terms. But it's focused on personality and how she used that to group her students and what she found out when she did that. And how you might be able to use it to. It's pretty cool. Take a listen that episode and you'll learn Meghan learned in what she presented at. Elc episodes brought to you by Owens recovery science there single source for PT's looking to add personalized blood flow restriction rehabilitation training into your clinical skill. Set and do it properly and safely. That's the most important part they have not only the certification classes going on worldwide. They've got the equipment you need to apply it so find out anything you didn't know about how far the research knowledge how to get signed up and registered and certified and the equipment needed to apply all in one spot. It is Owens Recovery Science Dot Com. The best conversations happen at happy hour. Welcome two hours for this is the P. T. Typecast here's your host physical therapists. Jimmy McKay thank you thank you. We always like to start the show by saying thank you for listening telling a friend via social media or in person. Both of those things are really valuable. To show is. Free will always be that way but if you do WanNa pay it forward Just telling someone what you learned about or what was valuable and sharing that content. That's the best way to say thanks. You WanNa leave a review on itunes or spotify or Google. Play wherever you listen to the show. That's nice to not just for the autistic reason of you guys leaving a positive by all means leave a truthful review but it lets us know why you're listening to the show what you found. Valuable Tho. Those sorts of things can help us bring you more of that thing so by leaving review and telling us what you think and what you liked. You're really helping yourself see what I did there. I just trek to you in living review on itunes. So do that for us and Thank you for listening today. We're GONNA talk to a A fellow marymount saint where I went to. Pt School She gave a presentation at ELC. That's education and leadership conference and It it captivated me because it's something very very different. And if you don't think about me you know I like different. Meghan Moran is on the show. Megan welcome to the program. Thanks Fella Marymount. Saint you get to be a professor there but your physical therapist also Med star sports medicine. You get a pretty good gig right yeah. I'm very lucky. Great Gig so assistant professor at Marymount University and then still working. Some in my summers From Ed Star and actually get to mentor their resident to the residency program. That's cool you're like me. You got a little toe dip into a couple of different things and that for me and some someone like you. That's the variety. Spicer life thing that keeps us going right helps prevent the burnout and yes really fun and challenging challenges let What classes do you get to teach him out? I teach our modalities course and peachy as a manager as well as helping with orthopedics curriculum primarily with Ankle and then I do. You know 'cause I like to do a lot of different things I can help and some other labs and case study or case reports now a little bit all over the place. You just proved my point variety of the spice life thing just continues pretty much anywhere anywhere you go all right so I was lucky enough to take a trip out to the education and leadership conference and I bet you. There's a lot of people out there who don't know about this conference so I'll I'll give a brief background and you correct me if I'm wrong on what this is so. Elc bring it together. Watch a lot of different people from physical therapy education whether it be professors Dc has a lot of people in and around the world that decides curriculum in physical therapy programs across the country and this is kind of their super bowl you know for lack of a better term and they get together and talked about it in the last one was just in in Washington state. Did I some that uprise. Elc Is it is and also for clinical instructor so You know someone's a full time clinician. But they're taking students into the clinic. There's a lotta great programming there for them as well perfect. So that's not a world that I'm in which also intrigued me so I got a chance to actually go to some of the programming do some interviews and we share some of those but one of the programs that I got to sit in on was Was Yours so teleported like kind of what the title was and what the big idea behind it was. The title of our program was designed better group experience for students using strength finder and the premise behind it was. How could we use this tool of strengths finder to make group work more effectively on in our program? That may be good now. Let's go big people heard that word like what's what strengths finders and. That's what I knew it. I guess they changed the name. It's now called Clifton strengths. Which is the organization that was kind of behind creating it? So you'll give the give the thirty seconds spiel. What Clifton Strang's also known as strengths finders what it is. It's an assessment tool That it's youth across many different industries business. Schools Medical Schools Pharmacy schools and those industries. As well not just for the education purposes But cool where someone will find out what their top talents are. What their top strengths are and these are strengths. That we use in our day to day life whether it's our personal lives or our professional lives and things that really motivate us and hope exceed. Just cool. That's that's a good description when you're saying strengths. Let's get more specific because this is. This is more refined. This is more focused than saying will. Jimmy likes to talk a lot. So he's an extrovert so that's his strength because well there's probably a lot of things that go into making an extrovert and that's really where. I think the strength finders starts to kind of narrow down on the the real specifics of someone's personality and their personality strengths. Yes absolutely so they consider. There's thirty four of these talents or strength and they also call them seeing him and they fall within four different domains and so one of the domains for example. Jimmy as relationship building. So that's people that like to form connection pull people together and within that domain. There are several talents that fall within that to me and we're finding that that's an area where. Pt Students have a lot of their drank. Which makes sense for what we do that. Yeah so you talked about those domains. You mentioned relationship. Building number. Three will be influencing executing and strategic thinking. So this is like you know like you mentioned like business schools and industries taking taking these These this assessment tool this an outcome measure this is now measure for personality for for better or worse right yes and they they wanNA look at it mostly for better because what they think at Clifton is that we have all of these strength within us but we just pull from some more than we post mothers so if you take the assessment and you get your top five they would say that those are the five things that you use that make you successful. Make you energized at work. They don't want you to say that the ones that aren't on your top five or your week says because they really focus on their all strengths. Just how do you pull versus the other all right so I think we've given a premium? Yeah that's that makes complete sense. I think we've given a pretty good overview in terms of what Clifton shrinks is designed to do in terms of an assessment tool. I took this before. We'll get into my results later on shot kind of I'm kind of interested in your insight into what my results have to say but you took this a step further. Not only taking it yourself. You brought this into education and you gave it to. Some of your students talk about that. Yes so we're lucky. We have a strengths coach here at marymount university so she really was the one that introduced it to us. she is within the business school so This is something that she works on. A what but we decided to use it and our peach manager class where students work in a group project for the entire semester. And some of the things that we were seeing at Marymount that made us want to use it was some ineffective group work even though we are a problem based learning school some high anxiety and just some lack of student cohesion within one of the cohort. So we brought into the class. You didn't take the assessments and then we actually used it to them into groups specifically for this project. Well so really putting putting the US the strength of strength finders in because I can imagine especially as as an educator you're sitting there with a roster full of students and you probably knew some of them Kinda but maybe you didn't maybe didn't have a lot of interactions with many of them and even those interactions probably just in the hallway or in a class or in a lab. How are you going to group those people together that you're Gonna? They're going to get the most of each other and they're gonNA feel like their strengths are being utilized and in the past it was just kind of random and this at least is allowing you to somehow break that down and try to piece the best teams together. Yeah exactly and I mean certainly self selecting groups works well for something right. We do some random group assignments for the problem based learning. You know one of the critiques. That people would say to me as well if you're people in the perfect groups for this class. Is that really real world experience which no because we never know who we're GonNa work with and what talent are co workers but it was an opportunity for us to highlight certain talents and force pool out talent. They were lacking on their teammates. I feel like at some point during this episode. We're GONNA use the word. Which is what I hated in. Pt School. But since I've graduated I actually like it and do it which is reflection. I'm sure there's a lot of self going on there absolutely and that's something that I'm focusing on more this semester. Because I'm using the same design again. I think that's something I didn't do. Great the first time I use that was to have. The students really reflect on where their strengths are. What where they were lacking a little bit more and how they could leverage their the rest of their co workers to have that strength and to make them successful so this year. We're GONNA get you a lot. More reflection graduated from marymount. I loved being sarcastic at loved reflection so much. I wanted to buy the school a mirror and say now you can reflect upon yourself but the funny part is now that I'm graduated doing some different things in profession. Actually find myself reflecting a lot. I think it's really helpful. So timid they were right. We'RE CLAVERIE POT. You something there you go all right. So so what did you do? How did you actually put this into play kind of walk? People through how this assessment to a works how you then kind of sorted people out in terms of groups and what you've found sure so we actually started as a student entered the program during their orientation we ask them to take the the online assessment. And it's a thirty minute quiz that you only have so many seconds to answer questions that you have to be focused and ready to go and they did that and then when they got in my class. I haven't fill out the paper that asks them. Okay what are your top by strength from strengthened or tool and then I asked him some other questions like are you feel really strong and writing a paper or designing a powerpoint or doing a presentation because all about is part of what was involved in a project and so I wanted to groups to be a nice mix get easy for the students This I go round so when I looked at all of their strengths. I wanted to have you. Didn't sit had relationship building as strength. So maybe harmony or empathy so that they could kind of bring their group together and make sure that everyone worked as a teen and there was no outsider within the group. I also wanted to have individuals. Make sure the work done so strang. Such as responsibility or achiever were really important to have within each group and then we look at some other areas of strength just people that would really get excited about taking the project idea and making it the best that can be involved some of those strengths within each group as well so to date myself to complete date myself. You're looking to create the a team right you were looking for BA. In Hannibal and face man and Halloween and some people are listening and they have no idea who I'm talking about but you're looking to create a well rounded team. You're you're trying to make sure that you had an expert kind of each of these domains to make sure at least part of these domains were represented each group exactly but not all of them actually so for this project in particular. We didn't worry about having anyone from strategic spent Yank okay Which is one of the domains and the thought process behind. That was just based on what the project was which was designing business plan. Now some people would say well you should be strategic with that and yes if you're going to actually carry it out That would be important but for this project working with our strength coach. She really made the recommendations of what strength. We should focus on to get out of it what we were hoping to. So when she does it and the business school she wants. She uses competitive team so she wants someone that's very competitive on each team and individuals that are really strategic thinker. D- just a little different way of doing it depending on what kind of project you're working and we'll circle back now. Is You have someone who not only believes this method but had some advanced training in terms of now how to apply these strengths to things like a business school or things like a PT school program. Someone at Marymount University who kind of got a bit like advanced knowledge in how to piece things together what they actually mean a little more got Dr Linda Christie. I'm in our business school. I took extensive training. I WANNA say a week long flow and has a lot of different resources that we can use and I know there are a lot of strength. Purchase out there at different universities. So someone's listening. And they want to learn more about it. They might reach out to their university and see who might be involved. Yes something good to have in your back pocket in terms of wow. This could be pretty cool so all right so we went through what you did. Is there anything else? The audience would need to know in terms of how you went about formulating their team. Or did you pretty much summed up right there? I pretty much summed it up there. I think it's important for individuals though to recognize that importance of telling your teams what the strategy was behind it and then making sure they recognize the different strengths that are on their team. So so these right. They weren't playing poker with their with their seems. Everybody would kind of had him on the table and they were. Kinda wear them like a badge of honor like these are my five strengths. These are my themes exactly and actually did make them wear name tags that have their five strengths online. And then we go through some different activities that look at what the positives are of each of these strikes but also Jimmy individuals can be seen negatively based on ranks. So I can't give you an example So for myself. I'm one of my strengths is achiever and so that means that. I like to have a to do list and I like to cross off my list so I can see what achieved and that can be great because I can be very organized and get a lot done however you might look at me and say oh. She puts too much on her plate. So that could be viewed negatively by some people outside of my network so we talked about those within our groups because it brings to light. Maybe why you view someone not always in a positive light. You might be recognizing strength that they're overusing and not managing it. Yeah no I've run into this in my personal career working with Fox rehabilitation in the Communications Department. I fully say when I go into a meeting because typically on the only person who's kind of like me and I say listen. I am a Bona China Shop. Won't we haven't we have a problem. We need to solve but just recognize that my bone China shop mentality is to throw as many ideas as possible to see what strikes and then we'll focus on one but some people might look at that like me like he's all disorganized. He's all over the place. He goes a hundred miles an hour. So I put that out there. Let people know like? Hey I recognize this about me but trust me in the end. It'll work all so when you put your teams together. You structured in the right way. Use their strengths. Their themes organized your teams and put them into class and just review what the assignment is for. Pt As a manager for some people who might not know so we do a business project with our students each year they get to pick what type of PT or health business. They want to start and they're trying to do things like looking at the organizational chart on doing some budgeting for a year looking at how many employees they want what are their. What's their mission statement? What are their long term goal putting resumes together so it's not a full business plan but it has some bits and pieces that can really help students and why managers awesome to do things went there in the world world. I like it good insights a PT as a manager. That's the class that you're teaching and putting these students through and what happened. What did you find? Well I I found some really great things and then I found some areas. I need some space so I I found that the students really thought about their strengths and the strength of those on their team. They had some really good insights. They thought they all worked really well together. And then they were able to utilize the strength when they went out into their clinical and we talked a little bit about that. The areas that I can improve with it was not making strength as a parent to every group so I think some of our students recognized. I was using their strength. And they on their own. You so Their strength but I didn't kind of pro interface a lot that remember. You have these strengths. I want you to be thinking about them and using So some teams in the reflection pieces. We're talking about. They didn't use their strengths at all and they didn't know what their team's strength for. So that's how I'm changing it to make it better this year by kind of what we already talked about and talking about whereas positive about your strength. How could someone view it negatively so all? The teams did well on the project. They all had good grades. But I think from recognizing how to use strength. There was married. I need to improve. That's good that's good reflection Meghan. Well done right. I know love the PT Pine Cast. Yes yes the show by telling a friend or by leaving a review on nineteen or Google play. New Step created the first of its kind twenty-five years ago. That was the new step. Recumbent cross trainer. Now it's a mainstay in Rehab. 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You know in in in academics now standing in front of a room full of people who might have been doing it for ten twenty thirty years but was it like presenting to To your colleagues in that that's a pretty big stage. It was a big stage. I was really excited but five assigned may certainly helped as well. She likes alledgedly. She does but it was motivating and the group was really engaged about was helpful. Because I didn't have stairs looking back at me and I I you were there so I made it interactive too Because no one wants to sit and listen to anyone. Talks or right on forty five minutes or whatever so there was a lot of good feedback. I've actually received some emails from individuals. Trying it in their curriculum now and you know asking me some for some pointers so overall. I think it was very positive. Any of those jump to mind any any good questions or things that made you think. Because I'm sure there were some people who said. Hey I've never heard of this idea. But what if for did you do this or how about next time? Anything those things resonate with you. I guess one of the most recent ones that I've had is what if I don't have enough of this type of strength and my class to have each group hop one and when that happens as it does we just kind of ignore it and one doesn't have that shrank the weather you know the maximize the developer because again. It's making it realistic in some way you know every PT team you work on or maybe every healthcare team you work on. You'RE NOT GONNA have this beautiful mix. I drank so it's just recognizing that you have and then using that to the best of your advantage and that's probably the mix of the makeup of a of a good team is recognizing where your strengths are learning how to maximize those you. Did you did mention that earlier in this episode. Which is if it's not in your top five. It's not saying it's a weakness but we'd like you to focus on these strengths. These are probably the things that you're drawn to right. I mean you mentioned that. One of the the the the areas that domains was relationship building and not shocking students tend to have a lot of the characteristics of relationship building. So you know you're drawn to that these are the things that make you get excited and want to jump out of bed so play those strengths exactly and maybe Jimmy for your listener. Humping that might help them understand. Their strengths is is if they think back to like last week. Whether it's at all or work think about something that made you feel strong or accelerated and what that activity was and that might help you stand. What one of your strengths is? So whether it's being organized or Making new connections at a networking event and things like that. Yeah play that I like that. That's a smart all right so now this is completely completely personal to me. Is I want you to take a look inside my brain. I'm GonNa give you my phone five themes you tell me if it makes sense like I'm having my palm. Read by Mega Moran here on the show so mine fell into one two three domains I had. I had to strategic thinking which blew my mind. They were actually my first two strengths. I also had to influencing and one relationship building so we'll go we'll go in reverse order right five to number one one being my strongest. Is that how it works? Yeah okay number. Five in the relationship building domain. I had individualization. What's that mean? So individualization is and I'm going to read this directly from the Gallup so People exceptionally talented individualization theme or intrigued with the unique qualities of each person. They have a gift for figuring out how different people can work together. Productively I mean I guess I can see a lot of these are like also they make you feel good right because the first sentence is like people exceptionally talented. And you're like yeah that's me. It's like what I'm reading my horoscope. It's like a Scorpio is very. It's like absolutely I want to identify with that. I guess I can see this because a lot of my work is project based and typically. I'm working with people from a bunch of different areas and domains and skill sets and I do find it fun when we can make everybody fire on full cylinders. I I do like that. Yeah now what do you think could be like something that would see it as negative about home man flipside? I'm intrigued with unique qualities of each person. They have a gift for figuring out how different people worked. I don't know what could be the opposite of that. What's bad well bad but you people could perceive it or if you overuse that moving your other That you're sacrificing what the group needs for your own gain. I can see that alright yard so I'm starting to see the opposite or how it could be perceived in a different way so make sure that realize it could be looked at differently and to make sure you use that strength well number four came from influencing the number four number three both came from that the influencing domain four was communication. My Mom and dad are excited because it paid a lot of money for a degree in mass communication gland on their good yes So for the communication team and maybe here to Jimmy. We should tell people that these strength in other words are weird in terms of you want go into an interview and say oh well I have the strength of belief or the strength of command so if someone is using this they should learn how to describe these without necessarily using the word. That the Gallup okay team gives you but anyway for Communication. So you're good at conversation am presenting which definitely you are right. You the best two others and about Paul's right into your wheelhouse. I like it number three. This is a word that I love and I've used before but a lot of people don't know it wou- oh you're wonderful so yeah people be like what does that mean so you get satisfaction from breaking the ice and making a connection with someone. Yeah I actually just learned. Recently that stands for winning others over I was like that's who stands for and then it makes complete sense. Yeah I love that. I am the person that has no problem whatsoever at a party or event. I'm completely kind of in my element. That's fine for me so yes. This following list was not a shock. Now the next to my number one and number two strengths. Come from the strategic thinking domain. Which completely puzzles me because I do not think of myself as being strategic but I can see dots are like to say I can see dots I just. I don't think I'm the most organized. So number two is idea. What's that one mean? I am so I mean you're able to find connections between seemingly disparate phenomena? I can see that like randomly being radio. Dj who becomes a physical therapist and then he becomes a physical therapist radio. Dj those are. That's gotTa be right there. Yeah Yeah you're vaccinated idea. I am and the number one strength. I had couldn't be communication because that's number four on my list number one for me. Also forms a false in strategic thinking domain futuristic who right so futuristic individuals will strengthen energize others with visions of the future. Yeah I guess I could see that too. I'm always saying what if for how. `Bout we are. You know what we should do. Because I like how it says. They energize others with their visions of the future for me. When I look at something strategic I look at someone sitting there with planner alone and that freaks me out but you. Turistica highlights being energized they. Energize others with their visions of the future for me. It doesn't get fun into other people can see what I see and get excited about it absolutely and there was a great example of this with one of my students when I was speaking with him after the group work and he talked about using the futuristic talent with his patience and individuals that are really struggling to see what what their best beer they maximize their function. So I think that's a really important one for well done. I can see I can see. You learned a lot from using this just once in terms of a go around in school. Any advice or Or IN TERMS OF APPROACH. If someone out there is in PT Education. Says I'M GONNA I. I like this I I. I'm going to implement this into two class into into our curriculum. Anything that you would WANNA give in terms of one pitfall to avoid. You've mentioned some others but anything else actually. Yes I do have some maybe more than one. Awkward Latam has so. Think making sure that we're not stereotyping. Someone Based on one of their strengths is really important because again they should all be positive things that we're seeing that that doesn't not all that one person is about. So you know you being a woo. That's that's not all your about. You have a Lotta great talents that where you you're leveraging so don't focus on Just one thing kind of call someone by that so I think another pitfall to be careful of is that we shouldn't try to develop our weaknesses. We should try to focus on what we are. Good at what? Our strengths are and use those damage rather than focusing on areas where we uncle strong. Yeah I think that was the school of thought. Ten Twenty thirty years ago was be the most rounded person or well rounded person. But you know some of those videos which are free on youtube if you look up strength finders. On Youtube they frame it really really well in terms of The one example. That comes to my mind. Is You know if you're going to have someone who performed brain surgery on you. You would like them to be really really good at brain surgery. And if they're not so good at the foot you're kind of okay with that right. But if they spent time away from the brain working at become well rounded on the foot that can be a detriment actually a really great example. Yeah I love that Meghan. Okay to give out the email address because I can see some more people wanting to follow up where you It looks like it's Am Moran That's M. M. O. R. A. N. At marymount dot? Edu Fellow Marymount Saint Mega. You ready for three questions. We do on the show shores. Do It on the hot seat with three questions on the podcast right after it. I like it a three questions brought to you by our friends at medical staffing. You're free to move about the country as a physical therapist not only in all fifty states in Washington. Dc But all settings as well inpatient outpatient orthopedic Neuro Geriatrics Pediatrics. 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Student Loan Debt Is Crushing Us

She Makes Money Moves

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Student Loan Debt Is Crushing Us

"She makes money moves is proudly sponsored by fidelity investments she makes money Moose is that production of Glamour and I Heart Radio Figured once I got a job I'd be able to pay everything often I really didn't think about how much I was taking out until I graduated a significant amount of loans I took out about two hundred and forty thousand dollars to cover my tuition I always was interested in having a career in science and I went to a city school in New York and luckily my parents were able her story my name is Melanie Macdonald I am twenty eight years old and live in New York City I'm physical therapist here and I've been practicing for we damn well can cancel all student debt in this country nationally one point five trillion dollars and outstanding student to cover those expenses for me I decided I wanted to be a physical therapist and you know started looking into the options for PT School Worlds Money I spent a lot I bought shoes I bought clothes I was thinking about moving in with my takes a little over three years to complete while she was applying to school melanie worked full time as an office manager for physical therapy practice her parents were adamant about saving when she was growing up but when she got a paycheck she was inclined to spend it as soon as I started working in actually making real things at some point she'd like to start a family and own a home but she's scared that you'll never be able to afford either this is and they're all pretty much expensive to become a physical therapist she'd need to earn her doctor of physical therapy degree through graduate program that usually women own nearly two thirds of it as she struggled to bay back her own student loans. Today's guests try to use credit cards to stay afloat about three years now I am two hundred eighty five thousand dollars in debt and two hundred and seventy four thousand dollars of that is student loan debt the presidential election cancel student loan debt for ninety five percent of the kids who've got it if we could bail out Wall Street Dad I think last year on average graduating college seniors had thirty seven thousand bucks on their back that they're going to be paying back I think this year it's forty thousand today she owes over a quarter of a million dollars she's making around eighty five thousand dollars a year and trying to build back Oh per se on longtime boyfriend so we're looking at apartments we finally moved in together and I think that's where money went and then a few months later my books and my apartment because physical therapy school is full time so I wasn't able to work I did side things here and there but we weren't post student loan debt in America has become a national crisis and it's taken center stage among politicians in the run-up to the twenty Twen Kalani was accepted into a program at New York University she was offered a small scholarship which she need loans to cover the rest I had to take but it isn't just political issue it's a women's issue that one point five trillion dollar debt you just heard about the student should have to fear the burden of what student debt right now brings true I taught I did personal training on the side sometimes I tutored anatomy but it was kind of an hour here in our there that I would make maybe a hundred bucks or two hundred bucks a week that would probably by my coffee in the morning melanie qualified for Grad plus loan a type of federal loan that's available the students in graduate or professional schools it covered her tuition and gave her the option of requesting more money to cover living expenses any time the financial aid offered more money I took the extra money I didn't really think about not taking it or giving it back or paying off the loans early I figured once I got a job I be able to pay everything off physical therapists are supposed to do pretty well so I really didn't think about how much I was taking out until I graduated three years later Melanie graduated and started working right away she was eager to tackle her student loan debt and while her payback plan would have allowed her to wait to start making wait to start making payments after all her plan was to save aggressively over the six-month grace period enough to make her payments more manageable but when the grace period was I bill online and it was more than my rent my rent at the time was fourteen hundred and the first bill for the first month was fifteen fifty and she opted not to but then she got her first bill I got my first get jitters from bringing this day but I got it I think we were late on rent so that I could pay my student loans and that was the only one that I can pay that much melanie called her loan company she said she would only was prioritizing her student loan payments she was struggling to make ends meet I had other expenses so metro cards and light and gas nope she had to call them again and say she still couldn't afford the payments the loan company adjusted her payback plan Lord her payments to about seven hundred dollars a month D- so now my husband and I are in a place where we are talking about children and we're talking about hopefully moving into but we don't really see it unfortunately in the near future because it's so hard to save with the amount of those that we have more on she makes money I've never maxed out my credit cards before but I mean it was lunch here for my phone bill or something and at this point I got married news right after this quick break is the cash in your brokerage account working hard or hardly working when you open a new fidelity retail brokerage are we everything else that we have to pay so that just started to slowly go on my credit cards and eventually my credit cards just maxed out I didn't even think that was possible because breath so I've been paying off my student loans for about three years now and haven't missed payment because I'm in a forgiveness program with my student loans and with my job government agency before investing always read the funds perspectives for policy specific to the fund fidelity brokerage services member NYSE SIPC who somewhere of our own house or whatever condo. I mean my parents had house and you know they tell me it's the best thing that they've ever done up in twenty years if I pay all of my payments on time whatever's leftover is forgiven and it just gets tax that year and and I just I don't I don't know I think I cried and I just didn't know how it was going to do it Harman to count your uninvested cash goes into a money market account would a great race so it's never just sitting around check it out at fidelity dot com slash I'm Barry Welcome back to she makes money moves today Melanie and her husband's sometimes struggle to pay all of their bills on time cash value a now for the legal stuff you could lose money by investing in a money market fund which is not insured or guaranteed by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation or any other in total they bring in about seven thousand dollars a month after they paid three thousand dollars in rent my school loans take precedent our credit card bills they're probably the next big chunk whatever else we have left than we kind of figure out well we paid our phone bill late this time so we have to pay that one on time or at work for lunch and dinner time so that's usually twice a day that I'm ordering she teaches pilates on the side to make extra money but her dream is to become an entrepreneur today's expert for Nustar Abby has met with college students across the country who are worried about the burden of student loan debt but many of those students have no idea hopefully we can either pay off our debt faster or have a down payment for a home the biggest struggle that I'm having right now is how among the two malaise not alone and enjoy life and retire eventually the problem is saving and paying off all of these debts and I'm having a very hard time juggling she's trying to launch an online wellness platform with her husband but it's not yet profitable but we're trying to find ways to supplement our income so that goes into delinquency and then I just use the money to put out that fire while another fires building Melanie noser somewhere you know we don't really need to pay cable right now so that can wait and so next month we'd probably say okay we have to pair cable because we didn't do that and then something else will he's that she could cut back on her spending but her work schedule makes it difficult that's a very bad habit of mine to order out I'm at work out our so student loan debt is a little under twenty five thousand dollars but then you have situations like Melanie and many others where it's ballooned women in particular are the fall by the wayside or go on credit card it's like a seesaw you know it's like we're drowning a little and then try to wait as long as I can but not too long so that it can fronting us which is a great start and she's doing some other things right to she's in touch with her lone officer she's prioritizing the student loan debt and she's Never Mr payment which I thought was impressive I think that also the conversations that she's having with her partner are the right ones it's important for couples to be talking about not do it all really how to pay off my loans or get to a place where I can be forgiven which means paying my loans on time and save enough to live owns and her situation isn't unique it's unfortunately not unique and you know the reality is the student loan situation in America is really a crisis the national average of than half of the respondents taught their student loan payments were based on their income and one in ten dollars that if they couldn't find a job after college they wouldn't need you know companies expect their employees to ask for more and I actually read a study recently that most millennials don't negotiate on the first job offer our time you can apply for scholarships grants work study is a lot of companies might reimburse you a little bit so many vote I think Richard earning potential when they're taking on student loan debt if you're starting salary is going to be eighty five thousand you really shouldn't take more than about half of that student loan debt now you might be getting angry with me because that's impossible with the current state of college costs and I think that it's kind of a crime for universities to charge you quarter so you shouldn't really be barring more than forty thousand dollars let's say tuition is more than that how should somebody financially plan for their education water the options you can go what their monthly payments will be after they graduate high I'm Varnish Tourabi I'm a financial expert author and host of the podcast so money orgy of the student loan borrowers in this country the good news is more women are going to college than men but that comes at a big cost so let's yes I will just remind everybody that even though you are at the beginning of your career you may feel like you're just happy to have the job you still have to negotiate huge impact on what the ultimate -ly winds up repaying Melanie has aigdirect plus graduate loan which unfortunately has the highest interest and to the surprise of the employer but certainly she's qualified she's educated she smart you know she has to start planting those seeds rate among federal loans. You have to do the math you know you have to do the math she is in a difficult financial situation boss on the positive side she's alien dollars when they're gonNA send you out into the workforce without really the ability to comfortably pay that down so for a job that pays eighty five thousand dollars repay their loans at all but both of those statements are false it seems to me like Melanie maybe didn't understand what she was signing up for when she took out her student talk about that Melanie took out almost a quarter of a million dollars in student loans her salary after graduation is eighty five thousand dollars a year do people need to be more conscious of their out their goals the future just to sort of understand what they're working towards when you looked at her budget overall and how she spends her money what was your takeaway where we call it a fallback fund every woman needs enough savings to cover three to six months of living expenses in case you lose her job or has a personal crisis my income I also had student loan debt you know I think that now even more than ever there's so many options the Internet has made it so easy for us to easily that she was going to make more as a physical therapist probably thought her and her husband combined salary would be higher I wonder if she factored in the interest rate of loan which will have so independent right we wanna do it all on our own we are very strong willed but the price that we pay for that is that sometimes we forget that I'm just getting into the habit of asking getting over that fear that wasn't so bad so as melanie gets promotions and changes jobs she'll need to ask for more money at there's so much value in leaning on others right in asking for help and asking for support you have this partner here Melanie your husband who at the end of the day just wants to be other person who has vowed his life to you to take something off of your plate I think that we're sometimes I'm conditioned to not ask for help and that is yeah and her husband say you know this is where women this is like our strengthen our weakness our strength is that we are so we want to be should he focus more on the profitable side hustles like teaching Oh yes if possible I mean I'm the queen of side hustles when I was also in my twenty s in New York City here for you and so here's an opportunity for her really I tell this to all married women like the the opportunity is that you can now ask this all these things we want to design our life in a certain way I think that generates a lot of excitement motivation and use that as your compass that st just this really great app that will look at how you're earning and how you're spending it's hooked up to your bank and it will text you and say hey Sam eh making eighteen dollars an hour working in magazines I was a dog sitting I was freelance writing I was doing whatever I could to supplement today we should save four dollars more on she makes money moves right after this quick break I it Sam let's play around would are detrimental make it about the goals unless about the money I think that when couples can really rally behind the future which is we're going to have a family and we want to buy a house one day and we want get a job whether that's quickly you know doing a freelance gag or doing something in your neighborhood if you have a car can you help someone moves Oshii Commodity Melanie's to take on more side bat choice but you do have to choose where you invest your money consider opening a new retail brokerage or retirement account at fidelity they'll put your uninvested every turn wanting that stood out for me she said half the time I can't afford to pay my rent and my student loans and contribute to savings she needs to build back Oprah savings not my latest book was called when she makes more so for news I actually just read a survey about more than a passing adults loan debt and Worcester guy to me was that more not specific to that fund fidelity brokerage services member NYSE SIPC I'm very welcome back to she makes money mood ninety more put that ten dollars fifty dollars right into the account and over time in six months she'll see she has hundreds and hundreds of dollars but try to survive other money edition would you rather be forced to tip five percents or forty percents on every restaurant built for the rest of your life you don't have to on your cash and get that savings going there's a great APP that I recommend to a lot of people it's called digit and I have no affiliation with digit it's into value you'll find at fidelity get more information at fidelity dot com slash cash value a now for the legal stuff you could lose money by cash into a money market account would a great race so it's never just sitting around that means your money will be hard at work without you having to do with thing that's the work with you over the course of a year or two years to modify your loans help you with your budget and you just have someone else to talk to an initial meeting with the NFC easier for myself and a job probably until like twenty s did you negotiate when you got your first job offer I did I asked for a little bit more she said no but I will say that does he can make you feel so insecure and worried and financially vulnerable but even if you're not where you want to be financially right now having that not having that three to six month emergency fund and you know I know that sounds to some people like how am I ever going to get their start small lunch that she's not going to be resting in a money market fund which is not insured guaranteed by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation or any other government agency before investing always read the funds perspectives for women that talked with the camera my friends she feels like she has to use credit cards to make ends meet. Yeah that's a crutch you know that's what you were pointing out earlier what you WanNa hear because it isn't something that you can fix overnight and it sometimes we feel like it's not something that we can control is it started pro career so that's an important thing to note that is not just a number on a spreadsheet it is draining it is emotionally draining a little bit of short-term pain can go a long way whether that means right now and her and her husband are trying to work on us she's teaching pilates on the side which is great she's also starting a business with her husband but that's not making money yes for now he sees often free to which is great because no one's getting out a serious debt without a plan I think that knowledge is so key and the head-in-the-sand attitude on Shen for credit counseling and FCC DOT Org they look at your budget they kind of assessor debt situation and they have debt management programs. You'll what okay where do I want to be in the next year five years that's what we call financial planning right she's Kinda doing that you know and she's realizing she's got some struggles knowledge going to free services talking to people making sure you got plans in place can make you feel just so much more secure thing is Sam you know is they shed were really great at graphic design I mean think about some of the skills and the resources that you have access to that you can leverage to make yes and she's thinking ahead which I think is really hard to stop and do sometimes because life is so busy and I think that's one of the challenges when you're younger you're clearly not alone if you're feeling overwhelmed call your loan agency and ask if you can adjust your payments or reach out to a nonprofit like the NFC ask for longer you're commuting a little bit longer to get to your job but you're also side hustling we all

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Evidenced Based Strategies to Maximize Your Learning  Mica Mitchell

PT Pintcast - Physical Therapy

59:32 min | 6 months ago

Evidenced Based Strategies to Maximize Your Learning Mica Mitchell

"Hey, before we get started, I just wanted to say. Thanks to our longtime sponsors are es medical staffing helping you physical therapists or physical therapist? Assistants find jobs all over this country with position all settings in all fifty states find out what they have for you at a U. R. US medical dot Com. That is a you are e US medical dot com. Follow US online at PT Podcast and subscribe on I tunes, spotify or Google podcasts. Yeah. It's it's awesome. And we're back. Round number two in one day. We'll go back to JOE speechifying cast. podcast physical therapist for missing out an amazing insight, remarkable ideas and motivational stories. In the world of physical therapy I'm cab your hosts broadcasting live today in the Arias Medical Studios also noticed my bedroom. Find them at a you are a US medical dot, com, and as a you are us. Medical, Tom. A you are US medical dot com of the fact that it's live. Out We'll just go with. Leaders in Hashtag travel physical therapy. If you're looking at travel about the country and treat patients geographically where you want to and setting where you want to check with RSS Dov a you are us, medical dot com. Go there great show for tonight's. Talking about. Really like. Insight things that are maybe a barrier to learning I'm wondering where our guest was today when I was struggling through school, trying to figure out at a navigate that I'm guessing laying on a book is probably not a solution. She's going to be giving you tonight. In terms of how to get the information in your head, probably not one of those. Spoiler alert doesn't work. We want to make sure you drop us a comment or question. Let us know where you're at. That's below. If you're watching the live stream or the replay, let us know your washing the by dropping replay, subscribe to the show on spotify Google podcasts, and now again doing those livestream check out all the shows available on Youtube facebook and twitter at find cast on the social was bring in our guest today. Physical. Therapy educator with passion for learning science all things, pediatrics and diversity equity inclusion the PT. Profession Cause welcomed the program. Mitchell. Thank you. I felt I walk around the House and the moment where I'm like stealing down I'm just like you know what. Oh All. Thank Oh, please. Allah make a welcome to the show. Have we doing today? We're great. Thank you for having me. We Are you geographically where you located? I am located in Fayetteville. North. Carolina who rub it in I. Love that North Carolina South Carolina area. People like you know, it gets really hot down there I'm like. Don't threaten me with a good time I. Like that like I lived in South Carolina for two years and I would go running in July at noon on a sunny day. Because, my thing is if you get sweaty delicious, get really sweaty and get rid of go all in, but yeah there is part of it where it's like well. I walked outside of the car. and. It was instantly bathed in sweat I'm like well. You know what it's better than snow. It's always better than snow at is very true. Meka, tell the audience about you like what you're Superhero backstory in the professional physical therapy. I am originally from New York. Grew up in Brooklyn and Long Island all right okay, and then came to North Carolina for college and never went back in. And You're in the world of pediatrics. That's kind of your jam. If people follow Meka on on twitter, as we ever profiled there on the screen at 'em, Mitchell PCs talking a lot about pediatric physical therapy. Was that what you did right out at a PT School? Did you know where you one of those who was like I know exactly what I'm GonNa do this and then you went that way. Were you like the rest of us where we were going to go one way? Way And we hit hard right. Turn somewhere else I did not know is going to be so interested in pediatrics going into school I think every class. It was oh. Yeah! I do that Oh. Yeah, I could do that, too. And then it was our pediatric class, and that was it I was like we can play with kids all day all day and I enjoy children I think I found my thing. Yeah, yeah, all right well, then after that it was. It's all down. Thing when she go when she could once they get their hooks in you and they start looking at you, Zeise it's like how am I going to say no Our first round brought to you by our friends from Owens Recovery Science. They're a single source for looking for certification in personalized blood flow restriction, rehabilitation training as far as the cool kids recalling these days check out more recovery science dot Com. Had Johnny Owens and Kimbrel on from owns recovery science not long ago, and they were actually talking about the implications of far in pediatric physical therapy and geriatric pt and I thought. We kind of had like part of the discussion, which is like hey, this started in the tactic lafley limb, salvage, military, heavy, military based, and then it went to sports which I. Think is like kind of that progression. Like what are they doing? Can you give me an edge? Now be far has been, and is is beginning to be implemented in research anyway in pediatric and geriatric populations very exciting to see where they're gonNA. Go obviously going research very very carefully because you need to do this very carefully. We talk about this all the time. They've got the equipment to do it properly because. the FDA considered tourniquet a medical device that you. Watch L.. You want to make sure you're doing. You're doing it right so Johnny Owens a bringing that to the pediatric world, which is pretty exciting. Check them out. Owens recovery science dot Com Meka your your. Educators well everybody who you get to talk with and educate. Yes, I am a professor at methodist. University in Fayetteville North Carolina, which happens to be my Alma Mater for my undergraduate degree, so my heart is so full or all things and methodist, university. What is the mascot of methodist I? Don't I'm usually very good at mascots. Methodist monarch it's a lion on arc, welding, or green and gold. The colors news grinning. So, so that's got to be pretty. Pretty fulfilling in terms of being able to treat kids working pediatric physical therapy also. Educate kids is ought to call them going through PT School in a pretty sure after a couple of years after PG's graduate. You're like everybody's a kid. And and that's something that excites you in terms of how to get people to grab onto information and acquire knowledge, and you lead off off by saying our intuition is most likely ineffective in acquiring knowledge. I mentioned in the Intro to your show, probably sleeping on a book or sometimes I would put the book on my head to try to get that whole osmosis thing, not the best strategy, but why is our intuition mostly ineffective and we're trying to acquire knowledge in such a short time like PT School. I think it's ineffective because we want to choose what's. Easy! Even though studying not easy, we would perceive that if I do what I've always done, I can learn this and a lot of times. What happens is we've crammed. To this point before you know getting to graduate level studies and Putting in a little bit different work in trying to change the strategy of how we study has been shown more effective so for me and I would say I'm guilty of it as well in school. It took me a while to figure it out, and so my passion with the learning sciences. Let me teach you. Let me show you the sooner, so you don't even have to try to unlearn some of the bad habits that you've Orient established, and so you know how many of us love a highlighter cow. You know multiple colored pens, and underlining and I highlight everything which is actually like on highlighting two words, which which is probably why you're saying it's ineffective exactly and so you know sometimes I've been guilty of the transcribing I'm GonNa read my book and I'm Rita and right at the same time, some reading and writing and reading and writing, but never putting the demand on your knowledge. Upfront because that's painful. That's the hard part you're you're you ask yourself a question and you're like I don't know the answer I. Don't like how that feels. I don't WanNa do that again. pretend like that allusion of knowledge. I'll pretend that I'm studying effectively because I can see the answer and Oh. Yeah, I've seen that I know that answer. Until you, take your tests and then you're like. Wait a minute. Yeah, good test is going to highlight what you don't know. A. Good Death, yeah! And I think. You mentioned a second ago. doing what you've always done and then doing it in Grad School. It just brings a clear a quote to me, which is if you keep doing what you've always done? You'll keep getting what you always got, so we should be smart enough to go. Okay, if I keep doing I've always done I'm never gonNA. Improve at all. And we don't realize how harmful cramming can be because you've been successful. And High School and Co an Undergrad but the knowledge that we're learning in school. You need all of that foundational knowledge and you need to retain it. So. It's not like the first test you take an anatomy I can just cram it. Pump and dump it I. Don't need it again. You're going to need that forever, right? Yeah! I was taught this early in school from my professors sky, Donovan who is just charming Emma. Last episode we had, and she would write these questions and say man. Your questions are like inception. Just like what do you mean like questions in questions in questions, three dream levels down and she's like well. When you're in clinic or when you're taking the T., they're not going to say you know what's the muscle? That's or originates here and inserts here. They'RE GONNA put it in context, and you've got to be able to to learn to answer questions like that and you've got people chiming in right now. Cookie Friedhof Bowman. WHO BY THE WAY NOT PODCASTS? History was episode number one? Cookie, chiming in San. Yes, the public education system doesn't teach kids how to study something. Her Sixth Grade Teacher taught her, but you know I. I forget where I watched it to give it credit, but the current public. You know great, you know Grade School. High school education system was really born about the assembly line, and how to get people to know how to do something over and over and over again, so we can to, we can process things quickly, and we know that's not a great way to do it in higher education, so if we lead with our intuitions, most likely ineffective in acquiring knowledge Meka. What do we do about it? So now. It's an opportunity to learn some new strategies and you have to. One first of all the growth mindset. Understanding that you had the capability to learn more to learn deeper to learn different things, no matter how old you are, we learning that in physical therapy with neuro plasticity there is that potential for growth for learning and so looking at the evidence and I've dived into lots of books and websites and an authors. Research Authors at look into these effective ways of studying and so I. Don't WanNa take up all the time, but I really WanNa talk about one secular, and it is retrieval practice, and how you don't want to surprise yourself at tests about what you don't know. You want to be testing yourself along the way, right. We might just lost Meka might be having an issue right there. We'll see if we can get her back. and. We'll finish this up while we're taking a break. Do you want to let people know that? We have a contest from the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapy? A sponsor of the show could have an opportunity for you guys to pick up another one of their monographs. They've all these educational set so if you're looking to. A Kademi, of. Physical therapy game. Why not do it from the ADAMY OF ORTHOPEDIC PT Chalamet Ortho P., T. dot org as we bring back in Meka might have been Internet connection or something like that you're back. She's back real everybody. Pause I apologize. Froze. It's technically a technology. It's great until it doesn't work. You were talking about quizzing yourself along the way which as you mentioned the top of the show I had students a year above me? Hand Down Quizzes and I would take them and I icky if I didn't know the answers. Which is why I avoided them, but that's a reason news. What you're saying is why. Should have should not have avoided him. I should have gone that way. That's a more effective route. In in in the in the active process of learning what you're saying in terms of evidence based yes, and looking at the combination of that. What we call I call. It's called retrieval practice so really just putting demand on that knowledge. And you. Can practice writing your notes out. You know if you have a topic that you're studying. Instead of reading everything that you've read before because you have that a new illusion of knowledge, you just take a blank piece of paper. Write everything you know about that topic. Just go and then where you stop you. Go back to the book. Review your notes and see what you missing. And then from there you identify what was? What is it about what I was missing that is it. I didn't understand it is I didn't give it enough time for it's you know it's a stick and solidify my my knowledge base, and so just going through that process. It gives you that understanding of Okay I've got this topic and then once you have a topic because it's comfortable. We're not gonNA. Stay there. We're going to say okay I? Do know this is not an illusion I can explain it. And now I'm going to study something else. Yeah, you talk about a lot of things I love when people put words to things that I'm like I knew that, but I didn't know how to put two words, and you're talking about a love that phrase the illusion of knowledge. It's like. Do you know this? You're like yeah? I know this and he kind of have this like Yeah I. I know this. What are you? How are you going to test me and it really is that I mean it's. It's a great pt analogy, which is, we get injured directions that we don't strengthen our or we have poor inge emotion. Right I'm a runner and a cyclist swimmer I go. I'm real good at going forward and when do I get injured? I get injured I. GO sideways. which way do I need to go? I need to go sideways a lot in my training but if we constantly review topics in areas that were really comfortable with, and I found myself doing this when I was ironically at the end of PT School Setting for the N. P. T. I review stuff that I felt because it's reward, right? I'M GONNA. Get this right, but but hey Jimmy would've literally ask you anything else will I'll just I'll deal with that when I'm when I'm comfortable. And you don't want that to happen on the test or in the clinic or on the MPG e you WanNa. Make sure you can do that before that so I I. Love that. What are you? What do you recommend? Is it quizzes along the way that you design yourself? I know a lot of people use US quiz. Let's and stuff like that. They used to use quizzes by. By other people because if I'm designing my quiz, I kind of already know the answers and I can't make it myself. We used to switch quizzes with kind of study group. Sometimes what else you recommend for students in terms of using these evidence based strategies to maximize learning I. Think those are great examples. Definitely you know. Don't rely on your own questions. Because you'll, you'll know the answers, but. There is there are endless opportunities for just coming up with creative ways for retrieval practice, and it really I started learning about these learning strategies before. I started teaching, but it stuck. Home once had to teach content. Because and so this is a way to actually. Do Retrieval practice another method is teaching somebody explaining the concept to somebody else and somebody that doesn't necessarily know what you're talking about as well as somebody that knows what you're talking about so that way you can see where your stumbling over your words, and where you might need to go back to the basic definitions of all the things that you're saying you know we're trying to explain a topic and we're using bigger words, but can you break down every word because that person that you're talking to may ask a question, and then you also show how much you understand about it, and so just really preparing yourself if you were going to teach the content, and it's great for physical therapists because. We can apply this in any part of our career. So before coming to PT school as a student as a resident as a fellow as PT, because you're always doing education. In some capacity, and the more you can explain it to your patients. The more you have bion so as a as a therapist. You know that retrieval practice. You're practicing you're you're you're script? How'RE YOU GONNA? Explain this to this patient. How do you explain their disease process to get their buy in so that they will really participate in your intervention or you know if you're? You're trying to get them to do something different that they've never heard of before. If you're not gonNA, explain it well. You probably not going to get that buy in, and then it's just like okay well, they they didn't want to participate. You got to sell it. You know you have to tell them like this is why and I? Tell my students all the time don't. Embrace the why questions like why? Why let me tell you why? And the more you study in the more you learn, the more you understand your craft than you can just tell tell you know. Tell all about it. Keep cookie dropping on the hair. She says she loves it. See One do one teach one little to say the exact same thing. Cooking our lead right here. By all means see one, you know, just be just being observer. And just and just kind of take that in an absorbent, allow the okay, but then know that you're going to have to now do it, and then eventually you gonNa have to teach it, so you start to formulate that. Teach it while you're seeing and you get to kind of go through it either Kim aesthetically or verbally when you're doing, and then it's time to teach it, and then you go back to. Bright, he would say like. If you don't know how to explain something, simply you don't understand something. A love quotes like that and and you're right in PT. And from my background in radio I would tell people all the time if you're not if you don't know how you're going to explain this to me now while we're in my office away from the Radio Studio, say on the air when that light comes on and you that Mike is live. There's one hundred thousand people listening your trust me. Even though savvy veterans and broadcasting will freeze you better practice that. That and getting this goes back to getting comfortable being uncomfortable because someone's GonNa, ask you a tough question. Let's practice the how you answer those tough questions now or by yourself or with a group. Someone who knows exactly I love what you said at would someone who has no idea what you're talking about? That's a safe environment like yes, sounds Kinda. Good or but they can give you good feedback in terms of. I don't really understand what you said, but you. Kinda like your pitch wasn't direct. And then you get someone who really knows what they're talking about like. Okay, here's where you kinda short. So using those strategies is is definitely probably good to do before the PGA 'cause. That's really when I started to hold on hold on those I probably should have been putting those into into play well before my third year in impeach, school but this up to our our second point, I wanted to talk about which is mindset and commitment to make change I feel like mindset and commitment has to go with. Hey, I want to go cram because I've been very comfortable cramming and it's been very good to me. But, if you WANNA make change, you gotta make you gotTa. You GotTa have it in your head. You gotTA. Say it out loud. You gotTa make commitment. That's only when change can occur. Absolutely does goes back to that growth mindset. Being open to the possibilities. And giving yourself permission to understand. We're not perfect. You know I think PT. Professionals. We've come into this profession. Greg Grays we are competitive all about knowing all the things and doing everything well and just being okay with I'm not gonna get everything. Know it all. I have the capacity to continue to learn ripe, and with the foundation, and with the understanding of. There's more to acquire. To move forward I don't have to say well, you know these people in my class I barely got into school. Nobody knows that, but you know sometimes that imposter syndrome kind of settles in and so it's like no. Give yourself credit. You made it to pt school you are you belong here? You have the capacity to continue to learn and so. Taking that and just grinding, you know that commitment is. Now I know that there are more effective ways to study. I have to hold myself accountable. Maybe study partners, or whoever it is that that you check in with holding yourself accountable and being committed to. Take one thing. Because I talked to our students about a lot of different study strategies, and it's maybe it can be overwhelming. Think of like I have to change. Right now but. You can change one thing. You know take the thing that you're most comfortable with and say okay. If I love the highlight like I just went to the store and I bought all the highlights and every color I will say you can still highlight, but let's try to be more effective with it. You know maybe use it to doodle around the paper, but not to highlight all words in the book. And just really know that there are ways to focus your attention when it's time to study returning off notifications we are. Know, taking the APPS that you're automatically. Go on your phone. You don't even realize like. How did I? Even get here right? You know taking those distractions and hold the people around you letting them know okay this time like if I come out of the space for studying, don't. Don't pay any attention to me because I still have more time. You know or setting time time boundaries and accountability for yourself, and those little steps will continue to kind of flex your muscles of learning, and and your you'll see the effectiveness, and you're like okay. Well I can do more okay, so what's next? So two things one. What is it about the highlighting? Because as the more you say it, the more I realized. It just felt it was like at least at least touched the word rights later on I touched it. I touched all the words touched all the words. But I really didn't learn right. Just touching them does not do anything. It's just like you know lame with the book on my head. It's they're both doing nothing. So is that just a is that my willoughby that my cover blanket of touching all the words with a marker look. Yeah and maybe is that fall the sense of maybe you think is, there can aesthetic versus you actually picking up the pen and writing the words without seeing them. You know so. If you feel the comfort in holding the highlighter, you know, you could possibly right with a highlighter. highlighter was your thing, but just really. Identifying that that's part of the Meta cognition how we think about thinking, sit back and say. Why do I do the things that I do? is going to be effective, or has it been effective or if you identify if you're in school, or you're studying for PCS, or you're studying for an PC, and you've taken practice tests, and you hit a block and you're like. Wow, I thought I knew these things. And, then I realized I. Don't then you have to make? You have to be willing to make a quick change. So continue. Yeah successful the second point you just brought up a few seconds ago was turning off the APPS that we go to, and this is great advice that I got from several professors. PT School really around the N. P. T. and they said listen. If you're taking a practice test, you're gonNA have the impulse to say. Pretty sure I know this. Let me Google to find out real quick in the middle of a practice test. But what they told me was getting it wrong on a practice test is a win. Do that tape by all means. Take your best shot. But to make sure that you don't just default to let me just do like a new tab real. Quick here on the side. Because obviously, there are no tabs on the N. P. T.. But that can that can lead you guessing until a false sense of security of like pretty sure. I knew that Oh yeah. I knew that because you might have guessed it right so by all means get it wrong and don't you're saying resist that? Urge in terms of looking it up. That's got to be big absolutely. And you just want to hold yourself accountable because the high stake is the test. And so if you practice any test taking, you know if you know if you have test anxiety if you can nervous, maybe being in the type of space or understanding what that environment is going to be like, but stimulating what that test is going to be if you have two hours to take a test practice studying for two hours if it's the empty, you need to practice and for the weekend. Set yourself in a place where you have that. How long is the test? Our citizen four. Okay, so you. You're embassy. Then you have your your certified specialists exams, and so those are longer. And so really to build your endurance for that. You probably need to consider Practicing studying and practicing test taking in that same environment, so that way you, you know what to expect, and it helps you to be more. More successful. Yet, knowing the test knowing layout and Actually putting yourself in that environment. Would you ever work with patient? WHO's GONNA run a half marathon and only have them run six miles. No, of course not you would have the build up to something close. To to the actual you know race day, and I I lucked out I got a similar advice, which was no, no, not not in your room. Because your room is comfortable environment, I want you to go to the library and get one of those private study rooms and lock yourself in there, and no, you can't take to bathroom breaks. You can only take one so prepare for these things because if if your awkward on on Race Day on. E. Day. You'll these things as Matt here points out. Endurance is key I. Tell people all the time like this is mental. Endurance I mean I, think we we, we say we average like a minute or a minute and a couple seconds. Per Question on the NPA so by all means. If you get question, I got this right away in ten seconds. Realize you're gonNA use some of that time. You could bank some of that time to move to the next one, but realize when you get one of those schedule breaks hey brain. No Santa Muscle, but you should treat it as it's mental endurance of maybe taking a break and taken a couple they'd take five really really deep breaths because this thing is going to is going to go deep. Last. Saint Hi Matt saying Hi Laurie Saint Hi questions for Meka below in the comment section. If you watch it, live on facebook or or on twitter. We're only talking MA study, study and learning. We're bringing up a lot of studying because you were. You're a professor at a PT program, but this probably continues onto. We're lifelong learners, Meka. That all through school and I was like man this. I thought it was going to end eventually Learners. mindset and commitment afterwards you went ahead and said I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. Get My specialty examination and I'm guessing these strategies helped you to do that because those tests are even more intense in a specific area. If someone's not going through a specialty exam or the N. p. t. e., N., P., T. School. These things have to be just great. Life skills to have. Absolutely because we're always learning something and we're always sharing and if we are. As Lifelong Learner in our profession. The evidence is changing, so we're always having to maybe unlearn some things and you know learn some new things. How how it was done when I graduated is not the same and so being to that and being able to dive into the research and the evidence with this capacity to say okay, this is something new. I seen I saw this on the Journal. I saw some people tweeting about it because mid twitter twitter is it keeps US abreast of current events and knowledge and so. Just really. If there's something you WanNa. Learn in life, you know we think about our hobbies. A lot of times time focused on PT, but we do have lives outside of that, and so it's it's applicable for ourselves as well as for our children right, and this is an I think, or I feel this. Make doing research into this. She was beginning to teach Samantha saying high. She's given away. Where do you find this research? Where is this? An educational is higher education research. Where do you look for these types of things when you're looking for strategies to give to students or to adopt yourself? Where do you seek these out? So I found out? There are some books and some websites that I have really Peru Peru, so there is the learning scientists, and that website has lots of resources. They have podcast. They have Like infographics to Kinda help with understanding the different terms that they go into, and so at various levels, we can look at multiple strategies, so not just a retrieval practice. There's other ways to solidify your knowledge and make sure that you are effective in your studying so when it actually comes to sitting down and learning the material. Do you spend five hours on one topic? But the research shows that you need to break that up so twenty five minutes you know we talked to. You brought it up and how you need to take those mental breaks, and so you know setting a timer being committed to that timer, and saying okay for this amount of time. I'm going to focus on this. I know I. Don't want to stop studying this topic but I need to four. The ability to that mental exercise to be able to jump through topics because with our PT profession is not just one thing like you alluded to that that the questions that you were taking their multi level. They're multifactorial. There are a lot of things that are going into. Dealing with patients and patient population, so we have to be flexible, and so if you're studying in that manner, then you're also able to. PR Produce when it's time to. Take your test. Yeah, to actually flex that muscle, so make sure you're you're make sure strengthening that particular muscle the right way, so you can flex it. Everything you're saying I'm sitting here. Nodding. Actually doing a I'll tip it off any colleague watching now just just pause this, but you a great example where I have a pitcher of beer and a pint glass and I. Say this this right here. This is your cognitive of cognitive load. This is all you can actually absorb in one sitting and I don't care. If you have a pitcher of beer and you keep pouring it. You're just GONNA eventually. Poor beer on the floor, so nobody wants to pour in the floor. We don't want to ever do that right to make a mess. We don't want to be your way, but realize if you're if you're studying for five hours. It's a communes. You just pouring into that same pint glass. Yeah, you gotTa Pint. That's it so maybe poor? The pint full sit and maybe digest and say okay. How long do I need to get this information down now? I can return to that Pitcher, which is still very full and I can do a couple more chances now, but I'm. Guilty of going I'm just going to. I'm going to spend all night. CHUG FEST! I'm just GONNA. Try Too much information in my head is possible and meanwhile on the floor. It's just a whole lot of beer. Do we just go information to beer? Analogy show I think I. think that's your channel. No, do it well. But, but we're totally guilty that and especially so this is what I want to ask you in school again as a second career. Person Come at a PT school. Most of my classmates were ten plus years younger than me. and I still fell right in lockstep with them. In terms of Oh my gosh. I got an eighty eight and. Five and I spent eight hour studying for this test I guess I need to spend twelve hours next time. I was kind I kind of gave myself the nickname of Mardi MC fly because I study for ten hours or four hours and had always get an eight akin to the delorean, the speed that it would need to to get to go back in the future. No matter what I did. I always got an eighty eight and I had professor saying. It's it's passing, and eventually it's not going to matter, but how you talk. Pay A students off that. I felt like alleged to me of caring about the eight versus the ninety-three like teach me because I still don't know. I think that's a process. You know we don't like the. We don't want to not be doing. Best No, but sometimes your best is good enough, and then you know if you take a step back and assess what's important to you. Because one are using effective study strategies that in itself could actually make the difference, but then to what difference in your quality of life is they are if you study for ten hours versus if you effectively study for five. and working sleep into this equation. Classmate, wake up at five in the morning to study the morning of the test. My brain did not I'd rather study till two in the morning than get up at five. I was like my brain and doing anything five in the morning productive Where were you in Twenty fifteen That halfway your school. What's your undergraduate degree in 'cause? You're like super. Curious about this aspect of of teaching, I got an what's your Undergrad degrading? So my undergraduate degree was in sports medicine, and initially I was going into athletic training and just made a curve. Through that process and land in in physical therapy I like how you're like a curve. Let's not much of a I was broadcasting. The journal Nature that's not even occurred about or more than a little. More than new degree angle to get in there people chiming in here Laurie saying yes, sever students who get an idiot. You're GONNA be better. Than get the ninety five. Did they continue to learn from the eighty-eight great point? Laurie back it up. My Mardi make fly eight on pretty much every test a matter how hard I studied but there's other factors you're talking like sleep or or or the things that can come into it and strategies as you as you mentioned the top of the show, and again. You have to ask. What is the test actually testing right? And where am I going to continue to learn because some people getting a ninety nine a Matassa like I'm done because I'm. I'm almost perfect. Why don't you get someone like me? Who's like clearly not perfect? We gotTA keep hustling on this game. You know so when you hear these things from from students I'm sure you get these a lot. In terms of of relatable activities Is there something that you have a go-to in terms of how to talk them off that ledge? When they when they start to bring these to you. Irene just trying to re state, you know what I know that we can change you know, and ultimately it's the individuals decision on how they will proceed with that information, and so I think you know Laurie brought up was. With the eighty-eight. If you're still not fulfilled with that grade you're. You're more likely to say. Let me figure out why I got this eighty like I. WanNa know what I got wrong because I don't like I. Don't WanNa keep making these mistakes and so I, think that hunger for figuring out why I got the questions wrong not in not to argue or Being away where you're just like I know, that was right. It's just like really look at what did you get wrong? And why invest part of that Meta cognition as part of studying, and so if you can do that before the test, then you're better off, but if even the test in you got in your anxiety or on your emotions, or whatever you just didn't read the question. Well, you know some of that is part of it, too. What are your test taking strategies? That's a whole nother, conversation, and so just really. Having that moment of reflection is important. Yeah I was really good at narrowing it down to two and then are very good at talking myself out of the right answer. I would probably I. mean if I would give any advice and Do you remember Baas Lerman the song? Everybody's free to wear sunscreen. Spoken word I'll. Look it up. Baas Lerman like a movie character, but he did this spoken word, and it became a pop song, and I feel like I'm giving advice people which is. Like I felt like I was so good at talking myself out of the right answer, and the reason was I tried to l. think the professor. Meanwhile, the professors literally just trying to say. I'm just questioning you. I'm not trying to trick you like. Is Probably would've helped me get ten extra points, which is not trying to trick you. I'm trying to test you, so don't don't double red herring. The thing that you're trying to figure out. Just answer the question being given, but I was pretty good at. Talking Myself Out of the right answer. I think that's definitely true for US test taker just in general. Hearing. Your professors say something. It's not always received. Just like when your parents tell you things you hear it different from your cool cousin or your? You know your call on her uncle, so I had some dialogue with some PT professor friends and it was. Can you come and tell our students these things because we've been saying these things when it comes, it hits different when somebody else says the same thing. Just to encourage students and say like you have the capacity to learn this. You can do this, and if you make a mistake, a mistake is going to happen. You're the rare occasion that somebody gets a hundred on everything. And that's okay, because if you can reflect back on what it is, you learning what you missed and why you missed it? It makes you better because we don't want to be wrong. You know we don't want escape through. This I mean like barely got through school like you. You put the effort and you put that work into saying okay well. Why did I get that wrong? What is it about that topic or that? Concept that is? Difficult for me and that's one. Maybe you go to your professor and say okay. Can you help me with this concept? This is how I've learned. This is what I can recall. This is how I would explain it. And then you can, they can help you and guide you on that path to so reaching out to your professors. Definitely something that I encourage my students like as soon as you identify that there's an issue sooner than later is so much better than waiting. Because that's the other illusion of it'll get better because we're optimists. Right I'm an optimist. Get better. There are some things we definitely need to address as soon as possible. First Semester knows first year school. As you're saying this I'm like shoe. Where were you? It was active and passive insufficiency. Every room is like yeah. I get it. I was like Yeah I. Get it too, and then we'll get every question and I'm like I actually don't understand at all, and then it's one person just being like here. Here's what I'm like. That's it like I literally thought it. Was this such this concept like out of the room and I was like yeah I. Totally get it. I. Don't need any help but I would get every question wrong. Professors like you got every active and I was like but I understand it. She's like. Okay explain it to me. Just as you said like see one do one teach. Teach it to me on my. And five minutes five minutes later, probably three minutes later. I was like that's it and she's like yeah. I was like well. That was fifteen points the test. So that's what Jimmy keeps getting idiots because he was giant thing I wasn't bold enough to say yeah. I'll be honest I have no idea what you're talking about. Can you please teach me this so I don't lose points on a test. Doing that is is huge. I mean that's a lot of psychology which is being uncomfortable, comfortable enough to say yeah. I think I belong here, but I'm still not getting this. And can you spend five minutes on this for me and I will I'll work on it I don't need you to give me the answer, but if you can leave me how I can figure the answer out super comfortable. You use the phrase growth mindset a couple times. It's kind of a buzz phrase I like growth and mindset. What is growth mindset? Mean to you though. A means the capacity to continue to learn. And so sometimes it's like well. What is it? What is it not? It's not a fixed months at a fixed mindset is I am smart and I? Don't have to work for it and I know all the things already or fixed. Mindset is I'm not as smart as everybody else around me, and I'm never going to be as smart as them. And so, what barriers you already set yourself? Set yourself up for sure If you're in that in that moment of I don't know if it's imposter syndrome, or if it's just really how you feel like there's some people that are smarter than me. There's some people that might be smarter than me now, but as soon as I get that knowledge, and I will be just a smart as them you know, and some of that comes from your dedication to the work and the information and your ability to that self reflection, or that reflection of the knowledge I feel like like I like growth mindset. We condemn how on last week and he's everything's growth. Like trading stocks and flipping cars and houses in his spare time and I'm like night. Here. Growth Mindset is people like Gary V. They're talking about it all the time on twitter and instagram. I feel like we should adopt like dynamic or static mindset like to me like dynamic mindset, 'cause I've heard growth mindset. I'm like I know what that means. Tell me about a January now I do because me. I would just say grew growth mindset. Mean to me the way you just described it. I like it better. It's like dynamic mindset like I'm I'm okay with saying not that great right now, but you know what tomorrow I'm going to be one percent better and seven days from now maybe ten percent better and three years from now like I'm going to be on to some other different things, I think growth mean in terms of PT like growth. And dynamic right is that is that were where it's like it's moving? It's always going forward so I like I like how you phrase that. mark Mulligan we. Before we hit record on this, we were talking mark. Miller and we just did a live show with him, and he ears must have been burned before we. so so talk to me about some of the conversations. You got into at in Denver last all Mademoiselle last year, which is, it was like five months ago, but bills like three years ago. That was actually February of twenty twenty. So a presentation that that market done. We had talked about that a little bit. He said there was a lot of conversations going on over multiple days. He mentioned you several times. Why What did you get into? And why did you? Why did you feel like this? was something important enough at that time? Five months ago, but feels like ten years ago. Why was it important enough to talk about? At CSM. I was able to present with a group that It was a task force a work group within PD. Pediatrics so the academy pediatric physical therapy I was on a diversity equity and inclusion workgroup to look at any types of suggestions or recommendations that could be made to make our profession are specialty, more diverse and welcoming to include more people that may feel. Not a part of The community, and so we decided to talk about hot topics, diversity equity inclusion for pediatric physical therapists and assistance. My topic was microaggressions and. At the time you know now with all the different things going on in society, it's just like wow. We were definitely on the pulse of what needed to be addressed and you know it was well received well. Represented where people came to a lot of the sessions that I even attended as a participant, but just really understanding, how and I know mark talked about Diversity Equity Inclusion and why is important? To make these efforts is because you want the profession to reflect what society looks like. And so that is in representation of gender age sex. Gender expression and sexual orientation like things like we have to be in a space where we are comfortable with people that are different than us, and that makes our profession better. It makes our skillset better and then talking about micro aggressions. Maybe these are the reasons why people don't want to be in the spaces that that we're trying to welcome them in because we don't you know we're not feeling welcome if you've ever been marginalized or the only one of secular category in a group. It's not fun, and it's not fun especially, if somebody is snubbing you or just intentionally or not intentionally, just not including you I'm so could be a variety of things that are. Being expressed so in addition to microaggressions, just looking at how do we make the change so is not. It's not good to just point the thing out. It's like now. What do we do with that and? Now what right and so then I talked about micro affirmations, and how you can include, and you can encourage, and you give credit to the people that are around you doing great things especially if they're of a marginalized group, because you don't want their working effort to not be recognized, and you want them to continue to be willing participants in the conversations and the spaces that professionally or personally that they occupy. Yeah, we one of our producers, actually shared are a great info graphic based on information from the a PTA which is The graphic and the representation of therapists in the profession and looking at some of the data. Because there are you know? Collecting data takes a long time ago census, but from from two two sentences ago to the last one. We've actually regressed. Which? Which should anger? We learned we researched. We collected data twice and in the time from eight be. We actually regress to now and I. Guess The question is like and I'm glad we're having these questions. I'm glad we lined up mark and you in the same day. Just so mark a great opening band for you like you can tell mark thing like hey, thanks for be my opening act. That we're having these conversations and I call them kind of CSM nostradamus because he he was involved in. Diversity Equity Inclusion, which was ongoing wasn't just him? But also telehealth, which is two topics which have taken the forefront, but you mentioned microaggressions I had no idea what. That term was forty years old. I grew up in a white suburb of New York I know like. In the most the most. microaggressions would have ever felt as I was. I was a short guy in the baseball team. That's about it. But mark mentioned like examples of not having the proper pronouns on intake forms and PT clinics. We need to think about that because if you're looking for that, and you don't see that you actually see yourself excluded because there are things that do not allow not even other a chance for you to write that in. But that's not even enough. We want you to be included. You WanNa. Say we we've. We are welcoming you. You need to be on the form. That's this big, but that's that's. That's a huge example of. We're not prepared for that. We're having enough. Discussions or I should say we weren't having enough discussions, I hope we hope we will continue to have more discussions about this in the future, and the efforts speaks volumes. I think part of the process is. We're not going to get everything right. You know it kind of goes back to studying learning. You'RE NOT GONNA get it all right now, but we need to be open for the conversation for difficult conversations, as might be awkward and uncomfortable, but if we don't have them, then we're in that regressive state of the were not even going to acknowledge it that there is really something that could be worked on, you know. Yeah. I mean everything I said we had several people on. We had students are I don't want call them students new graduates now because they were students when they wrote their their paper. From Texas, state looking at experiences, black physical therapists. Physical therapy students in in in Texas. And I didn't think we were off the air when I said this and I was like. Don't take your foot off the gas like you did this before it was the trendy topic. And I say but trendy topic, not the important topic. You were having recession station before everybody was like. Okay, let's we we need to have this conversation. Don't take your foot off. The gas like this needs to be. At CSM in every section, right, it can't be impedes or Ortho or needs to be like. What are we doing? How? How are we having this conversation? In all of these different areas needs different sections of physical therapy. Otherwise the next time we do a sentence. It might be worth. It might be worse even though we're having a conversation once we're doing something about, it might be worse. We can't have that that's true. Absolutely. Man. We're getting a lot of commerce cookies very very important. Yeah! She's GonNa love cooking. Are you ready for three questions, did you? I'm ready. Ready. Harley three questions. 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Albany but I would love to see Niagara Falls. And just you know just see it more in a slower pace than not and be a tourist. I'm. City now I'm. I'm a New Yorker I shouldn't say lifelong. I moved around, but like a lot of people here in New York and they're just like. Yeah, you know New York Manhattan and I'm like. Most of New York State is actually a State Park I dunno people know that Adirondack state. Park is like as big as like Rhode Island own, so it's a pretty diverse. We Border Canada like. Do people know that like New York? I candidates. We got a great lake in the state so New York state. Good answer I like that second question. What question? What's something you've watched? Read? Listen to like movie book podcast. Something that you think the audience. Could could take away and and and get information out of just one thing you can get to show you so recently. I just and read listen to because audio books are my thing and deep work is a book that I just listened to, and it just really talked about how you can take pretty much. All of these things and strategies to the next level, and in preparation for just putting focused attention into the things that you're doing to be more effective with your time, and not allowing distractions to allow make things take longer in your life. Life and so I'm probably going to have to listen to it a couple more times to really digest. What was in there, but there were a lot of moments where I was like. Wow, I! Definitely want to. I want to do more things. I WanNa do different things and I want to be respectful at time, and and this might be a tool. Yeah, deep work I like that. Do you want to know my my strategy every day? I actually wrote an entire simple like I'm going to be talking to Lynchburg. University on tomorrow tomorrow. Friday Friday. I wrote the entire thing because I went to a park to to just kind of like there was no Wifi Meka. Fai It was blue. That's part of the no distraction. Right fan tasks and part of what they talk about in that book as just nature, and how nature can stimulate you to be more creative, so you had a double whammy right there. were. Birds, grass or playing basketball I was. Kind of cool, and I'm writing a little bit knowing. It's Kinda cool, and then I couldn't Google anything. It was amazing we always end with people third question. Three questions is a WHO question. Who's someone the audience you know more about? So I believe her ears are already burning today so I'm GonNa say at least van who's? She is an amazing human being I. Have there some students that are on twitter? So twitter is where I live I, you know my social media spot and You know just people that I follow their. There's this deja would. There's drew Anderson. There is Chelsea laskey. Becky bliss that you know I. Think Anybody that is a professor at methodist. University is fantastic. And so those are the people that I would shout out and say that they're working doing amazing things that bring Lisa Lisa's dimensioned back home. I actually sat next to her at a presentation at education and leadership conference in Seattle Seattle and my professor was actually Sorry, she. My professor is twitter and she was gone. My Fester Sky was nudging means she's. Got! To interview her I'm like who is. This leads famous old Nestle's venues, so she's like you got interview her, so we'll get around Michelle. She's like whale right now is like I was like I need need to bring home so We'll bring her in. That's three questions from Arias medical a US medical dot com. Let's do your parting shot you ready for this. Never. Prepare for your shows. You pardon shot right now. Fancy we are with. A spinning cube. I have no idea even make that thing. Parting shot is brought to you by the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapy Orthopedics Org tomorrow. We're talking to Chris Hughes I'm a show about tissue tolerance, a tissue tolerance course in a running course, because I feel like everybody and their mom including. My mom is like running now. Like those hey, let's grab onto this. biking and running doing software. Let's not make it like six months from Albert. He's just hurt. Not Doing so The Academy of Orthopedic Team has several courses to give you a chance to win your choice. Just like you win one. You pick one. Check out what they have to offer orthopedic Org. We're talking to Chris used tomorrow. Your parting shot, Meka. All right well. I WANNA. Thank you for this opportunity. And for all the everyone listening you know have a growth mindset. And I think setting your goals are important because if you set your goals. Not just something that you really think is attainable. Set Your goals for something beyond your wildest expectation, and you'll be surprised where you land. Love short sweet to the point you who knows what did they say like? Aimed for the stars, and if you met you his MRI hit the Moon I dunno some somebody said it way better. Aim for the moon on. You're right I'm sorry. But I feel like you know kind what I'm doing now. I would have never imagined. Faces to have these conversations, but Here, we are here we are. Let's keep going. would love to have you back soon. We could talk more Pete's pt because I feel like we do an entire episode on just obstacle courses, because if you don't like everybody's favorite if you like obstacle course. Like Florence Act Lava, just narrow as On, TV, NETFLIX! Yeah, who insane is that like? This is the thing we've been talking about wanting to know, but is the floor. Really Lila I well, there's one. Vulcanologists! Bread water. Spoiler is right. Lawyers would have a field day with that Meka. 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Disabled is Not a Bad Word says Marcia Darbouze

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Disabled is Not a Bad Word says Marcia Darbouze

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Now, of course, video casting on Youtube facebook and twitter at PT Pine cast on the socials and make sure you comment questions during the show. If you say, you WanNa Interactive Podcast, which you've said before. And now challenge you comments or questions or the word replay. If you're watching the replays, let us know you're interacting. Let us know where you're watching. I'm always curious where this podcast actually gets to on the interwebs. Let's bring in our guests today. Our next guest powerlifting strong woman black spooning, living, playing, lifting, and practicing physical therapy in south Florida Look Marcy Dr Booze to the show. Hey we bring our. Marcio welcome to. Know. How're you doing today not too shabby pretty high hyphen spoons or doing good. It's going to be great high on spoons and I had no idea what that would have meant before I did a little work and your background poking around because I saw that come across I'm thinking to myself what is what is spoon house like I'll ask her winning a on the show but then something brain said poke around a little bit force you get some context. So for the audience I, want you to walk us through this. You say your high on spoons you describe yourself as a spooning what's that mean? while. It's basically a metaphor F- to explain how people with chronic illness feel. So or disability of any type visible or not visible. So started by woman named Christine and she kind of use it as an analogy to explain. How she feels so let's say you as the normal able bodied person wakes up every day the world hands you a hundred spoons no matter what and then it costs five swings, Cook Breakfast and spoons good work spoons this whatever whatever for me Maybe. Maybe I will maybe I won't get one hundred spoons every day they don't roll over they don't collect some days. I might feel like I'm in the negative in. So I might wake up one day and half to decide. Am I, washing my hair today or am I staying in bed? So, high on spoons we're good to go already. It's a way for and I loved how reading the backstory behind you. LEGIT Google. What's a spoon? I WanNa see what she's talking about. Care it was it was really used, and now that we're discussing here in this podcast, hopefully, other therapists if they hear their patients describing it, they understand the language of the person they're working with but really it was it was a way for people living with chronic pain to discuss amongst each other. It was a language they were using to to to communicate say, Hey, today I'm hind spoons or you know that's going to be too many spoons worth to do I'm going to push off to tomorrow otherwise because what happens or what was described I was reading would be if you go into the negative. That's going to carry over for you. To the next day in terms of you're GONNA now suffer the effects of going into the negative spoons. Am I walking through that right definitely, and there's also a couple of not at one likes that terms people like to call themselves unchargeable. There's also like a battery theory in terms of like you have a faulty battery and I don't know as much about that one. But there are different words and terms and analogy but at bare minimum just to get the point across that everyday, we might not have it. Yeah, it's a good way to explain it I. Mean It's pretty clear you. It's I like it because it's visual I'm. Sure things visually and yeah. But going into like getting out of bed that's going to be one spoon right. But also like you know getting ready for work and you're late right now you're you're amped that's going to cost you more today because you're late than it did yesterday when you weren't late and if you only get one hundred a day, you might have to skip some things. Hey I can't. I can't do that today because I'm low on spoons today after Martina's high on spoons and we liked it. I didn't even have to take a nap today. I mean, unprecedented. There we go. Your story, I wanNA find out how how did you come come to the professional physical therapy brings you here to you know into it and and we'll find out about you before we get into some other cool stuff learn. Yes. Sure. I mean I've always been into medicine in general but as a child of patient immigrants, all you know about medicine is doctor nurse and at nursing maybe not maybe doctor I, think about it. So I always had pre MED programs in school like Middle High School I was always doing those Saturday science field trips like dissecting pigs seventh grade like all of that stuff, and then I got to high school and they let us take field trips and explore different parts of the hospital and I got to the physical therapy room and I was like, all right I could buy but this. This makes sense in the kind of felt like. The MD was a little more boring to me people came in and out and you there a right person great high what or rent does down next okay. Person High what or retinas now next and I was like It's not for me. You gravitated I mean used the word in there. That's really the tale to me, which is person and connection is what I'm getting out of that is, is you said, Hey, listen sciences. Cool. That's super broad, right? Yeah. In the how can I connect in science or how can I connect with this with this field and people and you decided that along I'm guessing a longer because you also talked about time which is hey, how you doing right this leave. Longer connection. So physical every where'd you grow up? I'm from south, Florida through through. So pretty much Miami, Fort Lauderdale area, and that's pretty much start finish have been like it. All right. So see you decide that that's what you're GonNa do and you go through that and you know when did you become a PT? So I shot straight through high school knowledge straight through of. So actually end up going to Nova southeastern, which is in Fort Lauderdale driving distance There's a couple different schools I wanted to go to in things are the timing is weird which no-one no-one explained to you. You could apply for five schools and they all start in five different stopping points and you have to decide okay I. got this acceptance to wait to miss do I do this. Played it safe. Stayed home. Yeah. I like that good experience at PT School. Yeah overall Lia good yeah. Blood. Sweat and tears a lot of tears. But we all got out. We all provide. That's one thing we all have in common. You some other stuff you look real comfortable holding a microphone with a set of headphones. Why is that? Why do I have these headphones I? I'm one of three women disabled girls who lift but gassed. Yeah. About. That why'd you start it because I'm always curious rue the why did you decide to do a star show and then who he aim at what he talking about? What's what's the give their because that's what podcasting is all about being give right. Yeah. Skits always like telling a story you feel like hasn't been told yet. So that's kind of where we're at. So for me I wasn't. Wake Up. I, was born at deal with disability and illnesses whole time it was new to me. So I went through school quote unquote normal able bodied and I learned about, Rehab? No Neuro Oh man that's them. That's not me I'm cool and then I hit about twenty fifteen. So. Almost, five years ago now that things started to go a little wild and started to grapple with me so. I started have a lot of fear. A lot of anxiety Megan I. Am I going to be wheelchair bound is gonNA suck? Where am I gonNA end up and you know you're treating patients and seeing the end The far bottom the rock bottom in it's it's a little scary. So then I started having trouble with my lifts as a competitive athlete that messes with your identity also. And then I found Mary Beth who someone who really founded disabled girls who left and she has a she was born missing a hand and so I would just message her about these random feelings ahead disability bad. How should I feel about this and we kinda just ranted and just went on and on and on with and after a while like what? More people are having this conversations. Let's let's go somewhere with this and that's kind of weird. So we also have Khloe who's like. Strong AF actually top you three, she's like top ten. Times how? I'm forty eight pound weight class like she looks I mean that is I would not question that with. Aggressive. Yeah. So you guys all have that thing in common in terms of lifting disabled lift. So what are the kind of conversations? What can people? Expect to listen to because I. Love the fact that there are so many podcast. Now, yours is a prime example. Of of of of physical therapists listening right now who? Really, prescribe listening to your podcast. To do after or outside of the clinic as something could get complete value out of you could start to prescribe physical therapy podcasts or this is a physical therapy podcast in terms of its put, it's a conversation that you might think a patient could benefit from. So what are the accommodations that you guys get into you guys got more than thirty episodes already so Kudos on that. Yeah. We're moving along. We're moving along and it's it's a lot of the conversations are things that her and I talked about in the beginning. you know how do we treat people that are disabled? What does it mean to be disabled desert look is there something should be able to see and we get to have a lot of conversations with some awesome people. Some people have a spinal cord injuries. Some rare things I've never heard of like halt Orem Syndrome just. Everything blindness everything and they just tell us about the lived experience and how they make movement work. Some of them are new to movement. Some of them were already lifting before something happened and the Cup lifting owing. You. Mentioned something a second ago which when you were going through an experience like this Max's with your identity I'm a runner. I had a leg injury to three years ago. I didn't know what I was going to do like it. I wasn't I didn't lose the ability to walk. Everything was pretty much fine except that one thing was out of my life was. Yeah, that was a big deal to me and I didn't know where I was going to fit or how was I going to identify what do you do? Well, I don't want anymore and that was all I could think of is like to tell you what I didn't do any anymore. So really I'd say the overarching message for your show is Hey, first of all disabled, it's not a bad word. Yeah not at all, and so when I first started having issues it it really mess with the identity and my performance and I just denied it. So it could pushing and pushing my body and myself So like one year went to raw nationals. And just total absolute trash performance and that was kind of my wakeup call it. What are you doing? Something is wrong with you. You need to sit down and sit with this figure out, get through it and that that's where I finally started addressing the issue because I couldn't hide from it anymore. Had you already connected to these these ladies from simple girls who left at that time now? How did you did you come across them? I love those stories of like meeting people just like. Just, loving loving chillers vibe and wanted to talk more. Yeah How did you meet these? How'd you meet these ladies and get involved instagram? Him and a time where are, we suppose was over social media. It's skits. A lot of superficial gets a lot of you know just like happy go lucky whatever messages in highlight of it but. There's real people on here. Yeah. The and there are a lot of times. In the Oxford debate a couple years ago it's a highlight reel and like. I have a lot of wins in my life, but I have probably just as many losses or maybe more, and if I only see your highlight reel or everybody's highlight reel, I almost said and start feel this big and what am I doing wrong with my life. But if I really took stock I, could say, wow, look at these look at what I. Do Have Right. But I agree with you on social media you a couple of laps and you can get burned out on that and just desensitized to that companion. So it was was almost out and then somehow came across I don't know what? Hashtag I was going through or whatever, and I just saw at the time Mary Beth lifted for four Federation that. Doesn't allow adaptation. So she was doing one armed lifts and I looked at the videos like okay. I need to know who this person is that that's pretty much where it started, Ou-. That's a great picture I mean one arm deadly that is crazy and she put his picture up on on that website where their description and again that website is disabled girls who lift dot com. So when we go with that first topic to talk about now disabled is is not a bad word when you when you bring us into clinical practice, how do approach this? How do you? How do you broach the subject to begin to to let people know like hey, there's something that there's a limitation you gotta get over, but it's not a bad thing. Yeah. Yeah. That's basically it. This is this progress. This is this is a process. Sorry this is a journey. Than the destination is moving better in feeling better things will be the same maybe they won't. But you know you're still you. You're still one hundred percent of the same person. Matter what happened I like how you instantly flip and make it a narrative journey destination maybe it might go this way it might go that way but that's a better way saying of well, medically speaking. Joint. Isn't that doesn't tell me anything that makes you. That makes me feel like you're you're backing away from me rather than bringing in excluding than including so. Net Journey. have you had any of those moments? I had one of those moments where I was a PT student and I had a patient in a clinical rotation. Google me. And she came in the next time that she was scheduled and she was like I've listened to seven of your podcast episode and I was like, this is weird. Have you had not where? You're like. Post and now you know me as the clinician like have you had that So I do adults cash and then kids insurance. So the adults for the most part that's how they know me they know me through the lifting community or they found me on instagram so they're coming in like like Oh. Yeah. I know what you're about? Yeah we're coming in. We're GONNA DISH WE'RE GONNA talk about this like I'm ready to go there. Comfortable. But if one of my parents came in and found out that Kinda weird because they don't, they don't see me as anything but my kids physically. I had that pedes PT ahead. One of the DADS who I was like that's kind of like for me. It was cool because it was like a parent who actually was like a researcher WHO's this guy? WHO's GonNa treat my kid. Came in we actually brought me craft beer because he was you do a podcast where you drink beer. You know my kids pizza pt to be happy. Make make sure We're good terms and I was like bringing the bureau you on. But of course I didn't accept it 'cause that'd be accepting gift so at no, except leave that I give extra didn't take that but But yeah. So so really what you just did was I noticed about you you you you built party practice. Socially Responsible, you're saying like lifting community in social media building relationships. So those people are seeking you out or. Meeting you on content you already creating and bringing that in. That's kind of feel like a really. It's really empowering type of practice. Yeah. Definitely, and the thing about it is that I'm not Well, before I used to be inside of my gym running a small clinic, but at this point Kobe nothing. But in general, I'm not pushing numbers in like Oh, you know I'm. Living, and this is the job that I'm doing and who comes to me are the people that I want to treat and I want to help and they want to be helped they wanna be treated by me. So just flows a little easier the problem of. Working in some other facilities where they are numbers driven. Some of these, some of these patients are like cute little ladies and they just want to hang out managed on the couch and live their life when you have a rehab manager saying, Oh, well did you walk into the room We Bill Patient Education did you did you go to the bathroom? He'll go to that like. I can't live the life anymore I won't play that game either. So how did you? How did you build this like? What was the jump was the jump? Did you start this read at a school or this to that type of life? Not at all it's very much related to my chronic illness because at the time when things first started happening, I was working three different jobs. One full time to premiums end some every once in a while seeing somebody cash on the side and then I started having symptoms in issues and not enough spoons and I'll straggling along just dragging and dragging and dragging. And also, along the way my mother got leukemia she didn't make it so. Once. She died. I was like, okay. If this lady could have everything in the world and it's gone in two months like, why am I wasting my time? Wasting my time right now like I'm dragging myself through the mud like I was. It was not a great time mentally physically medically just trash all around. So that was kind of the bigger turning point for me any to clean this up and do for myself, and then expect that the money will come. And it'll follow. Gosh that is such a cool. That's such a cool mindset. Of taking several things again I'm Charlotte if found out about your mom I'm sorry you had to go through that. but you. You use that as a thing, this spring forward, you know your chronic illness situation with losing your mother I can't imagine what that would be like. And you said I'm going to use this to put in perspective not GonNa Wallow. In this, I'm going to put this in perspective and I'm going to redesign what I want to be my future, really easy to say, right look how easy. Probably. Not. Not that easy to do, but you were bold enough to do it. No matter how hard you knew it was gonna be. Yeah. Yes. So that's that's where I'm at now and it took me some time and it took me I. Don't know maybe a year to be totally. Self employed and there's a little bit of luck and there's a little bit of networking obviously especially as a black woman is hard to get capitals hard to get business accounts. So it definitely helped that I. knew people that understand who I was as a commission and really believed in my skills you say luck all I hear is a again you. Knew people who believed in you all here. relationship-building how did you find your patients all this network this community I was in relationship building. Why do people trust you with their time their care and their money? Yeah you build a good relationship. So I mean you can say look I'm not a huge fan of law because I'm like I don't know Luxy. Luck seems to favor hustle a lot and really care what they're doing. So it just so happens those people are super lucky a lot. You know some things can happen appear lucky something along the line you you obviously doing that was showing up and it might have felt like luck but I think we all know has some do with hustle skill and talent. Aright. That it wasn't luck you can be humble or it was a little bit of luck but. That's a great. That's a great story advice. We just had students from university Lynchburg on last week and one of them brought them right onto the show and I said, what's your dream job and she said, I, want to go out and I wanNA treat gymnast and I don't WanNa work in a clinic I want to go from you know gymnastics group or or school program to program but that's probably three five years away and I probably need. So what would you say to someone? Who literally could draw could write down what their dream job would be but had that fear probably that you've tried something similar would you say to someone like that a student like that? The hardest part is making the dream. So you got the hardest part down. Really, and you don't have to know anything you. If you have the big picture down the details, you'll figure you don't have to know anything to start something. I feel like that's where a lot of us I don't know what I'm. GonNa do I have to Chill out you have the idea you have your passion start somewhere maybe find the youth group that nearby and just hang out with them. Build a relationship. That's what more do. You get a boom shock locker. And that's that's kind of what I was telling her I kept asking her I was like well, have you been around gymnast your whole life? Yes. Are you passionate about this? Yes. Do you think a DP dpt education is going to give you enough skills to be able to help people I'm not saying you'll never progress I'm not saying when you start as a PT graduate, you can't learn more but are is. Valuable and she was like well and I said then unity give me a reason why you shouldn't do this. Because I think a lot of times and tell me if this was in your life and then you came overcame it somehow sometimes, we feel myself included. Were waiting for the world or someone to give us permission. It's this. It's in your own head but you're like I can't wait for someone to pat me on the back and tell me that it's OK. Jamaica crazy decision and to be honest the only thing holding you back you did you experience that that that looking for permission? Definitely definitely always, and you feel like i. mean I am I good enough. It's like What's the word validation? You need somebody to validate that you? You are worthy of doing something. I'm guilty of that because it can agree I guilty that I literally run around with an idea that I'm like I. Really think this idea is going to work and I tell five people and if I all five of Mart yes let's go. I'm like. Am I not good enough is the idea not good enough but I know I'm doing it. Cookie watching right live and she said she sharing this with Katie Hickey Lucas and an heart from the asap disabled athletes are you in the sports section? Did you know there was a cig- for? Disabled athletes you know that. Nope as far as community in physical therapy very new to this. Very very now, it's not something that was really talked about in my program, and then as where I work in where it lives nobody talks about that, people wouldn't go home with an I love the triangle here because cookie was episode Numero Uno on this show and cookies just let's personality she's just been around she knows people and people like her I mean with name like cookie how you're not gonna like someone. But yeah, there's a disabled athletes sick man if she's and we'll talk about this off the air but that's a great little community relationship builder Oh. It's a bunch of those people who are literally talking your language some of the time I want to change subjects just a little bit shares with this means. We need access not inspiration. So what does this phrase mean to you? So. It. Just. So you know you get on on the Internet and people love sharing videos and memes and you see I don't know maybe a cute lady Anna Wheelchair and she's like lifting Dumbbell and then the tagline is like, oh, she can do it. So can you? Like we're not, we're not here to serve as inspiration for the able bodied to do better for themselves. That's kind of gross. Like us doing normal things should be normal. So you know it shouldn't be like, Oh, you're so brave for being a relationship with someone that has a disability. Now that just should be normal to us somebody telling me like, Oh, you're so brave you have nerve pain and you're still wearing shoes and lifting weights no that that shouldn't be your source of inspiration. We don't need pity. So that's kind of where that comes from inspiration. Point is like a big cringe in the disability community, and then what access where where can we get better as a society where where, where, where we just had an episode just the other day celebrating the thirty years of the Americans with Disabilities Act and tone of our episode. Then recommend taking a listen because we had a guy on who was at the Capitol building when those famous pictures of the children getting out of their wheelchairs and climbing the. Air That I mean, he was we had those pictures on the screens like I know her he's like this person and I was like, wow. But the tone of that interview was really. Ada Thirty years ago. We need to keep going like not wrath by all means celebrate something that was that was monumentous occasioned thirty years ago. But now it's twenty twenty we gotta keep going. So what does access? What does access look like to you in the future that would be better will be greater. Well. There's little things. So on on a personal individual, little things that we do every day that we can think about people that are not like us it's a hard sell. Sometimes, you have to consider that my life my lived experience is not everybody else's. That's where you need to start. So when I upload a picture Instagram, somebody might be on their phone using a screen reader. They can't see my picture, but they're still enjoying social media, and if I don't put all exit says Marcy is sitting on a bench laughing. The Sun's shining is just gonNA say image might be a person. And now they're experiences. western yeah. So they're simple little everyday things like the adding all techs and video descriptions or when you're uploading trying to get captions and subtitles all of these kind of little things that you might not really think about. Yeah I I mean you're right. As you're saying this, these are the things I don't think about one of the producers of the show makes it a point to share American sign language focused on healthcare providers and she'd smartly does it you know one or two phrases at a time and sure she understands there's people like us out here with short attention spans. Making. That's doing this more than it's doing this or not even doing this not even consciously excluding but not thinking enough of how can I include more? Don't see as you mentioned if there's a disability, you don't see and you don't know what it's like to look at a website, you know an and have to rely on an all text description of a picture. How are you going to be inclusive if you don't know and that's what we have people like you Sam Chairman and Disabled Athlete Geriatric Therapists here. One of my colleagues at Fox rehabilitation and yeah, he agrees with you. He hates being someone's inspiration because he's living his life. Exactly. I'm just existing and I could be thriving if I had a little more access that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Cookie going back pre Ada and remember teaching young patients wheelchairs how to go up and down curbs and stares right I. mean we we all hopefully did that one. AFTERNOON PT School and keep in mind a lot of us is just one afternoon of taking a wheelchair around our local community and PT School and realizing if there's no curb, cut those really obvious ones if you're looking if you're pt but if there's no curb cut if you trying to use mass transit and there's no elevator, the elevator is broken it's okay. Only one stop away that elevator functioning. But that's like ten blocks like one stop away ten blocks. So making sure that there's access and not just inspiration. Definitely and even as it relates to PT School, you know not everybody's program is built the same. Program we brought in you know who are learning neuro they just brought in people from the community like, Hey, these real people this is what they look like this how they live talk to him. In a when we're doing these kids, you go play with them. At marymount university are I remember this one in neuro are Professor Julia Reese several times in in the neuro semester bringing people who were you know had limb loss or people living with different conditions and you WanNa talk about having the full and complete attention of forty PT students. In drop you hear crickets from a mile away when there's a human being sitting in front of you telling a story about how their life is changed. That's different than a video that's different than reading a textbook that is different perspective, and that's when you that's learning moment when you have someone like that. So your podcast talking about that. That's those are learning moments validation for other people who are saying, you know what? Yeah I don't have to. Do this or not do something because I want to. So that's that's acts as an inspiration. Yeah. So and here's the thing that word inspiration in isn't bad. You know there's somebody else that is living their life they're undiagnosed and they see me in no Cool. We're okay there. But when we get to the, you're using something that I'm doing. That's really regular to fuel your own personal motivation. That's when it gets Kinda. Gets, Kinda Weird. Yeah I could see about that intention think of the person this is a person is not something to put on a on a shelf or inspirational poster guess. Y- also wanted to talk about this because you've got personal experience chronic pain doesn't stop people from being a bad ass there we. A that's a nice sound effect. Yeah. Not at all not at all and I it's taken me a couple years but strength wise. I'm getting close to where I was before and it's like you know just an asterix like you can have deadly Pr Asterix if I have enough sleeping on a fresh that did it enough stretching or? From kt tape from muscles that were specializing, it took my meds today. So there's just a little more that I have to do to get there but I I can still get there. You're spending more spoons now. The more the more you use an analogy like that. This is a great way to speak because. I understand why people adopt that whole battery mindset. But I I like the fact that it's in a different using your own term like spoons doesn't make any sense until it makes sense. To us if it's a battery analogy I don't know like now we're talking about energy but you're talking about. A limit on what you can do, and there's X. amount of things in spoon is just this random tangible object that you can picture. That but it doesn't. Somebody, just handing you you're just waking up open your eyes here you go this all you got today. Table and be like I'm super-low today or looking at a table and going, hey, I'm feeling great today and this is this is what I'm able to do. I can't wait. Sam Chop as well. Saying more healthcare providers that have disabilities. It's something that's needed. I. Mean Talk About being able to understand your patient population definitely, and it's it's interesting because I was on that side and I was big treated tons of adult neural spinal cord injury. You know John. Beret all of this life changing life altering kind of conditions in just on one side of it. But now on the other side of it, you know I could see you. Certain ways that we interacted with people that could have been better. And there's certain things that we have looked into. That would have helped somebody out considering the time of day that we're treating them considering what did they have to get done before they see me or figuring out what their goals are and understanding whether or not it's practical or there's something they need to do before that. These are all things that I know now? And that I don't know that I would have known to ask you know after just reading a little bit about the the idea of a spoon any anybody who's working with someone with chronic pain in any capacity one patient on your on your schedule a bunch. Maybe. Even if they don't use this terminology bringing it in being able to utilize that as a way to communicate about this thing, which is hard to verbalize unless you have this abstract term that you get to bring it and say, well, Hey, where where do you have the most spoons? What Day of the week? What time of day after what activities do you? What activities do you have to spend the most to complete, and then how are you doing today right? What what we're supposed to put our notes like a patient was was great at beginning of session doesn't say anything Nation told me they were at fifty percent spoons or fifty percent of what they what they normally would be on a good day at the start of S- at the start of our session. That's that's a more objective way to do as as abstract spoons are it's a more objective way to do it definitely and it also it also it holding encompasses the. Fact that pain is just multifactorial like it's not just you sprain your ankle and the pain is in your ankle these receptors now it's it's deeper than that. If you are hopeless, you're gonNA feel worse if if you feel like you can't fix what you've got going on or you can't make any progress gonNa feel worse if if you're scared if there's fear of All around worse. All important. All important to pay attention to as we go towards the ICS model paying attention to the entire individual art. So your your podcast hosts, right? Chance to pitch you got pitch like what's coming up or why should people tune in You know that's typically what we do is we always want to pitch so I'll give you some background music. Brought you know one. Girl lift available on your favorite podcast platform. Why should people tune in and again for me your podcast is perfect to prescribe for patients with chronic pain people who lift this. Perfect. So, what are some things coming up with the podcast that you've got going on you want to listen to? Our last couple of episodes we went through kind of the big issue of the error rate racism and all of that. So we kind of talked about that a little bit and that was that was pretty great. It was just amongst ourselves. As we interview people with all sorts of different disability. So we just did one with something has a. Spinal cord injury and she's in adapt powerlifter. Skis. And also hikes. So that's pretty awesome and it's every two weeks but I will say bare minimum bare minimum. If you rely scrolling hard I, don't know where to start what should I do just head episode twelve how to treat your disabled friend able bodied not able bodied visible invisible disability like that's. That's kind of our our our touchstone episode right there like that. Check it out disabled girls who left. Dot Com and you're saying recently, you guys got into talking about one of the issues that. Pretty prevalent right now discussing racism. We cross paths on twitter and you said, you know what you know what you need. You need more black and Brown people on your show and I said great yet. Now, you gotta sign up and you got show up and you. Think. That's a good example and I started looking back at past episodes and I was reflecting our profession, a bunch of white people mostly dudes in fact, on our show and and leaders of profession. We made a conscious effort a couple years ago where we need more females in here. And another wakeup call now are saying, hey, why aren't we seeking those things out because we're just GONNA continue to be a reflection. On on saying, Hey, you need more black and Brown people and then thank you for showing up in teaching us about all the things you taught today. What did you guys into what? What was the some of the things that you talked about some of the sentiments because you got a great mix of CO host as well? Yeah, right. So I'm in south Florida Mary Beth is in California and close in Iowa. So we are in a totally different wavelengths myself and Mary Beth while I'm the child of Immigrants Mary Beth Immigrated from the Philippines close born and raised. So we're like all over the place in lived experiences. And the thing that we all came down to really realize that our education has failed us. We don't really know what happened. We don't really know who we are where we came from a to me I just learned like Oh slavery end and then everyone was free. Martin Luther King you just fast forward. How many years? What happened to be tweeting? So understanding how that plays into everything and how that plays into. Even me today trying to go to a doctor in understanding why doesn't a doctor take me seriously I'm literally medical professional sitting in front of a doctor like, Hey, listen I have neuropathy. Kind of drops in they're still not taking me seriously. Why is that? There's a history there. There's a reason. Whether whether whether it is. Recognized or not, and we had an episode earlier there's bias whether you recognize it or not. Exactly. Exactly. So it's the biggest thing is just understanding that how we live in whether or not it doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter if your child vibrant immigrants as man if you're black, it does matter if you're white. We are living in a coordinated system. This was the world was created to benefit a certain people old white dude's it own slaves right and we kinda jumps from there and just acting like that's not a truth is just destroying any future. So the claim that and understand it. That's where we came from. That might not be who we are today. That's all right. Like. That well, good on you guys for for for tackling that because it's it's not the easiest thing to talk about and do it well, because you want it to be productive, you want people to walk away and learn and say, well now, how can I be better? You don't use for continuing that conversation and I wanted to make sure we got a chance to mention that because I think it's important which episode was that was that a recent one? Yeah. That was the recent one. So that would have been I think twenty, six and twenty, seven, two separate ones on it actually. Perfect. Are you ready to play three questions? Sure pressure. Here we go. Let's. Three questions brought to you by our friends at Arias medical staffing. Again, if you're looking for a position graduating from PT school a lot of people post today about passing, they're taking the empty I'm jumping ahead to pass in the N. p. t. e. because I think he did I feel good about to do what you WanNa do you WanNa? Do it a? You are a US medical dot com hashtag travel pt all different settings to a lot of times people think travel physical therapy outpatient. Ortho. That's a frequently asked question they get it's not all different settings really specific when he women's health, do it in Idaho I don't know maybe you do you are a US medical dot com travel PT's typically short term assignments, but they do hand turn into long term assignments to use as I say, use it as a test drive around the country wherever you want to go and test in different locations you can work again you are a US medical dot com are here we go quite a three questions. First question is aware question. You said You are south Florida through and through. PT, school living there. But if you could go anywhere, you want for three months and do your thing where would you want to go in the US? And the US. Listen I'm the goldilocks when it comes to climate can't be too hot I'm photosensitive can't be too cold then I'll get Rena so. who's perfect San Francisco, San? Francisco have you been yet been there just right sweater weather carl the fog. Yeah. Go. Yeah. All right. That's number one number two is a what question. What something you've watched listened to or read that you think the audience he gets value out of movie podcast book quote whatever watched or read. Well into short stories lease lately, and there's a book called disability visibility by Alex Wong and that is amazing. So was a short stories of lived experience people with different. Disabilities just came out like a month or so ago I like it, we're GONNA. Put It on the list we've got we've got Amazon that we collect these answers from everybody we ask and we make us rest responding is helps build realis- Third GonNa Mention we start, and we end with people who is someone the audience should know more about. I don't know I mean I guess they already know about me so I can't say me. Yeah but who else? One of your co host. yeah. I'd say my co hosts? 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Ethical Practice, Classroom to Clinic & Finding your own Career Path LIVE from Quinnipiac

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Ethical Practice, Classroom to Clinic & Finding your own Career Path LIVE from Quinnipiac

"Keep growing, obviously, all of these lists here sounded like they never just got stuck even if you have a job you love, you can do so many other things take CU purses. Learn a different way to use a treatment. Just keep growing to Connecticut. For other live episode at Quinnipiac university fun to say difficult to spell a really really great episode with a lot of energy from these students and faculty they got involved take. Listen to that episode brought to you as always by Owens recovery. Science single source for looking for certification in personalized blood flow restriction rehabilitation training and the equipment unique to apply. Find them online at Owens recovery. Science dot com. And there's always episodes are free. The best way you can repay us for giving. You this info and the insight is tell a friend Tele colleague Tila classmate, a co worker, whatever you wanna do or share something on the socials at PT podcast. Broadcasting physical therapists around the world hurt in over one hundred thirty five countries with more than one million downloads and counting is this is the p. T- pint cast the best conversations happen at happy hour. Welcome to hours. May I introduce to introduce you to here's your host physical therapist, Jimmy MacKay. Gentlemen, doing it live again here at Quinnipiac university in Connecticut Quinnipiac poll shows that they're excited to be here record. Here. I was doing some research walk into the hallways and lender's bagels. Yeah. Murray lender, the founder of lender's bagels, some people are nodding. Yeah. Quinnipiac connection also vineyard vines. Yes. The whales on the shorts a lot of pink. Popped collars, Chopin Murray founded that and netter netters anatomy, a lot of the artwork adorning. The alway related had some interaction with the medical school here. That's the connection. That's what we're doing the show live from today. And we've got the students and attendance. Perfect. All right. So we're going to bring up our very first guest. Let's bring up Jay Meyer sincere for. Jay good to see you again hot hot off a CSM. And we're we're we're doing this right afterwards. How was your CSM? We'll start with that. It was awesome. Yeah. Like a lot of great presentations networking, and plus you get to be around ten thousand or more people that think the same way you do sixteen thousand look at ju just out of curiosity. How many students have been to this ESM or any CSM? All right. A couple good. I suggest going d do you suggest going to one as a student? Absolutely. Yeah. What do you think students get out of it? I think they get the see from all ends of the spectrum from the programming, and like the higher end courses that are available to networking with different employers to just seeing everyone interacting combined and collaborate plus the nightlife, plus the Night Live now, I'll be honest loud. The conversations at night land for sometimes just as or more knowledgeable than the presentations because their conversations not presentations, right? We're talking about that before we hit record. So giving your background a little bit for people who don't know. What what do you do here? Quinnipiac euro-menagerie faculty in like, the Musco skeletal curriculum. Luckily, I'm able to teach in muscular one two and three and I got the teach you guys about the patient experience building that therapeutic alliance and the soft skills a physical therapy as well as kind of some mentoring skills and a couple of lectures on what to do after you graduate besides pay down your debt. Yes. Get on that right away. Take a vacation. So let's talk about that. What what lessons? Do we learn their of the what's next thing? So it's an interesting lecture because everyone graduates PD school, and they think well, I need to get a job get a job to work. Sweating you to do. Well, you do, but we also kind of guide you on what to look for inner job what to look for in a career what continuing education courses to take. We give you a brief guide. If you want to go into a managerial role or open up your own business as well. As we kind of talk about that school is not over when you start when you graduate from here that you need to keep learning mentoring and growing. Yes. Mentoring very important you'll hear that seven times or more in two weeks and during the podcast next week as well lifelong learners, right? It's like the phrase that we like to throw around a long, you're not. You're you can't stop learning. Not there's that that test anxiety, though, that's not as bad, although you do still wake up in a cold, sweat, even after you graduate thinking you've missed an assignment that's still real still happen to me a little PTSD from PT school that sounds fun. It sounds like a real applicable thing to to give to the student. What year do you give that what your classes is getting that it would be the D two year? So it'd be there right before they go on right in the middle of before they go onto their last clinicals, it's kind of ingrained in their skull. We make them save onto that presentation pull it out during their clinical. So when they prepare for the next step. It's there, and we highlight a few major slides to develop your growth, and your next step is well, any other advice, you give the students. You know, I tell my story frequently of being kind of a weirdo. I can say it radio. J P T, but I always like to to phrase it. There's a straight line between two points. Right. We learned that in like third grade. So the reason I tell my story is hopefully someone out there who might be a little bit nervous about where they fit in PT. You can bring anything you want to the profession like I love the fact that they call it a license to practice PT. You can take that license anywhere. You wanna go? So you can bring anything that you want to the profession. In fact, that's the only way I think the profession will grow and advance and feel a lot like what's outside of school, which is the world. So I'm glad that you bring that to them just before they go out to their clinicals. That's cool little Homebrew as well. Big over. Yeah. I like my craft beer, and I've been brewing for seven years. Wow. Probably talked to you about that for another hour. All right, unfortunately. Or fortunately, we get the focus on the growth, and mentorship. Yeah. That's more important. Hind you. There's a case of beer. I don't see. I don't see anything. I don't see any some of the names of the beer's any funding because you always wanna put your own stamp on it, like, what are some of the names of the beers that you've brood can, you know, real names just a couple things that I do for fun with friends. That's a lot of work for me. I typically just by the beer, but hey, I appreciate you going out there and putting putting forth the effort manual therapy. Teach that involve with with with manual therapy education classroom to clinic, how do you teach that? Well, it's actually great and very unique. So I don't just teach manual therapy manual therapy is a part of everything that we have here. So it's great that I'm a clinician working forty hours or more a week, and I get to work with all the other professors in the team, and we come up with what literature says, and I get to incorporate what we all do in clinical practice. So it's fun to show everyone here that you're not just learning what the research says. But you're learning to exactly what we do in clinic. You're learning the small little pearls of like you put your hand. Here. You do that to assessing and reassessing. So it's hard to say on a podcast. Exactly. What I what I do from there. But it's amazing that you could take in the skills that you do with your patients and colleagues every single day, and then teach them the students. It's not like I'm just going and saying this is how to do stretches shoulder, but I never do that. Because I literally stretched shoulders and rebuts all day. Rub degree love that one students as soon as you start right? As people find out, you're like, oh, you know, this has been hurting a little bit, right? You get that. Once you go home. How long you been here? Quinnipiac wall. Well, I'm a graduate from Quinnipiac university PT program. Very proud graduate. I graduated in no comment, but I've been teaching six years, and it's been an amazing six years, and it's awesome to be threaded through all the different years, a curriculum and to get to work with a lot of the different faculty on many different projects. So it's an amazing experience. What's sets Quinnipiac apart from other programs? What makes it different? What makes it special? I don't think you have enough time. All right. All right. A couple of the big things is the collaboration the way. Everyone works together is unbelievable. The academic and clinical preparation of the students to enter the workforce by far I think is top notch from your integrated clinical visits from the style of your examinations from every aspect of it is to grow the clinicians not only to pass a board exam. But to be competent in the clinic in whatever setting that you partake in here for that. All right. It's every time we bring on a guest they've got to leave kind of a mic drop moment. You ready for your mic drop moment? I didn't prepare you for this. We call it. The parting shot the parting shots brought to you by the Brooks institute of higher learning and innovator in providing advanced posts professional education. Brooks IHL offers continuing education courses in numerous specialty areas. Six residency programs and Owen PT fellowship as well as challenging but rewarding student internships. The IHL specializes in the translation of information from evidence to patient management. Learn with the IHO can do for you and support your professional development. Good Brooks, IHL dot org. So what would you want the profession aimed at students since we're sitting here in front of so many. What's like, you're the one thing you hammer home. What's your parting shot? You guys are never done learning. It's a lifelong event love that. Are let's hear for J retired PT, drink beer and record. It's like craft beer for your ears. This is the PT pint cast, ladies, gentlemen, let's here for. Our next guest student here at Quinnipiac. Coordinator, Phyllis students, really supportive. Hello you. Thank you, very. Thank you very much. This is a PT podcast. I we've done twenty four twenty five live shows at schools. First time someone has made home baked cookies. Thank you for that on. There's one thing. I learned on my clinical visit it's that moods. Drastically changed when you're hungry. So I thought buttering you up down not going anywhere for awhile grab a Snickers or you can grab cookies. So what year are you? What's your story? I'm a second year student here. But I've been here for six years now so a longtime riding that out what'd you study undergrad p pre PT or therapy. So the way that does the program is that it's basically an accelerated, you get in from high school, and as long as you maintain the grades that you need then you can kind of just start grad school immediately without reapplying or anything, which was fantastic way to maintain the grades. I'd try. Yeah. We brought you up here because we wanted you to share information things that you've learned not only the. People in the room. But of course, when this gets released with podcast, so some lessons learned some advice that you'd give to either other students or to other pre PT students 'cause we have a lot of those listening to this show too. So what do you what do you got what you want to go first? Well, I learned a lot on my clinical. Visit I think that would be my first clinical experience was the most I opening for me. What was the setting? I was in an outpatient orthopedics that did a lot of sports, but also a lot of your typical joint replacements things like that. And I had I had a wonderful experience. It was very eye-opening with very different touching real patients. And the first time I felt an Enfield. I think I had an epiphany. So that was really. Yeah. It's huge. Like you. See I oh, she was wonderful show. Yeah. Meghan murphy. She's pregnant now she does she just got pregnant after after she finished with me because she was like I can do now. So she how did she had time? So so that's that's exciting. She was wonderful at star PT and Branford, which is my hometown. So that was nice. I had very short commute. Thank you PT program for doing that for me. But it was it was really wonderful. That's not the setting that. I see myself in. But I really I it was a very valuable, it's cruel. So let's do a expectation in reality. Okay. So expectation of PT school. But then when you got here, what's something, you're like, whoa. Did not expect this expectation of PT school would be that. I thought that I was going to breeze through kind of as easily as undergraduate breezy. It's like in classes optional just as long as you study for the exam like you study, you know, it's kind of out of your brain. You don't have to retain anything. That's classes are there like that reality, very different. Because if you forget something, and then you go later on your hands on a pay. Patient, and it's really easy to if you don't know that kind of be incorrect and make mistakes and the patients rely a lot on you. And I kind of that was the biggest eye opener is that you're the health professional that is giving them the most time of day. I was in a physician run clinic. So every single patient. I saw had already seen a physician and they were amazed that we did a forty five minute of Al as opposed to a five minute entire session. And that was great. They really opened up a lot. They talk to you. And the things you say really matter so knowing what you talk about being confident and the things that you say is very important. And I think Quinnipiac did a fantastic job of making me feel prepared for that. It's your for the. That's got to be a fun experience. I contact you're saying we got to actually spend a lot of time with the with the patients, it's a big difference huge difference. And I really like I didn't know that as much. I mean, I've obviously gone to the doctor before I've sat in waiting rooms. I've waited forever. Just for them to barely give me the time of day rush. Meet there was as possible being in an outpatient setting was amazing for the first time because I really saw all the nooks and crannies of how that worked, and it was really cool, and especially as a student because you do have that time to give your patients, which is valuable for me as a learner to to say, okay. What's going on? I really have a long time to evaluate you to learn to kind of think through this medical mystery. We have going on even if they were already diagnosed by Dr my really encouraged me to not look at that. And to kind of just make my own unbiased judgment. And I was really cool when it matched up because I was like diagnostician. Yes. Awesome. Which was that's cool. So you mentioned outpatient orthopedics, great experience. But not really where you want to. Oh, which is fine tests a lot. But there's eighteen sections in the, but there's a thousand different facets of what you can do. What are you interested in? What do you think the future holds? Well, my story is kind of a little bit similar to yours when I first went to college. It was not equinox back, and it was not for physical therapy. And then I ended up transferring, but not technically transferring starting from scratch at Quinnipiac because that's the way it has to do you have to go through the undergraduate in order to be in the grad program. So I completely changed my mind undesired your major before I wanted to be a cardiothoracic surgeon. I have no idea why I just thought that would be great and your hand. I just was like I want to do that. And then I was like I do not and the anatomy lab where we're with cadavers really confirmed that for me that I could not do patient, but I was at the university of Mont actually on a full swimming scholarship because I've been passionate some Ryan tire life. I actually still coach for team locally. So I think that my passion is going to be hopefully aquatic. Was the neat. What's yours from team Hopkins? Mariners swim team go baby. I was from Kush. I was in school, and I don't want to brag. But we have the coolest name ever the holy mackerels. Not even making it up. You can go now one can mackerel swim their fish are they fast very fast. Yeah. Well, the Mariners faster. Yes. Much fast. So aquatics this'll be kind of like the summation. What's how's that going to look for you? What do you want it to look like, I don't really know? I just personally. And the reason I coach is this because I love it. But my coach now is actually trying to get into that sort of he's trying to kind of delve into the physical therapy world where he ends up opening a full aquatic center and having you know, physical therapy there and things like that. And I'm like, oh, that'd be awesome. Like already hired me like doing doing four year interview. Like, you know, I'm awesome. I definitely think that I I at least found from working with patients who are particularly athletes on my last clinical visit that I kind of don't wanna work with athletes, even though I love it. And I was an athlete myself. I'm really passionate about people who. Are limited in their function in their day to day life, who I really disabled in that way. So I think just the, you know, the feeling of the anti gravity that freeness on your joints. How it feels so nice. That would really make a big impact on somebody who has a difficult time walking and doing things like that. That's what I think would be the most rewarding and you're comfortable in the waters Tribune the lottery, I'll j I don't ever wanna wear you. Don't prune Puna after like an hour. Just out of curiosity. What was your stroke, which is the distance freestyler? Nice here. There we go. I'm like, I can do the like the easy thing. But just for a long time real slow by those slow twitch muscles, baby. That is what I'm all. Yeah. What anything else you want to get into another lessons better? I don't want to cut you off because you know, it. Okay. Are you ready for your parting shot? No, no, good. This is the parting shots. I never prepa. Guess it said we do this on every episode. This is not a surprise. But what would you want? What's what's your what's your lasting thing that you'd want the audience to know or pay attention to from your experience, whatever you do be very passionate about it? And if you decide that what you're doing is not what you want to do then you can always change, especially when you're young. And then when you're working with patients be confident and know what you're talking about coordinator for Courtney. Like what you hear tell a friend or leave a review on nineteenth or Google play. We're back. Let's get back to the show. All right. Quinnipiac what's here right now? Bring up the share beyond your best spin your best behavior. Kathy. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Jimmy. It's great to meet you great to be on the show. Thank you. Thank you for letting me come to your campus. I appreciate that. So what's your what's your one sentence job is can you fit into one sentence with all the things that you do hear a little bit of everything and a lot of nothing. Okay. See that's why you get to be the chair when you can do something like that. So chair the program. And what else do you get to do here as well? I get teach my class this afternoon on teaching professional issues too. So I just got Courtney and probably half the audience we're in class. I teach pharmacology, you know, it's all about drugs is all about drugs. So didn't know we're going to go that direction. But medical marijuana coming up Begum. Sure, that's it's somehow integrated in the class you've got to bring it up because depending on where the students are going to wind up they might interact with that. How do you go with that? What's interesting? I haven't really included it in the curriculum per se, but there's going to be a big motion in the house of delegates at next actually probably about marijuana and cannabis and oils and things like that. Because it is an impact to a number of states where it's legalized if you were driving in Connecticut, you saw the sign sign right on ninety five right? Sixty miles legal. We'd really that's a marketer thinking hard on make making sure paying attention where is it legal in Massachusetts. Massachusetts ought to know that better Google a better. What what do you think's going to come out of that? But I know I know you're not hold you. The prediction what your guests? Well, the interesting thing is I also used to work on the ethics and judicial committee ABT. So I think the biggest issue is impaired practitioner and impaired patient. So it doesn't matter. But at some point if somebody is using even medical marijuana. I think you really do have the potential of having an impaired patient, and if you're working with an impaired patient there's the risk of injury. There's just no other way around it. And then if it's on the practitioner side, obviously, there's a huge problem issue. Yep. Wow. Didn't even think about that. That's why you're here. I have job this think about the. So you mentioned ethics committee ethical practice. Why what are you passionate about their why I believe there's lots of ways that we can practice ethically. And I think that the only way we can get everybody on the ethical bandwagon is to is to model it and to really offer what you're looking at as well as how you interpret things, you can see something you think might be unethical. But if you don't know the whole background, so you have to be able to ask questions one of the questions, I asked to the class this today was I said, well when you're out in clinical, did you see anything that might you say. What's the answer? And the answer is there's a couple of shakes, but you may not know everything, but as a student, you don't always say anything, but are you going to do that when you're practitioner, are you going to just let it go slide or you're gonna ask questions? The best thing is to ask a question. Gee, I didn't learn it that way. Can you explain to me why we're doing it this way? I thought that I heard this. Can you show me where I can find more information on that? What you just said is fantastic. And I want to reiterate that phrasing. It as a question is the best way. I maybe knew a few students when I was a PD student who phrase it as a statement to their CI prominent the best thing to tell someone who's your clinical instructor. How it going to be or how it is frisbee has a question is a great way to bring it up and still keeps you in that role of of saying, hey, I'm one hundred percent sure. But is this because you you might not know the whole situation. That's pretty interesting. You bring that up service is something I wanted to talk to you about what's what's service, and the profession media services, something I think we should all do in the profession either to give back. To the profession or to give back to an area of our practice. A number of you have worked with Michelle Brogan doing the little kids with our little go baby. Go I talked to Jimmy earlier on that. I my my service when I first started practicing because I worked in the area of burnt care was due burn king the camp every summer and to spend a week with the kids in our job or my job was to make sure everything was adapted. So they could go hiking or ghost paddling or go, swimming or dance at the dance. And that's really a way of giving back. My service now is predominantly the profession. I spend a lot of time at APA. That's great. That you bring that up. Go baby. Go head coal Galloway on the show numerous times that program is fantastic. We had represented PT. Who's actually in charge of the Travis mills foundation Travis mills was a staff sergeant who had all four limbs amputated and that did not slow him down. So he's got a camp similar to what you're talking about for for veterans and their families, which I love about that. They don't leave anybody out because that's part of the care team. And the other reasons that you think students should should partake in service while they're still a student 'cause you got you have tons of free time. Right. Yeah. Tons of that. But it's still important. I think he learned a lot from that. Yeah. I mean, I think providing service offers you the opportunity of seeing what you can do is therapist that isn't related to an exercise program or wound care or strengthening. I think that service provides you a big look at society, and what you might really want to try to change because I think we can change the world better together. You got clapped for that. Right. She's. So you're the chair the program here head honcho. What why do you like that role? What do you what do you get to do? And that's a unique vantage point, you get to see things kind of on a macro, and you're still in the classroom micro level. What excites you about that? I mean, I think the the best thing about being in the chair position is to really work with faculty. I mean to win and I were just talking the other day about where he's got some leadership roles coming up at eight and what he wants to do had a meeting with another faculty member today about where their research line was what did they need for me to help them facilitate getting their first article published so I mean, I think that's what I really liked. So I think that rolls dementia ship right along from there. What J didn't tell you is that Jay was one on? I vary. I students in classes have you still here. And he's still here any still calls me and asks me questions, which is really pretty funny. But he's still does that also goes back to lifelong learning, and you're still a student even though you're an educator is that you're still trying to figure. Out. And maybe you're submitting a paper. And that's the first time you've done it. It's good to still have those that circle that you kind of build still in contact with a lot of my professors from go on a regular basis, and they really hammered home even from the first year. Like, look you're going to be my colleague in the blink of an eye. Like PT school is long. It's a long March. Right. Yeah. Feels like it's going on forever. But it does kind of come up quick. It's on on this gone. But keep those connections. Right. If you have if you have a bond with someone keep that because you'll be able to utilize that and strange enough, you'll be able to kind of lend some help the other way. If you've got some experiences for them this great. I think what I tell the students today. I said I made a mistake. I I do some pretty 'em work, and I had my chart reviewed, and I made a mistake. Learn from this mistake, and you're like, you know, self aware enough to bring that up because you knew you learn from it they learned from everybody learns from their own mistakes. I think that we often think because many of the students are far smarter than I ever was aren't used to having it come so hard and. Seeing some of those first bad grades or the first thing that they really didn't understand is really hard for all of us. It's hard for us to see it as faculty because we know you're struggling so hard to do. Well, but we also know that the mistakes are going to make you better. And some of the worst mistakes, you make what you think are your worst are going to be the best things that ever happened to this is the place to make the mistakes, of course, by the time you get here. You don't want to make mistakes you want to be completely perfect. Try just gonna knock it out of the park. It's going to be super breeze. But this is the place to make mistakes because there's at least a net here right in a great place to learn you ready for your parting shot. I'm always ready for a parting shots what I'm talking about. Right there. 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And also there's a little bit of nightlife absolute in a lot of learning during the day. But also it's New Orleans, but we were hanging out at something a love to talk about which was a fundraiser for an organization Steve Gleason, Gleeson Gleeson was a New Orleans Saints football player who was then diagnosed with LS after he retired. We throw big all Bank when we had Sean Payton, the coach of the saints with some saints players who look large on TV. And then you're staying next like the punter and he's like eleven feet tall. And I'm like who's that guy? Like, a tight end punter, bro. So we were hanging out and raised one hundred sixteen thousand dollars in one night. So I want to thank you for coming out to that. That was a great night. That was a great event that you put on. It was great to see the PT community coming together. The saints players, Sean painting that was there just all four calls. And I I loved that. That's what it was. We took over a bowling alley down the street from the conference, and we're like, hey, we want to make sure PT's give something to the city. Besides just showing up and filling the hotels and taking a lot of a lot of birds. That's great. But let's give some into a homegrown organization. So thank you for that look at it do something with Steve again in the future. So that'll be announced here. I can't say what it will be. But it'll be pretty cool. So I'll let you know. So what's your what's your role here? At Quinnipiac, which you're one cent and try to follow that one sentence job description there but give you the best shots. It's tough. So I'm clinical faculty here at Quinnipiac in the Musco, skeletal curriculum. So all three must go skeletal courses. I teach in all those courses. And so what years are are you having a you experience much all year. So we actually just had lectures morning for the first year students. Doing a little post surgical lecture. Then I see them actually at the end of this year. So they're still d- ones. And then I see them their third year. So kind of like the beginning and the end of the curriculum. So what I love most is seeing that growth so seeing the growth from the first year. And then seeing you at the end, it's just amazing to see that growth in terms of their knowledge their clinical skills professionalism. Just everything seeing them coming from like newbie students to being professional deer in headlights to super cocky confident Ryan, so you guys literally the end of the spectrum both ways that is a a great position to be in my book ending PT school because the beginning super new and exciting and scary. And then you realize it gets worse. But then at the end, you're like, hey, it's almost done. And that's when you get to kind of hang out with them. We wanted to talk about just different ways that you can formulate or construct your own career. It's not predetermined. And and you kind of art example, of that so outside of just the classroom like how are you involved with interacting with society? Why think really when we get out there, and we're physical therapist. I told the story actually this morning. I started treating more in the neuro round. So I like passion for treating spinal cord patients did a lot of prosthetics and did that for a year, and then things kind of shift. I saw some surgical patients and everyone in the rehab unit. Was scared treat like the rotator cuff repairs and the because I go this is pretty cool. Like, it gets these patients better. And then the more I started working and the acute back injuries in the hospital. I would see all the, nurses who are transferring patients, and I was like, oh, this is kind of fun, and then went down the Ortho route and did the specialization and then was treating clinician for ten years. And then started teaching as a part time faculty member and then found my passion with teaching. So then decided to go back to school for two more degrees. And. Became fulltime faculty so things constantly evolve. And that's what I love about our profession is that it's endless what you can do a lot of and then and then, and then is what I heard there, which is cool. So any idea that any of that stuff would be there when you start it definitely not definitely not? And that's the cool part? And where are you are now couple years, it could be and then I also did this where I think a lot of people focus on did myself. It was going to be graduation. Get a job find something hold onto that. But really it was an and then and then and then for you, and they always say the cliche like commencement means beginning not the end. But you're just glad to be done with tests that is the end of tests unless you go back for some more degrees. And then you jump in to some more of that. But you you can you can be specified or general as you want you work with specific what dance dance population. My saying that right probably I can't dance in case. You guys are wondering that's the truth. But how how do you interact? Yes. So the freshman terms dance medicine dance messing got. So I did have a passion for treating dancers about eight years ago and furthered my education did some continuing education. And because there are a lot of people. This goes back to my is a dance instructor a lot of answers. Get injured. Ask me what's going on? I realized that there weren't a lot of PT's who felt comfortable treating dancers. So went and further magic ation and kind of felt that there was a need. There's a space for PT's in that field. Same thing goes for like gymnastics, medicine realm, just an area that isn't served a lot by lot of PT's. So I think there are opportunities within our society that there are a lot of people who need our help and can use our help. And there are more of these specialty areas that a lot of PT's going into, you know, like you mentioned triathletes who knows ten years from now, we might have PT's for bowlers. We're expanding housing. You never know. I did an interview month ago, east sports. We play like online video. She's an east board heard about that. Yeah. She told me so they have online video game competitions. Right. Do what the buy in like for your team to get in? I was like, I don't know like a thousand dollars, and she's like it was like over a million dollars. And I was I was stupified when home played some pacman try to figure it out realize up's still awful, but you can be as Nisha as you want. And that just goes back to were talking about earlier, there's a straight line between any two points. Right. So you start with PT you can go in any direction. And we were talking about this over over drinks at CSM, if you're burned out in this profession, it's on you. Right. It's on you at that moment to then say, well, what what am I gonna get ignited about was is being an instructor an educator. What you thought it would be before you started. I guess yes. And no, okay. So. So I guess the teaching aspect because I was part time for ten years. You know that was expected, but definitely the other kind of bigger responsibilities as a fulltime faculty member that was definitely new for me. But it's great. Because again, you're always learning like we talked about before is you're always growing. There's always new challenges to kind of overcome. And but I love what I do. Yeah. Awesome. Has he is an instructor. Good. Yeah. That's gotta be. Sorry. How long did you say you've been doing it? So I was part time for ten years. And then I've been time for three years now, so interactions with former students has got to be fun to seeing what they've gone, I imagine that's going to be some cooler actions when you bump into someone like where where have you been and they've got fantastic stories. Like, I'm sure all of you will gotta be highlight. You're ready for your parting shot. Sure. The parting shots brought to you by the Brooks institute of higher learning and innovator in providing advanced post professional education. Brooks IHL offers continuing education courses in numerous specialty areas. Six residency programs and Owen PT fellowship as well as challenging but rewarding student internships. The IHL specializes in the translation of information from evidence to patient management. Learn with the IHL can do for you and support your professional development. Go to Brooks IHL dot org. All right, Dwayne, no pressure. Parting shot. What are you? All right. This is going to go out to my outpatient orthopedic folks, don't forget that you need to combine your manual therapy skills with your exercise the pendulum can shift in different directions. I feel like we're going all in on exercise killing forget that. There is that manual component as well. As treating the patient in front of you and interacting with that patient. Let's hear forty-one. Keep up with the show online. PT pine cast dot com and on the socials at PT pine cast guests here tonight acquitted peac is onstage right now. Jim welcome to the show. Thank you. What do you do? I am an occupational therapist with FOX rehab all UPC's you will be best friends with your OT counterparts. Yes. I worked in impede Patrick's. When I first graduate is my second job after school and learned a ton from OT's. I was I was like PTA everything super khaki. And then I started watching the OTC interact. I was like what does down because they were masters. Thank you learn from each other like all of honestly, my best co worker friends are all because you are constantly working together bouncing ideas off of each other. And it's it's great. But it's kind of funny to say like, oh, yeah. Like who you go into the AO Tae conference with I'm like myself because I just know PT's. So just me you hang with. Cook this. All right. It's all right. I call them cousins. Okay. I think OT or similar then OT PT SAP. It's like just as three circle like ven diagram like there's crossing similar, but not the same. But the similarities for things like mentor ship they cross over. So with FOX rehabilitation, which is actually where I work is mentioned at the top of the show director communications, we saw that as a practice a long time ago and made sure like, hey, if you if you come here to work with us, you have to make sure that something like this exists because you're going to have individuals down the hall like every day at your Beck and call and then you graduate, and they're not there anymore. So where you're going ask that question before you get there? What am I gonna do when I get lost in confused, so big reason for mentor ship? What do you got? I think especially the type of mentor ship because you will find places. Oh, we offer a mentor, and it's a buzzword. Yeah. So you're maybe a skilled nursing facility outpatient. You have a mentor. There crossed the clinic. They have their own productivity. They are working hard. And then you're like I need help. Where are you will they have to treat? Also, what's nice about our company, and what's different and good to look for is with our mentorship. The mentor wants to be there. We have to apply. It's not just old. Hey, you're the P, you know, the most you're stuck with your your the mentor? So people want to do it. We also have a reduction in our productivity. So if you're having trouble, especially a certain client, you're really struggling with our mentor. I will go out. I have a mentally right now. She told me I could shout out, Nicole, Nicole Moro. She's awesome. And she, you know, she has a difficult client. She calls me up. Jen. I need you to come observe this case, I'm really having hard time. I don't know what to do with them. So I have the time. I have the productivity reduction I can drive out and see her one on one instead of reading her note and trying to figure out what's going on. So it's a great question to ask before you get there is what I'm trying. That's the thing to ask. What else should they be asking? Because organizations would look at higher you. And man, they will try to hire you. You'll get courted. It will they will be you will get a lot of stuff in the mail once they find out that you're about to graduate. What are be picky? What should they ask? I think it's also important to ask. What is your mentors background? You know, where where are they coming from? How are they going to help you in particular? And if maybe you don't get along with your mentor is they're not get along with them, but are vibe with them. And you're needing something more. Is there someone else in? Yeah. Is there someone else you can change it up? You shouldn't be afraid of your mentor in any way, you are their colleague your your equal to them. They're just there to kind of assist you and guide you so what happens if it's not going. Well, ask these questions because you can once you start, and it's not how you Soleil late. Yeah. Can't do that. We'll say my first job. I did not ask a lot of questions and started at skilled nursing facility, and I was orientational day too. Was here's eight people in eight hours have at it. And it was well, how do I do that eight people eight hours will their Medicaid? You could see two at once. I'm like, I don't even know how to see one at one. So I don't know how I'm gonna see to ones. So it was really nice. And that's another thing not trying to plug FOX. But there's a nice slow ramp up, especially for the men tease where you have. Oh my gosh. I think it's more than four weeks. I think he's eight weeks to get to your contract quotas. So you're slowly learning. It's not throwing eight people at you. And it's like, okay, go figure it out. I've heard stores students like okay paychecks your every other week. There's the bathroom in your first patients walking into nine minutes pretty much how I felt so I really try to when new grads especially because I am a CI with FOX an I am a men t-, especially with the students like ask these questions. What is your first week? Like are. They just going to throw you to the wolves and say, good luck in later. It also looks good when you're looking for you're asking these questions, right? Green flag on the the. Clinics and the practices end. And I'll say the last thing I want to say is asked to shadow, and if the organization says no red flag, like no, I don't want you to come in like seaworthy foods going to get cooked. Right. Where you order off the menu like I'm just going to take a little look here. And if if the answer's no why what's your parting shot, which will do sound effect anything? Nope. No pressure the parting shots. What do you got? Last thing. You want students to think about looking for that J O B last thing to think about I'm going to say keep growing and looking for obviously all of these panelists here sounded like they never just got stuck even if you have a job you love, you can do so many other things takes the EU courses. Learn a different way to use a treatment. Just keep growing surfer. Jen. Love the P T pine cast. Yes. The port the show by telling a friend or by weaving a review on one thousand nine hundred Google play told you guys who's going to be here. So what what questions do you have? This is the whole point. You guys are actually the star of the show is the audience. I want to know what you guys were thinking about your professors will be judging you in grading you individually on the quality of your questions. So what's something you've always wanted to know or something that you heard tonight and made you say someone's giving me like the weird pace. I saw that. So who's got no one wants to be. I there we go. What's your name? And what year are you? Steve McCormack third year student, and what you want to know. Difficult for them to take down for that. I was just wondering if any you guys have been particular either failure of hardship that you went through that projected you to. Oh, gosh. Yes. All right. So how many of you really well in kinesiology? No one's actually fully extended their hand. They've all just kind of elbowed up kyri when I went to PT school. We did kinesiology in January term three and a half weeks Monday through Friday, eight hours a day. I got my first f on an exam the teacher called me into the office because teachers did that back in the day. And reprimanded me told me that I shouldn't be a PT. I was obviously not studying came back and got an AM. My final got took the see to see Enron. We could get seized back then, but we still had to maintain that three point two back then too. But yeah, I failed and I still make mistakes all the time. And I learned I learned better. Now last time it was I just wanted to show her up. But now. What would you change? I think I just changed how I studied. Because when I got the F that we just a final undetermined a final. That's all we had. There was no quizzes. So the midterm I failed. But I ended up getting a C or C plus in the class. But I think I just once I learned the questions, and I think that's what I tell all of you that take the first quiz. See how it goes? If you do really well great. But still ask what questions you get wrong? And if you don't do well, then go talk to the professor, go talk to the learning Commons. But figure it out what it is. Because some of it's just test-taking strategies and other things it's just how we ask questions. I tell the students all the time words, very powerful. But if you don't understand which way they're flowing. Then you may not always get the right answer. That's cool. Great question. Anybody else failure? She jumped I love how she was like. Yep. Me big not you ought to talk about it past dropped out of college. Yeah. I dropped out of college the first time so and then I came to Quinnipiac I completely failed at what I was set out to do. So. I'm pretty good at feeling pretty pretty solid pretty pretty good at failing and then trying to rise from maybe just being facetious little bit right there where you said, I'm pretty good at failing. But like getting back up or no, it is it's hard. I think the more experience you have failing the more you want less experience. You just try to kind of get back up a little bit quicker. My rebound rate is definitely higher. Undergrad? I really had not a lot of preparation and then grad school. I was like that. All right. Got it can't fail. The next one stakes are higher, and you just get better at kind of doing what you need to do with a student on the show a couple of months ago merit Walker. He got rejected from like nine PT schools, and then took a real hard self-assessment. It realized I shouldn't have been accepted to PT school. They were right reassessed and got accepted to all of the schools. He applied the second time. But he was like dude hard eaten that humble sandwich and saying like, it wasn't them not loud. They they couldn't see my potential. He's like no I needed to change some things did. But getting back up. It's real fun to say after you've done it. But it's hard to do it in the MoMA. Right. Any failure? You got the squeezing the microbial hard day. What do you got? I'm also a failure. Don't know. My story is a little different right after school. I went to work like everyone else does. And I failed my PT boards. The first time. And then I told myself that I was that over confidence student as you mentioned using some other fun words to and I said that I will never fail any test again as long as I prepare. So I made sure that I got went back, and I dedicated and prepared and now I have an alphabet soup next to my name. And I worked very hard to everything else. But I have failed numerous times. But my big thing now is if I failed it, I try I try hard sesame. The questions we got was another hand that went up before where was that? When he was in center field here name what year are you? And I'm a D two. And I was wondering what you guys thought you wanted to do when you were NPT's school when you were sitting there seats, would you would you think you going to want him doing? So I thought that I was going to go into more definitely sports medicine working with athletes. I was personal trainer at time. But like I said before my career path started out in a totally different direction before kind of coming back to the orthopedic and working with athletes realm. So it definitely always changes in various as you go along. So I thought I was going to do outpatient orthopedics all chuckle about that one until I had my last clinical affiliation at a level one trauma center, and then I ended up there. And then I still thought I was going to do post surgical or something like that. And then I got my first patient who had a burn injury and my next patient with a burn injury. And I started specializing in burn care. And then I also started working with vascular surgeons and. Those amputations that don't heal quite right. And so I ended up getting in wound-care and burn care. And I did that for a lot of years at a level one trauma center. And I would have never thought if you told me I was going to be working with patients with wounds in school. I would have said. And now when I look at it and all the joy that I could bring to them to be able to get them to do what they wanted to do. And then more importantly, the kids and seeing them get back on their feet and then doing education in the schools to help this school kids reenter their students and their friends because they didn't quite look the same. What do you think j outpatient orthopedics, all the way? I'm Johnny outpatient, Ortho. That's that's what I love. But the the big part of it in the curriculum was when you go into PD school you I worked worked with. I was a student and my mentors and teachers you looked at them. You're like how in the world you do this stuff not going through a bunch of names, but the influential people in our curriculum Ross Woodman. I wanted to be like him just watching the skill and his ability to teach. So while I was in school. I knew I was definitely do outpatient orthopedics. And I always knew I wanted to have a role in education and teaching. So again, that's my aspect like in good question. Like that very much last one. We got time for one more. Here we go what's your name and what year Ainsley over? I'm d two minds kind of going off. Owls you guys talk about teaching and your professions and just wondering like how you manage all of that like caddy's the chair, and so those homecare and Dwayne his business and teaching and everything Jay is also kind of going off else how many personal systems. Do you guys have? Balance is definitely something that continued to work on right? And we can all continue to work on that. But I find that the way you kind of manage all the balls in the air is to kind of continue do the things you love to do. So we did talk about this as well today to kind of help you manage your busy life because we're all busy, right? Everyone's busy in different ways. So I think doing the things that you love to kind of manage your stress, and so you are not so much in control of your day. But you're kind of getting through that day in the best way possible. No matter how many challenges you have. And then the other thing I could say is for me. I've always been a person that did something different. Right. So it was always time. Clinician hard time faculty fulltime faculty part time clinician outright. So there's always something different. And to me that variety is kind of what keeps me going? I would never be. A person that could work the same forty hours in the same clinic for ten fifteen twenty years. So for me that right? It keeps me going and that keeps like my fire burning Friday, Spicer life. Right. I mean, I I mentioned it before we started. I wrote an e this is how actually got my job with FOX. There wasn't an job applicant. There wasn't like a an ad on indeed for radio DJ PT. That's not the case you're Google in that I'm in. I wrote a job description and sent it to the CEO of a private practice that has sixteen hundred clinicians. Like, I don't know if that's a great idea, but it seemed to work, but essentially I designed my job. So if I ever bitch about my job, I'm at fault. But there's someone who could say, yes. Well, he can just blow me off, and I wouldn't have lost anything. So I just emailed it to the the CEO Email is Tim FOX. And I think I wrote like eight things I like to do and do well at the bottom. I was like do you know, what you need me? And he was like flu. Well, it sounds confident. Let's go to let's go to lunch and see what this kid's made of it. I it worked, but you can do that. And we have colleagues should work three days at FOX as a PT treating clinicians, and then they work as if a stimulus therapist, they work with older adults for three days. And then like listen forty percent of my week. I wanted to be with their patients in and outpatient orthopedic clinic, and you can find practices. This happens. All the time. If you ask that's gonna make you happy. Great. I'd rather have sixty percent of you be very happy. And let you go. Do what you want for instead of losing you because you're valuable put a lot of time and effort, blood, sweat tears. Lot of tears into getting this degree go use the hell out of it. What do you guys think how you balance the thing was about balance? I'm not sure where I went with that response. But once I get going, good luck. More yoga, I guess the I'm just really thankful that most of the balls are bouncing balls that I can catch them again. I drop them every once in a while you just do you just have to prioritize, and it's not easy life happens. It happens to all of as it happens to you guys one. You're in classes, something happens in another area of your life. And it's like, okay, I got to let this ball drop a little bit. And then you just have to be aware of the consequences. And I know the consequences when I drop one of the balls the dean yell at me the faculty will be disappointed. You guys will be disappointed, but I don't let the ball drop with my family mom and dad get phone calls once week dad sees me drive up that four hour trip every three or four weeks, and I take care of the grandkids about once a week. And I don't let family get dropped everything else may drop a little list. Great. There's a great response. How in the world? Do I follow up that that good luck with that? All right. Excellent. I think everyone has like a Cup, and everyone has different sized cups of for example, everything in there is what you could tolerate and what you could hold and I put a lot of my plate. And I I do a lot teaching clinical faculty family friends, and as long as I could fit everything in the Cup without it overflowing. That's what I do. But building on what Kathy. And Wayne said sacrifice. You got to cut things out that make it too much, and you know, right away when you're overworked, you know, right away when you're about to drop a ball, and it's always great to have people that you could lean on whether it's your faculty at the university, your family and friends that could help dig you out a little bit when you're doing that. But you ask a very great question. And I don't think there's an easy answer to it as a student, and he's any strategies you've been able to employ for that question. Well, definitely I agree. I think I live at home. I've lived at home for undergrad as well. I'm so it's a little bit even more challenging because I can't really hide from those distractions when their family, but I've also learned that that's really valuable because I do prioritize them so much more and I have a job. And I think that that's very important. I think if I just focused on school hundred percent of the time all the time, then when I did still fail that would be even harder of a hit. But now at least I kind of keep balance, I have my friends, I have my family. I have my job. I do things that I love. And then I probably which is school first and foremost, but it's not my whole life, which is really important because the people who support me the people in my life, they make it all more worth it and a lot easier, and they know when I'm stressed or when I'm not doing, well, they kind of give me that extra push that I need, which is awesome. They're screw good. This question. Want to say, thank you guys very much. It's here for our guests. And thank you guys. It's your for you. The PT pine cast is a product of PT pint cast LLC it is hosted and produced by PT podcasts. EEO Jim McKay and CBO sky Donovan from Marymount university. We talked PT drink beer and record it. 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US Army Retired Physical Therapist & Former White House President Obama, Dr. Drew Contreras

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US Army Retired Physical Therapist & Former White House President Obama, Dr. Drew Contreras

"Here, we go into showtime when you see the beer pouring, hello. The PGA podcast podcast that saves you physical therapist for missing out on amazing insight, remarkable ideas and motivational stories in the world of physical therapy I'm Jimmy McKay. I'm your. Today Broadcasting live from the medical studios also known as my bedroom. Find them at a you are a US medical dot com hashtag travel to a you are US medical dot com? Great Show for you today. Here at Happy Hour, we talked to retired Army Colonel Dr Drew Trace Army. and was the physical therapists in the White House for President. Obama. We've got that for you today. before we bring them in, want to make sure you don't forget. Subscribe to the show I tune spotify Google podcast deesor radio stitcher, all the good spots where podcasts are hurting our video casting. If you're watching here on Youtube, facebook twitter at PT Pine cast on the socials during the show question, comment feel free. If you're watching US live dropped. Dropped that below, let us know what you're thinking. Let us know where you are. It's really weird. We find out the show gets to well. It's been in one hundred and seventy two different countries. I can't name that many countries, but it's been heard one hundred and seventy something countries. Let us know where you're listening. Even if it's the replay, let us know where you're located, so be feel free to interact right there. Let us hear from you. And we're going to give you updates on what shows. We have coming up later on this week. If you follow a socials at pine cast, you will never ever miss a free episode now. Are you reading? We got our guest today as I mentioned, retard US Lieutenant Colonel. Dr Drew Contrarius. Let's bring in. Through welcome to the program, excited excited excited. For having me on. One what welcome to show where during the first round, your first question is always the hardest. I what are we drinking today. So today. Felt like it was kind of a special event so I busted on a special bottle for today. I Have A. A- bushmills twelve year which actually? You can see that so this bottle I got. From. David Cameron former prime minister of UK. This was given out at the last G, eight summit for became the g seven some issue with Russia yeah. I felt like this was a. they'd open up so. We'll cheers to you. I'm doing. Our Angels Envy, which is Bourbon. This was given to me by the guy down the street at liquor store. Thirty bucks or something like that I'm Linden her. Like how you just dropping names? They're skinny by a prime minister of something like or so mentioned in your intro. Do I want us to say thanks to our friends owns recovery science Johnny Owens down there with with our friends at the Center for the intrepid owns recovery science dot Com. They bring you their first round, so BEF are looking to add that in your clinical practice safely. Improperly Janis the guy involved in the research the instruction he's got. You covered owens recovery science dot Com. Mentioned in your intro that you worked in the United States, army, so I'll always always like to lead off with saying. Thank you for your service. Thank you very much for your service. Our country on top of being a US army. Let's go chronologically and I like this about you is I know a little bit Sieber story, and but I don't know all of in chronological order, so let's let's start from the start when I say. Where's your physical therapy? Journey began? Where's the begin for you? So. All right, so story of how I wanted to become a physical therapist. I was your typical. Ohio football, playing kid and you know A. ACO UNSEAL. Had Go to therapy. You know and I distinctly remember my therapist. Standing around in Polo and pair warmup pants with a cup of coffee in his hand, ESPN in the background, and on occasion her on Yelp me, do like twelve more of those, and then he would just stand there drinking coffee. And kept thinking to myself. This can't be like a job. This is what you really do is. And sure enough I was like this is what you do he's at. This is the greatest job in the world and I literally thought to myself like. I should do this this I do so. That was that was kind. My that's how I got the ball rolling in. That was my interesting. So, that that kind of pushed me down the road. Then I went. To to undergraduate on an ROTC scholarship so I had a four year. ROTC scholarship so I went to a little Catholic school in North Western, Pennsylvania called gaining university. Yeah, because Gannon. At the time had a preference for master's degree program to kids. WHO DID UNDERGRAD? And master's degree programs were still fairly new at the time, so I was. Your old. and. And so. I got into school and I got a deferment from the army, so I didn't have to come on active duty. graduated. I could go to PT School. And then the funny story is. While PT School, the army actually was in a drawdown and they said we don't. There's not a spot for you on active duty. Reserves and I was like. Sounds like a plan. So I got a job in upstate New York where Akber Binghamton. Yeah, taking arc, so I was working and Banten and. So. This is also kind of funny. Dating a girl time eventually married because that's how it goes, but so I'm dating her at the time, and it's been about a year and this time of my life I have long hair were allowed berkinstocks urines lake. You know it's kind of on that trajectory of life right. In my father, who's a retired Navy chief? He calls me one day sitting Andrew. He's the to me Andrew by the way this is Andrew. I. Don't know what you did, but there's a curl. That keeps calling the house looking for you. And I said. What would you tell him? He said I told him that. You will be money and you went to Mexico and I've even heard from you years. If he finds you to let me know because you only money so. If you've ever been around a navy chief, that's such a need chief answer like when some officer calls the God and never heard of that guy. So I call I call colonel. Back and I'm like. Hey, let's say hey, Lieutenant. Where're you said I'm in upstate New, YORK? He's like you're supposed to be or Benny. No I'm in the reserves. Well this lieutenant! If you want to check for all that money we gave, you can stay there otherwise. You need to show up at Fort Betting, so you can pay money back. Wow, so then you know my girlfriend at the time I said. So He. Never just so you know they come in the army. And they just called me, and I have to go to Fort Benning. She says. Just straight DEADPAN Lake. If you wanted to dump me, come up with something better than that. Wow! Sweet calling you out! Right, so so that was the rocky kind of rough transition of. Graduated had a job Kim in the army, and then went down your path from there all right? What's What's what's being an army? Physical therapist like I should say. What was it like being around physical for you? I think the. The great luxury you have. Is that at the time you know PT, really kind of Hamstrung by you had to have were if you were a civilian pt, you have. had. Tell you what you can do what you do. How many times you had to do it! What days of the week and the army does not work that way you're? You're a physician extender, right? You're seen as kind of a a neuro, muscular skeletal practitioner, and you just practice independently. So. There's no telling you what you have to do. you have a lot of privileges, even still civilian are finally starting to get some overnight, but right radiology privileges limited pharmacy privileges Just you're just practicing on a higher level because you had more autonomy from so that so I think that's the distinction of Beaune Army, PT. How long did you do that? Before. Did that for twenty wanting change that's cool and highlights of where you get to travel where we located so stirred off at Fort Benning Georgia. Then moved to glorious. Fayetteville North Carolina to fortress Brag otherwise known as the center of the universe. Distant there than a fifteen month vacation to the desert out of there, so deployed with the second airborne came back to Fort Bragg then. Had A? Stint over at the Pentagon. Were to the Pentagon there in the wellness physical therapy section there. Slid over to the White House worked at the White House for quite a while, then finished up the White House, distant to build Warren and finished up at Brag and retired. Wow all right, so you just Kinda like? You just use this Yada Yada to use the Seinfeld term you just Yada. Yada. Getting slid over to the white, house so like. How's that work? Are there? Are there always physical therapists or whether always physical therapists in the White House? How'd that happen? How'd you slide on over from the Pentagon over the river? To sixteen hundred. So. The medical unit at the White House historically. Uses consultants right so they have various consultants of whatever specialty so that if they need somebody? They. They've already feted them right now. Who you are, you're familiar with. You know how to get there and all these kinds of things because in DC. You leave your any wherever you are. Go anywhere in DC that's like an hour and a half just to do anything so. People leaving the White House. If you leave the White House for an appointment, you'd be gone for the next two yet, right? So it's just doesn't work. So for all the medical stuff. They have consultants, so there were consultants there before me shot out you. bj carry golden and So, there was a consultant position, right, and so at the time. I, I'm a I'm a sports. Medicine is yes. Akron guy so I was over at the Pentagon. And! There was a rash of injuries at the White House at the beginning of the Obama administration mostly due to. Middle Aged Caucasian men thinking that they were seventeen play basketball still. Does this have anything to do with? President Obama installing a basketball court. Or deny me to read it depends. So right so the truth was right. Now. There's all these you know. Tell intended repairs Achilles repairs all this stuff and you're like. Oh, you gotta get somebody to take care of these things so. Called me, which be sense across the river. Jump Metro Cross. Back and forth and do that and then you know I Kind of the. Victim of your own success. Kinda SORTA right like hey. You better you should see that guy. There's a guy wasn't help you out and just kind of. Evolved from there. That's cool all right, so we gotta ask things about White House. Like the first time you go like you're not taking the tour, right? This is not even in the medium like your goal into I mean you're going into the White House like. How cool that I mean that's? My question is I'm skipping pass. Is it cool? Ms How cool is that so? You know the White House is? Never visited the White, house, like a kid or anything, so it was a completely new thing to me. And in the White, house is kind of. The first thing I would tell you is. It's bizarrely underwhelming. Not as physically large as you faded extra structure. Yeah because I worked. Across River, Marymount and I visited in the executive building next to it is monstrous. And the White House is like Oh, but I'm a news. A kind of always looks. Huge. So that was the very first thing I was like. This is not as big as I thought it was going to be. So then right, and so as you then once you get into it and you start seeing the things that are there the things that are around there? Then it starts to sink it and you really start to get. The sense of history. And you get home all a little bit and so a really. So one of the meeting the first week or two that I was there. The head usher at the time was a coup skirt admiral and he said. Your new I'm going to take you on a tour. Said okay, because bizarrely. You don't really get it toward the White House. When you start working there, it's just hanging. Let's go to work. Here's reworking the. All this is there you don't. Nobody, that works there booster that tour process, right? So now terrible took me, and so we're going around and I was just in complete awe, because then he knows everything about the whole place. Oh, this is Abigail Adams, T. Oh, she's a look. There's general Washington. Sore. Oh Okay Oh and then here's this here's that. Overwhelming and you're like man. And then he stop me on the twirling, and he looked at me and he said listen. If you're lucky enough to be here long enough. This will. Not Be a shiny to you after a while, it's kind of like a car, right? It's a really great car, but after a while, it just becomes a car. He's a conventionally if you're here long enough if you have that privilege. Will Get all to you. You said in when it does when that happens I. Want you to come on a tour, and I want you to stand right here and I want you to look at the people, so we were in the in the Lincoln in the I'm sorry that the the East Room. and. Just it's beautiful and people are just their mouths open. Everybody's just sucking it. He's like that's the look of people. This is the People's House and never lose that just come here and look at them and remember what this place is. Really kind of took that to heart because. seven years right? Know There were definitely days where it lost its luster. You know the the the big joke about the White House. Is You know no matter what color your hair was before you came there, either? It's going to be White, were you? If you have any left at all right in? Case in point. So. So. It's a grind. It's a lot, but. But it certainly is. It's every bit as magical as you think it is. Yeah, that's cool. That's really cool. Cheers that I mean. That's just cool to hear like stuff like that. I mean that's just. I was told something similar in radio. which was you know in radio? You meet rockstars all the time and it's it's. It's in the beginning. It's cool in alternate becomes well. It's it's commonplace and then a morning radio guy who was a couple years older than me, said the same thing he said remember, you might have met a bunch of rockstars. Maybe meeting this rock band for the fifth sixth time. He's like, but watch the the win the contest winners. You're bringing backstage. Watch the thirteen-year-old Goud 'cause. That's the person died me. Make sure that you're you. Don't act you. Cool for the room for that kit make really special. Yeah No, and it's. It's so true and it's. Being in just. I would be doing a disservice if I didn't tell you. Yeah, it's. All right all right, so we gotta ask one. Ask about any patients you, but you are allowed to talk about some people in the in the big house. Right you look. People write. About so I mean I can tell you. Is the. Physical therapist to the president of the United States, obviously President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama. That worked with. Everybody else I've worked with everybody from there to. The dies doing the work. You're that you're the in house. PT, so that's kind of cool. Yeah. So. Let's let's go with. Let's let's talk about the President I like, is he? Is that is that you know charismatic in person, or is he just know how to turn it on when the cameras are on. What's what's he like so two things about him. That are you know when people ask me that question, I can definitively tell you this number one. He's the smartest guy in the room and you don't know it. Might you just don't just don't realize it, but. Man He can tell you any conversations. He's had where he's been where people said later. He's just one of those people that never misses a be and I think remembers every single thing. He ever read right so. He's that much smarter than you are. Right and listen hartaway once or twice so. Yes fact number two. The thing about them is. You know! For my entire duration I had rule when I interacted with President Obama was only talked about three six. Whether. Family in sports that was. The only topics that were fair game talked about nothing else. Then Lake? Health rate right, but just like general conversation. That was it. Those were the only things I will talk about. And I think it. That works out well. I think that's a good thing, but the thing is like he's an absolute sports junkie. Right Jonky like. Watching all Lakers Games watchable. Jack Nicklaus Golf matches like everything like he is. Just he is just ring it all in, so so definitely you know. If you didn't know he was not. If you knowing and you like sports, and you're just sitting there having a conversation issue for gun, Talk to you all right, so so you're now. You're the White House physical therapists. How's that work? I mean everything comes into play right to be just because he's the president united. States doesn't mean not gonNA have. and that's why we're there So. How did you approach that I mean that's gotta be a little intimidating right to know that you're treating the president? United States America yeah. I would be foolish to say that you know the doesn't register with you right. So one thing I learned. Actually. I always tried to treat all my military patients the same regardless of rank. You are a pse or a colonel. I did the best I could for you with whatever I had. That was my take now. I learned at the Pentagon I had a a mentor Dr Block since passed away, but he was a mentor to me is. Doing executive medicine for a long time and he said. Here's the deal. The difference between. A secretary of Defense and A major at the Pentagon is scheduling it. Security concerns like the major has more time than the secretary of Defense Right. You're not. Catering. You're not getting him better treatment. You may make yourself more available the they have because they have scheduling concerns that you don't you have to. You have to give that and so I took that into consideration right so. You make yourself available to people when they have time so question. I often heard like well. Why do they need a PT At the White? House you know they somebody just go somewhere else. They, could you? They could've gone Walter. Reed, or even order the Pentagon, but the hangup is. What's an hour of the president time worth? What's that cost ripe? What would people pay for that right? It's certainly more than you know at the time. Major was making no, no doubt about that right so I always equate it to. It was slipping the generals driver right? Your job is to sit there with your bake. Read it and Wick, and with general need something you do it John's backing. You sit back down. Again so. I mean obviously I'm simplifying the slot, but but other than than than making those scheduling and security concerns. Treating treating everybody to the best of your skill set is about. So, let's go treating. In terms of White House, like was there. Where were you? Where were you working? Where'd you set up shop? was there space for you? Did you have to kind of improvise? Or what was it it like? Yes. What was new right so I? Set up a space in the Yogi in Eisenhower building, which is the big building next to my mother locations that I would work out as well. In on, it was just kind of new right like people. Hadn't really had A. Therapist had a beater all the time. So you know the Nice thing about being at the White House, the probably the greatest asset you have as a clinician is if I call somebody and say hey. You know this is return on the White House physical therapist. I'd like to get your opinion on this or you know what I'm considering. Using this platform or whatever it is, people take a call. So that, so there was nothing that was. If I had a question. I could call somebody and I could get an answer right so that's a huge advantage as a clinician where. If I need something. I can usually your whole of whatever it is I'm trying to write. I like the. Air Force One. Did you travel because you're the White House physical therapist? Did you grow elsewhere because I? Mean of the president's gone for days. Mega Road trip. So. I spent a lot of time on that jet. I went through a lot of passports. The Big Bummer was I think it is single frequent flyer mile now one. That's disturbing I know. I've probably been around the probably circumvented the world. Forty Times right now and not a single free for Fire Mile. It's pretty solid selfie is, and we share those We shared one of those on on instagram. What was that one was that when you were like being brought in? was that like a ceremony looked pretty official. I think that might have been like one of the first times like I was a k. A picture of me in front of the jet It's it is what it is right like. It's the most recognized a plane in the world without a doubt. and. You know the thing that's also really interesting about air. FORCE ONE IS A. Such a symbol of America in sounds like super like Mirko, wave the fly right but like. What you don't understand is if you're in a meeting of international heads of state right. When Air Force One shows up. Everybody gets out of a week. When we're leaning, everybody waits for us. Just kind of one of those things that you you know. You have to understand. How that what's that's like and how that kind of works out. There were sometimes where we were in countries where I was super. Glad to just. Get on that plane right in feel like I was at least somewhat homer, at least I knew I was going home right because the trips are long. Sometimes they could be weeks in length right just depending on the where you're going. So. When you forget time zones, and you're always have to set you know your phone two time zones. You don't quite know where you get jetlagged than you head back and just it gets rough right. There are certainly appreciate pay for for moving around the world like that. But you know it's a little easier when you have your own seven forty seven. Yeah, and and spotify pretty sweet as I've seen the Harrison Ford movie I think. That just like Harrison for i. we just like that. We're bringing. We're going to bring in producer bridget. He's GonNa. Come into the stream with us. She's got a question for you. She's a second year student at at sacred heart near she is bridget Russian for for drew You, will you WANNA fire away? My. One. You work travel I'm like what a PT treatment session looked like. You obviously don't have all your gear with you. Right, that's right. So. You become very skilled at this this is. Eighty five percent of what I need right and this is you know. Another portion of it. And I would drag some stuff around or You know whether that was like an ice in tool or I am. kind of a defacto. Sports medicine I like tape than. One time we had an agent. Take a step off of a Beria. Taping ankles right on I'm doing all this stuff. But the truth is no matter. Where I was this was the majority of my skill. Set Right, and that's that's hard for some to kind of wrap their brains around right because you have to be very confident in what you're doing, right and because. You know like you don't even have one ten power in some places, right? So. If you're if all of your treatments are focused on, you know whatever this Gizmo does. Whatever this unit can do for this patient like you are dragging attraction table with you like you just work like that, so being independent understanding will. What your approach is going to be in planning for that was a big portion of it. Wow! I didn't think about that until you just sit at agent I was thinking about. Obviously you know office people who work there. You mentioned people who work for the grounds and facilities. I mean secret service agents. Those are tactical athletes. who were you know they don't have down downtime? You get a guy with a sprained ankle and you got four more countries to go to. That's a big deal. I didn't think about that. Yeah, and it's just like a team right the there's only so many people right. We'll just get the the six string guy find Punxsutawney to fly out here to Jamie now you have what you have right on just like you know like. There's one person who's to win the brief right, and if that person's miserable or they can't rotate their neck and they're only looking at half the room. That's the problem, right? Those are the things that. Are like the question is always well. Isn't that big of a deal to really needs? Nothing's a problem until it's a problem right back then it's a problem. In that line of work right like narcotics are not a solution, but you're not. You're not giving anybody. Medications because that's not GonNa Happen, so you have to. There has to be another solution, and that's where having a PT fit in really well with that having somebody who had a hands on skills, so they could address problems. WAS USEFUL RIGHT? That's twelve hundred or so long like that You mentioned We've mentioned promise show voice president of the Federal Section right now. That was the section I don't think I knew existed until I was at least like a third. You didn't talk about that just a little bit. We just had. We had somebody on talking about that a few months ago. Just because I think it's It's one that a lot of say. Oh, I didn't realize that that's what that's what it covered right so the federal section know is a you know like the Sports with Your Tho- section. Is a section of physical therapists work for the federal government, and that's your in Department of Defense the EH. Bureau of Prisons Indian Health, service. Or public health. So people that have these federal jobs. It's the group where you know we can. Advocate for things that are specific to them or Leverage the things that we want. To share with other people right like. There's nobody that deals with amputees more. Section, but that is not even a question, right? And so we housed a lot of that institutional knowledge in we kind of decided it was a point to. Share share that share that information, and then you know there's a lot of people now. That are starting to get interested in as now. Kind of people are starting to understand what is what does being the peachy the department fence me. What does it mean to be? With you right so now you have this section where you can network, you can get questions answered. You can find some mentorship on, and that's really what the section does. It's. It's not a huge section by the thousand or so members. and. It's always funny. Right because you know people like A. Section on a student. I don't have any money. It's twenty five dollars a year like, but that's to starbucks runs for me. So you know we knew the section is not set up. We're not trying to make money we're not trying to. We're just trying to exist for the purpose of sharing that platform, so give the dues as slow as we possibly can, so the specifically students enjoy right so that students are trying to find that that bridge were were therefore I. Tell people all the time if you're going to join a section. Make sure you know that the special interest groups in section there no additional charge, so join all of them and just take. It equipped a quick trip. All of them 'cause. You'RE GONNA. There's a lot of nuggets when you get really narrow rights action, obviously narrow, but even more narrow in a federal section going to be thorough section, right? WE HAVE THE AMPUTEES SIG HAVE A. Primary Care Stig. All! Entities are doing primary care some way shape, or form right, and we have a force it right the is it just a women's health? It's a pelvic floor, said because in the Department of Defense in the Va. there's a significant number of male public for injuries. And so learning how to address that, so we kind of have a broader approach to that yeah, art. I like that aren't drop your questions. Comments Below, bridget. You've got one more bridge interested second year, PD from sacred heart, interested in federal, getting more interested. What's your second question produce, bridget. The White House like a lot of medical consultants. So were you the main one that was there or did you work with like a home medical team in the most? So some aspects of the medical unit. I can't tell you about right, but the medical unit is their offer to purposes number one to make sure that whatever the health care needs are of the. Commander in chief and those people that are afforded care to facilitate that, so that is not. It doesn't get in the way of their of their duties. Unit does. Is it provides? Traveled support right so for example depending on what country you're going to. There may be requirements for people who go there. Vaccinations or whatever right so the medical unit facilitates the business of the United States. If there are medical needs that are associated with that, so yes, there are several consultants. There are staff. That are there full time. It's not a huge staff right, but it's a very busy staff. Like that bridget, thank you, so for jump on and an asking that question right there. We've got some more coming in as we see that. Crystal asking the longest question in show history. Thoughts about PT as a government contractor, she did a pre PT observation hours at four prides Kinda cool connection there. How about that so? So, what are somebody's I can open doors those. Okay, so I think the number one thing. You should do is find a mentor or somebody that can help facilitate that for you right? Just find one I don't know of anybody who would. Turn down somebody that was trying to do that right we're. It's a small world, so having somebody to to kind of steer you in the right direction is the first thing. If. You don't know where to find that. Go to the federal. Section federal physical therapy section. Students I think it's eight dollars to join so. Right. Come on. Do that no hope finally doing. As a government contractor so working as a contractor for the Department of Defense not wearing uniform. Here's the thing right? The taking care of tactful athletes and people that were the cloth of the Union. For the cloth of the nation. That is a privilege and I would say that ninety percent of your caseload will be filled with people who just want to get better and go back and do their job. And so, that's really enticing right like I. Don't know where everyone works is listening. But you know I have my druthers about having a civilian practice just dealing with people that whatever their situations where I've had the luxury of having people that are almost entirely solely focused on getting better, so they can get back to their units. Get back to doing the things that they do driven right and so I think that that's if you're interested in that. That's the right GIG for you right? Contractor is a great opportunity. Where in the uniform is not for everybody am like that drop your questions and comments blowing out one more from Zach. He's asking about more future. Being the VP the federal section having a career in I'm sure things chain. But where do you see things? Go and Druze looking for something in the future. A PT's in government the military so. Really this is a really transformation time for army, physical therapists right now and what I mean by that is the army for the first time in. Four years is changing its physical fitness standards right, and that's coming because the army has changed the way that we fight. Wars we're no, longer. A bunch of hundred forty pound paratroopers with a helmet on and rifle. That's not what a soldier looks like now only need to do is turn on call of duty. You'll see exactly right. You've got play carriers and bags and heavy weapons, systems, and all all these electronics so. Today's soldier looks more like a linebacker than a wide receiver, right sports, analogy, and so when you realize that right? We need to make sure that today soldiers can move handle the load. Can. Get to the fight and win the fight once they get there right and. So so the way that we evaluate fitness and functionality changes because of those requirements, and so so they finally had changed. was called. These ts to the physical fitness requirements changed it while they changed that what they've done is. So myself. I was the first physical therapist of the point with the second airborne back in two thousand in six. In that model has been replicated over and over and over with special forces and regular winding. That's the serve units. In every time, you realize it is a cost saving measure to have a physical therapist with their skillset. Four deployed the troops because we keep people doing what they do any much less expensive rate. Than anybody else. We have non-pharmaceutical solutions for problems. To allow people to keep doing their job, so you are a huge cost, you measure so what the army realized is not only are we gonNA change these requirements, but we're going to give every functional unit in the army, their own physical therapists, which created a need for another two hundred plus physical therapists. which did double it, but it was A. it's a large increase her, and then what happens is those physical therapists that were in the hospitals are the longer in hospital. You're out with your units so kind of like a team concept wherever your unit is. That's with wherever the teams at war with them so I think that. The future of physical therapies in the Department of Defense is mobile right. You go where they are. This is eighty five percent of your still set. You got a bag of some whizbang stuff. Out, right, but that's what it's going to look like. And I think that's that model because it's. Still cost saving right and just make sense. I think we'll continue to have that man if that's not validation for a profession, break is the government you know. Try to get a nickel out of them right they. In their in their defense, they put a lot of research into stuff like well. We're not spending on that to have them say. We want a physical therapist with every functional unit. That's pretty valid. That's going to be pretty validating for our profession. I agree one hundred percent right and I think you see the value more more. There's a pretty landmark. Study that was published not that long ago by Dan Roan. Army PT Front Mine. On, knee injections, that physical therapy was superior treatment to me. Junctions for Niaz your throat is. In the New England Journal of Medicine like. This big staff. Big bringing concepts and ideas and things like like you said more and more, this constant just keeps getting revalidated over and over and over. and. I think that the future of physical therapy is great if you set yourself up to be one of those practitioners that. I am somebody that can do a lot of these. Treat these. kind of every day issues with people right and I and I have a skill set. That's valuable. You said it just validates overall. Yeah, yeah, what's the cost of having an operator? Having tactical athlete out for a week or month we could prevent that or reduce that were were in great shape, and I remember the first time I've ever clicked for me. We had rich west wreck on the show and he said listen you know you're you're a marathon runner? You're triathlete, right? That's that was my. That was my back and he's like well. Well, you know exactly what what minute of what day the guns going go off tactic. lafley firefighters police. EMT's military. It might be six months from now. It might be twenty minutes from now. You've got to be ready at all. That's a different way of training right? I woke up and I knew when the gun was going to go off and I was GONNA swim. This far was going to bike I was going to run Tatchell Athlete. Whatever's required you? Grab your helmet and go, so it was. It was definitely unique. The first time I heard people speak about tactics and how how training and treating those people were vastly different. I like that a lot. We're gonNA bring, Producer Brigitte back into the show. We're going to be the flight. One people know what's coming up. We'll give drew a chance to to drink man. So producer Brigitte things shows that are coming up later this week and things people might have missed what we got. Tomorrow, we are Jamie Schreier at. Off about targeting your audience private practice ripping the boosts your referrals Jamie's Gotcha covered well, and we have next House League going over. Telera have robotics. Yeah, I'm a dude. I like toys. You say there's robots some like. Yeah, let's do that so knicks works for Modus Nova talk to him coming up to what else is what it's later this week. At. At, five on Thursday over PTA's as serving as healthcare leader. He's got a cool background as Yourself, but as a PT, a lot of leaderships. We're to get some. PTA's show them off to and anything else in the future. Sarah Cruiser and marks. Over the PT Health Study. PT Health Studies with Mike Eisenhart. OUT OF OUT OF NEW JERSEY, they're they're doing some wearable technology population health stuff. If you know Mike is in art, is very population health forward thinking like also tacked like practical like being able to bring it in, so that's That's what's future. We just. What do we have in the past recent? We have Michael Cromartie was on the show. Include you can look at that. What else Ledley walkie with the creating content? Yeah, oncology, physical therapists, and how she makes us cool videos all right well. Let's always tell people to subscribes little. Miss a show, bridget forgiving the update. We call it the flight. Get it. The flight of Beers, and it's like we're giving you a sample and we're so witty. That's all we got. All drew. Can We kinda talked about your background? Right and we talked about like what we did treating I wanNA talk about things that you learned right. Let's let's let's let's give the audience. The some tactical things or wisdom nuggets, I, sounds pretty prophetic, which is be where you're supposed to be. What's that media? You know? I think. So, As a PT right in Canada Professional. There is nothing more. Just drives me crazy than people who aren't where there's who don't show up to where they're supposed to be. When they're supposed to be there right I think. That gives that immediately gives the feedback that number one whoever it is, you're working with their times, not important make which is, that's a bad place to start off with number two shows that you can't manage wrong time. Right which does not bode well for you. And, if you if you can't manage that basic thing, I think that. There will be several other things will just kind of domino off of that right so so having that's that's just a tenant that. You just need to be cognizant of and make sure that this part of how you operate. So this is literal. You mean like literally be where you're supposed to be I thought we were going to go like philosophical like make sure you. Know. The End yes, philosophically like if you're in a meeting. Be At the me right if you were in a treatment session with the patient. Be there don't be somewhere else in likewise, right? One of the hardest things I had to learn. In being a military pt is, there are some aspects of my job. That should not come home with me. They should stay there and so I'm home with my wife and my kids. I need to be there with them, but that's where I need to be not still at work or still focused or fixated or trying to. Problem, solve something else right ran. You need to be there and that's something that people don't hear enough of you. Show skied out of an agreement Greenwood. Love the one you're with right. It's the line right. There love the one. Like it all right so after be where you're supposed to be which I was always taught like man. If you're on time, you're late right, so make sure you're early. It just shows respect. Nobody wants to be like you never wanna be the last person meeting people go all. We can't star persons holding us up that person ever specially for a patient. You got a second. So after be where you're supposed to be. Do. What you're supposed to do this? When sounds like? It's completely logical after this month. And I think you know do what you're supposed to do. I take that to mean. People, expect a certain level of performance out of you or a certain level of capability. And you should be able to. Deliver that. Because if you were not, they're relying on you for something. People don't come to see you or work with you because you're incapable right so. I again right now. Just a general ethos, right? It's it's it's. Kind of making sure that your level of professionalism grateful to deliver on the things that you should yeah back. What back would up back it up if you say right, walk the. Talk? Third Point it makes you don't know you better. Ask Somebody. When. We? The president's feet deep like if you don't know, ask somebody. I learned this lesson of. Long time ago from. From surgeon. I had and I was a young lieutenant and I. Forget what it was, but I clearly had no idea what I was doing i. was you know the old adage armies? You can't spell loss without Lt Right I. Sauce and he came up to me and he said. It looks like you don't know what you're doing and I was like. Oh, he's like. If you know you've been asked somebody like. I'll. This isn't a big deal, but someday that might mean somebody's life. Somebody that might mean. Somebody doesn't get what they're supposed to get because you were afraid to ask the question because you were not informed. People rely on you to make decisions. If you don't know you better, ask right and that some of those things that kind of. People. How did you get? How did you end up in the white? House how'd you on up on this level of of? Just a different plane of managing things right and I think that's part of it. I think that understanding that. It's only a fool who thinks they know all the answers. You're not expected to know all the answers, but you should know where where did that? And if there's no answer to be had, it's okay to say there's no answer right the. Best that we have, but understand that limitation and I think a lot of us are afraid to. You feel like if I don't know it makes me look inferior. It makes me look like I'm. I. Don't know what I'm talking about. I think it's exactly the opposite right I think it shows. Did you know you? Your. Maturity level is to the point where you know what you can and can't do that. There are times where you got to get some. Right. Know How to ask honest question. I see this I. saw this a lot. As as a student and I was a second career student and I I fell into that trap where I was like. I'm supposed to know this. So if someone asked me a question, my default response was just answer and give them give them a response. When if I honestly didn't know I you know I. Don't know, but I'll find out for you. I'm going to. Up that says okay, they were honest and I'm Gonna I'M GONNA. Get the right answer. You can tell when you can. Now. Listen. Let me, tell you a funny story so one time I was. Treating a patient. In So I. Don't talk about who this patient was. They were an expert in a field and I was treating them with With the modality. and. He's patient says to me. So give me the specifics of this treatment you're. Right oh well. I give them kind of my standard clinical chiel right. And, they start asking deeper questions and I was like. Well, you know kind of direction back to my clinical spiel and the asked again and I was like listen. I'm going to be honest with you I. Don't have that I don't i. don't know that's kind of goes beyond my level of of clinician, but I can get that information forty. Oh don't worry about it. I've got a Nobel prize in this area so many questions. I'd be happy to explain it to you. That would be terrible. Started like Oh. I just started lying about whatever owns her wavelengths Leo when I got my Nobel Prize. So I like. You know you just gotTa have to know your limitations. Right organ yourself in a position I. mean honestly that person in that situation was probably even trying to see if you knew or they were trying to size you up, and if you pull things out of your posture, that would have known right away because Nobel, prize in it right right, so look again right the assumption that you're always smartest one in the room. Just you know and I didn't know. I didn't know who. Their background look like. Favorite favorite I mean it'd be hard to hard pressed not to ask favorite moment with with President Obama as a human being even as a patient. You spend that much time with someone who's in that position. Who as you mentioned the top of the show? Is that smart that charismatic? Leader Zor moment. That comes to mind that like you you. You think back to and your time in the White House. As far as like between like of of him, or between you, two interaction between you know you get to spend time with that guy for that long seven years like they're like a funny stories or something sums up your relationship with him. So the very first time. I've meet him like first time like straight off the back. So. There got Saddam. He comes in. He's talking to the DOC Blah Blah. Oh, hey, this is drew. He's got to work with you today. Bob, La. And he's like. All right the to monitor. And So I get into the presidential elevator and the elevator is only four the first family nobody else goes into the elevator. Right so it's it's super weird like I'm like Oh okay can I win right? Do and he's can forget elevator man. The elevator. And for those people who don't know President Obama's from Hawaii. And so again you elevate. What part of the island from? And I was like. Excuse me. The Island. Part of the island are you from? NOT FROM AN ISLAND FOR CLEVELAND. He was like Cleveland like Cleveland Cleveland is. Just assumed you were Hawaiian or I said well on Pacific islander descent, but I'm from CLEVELAND GOES UP CLEVELAND. About Lebron! looked. I just met you in. You went there. needed. I was leading. Bears Bulls like we're going to do this. In. Your White Sox fan like come on, come on. He's pushing. Yeah, and I think that's that kind of sums him up. You know he certainly wants to get to know you on your home, but also the same time. He recognized like he's a little bit of a kind of poke at your little bit. Obviously we had. Lots of other interactions and conversations over. To this day great, but it's just that kind of sums up. Kind of you know. I think how our relationship started off in stayed ever since the great. Overall good experience. Seven years well spent I don't want to assume. Yeah I mean. Listen, it's. It's always hard to kind of. Encapsulated right because so many things happened. There were so many moments in my life personally and professionally. That happened over that time that. It really kind of. Becomes a significant part of my history even more, so they all hated super cool job. That's interesting time. It just kind of falls into my church now. Rating now a part of the story of me. It Yeah, look, there was some there was some rough days. There are some days that were not good. You know, there were some times where. You know as a clinician in that environment. You have to be very cognizant of the things that are happening in the world. And there was there was a moment one time where. A patient was making a comment to me and ask me my opinion on a political thing at the moment and look if you if you are on active duty. You're not a political person. My job was hell. Listen. I fixed broke people. Great. You need some tips on how to. Improve you know your hamstring, wife. Let's have that conversation. You don't want to hear my opinion on any political things, right? Things where I happen to be in the know as Hamilton Sal was in the room where it happened them, yeah. And in the debt is not a conversation that the IM privy to or a part of. So. That's a part of it but like. The other thing that is. For my children. They were growing as they were getting older. I just worked at the white. House that was just normal. That was just that was what the life was. In fact, my son because I didn't wear a uniform for so long. He was as he was like. You know five six seven like. He didn't even realize I was in army. He was like. Now who worked at the White House? Now. But! That was just kinda part of it. Just, it was it was, but definitely right like I think that any time. A. Professional you're in a job? That has that much visibility right? Yeah, it's it's usually Pretty, monumental right or incredibly? Awful. Yeah. A little Birdie told us you have Mel Gibson connection a movie. A movie and Mel Gibson Connection I didn't know what this is because he's got several of my top ten, so. I was a young officer at Fort. Benning Georgia and they were filming the movie. We were soldiers once. Oh yeah, don't know if you ever saw that movie. The belly MOGENSEN. I'm sure it's on Netflix's or something well at any rate. They needed. Tens of thousands of extras for this movie to film these scenes where there's training going on, and people were preparing for to Vietnam so forth and so on, so if you wanted to do it every, you could sign up for it and create so me and a couple of buddies. Let's be in Mel Gibson. Some sign up were standing there. And then you're standing in line. They're just kind of okay. Here's your outfit that you'll wear your hat your. Some standing in line and. One of the production assistance comes up to me. He goes your some sort of Asian type person. Right and I was like well civic islander. Yeah, he's like. I, got Oh. We have a feature role that we need filled. You will be perfect for him. And I was like what's throw I can do this as an adult. Like I said you ought to see lines. You get burned alive, so we need somebody to get burned alive. We need like Vietnamese. Look to give her live. That was like all right. So. So, he takes me over to the special effects in the wardrobe. People now that this is the guy. Here's the burnt alive guy got. I looked at me and he goes. Are you being AMIS? I said no more specific Ali. He's like. Did you look at. Like how. He's like there are no Vietnamese people. In nineteen, sixty eight, that are five eleven, two hundred and forty pounds, not you. This guy is not gonNA. Be The burn guy he was. Expert right saw. There goes that there weren't my feature role, but we in the background at least. At ground and in fact. Evening Night Seen Mel Gibson went to smoke. A cigarette did not have a lie. I had. Wow three wash that that was a good movie. Yeah, so you know. That's my. That was my claim to fame. Prior to alike in your, do you have an Obama impersonation? Do you have an accent? He's pretty iconic with the way he speaks. His timing. Do you have any of you around in that much? No Ne. That my posterior, but you'll know I'm faking it so yeah? Not Not at all. DRI ready for for three questions. Let's do it right now. Three questions brought to you by our friends at medical staffing. It's a you are a US medical dot com. You can see their logo open there in the corner. Juries had travel p. still think especially at areas in need. Your central workers PT's PTA's around the country all settings. A lot of people think it's just outpatients though and all locations to. We mentioned places like Alaska Hawaii Antenna. They have need a lot of people just overlook those areas like I bet you don't have you don't have any need in Hawaii they do. check out online. You are a US medical dot com. It's a U.. R. E. S. medical. Dot. com drew first. Question is aware question anywhere in the fifty states and somebody who circumnavigated the globe in Air Force, one forty plus times. You've probably took a spin around this country a few of them. Where would you want to go and spend some time if you could in the US? Oh? Hawaii without question. It's not even close. Why was never somewhere that got to before I worked at the white. House and I am convinced that if I did go to Hawaii I, would go completely native in up care about anything in the world, so I won't go there untethered because I'm pretty sure I would just sit around with the surf forty, just drinking out of coconuts, I like it. I'll. It's played the. Ukulele, I don't know how many more. Why we can get their second questions, what question helps me beef up my reading list or my? Netflix cue which something you've read watch. Listen to whatever that you think the audience would benefit from. So. I just watched. A netflix presentation was actually done by Obama's. Production. Company net flicks. It was about how each Chinese company took over and hired plant. A car manufacturing plant on the name escapes me at the moment. But it was really interesting as a kid growing up next to a car plant in Ohio right that was that was something I knew very well. Any type of people work there and the. The culture of it. It was really interesting to see how they tried to marry a Brian a Chinese culture instituted into an American plant and look at those cultural differences and look at all those things. And I think you know it really opens your eyes as an American kind of you see the immediate perspective of what other people see how Americans function how. Do. Likewise kind of seen. The truth is right as Americans. We have a pretty darn good. We have very well compared to a lot of places and a lot of Americans I, think just don't have never had the opportunity now understand that, so if you never saw that I, would see check that all right third question is who questioned who someone the audience should know more about. So, shame was plugged I. would give would be to someone who's become really good friend of mine. ISU- foucault. talked to sue house owning. Show who is somebody with a? is a woman in the field, a lot of I but is a PT is somebody who is pushing profession forward. In his really making a difference in the perception of who you are, what our skill sets are, so if you don't know anything about her checkout, her company, structure and function. She's great people. She's checking out. Yeah, look, you have to have her on the show just before her last book out. Bridging the gap and she s, she had I is dodger's first woman in professional sports. Hold the head position, right. Yeah. It's a dry report. Three questions brought to you by say you are a US medical dot COM WANNA. Thank those guys response show for a long time again. Check out what is available and where the areas in need are here in the country at a U. R.. E. US medical dot com. Let's do the parting shot now. Let's bring that about this'll be fine. Let's do the parting shop. Got Video affect their thanks to the Kademi of Orthopedic Physical Therapy for Sponsoring the party shot and find them online at Ortho. T. Dot Org. We just gave away current concepts of orthopedic. Physical therapy. We're GONNA. Give away another. Another monographs access to more learning from Ortho P. T.. Dot Org and we'll be talking more also coming up in two weeks. Parting shot drew. Is your opportunity to leave the mic drop moment? What's one thing as you were just exiting and leaving the audience with something? What's the message? You want to leave with them today? You know I think. There was one thing we always had at the White House. In that was, you can do whatever you want on your last day. Night and what they're Kinda meant was. You want to do something wild and crazy. Go for it because it will be your last eight. And fine. But. What I what I so I always thought about that right? Is that on your last day? What would you do for your last date? And what I mean by that, too, is kind of his I've to the point in my professional life where I'm ready to kind of start taking more steps and doing more things, right? I think it's okay for you for you to be all right with it being your last day, I think it's okay for you as a PT or professional to be like. This is the last thing to do this because there's more for me. There's more things out there for me to go do. And I would encourage everybody to do that. Do those things have? Let it be your last winter because it's your last day. Because you're GonNa go, do something else so i. think that that doesn't isn't set enough to us I think you know we kind of feel like we're stuck in these boxes and you have to kind of do this or do that like. I would tell you now. There's nothing stopping you from going out there and being your best. You so do whatever. Whatever you want interesting I like it the the the followers, the socials for for Juror on the bottom of the screen. There appreciate you dropping by. This was really cool. I got a little Geek. Before we went live because I was like. Wow, it's ask them. I was hanging out with Obama for seven years. It's pretty cool to me, Do you want to make sure people know again? Vice President of the federal section. If what drew was talking about today. Spice him interest. Go hang out with the people who do that. If you're a student. Start rubbing rubbing elbows together with the people who are doing that, ask those intelligent questions because one of those take home messages was. If you don't know you better, ask somebody who better than the people who are doing it and have been doing it. Thanks so much drew Open. Invite come back on the show. Whenever we'll talk federal. We'll talk We'll talk whatever. Thanks for having me man appreciate it. Guys.

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Orthopaedics, Breathing, and Communications! Oh My! New England Conference Preview

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Orthopaedics, Breathing, and Communications! Oh My! New England Conference Preview

"We talked t t drink beer and recorded like craft beer for your ears. This is the PTI podcast. There we go. Welcome to the program. This is Peachy podcast Chompers podcast. It saves physical therapist for missing out on Amazing Insight remarkable ideas and motivational stories. They see the best conversations happen at happy hour. Welcome to ours. I'm doing okay. I'm your host broadcasting live off from the Aureus medical Studios also known as my living room now find them online at a u r e u s medical, us medical, leaders in hashtag travel Physical Therapy subscribe to the podcast don't forget available on iTunes Spotify and Google podcast, wherever quality podcasts are hurting even where the bad ones are hurt will be there to Now video Cassidy's as well so you can walk along if that's what you get kicks on YouTube Facebook and Twitter at Pizza podcast on the social channels great show for you tonight highlighting something. I think this is just the beginning in this world off. Original conference right States coming together pooling their resources for maximal Value to you the physical therapist. If you're thinking about upping your game and you got some content dollars, you just want to educate yourself in a variety of topics. We're going to die in just a little bit with three percenters coming up in a conference happen in the north east, but it on the couch near you so great show for each night was bringing our first guest first guess tonight's faculty member at Sacred Heart University been involved in The Proposal peer review and Conference long process of the APTA Connecticut annual conference for six years J Grimes. Welcome back to the show here. He is Jimmy. Thank you very much. Very excited to be here. Thanks for thanks read me back on Monday J. First question as always always the hardest we get the hard questions out of the way first. What are we drinking? Well Jimmy, I've been lucky enough to receive a little bit of focal Banger from from The Alchemist local bank. Yeah. Well, this is The Alchemist from Stowe Vermont and this usually does not distribute outside of Vermont, but I recently heard that you know, maybe because of some of the the tourism challenges and everything else up there on I think on a temporary basis, they're Distributing outside of Vermont and and it's funny. I saw your message and a couple of days later. I just stumbled into a story that happened to have some so this is a special treat especially treat. I like it. I also I'm drinking a special treat and it was mailed to me but you seem very good. Excuse me, the Mega Ball Side PA. This is from a local Brewery. You've got some stuff going on with Con Ed continuing education courses. Yes talk about that. What's the website want to make sure we dig in fact? Yeah. So the the website is partners for Rehab Excellence. Calm myself and and Jamie Myerson kind of promoting some some continued education. That's really targeted for, New Jersey. Young professionals folks that are just looking to get some content but also get the clinical reasoning behind it and not just not just skills. And so yeah, so we rolled this out. It was kind of one of these these inventions that, you know, grew out of the covid-19 times and, you know a lot of push to online and and the lack of being able to do stuff face-to-face. So it's it's it's been a nice been a nice project. Looking forward to seeing where it goes. Yeah. Well, I did a voice over for you cuz you guys are doing some Social Media stuff, and I was like, don't worry about it, and then beer shows up the next day and that is the straightest way to my heart. So, let's see my friend who shares absolutely. Thank you. Thank you for surround is brought to you by a friend from the Owens recovery science. Think about recovery science.com a single source for Pete. He's looking for certification and personalized Blood Flow Restriction Rehabilitation training and keeping you need to apply properly and clinical practice their their own podcast as well OS recovery science podcast available on iTunes. And again that website Owens recovery science.com. So you got a pretty you got a bat leadoff. And you got Heavy Hitters in behind you. Yeah, that's that's that's real. This is a a bit of a different idea. Right? We're months into the covingtons. I think we just call them times at this point is Jamie Myerson saying how your partner in crime? He goes some states for specifically, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire and Rhode Island. Forget Rhode Island. Never never forget right off really pooling resources coming together and saying instead of Hey, listen, normally you guys might have separate State conferences, which is cool you get together with your colleagues Network a little bit but not we're were were what we were physically disciplined but socially together socially connected we want to be you guys decided to do something a little bit different talk about what you guys are doing. Yeah. So, you know, it's it's just this was just the seemed like the best time to do it, but we've talked about kind of doing this Regional idea for just the reasons you mentioned, you know, it's it's a lot of work. It's it's oftentimes a financial consideration, but yep. To put these these conferences together and and to make it a good investment for you know clinicians in the state that our chapter members or just even in a larger and larger Spectrum, you know, it's just we bounced the idea around and and just kind of never gain the momentum and all of a sudden it just seemed like you know what we're going to do it Now's the Time to do it. Yeah, and and like I said pooling the resources and not just from a financial standpoint, but but from say your physical therapy catalog, right? I mean you're going to get more members you're going to get more clinicians. You're going to get more folks that are out there doing good things and can get out there and talk about it. So it just it made great sense. You know, I think all very excited to see where this where this goes and and hopefully this is the beginning and hopefully it's not just a once-and-done kind of thing. You know, I think it's you know, the conference at each state level has had its own, you know, it's it's really good successes, but I think this could now just bring things to a whole nother level because you're putting now these these multiple States together and trying to combine efforts their house tables and say in high school. Napleton a good example right went to school in in Connecticut. It's good now. He's a Duke for residency. That's exactly right Kenny come to the conference while traveling in the past might have been difficult. But now he can pop in and check out the programming. That's the kind of the great added bonus like, you know, we're focused on a lot of things that covid-19 is taken away from us. I think we're going to order to talk with a guest coming up in just a little bit about some of the things that's given us. I think it's highlighted some of our I'll say opportunities and weaknesses, but then you can strategize on know and and make them strengths and opportunities and not have to just about threats and weaknesses right as we do the SWOT analysis. Of course, we don't cover that PT school. But I love pulling resources. So you're going to be presenting you've been part of putting on the the state on a conference in Connecticut before for a while. Yes. Yeah, you be presenting at this virtual conference. And again, we're going to put the link to the conference so you can you can get your your ticket. Check it out on your couch or whenever you want off. What are you presenting on what what value you bring it? Yeah, so, you know again as this all came together, I was very fortunate to be contacted by David Nolan who you know is is out in MGH Northeastern sport SC programme and and he was he had been preparing something for the the Massachusetts conference. And then again all these State conferences were were canceled and then the plans came together to do this regional thing. So to his credit kudos to him, I think he's been great kind of putting this panel together, but he reached out to various, you know, residency programs throughout the state and said Hey, listen, why don't we why don't we try to put all these, you know these sources together and provide a residency Fellowship topic that covers, you know across the four states. So so my role there is actually quite small, but I've been invited as a panelist that just kind of talk about the orthopedic Residency program experience in Connecticut. And with what we do at Sacred Heart. And again, I think David's on a great job putting this together and and his you know, I want to give him the credit for spearheading this and I think it is going to be a great resource birth. Folks, you know new grads or clinicians that are looking for more information on residency and and trying to kind of navigate those Waters. Yeah. All right. So you work in the in the residency in environment. I was actually just doing a little quick workout with one of the former residents out their Sacred Heart John Doe else who says hi by the way. Yeah, he's a great guy. Hey John. Hope you're well. He's he's a good guy. He's got some really cool stuff coming up in the near future. But off he reflects back upon his residency pretty glowingly. He he says it really it made a big difference in his in his clinical practice as an orthopedic residency director, How do you suggest now that some students are sitting around and thinking man, what's next where am I going is a clinical practice. What's that going to look like? Maybe they're thinking about a residency. How do you recommend, you know student PT's life out residency programs from afar, they might look very similar, but you want to make sure you match really well with one. So what do you suggest? Yeah, and I always when I talked to folks and I talked to candidates it's it's it really is it's not Thursday. Easy process to go through I think it's you know, there's not like one source. I think you know AB Tri did a great job of putting the the program directory together and that's only been a few years at that's been nice. But I think that's the first place to look is when you're looking at the APT re credited programs that directory of programs is a valuable starting place, but you'll see that that's just a snapshot and then you're kind of led to the home link to the program page and and you know how it goes. I mean as you go through these various program Pages, you're just searching for for information and often times. It's stuff that kind of has to be there, and and you're not necessarily getting the the meat and potatoes about well, what what makes you different from the other program down the road or three thousand miles away and and that's a hard thing to do. So I always tell people start their I encourage folks to reach out to program directors. Really. Yeah, I do I do. I mean it doesn't bother me, you know, I enjoy the, you know, I mean again on the on the academic side of things we're so used to interacting with them. Do students and the numbers are just so much more massive when it comes to the DPT students. And when you get an email from an occasional, you know candidate who's injured in residency again, it's just it's not the same volume of of responding to DPT student inquiries. And I enjoy those conversations, you know to hear, you know, different stories different backgrounds. So I encourage that email and I've even gotten phone calls may have given my cell phone and said Hey, listen, I'm going to be in the car driving for thirty minutes now, give me a call and let's chat because I know it's not easy to get the information off the web sites and it just it's not easy. So I think did that and then I think be prepared with some questions and and have a little bit of insight of what do you want residency to do for you? What are you hoping to get out of residency? What's your five-year? What's your ten year plans? Where do you see yourself? Cuz that can help you kind of filter through some of the options. I tell people all the time and interview is not like it's not a competition you're trying to win this. It's literally called an interview for a reason. Yep. Where you're exchanging information and you do that with questions, like right like we're always totally had a job interview always have a question or two. You should be I mean, you should be fifty-fifty especially for a residency make you should be fifty fifty thousand in that bus in terms of that conversation because you've got to know what you've gotta know what success looks like right as physical therapists. One of the questions first questions were taught as I was successful quite to you off and then the asking questions to make sure you will be getting success at this particular program and again winning or getting accepted is not a victory if it's the wrong program for you what tips for those applying are thinking applying so let's go further down the timeline. Okay. This looks like something that that I want to check out and I'm imagining discussing this more in-depth in the the discussion of the Northeast, again on November 7th tips on applying or thinking about applying when should they do it what resources that sort of thing? Yeah. Again, that's one of the other challenges is there's no uniformity with wage. Deadlines or application dates or interview dates and there's been some discussion about trying to do that. But there's just not enough support programs around different calendars, right but that that makes a little bit challenging. So I think you gotta start this process off, you know, like some of the program application deadlines will come up end of the year or January February time. So, you know now it's kind of the thick of it. I mean I know for us whether with an August start date, you know, we'll real quick to get the applications in and then do interviews in January February and have a decision in place by March. So now is kind of that time. You know, I think you want to go into it with a sense of where do you watch like the one of the big things already is do I want to go on an on an academic housed residency, or do I want to be kind of more than that clinical environment with The Residency program that belongs with in a clinical facility, You're going to get little different, you know differences in experiences. They're so so I think that's a big first thing to consider is, you know, do you want some teaching do you want some research and scholarship or do you just want to really Excel and Thrive and just be a month? First in the clinical environment at 110% or do you want a little bit of a kind of both of those things? And and yeah going back to interview. I agree with you Jimmy. I look at it as just as much of an opportunity for me to sell the program and to make it clear of of what Sacred Hearts program offers and and if people don't get that information from the website or other areas, I want to make sure I can try to fill those gaps may help people understand. Here's what we do. Here's how things are different than other programs. You might be looking at or what the university setting tends to offer. Yeah. It sounds like you're doing your homework right and not rushing not the shotgun approach of just applying for as many programs. And again, I want to reiterate getting in or getting accepted is not a victory if it's the wrong program for you that programs suffer cuz you're not going to fit you're going to suffer cuz you're paying for it with time and money and effort. So doing your homework sounds like making is one of the first steps. All right, so let's get real granular then good. Let's say someone's going. Okay. All right, let's J guy sounds like you know him. Talking about I'm I'm picking up what he's putting down. What are the benefits of a residency program? What's the first step in that in that time line going? Okay. What do I what's the goal here in terms of me when my benefits and I always just to my own self coming out as a new grad. And that was you know, I'd I'd say about sixteen years ago. It was sometime but it wasn't all that long ago and I came out as a new grad very thought behind the ears and and I think of how long it took me to really progress and to really get to the point where I felt like I was I was where I wanted to be and that took a while like thank you all still talk to people about those first few months or even those first couple of years where I'm like boy, I'm just wasn't really content with where I was and and it took some time and it took a lot of shopping around for different kind headquarters in different programs. And what I think residency does is truly accelerate that right A lot of people talk about residency as kind of a, you know, a platform to get your ready for board certification and job Absolutely does but more importantly than that. I think it just accelerates that development of skill clinical reasoning and hopeful clinical expertise. So I mean I look at where you know, folks johndon oils, you know some of our grads and where they get after one year residency and boy, I tell you that might have been five years for me just kind of doing the grind of treating patients and not really having mentorship and not having the advanced coursework not thinking about clinical reasoning certainly not reflecting on what I was doing and you know residents now hear me talk about reflecting all the time that there's no such thing as too much reflection reflect during the day reflect on your drive home. Think about what you can do what you could do better. I hated it in peachey's and I was a second career PGT student and I'm when we had to do it. I literally rolled my eyes and like get jobs are minimum. And since I've graduated I do it often and need to and I I do a little differently I do. I mean if you look at my apartment, it's just posted knows posted notes and I'll write you something down and I'll just walk away from New Jersey. Find it a day or two later. I'll be like let me think about why I was why I wanted write that down and how that was important to me and like it doesn't have to be like like the thing that intimidated with reflection was always like it's got to be long and cuz there was a minimum PT school, right? They wanted us to lose puts for some efforts, but but I hated it but ironically I do what a ton now and it's really helpful. Yeah, you know, I tell the guys all the time and I use the old you're driving home use your commute home from the clinic. Yeah, you know think for five or ten minutes on your commute think about the day thinking about what you did. Well what you could do better questions that you have is to why so-and-so is not getting any better off and then shift gears turn on the music, you know, and enjoy the rest of the commute but Take 5 or 10 minutes and just think about things that alone again, I wasn't doing it. I was like you I probably got burnt out of doing it in PT school and home. Okay, you know what I'm through school now, I don't need to be thinking about that. It's like well, who was I kidding? I mean that was that was not the right move. So I think that's the biggest thing. It's really just accelerating that development. I think the mentoring wage About every resident I've ever talked to says mentoring was was the biggest benefit was was the thing they found most beneficial for their development as a resident. Now on top of that you're getting the the advanced coursework wage. You're getting some Journal club stuff you're looking at evidence, you know, you're teaching in our program but mentorship and and accelerating that that clinical Excellence question does a person need to know exactly what they want to do walk-in PT that your residency or have you seen success with those pts who are like Hey, listen, I want mentorship in what? I don't know but I definitely want that and they did some reflecting and they're there but if they don't know exactly where they're having success with those pizzas and students who found a path in residency. It's a great question. It is a great question and you know what? I mean? Honestly, my first response is the residency programs are definitely set up at that specialty level, right? I mean, they're built that way they're built for, you know, got to Orthopedic residency. You have a pediatric residency. You have a geriatric residency. So to some degree, you know, I think they are intended to help you out. Develop a skill and knowledge in that specialty area, but at the end of the day, I mean, we've had a couple one or two that that I know, you know finished did OCS and maybe took a little a little segue into another specialty area. They just they needed to change they got burnt out, you know, they might have come back to Orthopedic so they might not but at the end of the day that knowledge that clinical reasoning those behaviors those routines hopefully good routines those are going with you and at the end of the day it's a it's clinical right? I mean, it's we're treating patients. We're interacting with patients. I wouldn't say that it's a waste I think that's still going to make you a better connection a better therapist a better person. But but I do you know with that being said, they are geared towards Specialties practice. So in that great though, like you mentioned someone going like maybe three Orthopedic red then pivoting to a different especially like how cool is that for a profession that you can just you can kind of do that? It's a great thing and I've seen it with my wife and you hear the stories. I mean folks burn out, you know, I tend to hear about folks in north in or wage. Dick's and they get burnt out of Ortho but the good thing is you don't need to go change your whole career. I mean my wife burnt out of Ortho and then she just went into Pediatrics and she became a pediatric therapist and she loves it. She's you know, she's very happy with that change, you know, and she thought she wanted or so and she was and just like that just on a dime you pivot and you go another Direction and and you know, it changes your life and that's that's fantastic. Absolutely. Love it. All right. So what we're going to make you leave Worth right right for a minute, but we're going to bring you back at the end cuz we gotta get through and this is what I think highlights the great thing about the conference that you guys are are drawing together from different states is your cut your your brought in this pool in terms of different topics all available the same time again, that's November 7th via the link is just below. All right, so you're going to take off we're going to bring in our next guests and down here. She is Angela Campbell no stranger to the show. President of APTA cardiovascular and Pulmonary section. Are you an academy intersection? You know, we're hoping to have our membership vote on that officially in about a month and half so bow could look for that sounds way fancier. I'll give you that. Well, welcome back to the show your critically passionate about the heart and breath of PT. If that's not a great intro. I don't know. What is it is that's me. Yeah, we get the hard questions. Either way first what we drinking today last time you were on this car. You had something fancy. I know, you know what I set my glass of wine down. So just tonight. It's cold outside here in New England. So glass of red wine say awful things up smart. I like that. All right, so, you know, we're given like a highlight here at some just some of the Heavy Hitters from the this this conference going on the northeast, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Massachusetts and Rhode Island, you are going to be presenting on this. So first off let's talk about this conference. I mentioned it with with Jay at the top of the show a little bit of a different Dynamic and I like how you guys are drawing on each other's strengths. You're keeping you age. Strong. Yeah, absolutely. I think it's a great opportunity to hear people that we wouldn't hear necessarily from our own State chapters. There's absolutely no reason to compete with each other offer our resources as we have seen with so many things related to covid-19. Everything is better together. It's a great way for students to still network with each other and just find out what's out there in the profession. I think it's going to be a wonderful thing. All right, November 7th. The link is is down below also put it in the show notes. If you're listening to the podcast which comes out after this video cast thing they were doing if you can't breathe you can't function. We had Mastery on the show not long ago. It's one of her courses talk about that. And you said you're you're in your intro, which I think is gray one. Right? I mean you just really talked it about really caring about the heart breath of physical therapy as a profession. So talk about you know, when you hear you can't breathe. You can't function coming in from a cardiovascular physical therapist or opponent. Where's your head go home? Yeah, I think you know, we're moving towards the idea of the movement system and thinking how all of the systems interact with each other. So I had been hearing as a cardio Palm specialist about a lot of people doing breath work with physical training with physical fitness with low back pain with a lot of different things and and really thinking that if we need to pay attention to all aspects and careful whole patient and we're going to do a better service to get them to be at the place. They want to be yeah, very important. We found that hourly you were on you run an earlier episode. I feel like we we did man maybe half Doesn't really cope with specific and that was us playing catch-up right you were on with do we have like five or six of you really like presidents of of different sections in academies for that apt a space program. That was a that was actually one of our most downloaded episodes of the year. I know I don't know how many people too early to be in our our wrap-up in December, but that's really highlighting the the different, you know breath. I'm doing their the breast like it my clinical practice when when you see the start to come up more and more and this is kind of like your jam how how it's affecting. How can PTs in this area of covid-19 improved breathing patterns if that's something they haven't heard about for a while. That's cool. What can we do and we're more resources. Well at the conference may be presenting on a section called the science of breath. So it's get you back into maybe a little bit of what you learned about PT school thinking about the physiology of how we breathe I think much life. That there's all forms of normal gate and there's normal deviation. We're going to see that's true with breathing as well. But what we want to know is can the patient breathe in a way that allows them to function how they want to so, is there something about the way they tend to hold the breath that they're carrying a lot of stress that's going to result in pain. But even how are we making sure that they're efficient they're breathing to improve their endurance, especially some of these codes survivors and this is something that you can do. I mean when you put it there can't breathe. You can't function what makes complete sense. I think that was like my first statement to marry Master room 100 on the show is like crack events and everything. She was talking about was making sense thing were not doing right now, but it's okay cuz we're in different states. And this is a virtual recording is wearing a mask. Right? Let me do the show for the apts aerosol generating procedures episode. How are people affected by wearing a mask? Even if not affected by koven. Let's talk about that because I feel like there's a lot of dead. Miss or disinformation. Let's just talk about this email. Well, absolutely. You know that mask will make you feel like it's harder to breathe because there is a barrier they're dead. But if you don't have an underlying lung pathology, you are not going to see any drop in your oxygenation. So I think there's always that fear in the public and and out there that you know, I can't get my breath or I'm not going to be able get my breath and really we know that it takes a lot of lung dysfunction before you actually see someone's oxygen saturations go down. I think that's important thing. And if you look at some of the the even training environment pretty cool, but they used to wear masks their training mass of people use and really that's about trading your ventilatory system to work harder. So given that extra load right that extra resistance to Bringing can free them up when they're without the mask. So they're not going to interfere with your oxygen drop that came out as a big story clickbait for a little while back. Months ago and a real outspoken physical therapist on social media or in person whenever we can go back in person was rich seven and Rich went to the micro level. I mean I'm talking micro. He was talking about the size of an oxygen molecule and the size of the space in the Mass is like here's the deal. I'm just on your size. I know you can't see it. We can measure it and now these oxygen molecules the things you like the are there you can you can be right through there. So right I think we continue to to to give the the right information and do that effectively and that's why we were glad to have you on the show a couple of times for this so subject to talk about what's this mean I found this somewhere beyond the ABCs to the F and don't forget the Genie's when discussing. Oh to well, what is this so that the big thing if you were following the critical care aspect of of covid-19 is that a lot of therapists were talking about this thing called the PDF ratio and is the ratio of your partial pressure of oxygen in your blood? Is a fraction of inspired oxygen. So how well are you oxygenating and how much O2 does it take to get there? And what we're seeing is that some of these patients are continuing to need oxygen or maybe they're even dispatch gets a little bit once they leave and then we still want to think about that PDF ratio, even if we're not in ICU therapist. So for example, if I can do something without oxygen that I didn't do before I'm improving in my endurance even though it's the same exact ask but now I need less supplemental oxygen do that. I'm improving that Peta every show and the Jesus song about, you know, blood gases and making sure we don't forget about them. So use the information we have available to us and you're digging into this during the Northeast conference on November 7th. Yep, someone walked away. What what are they going to be two transformed? How will they how would it be better armed? I think they're not going to take for granted their own breathing and they're going to think about how they might be able to incorporate some techniques into their own lives. I think they're going to be aware of just how they breathe throughout the day and you know, again, it's that it's that place we carry in stock. And if you do any kind of stress-reducing technique, it's all about harnessing the power of the parasympathetic nervous system and you do that through intentional breathing. And so I think hopefully just awareness will will be a great thing, but I think awareness is going to be huge and we talked about this several times when you came on the episode. You know twenty Twenty-One apts 100 Centennial hundredth anniversary. Yeah, I think we're really going to highlight the value of physical therapy. Unfortunately in this in this way for this region, but there's we we did an episode about a week and a half ago for post-acute covid-19 on this long haulers as they as they would have been labeled and and breath worked very very important both. We handled long-term. We there's some people who are in the physical therapy profession who been affected by covid-19 this around the block. Yeah once post is still a breather breathwork long has really really helped to increase their endurance and they're going to have to be doing this for a long long time. So it's a reminder of this really important right now acutely, but it will be chronically unfortunately. Yeah, absolutely. I think that's it's unfortunately something that we're going to see some of these long-term effects and we just don't know enough to really aggregate things and and you know, we're going to need to provide the services that we always do by looking at where where someone's impairments and what do I have in my toolbox to help them out? And I think if we can think about the whole person and every system we're going to do the best job for them. So come home to the north east conference. Listen to Angela amongst others and put some more different things in the toolbox. Anything else you want to before we kick you out of the bar and bring you back in just little bit. No, I'm good. That's fine. All right. All right. Well don't go anywhere. Just going to kick you off the stage for a third guest tonight in the heavy-hitter lineup president of the apts Rhode Island chapter and CEO of Performance Physical Therapy Michelle Kali. Welcome to the show me. Thank you very well. I'm pleased that you realize I'm from Rhode Island, since it sounds like a few in to forget that Rhode Island's even a state. What's how do I forget that early on just like, oh we did not forget Rhode Island, Rhode Island. We're so little and I think we're cute and we try to page big voice. But yeah, we're just a little state. I love Rhode Island. I didn't walk Islands in Rhode Island, right cool spot. I have many many memories and actually some gaps in my memory for several. I am dissipated ways of Road of Block Island. They probably involve a beach a moped and a bar. That is all yes. All three of those things were actually my trip to to block off Michelle. We met a gram sessions like well, I mean, it feels like a million years ago, but probably like three or four right was that San Diego you did probably sometimes those things I have moments that I forget as well not during the day. But yeah, I do believe that we've we did we absolutely did so you've got a a cool background and I wanted you to go third as a couple of times in the first two talks with J & with Angela, you've got this kind of media had that you get to where as well similarly to me in terms of communication. Talk about what you get to do is log. CEO some things you've got to be able to communicate both internally and externally, but you also do some different communication stuff within the profession. Yeah. I've I mean, I've had the privilege of being the president and she took the pr and marketing committee for PPS. So as a Founder on that committee, and I've been the chair of that committee for many years and we really put together tools and resources job is to help those in private practice and I wouldn't just say Private Practice people in the beauty industry talk about and message and market and even sell what we do and I know that PT's think selling is dirty thoughts et cetera et cetera, but but the fact is we do do it all the time and we need to be bitter at it so we can Advocate better and we can show it value and we can get paid and excetera excetera excetera, but I do believe really strongly and I spend a lot of time talking to students about it other people in different kinds of practices how we should talk about our profession because if we ever yep, To be considered the primary care providers and msk health. The only way to do it is to act like it and that means we have to be able to be comfortable speaking about it. What is therapy? We need to be able to answer that question without being like Oh, yeah, we help people follow blah. We need to be out of truly speak about the value and not just for the individual person, but for the the overall from a population Health standpoint, when we look at the downstream impact of what we can do as a profession so you can tell I can easily get off of my Sig way and probably took about the same way you can but I do believe it's something we need to encourage are clinicians at a Grassroots level from students to brand new clinicians. You have to be comfortable speaking about the home group volume of what we do, but let me let me see on a word that you just said there. I just had interaction on Twitter about this with someone and that's the word cell where I still log. No, I don't think I know it can come with a negative connotation in the person. The interaction was this. J who we had on the show is just opened her private practice and it's slave right and we really I mean during a pandemic she's doing really well as a private practitioner fantastic and she was talking about selling branded items like Thera bands or weights and and from her clinic and she was like, oh, yeah, I figured out how to do this to Brand my own gear and then sell the things that I might have been just telling people to go on Amazon and get selling that you my patience my clients and someone chime in and was was being really sarcastic and kind of like kind of negative around it. Like at what point what point are we just selling everything and my response was if you truly trust and respect the thing that you're selling because the thing could be your clinical reasoning your time your attention your knowledge your skill your hands your ears if you truly dead. To respect what you're selling and think the other person honestly truly needs it right. I'm not telling you to sell someone something you don't truly and honestly think they need I have no problem with that either and I don't understand why our Grassroots profession does have a problem. Like they think of it like a used car salesman. We're not we are professionals expert Amos Kane help as well as Pediatrics cardiopulmonary all those others. I think of all of those especially areas, but we're experts in this we gain the trust of their patients they want us to give them recommendations. They trust us over going on to Google and typing in what kind of stretchy band should I have? Why wouldn't we give our patients the option and to let them make that decision themselves when we don't give them the options. Hey, I recommend this Theory band or this or this or this. I mean, I think we're doing a disservice when we're not making those recommendations and even better. Sorry. I don't know that person you were mentioning but I'm going to check out who she is. But if she's figured out how to to Brand her products and build that up. That means anytime something that person has back pain or wants to run faster or someone has a slip-and-fall them. Don't wash their appeal and maybe they go there first before seeking out a referral source or going to another provider. So I think we have to get much more comfortable with it. I mean I never used to use the word sell because you know, you know, people are scared of salad. This is just another way of advocating what we from what we do but over the years, I've obviously drink more alcohol and you haven't asked me what I'm drinking age you threw up with the Rhode Island. What are you drinking now? It's actually not very exciting. It's a Monday night in or something really exciting, but I can't start my week here off with life. Really good margarita now, it's a boring but really good Oaky Chardonnay, but I think what's more important is what my my glass is okay for that or you it's not really worth being alone if you're drinking with your dogs, so I encourage you all that if not home alone and and need to have a cocktail especially during covid-19. Maybe I'll just send you one but then something like I trust you. I like this. I like your brains. I want to I want it right we have right you've built a relationship now wage glamour because that's the kind of world. We live in you pushing something. You don't honestly believe that's wrong, but that's just wrong. It's wrong exactly a complete yet. But we're selling human I think to sell is human says Daniel pink in a great book that you should buy and I'd have no monetary interests, but I think that if you trust me you read this and your time would be well spent along with $13 off $16. I agree. I agree so, you know, obviously we are preaching to the choir when we preach to each other here, but but I preaching in front of in front of other physical therapist who I think now more than ever are saying, okay, I'm seeing what these people are saying. These communicators are saying and you're right. I you do earn trust and you do earn respect from your patience and your community and if you abuse that wage, Bad, but if you honestly think that this person can benefit from this I would actually say it's a disservice not to offer them a choice a choice. That's what you're that's what selling really is off. You're giving them a choice you're empowering them. They trust you and I definitely think that because of covert especially in the outpatient world and private practice world. There's many practices they're having to returm and how they do the marketing or even have to confess it and they're messaging and so I've seen a lot more demand for Pete he's going like or how do I do this and really do it in the most efficient and effective way positive ways that speak to the values of my organization or my profession when I'm speaking and again, this isn't a pitch or PPS conference that's coming up this week starts on Wednesday night, but there's a girl I'm speaking about marketing and messaging it's all called, you know, stop the spaghetti throwing marketing like we have to figure out the right ways to message and a really professional ways to speak to whatever profession does wage. Yeah, I will say that this this is always been my kind of soap box, which is if you were in a Backyard BBQ, right? So Michelle is at a Backyard BBQ. Let's say your physical therapist, right? That's what you do and there I am over there flipping burgers. I'm talking about my back pain and you're like, you know, I could probably if you wanted to come by the clinic tomorrow probably show you a couple of things and that person turned you is like I'm just going to Google it and read a couple of blog articles cuz you know, that's free and you're like, all right, that hurts right? You'd be like, well, I've This Is My Jam, but now conversely if the person flipping burgers is maybe a Communications public relations or marketing professional and the situation where flipped if you were the clinic owner saying, you know, I just can't figure it out just throwing spaghetti at the wall and nothing's working and that person said, you know, if he could help you out. This is actually what I do for a living and you said at school, I'm going to read a book or two and vertical blog articles. Let's do a podcast. I got I don't need professionals, but that's disingenuous both ways. So I'm not saying don't read the books as yep. Therapist but I'm seeing respect that there's an actual entire profession. I have a degree in it. Believe me my parents were so confused. When I went from Communications to PT, but utilized professionals at what they're good at off completely agree. And you know, there's one other health-care provider that figured out how to teach people this as an undergraduate as an undergraduate degree heat. He's without a poor job, but you asked if anyone walking around on the street, what does it and this is nothing against chiropractors? What is the chiropractor do and I will guarantee I ask every new person comes to Performance. What does a chiropractor do and I respect chiropractor's office is nothing bad and they always use the word crack or back or manipulate and the word spine and fix it because chiropractors a figured out and they're so smart of how to message them value and you ask people what PT's do and you like it's all a bunch of stuff a bunch of stuff and we can get into this later and I've talked about this before I keep this in a post and this is the part about J. This is my Reflections, but like wage Talking about this with some people from the foundation for physical therapy today cuz I get to work with him a little bit. And this is the grunt test. I didn't come up with it. I read it in a book, but it's what do you do? How does it make my life better? How do I get it and bring your audience and that can be anybody your audience can't answer those three questions really quickly and succinctly and you just said that about chiropractors. Hey kudos to them cuz they figured out make sure that their audience knows how to answer the drug tests very quickly. They don't have to there's no doubt right take my money. Where am I going? And that's the thing whenever you're consuming social media content law book a title, you know, if you need a new toothbrush or something. What do you do? How does it make my life better? Cuz I'm the most important person in my life and make sure you're very clear don't get to the one-yard line, Let him know where to get it. Right which is by the way check the link in the in the the comments below. If you'd like to come to the Northeast conference on November 7th and programming will be available until January 31st. So great for people who can't join a gym. I've no reason not to join. So that was the way for me to give your grunt test. Okay. So oh that was my grunt test. Well that was that was a demonstration of of being communicate that absolutely and I will speak to that a little bit because I just promoted we just promoted a whole bunch of other things rather than the conference but I am really excited for this conference took the Hulk Hogan pandemic. I do opportunity to work with the presidents of the surrounding states the big boys I could say cuz we're just little Rhode Island. So Eric Fulmer Mark malloch Stephanie Burroughs so they became like my BFFs we met every week all through covert and they're amazing and through this week helped each other and we helped each other state we discovered how important it was to cut off right? I'm not a cardiovascular pulmonary therapist. I don't know anything about it. But the collaboration was Stephanie and now seeing what Angela has to say. We're all coming together to be stronger and birth. Through the summer we discuss what do we do about our conference? And I'm super excited cuz when I see who's speaking and presenting like Lisa van hoose on social don't know how long we've got eirik eyes and heart. I mean we've got this Telehealth, you know, we've got lots of really really good material that's going to be beneficial to help. Take care profession to the next life. It's not just muscular Muscular skeletal or it's not just for students. There's something near that helps to take effort into the next level cuz that's who we have to go now is when we reinvent ourselves, we have to collaborate and learn and understand these different aspects of care and be better together like stole it from someone think it was natural. Yes. No, she's pretty good at catchphrases at hashtag. But but yes, so let's talk about something specific. Right? So put your p t and Communications head on right you mentioned communicating with the state chapters for this conference, but utilization of Telehealth during birth. Like what do you see it as because now we're really kind of coming into two things that you love and do really well. Do you see Telehealth as an adjunct an alternative? Do you see it going away is is it off of the future? Is it a big part of the future? What do you think? I believe really strongly and I will say I've had a lot of my experience on Metric of time between code first hit the practice that I have them which shows because we didn't have the system setup. We chose to go a hundred percent our health. So literally overnight we took sixty or seventy pts and turned them into full house and we maintained a 40% caseload and at that stage we weren't getting paid for everything so it took a big risk. It was probably the dumbest thing when I look back. However, you know, it helps them learn super quickly out it engaged how to utilize Telehealth now, there's lots of naysayers out there shouldn't be part of what we do and undervalues manual therapy blah blah. I agree with them all dead. The Telehealth Epsom adjunct it gives us an opportunity to provide access to care for those people who can't come into the clinic and whether it's covered or whether it's a snowstorm or if they don't have a car off or if that go to work these lots and lots of reasons and talent help is just a different environment for us to practice. So it isn't engine. It's not one of the other I don't believe that these big folks private Equity Bank companies can come in and take out the outpatient clinics because they surely can't get the same outcomes the same following from patients the same value from them in person here in person here is amazing on so many levels that that human connection. However Tower how does an adjunct and we have to fight to now figure out the best clinical indications in the best way to provide it because unfortunately the array of quality of what's being done for Telehealth is all over the place right now. The studies are being done now with a with other groups. I'm working. To work groups with national as well as through a co-buyer eat our house section through the Private Practice session. So we're working on the clinical side to make sure the best clinical standards are set up and not just for outpatient. I'm excited for our panel that we have are having because we're going to cover Pediatrics Nerf neuro all these other kinds of settings and how does Telehealth been in there so long to figure out clinically the best way to do it and utilize it and then we have obviously got a deal with the payment and we're doing that at Grassroots levels with local players. We're doing a date with their big National payers and then obviously at a federal level dealing with Medicare. So there's almost like these three different advocacy components that we're working on and we need to continue working on but we need to have the studies we need show the research. We need to set it up. We need to have the schools teaching it. I think the beauty beautiful thing is one of my PTC to me after we sort of got back into the clinic and and we're still doing Telehealth wage. Just as an angent. He said to me he goes. No Telehealth was really hard and and it's hard works really hard work. You know, I got sick of doctor while cuz it is, you know, it isn't that much fun that fun for a few visits and you're like on rather be in person pretty seed. I learned how to communicate. I learn how important communities to yeah learning that skill and holding off the set and I learned how to do all that clinical decision-making without just you know, taking things for granted. I spoke to a bunch of students from URI today and I see what's your biggest fear and they're like that we won't get the hands-on experience and I see but guess what you're going to be way better communicators and that's going to serve you much better in the future of the profession cuz how you communicate with a person now how you communicate cuz you're not just thinking about their saw back of your arthritic knee. Now you're thinking about the fact that they can't breathe and they're having cardiovascular issues. Now you're dealing with the depression cuz they could dead. That'll work and do the things I want to do. So you're having to learn and communicate and I think that will truly help take care profession to the next level love that. I mean that was that was that was a part of that wage, you know for me a lot of things were hard, but an ortho we learned subjective. I remember a lot of my classmates were like, I don't how do you know what question to ask next? And I was like, well you need to listen to the answer to the previous question and they were like song Blown Away and that's when I realize oh I did this for a while. This is a muscle I flexed for a couple of years and it's terribly important so important and it's it's not very the problem is I think at PT school choice not very sexy, right it is, you know, get your hand under someone and cracking if drastic spine and go woohoo answering the asking a question then they tell you the answer them I figured out what's wrong with this person having to help them. Yeah. I actually got dinged on the subjective like practical exam because I because I asked an open like a really open-ended question I gave My professor crap cuz he was like, well, that wasn't a good question cuz my response was tell me more about that. He's like I told you I was like I didn't understand it and me asking you to go around it again. I didn't understand a smoke. It's not a check the box thing. I need to understanding I need to get something from you before I can give something to you cuz I want to give you the right thing. It's completely right I mean and and the asking the questions and sitting back and listening. It is for some reason our profession should be better at that as I try and help them help her colleagues with your marketing and messaging and I like oh, I don't know what to say if I call up a. I'm like some questions and like what do I ask them? I'm like, oh my God. What do you think you could you ask some open-ended questions, you are trying to learn you're trying to learn and then you're trying to find solutions to help them and provide value and they're not taught how to do it and that's life to be bitter and we have to be more patients. We have to be better with the overall public and there's no one right question box, right? So make sure you're comfortable asking them to tell people you want to sound like the the the most interesting person at a dinner party ask a bunch of questions completely. It just works because this guy's really interesting, but actually he's really interested, but he came off his interest ping Yeah, three I would add the the one thing as well and we're on this platform right now how we're recording and people are watching us live in they're going to watch this video later and we could zoom in and zoom out we can do all these different buttons real life. I would say get really comfortable long before you see a patient with your technology. I don't want to be fumbling you would never want to Fumble with a goniometer or a piece of equipment or an apparatus in front of a patient. Don't do it here either so practice with your colleagues or practice by yourself get comfortable and have a back-up plan. Hey if this thing crashes cuz technology is awesome when it works but be comfortable with your tools cuz now a laptop or and and this computer programs are part of your toolbox be comfortable with those things because your patient is going to be sensing your nervousness or not knowing how to do it. They're going to read something about that and they're right that you didn't come prepared. Listen, if you know your tool well and something goes wrong and you're fixing it. Someone can tell I'm super comfortable with this. I'm really sorry right now. This thing isn't just acting up but if you're freaking out and your eyeballs are like this you and you weren't comfortable with your tool that's on you. Excellent point I'll add to that. One of the other things that we're doing in practice is when we see a new patient now and preparation for some of the uncertainty that's going on in our community and it's not even Make my life better. No Miss visits and if you if you're stuck on time, but you still want to see me and then how do I get it? I will lead you to that when the time is right. I love that that's smart on you. What that's really good pre-emptive. All right, let's bring our our esteemed previous guests back in Angela and Jay every welcome back to the show off. There we go. All right. So I'm excited November 7th is where we can get a little taste of all this and more. We're actually broadcasting the keynote Lisa vanhoose. We're going to have her on the show off then I'm pretty excited about that. She was on the show not long ago. She can bring it if you've seen her speak she comes as we just talked about with Angela very prepared with a great message that people really really want to learn so that's that's something worth noting again the link in the comments below New England Regional Conference on November 7th. I'm excited. I think this is definitely a step in the right direction. I think this is a direction. That is I don't think it's going to go back even if in this Angela kind of touched on this with Telehealth when we will go back and believe me. I'm I'm all for getting back in person when it's dead. But I think they'll always be a streaming option which I'm excited about because that that increases access and accessibility. I'm excited to see where that goes. We're going to do something called three questions you guys ready for them ready? Three questions. Let's do that. Get the three questions music Funky Music Theory got three questions brought to you by our friends from Aureus medical staffing a u r e u s medical.com hashtag travel PT their leaders there. So see what positions they have em, all 50 states and Washington DC. Don't forget about the district in all settings as well. Not just it's just some people find them online Aur Thursday, We're going to go around the horn Michelle Angela J. First questions aware question Michelle you are in Rhode Island, but once safe travel, where's the first place you want to go in the 50 US states? Where's the first place you're going to head to? I'm really have to go into mountains in Colorado and climb. I get high climb pipe. I climb high and now looser registration regulation in in in Colorado. You can do both of those things Club Angela where we go and once you can go sleep, you know, it depends on if it's cold here when when safe is going to be but if it's a cold in Winter, I'm going to head somewhere South and warm bath. And and if it's summer then yeah might had had just a Mountains go to Alaska something like that. It's Mark J. Where you going to go once it's safe, you know, I always loved Nashville, Tennessee. So I'd love to get back to Nashville. He had never had a bad time in Nashville. Well all those locations you guys mentioned they have people there and with people you need physical therapists and that's where Arias comes in again a u r e u s medical.com leaders and hashtag travel Physical Therapy. See what's available for you. Second question is a what question so Michelle, you're going to lead off what something you've watched or read or listen to a book a movie a podcast something that you just think wow. Great, you think the audience could get value from doesn't even need to be PT related. You know, I just got the name of it. I know I discussed this. And maybe you have it in your notes. Jimmy house there. What what is the what is the deal that it's a book that is written by the cat. Blanks from New Zealand. Oh, yes your ship but it's like down and dirty leadership. But it's funny. Obviously. I'm from New Zealand. Well one obvious, but I am and the All Blacks are their National Rugby team and now world-famous and they really get into the leadership of a team and what the codes has done and there are some traditional and non-traditional things but it gets into communication against them to team collaboration, but it's really funny and it has lots of great lessons and I often seen that book two people Legacy James Kirk you off. Thank you internet. All right, Angela. What are you got something that book movie podcast. What do you yeah. So one of the things with this whole pandemic is sometimes you just need a little bit of levity and one of them, especially with the political world. I think of I'm here in Connecticut live in Connecticut work at Springfield College in Massachusetts, but was thinking of what would Mark Twain be saying about these times and and as I talked to a gym Masks so one is you know, just some of his writings but I really great quote is it is by the goodness of God that in our country. We have those three unspeakably precious things freedom of speech freedom of conscience and the Prudence never to practice either of them. So I'm thinking it how we should be helping to protect each other as well. So long between I love that love the levity J. What are you got book movie podcast what's going on? Is he get value from? Yeah, you know what? It was a ESPN special, you know, the the Alex Smith special was really obviously dead PT related, you know have a hard time getting away from that but with him making his way back to the field only a couple of weeks ago boy, holy cow and what that guy went through and kudos to the to the folks in our profession who were involved in that both his care the delivery of the of the documentary. I mean, it was great stuff. So cool to see him. Get back to the field almost unbelievable. How cool is that? A PT reporter Stephania Bell was wrong. ESPN she's a ptn reporter and one of our sponsors Johnny Owens mention of a top of the show. He was on camera doing the bfr and let's play Informer asks, you know Petey in Virginia. Like how cool is that that it would like a really great, you know, well positioned time and and then I literally had to ask the question sheepishly cuz I interviewed Johnny the night before that special aired on ESPN and I was like man is is playing really his go. Like I said, I'm calling is that possible cuz I saw the footage man and then when they were talking amputation and then he he came on the field just two or three weeks ago and I was like, oh my God, like I was blown away crazy crazy good price. If you haven't seen it as a physical therapist you need to and last question is always a who question always starting with people with Michelle with someone audience should know more about That's a really tough question. No, I don't really know how to answer that question cuz he's so many pieces that we should have no more about people should know more about you. Jimmy said that they should learn more about you more ability to communicate and educate about who we are and what they do. Is it? No, it's not Lamberth. I'm embarrassed my face is all right. Thank you embarrassed him on camera. Yeah, but get out there and keep you should be on you should be on those shows and make a sixty minutes and do all of that like take it a little dude. I'm in let's go maybe somewhere if you got an agent I can I need I need my face to stop being this red. So we'll go to Angela who's someone you got to know more about please don't say hi. I think you I think you should get to know Tracy Norris. She has been the practice chair for the Academy of acute care and working with cardio Palm. We've been doing a we're actually going to be presenting at cmk. I'm asking I'm bringing Vitality to vital signs a nice bottle sign guide for Acute Care physical therapist. She's also running for president of the acute care Academy. So our future president tracing ours is a good one to know I can get in there. I like it gotta stop going to stop like it. All right. So J no pressure. You get to follow that who's someone the other in to know more about? Yes. I'm going to get that question Jimmy and then I want to make another comment before you before you move on, but I think I would you know, I always think about our our future right are emerging leaders those emerging DPT leaders, you know, DPT students found a new grads, you know, it's it's hard to keep tabs on these folks. But you kind of have that sense that you know what this person's going to go on and do great things. And and you know, I think for the student leaders that are out there getting to know each other and this network, I think, you know, stay together and and do great things and and I think just trying to be on the lookout for who those you know, who who the future wave will be I think that's that's that's good stuff that stuff to look out for dead. But Jimmy, I'd be remiss I need to reverse the role here a little bit and interview the interviewer and of course you'll be you'll be presenting at our conference on November 10th. No, thank you for an up and perhaps you should give a quick blurb about what you're going to be doing on on the 7th. I was working on my presentation on my coffee table that I'm gesturing to off camera today and it was broadcast. Your profession is what I'll be talking about an office. I just want to bring in Basics like I want to bring in communication Basics. So I don't know if I'm changing the title of my presentation but I'm changing the focus. I'm doing the eleven Commandments of communication. I couldn't move 10 Moses was way more distinct than I so I'm doing the eleven Commandments of communication. I want someone to walk out of the room the virtual room on this at this conference with some things out of life and maybe they pick up three. That's really my goal. Right? I'm going to be realistic but I want them to be as we always say when you do a continuing education course like you do Monday morning applicable. I want you to be able to see a patient and go, huh? Yep. Okay, I can see where I can apply this and the things that I would like think I'm going to give you our Basics their provider to patient-provider to colleague provider to public like these are the basics. So that's the great thing about them is you can and should be applying these everywhere talking about when you you mentioned reflection earlier something you should do. You should be paying attention to how you're communicating. I mean this I don't want to get you know to Rome and should be advised. This isn't like a relationship talk show or anything. But you know how you communicate with anybody, you know a close relationship your family your friends listening should probably the first part of that the people know money talks a lot cuz I do but I do I try to do a lot of active listening which actually takes effort so active listening is definitely one of my eleven Commandments of communication. So that will be home in the the conference as well. So I'm pretty psyched about that and that's my favorite virtual conference to present. So I got to know my platform and I've got to change my presentation a little bit cuz this tool that I'm using is going to change so long That's kind of something we're talking about with Michelle there for a second is know your tool. So thank you for opening the door for me and let me know I have a worry we're excited to have you there looking forward to it. I'm pumped. All right last thing with you on the show is wage parting shot. Parting Shot brought to you by our friends at the Academy of Orthopedic physical therapy find em online or co-opt. O r g a lot of is CS that's independent study courses that they've got if you're thinking about as Jay mentioned like hey, maybe maybe board certification is for you current concepts of Orthopedic physical therapy kind of walks. You're right through there. So if that's something you want to do a lot of people picked up sneakers for the first time in a long time during covid-19. likewise, but now So, who's that? It's me now. Yeah, you you're now you got partnership. Yeah, you know what? I mean, you know, obviously the primary goal for tonight was certainly talk about our upcoming conference. Hope that that we can get you guys to join us there in November of you know, I think for a great price you're getting a very good amount of I mean 30 30 different educational sessions. I think something like 30 posters and platforms really at a very very very reasonable cheap. In fact, I would say price because of the current situation and offering this virtually and again, you're getting resources from across four states. I think it's a unique opportunity with great upside social now, I mean even a social network and we're doing a happy hour on Friday evening. Yeah, you know used to just do that with your your colleagues from your own State and now we got colleagues from four states within you know, three hour drive so good stuff off take a look at the programming and and consider joining us on the 7th live if you can or keep in mind programming will stay available until the end of January like Netflix. You guys are making your own Netflix special that's still available till the end of the year like dead. Sure. That's a very smart are Angela. You're at Parting Shot what he got for us. So just reiterating that mask work that the mask won't drop your oxygen and I think you know coming in to this page since you've got a long time to use it information. So go outside of your shell a little bit and try something new. So if you know, I I always say if I if I had if I had another dog keep refreshing it might even be in women's health. But so I love to go to things that are not cardiopulmonary earn about them and see what I can bring back in Connect those dots it's only going to help you and your patience ultimately are Michelle your batting clean-up now as we call here in the stairs at the important thing, so there's nothing no I want to say like, you know, what we are part of an amazing profession we can help so many people we all got in it and Now's the Time that are proficient has the opportunity involved and being the leaders and Ms. Cake here as well as all the adjuncts areas have to be the best choice. That we have to be great communicators. We have to connect with each other and what a great platform to do it. I personally through I know you think concerned because I end up drinking too much because we care but really I've connected and become such good for how many people if you make the effort to join for the conference room Google's meet more people investing more relationships and be a better condition and a bitter provider in your community. So you'll be a happier person for it. It takes have where it takes if it but it's well worth the it's rewarding and it's well worth it. So, please join us of it. Great Parting Shot guys. Looking forward to interacting with you guys coming up on November 7th through the end of the year if you want to watch them play as well. Thanks for taking some time out to have a a drink or two with us on Joe and spreading some good work. Thanks for putting together the effort and making this thing possible. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Jimmy great time ma'am. Was he loved the PT pinecast? Yes. 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Inside the PTA to DPT Transition with Matthew Gratton

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So find a begin that website. Go there you are US medical dot com gotta a great show for you today he said the best conversations happen at happy hour will welcome two hours. We're GONNA talk about a transition from PTA, to DPT. This conversation comes up a lot seed online and facebook groups and whatnot. So if you have any questions or comments during the live taping, we're doing this on the socials at PG podcast. Live video facebook twitter youtube. Drop your questions or comments below if you're watching the replay right now are taking a listen, make sure to reach out to say what's up on social or drop the word replay in there. As. Well, I, want to thank our sponsors Owens recovery science there a single source for PT's who are looking for certification personalized blood, flow, restriction, rehabilitation training, and the equipment you need to apply it properly. Pause there for effect properly. In clinical practice find them online at Owens recovery science dot complex Johnny Owens, and those guys kimberly go deep in their podcasts as well. Can't have too many podcasts you can't. Their podcast is called difficult to find Owens recovery signs. The podcast baseball's the movie So let's get with the show man. Let's get the cool music on. There we go. Yeah. Here we go. Gracia Free Nights. Tonight's guest. Professor Student PTA Scoutmaster. He's not busy doesn't feel like doing enough. Sounds like a lot of people in the professional bring. Bratton is on the program. Welcome to the program Nats. Jerry, how are you? I'm doing I'm doing that and that's a great question that I think that we're asking which used to be as throw it used to be cliche which the how. And now like the world or whatever people like. I think people need to be like, how are you and people? I'm. I'm not okay and that's that's okay. One of those is okay but I'm doing. Okay. So thank you for asking is what? I'm doing good man you know we just started a new semester at school teaching, the PTA program you know the first question those students asked when they come in the door is am I gonna be able to do my clinical rotations. This semester are we going to be able to do have lab in? It's it's it's treacherous time, but we're making it through it just try to keep encouraging keep moving forward and do the best we can. Look out you know in terms of you know who I get to meet and interact with doing this podcast a lot of my friends close personal friends or acquaintances or in academics. And allowed them. I would say how are you doing over last couple weeks in a lot of will go I don't know how we're going to be. So you know and the students you feel bad, we were all students. One thing I was never educator. But like we've all been students, you feel for them, I've never been an educator but I want to just be like, Hey, man, are you guys doing? How's it going? We're going to get it done I. Just I don't know how else to. Get it done. Oh, it's been a struggle I. We have some of our classes that we've actually completely rearranged this semester knowing that we have all this hands on stuff that we have to get in. You know. So we're pushing all front end so that if something does happen down the road, if covid explodes in our area that way we have our hands on stuff in so that the students aren't GonNa. Miss out on that time. It's handwrite there he's. Prepared Haired if it gets changed during the the the boy scout in you absolutely hard. About your superhero extra. We'll let people know if you want questions, comments, filtered drop them at any time during the shell we'll try to get those towards the end. I don't want to interrupt the flow but feel free that those those lines are open whether whether you watch those on youtube twitter or facebook. So Superior backstory you like give it to us. You got a cool collected. So. It's it's I am not the normal PTA DP student. Of started out as a as a chemistry major in college went to music education actually taught high school music for ten years. Transitioned out of that wasn't even sure what I was going to do my wife and I had three kids kind of figure try to figure out life. You know when you're in your thirties trying to figure out why that's different kind of figuring out there. Decided to go back to school as a PA. I. Love Movement Helping People Love Teaching. Always with the intention of going to do the transition at Finley. So when I sat down with books looking at professions, it was a what can I do and not have to move the kids not moves a family. So I looked at I looked at, it was like Elorza PTA in my tau, I'll do that and then philly's got this transition. I'm going to do that. So I mapped it out. I have a seven year plan for education and we're we're we're working through. It had a didn't were running on your eight year nine, but it's You know life happens but we're still moving forward or still added another kid to that too in the Middle Right. Yes we have. We have four children, three boys our oldest as a sophomore in high school. He's fifteen. He's GonNa get his licence in January it's. Teaching, how of dry? Exactly. Right. You know you're. So you're worried about your own education, you're worried about your students. So I taught the back of a second so did PTA school I got offered a job acute care right out of high. School. Worked in acute care for three years working with critically ill patients working in cardiovascular intensive care became a team lead there. They got asked to come back into academics. And that it will that was going on applied to school started DPT's school. Now Director of clinical. Education. For PTA program in my almost my second year of DP t school with boys I'm a scoutmaster for their voice scout troop. And then we just try to do everything else like marching band and A nine year old daughter so Drink man it's you requested always the hardest what we drink. We. We're drinking angry orchard. What's asking this a lot on the video cast a lot of people where you are angry orchard. Where it's mushed I don't know what you. Wall in New York while the New York guess where I am right now I'm in Walden New York so. I, read it on the bottom. Part. During his own from south of the border I figure out with the theme for tonight one I do a corona. You for coming on. Appreciate that now. All right. So that's a hell of a back story I. Feel like you know. A lot of people. Either have very straightforward or crazy like weird radio DJ to. Be. Any or you know your stealth, which is me. So we're talking about the PTA TO DP transition this comes up a lot how many how many about programs are there's not ton right so True Bridge programs to right. There's one in Finley Ohio, and then there's one in Galveston. Texas I believe it's Galveston Texas. Both are I think they're set up a little different Finley's based off of like in every other week approach where you go to campus every other week and you have two days classes and then everything else is online honestly have never really researched Galveston because. For Me Finley's our way GALVESTON's a flight. That being said, my classmates from Texas Colorado California. Florida. So we have people that fly in from all over the place. The class will only there's three from California Washington in Montana. So I mean, these people are making huge investments to be able to to do their academic learning in this in that van nat. Faxon. You went into this. You went into PTA knowing you're GONNA make this bridge program because of proximity. Yes. Why? Why do you hear what are the reasons and other reasons? This was a clear path for you but a lot of people who went in one direction in our saying, Hey, I'd like to change things what are what are some other a the reasons in the motivations behind that? Well, for a realistically a lot of times people don't understand the the the difference in in the classes that do the transition program. We have classmates that have been only in the professional year to. The youngest member of our classes. Twenty, three okay I'm forty five and I'm not the oldest person in my class. There's a one of my classmates has been a PTA for over twenty years. So I mean there's a wide range in ages and there's a wide range in why you know I wanna do it because I want to further my knowledge in the field some people want to do it because I wanna have autonomy in their practice. They've been working in clinics and they they see the way things are done there and they want to be able to different. So they WANNA get the background to be able to make those changes themselves that they don't feel they can as a PTA A lot of people are going in it so that they can help patients better in other going in for the right reasons, they want to be able to make those clinical decisions and and be able to create those plan of care for their patients Good. Friend of mine lives in Virginia She's A. Brain specialist as a PTA loves neuro and knows that by becoming a DP T, she's GonNa be able to help her patients more than just even if she was certified, she got a brain injury specialist. She's going for her stroke into at CS RS survive stroke rehabilitation specialist. She's going to have those by the end of the year and she still even though she knows that by getting her dpt, she's GonNa be on helper patients more. So it's it's just broadening yourself the point where you know you're making the biggest impact on your patients, which is what for all of us our goal. Yeah. Yeah and if it's not reevaluate, right? Absolutely. Calm yet. But what I've seen online people talking about this and you're really and the rest of the people in your classroom in unique positions to speak to this, which is neither one is better nor worse. People need to get that thinking out. It's not like Oh, I don this is worse I wanNA get here. So I want to throw that out of the way right? Right from the start absolutely a we are. We are coexistence partners in a in a patient's progression in the PTA could have just as big of an impact on that patients progression sometimes depending on the setting and how many evaluations in what the team needs to do could have more. You know what an acute care the PT's in the fours I worked on the PT would do evil in that I would do the rest of their stay. You know. So it was as the PTA I was managing that care and still working on. Of The P.? T.. But in our facility, we were allowed a little bit more autonomy than some in we were able to progress and talk to. Get changes to plans of care without having to do Rio thousand rebounds and rebounds agree of else. So I mean we had we in our in our facility we were able to really speak. Progress in but even with that. I would personally I'd still want to get more education so I can be better. One is not, but you have to have both you know we have to have people that are there that they have a passionate about just working with the patients and want to do that and want WanNa work with a PT It's we're interim we have to work together. A lot of times what I see is for frustrations from PT's working with PTA's or PTA repeat. It winds up if you if you question either party enough, it's the system there in it's not the provider it's not even the other clinician like individuals vary professions are pretty static it really a lot of times it's the system to the system. You just described sounds like a great symbiotic relationship, a lot of times I find PT's or PTA's frustrated from that symptom of system. Is that similar system similar? Absolutely absolutely a lot of the P.. T.. As that are in my class come from systems where they don't feel that they have the respect from their experience. I know therapists acute care therapists and other cities that are very much restrained in what they can do you know if the PT hasn't done it I, the PTA can't do at all so you'll have a patient that that the P. T. didn't decide to get out of bed so the PTA can't get them out of bed, but the tech is getting him out of bed. When it is. So it's it's this fresh you know that I. Never. Demeaning. How meeting is that as? Where person with no education can't move them. But you with the with education training in this field arnold out too because the PD. So it's it's you're absolutely right on the nose, the culture in which a person's working has huge role in whether that feels like it's symbiotic relationship this working together or that they're opposed. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the biggest. It's the most common themes. The similarity that I see is lots it system and listen I mean if you're in a frustrating system and you're not afraid you're not here. So I would people wouldn't WanNa go to a different system or change change their position, and that's really what we're able to do. We'll talk about past experience you mention forty five. person in your class. Our thirty three when I started PT school and I found this to a thought it would be a hindrance 'cause looking around the room. People were ten years younger than me. And I was helping all kinesiology degrees and I had a degree in journalism and I don't know how this is going to help, and then through PT School I started. Hey, subjective exam op super I love this interview I love interviews. Talk about you know the. The the advantage of really harnessing past experience to make the most of either your education and then beyond right absolutely. So with me personally you, you're saying subjective I'm in the same boat as as a teacher I. That conversation with the patient it doesn't matter how sick. Oriole they are to me. You know you can sit down and have a conversation and then educate them at their level. You know I can sit there and talk to a person and and really connect with where they are in there. And change the way I'm teaching them based off by past experience in in school in the. My friend her name's Maureen lives in Cleveland. She'd been PTA for twenty years. You know when it comes to learning the skills and the tasks orthopedics therapist. Stuff for her is because she's been doing it for so long she may not necessarily under got the nuance of that you learned. DPT school. On the why but she knows the what in in a lot of my classmates bring that to the table. You know some of us are neuro- nerve therapists, I'm gonNA, Acute Therapist, most of them orthopedics. So we get into those orthopedic classes. They're not GonNa Alpar in under professor telling us. Wow our traditional students. We're picking this up this quick as you guys are because the experience level, they bring somewhat hands on experience. They know what it feels like. They know it should look like they know what it looks like when it's bad when is going on they've seen all these conditions in now we're learning that nuance on the vow you know which makes it really for most of us much easier at least in some classes. I do neuro cardio poem. Those are good for me Orthopedic Staff. It'd be acute care. and. One more. One More Mirian you know. I think it should be like a special section on. Any application for college do you have any food service or Luke Yell Experience? Be like five or ten points. Nears. Why because sometimes when you see a student or a classmate or clinician somebody who went right through school right and nothing wrong with that hey, you knew what you wanted to do and you plowed through and good for you for having focused I. Don't have any focus I'm all over the place. And I did I did food service I did busboy waiter bartender, the whole nine and it just reminds me that quote that Mike Tyson said was everybody's got a plan until you get punched in the mouth and it's like if you worked in any of those industries. You understand that Hey follow this protocol. This is how I do in evaluation and everything I'm going to go from ADP to see already me and people who have different experiences are like. So this is how this is GonNa work and sometimes it does a lot of times it does now in its. You react to that. That is going to set you up for success. You're absolutely right. When I was in school I delivered pizzas. Now you gotta pay the bills. Food Service and retail. Absolutely. You know you run around to people's houses, introduce yourself, and you know they're they're not necessarily always treated is. A lot of times that man it's all about you got ten seconds. We Hey, how you doing I'm great to be here today right? Absolutely. Yes pants experience it's you know it's not critical but you know don't don't imposter syndrome yourself either, and even though we speak about imposter syndrome I speak about it but I'm completely guilty of having it had had it still have it. We'll have it It's reminder but that past experience is valuable and I'm sure it helps you. As well Oh. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know what guys you. You know your past experience guys what you your your path forward. What makes a good student because you are one and you teach? Flexibility you know I think I think one of the things that students run into in the ones that struggle the most are the ones that are unable to be flexible in the they approach perch information, and then when information is like when you get punched in the mouth, you can't adapt you know you have to be willing to accept failure. You know most of the people in my DP school class currently really really top notch PJ students, and now we get an in dvd school and you get your first be. Yeah he and people freak out and it's like, no, it's it's it's okay. It's we're learning. This is a learning process. We don't have to be no students to be able to graduate with a DVD we have to be able to. Get through our classes in past in the past It, we have to have realistic expectations. You have no walking in that I'M GONNA struggle. I'm going to struggle a lot in that's part of the process what I'm struggling. I'm learning more. Yeah, right. W-. I, attempt learning and stuff like that and. I'll tell you. Asked me like? Just, like Mardi nick fly because like I said he read as straight. Hours everything in school I've got an eighty eight and I hated number. Martin fly everything's eighty eight miles an hour with Jimmy. Ed It was like an eighty eight hey man eight and I look at my classmates who either studied less or more, and I'm like God Ninety six man and I knew my professors would be like dude passing passing I know but I busted my ass I wanted to be a higher number. Six months but I hear right now. and. I can say it to you. But I know students are are you know maybe you're not bill take it to her I'd know I couldn't. It's it's tough. I was the four point. -O PTA suit I had to get as in everything you know but it it takes really getting it handed to your once or twice to really just take a step back and go. It's okay. You know and when you got all these things going on, you know, what am I gonNA? Do I'm I going to not spend time with my kids? So I can for an extra hour? No I, you know if I get an eighty four on a test and a two on a test, it's so passing and I guess go hang out with my daughter. That's a win. You know if I got an A. on the tests but didn't get to spend the time my kids. which which is better to date. You're doing this law brings to I. wanted to talk about. Work School life balance because you're doing our pre again professor in a PTA program student PD program. Run around Rackham here in the background they're doing some no Dad Buick Club. Get loud now. How do you approach it because there's no one there's no one. One fits. But what's what's inside the you've learned being a busy guy. Okay. So when I was a PTA student, I got the opportunity to go to a couple of conferences and you've heard sharing on talk 'cause I. I mean you I've been some of the same conferences together. Sharon done when she was doing her student talks would always talk about crystal balls and rubber walls. You know you have to know what your crystals are. You have to know those balls that when you're juggling things, you can never let drop and you have to know which ones we rubber balls that if you let them drop, they won't break and you can pick them back up in. That's really. What it comes down to is you have to set your priorities on what's the most important things for you it all those can change this week. These are the most important things to focus on next week that may change a little bit and I don't have to focus so much year the the issue with that is some people think they're issue is should be your crystal ball. Going that's running into. Now I became time astronaut January in some of my coat leaders feel that. Scouts is crystal all the time and it's like well now. So. Like before this I had a had eagle, Quarter Monir Eagle Board review that I was at right before this meeting as guys I'll be there for the first thirty minutes and I gotta go because I have I have a obligation that made before this. So I'm going to do that and you know it's setting those expectations they understand I've got all these other things I do so as long as communicate, and that's the key communication. You know I'm GonNa let you know these are what I have to do. And it's going to happen. We're GONNA camp outs in October while DVD's school. So while we're on these camp outs which I I will go to I'll be like all right. The next three hours I have to sit on my computer. Guys what's the kids? Nothing gets? It's now. Look at work but last year last year during right before finals. In the fall semester, we took our scouts caving. So they were in the cave and I, was in my car study. And that's that's the way it is. You know you try to give opportunities where you have to, and then you step back where you need to. But family always comes first there's an issue with family. That's the first thing. It doesn't matter what it is whether the school school. That that always comes I know I've heard share and talk and say that the crystal ball the rubber ball and putting that in perspective I've heard her say that it multiple times but you said something different there which set it up in terms of a timeframe right. So let's say you you started school or you start scouting wherever the the thing that you're GonNa do you actually said what is what does it crystal ball rebel this week That actually change my mindset, which is, hey, sometimes, schools a rubber ball. WanNa time. It's GonNa be a crystal ball, but sometimes, it could be I let this slider I can let go for a day. I've never heard actually someone put it in that perspective before, and that's absolutely I mean because school at times we'll be easier there will be less assignments you won't have an exam that week the content is easier. You know you're getting into an area where you're more comfortable where you're not gonNA have to spend three hours studying for the test or four hours now whereas sometimes you got your light, your minds blowing up because it's so hard that you have to really focus in. So you have to be flexible. Go. Right now, I'm good. This is good. I have to go over here. And I. THINK THAT'S TRANSITIONAL DPT REGULAR DPT. If you're just going for PTA, you're trying to get your associate's degree. I. Mean I have first year. PTA students that her seventeen years old. They're just coming out there just coming out of school. They're taking nineteen credit hours with Amy Math, first-year PTA courses, and they're just completely swapped and they have they've they're used to getting all as in school, and now they're having to sit down and buckle. Never had that kind of stress and did have so a professor go. It's okay if you don't get A. You can take breaks just. Really refocus and thank and be able to talk them through that mental process of being able to go. It's okay. This good right you don't WanNa go through life and I mean crush everything like eventually want to hit some hard hit next. Absolutely. Absolutely I mean that's I mean th that means you're you're you're learning something you being tested and you're. Absolutely. If everything's easy all the time, you're not challenging yourself wrong room the thing you said there you put perspective in terms of setting expectations you know with. So my work someone brought this to me, which is the arc ever hear the triangle, which is the affinity reality and communication. So if you have to, you know you affinity, you have to kind of you know like or at least respected the person you're communicating with reality to be on the same terms if. You if you're on different terms, you're not you know and then when those things are achieves when you can actually communicate and you're saying, Hey, setting expectations listen I'm going to be very clear here. I made this commitment before both things are very important but right now to use the other algae, this one's Chris I can't let it drop right now this one's rob I will be back and I will get it done and that's being thoughtful prepared all scout things thoughtful prepared. There's always the theme that pops up in these episodes. They always come out. Haired and clear in communicating and a lot of times that saves the day not doing more just clearly communicating where you are right. You set clear expectations with people you're working with. So they know where you're at. So that way you're not, you're not disappointing them. You know it's those people that don't know you that have an expectation of of what you are. Those are the people actually run into problems with because they. They think because of all these things that I do that I'm super super responsive in I always on top of things and it's like. No You just haven't seen that side because you haven't had to deal with me personally one on one and understand that things get prioritized on a day-to-day basis and your email you sent me. About Service project two months from now may not be the most important thing today. That's part that's mis mis misunderstand and when you alive. Would also like thinking about those things and go why why why is this relationship really screwed up? Why are we not getting along and usually it's one of those three things to finish a reality and communicating enough I'm saying a lot but we on reality. Okay. Then there's that the warriors or you know what? Like there's this weird vibe between us there's no affinity. So this won't be successful so. The first time I was exposed to that was at Fox where my day job a Fox rehabilitation I had never heard of sat down with the Director of marketing is kind of like my counterpart. About the trial right I'm like, yeah and I was like. Let's review it how you who might be different than how often? have no idea what he's talking about but this work. What. That's great. I shouldn't be more forthcoming and if he's blocking because he washes these be like you didn't know what? Role. But but. You know What's what do you got to have you know? Is there something that someone's gotTa have to make that friends urgency 'cause this comes up a lot this topic especially in PTA facebook groups that I lurk in and I just kind of watch. I feel like you just have an auto reply, but you know what's going to make a good candidate to make that transition. Easy you have to be willing to make the sacrifice because that's what it is. You know you're sacrificing your time you're sacrificing your energy. You're sacrificing your ability to progress it your work. Now because you're not working as much, we're required to work in our program. So we have to work at least twenty hours a week. Most of US still work close to full time if not full-time but it's still you. They know your employer knows that couple years down the road, you're going to be gone for thirty weeks and not be there. So you have to be willing to make that sacrifice upfront when you walk in the door and then there's also as every DPT's student knows there's that financial implication. You know which actually is why the transition is so appealing because you're working. Making close to what you would normally make us a PTA while. Putting out what you would normally. Be a DVD student. So your your your loss, your your the the cost benefit analysis curve curves better financially better by doing that because you're working through it. whereas. The traditional program you're not working. You're. Working. You know something that's you know swim lessons in swim team coach and stuff like that wasn't. Team coach salary. Income who swim team coach talking? Oh. Yeah. But it's really it's all about the sacrifice you know I have I have classmates that have young children single moms. Kids at home They're sacrificing time with kids time with family time at work. To, try to better themselves so that they can better their their career to provide more down the road. And you have to know that going in I have multiple students every year asked me about DVD school should I do the transitions should I do traditional in in? That's that's a tough question. You know if you're coming if you're a a twenty something that has their bachelor's in exercise science that went back to get their PTA, you know an hour looking at DPT's schools should I go to school should I work? Then do the transition you know it's What he wanted to do you know, do you WANNA get working? Do you WANNA spend three more years in school you now, where do you want your sacrifice to lie in your life in because you start working? Now's PTA. Three or four years down the road, you may have a family Mary you may have kids you may have moved in its pleat this little. It's less realistic. You know a most of my classmates married though I how many the five at least five of the thirty six of my classmates have had kids since they started. So if newborns at home. It's it's real fun having zoom class with a baby crying in the background. Thing six months ago man that wasn't a thing. For classes though as we do stuff online zoom for everything. You're doing you're trying to you're trying to do a project guy in Colorado. By research community. Absolutely, Sergey P our research group doing we're actually I convinced my classmates do education based. Research Project. In there in Virginia Texas Colorado. So it's like all right we're even at nine thirty tonight. Down which time nine thirty? Eastern. That's win the mountain persons off work and using meeting at work in his clothes just finished. Like how you answer that question too because I was like you know what goes into the thought of if I make this transition or what you say and you lit, you didn't say anything you ask questions, which is such an educator which you know I give her you know the nod all the time, my my former adviser in Sky Donovan for Marymount University I'd ask her questions what what what tell me, what should I do sky tell me what I should do what should I do and she'd never be a damn answered. Pay Teachers. Professors, wants to give answers. She never answered questions answered the question with a question but. She taught me stuff like that at one. Absolutely. You can't. If if you give people answers, they're not discovering anthony about themselves doing anything. Ear just guiding them the way you think you should Guyq and that. They have to figure it out themselves. Yeah. Teaching fish verses given fish. So she got won't fish and I I. Haven't you're not giving anybody fish, but that's the way. Survive, long after they've left your your school, which is great and I'll tell you an eighteen old does not like those kind of answers. To That answer. I am paying you a lot of money you do. Now I will tell you which book or which website you may go find the answer in and go or even worse. She's Confucius I don't know what would which would have not that choice inspires you. Play twenty minutes. Later you're doing self reflection you like, but I hate syrup reflection. School, I wind up self reflecting dammit. They taught me stuff and. That's absolutely correct. Anything else we're covering anything else. We didn't hit on in terms of religious people out there who would be interested because the goal for me is have a conversation with you somebody shares this in a PTA facebook group. You know a month from now six months from now and could get inside anything. You'd want to say to someone who's like I'm on the fence because you can't tell them anything because they're all individuals right you need to. Watching should they be asking themselves? Really, the question and the question with everything is why if you're looking at this transition, there has to be a why behind it I had a conversation last year with a student. Who when she walked in the door for PTA she was like I am going go to PT school why well that's just what I WANNA do. That's that's not an answer. That's not a why. There has to be a reason why past experience is because you want to do something different you have you wanna be able to evaluations were why do you want to do that? And she couldn't answer me. There was no, there was no Y.. Know and that's really for me. There was always a why because I wanted to be as educated as I can I want to be able to to learn as much as I can so I could be the best I I can be. That's my y. In, but that's not everybody. Else's why you have to know your Y. You have to know why you're GONNA walk in the why are you going to spend hundred and twenty thousand dollars you know or higher thousand, ninety, thousand dollars or whatever it is why are you gonNa, spend that kind of money so you can put a d. in front of your title. You can't tell me why you really need to stop and think the end you know be because I want to be in charge. That's not. Right man. I WANNA be a doctor. Thank Dr. Bob. And that was a big thing in terms of. What I was going through school, which is people saying that well, you know Dr this Dr that Mike I was here and I gave this. I forget what talk I gave us in I was like, I, I showed up for two letters man I wanna be physical therapists right? I mean the the I'll be you know my mom loves to tell people gyms doctor. But that's only if you do something with it right? Right. I mean I'm honestly I'm the same way you know if you're telling people that you're going to school for your doctorate, they step back a little bit they. They respect your education and the work that you're putting in more than. But why? Because there's all right. Well. Want help people. So you have to know your why and then you have to be, you have to really assess whether you're willing to make that kind of sacrifice microphone the at sacrifice name any after make sure that you have the support you know I couldn't do it. If I didn't have a strong support system around me, my wife is incredible. She backs every single crazy thing that I ever come up with when I was in school I wanted to go to South Africa for two weeks. She's not go ahead. Go have fun you know it was but but that's my wife is incredible because she is okay with me being me and running full bore and being completed swamped all the time because she knows that's where my best person. But. Not Everybody has that you know. So if you don't have support in, you don't have a good why you're not going to be successful. So stealth. Before you decided to make that transition. Really. Specifically PTA DBT. So that's all right ready for three questions. Absolutely. Three questions brought to you by our friends Arias medical staffing leaders in Hashtag travel PT. Let your license. Let you move around the country PT's PTA's nurses. They've got a lot of different allied allied health positions and you can never travel buddy. This is a great system. To of you wavering girlfriend girlfriend girl work in friends whatever. You can just go and say, Hey, we want to travel together and they'll make their best shot to have you traveled. So I, say like treat it like A. Test driver, the country or paid clinical rotation. But now you're not a clinical rotation you're doing it. So try that travel thing man a you are US medical dot com go there suits failed. You are US medical dot com. All right. First question is aware question obviously right with our as being travel you're in Ohio. Where would you put three months in the fifty states and you're going to Africa but where would you go within the country? We do your whatever your thing is what you go. At that is a really good question SEATTLE. Washington. Yeah. It's nice out there and it I was there for. Two, we can have two weeks, zero rain I mean people every time on TV it's like rain rain rain. It's it's not nice out there. Second portion is a what question. What is something you watched read or listen to book movie podcast something that you think the audience should would get value from. Oh Gosh, that's a tough question. Because that would take free time. Four kids man. Also something that I've read that watch a movie could be quote book podcast whatever. Okay. So I I am. I think watching any movie on Social Justice Right now is is critical. You know under understanding where other people were coming from. And You could Selma go watch some. If you've never watched some before to understand sort of the strife that's going on our country right now, and how it impacts has been impacting people for fifty sixty, one hundred as long as a country has been impacting people. So you know try to find something that's going to be able to mind you just a little bit more on the struggles that we've had in the passed. Yeah. Say about the ARC triangle. Right you'd need to have affinity and reality. Reality. So if that's where I think a lot of disconnect is to talk about the triangle going to a bigger to the country or worldwide what there's not a shared reality when people say there's no such thing racism it's like, okay we are not on the same reality because I think there you think there is an all respect your decision, but you need to explain why you didn't show examples of there isn't an if I can give you the examples that there are. We're still on different realities they're absolutely. Absolutely helmet that. Great. That's a great answer right now last question as we start with people who someone the audience should know more about. Someone the audience should know more out. It's like some who's doing good work but does one under the radar or you know who someone that you look for? Enlightenment or guidance or reflection whatever. So. Okay. I'm going to do a classmate out because. Not Not every that we don't always we don't always the. Spotlight the our classmates enough. So I'm going to shout out to a good friend her name's Brady Stewart she's a PTA in. Roanoke. Virginia. She's the brain injury specialist was talking about earlier. Loves neuro she set up last summer a hike for one of her brain injury patients. Who used to do runs but? Had other medical things come up. So we'll get into the whole big story of it but she went out of her way to make a difference one patient's life and by doing. So made a difference in whole community by setting up brain injury hike through the mountains of Roanoke Virginia you know and. We have stories like that and every community, but we don't spotlight them enough. Reporting Point. Out there. She gets a boom Shaka. LAKA. I love stuff like that and that just brings back to that quote and it's a cliche. But I still like it's like you know to the world, you're one person. But to one person you could be the world man absolute deal. Good. For Britney, I liked that lasting do on the show is the parting shot. Party shop brought to you by our friends the Academy of Orthopedic Physical, therapy, find them online at Ortho PT, Dot Org leaders, North PDF physical therapy for looking up your game consider joining the Academy of the Academy of Damn it. They know what they're saying also great court course listings. Tissue tolerance is something new running athlete is out there I feel like. 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There is a Serious Problem with Diversity in Physical Therapy  Mark Milligan

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There is a Serious Problem with Diversity in Physical Therapy Mark Milligan

"Hey before we get started i. just wanted to say thanks to our longtime sponsors are es medical staffing helping you physical therapists or physical therapist? Assistants find jobs all over this country with position. All settings in all fifty states. Find out what they have for you at a U.. R. US MEDICAL DOT COM. That is a U.. R. E.. US MEDICAL DOT com. Follow US online at PT Podcast and subscribe on I tunes, spotify or Google podcasts. Yeah! It's it's awesome. All right, what's up? PT Nation Walk into PT Podcast podcast that saves physical therapists like you. For missing out on amazing insight, remarkable ideas and motivational stories in the world of physical therapy I'm Jim McKay your host. We are broadcasting live from the medical studios also known as my bedroom. Find them at a you are a US medical dot, com leaders and travel physical therapy. If you are looking to do what you WanNa, do it should be a great therapist somewhere in the fifty United States all different settings. They've got positions for us. Check out. You are US medical dot com, great show for its doing double shows back to back first up. We got a great guest. WHO's going to be talking about well? My presentation gave it CSM it was so great that I had several people reach out and say you need him to talk about this some more, so we're going to get into that about diversity equity, inclusion and kind of the science behind how we looked into his own community, so we're going to dig into that. Let's hear from you. Comment questions below. If you're watching a live video cast by facebook or twitter feel for interact. Let us know where you at where you were you watching from. Drop in there and say hi went up. We'll say hi back. It'll be hysterical and then the challenge I've been doing I've been getting these random text messages because I've literally just been giving away my phone number and people like that's probably Google number. It's not as actual number. challenged me. That's my actual phone number, so if you've got something, you deserves to be on the show. feel free text me. That's my number there. It'll start digging like crazy as we did in the last show, so that's pretty cool so Let's get today. Show on the road our guest today physical therapists usually out of Austin Texas. He's looking to revolutionize his profession through technology empathy connection love. And doughnuts. Let's bring in Mark Milligan. Doughnuts. To get the doughnuts in there. Jomon, Thank you very much. It's an awesome, and I appreciate being here in finally getting connect with you. Live by your show, even killing. This was one thing, my my My professor before professor skied on of information was like. Did you see mark? Millions thing at CSM and I was like no, and she's like you've had him on the show before. It was like yeah, and I was like. Heaven I 'cause, I talked a million times, and I was like Oh shoot I don't think I've had him on the show. So glad you on here. first question's always the hardest. We get this out of the way I. So because I am normally in Austin Texas, but my family and I are decide the physically distance on a small island in Florida for a month. Really had the go. Thank you, thank you, it's amazing. I recommend it. I had to go with a local. This is a key billy in. It's a it a with key lime juice right inside Nan going very goal like that super hyper local, and it's a delicious Nice I. Haven't in a glass. Nice Amber, nice color to it Yeah, so that's what I'm drinking so not too hard enough. I'm make full screen. I'm doing local to living in upstate New York poughkeepsie new. York, this is mill house brewing. I liked the name just when you want a beer when you're just gonNA. Get our tropical. In our official pizza pine class so cheers, do you mark milling? Cheers cheers. Tears. Golo head on that one. Marash For Recovery Science single source for looking for certification, personalized blood flow, restriction, required station, training and the equipment you need to properly apply. In clinical practice, a lot of knockoffs out there Johnny McCain these guys are involved in the research and education in the implementation. Check them out that number text sky there to Owens recovery science. Dot Com Let's get mark socials on the screen. If you want to follow along on how you can find him, so check instagram twitter there as well. You're Kinda. I want to start with this. You're kind of like the CSM. No strings Domus this past year. Sandwich was in February, which also feels like a year and a half ago, but somehow it's only several months ago, but you from presentations at CSM right to write. Found to one was telehealth how to leverage. For more than just treatment. We had to adopt that just a little bit. On was better together in diversity, equity and inclusion transforming society through equitable policies man. If you didn't pick two topics February of twenty twenty, that would literally be pushed to the forefront by a among like less than a month later, those were two topics, and you did presentations on both of those things in Denver Wow. Yeah? Yeah, it's I've gotTA. Say Yes, and. The the telehealth stuff I've been rolling for a few years always paying attention until four months ago. And the I that was. That was a culmination of not me like I just happened to be a part of a group of dog Magnusson. And I'm GonNa Robert in the there was like sixteen people on the I, and just because of our conversations on twitter on social media that I happen to just be included in that it was an on. It was a pleasure and an honor to be a part of the people in the group that. I think we had four or five presentations over the course of two or three days to to try to make an impact on the I in in fiscal therapy so It was not me at by any means I was just a part of an amazing crew that that brought the fire so It was a pleasure, but you are right like. Those two topics could not be more poignant in our profession than they are right now. Maybe address. Right I love when people say well, this is an overnight success. You really you. You picked up on that in February, but as you mentioned discount, these are conversations that were had happening, but needed to be happening more, and that's why we like when those things pop up, see them and you want to. Totally we I mean I've I've lectured on telehealth at a opt. At CSM for multiple state, practices state organizations over the course of the last few years in the conversations. We've been putting those presentations together for a year I. Mean they the backstory on putting together semi? You know CSM presentations there do. Two months after CSM style in right, so they're do by if CSM is in, you know in February like dude. Wait. What was the extent more share? They're doing April or March and April so like you have to plan the stuff out, so I think that the. The rumblings in the bubbling have been there for a long time, and the voices just came together at the at the right time to to make it no so. I mean to be honest like it's a shame that it's taken this long for those type of topics to be at a national conference like it's. We have to step it up. That we want to start was I remember I heard several people walk out of your part of your presentation and say wow. This is a conversation so sometimes. It's not that the topic hasn't been presented. It hasn't been presented either enough right, so you would go back to like my communications background frequency. Assault exercise, prescription, right frequency and intensity, time and so frequency. We talked about it a few times. It didn't land. Would you ever tell your kids to clean their room wants no of course not gonNA. Keep repeating that over and over again so increase. Its. Intensity. Someone who who hits the right message at the right time in the right way. That's really like a good fit principle. If you WANNA see a parallel so you really highlighted it by giving an example in your own home city of also in Texas and you said listen, I'm going to give you real. Practical tactical examples of this, not just saying there's a problem out here in the country which is kind of in the ether, you really line things up in your town and giving specifics, examples of roads and railways like things separating arts of towns. Educate US I think this is. So. In our discovery topics for the speaking on D. I in Denver we we as a group, Eka and dawn. Robert I kind of took on different levels in ways that that said like inherent segregation and racism occurred in our cities and so. Often in the south right I grew up I was like full transparency I was born in Louis I was born in Texas. My Dad was military grew up in Louisiana. Right spent most of my formative years in the deep south got to Colorado by way of. Needing to get out of the south, and then back to Texas right, and so it's been kind of journey of growing up in deep deep southern, ingrained way of like segment, segregation, racism, right, and so getting out and going back in and seeing what it looks like seeing what it doesn't look like. It it opens your eyes right. Because when you're in it, you may not see it. So in this discovery process of our talk for CSM. I've doing research on Austin. It became obvious that Austin had significant. A significant pass in segregation Simic oppression and divisive and And inherently racist policy in so I wanted to bring that to the topic because I think so many people came up to me after this topic, assimilate said Look I look. I'm doing this research in my city. I'm I'm looking at where I live, and seeing the same thing, and so I looked into red lining, which is a in the. In that term originally was about loans for home mortgages. Right it was redlining. They would put districts around highly. I guess highly risky areas that were racially diverse, and so the loans would not be made to those racially diverse areas, so if it was a red line district, you're less likely or impossible to get funded in home, equity loan or some type of loan for property. So. Looking back at Austin. I was like you know what this is clear that these districts are still present like living there in I ride my bike, a ton I ride my bike all around Austin. So seeing in writing neighbors notice differences where sidewalks are. where safe of bike paths are where you know those are, they're not. And so looking at just it really struck home. Like what does it look like today? Because of these policies that were put in place since eight eighteen hundreds around slavery, and how does it look like today? And so I I I there was a great paper and I can. We can send this out to the listeners we can link to it. That looked at the red lining districts, and then looked at income and looked at population kind of diversity over time in Austin and it became very obvious that these redline districts were still an issue both financially. And access, not only healthcare, but two grocery stores physical therapy in other. Just normal things that other people in other races and other. Economic of echelons don't think about right and. The things that you're talking about Mark I. Just want to sum up where. They're they're? They're in plain sight, right? They're hiding in plain sight, so they're very obvious. If you know what you're looking at, and you did, but they're also rooted because you're saying. These policies have been in place for so long, and they're right there. In a lot of us are looking right at it and say it's even everything's equals equitable. It's not and the policies. I can't stress enough for people and TT's in their communities to look back at policies that were drawn and written early on. Look at. Economic diversity within racial diversity within your communities and look where the lines are drawn right in Louisiana. Louisiana in a lot of the south railroad tracks that made the difference between neighborhoods and adequate cliche. Right the other side of the tracks. I mean I know early Cliche I never knew it, and which is something we said it's so painful, but it's true and in Austin it. Was I thirty five, the major interstate divided? Between. Where the where the policies made for very inhabitable, uninhabitable and not very nice situations to the nice situation right. And the the the east side by thirty five. That was the red line district. The West side was not. The east side was where policies were drawn in the crazy thing is is that it was written by like twelve or thirteen people? In the in the early eighteen late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds into the mid nineteen hundreds like twelve or thirteen people were deciding the fate of tens of thousands of people because of their own racial issues, right. And so when you look at how it brought forward, you can look at the map and look at population density. You can look at The the the population race in in all of the demographics, and it just continues through generations or decade after decade, and then you overlay maps which I did for see him of grocery stores, right? There's a Austin started. A whole foods started Austin right whole foods. Would be considered. You know other people call it whole paycheck, but like. I mean it is what it is, but like there's four five whole foods on the west side of I thirty five zero on the east side right? There's one grocery store that's major. That has a as an ethnic name on the east side of Austin. There's a few gyms right there zero. PT Clinics. And so like as it pulls forward, the repercussions of the decision, making and the policy Choices compared to generation after generation. Right and on the east side there's less sidewalks streetlights. It's less safe like you're more likely to die on the east side Boston life expectancy changes, and I think that was one of the things that brought it home less than a half a mile apart. You can have a ten year difference in life expectancy. Wow in one city. I. Mean You talk? You talk about street lights and sidewalks. Talk about food. You Food and we've had this conversation before which is. I feel like I learned the term food desert. And I had no idea what the heck that will never really grew up in an area where there weren't supermarkets within five ten minutes and then Patrick. Berner, who's a registered Dietitian and a physical therapy? Food swamp and I was like what's food swamp? He's like well, so that means like you have outlets to get food, but that food is at lower call is typically like a convenience store or gas station. So yes, you're eating, but what's second, do to your quality of life. What's that GonNa? Do to your healthcare costs over time in your safety and your and your life expectancy all those things. I think one of the most telling things and I saw the statistic a few years ago is the. You know when when people when they put calories on the news, right? What was that like five years ago six years ago? Everybody thought that people were gonNA make better decisions. Right they're gonNA. Look at the menu and say Oh. Wow, that has that many calories I'm gonNA. Buy this right. There was actually one study that demonstrated that the exact opposite occurred in lower. lower socioeconomic. Communities where they needed in. They knew they needed to buy the most calories for the least amount of money. while. They need to feed their family. Right and I think if you look I don't. This quote me if I'd like, please. Fact. Check me on this, but I think that the most calories per dollar. In this country in the world are of McDonalds. McDonalds McDonnell cheeseburger on their menu for dollar. It's like three hundred ninety calories for one dollar. You cannot get. You can't get more calories than any other food source than that one Burger Brian so families were ordering. The most amount of calories for the least amount of money, so they could feed their family. Say Look. You're this in your community. In Austin, Texas and you realize that these barriers exists and the second part of the graphic on the screen. Really it even if you don't think so rights, we're talking about this a lot. which is like I understand. If you don't believe in a virus, science doesn't care. That's very relevant. I don't care if you don't believe in science. Science happens regardless so this is the pair of systemic barriers exist even if you don't. Don't think so, and you're highland those examples all around town any other that come to mind from your talk or any that you heard from other people after people heard your message so I think there was Warren PhD student from Baltimore who was doing research in Baltimore another student from Oklahoma City. He would mention that he was looking into this in his city like I. think that I mean your point. Systemic barriers exist even if you don't think so. I think that speaks more to the blinders that we have on his professional. Like I think that. We really need to communicate to providers in a way that they. Understand that these things exist in it's it's not so. This is a tricky topic. Right because if you try to communicate to somebody that something exists that they don't want to acknowledge. It's probably because they feel guilty about it. They don't WanNa. See it right. So, how do you as a provider who may be white may be effluent. Who may not have issues that you know about? How do you acknowledged them without? Will first of all just knowledge him without feeling guilty right because a lot of people. When you tell them or ask them and say look, this is happening. You have to see it in admitted. There's there's a part of that person that feels guilty about it. You're right and I think that that's one of the biggest barriers we have to get over is that? Right like if you didn't know about something or something is occurring in, it's brought to your attention. You shouldn't get defensive about it right and that is you see right away as well. I didn't do this this me. My problem. I one that I saw. It really was privileged. which it as a communications marketing guy, I'm not saying I would have just switched the name right because you mentioned. You're on a cyclist. And I heard this was someone else's analogy, which put it really good perspective about walked away. I was like well. That makes sense. It's not saying that you is as a white person or someone who is economically advantaged. You'd have didn't have wind at your back. That's not what we're saying. We're things you didn't have wind in your face. That's all. Right that's it and as soon as I heard, that was like Oh, I can picture what it's like Iran with my face, and what am I back and no wins and I understand what you're saying. Totally and then I would also further that that you started halfway through the right. Right! Yes, also valid. Where just start? Right exactly so you may have. Both parties may have one in their face, but you started sixty miles ahead right? I think that is where privilege comes in right, and so understanding the fact that. Even if It's hard to put in there, so many I love some of the videos that are out there on perspective. There's one video of a person who's doing a. they're doing running ranks right like a hundred yard dash, and then he's like you know. Everybody starts on the same line, and then he's like if everybody had two parents in the homes, take a step forward or take ten steps word you know if every, whoever had you know? Food on the table every night. Take two steps for puts it in a place where it allows you to understand that. It's not your fault for having advantage right, but it is something that you have to acknowledge where other people don't in. That's where the chasm is. That's where we have to step in and say look we need to. We need to get people on the same starting line. With the same bike, same pair of shoes, same wind. Same Wind. And let's ride together. Because? That's people aren't writing together. We can do cycling analogy all day. People are not writing together. There's people that are in the League group. There's people that are. In the back group, and that's not in. That's not ok on any level especially on the PT Right. Oh Jimmy like there's this. This has such implications, not only for us as a profession. But also as practitioners in our patients. Right because. Like we have biases that show up right we have. I mean all of the programming that we have from our parents or grandparents. Right like because how we are raised in the information in the in the knowledge that were given shape our beliefs as adults. Jerk might agree on that right. And so like how you? Are Programmed in what you see. Show up in patient care. In those biases, not racism that sexism, all of that shows up in your professional life. And I'm really one of the biggest messages I'm trying to put out there is that PT's need to recognize their own biases. They need to dive into what they do in. One of my favorite examples, I. Mean you treated in the clinic, right? We all. Do we all do we all did? Like when somebody comes in. You, have that favorite patient. You have that patients like all Wait till you know Jimmy comes in on Monday. Dude. He's also He's schedule. We're gonNA talk about cycling. He's dope. He's got a bad ass podcast like he's. He's awesome. Right in the also have the patient. You're like both. Kate believed like frank is coming in. He's so frustrating. He's not like all he does. Is Talk about this stuffy so like? We think those things. But what does it look like in clinical practice? You'RE GONNA get a lot more to it. Let's say you show up at the same time Bryant. Who's going to get attention? is a Jimmy. WHO's awesome. Who has topic to talk about engaging or is a frank? You were going to get a better level of care. Like how? That happens across person race creed color like that. We have to acknowledge that we. Even though we may not see it, or we may have our own blinders on. We treat people differently in the clinic. And after a decade clinic I've seen it and I see the bias. The blinders that providers put on like I don't I I treat everybody the same. High Challenge people to. Really, question is or not, they treat. Everybody notes so that goes into the second part. Even if you don't think so, so I guess like you know. What did they say? You can't fix the problem unless you I identify and actually admit. I've. And that's I think a lot of people are doing that I. Hope they are I. Know I've been doing over the last few months. Either on this show were trying to make a concerted effort to say like. Hey, maybe maybe just as guilty of this as anybody else, and we have a large stage that makes it worse if we're multiplying the problem. A, lot of people that I. Know Myself included are having difficult conversations with people around us. And even not remaining silent sometimes is all right I'm I'm going to be the person to bring this up. I'm going to call the out and trying to do that carefully, but also. Make? Sure you don't gloss over. And say I know it's going to be uncomfortable. Conversation I'M GONNA. Ask you this. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. Say a few things that you might not agree with but. Me Not saying them. Is Worse. Yeah complicity guilty is guilt. Right like you have to have. This is when we have to bring in our own. Emotional status in our own comfort level right like Lisa vanhoose slightly do Lisa like she needs to be a guest on if she hasn't been on your, she needs me a guest five times. Like you have to be comfortable. Being uncomfortable and it's in that goes back to my original statement. It doesn't make you guilty. People couple uncomfortable and confrontational conversations with guilt. It's it's couple from childhood. Because that's often how erased right? When you do something wrong, you're guilty, you're. There should be guilt. There's punishment. and. We've got a flip and get out of that mindset and understand that conversation between two people doesn't there doesn't have to be guilty party, right? There doesn't have to be, but there needs to be an understanding in the communication, right? We're both people can be heard. And offer information without getting defensive and feeling guilty, and like that's one of the biggest barriers I see in. This goes back to a conversation I. Have My my buddy. WHO's a doctor clinical psychology on the show every once in a while and he actually we went over shame versus Gill. Were your words I'm like well. They're the same and he's like nomination. So I think a lot of times. It's not even guilt I feel like a lot of times. It's shame and the difference there that Jamie repeat several times because I want you to know the difference these. Shame is I'm a bad person. Guilt is I. Did something wrong and I feel guilty about it? Shame is I am bad. I feel like some people are feeling shame, and that's deeper rooted and they're gonNa Ridge anything. You'RE GONNA say you've done this. They're going to go. I feel ashamed that I rejected. Because you're saying I'm a bad person or I'm feeling that what you're saying is I'm a bad person at the corps when the perse had actually just be saying. Hey, you might be doing something even if you don't think so. You might be doing it not bad on you, but you should recognize early. Perspective. Yeah! Shame I. Think is one of the. Fundamental like shadow feelings and emotions that people purposely or Unintentionally tag into in Thomas. Jersey, because we bad because Shane means, you're not part of the group Shane means you're ostracized showing means that you have willfully done something wrong. There's a deep shame shame. Shame and blame are two of the biggest things that we can look at. As a parent of eight and a half year old that that type of dynamic comes into play all the time. Right like how do you communicate to a child? Because most of the emotions that we deal with are born of our childhood dill. Dill. Like. A generational trauma like it carries through from us into our relationship I consider interesting when you look at relationship, some of the best reading in some of the best information gotten about myself in how I communicate is about relationships right in relationship doesn't have to mean intimate. Every communication every friendship is a relationship, so there's a fundamental people say oh, you're This isn't a relationship, right? There's a we've skewed the information from every interpersonal communication. We have as a relationship. In So, I think that we need to look at how we couple in relationship where the professionally or instantly and see how that plays out and I, think the guilt and the shame play into that and it's a part of. How we communicate Inter personally professionals and with patients so. I think it's a beautiful thing for us to differentiate between guilt and shame and understand that. You don't. You don't have to be responsible for other people's thoughts about you, but you do have to be responsible for your thoughts about yourself and we'll come back. Yeah, absolutely. That's the only I talk about in my talks. There's two things that you control once your spirit control right. You only have your controls you. What goes what comes, animal comes out. It's it. Only little thing on this planet. We have control over. Everything else is a circle of control right like the locus like to. We have to understand that other people's emotions other people's information. That's them. In so hopefully engage in a way that allows that interaction to be peaceable to be safe, because the sooner safety safety is another big word. Safety's off the table. When you don't feel safe conversation then you get defensive. Right in you go into protective mode shirt said. Shot? You're not listening fending beer animal brain your in your lizard brain right. You're in your. You can't. You can't process so like understanding the human brain how it works in how? Like, most people engage with when it comes to topics that are really sensitive. You, Can't change a lot of thought or lot of. Belief! Right as outsider. Like I, always go back to a conversation. I was having with somebody that was in a family circle, not directly family, but close family, and they were very very opinionated views. And? I tried to knock him out. I try to knock out the views. I I tried to get him to like what the F. Thinking, and then that work. Because then they become more robust in their dissension in then. You then I went to a. you know what that's cool. You can be you. I'll be me and then. I went to a like. You know what that's awesome I I appreciate that you feel that way you know here's another. Here's the more information you may want to know about. In wasn't until at final like embrace of them as a person, but still offering them information that there was any kind of resolution. Like you have to, you have to like. It's civil. Has a long play, but also I think Lisa vanhoose does this beautifully she liked. On twitter you can follow her on twitter, but on in conversation she embraces the the most vehemently opposed person with love. She's just like. You know what she always gives. The benefit of the doubt I'm going to get pissed, but like she's like you know what I love that person, but see if I can just educate them around it and he's telling you. That's a skill totally it's. Very learned skill. But it's also shows shows the depth of love that she has for herself in the love in the. When. You Love Yourself, ultimately, you don't have a defensiveness. Make sense like you don't have any need. Don't have any bearing on somewhat when your self worth in your love for yourself has no bearing on someone. Else's acceptance of you, then you can communicate on a level and if we could teach that in. Kindergarten elementary school, we'd have a you know. We have a great society because I mean. That's the root of a lot of issues. Right is insecurity and when you're not trying to win conversation, which by the way I'm I'm not sure. I've ever won conversation in my life. That's not that's not a conversation. Is Conversation supposed a relationship of information between two people, or you can't win a relationship of information? A scoreboard! Win A conversation right, but we all like to feel safe sure. And Safety is the key to winning a conversation Ryan. You feel you've heard. You can take this, too personal or professional whenever you don't feel, heard and feel like you have a valid piece of information. You don't feel safe and you feel like one writer. challenge everybody listening to this in you have a conversation trying to just accept in love the person across from you and just say Okay I. Hear You. See what happens? At the defensiveness comes down. They feel safe. They, don't have to defend themselves anymore and then. Defend Yourself. You can then engage opportunity for someone to learn what you're actually trying to say. Kerry Packer Liana, chiming in. About being uncomfortable, really just say it's more important now than ever to be uncomfortable. That is worthy changes coming from. She says she loves. Michelle I reached out a while ago. We'll get. The, I have skied out of and saying it's very. This is very important for us to cover in their curricula best ways to approach it. Do you put this a lot of different places? I'm guessing? kind of salt all over. Yeah, so I you know doing my own. This guy in a lot of personal stuff from me, so I went hard and heavy through PT School. Right aggressive of progressive as say people fix people getting ready right in residency writing aboard writing fellowship like I just hammered down right like I didn't. Not until I burned out that I really realized a the the Path was not about other people. It's about me in like what I need. Filled in me in, so if you look at PT's as a whole. Were Very. Giving! altruistic. ALTRUISTIC I would call it a actively attached person from the attachment. Standpoint right and in relationship communication. In that we need to be. We need to move away from that right like this. Having people discover because most of the graduating now go. You know grade school straighter gambling. You can graduate PT Twenty one twenty two. Younger if they were aggressive and like. I said here's a forty four year old man saying that I had no idea who I was at the twenty one year old. And I can honestly say that and some kids. Some people have figured out some people who they are, but I think that early discovery an in self work may be a place in PT, curriculum. Right like we need to look at you know what type of family you had your family of origin. What does that look like? Like what does that mean to you because I've. As, someone who had this is going to get really personal as someone. Who had you know? Dad Who is bipolar passed away in a mom who was trying to help him right like I learned how to be a helper I learn how to be a fixer. I like that's how I show got my love in. That's all I. got you know my? Love for my family was like. Kind of shape shifting doing what needed to do to do that. And that bled into patient care. Right I'll do anything for a patient. You only show early. I'll show up early. Like it shows up differently in your job than a dozen relationship. Accents Yelm because you feel valued and the only way unless you understand no, wholeheartedly that you or your own value, someone else will prey on that value. Businesses like that was wrong, so be behind him I. WHO's it? Put like that. I think that's a big deal is because if you don't understand what motivates you, what makes you feel in keeps you safe? That internal love for yourself. That external looking for love manifest itself in doing whatever you need to do for your job without any sat within sacrificing yourself. Right. It's I think that there's a tremendous opportunity in PT School for self discovery for looking into who you are as an individual. What motivates you? Early on in the curriculum. It's scary because that's some deep stuff. And like no, that's that's not easy and you know I was working for. Doing it, and even I was finding some stuff out about myself, but I thought I had locked up. You know I was I'm good at this and I'm I'm good when there's a lot going on and all sudden. Gone. Why are these kids over here? You know getting all emotional I'm like I'm ten years older than I'm super emotional. Right now I. Don't know what's going on with me. So so, where would you recommend like this really is this. Is this bringing in a mental health component more into curriculum? You know in in that way. Would that be good example or one example of how to do it? I think honestly there. There's readings like there's books that give you basic information. Right like not every. PT's a psychology minor. Like. And so I think that there's information that can be given through readings about self discovery. Right I think that that's an easy thing to do and like blended into the part of the curriculum that looks at. I think it, it's university. Colorado we had some professional and self development courses I think that would be a really good place to put that and also offer mental health providers if they need it. Right like I, think that that. Means they we pay enough intuition that or there's also APPs, but I think there could be a great partnership where people have available. There's probably counselors on campuses right. That could be provided, but I think that there needs to be some type of introspective. Look at who you are as a person in where you come from in your development over time in order for you to understand yourself is who you're going to be as professional as a provider. Is, GONNA. Come out right like how do you? Might puppies bargainers. You. Might. Have to let them in, but it's. It's one of those things where if we if we understand who we are then we can not only treat patients better, but also. Keep ourselves safe when it comes to burn out like I think this is a fundamental burnout issue. Reid is not understanding who you are in your. Get you give yourself too much. We all have the ability. We all most PT's don't have any business background. Right in we all assume a certain. Pay Grade all of stuff like all the self worth or were scared to ask for a raise, because we don't have the high enough self worth. Like salary negotiation. Jer is is a big part of this right where you. If you don't feel comfortable, saying you know what this is. What I'm worth. This is the hour I'll put in this. Is that net? Income like. People. Some people have the. Self worth the say, they'd just say okay. Whatever you WanNa, give me. And then they go home and they feel. They feel slighted that it had been her. They're not respected. Them then it needs it them right then it spirals then then. As opposed to being there for the job and feeling valued like you have to feel financially valued in order for you, but people, but a lot of bts like okay, I don't ask for more. They're not hard. I was told I was told. Pay People enough. That money's off the table. Pay People enough and treat them well enough that like I. Just like you know what I don't even know I. Feel like I'm paid enough got it. Everything's taken care of I've loved era. I never WANNA leave. And those people will leave, and they will outperform for you left and right, but a lot of nickel and dime, but the reverses. Don't nickel and dime for ourselves right? Yeah, that's true as true. and honestly it's like when it comes in. You know it's interesting to think about scarcity mindset at this point in like what employers looking at and what other people are looking at like. You know if I pay that person one dollar more per hour. Like I. I won't make as much money. Like it's also looking at it kind of maybe asking pertinent questions to the employer about like what does it mean to you what what a raises look like what if finances look like? What is what is? Money looked like he was as as A. As an employer! Not really ask that. Question Like the scarcity or or a surplus mindset as an employer Ryan. I because of those were real. You're totally right you you need to. Employees need to be paid enough that they don't have to worry about paying bills. And, they'll outperform for you. They do that 'cause when they're not. A lot of this is about a lot of the stuff we've been talking about we started with. city planet and city, right imbedded racism and Segregate a of this is why it's based on fear, I needed to make your a certain part of the population couldn't overtake me. I built in these things that would make sure that that didn't happen and they're embedded in plain sight. In Law in in geography. And now we're saying also. Let's pay attention to the psychology of the individual coming in because that's going to keep going forward, but we pay attention to it. Well I mean I think that you can take that psychology implying on a lot of levels to PT, Andy Reid if you look at the population. In in your area, the population of therapist match it right. We you're saying. There were no clinics on the east side of Austin Texas right man. Those are I guess they don't need pt right. On the they actually considered I went to a city meeting. One of my colleagues. Merom is on. She's A. She's on the city on the public. Health Commission and they considered a healthcare desert. You can literally hit a Golf Ball Del Medical Center one of the premier medical centers in the country in on that side of the I thirty five. It's healthcare desert. So the fear the scarcity. Apply across all. Of everything. We've talked about right, so it's. It's not only the access to healthcare, but it's the diversity programs right? It's the diversity that we see as PT. practitioners are diversity as a profession doesn't match the diversity of the community. In a recent survey that it went backwards right and that's because PT isn't getting. Kids aren't being exposed pt because of systemic barriers children. Become a PT They went to PD or they knew. They saw school, and if you're not getting any of those three things, you ain't showing up. Totally and when P. are caught from budgets at at on on a fundamental level, or when a another program or family can't afford, a seventy dollars co pay to see a P. T. or if like in in Austin there's. There's map. It's the if medically assistance program. In Texas and around Austin they had a seven month. Wait physical therapy. Sky, had acute onset. I had a nonprofit with e side a Ymca on Austin For a while and like this one gentleman is like A. Seven month way to C. A. P. T. for Cuba back. Right, so there's not access to physical therapy for people on any realm that need it, and so they don't see it, so that's another way that systemically people aren't exposed to physical therapy. And so how can you WANNA? Be a PC. Ryan never and then, and then I mean you can talk to. So many people about the systemic. Application process and and loan approval process for PT School because we know that. One hundred and seventy thousand dollar loan for schools. Not Not everybody can qualify for that getting. On twitter looking at MED twitter as they call it. Hashtag twitter, saying like Hey, man, you're the this is going towards physicians, you know what like application fees and everything's gotta be an in person, interview Severe Nells, and you've got ten of these to maybe get into med school. How could afford to apply smartest? You know you'll have the best applicant, but you can't afford to get to the starting line there. You got no bike. You got no chance right right and I. I remember specifically interviewing for PT. Schools I flew I was in Colorado I haven't gotten into Colorado, but I flew to Atlanta. I flew to where else I go like three other places I flew to interview to to What's the just north of Chicago? Roslyn Franklin, so I flew to Chicago. Predator, you flew to Georgia you know like two. Grand whose evenly? Maybe. Hey I'M GONNA pay three grand so I can maybe pay one hundred fifty. Right. Who Can? For that lottery ticket right told. And not only that, but most PT new grads are not making one hundred fifty riot like who have kicker, no unfortunately skies. Yoda by the way. PDF. Focus on this. Because before we let the audience go, we have the power to we have the power to change them and by them. It's systemic barriers. Even if you think they exist. What can someone do today tomorrow this week? In their communities small steps that can lead a big steps that you would tell people to do pt specifically. I think. I think there's a few things one. He's just need to be Percy to wake up. And understand. That this is real. It's not your fault. That you're safe. Right like I think if you can. And then. You need to reach out to colleagues. Who may not look like you? And ask them if they're okay. And how can you help and let them know that they are safe? Right and then you can look at your community and ask what I can do, and if you are okay and let them know that they are say right like there's. It's a simple solution. You just have to take it from new in extrapolated more people. Like? And I was thinking about. On a walk this morning in the thinking about one of the biggest messages like what I'd want to send home for people today on this talking with you, it's really. I think that we all have. Power to change things. It's just how you do it in like if you make the choice to. Make, the change right like. It's diversify your applicant pool if you're hiring for PT position right. It's it's making sure that your forms at your clinic have all of the LGBTQ. Inclusion on your intake form right, it's it's about how you make sure that everyone is inclusive in your practice, and beyond that and so like that's. It's hard to say Jim. It's like it's one of those things where you you know how to change it, but telling someone how to do, it is really challenging. Right but I think the biggest things our. That you are not. You are not at fault. You're not to blame, but it is your responsibility to reach out and understand that you're part of the change. In terms of innovation. To quote this allows. You can't solve the problem with technology solution. You're not gonNA solve a people problem with legislative solutions right. This is this is a person promo warm, and it needs to be solved person to person to person to person to person to person to person right and in. person to person that gets bigger and bigger. And then you have to be the example you have to every engagement that you have has to be example you want to set in the world, because other people aren't going well, they may do, but they're gonNA learn from you. Right it's okay to understand. That other that other people you may not automatically have the most elegant eloquent solution for all of healthcare issues, but you can start with the problem that you see in front of you and the only thing you can control, and you mentioned that the only thing you control minimal comes out and what you do in your sphere, and and what you do with it whilst. Asia to look right into the camera mark. In the Cameron say hi. My name is Mark Milligan and you're listening to PT podcast. Hi My name is mark million and you're listening to P. T.. Pine cast. Yeah held it. That was very very good. Are you ready to play three questions? Sure! Those again I. Guess I'm going to find out what's to three questions right now it's. Are Three questions brought to you by our friends at Arias medical staffing. Jobs across the country. Yeah, People's ears. Perk up because we just graduated tax, you WANNA. Do what you've been studying for a long time. We want to do it where you WANNA. Do it in terms of geography. Setting patient. Aria says the the opportunities. You are US medical dot. com, see what opportunities though you can also travel with a travel buddy. Even other PT, friend nurse friend PTA they'll try to find contracts in same area so travel with a buddy. Buddy program. Dot Com as you are concerned, three questions first question where question where in the fifty states I mean you literally like I'm an escaped to Florida during Pandemic Smart Island in Florida, My Dad If you were to go anywhere in the US for three months, where would you want to go? At such a tough, quite uneasy. Because I, you know. I went to school Colorado so I love the mountains. Love the ocean, so it would to probably be Hawaii actually. Exactly I'm fear, second question is a what question. What something read watched downloaded so like book movie podcast that you think the audience can get is gets value from. Just. Read the alchemist. Okay I've heard of their. I don't know what's about. Though that's a great book, you should read it I will do that. It's on our list The Third question it's. It's got to begin and end with people. is about who who's the audience? WHO's some of the audience should know more about. Lisa, WHO's foreshore KAI? Kennedy Foreshore Meka. Shit. What's Nick's last name? Mitchell foreshore yawning our about most the next. Yeah, me, yeah, Meka. Next foreshore! And then I think more people should know about themselves who I like that that will lead us to our parting shot. That was very good. I like that ourselves Stewart art shot right now. Very intense. Very. Intense graphic parting shot brought to you by our friends of the Academy of Orthopedic. Physical. Therapy orthopedics dot. Org We're actually We're talking to Chris US tomorrow from the. T were dealer contest that got all these You know courses that you can take online to up your orthopedic game and we're going to give. We're going to give one of these away. 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Be Loving become. But also know that. Above all like love will solve things right if you truly love yourself if you truly love the person sitting in front of you if you think about who you want to engage with how you want to engage with the world, just choose love. Wow, you are like the PT Iota. I like that very much thoughtful. Mark. Let's let's do this again soon. have you back show. will get more key lime. beards Sydney in the system whatever those things are I like those. Key Billy. You Billy Appreciate you coming on here, appreciate you. Talk on on CSM about an important topic, but I think the most important thing is. We can't stop talking about it, you know it was something that you had had keyed on a lot of people at keyed on in terms of having having a conversation on a big stage like CSM can't take your foot off the gas pedal now, so Mark Bill. Thanks so much for coming onto the show. We'll talk again soon, okay? Love your PSA safe and take care love the PT. 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Clinical Podcast: Building Autonomous Clinicians | Dr. Andrew Bennett

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Clinical Podcast: Building Autonomous Clinicians | Dr. Andrew Bennett

"Welcome to the EIA clinical podcast your host Dr John Childs and Dr Shepherd we'll be bringing you interviews with cutting edge forward thinking physical therapy clinicians and leaders the goal to further your knowledge base and bridge the gap Oh you think about what a clinical development process looks like in helping a company achieved clinical excellence. Yeah that's a huge question child's and we are privileged to have a dear friend and colleague on the show today Dr Andrew Bennett and as a disclaimer of sorts Andrew tuned to go and spend my first four years as a clinician and a fairly large hospital surrounded by some incredibly well known names now I was oblivious you know that's ultimately maybe how you how you grow clinics but you've been super passionate throughout your career on all things clinical development encouraging mentorship clinical development you know there's a lot of attention of course in the outpatient industry on growing managers in the need to have folks that have a business mindset how to run a practice and and if you would talk just a little bit about the value proposition around you know why clinical development matters and then maybe talk some of the specifics in terms of how oh you've played over the years and continue to be a real advocate for proponent of and just facilitator of throughout the entire company is really all things a straight OUTTA PT school even prior to Pt School all things clinical placement internship residency to mentoring to board certification we're so I Finished physical therapy school and just about nineteen ninety nine went straight into the air force was on an ROTC scholarship and had the welcome to another edition of the EE. I M clinical podcast I'm joined today by my co host as usual Dr Mark Sheppard my name is John and I just go way way back in the world of physical therapy back from his days when we were both in the Air Force is active duty physical therapist and then partners in the early days Texas physical therapy specialists with really good friends and you're one of them well Andrew thanks for the for the background and introduction obviously one of the major roles I know is not a show in which I am an impartial and unbiased co host in so andrew it's really great to have you on the show and welcome to the clinical podcast as of Texas physical therapy special growing outpatient clinics in Texas and Andrew has just been a huge influence in my career so time and opportunity finished up air force time went into private practice for about a year in Louisiana and had the opportunity to come back to Texas and start thanks John It's good to be on chatting with friends again or Andrew before we get started it was just a little bit about your background as a PT and sort of how you is to them At the time but got got the share an office with you John and with Julia Whitman and Rob Wehner and gotta be invited happened as a result of being around thinking clinicians clinicians who recognized constantly that there's an opportunity to get better and I just finished up her fellowship and wanted to just help me get better and so she and I arranged to see patients together for about a year those things go work and help Tim Flynn at the time over at the Baylor schoolhouse and really just these were the people that my job site I just didn't know who they were in the world so it was a really a fortuitous St I remember Rob Wehner coming in couple of mornings before clinic and just getting filled greements green book out on the table and he when I would read the the drive to get better gets stronger when you're able to help somebody else get better so I think there's a bit of a a selfish it can just going back to what we just talked about and my time the Air Force I was just in the right place at the right time with the right people and didn't know it sure of the words and look at the pictures and try to figure it out and just just kind of slug it out together and then I remember similar experience with Julie Whitman I need good therapists to do good work and a need good therapist to be able to produce appropriately well in a clinic and I think Gordon Part of just that synergy between it so you know so yeah we've been around it for a long time I some of it comes out of need as you mentioned I I am a clinical operator and you take clinical operations finances metrics and you failed to combine them with evidence based been in my own desire to be involved in mentoring because I keep learning much by being around others who are also learners I just think that's a practice in meaningful changes in patients sometimes which end up with is a product that you're not as proud of on the reverse side of that if all you ever do is his mentor and Clinic try to be clinically excellent you know I think you end up becoming what some might call a wasteful spender right you can get really really really good got plugged into all things starting a practice and then we'll dive into some more specifics related to current role with both text bts incongruent health assure down that very very very last little thing but could you have stopped at about seventy five or eighty percent of that effort and got about ninety five ninety nine percent of the outcome I think part of my been around clinical mentorship as a company has been trying to marry those two up you know how do we take clinical excellence how do we take board certification chip can occur within the organization from any role whether that's a CI got a student it's a residency mentor urge hospital systems that may be associated with the PT school you have those pathways but often times I feel like in your private practice setting there's all ship tracks how do we take that training in myriad up to clinicians who are autonomous in thinking and able to really run their own practice inside of the company many organizations you're right it's you as a therapist and if you're going to get promoted the net means you move into management I'm a big believer that leader director or a clinical supervisor there some folks who just want to be in the clinic they won a mentor they WANNA teach they want to do research and oftentimes at large you know not the right word but it it just it put me out on the right track and this conversation resonates with me because not everybody wants to be a clinical so much of a clear pathway obviously with with the work you've been involved in there is somewhat of that that clear pathway so for you Andrew at least for from the text p. t. s. standpoint what are your thoughts on the components that come into a program that drives someone to be not just a good it's it's a staff clinician for lack of a better term who just is really good in clinic in his able to seek out some niche levels of practice it's a fellow who's Nicole supervisor but someone who wants to go teach even if it is outside of your own private practice Sir do research even if it is outside of your day to day operations I think you're hitting on a key point here in that is the recognition that these pathways they can exist if you create them residency maybe they'll go through some of the product and of course works around the manual therapy certification report certification those have been very helpful and getting people there some us and I think Andrew that you know obviously I'm bias have gone through residency fellowship training and it's it's been just to say career changing is off with clinicians who want to be leaders in whatever role that they happen to fall in in our organization there is a pathway so whether you coming from PT school very arduous process and very few people are able to to take that on just given the number of life demands that that comes with but fellowship is often offers from managerial standpoint clinical metrics finances that type of thing so that's one pathway that's pretty clear another is individual ship you know and obviously that's a I think the recognition of hey this is the first step we want you to be a specialist we want you to be very good at your area and for a lot of people they they'll go through beginning to explore is the idea of the clinical mentor where there is some support and knowledge then it begins to break apart into different paths you mentioned the clinical manager like there are some people who really enjoy leading and developing a folks you know maybe they've been out long enough that they need the just in preparation and do some of the course background work and then sit for the test but the point is we we really don't look for helping promote and develop the clinical excellence culture within the company and obviously within your local clinic as well a third pathway typically is more of what you might consider a niche practice practitioner right so maybe maybe you're an orthopedic Certified Board Specialists Right in the beginning or you've prep she worked somewhere else and you've you've found your way to a clinic the entry point is how do we get you to board that's a recognized by our profession as a specialty you'd have to correct on the numbers but I think the last numbers I saw were less than five percent of the PT's in the nation have that have that credential certification right with that sports women's health or or geriatrics orthopedics the key is to get you to the board certification because partly because one where then at the end of your fellowship in through your fellowship you're involved in teaching other residents and leading the clinical excellence round that we host every month and you're responsible for from eight to five percent or something like that and so in in it's an established product I mean it's a hard test and to have that means you do have something special and so I but you really want to dive into breast cancer or you want to dive into public health or you want to dive into some of the pain science components right three you know therapists talking about well why would I want to become board certified my employer you know you don't get a pay raise necessarily when you get board certified so talk a little bit raining the rest or it's a clinic manager and I do think you have to separate that not every clinician wants to be a manager but I certainly want us around cheol practice involved in developing a clinical mentor who then can be the person or persons involved in supporting those those are the things that you're like man that person has value because again it's not the letters it's not the output it's the product it's the might that advance my future earnings opportunity down the road I'm GonNa answer that kind of Tangentially I don't think it's wise the courses like the drain Ealing coursework the paint science coursework or even some of the AST William type coursework those are all options a fourth one that were look at the next step until folks hit that first one fella that's something we value vacations important after board certification is your ways to do it then going through board certification and fellowship there are lots of other clinic pathways out there you can you can do that but Andrew you know we've touched on a little bit about board certification and you know the role that that plays in the clinical development process you hear a lot of times in the industry industry maybe that's not a common practice for that therapist who let's say may work in an in a setting where that's not the case why would I be interested in getting board-certified in letters that were that were rewarding you for it's what it represents it's the year and a half of you took everything you had and you tried to make this is where a clinical excellence meets operations if that clinical person can take that skill set and know their own lost visit rate all those are sort of a sub specialty and you continue to refine and develop based on on what your abilities are in you know that comes along

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Dancing with the Stars and Physical Therapys Role on the Show

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Dancing with the Stars and Physical Therapys Role on the Show

"The move forward radio is brought to you by choose. PTA Dot Com the official Consumer Sumer Information website of the American Physical Therapy Association. Find a physical therapist near you at choose. PT Dot Com Welcome to move forward radio. I'm Eric Reese since two thousand five. America has been enthralled by dancing with the stars the popular TV show pairs professional title dancers with celebrities. Who may have little or no ballroom? Dancing experience and whose ages and fitness levels vary widely shaping amateurs into viable contenders for the famed mirror. Ball trophy is an easy backstage glimpses at the stars. Frustrations and injuries attest to that. But the knowledge and skills of those both in front of the cameras and behind the scenes go along way toward preparing the celebrities for their close ups minimizing the risk for injury and treating their aches and pains along the way vouch. Murkowski has been very much in front of the cameras since joining dancing with the stars in twenty eleven on the heels of story dancing career that includes many. US ballroom titles in two World Championships in this episode he shares everything from the story of his dancing routes to the keys to proper preparation and the reasons he thinks everyone everyone should dance. He also described what he calls his superpower genome and Chela has worked mostly behind the scenes as the fiscal therapist dancing with the stars since two thousand thirteen eighteen. She talks with us about the challenges and keys to keeping. Every dancer is safe in limber as possible while noting that highly individualized care is something every physical therapist schooled and trained to provide gene also discusses using the shows high profile to generate awareness of. What physical therapy really is? And she encourages everybody to optimize demise their movement with the help of a p t what makes dancing with the stars so popular and why do valid genus so value their involvement with the show. They talk about that too. Here's our conversation so let's start by introducing both of you to our listeners. Although I hope you want my my not gina that that's als probably just a little bit better known than you are to To the people who listen to this Are Listening to this podcast. Given the fact that he's been seen by millions of viewers every week on the TV but just just a little bit perhaps so so ovau. I wanted to start with you. You you were born in Ukraine and your family moved to the United States in Nineteen ninety-four You earned fourteen. US National Latin ballroom championship title. Champion titles and and you'd also won two world championships before you ever join dancing with the stars so I wanted to start off just by asking you. Where did your love of dance dance? Come From and how far back does it go full first of all. Thank you for having me. So you know. He's Gina is incredibly famous from where I'm around wherever ARAGO. Everyone talked about g all the time. So yeah I grew up competing in ballroom dancing. I think that's really important. To know is my relationship with dances because always been of athletes to his craft. And I don't you know I'm sure a lot of athletes Look at their sport as as a creative source for their reflection as well so it's not just athletics and creativity are they can coincide and so for me you know dancing was first I sport. That's how I fell in love. I fell in love with that idea that I challenge my body I could I could you know grow and I could. You know compete. I think competition was a big part of my relationship with dance until later on in my life where I actually appreciated the artistry Later on in my life when I started teaching and You know teaching adults honestly until dancing with the stars. Dancing with the stars changed my relationship with and from the sense that I really appreciated the Creativity that that was behind non just lettuce as a matter of fact a lot of times you have you have to compromise it. Let us says I'm on there some of the stars because because you're working with you know regular people yes celebrities but ultimately a lot of times physically. Just you know regular regular folks you know. That's why genus such a pivotal. The middle part of our show is that Dan is a combination of lettuces and creativity. How young were you when you started dancing and did it have to do with With to your brother Maxwell Oh of course is also on the show and it has been on the show and and much pre debut on the show as a matter of fact it had to do a lot with him. Oh Yeah my brother and I are very close close. It doesn't look like it but she's six years older than me did he. Say It doesn't look like it what you says. It doesn't look like it. I say it doesn't doesn't sound like it. He definitely has been. I don't know there's an older sibling is better than he has been to me. You know and I'm very. I'm grateful that him and I got to grow up together. Yes he paved the way for me in a lot of ways and I probably would not have danced if it wasn't for him. My parents signed him up when he was five one still in the in the Ukraine and they signed him up as part of an after school activity that towards young boys etiquette and chivalry the boys and girls and Part of that curriculum was a little more on dancing and the teacher who taught the ballroom class. There is a lot of potential and told my parents they should sign up for this and they did an pretty much the rest of history for him when we moved to America. No they've found dance classes from Max you know. Time is limited resources are limited. So obviously you know. They're kind of like what he's going to dance. We don't have a babysitter for you. Obviously we both at work go. Go go to dance with him and I was like I and then you know. I've already saw him do it. I excelled. She taught me everything. You know. The reason why I was able to really accelerate in the in the beginning parts of my career was because I had a free teacher coach more than Ah Brother Bill is obvious. Unconditional love but also a passion. That very rare. You know he'd put into me. And so I was able to excel in the beginning of that probably also fed the fire that I had to continue to do it. So yeah I I am where I am in an enormous part of that is to my brother. And that's that's pretty rare to between brothers to to that extent I mean are you do you. Do you feel like you're both conscious of how rare that is. Yeah I I think I think we're both very You know sometimes we everybody kind of live gets the best of them and and you know that perspective gets lost but we you remind ourselves of that always and obviously that's a reflection of the career choices that we we've made you know he was a he. He is a superstar in his own right for a long time before entering the team. You know and so I had to work really hard to get his level when it comes to Hollywood And the show and and then when we you know he didn't have to wait around and And and I mean I say that loosely. No one was waiting around but you know right right now. We have we tour together. You know we we two fifty city American tours will tour together. We have an incredible dance video together together. Though you know there were partners and the form of dance with me which fifteen locations countrywide you know. It's a business that promotes dance and health breath and not just physical health but the the mental and emotional value that Dan's brings a person's life how to balance that out on help people you know Oh from that and this is something we do together and you know in personal like his pain is my pain right. I mean we're on you know I. I am my brother's keeper. And so you know it's a beautiful thing to be able to do what I love but to also do it alongside someone that I love so dearly and respect. It's really really great and and I'm GonNa ask you more about a dance with me later on but but but first of all Gina. I wanted to ask Wanted to talk a little bit about you. You've been a licensed physical therapist since two thousand four and became a board certified orthopedic specialist in Two Thousand Ten. You've taught as an adjunct professor you've served as a certified clinical instructor to fiscal Therapist student interns earns. You've worked with a wide variety of patients from pediatric to geriatric but presumably you didn't graduate from. PT School with the goal of becoming the PT to an array of professional dancers and and celebrity non dancers on prime time TV show. So so how was it that you do. You got your start kind of work. Yeah well that's that that is true. I did not have any idea that I would be here. fifteen years ago And to your point I did. I treated a lot of wide variety of patients All the way from little kids too. I think my oldest was one hundred hundred one something like that. So I've seen almost everybody uh-huh and right before I came onto the stars I was working A lot with Some professional athletes With The Los Angeles Kings Hockey team here and uh-huh players in the cage which is a Russian Hockey League And I had a colleague who I will give a shout out to and hopefully she'll listen to this podcast when it airs Cynthia reader who is a great and if anyone is in the Chicago area then they should go see syntax. She's fabulous but since he was working with the production of Skating with the stars and dancing with the stars and she came to me and asked me if I would help her out if ever she needed it for coverage and you know anything like that and of course I agreed and and the time came where she needed my help and I covered for her and long story short. I basically took over for Cynthia in two thousand thirteen is when I joined the show and I think that was season season sixteen. I WANNA say and at that time. It was just a few hours on Monday. which is our show day? You know I came in for. I think a few hours Monday mornings and then they came to me and said Oh. Can you stay a little longer. Oh can you stay through the show and you stay after the show. Can you come down rehearsal days. Can you come during the week and you can call during the week so it has progressed us from a few hours on Mondays all the way to. I won't say completely fulltime but it is a large majority of of the weeks when the season is going and Now it's season twenty eight. So what does that. I've been looking for twelve seasons and it kind of opened up avenue to this to this niche that I found in the performing forming arts. And it's parlayed itself into me working on A lot of other productions locally here in Los Angeles and on the tourists that are associated. It was answering with the stars and Maxwell's tours. Hey it's hard cities every tonight. I mean again a lot of these actually that we get to enjoy our our sustained because of Gina. There's a lot of pain. It's really hard when you're in pain. So they make it look they make it look credibly easy and I know for a fact act firsthand but it is not easy for them and so I saw a need and I kind of created this little niche for at least myself. I don't don't really know a lot of other teas that do what I do at the moment. But but yeah like I said I was working with professional athletes before and I really enjoy it and the answers are professional athletes and their lettuce. ISM is is incredible. The things that they can put their bodies through the things that they endure putting their bodies through is is a lot. And and it's mindblowing. Time because I know personally I could never do half of the things I do. Well let me ask you another question. Do you dance. I danced a little a bit when I was younger. Yes but nothing to drew level of of what. I'm working with now for sure but I have. I have some experience in a variety of different sports and dance was a little bit of it for sure but never to this level. Well The foul I understand that gene has has worked with you on on various things over the years hamstring hamstring pulls lower back strain shoulder tendinitis just to name a few things. You alluded to this earlier but can you talk a little bit about the physical demands on you as an athlete and a professional dancer and the types of things you do to prepare. Protect yourself your body as best you can. There's a lot. There's I mean it's a full body workout. Every single time and there's a lot of listing as well because his partner work some of how it relates to the body I can sense pain and census comfort and and like I said at this point when I can kind of diagnose it because I have a great teacher. You know doesn't just take care of it there but they don't just take care someone they always try to teach you along the way where you you can do to prevent us injury so in that sense yes I'm very well versed but again it's I I need someone like gene to go through to tell me. Hey you know you need. It's a stretch this muscle to be able to release the payment attention this one but you know I try to stretch and try to say I can even well non-performing performing when I'm not dancing playing basketball. I'm working out. I'm running so just keep an active body and in terms of recovery. I try my best to foods. Do this stretches and madman thing and the heating and you know the things that I guess. So that I've been taught now to do to be able to keep my body of depart art excelling new reform well Gina Vow alluded earlier to the fact And of course everybody who's ever watched the show hostess. I mean there. There's a wide variety of of ability levels on the show you've professional dancers. You have celebrities who may have danced some. You have celebrities who have never danced. You have celebrities from various Arias walks of life and in various reasons that they're famous many of which have nothing to do with fitness. So talk a little bit about how you negotiate all that and how you look out for and provide provide physical therapy to such a vast array of people and Guard against the issues that they all might Entail during the course of the season is that you know in in physical therapy school and even out in the workforce ones. We're finally out working. We're trained to treat a variety of different types of bodies and backgrounds inabilities. And everything else. So I would say that I kind of look to my education and my training to be able to assess where somebody is where they're coming from what they need and and kind of go from there I think the challenge lies in the fact that the environment is not a typical clinic or hospital setting that people probably think of when when they think of physical therapy and therefore. I don't have an hour with my patient when they come in to see me to assess and treat and do all all the things that I typically typically would have the luxury of doing and the clinic Sometimes at the most I have twenty minutes and so that's kind of where the challenge lies is to be able to assess the background and the physical ability that someone's coming to me with the problem that they're having and to be able to treat it efficiently and and effectively because the on that we're trained to make a difference and I think that somewhere along the line. PT School one of my professors taught us. You need to make a difference. We need to make a change. No matter what's going on. You need to make a change in their symptoms and that has stuck with me for my whole career and making that change and improving proving someone symptoms when they come to me when they only have twenty minutes or however long it might be. Maybe it's you know give or take but Is really important not only to get them back out to rehearsal or to the show to alive shoot of XYZ but it also helps develop a report with me and allows them to trust me so they know that they can come to me when they have an injury when they have a problem when they have a concern and that able to treat it because the show is is very busy. They're getting pulled and all these different directions as the celebrities or even as a professional dancers and they need to be able to have someone that they trust. That's GonNa make a difference but they can you can see that's associated with this show And that that will definitely be able to help them compete and kind of go through that journey with them to your point despite the different backgrounds that people have I draw a lot on my education and my training in my experience with all the different patients that I've seen to lend itself to being able to you. See All these different types of people and and all the different types of issues that they're coming to me with in a short time because collectively different in each of those little allotments of time Jeanette is. There's some kind of baseline physical instruction that basically everybody who's who comes on on the show gets is is there. Is there some. What I'm saying is is there some kind of like standard Instruction that everybody gets to make sure that everybody is sort of taking the same precautions in his sort of on the same page. You know I'd love to say yes that it's this uniform instruction across the board but it typically is not involved l.. Might be able to answer this because he might have a different experience with that. It's not it's it comes individually from me when people it's not you know a global I mean it's it's paraphrase now from us right but but individually you know I mean obviously okay. I understand now they experienced in my own non just my own experience but also experience on the show and other celebrity partners. I see what kind kind of you know. Physical Strain and challenges. They go through an evolution as well. Their bodies changing rapidly. And so you know the fact did the take care of their bodies outside of just the five hours we we interact themselves. You know I try to encourage I got had you know episode bath. I try to you know like Costa warm ups almost every rehearsal unfortunately a lot of times under so much stress and and like time crunch data lines that we don't even have we gotta teach them a routine and a couple of hours the last thing we want alligators and other twenty minutes to on like a stretch. A warm-up sorry Gina Point but you know they understand for so that we understand the importance of that and we try to communicate that to talk to. I'm GonNa again just like Garcia genus. Celebrity vary embody types and eighty. She had abilities and the kind of lifestyle that was was. Oh you know live and so yeah. It's not not all rules. Apply to all so to speak it. Oh yeah that's kind of make your approach to them Dan ultimately it's up to them to execute as well. You know someone. These are adults. You're not telling kids. How would they need to do it? You're suggesting things to adults to make them successful whether you're taking those suggestions not sure I've I was GONNA say earlier. You know gene and his job. I'm so I present you know. I'm very very strenuous coach. I like my relationship with dance a lot of their words. They don't WanNA flooding approach so I really challenged my partner no matter what as there to really push this themselves physically unfortunately that after two months later on in the season It's almost like on the dot right. It's like semi finals around semifinals finals. There's like a rib this comfort Because of you know right I could tell you better diagnosis on what that is comforted. Then there you know what are some of the partner you know. I even this season you know had Christie. Brinkley fell and broke her arm on like the most most innocent of scenario. Obviously that was an irregular thing. But do you not a lot of things and would the beautiful thing his for a long time and this and this shit. It's more about suppressing the pain rather than getting rid of the reason. Why the pain is there in the first place? Because it's Hollywood. You know it's showtime. Oh time get it. You know it's kind of like a pro athletes to in the heat of the game you gotTa do deliver and then you put your health decides to do so and You you know it's good though we have someone on said there's going to be the voice of reason that and kind of over Libya situation and say hey this is not worth it or these are the consequences are look get out. It's interesting you say that I was just thinking while you were saying that a gene. You know you're a physical therapist and I imagine there must be times when you realize that the show must go on and all that. But you're thinking like Oh you know from my where my physical therapy hat I would. I would like things to be maybe run a little bit differently or or or what have you do. Do you have those moments from time to time from time to time for sure. I think there's only been a couple of times. I think maybe even just one time in my run with the show that somebody's definitely had to withdraw because of my suggestion. There's obviously you know vowed just mentioned Christie Brinkley. Broker broker writer. She obviously withdrew right in her own volition. Not Because of me. There's definitely things that are dealbreakers that I if I was approached. What about them? I would have said No. You can't do that. But for the most part I would say I do my best to keep people in it as much as I can and if I can't I don't think it's the best idea I will give my opinion. And then it's up to their discretion to make that choice. It's very rare that when somebody comes that far even if it's just a couple of weeks it's very rare that any celebrity contestants say Okay I. I don't WanNa do this anymore. Because that's how much they are on their own or if that's how infectious this show is to them. Think like oh I've got you know I want. I want to be part of this and I want to do this. I can't say that we've had many people that have withdrawn because they've decided it's just not worth it so then it's my job to make sure that it stays worth it. And then they can do it as best as they can safely as they can without injuring themselves anymore. And I think we've done a pretty decent job of that definitely. I'm sure that there are things that people deal with after show is over and you know they kind of limp home and say okay. Thank God that's over. Now I can you know tend to my wounds kind of thing For the most part people have people stayed all in one piece Well I mean again. This is a pretty big deal and once once somebody said you know I'm going to be on dancing with the stars. I think the last thing they probably want to do is only be there for a week or two. The heavy people say. Hey where where are you going to be on dancing with the stars and I missed it. Yeah exactly a quick break to encourage you to move physical activity that is associated with a reduced risk of chronic disease not to mention improve bone health cognitive function way control and overall quality of life simply simply put more movement is the gateway to better health need some help too. Going physical therapists are movement. Experts use exercise hands on care and patient education to help you meet your goals. You can contact. PT Directly for an evaluation learn more and find a physical therapist near you at choose PTA IT DOT COM so The Valet said earlier that I wanted to ask you about your your dance company You're a partner In in in dance with me with your brother Max. And with other champion being in celebrity dancers and you your motto. I think it says on your website. Something about Teaching dance to everyone from beginning beginners to overachievers. And there's also a statement on the website that says it's not just about learning two dances about feeling healthier and happier while expressing yourself and being part of an incredible community so How can you talk to me a little bit about sort of what? The philosophy and goals behind a dance with our philosophy is simple in terms comes in our whole goal to make people feel better and they feel happier. Dan just happens to be the vehicle allows pursued that we'd teach multiple our services private so we also by the dance or less than two people you know have got caught up. Whether they're they got caught up in their life or their careers and this is another way for them to engage physically and also have fun doing it you know not everybody wants to go to the gym and run or workout. This is incredible workout while having a blast and loving movement and dance and sends music. You know obviously I seen the the transformation that it offers to people on our show and You know the one thing that we get over time it was like what are you gonNa have. Dancing scarves was regular people. Well nationally means a place where regular people can come in and have a dancing with the stars like moment and when I say that you know you get into dance education to getting that personal I tell all my My partner is on the show like you you have my undivided on just undivided attention and effort. Like this will be the best two months ago right. You know whether that becomes the truth or not the benchmark that I'm trying to push for And again in the process if the dance education of course but it's the human interaction you know. We were Seoul connected to a phone so disconnected physically Emotional that it can have to just dance even even forward to two hours hours a week or one hour a week once a week or less and views. You seem to have an amazing rest of the week And it's just an incredible condition to the recipe of happiness. A lot of people I have to. I have to ask you while we're on the phone. I'm I'm hearing a dog in the background. Do you dance with your dog ever do that to my dog. Actually even my daughter now my little my little league. Yeah he was on tour with us as well. Yeah so Gene I I wanted to ask you about that. You know you've gone with Max and And Val on tour and From what you said. You've you've done other touring types events. What challenges does being in different venues and and different circumstances present to you as a physical therapist working with working with people when they're on tour tourists just a whole other world whole other lifestyle and in your day to day is weird For lack of a better word. It's not a bad thing groundhog's day runoff very different city basically It's very what you love. It is and the in that sense. It's it's all all I can. It's all I do my what I what I do is all I do while. I'm not make sense. Just like ballots. All he does for that you know two months three months whatever it is is is what he does and what he loves. And so it's a very Concentrated physical therapy experience. I guess because that's all we're doing for the most part and it's challenging in the venues just for logistics reasons face for time for supplies by travel level with all the supplies that I can possibly travel and over the years. Those have exploded. I used to have like one little suitcase. And now I have this huge road case. Go on tour and Sometimes it's down to the nitty gritty. And I have to get really creative about treatments or what. I'm using for treatments or anything. That happens happens during the show. I'm not the first line of defense if anything happens during the performances on stage so sometimes I get really creative and it. It makes it very interesting but we also do a nightly one on tour which we do about thirty to forty five minutes before the show every single night. I'm for all of them to go and participate in it and I think it's done a lot for preventing injuries and the best a little put the cast on page. I mean it's again it's a team. It's the same team philosophy that that is so apparent in in sports that you've seen force in thing any cast on the more together. We are the more physically ready. We are a lot of times. We don't WanNa do that. But it sets push showtime to come out with an energy rather than build energies on the show. We already prepared and ready to go on. It's honestly the best shape I get into on just because of the show but because of but because every day with Gina working out stretching and prep it goes a combination of performing every night but also the working out and the you know the stretching. It's kind of a force ideal situation relation because they can't you know they're kind of a captive audience shaw and every single day especially during like a winter tour probably snowing Outside and you've never been to the city before what are you GonNa do. Well you're stuck with me So that's kind of what we were talking about. How it's so focused and all you're doing dancing all? I'm doing a physical therapy. I wanted to go back to one thing you had said earlier Jeannie we're talking about needing to get creative. Can you give me an example like the ways in which you might need to improvise sort of along the way I mean for example With the show with a television show a lot of the times I have to do taping a different body parts and sometimes it doesn't always work because they don't want us to show on camera and their costumes particularly the girls costumes. Although sometimes the meant it doesn't lend itself to a nice perfect perfect taping. I would normally do so. I have to get creative and figure out a different way to have the same effect with less paper tape in a different in spot or some other type of you know medium to us. Same thing for tour Although there's a little bit more leeway with using that kind of stuff on the tour but also also just the on tour the supplies I have are not As plentiful because they have to be mobile you know they have something I could carry very to and from each venue so sometimes I have to get interesting with you. Know any kind of modality that I'm using modality meaning like an ice or heat or laser technique occur electric stimulation. There's different kinds of things that we use them. Physical therapy and and sometimes they're not always transportable on the road So that's what I mean about in created. Sometimes you have to figure out a different way to have the same effect with something that you'd normally use you talked earlier about about taping and the fact that you can't necessarily keep those this body areas because they might show on camera or what have you. What do you do in a circumstance like that? I mean how do you get around that Sometimes you sometimes I just have to. who has some body makeup? Can you come over here right. Sometimes though I do have to Try to address the different areas so it depends on the kind of tape I use. Also you know. A lot of people think paid just just to wrap something tightly restricted. Sometimes I use a different kind of tape that allows for movement and it actually helps certain muscles move so sometimes I will take muscles. That'll move differently and help the injured muscle but it isn't visible. If that makes sense so I can tape something on the opposite side of the body that I know is going to help the injured area but it won't be shown different things like that. Sometimes I turn down so that the tape isn't showing simply like just the line in the sand or sometimes I tape it in a different way where I know. It's going to help a certain part of the injury injury feel better and we just have to work to be honest sometimes it looks that asks on. TV really hard core. Ah Yeah I got tape on track because the using them. Now I get that Valid what to ask you about something something else you know we. We've been talking about the the show in particular killer and also your other dance activities but you're also known for your work with with children with special needs and also for your philanthropic work so I wanted to ask you a little bit about those two things about The work that you do with children with special needs and also your philanthropy you. Can you can talk about that. Yeah I I don't know I'm very grateful. He told the officer that I have. And when I dream about you know becoming famous the same but for me fame unless you A are making making a living off of it or be Using the platform to make beautiful you know better change in the world. Make the world a better place Then it's a nuisance and then credible the comfort of your life You know so for me now that I have never really expect it to be honest. Dancing was never gonNA be my gateway to Hollywood like no one in a million years competing in ballroom dancing that was going to be a reality show. there's GonNa put good born dancing and millions of living rooms around the world you know so now the die is on me and I never expected it whenever alright dreamed about this moment. If it would ever happen I would happen all I could think about. was you know. Besides by my Mama House was to be involved with my community and to be a voice of change and then voice father voice of like someone trying to if to raise money. I think the fact that I have the ability to reach thousands of people To raise funds for great. 'cause there's like a superpower Power though I'm so grateful that I have that's like that's the bird that makes me grateful. That'd be not in the fact that I used to think go shirt on the wall. Also like that's not necessarily the poor guy you know I'm I'm grateful for. I'm proud of the fact that I get some bar neuro. Wouldn't charity like pencils of promise. You know and help raise funds to build a two schools in Ghana Help build the schooling Guatemala. You Know Oh self-sustaining schools that don't just build a building but no they get in the community. They made their infrastructure not just in the physical which goes along way but also in actual hiring of teachers vetting insures creating a local present? No and given kidding remote places go and never have access to education and therefore never have a chance to compete promoted to get pizza live in. Today's it is world without education. You'RE NOT GONNA NOT GONNA be able to accomplish anything. I'm a dancer. Yes but I had occasion Bill you know no one knew that that was gonna be a dance. It's still got a chance to be educated and that made me a better Danforth who you're going to be honest so anyway. Education is huge for me especially With kids at least giving people a chance because it's a boring world if it's the same people giving the same chance but I mean my so. That's Ah that's a huge thing for me and then in terms of again back to chance but beyond you know there are a lot of kids that unfortunately dealing with disabilities or Lord unfortunate circumstances in terms of health. You know. I'm so grateful. I couldn't have anything if I didn't have how you know. Survive with chance to you know so help. Put a smile on on someone going through a hard time That's another superpower. I mean my God. What a privilege right but I have the power? The first time I I went to La Children's hospital like man. I was nervous because what if I came in and they'd be like who's this guy. I expected someone. Cooler like us So the fact that I have kids and families like you excited to see me. Yeah man and all I gotTa do is allocate Tainos. I know see I mean what a privilege you know. It's an honor but it's also responsibility so you know it's a responsibility that I think is is a very beautiful thing you know. There's yeah that's how I feel about it no no I'm not affiliated with you know any particular charity for the charities already that like I said I mentioned I've worked with. I thought you know kind of I wish I had time and the resources to literally changed you know as far as I could see I wanna change go live and all that and the show has allowed me to see further than I ever imagined Gina. One of the things that vow was just talking about was like using using using his celebrity essentially as a as a platform. I'm just wondering if Through your your various activities that you feel like you have maybe a little bit of a different platform that you might have otherwise to kind of inform people about physical therapy and what physical therapists do definitely. I mean I mean. I don't have celebrity per se but probably more have this podcast. This podcast. That is But no it's it's interesting to point that out because it is very important to me and it actually has been something that has just very recently becomes more of a project for me is really shedding some light on physical therapist and what we do. Because I think it's very rare unless you are a physical therapist or have had physical therapy at some point in your life that you know what physical therapy is and even then sometimes I don't know that people understand it There are such a wide range of what PT. He's do and so many different niches and and so many different avenues that as a professional you can specialize in And and at the very least my involvement was dancing with the stars the very sparks interest. If I'm talking to somebody and they ask what I do and I tell them and they go. Oh that's so interesting interesting and then I kind of just one on one. Educate you know this is what I do and this is what I do for them and this physical therapist so at the very release it does that and also just involving myself with the show Has Given me some camera times very very rarely like love that necessarily but it has given me. You know some time on camera that I can showcase or sometimes the the people that I treat will put me on their social media or take a picture and say getting physical therapy with gene you know cetera lends itself to just opening that door And right now I'm really trying to create more of that exposure But it's a little bit difficult because pty she's were limited or as any medical professional. We're limited by privacy laws and and other issues of of showing patients or offering you know advice that people may take and misuse. And then you've got a problem on your hands. So there is a little bit of a limitation there but I definitely I am working on that because I think it's important. Not only for me as a professional because I take pride in what I do. I want people to truly understand what I do. But on a grander scale. I think that the public needs to know what we do because they need to know. Oh I could get physical therapy. I could use physical therapy for this. They can benefit from Benefit from understanding what it is exactly that our job is so. That's my new mission trying to trying to shed some light on our profession something to do in your spare time. Sometimes you have so much of exactly exactly but I mean thanks for this podcast and for the work that you guys do on choose. PTA DOT COM. Because it's just that it's an avenue to educate people about what it is exactly likely that we do. It's a little bit of you know an insult when people say oh. You're a physical therapist. I need a massage. Gosh and And I I've gone from resenting that a little bit too realizing well you know what it's my responsibility to educate and make it known but this is exactly what we do and it's it's not just being a glorified is servicing and. I'm not no disrespect to massage there. 'cause they do enjoy but but they're are different roles but they're different roles to be honest with you. I doubt anybody would wanNA massage from me because I yeah it's pretty good. She's pretty good for an amateur relies. Law doesn't last long but yeah so my last question. I wanted to ask this to both of you. I mean As as we were recording. This as we're doing this podcast When people hear this podcast season twenty eight of dancing with the stars? We'll be over but as we're recording it. We're coming up on the last episode. So I'm not GonNa ask you to speculate on what will happen or anything on that episode. But what I did want to ask is both of you. Why do you think the show is is so popular? Why do you think it's as popular as it is? And why do people keep tuning in. What what what? What makes it special to both of you? And what what do you feel about your your participation and why is your participation in it specialty. You kind of make the closing remarks on that but for me I'm just I'm just thrilled to be part of something that's involved in entertainment that's I've never ever come across anybody that said. Oh dancing with the stars. I hate that show. It's never met with anything like that. It's always oh I love that show. And if they haven't watched it they say oh you know my parents that show my daughter loves that. Show whatever It's it's one of the very few things that we can see in the media these days. That's positive that's uplifting heartwarming. You know nate you name any positive emotion and I think it it exudes that And it's it's lets people see Vulnerable side of celebrity that they might not have otherwise known. It's going through. You know a variety of problems or a journey and It's it really pulled up at the human spirit and Not only just because of exactly what they're doing starting at one level and taking this journey and hopefully having a victory at the end end but they've all got a backdoor they all have something that's going on in their life at same time whereas let them to that point and people get to share in it and people we'll get to take a positive message from it and I don't think you could say that about too many other shows That can can have millions of different diverse American across the country with these different beliefs. And all these different backgrounds. Sit Down on a Monday night for a couple of hours and really feel good about anything for like Whoa. And it's sort of inherently hopeful to isn't it it's like a youtube can be a ballroom dancer exactly exactly and I'm living proof of that But that's how that's how I feel. What about the show? And that's why I really enjoyed being part of it and any little bit that I do that helps do that. I take a lot of pride in. I mean the dancer as a performer. Former grade human. You Know I. I've been blessed in my life to kind of always make a living doing what I love but has it always been on the show and you know there's a necessarily mean that the rest of my life would be on the show but I am so proud to be on the show and and you know as long as they keep asking me to come back. I will be a part of the show regardless of what I have going on elsewhere Because it's again it's the very rare thing to be part of a project performer. That is so joyous and so kind to everyone involved. I mean again. It's competition honestly. Sometimes things are gonNA happen. Where feeling hurt but everyone is part of something that is ultimately respectful gracious courteous beautiful? You know dancing. General Mama. Big Preacher of the power of Ban Aboard in in particular you know bringing people together support one. Another build combating together and showcase their journey together and Ah doing so in this beautiful creative environment I think is really really special and I think that's why people continue to gravitate to our show for so long. Now it's become tradition as a family tradition to come together Monday night and and watch it as a family and create kind of a national camaraderie in a sense as as Gina was alluding to. Yeah yeah some some ways do yeah so it. It creates a place for people to come together that honestly otherwise would have never been in the same room You would have and the world would have missed out on. I'm opportunity to celebrate them in a different light In a life that had essentially created a completely different narrative for them. You know so it's again. I'm I'm really proud to be part of dancing with the stars. I'm proud that I'm a dancer and I'm proud that I get to. You know to teach them and help and promote dance students stars well vow Gina. Thank you so much for your time and thanks for joining us on. Move Forward Radio. We've we've really appreciated You're sharing your experiences with us. Thank you my pleasure and thank you for listening to move for. Radio insight from our guests is for informational purposes only and should not be used as a substitute for individual treatment by medical professional. Subscribe on Apple. podcast Google podcast or spotify or find previous episodes choose dot com the official consumer information website of the American physical therapy of find a physical therapist near you cashews. P._T. DOT COM.

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Bringing Blockchain to the Education World with  Lev Gonick, the CIO of Arizona State University, and Adam Caplan, the SVP, Emerging Technology at Salesforce

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Bringing Blockchain to the Education World with Lev Gonick, the CIO of Arizona State University, and Adam Caplan, the SVP, Emerging Technology at Salesforce

"Blockchain is a technology that can change the way people work how supply chains run and has learned in this episode of it visionaries how students can take control of their education. We talked to love. Go Nick and Adam Kaplan the CEO of Arizona State University and the S&P of emerging technology at salesforce respectively about how the two organizations have joined together to bring blockchain into the world of education in enjoyed this episode. It visionaries is created by the team at Michigan Dot Org and brought to you by the salesforce salesforce customer three sixty platform. This episode is part of a special series on the sales customer three sixty platform the platform that powers the world's number one. CRM In this series executives from salesforce will discuss how using ten innovative technologies including a blockchain and automation can help you drive the digital transformation of every every experience and get you closer to your customers welcome to another episode of it visionaries. I mean vase on Chief. Content officer here at Michigan Dot Org and we have in remote locations spread all over the United States live. Adam what's going on. Hey ingrates inactive excited about this love. Thank you so much time excited to do this with you. Know likewise I'm guessing today I'm GonNa much happier place in terms of a beautiful weather than you are out of just thinking. Yeah that is probably too cold but sunny in Chicago so not too bad. We're GONNA get into a little bit about both of your backgrounds We're GONNA talk a bunch of blockchain and some really cool applications But before we get into any of that let's start with you you. How did you get interested in technology in the voice? I'll I came up actually interesting enough as a sort of old fashioned university professor And I ended up taking a A Sabbatical which is one of those privileges of being a university professor way back in the fall of nineteen ninety three and it turns out. I had a lot of time on my hands during that sabbatical which is what everybody thinks. Professors do namely just sort of sitting thing and that's all the fall of nineteen ninety three was when the Mosaic Browser got introduced the world and that changed my life And after the fall of nineteen ninety-three I never went back to being the old Professor I completely engaged with how the this new technology could actually transform the learning environment and as a lifelong educator That's the journey been on ever since and flash forward to today what what is the scope of responsibilities as CEO at Asu Asu Is the largest public university in the country. We have over one hundred twenty thousand students Including fifty thousand were learning online and we also have the distinction of being recognized as the most innovative university in the land by US News and World Report and my responsibilities basically are into responsibility for strategy and vision for Rit efforts right through all of the operational responsibilities security and working on next generation activities which were adamant I connected. Yeah and we're going to get into to some of the really cool innovations that you've worked on at Asu because There are some cutting edge stuff that you all have been working on at the university for for a long time So new in fact that many companies are not even trying Inn's little teaser Adam how did you get started in technology. Sure I really wanted to be an entrepreneur and and start a business so coming out of business school in Chicago. I was looking for opportunities to do so. And I ended up working for a chocolate company which actually is unreal? Well home. It was a great company is still a great company. I would remain in company for one summer consulting and then I came across sales forest. Chris and I saw the opportunity to start a consulting firm rounded help companies implement the technology successfully. That's really how I got in the Dick -nology game not surly for technology sake but I saw opportunity Arner with this very young very exciting technology company out West and then we were able to grow sales. I screw and obviously you got much steeper in psychology when when apple team out with the iphone that really transformed our company went all in and then we became sort of the mobile go-to for building cool business applications and I really launched our company and so fly forward to today what does the S.. Vp of emerging technologies salesforce to sure right now laser focused on blockchain. So I know obviously talk a lot about that today but but it's a big initiative for the company and really exciting and our customers are are you know really wanted me as an exciting things with it. So That's definitely my folks say is is is launching a blockchain product or salesforce. Yes so let's start into the journey of blockchain This is something that obviously you know. Everyone has been buzzing about four few years It's kind of coming into like the business case for the first time People we're trying to figure out how to do that. Why did you think that this was something that you wanted to do at? Asu well actually started with a problem statement which I I think? All the podcast listeners will probably relate to when you think about the role of universities in our our society I think over the hundreds of of years. We've kind of earned the trust that we are a ticket to opportunity to jobs to learning discovery and That idea of how to take our well earned trust quotient and figure out how to extend it further her and to scale it further. That trust element. Got Me To be thinking about how important it is to reduce the friction and the way the Education and workforce development ecosystem works. You know there are all products of like the nineteenth century way of organizing things and we've just been through the better part of one hundred years of evolution and we really haven't changed the way organizations work so it really for me start at around trust. It's also kind of Bien. Where where Adam and salesforce that I got to gather was really around the natural interest in leveraging our core brands around trust and as you relatively quickly we got to the white boarding the idea of how to take some of our really important business challenges that are out there in education and began schematically Working With Adam and the team on how we could use your her interest in the inner trust cloud for for for mutual interest. And I'll be happy to share some of those important use cases but it. It does start the idea that whatever. Our futures are in this country our competitiveness Our health and wellness decor of it really comes down to our lady to educate and not only educate the traditional university student but on a lifelong basis and that is Issues Ambition That's our commitment commitment and We found a partner in salesforce atoms. So when I came to I know you've known each other for a little bit but There was this something that you all were already thinking about already. Working on something you saw as a logical extension For someone like a issues already. salesforce customer Moore who already has done innovations in the past and is looking at ways to to develop trust and to to serve students better. Yeah absolutely that emission really came from our CEO. He sort of realized wait. A second salesforce is great at democratizing technology. Making technology easy to use and started gave our team the mission to go figure out. How can we help me make this successful for our customers? How many of them? Some leverage blockchain technologies but now without going signed on to the infrastructure layer having out. Get Man Line without having stand up huge. It teams so we started talking to customers and had the opportunity -tunities Mute Levin Asu. And they were just so innovative in the way they were thinking about future of education game about watching we found so many parallels in terms of how to work together and when it came down to I think and obviously none of this is easy but was hey can we strip away. Let's forget all the the the crazy technical terms around blockchain. Forget all the hype Tim we really find value for students universities and make it real and not just sit in sort of a it centric POC world of testing and sort of tinkering and actually ild something something real value for the world. And that's been really I think where we've had this great partnership with Lebanon's team Berry sort of equal minds on sort of those those topics in if I could just jump in to add that I think we also resonated because we're all very much aware that is important as organizations are there's more and more ability for individuals for the individual learner whether at school or at a workplace and constantly constantly needing to work on professional development that that we also need to find a technical solution to put the learner at the center and in some blaze take on a fairly provocative idea at least in higher education which was the dissenter. The Authority of the institution. It's it will remain hugely the important but to really begin to think about it. Technology solution that allows learners to have the autonomy to share with us at a university or with an employer or with a community organization or business the evidence of their learning. And if you think about it when you graduated from college what are the a university tell the world about you your major and maybe your GPA. And that's all and that is such a discounting of the entire journey of being at a university and we were trying to find an authentic way to use the trust that we'd earned the find a way to put learners at the center and I think that's the journey that we're on and I think that's in part what excites not only us here at. Asu and the higher education community but as we share the work. We're doing together with sales worth I think. It is immediately immediately possible for audiences. Broadly speaking to understand the value proposition of what we're really doing. which is transforming who owns learning at the answer to who owns learning is? It's actually the learner her or himself. Yeah I recently had by fiance go through a plane to PT School and she had gone to three community colleges and then went to Undergrad. You know kind of bouncing taking different classes down in Soco and wouldn't you know it. It came back that one of the one of the schools said that she had never taken whatever introduction to anatomy and the reason why was because one of the community colleges it was called foundations of anatomy and so the system. They had the technology that they were using. Didn't understand the difference between those two things even though there are an entry level class. Is this like the type of thing that you could use blockchain chain to verify what these type of schools are so that there's less confusion when you're doing things trying to show a classes you've taken the answers absolutely absolutely and and and your little anecdote here is unfortunately not an exception. Fifty percent of the courses that people try to transfer between we need to actually disappear they become invisible to the transferring institution across the nation. That is a huge waste of human human talent and treasury and a lot of it is because our systems. Don't talk to each other and we call this in our world articulation agreements. It may not surprise you that most of this is done with spreadsheets. In the old days I would have said with an abacus. I mean it's it's really really arcane and one of the things that we are very much working on at through the blockchain effort here is the facilitate inter organizational capacity to support successful learning and that means reducing the friction. And making sure that when Arizona State University is able to to reach a integrated articulation agreement with the Community College or another State University system others can take advantage of that and not have to reinvent all all of that work themselves. Because we're building a trust the learner network together and again all of that then is about the network effect and not just the point. The point of the institution. The Touche's dance transact. Yeah I mean I think that to the original point which was like. Let's work our way backwards from the problem and I think a lot of times you see see kind of people trying to figure out the technology before they kind of figure out the problem is like hey we're gonna use you know because we need to use it because it's a Buzzword origines blockchain because we don't want to get left behind But it really seems like this was something that was so crystal clear to you as a technologist but like a broader trend about like higher education in general. which is that every student is now you know they have multiple devices? They have all these technologies that they use personally and interconnection between all of these disparate. Organizations is a huge pain point for the person as they're graduating but it's not necessarily a pain point when they're going into school right. It's kind of like this post education thing. Do you kind of see that. Asu Continues Beyond graduation that you want it to be more or part of their life so that they can leverage all the things that they learned Kinda throughout their career absolutely in Asu. We've actually got a framing of that which we call the universal learner because we believe it's not only after college. It's also the experience before you get to university. That's hugely important. And and again we're working with a number of organizations I together including the girl scouts of America because they do badging And they're not the only was but you know they produce evidence of learning outcome and that shouldn't simply be something Hangs in the closet or in a photo You know our goal is to be able to find ways for those who are looking to build a portfolio of what learning takes place before one gets to university You know through high school you know to be able to create evidence of that and then of course into the workplace and of course it's not linear either it also means that Over one's sounds life One is constantly in a opportunity to continue to learn. We see that being another really important part of the of the goal of building. I'm not a lifelong learning framework. That is agile that supports you. Described it the reality that there is not one single a focus point for we're learning takes place It happens in lots of different ways and we have to find a trustworthy environment. That's verifiable and immutable that in fact when an organization indicates that the learning objective has been realized there's a way of actually creating a watermark experience the transfers transfers with the learner And that we can Through our trust relationship with that Educational Provider Organization Have confidence that in fact that is authentic antic work that has been produced it allows us to assess the enganed Miami. Just add one other little short point here you know in America Today Over thirty eight million people have. I started college but not finish. That's a huge issue again. How are we? Are we helping those people who started get back into Luke pathways to a college degree and beyond and again. I think it's part of the objective. Working together with salesforce is to help solve for that. Not only in terms of the programs but reducing the friction that allows people who when lives takes over not to have to forgo their dreams But the find a way AH help them accelerate the opportunities to come back to college. Yeah I mean so. We recently had on the Dash Lane Emmanuel. And we're talking about this idea that like password. Security is something that can come from the enterprise and trickled down because people don't necessarily have the the means to figure out how to you know do the type of password security on their own and at the end of the day. It's a threat for You you know for enterprise companies or any company and I kind of look like blockchain little same but similar but different where it's like everyone has access to the blockchain chain. But you don't necessarily know how you would do that And then as an enterprise you kind of have this situation where he had. This is buy versus build dilemma too. I WANNA build a team to support this Levin curious like when you were talking to Adam and you're saying like hey we're starting to we. We know that that we want to build a this system of trust we know what we know we want an immutable record. We know that we we know the blockchain is the answer to this. What was the process that you were going going through your mind to figure out? Do we do this whole thing in house. Do we find the right partner to do this. Like what were those or those kind of conversations like one one of the things that we learned A while ago sales for us is taking the complexity out of the DEV environment providing us Essentially essentially with a platform without needing to worry about the code That was that was essentially what I hoped the truth. I didn't know you know that Adam was leading work within salesforce before I posed the question. You know that we've been exploring today and you know we. We got to Adam because as it turns out that was work as you described it that was going on. CEO Level of the Organization for us it was you know. Can we find technology partner who will find underway to take the complexity out of the Developments part of the stack. And who can help think together with us on really hard problems like identity identity. You mentioned that just in the lead into this question identities complicated when you're actually traversing between personal identity and organizational identity in multiple organizational relationships and and no one has solved this one. But we're putting down that if anyone can help us think this reu you know it's going to be the organization like salesforce. which will you know has consistently stayed with standards and in many ways to help us at broadly in higher education? Use those standards unders to help solve some of these really nasty and import questions. And so Adam I I'd imagine that when you are working on all of this stuff behind the scenes and trying to come up with that clarity of use case that problem that you don't necessarily know exactly what it's going GonNa be. What what the company is GonNa come to you with or the organization is GONNA come to you with But you're working on you know on the platform and how you could do you know low code blockchain things like this like I'd imagine. This is just music. Deers like this is such a big problem. It's such an important problem at such a perfect problem for blockchain to solve I'm curious like was this something that as soon as you know lead brought it to you and you kind of just like the lights were on immediately. And you're like this is this is blockchain chain. You know this is our solution Potentially to be able to work in perfect harmony yeah that that's that's really point. Actually so we knew we could launch orange blockchain platform. We go to our customers and say customers choose blockchain technology. It's easy to use consuming as you'd like to consume that. But you know there was so much hype bike. We were talking about. Companies don't know what to do with it so it's like you say it's about finding the real use case and it's about finding customers who aren't just doing something for a press release. I literally spoke to. I would say over one hundred customers and other customers as we were sort of deciding what to build and how to build this many of them they were they were in that mode of. Hey we just want some amazing press around this and then when we found love and Asu and started talking about this a real initia- real business impact is not about a press release. This is about really changing the feature of any education I was like wow and that's where you know that's where we believe. salesforce has to be yes. We have if antastic watching platform and yes customer news. How you'd like to use it but like you said it's finding meaning those use cases those whether it's by industry whether it's by vertical whether whatever it might be but something very specific that customers customers can get their arms around and run with and understand how this can benefit their organization that that issues? And that's what we really been working so credentialing even broader. You're it we think about it in other places also really valuable so we'll work with issue. That's been amazing. Any of you extend that to other industries are also parallels we've seen some interest even as an example for a nonprofit organization once someone goes through. Let's say a big granting organization that's going to give a nonprofit a lot of money and and they go through and they say hey you know validated this is a fantastic profit. The dollars actually end up where they should end up their honorable. They're doing fantastic. Work is worthy of your time of your dollars when someone goes through invalidates might not make that almost like a credential publicly available so others don't have to go through that the same process we also see it applying to other than other industries so it's a really powerful you stays in a seo has taken the lead and run with this in an amazing a badge note the rollout of customer three sixty platform The idea of viewing your customer with that three three hundred sixty degree view. I feel like blockchain is the perfect kind of You know piece of this that like I feel like we all you know feel like we know our customers pretty well and you know. They're when they're using our technology or whatever it is her buying our products and we have a pretty good idea but something like botching the fact that it is immutable the fact that it it brings in a layer trust. It really feels like you know to me in this topic topic of identity that we've touched on a little bit that with with blockchain. Were now going to have much more power as as technology leaders as CEOS house to really see. What's going on to see both your own internal employees in your customers? I'm curious in those conversations Adam as you're talking to other. CEO's as you're we're talking to technology leaders. I know that there's a lot of excitement around blockchain and kind of a lot of confusion What are some of those other kind of hesitancy to use it? What are some of the reasons that people are kind of You know not really seeing the value here when it kind of seems like we. We all know that you know ten years from down the line. It's going to be important. But maybe they say hey over the next three years blockchain's not gonna be a priority because we're just gonNA kick the CAN. Yeah sure so. Bill where we're really investing in seeing opportunity in demand from our customers in permission blockchain will we mean by that is it's not completely publicly available not anyone can just access the blockchain Siada dated because when we're talking about the enterprise company data is critical. So that's where there were playing so it's not an open it. therion is a network of companies that were enabling to come together and share information between them or like ASPCA share information between institutions. Also extend that be to see to the end customer to the student which we love your point about customer three sixty were all about enabling you you company institution to get closer to your end customers and so that network effect we feel is really really powerful so one of the big hesitancy to companies in his willingness to participate network with their suppliers vendors and customers partners is sort of they fear asserted. This data will be out there in the wild and so we say hey. Wait a SEC. No no we actually can control who has access to the data and this is one of the really innovative thank salesforce as working working on which is is not just private in this network of companies but it can be opened up this data that data this object that object it can be opened up permanently late to an individual to another company it can be opened up just for a certain amount of time and so that is really powerful and that that gets say sort of relax lacks okay okay okay. Data secure passed it and can only be shared where we wanted to share. I think that's a big thing that sort of you know getting people to to slow roll roll adoption. I think the second thing is incentives so watching is not just about the technology. Let's say we saw the technology and we still have all these challenges of like like you and we're talking about identity and some of the really complex things anytime you're building. Networks and companies are coming together. This is not natural competitors working together the other suppliers and benders working together and it sort of an equal relationship not one dominant sort of dictating however also play into network. So you get to things that are non technical uncall- so you get to governance. WHO has a right to add other network so if at eleven Arizona State or when a partner with other institutions who says Oh that the other university yeah let's let them network or that other up is going to you know have course gonNA consume some of this education? Let's let them into the network so you could say it's all all open but the governance around adding that additional company or security rules or even in a network where there's payments happening between parties. WHO GETS paid eight? How do they get paid to play? Who pays the blockchain who pays for this network that all gets really complicated? And it's non technical helping companies with those things also really really important and also slows adoption because companies have to come together. Really think about this stuff. Do you feel like Your peers and other. CEO's does technology leaders are have some reservations about this and might And might be on the fence about about using blockchain and like why that might be you know an education You know our community of CIO's Are you know as a breed of surely curious about Oh to new technologies and I think you know as a community of practice drawn to education because it's a it wonderful opportunity privilege in many ways to to try and even to fail without the consequences that are important to CEO's in a corporate setting I workout. You're can come at a significant price. Personal ad the organizational and so again I think as I've been sharing the work that we're doing and and actually just a couple of weeks ago we were in Chicago. I the big higher education gathering. And you know we had a standing room only audience. There was a huge huge amount of interest in actually tackling questions like many. Did Adam actually just outlined related to governance and distracts me that I you know. It's such a more interesting problem to solve for and figuring out how to use blockchain supply chain. I'm not saying that's not important. There's not a lot of money to be had there. But the the problem Problem of figuring out how to build out a trusted learner network that involves and supports the privacy that we know You know students have an untitled into rights you under federal law figuring out how they give permission to which organization other individuals for objects in their learning portfolio. How we actually at facilitate overall learner's success rather than barriers to transfer as we talked about earlier in time together other those are things that CIO's and higher education seems to be really interested in and we've made a commitment that here it is to actually get a whole bunch of us together and I don't mean and just the is but also the Department of Education and some important fellow travelers in the corporate world and we of course that includes salesforce to come together to start? Aren't really working on on the network piece of it. Now that we have a series of proof points some of which now we're actually moving into production as soon as general availability or or. The cloud is made known to the public and my favorite my favorite military military commander General Availability Service. It's joke Yeah I you know we. We've actually had an episode on On blockchain for for supply chain and It's quite literally in the name. It's a chain. So what's funny I think is. We've gotten so good at supply chain in and now it's like you know. Obviously it's the next it's A. It's an obvious use case. It's it's the next step for for supply chain to be able to track skews across different from companies and all that stuff is fascinating episode But I'd agree with you that you take something like education where it's so critical and so obvious and to the to the student. They are just perplexed. Like I can tell you you know from the first hand experience of my fiance taking you know whatever testing out of English in high school and then having a PT school be like hey you never took English in college and it's it's like how could you not know that you're like isn't this all connected like how would you not know that those individual things that happened to the student. It's your life and it prevents prevents you from doing from point at Grad School from getting a job from showing a certification It prevents all sorts of things from happening quite literally early due to a technical error. You know these are a lot of times human beings you know that are sitting in front of a computer trying to amazing work. That don't know that you know. Introduction to psychology is the same as foundations of psychology I'm curious love when you're talking about you know down to the individual student. Is this something thing that they're gonNA see. Are They GonNa know that that you have you know blockchain technology that is supporting them in these efforts or is this something that You you know the world goes on and nobody knows nobody is is the wiser although maybe a little bit just from you know it's the normal can like the Internet working. Yeah I mean the the answer is absolutely an. I'll just reflect them. Something shared earlier. Our whole goal is to put the learner at the center of everything. So let me give you a real quick quick use case a lot of students in the country of begin their higher education journey in the community college and the vast majority of them actually aspire to coming coming to universities and many many. Don't finish their two year a degree before the actually apply to a university and then they get to a University of Arizona State University the city and along the journey without knowing Because actually we don't know what they took really before we're not really watching wants them to what they took before they got here and the community college pretty much goodbye when they actually get admitted to. ASU But using the blockchain And with permission of the Learner we can keep deep a sharing of the ledger of the courses that students taking she's year at Asu and actually get her two year degree while she's on the journey here at the issue and whether she finishes issue or actually you know unfortunately perhaps doesn't finish. She's got a credential she. Can you know she exit higher education with an and hopefully it inspires her because she actually does get an a degree while she's here at the finish for your degree And again the the Learner's perspective I really don't think we're ever going to call you know. Watch the magic of blockchain and action working for you It's going to actually part of our engagement work. We have a very successful and Dan Mobile APP environment and for for learners. They're gonNA see a view to what they're taking what the prerequisites are what they've accomplished. What again? What opportunities there are for a job after they take a set of of courses are actually hopefully Through better Machine learning actually be able to provide a tuning Of the course of courses that they need to be taking to be successful in the workplace overtime as we get the workforce community engaged in this the distributed ledger infrastructure and so You know again. Our objective is really a very much but the learner In control scenario that you outlined. It's a huge disservice. That higher education has a Sedgley inflicted upon you know twenty first century learners because we haven't figured out how to get The systems system's modernized and democratized as it has so much in our consumer life and again that's why we're motivated and inspired by the prospect of with salesforce or something so I don't know what's next for the future of blockchain at salesforce in an actually did WANNA touch mobile really quick as well so Mobile and blockchain. Because I think you know obviously all of these are interconnected and And the fact that you know the that AI and mobile and blockchain and all these things can. Tom Can work together. I know on the salesforce. Form is is really exciting. But it it accentuates You know what you can do from watching perspective when you have these other ways to You know to build Shirley Lebas saying I think the the end customer they may not know what watch chain truly is. It ended the day. They might know word. Maybe not but like laboratory focused on the end customer being in the center of this universe. Focus on that and one of the really interesting the use cases that our customers have been really driving towards is something we call ethical sourcing so ethical sourcing is when I buy a cotton shirt shirt. You know where did the did the cotton come from. Do they come from a place with you. Know Terrible Labor Practices Child Child Labor all mostly light light conditions which are out there in in certain countries or something called as Becky cotton which is cotton from a terrible place in terms of labor practices or come from unethical supply. Chain when I'm buying shoes or other garments it were they made from plastic recycled from the ocean or did they come from just typical local manufacturing processes So this is becoming really important for our customers and one of the things we hear is oh well do consumers care about this. Do they care about this by chain. And what we're finding in interviews we're doing with them. The focus groups is is absolutely new. Care They want to know that the products they're buying our from trusted at the go places and it's not service if you're buying. Organic food is not just a picture of happy farmer. It's hey was that farmer paid eight a fair wage or the or the products were they given the right seed were a allowed to roam free. You know all these conditions not just ella came from certain place become really important and so I think that's an area that we're really pushing in because our customers are bringing us there and we. We believe me. Help solve this nine. Eleven supply chain side and tracking so the lineage like we were talking about classic blockchain but also the connection to the customer. Then it ain't bringing those together that's where we salesforce added. Real differentiation is linking the end customer. We're all the way back through In terms of mobility in a some of the things we're seeing that are exciting. Will one thing if you think about reading networks together together and you think about you know training data whether it's robotics a gathering of data to really make sure they I is unbiased is intelligent If you're gathering data from multiple institutions are more sources watching it can be fantastic for the verification of that data to to make sure it's real data not fraudulent at new submitting it so I think it really interesting area to enable groups and organizations or university either institutions to put together gather data data broader sat donate will better training of Ai Link Powerful and then another thing we're seeing around ethical supply chain from ability perspective is actually elite working with satellite companies. And saying hey you can take pictures of farms of the rainforests of fields. What's happening? How did we know? These images are real so much has happened around fake news. Fake imagery Can we stamp and validate that. These pictures are real so when somebody posts something or are you read something New York Times or another institution. Oh Yeah I know that story is real. I think that's a really powerful teacher. Blockchain as well on the test and they may not know as blockchain technology sitting behind it so somehow it how to communicate through a petition stamp or trust score or logo that because meaningful that that he asked this is truly something real really. Yeah I think of it like the Like the consumer going from httpd ATP s like all of us as consumers mercer like man securities. Were in good shape. It's got that ass on there That was all it took to convince all of us that everything was secure right which is this May or may not be a good thing but but yeah it's the same sort of thing where you have a you have a layer of technology that is sometimes you know Transparent it but sometimes it's just a little a little muddled and I love those use cases we The complexity of like sourcing being able to verify things like that as we said at the top like this is all about trust and the great thing is that like we have a trust problem in society as as you know we always have in society is not like a new thing. Whatever anyone's like Oh we have a trophy yet we always have? It's you know from the days that you could. You know anyone could print a newspaper newspaper and disseminate it. You have a trust problem And I think that solutions like blockchain allow us to be more trusted and for businesses to have more for transparency with. Who they're doing business with and that's that's exciting for US emission and it's exciting to hear for for technologists to be able to have more fidelity on that you know just sort of share that as Adam was sharing You know one of the big challenges for all universities is to be thinking not only about our learners but also the fact that were you know we are cities sometimes nested within bigger cities and You know as technology evolves also this is about creating a relationship between our community and the city and the here at Asu As Adam knows you know we're also trying to think of the situation nation where you know over time while as important as it is for a sees blockchain support learner to learner environments or institutions institution. There's a whole nother another realm which is you know when machines and instruments of radios In a smart city are developed to support a more convenient convenient A better quality of life in in the city of making sure that we are capable of using the trust fabric to make sure sure of that We don't turn our cities with these technology into surveillance societies. But rather around. which which you know we can we develop trust fabrics? I think is going to be hugely important again. I'd see that as another monster challenge out there And as long as as we can make progress together in these big soup challenge areas around education or or or sort of as Adema subscribing end to end verification along along the supply chain. I think you know we're positioning ourselves to really answer the important questions of the twenty first century. which again is an educator? You know I'm I'm really happy. That it We have the technology partner. Who's speaking of big and ambitious late and innovative? Play as we are. We gotta have yes back just to smart cities as episode Because we've We love that stuff and it's just always so fascinating to think about you know the blending of the physical digital world and how we can How we can enhance those relationships? I'm sure is really guess. I'm just saying if we're good for it right Adam ring yes absolutely in. It's marcy scenario area where eleven. Am a really done. Some amazing work and partnering with them on that initiative would be amazing will be amazing and these are like this is not easy. Stop right like lettuce talking about trust as relates to facial recognition Russian and how blockchain can be a piece of that. You know who exactly knows longer term But these are big questions and in a require a lot of innovative they can so certainly exciting to work without a doubt all right. Let's get into the lightning round. These questions are fast and easy just like working on the salesforce customer three sixty platform the number one cloud platform for digital transformation of every experience. I know you both know well but you know we gotta make sure that the people do you can go to salesforce dot com slash platform to learn more so exciting to do lightning round questions with both of you. Are you ready on your mark. Absolutely go work number one song love. What apple on? Your phone is the most fun. I think it's still to this day with my kids. I would have to go with instagram. Instagram I follow a bunch of restaurants. I love to cook and I love looking at that stuff. Oh hold on hold I got I got to change my the Vino. Adam knows. I'm a wine. SNOB GOTTA go right. Yes that is true. One of the big. Forget my kids. It's all about wine fair enough. I've align with allow okay favorite bottle under twenty dollars. I'M GONNA throw out a great New Arizona. Wine producer called ruin. Are you an E and James Callaghan has a whole bunch. NJIT great old world wines that are GSM for around that price point. And I just have more so that I just is blocked from him today. It actually came in the in the mail I got by ups while we were here. And that's a that's also a great price performance of yeah I would go I'M GONNA go. It's called bring it. which is just really cool? Branding a really great organic wines out of Oregon and bring it as one of blinds and it's just awesome at not expensive and Scott that organic song. That is a super appealing. How about favorite teacher? Sure that you've ever had in your life. They're great Mrs Smith. It's all because of her. She was a great great teacher. Who Pretty much took me under her wing and and Told told me go. Don't let them tell you can't do it. Data I would say more Michael so I went to do a Jewish school through eighth grade and Morris Teacher we call them where Michael My my science teacher and just really you blew our minds with his passion and I remember when the shuttle exploded. We were with him in class and it was just obviously obviously such a profound moment in all of our allies and to share that with him years perspective and be a part of that was just so heartbreaking but also to to have him there with us in his point of view learn so much about it also really liked affected. Last question live best advice for first time. CIO strive to thrive with ambiguity. She's you must add though in chamber those great Adam. Best Advice Vice. I I don't know how many of these are there out there. But as VP of emerging technology. Best Advice I would say Focus on like labs said at the beginning. Are we really solving a problem that matters and are we really delivering doing business. Impact or are we just tinkering. I think in the world of emerging technologies. There is A. There's often an appetite to drive towards hype back and sort of fooling around with staff and it's like Nano now. This is not technology for technology's sake. Are we solving real palm. Are we bringing something of value. How you to our customers? Are we doing something. Amazing will dry impact. I would say. Don't get trapped in that in that tinkering world and focus on on real problems that we console. This has been awesome. Thanks so much for coming on will definitely need to bring you back for for wine talk and then maybe we'll do some some smart cities live any final thoughts. Now thanks Adam the San Francisco. Yeah we'll see both the dream force awesome guy so much I really appreciate it but lineup ticket by it. 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How Creating Videos Helped Her Patients with Dr. Leslie Waltke

PT Pintcast - Physical Therapy

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How Creating Videos Helped Her Patients with Dr. Leslie Waltke

"Hey before we get started did want to say thanks to our friends at our es medical staffing. The leaders in travel physical therapy for supporting the show for so long. Here's the thing they're easy to talk about. Because at the root of everything are is they wanna find physical therapists and physical therapist assistants jobs. That's it doing what they want. which is being great therapists where they WANNA? Do it in all fifty states and see it all settings, so take a look at what they have to offer. Offer right now, a U. R., e., US, medical dot com, just take a peek and ask. It's no obligation. Right you're not. You're not locked in or anything, so don't don't think like that. You are E. Westmedical Dot, com. We trust them. You should too with your career. Take a look at where it can take you a US medical dot com. Go there. A U. R. E. MEDICAL DOT COM. Followed online at PT podcast and subscribe on I tunes, spotify or Google on casts. Absolutely. Yeah, it's it's awesome. Happy Hour and we are live good to see you. Those of you watching on facebook or on twitter, good to get to be heard. From those of you listening on the podcast, we appreciate you. PODCAST podcast that saves physical therapists for missing out on amazing insight, remarkable ideas and motivational stories in the world of physical therapy I'm. Your host tonight. Great Show for you tonight. That we bring back Dr. Leslie Waukegan back on the show before bring in. Dr Walkie WanNa make sure you don't forget. Subscribe to the podcast I tuned spotify Google podcasts amongst others, and we're now video casting as mentioned dropping everything on Youtube facebook and twitter, all at pt pine cast on the Social if you have any questions during the show or after the show. Make sure you head over to our social networks. That's where you can drop a question recumbent in that comment section and we'll either get to it live. If we can or if you're watching the replay, we'll make sure we can try to get the answer for you as well so wanna be very very interactive, so let's also here. Let's also hear where you're from. From so drop a comment. Where yet where you're watching from where you're listening, we like to hear where you guys are are actually taking part in the show I? WanNa make you feel like you're. You're here at happy hour with us all right? Let's let's get to the main event here. Guest tonight is known as the arm, whisper the explainer in chief and vitamin L. Some killer nicknames. Her down to Earth style here were combined with decades of clinical cancer. We have experienced have made the world better for tens of thousands of cancer patients survivors here in the US and across the globe. Let's bring in our guest. Today Dr Leslie Walkie back to the show. WHAT'S UP TIM here? Fight. Vitamin L. that's a great nickname. Isn't that great? One of my patients actually gave that to me. Is. Just kinda stuck in and now I actually use that as a motivational series for a group of my triathlete, cancer survivors little motivational series. They're coming in for a little vitamin L. that's cool I like that a lot. Often in previous episodes and will will link to some of your previous episodes. in on the on the podcast in the show notes so people can take a listen to that but but for people who don't know who you are. How do you? How do you explain it now? What's your? What's your pitch line with your log line because we're working on like creating content yet unholiday. Right so I'm a PT obviously I graduated from University of Wisconsin. To. Two thousand GS, Nineteen, eight, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, eight long ago. So, I actually teach to a bunch of PT School so. I am actually teaching PT. I've been a PT longer than they've been live. these students. And I didn't know at the time, but I ended up in the world. And there's a fantastic group of PT's across the country across the world working on. Haji, but there's not a whole bunch of us. Not so a lot of us PT specialized an apology I'm teaching. And it's it's just a fun world, but there's just this frustration. A my call to cancer rehab gap where you know, we get apology and PT School, but you don't get to do on college. Take care patients very well. In NPDOR, most PT schools and the such problem, but one ons. We don't tease enough about oncology Orange Rehab, and then oncologists surgeons medical oncologists. Radiation oncologists do not know enough about Rehab, so yeah, the patients. Through this a bit of of our lack of knowledge in it's really. Frustrating when we have so much to offer I mean it's just again. It's manual therapy. It's therapeutic exercise. It's nothing that a a p. t coming out of school couldn't do as long as they just kinda showed their thinking a little bit and apply what we already know. Two different patient population a like it. Why forgot to I forgot to crack the drink today? Want to say thanks to our friends from owns recovery science. There's source for PT's who are looking for certification and personalized blood flow, restriction, rehabilitation, training, and equipment to apply it online We're going diet coke lesbian that I'm doing from the North Way Brewing up staying here home state of New York. It's called Avenue of the Pines. You Win your case. And, it's one of those tall cans man I finished one of these two of these. No good I'm on the floor. cheers new virtual chairs. We do the camera there and we'll. We'll get this episode. That's. Is You know, and it's the land of microbrews here, and like who has the job of coming up with these names of these beers awesome job. It is an awesome retire. I want that job. I walk around like a world world of beer. The way I picked this when they just head, cool can art. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I was like the science. That's cool cannot buy that and it's a good beer. That's That's bonus points I'm. Less than we've had you on the show before talking cancer, Rehab and again we're will refer back to those people want to hear. More specifics in of treatment. We bring you on the show today to talk about something else. You didn't have this in your intro, but you're. Content. Creator and you know you're not dabbling. You're jumping in in front of the green screen. You're doing all the bells and whistles. You do the whole thing. And you know I was back in. September of two thousand eighteen Do People say. What do you do for a living like talk I just see the same things over and over and over again especially when you're working with a real concentrated patient population like many of us do now in a very more specialized world of P T I'm like Jeeze, if I could just have this, either on paper or or something, so a dear friend of mine who kind? Kind of works as my business analyst, said you know I. Challenge you to do thirty videos thirty days. I knew nothing I didn't even know. She brought that up, but it was a challenge in irritated me, so I had to do it, and she thought I was just GonNa, grab my iphone and and say Oh, here's what I had for dinner the night and here's how you stretch the. Major but I just I don't know what just kind of blossomed into this case. I'm going to do this I. Want to speak to my audience I. WanNa teach them something And So, you know. I literally knew nothing had nothing, so it started with. Watching youtube videos. Okay how I have this on my iphone. What do I do with? How do I turn this into something that you can put on facebook and? When you make video, where do you put it on? So. And now I actually have a checklist. So, it really started as a challenge, and then because I started doing it. They came You know there is the people are on facebook. and people hurt. People have problems. People have strokes. Parkinson's disease people have e- pain. You'll have cancer. And, as soon as I started talking I, had no idea but my my viewership just grew and grew and grew, and then I couldn't the stop. You know Because it became a thing. Now, it has a name. It's called the recovery room, and just this last Friday across five, hundred, thousand or five thousand. Followers a team. It's really very excited because it's all been organic. I mean you can pay to do that stuff, but it's been all organic. And, my goal is to hit ten thousand by the end of this year. which is a stretch goal, but now what the heck! Congratulations that's. Worth commending because. Yeezy when you when you see a celebrities, got you know five ten million Thing listen. They built that brand for a long time being an actor and actress or of Sports Athlete. When you're building something organically, it's difficult, but those those connections are worth it and we'll get into the connections of the results right, so you got challenge. Make thirty videos in thirty days and you went the other route which is I'm thinking about my audience? Right, which is instead of like. Hey, here's. My phone is what I had for dinner last night. That's how me. Is going to the audience much and you flipped it around literally. into into Selfie mode and started making those videos, but you were thinking about the audience now. Where's your audience straight up patients was it educating other colleagues or physical therapists about both or you know? How did you find audience I kind of went? With Kind of the the patient audience because I'm not really connected with a lot of other PT's. And I and I did have a little bit of a following because I'm kind of hopeless and survivor groups, so I just threw it up on facebook, and because they were already connected to me, they started seeing it, and then, of course they share, and and they share and the NFL. There they call they call their medical colleges or their cancer Stanford, and say Oh my. God have you seen this great And so I kind of used my. Formula using the clinic to it's my magic formula called vet 'em. Everything's guy have acronym. How to engage your patients that makes them your patient long-term. Just Hook Line and sinker are gone so ballot eight explain. Teach motivate. So anybody who's in pain or anybody's? Who's WHO's been in an accent needs to be validated especially people with cancer. This is not your fault I know you can't bend your knee I. Know You can't get your arm over your head I know it hurts it. That's what happens after this kind of accident. This kind of surgery of this type of disease so it's okay to hurt. It's okay to complaint. That's really important for people to to to grab that. And then explain to patients why it hurts. Why can't move a why? They had to undergo this particular kind of procedure? Teach them because their physicians and nurses often don't have time to do that or they don't dude level that the patients like added in ninety percent of that, so we in pt have a one foot in the medical world. We also have a foot, though the the patient world, so we can explain things a lot better than most physicians have the time to do skill set to do. and then the next point is to teach them. Okay. What are we going to do to get out of here? Step one step two step three step four. This is gonNA. Take on my part. This is GonNa take on your part and this is about how long it's GonNa take, and then you should expect to be one hundred percent pain free are you should expect hoping hoping we can get you back eighty percent? You might have your pain some time, but you should be able to do what you want. and then finally as motivate people I. Mean People just got their butts kicked something? They don't people. Patients don't come to PT's because they're happy. so things wrong. So so motivate you know. Here's the expectations. Expect for you can do that. You have the ability to do this. You have the skill. To of my famous lines are exercise like your life depends on it, because it does and you know you are the most pertinent preachers like the most important person on the planet because you are. So they're just those little motivational pieces, said those really kind of engage your audience, and take it to a home level, and they just they. They stick around now. When you approach your your teaching like that, I like that validate educate teach motivate very good Jimmy, are you a you? Flip that right over into your content and and and this was not planned, but I. I was actually taught in radio teaming I. Today I want you to be tight like don't use. Don't use ten words of five will do exactly me bright. Just be be informed. By stick around, listen to, even if he's telling me a dumb joke, right, but at least get to it and I I want the laugh and then be informative when I leave have something whether it's humor, motivation or information when I leave your radio show. That I had before, and this makes me WANNA. Come back, so that was just wrote that down. Type. Let's get to it, so that already created content it was it was a it was A. Dare I love when things start as the game. which is like you won't by? Line from my friends in high school and we'll still we're in our forties, man and You won't and then. I have to do it more, so you did it. You did thirty videos in thirty days. Let's start there. It's short response in thirty days. How much do you think you progressed just by making a video a day for thirty days huge right? It's. The only way to do it because you can't take a class on this is so experiential. Learning your iphone I mean you can either spend a week with it intense or or go to four classes learning. Right it's just do it, yeah. I spend a lot of time on Youtube. I threw. FM's left and right I didn't break any cameras, but I felt like my phone out the window. because it's just frustrating. Once. You learn it now. You got it and it's a skill. Set that I think I learned more in my early fifties than I did in the last twenty decades. Just by by doing an it's fun, and it's cool and I know a lot more now than some twenty and thirty year old so yeah, and that's the other thing. You know you've been saying you. You've been teaching students longer that. You've been even practicing feet longer than the students been alive. You're doing stuff. We're show some samples you're doing since that is going to be over some people's heads. It was over your head. Way Over, and you didn't let it be over your. You're like I'm going to. This is pissing, but if I do this, my audience is GonNA learn more. They're going to be educated. They're going to be taught. It'd be motivated. Validate them with the video and and keep in mind. Don't do exactly what Leslie does. You don't have to have a podcast or video stream. So where would you start? Someone comes to you because I get this a lot as a pod monster. Hey, man! What it's almost, it's funny, because like a lot of them. Come to me and they're like I WANNA. Start a podcast. And they're pitching me. Their show and the first thing I do ironically is validate and I say this sounds like a great idea. You don't need my permission just so we're clear. Right like almost not asking for permission, but they're like. Is this a good idea? What do you think and then then comes in that education? That's going to be complete female we're going to. We're GONNA. Do this whole thing's. It's educate. Educate part, where would you tell someone to start? If you turn to a friend or colleague and you said thirty in thirty days. Where would you have him start? I would first of all conceptualize. Okay on my my checklist, if okay, who? WHO's your pick? Your audience who talking to always starts with people? And then what is your intent? Are you trying to be funny? Are you trying to educate? Are you trying to get them to buy something from you? What's your intention? And then you don't have to have a name for your space, but you have to put your video somewhere where people can see them, because people aren't GonNa, go. Hey, I'm GONNA laugh. Was that you could pick name last two. Right so! But so where are you going to post? Are you gonNA put them on Youtube? Where going to put them on facebook? Are you going to put them on instagram on link then? We're GONNA. Put them because you need space to put them there. And then so I would just literally start with that and the only hesitation. I haven't talked about this. Stuff is or showing videos. Is that if I hadn't seen these before, I started I would've started because it looks like last too complicated I can't figure that out. Really I approached it from such a position of ignorance. Well, we're. Let's flip that with that. You approach it from curiosity and desire. Want could be able to do this better. Go, I'm here. I don't even know where I wanna be I wanNA. Be Better than here. Right? Yeah, so. When I started, so you don't have to have that intent of that plan just. Do it just shoot something. The very first video I shot. I stood I stood in this corner. Right here and I put my little camera over there and I put my makeup on I still there and I said hi, I'm the doctor Leslie Wilkie, and then I just and I, wrote my script or Batur and I hung it up there so I could see it, and then I put that on and then. The cocaine that's done. That was cool, so the next one I did I literally took my laptop on on A. Like A. Like a music stand right, hook it outside and just talk to it. And, that worked. As, it was just an and others. I use my iphone. And then I got kind of fun and I got this little green screen going on back there, so that I could and I could dump that into. My my, because then the next thing. You'RE GONNA. If you. If you're doing more than just using your iphone you want to take that next step. It's using a green screen, but then you're gonNA have to invest in. Some kind of editing software. And Furlough for for most Max already come with I'm movie. Betsy. You've already have it. I you screen flow, which is a Mac format and then cantate Ios or those folks with with Stuff. And then, because then when you do that, then you can start getting a little fancier, so I can stand in front of a green screen and Chitchat and then have a completely different picture behind me right put bullet points of of what I'm talking about where I can show some random dog walking down the street or whatever, but this is baby steps right? We've talked. Episode people need to hear this about the triathlon program that you have with with survivors from cancer treatment. You, don't you don't teach someone how to do a flying dismount from their bike to their run the first day. You don't keep green screen the first day. Vance move. Let's let's get you comfortable talking into this thing right here. which by the way I didn't do a lot radio. I get comfortable with his camp. Yeah, but actually I like it now because this brings leslie. WHO's in the Mid West to me in New York and I? Get This I. Get this I contacted, but when you can turn this inanimate object because you're doing it a lot, you're not talking to the audience in real time your record. But when you can turn this inanimate object, and you can picture, conceptualize, and say I'm talking to people. Got It okay now. In. That's heart that takes a good couple of months to get to get comfortable of standing in front of my pets went crazy. They're like what is she doing? Why should making that noise? after a couple months they're just they just plop on the floor. Now. Lay Down there. She goes again donor bank I. It's just uncomfortable and weird. It's a comfort level. You just have to develop. We called it Empty Room Syndrome so whenever I was one to go from wanting to be a radio DJ. Come on in. Here's the buttons and We'd haven't train off. You know off air for a couple of couple. Come on air and I was like here's the deal. You're gonNA say something really funny or really really cool a really anything, interesting or creative, and then you're gonNA hear. Thing. 'cause you're standing in a room alone now. People are in their cars or their living or their garages, and listening to you and what you've gotta think you got to hear in your head, is this? Guy Here that cheer. Just gotTa keep moving a committee comedian on stage. You tell a joke. Bombs keep moving. Do not tell the punchline again. It was bad the first time it's worse the second. You gotTA. Get past that because you're I've seen videos a you literally just taken a walk down your street and you're like Hey I'm GonNa talk to you about this today. Already tell however many videos in there's his comfort level of I'm I'm going to speak I. Am I'm educated right? So that's what I do. Not to interrupt, but you have to remember to because even when I watched people's videos God, they're so good. Editing and Tang there. So you see somebody's at three minute video and it took them a half an hour. Shoot that I'll tell you this though right? So who are the guys that I looked up to you? The women I look up to are comedians. Doing it live right. Yeah and. Host Jimmy. Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon Jimmy Mackay I love to be in the mount. Rushmore gimmes one day, but I'm just not like. For you and a lot of times on one week 'cause they know we got to get it done so there is there you do hit a level where? We went we used to record. Let's unites talk on the phone and then I would. I edit very rarely now so I have I can't believe about suicide. Cova de think is it started making me? Be More. Conscious of how I WANNA, see I. WanNa see eyeballs I wanna see I wanNA. Lean into the camera. I want you to know that I. Agree with what she's saying I want to see. My fist-bump and stuff like that, but. I love that. Check that you just referenced you, said the word intent. What is your intent? It's Iran. I literally say the same thing but different. I say what do you want the audience to feel? An after they're done with your content and then I shut up. And they're usually like wait. I haven't thought about that I. go right why masking Becua-. Yeah Yeah, and again selfishly a lot of my videos are what questions do I wanNA stop answering every freaking day. because. I travel, and teach so much I have all these people coming up to me. Saying this hurts. That hurts I. Don't understand why teague. What is this drug me? What does that mean? I don't understand this. Why does that hurt so now? I literally can hand them a card with the recovery room on it and say check out this video library episode. By the A, one people ask all the time. What am I have to get on a plane and go home. I hate leaving people without the answer so now this way to answer this question you're you're you're creating library very specific answers right, and and you're not going to answer every question and. You're not gonna find everything on Youtube. This is not a cure all, but you're gonNA filter a lot of things out. Yes, you're going to say hey I. I did a video on. This explains everything in three minutes and go for, and there's that tight, bright informative formula, which is like I got you. It's specific typewriter. Forget you. If I look for something on Youtube, and I see the videos nineteen minutes long and. I'm like. If you can't get it done in three I'm kind of like a and that's like that's more specific. How do I accomplish this task like like I I just car and I was like I don't know how to turn the Dome Light off, and it was. It was like varied, but the video was forty five seconds had been I'm like no. It's. The other thing that you said was Jerry Orden, which is think about where you gonNa Park these things right putting them on a website is one thing, but then people to direct people to the website, and you're not GonNa get a lot of heads right so what you're saying. This is the word the verbiage that I use this talk like your audience listens. Listen like your audience talks. If Yard is on instagram and you're on twitter, you got a problem. You're on if you're on the same, and it's sounds simple, but people will make this mistake. I'm going to be on Youtube and I'm like well. How are you GonNa? Get found, you know. I put out content again found great, but you need to be putting this content other places to lead them to youtube channel all right, so that's that's where to start. There's your checklists. What else is on? There's anything we we didn't get to yet. So let's see. So posting. So, I always recommend facebook. audience! My audience is not I don't everything on Youtube. Because then you can email. It's easier to link to if you're spending links, but I have three hundred dollars on on Youtube is all so they're just not. They're I'm not pushing that button And then so the the three major components than when you are taking the next step like how could it make this little better are video, lighting and sound. Old Come again I'm just getting into this. My show to help me look better help so. It will lighting is important. and sound is important so honestly. The iphones these days are credible. They really are so. That's the last thing I would probably buy a camera. but I do have so I use my. By phone eight and then I had my little DSL. Our camera that I literally shoot video with this. Camera but the experts will say that people. Your audience will be more tolerant of bad video then they will be a audio now. People will listen. To something, it sounds good looks crappy, but they will not watch something that looks good was in. It sounds crappy so. An audio standpoint again as long as you're close enough document. I'm literally talking to my laptop right now. in a youth fear within eight feet of your iphone. You'RE GONNA. Be Fine, but it gets to a point where you may want to invest in like where it's this thirty foot corn. You plug it into your iphone. Plug it into your camera and you can stand away. That's is. Pretty Cheap I. Think you can get these for twenty bucks Yup. and then it got to put like I didn't be tethered all the time because I'm doing this on a daily basis that I'm like I trim over that PM court more time. As you're your address. So then I switched to the wireless. Swear Slob, which was really nice, because then one piece hooks to the camera. One Peace looks to me, and as long as you remember to turn it off to cookie before you go to the bathroom, you're you're good. Funny, story cleese to? Date My. My Day job is the director of communications for Fox rehabilitation, and I hope my bosses in watching but this. The cost of some of these things when you get your really good can go up like a might have. Mike is Thirty Bucks, but a wireless mic might be three or four hundred bucks because they're in between space. You're going to get audio dropping out right so I knew when you good wireless laps, I'm talking to three hundred bucks, maybe five hundred bucks a pop. And he's not an audio guy, but needed to make my example clear, and he said because he's a smart guy, he said. Can we do it with wired, and said absolutely we work with older adults, and I said I'll be over here the video with a physical therapist and an eighty five year old patient with seven co morbidity. All these we've got it on tape. And he said how much wireless mics I had five mile owns in. Which PT Brain with. Working. But but yeah, I mean and you see the headphones. This isn't because I want to look like I'm on Apollo Eleven. There is a little bit of a different sound, an audio guy I run this Serum Mixing Board and I can do like really funny things like I could do. Things like that whenever I need a little bit of a an ego, boost and stuff like that, but audio is important. There's also I want to send you. Maybe we'll drop it in the comments I. Just picked it up this week. Assure Microphone Kit. Attached to the iphone comes a little Tripod thing was like two hundred bucks I'd beat on it for the last twenty four hours. This thing picks up. Great sound attaches right to your iphone so I'll to you and I'll put it in the comments as well for. This is and it comes from shore, which is a really really good name in the world of microphones. In fact, there microphones are usually a little bit out of my price range Let all right, so we've got lighting. We've got audio. What was the third thing that you had said? About. Lighting and sound and lighting. I. You know right now I've got my overhead light on and I'm not perfectly. Let 'cause. This isn't a video shoot. homedepot and bought some a you know. I just want on Youtube Anisette. Okay? What lights do I need? so I literally went to Home Depot Lights there now. We're just fine for the level of videos that I'm doing well I. Mean Let's do it. Let's do a demo reel. Quick Watch. I got a desk lamp, so I don't look that great right? There look pretty worried out. A desk lamp, but I found the wreck on Youtube I'm pointing it off the wall. And now it's banking off the wall. I've got a I've got some are on the wall, so it's Kinda read. It's not a white wall, and it's coming at me and looks right, and this is coming from a radio guy, but I've found the answer the same way I want you to like. How do I how to look better on youtube videos and? Get Desk Lamp Pointing Wall. Making money because all of these executives and all these professionals across the planet are on zoom now because that's where meetings are that people are making money teaching how teaching people how to not look like an idiot as part of my job now. I'm like okay. Well yeah absolutely. So many. I'm creating so much content with physical occupational speech therapist around the country, and the goal is will now I've got the capability of video now teams we can use zoom whatever and I'm like okay. You look good, but the rules right I want the camera at or just above my line. If I'm sitting down I, WANNA be within an arm's length. I was tell people at arm's length of the camera, and that's good for good audio, or you know we make sure we have headphones, so we don't get that feedback. Loop I mean. Does it matter you just referenced? People will watch a video if it's OK video, but not grade audio, but if both they'll stick around even longer. If data to point to it that you have quality content quality, production value the stick around. And again especially hits in a professional setting where you're leading a meeting people that you may not know. What's what kind of chair you sit and what's behind you? You know keebler looking like you'll like this and it's like hello look. Stopping. It really how you present yourself matters if there's some meetings where people like whatever you got to get our stuff down thirty minutes that. Professionalism matters, and there is a step to that you present yourself in in video. You don't need to to pitch at first impressions matter I. Think Everybody just kind of like. Thing is a lot of them. We'll just I'll just throw the laptop open like well. That's your first impression. If that's your first impression, you can't Redo that first impression so it is, it's it's worth the time in the effort. Even if it's a listen, you don't need to spend a lot of money, even if it's a youtube search or twenty seconds of thinking. Hey, maybe I don't want this this laptop camera, you know blow islands, so you check it out. How many nose hairs got going on? You don't want that so if you can prepare yourself a little bit right, so that's what you do so like me. I framed up the Brooklyn Bridge in the background, not a green screen. So, so let's see if I can share some videos. Which one do you WANNA share I. Let's see. What you got. Let's do Let's just go with liquid first of all, because that's the easiest thing anybody can do. That video is shot and I call liquid because the essence of this video is how much liquidity supposed to drink in a day in thrown out the because most my cancer patients are saying how she really that that glasses of water is really a myth. So, this entire video which I think is four minutes long I'm all of it was shot with my iphone. no. On a Selfie, stick right and again you have to watch I'm holding its you. Don't WanNa be obvious at old stick is that's kind of tacky. So I'm holding the Soviet stick. You can't really tell I. It's right now just in the still a. Position somewhere our jewelry way. And it's it's all sound in video from the. Looks like he's just someone just dragging behind you. So I literally shot this inside Sam's Club. You made a throne of model. Let's go sits in what? Where's her a lot of liquid? We're going to see him. You could have brought a DSL and you could have improved the quality this much, but the portability would've went down respond. Now. Here's somebody else's holding the camera for me. Obviously because I gotTA talk with my hands while you still sorry not with the iphone. But she just moves a little bit and again never gets more than four feet away from me, because I'm not only using the iphone sound and then just kind of talk that all take took this all of these little short clips together because I'm going to move somewhere else. And, then I took some Can you fast forward ultimately out for you want to go? Right this so here walking of course walking by some beer We've got to tell people that the name of this this is called B roll. Yeah WanNA. See Video. Just go to youtube and right and type. B Roll, and you'll get the party video bureau which is hysterical, but In terms of post production value, which is a little voice over b-roll lets you tell a big story in a short amount of time, but doesn't lose the visual of doesn't doesn't the audience visual. Why I shot over some rape before that I shot over some fruit, because fruits qualifies as liquid. Amstutz clubs got just tons of it, and it's great. It's great color. It's great visual and then And then actually at the end of this one. We don't have to watch it, but there's actually some outtakes here. I shot this. I walked into the door and it was locked slammed right into it. And, you're like all right well. We don't live. All right I'm gonNA pause this one. And what are we doing next and just? The, the audience right now doesn't get the audio, but we're we're. We're talking over it anyway you want to do. Or behind the scenes. Let's do behind the scenes because then. This shows you how to use green screen. Spending about is how to use how how I how do I, do what I do right? I've been so confused in how green screens work so here I am standing with my iphone products Danny Green screen. For a second because I'm going to do. I'm going to snap my fingers and do a little fun video trick. So I'm just chit chatting about you. Answer questions in the recovery room. Whether questions is how you do that, so that's honestly what this video was about. Okay. Yeah! So the toothbrushes I get. How do you do that? How do you do that, but? I do a fun little. Snap, you knew like. Yeah. This is US radio for it. You know I'll come on a pretty cool smear. Learns done you, too. So see I just kind of stopped the video and I changed clothes went back and myself in the same position, and then just put the too close together, and if you're the same screen, it doesn't really matter where you are what you're doing, so here's my office, so there's my lighting. There's my little livelier. That's the way it one. There's camera. There I am. Gets. anoling on there and a guest that's. Your Find A. Fast forward a little bit Jimmy to. The camera and then. GIG BARGAIN SKIP that. So those in the room right now. Wavelengths So skip more and we'll get to, so there's where that's the editing software on my laptop inflow, Ryan Sunscreen, bullets, rate and again that was all. experiential learning, so I just want to highlight this. You'd literally made an entire piece of content in how you make content. Let's we. By the way I have a getty's well. We! But you wanted to let people in literally into the recovery room and you show them this. All this stuff you're showing us how much how much did have in your first three months? Little. I had a lot of this. Stuff is my closet. Wardrobe magazine I professional wardrobe. Step up my wardrobe game. and again it's nice to. Remind branding now is is me and the. SCRUBS IN A row. Now. So, I had maybe fifty percent of that when I started right. And then just kind of added. Just becomes more convenience for me, cow. And maybe a little bit better for the consumer. But otherwise you need lighting video and sound and you Kinda from an iphone. We're looking at third video and this is. Looking at. Is this radiation this? You got to be kidding me. That I'm looking at it off screen, and I'm like what kind of level is. This seriously got lasers laser. relievers? We're GONNA. You're flying through space so again. That's me literally standing in front of a green screen, so it's litter here right over. Well, you guys can see. There's migraine. Dependent and then you just put it into your computer, and then you can put something behind you whether it's A. You know a screen like that that that's part of my. obt virtual buttons, farm eulex Affront Exit Taller yet, and that's just all on onsite learning. But so now we're GONNA. Go behind. We're going to go into the radiation. Oncology Department again. My my goal for this video was to make people less afraid of the patient. A little walk through out there. There's already county nurse. They're very nice people. They're all super nice. And then destroyed some cool stuff like this so now this is again video that I shot with my iphone. And I took him home. Put It on my laptop. Now. Stand on green screen with the video going behind me so I could do, but it's a lot more fun. And then there's are linear accelerator sizzle chat with My. This be role in the back is all chat with my iphone, but when you see me talking, that's shot with my DSL are in my office. Wow! This is Kinda shook the patient the table and why? It's important that we talk about positioning how why do we have to work so hard to get your arms ready? And and again it's just very. Very disarming patients to understand what all this stuff is, and why they have and. Yeah your. Housing people to to what they're actually going to experience. Wow, we don't have any lasers. I I gotta I gotTa talk to my producers. We have no lasers with no onscreen buttons. You know what we have, sometimes sometimes we have. You know what I mean. Have you ever had any? Have? You ever been been on the show. I just tend validated right. They're not having talking banana I don't want to Brag, but I'm a banana right now. But a lot of that Baroque comes with your I pay think sixty dollars a year to screen for you get library of of photos. Sounds so I can make people laugh at me, too yeah! and. Where you want to be safe, you go. All Day today Oh my God I'm using snap camera right now, so people are not. You can run this right through your camera If you're a Batman fan, you could be Bain. Darkness! You only adopted it. You know this is the way if you're a star. Wars fan demand. You'd be very patriotic very very patriotic and you could. Get. A little bit a little bit of effort on the front end can can can bring you some big results on the on the back end, yeah! Results let's talk about those results in the back end you know you mentioned you know follower subscribers, everything, but talk to me about connections to the people that you've the people you were thinking about when you made those I videos, so. The connections are huge, so I have learned a ton because when you're talking with people who are out in the world, you know we spend all day with patients that are in the middle of physical therapy I'm talking to people who've been done on the other side so while have I learned a Lotta? They're fine. Oh, I fixed them I, learned a ton Oh. They're not okay. These the questions that they have deserve you know. So I've learned a ton The feedback has been incredible so I'd be I have become a better physical therapist, talking to people who are on the other side of this connecting them with each other 'cause. Now that gets talk to each other is really cool so they validate each other. But I now have. Support Groups and cancer organizations that now take some of the stuff. Some of the contents relevant to with every once in a while like Oh. Yeah, this is really good contents. They posted on their page. I've met people met and I've done now. Conferences for people that I've never met that. I've met through the recovery room. So it's. It's a big world out there and so many people are affected. Again regardless of what your service line is in in in the world that you're working in PT There's people out there. That are suffering in this people that do what you do. so those connections whether it's you know professionals. physicians nurses war professional organizations in that particular disease or injury type. Or other physical therapists that do this kind of stuff or the patients, so it is such a a novel. Upcoming Way to communicate. And connect. Like your audience talks. If you do that and people think there's a trick magic. If you do that consistently enough. Yup, you're connecting all the time like I. Tell people to like people talk, and they'll say well your degrees in communications and stuff like that in terms of. Public Relations and you're always public relations. Crappy job at it or you're doing a really great job at it and if You're doing a crappy job of it but you're saying there are people out there that need my services information and I'm going to talk like they listen and listen like they talk and when you do that, you can't miss in terms of communication. We're not GONNA do it on this show. We try to keep this thing. Oh, go ahead! That's where I got the nickname used at the beginning of the show explainer in chief. People like? I just I never understood that before so breaking it down in this video format because we may not have three to five minutes to decide not for all. Right it or in in the middle of a patient. PT Session of got a half an hour and a spacious gotta be somewhere where I've got somebody. I don't have time to do it, but I'll say you know what child is at home. If it goes into depth on on exactly what what you're feeling here, so. You started that was. You even I mean we've all seen this this this lightbulb moment. Oh, when you explain it, and it might be the fiftieth time away the five hundred times here, but we needed to hear it and if they didn't get it when they go. Oh, it's a great feeling. I love had that feeling. A better even when the priests knees feeling, which is strangely pleasing. But it's like Oh i. get it like I was it was dark and now it's light. Can Do that and you can do it on scale if This patient engagements go up and you. Know, show rate is going to go down yes and. This is a family show Leslie. Apparently, there was an f-bomb story. I was supposed to ask you about. I think it was the other way around I. Think you're GONNA. Tell me about. Tell Me Yours I. Want you said You had an f-bomb? You Tell Me Yours I'll tell you that I just. While they're frequent. The story is continual, although now not as much, but the Boyana, because again everything experiential learning. It was just frustrating and my family and pets again could hear me screaming for my office and they. Were going depending on my yelling and hollering, and it's just, but now once again I don't swear, I don't really care that much anymore, and it's not that I've been concurred. I still just don't need to. That's good, so the my f-bomb story comes from W. B.. S. X. which is ninety seven nine x northeast. Pennsylvania Wooksbury Scranton. And so a lot of stations will. He will have a thirty second delay when you hear that they're actually be a machine in the room. It's there about thirty. Forty grand at the time is ten fifteen years ago. It was the machine with an actual big red button that you would punch. And we didn't have when I got there. They weren't everywhere when I was in radio hours I mean we were still using eight tracks back, but. We installed one on a Thursday and. Trained on on Thursday and Friday. My boss was going live from wwe event at the Mohegan Sun Arena so he's going to be standing outside. He was going to be like you know John Man. I'm a street talking to everybody and I'm still going all right. We're GONNA. Live in in three two. One is like Hey, what's up? I'm Chris Lloyd and we're outside and wwe. It's going to be the smackdown Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Hey, and so he's got people filtering into the arena behind him. And he goes. Are you excited for tonight? And just points Microsoft at some kid and the kid just y'all's. Bremmer. And I'm literally in the studio and I'm like I. Just got trained on the on this. Yesterday and I look over. There's two buttons green and red, and I'm like I'm pretty sure it's hit. The Red Button hit the. There were hit at once. Don't have to hit. It twice. Hit that thing thirty eight time. At my boss is yelling my ear to hit the button hit the button. Did you hit the button? Did you hit hit hit? But we're off the air off the air, so you gotta pay taxes that stuff on the Internet you, can you drop on John You? Know, but we just try to keep. This is a family show. In case you listed in the car That that f-bomb story is brought to you by our friends at medical staffing. They don't drop F bombs. That's why we like them. leaders in the travel PT World and permanent placements as well so if you're graduating needed somewhere to go sure you check them out no obligation, sometimes people think of you go there and you ask him a question then. Then, you're signed up like you're in the foreign legion. That's not how it is It's a you are a US. Medical Dot Com. That is a U. R. E. S. medical comments. Also a lot of people think it's just outpatients peaks. It's not all settings, all locations, all fifty states, plus Washington DC so again. Go there a you are US medical dot. com. Leser before, let you go. We got do your parting shot ready for that. I am let's. Check out this video I want your once you're. If I was GONNA impress one person if I can impress. Dr, Leslie, Walkie. On Your Trust listen and I'll tell people out there. That's from a company called videos via. E Does e e or something like that. You find to a service and it's X. number of dollars a year and you can personalize Biro Biro transition stuff does that take the production value up? So Yeah party shot from the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapy at Orthopedics Oregon. a bunch of different course on there. We were talking about current concepts of orthopedic physical therapy, being the leader. If you wanted to go and take the exam, they've got a bunch more lower quarter up. Recorder the Joint, so if you want to up your game as Orthopedic Physical Therapist. Who else you WANNA go to write HATEMI OF ORTHOPEDIC PT. Check them out. Ortho P., T. dot org, the other parting shot Liz. You've been on the show before. This is like your mic drop moment. On your microphones in the room and actually physically drop it on the floor. Don't. Actually. NIGHTRIDER MASSIVE OFF! What do you want to? What do you want to leave audience with I I love this because. Y- videos can be evergreen. So never put a date ninety nine so i. Did reposting stuff so the other night? I heard I heard my connect. Forget what I'm going to say. It's like watching myself in the first time and I'm like right down. Unlike an it's a perfect parting shot so and for people that are watching and are interested in doing video. Insert your servants line here whether it's again. Ortho or it's pediatrics, geriatrics, neuro, whatever cardiology. So here's my parting shot. Cancer is a tough topic yet. We have found a novel way to share important information that is evidence based medically accurate, designed to make life smarter, healthier and happier for those by cancer or insert your service line here. So this is just a novel way to get information on. You know it is up. It's microphone. Youtube is a microphone. Use It. Yeah, and if you look around the world, the entire world has monitors right here, so you got the Mike and your hands. World has a monitor with some speakers on it, and they're waiting their yearning for your content if that appeals to them. Create that content Let's let's throw her website up on the wall of the THE WALKIE ACADEMY DOT COM Make sure you check out her. Listen even if you're on the world of Oncology Rehab. Check out what she's doing and do what she just said. Flip it, and how can I do exactly this to help? My patients are my colleagues. The socials there as well. Let's let's have you back on the show. We'll talk more tactical treatment the next time you're around, but I really wanted I. wanted to commend you on the the way. You're able to not add but multiply value and it's. Fun Interactive and good stuff and the audience should be our audience. 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