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Bad With Money

Frankie and Jess

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Bad With Money

"HT's Franken just show podcast here on iheartradio. Final, seconds. Here, this NBA season. The respect for most to And that's it. It's over this historic twenty twenty NBA. Championship belongs to the Los. Angeles Lakers. The, Lakers conquer the other. Data number seventeen will through hanging in the rafters. Not Surprising the Lakers one, but I still can't get over. So let's can cheer and applause and everything right have been so pretty sure it is. I. Mean I, know in the bubble they had some people but. Not like what you're hearing in the background listen. Started over again, go. On your stupid thing, they computers this. Deal. Gerald NBA season. The. Respect from those two. And that's it. It's over the bugs me it. Bugs me knowing that they're not drain of people in the background ageless Lakers. The Lakers. So Weird. To. Me Listen listen. Give us. So. Anyway. Yeah. You're a fan of the NBA. Then you know that they won. If you're not, you probably don't care I don't long. Six and eleven it's simple ones the number one hit music station with Frankie and just welcome to Monday We Pretty Nice Looking Day today. So we're going to be about seventy tomorrow be mid-seventies sounds like mid sixties for Wednesday. So kind of back and forth, but but it sounds like in the seventy starting off the week. But by the time we get to the midpoint of the week we're going to be in the sixties it's been crest. Fall is is definitely I mean that's here but I think it's the the weather as quickly following you know where it should have been probably a couple of weeks ago we had our long summer we asked for that's that's one of the good things about twenty twenty this year. Let's let's just count her blessing. God knows that we're you know things that you're asking for aren't coming I mean who knows that we still have what is today October twelfth. Yeah. So we still have a little bit left in two thousand twenty like if we were to write a list of pros and cons for twenty twenty, we still need some more route. All right. We got a lot of things coming up. So at seven o'clock this morning, we'll get to this because we do it on Mondays and we definitely need it on Mondays. So if you've got some good news, we WANNA about it. So what is it eight hundred nine, four, five text Texas trying to keep it a shortage of the in front of that message hit about thirty minutes here giving you something to talk about some interesting stories in the news we're GONNA come back. We'll get into the early edition of Hollywood headlines For your Monday. So what are we starting with crazy tried to post a picture, but I was having issues with the computer on my end. So I'll get that all worked out the show and have some new picks up. But Cardi B. is crazy until you today tastes like Game Day at home. Like a sign couch seating. Coffee Table, dining. And an ice cold coke cooled down the heat. Today tastes like watching football is posted. And it never tasted. Coca Cola together tastes better. Football season is here that means it's time to load up on delicious ice cocoa pick up coca-cola from your nearest retailer today. What? You've been listening to the ninety seven, one VAT Frankie and Jessica podcast Robert here on iheartradio. All. Right. Let's get into the early edition of Hollywood headlines for your Monday and it's brought to you by skin sculpt this morning. Awesome. Okay. So he tried to post picks of Cardi B. and I was having issues with my system. So I'm going to try and get those upright after the show today on the Hollywood headlines Page Cardi. B., had her birthday celebration over the weekend and she's like I'm twenty eight I'm twenty, eight, twenty, eight. She's not she started people started doing some research that have been following her millions of people follow her and at forty two. Old issued. Patent Patent or age six, allegedly in her early thirties are Eugenie. So we gotta talk about that again. That's a good topic. Does though so many people that I know they will not recognize their real birthdays concession honor to get older. You know what I mean like not that we don't struggle with it but at least you're alive who does that Cardi B.? He's okay. Yeah. We're GONNA set that aside that's definitely a good topic. We haven't done that in a bit no. So yes, you said she was twenty eight people were doing the research and they're like she's she's like thirty two. So she's lying by four years at least I know. So she had this big birthday bash over the weekend and she and. are allegedly getting divorced, but he was at the birthday party and people were doing instagram lives taking pictures and bids, and she's given him lap dances. To offset, they're making out like everybody's having a good time and so everyone's like okay. There were very coupley for somebody that's you know they filed for divorce so they and then he took out a billboard from their daughter culture for Cardi B., and that's what I was trying to post was filming the billboard because it was a big birthday billboard. So was her on there saying happy birthday mom or what it was it was just just script it wasn't a picture anything, but it was like Happy Birthday Mommy Love, culture whatever and offset obviously paid for and designed it. So yeah, this big old birthday party over the weekend and He's not really meant twenty eighth. Birthday. have. This ridiculous Oh, my Gosh. Demi Levato do you have the audio from? Debbie. Well, the audio her when she knew she came out against. Okay. So so I heard this so yeah, tell us a little bit about the story is I was like Oh okay, right. So confused so like I yeah, I can't keep up i. know they feel like Demi God bless her I know she struggles with lots of different things in her life and so one day you think she's a certain way and the next day you're like, who is this? I think she just struggles with who she is. Oh Human. And we all struggle with that from time to time because she's she claiming that she's by or says, she's she said she she said she was we're so she talking Tan France from queer eye and she said this is the moment that I knew I was queer and then she said she was also bisexual than she said, you know she's just engaged to a guy the guy. So like every interview, it seems like there's something like another layer. Right? I'm GonNa play the clip that you're talking about. Definitely when I was young and should not have been watching engines but I did and it was that scene where they made out on the park lawn and I was just like, oh wait a minute I. Really. And then when I was seventeen I did get down with that and that's when I knew. So cruel intentions, I've never seen it I know the movie Oh, I thought you did see. The pool scene maybe who who's in it oh, that is someone. Blair. And Sarah Michelle. Gellar don't think I've ever seen okay and I'm thinking of I've seen as like. What I'm thinking of seen. Good call. Good call. So yeah, there was there was a hookup and cruel intentions was which was really hot and then the one that I think of that pool scene that's enough. Campbell and Denise Richards, you're talking yeah that made me go I want to. So. What does the cruel intentions on that come out? I can't remember that was you remember the movie I have never seen it I love and that was. That was Ryan Philipe Reese Witherspoon I think was she in that one too low remember. But anyhow. So some Blair Sarah Michelle, Gellar came out and ninety nine. So they were the ones that were kissing in the movie I think. So I can't remember it's been so long it's been so long but I did love that movie and there is there's is that that bittersweet seventy? I think I'm getting am I getting getting that movie right? Reese Witherspoon wasn't it with right Philipe that's when they were hooking up. They ended up getting pregnant with their daughter and it's that's bittersweet symphony this life that song. Love Design when they ripped off from rolling stones and got sued over oh I, didn't know that. So yes. So that's in the movie but I can't remember the actual scene where they were kissing but yet she said she was like Oh. Wow. That's when it kind of sparked like, Hey, I wanna be a part of the and then with this conversation that clip were playing like I said she was talking to Tan from queer eye and he said how he knew he was gay he said, I was eight and my sister had shirtless Keanu reeves poster room. I want I want. was. Boom. Story for so funny. Demi Levato X.. So she was just engaged to Guy Max this year, and so they quarantined together and they were in the same place for months living together and they got engaged with us like ten carat diamond ring and she was so excited she post all these videos and pictures on social media of her crying and showing her diamond and she can be a little dramatic you know. As we know and so they're done and it was so weird because sources were saying soon as things started to open up a little more, she went back to work. He went back to work there in different places and they knew how to function as a couple in the same dwelling but not necessarily long distance it sounds like there was more to assure you can say that, but it sounds. Like. You said, it doesn't sound like she. She's having a lot of people do, but she's struggling with who she is. You know which is pretty normal, but it's it's a lot for her you know. So her ex was on the beach this past weekend. So the beach that he proposed to her on Paparazzi saw him sitting on the beach like crying and so I was like, Oh, now is he drama like her to? Probably. League you usually where there's one draw and there's two I guess. Couples. I know he was on the beach and then he was in the airport last week and Paparazzi caught up with him and. They were asking him how he was doing these people trolling me. So I guess people that are big Demi fans have been going after him and blaming him for the relationship demise and just like this poor guy didn't realize what he was getting getting signed up for. You didn't know how deep he was in and then Simon Cowl we talked about this. He had that whole issue with that whole by bike. The yeah. The bike crash electronic bike crash, and so he ended up having back surgery and he's been laid up and they were saying that he was doing good and he was recovering pretty quickly I'm hearing that he still having some major issues from that and he will absolutely be laid up for another half a year because he's so in just bad shape and he's in his fifties I think now right? Think he's sixties. I can't remember what is this I'm in some cal, just having such a such a rough go with this and I it was looking promising, but he's really really having a hard time. Sucks Sixty One oh, we is man he looks good. Well, he's had a lot of work done to. The Q.. Still looks fifty one. That's because he's turn back the clock he just turned sixty one on the seven. Oh, he did okay and I think his son Eric is four right didn't have them as late fifties something like i. think he's the. Guy Five right. Maybe around there and he wanted I know he wanted more kids but maybe they just haven't had. Any luck with that his I know his baby mamas a little bit younger. Let's he's five is five. Okay. So he's a little bit older than Axel Okay Yeah. Yeah. So he was yeah. Late fifties when he had him and then this is pretty cool the rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony is going to be obviously virtual this year it's going to be Saturday November seventh and they're going to you know welcome depeche mode the DOOBIE brothers Whitney Houston nine inch nails notorious B I, G, and T rex. And they've got a ton of celebrities and stars lined up to perform miley Levin Dave Grohl diddy Luke Bryan. Don Henley Let's see Jennifer Hudson Lucia Keys Chris Martin Brad Paisley Bruce Springsteen Ringo Starr gwen Stefani a just to name a few. It's GonNa. Be a really cool because they're trying to make it real big since everybody you know since it's virtual and other people be a part of it. So they just said it's GonNa be a little different than years past and they wanna you know look forward and Recognize the impact on the industry and the fans and the next generation of artists and so I thought that'd be cool and did you say is this the one that's pretty political? Well, yeah I think all of those you know all all of those kinds of things are but yeah, D- just don't even listen to WHO's being inducted and it's ridiculous because there are bands that haven't been in or a part of that for their whole career. So it's it's political and then you have other bands or groups or artists. That are don't even fall into you know rock and roll, and you're just like what a? Okay. We aren't there yet but it's the so yeah, I don't even pay attention to it. Okay. So yeah. So a lot of people that do beloved to check this out I. Guess. So Saturday November seventh, and then coming up I heard about the story we've been talking about it talking about next seven twenty. So frigging handed over there's more to as a pair something guess was in town over the weekend right on Friday. So, she had this rally against Provo Canyon School in Provo. It's awesome that she's doing this because Kevin came forward. She said she also went to that school and was abused as well, and so she's corroborating Paris a story and saying absolutely everything she's saying is truth and you know when this first broke because Paris has got this youtube series and she's been talking more about her life and things that we didn't see in the tabloids and things we didn't see with Paparazzi. And she's given a lot of good stuff that is shocking and this part of it and so she you know came out about this Promo Kenyan school and they said, oh no, the school's changed hands. That's not the type of school we are, and then people were like Bs. This is still going on in that place and so she was in. Town on Friday. So we'll have more of the scoop coming up next hour at seven to keep your whole home running like clockwork from the office to the game room with extended Internet, you'll get the best in home wifi experience with reliable speed and coverage. Now, that's simple. Easy. Awesome go online or call one, eight, hundred xfinity today to learn more restrictions apply. Today tastes like Game Day at home. quake assigned couch seating. Bike. Coffee Table Dining. An ice cold coke the cooled down the heat. Today, tastes like watching football is supposed to. Hit never tasted. Coca Cola together tastes better. Football season is here that means it's time to load up on delicious ICE Holkar. Pickup Coca. Cola from your nearest retailer today. DHT's Frankie just show podcast here on iheartradio. Give them something. To talk about. So these are stories in the news. Conversation starters like this one that broke over the weekend I think yesterday the day before and that is almost ten years old this cold-case our we thought it was a cold case. I guess it was November thirtieth twenty ten. That's when it happened in. That is Greg Miller from the jazz organization his mother-in-law was killed So that was twenty ten like said November thirtieth and she was killed stabbed to death at the BMW billiards and books on thirty four, hundred, south seven, hundred east. So that's. Ten years ago. And they didn't have at least you know they weren't sharing anything. So for ten years, we didn't know anything until Saturday they made an arrest it's a twenty nine year old guy arrested him in his home in Orem and it sounds like they're not saying I. Don't think this in this story the relationship but he did confess to after he was read as Maranda rights he confessed to the homicide on it sounds like it was DNA that they got the scene and then they were able to eventually. Took ten years but at least A. Family like they got him remember. So he would have been nineteen member. They billboards all over looking for the killer right? Just like sketch artist sketch of what we were. You know and that was it was very you know there was no information i. mean it was other than that. You know those are yeah. Like how many of those have we seen Oh yeah and it's like, okay, you're rain good luck trying to find that person ten years and years later. The arrest on Saturday. So this is an interesting story. We hear these go set it aside we'll do a topics. We haven't done it in a bit but this is a couple and it looks like they were looking to give birth at this natural birthing center. So the for the woman that contractions you know they started to increase in this Thursday evening. So they call the midwife, which should we do? Should we come in? She said, take a bath see if they calm down your. Contractions you know, and then we'll meet up a little later. So about one in the morning on Friday, she woke up contractions intensified her husband said you know we need to get going She had five contractions about two minutes apart from here to the truck they got in the truck and they're flying in the truck trying to get to I think at this point trying to get to the to the hospital or maybe was the burning center, but they're flying they're flying. To the point where whereas it her husband couldn't dry fast enough because she was because he was like, what do I do over? She's like just keep driving they pulled off of US eighty nine near South we drive. The next contraction came she started to come out the baby. So we pulled over ran across to her side. Finished delivering her he just basically caught her so they had had I think four kids. I. Think this is Fifth Kit Oh that one walked down that you hear that when you're right when when mom's after they have had a couple kids whatever they just like fall out this little kid fell out in the father literally caught the baby yeezy. So we said he was terrified. Yeah. But I mean everybody's doing okay now but that made the news and probably made national is because usually those stories make national. So set that assault congratulations to the family and. Let's just came in imagine in that situation. For that fatherly oh no. When he was there, he literally caught a like popped out. What's crazy I'm from the. F. One fifties. The passenger seat and he ran around caught just in time. Do you tell? Me Messy map but that thing up for sale. and. Then this is something that one of our listeners Christie passed over and I didn't see it until she passed the story over. So I guess it was a holiday guy a guy in holiday was just arrested on Friday. So it sounds like he hasn't had hasn't lizzy had not applied for or obtained an exotic animal permit or dangerous animal permit since twenty seventeen. So it was a sting that they were looking to I think catch either this guy or people like this. So they were trying to buy some snakes like baby was Burmese pythons and they found that this do had how many did he have in his house? He had twenty Burmese pythons. Ten of them were over ten feet. They were all just roaming around the house they weren't in. They weren't in tanks or cages or anything they were just roaming around the house can't even I can't even go there like visually like my I can't. I'm thinking. Because those things that's the thing with snakes kill you they will they get out they get out. Yeah, and that's that's big. I could have been. You know we've heard those stories and there was one in holiday not too long. Well, a couple of years ago somebody lost a snake you member for. I don't even know if they found it, but it was a huge pet I got out and who knows what it's probably dead founded but don't they be friends you and then kill you don't do that. Don't they just big those are really big snakes that they can just you know get a small animal kids and right I could kill them. And then this is kind of a trip for two thousand twenty doesn't surprise me and I've actually heard about these types of caterpillars but I didn't realize never heard of the an I don't know how you pronounce it. If it's if it's poss- because it's spelled P. S. or Puss, right it could be either or but that's the caterpillar. That's the that's the name of this caterpillar and their venomous caterpillars and they're throughout the United States I, think it's more in the northern. States so I'm not sure if we have them out this way but I do know that there are caterpillars that are poisonous and this posture puss Caterpillar. That they're saying, it's they're finding them in Virginia so like the State of Virginia putting out warnings because usually they're not they're not found that far south they're usually north. But. They're warning people don't pick them up because they can cause like fevers vomiting rash. These things are pretty pretty gnarly. After the pandemic so according to this survey, one out of three people say when it's all over, they should be able to wear slippers in the office. Okay. People in this building we're doing that they really were like you know what? I. Don't care how that's ridiculous. Can't wear like you know just normal shoes slots. That are leaving their homes and their pajamas Pajama bottoms and stuff and this year for the people especially since it's what forty five degrees outside as the weather gets colder and colder do you find it harder and harder to drag your butt out of bed? Right? Most people do well, it's not your fault. That's a real thing and they're saying it's due to science science. So according to this new study, it's harder to get our brains to wake up and activate when it's cold outside. So I mean I, it's a real thing. So the colder when it gets colder, it's hard to get out of bed I get like angry and Mike. You've been listening to the Ninety One v HD Frankie and just show podcast right here on iheartradio. So. Before we get into, tell us something good. We'll go around the room just the two of US Kylie's out. She took Friday and today off she got married on Saturday. It was a nice wedding beautiful So yeah, would you do over the weekend? Let's see after the show on Friday and my girlfriend Heather Monte came over and we just did Little Cafe Rio on the porch little jordache little picnic and then Friday night. So my hubby was not feeling good over the weekend he had a cold and we're supposed to center theater to see Gosh what is it called? I can't even think of something quartet million. Dollar Court Chad or something thank you and I was stoked to see that. So it was like buddy holly keep saying buddy holly allow was Elvis and it was Carl And it was Johnny Cash Jerry Lee Lewis and it just was sun records and showing how these Phillips. Yes. How artists got their start and I've seen a lot of productions at hill and every single one. I've walked away with my mind blown. That was next level that was next level, the energy and everybody socially distanced. We wore masks the whole time. That cast I mean me I ended up taking my best he ashley she was my she was my under studies. It's getting sick. And we were just I mean everybody was on their feet and cheering and it ended up being like a concert within a play. It was so brilliant. So how many of the cast members were they all playing like Carl Perkins? Yes. Elvis yes who else Jerry Lewis and then who was the fourth one johnny cash on Capitol Yeah. So those are all the that's that's kind of cool because that goes with growing up. My Dad was a big fan of of. That genre of music in I was probably the only seven or eight year old kid that new. You know who all those guys were and then some that were on the Sun Records Label Sam Phillips There in Memphis I thought of you the entire time you can see this thought it'd be maybe taking your mom because I was like Oh God i. Wish He could take his dad to this because I thought of the two of you when I was sitting there. It was incredible. It was my favourite. Hale Hands Down I could not stop humming the tunes I couldn't stop thinking about all weekend. Even my friend Ashley was just like that was the best one I've ever seen. Oh that's cool. So you will love it it's called million. Dollar Quartet. Okay. Yeah. It was. So there was another Gal in there as well, and I can't think of her name right now and I feel really bad. She was Elvis's girlfriend at the time. Okay. But it was so good. If you love music music history if you, I mean these these actors have incredible voices. You felt like you were transformed you know and these are the the records and the music that my grandparents would. Share with me and that I grew up with and it was just really cool to to see that it just felt like we were living in history I actually have. So some records. My Dad gave me on the Sun Records Label I have Carl Perkins Doing Blues because he wrote wrote Blue Suede shoes. So I actually have that on the on the action I. Mean it's the original on the Sun Valley who got to see this able. He kinda come back over he comes at Alvis for still in Song I mean, that's all in there. You would love it. So hail once again, just brilliant on Saturday Yeah. Just kind of chilled out and had Kylie's wedding. We had so much fun. All of us were there on Saturday night it was beautiful. She was you know her she's so good about researching and she wanted make sure everything went off without a hitch and it did it was like one of the best weddings ever who she? She. She did this whole wedding by herself I think PR- primarily took it head on like in just in did this it was it was beautiful. It was a nice wedding. The vows were were were beautiful on both sides with Danny and Kylie and whether we were a little worried about that because of the wind. Yeah. Turn on that storm that was coming in it wasn't anything big but we weren't sure what it was gonna be and yeah, it was really nice. It was a nice evening so. You and Tammy our boss and friend Jeff. It was an AJ Katie are awesome tech here and it was just it was incredible. It was in backyard and draper is like an Acre and just every detail just. It's such a good job -gratulations going up to them. They were glowing. It was so cute. He was I'll choked out by Danny was of almost. Fainted. Yeah. Because I was watching him and I was like breathe man breathe they can don't lock your knees don't lock your knees. So he yeah, he had to kind of walk away and then come back and I could tell he was trying to work on his breathing and then after the ceremony I talked to him was having problems like getting the breathing down us. I'm like, do I could tell I see it on your face have. Been There I. Remember what it was like I remember the advice that somebody gave me in. That is do not lock your knees don't lock your knees because a lot of grooms pass out. Yeah. True. They were so cute though and they're such a good couple. They're such a good couple then Sunday let's he went to church yesterday and went out to lunch with some friends. Now that's about it. How about you? Not Very busy. The weekends like an orange baby landed short. That's what you do every weekend busy busy weekend. Of course happy to this is funny like. I, need a a weekend after weekend. See what do we do on Friday? So my wife Tammy and I and my Ma we went to we took my moss. It was a birthday gift from my ma when her birthday was what August, twenty seven. So it was a as a reading from a medium. So psychic medium. So we went to that on Friday that was up in park city very cool experience. Yeah. School experience So we did that and then let's see what we we grab some dinner on. The way home and then on Saturday got up. So my wife Tammy went and helped her ma endowed with a garage sale. So they they did that and then I got up and and just kinda did some stuff because I wasn't sure what this you know I know the the weather's changing winter's coming. So I had to do some stuff in the garage and kind of get some stuff straightened out because we got rid of this shed in our backyard like this big dilapidated shed that had been there since we bought the house. So we had that kind of demolished and removed a couple of weeks ago. So had to get you know some of the stuff that was in that and find room for it in the garage which there is no room in the garage. So for a couple of hours was just kind of cleaning stuff up and you know out and getting that all straightened up so Did that and then let's see Tammi in actual got home trying to think what do we do on Saturday? Oh Yeah. We got ready for the wedding and then did the wedding Kylian Danny's wedding that was nice and then Let's see Sunday. We just went and did some last minute Halloween decorations shopping yes we did that and just did some stuff around the house. Played. Some hockey Saturday or Sunday morning with Axel he loves his loves hockey. So we all we're GONNA get him in like There's a hockey thing coming up next month and it's like a an hour class and we're GONNA see how he likes it but he's excited. So we're we've enrolled him in that get him like skating and just because he's really good. He's got a good wrist shot I can handle the puck and on the younger you start them with sports and stuff they. Don't have any fear I. Think they're better and I was thinking about you. You were just saying with the whole son record saying with your dad that's going to be Axel Dude. He's going to be talking about rush and all these other bands and then Halen that kids his age won't really know about it's kind of Cute I. Don't know if he and he might have overheard us talking about Eddie van. halen dying because we didn't really come out I haven't come come out to him and say, you know Eddie died and we haven't even told him that near Neil pert died in January. So, I think I don't know if he's overheard but you know we were listening to some Van Halen and the car the other day over the weekend and he was in the back just on Eddie van he. Andy Van Halen because everybody's hearing that you know people in the radio talking even Halen's he's is Kinda. Funny. But anyway so that was the weekend. It was pretty good quick weekend felt like it went pretty quick through. All right. Let's get into this here. It's time for you to share some good news if you've got good news like Highly Indiana married and. Was a nice wedding, right so hopefully, ears was If you had a wedding over the weekend, it was good winning as far as the weather went. It seemed like it was pretty good in the diaper area. Yeah. Give me. It's the wind calm down God. But what is it as far as good news that you want to share with us at eight, hundred, four, five this hobbies down fifteen pounds after just three weeks on Kito. So. Proud of you curtis This one said after not having a secure job for about two and a half months I started working I'm going to start working my fulltime job tomorrow relief that I'll have a fixed income during the craziness of twenty twenty. That's good. I found were expecting a rainbow babies. So it's awesome Let's see. We just had our second grandbaby. Grandkids are the best of the best gifts you can give him back. The parents you know your kids and say, Hey, here you go. Kids here pumped him full sugar. The next Friday and there are lots of toys. Husband had a good payoff with stocks that I secret hate that he does, but we were able to pay off credit cards. So Gay, that's awesome. Huge after toxic relationship and take time that I needed to get my life back on track found my soulmate and I'm so in. Love. So that's exciting. Brothers successfully proposed his girlfriend on Saturday boy was than I thought to get fifteen people to open their jackets at the same time. All cute. On video. I bet they did I want to see that I wonder if somebody was got an order. To spell things. That's funny. Even though let's see something lined up able to happen I was still able to give my wife an awesome adversary considering covid put us in a tight spots This week is fall break in this teacher needs it two days of school and then five days off. So that's cool and then this text eight, hundred, four, five headed to park city. This weekend for a girl's trip, keep it low key due to Cova. But so so excited keep your whole home running like clockwork from the office to the game room with xfinity Internet you'll get the best in home wifi experience with reliable speed and coverage now that simple easy awesome go online or call one, eight, hundred xfinity today to learn more restrictions apply. Ninety seven one DHT's Franken Jess. Show podcast here on iheartradio. Seven twenty it's ninety, seven one. Salt. Lake's number one hit music station with Frankie and Jessica an iheartradio station. Welcome to Monday. It's going to be sunny about seventy today tomorrow seventy-five and it sounds like mid sixties by Wednesday forty five get up right now. So apparently, the average American says it's GONNA take seven months to pay off the credit card debt they built up since the. Beginning of the pandemic. So. We've got pay your bills coming up in forty minutes here chance for your when a thousand bucks to try to help out in that area. So you gotta listen when you hear the keywords, you WanNa text them to two, hundred, two, hundred. So we've got twelve chances weekdays. We brought it back a week ago with your bills so. And then speaking of which coming up in twenty minutes we're going to get to this who in your life is bad with money. Is it you or somebody close to you? So who in your life is bad with money, we'll get to some more of the tell us something good tax. Maybe right before that in about twenty minutes, we're going to jump into the middle addition Hollywood headlines this morning for your Monday and it's brought to you by looks like Reproductive Care Center are. Very, cool and we're GONNA people keep asking for an update. So we're going to restart the stuff in January. I'm doing all your river stuff right now just because yeah, I get discussing health stuff going on and I got to be healthy in order to make a healthy baby. So I gotTa Take Care Mama before I can start all that stuff. So we're going to restart with our C. in January that's exciting Okay. So Paris Hilton. So she was here on Friday Frankie passed over the story and about a hundred people gathered at pro park on Friday afternoon and not all of them went to Provo Canyon school per se. But they were in types of same types of facilities in Utah and a lot of people come here because Utah is known as a place where a lot of the troubled teen industry is huge here. And so she had people there and they gathered and they talked about the Miss Mistreatment, the abuse and Paris owed you have the clip? nope. Just have the clip from the PSA that that ran right after her docu series started. So rear that okay. So she said today I'm not here is Paris Hilton. I'm here's another survivor who's been abused and you know has lived that abuse since I laughed and so I'm dedicated to shutting down Provo Canyon School and hopefully that a chain-reaction in this industry. So like I said, Utah has a ton of these youth resident like treatment centers and they talked about stripping down, they had to strip down in front of strangers in the program that they. Were taught they were bad and unworthy that they saw staff members sexually abusing children in their care. So they did the silent march past Provo Canyon Schools boy campus on Friday, and Paris is parents sent her here when she was seventeen because she was sneaking out to go to parties she ended up being a resident there for almost a year. It was eleven months. This was in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight wasn't it? Ninety seven, ninety yeah. So she said they were either getting yelled at or hit and it was all day long it was relentless I mean basically, these parents are like, okay. We don't know what to do with our kids. They're out of control it's beyond our control. So you know maybe we're going to send him to this place so they can get help and they can help reform them because obviously we're not qualified and then just abuse next level and here's the clip that I'll rear it for the people that missed it. So the PSA that that basically ran after her docu series hit one week or two ago, pledge to advocate for all the survivors and put all my effort into a forming the industry to ensure that no more children are harmed by these for profit companies helped me prevent future generations survivors by signing this important petition. This'll be the first upward taking towards positive social change this petition. The beginning, I am so proud to be breaking code silence. We believe that shutting down Provo Canyon school the domino effect we need to effect real change we need your help he's still in town or or what on Friday? Where did she stay? Yeah all those questions that go through my mind here's where does he stand wondering probably the Grand Labatt place we ask wants to get these places shut down and you know we've talked about over the years. A lot of celebrities would send their kids here for reform you know like Rosie o'donald. Daughter was here at one time for reform and she said, you know a lot of these places enjoy hurting children, and so the parents are paying and saying, Hey, I'm signing this waiver Kinda do whatever you gotta do to get this kitten shape and you know kids were naked. They would watch them as they showered. Lot of kids were overmedicated. She's I mean it's just like a torture camp is what she's saying and just you know she was there like I said just under a year. Could you imagine? Could you imagine we don't happen coupes? Thirteen, just barely thirteen year boy is four. And so it's hard to. Fast Seventeen and they're out of control and you don't know what to do when you think that you're sending him to a school that's going to help them. It really is just full on abuse. You're you're paying for your child to be abused. Hope never we're never in that situation, right? Oh. For the families that you know like, Gosh. Part of the seems and you know I, don't know I just feel for. The families going through that sad man and that, and that's the thing like I. Don't know they. They're like, Oh, it's boarding school what's abuse and then Chris and Cavalry so she's on the prowl of course she jay. Cutler are estranged at this point they're going through the divorce proceedings. So you're not even divorced and you're on the problem we should. She shouldn't be on the prowl with the Oh totally until it's finalized until they agree the. Hot just well, it just doesn't. If I'm a dude and it's like Oh, yeah, it's kristen cobbling. You're still not divorced just reeks disaster true right true disaster written all over it but if you think about it because I've always been of that school as well like, Hey, just wait till the ink is dry and then you move on with your life like work on yourself while you're getting divorced and estranged and all that. But I think about all the. Listeners talked to over the years that have been going through divorce proceedings for like three years. Five years. What did not for that long? You know so I guess there's always an exception to the rule, right? But Christie Cavalry is pretty knew that her J. have separated. It's been a few months I think at least but she was smooching comedian a you know more of the comics than I do but do you know Jeff? Jeff Die Yeah Yeah we know that guy in fact we had died I think on our show years ago I I think let me let me. So he doesn't last comic standing somebody. That's why we had him on and then he's hosted a couple of MTV's shows psyched I guess over the weekend she why is it okay I she was spotted he's an American comedian it says on the wikipedia but. She was spotted making out with him over the weekend and so people are like, Oh Dang. So they're like, okay she went from football player. Funny Guy. So let's see here late thirties he's thirty seven Donald think we did have him on now he's cute. He's really cute. There's a picture of him. Yeah. They're making out over the weekend. So people were talking about that we're like, oh, she's moving on. Watch out man. He's moved on a while ago. Her, what did she say? She hadn't been in love with him for two years or something. A little dig. Yeah. She's I, don't she's like girls here. I've never been love them or I haven't been well in love with them for years. It was something like that along those lines. It's like that's nice. That's that's what you WANNA say in an interview I know so tacky but there's a picture of you scroll down on the Hollywood headlines page of Franken just dot com there's one I think she was on a sailboat or something she's got a White Thong Bikini on I was like Oh Dang. Posted it. She looked awesome and then okay this is crazy because we heard a report and it was obviously false was obviously a rumor and we were talking about Joe and Teresa from real housewives of Jersey and how they were back together that they took apart they I didn't believe this totally dentist totally just doesn't make sense. Together for the kids. For the kid there's like, this is ridiculous. It doesn't make sense because he's not allowed to come back here and he stuck in Italy and they're not going anywhere because of the money the real housewives of money they're not gonNA. Leave. Jersey. You're right and so I was like Oh, my gosh. Absence makes. The. Harker. Falling right into it. So what's the real story was? So Joe's in Italy. Of course, like you said, and he's dating somebody. So he talked to Wendy Williams virtually think last week revealed he's dating an attorney and he said I wouldn't say she's my girlfriend but we're definitely hanging out and she's putting together some deals for me. So it's like well, what are you using this girl? Yes. So so greasy, she would probably say you're her boyfriend. Is. Yeah. He's appeal s that to really is. So he said he was moving on and Theresa Guess is really happy for him. There's no bad blood. They definitely had a history together they together for like over twenty years for girls and so he said it came down to distance. He said I have to be in Italy she's Jersey there's no way we were. Going to move the family over to Italy, especially with the girls they've they're you know they're in their extracurricular activities, they like their school friends that that's their house they've grown up in. So he said I didn't want to rip them from their life and so long distance to different countries wasn't going to work. It's not like going from Jersey to Tennessee. Jersey. Taxes I mean, this is a completely different country. Yup. So He's moved on and I theresa moved on a long time ago. Didn't you have a pool boy? Yeah. Well, they pool boy who was rate around I. Think he's maybe just a little younger than Shit. So they have a history and I think even dated back in the eighties or something like that. So he is a pool boys, it's not like he's twenty. Dude. That was the one where they were rumors of her hooking up with that guy. He was around the same age or younger. Now I was like, Oh, a little younger, but maybe a couple of years. Let's do this story. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Someone Sandwich and some. Sheehan Jenner stuff. 'cause I've been really good about not putting it in but there are a lot of stuff going on. So Kim Kardashian, she donated a million to help people caught up in the conflict and Armenia and she's been You know asking her siblings to also donate some money as well because she donated a million which was awesome and then leaving talking about Kylie. Jenner. So she's the youngest of the kids and they said she had four hundred face-lift i. mean this is what twenty two, the self made billionaire. Saying that loosely totally the one the billionaire. Yeah. Nothing's loose on this early everything's tight. We procedures done yeah. They're saying she had a facelift and then Khloe. Okay. We Know Khloe has transformed quite a bit. She's had a lot of work done I think she looks great. I've always thought Khloe is beautiful. No matter what. But they're calling her out and saying she's getting the beyond safe face that if you look at photos and I'll try and see if I can post because it's really iffy about certain photos you can post but with Khloe they're saying she's totally trying to look beyond. Say, and so twitter was calling her out over the weekend and saying like how dare you you're totally trolling beyond say you're trying to look like her here's the photo right here were they say that she really and she has a lot of bronze on just the way she's doing her hair and her eyebrows her nose is different. You know she's yeah. They're like she is totally trying to become beyond say why isn't anybody freaking out about the old Khloe that we can't and haven't been able to find. Nobody's flipping out over that because this isn't really this isn't Khloe I know. Upsets wasn't twitter flip about that. Post a picture like an original of what you know. Old Khloe. Look like Thanou Khloe. It's so different. Yeah. Because it's not the same person it's not why aren't we looking for the old blowing? Somewhere tied up. No know there's different opt to see because I saw something today and it had like one of those collages where it had four photos and look at that right there that doesn't even touch that doesn't look like. This is you saying they're all touched up that's how that's way touched up I'm just saying that doesn't look anything like the old Khloe I've really. As in why? Why twitter flips out about stuff flipping out about this is true. But nobody's flipping out about like years ago when that transformation took place cold-case man nobody could find the real Khloe. But yes so check it out. That's the photo they're talking about like she is a wannabe beyond say so yeah, I'll have to find the WANNABES men I know I know but I do love him. I do love him I. Don't know why. They have a soft spot in my heart and then coming up next hour we gotta stick around. This is a crazy story with Tatum O'Neal. So of course, she you know has been a childhood actress and now she's an adult and she struggled with drugs and alcohol and stuff like that. So there is an update on something that went down over the weekend that was sad and thank God. She's Ok haven't heard that name of forever now. Struggling with stuff that I take it. She was doing good Let's see. Last time we talked about her was like two thousand and eight, and she was trying to score some drugs and then she's been sober from what I've heard for a long time since that incident and then something happened over the weekend I'll tell you the scoop on that. Look at this on What does twitter are he works for our sister station company bobby bones got engaged. We did yeah. They said what does it Lebron wasn't the only one to get a ring this weekend So yes. So bobby bone congrats to him. We all have different tastes in music some of us like hip-hopping some of US liked vapor wave. 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This one said I sent a text message a couple of weeks back about getting this conditional job as a nine one one dispatcher. So kind of like a trial basis you know and she said, she got here she got the final job offer and the first day is next week congratulations. Posted, yeah, that's really neat. hobby was hunting. Let's see how he is hunting with dad his once in a Lifetime Buffalo. That's cool. father-in-law has my mother-in-law who passed away her seventeen year old Dash Hound. She walked away from Camp and was lost for twenty one hours overnight in the cold. She's got bad hips back good news. They found her alive several miles from camp and she's going to be okay. Thank God. So the mother in law passed uh-huh. Okay yeah sorry. So the father in law has has his wife's dog seventeen the mother-in-law ended up passing away but the dog is, yeah seventeen years old got away from camp in bad hips and was several miles from Camp Holy. Crap God. Jesus, been here about a lot of dogs I get out of the cabins or the camps and just ought socks those little wiener. That's not the dog that you wanted to be out in the wilderness like a little dog like that. That's like a snack. Wildlife you know you're right. You've. Got Her or him on whether he or she didn't say, Oh, wait maybe it maybe a girl. Good. All right. Let's let's get into this. So. This is one of the sounds like stats with the pandemic in they're talking about one of the good things I guess silver lining we talk about that there silver linings and everything. It's making people more responsible with their money as far as just kind of going through with what we're going through and having to reevaluate things like your money depending on your situation. I. Mean if you're getting hours cut back or whatever it's just I think. With everything that's going on in two thousand twenty people are just looking at their money differently you know when they're a little bit more cautious of it and aware of where it's going that sort of thing. So we WANNA throw it out. We haven't done this in a bit. It's been probably years but who listening right now who in your life listening right now is bad with money. So who is it in your life? That's bad with money. ME. Yes I've always I. Mean I'm a lot better obviously because I'm in my forties now. So what is it like? Where are you now like where are you bad with your money whereas it? I don't know if it's now. Yeah, I don't know it depends I. Mine's like an emotional thing right? It's a crutch for me. It's one of my vices the what is it like? What is it? That's bad about it I think I have a tendency. I'm not good with budgeting that's the root of it. I don't like the word budget right? Just like the word Diet. Those are bad words to me. So I'd like I'd like to go into T.j Maxx and spend what I want to spend I don't want to say like, okay I'm only going to spend fifty bucks here because I'm Like no what if I find something? That's like really great and have to spend seventy bucks. So budgeting is like the root of my evil for me do you budget though is that now? Kevin Budgets US okay. Yeah, I am not so do so you don't stick with it though so it sounds like I have my own account. So like I like we have our joint account and then I have my own Lake Mary Kay Account. So that's like my money my spending money. So what's the budget for like I don't understand like if you're the budget for life? Right for bills and everything like he sets like our marital budget for like savings. A car payments, all that kind of stuff. But like when it comes to shopping I'm just not good with like a budget. So I like to spend what I want to spend but that's why I kind of have my own account separate. So do you have an idea of what goes out every month with your spending or now because it's hit or miss like there's some weeks where all go to I'm not joking about the teacher. F-. Lived there. So some weeks I'll go there once a week and get new stuff all the time. That's the thing that's. But then sometimes I'm a month. So it's very like cigarette. Yeah it's not consistent with me. Right. It's right down. So you know at least like where you're because it sounds like. Chase. Bank. You don't even have an idea of what is being spent like week two weaker right David. Week. That's my fun money account. So I yeah I. Don't watches closely as the account with being CAV. So yeah but I. I don't like to to budget or my oh y'all justify anything. It's somebody's birthday a half to get you I. Am all about birthdays. It's my love language. So right who in your life right now is bad with money as it used your spouse Tell us you know how bad it is and give us an example of that. Trying to keep it a shortage, you can eight to nine four five is the short code. You can call us eight, O one, five, seven, one, nine, seven, one if you want. Ninety seven one DHT's Frankie and just show podcast here on iheartradio. Mentioning, this what little bit ago it takes the average American it's going to take the average American seven months to pay off the credit card debt that they built up since the beginning of the pandemic So we are talking money and trying to help you out with that, and then like a silver lining with the pandemic with the survey about eighty, eight percent of the people said that they've re reevaluated. Their spending habits this year because of the pandemic. So that's the silver lining with it, and that's kind of where we're at with this topic, and that is who in your life is really bad with money like really bad with it as it use at your spouse maybe it's your parents but somebody's really bad with it and give us an example of how bad you are or they are at eight, hundred, four, five. Fiance awful with money the has it burns a hole in his pocket. He can't save to save his life I dude I grew up that way my sister would save we get allowance or money, for Christmas, or birthdays and Mike. Let's go to the store and how how is she now is she saver still the same say this is and and I were talking about this because I saw her for her fortieth birthday a little over a week ago and I am the person that will buy a lot of little things right that add up to a big amount and she'll do like A. Lot of research and she'll do a big purchase a long-term purchase. That's worth the value I'm just like, let me just go pick out a bunch of TD. That's funny. This is an awful with money I spend it as fast as I can Let's see I'm horrible with money but since the pandemic started I've been trying to watch my money can't budgets and all goes to car parts going out to places every weekend. But since me and the wife had bought a house and may I tried to control myself and that's true too if you have a big purchase coming. Up like a car or House, you're like, okay I gotTa, stop spending what I don't need a spent. You gotta be aware to if you have kids in your, you fall into this you want to pass because that's a lot of times. That's where you know with these stories comes from the parents like how they were with money. That's Kinda usually passed down how you are. You know it could work in the Like if they were really bad and now you're you know you kind of broke the cycle because you don't WanNa be in that situation. So you're good with your money but it's it's it's a learned thing. Yeah. Especially like in the environment you grow up in and if you've got that in, you don't really know any different that's that's your takeaway and that's kind of how you are. We have our little boy. So he's four and a friend. Lee, bought him this this bank. So it's broken down in thirds like there's three little things on it. And it's one four was to to save the others to spend and the others to give. So when he gets money, we break it down and thirds and he actually just took six bucks from it yesterday because we he he was he made some money and he put a third of that. So the six dollars that he was able to spend on himself, he took it to the well, he didn't go to the store. My wife Tammy, took him to the store yesterday and he had a chance to pick out something all by himself and But yeah. We're trying to teach him. You know this this to save, and then that part goes there to give you know it's for charity and for people that need it. You know something that you know somebody that's a little less fortunate or you just want to give it to you know some good causes. Sure. So we're trying to teach him young at smart because again like if you've got some really bad spending habits are bad bad money habits, you don't WanNa pass that stuff on your kids. Thank God for Kevin Because he's much better that he's better about helping coop with that but I but I think we're still it's hard to be consistent. How did you grow up as far as money with your parents? So my mom so my mom will say and she's the she's like the spender and my dad was to saver so I I kinda gotta guess the they were because we didn't have a whole lot I mean we didn't have a lot of money. I think looking back at my Mom and Dad I. DO remember you know the put a lot of stuff on credit cards and I think that kind of caught up with them but my dad was a saver. So get my my dad was the the saver in that relationship my mom not so much and I think you know they had regrets may be some of their money. Styles. Okay. You know over the over the years, but my dad was pretty good about it. So I might take away is that I save and I think I'm probably along more like your sister by a lot of little things I might save up just get something every once in a while like a bigger purchase not like crazy big. But yeah, I'm pretty good at at saving an and Tammy like her dad is a saver and I think her mom is the. Spender. So it's the same thing. You know it's the same dynamic and she's she's really good with her money Oh. That's cool. She's a she's a saver and you know she's she's a bargain hunter and she will you know if she can help it. She's not painful price for stuff. That's what I love and she's you know she's always looking for and she's got her little things that she does to save money. That's Cool I. Love that there's on said I'm horrible with. Money but hopes we did that one this one said, how can I suck bills are always paid? I and savings what is that? So they're paying stuff on time, but they don't have a savings. This one that I'm terrible with money especially, my early twenties I ran up debt when into collections filed for bankruptcy. Now that I'm thirty I'm working on rebuilding the credit I have savings now it's hard but I'm working on every day you know this when somebody? Mother is the only one Let's see. She's horrible with money. So spend just to spend on stupid stuff and that certain things need to be taken care of, and they're not because she's so to have the money. So she's spending your money on what should really be taking care of money on boy My mom constantly broke wanting to borrow money for me and then gives me a sob story never pays me back I couldn't even imagine your parents like. Begging you for money she you know even and there's people that I know that that fall right into that or their parents. Yeah and then it's to the point where the parents are taking advantage of the kid. It's horrible. I guess too much. But this is a friend of mine and his MOM will call and it's it's not just the one time multiple times I can't pay my rent. I don't know money for groceries. I don't have money for gas, but then you know shop online and cheese. That's you get spends it all on other stuff sit down with that parent and they were putting on a budget because he was just that's the thing you whoever that is in your life with a parent or child or a friend, you just enabling it. Just enable that behavior. You're right. You're right this on said Let's see. It's my husband. He's an impulse buyer we pay something he thinks where else can we spend that payment we were paying and if he knows, we have money in savings, he'll find something that we need for burns a hole in his pocket. Parents are bad with money growing up had two houses foreclosed on multiple cars repossessed. I knew that I didn't want to live like that I have five grand and savings while awesome. Yeah. How these horrible with money we don't even share checking account and the mortgage loan is a my name only and that's crazy to over the years we've talked about that. Were you know the spouse whether it was the male or female was you know just spending their money and all of a sudden they showed up like, Hey, we're taking your house because they weren't paying the mortgage that were. Whatever I have a friend that that happened to yeah they were just Kinda live beyond their means and he was handling the finances and she thought everything was fine until it was exactly that the bank came knocking kind of the house went into foreclosure. My God it was classic living beyond the means and it's not like they were you know flying around the world or anything like that, but they were just living beyond their means. Yeah it was scary Robin from Peter to give the Paul and just all caught up with him This one said I'm the one that's bad with money I make pretty good money, but I'm always broke because it can't save it to save my life I grew up with nothing as a kid parents weren't poverty. So I have a problem you know buying clothes and shoes now as an adult I, can't help it so it's wanting to look good right Feel good. This one said me I'm forty, two, three bankruptcies in my life. How gives me allowance now and does the Budget and I remember I told you this before and I'll tell you who it is off the air. But my friend overheard her parents talking when she was younger about not having enough money and they you know she comes from four kids and that like shook her to the course she thought Oh no, we're not gonNA be able to have food like just especially as a kid, you're everything so magnified right and so yes, she is. She's a penny pincher to this day like she's probably got fifty grand and savings and no debt in which is awesome. But yeah, she's afraid to. Spend money now this point because overhearing that parent conversation like everything in your life that you're dealing with it all routes from your childhood stuff so that the relationship you have with money, it's interesting especially, if you fall into this and you're really bad with money or somebody close to his really bad with money, it's worth kind of stripping it away figuring out why you have that relationship at least you're aware of it and then you can you know it's one step closer to fixing it through because if you just like well, that's the way I am but I mean it's like. Therapy. When you start uncovering stuff about yourself, you're like Oh and it just makes sense and it makes it easier. If you want to fix things if you WanNa, you know correct behaviors to know where that behavior comes from. Yeah it's on Saturday that happened to me. I, have a Mary Kay training. Center. I've had for years and we're not going to have that building anymore and so I was kind of cleaning that cupboard on Saturday and just a lot of emotions a lot of good memories and things and sad that I'm losing that property because we decided not to renew and. I left the training center and I was sad and I was like I wanna go spend money right now to make myself feel better and then the other internal voice said, no, you don't need to spend money. You don't need anything interest and I went home but it was therapy that helped me kind of like sort through that know where that's coming from power that it was just something trying to fill a hole in avoid and not be sad. Keep all your entertainment options centered with extremely x access live TV, Netflix's and now Hulu Peacock. Earnings now that's simple. Easy. Awesome. Go online or call one, eight, hundred, xfinity today restrictions apply Netflix Hulu and pick up memberships acquired breezy. You've been listening to the ninety seven one. Frankie and Jeff Show podcast right here on iheartradio. Forty eight as you get up right now. So in twenty minutes, we're GonNa get to this topic you were wronged years ago you're still not quite over it. So after all these years, we're going to give you a chance to vent about whatever it was. We'll tell you why we're talking about that. Before that, we've got some bad with money texts. So who in your life is bad with money so we'll get to those in just a little bit. We're going to jump into the late edition of Hollywood headlines this morning and it's brought you by Hebrew valley. Utah's backyard playground sounds we made a we made an appointment to do the the PUMPKIN train. Valley Railroad. Yeah. So that's GONNA be coming up. We'll be doing that probably next week. How Fun? Yeah this is a lot. We love it up. There you Jan. My friend and the wedding on Saturday Kylian Danny's wedding and she was like, Oh, I didn't have a chance to tell Frankie that her I think it's her son lives up in Hebrew. Lives up there and she said I know how much Frankie Lebron? So her son is married with two little ones and then I think her daughter lives out of the country. But yes, she's like Oh Nixon, we see Frankie. I gotTa talk to him about Hieber that's awesome and So Danny and Kylie. So they got married on Saturday and they actually spent Saturday night at homestead. Up there in Hebrew or midway and yeah and then the next day they were asking about a place to do brunch and I told him about the corner restaurant and I guess they're doing some maintenance as far as I think remodeling. So they were closed. So they didn't have the Sunday brunch and then they said well here, try the midway mercantile and they do brunch. And I think I'm not sure after we're does bruns you're not, and then they said they just went to the spin cafe in Hebrew, which is right there in Maine and she said it was first time that we've ever been in and they had a great time. It's good food man. Some great restaurants and stuff up there. That's cool. Okay. So tatum O'Neal, also she allegedly was suicidal over the weekend, which is really sad she lives in l. a. and she is the youngest still the youngest actress ever to win an academy award and so she's been in that scene and been an actress for years and years you know since she was a kid or dad has Ryan yes Ryan O'Neal rape and he was with Fair Faucet. So yeah, they've been in the scene she was I remember watching a movie when I was a kid it was probably probably too young to watch it but it's called little foxes. So it had tatum O'Neal think Christie macnichol was in it, and then some other chicken it was just kind of one of those teen movies but I was I was young. It was late seventies was probably seven or eight probably too young to be watching. And I remember her I was a big fan of her you know as I. She she was hot. No, he was older. You know she's a little older than I am so sh yeah. I. Remember seeing her when I was a kid and oh. Yeah. But Machine Machinery McEnroe and had kids with John, McEnroe? Right? Yeah. So she battled drug problems after separating from him and they got separated I think back in ninety two. How old are the kids? Oh Gosh. Third probably in their twenties thirties and she struggled over the years of addiction and stuff like that. So I guess what happened was she over this past weekend threatened. To jump off her balcony juice. So the cops responded they ended up placing her on a psychiatric hold and you know she's been cleaned for the most part and sober for a while we talked about this earlier that she was arrested in two thousand eight for trying to score drugs. But ever since that all went down and she went to Rehab and things like that that you know they said she'd been okay. But yeah, she's just obviously going through a tough time again Sad does it see how old the killer look in? Let's see? So, this is Sean O'Neil. He looks like he is thirty three Oh. Wow I don't know if they have any other kids but so yeah, parents are tatum John of tatum's older than you are siblings, Kevin Macro Emily, Anna McEnroe and Abe. No are they kids that they've you know are half siblings on the church she's got yeah Emily Sean and Kevin because he's got the three kids. And then she was married to McEnroe from eighty six to ninety four such a long time. She's fifty six she has she looks so good already she's so pretty sucks that you know growing up in that lifestyle. It's and then this is Kylie going gonNA. Love this when she's putting the podcast APP. For us at Frank Dot com she loves logic. She met him backstage. When he was here last time he was in town and he just purchased this Pokemon card. and. It's a first edition I think it's Oh. God, if I say it wrong, my son's GonNa kill me chart I think chart. You're asking the wrong. Okay sounds good to me. I guess on trading cards have skyrocketed in value over the last few years. So back in ninety nine, it became a thing Pok Mon the card had zero value but now you could buy a house for the cost of this card. So logic paid for this first edition Card Two hundred and twenty six K Oma Gosh so much money and then I guess Logan Paul Plunk Down Two Hundred Sixteen K for a base set booster box and so everybody is like trying to get these first edition pokemon trading cards. Yeah. They're worth a lot. He's so funny because people always like made fun of me for my storage, unit Phoenix but I, know there's a lot of treasures in there. Or Not You're paying fifty bucks a month talking about the bad with money. You're saying. Not. An investment no, it's not not unless it pays off and you see the math you've been here fifteen years even paying. Ray, even just give you the benefit of the doubt and say forty bucks a month, but it's it's Ben at least that if not more I think it was forty two when I start paying on the storage now it's like forty eight bucks month money. Pound Puppies What else is in there cabbage patch dolls, barbies my little pony like they're all GonNa pay off for me they're going to be. The reason why this card is so rare for logic it is its shadow Louis. So it meaning the typical shadow on the right side of the art is absent. So that's why it's such a rare find. So the other day like a little boy axel sits saw a picture of a POK Mon.. Or. Not Poking out of What is it to the little yellow character Oh. Yeah. Oh I know what you're talking about yes he saw it and he was like pitcher he was like. Speak you and I was like, do you how do you know pok? Mon and he and he just didn't know. So I don't know like you. You ever watch it or. No. But but that's pitches like. This kid yeah I have no idea. But it's amazing how a marketing around rans and stuff like that and just how these kids know logos or certain characters so true to trip through. Watch it just new. That's crazy and CA- koukoulas I don't know where he's out with the POKEMON I don't think he's really playing it much. He's got some cards I'M GONNA rate has room because mommy wants up Tj Maxx, she's cells car. I'm totally getting and then Phil. Collins looks like he's going to boot out his ex wife. So he said that he owns the property he's tired of her BS. So this is a crazy story we've talked about Phil Collins and his wife and wives this what is third second or third probably but this this is the chick that he's off and on with they've been married numerous times to. Each other I mean, they're toxic man. So she got married to somebody else. Let's see an August. So she'd been married multiple times to and he's like Oh. Cool. Okay. You married somebody else get out of my Florida House. So he asked vacate she refused. So she said to him that okay. If you try and make me leave I'm going to release these embarrassing accusations about you and I want. You to renegotiate our divorce their divorce was in two, thousand eight. So she wants to renegotiate. He's like, no, no, no. No he paid her almost forty seven million dollars in the divorce. So he said I'm not giving her another dime. She has totally spent the money talk about bad with money bad investments and then expensive divorces because she has married multiple dudes after Phil and so now I guess. You change the security codes she's been a jerk to the staff and Phil plans to file the eviction lawsuit. As soon as the courts open up this week today, I think a lot of things are closed for Columbus Day. So they got married check this out in the late nineties two boys together Nicholas Matthew filed for divorce in two thousand and six shortly after the youngest was born and then. She married this Charles Guy and then divorced him to get back with Phil and twenty sixteen. So thinking things were fine up until a couple months ago, and then she ended up marrying another dude named Thomas. So she lied to fill and she's like, I'm just going to go to Vegas for some business she went there to get married to this Thomas Guy. So she's been married I don't know three or four dudes and married to fill twice, and then he's got a lot of wives to so they are just made for each other. Yeah he just does not have. Picking the. Not Good luck with that. Because you remember years ago like a lot of his solo stuff like you know the song I don't care anymore who I don't care I mean that that a lot of that was inspired by one of his Ex's I'm sure. I. Mean it was all so. Maybe. He's just he knows he needs in order to right I gotta have toxic stuff. I got to marry my muse. Had like three of them right he's had like three brutal divorces. Right he spent and that's what he's talking about. The millions of dollars and divorces because like I said just with her her almost forty seven mill. That's so much money. WHO WORKED IN DC before coming here. I. Had a chance to interview him and he was really nice. It was nice. He's a really cool guy that's one of our favorite you and I both went over Labor artists of all time. We've featured him on. TBT, he's just Oh, he's so good him in genesis and all the great and coming up next our nine twenty one to ground we have more tiger king drama and then Kanye is. Trouble because he's been travelling and he's not been doing the fourteen day quarantine like he's supposed to and he's not wearing a mask where he's at and so they could they could lock them up for everything has been doing. So tell you where he's at and what he's been up to, and even his daughter North is with him and she's not wearing a mask either and she's like what? Eight nine idea now holds maybe she seven somewhere around there bs other like you guys need to mask or you need to get out so I'll tell you that scoop at nine twenty. Ninety seven one. Frankie and just show podcast here on iheartradio. Who is bad with their money? So who in your life is bad with money at eight to nine, four, five it just. Kills me like with the payer bills thing. So we got a thousand bucks up for grabs twelve chances weekdays at this, and you know you could put that towards your bills were run up a bills you. We're not. GonNa keep track here for saving or pay bills I'd say. To do whatever you want to do with it, but it was just gonNa say like with the credit card thing that's where like I'll pay my credit card off every month. Yeah. That's good. But then it just you know within a couple of weeks I'm just like. It's so easy and it's the. Dave. Ramsey. Mindset is to just have cash and don't use the car, but it's so much easier. Said than done true with that and boy, those carts can just did they go quick As long as you're paying it off every month like you said, you're doing all right I sicily just. Like. Oh, how did that happen? You kinda go through you know everything's. Digital and online. Now it's easy to looking in keep track stuff but you're just kind of going through like did somebody make a four hundred dollar charge like how did it go up like like four hundred bucks in two weeks Interest buying you know. It's not like a the costco trip. Bro. That's about it. You know half of Costco. Or like you know as far as you know, two hundred bucks, you're not usually that's that's about what it is just under two hundred bucks. Yeah. You're on a costco. So we're talking about in your life who is bad with money that you at eight to nine four, five This is my husband out lunch daily Fortnight V box gas station ten Bucks A. Day He's to be so much better He works hard to makes good money but now he just swipes and goes swipes and goes hundreds of dollars and just makes me Kranj and that's what I'm saying like just with the world that we live in, it's so easy to just swipe whether that's with your card or on your phone like Amazon. That's too easy. Just. White a couple of a couple of. Things and you you have something coming. Yeah. I mean it doesn't even take you four you like, Oh, I got to put my credit card information you just no. Yeah. You just swipe it way. Okay. Place order it's so great. Yeah I mean I love it but then I hate at the same time into dude doesn't mean you can't seem to save any money have a good but always nickel and dime myself `I bucks here ten bucks there at adds up I'm a single mom and I don't get child support so it's expensive. Let's see him horrible with money If the sciences sale is like a Snake Hill on the jungle book is looking at me I pay I pay monthly Let's see I can pay it off each month but I procrastinate lake every six months. So they're just like paying off next time. This is the both of us are bad. We buy what we want if we have money like in two thousand, eighteen or business was doing great. So we bought this new. What does that looks like it's a utd can't. Okay no loan wish you would have used by side. Oh. Is it wish we would have used it to pay down the mortgage and taxes, but just spent it on a toy right of you know something that would put them in the you know better better in the long run I should say those talking to that like a friend of ours has one of those and we were talking about how those things couldn't can be as expensive as a car. Wow. Yeah. They're like in the thirty something thousand dollars. Easily for a new one for the CANAM. Jan Crazy expensive this instead it's me stressful. I don't know why I can't be good with money. I feel like it's legit problem and like you're saying that it is it goes back to your childhood and how your parents were with money and and there's a way to get to the root of that. You know I. Have a friend that I can't say too much because she listens and I think he listens to but they'll get everything paid off and and she's the saver. He's the spender and he will take out like tons of CO workers to launch launches like it's on me or your kids. Always. Footing the bill for stuff or they'll go on vacation with other couples and he's like I got this and he's paying for everything. She was what the F. Are you doing like it drives her while I the her wild like we get everything paid off. We finally start saving again and he just starts racking up and it's just you know paying for other people, which is really kind. Did I get that I like to do that to you like to do that but there's a there's a line with that. It sounds like you're you're trying to get in and put yourself in a financial position, but then you're getting yourself in the whole because you're. Trying to be mister big shot totally totally. So yes, drives her crazy. This unsaid ex-husband was terrible with money. We ended up getting separate bank accounts Let's see when he was done blowing all of his he couldn't touch mine anymore I feel like I'm a super saver and my Hubby suspender and I hate it feels like I always sacrifice and that's what's tough like my best. He's really good with money and so is her husband. They're both really good at saving. But if you have a saver spender, I mean that's radical that spender in you know, right you're going working against each other right this one said Bad. With money what really but I need to learn to say, no, I don't have any children no debt. Let's see. Currently rebuilding my credit but I do spoil my nieces and nephews sounds like. A little bit you know just admitted that's the first step I had to do a do I'm bad with money Let's see. Always had to have name brands as a mother I, want to give my kids the things that I didn't have even if they don't need it and so yeah, she said she didn't grow up with much and so now she's trying to you know give more to her kids than she had in that's getting expensive. Battle with money but in a different way, I lose track of cash months or years later on finally twenty bucks in an old purse ten bucks last season's clothing I pulled up from storage I just discovered a savings account I forgot about with over five hundred bucks in it. I don't spend a lot but I don't save well either. So that's an interesting one. Just Kinda. Don't know where your money is literally. figuratively. How terrible with money I'm in charge of all the bills. So I know everything that's been paid can keep track of Let's see my car's been paid off for a year. He's itching to get newer one at better one sorry bud and it's not a want or need a want not a need it this time and the money from the car payment goes to pay off the student loan who he pulls up a sixty thousand dollar truck he's like, Hey, look at this. Uh. How you like it? Broke. My mom and sister went out to dinner last night. The bill is seventy bucks. She's like here. Here's my car just pay for it me. I'm like, no I'll split it. No, you don't have the money should know just just try it see what see what will. Just, try those are those are words I don't want to hear. You know somebody's wanting to pay for something here. No. Try it just try it how `bout. Let me. Because I've been in that, you know it's so embarrassing when you're just trying I don't know if it's gonNA run or not. Try it like. One let's try this. Do you would you accept a library card? Right. He's All it wasn't. Okay. Here's another. I`Ma Mark, what you don't want to hear from somebody. Let me get it just trying to car. That's funny Let's see this my roommate she blows Oliver paychecks on random buys online that she doesn't even use, and then comes every month asking for her like my help to pay her part of the Bill Oh you're kidding. That good forget anymore we'll share them. We're talking about who in your life is bad with money. So I'm going to set this up now and we'll get to some of the stories with it a little after nine but this is something apparently somebody posted it was a discussion on read it and people sharing their moments when they were wronged in their life like years ago. But it's something that you know I'll give you an example. This is somebody that wrote this and said in fifth grade a science test. It was a science test and and the question was, are there any stars in the solar system and I said, yes, and my teacher marked it is wrong I went up and said what about the son he said he meant all the other stars and kept kept it marked as wrong. He's I'm over fifty years old right now and it still bothers me something like that mean something that you you look back. Something in your life and you're like, yeah, I was wrong and I WANNA vet about. Ninety seven one. Frankie. In just show podcast here on iheartradio. So before we get into what we're talking about, I saw the techs commend we there was a financial adviser that I thought that was kind of interesting. The texted in we were talking people in your life that have problems with money that are bad with money. Maybe it's you and two, nine, four five. So if you're just tuning into the show, that's what we were talking about in the what seven and eight o'clock hours. It kind of makes us out because I'm the spender, my husband's the saver set as a financial adviser. Most people come to me have savings, of course, spending too much and debt or a big problem. But every now and again, a couple of comes in where the sabre controls the money and over and over saves always feel bad for the other spouse being controlled and forced to forego opportunities and enjoyment to appease the sabre. Yeah. It makes sense that's yeah. And I've heard stories where people are in that relationship person that controls the money kind of controls everything with the money and yeah. Yeah Hey taff. Anyway we had a lot of good texts coming in with that topic at eight to nine, four five. So this is something that I guess somebody posted this on read it and they started a. Discussion on Reddit thought it was good and it would be good for I. Mean You know you think back I'm sure there's a timer to you're like, yeah, I never. Really. Got Over it, but you still have maybe a little grudge with something that happened where you felt like you were wronged years ago and you WANNA maybe. Eight to nine five I'll give you an example of some of the things that people posted. Somebody said I was suspended for vandalizing the school even though I didn't do it. So they were young obviously I. Don't know what? What? Gripe four days later. I was allowed to come back because they found out who actually did it? And I just got an apology Yeah. Blows Somebody said they went on maternity leave the the woman they hired to cover. Me was paid three bucks more on our keep up and messed up several times. So I had to correct it when I came back when I asked for a raise, they offered me fifty cents. So yeah, I could see read feel like you were wronged. Somebody's horrible. Somebody said their wedding photographer left part of the Lens. Kaplon. So every photo as a massive black ring, no good photos from the wedding. I can't I just I can't even imagine that. Really. With with you know if it was if it's a wedding now everybody's got. You know pictures. Yeah. With with with cell phones. smartphones. So you could probably maybe some really decent shots but. Not Professional shots. That's bad back you know if it's ten. Years ago. Excusable Job Dude that's your one job you imagine being there off. Yeah. I did wedding photos for a little bit I got out of that business I just. Yeah. It would be like. My luck trying to do a wedding me like Oh, my. And then somebody posted this on rented when my mom accidentally put my sister's name on my birthday cake pretty horrible way to turn thirteen Ono's still holding a grudge wanted van about it. So that's what we're talking about is there anything that you can think of in your life we felt like you were wronged and you just WanNa be yeah I got something about about it real quick. Probably okay. So I can't say too much but it was my first job out of college. And you know I'm just one of those people I believe you when you tell me something I I believe you right because I'm not lying to you. So don't lie to me. Yeah. So I believed this woman that hired me and I was really excited about this job at a network and use my degree. I was stoked and she told me what the pay was and come to find out after accepted because like I said, it's my first big girl job. I didn't know anything or to haggle or negotiate. I. Don't know any of that. I just took her for her word. She totally low balled me. I mean I was making nothing and barely surviving which I get it. You GotTa Pay Your dues and and that's how it goes but the woman that had the position before. Me was making ten to fifteen grand more than me and I had just as much experience and so it was kind of like I. Didn't make anything like it was I could barely afford food I mean that's how bad it was and so I just I I've always been pissed off about that. Why would you wrong? You remember what it was can you say like that back then so you just start the full-time Gig and it was like twenty grand a year. Twenty grand a year and I had roommates and everything and I still couldn't afford anything because after they took out the insurance and taxes and four one K. Like I. was left with a lot and you know as a female like in my twenties and I just was like this, it was hard. It was really hard I know you've been in those jobs and positions before. Yeah. And I've got one like grudge that think back in. It's definitely you live and learn I was younger and it's one that I've shared before on the on the show. But it was before I came here because people say you know where where were you before you came to Salt Lake City because last week was my twenty third anniversary here at C. H. T. starting on the Air October sixth nineteen ninety-seven moved here in you know September of ninety seven but prior to that ninety seven was a crazy year I mean I was in DC at the talent. So you know ninety, six, ninety, seven, but wrapped up that job there didn't work. Out, and then took another job in Charlotte early ninety seven on a morning show there, and then that blew in my face and that's the one where I have kind of like this grudge it was the you know the program director from my boss was friends with the guy who I did mornings with in the guy that did mornings with was upset because according to people that I've worked with stepping on his toes, which was like, what, how, how am I stepping on his toes? So what had happened is we started the show in Charlotte North, Carolina and Jacksonville North Carolina they share a lot of the same companies like Johnson and Johnson. Has A place in Charlotte and same thing with Jacksonville and people you know come and go from city to city and people were like calling into the show and saying, Oh, my Gosh listened to you at the big ape and Jacksonville and so cool that you're here in Charlotte Blah. Blah. So that's apparently where I was stepping on this dudes tote and we were you know teamed up doing a show together and I thought well, that's you know that's kind of cool. But then hearing how apparently bruising his ego but he went to his friend who was the PD, the program director, and then said whatever he said to him and then. He he basically said yeah, we're GONNA, pull you off there and you're gonNA be producing off the air and I was like what? That's not what we had discussed and because I was young and I didn't have that in writing. So I really couldn't do anything about it. So I ended up just quitting that job without another job lined up, which is not a good thing and I remember taking my dad's advice where I didn't take it at that point. But he had told me over the years like don't don't ever. You know quit a job unless you've got a job lined up like thanks for the Advice Dad I'm not taking this. I'm, GONNA quit a job without having another job lined up. And it just sucked up so mad and angry, but I still have yeah. Grudge with that guy or those two guys. Slow but things workout you couldn't have worked out better I mean I love where I live. I love where I work with and I'm all about. You know I'm just very blessed. But yeah sure. I. Look Back Screen you. Don't have to go through the crabby times to appreciate these time. Exactly. So what is it where he want maybe vent all these years later where you felt like you were wronged at eight to nine, four five. So that's playing categories when as a kid and this is a game text. So Frank Love because he loves play Games just kidding. So anyhow explains categories and the letter was P.. So I, put that in whatever word this is is that paradoxical? It's PTERODACTYL. Okay. So my friends all said that are spelling it wrong and they didn't get the point because they they said it started with T. I'm so mad about twenty years later. So I guess it does start with a P. correct. Yeah. It's the Burger, the dinosaur, right? Sure. Yeah. So they had it right you know this kid had it right now an adult and the friends no, it's a t not a p and he knew it was. So, they wronged him twenty years later still pissed about categories. Let's see here on that spell, right? Yeah. Yes. And he knew it and nobody believed him. She's so they're like, nope, doesn't count. This one said had a falling out with my mother-in-law and I tried to be mature in our conversation. She completely flew off the handle. I don't talk about it with my husband because he shouldn't have to get in the middle, but still hurts and I just want him to validate my feelings and set her straight and there's no set new boss came in and fired me and all my employees loyal to me. I was a former manager of the year highest marks on all my reviews fast forward two years who's caught stealing from the company using all the people he replaced me and my team with to do that, she just took down the company nasty. When I was giving birth my five year old. Now Five. Five at the time, you probably felt like it was by right. That is yeah. I'm pushing in the nurse tells me you're breathing really hard I. Wish I kicked her out I. Get really like offended her like. Are you kidding up? Yeah lady you need that that nurse at that point you need a new GIG yeah. Maybe maybe a new position in the hospital maybe take yourself out of the you know that scene for a bit. We're GONNA cafeteria this one said I could write a book on how many times my mom has wronged me but the one six out at the time she picked me up for family event when we showed up my brother who raped me was there Oh my God said she knew I wouldn't come if I knew he was there but doesn't Issues about him or around him anymore while that's messed up to back in sixth grade class happened to be talking about the Moon, my teacher Mrs. P I had the fallen last name in their head to take it out because this one woman is still teaching. So my teacher Mrs Embarrassment by asking the class who has seen the dark side of the. Moon in every now, and again when you look up on a certain night, you can see it right when I raised my hand and she called on me I spoke with confidence that I have she shut me down so fast that was impossible for me to see twenty four now, and it's still bugs me to this day so you suck it Mrs p Ninety seven one ht's frank in just show podcast here on iheartradio. The bonus edition of Hollywood headlines We'll get into that for your Monday bonus. So if you watched tiger king, you know this doc antle character with the white hair and he's got all these women that worked for him on his compound. He's the one in Myrtle beach. Yeah Yup. So he's in big trouble. He said, I'm terribly shocked and disappointed by these charges that have been filed against me and my daughter's I can't believe they are seeking to involve my daughter's in this matter but I deny any actor conduct that would be considered animal cruelty. So they've been investigating him for a while he said, he would never hurt or abuse it any of his animals he's going to clear his good name. So He has a slew felony and misdemeanor charges for the treatment and transportation of lying cups. Like you said he is the owner and founder of Myrtle beach, the Ari and he was indicted on Friday in Virginia, Felony Wildlife Trafficking after months of like I said investigating him and they found evidence you traffic light and cubs between South Carolina and Virginia I guess they raided his park last December and He was charged with one felony count of conspiracy to sell or transport. Endangered Wildlife, wildlife, that is for misdemeanor counts of conspiracy to violate the endangered species act and the nine misdemeanor counts of animal cruelty. Then if you watch tiger king, he makes it look like he has this great place where all these people want to work and come to find out behind the scenes he sleeping with all these women he hires he doesn't pay them. He gives him room. And Board and food. So he thinks that that's payment enough. They don't make a salary and they work from sunup way past sundown when they're young and impressionable. So it's like he's praying on that he is kind of weird and doesn't he give them boob jobs to he does Yep Yep you're right. It gives them boob jobs. He has sex with them It's he goes for. Certain look and he's just he's a Predator in so many ways. Right and we've heard that when the cats get too big, he knows how expensive it is to feed them. So he kills them he kills his cats once they're not cute and cuddly and the public doesn't want them anymore. He gets rid of them and that's what what's his name was doing to. You'RE RIGHT JOE? Exotic His daughter's like I said tiny and telecom there has daughters so they're charged with misdemeanors of animal cruelty invite have violating the endangered species act as well. So we'LL HOUSEHOLD They gotta be. Right yeah. I. Think. So I think you're right. He's like I can't believe that because I think he's in his fifties sixties. He's up there and then conway is in a lot of trouble. So he went over to the United Kingdom. He had two bodyguards with him. He had his daughter. North. With him and he appears to be breaking the law. So He's been out and about London traveling from the US and it's not good. He's been getting really close to UK fans. He's been shopping going out to restaurants he and his daughter North do not have masks on and so in the UK you have to quarantine for fourteen days have food delivered to. You you can't be out and about and Connie is not following the rules. So we'll have to see what happens with him, and then there was what was it certain cities? He's on the ballot he certain states. Yeah. Certain states right and he doesn't want to be the vice president. He's he's like, no you you gotta put me in for President. So he's like asking people to write him in on the ballot if there are certain states that he didn't make it in time you know with the with the cutoff Mike O'Connor you're. You're not going to be president. He has all this merchandise. Conway for President Twenty Twenty and all this other stuff. I think the hat was like sixty. Sixty bucks in the sweatshirt was like one hundred, twenty bucks or something like that. Feel like it takes away my I q points this even talking about this. For for president, you know. It's somebody had said that he's going to be on the ballot here in Utah whatever you know how that'd be fun. You know people vote for him. Vote for I'm voting for boats and host twenty twenty I don't know if you saw my i. Posted my campaign for stepbrothers. They put it on facebook. Dale and what was the other ones Gosh? I had it pulled up. which was Dale was John John C What's his name Riley Riley I can't remember Oh. Here it is. It's Brennan and Dale Twenty Twenty Brennan is will Farallon. You're right boats and hose. That's what I went ahead and it was very bold. But I posted it on facebook book that's Hilarious. Love that movie and watch it again, we I told my best like to watch Happy Staff Lake with twenty two, thousand, twenty s getting my head too much. So last night we watched Sebastian Maniscalco because she's never seen his doesn't. So we watched he's got three on Netflix that I could see and I've watched parts of each of them and I end up falling asleep because I've watched them with Kevin but we watched one of his last night we were just laughing our butts off but yeah, I wanNA. Watch stepbrothers again, I'm like I need some more funny my life and then Megan Markle God bless her she's had quite a couple of years and she said she was pretty much the most trolled person in the entire world and so I know she's got a clip here but there were talking about world, Mental Health Day, which was on Saturday and just talking about teenagers and problems that they face and they have a podcast called teenage therapy. So she was talking about online bullying here I can speak personally. To I'm told that in two thousand, nineteen, I was the most troubled person in the entire world male or female. Now, eight months of that I wasn't even visible I was on maternity leave with the baby. But what was able to just be manufactured and turned out it's almost unservicable. So we were watching over the weekend we just because we were looking for some comedic stuff, it was on Friday or Saturday. I can't remember my wife and I and and we just decided like horrible bosses because that's one kind. Of. A good Goto Yeah Meghan markle's in that and I didn't realize that my wife team is Meghan. Markle is really and she's like, yeah, that's Meghan Markle. What does she play in that I don't remember. So you remember when the scene with Jason said I cus he's you know at his place of business and you know works at the for Donald Sutherland whatever that company was but the delivery girl you remember when she you know and he was hitting on the delivery girl and that's that's her. Yeah. Yeah. So she worked for like a Fedex, kind of company how finding and that was Meghan markle. Is Meghan Markle but yes, she she just said you're fifteen or twenty five. When people go in at you like that it's just it's heartbreaking and it's hard to deal with and You know they were talking about this podcast that vulnerability is not a weakness. It's actually a strength in it's good to reach out and admit that you're going through stuff and and kind. Of Get to the root of it you know instead of just pushing it down. So yeah the and it's true everybody was her own family was trolling her and saying horrible things about her I can't even imagine can't even imagine, and then let's do Chris Brown Chris Brown's got a new girlfriend. He is dating this instagram model. A lot of these celebs are starting to like. Get these instagram hotties didn't he get one pregnant or something or was it somebody else? Who Gosh? Drake was a drake wasn't that drink I don't know there could have been a couple of them with these into holidays but yeah, here's Gina and they said. She's hot they. They said she's a Asian and thick. Like. Oh, she's gorgeous. She's an instagram model. Chick that's half naked on instagram. Anybody can be your instagram model. Are you are you? She has oshii slipping as the burden has got twenty nine thousand followers. Yeah. Almost thirty thousand. So yeah, that's Chris. Brown's New Lady, and in the past she's been linked to diddy drake and meek mill Geez she's studying. She's beautiful. She's okay they. I mean she just the fact that you said she's been with all these other people that would to me. It'd be like an amount. True but it's Chris Brown we know he doesn't make the best decisions she kinda crazy but but let's see. So she data drake and Drake's little boy Adana S he is the cutest thing. He turned three over the weekend and he's got this big blonde curly hair is that the? Kid dragged it in acknowledged for the first little bit Yup keep it under wraps. Yep You're absolutely right and so they had a birthday party for him. Just a small little gathering. It seemed like it was maybe his mom and dad that were there with him with drake at his mentioned in. TORONTO. So cute pictures of Donna's he is just like the most beautiful child ever Zoe lives in I would take it the kid is. A good question I don't know if he's there full time or not. I WANNA see he goes between Toronto and L. A. Like those are two home bases and he's not with the mom they're just co-parenting or whatever quick co-parenting is that what it is with drinking the mom probably like I'll give you this much money a month you know and I'll have the kids so I don't know if I'd call copernicus. Every Rhode Situation. But anyhow, I'll be posting I've got some technical difficulties going on the Hollywood headlands page. So hopefully, I can get those worked out after the show and get some new pictures up at Let's see frank dot com because we're talking about Cardi B. Earlier and she had her big birthday celebration over the weekend saying she turned twenty eight and everybody's like you're not twenty, eight, thirty, two you're a liar and she was given lap dances to offset everyone's like wait aren't you can't divorce. She's a queered. Man But yeah. You'll have to check about. All right. So in about twenty eight minutes here. So Jeff McCartney is GonNa take over maybe a little after ten. He's GonNa give it another shot at a thousand bucks with pay your bills just want to remind you these keywords or twelve times weekdays. With payer bells, we brought it back a week ago in about eight minutes, we're going to get him on the line that would be dr be Dr Burton therapy money's coming up. You've been listening to the ninety seven, one, the HD Frankie and just show podcast right here on Iheartradio. Nine forty four, ninety seven one HD Celtics number one hit music station with Frankie ingests welcome to Monday sunny in about seventy for the high today seventy five and sunny tomorrow and then sounds like mid sixties and some wind in clouds on Wednesday and it doesn't sound like we're going to get back into the seventies for the rest of the week and who knows maybe next week we'll have some warm temperatures but we're probably going to get. On board with where we should be in fall with the temps because it's definitely been a little warmer than normal it's fifty three to get up right now we need to check total traffic, right? Do we have a crash southbound I fifteen before main? It's an Lehigh that right lane is blocked right about two seventy, nine Gary. Let's get on the line. That would be Dr v Therapy Monday from Aspirin counseling. Doing I'm doing what you don't see my ad Bob. Knock it out so Kylie got married on Saturday night. Yeah congratulations. She's up this morning took Friday in in today off but it was it was a nice beautiful wedding. She made a beautiful bride Danny made a very handsome groom cue that was a nice wedding so. Yeah. Hey, speaking of weddings and you know what comes after you know people get married and have the kids. The one on it. Yeah. Yeah. Don't want to put that out there but we're already talking about I'm sure they asked me they're like you're currently Danny GonNa. Wait on my county said they want to wait a few years but IT ON THEIR WEDDING You know and that's a topic for another time because that can be really intrusive. Ask You know young married couple that and especially here in Utah. Well, just you have no idea if they're trying if the right to it, the issues. Yeah Yeah. Very privately different. That's different subject but we are talking about this and we have talked about with you in the past and spent a bit and the reason I wanted to bring it up again, and that is when your kid or kids aren't sleeping in their own bad or like just brought up and talk you off the air She knows somebody I think where it's kind of. The opposite I mean, the kids in their bed, but the one of the parents is in the bed with the kid. So I mean, I think that's just as bad. You know it's like, okay. Well, the kids not developing on his or her own, but I wanted to bring it up because a friend of mine. So she has a couple of kids in the one kid that she has. It's a daughter and just shy of axles age are a little boy just turned four at the talent of August and she said. 'cause I was because I knew they were having problems with her sleeping in her own bed a while ago and then I thought I would ask you know like how how's it going now and she said, well, she was sleeping in her bed fine up until about six months ago when this pandemic thing started and she said now you know and plus there was another kid that they had a little bit ago. So I she said the combination of the two. And they know they have a problem but I think it's it's probably you know mom. Not Wanting to deal with it I think I don't know where I would think the dads probably like a you know throw in the arms up in the air. But the. What's that? Usually it's an issue with the parents. Will and that's see. That's what I think. It is and I think it's it's it's that whole how I don't know what it is where they just don't want to. You know they they want to have that snuggle time which I think is is important but I mean, it's not like the kids shouldn't be in your bed. You know you can have time when the kid gets up. Right. So I think there are a couple of reasons second debt of this weekend down in southern Utah with Lindy, and then one of my daughters so have Wendy works with kids and then my daughter, the pediatrician. So we were talking last night you know I just getting their ideas and I think that it. One of the best skills you can teach your children is to how to sleep independently. Now I realize that's a cultural thing and and there'll be some listeners out there who you know or into what they call the family bad and things like that. But I think that in our culture, it's mostly about helping children to sleep well and become independent because often it become independent sleepers because you know a lot of sleep issues with adolescent really begin when their kids yeah So there are any number of reasons why this happens I think often when when there's a newborn. Because of nursing Awesome. You mothers all nurse and the child is either in the parents bedroom or the bad although most people. Would say that's not a good thing but then I think as the child gets older, it becomes difficult. To Transition the child to their own room and for any number of reasons one you don't you know you missed the time and that's a great time right to be connected and I think also went both parent if both parents are working outside the home, then there are at least what I've seen in my office is they feel guilty and they don't have they. They don't have enough time with their child and so of the ways they change that is to end up sleeping together but I again I think it's not in the best interests of. The child, and so you know their sleep like McDonald's tradition she with her two kids who are here as well She did sleep training she thinks that. You can start around six months six to seven months. And she has this whole way that she talks to her parents about doing sleep train, which you know involve Pretty. Child in their own bedroom and at that point apparent Maimi this week in the same bedroom for like four or five nights. Then you slowly move away. So the child becomes. More comfortable with that. But I think often parents are uncomfortable with children crying yeah and and you know what? Sometimes they're gonNA cry and they're going to be unhappy and fall asleep but it's okay sometimes if our kids cry and are uncomfortable. But I think from A. From a psychological perspective, it's creating that idea with the child one, they can be independent and they they can't be safe. They can be safe in their own bedroom. I think when either when one parent is with the child or the child is in the parents bed. So from my perspective seeing couples. I think there's something going on in the relationship and I've seen that lot where the child becomes. almost a tool to create distance or you know make it impossible so that there's either emotional or physical intimacy I think they're all. Their range of problems that occur when that's happening when the child's either in the bed or the parent chooses to go sleep with the child. And they just don't work well for the child or for the couple. Well, I wonder how often 'cause like I said, our little boy just turned four and he is really good about sleeping in his own bedroom but I'll tell you in the last three weeks. There's been a couple of instances where he in the middle of the night so I get up at like KENO little after three. And he came in one night at like one The other night was like two something. and. I. Think I don't know if he's I, think one of the Times he said that he had a bad dream. and then the other time I used that and I said to my wife Tammy I said Okay because we had a conversation with him. The next day I was like dude and I just sat before he went to bed night a couple of conversations I said you cannot do that. You cannot come into moment data's bedroom in sleep with us I said it's one thing if you had a bad dream will come in. You're right across the hallway from US I said, but it's important. I don't think he gets some of the words terminology amusing but I. said. For Your own personal development you have to sleep in your own bedroom. You cannot do that and come into our bedroom in the middle of the night and sleep with us and my wife Tammy was like you know we're talking about this without him. We're having this discussion. She's like, yeah but he he had a bad dream a bad dream and I don't want and I said I said he's he's manipulative and I Know that I think he had a bad dream and I'm just I'm not I'm just saying as a kid I'm not saying coming on him personally you know he's he's our son right but kids can be manipulative. So I think that for the first time when he said that there was a real dream but then he said at the second time because he knows what he that's how he's going to get into the. Bed. So I told my wife Tammy me that I said. I. Think he kids are manip-. They will manipulate you to get what they want, and I said I'm just telling you that that is not a good thing and it's only been twice in like three weeks. He's done it but I'm like I want to nip this in the but I do not want to get where it's a problem you know right and and. it's easy for parents to inadvertently reinforce that idea of the kid's sleeping in the bed because you know we want it. We have empathy and yes, you had this difficult dream and but then I think you're doing it exactly right. You have to then go back and say you can do this. Yes. Bad Dream Come in. But you're right. Kid manipulative always sounds like such a harsh word. But I, you know that's that's every kid that they. If they see all I can get this. If I do this, any kids going to do it and and so it's not a bad thing. It's just up to the parents then to set the appropriate expectations and boundaries around sleep. There will be bumps along the way and that's okay. Yeah I. Think. Parents ought to expect that. Their kids will. Go as my wife says, they go through times of equilibrium and disequilibrium when they enter those create disequilibrium, then their sleep may be disrupted. You know for a time but just like you're doing you then you know very gently say, let's move back to use leaping on your own. So, are usually usually it's a an issue with parents either they don't WanNa do what it takes. which it takes effort. And it the it's inconvenient but parents can do that or I think. The other thing is something going on in the adult relationship. And it's being used I see the same thing happened with pets dogs. Oh yeah or cats the bad happens all the time but I think it's It's a way to create distance usually And it's disrupting sleep like as my daughter said for pediatrician standpoint, there's nothing medically wrong with the child sleeping with you. She sees it then. In, disrupts the sleep of the parents. Okay. which then makes it so that you know you're less able. To. To maintain your composure when things so bad. I think good. Sleep is really critical for all right especially now. Yeah. So what about the couples that are listening you've got? You. One person in the relationship knows that this is a problem in their relationship that you know and and I don't know if there's like statistics where it's like the mom over the dad or if it's like equal probably Ma the mom maybe allowing that. So what like you know it's a problem in your relationship how how do you address that? Without it being world war three, and especially if if you know your partner gets defensive about it. I. Think that. I mean, certainly, therapists can help, but I think the other partner if instead of focusing. So directly on, we need to have this child you be out of our bed start talking about what do we each get from this? What are we getting in know from the relationship so you can talk about what you get and then you can also talked about. What does prevent us from doing like how does this change our relationship and so if you thought toppy talking directly out than me to get the child out of the bed but more, what is this doing to us? Both positive and negative. I think if you have that empathy. And that validation but I think, then you can probably work together to have a solution because I think once people talked about and thank you had is doing this to our relationship. It is creating distance. And promote people, they want to change that. If one of the partners doesn't want to change the distance. That's a whole different level of problem in the relationship I think then you're like, here's Dr Burton's. Here can you just him? I think you need to deal with it in a different way if yes, there's distant and no, I don't. WanNa. Do anything about it. Okay. What's the number of aspro counseling? So for somebody listened that wants to get in touch with you. Eight zero, one, five, eight, one, zero, four, two, two, perfect and hey, before we let you go through this topic is just a little bit ago you were wrong years ago. And you're still not quite over it and he just wanted to vent about it. Is there anything that you can think of where you were you feel like you're your part? Partners wrong. No, you just talking like. So if you've got a story per yeah, like personally like if you've got something where you feel like you were wronged years ago and you still WanNa just kinda be wrong. Yeah. Well I think. You know what do you get by hanging on? I mean you get usually if we hang onto something, we're getting company we're not. Looking at, we're not looking to pick it apart Dr. be we're looking just for a story like if you've got something that you're like, Oh yeah. This happened to me. You have a personal story about something that maybe when you're younger yeah and you're like. Steph go. See I don't. I. Don't see the spending psychic energy and something you can't change well, then you can have a radio show because you need Ginsburg radio show you need stories. I'm I've probably got. All right we love. We miss you too man we told. How great we? TO HALFWAY DOWN IN SOUTHERN UTAH, we'll talk to you next week. All right take care buddy. Thank You know you but he wasn't listening. So he doesn't. Off Guard. All right. Coming up next have a great Monday. Thanks for all the texts coming in. We'll get them posted a frankie ingest dot com and he's got a key worth a thousand bucks pay your bills on the way.

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123: A Conversation with Rachel Ross

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123: A Conversation with Rachel Ross

"Hey guys welcome to another episode of Coffee Combos. Lindsay's. This week. So we are joined by my best friend Rachel and before I introduced her to the podcast I wanted to preface this whole episode Rachel came to visit and we decided to watch the. This is Paris documentary that is on Youtube. So if you haven't seen it already, it's about Paris life and leading up to. It starts with childhood leading up to where she is as an adult now and part of that she talks about going to a school called PCS, which is Provo Canyon School in Utah and This is a boarding school. Rachel. Boarding school quote unquote. will end quote more like a Behavioral Correctional Center. Okay. So a behavioral Correctional School Center. So I'M GONNA welcome Rachel's The podcast and we're GONNA go in-depth with. We're GonNa talk about the whole let's talk about Paris he'll documentary and then we'll get into your whole story. So Rachel thanks for being on the PODCAST. I know this is going to be super emotion also bear with us and if you are on your way to work, maybe turn it off and listen to it after because your Mascara be running down your face. So Hey, Rachel Hey Okay. So we watch the parasail documentary together and my first thoughts were. that. I y. love parents after watching it. I collected her perfumes as a kid like I, remember the one perfume that she had i. Bought all of them because it was being discontinued but I love the scent so much that I was like, okay. Obviously need to stock up on this and so laid off the shelf but I did truly think of her as a character like her simple life character and Lindsey and I always talk about the life like we love it and we think it's so funny and I really pictured her as being the character that she portrays. But in the documentary, it's actually the complete opposite and there's like real depth and like. Substance and all of those things and I was pleasantly surprised and I I I really loved her. I. I agree I mean I learned a lot about her and it was definitely truth telling and we not to know a different side of her and it really showed the human in Paris rather than the brand. Right and America has known the brand for a long time and the personality and the character but for her to let us really in and really get vulnerable in open up it really just shed light to. Different parts of her and different depths to her and even just some of the ways that she would talk about the way she handles business and things like that. It really just showed how multifaceted she really is. I. Think it sh. In watching it too is like. There's a lot to be said about the entertain the people in entertainment in general. Obsolete like it's more than what you see and it could totally be the complete opposite of what you see an iceberg. You're only looking at, you know that fifteen percent above the water but really there's this whole world underwater and I mean even with you I'm sure you can relate people probably look at you and they're like, oh, she's the teen mom but then you start talking about all these ventures in the she's really business savvy. Wow she's really smart. Wow, she's. A world traveler, all these things that people might not necessarily assume just by the Kale lowery brand. Okay. Yeah. I mean and they sure as hell don't know most of them don't know what I went through as a child either right to lead me to make the decisions that I make and I think that that's kind of what Paris was trying to explain But like I said, it was pleasantly surprised. I will say though in knowing. You and your story kind of hearing everything about. Provo Canyon. School. I. was disappointed in. Her covering that portion of her life because I feel like. There was so much more to be said there was so much more. Damage and an. Abuse and neglect that went on and I I feel only like dip their toes into it. I. Agree I mean I think that it? She needed to kind of take us backwards to understand where she is currently, but I think there. was more emphasis on the rest than there was on what actually happened at pcs and I think just as a fellow survivor I was hoping for a little bit more depth instead of just kind of throwing out the words of abuse neglect things like that I. Guess I wanted more not only for myself to be able to relate to but also for the rest of the world because she is. On such a large platform right and so it was kind of our moment and so. To have those parts, I, guess kind of minimized. I was just really hoping that we would get like the nitty gritty the deep dirt being that's what really needs to be brought to light I. thought that the whole. The whole documentary was going to be about that me too I was kind of interested to see that it was towards the end and then kind of I think the documentary was an hour in like forty five minutes maybe and it was I think the end like maybe twenty thirty minutes that would be my guess and again, even just with the way they touched on it with her mom to end. That was kind of just like little pieces towards the end I was kind of again looking for more more. So for our fellow survivors because of how we have to interact with our parents right there's this. These such big shoes to fill in. Paerson. Amazing job as. A fellow survivor, but also as the public, I think she did a great way of getting the message out there but there's just still so much store to be there really is so okay let's. Let's go back and talk about. What exactly it is. So I said that it was like a boarding school, but it's it's a behavioral correctional. Yes. So it's we were kinda groomed and led to believe that it's a boarding school. And for all intents and purposes that's what the school and our parents and all of the adults at that point in our lives were telling us it was but. IT IS A. A behavioral modification. Plays. I don't even know what they would actually label themselves. We know it's not true to what they do. But when people say boarding school people think like a rich boarding school in the Swiss Alps that you know you're just like still living your life we were not and there was more focused on abuse and neglect than there ever was on any type of education and you would think that education would be huge at school. I mean school you know I'm I'm guilty of threatening to send my kids to boarding school I've said that to you right and. Did I come back like you can't do that. When I wasn't sure what to do but in my mind I'm thinking OK boarding school you just don't get to see your family and do school all day like literally how I pictured it. I never even thought about like the tour aspect I never thought of like Even just even nurture us back sensual of being sexually assaulted abused physically any of that like I didn't think of truly being deprived of your family and what that would actually mean for an adolescent because in the documentary. parasol and says that there is no eight nine year olds at PCS so. Are you first of all, are you comfortable sharing your story happened to you? Absolutely. Okay. So I think. Let's start there. Okay. So my story was a little more recent than Perez Hilton's I attended. we say PCs, but that's public school. I attended. From March of two thousand three until April of two, thousand and four. and. Kind of what led to me being sent there I was sexually assaulted November of two, thousand and two. It was November seventh, two, thousand and two, and I, started. Rightfully. So acting out and I started having a lot of emotional issues because of it. The guy and his girlfriend were already I know this story but everyone else doesn't know the story guy and his girlfriend they were like stalking me and life had just got really crazy really really quickly and. By so that was November by January. Things were a mess. Everyone knew my business everyone will into thousand. Two. How old were you? I was sixteen sixteen. So your emotions are going crazy I mean this is. You're trying to process it. All absolute. You're going to act out right like most sixteen year olds already have. Behavioral. Pushing boundaries, or we're trying to figure out where the parents and and we begin and where the independent is, but then you add sexual assault into it. By someone. You knew and it's just a shit storm. And yes. So it was a peer that I had known since like seventh grade this is now eleventh grade and it happened and everything just fell apart my grades plummeted. My school life suffered they changed my school schedule around my teachers had to escort me to and from classes at one point because like I said, they were kind of stalking me and harassing me and I think honestly the biggest thing at that point and I know it sounds so like trivial and Triton now. But if you put yourself in sixteen year olds position, it was that everyone knew my business, my whole high school knew what was going on and? Even if they didn't know exactly what was going on, they heard some. Version of the telephone game of what had happened and so that just. I think itself was traumatizing and so by the time January rolls around Things just got worse. My Mom knew all the adults knew and at that point I was at school one day and I was standing in line a bunch of girls that didn't know personally and they were talking about me and they were talking about the girl that this guy had taken out to the desert and assaulted and I was just at that point I hit my wall because these were just strangers you know. So I went home and I tried to pack my car because I was going to run away because I was sixteen and just trying to escape at that point and I wanted to go live with my aunt in Washington. Because I was just done California as a whole and I didn't WanNa, be around my mom and I just needed a fresh start to be honest. I. Needed Safety and needed stability I needed comfort and love and you didn't tell your mom about it. She found out through other people or you did tell her I, didn't tell my mom about it at first because like you know when there's abuse involved, there's a lot of mixed. Lines, I mean I remember right after it happened him driving me home and thinking like well i. like him. So was that bad like I didn't want to do that but I sean him. So does that make it? Okay and so it just it was a mind from the get go like literally from the night happened there was all sorts of questions and really blurred lines and so I didn't tell my mom because I was. At that point, I think trying to protect him and trying to protect myself right and one of my really good childhood friends Travis one day the guy was harassing me like I said, there was a point where he was harassing me and stalking me and he wouldn't stop and I knew he was gonna come over because he was trying to get a hold of me on am. I'd probably just dated myself but he was just. Repetitive with attempts, and so I called my best friend at the time Travis and I was just like I need you to come over here and he came over instantly and he stayed with me the whole day until my mom came home and then I'll never forget it. He kissed me on the forehead he looked at my mom and said Karen Rachel has something to tell you and if she doesn't call me I'll tell you. Just because he thought that you needed more help like nurturing and and at that point if the guy stalking me like I- adults need to know, right we need to get like more adult or adults involved because this is escalating. Point, Travis realized. He found out that day but I think not only on top of finding that out he realized how scared I was and that point it was like, okay. If you're not going to tell her I will and honestly I I don't know what would have happened. Had He not? So I'm really grateful. So Travis or Anyone listening appreciate you. 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Psycho you're about to get the psycho if you agree. To. A psycho vow I will let you go live your aunt Susan and I thought to be honest. I thought of Al was like an hour sitting on a couch blowing smoke up some therapists asked is telling them what they want to hear get out of the hour and start in Washington. Ray, free. So I agreed. What I didn't know is that. A PSYCH OF AL is much bigger much more in depth and much more traumatizing than an hour on a couch with some stranger. I was admitted to UCLA's mental hospital. And I stayed there for thirteen days. Just, saying that it's just it sucks to even have to say that out loud But that was there for thirteen days. Well, they put me on different medications. They put me in front of you know different therapists and psychiatrists in different things to really try to guess diagnosing label me. And While I was there. I believe that the staff told my mom about PCS. That's where she became aware that such a place existed okay and At one point a therapist status down and look my mom dead in the face and said, she's sixteen. She's been through trauma and she hates her mom aside from the trauma everything's normal. and. My mom was just I don't think willing to hear it at that point. She was convinced that there is bigger issues going on or. To be completely honest I think she wanted bigger issues to be going on that way. She could then be the victim or the martyr as to what was going on. It was a really twisted situation. You don't think that she ever did it just to be like I. Don't want to deal with this like I. I think that's probably where you talk him into play. Yoga. But that point no, I think she was just trying to. Draw attention to herself. Yeah. That was a big part of it but I also think she Yeah like she really was. Looking and hoping for some underlying issue right and Really if we look back, it was like well, I was sixteen I was sexually assaulted November seventh and by January you have in a mental hospital we didn't try regular therapy. We try the school guidance counselor. We didn't try anything before it was like you're committed to a mental hospital. I mean it's less than we were talking like two months here. What like? That makes absolutely no sense. I didn't heal fast enough. Sorry. Didn't process my trauma fast night. And so. Of course, all of these things come now at sixteen I didn't realize that document worst. Question. Always twenty twenty, of course. So upon being discharged from UCLA. They basically told my mom this is this is what it is senator to Washington and give her that start that she wants. Right. So I came home for weekend packed. Myself said, goodbye my friends and I moved to Washington to live with my aunt. I got there I believe the end of January or beginning, of February. And I was there from February to. Beginning of March. January to be anywhere from maybe. I would say five to eight weeks honestly eight weeks even seems like a stretch. Okay. But my memories really skewed at that point of course, and. I moved to Washington I started over I. Made Me Friends started a new school. and I was trying to I. Guess. Repair what everyone had kind of done in the last six months right UNBEKNOWNST TO ME? They. Already, had a plan in motion. Should I fail or should something else happen? So when I thought to Washington, they sat me down and had me sign a contract and it basically stated if your GPA reaches, you know if it goes below a certain number if you know if you get in trouble if you take a car, that's not yours, it had all these stipulations and at the bottom is that if you fail to comply, you will be sent to a boarding school and I honestly thought here. Let me just sign this I'm finally in Washington I'm safe like it's fine like nothing's going to happen now. And So I. Ended up. Taking a car that wasn't mine. Okay. But you didn't steal I didn't steal. Your this is your family members car who's a friend of the family friend of the family's car and you're babysitting not like rice. Like grand theft auto, we're not right. No I grant. What is it called Grin. Grand. Theft auto. Ceiling. Like I'm not what happened people looking for? Let me preface in say for one before the night of the sexual assault. I was a virgin I had no record. I, had no nothing. I maybe didn't have the best grades just because your girl doesn't really dig all that. That was pretty much the only thing that there was and so. In Washington, I was babysitting the kids asked to go to the mall and I was sixteen and there was a car key so I took them to the mall and it was not agreed choice and I am completely aware of that and now that I'm a mother I'm like Oh, my God. But. At the time for one, I didn't see the magnitude of my actions and to I didn't know that just because I was breaking a rule in that contract that I would be sent away. Thought did you think it was like more like a threat? Absolutely of course you're not thinking like my family, my family send me away right and like I've said like I said I threatened my kids to send them to a boarding school. My Mom's thought so hard to have a baby, there is no way that she would then turn around and send you away at least that was my thinking, right? So I mean, again, my grades didn't get too much higher. They didn't get any worse, but they didn't get any better but again I was there for maybe like six to eight weeks. How much turn around time is going to have in a new school when I'm already getting caught up and it was a mess like, yeah, there was no time. There was no rebound there. You are from something that happened less than six months ago when I lived in Washington I lost so much weight that I was a double zero I had black circles under my eyes I weighed about seventy two pounds. So you're trauma happen less than six months ago. What do you? What do they want from you at this point like I'm still is a mom and knowing. Everything that I've gone through with sexual assault like I can't imagine. Placing such. I guess not restrictions. Expectations on someone like if my child were to have gone through that now knowing what I know. No you'RE GONNA work. We're going to heal this together. We're going to get you through this. We're going to take your time we're going to do whatever we need to do. I'm not going to then turn around like you have to have straight A.'S BECAUSE You're so he listened something. Like let's get through this. Let's see all and we'll figure out the rest site right. So when I when I took the car and violated the contract I, knew that I was in big trouble for the car like I knew that that was gonna be a big thing and I, didn't get out bed for like a whole weekend and it was it was really bad and I knew that. Something was coming but I didn't. I had no idea what I thought I would just lose like further restrictions or maybe they wait for me to like actually silently permit guys only had a permit at the time show. I thought maybe they would say, okay now you have to wait to your eighteen to get a license or. Other they take away my actual car or like I don't know I knew I was in deep shit I just didn't know what I was in for I had no idea right like the depth of. Being event right to that work to come. Right. So shortly thereafter. I'll never forget I was on the phone with my friend Mikhail shot out Britain Mikhail and I was talking to her and I was okay you talk to you or like see you tomorrow we hung up thinking everything will be normal at school tomorrow went to bed. And next thing I know I'm being woken up in the middle of the night to two strangers standing above my bed, a man and a woman, and they are ripping the blankets off me, and of course, I'm startled and scared and completely unaware of what's happening some half asleep, and now there's a stranger staring at me. And they basically told me you know get up get your things. We're here to help you get home and I remember just telling them like I don't WanNa go home. This is where I live now and you're thinking home California home. Lutely? and. Settling back to my mom just came from where I don't want to be. So I was like, no, this is very live now and they were like, no you your mom sent us. We're here to help you get home and I'm like my mom knows about this my aunt Susan now because that's where I was living with and they're like, yeah, they all know you need to come with us and at that point I was thinking do I have time to run so I would just ask them. Okay. Well, can I go to the bathroom I and they said sure and there's a little Window in the bathroom. So I went into the bathroom and as right as I was just like eyeballing the toilet in the window they both followed me in both the man and the woman followed me into the bathroom to watch Miki at point. I knew Oh shit there's no, there's no way I can run, and at that point they basically me if you try to run or you fight, we will restrain you and use force and either way you're coming with us like the easy way or the highway at this point, it's the middle of the night on a school night on a school night. In. What? Beginning of March in Washington. So it's freezing just so many elements. And so. I was so unsure of what they were doing, I remember like listening to them and following them but also being like, am I supposed to go with these strangers like they are telling me that I? Am You know in my aunt Susan and my uncle were in the house because I was kind of looking for them like is this real or are you guys GonNa let them take me what's happening they get me in the car and as we're driving down. The road, you don't even know if you're actually being kidnapped or you're supposed to be with these people right. So that's traumatizing in and out itself it was I mean. If you ask me and any of the fellow survivors. We were kidnapped and held hostage. Yours. Physician. That's exactly what it is granted our parents signed off on it, but we never did and so as we drove away I, remember looking out the window and seeing my aunt and my uncle hiding in her car parked up the street and I guess the escorts worked for Provo Canyon School told them. She'll cry she'll stream. It's best if if you're not here just which is. The fact that you can't be there and watch it take place and it happened in a way where you guys all conversation. It's like you're going to go away for a little while like XYZ. Absolutely that's a red fucking flag absolutely, and it was. So it was like a movie I remember it was like just like the kid looking out the window looking at the other kid they drive away because they're moving or something right I remember just looking and just watching her hide and thinking like. You're the one safe person in this whole world. That's why chose you that's why I wanted to come here and you're not safe in instead you're you're coward and she herself is the victim of sexual abuse and physical abuse and all sorts of fucked up shit in her childhood. So the fact that she just she's also a licensed therapist. So nobody thought. Okay. Well, let's just Rachel get through this with regular therapy with. No one no one offered any other. Anything. It was never even talked about nothing. There were no options game in they didn't tell my new school. That's why had transferred there. There was no guidance counselor there is no grief counseling. There's no didn't like us just like Rachel got sexually assaulted, but that has nothing to do with why she's out of control, right but. Okay right. Like honestly even they didn't put me on birth control or anything which if you're like really worried about it wouldn't you think like, Hey, let's put your birth control. Let's take all these steps because now this whole can of worms has been opened like there was nothing and I think that's one of the most repulsive parts is that my family went. Right to this rather than trying everything else. Right like. Even. If that was an option that they were considering, you would think that that would be something. That would be a last resort. Right? Absolutely ops that should be the last resort that should be the absolute last resort and the fact that it's even a resort is a problem right but yeah I mean I don't know I. It was not justified in my eyes I wasn't in a gang wasn't in and out of Juvie I wasn't harming anyone I wasn't on drugs I mean. Someone did something to me and I was already carrying that burden why add more? Are. You guys. We're GONNA take a quick break to talk about one of our newest partners tile and I'm in any jaw to listen up because we all know someone who is constantly losing their stuff and if that is you, you're not alone that is also me and that is also Jackson. A fun fact is that the average person waste fifteen minutes a day trying to find their stuff and honestly, I, misplace things all day long my phone, my car keys, my Wallet Jackson's biggest thing that he must places all the time which drives me absolutely bananas is the TV remotes like I. 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You'll never see us again. We, we actually worked for where you're going where we just were third party. You will never see are faces again. That's horrifying terrifying terrifying and it wasn't until like we're pulling up to the airport that I'm like, Oh shit. They're taking over state lines and at that point I still thought it was California. Oh, you're in the air the airport yeah. We drove to the airport and so when we got to the airport I literally okay we're going California okay I'll get there run away I'll make it back up here I'll make it work and it wasn't until we were at the Gate that I saw the gate was going to Salt Lake City and I realized Oh shit they're taking me to Utah and to shed some light and kind of back step when I was in Ucla a girl who was my closest friend there in thirteen days she disappeared in the middle of the night one night and a girl another girl in the morning at breakfast when I'm asking like, Hey, where's meredith where she another girl said, Oh she probably went to Utah because I guess you'd back had seen a few people disappear in the middle of the night and and so I don't. Terrifying. Absolutely and so I I was asking the escorts or transporters you know. Am I going Utah you guys girly. And all this stuff and they were like, we know absolutely nothing were third party. You'll never see us again you'll have to find out once you get there we flew to Salt Lake City, and then I was greeted by new escorts who then received me and then took me to. The. Quote Unquote School. at that point I everything changed it went from. Bad. To worse to worse to worse. Unimaginable. Within an instant. I upon getting to pcs I was stripped naked in front of multiple staff members. I was probed. I was forced to bend over and cough I mean anything you could have haven't done. For taking the car, you haven't really done on Kate housing taken a car for a joy. Ride his needs without a license before I got my license for at least a year and nobody knew. I had a goddamn permit I. don't even know if I had that. And my friends let me drive their cars without them. Even you know what I'm saying like as fucked up as it is thinking back like, wow, that's really fucking dangerous and I'd Be pissed if one of my kids did it, it's like. We all drove without a license I'm on still tells stories about like. Sneaking out doing teenage things. Can't really hear how many people drink without being twenty-one bringing. You know what? I mean like not I'm not I'm not trying to justify it, but I'm also trying to advertise with the fact that you were. Probably. Acting out because of the the things that happen to you and the punishment didn't fit the crime. No absolutely not it really didn't. It's like, okay. Maybe we put her in therapy maybe a scared straight weekend like I don't know or even just like. Punishment but a different, a nothing that is gonNa then changed my life changed my views of myself or my relationship with my mom or any of those big hitting things that were really affected right I don't wait till I'm eighteen to get my license, take my car away like actual things that would you? The you know the normal stuff parents do. Yeah. And so you're you're stripped down naked in front of all these people and you're probably feeling so vulnerable and so betrayed and so and I just remember being so confused because these people kept telling me, they were trying to help me get home. How does this someplace in a completely different state? Helped me get home I had no idea that it was like some. Supposed program that I was then going to enter need to then graduate in order to get home like they didn't say any of that. So I was still so confused as to why I'm naked in front of strangers being probed. If you guys are trying to help me get home I, don't live in Utah I've never lived in Utah and why am I naked y you know so they took all my belongings they gave me sweats and sweatpants. No Bra. No underwear nothing. and. They were the same color. Jail Yup absolutely, not kind of like deal exactly like. Little level fourteen lockdown You need keys get in and out of the building, and if it was on fire, you couldn't get out absolutely not I mean, I'm sure they had some sort of like emergency thing in play, but we never did drills or anything. So I don't even know what that would like to be completely honest. They give you a number they took away my name gave me a number just like prison absolutely and then I was isolated given a handbook and. Basically. The abuse started day one and we are told. When to speak when he's restroom how to sit where to look how to how to You can't look out the windows. There's no looking out the windows there's no one. Another kid is being dial nine. Do you can't look at you have to face the wall dial nine. So when they're about to a in there is a child is being unruly or out of control or there's some sort of explosive moment going on a staff member would reach for their walkie call for a dial nine and that means any available staff needs all come to wherever the down line is and I usually are then. Pinning the child down to try to. Restrain them Depending on the severity or the craziness of the moment they are sometimes even their pants were pulled down in, they're given like shot in there but of different drugs that will then drug them. And then they are taken to a place called odds which was thought was the place that Peres shed light on in the documentary and. Then their isolation and their punishment really begins. I. Think just while you're saying all this and I'm thinking of all of the things that I've watched on TV about Like girls incarcerated I think something I, watch on Netflix and stuff like that. I don't know that they ever. Talk about. How forceful they are. and how unnecessary it is to do some of the things that they do Excessive force would be. Like the exact statement because there is no reason to. Do any of what they did. Out especially, not in front of all of us, that was like a humiliation tactic as well. It was kind of like well, if this, if this can happen to them if you're not good, this will also happen. So so here's my thing you know we all know somebody or are struggling with mental illnesses ourselves. Places like this are GonNa make those things worse. They're not going to improve. Anyone's behavior or coping, and if you're drug immediately upon entering this program I, mean. Paris the documentary that as soon as you get there, you stand in line to get your pills every single day, and if you get caught trying to hide them or throw them away, you get punished absolutely and that's that's true. You go to the nurses station you stand in line. If you take your meds, you will be punished an. So instead you open your mouth and do like. Under the time. cheesy. And make sure that it's swallow and that's absolutely true. So you're being drugged you don't even know what's what you're even taking now if you've been need it nope and you're tired and you're walking around like a fucking Zombie and then forced to stay awake because you're not allowed to go take a nap. And then. I Dunno expected to act normal fucking human being right And then you think that this is going to rehabilitate me and get me to be a better member of society when I get out of. To leave better than I came when you're breaking me down even further nonetheless, I'm a child. So I'm still developing. So these are my formative years what what are we doing? were. Okay. Okay. So so it was so one year there for a long time before you're ever allowed access to your parents whether that's being able to write them letters or call them or get a visit. It's weeks months before anyone. Has Contact Right and again that's another like control strategy type aspect and. It was. A while before my mom I came for a visit and stuff but you. Know there's no, there's no adjustment or like learning curve. It's just like you quickly see what's happening in your always like so I remember every new person is like confused or we think Oh we don't have to sit just like that or do I really have to ask before I go pee things like you quickly learn like, yes you have to do all of those things and even the staff would say like fake it till you make it depending on like if it was a good staffer, bad staff and You've kind of learned and like some people made it harder on themselves. Some people faked it until they made it. But it's kind of like jail like you either figure out how it goes or you make your life harder and there's no like you said, there's no learning curve. No one. Explains why you're doing what you're doing or what the reason is it's just a lot of like. Expectations and you don't even really know how to yet. It's kind of like animals just being led to slaughter like they have no idea what's coming there just like going with the person leading them and. There are. Good staff, and then there are staff who are truly abusing what they're supposed to be doing and. Absolutely and sexually assaulting the kids that are in this quote unquote school. Absolutely. So not only being there. Did we face isolation from our family and our peers? We also faced neglect. Abuse and neglect I mean girls would go days without water. Their lips would be peeling off their face bleeding like neglect. In. Ways. That are in humane and we also we endured physical abuse. We also witnessed a lot of physical abuse. There was also a lot of sexual abuse. Anything. From. Inappropriate relations between staff in kids to. Rape Sodomy. Anything you can think of. And do the other soft is kind of turn their face or like what I. Would say it's Ignorance is bliss for one. And, two I think the staff that were good. Didn't necessarily know that this is what was on because their minds didn't even go there because they were good people right but I would say there were the good were. Few and far between. And Majority of the SAF abused their power and Kinda like Peres said, a lot of the staff got on a off on. Seeing us being treated less than or hurting us or seeing US naked or. Really pushing those boundaries and a lot of staff. Made. Things worse just by their their actions and I mean if you already are there because you've been sexually assaulted or you were molested by your dad or something like that, and then to then have. WHO's supposed to be safe in this caretaker that you're with and you're you're locked in a building with for months and years on end that's not helping anybody, right? And so there was just I mean the examples are crazy anything from. Starvation dehydration isolation sleep deprivation, and being drugged rape sodomy being dragged out of your bed having your haircut having your hair shave being. Being refused certain things like their girls that weren't ever given tampons and. That's crazy that you said that because I was GONNA ask. If if they have had their beds taken away and they have to sleep on. Another Unit Yeah What is that look like like? So I. Remember the first month people just saying like Oh look your bed. You'll lose your bed and I, remember just thinking, well, where am I going to sleep like? Are They GonNa make me sleep on the floor like what does that mean and what it really meant was you're gonNA lose the bed on the unit that you're on or the status that you've made within your program and you were going to go to a unit called investment and long term investment and not as basically you lose your bed on the privileged units which these privileges are not privileges right? They're still inhumane conditions. But you go even less than and you. Are really then bottom of the fucking barrel, and then they have even less tolerance for you on that unit because there is. Your the bad seed or you deserve to be there all those things and So when you Lose your bed You are even more of some of those I. Guess. Privileges. Privileged but You lose even more of. Of that when your bed is taken away or when you lose your status or when you get in trouble like that like I'm talking some girls that had like run plans and stuff, they would be given days and that means so many days inside. So if they had run plans and they were given a hundred days, they couldn't go outside for one hundred days. Outside now, when I say outside, let me just specify we never had like. Fresh Air Room to run like outside. We had a courtyard that was fenced in prison absolutely. So we can just run in circles around this courtyard. But then the people with days couldn't go out there and even go to the courtyard and the staff would punish people days with more days. So say you have run plans and they give one hundred days and then you get in trouble you get in trouble they're just gonNa keep giving you days to where there's you're never gonna see the Sun No, no. And it's kind of like you know the people will say like you're in jail, it's very easy to go back to jail. Once you've been on investment or lost your bed, it's very easy to then stay in trouble while you're there it's very difficult to then get off investment and re stake your claim on some of other unit or get back to those services. There's just so much so much. So I remember we had a conversation where it was like a you could be so hungry eat all your food but you're never allowed. You're pretty much never allowed to get more food never seconds aren't a thing you're okay but. Teenage kids eat a lot like they eat a lot they're hungry. They're growing even look at our boys link in each more than Grayson Lincoln is six years old could eat more than me. So it's like imagine like a teenage kid. But then if you are not hungry. You'll get in trouble if you don't eat. So if I was really famished that day like maybe I just you know just woke up really hungry or mommy period and I just want to like e you know ravage all the things. You can't have seconds and if you don't finish your food. So, say there was a day that I was just like really crappy and not that hungry and it was a different period day. It would be like, oh, you didn't eat enough scenario and beyond trae watch and then it's an eating disorder and it becomes this whole thing and I mean there were kids even like force fed with feeding tubes. Just because they weren't. Right. Path the meds that they put us on we're like appetite suppressants. So then how can you tell us that we need to finish our food or we need to eat more when you're pumping full of drugs they're killing appetite. We would also have to show our silverware before we could like clear our place to show that we're not like taking a knife spoon fork with us to our units I'm sure that there are people and kids that that need to be in places that really are. Are Safer you know them and their mental health like if there are serious issues absolutely but I don't think that. What you're describing to me make sense for. Most of the people that go there we'll know and. Every kid not most but every kid there whether they were on the girls camp, our boys campus. They need fucking love I mean I'm just sitting here thinking about my own children and and. Sometimes. I get frustrated. We all do as parents with our kids behavior. Sometimes I can't imagine sending my child somewhere away from me where I can't. Help Guide them back to where they need to be right like. Not, knowing what's going on especially in the world that we live in lake. So we were fundamentally failed by our caretakers whether that was our parents or. Whoever was the? The. Guardian. Minor Right we. Thought. You were failed by. Thank you. So not only were we. Sent away and punished for things that we needed help with. Majority of our parents and when I say majority I mean like ninety percent of the parents never even toward the facility. These parents never went to Utah themselves and and did the research met with these people they all took other people's word for it and a lot of people, their parents a lot of survivors their parents were referred by UCLA or by other facilities. So you can't tell me that there's not like money being made. Oh, it's. I told you this before it's the school to prison pipeline. It's it's like. When you're in prison, your chances of going back to prison are a lot higher. Well, when you're a teenager and you're in a school like this, that's actually a prison it's a what did you call it a level fourteen lockdown yes That's teenagers in prison. So where do you think that these people are going to end up when they come out? They're going to end up in prison because now that they've already gone through trauma before going there and there there's is there institutionalized and then further abused or neglected or starved or whatever the case may be, and then they're gonNA turn around. Get Out Act out again because they don't know how to handle all the Shannon there's no there's no part of the program set up to ease the transition. It goes from all of this to you leave go back to society, and there's I mean for the first year of being out I was still asking and raising my hand to go pee or. Like it, there was no way to like ease into being a productive member of society. They're just that wasn't part of the plan I. Just actually crazy especially for these kids because those that those are the years where okay. Now I'm graduating. What's supposed to be high school? So I should be trying to go to college or a trade school or or whatever that looks like. But then there's Absolutely. No resources they have no idea what the fuck they're supposed to be doing no not and and we don't even know how to like socially interact because we can't even talk freely to our peers while we're at the place. So everything was a learning curve upon leaving but like. There be. The neglect, any abuse really started when our caretakers. Didn't do any research like every parent knows and kind of instills in their child from day one like don't talk to strangers don't go is strangers stranger danger right and here are parents are just sending us. To not only. Live with strangers but like That haven't even proven to be trusted and these these. It's not for just like. An hour grocery run it's months and years at a time and I've done more research on dog groomers like as a parent myself. Now I look back and I'm just. Absolutely, disgusted with. The lack. Of. Protection the lack of research, the lack education I look at reviews before I buy most shit, right right and I can return that stuff you can't. You can't give your mom can't give that year of your life back to you to Redo so that she doesn't send you there so that you know what I mean like she can't take that back now. So the fact that she didn't tour and then she trusted strangers to. I mean I. Don't know any parent who's GonNa let their kids sleep over at their friend's house. If they don't know the parents, right? You know what I mean. Them two states away where you then can't. No No. Is telling the parents won't have access to them until they're this far along in their program and even. I don't know your mom I only know you but like looking through much. Thinking about how Paris's Mom reacted in the documentary is kind of similar to how I would picture your mom reacting. Yeah I. Absolutely like nothing there. Doesn't understand the magnitude of what you put me through type of situation, and then like Paris's mom was like, oh, she never told me that and it's like well, what did you think? Where did you think you were sending me without touring it for one if at any point during our stay there, we were trying to tell our parents about the abuse or neglect, and we were trying to explain why we so desperately wanted out. We for one are mail was read before it went out before it like when it came in before we got. So there was always hands in everything. Our phone calls were recorded art therapy sessions weren't safe because our parents were involved I mean there was really nothing that there was no self like sense of autonomy or privacy or. Any of those things and. I think that even if we told them and we had a moment to say, Hey, I was sodomized utility closet or hey, I was I was happened happened. In real attorneys or hey, I was choked and I had a knee on my chest while they try to shove pills down my throat every time I open my mouth to get to gas for air again another. event. I think had we had the ability to get those moments with our parents. I truly don't our parents would have come for us or believed us I do know a few parents did that once they finally had a moment with their child and their child was able to divulge exactly what was going on a few parents stepped in and we're like, okay, this is not a thing. But for the most part. We were already labeled as like crazy crazy. Enroll wayward teens and all this and it didn't help the program and the staff and all that knew that they prey on parents just like Karen. The business and the there's a reason that they're teen. The troubled teen industry is so profitable and there's a reason that it still exists and because there's money to be made so. They would intervene and basically say, oh, she's manipulating. We got to end the phone call she's manipulating and then I would be punished. So I think that had for one a lot of my trauma and abuse I didn't. I don't know I didn't realize that that's what was happening and I saw so many. Get worse treatment that I guess in my mind mind wasn't that bad and I witnessed more than I experienced but that itself was like living in a war zone. If you love. TV. But you hate the size of your cable bill. Filo is your solution. It is live and on demand for just twenty dollars a month, and it is the best way to watch the H. One nickelodeon food network and more than fifty other channels. My TV constantly stays on Nickelodeon and I love watching food network. 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So There was a lot of abuse, but the sexual abuse I really had no awareness of it until just earlier this year and I was there from two thousand, three to two, thousand, four. So it's been. A decade rest memory. Absolutely. So what I know and I have pieces of are being woken up in the middle of the night. Taken to a really bright hallway I remember there being two or three chairs and just like blinding lights and you know when you go from like. To like light, they're blinding, right. And of course, we can't talk. We can't ask why we're there. We can't ask the person next to us what they had done we there's nothing. So. There were I believe three different times I know I sure that it happened but I'm not sure if more if it happened more right but I would be woken up in the middle of the night escorted to that bright hallway, and then I'd be called in by nurse Practitioner Kathy Black. And I would have. Various. Like vaginal examinations performed whether it was with in one year, you were there for one year I was there for thirteen months and I had pap smears and different examinations at least three times. You're not sexually active while you're there. No, and you had no reason to do that I. I ever was the day after I got to Utah. They woke me up in the middle of the night and I remember early early. I told her league virgin and they were like we we don't care and I remember telling her like this is my first path like this is. A big deal and she was just like didn't care didn't believe didn't believe that I was a virgin behavioral place. This is not a place where you need to like I don't write help me make it make sense. It doesn't Okay. So an unknown situation in normal. Everyday life we go to the weekend a colleague at once a year as an annual exam. If something comes back abnormal, you go twice a year a year right the fact that you remember in thirteen months you remember at least three times as more is an issue. Yeah absolutely and I. Again, I didn't think of it at the time of course, not because at the time you have no idea what the fuck is going on the we we didn't know from home ground. And I think one of them weird I think one of the weirdest things about how they do it like. Why wrong in the middle of the night I like when when I lived there all year round three, sixty, five like. There's not another time and place like it's again it's a control thing. It's a it's a submissive thing because if we can get you while you're vulnerable and asleep just like when the escorts come like they're you know and it's very hush than the. Kids on that unit don't know what's happening, and so I think the creepiest part was that I would be waking up in my woken up in my sleep taken to have these procedures and exams done and then I would. Put back to sleep. They would take back to my bed and I would be expected to go back to sleep and then wake up with the rest of the unit like nothing had happened and. Because that way they can say that never happened absolutely that never happened never happened right you. You're dreaming you're crazy right and I mean on top of waking up with nightmares because I would happen a lot in the beginning I wake up and not know where I was I would wake up and just be disoriented and trying to place really quickly visually where I was and one thing I really remember is the wallpaper that bordered the ceiling because I would like daas what would help me place it like Oh yeah you're still here. Okay. Okay. I think that. Part of the reason they do that is to really disorient us like just like there's no clocks in a casino kind of thing that way you just get lost play in the slots and you just give more money more money. Right? You don't really know what's what and at that point like you're tired you're sleep deprived and like you said, we're not allowed to sleep. We can't fall asleep in fact, be severely punished even if you rested your head because that means it's run plans automatically that means you're going to run away tonight that brought me to another point that we talked about after the documentary was so. These places have girls and boys that are different ages, but they are not truly educated in a way that they should be because a teacher can't teach. Five. Different age groups in the same classroom. What they need to be taught right. Was Pretty much a joke. So if there's like a ten year old in there and a seventeen year old economics. Or mathematics right like what are they taking from that? Nothing. So where exactly in this program is the rehabilitation like where is it? I? Don't believe there's any because in the school area there's none. So the rehabilitation as far from from what you tell me what I know about you is like. Okay, you're doing chores and cleaning. You can potentially do laundry. You're going to sit in a classroom where you're not truly learning and you couldn't even get if you were to leave there and go back to a regular school. You wouldn't even be able to keep your GPA where needed to be because you'd be so fucking far behind absolutely. So like where is the rehabilitation school all year round so how is there such a disconnect when we don't get three months off in the summer? We don't get a Christmas break. We don't the only time we're off is Saturday Sunday. And even then we're deep cleaning units because there's no janitorial you know employees there's you know we're doing all of this. Slave Labor for free and we're minors and and. And, but not even learning anything that could help you to get into college. Now, get into community college to get into a trade school to do any of those things like high schools. Now have pathways that you get to pick to like kind of gear yourself up to go to do whatever you want to do in trade school or college or not talk of college or the future. It was. So where's the rehabilitation? Paris, his parents European. Your your mom and other people's mom I mean come on now. Right? You don't think bigger picture. Of the problem right now but we don't know exactly how this is going to solve the problem, but we're going to send you there. Anyway my knee jerk response when he said, where is the rehabilitation rehabilitation? It's It's It's nowhere I would say it's with the parents, but it's not the parents aren't doing any work on their and they're not changing their not now they learning into the rain system they the break. They get to no because no, no no no I'm not saying it's right. Thinking about okay. Well, I don't want to deal with this right like if I'm thinking of one of my kids and they're acting out, I don't want to deal with this send them away. No because eat me alive knowing that this. Could cause more damage than good and then you can't take it back. But most of these parents didn't necessarily know that that's what it is. In fact most of these parents they don't know what it is and they shouldn't be going there absolutely and I agree with you. Kathy Hilton and you know my mom and people like that link in their mind they're doing the best they could what other option I don't believe. We've already talked about won't try any other options, but in mind Oh, I can sleep safe because I know where she's laying her head at night. You don't know they're so and so's being sodomized utility 'cause it. What you don't know is that so and so's being starved. What you don't know is that we're being physically beat what you don't know is that kids try to run away and they die. Period. So as much as parents tried to tell themselves. I'm sleeping better at night I'm there safe. I know what they're doing. No they really don't and they're not safe. No one safe in the schools. Schools Schools Air air quotes guys big air quotes Okay. So Rachel is a part of a facebook group that is survivors of. So. She did ask if there was anyone that wanted their story to be told or you know would be comfortable with that and so. Two people. Multiple people people reached did have a story that you wanted to share I did so I. Like I said, there's so much to be two more than what we've talked even more. Yeah. You guys really it's. It's crazy how much depth there is an how many different stories and how many levels of abuse and neglect there really was what we didn't talk about how they change hands every three years, they sell it every three years staff new all the time so that they the statute of limitations is two year. Yeah. So Statute of limitation is two years, which is a joke because like I said, most of us are still trying to reenter society those first two years we I mean with my suppressed memories, they didn't come up till this year. What was I supposed to do with those first two years? And because they know. That program really is the people that run it. They constantly are changing hands and selling it every few years that way they can say like, oh I I can't speak on one so owned because I've only been here since this time. So and the no longer works here right as we changed owners lost a turnover lots of. Changing hands and so there's never any type of like. Crumbs or accountability because of all those things and even now with all the press and everything in everything coming to light. This is Paris. was contacted by because it's still open pcs was contacted by several media platforms and they basically said Oh we. We can't speak on anything that happened during Miss Hilton stay because we sold it was sold and bought out in two thousand they started the other but me and. All of the people I attended? PCs with and all of the survivors in our group can speak before during and after Perez Hilton stay. So I was there two, thousand, three, two, thousand, four. Okay. Let's talk who owned it then 'cause I mean you have similar stories that Parasad in which she went and what's your I wanna say like eight to ninety nine. Or Ninety seventy nine to ninety eight right around then. Okay. So you went. Shortly thereafter Jassem very long. It wasn't too long after, but long enough that they had switched ownership things have changed. Okay. So like I said I reached how and a lot of people were. Honestly. I'm so proud of this group like. We've carried this shame and guilt for so many years but we are finding our voice and we are we are. Standing in our truth and Even though it's terrifying, we are adamant. On. Shedding light and making waves and getting these stories out there because it is something that. Needs to be changed, eliminated and rethought I'm not saying that there shouldn't be programs to help rehabilitate kids really help rehabilitate ability pcs was not that and many of the programs in this. Industry are not that So what I have is a little bit of. A. STORY LITTLE TIDBIT FROM A. Fellow survivor from PCs Her name is Lisa and she was there from. Nineteen Ninety eight nine hundred ninety, nine, And her number was three, twenty five. She. kind of had a stereotypical troubled teen background. So she was dating older guys running away experienced minting with drugs. And what she really need was you know structure and love and comfort, but her mom couldn't be bothered. She was actually there at the same time as parasol didn't. Overlap overlapped. And she too was taken by transporters abused by her therapist which all of our therapy situations like they were not safe like you should never be punished for your thoughts and feelings and we were and it wasn't therapy. She was abandoned by her mom her mom refused to talk to her on the phone or visit her But aside from her mom where it really got crazy is what was happening behind the locked doors so For wine she? Her therapist was constantly abusing her and. physically verbally and mentally. Abusing her based on her issues or things that she had experienced and this was really interesting to me. She was put on a coin flip program and she had to relinquish control to the flip of a daily coin flip that determined whether she'd be able to speak choose her own clothing, etc.. So every day she would have to flip a coin to see whether she had control over her decisions or not, and that is not. Abnormal. Girls on No. No talk standing orders where they could not speak. There were all sorts of crazy. Like had to wear gloves like they were crazy or what about people who actually have mental illnesses that that wouldn't be able to do those things they would be punished for being mentally ill absolutely, and they would most of those people spent majority of their time on investment. or or Dima who were mentally ill that actually had that needed help. Oh Yeah. I moved up in their in their program and made it to the next status because it's not what it's built to do. She also, this several stone, her way which just like mind blowing to me this one. She also had what is called the box program. She had to carry a heavy box with her everywhere which was supposed to symbolize her issues. This wasn't a small box. It was a huge forty, two inch TV box before TV's were flat they fill it with two liter soda bottles and it got up to thirty pounds at one point. She had to take it everywhere including Pe and running laps. So she had to run carrying this I mean if you already have issues, you really pile on or like let alone what like that's what I need me standing orders and these programs are. Crazy like what are we actually learning? What are we actually taking away from that? She then went on to have back problems as an adult and she. She was also involved in attack therapy where I was a part of this witness this. They would put one girl in the middle of the circle and we all would have to pick apart and tell her like her weaknesses or strengths or like it was. Terrible She She graduated from High School, when she left PC graduated high school and life got much worse. She has PTSD. And a major inability to assimilate into society she started using drugs and everything in the world overwhelmed her with having all those choices, all that freedom, and so she kind of had to start healing all over again and really start. From zero as soon as she left and. I think that. A. Lot of different people have similar stories, but each one has their own personal twist but really stood out to me because. If we're learning. Self control an impulse control and we're learning like mental fortitude and emotional maturity, and we're supposed to be learning all these things. How does a coin flip? Held her how does one day having control and one day? Not how does how does carrying a box around? Instead you're just humiliating her and making her life that much harder and I it's just it's not anything that she's now like, Oh, I'm so loud I carried that thirty pound box around because now I am relieved of all my issues. No. Now she has back problems. I think there's a lot to be said about a lot of the people that That you told me about or or just listening to the pair's documentary. One year doesn't doesn't sound like a huge deal right like to the rest of us, right? Oh. It's just just sixteen seventeen. Oh, just fifteen to sixteen or oh, just eighteen. You know what I mean like you think of one year and you're like, Oh, just that just one year it's not that bad. But when you really think about. The time in your life where you need all of those things like you're going through so much. It's a transition period where you're like. Not yet an adult but like kind of getting there and you're already like you said, what we've said one hundred times on this. You know we already having issues that one year is so crucial absolutely and to be honest like it's like you're being brainwashed, you're not just being brainwashed from we're being groomed completely for. Some girls are there for more than a year that's exactly what I was GONNA say. So as much as you can say, Oh, a year, some of these girls come in at twelve and don't leave till. They're eighteen. If they're ward of the state, some of these girls who are in and out of trouble who runaway, who do all these things their program is three years because they don't they don't graduate or people that parents are like, no, they're not coming home to their eighteen. They have to age out of the system like I was there for thirteen months but I know people that were there for years. But even. 'cause I think. Another part of my opinion on the whole thing was just that I feel like she I wish she would have went more in depth about it because she was only there for eleven months, but those eleven months. You, it that Short period of time can undo everything before then absolutely and and basically reteach you an improper and unhealthy way to cope with things and to handle things and develop new things and and habits, and all of those things you know what I'm saying absolutely. So. I just wish that they talk more about that and I just I don't know I'm I'm proud of you guys for having that group because I feel like while it still hurts and you're still recovering from all of that like you had. You do have each other. So that's the one thing in all of this it's like. In my everyday life, I can't relate to anyone and no one can relate to me because even if I tell them even if they no details like you and I've been, you know open and vulnerable with them, they can't truly grasp the magnitude of what I've been through but. The fellow survivors, the fellow students they can, and so when it feels like, no one understands or Tim Mossel to communicate. In adequate. Descriptive manner these people lived it they no I don't. I don't have to paint that picture. They know exactly what I mean, and so that has been absolutely amazing and a crucial part of. I. Feel like all of healing is the fact that we we aren't alone and that. Even, if we never get those apologies, we never get those relationships repaired. We know that. We matter to each other right and that's like a big thing because like you said, it was a year but that year can undo all of the healthy thing off it costs me cost you your entire future absolutely it it affects all of my interpersonal relationships myself worth my. The way I think about things where react to things what I have P. T. S. D. to like like what I react to what triggers it. It affects the way I mother it affects being mom it affects. Being a productive member of society, it affects all of my intimate relationships and like. That night in November of two thousand and two was already going to do all that I didn't need more more punishment and. All it did was about one year. It ruined the rest of the years. And I. Know. That our parents look back and they're like. But. We did the best we could or but I don't buy it and I don't either. But I think that they are so ridden with guilt and shame they can't even bring themselves to the fact that like while I, fucked up and I like neglected my child and I failed them and maybe this is why they look at me that way and I think for a lot of survivors. Being taken from our families and being kept away. So when we got home, they wanted to be a part of their family. So even if it meant talking about it or sweeping it under the rug, they want their family to welcome him back with open arms whereas there's a lot of people like myself who could give to Fox now you resent them out. We're absolutely also you have all notes that we're supposed to be safe weren't safe aren't safe still aren't safe. They have no integrity I don't trust them I. don't trust most people and. If anything. My mom doing quote unquote the best she could cost her her daughter. And her grandson. Yeah. I have no relationship with my aunt Susan. I I. Yeah. I mean now that you think now that you say that it's kind of like. Dick all the kids that go. There would be excited to go home back to their families and south but I think I would hold onto the resentment like you don't even know what you just did. Exactly. You don't even in now. I don't even know I don't I. I would be where you're at right and and like you and I've talked about like. A remnant of like Stockholm Syndrome to where like we're supposed to love our captors our parents are paying for our our our parents are paying to keep us locked in a building. Our parents are paying or the state is paying and the parents are agreeing to even if they're not financially supporting it, they're the guardians they've signed these paperwork. They've ultimately let this happen but really. They're hurting us but then we're expected to go home to them. Like it doesn't make any sense like we would be groomed to earn visits and earn privileges to be able to have visits with those families, the families, but then see us, and even if we got off grounds, visits got to leave our parents but then take us back. So like what kind of twisted thing is that where like I'm counting down the days until my mom comes she is the reason I'm here we get some pedicures and then she's going to take me back and then I just got a countdown to the next visit like that is some twisted shit and then all the sudden, the trauma, the abuse, the love, it's all one. It's all one and at that point, how do you make? Up. From. Down Back from front there's there's you can't. There's no way not especially not at the age because no, we know our brains are literally forming like our emotional intelligence is forming like all these. Bodies aren't even physically done growing and we have grown men on our chests on our next we have you know I mean. I don't know. There's just there's there's so much to be said about. Looking. For help or looking for relief from the parents aspect to really like. What we were getting and and what that brings about full circle because really. I want to say like this statistic was like eighty percent like it was like eighty percent of like if you were there, you were more than likely to end up in jail or prison and most of those. People then went on to have some sort of something whether they then went on to us. They became like sexually promiscuous or they had interpersonal issues or they never took meds again and maybe they needed those med right things like that never looked back on therapy like for me I I was completely against therapy from the moment I left up until earlier this year and even when my Marriage was falling apart. I was adamant about not going to therapy I absolutely refused will now come to find out what be actually as and all the all the growth and healing that can be done in a safe space like I mean, it's just it's crazy. It's another world it's another life, and unless you were behind those doors and given a number, you can't understand it. You can't. and. There is something to be said about the Breaking Code Silence Movement, and what we're trying to do because we are really trying. Raise awareness raise awareness but. Save, these kids 'cause known enter saved us. Yeah. So the Hashtag is breaking code silence. Okay and people can find that on Instagram facebook twitter. Yes or they could go directly to bring could silence website as well? Oh I didn't know there was website. Yeah. Okay and there are videos to watch and. There's so much education. To be had on the topic because like I said, these these places they do prey on troubled teens they prey on weak parents they prey on private funded people and so it's It's definitely. A monster it's not just neglectful parents. It's not just wayward teens. It's not just. Abuse of power. It's all of it under one roof, right? So the website is. Reagan Codes Islands Dot Com I believe. So it's not definitely start with the HASHTAG. Okay. Well, thank you for sharing your story and I really appreciate you obviously being here because we're best friends but just being a part of it and willing to share your story on our podcast. So if you guys have not. Seen the documentary. It's this is Paris on Youtube Rita was it's on Paris Hilton's channel on Youtube. So go watch it and we'll see you next week.

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Paris Hilton | The Not So Simple Life | 2

Even the Rich

47:29 min | 2 weeks ago

Paris Hilton | The Not So Simple Life | 2

"Just a heads up. We might say a few four letter words during this episode. Because you know it's fun. It's two in the morning on a late summer night in two thousand. It's a quiet residential road just north of sunset boulevard nineteen year old paris is standing in front of an imposing wrought iron gate it guards a two point five acre estate in holmby hills which happens to be in the same neighborhood as the playboy mansion. Ooh and it's where kylie jenner just want a house for thirty six point five million dollars correct which means whatever is on. The other side is probably pretty nice. Paris grabs onto the gate and gives it a shake. it's locked. She knows what she has to do. It's been a year and a half since she left utah behind and now it's time to get to work on the promise she made to herself. She's going to be so big. No one will ever be able to control her again. The gates squeaks loudly as she starts to climb when she reaches the top she looks down. It's a big jump. If she lands wrong she could break a leg Hell it'll be worth it though. Okay and why is an heiress breaking and entering. Well is it considered a crime if it's your family's house because this house actually belongs to her grandparents barron in maryland hilton and right now. They're vacationing in saint bart's or this was alps or one of other places. Rich people go when peres brushes herself off. She opens the big iron gates and motions to pickup truck. It rumbles up the driveway to a circular motor court that easily fits more than a dozen cars. The truck stops in front of a white brick two story colonial style mansion. A man gets out. He's in his thirties. Handsome and dark and wears a blue knit cap. It's photographer david. Lachapelle paris caught. David is one night as she danced on a table. In a crowded nightclub he was so struck by the way she lit up a room that he knew that he had to take our picture. And now here. She is about to break into her grandparents. Estate technically actually. I think she's already broken in true but now they're breaking into the house. The bolt clicks open as paris turns the key and then the alarm david handovers ears in frowns but paris just laughs as she punches the keypad with her pink bills in the silence that follows david lugs in his camera equipment and takes a look around it takes a while there are thirteen bedrooms. Seventeen bathrooms every one of them decorated with fancy furnishings. You get rich people furniture stores. He wanders into a cavernous living room filled with antiques. Paris tells him it's the room where they celebrate christmas. David nods this is it. It's the perfect spot to have paris pose. Every inch of it says old money and every inch of paris does not not today anyway. Her blonde hair is messy and loose like a rockstar and she wears a super super super short pink. Satin skirt and matching pink fingerless gloves on her hands. Even or pink lipstick matches. But it's the black see-through through fish tank top. That's the most shocking. It leaves nothing to the imagination. Nothing well this is the podcast and all we have our nation's thank you so much for painting this picture. paris poses. David shoots pose. Click owes quick and then he stops something. Is that right. Where's the essence of paris. That women with the attitude. He saw dancing in the club. But he's not giving up. He takes his hand off the shutter and flips her the bird. Fuck you harris blinks. Is he serious yes. She has a lot riding on this photo. Shoot but who does he think. He is flipping her off hair sticks out her middle finger in front of her face. Fuck you and food. That's the one in that moment and iconic images captured on film one that will define the paris persona as a rich bitch with attitude for days an image that will help bring her freedom and fame but what neither she nor lachapelle knows at this moment. is that paris's image will also become a prison sentence. One that will last twenty years. From wonder i'm a risha skidmore williams and brooks and this is even the rich in our last. Episode harris was stuck in solitary confinement at that horrible school in provo canyon utah. That's where she made a vow she's going to be famous and the in charge of her own life from now on only it was that simple. Yeah it's not. This is episode to the not so simple life. Okay let's back up a year to february. Nineteen ninety nine when paris turns eighteen. She's now an adult and the provo canyon. School has no choice except to release her when she boards a plane back to new york city. She doesn't look back literally. She doesn't tell anyone about what happened when she gets home. Not her friends not her parents. Not even her sister nikki she just stuff sit down locks the door and throws away the key but something inside of her has changed. She's riddled with anxiety and insomnia. Most nights she wakes up in the middle of the night covered in sweat. Yeah of course she does. She's traumatized extremely and that traumas making it hard for her to keep it together but paris made a promise to herself one. She plans to keep she's going to be famous. Okay so brooke. Imagine you're paris hilton. You've just escaped the worst experience of your life and now you're going to make sure no one can control you ever again. But how do you get famous if you are an actor or serial killer when all you have is your famous last name now remember. This is before any social media. So what would you do. This is a lot of rhetorical questions. Arista okay well clock is ticking. Okay okay. I got it. I would scale the mtv building topless Request five well. That's not her plan. Paris is going to start small kind of small. She's going to conquer the city. She lives in new york but in a city of eight million people. How do you do that. Let's break it down to get noticed you have to stand out. So decides to create her own style sort of designer couture meets frederick hollywood picture a leper jumpsuit. Cut down to her belly. Button with a crystal choker. That looks like a cat collar. That's one of the outlets. She wore back then bringing halloween to everyday love. Her own goal is to be noticed right and so she takes her hot look to the coolest clubs in the city and welcomes every chance to be photographed. There's this one i love. She's wearing this tiny sparkley lilac dress. It's super low pod. And she has this cute pixie hairstyle. She's dancing. her head is thrown back is closed. I mean she had to have known someone was taking this picture but our faces lake. Go ahead and judge. I don't give a shit. What you think i'm fabulous hell. Yes i mean. It's hard to go wrong with outfit. If you're paris. The girl looks good in everything. Even when she's wearing a tracksuit she manages to blend it out with some rhinestones and big sunglasses. Oh and you know her blue eyes yeah fake. They're not really blue. Wait what nope she puts blue contacts over her. Naturally brown is well. And then there's voice the infamous baby voice yet. Not really either. She used to do the voice with her dad when she wanted something. It worked so well so she probably figures what the hell maybe. It'll get me what i want now to and it does. The press loves her baby voice. It fits with the whole package. It's like part of her official public persona. No one knows if she's for real. I mean as she. I don't know maybe but in some ways i think she's just coping you know she's nineteen years old and following the footsteps of her mom and her grandmother and i'm sure she's trying to build some walls between her in utah but i also think she's smart as hell. She's controlling this image. Not anyone else. Harris likes being the center of attention. She demanded she claims that she dances on tables because she doesn't like sweat. But it seems more like it's a way of saying. Hey look at me and the whole thing is starting to work. Photographers are intrigued. They find are much more interesting than the average rich kid clubbing. Who hides in the shadows with bottle service. Yeah they're not wrong but being seen clubs is just one piece of making the paris brand. She makes a splash in the fashion world. She walks in shows for designers like and bowen heather at and she appears in magazines spreads. The new yorker calls her many girl. There's just one minor problem. Her new images sexy and desirable. But it's also ditsy. The new paris is a walking dumb blonde joke and the more sexy and did cnn titled she seems the more likely page six is to print it. I mean i get it. Who'd wanna read about paris's opinions on tolstoy's war and peace. I mean i kinda would actually. That'd be interesting. But back in two thousand reporting on paris running topless around the pool at the hard rock hotel in las vegas sells more papers. Harris figures out what the press wants and gives it to them. The outrageous closed the scandalous behavior and the blond airhead persona on october fifteenth. Two thousand the new york post page six runs an expose featuring a photo of paris and some of her trust fund friends with famous last names in the picture there dancing on top of the table. The headline reads debutante. They ain't broke. You wanna read it hell. Yeah queen let me just put on my news voice really quick. They're young and sinful with multimillion dollar. Trust funds and their families are household names but their penchant for night crawling. Some of them in micro-minis fishnet tops and four inch heels is upsetting their blue blooded elders. Who think they're picking up a trashy reputation. Meet the daring heiresses of new york. Social scene the most outrageous is hotel. Darling paris hilton nineteen a part time model with a tendency to flash. Her thong gone are the days of debutante and coming out parties when young heiresses would meet for stuff the afternoon meals at the four seasons to discuss fashion philanthropy and their trust runs today their social vexans who swap prim and proper personas for attitude without caring that the media is chronicling every intimate and often embarrassing moment first of all a nail that second. It looks like her plan to take over. New york is working. First of all juliana ransack. When you join even the rich second it is. The city is hers but paris wants to be more than a blurb on page six. She wants to take this act to a bigger stage. One where she'll be featured in national magazines get into elite parties and make millions. She may come from money but she wants to make her own. That's what she gets the call that will change her life. Remember those pictures. She took with david. Lachapelle fuck you. That's the one a couple weeks after she breaks entire grandparents house. David calls to give her the good news. He sold the pictures to vanity fair photos of her and her sister are going to run in the september. Two thousand issue vanity fair at the time is about as in as it gets. Every famous celebrity seems to land on the cover at some point in their career. Shirley sperone natalie portman cate blanchett. This is a chance. She's been looking forward to launch her into the stratosphere. It's the end of the summer of two thousand. paris nervously. sips ice tea. She's at her family's summer home in southampton waiting for visitor. The guard of the gatehouse rings up sales this year. Letter through paris calls back. Nancy joe is one of vanity fair's most prolific feature writers and. She's here to write the story. That will go with photos david talk. There's only one problem. Her mother kathy is here and she's got a very different idea about the image parachute portray. She wants the world to see her daughter as an old school heiress. Apparently she even made paris take etiquette lessons when she was younger. Oh my god. We should take an etiquette class for a few percents. god anyway. Protecting the hiltons reputation name is copies primary job and she's not about to let paris unleash the page six version to the world. She's already tried to shut the photos down. But no luck there. The best she can do now is try to control the article. Which is why paris's worried. She knows no one wants to read about or old fashioned anything. They want something new. She's also smart enough to know that her mom's worries aren't totally unfounded. David's photos might just make her look like a spoiled heiress but she has her own wishlist for this interview. She wants to make sure. Nancy jo knows that she's building a career to nancy sits down to lunch but before anyone can find the right fork. Nancy jumps right in. Is it true that paris went to the moon. Book club in the city wearing fishnet stockings. A see through camisole in a thong page six says she did. Cathy shakes her head. Absolutely not paris is the most modest girl. Okay how did little kathy not make it as an actress. I mean. maybe she's still will. Kathy tells nancy joe that paris is quiet girl who doesn't like the spotlight. Paris doesn't contradict her. It's not true but she loves her mom she goes along with it but she also make sure to tell nancy how hard she's been working on her career. I imagined she's even dropped her baby voice when she says to. Nancy people think. I'm just this party girl. Well i'm not like that. I don't just go to parties. I wake up in the morning and go to auditions nancy's like right. You have a movie coming out soon. Are we at the in the naughty now. still no. this is an indie thriller called sweetie pie. It's about a group of wealthy kids in southern california who get too much too soon and peres nabbed the title role. Oh okay but her character is killed off in the opening scene. Oh okay but it's her first real movie gig. It could be a tiny step forward on. The road to stardom and paris is helping this. Vanity fair article will help. But when nancy talks payers friends. The picture they paint isn't of a serious career gal on the rise one says paris goes out every night jumping on tables looking for attention. Another one says it's like all she wants to do is become famous to wipe out the past to become somebody else while as it turns out they were right. Yeah but it will be years before anyone knows that the pair doesn't know anything about these comments not yet. She's too excited for the magazine to come out and one at arrives. She's thrilled six. Glossy pages are dedicated to her and her sister including the iconic picture of paris flipping david off and she looks good then. She reads the article. It paints her as a spoiled reckless rich girl without a care in the world. Let me read an excerpt. A friend describes how paris behaves when she enters a hotel belonging to the family which includes the waldorf astoria. She'll like to the waldorf lake snap. Snap to the desk clerk. You give me a key with that. Glaring i like. She's zsa zsa gabor. Something grabs the key out of their hand. Like tell them to send room service now. I wonder what she ordered peres. Parents are not happy. This isn't what kathy told the reporter at all and rick. Well he's a private person. And here's his daughter in skimpy clothes flipping off the world and paris's grandparents barron maryland are even more disappointed. The photos were taken inside their house. For god's sakes for what it's worth paris's other grandmother. Kathy is thrilled to her presses. Bad press all. She sees her granddaughter in vanity fair. She's on her way to start. 'em harris starts to see it that way too so. Nancy didn't publish much about her career but at least she's in a national magazine. Now she just needs to sit back and wait for the world to take notice but then nothing really changes nothing while the article does give her more juice in new york page. Six writes about her nine times by the year. Two thousand and seventeen times in two thousand and she gets better seats at new york fashion week. But new york isn't the world but then she gets an offer apart in ben stiller movie zoo leander except she's playing herself or she playing persona she created. Yet it's like super meta paris's playing a role in public life and is then hired to play herself in a movie but playing herself is actually playing a role. She'll later say that. She has trouble differentiating them because character has become such a part of her she even uses it in her dating life whenever a boyfriend got mad at her. She'd go into her baby voice and say i'm sorry i didn't mean to then they just forgive her damn it. I've been to sarcastic my whole life. I would never get away with that. So we who is she dating. Well there's a river. She hooks leonardo dicaprio though. She denies it well. That is a crazy coincidence. I dated him. But once i hit twenty-seven he tried to put me in a nursing home. Didn't work out right. That definitely checks out next few days. Bad boy edward. Furlong the kid from terminator two in american history x but the relationship fizzles out after only eight months when edward goes to rehab but then paris meets a guy who will steal her heart and then stomp all over it. It's june two thousand one paris's inside a hotel bathroom twirling her blonde hair up into two little pigtails. She wears a black lace bra black panties and black leggings. Oh here we go yup in walks rick. Salomon paris's boyfriend tonight. He's wearing a robe and holding a camcorder and he wants to make a movie. We all know what comes next. Yep the sex tape. Paris has no idea what's going on yet. All she knows is she's in love with this guy. he's a professional poker player and does pretty well chief and introduced him to the family and they liked him even her mother. Kathy and we know how productive she is so paris. Feel safe with rick and she's used to being his news she says you're like obsessed always filming me but tonight is different tonight. He doesn't want to film her putting her hair. He wants to film the two of them having sex. She's not into it while she likes getting her picture taken when she's out on the town. This is intimate private. According to paris rick wouldn't let up. No one will ever see it. He tells her it's just for them. Paris still isn't interested. Finally he says. Oh you're so boring. should i just call someone else. And that's when she gives in she doesn't want to lose him and when it's over she forgets all about it a few months later they split and paris is heartbroken. Wreck was her first love. And the first person since provost. She really trusted now. He's gone the nightmares and bad memories. Start creeping back in. Which could be why she gets tinkerbell. Tinker bell tanks as paris calls are is a five pound. Brown short chihuahua in paris takes her everywhere from shopping at saks. Fifth avenue to an appearance on jay leno tanks. Travels i inside. Paris's are mesdaq. The dog is accessory becomes. Part of paris's look and suddenly chihuahuas takeoff in popularity. Take everyone wants one. The handbag dog has become a thing. Paris has no longer just a page six areas. She's started a national trend. Things are looking up. But then in march she gets a call that sends her sideways. Big kathy is gone breast cancer. Oh man paris is devastated. Her grandmother was her biggest cheerleader. The one person who always believed she'd be famous but not even a loss like this can slow our girl down. Paris is going to do everything she can to prove her grandmother right. If she's going to break out of new york she needs to do something new something big in a place where you can throw a rock and hit someone. Famous paris is going to hollywood. It was a tough year. Which is why taking care of. Your health is of the utmost importance totally. We always want to be your healthiest solves and things to our sponsor fit track. 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Richie and his calls would leave thousands wondering if he really was the serial killer he claimed to be until ritchie offered to provide proof to politics. Would you expect for me to send pictures line. Someone here the apology. Line premiers on january nineteenth on apple podcasts. Or you can listen ad free on january twelfth by wonder plus in the wondering app wondering field story. Mama it's two thousand to one of those perfect california days not a cloud in the sky. Paris's dressed professionally. Her hair pulled back. She drives to santa monica. She wipes the sweat away from her palms as she turns into the valet. She's about to head into one of the most important meetings of her life. A meeting with a talent management company. The firm wait is it really called the firm like the windsors. Yup it is paris hand keys to the valet and heads inside. The firm manages a list actors. like says robert deniro. j. lo and hitmaker's like kelly clarkson. Snoop dogg and britney spears. Paris is hoping they'll take her on as a client to. She's always wanted to be famous and she is but she wants to be famous for more than just being famous. If you know what i mean. Yeah like famous for more than having the last name hilton or for more than dancing unable at a club exactly. She's already established model and she's gotten a few small parts in movies now. She wants to take her acting career to the next level in. Try her hand at singing to if she can get the firm to sign her. She'll be wrecked alongside oscar and grammy winners. Then people will have to take her seriously an assistant escorts her to a large conference room for managers and one assistant said at a long table. All of them in suits she sits at the far end after the pleasantries. They get down to business. So what movies have you been in harris hesitates. Well i was in an independent film called sweetie pie and they're like never heard of it. What else zealander you play yourself. In that movie right embarrasses. Like yeah. I was damn good at it but then the guy running the meeting stands up and says well. It was a pleasure to meet you paris. So that's that paris things but then he says we'll put a contract together. They signed her. They signer wow. I wish i had it that easy true story. I cried when i left my first agent meeting. I mean at least you've managed to get a first agent meeting base still haven't returned my calls true anyway. Walks out feeling like a million bucks of course ready for the next chapter of her life but then time passes and she barely hears from her team at the firm. It's like they don't know what to do with her. she's just famous for being famous. Which is kind of a joke in august. Two thousand and two. It hits home for paris when g. q. Runs a seven. Page spreads spoofing her and her sister. Nikki the parody features the fictional marriott. Sisters marietta spelled with one t so as not to be confused with the hotel of the same name. Oh yeah that's not confusing at all. I mean it's better than the howard. Johnson's sisters no. It's not that would be easier anyway. Their names are frenchie in dallas. They're spoiled party girls who shop in use fake. Id's to get into sheet clubs in new york city. Their best friends are potato chip heiress khloe hygiene queen. Ev massin gil. Jan dunkin of dunkin donuts fame and gwen tylenol. Who curiously. isn't the daughter of anyone. Famous amazing totally but bears is mortified. I mean how will she ever be taken seriously with this thing out there. But then her phone rings. She looks at her caller. Id it's the firm. It's the assistant who took notes in her signing meeting. His name is jason moore and he's about the same age as paris. He's fresh out of film school and he's hungry just like her. He tells her the g. q. Article shows how fascinated people are by her. He says he sees her potentials brand. Paris's like yes. That's what i've been trying to do for the last three years. Jason tells her he wants to take the team lead at the firm. She'll be his first real client. And he'll be the first real professional in hollywood to actually believe in her jason's already lined up a meeting at fox. She tells her it's a new idea for show. Just go in with an open mind. Harris's like hell yeah. I'm miss open mind as she drives over to century city. She passes billboards promoting survivor on. Cbs and fear. Factor on nbc. It's two thousand and two reality. Television is just starting to take off. Okay can i just say here. People thought it'd be a passing fad and survivor is now on its fortieth season. I know it's insane. Yeah so enters the fox tv lot and sits down with a senior vice president of casting. Sharon klein sharon is used to meeting with actress but once she talks with paris she's different. Sharon says paris's her own reality and not embarrassed to talk about it. Sharon thinks she's perfect for this new show. It isn't quite scripted but it isn't quite reality either. Simple life. paris. Listens as sharon pitches. It as legally blonde meets greenacres. Basically a ditzy city girl moves to a farm and learns to milk cows shovel shit and bale. Hey a fish out of water scenario except for real no cell phones no credit cards no fancy cars paris just nods all she hears as she's getting her own show on fox national television. She's like do we start. But there's a twist they need to find a co star. They won't green the show. She's the only one so sharon leans in. You happen to know anyone. Why do i feel like they planned this all along. Get paris to cast the talent. Because how else could they get another rich person to make a fool of themselves. Furiously harris says how about my sister. Nicky bigs exit boxer like hell. Yeah what a great idea who wouldn't want to watch the hilton sisters step in cow manure but it turns out. Nicky doesn't want to ruin her lubaton. Don't blame her. The cheapest ones are over five hundred dollars but now really wants this thing so she tries to convince box to do the show with gesture the studios like nah not as funny. I picture pairs scrolling through her contacts. Trying to figure out which of her friends would be willing to give up sushi at nabu for baloney sandwiches at home. What about kimberly stewart rod. Stewart's daughter she's got nothing going on. I'll be pairs okay. L. good role play. Hey paris hate him. Want to move to a farm with me. Oh my god. I'm so sorry. I think you have the wrong number squirrel squirrel squirrel. Maybe casey johnson. The band aid heiress. Hey paris. akc wanna move to a farm with me. Oh my god. I'm busy forever. I'm sorry by fine squirrel squirrel squirrel. Oh i know hey paris. Hey nicole richie famous daughter of singer. Lionel richie one to a farm with me Maybe paris's like please say yes. You're my best friend. And the only one. I can picture doing this with me. She just asked three other people. Yeah but i mean. If i was paris i would admit that i have no idea what she actually said. But i do know that. Paris and nicole been close friends since her diaper days and now nicole is willing to follow her. Bff from air to the barn. Paris is ecstatic. She's about to have her own show while her own. Show with nicole richie now. Paris just needs to make sure the show is actually good and that it's funny. She's going to give a hundred percent. It's may second two thousand. Three and paris headed to the airport. Cameras are documenting her every move. She's dressed in head to toe controller. Her skintight your address. Matches her dior luggage. Nicole is there to address down in a colorful floral shift toting a slew of louis vuitton luggage. They board a private jet and make themselves tinker bell's even there. She's wearing a purple dress with a pink feathery collar and she prances around while a stewardess hands out moist towels. Paris isn't sure exactly where they're going but this will be their last taste of their rich life for a while as the jet makes its descent. She looks out the window but all she can see farmland and grasp for miles. She nudges nicole. There's like one house every fifty miles when they land. They throw their fancy bags in an old blue pickup truck and head into the ozarks towards the tiny town of altos population. Eight hundred seventeen. They move in with the leading family. Listen to this clip their board and trying to figure out what to do not playing out at walmart. Why walmart like cell wall stuff like. Oh my god. I love this show. They're funny i know right. Paris totally gets the comedy of the situation. The leading family thinks she's hilarious sodhi the producers but peres the one who's really laughing because she's playing a character that she created and perfected even the show's producers. Can't tell if it's an act Yeah i seriously thought that's who. She was too for the longest time. It'll be years before she goes public and tells the truth but right now she's making a tv show they shoot for twenty nine days and when it's done. She boards a private jet home and resumes her fabulous life. I imagine she calls her manager. Jason maybe the to go out to a dark piano bar in l. a. and order grey goose martinis. How was it. Jason asser fund. She says but her voice says something different after beat. She tells him the truth is she's a little worried. She put herself out there. What if no one watches or worse. What if no one thinks it's funny. What if everyone hates her. Jason shakes his head. Don't worry not only are people going to love you. They're going to want to be you. It's smooth sailing from here and it is for a minute. She to clubs poses for pictures does some interviews and press and basically counts down the days to the premier and then a few weeks before the pilot episode is set to air. She's on a flight home from australia when she hears that. A tape is out there. One starring her god. I've honestly been trying to forget about that. Yeah it's tape. From two years ago. From that night. Rick salomon convinced her to have sex while he filmed it. And now there's a thirty second trailer on the internet somewhere and there's no way that baby back nope by the time she's back on the ground and on the phone with her manager pretty much everyone has seen it or they will because the tablet tablet and as we know the tabloids love paris hilton. Especially if it's a story about her involving a scandal and this is about a scandalous as it gets but to paris. This isn't a front page story. This is her life. Once she carefully built brick by brick to make sure she was the one in control of her destiny and now in this one moment everything she worked for is crashing down around her. Hey ritchie's we get support from at home hair. Colour company madison reed. 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Promo code rich and you'll get ten percent off plus free shipping on your first color kit. That's promo code rich. it's mid november. Two thousand three paris's blonde hair is a mess. She hasn't washed it in days and she hasn't changed out of her sweats for weeks. So literally all of us in two thousand twenty yup just like us paris like what's the point. They've canceled all of her appearances since the sex tape trailer the internet. She doesn't even want to leave the house. She's mortified in feels completely vulnerable. She feels like the whole world has seen her having sex so she holds up in her parents. New york apartment with nothing to do everyday accepts. Do and one day. She picks up her phone. One rick picks up. Paris starts right in. How could you do this to me. She calls rick solomon. She does who she has to know why he tells her out of his control down. Took the tape without asking paris's like that's your excuse. Your roommate took it it. Later comes out that he wants to his friend. Something like paris is going to be big someday. And i'm gonna film it then. Just watch what i do with it. Who says romances dead peres. Understandably is pissed. He tells her he knows just how she's feeling. He feels betrayed to and is suing gun. His own friends stole the tape and sold it. Rick says he hasn't made a dime passes like yet. You haven't made a dime yet. Paris isn't stupid. She's heard that. Rick plans and selling a feature length version on his own website. Okay wait hold on. I'm confused here. So the roommate. Supposedly steals tape He sells it to a porn company. They released a thirty second trailer. Yup rick sues has roommate and stops them from releasing more of the tape. But then rick still plans to release more footage on his own website. Yep you're not as confused as you think it's true and get this. His website is called. Beverly hills pinson host. Also it's a family friendly say yes love it. The most family friendly. Rick says he can just put the tape back in the closet. It's out there. If anyone should make money from it. It should be him man. This guy sucks yeah. he's trash. Paris cries she bleeds please rick. I've been humiliated enough. She begs him not to release it but nothing she says will change his mind. Paris hangs up. How could she have ever loved him. She feels helpless violated and completely mortified. It can't get much worse right. then it does. She's about to hit the national spotlight and not in the way she'd hoped the first time that the words perez hilton and job. I've ever been used in a sentence and that's just the start. Every late night talk show. Host and comedian makes the butt of their opening monologue. But at least they're laughing. The public is mean people. Call her a slut. Rich white trash no talent brainless hussy tramp and skin to name. Just a few god. That would not fly today. People assholes you know. I thought about that because looking back it seems like paris's haters particularly hateful. I feel like people love to hate someone who doesn't show vulnerability and to them paris's images someone who doesn't give a shit a rich spoiled heiress. Yeah but she built up persona to protect herself after utah. Yeah i know. That's what makes it even more awful. I mean you don't know what someone has been through. So don't fucking judge. I don't know why yelling at people from seventeen ago. But it's heartbreaking. how much this affects paris at the time. Every snarky headline every mean comment chips away at her soul. She figures her dreams are over. Her reality show is probably cancelled. She may as well call jason and get it over with when jason picks up. She cuts right to the point. I guess the simple life is dead and he says it's not it's like free press for the show paris's on everyone's gossip hitlist and people are going to wanna watch what she does next. The show is on and they're gonna put it in the prime. Eat thirty spot. Right between that seventies show me oc two of their biggest hits. The simple life premieres on december second as planned and the pilot episode draws thirteen million viewers. The week after the numbers are even higher. People love it and can't get enough catchphrase. Terrorists finally famous for something more than her last name. Now she's famous for being herself while the self she created anyway so you'd think paris would-be celebrating right. Yeah she's not. she's still hiding out. She thought people would tire the sex tape and turn their attention to the show. They haven't now. People are more interested than ever. The paparazzi are swarming the waldorf where she lives. She doesn't understand how it could have all gone so wrong but then saturday night live calls. They want her to do a guest spot on the show. We update with jimmy fallon at. I was like hell. No no way. Am i putting myself out there in front of thirty million people after everything that's happened. But then she reconsiders maybe. This is an opportunity to flip the narrative. Get a piece of herself back. So she agrees. She's on her way to thirty rock. Hialeah saturday december. Six two thousand. Three paris sits in front of a mirror and dressing room. Eight h at nbc studios and. She can't shake off her nerves. She's having second thoughts about her appearance. Snl she feels like everyone is whispering about her behind her back. The guys at the desk checked her in the girls for makeup and hair and didn't rip. Look at her funny. He probably saw the tapes focus focused. She thinks she can't back out now. She smooths down the diamond cross around her neck and checks herself in the mirror. She's trying to professional today. Gray pinstripe suit. Long blond hair swept over her shoulder and side bony. And then it's go time. Knock them dead girl. She walks down the hallway and then she steps onto the stage. She never imagined the studio audience would be so close or that. Everyone's is would be on her. There are four tv cameras sheep links. I imagine she gets herself some sort of pep talk. You got this. You know how to play to the camera and then tina fey calls the q. Paris hilton's name that's on everyone's lips these past few weeks here. Now in an exclusive interview with jimmy fallon is paris hilton. When she comes out she looks completely called the had ask. Even you'd never know. She was having doubts. It's like the air smash. She worked on for years the total. I don't give a shit of it. All is right back on and never came off. Jimmy fallon sets her up. Is it hard to get into the paris hilton. It's very expensive hotel no matter what you've heard. The writers of course wrote her jokes. But paris's timing is perfect. The audience is in hysterics. And jimmy fallon can barely keep it together in this moment. It's like paris is taking back the narrative she's in on the joke and it's a signal to all the haters including her ex. You can't take me down. I mean look. She knows one appearance on. Snl isn't going to erase what happened. She will now and forever be associated with the tape. If she's going to salvage her dreams she'll just have to figure out a way to make this new reality work for her. So back to hollywood. She goes and the good news is she's got a new movie coming out a big one when a date with tad hamilton. It starts kate. Bosworth topher grace and josh duhamel and paris sort of. Oh i love that movie. But i don't remember paris. Well you're not the only one. She plays heather and has two scenes in one. She pair shoots out of the sky and lands in a swimming pool. She pops up wearing nothing but a string bikini and super high gold heels. Josh demelza character just stares at her with his mouth open. Harman's heather of course. It is very landing person's friend or ankle definitely a bigger and sweetie pie and she has more lines and than up except she's hot when the film was released in early january. They cut her part rumors. Buzz at her scenes were deleted because of the sex tape that the studio thought it was best to distance itself from paris in the scandal. I don't know if that's how it went. But someone probably at least did her the favor of telling her because she doesn't attend any of the premieres eventually. Her scenes are released on dvd. But they're relegated to the gag reel and she's still listen on. Imdb as uncreditworthy rule out. That's about as bleak as it can get for an actor so true so let's just say. Paris has a lot of ups and downs in just a few short months mostly downs. Yeah she's definitely feeling the backlash and her dreams of becoming. An actress have gotten a lot harder. So is everything else. Here's paris in her own words in the documentary american meam. I literally wanted to die at some point. So i was like. I don't wanna live. Because i had thought everything was taken away from me. I didn't want to be known as i would. never do. i clicked on. How yeah she pretty much hit rock bottom but our girl is tough when she picks herself up and dusts herself off. She thinks well. I guess i'll start all over again and this time she's going to take a different route. People are fascinated by her. She's a pop culture phenomenon by two thousand four. She's the second most search person on google already spears's the first by the way has brittany would say if you want to be number one. You better work bitch. So movie star is in the but she can still build a brand a paris sprint. But how do you do that when most companies think your sex tape means. You aren't brand for family friendly well parasites to simply not give a shit. Okay brooklyn you think of thousands. What do you picture her wearing. Obviously a pink juicy couture tracksuit right. She lives in it. Yeah she wears it everywhere. Pair says it's my uniform when i'm chilling at home or going to the beach and as it turns out the minute paris puts on the tracksuit juicy couture blows up like big time because the paparazzi snapping away. Whatever she does she's featured a lot in juicy and one other celebrity. How good she looks. They start to wear juicy. To madonna. Beyond say and kim kardashian start wearing out on the town oh yeah she totally started the trend. She's like the. Og she is today. She's got an entire closet dedicated to the brand. She says she goes in every single day and just puts on her juice. I love that she calls it. Her juice turco's on to sell for two hundred and twenty six million dollars. I'm pretty sure paris's unofficial endorsement health. Did paris get near that. She did not. She just likes the close. She's thrilled for the company because she loves them that much but it does plant a seed if people are so interested in what she's wearing to the tune of two hundred and twenty six mil. What if next time she gets a piece of that too. she's smart. yeah businesses in her blood. I mean her great grandfather. Conrad hilton started one of the biggest hotel chains in the world. And now it's paris's term with grandpa conrad on one shoulder and burma kathy on the other paresis primed and ready to take over the world. This is episode two of our four part series paris hilton. If you like our show please give us a five star rating and a nice review. We love nice reviews. Ambi short all your friends. You love your friends to subscribe to our show on apple podcasts. Spotify the app or wherever. You're listening right now. Join wondering plus in the wondering after listen ad free in the episode notes. You'll find some lincoln offers from our sponsors. Please support them by supporting them. 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"Join one three plus to listen to even the rich ad free in the wondering app. Download the wondering app in your apple or google play mobile app store today in this episode. We're going to be swearing lake in arusha in la traffic. I mean just go the speed limit. It's june third. Two thousand seven and paris hilton has traded in her dior addresses and lou batons for an orange jumpsuit and plastic slip on sandals she paces back and forth but she can't pays for the room is only eight by twelve in jail. She's no longer paris hilton. She's inmate number nine. Eight one. eight seven eight. Three gone is her king-size featherbed and her marble walled bathroom with a jacuzzi. Tub also has in her cell or a metal bunk bed toilet with a sink and a little desk. It's pretty bleak. She doesn't even have a roommate. Because the sheriff thought it wouldn't be safe for her. The last time she was alone behind locked door was in provo canyon. So it's like a flashback to the worst time of her life she doesn't sleep chickeny in part because our stomach is in knots all the time but also because the food is totally. Gross lunch is a baloney sandwich referred to as mystery meat. It's slapped between two pieces of white bread. Manny's she's scared shitless. I mean i would actually eat that and my crazy yes. You're crazy. But i mean it's more than the food. She feels like. The room is closing in on her. She's claustrophobic if feels like she's right. Back in provo and its messing with her head. She can see the guards looking at her through a glass. See through door. She feels naked again. Stripped of her privacy but at least she's allowed to see her shrink. His name is dr charles sophie and fun fact. One of his clients was melby on. My god of that fact is fun. Thank you i agree anyway. Sophie takes one look at paris and is like we need to get you out of here. Immediately within days petitions the la county sheriff for paris's release citing medical issues and after serving just three days and two hours in jail. Paris walks out a free woman. Well almost free. She has some new jewelry an ankle bracelet house arrest. I'm trying to picture her laying by pool with an ankle bracelet. I mean it's a whole new problem. Will i get electrocuted. If i jump in lakewood she. I don't think so. I mean it's not a toaster anyway. When the judge gets wind of her cushy arrangement he's like hell no. Paris hilton is going to serve time in jail. Just like everyone else. So back she goes. She's been home just thirty six hours to him. That just tough yeah. The good news is her attorney. The sentence reduced to twenty three days if she remains on good behaviour but still. I mean twenty. Three days is a long time alone in a cell but she's strong. She made it through pro so she can make it through this. So what does she do. Well she meditates and writes in her journal and she reads fan mail sacks of thousands of letters from around the world all of them saying how much they love her. Apparently one fan even tried to send a care package with a dozen red roses and a fruit basket. Because nothing says hope your jail time passes fast like a bunch of shit. That's going rotten die. He also sent a note that said don't feel bad. You're paris hilton true all the letter. She gets help her feel less alone. She cries as she goes through them and then she answers as many as she can hear our. Wanna read one of her replies. I do but i won't be doing the voice. So sorry to disappoint the one reviewer who likes the fact that you took time out of your day to write me truly means the world especially at such a difficult and scary time in my life. But i'm being strong in trying to make the best out of the situation and the letters i'm receiving really do put a smile on my face as i sit here in my cell sad and alone love always paris hilton. Exo exo might not. Is paris home gossip girl. I've been wondering the same thing. But all this time sat in alone and away from craziness in the gives paris time to think remember in provo how she resolve to become famous so no one could control her again. Yes what she realizes in. The pokey is that she's lost her way. What she says is even though. It's been horrible and really hard. I think that god makes everything happened for a reason and this is my time to figure out what my purpose is in life. What she's starting to realize is that her prison goes much deeper than this cell. She's imprisoned inside a character she created not to let anyone in and it will take a lot longer than twenty three days for her to learn how to break out. This episode is brought to you by carmax. 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Spotify or wherever you listen now from wondering i'm more williams and brooks elfrid and this is even the rich in our last episode. Paris was on top of the world per brand was blowing up her. Hit reality show got picked up by new network cheapen heartbreak and managed to land on her feet. Life was good and then it wasn't. I didn't sell as well. She'd hoped and then she got a dui which landed her in jail but now she's getting out and she's ready to make some changes but change is never easy especially when it means who you are. This is the final episode of our four part series. We'll always have paris. It's twelve fifteen. Am on june twenty six two hundred paparazzi of gathered outside of lynnwood jail along with dozens of fans. They stand behind yellow tape that lines of walkway to the door. Security guards mill through the crowd and suddenly the door opens its paris. She looks like the girl next door. With skinny jeans and alongside braid. She smiles and the crowd goes wild as she walked to the car. The paps follow behind one fan is damn near losing his mind did he say are princesses. Free t shirted. She's free but what's amazing about this clip to me. I mean other than that guy is paris how freshen young. She looks no couture fancy phone and no bored expression she's beaming. I'm sure she's overjoyed to finally be free after twenty three days in the tank but i also think it must feel good to get this kind of support which he hops into the back of the car. She grabs onto her mom like. She's a lifeline. Both her parents are there. The driver inches forward and finally breaks the paps. And they're gone later that night as she pulls down her mask and pulls back her silk sheets. i imagine. She's thinking about how much she has to do. I stop is an interview tomorrow. With larry king. And she's going to use it to set the record straight the next day. Paris arrives at the cnn studios looking fresh and well rested today. She's chosen a beige silk dress with a little bit of lace. It's a classic look. Her only accessory is a pair of gold earrings. That kind of outfit. That sends a message. She's changed paris. Enters a studio and sits down in front of the colored lights. Larry king sits across from her. She smiles at him brightly but inside. She's a ball of nerves. I'm sure his bright purple shirt. Is it making it easier to calm down. I love how. Larry blends classic and bold all at the same time. Not just anyone can do that. Preach what makes it. All the more nervous making is the whole thing is live. There will be no cutting out the boring stuff for the flubs paris as herself when she starts to speak. She doesn't even sound the same. The baby voices gone and sincere. Poised woman is in her place. Larry jumps right in Consider you an icon. And i really respect and honor for me to be here today. As the interview progresses larry is nice like he's really gentle. He asks her. Why do any interview at all y. Come out and talk. I mean she just got out of jail. She sort of fidgets around and finally says she wants people to know what she went through. She says it was a traumatic experience that she's grown from. He seen the footage of the crush of paps waiting at the jail the night before and he asks her what. It's like to have photographers looking around every corner. Say i'm going down the street tomorrow. Be there actually. From the moment. I wake up to go to sleep there outside my house following me all day long and then he gets down to the meat of the interview. What paris wants to talk about. He asked her what she's learned. Purposive jail prison. Jail confinement is to teach a lesson part that it worked with you definitely. It was a very traumatic experience. But i feel like god does make everything happen for a reason and it gave me time out in life just to really find out what is important and what. I wanna do. Figure out who i am. She sounds like she means it. I know i think she does but then towards the end of the interview. Larry lobs a softball. If you've ever watched larry king he's one of those brilliant guys who knows something about everything but this question is pretty tame. Paris mentions that she read the bible a lot in prison. So we asked her what her favorite passages and that's when it all goes to shit. She stumbles and hesitates and then looks at her notes. Finally she says. I don't have a favorite in other words. She can't come up with a single passage and with this one small gaff everyone at home. Who's watching decide that this new paris not field. Paris is the act the next morning. Gawker writes the articulate. Multitalented businesswoman appeared contrite well-prepared and Who are we kidding. It's paris hilton. Larry king nailed her on a bible question. The philadelphia inquirer is even more brutal. The critics byline has jail taken the fun out of paris. He calls her garden variety. Dumbo and rights is one of our premier court. Jesters fading like a ghost. Please don't do that. Paris at least have the decency to leave us. Memories of some tragic downfall. Wow what an ass bag totally. But here's the problem paris's facing how can you change if nobody wants to when people prefer you as their punchline and it's only going to get harder because they're ditsy rich persona is still on the air every week on simple life season five. Oh my god. I completely forgot about the simple life with all the jail drama. Okay catch up. Because i really did love that show. Well i have a lot to catch you up on remember how season four got abysmal ratings. Kind of no know. Okay well it got. Only one point three million viewers compared to the premier which had thirteen mill. But here's the thing one point. Three mill is abysmal for fox but season four is on e. e. Those ratings are huge. The best they've ever had so they order a season five which is good because they left season. Four on a cliffhanger okay. Now that i remember nicole and peres finally come. Face-to-face nicole says the paris. We need to talk yup. So do they they do. In fact it turns out ease idea for the fifth season is what gets them back together in real life. They wanted to put them on a deserted island with a bunch of survivalists. Apparently the to hated the concept so much that they actually make a date to discuss it. Over caesar salad at a west hollywood restaurant. One diner would later say they like best friends to me. They chatted nonstop. Then they pay the check and leave the restaurant and surprise surprise the perhaps are there to capture it all your friends against that. Can i just say these clips. Really make me reconsider. My dreams of stardom. They can't even move. I know it's terrible and then the next day they're splashed across the tabloids but this time the public is thrilled lucy. Nfl are back together again. Five months later they board the busted. Malibu and arrive at camp shawny to start production A cliffhanger with a real-life happy ending well except pierce goes to jail right around the time. The second episode airs and the ratings for season five are crap down twenty percent and then nicole gets a dui and spent four days in jail. It's not a great look. Not even for so on july thirtieth two thousand seven. They announced the simple life is done. No season six. The daily news quote someone on staff saying we felt like the real life. Drama of their lives overshadowed anything happening on the show crazy when you're real life becomes juicier than your want. Yeah talk about. Even the rich publicly. Paris acts like she's relieved she tells the press. It's been a great five years and we had so much fun. I'm happy to ended at that. It's all part of the ice cool persona but you've got to imagine it hurts. I mean it's the show that made her a superstar. Plus is anyone ever really happy about their show being canceled actors. Just have to say that shit to look like good sports. Oh one hundred percent. The last episode airs on august seventh in paris says goodbye to the simple life forever. Paris may not have tv show anymore. But there's always the movies and what better place to show the world. She can play more than just an entitled heiress than the big screen. And now the part. You've been waiting for the hottie ama- naughty okay. Let me guess. Paris plays the hot girl. Yup totally against type right. Yeah but she has depth. She plays the sweet and caring friend with a heart of gold. Who cares deeply about her. Not so good looking. Best friend aka. The nadi okay. So here's the plot a guy her on a date and the only way she'll go out with him if he gets a date for her best friend too so around gum. Yeah but with a lot of gross out humor they make the best friend. Looks sort of like a corpse. Except she's supposed to be human. It doesn't really make sense but there's still this great message at the end. This is paris on a press trump. Get explaining even just. Don't judge a book by its cover and don't treat people Really just based on the outside appearance because he never know what you're gonna get okay so that's promising. Yeah except it bombs like really bombs. It gets six percent on rotten tomatoes and earns the imdb title as one of the bottom one hundred films of all time and because it's paris critics are only too happy to tear it apart. One reviewer says she delivers lines as if she's heavily sedated and there's absolutely nothing going on behind those bright blue contact lenses one of the nice reviews ass. How did this even get made. It's start of a very bad streak. Her next bom is called report. Genetic opera okay. Good title albeit wildly confusing. Yeah but not as confusing the plot and evil. Futuristic company that specializes in human organs employs a repo man to take what they need. Okay yeah. Paris plays a woman addicted to surgery and drugs. She gets the drugs by having sex with a grave robber and she wears this jet black wig. Dark goth makeup. Okay this is getting better and then what happens. Well the movie is released and it takes. It gets two stars rotten tomatoes out of sixty votes total so no one saw it. Not many but enough that paris gets nominated for razzie otherwise known as the golden raspberries. It's like the opposite of the oscars. They give out awards for the worst movies and performances of the year and in two thousand nine para sweeps them. She gets worst actress and worst couple for the holiday manati and then she also gets worst supporting actress for repo the genetic opera. What is her acceptance speech like well. Paris doesn't attend the ceremony. Most recipients of the razzies don't but shit has to suck here. She's trying to stretch yourself professionally. Show the world. She can do more than play entitled airhead character she invented but again she's derided. It's like no matter what she does. A brand released an album. Put herself out there in movies. People can't see her as anything other than a dumb blonde heiress. I mean what would you do. I would one hundred percent show up to those razzies way. But that's just me. I would love to hear that speech. What paris does is. She falls back on what she knows. And this time. She doubles down a ratio. What's one tv show. You feel like everyone has seen or everyone was definitely watching when it first came out. Oh the office. One hundred percent one hundred percent. I mean it's a classic. Yes and some things are literally just instant classics. And you know it when you see him you know what else is an instant classic best fiends. The top rated mobile puzzle adventure. yes best. Fiend is free to download and it has a world full of lovable characters thousands of levels and more content that gets added all the time. I've been playing for a while. And i'm already checking my phone for the latest update so my favorite thing about vaccines is obviously characters. They're so adorable. I know i keep saying this but they really are. They're just super cute. And i love that. They changed the theme all the time. It's a really good de stressor like just at night. When i'm like unwinding. I love just play through the levels. It's so fun and with over one hundred million downloads. This five star rated mobile puzzle game is truly a must play seriously once you download. Best means boredom won't stand a chance download best fiends free today on the apple app store or google play. That's friends without the our best fiends. Paris may have expanded her range on the big screen but that hasn't carried over to her real life. Maybe she's thinking if people love this character so much. Why not give them more at the two thousand ten. She goes on the party. Circuit hopping from club to club across the globe. It's just like you'll times pap snap photos per. Nfl star. Reggie bush at a club holding a champagne bottle up in the air dancing wildly in madrid. Pop sugar speculate. She's meeting with her ex. Christiana rinaldo at the film festival. She poses on the red carpet and a boho jungle maxi and the press wonder where her data's paris actually has a bunch of business meetings in europe too but the papers don't care about that they wanna know what she's wearing who she seeing and how much she's had to drink and then in july things take a turn. Paris attends the fearful world cup in south africa with a friend and when they're on their way out after the police catch a whiff of pot but we'd isn't legal here. Her friend takes the fall. The court lets them off with a fine. But it's not the kind of publicity paris wants but still i mean it's not that bad right. Her friends smokes weed and she was there so what but then two weeks later. She stopped again at an airport in corsica with less than a gram pot in her purse again. She's released she tries to make light of it tweeting. The story saying i have been arrested. Are completely false. I'm having the best vacation of my life. So i know it's just a little gun but it's gotta be a wakeup call right. I mean the last time she thought she was above the law. It did not go well. Unfortunately it's not a month later on august twenty seventh at eleven. Pm is sitting in the passenger seat of a cadillac escalade as her boyfriend. Cy waits maneuvers down. The vegas strip size a wealthy entrepreneur who manages a bunch of the hottest nightclubs. Here paris has been dating him for a little over a year. They've got the windows rolled down when they pass cop. He's on a motorcycle and he smells vapor trail wafting out of the car. He's like What's that and many turns on his lights pairs like shit. Oh shit not this again when the cop pulls over the car crowd starts to gather on the street harris if they can go to the nearby wind casino for some privacy and once they're she starts to panic. She opens her purse and pulls out a tube of lip balm and a small envelope of cocaine falls out but she does say it's not hers. The chanel bag. She's carrying belongs to a friend so she borrowed the bag and all of the contents officers. Don't buy it either. They arrest her on the spot along with her boyfriend. Cy the tour handcuffed and taken down to the clark. County jail. where they're fingerprinted and photograph and then paris's released at three in the morning three weeks later. She pleads guilty to misdemeanors and is sentenced to two hundred hours of community service. A two thousand dollar fine a drug abuse treatment program and a year of probation. After reading the sentence the judge warns her that if she does not abide by the terms she will also serve one year in jail. Okay if this isn't a wakeup call than i don't know what is well. She's about to get another one on the other side of the world. It's temper twentieth. Two thousand ten two days after paris pleads guilty now. She's on a private jet headed for tokyo. This will be the first off on her asian tour for her fashion and fragrance lines. At this point she is more than a dozen handbag and accessory stores all over the world and is opening even more but when she gets off the plane she stopped immigration. Japan is tough on drugs and they decide. Paris isn't welcome their vigor. She'll just go onto the next stop of the tour malaysia and indonesia but same story turns out. They have strict drug laws too. So she won't be able to do any press in this part of the world which isn't exactly great for business nor is this kind of france but when it comes time to leave and the paps follow her into the airport. She's as breezy cool as ever like. Everything's just fine. Take a listen back to japan. The teacher and i love everyone and madonna. She seriously acting like nothing happened. She is she gives the press the same. I don't give a fuck out of she's used before one. that says. say what you want about me. I don't give a damn but this isn't her only problem. It's two thousand and eleven and paris. Now being outshined she still running her multi-million dollar business but the tablets are giving more and more column inches to paris. His old friend an ex personal assistant kim. I wondered when kim was going to enter the story. Also shameless plug. We'll be doing a deeper dive into kim in the kardashians next series. I can't wait anyway. Paris hired kim back in two thousand six. The two of them have actually been friends for years. They go all the way back to nursery school days with nicole now. Kim is trying to make a career out of organizing closets for the rich and famous paris's at the peak of career with a simple life so she doesn't have time to make her closets. Look pretty so. It seems like a good fit pretty soon. The two friends are photographed everywhere together. Shopping clubbing for mir's pedis white party. They even take a girl's trip to visit together. Is the bigger name. But the camera loves kim to and it doesn't take long for kim to figure out of the spotlight and in two thousand seven. She gets her own reality show along with her family and it's called. Well we all know what it's called keeping up with the kardashians but critics panit but viewers like you need love it. I imagined peres. Happy for her friend. Or maybe she's jealous Who knows but as time goes by. There's this shift now when the two are together. The tabs are more interested in kim. By two thousand and eleven. It's like paris's suddenly in her shadow. And i can't imagine she likes it. I mean paris laid the groundwork for being famous for being famous and chemis taken the torch and run with it. People are connecting with the kardashians. In a way they never have with paris buzzfeed. Put it best. They wrote where hilton was aloof. Artificial the kardashian seemed completely. Open performing a kind of emotional nudity. They happily catalog. Nearly every moment of their lives from divorces to family rifts to gagging over dog poop duty that can't feel good for paris. Yeah probably not but i can't imagine why she would even want to be vulnerable on camera. I mean it's like no matter what she does the tab spin it some other way. They just want to see her fail and up until now she's taken every failure with a grain of salt show canceled. It's cool jail. i'm good. I learned my lesson rejected from a foreign country. No biggie love to you all but now it looks like people want more than everything's great. The world is changing. They wanna be leading on the ups and downs and the dirty messy parts of your real life. It's how people connect and they're quick to sniff out inauthentic well to be fair. The press is pretty much cataloged every dirty messy part of her life since she was eighteen. Yeah so true. But she had these teflon. I don't give a shit walls now. She plans to give them the real pairs in her new reality. Show called the world according to paris. Here's what she says about the series that says show a never done before. I'm really letting cameras into my real life and this is really all access pass. What goes on okay. I'm down right. It premieres on june first two thousand eleven on the oxygen. The intro has all these fabulous photos of paris through the years and over them. Paris's voice tees up the premise. She says i'm thirty this year. And it's made me think that it's time to say goodbye to paris. The party girl. And hello to paris grownup and other words. She wants to show the world who she really is and she really does let the publican and the first episode. Paris moves in with her sister. Nikki after a knife-wielding stocker tries to break into her house she also reports for her court mandated community. Service from the drug bust in vegas. Okay so that's brave. Yeah but oh god. Why is there always a. But because there's always a but when it comes to rich people anyway is driving through one of l. a.'s low income neighborhoods. Paris turns to her assistant and ask. Am i going to be working with like convicts and like prisoner. People which sounds well like the paris everyone has come to expect and then she wears lubaton heels while painting over graffiti and complains about it the whole time later in the episode. She has an argument with her boyfriend. Cy after he catches her texting with an x okay. So not exactly a grownup reboot of the paris persona exactly and no one is interested in this paris anymore. It's the least watch series on oxygen that year and to make matters worse. The reviews are brutal. Entertainment weekly gives the series a d. For paris i imagine the worst part. Is they compare her show. With keeping up with the kardashians they say. Unlike kim show it fails to deliver any frothy fun and the star comes across as completely unlikeable. Damn paris can't catch a break. Nope the new york times it up this way as a reality heroin. Paris seems a little passe. A sony walkman in an ipod era. A friend sir. In the asia facebook miss hilton was a genius itself invention but in the world according to paris at least she shows no flair for reinvention. The times is just making an observation. But it's got sting. Paris is the oh gee when it comes to building a brand out of nothing but a name and image her smarts she pretty much invented and now the world is moving on to someone newer. Who's taking a page from brooke but paris puts on a brave smile and pushes forward like she always does and decides to do an interview with abc news. It's july twentieth. Two thousand eleven and paris's living room has been overrun with cameramen and gaffer's they're turning her house into an interview set. Her blue velvet so fo with cheetah pillows is the backdrop. the interviewer is dan harris. He's a season journalist. Who always appears calm and cool the producer. Post two accent chairs close together to allow for a more intimate conversation about paris's life and her new show. Paris has done these kinds of interviews hundreds of times by now and this one's for good morning america which is a friendly morning show so this should be a cakewalk. Dance starts with topics like the baby voice. Paris's glad to finally set the record straight. It's the character that i developed the simple life. They wanted someone who is an era had and kind of have the baby boys. So that's a character that i had to do and continue to do for five seasons. She says sometimes when she's on camera she reverts back to it because she did it for so long and then he turns the convoy to her businesses. Dan says why do you work so hard. She says she likes being able to do whatever she wants by what she wants but then dan moves to the hard hitting questions. Do you worry at times that the people who have followed in your footsteps like kim kardashian or overshadowing you know not at all. There's been some talk about the ratings and the show me low Has that upset you know. hold on. that's kind of a bullshit question. I mean who wouldn't be bothered by their show not doing well. Yeah and he's not letting up and the more he goes on the more stony-faced paris gets she clearly wasn't expecting this. Ever worry about your moment having passed you want to wrap up harris looks offscreen to her. Publicist like is this really happening. What should i do and of course the pr person is probably panicking. And then there's a cut to paris's credit. She pulls herself together and finishes the interview. Well she sorta finishes it. She tells dan the truth. She doesn't want all that being used on the show she tells him she's been in the business for fifteen years and it's important to reinvent herself and take on new projects and then she walks dan through her mansion and shows him the mini mansion. She bought for her dogs. Oh god messages again. I know she tells them. The mini mansion is a perfect replica of our own mansion is a three hundred square foot two story spanish style. Villa and the furniture is all philippe. Starck there's even a chandelier and listening. It costs three hundred and twenty. Five thousand dollars okay. Well i'm a dog my apartment and it's bigger than three hundred square feet so you are so generous. The interview airs on the morning of the finale episode. Three weeks later oxygen network cancels her show. Everyone has highs and lows in life. When i think peres to me this is her rock bottom. 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The only thing. I know about eight as that. There's a lot of ecstasy involved. Yeah that's only know too. So paris starts going to eat him festivals and shows with her new. Dj boyfriend africa. Jack in two thousand twelve aphrodisiac is the best deejays out there. He headlines festivals like tra miami beach and tomorrowland in belgium and he takes paris with him right into the deejay booth where she watches what he does every night. And she's having a blast which gets her thinking. Maybe i can do this. There's only one problem. Luckily there's more than one problem. I back in two thousand twelve. Dj is a male dominated world. There was literally only one female on the top rank list and it's actually a duo and then to. She's never done it before but she wants to try the crowds the energy the music. This is her happy place so she figures what the hell it's only she hasn't been panned before it's saturday. June twenty third two thousand twelve people have traveled from all over the world to attend the pop music festival in sao paulo. Brazil paris's there too but tonight she isn't here to just dance. She's here to spin her first set. She's wearing a black rhinestone body. Suit with matching gloves and diamond encrusted headphones. I mean after all it is paris but she's probably less concerned with how she looks and more concerned with calming her nerves. She's following jaylo. Who i would not wanna follow jenny from the block. No not at all so jaylo finishes the song dance again and struts off the stage. The stadium is buzzing. And now it's paris's turn but she's ready. She's been studying. The mixing board learning terms like gain level phase reversal phantom power. She takes the stage alone in front of thirty thousand people. Paris knows half of them are probably waiting to see her fail. And then she launches into her set. She's dancing and feeling the techno music but things start going sideways. During her set a mystery hand reaches out from under the table to tweak the levels on her mixer okay awkward it gets worse when she steps up to play her single produced. By after jack for janas we found love starts up at the same time. It's kind of a mess. I would have do was just some new mashup but i'm sure she was embarrassed. Maybe more maybe not everyone can see her face on a giant. Lcd screen right behind her and she just smiles and winks the crowd. She could be faking it but to me. She looks happy. She's in her element and people are dancing. It must be the best feeling in the world. I'm feeling it to. Their views are tepid at best of course but she actually gets offered another gig this one at a club in ken. And it's big. Dj like ross and wiz. Khalifa spun their most people have to be at the top of the game to east kinds of offers but paris's paris. The edm crowd loves her. She figures she can learn as she goes. And she draws huge paychecks cheetahs residencies at some of the top clubs in the world a four night gig and a beezer earns her two point seven billion dollars which is like three hundred forty seven thousand dollars an hour. wow okay. she's founder thing. It seems like it right although not everyone is excited to welcome her into the elite world of top. Dj's dead mouse goes on his social media and calls paris of phony and then he does racing metaphor that. I can't make sense of even though i read it three times. You wanna try share. Okay personally i would pay about as much to see her. Perform as fans would pay to watch me struggle to get out of first gear and twenty feet off the starting grid indy. Five hundred race without ending up in iraq. Okay he's wrong. I would pay to watch him do anything in that giant mouse had. That's a really good points. What's kind of amazing. Is that paris. Just lets his comments. Roll off her back. She tweets back. Sorry that i'm hashtag killing it while. Doing what i love and live for. Yes love a good clapback But where she goes. High dead mouse goes low like really low. If i wanted attention. I'd put out a sex tape. Fuck dentists than charge. A million root canals. Okay he really should refrain from metaphors. They're not good yeah. They're complete trash but some people agree with him. Google peres dj. And you'll find a bunch of haters but there are a ton more that love her by the end of two thousand. Fourteen paris's awarded breakthrough. Dj that same year. She puts out a story on her instagram. Just ten words on a white background. It says you're the artist's own life. Make it beautiful love it. Over the next few years paris continues to rake in the dough money for appearances money for her business ventures by twenty eighteen. She has twenty-five fragrances and eighteen product. Line sold in over sixty countries. She writes and produces music and she becomes the highest paid female. Dj in the world. She's in control and in twenty nineteen. She's finally ready to let down her walls for real. I heard this before. It sounds like it right but this time. She's making a documentary. Production companies have approached her a dock over the years and she wasn't ready but then she sees a film on the brilliant actress and inventor. Hetty lamar it was directed by a woman named alexandra. Dean and paris reaches out an asteroid. She'll do a film on her she says. I don't think anyone sees me for who i am. And she thinks. Alexandra just might. She gives the documentary crew full access to her life. They interview her family including her parents and she gives them footage of her as a kid. Little paris opening presents. Christmas going to the zoo with her family playing dress up with her moms close and then as paris's deciding just how deep and revealing she's willing to go she gets a call from an old classmate someone from provo canyon. She s paris if she remembers what happened remember. Paris has never spoken about her experience to anyone. And now here's someone wanting to talk someone who experienced it too so they make a plan to get together and decide to invite more survivors. She has no idea what's going to happen in the meeting. She stuffed the whole experience so far down. She doesn't even know how she will react. But she decides to let the cameras roll on the day of the shoot paris. Where sweats but his anything but comfortable. She's angry and sad and anxious as she and four friends from provo share their experiences in paris's living room one by one. Each woman talks about the horrific things that happened to them at provo. The physical abuse mental abuse being locked in solitary confinement being stripped of their dignity. Then they create these homemade posters that read provo canyon. School accept the word school is crossed off instead each of the women right words about their experience at provo when it's paris's turn. She writes verbally physically and emotionally abused eventually writes on the effects trust issues fear and anxiety the wounds that provo behind and then each of the women put duct tape over their mouths and pose with their handmade signs while paris films with her phone. This is all in the documentary and the documentary paris's becoming one of the leaders of a movement. She uses her massive social media presence to launch a campaign called hashtag breaking code silence to expose all the so-called emotional bro schools like provo. I should say here that the provo canyon school was sold back in two thousand and is under entirely different management. yes disclaimer. yeah but before it shut down. There were other students who were allegedly mistreated in the year since paris left and similar schools exist throughout the country. God i mean that takes a lot for her to unpack that an inner documentary like. That's really brave. Yeah i know. There's a scene after she films with the women she's just standing in her giant closet by herself tears streaming down her face. It's so raw in so honest and real. Listen i sometimes i feel like so many things but sometimes like this robot and this character that i did in talking with them like trying. Remember who i was before. Just took that away and then she looks around at all her clothes and her shoes and she says this. When i look around my life like a cartoon created this fantasy world cartoon but the thing is i. Don't give any of these things i mean. You guys have to see this documentary. It's so good. Yeah i gotta think there's gotta be some catharsis for paris all of this. Yeah i think so. I really do even though it's not like you. Confess all this pain in the world and suddenly. You're better doesn't work like that. Obviously but in the final scene of the dock she stands on a balcony and tells the director. She feels like she's at a good place in her life. She doesn't feel so alone anymore because of that she can make a change. She can make a difference. I don't know the whole thing makes me want him fry. She's pretty amazing. I agree on october. Ninth twenty twenty. Paris spearheads a protest rally outside of the provo canyon school and helps launch a petition to get provo canyon shutdown to date. They've gathered almost two hundred thousand signatures. And that's pretty much the end of the story except no one stories ever really over right especially paris's she's done more in thirty nine years than most people do in their whole lives. People definitely don't give her enough credit. Yeah her brands grossed over three billion dollars and she's the oh social media influencer. She carved out that niece before social media even existed. Chino has over fifty million followers across oliver platforms. She's even developing her own platform based in a virtual reality. of course she is. I'm tired just thinking about doing this month. Work does same. I think her willingness to take risks and we invent is what keeps her on top people recognize her face around the world in by her stuff. Love paris are hater. she's an icon in one thing's for sure she deserves our respect and that's hot. This is episode for our four part series. Paris hilton if you enjoyed it. Please subscribe at apple podcasts. Spotify google wondering dot com or wherever. 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10 More Disturbing True Stories (Volume 2)

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10 More Disturbing True Stories (Volume 2)

"You haven't heard about anchor. The easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain. First of all it's free this creation tools that allow you to record an editor. Joe cost right from your phone or computer. Anchor will district your podcast for you is. It can be heard on spotify apple podcasts. And many more you can make money from your part. 'cause was no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place so please download the free anger app or go to anchor. Fm to get started. I remember this just vaguely. Since i was little at the time may be seven in my old house. My room had its own floor. It wasn't even supposed to be a bedroom. It was more of an attachment to the attic or closet. Type room the people that own the house before us used it as a playroom for their daughters. My room also had a huge closet door those attached to the attic. The closet was elevated up so that you would have to climb a set of wooden stairs to get into it. It had a big sliding door and those completely packed with toys and other junk from my childhood. Since i was little at the time i always got scared of being separated from the rest of my family and having a huge closet in my room then there was this one night. I was laying in bed afraid after watching a scary movie with my family. Then i heard the sound of the toy fall over up in the closet. I jumped out of my bed and rance my parents room. They told me there was no one in my closet. They still have frayed. I was so they let me sleep in their room that night the next night i had kinda forgotten about it until i heard it again. The sound of a container of lagos spilling out everywhere in the closet again. I ran to my parents room and told them about it. My dad was starting to grow impatient with me. He reluctantly agreed. Led me sleep in their room again. The next day me and my mom check the closet and there it was a pile of lagos lay on the floor spilled out of the container. I thought this was proof that somebody was in my closet but my mom assured me that it simply fell over that night. My dad locked his door. He said he was tired of my nonsense. I couldn't sleep. That night. I lay. They're completely silent with my young boy. Imagination running weeding for another sound to come from the closet. It was probably about an hour before it happens. It broke the silence. The sound of the closet door rolling open with force. The moonlight shining through my window illuminated the figure standing by might closet door. I let out the most horrific european screaming you've ever heard as pure terror swept over my body. A feeling that i still remember today the figure jumps down from the closet and ran out of my room and out the front door of my house. My mom to my room in shock as my dad ran downstairs trying to catch whoever it was but he never did. The police never caught the man. When i was in eighth grade. I went on a school trip. That was called the louisiana tour. It was mostly going around to significant sites in south louisiana. One of the places. We went to was myrtles plantation which is considered to be one of the most haunted places in the country. There are all kinds of stories about the place but at one point we were standing in a room as a part of a larger group and the tour guide was talking about something. I don't remember what as i'm standing there. I start to hear. What sounds like someone hitting piano key. After i heard it a couple times i started to look around for the source of the sound. I didn't see a piano but kept hearing it so i asked my friends who were standing near me. If they heard it they said no. When i heard it again i said there it is again. They must've heard it. They thought i was crazy. So i went back to looking around the room. Everyone's eyes were on the tour guide except for one woman. She caught my eye and pointed at me and then enter ear with a questioning. Look i realized she was asking if i heard it too and i nodded at this point. The tour guide starts telling story about soldier who had died there and that he played the piano and multiple guests had reported hearing him playing in the night. I honestly didn't know what to think. I guess i still don't. I talked to the woman as we were all leaving the room and she said she heard the exact same thing as me but her husband and son had not heard. It was near halloween. Time when my friends and i were telling ghost stories my friend said she was going to tell a story about her parents as first date. She said she didn't like telling stories since uis actually true but we prodded her on to cut to the chase. The parents had a nice if awkward for state and around the time that they would have said. good night. The mail in this situation. Who's my friend's dad. Suggested that the gopher at midnight hike a provo canyon. He apparently knew the police since he had done a fair amount of rock climbing in the area so the two drove up. The mouth of the canyon got out of their cars and started hiking under just the light of the stars since it was a new moon at some point. The man starts getting a bad feeling since the pathway ahead which would pass under some trees would be dark and because those getting quite lead he ignores feeling and presses on a minute later the feeling came back to the men. He ignored it again and started walking a bit of the way into the trees when his foot hit something soft in the middle of the path under the trees. Zoos too dark to see just what this soft thing was. And the feeling came back stronger than ever. Instead of finding out what is footed bumped into he and the woman both agreed to high till it out of their years later after being married for some time they were watching an interview with the serial killer. Ted bundy in response to a question asking him to describe the time that he felt the closest to being caught. He explained about the night that he learned a girl into provo canyon and had just killed her when he heard some people coming up the trail. He explained how he hid in the trees. Just in time only to watch some guy walk right into the body and for some reason. Just turn around and walk away. My school's library is open until two in the morning for the idiots like me that don't do their essays until the last minute. It's a pretty small building and most of the books are in the basement. Area called the stacks just to give you a quick layout. There's the big main stairs that. Go down to the stacks a vending machine room and the long hallway with the four entrances into the stacks. The stacks are two really big rooms on opposite sides of the hallway with a huge amount of bookshelves and study desks lining the walls. I was there around eleven pm last year. It was a pretty research-intensive essays. So i was down in the stacks working in one of the study desks so i didn't have to keep going upstairs downstairs again. I had been there for maybe two hours in everyone except for boy. Working few desks down for me had already left. I was pretty zoned out. By this point it was eight. Am class so. I didn't have much time until it was due and i'll sort of panicking so it really pissed me off when i heard someone flipping through book pages really fist to make them do that loud whipping noise at the other end of the room. I sort of ignored it for a while thinking they'd go away eventually but they just kept doing it after about five minutes. I got sick of it and started to walk over to tell them to knock it off. I get about three steps across the room and it just stops. I sat back down a knows quiet again. Only for like ten minutes before the flipping pages noise started again. Only loads louder liked grabbed a huge book that time the boys started to get pissed off to and he stood up and started walking around through the bookshelves trying to find them. It kept going. So i got up and started looking around with him. It got really loud. A news pretty obvious where it was coming from by that point so he started walking towards us on one side of the shelves. Now's on the other. We walked all the way down the shelves. No-one there we hadn't seen anyone come in the stacks and we were on the side of the room with the entrances. No way could anyone have come in without us seeing them. The noise stopped again and we both sort of just slowly walks back to our seats. I assumed as just a fan or something in the other room. My really needed to get my essay done. We sat down and immediately. The noise started again. It sounded like it was coming from right next to the guy's chair. He showed this stuff in his bag. Looked at me said. Fuck this and took off i was out of. There may be five seconds behind him. I still won't go back into stacks at night even when there's other people down there this happened when i still had my fishing boat. It was a horrifying experience. That will never leave us me. And my wife departed from the east coast for our two days fishing trip in the north atlantic. The first day and night were normal. Be got a decent catch at night. We played cards listening to music. It was enjoyable up until the next night after slow. Ditsy we were playing cards again inside this night without the music. It was at that moment that we heard the sound of a boat. Mortar outside to see man piloting crappy old motorboat with absolutely no lights on. He had stopped directly in front of our bow. The man was middle aged. He had a beard and a baseball cap on. I went up closer nest and if you needed help. He asked us if we had any spear gasoline. I apologized told them we didn't. I asked the man if used low on fuel and if he needed right back to the shore but he declined he claimed he had plenty of guests which brought an awkward silence as me and my wife wondered why he asked us for guests. Then the silence started to creep me and my wife out mostly because of the way he just blankly stared at me. The only reason i could see was because of the deck light in the front of boat other than that. We were surrounded by darkness. The man finally broke the silence and asked us if we had a good catch that day. I told him we didn't still trying to be polite. Even though the situation was odd and creepy. I asked the man how he was getting around in the darkness but all he gave me was a chuckle. As if i had made a joke. I figured he missed heard me. He turned his little motorboat around and the last thing he said to us was nice. Meeting you folks. He sailed off into the total blackness surrounding us me and my wife completely weirded out my wife told me she was afraid he was going to rob us being fisher. You run into and make conversation so their sailors and fishers all the time. But i knew something about that. Guy was off the fact that he came up to a so late at night so far from the shore and alone in that little motorboat and the way he acted. We were both really uncomfortable. So i decided to turn out our lights and still been more just to make sure the guy couldn't find us again. Call me paranoid later that night. Probably around two. In the morning. I woke up to the disturbing ear piercing. Scream of my wife. Shot wayne position to see a man standing at the edge of our bed. I lunged out of the bed towards the man but he was out of the cabin before he could even get out of the room. I heard the sound of the same motorboat starting before speeding away into the darkness again we sailed all the way back to the shore that night and reported the man right away. Of course. Nothing was ever heard of the topic again. We still have no idea what the man wanted or what he was planning on doing. But it still gives me nightmares to this day. The way my bedroom was laid out. Was that across the room for my dad. A small alcove that does not receive any light because of the closet that slightly in front of it. So the closet blocks the ceiling light in the ambient light from outside when it's stark house and fourth year high school and was trying to sleep. But couldn't you feeling like someone staring at you. I was feeling it. I couldn't shake it and it just felt like whatever was staring at me. Had such militias intent in it. I opened my eyes and mike as was drawn to the dark corner of the room where i saw a hazy darker in it. I got goosebumps. Thought that it was nothing there. I'm just imagining things. I closed my eyes again trying to force myself to get sleep. But i can't shake that evil feeling stare then. There was a creek. Sound the sound from somebody putting pressure on the floor. I opened my eyes again and shadow thing was in the opposite corner now. All my inner senses went ballistic. I threw my pillow and blanket over. My head is at cried myself to sleep all while hoping that the thing would income closer. I know i didn't imagine or dream it and it's still since on my spine to this day. It was the first time my family ever went camping together. I was eighteen at the time. We probably wouldn't have gone if it weren't for my brother and sister who were still only eleven and happened to be twins. It was mid july and knows actually excited to do it. We drove all the way out to the country. We didn't go to a camping site. My dad's parked the car on the side of the quiet road and we hiked about a mile into the woods until we found a small clearing in the woods. We pitched our two tents one for me and my siblings and one for my parents. So come nighttime. I couldn't sleep at all trying to fall asleep in. That sleeping bag was like trying to fall asleep on the griss. I just couldn't get to sleep. I spun around and try to make myself comfortable for mobile brother and sister had been asleep for a long time at that point and then i heard the sound of the zipper to the tent sipping down. I looked up and saw someone poking their head into the tent. Couldn't see who was dad whispered. Whever was removed their head from the inside of the tent. Dad said louder wherever was quickly moved away from the tent. Weaving it unzipped. I was so confused. Our sure it was my mom or dad. Just checking on me. So i crawled out of the tent and walked over to my parents tin ions. It crawled inside. my parents. Were both in their sleeping bags. I shook my dad and sleep. Woke up. I asked him if he had just checked on us no. I got chills as he said it is then woke up. My mom hoping that it was her but she groggily told me that she hadn't left attempt. Either i got goosebumps all over as it came to the realization that somebody actually came up towards hint opened up the zipper and appeared inside. A stranger falling knows some sort of psycho. I couldn't even really tell my parents took me seriously or not. Or maybe. I just don't remember but i do remember that. I didn't get a minute of sleep that night. My parents were on their honeymoon to key west when they arrived at the hotel to check in they were told that the room would be non smoking with my dad being a smoker. They requested a different room. They got the room switch and went to their room as they got off elevator. The smell fresh paint was overwhelming down the hall. That was a painter with all necessary. Supplies lead out around him as he was painting. The wall as my parents walked past him. They casually greeted him in the paint had absolutely no acknowledgement of their presence. Whatever when they got to their room the small paint was even worse in there so bad it wasn't even bearable so they decide to go to the front desk to change rooms when they explained the situation. The attendant looks very confused and informed them that there wasn't a scheduled paint job on that floor for that day but agreed to change their room. Anyway my parents go back to their floor to grab their luggage and the painters completely gone all supplies cleaned up and gone within ten minutes and the smell of pain was completely gone at this point. My parents were freaked out but didn't think much of it and went to their new room the next morning on the way to breakfast they overhear a tour guide talking to a group. My parents tuned in when the guide mentioned the floor that they were originally supposed to stay on. Apparently a long time ago. There was a painter on that floor painting and fell down the lv to shift to his death now. My parents don't normally believe in the paranormal but after an event like this that they had explanation for it freaked them out a good deal. This story didn't happen to me. It happens my cousin and yet it still freaks me out thinking about it. This story is all too true. My cousin nikki was on skype with his girlfriend. Salmon around one in the morning on a friday night. She was asking him to come over and stay the night but he didn't really want to drive over that week. Sometime into the conversation. Nikki notice the closet door behind. Sam open a crack. Nikki pointed it out and semi turned and looked at the closet. They both ended up ignoring it. It was probably another half hour into the conversation that the closet door creaked open. Even more nikki spotted it again and told sam that her little brother must be hiding in the closet. She denied it and told him the windows open or something so there must have been addressed. It was about half an hour later. That the closet door completely opened and somebody stepped out of the closet and walked out of sam's bedroom. Sam didn't seem to notice but nikki got startled from what he just saw. He told her that her little brother was hiding in a closet. But what she said next scared nikki shitless. She told him that she was home alone. That night nikki started yelling at the screen for her to lock her door and call the police and that he would be over there as fast as he could. Sam just started to understand the situation as she turned into the closet door completely open. He ran over to her doorway and lead out a blood curdling scream. Before slamming the door shut and locking it drove over as fast as he could call the police when he got there. The front door was left open so he ran into the house into sam's room. He knocked on the door and told her it was him but she wouldn't answer. When the police finally arrived they busted open the door to find her curled up in the corner of the woman shock. She later told the police that she had seen somebody standing face to face with her at the doorway before shutting the door it was a dark and stormy night the kind of stormy that i loved thunder and lightning roaring so staying up late watching movies. I lived with my dad but he wasn't home that night us working nights anyway. After i finished watching the movie forrest gump to the hundred time i decided to him was a good time to get some shutout. I loved going sleep during thunderstorms. It was just enjoyable to listen to. But suddenly i heard the sound of something hitting my window. It wasn't the sound of rain hitting the window but in such a big storm. I didn't think much of it and put my head back down but a few seconds later the same noise something hits the window again. This time it may sound to be a rock hitting the window. My heart started racing. It couldn't my dad he would. He would call if something was wrong. Another rock hits the window. I found myself glued to my bed. I didn't want to look out the window. But whoever was outside shirley knew i was up there. I just turned the tv off. They could have seen the bright glare through the window. I just decided if i ignored it. They would go away another rocket the window and then another it was getting faster. The rain started to lighten up. And that's when. I heard the sound of a truck engine running down in the street. A much louder thump. To the window is where. I drew the line. I got out of my bed planning to call the cops. I ran down the stairs towards the phone but as a past the front door a source something something through the glass window at the top of the door. it was of person looking through to me. It seemed like they had a smile on their face. I sprinted to the kitchen and called the police. They said there was an officer nearby and they should be there shortly. Wherever was at the door started fiddling with doorknob and eventually ramming into trying to busted open. I grabbed the knife for protection and the other. The police were coming before running back upstairs to my room after about a minute the ramming to the doorstops and there were no more rocks hitting my window. I still didn't dare to look out the window. But i remember hearing the sound of the truck drive off a few minutes later. I heard the son of a police siren outside and moments later. The doorbell ring. I explained everything to the officer. I described the face as best as i could. Unfortunately i couldn't provide him any information about the vehicle. If only i looked out the window astill regret not taking a quick look. Those never enough info for the police to catch these people not sure if they had intention of robbing my house or much worse.

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Strange News: Drones and Shotguns, Paris Hilton and the Troubled Teen Industry, Harry Reid Doubles Down on UFOs

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Strange News: Drones and Shotguns, Paris Hilton and the Troubled Teen Industry, Harry Reid Doubles Down on UFOs

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Government conspiracies history is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now. or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A production of IHEART Brady. Hello welcome back to the show. My name is Matt My name is old they call me bed and we are joined as always with our super producer Alexis code-named Dot Holliday Jackson Moose importantly you are you. You are here and that makes this stuff. They don't want you to know it's the top of the week, which means it's time for our strange news segment and. We. Have some doozy's here. Actually before we started rolling, we were talking back and forth about Some of the difficulties we add just getting this down to three stories. Several of these may be familiar but I it's GonNa be very strange if you're already aware of all three so. GotTa say null as soon as you told us about your story for today I was torn man because my first reaction was this is terrible and frightening and my second reaction was this looked so cool and a sci fi film. That we've seen in SCI FI phones. It makes me think of Terminator Two when you see that epic scene of the the actual terminator, Excess Skeletons, crushing skulls with their giant bulldozer things, and there's these flying. Looking, things with mounted laser cannons one would assume this is sort of like that only a little more grounded and. I guess passes for reality these days There's an article in express dot co Dot. UK The headline really says it all British Army unveils first shotgun armed drone which uses a I down. Enemies. Way For it indoors. Wow. Combat drone close. It's exactly right matt close combat droves and you sort of think to yourself like that seems like a thing that they would have already done or that somebody would have already had this idea doesn't seem particularly unique, but it turns out that. Drones need open spaces to fly efficiently because of a lot of things because of you know bumping into stuff but also just air current and apparently indoors in close quarters walls actually disrupt the airflow in such a way that can caused drones to become unwieldy. When they fly and the British Army is working with a company to develop these particularly sophisticated drones that are armed with double barrel to double barrel shotguns that can fly indoors and the one really important news for this would be. Let's say you've breached the walls of an enemy stronghold of some kind and you want to send folks in like Swat, style kick in the doors and do all the cool hand movements and all that stuff and you know throwing up the different six signals and flanking and whatnot. And that's when a lot of people die because you're going into unknown territory and that's usually people waiting. You know fully armed to to take you out and so you're kind of at a disadvantage there with these little guys you can send them in ahead to scout the thing 'cause they'd be equipped with cameras to, but they're also equipped with close range blasters essentially that can take some of these enemy. Down Literally, I gotTA say. I fully retract my earlier statement about this being cool and a sci fi sense because I was thinking of something different that maybe will happen. I initially in my head was thinking of a drone, it'll will be small enough to be mounted on a shotgun or another firearm such that you could shoot that you could discharge the firearm, and then if someone is running away, you can click another trigger and then a drone goes after them to monitor them. That's what I was thinking. Drones. Then is imaginative. My friend I liked that that says out of like an anime or are maybe total recall. That's super cool But yeah, these are these are drones with these. Games with firearms attached to they have six Roeder's. And it uses a combination of AI and sort of more advanced physics to stay in the air in these small rooms. They don't say exactly how it does it but a lot of these drones that we're talking about even the smaller ones deal with the phenomenon that is very. Affectionately referred to as wall suck. Which gives that thing I was talking about it can cause drones with heavier. Payloads or carrying heavier equipment to crash because of the way the air is displaced when they're indoors. That makes sense. I've seen There are other drones that have that kind of weaponry I think Russia's as reported by the verge specifically does have a drone with a literal shotgun mounted on the frame but that thing I think would just from the shape of it looks like it would be vulnerable to wall suck like you're describing I and it's meant at least officially to hunt down other drones. But with this I think from the design, you're describing that those multiple multiple rotors give it much more I guess agility freedom of movement, and it can work with that lack of air currents because you're right a lot of these especially the ones that seem kinda. Design almost like paper planes or stereo typical playing a lot of those feel like they have to have a ton of open space which just. Would render them useless indoors. So this is Technologically speaking this is great breakthrough but what do you I mean? What do you think's GonNa Happen or are they? So they're announcing these they've unveiled them but do they have When they're coming out. We were all three of US trying to find some footage or like a prototype photo or something and doesn't seem like it's at that level. This may I. Don't know if this was announced if this is like a leak or something but there's a couple articles about it. This one on Gizmodo has a little bit more. Info it was it's something that's being. Spearheaded by the United Kingdom Strategic Command, which is the agency that supports the Ministry of Defence and they are the company that is developing these battle drones. Has Gone remained unnamed but we do know that the model number underdevelopment of called the I nine and that it is operated by a person with remote control and the I in addition to. Helping maintain equilibrium indoors also identifies targets. So essentially has like Predator Vision on board, his kind of targeting capabilities I'm assuming with some kind of infrared some ability, he no night vision or what have you for different situations is yes. There's an article in the Times. That has. I think maybe it's a picture of the drone. Is it the I nine with the six? The EXA Copter. That's just an example of a hexagon after. But I haven't looked at sorry I haven't looked at the time I was looking at Forbes this thing is being reported all over the place, but again it's In slightly different ways, and maybe it's just because some of the reporting is bringing in mention of several other types of drones and several other companies. So it's a little confusing as to whether or not they are naming the company or not but. It in several it does say an as of yet to be named company. That's right. That's what I'm seeing too, and this would be the only purpose for this thing The endure close combat stuff. You could actually be used to knock other drones out of the sky. And there could be other models that replace these dual shotguns with a small rocket launcher or a chain gun which I believe is kind of like assist automatic machine gun type situation isn't it? Changes in say a Gallon Gun, right? This is the craziest thing to me is whatever they're using to control the actual stabilization of the vehicle like that's got to be so robust to be able to fire something with so much force. Still be flying the air. Enough for a human pilot continue to pilot because right you. You just imagine the shake that would occur if you've. Last words against the all you know yeah the recoil resistance is clearly one of the primary breakthroughs and they've from a programming and engineering perspective bloods. The thing is the as regardless of how smart a drone can be. We have to remember that shot gun is dumb and bullets are dome. It's not as though a shotgun at least the kind they're talking about we'll have amunition that is capable somehow of differentiating between a target and a civilian like innocent people will likely die if something like this is deployed inside a council estate, which is kind of like a subsidized housing in the UK. They're they're crowded dense areas I. don't I would be interested to hear how the I is aiming to. Differentiate between targets and find the right person. 'cause facial recognition is screwed right now it's it's clearly got problems that that's that's a really good point I will say it it. It does require input from the operator to actually deploy. You know weaponry on target. So it's Nice I, think just decide on its own to to murder people. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's specifically because of being designed by the armed forces, it's specifically for conflicts essentially that are occurring. Blamed in Afghanistan or another country where there's there's a official essentially war conflict. True. But. Yeah, exactly, that's how this stuff rolls out right tested out in tested out in the country that. Will Test. Out in the country that is a war zone right skirts some of the other legal restrictions that would exist in your country. And then give it to the law enforcement of your home country. I mean that's why like why do you think there's so many m wraps. As part of US law enforcement today there's a huge business. Well, it's the same thing that we talked about that slippery slope with that clearview facial recognition software where it's Oh. No, this is only for law enforcement guys don't be crazy. But in the same way that a lot of things like tasers and radar detectors and we've talked about this, you know start off as only for law enforcement or only military eventually if they're affordable enough or can be copied. which something like this I mean surely it's going to be quite expensive, but I can't imagine it'd expensive is like one of the massive vs as you know that look like a small airplane I mean you know it'd probably mean tens of thousands of dollars rather than like hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's just my guess I picture a world where if you wanted to, you could get your own dual shotgun drown. Able Make Them Has Been Making you know unlike the backyard experiment level people been making this stuff? In their own houses they the thing is again, the recoil problem I'm sure you could find plenty of videos where someone's like all right we're gonNA fire the gun I mounted on this Joan and then you see the camera on the drone just sort of go. Smashes into a tree. This is something that's on their radar of some you know human rights organizations. I. Mean. First of all a US company Duke Robotics. Recently released an OCTA COPTER They can carry heavy weapons. From. That say vote be used in various military applications including. Here's where it gets crazy Ben border patrol law enforcement. Drone on drone warfare and counter terrorism. Cheese. Again, slippery slope and then there's actually human. Rights Watch published a paper recently that kind of talked about. Some of the issues behind lethal autonomous weapons. But also mentioned that they quote can have military and humanitarian benefits. And that was a paper that was delivered in August of last year at the Convention on Conventional. Weapons. Group of governmental experts. In reference to the UK. Research as well, and then last thing there's this is real there's. Not Organization, but it's like I guess a movement it's called the. Coalition called the campaign to stop killer robots. And, that's the thing you can look into yourself of this is a stance that you want to take their there for you. And it says quote the US China Israel South Korea Russia, and the UK developing weapons systems with significant autonomy in the critical functions of selecting and attacking targets because you know the next logical step is eliminating the human element entirely. If we. Now, if we believe it's the same with Thomas Vehicles I mean those things are death machines yeah potentially. Yeah I agree really. It's harmless vehicles. Yeah. Man The math potentially I'm just saying potentially a vehicle is a lethal weapon. So yeah, sure four I understand that you're that you're behind the science and the and the the systems and it did they do tend to be very efficient, but you could apply that same logic if we get far enough along the technology, someone's going to be like well, who needs humans anymore let's just the machines. Now we've program them to know the difference. Let's just let them. Let it roll right. The future of humanity is ghost haunting and Automated House right where rain don't have agency to make. Decisions and so on the thing with. The reason I'm Hobbyhorse on autonomous vehicles, which I personally I personally wouldn't want one is that they the science is there if the infrastructure is in place and if the majority of vehicles are autonomous than the highways become much safer, that's true. But then I guess the next question is how far away are we from someone gaining in Thomas Vehicle and mounting weapons on that one day, and then just setting it on its Mary Way Thomas Weapons. We have in place. We don't legislation will catch up after the deaths unfortunately that's another part of the statement from this campaign to stop killer robots says that this type of automation of lethal weapons quote shifts the burden of conflict even further onto civilians which, I. Think is interesting way of looking at it as we're talking about, it's it's the collateral damage that you can't prevent the up with a shotgun or a rocket launcher. It's acceptable Matt it's within the margin within an acceptable margin. Yeah. If you get one enemy combatant than job done. Right and it's kind of like you know. Those quotes you hear every so often the military that say. We killed you know X. amount of people we killed ten people we were mainly gunning for this one person but because we killed that one person, we saved two thousand people. If you look at the math right and then they start doing that insidious game, then they'll say really we save nine, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety people you just have to subtract the ten. Co, which is a terrible thing. But but I guess we're going to see these pretty soon because make no mistake I. if there is a research like this going on in. Any country in the US is doing it as well as a matter of policy. That's like we don't. That's just. Our. Government deciding it doesn't want to have some kind of defense or technological gap. That's absolutely right and then it really is just kind of you know it's one of those things that if unchecked could lead to a an escalation of this kind of thing you know fully autonomous. Because we're pretty confident in our tech. We surely Louis like Oh we like a good tech you know. The less the more we can eliminate a job if we don't need it the the better I for some of these folks. Move, very excellent point story for different day. Why does everybody forgets? We're not going to go directly to a post work economy. We're going to go to a post worker economy. People will still need jobs they just won't be around. It's there are a lot of plots was between us and the Topa World of star. Trek. Butts. There we have it. All, in any last words, this one well, not not on that really quickly that I couldn't I couldn't help myself this came up when I was looking for stories today unrelated to anything even remotely conspiratorial but maybe There is a new book released on Amazon. by M J Edwards that's called Kissing Corona virus and I wanna read. From Wuhan to Washington. I want to read you this this description real quick. She was supposed to cure the coronavirus instead she fell in. Love with Dr. Alexa Ashington Ford is part of a crack team of scientists tasked with finding the cure to the devastating corona virus. Little. Did she know she would end up falling in love with it in the steamy viral erotica kissing. Corona virus is a steamy Dale about forbidden love and dark desires come to life. That's that's real and you could purchase that. 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Hello and we are back and for this next story we well, I'm just GonNa give credit where credit is due. My wife showed me a portion of a youtube video she was watching on the night prior to this. And it was on the feed of one Paris Hilton. The Paris Hilton the Perez Hilton, the one and. To, be completely honest. This is not somebody that I have. Thought about or you know honestly been looking at anything from for for a long time? I, guess because. Paris Hilton had such a large stardom. What was that? The early two thousands were? Being doing. For being an heiress. That's right. But she was palling around with what's her face Lionel Ritchie's daughter. Show where they like worked on a farm or something you know. Walmart cell walls one of the snack of quote. That era. But yeah, it was yeah. Yeah, I think. People know who this individual is. Was a golden time for vapid celebrity culture. That's for sure. We're still in those Halcyon days fair. You know what I mean. Yes, and before you judge Perez Hilton too hard everybody out there. there. I would say in those times that is very much the way I received the message. That was Paris Hilton right realms. The those feelings were very much mutual. I'm and I'm not saying that I'm completely one eight hundred on her but. What my wife showed me definitely made her much more dimensional. In interesting and heartbreaking way. She released something on Youtube called the real? Story. Of Paris Hilton this is Paris official documentary. You probably just look this is Paris official documentary and you can watch it for free on Youtube Right now and again to be honest with you. I wasn't. Terribly, interested in most of the hour and forty five that exists within that documentary. However, there are a few sections in here where. Paris herself. In along with several other. People they get together and discuss their experiences in what is described as. a series of boarding houses and institutions that are meant to curb bad behavior doing that in quotations that exists within teenagers. And a lot of the these specific facilities that are mentioned in the documentary are. Meant to cater to those children of the wealthy really that's what it is. If you put yourself in the shoes of apparent. my child is exhibiting behaviors that I do not want she he or she to or they to it and I am I don't know what to do. I've sent her to these other places these these other educational facilities that don't seem to be working. Now, I'm going to send her to this other place that is a whole different breed of of facility. We're not playing around now it's the it's the newer iteration or concurrent integration of the old trope of sending kid off the military. School. Yeah one example of this with the same degradations in. which I imagine we'll get into. Yes. Let's let's jump ahead a bit here within this documentary. Perez Hilton divulges that she had been through many of these institutions she had in many of them. She'd done things like called her grandfather. And had him come and pick her up she would escape by one way or another sometimes running with a friend or another child who had escaped running through the wilderness until they were caught she had essentially done several prison breaks and then eventually her parents had had enough and they wanted to I guess they just decided to take that next step that we've been describing here. They're going to send her to essentially a prison where children are kept and educated in various ways. and. She divulged within the documentary that seventeen she was awoken in the middle of the night. There were people individuals from this specific school called the Provo Canyon School. And she was taken from her home forcibly in the middle of the night her parents were there watching and crying as it was occurring And this was a very traumatic event for her I mean obviously right doesn't matter who you are. If have that happen. Really. Traumatic and once she got there in the middle of nowhere in PROVO UTAH. She was kept for eleven months. and. While she was there she along with the other students were prescribed medications, pills that were unknown to them there. It wasn't as though they consulted with a psychiatrist or something, and then they were prescribed a pill and then there's an understanding or something of these are children and we will give them the medication that they need essentially is what the feeling is here, force them to take it were. They were entertained with the risk of punishment and so many horrible things about this I feel like I know. Exactly. Okay. Yeah. The concept here is that they were control mechanisms for the facility to us on the children. So mood stabilisers, anti-depressants, things that are going to make the children tired and numb really so that they aren't acting out in ways that the facility and perhaps the parents see as acting out There was also a again alleged by Paris and several other children who had gone through this specific school pcs or Provo Canyon School they described. Physical Abuse. Solitary confinement and the one that Peres describes here, which is animated very well in my opinion in in the show itself in the documentary, she describes being sent to Confinement Chamber for nearly twenty hours where she was stripped of most of her clothes and left in the cold and. When she was in this moment, she describes it as. Having a realizations about her life about what she needs to do to survive essentially, and she in that moment at least according to the documentary decides to create. The version of Paris, Hilton that we all know as Paris Hilton. The her specific speech patterns the way she was going to live her life that she believed would be. I guess interesting enough to make her a celebrity to be successful. And it was because of this. Just terrible treatment that you know at least according to her and some and some of her friends and family there. This was this was the moment that Paris Hilton was born essentially. The version that we know I it's just very, very strange and she describes a lot of the same things that. Perhaps we imagined when we discuss Britney spears, several months or missing months. Now weeks I'm you know how long it was like we don't know everything that someone has gone through when they are a celebrity right and we don't know. how they got there. No really what I'm saying here it's just. I guess, in. The. End. This really did change the way I. Think about her and made me feel like maybe I was being quite a bit too judgmental early on even though the actions that was taking when she was very popular on television all the time and the persona that she was projecting was not something that I liked I don't know. I see on that man and I, think it's something that we're. We're somewhere between encouraged and indoctrinated to do in modern celebrity culture. Now, like you, you're not supposed to think of these. People as living breathing people with all the flaws, all the horrors, all the noble components that every human being has and you're not supposed to think of them as having rights would you talk about that image? The first thing that POPs in my mind? I'm sure a lot of our fellow listeners is the control that producers have when they curate reality inner reality show I'm using air quotes. Reality Show and this. This then seems like there's an argument that the public persona people are aware of today is crafted in some. To some degree as a response to abuse. Would you say that's The the long short of it I mean. There's certainly evidence to support that, right. You know my my wife. We've talked about this before on the show with my wife specifically works with children who are classified in the state of Georgia as having emotional behavioral disorders, and they're generally children who have been kicked out of one institution or another in order to end up where. In the program that my wife is a part of and. I mean you know Obviously hip laws and everything she can't tell me. The full story of any child is you can't tell me really any full details of any child, but we can we talk more on the surface of things in. Categories in almost like you're saying. All of these children have gone through something. Terribly, traumatic. In our, you know again, I'm not a psychologist I don't know what I'm talking about. I just know that the commonality here is trauma and then attempting to express. And work through those feelings and and. Doing it in in ways that I guess society at large views as negative. God. That's Vegas. Hell and I'm sorry. But that's Yeah I. Think. You're you're you're spot on I mean to me it's a matter of like controlled to of being able to control ones own destiny perhaps in a really extreme fashion but you know it's an extre- backlash to extreme things that have happened to someone like this. I. Really Please don't anybody act like I'm being. flippant when I used this as an example, but it's like superhero origin stories you know it takes something very dramatic to happen to somebody oftentimes for them to make this huge pivot to like, I am going to self style myself as the antithesis of this thing that I was that was week or that was his version of myself that allowed me to be taken advantage of are allowed me to be a victim and I'll never be that again and so I'll like. The most extreme version in the other direction. Joseph Cambell us. Yeah. The the hero with a thousand faces, right There is. Just real quick. If you guys are okay with it, I would like to share some realities of what's called the troubled teen industry and why those Is Just my opinion I don't think you should ever send your kids to a place like this I there's like. Zero Regulation for multimillion dollar industry in the US alone the punishments are ineffective. They don't work kids have died in these programs. Because of those punishments like you said, Matt Kids are getting snatched Elian Gonzalez style from their homes Believe you said Paris Hilton had to call her grandfather right to to get out. and. And just being able to get outside communication is quite a coup. Many of these programs they are private companies, which means they are profit motivated. And the light. Again. The. Thing about the methods they use. That are brutish insane is that they are ineffective look at our earlier episodes on whether or not torture works spoiler alert it doesn't and that's what they're doing. And it's A. Good. Point Ben and I don't disagree with your opinion sir. Again. I'm not a psychologist I'm no. Yeah it's the same. It's the same deal right but. I totally agree with your assessment though. It feels as though they don't work. If they are being if the children are being treated like prisoners. And the scary thing is that for decades there has been thinking within the field of psychology. There's been all kinds of testing that's been occurring to see what would actually benefit a quote unquote troubled teen, and one of the big one of the big things that. W- was purported to work really well, something called wilderness therapy and being out in the middle of nowhere like this in Provo Canyon doing hard labour. Working with your hands, creating other parts of the facility, actually creating buildings, building stuff, chopping wood refining things like that working with equipment and being extremely regimented the way a military would be. And at. So many of these places abuse terrible abuse has been alleged by individuals within the facilities and sometimes in a few select cases abuse at the top of the food chain within within one of these organizations and those are few and far between. But when something like that is alleged. Hits really. Hard. And I just want to put out here. If. If anyone's listening has ever been through something like this. Before we move onto any other stuff, please write to us. Let us know your experience. Let us know if you went to the Provo Canyon protests that Paris Hilton and numerous others just did the they just held a large protest to to shut down the school and to possibly even. Have some other kind of regulations brought forth just on the industry in general in if you are interested in any of that stuff and you aren't aware of it, I would recommend heading to the website Breaking Code Silence Dot Net, that's B., R., e., A. K. I. N. G. C. O. D. S. I l. e. n. c., E. DOT net. They're also hashtags on instagram and other places where you can join the conversation there. But this is where people are sharing their stories about going through a school like this in in what they went through and how they're coping. Really. The final final thing here is that Provo Canyon School. Which is the The Question here that Paris was talking about they put forth a statement. And from October ninth. Twenty. Twenty And in their statement. They're saying that the Provo Canyon School was sold. In August of two thousand and they cannot comment on operations our patient experience prior to that timeline which we get there, they're a for profit. Institution like we said, they can't come out in. At least it's probably it would be difficult for them to come out and apologize or you know. Do some kind of PR move that would make people feel a little better. What they do say is that the school provides a structured environment teaching life lessons providing behavioral health therapy and continuing education for youth who come to us with pre existing and complex emotional behavioral and psychiatric needs. That's the official word from from the school and you can check that out at. PROVO PR VOC A. N. Y. O. N.. Dot Com Provo Canyon Dot. com. Let. US know if you would be interested in hearing a full episode on this industry, which is wildly successful financially I think we would also want to. Pay Special attention to what's called conversion therapy. Is the use of institutionalization and pretty brutish methods. To try to make young people to try to fundamentally change young people's sexual identity or orientation with still for some reason, still legal only nineteen states have band this counting DC. But yeah, this is a big problem to let us know if you'd like to hear more about it and as Matt said share your stories us we'd love to hear them. Now we'll pause for one more word from our sponsor and will head back to the skies. New shotguns this. Well. We all know because whatever's up there is unidentified. GEICO presents, Monster Counseling Dracula. Tell me how you're feeling. No one understands how lonely these no one will even let me into their house I knock knock but they ignore me. What else I look in the Mirror Don't even see myself anymore if you don't see yourself clearly, can you really expect others to I'm having a breakthrough it's not easy to be a vampire, but with GEICO, it's super easy to switch and save hundreds on your car insurance. Does this class look haunted. I don't think. So what about those two creepy girls Con-? Stay pass back. He's truly frightening. You know it's fairly Siri missing a guy goes great service with Kako you get twenty four seven access to licensed agents. Thank you creepy girls to see her room. Sleeping the car now. Switch today for twenty, four, seven access to licensed agents. And we're back. So, this was this was hard for me to avoid mentioning because I. Try, not. To bug you guys on the weekends because I'm like the last thing they need is is crazy texts. From this Gironi butts here's what happened quite recently. Harry Reid who you have heard about if you follow the US news. was recently in a documentary. And documentaries called the phenomenon director named James Fox. Harry says something interesting. You recognize him the former Senate majority leader of the US. He said that the US government has been hiding key details about UFO's for years and years. Now this is something that Matt Knoll the team and I. predicted. It was celebrated reading tea leaves. It was a pretty easy prediction to make. But he goes on in this documentary and says some very choice things he said. Quote. Why the federal government, all these years has covered up put brake pads on everything stopped it meaning the investigations or the coverage of Investigations I think it's very, very bad for our country says read. Says that he is aware that most of the research that was conducted which we know a little bit about. Has Not yet seen the light of day. He says that there are not only ufo's that the federal government cannot explain, but there's quote more than one up there which is. bonkers right for this guy to confirm that. He, Baz Senate majority leader, and given his various committees that he was on. He. Would have access to this information like this came out in twenty, one, thousand nine. Or twenty eighteen, it'd be huge news. But we're in two thousand twenty where Jews is hitting like every seven minutes Ben Correct me if I'm wrong this in the with the Harry, Reid had with this with the UFO programs was announced a little while ago when when. That when that footage I came out, right right a navy footage. Here he wasn't. Harry. Reid one of the guys that disclosed that it was an ongoing program. Yes that's correct. He was one of the lawmakers behind that classified program which has been officially closed. But since he's left office, he's been more and more outspoken about it. I think we all know. Okay it's like you have a job where you can't officially say stuff like we probably all have friends who for the bulk of their life couldn't have social media because of their career. This guy is in a similar situation, right and your retire your friend retires and all the sudden there a savage on facebook or twitter whatever, and now this guy is becoming increasingly outspoken I. Think he's testing the waters will want to do what emphasize. He is adamant that the investigation should price science and not assume extraterrestrials keep in mind we as a species spend billions and billions and billions of dollars. Monitoring The sky and we're mostly watching the sky because we don't trust each other and history has proven. We should never trust each other as countries but. We're seeing things that all these billions of dollars still can't explain which to me is like what a time to be alive moments. Can. You imagine we're finding is just like Venus refinding. Alien. Life Right as we close the curtain on life on earth. They may be depressing. But, but it's it's strange though you would think. Again. We're not the people in charge of the skies, but you would think that with all the money, all the blood sweat time tears and treasures spent. We've you. At least in the US would have a slightly better grasp of what's going on I mean, what are you guys think? Do you think? Do you think we're monitoring our own planes. Do you think those pilots or seeing things that are like skunkworks products? That's You know we've talked about it before. It seems as though that is the most likely explanation for most. Unexplained aerial phenomena is at the is, is that it now or no? Yes. Okay I can't remember. So many acronyms somebody's. but yeah, I. Think I think as we've discussed on previous episodes. That's probably probably mostly what we've been seeing if not just. Someone who doesn't know what? Types of vehicles are in the air at the time and they see something weird them out but they don't do any background on whether or not. You know there's a specific aircraft in the vicinity or something, but there are definitely some strange occurrences that still need to be looked into and that's essentially what Harry Reid was saying, right? We know that there's something going on. It doesn't matter where it comes from as long as we're spending money to figure out what it is like. Doesn't it seem like we should at least spend some money on it. Maybe a little more money. Because it could be bad. And I mean the magnitude of it. It's like something out of independence era blockbuster science fiction franchise. Their reports confirmed of an unidentified object in one thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, seven, appearing like. Out of thin air over missile base in the US and then. Coinciding with its appearance, ten of those missiles became inoperative I mean this is this is crazy stuff. It doesn't matter whether these are extraterrestrials or let's get crazy and say it's a universe the left of ours on some kind of weird perpendicular quirk chain. Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if they're from poughkeepsie or Peru there is technology that exists this is i. think a nice companion piece to your earlier. News about drones no there's technology that exist that. The US may not control or may not understand I mean bigalow definitely has something. The only real argument is what that is about. What that thing is you know what I mean and how much involvement skin Walker ranch has right? Exactly. This is fascinating. Harry Reid Man. Never would have thought he'd be the guy. Coming forward. Let's get on the show. If he down but I wouldn't want to talk about UFO's there's so many other things on read about. School of America's. Why milk came in bags for like just a couple a year or two then went back to cartons. Yeah. My priorities are admittedly a little skewed but other other missing kids stuff. So. Good. Really. Really Cool. So Phan, what does it call phenomena or phenomenon the phenomenon the phenomenon cool. I'M GONNA have to watch that trailer. And I have to ask I have to ask you guys what do what do you see feel like maybe answered this earlier what do you see as the most likely explanation like if it's US technology? then. Why does it seem like himself is not aware of it you know what? What could it be because right now this reminds me of. Angel Hearts. Spoiler. Mickey rourke characters. Higher. Hunt himself as a detective. Chasing our own tail well, his. Okay to answer the question first of all. Harry Reid was a Democrat and Senate majority leader effort time right. and. I'm just wondering why he would be in the know about ultra sensitive. Topics. Like this compartmentalized. Yeah. For mental is things like why would they ever let anyone in the Senate know about something like this if it were the real program Right I know that sounds weird. That's a good question. If it were the real program, it feels as though Gosh I feel naive even saying this if feels to me as though if Harry Reid was aware of. A A program that was monitoring ufo's within the United States that it was probably. The program or the program that's like the okay. Yeah, we'll. We'll. We'll let there be something because a few senators and public officials know there're all these reports and they get call sometimes we'll let them have twelve million or whatever. It's going to be to look up in the sky and monitor for a little bit. meanwhile, the two options are it's all US technology and it's all secret or it's definitely aliens and the military doesn't want the Senate or anybody else to know about it. Okay. Okay. I take it I like it I like the idea. It makes sense to me of a dummy program because the best way to prevent people from. Making progress toward her discovery you want to hide is to provide the illusion of progress toward a discovery right and bonus points. If it's unrelated, you know Joe I don't know I don't know what do you think? No. It's hard as I mean look. I don't know I I. It's. Both make really good points like it feels like you know the level of clearance that this stuff requires people wouldn't just casually know about it like I don't know. I mean. Here read was like a part of it right but you're saying that even he Wouldn't have had the the deepest knowledge of everything going on? I'm I'm being a little facetious. I don't know I guess I'm I'm allowing my more conspiratorial brain to come out but. It's at least the the secret. The Secret Senate facing or program, right? That's what we're talking about. Right. So still secret. But the Senate was aware of it and I guess. To me just feels like. I don't know maybe I've just watched too many movies. Men May washing inside things too many things is just feels like you wouldn't allow for that if it was real or maybe you've read too many history books because they could totally happen look at the CIA was the left hand of the US government. Moves that the Right Hand Aka Congress was not aware of you know. Like I really appreciate the point about compartmentalize intelligence being. This the thing we don't really talk about in the US the thing we should be talking about more in the United States is the division and the different at times contradictory aims of. What I would call the multiple actual governments. Don't confuse this with the deep state argument. What I am saying is that a lot of the power, a lot of the influence, the funding and the classification of what is or is not secret is squarely the domain of unelected government officials appointees who exists regardless of which team happens to hold the presidency or the congressional majority. Those folks are able to unlike say a president or unlike say most senators they are able to work on a multi decade time horizon they can make a change, they can do something that. Politician would be terrified to do because it would get them perhaps rightly booted out of office. Now, there are two separate things here and maybe. What we're calling UFO's. That's the demeanor of the people we don't get to vote for Maybe they're all just early prototypes of that drone with a shotgun man or the shotgun wound. Get. Way Too into that idea. The drone sh the nested drone tro shooter. Yeah. Exactly. To unrelated stories we didn't. I didn't report on I. Really wanted to I'll just give you the headline. So we end a slightly less. Depressing Note I. Allied Musk is in deals with the US government to make some completely unclean evil space weapons. That's what he's doing with the Tesla. Money second of France has decided to distribute medical cannabis. For free. Cool heard about that heard about the just like chill people out during all this craziness I you know they said. Quote. This is you guys see the New South Park pandemic? I only mentioned it because the pandemic special quote unquote is actually Randy's like discount we'd deal that he. You know every now is it makes light of the fact that we dealers like business went through the roof during the pandemic Iki Iki people thinking him for all really like the pandemic special and it's a it's a key plot point in the whole episode. So now he seems very forward thinking much like the French. I'll check out yet. They're rolling it out for three thousand people in March of next year not too clear on the qualifications you have to have. This may be good or bad news for some of our listeners you do have to live in France. But no. I'm just thinking three thousand people think about the population. Of France, and three three thousand people get for you eat and how are they being chosen? Terminal. Are these people with terminal there incurable conditions there are certainly more than three thousand of those people alive in a country. That size is there like a do you have to submit a high idea and like the best ones get free weed? I have never heard the Portmanteau a high idea and Ju- right that. No that's wonderful. That's I can't really talk about it but. It is. That's that's wonderful. Also, the word Portmanteau is itself a Portmanteau that's me I did not know them. That's very met him. And with that, we are going to call it a day before the drones break in or before I guess we're. We can be honest about it. We're probably too old to be locked up in the troubled teen industry, right? I don't know. The. The troubled middle aged guy town. I think that's just prison. It sounds an awful lot like getting black bagged. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's exactly what it was. Here's hoping that the strange news does not find you getting black bagged. We want to hear from you. Before we get disappeared we try to make it easy to find us on the Internet. That's right. You can find us in the usual social media. 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Snacktime: Endless Dread

Endless Thread

16:53 min | 1 year ago

Snacktime: Endless Dread

"Personal data stolen protector online activity today and find out how you can get three months free with a one year package at express VPN dot com slash the endless thread is sponsored by express VPN offering protection from cyber criminals with just a click enjoy the Internet without being snooped on or having title a voice that knew my name I live alone in my grandparents old house and sleep in right okay I got a snack it sounds like a cookie sometimes she writes I felt someone was watching me from the window on other nights the exact moment I was falling asleep I felt voices and cream time scream time but then a handful of writers said Hello Endless Dread and list dread it's very Milano like it's cookie is a chocolate dipped cookie with marshmallow pieces in it what is it it's spooky cookies oreos Halloween were yes Ashkhabad get started at indeed dot com slash NPR podcast last year we are set of episodes that were also scary stories she I'm Gonna I'm GonNa make an assumption she moved in to be closer to her workplace she's had some scares at night so indeed if you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions and then zero in on your shortlist qualified candidates using an online presences around me and it was scary and uncomfortable apparently these these things were common so this person bought two amulets in it does sound like a cookie I was gonna say specifically a Milano you're not wrong really my cookie is oval welcome dear listeners to endless dread done done done that was three and chocolate coating wow yeah what do you got for me introducing by the island at Wvu are Boston. Anyone who's seen star Trek knows it's four Dunn's all right and everyone else even the people who have seen star Trek know that we now have accepted I an aunt and uncle apparently live in this in this house as well actually in other isolated parts of the House so I'm now twenty five I moved in three years ago well can you treat us now with an endless dread story Ben I can and this is from this called the truth is here my grandmother's room yes I'm already freaked out by this basically stopped fast forward to four months ago trying to shut my mind off and fall asleep with my face to the wall when I felt a presence behind did that that fourth done is unnecessary I mean don I say treat yourself with Dunne's that's all I'm saying signed me and I felt it extending its hand to touch me this feeling of movement jolted me alert they've spooky designs on them cool time Persson Spooky stories who knew when I heard it's voice a feminine but deep and Raspy Voice said name last name I hate you I hate place them on the bed and these things subsided these kind of voices that this person was hearing and feeling the Gaze Waking up in the night and feeling the gaze through this window this is a sub reddit that's like this really happened to me and I'm telling you this story okay the user is Bubba read it this was posted one day ago and said it and then said I hate you I hate you I hate you so the person gets terrified you I hate you in name last name this person is obviously not saying their name it's just the voice new discredited his full name falsely the same weekend in this person's parents house they go back for the weekend sometimes to visit not really remember how they reacted just remember calling their brother in telling him the story and reading with the lights on Intel until the and also to sleep there apparently because they don't WanNa sleep in the House that they live in yeah a mirror that has been hanging in the first floor bathroom in their parents house since the house was built broke in the weirdest way an uncle that lives far away had come to visit and stay in the house and we went out for breakfast as we went out the mirror was whole when we came back the mirror was broken inside the shower is if someone had picked it up in thrown it in there was not as a priest so that he would bless the house in me because I told them my story we've had weird happenings in the house before and blessings symbol that it had simply fallen off its perch because the shower was quite far away from where the mirror was perched that same day essentially the family call load herons house yeah creepy right yeah do we know any more have they gotten any suggestions let's see does this only happen when you're asleep recently awoken her about to fall asleep this could be sleep paralysis or another sleep related hallucination they're very well good thanks the voice knew my name will and whatever the says it's not specific to the grandparents house it's followed this person priests but nothing is strong is this basically the O- p. says at the very end this I think that someone has cursed me somehow I think that because Tom and no cause for alarm if you're hearing these voices during waking hours that would be more concerning either way please speak to a physician said somebody and then someone commented I hate you read it and I watch you sleep oh just like thanks a lot man encryption and anonymous Web Surfing you know it Nice let's boot it up go to express VPN dot com slash thread express vp end the as as VP and com slash thread. Okay I have one for you I'll start by asking you this do you know the story of your parents first date dot com slash thread okay okay oh there's a big red button that says get express VPN simple straightforward. I like it when you see where it says the it's around Halloween time he's with a bunch of friends telling ghost stories and a friend of his tells this story home man you know I don't and I should okay because this involves the story of a person's parents I aw I hope you're out there and okay and maybe write to us just to be sure yeah let's now you're okay bubba state we should say just full disclosure I do technically no this story but you know it much better than I yeah I've done a little digging about her parents first state and she says she doesn't even like telling the story because it's true and it freaks her out but she your subscription will come with unrestricted anonymous browsing on all of your devices phone your brain implant your desktop your laptop very clutch. CBS True Story someone has ever told you so it's posted by this read it or are w Bingham and they're writing about it he does and so the story goes like this her parents go on their first date it's kind of awkward as I states are and then around the time that you would normally say good night and you know call it the Guy Her future dad has an idea too and the first three months of my yearlong subscription are free and that is because you went to express VPN DOT com slash threads show dead that's e x p art let's do what that's create our express VPN account I gotta get ahead of the hackers insecure my Internet browsing you definitely do you're trying to get that best in class woman the the storytellers future mother agrees and This the the guy says that he knows Provo Canyon really well he's really familiar shot here before we part ways never speak again yeah it may not have gone poorly it's just you know first day jitters that being said if I okay Ben let's do that he hides in the trees and then he sees a guy walk right into the body and then he says for some reason he ignores it you know he's like for State got him press can't show that payroll he bit chill so they keep going hit his foot in the middle of the path and that's it he draws the line right here this is like the pinnacle of bad vibes on it so this was originally posted on reddit seven years ago it was a comment to an ask Reddit Post that said read it what is the cree Ted Bundy and he was asked to describe the time that he felt the closest to being caught and he tells the story later they're married that I date turned out okay apparently and they see an interview on TV with the serial killer a minute later he this feeling creeps in again that maybe we shouldn't be here they go a little further and they're you just turn around and walk away and so the T. L. Dr of all of this is that the O. P.'s they drive up the mouth of the Canyon they parked the car and they're hiking just under the light of the stars supposedly it was a new moon so it's sorry starting with could I find this news clip in which Ted Bundy refers to run you know almost being caught in CBS he and the woman his future wife high tail it out of there that's the end of the story or so they think until years later were a part of this equation I don't think

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125: Boarding School, Murder Documentaries, and Lindsie's Cheesesteak Journey

Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley

1:18:41 hr | 4 months ago

125: Boarding School, Murder Documentaries, and Lindsie's Cheesesteak Journey

"Hey everyone. Welcome to another episode of Coffee Combos podcast. First of all, I thought that you were going to do differently this time remember. What I'm I'm working on it. I I, WanNa have one of those voices that people are like. Oh, wow. She really has a radio voice. You know. Got It. Okay well. Who Will Get there? What are you doing? So. I Made Burgers for lunch and. I'm pretty sure that I did not cook mine all the way. So mine's a little on the rare side like homemade hamburgers. Yes. Wait, how fast did you do this like very quickly like when I was texting you that I was getting the kids lunch I was literally just starting. So like Isaac's is all the way cooked, but mine was not that was legitimately five minutes ago. No marinade, it is just straight up beef. A little seasoning on it. So it's fine. You know what I like to do with. Burgers and people think this is so weird but I've done this forever when even when I go to always ask for abundance Burger or ask for like a Lettuce Burger. So I do lettuce on both sides instead of bonds and it's fair to actually so good I should definitely do that because. I could do the the buns. Do you have violence today? I do have today. Good good. I'm glad that you got to run. So what has been going on? Well. A lot a lot of Shit. where. Do you want me to start? Well I would just start at the top and go down the list and see if we run out of time. Okay. I'm glad you understand me I mean I don't even remember what like my life is such a blur right now I don't even remember like where we left off I know that we're testing three times a week for Covid for filming. so that's been like crazy and then I'm in the gym for maybe five times a week now. So I've been trying to balance that with the school schedule I got sunburn on Sunday at on Saturday at Lincoln's. Football Tournament literally Lindsey. I don't know if Jackson has any interest in football it's really really fun to watch but honestly sitting at that field from eight in the morning till five at night I was like, wow, I don't know but I want to do another tournament way first of all is that normal or just like a tournament I think it's just a tournament like tournament tournament. I love you say that tournament like tournament, we're not turning anything its tournament. Turn them in. Well that's like when people say like tour versus tour. Yeah which way to say it. Tour, I say tour. You the same. No now say. Tour by. Tomato Tomato Tomato Tomato. So, just like really quickly just to touch on Lincoln's football So Lincoln's cousin I. Think I said this before on another podcast hobbies sister's son Nico plays on the same team and then lexus cousins play on Lincoln's team. So it's really cool to kind of see my kids interact altogether and just like. Lincoln thinks that Lux's cousins are his and then lexus playing with Eli and then Nico is on the team, which is you know it's just it's so cool to watch and I know it's. kind of like. You know not really great that I have three baby daddies but like seeing the kids like play together and not give a fuck is amazing it's non traditional. What you would say however. I'm kind of done without shit too because I feel like the majority of people have some sort of blended nece. I feel like I I'm the minority, right? yes. Because you don't well. Yeah I. Guess You don't have any really like blend blends. Yeah. Like in my household, right so right. I don't know I feel like it's more common or I feel like I'm more commonly hear about people who have some form of blending going on rand not. Right so I think it's awesome. I. Think it's mature. Think it's great. I think you guys keep getting along and keep playing keep doing you but staying at a football field from eight am until five pm no for me dog. Yeah. It was a long day and then we had football on Sunday the Knicks obviously the next day. So but it it was a good football game on. Sunday. So it was kind of Nice but I'm glad that this coming weekend will be the last game. It's a championship and then Lincoln don't get a little break from football. He's been going nonstop since they were letting. Them play football since like right after quarantine. so He's been playing for a couple few months now. So I think he he's looking forward to the break and we'll kind of just like focus on school and stuff. It's interesting that you say that because it was actually something that I was thinking about earlier today and last week after we podcast was that I have a friend that has multiple children of various ages. So like let's say ten and then four. So she told me that their family decided for an entire year that they weren't going to do extracurricular and their church people. So just church and family time yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, Britney yes. So I don't know I'm really like leaning towards that because baseball has just been so rough and I mean, yeah, I don't know if it's like the combination of covid and just like other outliers me having him at home for school. Did it's been like extra training by it has been, and then it was funny because I posted a picture of Jackson in the Dugout and the amount of MOMS that responded to the picture. My instagram story was like somebody better be helping you. I was dying but somebody wasn't helping you were they know About that I just didn't respond because it was like you know what? If I respond it's going to be negative right? So it's just like you know what all just save it for the podcast and be negative. One time a week. But Yeah Anyway speaking of I want to just inform you. What I look like right now. First of all. Jackson is going back to school so. October thirteenth. which is why like in a couple of days? So he is starting to get excited about it he wasn't excited at first but then when he started realizing that that's really the only option or just beyond educated than he realized. That's when he's going to do so. I've been trying to round up because there's a whole different school supply list for the class that they need than it was for digital. So I've been trying to do all of that. I'm completely exhausted this week. I have no idea why I'm so exhausted. Do you ever just go through those weeks and you're like I really haven't done? Anything like extra than I would do any other week but I'm just really tired. yes. Okay. So that's the moment that I'm still in my robe, my gown and my hair is still on top of my head I did brush my teeth and I did wash my face but that's the extent and I also ate a Burrito bowl. So. Well did you make the Burrito bowl or did you get it from AAA? No actually we'll make the BURRITO bowl. So neither. Oh. Okay. Well, it was homemade is what I meant. He made her will made it. Okay. So I'm looking forward to coming back to Atlanta's so he can make me one. Oh. Yeah. Well, I mean, don't get too excited like it's not that exciting like it's not trip exciting. You know what I mean, right? Okay. Fair. Enough. If I was packing a bag, I would try to pack you a Burrito Bowl for whenever I come to. Philly. But might be kind of like nasty. I eat food left left on the counter for like three days. So it's fine which are so strange to me. Oh. Actually. Will told me this one story. I'm meant to share this couple of weeks ago but he was like watching this one old lady who had kept. A McDonald's hamburger wrapped up in her closet for like years had been in there like, okay. No years and she would like go and look at it all the time and basically like nothing changed. That's actually disturbing. and. Then I'm like okay. Is this lady just crazy and like every week she goes and gets a new burger and puts it in there and then try to make people think it's been there for years but no like she's adamant like has been there for years. That's like The super size me documentary they did that I don't know how long how long they kept the burgers around but it was a long time and they never like. They never went bad. That's is highly concerning. Yeah. Yeah. maybe she'd probably never eat there again, but it probably will tomorrow so. I just Sunday. So like my I've told you guys before my Jim's motto is six one. So you work hard six days a week you eat really well six days a week, and then that one day a week you get a big Mac we. Yeah, and so like really I have these huge plans to eat like shit every Sunday and every Sunday comes and I haven't been eating like shit and I'm like. By the end of the night because I'm like damn I really wanted that for cheese. Mac. From cheesecake factory, which I I did get it this past Sunday but The Mo-. The most thing most thing. The most craved thing is a coke from either McDonald's or Chick-fil-a like I just WanNa coke and I never get you feel me. But that's me every day not. Not. That's us. Sundays that's like just the kind that you drink. Right? We're not talking about powdery residue like this is. Bad. When I said, it just sounded really bad. We're talking about what comes out of A. Carbonated, beverage machines. Yes. Yes. Yes. No literally feel the urge for a coke every single day I I really don't know how to break the habit but part of me thinks that the reason that I don't know how to break the habit is because I don't really care to break the habit. Yeah I mean. I think a little bit comparable to like. Coffee like if you have one coffee a day and you're not really a coffee drinker, but you'll drink like one soda a day I mean I don't know about the sugar when I mean as far as like the addiction of like people wanting their coffee or their coke is like. Maybe it's the Caffeine Lemme tell you. So we'll actually was one of these people. All through college like since I've known him he was like an avid Dr Pepper drinker like anywhere we went he got Dr Pepper. He would drink can dr peppers like probably. I would venture out to say like six a day. Oh Wow excessive, right but I haven't. I haven't seen that drink Dr Pepper like at least we've been in this house and that's been like five years. So I don't think he just had one since then but he used to drink a lot but then it was so weird like when he started cutting that habit then he started drinking coffee in the morning and I'm like, okay I just don't understand like I. Feel like a lot of people break a habit, but then create a new one right Oh one, hundred, percent one, hundred percent. But I also think that that happens in relationships like in it's like you go from toxic toxic or you just don't break patterns what I'm saying, oh. Yeah. I've definitely been guilty of that. It's apple Kabul, and all areas of life is basically what I'm trying to say. Okay you guys. I want to take a break really quickly to talk about a product that we use in love. You guys know that I won't advertise anything I don't actually use. So this one is called amber wave. So m-wave is the first bracelet that helps you feel colder or warmer at the press of a button and super cool. It was featured on Good Morning America and it's One of those things where you can use it to adjust your own temperature in certain places like whether it's the office or home. 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She went to Provo Canyon School, Where Parasol Yes. So I was just sell it this morning I didn't get through all twenty three minutes of it, but the part that I had gotten to is just basically like. Her confirming the same things that Rachel Ampere said in her dog and then it was weird I don't know if Kat Von D. had said something about a Rachel or something like that but. There was messages and like tags on the instagram page that was saying, was she looking for like your friend Rachel? So. It was weird I. Need to do some investigating I need to do some investigating as well. I was like what the heck like what Rachel issue looking for by yeah, it's so. Insane to me and I didn't get to talk about this because obviously I wasn't on the episode but I did watch it the same week that episode released. and. ARGEST can relate to the rocky memory in. So many ways just because I have a brother who has been through like. Boarding schools and all kinds of things and I just I don't know really stories like he's never told many stories of things really that happened but I, just know that A lot of times when kids are sent off at such young ages like developmental ages I have read things that say that Because, they're at an age there. What is it called kill like impersonal? personable. It's like where people can am. Like imperative it's like where people can imprint on you in ways that could mold you're thinking future yours your future and I feel like. When. I was watching the documentary and then I was listening to Rachel it made me think like A lot of these kids and ways could have been brainwashed and. Negative ways like not positive ways but. Ways to get them to behave that probably wasn't the right way of handling the situation you know what I mean, right? Right? Yeah. Like instead of doing it through like. A therapy way to get to the root the problem of like why they were acting this way. It's almost like you know you're gonNA. Be a military person when you're fifteen or sixteen years old and you're going to. Do, everything we say, and I feel like that just creates a bigger issue with defiance. Agree. When somebody tells you what to do over and over and over and over again? It's like, yeah, you're going to. Like. Kat. Von D.. was saying she wanted to beat the system right? Because they told her she was going to be and therefore. As little as three weeks but as Max of whatever time. So. It's like I think mentally a lot of these kids that go to schools like this. They're smart enough to know how to beat the system you know, and so they do what they have to to be able to get Al. but then when they get out what's happened to them while they're in is irreparable. Yeah I mean it's it's. It's just like a lot of people who go to prison when they're adults, you know like. They're not. They're not being educated and given the proper tools to be successful outside of those walls or they rebel because you know what I mean. So I feel like. Most of the time, it's not really helping it's creating more damage and more resentment and more I mean when you're not loved the way that you should be loved I think that you act out and you I mean look at the bullies that are in school every day you know most of them have really fucked up home lives and they really just need to be loved you know what I mean. So I feel like. There's just. It's just sad and I'm actually honestly shocked because I guess my is just like weren't open was they were not open to things like this and so hearing it from in Kat Von D. and I knew Rachel story but I just that was the only time I've ever heard something like that. You know what I mean I didn't know that this was happening. So frequently and we don't even know about it like people aren't GonNa just openly tell you that they went to this these kinds of schools and then on the other hand I think just like a different perspective I think a lot of times when. Parents have the funds to be able to send their kids to a school like the you know. I'M NOT GONNA call it a school because I don't think it's a school. It's basically like an institution to send them to a place like this. Then it's like, okay we're GONNA send them there to fix their problems with professionals or whatever. But then they come back home. The parents haven't really learned how to deal with the problems right so it's like this reoccurring cycle that I think would have to be happening and then the child has been damaged in such a way because then there's going to be abandonment issues I mean, imagine being at home laying in your bed fifteen or sixteen years old. And someone coming in the middle of the night like that and Telling you basically, if you don't get up voluntarily go, they're going to handcuff you enforce you to go. That's terrifying. That would. That would scare any normal. Any adult let alone a child. So my whole thought process with this is okay. From that point, there's a trust issue there between the kids and the parents because the parents are basically set them up and I do know in some situations that there are children with such extreme issues that they would kind of have to blindside them. But just the way that it all plays out to me is just a traumatic experience and I just don't believe in stuff like that. So I don't I don't WanNa like I mean obviously I've said before Oh Jackson you're going to boys farm or whatever but he thinks that is literally like a camp where boys live and he's going to have to work do chores. Right and that's what I told Rachel before because I never really put two and two together like I I had told Rachel on the podcast. I've threatened to send my boys boarding school not knowing what that actually looks like and so. You can hear Lux screaming down my hallway because him in Lincoln are fighting right now. So brothers, Simon example of when I would typically say that you're going to go to boarding school I guess is not an appropriate threat. I need to work on this. Yeah. Like what I mean. You go up to lock and you're like, okay you're going to boarding school and he's like I don't even know what I don't even know what that is a tiny terror. Funny Senate if I all the time in. Lincoln. Know Him in Lincoln are so so so close but Lincoln doesn't put up with his shit. So you know when when Lincoln tells lex no, he has a whole mental breakdown my gosh, and so Isaac has a pacifier. Let Flex. Do whatever. Is is so nice to to look all the time like there's no like he's. Very nurturing just like, Isaac. GonNa walk all over you. Yeah, and then he just lets it happen I feel like. That was that was me with younger siblings just kind of like Okay. I'm just going to let you do whatever and then take the heat for it. You know it's it's fine. It's fine it. I mean I don't know I don't know because I never had siblings so I don't know what's fine. What's not fine I just sometimes I let them. You know work it out on their own, and sometimes I'm like I got to intervene here. There's always going to be a toddler right You probably have one. You don't have to say like games, but there's going to be a toddler there's going to be protector. There's going to be the baby which. You know what's interesting to me I feel like. Creed. I feel like locks is still going to think he's the baby. Creed is going to be fine being the baby. No, I feel like Lux is going to still think he's the baby even though creed as the baby. Yes. I agree with you. I still feel like Lexus GonNa have that personality of youngest child. Yes I I feel that especially this morning when I felt like there was so much chaos going on I got the kids ready like doing their school stuff and then locks was wanting to me like cuddled and just like on and like totally totally fine with it. But that was my thought I was like he's always going to be. We're going to have this relationship like this is how it's going to be. He's so funny to me like his personality cracks me up and he like he thinks and also runs the show like. He does what he wants and I like it and give it. Yeah. He's He doesn't give any fox. I will tell you that right now. I like. Oh and completely other news. I got a message this morning. And it says keep an eye on the news. The previous case of the missing child found in SMYRNA has been solved by the FBI, arrests have been made and will be announced shortly the little girl's name is Emma. Her mother and her husband lived about a half mile from the field brandon and K B Heiss. They since moved to Pennsylvania the FBI cracked this case. Thank. God. was beautiful little girl that suppled suffered horrible abuse. She had three siblings which are in state custody I. Know The story rocked to the core as well as most of us around here. Maybe you can say some kind words once everything is released in remembrance of her so. What the hell this is the one from SMYRNA. Yeah. The Yeah. The one that was my it's actually my kids go to the school district. So I actually my friend sent me the case this morning I didn't know that they named the girl that article that I have they don't they didn't name her in the article I. Don't know where this person go all of this information not gonNa say this person's name on here that sent the message but this one says this article that I was sent this morning by my friends says. The thirteen, the remains of an unidentified deceased child were located near the last field in Smyrna Kent County, Delaware but it doesn't and it just says police say she was Caucasian or Hispanic likely between the ages of two and five. It doesn't say on here who it was at all. So I I didn't know that and that's So frigging horrible and I wonder what happened to the other kids in like can I foster them or like how do I? What do I even do? Isn't that so horrible like I? Don't even know but I am so interested to see. What comes of it and what actually happened because I just don't understand. How the child ended up. where she was and then But she's from Pennsylvania. I think they moved to Pennsylvania okay. Okay. So I just the whole story to me just doesn't add up or make subtle. So I can't wait to hear more info. 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And again, this is coming from third party that these articles were written about because he can't speak to the media I guess but. Why said that speaks the media I'm not sure but is that he was shaken and? Disturbed by the documentary. It's like, okay. So you were disturbed by the documentary at Oh and disturbed by the fact that the text messages were released and the documentary it's like, okay we'll. So you weren't disturbed when you sent them, you're not disturbed when you killed them and you. Weren't disturbed when you clearly weren't disturbed whenever you were getting arrested or investigated so. The fact that you're only disturbed because now, everybody that watches Netflix's that watches documentaries and true crime now knows everything Is Insane to me. I want to know is he being paid for the things that are being done him the interviews, the requests documentaries the book like is he being paid for these things because I don't know that. He deserves the payments with Casey Anthony. Yeah because she was acquitted right. I heard did I. Tell You about the rumors I heard about her being pregnant with or something I don't know if we talked about on the podcast, but I feel like you told me about that and she was going to do a show or something. Yeah it was pretty sure that I don't know if that's true or not. But I did hear that. But I'm just curious to know Chris Watson I mean this is getting such and like the other thing too that I was curious about when I was thinking about the Chris Watts stuff is like. How does how? Does the general public decide which cases are interesting enough to do this many like. Things on it between interviews, Docu series documentaries, and books like who decides that I feel like. There are so many cases that don't get this type of media coverage. So why this one when I mean I've heard of worse I've seen worse not that sounds horrible. Like. More. On the idea channel they they have. Family members that kill their entire families as well, and they don't get this type of media coverage as I guess what I'm trying to say. I don't know You know unfortunately in the entertainment business a lot of it has to do with ratings. So I just wonder if it's based off of you know numbers of people tuned in numbers of people following it numbers of people talking about it on social media groups on facebook like I would think. That the combination of all of that the. The public's interest in it would definitely have. An effect on that I would think however. I did want to touch on the fact that. I feel like they missed an entire part of the documentary in the case just in general in regards to the girlfriend Nicole because I definitely think that she had way more to do with a new way more than she let on and the fact that she had deleted text messages, phone numbers, photos, all of those. Any of that. is in major red flag to me. The fact that she claimed that she didn't know the wife's name, but it's like comma along you're dating somebody like she was a co worker of his right. You're dating somebody that you know is married and has sold you this story that he was going to get divorced and he's going to. Break it off with her and whatever. As if female I find it to be very. Interesting to me that she wouldn't have had an interest to investigate on social media like facebook. Oh, one, hundred percent I don't. Know I don't know girl who's going to be in a relationship with someone. In another relationship or marriage and not like. Right I yeah. I mean not for nothing but like I've had conversations even with like my ex's like I knew who they dated before me I mean I don't know that I like. Like stock them or anything but like I knew of them like what the situation was and if I felt uneasy about it, obviously I'm going to look. While I will know who your extended cousins are. Because I'm going to click on like all your mutual friends and find out. All of the things like when I go to somebody's profile and it okay. I don't know if anybody has seen this before but if you go on facebook and you try to like. Around and you go to somebody's profile and it's like you look at mutual friends or whatever I feel like that person shady if. You can't see their mutual friends or their friends. Right you know what I mean like setting or something on there right that's definitely shady for sure. So shady but then so I like That in itself just from. The viewpoint of another woman the fact that you know that he is married, you know that he has children. But yet, you're not GONNA do any type of amvest I call bullshit on that I, call bullshit I agree and then. You know people were writing in saying that. There was a light on and the truck and the security camera. Like the the home security whatever that. They got the footage of that. There was a light on that was in the truck. And they why would there be a light on in the truck if nobody in the PAT on the passenger side if nobody was in it so you know, of course, here's all these conspiracy theorists that are going out and saying all these different things about how the girlfriend was involved and so on and so forth. But it's just. To me. I definitely think that there was way more involvement than what she's ever let on and then I also found a you going down complete rabbit hole found a youtube of. I think it was like a two hour recording. I didn't get to listen to all of it but just like her demeanor and. Responses to the officers was. The emotion was just off to me like the way that she was answering questions and saying. When they asked her to confirm Chris's number, she was like all I know is it's nine zero, one number and he was like, can you tell me what it is and she said I deleted at all like I deleted his. Number and everything and my phone and. I just think that that's very strange like why would you just go through and start deleting everything out of your phone? I mean just to play devil's advocate a little bit. Because I didn't I wasn't aware of details I when I watch it, I'll give you my like actual thoughts but just from hearing it from you is like And I'm I don't know why the Scott. Peterson. Case kind of ring a bell with well as. Lease, but was his mistress's name. It was what was her name Let me think it was. I don't remember I can't remember what her legs one of those things where it's like I don't want to be associated at all like I can't believe this happened to me but then all was anger. Yes it was amber amber fries or freeze or. one of those situations where it's like. I don't want to be associated. But then on the other hand, you look at like the Scott Peterson trial and amber was like wanting to be more helpful and give as much information as she knew because she wasn't involved. So yeah, I mean I guess that is very The girlfriend with this Chris Situation is is not okay that's. I'm trying to think of myself in that situation which I hope I'm in. I WOULD WANNA give up all the information. Here's my phone take it. I want nothing to do with this. You know what I mean like I have nothing to do with this. So that's sketchiest fuck it. So sketchy and then I. saw this one thing on facebook that says, I watched criminal confessions of Chris. Watts, and I truly believe that the only reason Chris pled guilty so fast so that Nicole was not involved charge and helping him dispose of the bodies after he told his story and the locations of where they were. He was so stern and admitting that he did kill his wife. But when it came to his kids, he did not my. He said I did not kill my babies as he pointed down to the table going into defense mode. What was the extra light on the truck and the passenger side while Chris was loading the bodies why did Nicole delete text messages and photos? Why did she research can cops trace phone calls and text messages? What did Nicole have to hide we all know Nicole wanted her own family not what Chris already had we known a coal was looking up wedding dresses already Nicole one what Chris already had the video posted. In the comments shows the detective explaining after Chris. Watts pled guilty to their investigation and their investigation is over and she feels the investigation was not over I believe Chris pled guilty. So Nicole didn't go down with him. What are your thoughts? If Ninety eight percent of the world beliefs Nicole had a part in the murder of the of the watts widened Nicole Nicole free and why the detectives not further investigate so I don't S- insane I mean they're all very valid points I. Don't disagree I but I like I just can't for me I don't understand how you could want something so bad. But then go back to that one. Ship go back to that one case that we covered. I don't know if. I remember it was where the woman. was at the grocery store last seen with her daughter and then the man killed at her place. But then the girlfriend cleaned up, I can't remember what the case was. You remember that no, I don't remember. Well, we covered it on the podcast and I forget what the names where I'm sure you guys listening their true krantz will remember but the girlfriend help assisted in the cleanup. I. Don't understand that I don't understand how like an I really really work hard to put myself in other people's shoes sometimes like I really do I can't understand wanting to be with someone that bad that I would be willing and okay and helping them cover up murders I would never. Never, never never be able to be in that situation like you couldn't. If you are with somebody else I'm an I know about it. I'm gonNA leave you alone. Furthermore if you're married to somebody else and you have a family with somebody else until I have confirmation that you're not. I'm not going to be with you like I feel like her knowing, but still pursuing it and still. Shows something wrong right there because she knows that he had another family and she claims that she didn't know that. They were pregnant which to me again, I call bullshit because it's like you're not looking online to try to find out like what you're man is doing that you're with a married man you're not looking online to see what videos and photos are posted with his family come on. Yeah. I don't buy that at all I really don't. Like come on But yeah, I watched that over the weekend and was just completely. And totally disturbed like I don't know how. You can't. We've talked about this before too. You can't get in the mind of somebody that. Would do something like this because I would never be able to do something like this. I truly do feel that he killed. Shannon and her sleep. And then he put her body in his truck, the girls road alive sue wear he put her body and then he killed them and I had to ride with their mother dead in the floorboard like that's a sick fucker. That's a sick fucker. That's. All of it is sick I. Don't I just I can't wrap myself like my head around. The idea of. Like. These people are capable of thinking about killing someone how are they not capable of just like go leaving them or like asking for help like going to see. Going to a doctor and being like I'm having these thoughts I need help like you have to know that one you're not GonNa get away with away with it to you're never gonNA be. Able to have you can't like you already had two kids and a wife and she was pregnant. So turn around and then go try to recreate this with I mean and the other woman Nicole how dare her like she wants what he she doesn't want what he already has, but she's willing to. Those kids were half of him. Wanting to be with him that bad. Then you need to accept the children to well, that's the thing and then. What a Weirdo like, what a fucking Weirdo total fucking Weirdo and then. I'm sitting back the whole time thinking none of this commonsense wise make sense like if you wanna be with someone else so bad probably killing three other human beings. Definitely not the way to secure that right like at all. You're. GonNa get caught. And to these people really think that they're not gonNA get caught. That's the crazy thing. He did he deny I? I never thought about the fact that maybe he would try to cover Nicole I thought he denied it at first and said that they were missing and she never came home or something he did. But then once basically he took the polygraph and then the polygraph person aren't what she was called but basically came in and was like you failed the polygraph like I told you when you came in here one of us knows the truth right now before we leave this room, both of us will know the truth and once he started kind of having to. Tell on himself and his dad came in the room antique confessed to his dad. But he told his dad that Shannon had harmed the girls and it was like this whole thing So. You know. I believe that he said that he killed Shannon but he killed her because she killed the girls. And then there was the whole conspiracy. Theorists things about how there was some type of investigation with Shannon and she wasn't allowed with girls by herself for like nineteen months or something like that. So I need to do some investigating on that. I don't know if any of that is true. Whatsoever just repeating what people have sent me a message is Very strange because she she left with them to go to the airport and to go out of town to be with her parents for. Weeks. So she wasn't allowed with him by herself. Why? Why did she leave the home with them to go to the airport just doesn't make sense to me. I don't know it just. It's all fucking saying, I just couldn't imagine like wanting to be with someone and then just killing off my family and being like, Yep this is GonNa make sure that like I don't have to deal with anything. That's so weird like it's just like a weird fucking energy. Weird. fucking energy I don't understand. All right guys we're GONNA, take a quick break to talk about one of our partners better help I know that we have share them on the podcast many times before. But for those of you who have missed it, I'M GONNA. 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So I love that movie and you probably haven't watched it but there's a place called whistle stop cafe and it's like this old little like shock cafe thing on the side of the road. And we'll kept telling me this place that we went to is called the whistle stop cafe. So I never really thought anything else of it, and so I'd gone and gotten affiliate cheesecake from there and told like a couple of people if they ever want a good cheese steak to go to the whistle stop cafe well, first of all have fucking place as even exists like it's called something else will told me there was called whistle-stop because he knows that I love Fried Green Tomatoes. Movie and he knows that I would want to eat at the frigging whistle-stop cafe made up the whole name I've been telling people all over town to go to whistle stop cafe to get a philly cheese steak and it doesn't even fucking exist so. Yeah closed twenty minutes before I wanted the cheese steak. But then it made me think of all the messages that I've gotten over the past week telling me that Gino's is a scam. It's not a scam PAT's, and Gino's are both. They're very touristy places to go to get a cheese steak. That's what it is. It's like. People were telling me that you know they met my friend message meal was like you're you're doing it wrong and I was like, no I'm not doing it wrong like I'm from the area I'm familiar with it PAT's and Gino's. It's a touristy place to go because they've been on. TV. But? Yeah. I mean obviously, you go to like A. Hole in the wall for cheese steaks obviously. But. Will maybe we'll go to a couple of places and you can just give a review on your favorite one. Should we do like a whole video torture? Yes. like a cheese chase tour tour. Should, wake imagine yes s going in and out of the places they would probably love that that's like Like doing. What is it in and out? Burger and like Carl's junior. Whoever they compared to win like see which one do you like better? It's like that like we should do that for cheese steaks we definitely should but people were like it's a tourist trap and it is that's what it is. That's what I mean. And no I think it was like a hole in the wall place and it was like I'm GonNa go in here and it might look like it has rats but it has a really good cheesecakes. Yeah. So that's not the move. This is a tourist place. There's no rats why? No there's not rats I'm just saying I was thinking it being like a CD place like. A lot of places that have like really good food aren't the most like like a hole in the wall desirable looking right you know I was thinking it was going to be like one of those and like everybody knew that Pat's and Gino's was a really good cheese steak and now kind of like. Well, if I one of these hole in the wall place is that these people are talking about somebody said Steph's was good or something like that. There was a bunch of others I can. I can take you to like a couple of places that are like truly hole in the wall Ones but I definitely still think that you should try either Patrick Gino's and they're right across the street from each other like eating our way through Philly Dose Andrews. Yeah. That was one of the ones that was a recommendation. Yes. So that's A good one. But how are we going to eat our way through Philly? If you're not gonNA eat the cheese steaks I mean, I'll eat it. I don't hate them I'm just like they're not my favorite like I don't love them one time. I saw somebody ordering a cheese steak and they were like. Basically. Taking everything off of it but the me and it's like, okay, that's just like a meat CEO inch. That's disgusting. It's like what the fuck are you doing? Like I have no idea like they took onions off does all cheese steaks come with onions and peppers and like or are there different kinds at the chiefs play the cheese steak places in Philly or like wherever you got them around here you just say like you want peppers and onions and then you can pick what type of cheese you want cheese whiz American cheese like whatever cheese you want catch Mayo like you tell them what you want and they put it on it. Oh my gosh that sounds so delicious. I'm so excited like I. I don't have to be on Sunday though because that's the only dam allowed to eat shit. Okay. Fine we'll do. We'll eat our way through philly on Sunday before. I, leave. That's good. News on the way home totally you'll be like nice and like. Belly hungover hung over. It'll be like Thanksgiving but cheese steaks. Cheese steaks. Thanksgiving. Yeah. Oh. We got a ton of messages that I can't share all of them because some of them are just like we can't read it on the podcasts. Oh. Shit about what? About people walking and catching their parents having sex. Oh thank God because I really was scared like I was scared to tell my stories like I was. An people texted me about it and I was like, what like? It's true. It fucking happens to everyone get it where you can. Honestly, I think we should make a shirt that says, get it where you can because you know what I knew I wasn't the only one I'm just very afraid to talk about it because you know people hate me or whatever, and they might call CPS or something I don't fucking know. So I was terrified talk about it but that makes me happy that people other people have experienced the same trauma. It's so funny. So one person said, here's my scarred for life. Story. Walking. US Oh I thought I thought it was a parent I was about to say like I'm more scarred than I. Think my kids were you know what? I mean oh for sure I. Know this is like a person messaging about walking on their parents. So okay says, here's my scarred for life story walking on my parents having sex. I was twelve issue and my parents going through a horrible divorce they hated each other. So when I heard screams coming from the bedroom, I felt like I needed a bus in and rescue her I'm forty four now and I can still see them locked the doors people on another. No, I'm pretty sure a boyfriend of my daughter's hurt US having sex at two am when he was leaving her house but hell, that's what you get when you say so late. Oh. Shit I. See I didn't even think about I mean I've definitely walked in on my mom having text. So that's a terrifying wait you have I never. When I was a kid Oh. My God yes and I the one the time when I that I can think of when I was really young like seven. I wasn't really traumatized because I didn't know what was going on. So like I really didn't give a fuck. Now looking back I'm like, wow, that's horrifying and then one that released guard means one when I was like twelve leg I was older. So I knew what was happening and I was just so grossed out but. So. Yeah. I think the older you get. Explain it you just bust in the door no I they must have not known that I was like home or something and the door was open and I was walking to my room. So I like saw and heard it and I was like Oh my God this is disgusting and then I just never saw. I never saw actually I might have said something to my mom might have been like I heard you and then she was probably traumatized because she didn't know but yeah, no, actually I remember what it was. Okay. So this was when I was in eighth grade. So how old are you an eighth grade twelve? Yeah thank. You're like twelve. Okay I it's coming back to me now. So we lived in town houses that were like connected to the next door. They're connected. So I was having a sleepover next door and I think I came back to get my stuff like I wanted to get my stuff to have the sleepover and so it must have not been. It must have been either like super early in the morning or like super like maybe like at night I don't know but I heard it and I saw and I was. Horrified. So yeah. That was my story when I was older that's so I I don't have one. You don't. I, I. Don't I guess my parents were just very safe or. Here. I am airing my mom out like, oh no, I've never seen my parents sex I'd never heard. It never happens. Telling you the truth it really it really happened. It really hasn't happened that I know why? No like I don't have an experience like that. I mean, I wish I could share one to be like honestly you don't because it's really just not. It's not a fun time. That's so right. Okay. So this one person said, okay, girls let me just tell you one afternoon the kids were busy. So my husband and I snuck off our room, the door was shut and locked, and the next thing we knew. We have both of our kids knocking on the door asking what we were doing. My husband yells folding laundry they seem to have walked away. So we went about our business and we hear the door slam the sun room off the back of our house. We had just bought this house in the blinds in our room were broken and didn't close all the way we have land behind us. So we didn't care that is until we realized the kids were coming to look through our window. No. This is the part where I laugh so hard. Husband flat. Pancake while you. While he's. Off, the bed I was too busy laughing so hard that I couldn't breathe to move. So he pulls me down by feet just in time for our kids to see both our heads peaking over by. Bad while we were dying laughing she said. Our kids were asking the rest of the day. What was so about folding laundry. Needless to say we got new blinds that week. I don't blame them Oh my kids are so they they know what they're doing I swear. Leave. Your folding laundry. They know what's up they know that? They know when you're lying. And you're trying to get them to leave they. CanNot I was literally laugh some of these messages made me laugh so hard and I was like, are you fucking kidding me like if that ever happened I am not even kidding I would run away. Yeah. It's truly traumatizing I. Didn't laugh because I was just like I mean the first time I did because I was like, wow. Okay. That was I mean. No book with the second time I was like what the fuck you know first of all, if that happened I would run away. So nobody would have to worry about me having sex again. I would be so concerned and then so many people messaging about how we are not alone with our kids just being. Yeah I'm sometimes I'm just like. whose. Kids are you go get your mom? Yeah. Go find her because it's It's not me I don't know who your mom is like I told Jackson the other day because I don't know if your kids do this. Every time. If we're in the car, if we're at home, he'll get to talking and it's like he gets a talking. So fast I think his mind is just like going one hundred miles a minute and every couple seconds is like mom. Mom. Mom. I told him. I. Was like I've officially changed the name. It's no longer mom anymore. No, it's asshole and you're not allowed to say yes. It he's like what? What is your name and it's like, I can't tell you my name because if I tell you my name defeats the purpose, right? It's so funny that you said that about asshole though because. We were the park yesterday. This is no lie. Today, we were walking and Jackson ones like scooting along his scooter and for whatever reason Jackson. Will like to tell on each other to me. And I? Don't understand what's going on like I'm obviously also raising a teenager but. Basically. Jackson was telling me something that will did, and then we'll was like, well, if you tell her that I, did that I'm GonNa Taylor thing that you did and I said Okay I off extortionist like we. Are, not raising people like this in this house if you tell me something that he did and then you tell me something that he did I'm probably not going to care because you guys were trying to use it as leverage over each other and I'm just not gonNA. CARE and. So Jackson was like, well, he's been calling me a cuss word and I'm like what what, and he's like he's been calling me a cuss word and will was like, yeah, I did. And I was like. Oh what have you been calling him? You know like Jeez. So Jackson goes called him an Asshole yes. I've done that too like I'm like you're being an asshole like you little asshole and Jackson's like you should not say that to kids. So then we just coupon and you know I'm kind of like just take him both sides and I'm literally in the middle of them they're screaming carrying on. And I'm like, okay, we all let me know when you're done because I tune you out about five minutes ago and Jackson goes well, he he's calling me an asshole. He was true. He knows he's not allowed to say like bad words. So he caught himself and then he immediately started crying because he knew he was gonNA be in trouble for saying the word. And it was just so funny to me how As adult, I don't know when you just start. You're allowed to say those words, but then it's just like becomes part of your daily routine, like Asshole, faulk like. When does that become a part of your routine? I feel like and it's normal. Like fresh out of high school. So. You don't say it when you're I definitely was cussing in high school but not to my parents. I definitely was cussing my parent. Jewish. I. I definitely was what were you saying to Susie? Like I would be like I would say shit like I wouldn't like not like a very bad words at her no, like I would just be like you know. My Shit or or. My. He'll fuck really you said I might have said fall I also. I mean I also like bought my mom and high school so like I don't think. Yeah, it wasn't a good time at all. I would've been actually one time. Well, this is let me not change the subject to something so like. Horrible. I won't I won't go there. No, we can. If you want to I mean it's probably. All I was GONNA say was like, I remember like it kind of like goes full circle for the episode right like I one time my mom this fought in in high school and it was just like not a good time and I remember I. Don't know if it was the same time or it was like a different day. But I remember kind of like what Rachel said like feeling like you're being abducted in the middle of the night I had police officers come. I had locked my bedroom door. Oh God I went to sleep and I was just newly pregnant with Isaac. And I went to sleep must have been like maybe eleven or twelve, and I woke up to not only was my lock picked and or broken I don't fucking know. Police officers were taking me out of my bed by arresting you. Know I mean, I, don't I don't know I don't think they put me in handcuffs I don't remember if they put me in handcuffs or not but I remember them removing me and like I was in a holding cell for like the night my mom was so intoxicated it wasn't even funny. So I don't even remember like. It was just like a weird. Did they do anything to her? No and that was the crazy part was like I don't. It was weird like I don't remember why that's why I don't know if it was two different memories that are like Kinda feel like they were together don't know if the fistfight was the same day as that happened. But so when Rachel was telling her story about being abducted in the middle of the night, I mean I was only held overnight and my friend's mom came and picked me up the next morning. I. Don't even. Like I can't imagine like what Paris and Rachel and all them went through. So like the episode chronic came full circle because I don't know what that would be like to be in that situation for like eleven months twelve months you know what I mean so. Insane. Whole hold on Isaacs Isaacs asking me about something hold on one second. You're line. Go get the computer right now. He's trying to get out of his zoom at one third. With who? Since. You're on the PODCAST. Now you have to come introduce yourself hurry up. High Isaac. Is. Very. High guys doing. Here come blocks he skipping class on zoom. Say Hi my name's Lux. I'm lucky. I'm sorry. He's he's saying he doesn't have zoom, but I don't. Go Get me your chromebook. Ten minutes he's basically. Nuggets Burn. Don't. Get out you know he's not ten minutes lively. Me Alone was that Lincoln Chicken Nuggets were burn up. I didn't even make him chicken nuggets. Did he put them in there? Himself is that house on fire do you hear lugs? He busted in my room and said Chicken Nugget He's house on fire. I don't know what's going on in this House Oh. My Gosh. How do you have so many children like all that going on that stresses meow my God. I didn't even know all of them are going to come in here. I'm so sorry. Get Out. Wine trying to skip school you've guy wind burning up chicken nuggets. And then you've got we can. See this picture of looks hold on a Lux. We're GONNA call logs repeat because he seems like he's just repeating what Lincoln saying well, he has. Toy. Story. Pajamas on with olive colored Vans Isaac Sweatshirt and Isaacs glasses on right now, and he just busted in my room. So he looks like me, he looks a hot asked. Is. What he looks right now. You're eating what? My Burger. Don't because it might have raw meat. Honestly, just don't do that. Okay. just. Thing is he loves to take showers now because he wants his hair to be like Aquaman so he wanted to be wet. So it's Like no, it's not wet right now. Either bit immediately. You WanNa put it. What ask Lux can he see out of those watts? From UC, out of those glasses. You can ask him, it makes fuzzy. Doesn't make it fuzzy for you. Know. We need to have your eyes checked baby. Kid. Does get his hair wet. You're right and I finished my podcast is looks, Hey, lugs are you pooping on the potty? He is pooping on the POTTY, right? Oh my gosh. I send you a present. She says her new president. Are. You telling the truth or you really poop on the potty? Center. Did you just say to me? I've sent an ever-present these really prove it on the potty. He is I mean, he goes a couple of days. He'll go poop on the potty and then like maybe he'll have an accident for a day or two but the today I put him on the potty even though he didn't tell me he had to go and he went. So this is different than any other way that I've potty trained before and. He knows what he needs to do, but he just doesn't WanNa stop playing since the kids are home you know what I mean. So can you tell me what it's like having a child that needs to yoder because you're entering the B. O. Phase and then one that needs to sit on the potty. was is that life like You know what it's? It's it's very stinky. Yes it's it's I. Constantly Reminding Isaac Deodorant Cologne Deodorant Cologne Deodorant Cologne, and then naturally Lincoln wants to wear it just because Isaac is and then I got lux over here I. Mean it's not even just pooping on the body the other day an. Arrest me if you want but I had to pull over on the side of the road three times in one trip because LUXA DP and I was I, didn't want him to have an accident and we're potty training. So he had to like I had to let him out to P, and there was nowhere to pull over so like we just. Pulled over what you do this anyway open the door and just let me out the door why get out with him and let him and I'm probably GonNa go to jail for that but it's fine I mean I'm just GonNa, explain that potty training comes over every everything yeah. Like there's just some things that you can't I've done that before where you're like honor road obviously, you're not going anywhere. There's nowhere really to go in to go right and I don't know if are the same as boys. I can only only have experience with the boy, but it's like when they've gotta go gotta go because they wait until the last minute to tell you. Yeah. Well, of course I told, can you just hold it and he's like I gotta go I gotta go. All right. Well, we'll go. We'll just pull right now. So so we pulled over three times on the side of one trip. Yeah. I'm not even exaggerating wow, like I'm proud of you for telling me but also we're going to work on the holding skills because I promise you. It was like a thirty minute drive like it was. Not, even that long. So well, what I did with Jackson we will we were going places when he was potty training, obviously put a pull up on him just in the event that he would have an accident. Yeah. So it's not like all over a seat and stuff, but I would make sure which it's a lot easier coming from somebody that has one child and a super plan because I would always like make him go to the bathroom before we left and. Then, I wouldn't give him anything to drink in the car, and then normally he could make it to wherever we were going. So well, that makes sense. Maybe if he's having a drink where sippy cup in the car maybe just don't give it to them until you get where you're going that's a good idea. That's actually really good idea that he's not gonNA, have to go. Can we please put on a shirt mom with a super plan to because that's amazing. Yes, we. We definitely can. That's that MOM super plan and then I don't remember the other one. I GONNA. See. Am I going to see your kids whenever I no, no, no Lindsey. You know what? I'm looking forward to the trip because I want to I. Plan on sleeping for at least six hours straight and having. You think that's funny. And having no interruptions from little humans. So now you're not going to see them. We're not going to see these minions at all. That's devastating but also, no, I understand. I understand but I'm slightly I'm slightly so bad. Yeah I know I am well. So what do you have going on for that week? Are you filming? Yes, we're filming I was supposed to film today but I am actually going to go to the gym at four o'clock instead and they have not gotten clearance to film at the gym or we pushed filming told tomorrow or to get everything done and then. That's I have like a couple of appointments through for the rest of the week. What are you? What are you doing the rest of the week? Well, my whole week just got screwed up. Somebody that has been assisting me on some projects and stuff. Possibly has corona virus, which I will say haven't seen this person cents like before my birthday. So that's been like weeks what three weeks or something like that. So definitely don't have any contact or anything like that that I have to worry about but obviously, it messed up my whole schedule this week. So then I had to rearrange stuff. So you know how that goes like when one thing goes awry then it's like you've got to rearrange everything. I hate when I hate when that happened to I double booked myself today because I told my coach that I would be at the gym at twelve and then I realized Oh. Lux. You can't put your shoes on. I'm going to help you a soon as I'm done. Here, my my three year old really nice. Isn't it? Yeah. It's really nice. I told I miss it. Going to be at the gym today at twelve, and then I was like, no, I have two podcasts. I'm going GONNA go at four. But Yeah I totally hear you I don't even. I don't know how we're GONNA, get through the rest of online school because is it goes back at the end of the month only two days a week so I don't. That's a no for me. We don't have a choice that's our only option. If it's hybrid, it's only two days a week. So it's that's all I have I don't I don't get the option to send them back fulltime. That's literally so insane, Oh my God well anyway I know that you've got to go and put on shoes that don't even bit. I'M GONNA. Let you go but we're understanding yet. 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WWHL @ Home: Paris Hilton & Jenna Bush Hager

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

24:43 min | 4 months ago

WWHL @ Home: Paris Hilton & Jenna Bush Hager

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast edition of Watch. What happens live with me Andy Cohen. She's more pop than Soda and she co host today with Hoda. It's what I've at home with Paris Hilton Jenna Bush Hager now. EMC. Hey everybody. Welcome to watch what live at home I'm your host Andy Cohen with two guests who spent their lives in the spotlight. While the rest of us are still figuring out how to set up our rain lights. My first guest has taken on just about every title in pop culture actress Singer in Dj to name a few but I'll add one more since kyle and Kim or her aunt's. She's a real house niece of beverly. Hills. Her new documentary this is Paris streaming on her youtube channel now it's Paris. Hilton. They barris. Allow. Great to see you and my next guest is a former first daughter. Now Co host today's fourth hour her book everything beautiful in its time seasons of love and losses available. Now it's Jenna Bush Hager Jenna Hi I like how you talk in rhyme it sounds very much at home here at today show you know. Yes that is very true. Now, do the two of you know each other of you ever met. We have actually didn't. Ya and she was just on our show which was so awesome and I got embarrassed I don't know if you know this but I've also met your boyfriend at a conference. Any emailed me afterwards and was like she thought y'all were so awesome. You know thin this was when we could be in real life you know. So she came in to our studio about a year ago and he wrote me and said you were so sweet to my girlfriend and I was like wait who is your girlfriend and I realized it was you I think it's a great match. Thank you. I'm so happy. So perfect for me in every way, he's so smart and great, and so are you. So it seems like a good combination. Thank. Love it. Now, my guest don't rest on their laurels, but they do sit on branches of prominent family trees. So Paris and John I want to dig into the dirt about growing up in your respective families with Hilton, Bush, League of their own. Okay. Was the most famous person who came to your house over the holidays when you were growing up Paris. A lot of people that Michael, Jackson and Paula, Abdul. Some of my favorites. Okay, that's that's a winner. What about you Janna. I shouldn't go second 'cause like Condoleeza. Rice she's. She's awesome but you know Paula Abdul. Well or you could say your GRANDPA who was also. Which? I love. But we never thought of that. You know. But yes, of course. Yeah. Paris? Did you get a weekly? From your parents growing up and do you remember how much it was? Yes it was like twenty dollars or something that was very I'd listenable what about you Jenna. I don't really remember getting an allowance which is odd because I'm sure we did chores and everything, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure we got paid for it which now I they say it's good. It's good to do that as a mother and reading books about how to get your kids disciplined and they say to do it. But no I think we did for both of you. When is the first time? You realize your life was not normal Paris. When I started shitting simple life. Okay what about you? Janna. Well. We went to we flew from Dallas Texas to Washington, DC for my grandfather's inauguration and we'd never been to Washington before. So we were shocked by everything about it by the White House and my sister actually thought all grandfathers had inauguration 'cause grandpa just was so. Funny kind and humble and didn't act like he was more important than anybody else. So we got home and she was like Angie Butcher. Winners, your grandfather's inauguration and she was so. Pointed to find out there was A. Person Thing. Now Paris. Hilton. Have you ever flown coach? Yeah, of course. I'm not I'm not a diva. Yeah. I. Find. What about what about you Jenna? Are you kidding? Yes really only but yeah. Yes, we. Bars and I probably were incumbent than. Than people think which is that yeah I mean, I there was Air Force One back in the day. But that's been gone for a long long time. Right right. Well, Paris, you have always been a fashion pioneer case in point you made the sweat suit a wardrobe staple, twenty years before we all started wearing sweats all day while stuck at home. So I want to run through some pass looks tell us if it's fashion or trash on. Okay. How about this Chinese Zebra print at an event in two thousand you stand by this? Fashion. I. Love. Animals Kerry. Okay what about this look in front of the Sunset Marquee in two thousand? Fashion. Okay, how about this confusion outside of a nightclub in two, thousand and one. Trash and it's beyond look. Okay. Thought this at a fashion event fashion week event in two, thousand and one. trash you look great. Listen I could never wear that string i. think you look Fab. Thank you. How about this? Do you stand behind this very low cut skirt at the VM as in two, thousand and three. That's an iconic look. It's I wouldn't ever work rocket today, but it was so like two thousand. So yeah, fashion. ICONIC. Okay. Very okay. Here you are very little Bo peep in Jeremy Scott. Lay. I love you Jeremy But. The hair. It's just got to go. I was supposed to be a little bow people K. was that a how looks like? No that was the fashion. Okay what about here you're you're at the billboard awards in all white in two thousand three. How do you feel about this? It's about Tino. So fashion. Okay What about this butterfly Princess Look at a Golden Globes party in two, thousand and four. I. Love that Cinderella Vibes Fashion. I like your short hair to okay. Here is the last one. There's a lot going on here at the two, thousand, four as. Trashing. Right thank you very much Paris Hilton. Now, most college kids come home from school with a bag of dirty laundry but Janet. Your Dad was sworn into office during your freshman year. So there's way more to unpack. There I wanNA revisit your days in the White House with first daughter Dish Okay Jeddah did you ever cross on a secret service agent? There was one that was very handsome and I didn't crush on him but but best friend did. Okay. Did you ever break or stain something in the Oval Office and pretend to be innocent? Not In the Oval Office but but upstairs in the house. Yes. I stained something. What's The creepiest painting hanging in the White House? I you know I feel bad saying this but for some reason, the Martha Washington painting her portrait. It's not that flattering. It might be trashing if we want to go back to the old game and I think she was a ball. I'm not sure I don't mean a poor Martha, but the painting itself is a little scary. What was your favorite thing to order from the White House? CHEF. Were never allowed to do that my sister and I tried to order a peanut butter and Jelly when my GRANDPA was president and my grandmother came down to the Bowling Alley and was like this is not a hotel you're not allowed to order here we eat meals at this time and we never never did it again did you have a codename amongst the Secret Service? Yes I did my good name was twinkle I take that as a compliment When we went back to the White House with the today show. We walked in and they were like twinkle welcome home and everybody was like tweet. Ever Very, sweet? All right. Thank you for answering those I love that. Jenna Julia Johnson wants to know. Who Your Dad will be endorsing for president and when I don't think he's GonNa be endorsing anybody this go round but I'm not I'm not sure so. I think he's he's staying out of this one. Really. The well that's that's telling. Jenna I love Cynthia wants to know I've always admired your grandma so much and she's so missed what's something funny about her from your new book that might surprise people to know. Well series of essays remembering your grandparents Yeah I lost my three remaining grandparents in a span of a year but my grandmother Barbara I think was Kinda misunderstood she. I think mainly because of the way she loved and some of the things she said people thought she was a throwback but she was actually kind of modern loved my grandfather so much. But she even when he was president, she didn't agree publicly with everything that he did or said and one. Of the things that I learned about our in writing this book is that she changed her views even in her nineties. So she had a meal with this professor here who who talked to her about transgender rights and you know she was saying her opinion he was saying his and he told me, he left the meal like, why did I do this to this ninety year old woman he felt like he'd gone too far and then he received a letter in the mail. A few weeks later that said you changed my mind and I just thought if a ninety year old woman can set with an open heart and listen and change your views about anything. We all we all could do a little bit better of a job. Wow that's amazing. You know a lot was written in speculated about your grandma's relationship with Nancy Reagan that it was not that great. What you? About that particularly well, I mean I was so little I was you know when when she was the vice president's wife, which is actually called the Second Lydia voiced on that title kind of odd You know I was in first grade. So I don't remember I don't remember it being one way or the other but I do remember you know hearing that there was a strain i. know she always really respected her and I know that they had very similar marriages. I know that she felt like the way that that Nancy loved her husband was in was very similar to the way. My grandparents loved each other. So I think they had more in common than people probably thought. That's great. Peres Sam said, I'm obsessed with your Tiktok and your that's hot challenge. How can people entering and what's? And they said, what's the hottest thing about me that? How can people and? Basically just go onto tiktok and say what's hot like basically anything and then I'm going to be reposting and duetted with people. So yeah, and then they put the Hashtag top. Okay Paris. Emma J. we have a lot of your questions for you guys. And the J. wants to know since you've been friends with Kim Kardashian for decades what do you make of her marriage to? Yay, and if you do speak to her about the drama in their relationship. I think that they make a beautiful couple and they have such beautiful children. I'm so happy for them. And now I don't get involved and drama. I. Love It. Jennifer. ONIC AC- wants to know if it's true that you tried to set your sister up with. Prince Harry. Oh, yeah, I did I tried my on the actually on the show, which is You know probably not the most intimate way to do it but I was interviewing for the today show and I was like you guys can be a really good match and then one of his cousins watched the show I won't say which one texted me afterwards like do you really want to make this happen but then he met Megan and everything is history Paris Melissa Gee said, you've said you've never been dumped in your life, but can you name one celebrity who tried to hit on you that you turn down? Lots of them. Any. Jeddah frank and wants to know how your grandma reacted when revealed on TV that she was missing toe on each filed. I know I've felt she did not like that she was. Disappointed in me and I, I still regret that I couldn't help. But we were talking about people that were missing toes and I it just blurted out and you know I don't know she was like wait. Why did you feel like you had to say that but she forgave me luckily. Funny. Peres. Rochester, Gal fifty-seven said I read your account of your time at Provo Canyon and my heart goes out to you. I knew someone who went to a similar school in the area and has an experience the same as yours why tell your story now and how can people get involved with Breaking Code Silence? Spell if I don't say anything then no one is and I want to be a voice for the voiceless and I want to shout these places down. And people can come forward and tell their story and put Hashtag Breaking Code silence and we are starting a movement to make change. And Thank you for all your support everyone out there I. Really. Really, appreciate it. It seems like this this your story about what happened to you at this. School is kind of going viral like other people are piping up and saying a similar thing happened to me at the school as the school responded yet. Yeah of course, they're saying that they deny and. The new management but I've spoken to people who have just been pulled out of there even like a week ago and the abuse is still happening. So they're just trying to cover themselves so that they don't get sued. Well I'm glad that was brave of you to share your strata I'm sure that it will. It will mean it will do good for people to hear listening to that Paris is heartbreaking and you really are you're making change in it. So important that people feel empowered. To share their heartbreak. Well since you've right turn alert since you both have the unique experience of growing up in a famous sister I want to see how much you have in common with your sister from another Mr it's time to play never have I ever sister edition I'm going to run through experiences. You may have had as part of a famous sister and anytime the statement applies to you sip your drink. Have you ever blamed your sister for something? You didn't want to get in trouble for. Okay. have. You ever had a crush on the same guy as your sister. Barbara such different taste. Do. We have such different tastes really didn't maybe in seventh grade but. Have you ever stolen something from your sister's closet? Yes You both have ever gotten into. Yeah have you ever gotten into a physical fight with your sister? Of. Not Of. You have two parents. Go. I I want normal this. Steve Madden you'll remember those Steve Madame the that everybody wore in like the nineties I went through it that we were at a ranger's game a baseball game and we were getting dressed and I we were upstairs and I threw it at her head and at bled and I felt so bad that I was like please do not tell mom and dad you tell mom and dad I will tell them beep. Anyway Barbara still holds it against me you like that isn't you I. Can acted like that but I was thirteen. That's good. Okay and Paris, you have a special little friend there with you. Yes. I knew they will. Be and what is that? It's a little palm ski. It's like half Pomeranian half Siberian huskies. Little Rascal. God. So cute. What is what is the dog's name? I haven't named him yet because I just got him yesterday. So he's so cute I don't even know what to name him. Curled. I think you should name him A. Alright it is time to take a journey into the past with this. Hey, in Bravo history. Alright. Tonight we're throwing back to this day in two thousand fourteen. When I had clear is in a full heart because the incredible Connie Britton was here much what happens live and I got to fulfil some fantasy Friday night role Friday night lights, role play I. Love this so much area. Did you by chance making your personal mission to take over the education at Tim Riggins. I don't even want to ask you if you cheat. No. Didn't know he was. And I I know school's important. It does not do Tim Riggins a bit ago to grow up ignorant mean and dumb and. By the way I love. That scene with the guest Ever and I say that's how I throw a football I wanNA take Paris and Jennifer being here tomorrow night we've got some housewives podcast superstars with the ultimate beverly. Hills reunion breakdown what our after show on twitter live right now we'll feel. All right. We are back with our watch. What happens live after show Paris Hilton's stars in. This is Paris available on Paris's Youtube. Channel Now in Jeddah Bush Hager's book is called everything beautiful in its time seasons of love and loss available. Now, I have some more questions for you both. Peres when Brennan SF Winston it says I have a burning question for Peres. Have you been to a Walmart? Yes. I love all mart. I knew exactly what Walmart was not a dumb blonde, just very good at pretending to be one. She is if you watch the documentary, you will see you will hear all about this character that she created. It's quite fascinating. Jenna TRICIA. Pie said, do you think people overreacted when you stuck your tongue out at the proper odyssey back when you were younger? I mean I, I don't know people overreact I'll tell you I. Remember doing it too I was we were I was with my dad and my sister and I was like people don't even know what's going on in here like watch this and Barbara I constantly harassed him and try to make him laugh and then I was down in the hotel gym doing the elliptical and I looked up on the TV in. My little face with the spotlight on it like an was on the local news and I was like, Oh, no, I better. Get back up to the Hotel Room Intel Dad Bill. This thing was like went out but no I don't did people overreact I can't remember. What was let me ask you this did your dad overreact what was his I was just like jen this is so typical. You know no, he thought it was I mean he he thought it was funny. I think he. Really Wanted Barbara neither have normal childhoods we did until he became president and then there's no guidebook. But his whole thing was like y'all can be normal college kids like you go be you and then he realized pretty soon after that that we really couldn't be normal college kids but. Now. I mean he his reactions were always filled with Grayson. Love he wasn't the type tip. Shame us for. Acting silly. We're you do you have a relationship or a friendship or a sisterhood with the other kids of first families like are you do you? Do you know? Chelsea. Clinton. I. Know the Obama Girls Yeah. Yes. I do the Yeah. We we really do in some ways. I mean we reach out to each other. Chelsea Nice each other around where we used to. I don't see anybody but we used to see each other around New York City and and we yeah, reach out to the Obama girls and. Vice versa, but we do there's a sisterhood because it's so few of us that we know you know what it's like and the beauty of it and living history, and also some of the difficulties. Do, you know Amy Carter. Met Amy Kerr once I did a a show on Christmas at the White House and got to meet her. The but no, I don't know that. Well I, really don't I should reach out. We never. Carter's you know amy Jo we never hear about Amy Carter anymore. You know Paris Carla s what's know if it's true you turn down the hills reboot and if so do you feel like you dodged a bullet since it was such a mass Yes I did say no to a ton of time. You wouldn't what were you in the hills? Why would they? You weren't in the hills the first time where you? Know. But they wanted me both times and. I have to assume that you have been. I have to assume you have been offered. So many reality shows that you've you've turned down all of them and my right. Every single day, we get different calls, people, pitching shows and I always say, no, I'm too focussed on my business I don't have time for that. was there anything that you were close to saying Yes to? No. I actually just when they right when they called me with something I always say I don't have time. Right Well, the documentary is called this Paris it's available on Paris's Youtube, channel now get Jonah's book beautiful and it's time seasons of love and loss available now, and you can capture on the today show every day. Thank you so much. This was really fun for more. Dot Com. Thanks guys. Thanks for listening to the PODCAST everybody. Hope you enjoyed the show remember new episodes live Monday through Friday at four PM eastern time. Make sure you're subscribed. have a great rusty or not.

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GSMC Entertainment Podcast Episode 182: The Duke and Duchess of Netflix

GSMC Entertainment Podcast

57:48 min | 5 months ago

GSMC Entertainment Podcast Episode 182: The Duke and Duchess of Netflix

"The girl but the day just be one without your Hollywood's Vince flit Golden, state, media concepts, center ten podcast, take care of that, and all inclusive look up pop culture. Hello and thank you for tuning into the GMC entertainment podcast brought to you by the US MC podcast network. I'm your host Jessica Alba sharing some of the top entertainment news that you just need to know guys. Hello and welcome back I'm really excited for today's episode There's a lot coming at you and I, hope you like I you know I I've been watching a lot of I. Love Lucy lately. So I care for my Nanna days a week and I recently brought my ipad to do some work with me. When I go over to her house to see her and she was kind of in. A mood you know and so it was like Neneh do you want to watch I love Lucy and she looked at her eyes wide she's like. Yes. So I pull out my IPAD and I have who on my IPAD and I put on I love Lucy and she was like a kid on Christmas. She was so excited to watch it commercial free and just on loop. So no commercials nothing no nonsense. It was just her and I love Lucy. She was glued to the screen. It was actually so. Cute to watch now, I've always loved I love Lucy as a kid I would watch with Nanna but watching as an adult is like a totally different experience I am now completely obsessed with it kind of like how I'm obsessed with the real housewives of beverly. Hills I don't know if it's because twenty twenty has been such a flop of a year, but I am loving the fashion league. Lucy you look fun nominal in every scene in every episode that and Lucy Gach dressed every single day like, why does that blow my mind so much? It's so sad that it does. But like the women on real housewives of beverly, hills like they dress up every day because they're on TV, and they're creating a TV show but they have these looks that are just so fire and I'm just sitting here and my biker shorts and A T shirt for the JILLIAN. Day in a row I feel just like so so sloppy. But then I think sure there's a lot of things about like the nineteen fifties that. Aren't that great and I I wish like collectively as a society where we would have kept the lake. Dressed up and be presentable part of culture, right. Does that make sense like pajamas are not going out clothes and how many times have I been to the grocery store or run target and I see people just think so sloppy and not care how they represent themselves to the world. Present themselves to the world you know. Look at how like Ricky Ricardo hit how he would always drowsiness sue and beautiful jacket and it was just different times and did their hair like, oh my Gosh Lucy, the amount of time that she would put into her hair and this was like all common in the fifties and I just wish we would bring. I wish we would bring that back but like pajamas out in public, I cannot get behind I might wear comfy clothes on public but I won't where my pajamas out in public I will say that that is the line. I don't even wear my pajamas if I'm just like chilling on the couch at the end of the day I have plenty of lounge close that I'll do that in which is essentially what my wardrobe has been since. March but then I put on my pajamas right before I go to bed I don't want to get them dirty. They're meant for the sheets and not the couch. So anyway I know I'm talking about classics. So for the end of the show, I will be talking about some of my favorite classics of Hollywood you're not GonNa win I miss that. But before we even get to that, I have to tell you all of the fun entertainment news that's going on in the world I mean some of its funds some it not so much. But stuff we need to discuss I feel like you should know we are talking about Paris Hilton. The Duke and Duchess, of Sussex, they have they have signed like quite the deal with net flicks, and then we're going to be talking about dancing with the stars. So guys, this is a show that you will not want to mess and I think it is time we need to just dive right on in I'm GonNa, start this segment with a phrase that I have been wanting to say into the microphone ever since I started doing this podcast. Okay. So ready. We're going to start the first segment. Here we got. Hail you could cats and kittens. That's right. Dancing with the stars has finally revealed its full lineup for the twenty twenty season and yes Carol Baskin of Tiger King will be competing for the mirror ball as well as rapper Nelly and back she plays member Aj. McLean i. mean the first contestant revealed was a few months ago a former Bachelorette. Kaitlyn Bristowe who famously had an offer to do the show Had An offer to do her show after her season of the Bachelorette back in twenty seventeen and then she was told she wasn't allowed to be on the show because show creator of the Bachelor Mike. Fleiss didn't want people going onto the bachelor franchise to find fame even though previous alums such as Melissa right cropped and Trista Sutter had already appeared on dancing with the stars other alums who made appearances on the show. Way. Before Kaitlyn Bristowe Jake Pa- Velka Sean Lowe Chris. Souls Nick Vile Grocery store. Joe and Hannah Brown and this has been a long time coming for bristow and I for one am so excited to watch her compete for the miracle trophy. Competing up against I have the full list here for you. So I'M GONNA go right down the list and give you a little background on who is competing against my girl I. We have Monica automatic think back to the beginning of quarantine when everyone was obsessed with the Netflix's. Every cheer. Coach of the bulldogs. Cheer Team from Navarro College is now going to be front and center herself. I have never done dance in my life. She says, I've always done cheerleading and I've learned very quickly that it's completely different and it's a whole different technique. So I have a long journey ahead of me, but I know how to work hard and I'm definitely going to bring that I love a good. The teacher becomes the student moment. Cheers Gabby Butler and lexi Brownback have shared their words of encouragement to their coach. Saying with her determination, she will become a pro anything and Butler said she's very used to walking in heels already I feel like she's already a hard worker. She is a coach and because of that and she did cheer back in the day I. Think she can take good criticisms. I'm very excited to see her compete. We have Carol Baskin killed her husband rectum the big cats rights. Activists and owner of big cat rescue will also be putting on her dancing shoes. Do you think she'll do the famous Tiktok? Dan's cut I really really hope so like it's really sad how much I need that to happen I feel like it will be this wonderful full circle moment. You know we'll. She'll kind of be like poking fun of herself but then also like really bringing in audience. Take Tog and whoever created that like song about it too that beet is just iconic and so early twenty twenties we have Vernon Davis former tight end who wants super bowl fifty with the Denver broncos. My brother's favorite team. He's also played for the San Francisco Forty Niners, the New Orleans Saints, and The Washington Football Team Davis thirty six retired from the NFL this year He. Admits that he turned down the opportunity to do dancing with the stars in the past, but he's looking for to finally showing America what he can do on the dance floor. There's an hasely actress known for starring in the soap opera another world as well starring in films such as volcano, and nine, hundred, Ninety, eight, psycho remake and TV shows such as men, injuries, and hung. Her kids are super super excited, and supportive of their mom. I mean, who wouldn't be how cool is it to see your mum ballroom dance? There's also sky Jackson Disney channel alum. She also is. Speaking of tiktok Jackson teas that viewers may have to tune in to see if she and her partner incorporate any tick tock trends into their routines, and that is how you grab a younger audience. We have just a Mac Jato actress known for starring on TV shows such sixty under queen of the South and one day at a time we have Ginnie Mae Emmy winning host of the syndicated daytime talk show the real which she has started since the Premiere in twenty thirteen. There's also now. I don't want any of my other instinct fans to be upset for me talking. So positively about this but. AG McLean. McLean I'm sorry. Now everyone knows I mean diehard in sync stand, but I have to say that I am so excited to see this boy band member hit the dancefloor age as best known to be one fifth of the backstreet boys they hold eight grammys. He has the advantage of being in a boy band in the nineties and early two thousands. We all know they had killer dance moves especially for back then so he has that to his advantage psych can't wait to see what he does on the dance floor. I would actually love a moment where he dances to an instinct song I will be so here for that. We also have just cleave. He is an actor known in desperate housewives. He was he also made his film debut in two, thousand, six John Tucker must die fans offer also recognize him from the soap opera passions or be Dallas continuation series most recently, he has been a staple on the hallmark channel on being on dancing with the stars. The actor said I am basically a non dancer, no formal training and Dan's whatsoever I'm excited to work hard and hopefully leave the show with a new skill set maybe a job on Broadway? I. Love a good can-do attitude. I love watching non dancers grow and get better and better each week and as a working actor, he has the discipline and that is half the battle. There's Aweso Nellie this mix my heart. So happy at three time grammy winning singer. Over the years he has produced such hits as hot in her dilemma with Kelly, Rowland, and over and over with Tim. I am so stoked to watch. Nellie ballroom dance I think it's GonNa be so so great and if he can do a dance to get too hot in here, I will be A. Over the moon, it will be overjoyed. There's Charles Oakley. Former power forward who played in the NBA alongside Michael? Jordan on the Chicago Bulls there's also Nev Schulman, the host of catfish a reality series. Based on his twenty ten documentary of the same name about potential pitfalls of online dating when you're talking to strangers having being catfish himself ironically, thirty five year old has since down love with his wife. Laura along with whom she shares two children he is like this generational and cultural icon I think he's a great addition to the show. We have crystal shrouds. Miss Actress has also starred in soap operas, such as all my children and days of our lives, and finally we have John, we are the two time. Figuring Skater. He is a fantastic if. Don't know who he is for figure skating but you like reality TV or these game showed things you have probably seen him on the mast singer he was the egg in season two. He was the first one to be unmasked but I have a funny feeling with his figure skating. Go a lot further with dancing with the stars I am reading for Kaitlyn Bristowe the entire season her time has come. I am so excited for her but you know like I said before I am also ready for new content, bring it on I'm very excited for the season I cannot wait for to start I will be recapping it when it does air. Also with you bachelor as well I, believe they're going to be airing simultaneously eventually but not right away. So yes. So that is the news on dancing with the stars. We finally have the cast it airs very very soon. I think the preview is already next week. COMING UP WE'RE GONNA be talking about Prince Harry and Meghan and also Paris Hilton all different types of royalty. If you ask me and then at the very end of the episode I, O be sharing some of my favorite classics of Hollywood. I am so inspired by watching so much I love Lucy I. Really Hope you stick with me the end because I'm excited to share that with you. So until then guys, we will be right back quick break. What a find out what movies to go see and check out GMC movie podcast it's your ticket to the latest movies whether it's a new blockbuster event, romantic comedy or action flick. This show has got it all covered they talk some what to go see now don't bother what's hot on Netflix's and everything in between that GMC podcast dot com slash movie dash podcast when it's all about the movies, it has to be this new show. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit GS MC podcast dot, com for more INFO. and. Welcome back guys I. Hope You are just as excited for dancing with the stars as I. Am I wonder if there's anybody in that list that you're going to be rooting for on to instagram and let me know. Said I am rooting for Kaitlyn Bristowe all the way but tell me who you're going to be rooting for I would love to hear from you. We can talk gossip as the season airs. But right now, I want to kind of shift gears a little bit. I WanNa talk some fun business news. These two heavy hitters may coming in strong and that is Prince Harry and Meghan they are finally making their own living. It's exactly what they wanted to do. The have signed a multi year deal to make a TV series films and TV shows for net flicks part of their new careers away from the front line of the Royal Family. Meghan Harry. Reportedly held meetings with a number of Hollywood studios and Netflix's streaming rivals since moving to California this year Qube even tried to court the couple. Quick founders, Meg Whitman. And Jeffrey Kuenssberg, Katzenberg I apologize. Both actually went to Harry and Meghan to get them to sign Harry and Meghan also quietly spoke with NBC Universal Disney Apple All before deciding to go with net flicks Netflix's and logical choice for the former senior royals. Platform has already signed on other major public figures like the obamas beyond say and Leonardo DiCaprio. Duke and Duchess of Sussex have yet to name their production company but they have committed already to documentaries docu series feature films, scripted shows, and children's programming the production company. Being established by Harry and Meghan will. Depend only from there already charitable foundation, which is card arch well. Harry and Meghan may appear on camera in documentary programming but Meghan has no plans to return to acting. So if you love her acting suits is all you got guys. So go watch reruns of that in a statement released to the New York Times. Quote our lives both independent of each other and as a couple have allowed us to understand the power of the human spirit of courage resilience and the need for connection through our work with diverse communities and their environments to shining a light on people and causes around the world. Our focus will be on creating content that informs but also gives hope. The couple also shared that they were inspired to produce quality family programming by their baby archie. NETFLIX'S CO chief executive and chief content officer said in a statement quote we're incredibly proud to have chose we're incredibly proud they have chosen Netflix's as their creative home and are excited about telling stories with them that can help build resilience and increase understanding for audiences everywhere. Now netflix is under pressure to keep bits pipelines flowing as it competes with a viewers from other a streaming services. We have Disney plus Amazon Prime Hbo Max Hulu Peacock, and the traditional broadcast networks. Just tuning few family programming is particularly important net flicks and Harry and Meghan. Animated. Series in development that is focused on inspiring women. Last week. NETFLIX released rising. PHOENIX. About the Paralympic Games Harry who founded the INVICTUS Games for wounded veterans makes an appearance in that film. So they're already part of this net flicks community. Hollywood often times can be cool kids club. The OBAMAS are with net flicks in twenty eighteen netflix struck a deal with Barack and Michelle to produce shows and films that partnership in March yielded to Crip camp. A feel good documentary about the origins of the disability rights movement. That is an early favorite to win the two, thousand, twenty, one Oscar for best nonfiction film. Content centered on social messages such as. Racial Justice gender equality and environmental stewardship has all been hot in Hollywood for quite some time but this is something that make it in Harry really want to shine their light upon. Netflix also partnered with participant media founded by ebay billionaire, Jeff Skull and they backed Eva Denarius miniseries when they see us which depicted the excruciating toll that persecution and incarceration had on the teenage boys known as the Central Park Five. It's no wonder that Harry and Meghan want to sit with the cool kids in this situation especially with all the thrilling. Work that they have done in the past, it is unclear. Now, how much money Harry and Meghan we'll be getting paid or have gotten paid with this signing due to their lack of producing experience. Now, there is a rumor going around as to how much money was involved. And this is a rumor. Again it is. Just speculation is just a rumor. This is not fact but the number I hear is close to a hundred million dollars I mean, how does one? Price on snagging a royal it is unquantifiable because this is never been this has never been done before where a true royal of this magnitude has gone commercial and his gone Hollywood I mean not too shabby Prince Harry. The couple also gets paid up to one million dollars for speaking engagements. So to speak a million dollars, the Para signed with Harry Walker. Back in June. Now I think. That this is an amazing opportunity for the couple. It was a very rough road, but the fine but the couple they finally made it. They got here and I think it's all going to be worth it. The couple abruptly announced in. January that they plan to step back from their royal duties seeking financial independence all via instagram post, the me and the media dubbed the departure, megs it after three days of negotiations, Queen Elizabeth, the second granted the couple's wishes. So long as they do not use their most exalted titles such as his, Royal Highness Her Royal, Highness, as well as Sussex royal for branding. I am eager to see what their brand will ultimately be, but I'm also curious since they signed with the Harry Walker Agency, who also represents the OBAMAS I? If they will be entering the podcast world following in the footsteps of Michelle Obama I would love love love for them to host a podcast especially Meghan. This is just the beginning of a whole branding a whole renaissance for Megan and Harry I'm so excited for them. Megan has had quite be rough go of it since the couple began dating I mean she was accused of being a social climber. She was caught a horrible racist slurs and she also had to endure the scrutiny of the press attempting to body. Shame her look listen. If Meghan knew that she had across a crush on on the prince and she happened to know the right people to get them into the same room. Then that's cool. Like good for you I am glad it worked out when I met my husband I made sure that I worked the same shift says he did so I can get to know them like that's fine and here we are so glad. It worked out if that's what she wanted but who cares like this is a charming beautiful and modern couple and all they want to do in this world is good things and the media was just so awful to them every step of the way, and frankly, I don't blame them for leaving their royal duties, I think. They can do just enough just the same if not more than being on their own. They're still going to be hounded by Paparazzi. I. Don't think that's ever GonNa stop everything that they can accomplish and everything that they're going to accomplish, and they're not going to need the approval of any other royals. They're not going to need the approval of Queen or the road. You know the approval of his brother to do what he wants to do or for them to do what they want to do. They have this freedom and listen they're gonNA be the coolest kids on the block in terms of Hollywood. So these doors open for them, the opportunities are going to be plentiful. I am so excited that they're creating this life for themselves. They're creating this life for archie they're creating this life. If they choose to have any other children I, wish them absolutely nothing but the best I think this is great for them. I think Netflix is going to do great things for them. This is going to. It's going to be great like I said, I'm so excited to hear what their production name is going to be. It's This is all good. There's nothing bad about this. So I'm so excited for them I. Wish them absolutely nothing but the best and all the all the success in the world I mean my Lord. Get it. Make those dollars, guys, you deserve it. So. Next, we're going to be switching gears a little bit. We're going to be talking about Paris Hilton in how she is opening up about her abusive past. So just a heads up guys in next segments going to be a little bit of a Downer. But then after that, I'm very excited to share with you some of my favorite things about classic Hollywood. There's so much history in the final segment and it's not boring history. It's very fun history. So I am very excited to share all of that with you. So stay tuned we will be right back. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast covered. From News Sports Music Fashion Entertainment Fantasy football and so much more. So stop flirted around and go straight to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to build that podcast is Whatever it may be visit us at www Jesus MC podcasts, dot com, follow us on facebook and twitter, and download on itunes soundcloud and Google play. A. All right friends welcome back. I want to start this segment with a trigger warning as we are about to discuss the topic of abuse as it relates to Paris Hilton. This segment also has a lot of quotes. I do not want to speak out of turn and I don't want to put any words in Paris mouth considering the topic. So there's going to be a lot of quotes. So just like ride along with me, this is definitely me sharing some news with you. It's going to be a little bit less opinion based. So again, trigger warning topic of abuse as it relates to Paris Hilton. Paris Hilton. Is Speaking up in her new documentary. This is Peres premiering September fourteenth on Hilton. Youtube Channel The entrepreneur and Reality Star reveals for the first time. The horrific abuse she endured as a teen while at a Boarding School in Utah. She is one of the first celebs to become famous for being famous Hilton is sharing her story her true story in the trailer she talks about being Paris Hilton and she says that while she feels like the whole world things that they know her she doesn't feel like she knows herself sometimes. Her character of Paris Hilton is very different from who this woman actually is. Years before she became a household name in the simple life in twenty. Oh my goodness. That's how I'm used to. I am reading dates. Years before she became a household name on the simple life in two thousand and three Hilton was eighteen living in New York City's famed. Story Hotel with our parents, Rick and Kathy Hilton and younger siblings Nikki Baron Conrad Life in the Big City also came with very big temptations and like any teen in like any teenager specially strict parents Paris rebelled and she snuck out to go to clubs and parties and her parents got fed up with our actions like any parent would and despite other punishments of taking her phone and her credit card is punishment. They couldn't seem to get through their daughter. So they made the decision to send seventeen year old Paris to a series of boarding schools that claim to focus on behavioral and mental development the last of which was Provo. Canyon. School. Where Hilton Stayed for eleven months. Almost immediately after she arrived the the abuse that she faced took place on a daily basis quote. I knew it was going to be worse than anywhere else. It was supposed to be a school but classes were not the focus at all from the moment. I woke up until I went to bed. It was all days screaming in my face yelling at me continuous torture the staff would say terrible things they were constantly making me feel bad about myself and bully me. I think it was their goal to break us down. And they were physically abusive hitting and strangling us be wanted to instill fear in the kids. So we'd all be too scared to disobey them. Not these allegations are supported by four of Hilton's former team classmates who also make an appearance in the documentary including that they were forced fed medication and held down by restraints as punishments. Other punishments included being held in solitary confinement for up to twenty hours a day from making plans to run away from the school. Now I want to be. Completely transparent and honest with you guys. This is me just hogging before I started reading this story my brain. When I saw the headlines immediately went to poor little rich girl and I mistakenly assumed that this was an exaggerated story like, oh Boohoo you got yelled at, you had to face consequences for your actions like the stereotype that the wealthy don't suffer from any repercussions because they have the money and the means to avoid it. But these allegations are very serious and it is a true abuse of power. Staffers of the school allegedly cleaned that quote no one is going to no one is going to believe you. So if Peres told her parents, what was going on She was told that they wouldn't believe like, why would they? Why would they believe me like I'm just like a seventeen year old girl against his big school like that is abuse and then it's terrible. It's like all the physical stuff aside just that sentence is abuse and it's awful. So finally when she turned eighteen in nine, hundred, ninety, nine Paris was able to leave the school and head back to New York, but she was so scared to speak a word of her experience to anyone. So. This poor girl had to hold all of this awful awful experience in her something that her parents like your parents drove you there flew their check. Do you in set up your room and was like this is your life and like you trust your parents need put you in this situation on granite her parents didn't know. That this was going on. But to Paris. That what? That was normal. That's really really heartbreaking and it's really really sad. It really breaks my heart. Paris says I was so grateful to be out of there. I didn't WanNA bring it up like it was something that I was ashamed of and I didn't want to speak of it. Oh my goodness Perez I am so so sorry. But more than twenty years later in filming the documentary and reflecting on her life as Far Hilton says that she was finally able to open up about the trauma of her past in the hopes that she can finally move on Hilton says she doesn't have any plans currently to pursue legal justice instead she's focused on raising awareness about other so called behavior improvement. Schools. That she's says, it still employ as a practice, the kind of physical and verbal abuse she endured for so long she says, I, want these places to shut down I, want them to be held accountable and. I want to be the voice for children and now adults everywhere who had similar experiences. I wanted to stop for good and I will do whatever I can to make it happen. The hotel is also opens up about abuse that she faced in her personal relationships. She details how she was strangled hit and grabbed aggressively and how she put up with things that no one should and that the abuse that she experienced at Provo Canyon made her feel like this type of abuse was normal. She had relationships with these relationships. I don't want to say with all five with all of her relationship but five of her ex boyfriend's whom she says abused her Straw started the exact same way the all seemed to be such nice guys and then the true colors would show. They would get jealous or defensive or try to control me, and there would be some point at which they would become physically verbally and emotionally abusive. I don't really understand that kind of I didn't really understand what love or relationships were I thought that them getting. So crazy meant that they were in love with me looking back I can't believe I. Let people treat me like that. Thankfully in filming her Documentary Hilton found a way to release her trauma. Hilton is now dating eight thirty, nine year old entrepreneur Carter Room her boyfriend of nine months and they are in a happy and healthy relationship. She says that she feels safe with him before I didn't think I was. Really ready for a good relationship I've learned so much and I'm grateful to have found my perfect match again, the documentary this parrot, this is Paris. which will I I will absolutely be watching airs on Youtube on September fourteenth. Now Paris Hilton was the first person to be famous for being famous. This was before Kim Kardashian Perez walked so that Kim could run but because Paris was the like the first, she was then the social experiment, she was our first influence her she is long overdue to share her life and what Israel especially now that authenticity is valued so so much more than a public persona I. For one didn't like Paris Hilton, the character as a teenager I never had what she had and I didn't have the access that she had resented her for it I hated how she just didn't understand the working class. But now as an adult, I'm eager to hear her side of this story. Even in the trailer of the documentary, you can clearly hear the two very different Paris Hilton voices. The woman was born into means stereotyped and put in boxes that didn't fit her and she is constantly fighting for her identity Paris. I am so excited you're probably not listening to this him. So excited to hear what you have to say I am so excited to hear your story and I'm so excited to see who you truly are. So guys I will be tuning on September fourteenth and I will be doing the podcast recap of this documentary. I'm very anxious to see it. And if you feel like you're in an abusive relationship, please seek help there are people out there who will help you do not feel ashamed it is not normal and it is not okay. Go get help go to your friend go to a parent go to someone who you trust a boss anybody and get help no one will judge you know one. So that is that on that guys we're GonNa take a break and when we come back, I will be sharing some of my favorite things about classic Hollywood so stay tuned. Golden state media concepts, bring you book. Review Podcast, I haven for book rooms of all ages and the whitest genres from mystery to memoirs romance to comedy. Fantasy SCIFI. If you love to read, this is a podcast it's the Golden State Media Concept's book review. PODCAST. All right guys. Welcome to my favorite part of the podcast multi favorite things, I feel like I need to come up with some kind of clever title for this segment my favorite things so I'll figure something out. Maybe. We can open it up to instagram and we can vote about the title of this portion of the show at definitely needs a title I need to be able to say something at the start of it. Anyway in honor of watching so much classic TV's such as I love Lucy I, am going to share with you some of my favorite classics in Hollywood. So I've I've just broken down. So there's only three this time usually I give you five things broken it down to just three because I would like to stretch this out in podcast down the road because it's something that I'm pretty passionate about so I'm going to be talking about my favorite movie, my favorite comedy, my favorite TV series. Of Classic Hollywood of that era. So this is not in any particular order. These are just three subjects them really passionate about, and I'm really excited to share it with you. So if you're not familiar with anything that I'm talking about I'm not gonNA be overwhelming you. You can kind of go and research it yourself or watch it, and we can talk about it. You know down the road again, this is something I'm really passionate about and I am very excited to share it with you. So let's just start. Let's start with the movie segment. So this started out with an assignment from college and ended up really really staying with me. And that is the movie Sunset Boulevard. This is a nine, thousand, nine, hundred, Fifty, American film, Noir, directed, and Co written by. Billy. Wilder and produced and Co written by Charles Bracket. It was named after the thoroughfare of the same name that runs through Los Angeles and Beverly Hills California Sunset Boulevard. I am sure you have all heard of the famous road. The film. Stars William Holden as Joe, Gillis a struggling screenwriter and Gloria Swanson as Norman Desmond? A former silent film star who draws him into her demented fantasy world where she dreams of making a triumph returned to the screen. It was nominated for eleven academy. Awards seven Golden Globes. At its core, it is a timeless story. How the world acuse? Quickly and we're trying to keep up but we all keep getting older and older we get we have difficulty. Try We have a difficult time trying to keep up with all the changes that's happening in the world If, you haven't seen the film I. Am I certain you have at some point heard its most famous and iconic line it is. I am ready for my closeup, Mr Demille. I have seen this line delivered almost everywhere from the simpsons to the rugrats it is. So it comes from this movie. Gloria Swanson, who gave a brilliant and haunting performance as Norma Desmond was a star in the silent film era herself you had to figure out. Had to figure out how to go from the silent movies to the talkies. In Nineteen, twenty, five, Swanson joined United Artists as one of the film's One of the film industry's pioneering women producers. She hired row awash in nineteen twenty seven to direct the film sadie Thompson where Swanson played the title character a smoking drinking jazz listening young prostitute who arrives at Pegu Petco, which is American Samoa. On her way to a job with a shipping line. The film also stars Lionel Barrymore the great uncle of actress Drew Barrymore see like this is why I love old Hollywood, all these fun little connections. So her performance in savings, Thomson gave her the nomination for best actress in the very first annual. Academy. Awards. In nineteen thousand, nine, hundred, five, sunset boulevard was chosen by the Library of. Congress for preservation as being culturally historically or aesthetically significant. Maybe down the road, we can do a like part two of this film. It is such a good movie. I love the style cinematography, the story it is so interesting I mean it basically. Opens with a funeral for a monkey. the car you know her car in this movie is incredible the. I mean. There's a car phone in this movie and again it was it was filmed in nineteen forty nine and there is a carbon but not in the way that you imagine it well. I guess you don't really imagine it now. Because, we all have cell phones but just so interesting to see how she does her her beauty regimen to get beautiful to be on film is incredible to watch I. Mean her home is spectacular. It is such a fun movie. So highly highly suggest that you go see it again i. Watched it in a class, and as soon as the class was over I went to the library on campus and rented the film and I brought it back to my dorm room and I shared it with my roommate I knew she would love it and I was correct. We still send each other gifts or Jeff's about this of this movie to this day. We absolutely love it. It is incredible. Please please go watch a I will talk more about details of the film in the future. So next, I'm going to talk about classic comedy and I'm going to be talking about who's on first this is a Scott. This is a comedy sketch that is so popular that it has its own wikipedia page who's on first is a comedy routine made famous by American Comedy Duo Abbott, and Costello the premise of the sketch that Abbott is identifying the players on a baseball team for Costello but their names and nicknames can be interpretive as non responsive answers to Castillo's questions. So for example, the first Baseman is named who thus utterance who's on first is ambiguous. Between the question. Who is the first baseman and the answer the name of the person on I is who? So now I grew up I watched a lot of Abbott and Costello Abbott and Costello. Meet Frankenstein is one of my absolute favorite Halloween movies and this. WHO's on first is the cornerstone of great comedy who's on first is descended from turn of the century burlesque sketches that used plays on words and names. WHO ON FIRST So in February of nine, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty, eight, Abbott and Costello joined the cast of the Kate Smith Hour radio program and the sketched was first performed for a national radio audience on March Twenty Fourth of that year. By nineteen forty four, Abbott and Costello had the routine copyrighted in twenty twenty. This is still funny. I think you can hear Wilson in the background I do apologize. In Two thousand twenty this is still hysterical. I mean it's not just the words of the sketch, but it's also the delivering. So if you WANNA, go see it go on Youtube and watch who's on first with Abbott and Costello. It is absolute genius. Please go do it. You can see so much comedy has a modern day comedy derives from this particular skit and next it is no question but I'm Going to be talking about television and we're GonNa talk about what I talked about in the top of the show and that is I. Love Lucy. Now I love Lucy to those who do not know is an American television Sitcom that originally aired on CBS from October Fifteenth Nineteen. Fifty one to May six, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, seven with a total of one, hundred, eighty half hour episodes spanning six seasons. The show starred Lucille Ball her then real life husband Desi Arnez Vivian. William Frawley. Now I had this conversation with my husband last night that really blew my mind. The TV show the premier back in October of fifty one and that was sixty nine years ago almost seventy years. That is so. So. Crazy to me. It was not long ago that the show came out. So we have come. Such a long way in terms of television since I love. Lucy I love. Lucy became the most watched show in the United States on four of its six seasons and it was the first to end its run at the top of the Nelson Ratings. The accomplishment leader matched only by the Andy Griffith show in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, eight, and Seinfeld in nineteen, ninety eight. The Show I love Lucy was also the first scripted television program to be shot on thirty five millimeter film in front of a studio audience. It won five Emmy Awards and received numerous nominations and honors. It was me for show ever to feature an ensemble cast. It is often regarded as the greatest and most influential Sitcom in history. And talk about a different era in television just before filming the show Lucy and Desi learned that Lucy. was once again pregnant after multiple miscarriages earlier in their marriage with their first child Lucy Arnez, the filmed the original pilot wild lucy was quote showing but did not include any reference to the pregnancy in the episode. This was because CBS thought that talk of pregnancy might be in bad taste and because an ad agency told Desi not to show a pregnant woman. Later. During the second season, Lucy was pregnant again with their second child Desi Arnez Junior, and this time the pregnancy was incorporated into the series storyline. CBS would not allow I love Lucy to use the word pregnant. So expecting was used instead in addition sponsor Philip Morris made the request that Lucy. Not Be seen smoking during the pregnancy episodes. So see. They had morals back. Then the episode in which Lucy gives birth called Lucy goes to the hospital first aired on January nineteenth nine, hundred fifty. which was the day before the inauguration of Dwight. Eisenhower President of the United States to increase the publicity of this episode, original air date was chosen to coincide with Lucille Ball's real life delivery of desert junior. Section. Lucy goes to the hospital was watched by more people than any other television program up to that time with seventy one point, seven percent of all American television sets tuned in. That topped the sixty seven point seven rating for the inauguration coverage of the following morning. I just think that is such a fun Hib tidbit about the show and its cultural impact that it had. On the country I, mean, that is incredible. Seventy one point seven percent of all televisions in America tuned into watch Lucy give birth. That's crazy. I mean. It's so difficult to scale something like that these days. You can't I mean people don't watch television like they used to how we consume. TV is so different I mean like we talked about with Harry and Meghan. You know there with Netflix, but people are watching Netflix. Hulu and we're not all watching shows at the same time like sure we're all watching stranger things right? Like we all watched Hamilton but we all didn't watch together and that is what I think is so cool and how it kind of used to be like. Looking back I remember is the big deal that it was to watch who shot Mr Burns on the simpsons that was something that we all watched at the same time and I remember listening to the radio and you know radio host giving their opinions on who shot Mr. Burns. I. You don't get that anymore. You don't get that these days. So I think that's really cold more people. Watch Lucy. Give birth. The inauguration of Dwight, Eisenhower? In, one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, three like crazy to me. So anyway, that was just a little history lesson for you all about classic TV comedy and movies, I really hope that you enjoyed it. I would love to talk more about it in the future I. Know as we get closer Halloween I'm definitely going to be talking about Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein. It is a great piece if you WANNA watch it. If you're feeling that spooky spirit, please go watch and it's very, very good. Very, very funny. I watched it on loop as a child and I would wear my Nana's close as I watched because I like to play dress up and I would pretend I was in that movie So maybe I'm an Old Soul, who knows so anyway guys that is the episode we talked dancing with the stars we talked Harry and Meghan we talked Perez Hilton we talked Hollywood classics I mean we covered so much ground today I really hope you enjoyed yourself. Thank you for spending this hour with me until next time I'm Jessica and thank you for listening to the MC ENTERTAINMENT PODCAST brought to you by the MC podcast network. I would like to ask you to please remember to subscribe to the show and ready beautiful glowing review that really helps us out that helps me out. Also, if you can please follow us on facebook twitter and Instagram I would really really appreciate it again guys. Thank you so much. Have a wonderful wonderful night goodbye. 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Spheres of Influence

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Spheres of Influence

"WNYC in New York, this is on the media. This week, we examined the notion of manufactured reality from the encroachment Cunanan into the wellness world where we go one, we go all, which is very much in alignment with a belief system within Yoga I. Mean we believe we all want to Paris Hilton. says. I'm the original. But sometimes I feel like. I helped create a monster. She asked me to find her roommate Jessica because she remembered creating the parcel character with her. They had a name for her she was called Decoy to reality dating shows. TV ages by the next day, it's meant to be consumed. Enjoyed meant to be moved by it, and then you meant to throw it away. Travel. With us down the rabbit hole after this. I'm ANA sale host of death sex and money. In our new series game changer we're looking at how the pandemic has been to the lives and livelihoods. Athletes could be the end of my career I I. Listen. Wherever you get your podcasts. CH-. Listener supported W. nyc studios. From WNYC in New York, this is on the media I'm Bob Garfield I'm Brooke Gladstone. In this hour we consider various permutations of branding in particular branding and cultural spaces dominated by women. We focus our attention there because those spaces are so often disregarded or dismissed by our cultural curator's that they are easy places from which to tunnel into the mainstream for good or ill. Close. Listeners may have noticed that we've reported early and often on the conspiracy theory. Cunanan that imagines. In the thrall of shadowy satanic cabal of billionaires, celebrities, and Democrats who control the government to facilitate their pedophilia. Cunanan Views Donald Trump as our soul champion and savior. We Follow Q. and non because it's unhinged sometimes violent and increasingly influential it's also his ceaselessly moving target, and now it's burrowing into the mainstream from spaces. You would least expect its followers to be on the media producer Laya fetter has more shine. Corn is a yoga teacher and influence with long curly hair, a calming presence and over one hundred thousand instagram followers. Over the past several months she began seeing a strange phenomenon pop on her feet, I started to get directed to these pages that look like any wellness branding someone young healthy. In the first frame they were modeling yoga the second frame it was some delicious organic meal that they had cooked and the next frame it was them running on the beach, perhaps their family and then. There would be a slide pastelle beautiful on and it would say Kobe is a hoax and from there a torrent of conspiracies Cunanan's revelations come in the form of q drops cryptic dispatches from a mysterious person or persons posting supposedly highly classified and pretty much universally wrong omens allies ahead on to the next cue post two, thousand, two, hundred, thirty, two, dated September twentieth things are moving. And key responds faster than you know their accusations of Democrats harvesting the blood of children, predictions of the imminent arrests of high profile politicians and others against him stands the peerless defender of the people our current president. Suffice it to say it's nonsense birthed in the dredges of the Internet but in this restless lockdown summer if purchase all across the INTERWEBS and the streets and it's dangerous Parker police say a far right conspiracy theorist was planning a kidnapping and Douglas County investigators say that she believed her child had been taken by Satanic Pedophilia Ring of Democrats that is being secretly battled by President Trump police say her child had actually been removed by child protective services lawyers for the man accused of killing a reputed mobster on Staten Island. Say he was trying to make a citizen's arrest Anthony Camilla's legal team says the twenty four year old was obsessed. With. The Q Annan conspiracy theory mellows attorneys say that he thought he was under president trump's protection corn had been vaguely familiar with Cunanan as a peripheral phenomenon. But when the pandemic started, it moved to the center of her field of vision colleagues of mine started to reach our to end. They were circulating information a lot of deep concern a lot of talk about a deep state that there was this great awakening that was happening and that we're all being duped, she knew that the great awakening is accused on term of art. So is do your research where we go one we go all calm before the storm Save our children. All these terms can be found on the pages of Instagram influencers. The reality is nothing as we know it is true. Yes. There is good in the world, but our world is being run by evil. You learn aware at this point that we're at the precipice of the dawning of the Egypt like then I don't know what you're doing but you're still asleep Promote trump I'm literally following my gut because I know I believe I believe something is going on I have been digesting information from my guides about what this light worker in human form looking like the name Donald Trump has been doing for the entire human collective. I mean like, did you see the way? He's for health care I think that we're gonNA see incredible things with the next six weeks I mean I. Think that honestly, we might see a few cures for cancer is coming out I started to push back a little bit amongst my friends and the more I pushed back the more assertive aggressive. They were just referring to me as your sheep will the community corn is a part of is primarily oriented yoga. So how did a shadowy conspiracy theory initially embraced by the darker reaches of the Internet and some Evangelical Christians? Way into her world's saw people who are perhaps more into spirituality saw people who were simply parents who were concerned about children. Chavis view is co host of the on anonymous podcast. There certainly has been the survey, a general demographic shifts when media cover the spread of conspiracies and disinformation they tend to focus on youtube twitter and facebook far less attention has been paid to their slicker sister site instagram, but there too, and increasingly communities are being swept up into Cunanan. Marc Andre Argentino. Candidate at Concordia University coined the term Pastelle Q., and on to describe this shift Travis. View Pastelle. Q. Is a kind of Cunanan. That's very attractive to lifestyle influencers or mommy pages fitness influencers, diet pages, alternative healing meditation Yoga these sorts of things you see the soft pastel colors you see the sunset very enticing images, wellness messages sort of interwoven with. The Q. and non messages the original Cunanan fixated on idea that the military was going to sweep in and fix everything they believe that q was military intelligence that the military would round up all of the deep state pedals and send them to Guantanamo Bay in Pastel Q. There's less fixation, those sorts of things and more general vague save the children message. Who doesn't want to help protect children? Of course, the intrude this narrative is really just a pipeline into the broader Cunanan worldview a worldview that stoked, Axa. Violence subverted our political landscape and which can be lucrative for online influencers in a recent episode of his podcast. Travis viewed dug into the content of a small scale influence her with about five thousand instagram. Followers Ivy rose was simply into alternative healing. She had an instagram page where she talked about meditation and Yoga had dreadlocks. She seemed like someone who you might find that you know a burning man or something. But because of Q. on the benefits are provided to her as a online influence her it seems like she just fell straight down this rabbit hole. Q. IS TEACHING US morals and a vision of world humanism teaching US patriotism and valuing freedom and integrity, and unity and honor and transparency. You know like Q is teaching us or reminding us of the energetic in value based morals of like the foundation of what we're all gonna need as humans going forward what does Q. in on potentially offered? Somebody like that if you are interested in building up your online presence, then Cunanan it's kind of like an online cheat code because the Cunanan community, they will flock to any influencers that repeat their narratives. So if you want to build up your following, then it might actually might be a good idea to promote Cunanan because it does that for you now. Of course, the danger is that it promotes extremism and this could lead to dangerous situations violence. But if you're just interested in pure page views that it can be quite effective to understand that effectiveness, it helps to understand the shape shifting nature of Cunanan conspiracies them. The periphery of the core are all these other beliefs. Corn explains especially believes that are related. To concerns in the wellness community, they really appealed to the anti boxers within my community and this paranoia that we're going to be forced forced into vaccinations. This particular kind of paranoia and the Cunanan rabbit hole down which leading so many in corns community has been dubbed Conspiracy -ality a term popularized by the podcast of the same name now tracking this phenomenon. The trip down, the rabbit hole is greased by the language of and on the phrase great awakening suggest an experience you might have after enough meditation retreats and then there's the main tagline for the conspiracy movement. Where we go one, we go all, which is very much in alignment with a belief system within yoga name, we believe we all want an as the conspiracy theories spreads outward it's adapting. Cunanan converts use the language that they're steeped in that works in their communities to spread the message I. Hear You. I'm listening very specific language that you would use when you're in conflict as a way to develop relationship and create a sense of harmony and goodwill. If I was part of a Colt that's what I would do. That's how you bring people in in my meeting Nassir Divisiveness and harsh rhetoric but through communication and openness. That's especially true in a moment of extreme vulnerability, a global pandemic, a lockdown, an unpredictable action. There's a sense of helplessness of feeling of being out of control people because that fear their nervous systems are deregulated and they're looking for something to bring them back into Homeo- stasis into a sense of calm into that vulnerability has stepped a conspiracy theory that gives the illusion of empowering people often while urging them to throw. At power they do have away they're being oriented towards what's called Hashtag walkaway inviting people basically just to abandon the system altogether and not vote at all. It may be hard to understand why members of supposedly progressive community would fall prey to a world view that's going all in for the political. Right. But corn says that confusion might be based on a false premise. You should never be assumed that just because you practice yoga or you know organic food that somehow your democratic or left leaning in any capacity when I go. To their profiles to see who are these people like, what's their lives like, what are they believe and I'm seeing a lot of white folks and a lot of white women with privilege they actually benefit from their policies. It's clear that Republicans have more successfully capitalized on the QN on conspiracy but political scientist Joseph in Sqi says, there's nothing in the queue and on ethos that spun to mentally about conservatism or the Republican Party Luna talking tax policy or anything like that. So the doctrine itself isn't really about left right politics. There are a lot of people in the Republican Party that Cuban on wants hung for their crimes to I. Mean they have misgivings about the entire establishment that sort of why they're gravitating towards trump because trump is an outsider in many of the polls show equal numbers of Republicans Democrats believe coupon on, and you say that that is people with a propensity toward conspiratorial thinking what are the signs of that propensity conspiracy thinking is a worldview which we all have to one degree or another in which conspiracies dictate events and circumstances. So you can imagine someone who has that worldview very strongly, any event they witness or any circumstance they want to explain it's going to be very easy for them to jump to a conspiratorial explanation because it matches what they already believe about how the world works. I think it's really more magical thinking and I think that you can find plenty of magical thinking in these wellness communities Chattha steal people might buy into the idea that crystals have healing properties. For example, when you believe something like that, then is not that great a leap to believe that you know we're entering. Into a new greats more enlightened age, and you get to a part of it simply by posting these Hash Tags on Instagram in response to the upswell and Cunanan content in the wellness and spirituality world members of corns community drafted a statement that she and others with large followings posted to their instagram pages with white capital letters set against a black square background we care and we stand against Cuban on. So I felt it was my responsibility as a leader in the community as someone that I know people trust not to be neutral about it because Cunanan has its roots in. White supremacy culture, they support racial terrorism, they anti-science organization they're fraught with lies, and if we believe that we're all one and that's how we talk about that in the wellness world that we're all one and that I can't be free unless were all free then not to address. This makes me complicit in response. She's gotten some predictable backlash in her comments and her DM's what I did was polarizing and created division, which makes me sad what it was necessary just to kind of name it for what it is they are as concerned about the well being of this community. As I am I just think that they're misinformed and have been manipulated, but they think the same thing about me. Now within the wellness community, it's a battle of influencers versus influencers but alongside the hate corn also gets another kind of response. She says, I am the girl you were talking about the newer Yoga instructor without a community vulnerable to those messages and was really confused by everything already. Then this all came out and I really needed support and much for speaking about this. I have received countless messages like that by people saying that they were slipping or messages saying that. Their beloved teachers were saying things really confused them. Corn emphasizes the only one of the many people working to combat the disinformation, sweeping her community working separately and together a decree resources to bring clarity to the informational chaos. But in this moment of global uncertainty and fear, the wellness world is far from the only one facing the threat of encroaching conspiracy some courtesy of q on. Travis few kind of like a cafeteria conspiracy theory in the sense that you can sort of like go out into the the broad complex narrative of Cunanan and. On the parts that appeal best to you and I think that's why a lot of people are doing on either side of the political spectrum. Last week, lily lift Bro wrote in slate about an influx of women joining the QN unfold this summer. Back in July the Guardian reported on Q. on perch in the world of mixed martial arts. Seekers flow in through an ever expanding array of entry points. Maybe New Age awakenings aren't for you. Maybe you're not enticed by the possible arrest of Hillary Clinton but how about curing disease or saving children once you're in often you stay in. Syracuse University professor Whitney Phillips wrote in wired this week about the network effects that make debunking conspiracy like Hyun on. So challenging once a person is tuned into the conspiracy, they serve more sites to confirm it subjecting them to a media wraparound effect everything lines up efforts like corns to fight bad information with good are laudable essential even. But until these powerful social media platforms take action to combat the disinformation ecosystem that they've created. Corn and her allies will be left bringing siege bundles to a gun fight. For on the media I'm laugh at her. Coming up another example of branding that bears no resemblance to reality. In this case, a young woman who got famous billing herself as Vapid party girl this is on the media. Bunga Bunga is a new wondering original podcast hosted by legendary comedian Whitney Cummings. It tells the incredible true story of how Silvio Berlusconi used the power of his media holdings to get himself elected as prime minister for almost two decades. He Fed the people a message of unity power and economic prosperity. But instead of making good on those promises, he threw wild sex parties, blackmail government officials, and most importantly rewrote laws to protect and enrich himself until two words brought his entire empire crashing down Bunga Bunga. This is on the media I'm Brooke Gladstone Bob Garfield Glam icon Paris. Hilton may be among the world's most photographed people. But there are two documents that most define her the I was a sex tape. What we now call revenge porn that emerged when she was just nineteen, but it propelled her from routine gossip column to. Global notoriety. The second media artifacts was a reality show that aired from two, thousand and three, two, thousand and seven called the simple life and the Chia peered as a did see young socialite trying to cope with the real world in rural America. Viva laying out at Walmart. I. Think. They saw stuff. And clueless. Yeah no despite what the show depicted, Paris Hilton New Walmart is and she was also familiar all too familiar as it turns out with such proletarian realities as mopping floors. I overall thinks they know me. No one really knows who I am. Is Hilton herself in the documentary film this is Paris on Youtube establishing the premise which the film gradually shockingly turns upside down Alexandra. Dean director of this is Paris could have made a film about page six fame about Glam culture and hyper sexualization about media manipulation. It could have been about adolescent trauma and Ptsd it could have been a redemption narrative or a business case about myth making or an expose so she made. All of them. I think I made a psychological portrait that's what I set out to do. So clutch profile. You've also called it a love story in three acts. Well. Every act is structured around a search for love Paris is a person who has lost and she's looking for that emotional connection in the world and she tries in the first act to find it from her fans. That's what I saw her doing when I followed her around the world for a year and she doesn't manage that and at the end of act one, you see why and then the two is. Really trying to go back to her family and reconnect with them and and find the love relationship there, and she can't do that because of her past, which we start to unearth an acts three is really about turning that love narrative on its head and Paris actually finding some meaning outside of herself showing some love for some people that have suffered similar trauma to see a path to freedom through that looking outward. I want to begin with the first part of the film that establishes that as a Glam, icon and entrepreneur Paris. Hilton leads an insanely grueling life style at two hundred and seventy five days a year on the road. Another. Quickly, established point is that she has a number of issues including insomnia. For, fear, we learn of a recurring nightmare in. And these two people come into my room. Say Do. You want this to happen the easy way or the hard way and they brandish some handcuffs and she runs I'm trying to run. And that happens every night and then Tom, will understand what is the genesis of this anxiety? Paris has major trust issues. There is a scene where her new boyfriend is going to house sit for something well, she's traveling and as he's about to arrive, we see setting up spike cams all over the house that just was happening. When I showed up that day she says I want to know what's happening. I'm not here. This is a woman of course, one of whose previous boyfriends filmed and then released to the public a tape of an evening of sex. Wasn't the only one. Pamela Anderson was first but her sex tape came out at a time when very few people had ever had sex be made public it went viral and it was a very traumatic experience that was a private moment with a teenage girl. Not In her right head space. But everyone was watching it and laughing like it's something. Funny. And we again see some of the evidence of. Trauma. Personality addicted in particular to drama to attention to control. To money. Her goal she says to make a billion dollars. Even. If it means putting off motherhood, indefinitely I will not stop until I make a billion dollars. And I think I can relax driven driven to the point. I would argue of pathology we're in her jewellery closet and she's complaining about how can't find anything and I really push her and say, why do you need to keep going? You've got everything you can't even find the drills you have. And she admits that it's an issue of control and then you realize Oh my God this is a person who's trying to have control over her own life in a family where people are outsize personalities and of course, outsize wealth. So in order to have that independence psychologically, she felt like she had to outdo even I, I would argue her great grandfather, Conrad Hilton, the man who started the Hilton hotel chain. And at this stage, you're hardly disabused of what I think remains a common. Assumption on the part that the sex tape was in intentional manipulation of a sex scandal hungry public to launch tourism mega-celebrity. Collateral benefit it did have a collateral benefit for Paris I'm sure she will continue to be judged for that at the same time. When you finish the film, You understand another level of trauma has taken place before the sex tape came out, and in fact, you find out that other women who went through the same traumas. Paris also went on to have abusive relationships and be abused in much. The same way she was by Rick Solomon. So I think another layer I hope of reframing happens by the end of the film when you when you cast your mind back to that section about the sex tape. Okay. So now I, think it's time to discuss the NUB of the story. The provenance of that nightmare which we know. So haunts her, it goes back to when she was out of control teenager acting out, we know her parents did not know what to do with her and what they did was enroll her in a series of these sort of outward bound type bootcam-. To get her back on the rails, these camps came out of a cult called sign on and it was about using these harsh techniques isolation punishment to get people over drug addictions, and that evolved into a way to deal with troubled teens over time and the cult was shut down for its violent practices but the troubled teen industry kind of never seemed to register that. So there's an entire. Industry today based around the philosophy of these colts that puts children in isolation that uses physical intimidation, and I would argue abuse this now accepted technique for dealing with children who have emotional or sexual problems, and there's a whole mess of them in Utah for some reason ever android Gulag archipelago of Teen Treatment Right Wow. Yes. How did she end up at this place called Provo Canyon School. Paris was kidnapped from her own bed. It was a way of transporting teens that might try and run away to these schools and not uncommon with very common. There's an entire industry around that. There are teams of men who come and take teenage children out of their beds in the middle of the night with their parents sanction to these schools in handcuffs. It's incredibly traumatic and every single one of the former troubled teens that I've discussed. This with has the same recurring nightmare as Paris. Emma correct that you think it was her traumas that really unleashed the tremendous will behind what has become the Paris we know. Not, entirely, she had a drive as a child neither came out of these conversations with her grandmother who wanted to be a star maker, right her mother and her aunt were both child actors and models. So there was this force in her life and her grandmother that was pushing her to be the next Marilyn Monroe and Paris, really responded to that. So that drive was there the form it took. was definitely. Shaped by this trauma and the pathology of her drive, which doesn't always follow reason. was shaped by that trauma in my mind. Oh, and she really got off on the funding attention. The endless love from total strangers. Yes. There's a huge hit to it. Right we all get it. When we just get somebody to like one of our little vacation photos on our cell phones, she gets it from hundreds of thousands of people, and she still has masses of fans around the world and is she addicted to that? See of likes? Yes. Does it lead to a sort of a narcissistic trap? Yes. She is really trying to think about those things now it doesn't mean she's free of them. It just means she's noticing that it is a kind of a sickness. Sometimes everyone says I'm the original lines are. Sometimes I feel like. A help create them on Sir the reason I was so interested in this film is because I think so many of us now have to manufacturer feel like we have to manufacture a second identity online and to some small extent have that second persona function is us out in the world and what does that mean for all of us as we go out and try and have meaningful relationships of course, it trips us up sometimes for Paris is catastrophic and taking on the role as a spokesman for this group of what they call themselves survivors of the Utah Archipelago. To redeem perhaps, a life of superficiality. People kind of my feet that I may have set that up. But when I was trying to just as journalists verify what she was telling me, she asked me to find her roommate Jessica because she remembered actually creating the Paris Hilton character with her they had a name for her back in the day she was called fee decoy and she was this ridiculous over the top sparkly character and Paris said to me find. Jessica and so that's how actually began going back and finding all of these survivors but it was coming from Paris and I will tell you something else since filming has ended Paris has been very involved talking to different senators about what they can do with breaking put silence gathering this Group of survivor she's already plugged into making sure that their movement continues. So she's driving it still. So to me, that is really genuine. Did you as a filmmaker known? From. The outset that this story is much more complicated and Paris Hilton is even victim. The reason that I understood that this trauma was there in her and that there was a pass to finding out is a strange one and it has to do with my own sister who is institutionalized as a kid who was extremely beautiful who was. Scandalous and who was nearly broken by an institution that wasn't too different from Provo Canyon school where Paris went and I think that's part of what drew me to this foam because I I saw that with my sister, these very powerful young women that are a little bit out, of Control. They scare us on this level that almost doesn't make any sense. and. I saw my sister be broken by this institution. She went to Paris was broken in the same way and I I just wanted to look at that. Why do we do that? Is it because we want to save them and keep them pure or we want to keep them safe what is it and are we breaking people who could be extraordinarily powerful? If they were. To be who they are. It occurs to me now that at the very beginning of film, we hear her saying that she is astonished about her own transformation during the making of the film itself. Is it possible that actually did begin? It's a sort of cynical manipulative exercise of. Rebranding and turned out to be a transformational. For Paris having to relive the trauma and. Begin to get a grip on how it had informed her life. Yeah. I mean certainly that's what I saw. And you know what? It changed me too because I went through a lot as a child what I realized this. Therapy because she had actually been abused by therapists at the school she went to. So therapy was part of her PTSD. and. What I think you see in this film is a woman going through therapy and the reason that she's able to do it with me is because I went through something similar as a kid. I think we're both kind of finding our way back to what happened to us and looking at a world where that happened in asking questions about it. I think what happens in this film is very unusual. and to me, it's up very real. Well, I must say I feel better about her as figuring American twenty-first-century history but I didn't leave the film with any sense that she's going to be okay. Is Paris Hilton GonNa be. Okay. Yeah. I I didn't want to answer that for the viewer at the end of the phone because I really didn't know. And I still don't know if she'll find the strength to leave the brand behind. Will you know what you astro? That has a very direct question. Can you in the brand have a divorce now? No. It'd be an expensive divorce. She she's a lot of contracts. You know she does that brand a lot. It's a two way street. I don't know what happens next I will say I've been really impressed at. Her drive to keep this movement to close the schools. Her drive is his only intensified since the phone came out. And that to me is a sign. That she maybe. Okay. Alex, thank you so much. Thank you. Alexandra Dean is the director of. Is Paris. Coming up reality shows are ludicrously. Be Seriously Education. This is on the media. This is on the media. I'm Bob Garfield and I'm Brooke Gladstone it's almost a cliche of think peace journalism nowadays to point out that much of the vivid unreality of the trump era stems from the fact that the president is himself a reality TV character it seems to say everything about his tendency to as they say, go low in his pitches to the so-called unwashed masses his reality TV past is a perfect. Metaphor for the tawdry present at least for pundits who almost invariably hate reality TV but TM producer Zander ellena spent years following the genre especially one subset of the genre, and lately she's discovered that reality dating shows may offer us some deeper truths. If we're willing to look for them I'm excited to share with a national listenership that I have spent the past six months in my apartment falling deeply madly in love. With reality dating shows your perfect match is here. And it's your job to figure out who idiots. With three months to find out as much as I can about their daughter. This is dating naked. Certain shows have helped me navigate this challenging moment gear will choose someone to marry. Without ever seeing them. Love is blind which premiered in February on netflix followed a group of singles who agree to marry people based on personality alone it was an incredibly ambitious matchmaking experiment. After the pandemic lockdown at also became a youthful guide to navigating a disembodied kind of romance. Same thing goes for another NETFLIX's scorcher too hot to handle in which hot people spend a summer trying not to touch each other. There are conditions to your stay here. You will have to abstain from sexual practices for the entirety of your stay. And rounding out my corona virus, reality dating Trifecta Love Island USA on CBS which filmed over the summer and airs seven nights a week and is not set on an island but on a rooftop in Vegas, that producers have promised is routinely disinfected. So by now, you guys have all been in quarantine for weeks, covid tested multiple times, and you guys are all finally ready to jump into the safe waters of Love Island. Hand denic be damned. We see that reality dating can overcome virtually any obstacle but after devoting more than ten years of my life to the reality genre. I began to wonder if these shoes offered more than simple comfort. After many months of incessant viewing now I know. I admit that some listeners may find it peculiar to be expanding public radio airtime on programming. So low brow, but I suspect that the reflects to condemn or dismiss is based on the fact that the cultural conversation around reality TV is specially, the dating shows is almost entirely by the very people who hate it. The negative story about Reality Television as trash as causing on the end of good taste. Those are the most dominant voices that we that's an NFL a professor of media and Communication Studies at Lund University in Sweden. She's been writing about reality TV for a long time and she calls these critics the ones policing the terms of this particular conversation reality. Refuseniks. Partial to the terms, haters, losers and snobs teach around they been around since the very beginning of the genre a never watch reality television is nothing you can learn from it and he should be ashamed of watching that kind of car crash television not everything that we consume has to be difficult. Claire Fallon Huffington, Post, culture, critic, and Co host of the podcast here to make friends with huffpost senior reporter and a gray in which they quote lovingly snark on the Bachelor and Bachelor adjacent shows they were team they apply feminist theory to their recaps ending each podcast with a list of feminism fails just recap we have Colton asking four different fathers for their specific fatherly permission to propose. To their daughters as we discussed, this is a relic of a system in which women were treated as Chattel. How do they respond to the refusenik discourse? I think that there's a lot of sexism in in the way that we look at reality TV similar to soap operas that we disdain things that women find pleasurable. There is a soft part of all of us the very human part of all of us that desires love and connection and reality shows are sort of game. Fine of those very human instincts according to a morning concert Hollywood reporter poll from Twenty Teen Reality TV had the lowest net fever ability of any television genre, but it's viewership remains high hundreds of millions and grow. I mean look there have been plenty of words written about these shows potentially harmful impact on society. But taking genres seriously does not mean denying its problems I'm prepared to argue that there are lessons useful. Sometimes challenging lessons we can learn from reality dating shows. Here's one reality dating shows reflects the most normative cultural understanding of the politics of romance at a very particular moment net hill. It's meant to be consumed enjoyed meant to be moved by it, and then you meant to throw it away like an old polaroid you find at the back of a drawer in a childhood dresser issues capture fleeting moment nostalgia tinged. slightly. Kranji consider the old favorite flavor of love VH1's mid Celeb- reality dating show starring public enemy hype man flavor flav sometimes flav gets lonely. So here's what I'm going to. Take twenty girls and I'm going to put him to test. I'll go see Wenchuan these girls love flava. Flav the best. I mean flea literally gives all the women a nickname because he doesn't plan to remember any of their names. It's text that just screams two thousand six from the low rise distress jeans to the heavy black eyeliner to the slang seem goose for another show that came out around that time MTV's next. No one of a notice that this girl is good personality. Or recall the two thousand, three series average Joe in which NBC gets a former NFL cheerleader today data co ward of really average guys just. because. They are outraged Joe's. and. They don't look or act like any of the eligible bachelors. On TV truly difficult to watch, but it is my solemn duty to do so. Because since they age so poorly by design reality dating shoes are rich cultural artifact. You look at the Bachelorette's the Fun House version of messages were all receiving all the time half post Claire. Fallon that does make it in some ways a great opportunity to notice those messages that were receiving and to unpack them besides reflecting the cultural values of the day. These shoes also depict pretty explicitly who the show deems entitled to the Romantic Fairytale. Welcome back to this exciting new season of the bachelor. In the twenty odd years since it launched, the bachelor franchise remains one of Genres, biggest juggernauts, not the first reality dating show. But in many ways, the urge taxed of the genre, every season is basically identical in eligible bachelor or bachelorette dates giver take thirty clawing Louis, Ernest, suitors, all the same time. Each week the leading manner woman narrows the pack down to the final the only one. We US rows. Thank you. The ultimate goal is simple forever love but I'm certainly not the first to observe that love on the bachelor isn't for everyone. Emigre. Those people tend to be white able bodied. Straight sized heterosexual. I think that there is this very clear sort of white Cinderella ask vision and those are the people that a franchise like the Bachelor has decided are the most worthy of love the franchise has spent years under the gun over this issue until the June when the black lives matter protests blatant resistance to racial diversity in fashionable for a moment at least, and they finally capitulated to the longtime demands of viewers. Black Man will leave the franchise choosing twenty-eight-year-old Match James. Originally cast as a suitor on Bass, the bachelor franchise has had one just one non white lead in it's almost two decade history that was in two thousand seventeen when Rachel Lindsay was named the Bachelorette. I'm sweet I'm also sour. Sassy, yet classy. We were hoping that since we had a black Bachelorette lead that we would continue to have casting just as diverse as she is jazzy collins was a casting producer on five seasons of the Bachelor and the Bachelorette starting with Rachel Lindsay season as a black woman herself, she was committed to opening the franchise to a wider array of love interests I. Think it's really important that everyone that's watching a reality television show should have the opportunity to see themselves in that show, but she didn't get to choose how the people she cast were represented. Once you put these types of people on television producers on the other end are enforcing these stereotypes. How you edit these people and how you're showcasing these people is what the world is seeing. So reality dating shows not only portray our cultural conventions they also police them. That's one of the genre's big lessons. Here's another. This one's a little tricky. So to illustrate this point, I, want to tell you about one of the dumbest things I've ever witnessed on the bachelor we in the community colored champagne. Gate. Let me set the scene Peter Webber Ak Pilot Pete the twenty four, th bachelor whose distinguishing characteristic is that he flies airplanes is that the very beginning of his process excuse me his journey of finding a mate. He pulls one contender Hannah an aside for a conversation they stumble across a bottle of champagne pop it open. Little did they know that another contestant Kelsey had logged this ferry bottle from her hometown to the Bachelor mansion to drink with Peter I'm excited to share bottle champagne with him that I've been saving for really special moment after she discovers what happened Kelsey Confronts Hannah An. Hey, I have to see something. It's not okay what you did I brought this bottle from Des Moines. Don't don't try to play di- didn't know. I didn't. The fear over the calamitous uncorking champagne weather. Hannah, and is there is not a snake whether Kelsey is justly offended or just being dramatic last not for five minutes. This arguments spends two two hour episodes. So, why bring this up? Because perfectly illustrates the glorious balance between the genuine and the dramatize. When you watch a lot of reality dating shows, you get comfortable in the. Space between fact and fiction you're, and he's with the fact that Kelsey real person in the real world experiencing real emotions and at the same time you know that her narrative arc is constructed and added. Sweet. Viewers are always lambasted with the idea that what they love is fake. But I argued that we are not bamboozled. We know here's emigre on her podcast discussing champagne gate. It is just like the most obvious setup I've ever seen on this show production like, yeah. There's a a real romantic bottle champagne for you somewhere. Maybe, walk around that way you got to class reality dating show viewers are forensic in their analysis of these characters. They interrogate what they've seen argue about it with friends, family and strangers, and the real people who populate these shows way in they have a real social media presence, they make podcasts and right bestsellers about the real experiences. The show doesn't end when ends. Clara Fallon it does become an away a tool for understanding you can't know everything about another person. You don't know what played into their behavior on a certain day. You know we have a biased version presented us and we have to try to decode what's actually going on. But that is the challenge is like how do you make judgments that are productive and also recognize people seem entity and that's all just the way that we all have to go about the world's not having all the information but still having to try to make choices as we heard in Bob Center view no one knows that better than Paris Hilton I feel like the whole world thinks they know me. Knowing really knows who I am. It's worth recalling that Hilton had her own variation of a reality dating show MTV's two thousand, eight venture my new bff in which contestants competed for Paris's platonic love following the heiresses very public break up with longtime best friend, Nicole Richie I can have a boy. took her. Girl Story. Many were dumbstruck by the portrait painted, of Paris, in the new documentary shocked by how thoroughly the real person differed from the ditsy Glam girl she portrayed. But I wasn't. I was conditioned by reality dating shows to approach stories like hers understanding that I'm being supplied with just a partial rendering of human life. They've taught me that life in the public eye is all about wearing a mask whether it's self imposed or crafted by producer for dramatic effect. And if you wash these shows closely enough and often enough, you will find clues about how to assemble that Jigsaw puzzle that makes a human being by giving us practice in suspending judgement or even extending empathy to the unrelatable. Because like Emma said, we're all just out here searching for the same thing. Love. On, the media I'm Sandra Ellen. This week show on the media's produced by Lana Casanova Burgess Michael Laya fetter John Hanrahan Sandra, and Ellis Blonde do. And our show was edited. By Brooke, Happier is our executive producer on the media is the production of WNYC studios. I'm Brooke. Gladstone Bob Garfield. This year has turned out very differently than many athletes thought it would be since the season is canceled they don't feel as though they their. Salary what am I gonNa do how are we going to the football? Football. Football. I mean a sale host of the podcast death sex and money in our new series game changer. We're talking to three athletes about how the pan-demic has upended their lives and livelihoods listened wherever you get your podcasts.

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Part 2: Todays News, plus All Balls All Sports with Danny Cortenraede (ACS Oct 2)

The Adam Carolla Show

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Part 2: Todays News, plus All Balls All Sports with Danny Cortenraede (ACS Oct 2)

"Thanks for listening to the Adam Corolla show. On podcast one. For All you fools out there, I'm UNWRAPPING McDonnell steak egg and cheese. Bagel who look at this steak and juice randomest cy go a little bit on rapper here And then a fluffy egg and rail cheese folded oversaw looking just so good. grilled onions on about a Bagel. Two thumbs up from McDonnell steak egg and cheese Bagel for breakfast love it. More Baba. Participating McDonald's well, we got news and then we got all balls, all sports Danny, Coordin- read who you you'll be Interested to hear about very interesting story we'll get into that second I I'll tell you about the bed online football. It's back everyone and You want to get in on some of the action make this weekend's matchups a little more exciting about Vikings, Texans steelers, titans bills at raiders. It's going to be good game patriots, chiefs I like that game. That's GonNa be fun to watch chargers buccaneers another good one eagles at forty niners more options to wager than anywhere online from spreads and totals to prop get in on season opening bonuses wager on division and championship futures as well. Head to bet online today. Of all the great sign up bonuses, all you do is visit bet online dot h. e. r. exclusive partner podcasts One don't forget Promo Code podcast one for your sign up bonus today bet online your online sportsbook experts. With. Gino. Breaks. All those crazy trump tweets. G. Grad. Drop. Downs even genius. The news with gene a Grad. Let's start out with some celebrity lawsuits. Shall we a former bodyguard has accused Kris Jenner of sexual harassment Martin I don't know if you saw this on tmz Adam Martin Williams have not. You'll scoop them Mark Williams is suing the Mama Jer claiming she was subject to our he was subject to a pattern of unwanted and unwelcome sexual. Advances while working for Kris Jenner and Courtney Kardashian according to court documents obtained by US weekly Chris made comments of an overt sexual nature toward him allegedly commenting on his physical appearance asking about his sex life and suggesting they engage in a romantic and sexual relationship. He's sixty four. He claims that Jenner demonstrated nonconsensual physical contact with him and her attorney denies the allegations. You know the problem with how we're living in when we're living as. You couldn't under the under the guidelines that we've sort of put in place you can't. It would all be technically correct. There's no such thing as those kinds of people spending long time together. Versus I like the guy would say on a Friday when he's leaving gotta hot date this weekend and she'd go knock yourself out and then when he comes in on Monday, she's got to go. To go you know and then and then she'll say something like I noticed you look like you've been working out must be because of this or whatever it is, and it would just keep going and if you read the transcript of all fall under the heading of sexual harassment whatever the rally is. Somebody has a Shitload of money. The other person doesn't the comments made back and forth I'll guarantee this guy laughed at everything that was said probably never felt threatened and if you just think about any of those conversations that used to take place in the office, for instance, they would all fall under the heading of this and now it's like well. It's all technically true. You know she did comment on his appearance more than once it's all that shit I mean. You people comment on your parents constantly on this show I think Jay more. Did it did it yesterday like it? It's a you know I was thinking about thinking about all this fucking FA cocked A. Sensitivity training and all the racial sensitivity training and all the sexual sensitivity training that the fortune five hundred companies have to endure, and then I started thinking. So are we having less lawsuits now now that everyone has been through the training when it'd be lodge like let's just say. Let's say the subject was. CPR. A let let's just say we got rid of all this fucking bullshit sensitivity training and all the bullshit sexual harassment training that all these companies have to go throw now even though they don't care but they have to check the box for insurance. For insurance reasons if you took all that training and we said. We'll take it and we'll just make it emergency medical attention how to do a tourniquet, how to do chest compressions, how to do fire training and Bubba well, then twenty years later, you would see less deaths at the workplace because more people knew how to apply these techniques when they're co worker choked ham sandwich or had a heart attack or whatever. This is more lawsuits since the training began since all this indoctrination came about we now have more lawsuits explain that it would be like with all the CPR training I would sit there go I didn't realize that time I was eating I was choking right while there's laws So we're GONNA throw. Santa effect where I imagine it has to be a certain percentage of people are like. In, these trainings back in the day like Oh that's dot sexual harassment. That's what I mean like. Just giving them ideas it just saying. Essentially. Okay. Anyone who says anything that's unwanted at the point where you can't ask people where they're from, you know not in the sexual, but this is the racial stuff like if somebody has an accent, you can't ask them where they're from. It's all. It's just a it's a fucking cottage industry. It's not a move towards fixing anything and it never it never helps. It always just fucking ends up going in the wrong direction and now. I'm plus anyone who has money's eventually going to get sued by their body guard or their mate or their nanny or whatever. That's. Because it's impossible according to the guidelines to have that kind of relationship that's intimate with somebody literally your bodyguard without them overhearing things without them. By the way they're going to be in the limousine after the girls go out drinking and climbing limousine because you guys went down to know boo on pch and he had a bunch of cocktails in the all get back in the car and whatever you six-year-old year old chicks were talking about with the one dude sitting in the back of the stretch limo with you and your body's you don't think something's GonNa come out a little inappropriate there. Yeah, and I get. I I know this is the third rail all of a sudden, which is we're in a new era but we you mentioned a word earlier that sort of lit something of my brain. You said, he probably didn't feel threatened. When you know when when it's the other way around and like someone's big and lumbering and you kind of cornered or whatever of course, you feel threatened what are the chances that he felt physically or emotionally threatened? Well, okay. Jenner and Courtney Kardashian he first off with the Great. Bodyguard. The Great Kevin Costner forever felt threatened by Whitney Houston number one number two then you're in the wrong fucking profession if you can't handle a little threat or little aggression especially, if it's invisible blah nothing worse than a Posey is there. Is there anything worse than a pussy? This guy's obviously fucking huge posting aright good. He's done so he'll get paid out and They'll give him. That's just retirement flint. That's his retirement plan. Well, you know I was GonNa follow this up with another. Something in the same vein, but we've been over it essentially Paris Hilton is really doubling down on her efforts to get this. Provo Canyon school shutdown even though they're under new management, it's not the same people that were there when she was there but she's banded together with a lot of former students will say and just just. So we know the schools described as an intensive psychiatric youth residential treatment center because remember, we don't say reform school anymore Roy. And she talks about that in her doc. So she even though they're under new management, she wants the Provo Canyon school to pay for their own. Maybe the ground is haunted like a Indian burial ground. Out To only pros only forty five minutes South Salt Lake. Swing by take sites I should swing by what side of the arches that on Chris is at the. Drive through the. Do we. Drive through it. Find Out yeah. We should go over there and just do a little surprise spot-check check. Yeah. My my feeling with places like that or share to like. There's real problems I mean. You're go outside A. Paris Hilton lives in Los Angeles walk out your front door. See a bunch of people humanity flopped out on the sidewalk shooting up and vomiting on themselves and go. Well at least the kids at that school got better than they do. Yeah you're right and that just reminded me I said this to Chris I, think yesterday. Chris. If you have that tweet that I sent, you somebody sent this to us at the Conway show and I thought Oh no, I mean even though Tim would appreciate you director this to the wrong person somebody tweeted me last night that said a friend texted this to me tonight she works in property management and this is the tweet and I think you have it as well but it says Omg I just got off zoom meeting with the guys from City Council Ruse Office Andrew whatever his name is an lapd regarding the homeless problem and you've lost your mind they basically said learned their names and welcome them into your community. I was. Talking to many Matt Good Matt, some people Mez Mattie. Andrea from our car cash show, and he was jogging. And he was talking to me while he was jogging and while he's talking to me, he lives in Venice he was jogging goes. Got Across the street I'm coming up on a homeless encampment meaning they taken up the whole sidewalk, a Nampa sir. You have to go out in the street. Yeah I they don't even take tour buses to Venice anymore. The thing about Venice is the same thing about schools things about La same thing about anything. If in fact, you do not want to manage a problem it shall then grow it is no different than Ivy. You may have ivy on the side of your house or the wall of the Trellis or whatever but you must go out in manage it, and if you just sorta go fuck it, it'll take care of itself or don't be mean to the Ivy thin it's got a girl it's just GonNa go it's just nature. You know we look at this as sort of humans it's really just nature. This is humanity it's nature. It's a bunch of people who need psychiatric help. It's a bunch of people who have addictions and. This notion that we still argue about this sort of problem look. Well, it's it's. Housing low cost housing apartments are too expensive. The rents too expensive. This notion that there's some correlation between the physical home and crazy people shooting up on the sidewalk. The fact that that's about all we got out of the experts seems criminally negligent to me the the amount I mean sometimes they go well many or addicted many have. Preexisting emotional condition. Yeah. But substitute the word many for fucking all and who do you know is of sound mind sound body who's physically out of a job that's just flopping on the floor. It's all fucking drugs. It's all schizophrenia. It's insane that we can't even categorize it. Now these are homeless people are well, they need a home. No, that's not why they're homeless. They're mentally insane and they're on drugs the. CR- Matt tells me all times. They just pull up campers. They just do drugs on the side of this deal drugs out of the campers like it's a fucking shit show it's not gonNA fix itself. You have to fix it and the way you fix it, you become an adult and you actually go. You have to govern. You have to go in and go. This is unacceptable. Sorry and at some point the ACLU's GonNa go you can't make those people leave the park and you go fuck you and you move them. That's how it works or you step back you turn a blind eye and it just grows it just grows and then eventually people can't walk I mean. How Rip Shit would you be view out of house in Venice and there's just a fucking camper parked in front of your house and the Guy Stealing drugs. Your kids that walk down to the Corner Walk to school i. It can go no other way. There is no fix for. There's no grant or affordable housing grant or new facility. We're there's nothing you can do. You have to go enforce the laws and you have to address it or this, and that's what we have. We don't have a mayor in in in Los Angeles who wants to. Like here's all things New York was falling apart. Giuliani came anyone fuck it. We're going to stop people. We're GONNA. FRISK GUM WE'RE GONNA, ask him where they're going and then everyone got their panties in a bunch and then when you can't stop people and just ask them where they're going or whatever, and it's like. Well. Okay but there's only one direct route to fixing this problem whether it's crime or homelessness you have to do something and along the way when you do those things, you're going to inevitably cross a few lines hurt feelings stopped some innocent people ask them questions frisk some innocent teens of course it's GonNa happen it can't not happen but there's only one direct report to fixing this and that's it. We don't really govern here, per se unless it has to do with automobiles and then we overcome we just step back, step back and let nature take its course. It's just nature. It's exactly what it is just moved to the places that are hospitable. Vanessa's hospitable climates good. The the you know the the. The government is good if that's what you WanNa do, and that's what you do well, and it's like just to tie this into the beginning of the show about your motor in about discipline for micro and macro. It's the path of least resistance. We all gravitate toward it everyone would do what you have to do as long as someone sorry most people will do what they want to do given the chance to do it I that's that's most people unfortunately. That's when the society kicks in and the rules kick in and the regulations kick in and UNF-. Unfortunately, we have to enforce those roles and we do a lot of it here for. Permits and parking. You know think about how good everyone is with parking think about a wear you are parking rights always looked the mission events right but so you you make something important I. Give me an example like. Driving in the Diamond Lane it's you know three hundred, seventy, five dollar fine. They really enforce the shit out of it because I see him enforcing it and they know. When the peak traffic times are and so look at this way, you'll be driving home, I'll be driving home from the studio. All four lanes will be packed and there'll be a wide open lane for the Diamond Lane Wide Open and everyone many people will be in the lane right next to the diamond lane crawling forward nine miles an hour with a wide open diamond lane. But yet not many takers not many people venture into that lane and almost none in the stretch I'm on. So why not? Why don't they showed? They're. Not Worth of ice the dice roll does this everyone WanNa do it yes. Everyone wants to do it. WHO Doesn't? Well, it's three, hundred, seventy, five bucks and they're on it because they know you want to do it. All right. So it works at least enforcement of the Diamond Lane works people could argue the sanity of having an open lane with nobody in it in the middle of traffic. But okay that works on the other hand what if they didn't enforce the diamond line? We wouldn't have. Elaine just everyone is just immediately pile into it. That's that's how people work. That's how citizens work. Sadly. So you'll let him park the RV out in front of the house in Venice and they'll live there rent free. I let me hit Geico, and then we'll do one more Gina Grad gyco right now, GEICO's offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car motorcycle RV policies. That's fifteen percent on top. The money GEICO could already be saving you. So what are you waiting for get going man with Geico's never been a better time to switch then now save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by Tober seventh visit GEICO DOT COM to learn more today. All right. One More Gina Grad okay. Well, in terms of enforcing and. A vinnie being on the show, this might be an interesting one. In case you haven't heard Mexico has one of the highest rates of obesity related death in the world and one third of Mexican children are categorized as obese. So in an effort to combat two Mexican states have banned the sale of junk food to minors. So no one under eighteen can buy chips. Candy are processed food from supermarkets and convenience, and the cartels got one more fucking thing. They can now deal in Cheetahs like what are you guys do? We do prostitution? We do narcotics we do gambling. We do a contract killing and then we do Nila waivers. Bars. Shows many other states are moving toward this as well in Mexico. Well, it is interesting that the. vinnie related. The Mexican died is so much rice and beans Tortilla like it's so fucking starchy like it's so insanely starchy that every time like you think Beans like now you shouldn't be eating all those beans. I can think of beans as good. That's got a lot a lot of carbon it. There's tortillas with every meal has three Tortillas, rice and beans every meal and it's like, yeah, and they down with the yogurt they like to be in the beans they are. Savory culture. and. Don't get me going on Hor Chata. So yeah, I'm not I'm not I'm not surprised at all. and. It's fucking. It's practically free like I mean you can get off you go get like a fifty pack of Tortillas for like a buck sixty, nine, I mean it is a is a four inches high five inches around corn tortillas. You get a brick of us. Fifty of them in there it's like it's fucking free so. That will that may or may not end up being addressed in the future but at least they can tackle the talkies Doritos and candy. Well, it'll be interesting. It'll be a little interesting experiment to see if they can make this one work or what effect it has like if they can pull it off if they can enforce it, and then what the weights of these kids are like in five years because. Hey. If it's effective, I'm not. I'm not so libertarian that I'm like free everything free do whatever you want have whatever you want if if it if we got a bunch of obese kids and it's costing us because of their medical stuff as a society then. Then society does get a vote on what your kids eat. All right. Let's bring it Home Gina Grant you got it. I'm Gina. Grad and that's the news. That was the news with Gene Grad. Last but not least, we got simply save just fifteen seconds for friends at simply safe protect your home. Do it today get free shipping at simplisafe dot com slash Adam Alright we're gonNA say by to Gina and Bald Bryan. We'll see you guys at Salt Lake City coming up we'll tape in those shows. So we got live shows coming as well. Probably a few tickets left for the early show and for me and mark arrogance is. We're doing a matinee show four o'clock a reasonable doubts that come check that out Danny Coordin- raid is an amazing Soccer Marketing Guru, an entrepreneur of. Just one of the most impressive guys you ever GonNa meet. So we're gonNA talk to him. We'll talk to CESARIO. We'll do the sports right after this. It's time to break down the game film and look at the XS and os the Cao's and the Ono's from the world of sports. Bed Online presents all balls. All Sports. Day It's time for bed. Online Guests Share Today serial entrepreneur managing partner at. Four thirty three big digital media firms is determined to blow up soccer in America. Danny Corcoran a Danny, you've met the ace man sitting right next to how I today I'm doing great. Pull your mic. Good yeah that's. A where are you from Danny? I'm originally I'm from him students from Europe and I moved from Europe to New York City two years ago and now living for three months in La. So I was talking to Mike August two books the show whose dads of Football American football coach he played football I played American football we love football but he was saying. Football's kind of dying in its dying like boxing is dying in the sense that people just don't want their kids to suffer that kind of trauma and. I get it like all the all the negatives head trauma joint work on all kinds of stuff, and so he's like. I think soccer is going to be the wave of the future. Now, this country tried soccer with Palin a lot of that stuff like in the seventies and didn't really take and then kind of came back and it got some momentum with the Olympics and such. So it has it's a little peaks and it. POPS UP AND GETS HOT FOR TEN MINUTES. Can somebody that we like somebody charismatic comes to the fore and then if of kind of drift dips down again, what what is, how would you approach soccer in this continent? Yeah Greg Question. So in Europe soccer is is us it's the biggest ports right now year in the United States is also main reason why I moved. So four trees the biggest sucker community in the world with fifty million followers right? We see a big opportunity here the kits already playing soccer from a young h right and you see also within the MLS is growing so yeah, the. Obviously, everyone wants their kid to get exercise. No one wants their kid to have brain damage of soccer seems like a pretty good way to do that. Europe is weird like we're weird 'cause. F, one is huge in Europe I. Love car racing I love F. One it bothers me that NASCAR is so much bigger than F one here but I do feel like F. One is. Growing here as well, and is there some core Larry soccer and F one growing in the United States? I love raising to be honest I saw all the things the racing cars here I did raise inform young age go guarding. So also really interesting conversation. Yeah I, really love racing and also go to the Formula One in Bellshill and Monaco all those things. So that's also really interesting. If you're walk one hundred feet from here after the show I'll show you about your race cars if everything yeah. Definitely wants to see them. Yeah. I. Love It. So there is thing. Yeah. SO NASCAR is big. Is Big in Europe and again I think we see a big opportunity with soccer here. If you look at the number. So NFL sixty, billion revenue. MLS now one billion. So it's still a big gap but if you see in two thousand, seven, Toronto FC was bought for ten million if you. Now, if you not want to buy a franchise in the MLS, it's three, hundred, twenty, five, million. So you see it's growing fast. Yeah. Well, a real good yardstick to measure the growth of a sport is just how much is a franchise? It's pretty it's a pretty straightforward way to judge how popular sport is. A friend of mine's company Construction Company built the Soccer Facility Stadium. That's right by the Coliseum. Have you been out to that one? Jeff have you seen that one? I have not yet know MCI it's it's beautiful. It's you know it's not as big as a coliseum. Obviously, it's probably maybe twenty thousand I think right? Did the chargers play that? No, I'm not sure if the chargers played there the first season now there were somewhere else I've made that down at home with the old home, right? Right. This is kind of that. I don't even know who our hometown soccer team is put through. They play there and you know what I'm talking about that facility. That's right off the coliseum and to be honest no but it there there's so much going on. So they building. So don't actually die building to be. Honest. But, again, they are playing well now in the end, the World Cup is coming I think that's also super important. Topic is America was always I always describe this well, Jeff like this because. He's a media. But I I would always say like when people would say I'd say y you live. You live in Los Angeles everyone's a horrible driver in Los. Angeles and they say why why? Why? Why not go because everyone here is from another place and their grandparents didn't drive. They wrote a donkey and now there's a first generation second generation. It's not in the blood and then I'd say we have the best athletes in the world. Why can't we win soccer an international level and they'd say because we didn't grow up playing soccer it was sort of the same argument it even though we could do it we didn't grow up with it well now it's been long enough I would say that we're now going to have a bunch of kids growing up with soccer right? Sure. And then the game changes if you watch. A from fifteen years ago you'll see a completely different sport because they didn't grow up with 'em a they grew up wrestling and boxing, and where they're having a cobble them together like saying, well, this guy grew up playing football American football or baseball number have to teach him soccer but. Now, there's a generation where they just grew up with it, and that's the skill levels greater right? One, hundred percent I think that's a super important thing if I talked with the people in the United States, all of their kids, the playing soccer. So I think that's a super bowl thing and don't forget the women they achieved already the woke up right. So they playing on a fairly good. Well, maybe gets back to my hypotheses, which is the women got better at it faster because the women started playing soccer, where's the men were still playing American football and baseball and others other of Predominant Sports, women. Probably A. More women twenty years ago probably played soccer in high school than than men did was it was more predominant. So where the World, Cup common where twenty, twenty, twenty six is too all coming the woke up coming. So and this is the moment you need to be now here in the United States preparing all things and be there as a company. So that's also reason why we here. With four, three three. So again, that's the biggest sucker community we work closely with me that's an official partner. Ella Galaxy from here. So L. AFC but also the clubs in Europe? So Super Celona. Real Madrid PSG, and we work with them to see. Okay. How can we help and leverage on network? So we have one billion views per week on this journal. Of Soccer. Yeah Yeah. It's it's still the biggest sports in the world. Do you think that soccer from trying to draw a parallel between soccer and F one being so huge worldwide, but in Europe and then football American football and NASCAR The Europeans, I think of I see everything through the lens of an automotive manufacturer and we like big American muscle. In your face throwing ravs ow vin diesel doing a doughnut and the center. You know burn out Ville because it's got in it and the Europeans are finesse oriented and to me there's a correlation there there's a, there's f. one is much more finesse version of racing in Nascar just like bump draft and get up this guy's ass and spin them out bang into them. I mean NASCAR's have steel wheels with five lugs on it F One didn't have steel wheels with five logs for seventy years like the technology the finesse. and soccer is much as it can bore me at times. It's a finesse it's much more finesse rather than earl. Campbell's put his. Putting his head, the crown of his head into your sternum and just running you over. Do you think it's a finesse thing? Yeah one on the percent I. Think you make I like how you make the. Picture. Yeah. Yeah. I just seeing the pictures here. So I really like whether you prefer to be honest the also just the question what I want to ask. Well, I'm weird because I love I like F. One in road racing I, like the Finesse I love the goodwood festival that all the all the stuff in. Europe I love the European road racing stuff as a matter of fact. Just just tell you just so you don't Fall Asleep Jeff when I made my when I made my doc, I made a documentary about Carroll Shelby and everyone knows Shelby Mustang and Shelby Cobra and stuff like that. But Shelby, who's a chicken farmer from Texas he went to Europe and he drove these European sports cars, the Maserati birdcage, these really lightweight little things and and Ferraris, and an Aston Martin and things like that, and they all had these small displacement engines but the had to make it up with lightweight handling agility and whatever, and so and because they had all these road courses, there wasn't just about going in an oval. and Shelby figured out that if he so we learned all about lightweight cars and breaking and handling, and that instead of just brute horsepower. But then he had the idea what have I take one of these lightweight little cars that handles well and breaks well in ill, go the direction I pointed and then I take this big fat American at lump engine I put it shoehorned into that. Then I'll have the best of all worlds that's what he did and that's why we know the guy's name today. So for me I like the violence of American football but I love the finesse of F one. So I'm sort of an international man that's. Good. That's great and to come back on your question. So. I think also one thing what's important. Then what's a big difference with soccer and if you look to the NFL or NBA They don't score much rides in NBA. There's so much action the whole time and you have so much points and with soccer yet you can get lucky if the it's treat zoo or whatever I saw is not that there is enough action but I think not if you compare with Mba your the NFL if you. All right. So you're Kinda saying in the NBA when the Lakers go up on the. Play Magic Nuggets Miami Heat Zara Media. Yeah, the heat. So like when they're up there up seventeen points with two and a half minutes left the heat's not coming back like they're just not going to this not GonNa win the game but in soccer if you're a goal or even to golden with a few minutes left, it's winnable. Yes I mean technically it's winnable. Jeff what. Let's see. Let me hit a let me hit bed online here, which is our sponsor finally wait is over football that's American football that is is back and There up. Let's see games coming up this weekend, Vikings Texans, steelers, titans, bills that raiders, chargers, buccaneers, patriots, chiefs, which I think that's going to be an interesting game eagles at forty niners more options to wage here than anywhere else online from spreads totals to props get in on season opening bonuses and Wager on divisional and championship futures head Tibet Online today take advantage of of all the great sign up bonuses just visit Bet Online Dot, ag our exclusive partner podcast one don't forget. Promo Code podcast one for your sign up bonus today. Bet Online your online sportsbook extra experts. I should say the other thing that's kind of interesting with soccer and. The United States, but especially, here in southern California is the demographic It's pretty heavily Latin out here and they love their soccer. So when I was growing up here, it was all Anglo pretty much and nobody cared about soccer. Then you have a bunch of people come here from a place that's really into soccer, and now it's fifty percent folks that are from a place that are into soccer. Now, you have this big market for soccer you must have thought of this one on the process not. For US especially, Latin America super important. So we tapping into market the people would in Latin America so passionate about soccer. So Las Week Ida compensation, for example, with the EP from Adidas to see, okay. What can we do and how can we give the new at leads also exposure on the channel talking with different leagues clubs so for us, it's super important this market and there's also one of the reasons why I am now here in La and tapping. Into markets yet I'm just launching this and you guys tell me if if if you can think of this young guys name, there was a young black fee. Nom. About three years ago came onto the soccer world and he was like incredibly young and he was a fee NAM and I haven't i. don't know what's happened to him. I haven't heard much from him. I. Don't know if he's still a fina and I can't think of this dudes name and. He I think he had one name and I think he wound up in the MLS somewhere and he may still be playing radio on Freddie. Freddie yeah I mean, was he fifteen? Freddy he's born in Eighty Nine The you is from the first time assigning with DC at age fourteen he was spoken as of the next Palay however failed to live up to expectations after leaving DC and became a journeyman. Here's a journeyman. I got I mean I thought the guy was fifteen ten minutes ago you telling me yeah. Tell me he's thirty one. I did not. I'm old man. So. Young guys fourteen that was back in May I think and it's like Nice thirty. One is a journeyman now is there? Is there a fee? NOM that? Is, there a young person that we think is going to be the next? You know Michael, Jordan of Soccer Palay of soccer or Rinaldo what's for Knowle's last name? Chris January Christian. Christian run all the next, Christian or Beckham. Person Coming as Rinaldo Still Rinaldo those still that good that dominant. Yeah. He is is. Is the best to get out of that's that's a good I think a lot of people. Okay. So you have messy right and Cristiano Renaldo that's those are the goats ride. So that's an interesting conversation. Also, if he asked that question on all our channel, you really debate about this topic and okay who's the best the news to the biggest player? I've just from my personal perspective but that's because I like this burden a lot, and again I'm from Amsterdam. So you have their eye exits that's klopp, and they really teach the children from a young age have a very good. Training Facility. So one of them is don't even the big east was a young guy played I, access now just playing Manchester City. Manchester. So that's that's a really good thing in my from our perspective. You know it's also kind of interesting jeff you should weigh in on this one which is. In Football American football. So many people have such promising careers and then they have an injury and they have a bad injury and some guys don't come back from those injuries you know and in soccer, it seems like those injuries are much fewer and far between. So these guys going on I. Mean There's guys in the NFL who dominated the league last year got injured and you don't hear about these guys anymore i. Yeah. Age will get you in soccer before injury most of the time. You just slow down at some point and there's nothing you can do about it as as great. A shape is a guy like Rinaldo stays in Neymar or any of these guys at some point you're thirty four and you done I, mean, there's a nineteen year old flying I for Chelsea and it's over So it's it's yeah that's very interesting and we do it Meyer the speed in the finesse in American football when a running back it's loose or when a receiver gets loose. So I think we have the capacity to do it, but we need it in. A setting that combines the violence it'll be interesting for me to see how you use Danny that incredible database to try to blow up soccer a little bit here. Clearly, you're peaking for twenty, twenty six. So you've got years to do it. What's the plan? You just are you posting things or you're gonNA try to you know Inter we've your database with some marketing or something I mean that's the one advantage have over what Adam was talking about earlier, which is we've been doing youth soccer for fifty years now and it still is not getting the traction and he'd hoped. What the advantage you have is a giant database high gonNA use your Greg Question. That's the things for us. Data is super important. That's the thing for us. So again, fifty million followers more FI- five, billion views per month. So more than one billion per week although all the data we collected and analyzed. So what we do on a daily basis, we post so much content on this channel all about soccer. And then analyze everything. So we working again to go to clubs but also with the Nike from his role Adidas Puma Hanukkah. And this is what this is what we collect and we'll use alternate in the United States to see. Okay. What can we do with the data? We have different channels instagram facebook twitter instagram is the biggest, but we will see what we can do is all collected data and to see, okay, what can we do in the end with? A measure everything and come up with campaigns. So are we have three different revenue models? The most important is really the branded content piece. So working together with with the brands. Then the e Comores angled. So we not talk with with Nike, that's already a partner for us for four years. So she gave what can we do with e commerce because they also can reach a niche people very passionate about soccer, and if you put something like a Jersey or shoes on the channel, then it will engaged and you can at the end you can sell. The products? So that's super important and the turret is high premium content. So for example, we now planning and campaign a documentary but Jonathan toews he's a player from galaxy and we will create content around his life and then put it on the chin. Well, we should definitely talk as we make documentaries about race car drivers. So yeah. So we make one about soccer player. If you've got a checkbook, we'll talk about that. Hey. Jeff you WANNA do WanNa do our our picks. Yeah let's do it. Let's Let's dive right into the bed online NFL pick 'em pool. Let's so far. Let's let's serve review the standings here why not? Because I'm tied for first Jim Beaver from podcast one sports net. These are all podcast one sports, net folks, Jim Beaver me, and Chris Mayer eight points shale. sonnen. The MMA dude seven points Adam you have six points you're tied with shack so you in good company. Six points but I think you may be able to make it up this week pretty good lineup of Games Indianapolis Colts at Chicago. I'm sorry Danny. This is blood and guts. Brutal American Football Indianapolis Bears bears getting to. At home. Though bears get into at home. To Colts against the colts the cults are pretty good with rivers. Now he's getting time. It's in the ball around a bears brought their quarterback off the bench he came in. He had a hit falls had a good game. I don't think he's going to have a good game. Now I I'm GonNa go with the colts. I'm going bears chargers at Tampa Bay Bucks Bucks giving seven and a half. So Bucks favored by seven and a half. Hour. Los. Angeles. Who played in one of our soccer stadiums a year and I'll go with the chargers just for the half I say they'll. They'll. They'll get beat by touchdown, but the hassle of get the win. I'm going bucks I think it's huge huge and they're at home. Big let's Go New England patriots the Kansas City chiefs chiefs favored by seven one touchdown over the Patriots. The chiefs looked unbeatable against the ravens on Monday night I. Think there's going to be a little let down and Cam Newton is playing lights out quarterback and I just can't bet against Bella check. So I'm GonNa go with the underdog I'm GONNA go with. The Patriots. I don't think mahomes knows how to take a week off I'm going chiefs and the embiid online super game buffalo bills at the vagus raiders raiders getting three bills favored by three, but it's in Las Vegas. So the Vegas, boys are at least sleeping in their own beds way. You know they both look pretty good. Obviously, the bills almost lost my rams last week. Questionable call at the end of the game. I like Chucky and the boys at home on their home turf I'm GonNa take the raiders in that game. Me To think, that's the first game we agreed on in the lineup that is your bet online NFL, pick 'em pool, and that's it I'm jeff search for all balls all sports. All balls all sports presented by Vet Online. Online's sportsbook expert. Well Danny can be found the website and I'll spell it out danny that's spelled the. Last Name C. O. R. T. and R., A. E. D. E. dot com is where you can go same with the. As well, and twitter as well Danny This has been fascinating if you WANNA go look at some. Race cars, we can take a walk. I'm in So until next time this Adam Corolla. For Danny Corden raid and Jeff's Zari owned Bulb Ryan and Gina Grad and Vinnie torture at saying. Mahala. The Adam Karol, show brought to you. 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Ep 332 | The Multi-Billion Dollar Troubled Teen Industry

The Chad Prather Show

44:10 min | 4 months ago

Ep 332 | The Multi-Billion Dollar Troubled Teen Industry

"Party time mother it is. Time for it stay. To. Stay. Horned. Where in the studio here Blaze Television Studios Studio twenty two, we often affectionately refer to it as the. Mothership. I bet you've never put that together. Have you. News it's party time mom this is the mother ship mother. I don't think you guys have ever made connected those dots. I don't think you did either until just now I don't I. Don't think you're right. You could be maybe SORTA right? The mothership, the party Tom Mothership that's right. Studio twenty two. CHANCE THE SOLAR GINGER RAPPER DR driving us deep into the Nether regions. The Nether regions we're GonNa talk about kids today a little bit. I've got some I got a thing we're working on a special when I say we I mean canned queen of the peons is working on a special with some. Bombshell information of stuff that's happening in this country right under your nose. And you won't believe it. We're GONNA talk a little bit about that today because we're we want to make sure that we do this thing right in the upcoming week or so candies are you doing good over there hanging in there you're doing well, hang in there. Is it weird when chances sitting over there beside you odd is it awkward? Trust his driving of the mothership I, trust him. Okay. Question my judgment that question your judgment to. Look at Herbert, the silent deer same face of shock. We had when a truck hit him in party foul pub, the party foul himself Steve Powell hanging out. Defending the police and The host of lock and Load Matlock defunding Democrats. Any funding. Defined the Democrats and defend the beliefs. I. Like you guys style. How you doing matlock. appraiser. That's good. Man We live to fight another day. Yeah I. Feel like a Superhero on this show me and twitter bird, my sidekick waterbird, of course. Twitter. Has Been a flame over the last few days with everything going on in our country. and. I people are insane. That's all I got to say people are absolutely insane and you're GonNa Tro Total I. Tell you some of the stuff that I've got here as rush would say in my formerly nicotine stained fingers. So Russell it, you've gotta roughly. There you go. Man I'm just I want off the planet at this point. I want off the planet. Okay. Here's a quick quiz question for you guys. If, you had to move candice. You'RE GONNA go I, pull that microphone over to you. If you had to move to another country tomorrow. You had to move to another country. Tomorrow. Which one would it be. Ready Kansas Yep and go to England so fast England. Okay you're all for Muslim. No go zones. I got I. Got You. Got You. ALL RIGHT PARTY FOUL Steve New Zealand newseum. Okay. You're all for liberalism I like that too gun. No gun rights. Matlock WanNa Bali you Bali. Okay. going. Warm. Water. Checks yeah well. Now, you've heard me talk about this before I'm GonNa. Tell you again because it's so important Cova nineteen hit is caused a lot of damage in a lot of areas of a lot of people's lives, but it's also potentially very dangerous for your home. The FBI is reported that since Corona virus hit CYBERCRIME is up seventy five percent and here's the thing it gets worse. If the cybercriminals are online, guess what else is online the title to your home it's kept online. Anybody can find people are going in and stealing your title title theft is everywhere cybercriminals. They find a title to your home. They forged your signature on a quit claim deed and refile as the new owner of your home and your off the title not belongs to them. They destroy about taking out loans against your home, steal the cash sticky with the payments and you don't even know that this has happened until you're starting to get late payments or foreclosure notices you don't WanNa get addicted from your own home because of home title theft. Well, beauty is home titled Lock Protect. Your home's legal title since your home is your most valuable asset, it's your safe haven you need to do what it takes to protect it and home title locks going to help you do. That by by putting virtual barrier around your home's title. In the instant, they detect any tampering online, they're going to work to shut it down. So first thing's first I want you to go to home title Loc Dot Com Register your address to see you're already a victim then want you to sign up using code, Chad for thirty free days of protection. That's Code Chad at home title. Loc Dot Com. We got a very interesting show for you today and you don't WanNa. Miss It. Hang tight. We're back and now at all WanNa, move to the country of Utah because I wanNA have a bunch of wives I can't manage the one I've got. Don't need anymore those newsy truth news Natalie. That's true. My Gosh. I'm going to end up on episode of Dateline. snapped. No kidding dude. Saying what snapped And they just had enough and Bam Bam. You remember that story back when my buddy cowboy bill. Bill Martin Comedian William Lee. Martin. He's going by these. he does the thing about. He, doesn't think about What was that girl murdered her husband who stabbed him like twenty eight times and then shot him in the head and then stabbed him like forty more like. Make. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. She killed him. He did. He is definitely go. I I want to say something because you teased what you're going to you in Kansas are working up This story is so interesting which is hearing all talk about it. Did you hear the one question that? Steve asked was. WHAT COUNTRY Whereas this happening while we were talking about here. This doesn't that doesn't I I'm having a hard time believing alive. That's for instance last week, we showed a clip of the guy who was speaking. He was obviously a foreigner and he was talking about harvesting ballots and all the ballots were sitting upon the deal and it was a project Veritas video. And Steve Goes what country is that? MINNESOTA MINNESOTA because we're starting to see things that used to just happen in other countries I mean in our own backyard I mean it was. In? Wisconsin I, mean you know. Ilan Omar's district up there. She's Wisconsin right that girl soda, the Minnesota that was right in the media was from. Another country well, she is from there. On the thing they're doing Chad. Is the ballot. Is Legal in California North Carolina. So you'd literally you could in California go and pick up and Take it to the pulse. You. Legally. And they're taking advantage of elderly. Of immigrants who don't speak the language who have an assimilated. Similar like party foul similarly later but they're just taking advantage of people and their ballot harvesting in. MINNESOTA. Belches like a train wreck off the air that was. That was a shad birds like Satan. Brian. There's no that's true. But I do the sheer volume on your believable scares me all its depth I mean, the base of that is coming all the way from your pelvic region like the other day I was sitting at a in a sports bar last week. had this girl the waitress kept sneaking up behind me And I was like Holy Shit. Where's she comes from? Has, really what's that word when stuff just starts going down? Yeah, it's devolved the. Wash diva. We're on a downward growth spiral. At this point, we built you all the time on party on Brunch. We Belch all the time on our doesn't even throw me off anymore. He birthed I don't care about that. It's the sound guys play back after this is over, you will hear that it sounds like it's coming from the bowels of a safe. Grab that clip and they're gonNA make a mean of Chad gray belt shake spit. The Internet sensation hope loved being sensation especially if you can say. A sentence while you're burping yeah that'd be really cool. I'm GonNa Really Get guttural that burp comes from down here. Do that say I'm possessed Could be good. Show about burps okay well. You're right. There's a lot of things that are going on in the country that. You're like, is this still my country? You know the idea that that socialism or as you want to call it? Democratic. Socialism. I mean a plantation by any other name is still just farm. It's you can change the name all you want but. You know we're talking about arguing for these things right now people are arguing wanting it wanted to have. You know just never thought that stuff like this would happen in the country, but but while we. Occupy ourselves on social media our children. are kind of getting lost in the shuffle and then they come out, they're rebellious and they have all of these things that are going on in their life. They don't know how to deal. Did you know let me blow your mind blow your mind with something that. In the month of August, a month of August. One of the major children's hospitals. In the area. Reported that they had more attempted suicides by juveniles. Than they've had since two thousand sixteen. The Corona virus, all of this stuff that we just doing all of these things to our kids asking them to deal with situations that we have not prepared equip them to deal with. And they don't know how to. And so they're rebelling you got social media. You've got the the influences of of accessibility to everything from jewel cigarettes to drugs alcohol hanging white. Not the same one with the same one I was going to be I'm possessed. They have parents like and party foul. And God only knows how they're going to come out. But you know what you wind up, you wind up with rebellious children. There's a lot of rebellious kids out there. My Kids Aren't thank God Steve's aren't way better than like what do y'all do like your life you should be. SKIP. A generation in it, and thankfully it has you're talking about the. Suicides but don't forget the ones who have actually done it. That has that has also gone up. Our friends. One of one of our best friends, her daughter eighth grader at her school fellow student another eighth grader. Or admitted suicide. It's just it is happy. You're hearing about it more and more. So that is a reality. What happens is what happens is you love your kids so you want to do anything you and forum, right you want to get them help. And here's here's what a lot of people do. They're like. You know what? Let's do. Let's Let's send him off. Let's send them off to these these ranches or these rehabilitation places you know everything from just Tough love straight talk too scared straight do all these things. But what's really going on because you know what rebellious teens? Rebellious, kids it's become a multibillion dollar troubled teen industry. We talked about being on the episode of Snap Dateline. This stuff's really going on in some of these places and we're paying billions of dollars. It's almost like a a true crime story. You remember there's a new documentary is called. This is Paris and it dives into Paris Hilton's experiences. Within the troubled teen industry, everybody knows who Paris Hilton is Paris. Hilton? Of course was born with silver spoon in her mouth got famous by her little leaked Porn Nelson her mouth. Yes. Exactly. They loved jumping on them in your mouth of. They're ready for him. But what we've seen is what amounts to and Kansas we've been talking about this thing for a couple of weeks now. is right under our nose. We have these mind boggling human rights abuses in the troubled teen industry everything from food deprivation as punishment. To. parentally sanctioned kidnappings. Is a multibillion dollar Industry Tough Love Boarding Schools Wilderness Program for trouble youth. And what's happening in a lot of these places. particularly in allow. These. PLACES IN UTAH. We're kind of uncovering some things and you won't believe is happening. It's happening the these these things are happening. It's pure abuse and in some cases. A murder. I mean. I don't know any other way to put it. Now, come on get break. Well there's A. There's one. And I'M NOT GONNA call the names of these things. Just you have a one person tells the story says. They were in one of these programs and program attendees. Were required to sit in a circle in the middle of a room and verbally attack each other no-holds-barred. Either kids. The intention is to break you down and build you back up again into what the program staff want you to be. Okay. The topic has all the hallmarks of a true crime show that the American consumer has come to know and love the fact that they are associated with a cult helps the intrigue as well. So these they're ruining these kids. Paris Hilton reportedly attended a program in Utah, which is rumored to be in the pro to be the Provo Canyon school rumored to be another program tied to I won't say WHO representative for Hilton to class confirm the specific program she attended. Hilton. Ramped up her advocacy efforts for victims. In these programmes, she appeared on CBS's the talk to discuss her upcoming documentary. and. There's a bunch of these people apparently out here. Celebrities specifically who've been through these programs and now they're starting to speak up about it. And you're like so what is the big deal? Got Him straight right Not, in some cases, they're actually calling some of these people who came out at survivors I mean, this is these are the words of. Trafficking and pedophilia, and all of this, and I'm not saying that that's what's being engaged in but it's akin to being victimized and you're doing it all in the name of loving your kid enough to send them off somewhere and I know people I personally know people in my life whose kids went to. UTAH. Be a part of some of these programs. and. Some were good. Some were bad and it's interesting to hear the stories that come out of them. Because you know, what do you do I've got friends in La Beverly Hills out there these kids they grew up with everything life could offer them and they have so many problems that they were at their wit's end. So they sent him off. To your, and then you add in the fact that we're dragging our kids from the time that as soon as they go into their terrible twos or whatever they are that we start drugging them and they go through their entire school, you know growing up on Ritalin or I'm not pointing any individual raw everything I mean save out or off for grown ups. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah We're taking all the pills. I mean what you're talking about here Chad we used to send. We just go to camp. Yeah. And you'd be counseled and you'd be among other children and you'd be away from home and you'd learn about all kinds of things, right? I. GotTa tied knots and go fishing. Let's see. I survived. Send kids to camp. This is like the wrong turn movies you're trying not to be cannibalized right? Right, this is bad stuff here that's going on and we're uncovering some of these things and I'm actually at a point. Now we're trying I'm trying to be careful as I alluded to what's coming in the days ahead of who I mentioned and who can be named and who can't be named and every now, and then I look over there and in Kansas like shut up, they might. Are. Not, really candidate trunk of a Cadillac kidnap. Him. Just, throw a bag over their heads stealing away. We joke about it. We say these things tongue in cheek but kids are losing. They're losing their life in this industry this this teen industry, this bad teen industry what candace you're so funny I'm telling you. I know how to sell this shit. Now when I watch real when I watch Jerry Springer when I was growing up, I remember that he the debates. Anyway this show, yeah, he brought in the military guy who would scare this little rebellious kid who's just horrible to his mom beating his mom I mean, do you remember ever and I'm like, ooh, I to send that kid away that was in my mind were like just sent him to boys military camp for a week to see what what's happening but that's not what you're talking about what I'm talking about and I'm not saying all these programs are bad but I'm just saying there's some stuff that's going on in this industry gotten really out of hand those are the things we're talking about. Hey left US corporations like verizon. They've empowered radicals to tear apart by funding their efforts I was having this conversation with some friends of mine the other day and they were asking about our friends at Patriot mobile and I said as a great organization and the car the reason they are great companies because they don't give to these leftist organizations like your big sell carriers do and in some cases most recently verizon ten million dollars to Al.. Sharpton and a lot of others You remember it started with the impeachment and exploiting the pandemic followed by the violent riots, and now they're threatening violence over filling the vacant seat on the Supreme Court Al Sharpton just the other day talking about how you know this white colonisation. He didn't say colonization, but he comes out with all kinds of crazy stuff and He's a crazy dude because he knows that that's what sells the beauty of Patriot mobile. They share your values. They're not going to send your hard earned money to aid the destruction of America Fund planned parenthood or anybody like that, and you can get the same nationwide cell service and support a company that loves them from a company that loves America shares. Your values supports our police. It's easy to switch over. You can bring your own phone you can get a new phone, you can keep your number. and. Now. They got the best offer yet. You get a free month of service or free phone plus free activation with you use offer code Chad just go to Patriot mobile dot com slash chatter caller us-based customer service team nine, seven, two, Patriot nine, seven, two Patriot and also veterans and first responders you're going to save even more supplies make the switch today Patriot mobile, dot, com slash chatter nine, seven, two Patriot we'll be right back. As Brett Cavanaugh said you pay. It was midnight when David woke up to find two large men standing over his bed. Without any explanation, they told him to get up, get dressed and come with them still in the confusion of sleep but also petrified out of his twelve year old mind David complied. Plus the restraint of a large arm meant he couldn't bolt. When David saw the plain black van parked in front of the house he figured he was about to be kidnapped for dealing drugs to the wrong people at a school. I was scared for my life David who is now fifteen told me. But David wasn't being kidnapped in the traditional sense. What happened hemos arranged by his parents and it was completely legal. I got a song. I. Got a song. On a minute number, one comedy album y'all shut up. It's called beat that ass? Beat that ASS and see people get outraged over that idea of corporate discipline. As. Soon as they told him to get dressed, he should have known he was okay. Mind of a felon right there. The mind of a felon. Let me give you guys a test right here since you bring that up since you bring that up. Let me let me let me let me see if you get the you guys get this friend of mine's secret service. He'd been there five presidents ride. He was for five presents. And he says. To be a secret service agent, the final thing they do the testing. Is they ask you they give you a riddle. And it determines whether or not you're sociopath. When I was given the riddle, I answered it immediately. Which I've always said, I'm sociopath. Doesn't mean I'm GonNa, murder you in your sleep. But. I don't have a lot of empathy. For those people I care I've taught myself to care. But I'm also a bottom line kind of person that says sheet together. Now. Being said. Here's the riddle you want to know what matlock. Two. Sisters were at their mother's funeral. One sister looked across the room and saw man and she immediately fell in love with him. After the funeral was over, she went to find him and he was gone. A. Week later. Murdered her sister. Why Anyone. Anyone. Anyone. Know sociopaths in the room. It's very simple. They figured if he knew the family well enough to be at the mother's funeral, then he'd probably come back to the sisters funeral and she'd have an opportunity to meet him there. Take like a woman though. Came up with an answer instilling. Are. Crazy instance. Youth. Transportation Services. Like the one that picked up David. fairy at risk or allegedly at risk young people to residential programs such as wilderness cancer, therapeutic boarding schools. Often these surprise quote escorts are done in the early hours of the morning when young people are sleeping and use varying levels of aggressive aggressive tactics and professionalism David was lucky to avoid being handcuffed, Hog tied and cable wired slap or punch several others that have been interviewed claim these things happen to them. It is fear that you experience. Once you get into that van ended his fear that you experienced to the whole rehabilitation process said David went back to dealing and taking drugs as soon as he returned to California. This is an article by Vice magazine. A troubled teen tough love industry is made up mostly of for profit companies that promise to fix drug addiction mental illness attitude problems. The center of this industry are the behavioral programs some accused of abusive practice, even causing the death of teen clients. If the behavioral program is the entree in the transportation services, the appetizer often setting the tone for the treatment, the young person will endure for months or years to come. So. Yeah that's they talk about nightmares not being able to sleep alone or needing a night light. These are the people in their twenties and thirties more than a decade. After the event someone was quick to point out not all youth transport services are equal a two thousand fifteen article in the child and youth care form found after serving three hundred and fifty young people attended a wilderness program where nature expeditions are used as type of therapy that whether young people were transported dropped off by parents had little impact on the treatment outcome. But some transports can be traumatizing this is just getting to the camp. Tossing them around tossing kids around like rag dolls. He said his strategy is to pick up. One Guy said he's strategy. To make the pickup as painless as possible for the young person talking them through their grievances with the current situation whatever's going on homer school. There's one guy said I was a little shithead when I was kid I know what it's like to think no one cares. The whole operation is gaining parental permission through an affidavit or power of attorney agreement. Basically, you're turning your kids over somebody. I mean giving them the full authority. As legal guardians, these agreements temporarily transferred parental rights to the Youth Transport Company giving workers permission to include authorizing medical attention or restraining the young person. enormously wide discretion parents give with respect to decisions regarding children. they just give kids away in that case. Lot of abuse a lot of sexual abuse, lot of injury death of the young person there isn't much legal ground to stand on after authority has been handed over by the parents. Parents are often the victims they're desperate to help their child with someone who's supposed to be a professional tells them that this is what they're supposed to do. One one talks about being ZIP tied escorts as soon as they woke her up and they saw her uncle who had custody of her at the time talking with strange men on the sidewalk while she sat locked in the car she assumed the absolute worst I thought my uncle had sold me into some kind of sex slavery. She arrived a two flights along drive in two flights. Later, she arrived at a boot camp in Costa Rica. She was thirteen. She was busted for smoking weed drinking alcohol staying out late, this could happen to you Natalie No. Not for smoking. Weed. Parroting I mean, are we missing the bigger say into your? Current just beat that ass yet. And and sometimes beaten that asked doesn't mean physically beaten that asks. Euphemism for Discipline I mean you know? These are the kind of things. These are the kind of things we're just getting into what can happen parents get so desperate that they're willing to farm their kids out to these types of organizations and we got an expose them. We got an expose coming of some of these things that are there, what watch out for and all this kind of stuff because because let's face it. We all know those parents out there who are dealing with these kids that are rebellious and you think that's an option. And Might not be such a great option, Kansas. You were willing to go join. The scientology. Church. Stealing so we could do an expose. Why. Don't we send you to one of these camps? She looks young enough. I would rather do the sign tall it just would you? From here. Like Let's take a little walk in the woods and let's see if you come back I am really good come old candice. She spends the night at Natalie's house. You pretend that you're little DOPP kit from Costa Rica Yeah. And or wherever her Aztec asses from and you boom there it is. Yeah there it is you, amy. CONYBEARE at her. and. You you. You steal that child away from the native homeland and sent him off to be roughed up a little bit. I would be okay with being adopted by the years. Well, you know she is subjugated to the authority of her husband in a Christian worldview. So we want to be very careful where we send you how dare this patriarchy. Come on can't she'd be willing to go. Nilo nature hike a little dirt. Little Poison Ivy. Okay. That's fine. Okay. Yeah. I made three hots on a cot. Hot but whatever sounds like, marine. Corps. Boot camp yeah was a little bit like that. I don't know I hate all that. I mean I don't like the sexual abuse and all of that I just I know that I agree with the parenting part but I do have some friends that have a child. That It? It's. Pretty situations not. Understand I know they spank I. Know they do. But then when the child comes back on them, do it again and I'm going to kill myself or they're saying things that are not right in the head. I've heard some stories. There are some positive some negative. Yeah. 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P., S., DOT, com slash loss keeps dot com slash loss go there. Today we'll be right back. Natalie yes. Sir. We can't get candles to go to the Wilderness, can't go you. Know, I don't have the youthful look but candice does you are half one hundred you know what chance do it And I'm. Not Half one hundred. Yet Chance could do it. What are we GonNa do on Your Fiftieth? That's a long way away buddy. Steve's birthday month is almost over almost almost are you gonNA take it all the way to October sixth October eighth. WHY BECAUSE OCT eight? Sounds like a good day. Sir Good Round number number is your birthday was September six. Yeah. So you talked over a month and two days. Okay thirty three days. That's a long birthday. Steve's weird. WE'RE GOING TO BE IN, UTAH. Beacon of Batty. Talk. About Utah because we're headed to Utah West Jordan Utah, I don't WanNa get kidnapped by anybody going to be at the Comedy Club down there? This weekend. I want everybody to go to watch Chad Dot Com and get your tickets come out and hang out with us. We might have to do some on site investigating DC. We might I might have to go out and find one of these camps. See. If I can find some kids laying around on the ground and ain't funny. This is a bad deal. Saying a bad deal but I'm GONNA. Go check out my new forever home in the country of Utah. This weekend and sixth have me. It'd be careful about Utah we're going to go hiking. I hope not in the woods. Hike you're not close them I. it's just a walk. I don't like to walk I like sweating. I. There's a lot of things you. I will. I know I like to. Do that. I do ma. Mos- naked I haven't naked taking my wife to mow the yard. Well the whole two, Acre Yard picture she almost slipped right off the seat. He took the turn too fast and her sweaty ask just slid on Chiro turn. Zero turn radius you don't. Like. Hiking Zero Radius. Turns. No. No. I've been forced to do it coming not by kidnappers but. Like where am I going? Just out. Beauty. You're enjoying the nature. Bird we don't live in like South Dakota we live in Texas every hundred yards. It looks like the last hundred yards. That's true. But you're going to Utah where it could be a surprise around every. Bear Bear. Or. Kids. It. Ever know might run into Glenn, Beck the bunker all in a hole, and there's Beck and what are you doing here? I just want to be on the show. I could find you hey Glenn. Buddy. Glen E becky. Boy, I'll tell you what we have more fun around here talking about kidnapped kids. It's terrible candice. Arable. Got I'm telling you this stuff that that we're going to expose mind-blowing capstone off I. Believe it. It's there. It's happening. It's happening here. Look some kid bitching about getting scared straight. That's one thing right? That's not what we're talking about. I'm talking about they've made an industry out of abuse that is just a major major deal. And I'm thinking of sending chancy. I'm thinking of sending the soloist ginger rapper. He already doesn't have soul. Yeah, we could get rid of the beard. Will. Yes Great. That's great. He needs a hair product. I mean. He's the perfect guy for the hair product. Yeah. KEEPS DOT COM SLASH LAW CERTES IT IS I. Screw it. I'll go do it. No? No. Okay. I finally started looking like a grown man. You do baby face. I always have. I'm one hundred years old. I don't know if you guys real. I'd been around since Joe Biden invented the printing press. I am looking forward to a Kamala Harris Presidency I. Really Am anyone else anybody I don't think she's looking forward to it. I don't think so I think they've got her drugged. You know we've talked about him have had they had joe drug. And I think they got Kamala drug. I, think they got stuff to calm her down think. They've had stuff to calm down because she would giggling laughing. At the most inopportune times and they're like, yeah, you gotta get on against Hull. Like sneezing eight times, get yourself together. You can only control behaviors like that for. For just a little short time. Back into that yeah. Give her some Benzodiazepine homer right down like Kathleen blowzy Ford. was that girl's name? Team Christain Lasi. Blasi. Ford yeah well, she's going to. She's going to tell you that amy conybeare was the other woman. She was the other girl at the party she said. Could. possibly. Go. What kind of circus are they gonNA make that? I mean seriously think about what kind of circus. Son It's just insane the mental gymnastics but I said something last week and say it again The reason they're attacking these women. The way that they are is because they see these women like. Tony Barrett or Kelly mcenaney or Sarah Sanders. What's our girl in the in the White House or was in the White House carrying a Kellyanne conway the they see the misogynist which are Mike Pence and Donald Trump right and in Mike pence is a good example because he can't just come out and blast women. He's a puritan br he's straight down the line, but he can use these women. To really be condescending to the rest of you women and especially you women of color and make y'all feel like dirt. Because they're so superior to you how dare Mike Pence are Donald Trump US women to promote their misogyny nothing xactly what they're doing these damnable white women. Say. So now they're part of the weapon they've been weaponized. So we gotta fight against them and that's what that's the insanity. That's how they justify because these women aren't me to win. These aren't believe all women. These aren't vagina hat wear women. These aren't women's March women. These aren't. Madonna nationally women women these aren't the judge chick women. These have been weaponized jug shit. Yeah that's right there, and that's that's one hundred percent. That's the judge. Woman Judge Joe Chick these aren't Alyssum Alana Women, right? No. These women have been weaponized Stepford wives women. These are Stepford women and they're not real people. They're not humans their robots and they should be treated like terminators melted down abolished. And Amy Conybeare it is one hundred percent a terminator. She has been weaponized against the left. She's weaponized against America. She's destroying our freedoms. She's going to take away our rights and our ability to choose and the autonomy of women, and she is so unlike our our BG. That she's going to make sure that you remain unequal in pay unequal in stature demand unequal in business unequal in any ability to climb the upward ladder and succeed in America taking you back to the eighteen eighty s where women made fabulous sandwiches with homemade bread. Male The head Mayo in Eighteen I hope. So you think. She's kind of hot. She's she's she's more than Kinda hot. Yeah. She she's very scooper. Yeah. Yeah. She got that one little baby tooth hoosier one little baby tooth. There are dame yeah. Not Bad girl she she's not Well, she's a Louisiana girl but she ended up in Indiana Notre Dame I I don't know if you consider Notre Dame Indiana I mean what southbound it's it's their I understand geographically it's there but is it Really in the heartland is Notre Dame, really the heartland, but she isn't human. She's like Austin powers, checks that shoot bullets. The weapons. Little, laser beams. SACK. Is She's been weaponized. So that's why they're they can attack her. That's they justify it because these aren't real women. These are weaponized women who are being used for misogynistic purposes by men who were trying to appear to be compassionate and Nice. But we know deep down, they're really not. Because I look at them on camera and I feel more empowered as a woman. Yes. Start the tweet last week where they said that she's she they went after this. Well, she's just part of the Patriarchy because she's she's belongs to a Christian organization. Women alone. Colonialism with the children and then when it comes to her husband, she believes that he's the head of the household and stuff I mean, she made blasphemy I mean as liberal blasphemy how dare she'd be subjugated subjugated all the way into the top court in the United States. Amazing to me what empowerment me you know when you have a man in your life that's a pretty good dude who runs point and takes all this shit. So it doesn't hit you. I'll tell you what curse what occurs for you women. Will I mean she has horrible I mean you got you got dude who's the head of the household I mean forget the fact that you're the neck turns the head but whatever whatever. But him you let him take the bat to the head you know what I mean. Don't say a word. We'll be right back. I believe. Leaves he can fly. Back in touch athanas okay. Don't be asking me a bunch of whilst. Say a word and there she does. Go we're places with that song. Mark Kelly rivers of that. Oh, I know matlock the host of logging load. Matlock matlock show what does your website again matlock matlock show dot COM matlock matlock show dot com. All things matlock. Yeah. All things. Matty lock all things imparting Steve at Steve Party fell Steve. Nations. You too hot. News Natalie. Me Natalie Wood's twenty two you can find me. At Watch Chad DOT COM GOING TO BE, in Utah checking out the new digs the new country. GonNa need a passport to get in there Steve. Don't forget you gotta get your passport. I. GotTa Get that renewed. Dusan we've got stuff to do that requires a passport, not the least of which includes moving to Glenn Beck's house Yeah. They're going to have to do a full house a passport for Turksancacoes forgetting to be a cup probably yeah. No problem up in a cup right now you're not going to like what you find. 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BRAZIL: Ten Thing I Didnt Know

Power Principles Podcast with Maleah Warner

39:17 min | 1 year ago

BRAZIL: Ten Thing I Didnt Know

"Hello this is me. Welcome to power principles. The podcast today is episode. Forty two ten things. I didn't know about Brazil. Hi Friends I just got home from a trip to Brazil and by just got home I mean I've been off the plane for less than twenty four hours. I tell you this to make you jealous. Which is strange? Because if I'm being completely honest which I usually am I did not want go on this trip. But that's actually the topic for next week's podcast episode. Because I didn't want to go and I ended up having this amazing in Ohio breakthrough experience in Brazil. And so next week I'm podcasting about recognizing and overcoming self sabotage. Tis Days episode is ten things. I learned about Brazil's specifically Sao Paulo that I didn't know before travelling. They're alert lert warning fun. Interesting stories ahead. If you are not in the mood to hear some entertaining and even educational stories you might want to click over to one of those depressing oppressing crime podcasts because fence stories ahead first before we dive in the review of the week comes from Hitman. Dan Ninety nine which sounds like the topic of one of those true crime. PODCASTS hitman ninety nine says I really recognize the gift that Malaysia has in speaking. She can articulate what she says really well all things are in order and she sounds calm but you can really hear passion in what is being spoken about. She is personable and comes across with a great feeling of empathy rather than sympathy. which in my opinion is more important important? The content is logical and make sense and she has personal anecdotes that allows listeners to relate really incredible thank thank you hitman ninety nine for taking the time to leave a review and for listening to the podcast. I'm glad you enjoy it. If you want to be the reviewer of the week leave me a five star review you and tell me something you've learned or your favorite episode reviews are what help this podcast to appear. When people are searching for inspirational content it grows because of you thank you and now the top ten things? I learned about Brazil that I did not know before I traveled there. Numero DEZ number. Ten Brazil is a country of immigrants so much like my home country. The United States of America there are true native Brazilians the native indigenous tribes such as the Guada- knee otherwise the citizens there have descended mostly mostly from immigrants and there is a spirit of building of enterprise and a work ethic and the people I met new the stories of their ancestors before I left on this trip. I knew really hardly anything about Brazil specifically about Sao Paulo. which is the city that we were? We're going to. I'd heard that it was crowded. One of the most crowded cities on the planet earth and that it wasn't really safe. I didn't South Paulo everyone. Here's Rio de Janeiro. It's not the capital Brasilia is and so I had an impression of Sao Paulo being grungy Asia and ghetto and high crime. And that I would be stuck in my hotel and I wouldn't feel safe to go explore on my own and also I had the impression that probably knowing there would know what gluten-free meant and that I wouldn't be able to communicate and so I would be stuck in my hotel room. Eating Lettuce Leaves for seven days. He's so that's the mindset that I had before going into the trip on the first day they're one of the business spouses arranged a personal torch for us and I would really recommend this when you travel. It's not something that I would have ever done. I'm such a do it yourself for that. I I think to pay someone to show me their country but today with Google reviews and tripadvisor. It's easier and it's safer to find a tour guide right. And this is how I met Doris Kertzman. who showed up in her car to show me around Sao Paulo? And after my time with Doris I was so in love with the city of Sao Paulo. I could hardly wait until Justin got back to the hotel and I could tell him everything that I learned and I couldn't wait for the next day to hit the city again and I think this is so true about most anything in life that in order to love something thank you just need to get to know it. I want to tell you a little bit Doris Story. She descends from immigrants. Her grandparents were Jews who escaped escaped Poland at some point during Hitler's regime and the outbreak of World War Two. They did not know where they were going. They got on a ship having no idea where the ship was headed. Only that it was taking them out of Poland and that is the true definition of fleeing or escaping. Isn't it taking the gamble that back in place you land will be better and safer than where you are. I would love to know the intricate details sales of their story. How they ended up on the ship who they were with what happened to their friends and family who decided not to go with them or who found a different way out of Poland? I only know what Doris told me that. Her grandparents arrived in Brazil with nothing and found a way to work and carve out a living so one of the very first people met in Brazil was a descendant of Polish Jews. A couple of the other people that I met Roggio one of my husband's has been business partners. His great grandparents fled from Syria due to a war in their homeland over one hundred years ago. And that is how he ended up coming to would be a Brazilian. What is interesting as that? In the past ten years as civil war once again has broken out in Syria ever. Since the Arab spring arrived in Syria in two thousand eleven another wave of refugees has fled to Brazil. The U N Refugee Fugit Agency actually reports that Brazil has made it easier by issuing an open door policy their consulates in the Middle East East issue special visas with simplified procedures to help the survivors of the war in Syria to travel to Brazil where they can can present an asylum clean and have a chance to start over in a place away from the war. That's been going on over eight years now and has driven something like five five million people into exile. I also met have not whose ancestors were immigrants from Russia and another man whose grandparents immigrated from Lebanon there is a large population of Lebanese immigrants in Brazil. The largest population of Lebanese knees outside of Lebanon is in Brazil and that is true for a lot of countries which will talk about in a minute and I could feel a kinship to and at home home in Brazil because like the United States. It's such a melting pot of cultures and countries and ethnicities. It is a country like the United States that has been and built by Immigrants Numero Novi number nine about the city of south hollow. I learned so so much about Sao Paulo even to the point that I learned that Sao Paulo means Saint Paul which I could figure that out if I would have just thought through it a little little bit. South Paulo is the largest city in Latin America larger than Mexico City it has eighteen to nineteen million residents. I can't even describe that as we were flying over Sao Paulo to the airport the massive city the miles titles and miles of skyscrapers and huge apartment. Buildings just kept going on and and on and on with no end in sight and it's not just one city centre. It's not like flying being over New York and seeing all the tall buildings concentrated into one space and you can still see the rivers and you can still see open open space. You know you can see an end to the massive skyscrapers sell Paulo. Went on for ever and you try to comprehend comprehend to wrap your brain around the number of people in that space so to try to put it into perspective perspective. The population of Manhattan is one point. Six million people the entire state of New York is nineteen. Eighteen million people and the entire state of New York is like fifty four thousand square miles or the population of Las Angeles is four million people in five hundred square miles. This is more comparable so and five hundred square miles. Los Angeles has four four million people. It's crowded Los Angeles's crowded you go. There you fill out the traffic. It's it's a busy crowded place so Sao Paulo in five hundred square miles has nineteen million people. So it's a little bit more square miles than Lost Angeles and almost five times as many people. And yes just as you imagine. Traffic is an issue issue. So that being said it didn't feel horribly crowded to me. We were out walking on the streets. We went to when open market. It felt very similar to walking down. The streets of New York. Driving around in the city. Traffic was crazy very few accidents. The way they drive. You would think that there would be accidents every minute of every day and we did not. I think we saw one accident in the week that we were there. We were almost in one accident but because they have to drive slow enough to get around the driver's somehow how make room and and avoid most of the accidents so definitely traffic is an issue but I did not feel crowded by nine hundred million people. It's it's still hard for me to wrap my brain around that. So Sao Paulo was founded January twenty fifth fifteen fifty four and the reason. It was January twenty fifth and not January twenty four th or January twenty. Sixth is because January. Twenty fifth is the day that Paul had his change of heart and became an apostle of Jesus Christ so from the New Testament. If you remember that Paul had gone around Paul had been Saul and he'd gone around Attacking the Church and attacking the Christians at the time and January twenty fifth marks his conversion. I don't know how we know that I didn't know that. I don't know how they know it. It's not listed in the New Testament anywhere. But that's why the first official the mass was held at the top of a hill of Sao Paulo by Catholic Jesuit missionaries and officially started Sao Apollo so from the fifteen fifty s to about the seventeen hundred Sao Paulo. The population of Sao Paulo consisted of Portuguese immigrants. who were escaping the poverty of Portugal and the indigenous people of Brazil and then in the seventeen hundreds towards the eighteen hundreds? They discovered scuppered that Brazil was a good place to grow sugar cane and that they needed more Labor to make these sugar cane plantations nations profitable which brings us to number eight new metal. We to what I learned about. Brazil is that like the United States dates. It was built by immigrants and slaves. The sugarcane plantation owners enslaved the indigenous natives lives and then still needed more labor and so they brought captured slaves from Africa. Four million slaves were obtained Bri Brazil will one point five million more than any other country. This is interesting to me because in my mind slavery and the a civil war and the abolitionist era was something unique to United States history when Brazil was going through something. Thanks very similar right about the same time. Slavery in Brazil was legally ended in eighteen. Eighty eight and then Brazil began to rely upon European Immigration Labor so Brazil went to countries especially like Italy where there was a war going on between the North and south of Italy and they advertise that they would pay for Italians voyage and their food for them to come and work in Brazil so today Brazil has the largest Italian population outside of Rome however once the Italians arrived in Brazil the the immigrants received very low salaries they were expected to pay back their voyage and their food and found. That was very hard to pay off those debts. They worked in poor conditions. Long working hours were frequently ill-treated by their bosses amd because of this in nineteen zero to Italy Italy enacted a decree prohibiting subsidized immigration to Brazil. So once again Brazil found itself in a struggle to find cheap the Labor to support its main economic crop which had involved from sugarcane to now coffee and coffee plantations and some other interesting things are happening all around the world which are going to have an impact on what is today's population of Brazil. At about this time the end feudalism in Japan was generating great poverty in the rural populations so Japanese were looking for other places to go for better living conditions ends but prospects for Japanese people to migrate to other countries were limited. The United States had banned non white immigration from some parts of the world in an exclusion clause of the Immigration Act which was specifically targeted at the Japanese but Brazil was looking for workers and Japan had workers that needed a place to work and so in one thousand nine hundred seven the Brazilian governments and the Japanese government side a treaty permitting Japanese migration into Brazil between nineteen seventeen and nineteen forty over one hundred sixty four thousand Japanese migrated to Brazil. Seventy five percent of them going join to sell Paulo where most of the coffee plantations were located. Now at this point I have to read this paragraph directly from wikipedia. I think it is so fascinating when I see real life examples from the words of Wikipedia. Quoting wikipedia here quote. Brazil is home to the largest Japanese population outside of Japan Unquote. I saw that there were Japanese looking the people speaking Portuguese everywhere back to wikipedia quote since the nineteen eighties a return migration has emerged emerged of Japanese Brazilians returning to Japan Unquote. I have a real life. Example of this might children's Japanese Japanese teacher sense. A bully was born in Brazil then as a teenager. She moved back to Japan and learn to speak Japanese so she is a beautiful Asian looking woman from Brazil whose native language is Portuguese who learned to speak Japanese as a teenager and now lives in Utah County and teaches in English since he bellini is spear header of of Japanese Education in the State of Utah she is doing really cool things with Japanese classes here and lastly back to a Kapadia quote and more recently a trend of interracial marriage has taken hold among Brazilians of Japanese descent with the racial intermarriage rate approximated at fifty eighty percent and increasing unquote. Yes I saw that too everywhere. We went Japanese married to Brazilian. And I tell you. Those children are gorgeous so the number eight thing about Brazil. I learned that I didn't know before was the the slavery history of Brazil and how the abolishment of slavery in Brazil resulted in the immigration of so many different cultures and populations nations to Brazil onto number seven metro set. J. Number seven is a story about about the meeting of language. Did you know that English is not taught in school in Brazil so if anyone is going to learn English English in Brazil they pretty much learn it on their own they figure out a way to take classes or they learn it from TV. Our tour guide. Dora spoke such good English that we had a really fun language encounter. Here's the story. I asked Doris if she also spoke Polish if she learned to speak Polish from her grandparents appearance remember. They escaped Poland at the time of World War Two and she shook her head and explained to me that she never learned Polish and that it wasn't until later in life that she even asked her grandmother to speak to her and Polish and at that time she realized how easy it would have been for her to learn Polish as a child and how much she regretted not learning it and then we commiserated about the follies of youth. How we didn't appreciate what our grandparents could teach us us when they were live but Doris said that she did learn Hebrew because as a youth she attended synagogue and studied the Torah in Hebrew Hebrew and has largely forgotten it today? She said I hated those classes. They were so boring. It was always something that I had to do that. I had to go pass off my assignments in Hebrew today. She says the only fraiche she can really remember in Hebrew is to say in Hebrew that I cannot speak Hebrew so when she hasn't Isreaeli tour group she knows enough to tell them that she can't speak Hebrew so in Hebrew she tells them I can't speak Hebrew and they love it. They love the in Hebrew. She can say I can't speak Hebrew so Doris told me so. She can't remember Hebrew anymore anymore. She told me that she can't really consider herself. Jewish she married a Catholic and even though her sons did their bar mitzvahs. She hasn't attended synagogue synagogue in years so then I taught Doris a cool little English expression. I taught her the suffix Ish. You you know when you add ish to the end of the word it means you are so so at something gets not exact for example. If I'll be there five ish I'm not going to be there exactly five. It might be before five. It might be after five it will be five ish or if you say that a woman is tall ish. She isn't exactly tall she's just close to or somewhat tall. If I'm hungry ish then I'm not exactly starving but I could eat so I'm explaining this handy civics x two doors and she says Oh there's a TV show called black ish. And I never understood what it meant and I was like yeah. That's what it meant so. I told told her that she could call herself Jew Ish. She's not exactly practice scene. But she's definitely culturally the and ethnically a Jew so therefore she's Jew ish and she loved that I got this awesome colloquialism through my daughter who has college roommate. Who is a non actively practicing Jew and she calls herself? Cheer First Herself as Jew. Ish I just love clever. People I love plays on language plays on words so number. Seven may be isn't something that I learned so much in Brazil but now something that Doris has learned about English that you can add ish to something okay. Number six numero safes. I learned that the word for flag is Ben data which is similar to Spanish vendetta. So you know the actor. Antonio Banderas is how we say. The English Antonio Banderas who was born in Spain his name translates slates as Antonio flags number six. Now you know you'll never forget it number five Numero Cinco all the mountains. Oh I have learned what it is like to travel through huge mountains. Yes I live in the heart of the rocky mountains. Let me finish to travel through huge mountains. One hundred percent covered covered in tropical green trees and foilage and tunnels we drove through mountain tin tunnels. To the extent I have never seen before when my family drives up Provo canyon towards Deer Creek. And there's that little all tunnel and we hold our breath through that tunnel and it's hardly holding your breath for anything. If we held our breath driving through those tunnels we would be dead. And I would not be here telling you that number five is that I've learned the experience of driving through mountain tunnels that go on for five five minutes. Tunnels dug straight through huge mountains. That are carpeted in rainforest and my perception perception of the word breath taking has taken on a completely new meaning number four numeral quattro. I learned that the number one religion in Brazil is not Catholicism. It is soccer and what team you cheer for matters. I A lot so Brazil having won five World Cup trophies more than any other country in the world is the soccer capital of the globe there are basically four means soccer clubs in Brazil. And which one oh you cheer for really determines who you associate with and what fights you're gonNA end up with at the dinner table so team number one and I'm I'm not listing these in any particular order other than the order that I I learned about them team number one is coordination and you would never be able to tell from the pronunciation Gatien. But couldn't John Is Corinthians they're named after Corinthians like in the New Testament they are the most popular soccer team in in south hollow the second most popular soccer team in Brazil. The cutting Chea regards itself as being the team of the people bull and it gathers its supporters from the city's working class suburbs and their soccer jerseys are white and black second is team. PA- mayoress mayoress with is far as I can tell is translated as palm trees. They are current. John's biggest rival. The club is traditionally linked with the city's these Italian community having been founded by a group of Italian laborers in the early twentieth century. They play in Green and white jerseys and their nickname the Dow means big greens. The third team is sell Paulo. They're known as the tri-color team for or they're white red and Black Jerseys Sao Paulo is the city second most supported club and it is one of Brazilians. Most successful number. Four is Santos and the team sunk. Toasts is not technically part of Sao Paulo's iron trio because Santos is A city outside of Sao Paulo however slant is one of the most famous soccer clubs in the world not just in Brazil zillow but in the World Team Santos has a great nickname their pay sheet. which means fish fantastic? And they're all white jerseys Are recognized around the world. The Santos Club is famous largely to pay late. Who is the greatest soccer walker player of all time who played for Santos eighteen years? He first arrived as an unknown sixteen year old and left when he was thirty. Four years old as a global superstar. Pay One three World Cups as a Santos Player and took his club too an astonishing twenty six trophies including two South American championships and two World Championships. So so my tour guide Doris. She was a fan of Sao Paulo. She called herself a police because she supported the Sao Paulo soccer team. Her husband and sons sons are die. Hard chimeras because chimeras were founded by Italian Catholic laborers and she married Italian Catholic dors. I told me that she's pretty much given up soccer because her family gets so crazy about the games that they pretty much ruined it for her man I relate I feel that way about. Byu Football oops. Did I just say that. In any case in Sao Paulo an olive Brazil soccer or Futsi bull is a big deal bill and you can guess what souvenir my husband brought home for our teenage boys. You got it soccer jerseys. So number four in my trip to Brazil I learned learned a lot more about soccer than I ever expected and he wasn't even really trying number three Nemoto Tarez. I learned and I thought this was so so interesting. That gambling in Brazil in the whole country is illegal it has been illegal since nineteen forty six so the hotel we stayed in had a game night basically a casino night like they do on college campuses. We each got a hundred dollars one hundred amount of fake money. Now I do not play Casino Games. I don't know how to play poker and the employee's didn't speak English so I was trying to learn how to play poker for the first time ever and I was trying to learn it with the help of Portuguese explanations. Somehow it worked and it was so much fun fortunately before we went my husband and I studied up on Portuguese numbers and plain black. Jack is a great rate Portuguese number practice so from quote unquote gambling in Brazil. I learned Portuguese numbers. And my favorite numbers are nine Navy Twenty Vinci Fifteen Kimsey and fourteen catastophe and my hotel room number which I had to say over and over. Every time I checked out towel or went to the breakfast. Buffet was is fourteen twenty nine and it sounds so cool cat. Tour's even she Nabi and they'll add here along with learning favorite numbers that I really fell in love with the Portuguese language which I thought that Portuguese was just kind of a knockoff of Spanish. And it really is a mix of the words are a mix of the French and Spanish but the pronunciation is so different and the pronunciation to me. Sounds quite Italian. Everything's very exaggerated saturated and lots of Chee Yard. I just that seeing soggy Italian and so of course. I came home absolutely convinced that I'm going to practice Portuguese everyday and learn to speak the language fluently. I'm already off to such a great start right because I can say Qatar Stephen KNOB heavy number two Numero dos. I learned that sell Paulo. Basically has a central park like New York which which is so unexpected in the middle of that hugely populated city to have this enormous park and and it's especially unusual because with the massive growth of population over the last hundred years. Most old buildings or historic sites have have not been preserved out of necessity. They were torn down and replaced with bigger buildings except in the city. There is is this huge park and the story is that it was such swampland that nothing could be built there and then in about the nineteen fifties as the president decided to bring in some foreign trees like eucalyptus that drink a lot of water and now it is a tree park with trees from all over the world. And if you know me you know I love trees so the day after my tour tour with Doris when I fell in love with the city of Sao Paulo. I couldn't wait to take Justin to the Parkway imbed Pereira and we. We walked half the park that night. And guess what we felt perfectly safe. There were so many people jogging sprinting. biking seen walking with their families pushing babies in strollers and the park had the coolest thing adult exercise playgrounds. I've I've never seen this anywhere else. They had like par core equipment like Ninja Warrior equipment. There were Chin up bars and these kind of league press machines and rowing machines and adults exercise playground area. I think it's a phenomenal idea. And many buildings in and around around the park are painted by the Brazilian Artists Cobra K. O. B. R. A.. Like the snake but with a K.. Who does is this really cubic colorful geometric style of art and you can see his art many places as you travel around Sao Paulo? Follow so number two. I learned this. How hollow has a central park and that it has a really lively culture for art and for music the this brings us to number one metal? Ma I saved the best for last. This was was mind. Blowing life-changing deep. Are you ready. Why this is number one on has to do with a lot of things coming together kind of full circle so if you remember from Episode Nineteen and Twenty I talked about not limitation limitation summer screen time and instead of focusing on a limited screen mindset that my family was going to focus on learning things practicing in things and then at the end of the summer we were going to have a family shine time when everyone could share what they've learned and practiced over the summer and then in episode thirty four? I talked about how after our shine time. We took everyone out to eat at Rhodesia grill which is a Brazilian restaurant. The plot thickening this is before school starts. And I'm watching my family and they keep coming back to the table with these little round cheesy bread rolls and the look so delicious and I can't eat them. They're not gluten free but I'm just salivating debating over them so lo and behold I arrive in Brazil and our hotel has a continental breakfast. This is not a US American continental dental breakfast with some dried out muffins in a bowl of overripe bananas and mushy apples and some orange juice from concentrate. This is a spread bread of sliced melon passion. Fruit Pineapple key week WADA. I could go on and on a rainbow assortment of freshly disclose in juice plus a spread of cheeses sausages eggs bacon and real European pastries and a tray of hot from the oven. Brazillian cheese bread. which I won't eat neither? Will I eat the pastries because I don't WanNa be sick to my stomach the whole time that I am there then after our breakfast I leave for my tour with Doris and part of the tour. Are We stop at an open market and other spouse with me wants to order a freshly sequels in juice. Because they're juice there is so amazing so we're in the market sitting on Barstool sipping our juices at a counter with a display of traditional Brazilian on the go foods for sale most of which are breaded and fried and also include powder or Brazilian cheese bread. So duris duris points out. Each of the things explains which is her favourite the breaded chicken an icee albeit for since it's her favorite and she politely declines but says that no I I should buy it and try it for myself and so then. I started explaining about being gluten free and the woes of the Brazilian cheese bread and Dora's US tells me the most life changing information of our entire tore Brazilian cheese rolls are gluten free. They are made with tapioca flour. Doris knows this because even though she is Jew you one time. She was fasting for and I thought she said Ramadan. But that's a Muslim holiday. Maybe she said rush hushand but it was a fast during which she didn't eat flour and her brother who is not Jew Ish but is exactly Jew and Orthodox Jew informed her that she could eat. Bow Decay Zhou or Brazilian cheese bread. Because it didn't have flour then. Doris asked the man behind the counter to confirm if indeed these particular cheese breads had any flour and he said no and I bought one and eight it on the spot. This marvellous thing happened on my first full day in Brazil which means that for six days after I bow every day. What would my trip have been like? If we hadn't stopped for juice at that cafe or started talking breaded and fried foods and Jewish fast and flower. Free bread options. It would still have been a marvelous trip trip but not nearly as tasty. This makes me wonder what other Yemi morsels of life. I miss out on because I don't know about them or because I didn't ask months ago when I was deliberating about whether or not to get an airplane ticket and company my husband on his business trip to Brazil my my daughter said of course. You're going to Brazil with dad because it would be ridiculous if you missed the opportunity. What if I hadn't listened to my daughter when she said that I kind of think this is the summary of what life is all about? If I had to summarize the meaning of life I I would say it is this. Life is about getting an education about gathering experiences and to find the love in the midst of all all of it. I loved this lesson learned from my Jew. Ish Polish Brazilian tour guide now friend during a trip that they didn't want to take that life has all kinds of delicious Bites Bermuda partake of if I open myself to the possibility and my friends. That is what I learned traveling to Brazil. This is me order. Thank you for listening. I don't know what you are up to today me piles of post trip laundry and trying to remember how to prepare food for myself and on cleanup dishes. Whatever you're doing today will you remember to go to apple podcasts? Leave me a five star review and share why you like listening to power principles. podcast most most of all today. I'm going to be looking at baking instructions for Brazilian cheesy bread which I think gluten free sister gave me a recipe for a while ago and told me it would change my life and I filed it somewhere on the office desk and didn't listen now I know

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142: Inner Peace with Dorit Kemsley: Wednesday, August 26th, 2020

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142: Inner Peace with Dorit Kemsley: Wednesday, August 26th, 2020

"Good Morning. Welcome back to the morning toast. Happy. Wednesday Hump Day who woo Hoo in the bill day always have theo in the building. Hope everyone had an amazing week since we saw you last. Hope you enjoyed our last episode. We got such positive feedback from Emma Chamberlain because. What else is there to give I forgot it out that we are so sneaky and we're doing the same thing today with our guest is in the table at this point. So you know her, you love her drake Hemsley is on the end of this episode also recorded our interview with her the zoom. So it's on our youtube channel and it's everything sort just like her. Yeah. It was really a dream come true moment for us a dream come true moment. It was really nice to obviously talk to her and just tell her much we love her but also. Ask some lingering questions that I had about the episode that like I kept in the back of my mind like if I talked to house I soon, this is what I'm going to like is Bravo Bravo Bravo something that is actually said often, and she answers questions she answers with honesty she didn't hold back she was like even for our little zoom, she was looking glamorous as hell matched to the gods with those orange now yes she was looking so good. So we really hope you enjoy that and again if you WANNA watch it, it's up on our youtube. Hope everyone had a fabulous week. We did we've been having a fabulous week and I do think that the toasters are having fabulous weeks also because the content does not stop coming even though we are on vacation and there are technically yes less episodes of the toast were giving so much more on the Patriot. If you're not a patriots member, we've had four or five episodes go up this month. There's still one more coming some blogs some podcast fatal Libyan. Margot joined Ben was in one. Michaela even joins one you hear of her little. Before, we had to give her the boot. So if you're needing more from us than just these weekly episodes head over to Patriot dot com slash morning toe seven dollars ninety nine cents gets you five extra episodes every month they're podcasts. There everything of the sort and you also get access to our private members only facebook group if you become a member so it's really worth joining at this point so much on this week, we also filmed log two weeks ago when we did our weekly episode, we shared with you guys something really personal to us, which is our love of Walmart. Yeah. It's something we wanted to open up about for a long time and it was just the right time for us. It was the right time and then you. Guys were so receptive towards that. Thank think you by the way for being social I support it goes so far as to do a Walmart Hall blog which we did. It also inspired another idea for log because we went to a very special fast food chain after and just watching eat in the car like we are so big bang we were being such animal. We are so hungry and just like I just excited about the idea of drive, it's not something we get to experience the city there is one. Drive through unlike eleventh and thirty Fourth Street but who the fuck has time to go down there. So it is it was an experience for us in maybe something common to everyone else. But we don't get drive throughs and we take them seriously and I really do think at least for me personally I'm glad that we have footage of our drive experience because like I'm going to Rewatch when we get back to the city and I just need to like live vicariously through a drive thru moment and we're that spawned. A drive through series for us, which we're GONNA film probably later this week next month probably because we're still here for the first half Denver. So you'll still be getting blogs from vacation we have citing things planned. So head over to pink dot com slash morning toast for all of that. So much happened this week. There's a lot of housewives news lot. It hasn't news. We're GONNA talk about just talk about the gorilla in the room. Right? We're GonNa talk about her firing a confirmed firing by confirmed but pointing to. is now saying it. So we recorded our New York recap before this where it was just Daily Mail report being that she was fired page six reporting it and I'm pretty sure it's a confirmed fired ends crazy. So we talk about all of our thoughts on the episode in her departure. In Our TV RECAP SEGMENT, we're also talking Beverly Hills. Potomac everything you wanna hear, and then of course, joined by the Queen Herself to American herself, there is a lot of news though. From the rest of the week that I look forward to getting into but on a personal note, how are you doing how is your inner peace going my journey? The inner peace did take a couple of suspense. I'M NOT GONNA lie there were a couple of things that really set me off and what's so frustrating about the journey to inner peace is that to get there it's so much work like it is so long and and once you get there it can be. Taken from you in a matter of seconds. Yeah. So I had a few instances this week where my inner peace that I worked really really hard to generate was taken for me one time. Yes. It was taken from you buy you. Sorry. No. When you did my crossword fine I, thought you were talking about the walk and I refuse to let that be. So then the other drama that we had this week was that we took which I have been walking on. Multiple Times a week here trying to get my blood flowing and I do I know my limits and that's the thing is you should I know my body it's the blogger in me like I'm always listening to my body seem to your body and I always listen to my body and I know what my limits are and there's a certain hike trail here where I know where I can go in there, and then when it's time to turn back, it is technically one big loop. It's like a two and a half mile loop, but I worked for fifteen minutes into that trail. Then I walked fifteen minutes back with that is my limit and we went on a hike. and. The group decided to do the whole thing like while we were already started and I wasn't going to be like the sad person who like turned around. So I just agreed to it even though I did protest saying that it was not going to be good but no one listened to me I mean ended up doing the whole trail and it was just a journey like truly emotionally spiritually it was really fucking hard. Be totally underestimated. We got kind of lost like it was I tried to cut. Through like it was such a non peaceful journey for me that really shook up my inner shock raw and totally like re dismantled my inner peace in my inner belief system in in the world. Honestly I'm sorry that that happened and Jackie was one of the people encourage it i. just want you guys to know when everyone was like I had already done the loop earlier in the day. So I went on your guys is walk thinking you were going to do the fifteen minute thing which is the perfect. It's perfect down for me. That's what I thought. I was going to be a part of and when you guys were talking about doing the whole thing I didn't want to encourage it one because that's not really what I came to do and but I didn't WanNa discourage it because just because I already went doesn't mean you shouldn't be more adventurous. Okay. Well, I still legit Said Nothing and Somehow Moco Conspirator. Well, I don't know who to point the finger out because it All happened so fast but all I know is that may enterpise was taken from me and has yet to return has yet returned. That's what I was GONNA ask you if you've found other forms of peace. No, and we've been podcasting today, which is not not peaceful, but it just doesn't bring me the inner peace that like coloring in the nature does do you think that after we finish podcasting you'll find inner peace because we like though feel reward -CCOMPLISH accomplished like maybe. And then you'll really be able to relax tomorrow we have a shit ton to do. So we'll say I'm thinking my model is might make a return around the weekend yet. You'll save some ip address will return maybe. Well cloudy. That's beautiful. Gift I. Hope You find what you're looking for. The same for you. There's nothing better than a Peaceful Claudia. So true and that's not me today I'm ready to fight and I. Hope you're Oh. We have some fighting to do today we mostly with Jerry Seinfeld and I'm saving it for the last story. So we can give all of our energies to it after we've covered the news because you guys you know Jerry Seinfeld. Funny Guy. You know, I watch his stand up and we look the same schick. House, you know all that stuff I never thought that I would disagree with him. So wholeheartedly, like he's not the man I thought he was no and I really look forward to getting into and ripping his op ed that he wrote about New York City. If you haven't read it, don't waste your time. It's literally ten sentences long and it makes no fucking. He's actually doesn't take that much time, but it's really good because at least for me, I saw his bed that he was rebutting a different article that New York City is dead, which I hadn't heard of before. So I was able to click on it and it just spoke directly into my Obviously, a negative article really speaks and Jerry's attempt to being positive but just like a lack of understanding of the world around him, really frustrating lack of awareness and a lack of facts and the other guy was shopping facts in like he didn't WanNa be saying what he was saying none of us want this to be out in wants to be the truth. Nobody wants it to be the rally, but it's reality and we'll get to it. Okay we'll get there's drama there's so much drama, but without further ado, each time to deliver the stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning post. And by the way I think I figured out actually what is really stopping my inner peace and it's my rda Ch- flare ups. Oh, get it out. Get it out. You guys. Today's episode is brought to you by Liquid Ivy. 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All their products are bomb and this went actually really speaks to me totally. Okay. First story some extremely exciting news the real ADS Gar Sell Boo. Co. Host. Wow carcelle has been named the newest co host of the real variety has learned exclusively she is joining the syndicated talk show following the departure of Tamara Mary Housley, who announced earlier this summer that she had decided to exit the show after six seasons. The seventh season of the real kicks off on September twenty. First, the panel will feature oursel- Lonnie loved Jinnai my and Adrian Heart and absolutely love. Lonnie love. But back to our sell what a fabulous cast we spoke about tomorrow's departure we were coming up with ideas of who we thought would be her replacement and Garcia didn't cross my mind I couldn't have. Dreamed up a better and I love the surprise like someone who I love who didn't even think of one hundred right there in front of me was right there in front of us. This is obviously so exciting because we've come to know and love Gar- from housewives I'm curious I'm assuming she's going to on housewives to have a housewife whose on the nationally syndicated daily show where she's probably going to have to talk about how sites I find it to be. So interesting what I find interesting that her schedule is so fucking busy she's always using grand. She was ready to busy for housewives a daily show in the like. Being a Ho someone, the shows is nonstop. Air So. Early you prepare all day. Then you have one the next day like it's so much work full. Time job and it never stops like you're on all year except for hiatus I really don't know how she can feasibly do this and housewives and all the other projects she was juggling. That were already making it hard for her to be present. Ready didn't go to Teddy's retreat and didn't go here and didn't go there. So I want to believe that she can do it all but I, I don't know, and also even if she can't do house I've say like because that just seems like so much I don't know how you do show like. The real and then also produce an act and being movies like she was doing on house is because like you said, this is a full full full time job actually no, that's a really interesting point that I just like breeze over that you made before it's like how can you be on i? Don't I don't I can't think of any housewife who's ever been to TV not scripted to TV shows at once housewives and like a talk show the only thing that's similar for that I can think of is poor shot and her radio show and it really added so much. Drama to the show because she would say things on the radio show that she then has to answer for on House but a lot of house is like go on the real when they do their press. That's interesting. Yeah and if they they recap some of the shows but I do think it adds a layer of drama which I just find interesting but Garcia fell put out a statement saying I'm thrilled to be joining the dynamic bold diverse women on the award winning talk show the Real my love for pop culture and news blended with my natural gift of Gab has always gravitate. Towards a talk show environment. It's also exciting that happening right after might amazing time joining the real house is the beverly hills that sounds fine. Lionel. Yeah. Yeah. No I can't I'm like loving her so much we we we've got none of her we barely not enough and I feel like we really get to know her and her confessionals and they're so short and if you like the real would basically be like along confessional for confessionals are the best of our south finding. Ugly. She actually thinks of all the women I live for I'll be upset if this is the job that. She. I mean not upset but I'll be disappointed if this she took this job instead of housewives I really don't see a world where someone can do both. It would be a first unless she wants her slate clean of all the other things. Then she could also has is seasonal. That's true and so is the real because they're not filming right now it's interesting. I'll be very curious to see what happens. I feel like she likes being a housewife I think so too. She's a great housewife. She had a great per season she didn't even have to get so involved in make enemies. But. She has a great take on things. I think she she can be a real staple Chevy, a real housewife your they don't want to see I'm not ready for joining over. So I. Hope that it's not final even though it sounds like that I hope that it's not final. I love this casting like whoever's who's ever idea? This was like needs to promotion. Fabulous. Can't we watch and like there was a lot of hype about who would fill the role like I feel like the hype like my expectations were met. Yeah. No I. Know met exceeded. I'm here for it. I'm so excited. Same. CONGRATS, Carcelle. Congrats to the real on just like having an amazing O'CONNELL now. Yeah. Okay next story. So exciting a little happy Baby News Liam Michelle gives birth to her son with her husband's Andy Rice Liam Michelle has given birth to her first child people reports sources told people that the glee star and her husband welcomed bb boy on August twentieth quote everyone's happy and healthy, and they're extremely grateful. They quote an insider stating about the couple I literally turns to you like a few days almost like has been pregnant for six years or what and I feel like this baby's over. To really I feel we just announced she was pregnant. I feel like I've been seeing like her instagram baby bump picks for me because I don't follow her oh I do that I don't feel ended. She's been real quiet and you know going through cancellation whatever your thoughts only Michelle is very stressful and being pregnant is obviously not ideal. So I'm glad that babies healthy and everyone's good because that's truly matters truly all that matters and very happy for her and her her family. It's an exciting time it is. Now, the leak in me is like you know what she in Corey have had a baby you can go down that road. It's too dark. No, and every you know she's She's found her piece and you know what? As someone constantly searching for my piece? I'm happy for her. Yes. That was all you can hope for someone is for them to find their inner peace. True. So true. Okay. Next up. Paris. Hilton opens up about the secret terrifying abuse she suffered as a teen Paris has been in the news a lot because she has a new documentary. This is Paris premiering September. Fourteenth on her Youtube Channel I think it's like a youtube original I'm so excited me to the Cuban selecting. Great people to do those youtube documentaries with I completely. Agree I. Find Her to be so interesting fabulous. A close personal friend of yours. Oh of course. Yes. That's why we love her and I just love the documentary and I also feel like she could write a memoir soon we'll. It's like member. The American mean that was like a documentary and honestly I wanted more every time I get like. A some sort of video about her life and you just see her in a different light than the one that she's always. It's so interesting. She's so interesting and Smart Egeland she's on Kardashian. That's the thing that so. Why people I think are obsessed with a of Renault's Paris Hilton, girl heiress all that stuff but she's actually like so smart and that's what I think people. Really liked about the American mean and now I think that this is like a way more in depth and I think the youtube documentary spaces the perfect place. Yeah. It reminds me a little bit of like Jessica Simpson's memoir very similar like she also is so smart. That's not what you would think of when you I think of her right. But when you take the time to hear her story and listen to her, you're like, oh. This person is so smart right and Jessica Simpson has a billion dollar brand as adults dare. Similarly. But they get stuck into this dumb blonde bubble yet no one. It's so offense it. So offensive, it's so simplistic. So simplistic way back to the story. Okay. In her new documentary, the entrepreneur and Reality Star reveals for the first time. The horrific abuse she says, she endured as a teen while at Boarding School in Utah. Quote I buried my truth for so long Hilton tells people exclusively of the mental emotional and physical pain she says she underwent while at Provo Canyon school. In the late nineties quote. But I'm proud of the strong woman I've become people might assume everything in my life came easy to me but I want to show the world who I truly am years before she became a household name on the simple life in two thousand and three Hilton was a teen living in New York City's famed Waldorf Astoria Hotel with her parents, Rick and Kathy Hilton and her younger siblings crazy also Waldorf ever gonNA open back up oh no daylight closed. For. Renovations like five years ago and they said, hi, we're closing for a full year. No one can stay here. Literally Obama used to say there and there were thirty against that. Yeah. Known the whole and it takes it's a hotel that takes up an entire city block and they never reopened new but I believe they must have plans to reopen because i. haven't read anything that was like they're not reopening, but it's been legit five years totally. That's very strange I'm glad. You brought that up. She said along with the privileges of her big city life came big temptations quote. It was so easy to sneak out and go to clubs and parties. My parents were so strict that it made me want to rebel. They'd punish me by taking my cell taking away my credit card, but it didn't work I would still go out on my own way literally like we are all Paris Hilton we are all parakeets taking away off those such dark time nine. Real. And good punishment like I learned my lesson when my phone got to. Lower your listen. So she's been teasing this on Youtube series on her instagram, they've been promoting it a lot and there's like these big announcement like something. She's GonNa reveal and she's been hyping up the series with this kind of bombshell and I guess that this is it. Yes. She says that eventually her parents were fed up and made the decision to send their then seventeen year old daughter to a series of boarding schools have claimed to focus on behavioral and mental development the last of which was Provo Canyon school where she would stay for eleven months almost immediately after she arrived quote i. Knew it was going to be worse than anywhere else the abuse she face she says took place on a daily basis quote it was supposed to be a school but classes were not the focus at all from the moment I woke up until I went to bed it was all day screaming in my face yelling at me continuous torture when people reached out to the rule for comment they responded originally opened in Nineteen seventy-one Provo Canyon school was sold by its previous ownership in August two thousand and we therefore cannot come in and operations or patient experience S- prior to this time patient. Oh that's so true students do you. Interest also crazy that the school is still technically open Y- for long she said the staff would say terrible things they were constantly making me feel bad about myself and bully me I think it was their goal to break down and they were physically abusive hitting and strangling us they wanted to instill fear the kids. So we'd be too scared to disobey them. Three of her former team classmates also appear in the documentary making similar allegations about the school including that they were often forced medication and held down by restraints as punishment. Oh my God this is not a school. No, she said one of her classmates told staff that Hilton had plans. To run away she said she was placed in solitary confinement. They would use that as punishment sometimes twenty hours a day, but that's what they do in prison. That is so crazy see that's the thing about Paris and she still multifaceted like tells you and then she has this whole story on the other side Oh my gosh I had seen like the headlights on instagram headlines that Harrison was opening up an hundred commentary about like abuse that she suffered as a child. This is just an entirely other levels. So she stayed there for I'm the documentary comes out in September so we don't know everything, but I'm curious to know did she tell her? Parents and they took her out she said attempt to tell her parents about the conditions at the school were fruitless I. Didn't really get to speak to my family maybe once every two or three months we were cut off from the outside world and when I tried to tell them once I got in so much trouble I was scared to say it again, they would grab the phone rip up letters I wrote telling me no one is going to believe you and the staff would tell the parents that the kids were lying. So my parents had no idea what was going on Oh, my God that's I mean to me it's like one of. The most fucked up things in the world is like when you had your child over to someone like whether it's a camper school like a teacher and something happens to to me that's just like so I can't even imagine being a parent and having have had that happen on. This is so sad that so sad actually that something I'm you talked about in the last redheads episode because it's an instance of sexual abuse at a boarding school, and it's like not only are these institutions in place to protect children. But when something does go completely and utterly wrong when the institution itself completely fails the children again by letting it go unpunished or. Letting it happen and again USA gymnastics. Hello Right. It's like when these institutions are not only created to protect children not only when they do the opposite and then they literally get no justice like it's so fucked up like those are the stories that like make my blood boil yet it's it's so great to mention that this quote unquote school was probably like a hundred thousand dollars a year right so that's what you're paying for right that's terrible. Oh my God and how interesting I wonder if she still keeps or any of the classmates famous or. A dozen say, but we'll we'll hear from them in the documentary that's interesting I mean I never went to like a boarding school or a military school, but I've always been fascinated maybe it's like zoe one on one in me I'm just like, yeah. I think there's a difference between boarding school. This is a behavioral school. They even called they. They literally called the student of patient. That's. Crazy, this is probably more similar to a military type school. But even military schools like regular ass military schools aren't like this like they're like the military. Yeah they're strict. Yes. This is abusive yet. That's crazy. Yeah. Really crazy. Really sad but I look forward to hearing more of Her story in the documentary and always getting like a more well rounded picture of a person who I admire right and you know she's had such an interesting life. And the more we learn about her through these types of documentaries it actually makes sense like Howard why she ended up here and like why she was a party girl she rebelling and she was out every night when she was twenty one, which we consider like the golden age of like potsy pictures like her Britney Spears in the car you know but it's Like it was very much a reaction to things that had happened in her life. I don't know like I just test with her. Yeah. No. Obsessed with her as well and I think a youtube documentaries really the perfect format to hear her story. She's had such a long career even just reading that this was in two thousand and three like we're almost twenty years. Two Thousand and three I mean it's not shocking if you ever if you've recently watched it looks like it's from the seventies. It's so blurry I knew the jokes and one liners I mean the like Walmart are they just posted something from simple I know their content will never not be evergreen like it's relatable. No matter what time relating in Semitism somebody's really If, you think about how long she's been around and at the top of her game, I would sit are one of the biggest celebrities in the world and I thought that even when she was seventeen yeah, for sure. So I hope him makes a an appearance in the documentary mean their friendship is also another reason why she's so interesting when you think about all the important pop culture moments like in the last twenty years, Paris Hilton has really been A. Part of them and you can't say that without the Kardashians. No, you can't. She also said in a recent interview Harris said that she decided to freeze her end her oh Kim inspired her to no way. She said, she introduced me to her doctor and it was so inspired by her to actually do it I. Think every woman should do it because you can really control have that Oh, my God I need to get married. I. Love Their Friendship Love. Those. Loves it loves it that it's just you know this it's hot. It's so hot. So hot I just I will I love reporting on stories on her just because she's a fabulous interesting gal and a good time. Yeah totally. Agree well. We'll keep you posted documentary. It will be interesting. They said Youtube documentary sometimes they release them episodically is it a series like the Eight okay. There's a chance it's like a two hour documentary and it's just like a one time thing that's what the Demi Levato was and that one was really good. Sorry Theo scratching the bet he'll. He's fucking working. He's being crazy. It is everything. Okay. Honestly I feel like he's feeling neglected. Okay. Calm down. So yes, bottles was a two hour documentary but Justin Bieber's was like a TV show and they released episodes like every week or the trying to say like he loves Paris because she. So she such an animal rights activist and he's actually seen her dogs playhouse on instagram and he's jealous and mommy build me that. The podcast I can make some money to fucking buy you a house right so separating a Muckilteo man. Yeah. So I don't know if it's a series or a show movie but one hundred percent be watching this definitely saying it's nice to have something to watch these days extra yellowstone Oh my God yeah. Yeah. Because you've been bothering me about it and then Kelly Clarkson was on twitter talking about Oh she loves it so like she would love it it's so fucking good I hope I've entire smothers watch too and I'm a little behind I'm actually in. Shit. What's the name of the Group there's obviously a group for ranch showstoppers over Chester's and in and my trying to look at it because there's like spoilers a few episodes behind because I haven't been watching here but I look forward to catching up. Also things were catching up on. I just wanted to mention that I started the. Finding Freedom Harry, and Meghan So when we went to Walmart, if you watch Patriot I bought that book I've learnt Spoiler Alert I've been looking for like a celebrity book to read but there aren't a bunch on the market right now. so as either that or Demi. Moore's book and I went with finding freedom. I just wanted to know I actually think that you made the wrong choice. Well, no I disagree because I now want to talk about it and I have something to Stanton podcast. So for that, it's worth. It, but let me just because you wondering why we spoke about it and we were like is this propaganda or is this like a true story and they say in the book, the crown is not allowed to give official seal of approval to biographies or books written about them. But just know that like we are very, they basically said Megan gave us the privilege even though she really can't and they're doing she probably did of course not. But in the in the hardest way ever, they're trying to make this entire story Seem. So happenstance, it's like an Meghan just happened to be here and she happened to fall into the Harry's lap like it but. What they're not realizing is they're actually making it. They're giving Gravitas to the people who think that like Meghan Markle. So calculated like she fought her way to get Harry and it was all a plan that you wanted to destroy the crown like they're. They're not realizing that they are actually making out to be quite calculated like she just went when she took this trip to London. That's where I'm out when they met. It's like she did everything in her. Power to meet powerful people and it's an she had lunch with this person and that's when she had lunch with Morgan and lunch with this and then dinner and they were describing these people royal started. So House like all these fancy famous people and then she got the date with Harry and it was just like it's not happenstance, but they're trying to make it seem like this whimsical journey, right but it's not. Part of the book that really bothers me they just act like everything she does is like. headed. So they're to show she's always been philanthropic philanthropies always been like a really core part of her. Childhood. And they just go on and on about how when she was in a sorority and she did the dance a thon. It was always you know using her sorority for charity and I'm like literally every in the world has dance with down a sorority is it has to be philanthropic. They all have a philanthropic arnold so they were just making. It's so crazy. Yes. Like when you've had your resume in your yes. Oh my God. That's crazy. They were just stretching so hard I. Know I'm only thirty pages into the. Book I do like it just because see I don't really know mega and there's this divide people are like is she calculated la La or did all this happen to a nice girl and like is it all whimsical fairytale and while the book is kind of making me feel like it somewhere in the middle I do feel like she she has that markle sparkle because even when they talk about her career like she was not even at the height of her career before Harry suits like, okay, she had A. Supporting role on a cable show. Good Cable Network USA, but she just kept getting places and meeting these people and because people were taken by her, you know she had that sparkle and that's what's interesting. It's like she she the most talented actress in the world. No but she was really one of the most beautiful and she just had this like charisma about her that all these famous people like wanted to be her friend even before she even when she became friends with Serena Williams, they met at a super bowl party like she had something and that's interesting. Yeah and that can't be replicated. No. That is so important actually reminds me of this month right has spoke. Because the main character, Kate and bright-eyed she has that it what you feel. You're better smarter more interesting happier funnier. person around her right and that's what I'm getting from the book is that she had that markle sparkle in her eye yeah. Okay. To officially the MARKLE sparkle. Yeah. But but I do think it's a little bit of both I think the way people feel about Meghan markle on both sides like. There's truths in all of it I see it I think it's also interesting knowing that she gave the green light for this book in that she probably told them everything that's written and. Therefore you have taken with a grain of salt, but it is interesting to hear how she wants to be exactly and wait by the way. Giving her seal of approval there they say like Megan can't officially give her seal of approval but they have direct quotes from her and Harry sitting in their bedroom five years ago you know what I mean like, what how did you know that that's crazy. One friend recounted about something that literally happened ten years ago. The fuck knows that it's just very specific. The book is a compilation of quotes that is so crazy. Yeah and they love to in the morning I, think I'm going to read it after you. Yeah it's cute I finish it by next week's episode a week after an hour here yet and I'll read it right after you're making me happy together it's. Even, if it's full of lies, it's like a beautiful fairytale new cement. It's interesting like what lies people want to told and I think what's interesting is just like all the famous influential people who got her to Harry. Who are these people? Also, it's like if you look at the book through another Lens, a really is like a a like fan. EXCITES. Book about a girl we we read a book like that for the redheads it's fiction. It's So. Funny. Okay. Cool. Next story big story of the Week Laurie Laughlin and her husband Massimo generally newly get prison time in the college admission scandal actress Flory Lachlan will serve two months in prison and her husband fashion designer. Mossy Moji newly will serve five months after the couple pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges in the college mission scandal. A federal judge on Friday accepted plea deals from the famous couple in video sentencing hearing after. Initially vowing to fight the charges Lachlan Injia newly reverse course after a judge denied their motion to dismiss the case in May. Prosecutors said the couple paid five hundred thousand dollars to secure their daughters admission to USC by masquerading them as Catholic recruits. I mean I can't believe that this saga has ended. You know like for the most part like she soul surfer sentence intense but the trial is over technically for her and for felicity. I feel like this is a light sentence, I? Feel like the prison that Felicity Huffman. Went to the type of Facility that Roy Laughlin is going to go to are not maximum security federal prisons. She'll be fine I just think it's crazy that like one they actually got sentenced to like she's actually going to jail like when felicity Huffman went to jail I was like this is so crazy and Lachlan pled guilty and they did all these things to delay it and I really thought that all that legal. Maneuvering was actually going to get her no prison time Yep on the one hand it does seem like a short sentence. But on the other hand at one point I actually thought she might aid prison completely because they were pleading not guilty I thought that they might find a loophole as a cover virus like people who are in prison are getting out. So I thought that maybe they would get off Scot free but to hear that they're doing time and it's five months for Maasim. Oh, two months for her. I wonder if there's going to be like Teresa and Joe like they serve at the same time because they don't have kids who are like under eighteen so I think they can actually serve at the same time. Yeah. I think it's probably better to serve at the same time. Well Yeah. It gets over like trees jolting less at four years because they did back to back because their kids are. So Young. Yeah. But then it's also good for them that they didn't have to go at the same time because in their kids would have had no one at home. Yeah. The two years so does drag it on. Yeah. Each scenario is different. We'll keep you posted on when they are called. They also had one hundred and fifty thousand dollar fine, which is like nothing to them she'll be. Yeah and I'm sure some part of them is is happy to put this chapter behind them. Then they'll serve their time in and this is just getting everyone closer to closing the book on Yes really crazy big story cultural moment high whenever I hear updates in this I always like how much closer are we to Olympia J bringing back her Youtube Channel and this brings them close back. No, she liked brought it back into the video and then. She did something I bought Lebron's or FRAHM. She did a bunch of videos she did like Tuzon Tiktok with her man. Yes. But she hasn't been consistently influencing since all this went down. Yeah I'm sure it. She wanted a wedge been eight months. I actually think that now that the legal portion is over, she will come back in a more permanent way because I'm sure was annoying for her and annoying for her fans for her to talk about the thing that's going on in her life of course, and she did mention in one video she can't talk about it but she did come back eight months ago dropped to videos and was never to be seen from again. Interesting. Okay I do. You're right. Maybe there will be some. Word from her now maybe I don't know I feel like in so many it's so crazy 'cause it's like it really has nothing to do with her because it's about her mom but it was like her going to college you know yeah. So it is about her I wonder if she had to go to court or anything. I don't think. So I don't think. So because everything in that case was really public. Would have seen her go to court I mean to me the the most confusing and on answer part of this whole college admissions scandal is what happened to William H macy. felicity Huffman husband didn't get charged didn't go to jail. She took it all. He probably wasn't on the emails maybe that's that's just a crazy yet like maybe he used her computer. That's crazy. Yeah. He was just kind of left out of the whole thing. There are the Paparazzi pictures of him like meeting her a court wants and he looked like Sofa clumped but other than that he's been excluded from the narrative. Yeah interesting. He's glad for it. Totally. Okay. Next up Jerry Seinfeld has written in op Ed in the New York Times saying so you think New York is dead parentheses. It's not. Jerry. Is Responding to a linked in articles toast article. Who thinks could go viral on Lincoln yet from a man named James Altschuler it's called a New York. City is dead forever. Here's why so I I read Jerry Seinfeld's article really short really not thought out at all just like his opinion that New York City will always be New York. City. Because the argument that things are going to become remote you're going to be working virtually doesn't work look at Silicon Valley they could do things virtually but that was the worst analogy but they choose to be together you can't you know let me get. You can't make that type of interpersonal -cation here quote from Jerry, you know why you can't do all that. You know why there's new energy says Jerry quote energy attitude and personality cannot be promoted through even the best fiber optic lines. That's the whole reason. Many of US moved to New York. In the first place you ever wonder why Silicon Valley even exists. I have always wondered why do these people all live and work in that location? They have all this insane technology why don't they just spread out wherever they wanna be and connect with their devices because it doesn't work that's why what a bad analogy look I really don't. WanNa ribbon to Jerry Seinfeld because he's a nice guy who means well, but like first of all. Jerry. This article. Your privileges showing like I can't like to first of all to compare. His experience living in New York the last eight months like to compare it to anyone. Else's is just so outrageous. We all know celebrities live in this bubble but jerry is part of a very elite group of celebrities who are mega rich like just because they're celebrity if a couple million dollars like that doesn't mean you're like rich he is loaned the rich forever. Yeah. He is one of celebrities his show Seinfeld like he made five, hundred, million dollars she will never. Have to work again, he makes sixty million dollars for netflix special. That's an hour like he is on another planet of wealth. So to even compare or even try and to relate to what people in New York have been going through live in rentals and don't have five hundred million dollars in the bank is borderline insulting and him fun of people who have gone to Florida or Tennessee or anywhere else in the country saying they're pastelle filled lives like what he doesn't realizes. What you pay for New York City is the experience of the city. There's absolutely none of that when you a person living in a one bedroom apartment with your family and you're paying this premium to live in a city that no longer exists in the way at once it, you would be a fool not to leave no and to dismiss people who've left not real new, Yorkers and people who gave up on. New. York. It's like no actually Jerry these people have kids and lives and bills to pay, and it's not feasible to live in new. York and it's not enjoyable anymore I don't know if Jerry you've stepped out of your fifty million dollar apartment to see what's going on in the Entire time horse on my God of course. But like to this whole article lack real understanding and just kind of dismissed what people are going through a New York and it's like it's impossible financially to live in. New. York. The taxes are GONNA go up. This city is just insane. It is so filthy. There's public urination everywhere googlers. Crime. You Kill Your House after dark like we're not being drastic. This is the reality of what's going on in New York right now as a result of all the shit that's gone on in the world and it's nobody's fault but don't deny it happening and to like we should stay here because there's this energy that can be replicated no second tier cities or tier two cities they're going to replicate this sort of any place where you can live and and have a yard and and. Be Able to go outside and you can't go outside in New York City. The mayor just said that he's not gonNA open up indoor dining until two, thousand, twenty, one you once it gets cold outside there will be no restaurant. There is absolutely and he makes Jerry's saying that this writer is just upset he can't go to the theater. This writer owns a standup comedy club where he can't make a make a living and he even said that he tried to he did a social distanced. Night and they got shut down. So what is a person like this supposed to do and Jerry Seinfeld, I'm sure now it's like, yeah, you your comedy specialist virtual. I'm sure you do zoom fundraisers I'm sure you're living large but if you're a comedian who has made it yet in you rely on open mic nights and doing stand up comedy and there's absolutely been none of that for the last six months. How are you making any money? You have to move flex and you'll have. This article basically was so short and weird, and it just really dismissed the concerns of working people who are struggling right now and just hearing you come out of Jerry Seinfeld Mouth I. Think was meant to be inspirational but just came off so elitist in like Jerry you have no idea what's going on in the world and when I first saw the headline for the article I was kind of really I was like, Oh, wait New York City's not dead. Okay. Cool. Let me here why that's exciting because it's really fucking sad to know that you live in a place that's not going to come back for for being generous for at least five years and that's me being. Like concert kind behind. So I've read his articles probably fifteen twenty second tenses of pretty much nothing. No facts I clicked on the article of the one of the guy he's rebutting the guy he called a putz. The article is so in-depth using sad stick. You know that according to yelp sixty percent of restaurants in the United States have closed. Wow, that's terrible. Jerry what what do you have to say about that? What you say to restaurant tours and people who are working in the service industry who have lost their jobs Jerry's article was not rooted in fact, it was rooted in feeling his emotion I don't care how much you love New York is fucking sucks, and that's not a political statement. and. You know when I first read Jerry's Article Isaac Disagree that New York Sucks Right now. But I agree with you that it can come back because we've been saying like New York is dead, but it's not gonna be forever New York always balances battening. But when I clicked through to the other article, this guy had Britain, he completely convinced me it's not coming back every he right in he wrote in his linked in TC said now it's completely dead quote but NYC always always bounces back. not this time, but NYC is the center of the Financial Universe opportunities will flourish here. Again, not this time NYC has experienced worse. No, it hasn't. So he talks about how all of these things New York City has experienced worse when crime was really bad or when there's a war going on but at that time, there were still business and opportunity and things happening in the city culture, and now there's none of that Wall Street doesn't need to be on Wall Street, the culture, the food that people would have moved to the city for there's no restaurants open. No, the article the original article says that three of the most important reasons people move to New, York City our business opportunities, which now are completely virtual promote can. Be Done from anywhere culture which no longer exists. There is no theater. They don't have plans to bring back Broadway until twenty, twenty one and even when they do, it's going to operate at less than fifty percent capacity. What theatre can make money and stay in Russia's under those terms in New York, which is such an expensive place to own a business right? How are you going to pay your performers when you're bringing you haven't had shows by then it will be what ten months yeah and you're operating let's say fifty percent then it's such a tough industry to begin with. And also, the third thing that people moved to New York City for is the food witch without restaurants it's just roach-infested. Kitchens. The, just I don't know what I think. Jerry was trying to be hopeful and aspirational, and he just came off let him telling you that tone deaf and unrelatable and like just the dismissive nature of his words towards people who are just doing what they think is best for their families and and for their financial freedom and in order to survive it just felt so on. tone-deaf that's off for it and the article to me felt really cruel like first of all this guy who wrote it I've never heard of him. He's a former hedge fund manager. Jerry. Opens his piece by calling him some Putts who? He said some punts putts on linked in wailing and whimpering everyone's Gone I want twenty nine back and then there's like the New York Post writes in article saying Jerry Seinfeld. Slam rips writer behind Viral New York. City is dead forever essay. I'm sorry he didn't rip a thing is anything. He made this writers article more compelling yet to be honest I'm curious what actual New Yorkers because I saw the media. Pickup Jerry like Jerry Nyland's poor Lincoln man and honestly I read both articles and I thought the exact opposite I thought his was well thought out and Jerry's was just like a bunch of notes in his phone on I'd be curious but actual New Yorkers think like speaking of what you real New Yorkers think we are real New Yorkers. Yes. Cutting riches talking about this not only have we been in the city. The entire time this was our first time leaving. But as much as we're self hating New Yorkers, we've lived in the city for ten years we grew up long. Island I went to college upstate I have touched every corner of this great stay all into college in New York we are turning to New Yorkers. I've been in every corner of this great state to tell you that state great now mountain and. Then as you rightly to criticize it and certainly this city in great. Actually the rest of the state a seems to be doing. All right. Yeah. Because we have been there but I just think like the whole article really wrapped up what we started talking about at the beginning of quarantine where it's like celebrity voices right now are just so unnecessary and they're really highlighting like how celebrities living different world and. Did just that one, hundred percent. I completely forgot about that part of quarantine where celebrities just became like irrelevant human beings roaming the earth who were accustomed to living on a different planet alien down here with the rest of us and we don't want to hear from you. But that's exactly how I feel right now I don't feel comfort solace relate ability from any celebrity right now especially, not though not someone who has a three foot parking garage on the upper west side is telling me that New York is a great place to be and who has most likely been in the Hamptons the entire time or some country house that he owns. It really puts a bad taste for Seinfeld. Sorry Jerry a put a really bad taste in my mouth when like I was looking on twitter to see what other people were saying, and obviously the first tweets that come up are like from verify people who are trying to find like. Profound quotes. When they tweet the text of the tweet is a quote from the article that meant to be profound but it's nonsense in the article like Jerry hit the nail head and that's the other thing. It's like I'm no English major but not this is not well written and it was so short. No, it was so short and it's like if you WANNA come for this guy who wrote a really fucking really long it took me a long time to read it. We were waiting to go out and walk is like we've gotTA finish. What's his name? James I gotTa Finish James This article. Yeah if you WANNA come for an article like this go point for point. Yeah. Point four point he was just fighting facts with the way that he feels tell me how if even though only forty percent of restaurants in the US are under operation and New York sent city is a cultural center for food. Tell me how that that is not impacted? No one. His city is still great and how business owners restaurant owners are supposed to stay. What are we supposed to do? It makes no sense. It makes no sense. To Jerry this is not sorry if you read Jerry's up at and you felt moved by it in any way, it's not rooted in fact. So lovely this idea come comeback. Sherzer. But we'd be real ferment because that's not how it seems. No that's not how it seems in. There's not one plan not one even idea of a plan in place to help New York comeback just to continue this tumble into despair. So was actually only going to get worse Gerald and I hope you enjoy the Hamptons while it does just to let me know how the weather is out there. Let's move on is our final story got our final story to our dear toaster segment, which is a favorite day of mine and it's brought to you by health code you WANNA eat healthy. But you probably don't have the time budget or know how right you'll love what we just discovered. Easy. Delicious. Perfectly. Nutritious meal replacement shake from Health Code Health Club, wasn't created by some celebrity it was formulated. Yes. It wasn't created by Jerry Seinfeld. It was formulated by scientists who specialize in metabolism nutrition if you WANNA lose fat but keep lean muscle mass. 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Hope you're enjoying your well-deserved time off. I looked quick any art. Thank you. We really are things. I have a quick and dirty your toasters today at a meeting with my co worker relationship with we always talk about non work when we do connect and we are really close. She's a fellow female leader, a huge software company I worked for anyway I messages pulled up on my computer and was clicked on a messages with my husband I had just into boo pictured him. He was gone for a couple of days honestly, not super just laying on the couch when it was fucking hot without a shirt on and my boobs are nothing to write home about anyway. Do you know where this goes I shared my screen on the zoom and do not click out of I message. So she may be saw the pick for ten seconds. I'm shook we both didn't mention just moved on but oh, my God I have the worst pet joy textron apologize off. Please help. Thank you in embarrass toaster. See. This is why I don't have a job and this is I don't take teddy pigs. This is why I don't put I message on my computer. Is Why because you know what I'm sure. It's really fucking convenient quality desert our whole. You guys right in the chat sending links furiously when I need to send a link to send it from my computer to my email and add it to my I message on my phone and yes, it's annoying and I would love to have I message. Out But this is the thank you for reminding me if I almost slipped up and added. Thank you for reminding. By I don't you're missing out it's such a fabulous. Okay. So the price pays your co workers seeing you jugs string cherry is if you lost village and I never do it right and if I were at the once in my lifetime that I will share my screen like every apple will be clear forced quitted and there will only be the one. Up on the page and maybe you share your screen too often. So like you forgot what a big burden, it is such a burden but am not I'm not saying like you should have done this or should have the night. You know what I'm sure like people share this all the time and people have I message on their computers all the time in people send their kids all the time and it's not all the time. This happened I'm honestly really sorry that it. I think you've gotTA pretend like it didn't. Yeah. No I think in terms of this actual situation, it's terrible that it happened but you've moved on. It just keep just ignoring it like, yeah, and like obviously she definitely saw it. She's writing into her podcasts that she likes saying I saw my co workers tickets. What do I do do I say something to Podcast co-worker listens to yeah hopefully they advised her not to say anything will advise you not to say anything and then it's just like a funny story you can each tell at dinner parties. Yeah I. Think it's it's not I mean she my report to hr, but then would be an arc. And it seems like you has friends. So I think you're good yen also like she could reported hr, but it's not obviously not like you did on purpose you guys are friends I think she would know that and then like if she reports, you'd Hr for that. Then it's like she's being cruelty you. Yes. Obviously that was something personal for you to have to deal with as well. Would you in in this situation would rather be the girl who saw the boobs of the grows boobs got seen I mean. The girl who saw the BOOBS. But also like just depends on the boobs. Yeah. Like I I actually don't like my boobs so. Other. Yes. Of course. Okay and that's up Jackie and Claude. Hi, you. I hope you're enjoying every second of your much needed and deserved break. Thank. Thanks so much. We're having such a great, but I'm thankful that you chose Wednesdays as your data air. As I have quite the predicament I'm not sure exactly how how you'll be able to help me give advice but hopefully, this is for sure. Sorry I brought read the sentence somewhere I'm not sure how exactly you'll be able to give me advice. But hope this is for sure sign I need to express my feelings as I'm kind of in love with my best friend I'm gay. And he's insert air quotes straight he has a girlfriend, but they're more like roommates with completely opposite schedules him and I only hang out when his girlfriend isn't around because he claims she doesn't like me and all we do when we're together is bitch about her every time he and I hang out, he always makes elaborate dinners and certainly the best drinks I feel like I'm GonNa date every time and there's always an awkward tension in the air. There's been many times when he's asked me questions about my sexuality which I'm totally opening call with but one time. In one of these conversations he told me, he sometimes feels like me and conveniently backtracked when I tried to dig for more information. I. Can't tell crushing on me slash dealing with his own demons or is just genuinely being an amazing friend truth be told kind of a crush on him and have for a while so I wouldn't be too mad if his Florida behavior is just more than a friendly thing, I'm not sure what should happen next love you both so much thanksgiving the most premium content and most any advice sincerely helpless toaster. This is rough most gay people would advise not getting into a relationship with someone who's like straight like still figuring it out even though they say it's a right of passage like as a gay person, but it can be very tumultuous because that person's going through a lot and then you're getting brought into that and the you've already been on your journey like you're so happy in your salary, you almost might be taking a step back but you like him, you figure out. If it's more of a crush, your really love with him. Yeah. I think that is really good advice and also figure out if knowing if you guys make become more than a friendship that would ruin your friendship is if that's worth ruining your friendship, I feel like I dunno, you didn't describe your feelings that much. So I need to really know more about that because that's where I think the answer lies it just feels like maybe smitten not like your head over heels like. It's all fun when you know he has a girlfriend making dinners, but then it's like in together and you're paying your bills because that the person you WanNa be with right right I think it's the most boring and like answer and it's the one that's the least exciting. But it's just patients, and if this guy is feeling this way, he needs to figure it out for himself and it's going to take time and he needs. To come to these realizations. So I think just being there for him as a friend in ear for him, and also to give advice on your own experience would be really helpful for him and talk about it more. Yeah. You need to let him figure it out for himself. Right? You can't pull someone out of the clauses. So especially since he's in a relationship, so I it means ending his relationship. Then you know it's a whole. Terms, and you need to be patient for him but also, I would say while you're doing that focus on some things for yourself get out there. Maybe you know by the time he's ready for you. You'll be ready for him again. Yeah. I think most seasoned gay men and women would tell you to run because it's so tumultuous and it's such a long and you're you're so far in your journey that I don't know. I'm inclined to just ignore it but if you can't ignore the feelings, that's you need to dive more into your feelings what are they identify them? Is it across she loved him. You want to be married or you just like think he's cute. Yeah there's a difference. There is a difference alright third and final toasters, Hello Jackie and Claudia I hope all the campers and counselors are having a wonderful time on. Your vacation. It looks amazing. We're having the best time. Thank you so much. The cameras are thrilled to be here. The counselors are tolerating them. It's wonderful. Here's some background about my dilemma. I'm a toaster in my early twenties engaged and recently bought a house with my fiance I keep a super clean home and they just love the feeling of an organized space especially when I basically don't get to leave my house. Her fiance's mom comes to visit us a lot like a couple times a month for a weekend and generally it's great. We're both close with our families and always happy to have her recently when she's here, the dishwasher finished while I was in the shower. So she started loading it very nice of her to do later I notice she rearranged a couple of cabinets. I didn't think a lot of it, but it was definitely a little weird. Then the next time she came to visit I, went on a went out to run an errand and she. mentioned. That she saw clothes in the dryer. So she put them away again. Very nice at purdue but then I saw she rearranged my closet she puts us all the time Wayne Bins and undid my color coordinating would ask why she said Oh when I ask why she said oh I thought I'd help tidy up I'm a super clean and organized person when it comes to my closet I've spent a long time getting just right to me this really feels like stepping over a boundary and kind of like saying that she doesn't think my house is that. There's wrong with it. Now, I know that the right thing to do is expressed this to my husband and have him talk to her but she takes these things really badly like if someone is quiet around her asks her not to do something she will really say for weeks that they hate her and she's like super set. She's really sweet and she and my fiance are really close. I don't want to cause a big issue but this made me really uncomfortable android. What do I do she's coming back this weekend and? I'm seriously about to put on my closet because I can't and I Shan't say you are so lovely for being. So like Nice, about your mother-in-law staying in your house like for multiple weekends a month that's all there's only four and in the beginning I was like, I'm so lazy if someone wants to do my dishes and rearrange my cabinet, it's like, I'm so here for it but going through your closet and it's already color coordinated that is beyond cutting fucking strange new. It's a very like type controlling mother-in-law thing to do. When the dog peasy Marxist territory like that's what she's doing. So I just think you need to get a padlock and put it on the door I. Think you need to make it impossible for her to help around the house like stop leaving it in the dryer stopped leaving shit in the dishwasher like when she's around everything has to be done. Yeah. To get away from that's the stuff that like this girl doesn't mind her helping with you know, but it leads to her reorganize. That is still I would literally never do that. Yeah I would or maybe you could say something if you don't mind that she helps with the dishes and the laundry which sounds fabulous. I would just be like listen barb love what you've done with the place. Sickening. The barb down but just please don't go my closet because I have a weird way of organizing things and I have my outfits next week. I. Just it makes sense to me, and if you don't mind just like not going in there thanks no I this job with the husband like no but the husband's not going to do it, and then his mom's going to be crying out the best method of communication when it comes to like families and marriages is who's ever parented is has to do the communicating but the thing is it's like I agree it should be their problem but then you just. Put them in the middle there arguing with you about the other person with the other person about you and their. GOING GONNA every cabinet has it in her house she can do the cabinets classes. Like to go into your house and like literally open a cabinet where the cups are like there's bowls they're like that would drive me nuts. Okay. But like does look better doesn't matter. It's not her house on her choice. Okay. So then cabinets are off limits to get. She's literally padlock for all of them. Yeah I. Think you could try the husband route I. Don't think you'll get. It's GonNa be effective and it's just GONNA call. Between you and your husband and your husband and his mom, and so you just need to put on your big girl panties and be like, no I disagree because think about the the thing about from Barbara's perspective she comes over she cooks she cleans the ingrate is complaining like that's how she would see. For. Sure. So to her she thinks she's doing a nice thing and to normal people it's like get out of my shit so you can't make her feel like what she's doing is inadequate when at the end of the day like she thinks she's helping. Yes so I don't know where I land either way barbs going to be upset that someone told her to stop doing it and I think she'll be more upset if it comes from her kin. Oh, I totally disagree I. Think she'll be like, oh, the bitch it said you know but like you know she's probably like, oh, this is easy swab actually really but I I actually don't know the answer I think that you pick your battles, the dishwasher, the drier. Let it go for me. I would draw the line at the closet and so if you can't get a padlock on their I would just make. Up some bullshit excuse us to like your thing is organized by days of the week and you get it and it makes her process getting work for easier in the morning. Some Shit like that I'm standing with my first answer like making it impossible for her to do chores when she comes don't do your self more work you're punishing yourself. Yeah. But then you're avoiding an uncomfortable conversation when she comes to the weekend, no laundry and no dishes hand wash everything. Ok Washer undies with woolite in the sink and hand wash your dishes and let them dry on the counter your putting your undies in the dishwasher. John. I like that idea I think is best as making it possible for help or just. When she comes to visit a church like a busy itinerary or take when she comes to visit the House a shit hole. Oh, she doesn't even have time to get your closet or you know you could really use this benefit like don't do dishes or laundry the whole week then she comes and it's like, yeah. Okay. Your clothes are all over the place, but you don't have to clean all week free cleaning lady. Yeah I. think There's something to that there's something that are to work on all these menial. The owed no like, yeah. Give her projects. Yeah. Yeah like my Filofax needs organizing. My ROLODEX is a mess. Yeah, I. think that's the way to go. Good luck I don't think we gave very good advice there but let's dive into our TV recap. Wait before we do though we've been watching some movies here that I just wanted to. Share with the class because we've been really careful about the movies we've selected for the family to watch together and we've watched them really good one. So I just WANNA share them. One was bad education. We watch that like a week ago HBO. Jackman on HBO Max. It's about like a Ponzi scheme in a town near where we grew up and it's fabulous. I liked it so much such an interesting weird story allison. Janney, like any movie she's in just honestly perfection and I just love small town Ponzi scheme. I. Really. Do I just love honestly any Ponzi scheme like a Polka King. It's like a weird ponzis. When you think Ponzi scheme, you think like Bernie Madoff and business manager Jimmy Kook Resolute. Yeah you don't think Highschool Nate Archibald Dad, but it's really good that was Jackie's recommendation. H Max. Yeah really good. I. Liked that a lot really go then the other night we watch murder on the Orient Express. And while I'm not gonNA say all the way I recommend to you is because if you guys going to be like what the fuck is, she making us watching I just WanNa say I loved it it was really highly dramatized. The production value was sickening the train down all the different locations they were in. Istanbul they were just. It was so stunning. It's set in the nineteen thirties and the sets were so beautiful the costumes, the Little Lake Kinda felt like Broadway like Ya. But I guess that's like the vibe of Agatha. Christie, the cast was sickening the cast down. Everyone was more famous like who was that from where she from Poynton. Yes. Now, thinkers and I just want to say I didn't know like who did the murder on the express so like And I loved it and I loved the and like the mystery and the reveal and I love detective Hercule coup. Excuse me air. L. Cure Bahaa L. clear berlow I liked it a lot to there's no move hasn't been movies released for the last eight months. I to homepage is still showing me Kingston island like I need new movies. No I know. But I really like murder on the Orient Express the the the newest one with Johnny Depp and so if you like the Greatest showman. Yeah and you have patients for a little bad acting. You'll like it and we'll Josh Gad was in it yet also everyone I don't know just like people also the other movie that we watched two nights ago, which really got me in my feelings was big. You know only the only the brave only the brain, which is the granite, mountain firefighter hat chopped hotshot story, which is a story that I hadn't heard, and if you haven't heard a don't look it up yet because I actually liked being surprised by the ending but first of all. Of always had but have so much respect for firefighters like it was just like a real tribute to the firefighting industry. It was also star said it. I was thinking I'm like this platoon of twenty hot dudes Oh my God if you weren't cast as one of these dudes, you are nobody ugly. That's what I was thinking they had. Taylor. Kitsch. Miles Teller Josh Brolin like every they had the guy and I think you saw on the screaming like what is he from Yes rock Hudson from Hollywood Yes, he is so good. Yes. It was just like hot dudes in a fire station Jeff Bridges. Oh. Yeah. His character was a little annoying. Yeah. He thought he did about job. No. No I just thought it was going to be like more to him. It's an incredible story first of all and the movie was it was good. You know I have some no. But Oh yeah. It was a true story and it's it's a tough one to watch. But I think ultimately it's like. I didn't know this story. It's a story that more people need to know anything the best way to get these stories out there is through these high budget movies like this. So violent times it can it was painful. I think ultimately it's a story that we should all know. Yeah. So that's GonNa say I don't want to give away too much. It was really good great. All right now let's dive into our TB recap segment which, of course is brought to you by stamps dot com as we slowly adjust to a new normal we still need to be smart about how we do business luckily, they're stamps dot com to make things easier. Thousands of small business owners have discovered the benefits of stamps dot com. In recent months, they've been able to keep their businesses running and avoid the crowds at the post office. All from their own computers would stamps dot com you can print postage on demand and avoid going to the post office. You'll save money but discounted rates. You can't even get at the post office stamps. Dot Com also offered ups services with discounts up to. Sixty two percent and no residential surcharges stamps dot com brings all the mailing and shipping services. 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JUST GO TO STAMPS DOT COM click on the microphone at the top of the homepage and type in toast that stamps dot com click on the microphone at the top of the homepage and type in. Toast. Let's dive into real housewives of New York so much discuss finished up in Mexico flew to New York. This episode I felt too strong ways I was either feeling infuriated just like the lack of logic in mostly Darren does just like line of thinking and then I was also feeling board. There was so much like filler in this episode of things. Like. I truly didn't care about the therapy Leah's conversation with her mom. Yes I agree. But I actually took away some things from like the therapy session conversation with her mom whereas like sometimes it's really true nonsense maybe because I like Leah and I'm interested by Ramona that I found it to be interesting. But if it was like doritos therapy sessions just To the conversation also to to announce this morning that she is no longer housewife we will dive into her statement at the end of the recap of this episode because you know she's making it seem as though she made the decision to leave. Some of the other women are are supporting that for her Daily Mail is claiming that she was fired I personally believe she was fired because I don't think that she would leave on her own. Accord, why would she I mean she doesn't take accountability so she doesn't feel bad for anything that happened the season she in the reunion already and I feel if she thought she was going to be leaving. She might not show for the reunion because then she would have to be held accountable for everything and why not skip the reunion. If you're not going back, not showing up for a reunion is a luxury that only very rich housewives can. Afford because you are breaching contract and you do have to pay Bravo, and as we say, many times on this show, the realize of New York are not nearly as affluent as a lot of them rely on the show as their sole forming income. I didn't realize there is a monetary you're breaching your contract. Yeah. I did it. She could afford at least prompted she could afford it not everyone can afford it yet. No. Okay. So anyways, we'll. Get into the minute show of what might have happened there. But we finished up in Mexico. We start out with this fight between Ramona and Arinda and one Ramona needs to stop diagnosing everyone and like getting her physicians degree from Web MD, and then letting everyone know whites what psychological problems that they have because like that is so annoying and irresponsible and unnecessary, and as someone who watches this show I don't think that during this problem is anger. Thing I'm not sure she doesn't blow up. She's actually. So fucking dismissive condescending some of the anger management would like literally get all riled up screen throw things she doesn't do that angers not her problem. Her anger maybe doesn't allow her to see. Or have a conversation like she just I- denial it's like I. Don't I feel like I actually don't know her well enough to tell her what her problem is but the women seem to agree that it's anger. So let's say it's anger I was dead that am thought that Ramona's sends a text by accident because like she should have but you know what I kind of like. It's so funny 'cause Ramona really thought she was doing. Something helpful. The difference between Ramona and Arinda like during the does things to hurt while Ramona is dead wrong. She actually thinks she's helping no and she does hurt people in her attempt to help not her intention because she's wrong and she did everything she out everything in the wrong way like in her heart she thought it was the right way. She thought sending article about during the day Arinda would read it and recognize something in. ME. This, she genuinely felt that no, and the text was obviously first of all. There was so many things wrong with tax one in article. What are you saying about the article? Can we get a follow up message like what was your point? It just remember that it's following up from that line where like you're angry, you're angry the second thing. Why everyone else needs to be in the group chat made no sense to me and I did side with remote doing this. So wrong like no, I don't know any logical person could take. During decide now, just like investigating what I would have done in like pointing out what Ramona did wrong I don't think sending the text message was ever GonNa work but I did feel bad for that. It seems like everyone's really on her side and nobody backed her up. And it's like all the women went to defend Arinda at the dinner because they thought it was going to be a pylon, but it ends up being the opposite. It'd probably feel even more steadfast in her belief that she is right right and you know what? There's really what I realize like Ramona goes about everything in the wrong by and that's why during a dozen receive it fine. But llewellyn went about. In the right way with every by notes literally handles Durand up perfectly Oh in my notes Ramona's going about everything in the wrong way but in is going about it in the way and she's still completely shut down by so don't even start to say well, it's Ramona did not miss said that. is trying try literally like a child by child doing everything with kid gloves on and saying the right things not going get everything's prefaced with like you know a positive and just trying to get her feelings hurting render Arinda is completely unreceptive like she really does not know how to apologize or be compassionate, and so it's a terrific thing and and I'm glad that we have that comparison because it's easy to just be like, Oh, well, it's Ramona. She wanted has the wrong way. Of course, you enter about a throwaway sending group chat with an article like that is insane and I also think I love. Leah but she didn't need to be on the group text threat for a few reasons one she opted out of the conversation at lunch. She said, she was not joining it, and therefore she does not need to be in that conversation and to I feel like you've Ramona send it to the whole group. It's more mean girl than just sending it to the people that she chose who were involved in the conversation and Leah like Ramona leaving her out of the text message is bigger moment of like her not acknowledging as a true friend that's just wrong and I didn't agree with that at all yesh. Dorando like heart done like she's leaving you out. She's leading. It wasn't leaving her out. She wasn't getting her involved in this messy shit g ready said she did not want to be involved actually thought Ramona did her a solid by including her I? Think I completely agree the conversation between Luana to rent. That is exactly why Verandah is really unhinged like if you have a problem with Durand up bringing it up to her is living in the past people can have a gripe with you if you did something to them this morning. And? He's like we're talking about what happened on this trip so far you think that if we says, you said this about me yesterday that's living in the past and I'm GonNa bring up your Mugshot from traders rights, not the same no, and just because something happened this morning doesn't mean you've moved passing. You haven't even spoken about it. Yeah. It's just infuriating like I was really like my blood was boiling this person refuses of course, we've been knowledge even remotely wrong refuses to have a conversation about it, and then just literally like make stuff up and she's always like looking for her next tagline that she's GonNa put on March. It's like she doesn't even speak. English. Yes. She's just like trying to speak sayings. Yeah. No I totally agree which is why the news that she's not going to be on the show anymore was surprising because I do think she's a fan favorite but it was I was happy to hear it because we can't go on like this when the person is just being. So mean to everyone else and there's you can be a little mean. But like you apologize you own it, you move on you'd be mean in a new way next time like. But there's none of that with her and I feel like a lot of people are seeing this Arinda exit and thinking that it's going to be that. Romance. Exodus go. Sonya and I actually the only one who's in danger of being fired is Ramona too because I think lou is a national treasure with her cabaret show and she's finally she really she's the definition of she owned up to what she did. She did her time and now she's yes, she's drinking again. But in a more responsible way like eight, it doesn't have to be all one way or the other. So I think that and also I feel like they're rebuilding the show now or at least around Leah and Luan is a close friend of. I think Sonia everybody is just like she's so iconic New York housewife like a great. She's not on the show what is the show and by the way she is literally turned into the most reasonable logical moral compass. It's been home as an amazing journey to get. Let's craziest. She's actually that every season remember that season where she was the only one who had bethany. Bethany turned on will never forgive her. So every season we're so surprised but it's again and again like she is just such a sweetheart she really is so I think if anyone else gets fired, it will be obvious that during their fire I'm still not convinced I could see it. Both ways to render has had the luxury of being on the show being an animal and not one's getting called out about it and also being a. Fan favourite like from the moment she started people put her in icon status status like people were obsessed with our to be honest I. Never really got it. Never me neither and slowly happy for them that they have someone. But I never got it. She started to unravel a little bit in the Puerto Rico Bethany to me, which was her most a tiny agreed in Turkey. Baster up there too. Yeah. But one of her most egregious. On ethical moments on the show and I think people started, but it never became fodder on the show like. Went through like five seasons where literally every conversation was Sonja Alcoholic and it was like she let him and stop drinking for just to prove that she could do it that she's not now calling and it's like they did that with everyone they labeled everyone alcoholic and actually was alcohol like they. Never came for during that she had the privilege of just only getting the benefits of the show people loving her whatever she wants never having to take account ability. But now there's literally nothing going on in the show like you can't ignore wind up being the elephant in the room. There's it's the only thing to talk about the only five women. None of them are that interesting you have to talk about into and I can really see her not being okay with that and leaving but I do know that this show is her her life she loves being outside it is her only form of income as far as I know with instagram like the show gives her. Like her. It's all funneled through. Yeah. The show without the show. So I I don't see her stepping away from that. No when I also think while she's never really. Gotten into the weeds and been held accountable like this. She is a fighter and Sheikh if it if it came for her and I feel like she would only really hear it or receive it out of a union andy was. Also saying, but you did this and you to that eclipse. I. Think that she could stand her ground I don't think she's one to coward and give up and walk away. So I I don't even when her for her statement came out I'll read it quality and I were talking like, do you think that she got fired from Britain lectures her decision but they will let the production never admits whether. Someone gets fired or not which is nice. But knowing, yeah, she said what a journey this has been I've laughed and cried and tried to make it nice. But all things must come to an end. This was a great outlet for me to heal when my late husband Richard passed away I have met so many interesting people and learn so much about myself about life and about women along the way. She said to me cast mates for constant simulation and entertainment I. Wish You all health and happiness and success then I saw this Daily Mail article. But also you and I were talking about it. You thought maybe she left I thought for sure she was fired I could see her leaving. I actually can't because it like we said it's her comments her livelihood and you know what she. I think she would be able to take the bad with the good. The bad just came for her and the goods been so great. So whether we see I thought that too she gives off the vibe of like an animal who can defend herself. But literally, this entire season she's running from a chiller gets moves away from conversation. That's also because she really thinks that she's right in these women don't know what they're talking about but I do think if it was a reading type situation where someone should respect I don't think she respects Ramona or Sonia. Would have andy were like, no, do not see this I. think that she would have mccown ability and make some changes and I, think she could get pass it I really really do I can't believe though I mean I can't believe but the time is here because it seems like Bravo, fired her that's what the Daily Mail is reporting a production source. Told Daily Mail that it's a big mistakes where we're all surprised quote as even though she had a tough season, she's a fan favorite who people are rooting for quote to render was the only housewife last to both owns her own apartment in New York City alongside a second home in the country you watch this is an error that they will regret. Can I just say I'm almost? Positive she doesn't own her. Yeah. I. Completely I know where she lives and I it's a rental building. Yeah. I don't think she owns her apartment in the city, but that's also like not a reason to be a house and also what was with like literally holding over everyone's head the berkshires somehow they can't come her because she invites him to their house every season literally like the Berkshires. was just as good for her character on the show as it was for like the storyline they don't own anything. She Invites Center House Ramona invites her house in the Hamptons Lou never went to her house in upstate. That's not that doesn't get you a free path. No, not at all she's just like grasping at straws and I think it's really crazy that they fired her and I just I'm more I have a feeling that it's not going to be the only change for the Caswell. That's how will know if she got fired. Yeah. But I think if I'm Ramona I'm worried I'm worried also Ramona might already know that something's. Also think. Like I was watching Ramona's we are watching her therapy and that seen literally illustrates everything. That's so wrong with her so much. I. Had so much second hand embarrassment everything. That's so right. It's like she so cringing, but she's also self-aware cheese really even in describing her cringing she's being more cringe us and it's literally so entertaining and even though she's not like the housewife you might want to. Go to dinner with you there. Sir Watching it on TV like the entertainment value. It's really there and like she's been doing this for so long I think I if it were up to me, I would keep her but bravo does have a real of New York problem like this was a good season. We only had five housewives none of them have any money like we have a problem and Just eight, six pattern of like we're just going to drink heavily let anything come out of our mouths ignore it the next morning and repeat repeat repeat and that's not that's not continuity. That's not that's not interesting to watch the women like literally behave like toddlers. Toddlers like throwing food screaming, crying, running like running. On the floor know. Toddlers where we go from here like I don't even reminds me of like when we go really stale place in OC like we're still coming out of it, but it's like these women while they are icon and we must pay respect like at some point you do have to move on and this season has really really just been terrible. Yes. Well, so I'm glad they're realizing. It they've made one change with Darren I do think that taking done adding to Leah type housewives would be fabulous but I'm sorry we need women with money. I know I know I get so fixated on it but that's what this franchise is like it is an aspirational franchise and that's what makes Beverly Hills. So fabulous that's what make like when these women take trips. Yeah. They shouldn't be surprised by the House that they're staying like when when the women of real houses your go to Mexico on their own dime, they don't say anything even remotely close to what they do when the women in Beverly Hills go to Rome they stay at nicer places than when they do when they film it shouldn't be this luxury. Yeah I agree also like I knew this tweet that was like, oh, location Glam is so different depending on what franchise you're watching and it was. For Sachi outfit and during his pants from London those pants Oh my God those pants, those pants really sum up this. This season. Yeah. This season. Was the part that really bothered me in Mexico was at that dinner, which was just so dumb. We got nowhere finally someone ask someone Leah's something interesting about her business and her partners, and I actually wanted hear it and then Ramon is going on about the wine and like the way Ramona once again at talks to staff is just so important and classes and elite is and it's like we go back to the conversation. Yeah. Do you have partners it. Also it was. Arinda. Just asking about her business she didn't have to talk about the group chat young and whatnot but I agree it was interesting and I liked the scene where we saw Leah and her business and I assuming the show has been good for her business and I hope that we got to see more of it. I wasn't crazy about the designs that we saw it looked like A. Torch? Yeah. But I mean she's been doing it for fifteen years. I find it extremely interesting and I hope that it grows in that we got to see more of it I really do I really felt a lot of pride and happiness for Sonia Century Twenty one party like it is a big deal even though now with Kobe Century Twenty one is bankrupt but she Did it's a huge accomplishment and I actually love Sonya and I think if they're going to do a big clean out like she has to say, she is looking so good in her confessionals she really takes between being this crazy drunk and also sometimes it's so wise no and like so sweet and just as sweet soul I, totally agree like when she's screaming about her posey. Hamdan's how. Back. But then she Sonia Rita. I think she's great and I think that she can evolve with a younger caste. She's a young spirit. I totally agree I also think that Ramona can evolve with the young cast because she like weird she she drinks and she's up the next day and she's so active. She's always flirting like I keep up but then I also think she has that. Like Vicky goggles an energy where it's like if someone new comes, she's GonNa, haze them and even know it's like, okay you're not gonNa be anyone's favorite housewife when you're doing that it's going to interesting television. Yeah. No I'll be very curious to see what happens before next season like if they're doing a major shakeup if during the left on her own. Or just during the only one about which I don't see that I, don't understand that strategy watch the season up saying of course I got to go I was he's one hundred needs to go but if it's just Arinda I don't know what that does because we're still stuck in this like Time Warp where these women were. New You know what it is. It's just like we're living in the site post Bethany world where it's like we need we everything can't be in like the shadow of what Bethany Safety was here remember when Bethany. Bethany was there for Sony on Ramona came for Bethany and they were on noodles. Bethany era right. Until we need a new era, we need to be in like the era of Lia. We don't you know. So I think they're going to make those changes but you also. I think some people are enjoying the season so they don't need to revamp the entire thing like just totally start from scratch they're making little changes I. Hope they add to new housewives but like not someone even remotely similar to someone like Elise like Dow is just like what's so wrong with the show that she was. An up and comer. Yeah. When they did a preview for next week and we saw there's like trauma I legitimately had forgotten completely about her if nobody ever said her named me again, I wouldn't thought about think about her till the day. You can't do like go back to at least drama after she after she wasn't even invited on the cashier at like that is just a relevant. So now we're back in New York and we're. At the married to the MOM party and we're GONNA talk about a lease. It makes no sense even though now in real life, I know Lisa only are really close, which is so strange I never even saw them really act no meaning there and I hope that doesn't mean that will be on next season because I do hopefully have some say but I also I don't necessarily want earliest friends because I don't think that they're housewife. Leah's like a once in a blue moon type thing. But someone like that WHO's on the like Heather Thomson just someone with an interesting personal life great personality, interesting business, and just someone who can hold their own. Yeah. I love Heather Thomson had any Frankel in a lot of we she was. I'll bet news on the show. Coexist they couldn't coexist I actually really really liked her and her weird like she was weird but she owned it. Yeah she's cool So that was it. is all the tour stuff with Sonia Missing Her oh I mean Russell GonNa pay her two hundred dollars a show you're going to get two hundred dollars you get what you get what you pay for yeah. I actually am continually impressed by tour like even though she'd like those six guys singing sitting around at the rehearsal and I looked at one of the computers and there was literally email from. Delta. Airlines opens I don't know how hard working they are but like it is impressive that like she has this whole infrastructure and it's like when you Sonia Walk into her century twenty. One. Party with like literally her tag group of interns who don't make a dollar and they're different faces every time she never enter it's like so not legitimate and there's something really legit about store and it's really impressive. I totally agree. I'm here for all of it and I look forward I hope she's able to get her next tour off the ground soon zooming she's on pause Right now and I've been and I have to say if you have, it's a good time. We'll the new different 'cause. It's like Mary kill and it's like a fully scripted show like I know that she read parts of the show that I went to, which was the first show she ever did was scripted in the sense she the journal with her and she read passages from. Journal but there was a lot of like impromptu it. It was a little messy honestly, and she had like this projector with a video playing which she was just getting her. Yeah. Every I'm sure they've got it down to a science now I'm sure the new towards going to be got an I will be going very exciting. All right let's do Potomac. Okay. This Week Potomac. WAS NOT POTOMAC. At their best nobody laid the foundation the nation we just watched the preview for next week literally looked so good one we have Muni driving a pickup truck to we have Chris. Chris Voicing Karen in three we have Monique's Lake House for we got make out the Strip club. Yeah. It was really the best part of the episode for me that preview for. But it was still good I honestly like the difference when we're recapping different housewives, it's like the Potomac women could do nothing but they're still interesting just like so much like they're close even Giselle like looking at her house her desk like that is interesting. That was tragic. No I can't and some of the outfits that the women were Cairns Birthday. I. Mean Cairns housewarming who is your worst stressed my worst stressed was we need to just think of everyone pages Alba's not my worst trust Ashley was not my stress Wendy was up There but no up there. But no candidates is always cute. Now can this was my stress? Really first of all, I just have to say like I have that she were a white Kimono over like this pink Robert Pink. Jumpsuit, I have the White Komo from forever. Twenty one I wore it to stagecoach and that's just not what I WANNA see on TV like I think on their own each woman was fine. But when you put them together, it's like, where are you guys going robin literally looked like she was going to celebrate the. New, Year's Eve in Las Vegas like popping bottles and it's just confusing and like the women I'm realizing women have Potomac like their style is some of the worst of all, the Franchises Monique obviously thickening. She raises the group average by a thousand by. I'm so obsessed with her we didn't get that much. In this episode but the stuff we did get was premium. So we have no choice but to Stan I guess some of the biggest parts was carrying in Ray in the house warming and back to Potomac that video invitation was so cringe I can't. Karen does so much like you WanNa hate like that was so crazy video her dance was so crazy but something about her so endearing like she's trying so hard and I don't know what she's trying to hide. There's something going on awards. where she's like and Wendy's really the one calling it out like she's for the last couple of seasons been like this is how you kiss ray like her marriage as an institution and it's definitely a facade because we see it slowly falling apart like he won't say I love you to her yeah, and he's like non involved this party at all but she keeps saying the parties for him Potomac is for him. She really is making it seem like were maybe she actually thinks that like the party is going to bring them closer together when to me like everything she did. For the Party drives them further apart it's all K- Karen her to to Boca. It's like a coming out party for a single woman, and by the way I feel I understand where the dividing their marriage. If she wasn't on the show and their kids went to college, they would have moved to Florida and just kind of retired they are of that age but she's like ten fifteen years younger than Ray and now she's on the show she. Has a business and the show gives women new life especially women who grew up as housewives not grew up. Sorry who were housewives before they were on the show the show makes them businesswomen in their own way and they don't want to stop and so while Ray may be ready to retire. Karen is not know in the world love carrying show needs carry the carrying going anywhere. So if someone has to go, it's GonNa be right to show that. The most interesting part of the episodes shockingly came from Robin even though she was barely in it when she. Said, you throw a housewarming party for a house that you're renting. I didn't even think that they most likely are renting that house. Yeah. Also make sense because it seems like they have no clue where they WANNA be living. Yeah. So I. Guess the Party was the most interesting part that other small stupid drama was between candidates and Giselle and I found it interesting that Wendy was the one to like rat to robin that candace had called her monster. But at the end of daylight, Wendy has to get involved in some way she's been on the outskirts out for five episodes and she came in really in a difficult position as friend of Kansas and Kansas is on the outs and she doesn't Have the opportunity to build relationship with everyone because she's Kansas friend. Yeah I actually loved the scene between Wendy and Robin is got their friendship like just off the bat was really genuine watching their kids play was really cute and even though it was a little unqual for Wendy to share what candace had said, she didn't come at it in a way like I'm going. To talk my friend like, Robin. Straight asked her and join the answer the question it's not like Wendy came to Robin and was like this is what can said about it seemed like every normal, right. So if if Robin and Asher and she was like, Oh, I, can't say that would make it seem like she said something so much worse than she did and Kansas Gisela on the list of things can said like, isn't that big of a deal your concubine allowance it just with each episode like I'm just less and less interested in anything that comes out of Kansas, his mouth, and it's like how many times are we going to watch her and her husband have conversation about kids? It's just it gets old and boring she doesn't. Evolve at all. Now, I'm completely and utterly one hundred percent done with candidates like it's over I. Really held out hope because she's there. She's she's cool sometimes and she's fun sometimes. But this season has just been completely boring her fights with the women. She's completely wrong the the her personal life scenes to absolutely nothing for me her having like a fake picnics setup something she would never ever. Do just like last week, she would never have gone to that children's story teak with not for the show having this fake picnic talk about fake kids that you have no interest in having like we see right through it. It's kind of like when Jennifer eight and accused Melissa like these fake story lines like the sister. Yeah and the the having another child has yet. That's true. Story Line for the season, but at least Melissa was thinking big like. Thinking so small. So she's either throwing her mother under the bus or talking about a fake child that she has no intention of having anytime soon, I just have to be honest I'm not interested. I would rather hear Christel Monique that whole pay for anything she needs also while I agree candidates just so everything about it is just so fake and there's no substance. She is the one next week who brings the Michael t? So therefore, she is integral. But of course, like the way she's going to go about is going to be completely wrong because just watching this week's episode I, don't know why next week she brings it to Giselle when Giselle is the ultimate I'm Chevy Silverado switches because the ultimate monster. But like if it were mean, you're actually trying to be a decent person and get on good footing with Ashley, you, bring it to the person who's closest with Ashley. Honestly this is giving me like beverly, hills vibes something happened off camera. What do you do with it? It's like, yes even though I'm sure that cat was overjoyed to have gotten that text message it is a burden because what do you do with it? Yeah. and. You have to like Michael is part of the show. He's fair game so it must come up but there's A. Good way to go about in. China who is closest with Ashley Carrim carrying? No no really. Yeah. Candidates is called Ken but that's like a new ish friendship. No Candice Karen in Monique like we're all close to three of them. Now kennison Monique Aren't speaking but I feel like right now maybe actually is closest with Treselle and that's why she brought it to Giselle but it's just gonNA blow up yet. No, it's going to blow up and obviously like I'm so ready for another season about Michael Drama because it's always interesting but I mean the only thing I want to. Recap the preview next week. Looks so amazing. So amazing, I can't wait to go to Lake House just WanNa be there I wanna see their someone's complaining that they're in the middle of nowhere sounds like a dream can't talk it all I feel bad for Giselle and in her you know personal story line that her kids are like not on board with her relationship and it's like she's obviously raised really really good kids if they're so protective of their mom and like you. Love that but it's like, obviously, it took her a long time to get to the place where she wanted to be back with Jamal and I don't think she ever expected like a hurdle to be her kids yet, and I also just think like talking about it in the middle of a dance for a dance class with like your friends around like is not where her daughter wants to be talking about it. This is the sort of thing where it's like I. Totally. Understand. Where you're coming from the kids are coming from and they just need time in like it needs to be like months years of Jamal being a good partner to Giselle for the kids to trust him and we'll get there. They'll get there. Yeah I would love to see some more Jamal airtime but he doesn't even live in Potomac no in the last week just meet me like terrible Mamie go wake wish for the days when I just had this abstract idea Gisela. was that there so fabulous and that he's like to fabulous the show. And that will never get it because when we got it I was like, no, yes. Some things don't know. Translating. No. I make something that's just don't translate and honestly I don't think that their relationship does but we know they're together in real life now. So there's obviously something there. Yeah, and like I think that their life together is an can be so fabulous like when to sell sitting front row at day Chapelle Yeah and By the way that is the most interesting piece of Pop culture I totally agree pointed it out I did and I. Feel like Jamal has so many of these sorts of connections because he's so respectfully went to his church. Yes, and then like Giselle is really. So respect like I don't think she will ever unless she decided be off this show and she is the glue that holds together. You told me that beyond say watches the show I think Giselle and Jamal are like an institution well, beyond say has said in an interview that like years ago that she watched Atlanta. So she's on Bravo much. Watching, and I feel like the women might think that and that's why Karen her beyond satanic she said say, yeah, very cute. That's so Meta and exciting like to know that beyond might watch your show but then I was actually thinking must be so stressful when you're like in a fight with someone and you're like, we what side is beyond say date what is beyond said GonNa think of my actions you know what that also holds you accountable love to it. It's a great barometer. And wouldn't be on TV proud of me. Yeah. And that's a lot of the franchises like there's so many celebrities who are outspoken like their fans of beverly, hills and your and like you have to know Lady Gaga my judge you. Yeah you arena she will judge you will judge you Chrissy Teigen. Obviously ever knows but there's just so many celebrities and you love to see it when they go and watch live who've been watching for. So long I would love to get a robbins live with beyond saying she has so many thoughts on Atlanta. Yes. That's only franchise I. Think on record admitting that she watches but you just watch me once you Once you twenty love it so much and you find that there's eight more riling you pick up at least another one or two Yeah Bravo watched live beyond say moment is what we need I'm sure. Andy like it's sure it's like on his vision board you know and it's One day one day one, day I. Really don't have that much to say about the episode it was fine. It was fine and that's next week look sickening and so we'll talk to you then. Yeah. Now let's weekly Recap Beverly Hills even though what's the point because we're joined by Queen of the Universe to Republicans in a minute but let's give thoughts. Yeah it was fine episode. It was a good episode I mean it's episode that had to happen after Rome and after hearing Denisa. Side, of course, we need to hear from brandy and a balloon said like denise just needs to talk but I don't know why denise would ever give got caught format denise show when Greenwich is saying things that Denise doesn't want. Yeah. I actually really liked last week's episode the last one in Rome it feel like I felt like it came to some sort of resolution, and now we're just back made progress and now two steps forward five cents back but you knew that was going to happen. This group just cannot let sleeping dogs lie and I understand they're on a show it has to be brought up but there's something about the storyline that is way too personal. I know they're they keep bringing it back to you. Well, if if pretty much, it's like if brandon did sleep with denise, then it also means that the things that brand new. Set about the women are true and they're more interested in getting to the hat where it's like if does airway to the troop binding like hearing the teddy lives in. Shadow or whatever it's like that's not that insulting. Okay. That's your opinion. No, and it's just like I'm sure something Teddy's heard a lot. It's just me. It's what they're trying to find out isn't worth the the mean things doing along the way and my problem with the episode was that it was all just so overt. In what fucking world would brandy glanville be invited to Teddy Mellon camps. Baby shower in absolutely. No. where. Did. They actually did show that there was like a offhand imitation at Kyle's house where teddy you should come but then brandy didn't come until it was already over like they said that she was invited initially like that's Kyle said but then she said brand said that she got a last-minute text message out the details explaining everything. So wishy invited in the beginning or was it last minute it was so messy and then like to kick out teddy's the whole scene was just so weird they kicked out Teddy's friends because they thought they shouldn't be there for the. Conversation like the whole thing just made no sense to me. It was really weird. It was like, okay. It's time for us to do our television show. As lead and they shouldn't be speaking about denise will they shouldn't be speaking about denise without her period, but they also shouldn't be speaking about in front of a room of winter legit don't know her who are strangers so they had to go but it was just so weird and like it was just weird of Teddy's baby shower that they're using this showers and excuse to do this, and it was also like Doritos Capri on the mailing. It was a million things. It was just really messy I. Mean I know that we were supposed to be. Like living the Denise Brandy drama but to me, the best part of the episode was when Garcia Jokingly. But also dead serious said that every time Erica talks about her upcoming performance on Broadway as Roxy Lisa mentioned that she did at eighteen years ago and then the clips back to her doing that we're just like giving me life giving me life I'm weird I'm Garcia is written is kind of a sub story. Now that's kind of brewing beneath the surface and I have to be honest like some of the things like ourselves saying about Reina I think she's really touching on something that is bubbling beneath the surface aside from the conversation between an and her daughter and. Disorder stuff like that sin aside. But she's kind of talking about how arena is different than the ring that she used to know and I feel the same way as viewer. Lame. Brennan's different than the that came on the show and I feel like for a few seasons she was kind of like the punching bag you know like. Always make fun for so it's like begging groveling for an apology and now she's just like this on top of the world who thinks that her she doesn't stink who's constantly stirring the pot and turning her back on her friends and just like always laughing it off I, totally agree I have turned on Brenna as well. There's just something about her attitude. This season I think it has to do with like Lisa Banner pump definitely being gone. It's like the kids have taken over because the parents left the house and I think that she's a little unreasonable and she's not Like She's like a hypocrite like she does things and then yells at other people for them. I have definitely turned on her as well. Yeah and also even her struggle with trying to understand the denise brandy situation I really did like the human slash actress side of her when he said that when her denise like came to made amends and she said that she would have nieces back and then she reads these text messages from Brandy which sure they show that denise and Bernie our friends, but I don't. Think anyone ever really questioned that and she says, this is an intimate relationship. I'm sorry this is not an intimate relationship and she's reading those text messages and wanting to believe brandy even know like she should be wanting to believe her friend. Yes I think that her you know emotional breakdown in Rome was definitely like an acting moment because she's not following through on any of the things that she said she was going to do and at the end of the day what's so frustrating about this? It's like. Denise lied so many times and to cover up something I haven't figured out what her Emma was, but she just like so many times and it's giving the women ammunition to keep going keep furthering the story line to uncover more for like you are friends you spoke to weeks ago you spoke to him before the party you said you didn't, and it's like it's frustrating to be on denise aside because she's just like lying like making stuff up. Out of for ass like every ten seconds everything she says is a ally. So it's just it's frustrating because I wanted to offend her but it's like she's giving the women the knife to stab her with. Yeah, and also I think for the women. It's like okay. If she lied about them being friends, it means she's lying about sleeping with branches lying about things that she said about us and I don't necessarily believe that's true. I think denise kind of panicked. And yes. You know and lied on some points, but it doesn't mean that everything else is true. So it is must be frustrating for Denise but I'm really liking denise's vibe. She's kind of wing like when she's lying and stuff and in her confessionals when she's just saying one thing to the women who her confessional just being totally honest with the viewers like I'm living for it I agree I love that Energy I. Hope he brings that energy to the reunion. And deal read said that the reunion was very interesting and her and denise our friends even though like next season next week, which is the season finale. We get a little sneak peek that she blocked a read on social media. Yeah. But we'll see what happens. We'll. We'll see what it's all about. The only other thing that I wanted to mention is Rena had a conversation with her daughter Amelia about the comments that oursel- had made and it was another instance feel like. was coming out. I did feel like the conversation was a little stage I feel like they had the conversation privately before decided they were going to say, and then I saw on twitter sat amelia was wearing two different black has a sex and Balenciaga right and so which would go to say I mean either she changed her black hat in the middle of the scene or they filmed the scene twice and she tried to recreate her look and were similar but different hat and there was a digital clock behind Amelia that time for a while and then like as conversation progress, they blurt out the clock. So. There's just weird end someone pointed out on twitter the screen shots they put up with denise and brandies texts were like photoshop like you can see there was a blue bubble error like it was weird I'll show you can put it on her instagram. There's just like weird continuity issues. Okay. The bubble thing of the tax I didn't see it but I just feel like maybe they consolidated some talent phrase just to like get the point across quicker. So we're not like reading Texas they like, Hey, what's up and then you? Just chilling I. Agree. But the Amelia Lisa rimas stuff is really strange in and we spoke about this last week. How it kind of you know it's obviously not cool Garcia to bring this up like she's a child but renee and has chosen to put this on television. That's Amelia said she took it back but she said that she was forced to share her story on real houses, Beverly Hills, and then later she clarified not saying forest but encouraged her mom encouraged her to share it. It was like a whole mess you. To them stories. Yeah. But anyway, this this storyline is out there is something that they chose to put out there. Amelia. Could have been dealing with this none of us ever known she's. She's not required. Yeah. So not only are going up but then Riina Amelia back to have the conversation again in like sort of avenge renna right in her parenting skills and I just felt like that's It was unnecessary I agree I agree. anyways. But it is interesting to see the other. Oursel- written on drama brewing because they do have a long standing friendship and it seems like arena has changed. Oh off and as if you're not that I know her personally but the vibe that I get is like unleashed we're GonNa talk about all the time I like the hustle like being famous is a constant hustle you have to do jobs, you don't want to do the depends. On how many times repair that but I feel like the house has brought Renna something she hasn't had ever, which is like a constant stream of fame money like the housewives of beverly. Generals like popcorn. But the Beverly Hills it's like the crown jewel of the whole to be on. It is a a huge honor and the women are all rich and famous in their own ways and I think that this platform has given her something. She's Crepe for a long time, which is. True stardom like you see, she's event with Kris Jenner like, yeah, this is what she's worked for. So long now that she has it I feel like she's becoming a little bit of a mobster she's moving into a new circle to I feel like we spoke about this you and I when we were just watching together 'cause you were like I don't know why she's turning on Denise wouldn't. You want to be friends with denise. She's kind of like a social climber denise, a bona fide celebrity right and I'm like, no Renna now is moving into like Kris Jenner territory unlike denise is like her old life of being an actress, a soap star whatever nineties siren icon. But like now she's like she's just moving circles and and I do feel like denise doesn't the friendship doesn't provide. Benefits. That being friends with Kyle being friends with Sutton being friends with Erica Jane. I totally agree she's super transparent. Yeah and you know what we love to see that as well, and by the way, that's why people love her and respect her but. It was a fine episode fine. It was signed yet next week season finale. Now, we have our interview with jury which was record. You know we absolutely love her and we're so excited to talk to her. So check it out enjoy. We will see you guys next week. Welcome back to the morning a we are freaking out you guys because we are sitting down virtually with someone. We discuss here all the time on the morning at least one to we at least when we recap Beverly Hills. Please welcome to the show to read Kenley. Heidari. Guys, Alario we are GONNA have to preface inner ear right telling you that we stand. So hard your looks this season are just giving breathing life into the season already good season. So we have so much to talk to you about but before we do, we just need to say thank you for everything that you're bringing like physically and mentally spiriting lamb to the season. Thank you so much while you have made my fried. Okay We literally just I have so many questions fear. We just watched this week's episode and to be honest like we don't know if the way that we feel about the current situation is how most people are feeling but I really feel like you are taking the really mature route on this whole brandon genie strong like. Concerned with whether or not it's true. But just like should we be talking about this right? Yeah. And we see next week season finale snuck up on us. So fast I'm. Denise kind of cuts with the filming. You hear you say that she blocked you are you and we thought Denise had a beautiful friendship especially in Italy like we were really impressed with with guys just kind of weathered the storm where do I, stand now? Denise and I are friends I mean I don't I don't think that that's a secret a multiple times in you know I'm happy to cite denise and I have a great friendship. She somebody that I connected with their quickly when I met her for the first time two years ago when I was going through a hard time, she really lend herself in such a soft kind way and you know I I don't forget those things and we really bonded and I. Think She's very funny and I think she's She's sweet and kind and caring in all of those things. And you know, I, don't know brandy. Well, in fact, I met her instead of the first thirty seconds. You know she insulted me and. I just. Your. If there is a story which you know I have to believe either my friend or somebody I? Don't know. Anything about and is isn't hasn't been very nice. I mean it's clear going to be on denise. Aside. Right. And then there I think that there's a level. You know where you just don't go you know what's the purpose? Why are you doing this when you doing this four? Totally understand and it does feel like I'm Beverly Hills you guys do stay above that level. Most of the time everyone has things that they don't WanNa share on the show but that grace wasn't awarded to Denise in this instant and that's what seems unfair right? Well I mean listen there's the flip side to that, and the truth is we are on a reality show where we are showing our entire lives and there's been plenty of things that maybe we don't get to pick and choose what was shown what we jumped on show. We just don't because you put yourself out there and there's curiosity of the audience and the producers jobs and the network jobs in you know the cast job. Is really to show the real the reality of the situation and everything good bad ugly. So that's the alternative argument and I do understand that I think as far as women go in US women, it's something you know none of the women in our group in our core group brought the information to the table. They didn't the information was brought from Brandy to the group. and then of course, there is this argument. Well, what happens then it's out there the inflammation wasn't delivered to me have been delivered to me. I wouldn't have done it the way it was done, but I have a different relationship with denise you know. Done it very differently and I certainly would have made it wouldn't have made it. Right Publican I certainly wouldn't have talked about some of those sorts of details at the baby shower when you found out that brandy was going to be in attendance. Did you shoot denise attacks in? Let her know or she genuinely just decided not to show up and it was like timing for her? She actually had facetime meet before the shower started before. I. Knew Brandy was coming. She was sick and she couldn't come. So I duNNo. If she had any wind debate or or what but she? You know she did facetime, you telling me she couldn't come was sick and then we're. Showing up at the end of the baby shower. I think another reason why we really connected with this season is that Glam a topic of commerce at an all time high and side from the actual looks he was actually part of the storyline some of the fighting you know when you showed up late to Mala which I was totally on your side like I thought I was being so unreasonable. Can you talk a little bit about like what does your day look like when you film on the trip I'm sure it was back to back with Glam in the daytime and the nighttime. But what is it actual daily life of the house but when you're putting these looks together, what does that what does that look like? So, for me I mean I like to depends on my mood of easy whatever we're doing by lost to put looks together. I love to play as space that I really enjoy. You know the fashion space in the Glam space unlimit is who I am I enjoy doing it. So I choose an outfit I put together the look and then I've got a great team just marshawn was might. Hair silence in very dear friends best friends working together for a number of years and you know I trust her. She knows me so well. So once I've put together, look out collaborate with her design, how I wanted to my hair. And she just. She. Kills it. She kills them time and time again she's so next level. Spend tastic for me because I get to work with you know my friends and we get yeah and when you have a similar vision in you understand where another you know each other. So well, you can really have a great time at it and I think that that's what you're seeing the byproducts that So that's the process for me. I choose an outfit put together sometimes the night before if we're travelling than obviously up pack a couple of days before and put together a few different looks. And then other times when I don't have the time and I I'm shooting in mind but two little ones businesses in. So life is always very crazy and very busy. I could just. Be grabbing something as going in our throwing something together. After the fact, you know if I if I do have my hair makeup don in its low key than it's. Going for low key outset, you know kind of more comfort. Yeah. What has been your favorite look that you've worn the season. We'll tell you ours Gilbard ears really hard for so many that I love. Mine is actually not that obvious. You know I don't think mine is the same widening the luncheon Italy defending one no no lunch with Kyle in Italy when you were that big black scrunchy around your hair, which is so understated and so elegant and just so different. I love that say in it wasn't. What I was coming for. The outfit where he spoke to the way, I, wore my hair, my makeup gas because he almost look, we're going to a funeral and some could say that lunch right have been the funeral of your and Kyle's friendship gazetted. Was Yours. No, I think we're talking about the same because US marrying the Fendi, Tyson, the boots, and the trench and the scrunchy. Maybe. It was like it's not the most obvious one, but it was so like delicate and low key and Jill apt and also like Fendi in. Rome. It was perfection production I. Agree I also wearing those Italian designers in Italy in Rome I mean for me. I, just felt like it was paying respect. I'm having love affair with for. Saatchi. Last year I just thought everything she did you know I was drawn to. And so I think my favorite and it's really hard because there's so many that I love. Is Hard to pick David it's like children totally get rid of Mike sheltered. Loved them boats you know it would be right really really loved for Sashi, suit and that was a lot of fun because he kinda came together it was brought to me. I've got Wardrobe Silas to at worked with for many years. She's also a dear friend she's New York City, and she'll she'll send me some things I mean we've known each other a long time square when people really know you because I don't have time to shop these days so. Things a lot of things will get sent in then I kind of pick and choose. And when I was putting it together and I had all of these Sary's laid out was actually putting it together and I was hitting things all over and then I put on the belt. and. I couldn't decide which bell I liked psychot- about them both up weightman I like the together. So then stacks the belts. I. Minded putting even hairpins on the jacket here now. So for me, that was fun look ahead necklace wrapped around my my wrist. And I. It's like that like work kind of. I. There's a little bit of me that you know there's a Ud originality. An I wore Prada set. It was denise's infamous. Infancy are. The coney well, that I actually cut the Prada shirt. Because I wanted it to be level with the PAN and it was a high wet highways pan. I DIDN'T WANNA. Tuck. It it had a cute little belt round pant in a bunch too much. So I actually cut it and then with that piece I sowed a hair scarf and. That that looking together and I love things like. I need honourable mention to the Attica dress you wore to kyle's event that was taking show-stopping. Give birth to throw it in a blender mix. It apps reference not reference it just hooking brilliant like am I can imagine how much time that takes we want viewers. We want to let you know like we appreciate it so much elevates the show to a completely different level which. I think we're really sets it apart from other franchises. These looks like it's Milan fashioned way to like a magazine. It's something that we may be used to get from other mediums that now with so many people watching reality TV you guys are like a kind of what we used to get from the show like gossip girl. Yes. City yes. Like those looks at are really curated. Have like a theme in. An idea to them you guys are serving up on Beverly Hills and it does not go on noticed note does not that I'm so glad to because that's the that's the when I teased for I say to myself. You're not going to change me I drink. That is what I like doing. So only. It's only when people tease others like for being creative. Yeah like an art. Or remain. It's like, why would she someone wanting to look nights? For their job that they're showing up because it's not just you're going to a workout event in pretend like it's and it's also like unto according to like show that so many people watch and it's going to be out there people watching it for years and years and years, and like that look is GonNa have legs exactly also I was wearing beverly each leggings you have to defend yourself during you look sickening the beach down. Sickening Gangway Watan like, yes, I I'm glad she's late and she's not even late because she said she was only coming for half the fucking day I love you and also it is so important that you take those pictures. Those pictures are so important like so important. I mean that's the whole thing is why waste such a good look I wanna see it and I know other people. WanNa see it. You know. Literally making that time, and that takes a matter of minutes. This is no died Mr spoke a half a day photos. It's not like that it's now all the photos shooting. Snap a few pictures. It we alternate. Yes. I know exactly and that's Graham. Isn't it? It's the Graham. Can you tell us a little bit about reunion? You guys can do remotely was denise. Yes love I'm so glad I i. think she deserves a moment to explain herself. I was so glad she she was an intruder she had said to me leading up There was no way she wasn't going to be there. So I expected her to be there. Oh, good audit. There's always a lot of chattering class in. You know it's it's hard because when conversations happen in the press or the prestige it to the next level, and then we're kind of upright with our hands behind their back because you cancer every single thing you know but but I'm glad she was there the reunion virtually was epic. It was really incredible definitely when you WANNA tune into exile. Yet no doubt that look was a lot of fun putting together I mean. I really loved loved the journalists might love the hair that I didn't and as far as the actual content and the reunion definitely worth tuning into it's really good. Do you think denise is GonNa Return. I don't see why she wouldn't. I don't see why she wouldn't. I mean I say that. She's with me. She's friends with our sal The only reason why someone wouldn't return as if they're either not friends with anyone in the group adding more. Or. If they just you know they're just not wanted I suppose. Did either of those that neither of those but I? Believe. Me If you ask, me could ask me all of those questions, but it's the powers that be that that actually great niece that make those decisions. So. Yeah. Nice we'll tweak in the powers that be something denise this season she said Bravo Bravo Bravo. which we now know is something that you say when you don't want something to air, is that something that's used often have other people said that over the course of your time on the show and we didn't get to see it. Now no no. In fact. Kind of the first time, I've ever seen. Hey. Not, a tool to knock get footage aired. You know. Why Rob will deliberately put it in because imagine that you is mashed. If we could all arbitrarily choose what we wanted to air or not air I mean the other producing show which not producers on. Right. Now I think that she had heard it some of the Oh Jeez. Highly spent upon they had said that back in the day when they wanted to touch up their makeup, they say, while they were putting powder honored money anything juicy snow removed from the shout. So interesting one other breaking the fourth wall question 'cause there's this rumor going around that That Kyle and teddy film the scene with Brandy and Kyle after you guys got back from Rome. So goes should stay that they got the information about denise off camera off camera, and then they decided to bring it up in Rome, and then film scene where they're being told as if it's for the first time. I didn't I didn't hear that I mean I was told in. Rome. It was told to me by the girls to. Brandon. Is it happens Okay Yeah I've another question for you are totally unrelated but it I. I've been waiting for this like you have to sit here for two hours. Sorry. It wasn't too. Long ago that you were the new girl and I think in your first season, it was tough for you like not ever. You jive with everyone everyone didn't jibe with you. And now you are kind of like a resident cast mate and new girls come on like what is your? Like how do you decide to introduce yourself go out of your way to be nice to new girls because I know that you have a really great friendship and if feel like you get along really well, like your love of shopping are you doing that intentionally just because like you were the new girl once and it wasn't as easy for you Okay. So and I really like you guy, so I feel like you know open on my hands and my heart heart on my sleeve. The word is. Here's the thing I've always been that kind of girl that when I meet people I if. I kind of like everybody you know until you give me a reason not to I'm warm and Nice and kind and I enjoy meeting people ness the way I always was. And then I. Applied that in the show Didn't always work. Am I kind of realized when I'd. Sort of met Teddy for the first time. We thought that we were friendly in them. Things were good and then. You know she's texting me I felt like I kind of put my heart into her and then when I watched the show back her first season, he was just not all of the bashing in talking it was like so shocking to me. So stole New World I had to become. Adapted to, and so therefore I kind of decided after that. Okay. Well I'M GONNA. Approach it where I'm GonNa, be myself and be nice is there's any kind of signs or reasons from to go slowly out to it. So I think that the answer the long winded answer that you're looking for. Gar when I first met her, it was just an easy connection. She was so fun and it was just our personalities connected with a great time and I really meant to from the begin son on the other hand. She thinks can come out of her mouth without thinking. She's Quirky. I got to know son so I can tell you she's so lovely. Really enjoy her we have become friends but in the beginning, I was like trying to figure her out you know trying to understand because I didn't really know. You, know she didn't like me. Am I gonNa like her she can say something that's like so you know extraordinary and talking she does. I I. Guess That's kind of beauty of the up which I think is why she says she could addition to the show to hiring yes she brings something different. Yeah. Like at first I wasn't sure what her role was going to be a but I actually think she fits in really well, I think he has all the group I think for the I speak on behalf of the fans and we were ready to get Lisa Danner pump outlook from leary five years ago like we have been riding this. Train, we are the conductor of the train, get her off of the shell like I. Just think she's so toxic manipulative and like we were really believers in that and I think a lot of people were like well, where does the show go from here on it from the beginning she was an integral part of every storyline you know sniper from the side but now that we're here, I feel like you really get to see a lot more character development from you guys There's more liberal genuine friendships. I mean I think a lot of you guys hang out off camera. We to. Beautiful. Real genuine friendships and it even shooting you know. Filming or Filming her best to say it. Feels like it's it's just there's a freedom to it. There's like something that sort of lifted and I think that's why you're seeing. A lot more. Developed Development Developments in friendships and characters, and so on and I think that this was a very important part of the show for a very long time and she had a very big fan base. She still has a very big Fan Mesa. Her decision to leave and I think that you know maybe it was the best decision her for everybody just it felt different after she had left there was definitely something that lifted her shifted a lightness. Everybody. Across the board of felt it. Yeah. Well, it's nice to watch it all play out. One final question we want to. Okay. So one each who is your favorite designer? toughy I just I. Don't have one favorite. It's funny because You know obviously, I am a fashion lover. So always tracking the fashion and it depends I think your students have incredible statements, but you know two seasons goes Gucci I've got I've got designers that are not. Known designers said I really like I could not give you one I couldn't even give you probably. Fair what do you think your monthly budget for Glam and wardrobe is when you're filming? I mean that's hard which and I'm not sure I'd actually mentioned that. Okay by actually was my last question. Last question was, how was your house? Love. I love the House I. Love. Food. Great. Do you have the party at Your House next week? But was it a housewarming? It is a housewarming and my husband and I developed Non Alcoholic Champagne called the stews that we launch party Fifteen, eighteen foot jump named bottle in our pool. The House is beautiful and you'll get a chance to see it really for the first time this season Mike of more done. That's exciting. oculus deed. We absolutely loved having you here. I know your time is so precious. Thank you for being here. Thank you for all you do and just saving the show and. Everything in the store keep doing you never apologize for who you are bringing the Lux, bring the hair ringling attitude. We are here we're living for it. I love it. Love you. So. They have a good one.

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Paris Hilton | Prison in Pink | 3

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Paris Hilton | Prison in Pink | 3

"Join wondering plus to listen to even the rich ad free in the wondering app. Download the wondering app and your apple or google. Play mobile app store today. Heads up we might use some punchy language here and there. You mean like salty yeah. I'm just getting so tired of seeing that. It's june third. Two thousand seven paris hilton is decked out to the nines and cocktail dress and black high heeled lubaton. It's basically her outfit. Cost more than my. But it's worth it tonight. Is the mtv movie awards. When she steps onto the red carpet she spins around and smiles at enigmatic smile photographers. Snap away harris. Look over here. Beautiful paris the paths love paris in. She loves them normally but tonight she's doing her best to fake it. She makes her way down the press line with a smile on her face hoping that the press doesn't ask her about the incident what incident. We'll get into it more later but the cliff notes version issues pulled over for driving on a suspended license and the judge decides to make an example of her. He says he's giving her forty five days in the clink. He calls it the clink. I mean in the movie version. He does okay. I mean i don't know what he actually says. But you'll have forty five days behind bars to think about the error of her ways. She needs to report in two days and where better to spend her last days of freedom than the mtv movie. Awards hobnobbing with celebs like cameron diaz and jessica alba. She just wants to have fun and forget the whole thing for a few hours. Maybe the press will forget to accept. That's not how the process works. And she knows it so she's going to face it head on. I'm trying to be strong right now. Definitely scared but I'm ready to face sentence okay. She sounded totally in control. Yeah total pro but inside. I'm sure paris is breathing a sigh of relief. At least that's over and now she can just settle into her seat next to the stage. Relax and enjoy the show. Sarah silverman is the host. Tonight she takes. The stage begins opening monologue to wind up the crowd. Harris hilton is going to jail. I heard that too maker feel like more comfortable in prison. The guards are gonna paint the bars. To look like penises. I just worry that she's going to break her teeth on those things. That's harsh way harsh. It's totally a cheap shot at someone who is in a super vulnerable place but the crowd finds it hilarious. I mean like really hilarious but you know who isn't laughing paris all six thousand plus is are on her and that's not including the ones watching from their living room when the camera are she's just sitting there with this uncomfortable. Look on her face like the cameras caught her in one of those fighter flight moments and for split second. It even looks like she might cry but then she pulls it together and shifts in her chair and her face is a mask again. Like take cheap shots. You can't hurt me okay. Well i'm hurt for her. Yeah i mean of course it hurts the butt of a joke again. But she's tough. She sits through the entire show. Like everything is fine. after show. Everyone heads off to after parties and the paparazzi follow hairstyles. She's going to but it's a ruse. She's not going to any parties. She's going to century regional detention center in lynwood to start her sentence early and she wasn't lying to the reporter. She scared the last time she was locked. Up and alone was at the provo. School and forty five days is a long time to ponder how she went from a successful reality star with a brand on the rise to a prisoner yet again when detected euless trap learns that a recent murder is linked to three other missing women. She's determined to solve the case. Listen as the la times follows her down a dark path to a man who as she puts it took a little piece of her soul. Detective trap is now available at free by joining wendy plus wondering feel the story from wondering. I'm marie skidmore williams and brooks different and this is even the rich in our last episode. Paris hilton dot. Her heartbroken overcame a sex tape scandal and shocked to fame with their hit. Show the simple life. She embraced her personas a spoiled airhead and found her niche as a brand but it turns out some of the choices. She's made well. They might just come back to bite her in the ass. This is episode three prison in pink. Okay so let's rewind a little bit three years before paris's sentenced to the slammer. God would you stop with the prison jargon. It's not possible. I'm sorry anyway. It's two thousand. Four and paris is on fire. She's just shown the business world what she can do for brand when she put on a juicy tracksuit she basically kicked off a worldwide trend clearly her image and fashion cells now. She wants to cash in but where to start well. Paris hilton loves perfume. It goes all the way back to when she was a little girl. She and nikki would sneak into little cathy's room and stare at all the beautiful bottles of perfume neatly lined up in a row and spray them all over the place. Now that has grown up. She's taking her inspiration from her. Great aunt wants removed. Elizabeth taylor. paris is related to elizabeth. Taylor just barely alive. Taylor married her uncle nicky. Liz started a huge perfume line. She was one of the first out there branding. Her personality and paris wants to follow in her footsteps. So she calls her manager at the firm. Jason more jason's like brilliant idea. All the slopes are doing it. Britney spears beyond say jessica simpson so jason gets on the horn to try and find someone who sees the potential in paris and who doesn't mind her being associated with a sex tape and may land parlance parlance makes fragrances for gas in perry ellis. And they're thrilled to add to the mix fragrance sales are down and paris has hop. Her perfume comes on in december. The bottle is pink with these wavy. Black lines the scent is fruity and sweet. With top notes of melon apple impeach. They call it paris hilton. Okay no lie. That is one of my favorite perfumes to this day while you're not alone. There perfume flies off the shelves. Harlot shoot up forty percent. It's just the beginning of what will become a hugely business for paris in two thousand and four. She just knows she's onto something. The paris brands sells. It's a good year for paris. She writes her first book in calls. It confessions of an heiress. It's this kind of tongue in cheek. Paris the character although it's kind of hard to tell where she serious and where she's not she's got all these lists with her favorite hair products and designers and close. It's peppered in between advice for girls including gems like always act like you're wearing an invisible crown or where a real one Solid advice and our work ethic is insane when it comes to promoting it. Her publisher says she has a publicity lineup that even the most sophisticated rode hard and author would have been intimidated by. She basically starts at six in the morning on talk shows and goes late into the night signing books doing interviews and late night events and she looks good the whole time as for the reception. It's lukewarm it. Hits number seven on the new york times bestseller lists but most of the reader reviews are tepid at best one rates. If you want dislike paris even more read this others. Call her shallow clueless in boring. Okay pairs is a lot of things. But she has not boring i. I didn't write that. I agree fully. Does paris care. She's riding high. Her show is on fire to if you remember. Thirteen million people watched the premiere of the simple life and just for context. The most watched episode of the kardashians got just four point. Eight million viewers fox adds a few more episodes to the first season and then they order a second meanwhile paris trademarks her phrase. That's hot for simple life season to the producers. Have a new gimmick. What's actually the same old gimmick fish out of water rich girls visit normal people and comedy ensues but this time they're taking their show on the road in an airstream trailer but they don't have any jobs so they always have to figure out a way to earn money. Which is the funny part. Like one episode. They get jobs as maids at a nudist colony. Only got i remember that episode. The also baked crawfish traps and louisiana and work at a dude ranch but what makes it. Work is their chemistry in real life there. Bff's literally they've known each other since they were little girls. The ratings are great and the show gets nominated for all sorts of teen awards and pretty. Soon they're rolling into season three. Meanwhile paris is blowing up in two thousand five. She lands a carl's junior commercial which runs in the coveted super bowl ads lot. It's a pretty big deal. Considering no one was going to touch her after the sex tape fiasco and add to that. This is a big bucks campaign with a huge director. It's what they call a high concept ad or maybe they were high when they came up with because it's basically paris just washing a car. I mean it's a lisa. At least it's an ultra walks car but still. She's just washing a car. She wears this black cutout beaming suit with these strappy heels and makes all kinds of sexy poses while she's sponges the car down. I'm not even sure what it has to do with food. But it works because the spicy. Bbq six dollar burger sells millions. Apparently sex sells really does but they do get a lotta shit for it. People threatened to boycott them for objectify women. But the ceo doesn't back down. He says. I like beautiful women eating burgers and bikinis. It's very american. Yeah american in the worst way possible. No but it's basically raining paris. Her brand is finally getting off the ground. But when your star is rising there's always someone waiting in the wings hoping you'll fall so basically the plot of everyday on smoothie yup and for paris it all begins on february fifth. Two thousand five. It's saturday night and paris is making another appearance on. Snl to promote the simple life. And this time she's the host. She's come a long way since her last appearance a little over a year ago back then she sat backstage. Her stomach in knots worried that everyone was talking about her. And that sex tape tonight when she bounds out on stage. She's excited to snl super bowl party. She wears a lightly dressed and beach girls and has her accessory dog tinkerbell under her arm. Time this week. It's been very exciting to do. Live tv because there are no tapes whatsoever. Involved in that makes me very happy okay. She's owning that sex tape thing total callback she also does this bit where she plays a hot phone sex operator catering to nerds her fellow. Sex workers are tina fey and those are some heavy hitters. Yeah but paris's a pretty good job holding her own listen to this. Hey boys feeling lonely tonight. I want to chat with some of the most beautiful women in the world. Snl is hard. It's live if you screw up. Everyone sees it so paris's a lot on the line especially considering people seem to root for her to screw up so they can legally laugh about it the next day but she really is good. The audience loves her. Don't find any dogs here. Are you a dollar baby. Do you want to exterminate me call today. It's like a pinnacle moment. The hard stuff is behind her. It's full steam ahead. And then she gets back to la and one thing after the next goes wrong. I she in coal stop talking. No one's really sure what happened. But there are rumors and one of them. Goes like this while paris's recording. Snl nicole is back in la stewing with jealousy that her simple life co star is getting more attention so she invites a bunch of friends over and tells them they're going to watch paris on snl and then she pulls a switcheroo and shows paris's sex tape instead. Yikes yeah. this was in people magazine. But nicole's friends deny it. They say she's pulling away from paris to spend more time with fiance but the timing is a little weird harris. Doesn't say anything about it for two months and then in april she says it's no big secret. That nicole and i are no longer friends. Nicole knows what she did. And that's all. I'm ever going to say about it and true to her word that is all shall ever say about it. Meanwhile nicole continues to deny the viewing party story when asked a year later on the today. Show she'll just say she in. Paris grew apart a risha. Promise me will never grow apart. Okay but only if you invite me to your viewing party of my day okay. I mean it is sad though whatever happened. It seemed like the end of their twenty two year. Friendship and the civilized. Just got a lot more complicated. Then toward the end of february paris's t mobile side tickets hacked and all of the contents are posted on the drudge report including her photos. The photos aren't that bad in the scheme of things. I mean i guess the most compromising is one of her topless kissing. Mtv j. eglantina zing for photo shoot pretty tame stuff but what is bad. Is that the drudge report. Also print names and phone numbers of all of paris's famous friends. oh no like lindsay lohan. Snoop dogg eminem. Hacked sucks for anyone. But paris takes it especially hard. She says she feels horrible. That once again. Someone has invaded her privacy. She even apologizes to her friends and family her fault or something about the only one who makes out in the end is t mobile. It's like a free commercial and sales of the sidekick spike. My god. Paris really kuensel anything. Yeah i mean you'd think hearing a phone as hackl would mean you don't buy it but apparently that's not the case well but now paris has another problem. The simple life has been given the green light for season four and the whole show rides on the chemistry between her and nicole. How can she fake it. When there's bad blood between them but maybe there's a way to save the show and give it a fresh spin all at the same time it's april thirteenth two thousand and five and paris's attending the young hot hollywood style award. They'll make an award show for anything. Truly at this event peres a totally new style. A green satin bill blass dress and her blonde hair has been dyed brown. Or maybe it's a wig. I don't know but what's important here is that she has a new. Bff at her side. Kimberly stewart aka rod. Stewart's daughter kim in paris have been friends since they were six and paris tells usa. Today at kimberly is going to replace nicole on the simple life. Wait didn't peres. Call her originally and then she turned it down. Yeah but now that she sees what's involved. She's totally down plow when the reporter s paris. What happened to nicole. She says she's engaged in doesn't have time then she says it's my show. I've had it three seasons. And i just want fresh in it up. Make it newer and fun. Her and she tells the paper instead of going to mexico like the original season four plan. They're going to maui. The public is surprised when they get the news but not surprised as fox. They didn't approve. Kimberly stewart and they haven't signed off on sending paris to hawaii. In fact they have both paris and nicole locked into two more seasons with sign contracts. So fox tries to do some damage control issues. A statement saying the change. Is paris teed up on happening. They say quote breaking up those two would be like breaking up. Lucy and ethel and then they say nicole and paris are tv professionals. Who will be ready to work together. When the time comes for fox paris and nicole ratings bold and they don't wanna lose them but now nicole wants her own show too with her fiance. It's a complete mess. A real life cliffhanger will the show go on and if it does what will it look like in the meantime. It looks like paris has more time on her hands which is good because she has a new boyfriend who just happens to be one of the richest men in the world and she thinks he's the one girl we get support from bright sellers bright sellers the wind subscription service. That helps you find wines. You love without the normal intimidation and wine. Pretentiousness you're used to. oh yes. 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Got dozens of calls from people claiming to be murderers but one stood out. Richie and his calls would leave thousands wondering if he really was the serial killer he claimed to be until richie offered to provide proof apology. Would you expect for me to send him pictures recalls line next time. I hear the apology. Line premiers on january nineteenth on the podcasts. Or you can listen ad free right now by joining wander plus in the app mama brooke. Do you like to ski. Not at all but i love snow okay. So i'm guessing you've never skied in switzerland. It's where they're really rich. Ski cross country speed one time in gym class and it was on the football field. So no okay. So it's christmas two thousand four and paris's off on a ski holiday when she meets a guy. His name is paris. Paris and paris secret. Santa must be really confusing. I know right. His last name is latsis. So let's just call him that so we don't confuse santa. Okay lactose fifa eight dark and kind of boys looking. He's the heir to a shipping fortune. His family is worth seven point. Four billion which makes them the fifty richest family in the world according to forbes in two thousand four the two met in monaco ten years earlier when they were just innocent kids now. They're young adults in the swiss alps. They car for the powder glide over ice moguls and drink hot cocoa and marshmallows by the fire and pretty soon love is in the air. Paris hasn't had it easy in the relationship department. I there was rick. Solomon who have already given way too much airtime tail and after him. She hooks up with a model named jason shaw jason's eight years older and he's actually really nice. They even get engaged but then falls apart her sister nikki will later say she had a hard time letting people in she basically has your run of the mill trust issues. Oh shocker after rick solomon. Why ever wouldn't she talks anyone right then. The next boyfriend. Well let's just say he's a close runner up to solomon and the bad boy department. You wanna guess who it is. Oh i know who. It is bad boy. Nick carter ding ding dang. She meets nick in two thousand three when he's apparently at the height of his bad period. He's got to think for drinks and drugs. Mostly ecstasy in coke but some nights held drink entire bottle of vodka all by himself. Now don't get me wrong. Paris was a party or two. She going to clubs and having fun which was like adding fuel to the fire. Every other picture. I found their partying somewhere fabulous. A club in the bahamas. A club in new york club in london in fact in london she and gets a tattoo with his name on her. Dairy air okay. I guess she's committed. Nothing says forever like an asked hat. While in this case forever is three more weeks they call it quits in july. There's rumors nick cheated on her with ashlee simpson which he said he did to get back at her for cheating on him with chad. Michael murray whatever happened. It was a toxic relationship. And now it's done paris. Just wants a throwback her walls and move on. But then nick comes out with a book where he blames paris for everything he writes and i quote. She awoke in me the worst instincts. All of this could have ended in tragedy for me. Oh poor little thing god. Even the rich play the victim i know. So what about the tattoo. So she turns two laser tattoo removal. And never gets inked again. Ouch that must really staying for nick. Carter totally nick. Carter may not have been the right guy for her real boy band. Member waning in popularity was never gonna take paris off the market for long. But it still hurts. It always hurts. Paris will say that she dives into love i. She says she just wants to be normal. She wants to be happy. But how is that possible. She's never been normal and she doesn't really know what happiness is supposed to look like so she pretends show later say she was just acting the way she thought happy people did. That's how badly she wanted love. But then five months later she gets her chance when she needs paris lettuce on the slopes. Oh yeah i forgot. We were in switzerland the to have a blast together. Lattes is honest and loyal. He makes her feel safe. She says every day. I'm like this is not real. I thought i was just going to settle in up some jackass while it was pretty touching go there for a while it really was but now paris finally found the one and he feels the exact same way on may twenty fifth two thousand five five months after they meet lassus gets down on one knee and offers her choice of fifteen different rings. Only fifteen. at least that's the rumor. Paris picks a wildly expensive twenty four carat diamond rock with more jewels on the side. But then she has second thoughts and she says my four point seven million dollar rock is like making my hand tired. Oh the travesty. How will she survive. Yes so he gets her another one for one. Her hand is tired. I'm not kidding. Wow true love. It really is but before they get married. There's just one little piece of business. They need to get out of the way they have to get the in laws together. It's july of two thousand and five in paris. Hilton stands at the bow of a yacht in the middle of the mediterranean sea. But this isn't just any yacht as if there were such thing. This is the paris one of the many. The last family owns it has a jacuzzi and kitchen staff and security guards. And it's more of a private greek island but paris isn't alone. She's there with her parents. Rick and kathy and our beloved fiancee. Lattice they're all here me. His parents marianna nikos for lunch. There are very conservative. Very rich and very low key greek orthodox family who don't read the american tabloids. They barely even know who the hilton family is. Though marianne and her husband did meet paris once in la and it didn't go great when they tried to make small talk with paris. It was like they were from two different worlds. Paris would leader tole friends. They asked me lots of questions about culture and stuff that no one my age could be expected to know but maybe paris can make up for. Now they're all going to be a family soon. In paris figures that parents will have a lot in common. They fly private. They live in a mansion and skin guts that they also both have kids named paris. Yeah they're basically the same people right now. She just has to wait for them to arrive. But lunch comes and goes and still no parents. I imagine paris. Picking stuffed grape leaves dejectedly maybe tapping in on the table impatiently. I love that image. And then suddenly her fiance announces. They are not coming. Apparently the local papers have been reporting on paris's past and her antics and lattice don't like it they're private people so they slip off the nearby island and sail away later. Marianna will tell a greek magazine. That quote she is in no mood to make the young woman her daughter-in-law when anyone can see her in an erotic entanglement by visiting the neighborhood video club. Oh my god not the damn sex tape. Yup neither the hiltons nor the. Let's talk about the fiasco but it's widely rumored that's how it went down and two months later. The engagement is off. Maybe because lots doesn't wanna marry without his parent's approval or maybe paris was furious. That lasts didn't stand up for her but it's done for paris. It's gotta feel like a punch in the gut. She opened her heart. And it's crushed again. She issued a statement saying we remain best of friends. And i'll always love him lattice issues his own statement saying right now is a very tough time for me. I love paris vary much. This was the best experience of my life. Okay that sounds like somebody who just went skydiving. Not boston love of his life. You know for paris. It's another reason to put up her walls. Emma crazy thing is the rest of her life is blowing up. Her business is literally soaring out of the stratosphere by two thousand five. She has a clothing line jewelry and handbags plus her perfume line. Which is flying off the shelf this year. Her centers called. Just me paris's business is herself and people are buying. She charges up to two hundred grand for a twenty minute appearance. Parties saver clubs. She tells a reporter. If it's in japan i get more. She earns almost seven mill in a single year and now the simple life is about to start shooting again with new. Bff kimberly stewart ellison. Her mind and there will be new adventures and more new fans. All the pain is behind the sex tape. The bad relationships are broken. Friendship with nicole but then on. October fifth fox pulls the plug and cancels the show. They meant what they said. If nicole in paris aren't in it together it's over. Ooh peres gamble backfired. Yeah i imagine paris waking up to the news and blinking. Her big blue contact is and being like what the hell. It's gotta be a wakeup call. She may be in control of her brand but she has no control over the rest of the world especially the world. She wants to be in tv and film. Maybe she's not as big as she thought But then six weeks later e offers to pick it up they have just one condition. Both nicole in paris have to agree to be on the show in two thousand and five years. just a small cable network mostly celeb- news and gossip. They're just dipping their toes into the reality world with girls next door. A show about the playboy mansion. But what choice does pairs have. She wants her show to keep going and she has faith in her fans. She knows they'll follow her wherever she lands. But there's still that one little problem or huge problem. Nicole in paris aren't talking in. Paris doesn't particularly want to talk to nicole either and the feeling is mutual. So what would you do if you were ian and really wanted to do the show I don't know maybe they can like shoot on a green screen and superimpose one of them. All right george. Lucas crazier than that. If you can believe it ready for this concept shoot. So he doesn't really have the money fox does it's too expensive to shoot on location and put everyone up so season four will take place in l. a. M going to take advantage of to rich girls in their native habitat. They get to keep their cell phones and their credit cards. But here's a twist in each episode. They're going to play wife to one family. Both of them the same family yup same family but a different one. Each week. they'll shoot on different days and take turns being mom to the kids. At the end of each episode the family decides which girls the better wife so e is pitting them against each other totally they want to build a whole series around their real life feud and call it till death do us part. That's kind of genius. Paris's lake fine works for me as long as i don't have to talk to nicole. Where do i sign. But he's like not so fast. Just one tiny little thing you and nicole will have to come together in. The finale episode in paris agrees the simple life season. Four begins production in los angeles in february. Two thousand six. And i gotta say some of the episode plots are kind of funny in one. Each girl supposed to take the family on a camping trip. Paris takes them to the hilton hotel and hires bear cubs to make it look like camping and then the day comes to shoot the final episode. Paris and nicole will be reunited in the same room for the first time since who knows when the episode is called confrontation. The plot is hilarious. Basically para sons a look alike to do her job because she's tired. So nicole spends the day with this elderly couple in the local but to get back at her nicole reporter and spends a bullshit story that paris had a fling with mark anthony and is now pregnant with his baby. Then pair skits pissed races over wearing a blue maxi dress and matching shawl and finally the two are together para says how could you do this to me and nicole says how can you wear. Blue for. nicole is funny. She is in paris. Paris's great at playing straight man. No matter how much they hate each other they have great chemistry. Then peirce glares nicole and says this is gotta stop. We have to talk nicole. Glares back so talk and then it cuts out to be continued next season. Ooh a cliffhanger. I'm not sure how i feel about that. While i can't tell you how the viewers feel they feel cheated. They actually feel that way about all of season for it gets only one point. Three million viewers compared to the debut of thirteen million so like ninety percent drop. Yeah pretty grim basically. The show is missing this special sauce that made it a hit in the first place. It's missing their friendship parrish. Shrugs it off and tells herself it'll all be fine. She's got other stuff in the works that she's sure her fans will love. Paris is ready to take on the world of music with an album. She's known as someone who's famous for being famous but she wants to show everyone she has more to offer another side who she is. She loves music and she's always wanted to sing. She's been playing the piano and violin since she was six. She started putting together a team to help her back in two thousand three she handpicked producers. Which of course are the best because everyone wants to work with her. She records and re record songs. She even write songs of her own on a press. Junket she explains why she wanted to album now. People think that. That's really how i alam assembly. But i think with this record on this show people that i am a lot different than what they think. This album is more authentically. Paris than anything she's ever done before it's part reggae fusion part electro pop. It's an electic. Mix of sounds. A few tracks even have a hip hop influence on june fifth. Two thousand six the first song drops. It's called stars are blind. It's catchy and playful. Or as one critic puts it it's like tropical escape from paris tabloid headline persona. Is that good. Well it up to number eighteen on the billboard charts and is one of the highest ebbing singles of the year and paris is finally feeling the love again. Her fans are still with her. And it goes a teeny tiny bit to her head before the album drops paris tells an interviewer that she sees herself as an icon. Just like madonna roof old clamp. Yeah kind of the secret philosophy. Visualize it and it happens accepted. Doesn't the album lands in the charts at number six which is good but it only sells seventy seven thousand copies in the first week which is far less than expected or as one paper puts it paris album sales. Only sort of hot reviews are mixed to one guy says it's a bad record whose details rarely merit further thought. Another one is a little bit nicer. He calls it a flash in the pan a fluke but an incredible one but most people basically relegated to the dustbin category of vanity project. It's not the best reception for sure but it's about to get a whole lot worse in fact paris's about to have a very bad week. So i've mentioned before that my mom has used the madison reed hair-color and she loved it. The color was beautiful. Her hair was soft and healthy afterwards. She's definitely gonna use it again. Maybe the best part about madison reed is that it costs a fraction of what you'd pay to go to the salon. That's right and they help you. 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He's going to rip celebrity culture a new one and the morning of the album launch. He's ready. He goes to record shops up and down. England and when the shop clerks aren't looking key swaps paris's with his own alternative version with tracks produced by the dj danger mouse. It's a meticulous food down to the sticker on the album cover naming the feature tracks. But i'm this version. The tracks are. Why am i famous. What have i done and most tragically. What am i for. The first track is basically fourteen minute loop of para saying that's over house music once in a while. She'll also say 'i boobs look at in this. Paris worked her ass off on his album. And with just one stunt thanks. He turns three years of hard work into a total joe. Damn peres must be devastated. I'm sure she is and her. Life is about to get a whole lot worse. it's september seventh. Two thousand six pairs zipping down sunset driving her mercedes salarmy mclaren she. And kimberly stewart just left a charity event hosted by dave navarro and they're hungry guesses bite-size hotdogs didn't do the trick. They never do. The mercedes by the way is a five hundred thousand dollar cars. It has those wing doors. You know like the batmobile which means you see it coming on the road so it's no surprise when just after midnight it catches a policeman's i paris has heart drops. She sees the police cars lights flashing right behind her she slows to a stop. She watches the officer. Get out of his car and slowly approach emotions for paris to roll down her window and she puts on her most winning smile. He's not having it. He tells her she was driving a little fast and reckless and radically paris's like i'm so sorry officer i'll be more careful. He's like ma'am all need you to take a breathalyzer. And at that point she screwed. She blows a point. Oh eight which is the lowest limit of what qualifies for a dui in california. She scrambles to explain. She tells the officer she was at a charity. Event hosted by dave navarro and only had one margarita. Just one she says it must have gone right to my head. Because i'm so tired i've been working crazy hours on my music video and i haven't eaten anything. That's exactly why. I carb load every time. I'm about to leave the house. Yeah that's just commonsense. Paris keeps talking. She says she's on her way to in and out right now to get food so she'll just be on our way. Thanks officer the officer is like not so fast before she knows it. She's in handcuffs and on her way to the station to be booked for driving under the influence. I'm sure she scared shitless but she has people to handle these things like super expensive lawyers and they do she just has to pay a fifteen hundred dollar fine and go to an alcohol education class. She's also put on probation for three years and her driver's license suspended for four months. And still that's not the end of her no good very bad week. A couple of days later. Paris sitting in the back of a limousine an hour north of london heading to a birthday party for richard branson son. Sam sam is five years younger than paris. But he's also one of britain's most eligible bachelors so paris jumped at the chance. Bonus points for the fact that the party has kinky mad hatter theme and when paris asked sam she could come as alice. Sam says yes so. Paris is almost like guest of honor so the polls up at searchers state. The party is already in full swing. Prince william is there with kate middleton princesses beatrice and eugenie. Are there you've even got prince harry who arrived extravaganza. I'd be so nervous but it's pair. She's probably fine. No you're right. She's nervous but she tries to look confident when she steps out of the limo. I mean she's looking pretty good as alice and then she heads under one of the circus tents gracing the lawn and that's where she spots another woman dresses alice. She's weaving through the crowd carrying a tray of sushi then another alice breezes past carrying a tray of champagne every server at the party is dressed as alice. Who god but paris doesn't let it phaser. She keeps a smile on her face and walks up to richard branson ready to tell him how amazing the party is but branson pretends he doesn't recognize her instead. He hands an empty glass and ask for refill. Paris freezes then everyone laughs at her there in on it. My god branson went full middle school on her. That's kind of meeting yeah. Supposedly sam told his father that pairs was planning to come to. The party is alice. Branson secretly ordered the same costume for all sixty of his staff. But of course paris is people deny she was ever there. I would have my people to the same. Paris has been on the butt end of jokes before but the cream of british society laughing in her face. That's really got hurt. I hate this i know. And it's still not the end of her terrible horrible very bad week. When paris gets back to the states to go out for a night on the town a vip spot in new york called the rose bar in the gramercy park hotel. It's where the city's movers. And shakers go. When paris pulls up winona ryder orlando bloom. Are already inside partying. But the bouncer takes one look at paris and says nope paris has gotta be like. I'm sorry do you know who. I am. But the bouncer knows exactly who she is. That's the problem. Word came down from the very top owner ian schrager. That paris shouldn't be allowed past the velvet rope. His exact quotas. The likes of paris hilton and her ilk are not welcome here. Damn yeah he insists. It's not personal. He wants to place to feel. You know exclusive really because it feels personal. Yeah it's got sting. Here's the thing about paris. She's wildly successful by anyone's standards. She's more famous than she's ever been but she's the only one who thinks she deserves it. The public for the most part hates her. It's like the dumb entitled. Air sack is starting to backfire. The public is still fascinated by everything she does. But now it's like. They're all rooting for her to fail. Understandably paris doesn't wear it well. She starts acting out and lashing back at everyone who mistreats her like her very public feud with lindsay lohan who let's do lindsay for a future episode. Yes paris the heiress big. Kathy's granddaughter never backs down instead. She doubles down. Who the hell cares. She thinks she's already made a ton of money. Her perfumes are still wildly successful. Who was anyone to tell her who she should be. They don't know the real paris and they never have. Why should she care what they think. And that's how she finds herself speeding along sunset boulevard on a suspended license. It's eleven pm on february. Twenty eighth two thousand seven. And she's on her way from mega store this time. She's an bentley. gt she steps on. The gas turns up the music and yawns when all of a sudden it's the police when they pull her over. They tell her that her headlights on. She's like oh no idea. I just pulled out of a brightly lit parking lot. They say you're speeding to then. The officer runs her driver's license. It's suspended she tells him she's allowed to drive to and from work but then he finds a letter from the court in her glovebox that spells out the terms of paris's suspension. and nowhere. Does it say she can drive herself to work. Oh yeah he tells paris she'd better call someone to give her a ride and that's how find are standing on sunset boulevard watching her two hundred thousand dollar convertible being towed away. I imagined she goes over the events of the past few months and is kicking herself for not taking the dui more seriously yes. She paid the fine but she never took the class. She could have hired someone to drive her around but paris loves to drive and now she's in some shit. It's may fourth two thousand seven at the metropolitan courthouse in downtown los angeles. And you'd think there was a blockbuster movie opening. There are hoards of photographers standing behind yellow tape and people milling around like they're looking for stars and then a black escalade pulls up to the entrance. The back door opens and paris steps out. She's wearing this grey pinstriped jacket and black pants with these black oversized glasses on her eyes as she walks up to the doors photographers holler her. Name's normally pairs waves and smiles to the cameras. But today she keeps her head down says nothing in walks inside. She arrives fashionably late by eighteen minutes. Never a good way to start your own. Hearing from there things go from not good to worse when she takes the stand. The judge asked her why she was driving with a suspended license. She blames it. On her handlers. He tries again. Do you understand the terms of the drunk driving. Please sign on january. Twenty second her answer. I just signed what people tell me to sign so basically no ownership. Yeah she says her publicist told her she could drive to and from work the publicists even baxter up on the stand. But the judge isn't interested. Paris responsible she signed the terms. Paris's attorney jumps in and says that pairs has quote unique issues in needs. She simply made a mistake. And then it's time for the judge to render. his verdict. paris quickly makes the sign of the cross forty five days in jail chaffee yells the prosecutor. Your pathetic paris christ. It isn't fair. it isn't fair but it's done she's going to actually have to surfer time and not in some glamour slammer with cable. Tv yoga classes and all the fresh coffee you can drink. They're sending paris to a real jail to her credit five days after the hearing she issued a statement that says i absolutely realize how serious driving under the influences. I could not live with myself if anyone was injured or killed while i was driving while impaired. I'm to face the consequences of violating probation. No one is above. The law is shirley not. I do not expect to be treated better than anyone else. Who violated probation. However my hope is that i will not be treated worse damage to yeah two nights before she's scheduled to report to the pokey. Oh my god nobody calls it that old circle. Maybe she goes to the mtv movie awards where she throws. The press offer. Tail and nervously makes her way to lynnwood correctional facility where she trades in her. We cocktail dress for streak lows aben poses for the camera for her mugshot. She still wearing dark black eyeliner and thick mascara. She actually looks really good. She knows this photo will soon be featured on every tabloid magazine every gossip blog and every celebrity news. Show in the country then. She's given a standard orange jumpsuit and a female corrections officer ask for all her possessions. Paris clings to her bejeweled blackberry. It's her lifeline to the outside world. But she knows she has to let it go as she hands over the phone. She sees the black ink on her fingertips. Chill later. say the only going through her mind was oh my god. I can't fucking believe i'm here. I felt like i was in a bad movie again. Just kidding after booking a guard escorts payers to the special needs unit. It's a wing that separate from the other prisoners. It's basically a dozen cells reserved for police officers public officials celebrities and other high profile inmates as the guard escorts her down the hallway. Female inmates stare out at her through small windows and solid metal doors. The last thing she wants is for everyone to see how scared she is. Paris always projects an image that nothing can hurt her. I imagine she says herself. Paris be strong. She steps inside the eight foot by ten foot cell. There are two bunk beds with obscenely. Low thread count sheets a small metal table a sink and a toilet with no privacy. Her mind flashes back to her nightmare. Year at provo canyon school nine years earlier days locked in solitaire barron sell. She's been claustrophobic. Ever since and now here she is alone again with a lot of time to consider what went wrong and what. She wants to do differently when she finally gets out. This is episode three of our four part series paris hilton. If you like our show please give us a nice review. Nice reviews make our day and be sure to tell your friends friends. Make everyone say. Subscribe to our show on apple podcasts. Spotify the wondering app or wherever. You're listening right now. Joining us in the wonder app to listen ad free in the episode notes. You'll find some links and offers from our sponsors. These support them by supporting them. You help us offer you this show for free. 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Paris Hilton has a youtube doc that is officially out today and the part that's getting the most press so far as she comes forward for the first time with allegations of abuse, she says, she suffered at a teenage as student at a Utah A. Correctional School call it a disciplinarian school call Provo Canyon School Fox News spoke with six former students, ECK staffer of the boarding school who shared their own stories and corroborated her claims of either suffering or witnessing physical and mental abuse tackling kids and strangling kids forced medication beating solitary confinement. One woman even says, she was sodomized by one of the staff who is trying to inject her with something in a recent interview with people on done. Eleven months. Yeah. Well, wait a minute. Is this a place that rich kids are rich families accession their kids for disciplined like a boarding school that as a higher Level Yeah I mean I would imagine Utah has different rules they say, what Montana? The DAKOTAS have a little more loosey Goosey relationship with the discipline the boarding schools I have a clip from show that she talks about you know begging come home. Please go home I've already been through so much I promise I'll never go to a club again please like I can't go back to these places if you've no idea. There is no convincing them. No matter what I said. Scientist entrust them. I may not trust anyone not even my own family. We're girl for. Voice their. Told you, there's a lot of dog link between voices in this. So First, off I, do love the fact that everyone just hates their parents that. Even, the Hiltons. She's probably out of control when she was fifteen like her sister going out clubbing in Manhattan. So they send our to Utah but I don't get the part where it's like she didn't trust that like. They were they sent her at the center way to this place because she was probably out of control in Manhattan was not a good. City, she was going full greenacres in Manhattan over there with New York is where I'd rather stay. Get. Alerts you WANNA. Go to Utah Like I love you but give park. Avenue. I get it but you can't go to boarding school for four weeks and then come back. That's it's going to defeat the purpose. But don't usually think of boarding schools like overseas like I went to an all girls boarding school in Switzerland it was boring, but it was fine but she went she got she got beat up in Utah according to her I look I. I'm so tired of everybody everyone looks back on their child and goes this guy was abusive or this coach was abusive over this this whatever look if you get sexually abused, you get sexually here's the part where like you were bullied by the coach or your bullied by the counselor, the teachers were mean or they used to. Sit you in the whatever get the fuck over it. Everybody Jesus Christ it's called Fuck and growing up she probably went to a place that was a little bit scared straight because there were probably going we get a lot of socialites that are kind of control over here and we try to hit them with discipline and see if we can break them down fine again if you were abused I'm all ears but we've taken this definition of abuse and we've spread it out so wide and so thin now that what what we used to just call discipline is now is now swerved into the lane of abuse like if she's GonNa come up with specific stuff fine people being mean or people being tougher discipline I. Every football coach ever had was abusive, but I didn't look at them as abusive. They're just doing their job like they just wanted to win. They call you everything and kick your hand. When you're in a three point stance call you ladies even learn staffer said there was no training on how to physically restrain anyone we just sorta. Did what we did and They said one hundred percent of the staff abused their authority given to them. So a hundred percent that's what a former staffer said that everybody abused. Do they still do what they were doing? Yeah. I. Mean I. Get it. No one knows what they're doing everything is. You read the transcript of anything and it's all horrible now like here's what this person said. Here's this person did nobody had training whatever it is. But what happened I mean what was done to her I? Mean I don't know thunder only saw the first half I think off to wait to the second half because that was just the sizzle we watch. That was like I don't know being pissing your parents 'cause they're trying to get you under control as it is a teen I know everyone hates their parents were in their teens but I don't know she probably needed to state a place like that even longer than she ended up staying in either way. Everyone hates her parents living. May. US President Donald Trump indicated that he is open to an election debate between he and Joe. Biden moderated by Joe Rogan a tweet put up UFC fighter Tim Kennedy I. Think we have it says on my podcast with Joe Rogan offered to moderate a debate between Biden and trump it would be four hours with no live audience just the two candidates cameras in their vision of how to move this country forward who wants this and trump replied I do. Yeah. I'd watch it probably they're probably be the. It probably the best form to to do this in. We probably get more information than we ever needed. There'd probably be seven thousand soundbites of trump saying horrible things that would definitely come back to haunt him. So I don't know how badly he wants to do this I'm sure Biden's not going to do this but why now comes back to haunt trump Dead Wrong. Why? Why not I mean why couldn't we do it this way I it'd be better I. Mean I would I would be if you're looking if you're if you're saying, okay, what's the debate? What are we trying to solve? What are we trying to accomplish in a debate and I? Think what we're all trying to do is we're gone well, we'd like to kind of strip away the veneer in the Husk of the canned answers or any the. are are or the teleprompter speeches or we just we wanna know long form what these people think on this subject and on that subject then away, this is kind of the purest form of that format. You know there's a version of this format and I like the no audience and no audience is is is good because what happens is people start playing to the four hundred people that are in the room and and they start saying things that are sort of insane like go when I'm in charge, I'll shut down all presents and Erin search hearing is not only that all take the cops and put them in prison and every search cheering louder and it's like your constituency agree with that you're just You're just doing a hook them horns thing when you're the University of Texas which I can tell you the whole audience will just erupt if you hook them horns and it's a, it's a flashback to me drew playing Think University of Texas at Austin. Longhorns it becomes. When you get that crowd who agrees with you it comes very easy and then they do a thing where they go. Who says? Show of hands who thinks college should be free. For people that are in this country illegally and ever inserts hand and there's a poor guy. I'm raising my hand too because everyone is raised their hand and like people are cheering. The audience should covert or not. There should be no audience in a debate they should be cheering. They shouldn't be saying things they shouldn't be pandering or playing to that crowd at all. It's pretty it's not yes. Let's not forget that all anyone ever a members for years are the zingers right? It's all about the you know the Gotcha with a clever line or whatever ridinger in a in a weird. Pure as long as we're on this. Purest form. There should be no audience. and. They shouldn't even film it should all just show up an audio file like it should. They should go on the Joe Rogan podcast and to sit in the studio and do it there. Yes. I'm going to go deeper one. We should remove the names and the voice recognition. So we simply heard they audible we'd have. Okay we're going to have to Asian women. Realize transcript and you'll not gonna be the subject school choice and then this hear the one Asian woman reading and the other Asian woman reading. You're not going to hear the name not going to see him. You're not GonNa go that guy's got a sweaty upper lip. I don't trust him. You know what I mean that we know audience and know anything, and then we'll have our purest form of answer. That's the one woman comes out with only Rosie O'Donnell and my typical. That's right throws. The puppet. Yeah would it'd be it'd be an interesting thought experiment. No names just answers. We start asking questions about taxes or school or police or whatever it is, and it'd be. You would ingest the information more clearly that way more purely that way. All right. Do you guys. Do we now the. First debates two weeks from from people here. This is that the twenty ninth. That's right. Yeah I know I talked to one August. August like. Trump said they do the interview on Wednesday but? You're going to be Nashville on Wednesday. So I called back and ask them for the twenty ninth. I should yeah Mike. That's the date of the first debate and he's like. Oh. Well, we could do it later then I'm like. Consecutive do the first debate we're going you got to pick a new date Mike don't ask for dates that are circled on their calendar and he's like, okay so. Is. Do you think. Is Biden showing up for that first debate? Do we think he's GonNa? He says he's going to be there is there is anything going to come up between now and then? It would really shock me if it up in in what way scandalously. That guy tested positive for Kobe. Did I'm? Not GonNa? I'm not traveling. We'll do it via zoom or or some some version or is it just GONNA be straight neutral site Or Raider and both guys standing standing up there I you know I'm sorry to cut you off go ahead and I thought I was one of many people four years ago who like is trump gonNA show for debates like it wasn't in his best interest and he did it anyway I think Biden, has not a lot to lose because the bar has been set. So talked on the show the bars and set. So fucking still going with US narrative like has dementia camp string a sentence together and it's like We all were in agreement like vines GONNA show. It'd be boring and it's That's the most likely scenario could have a trip could have slept who knows when my my hunch is I'll just be borden. Well, that's interesting because I was going to pretty much the opposite, which is there's really nothing in it for Biden to show this because agree well, but people saying, Oh, my God, he's old he's nuts. He's so downhill and then he gained so much traction at the DNC and everybody loved that speech and that's a high note. So why not just leave it at that? The experts I've read and I'm no expert of course, is that there's enough people on the fence who biden were knocked to show up that would be disqualified other guys long that he's radio show that that would be a bad indicator for a certain segment of the population well, even like light supporters of him to. It's interesting because this is really less about Biden and more referendum on trump. So that would make the argument that we didn't need Biden. We gotta get trump out of there like like. By night was talking to. Talking to drew about it talking August about earlier today there is something that needs to be careful with Biden because of some of his wiring and then some of whatever he's going through little bit of our early onset. Something's got a little something going on has a kind of hair-trigger. He has his he's volatile like if some guy he'll get excited and start tripping over his right for guy stands up in the audience it goes like, Hey, your son Hunter Bein was he embraced my he'll go hey fatty with more check. Yeah. Hey Jack and sell lack. Now I talked to I was talking to drew about like Calm and steady hand having a little bit of a hot temper and drew said, you know he's got a little something going on neurologically and this is kind of part of it that that old man get off my lawn, you know kind of thing do you think trump goes in there and tries pushing some buttons to see if you can get him to pop off and kind of go hey, Mr Slow and steady over there turned out kind of angry be interesting if that's part of the strategy. All right. Let me hit Madison Reed Mr here, and then we'll keep going with the news Madison Reed. Well, they make hair coloring they make her hair coloring for women. 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The singer has broken ground on an ambitious plan to build a futuristic city. In Senegal that he says, it will be a real life version of what conduct the High Tech Nation portrayed in Marvel Blockbuster Black Panther. This according to CNN and many outlets. So a laid the first stone for a con- city I feel like it should be called a Condo and Con City sounds like a prison. Work will begin soon according to its official website. The solar powered city will have healthcare facilities, offices, luxury houses, shopping malls, skyscrapers, eco-friendly tourist centers it will be a five minute drive from the country's new international airport. The singer was gifted two thousand acres of land by Senegalese President macky. Sall to build the ambitious city aac on also says, he's raised part of the six billion dollars required to do so through unnamed investors. Well. You know we all grew up watching those sci-fi things with like the super cities with the monorail running through a Disneyland was kind of an attempt that that has got up more monorail running through there and the jetsons live there and everything, and it's like. It never works I don't know why never works. It's two thousand, an almost twenty one. Could we get it to work like just start you know just the fact. The fact that you look out the window of your home or your apartment or where we are, and the first thing you see is these wooden telephone poles that were dipped in creosote like turn of the century just got all this. Black sack all over, and it's just that thing was a ponderosa pine that they chop down eighty six years ago and they stripped it of its bark and dipped it in stuff that causes cancer and the pile drove into the ground, and then put like an antenna on top and then strung wire from one. The fact that I got a Condo Malibu I, look out the window of the living room. There's there they go right down the highway obsolete brought that up because we were driving through. Longo. Why just how? Those moments where you look at something like through a child's for the first time, and you're like this fucking beautiful stretch of land these ocean front homes, this multimillion dollar properties, it's covered in Webbing, a net of electrical and phone wires just as that and hang with Manhattan Beach Yeah, they're all little cockeyed. They've all been there since the forties. Disaster they fall off and start fires and everything. Burns. Chris former explode couple of dry like what are we doing with the wooden but they're not even metal they're not composite material they're not. They're not plumber level. There is a strewn about we're different positions. I got the weird cancer causing creosote like coating on them. Some of them have weird spikes. Termite and fast, and it's like why? Why don't we just start the fresh sheet of paper Berry, all the power lines get the little generators in the solar stuff working like wouldn't that be nice. Yes. Wouldn't wouldn't you and wouldn't everyone easily go get behind a proposition in an election to bury all power lines. So you would think Jean, uh, but let me tell you what I'm saying because on Belbow island were Christie's parents inherited their their hours from grandparents half the island voted to bury the lines. The other half of the island voted to keep him up. That was the thing in Manhattan beach. It went like basically block by block, but they were charging each resident of that house like twenty grand or something. But if it was an overall California state tax that that look the whole states on fire and a lot of you know, PG and E. whatever a lot of this could have been avoided of power lines are buried and their ugliest hell. So can't we all pitch in a couple extra pennies and barrows things earthquakes s the most dangerous thing. Lines what if they? What if they said Hey people of California would you rather have a bullet train that average thirty miles an hour from Mercedes Fresno or we just bury everyone of these fucking lines and we'll have a ton of money leftover be. I know it's weird. It's so old when you see pictures. From like turn of the century and Carts and old dirt roads you just see all those weird telephone poles everywhere and I was looking at my window now, just staring at one of those telephone poles going what fucking year is it like? Isn't this something a city in a state should figure out. Again, it would. It would be nice. Any politician that just said, look I. Don't give a fuck about schools and I don't care about social security. I don't care about the elderly and I don't care about special needs kids. I've got berry every fucking power line inside a three years in this God damn state of ours I will. It'll be clean, and by the way anyone who's ever gotten drunk and ridden moped into a power pole, you'd be alive today. Thank the lives of the lives. Of all the horrible vespas accidents. Are Common all the all the birds scooters were drunken people run into those fucking powerballs. If they just said, that's it. I'm the candidate of bearing every powerline. You're never going to have to look at this no more downed power lines no more nothing is a matter of fact. Dawson you can tell Max a or tell Kaelin. If you go back here's the part that I like. You go back to the Irwin Allen Movie Earthquake Brian brought up earthquake earthquake circa nineteen, seventy four. It was seventy four. Earthquake there was a pivotal scene when like little johnny the kid was walking across the La. River in in in Studio City you know the one that runs next to a Ventura Boulevard and it was like there's an earthquake in the power line things started falling in the poll foul and then the hot wire. Down in the thing and Charlton. Heston had to save him or. Trying to think, maybe the guy played shaft head to save him all I'll figure it out but either way. That is nineteen, seventy four and the exact same technology. The exact same thing if you walk out your house, you look out the windows exactly the same as it was almost forty seven years ago now and forty seven years before that it's the same. Those are old when the earthquake hit and seventy four and it doesn't have to be. It's not like come on somebody come up with the solution. The solution already exists only somebody invented something called burial conduit. Man. Oh, he. Money. They bury everything the New York buried a whole train one hundred years ago people. It's not that hard. We did it here to do a little trenching. You get one of the coolest named devices ever for digging a trench. called. The ditch witch ooh yeah. Don't be on don't be on the business end of the ditch witch and L. Dig a trench, and then you take your variable conduit and you put it in the trash and then you run your wires through the conduit. Does it leak? Does it poison the earth now and by the way in we could get the environmental on board because they cause all because. So many wildfires and save the telephone stuff for your grandma. We don't even need the landlines anymore whatever you're running up there Ma Bell we don't need that. Shit we just need the power Irwin Allen by the way did not prove earthquake. The competing towering inferno. Mark Robson was the producer. Oh really. So Irwin Allen did. And fern Oh society did Poseidon Adventure. He did all those big whatever movies but he didn't do earthquake interesting aright. 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Monitor all transactions at all businesses but you can find out if your information is on the dark web, get your free dark web scan at lifelock dot com slash scan took the plan that's ripe and Save Up to twenty five percent off your first year with Promo Code Adam. That's a free scan lifelock dot com slash scan and twenty five percent off with Promo Code Adam. All right. So there's an earthquake there's the big power lines they're small telephone pole. The kid is on a bridge the bridge falls into the wash he's crossing the bridge he falls off on his bike kicks. Good spill. Lands lands in the watch. The dams going to break too I think he's laying there on the bottom. This is all we had Karen Black by the way starring in this, the ground is moving all the hill houses on stilts are out there everyone's running around. They get a lot of mileage ever just shaking the camera back and forth running and then showing a lot of the same shots on a lot of the. Same things. Yeah. Yeah. Not Good enough for Irwin Allen. The. Still. Built. House. Falling down the side of A. Canyon Karen Black, it's a way to do a lot of horror movies. She lands on the same piece of earth that they've been moving around for ten minutes. and then at some point, that's her son. Her son is in the wash show house goes down Oh. Yeah. There's. Michigan who's GonNa. Make the TORTILLAS. All right now later on sorry Max better. But the kid is laying in the wash in the hot the power lines that are heated up fall in there, and the kid has scape because the water's coming through the thing and Oh, by the way. George Kennedy plays the COP in this movie twirling a tour yeah bumper. Bumper Morgan. Yeah. He he then parlayed that into into this and there's a whole weird national guard thing that had a kind of bizarre sexual gay sexual twist to it. Tell. I've told you guys about tat. Right. Not Sound familiar, Margot Gershwin or whatever his name was crazy name Mar.. God Margot Gordon ever as a character actor, he played a. He played a national guardsmen. And he had all these like Luca's who lived his apartment building who called him gay and made fun of him because Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very Weird and homoerotic. Yeah. Yeah. Unnecessary unnecessary. But later on when he was the national guardsmen talk about everything old being new again, he had the gun out and he saw the paluck guys like looting and. Back, then part of the story line was, hey, if you see a guy looting, you get to shoot them. No questions asked right. So it's like you're the guy in the apartment building and these guys have been making fun of you for the last two years calling again everything and now you got a gun and you just caught them at an appliance store. And you get to shoot this right. Didn't we have a caller call in and say that, her dad was one of the guys. Yes they they they did. All right. Is Not credited in the Oh no. Then who was it Toria principal now Victoria principal played the girlfriend. Of. All right. Victoria principal. Gina, you'll like this. Victoria principal has great set of tits right an and literally her job in this movie was just to wear a tight shirt and she was the boyfriend of. Roundtree who was the motorcycle. She was the sister of the Brotherhood like promoted. This guy was a daredevil and she just stand at the bar in front of a drunken George Canning just take opener shirt up and shore this like tight brawlers t shirt thing. So Victoria principal now that's producing. Am I, right or am I right? Yeah. All right. Then that struck a chord with a ten year old Adam Corolla but then the girlfriend of Chuck Heston was played by WHO. Know able to garner Ava Gardner was his wife. Is it genevieve bujold in the pink the I guess that was her may thought it was it looked like Karen Black. But maybe as genevieve crucial. Yeah. She was the girlfriend. It was back when Chuck Heston had a bitchy wife and it was understood that he was banging a younger. Younger chick. Yeah. That's them. The Karen Black it's genevieve whoever? All right. Let's bring it Home Gina. Grand you got it. I'm Gina. Grad and that's the news. That was the news with Gina Grad. Now, it's interesting for genevieve Gha jolt or whatever the biggest break in the world this. I'm doing this huge movie with Chuck cast in and I play his love interests like I'm the star, this movie and You Blink your eyes forty six years goes by still got power lines and she's dead. So enjoy your body look forward everyone everyone Erin look forward to this weekend. She's still alive is genevieve still alive Oscar the for. And of the thousand days, that's right. Rangy seventy. I'm ashamed I don't know about tighter note that is when what year was. That was that before then bro Oh. Yeah was and still alive seventy years young. All right. 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Well, House officially kicked out of the bubble had an unauthorized guest in his room said the housekeeper cleaned. Their own now and finally that Beladere. Fighter who got hitting a nuts twice is recovering and we'll be singing the high stuff for earth wind and fire New Year's Eve at Mirage this many update sponsored by the hat ingredients defense counsel. You don't know what's in fish sticks. We don't hear your bitching about them over to you, Jeff. Thank you very much, Chad let's dive into these headlines. Well, the ranch dame. That was a that was a tough push off call the rams game. It really made me realize there we've talked about kicking in the nuts de fake it if you got kicked in the liver and not in the nuts, you know we're talking about that La- Yesterday. Do you buy yourself. Some time DB's are now doing a kind of a flop move now that never really existed before they're calling pushing off because let's face it. These guys are so physical and so athletic. Now, the wideouts that that's a real thing and in the rams game, the DB did a little delayed flop move. If you guys saw that he was he got kind of pushed off, took two steps and then kind of did A. Scarlett O'Hara hands in the air. Move while. So if you watch him that we have it, he's running down the Running down. He gets pushed off of a little bit or held off, and then he does Kinda Whoa Lordy. And I. My I'm a rams fan. My feeling always let them play the of the game. I don't I don't like the bad chippy calls in the NBA him in the NFL I say let him play on the other hand. There is such a thing as pushing off and a lot of guys do it and it makes it pretty big pretty big difference and it should be called certain times. Yeah pushing should be called more often but yeah, the d-backs have had to compensate because they're clearly about a foot foot and a half shorter than most of the most of the receivers in the NFL now, and but in this particular instance, there was a. Sight to shoppers hand fighting it Ross dress for less. There was nothing happening at all until like you said about a second and a half later like a bobble head in the bag of a Chevy, you know jalen Ramsey head. And all of a sudden the flags come raining out of the markets in the officials. You know this is something I don't think anybody's quite factored in yet on the NFL everybody's so gangbusters to get it going and I understand it but nobody thought, Hey, are the refs ready to ref and they're not really was a lot of bad calls. My. Favorite leave every part of the preseason. Hey, it's preseason for these guys to write. Don't say on year round they also right one of my least favorite plays. But this was the way the announcer call it Max pass on the spot in the fourth quarter I don't know five six minutes left in the game the. Cowboy back did catch one got blown up and the ball came flying out. Of course it's a no catch but as I suck, hoover is a scream all the time. Oh, it was Amari cooper wasn't a jeep was a yeah he caught the ball he did catch all. He then started to turn and take it up field and got blown up immediately balls on the ground but I Like when they go, I don't know how the REF said it out. Loud. But it bothered me which he did not catch the ball. It's like he did catch the ball and then he got blown up and the ball is on the ground I don't for me it's not a mount it's not an amount of time. Did you catch the ball or did you not catch the ball? It bothers me every time. My feeling is. I don't need you to do much after you catch it if you catch it if we can prove that you caught it. Both hands on it and you've secured it. And then you get blown up. Then, the balls live. That's that way because you're taking away the best play. If you think about it, the best play a DB can make like you have to think about different positions. If you're playing tackle a pancake block is the best you're GonNa do or what have you? If you're a DB. An interception, a break-up as good an interception is is really good. But what are the best place you can make as a DB as having a guy, catch a ball then blowing the guy up and having the ball loose on the ground and then having either you or a teammate scoop it and go for six like that is that's on your highlight reel for sure. Yeah but I. Can't decide what a catches I think. They got the jet propulsion lab working on the schematics for this. It's sad because now part of the judging processes, you need to make the catch and then make an athletic move after the catch. I, kind of think the catch is the athletic move. That's a hell of a move I and you know how was that downplayed? That's a catch for pizza I say your mom putting the name Decl Juan on your birth certificate is an athletic move. So this this place a long time ago. Yes you caught the ball and. Now you're trying to advance the ball and you get blown up. It's all an athletic move now he's. So here's a way you can define it to me with high death. There are catches guys make where it hits the ball's moving around. They got like the back of their hands on it, and they're kind of trying to Tuck it in and they get blown up and they never really had that ball they. They probably would have possessed that ball, but they never really had they had seventy percent control that ball but not one hundred but then there's catches were. The guy gets both sticky divers gloves those what they started with those were diverse gloves by the way boasts sticky gloves and gets both hands on either side of the ball and he's caught the ball. He now possesses the ball then gets blown up I. Don't know if you can find that Max. Bad. This one was Bang Bang. This one was fast but he's still caught it and start running up field if you can find it out of you propose your replay gipp naked. No, no context just he just comes up looks at it Mexico. Let's let's do that with Gina. Do we have the Clip Junior College just watch? Cancer is it not? You know what? Else? No context now? Yes. Be The replay jump Gina the other the other way you know the other way to settle this is well. Is If you just she was tax thing this whole time if you. If you such on fact, if you stop. We'll see if you stop the tape like when means like person catches the ball? And starts to move the ball down. You just stop the tape and you go. Did he catch that ball? Then everyone would go yes. He caught that ball and then after we'll show you the place. It's fast but he is an interception foldable. Fumble? Recovered by the rams. The rams jumped right on it. You'll see it again does he have control compete down Watch Ramsey We used to see the Patriots do that all the time it looks like Ramsey's on a defense to cover down the field but he never was. Thing that's going to be called in. To I, mean look at the. Kind of. Second. Shiite the call you said it right control to down. Then he has to have the ball long enough to Kolkata common to the game. Does not have the ball long. Comedy the game. reversed. So here's the thing but here's the thing. Sorry Tina he doesn't have the ball long enough. He caught the ball he got both feet down he started to make a football movie didn't have it long enough. Yeah. Are we doing time length thing how about you catch all? You put both feet down and you start to make a football move sorry. Max None of those were very good. There's a there's one where you can just see him from the sideline just catch the ball and whatever Gina Grant I mean replay game yeah. It was kind of choppy but at least from where this kemp's stands, it looked like he almost caught it and then it popped right out. So why would that be considered a catch? A give Smokin the campus. Welcome. Almost. All right. Well, you can. We'll show you. You'll. You'll see some caught it. Got It. Yeah got to catch now he caught it versus the purple that guy in the regime. Got It. All right here. Caught it. It's not turned replay gone. split-second. But I don't the part was like he didn't have it long enough. Yeah. No. Mississippi, he caught it down on the ground. Listed requirements is like a recipe now for pizza and and the officials. Unlike college these guys get two, hundred k. a year plus they get to do an off season job if they want, they should be on top of this year on. Quite, frankly need as much preseason as the players they should be on top of this a little bit this you know I mean it's a pretty good sound and gig quite frankly. I don't know how these rules get so vague and so out of touch anyway well, spots. Key. Hose Nevada's only all puppet brothel. Try Our chicken wings. Next. NBA We touched on the bubble. There's more bubble issues they through the House Guy. Out. For having someone in his room but now Ray Reagan. Round. Lakers regime Rondos, brother William. Got Tossed from a game out of the bubble for Heckling Russell Westbrook. Right gets lost to the Lakers. They'd let like thirteen people into the arena. One of them's Olympic. Guy He gets tossed but ears the killer. He this William Rondo Guy. He wasn't just a spectator in there for to watch his brother he's in charge of all the barbers, hairdressers and manicurist. In. The bubble. So now the barbers hairdressers and manicurist are leaderless. The French tips are already showing sloppiness. I believe Jean the corn rows not clearly up to snuff. No one knows how to cut that Eastern European mullet. It's a mess. They gotta get this Guy Back in the bowl I mean. How you toss that guy out can can we cut this guy a little slack for being angry like having anger issues because he had his brother the whole time was like Rajon Rondo and a great ball player. This guy's a barber and his name is Bill Rondo and is like. People had to say to them like. I'm Rajon. Rondo. Okay. This is my brother. Let me gas rhino. Now Rodeo. Rondo Herman. Dijon Rondo not as. Bill. All right. Well. I like the back of my neck square. So kind of get. Get The Cape. I like when parents run out of creative juice Rajon Rondo name error then you go to L. after that. You just used all your creative name juices on the one kid and just kind of ran out of steam for the next. Maybe they maybe maybe they hit a wall with John in the sense of or Rajon Regime Hubbard's. Just at one point maybe maybe he's older he came home and he just went look this is not working and they said, all right. We can't change you. But the next kid up will will adjust is this foresaw Rhonda's labellings regime diamond. Oh. Bells even more pissed now right Anton and then there's William. See that this is what's going on. This is an anger issues that's steeped in family issues. He seeing his kid brother out there playing professional ball he's in charge of refilling the Blue Liquid Com- dispenser. Angry and his name's bill. Diamond Rajon regime what's the other ones? And Tana got. Rajon Anton Diamond and bill. Not since I've got a blowout and share seven bill, get the diffuser over here not since the band you to with the edge and Bono and Larry Calf. Is Bill the all this youngest I can't tell you order. He's got to get drunk at Thanksgiving and go to come on. What the Fuck Bill. Maybe. Sean over. there. Maybe. He wasn't a heckling the other guy. Maybe he was heckling his brother wasn't heckling Russell Westbrook. He was the APP. Maybe it was heckling Russell because he liked Russell's first name even better than bill. Maybe, this is the urban version of a boy named bill. Look name and Bill You grew up tot, right? Yeah. He knew he'd have to get tougher die. Any any idea of WHO's older who's younger as a younger than Rajon We. Don't so much smarter than me look in the I. They don't have it on computer screw it. 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Paris Hilton | Do You Know Who I Am? | 1

Even the Rich

48:51 min | 3 weeks ago

Paris Hilton | Do You Know Who I Am? | 1

"I miss episode. we're going to be swearing like a hotel heiress. He didn't get her side of ranch. Truly the worst thing that could happen so brooke Have you ever been to the waldorf astoria hotel new york now. But i've had a waldorf salad. That's almost the same thing in fun. Fact it just so happens. The waldorf salad was invented. Right there at the hotel in eighteen ninety three. But that's not what the story is about saying god or this would be a very short series. Wait what do you mean a salad. Featuring grapes walnuts and celery. What could be better literally any other guy. Okay we'll let me paint you a picture of the waldorf hotel in two thousand and three because that's where our story starts. The waldorf is on park avenue and it was once the tallest and largest hotel in the world. it's got marble floors these long mirrored hallways and fancy ballrooms and most of the people who stay there are loaded. We're talking movie. Stars kings and queens. Titans of industry in fact to past presidents even lived there but now in two thousand and three paris hilton lives in the residential part of the hotel along with her parents and brothers and sister. But it's still pretty sweet digs for twenty two year old plus there's housekeeping and twenty four hour room service which she calls a lot. Yahoo wouldn't can you imagine. Please end up some eggs. Benny a bottle of dom and some clippers. I chip to nail. Oh my gosh. Do you know why she lives in the waldorf. I'm assuming just because she's a rich heiress. Rich heiresses live and fancy hotels so true. It's because she's a hotel heiress Her family owns the hotel or more specifically her great grandfather. Conrad hilton bought it back in nineteen forty nine so as you can imagine everyone. There is really nice to her. It's miss hilton. This miss hilton. Matt how can i make your chihuahua. More comfortable miss hilton. They probably don't want to get fired. I wouldn't be surprised if they make fun of her behind her back because she's become a pretty easy target. She seems like ditsy wild child. At least that's the way the media portrays she's always on page six for something or other like the time. She danced a nightclub table and flashed her to the paparazzi or the time her nicole richie showed up to a club in matching denim suits and nothing else underneath. What does paris care if she sometimes the butt of jokes she pretty much has it all. She's loaded. She's beautiful and a few years back when she was nineteen. She signed with a modeling agency trump model management. Then she and her sister nikki. Linda shoot with one of the most famous photographers. David chapelle this opens a ton of doors for paris by two thousand and three in the confines of new york. She's one of the city's most famous boldface names. The tabloids cover her antics. She's walking the runway at new york fashion week. She can get into any club. Helped clubs sometimes pay her to be there but in the rest of the country. People still don't know much about her if she's going to be more than just a socialite and a model famous last name than the world has to know more about paris hilton and in just a couple of weeks they will. She's got a reality. Tv show called the simple life. That's about to premiere on a major network. If it works the show will take her career and her life to the next level and bring her face into millions of homes. And let me just say this is two thousand and three well before keeping up with the kardashians and the real housewives. she's gonna be a star and then something goes terribly wrong in mid november two thousand three paris on a flight back from australia when someone tells her a tape is out there online a tape of her and her ex boyfriend. That's let's just say influence a sex tape. Yup who's the ex. His name is rick salomon and he's one of the top pro poker players in the world and paris's i love. They dated for about seven months. Split up then got back together. But it wasn't meant to be and this was back in two thousand one. They both since moved on. Rick got married and had the marriage annulled. Paris got engaged to than broke it off. Even the rich have commitment issues especially the rich for parasol. Relationship was so long ago back when she was nineteen. She doesn't even remember making a video with ric. maybe it isn't her when her flight lands. She rushes home. It doesn't take long to find. She holds her breath and presses play. Its home movie a single camera. It looks like it was shot. In night-vision she watches a woman walk into frame. And this woman is tall and blonde and wears nothing but lebron's underwear then. She looks over her shoulder at the camera. And it's her yup and now it's out there online and she's mortified who else has seen it. When her phone rings she knows who it is. Damage control it's jason. More jason's been working to be paris's goto manager. He's a trainee. One of hollywood's biggest talent management firms and paris is his ticket to a corner office and he's not happy either. He knows that this tape is out there. That means the tablet tablet the national enquirer the star the globe. He asks her. If that's all there is or if there's more details of the night start to form in paris's mind the drinking rick with a video camera. There's more she says. Why would he do this. No one can actually legally publish this video right. I don't think so he says but my guess is they're going to and all of a sudden that new life paris is about to start. It's going up in flames business. Movers has a new podcast from wandering to dive deep into the most successful companies of all time because behind each are stories of the difficult decisions that made them who they are. First up is disneyworld. Business movers premieres january fourteenth. But you can listen. January seven and free by joining one re plus in the wondering wondering feel the story from wondering marisha skidmore williams and brooks different. And this is even the rich where we bring you absolutely true and absolutely shocking stories about the greatest dynasties the world has ever seen. It's a show about power high. You get it how you keep it and what happens when it goes to your head. It's also about how the rich are just like us because even the rich love and cry and dream and hope and sub tweet about their xs. Well drunk those are the fastest so brooke. I'm taking marines on this one. Because i'm fascinated by social media influencers. Isn't it crazy that people can be famous for. Just you know being famous And they're making money like really good money just today. I learned that there's a nine year old youtuber who earned twenty nine point five million dollars this year alone. I'd like to get off the ride. Now please save but before anyone could grow up wanting to me and influence her. Before there was even the term influencer. Someone had to pave the way and that someone was paris hilton. She was really the first celebrity of the first century who was famous for being famous and who understood the power of the media in reality. Tv and social media age. She realized her fame was a brand. Which is something. We practically take for granted today and our friend. Kim was fast to cash into kim kardashian. Yup emma kardashians took it to a whole new level. That's why this is going to be a two parter with our next series after paris. Hilton focusing on the kardashian family. First part over the next four episodes. We're going to dive into all. That is paris. we're gonna learn. She was shaped by her famous family. How she turned a sex tape which could have ruined her into superstardom and how the name paris hilton. What from the pinnacle of fame to people asking whatever happened to her. This is episode one. Do you know who. I am okay. So in order to understand how paris became paris. We have to go back in time to meet the matriarch who started it all paris's grandmother kathleen dugan also known as big kathy. Wait why big kathy. Because she eventually has a daughter named cathy who everyone calls little kathy who will marry a hilton and have our girl paris but that comes later. We need to know about big cathy because she's the one who set this whole ball in motion and she's a big reason. Paris became who she is as paris will later say it was her grandmother who made her feel like she could be whoever she wanted. Oh man. I love grandma's me to picture this. It's one thousand nine hundred fifty seven elvis presley's at the top of the charts sheath dresses and trim sweaters are all the rage. Love mia trim sweater. It's truly fashion. That's what i picture big kathy wearing when she steps off the subway at twenty third street and park avenue in new york city. She's nineteen years old and she has flirty. Green is in chestnut brown hair. Done up in font. Hairdo like elizabeth taylor. She's in new york for an audition at the american academy of dramatic arts. And she's ready to meet her destiny. Big kathy has always gone after what she wanted. No one's sure where she got it from exactly. Maybe her father. Big ed dugan who was a bigger than life politician and successful businessman or maybe from her mother dodo who is an energetic fashionable fireball. God big at dodo. I love these names. Big editor dodo. Hail from nebraska. But when capitalist ten they moved to long island's gold coast manhasset to be exact about twenty minutes outside of new york. Kathy is kid number three but she was always the most precocious of the bunch which is another way of saying. She does things her own way. Once she drops out at sixteen big at and dodo barely. Bad i have. He doesn't have much use for studies. She doesn't want to be a doctor. She wants to be a star famous. An actor singer. Maybe both and this is her shot. All she has to do is nail this audition but it's harder than it sounds. This is the oldest and best acting school in the country. Big cathy walks in and a receptionist takes into a large room. There's a huge table off to the side behind. It are four people. These are the judges who have her fate in their hands. They not hello polite but not exactly warm if she's going to make an impression she's gotta go. Big one of the judges asked kathy's ready. She says yes stages hers. I don't know what she performed. But i do know she killed it because fifteen minutes later. She's in it's a two year program but she actually only makes it through a semester or two turns out acting isn't as interesting as the honky guys. She hooks up with his name. Is larry ovens. He's handsome blond off and looks like a cross between steve mcqueen all newman and larry is equally smitten with her after some fun in the backseat of his chevy. She's pregnant and they're on their way to the altar. It's actually big kathy. Who insists on the marriage. And you don't say no too big. Cathy i definitely would not say no to cathy. She scares me same actually. Eight months later the baby is born a little girl. They name her kathleen elizabeth avenue but in her family. She's known as little. Kathy is his mother. No she's just a baby but eventually she be. Okay kathy's thrilled and she tries to be a good mother but she's just a kid herself. Plus her new husband is an exactly helping turns out. O'leary larry has a dark side. He likes to drink a lot. Big kathy can handle the drinking. She likes now and then herself. What she can't handle is his lack of ambition. He may be hot but the only job he can get is at the esso gas station but at least he's the manager. I mean listen. A job's a job right. You're right you're right. She and larry start to fight like crazy. And i mean really fight. According to one book he busted her nose one after she threw milk bottle at his head. This is nothing like big. Kathy pictured her life she was supposed to be a famous singer or movie star and now she's stuck at home with the baby and a crap marriage while her friends are out partying and having the time of their lives but big. Cathy was blessed with big determination and even though her own dreams might be dissolving away. She's still got her daughter and as luck would have it little. Kathy looks about as perfect as a baby can. Look i mean. Of course all babies are cute. Sure sure but also are they or is this something we have to say. I mean it's definitely something we have to say. So we're just going to saying but seriously little kathy is actually truly really cute. Now bullshit cute. She has light blonde hair and face like a doll. All pudgy rosie. People are always stopping big chemistry to tell her how beautiful her baby is which sets off a light bulb in kathy's head if she can't be a star maybe her daughter can so she starts schlepping little kathy from agent to agent in new york. She takes her to ad agencies to look at my baby's face. Look cute on your gerber label. Now larry doesn't like this at all. His wife is always gone when she's home. He's second fiddle but big caffeine. Doesn't care if larry doesn't like it. Larry can leave so he does. And then big kathy catches a break. There's a famous baby. Photographer named constants bannister. Who's a studio. Near big kathy's home bannister. Practically invented the baby photo. She so famous her photos are known as bannister babies. Their little faces can be found in books and on calendars and inside magazines. Big caffeine takes a chance and shows up on her doorstep with little kathy intel and bannister signs her on the spot pretty soon. She's in a dial so bad. Which leads to more paying gigs. At last big kathy's dream is coming true. Someone in the family is going to be famous around the same time little. Kathy's career starts to rise. Big kathy meets. A man is ambitious as she is his name. Is ken richards. Ken is a successful business guy. He markets women's clothes and he's good at it. He pretty much invented no iron cotton and the skirt Skorts the perfect attire to say. Hey boys wanna see what's under here. Bloom short. I still have my waiting for them to come but can is loaded. He's got a home on long island. An apartment in manhattan and a farm in upstate. New york basically. He's living the lifestyle big. Kathy always imagined for herself. Sure is twenty years older. But he's handsome and he seems interested. There's only one problem he's already married and he has three kids to boot. Y- yeah except that's not really a problem for big kathy. She leaps into a passionate affair but she doesn't just want to play the mistress. She wants to be the wife to him. She has moxie. I'll give her that. But at the same time i'm nervous i mean i sent a broken marriage coming. Yeah you're right. There's a story in the book house of helton's about how she shows up at kens hotel when he's out of town on business trips and eventually cans wife figures out he's having an affair and one day. The wife shows up at a restaurant to confront kathy about it and this is where the story gets a little scary. Somehow the wife ends up stumbling back to her car and lands in the hospital with a mangled ankle. She tells her kids. Big kathy drugged her and chased her to her car and slammed her april in the door when she tried to get away. I'm like i mean who knows if it's true you have to take these third hand stories with a grain of salt but what is true. Is that big. Kathy gets her man. After she gets pregnant can divorces his wife and may get married in that order. I'm seeing a pattern here when the baby is born. They named her kimberly and then a few years later another comes along and they name her. Kyle wait kansas laissez. Ms richard so that would make them kim and kyle richards from the real housewives of beverly hills. Yup and fun fact for you little. Kathy's joining them next season. Oh my god. I can't wait anyway. Now big kathy has three beautiful daughters and three shots at fame. Now let's fast forward a few years. The richards moved to california or bel air to be exact. And for those of you. Who don't know bel air. It's basically one of the richest neighborhoods in los angeles. I mean we're talking huge twenty thousand square foot mansions that cost on average three point. Eight million dollars. Lots of celebrities live there beyond say jennifer aniston jaylo an fun fact. We used to park cars and belair for the rich which is about as close to rich people if we got except that time. I sent a letter to brian. Latrell from the backstreet boys and he wrote back. Okay was a restraining order. He sent back irrelevant anyway. For big kathy feller is the perfect home base to further her girls careers and she goes full speed ahead as a stage mom. She enrolls her daughters acting classes. Dance classes singing classes. Guitar classes horseback riding classes. That's literally more classes than i took my senior year of college. And then in nineteen seventy. It pays off six year old. Kim lindsay starring role in the tv series danny and the professor a few years later she gets the lead a disney movie which ends up being a huge box office. Hit that same year kyle. Who's now six gets a regular role on little house on the prairie. Damn this is like the stage. Mom jackpot yes. She's killing it. Meanwhile little kathy. Who isn't so little anymore isn't doing as well. She gets role here and there. But nothing breakout or recurring. Those always go to someone else like her sisters. Which obviously isn't easy for little cathy. She's a beautiful young woman. She's trained her heart out before she could even talk. She was in front of a camera. I mean she was abandoned her baby. For god's sakes it doesn't help that her mother doesn't let her forget how well kathy sisters are doing as in better than her. But then little kathy gets a break showed. This is a backup singer for an episode of happy days. The band is made up of girls from reform school. Fronted by leather tuscan. Herro banzi is going to manage them and they had the coolest plots back then. It's not a big role but happy. Days is huge. Thirty million people watch each week. Maybe it could be her big break and kathy can really sing. And she nabs. The role wanna hear clip of her performance. Yeah of course. She's not bad so that's actually leather tuscany. Aero kathy's behind you can't really hear her but she looks great. Unfortunately though it doesn't lead to other parts not anything big anyway as their acting careers fizzling out little kathy ships refocused to her love life specifically marrying up mary rich and have lots of babies is the mantra. Kathy drilled into her daughter's heads that's according to big kathy's best friend jane halloran. Who will later say. It's all big kathy. Ever wanted out of life little. Kathy starts going on dates with rich and famous guys or famer jason. Anyway she hates dean paul. The son of pack icon dean martin. But he's in the middle of an ugly divorce and not ready to commit again so that doesn't work out so little. Kathy moves onto another guy with famous. Parents desi arnez junior son of the legendary lucille ball but lucy makes little kathy for a gold digger and puts the kyw bosch on the whole thing but little kathy bounces right back. She's young and pretty immense seem to like her. She starts hanging out at the playboy mansion back then a lot of celebrities and rich guys party there and they're known for slamming all over hot girls. Wow i'm shocked but also gross gross little. Kathy doesn't lend a husband at the mansion but she does. Landon offered opposing the magazine. Once she tells her mom. Big kathy is over. The moon. being playboy in the seventies is a huge deal. Stars like farah fawcett and raquel. Welch have been on the cover help. Marilyn monroe was their first covergirl. Back in nineteen fifty three plus. It's a lot of money. Twenty five thousand bucks which today would be like a hundred grand. Her daughter's going to be a star. Okay that might be a stretch. But i guess you never know for little kathy. I'm sure it would be nice to her. Mother's approval and be the sister that her mother brags about but the more she thinks about it. The more ambitious. She feels the way she sees it. Rich guys might sleep with miss october. 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In december nineteen seventy-eight trento beach the fanciest part of santa monica. It's christmas break but still warm enough for little kathy. They'd be tanning herself. In a bikini she stares out at the ocean pinochle in hand. At least this is how i picture it. Good choice with the pina colada. I mean what's the beach without a pena exactly. She's add another she she party except this one is different because little kathy has her eye on a guy. His name is rick hilton. He's the twenty three year old grandson of hilton hotels founder. Conrad she knew rick in high school but not very well now. He's all grown up with a mop of curly blond hair and a killer smile. He's finishing his last year at denver university where he studying hotel and restaurant management hoping to go into the family business. The hilton hotel empire is a billion dollar business. And someday it'll be his at least that's what i imagine kathy things now. She just has to get his attention. He's talking to a couple of girls but little caffey butts in. Hey you she says rick recognizes her and gives her a hug and that's all it takes the other girls disappear and kathy doesn't leave his side for the rest of the party or for the next few weeks it was the pina colada. Wasn't it probably pinochle out. Our hot little. Kathy follows rick back to denver while he finishes his final semester. The two are in love and she's already planning the wedding in her head. There's only one problem the hiltons are royalty and big. Kathy isn't especially now. she divorced. Ken richards when his career started to flounder and now she's gotten remarried to husband number three and let's just say he's a little not exactly the kind of guy i imagine. The hilton family would be thrilled. To welcome. As an in-law his name is jack. Cotin legit business front but word on the street is. He's a mobster. Probably because he's facing federal racketeering charges big kathy mott jacket a golf tournament in palm springs and fell hard. He sexy and has swagger. She's into his tough guy vibe when he gives her a huge rock. It's don big. Kathy really does love him but she also loves her daughter and she's not going to let her marriage to a questionable guy. Get in the way of little kathy marrying a hilton so she divorces him wow escalated quickly and it works on november twenty fourth nineteen seventy-nine at the church of the good shepherd in beverly hills. Kathy puts on a white gown. And says i do to rick hilton. She finally landed a bigger role than kevin kyle. I picture her looking over at her mother sitting in front row. Thinking hell ya. I finally got her approval. Hell yeah wait hold on. Should i be happy. I mean yeah why not. Everyone's happy big cafe is so happy. She remarries jack again. A few months later though they live in separate mansions a little over a year later on february seventeenth nineteen eighty-one little. Kathy gives birth to a baby girl. The couple name her after their favorite city in the world paris school. My gosh baby hilton. We'll kathy's must be thrilled. Oh bay are. Both copies may have missed their chance at stardom. But there's always the next generation. It's october nineteen eighty-one. Paris is nine months. Old and her cute chubby roles are tightly strapped into a carseat as her mom. Little kathy drives them through beverly hills. Kathy is all dressed up now that she's a hilton. She's part of an elite social society. I picture her driving a mercedes in chanel suit and pearls. I'm picturing skirt because she has great legs. I'm picturing super teased early. Eighties hair. So much mousse inaugurnat. It's one of my favorite things about the eighty s. Yes kathy's on her way to her in laws house maryland and barron hilton. Baron is the second son of his famous father. Conrad he's the heir apparent to the hilton hotels empire. Cathy secretly hopes when barron retires. He'll hand the torch to rick and she'll be queen when kathy arrived with the baby. Her mother-in-law maryland walks her into the mansion. Today maryland has a visitor from texas pat hilton. Who married to another of conrad sons. As soon as kathy arrives she hands paris to pat. Who choose and is she says well. Isn't she just the cutest little thing. Cathy nods probably meet star paths confused. She bought the baby's name was paris. If it is says kathy but stars what. I've called her since the day she was born. Because that's what she's going to be and then she excuses herself pet figure she went to the powder room or something except she did it. She left she got in her car and drove away. Didn't even leave any extra diapers. Where's she going wherever she's got a life. What in our nation here she is holding the baby with no idea what she eats or when she takes a nap and she has no idea when kathy will be back mother-in-law maryland just laughs. She says cathy does this all the time. She wants to go out and she knew you take care of the kid. One kathy comes back that night. Pat gives her earful. How could you just leave me with your baby. It's not the first or the last time kathy leaves pairs with whoever will watch according to the house of hilton book. Whenever kathy and rick state of the new york hilton they'd get someone from housekeeping to watch her sometimes for a whole weekend. Okay as a former housekeeper. I wouldn't love that again though. This is third party info. So who really knows. But i could see it. I mean she and rick are young just like her mom was when she had kathy they both work hard and liked to party may probably figure paris will be fine. She's so cute. Who wouldn't want to take care of her. But it's hard to imagine what that might do to a kid i mean. How do you think that would affect a little girl paris. I mean i don't know she'd probably do whatever she could to get attention. I would assume. But also i'm not therapist. The most of the attention she gets is from nannies. Since her parents are a lot of her hernandez was bethany frankel. My god will house of new york. Somebody housewives in this story. The skinny girl mogul. She was friends with kyle. Kathy's younger sister and that's how they met. When paris gets older bethany takes her and nikki to school. A fancy french place called lunasafwan say that she picks them up at the end of the day and they might go ice skating or she takes paris to the pet store to look at. Ferrets pairs loved ferrets. She had a couple. She carried around in her products are so cute they really are then. They all go back to the belair mansion. We're the hiltons live. It's a big white traditional house. More than seven thousand square feet with chefs kitchen and a wine room and a big lodge fireplace. There's even pool in a spa and a separate house next to the pool just for the gym. Which is good because the hiltons are throwing huge lavish parties. We're talking big catered events. Fancy food champagne. The works little. Paris often comes downstairs to make an appearance where she runs into celebrity. Friends of hilton's like with taylor ronald reagan and our moms pal from high school. You may have heard of him. Michael jackson Most of the time though paris's home alone with the hired help while her parents are off working or on trips but when their home. Oddly they're kinda strict stricter than most of the other rich kids parents. She knows it's forever until they'll give her a cell phone and they're always stressing the value of hard work. Oh and they have no makeup role which paris skit around by barring her friends and puts on at school and then washes off before she goes home then she gets bolder and start shortening her skirts just a little at first then a little more until one day the headmistress notices and calls her parents caffeine rick are irritated but let's face it. It's a minor offence but by eighth grade. Paris goes even bigger. She starts sneaking out of the house and going to clubs in la just a night out here and there but pretty soon she staying out later in going out more often. I mean she probably learned from her parents. Her parents are both big parties but to be fair they're adults old enough to vote and make mature life. Choices i don't know about that pairs is having fun. She likes the music dancing and the attention. She gets older guys. She's living it up. Maybe her parents won't notice but they do and they're pissed harris's lake just doing what you're doing but it's a do as i say not do as i do kind of situation. Okay all i can think about for. Some reason. is that anti-drugs ad from the eighties. Where the data was in the room and he's got a box of drugs like where did you learn that from the kids like i learned from watching you. I love the idea of keeping drugs in a box. Not just good sense. It's my drugs in box anyway. Rick and kathy are worried. Her behavior will influence her younger siblings. There's nikki in paris. Now has two younger baby brothers plus. Her parents are about to embark on a months-long yachting trip. So they won't be around to keep a close eye on her. They need help. It's august nineteen ninety-five and fourteen year. Old perez is being driven out of la for a little over two hours. She stews in the car furious with her parents. But there's nothing she can do. They pull up to a house in palm desert. That's much smaller than her belair mansion. She gets out of the car and slams the door and drags her luggage to the front stops. The door opens. Its her grandmother. Big kathy who is that the best choice in kathy's kind of a wild card. Yeah but remember. Cathy is tough. If anyone can get paris to behave. It's her but it turns out big cathy's not a drill sergeant. She's actually fine. She's adored baby para since day. One calling her marilyn monroe. One peirce arrives grandma. Lets her meet up with her friends whenever she wants. And she opens her doors to paris's friends. Everyone is welcome. Big kathy tells a friend that her daughter didn't pay enough attention to paris and that's why she acts out but still it's paris go out partying in palm springs. Twelve miles away turns out big. Kathy didn't take her in so she could straighten her out. She wants to make things happen for her help. Her realize she can be a star. In a few months. Paris's parents are back from their trip. Paris rejoins them but not in. La rick is opening an office in new york city and moves the whole family there into a penthouse at the waldorf birthplace of the waldorf salad. I listen exactly paris. Hilton is going to take manhattan. Hi i'm lindsey graham. The host of one reason new series business movers where we dive deep into the inner workings of some of the most successful companies of all time business. Movers is available early and ad free on one. Three plus from the origin stories of their famed leaders to the million dollar idea that catapulted them to success. How exactly did these companies grow from just a dream to multi-billion dollar corporations cure the landmark decisions to scandals and the stunning triumphs that propelled these companies to the top. I up disneyworld business. Movers premiers on january fourteenth on apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you get your podcast you can listen to the first episodes now early an ad free by starting your free trial of one plus in the wondering app with business. Movers feel the journey. One-day feel the story it's nineteen ninety-six and fifteen year old. Paris is living in new york city. And she's back to her old ways. Her parents have strict rules. No dating no makeup early curfew. But they don't work for her. She loves the city and it loves her back so she sneaks out at night when her parents are off at charity events are fancy dinners. I imagine her strutting through the lobby of the waldorf. She's wearing a slinky leopard print skirt and a low cut laptop. The doorman gives her a smile. Going out ms hilton. She puts a finger to her lips. Sh and gives him a wink. He opens the door. Hails her cab. She heads downtown and gets dropped off outside a nightclub. Maybe it's the limelight. That was big in the nineties. I picture a huge line at the door. And i'm guessing paris hilton doesn't do lines. Well maybe she does no way for us to know but she definitely wait in them. Paris saunters to the front in confidently flashes. Her smile at the bouncer. She may only be fifteen but paris is tall even taller. In her foreign stiletto heels she easily passes for twenty one. He glances at her fake. Id and lets her in the dance. Floor pulse eight men with men women with men women with women loving each other loving the moment drag queens artists fashioned. Isa's everyone is accepted here. Paris feels alive at the end of the night. She makes her way back uptown. I'm not sure how many times paris got away with this before she got caught but her mother has said it happened more than once paris would be out late and kathy would come home to find her gone so she'd start calling every nightclub in manhattan going out of her mind looking for her daughter so imagine one night. It's like four in the morning when paris sneaks back home for the trump team teamed time. But this time. Her parents are waiting arms crossed. And they're mad. They get even matter when they see what she's wearing leopard print and i'm picturing that necklace she had. That says hot bitch again. Definitely where that. Yeah mine's with joy is getting fixed. Eventually paris's parents have had enough. They take away her credit cards and flip phone. I remember flip phones. Such as the blur time the good old days. It's not just the clubbing net infuriates. Her parents her academic career. If you can call it. That is a disaster. Paris convinced her parents to send her to the professional children's school. It's this prep school for kids. Who are mainly in show business. Her classmates are broadway performers ballerinas and actors like macaulay culkin and christina ricci. But once she got there she had no interest in class or doing homework Given the number of razzies she's one. I can't say i'm surprised okay. I can't wait until episode. Four when we get to talk about her starring role in the classic film. The hottie and the naughty. It got a whole six percent on rotten tomatoes. Ouch yeah anyway. She's not doing well in school and she's breaking rules at home. Rick and kathy are at their wits end. They know they need to do something drastic. Get her away from the temptation of new york. So they pull some strings. And get paris to canterbury a fancy boarding school a couple of hours away in connecticut. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a nice donation that went along with that. Nor would i. but it doesn't stop paris from sneaking off campus and catching the train back into the city. People are starting to pay attention when she's at their clubs and she doesn't want to stop now sometimes. She even brings her younger sister nicky. Less than a semester later. Paris gets expelled from the boarding school for sneaking off campus to party. That's one her parents realize the issue. It wasn't far enough away from new york city. They're desperate to get paris out of the spotlight and clearly. They can't send her back to grandma's so they shipped her off to the most remote school they can find em- san bernardino national forest of southern california. It's literally in the middle of a redwood forest. The closest nightclub is hundreds of miles away but once she's there. Paris is completely isolated. The school is called c. Do it's an emotional growth. School like outward bound for rich troubled teens. She lives in a cold. No-frills cabin she's lucky to have running water. She yearns for her one thousand thread count sheets as she clings to a scratchy wool. Blanket counselors wake her up at the crack of dawn to start chopping wood. She's miserable she's used to room service. Not foraging for her own food. Yeah that'll fuck up your manicure. Extra this it's nineteen ninety-seven seven and sixteen year. Old perez is walking through the forest gathering up firewood with a classmate. It's midday in already over ninety degrees. They're both drenched in sweat and fed up. Paris looks around and sees that none of teachers are watching them she suddenly drops her kindling and says let's get out of here. She immediately takes off running through the woods through cornfields of mountain though it's hot as hell and she's parched. Paris is determined to get outta there. She can almost taste her freedom until she spots one of the teachers shit. She's hauled back to school what she knew what happened if she got caught but she didn't expect to be smacked across the face in front of her classmates. Paris holds her face in shock. They wanna make an example to everyone else. This is what happens when you try to escape. Thought it's like the handmaid's tale. Yeah it totally is. Paris calls her parents and tells them she hates the place to their credit. They listened to her except they transfer her to another wilderness. Therapy school this time in washington state. It's an offshoot of the first place owned by the same person. So what's the same. Hell just a different forest. And the counselors know. She escaped cd so they're watching her once again. Paris is determined to escape. And she does. But this time they're ready. The school shuts down local roads. And even the nearest airport peres ultimately caught and sent home back to the waldorf. Yeah but that's what she wanted right. Yes she did and she couldn't be happier to be back in her own. Bed fluffy pillows. Expensive sheets wants to stay here forever. She promises her parents. You'll behave. she'll never sneak out again. But rick and kathy aren't stupid. They've been fooled one too many times. It's midnight march of one thousand. Nine hundred eight pairs fast asleep when she opens her eyes to find. Two burly men standing over her paris bolts upright. What the fuck is going on. One of the guy says you're coming with us. He dangles a pair of handcuffs and ads. We can do it. The easy way or the hard way paris screens. She calls out for her parents. I'm being kidnapped help. But no one comes as she's being dragged out of the apartment. She sees caffeine rick. Just standing there watching turns out there in on it. H- plot twist yeah. Paris wakes in some kind of dorm room wearing a tan jumpsuit. She's not sure where they've taken her. She tries the door but it's locked. She looks out the only window in the room which is also locked and sees a beautiful greenlawn framed by purple mountains and a high chain link. Fence topped with razor wire. There's no way out now. This sounds like juvie not exactly but not far off. She finds a notebook on the little wooden desk. And it says provo canyon school in utah. It's another emotional. Gross school part of what's known as the troubled teen industry but those other schools were like summer camp compared to this place. Paris doesn't have classes most of the time. She sits in a chair facing the wall if she speaks or moves she gets smacked with a ruler. Pairs is terrified to even ask to go to the bathroom. She watches as the staff hits. Her classmates sometimes going as far as to strangle them. Pretty sure that's abuse. Yeah but they claim it's to instill obedience might add more like fear. Paris has to tell her parents about this right. She doesn't in fact it's going to be twenty years before she tells anyone she and her classmates are convinced that no one will believe them. Paris watches as many of the kids break from the abuse and are put on suicide watch but she does her best to stay strong which is really hard. When you're from drugs. Provo forces all of the kids. Take pills. Paris doesn't want to but she has no choice. She has to open her mouth to prove she's swallowed them but our girl is smart. She eventually figures out how to hide the pills in her mouth and when they aren't watching she spits them out and she gets away with it for a while. A few months into her stay at provo is keeping a low profile staying under the radar and out of the way of the staffers. Until she's confronted with pill. She spit out in secretly dropped in the trash. Are these yours a staffer. She denies it but one of the girls points at her and says i saw her do it. Wo- switches get stitches. My girl except it's like that at provo. Everyone is broken in paranoid. Harris is shocked. The biggest guy in the staff grabs her by the arm and marches are down a hallway. He throws her into a small windowless room. There's no bad no desk. Just a bucket and a roll of toilet paper. He orders paris to take off her clothes. She sits on the floor. Make it and shivering. It's utah and late fall. It's cold all she can hear are the screams of classmate in the next cell over. Who how long has she. They're twenty hours freezing scared alone. She says later the one thing that keeps her from losing. Her mind is planning what she'll do when she gets out she's going to be independent. She going to be famous and she's going to do everything in her power to be successful that no one will ever control her again. This is episode one of our four part series paris. Hilton if you enjoyed it. Please subscribe on apple. Podcasts spotify google dot com or wherever. You're listening if you're listening on a smartphone tap or swipe over the cover. Art of this podcast. We'll find some offers from our sponsors by supporting them. You help us offer you this show for free if you like what you're hearing we'd love you to give us a five star rating and leave a review. We'd love to know your thoughts another way to support us as the answer. A short survey at one three dot com slash survey. Wanna listen to even the rich ad free head over to wondering dot com slash p l u s. We use many sources when researching are stories like the hiltons by j randy tara borelli but we especially recommend house of hilton by jerry oppenheimer and the documentary. This is paris directed by alexandra dean. I'm arenas skidmore williams and brooks fron adam. Prince wrote this episode editing by alison. Rhymer our producer is natalie shisha. Our associate producer. Is kate young our audio engineer. Sergio and rica's sound design is by james. Morgan are executive producers. Are stephanie jones marshal. Louis and her non lopez. The story wonder he's new true crime. Podcast the apology line begins with allen bridge posting fliers around new york city asking people to anonymously apologized for their crimes not to god not to the police but to his answering machine. The apology line is available. Early and add free on. Wondering plus allen got dozens of calls from people claiming to be murderers but one stood out ritchie. 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We're out in public urine embarrassment, but I have to tell you I just like really emotional. So. She woke up and then the kids were all gathered around her and her older sister Hayes said I think you got taller last night and then she kind of stood up next to her and stuck her butt out. So it made it look like they were actually the same height was quite cute They all get excited about giving her a gift and I don't know it just. I. Cry my face off. So I'm just wondering if you guys are the same way, my husband's like. Seriously you have mental problems. He says, he's GonNa Cry Really Hard when they off to college and I'm like I don't think so because you never cry and he said I, swear to you I will cry when they go off to college. I cry sometimes when to drop them off at school I I don't know. So anyway I'm just wondering if you guys are the same way. And of dodger I started watching the challenger, the final flight, which is a twenty twenty docu series limited series on that flex revolving around the tragic nine, hundred, eighty, six incident involving Nostra's stace shuttle Challenger I remember it like it was yesterday the whole day the day the Challenger exploded watching it on live television I. Remember watching the newscast for in well into the evening watching the footage over and over and over again on television I remember the reaction of the adults around me I can just. Remember at all so when you're watching it They're telling you the back story of it, and then they have all of this great eighties music that goes with it and so in the beginning episode. They start showing you the shuttle and how everybody was so excited about the space program and they have coming to America by Neil Diamond. Plane. And you really forget like how great that song is, and then you find yourself wanting to like stand up and punch a wall and kick the sky. So the challenge of the final flight documents this tragedy, it was an unprecedented event that really rocked the nation and this was a time where everybody would tune in to watch a shuttle launch and not wait for an update on like Ilan, mosques twitter account, which is what we have. Now this was like eight big time deal. It was like an emotionally engaging event that the whole country would gather around together. We were so excited about this idea of us taking over space. So on January twenty, eighth nineteen, eighty-six, the space shuttle Challenger launched an only after sixty seconds sixty seconds the boosters exploded bringing death to the seven passengers on board it was marked a major malfunction a catastrophic event. Prior to the tragic event, the selling point of the scheduled launch was that NASA had appointed a non astronaut on the mission. If you could imagine that today, it was this beautiful teacher named Christa. McAuliffe which was really big news across the country. She was an a teacher from Concord New Hampshire. And from a NASA standpoint, this was a PR move that would have had reverberations all over the country. There were plans for her to provide a lesson to children from space space had become such an entertainment business as much as a scientific development from a corporate standpoint NASA needed to keep public interest peaked. So KRISTA was selected for more than eleven, thousand applicants to participate in this NASA teacher and space project and was scheduled to become as I mentioned the first teacher in space. So as a member of Mission S. T. S fifty, one l., she was planning to conduct experiments teach two lessons from the Challenger. So there we are sixty seconds everyone in the country is gathered around the television. They even brought televisions into the classrooms which. I can't even begin to tell you that never happened and so every kid's classroom was watching this live. And you're watching it, and then all sun explodes and children you're like, wait what just happened. And then the realization kicks in and then everyone starts crying it was it was awful. So after her death schools and scholarships were named in her honor and in two thousand four, she was post humorously awarded the Congressional Space Medal of honor. So this series delves into the reason that this became a catastrophic event and change the way that NASA operated forever, it presents murky governance structures arrogance misplaced oversight pressure to stick to a schedule to maintain government budgets. So this Docu series examines how eight corporate approach can unwind such disres- guard to human lives how warnings can be moved from desk to desk and the probable issue becomes a recognized silence. This is a really great ceres and if you're looking for something to watch with the person that you live with and they tend to be more into like. Tax Stuff. This is right up your alley because you've got the emotional story about each astronaut. You see you see the US with their family members you get to hear what they were doing in the period up until the launch they actually went into a quarantine I just think that you will find it really fascinating. So Limited series on Netflix, it's called Challenger the final flight. This episode you're GonNa. CHANCE YOU'RE GONNA get a chance to listen to an NFL rookie. Bryden Foco from hard knocks on HBO. He plays for the Los Angeles chargers. He was a huge star at Lsu and he's GonNa talk about what it is like to be on the show hard knocks and what it's been like to train during Kovin. And a little bit about his Polynesian. Culture. Because in one of the episodes, the season he does this great danced that is very specific does culture and it kind of was a great moment on the show. But if you are somebody who loves football, YOU'RE GOING to get a window into what it's like to become a go from a college player to an NFL player, and also what it's been like for these NFL football teams during this Cova period and what their what their schedule is like what they're doing to protect the players kind of a really great insight into behind the scenes of football right now. Now, the show hard knocks as I've mentioned before it is an eighteen time emmy award winning series. This season follows head coaches, Anthony Lynn of the La chargers and Sean mcvay of the Rams as they lead mix of veterans, free agent acquisitions, and rising stars on both both sides of the ball. So it's a great show because you are going behind the scenes football to learn the dynamics. And then I watched. This is Paris on Youtube? which is her documentary parasols documentary and I have to tell you first of all, it's free. So go on your youtube it's free. It's one of those things that you're gonNA. Sit and think about for a while this goes behind the scenes of her life. It has archival footage of her as a child. She opens up about this experience that she had this wilderness camp in. UTAH. And the emotional and physical damages that have come from it. You see moments with her parents or her mother and her sister that are really raw. And I think you really get a window into this woman's life in a way that you've never seen. I just really liked to get into the heart of someone's story. And I am less interested especially as I get older to see the imagery like someone's beautiful snapshots on their instagram feed because it's really just a highlight reel of someone's life I'm more interested in like what is your backstory and what is your real lifelike and who are you as a person And if you're like me, you're GonNa love this documentary because she really does do that. But as you'll hear my interview with Gibson John's who also watched it I think that there's probably way more to the story that we're not getting and so if you have not watched it yet, you'll kind of be interested to hear some of the observations. If you have watched it I'm eager to hear what you think as well. So please let me know what you thought about. The series especially after we've watched it. So this is jam packed episode jam-packed and I'm hoping that you're going to take some time. This week. To just let yourself watch some television and escape into someone else's world. It's Ok you deserve it all of us deserve it, and it's important to continue to be curious people and to learn about the way other people live because it us. More interesting, more thoughtful more. And we all just need a break. So I hope you will join me in escaping into some of these great stories. So here we go. Walk to the show. Thank you. Blessed to be here pre shaped by aggregate. So what is it like to go from a college player to a pro player in training camp? I mean, what's is it just a totally different world? You know it's it's different of course but I think I was very fortunate to go to a school like Lsu were you know they prepare us very will to compete at a high level especially every day so I feel like I was ready for my first time. You know going out to training camp this past month and felt like I had my own. So, what is the experience like having all these cameras follow you? You already have the pressure of a training NFL trading camp. Did the cameras. Did you get used to it after while? Did you feel like people were. A. Little Bit more anxiety ridden with the cameras there. You know they. They told us at first. Hey, we're GONNA do this. This is how it's going to go down just be yourself be normal you know hard knocks thing we had cameras in every meeting room everywhere you went there was a camera Mike crew and so it was very easy. You know the first time it's like you know there's this big Mike following you around practice and and a camera that's like you know right there but you're supposed to act like it's out there and then You just get used to it as it goes on but it was it was very cool to have them around for sure. So what is it like in terms of being player and learning plays and getting used to the coaching staff? How hard is it to get acclimated to a totally different program? Let alone a program that's filled with returning players who have years and years of experience above you. It you know it's very different. It's always a new challenge that arises whenever you have to get into a new program and you have to get into a new atmosphere that you're not comfortable with I got to La I got with the chargers and learning the position learning nose tackle learning defensive tackle has elevated my game because you know what? It's always a new system something that I wasn't you said Lsu but now that I have learned the system, all I do is plan to thrive in it and just get better every day. So, there. Is there. One particular thing that you? What's the one thing that you had not expected in training camp? That you experienced. Great Question You know the one thing I didn't expect was how Fast. The game was when I got here, it was all the best had told me about it and the coaches told us about it like a when this thing goes the games you know it gets a little faster and. You know the guys are lot Salah fashion than what you're used to in college. So I didn't expect that and then we got from I being practices and and that was one thing that really stood out to me. That was very different that I didn't expect you know. What has been your journey to plane pro lake to talk to me a little bit about how you found yourself as a pro player or training to be a pro player. Question you know I've always wanted to plan the NFL. Since I was a kid You know, of course, everybody has dreams to be a first round draft. Pick to you know have the the ultimate. Dream achievements of being at the highest level at every stage of football in your life whether it's High-school College. NFL. unfortunately, it doesn't work out like that. Only one percent of high school players that end up making it's a college end up making its NFL and so I can get your foot in the door how you get your foot in the door and then ultimately it's not. How you get there it's what you do when you get there and you know for me. That's been the biggest thing Since I was a kid was just being able to get my foot in the door to the national football league and then taking advantage of it and I got here The journey has been awesome. It's been a grind football and not just football but sports in general You know we were all dedicated to his game. We do it for the love of it It's never about the money and so you know to me just waking up. Going out there working out one of meetings going to practice There is no doubt that it's it's very time managing and it's grinder, but I love it. It's my job now and I can't be any more blacks to have a job that I love doing. How important has it been to have some of these returning legacy players explain to you how important it is to surround yourself by people who will protect you financially emotionally the. I think people think of this big paycheck for a football player and they live this Kush life but the great thing about the show is exposing how? Many people sometimes. These football players are responsible for and how that weighs heavily on their emotional. Base and and and how the anxiety of getting injured might affect that like I'm responsible for all these people and that's such an awesome responsibility. Yeah No, it's. It's very different and unique because you know sometimes when people think of football players and I think the game, they just think of all these guys are making millions and and this this. But at the end of the day I don't think people realize how much not only work goes into a bit how much sacrifice and then on top of that Having to to take the next steps financially is very important because a lot of people know that a lot of players when they're done playing football go broke and it's sad but that's the way it is and That's the vulnerability of of being the National Football League in. It's not talked about a lot and some great veterans you're on the chargers