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"professor lindsey" Discussed on NPR Politics Podcast

NPR Politics Podcast

07:30 min | 1 year ago

"professor lindsey" Discussed on NPR Politics Podcast

"Covered demographics and culture. And i'm carrie. Johnson the national justice correspondent and we have a special episode today. This is the docket our ongoing series where we look at the big legal questions of the day. Today we're talking about something very much in the news we're talking about vaccine mandates as yet another wave of cove in nineteen spreads throughout the us. We've seen businesses cities and parts of the federal government begin to require proof of vaccination and with that comes a debate over not just the ethics of vaccination but also legality whether it's legal to require vaccination to do any number of things like get a job or go to a sporting event or a restaurant and talk about this. We have legal expert. Carrie johnson but also another expert. Who've you brought kerry. Yeah we have law. Professor lindsey widely from american university. Here with us. Today she directs the health law and policy program there. Hi professor wiley. Thanks for inviting you to join you. Oh we're happy to have you. And i guess the best place to start is with kind of a simple question isn't legal to require. Vaccinations for cove in nineteen. I think there may be a very old supreme court case about this from all the way back to nineteen o five. There is an that decision jacobson. Be massachusetts has gotten a lot of attention over the last A year and a half or so. It's actually a decision that was very relevant to the kinds of social distancing measures and business restrictions. That were used a four. we had A a widespread availability for a safe effective vaccine the case itself was about a vaccination mandate this case actually involved a pastor who had immigrated from sweden and i think he had a bad reaction to a vaccine years before right so in the early nineteen hundreds smallpox outbreaks were fairly frequent and many people had been vaccinated earlier. You know as children but needed to be reback stated as their immunity wayne so henning jacobson was one of those people. The the state of massachusetts passed a law that gave authority to local boards of health to make a decision at any given moment in response to an outbreak that smallpox vaccination should be mandatory for all residents of their local area. If in the opinion of the medical experts who were serving on the board it was necessary to protect the public health so the city of cambridge made that determination. They then you know went through the effort of outreach to get get everyone vaccinated. When they came to henning jacobson. he objected. Now he happened to be a pastor but in the litigation he did not raise religious liberty. And that's the cause in nineteen o five. The supreme court had not yet applied the first amendment to state governments. And so it just wasn't an option on the table for him at that time instead he argued that vaccines are ineffective. He argued that they don't prevent transmission and he argued that they were harmful Sound familiar the f. The court described those arguments as not seeking a medical exemption but rather reciting the alternative views. that differ from medical consensus and that those arguments did not warrant an exemption extension from the requirement to be vaccinated so Jacobson was actually The subject of a criminal enforcement action the city initiated proceedings in criminal court to collect the penalty It was five dollars which Just as gorsuch recently pointed out He looked it up So he thought it was important and said it was about one hundred forty dollars By today that's real money. Yeah that's real money In that criminal proceeding by the state back was when jacobson raised his arguments against vaccination. There was some indication i believe. Historians have found that he was being supported by active anti vaccination groups. At the time we tend to think of antibac- saination something recent but it has been a lot around as long as vaccination been around. It seems like the overarching theme from most of the jurisprudence from nineteen o five has been a public safety and public health sometimes will prevail over individual desires in and give way to the common good. Am i getting the overall stream of legal decisions right there. That's exactly right Our individual rights under the constitution are not absolute bay can be counterbalanced by pressing public health or public safety needs and that's true in a pandemic as it is in in routine times as well that old case we just discussed jacobson. V massachusetts talked about the power of state. But it's this analysis different when it comes to the federal government we haven't seen president biden issue a nationwide mandate but is it law or politics. That's causing some reluctance there. I think it's a combination of the two. Actually there are different constraints not based on individual rights but based on federalism and also separation of power. What i do think we were likely to see is some incentives An and conditions on things like participation in medicare for hospitals and maybe skilled nursing facilities nursing homes That's very different from the kinds of mandates that were seeing employers adopts and that we're seeing at least a couple of local jurisdictions consider for patrons at certain businesses and speaking of employers. What you were just talking about private companies have really been in a big way leading the charge here on requiring vaccines and. I'm wondering if you can tell us about some history here. The the covent vaccine isn't the first or only vaccine that businesses have required for their employees. Am i right on that note. That's correct although we typically seen those requirements limited to certain sectors where the risk of transmission is higher or where the employees are working with vulnerable populations and so for example very common for healthcare employers to require flu shots and a whole host of other shots as a measure to protect patients but also to some extent to protect health workers themselves so for example many require on hepatitis. Vaccinations in addition to flu shots. All kind of Childhood vaccines that we tend to get as a condition of attending school the other Kind of common requirement applied to adults who are over. The age of eighteen has been university requirements college Attendance requirements college students in many states are required by law. Not just by the option of the college to get a meningitis vaccine. Because of a higher incidence of of meningitis outbreaks in kind of congregate setting on on campuses. And we've seen these same groups sort of lead the charge on vaccination requirements for cova. Did that makes sense because some of the same concerns. Apply to kobe as apply to flu or meningitis. And also because these are entities employers universities who already have the basic infrastructure in place to impose these kinds of requirements..

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"professor lindsey" Discussed on Coronavirus Daily

Coronavirus Daily

03:45 min | 2 years ago

"professor lindsey" Discussed on Coronavirus Daily

"This is considered this from NPR. So there's this law from nineteen, forty four called the Public Health Service Act. Basically it gives the CDC certain powers to prevent disease from spreading particularly from state to state the law says, it lists different examples such as inspection, negation, disinfections, annotation, pest extermination. So the destruction of animals that's Aaron say Brown of Georgia State University and what the law doesn't say is anything about housing or But that's exactly what the trump administration is trying to use it for got some breaking news on the infection moratorium Diana Scott details the Anna. The administration issued an order this week that takes effect today to stop evictions nationwide for some people. But it's interesting how they're able to do this through an executive order. They're actually using an order from the CDC which is saying that is. No longer healthy to evict to anyone from residential property and under the legal justification for this is that nineteen forty, four law the administration says evictions could lead to more spread of the corona virus if you can take steps to prevent animals or other types of you know fleas from spreading infectious disease than could you also take some steps to prevent people from being forced to crowd? So with addictions on the rise and Congress and the White House so far unable to agree on any more economic relief. This is where the federal responses landed. But the thing about the CDC's order is that it's definitely GonNa face challenges in the courts those decisions either way whether a cold it or strike it down are GonNa have really big implications for the federal role in the pandemic response going forward law professor Lindsey Wiley of American University says one of those implications could be this if you get a decision upholding this order. That could bolden a future Biden administration issue and national mask mandate. Or. If a judge strikes the order down the federal government and whoever's in the White House might have less power to take steps that could keep the virus from spreading. Still. This order does have addictions on pause in a lot of places while people figure out what exactly it means. Heather Panesar. Didn't even know about the order until she heard about it from one of our reporters this week. Oh Wow. Oh my God that is awesome. Heather is disabled. She lives in Houston with her four year old son. Partner lost his job in the pandemic. She got behind on rent and her landlord filed to Victor. Dope Two's pretty relieved to hear about the CDC order. There's just been so much stuff on stuff on stuff like feel like it's piling on top of me. and honestly, I don't know just because somebody got like all these big boulders and just lifted him up.

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"professor lindsey" Discussed on KSFO-AM

KSFO-AM

06:35 min | 2 years ago

"professor lindsey" Discussed on KSFO-AM

"I was there, I guess. Big boom! Drop the mic moment. Oh, you blew my mind, man. That really makes you stop and think if you're really, really stupid. Ah blah, blah ba. Yes, Some people confuse having thoughts for having intelligence they're looking to see and I'm reading from. I think it's this woman's papers. Seeing the interconnectedness between indigenous and white stream knowledge of mathematics. I choose the term white stream instead of European American to highlight the role of global white supremacy and the enterprise of mathematics education. Doll, right? Dr. Gutierrez also says the idea that math Khun solve anything is a fallacy. She asks why math values logic over intuition and ask students to use logic instead of intuition, because it's way better, too, is why You know, not not any intuition involved in mathematics. How much of my paycheck do I need to put aside to pay my electric bill? Let me use my intuition says a crazy person for the love of heaven. The fact that this stuff even gets an airing and then my, my all my mater, which is admittedly fallen on embarrassing times, the University of Illinois would employ of a crazy person. And a racist like this. What do you do? Unemployment, racist to U of I The paper offer my my gear. The paper offers specific implications for teaching and learning and brings into conversation. Ideas from ethno mathematics sets have been thing that Professor Lindsey's been complaining about long time. This whole ethno mathematics idea that different ethnicities have different mathematics and expecting the same answers out of somebody of a different ethnicity as well. It's just your white male European. It's oppressive. It's oppressive. Post. I shouldn't try that Mike Kelt class in college that I had to drop. You're oppressing me. They're bringing in post colonial theory, aesthetics, biology and indigenous knowledge. In order to probably propose a new vision for practicing mathematics. What I call mathematics with an exit the end Ah, Mathematics includes in math, post colonial theory and biology. How are post colonial theory and biology fitting into a math equation? Well, they're not unless you're a crazy person like an actually identifiably not so human being Yeah, I was just reading about the Jonestown cult the other day for reasons that I won't get into, But E was contemplating the notion of someone Convincing themselves. Talking themselves into mental illness, talking themselves into a behavior that is so clearly Indefensible, illogical and self destructive and how that happens. This woman is a particular brand of crazy. I think her neurological function is probably okay. But she has talked herself into Untidy eah, that makes no sense whatsoever. And then to defend it. You've got to get crazier and crazier. I just This is a weird phenomenon. You know religious, whether it's religious cultists or racist like this gal or whatever. I just don't know you get there. And, as James Lindsay says, in some of his podcasts and YouTube videos and stuff like that, if we can't have shared agreement on things like physics and math. Woman. There's really no hope for shared agreement on you know, a variety of things about men and women and the races and all these different things where there are gray areas. Well in as we discussed earlier. I don't know what this Babe's deal is. Honestly, I have no idea. But this game But I will I will ease do not use gendered language took to address everyone. Sorry, jumbo mathematics with an X. But the idea that the only thing that is real is what the party says Israel there is no objective fact. You cannot make an appeal to natural rights or or even math. If the party tells you this is it, This is it. That's the mark of totalitarian history regimes all through history, including right now. In North Korea. If Kim Jeong Eun tells you two plus two is five or seven or 150 you say Yes, sir. It is. The Enlightenment ended superstition and and and ah, and racism to a large extent as a motivating force in societies. You know I was looking through. It didn't end obvious immediately, obviously, but it started the process of listen, There's no rational reason to believe a black man is inferior to the white man. Intuition based thinking is what led to racism in the first place, right and lynchings and oh, my God! I just I can't believe this is getting any credence in the fact that it's being labeled as anti racism is especially insidious. Intuition, not facts. That's how you know whether that young black man actually raped that right. Well, that white woman Yeah, we tried. That is a country But how about being a professor at the University of Illinois or wherever you're doing it because it happens all over the country. And you've got a job. You can't get fired from pays a good salary and a pension and health care and everything like that. And you can just think up any of the craziest crap. It can't be too crazy. And you can still keep your job And you just write papers Just making us just say it making s up. What a weird job. Not only that. I just imagine the craziest thing I could think of. And then just write a paper about well, she's more likely to get tenure and get hired than somebody who teaches really math. In these crazy times. Dogs can actually talk. It's we that can't talk. We people that can't talk. And then I just Forman idea around that right along paper. Let's go for a job. I don't think that's true. Doesn't care obviously will end up in the gulag. It's actually closer. I could make a better argument for that. Then I can for the fact that two plus two doesn't equal four Leo Baxter is trying to speak. I haven't talked about this on the air, so it is he telling you to do things. Is he telling you to hurt anyone? It's funny. You should ask around that next. Strong and getting When you're.

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"professor lindsey" Discussed on KSFO-AM

KSFO-AM

08:53 min | 2 years ago

"professor lindsey" Discussed on KSFO-AM

"Breaks the donkey Bray is an a person weighs in first this piece of breaking news so I I was alerted to this video that shows a praying mantis just absolutely devastating a murder Hornet I mean this is this is the breaking heartbreaking praying mantises can take out murder this changes everything I'm I'm going long on praying mantises yeah thing breeding them now the more important breaking news a member of the U. S. navy who serves as one of president trump's personal valets has tested positive for corona raising concerns about the president's exposure to the virus are you would assume personable a is a and is he ever within sixty to the present I don't actually know that but I don't either he has he ever speak mostly on the president I would assume he's in the same room writing mostly I wouldn't think anybody in the navy should speak mostly on the the commander in chief speaking moist lately have tried to avoid that if you can but that be something I always thought the what would make this story even even more exciting is the president got it tell you what I was with somebody the other day and we may or may not have been socially distancing since there are practically no cases where I live and the sun was it precisely the right level in the the late afternoon that my one friend who was talking you could see all of the droplets coming out of his mouth is he smoking mostly that's exactly what he was doing and I don't think it was any more moist Lee than anybody else and it was rather shocking the amount of you know little tiny droplets of saliva that spray out of your mouth as you speak speaking voice yes Mr prime minister so do you did you say to him say it don't spray it did you try that no I did not but we want the news about the weather nor did I go with that stratagem hi I just thought it was interesting and somewhat revealing yeah about how diseases get spread it I went in the wisdom of of cute little Justin Trudeau I think one of the things we're gonna find out of the end is practically everybody got it it's one of the most easy to catch things in the history of the world it did today bothers all hardly anybody the people it does bother can kill you like in five days that's why it's so scary but practically everybody got there's almost nothing you can do to keep from getting it so the idea of doing this or that are close and that doesn't make any difference we're all going to we all got it anyway he had everything open to the same number of people to comment I don't know there are there are some and we're going to do something completely on covert related here but what are you gonna do died there number of scientists and researchers believe that there is a genetic the other factor that makes you get the severe case if you have the gene X. thirty two eighty it could kill you if you have X. thirty two baby or whatever it doesn't has to do with you know the proteins in your whatever the herring and and who knows I wish we knew that now that so many question marks we're talking earlier about ideology and you know how what if you get so crazy in your tribe it can lead down the road to terror the totalitarianism do we do we still have that clip with George W. bush attempt they could say to a Dallas area not an easy word it's it's no it's not it's funny though anyway we got this note a few days ago and I realize it seems a little out of place because college campuses around the country are closed and not soon to open again but I thought it was just such a beautiful illustration of the point and this is from Michael who is the current president of the Chico state California University Chico state college Republicans and he he says last November as I'm sure you're all aware and I do remember this the Chico state Republicans were tabling on campus promoting a speaking event we spent months and thousands of dollars organizing during the week of our event some students and faculty decide to protest us as they have a constitutional right to do they do not however have the right to try and shut down or event in the manner they attempted that we can campus I was personally battered by multiple students sexually assaulted by another had my property destroyed right in front of my eyes as well as the eyes of the campus administration and faculty promoted this behavior in their classrooms and some issuing emails to students calling for them to start attacking us one faculty member in particular professor Lindsey Briggs actually took to defaming our organization in an email the center center this blatant call to suppress our first amendment rights to be on campus is not the first or last incident a professor Briggs targeting conservative students on campus she used her platform is a professor on campus to come to the aid of the students that had battered the writer Mike as well as others that were seen on viral videos exposing their genitals and rubbing them on people of protests you this week professor Briggs identifies herself as a proud member of the terrorist organization known as antifa this organization of course well known well we view we know what we talk about him all the time Mike but so the California faculty association at Chico state this is the union decided to get involved in the beatings sexual assault and destruction of property on the side of the students that were breaking the law in committing the assaults well that fits in pretty good what we were talking about earlier on and and and that writer I should because name back up again and writing in the American conservative he believes were the closest to told how totalitarian state than we've ever been because we have broken down into these camps and if one side gets power and and people have this mindset of you know I don't agree with this but it's my side which right which seems to be where we are because there's no way a college professor it intellectually agrees with stopping free speech no I I disagree I think they absolutely do anything yes absolutely that's that's one of the core principles of your antifa types is your speech is hate speech or not I think that I would say is there's no way I wouldn't think the college professor intellectually agrees with antifa but feels like well they're on our side so in this case I can excuse it because it's under the umbrella of my side okay I was confused because the college professor is in anti if I use an antique okay yeah I thought was just supporting but as I can remember how old the member of antifa right on the campus faculty association joined with the associated students they boast both worked on and passed resolutions condemning the Republican party's races and accusing them of promoting white supremacist ideas more than clearly goes a step further to where in your own mind you E. U. O. O. race what you believe well you have your militant core that truly believes they're low the some ideology and then you have your folks who kind of like hearing it and then do you get your masses here useful idiots who just don't know to resist it or don't have the guts to resist it and they kind of sort of like it so they vote for it we're supporting something and being a member of it pretty thin lines anyway right right yeah yeah I agree R. N. and he goes on to point out that these associations are mandatory dues supported like the students association so conservative college kids are forced to financially support an association that will fully physically attacks them sexually assaults them destroys the property and then the faculty of the university sides with the criminals in the NT four people you can you hear us talking about how diseased universities are and you think well they're doing a talk show they're trying to make it exciting the rest of it I am telling you is a guy who's raised three kids now who are either just done with college or in the middle of it it is insane what's happening especially in your blue states it's dangerous anyway Mike thanks for the note well we're on your side and please stay in touch and you know if there's anything we can do to to shed a little light and bring a little attention I tell you what this professor Lindsey Briggs is a dangerous lunatic in the idea of the cheese employed on campus is just it's it's scary it's it's disappointing you know we haven't gosh you know what I didn't pay off the plumber okay flush during the Supreme Court hearing I can they go ahead when.

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"professor lindsey" Discussed on KCRW

KCRW

02:25 min | 2 years ago

"professor lindsey" Discussed on KCRW

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