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18x World Champion MMA & Kickboxing Coach Trevor Wittman | Dont Let People Hold You Back

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50:03 min | 1 year ago

18x World Champion MMA & Kickboxing Coach Trevor Wittman | Dont Let People Hold You Back

"They're on today's show. We're interviewing a man who has coached fighters to eighteen combined world champion that possible in the Ama Sport Catwalk Kavak seeing wow professional boxing unbelievable and he shares with us why we shouldn't let other people hold us back my man that's that's powerful that's par for knowledge and he also talked about how to fight through your fears he also talks to us about it provides the inside look into the world of boxing which I couldn't get into into the AMA thing which I couldn't get into the kick even walks us into violent fighting sports that I wasn't qualified to be in. I don't know because they could. You'd have a head gear up for your head. Shows don't need liberty reiter to introduce this show this show too may eight kids co created by two different women thirteen multi million dollar businesses this ladies and Gentlemen Welcome to Thrive Time Shaw you talk the Yes yes yes and yes thrive nation. Welcome back twitter exciting edition of the time show on your radio and podcast. Ask Download and another edition of your audio Joe of Mojo that you go to show welcome back to the time show. It's I'm so glad to be back and I'm so excited about our. I guess today because I have a big vision dream. I want to cast for Trevor so I'm just telling you when we're ready for that. This is going to be the big. Let me not up today's guest okay. This guy has he's a he's a coach. He's he's coached. MMA kickboxing and boxing people to it to a championship okay so boxers I kick boxers intimate professionals. He's coached so he has at least three World Champions Championship his credit for coaching the athlete but he's done it eighteen eight times wow Z. That might be a world record Trevor Wittman. Welcome onto the thrive time show how are you. I am wonderful. Thank you for Adamy. I really appreciate it. Hey Brian. I'm a little bit scared of you because of your sparring skills here I'm just GONNA I'll try to offend you. Don't get drop kicked from Denver but here we go. How did you get here? I mean you you are now this massive success eighteen time world champion. Where did it start? What what was it like growing up for you? In Connecticut I well. I I traveled a lot. I moved to Connecticut when I was twelve years old. My Dad was the store opener for Home Depot. So a lot of traveling in my early life would over lots of bullying. I was bullied a lot and so I started martial arts and and I always love boxing me and my father would watch boxing and I was always intrigued and howling guys did talk stuff about each other's minds and then go and and hung each other other after it was over and it just intrigues me and being bullied I I started in martial arts and would start boxing when I was age thirteen. Did you take to the technical aspects of boxing. The skilled are pretty quickly or was it hard for you to gain you guys. I mean just watching Z. When you watch a pro boxer sorry I mean it is ridiculous how coordinated and how skilled they are? I mean did it. Take you to kind of get comfortable. Or How long did it take you before. You felt like you were getting your game together. Other you know is very unique because thirty in martial arts of karate it was all technique cantatas and and practicing here moves over and over and I did some point finding prior to do in boxing and I got a phony story. I was actually went into my buddy boxing gym. I was watching him. So far in the coach looked over me and ask me if I wanted to do some boxing maybe do some sparring and I told him Yeah I do karate and maybe at some point and he sends school. Take this wave home and have your your parents sign it so I took the waiver home. Ask My parents assigned it. My Dad refused to sign it. So you know being the wild on kid I was I I signed the waiver my first experience in the in the ring I got in there thinking I was very talented and good to Soroti guys'll. ooh I remember last week about thirty seconds and I was looking through the year whole the headgear Negoti man the guy he just brought it to be and UH. I don't know if you've ever seen something about Mary but the time when he brings Brett farve leave steps out the door and he's trying that would be walking home then because everything is coming up and that I'm trying to the car went by again but you know when it comes to boxing just true war like you go in there and under the beginning. There's not much like naked. It's it's really you know by down. You're not sweating big funches and I didn't go back to the gym for about a month I ended up feeling sorry for myself and I went back and then my father found out I was doing boxing's as he's seen in the newspaper that I won the regionals and I was doing this all behind his back and he ended up becoming a big fan of what I was doing. Push me hard but Kinda funny story I I kind of crossed the line a little bit started my boxing for tip number. One sign your own waiver number one note do that. Oh aw aw but okay I'm sorry Sunday. Take non tips and turn them into tips. That's I lost mega back that take back tip kids. Don't do that. This just end all right so my next week's Gosh here for Trevor. Is You got to be very good so how so long to get some traction where you fifteen eighteen twenty two. How old were you when you started to just don't show I I've often thirteen to seventeen and I took a year off after Cadad- full-scale hundred high eighties and talk about China very very good record? I was a very talented kid and I was and I called it the three months I'd go in and train to three months and had a whole bunch of fights to back when I was bouncing I'm forty three now. we would fight three times a day and turn style Al and then I play three months off so lack the consistency but man I was super talented and I felt like I was growing as a fighter but my real traction and my love for the sport is when I was injured I actually got cokes and found out what my real passion was was giving back and I never got emotional when I wanNA fight but every time on my fighters would win it would bring a tear to my and bent finding out that helping people get to their goals. I wanted to do so how many you've had eighteen fighters. You've had a chance to coach into a world champion Championship there could you maybe share the names of some of these folks for the folks out there. Maybe there's a name that some of our listeners would know or some of the names of fighters that you've coach throughout your long career. Yes I in boxing Verno Phil upside. JC condello Kickboxing Bang Moyes is Wayne Ben Ludwig in USD was Rashad Evans I had a chance with the to work George here Shane Karnal is one of my champions rose nominee but the list goes on and I've been in anime for probably the last twelve years and I've really fell in love with the full aspect of fighting because there's so many different ways that can go a trevor okay. You're fighting now. You're seventeen. Take a year off. When did you start becoming a coach and kind of monetize? How did that transition happen? I mean you just saw buddy in the in the gym him he said Dude. You're not doing that right. I mean how did you make that transition and then when did you start to monetize that how did that look so so when I moved to Colorado and I was actually GonNa turn pro and I was injured inspiring and I had a long and seeing a doctor told me I shouldn't box the more so I didn't really listen to glad I went to the same thing and then you know now. I'm an older kids on you know taking advice from my parents asking what they thought they were just totally against it and it was something I dreamed that it was my passion is what I upset and I was seeing the counselor at the at the time she goes well. Why don't you become a manager? Why don't you do something in the sport so I decided to pick up some midst and star holding four other athletes that I that I was training with and I just fell in love awesome? It's again that it was probably the biggest down part of my life because again this is something I look forward to for so long and and then you know again I found a new world so I always tell you know stayed in that position for a short period of time of the depression of it but cozine brought me right back out well. That's great you were given limits. He just turned him in made eliminate. I love that so. How did they work? So you pick up some minutes. Got Your buddy out there and he's sparring with your hit. Your mates match. I'm not sure exactly the terminology but all of a sudden when you're done you look at him and said that'll be thirty five dollars. Please and we know how did you how did you go from just kind of helping buddies out to here's a bill or you want to pay me or the effort I mean how did that how that work so actually started a a little gym in my basement and I started doing it for probably about six months and I was coaching amateurs taking into amateur events so we're competing in amateur level and then there was a fighter named Linda Phillips who came into my Gmi now opened a gym in and rented a place and he was former world champion came to you Jim. I mean I remember the first day you've been there. I was star struck a high level boxer Sir and about two or three days after he's in the gym he asked me to hit minutes with them and and then he comes into my office and he goes. Hey Hey Are you ready to go to up to Washington and I said why do you think you're going to be my coach and my first experience as a professional coach coach or on the espn Friday night fights main event. why Dr I'll get it? I got interviewed by Teddy at me nervous. I'm stuttering are funny the experience I kind of laugh at it now one of the funniest parts about it is at Burnham getting ready to walk out in the the TV cameras turn on and we're getting ready to do our walks and any turns around and looks at me like chatterbox and he looks at me and he goes well. You do good at it. I'll never forget that he told the coach is going to be good at a distraction I in that first year and it was it was just a good process started young and thirty win the world champion as a coach really built my belief in in what I was doing what I could do for other. I know I am notorious for doing this there and if you you don't like this question I and you hang up. That'll be my code. You didn't like the question okay but the I have some sound effects here that I've queued up without Trevor's permission Justin Rin our mutual friend introduced us and so I said Justin. Do you think it's okay if I put microphones all over his office without asking for the next few months in preparation sure and he says absolutely not and I said okay so I've got some audio here of what I think was his training session today and that privilege for you explain to me if this is not your actual audit I might have the wrong filed you might have I would like for you to explain to me what you actually do in your training sessions. Let me cue it up real quick. This is what I believe. We Audio of Trevor Coaching Athlete as recently as yesterday so let me cue queued up here. This is where he's going to get there. It is now this might be Mike Tyson's punch out doc or it could be trevor okay. I played Mike Tyson's punch out. The video game played that game yeah yeah so that was actually we're fighting a pseudo pocketing. Yes yes yes. Oh Gosh maybe you were able to get that well. Let me see could the next Toda says here. We go get this one right here. You who's this I think he said yard opponents yes he. He does like boxing my goodness okay. I have one more audio clip in justice but he might video game. That's pretty good style justin ran. He said he said listen. I met just because he was on the Joe Rogan podcast and I was crazy enough to reach out just now he's spoken in her conferences Yada Yada Justin ranby. He's he's sort of a big deal. This is the audio injustice said do not do avenue. Whatever you do do not play this sound clip while you're interviewing trevor to which I said anyway? Let me cue it up. Let the out of this is. This is what just promised to have people said. Please promise you won't play this and I said I can't say that so here we go. This is like listening to try to chase this little now. This is Trevor Wittman coaching his client early this morning Jason Chicken boys embarrassing because I said so and second because chicken Jason is how we always used to train any old catch state you can catch greased lightning ready rather than she's very mature in case you do the chicken chasing method or talk to us. What is your what are your coaching sessions? Look like so so Mitt myth from Iraqi they big inspiration and hey if chickens can catch a chicken you gotta Ask Asleep at Jefferson ran about this rampage Jackson on season ten when I back on the ultimate fighter season ten jeff and Ren was on that season when I met him and rampage play the chickens in our car and we actually got the taste chicken getting the hardest thing ever I those chickens was was not we let him out of the car in Vegas never so hot. You're trying to courtroom so we can get them all up and ah get them. Sent back to wherever you gotta but I'll never forget that have good forward to get chicken and tell us what what show that was. You were onto the listeners out. There aren't familiar with that show that was that was the ultimate fighter season ten. reshot Evans versus rampage Jackson and that's when I met Justin ran was on that this season I had the opportunity to work three ultimate fighters seasons as C. Seventeen Shane Carwin and then also season to agree with Jeff Jeff engaging current soon. You're not playing Mike Tyson's punch out chasing chickens or coaching world class athletes. Tell us about on exports dot com. What is Oh anex sports? Dot Com tonight started as it all started by me. I actually borrowed my mom's sewing machine and started making equipment because all the equipment and that's that's being manufactured at the moment just whether it holding up so I- reverse engineered some mid and they don't have left and right mid switches this is just crazy to me because the left hand and right hand totally different and I got smaller hands so I was always trying to squeeze it hold the midstream flying off so I started making my own Mitts and vitamins to the gym and I have about fifteen coaches at my gym at that time and ten of them wanted mid so sold ten products within probably or a week and they loved them and when I was at different events and locker rooms along with my guys out my network of coaches and brothers in the industry would say where'd you get those and then I ended up becoming about a year behind on making custom agreements for people and I realized that this is a real thing saying that people are needing premium log Whitman in combat sports world trevor growing up boxing was the thing right for me. I'm fifty four years zolder boxing. That's what it was about and then all of a sudden kind of switched over how many years ago bootzack but this a just roared up I mean that's it became very popular now. I'm sure it's a billion dollar business billion dollar industry right. I mean that thing is just crazy. Now right almost almost took boxing to the to the back shelf a little bit almost and now now we have this kickboxing. We have different variations of the and all that the octagon and all that kind of stuff but I've got. I've got something I wanted to talk to you about. It's a business idea business plan and I think it'd be a billion dollar industry and I just wanted to share with you and nobody else because I figure yeah you being on the inside gets week. It'd be on the ground floor. We have about five five hundred thousand and a half million but they're not gonNA break right Ninja Listeners Ninja. Oh Yeah just mute down real quick enough to get physical with you. Guys make a a secret visit okay so I think we're ready now. I here's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking about starting a World League of just donkey kicking in other words it just sits two guys fighting and other doing all the only movie could do is a mule kick or a donkey kick and that's it the whole fight. It's it's called and we have a real cool looking donkey as as a logo urine. Why would you watch it? I mean that is entertaining. No that's that's that's you. I've always thought about doing something to nine ten five and you're only allowed to use the open parliament you get to a little bit of a baby powder on the hand. Whoever was up with the mobile baby powder face wins or excuse me loses 'cause powder from getting a panted? I'm manny we should probably talk after the interviews see what would you do more entertainment. I mean to tell we now come on the audio of your first pilot of kicking challenge. Yeah I tell me this is the right clip ready. Okay sure let me I hope it's the secondhand. Let me see what metal it's it's not. This is a shortage fide possibly be doing with that donkey. It's just a kick kick. Just seems like it's I don't know I uh-huh he's trying to get them for Behi- training so we have people out there that I want to know more about you trevor so if they want to learn more about you is sports the best place or is there a youtube video. You'd encourage them to watch C. You being you all right. I mean that's the best way to reach me and yes you can find a whole bunch of stuff on Youtube and stuff from my career as a coach and also from fighting we WANNA buy stuff stuff from our listeners. WanNa buy stuff from you. What can we what kind of things can we we we? This is an entrepreneurship show so what was one of my books. Some of US want to buy some boxing gloves. What can we buy? You want to buy things from you man right now boxing world is what we sell we're actually working on a UFC right now and then also helping them out with their injury problem and it's all in in training like it's it's crazy to me that seventy percent of injuries are happening in training but that's typically how combat sports has been for a long period of time and if you look at Equipment Whitman say. NFL NFL has about thirty percent injury in practice and but they also have to case studies on equipment and when you look at boxing and there's no equipment and then I feel like that's a big loophole is they just think that boxers kick boxers and mixed martial artists are just tough that Ed hey stuffing but it's mass produced and they really don't have any premium stuff out there to keep these guys healthy when they're preparing for for fights nights but we've released gloves and unfortunately we are sold out again. That's our forth run. that we've done we've sold out every time and now we're releasing a foale training kit which will be coming here in about Oh thirty five days. It'll be making it here to America and Super Bowl staff. It's good to sell all but I always always feel bad for all my customers 'cause they're waiting for the next stuff trevor so many grand navigation so many great business stories or about a guy or Gal all that get involved in a sport or get involved in activity. I mean they get involved. They realized that what's available for them. To purchase is not very good in other words. The guy just started Oakley just sold for over a billion dollars good job he he got on. He realized that the handgrips on the bicycles weren't that good. We started off by making handgrips on the bicycles. So do you see yourself making more money in producing goods for the sport or coaching and having a gym for the sport where do you. Where do you see that by the way that is so awesome coaching? I don't WanNa be with me like I'm GonNa Coach one or two athletes and coaches to right now like again. I love to help people out but I've been for twenty two years now and I've hit every the goal that I wanted to hit the coach so now it's it's it's about reach new goals and Congress you new things so now it's in business and then I'm looking forward to changing the industry and helping industry has really helped me change my life and that is that is a lesson for every every entrepreneur out there or every person that wants been entrepreneur endure find a problem make better fix. It and that's what you've done with your equipment. You had a problem you got your you just started. I love reverse verse engineered. It and I just started making it. I've got two more questions. I want to ask you hear Conor McGregor. I know nothing about UFC. I don't know a a lot about it. It's unbelievable how great shape these athletes are in. I mean it's just I just I I wince when I watch ah can talk to me about the trash talk. That's going on on during the fight because you can't on TV. You can't see if they're still talking trash walter throwing haymakers at each other. I would think that you'd have to dial that down a little bit while you're throwing haymakers discount. Have you ever been up ringside with Conor McGregor. People Still Talk to trash asks Walter admits to the fighting. You know it's everybody's different in Canada McGregor. Yes is both in name off of the trash talk. Keep selling fight and you know. I always say that you can all like like one of my athletes rose down the units who the champion at at style when the most famous female athletes and she did it by saying hey I just want everybody to hug each other and she's she's all about facing your own fears and facing something that scares or and super talented talented and has been known because she's such technician but she is real about the fear and fighting so every athlete has a uniqueness to them. Kinda McGregor definitely talks a lot of stuff but once bed that that door closes all that goes out it then becomes real and you can't fight mad. If I mad you make bad decisions that got to be sharp and and trash talk to me is is that when you're talking about someone else and making stuff up it is true what you're doing. You're making it up. You're trying to either get yourself ready for the fight trying to Piss the guy off and that's all boxing tactics is trying to get in their head and make them think about you all the time and then they lose sleep and lose rests and and you're almost wearing them out without even fight but again once you're in there all that goes out the door and new sharpen focused play. That's why I think you really Mr Your mark with your trash talking ability yeah you could have been the best I could've you could've been I missed my call. You did it Mike Lee you know what that makes. That makes me feel bad saying I feel bad sad sad and but did then part of me. Is I feel I feel free and I feel like this okay now. I WanNa ask you this here trevor. Mike Tyson Jason the famous American boxer now. He's tours around sharing his story. He has a great quote. I love this code. I've uses uses quote often in fact this is well. This is the Mike Tyson quote I ever used. He says everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth yeah. Can you talk to me about that'd be like I might have a plan. You know I'm getting ready to go into the fight. I got myself mentally ready to go. I think I've been watching Mike Tyson's punch out. I've been trained and I've been eating raw eggs because I've been running around chasing chickens. I've been doing with Trevor Wittman saying to do and then I got. It all got the whole thing working. See I'm on fire. I got this this energy and I get good and then all the sudden I could hit one time. I'm out. Can you talk to me about what that feels like to get. Just Bam just hit and how do you keep going. My Man. You know the key is is it's like life. It's like you guys have the businesses that you use it in comedy life. You can have a plan in business but if you are hit with something that you're not used to you. Don't have the experience or you just gotTa work through it and the kids have a plan but you're always GonNa Change and you just gotta be able to just and that's what makes great fighters is how they adjust to adversity the people who go out there not everybody out with the first punch I mean that's that's not a fighter minded. Someone who is gifted with explosion that how do they deal with getting off the candidates and to me that's common day life and it's very easy for you to want to quit in that scenario because you know as you get up it's going to be tougher and tougher and tougher but the key is the the best part about getting knocked down is is being able to get back up and when you go into business orange to a fight knowing that you're gonNA take punches and you're okay with it that that's what you signed up for it. I mean that's the key to that now what would you you've seen a lot of boxers up close and I'm just trying to get the boxers of people would know the fire into some of the names that everyone would not the common man the person who's not really into boxing that would know. Could you share with me triggers. There's some guy that you've seen what box are what. MMA Guy or what you kickboxer was truly the most savage brutal well. I think I'm Mike Tyson but the guy who just was the technique the ferocity the head the whole thing working. What's the box you look at the fighter you look at it and go that is the best I've ever seen like here and Mike Tyson when he was planning on having a video game they just about yourself? He was the key in the prime some of boxing when when heavyweights were great I mean you got questions. Play the Mohammed Ali but again when you go in there with that sense in and can you almost see unstoppable almost like you're some superhuman but again you can you. It's it's so hard to be perfect and any one of the great out there. You're going to see them lose at a certain point and again. It's I love the people who are talented and the one they lose how do they how do they a deal with that and that's where I see. The divider is is if they're able to overcome those scenarios because again one punctual change anything yeah Trevor Klay personally but for what you know of him. How many rounds do you think he would against you? Don't ask I mean how many rounds you think your it does. He think rain on twenty-seven that that's that's world class. I was not a world class back here. It's very talented. I was an amateur but those those those are world class. one thing about has played he was a great talker he knew had it's no no. I'm a I'm a I'm still the record for the long since run backwards backwards for someone to be able to run twenty miles backwards. That's unique in itself. Wow no I met. I met Klay Clark by all my beautiful. No don't man similar names hey to include you guys together. That's a that's a that's a maybe maybe you and I together could stay in the ring with Trevor for a minute. I don't know if I can come on backwards for twenty miles. Maybe twenty four my final uh-huh question for drivers the and then I'll let you wrap it up with whatever you WANNA. Ask Mr Trevor here because I just WanNa make sure the listeners out there have adequate time to exports dot com. They gotta go there but I got one more question. I know you have more questions well when you step into the ring right and this is Kinda I this is the best way I can picture you step in and this is kind of what the music they're playing on fight nights. They're trying to get that hype. Energy goings eating you know they got the lights are going. There's a fog machine their opponents walking wearing the hoodie oh yeah foggy and there's those scorecard ladies running around the room gets Dark Aga- Ladies and gentlemen now wearing the blue the blue shorts from mm-hmm Colorado. It's Trevor Wittman when you come on when you get out there in the crowds energy. You know what I'm saying see. The crowd is our open it up during an excited. I gotta ask you what are you. What are you thinking like? What's going on through your head going? Oh are you saying I'm GonNa Destroy this dude. Are you thinking I mean what what do you have a mantra. Are you saying something I just I have to get it. Let me inside the cranium so I would say when you're in there at that's the best part is because your focus when you're in there the hard apart in the locker room and the whole day prior to the fight giving your hands wrapped up those are the times we always second guessing yourself and that that's the hard apart when you're there you feel the energy in the crowd. I mean you're in it. You're focused you. It's it's a traumatic situation so you have to be home then but it's prior to walk before seeing the crowd. That's where you're lost in thought with yourself and again with all the question of doubt how GonNa win you know. What is that guy been doing different the main? That's where that's where you will learn the beating yourself but once you're in there I mean you again. You feel the energy and you're focused. That's awesome. That's how I felt. When I was in their day? That'd be a little bit of a rush to write forever. Oh yeah the funny part is I talked to my athletes all the time. It's it's you know you feel what the outcome's going to be but once you're done win lose her job once it's over and you're you're asking the next one. There's no rush like it and again. It's a key to life. Face your fears. If you're facing your fears once you're done with it. It wasn't that bad. It's always that scenario. It's not that bad and if you can go and chase life like if you fear it you know they have tinder now or you can swipe swept right but where I grew up you had to go after drills number and if I was scared to ask if the girls number and I was I was afraid to talk to her. I was worried about what she would say and if you see your things in life that's the key to life is if you're chasing and dad's life becomes a fun ride and new usually chasing it scares Ya Okay Trevor My last question you've been in the business of the fighting world around twenty years or so from my calculations right plus or minus run Twenty Years Coaching twenty two and about thirty years in the Game Yeah Thirty Years of Game But coaching the business side of it I would say like really you're making the mining. You're the first twenty twenty some odd years that you're coming to my questions so if you could go back twenty years or twenty two years specifically weekly and have a conversation with yourself as you're beginning the entrepreneur or the business side of the fight world. What would you tell yourself going back? Twenty the years here we go going back. I would say I would say one of the keys is is don't listen. Everybody a Lotta time we had conversations with the people around US people that that love US thought along point. I feel like whoa breakdown what you're really trying to chase what you see what the Cosso painted. He knew what he was going to pay and he was if he were to tell someone who's GonNa pay. They can't see what he's GonNa. Pay When you tell people what you're gonNA do use the comes with. How are you GonNa do that? You know and again when you keep things to yourself and unusual millions is driven the faith that target all the time when you open up the other people you're facing until they can't do it and again you start to live in a mindset of of all that bad chatter and the drifting of how you're not GonNa do it. I always say hey keep it to yourself and to make sure your circle is strong and the people that you're around. They're chasing the same things because a lot of people can hold you back by the time you open up your thoughts to other people and I feel like everybody kind of just living in that world. Hello how and why would you do differently and again. Everybody's unique to self. Everybody likes different flavors of ice cream so find out what it is that you like on. That's it and it's just a destination. Make sure you get there now. That's great great advice great advice see that's great tip one. Can we glue substitute other another tip signing fight agreements as a as a juvenile verse but we're going to give him a place this what is kip. What do we get him? A mega mega point. They'll break rules especially with Japan all right we'll trevor. We appreciate you so so much for your time and this show will be. I know well received by our listening audience and again we just appreciate all you do and love to have you on again. Thank he grabbed me. I had a blast you guys are a fun group to talk to you. Take Care Take Care of Trevor and now without further ado look. What thank you for calling the thrive time show? This is clay this. How can I help you? Oh I can help you. You are listening to the podcast so I should probably teach you something all right. Here's the deal aw at the elephant in the room are men's grooming lounge chain or an oxy fresh. The carpet cleaning franchise is owned by my partner and friend Jonathan Barnett or net or any of the businesses that I'm involved in or own or a partner with we record our calls now. I thought a great way to explain why we record our calls would be to have daisy the flower of the phones the Call Center manager hop on the show and could you explain why we record our our calls at the elephant in the room. Oh yeah absolutely so it's a great tool for accountability and holding your employees responsible for sticking to a script and it's a great way to catch any weirdness that might result as a product of not sticking to that script now we have great great customers in great employees okay but how often per her week 'cause. We have about four thousand customers that you manage their. How often per week does somebody who's a customer call in and say that they said something that they didn't actually we say oh gosh at least five times a day okay so far times a day? whoa Colin and say that they said something that they didn't say oh yeah? How often do you catch an employ Oy saying? They said they didn't say probably six times a day reality. Is You want to know what your people are actually doing doing Andrew Carnegie the world's wealthiest man during his lifetime who grew up poor and started working at the age of thirteen he once wrote he says as I get older I pay less attention to what men say. I just watch what they do well. How are you going to know what people are doing if you can't hear the calls if you were basketball coach? How could you coach the team? If you weren't at the game and didn't watch the game I mean how could you help your football team. Get better if you didn't watch the game or at least watch the video of your team at at the game. How could you just look at the scoreboard and say well guys? We're losing so we should probably run a new play. You know you've got to actually watch the game. You've gotTA listen to your your calls. Andy Grove Andy Grove. Write that name down Andy Grove the CEO the CEO of the former CO founder of Intel Intel the microchip people he says only the paranoid survive only the paranoid survive why you're not being positive well President Ronald Reagan Okay Reaganomics okay. He said the fortieth president of the United States. He said what he said trust but verify that's Oh that's huge so I decided. Let's bring Tim on the show. Tim Actually works in the call center. He's a great Guy Tim. Can you share the listeners out there. What were you doing before you joined? The elephant in the room. Team worked at Research Pharmacy. You work there and you knew believe Jonathan Kelly right. Oh Yeah Jonathan Kelly who's the manager of all things in the office was a buddy of yours from your time at research. I believe and John told me that you'd be a great fit for the team. Did you hear about the job up here. Jonathan asked me to come in and check it out and it was actually like a surprise interview for me. I had no idea what was going on and they didn't let you leave without taking the job and Jonathan was like yeah. I'll take a half day and I showed up and he was like our right so I'm going to head out and you're GonNa Fall Klay play around and I was like a doesn't doesn't clay own the company. He's like yeah. You're just GonNa follow him around ambush job recruitment there now you are you calls are recorded in. Could you share with the listeners. How having your call recording having your calls recorded and being able to hear your own calls has been able to impact you or help be improved? Oh Yeah it's it's made a world of difference. When I got here I was I was honestly horrendous which is terrifying because I've I've been talking to people on the phone for six years now for work? So if that's been a constant I've never listened to my calls until I started here here and I've never had any feedback on it so you don't even know if you're doing a good job or a bad job. No that's a really good job now. Could you explain how you've improved because you've I made huge improvements. I know you have to hear from your perspective and our the listeners would to how have you been able to improve as a result of hearing your calls Alex May know a world of difference because you know because we have all the recorded calls in a we have plenty of information go off there and we'll have the group group meetings once a week and listen to the calls and hearing my own mistakes others made in it's something that I can constantly have in the back in my mind while I'm on the phone about what needs to be done what shouldn't be done and it's just you know it's makes all the difference now daisy when I thought what we would do is I thought we would our expense the worst call ever we're GONNA we won't play a customer's name over the air and you won't play an employee's name over the we are going to play audio and I will say this Tim you've gotten bit your energies better on the phone. Your pacing is better. It sounds great but I it's more market improvement. How long did it take you to get good at your job? You think with the calls because you do a great job now I don't have I didn't save the date but as soon as I I got over being so nervous about it and you know thirty days sixty days less in a month. I'd say less than a month and I will just tell you if you're out there listening today what you don't know we'll absolutely kill you. You see when you assume it makes a boob out of you and me when you when you assume it makes a out of you and me what's that word. What's that sound when you assume it makes out of you and me so days is going to queue up a terrible not so good very bad terrible call and we're going to break down? What's wrong with the a call and you can understand why if you don't regard your calls you're going to lose? If you're a pastor of a church and you don't watch your own praise and worship service and sermons airman's you will lose if you are a pastor. You don't watch the youth pastor preach you a lose and if you're a football coach you don't watch the game film you will lose and if you're a call center manager and the flower the bones you don't record your calls you will lose you cannot win. If you don't know what's happening what's happening name was happening as bad things terrible things according to the US US Chamber of Commerce seventy five percent of American employees steal from the workplace nat includes time employs sitting around not answering the phone daisy see we have video cameras installed yeah why so that we can hold the accountable and make sure they're not doing weird stuff and using thing there one might say we'll play what phone system so you use to record the calls. I use clarity voice C. L. A. R. I T. Y. Clear voice and you might say why do you use clarity. Do they pay you to say that well. Here's the deal no they don't I use clarity voice because it's the best oxy fresh they use clarity clergy voice. We use clarity voice at elephant in the room. TIPTOP CANINE USES clarity voice. It's the best system it's the best system now. Here's the deal I'm so passionate about the system. I've been telling hundreds of people thousands of people to use clarity boys and then they reached out to me boop and they said hey we would like for you to be like a sponsor guy like an endorser guys and she referrals sell at the time. Why don't you become a sponsor so here's how it works? If you go to thrive times show DOT COM Tom Ford slash clarity thrive time show dot com forward. Slash clarity costs lower. I'm using sketch thrive time. Show DOT COM forward slash clarity C. L. A. OUR IT why they're going to give you all sorts of free stuff all sorts of discounts they can track it and then I might make some extra money so I can go buy some more easies all right right so threatening slash cloudy now it's and queue up some no good terrible very bad. Rotten phone calls so you can hear what happens when you don't record your recalls. Thank you for calling elephant in the room this summer happy to bother you again. which room is event or which buildings waitlisted there like a bunch of stories over here? there should be an elephant sticker on the window of the it's building without really looking at being able to see what you're looking at. It's Kinda hard to tell by the subway monkey pause. Sorry give give me one second round now. See that that you could see if you were a customer. White would be frustrated if the person that you're calling doesn't even know where you're located in daisy what other kinds of abominations with that particular individual do over and over before we finally had to let them go. Oh Oh my goodness so he went in and edited the schedule and did not show up for a shift on Saturday told me Oh I must have gotten gotten the wrong schedule and I look back and I was like I know I don't and because we have keystroke recorders and because Google tracks we were able to see heated what he changed his schedule and try yeah to make me think he was only scheduled from twelve to five never scheduled anyone ever to do. Tim is shocking to you. You worked at a great places. Is it shocking to you that an employee would lie about his hours Come on and you were I would never even consider we're doing something my son work with somebody who did fabricate through hours or did do something shady at work ever angels. Nothing back like that ever happened back in my department but you hear about stuff like that all the time for sure now again. Is it shocking to you daisy that the call that he had no point that he bring energy yeah no point. Did he really helped the guy. Does it shocking to you. It's it's painful. It's very very painful and I could sit there and play calls all day except everyone would be laughing at my expense. It's not cool when you take customer into the Sauna of awkwardness with you or your people freak out. There is at silence yeah yeah. It says that the can't they don't they don't they don't want to go on the sauna with you. They WanNa know is where you're located. They don't WanNa have you breeding on the phone line so again. If you're out there today and you're not recording your calls. There's a there's a if you don't know what to do that. That's that's it's like okay. I didn't know what to do. I'm getting educated. Thank you that's fine but if you know what to do and you choose not to do and I don't care whether you use clarity voice I mean you should because we're good but you could use eight by eight. That's a great company clerk Voice of Eight by eight X and we pulled brought up your eight x eight DOT COM has a great company. Okay clarity voices a great company but if you know what to do if you're somebody who understands hands what to do and you're going. I know what to do. I I don't really WANNA do it. I mean I I know what to record my calls. I just I just you know. Don't I want to do it. I'm trying to think of a word that would come to mind. I think it'd be foolish and then it Kinda think of a what word means Foolish Zhou or a person affected by extreme the inability to comprehend cause and effect the kind of person who doesn't know what you're talking about that person would be defined as an idiot now. I'm not saying you listener aren't idiot if you don't record your calls. I'm saying that people who don't record their calls are idiots. Not You the other people so again. If you care about your business at all daisy. How often do we catch abominations crimes crimes against humanity jackassery sorry on the phones at the elephant in the room or any of the other clients we work with? It's literally every single day every single day list off for me. So when the crazy things is that you have caught customers saying our teams over the years that have caused us to either fire customer or fire an employee or to make some drastic change. They'll make inappropriate remarks mark so I had somebody that tried to buy time with one of my employees was trying to bet that he knew what her age was is and if he guessed her age he would have to give her a gift card in she would have to be the one to check him out for his haircut at the evening and then she made this yeah he made this comment that he would prefer for her to call him names. How do do you mind if we danced dates? What other weird things? Have you heard customers saying on the phone lines over the years just weird stuff where you thought I don't know I don't know I didn't know that life work this way. They've asked for massages see. This is what I'm going to talk about it. Have you ever heard a recorded. Call where you've got to yourself. I don't even want to tell you feel shame just by hearing the recorded yeah I I need therapy session afterwards. Some of them get pretty weird. I hear you're an abomination on the phone lines either my clients or one of my businesses every single day and let me tell you what customers can vote with their dollars. Okay customers can vote with their dollars. If they're not happy with the service they can go somewhere else all right but also as a as a business owner. If I'm not happy with the client who's who's being sexually really inappropriate to one of our female styles. I can punt them too so again principles. I want you to understand today. You have to record your calls or your business. Will Oh off a cliff called mediocrity. You've got to record your calls or your business will fall off a cliff called mediocrity now. What's the company I recommend I recommend come in clarity voice? How do you get a good deal? Go to thrive time. Show DOT COM forward slash clarity drive time show DOT COM forward slash clarity tim you work work in the call center. What's your final justification in reason why you think all the business owners out there should record their calls yeah? If you WanNa make sure you actually have a good call and don't sound like you're having a panic attack while you're talking to the customer probably be a good idea to record your calls daisy daisy. What's your flannel encouragement as a call center manager how impossible with your job be without recording calls? What's your final tip listeners out there as to why they should record there well? I just look look at Tim. He's like my personal testimony. We literally called him. The nervous bomb-defuser for the first six months he worked with me and it's like he went from nervous bomb-defuser to Brad Pitt hit overnight the fast talking confused guy my first job and they played my calls and like wow you talk fast and wow you're confused and so we all have some sort of dysfunction that we can't fix right absolutely

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March Madness: Mike Tyson Charged

Sports Criminals

06:07 min | 9 months ago

March Madness: Mike Tyson Charged

"This is sports. Criminals March madness special every day in March. We're counting down the top thirty one sports scandals of the past thirty one years today. We're going back to nineteen ninety one. When heavyweight boxer Mike Tyson was delivered a knockout punch and charged with the sexual assault of Miss Black America beauty contestant desert Washington for more shocking sports events from history tune in right here every day to our march madness special. Listen free on spotify. Or wherever you get your podcasts in Las Vegas Jim on September Tenth Nineteen Ninety. One world champion boxer. Mike Tyson pummeled the bag. His fists landed with rhythmic satisfying thoughts. Tyson was in the zone training. For the biggest fight of his career. The match against if Vander Holyfield reclaim his title as world heavyweight champion. When he came out of the gym he was met by a press of reporters and journalists all clamoring for a sound bite. But they weren't asking about his practice regimen or the upcoming fight instead. They demanded a statement on the events unfolding in Indianapolis Ohio hours before Tyson had been indicted on rape charges. Welcome to sports. Criminals are cast original. This is the second episode in our March Madness special this month were counting down the top thirty one sports scandals from Nineteen Ninety to two thousand twenty a Carter Roy and I'm Tim Johnson in today's episode. We're going back to nineteen ninety one when Mike. Tyson was charged with the sexual assault of Miss Black America beauty contestant as a rave Washington in nineteen eighty six. Twenty year old boxer. Mike Tyson became the youngest heavyweight champion in history. He was young and exciting with less than a year of professional boxing experience under his belt and yet he managed to defend and hold the title for four years but fame came fans particularly women on July Eighteenth Nineteen ninety-one while attending a promotional event for the Miss Black America beauty pageant. Twenty five year old Mike Tyson met and flirted with a contestant eighteen year old desharnais Washington. The pair exchanged phone numbers agreeing to meet up later that night at one thirty the next morning. Tyson pick disarray up in a limo. They went up to his room where they watch television for a few minutes does array got up to use the bathroom and when she returned she found. Tyson lying in bed wearing only his underwear at that point she tried to leave only for Tyson to wrestle her onto the bed and then Raipur the next day desert reported the sexual assault to police. Tyson maintained that the encounter was consensual but after months of investigations and hearings. Mike Tyson was indicted in September. In addition the owner of the Miss Black America pageant filed a lawsuit against Tyson accusing him of being a quote serial buttocks fondly of black women. Tyson's managers and the boxing world is a whole were insistent that the accusations shouldn't interfere with his career. He was scheduled to battle the heavyweight champion. Vander Holyfield and possibly reclaim his title on November. Eighth Tyson was unwilling to let a criminal trial interfere with the event. After all the Los Angeles Times mused that the match would be the richest fight in boxing history netting more than one hundred million dollars. His managers assured the public that the highly profitable fight would go on but it was ultimately scuttled due to Tyson's legal troubles in an unrelated rib injury. Tyson sexual assault trial began in January of nineteen ninety two and launched one of the first mainstream discussions about date rape witnesses and lawyers quibble over whether desert as flirtatious manner before she went to. Tyson's room indicated consent ultimately the jury found in desert as favor and sentenced Tyson to six years in prison. Mike Tyson's rape case served as decades early precursor to the metoo movement as did his defenders arguments that his talent and fame should shield him from legal consequences of his actions. Twenty nine year old Tyson was released in March nineteen ninety five after serving only three years. Even though he'd failed to complete certain classes that were part of a sentencing countless reporters watched him step out of prison speculating on whether he still had a fighting edge he did in nineteen ninety. Six Tyson reclaimed his heavyweight title. He continued to box professionally for nine more years. But all the while he was plagued by controversy more women came forward accusing him of assault in one thousand nine hundred ninety three nineteen ninety six nineteen ninety eight two thousand one and two thousand two through it. All Tyson enjoyed continued support from his fans is advocates and managers consistently argued that the charges were false and that it unfair that a young talented athlete should see. His career derailed due to what they claimed per baseless allegations. Thanks for listening to sports criminals March madness. We'll be back tomorrow with next year's scandal. You can catch other episodes of sports criminals for free on spotify or wherever US podcasts.

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KSI v Logan Paul 2 LA preview show

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

46:19 min | 1 year ago

KSI v Logan Paul 2 LA preview show

"Shannon Cannon Briggs and you're listening to the to-to-to podcast leftover champ. Hello and welcome to this week's ring soy tights Typo cost and we are in Los Angeles Venice beach with open workouts. All about what's happening a couple of hours time muscle beach a couple of hundred years down the line of of sleeping. They're working out this morning on natural habitat and I'm delighted to say data on joined by Jiwa Nine. I JUST WANNA make sure I get it on Johnny Nelson always great to have you here Joe. I'll start with you in this. There's no beating around the bush. The reason we are here is because we're GonNa talk about what the Staples Center to youtubers turned professional boxes. This is they've already had a just. Give us your initial thoughts about flight week and what we can expect. So we'll see. I mean. We saw yesterday both guys full of energy full of charisma any Java spices. And you know you believe both of them. Both of them are talking a big game. You know they're gonNA end the career and you believe him. You know listen to one even like step books and cruise it. That's there so yeah. I mean not boxing. What I'm talking like their whole Internet? You know that sort of career they wanNA THEY WANNA sears takeover. They wanted the number one and I think this week you augustine can we can sort of see the real sort of demeanor of whether these guys really believe what they're saying this week and I think already. They're showing they're showing that they've they've trained really hard these. These boys have both be learning the box in trade for well over a year now year and a half I think. Jj Two years. I I don't think we're GONNA see that you know it's not just two guys off the street that don't know what they're doing Obviously they're not going to be up to the level of Billy Joe Saunders wounded and Devin Haney. But I think we're GONNA see a good show. It's going to be very exciting and yeah it's GonNa be it's GonNa be worth it. I believe Johnny hallyday because I then then what about your in before before before before. This happens oh I have to say I put my hands up. I hadn't heard of Logan pull apart from the instance had happened opened in Japan and the bad press foot him around. I haven't heard of either until they may in what we could call a white call about in Manchester which was a massive huge event. Where you with all did you know about these nuts like a member last year when they had the fine Manchester interview them both? Yeah Yeah Yeah and whatnot so youtube building in London and there's a massive crowd outside. I thought so these four was coming. Yeah I wa- nobody. We're what fair enough on the inside and these two volts in Canine local Poland. And he would just you boys and the funds went mad for for them I touch of like a approaching youtuber. These guys are massive and because a fund that you walk in shrieked six people saying you don't care say you know Logan poll can you. Can you get these guys styles. I thought everybody was into boxing but then you realize realize boxes that be in comparison to a lot of things are happening and these guys have They've they've they've got onto something and we'll champions on the UNDERCARD Saturday and people must make if you were boxing. Would you be upset by not really I think he's a chance for the the bill does and your heading east on the car to say you know. Yeah look at me. This box is all about but it's interesting intriguing. We'll we'll get to that in split into two parts who do like a youtube element of will get on the on the call the professionals Joe if you could as quickly as you know everyone will know who these guys. Aw nobody will know about the youtube world. Can you just summarize cookbooks and he's stepping into the youtube world. Tell us a little bit so these two guys. I'd say ah the kings of their field. You Know Logan in the US JJ in the UK Obviously you know they've done everything they possibly can the youtube world you know and this naturally is something that they're not going away from so you know gaming and stay from game in that they they've done Jason Football. He's done acting music youtube so I think I think it's just where they've paved the way they've pointed a lot of things you know. Jj Sort of like the first one to do it in the UK. He has helped a lot of the big create is in the UK. You know. Get where they are today. He's inspired. Oh people and he pushed boundaries the other people have and likewise with Logan. Obviously you know the youtube books but you know what I came from where you've taken us into the next part heavily. Involve it just well. You might as well explain the situation. The feds say we wouldn't be sitting here. Oh enjoying this lovely salmon a very speech. If it wasn't for you it may have happened but it might not just explain your in with all of that. Yes pretty much like I had the idea you know. I want to do Ah Boxing video with my friend. Phil Youtuber Theo Baker pretty much. We went to some industrial industrial state. Jim with the boxing ring filmed and and one that bout then. KFI commented saying. Let me for a winner so I was like all right. Let's let's do you know let. Let's take this to a proper arena. China boxing fun. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah so that's why you know is pushing for all you know. I'm a fan of box in talking about. Well I mean you know taking it seriously you know we going for it trying to win. It wasn't deadly de we're going to try to end each on screen but yeah then. Jj decided it to do and we did it at a couple of blocks so that was an half thousand and Ended up being the biggest most watch. What boxing event in the world in history And then obviously you know our lost Then JJ proceeded to cool out. Logan pull or Jake. Paul Logan took the achievers can get it. Yeah Yeah yeah any of them and then they had there and then you know here we all tonight and it's massive. It's huge battle between new. Ginger yes so that you know I it was like you know. Let's do this. You know we fancy it but I think it turned sour when Press Conference the first press conference You know he's all. I'm very open about my mental to help. And he used it as a way to try and attack me I I you know radio. I didn't like that. So you know all stood up to that and then he was sabotaging his career by in a row image but So that that went very sour and yeah I think that's what it was very intense but that's what really grip the audience. That was real bad blood between us you know so yeah and then see for Logan in them. I think there's as much genuine hatred but they both. It's more of an ego thing. It's more about being number one in the world for them in the world so yeah could can ask you. Can you feel free to go into as much depth depth as you feel comfortable with so one of the things doing more research on. This was when you lost. It's not just a a a loss in a box in ring when you live your life the way you do in social circles where your whole life is played out in Utah on Youtube and social media fed. Say That when you lost it it was a big loss. Something Took took a toll on you and careers always. That Roy is one hundred percent. I mean. Obviously he you know the standard thing of you put in seven months of work believe in hard work pays off and then not only does it not pay off. uh-huh just froze on the night didn't perform. I didn't throw any punches. That obviously really destroy me and then you just have the fans the people that you know haters. Don't ever let you forget about it. So whenever you post anything that telling you you go out you go no doubt you can't talk about books and you know even though I'm passionate about it you can't talk you now so it's sort of like it changes you in a way you know you really have to become an you know the way these guys are now toll king the one that loses and if a brutal knockout this you know they all setup to seriously be mean D- thing isn't it so we only see thirty three or four two and I am not qualified to cloudy Spa. We took it means now. On on tweet reply the the one click on now is going to be the loser of this Logan pocus that it'd be the one main that people will touch the thing with. It's more of just like to say Jake come out and interviews and said on one hundred percent knock him out. I'M GONNA show him how good I am. And then they'll clip that and not going twitter and be replayed over and over again followed by him getting sparked hypothetically or you know Logan vice versa. It's if you had a chat with Jonny Wilkinson the bulk says so you might as well I if you join US professional record especially around I mean took about coming back from Lewis spoke about about the direction action January. That's what a lot of professional fighters had to get through. That's part of the game. You can go through experience wisdom. So that's going to happen. How did how did you feel when you've got the backlash so did you personally feel annoyed? Probably how did you personally feel that I was like you know Swat signed up to but I think it's. It's where you know. I tried to then come back and reinvent myself in that and I think they don't let go and even two years on its new going on about it. It does great on you. You know when you're when you're maybe not feeling the best and they're still saying it's a think you'd you'd be lying said it's doesn't have some effect and that's what do you think the most I think I think it will hurt. Jj Jackass The most because he was yeah if he was to lose purely. Because I feel at Youtube is all all he has. I mean he's he's tried music acting. KC I think youtube is rudy. His Logan he wants to move on from Youtube. He wants to become do acting fulltime and try new things. So I think you'll be able to so tight the loss and move on whereas Jason. He's in this for the long run. It's a big gamble for Jerry. Yes one hundred percent cold cold out. he's brother Call Real Ferdinand Nicolai. Any did you not think what are you doing. Do you realize what you've got to lose. Jj Yeah I mean that's that's why you know overseeing seeing that he doesn't have the the best athletes athletic like technique and seeing the you know in terms of boxing he doesn't display that he's got it down onto a T. He talks a game. You know of someone that is going to be a world champion. And that's what I'm saying. If he doesn't deliver that not only that but gets beat him badly it that's swell setting himself up but talking about doing as a career Camonte condos play boxing especially with the life. You hop as you choose and you're busy doing do whatever you do. If you're not gonNA commit one hundred percent about you know just just in the ring emotions going to every aspect. Does that worry you or with. We do through stray a little bit into the boxing chat. Does it worry you all that. Perhaps these two guys they haven't been in school in the fundamentals from eight nine ten eleven years old. They didn't have that much background. Yeah it's a level playing field but the hiccups have gone and it's little gloves Eddie. Hung was very clear like he expects. Someone's getting knocked out to. I don't think they took touch wood. I don't think they're good enough to really inflict some heavy damage on the show and I think they're going to be. There's going to be smart referee in the watch. These two relative these Novi says says On the big stage now they raise the kind of back to front. So they've got the fame and glory but the happened to learn to learn a Tuft of job I don't think anybody will get physically That bad but I think emotionally is how they do it because this is on a massive scale. It's got even beginning your so. That's what I'm saying. That's the hardest part about this game makes. This is when the lights down. You're not in the ring and people are sending texts emails or all rights to buy. That's holidays thing to handle. What what do you think about you? Know the ten ounce gloves no head. God's these boys sport like that you know the first time they can experience it is on the noise so these young Washington but can think what difference does it make grand gloves Mosul. Weight's going to be around there around the wrist so therefore Wendy's guys get hit with a ten ounce it's GonNa her now with twelve but with a ten it's going to know had gone on. It's going to really her so so therefore they're going to be a little gun shy when he get hit and get really hurt Or they're gonNA really go. Fra I agree. I don't think he'll go the distance I think one of them's are the athletic in regards to Locum Paul. And he's at the hunter that combat background. Obviously we do in a wrestler. I don't think that was the first time But both of them are trained. Very very hard yeah and Judges talks about having. This is a career afterwards. Let's just say after Sutton if spider listen to some of the costs are out there. The moment logan on the he said he having done it. One Johnson step back into it. He didn't take any time off. He's been training the whole time so he feels that he's had. That's part twelve months to improve. Do you think that that is a big factor K so I went on toward in the. I don't know well that means we'll just going on tall main effectively so he went on music With his Abbas yes the music starts. Yeah he went on the music tool on claims to have been training consistently but come on like fuel going from place to place. You sleep in raw food. You don't have time to get in soulard consistent session so you know I feel like Logan's got to have that advantage in terms of set for say if you're at because we're in the boxing world we we know you call Pratt properly for fi- living down so you can get away without some people don't really know how Sushi GonNa Commit. But if that's being the lifestyle therefore for he's under prepared for a big five and and the stakes are really high. Some people say about training camp. You should use it. Hone your skills rather than use a training camp. Take way off off from what Eddie saying the guys that saw. Jj on the media tour. This camp has been about taking the way off focusing on the other aspects. I wonder how that could be John. Really what pick your brains on do you think. Now you've stepped into the boxing world. Having been in the Youtube social circles can we learn. I'm from how you guys do it. Professional boxing take things from that world and improve itself. I mean the way they promote at this point it has to be elements that we can learn how you guys do understand. I mean that that is the biggest thing the way you know. You've got two big personalities really going at it and I think that's what is selling this. I feel like you know you could be the best boxer in the world but if you're not giving people a reason to care story is probably the best technical box. And the time. And nobody people with him. Because he couldn't articulate himself COMMUNICA you know. That's that's a huge thing. People are so invested in the storyline. These two guys. They've had the first match. We saw. Well how that paid out. They're still talking a good game. We want to know the answer you know I feel that is the thing that maybe yeah professionals could maybe look at it and maybe use it. I think boxing wise. There's much to do. I think people are expected to find an game. MM story cells. Aj against Y eats personnel excels with McGregor. Having been around that for the weekend the difficulties rate different groups the US's biggest at the time but some of that had done simple amateur boxing in the background and it was like the best versus even though we know new floyd had faded. Even though we uh new McGregor wouldn't perhaps have any real genuine Marxist goes but actually the when the we came along there was so much genuine intrigue. The I think we've got sucked into it. The game we're going to be. I know what's going to happen going to spend on make no secret of when it was announced those I all please please but now I'm here you kinda get invested in. It wasn't documentaries. Commend now I think he has that crossover tail light light. Mayweather McGregor at that cue. That crossover appeal this place before. Then I don't know I don't know what. The percentage of Youtube is and boxing funds But I'll tell you one thing. We'll we'll get a trickle but get a trip to support poor. People think that it's a couple of young is on the bill you know. I got their attention. And that's the whole point par the whole point of getting involved in this just to to to draw that that that that do you think this is the stall of youtube books in potentially but the the thing is obviously for this event you haven't haven't seen Q.. Of Youtube is come forward and say look I really really want to be on this card You've got joint planning because I think they see how intense how how brutal is you know. It's not game you play boxing like you say in a think yeah. There's you know Youtube is realizing that. And the fact that almost is going to to know how God's and tennis clubs swimmers almost what you call it not take a step back and go. Oh go ahead. It's almost like we effectively settling could make break. Couldn't if he goes well. You probably see a few more. It's the start of something big. If it goes badly it could be that they go back and do their own youtube. That's so I thought it would exist as its own championship. Mean someone said to me. Do you think to Youtube could hit the stadium. Five Yeah I believe Logan Bouquets I in the UK could sell out Wembley genuinely genuinely a hundred percent hundred percent naked. Do gene numbers of picture numbers. I think I think the subscriptions of the to behead is twenty million go twenty million twenty million yet. I think the thing is is with the Youtube audience. If it's priced right the tickets for this event all quite expensive I five hundred seven hundred and fifty dollars. I think that's a key could be a little bit too unaccessible but if they were to do Wimbley you know reasonably price you would sell the out out in a couple of days honestly. I genuinely believed that might come up to industry and say Oh my God you've met Yankees this guy shocks me and I'm sat here let your Granddad carriage music place for it in the Gary. It's no secret could I didn't know a lot about it. It's IT blows my mind. They'll have to say so. I want to ask you guys a question of having seen the guys you know what you have of them. And who do you think's GonNa win. Logan Pool wins really was that I watched the maverick documentary over on the plane. This sales pitch for either well done but I just think he seems to be the more naturally athletic leads to everything that we just said. He went away and trains. James didn't and it's my feelings on my cat. Local police one that that's that's probably now paid some serious attention to it. You look at the background the bill to do these guys are pret- I go pull because he looked physically looks apart physically looks like it's at Ti usually does rise to the topic comes on top and and Jay is a lot of that but is it going to be enough to break the heart to break the soul of Logan Pope. I don't know I don't think so off would you do again again Knowing what you know now well I mean this is the thing with modify. I made a loss on my the loss on not fight these guys. I'll make an astro astronomical amounts so I mean you go away not made a loss that is where we would go through to go through. It didn't make any videos. I didn't do any work because I was like. Yeah this is going to be at least at least you know coming in on the video. It still wasn't uploading and then oversee apparently much but like basically pretty much produces hate anytime. We're going there anyway. Apparently apparently cachet stopped Many sponsors getting involved Because he didn't want to make money from the event because you know that's how Petri was about so he we're both from the same management and he is the top so let's just say that. Yeah that obviously you know that that sucked in in a way I think to do again. Yeah that would be reasonable in order for me to take off work but in terms of you know the passion I think the passion to want to do it and want to win has to be there. You know it's not you know you can't go into this whole Foshan just care about the money so yeah I think we'll see we'll see you excited for it now. We cannot say so excited Like I say I'm a fan of it you know. I'm fine of books in Bama Refund finding these guys you know. Their rivalry is amazing to watch their so captivating there so you know look I say how much you believe in you. Just want to get the on site you know. I'll call white to to see how it unfolds money on. I'M GONNA have to say naturally. It's called the Sculpture Logan Pool. You know he's fourteen months to work on you. We already had you know you only trained for three months lost time and he almost got the win against the guy had been doing it already for a year and I think if he's at forty more months while the other guys being one of music tool aw And having to she sheds white I feel like he is going to have the edge with turnout. Gloves no head God's It seems like Logan can should have the ability to finish it Reasons why they're doing it financially because my understanding of the Youtube world is that they could sit and make one video that they can make their fight purse in a couple of videos now the money on often fights supersedes. Yeah I think maybe for those guys six years of youtube videos maybe is what they really believe maybe ten yes ma'am now genuinely because the money for the figure heard I believe. Yeah I'm not GonNa say what is Yeah okay well. I think that we're GONNA say good. Boise you being replaced. Bought from war-torn bad. Thank you very much. Thank you and I'm sorry. Hopefully we ought not knowing anything about Matt Matt Matt Clean Welcomes Finish. Speech has left treating. He could be a lot. Were brought down and makes noises. There's a little bit of that in there get to the point where they'd be. WD Four he will listen to some of the things that I think we should try and do it back around sound a little bit that there will be a backlash from some of the things that case. Why saying? Maybe I'll come to you. I only because you heard there will be backlash from some things Jerry saying there about talking about watching legitimate pros That is not going to happen. But that's very unlikely. Listen again. People don't realize when you train to five I'll give you an example real numbers training for quite a while to and and the the rewards when you're starting out doing a six rounder. Six six two minute rounds. It's just not worth the commitment he takes. You've got to be prepared to commit your life insults with neglect your friends and family for so when Jay Jay talking about taking the To box if he wants to succeed into any thin- eh. Yes get these red lights. Go to give life to and I just don't think he's Gonna I just. Don't think my Avocado Debbie again. He's at one to two years the one year so you can't do and looking into boxing not having fun learning the fundamental takes. So you just can't do it and so I think these boys are going to learn the harsh lesson tonight. Especially when you see the likes of Billy Joel Haney on the UNDERCARD On the UNDERCARD. Because you'll see the vast difference in how far they actually are and have go to get to that level well about We'll come onto the minute. What do you think about The the original announcement how you felt about it at the time L.. Spike you off camera and got some good opinions on. How do you feel now? I think you just have to move with the Times. I think we were not as long as we. Don't pretend something reason we would ease these two guys who have got my suit following on social media. I've had I've walked color. Then I WANNA do for real. We'd headgear off and small. The proper professional lives on and Away I've got to respect their their egos in reputation so much to lose. I had no idea. There's much Sali's this. NOBODY LIKES TO LOSE ANYTHING IN LAW. We're not even allowed to lose a game of chance so lose anything so you know these are these are obviously competitive. The people who have done as well as they've done their driven and you know the bill it's been a lot of talk has an ego is on the line you know. They'll both have big egos bruising which one of them's GonNa get severely smashed not bruised so that takes on the line for that respect. I respect them both kids. What it is it's I think from our point of view. Cover Nick On scar in thinking of the logs Billy Joe Saunders Devon Heine falling on undercard. They had the real that we're interested. I'm intrigued yes the Youtube was. How do I am intrigued to see how they will fare to see you walk kind of audiences what book what? Age Demographic Graphic. That's what's intriguing. Because when Manchester you would not believe it was a load screaming. Kids want being a crash But I want to see what what what this one says. Yeah surprised that sharing via different demographic here. Let's get on the UNDERCARD. Joe This have you joining. Because Billie Jo's Dominic Ingo Bevin sidetrack how's he looking. How's he doing what? What do you expect him from him? On Saturday night was telling you dominate king left to be with. Ben Davis Davis spend a lot time in America with With Tyson Fury. Sure so you just need some more one on one. They've come to an agreement say we can work together I saw bill in the gym and set new. He'd be Pike and he started laughing. And that's why I said because you're pack animal and shame. You've got a lot of shapes and sizes of kids you know the the they'll compete with kids caught fire but the great jim fighters and I and you need that competition to drive you on to get fitted to get yourself in shape So so I think especially with having dominic is corny. He's got so many. Just GonNa take an unlikely but very good. And that's what it is and it can be a real hard taskmaster muster. Billy Joel Neva a Nissan. That not to pull the I I of him and and again I think he's getting himself back to winning ways way way can convince him when he looks. Par was last time last time. I didn't look as is usual. Slick south that's now getting back to normal here. Do you want to see him. Fight if he comes through this father weekends I mean he's in opposition opposition Billie Joe where he's got so many real solid options on the table. I mean as the Fault we calendar Smith that could happen. super middleweight unification. Asian for you Obviously can a love still there. Those boys could still happen. So many options on to meet your sun-dried you know. Maybe Danny Jacobs the so many many options for for Billy Joel and key that he wins and wins and looks good. Johnny sit there and I think that was a really good match for village. I think when he bucks David W it was probably probably deep performance of showed up. You know winning their and he looked an absolute million dollars. Boxed the head of debut former champion big punt shiny on just in the country away from high school. He took the nickname. Christmas Mu hasn't capitalized on. That killed him waiting around blowing. Open the performing woman to fault. That's two years ago. Is that since. I'm one of them. Is picked up a well title in the village. Always a natural Baumbach. So you know. He's gifted no one needs to teach joe how to box just natural team. I think he does need someone. Like Dominic Ingles taskmaster who whip him into shape and as Johnny said. I think he's the type that likes the boys in the gym with the lights. You know to to get the Best Adam South so I think you know as long as he wins and each should win. It's it's a contend voluntary defense then the mixture is going to be a massive here for religious orders stage. Would you just WanNa see me one of the names. That Matt's mentioned a Megan nine sage on the stage and needs to try and make sure every five means something should have been a walkover on paper purpose. It was it was a bit of thought. This one is as well and Again he needs to. If you're going to take risks especially at this stage. What did he say years old now? you. You need to make sure it means something. Every he's over the knees I'll just shake their. He's only two but he's been around a long time. Yeah I think I think catching headed use Olympia in eighteen years of age. So that's a long time ago now two thousand night so you know he's he's been inactive really get so. I wouldn't say this but I think he's one of those jobs saunas that he's just off taking the biggest and the best and the hardest one against the mute the threat of that point children immunity. Boxing's writing then. He boxes. Someone I didn't know he should be performed. Maybe five or six ten. He needs that. Fear as belly to Mike You you perform to his best is callum Smith Billy Joe Saunders the fight for unfilled if you if that is the one that can be made And this is no no reason. Why shouldn't and that could be? Imagine that being a great seller as well and both FIS funds count states very very cool and calm and same much but billy Joel's funds this fine. There's no reason why shouldn't and again you're GONNA make sure every five means something Especially this study career. Mabel Stephen Hiney Matt Fan Without Todd Not too young lockable guy superb talent and I think he's only it hasn't even scratched the surface is Katie. Still improving lie. It'll be approved for another five or six years. I think he's a gifted massive massive future eight of your money's my key already. He's a world. Champion elevates world champion of the moment the WBZ. I think frustration the any governing body. Don't WanNA throw them straight under the bus. By making a franchise champion. What does that do because Loma is? WBZ champion the next. Ah Prefer to again. I prefer to win a title in the ring over the phone. It ropes in at the moment. Yeah Yeah Yeah. So so. It's not until after Saturday'll thing well you know I'm world chomping on account of the ring not feeling not even now on this winning himself. No believe they're the best but he wanted to prove inaction and if he's only within with himself he will not feel until after he wins and winning on Saturday He's never gave his career well. He's fathers being instrumental in in his movements and development inside and outside literary and so I think he's done everything correct. And he's down to the governing bodies to to to to Tim to right wrongs and I when I heard he got by a phone call on on a Gabe down. I'm not agree with Johnny to buy that Morbid whether it's a points decision at the knockout just hearing the AMC's under new. You know we never going to get over all over. You know difference to celebrate you because he wins at the weekend. You'll still get buffered by Marco. Buffet pay still. It's not quite the same as it. I was one something worth mentioning with every ninety boxing. You need dance partner. You need royals stroke house. I suffered for years that he didn't you know he came to be after Benue by Collins in them and took him a while to to get that recognition. But he already Evan Haney already has already my dance partner Roy Garcia who has a huge profile as well. Aw but I just actually produced a great performance at the weekend so Switzer today the Ryan Gosling who gala. Nora's while Aiming Hoya Heuer you sure well precocious talents on there ahead of the US beyond themselves really speed the place that fearlessness. That self belief that you. That's how I have but I think down the Line Garcia and you'll be huge hanes. No He's not the finished article. Yeah either I still learning so so if you're going to get it you need to get him. Now before is a Finnish article. What would you think about Heine against Loma again? One of those spots. Ah He's not the finished article so if you're going to find them I false Loma taunting down now doing nanny okay But if I was hanging out saying I'd let's just take over the world. Would you make Campbell Haney Campbell. One to say the experience I mean Luke. Campbell showed that he can box with anyone in the in the Llama chunk of. Yeah he lost the fall in Las. Probably Most Ryan's book he Chanko thing can adjust them work hard in every single around. It was real high-tech stuff you now and ask you almost think you look at landscaping. You think headed the moves that can be made right. And you'd you'd hate to think that Luke Campbell could render retiring having not WanNa while tile when you see the light coming through that you could see how that could happened. I'd be such a shame because he is welcome that sugar in the world's oil Highness speed speed is hard to Bateman this reflects afflicts only a couple of the points the weekend we might as well start with the things that we did. Katie Taylor the reception that she ofter that felt like. And I heard this on the bumps and Castilla Five Lloyd podcasts. It's very telling that actually we haven't done a fight here. Kt Folkston stadiums and when she won the world. There's about fifty thousand in the stadium at the time but because because the stadium so fast. It's like watching ants so far away connection. This fell like a breakthrough moment for women's boxing in the UK. The reception she got at the end. The Oh my overselling. This and we'll get into Carter w-we headline and she's a great crowd. It wasn't it was too. Yeah she she she spearheaded defined that you look at And again you'll just forget. Walked you just you think she's at. She have very good smart boxer and is a massive difference in levels and quality women's boxing she-she's head and shoulders above themselves. So competition is nabbed. Then what. She didn't say she performed on Saturday or against I I took it was brilliant box or a high a tight when it was it was Britain. Boxing Berlin bugs bunny to see some of the stuff off the woods from Christina Leonardo not she was very upset. Yeah I think schools H. E.. Should we talk now. Though she played a part in a really good. I think she might cut you work every second of every Ryan might have reduced and she won't Ryan's book. I thought one six four of the classics four winner Associate she she who is Boxed brilliantly didn't get involved used the ring change that they swept under pressure all the time. And you've got to think eight bucks a movie and funding Nangle Change Your tactics as she was spot on a wonderful in order to watch this person flight. That's the way to be Katie Taylor by walking down fighting with pressure. Yeah I think I think. She had more finesse than pursued but probably not as relentless physical as concern but also K.. was better in the fact that she was against the ring. She changed dangle. Brilliant offense was really good and you talked about bringing different crowds to boxing. You know there was. There was a lot lot of children a lot of women in the arena. And you talked about crawler being he was in Manchester and it was hard. It was the main attraction but the the reality is when okay tyler fights no matter who you're there to what you watch for you ever watch is people recognize greatness. We you know we talked about with lung. Chen Co is doing the Press the media. Walk out your call. And he got a standing ovation. Everyone was cheering him. And we said well. If you're if you're remind you find the plane Barcelona you still want to see that automated and it's like you won't be a fan of someone else on the cod. But when he comes on you know she's got these seora and everyone recognizes this one. Just look everybody's face at ringside conversation. Stop they just meant they walk. She breaking down barriers. She's she's appointed pointed to catch away. She just wants to find she's not she's not fame hungry. She just wants to find and and you can send some about a thought. You know what you've not changed at all from that's a really easy subject to Kuala is less so because at the time I think we felt the Franco Kyaw good been hard on me and he deserved to win. The I think. Actually we saying it didn't really matter Matt Burke Yoga but I if CRA hadn't got the decision the reaction would have been the same he simply said I don't have anymore. Yeah that's the most honest think he could've done to kill. The argument said this on that. I've met someone. Sweet something All I said well yeah I thought crawler one block. It doesn't matter you know he's a he's retired now anyway. This is a good forum fee to explain yourself so yeah exactly but it was. It was kind of what I said. The are was badly worded. The tweet didn't convey what a meant. What I meant was it didn't matter for crawler decline win-lose withdraw? He was retiring anyway causing Matzos for Kiogora and ever the seasons about decision so of course it matters for him because he could've gone on board. I think he's reputation has gone up any. I always that he gave a great for a make. Sure you use me again. I think he would use him again. Absolutely shame you didn't get that moment of getting. His hand raised I. If if you believe that he won the for some people thought criminal on the for some people in rings on the hands down it was a close eye. Dirk Yoga boy around stop. That was one of our close so you could easily see how it could be around the other way for so I think it was just pay okay because it was badly was obviously. I'M NOT GONNA say it doesn't matter that got the of course it does. It didn't for crawl because it was close. It happened did you. He probably did you ever have that way. You realize the body won't do what the mind putting conflicts before started in waiting for Adam Smith to finish commentating cross it. I just haven't got it. You know go to Anderson. You know me that off camera so he said Yeah. I just haven't got any you know they'll pick on it before pickup bill on it before anybody else. Most fattest make excuses for it until somebody is brave to say you've got anymore so so I knew it to public to funds before unfinished. I was getting caught by shots when I should have been getting. Caught by. Kids shouldn't be in cash him. I think I get it. It's very on this. I tell you one thing i. I'm impressed by how motivated he was knowing he was going into ring. Honey don't because as usual in the fight is said. I'm quitting this. My last Fi- is already quit. And the flight's GonNa have him on and so when you up against it and yeah having a hard finance think and and I don't really need is I'm not bothered. And he still managed to drum up the energy that desire to still fi. Give all these goals you acquitting commentary about Hula you knew in fights. You'RE GONNA tell Shane Mr pull you out. He said. Didn't you in the corner that you knew such a through a little bit. I feel feel better each. We're not going to see him back because he doesn't think that he's GonNa Anymore. Yeah it was probably a good thing that it didn't perform well howdy performed. Well he's got a big following opportunities. Would've come frame people would've would've temptations there would have been offers they find it always rain. Phone would ring ringing Eddie. Would say look you know this has been offered would be. He's job to convey that combined the alphabet to him and performed really well and felt good. He's going yeah. Well you know what I mean. He's not where I think I think that performances the fight it gave him closure you know and I know myself carried carried on a bit longer. I actually on the back of four wins. H performance. Like no really. I didn't feel good at any of them and it was hoping that there was there was excuses. Who Sees for every reason why did before while and there was some plausible you know some of them are quite plausible but nonetheless the bomb line? That's a look back and think you know what about fights lights in the last. Three years have performed well so for whatever the reason is it narrowly more and you know that that's an authority. I thought I I'd close those four points because carried on that little bit extra because it did give me closure and I think boy onside. We'll have given it any crawler closure do you think Kovalyov closure probably not because he's got a few more facts that's designed to. Can we clear something up is not fixing getting Chinda fixed. That's all I think about. The flat canal ending was fixed. Shoo me surely you look at how the fight went about and Cannella was basically exit clay. He's presence was terrorizing them bullying making call at five when he didn't want to. When you've got so many that still shop front TV still trying to pop those shots in body shots Hans shots over and they were fast your shots and you watch when Coppola goes down and watch this spring in the step in canal when he just switches round? He's got a lot more energy. Let you thought it was a matter of time and And had the confidence. You don't know what happens behind closed doors with a low of five so so someone told canal say I can break. You know what kind of fight you are no way weaknesses. I've just got to keep you on the mental pressure and great right tactics. He walked down. You know he took guitar and walking down even if we get to him and he was slow. Any boxing quote while early on cavalry. At the same time time Cannella was happy to lose those rounds knowing that he would catch he was going to catch up with him. He was losing the battles but he was winning the war and he was just he was stepney applaud. Johnny said when he turned in just before he could see the energy you can see the dime dynamism and him. He was stepping up. The PACE and cover was didn't have a lot left. You could see. He'd been burning up song which nervous energy as going on he was he was he was he was ready to go on a stepped it up and what a piece of leftover me sitting away underneath me. There was no. I think he's future is not at light heavyweight for the moment that I assume unless you do critically Sousa the fight finished I said do not be surprised of Andre Ward being thrown into the mix of say through this five from your show on. I'm telling you do not be surprised at the the march thrown out there. Because you don't yeah don't is

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Ep.6 - Former BOXER creates a "GLAMPING" SUCCESS! - Sharifah

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Ep.6 - Former BOXER creates a "GLAMPING" SUCCESS! - Sharifah

"Evening beautiful people and welcome back to another episode of the culture. Podcast my name is finally and I. I like to say a big. Thank you to all of you guys. Who are listening watching and streaming videos in our podcast on various platforms. You guys have supported us for the first five episodes and you guys are the reason why I'm keep doing this. So big. Thank you to all of you. Let us know. Be a community. Let us know what is that? You'd like to hear more of so that I can also go out there to help you find the kind of content that you're interested in on top of that. Also we now have the function available on anchor. Fm for listeners support. What that basically means is that you guys can now support me in this production of this podcast by paying a monthly subscription of up to one dollars or five dollars or even more. It's totally up to you. Guys on a monthly subscription so that you can help me with the production of this podcast and just to let you know in the future. Once this whole lockdown circuit breaker hinting is over. I do plan on actually holding these. Podcasts live studio podcast which means that. I'll be having the guests. Come over into the studio and Redo a recording itself so there's a lot of course going to be involved and I hope to bring that kind of entertainment in that kind of value in content to you so if you guys do want to see more of that kind of content any kind of contribution is welcomed just hit onto anchor dot FM and the deep culture and you can search for listening support. I hope you guys enjoy the content of our. I really thank you for the support and I hope you enjoyed this episode. All right guys so BECA. Today's episode so today I have a very interesting guests with me. She's an old friend of mine from Junior College We have very few recollections of our relationship back then really knew other and then we totally didn't have any contact at all for the last couple of years until recently when I heard about her experiences in. Her Stories is an entrepreneur in intrigue me. So I thought you'll be good to have a on on this podcast. Basic story is that she loves trying new stuff I knew her a bit From JC when she was in the me culture society she was the President of Cultural Society. So she did a lot of military and stuff like that and then also Now I understand that. Recently she was actually the Marketing Manager in Boxing Company. And she left at job to start up a clamping company we. She's running right now. Of course no during the covid nineteen but she's currently doing during this period so without further ado please help me. Welcome Sharifa did culture. Podcasts Welcomes River Malini. Thanks to your most of us. Yeah because it's so much I really don't know you but I think I know you. So it's like I want to see more. I don't really know what I'm going to say I'm going to see is right or not let should maybe can you the y'all right or wrong okay. So from what I remember is. You seemed very outgoing. Was when definitely true so you were definitely outgoing. I remember you thinking putting a lot of activities in which which is why. I'm not surprised to hear that you're Now considered a lot of training. New Things From I mean to me. Boxing as students there I think it's breaking Females books but to hear that one of my one friend is in. It was something like. Oh interesting and then and anyone to the fact that you will start your own glimpse business right so that is also something that I I tried it once but I never thought the is a is a business to sustain your livelihood on so I'm interested to find out more about the lead the on yeah So Yeah I did boxing for quite a bit our stock into boxing not stuggle invention to Bosnia know so as a McCarthy manage in sheltered Municipal Debt. But eventually the coaches there to try. Boxy why not F- was just purely for fitness. I needed to lose weight. So and then yeah and then I get me be Kinda good in it so Microsoft you to just push me through goof off fights So not only on in boxing as the US a fitness counting but eventually I train up to go fights not like professional fi in just amateur boxing fight and yeah you can see the edge. Have my own fair. Share deal off. You know getting punched in the face and punches one. Yeah I think I I want three and I lose one or something. I did. Good Record Maureen loser so what would be okay so first of all. How did you get into the box? Company is marketing manager. Is that your background? Where Your Studies Marketing? No I it. The business review ill identity was working for Cinco for quite a very short wall and then got opportunity from someone who's a Humana working. Boxing Gym because she knew me she has. I think you can. I think you will enjoy this. Please Nord. I rejected that offer and then I do think though and then the dog Kim Kim again and say if he's obviously looking for someone you know at least you go and try again try. Id sort of my foot interviews. That she a boxing class. You Win for boxing to view. Yes I ran down classes I knew Tocado please I get to know the GM get to know the bars blah blah. I'd after the I'm Kinda Okay then. I go for the interview for an extra. Yeah what was interview for books so I came where prepared you know. I wouldn't do it all I think off the cheese land use planning on being. Yeah he's his. Tesa guy so he was kind of impressed by new venture. We talk a buddy then. I agree to the Simpson dead The work throwing them find. Okay then know and he was always can train for free. I don't so yeah. That's one of the books working in boxing gym. Because you get the trine the go between a an android. The classes La. Yeah Yeah but did you. Do you have any books? Ground over any boxing expertise to boxing. I think he asked me whether I'm into martial arts so before boxing I was in side. We meet I missile and before we can do so quite a range of Martial arts love for me Are you still into martial arts right now? Ever since I quit my job in thick Japanese food Photon don't have the time yet law. I do classes here and there but not as full on last time. Yeah so there was your period my my feet spirit of mix you lights superfit because this criteria is when you do martial arts especially when you're into fights new card and then discipline and you're a trian almost five days a week boxing five days a week S. Nc treat time so was a strength conditioning. Legs Jim Ryan. Jim Tillerson wheat since audit so I will replace less time like squads and all that. Because he had to turn up my when I do about Five days boxing to this strength and conditioning. Yeah and then one day like a running the check the check near the trick to the this extra the no I mean in between us. Oh fights in boxing and maybe I do boxing. The morning and evening would be cincy and a fulltime job. These was on top of your marketing. Joke magazine. Job Lies so it was. It was a village for me because I I will do my work. And then when the desert class going our class because he's done I'm back to my job serious so this tweets perfectly of the line you mentioned before we started this call. What was it has no? You would think about grinding right. Biggest grind no has the mid no hassle to see. You should cook dateline. That's right. Diarmid hustle nicely. Nice touch okay. So when you enter the gate. Sorta boxing marketing but I think is pretty straightforward. Was there any new from marketing perspective Actually I learned a lot about marketing when I was working in boxing. Jimmy so there's a lot of things I learned from from scratch. There's not I I'm the only getting Sunday. And then there's not much experience with around. We help me so I have to learn my own. Like how to Ed's how to code those videos From scratch so that. What moved me as a marketing person. Right so you went off. The I left. The job was being feelings marketing on my own and even for my car businesses on remarketing from acquaintances and all of that is because of my foundation island from my thumb during the boxing gym as marketing manager. What kind of marketing is Social Media Marketing? Content Marketing Thing Offline online sheep's whatever. You also NAD. Genie facebook Lyndon Let me pick your brain here. Midday marketing grew. So what would you what your people? Now let's say an individual who's just that that he's podcasting career. What kind of marketing should he do? I think for you. You just need to keep on giving use discount on green. Yeah just keep on doing more podcasts. More use Post your content in a few in a few forms in we became putting ide- naked. Push your facebook. You can create Lyndon posted. There have a youtube channel posted there so that want sauce of oneself container you can spit it out with sober content become contents. Monday from platform as a beacon. A- I mean nobody knows you that will yet right so people need to constantly hear what you're talking about so discontinued reaching out and then get more organic stove. Personality organic growth is better than Bit Growth Because Pete growth is very fast but Maybe the commission is smaller organ griffis slower but conversion is greater Yeah watcher good I like it. Thank you know. Okay Okay. So then nothing so. We'd covered the marketing. Expect now share with me. A bit more about going into the ring is a boxes. Any stereotypes was Did you face any difficulty like I mean I see on? Tv nowadays like they're promoting a lot of them but you have female fighters or one one fighting championship premium. Fight this but what is it like for you when you enter the boxing see? I think for me a amateur by arguing that you mentioned right so yeah and I've actually have feel mushroom background. Say wasn't so difficult for me. I was like you know boxing. And try it. Because it's something I like very the very very rough and I'm very run in trying to get your take on the challenge but as I'm working there right so I free love clients that come in leads that come in right and then the always see that the intimidated by by the whole environment. You know Yeah because when you go my is a is a boxing gym down. So you know. Boxing Gym two types. This fitness kind or renew like no real rewarding gene. Where you go the Alinsky with maybe go fight. An audit by the fitness one is just purely for fitness. You'll see a not Is The is. The is the the reporting Jim that you had to to fight nothing on not that. Yeah Yeah Yeah so most of the poverty heavy that you feel very intimidated and if it cannot be as good enough as what they see. Yeah especially if wants to go into books Jim. Everyone has an shit. You know supposedly the time to talk with them and say no worry. No your time you have to Because ISS- different learning cokes SOM- Excuse some people are very long wall to commit but for me for anyone out there who wants to try martial art of boxing on meet Dia Whatever I think the most important thing is how comfortable you few in the truck crosses so just go to own That's been working jim that you find me on Google. Go for ten. And then you re options and you Let these Jim the WHO actually these. Jim is allowed to coaches the stick to the gym. I go to the gym. That makes you most comfortable and you stick to them with a regime. Thinks of your common in. And if you don't like the place you will you drop your comment. You might go for one month. You said now for one year I see you only have. Yeah so yes. It's very what they need. Let you go to a gym. You lie and you're comfortable relief and you can make friends and then you can feel motivated to go and it is true. In most of the Games I go to our I see is mostly men and then even even lumine what seeing Of Women can do right but why boxing no honestly for me seeing this a lot of a benefit is one hundred percent cardio workout. Strang disciplined loose weight. Make friends even. My Mum Delight me doing boxing because she said Oh what are you doing you such men being you know roquette because boys only do this kind of thing and then for the goes I should be like going for baking. Classes are still in classes or something. You know very sort that. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Is this a voice? Don't do yourself where you in a big drew Type or you just you know when it comes back up to view you know. So what is it about? You did wants to try new things like much. Even though it's you know that there's a stereotype when you have resistance. I think is resistance from your mom. What is it you still want to go for it? I have these motoya alive. La The Edward regret not doing. Oh okay yeah the light if maybe Don't fit into actually I should have done. Boxy should try boxing. I don't be debt in Cairo position so I was young Always have these They might just go for it. Try It you know if I don't try now then later on in life when I wanted to try it when if I have more these water community I can do ya. Yeah even now. I'm I'm so committed with my business. I'm so busy I cannot do boxing. Unity good regret it because I have done it. Yeah Yeah Yeah okay. So what was he like stepping into the ring for the first time competitively second up there being right but I will fight right. It was. Where was it men was did Was it maybe two years ago or three years ago my foot and when was it the venue? I can't remember by Mike. I will fight was for a woman's boxing championship. Amateur ABOVE SABA is for some amateur boxing for women. That was my Yeah Okay and I was fighting at fifty one key yes. I was walking at fifty six K. D. so I had to drop about five G. for my fighter. What class is it Prime the like this is the g What do you need nine? Fifty one fifty four fifty six minutes for ANA was fifty six Dan. You participate in if I do Kiss G. G I'll be facing people who because stronger. Okay yeah I'm fifty six. I'm really this bill a I dropped. I dropped my weight but I can bet. Gained back that with a major deal. Well isn't the we in S- usually one day before these? My limited knowledge of boxing have one day before La to come back. You're you're if I need to lose five K. D. I probably gain back maybe three. Ag didn't day renewed Denka dealer. How do you? How do you recover three? Today is amazing because Oh five digital me that I had a hard time. I need to lose to foggy. I went through this forty eight. Dd Our lights style being all that The thing is get the what do we ma. You do the day before you start fasting to days before I can remember what meetings before La and what your what the mind. What we alone can be who. Yeah Yeah so is quite dehydrate. Lower we go for will be in is right. And then the woman finish finish with We begin our water. What is I and then we start. You think you gain weight before your body feel much like a bit disoriented because you fast it for today's indentity you dehydrated tomorrow in the of then you have all the nutrients your blood vs pumping when you. What if you disoriented during the tighter? I mean when I wanted to take I was because I had to spend more time losing the weight. I'm losing the weight at to train was more tire. You just five gauging cookies. You wasn't do better. Why you love this crazy love kind of the kind of dedication. I really okay so I follow right now. I'm for the heavyweight boxing. See so I like the the tree wants Anthony Joshua and not it. I'm also I also read a couple of comics box unusual emphasize on these weight loss. The cutting of the weeds is it really happening. Like do people really have the dedication to go through that kind of pain in sacrifice so to hear from you. It's like I said I don't know you very well. And then now I understand that you actually met respect for you out. You know those time I'd be like what the hell might weaned but when he comes to fight you still then you feel is they will file anyway experience. You can if I want to go up the Ring Right. That a suit everything. My question is I see an anonymous source review. Our scam cry onto crash up. Panicking to crown to crash was like Microsoft. Will he already? You cannot really you. Just get to go so young Owns I think I had a book to your own three minutes. Okay I think you might go. Rent is going to add you. Four the chimneys to any know Yeah I mean we've been focus. You have to have also late in insane. Because you are consciously punching or you're consciously getting bunch. I did read. Something of a boxing day was interesting. Is it true that boxing is small game of the mind than it is? The physical body to is seated. Boxing is Is a what's called a solo spot? It's not simply as for. It is only one percent you go up. Is this you and episode and no one else? Okay let me get some help. From your coaches stopped dead. But it's your own self inside the when you are doing this a loved one in your hit. No you're thinking about what you have learned. You're thinking about the punches that you want to do is dead and then the point where you are getting oranges Being now we know why should I do? Need a lot of these winning it in your head in every step forward from there is your organization we on even if you lose you lose is you can blame. Everybody else is really is yourself. Are The my game inside during seven. It's is a nothing going on your just exhausted mentally as you are physically correct correct. I mean this is my own experience. I mean I'm William Mitchell boxer. There's a lot more people who are doing professional boxing and stuff like that. Maybe would be for myself what I have. But this is my own opinion on my spirit's while I was in fighting for for gymnast. Did you ever get knocked out? Will I feel nope? Nope J. should run up my where I didn't get knocked out and I didn't get knock someone who's Oh. Yeah so you won't be on the what they call it scoring. Cutter appoints a unanimous decision. Yeah night so yeah so my my my students for my fighter so it was very very scary for me. La even for me know who innovate Goncourt. Everything under threat in the last minute or cry can you so. Yeah it's based gay is basically even fall fall For someone who thinks very debate. The intimidating I was that we you know you just how you overcome bed in all overcome that feel in an estimated that step to stop. The most important thing is to start. What did you like it or you don't like it. There's a second edition by your physician or this. You need to stop. It could be for anything right you when you WANNA start new business unit spot. Obesity just getting started. You know if you fail. Then there's a second second party if Right but you need to start a lot of people focused in this evening. I'm so guilty of this. Even before I started my business I procrastinate that a lot of things and then I have so many ideas in my hit list and I needed a lot to the point. Where Somebody is duty to remind you Yes aloft. I'm war. Have these good to these then. You drag Somebody else men then. There's no longer can be anymore. You know yeah okay so since you started on there. Did you also start businesses? When did you start doing businesses or being an entrepreneur doing nearing? Y'All was being business as our remorse for weekends. Maybe three s back yard. The my business voice sexually a makeup business or doesn't do what you were doing you boxing. You hit a makeup business. Going on I think our with this. My said wants to be onto formula. I want to be my own boss in something on the side business so I just took a business degree and then when I go out From from school okay. That's not the story but give you that. I just initiate this become a police officer. Oh you're three everything you talk with Sir but hours rejected about seven times. I apply until last last last year. Generating my last Straw Kilifi. If the one the one needed do not mean to mindset really is not that I don't try I did try seven times and Mike you thing for me I just stick it like maybe this is a sign. Maybe I'm not meant for this path. You know no matter how much you try. It doesn't go away. Maybe it's not your discipline. I fully concentrated on the Businesses Server. And it is there for the one year years been been very progressively. Gula until and All right so going back to business. Experience you mentioning boxing makeup. Why Yeah I just realized when talking. I'm all over the trial of user. So yeah me up. I just saw it at the dealer because I know someone who's so. I think the anti was. The MANGAM was McCarthy's so I was thinking of a business opportunity. I do not end up on a lot of workshops going on I mean I was even for myself I was. I'm not really into a COUPLA but I want to make up and going online. Linear Youtube doesn't really help for me. So what can help me? If I can attend something you know. I was looking through for classes A very high range of workshop process feel was too expensive. Dude That you a problem too expensive expensive and as a consumer. I was finding something that like a class for me to know because of the problem for me. I don't know how to make up. I want to learn how to make up. I cannot learn online because I just don't get it. I want someone that is me so discipline. I think in every other businesses that you want to do you have to start from. Identify was a problem. You know there was a problem and then you are problem solutions. So you know. What if I'm having this problem? I'm sure there are more people all day. Who's having this same Macedo so taught so I I under the joint venture like. Can we do this makeup shop so I literally did it here in my living in my hawks really yeah in my House? Yeah any was saw. It was big too big bic fed in the morning. Then nothing attending the morning Ends it so looking Monday to Friday and Saturday Sunday. Do the business again our just day to help you know. I don't know anything about me on the thing. Is I just run the show? I just do not stay adjusted a marketing just the customers but the one who did it is my is my business. Partner Noah the makeup on that it was very good for a couple of months until a point where When choosing partners as it can get difficult if envisions cooker Thing that that I want to go ahead with and accepting things Deputy party is. I'm not agreeable to the parties things like that so we just didn't continue that. So then you. Then that's when I go to the Knicks Business Opportunity Knicks once. They couldn't anyone out there who have the skills of makeup. You should really go in and and no you don't every right you you have used for yourself if you can money Tyson skew. Why not your I know that Something people don't have the skills Don't have the marketing skills. The have the the the the key for putting makeup skill. But you don't know how to monetize to market their business. Will you can find someone who is good in the an up and then leverage on each other and then you can start so needed. It was my my my step so I was looking for ideas and stuff like that. I wanted to stay on beacon process as well Find I couldn't find someone who can work well with me for the became class so I just want to send it to start. A business is not that difficult People always say is capital is. The capital is the capital but honestly Will do it. Kapika will attorney can find you go five hundred four from from someone that five hundred is enough to study business to business. Yeah of course as small small business those open up and yeah. Yeah so yeah if you if you have these skills. Makeup is very lucrative. I'm telling you is very lucrative for my own. Experience is very lucrative. This a lot of people out there who are looking for for for these programs Shops in it. But I mean people let me so. Are you open people contacting us to be banished from the marketing side show Okay so you guys whoever's listening if you guys get into the market makeup seem sheriff. I can help you guys out. Yeah Ken show. I'm always pushing people start business if any of my friends. A deduct that something. I'm so happy know now auto by their dogs but by Dr. Because yeah it's is again for someone who have Sheep the ginny come from year is is very different. From having a nine to five job very nutrient and fulfillment and dissatisfaction. That you you receive. It is very different even though you buy them. But maybe you're not to five you earn. Maybe it kid can key again. But you'll be snow. You probably in five Casey ski but you not stress. You enjoy what you do. You have more time for your family. If more time for yourself the thing that you sacrifice for to enjoy more things though right for me I I agree. I totally agree with you. But this entrepreneur journey entrepreneurial journey for me the thing that stands out for me is actually the lending about myself. But it's the if something's not going right in the business is something that is down to you so like if you know marketing is not doing so well is probably something that you're not doing. Right is the fact that you're not consistent in your marketing skills. Is it that your marketing is not a direct contact that you're putting out you know then there's also time management skills is also the fact that you're not going out enough to meet. New People so everything. Why findable entrepreneur and entrepreneurs everything boils down to you and what results you basically what you do if you don't do anything you don't get any result if you think then you get results so to me was very interesting because it's totally different from the nine to five job that you mentioned nine to fire. Even if you don't do anything you probably get eventually you'll stick it. You still get your result. Which is the allowed to get? Entrepreneurship is a totally different ballgame. And so for me. It's it's the Jenny of discovering yourself in getting to know like what your strings the very interesting for me correct correct England saw much about yourself model still Ulan Mobile in. You're right troop may from for you from being an entrepreneur. Sofa might biggest. Tickle me Honestly these Johnnie. Everyone see is is good but is not easy. is easy. Everyone would be doing a group and a lot of up and down Indus Genera is just how you how many times you fall. How you yourself in this journey you're GONNA be hit to meet Amino Aloft. I'm GONNA hit over and over and over again and not everyone can take this sub you will think once or not for me one three for me by going to hit you ten twenty them able to get back up and out again instead again. So isn't it something like character ability keurig building? This correct discuss Syra into panels. Think reduced For independence. Yeah so what's your best characteristic for being in Trivia The For me I tried not to take no for an answer if something good if there's an it I should not take no ignore answer. You know if somebody comes to me with obesity okay. Why not? Let's talk it over and see whether we can work things out and then go for it if if it's not good for me now for my business then there's a second story is the first thing for me than what my character deadman signal for for Knows WE IN ONE. You will find no always tried to like look at your seat you anything that can benefit me or my business that we can work them for me is being by arguing that you say everyone knows me as auguring Young I is this the correct thing sale because I think outgoing helps you to be more adventurous. Yeah Yeah and then the Lee is. You've over severence no. I had to fill businesses. That didn't you know that I didn't go to all the way we did. And I'm this is my good business that I started again. An umbrella is figuring will. I mean I was hot. Voice your very hot in is as we are to woman going. East Coast Beating mid June. Yeah so when I feel is literally. Hoti no is really very difficult and it was hot off. And then you just keep on Nearing and then we start to see the fruits of second wits Zoya. Let's north one answer. Don't take no for an answer. Again is off my second going and is yeah so you mentioned that. I hear it was rough. I think a lot of entrepreneurs people who are doing startups are going through that especially right now we did. So what was your mindset like being just two people heavy to set up for the first year itself. What what was it that drove you to continue to keep going. Was it that you such believe in the idea was going to be successful Partly yes I think if you don't believe in You don't believe in your services in the first place should start. The business drew from you. And I thought that the business plus Bayer Glenn so my Business Glenn Business. Right now right. So don't follow. Who was limping. Essentially glamorous camping so you see you east coast. Boggled push his his those light triangle white or Beige Catanzaro Limping dance is not owned by one company. That's about five or six companies right now doing limping services and I'm one of them so my company's wondrous limping Ambi around for two years. Yeah there was tradition for being caught up in your introduction. What what was it kept you going during that first year when he was stuff also again with the C Howard. We've talked about limping. Yeah I am signing saw. Because I'm Young. I'm very very adventurous. so seconds wasn't sec. So I do a look at things. I don't carry my go. We'll pitching in schools or But I remember being very uncomfortable so like yours had to sleep on. The ground is very high. He was very hot. It's by enjoyed experience Yeah no pitching but the which is a very nice experience is very different from from By wanted to make it more comfortable for people that I came upon this idea of lamping. Hud such a cool idea you know and affected when took a body not people nobody even do? The first ever company has been around for. I think but department was trees. Revilla were for three years. We did not talk to so many people still don't miss. I find opportunity I This had for three years and they still don't student more push not to be done Oh yeah so what I did someone. What was very drastic someday okay. I'm going to limping business in one man. I got everything together and I start. Find everything in one month. What was it like always like? So I do love research I see either companies. What they do what they was the was the process lie. You know have to. And then I'll do all the all the auto buying all one shot. And then he's off from China attend but about I started then this loss thing that we do not know the place. I don't know how many I don't know how many fans I've trite. No I think the OH friends update. Today we changing the bit. The amateurs using A kid interesting okay. Dev- trailing Erica. There's a look areas when you do a business business. Oh because you you you do know what your country planet in your. You plan okay. He's going to be like this behalf. You think he's not working so new it'd be so the how is love? There's enough was that they always think. How are we going to bring these two a yeah? Richardson Slip. Why how you? And then you found his metro trying all different mattresses couple of so So yeah this law logistics reasons behind business in figuring what how an Things to do so. The idea of limping is an fashionable achey. These vape a passion about Your Business or fashionable. Your product official service is. What GonNa help you to Pacific Ocean available that you'll love the either you love camping. You look limping. You want other people to experience. It was my mean mean mean idea even in business in our say oh. I love camping so much. I want one more people to experience these especially nowadays pizza. It don't go camping anymore. Yeah people are with addition can being this. When you're when you're doing camping you know things you go cycling. Swimming fly barbecue when I can do a lot of things that treasure high in all that so I wanted to do get recreate this experience of fall for my consumers for my customers. Yeah having Betaine in providing fans or reading a bid you know applebees like booking for your and if you WanNa do a kitchen August Services net mix your costumers. Experience much better. So what keeps me going is? One is my passion. Secondly is maximus so as more people. Norberg limping is more people. Experience limping. pushing me on and the fact that when when. I knew extra money for Mackenzie McRae's own. Thank you so much appreciate you this when you you get satisfaction fictional unlike this. Why do too because I do it for them and again the FBI satisfy heavy mice obese. And I'm happy as well. So you mentioned something about Wondrous glimpsing having having its own identity sharing their identity for promotion. I think are as is We always believe that what shows for his aesthetics overestimating venue of the tiny Because every company has their own design every company has their own. Our I know so we have these particular uh aesthetic value that we give to that showcases. He is always very food. Innova vibrant an and the Always very vibrant WanNa go for. Every relies our audiences. Our customers does differ. Different degrees loose will go fall for Mike. Limping company really values at value. Coker because limping desk companies is a fuel companies. Right some For those who findings Some who have the money can spend luxury Lee on a more expensive limping. So for me. It's more for the masses something affordable and for value. GonNa let you go there. You only have been you know. Bid One of an-an-a-and. Oh me really into your get colorful beats for you In it was most more. Tiny Land Waikele pin being to really make like a rube of course. Of course Roy I. I know people asking me what I have very like. Yes we do have fairy lights and we have a light and then some one outside the are then you know and they want to we and they WANNA s wow. There's a lot of things that people requests idea maybe share with share with me because I'm curious now. What's the process? Like when they say I want to book clamping experience because this is still also still quite relatively unknown experience for many into it yet. I don't know about the will. But at least for Singapore so like what was the process of the journey like forecaster different company is very threatened but for my company is if you go to one just limping website. You just need to fill up the foam and then we will continue from. They'll hookah specifically customized for each customer. Yeah it's customized for each customer by the booking form is very basic like did you on a book read. It is any occasion. Spec PACKAGE YOU WANNA choose you know. Feeling the basic one and after customize for Gyula maybe you see you do you somewhat things or you want to add more things or you want. Some things are also As amazing yes. And there's another point. I don't think he did a customizable. Yeah okay also like this new package of since this. Is this a fixed peckish late? All of us have feast packages at Peckish. E bookish be picky see but was not E you at on some stuff we can do for you or British. Any Is a flower for some black How I'd one flower car. You buy a box of chocolates instead. Yes we can for you defensibility around so long. So people have more choices you see right but then oh. I'm sorry I only look so. This is basically your. Nisha is willing to be affordable for customers in for basically your aesthetic identity. Is Your Niche Right Very cool I look forward to try. Need once this breaker passes so how's is okay so this is the thing though. I'm also wondering for blimpy. Experience is it overnight. So what was he like? A Wendy thing is is is overnight but it's up to the client nasty for the Khokar also usually. You're you're by an overnight book England of. Yeah we just launch a Glam Nick is Glenn Ping Picnic so the one is a six hour Jewish in a hospital for didn't so you have picnic set up inside. The tenor is is basically for those people who wants to do picnic but wants to be the shelter. Glenn will you know when you mention the defense earlier about the experience I did have so I remember because he was supposed to be A? What do you call the thing when my sister was going to get married in India but advisement mature but that one so me and my cousins were organising sister and then we got the you are somewhere during you be in much la basically so the weather was really hot and we had no idea that the tense the site of the tense could be rolled up? No so we were all stuffed in. You're trying to surprise in the heat outside. It was crazy. The Fan wasn't working and then we were all boiling to death in these out. We were all sweating. Lenore this you literally dying so now that I hear this. Another limping company owed ended the scale of all the needs best day. Be a threat again after expedients over with this. Okay wh I think we covered a lot? Today we went into sink in an Ryozo. Covered your Journey so anything else you WANNA share. I got nothing else. Basically on my side I think I picked the your brain enough all my questions. I've runoffs doping Things that I wanNA see about Independence Sheba once studied Met THE WATER. Going to talk good albeit. If it's good of course you think your accompaniments and people support I have. A few friends are very supportive. We don't you think it but you're going to be people we're GONNA put you down you doing you know. Not even those who are close to me Families or close friends. We'll be asking me. Why are you doing these? I think better. If you find a fulltime job Should because his job is hot they see as I do it but it was the enjoy this right now and then is like no matter. What you do it people going to talk about you buy you buy a pussy. Never by Blue Cup know you had to find a job. Why do you do business name? We do not five five so the main thing you just need to Pocock Edina or you just need to does shut yourself you the good the goodwood the one you just shut it off. Yeah because if I have listed due to the Dose Bet Bet comments or bit. I wouldn't be here so when I wanted to leave my job right. Someone's committees is not always going to be on our stay listeners. Now a go for this fulltime and then USA. The me is not always been under. The site. Modernising is that it is always under the site if you know how to take the opportunity true. Yeah so whatever people say about you don't just if if his bed to listen to them if he's good ticketing go And then if you haven't T and then you're thinking you WanNa start or not I'll see will really deliver. You want to even think about it. People do this. No start dating body but the thing about the things they do not. I was there once again. What the law. Even before I started thinking your feed this kind of Pablo I am. I WANNA do Gertrude. This you know and my able to am. I able to overcome this. You know people always thinking of the negative things first before depositing And then we wait and that's when your pocus nation so I think if you have an idea you just stopped leap. You know if you believe in your at least not believe your product at least to Bolivia so vs how he goes after. That is another question because once we start the problems that come after you can find solutions but you never thought you can never find a solution studios public because he never happen. You don't even know about this program drain because he never start even for you. I know you stop focusing. You may face problems you may face. grew business. But there's a problem when you to do you just need to find out how to grow business or you find someone who can help you grow a business if you don't post this focusing. I won't be here and you. We have problems. Go nobody to tell me how to grow. My Business in Europe is true. I have the media is a good point. I think it's very important point for all people. Everybody who is trying to do. A startup will begin entrepreneurship. All right. Thank you. Thank you very much for sharing element. I'm oris is is really great. What you call it episode is really great so I really enjoyed this light. You even touching things that I'm really interested in boxing. And he got me interested now into limping to find out more about it. So thank you very much for taking the time on this Friday evening late Friday evening and for we think we hit the finish what I do I do Salah. I realize a lofty that. Discover so aside up more about myself but yeah maybe you should start. A podcast can be Biden's you know you know you never seen no streeter era. Were okay since you mentioned Starting podcast as well. I'm starting a podcast. Purdue interested to the staubach right at the end. I'll be putting small on how you can start a podcast. So you interested. Just stay onto the end S For this episode. Once again I just want to say. Thank you very much for your time for sharing your experiences. I think he's been very deep inciteful I really loved the chat. I have to be on this but this is really really fun. So thank you so much anything malicious. Amin just WanNa say thank you to you as well. Thank thank you to this listening in. I hope it benefit you guys us in one way or another spy you guys in one way or another something. 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#ICYMI - Womens Boxing, with World Champion Alicia Ashley

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#ICYMI - Womens Boxing, with World Champion Alicia Ashley

"Helps star talk win a webby award boat now at star talk radio dot net slash web. He's. I'm Gary Riley up. Nice. It's he's playing with. We had the privilege of speaking of boxing legend Sugar Ray, Leonard, which was such a pleasure and a big deal for the plan with science family. So it's only right to share the stage with the women because some seriously heavy hitters for you, and Astro physicist and a professional boxer. Yes. At Frederica Bianco, golden gloves hall of Famer and world champion a leash. Ashley and boxer trainer entrepreneur and relentless pissed and founder of boxing and barbells one and only carry Williams so round one Chuck who's I in the ring right now, we get to speak to boxing's bad ass. That's right. We're talking professional boxer and astrophysicists Frederica Bianco. How are you? I'm good. You bring the world of boxing and astrophysics together. What a perfect it's like you were made for playing with science, right? It really does sound like much may have really does. So let me ask you. You know? When you look at the cosmos, and you look at you look at the ring are there any areas of boxing and astrophysics that overlap in such a way where the to inform one another or that, they're very similar. No, I mean hired to say that they will be very similar course Dame for each other. For me. Both of them have to do a lot with like, my confidence and my self awareness, and my ability to like sort of analyze things, and I learned from one in from the other, and I bring back and forth the experience of one and the other in the boxing ring. My my name any name is the mad scientist. So wish I could say that I'm like really in analytical and scientific boxer non at hard. I'm really really a brawler. But did the skill in the sports is that of like staying calm? And I don't know. So that's fair. Frederica is correct. You were dancer as well. As a martial artists before you became a boxer. I was I was not in the sense that I was not a professional dancer, but that's how I started. Yes. Night half to the ring came through dancing, and then Caparo which is sort of it then since tire martial art. And then boxing, you knew Alicia actually was once a dancer. Oh, yes. And and and when we spoke with Sugar Ray, Leonard he talked about the choreography he talked about how is adults and it's. Silence. And that actually is really a keep on that people might not think it might not come through as we are aware that in the ring. But at least as far as I myself, but I know that stools released like you also want to think about it as a performance. Right. Absolutely. So now that you said that since its performance, and it requires a great deal of concentration. It would seem like boxing, just take so much concentration. Almost to the point where you've got to have tunnel vision and block out so many other things. And since it's a performance. So does being scientists give you an edge in terms of that concentration since like the scientific disciplines requires so much concentration and kind of just training your thoughts in one direction. Would you would you would you say that's the case or have you ever thought about it? So I think no, I think about the things the law, really. But I think that the tendency and the training in problem solving is helps me sort of thinking about martial arts in that way. So that perhaps were a little more clearly in the training than what you're actually I think because when you fighting don't get me wrong. Like, it is like a puzzle that you're trying to solve right? How do I take advantage of the things they upon my parent? He's in to get an edge. It might not be Agios. When one is fighting because he's looks like very chaotic from the outside. But as you said, you really need to be sharply. Focused and on the inside. It is like service surprisingly calm plays. I've heard it from some other boxers describing how things sort of happened in flow motion, whether fighting, and you kind of have very part of you is kind of like very unethical in Kalman cold observing. What is happening which is? Of course, not what it looks like when you're you know, you have somebody who's trying to take your head off. Luke brings I say when I was reading before we get to speak today, you describe yourself, and I love this as a student of life and say that you see boxing as a mind clearing experience. You can have to explain that more. Please. Right. So just what I said about the fact that it's all about being collected and called inspire on the chaos around. You. Imaginative in that sense. Very nice. Yeah. So let me ask you. This was it. I mean for women, boxers, which I see the boxing has really grown in popularity because of the training, and the workout. So every seems like every Jim now has has a boxing workout that that they offer. But you need so much more than that. When you're training for a fight and steel sharpens steel, so how do you find your sharpener in a sport where there's not that many participants let the very good point? So when I started boxing in California was in Santa Barbara, and there were far fewer opportunities with women in Barbara. So it was regularly starring with guys, and you know, there's there's advantages to that guys tend to be faster their punches and to be a little bit more stinging. So that kind of gives you an edge. But also there's these advantages because they're sort of the level of intensity and the competition is a little bit different given there is already like a well known and our knowledge difference in the mind, the people that are aspiring in New York. It's it's kind of a blessing that there are many women. So, you know, I'm Lisa because I started sparring with her when she was getting ready for a fight. We all know each other. We all Spar with each other. You very often end up fighting people that you certainly know and that sometimes they you have sparred with of course, they're only as good as you know, as as you can be one as the people that train. Really, right. You just it's not in individuals for this in spite of what it looks like it's very much a team sport and your training partner. Your sparring partners are very much part of the team interesting. So what would you say to anyone not just women? But. Anybody who's interested in boxing that might inspire them to try it? So I think. As you said, it's getting more and more popular because of the fitness that is involved. It is a tremendous fitness exercise, it really tops on a lot of things like sort of, you know, a lot of parts of your body are involved. So it's a very healthy exerciser like pull your entire physiology. There's a lot of courage to you. And also there is the aspect of the focus which makes it more intriguing than just doing physical exercises as far as boxing competitively or how getting in the ring everybody, you know, you people that train boxing should try because in my experience is the feeling about it is very different than one expects it to be. And it goes both way. I've heard people say like, you know, I'm sharing login just for training and be like, no because I want to become a professional boxer. So I see my trajectory like three years I want to be professional and getting punched in the face. I realized how big mistake that was that. They did not. And all have anything to do with that. But at the same time people that do not think of themselves as fighters that do not think of themselves as a recipe or competitive in that way, really he's in. That's not the feeling that you have inside the ring. So it has a very different feeling from the inside reminded from the outside. And I've seen people that never thought they would like just fall in love first bunch. I mean, I must ask you for Rekha. Just how tough is it in the women's boxing sane because it's it's nowhere near on par with the men's side of the sport. So how tough is it for the business side, everything all of it? So well, let's say it's getting better. But he begins with you'll get a find a trainer that wants to train you. So somebody that believes that women Campbell's. The everybody believes that women can should box. Also is a bit of an all school for and so not every trainer is even considering training woman. And then if you wanna talk seriously like if you have rations of becoming professional, it's as you head find the trainer that is really selfless because it's not a lot of money. So it's not like they're going to make a living out of a woman box that it's just right now, it's not happening. So you had to find the trainer that does it because they love and because they like you and. Once you pass that in something. That obviously people ask me. But the Rouge would ask you to any woman. Professional boxer is how do you do two jobs because near all women professional boxers also have a job, generally, it's not astro-physics but make no mistakes. Very few women can sustain themselves we've boxing, and if they do that they sustain themselves with boxing by also train other people at such and the two jobs is not the problem. The problem is the third job that must be to do of finding themselves fights overpaid opportunities and traveling for spurring and finding in just a nervous about the letter study takes to get contracts and just be sort of. Be taken seriously that is third job. And that's the hardest. One of them is it as is it quite simple just to say, the solution would be if there were more money in the sport. I don't think we need more women to get paid better. Sure. Yes. So if there was if there was a big purse for for instance, if there was more money on offer for the fighters, then the trainers would get more money than you probably get better train. Is it simple as that? Or is it more? Is it more nuanced? No, I think it's more new us. I think you know, it kinda like goes back to women's Ford altogether. There is a in perception that that's not something that people want to see the level of the performance. And I think that perception is in my experience is largely wronged people. You know, there's not a lot of fights on TV. But the women that are now there are many more fight on TV than before. And those fights are watched with high ratings. But also every time you go to show like, you know, as mall club show in queens, or whatever. And there's a women fight. You all the time. The women fight was the most interesting about of. Night because currently may be because it's so hard to get to the point where you finally have a fight. They are now going to phone in. You're just like your heart in it. Because it's a hard way up. So so that might be part of the reason, but women fights are always entertaining. They're always like. You know, going down ho and just really working hard at that. So now, you know, so female fighters in MMA, they seem to have become a lot more popular. What is it about? Do you think MMA that makes the female fighters so much more popular in MMA? No, it's just the fact the exposure. I mean, I mean Dana want has started. I'll say like no women women a number. If I remind in the they just just not going to do that. And then he changed his mind to women on cards. The company fights watched people like them. He put more women on Kurds made a business decision that just worked. I think it would work for boxing and business were the starting to see that right, obviously Clarissa is televised. More televise every every fight. But there are many other fighters that get some less, but some exposure. All the recruits from the the first Olympic canes with women from it's changing anything is actually change him for few not for sort of like the bulk of women, boxers. Hopefully, it's just a matter of time crew. So it's just a matter of exposure how long because some some of the some of the women have been waiting awhile. Now, if you think about a leashes age, which I won't mention because she will punch my lights out, but she she had to wait a while for for things to come away. I mean, how long do you think and every time she needs to get a fight? It's you know, it's hard to get a five and she's late longtime in between fights she never fought in Jamaica, which is her hometown. And I know that that was a really big desire of hers. So I don't know how long and I think you know, there's all the restore a bubble. There were bubbles of women boxing in the past Christie Marteen later, the Sierras was one of my. Key people in the whole white word, and then the bubble bursts and women were law boxing on TV for another fifteen years. So hopefully, this is not a bubble. But it's hard to say a longs. Frederica? Thank you so much for being our guest away. I have one more coins. One more. I got. All right. One more time. Let's do it. Here. We go. You're an astrophysicist what planet would you love to fight on and what planet which you hate to fight on. Oh, okay. I really don't wanna fight on Venus 'cause it's hot up there. Doesn't fighting in in sauna doesn't sound good at all. How about Sachin we can have between ring particles all the particles that make during and just you know, have one fight on each one of them. It's a different kind of ring right on. That's right. Now about that for a little bit of logic from monitoring to another Frederica began coach thank you so much for being August on playing with. Thank you so much the Astro physicist. Who is also a professional boxer. Yeah. That's that's just quite a combination. We are going to take a break next up Kerry Williams. The boxer the train the Olympic level trainer. Entrepreneur and philanthropist. Yeah. That's going to be another great interview. And of course, forget we have a leash Ashley coming up as well. Stick around with. Okay. Let's face. It star talk is never going to be nominated for an Academy Award. But when it comes to the internet who cares about the Oscars. It's all about the webbie's baby. And guess what star talk has been nominated for a web e in the best science and education podcast category. Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Please hold your applause until we actually win. Speaking of which the web is our the people's voice, which means you gotta go vote people. Just go to start talk radio dot net slash webbie's to vote for star talk to win best science education podcasts now through April eighteenth. We couldn't do what we do. Without you our fans, and we certainly can't win our first webby. If you don't go vote. Remember, go to star talk radio dot net slash webbie's to vote. I can hear it now. And the webby goes to Chuck nice. I mean star talk. Yeah. That's it starts off wins the webby. That's that's what I'm talking about. Welcome back to playing with science. He's been speaking to Frederica being co astrophysicist and professional books. Now, it's time to take a slightly different turn into the world of women's boxing. This is Kerry Williams this time, former Olympic Starbucks Olympic level, boxing, coach boxing club, bona, cover model speaker entrepreneur for them to past and behind boxing barbells, and the brand never to pretty and never to pretty movement. Hashtag never to pretty movement so lady with no much time in hands. Yeah. Windy, you sleep. Larry my goodness. What are you just take a cat nap between the hours of six and six thirty logical? All right power naps. I have to ask you. Well, personally attracted you to the world of boxing. Well, it kind of backwards story when I got out of college actually have environmental science degree. So yeah. But I grow up. I was always an entrepreneur, you know, saying mistletoe door to door whenever I didn't want to work for the government. I did it for the year out of college. And this isn't for me. I can't sit in a cubicle. I wanna own my own business. And I wasn't sure what that was going to be and I had a friend in high school, and he was professional boxer. And he would always tell me. Oh, you know, I go to the boxing gym. But there's no treadmills there's no weights, and then people will try to come into the boxing gym to work out or just pushed away because you either came in there to be a fighter or you to train. So I thought well, there's no gyms out. There were the average person walk off the street, and just you boxing, workout. But really learn boxing like legitimately learning. So I said I'm going to open a gym. And. Yeah. And back then the internet really wasn't like it is now this was twenty years ago. And so I went and bought a book called business plan for dummies, and I wrote a business plan, and I went to a Bank, and I got a small loan. I got an SPA loan. That's a long story but opened for sponsorship in nineteen ninety eight. And so I had never boxed before I actually was not even into fitness. I was terrible. If you know I hated piggy. And was not an athlete. I was more academic girl. The straight a girl the scholar not release Galler. But we I was smart. And so that's what I'll started a. Let me just take a second. I gotta gotta rewind this tape just back to a little bit and go right back to the statement. I sold mistletoe door to door. Okay. Because by the way, I tried that. And people just said get outta here. You're. They'll be a reason for that. Chuck. What those on it baby. That's it could be. But no seriously. I read a couple reviews about ill. And here's what they pretty much all said. This woman is awesome. She doesn't teach you how to get into shape. She just teaches you to box and getting into shape is the result. Is that is that just your philosophy is that? Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Obviously, I'm passionate about this. Or it's my love and respect the sport entirely. So into somebody comes to say, oh, I just wanna lose weight or I just wanna get shave. And I heard boxing's a great way to do it. You're gonna learn how to fight whether you seven the viewing or you don't it doesn't matter. You're gonna learn the same way train off my fighters. So that is my philosophy at training while that's really cool. That's really I must ask you sort of poacher gun gamekeeper seeing how different is it from being the fighter to being the trainer. Well. You know, being a fighter is I was a trainer before I was a fighter. So again, it's pretty backwards. So I the gym busy I needed to help on the floor. So I became a coach. And then after that I thought was kind of hypocritical to be a coach and never stepped in the boxing ring. And you know, I can't be hitting print. So then I started to compete now stepping into the ring was little easier for me as far as the nerves because being outside of the ring and having a fighter in the rain. You get very nervous for that athletes. And so a lot of that was taken away from me. So I stepped in the ring I wasn't as nervous and being in the ring is when you do it over and over again, it's like being in a slow motion movie. Like, you're in a movie everything is slow down. Joe countries coming at you. They look they appear to becoming slowly. So that you can react the naked eye outside. The ring is looking and going. Wow, that's really fast. But you're seeing it like. And that was quite an experience it's very strategic obviously to rain chance in the ring coaching outside of the ring is super rewarding. I find coaching more rewarding than than competing because competing for me coaching is for somebody else. And being able to do something for somebody in change somebody's life in a really positive way that I mean, you can't put money on by the way, I see punches coming in slow motion, but they land anyway and ends up. It ends up being shot where the guy's cheek collapses under the fist, and then the blood spurts get. Yeah. You know that shot. Yeah. That's the money shot. Okay. Let's go. Let's go back to the slow motion Peckham power movie boxing. Oh, you know. I will train your mind cause icon can't for one second. These things are slow, right? It's it's just not. I can't get my head. But you must be training your mind to facilitate how you kind of distort the time to slow these down. You know, what I think it comes from controlling your adrenalin and show you doing something repetitively over and over again. And then you're in that situation that fighting situation in your face. You verse, you know, when you're first training your starring inviting your yard a lot of adrenaline right from his trying to crap at you. Doing it over and over. Again, you start to learn how to control that into. Now, you're not just very anxious nervous. It's more of a relaxed thing. And so for some reason it slows everything down like inertia, maybe so it's very interesting. That's pretty why isn't it? That's pretty wild. So what was the hardest thing? What what for you is the hardest that Specht of boxing. You said you started to coach first and then went into the ring yourself. But what was what is for? You the hardest aspect as a fighter as a coach. He's rule bows. Z as a fighter the hardest thing for me, those two things one is I don't like to get hit. The other thing is that. The training is so hard for competition. I don't like running and you have to do a lot of running conditioning. I don't mind sprints. But I don't like the the conditioning of the longer runs. So. Yeah, I don't I didn't really like that part of it. I love the part of being in the ring and being strategic. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna faint I'm gonna make them do this. And then I'm going to counter this that was really enjoyable to me, coaching wise does not a lot that. I don't like about it because I'm in control of it. So if it's repetitive in its competition. Then it's always rewarding to see them. Do something gazillion times than they finally get it a, but I mean as far as coaching can't really say that there's anything I don't like about it. Will you talk about stamina and training and that endurance? Are there any other things that you can do aside from running for instance? I have terrible knees. I can't run at all. What if I've not speaking as a fighter just picking a layperson of regular person? What if I wanted to build up stamina what else could I do other than running at which puts pounding or your knees? I would say probably getting in the pool and doing sprint work in the pool. You know, other than that. That's right work has to happen. I've never honestly tried it with somebody who has had such issues to where they couldn't do the work. But I would I would rather that you know, 'cause they're fighters. Like, I don't know that get in the ring there. Just like, listen, my knees are shot. So I'm just saying, oh, Chuck you'll find any excuse. I mean, we always say like a fighter with excuses, not really fighter, you know. So and I have a similar saying I have a similar saying and that saying, I'm not really a fighter. That works out. Hey, so listen, you're you to all this other stuff. I mean, and before we started the show here. I was talking to you about something that I saw in line about you. And it's called the weight loss show, which I thought was just incredible now full disclosure. I didn't get a chance to look into it the way I wanted to. And so I thought you had had a baby because you. You had all these great like shots of you beforehand, and you're like all cut up and look great, and like super fit, and then all of a sudden, you were like, overweight and out of shape. And there you were and they were all of a sudden like fifth again. So what was that weight loss? So what was that all about L is called fit to bat fit and the permits of the show on lifetime? I think it's on Amazon or Netflix now, but the premise is that you gained much weight as you as a trainer as a trainer inventory. Did you can't have or months, and then lose all of that weight for months now, the reason to do that was that you were to have a friend or family member who needed to lose a lot of weight. And so the idea was that you kind of step into their shoes. So that you can understand what it's like to work out and lose weight and the challenges that you face as an overweight person. So that's why did the show. It took a lot of coercing for them to get me on the show because I really did not want to get wait. But it's funny when I did gain away people thought I was pregnant, but they wouldn't say anything because they were like, but then after I lost. They're like, oh my God. I thought you were pregnant all time. So. I'm one of those idiots. Yes. There you go. I that's exactly what I did. So let me ask you. So now, you're a little bit more empathetic to people who have gained weight, and you've had the experience like documented, psychologically. Okay. Because I think a lot of weight loss is psychological, so psychologically, what's the best. Vice you can give to somebody who's struggling right now to like, I wanna look better. I wanna feel better. And I can't seem to do it. It is all mental strike, no matter who it is how much weight you need to lose wearables are. It is all in your head. So in till you get your mind, right? You will never ever get your body. Right. Damn body. Your mind wrong. No, it's really just mental really really is. And you have to set at in your head. It's like, you know, when they say when you hit rock bottom. And all of a sudden, you're boom, I'm going to do it a going to deter me you have to get to that point. And you have to be strong, and you have to have will power, obviously. But all those things it's just in your head, and you have to just do it. And I know it's like well. Oh, we'll isn't there easier way. Is there a trick is in there? Some magic fairy dust I put on me in. It's gonna help me figure it out. There's really not it is if you really want it, then you do it. So I mean, that's what I got out of the whole thing. You can what can you do? I my friend who who is a really close friend of mine. She had a lot of way to lose. We worked on her losing the way and she lost a lot of away. But there were I mean, the show's all about drama, right? I mean, there was some drama throughout that process. Because there were so many times where she was just well, I really wanted or you know. Oh, well, and then she would have an excuse us. Why she couldn't get to the gym? So it's really you have to be dedicated to what you want. It's your life. Right. If that's your goal, then you have to make those struggles vices to get their amazing. How many times on this show that same thing just keeps coming up from all these athletes everybody we talked to Gary was a professional footballer. And you know, it just seems like this is just the theme that just runs through every single thing that has to do with with what sports and fitness. Again doesn't change now on your head. Well, there's plenty of room up there in mind. I must staus Q. Why? Wii the sort of box is the boxing regime exercise program. So attractive to women. Well, I truly believe that it's because it's impounding. I mean, it is a lot of very fearful to to come to like when I opened my first boxing gym twenty years ago. It was open to everybody. But it was still mostly men that were coming in. And it was really a challenge to get those women to take that step in very scared of it. Oh, people are just hitting each other. You know, there's this idea that you know, when even to watch boxing, people go there, just hitting each other. It's brutal. They don't see the the beauty behind the or know they don't see the science on this or they don't see all of that. They just see two people in their hitting each other. So it was challenging at first to get women in. And now, you know, as we started coming into this or then we get more media coverage in and then women go. Oh, wait, she can do it. You know, they look at somebody who might be petites or or whatever very feminine they go. Wow. She's in there and she's bad ass in. I wanna be that. And so it really helps to bring more women into the sport. And then once they taste it forget about it. You know? That's it. You know, they're bee's. Like, it's it's a superpower makes you feel really strong as a person in general, it makes you feel -ccomplish d-. And that's why I truly believe in teaching the sport not just as workout because for sure Bill -ccomplish, you do a great workout. But how much more complex you feel when you actually learn how to throw proper punch you learn how to slip shot you learn a combination that's realistic to the game. So it is super rewarding. Before we go, and we will be going shortly. I'm sorry to say your philanthropy work. How does that come about? And does that still have its roots in boxing? Well, kind of does man used to have a nonprofit north where we work with a lot of youngsters in the boxing road. Of course, a lot of kids who couldn't afford training, traveling Spence's for tournaments that sort of thing. Now, I have a the two pretty ban. We have a nonprofit also. So it's female empowerment branch who is really kind of bringing those girls into themselves. They go I'm girl, but I can do anything. I want to do I'm not I'm not in this gender box. So to speak. So I work with that. It's it's a movement more so than it is anything else in. It's really just kind of a message to send to the young girls. You know as far as more flood. I mean, I've done a lot of it up. -solutely I didn't knocking out abusively tour in the country and work with medical students for a whole month teaching him boxing. So I have done a lot of that right now, it's more. So just kind of being that person that's on social media than courage in the young girls in the women to do whatever they wanna do regardless of what gender they are. That is cool. Yeah. And I think the more people that take that baton and run with it the better, and it's a fabulous message. And I think the people we've been speaking on this show exactly the kind of people that they can look up to and the work. You're doing will Ma-maybe increase those numbers, and you know, the world of boxing will find people come out of your classes or classes like that an actually pick up the gloves and step into the ring for real. Yes. Absolutely. It's a beautiful sport. That's the sweet science. There you go. So we're gonna take another break. Thank you to the wonderful carry Williams. An insight into another stream the world of boxing now. Coming up next a Welsh champion and golden gloves hall of Famer, none of the militia actually, I'm going away. I see. Joining us. Now is the leash Ashley WBZ female world super bantamweight champion. And this this blows me away the youngest of chess grandmaster, MAURICE, Ashley and former world kickboxing champion, Devon, Ashley. You're a multinational holder when it comes to boxing. So we'll take focus and bring it onto you world champion still what drew you they'll world's happier. A world champion baby. You gotta love it. Come on feels good. When like, okay, I have a friend. His name is Judah Friedlander. He is a comedian. And he wears a hat that says world champion on it and his whole thing people and people used to say when he was on stage. Like, what are you the world champion, maybe be like everything? You I'm I'm one or two things one or two things right on things. More than me. You came to the sport of professional boxing relatively late. But what dress you into the ring? What was it for you? It wasn't that. I was drawn into the ring. It was that. I I kinda needed something to do. I was a professional dancer that was Michael when my brothers were doing martial-arts, I was dancing. So when I got injured, and I couldn't dance anymore. My brother's finally was able to get me into the sport of a karate. So. I really had no interest in boxing. I just kind of fell into the sport. So now, it's funny because you say dancing, and then boxing, but the to do have some connective tissue show is definite correlation because it's funny when people see me, boxing, they say like a move like a dancer because there's a lot of moving that ends up being my style. I'm more of a boxer than puncher. Because of that, you know, that's always argument between the two types of pugilist is the brawler and the boxer and the boxer is the is the person who's light on their feet. They're up on their toes. They're using the ring they're using the perimeters of the ring they're creating positioning with their with their body and making their opponent kind of position themselves put themselves out of position and the brawlers the brawlers. Before. And and I love fighting brawlers because they come at you. Right. And that's the whole reason they will do all the work for you. And you just a disaster. Make sure you can hit them before they get to you. Now, you touched on strategies, and you thinking science using an opponent's momentum and there's losses toward you. As what they think is an asset. And you're running it round to make the disadvantage an asset for you. So I'm thinking that brother is a grand chessmaster that is all strategy. Your other brother, the kickboxer which one taught you the most. Well, it's funny because Devon and his last name is actually Cormac story rejoice for that. Don't turn it back on me. If I don't correct. The he's the one that actually got me into the sports. He got he will tell you also that he taught Morita play chess. Oh, this blame the fame. His he got us bowed into our perspective sports. So I'm gonna say that Devon is actually the one that has been most implants on me. But I also learned chess sydell that in a make strategy that is the angel bottom oxen to so how much of that chess strategy do bring to your book Zing in the middle of find. I think for me, it's a majority of my sites always thinking move ahead. Follow to get them in a certain position. So that I can, you know, punch them or or if they adjust I should be just that, you know, ahead of that. And we'll means like I got really placed in position, you might think you got there on your own. But it's really. I. That is a chess match to say, the least socially martial arts thing. The the biggest day of deception to allow you to go for something you think is there. And then the way it's not. Exactly, exactly. This is why this natives won't champion of definitely. So in your in your training, I'm interested because these things do interest me was your training old school hard now. Skipping rope. Or did you employ new techniques new technology? Are you one of those people that embraces the new? I hate weight training. Eight. Did it a little bit? But the thing is that even though I don't look like getting older. My body was telling me that I was I had the problems from dance. I started getting in boxing, which were toward is ahead torn minutes. Fist in. Now. I have it in both knees so much reigning actually head to change because of that. There was no more running. So I had a find a different way to get my stamina going. So what did you? Wealth things like burpee. I hate burpee you hate weights. Raining. I don't know how you do burp. I hate burp cut. The fact that a matter is it actually were was the best thing for me. And I hate saying that, but it isn't entire body workout, and it had helped me especially my last night. Last night was the a March at age fifty. And the one thing that I can say is that I had the conditioning to go more than the ten rounds. Wanna let's talk about conditioning. Yeah. Because that seems to be the kryptonite for most boxers that should win. But don't win. They lose their legs. How do you know that you're properly conditioned for a fight? And what do you have to do to get to that place? I think it's also to full the fact of the matter is a lot of them are trying to lose weight before the fight instead of a ready being in our on Wade's weeks before the fight. So if you are perpetually going up down in weight when it's time for you to fight and you'll have to worry more about losing weight than focusing on the fight than that's a major problem so maintaining I maintain my condition, even when I'm not fighting. So most of the times, I'm only three or four pounds over the weight that I find it. So after that is just fits working on condition the entire time. So that's background is don't token there. That's that. I see the conditioning physically of doing routines doing everything that you need to do to keep yourself in that shape. Then facilitates doing the same as books. But you can have the best condition in the world. But if you don't really feel like that day, it ain't happening. So how do you condition your mind to be able to take your body to the places it needs to go? Wow. That's a great question. The funny thing is that my mind is always there. Yes, you can not. You're not always in the fights. And that's the hardest part of it. But an essay that as dancer, you know, the show must go on. So you still have to work past that? And I always consider my five not as vice but performances. Interesting. Very interesting. Yeah. By the way, because because I'm the principal dancer. Everyone is watching over all eyes are always on you. And let me take this opportunity to say to all the dancers who are out there listening or not that dancers are some of the greatest athletes that you will ever encounter period. I agree. So that, you know, not because you'll hear that. Anyway, this this improper dancers, the ones the ones that can't even box. We gotta give it to them to federal. Yeah. Can. I don't wanna find out if they just know they can oh what what would you say your biggest challenge has been over the course of your professional career. Has been hard to maintain that same level of? I'll say interest in the sport. Because. Yes, a lot of times I do not feel like training, and the older that I get is harder to maintain that that same desire, especially because I know that I don't have the train as much to get the same out of it. Cool can't doing for my training. Now, it's like I have to purpose when I was younger. I didn't is just like train as much as one to fight comes along. But now is warped focuses in is on winner. You getting me a fight when am I fighting neck? So that has been hard to maintain that same sort of a desire to fight while that's funny. The trajectory of your training has been the exact same path as the trajectory of my partying. So when do do have you said a date when you've said, that's me out. Or are you just going to do your thing? Let let go go think think this. Them me ended up in China kinda is pushing me on that. 'cause I wouldn't have taken this job. If I still had so many buys the thing about it that I wanted me to stay in the game. I need at least three fights in the year. The last three years I've just been fighting once a year, and that's not enough to sustain me understand that. It's like, okay, I'm slowly weaning myself out of this fort in being on the other side, which I have been a trainer for the last fifteen years. But now, it's a kind of just forcing me out of where are you looking for your boxes dance? Gold all in gym. Now, they come to me, they come to the gym makes sense. Let me ask you this. You're a champion a world champion five times. Anybody who wants to be a champion? What is it that you have to do to be a champion? What is the championship stuff? What is it? I don't really think it's psychology as a lot of people want to do del the, oh, but you know, as a lot of work, but you can put someone in the ring, and they're like, oh after the first, you know hitter. So I'll coming back, and then, you know, a lot of people think that just winning makes you that winner doesn't it's win you lose. That's where you know. How much that person wanted are how much how strong of a fighter they would be if they can get back up and go back, and so I don't play so much emphasis on winning a put more on you being able to turn around and come back after you've lost well or read great just remembered something and correct me if this quote is wrong, but you are asked to give advice to any up and coming female, Boca on your advice was don't get hit is that correct? Well, I mean, that's a big part of it. Now, the second part of this question is have you managed to take your own advice? Looking at you say you did pretty well. I definitely managed to keep that a vice. And the thing is still out say this. I've never been not down in all the years that I've been biting never been not been knocked out. I've had losses and I'm happy with that. Because it makes me the person that I am because I can come back around. That's when I came back in it again, if we. Aides though the losses detained. Winds will be so you and I have something in common. I've never been knocked down my fights either. Because you can't knock down somebody is running away from you knew you're going to do that. Just new shrimp them. Don't worry. At least you can be out to catch him may for that matter leash. We have got to the end of this interview. And we are thrilled that we had the chance to spend some time with us. Thank you so much. Actually. Oh, thank you. Thank you very much. So there you have it on boxing special with three very very interesting women boxes different sort of approaches the philanthropist the entrepreneur in Cary Williams. The astrophysicist who clears her mind by boxing that really is something. And of course, the one the only undisputed champion of the world Alicia. Ashley, it's been a fabulous fabulous show. A hope you've enjoyed as much as Chuck, and I did and we look forward to your company very very soon. So that's it from time assigns until. Hey starts fans now that the show's over please remember to go and vote for star talk to win the webby for the best science education podcast. You can go to star talk radio dot net slash webbie's to vote right now.

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Ep#14 - Overcoming Adversity with Tayla Harris

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Ep#14 - Overcoming Adversity with Tayla Harris

"You are listening to the Halley. Cpt podcast where unconventional musings of broken. Down into black sites conversations to create the contain the holistic living and self reclamation. I'm your host Ellen mental performance h and student to life. I am here to remind you that life is a journey of obstacles meant to be overcome. And I'm eager to share mine in here about your house for you. I'm the woman I once needed and together. We will explore exactly what it takes to deconstruct reinvent who we are and what we are in order to feel on and become very best selves base. Is that moment my friend right here right now. Welcome you are listening to Listrik. Papacostas number fourteen overcoming adversity with Australian rules football. I end professional boxing. Chant Tayla Harris. This episode truly is so inspiring. You guys you're about to learn who Taylor Harris is if you don't know already This episode has a really really beautiful. Celebratory on the current. You guys We really go and dive deeply into the challenges and obstacles that we face as human beings and more specifically the ones that Taylor has faced and it truly is such a privilege to be able to bring you the guidance wisdom and story Someone that has been through this riot what that looks lack while it's happening for another human and and how that can really shape us and then of course what that looks like on the side you know when the dust has settled you know how we cope and how we land on the other side this soy many beautiful angles to this and I feel really tackled. Him expelled really really well. And I think you're going to appreciate it sir. If you're experiencing any challenges or adversity right like right now yourself we have in the past. This episode really highlights. How possibility is to not only become the tough times and also come out the other side stronger than you know what that process that journey teach you and the little invitations you know that may be available to you as event CIA now. Taylor has a lot of incredible insight to share with you around having a really positive mindset and it really complements the adversity so well in my opinion I feel high-capacity to stand in her power with this really positive mindset and attitude and choosing it as a choice I feel it has given such a unique edge and sort of sort of like this really very unique advantage in terms of where she's going and how she's landed where she has riot and how his contributed to her success in her sporting craze. Now something I feel. A lot of you will resonate. With is her capacity to embody the the mindset of a winner. This really positive mindset. That I'm speaking of this was really really humbling. To me to listen to you know she shares her processes and even perhaps some of her air quotes personal rules around those processes and how she chooses to be in the world now. I also philly advice that she gives on losing and how the stigma of losing can be so negative or or seemingly detrimental. She highlights really well. How losing can be such a powerful tool right and I really love this. I love love the nature of using losing as a powerful tool. And lastly before I tell you can with her and how to get your hands on her new book. Taylor has achieved immense success. You guys as an athlete While simultaneously retaining who she is at her coal maintaining anticipate and kindness and her values to route her honor. Ed Court sort of fame right as such. This is something I feel so incredibly passionate about and it's so important and I just want you to know that you know. Sometimes I feel and I see this in my work. There is an there is a FIA. Does this fear that success means we have to change who we are you know. Oh that it might change us and you know Taylor is a living walking breeding reminder that you can be so immensely successful you can get in the ring and physically and technically fight another human being in win and you can reach the top level in your spoil in your life and your career and you'll harm and still be the moist kind loving caring human being Mary's riot sir. You guys can connect with Taylor or run instagram at at Tayla underscore Harris. That's T. A. Y. L. A. Underscore H A double R s Because he got a little carried away. We did not get a chance to tell you guys where to find her. You can also jump online literally anyway. KMART BE W Amazon Google and purchase her book. More than a kick. Footy the fertile in me can actually learn in even more depth about Taylor story. It's really amazing book. I read it. And it's it's very inspiring chilly now. If you're at only two sports if you live and breathe challenge and turning it up and taking yourself to the next level which I know so many of you do. This episode is going to feel so very good for you and if you like me sometimes struggle with allowing yourself to rise and shine like to rise that high in shine that Bryant. This is such a powerful invitation for you and it's it's going to fire you up at FIS me up at fide me out while I was listening and I was a part of it It is going to remind you that you're so immensely capable and I can't freaking wait to hear what you pull from this conversation. So sorry much of what you're about to hear is incredibly Applicable and so Taylor would absolutely love to hear from you. Please please head over to my instagram at the dot holistic dot and leave your comments on the marketing photo of Taylor and I for these pocus episode comment. What you felt while you're listening to this episode. Or if you have or are currently experiencing Buren please feel free to commoner over. Tell us what that has been lack for you And share your story because we want to hear from you now. I hope you're very very well in taking care of yourselves. And one another and without further ADO. This is episode number fourteen overcoming adversity with Taylor Harris. All right guys. Welcome back to another at the site of the hilly. Cpt Poe cost. I have the beautiful Taylor Harris with me today. How are you? How are you yeah? I'm excellent thank you for those of you. Who aren't nor Taylor? She is in my opinion and the icon for creating a movement against online trolling and bullying and she is a phenomenal female athlete. Playing for East apply for the Carlton Football Club in the NFL women's yet Olsen and she's also professional books out with your still on undefeated right as amazing. Thank you so much for joining me today. And for honestly you'll eagerness to contribute your time and your energy and what I believe will be a very impairing compensation for women and Women in Sports. I thank you mark are looking for me to sir. Mind TENSION FRECHETTE. Today is truly of a very celebratory nature And it is in full acknowledgement of the incredible work. You are doing and have done on a as a pro athlete. Really Passionate about women in Sport and you know their energy that discipline they mindset and be as a voice riot phocine many for creating change in ways that I feel so many of us either have before currently do feel hopeless and palace to create ourselves right so actually met Kayla in Japan last year. Sir Of all the places we could be in Japan. We met at anytime fitness in Shinjuku which I think really speaks commitment and discipline to work. I think Actually that that day a heck admit I snuck in the gym because I didn't have a membership and I couldn't communicate with the stuff that I have to try him that I if wade into someone else in the door and I stuck in try. Yeah I love that. I was really struggling to communicate with them as well and I had a current membership so I totally get where you're saying Showing actually he went and Thou lack owner. You can't come with your tattoos so he had to go cover off and Literally head to turn in lack long sleeve shirts trekkies and come back and train like that so that was really interesting. I would have been wearing a long sleeve but they I think because I've got my on also. Yeah it's a Something you have to be aware of before otherwise you'll get caught out and you'll be disappointed but it's culture unless you're aware of it you can. Econ- push back on it. You the complex. Absolutely I loved That's something I actually love about. Japan is how How loyal they ought to that coach. It's really it's actually really beautiful. Yeah I love Japan I so I read that Sir. I didn't actually know who you were at the time Brian. I didn't know that you were Kind of likes footballer. Oh books are had no idea who? You were That I was actually just most start to hear another. Oh the accent. 'cause I was on my day My friends were off doing something else. Sorry Yeah I had. I had the chain as Schedule I had a flat coming up. I think At the time so yeah. It was very much a little bit nervous like I festival. I'd broken into the gym second of all like I didn't know anyone or I couldn't understand anyone's I was very. I felt home. When you hear an accent over there. You feel like you say you know all of a sudden. It's just not as lonely. Yeah I totally get that. That's awesome but what actually caught my eye that you is that I saw you. When I saw you training I was really because at that point. I still had no idea who you were But it was clear as day that as soon as I started saying you try that you clearly either an athlete or you just had like a really sick church and you'll falling a program. They'd written full unite. Just remember thinking. Wow election moves really really well and this is just like a habit as a as a coach myself. Like a Moi's dialed into the way people moving in what they're doing in the gym and you were doing some explosive jumping or something and all black man like she's not I remember. You looked amazing while you're doing it and and then at the end we were talking about Trying to set up a pad session. We showing your member that yet and we couldn't quite get it to work so that was a shame however I do distinctively remember like just how kind you an? How incredibly down to Earth? And you know that really stuck with me and I kept telling shown lack. Wow she such a cool shake she say down to Earth and then from that point on I just remember seeing you in like Nike posted on the walls and I just remember being so proud to be a woman saying now woman representing spoil in that way. It really excited me and then about two weeks ago. I saw that you had launched a book which we'll talk about And now here we are Sir. Thank you sir. Awesome to be landing here with you lack this after all this time. It's really cool. Yay I love that. We met like that like I. I love organic meetings. And there's no like I'm so glad you didn't know anything about my fault because I would much prefer meeting someone on the basis that I've met them because they want to chat with me if that makes sense rather than wanting to know about putting he'll thing yeah it was great and In country is just why of all the places actually indicating that same trip? I opened at another trillion. Couple that happen to know my family just in this really random roundabout way and it was in the smallest little by you could ever know like it was upstairs and everything just like out of this happen in a whole nother country with millions and millions of people. Yeah it's meant to Bay Cycle Saiga so we're talking about least before back at the time of this recording where currently experiencing a global pandemic and most of the world is in some form of look down or Quarantaine And Scott has basically been virtually canceled. Gyms have been closed at you say athlete to throwing down without a really dense crowd right. So it's really weird time And I don't know about you but I am absolutely seeing my sport. Jiu Jitsu sorry match you know I like I said before we have some mats at he but it's not quite the same at home Like the without training without team and training on the mats with a goal. Like a really. Miss that support and competitiveness in the challenge it brings and also just not knowing when we as I could team as a cloud can get back to the mets and start competing again working towards something so I really miss that degree of certainty but something that I'm really passionate about is kind of understanding how Other human beings experienced the world. You know what they're thinking the decisions they make you know why they do what they do how they respond to laugh and so. I'm really curious what what has been like. What has your experience been with this? Pandemic what are you experiencing as like a fellow human being and also as an athlete who? I'm sure you probably had some big plans for twenty twenty. I make very conscious point decision to try and find a positive in any given situation. Sometimes it's really hard and obviously at the moment. It's quite challenging. I've decided that this is not need for me to spend time with family to give my body bit of arrest but also making sure that I'm maintaining fitness in an attempt. Shembe as ready as possible whenever and however it looks like when things the best in the world because I can imagine everybody is in the same boat and it's going to be so excited to get back out last but everything just comes really quickly and everyone just really gotta get back so I have to be ready and the other thing. I'm I've enrolled in a course online leadership core with latrobe uni which I would never do otherwise I wouldn't have time but I also not one study. That's something else I'm doing some really trying to make the most of this time and trying not to after it's all I look back and think I just wasted a few months. I've certainly made them. I also started a Youtube Channel I noticed that a lot of people were wanting to not sure to do at home workout so I just Kinda put up that while I was doing it was really easy thing to do because I was already doing it. The difficult part was learning to edit it all and make it not look so Harvey. I have but not that really mad but I wanted to make it easy to follow along with me. And I've got some good feedback especially from kids to the forty players or anything else. They're gonNa just do something and whether that's Kids and their parents joining the same time. I love that or it could just keep on the in my bedroom on youtube and just being active. I think that circle because it's quite easy to fall into The idea that in this time he should be playing video games. Dodi watching Netflix. Which is nice tempting but I think just a little bit exercise through the day so important as it always is but even also now yeah absolutely and movement Flato for our mindset as well. You keeping online's healthy and eliciting dolphins as well lack at our what I would do without the ability to move lack. It's yeah and I love that. You should see the smile on my face guys. Moonlight hearing Taylor speak. Valleys is so good. Will Yes sir. Yeah I Norfolk. Mate has taught me a lot about 'cause I'm usually the kind of person that just does like A. I go ago when I rarely ever give myself a chance to relax so this has been a really nice opportunity for me to actually slow down and really recuperate my energy and and having done that like when I do go out to the mat-su show on like I'm my focus in my precision is sorry cle- lack. I'm training differently. I've got more energy more gumption like a recovering sta yet. It's different but it's actually really appreciating it so it's found it really interesting. How people have been deducting with what my parents. My mom is a insurance claims. Circa and my Dad's marine mechanic so they've had to work from home which is obviously industries is quite Unheard OF I guess Especially died obviously fixing. But so we've got my family live in Brisbane. But I've gotten on the fence. I know some God's bringing a said he's third. How's it going to sit in the back yard? He finds a way. It's is a down side of the House with one centimeter between the brick wall. And the head like he just nice. It happened so I think it's amazing how people are adopted and how human candidate if anyone ever questioned how we would How would go into time like they? I think Austrailia empathy gone on with the. I mean the on behalf but I really speak with the knowledge that Australians Really yeah making the most of a time like this and A of people of course are experiencing some times and struggling but I think say generally pretty positive vibe around the absolutely yes. I fully agree. All right Sir Let's talk about the cake right. The the very famous tale Harris cake the hardships that came with that and ultimately how it impacted a movement so you recently launched a book more than a cake. Footy the photo in me congratulations. That's a huge huge thing. Well done I never thought I brought a book but here we are clearly up. I read it and it is really. It's a really neat story. And biography of how you came to be in the walled and how you've overcome some of the biggest challenges you face in what you just spoke on before about how your parents are just making it work. You can really see that shining through just in your attitude like you've got this real lack can do can make it work. Nothing's going to stop lack. Limitless nece about you. I love and Gaza going to link up. Taylor's book in the shriners. So you can get your hands on it but what? I really took away from the book is that you know you've had to learn a lot about leadership so it was really interesting that you brought that up before about doing your course. They've had to learn a lot about leadership and being you know this positive role model and you know that you take that responsibility very seriously and I thought at the same time. You're quite young yourself and I have some questions and curiosities about this so just for our audience the Keith. Can you tell us about the famous Harris Cake and the story of sort of how that came to be? Yeah ours actually Recode this very many times so we've got it pretty downtown now which which is good but in summary. There's a fight. I price that have made online playing for kicking the ball and Michael. Winston was the photographer who five nine at admired for a long time. He's an amazing story from the best. If I say so myself I he took it and as usual. He posted a few of these special from the day On his personal account and then seven. Afl facebook page stay. Posted at and echoed. The what Michael had said that this is a great fighter and then in the Clintons obviously it was really positive right chop my whole obviously take whatever benefit. I don't know that it actually went through goals so I was. This decided out of the narrative but a lot of people questioned whether I had ten meters out in the phone. Whatever I just glad to know that I and any video compared the high Actually case it well side But yeah and then. After that there is a few moments that were really sexualizing. And and I'm kind of remember saying them and taking all that's pretty good from just moving away from it but then later on I for whatever reason went back to the comment I think it was because someone else had tagged me in when my friends just saying oh great as my friends do this. I quoted in the back and then above vogler was of course as disgusting and because they were started. I had time. They likes about them right up the top of the comments section which is a pretty disappointing thing. Obviously these disgusting sexist misogynistic comments getting somebody like so just blew my mind that other people could even consider supporting telling they but there was and I just decided in the moment I was like I don't like this. I'm not going to Sandra. I wouldn't stand for it in in real life. So why would I send for online? And then I made a personal without him in gem and I just said blanket that sexist and misogynistic comments on not okay and then. Obviously that picked up a lot of traction. A lot of people will curious what you back and then it don't make sense to faithful channel seven delayed the price. The people picked up on the fact that they needed it. And then I kind of brought it back up and said the furnace should not have been deleted. Obviously the comments should have been deleted which is which is obvious. Now that I understand in the moment channel seven were under fire to try and this right and to fix it And it was late at not. I'm sure someone just made a decision and I'm positive that they regret the leading the hope now but with social media you cut it back magically so so that happened but I wasn't too concerned about leading the principal of when women and athletes shouldn't be deleted. The Clement should and understand that but I also get the process that whoever did it went through so I don't really WanNa hold anyone accountable by just actually added to the whole story line which was in hindsight ideal so the fact that it was elated was with good so I can kind of think that I guess and then it went away to the world which was crazy and are missing the same as anyone else watching on. Is this kind of blew up. I was thinking what the Hell is going on. I didn't know what I started. Intend to stop this. I just wanted to opinion out there but as soon as I realized that it's much bigger than than I ever could have imagined I was. I was on that train like Rod onboard and I was going to Make sure that I made as much of a annoys and as much of a conversation possible so I did a radio interview the next morning and a press conference and the reason I they did a couple things is because I didn't want to dilute. The message had a very clear message that I wanted to get out. I wanted to really articulate and as you can imagine when you do many things sometimes it can get diluted and A few words can be taken out of context. I didn't want that to happen an old. So that's why I was very Was very deliberate with my approach to the media and it would have same kind of wins. But I didn't do many things about that was the reason and yeah after that they stuck to which is pretty. Wild is the fastest thing to say. What is going on now? I just got my rod like a very burn As it was obviously Bundy fans that they've them that she says good. I actually rang my mom and dad and I said now. They've made this that you and obviously they're very proud and happy and everything but I said just the aware that a lot of people are gonNA know understand and they're gonNA make main comments and everything like that and I knew that before anything plaisted and that's fine. 'cause 'cause people don't read articles and people don't get it and that's that's one But anyway so just prepared them for that. And I didn't want mom and dad too 'cause I obviously got really upset. When people say main things about the kid they still got upset at least But then the end of the day I realized that. Even if you don't understand this you still if you're still commenting on that you're adding to that conversation and you're adding to the reason people are going to go back at you with the reason. The said she was was my as much as it was a bit shedding. That people didn't get it in the end. It was made it necessary. That was one part of the story that have I never could have imagined that they would that she but I also am very that it one hundred percent about the moment and has nothing to do with my footy or whether I'm good old or not and that's open to interpretation and fun And I'm GonNa read a Guy. I was twenty two at the time. So twenty one even maybe say Yeah it's very easy to to make sure or to tonight that I don't think they start. You is any more than a moment in time. And it could have had no sort of represented it can be. There's still a wet and I would have been more than happy with that because it's yeah it's just a really important in pending point in society. I think a few people were fed with us and I was so sick of online charlene which is bullying and harassment. And everything. And I've been thinking since the day I will into the school into the school ground so I couldn't understand it from when I was young president. I still condoms than it now. So I'll continue to push back in anyone who thinks that it's okay to be today name to people or to bring people down and unfortunately Estrada told puppy syndrome. The school is a big thing and I hate it because I love supporting during really well men or women in any sport or any any Foil music or anything like that. I think it's pretty disappointing that often when people are doing well. Australian coach kind of is scattered that they they bring them back down to think that it's Think that it's right but it's not Totally and what? I lost so much about this. He's like it. Despite the hardship that you went through it led you to create a movement and speak about something that required attention. You became the face something really really powerful and I think I speak on behalf of so many when I say lack way to Gar- like thank you for that. That's awesome thank you yeah. Of course The women that I share my world with the Women in my gym in my online communities their incredible like they're the most incredible human beings and you know the kinds of women who see another woman going through hodge it And they relate that experienced back to themselves and they show up and they support and they be they shop in your corner and on your team all the way. And the become very curiouser. One question that came up a lot when I told them that we were doing this. Was they said you know how? How did she cope with the hardship? And Sir I'm going to refrain the for you because you've kind of already answered the question. Bet I there's something else I wanNA acknowledge here also as someone who has read your story know you've already kind of these quite nicely however lack. It seems that you know this was such an innocent thing. You know the way you a kicking the ball like it's it's such an innocent thing. It's something that we should be proud of. It's something that we can ensure admire. Not that's a really really good thing and it feels like in many ways like you mentioned you know. We've been taught almost to not do that or as an as an OC culture like it's not celebrated and to not and not to celebrate ourselves in case you know maybe it makes us appear undesirable. Or what have you whatever? It is In this moment this picture you simply use simply doing what you love what you do every single day kicking the ball the same way always have and you know that so very quickly became an entirely different narrative lackland social media and. I was bullied in high school. And I can't even imagine what that would have been like if social media was what it is today and Sarah. My question is like what supported you through this experience in those moments of I. I can't speak view that I imagine you went through moments of anger and frustration. And even maybe about to feel This very clear violation of something. You know so incredibly innocent you know. How did you navigate the income out the other side even stronger? What's supported g through this experience? Well I was very lucky to have such an amazing Support crew I suppose around me and that was my friends who my pre existing friends and then the people I met along the way like yourself and then my parents my family. My football club. It was a very Eye-opening experience to have had. This happened to me to be involved in football. Like Colton the fact that I was very supported and incredible and I'm sure every club would have been by the way that they showed up and they continue to make sure I was okay to reach out everyday or every few allies even from that club. President to my my coach. Everything like that. So that kind of thing is a way for me and it makes me realize I am okay and really empowered and I never want from the very start so that I couldn't handle it. I had people Alex laundry my manager. I don't really like saying manager. Mervyn friend Joshua's justice there the whole time no matter what time of the day or Arab the not she was on final was ready to come over and make sure they say. I think I was very fortunate to have those people but it also Required made a reach out if needed. I the only time I really did was Kinda to check in on my parents. And then obviously because I would if Minnesota affected than I was about this in a Lotta ways because they're in Brisbane Melbourne so I couldn't mom officially couldn't just give me a hug. She she voiced that often say is pretty sad about that. They had to work. They couldn't just drop everything and I wouldn't let them destroy everything You know so. That was difficult. My grandparents had no idea what was going on then on social media. Thank goodness but I got a cold because my men was watching the TV early in the morning as she does with a cup of Tam Show and she called me and she said what what is happening. I don't know why are you on the news on the sand. 'cause obviously the the the tone of the report was really scary. So man rang and I was like man. I'm okay. Thank stress it. This is what's happened. She she wind understand because social media is just baffling to the older generation. As you can imagine that was really difficult That that I didn't even consider and yeah it just Kinda goes to show that when things are reported in a way that isn't quite clear to the entire population it just makes things confusing and it just Yeah just creates a really difficult to have conversation for the people involved. But then I suppose I bringing made me very resilient one but also I another thing I was always positive and that was from my parents and my family that we're very much. If for example my we're about every weekend we could be out of gang by twenty if the weather was a bit about The cost cloudy overnight rain. That would say that's why not get an hour in and so we just pack up everything really quick jumping in the car and get out in the book. We might have steady minutes of life loading and stuff but he would do that and obviously the petrol and to get the will not only get it out with enjoying that thirty minutes. That's where I got it from the nuts something than I continue to add in every aspect of my life and I find that segregating. I am always. I've found that I'm quite often up and about about things that if I'm but I find a way to make myself feel better and feel Excited for whatever that daybreak. That's awesome your family sound incredible. They really do your. They're very cool. Yeah Yeah I'm reading about I writing about this in the book and they can see so much of how they've raised. You shine through in the woman that you ought. Today let truly have done an amazing job since really really cool And Sir on the other side of all of this all this budget You become like a role model and a leader in a sense. And as I said before I see you take this quite responsibly and quite seriously sir You know I I work with women in multiple capacities quietly on quite deeply actually as lacquer and also as a strength and conditioning coach which also takes me to that depth in so many ways of you know what he Megyn self-doubt lack of confidence anxiety depression. Like all of that. And what I do is I take on a really profound jenny to like self reclamation essentially I kind of bring them back to life The Way I say you live. Your Life. You know. That's a really great example of what I love to bring in other women And when I see you standing in your power and the way you have The way you do. I see that you've tapped into this power that I speak of and from such a young age and that is incredibly exciting to me. Like talked into something. Sorry Pal and I get Kinda like chills and goosebumps thinking that like the endless possibilities to you and what you're going to achieve and create in this last time because of the way you were raised in what you believe and not really beautiful attitude that you have sir you know. I suppose my question is what has this becoming a role model alita been lack view. And you know what? Is it still teaching you? Well I realized that I was in a position to influence when I was seventeen and I got An opportunity to play for the Brisbane Lines. I was there first lection when they were given a team in the inaugural I W as it and so the second. I was announced as a player for the bridge and lines. I noticed that young people especially where reaching out and saying cool I and I get my number on the back. They would WanNa take fetters. May and everything like that so as a seventeen on my eighteen year old on the bring to that exciting time in any presents. Young young person's life I got out and about the city and everything but I realized that selling more important. What's happening for me at the time? And that was becoming real. What do and so I thought very like probably messier than top site couldn't or shouldn't but I was very much. This is my job and I didn't sign up for it those no. There's no explanation of the work. But I was doing and this is it. I'm the rest of my life. The Roman now so I think that's something that a lot of young people who come into fell at all or any sport with And they have publicity and things like that NATO understand that they have the ability to either do really good things and help people in a massive light all they can influence people in a way that they will regret in future. When when they have kids aren't yeah for a long time. I've realized the way that I can impact people and as out which is an a few years but I've also realized that there are many ways to do this. And that can be simply just being really pretzel when someone off professor and the first thing I learned was when you ask a young person. What's your name and username in your in your response and off the one thing about that day. It's very easy to tell deplace. How's your day going or anything like that? It can make a young person. Yeah Week cool even after not enough for me. Sorry about something that I am big on and It's very simple but that's why everyone should do. In addition lack myself will even anyone in general. Just make that little extra because it will come back and give you a good feeling but also can really give someone else and then everyone. His often just smile at people they will cost. You don't even have to Saleh just smile. That could make. That could be just what they need. So I'm big on and I think it's just too easy not to yes. I love that and it's such a big commission slate when you behave that way when you choose that when you choose that way of life such a big permission slip for the people around you to do the same as well. It's accurate she chooses. This and this is something that she really prides itself in being an perhaps I could learn a thing on Syria. So it's it is it's like you're a big walking token permission slip for people to do the same thing. That's really cool. You're on love's I want people to to copy and I want people not to try and Bay me. I want people to try and be better. Term Bake may be better than the NIAMH trying. Try and find my flows because I'm sure there are some and Tell me about them. I hit I'm very open and honest about because I'm confident that I'm doing the right thing but don't I want to know if anyone thinks I'm not make change? Yes yes that's such a huge Asset riot like disability to receive feedback in a productive way and decide for yourself. If it's something to learn from won't change from lack. That is something. I feel a Lotta people really. Struggle with is just being out there to save not feedback. So that is not only won't makes you powerful like as as someone who wants to be a role model and you know in in spies to be the best she can be. That is really valuable So I'm going to shift gears now to your career as an athlete and sportsman as a boxer. Because this is something I'm super excited about So so you're building correa as a box that and as a football la That sounds like crazy. That's that seems like a lot Can we talk about so to how you juggle them? Birth BECAUSE BY SPLITS DEFINITELY. I can say that they complement each other in terms of your training and like the physical and even the mental demands on. But how do you make them both work? Well Yeah they absolutely complement each other in physical. It's it's quite obvious but mentally is the big one for me so I often use example. Inefficient says no bench. He conscious think halfway through around on any of the rest. That's not an option on the city field. I can translate that to if I was on the other side of the of the bench hours on the other wing. I couldn't get off within a few minutes left and my teammates new field. I can think to a time in the ring when I've been in the middle of around and I just feel like I need need. That release will break. But it's not an option but that I find really helpful and beneficial and I think I would not be able to play the way I do now. Which being I woulda got. Run being out to Finish quarters or finish games. I think that saying that I never previously had into started fighting but the other thing undo very deliberately is I dedicate half the forty and huffy. It's about and I can do that now because I found out. The is only five months six commitment And that allows me to yet. They both thing in the other off the The good part about it is it's in winter and I live in Melvin. So book in my tracks it I I could wear double Fox and if I was like twenty in the winter like there's no loan there's no treacly over like you have to short supply and I'm not interested in that I'm from Brisbane. I grew up in the wall. Like that's a big reason and that thing with its international so I love the idea of being out of trouble me and my team Got To go on a trip to America and we had the best time ever. I learned the most I've ever learned in my life about about thing but about also things about my teammates about About my team. My coach my Alex. My job and so it. Yeah it's given me an amazing opportunity and doing during tastes ball at once. Has Its challenges. Obviously exhausting it's hard sometimes to understand if I'm 'cause I'm very cautious not to to give Less than one hundred percent either sport. 'cause I WANNA make sure giving one hundred percent vice book sometimes when you do than one for get out giving eighty percent here eight percent here and nothing actually get one hundred percent. But I think I've found that balance and a found that ideal amount of time dedicated to h sport per year and because they complement each other. Well I think just found the two very unlikely but very well much. Yeah that's awesome AK SAR all right. Let's just say that it's fight day for you. Let today off to this podcast. You're gearing up to step into the ring tonight like from the minute you wake up like what is going on in your head like nervous. Do you have a routine or process that helps keep you kind of in that winds mindset like? How do you navigate your day knowing you'll be literally fighting someone later well because fighting the nature of it you generally if you're later on in the car you're not gonNA fine to ten PM which is Pussai bedtime anyway? So it's a challenge in itself. I'm GonNa make sure what a sleeping with one have but I'm probably not going to sleep in because I'm so excited about it. Separately wake out dreamt about excited One thing I try and do the as normal and that would be hanging out with my friends. Taking the dogs will probably not GONNA go. Play game with woody Going to be detrimental but yeah I'm GonNa need normal things and I'm going to Have a normal breakfast. I'm not gonNA anything not eight enough or anything like that so I tried not to change much to my normal routine and then when it gets to the thought to the probably closer to the five time in the afternoon Have a gold from my courage. He'll say hey going did a thing on anywhere thanks anyway. What about because. I don't need much like I've got my backpack on aid briefing. Doug like I'm quite low maintenance. I'd like to think when it comes to five day and I in my mind I the guy on the prep begins eight weeks prior. So I've done everything that I could have done if I've skipped a training session if I've done everything my coach prescribed. There's no as in mind that I should be noted and if things that go my way with the fight that was on that I drew for their strategy and to a few years before and I. I wasn't obviously I was disappointed. 'cause I wish I had been able to To win nobody. I knew that that was what was meant to happen. Like it was I didn't lose. That's one thing my country I did. He said he still undefeated. So that you'll get another opportunity to win this belt. And that he was so proud of me and that my family and friends is still going to be as carrying as loving as before trying to I I was. I was fine about it of upset about. It wasn't the end of the well. And yes. So that kind of sums up my thought experience and that is super casual five minutes before the fat. I'll still be laughing with my shot. The back I'm not really don't need headphones. Have Not real serious. Anyone can come back and say hi I feel like it and we will not we dislike. We hang out we play games out back. Say That's how I do it and it's not very run but that's the way I go about my pre. Yeah I love that. I feel like you'll you're like you just allow laugh to continue to flourish for you in that way and I feel like that really attributes To like how. You're showing up in the ring. Lack really calm collected like you're not making such a huge deal out of it like I really do feel like it was always lacked that for you. Do you feel like you had to to kind of get the hang of it now. I think that because I genuinely enjoy the sport and I love the technicality of it and I love the idea that and I have to my best for France. I think I think four or five. I had the opportunity to knock my turn out but I didn't and I couldn't understand why and I realized that it was because I was to human. If that makes sense in the moment my coach said like I said You you do the pension that Wrexham but you just hold back and you don't do that second one you won't and he would visibly as a as a book day himself. He was visibly like. Why don't you do like I don't get it and I said I don't want to hurt them like I don't want like I can see is that they they gonna you know like out which is pretty scary so the why the kind that? I tried to explain to me that you have to consider them as a school board. So we've put he. Obviously it's pretty easy for me to understand that. So he said. Try Not to think of them as the person you met before. The show can't with him. I won't be nice to my respect. Them try and just so that twenty minutes or whatever it is in the ring just trying to think of them as Some an obstacle in the in order to and I was like okay. I can do that. And then only the sudden I was able to not recognize my Appendi- facial expressions as she's had she's Upset She's whatever and I could just have a blank face and I was In between rounds I to like in between rounds I can have a conversation about. What's the lunch smer if I felt if I wanted because I'm so I've got that ability and I think it's very rare of discovered that ability to take myself out of any given situation and just come back to Noah last but then the ramp thought about it I think is that ability to go back and flips right back into What my job is At in that moment so I find that quite interesting when I go in depth about the way that I thought and ny habits things like that but now since that moment and since that conversation with my coach I I've known out all of my opponents which I don't love say gloating about but it's not. It's the school board. It was the home run so Yeah Yeah it's on. I find it super intriguing. This is one thing that I really wanted to pick your brain about was literally like how you prepare for. Fight where your head's at would emotions going through your body like that for me is really intriguing because I have. My upbringing has been quite the opposite of yours sir. I kind of learned how to be afraid of everything like very young. Sir GROWING UP I. I wasn't confident or outspoken. I didn't really believe in myself. Struggled a lot with Lex confidence and self doubt and I was bullied and competed for the first time in lack of grappling competition in December last year. And it was like I really really struggled lack showing up with a calm and collected and lack. I couldn't sort of. I felt really in my emotion lack. I was really really struggling and I remember doubting myself a lot end simultaneously still being a cheerleader for myself so as still kind of going back with employs between what the hell am I doing like I'm GONNA lose. This is going to be crazy and then I'll also lack. You've got this you're good. You're trained hard. You've done everything right. You're strong you're capable like you've got this And you know. I know that if I had believed in myself and my abilities more if I was able to maintain that really calm and collected state I would have crushed it like I would've walked away with two goals instead of to Silva's laxer in hindsight it was definitely familiar with more mental than anything else and I really really struggle with that cell service to super good to he say like how you deal with that because I feel like hearing you say it is only sought permission to me to look at it in a new in any way. Yeah it certainly finding your own version of of not and it doesn't have to be like I walk out to the ring smiling and I love it. I waved my friends through my gloves. So it's a pretty weird way but I Yeah I I put myself very much and very literally in that moment and I don't think that I mean the training Kimmel. I know that I'm he a crowd. What my friends watching. I don't want to discipline them to this crush. But it's good pressure so I I believe that that that's my way but I can tell you a million different options in ways that that could be a variation of communist and that might be envisioning that you're in the training. Jim All that could be No crowd that noises From the speakers or something like that like those different options. But you just have to spoil and you have to understand. I think that losing is okay. So I'm very much if I lose in boxing or in Comex because quite a Stigma around if you if you lose once the massive problem. But I'd leave that anytime that I've lost or at a Whether it's in training or anything and pretty is probably the big one. Because obviously you've got your whole team that you're lying said little bit hot to to Have Self so what's the would soon. How did the Blind Yourself? I suppose for table that I've learnt so much from those experiences and knowledgeable team went from the bottom of the ladder in two thousand eighteen. We've lost five out of seven games or something like that. And the next year we were in the grand final and we. We didn't win. Matt Grandfather bought wake up there bad experiences. Beavis and I can think two thousand eighteen to that because there's no way in the world we would have been to make our way to the grand final without that experience of and that feeling because many feel it. You don't want to feel it again so you know what it's like and you just get reassured that I don't WanNa do that ever again so It just gives you that little extra motivation. I think it's necessary. Yeah absolutely I learned so much And walked away like from Mike. My my competition is nothing like stepping in the ring. It's not quite like that bit. It's I remember feeling sore proud of myself. Flacco is just sorry. Sorry stike that I have put myself in a situation where I was terrified and scared and I didn't anyway lack and I think only lost two of my six spots it was still lack the most amazing liberating experience for myself and I never will regret it. Lack it's amazing yet. Well yes I think. You'll find that anyone who is involved in your process even over it even anyone who just code you training day and you just finished an existing session and experience how hard and how much effort you put in. You know that they proud of you. And they'll I'm sure that you would have had plenty of fun calls and plenty of messages off the your Competition and I think that's the best part of it knowing that no matter if you win the whole thing and undefeated and no one came close or if you Don't quite Win The whole thing or whatever it might be you'll still have that support and and people who see what great things he did whether it is in. Split second of flight number three on the event but love when someone says. Remember when you do that that was so instead of saying? Oh well done on your whole commission. I just yeah when people make the effort to bring out one particular time. That's my favorite things. Yeah me too that's awesome. Yeah when can relate it back to something really specific that you've done it's like a it's like a it's like a complement to your to. Your work. Not just your role success yet psycho. I lacked that. Do you have a year like? Where are you at right now? With footy and football. Do you have any upcoming fights What part of the do you do Voice Ada? Well couple is from November until eight thirty and then boxing is the other and the moment of with the current climate. I really can't answer. Notre what is happening? Career is different. Acquaintan- differences W is so. When you hear something from this morning I heard something about Jim. Three opening and I thought it but then I realized that I think that's only full. Who somewhere somewhere that somebody that I'm not sure. Many kinda get disappointed against I I don't know what's going on at the moment and the only thing that I do know is that I will be prepared. For What an whenever things back up again or whatever presents itself makes and just got that could be really random. That could be very left field. I get an opportunity to to travel overseas An opportunity in a whole different whole different realm of things than I'm looking forward to that. 'cause that's the way things have gone for me in the last few years and I'm very often see I do something very left field coming my way. I like that. You're always ready. You're always prepared Taylor. So what he's one piece of advice or a spoken word that you might have for women that you'd like to leave here in the space. Well I think if in any variation or any way that you can you can adopt and bring positivity into any given situation and that could be something small and that could start with just waking up in the morning and thinking we're GonNa have a good day today and if the doesn't turn out to be a great one that's okay. That's no fun but I think it's just starting to add that into your everyday routine and trying to adopt and develop that January wing of trying to find entity because it honestly just makes things so much and you'll find that is just awesome when you try your best to find something good in every situation or something. Good in everyone that you make. And that's something that I've been doing for a long time and it takes a long time to muster. That takes a long time to get a little bit frustrating. When you try to find but it's a challenge that I can Give people if they feel like Just it's not the Waco thought with the day and Say Go and see how you feel after that. I love that I always say to my people. Like what you focus on you find and create more of Surrey. If you want to focus on you know all the things that are wrong in the well then you're gonna find and create more and more of those things that if you wanna focus on all the things that are riot and positive not bring joy to your life then you're gonna find and create more and more of that like it's it's inevitable say that Yes Awesome Aka. Well we're running out of time so I wanNA thank you on behalf of like all of the women that I know and love and cherish and those who have ever felt maybe a little bit trapped or emotionally unable to do something like to set the stage to demand a shift to rise up for a much-needed change. Thank you for. Thank you so much for showing us that it can be done and not. It doesn't have to change who you are like. You've clearly been able to retain like that down to Earth. Notice that that pot that makes you and you've been able to rise up at the same time like for that a really wondering -nology for your willingness to be the voice riot many and Fitz using sport as your platform to shine it has been on our ended privilege to Chevy space with you today and I will definitely be falling along at harm. I can't wait to see what you get up to over the next gosh decade. It's going to be incredible right. Hugh of really love brain of proud of it. Thank you thank you guys so much for being here and training in today. I really appreciate your presence and your attention truly. If you found value in today's podcast please subscribe share this episode on your social feed of you guys know. Instagram is my social playground. You can find me over there at at the DOT holistic dot. Pd and guys. Please please let me know what this episode inspired few today. How did it make you feel? You know what? What did it help you to think about change? Did you have any specific? 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All the coolest gadgets at CES 2019, Day 2 (The 3:59, Ep. 506)

"Hello and welcome to see three fifty nine show coming to you live from day to of CAS twain, nineteen in Las Vegas. We're stationed here at the sands expo center area at known as Tet west. We're ready to kick off another day of this massive tech show. And what better way to start our day of live coverage with a special extended edition of Arthur fifty nine show. So I'm here with Roger Chang, and Ben FOX Ruben. So let's get to a quick overview of the hottest CAS new so far and to start. I would say Google has been taken everyone here for a ride literally. Probably one of the hottest attractions. We've got your say tracks attraction as is. This is the ride the Google the ride actually that's the call. It is a lot like Disney's at small world. It's not roller coaster, which is what we thought. It would be a we're showing right now, I would say an attraction aficionado would call this a dark ride. This is a slow moving ride with animatronic and music, and it's all about. Like a day in the life of a dad trying to get a birthday cake and trying to wrangle his kids. Exactly. And it really culminates into the dad going out to a French Baker. Who speaks French, and of course, pulls up the Google interpreter mode and gets his French translation before that he has to get rerouted Google for all sorts of things to help them get to schools credit. They were very self aware about this introduce it saying, you know, this part ride part marking start. Let's be honest with ourselves. So it was it was funny launch with this are huge. This is then why am I gonna face? How are they gonna one up this next year? You know, like they had this like giant booth last year where they really made a big splash in two thousand eighteen for twenty nine thousand and they have a ride. I mean, this thing is pretty impressive. But you do I suppose to do next year. You realize how much money Google makes? Yes, they've got a law. Smart people probably thinking about next. Hold on hold on. All right. They just made another billion dollars. You guys know I'm Disney nut, and I got to say in the little Twitter sphere of those of us who are really into rides and stuff. This is fascinating. Because this is the nineteen sixty four world's fair concept. The concept of getting an international audience together to talk about a product that's branded through a moving vehicle. That's what small world started as it was sponsored by UNICEF, FM, Pepsi and here Google has done. Another twist. It does look a little more like Pixar because it's modernized stomachs or that Galil look. Yeah. But you got the song. It's really cute. You know, you're teaching something. In fact, a lot of the Disney nerd fans are like why isn't this an Epcot because it has that feel like it really is about the future. Right. What can future technology be? And here you see the French Baker. He's going into everything's and different language and all of a sudden, use Google, the new translation ability and Bo make an order the cake and at the very end. You go you go, see grandma. It's just really cute. And there's a song. There's a song people. I don't see the light. I can't wait to ride this when I was seen Andrew Gephardt righted on the video on like I have to be there today. So I will find a way they'll find somewhere to put it. I mean like you're making such a good argument for having it's easy permanent somewhere. Just like take it lifted and put it in Epcot. There you go or maybe middle of Times Square in the parking lot of the wherever I wouldn't mind at this point probably take that long for me to get through the lines actually ride this thing. So I know what I'm doing for the rest of the days waiting in that line. So. Yeah. Part of it was also related to this news about the translation service. Right. Yeah. So Google interpreter mode is the new service that they unveiled your c- essays coming to a soon. I think it's an early beta mode, but you can't actually see it at Caesar's palace at the concierge desk. They've got an interpreter mode right there. We've been able to test it out it works well with common phrases, and I guess some uncommon ones. But it's at least. Recon Sierra to ask in terms of asking for restaurant recommendations, or whatever the bathroom. Where's the best Elvis impersonator? Right. Like, it's actually pretty effective. This is definitely a step up from the earlier Google translate service that they offer initially for assistant. Yeah. I think that I it definitely continues as promise from Google that it's going to help you aggregate, all the world's knowledge. I remember during one of their presentations, they had these pixel buds which also worked almost like a Babel fish, or whatever that they would be able to translate different languages. So I would be well, that's the thing is that you know, in trying to get to that promise. Maybe they're over promising a little too much, but this seems to work with twenty seven different languages, and obviously Google translate does a whole lot. So it is interesting to see Google continue to push to do this kind of thing. And definitely I mean, you probably can speak to this better. But in the assistant war, this is this is one of those potential killer, apps, right? Getting translation services to work. Well, really get you to think about Google assistant a different way. That's. A very very good point, especially because Google has this strength far more than Amazon does I'm sure Amazon has translation software, but it's not like an app that a lot of people use. It's not baked into your browser the same way. So I think if Google season opportunity to really leverage this, then maybe more people which over to Google assistant. But we'll say it's part of that future that we all kind of think about right like never having to worry just talking to someone. It's pretty cool and with that and the ride I would say Google is not the only one with skeet ride. I think a lot of future. Transportation talk was a buzz yesterday. Have you seen the helicopter the bell nexus? It's not really helicopter. Keep calling it a helicopter. It's it's not a helicopter, but but it's a futuristic like flying machine. So. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Now, we now have flying machines. I guess flying cars flying cars at. Yes. So there you go. The long hours of flying cars. They don't like flying cars that we were promised. We're in flying car supposed to be just like a car with like I dunno to boost your packs on the side of the theater. He's like a wing that pops out. Well, this is pretty this is pretty amazing. And the interesting thing here is Bill bell nexus is one is up for a contract with Uber. I at least one of the potential vendors to provide an air taxi that future air taxi concept that Uber was pushing. So maybe we will ride when these things through one day, you think so I mean, I'm a little skeptical. This is ever going to happen. It looks cool. It looks really futuristic. This is going to the mass market skeptical as well. But I really really want this to happen because I hate feisty traffic and anything that can get me out of traffic. I'm down for it. You just kind of fight through flying car traffic. It's down those. George Jetson was in traffic all the time. That's what happened Joe. How about that motorcycle? That can drive itself. Self-driving motorcycles on so dangerous. Just seems wrong. It's a concept from BMW, but CSS full of concepts. And so if you go to their area in the parking lot, this motorcycle is just driving around on its own. It's not meant to be something that would be a product. It's just showing that they have the smarts to do it. And to be able to learn with machine learning and kind of take that to another step that consumer could use. But oh, man, I feel very Terminator three right now. Kind of like transformers by. Yeah. That that's things going to like turn out and become your friend know, it's going to flip into a robot and to share this all. Hoffy. Nothing is going to kill us for. Sure great. It is a deceptive. Again, not another example of something that will almost certainly never hit the mass market. But maybe I don't know. Maybe I'm being a little too down on self driving cars there. Other autonomous cars here. Right. Believe there was a Mercedes Benz concept called a vision urban. Yeah. That one was pretty interesting. It's really futuristic looking and the roadshow team actually tested it out on the strip the idea there is that it's modular. So you can either it can be a people mover or it can be like a transporter of stuff, you just kind of like swap out different parts video of it now. But yeah, like really looks futuristic that one that one looks pretty cool. It's shut down the street to show this off see that's the thing is that with self driving cars, it's still such early technology that it's still not quite yet ready for market. And I don't know. We'll we'll see what ends up. Happening with this one. Yeah. I mean, it's Mercedes. So of course, it looks really nice. But yeah, again, it's gonna take a while for anyone of us as actually going to try this real world environment, right? Apparently this fits twelve people to fairly comfortably. So. Yeah. Really nice little leather couches there. It's a nice touch looks. Well, also, there's plenty of ways to have fun at CS without having future. Cars there's a lot of workout stuff. I've noticed like boxing related things more than one even one was like the box spot. I think you saw right. What boxer? Is this smart threat box boxing training? Could see it on the screen now, it's moving punching bag essentially, and she looks way way better than I am I cannot do this. I looked tired just looking at this guy chance to try it out. It's smart enough to move. It can duck and dodge could tell you could scan your stance, and it could tell you what you're moving when you should be moving four back. It's actually a really cool. And actually, I guess it gives you a pretty decent idea of how to be a better boxer or fighter again. Yeah. But here's the but it's nine hundred nine thousand dollars, and it looks like massive. Yeah. Nineteen thousand gotta be only for one Jim professional boxing. Yeah. This is probably coming into gyms or someone who's really really really rich. Well, there was also that kind of like boxing service that felt like peleton for boxing too. So yeah, there's there's there's a movement to see like all right? How can robotics kind of be incorporated in a workout? But also like more. My speed was in our thing. You got to check out the chessboard. Yes. This was definitely more. My I got tired looking at the the box the baht boxer. There was Tennessee Malaysian right behind it. As like, no. I'm wondering suit. I can't do this. Okay. So this rain is a square off chessboards one of the coolest things I've saw to show it, basically, it's fairly simple, right? See the chess pieces moving on their own you can play against an AI with twenty levels of difficulty or you can play more interesting when you could play remotely against someone who's using an app. Outside they use her app on their phone and the chess pieces will move in real in real life. Replicating the moves from the app. It looks a show. That's so big. So flashy. I was kind of nice nicest see, this kind of quiet thing. It was tucked in the booth background check west wind back. I barely find it. It was so small they are coming to the stage later, so I can't wait to check. It out. Also surprising that that too is nineteen thousand dollars. Closer to I believe four fifty four sixty nine. So that's still more than I anticipated. But I would probably use that product. And well that sounds set that grandmaster set you just saw there the coolest feature. I thought you hit the reset button and all the pieces move back into place. Like, oh, really? Yes. Very Harry Potter s you see those pieces move their little robotic arms underneath the board and magnets that basically pull them all together. And so I was cool were you playing the computer or someone else when you're doing? Between an app where you can actually access players or challenge players on chess dot com, and then they can play via their browser and it controls the board. Okay. Okay. I thought one again one of the coolest things I saw the show. Yeah, for sure. Well, I don't know. If you guys have any other cool things you want to highlight for me. I was excited to hear that the UB tech. Walker was back last year the Walker had no arms. It was just like a like a robotic body with legs. I was kicking soccer balls around and going downstairs, and now this guy looks like a full on Butler, and they can get you snacks. I mean, that's all I really one life. This is this is what Honda Asimo was trying to be right. And here OBI tag is done it. And in this demo with Andrew here. They were going around. He was getting different things for him even doing a few dances. Because you know, if you're going to have a robot that cost as much as a car, probably you might as well have a dance party or to Pringles, so helpful. Yeah. So it does look alike Asimov stores. That one's by Sony or no that was Honda. And they abandoned that project, but he goes dancing there. But with this one they even are working on their own, speech recognition technology, and they have other robots to is which were seen. So they have other robots for like when you're going shopping and stuff and being able to interact with consumers, and that's coming to America sometime and also at airports, you know, for customer service, but that actual humanoid one is good enough to be like in someone's home, if they need assistance, and that's the goal and had also we'll be able to understand your voice commands that is the market, right? The home like how much is would one of these things or do they not talking about last year? They were like expect to pay as much as a car, but we're not going to say, they still aren't saying, you know, what kind of car exactly so we are in a stage. It's so early for the idea of the companion robots something that can actually help someone with living assistance in the house. We've seen the cute little fuzzy doggies not fuzzy, but they're cute. We've seen all sorts of little like birds that go around and. Like, oh, I wanna companion pets. But this is actually like the first one I've seen that can be a helper in the house. Wow. Well, for me, it's I'm a mobile guy. And I know this isn't really a show for phones, but the honor view twenty was one of the highlights that I saw it was a it was a couple months ago in China. But we got a chance to see here in the US for the first time six point four inch display. It has one of those owned notch cutouts notch on the top. There's a little oh on side for the selfie Cam. Which Samsung Khan tease at the developer conference, if you months ago, but honor which is owned by wall way. Actually got out. I got forty eight mega pixel three d camera which is the same. Really? I just like the way looks look at the aesthetic Shane it's super shiny. I don't know. I guess I'm fooled by shiny objects. But yeah, I I guess I would say the impossible burger two point. Oh, wait, then possible burger. Yeah. Well, look, I haven't tried it yet. But it definitely sounded like it was significantly better. And not only that. But well, explain to anyone doesn't know when the possible burger is okay. The impossible burger is like a veggie burger. But it's meant to simulate me as much as possible. So apparently our own Joni Saltzman tried it out. And was grossed out by it tasted so much like me. Oh, Esa video context. She's vegetarian. Yes. She's she basically said felt so real that gross around it bleeds. Right. It has a little so they say there's a little bit of that juiston. And I've had one point. Oh, and the original one, and it didn't it didn't taste like. Chief to me. I had it earlier this week. And I was not no this is not this is not a hamburger. Yeah. But everyone seems to rave about this CS. We always do a burger ran. I think we're going to add to our. Unless it's white castle. I'm not eating it. Sorry.

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Introducing Single Daddy Daily with Drew Manning and Evan DeMarco

Single Daddy Daily

26:12 min | 1 year ago

Introducing Single Daddy Daily with Drew Manning and Evan DeMarco

"Hi, and welcome to single daddy daily. I'm Evan DeMarco here with my great friends remaining, and you guessed it. We are single dads. I've got a five year old daughter and Bruce got two daughters. Nine and seven how do we joke, the responsibilities of raising our kids co-parenting working, and even Dedi season? One of the single daddy daily podcast is the honest complicated journey of two guys. Navigating the waters of single parenthood. Join me, I'm drew an Evan in a raw look at what it takes to balance a successful career dating and most importantly, being present parent together with guests, we're going to tackle, many of the difficult topics that so many of us parents face on this show. We are coming at you. With stories of interviews and more to discuss a topic that affects almost half of all people who get married and have kids what it's like to be a single parent. This podcast is meant as a tool for single parents since we're raising our kids, single dads. We've got. A lot of stories to share. And of course, some advice to give but first listeners, you should know a bit about who you're dealing with. So years and years and years ago, I was watching late night, TV and Leno pops on and Leno starts talking about this trainer from the Salt Lake City area who gained a bunch of roads. So he could understand what his clients were going through in the weight loss process. Yeah, the crazy sounds like a crazy, so it's funny, however many years later, I'm at a party, and I meet this guy the same guy that went on Leno gained all this weight lost it, and I walk into this party and I see this guy. And I'm like, wow, he's good looking. And in shape and clearly lost all that weight. So turns out, you know, we knew some people in similar circles. And after all, that time after you being on Leno, you kind of going through your journey Migo into my journey were sitting here in Los Angeles talking about being single parents. So. It is kind of crazy. So for people who don't know you give us a little bit background. Yeah. So it's interesting back in two thousand eleven was when I did fit to fit. That's what most people know me from a little bit of background before that happened, though. So I grew up in San Diego, California until I was about thirteen. I grew up in a family of eleven brothers and sisters grip. Very strict Mormon religion, religious family family. Yeah. Very small family, you know, eleven kids. So, you know, I never had bedroom, I think until as a senior in high school a while and. I we, we play sports played football and wrestling. We're always very active. You know, before social media, we hadn't been an intendo on that was only video games that have played so techmo bowl and in those kinds of games, but for the most part, I was active in shape, my whole life, and I grew up in a very I would say black and white culture of it's either this way or the highway right year. They're in a student or you're enough student. Right. That's the way the no middle no middle ground it that your perfect or your failure. That's kind of my perception of me growing up. So it was very kind of a harsh upbringing as far as that goes, but I mean I was very blessed. I always have food on the table always had close. You know, we always had a car and, you know, a house overheads. So in two thousand eleven had this idea to fit. And the reason I did that was because here, it was a personal trainer someone who had never been overweight day in their life, trying to help people who were overweight majority of their life. And there's an obvious disconnect. I couldn't understand why it was so hard for people just to do what I was telling them to do it. Here's your meal plans should work out. It's not that hard. You put the junk food down. You go to the gym, boom. You see results like why aren't you following? Right. They would tell me I you know, I'm I was really sore and get to the gym where a concept in or, you know, I was at a party and kind of gave in at some food. I know it shouldn't have, and I'm like I don't understand why it's so hard. And they would tell me you for you. It's always been easy, and for me, it's really hard. And so I took that to heart, and I thought maybe there's something I need to do as a trainer to benched. Emmett clans in this idea of fit popped up in so I gained seventy pounds of pure fat and six months to gain, a better understanding of what it was like to be overweight. And you know what it was one of the most humbling things of ever done. It was one of the hardest things ever done. And a it was very eye. Opening a top new perspective on health and fitness and weight loss and how just how hard they journey is. And you know, went on a bunch of TV shows like. Leno like you mentioned dot draws and good Morning America. But it was all luck I didn't have a marking shredded yet didn't have a PR team helping me. I just kind of had this idea started website and YouTube channel, and before, you know, it made on all these TV shows wrote a book about this whole journey called fit to fit to fit. Luckily lost the weight. That's why it's called fit fit not fit defense, stuck or fat and happy. Now, just fit. I made it back, but with a whole new perspective on transformation, and especially on the mental emotional side of transformation. That was my biggest takeaway, the book became a success. The book turn into a TV show where two seasons of TV show called fifth on any putting other trainers through this process so they could come out of it more empathetic more more respect and better standing for the clients. And that's kind of what I built my brand on here we are today with, you know, kind of in the key to space now, teaching people about the Kito have a new book called complete Kita, which just launched and. Thank you. Thank you books are not easy in what's written a book knows, writing a book, that's not even the hardest part of the whole process is it's editing and the marketing and all the, the media appearances, you have to do and so much goes into book, you know, but yeah, feel very blessed and fortunate with whatev- created this far. But yeah, that's kind of what most people know me from so. That's incredible. Right. The whole span of your career. And let's, let's get into it. How old are you? Thirty eight years old thirty eight years old, eight years young. And at some point, ladies and gentlemen, you're actually gonna see a lot of the pictures and a lot of the video content on here. So you're gonna see drew is the not in shape want on. Drew Evan look like a before. And after picture of of, you know, I'm fat he's fits. I don't think we're going to buy that. He he's just the genetically superior one. So you've gone through all of this. You've had this incredible career even spires so many people. But when we started talking I love how passionate you are about what you do, but something else, kind of permeated the conversation when we really got down to the nuts and bolts in your passion wasn't necessarily in getting people in shape. It was something else. Yeah. And that's being a father. Yeah. That's kind of my main purpose ever since you know, this whole journey, you know, my purpose in life is definitely. There's something fulfilling helping people with physical transformation. Of course, it's cool to see someone transform and like get their life back in that confidence. Like I love seeing that, but then in the day for me, what's fulfilling is being dead? First and foremost, you know, we're both to divorce guys, and you can say whatever you want about, you know, you know, failing in marriage or being married. But as a dad, like for me, etc. Happy man, if I failed everything else, but I was. Successful dead more. Yeah. And so for me it's, it's a priority is something that I love to do. And think about it. We only have short period of time with our kids like before they become teenagers. Wanna play with other kids and go out with their friends, and then they go off to college. And like, wow, man that went by so fast, it already is going by fast, even though our kids are still young. It's home by so fast. I don't have a short period of time to make an impact so we do the best. I can, you know, with short time that have well that's one of the big challenges that we're going to discuss season, one of single daddy daily is that time gets cut in half as a divorce or gets cut even more as a as a single parent. So now, you're balancing that short amount of time with all the other things that you have to do. It's how do we actually accomplish that? So I don't wanna get too far into it in this particular. But give us a little bit of background about how you became a father and then ultimately a single father. Yeah. So I was married for ten years, just with my. Wife Lynn who were still good friends to this day. We had two beautiful daughters one and two thousand nine one and two thousand eleven Calera and Kiana. They're nine and seven years old. And I remember with their first child, the thing that really impacted me wanted to be the best at it could be was reading this book called strong fathers, strong daughters, and can remember the name of the author apologize to the name to the author of this book is such an impactful book, but really opened my eyes put it in the show notes. It's so important that the role of father daughter relationship that relationship, specifically is such an important role in daughters development. Right. You know daughters. Learn how to love from their moms, but they learn how to be loved from their dads. And after reading that book, it just a light, you know, switched on me of this is who you need to be right for this girl, and I kinda see from a different perspective with my dad growing up. And you know. I have nothing. But love my parents. Right. They did the best that could with what they have. But my dad, you know he wasn't really good at showing love and I think that's just maybe environment who grew up in right? He showed love in different ways right by providing you know, you know, income and food and a house for us. But I see my sisters and how they struggled with their self self esteem in their confidence, because they were never told that their loved or shown that they loved and to see the kind of, you know, choices because of that in their life. It was really hard. I think for them to develop that that self love and it clicked for me, you know, I need to show my daughter's that type. They need to learn that type of self love from me as a dad to let them know that they're loved. And it's okay to love themselves and that they are good enough. And so that's what I wanna do to my girls. Take the good things I learned from my parents, but the things that maybe were missing that I'm aware of now. Pass it onto my girls. That's wonderful. Yeah, thank you. So they're nine and seven now and what is your parenting plan look like? How often are you spending with them? What is yeah. We so like I said, we're good friends. Everything was amicable. We actually I think we spent nine hundred dollars on an attorney to or a mediator to just a foul the paperwork force. We agreed on everything before that. This is the point where I'm starting to cry because I recognize how much I spent on attorneys. And it was just a little bit more than nine hundred more view. I, I know men and I, I feel so fortunate that we were in the position we were in when we made that decision. So I'll get into that those we'll get into those details later. Yeah, we agreed on everything it was very amicable very easy. So I have a one week on when we got from my girls. And in the summertime, we do one month on month off just kind of travel, and spend more time with them during the summer, and obviously with the book tours with everything that you do with all the public speaking your travel a lot. Yeah. So, you know, t tell us a little bit about what some of your biggest challenges are as a single parent. That's so hard men, I think a lot of it's being present in with my girls because in the world we live in, you know, social media never sleeps. So, like if your business built on social media, it's Facebook comments Instagram, comments messages, emails. Youtube Twitter like all these podcasts that we have to create and all these things we need to do. It's easy, just to put a screen in front of you and your kids and be like I gotta work for an hour. Here's a screen for you guys. And that's my biggest thing I feel guilty about the I really do. Because like I said, I only have a few years left of this kind of time with my kids, where they want to spend time with me, I know when they get older, they're gonna want to go out with their friends, because, you know, it's cooler to do that kind of stuff. And so for me, I'm like, man. I want to cherish these moments as much as possible. So my challenge, always, I think everyone out there is trying to find ways to be as presidents possible and give that quality along with quantity. Like one day a week from isn't enough. Like I had my girls every other weekend, that would be so hard for me because I feel like I'm fulfilled when they're with me, right? They're not with me. Luckily, I'm gonna place now where I am okay with not having them for a week because that gives me a chance to catch up and get stuff done and travel. And then, you know, take a break, and then boom Beck back into fulltime parenting when I. Do have them, which makes me have so much more respect for people that are full-time single parents. Like that's a whole different level right there. It's a whole different game as a fulltime single-parent. How do you ever travel? How do you have time to yourself or get a break, don't? Yeah, no so hard. So a lot of respect I posted about this. Lot, my social media lottery spec for fulltime single parents, as do I and I think, you know, we'll get into this a little bit, but I think we both have such demanding travel schedules. And so it you know, how do you as a single parent with the ability to take a break even balance that? But yeah you throw. I'm a I'm a single parent by myself and trying to generate an income and provide food and clothing and shelter. And then be a present parent, like I haven't slept since my divorce. I can't imagine what it would be like, yeah, yeah, well let's, let's learn about you, Evan who's DeMarco. And, you know, hindsight's always twenty twenty so help us connect the dots of, you know, where you came from. And what led you to where you are today? Great question. So, like you I kinda grew up sports. Sports was always in my background. And, and I think going way back into time I kind of had a really interesting upbringing. So my parents, my biological parents got divorced when I was three and this was at a time in Colorado, which is where from where there was definitive custody. And then, you know you had visitation rights my biological father at the time. Didn't really like the decision of the court. And so he kidnapped me. To Florida and I was on the guy's missing children's report for about six months. So in the funny thing is three years old. I still remember this. I actually remember that sense for my mom. I remember you know, being in this room where he dropped me off at his sister's house, in just disappeared. So remember, just for hours on and, you know, crying by myself, and in that sense of longing. So finally found me brought me back and my mom remarried a great guy. But I think like your dad is didn't really know how to show love. He came from very militant type of background is, you know, as father was military. And so he was shown love and very, here's maslow's hierarchy of basic human needs. You know, you've got close. You've got a house. You've got food. What else do you want? It as much as he tried. I think he was very difficult for him. Even especially as a stepfather to really show that. And so I grew up probably like you in a sports was my outlet. I was an angry angry teenager, pissed off at the world. And but sports was always my, my background and was always my way to kind of scape the confines of the home that I just wasn't always. I didn't always feel great then. And so played football played baseball. Baseball's my big sport. You know, professional boxing, one, one fight, only because I don't like getting punched in the face. And then, you know, my dad was also a cabinet maker. And so he kind of showed me what I didn't wanna do. I had this idea that Mike, I'm gonna go sit in an office where three piece, suit and work on paperwork. And so I did that I got that job working on Wall Street and became an investment banker, and I hated every minute of it every day, I would put on that suit and tie, a little bit of my soul dia. So after the mortgage collapse and kind of Wall Street was in shambles on my acquired a sports nutrition company from a business perspective. But then it really reignited my passion to be back in the sports, and how, you know, the, the, the health and wellness world. So went back to school and started setting like all the biochemistry organic chemistry stuff that no one really likes and I fell in love with it. And so I was able to get into product development, and that's where I really found. My passion was developing products for people to help them in their health and wellness journeys. Met. A woman fell in love. Got married moved to Sacramento California and you know nothing against Sacramento. But he was that kind of relocation was the catalyst for a lot of issues in my life. And the things that all own quite candidly, as you know, I never did a good enough job of accepting that as my new home left, my family left my friends, follow this woman out to Sacramento in just kinda got stuck in a rut there. And we had a incredible girl a beautiful baby girl. And at that moment, like you I recognize that she was to steal a line from a movie everything. I never knew I always wanted movies. It was one with Chandler, Matthew Perry. Oh, like Matthew Perry and Somma Hayek, how. Oh, is that one in Vegas where they meet the only fools Russian yeah? Yeah, great. At one point. He says, everything I never knew I always. Is wanted? Yeah, it takes a little bit to process that, that's she came out. She sitting on my wife's chest, the skin-to-skin contact. And I just reached down and grabbed her hand. And she, like, she, she grabbed my finger with, with her tiny little hand squeeze him. I was shocked. This is this is what I'm supposed to do. Yeah. And like you, I think we're probably two guys that really take whatever it is that we do seriously like the future of this girl's life trajectory for life is going to be determined. What I do is apparent by what I do as a parent. Yeah. So that was. That was my calling all the work all of the business, everything aside. I really wanted to be the best parent that I could. And unfortunately that wasn't enough to keep my marriage together. But now more so than ever. It's my responsibility. My passion my drive. The thing that keeps me going, you know, when I don't think that I have any gas left in the tank is to be the best parent that I can. And I think that led us, you know, sitting at this table here in Los Angeles talking about being single parents. But that, that to me is the job that I take the most seriously in the thing that I really wanna do to, to leave a lasting impact in her life is to make sure that she knows how love she has that she has all the tools necessary that the failure of my marriage does not define her. But the relationship that she has with the two parents that brought her into this world helps to find everything that she doesn't her life. Yeah. And I'm sure we'll get into that role of as a parent. How do you separate your kid from your decisions and your ex wife's decisions from affecting? In her because I think that's really important for all the parents out there to recognize and remember to remind your kids of that, right? Because they might still be constantly searching widen at workout, but a couple of questions about your story, your dad after your biological dad. Where was he like trying to get in contact with you re we're able to see him again? Or did he go to jail or what happened? No. I haven't seen him since really. Yes. And so he kind of went off the face of the earth. Sounds like you kind of did. The franchise thing where he went around and got remarried had a kid got divorced got remarried had another kid, interestingly enough, I ran into a niece of his when I was fifteen or sixteen and she kind of told me that he was in Boise. Idaho really show I hired a private investigator found him. And then I think I was eighteen and I might have I apologize for saying this, but I might have had a couple cocktails in me got a little little gutsy, and I called him because I had his phone number from the private investigator. He picks up the phone and tell them who I am. And he hangs up on me man. And that was one of those devastating moments. Right. Because, you know, I only heard about what had happened from my side of the family. So I never really got his side. And there's always this part of me that wondered, what am I not understanding? What what's his side of the story? What really happened? Yeah. And then I had piper and I recognize that there's not a single force of on this universe. That could keep me from my daughter. And so ultimately, I kind of lost any respect I had because it doesn't matter what the story was. It doesn't matter what the catalyst is, and we're gonna talk a lot about this. I think as parents moving forward, but how do you show up for your kids every single day? And I don't care what the issue is literally. There's nothing that could keep me from my daughter. And so I recognize that being present parent being a great parents is more than just, just the act of creating child is the choices that we may. Every single day to show up as the parents that we need to be for our kids. Yeah. And I think it's hard to gain an understanding with any kind of closure of like how could someone have a kid and now want to be part of their life? Right. Like, like I think that's, that's a question that an even even if if if they weren't there physically. Right. Like your dad wasn't there. He just totally disappeared. They're still that sense of, you know, having a parent that maybe as an president all the time. Right. And it still checks you in a certain way they can definitely my dad and my mom were always there, but they're raising living kids, and they were in survival mode. And so they were just trying to get through the day and feeders. Make sure we rely. But there was no emotional connection. There's no, like, hey, you know, you proud of me and my good enough, there's no conversation like that. And so, I think it leaves avoid sometimes in people's lives of like, okay, you know, finding that purpose and it took us a while there. Once we had our own kids to realize that, but I. We'll get into this probably a little bit more in detail of pride. The struggles we had grown up from, you know, a lot of our issues stem. I think from our parents love their didn't Lewis, you know, in my opinion. So we'll get into that a little bit later but I'll be totally honest with you, man. I didn't know all this about you. Like I didn't know these stories. I was like if you could see my face, I was like, you know, this like incredible. Like what you've been through man, and everyone has a story, and it's, it's I think it's really cool that we able to have this podcast to share our stories but, you know, everyone that's listening. You know, we know that everyone has a story out there and it's an important story and we're here to help bring, you know, light or understanding to the role of being apparent right? And being a dad mom, this is, you know, it's called single daddy daily. But, you know, I it's, it's applicable to almost any parent out there and a lot of us have kids and, you know, we have responsibility now to break that cycle of what was passed on from. Generations before to now and it's up to us to break that cycle with our kids. Absolutely. You know, I couldn't have said it better myself. And I think that's really what we're here to do. Right. As we. This is one of the things that I got so excited about when I met you when we started talking about this as we both have that passion. We both want to make sure that people don't feel alone in this journey. You know, our greatest asset our greatest resources are kids in how we cultivate them how we help them through what ultimately our decisions as parents sets the stage for their future success, their future happiness. And that's what this is about single daddy daily is our journey that we want to share with people, but we're gonna open this up a lot. We're gonna, you know, I think we posted on social media. We've already got a lot of questions that are coming in. So part of every show is going to be dedicated towards answering the questions but more than anything, this show is a tool that people can utilize just one tool in the toolbox. But most importantly, just to recognize that you're not alone out there as a single parent, even if you're maybe you're married, but you just want some tips. That's we're here to help parents in any way that we can make sure that we are cultivating and supporting the greatest asset of our kids, the I think how we break that cycle. Was by you know, using these platforms like a podcast or a blog or video series to give that information have those those tough conversations with people because we didn't have those resources as kids. And our parents didn't have these resources. It was like just figure it out. And hopefully it turns out, okay because that's what my parents did. And their parents did. But now we have so many resources like, you know, having that support group of like minded people going through the same struggles very powerful and, and learning from other people and be on being able to communicate you know, your struggles, and that's what we're trying to provide here. So thank you guys so much for, for listening. We're super appreciative of, of the audience out there and looking forward to meeting a lot of you in person and hearing about you guys in your your struggles as well. Goodness that about myself. So we're so excited jump into this podcast with you. And now that, you know, a little bit about who we are. You'll know what to expect going forward, some of the themes will touch on the season or dating our relationships with our Xs co-parenting being a modern dad sleepovers. Conflict, Disneyland parenting, and more. So we hope you stick with us. Thanks for tuning into fingle baddies daily hosted by Evan DeMarco and drew manning. We recorded at the village workspaces podcast. Studio in Los Angeles, California, this podcast has been produced by area on this and Blatt and Caccia live ten go if you like what you year, please make sure to subscribe to this podcast rate and review it on items and follow us on Twitter at single daily an Instagram at single. Daddy, daily help spread the word mutter snow. You think of shave maitre, tune in for our next episode should be right here on your podcast feet until next time.

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E52: The (New) World According to Barry Hearn

Unofficial Partner Podcast

36:09 min | 8 months ago

E52: The (New) World According to Barry Hearn

"Hello welcome to unofficial partner. I'm Richard Gillis. So here's a question for you in a Straw poll unofficial partner listeners. Who was sports business personality. They wanted to hear from most of all during the current virus. Schist does anyone answer to that one. Barry hearn needs no introduction. But we'll give him on anyway today. Mattru is one of the biggest producers of live sport in the world the massive zone. Boxing deal world snooker and Darts through to ten pin. Bowling Ping Pong and cop fishing. The company hosts one hundred fifty events a year and creates more than ten thousand hours of available programming for television partners. That's a big hole to fill and we talked about everything from what he wants to hear from Boris Johnson through. Aj Tyson fury to the wrongness of Karren Brady and that Kassai. At pay per view fight was so wrong impossible to be willing to change because it didn't look when it comes to managing packaging marketing and selling sport. There's nobody that comes close to bury her for the real inside line and helps that he's laugh out loud funny as well so savor this one. It's great our thanks. Go out to L. Mate Gary Link for putting this together for us and enjoy. Thanks very much for doing. This is well. I'm just looking at a picture of you. That's all we're rocky mountains gearing up after salmon fishing all these slippers just passed me this photo by Wasser. That was one of the great ships. And I'll go back there. I get this situation cleared up quickly. He said you didn't go to take a phone call for about four days and then suddenly your son Marines eighty rings up and he said it's the first time he's seen you speechless. Funny Bounce it had been much very very graduated with with the etiquette. Licey WE HAVE WROUGHT. Nutri had talked with Iraqi a signal for the first time old guys and until off. I did on that. 'cause I wonder Raw Eddie White Southerners we send unfair and he said of your lots of what they're like. Bolognaise a woman did. He fell off the fucking record. A complete album stops matches. Only Corradi Strip. Go out to seven hundred horse. So how do you deal with this The current thing there were the USO of not getting dressed till noon tight or USO. A Big Lebowski shirt and tie are times that no one in my generation. Does it come across? Alas Bobby you'd have to compare it to the Second World Wars where we're being bombed in effect but by supposed be called sale. Hit Star is difficult but at the same time north. Guys all these sticks these at least diet awakes. Or wherever we have to do we'll begin with because we're planning constantly all racially and coming up with creative ideas to get Gessler. They travel times a very that. We as a comedy stage around six hundred fifty event dice per year globally. So the logistic operation these point blowing up probably office next to the country had you constantly desperate pipe is because to plant in DC taints. And he's working on scenarios off. Labs if you're not. We got free wage period. Bought this this questions to be austere in that period. What we can call to this. Low-cost is around the world screaming programming. Because they've got nothing droids time people this mental health issues just paypal being bullied abs in humble struggling to Crisis so weary. Expo can help that sometimes looking. You know we don't pen so I don't think we've actually cancelled anything with the spawned everything because what we've done is to serve the weather. When that postponed rearranged I it comes up always inside positional dull. So you have to just have fly. You've paid saying placing with devoting spokes away promote rather will. That's a hell of a logistical problem. Which he's not coaching. Everything else is one of the grace of someone said the other day policy the trend. She's steady nextway because don panic. I mean I'm not perfect but I just tight. Welcome gives me element. We'll see. How many television is that the year? Wait for jobs. Live Events Hall has now's live and generally speaking that goes out as programming too for rap faulty thousand hours of global pro cost so without asking stupid questions. What what are the broadcaster. Saint Oversee Archive is is all sitting and watching clips and various things. But can have you got a hell. Can you help them in this sort of shorter? The eight ball clarification from government until he to central government joking to people. Just things that. I'm afraid Impala 'cause I think I should be orest comes out with the sweeping measures and I think totally justified measures loins like you can only travel to look. If he said Jill of advice for me I need to know what's he saying? Show is essential for your bread on the title for Your Watson Family. Find Your All or is that considered luxury Augusta I most of my spokesman weaving all self-employed whilst mattress deserve a very year. Nice will control as reserves top business in veteran slow as a company as Ed Year on year profit growth for the loss. That's he won. The is so we're you know we're fairly protected in today's world. I'm aware of Welsh mind. -ployees therefore very protected by the love of my life my playas spokesman. David annulled because they're self employed criterion gone cubs dollas events subject to government rules. If I'm allowed to do that and if I am out today than I can then take another box. Which is something on. Tv sprains around the world which is live and then signing although obviously lacking atmosphere that most of my veins have we have to live in the real world. But I still advocacy allowed to do that if I had. I'll be ready to rumble two weeks so it just is like watch the spice but give me a clearer indication when I seen the tube trying crabby capable guy to work. Obviously that doesn't fit into overseas suggestion but doesn't fit into his ruling that you Gotcha lucky if it's necessary coming. What is there? That's that's the definition on date in some clear guidance about the next day in the meantime you know we've gone after every single brokaw. Stern Wilder said Erie's ice suggestion of all college. Which is dive us every in from it because we go thirty odd years forty years so whether it's one of our fifth in Andrea boxing show. Who's that year remember? The Pasta might be quite tithing whether it's The molly will coffee she. Because you're pissed off. Stay now you really want to look at people losing big facial something it out whether it's a Sushi sniggered trick shots of yesteryear with a whether it's something pretty just something's happened in the last six months that you this is. There is a an opportunity to low-cost is taking a week on after everyone selected me seven hundred thousand dollars and said this is a viable We're not gonNA kill you because we know you're in a really tough position but we have a big responsibility to the world of sports fans of spoken around the world that sort of from all copies quite straightforward today with delivery technology. We can deliver that. Very simply. Cost effectively and hugs. I guess something of screens around the world which is accurate time. The bigger the biggest autumn. Everything is obviously to relieve the boredom of sin and you radiate SPO- An sinker adults in particular lend themselves to a limited number of people in a High Gini situation Exercising to May to rule that you can still get white with some type of lots of people would find tiny of my mic. The hours died as a little more bearable. What's what's your take on. I mean are we going to emerge from this the same? Do you think the sports business is going to look the same as it did going into this crisis. Is it going to? Do you think it's going to be different was going to happen causing harm Once in a lifetime did you ever come across and generally speaking view is that eventually. But there's GonNa be some casualties along the life clearly waiting look at cash loves whereas we've been privileged around run a business that can away money for a rainy day and got his pouring rather than being right near the. But that's okay because you have to question was money full down here. We also had this doubt in life to be bigger bekcer more financially successful and a spouse combination of big coming up for seventy two avenue a little bit more experience of the world. You don't actually need money as much as you might think you do if that makes any sense so in the shelter. There's an awful lot of paper that the round businesses on the devices. We used to call them cowboys years ago. That's probably a little bit disrespectful. Because they're better than cowboys much Benza. Though Albany companies out there have adopted the Victorian Life Ed technique of looking off yourselves. No matter what's the also is not not that many also introduce you know that we live in a society is cash today and spend Diana. Enjoy yourself and there's going to be an education period. I think they look into the law from this episode that lot. Where like maps come out this different attitude towards is to will spoke to those people to communities in government is not necessarily that tremendous by the shelter is going to be law able to doubt reserves down sightings bins in a one of the byproducts of low interest rate or cashing in your pension up to twenty five which has been the known for the reviews. Now he's that you dumb you tend to live for today you really create all GonNa spend it now because it'll be a lot next year at Youtube. That's that's privileged lots of businesses that we've stayed. I've a Gearan a purchase companies then forward against their assets because the interest is actually on the show saw. It looks sensible guessing. You know you can buy company but then where the interesting the move against you. Alway cash flow stops coming into your business oversight and you had no sustainability and that's a very harsh ESA which is gonNa be a lot of people over the next month. Low Turvy is going to be quite quick. People that were tried in profitably sub late of fun obsessive position where the not tried to toe and yet there are overheads too hard that there's GonNa be a law staff losses. I think the governor eighty percent of is an excellent one to be paid. So if you've not my Dr Sacrifices over the years if you're in a sustainable environment we cash reserves you can fall back on for Riley dies. You'RE GONNA go out business and that's GONNA have effects. Are The people that you employ and the society in which we live so I think my own so long winded asked you. A question is in the long run. I'm sure things will be ten to talk of normality but perhaps with better principles to go forward with in the real world instead of the show. Tub world by in the showtime. That could be three months to six. Months is going to be a law. Pine FOR LOVE IS A. There's a I mean is interesting. Your Business and I've heard you talk about. Before the importance of selling tickets getting people in venues Rather than the more sort of other ISA teric you know finding sponsorship or or you know media eyeballs all of those sort of abstract proxies for success. There were interesting moment. Because there's a lot of companies on the media side not just the traditional broadcasters but Jane to Amazon's and design own and ESPN with Disney. You've got a lot of people chasing sport. And it's great if you're producing high quality sport and there's a lot of money flushing around the the marketplace. But but how is that going to pan out because how many subscribers? How many tickets can people bear the you at the fan end of the spectrum because on the one hand as we're running numbers at the moment he's getting to compare the situation law boss situations because this is another level of Wayne? You postponed anything. Generally speaking not too many people prepared to white nothing that China shopping. When you postponed events health he pulled. All Oblique is gonNA happen. But they're doubtful because of the sense in the world the more lightning society when you when. I think he's really going to happen to credibility whether it's GonNa Happen of Abai game but it depending on need the money that initial kway bouncy stemming latitude intends with people don't have the money to Spain in the business slot mine various weird vote we twelve exposing different coastal customer promos. Somma much more they bought. Tv revenues. The only especially a law in possibles pain palm pull hem voted most hospitals of the massive crowds side. They're relying on dominantly television in a secondary on so she pinko now other folks in dots he is a high percentage of your income comes from actual ticket sales so it is different adjustments for Christmas. And YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO LOSE MONEY. W. After hours we are looking at now. What's effects on that car? Financial Year Ward pulled me because the effects on issues really beautiful woman wants the effects on Halloween. You an event is if we're not doing any pains we have no business therefore we had created behind closed doors and see in today's world or every Chinese. You what we could create. That feels avoid in the brokaw spectrum. Under the Caveat Wall we allowed to do contract back. Some are reasonable point hall. Chirac what we are in the his is a typical bodice night to this low absolute right and wrong wise doing things because spoke different speak. Boxing shows and announces Joshua against the end June. Talk clearly. That's very very unlikely. We haven't even gone south. I smelled really comparable with that. You'll look to respond Joshua Productivity Energy Law and then it comes to stage me. Think we're what off to that is. That was not possible as that. He's in the way of Rav ably when he had to stay out of your in camelback shug comes from guys who say's when we postpone a everything will pilasters from Djibril. We can reschedule that whenever because ninety percent of the funding of that comes from television and comes about the Mug with the television income is contractual and WASA television. Business does another issue around the world. We'll group fine dust this the worst thing about these forests. He's healthy intensity opium. That's bad enough. It's not having that shed. Joyce we usually expect ally where we complain because planning is subject to subject to awareness for said yesterday these restrictions of history weeks That's something of of of three weeks by the plan to the best case of being paid for the worst cuts just switching slightly. When you're looking as you say you're in multiple sports and what are you looking at new sports now looking at things that you think are currently undervalued that you think actually they could be done better? I mean I'll be challenging. I mean in the playoffs. I've been doing this since non settings off so call time I'm still only used in. The policy was very much. A question can do it better than this. Currently being dot on Detroit's betcha on its anoc enrolled the participants Benson. That was quite ways. He now what can we do? What's the dream about dreams anyway inside and outside of list the plight of combat but today's welby sloppy walls? It's different because we dating different talk to own hands with anyways. Different view inhabits. We're dealing with different technology so whereas when we first ocoee we look at what the incumbent costs of doing the safe is. He's not good. We can do bags up guys. How crude to be very very successful day. We looking at different talking. Balkan side we have to take into account that devolves desires of his target market which is dominantly a digital strug social media. If you want to group that together with people. While the biens Italian differently they want to view differently. They view on different appliances. That don't want to say I will. The sets even dad those days of them. If you can be more creative and you can do programming. The trach five years ago you would have considered. This is something. We talked about out to be optimistic in this. Go ahead on. I'm quite excited about because I've got the best hand probably in the world working because that top company that we attract the very best. They're all very creative. They're upset now with the Bible on game daily updates from everybody in what they do he thinking things and planning things. And what about you? I love this comes in the new world of social media that Eddie and his sipping these boxing extensive battery bounty spos- stoneking. They're thinking a little bit. Different out of the box. In the Laura can only be beneficial. What's the impact of in if you look boxing? You've got this what you're touching on there is. I mean this question is about Kassai and Logan Paul and you've got a moment there. I'm just wondering what the impact is that. That has been more broadly on boxing but also on the way in which people view how sport is marketed. You gotta remember the A lot. People Living Goldfish house above. Looks message to a Goldfish in a bowl win? The bigger will tiny and box. He's tawny terms of a global now is massive when the really big ones coming out. But he's actually the incumbent promoters of which I was one of many he is a filed to deliver to the targeting. All here's the product Eh. Watch whether they light out. No I really don't give a shit 'cause it's true. They're all very spoke uprising. The bigger picture of the world. We have to look outside saw that Fox and Goupil was an example of old fashioned thinking new life thinking you know what he said. I'm going to do this to your treatment as I've never heard of an offset buckeye around business. Somebody while they get do he said well. We're GONNA turn pro. They can have a six ramp fall then. Okay that's that's pretty harmless. I've been called me what we were going to pioneer defending champ. This is a six five three two is that look really quite is yes and billions of dollars when we don't really pay hasn't had much comparative Harrison of boxing traditional boxes because we decide senators Los Angeles. I'm GONNA be around the world. Tell me fell out this is. She's I against everything of it. And to the extent honest out mortified also announce a numbers of the Greysteel. Numbers is so much better than people because number of law bullshit is. 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You have to come out from behind this goldfish Powell project looking at the whole world then you realize that more people tuned in on sky with that five four vote then cheer Dean Trentini Juncture. Get his anti Rua's Madison Square Gardens. Payment America signed up to Zahn that pot who signed up for the lost canal. I bought the viewed on tight not so challenging marketplace. My friend you'll out that marketplace speakers you yesterday and Fortunately People Are Idiots. Fission Paul Debate and serve me. Hobbled and the other so-called moten. Boxing authorizes their APP and they also taught me the bigger picture. And you have to cross that opportunity. I'm what it means is suddenly stop professional boxing coast. Now you incorporate different attributes of misspoke. Maybe look at them. I in a different lot might be. Usa Model has done super. Because I listened. A boxing didn't so we're in a Chinese world but as long as it comes down to we're in a painful business we're in we're in a business web people by the business happened through their own creativity but I ask them to the people that WanNa Watch that is it is it does it. Just go back to your. You know you built stars around snooker around boxing and nearly so and one of the one of the things that is happening to sports stars is the sport sciences. Making them a bit less interesting. It is very hard to have. You know to have the lifestyle that we will lavas punters but also win And I'm just wondering if the influe- The rise of some of the influences is a sort of antidote to that because actually we're saying we don't care they're less talented sports people but we know them as people saying giant ability is always going to be in pole but being famous. He's actually more important financially. So you can be the best in the world of what you do with your secret in today's commercial world you Mike. Any money amiss goes back to the personality. Let business when we started. Religiously alt-right on the vices of everything was everything was coronation street and today's Willoughby's just extending from that so everything's reality say isn't it. People are fighting for being famous in the sponsor well being goodwill. What's clear now is he's not just being good. It's being good at being famous whereas today's athletes and spoke little women around the world of definitely better trained better lead better nutrition better coached. Benza. Facilities Battery equipment is not how old enough it's not necessarily two blocks component of Coke's people wanNA watch excellence. I mean wh if you'd is will Marshall came down. Never been to this world. Before and swollen spoiler professional dots for example anything do this dots was a pop. Guy House right back to medieval arches. And suddenly you stay Kratz take fifteen thousand. People can't even see the stage watching the big strains while they're having a faulty. I wonder whether we think that was rusefel. But you say the traditionalist. Yesterday's news and the purest the talk about Jive all is dot. Za rusefel because it wasn't in the Olympics. I all yesterday and that all day in because they spoke this me right I'm GonNa Finish with the Football was Karen Brady Ri- should they stop the stop? The season now and and stock in our Brady was so wrong. It's impossible to be will host when you will go difference about the rent a guy you should. I mean Ahmed Believer in self interests. I understand human nature to stay will boss by our own personal situation. She should've cakewalk because they didn't look with field his I'm about a potentially market renegades. Let's void the seasons of Gripe glides ago about things even though what she was citing had some troops to if the season called British. But what everybody's busy season is not over Islam? You always know in the Fat Lady sings down a seasonal over to the season. He's a new season. Doesn't start to the previous season as a basic rule of law integrity. In both you have to apply now whether you apply beyond close those or whether you're just GonNa White and say otherwise. The new footloose as a as a stop to said ten October November. We'll live with it and we'll work around it and we'll come up with some solutions in the meantime you don't start a new season until the SE sneeze down otherwise you lose the credibility of the SPO in the binds and hawks of the people that follows care of lesser cotton subsidies. A Very Young Lady. Very broadly entirely. She should've catch a NASA astronaut album. Kate Amash out not by the been happy mind. Too often so hypocrites well look at the overall integrity Livable ultra moment. Would be a disgrace. Unfavorable things that they'll get relegated because for one reason of the season was declared null and void. Where does that come? Season is not numbered. Season is unfinished and we stay until we finish last question. Aj versus Tyson Fury. What's going to happen? How is when can we win? When are we going to see that? We going to say anything. Toss Jerry's got William stood much. We'd be on Wall Patino clearly. There's a lot I was. I thought he's managing gets. Both did. Same situation applies food of ways. We're cokes but citing into uncharted wombs. He and there's always always just magnificent his knees just Saturday enjoyment such a passion because comes up and keeps you in the nuts just when you done expected we expect ruins to Joshua at Madison Square. Dobbs that'd be Ridiculous Authority restaurant other light to eat. Oeste all was a disaster because the rematch was probably the highest price. Gross making money biking. Heavy Whitehall talk tossing during lunch happen again. 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Womens Boxing, with World Champion Alicia Ashley

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Womens Boxing, with World Champion Alicia Ashley

"Daria Riley up. Nice. It's he's playing with. This. We had the privilege of speaking of boxing legend Sugar Ray, Leonard, which was such a pleasure and a big deal for the pain with science family. So it's only right to share the stage with the women because some seriously heavy hitters view, an Astro physicist end a professional boxer. Yes. At Frederica Bianco, golden gloves hall of fame and world champion Alicia Ashley and boxer trainer. Entrepreneur and relented pissed and founder of boxing and Barbault's one. And only carry William so round one Chuck who's I in the ring right now, we get to speak to boxing's bad ass. That's right. We're talking professional boxer and astrophysicists Frederica Bianco. How are you? Good. You bring the world of boxing and astrophysics together. What a perfect it's like you were made for playing with science. Right. I really thought like Mary have really does. So let me ask you. You know? When you look at the cosmos, and you look at you look at the ring are there any areas of boxing and astrophysics that overlap in such a way where the to inform one another or that, they're very similar. No. I mean to say that they will be very similar course Dame for me too. For me. Both of them have to do a lot with like, my confidence and my south awareness and my ability to like sort of analyze things. And they learned from one from the other and bring back and forth, the experience of one and the other in the boxing ring. My my name anytime is the Matt scientist. So we should say that I'm really in analytical and scientific boxer non at hard. I'm really really a brawler. But did the skill in the sport these that of like staying calm, and I don't know. So that's fair. Rica is correct you were dancer as well. As a martial artists before you became a boxer. I was I was not in the sense that I was not a professional dancer, but that's how it started. Yes. Night have to the ring came through dancing and then couple era, which is sort of it then since tire, martial, art and boxing. You knew a leash actually was once a dancer, and and and when we spoke with Sugar Ray, Leonard he talked to about the choreography he talked about how is adults and it's worked once and that actually really keep on that people might not think might not come through as we are wear in the ring. But at least as far as I live self, and I know that stools released like you also wanna think about it as a performance. Right. Absolutely. So now that you said that since its performance and. It requires a great deal of concentration. It would seem like boxing, just take so much concentration. Almost to the point where you gotta have tunnel vision and block out so many other things and since it's a performance. So does being scientists give you an edge in terms of that concentration since like the scientific disciplines requires so much concentration and kind of just training your thoughts in one direction. Would you would you would you say that's the case or have you ever thought about it? So I think no, I think about the things the law, really. But I think that the tendency and the training in problem, solving is helps me sort of thinking about martial arts that way, so that perhaps works a little bit more clearly in the training than when you're actually I think because when you fighting don't get me wrong. Like, it is like a puzzle that you're trying to solve right? How do I take advantage of the things them? My opponent is doing to get an edge. It might not be argues when one is fighting because he's looks like very chaotic from the outside. But as you said, you really need to be sharply focused and on the inside Erie's service, surprisingly, calm place. I've heard it from some other boxers describing how things sort of happen in flow motion while you're fighting, and you kind of have very part of you is kind of like very unlivable Kalman cold observing. What is happening which is? Of course, not what it looks like when you're you know, you have somebody who's trying to take your head off Luke bring. I see when I was reading before we get to speak today. You describe yourself. I love this as a student of life and say that you see poke seeing as a mind clearing experience. You can have to explain that more. Please. Right. So just what I said about the fact that it's all about being collected and called inspire. The chaos around you imaginatively in that sense. Very nice. So let me ask you. This was it. I mean for women, boxers, which I see the boxing has really grown in popularity because of the training, and the workout. So every seems like every Jim now has has a boxing workout that that they offer. But you need so much more than that. When you're training for a fight and steal sharpen steel. So how do you find your sharpener in a sport where there's not that many participants let Vegas point? So when I started boxing in California was in Santa Barbara, and there were far fewer tunics aspire with women in Santa was regularly starring with guys, and you know, there's there's advantages to that guys sent to be faster their punches to be a little bit more stinging. So that kinda gives you an. But also there's these advantages because of the level of intensity and the competition is a little bit different given that there is a radio like a well known knowledge difference in the minority. Two people that are aspiring in New York. It's it's kind of a blessing that there are many women. So, you know, I'm Lisa because I started sparring with her when she was getting ready for a fight. We all know each other. We all Spar with each other. You very often end up fighting people that you certainly know and that sometimes they you have sparred with of course, they're only as good as you know, as as you can be one as the people that train. Really, right. You just it's not in individuals for this is by what it looks like it's very much a team sport and your training partner. Your sparring partners are very much part of the team interesting. So what would you say to anyone not just women, but anybody who's interested in box? That might inspire them to try it. So I think. You know, as you said, it's getting more and more popular because of the fitness that is involved. It is a tremendous fitness exercise, it really tops on a lot of things like sort of, you know, a lot of parts of your body are involved. So it's a very healthy exercise like pull your entire physiology. There's a lot of cardio and also there is the aspect of the focus which makes it more intriguing than just doing physical exercises as far as boxing, competitively rain. How getting in the ring everybody, you know, you people that train boxing should try because in my experience the feeling about it is very different. The one expects it to be any goes both way. I've heard people say like, you know, I'm sharing Jim just for training be like no because I want to become a professional boxer. So I see my trajectory like three years I want to be professional and getting punched in the face. I realized how big mistake that was that. They did not. All what have anything to do with that? But at the same time people that do not think of themselves as fighters that do not think then sons as a recipe or competitive in that way, really in that's not the feeling that you have inside the ring. So it has a very different feeling from the inside reminded from the outside and seen people that never thought they would like just fall in love. I bunch. I mean, I must ask you for Rica. Just how tough is it in the women's boxing sane because it's it's nowhere near on par with the men's side of the sport. So how tough is it for the business side, everything all of it? So well, let's say it's getting better. But he begins with you gotta find a trainer that wants to train you. So somebody that believes that women Kim box. Everybody believes that women can shoot box. Also is a bit of an all school sport. And so not every train areas, even considering training woman. And then if you wanna talk seriously like if you have rations of becoming professional, it's as you head find the trainer that is really selfless because it's not a lot of money. So it's not like they're gonna make living out of a woman box that it's just right now, it's not happening. So you had to find the trainer that does it because they love and because they like you and. Once you pass that it was something that obviously people ask me, but the real key to any woman professional boxer his how do you do two jobs because nearly all women professional boxers also have a job, generally. It's not Astra physics but make no mistakes. Very few women can sustain themselves we've boxing, and if they do sustain themselves with boxing, also treating other people such and the two jobs is not the problem. The problem is the third job that must have been have to do of finding themselves fights prepare to tease and traveling for spurring and finding in just the enormous amount to restore study takes to get contracts and just be sort of be taken seriously that is third job. And that's the hardest. One of them. Is it this is it quite simple just to say. The solution would be if there were more money in the sport. I don't think it more women to get paid better. Sure. Yes. So if there was if there was a bigger purse for for instance, if there was more money on offer for the fighters, then the trainers would get more money than you, probably get better train as is it simple as that. Or is it more? Is it more nuanced? No. I think it's more new us. I think you know, it kinda like goes back to women's Ford all together as a in perception that that's not something that people wanna see the level of the forms. And I think that perception is in my experience is largely wronged people. You know, there's not a lot of fights on TV, but the women now there are many more fight on TV than before. And those fights are watched with high ratings. But also every time you go to show, you know, as mall club show in queens, or whatever. And there's a women fight. You all the time. The women fight was the most interesting about the. Night because cuddly may be because it's so hard to get to the point where your family have a fight. They are now going to phone in. You're just like your heart because it's a hard way up. So so that might be part of the reason, but the women facts always inter- -taining, they're always like. Going gung-ho and just really working hard at that. So now, you know, so female fighters in MMA, they seem to have become a lot more popular. What is it about? Do you think MMA that makes the female fighters so much more popular in MMA new? No. It's just the exposure. I mean Dana has started. Also, like, no, women women, Naga fiery my in the UC just just not going to do that. And then he changed his mind women on cards, the company fights watched people like them. He put more women on Kurds made a business decision that just worked. I think it would work for boxing, the boxing business were starting to see that. Right. You know, obviously Clarissa as televised more Matanovi every every fight. There are many other fighters that get some less, but some exposure all the recruits from the the first Olympic canes with women. It's changing anything is changing for few not for sort of like the bulk of women boxers awfully it's just a matter of time. So it's just a matter of exposure how long cause some some of the some of the women have been waiting awhile. Now, if you think about a leashes age, which I won't mention because she will punch my lights out, but she she had to wait a while for for things to come away. I mean, how long do you think and every time she needs to get a fight? It's you know, it's hard to get a fight. And she waits longtime in between fights she never fought in Jamaica, which is our hometown. And I know that that was a really big desire of hers. So I don't know how long and I think you know, there's all the restore is a bubble. There were bubbles of women boxing in the past Christie Marteen later, the Sierras was one of my favorite people in the whole white word, and then the bubble burst and women were boxing on TV for another like, I don't know fifteen years. So hopefully, this is not a bubble. But it's hard to say a long. Wow, frederica. Thank you so much for being a guest away. I have one more coin one more. All right one more time. Let's do it. I we go. You're an astrophysicist what planet would you love to fight on and what planet which you hate to fight on. Ooh, okay. I really don't wanna fight on Venus 'cause it's hot up there. Doesn't it fighting in you know, in sauna good at all? How about Sachin we can have between ring particles all the particles that make ring and just you know, have one fight on each one of them a different kind of ring right on. That's right. Now about that for a little bit of logic from monitoring to another Frederico ban. Coach thank you so much for being August on playing with. Thank you so much the astrophysicist who is also a professional boxer. Yeah. That's that's just quite a combination. We are going to take a break next up carry Williams. The boxer the train at the Olympic level trainer. Entrepreneur and philanthropist. Yeah. That's going to be another great interview. And of course, forget we ever leash. Ashley coming up as well. Stick around with you. Welcome back to playing with science. Speaking to friendly cub being co astrophysicist and professional books. Now, it's time to take a slightly different turn into the world of women's boxing. This is Kerry Williams this time, former Olympic Starbucks Olympic level, boxing coach folks in cloud, bona cover model speaker entrepreneur for that Japan post and behind boxing ball, bows. And the brand never to pretty and never to pretty movement hashtag never to pretty movement so lady with no much time in a hands. Yeah. Do you sleep Harry? My goodness. What are you just take a cat nap between the hours of six and six thirty. Right. Power naps. So I have to ask you what personally attracted you to the world of books. Ing. Well, kind of that word story when I got out of college actually have environmental science degree. So yeah. But I grow up. I was always entrepreneur, you know, saying mistletoe daughter door, whatever, and I didn't wanna work for the government. And I did it for the year out of college. And this isn't for me. I can't sit in a cubicle. I wanna own my own business. And I wasn't sure what that was going to be and I had a friend in high school, and he was professional boxer. And he would always tell me, oh, you know, I go to the boxing gym, but there's no treadmills weights, and then people will try to come into the boxing gym to work out or just pushed away because you either came in there to be a fighter or you to train so thought, well, there's no gyms out there where the average person walk off the street and just do boxing workout. But really learn boxing like legitimately learning. So I said I'm gonna open a gym. Yeah. And back then the internet really wasn't like it is now this was twenty years ago. And so I went and bought a book called business plan for dummies, and I wrote a business plan, and I went to a Bank, and I got a small loan. I gotta SPA loan. That's a long story but opened my first box chip in nineteen ninety eight. And so I had never boxed before that. I actually was not even into fitness. I was terrible. If you know I hated piggy. And was not an athlete. I was up academic girl. The straight a girl the scholar not release Galler. But we I was smart. And so that's how it all started. I. Let me just take a second. I gotta I gotta rewind this tape just back to a little bit and go right back to the statement. I sold mistletoe door to door. Okay. Because by the way, I tried that. And people just said get outta here. You're. They'll be a reason for that. Chuck. What on it baby? That's it could be. But no seriously. I read a couple reviews about you. And here's what they pretty much all said. This woman is awesome. She doesn't teach you how to get into shape. She just teaches you to box and getting into shape is the result. Is that is that just your philosophy is that? Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Obviously, I'm passionate about this. Or it's my love, and I respect the sport entirely. So into somebody comes to me and say, oh, I just wanna lose weight or I just wanna get in shape. And I heard boxing's a great way to do it. You're gonna learn how to fight whether you step into the ring or you don't it doesn't matter. You're gonna learn the same way train off my fighters. So that is my philosophy of training while that's really cool. That's really cool. I must ask you sort of poacher gun gamekeeper seeing how different is it from being the fighter to being the trainer. Well. You know, being a fighter is I was a trainer before I was a fighter. So again, it's pretty backwards. So I the gym busy I needed to help on the floor so became a coach. And then after that, I thought was kind of hypocritical to be a coach and never stepped in the boxing ring, and you know, I can't be hidden print. So then I started to compete now stepping into the ring was little easier for me as far as the nerves because being outside of the ring and having a fighter in the rain. You get very nervous for that athlete. And so a lot of that was taken away from me. So I stepped in the ring I wasn't as nervous and being in the ring is when you do it over and over again, it's like being in like a slow motion movie. Like, you're in a movie everything is slow down. Joe countries coming at you. They look they appear to becoming slowly. So that you can react the naked eye outside. The ring is looking any going. Wow, it's really fast. But you're seeing it like. And that was quite an experience. It's very strategic obviously to rain chest in the ring coaching outside of the ring is super rewarding. I find coaching more rewarding than than competing because competing is for me coaching is for somebody else. And being able to do something for somebody in change. Somebody's wife in a really positive way that I mean, you can't put money on. By the way, I see punches coming in slow motion, but they land anyway, and ends up. It ends up being shot where the guy's cheek collapses under the fist, and then the blood spurts get. Yeah. You know that shot. Yeah. Shot. Okay. Let's go. Let's go back to the slow motion Peckham power movie boxing, all, you know, eyeball to train your mind cause icon imagined for one second. These things are slow, right? It's it's just not I can't get my head. But you must be training your mind to facilitate how you kind of distort the time to slow these down. You know, what I think it comes from controlling your adrenalin? And so you doing something repetitively over and over again. And then you're in that situation that fighting situation in your face, you, I you know, when you first training, you're starring in fighting your yellow drilling by someone's trying to beat crap at you on doing it over and over again, you start to learn how to control and so now you're not just very anxious in nervous, it's more of a relaxed thing. And so for some reason it slows everything down like inertia. Maybe. So it's very interesting. That's that's pretty wasn't isn't it? That's pretty wild. And so what was the hardest thing? What what for you is the hardest aspect of boxing. You said you started to coach first and then went into the ring yourself. But what was what is for? You the hardest aspect as a fighter as a coach. He's rule hobos. Z as a fighter the hardest thing for me with those two things one is I don't like to get hit the other thing that the. The training is so hard for competition. I don't like running and you have to do a lot of running conditioning. I don't mind sprints. But I don't like the the conditioning of the longer runs. So yeah, I don't I didn't really like that part of it. I love the part of being in the ring and being strategic. You know, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna faint. I'm gonna make them do this. And then I'm gonna counter with this. That was really enjoyable to me. Coaching wise. There's not a lot that. I don't like about it because I'm in control of it. So if it's repetitive in its competition. Then it always rewarding to see them. Do something gazillion times than they finally get it. But I mean as far as coaching can't really say that there's anything I don't like about it. Will you talk about stamina and training, and at that, endurance, a any other things that you can do aside from running like, for instance. I have terrible knees. I can't run at all. What if I've not speaking as a fighter just speaking as a layperson of regular person? What if I wanted to build up stamina what else could I do other than running at which puts that pounding all your knees? I would say probably getting in the pool and doing sprint work in the pool. You know, other than that. That's rent work has to happen. I've never honestly tried it with somebody who has had such issues to where they couldn't do the sprint work. But I would I would rather that it, you know, 'cause they're fighters say, they're probably like, I don't know. Get in the ring there. Just like, listen, my knees are shot too. So I'm just saying, oh, Chuck you'll find any excuse. Really say like a fighter with excuses, not really fighter, you know. So and I have a similar saying I have a similar saying and that saying is I'm not really a fighter. Funny how that works out. Hey, so listen, you're you to all this other stuff. I mean, an before we started the show here. I was talking to you about something that I saw in line about you. And it's called the weight loss show, which I thought was just incredible now full disclosure. I didn't get a chance to look into it the way I wanted to. And so I thought you had had a baby because you. You had all these great like shots of you beforehand, and you were like all cut up and look great, and like super fit, and then all of a sudden, you were like, overweight and out of shape, and that you were and they were all of a sudden like fifth again. So what was that weight loss? So what was that all about L is called big too fat to fit and the premise of the show on lifetime. And I think it's on Amazon or Netflix now, but the premise is that you gain this much weight as you get as a trainer as a trainer in which we did you can't or months, and then lose all of that weight in for months. Now, the reason to do that was that you were to have a friend or a family member who needed to lose a lot of weight. And so the idea was that you kind of step into their shoes. So that you can understand what it's like to work out and lose weight and the challenges that you face as an overweight person. So that's why did the show. I did a lot of coercing for them to get me on the show because I really did not want to get wait. But it's funny when I did gain away people, but I was pregnant, but they wouldn't say anything because they were like, but then after I lost. They're like, oh my God. I thought you were pregnant old time. So. I'm one of those idiots. Yes. There you go. That's exactly what I did. So let me ask you. So now, you're a little bit more empathetic to people who have gained weight, and you've had the experience like documented, psychologically. Okay. Because I think a lot of weight loss is psychological, so psychologically, what's the best. Vice you can give to somebody who's struggling right now. They're like I wanna look better. I wanna feel better. And I can't seem to do it. It is all mental strike, no matter who it is how much weight you need to lose labels. Are it is all in your head? So in to you, get your mind, right? You will never ever get your body. Right. Dammit body. Your mind Brown. No, it's really just mental. A really really is. And you have to set out in your head. It's like, you know, when they say when you hit rock bottom, and all of a sudden your life, boom, I'm gonna do it. And nothing's gonna deter me you have to get to that point. And you have to be strong, and you have to have will power, obviously. But all those things it's just in your head, and you have to just do it. And I know it's like well. Oh will isn't there easier way? Isn't there? A trick is in there. Some magic very distinct put on me in. It's gonna help me figure it out. There's really not it is if you really want it, then you do it. So I mean, that's what I got out of the whole thing. You can what can you do? I my friend who was really who is a really close friend of mine. She had a lot of way to lose. We worked on her losing away. And she lost a lot of away. But there were I mean, the show's all about drama, right? I mean, there was some drama throughout that process. Because there were so many times where she was just well, I really wanted to order, you know? Oh, well, and then she would have an excuse us. Why she couldn't get to the gym? So it's really you have to be dedicated to what you want. It's your life. Right. If that's your goal, then you have to you have to make those struggles vices to get there. How many times on this show that same thing just keeps coming up from all these athletes everybody we talked to Gary was a professional footballer. You know, it just seems like this is just the theme that just runs through every single thing that has to do with the with with sports and fitness. Get doesn't change now. Dawn you. Well, there's plenty of room up there in mind. I must style. Skew. Why? Wii the box is the boxing regime exercise program. So attractive to women. Well, I truly believe that it's because it impacting I mean, it is a lot of very fearful to to come to like when I opened my first boxing gym twenty years ago. It was open to everybody. But it was still mostly men that were coming in. And it was really a challenge to get those women to take that step in very scared of it. Oh, people are just hitting each other. You know, there's this idea that you know, when even to watch boxing, people go there, just hitting each other. It's brutal. They don't see the the beauty behind the sport. You know, they don't see the science behind this or they don't see all of that. They just see two people in their hitting each other. So it was challenging at first to get women in. And now, you know, as we started coming into this or then we get more media coverage in and then women go. Oh, wait, she can do it. You know, they look at somebody who might be petites or or whatever very feminine they go. Wow. She's in there, and she's a bad ass in. I wanna be that. And so it really helps to bring more women into the sport. And then once they taste it forget about it. You know? That's it. You know, they're bee's. Like, it's it's a superpower makes you feel really strong as a person in general, it makes you feel -ccomplish. And that's why I truly believe in teaching the sport and not just as a workout because for sure Bill -ccomplish after you do a great workout. But how much more complex do you feel when you actually learn how to throw proper punch you learn how to slip shot you learn a combination that's realistic to the game. So it is super rewarding. Before we go, and we will be going shoulder. I'm sorry to say you'll philanthropy work. How does that come about? And does that still have its roots in boxing? Well, it's kind of does it used to have a nonprofit north where we work with a lot of youngsters in the boxing road. Of course, a lot of kids who couldn't afford training or travel expenses for tournaments that sort of thing. Now, I have a the two pretty Brown. We have a nonprofit also so it's a female empowerment grants who is really kind of bringing those girls into themselves like dago, I'm girl, but I can do anything. I want to do I'm not I'm not in this gender box. So to speak. So I I work with that. It's it's a movement more so than it is anything else in. It's really just kind of a message to send to the girls. You know as far as more flood. I mean, I've done a lot of it up. -solutely I didn't knocking out obesity tour and toured the country and work with middle school students for a whole month teaching him boxing. So I have done a lot of that right now. It's more. So just kind of being that. I that's on social media that encouraging the young girls in the women to do whatever they wanna do regardless of what gender they are. That is cool. Yeah. And I think the more people that take that baton and run with it the better, and it's a fabulous message. And I think the people we've been speaking on this show exactly the kind of people that they can look up to and the work that your doing will will maybe increase those numbers, and you know, the world of boxing will find people come out of your classes or classes like that an actually pick up the gloves and step into the ring for real. Yes. Absolutely. It's beautiful sport. That's the sweet science. There you go. So we're gonna take a nother break. Thank you to the wonderful, Kerry Williams. An insight into another stream the world of boxing now. Coming up next a Welsh champion and a golden gloves hall of Famer, none other the militia actually, I know you're not going away. I see show. Joining us. Now is the leash Ashley WBC female world super bantamweight champion. And this this blows me away the youngest of chess grandmaster, MAURICE, Ashley and former world kickboxing champion, Devon, Ashley. Your Monte title holder when it comes to boxing. So we'll take focus and bring it onto you world champion, Phil. What drew you they'll world's happier? Was a world champion baby. You gotta love it. Come on feels good. When like, okay, I have a friend. His name is Judah Friedlander. He is a comedian. And he wears a hat that says world champion on it and his whole thing people and people used to say when he was on stage. Like, what are you the world champion he'd be like everything? You I'm I'm one or two things one or things right on rings more than me. You came to the sport of professional boxing relatively late. What dress you into the ring? What was it for you? It wasn't that. I was drawn into the ring. It was that. I I kinda needed something to do. I was a professional dancer that was Michael when my brothers were doing martial-arts, I was dancing. So when I got injured, and I couldn't desert anymore. My brother's finally was able to get me into the sport of a karate. So. I really had no interest in boxing. I just kind of fell into the sport. So now, it's funny because you say dancing, and then boxing, but the to do have some connective tissue show is indefinite correlation because it's funny when people see me, boxing, they say like I'd move like a dancer because there's a lot of moving that ends up being my style. I'm more of a boxer than puncher. Because of that, you know, that's always argument between the two types of pugilist is the brawler and the boxer and the boxer is the is the person who's light on their feet. They're up on their toes. They're using the ring they're using the perimeters of the ring they're creating positioning with their with their body and making their opponent kind of position themselves put themselves out of position, and then the brawlers as the brawlers. Before it you. And I love fighting brawlers because they come at you. Right. And that's the whole reason they will do all the work for you. And you just a just have to make sure you can hit them before they get to you. Now, you touched on strategies, and you're thinking about the science using an opponent's momentum and the velocity toward you as what they think is an asset and you'll turn it around to make the disadvantage in an asset for you. So I'm thinking that rather is a grand chessmaster that is all strategy. Your other brother the kick box, which one taught you the most. Well, it's funny because Devon and his last name is actually Cormac story we reported. Join us for that. Turn it back on me by don't correct. The he's the one that actually got me into the sports. He got he tell you also that he taught MAURICE Ota play chess. Oh, the fame his that. He got us bowed into our perspective sports. So I'm going to say that Devon is actually the one that has been most influence on me. But I also learned chess. So that in a make strategy that is a integral part of my maximum too. So how much of that chess strategy? Did you bring to your book seeing in the middle of the find? I think for me, it's a majority of my sites always thinking move ahead. Follow to get them in a certain position. So that I can, you know, punch them or or if they adjust I should be to step some, you know, ahead of that. And will means like I got really placed in position, you might think you got there on your own. But it's really. I. That is a chess match to say, the least socially martial arts thing. The the biggest deal of deception to allow you to go for something you think is there. And then the way it's not. Exactly, exactly. This is why this natives will champion definitely. So in your in your training, I'm interested because this these things do interest me was your training also hard now skipping rope. Or did you employ new techniques? New technology. Are you one of those people that embraces the new? I hate weight training. Eight. Did it a little bit? But the thing is that even though I don't look like I'm getting older. My body was telling me that I was I had the problems from dance. I started getting in boxing, which were toward is ahead torn minutes. Fist in. Now. I have it in both knees so much reigning actually head to change because of that. There was no more running. So I had a fine different way to get my stamina going. So what did you? Well, things like burpee. We. I hate burps. You hate wakes raining. I don't know how you do burp. He's I hate burpee cut. The fact that a matter is it actually were was the best thing for me. And I hate saying that, but it isn't entire body workout, and it had helped me, especially my last light. My last night was the March at age fifty. And the one thing that I could say is that I had the conditioning to go more than the ten rounds. Wanna let's talk about conditioning. Yeah. Because that seems to be the kryptonite for most boxers that should win. But don't win. They lose their legs. How do you know that you're properly conditioned for a fight? And what do you have to do to get to that place? I think it's also to fold the fact of the matter is a lot of them are trying to lose weight before the fight instead of already being in our on Wade weeks before the fight. So if you are off perpetually going up and down in weight when it's time for you to fight and you'll have to worry more about losing weight than focusing on the fight than that's a major problem so maintaining I maintain my condition, even when I'm not fighting. So most of the time I'm only three or four pounds over the way that I find it. So after that is just it's working on condition the entire time. So that you background is a token there. That's that. I see the conditioning physically of doing routines doing everything that you need to do to keep yourself in that shape. Then facilitates doing the same as books. But you can have the best condition in the world. But if you don't really feel like that day, it ain't happening. So how do you condition your mind to be able to take your body to the places it needs to go? Wow. That's a great question. The funny thing is that my mind is always there. Yes. You cannot. You're not always in the fights. And that's the hardest part of it. But I'll say that as a dancer, you know, the show must go on. So you still have to work past that? And I always consider my Feith not as vice but performances. Interesting. A very interesting. Because because I'm the principal dancer. Everyone is watching over after all all is are always on you. And let me take this opportunity to say to all the dancers who are out there listening or not that dancers are some of the greatest athletes that you will ever encounter period. I agree. So no because you hear that everywhere. This profit dancers, the ones the ones that can't even box. We gotta give it to them to the shuttle. Yes, they can. Don't wanna find out if they just know them. Oh, what what would you say? You'll biggest challenge has been over the course of your professional career. Has been hard to maintain that same level of? I'll say interest in the sport. Because. Yes, a lot of times I do not feel like training, and the older that I get is harder to maintain that that same desire, especially because I know that I don't have the train as much to get the same out of it. Cool. Doing it for my training. Now, it's like I have to have a purpose when I was younger. I didn't is just like train as much as one to fight comes along. But now is warped focuses in is on winner. You getting me of fight when am I fighting neck? So that has been hard to maintain that same sort of a desire to fights while that's funny. The trajectory of your training has been the exact same path as the trajectory of my partying. So window. Do have you said a date when you've said, that's me out. Or are you just going to do your thing? Let let it go. Go think I think this. A them. A me ended up in China kinda is pushing me on that. Because I wouldn't have taken this job. If I still had so many buys the thing about it that I wanted me to stay in the game. I need at least three fights in the year. The last three years I've just been fighting once a year, and that's not enough to sustain me on Stein. The others that it's like, okay, I'm slowly weaning myself out of this Ford in being on the other side, which I have been trainer for the last fifteen years. But now, it's a kind of just forcing me hold of where you looking for your boxes don's going. Oh in a gym. Now, they come to me, they come to the gym make sense. We'll let me ask you this. You're a champion a world champion five times. Anybody who wants to be a champion? What is it that you have to do to be a champion? What is the championship stuff? What is it? I don't really think it psychology is a lot of people want to do del the, oh, but you know, as a lot of work, but you can put someone in the ring, and they're like, oh after the first, you know hater, so I'll come back. And then, you know, a lot of people think that just winning makes you that winner doesn't it's win lose. That's where you know, how much that person wanted are how much how strong of a fighter they would be if they can get back up and go back in. So I don't play so much emphasis on winning a put more on you being able to turn around and come back after you've lost while or read great just remembered something and correct me if this quote is wrong, but you are asked. To give advice to any up and coming female boxer. Your advice was don't get hit. Is that? Correct. Well, I mean, that's a big part of it. I'm just now the second part of this question is have you managed to take your own advice? Looking at you. I'd say you did pretty well. I definitely have managed to keep that a advice. And the thing is still l say this. I've never been not down in all the years that I've been biting never been not done of a bit not out. I've had losses and I'm happy with that. Because it makes me the person that I am. Because I can come back around. That's when I came back to get aids, though, the losses detains. Winds will be so you and I have something in common. I've never been knocked down my fights either. Because you can't knock down somebody who is running away from you knew you're going to do that just knew you. At least you can be out of catch him may for that matter leash. We have got to the end of the interview. And we are thrilled that we had the chance to spend some time with us. Thank you so much. Ashley, oh, thank you. Thank you very much. So there you have it all boxing special with three very very interesting women boxes different sort of approaches the philanthropist the entrepreneur in Cary Williams. The astrophysicist who clears her mind by boxing that really is something. And of course, the one the only undisputed champion of the world Alicia. Ashley, it's been a fabulous fabulous show. A hope you've enjoyed as much as Chuck, and I did and we look forward to your company very very soon. So that's it from the signs until.

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#476  Alistair Overeem, Garry Tonon, Jack Hermansson

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

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#476 Alistair Overeem, Garry Tonon, Jack Hermansson

"You're listening to Knox media law. Gas network. It is Monday, April eighth two thousand nineteen and this is the enemy our right here on enemy fighting dot com. Thank you guys so much for joining me, I greatly. Appreciate it. My name is Lou Thomas. I am the host of this program. Let's see what we have in store for you guys today. A trio of guests. Let's see we'll start with Jack Hermansen. He just beat David branch. And I was gonna turn right around and face Dockery. Soza UFC four Lauderdale. We'll catch up with him at one o'clock sitting right here in studio fresh off of his victory at one new era. Gary Tonen will join us. And then the end about two o'clock, we'll be joined by Alastair over him who previews he's in the main event against lexie Olympic. You've see Saint Petersburg was supposed by Volkov. And then it will. All right. So those will be our guest. Plus, you'll be my guest not one but two different ways. We'll take your tweets during around of tweets using the hashtag the hour. Keep sending them we always appreciate it. When you do then. The end of the show will do the sound off where you can call in eight four four eight six six two four six eight international callers may call the number or you may Email voicemail clip of the hour at vox media dot com. All right. Hope everyone had a great weekend. I mostly did the baby will be here any day now. So I'm kind of just getting all my baby stuff in a row. I know we gotta get situated city aided do around of tweets still around the tweets. Era, go. All right. Look, do you think be KFC has something here or will the novelty where off if you were ESPN, plus design you have five pass would you consider signing deal to take the org off of paper view. I don't know that they're much of a threat on paper view, if I can be candid with you. I don't think that's all that accurate. But are they some kind of a threat? I don't know to me they're not a threat, but they would be really helpful to a burgeoning streaming service to fill in the gaps of what they don't have. I think the issue still is do folks if we could turn my headphones little bit. It'd be great to is folks. Do they trust it? Remember, it's only legal in a handful of states if that, and I'll be honest men, did you see the faces of night and low ball after the contest do their head tons of cuts. Everyone's like knuckles make it safer maybe in terms of head trauma. Although that remains to be seen. But there might be other costs associated with namely. Not limited to facial lacerations. And that's not the end of the world. But it is a hard thing for people to accept if they've already got some trepidation about it. So we'll see the novelty wears off it will depend on if they can get legalized, and if they can make any names next. If max wins and vacates will we see Aldo fighting for the title. And what would it mean for his legacy to hold the belt for third time? It would still I still think he's the best way to all time just giving with your -ccomplish there. We'll see if he fights UFC two thirty seven, but okay, assuming he ends up fighting for third time. Yeah. It would only solidify his his reign. It would only solidify his place as a all-time. Great featherweight next. And that's not a great answer. How will Artem in nights? Record. Be counted in became a be will count on the professional boxing record or became its own sport with his own records, Artem one. Oh. Well, you can thirty box in that sports. I don't think it's a professional boxing record. I think it's separate. It's got to be its own thing. I don't know that for a fact a look into. But like, Eddie Bravo. But I'm pretty certain that does not count on your boxing record next. While interim belt suck it opens up some midway possibilities. What combo of Whitaker gassed them out? Yeah. And some he gets past Hermansen jock. Ray gets you the most excited as a matchup. Gotta be. We'll look any of them are pretty great. If you can be be honest about it. But for me, personally, Whitaker versus oughta Sonya is the one it's got the regional bragging rights, which are kind of awesome. Good to see that part of the world produced some serious talent as they have. I mean, they already have. But you know, even further escalation would be great. You guys know a big believer. Not assign yet everybody is a big believer in Whitaker at this point and got two different styles to different experiences. Two different ways of winning gasoline to like, I don't wanna I don't wanna not count them in. But you are seeing gas jock array fight, I will say outta Sonya. And Jacques Ray makes for an interesting test case because of the ground issues involved out of sinus stove is very much defensive grappling game. And we need to see his takedown offense. At this point. But we know how it occurred in gasoline of handled it next. Hello, luke. Would you ever consider attending wrestlemainia? If it came to your city. I'd rather get Bola legitimately. You should see all of the accounts. And muted words, I haven't Twitter. So I don't have to have that infestation raining upon me and polluting my life. So no, it's not I watched wrestlemainia last year. I was just a bit as a gag on my YouTube channel on couldn't believe how dumb it was. I mean, I know everybody loves it. It's fine. If you like it keep on liking it not for me next. Leukine Danny please discuss the topic of over saturation. What is too little too much? And how much of it is best for the sport. Also, maybe in what ways the you have C might change if endeavor goes public. I love all the well, these are flecked enormous questions that don't have time to answer for the second part. But the first part all answer the over saturation question is a function of to what extent is there commercial appetite mixed with what are your long-term global ambitions mixed with how much star power. Do you have to power the amount of content that you have? And so if there's a lot of demand for content, you still don't want to give into all of it. You wanna leave a little bit out there? So you can have it sustained over time. It's a function of how much star power you have. And it's also function of what kind of global infrastructure, you have it's a complicated answer, there's never one set number. Although I think it's probably closer to shows in the thirty range than the forty range next. Thoughts around Madrid should go after the summer as art Cardi Senate for Danny do you think Greece been leaving Greece been sucks ass and realme dribble with five hundred and fifty million euro, they have they're going to get there. They're definitely going to get as are they might pocked. But if they get in, but I want everyone who watches this show in Europe to know something who's a soccer fan if Real Madrid get Imbaba. I am going to be even more insufferable about that team than I already am. I want everyone to know. And I want to be very clear about that. All right. All right. Let's do this. Now, I believe we have him on Skype. This guy had a great win a great win over David branch super-quick, and then speaking of super-quick turns right around and it's going fight jock array at USC Fort Lauderdale. Let's talk to the man now, it's Jack the joker Hermansen areas hijack. Good now, where where do you talk to us today from where are you? Those little Norway. Tell me about Oslo Norway. I know nothing about it. What's it like? Verbiage city about the. Five hundred thousand. Let's here, and yeah, you know, I think everything that we got on a small surface. That's the all's boys. What's the weather like there right now? Not too bad. Actually, you know, maybe ten tend to be celsius. It's it's pretty cold pretty cold. Yeah. You know here in the awaits is really, Nicole. But the hair in southern wait somebody my solid. We don't complain. I'm assuming I've just the first time I've ever talked to you. So I really appreciate you coming on the show. I'm assuming you've got the joker nickname because you have a nice big smile. Yeah. It's this about it. That's why who gave it to you. It was a couple of friends at school. This topic. Gold Minhaj ochre goes. Bye bye bye mind. It looks like the joker from the Batman. And then at the way, some people shouted the joker. So just okay. Let's go with the joke that have you ever wanted to like come out to the way ends with like a joker face paint or anything like that. Now that's too much for me. All right. Did you by the way? Did you see the new trailer for the movie with Joaquin Phoenix playing the joker? No, I haven't. Pretty good. You gotta check it out. They shouldn't they should have cast you, I guess we'll have to settle for walk in Phoenix. Yeah. No. All right. First of all understand something. So you're half Swedish half. Norwegian is that the idea. Within us that I'm on Swedish, I'm actually half German. But the I'm born and raised this. We lived in Sweden flora twenty years nineteen years, then I moved to Norway, and I've been here for about ten years now. So the thing is that you know, I wanna represent Sweden because his my birth country and the grew up there, but I also wanna represent because this is rather developed my maker. How'd you end up in Norway? When I will finish school. It was really hard to to get a job. So there were a lot of Swedish immigrants to Norway. So I'll just want them go over here to end the looking for a job. What is the dominant? What is how similar are Swedish Norwegian has languages. At British Norwegian on the stand. Swedish very well. But the Swedish in people that is the region that will. Spanish portuguese. Yeah. Something like that. Okay. All right. So let's talk about your last win fighting David branch. Now that was a hell of a guillotine. We'll talk about how you didn't just a second. What was the game plan for him? I wanted to go in there in a high push forward and that make a lot of things happening. You know, I have good commissioning sano that if I could push to the high base, and the may make things happen the to Maya voltage, and should I get another finish? I'll take that. But the I know that the have a high pace is gonna go to my bumping than it around. So that was basically made by Soham up Jim sale's gonna take now how okay the guillotine you little you were going for the back. And then you switched your grips and you sit for a same side arm in guillotine. Was that instinct call or is that something you hit in practice? A lot. Now, especially lately, I've been hitting a looks like all the time with this. So that's one things now that I do and I'm very confident in it. Then I knew that the if I got my hands together, I'll get it. So when a soda I've been tested can you talk to me about the finish. I've I've got a little bit of training and background. But that that particular I've never really done a whole lot with when you have the arm on the same side are useless with a normal guillotine if I'm choking with my left. I wanna be on my left hip is at the same thing. Do you want to have the same hip angled or how is the finish work? No in this one. I prefer to be a bit more flat than I should do with the allegation and instead cracked down like. I'm pulling towards the side. So I wanna pull him towards my father where he showed since out with his arm and my arm on dollars sides, some type of blood show go outside so as heads. So I'm not pulling towards me and the LA of other. So it's almost like a reverse headed arm. Triangle? Yep. That's about something like that. Yeah. So the trickery comes because they think you're taking the back. And then you get how did you like when you went for it, any doubt in your mind that he was going to tap? I was humming. All right. Very good. Did you do with bonus money to the? Just put into the side. I'm gonna I'm gonna try to save a little bit to get the. Some somewhere. Place to live, you know, as a for house. That's my plan. So now, I'm just renting a small apartment. The low wanna get the big house a little bit outside of that said, that's my dream. That's what on saving for Oslo expensive. Oh, it's the most expensive in the world. You know, it's so. Crazy. Geez. All right. I gotta go to Oslo. I've heard good things. But I don't I didn't know is that expensive. You better bring. How much how much does a meal? Mcdonald's cost. Let's see. I don't eat too much. But. I guess it's. I would guess about full-sized meal would be about fifteen fifteen dollars are. I'm not sure. But like like sheep thing you can get. Like three times the actual price. Okay. Fair enough arts. Let's transition. Now, they offered you this fight against jock array how did it come down because you just beat branch? But I guess you are healthy. Right. You dispatch with him in short order. You were ready to rock. Yeah. You know, I didn't have state when I got the unity. Now's just like this do this. You know, I will to fight this jacker for a long time. You know, when I want to beat the best in the division. So, you know, you gotta take like this send my buddies fine. So now is just a ritual Goosen that and get a dump. Now, you're a guy who likes to operate on the ground. You're going not to say you can't do other things, but your record does speak to that. You're gonna begins the guy who's got some of the best ground game in the middleweight division. So let's just ask plainly. Do you intend to challenge him in that particular department? I'm sure. I'm not afraid to go. Yeah. You know, I'll take him down and. He's he hasn't really good. But I have a really good the medicine for that in invest the best ground bombing the world. And you know, it doesn't matter who you are. If you're tasting of these fists yourself, not that good only let me ask you do you feel like ground and pound not merely the middle division. But in enemy, generally, there are some people like you Jeremy Stevens, I think has really good ground pound to some people have really good ground upon. But I kind of feel like it's a bit of a lost. Art. Do you agree? Yeah. It is. And that it's you know, the thing is that the old old school upon doesn't work today. Invest why it's has been pushed aside a little bit in no before back in the days before everybody was trying to get people usually using their jitsu, and they're closed guard and back then people posted up, you know, and the with the. Yeah. Posted up after heavy punches. But if you do that today people just back feats feet in moment. So what you need to be good at is to control the person about and the keep him down and keep it from not standing up at the same time as you got to create some distance embalmed embeds much shorter. So it's it's a really hard thing and you need to drill. It needs to be several steps. Info Ponant wilty he will do to Mabel to kept rice. And and find bills punches who else is good at ground abound. I think cubby is number two. And after me, the he's extremely goats at the controlling, but his so tied. So he doesn't get a lot of leverage empower, but he makes up for it in in volume and pressure, you know, related like, whereas only opponents about the he's also read amigo that it's and I think so. Drake's from him as well. When I when I got this. When you started getting really good at may. Did you set out to be really good at ground and pound or one of those things? Whereas one day, your coaches in your training partners were like, yo your ground pounds. Really good. Yeah. You know? My one of my coaches back here back in the days was Joachim Hansen and for being like champion. Yeah. And he was the and we have a lot of ground with him. So that's where it started. And the then I had some really really good grappler at the gym. And I, you know, had a hard time. I'm hanging with them ended. That department, but when I started to let punches so to be more successful, and I just growing fund away. Then started to put my don't seem to it than the and the research into it than there might my dream send them just that emissions into being a good. Do you find shock array as talented as he is do you think his age is a factor in whether or not, you know, he will compete at the highest level. Is still I can't amazing the goods abbot, of course, is probably passes physical prime. That's why I think I expected he's going to be as good as ever in. Our this is gonna be his best shape ever much. Are let's talk about the top of your division. Right. So you've got a title on the line this weekend. Kelvin gasline ticket on Israel out of Sonya. Tell me Mr. joker who do you think is gonna win that one? You know, it's so easy to always underestimate Calvin guest Leumi so goes. But, but it's hard to see how he's gonna get in side of the extreme range about this that the on as he has such the rain showers, and the those long long arms on Caixa long legs. It's gonna be hard to forget them to to get in there. But I'm thinking that the is gonna get it on points or can't will be in this came out. No wrestling involved. You know, Kevin has wrestling. But the user to. Now as as I this record these days. So I think. Vici there. And then let's say, you're right. Let's say Israel oughta you wins. What about Assad versus Whitaker? Oh. You know, he's the he's the best. I I really believe that saw I think he will get. Let's say I'm I'm not saying I disagree. But let's play as we say here in America devil's advocate. Let's say I disagreed convinced me that Whitaker's better. Yeah. His work. He's way closing in this status and putting together come nations, I think he will be limited to quick on. I think it's gonna be hard frame to to keep him at this sense. I think it went to has. I think it went to. Good enough setups in techniques such variation. I think it will find it. And the he's such a teller jet fighters, welcome. Oh, and many many people I think they will get mesmerized them. They look at us on weird movement than so, but with has a mind of stealing is so hard to get into his head that he can see like the Romero five always keeps focused throughout the fights. I just believing that guy. I think he'll pretty compelling case. Now, what's interesting is your ranked tenth year now inside the top ten of middleweights in the world, Shaq arrays at three. So here's how it goes. Number one is the champs doesn't count as a contender. One is Romero who you're that's the spot you're taking and then for this fight, and then two is rock hold who's up away class three Jacques array fours, gasoline five is out of Sonya. So wait a second. Now, if you win this fight where do you think that puts you in this division? I think what's top division. You know? I hope it do, and you know. We will see about. Why of course, and the guest gonna fight than that we probably will fight which when he gets healthy. But that we will see if if I can get the five or if maybe maybe they would put together polical stand Ramiro for five, and then the way will fight me. And then when there will be fighting type of that will be possible. But no matter what not far away at all. Now, Jerry clubs. That's what so great for this. Let me ask you. I read about something. Do you watch a lot of we'll probably don't watch a lot. But I'm sure you've watched at some point your life some Norwegian television, right? Yeah. Okay. Is it true? I heard about this. Is it true that Norway y'all watch? Something called slow TV which is like just a camera over like a river as a boat moves forward for like four or five hours. I've never heard of never heard a slow TV. I haven't buddy of mine went to Norway and told me, it's a real thing. Yeah. Look into that. Because I heard all right. Maybe these are fake news. I don't know. I heard I had heard it was true. By the way, you ever been to Florida. You must have been a Florida before right? Yeah. I have been in the Orlando walls. I'm sorry to hear that Florida is the worst representation of America. All right. It's no, it's no Norway. Trust me. It's not even L Bainian. All right, man. You got you got a great story. You got a great nickname, a great smile. And I look forward to senior fight and you have four Lauderdale main event. Can't wait. Thank you so much. Thank you. Having me catch up on that slow TV too. Don't miss out on that. Jack Hermansen what a guy that was cool. 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I can't see anything. There is. Hey Loria gonna be here. We've talked is the first time we've talked in person. How are you doing Wellman pretty excited? I'm fat and happy right now. This is relatively fast food. I got back up to about one eighty five. Now, I'm about one seventy five so that fattening more. But after you're fighting one five. Yeah. Probably within the first three days. She's. Just coming down with his burgers eating over and over and over again. I mean, we had like a vacation thing and cat afterwards. So just like eating eating constantly so to this seminar, you came to my I can't train and more because I'm too old. And getting a kid. It was a lot of people train. Let me ask you this after training session. Just a regular one fight. Whatever. How do you feel feel feel good after interesting? So when I first started I would say for the first few years, I would just physically exhausted. But as I got better and better, I would say probably somewhere around year five years six training sessions got much more efficient. So I feel like I don't expend as much strengthen energy. So I usually feel pretty good after a sparring session. And because you're getting hit a little different sparring session almost every time I'm very physically exhausted. So it's probably a combination of being not very efficient because I'm not great at it yet. And the fact that you're I mean, even if you are good more than likely getting hit a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I I can't shoot him work because I just got injure all the time, and I always felt bad after training. But I remember you do one of your side tend to when you're seminars. It was the best seminar. I've ever talked thanking on leg locks which really used as my reference point for just about everything I know again, not much, but it was really phenomenal. So want to tell you that face. All right. So you had a big fight, man. Yeah. What about according to plan? Yeah. So this fight. I really didn't want to take any chances. I looked at this fight as a big threat because he had knocked people out before I hadn't had any opponents that were big knockout threatened, maybe TKO, but that didn't really see that before. So I was a little bit more comfortable, my previous fights this fight. I just kind of felt like between the fact that I was fighting somebody more dangerous, and the fact that was such a huge card their first card in Japan. There had to meet your Johnson and Eddie Alvarez on their yachts, and CLYDE all these amazing guys. I just really wanted to make sure that I made a statement as best as I possibly could you know, in front of all is that we're watching because I knew this probably one of the biggest cards that that one will probably ever put on. So. Yeah. I mean, it went about as good as it could. I didn't get hit much. I hit the other guy a lot a lot of damage walked away with my hand raise. And I thought it was a relatively exciting fight. And I I think is a professional mixed martial artist. Can't really hope for too much more than that. A couple couple of controversies the cell phone, the cell phone controversy, folks don't know about this. There's this sort of fake joke going around semi joke. There was something in your drawers description. It looked like cellphone. What was that? Yeah. So it definitely was a cell phone. You know, I had a girlfriend. She's now my ex at the time, and she got the Japan. And she was like, you know, Gary, I feel like you're really distant you're not giving me enough attention. So you know, I wanted to make sure that she was a first person I called right after the fight was over my back in the draw shrink. So I pull it out after the fight up super excited wanted to tell her that I was gonna win and I won. And then this guy answered the phone said his name was Dylan and. And you know, what I just had to end it right there. I'll just take that as a lesson. You know, my fellow fighters and martial artists that like, you know, if your girlfriend is messaging you leading up to a fight or something and she's being a distraction. She's not being supportive and constantly trying to take away from you drawing attention to her. She could just be talking to some dude named Dylan scenes when you're not there. Anyway. Don't take too much stock into it. So since you run it up. We'll get into it. You know? It's funny man, I interviewed Dylan Davis. He must have still been a Brown belt at Marcelo's at the time. I was doing an article before I had the show doing article for this site on how the guillotine had changed Chesham every years and years and years ago, we're gonna have the same guillotine kind of fade it, and then it got good again. Yeah. And I was asking for his opinion on who was good at it. He actually had some really good insight. And then this whole Conor McGregor thing happened. And you guys used to have beef back in the day to time ago. I saw you guys tournaments kind of those face a little bit. What would you say? The state of your rivalry with Dylan men. I mean, we're to completely suffered organizations right now, two different weight classes. Relatively close. So I mean, it will definitely see each other at certain occasions like he was Kasai Kasai. Although to be fair is sweeping in the back for most of Kasai because I'm so jet lagged right now from traveling, but. Yeah. I don't really have much of a problem. I mean, it's whatever the beef was over. No. I mean, it's just he's not really like you said like we live in proximity. We train in proximity to one another. But other than that. I mean, there's really no I don't really harbor any like negative emotions. I mean, I'm just focused on fighting. I mean at the end of the day I've had four fights and a little over a year. I'm gonna have five fights in a little over a year. I just signed another fight contract. That's gonna be happening relatively soon can't say when who etc by I I hate to tease, but that's just how it is. You know, until they until they make the first post, I can't say anything. But so I'm gonna have fights under a year and a half. I think and I'm just letting the fighting speak for itself. People could argue who's the best grappler anime or who's this who's that? But at the end of the day, I have I'm gonna have fights and a year and a half. At least they'll have something that people can talk about or what do you make about his whole stick? Then. I mean, I think coming because. You know, better when I interview low those many years ago never have seen this coming. I don't know if I would have said, I would see I would have seen it coming. I didn't know him. Well, enough to really say that for sure. But I will say like, you know, my only comment to it's not the way that I obviously decided to go in terms of like how I conduct myself. It's hard to argue that it's not successful for them. He's been doing very well. And you could argue maybe it's because he's with Connor and this that and the other thing, but at the end of day, huge social media following very controversial figure people talk about them. So I mean, the strategy is not working all that that. I mean, he's doing well firm self. I would argue very well from self compared to most other grapplers that are involved in mixed martial arts. However, I would say that from a standpoint of I was like the dudes best friends if I was Dylan's best friend. It would be hard. I'm not gonna name names. I don't know. Whoever is best friend is if I was his best friend. I would have trouble like like being asked questions about him. Like, you're asking me right now, the k- like what's the deal? You know, even Gordon says like crazy stuff, and he's my student. My teammate. You know, my best friend and sometimes with Gordon, I'm like, Gordon, Gordon. Video Gordon talks ship. He's injured now share show, but we had them in studio because he was promoting at the time. He was going to face. You know, look, I don't know what's going to happen in Dylan's future. But Gordon what he's talking shit is beating everybody like it's almost like Connor when he had that run through featherweight share talk your shit, man. You're the one on here just slugging Aldo to the mat and thirteen seconds. You know what I mean? So different for me. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, that's the same reason that I don't hear me like saying a lot of things yet in mixed martial arts because I've only been in the sport for such a short period of time. I've only had four fights. Yeah. I talk about that like a lot in short period of time. But I don't like, I don't know. I'm the kind of person that gets confidence from actually doing things. So if I'm gonna come out and tell you guys on the best in the world, I have to like feel like I've done something to show it or at least to prove to myself, and I don't necessarily think that I'm quite there yet to be starting to say things like that. You know, once I do feel that way. Sure. Maybe I'll come out and talk to you guys like that. But like you said it'll come from a point of a standpoint of reality, not necessarily from whatever I've built up in my in my head. Let me ask you. How did you? One of all places on the show. They just built a really good relationship with me early on. They had me out for a seminar, then they put on a grappling show, and I got to know a lot of their staff, I got to know Chatree one of their founders, and they just seem like really good people, really trustworthy. They seem like they were looking out for the athletes. I like the direction they're organization was going there. We're going to was growing it turned out that after I already signed they grew even more. So with all these new names that they're signing. And man, I just think that I think that more so than anything else. It was just the real world connection that I got from the people in new organization anybody else that had reached out to me. It was I don't know hearsay mostly just via social media or messaging and stuff. It wasn't anything personal. No real personal connection that I could attach myself to say, hey, you know, I get a general feeling about these people and how they're going to treat me and how they're going to treat my future. And I felt like one was gonna take me in a positive direction. I think so far. It was a great decision. I think it will continue to be like I said it's only gotten better than I would have even imagined. It would be when I first signed with them. For guy. It's like these guys the really good ones. Right. They the relative to NFL player they sort of toil in obscurity a little bit. And now you're with a big organization, but it's all the way across the other side of the world. Is there a part of you? That's like win. I'm I going to get some hometown fame. Yes. For the fame. But no, I understand the money comes with was part of the package deal your shirt. Well, I mean, it's it's like you said like if somebody mentions if somebody mentions my name for sure it's going to be less relevant in the US than it perhaps would be in Asia. And I live in the US. So yeah, I get what you're saying. For sure. I think that they're moving in a direction where they could perhaps have in the US. I don't really know. I can't say for sure I can't predict the future of based off of what I'm seeing the fact that they gotta deal with the fact that they signed Jay, and Eddie all these things start to kind of suggest to me that they're heading in the direction of potentially expanding their their map to not just Asia. But also US Europe all of those things in the future. They're hiring a lot of Dutch kick, boxers and things to Giorgio Petruzzi, and I could see them going into a lot of different places other than Asia in the future. I just think that's where they have their base and they're doing a good job of expanding in Asia first. And then we'll see where they go after that. So I'm pretty confident that even with one that I'll see that one day. So you're. Almost a year and a half in has gone to court. I mean, yes, you're undefeated. That's not exactly what I'm asking gone. According to plan. Yeah. Over all. I mean, the biggest things that I wanted from whatever we're going to Asian I would work with and like we said I decided on one championship. The biggest things that I wanted were people that I felt were going to look after my future. Well, that I wasn't just going to get like, you know, toss around the not cared about not taking care of. And people that we're going to give me fights that I needed experience, you know, like I needed to have fights in relatively short order twenty seven years old not to say that I'm like old or anything like that. But as far as mixed martial arts is concerned. Let's say I hadn't had any fights until thirty years old. I mean now we're talking about like, maybe the peak of mixed martial arts career career careers somewhere around mid thirties. Right. So now, I wouldn't even have my early experience until I'm in my mid thirties. So I'd end up peeking in terms of experience somewhere around late thirties possibly forty and I don't even know if I really want to be in this game that long I don't know if I really wanna fight them forty. I really just genuinely don't know if I want that. I think probably prefer to be done by thirty five to be honest. I mean as far as brain, trauma and stuff is concerned. I don't know how healthy it is to fight for that long of a career. But. That's that's kind of what I was looking for. And that's what I got. So as far as I'm concerned, I got the experience I'm being treated well, and I'm winning. So I'd say things are going and going, according to point one of the last of the Mohicans because it's still going to happen. It's always going to happen. You're going to get these people from ju jitsu matriculate over 'em may share. But a lot of the stopped. All those a Keenan Cornelius even Bush, Atias suppose as an example, these two guys you would have thought prime keyed into big. But even Nogi, right? So it's not bad. All right. Pretty good there as well. And they decided not to look back. I'm sure you have no regrets. But I wonder what you make what's that going to do to both jujitsu as a business, and what's it gonna do? Well could question I think that's what you're gonna do. I think that what you're going to see actually is as guys from jujitsu have success like myself. I think that will inspire other people from jujitsu to start moving forward in that direction as well. I. That there's been a low in guys transferring from jujitsu too, and they successfully for quite a while. So when people see other people do it, I think they'll be more guard. Tony did it. So I know it sounds weird but tone did I can do it. You know what I mean? I see I see that happening a lot in the in the near future. So I actually think that they're probably be more people coming over from from jujitsu too. Because people are going to be doing successful are going to be successful from jujitsu background. But as far as what I think about what's been going on prior to that. I mean, I think it's a shame. But at the same time, I think it's it's speaks volumes about Where'd you jitsu is now compared to where it was ten years ago or five years ago because I think another reason why it's not happening as often is because jujitsu is far more lucrative as it used to than it used to be five to ten years ago five ten years ago, you couldn't really make a living competing. Maybe if you're the top top level, you're making a living teaching a lot of seminar. Ars and stuff. But for the most part, the only hope of having a career was opening Jim, right? And that was the only way you're gonna make money. Now. These guys a lot of them. They can start websites to teach seminars they can compete for money. There's a lot more career opportunities available there. I think in the early stages not only was jujitsu more successful in MA, so people gravitated towards it. But that was where people could make a living there like, you know, what I've developed all these skills jitsu for a decade or for five years, or whatever the case may be what am I going to do with this other than teach? How else can I leverage these skills to make money in the future? And I think that's what what pulled a lot of people out of that jujitsu world into the world. And then it's a scary world. You're getting punched in the face some succeeded. Some didn't some adapted in some did not. But I think that that played into it as well. You don't do the same amount of wrestling matriculation, either couple of all Americans come through your share? But not nearly as much on that side. It's back to just before. Second mention like I'm not asking for figures. But how? Lucrative is the seminar circuit it seems to be a hard way to make a living when you're going. I'm going to Austin, I'm off to Portland, and you know, it's like hundred bucks ahead. It's seems like okay money, but then the seminars, and even if you have a bunch of people, it's not a rock concert, man. Like, what is it? Like, I still think I still think like I was saying before the there's only a certain tier of athletes that's going to be able to make a real serious living off of that. But I do I do think it's relatively lucrative. I mean, look at it like from a stand up comic standpoint, there's a lot of stand up comics out there. They do a very very similar thing. They have to travel to a lot of different places to do their stand up gigs and a lot of times not for a crazy amount of money. I would argue it's probably more lucrative than that. In terms of the amount of people that are going to be able to make make money doing it traveling and things like that. I could be wrong about that. I don't know enough about the stand up comedy circuit. I'm just saying that there there's other career fields that are very similar in. What you're saying? I think. Yeah. Is it a little bit of a hustle? Like, do you have to you have to work a little bit? You have to travel a little bitty your relationships going to be strained and things. Yep. -solutely, but I think just the possibilities there. But five ten years ago again, I don't know. I don't know if that was so much the case we'll let about this. How hard is on the body. Let me ask it this way. Again, my own personal experience. I just couldn't take it any. But then okay, I'm just average idiot. No, one cares about me. But then I look at people like the meow brothers. There's this famous picture of their fingers. Now, they're obviously a bit of an outlier. I'm not suggesting that Emma may is the same because the brain trauma, certainly is different. But higher checks kind of like, well, let me see what made me. Made me more like I mean, thirty years jitsu really good for a person. It depends. I can I can definitely say it's it's actually related to striking. Like, you just said if you take a look at most western boxers compared to Asian kick, boxers, for instance, Asian kick, boxers tend to have like two to three hundred fights by the time they end their career and most of them don't have a lot of. Serious brain trauma. You don't see nearly as many cases as western boxers. With guys are like slurring the words and they can't like function with their body properly. There's a couple reasons for that one. I think because there's the fights and things are so frequent their sparring is a little different. They don't do like crazy hard sparring the same way that western boxing does in the same way that honestly mixed martial arts in the west as well, usually trains, they trained very hard sparring, at least that's what I'm familiar with with most most camps that I've seen and then the other thing is the damage distribution over the body like, you know, they're kicking legs and things like that the body not always focusing on the head where in western boxing. It's mainly the head. Of course, there's somebody shots and stuff like that. So. Bringing it back to your other question, which was is thirty years. Jitsu good on the body similar idea. I think it really depends on the way that you train the brothers when they train when they compete take a lot of breaks. I don't know if it's a prideful thing or whatever competitive thing. I'm not really sure. But yeah, I mean, if you take a lot of breaks and training in competition like probably pretty hard on your body, and you may not function very well in the later years of your career or Richard mean, wait, physical brill-. I mean, like they like they'll let things break whether it's the ankle or or whatever the I've had matches with the beyond brothers and heard pops and things like that. And there's no tap. It's literally plenty of guys that do that a lot. And I'm not saying I've never toughed out a submission before. I don't know if I've ever let something just like completely snap. But there's some guys that do that, man. You know, I've I've matches where I need people, and they're they're completely caved in and they didn't tap. And it's so that's kind of like a personal choice. I think sometimes as to how much you're going to let you to impact your body negatively the same way that in striking. I think you can make that choice. Like am. I gonna do hard sparring four times a week or three times a week and just make every sparring session of. Or am I gonna do relatively light sparring more often, and those kind of decisions are going to play into your, you know, your longevity as far as an athlete or as far as injuries, or whatever the case may be I think there's a way to train jitsu, especially if you're going to be a recreational player where you're not taking quite as many of those injuries long-term. But I'll say it definitely took a toll on my body for sure I have a lot of long term injuries that I do or throat us. Not quite not in my hands. Anyway in my feet. My big my big toes like very separate from my other other Toews born that fat feet. So they get caught in the a lot. So they're kind of just in a constant state of swelling and pain. So yeah, I mean, I definitely have arthritis in my toes, but not really my hands my toes. I hate it. Feel awkward feels awkward from east. Sensory thing for me. Totally different gone. I can't I can't I can't mentally function. Without it. This looked serious enough. I would you know. All right. Let's talk about the equation here. Just a little bit. This is gonna sound like a silly question. But in today's I feel like it's actually quite pertinent, what are your competitive and professional ambitions? So the biggest thing is I main goal. You know, the long term goal is to become one greatest mixed. Martial artists of all time. That's just I think that going into sport like this. If that's not kind of wear your head is at and you want wanna do this like super short term. And like, I don't know if this is really the right to me. It'd be crazy to go into to fighting where like people are trying to knock my head off and not try to get some kind of grand result out of it. And just so yeah. Just one of the play around a little bit have a couple of fights. Like, that's terrifying to me, like fighting is terrifying. To me. I don't know how much I can communicate that to people like it's very scary. And the idea impossibility of getting like a lot of head trauma. We're getting Kayode in front of friends and family and things like that. It scares shit on me so on taking on that risk. But for some greater result. I really hope that I'm one of the greatest mixed martial artist. One. That's the first that would be the long term goal term though when a championship, right? And then after winning the championship focus on and this is what you see a lot of mixed. Martial arts doing right now. I'm sure many of them sometimes they have the championship or sometimes they do not after that's the case. They either go after multiple championships or they look in the direction of who is going to be the most exciting fight. Whether it's out of my division, or in my division, who's gonna be the most exciting fight that I can put myself in. So that the public goes. Oh, wow. I'd really like to see that. And you're seeing people cross all different kinds of of division sometimes jumping to divisions now to make those super fights happen where people would just be really excited, whether it stylistically whether it's because of some sort of beef, or whatever the case may be people are going out of their way now to make those fights happen. So that will be another goal of mine is to try to make those big name fights have and those exciting fights, whether it's in my way class or not. So how much consideration you must give some because the upside so much higher than to financial. I know that's not the. Key aspect of your life at this moment. It can't be your the Nessin stage chair. But at some point you're gonna turn that corner where the big checks are going to be a real possibility inevitability. Yeah. Have you have you given thought to what you want your career earnings to look like NAN? I don't have a number. I don't have a number. I think by chasing trying to be the best mixed martial arts of all time. That is what comes with it. It's like I said there's going to be some net gain from that whether it's pride, and and that sort of thing on or whatever it is. But obviously like you said additionally, the money's going to come with that. So as opposed to chasing money. Okay, for sure like I do my best to promote my cell phone social media. I recognize the fact that I'm a professional athlete. Not an amateur athlete. I'm not just out there to win. I'm also there to entertain people. So there's a lot that comes with that. Whether it be social media, whether it'd be presentation me dressing up like wolverine or something before a fight. Whatever it gets. Thank you. Whatever it is. That gets the ball rolling for fans, that's a big part of being a professional athlete and making money, etc. I understand that that kind of stuff comes with it. But at the end of the day like I don't know if I've ever seen somebody become one of the greatest of all time and not also make. Money. Right. So that's what I I'll focus my sights on that. And then let the money come. And I think that way it'll be a little less stressful to have to worry about both at the same time. You never you never gotten before. I did. But it's totally the same Horace. Yeah. Ours was was the scariest. I mean that was about as close to an EMMY fight as a person could have in a grappling match because Harris will swing at your head. He'll poke your eyes out. Like, he'll slam you tried to do to me. He'll he'll do a lot of dangerous things in the he'll try to even if he gets a submission. There's a good chance. He's not gonna let go if you. So there's a real the unlike most of the time when you compete NJIT where you usually have a choice going back to your previous question, you have a choice as to whether or not you're gonna get injured in a match with you don't necessarily have the same choice, usually it's a slow controlled break or something and I can tap. It's not so much the case. So that particular match, and you probably was the most terrifying match that I've ever had wait advantage considered like size and strength. Just the just the damaging effects of the opponent there. So so much going into that fight that made it match that made it nerve wracking for me, but much more so than any that was the closest to fighting anime that I got, but it still wasn't anything near the feeling of fighting for the first time or even the fourth time even this past one you had a certain degree into what is your coping? Mechanism. So just going back to that. So I remembered I didn't really, of course, I like I said I was anxious and and had a lot of nerves and things, but I didn't really feel it until I got onto the bus to go to the event this time the first fight I felt it when they were wrapping my hands because I never had my hand before like with the tape and everything like that does. So when the wrapping my hands, I'm like, oh, God, I have to get in the cage and fights fight a guy that's going to happen. This is Cecile in the deal right here. You know? So for whatever reason that's when the nerve set in and I was just like having a little mini panic attack. This fight. It was when I got on the bus to go to the event for whatever reason get on the bus to go to the event. I started feel a little nervous. I'm like, you know, what let me try to take my mind off things I'm going to watch some tape. This is what I usually do before my sparring sessions walked watch a little Mike Tyson. Every time I watch Mike Tyson throat punch. I'm like imagining my opponent hitting me with that punch that I'm like, all right? We ought to switch it up on my watch highlighted, Danny Bill. Kickboxer watching Danny every time. He throws a head kick. Somebody and hits him in the head. I'm like that's gonna be me. And I'm just getting worse and worse, and I just feel my heart pounding my chest. And I'm like, okay. I shut the tape off. Now, just put this down. And it wasn't until I got off the bus that I I was talking to my teammates and stuff, and I started to calm down a little bit. But that kind of having people out there that I'm very comfortable with helps me a lot. I like to keep things very light and joke around with my teammates and stuff and having John out there. Tom my training partner. Drew? It was very also my managers there Jeff and just communicating with all those guys and kind of joking around helps calm the nerves and set me more grounds me more back. What's the far stores walk me through your nerves? So so so it's funny that you mentioned that because it almost races everything like sure there's a little bit before the first couple of punches are thrown. There's a little bit of tension because you haven't actually got hit with that. Four Onslow yet. But. For me like when that bell rings? And I got the guy in front of me. I have ADHD I have trouble paying attention to things. But there's a very real fear of this dude knocking you out. So I have to have like laser focus. Right. So everything fades away. I'm not thinking about anything. I don't hear the crowd. I barely hear my coach. I see that dude in front of me. So honestly, a lot of the nerves kind of fade out and everything goes to whatever I did for training. So he threw a low kick at the beginning of the fight. And I immediately went for takeout. That was not a decision. I made I actually didn't plan on taking him down that early like in my head. I was walking myself through it. I was thinking about some different combinations. I wanted to throw this that and the other thing, and then that low kick happen body just folded and went in for a takedown, and that was just pure instinct like that's what I've been doing in training constantly. So my body said there's the opportunity to take them down. He's up on one leg. Go for the takedown. Once I got a hold on. I was like well he got up for a second. I'm like, no, no, no stay on top of this guy. Again. They weren't really decisions that I was making it was just kind of training setting in. So once it gets the actual fight. There's so much going on that. I don't I don't know how much I'm actively able to think and the anxious about the situation through to did you ever nervous. But did you ever have moments where because it just seems these days guard pulling everything so concerted with the game plan? Did you ever have moments where you went on semi autopilot like that? Yes. But you it's very different. Because jitsu there's a lot more time to think like there's a lot of periods of time where there is no action. Okay. Maybe not in my fights. But in many fights. And there you have the ability as an athlete jujitsu many times to either do things actively or do things statically to stop your opponent from really for instance, like if you really want on just not let somebody pass your guard or attack you you can just continue to palm your legs on the inside. And that kind of stalls the action, and you can give yourself a couple of seconds think if you're just not mentally with it yet. You can take that time. Right. So. So jitsu, I definitely felt some more anxiety because of the I didn't always need to do something. I could I could just keep my opponent at bay, and there was no necessarily no danger for certain periods of time in MMA. There's always danger. The only time that there's not danger in MMA, perhaps when you're in a perfectly dominant position where they can't hit you or completely away from the opponent. And there's no there's so much distance. They can't strike you those two things happen for very short. Periods of time in the sport. So it's it's rare that I get to get inside my own head. But jitsu you get inside your head sometimes. And I'd be like I like listening to my own heartbeat like while I'm holding onto somebody like all right? You really need to go to try to submit this guy. Now, you know, and I freak out a little bit. I had matches like that in the past. But and it's a little difference harder. For me to do that. I'm not gonna ask you how long are we going to be with one because everything's going? Well, so we'll just here's what it will say sure a rematch wanna see what's that? I wanna see you versus chrome Yemen. I I was dying for that before I even sign with one the first. Thing that I said was I wanted that so bad for years. I was asking for an engine, and then I kinda laid off because it was like all right? It's not going to happen. And then I saw fighting an MA, and I'm like, well, I wanna get to. I was like let me see what I can do to drum up some attention and see if I can, you know, maybe get that fight like as one of my first fights. And I was reaching out to some organizations by the time. I had already reached out. I think he had already hit already faded out of whatever I think he was in Reisen. I think he was already out of rising. I didn't know that. So I was talking with them a little bit. But it didn't really seem like that was going to happen. And now he's in the UFC. So obviously, you know, again, it's a lot of distance in terms of time as whether or not we'd be able to fight. I think the very real possibility would be more. So the grappling rematch would I like to fight him an MA shore? But people fans have to recognize when they see these cross promotional things like. One fighter in one and one fighter in UFC two realistically. See a fight like that happen. Even if all parties wanted it to happen. Just because contracts you're talking years down the line like you really are very rare for that red tape to just get cut like for any reason. It's almost impossible to do. So. I prefer to just talk about things that can really happen coulda grappling match between me and him rematch happen at any moment. There's nothing as long as the you have C says, it's okay. I know one allows me to do other other matches outside of one and they would even do the match in one. I don't know if you would let that happen. But that is something that could happen. We could have grappling match right now couldn't happen. But again, I absolute love that rematch in either grappling or it's just hard for me to talk about because I just know it's not going to happen. I was merely wished listing the shore. Also, just as you watch his fight against cancerous. Yeah. It was great actually was in. I think it was an airport at the time. I forget where I was going. Here's the thing about it. It's like, obviously his ground game and yours. I mean doesn't get a whole lot better than that. Really? He does seem to me though. So some of these guys, you know, that like so into the Gracie way care, I didn't know that I saw a whole lot that gave me some confidence about his long-term stand up could be wrong about I'm not making any bold declaration. Whereas you it's like there's a joke. Do you know BJ scout on YouTube? He jokes about it. 'cause there are people when you fight in the comment section this tone in guy, you know, maybe has to work on his ground game. But it's coming along real nice. That's like, oh, but but you certainly invested. I don't know that he again, if you take it to the floor with anybody it's going to be a hard day when he was doing that lot of Gracie stomp to cover distance. I was like, yeah. Did you see the same thing? So so I agree with you in most respects, I think even Hickson came out and said, I don't know if crawl krona's ever said this. But I think Hickson come out and said like, you know, everybody that does jitsu and they're doing an MA as going about doing things wrong way paraphrasing. I'm not one hundred percent sure about this. I think I think he has been quoted before as saying like men, they should really just focus on jujitsu. That's what made the fighters of the past great. That's what they just focused on jitsu, and they didn't really worry as much about the punching and kicking and stuff. Whether or not he's taking that strategy. I think it's pretty clear in most of his fights that that's the general idea is the use you to and not really focus on the striking aspect. We haven't gotten a real chance to see. I don't know necessarily. What it would look like I think he's been handling his fights similar to the way that I handled my last fight where it was like. All right. Let's just get the job done. But I will say I wish I wish him success in the future because anybody that comes for ju jitsu background that does may I want to see them succeed. Because for me. It's like a win for ju jitsu. It's like, yeah. You know, jujitsu does work in because there's always that argument that people throw out now because like you said less jujitsu guys or transferring may whatever all yeah, it doesn't work in a mania more. Right. So it's awesome to see a guy like him. You know, just use you win win a fight. I hope he succeeds. I hope that just like you said long-term that those striking skills do develop. So that he doesn't run into a guy like, for instance. And really struggled to put him away with just you because it's a tough guy to take down or get control of or whatever the case may be so yeah, I would I would like to see I would like to see that. If it isn't already there there kryptonite for Habib on the ground I interviewed Brian Ortega before the Holloway fight share. He seemed to think that he had the answer again as different way class to check is a good a good going. I mean, like a world class guard is that a is that a kryptonite for Habib and your mind could could be guard. Yeah. It really depends. I dunno if guard particular I think we've seen Khabib submit people before. Do I think he's capable of getting submitted by somebody who's high level submission artist? -absolutely I don't know if I'd necessarily call it a kryptonite like it's like this major hole, and he has no idea what he's doing. I don't know if I'd take that far. But I definitely would say that it's it's a way that a person could approach winning fight with Khabib. I think I think if if I was saying to myself. All right. What's what's the best ways to tackle this? This fight submission would be tie on the list. You know? I wouldn't say can't I just say to do twenty eight bama's all twenty eight or whatever it is twenty seven. There was one guy that fought off his take downs Gleason CBO. But even then you'd but he did he did he was also a weight class above and then later on ROY. And so it's like there's some dicey. This around. Oh, sure. Sure. I had his coach on last week. We asked how big you have to be defied office takedown, Luke rock old size, Jim legends. I don't really know. But it would seem to me like why waste energy trying to confront something on his terms in that way. When you can do it on yours with a short and the other thing to remember is that while you're fighting off the take down their submission opportunities. It's not it's not to say like, oh, let's just get taken down and work for my guard. Like, you're stating. Well, maybe as he's taking me down. We go for a guillotine. Maybe as he's taking me down. I go for camera. Maybe as he's trying to take me down. You know, I'm able to go after the legs. For instance, there's a lot of opportunities that I would refer to as submission wrestling. That would be there as someone's trying to take you down not necessarily long thought process of. All right. Well, I'm definitely getting taken down. What are we going to do from the guard? Right. So I think there's more opportunities associated with submissions available for a guy like that. Then just working off your back. Fighters. You really admire a fan when you watch goddamn. This guy's just or or lady absolutely definitely love could be style. I think you saw in my last fight. I've used a couple of techniques that you've seen could be using as far as single risk trapping and things like that big fan of his grapple box. I've been a big fan of Damian Maya and his work on the cage his work on getting to the back from all positions, huge fan of obvious. This is a little bias because he's on our team, but George saint-pierre as far as shoebox concerned. It's it's pretty close to unparalleled in the sport. As far as the way that he sets up take downs. So those are the kind of guys in mixed martial arts that I modeled myself after Damian for that kind of control, and that cage work same sort of thing with Khabib, and then George for the actual, let's get it to the ground sort style. And then there's as far as like striking and things are concerned integrated striking guys max Holloway. I find to be pretty intriguing got some really interesting things Israel out of Sonya. It's pretty amazing. So I mean, there's there's a lot of guys I do a lot of studying. There's definitely some names who you just shoot out. I'd be like who's that? I have to look at them. I'm not great with names. But I'm getting better as I'm studying more and more tape because most of the time when I'm watching these fights. Now, I'm not watching a fan like I used to. I'm watching is a student. So when I'm watching these fights, I'm not even necessarily paying attention to who's who or whatever the case, it'd be like all right? What's what's technique is this guy using to defeat this guy? So a lot of times it kind of slips through the cracks as to who it necessarily is. But some of those guys are so I kinda and so good at what they do it sticks. With me in the back of the head the ones that I mentioned favor, just productivity. Tichenor four an or for jujitsu pure period. Get two hundred. Hajer was definitely somebody. I looked at a lot coming through the ranks. But what I started to realize that I'm not saying that hydra doesn't have things that everybody could do, but Hajra has a very specific body type. So I believe everybody can learn from the things that hydra did for sure that I gravitated away from them as I got better because I was kind of like. This isn't exactly my body. Type. I don't really know if this is exactly what's going to work for me back when I was coming up. I watched originally Andre Galvao was in my weight class. I was a middle middleweight at the time. And then I finally stopped eating so probably at least prior tournaments, and then I started cutting down. I was I was lighter. And I started watching more the Mendez brothers. So I was big fans of them and krone actually to chrome was amazing Marcelo Garcia just when I was studying for ADC Marcello is probably one of the people that I watched the most Marcello and the Mendez brothers as far as technique was concerned Marcello watching him a lot for work and some sweeps off bounds. You just really really good all around the game. So yeah, I have a lot. It's hard. I hate favorites. Like, I don't really like to choose favorites. Even with with anything. There's I'm very much like the kinda guy that goes to a restaurant chooses the different different things. Every single time. I'm always trying new things. So everybody's I hate just as far as like when you when you look at martial arts or anything like that. I hate just looking at one person and trying to model myself off that person even in life. I think that everybody usually gets very good at certain things. And then a lot of the other things suffer or they're not very good at them. Right. Everybody. Can't be great at everything can't be perfect. So I think it's much better to look at this guy for this look at that guy for this guy as opposed to just like I'm going to model my entire game of this guy. Because now I'm just going to be a slightly crappier version of that guy more than likely that guy spent his whole life developing those skills, what are the chances that I'm going to somehow get better than that person? Was that particular skills that I'd rather try to take a little bit of what he's good at? And then a little bit. What the other guys get, you know? A couple more questions, which are you in and out or five guys all guys like one hundred percents. Thank you. Thank you, all these west coast Dullard, you gotta get the fries animal style. You gotta get the fuck out. Gotta do because it ain't as good as five. Thank you. Thank you who first of all who even puts thousand island dressing on salad. Let alone clown. French fry not even a desirable dressing to begin with. Now, we're gonna put it on French fries. And the French fries are like paper thin. It's like eating that flag. That's on like, I'm not even big fry guy. But that's a whole different story. I don't know, man. I think it's good. It's like some remarkable amazing thing that the Californians would like you to believe it is. And do I necessarily think that about five guys, I think five is pretty good too. Again. I don't I don't like the way people rave about in and out. Just like you guys talk about this. This is God's gift to burgers. And it's just not like come down. It's like a notch above McDonald's. Thank you. So happy you said that despite all the time with these clowns I'm gonna get so much craft. I hate mail from office for sure. Economic before you go the cutting process or the the way in thing that one does I wanna do a whole video on this? Because positional care I'm not in any way, suggesting that one is not telling the truth. But yet remember my position in this scenario. I'm a media guy. Yeah. The media doesn't cover the way in and they release the numbers. And so red flag goes up not saying, it's not true. But I'm on the other side looking at it. And there's no organizational transparency here. I'm going to have question. I've never asked them why they do that. It's being used to. I probably should ask them why they do that. Because I agree with you from the outside looking in. It's hard to say like it would be hard to say like, oh, they're being transparent. If like you said, they're not releasing numbers. And they're not allowing media or whatever the case may be. I'm sure they have their reasons. I I wish I could say what those reasons are. But I actually have never specifically asked. I know many other people like yourself have raised questions about that. Who knows maybe they'll answer it in further interview or something like that? I don't know if anybody's public. Acid and they deflected or if they actually tried to answer it. I'd have to research to find out, but I will say this to my knowledge. This is the way things work. We have to weigh ins and to hydration tests. Okay. So you weigh in two days before your fight. You weigh in one day before your fight along with each of those weigh ins at the same time or moments after after you weigh in or before whatever you have to take your hydration tests. Okay. And if your urine is shown to be dehydrated, the only people that would understand what I'm talking about right now is collegiate wrestlers scholastic wrestlers because they often have to do this at the beginning of the season to gauge how much they're allowed to lose during the season which way class they're able to fight in. But in one you have to do it for every fight. Whatever your waited is it has to be a hydrated, wait. So if I'm one seventy s to be a hydrated, one seventy I can't dehydrate twenty pounds and then show up. And then when I when I p my urine will show up the hydrated. They literally watch you do it. So for sure there's no no cheating. It, you know. But what I will say is you don't necessarily when I first came to them. I fought one seventy right. When I had my second fight against Rahul Rajoub. I realized that was not my weight class that dude was huge compared to me. So he was a giant. And I realized that there has to be some amount of weight that you can still pass this hydration. Because walking around like if I'm eating healthy. I'm really more like one sixty five ish, I'm really eating healthy. So I was like I'm scratching my head. I'm like, I'm like, I'm thinking I could probably find a way to get to fifty five. So what you have to do is you kind of have to you have to really drink a lot of water, and then you can do your weight cut, and you can lose some water. I don't think you can lose even I think even ten pounds of water would be that would red flag their their their hydration tests. I think somewhere between five seven pounds is probably the max that you can you can go from particular body weight and cut down from right? I don't think you can do much more than that. And actually pass their hydration. So it's all I'm saying is that based on the way that they order things you wouldn't be able to have a dude. Khabib who walks around that over two hundred pounds and fight one for the five I think that's impossible in their organization. So in some ways, it's great because now I know that I'm not gonna fight the dude as long as you know, how to how their weight cutting system works anyway because it took me two fights the figure that out. I'm not gonna fight a guy that's thirty pounds. Heavier than me even Rahul Reggie being bigger than me at one seventy. It wasn't thirty pounds bigger than me. It's like fifteen pounds bigger than maybe. Right. So having said all that. In in that way. It's good guys aren't losing these crazy amount of weight. But in the sense that you have to do it twice. I'm gonna make wait times. That's kinda rough tough to do that two times in a real. And it's a little bit of a shortened, wait cut. I can't wait cut for twelve hours because I'm gonna hydrated, right? So you can only do it in a certain short period of time. So if you're running or whatever it is you got to do it in a very short period of time over although is it safer for the athlete. Probably not losing nearly as much way less than do you. See your opponent. William do. I see. No. I think we go in one at a time. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. All I'm saying if it's good as they say, it is everyone I've ever talked to individually jer raves about it. Yeah. A little more transparency. Yeah. Yeah. Supposedly show if you miss either one the first day or the second day hydration or wait. You have to weigh in the day of the fight. So they give you three opportunities to make this work. And definitely didn't wanna weigh in the day of the fight. So. I try to make sure I nail those first two way to your class act man, and I'm really happy for your career growth. I know you came all this way with no news to share which I'm incredibly bitter about. However, when do you think you might be able to give us some information about your next fight? It's hard to say with them for. Sure. Oh, yeah. Well, let's see. Yeah. Within the month? They should have information. I would hope I hope I think it only helps them to release it within the month. So that I could start promoting this thing. But absolutely. I'd be fighting very soon. Quick turnaround time tough-guy southpaw this time, and we're going to be fighting in a ring instead of a cage have to learn how to do that. Which is interesting. So I'm a little worried about that. Because I haven't really done any training inside of a ring. Most of the I do all my training, in fact in a cage. Just simulate what I'm gonna do. They're so interesting to see over the for coming in. I really appreciate my job. Take you out. Thanks. All right. Gary Tony one of the best smart man to because he understands what burgers are about not thousand island dressing you peasants. All right. Let's do it. Now, it's time for the sound off. We'll do that. Let's do that. Brit. Mississauga? I want a little long apologized. We're going along. But it was a good combo. I was enjoying it. So there you go. It was fun where he at their time areas. Is the case? Oh, Blanco to my hot chocolate areas. He was making on Instagram yesterday. Had a little breakfast had any day now with cheese. I mean that's about as well. Here man, we bring a tear to my wife's is fun. All right. We don't have time to waste because I went a little over board with him. But let's do these calls. What do we do it? Well, it was in a busy weekend may. But like man, we've got a lot of questions and a lot of them surrounding bare knuckle, boxing, so let's go straight jump into it. Hey, look into any. This is Shaun calling from Fresno, California. Unfortunately, Luke, I checked out a big mouth strikes again. Really good song, by the way. My question is what did you think of the Artem Lubov? Jason Knight fight if you saw it and does it raise your interests that all in bareknuckle fighting? Thanks. So I did see it. I was at once entertained I was at once concerned and also a little bit horrified. There has been a lot made that bare knuckle is better for you than with the gloves. I'm not sure I believe that. I'm not sure I believe that. Now, here's what here's what I'm saying. Also, not saying it's not true Danny, but their faces were badly cut up in ways that you don't typically see I've seen every injury with MA. But there's a certain rhythm to what the injuries. Look like this seemed to be like if these guys go for five rounds. They don't get other out. Their faces are gonna be attacked by a dog, which they do how much forgot which fighter tweeted out a photo of Jason night. And right next to a photo of Chucky. Do you couldn't tell those torn apart? So that was it was. Yeah. And then you know, how much brain damage they take no one really knows. It's like do they're going through all that apparently became c is paying people more than normal. But God man, that's a hard way to make a living. That's a really hard way to make. Plus, these these are essentially the moneymakers, right? Like, if you have hand problems man that can really hinder your career, and you know, gloves, definitely. Detect that and give your hands a little bit of longevity. Whereas in bare knuckle men, some of those hands are swollen up. And you look at the way their hands are looking they're looking pretty battered. So you know, it's not only the face. But but but also these bans what did you did you like it? You know, what it was entertaining? I mean bare knuckle has been around for a little bit like I remember watching Joya BELTRAN verses Tony Lopez. Right. And man that was exciting and Casey and Esther went to that event and covered it, and I'm like, oh, this is great. But then as more events have ruled out to be honest, like it's kind of losing a little bit of interest, at least on my end because within a may you get so many different looks, right. The wrestling guy that you jitsu guy Sombo judo, all kinds of striking. Whereas this I kind of feel like it's a lot more. It's a lot of brawling men and don't don't get me wrong. I love brawl, so I love, you know, those type of wars like the Jason I in Artem Lobov. But I mean at some point he it's kinda like I'm not saying it gets old, but it's kind of repetitive. I don't know if you feel the same. It just seems like I don't know. There's this. It is what keeps me going is the creativity. This seems a little bit more one note, let's have some violence and. So again, it's like a cupcake with just the frosting, I love frosting, but what makes a cupcake work is the marriage of frosting and the spongy cake. Yeah. So I watch it. Yes. But I'm still more of a fan of that may even though it could be more boring and whatnot or have less action. So you know, some this question up I saw it. I liked it. But. I mean, I don't know. It's not really my theory also concerned about their health. Yeah. For sure. But I mean, I do say, I think I think. Actually, I'll just save my thoughts, and we'll tackle question. And then I can burn. His next. Chipper Dallas brother this Verlaine, Colin from Seattle Washington. This wanted to hear your take on the with the, you know, the bare knuckle fighting coming out, and you know, the recent five with Russian hammer and increased by your take on what does this do for a D think kind of sits back, and and raise some light on the violence or people going to be shocked by that. And just kind of lump them all into one group, or or do you think it's it's good it gives fighters another revenue stream somewhere to go. You're on a take on it. The general idea here is that. Yes, it does. Give fighters another place to go gives a certain kind of fighter. Matt Brown was suggesting that these guys were be classified IRS. I that's not an insult. That's a fair classification. So yes, it gives them defecate is a type of fighter. I mean, we've seen Chris Lieven we've seen BELTRAN was retired and coming out of its guy guys who either wash out you have C or have been retired. But still have a name, but even then like the type of fighter the brawler, obviously Demi in my is not well situated to do. Well, and became FC to your point. Yes. So look at caters to a certain kind of fighter both in the position in their career the way in which they fight. But again, we need to make sure that these guys get paid, and we need to make sure that there's proper health screenings, and we need to monitor exactly what this does to a person. Because a lot of this is uncharted territory. Said oh bare knuckle used to exist back in the day, and it did. But it hasn't really for a long time and to do it for five round. Again, two minute. Whatever it two minute. That's still a lot of brawling bare knuckle man, their hands were messed up their faces were just really bad. Let's see. Let's see how it goes. Yeah. But as far as what it does. So glad of that. He gives an outlet to you know, fighters, and paulie, gee, we had them in studio last week. And you saying he was getting paid a lot of money. Right. So it does give retired a guy an option a comeback. Also, it can produce other story lines. So, you know, I'm retired guys becoming back. That's also true. Yeah. I mean, we'll see it's all as you said on chartered territory. So. It's hard to make firm conclusions. Yeah. All right. All right now. Let's talk about the big fight coming up this weekend. Yes. From city strata this point in time, which of the main event fighters on you thirty six g consider posing a bigger threat to Cabela's title on the same lines, which of the Crimean event fighters is a west stylistic match up for our. But we didn't call. Thanks for your hard work. So we got to intern belts on the line. Right. Gas Aloom going at it without a sign. Yeah. And then Holloway going at it with poor area which two of those which which which could give the respective champion the biggest challenge. So I think people know my preferences on this one I made this point back win max decided he wanted to fight. Habib you have C two twenty three and everything apart Max's takedown defense defenses some of the best that period, maybe takes him down. He takes on everybody. Right. But the reality is the dude max Holloway has incredible takedown offensive fights days on the feet at all max Holloway sets him on fire. Meanwhile, dust Emporia has done defense as well as understanding and good ground game. But that's not where he's gonna be best able to hurt. Habib. So I'm gonna say we'll see how things goes weekend. But my haunches max Holloway. Yeah. Yeah. I think with that one is a bit of a tossup. I I'm not really sure I think both guys are elite obviously very skilled fighters, but I'm leaning more towards Holloway, given the style. But yeah, it's tough. Then on the middleweight side. I'm a little bit biased. I think I keep sleeping on Kelvin gasoline. Yeah. And I think I always have I'm not the best to give an opinion on Kelvin because I certainly respect him. But I keep misidentifying how good he is. But you guys also know how I feel about his oughta sign. Yeah. I think look the key insight to Israel sign you that nobody picks up on her talks about enough is the fainting. Those guys at city, boxing, basically believe that fainting is the key to everything and if somebody faints and the other guy doesn't or one person is better at fainting than the other one. The fainter should always win is raw to sign is one of the best fainter in the game. He really is. So to me the issue here is that I think as long as it's going to be a standup battle. He's going to be the better fainter than anyone that division. So I'm going to pick him, but Whitaker is amazing. I have been wrong about gasoline so many goddamn times. Yeah. For sure I think I'm gonna go that assign you the same because I feel like rubber Whitaker has already gotten that look in his career. He's fought, you know. I mean, you're you'll Romero twice a guy that can hold his own on the striking. But really good wrestler. Jack creek again, not exactly the same as gasoline, but similar looks whether you go out of science someone completely different new with a different style and Whitaker's not really the guy that will take you down. So he'll be fighting at a Sonya where he feels most comfortable, which is on the feet. So I'm leaning towards that assign you, but man Whitaker would occurs amazing in. So as gasoline so topic of. This is not really a question. More of a suggestion. So let's hear it, right? Right. Luke Tanner here from New Orleans. I love the show. He recent appearance on below the belt with Brandon. Shop was absolutely amazing. Love how Frank Hugh are. And I love how pragmatically you've you the world on that note left ear a similar type of interview with you and Josh Barnett on the hour just chat about life metal and philosophy. I don't know if like an hour. So I got guys. Cheers have fun. Yeah. He's a belt or built up with I've invited Josh on a he thinks I don't like him, which is not true at all. I actually like Joshua lot. I think that would have a lot of like Joshua. I once made a point about how cyborg was mistreated by a community, and I use Josh as an example to make that point. I think he thinks I don't like him not true at all. I have total respect for Josh. And as I made quite clear during his feud with you Sada, he was I made clear to note. He was totally railroaded and done wrong, which is unfortunate. But I am quite happy to see that. He is back on his feet. He apparently had a grand. Weekend in. And what do you call it all blood sport here in the city? Yes. And then he signed with belt or so he had a big weekend a big week. So yeah, he's got an open invite on the show day time. I've great respect for Josh Burnett and glad to see he's got another the war master has another chapter. Yes. Annabel through which will truly fun. There's a lot of good names. Here's a good organization. Yes. It's a good organization of your heavy with the name. Then it is. And he's still got we don't actually know how talented he is. I mean, we know is what I'm saying. What's left hasn't had a lot of wear and tear in the last couple of years. Might have even been helping. So yeah, I would see. All right now. Let's talk about your favorite topics. Okay. Step of that. Also, by the way, congrats on that interview with Brennan Shaw. Those those great stuff, you know, what man you don't get a lot of shot. Yeah. Of course him too. But mostly I should say. I was what I noticed. We know what took from the interview or the response to it. I don't think people I've been on camera for years. I kind of thought people understood me, and it turns out a lot of people just didn't realize who I was or didn't they got very well. And I guess that video went along way towards showing based on the reception of getting people seem to know who I am better now. So I'm very grateful for that. You don't get a lot of opportunities like that. And that was one of them. That was a good stuff. Right. Wrassling. I'd rather die. Luke. This is Don Don Carson from shits fill. Call him to get your opinion on wrestlemainia have a great day. I'm guessing you watch. I watched you stayed up all of none of it. Yeah. I don't care if people like it great. What do you want me to say? I mean, you know, all I'm going to do by answering. This question is make everybody who had nice things to say. After being on Brennan shops, podcast bitter at me. If y'all like professional wrestling, keep watching it. I I have tried. I have tried. It is awful. I do say, I think this is worth of Brooklyn Lessner lost. If I'm not mistaken, which could potentially set up a a comeback for him, and he's still my heart. So we'll see great. Also, I did go to a pro wrestling show on Thursday. I think our own Mark Monday drag me out there, and it was fun. It was I say the Indy. One is a lot better than what you see on TV and all that because his less acting and actually it'd be worse. That's legitimate Hubbard yours, it's actually pretty good. It's it's a show. It's it's acrobatics the guys with lettuce, and they're actually doing things that require a lot of skill and and a lot of the acting, which is horrible. It's it's all taken off. So my understanding is that the nothing, but my understanding is the indie scene right now is having something of a renaissance where it really the best professional. Wrestling doesn't really exist in the WWE again, if somebody people like man, I encourage you to keep watching. Yeah. This is a phone question. Pretty creative from this caller. So listen. Good. Thoughts on manual. Good questions fabled comic books role movie, you could replace the main curator from that movie with a crow you have vital wouldn't be. Thanks. Jesus. Now, though, I because I had some time to think about or go first, so I'm not big into into comic books, and I don't to be honest. I'm going to catch some hate on this probably, but I'm not into superhero movies anyways. But one that I really like and respect it's the whole dark Knight series. So my favorite is Batman. I just thought it was greatly shot. The cast was great everything about it was it was great fearing for the billionaire. So and if I had to pick an EMMY fighter to replace cushion bail. It would be Carlos Condit you'd fit in. He's got that that grin. You know, I don't know. Boy, natural killer. That's a good one. Let me think let me think. Favorite one while the dark? Knight was good, obviously. Favorite of all time. Good lord. There are a bunch of them. I'm not sure how to answer that. I mean, I really enjoyed ventures Finnity war, which I know is the latest of the big ones the best one. I saw recently was the animated one which was into the spider verse. Did you see it? No. It's phenomenal hurt is not the rotten tomatoes ratings audiences and critics. I would say the, you know, what's really liked as a kid the animated Batman series. It's dark and brooding. And there's not a lot of dialogue. It's really really good. I I was the best. It was the best comic book series ever brought to life. So which was also Batman, obviously. So yeah, I guess I don't know who had I replace him with you know, what just to have a little fun, Mike Perry. Let's make us make Mike Perry. The new Batman imagine. How great that would be fun today. Go different kind of that that many. Sure, I yet time for one. We do cool. This is a bit of an old question. But I feel like with what's happened with you have see and the pay per view has changed the conversation a bit. So okay. Let's let's hear it. Christian from St Louis call earlier, but I I don't think I specified enough. So my question is why are we not talking about? The fact there's way too much weight jumping between champs. Holloway as fine. I get that. And I said that when I dropped a call earlier, but Henry pseudo should be defending his own belt against twenty five years. Why is he moving up to thirty five to defend it or to fight for the belt when TJ is no longer in it. It made sense when TJ was around TJ's not around anymore beef doesn't make sense anymore. So why does that fight makes them Marlin? Mariah should be somebody there, but you get it. Yeah. I don't understand either other than that's what they probably think is best for sales, and or okay. Yeah. But yeah, it's best for sales. But with the UC PM pay per view deal, which guarantees them up front, right? It's supposed to be a pretty fat sum of money. I mean, does it even matter the ratings all that much anymore? Right. Like, yeah. It does a little bit. I mean on some level a little bit. You don't have to worry about putting on a pay per view. That's going to do one seventy or something like that. Because well, I don't support this decision. But on the other hand, we need to be careful. We're arguing here you do not want the matchmakers and the UFC so immune to market pressures that they no longer feel beholden to them, and they can go purely in a sporting context because here's the reality using the matchmaker model. Using the matchmaker model to subvert pure sporting criteria. Not all the time. But sometimes is going to end you up in a better place. I don't agree with the call here. I do think that pseudo should be fighting one twenty-five. But I guess my point is Danny you do want them to feel market pressure. So if they're if they're responding in a way where they are. I don't agree with this call, but I liked that general instinct, but okay. So if you had to do like a line of market pressure, and then I guess from the sporting standpoint, don't you think perhaps at least in my view, I feel like we're a little more leaning towards market pressure than we are on the sporting side. We absolutely are. They they're getting this one wrong. So wouldn't wouldn't that? Yes. Bien deal being exclusive to paper view, wouldn't that help that at least bring it back in balance. It a little more shore. I just don't want folks to say what does it matter anymore? It matters a long, right? Yeah. Of course, because it's not about maximizing sales as such. It's about. What the mentality is about maximizing sales, which is making sure Emma may is big enough that it stayed relevant enough just consciousness, that's the point. I make for sure I don't know. I still would I know we've talked about this at length. But like I still love to see Henry defend the belt at one twenty five. Even if you're going to close that division. All right, fine. Keep releasing the guys that you're releasing. But have the guy defend the built a couple? I agree. I agree. One more one more. Okay. Do you wanna talk about the chances home in Santos have or you saw and a lifetime ban. You saw them the lifetime ban. I do. I'm going to cut this Lukin dating Mike Philadelphia actually went to UC had a great time. The stadium was all what a lot of people that. I I expected. It was maybe my question is about you saw to get a lifetime ban. From you Saudi does that immediately nullify your of see contract, and there's no way they can keep contract, right? It doesn't back door somehow getting out of you see contracts, if you were willing to go that far also we know if you saw can and you can get a five year or ten year band just wondering about how long people can keep locked up and not fighting. Thanks bye. So okay. Two answers to that start with the first one you'll see has to give you fights. If they can't because you're banned by you Saad, I believe that they are contractually obligated to release you you will see Roussel mega mid of. If you continues to fight you'll see him in some. Overseas promotion, whether it's Japan or what's the threshold of time like say TJ dillashaw gets here. I mean, he's got at least one year ban. Right. Yeah. I mean, they can't give them fights. Obviously. Yeah. I haven't seen the language, but the idea there is that it's only temporary. There would presumably be able to do at some future date. So if its lifetime, you're I think what happens is freezes the contract. But if you're if there's no point that what you can be unfrozen than they're not able to fulfil the terms in which case the thing becomes null and void. So look he is going to be fighting. If you to fight in some fight for he fought for optimum believe, so he'll fight for you know, on Qadeer or rise in or somebody. He's not gonna fighting in they'll find again. First second of all he could under-funding for Bella tour because you might serve a spent according to the Commission's. But once that's over. They're not gonna lifetime ban him. So he could see him in bits, and they and they don't have to respect you saw certainly do not. So there's that. So as the second part could they five or ten years. Well, here's where it comes from. You see these things like two and four at eight years. This comes from the Olympic cycle. This is where it comes from the ideas that the Olympics every four years world championships typically every year they and this didn't get instituted until twenty fourteen or two thousand fifteen or maybe twenty thirteen twenty fourteen these are all still relatively new because Danny as I keep trying to tell people everything they keep trying keeps failing. So they keep ratcheting it up and the next levels to criminalize it, of course, they're gonna throw people in jail over this which are literally trying to do in any event. So the idea there is we get you to miss certain cycles. This Olympic cycle to Olympic cycles. Presumably, you could get an arbitrator. Panel to then reduce or up a four year suspension to five or reduce eight to five more up eight to ten but typically it goes in those two to four to eight year increments. And maybe panel could fudge it. Yeah. And why are we using these cycles if this year round sport professional sport with narrow window and we've borrowed from an Olympic cycle, which has nothing to do with the way in which our sports operate our sports operate month. Basically anything any suspension five years, or above is pretty much a death sentence may like you're done unless warning or something or twenty five I suppose, even then it would be horribly destructive. So yeah. But you know, you don't get a lot of people sympathizing. But the question is not about being going easy on the question is what kind of policies can you reasonably enact to either minimize the harm that these things. 'cause that's that's the that's the answer. And the answer is just the get tough policy. It didn't work for any other drug in the war on drugs. I don't know why people are confused and think it's going to work for this one. But okay, people have decided they would like to see this. Fail before they come around to my position. So I will wait. That's it. That's it. Hi, danny. Good job. Thank you. All right. I have another job. I have to go do. But with I we're not done here. We have to go to my interview with one Mr. Alston over him. I spoke to him yesterday about many things he's headlining UFC Saint Petersburg about Volkov about all bunch of stuff. I have to leave. So I want to thank all my guests, including Mr. over information time for me yesterday. Of course, you can keep sending tweets using the hashtag the MA. Our you can keep calling eight four four eight six six two four six eight. But for now, here's my interview with Alston ovary, and I'm joined now by UFC heavyweight Alistair ovary. All right Alistair. Let's get right into it. You know, what I was actually when I started on a bit of a different way. I know you're going to we'll talk about your fight with Alexia Lynn coming up here in the twentieth of April. But what's funny is you've been around really long time. You've seen a lot. What do you make of this move to streaming that all the promoters are doing do you like it or not? I don't have any pain or that actually not over talking about. Okay, streaming. It's next level. Right. You're you as promoter you want your content to be available to everybody. Everybody has a hand L. I guess it's just the next of Lucien put too much mind into it. Because your guy who's like, you're not in consequential places, you're either own big cards or men eventing. But I suppose it's not something you really terribly pay a lot of mine too. No, I'm not sure the public really just been on training camp and stuff that manage for me. And yeah, if it's streamed on the device and all that's small details. Twee enough. All right. How's colorado? I know you're out there with all of Asian fights. How's it going this time around? Actually liking your lock writing the state like new people and most you do restaurants. The team has been absolutely amazing humiliation, some very happy joined Bill thing every day to better mix more artists better fire, and yeah. Anxious to showcase new skills. Right. It's coming up. Thirteen years away. You know, what's interesting story. You have your guys mention before you've been around. You've seen a lot you've trained in a lot of places to you've gotten so many looks you've seen really the best that has had to offer in terms of training and coaching environment. Could you imagine yourself? How'd you stayed in like one or two places? If I want to dip probably retired. What? Well. As you can get compromised. It's not for everybody, but I have been compromised a couple times your career and to me it was do or die time. I had some exchanges. Sometimes they all of change, but it's to make change. But we'll continue my career. This. Let's go back to my last loss to critters bless that was two in a row because they had lost France. And then whilst crudeness, and I was out of Jackson's the chemistry there. We had a good chemistry. But it was just finished. And to me, I still don't fight. So you're going to keep doing something that doesn't work for you. Or you're gonna make changes and figure it out again. And to me I had to do to figure out again. I I still felt that could do that. Back then I was pretty seven thirty eight years old now. But yeah, I can still do it to do it. Is there any chance? There must be a challenge between going team two team. Like, the good side must be all the great training partners. All the great looks all the great coaches, right? All the best practices that you get to learn on the other hand, it must be hard to like learn how to meet all these new people all the time. Like, what are some of that? Okay. So let's forget I've been training for twenty six years. I I was my first pleasures Chevron. So it's it's it's it's to me, that's obvious. You're going to have at least a couple of different cancer. Well back in the day. He was. There was another issue. You would go for Cape box. This team you go for grappling to that. Go for wrestling to him. So it would be different gyms. Anyway. Now, it's more all in one house still, you know, Jackson hap- everything wrapping up for striking. Still, and you you just mentioned. Okay. When you go to your team, you're going to have to take it brought your old team. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if that's always a bad thing sometimes chemistry's done, and when when there's no clear direction, but there is direction fight. But there's no clear direction. There's not really good communication this. Good thing. That's changed. It might twenty six years changes actually, always been aggressively. Actually, the only the only place not change within the black to that was truly terrible. And. That show and I'm gonna change out of there. And it went better to to to to Jackson may. So that Kim she was finished because it's like every relationship in relationships things can can Kimber. She can go go down. It's not always a perfect marriage forever. Unfortunately, in in the past have say goodbye, the coach was perfectly okay with, but I have to do it because. Yeah, I wanna find that make the most of my career, and they special always live by. But face I wanna make the most of my Chris, you're gonna say goodbye to people to groups two teams to for not go. Yeah. That's that's ounce. That sounds right. Just piggybacking on that your guys is you will know who's seen the world seen all the best of a may gyms. It's less of an issue now, but you know, from a Brazilian culture and the just world if you change teams, they would call you a crianza or like a traitor and some of that bled. Emma may but that seems geographical right? Because you guys had a Europe. It doesn't seem like as much of a big deal. Maybe that's more of a South American kind of thing where people train change memes. It's the end of the world. Yeah. But but even in Brazil, you go you go there and you look at what happened to Brazilian top team. And then she'd box the ad unless chevalier shoebox Shogo shoebox come to the stage. Also, presented talk came big. Why did those fighters leave? Why would it Trey? There's there's. There's news out there that the teams were stealing there's practices. Of course. There's Napoli did happen to me golden Moore, of course, going to leak. You're not going to stand it situation. Somebody's gonna take advantage of so. Yeah, every case different. It is what it is is development is life. You know, you learn for for for everything that happens. All right. And then the end you're gonna get exactly what you have. Now is interesting as you mentioned it'll nation fight team. A great team you had just thought Curtis blades. Now you rebounded since then. But I'm wondering what your relationship is like with Curtis and how that has been sincere begin training with him. So we were actually voting before we fought actually, I just stepped up to after after Mark, hindsight and resell. They should go training together one time 'cause that was actually in the lack of spa important Jackson's and he responded positive. Let's dog we exchanged numbers we start texting. But then going on and we stop texting. Then the fight happened. I lost. I reached out to I'm going to be Denver tubes. Schiller combine he's really Paul's. Very open. Yeah. Come through Jimmy, Tex tagger the time and. Yeah. It's it's it's it's I mean, he's a great fighters. Great athlete. Great guy as well. Really? Actually, like him I've trained emits years. With of professionals, Walter champions, a lot of strong fighters and could favorites. No ego whatsoever. We don't discuss our fight we lift each are up to the Bella level. And. That's it's great to be part of the team. Great help on his journey to to grad this. Let's talk about your upcoming fight. You were supposed to take on Volkov. He gets yanked. And you're gonna face Alexi Olympic any thoughts about the opponent change. Well, so election, and I have a little bit of history where we're actually okay together. We're friends I like him a lot we helped him when this crow crow fight so thirteen and then he helped me on the frame fight. And then then he sung with you. She so I kind of knew some how somewhere that we might. And the fighting to get it to me. It's not a problem because we're not. Yeah. We're not t- mansion it's been years ago that we that we helped since fine. I kinda know what to expect. He's tough veteran fighter sneakers submission game. Yeah. It's it's fine. He's writing them or ten I think they'll eleven nine. Let me verify that he is ranked nine he is right now. None of question. What what happened to vocal? Do. You know, what happens? I don't. There's always a lot of rumors that are being spread. And I don't I don't want it. Look anytime someone. Is in a main event, and then it gets out of event or you have c- fight and gets out of fight, obviously everybody and their brother is going to say do what you sought violation. But I'm not sure that that has been confirmed by you saw it at this point. Oh, actually, you know, what actually I might be wrong about that. Here is the official. You have see statement if I can pull it up here. The official. You have statement is as follows a pull this up due to health issues. Alexander Volkov has been forced to withdraw from as Alastair over him. So they put up to health issues. I think there have been other unconfirmed reports from a Russian sites that have said it was due to an anti-doping violation. So it's a little bit murky at this juncture. Let's let that be. Yeah. Fair enough Olympic Lennox our game. You know, he's got this Zeki choke, which is kinda funny, although we did beat murkland without it with a different kind of win. At this point. You've seen so many looks right. Like, you don't wanna take a guy lightly? But I can't imagine you feel I don't know overly threatened by it. Okay. So the only thing is that vocal entirely different than than the actual. I think that's the only thing. But you know, what I had this one. When they came won't fight. It was extra training for pro. And then crow crawl something happened with you or something through. And then they came about our listen on the free cokes fights not happening. But you got five butter and cable, and I'm at this phase right now. I mean, a great shape. I feel ready wonderful. I wanna kick ass, and it is this. I'm ready. So doesn't really matter. What is sort of guidance cut you off? Go ahead. Finish your thought that I'm just ready to kick ass. It doesn't matter who what when where we're going to get it on. Aside from being ready, though, from your judgment is there a way to says what the wind gets you your previous opponent was ranked six one's nine. Then again, you put together wins in the heavyweight division. You never know what could happen from your vantage point. What do you see as the ultimate benefit of a win here? A win is a win win. And then after the figure out what's next, right? If you just need to keep stacking, those winds and then get your title. I'm not really I don't really look at the rankings. I'm just folks on the guy. So he's ranked ninth. That's it is what it is. What six six nights? That's kind of. Okay. Yeah. I think you're sitting seven at the moment. Yeah. Still good position to be in. Yeah. So you're to be thirty nine in may twenty nineteen big year few. If you put this together, you'll have back to back wins. What do you what do you hope to get out of this calendar year? If I spoke to you on January one twenty twenty where do you where do you want to be at that position? So I would like to fight another actually twice this year. Forgets timber than the end of the year and then Wyndham five dollars. Right. When you stick to me, January twenty we're going to be very happy because we're winning all over back in the willing him and in title contention. Is that what you need you need? What let's see once three more wins the idea at, but I'm I'm just fighting away. That's my goal. What do you make at the top of the division? It's a weird moment right now. Right. Because you got the champ who's out you thought Cain would come back and make some noise then he loses to Francis steep as kind of sitting out, and it's just not clear what what's happening at the top. What do you make of it? I don't make a lot of it. Because again rankings are rankings. You gotta you gotta see what happens bra because he coming back fills too weird situation coming back for title after that they're kings. Can't even so fighting still I heard something he's gonna be w w he did he did a Mexican professional wrestling league. Pretty recently. His coach says he's still going to come back. But you know, I guess it against win. I don't know giving less we've all due respect. Didn't look good. Didn't look on the diet. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. What did these ranking Cain right now? Is his ranking right now as we speak is eighty is one below you. So yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens. What do you make my training on making? Sure. Everything around me, no doubt about it of Brock because your guy who fought if you beat him. It was good for your career, and he's still kind of floating out there. The either I say a media guy also kind of torn on the one hand, I get it, especially Daniel look for a big pay day. Okay. But it's like I'm just looking for the top of these divisions to move. And you got something going on lightweight to where you just can't get the top guys in motion. I dunno create some problems, you know. Yeah. I don't really haven't been about though, Brooke thing. I mean, it's all that. He. Yeah. Special rights doesn't Brock frog Brock that Brock this. But to me to me, it's to me is nothing special commutes big bigeye, you Bank that shit that especially about of course, we'll be watching community brought when their fight, but am I over Jask about the absolutely not? I wouldn't take what? Yeah. But then again, I would watch. I mean, it is going to be, you know, you never know you never know. What's gonna happen? That certainly don't he is as you mentioned, you know, at thirty nine years old you've had mazing career longevity. I'll start as I mentioned you've seen it all really ever made through. What's most important Evelyn's? I suspected answer to this question is going to be as long as you're feeling good. The answer is we'll just keep competing. But have you thought about I mean, look, I think this fair to say you probably closer to the end of your career than the beginning. You've been fighting for twenty plus years. Have you thought about what the next chapter is? I. Is that a lot of firehouse or halfway in? You let's fighting because back in the day like six five year I'd ever two months and even from crazy periods through six points in three months span. So now, it's like five year or dress? You're staying getting better gas. I don't know. It's it's it's it is less probably going to be another two years free as max. That five six seven five four five six seven fights. And then I'm gonna retire. I guess. But you feel pretty good though. Right. I'm one hundred. But I have to say that I'm doing a lot. I'm doing a lot to be healthy to sales. So it's a lot of a lot of nutrition them a lot of massage my or small special keeps me keeps me going. So do dry needling also mazing mazing miss that new methods since years doing that. So I'm doing a lot on recovery. And if I compare that to my early twenties, and then they have to do a lot of recovery back then. But now, I do and as long as you recover Ryan gray that can make my ten fifteen hours. We training. Like I early twenties. So that's that is kind of like the thing you if you're doing recovery if you're putting in the work. Yeah. Keep going, and then I guess we'll end on this. And I appreciate your time Alistair one thing that I've noticed you had JD have this big resurgence this past year this last few fights I have noticed that a lot of guys at heavyweight will have moments in their career with a surge. And then they fall then they surge again, and it'll fall again, then they surge again. So you tell me what is it about heavyweight were guys can have these like second or third acts where people write them off. And then they come surging right back. Jay, yes is war being fighting for for a long time now and your career. Of course, you're gonna have circumstance working get you at some point in your your life, and you and you go for it. And then you figure it out and you come back you get back in the winning column. But. Battiston? He's bells of Cain were remaining came back from that. He's been coming back a couple of times. I think when when applied keeps coming back that tells something about the character, just I guess, I guess he's just like me we love to fight game or stub don't give up. Fair enough. All right. Well, we can't wait for it. You have see on ESPN plus seven this'll be April twentieth in Saint Petersburg Russia. We take on Alexia Linic in the main event all-star. Thank you so much for your time. Looking forward to your next fight, and you to look and thank you so much. Hello. It's me Ashley carbon. I'm Caitlyn Tiffany. And we are the host of the virgin podcast. Why'd you push that button. It's a show that hard weird occasionally dumb questions about how tiny tech decisions impact, your socialites. So we're asking questions like how do you choose your skin tone emoji? And why do you do your tweets every episode? We talked to users and experts to get to the bottom of these questions that we're confronted with every day. 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Roy Jones Jr. Talks 'Hammers and Nails' Fight With Mike Tyson, Still Open to Anderson Silva Fight

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

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Roy Jones Jr. Talks 'Hammers and Nails' Fight With Mike Tyson, Still Open to Anderson Silva Fight

"You're listening to Fox media PODCAST Network all right. This man needs no introduction in fact is getting ready to fight Mike Tyson on September twelfth in an exhibition match and Carson California I cannot believe we are saying these words and having this conversation right, but I am so fired up for this fight I can't even begin to tell you. How are you awesome and anybody WHO's not? Five out of their mind. Damning. You gotta be out of your mind. Can you too little? Most entertaining solo database of boxing in the issue sport entering at the same time with three eight apart and not be excited. I have to know. How did this come together I know that you had been talking about maybe fighting Mike for a little while now, but now that it's come together in Penn is gone to paper, and this thing is happening. How did it come together? Called me told me they've been thinking about My will come out Faisal better than we got. You've got one two because travel the people, but it just keeps going box motives boxing manages. Box in the business boxing lawyers. We don't want to outside of boxing. Day You get your money. Mike is one. A bike is what they deserve the pay by us in the world, so when she take care to every tally, do somebody else. They bring us so we feel like you on person that we could do a whip. WHO WON'T HAVE TO BRING disappeared truth. I want to do academically title anyway, so says I wanted to fight him at the beginning of we jam. He outboxed Come back in. He didn't want to get back in a box at a time. I will hit moved on. Now the opportunities presented itself. How could turn a deaf? It will how it goes. When, you got Kobe. All. Pretty much on lockdown candidate do watch season some players some that. I just read the things Warner, eight five or eight players tested positive so those teams was a problem with stopping admitted to would save sport than once. What went on us to fighting? that would whatever which doesn't necessarily or but thank what they've been saying so to get a sport where you're GONNA have to. Guys. Shattering one night. Entertain the whole world. How did you say? How refreshing is that knowing that? Even this point in your in your combat sports career because I? Know you're doing with with island fights. You've dabbled in May as well, but you mentioned not having promoters boxing people involved as you guys putting this fight together and making it happen. How refreshing that especially in this day and age and what we've seen in boxing over the last several years, just have to guys that want to fight and you guys just get it done without much of an issue. Super refreshing to me super refreshing. It's a beautiful thing and you guys are both getting taken care, and that makes it even better, but when when you got the call that this was a this was an option for you. How did you react to that knowing that all these years later, you wanted this fight so long ago. Now you get to actually have like. How did you react to the news of like man? This is really happening that side but I don't want. That will get to his death contest fool! The fool paperwork done. In about two weeks ago. That full work done now. Yes now guess. So. This isn't an exhibition bowed so for those who? Don't really know what that means like. Some people look at it as like Oh. These guys are GonNa Throw Hammers, and then the other the other side of the equation, not just an exhibition fight. Like how would you define what this fight is going to be all about? And and how it's GonNa play on the rare theme. Right throws a hammer. He don't have throw him out, but a hammer, so you but hey, bob prepared to deal with a hammer coming at you and if I am comes at me, throw a nail bag, so he throws his hammer. I'm going to try to nail him. How fired up, are you for this? On a scale of one to ten from a competitive standpoint, hammers and nails I'm on twitter. Hammers and nails that could be the poster right there. I saw the post already, but that could be the new cameras. This is exciting stuff. I can't believe we're talking about this. Can you believe this like if I if you if I said five years ago that you're GonNa Fight Mike Tyson and twenty twenty hindsight. Have answered that a responded to that we. Responded you had told me in nineteen, Eighty, eight thousand become champ. I said no way so for those who are on the fence about this fight. Roy and I don't know why people would be on the fence. God's. Cheer. This is this is amazing. I can't believe this is happening, so everything worked out great for you on this. Get Out to get in a chair In terms of your boxing career, you're coming back in fighting. Mike Tyson huge. This is a one time only thing for you or Me Unless it will go is competitive I'll try it again if you want to go. That's why hell. Out, even the guy one time they don't give them a shot. Beckett he was end, and it's a good competitive fight I mean. Is, easing in the, why do it again, but is a competitive by? Be and it works out good and nobody seriously hurt against to people entertained in what they wore out of it. Why would you not try to get? With the of is not that good, not always tack. Just if it's a competitive is just mike or nobody else, or is there somebody else that perhaps could Pique your interest in getting back and doing this once again? All it Mike. Out think can payment up to become is to haul. right now. Only thing pushing me right now. It debate that not. Kill and opinion shapes us a by I will get cable so dyke kill myself or survived twenty at me I'm did meet that. Push me give a morning and do what I gotTA. Do My Buddies d TAT right now from work, but to go again because I know that if I don't I'm a trump mini. People made me feel that way. But they might wait. What are they going to me? I mean get lucky to tonight gas. There's no key. Before so as anybody else, don't put a bit in my heart this. Is a threat. This is not blow up. This makes me get up and go. Where would you put your conditioning level? At this point? I know we're like seven weeks away from this fight, but we've seen all the photos of Mike. He's dropped all that way. Read and like many think he's in the best physical condition of his life right now heading into this fight. Where would you put your physical conditioning? At this point? He looked like it in close to the second best fiscal then within these next seven weeks. I will be in the best physical condition to Akhenaten. While took, so is all. So. What's like a typical day day by day? Process for you to to get ready for this fight like you said you wake up early and you're getting the motions. But what else are you doing to to get this from physical sense or in the gym everyday? I'm doing no machines scenes dump to give my Cardillo There'd be careful knees now Zona ruin them. But I can't be best. Walk I on my career out of my light thousand sacrifice basketball for boxing minutes. Can you believe that I came saying that? I'm not paying no basketball after by soccer preserved my knees. Can you believe that? Comes out of my mouth. I'm not no zero. Basketball, which Rachel no basketball he got, keep it. He got a with it. How big of a sacrifice that for you right now? There's huge, says the biggest sacrifice. Made Box, no basketball I can dream of a day of or. Fighting than say acting. Be Basketball that they'll. Never. now. But if I don't my knees, GonNa be hurting. That can't get away gotta be. Designed, Guy, you want get. You remember the last time. He took this much time away from the court. I know did. So. This is a big sacrifice. Rio this this jazzy is. Do you play every day while three at least three times a week at least three times a week, so. Basketball so you're going to have a little bit of. A little bit of hunger in you to to to make Mike pay and then get back on the basketball court a couple of days after that. I have to tell you, Roy. You broke a lot of I'm in Massachusetts. You broke a Lotta hearts several years ago. when you fought Ruis and you beat him. That was a that was a heartbreaking day for the Massachusetts. Natives understand. I don't do them to break Give entertainment at to make history I want is just make history with none against worries, none against injuries, fans, the gauze would i. who except in a fight I would never had a chance to do so due to break, ause I to try to entertain people and to history Dan firelight. This files that people. Will work can't be disguised to be. That was perfect. Go desperate like I like to be the underdog. Can't himself so it wasn't nothing personal. Guess, General Generalize that the President Says Massachusetts that the president's nobody that wouldn't trying to record. Entertainment and it just see that when God is for you. I was a hotshot. Twenty year old kid, who, in that fight happened so there's one heart. You didn't break that night and I don't think I've ever said this to anybody. Even my friends, who is watching it I. Actually Bet on you fight, and you may meet somebody even though you broke a lot of my friends. Hearts in break mine at the end of the day because you wanted me a couple of bucks when they lifted his interview, you they're. Reds are going to be so bad so. We're seven weeks away from this fight. You're getting ready. What's? GonNa ask for prediction, but because it's an exhibition by we don't know what's GonNa Happen Hammer nails like you said, but what can fans expect on September twelfth when you guys get in there and and throw hands at each other. I'm excited for it to me. Expected Mike, Michael! Be Dangerous I two. Maybe three rows. Even a may be deadly accident the whole night, but to me is the most phone will. Rows will be around one two three. My best rugby rounds six seven and eight so probably be very interesting, because if he can carry his low one, two, three, four five. He'll get the advantage whatever I can take. Seventy eight in down around four five to I. Have the advantage, so we'll see what happens. Do you have to like watch tape of Michael? Do you watch like SPA videos? Do you go back and watch any of his old fights or do you just? Do you just have that knowledge that you've seen from him? Over the years being a boxing I, being in the sport, being a champion, you've seen Mike fight a million times at this point. Not Stealing your home nodule face, cheesecake, W homeboy get treated legs arena fight. You got hall once you know what you're up against because you'RE GONNA. Get dragged on the island and not be available. House the Movement right now you've been known for your movement. You're defense. You're dodging. Making people miss because people get those arms tired. They swing at you, and and you just maneuver out of the way in such a spectacular way. Hey, how's the movement right now? It's coming back. Really coming back. So and they say it's like riding a bike. Would you agree with that or on a percents? What's been? What's been the best part about this for you just to say? The guy left me and my. With opportunity to do people thought we'd do. It knocked onto To have a big fight in the social media error. How what openness? I do want to ask you about about island fights because you know you've been a big part of that and getting into the mixed martial arts, world is with this covert era. Is there any plans on getting an event back on the books when you guys thinking on that? Right now we think as September. Things will be the best time and we'll get. What happens in November was deadly because they're standing expecting the second wave cove in November. So we get get one septum. It may be Cam because. We gabby pitched down again November December if that happens. And you guys are making some waves because we've seen a lot of your fighters. Get the call up to the UFC these days. So how does that make you feel getting into the sport and providing these guys with a platform to get those life changing opportunities? That's the biggest part of me to give guys a platform to give the opportunity. To get bit chance at the base thing for me. My thing is got me died. Use Me as instrument. They played his music through. May Be I can help. I think that's always a my things the other people more so them myself. There are some other guys on the roster that you feel are going to get that. Call sooner rather than later that stick out to you. There few. daynet name because I'm do names very well, but they are a couple of guys who are not going to get the causes attack. That's a great thing and those people Roy who who say that boxing has been struggling with MMA. I feel like boxing is a really great place right now. We've seen some of the big heavyweight fights, and we've seen the numbers of those who do and the gates that they're doing so when people say that I just don't agree with it. That boxing is being suffocated by MMA right now. What is your? What is your thoughts on that? As you're getting ready to come back and compete yourself, was it? Media outlets. I was GONNA. Help us. His box event, so they will put together. Good box events I'm sure Dana White has no problem with have modem. He's audited. His hand mode does one. Of. The outlets would love to have things to talk about with the intimate outlets, but they deal in combat sports. Boxing May Combat Sports to the combustible. They wanted to use you gotta have the are destined. Had the nerve Audi right conversation to be able to size Promote Boxing make it biggest probably have been boxing. Make by combat. So why will one that skirts the other batch? The article happy jeopardy so better boxing. The makes us and we get to get to the top people always WanNa see clancy will happen whether it's a boxing match or elements you by people talk about silver box match for years even before the middle of the. We would walk without ed unlike that. Has Professional boxing spirits? May granted. So. This is much global competitive fight as best being older, because now because he has experience is much easier to. At a young Tagore original, he doing older wardrobe with he may have a chance at didn't live because much older than that. But that's a big bit, and it would have been a big event and happen back the. Mike Show you now. Never say no. Opportunity may come. Notes, so that fight with Anderson Silva is still somewhat on the table. If the numbers and everything falls into place perfectly, because he's a great friend of mine, he's a good person. Does speak English, but he always wanted to make a fight. They just not allowed opportunity to do it or the right time to do. So because we both gave hours, we have got opting will adopt. The comes along I'm sure that may be one of the other entertain the that might entertain because I gave them. My word of advocating became I would have been cool after this fight he could get. Lots of be excited about and I'll tell you what you made. Some great points about getting boxers onto these outlets and having these conversations when Dean tax you and says that Roy Jones junior is ready to talk to you now you get on skype and you talk to that man right now, and that is what happened here I. Appreciate the very much I know you're a very busy man I'm really looking forward to this on September Twelfth Royal, Junior, taking on Mike Tyson. This is unbelievable, Roy, thank you for the time I appreciate it very much. Thank you member of. You're listening to the VOX media podcast network.

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Jake Paul Announces His Next Fight & Gets Real About His Future

No Jumper

1:03:38 hr | 1 year ago

Jake Paul Announces His Next Fight & Gets Real About His Future

"No Jumper coolest podcasts in the world. I'm here with J. Paul. Jake how're you doing. I'm doing good. How are you guys are finally getting on here? We've known each other talked about it for a while but yeah we are here. We are finally you. Were just telling me off camera that you have a fight to announce that we're actually going to holding this podcast until tell the house time excited about. Oh who fucking fighting. I'm fighting a guy by the name of give. Oh Wow so. That's been years in the making right. Yeah Yeah Yeah so like a lot of people don't know who he is so it's my job to like explain who he is okay to people get excited about the fight. I mean the way to conceptualize houses be like KFI's boy best friend as I say and it's kind of a stepping stone so Kassai agreed that if I beat Gabe than he will fight me after. So that's why I'm doing it. So gave his undefeated. He's to know he had to fight on the UNDERCARD Under cards of both of our both of like the last YouTube fights and He has all case is fan base by them so he's got that he's got that strong. UK Fan base. Wow but He and I'm I'm an act enacted. Cow Is there anything any kind of personal animosity between you and him. A to what extent you know K.. Assign Logan really truly hated each other before the fight. Yeah is there anything building up to this. Yeah no so I think I think there's beef that's like Kinda become real but like I didn't know who who was until He came up to me at the challenge games. The event that my brother and I threw and he came came up to me and he's like we should fight we fight and I'll just like yeah. Yeah like savvy cool to world is like we should fight if that makes sense for both of US financial. Exactly it's weird it's weird is for and I didn't. I didn't really know what he was. And my brother came up. My brother knew he was he was like yeah. Yeah that'd be a sick fight between you guys and I go home and I was like Oh. He had a fight before it was on the same card. We fought on the same night. But I just didn't know I just didn't pay attention to those other fights. I kind of lost my train. Thought you're talking about him confronted anyone. That's right that's what I figured. Figured out like who he was and and from there he just talked should online but like I don't I don't know the kid I've never watched videos like sure. He's a nice kid did But he made. He made a mistake by like talking shit like wanting to fight me because he's he's smaller than me he's weighs less than me's Autho as as athletic. But somehow like I'm I what's crazy about it is like the way it's position now and like what you see like online. I'm the underdog which is weird like He. He asked people think he is going to beat me in like truly truly believe it. So it's like before my last like I I wasn't like how is the top dog and now on the NAM the technically the underdog which is which is why it's weird. What's really motivating you in terms of this one because we sort of seen this the whole thing play out with Logan in terms of I felt like he wanted to do some sort of like image repair? Just give himself something new. He needed something to make people reimagined who he was as an entertainer. Yeah I think yeah yeah I think I mean. I think that's partially what is for me. I think I got burnt out. There was a period. Where like I was filming every single day for two years and I was like? This isn't fun for me anymore. Like I don't WanNa do this anymore. The fight stuff like just popped in front of our faces and we were like. Oh this makes sense. This is something we enjoy. We and we can make a lot of a lot of money here so it checked all the boxes and for me like like I kind of found myself as a person when I put down the blog camera like that character that I was like portraying for two years of being like a loud obnoxious asshole off and the like to get more and more views and as soon as I put down the camera and started to live like a real life and like just train every single L. Day and like not half the film like found myself as a person and I and I grew up over over the past like however like eighteen months has been since the since I I fought and That has been super refreshing to be able to to not be like sucked into the youtube world. Where like you just want more and you try you try and get more views? And it's like a such unhealthy thing that's like a never ending cycle. And you see a Lotta youtubers go through it and so for me like that initially was something that I that I love and I didn't realize it till later that you know it was actually finding myself kind of through fighting which is cool. Because it's weird when you're youtuber like with with your stuff in particular it's like I kind of saw the direction you're going where you're content sort of kept getting more more and more like kid friendly and like you know sort of aimed specifically at a younger audience interesting because it's like if you just WanNa follow what's getting views and went to making you money then you go in a certain direction but that direction might not necessarily be who you are as a person or who you changing into his person but because you know it's very hard to like separate like who the real view is and who the version of you that you're using to market yourself is you know it's like it's it's viewed the it's hard to separate you know and and and it's like you're like fuck in the mind and it was a it was like a struggle for me you know 'cause like I am like was a sword that came back to cut the portrayed myself online certain way like that's not who I was in real life so like the world knows me as this the person who I'm not and now and now I don't WanNa do that anymore like I don't WanNa be that person anymore like it's time to grow oh up in like be myself but but I'm almost now behind the eight ball because I got all my attention like views in like medium press in like people the general public knows me for this and now it's like okay I'm done like I don't WanNa be kid friendly any more time to grow up be myself like start swearing on camera that was like such a like. I didn't even think I could do that. And so here I am now as a twenty two year old bathroom. Twenty-three like being myself I self. And it's like this weird thing where like half the half of the Internet hates me for for someone. I'm not an half. The Internet. Loves me for someone. I'm not so I'm like in this like weird. Parallel of like switching fan. Base is growing up like gaining new fans. Some of my most loyal fans are like. You're not the same like we like the old. I'm like that wasn't me. Sorry but like this is who I am and it's time to be myself in like not do any more authentic shit for views right and what better away then till I you know. Boxing is kind of thing that if you can get in the ring and do that then people are just going to respect that like e with with Logan taking the last fight in a Lotta ways. It doesn't doesn't matter because he did all of the training and everything and people I think that is a very powerful thing in terms of making people reconsider who you might be because they know the you went ahead and trained for something. The average person just wouldn't take on you have to be serious about this. We want to go for it. Yeah you can't you can't you can't play boxing and that's I I think that's all part of it. I think it's a good way to kind of like show who I am really as a person. Because there's GonNa be a lot of attention attention and light and like media on this upcoming fight and when I beat give and then go to fight chaos. I am Kinda able to explain to the world like the what I kind of just explain to you. I'm just different now like I'm just I'm older grown up a more mature that's Kinda like that's that's why I think it's cool cool and found a way to do something that I love. Which is which boxing I love it? It's fun and I don't have to be picking up the camera every single day to put on like a some sort of bullshit show right okay. J. Paul is this. PODCAST is sponsored by Eagle Energy. Eagle energy is a caffeine inhaler. Pen I swear to God. These things are a lifesaver. They're available available at my Eagle Dot Energy. Use Promo Code No Jabber twenty two. Then you can actually get twenty two percent off. These things are way better than a cup of coffee or energy drink or anything like that caffeine inhaler pen. I swear to God you're going to let it back to the content. How scared of you are are you of losing not? I'm not scared you know like doesn't wear your consciousness shit now and I think the rea the reason why is because I literally have done and am doing every single thing possible to get the W. so you know There's not gonna be like a moment where like I'm walking. I'm walking into the rain. I'm like damn wish I would have trained harder that one practice or wish. I wouldn't have done that that one day. You know. I'm training to the point. Where like I have to? I have to pull myself back and not overtrained because there's a advil overtraining. He's like a real feeling when you realize like Oh shit I really need to like take a day or two off because I've done so much this week exactly. Yeah and and and you know like put the work in you know and like to me losing just like non option. I think I spoke to my brother like after the fight and he's like I've taken so many elves in like bounce back from it so like maybe there was a thought in my head. Where if I took an L. in this fight then I would just be able to bounce back from and a and like be fine and to me I don't have that mindset like to me it's like it's like if you lose it's the end of the world almost were so Yeah just I'm not scared of it. I know it's a possibility as boxing. Anything can happen. I'm not ignorant to that But if I do everything possible. Awesome train as hard as possible to get the best best coach. Best people around me than Than it's really up to me to finish finish the job visit like when you look at the lifestyle that you could be living like when you're vlogger. It's it's very like self-indulgent thing we just making this movie about yourself every day and I think it kind of you know it doesn't incentivize to be serious really about your life. It doesn't there's no reason not to just sorta like party and bullshit and just hang out not you know what is the incentive like it sort of creates a version yourself. Maybe not that admirable in comparison to the boxing thing. Yeah no you're right you wake up every day when you're log into your like what's the most fun thing I can do today. What to look fun not actually? I want to sit on the couch but for this I gotta go out and I gotTa do this toxic like I like I feel I feel bad for anyone who has to like go through that and then realize after like what the what they just did because it's like a mental fuck but boxing's like super healthy like you know you have to be focused you you can't be partying you can't really. You're not even really we're supposed to be having sex with girls like once a week or two. Yeah it's it's a thing like I've I've had sex the night before sparring and like you you if you don't like your legs are like shaking really takes away like you're like power I don't I don't understand the science behind it but it's a real thing so I feel like I offer at the same with or without ages in Santa my body. It's so you're a god but I've also never really turned into the boxing. Once you get punched in the head real so so I can. I can have sex the night before a practice like a boxing in practice where we're just punching the bag doing mitts pushups whatever running. That's fine but I think it has to do with like once you get hit in ahead and like your body's fight or flight mode and then you don't have any testosterone right and then something to do with that but the real thing fuck and it's crazy crazy that makes sense. I think it's going to be beautiful thing. What does Tanto about the word at all? I don't think she like she like even even went. Logan was getting the ring. She was just like nervous and scared and like had anxiety while the girls are like those types. But I think she's like go. Get your bag like you're so focused like like I'm proud of you and it but it sucks 'cause like we we would hang out so much more but I'm like training twice a day you know and it just I can't go to sleep. GotTa Get your arrests. So you can't really have distractions and it's hard to wash it like you could just go over over. Somebody's house and hang out. You're thinking about sleeping and eating and exactly it's such A. That's why I have such respect for athletes in general. It's like you have to sacrifice so fucking much to to be at the top of the game and it's like it's a lot like you said like you don't have a life. Thank you feel like this is like when you're trying to verify you're really not fight camp. Why would you not win? This fight. Jan January thirtieth in Miami Super Superbowl Weekend January thirtieth in one month. And Yeah Holy Shit. So you've been in training camp for this yet. I did Logan's whole training camp. Oh with them and then now now. Now I've been doing my own cam so I've been training for Fucking A. Longtime so you've known about this for a few months no no. I was just training because I knew I was going to fight somebody and then obviously just made the most sense. I did a poll. Actually so I did a poll so a lot of people online like Jake's ducking this guy he won't he's scared to fight Gabe. He's scared to fight. Gabe and I did a poll to see like okay. Who Does my audience want me to fight like? Who's going to get the most votes votes right? Because I wanted to fight the person who got the most votes so put out a poll. It gets a million votes and the majority were forgive. Okay so I was. It's like I'm going to fight this kid and then from there on just like work was working on the deal behind the scenes to to get it done But the bottom line is not like for anyone out there the things I was ducking him like I cannot wait to get my hands on this kid. What made him the most appealing feeling fight? Though because like when you look at Logan Kassai they're both fucking huge for you. You're finding somebody that's a bit smaller than you think. He's like an animal like people think he's like like is when he fights. He has a lot of energy and like he comes forward and he's like aggressive and so people like take that people don't understand boxing and they're like Oh my God auty such. He's so good he's so good And and and and he's been training with KFI and their friends and like he's undefeated as well so he's just beat up to bummy kids and they're the only fought for like a couple rounds but was important to you because you ultimately want to avenge the Paul. That's that's what it is like a half the beat Kissi and it's like I became his brother Dougie And Low in case I beat my brother and Saddam kiss is best friend or one of his best friends and I'm coming for KFI. And it's like I like I. I have to say that there's like no option like that's like the ultimate fight. That's out there right now. Like that's what I think everyone would would want to see and Logan Logan said himself. And you know I believe it too and not my own horn. But I'm just a better boxer than Logan and and just more technically sound and I understand the sport more his logan over the idea of fighting any else on like a real stage. I think he wants to do. MMA really because we have a wrestling background right and and a little bit of Jujitsu and so he. That's what he wants to do. He wants get a UFC fight or some some crazy shit like that. I mean Dana Weather said positive things about him. SORTA right yeah recently. So after the last oh he could actually fight like Joe road very positive about like potential. Yeah so I mean I think it's like I think could definitely happen. I mean I think it's something that at Logan like to me what it seems like as low in once like it just something that he needs to do almost like a bucket list type of thing right more. So how much do you think it hurt Logan and when he lost Because it's it's interesting. It's like he gets all the notoriety he gets all the money. He goes through the whole thing. He doesn't really get fucked up. It's not like the Fuzi to fireworks faces faces all fucked up the only thing he doesn't get as he doesn't get his hand raised in the rain. And that's kind of the compensation and it sucks. Because he got the two points taken away right and so even more controversial more. I think and that's why to him. It's like he lost You know quote unquote but he still gets ninety nine percent of the positive they from the fight. It's just the fact that he doesn't get to say he wants. Yeah I mean I don't think it's I think it affected him for like the first like week US upset upset you know like he was pissed off and like he has a big ego. Obviously but again it's like he literally lost in the best possible way like there's no no better way to lose like you said like didn't get fucked up technically would have one of the two points taken away. So it's like did he lose. He made a bunch of money would you. You have wanted to fight foods or two. If he had won I would have been so good. Yeah me versus food to fucking fucked them up even worse site just says fan I would love to see Jake Paul versus I wanNA fight all youtubers man like. I think it's fun. I think it's like it's great. It's great business business great marketing. It's like it's exciting. It's different like the Internet. So boring I was just talking about this like the Internet so like dry. I feel like it's just like all the same shea always like like like the video when like mgk comes up to you and like slaps your thing. This is exciting. I was like this is cool like some like like this is cool row. It goes down in the rap world a little bit of fun. That's what I'm saying like. We like the Internet side of Shit. Like more fucking can spunk. Man Like I think I think it's part of it's fighting like it's it's exciting so I wanNA fight a lot of people but definitely in case is number one on the Hitless Adam. Solid wasn't real considered. He is like little right away. It's true the slim has friends slim. Yeah they they just keep on running their mouths but it's like like they. They need like prove themselves more. You know they need to go. They need to climb the ladder right. Is it weird with the funny thing. Because it's like you're just a walking talking clout opportunity for other youtube. They were already using you for fucking Click Bay last few years but then with a fighting thing now you can say I wanNA fight. He's obviously not going to happen. From Ninety nine. One point nine percent of the people who say it's just you're an opportunity for people to talk about. You must've been weird to get used to that Yes we're at end like it also it it just like it doesn't suck but it's just like I do like everyone's doing it like Komo created more creative way or interested or shocked when it's it's like normally somebody saying they want to fight you is really going to stand out to you and you're saying no added to the list. Yeah as he had and that's what it is is like if it even with give it's like I procured the fight deal and like made it all happen and like I was sitting there with disown like they WanNa meet if I give but I could have fought anybody and it would just it would be just as big of an event and so I'm not going to give handing him so much clout and handing them a bag of money. He probably would not build otherwise exactly and it's just it's an interesting position to be in but I'm I guess I'm like I'm I'm thankful that I'm able to be in that position like grateful and it's cool but does money govern a lot of the decision making that you do because I know you're probably making a shitload of mind doing brand deals and Youtube and everything the whole merged merge thing it's like. I'm I'm sure that the check for during the box thing is good but at the same time like would it make more sense for you to focus on Youtube and does it just not appeal to you to the extent that you you just like fuck it. Yeah it's interesting question. I think in the in the part of in the early part of my career like a lot of my decision making was based off of like Yelich. Yeah like which set. Where am I going to get the most money out of and From me now more so asking myself the question like where do I see myself vibe. What do I actually like to do? And you know is this fun and is this something I can see myself doing for a long time. which like the fighting thing like is yes so to all of that And obviously like I'm a business person at the end of the day the like. Let's be real like there's a lot of fucking money to be made in infighting I look at someone like like not to talk shit like like Andy Ruiz for example who just fought Anthony Joshua for those who don't know like one of the best best heavyweights out there. And he's boy fuck with him like Cool Guy Nice guy but he had two hundred thousand followers on instagram and he who is making like five million dollars a fight so it's like there's so much room to come in and innovate in in the boxing space. That's what excites me like. Seeing a space that is so old has a set way of doing things and then you have these people. Well who a lot of us in this room haven't really heard of or are making more money than you and I sitting at this table. Just because they go into the ring hanging in and literally get five million dollars for like how like forty minutes of their time. It's kind of crazy to me. It's like it's exciting to be venturing into that into that business. I mean the richest lead of all time. Is Floyd Mayweather right. So right and obviously like I'll never be at the highest S. level professional boxing. Because these people have been doing they're alive. I think there's a huge business play and again if you take away everything that Jake Paul does like like where I like. What what I started off as entrepeneurship so you know The it's exciting and I think there's a huge business in in like celebrities and influencers fighting. I think I think we're just scratching the surface. I think everyone's GonNa WanNa start to do it because of the money that's their U2 you too isn't paying as much the democratizing spoke and people like you know there's so much there's so much competition out there for brand deals like you see people with who just got a million followers and have crazy engagement. They don't have any money. So they're undercutting the market and taking so much less money brand deals and it screws up the market for the bigger people and it just like it's It's it's becoming harder to monetize in the space. Does it appeal to you that you get to just sort of with the Bison you get started just live your life whereas when you're dating Erica and shit was like your disorder constantly using your relationship for Click Bait and that's gotTa take stall on your relationship as well as yourself. He added one hundred percent percent like fan. Like when fans get involved in your relationship when press like when you are relying on someone else else like being your content and like becomes like big like mixed like confusing. What's real and what's exactly and you you don't know so it's so unhealthy? So yeah there's I mean like the boxing should have been able to like find myself as a as a person like And not have to live like a fake fucking life right which you know there. There's parts of my blogs that were real. You know like their storylines that were real but but then it would be like all right. We don't have shit film today. Like what are we gonNa do and your shit got so bad that you got like all team around you. That's helping sort of make this shit happens. Happen coming up with ideas and stuff and that's a lot of pressure because you just wake up and you're not in the mood to do this shit and you don't really have a choice because you got all those employees with the Halladay therefore if you're filming something right yeah it was a it was definitely a lot of pressure and and it got harder and harder to keep up with because like the empire was growing and growing and growing and then you just get so many so many fuck in like problems arise and that's the other thing is like with like like I'm literally like four four lawsuits right now. I WANNA say from different blogs logging. What is it like people that gets in the background of the fucking property or something? Yeah exactly like background. I'm not exactly a lot. I don't think I'm allowed to talk about it but Like like just stupid shit. That people just seen opportunity to make money because as of potential like harm that they went through or some shit. And it's like with boxing. Don't have any of that. They no one can say shit assuming because I'm training in my fucking backyard when you think back on that like iconic scene with jumping around on top of that fucking news van and stuff like like that was very much you putting yourself into this very specific role of being like no. I'M GONNA be the troll the troublemaker like rambunctious kid like I'm GonNa play okay. This roll up so much. Yeah and I'M GONNA make a lot of people fucking hate me but I'm GonNa make my way more famous like does that outlook on life field completely foreign. Yeah yeah no if if feels foreign for sure I guess that's situations nations like different like that situation to me like it was like exactly what you're saying like I just thought it was hilarious. I'm going to be an asshole and like I like no. No one's ever fucked around on the news before and like I thought it was funny and I portrayed myself in like a stupid way But yeah like now it seems yeah now. I get seem so like I wouldn't do that now. I couldn't imagine doing that now. Like the crazy thing is that there might might've been a different reaction if it was like jay-paul eighteen with a million subscribers doing some shit like that versus J. Paul a couple of years later with a huge platform and now all of a sudden. You have some people looking at you from a different perspective where it's like you're all of a sudden you're con going way beyond your fan base changes ages like how your shit is going to be received right. Yeah Yeah you have to be more careful you know like at the start of your career you can do whatever you get away with what it's like to get like Blah suits are negative publicity or whatever so you're just if anything you're trying to bait people into talking talking about you know if you could get news for anything. Yeah Yeah it's interesting to think about this shift like when does it shift to like. Oh Shit now I gotta like not do stupid Shit. Yeah right yeah but you know fuck like there's no blueprint to this world and then that's that's why it's like fucking crazy like I feel like we're all just figuring it out as we go like especially with like social people on social media like you know like it's such a a new space you know you look at you'll get so many other industries like if you WANNA be a singer it's like there's a fucking model for that and there's like so many companies now that'll be do that and you signed to a label and you work writers and you go to the studio and you drop a project you market yourself and obviously there's more to that but with social media it's like what like there's not really like a set formula which is why you see people like myself fighting people like doing this doing that like it's Kinda it's it's interesting I think we'll start to see their become like a more set way to do things right now all innovation do you think you two. Are you feeling when you see like a will Smith make his appearance on the platform or is that feel authentic. Because it's like you're clearly kind of just is doing this to revive your career where people who are making youtube videos with no budget at one point and now you're somebody coming in the game with a big old team helping you create this content. Strike you as odd so for me like specifically with that example will Smith. I thought he did a great job at it at like. I think I think his he'd like actually took the time like learn how to do it and make good content on the platform. Which is why I don't like I don't mind Kudos to him at? I think it's smart Super Smart and obviously youtube loves. That's the thing that I don't like is like you to to favor like will favor will smith over the creators that have been fucking hustling on their platform for years and years and years. Like will smith posts a video. Trending did was trending Wilson Video. The kid in fucking Iowa who's pain his mom's fucking hospital bills like they're not showing him any fucking love you know I mean so. That's the part I don't like but I thought we did a good job. I think there's other celebrities though like I don't even know they just have fallen flat But who've come onto the platform man like not made good to content and it's failed even worse so it's it's a it's a platform yeah You can't just come in and like fuck around like people think. Oh you're youtuber like you wake up every day and you just film a fucking video and then posted and you make a Shitload of money in your millionaire like. It's so so much harder than that so much more thorough than that must feel so like overwhelming. When you go out and do a video and then you get a fucking lawsuit about it and it costs you ten times as much as you could have made from literally legal like dealing with legal is like the worst fucking? It's like it's like my worst nightmare right. It's like you have has to do our phone call like every like almost every day. We'll just talk about the stupidest shit and like and while you're on that phone call you're paying like that. Our phone call just cost you a thousand dollars because each lawyer on that phone call is four hundred fifty dollars an hour and that like it's just the most it's the it's the craziest like is the craziest thing but for me. It's about setting the precedent of like. Oh you want to sue me. I'm not just going to roll over and give you money like I'm fighting. Yeah like I'm not I don't want to just go away. I'm fighting this case and like and you're GONNA pay for my legal legal fees so that's my mindset. I didn't do anything fucking wrong. Like you're just. This is a cry for money and fuck you. I'm fighting the versus just being like. Oh Yeah here's like ten K to be quiet or fifty quiet like that's not that's not my mindset that makes it more attractive to just stay in the crib and does not go out really and not fuck with people because it doesn't it start to feel like Oh when I go to the club some shit my have. Yeah when I go out and from log on the streets and Shit might happen so stay away from that. Yeah Yeah hundred percent. That's like I have A. I have a target on my back. Like just in general like Jake Paul Paul. That name has become like so like. I don't even know how to describe. It is definitely a big target and people see money and like I don't I don't like to. I don't like to go like in public in just like fuck around anymore. which is crazy because he gets so point where like the first original videos were just like going around in public like messing around like hanging with strangers hanging with my small amount of fans that would recognize me and now it's like I can't not even I can't even go film anything I can't I can't prank people? I can't do anything because they're all your jake. Paul I saw you in Santa went to target and it was out of control and then me and my girl wants to target cold days later nobody saw service and I was like. We're in a good spot. It's like a good nice Yeah we also went to cut. Es target that those like nobody add so yeah now at one we went to let one it was in Orland hills fucking targets again liberal targets mall in general if you just WanNa it causes seen the malls where it's going down right. Yeah Def the other one right by my house like it's like sometimes I forget like at the end of the day. I'm just like a fucking kid from Ohio and I guess I. I don't feel like like a celebrity. Like it's weird like like I know on celebrity and like have followers. But but I don't feel like one like in saying that in the least Dushi way possible and you don't want to be you know maybe it's not want to set it like it's weird like will I go to the mall all like outlive. Forget that like Oh shit like dressed like the dumb ass and like I have to engage with people right now and I'm like tired like don't want like I'm just looked like a bomb and like doc I forget sometimes like you know because I still feel like that like regular kid from Ohio. Who just like who just like your average Joe like Gave like L. and it's weird because it's like if you do manage to keep your hoodie up and your sunglasses on and Don get recognized and you're chilling but as soon as like one or two people figure it out then it could just be. We really see stars one. 'cause then why are they taking a picture in the middle of the store. Who is your like a spy when you go like when I go to the mall by myself and I'm just sorta like trying to get in there and get out and you got a Hoodie up and you're just trying to like make sure that none of these kids walking by me? Yeah Yeah Weird things that people don't realize I actually the protests on your channel where you're sort of doing the young kid content with many J. Paul on the separate channel. Yeah fellas although smart yeah. It's it's weird like I said like I'm in this place. Where like I have fans like? Who Love Me? See for one thing and it's like how do I transition it's like. Your typical is literally like and I. It's weird that I'm like kind of caught and because I never thought I'd be caught in it but it's literally like your typical Disney star age up process and I'm like in it and it's fucking weird like in. It's difficult to deal with like people like. I don't think people people talk about it enough but it's like all this you're like this kid and you you gotta like fucking grow up and like how do you change your fan base. So it's like I'm trying to give give a little bit of content to that like younger fan base that I do have them like I'm like I'm still on Disney channel. If you flip on Disney like I'll still be there. Sometimes they can from before they still air at least once a day and sorta like come on Disney channel. Like I still gain fans from from that and it's like how do I give them content but then how do I also take like explain Blaine to this older crowd. Who probably didn't ever fuck with Jake Paul and like actually maybe even hated them? Like hey guys like if we hung out in person We'd probably be friends ends in like I like the Party and we're just like I'm just a fucking kid like what's up. Like how do I like mergers two worlds together so weird to think that like say fast for like twenty five years. If you have like a Joe Rogan type like just a show like on your channel but it will be the same channel of you just doing podcasts. And then if you go back twenty fucking years ears those these like weird as videos young relate to at all fucking crazy about. It's weird. Yeah I don't even know that's what I mean. It's like it's hard. It's hard to even think about or deal with or figure out how to navigate. Because there's there's it's different for everybody like Miley Cyrus had fucking come in on a wrecking ball butt naked to kind of make that generation. That's true of a boxing match real talk because that's like have to do something very drastic to make people reconsider you yet. Yeah fucking crazy to think about really is what's the status of this show with Tanna because came starves tweeden saying that it was cancelled. Yeah like where do I start with that conversation like. Why do people still trust him as a new source? Aw I don't get it so not true. It's not true at all. There's a fact that the people on set this is the best pilot we've ever filmed in our whole entire lives like like Blah Blah Blah Blah. And they're just rambling on about how amazing everyone on the show is but like I get like like how is he he. He could say anything He could say anything and people would just believe it. I'm sure there's still like a large subset of people like this other guy who wants to fight me his name's Dylan and like he saw. That news tweeted about it or something. I just saw pop up on my instagram. And he's all this fucking idiot like like and it's not even true now helix dumb right like he's trying to hate on me for something that isn't true in like I don't know people are so quick to WanNa see other people fail in this society like jump on cancer culture. It's like it's honesty so like I've just never been negative or like a hater so like I just don't get it or like having that be like a monetize -able part of your life. Yeah like where did even get like. Where did he get that news from C.? I don't know where he got it from. He was saying it was a tip like when he tweeted it so I'm not sure the extent to which he really he just like at home board and he's like I'm mad because I hate Jake Paul more than anybody in this world and I have a platform that hates him too and I'm just GonNa come up with something that Dr the content and views today like do you feel like a lot of people really hate the fucking thing with you and Tanna. Is that been like a weird source of negativity in terms of people just have in their opinions about that. Yeah Yeah it's weird like my fans don't like it more than more than anything else I've ever seen. The fans are like anti us being married. which is weird but like other than that it's like I don't really think her fans are down? Well the I don't think her fans either I I think her fan like both of our fan groups like argue about it. That's the most amount of negative shit icy from it. I don't think I think the outside world just doesn't know what to make of it. Dan and Billy Irish on follow her over Emoji or something. I don't know why I don't know if it was over that. But that's why I think she'd be so busy. There's so much sugar eh carved out a little time for getting married you bitch follow about wedding was the best best night in my life but I like it wasn't beans guessing very much like a TV type Wayne because it was like a hearty and then tucked walked away over here. You're like doing the the ceremony and a lot of people didn't even know that that was happening at that time it's just being filmed over here. The kind of odd I I thought it was. I thought it was thought went horribly. Really yeah a livestream is all fucked up fucked up and just like it was all too through crowded. There's too many people that we didn't think that many people were gonNA come at. I was drunk so like normally like normally like though like when I'm at my own events it's and like Shit's not going wrong like or she's going wrong like I'm able to like fix some of it problem solve but it's totally out of grand so I was just drunk wrong is fuck now. This is some people are like stand over here like I was drunk. It's show so you're you're kind. Are you kind of in the mentality of mumbling show up and just tell me to stand up there and staying there. I was like this is a party and I was kind of like nervous and I was was just like I'm going. I'm attending party right now. And that's the mindset. I took and I was like fucking taking shots at all. It was just all went terribly and then yeah I don't really remember much of it. It was a well known for me because I was actually hanging out with your mom club while I mean just Chad. Now like three. In the morning she stayed in the club later than me like. I'm over here. Having a chat with the Pam and then just fucking or fans of the hamsters right. Yeah my mom Eh. But I was just hanging. This seems really bad that his mom is still kicking it in the and when I say the club that you guys had this whole like it was like having a big apartment apartment in the club. Yeah we had like four different sections or some share. You really don't have to mingle with the common folk at all when you're in the environment but how what. What did you guys fucking talk about like what what does that? What does that even go? It was probably most of my girl just talking about the wedding of my Emma. Such an amazing person interesting character really. I love her so much. I think she's a big part of why you've been successful. Yeah for sure I think both for both of my parents you know I think like I think they did a really good job of walking into a comment trap hole on Youtube Youtube. I think they did a really good job raising. No he should have killed the Paul brothers parents and Shit. So I'm walking into deathtrap. Yeah no I think like. They taught us a lot of great great values like in again. I'm just walking myself into getting your parents like very much kind of raised the Kinda thing. His parents really like. Raise them to believe that that you could be what he wanted to be today. Sort of give you that mentality because a lot of kids don't have that sort of confidence. I think confidence I think like my dad like you. You know. My Dad was very instrumental on the business side confidence. Hard work like he sent us out. I was probably fourteen thirteen. Fourteen fourteen. Logan was fifteen sixteen to like mow lawns. SNOWPLOUGH PEOPLE'S driveways. We did the business ourselves. We meant that we had clients and we were like taking occur. Clients need and he showed us how to work hard. And and we would. We would actually like by my dad's business was he would buy like a fifty thousand dollar house and by the way he probably only have like seventy thousand dollars his name so he'd by fifty thousand dollar house and then spend like ten thousand dollars fixing fixing it and me and Logan and him would do the work like all through the summer with us will be like every summer and we fix up the whole entire house and then he would sell the house for like one hundred fifty K.. Or something like that and so we were just like we would be working all summer like in the heat like eight. AM till eight PM to fix up the house and like make a dope and it was hard work like these houses were like it was it was awful so you know that taught us to be like humble well and appreciate what we have because he wasn't even paying like we we would just do it two zero dad but you did. You did that sort of show you that like did you see your family's financial situation changed through that hard work like Oh. We're gradually making more money over time and like feeling more comfortable because my dad actually put in that work because I feel like when you yeah bad as a young kid that really kind of tells you something like I'm not stuck where I'm at. Yeah no one hundred percent. I think there was like my dad. Started to get better and better and he started become more and more comfortable and and then he started to be able to have money to even like buy things about by car a car. Whatever it was So yeah kind of I I guess in hindsight so yeah there was able to see like hard work pays off But my mom and my mom just like super super awesome like she's like the loving side of me and like the carrying side and And I'm deaf. I feel like I'm like a mama's boy so We always I feel like we always Kinda held the family together because I feel like my brother and my dad were always causing trouble in like drama and Shit like that and like we were like like the ones who were able to like real everyone back in together right many a major dad at the fight. He seemed like his guard was very up because he wasn't one hundred percent. Sheriff I was talking to him because I was like a person who talked about the family online. We have so much of that always like very kind of like he's like. Oh yeah okay. I've seen your stuff straight up guy out to make sure I wasn't about to like the Eddie Bravo. Had People like liberty like secretly like record me like conversations yeah like just like the weirdest shit a- and I and like same day. 'cause it's weird like my dad has a fucking target on his back to the people who don't like you'll get mad at great Paul. Yeah I don't know like I don't know but he's a good guy you know what's interesting to me is a see how because I feel like the blogs squad was like kind of a second iteration on what you try to do team ten like this. This whole idea of like I have a pop a new channel. I'm going to create like a a network of people in that. But he tried to do his like more separate and Shit where where. It's just sort of like a loose group of people whereas you try to do the thing with like the house and the people really in the house and controlling more of a big percentage of it does. That seem like a kind of a that. You don't want anything to do with at this point yet like it just doesn't work like it doesn't work like the thing with the WLAC looks quite like I saw kind of the progression of it because they all came from vine so they were all successful on their own and they're all talented and and none of them are signed to anybody so there's not like business involved. I'm sure there's like weird shit with like you know like Oh you hung out. You're hanging hanging out with this person or like I'm sure that it gets like convoluted sometimes But with me it's like I set out to create a A A business and so there was contracts and business like what do you make business and like friendship and like living together doesn't it doesn't it doesn't work out in A. Ah The hard part was I was taking people who I saw potential in building them. Up like Eliza Violet right like she was literally like Doc Washburn as a cashier and like saw potential in her and helped launch her career. But then it's like if they don't know what to to do with all of this like they don't know how to work hard they don't know how to market themselves they don't know how to make content or maybe they're not good at it like saying as a specific example I think she is fucking dope at making content and shit but it's a lot to deal with in this world. La like getting snaked over like the clubs. Like that's not a thing like most of these kids are coming from so it was hard for them to keep their head on straight and stay focused and know what to do with the fame in the money in all of the shit that I was given in giving basically handing to them and a lot of the the. It's not that structure. It's not like you're like fine people out to join a video game team and everybody knows what the mission is. The mission is to sit in your room and play video games. And you're really good at it. It's more like your. Your job is to go out and be a professional socialite slash contact creator basically and it's like what what does that turn into. I don't know that idea like I was so interested watching you. Try to do it but I also like having watched it. I really wonder to what extent it's even possible possible to really do that. Stop US yeah. No it's it's weird. It's weird because like like I also was was young. I was was really like young trying to do it at like it was also like how I was learning business. There's like really in general And like how to even deal with investors like there's so much that goes into it and I was so young and I was also having to go out and create content so I couldn't have my control control over over like I like I wanted to And mixed with the fact that I was blogging. Everyday so I would wake up. So mission is is to get the best piece of content. That is on Youtube. Do I care about Suzy's feelings and why She's upset no. I don't sorry like I don't even have time to you. Know and like and and and like they they it was kind of it was kind of like mutual understanding like like. I'm just using susie as a random name but susie didn't feel like she could come to me because she knew how busy I was automated so it was just like it just didn't it. It was just like too too too much. And it sucks. Stow it sucks and it Kinda like Kinda like a fucks me a little bit because because if if I would have had the right people who like just were able to fuck in understand what therefore unlike what division was and endure the hard times of them being upset or than being or or the manager in their ear being like. Oh Jake Paul stake in twenty percent of you come over here we can get you out of that contract. And he doesn't need to be fucking taking twenty percent he doesn't do anything for you. Wake up like I got you all the followers that you have the reason why you're able to make money so if I was able to endure if people the people on the team were able to endure like all those hard times in like push through and stick in focus to the vision like imagine if team ten was like still a thing right now it would be the biggest fucking in group on on online. And that's why it's like the vision was there just like the execution and it's it's probably my fault you know it's like I was the the leader of it. I'm not not even probably it's definitely I was young and didn't have the right people around didn't pick the right people to blow up and you know it's all just a learning experience. I think it's hard to deal with influencers in young kids and fame and money in Russia. So when was lost to Eliza we recently recently so I was trying to get hurt or be in my music video right now of course that we really haven't talked about music whole time even though let's a kind of a good boxer. Yeah so I was trying to get a listened to be in the music video for my new song and she was like down because I wrote the song about a couple of like different of my exes part. One of them was her and I was like okay. Like like my marketing brain clicks on like how how do I get the most exposure like okay. It'd be crazy this was in the video and we had like squashed our beef and like we're cool and all that stuff which people probably don't know before her and banks broke up after before. Yeah so like I might be with banks squashed it with Elissa and then and they broke up after that but you want to be in the video and she was like down in down down and she was like yeah. I'm doing it and doing it and like the night before wash users like I don't do it anymore and so yeah but that was the last time we talked or no. We talk talk like after the song came out you're like hung up on her at all emotionally. No there's like I've definitely had closure I think for a lot. I think for a long time. I didn't realize how much I liked her. Until after the like I think once it was like Logan happened and then like I had like kick grout and then once she was gone. I think I realize like Oh shit like that girl was actually a really cool girl and I actually liked her more than I thought I did. But again I was just like fucking fucking hustling every single day involved in my business and that was my main priority and so I wasn't able to focus on the relationship that we did have which is did have which is why it went south on both sides of of it but yeah I definitely went through appeared Dan. That girls don't like I liked her more than I realized I did. But but it's been so long there's like being closure how do you feel when you see her column banks offer cheating on her a somebody who's sort of been a crucial on this story. You're watching that and you're like. Wow Oh yeah fucking hilarious but also kind of sad. It's it's sad for Eliza but like I feel like what's the there's there's a lot of weird should talk about there but the sad part is like okay. Let's didn't you learn your lesson like the first time to like not put your business like your relationships online mug that that's where I think it's messy and then where it's also messy is like how banks came at me so hard for cheating. Melissa Made me of villain to half the Internet because I cheated on Melissa and because like you know and then he he goes and does the the same thing. Apparently you guys are awesome. cheaters obviously these fucking successful youtubers. Of course go on you. I'm sorry if you are. Yeah it's sad truth dude. I'm sorry listen no it's it's true dude like. La's not the fucking city to find love. You imagine how not normal girls are like Elissa violence getting cheated on our by all these guys what chance do do I have to not get cheated on. No chance I think with social media in general like it's just so hard to be faithful in a relationship so much opportunity there's the there's so much like the grass is greener on the other side It just fucking Like an EH specially in La like you know like there's this girl girls will throw themselves at you and especially if you're in the club like nightlife seen in all that shit and it just gets messy real messy real messy. Aiming about the truth. I remember announced you. I think that the new songs pretty good. Thank you man. I was expecting it into not be that good. I heard it and I'm like you know what this is. This is a lot of growth going on here. Yeah thank you. I appreciate. That means a lot even other homes around who liked literally. Don't even know who the fuck you are pretty much much. They were like good good down. Thank you man. Yeah I I was really happy with with the feedback back and and I've never actually gotten so much positive feedback on on a song the that I've done before and there was a lot of like fans or people who are like I don't like Jake Paul but this is actually good and to me. That was like I was like a mini success. I was like yes. That's W W 'cause I love I love music and again it goes back to like. Put the camera down from blogging. And like who am I as a person like a fucking love music. I love boxing and like the music something where like. I don't have to like fuck in. Try like it ended endlessly creative and it it just the process of is so fun it just and And it's something I love doing so I've just been putting in a ton of time to learn. Learn the craft often and just try things work hard like put put in my hours. Because you can't just say okay I'm GonNa do something and and become good at Eh. You have to try and fail and try and fail and try and fill in. So I've just been something. I've been taking super seriously behind the scenes And just yeah just Getting getting better and working with different people and it's it's like something I see myself doing in five years like I WANNA be on my own tours who are like fucking turning up like S- crowd surfing like with my fucking older fans getting crown Like that's that's where I see myself going and and And it's hard it's hard you know it's not you can't do music. There's so much competition. There's so many incredible people out there in so For me I'm just just like working working at it. Seeing seeing where it goes. Are you Nago Collab- that you did with me chaplain who we just talked about it. I didn't bring thought about it a little bit but then I in the you said you might not even put it out so wasn't sure if yeah I think I think I'm GonNa put it out It's I feel like it's going to get backlash though. Really what you're talking about Drako's and should not about guns. Uh but but like definitely like wrapping more in and I think. There's like the stigma with my name of like Jake. Paul and his music sucks. Because I did put out shit songs like fuck this old songs that like i. I can't even listen. It makes ears bleed and so like obviously I have that track record of putting out like just YouTube ship music But that I'm like wrapping in like and so like I just don't know what the audience's reaction due to an outside community reaction to it but the video is so sick like the music video for it is like it's almost to fire to the point where like like I and I'm talking about the video name talk about the song. Like Steve O's in it like it's obviously emily chopper. Like there's like helicopters in like semi trucks and porsches donuts motorcycles. In like it's like I put a lot of effort into it so so for me. I WANNA put it out but I just don't know if like if the timing will be right because I don't want I don't WanNa like make a fall all step in the music space. 'cause that's already been done now because I've already done. I've already made like bad steps in like bad moves in the in the space done stupid shit and put out trash songs. So I don't WanNa like hurt myself. Shoot myself in the foot when I'm smart enough now to like realize that that but I don't know chopping I like are cool and like you know happened organically that's the other thing. People he chop got paid for the feature chopper got paid for the future like he just got the bag and I just don't like it which is not true but I don't want that to be like become a thing so he didn't get paid. No just happened organically chop so right. When he dropped a shot flow like a couple days later my friend him up and he showed me? The video was like Yo cause my one friend Jada Barbara has like friends with so many people shot before. Yeah he's the plug out. He just knows everyone how he's like. Oh like you entropy should do something I hit. I hit him up and he's down and so he came over to my house and hung out and and I had the song already recorded and the open verse and I and he played either off. Fuck with this like. He's Dan like I know you route and he just did divers and that's how that's how he's as a cook like I kind of seen like his rise to stardom which is fuck in six just talked before those. He's he's got the personality for sure. Yeah and he's he's smart knows what he's doing so yeah but it just like going like me going into like the like putting myself out there into the hip hop space like that just like just like like a fine fine line that I just needed to be careful with definitely i. You know what I'm GonNa do. I'm a play. I'll play you the the video after a good idea and I wanna see what you think about it. I knew did you see that. Yeah so I feel like we covered like the majority of the Shit like the music. The fucking boxing. The love life the past business attempts etcetera better etc.. Yeah those are good summer. Yeah I think it's good Birlik challenge a lot of Shit. Yeah thank you for having us. We have hand towels now. That's fine Hansel. Plenty of team is I saw chop it gets a merchant march anything you want when we got socks because there's new hat. I want that domino's Bro. You Watch your videos. I'm like do that. The man you may get into that shit like fucking never be able to think about anything else ever again. Got Some runs my brain. I shouldn't need this one. You can get the penguin. Oh yeah you probably know exactly what it's about I haven't I haven't got you do you like it. It's about as I heard. It's like dangerous like other ship. Like Ah. But it's so normalize I remember the first time someone was like. Hey you on and I was just like no but like it's normalized. I feel like hell. Yeah but then you forget. Sometimes he'd be talking about drugs like people in fucking Iowa. Just what are you doing you did molly and you forget that you're talking to seventh grade kids and fucking they have no no clue and that if you're the drugs yeah no. That's important too for drugs. Fisher definitely should this. We Live Jake. Paul appreciate human man. He saw guys appreciate Aji. Jake Paul November close by asking world tickets on Youtube soundcloud items like comment subscribe Dot Com. You only get yourself a hand towel cap that she hit appreciate. y'All thank you all for watching. I'm Jay Paul makes you to like this Scott and no jumper we out.

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Entry 26  DEAN SUTHERLAND  POWER RANGER  WORLD CHAMP KICKBOXER  PRO BOXER

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Entry 26 DEAN SUTHERLAND POWER RANGER WORLD CHAMP KICKBOXER PRO BOXER

"Oh Komo how offered like welcome to another episode of my Tennis Journal show if your regular listener than thanks for dropping again and if you're new to the shore there's a fair chance that you are from the world of boxing so thank you very much for taking the time to press play. All of my guests I try and find special people that I can learn from and we can all learn from and this week show is an absolute talk. Of God's our local loon Dean Sutherland. Who's a former multiple world champion in kickboxing? And as treason transitioned into the world of professional boxing. This guy is only twenty years old. But what you hear them you will hear on. Relentless determination disciplined focused strategic approach to everything that he does. He is currently working fulltime and is working probably harder than most professional tennis players that I knew of. So you retreat. I just sit by. Listen we spoke for about an hour and the guys fee only ground but as aiming for you know the stars. It's unbelievable in terms of other guests. Pullback look at the back catalogue never knew if you how many shows you how to have before he can call back but go in Chattanooga there's twenty guests in their all world class in the room rights and you learn from the wall if you like what you hear take a second press subscribe right. Review gives the five star rating on wherever podcasting up. We've got and share it with your spouse. I'm doing it for the most genuine of reasons and I'm a one man band trying to help everyone. I can so yet take a second press the buttons that need to grasp so without further. Ado. I'm GONNA pass you over Sutherland. So welcome to the shooter Dean. The thing I said to you in a first message that become fascinated with box in because all of a for poured cashier redon Spencer. And Jake Spencer. If you're listening to this this is all your fault but when when I first heard about US Paul Cat Nick and his son windows kick box and he said all you need to have a look at this guy and he got your your video up on the website and I was like why it was like disciplined the termination laser beam focused so. Start me off by running. By what typical day is in almost a typical day or a typical week in the life of Dean are currently a professional box. Still having to work through well man so just now. It's early morning. Runs over the tradition and then afterwards come home. Get dinner get changed. And I'm either Auburn Dean and David. Lloyd's June conditioning or Skyhawks. Jim intended from walks in work. So it's so and even a nighttime so when you say early early talking in five o'clock up and you'd run in four or five miles now and what's the purpose of that opposite getting miles on under Judah senior like takes bosses must have fought term when you go into the championship round. The very first thing that goes isn't your arms. Legs move your legs non elsewhere ca but moves to cut and get your definitely definitely my ideal. F- If you can't move your feet you can either be standing targe or you can't get to the target. How strong roots is basically the do the running like intense? We talk about having a good view to Max but it is it literally the strength in your legs. There's not lungs as or is it a combination of stuff at the longer as obviously hind. But it's a mixture between the longer Judas runs for your leg strength basically and then the sprint were in the box spot on the issue. Not there the your lung capacity like the approximate okay. So you didn't David Lloyd's in India given because this is going to be like give them a show done about them and do you have a specific coach there or do you go in and do dog of God a sun in Dundee automobile through a couple of the guys that getting far at con- sports performance was okay and he's done work in research and especially for some of the top sports sites guys specifically for m. e bulletin. Okay at some been doing a lot worked with him. Felt massive improvements coming along with it. And it's just picking your training ten different field and open up the skill. The lots are running by spotted actually thought the complete athlete. The telling yourself into. I think that was the thing hit me when I watched. Your video was clear to me that you don't WanNa leave any on turned up. It always like it's not what twenty one now. Twenty twenty three twenty one year right very unusual certainly in the world. I come from to have someone that age focused and disciplined in terms of working fulltime job. There's tennis players are full time. Call them profession but they are not working. They're probably not doing the work outside you you which and the whole thing of the you mentioned the near video of the three things you value things like health relationships and loyalty and if we go back to your early kick boxing day for what was your introduction to kick box and we'll see if we can tie those things together well started pick one to windows three and a half years old three was an ideal was far too much energy right and I love the power in believe show turned to blue power job. I was out and from there basically very I. I came along. I didn't even really need an introduction to study on in St enthusiastic. Okay I think the big thing that then set on the course compete with fresh competition did thing I think it must have been about five five or six years old that ended up with two of first competition and I think that King Dr set the bar exactly what was going to do. Pastoral really loves the Path I was going to be successful through hard work and a base they went from. That was the very first competition. I went which was a highland in ships and then increase to squash championships in there and then for the Cuando cannot run out where the number competitions to go and the box because there's so named different organizations that could be one every single weekend. Okay so my coach from a pick one. Take me along to that and it was the same. Just love the whole adrenaline-wash they get for all that can't hungry. Success kept welcome. Excuse me what's the difference being taekwondo and kickboxing? Itf Taekwondo right very little difference between the Tae Kwan. Shing the Olympics is WTO which is just the legs okay but it FDA Cuando as very very similar to the border I self so it was a big transition right here at central member. Neil explain me all these different governing bodies and former different rule sets and stuff and it sounded to me is easy for me is neutrally can end but it felt like is there not a need to bring an argument were powerful political enough political thing about it. I think it's political to people. Don't get along very immature leaders of the organisms. The one who wants to be the kingpin can't be a lot seem as it comes down to end will things that comes down to politics and money so somebody's going to have to take a cut to go underneath did then. They're not going to do what they're wanting to be the heads of organizations and think it's Kinda despite our went out from the here. It's a shame because then only certain clubs will compete s our organization and it basically just funnels a we followed pool. Becomes very selective of what you've what you can do and who you can walk in. You can train Wednesday layout which is which is. That's the reason I think why can't balks in trance. Really Gordon for Olympic are the Laurie fundamentally too many different branches for it needs to become the one sold three A. It's a shame we not a similar situation in tennis book. Similar in the political side of things. We've got lots of different governing bodies within our sports so we've got the which is like the world international tennis vegetation you've got the ATP which is the man's the WTA you've got it from Davis Cup. Atp WANTS TO RUN THEIR OWN WORK. It even little things like this new thing and ut are which is a universal tennis saying signs like recently the decided. We're going to have one as well instead of actually cooling together. Why one thing just makes it. We're more diluted as you say so has way earlier or younger than I was pitching. Remember you saying that you'd want your goals in your first and I was thinking maybe ten eleven or wherever so. That is an insanely young age to have number one hundred clear memory and also realize that this is going to be your funnel if you like your work ethic can you drive and so on for them. What were your early experiences? Like in the kind of training or the coaching of the detail on doing kickboxing. Especially because I was so young on the really clever way that harmful through games right so you were excited about doing things then realize you are picking up which is what you should be doing. Be Like soldier working. It should be fun and relaxed but Little skills tips and tricks that you pick up wrong just by doing a fun game that you don't actually realize that stuff that you can take off from his unbelievable downside of podcasts. You can't see how big my face is. I had no idea you're going to see that but that's like music because in tennis. Go exactly the same thing. It's like a lot of people think it should be like rote learning just reps ABS- whereas say our like in the Judy Muller Foundation for example in my background performance Tennessee's very much about let the Games do the teaching for you. Actually that implicit learning rather than they can just do this. A thousand times sinking. I think this thing is well young kids but attention tension spawned drop can change in a second. So if you've got involved They're hyper excited to do. Then they're going to be involved but if you're just giving them the same rolls over and over and over and over again within three times you've lost interest in. That could be finished tennis coaches listening as the word there. Did you have seen coaches for a long time hud metric for a long period of time? And then I changed about a weaver in Box to basically find the bachelor root for myself this. It seemed to be because I was competing in such a early age when an early age. That seemed to be picking things that Ev- foster who always kinda bumps in. Ob Club to club. Because I was not as much more of that. The real challenge men like we've seen before you always need a cool. If I was the top of the class will be looking at somebody else to chase about it but my kickboxing but the kickboxing boxing gym. With notes seem that there is a four professional ball comes with the same general city them off kickboxing that we used to train in the world and stuff. I got to counter through the kickboxing right. And then just funneled into the professional bopping without club for six years now to be once. Yeah so it's the everything's working and the the in terms of in getting challenge in martial arts. Is that challenge in skill or size if you know what I mean. So if you're a good kid and you want to be challenged move up a week group or up Bosnia fair thing things. The world championships went to from fatty young age that the always trouble in different countries. Yeah so am I remember one year in Germany and German hunter squad over three hundred fighters which was massive for the tournament. But then you could go with likes being spent on a massive team but then she the French slightly smaller team when we saw. You always got new competition. Which was the good thing about traveling but if it were just in itself things can almost keep crossing the same possibly chiller and as the builder loft friendships through. Ms Welwitschia will do tennis relationships. Yeah I'm a little johnny. You're not thinking about really the ruthlessness. If I winded winded this morning just off flamed across. You don't want a whole Broccoli but but when you go internationally anybody you're upset you're more pride than yea or determination is good. You said that because I think it's not so much now but definitely when I was a younger coach. My early experiences of taken kids. Internationally were the assumed. The international kids were better than that because it was like maybe Britain as a tennis nation. Then wasn't accuracy to say Britain. I'm GonNa say scholar eighty now internationally. Everyone news ever come from Scotland so is almost of the must be. We've always produced relatively junior but those early experiences of the kids were almost the opposite of what you're saying or the human. They've got an accident. It must be amazing but now it's almost like I'm GonNa take you because I think it's maybe just like a of always one comedian. So I knew I was winning. Everything's here and then internationally first world championships at ten up to cold theaters. I think me personally. I just didn't have that feeling off. Anybody was about just winning winning with holiday to do that way. But maybe other people that didn't have such as maybe just the mantles of the we internationally thinking off continental in Scotland Britain. Trench okay. Who how did you take defeats? The new indicated he'd lose. I am a hundred percent one of the worst loser ever get through massive massive tantrums especially when I was younger to throw single Toyota. The problem and that was Mu region told the next weekend which would go and keep or for the next competition. But they're the tears random facing the salt go. Where is the new Richard at the time? But I think that was just the whole of Sioux Volvo yet. The plan hiding my head and then someone's got to change. It wasn't teaching someone else saw. Yeah because if you reflect back after all the tears was that a learning process that you go through I what it would be like an fight game. They say before we talk box in the kick boxing. Would you play back the fight in your mind or would you have a coach? Said you did this up normally step back and let mccutcheon instructions outdoor work. This is what you can leave them more practices for stuff. But I've always been a visual learner of lighters. I always watch bites when lose. Wherever as that. And that's one thing even straight after performances like done. Gosper Edinburgh driving. I will watch my video constantly back and I think it's just such a visual learner. He Midland and do something. Brilliant always buckets at Kuta. This this maybe should have done that. I think it's always looking for that. We improve my cell phone was went to be patented. Was yesterday. Yeah I think that's the whole thing when I lost at shut it down thinking right. I'm not there yet. By the same time. Me More determination to think right person. Beat me I'm GonNa make sure that beat mixture three times. Yeah Yeah. Would you attribute any of this mentality to anyone in your family or friends or mum and dad leg Mamoepa vetere lacks the? I think they're more surprised than I on the host successful things. They've just these along just thinking at risk some comparative Noaa. It's went from being in a little time hall in Dean to internationally troppled Spent surprised into them. Couldn't say of anybody by Granta Cycle. Compare Okay I you've got to be back. Competitive Edge Him. He seems very very good cyclist a domestically. So I think maybe grew up in an era where you spend a Lotta time with your grandkids or not really bothering always go round. Didn't have a contest that we changed the recurrent. Insure them intriguing fees from the weekend. I did when I was always did as part of the routine year and the hunt them off on this on this stuff but I wouldn't say there's anybody specifically they came from but I would say that I think having up wind from such a early age polly's intimate especially Schule young. Yeah and it went in a basically. This is exactly. What's going to happen is interesting because in tennis quite often we see the players are doing that at the youngest age is actually becomes too much pressure for them when they get to and the teen teen is for example. I'm guessing the difference would be. We don't have classes in tennis. Cut to mean by that is you can say. I'm seventy five kilograms. I could be playing against somebody. Who's six eight and just completely different animals me but the even I think regardless different I think. Different mindsets of athletes they. I know like in the kicked. Boston does have to wreak agree. She got and stuff like that. I think the big thing that especially of obscene as a special starts coming close to the teen years yet. There's a lot more destruction. When highland rea- friends more wouldn't be football or member everybody else's into then gets slightly older teenagers in it starts becoming girls and stuff like that and I think I've had a really support a family move my girlfriend from a young age and again together for five years now that she's been supporting me and I think that always spoke to my friends from been able to the the this is? I'm going to do something different. And this is gopher and then I can speak to them and I've got the the tunnel vision here. That's different Israel because most people don't most people stray if you like what's your thoughts on if I said investment or sacrifice. How do you see the those kind of two words basically what you just said? Investment of first thing. I would say time here so you caught on fast wherever tiny you've got yet so instead of maybe Santa Watching TV and Be Watching for me. The Jewish taught a previous lights of done or other top professionals. If I can pick up things and sacrifice I think it would just come to for me. Just Bihar comes down to is the difference. Is I think between tennis. Inbox tennis handball. When Fox in your head on my correct the they've just as the win get safe as well they can do by heading year more or heart his tax best Ex exactly I the thing suck face as you need to be able to put in and willing to give up more than one other offer. The big scene is in Boston. And what you see. We top fashions as whoever their goule is forever. They must be competing against. They've got to do more runs for a long time. It's always the got to be a head and I think what is decided by the if you're willing to give up the time and everything into the then. I've done more preparation other passion plan. You're already one step ahead comes into remember Daley Thompson in he trained on Christmas Day. The reason train them just mistakes in you one day also was mean. Rival takeoff was like well. He's taken to Arkham working on it. Is that psychological? The reason I asked the sacrifice is I'm a bit of a wordsmith and I do think that words are power from and I hit a lot of people in Tennessee. Speaking about the sacrifices you make and it's not a sacrifice is an investment to invest. In your time your energy your effort your money of course to do this thing that you've said you want to do and I think that's the difference between what I'm feeling from your mindset versus giving tennis players Draft Cups you attended the I see as maybe say the norm norms of most people. I don't think your normal best sense but most people are sacrificing the Friday nights with their meets wherever well if you invest the time. The payoff is going to be way better. I think the people got too short vision a lot. It was just got what's happening tomorrow right. Okay I'm going out with my friends or I'm going to the movies or something like what especially Albacore to do my training. It's twelve weeks for its month. Just all you train up. You've got a game in the AFC. Trine game the weekend. I've got decide place. I eight twelve we. Ed could be far every second of every round or I could go in there and get the person in ten seconds to me. Thought you've got to give absolutely everything and I was GonNa ask you now. I'll park that until we get into the bulk of it because that was one of my fascination with the Boston world is at ten Twelve Week. Training Camp Mentality so I thought of you just described as so peak kickboxing best in the world. Can't get any better than that. Why or let's see what in your mind. What was peak kickboxing time? What Age were you were? You think I'll give fifteen fourteen fifteen. I think was the big PD where kept Boston's not funds? That are tall and my son and that up enough company out of time and he spent twenty thousand permanent year traveling classes and competition. I think one of fourteen. I think that was the big peak years that at really determined that Roy. Okay this is really really go from last because we re used to travel all over all over the world and we would always be winning A. It'd be different if I wasn't here. Basically like okay I think for you here. We can look elsewhere. Everything was working. It was click India. Spend a time with my parents and my brother travelling vote to take well sort of couse born as well so it's not just your brother did does job. I'm probably does. He was competing and unfortunately for him. starts to then become really competitive. Picked UP A REALLY NASTY. And he's still trying to rehabilitate jackie younger seventeen hundred. So he's starting to look for a job. He's a bit more brains. He's skills rain's coming. You've got good is Rona. He's more academic. I mean to learn tribe and stuff like that Jack Ma when he's still trying to get the whole recovery from his knees. I think don't think become a career for him or the professional boxers for me. Do you think your passion. They'll stick with loves the TREE MOUSE BACK in social part you got you. Can you make live in kickboxing? Not even professional kickboxing at the highest level. When it works out said the each twelve weeks. If you did out for your professional it'd be less than minimum wage. Yeah you probably making more apart thing job here so when it comes to like. Nah Yeah then that. That's the big reason. Why a lot of talk kick boxers get to a certain level. Mendon the Brunch. It goes a lot of them either. Goes the Boston route or the enemies? Nuts that's going not bigger. Sell some of the big names and point kickboxing remain Daniels? Mako pedes because the fight differently to the regular enemy fighters. The stunned out while you're in different day and I think that comes to get to the top and then you've really go anywhere else funnel to say so. That was that one of the reasons you transitioned into box. I came to the split. Were really done. Everything wanted to in the box and it came out and said done books and another thing I think the enemy say the things I will be very good at the stand ups by probably would have had to give up two or three years to concentrate on the wrestling. Jitsu stuff like that and for me. I love to compete. Nfl couldn't compete A. B. A. B. But a new straight with the box numbers I was GONNA go. I'm a spot and with some professional boxers and my team has already went professional walks and softer speaking Hayes. Mina Jarvis Kanga a simple veal of what will do as early dis. Like when you first went into this image of ahead of like somebody punched and you want to Kaitlin. I think just because Honda passionate about the watch that saw more as uh sued keynote never came Lou the people. I've been surprised as well. I've never heard that was about a still a help. Teaching kickboxing and stuff like that. I can still Joel the funds. Pay Him but I didn't but but the boxes are never actually had the Irish the deal. I've been out of the food. What the US Expos? Yeah Yeah so for me and the people listening does that mean I knew. It was essentially left-hander. Does that off course? Lying about great. I'm not sure. So it's okay I should be an Orthodox which Orthodox means you're left pond left legs free and your power your right hand your right leg to the buck. Okay an awkward so far right so my power is actually my okay so my right hunt and front my rate legs in front right. Which is I think than it's coming from the coming from the back to the front. Yes so power should become from my left side where my stronger sides my right. Okay I I write your hand cut food and stuff like that as my general power site right but after doing working and pulmonary injury on the left hand side and I kind of relied Mussa. Marais events been stuck with me right. Felt comfortable doing in. It's been awkward opponent own success with over just repetition in practice. That still seem refund sites much more profanity but my power precision and say I'm a left onsite vastly improved so I kinda gives him problems. I could go either. I can mix them much. Nf It means that the difference between the sunspot Orthodox is an Orthodox for a fight much more Orthodox seeming Tennessee. Eight hundred The same yeah but some of these are left time. Change you change. I watch box and the very first thing that you've got to work with the feet position because it means to touch each thing. I this is my my limited box official boxing day apart from the streets. Still Newman as the Denham intrusive visited there and that was the stance that he was doing. I and am I right in thinking so I'm right handed but who was my right foot forward left for your right hundred your left for. Yeah Yeah Yeah so you are going right right. I on my right hand right handed. Yeah right like the front. Yeah so that was right right right right. Yeah generally should be set ups. It's called yet and my power sites should be colorful for fish here as funny because in in tennis terms like that this the shoulder is going. The furthest distance will be the power side. They got so much. The opposite from that was boxer. Power side should be from the box. Rotation through sake generates more power. You should have seen me wheel in on this bag for session right and the guy was like you know in your mind. You're going nail in this bag and the bag swinging everywhere. And he's like I could feel the game nudging for this boy and now going if hit the bank. Well it shouldn't move could not get ahead in any Schuermann. It was like almost now. You correct me. If I'm wrong worth correct me. The it was in my mind it was like he was in almost the same amount of power in as it comes out so it was the recoil of it that was equally as important. Putin your everything throughout the thing about the baking recent about punch buck so you can. The blog is if you're you punch your content don't your with your is talking about the game they said at the start was when you teach kids he this guy taught me confidently because he put it in a game context and all he said was. If you do that. I'm going to knock you know. That's a great big center keeping. That was what I was doing. My hand was good and it was your need to get your hands straight back A pretty good sale. I was amazed I was blown away by the Times. I've gone to box gyms on a few different things. The first one is how technical is again. Caveman in me was thinking. It's just if you're begging Swing but some of these kids that were in there were unbelievable so it was the first thing the second probably the most powerful thing was there was no hierarchy like I literally never been in in my life and instantly in there with semi pros and kids are twelve to adults that were fifty five sixty wherever and everyone just mixed in and helped that same happening. Combat jetsons in combat and extreme on those little tiny from. Yeah and there's much more elderly for their fire. A little distance there is more pedigree. Biscuit worker professional boxer Tony country or help you. It's not like is that a standard box and think from listening to the podcast. That pen for pain. That's the thing I keep coming out this abortion. Jim is where I'd like to hang in. 'cause I hear Heidar. Everyone knows me. Hit PEOPLE THINKING. They're better than someone because of a status and money and all that stuff so I was blown away with. Is that standard? And I would say so because there's no eagle in because if you've got Eagle in a boxing gym get punched. Somebody beggar business. Simple as we as the keep your head down. You have a loft with the people. Yeah but at a business that go there to do a job. So somebody's these walking about with the chest slim but they will get found out. Hedge might not have in standby well hop and and I think that's what I can't remember the word in by ticket picture of Mukundan and it was like a laminated sheet and it was essentially the essence of it was sparring is for learning. That can respect thing of show that you're learning and not. It's not knocking each other stuff so that standard as well or not invading especially if you travel different places okay. I know one big thing. This happening over automatic that a lot to do as came recorded witnessed professionals like done here but a lot of them seem to be doing it to try to give them more social media. Publicity advocate new. I'd say no like finger casual look gruden stuff. I come from a ball combined. Can I think you knew your than the person? You're getting off them here stat but especially in America just knew it seems to be that almost fun. Rebuilt eighteen inch the ruins which blocks and it was. Were talking about on the show where that you had been released by this box of him. Essentially either knocking guy down inspiring like an APSE. Sometimes that trump didn't shoot especially at the top older school professional. You'd be very very rare to find is sponsored through into that. I knew often that's good. I like Oh that can avoid fashioned values and respect. And that's the thing that really hit home with me is that. I knew there's can be i. Do you straighten this person. Trash talk in the movie street off and you see these guys trash talking each other but as soon as it's done from ABC the mutual respect detainers the bit that that's the thing I love about box in that respect that the habit the end of the day and I get the feeling that the trash talking is to sell tickets. That's one big thing. Though it is it seems to be that the more you can trust the beggar opportunities you get the more money can be called Law Fights nowadays. The hopping shouldn't happen but because if talked each other into anything all right this could this could be a good money maker that makes money. It makes sense Challah people so they can boost their show about different things to each other. People buy into these guys really. Don't up being watched to see the tooth and Talbot Hunkin after fate lying because bullpens walk in the club. The becoming a professional boxer. What do you have to do like what process if you wake up one day right? I'm going to transition from kickboxing into being professional freezer. Do you have to register? You've got you've got to go through after process for once I got saint from that doesn't mean you're saying professional boxing and you still got to go through the S. over here. You've got your impression Puerto box and control approval. She'll far Australia Clause Guven set in a boardroom. With Your Monitor. Sit Down to a representative board. The ask you questions about your background like a you. Basically have a conversation about them. The Oscar different things about what you've done in the past and if you hide any criminal record that up and stuff like their feet to them about step outside. Hold back in the tally. If you've been approved right okay. They're still about finish there. You get done and then you've got to see about fool medical. I'm which cost six hundred year to get done to be done privately in Scotland. There's only one place in which is dining clausewitz and be peon right when one of the holidays and you've got to get blood and blood tests done. You've got 'em Scud done you've got get seen by a doctor a body function and then you for all the results to come back and then if you do have anything that comes up. Get not seeing too far. He's tall. Once saw August finished famous. Enter your people record? I do that. I mean offices then you wait for reply and you get your box in cardiac. So that's the big long period takes a soon between sign moaning jar and get my professional only since lose half works out so it can take a while yet to expire. What would be the most common reason that a boxer would feel a medical or is it a lot people almost never looking an MRI scandal? I never get some in the chamber and something simple could come up in their right thought. You never know that you never know when I was getting my style. Actually infant had a of be unable decent. My sister okay so then I go under course of injection to make sure to hide essential and okay and what would be the name of heaven that I think because at inbox in Columbus would be book combination. Fayek end of kind if I wind up getting a blended could cost them. Har. It's basically for my dealer so I got and I think the best thing about think will professional books. I never had a major medical with kickball. You've got as almost a yearly amity. That once again not done in Europe to your day and our car was to make sure this literally light excessive and so how do you go about dumb question? But how'd you go about gang fight so you're six seven seven days so seven? Yeah terminology seven seventy know. How did you get number one? What's the proof sets guessing through a monitor? Yet your monitoring visit is in control of your face situation hop in so if you don't have a more but a slight hypocrisy monitored basically is in control of career right so you don't have a pro war. She's the one to get you fight okay. And then he gets his percentage of your parts that the from the fight so that I signed That ends up going into Canaan. Folks imposes humans promotional company as well Because I don't have a promote arts through his promotion high which was major thing. That's really really good for myself so at the I am tool from him right. I'm having a shoe here I would like to be on the show. Yeah and then. He's got to sort through watching. Aloma HOPKINS START. Your boxing clears you go up against. Journeyman was involved. So it's almost expedient fire that's been in their Louis Louis are gonNA people but they're not. They're there to do a job yet as to say the there to go in there and and really angel clear before it's even started but they are tat for me. Why did especially with the China when you learn a lot from them that you could give them an obsolete? Beat that and don't go away a lot in good journeyman. This very very really get stopped. Yeah because the technically what the if any good at reading other people as well. That's a big thing if you can do a good job against them and get complimented because they go and can't your every single top professional has joined a minimum or a warm up or fits. Just stay busy fight enough. Envy single ones fought journeyman. One the my very first second second third a third my third fight and it was host the hundred and third and to get complimented your vanity. That's a massive confidence business guy on the guy. Initially I think think he had the record for fifteen hundred fighters season that he had but that was what was coming out from him. Think he'd only be knocked like a handful of titles and all those and it was because he said he would be the person that would fall not pure like rate. Some of these pool. Don't need you. And he said because he was doing he decided early in his cue. That was the wave is going to go. He became a master protected and so he knew When things weren't going right and you do certain things. He was doing their bit the respect that he had from. Let's Spencer Lena. Professional boxer will huge hose. It was almost like he was that owes a master of history. The massive coach. What the do because he can really hand up and say. I'm going to Boston man. Some I'm going to let some punches me to get. The Pendleton is like those guys to France ones that the donkey work Lewis. I think you've got the often because basically decided right. I'm a don't personally think I'm good enough to go right to the very top so I'm going to be a professional walker. I'M GONNA make some money off So if I can learn defend myself and fight of Summit are really can fight every single. Weekend just depends. How much Wednesday do? The don't pay for travel costs to got paid for. They'RE GONNA the hotel paid for to get fuel off to sell eighty tech. There's no ties to. They can get caught up on Thursday. On the freighter. Israel up to them and the walkaway money. Some of the top top journeyman could could make fifty sixty conduct really works out a in the basic our yard vastly your frankness benchmark. Yes yeah I the way it gets refined? His last like you got pregnant. Pdf me into your learning before the ups and your last fight was guy either. I I decided that. That was the boxing union of Ireland Relic Pale. Okay so the way it works with that is it's got to have an heir. Shapur involved right so the title ended up becoming can be faint for me that fame Florida dot stay my head monitor. Hide Start Looking at the fight when we were four or five hundred. Ed Been Building up a we. Kind of Newburgh went feces tiller. At some point you had similar can offspring that he'd been a professional but longer than me will be old. Darn were volkstimme yet. But because I fought so regularly the star were both six at the same time day and that that was going to be that good piece. The ordeal people could get involved in exciting. That was a points points very enjoyable fight to be often especially if an upper team to hall road. The atmosphere with obsolete Electra. Stunned FREE CHOSEN. The show. It's already father was my nickname is and his nickname's key to exactly the same yet sell. When accordingly applaud things? I could improve tall and it was the first time in eight rows and stuff like that well and some dot colliver clear less than a year ago from a I tell you. I was quick alert for bar. A stepping stone passes from three. And a half defy exotic the so. You mentioned plan right. So that's cool. Because he touched on ten twelve week training camps. I never thought of it in terms of if I'm thinking no easy pharmacy Peres. Thinking the difference in Tennessee's you could play to the Grand Slam your play once every two days and you have to one say one fighters done you've gotTA re curricula against against a different opponent. So I was thinking of it more from that sense but I never thought of the pure almost absolute discipline required to peak for something three months away so what if was possible to condense that three months into minute or two? What was what was it like? Lots of roadworks year monitoring Lots of Frenchman in jump yet. Lots and lots of stuff but JIM strength. Ignition it finish on the box in the other things on for me. What what is a really really big things I like to do. As travel for my spot. Okay I think that you've got a lot more compatible spot and you get that little bit younger debts. 'cause you're somewhere new more trying to rush and it can be but more than just a SPA Kennedy more attentive and yeah. I think that especially if you step up in your face or spotted with people as much more experienced than yourself you're only going to learn from it and if you can hardly are southward to the well end up. It's only going to give you confidence for going into. Do you get like intense. We've got an expression of match fit. Is it a case of tapering towards that? So you can let doing the genetic fitness but then as you get closer and more specific in terms of as perpetual if you did that maybe three of four fight to be yeah right the top five thousand only to normal to fights in the. Eh but as a young prospect you got Kinda put yourself out there so I seven times in less than a year so I don't really have Couple routier is basically just right. There might be six weeks half that fight an ambitious straight back in general and then one day working late and hotter fight than it could be buckle chain. Could get a last minute call all. We've got this fight that you could be taken into these times there. Would you be interested in it? And that's what ends up happening. So I think I fought July twice in September November favorably March. Me Yeah right okay. And you mentioned your plan in your last one. Who comes up with a plan for how you GONNA tactically strategically books the that I've got this guy is veterinary although we don't specifically own for the other person's could work on good advice can adopt to that. I personally for me. I've never believed in on this person's will produce slowly all right. That's my cut out the change up yet to fight you so I don't. We never really cool. In what Kim Padre more just. The preparation is perfect. Yeah all the hardware Wherever opponent comes up that's the best. I have changed slightly that myself experienced. I've got cable channel. Cnn adopted Okay and especially my coaching team. Nova as well. Yeah and instead of a really good relationship with them. It doesn't need to be Bossy Long. Story Short and sharp that sticks yet recovered a very good balance in one of the big things. I would preach. Don't mind using that word in tennis because I would suggest if you say that for me. There's not much more pressure than someone standing in front of. You tryin literally knock you out in Tennis. But see is tough and some other. We know it's not as great as that. So what do you want to be thinking about when you're under pressure what they're what you're going to see a low of them tennis players practicing most of their time on what they're not good at and then? Lo and behold under real pressure it pops up on her head so if you are going into those last rains if you like or like four on fits you need to focus on what you get a massive transfer there also. The coaching thing that you mentioned there wants the coaching relationship is strong. It can be one word and they knew exactly even be a gesture and especially their their other is what you can't see. That's what they're seeing. It needs to be that connection. That the understand what? You're seeing what you're going through what you're doing well. What needs to be as to the wrong it should. It should never be doing this wrong. Your phone this any imperial. It should be not positive. mortgage was less bad. Exactly there's only so many different you're not trying to reinvent the wheel only so many ways you can box if you are doing literally every imagine in and more punches landed means less that they basic we're thinking of it in terms of them that right back to the start that video you said. I think I read something the other day it was like this is what I want. I wanted to fight this guy for the scores. Tell you on. This is my manager. So that could've single-minded laser beam focused. What is the short medium and long-term GonNa be for short time for me? Before the end of the winter squash the person the whole detail and then would be was my team. Earnest's WHO's Milana tournament and it's just something that and Whatnot Stephan story because you win. The Scotch Tales cost an idiot so then when it comes to brush Oron Skins but if anybody pulls out the quite look at the eightieth tight could be that if I've got the then maybe fifty four months. Dunblane abreast title fight comes up on an opponent poos on four weeks then the more or less. If I'm ready I'm caught one tails I'm calling for higher but again the for that would be short-term green before the end of the year to be run in the top twenty or before the end of the. I'm do well without jail which I never really thought it was going to happen. I think because I'm jumped up into big BIG RISKS. Hydrates the weeds. Excuse meaning talk at welterweight which is tainted on seven and a half store which is very very exciting week characters Brian Jenkins. There's some good names to get involved to not mix. I needed to take risks and I was just going. Take the wants to both at Mottain eleven will take a big step for me to do I went from one. World fails box and and yet I don't want to go right. Down Pecking order by. What does success long so for me? That was a big thing of quick fast apprenticeship yet instantly shootings. A big fight won't pick a risk Instantly jump to the opportunity with both hands monitor understands might set outgoing. She'd noise the boundaries of the modern aspirin yet. But you also knew that eager and willing harden liquor thing and I think that's the big thing excites him an excites me. That even though I'm young I don't have that fear Hero. If I get pop into a now it's more that of dunes alive now when to an loath enjoy success that you got falling so far short time it'd be the scarsdale freely for me for the twenty twenty one but stale made it sort comb left. Pale on the big goal as a role tailhook limit. Tweet twenty five twenty six million truly love the mindset. 'cause it's one thing that always appreciate the goal. I will do. Anything to get ahead in students have reached out and growth are stuff. But that's just the way that very simple. Hey where'd that we touched on a little bit there? This is purely from a box and fans point of view and a very young at that. It feels sometimes the very top of the game. They're almost trying to protect their zito. If you like. It's like if you talk about the learning that can happen through losing which most people seem to acknowledge that you learn more from yeah. I don't particularly like that mentality that you have to loose it. Learn to learn from winning but is there is that a pattern has always happened nerve. Relatively modern push a bit more of a modern for thing. I think you're proper you're older fires. They were just there. Get Pizza carefully. What laws in the NFL driven really the good? Keep that run cohere and obviously whoever was the big name. David wouldn't fight. I'm I think I was more old school waterman instead. I now I think our sold any politics and monetarism falls with deals. That's media that at money involved. Now these money involved in its crease when you look at the top. Sorta level yeah thought its investments that these companies are in money into so when it gets to the top. I think that the protect Z. Looks almost makes them feel invincible. All I don't have a loss on my talk in Tennessee teams around the big players. Sometimes the entourage's lake getting beyond and it does feel a little bit like that. Anthony Joshua's last fight. There was twenty eight people in his. And you can imagine and this is like Anthony. Th you're listening to a ticket I but you can imagine there must be a huge amount of yes men surrounding them does. He ain't what they're wanting to here and all this stuff so interesting but I think the younger generation in this modern time are will take rescue. You see a lot more younger players taking big risks. One of the big ones just Dial to anything. Gorman knitting twenty two or twenty fitting violent of US twenty one meet event on a talk show. I think the tool between them. Twenty three or twenty fight so they're basically just double figures with each other here state on Beecher shoe being so young yet and I think a lot more failures especially younger for doing that nowadays at the Kinda do the to take risks. Can't be there again volved. Because the big names are what could appear ed clear and less thing in terms of the role models for you in boxing. Who who's your. Who's the guy the the poster Guy Bef- Before he retires Floyd Mayweather the big thing. That was one of the big reasons even for ten point. A few just opposite loafed personnel. Pa It's the pure brilliant and the crossman absolute must across. What would you sum him up? Like in Tennessee of game style. And all that sort of stuff. So how would you sum up the technicalities of what? He does brilliantly and boxing I would say is one of the most strategic Klay on dedicated fires Hop Legislate Movements of people don't see each Twitches he's Two or three milliseconds ahead okay. But that's the difference uncertain why I think he's been so good near nobis believable but now nowadays the biggest fun I have just now especially being from the ceiling lava Shangri from touch sleep. These eighteen Lukamba can look August. She is closed is the most successful trump type. A one loss near enough four hundred five which of two time. Olympic gold or stuff like that but he looks effortless. Think thoughts what makes it look Almost like everybody else can slough of is like a rube off as rights are smooth away. Everything what shoe. Calculate and precise yeah. It's the same in tennis. Dd anymore can logically track it. But their brains process things much quicker so an analogy might work is lose Hamilton. Driving two hundred miles an hour like me and you drive in eight. He sees coroner's he sees turns eastward break. Went to an opportunity and tennis players always remember federal when Roddick was hitting serving one hundred and forty five miles an hour. Somebody asked him. How can you return to serve so quickly? He said sometimes it feels like him in that film. The Matrix is like the ball's coming two hundred and forty eight. Looks like it's GonNa slow motion what you're describing is exactly the same thing they see a little move and they can move. The was moved before you even knew that you exotic I think about all compact to the sacrifice and like if you asked some dealers may be done it for six months to the I never ever GonNa have it but if you look at them. It's always for me personally. The top top level boys is always done from a young ear. I think it's just when your brain's learning especially imprinted and I think you cut take thought nuts role unnatural belly in your brain so I think that's one thing that's been successful so far Making we've been doing it. You're only twenty we for sixteen and a half year Benton. Well I would say in my favorite type of people to speak with or spend time with. People ARE DRIVEN GOAL. Driven determined disciplined focused new schools. Get in one hundred percent urine. That got thank you so much thank you.

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Rumble in the Jungle - October 30, 1974

This Day in History Class

05:18 min | 1 year ago

Rumble in the Jungle - October 30, 1974

"The shop now and save up to six hundred dollars on the bed of your dreams this day in history class is a production of iheartradio everyone before the show I have to share the huge savings happening right now at mattress firm get a king bet for a queen price plus a free adjustable base with your qualifying purchase spirit of Fred Rogers Checkout Finding Fred of the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen in James Brown and Miriam Makeba performed in the series around eighty thousand people attended the concerts the fight began just after four am today it's October. Thirtieth Twenty Nineteen Day was October local time so it would be broadcast during prime time in the United States even though four men was favourite to win the fight Ali was more beloved in Africa Stadium and what was the in Kinshasa Zaire sixty thousand people attended the fight and it was the world's most watched live television broadcast at the time who agreed to host the fight in his country because he knew it would bring tourism and publicity he provided training facilities and venue for the fight it attracted around fifty million viewers on closed circuit television worldwide and pulled in around one hundred million dollars for men retired in nineteen seventy seven does he was stripped of it and suspended from boxing in nineteen sixty seven after refusing to comply with the draft boxing promoter Don King arranged a fight between though he later regained the world heavyweight championship at age forty five after losing his title in Nineteen Seventy eight regaining again months later Ali retired thirtieth nineteen seventy-four former heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali beat undefeated world heavyweight champion George Foreman in a fight at the twentieth of May heavyweight champion when he beat Joe Frazier Nineteen Seventy-three Ali was wants heavyweight champion too but Ali had been fighting for a chance to regain the title a to getting them to sign contracts for men was the favorite he had knocked down champion Joe Frazier six times in two rounds before he kayode him Ali spent more time out in the local communities and spoke to the press he later reflected that the fight was also about racial issues and about the relationship between black of a framework for professional boxing and Africa until nineteen seventy-three when the African boxing union was formed the president of Zaire Mobutu Sessa said insurance as a promoter both Ali and four men wanted five million dollars for the fight but king did not have that much money to put up. There wasn't much to win the championship and he beat Ken Norton in two rounds Ali on the other hand had lost a frazier in Norton the fight was one of Don Kings I list at this day at Iheartmedia Dot com hope he likes this show we'll be back tomorrow with another episode he ended up defeating Foreman and an eighth round knockout the fight one of the most famous matches ever

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Kevin Long talks SOB

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

45:27 min | 1 year ago

Kevin Long talks SOB

"Challenge people some of us though d._j. Nick one stop landed. Musica country star dondo set listening bruce jesse jackson. Hello everyone and welcome to a new episode of settlers bruce. Your podcast all about bruce springsteen his music and mostly as fans. I am your host jesse jackson and joining me tonight or today depending on when you're listening to this is one of by by podcast brothers <hes> part of the southgate media group. I've got kevin from the kevin long. Show with me. How are you doing. I'm good how are you. I am awesome. <hes> it's for those of you. You've been on the show before but everyone's podcast awed cast could be someone's first podcast so tell them a little about yourself case so i think this is my fourth time on the show i think so oh yes so i am kevin long and i'm the host of the kevin long. Show we do an episode on mondays i talking about magic items or magic spells from the dungeons and dragons game and on thursday. We have a more in-depth discussion discussion on dungeons and dragons in all its various forms and editions yeah <hes> some very interesting arresting stuff. You've done some creative things you know. Played games talked about different things one of my hole in my pop culture <hes> being is i have never really played dungeons and dragons. There's still time jesse. There's still time yeah <hes> you know. I get the concept and you'll see it on t._v. He i mean <hes> is zombie. Last season had the you know playing and you know and big bang theory and <hes>. I guess stranger things <hes> so yeah. I guess i'm going to have to jump on the <hes> horse visit about that so very cool. <hes> kevin has <hes> been a big supporter of settling bruce <hes> he has edited podcast outcast for me. He has always is one of the first to <hes> re tweet and share my post and so <hes> he is a wonderful <hes> husband and father <hes> usually his kids join us of so well and <hes> i look forward to <hes> when i'm on kevin show the the kids join us and they they share what's going on with them so it's always just wonderful full but tonight. We're gonna talk a little springsteen. Aren't we yeah we are so <hes> kevin reached out to me and he says he just see <hes> you know i'm a casual springsteen fan at best but i've watched his netflix special and i have thoughts so let's talk about that a little bit you you had like i said we've shared a few things <hes> you you actually went through the newbies right you listen to dead different springsteen songs <hes> so what would your thoughts going into when when you saw that they were going to film the broadway well. What did you heard about the broadway show so i've only heard about the broadway show on what you and your guests have talked about and you you went right. Yes i was lucky enough to go so that's that's what i've heard and that's what i knew about it and you had in some of the earlier shows you had hinted that you were hoping that netflix or one of these on demand streaming websites would would would pick this up and then the news broke that netflix was indeed doing it and i was really excited added about that just because i like to call it a documentary but i like stuff like that yeah being able to see i guess the closest thing i would have to it would be like v._h._1. <hes> behind the story or m._t._v.'s unplugged where you just get a more <hes>. What's the word i'm looking for. You just get a closer look at the people not just the the band and why they wrote the songs they did so. I like things like that yeah so <hes> how now obviously when i went <hes> i had a huge expectations when i went and saw it live live in <hes> obviously being a bruce springsteen <hes> fanatic <hes> i had no i you know i i was totally satisfied. You know it it. It met my expectations hi. What kind of expectations did you have given. I'm not on sure. I had any expectations like i was hoping for a good show. Okay that's fair enough. I don't like wasting my time yeah and and i definitely got a good show. <hes> and a little the expectation was a good show and add what i got was a phenomenal show yeah <hes> so <hes> when i went and saw it <hes> you know they they announce your please turn off your cell phones. <hes> please. I hope you know keep it quiet. They turn out the lights and all of a sudden bruce comes out and there's no good evening gene or how you doing. He immediately starts into the show right. I was really surprised by that and was kinda. Whoa this is not a concert. This is a show. What is your thoughts about it. I thought it was really great. I wasn't necessarily like everything. I've heard from bruce. He's a guitar guy so when he started on the piano. I was like oh this. This is different and yeah so i mean i'm. I'm not surprised that he has multi instrumental talents not something i was used to yeah but i would like to start at the beginning. Hey it's probably been a month or two now that you had a lady on your show and you talked about you talked about language and how how just because a person uses foul language doesn't mean you have to do it or that. That makes them a bad add person right. I had to start had to start this show three times because as soon as he dropped his first f-bomb the wife was like okay children. Yes absolute bad and husband. You probably shouldn't be watching this with the children around. Yes you know and that was my thought like hey look. This is obviously who bruce is going to have to deal with it and just because has bruce drops an f. bomb. The kitchen know that if i hear them drop enough bond. There's a bar soap in the bathroom. Yeah and you know we did have that discussion. Where where and that's how i trained train. That's how we raise. Chris is <hes> that's adult language and <hes> when you're an adult if you choose to use language like that that's fine but not as <hes> a child. That is an appropriate have you can't do it <hes> <hes> were you offended by it. I i don't think so just to each their own. Yeah and you know one of the things i i have really enjoyed. I think one of the reasons why <hes> you and i have developed this long distance friendship through this is you are by nature non-judgmental. <hes> you truly look for the best in everyone one. <hes> you are big believer in live and let live <hes> we have talked about <hes> people in alternate lifestyles. It's <hes> how <hes> we're supporting them. As much as we can. <hes> you know because we believe live and let live so i'm not surprised is by that but i had to ask right. Now it <hes> iris the story at one of the thoughts i had is how much of the story in his show was in his book so that's a great question and i'm glad had you brought it up. <hes> we there is in in theory kevin i could take the audio version of him reading his book and splice it with breath acoustical versions of the songs and it would give you the bones of most of the show okay but however he adds you know some drama to it and <hes> you know some the way he he reads some of them for emotional response. <hes> you know like he makes it funny when he talks about you know i'm mr born to run and i live blank miles from my <hes> born born to stay just doesn't work the same way you know and that's funny and then when he tells the story about going to the draft board and coming back and telling his parents that he didn't get selected and he told the story that his dad was like i can't wait to the army gets you can't wait to the army gets you and then when that actually happens their child he because that's good that's good and then when bruce very very quietly says but i often wonder who went in my place right that's that's touching and that's chilling and so forth there are so i guess the answer is some of the stories he shares in the book but the way he tells them in this makes them more dramatic. Does that make since yeah for sure okay. It's it's interesting that you brought up the part about going to the draft board and his thoughts on on who went in his place because i might have misinterpreted the story wrong but he said that he did everything he could to not get get drafted correct absolutely and he talked about that that he was glad that mad dog lynn mad dog lopez and the other other members that went with him did not get drafted but he does have that. I don't wanna say survivor's guilt because that's the wrong word right but i think he does have that guilt of you. Know someone someone someone had to go instead of me and what happened to that person and yeah go ahead no go ahead finish finish and so and i think that's one of the reasons why <hes> in the book he talks about <hes> reading the book born in u._s._a. And then meeting ron kovic <hes> and <hes> in how how he has done a lot of work with veterans and vietnam veterans and and supporting them and and raising money and <hes> the cynical person could say well. It's easy for a rich rockstar to do that in. Maybe he's just trying to pay off his guilt of not going. I think the other person is i think just because you have that guilt doesn't mean what you're doing isn't of consequences in isn't something good to do right so i guess my question is it's. I don't know it's important to me and i'm not gonna say that he wasn't that he's not a draft dodger. 'cause it's not what it sounded like to me but let's say that a person does draft dot draft the dodge dodge dodge the draft yes and spent his life thinking about those people that went in his place and works with veterans does everything he can and another person dodgers the draft and is just like screw you you guys would not the way of the way we look at people would not the way be the same lake jake. You both dodge the draft so y you know what i don't know how to explain it. No i and i think like <unk>. Get what i wondered about that because i think that's an interesting point. Kevon is <hes> you know like there are people well still to this day that are very unhappy about jane fonda because of how she was against the war and <hes> you know in vietnam is still very very <hes> you know an open wound and a lot of ways to this country right and <hes> and i have no <hes>. I have no problem if someone said <hes>. I you know i think this is you know he's he's. He's too little too late. If he was true man <hes> he should have done that and you know <hes> a <music> but things change like for the longest time mohammed ali under both spaces most host people's opinion are he is held in esteem that he refused to go even though he he he ended up it. It cost him several years of his professional boxing. <hes> and bruce had <hes> had it had a motorcycle accident <hes>. They're the reasons why were healthy. No <hes> but there is that you you wonder i don't know i i'm i'm. I'm older than you but i'm still too young to been in that situation. I don't know i've never been asked to serve. I've never been. I've never even registered for the draft. I was at that time period where you didn't have to interesting yeah <hes> <hes> yeah because i was born in fifty nine and they ended the draft and then started it back again but at that point i was too old for for it <hes> but you you wonder if i had been in that situation or if chris had been in that situation what would i wanted him to do right and it's very it was a very complicated implicated war <hes> versus <hes> you know so many people <hes> like after nine eleven and the amount of people who immediately <hes> you know signed up and and we're trying to <hes> to get revenge to protect this country then <hes> so oh versus you know vietnam was a very complicated war <hes>. I think that's an interesting point and i kind of i applaud that he addressed it right away. He addressed in the book and he addressed it on the play now with what he did do you do. You have a did you end up deciding one way or another. I have no problem with it <hes> okay. I honestly don't think that he's trying to make up for anything but <hes> i don't see like if someone presented more than just an opinion like well aw i don't think like i think he's trying like if they could show me how his actions now were trying to make up for guilt. I would at least entertain entertain that thought but i don't think he is okay interesting so <hes> going back to the show anything thing else stood out to you the story about when his dad came to the house right before he had his this kid you know given an apology in in his way <hes> and you know that stood out just like my dad was a truck driver my entire life and by the time we could actually spend time i am together he had already had his accident and was stuck in hospital bed for the rest of his life <hes> and and <hes> i thought it was interesting the you know it's very clear and if you read the book he talks a lot about his dad and how <hes> he you know his dad fought depression the same way he did <hes> and he understood that there was a lot of things going going on and do have him you know his dad and he talks about it right the said <hes> <hes> we weren't you're good to us and i wasn't always the best. <hes> you know in thanks in chris you know and then <hes> bruce says it was enough <hes> eh. That's a very powerful seen within yeah. It is yeah <hes> because i think we all <hes> we all have issues with our parents. <hes> whether we have a good relationship or poor relationship your parents it's a complicated <hes> relationship in you're going okay okay and and so i thought that was really interesting <hes> the in my father's house it's not a song i like very much and i mean i don't dislike it. Just isn't one of my favorites right and and my my buddy sam <hes> said <hes> and i saw the set list my father's house. I wish he'd do a different song and i said said i felt the same way till i watched the show and same thing i am not a fan of born in the u._s._a. With the slowdown blues version but in the show both of them work very well and when sam came back from seeing it he said you're right he said <hes>. I don't know if my opinion my father's house has changed but in that con- you know in that capacity of where it is in the show with the stories he's telling it was a perfect song to fit right yeah <hes> <hes> did you find it funny the story with his father no just the show and general terms. Oh yeah. I laughed a lot yeah. It was nice when when patty came out yes. I was gonna message today because there's this thing going on right now on facebook about how they'd been have been together for thirty five years when i first thought when i first saw it just just said patty and bruce oh great. They're getting divorced. I yeah <hes> you know and <hes> you could see see you know he. He really loves her and he does. I have no idea idea of what kind of marriage they've had. Though the book talks about how strong she's been to him uh-huh and how she has <hes> like he specifically mentions that <hes> you know rock star lifestyle you stay up late you get up late and patty said you're missing it. You're missing it in the morning morning when they're getting ready for school. You know that's when they're sharing things and you're you're just gonna miss it and you know he talked about. You know he changed changed. This pattern learn how to make pancakes <hes> so he really there in the morning and the other story he told his you know i know my views is talking to me and she said <hes> you can always write another song but you're you're the the kids are only going to be this age for a short amount of time. I think she has helped him <hes> and you know it appears. They've got three not really well. Adjusted <hes> successful children and i have a theory kevin that <hes> you know if you google <hes> waiting on a sunny day. He always has a little kid. Come up and sing with them and i'm thinking that's because he's ready to be a grandpa. He is ready needs to be papa bruce nah he might be. Yes any other songs are story. Stand out to you so i've heard dancing in the dark a lot in iraq. That's probably i mean aside from born in the u._s._a. That's how i know bruce sure and there is something different about how he closed the show in singing that song i've never gotten goosebumps before from dancing in the dark kevin this time hype that was another song that as i saw the set lists you know i i guess dancing in the dark orcas good but at that point and for those of you who am i kidding anyone who's listening to this podcast this watched it but just the game <hes> you know he's talking about being kind to each other and <hes> he doesn't go into the current administration but he's talks about <hes> that it's tough times and we could be <hes> you know pushing and and being challenged and he had talked about earlier <hes> and when i saw him they heated not talk about his mother's <hes> alzheimer but in the this show they recorded he shares that and <hes> and there's that scene where he says on the wish you'll know me in a glance and then he says you'll know me when you realize she doesn't know him now <hes> and he he talks about how much she loved music zik and she loved dancing and then when he says in so what you gotta do is like my mom put on your shoes and dance and when he goes into dancing in the dark i agree with you. I am getting a little miss. The i just now talking to you and then land of hope and dreams is one of my favorite songs and to go from dancing in the dark straight to land of hope and dreams <hes> it's just an any close with born to run but that to to certain degree is the end of the show right and it is i agree with you. It is a powerful powerful way to end the show of and i'm gonna sound overly <hes> dramatic here in preachy but the power and of of of music the power of love the power of dance the power of of this art <hes> he celebrates that and it is just a really really cool thing to say. I'm glad you felt the same way and i think i guess i said i've heard it lots of times but maybe this time the power came from the fact that the song is about being gene good to each other. He you know go to bed late. Get up late. I worked a graveyard so oh i get home at nine o'clock in the morning and i'm ready to go to bed like i wake up feeling the same way say yes but if somebody needs something even at nine o'clock in the morning when i'm ready to go to bed let's let's go help the people next door jump their car or move out of their house or whatever they need 'cause this guns for hire even or just dancing in the dark mark well said and i agree <hes> i had some friends who were divorced and they would often complain that they didn't get to see their kids enough because the other you know their their former spouse had custody and <hes> and i would bring it up and then like wow now i worked all week. I'd have to drive you know. I'm gonna drive six hours siham two or three in dr another six. I don't know if it's worth it and i just i kept my mouth shut because it wasn't my place when i'm like yes yes. We're parents. We sacrifice to see our kids. You delay going to you get less sleep because your home but you've got a kid. Who's sick and you gotta take care of them. Kevin right right you. You do those things <hes> to help out because that's the kind of person you are and that's the kind of you know neighbor. You are the kind of parent you are and we all should be that way. Yeah yeah we should yeah do <hes> and <hes> any other thoughts. I think those are all the thoughts. I have on the show. That's that's that is. Well said <hes> very nice summary. So do you think you'll revisited visited sometimes. Is it still on netflix. Yes it is yes probably all right so very cool. I am looking afford to <hes> now. I know it is very hard to get to the movies <hes> when so you've got little ones that doesn't involve you know a talking <hes> penguin or something <hes> but when it's available i think the uh and <hes> blinded by the light the book that's the movie that's based on. <hes> you know <hes> buried ashbury park hark about a pakistani ian raised in <hes> u._k. That discovered bruce springsteen and helped him to find his way <hes> <hes> is is coming out this summer and i think it's gonna be amazing. I i've seen the previews it absolutely <hes> seems to be how his music <hes> help the sky to touch. I ended up reading the book and the book's really about finding minding his place in the world. Okay as growing up in the united king you know his his parents emigrated from pakistan he was like three or four when he got here so he grew up in <hes> you know england but with a pakistani background trying to figure out who and what he is and how does he fit in <hes> really interesting book and i'm looking forward to <hes> the movie so i ah i can find the book in the library and all all go see if i can find a trailer as soon as we're done yeah absolutely yeah if you just go blinded by the light or bruce springsteen steve movie. You'll see it so kevin. What else do we want to catch up on while we're here well. That's a good question. Why do we chris's mary now. Yeah yeah well actually <hes> i have not talked about this too much on the air but <hes> about a month before the wedding and he came to me and said <hes> dad i'm having doubts and <hes> you know he he had really <hes> had been working with <hes> a therapist and <hes> really suggested that he and his fiancee go to counseling and <hes> not pointing fingers but they both decided that maybe this was a bad choice and so he's <hes> he's down living back at home <hes> they've kind of separated in each gone in their own way and so he's kind of finding his own path right now <hes> yeah it's <hes> i'm really proud of him kevin because it a month into the month before the wedding really been easy just to say this is cold feet you know just plunge away but both of them discuss this in came to the decision <hes> that they had too many issues <hes> on both sides to think this would be a successful relationship so they've each he's gone their own way and it's a little sad because i really liked his fiancee but i'm proud of both of them for making the the decision. <hes> you know how hard it is to be married right and that's i'm. I'm proud of both of them as well just because like we talked about a minute ago the sacrifices that we put forth for each other and i'm i think you said it before on the show before that some days you give more than you get and other days. You get way more than you. Give and you both have to be ready for that. Yeah you do and and you have to understand that it's never got fifty fifty and sometimes it's going to be ninety ten with your at the ten percent right and you've got to be comfortable with that so <hes> yeah <hes> thanks for asking he's. He's doing okay <hes>. I'm i'm proud of him for kind of working and through this so it just gives you a partner to go with when the the new album goes on tour absolutely so so <hes>. Is there gonna be a tour with the new. I'm sorry i don't remember the name of the album. No no no <hes>. The name is western stars right right. It's very <hes> glen campbell burke back correct <hes> it's it's a it's really worth listening to on spotify by <hes> to kind of check it out. It's it's got a lot of strings hill. He's not touring on this. One by the thought is his and he has announced that he has almost a full album's worth of material written for the actual eastern band okay and so they plan to what he has said is. The plan is later this year like in the fall. They'll work on recording an album mm-hmm and then tour next year okay so just because i don't i like music are down into the inner works so <music> this fall. They'll make a new album and let's just say it's called blue sky over the horizon okay and then next year build the old tour that album yes yeah and what he normally does is <hes> the first part part of the tour he will do multiple songs from that album to promote the album. Did he'll go to europe and then normally he comes back to europe then he'll do. Maybe maybe australia <hes> you know the different <hes> places and then usually come back and do a second round in the u._s. S. and by that time he's not playing as many songs off the new album he tends to mix up the set lists a little bit okay <hes> yeah so so the hope is that a couple of songs on this new album will make the cut. I think there's some really interesting. <hes> there's a song song called. <hes> tucson trained that i like a lot <hes> the premise is <hes> the guys talking about he he had he had messed stop he had really disappointed his partner and <hes> he or she because you know they they don't they don't say in the song <hes> that <hes> they he he left any move a to a different city to redeem himself to rebuild his life and <hes> and so the the songs is <hes>. I'm waiting for my baby. She's coming on the tucson train and <hes> that in one of the lyrics alex. Is that <hes> you know where he said. I'm specifically <hes> i will. I can show her that. A man can change <hes> so yeah. Is this hard work or clear your mind and body eighty. The heart son will burn out the pain if they're looking for me. Tell them buddy. I'm waiting down at the station. Just praying to the five fifteen gene. I'll wait all god's creation justice show her a man can change now my baby's coming in on the tucson train so so <hes> it's a very fun picked up song <hes> if you google it. There's a video of him playing it with a not the eastern band but a different different band <hes>. That's a lot of fun to look at it cool yeah so that's what that's what they'll probably do <hes> i. I think <hes> just the other night <hes> a <hes> gary talent who is the bassist on eastern band has a new album that's due out and he opened for southside johnny <hes> down at <hes> in asbury park mark <hes> and bruce joined him for one song and then <hes> when southside johnny came out <hes> at one point he said well you know let's bring the boss out here and so- bruce did like seven songs with him as a mini kind of set list <hes> <hes> you know people kind of think they always hope that he'll show up but he hasn't longtime so so the people were there were thrilled that they got kind of a little bonus <hes> concert and so but the the thought is he's got that each dow that he's <hes> he's ready to tour. <hes> you know a theory a lot of us had god was one of the reasons he stated broadway so often is to be close to his mom while she's <hes> you know fighting fighting the alzheimer so but yeah i think i think he's getting the itch and he's ready to get back <hes> as he jokes about his day job and do that so yeah. So how about you. Do you have any conventions coming up appearances. You're going to be visiting and seeing convention wise. There's one in august <hes>. It's just a little a little utah thing. It's called <hes> assault con <unk> into summer okay. There's a new one in october. That's coming to provo and i'll just be helping do some d._n._d. Stuff i'm hoping to have a booth of my own at the fair con- that's at the end of october actually the beginning of october this year <hes> and and it's it's kind of like i can't remember the name of the one that you go to or promote the one in austin that halloween and and fair and all that good stuff okay well very cool nice and so are the kids having good summer yeah. They are very very nice having a good summer they've got two of them are in gymnastics. One of them's about to start ballet. That's that's always interesting. I really like you'd never never known the two older kids because when they were around <hes> we weren't podcasting but i'm gonna be a grandpa very nice. How exciting yeah so you. You have a pink pink floyd playlist ready for the new grandchild that you can <hes> since that's <hes> do bet. I know that's where you're that is very cool winner winner. They do <hes> at the end of the year very cool very nice. Well good <hes> well well. Kevin is always love catching up with you <hes>. It's it's. It's always a lot of fun. I i appreciate your friendships <hes> more more than you could know you are a source of light and positively out in this world and i know that you have have a giving and understanding heart <hes> and are out there trying to make a difference and so i appreciate it <hes> if someone wants to listen to the podcast give us the names talker and how can they find you on twitter so they can find the podcast on any <music> podcasting catcher. It's called the kevin long show and if you don't have it on your prescribed. Podcasting network just hit us up on twitter at the kevin long s. h. One and robin. I will get you that podcast as soon as we can. I <hes> i work with rob on one of his projects and twenty minutes after i did something he told me to do somebody was on twitter is like hey. This is the podcast provider us and i can't find your show anywhere twenty minutes later. They had the show awesome so great. If you can't find us let us know either on twitter. You can also email us at the kevin long show at g. l. dot com or we're on facebook at the kevin long. Show yes and you if you have topics. They want you want to discuss or you wanna <hes>. You have some ideas. Please let kevin know. He loves to hear from listeners. <hes> i you want to share your springsteen story or any favorite musician. <hes> let me know send me an email at settlers brusett gmail.com you can <hes> i'm on twitter at jesse jackson d._f._w. 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TOMTalks 12: Fight Rock! Discussion

Southern Tomfoolery Plays

1:01:33 hr | 4 months ago

TOMTalks 12: Fight Rock! Discussion

"Welcome back my beautiful babies to another episode of Tom Talks I'm your host. Heath Parker Voice of Titanium Mike on Southern. Tomfoolery is main. Show the Apollo Protection Agency. I'm joined as always by my brother and pods and are dedicated GM Adam Kelly. How are you today? My man doing pretty good pretty good. Thanks for asking yeah. So today is a special episode of Tom Talks as it's the first episode of Tom Talks in which our guest is not a cast member. We have with us today, a friend of the podcast and our newest pass Powell Brian Fuchs, or as those of you in our discord may know him old scratch Johnson. House the day treat new Brian. Today is treated me pretty darn well I would say, and it's even better because I'm about to start drinking so. I just cracked my first beer evening as well. Well well, what's what's been going on today? You guys just been chilling work. Yeah had to work today. Lose Day at work. then. I had a good weekend which was yesterday. House the probably in business. It's sweet. Josh. What? What about you I? So, I'm a PhD student, and so for me. Work comes in waves, and recently I've been looking at the big, the big tall wave of getting ready to propose or my thesis so but had some meetings with some people who are GonNa be on my committee at today, and it got more scheduled for later in the week. It's all going. Pretty smoothly. All things considered. Yeah. That's this seems like a really good idea than to take on this new project. That we're here. Thank you for taking on this project because that's a that's a hell of a wave to Chris. But I faith facing the Brian. You can do just fine. Congratulations on the progress you've made and are making in your. Thank you. Yeah. I did not work today. I've been chilling getting ready for Tom Talks and listening to a bunch of unknown mortal orchestra. Yet you listen to them, I never heard of them before. Is that they're they're really. Adam would probably be better at describing their sound than either. They're really pleasant. Yeah, it's like. I duNno, it's like prog funk, but it's not either of those now. Like it's. Like there's funk elements to in there. It's like it's like. It's hype. That's what it is for sure as it. BANGS. Even, that is like hard to say because like they're very smooth a lot of time and like. It's a weird like pleasantness with an undertone of darkness. But very like. A lot of electron ick sounds, but they're quite obviously a band, not like a an idiom group. They're I like I I've been familiar with like four or five of their tracks just from from work and other places and today like was just listening to random songs, one of their their songs I want do more work on getting familiar with them, so I just went to the the classic spotify. This is unknown. Mortal Orchestra and just started that from the beginning and listen for like an hour defined any new walkout music among. They're not. They're not what I would ever use for walkout music. And Not for boxing. Avalanche said it's funny. I've made a joke. Lots of times like if I heath had walkout music for like. Boxing or wrestling or something like that would be the flu. 'cause they're just super hype and before that it was. Lettuce. The funk band lettuce. Are you familiar with any of those vans? Brian not at home. Nope, we were you learned today. Looks like we got some extra homework on top of all this for you. This, List. playlist is something absolutely I'll listen. Cool. Again, thanks for being here Brian like I said it's I. It's been a non cast member, but this is a special occasion because we're unveiling a new project for our patriotic. In the team. Well. That's why we made him part of the team. So we made the announcement several days ago, that Brian would be joining the rank of Paso Powell as a friend of and contributor in some form or fashion to southern Tomfoolery. We let the mystery behind that decision simmer and build for a couple of days because we just can't pass up an opportunity to build a little drama or tension. And then we just announced their new patriarch. Project titled Titanium Mike's Fight Rock. which will allow patrons to make or select a boxer and participate in a boxing match against Tasmania Mike at Personally I'm super excited about this as you would expect. And? Get into some detail surrounding fight rock in a bit but. I was GonNa I. Give Brian kind of an opportunity as our newest. Contributor to the pied to tell us a little bit about yourself you you tell us your a PhD student. Yeah, so a I'm so right now I'm in basically in Atlanta. Technically I'm in Roswell Georgia, which is a northern suburb of Atlanta but I'm originally from Iowa grew up there. Most of my life moves. Move Down here maybe four or five years ago and I guess. In terms of my involvement with tabletop. RPG's like this actually don't play too many of them, but I've developed an enthusiasm for t t, RPG podcasts and I met the southern Tomfoolery guys at Dragon Con last year. In fact, my first username drop was in. Tom Talks for I. Believe Your Post dragging con one. I give them a gift. I have it right here. As well. That was actually going to be my next question was. How did you come to learn about? Southern Tomfool joined the community and I already knew of course that we met you at dragon con but I was Gonna Let. Your Adam chime in and kind of tell that story. I mean we're a glass? Live right. Yep Yet We think so me, and my brother made custom shirts for that one different references to the show, and I think it was actually emily that tapped either me or him on the shoulder in asked about the the shirts. And then that started off a whole conversation. Guys told me about southern Tomfoolery and we had a little bit of back and forth. What your podcast was about in everything and then fairly soon after dragging connoisseur listening regularly. Was it one of a believe Adams told me the story recently was it? Was it Brian or or one of Bryant's friends? Kind of. Made you reevaluate how you would pitch the podcast? Oh it was. It was definitely Brian. He he you know we were still early on in like trying to get this out. You know beyond just our friend group. You know I think this point we had been a podcast for. Three months four months. Something like that. Still Pretty early and still figuring it all out and. Dragon con was our first big like. Go to a con to kind of promote this and to go to a com because we had never been to before and. We know. We printed a bunch of buttons and Kennedy's and just. All out. It was great because we started up a bunch of conversations with a bunch of people, but When I was kind of pitching it to Brian He. Said Okay I mean there's there's a lot of actual play podcast out there. You know what what is it in particular about yours? You know what is your flavor that should make. It got to the top list or something like that I can't remember exactly what you said, but it was along those lines. And I realized they didn't really have an answer for that. You know at the time I mean. I came up with one on the spot and. See work. Okay but it. Yeah! Definitely made me think about it and be like okay. So what is going to be the thing that that makes it makes it us you know and. Here we are. If it makes you feel any better, I. Had taken a least one shot of fireball, probably two or three before we talked, so I can't remember what your answer was either but Good enough you know here, I am now so. I it was funny, because at that show I had such a different experience because I barely talked to anybody for the whole show 'cause I was so hung over from the day before that I like made myself going like. Take a shot and then nurse a couple of beers, the whole time and I sat on the farthest outside seat, so I was like God some of the other. STF people are doing some networking right now. Fortunately I ended up giving away probably way too many buttons. We'll still have too many buttons so like I think you're fine, okay? So Brian you said you. You don't have a lot of experience actually playing T. RPG's. How have you played any and all? Yeah, so I've played a little bit of five. The I'm actually in a five game right now, what guy. It's a homebrew from a friend. Yeah, she said it up when all the shelter in place started. Very cool, so we have a weekly game for that and then. It's mainly been five E. G. M. Two couple of sessions. Oh, I did GM like some of the beginning sessions for Pathfinder second edition and I. Do have one upcoming. I'm very excited for next week I'M GONNA have run an introductory session for Delta Green. which is a nice yeah. I don't know anything about dealt degree, but I've heard a lot of people getting really excited about it. Oh, I love it, so it's called. Cathy Lou based in the modern era. So I really enjoy mystery horror says like the stuff that comes in your internet slash, fiction, style and Delta. Green fits right into. It has all the conspiracy theories eldridge horrors? It's great. Nice. That'd be a lot of fun well as far as five I know, there's a lot of people out there. What would the addition wars and brand loyalty and everything that would give you a Lotta Shit for that, but not here. Not here STF that's that's our roots. No, that's where we came from. And I mean it is great for getting it like especially. Someone like you who you said you have played a lot of T. RPG's five great for that I mean it's. Great for like getting into it, and then maybe moving on stuff like Catholic, Pathfinder, Star or whatever. Have you played a? You haven't played any star, finder. Like the one dining kind does they're like the GM's come in and run the introduction introduction sex sessions all right. Yes, sir, enough like that and. It's Tom Talks. And so I played like I played one of those areas. Okay. I need to get you in a star for. We do the best. We can try to push the star. Find thing like we're in a large community of like Tiso. People, we really try to push the star finder product in general and like. Their, they have their flaws and nitpicks that people have about him or whatever, but I'm really excited the end of this month. They've got so much content coming down. There dealt with a lot. Yeah, and they've got some really cool upcoming adventures and stuff that we're all excited about so eventually. What to get you something man. Look forward to it. So you're. Obviously quite adept at game mechanics I was GONNA. Ask was this your first time. Doing the the you know supplementing our kind of boxing game. This is the first time you've done a supplementary game system like that or have you had experienced messing around with stuff like that before? No this was the first, and really it was like you guys lay down the groundwork for it What was the first episode where the system was first match? Do you remember? Notes going to be. In this going to be like in the forties. We got we got back to opposite and thirty nine It was the first fire. I says why like forty two okay? Make sense because I know the third fight was number. Was Episode Fifty Two now in Special By the. After listening to it, there's a lot of discussion on the discord about it and I just like this is I was honestly. Blown away really by the way that you created a made this exciting kind of semi narrative system. To to do a boxing match that didn't devolve into Mike Punches and then boobs, and then what was the first one the other guy punches and then moves? Right well that that was really what we wanted to avoid. We wanted the whole reason. We made the thing we didn't want to do that. I mean it really came out of our love for like. If we can't find interesting way to our P, this will like. Let's FORCI cells to build a game and make it make it a game and bring some level of our piano. That will also to kind of like. Respect boxing, too. Because boxing is more than just slugging it out like it's a little sweet science, maybe yeah, like and so like I wanted it to be more than just a brawl of because there's some technique to, and so that's also reflected in having this little mini game and plus this. was just making mini game. which is do it. Right! Do that. And to your point like I mean boxing with a capital. B., I guess is not street finding. Right that's that's why rocky five sucks and we don't talk about it. This is not about boxing street finding an alternate. Well, yeah again I want to thank you. Probably thank you fifteen times before the night is over Brian, but we're. We're all superpower. OPT for the work. You've done on our new Patriot project, so we already started to dip our toes into it, so I was GONNA say. Why don't we jump into talking about the basics of how this whole project came about? And and then later we'll get into like what it is exactly in some of the details. Yeah so I'll start by saying a few weeks ago. After recording session of our main show, I mentioned to a couple of the cast members that had the idea for Patriot supporters to be able to Vox Mike since we had made his professional boxing background, such a staple of the show. So you know I? I want to applaud Adam for having the courage to to take the risk of incorporating a boxing many game in the first place I mean ultimately it's his decision. What doesn't go into the show? And he was the one that came up with the idea of having the boxing tournament on outpost said. And to be honest, I was really surprised that he wanted to go in that direction, but. More importantly deviate from some of the more written aspects of the books of against the throne to accommodate something. He knew as important to me in my character. So that was really cool and then. As we said like it kind of came out of a place of not wanting to have. A boring. RPI or description of of fighting and to do it a little bit of service. So I believe whenever you pitched the idea to me. It was like what the day before we were supposed to have the. Night before and you're. Like what we you know we started talking about. Why don't we figure out like some way to roll? Dyson? Do this instead of. Pint pint a jumped in excel started like putting some number two together, but I needed you to like. Tell me what the boxing moves were like how they work in which should do more damage, and all that kind of stuff in like we not banged that thing out that night, and then like did what three different matches that night before we? The first match took us an hour and a half to do. I was like Ooh I don't think we can put this in the upset, but. We were still figuring it out in like every. Move that we did was very meticulous and like okay. This is how this works or whatever, but we ended up getting it down to what I think forty five minutes and like. Something! We can, we can do this. We can get it in there, you know. How many rounds did we do in the boxing tournament? Well just out of curiosity rounds, but like. Most of them ended. All one six. No, the last one went six right. Now didn't did not go six. Maybe five four or five. Yeah okay, but they were intended to be six matches. Yet what but it was just funny to me like he brought that idea the night before and we both just like got into. We're like yeah, let's do and fortunately for both of us I'm already a big fan of boxing anyways, but also I was a big fan of the fight night. Boxing game so I had a little bit better grip on Mike how to look at these things in times of statistics right now. And in in those games let me like it you have. X. Amount of punches, but like in those games you can add points into those punches to make them more powerful and stuff like that, so I at least was like. Not Hesitant to jump into like making it a game or Not a video game kind of thing, but making it a game of some kind well, we got it out and we got the rough first draft out for that. I fight and Brian You. You heard it in decided to run with it. Basically I remember like after the episode Game Out, I think. I. I I really. I love the fact that there was there and then I just thought, but at the same time that that first version of it is pretty basic, it's role the highest score you know by the highest punches you can and then do your defense as well. In so I thought that there might be a way to make it a little bit more strategic if you. A different moves in into it things that incorporated not just having to buy damage essentially, but an incorporating risk as well or if you fail that there is going to be, there's going to be a punishment for you, and that's for example where the. That's where some of those moves came out of. Riley. Maker haymaker in straight counter. The biggest, but like a adds drama to the match. You know what I mean like. You said it gives the puts a risk to it and gives you options as soon as there's options, and there's different ways to play, you know. When that that's what makes it. A more balanced, but a more interesting game as well as like not everybody's not working on the same. Just dice rolls like their other stats and factors that. Can make one boxer better at things than another. That I. think that's what you guys have been working on now for this irritation. We're still working on Iran. But. Yeah, so anyways you. You gave us this new rule. Set Right. This version to. We took that into fight, too, but we didn't get to like fully explore because that fight was rigged in. You know in to go back to your point earlier Ethan in. The boxing tournament in itself gave me. A story to tell during that week where you're supposed to be stocked by the REP toyed, you know what I mean, and so like I didn't. It's too obvious if all of those events happen back to back to back right? Okay so like to stay to and Ziva. Has An issue with her chamber now. Okay, then we get together and accessions. It's now day five, and this you know I wanted something to fill in the spaces. That, could you know? Working Serve As a distraction and Say That in a demeaning way. No, like like intentionally some cover for this operative to work in. You know what I mean and. It was. It was very mutual mutually beneficial vert to give you an opportunity to explore that side of your character and also. Like really I mean we really made book three are? Would that we? The first two books took us like nineteen to twenty episodes to do. The third book doubled that yeah. Well which is. That I've said in the past like I'm super proud of because I wanNA stretch. One of my only kind of nitpicks with star finder is that I do feel like a move so much faster than pathfinder just I haven't played pathfinder, but based on the podcast of listen to write. Like. You're on the books. Themselves are shorter. Yeah. I relish any opportunity to stretch it out then I can find. I did what I was Brian. Though sets you. At the time weren't even Paso Pal, you listener and you helped the boxing game or whatever, but as listener and I guess this is going to come off as me fishing for compliments. How. How did how did you think the addition of the boxing tournament? Worked out like D did vibe with you as listener. Do you think it was a successful as we perceive it to be? Absolutely I mean. It's. I asked Adam rate the question that we talked about like what makes your podcast special and to be million able to add an entire section that? Focuses on one characters development, and but also in a way that advances the story and in some ways is. I mean I don't know how many non homebrew podcasts would ever think to do that. And so on top of that to the fights themselves were exciting adamant he did a great job building up the hype for each fight kind of continuing it through the music and the actions, and the things that all the characters were saying So I mean. If I didn't like it I would have probably just written off. The rules milica they'll do. They can do their thing and I'll just come back to it when they finished with the with the matches, but No it was great. I'm glad that co because we were really excited about it. There's a certain degree of like when you're inside of it. It's hard to be objective. I mean I think adamant. I particularly always looking for like what did you guys think? Because, we think it's cool, but it's possible we could be wrong. We're not perfect, but I think we had a lot of fun with and at to your point I. Think what? made it as much of a success as It was, and we think it is is like you said it didn't. It did a lot of progress. Mike's backstory, but it moves the story forward for the entire Party as well. And that's a hard balance to to reach I mean good job Adam. At being able to incorporate that atom also is like. Self described as a person who. To a degree likes to run the books as written so he when when He. But that's when it comes to like the the. The rules I. Guess United I mean like we'll. We'll tear apart the story all day long. and. Make it around, but like I wanNA I. WanNa play it by the books I wanted to be fair like I want the dice. To matter you know what I mean and I also want there to be like an understood these. This is the system that we're working in you now in that you're making your decisions around consistent. System! But as far as the story like. The mini. Obviously I've rewritten major chunks of. Of A lot what we're playing so not. To hold onto that other than it's nice to have the guide because I don't have a forty hours a week to. Story the way I'd WanNa write a story you know. But anyway. So the boxing, we all loved it and decided that. You know he'd had this idea that he wanted to extend it. As a way to engage the listeners even further. You know what I mean and. So wrought. Fight. Rock was born. Right well, and now that we've kind of covered the history of like how the? Game came to be a thing boxing mini game. I was GONNA. Say, let's talk about. A little bit about what that thing actually is going to look and feel like. Adamant Brian feel free to jump in and help me out with any details. I may overlook right. So as I said in the announcement or as Adam announced a titanium Mike's Fight Rock will be available to people at the ten dollars tier of Patriae on after three months of Patriots, support. Right and that does go back as well right, if yeah, right nice. If you've already been for three months, you're already on a eligible for a fight and. I will say as a caveat to that to anybody who's currently a patron, but wants to upgrade to tune will count you. As, your three months as well. You know if you've been been with us for three months, but then going forward anybody that comes in has come in at that ten. Right, but we'll grandfather our. Existing patrons if they choose to upgrade. I mean that's really cool. Like that's flexible and and I know with a project like this. The the people that'll be excited about it are going to WanNa do it as soon as they can. So for those people that are getting grandfathered like. Merry Christmas, my dude like. That's the thing is like. Let's go ahead and get it out of the way the top that. This isn't until September. First is when will be start scheduling the first fight, so they're still development to be done, but we wanted to give people an opportunity to work towards that three month now our developing it, you know what I mean instead of waiting until it's done, and so we'll like you know so anyways. That's the kind of logistics of the timing this and how that piece of it or work. You know right when Mike Adams, said it all. Go live so to speak September first. and. That's because like it to be honest. Being Brian are still very much in a play testing phase of this thing. We've done a few matches, but we want to do several more and play around with some of the mechanics and and character creation stuff. Yeah. So what can you talk to me a little bit about what that looks like a me? Say Character Creation. Can you give me kind of over what you're thinking for this? Yeah so. The idea is If you're a Patriot supporter for three months, you will be eligible to. Make character and box titanium Mike Right. That's that's the fun part of, but. With character creation. You're going to have some options right so. I. Think we are going to provide some guidelines, and like some toned-down character creation guides for when you do this thing because the the simple fact of this project is. This is a mini game. This is not an A. P.. This is not playing the game proper so. People are GonNa have to understand that. There is going to be a certain amount of limitation. They comes with this thing, right? On top of that too I mean not everyone's coming in with a lot of character creation experience, and that can take a lot of time, even if you have helping things like here lab or any of the other programs that are out there so and not everyone who gets a chance to be part of this many game maybe wants to spend all that time on it, and so by making the guidelines making me this tone down waiver, hoping to make this more inviting for. People to be part of the project. Right and they will have another option as well. Yes. They were GONNA have a couple of pre generated characters as well. That people can choose from to to box and will try to give him like some different backgrounds, different races should be able to find what you're looking for, even if you're not making a character. So, yeah, it sounds sounds pretty slick can mean. What, if Can. You give us a little little teaser? Taste of what some of the options might be. Short So there's. Some of the characters are probably going to be a little bit more strength based. They're putting the NBA. Throw more punches per round. Some of them will be a little bit more defense, or Maybe, they'll have higher constitution scores more hit points. We're looking at maybe incorporating some other mechanics into it regarding feet or a race or class that. People pick, but does are still in development at the moment. Go Co I I do know. we. We still have, to build. A few more pre generated characters and kind of the idea that I had discussed with Brian is to have. Maybe five or six pre generated characters, so if you don't feel like spending the time to create a character, which is completely understandable for something that you're only going to get to do one time, have it. Like you're in the menu of a street fighter game, and you can pick five or six different options that their flavor fits the kind of thing. You want to do as far as build or just the kind of of race. Build combination that you'd like to have I know one of them that Brian has played around with as a A. An android right. Joint operative. I'm planning on building, definitely a half work of some kind. and. We're also looking at a maybe an uplifted bear, but like I said we've still got to build several more pre generated characters that we do want to have some fun races and stuff in there. Cassava is another one must playing around with which is like has such interesting implications for boxing having forearms. Well I can't I. personally can't wait to see what you guys come up with I know that you're still still working on some things I know a couple of things you working on, but we're GONNA keep it behind the curtain for now what from the boxing? That's been on the show? Can we expect? I mean we're GONNA? Is it GonNa be just run like the same rules that are on the show? Have you developed? Have you guys developed anything beyond that? I'll take this one so it's going to be. The base game is definitely going to be very similar to what everyone heard in episode fifty two. with a similar set of punches and defense moves, but We're looking at adding so I. Recently wrote up the idea for fatigue system like if you lose a certain amount of hit points, maybe your punches start becoming less effective And we're also like a lot of I think a lot of the variety might come in some of the character options that we're looking at as well We'll kind of see how this develops over the next month. He I have a lot of play testing to do But I think it's going to be a little bit more fleshed out than what you heard in fifty to. Go CUCKOO, cuckoo. So He. I I'm I'm a patron been patron for three months. September I WANNA schedule of a fight with you. What can I expect from that experience? Overall so September first when this thing goes live, we'll look at our list of patrons. Who are eligible and I will start sending out. Some communications with them to try to organize it. And it'll because we're. Factor in that, some of the people are going to want to create their own characters. It's going to be obviously kind of difficult to like I. Reach out to you. We do the boxing match the next day so. We'll have to organize times and be a little bit flexible with that, but we'd like to get. You know what one a month or two done. Would is kind of the goal. We're shooting for right now. So at at that pace we could probably hopefully knock out our our backlog within a few months, but yeah, what a like is I'm GonNa. Reach out and and getting communication with the people on the list. Find out whether. What they're looking like time wise. And find out whether they want to create a character, or if they just want to check out the Prejean, and then we're going to have Mostly courtesy of Brian some deliverable documents that give you kind of the guidelines in like what you need to worry about for character creation, and what? You don't need to worry about because. The fact is the game's not going to incorporate. Every. Skill that there may be right. So kind of tone down. CARE character creation process to streamline it a little bit, and then once we do. We're GONNA. Organize a time. I was going to let Brian. Tell us what your role in this thing is going to be because you're gonNA. Get on a call. Discord. Call I'm assuming with me and Brian to do this match now. You're going to be fighting. Titanium Mike Right so, what are you doing, Brian? I'm there to be the REF and the announcer for the match so I will be kind of taking a lesser version of atoms role in the previous fights I'm just here to make sure that the players know what's going on that. We're moving through things correctly, and I'm also there to I'll have a little bit of intro music for each character Give them the boxers announcement. Everything like that. Well also. Judges. yeah, so we're working on codifying the judging system to make sure they kind of fits in with the boxing rules as well and I think we got a pretty good setup at the moment i. don't WanNa reveal too much, but I think. The if the matches don't go to knockout then we'll. We'll have a pretty good way of picking out the winner for that fight. Right and and like I said we're. We're keeping a little bit under wraps because we don't want to. We started play testing a lot. We don't want to. Reveal something, and then ended up changing it just well. We also love to build a mystery. This this is true, I. I will say that we have play tested a few times and. Like Bryan, said we. We have worked on a system for judges to fights. Go the distance right that that is fair and incorporates the numbers of the thing as opposed to just Brian San who he thinks is the winner right? Because if I WANNA stay hired, I'd have to pick heath every time and so. I'm not in China that my man. We've split that, so you don't have conflict of interest there. He didn't. He hasn't hired. That's my role. That's what I'm serving and this is the arbiter. Right I that's. Scary. But to to that I will say as far as some of the more like numbers related stuff that what we're looking at is. Seventh level. Characters seventh level fighters, and that is obviously because Mike in the fiction of the story is currently seven th level, but we're not going to continue to progress that with Mike's Level Right, so do wanNA. Talk a little bit about what? Kind of my ideas were for. The fiction of this thing right because I'm sure we would inevitably get some questions about like Oh. What is this cannon right? So Titania Mike Fight Rock In my mind takes place in A. An alternate timeline where after the events of against a on thrown Mike. Finale right right the timeline. Yeah, sprite Mike Decides not to go. Into Who further. Measures Right he he decides I want to get involved with fighting again. So we were caught at fight rock because the idea that we had which I think is a lot of fun. Is that Mike instead decides to purchase a small asteroid out in the diaspora and build a boxing arena and host boxing fights kind of like like my inspiration for that idea was the UFC because of all the corona virus stuff. And and you know regulations and safety fighting in the United States. They said okay. We'll screw it. We'll just by island. And we'll call it. Fight Island and they I don't think they ended up buying island, but they made a deal in Abu Dhabi and have. Out there that they're hosting all these fights on, so I was like. Yeah, let's do that, but like in space. Raw Fife accent so that that's the fiction of the thing. It's like we're. We're in an alternate time line now where Mike is sort of A. Boxing promoter slash fighter, you know. So does that like still have all the memories from. On? Yeah I think he probably does, but I think it doesn't matter. Because we're not going to be talking about it fair enough. I don't think there's going to be a lot of time for other fighters to be like you know so. How much time do I get with you to find gentlemen? Per Session, so we won't be the fight. Be Six round fight Think those be take somewhere between an hour hour and a half, and then a little bit of time before and afterward so get somewhere between an hour and a half in two hours to hang out with us and to do this fight. Right I think we're GONNA just like block off basically two hours. Because like the fight itself could be anywhere from an hour an hour and a half, but we also because this is an opportunity for patriotic people to come and hang out like there should be a little bit of hanging out, so we can. We can shoot the shit and and joke around and stuff and still have time to do the fight without rushing. Cool. Zuri thing else goes wanNA share about it. Yeah, I'll say something. set the moment. We don't plan on having this recorded and released There's just. A. WE WANNA. Make sure that everyone feels comfortable doing this, so yeah and We don't want people to like shy away from it. Because suddenly they're in the public eye. This is supposed to be a find hangout session. On I. Don't want to edit all those which is be real. That's completely fair but I think we're Brian I. We're both on the same page with that from very early on like this is not. We're not trying to produce further content. And Be podcast content horse like we already have enough shows and content that we put out. We wanted this to be special for the person that gets to. Be Involved with it and be more like intimate personal kind of hang out. And I think that's probably for the best dot only from an editing perspective, but like Brian said from keeping people comfortable and not want to. We don't WanNA, have to. have. People sign waivers and. Be allow us to put their stuff out. And we wanted to be more special than that. Cole, will he? Do you have anything else? You WanNa, say about it. Well I will tease a little bit and say. Dat I'm looking at having a very special guest for the first one. Okay. kind of an example situation. Yeah I'm we're we're. We're looking at the idea again. This isn't until September so anything we say is subject to change. This is the fine print, but. In talks to have a very special guest for the first episode, and to maybe record that one as an example. Let's not call them episodes. Yeah, no! I'm I'm already I'm already missing myself up the first match we may end up recording the first match so that people have an example of what to expect, but I will say. That's not gonNA continue, so don't even ask. We're not gonNA. Keep recording after that one, which is going to have a a very probably a very special intro to get everybody excited and get an idea of what we're what we're trying to do here. Co will I have some questions for you guys? If we want to get into that segment, I mean yeah, but no promises. I'll ask this just because you haven't. This is actually about the game. Go ahead and get that one out of the way. This is from Nishio And Show us. Guys accounting for size and reach. So they're actually that goes back to the very beginning philosophy. I think what told me when I made. The game is that you want it to be relatively like its strength as it in its simplicity as well so if I mean sure we start including like all the details that go into boxing and he could probably lecture me for hours and all the things we can. Buy. In real boxing reach is a massive advantage. But for the sake of for our sake, and also for everyone who's participating, we don't want like everyone to think about those decisions as they're as they're making their character playing the game so by keeping it a little simpler. We're hoping that this is more inviting thing for everybody. I agree and you'd answer. okay. From. Bibi t be PT or bipolar. However you know we know who he is. What, what sport do you think the other characters would be most effective? Of the cast yet. Okay well. I don't know if she'd be most effective, but my God the visuals so good. I want to do Roller Derby while expes. That's good good. I was GONNA say we already know she ain't no gymnast. You read about that What about I think? would be a who he'd be really good at pool. Yeah yeah horseshoes. Fell a good basketball player. Five hundred feet tall. Volleyball take advantage of some of those legs. It probably liked volleyball better because you could do it shirtless. Yes, he would. We'll see what about Zeno just. Jessica. I mean what is another like if we're going to pure sports? Maybe baseball. It's a little less. Physically exertive and contact sport as like football or fighting or something. And Baseball's a bit of a chess game. Yeah, it's a thinking man's game for sure. Okay, and let's see what I mean. Mike is a boxer so right. Yeah. I do think Mike could've in different. Life had a good career in pretorious. Shot. For sure. Okay good question The see here. So we have another one from. Bt. In the ass to you, he would. Be Open to moving into the market after a couple more feats. If we're looking at the fiction of the thing. If if Mike had. Continued with his boxing career, and become like a champion and a household name. He probably, I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that he pulled kind of Conor McGregor. Floyd Mayweather maybe switchover. You know make that get that big money. I have one more question and I'm not really sure. What kind of it's GonNa. Be Able to give but This is from Newt. Sunni, ask really assume you'll go pretty in depth about how you made the rules. Yeah, we did that. Potential rewards punishments for Mike. I don't know about that so I have one more question I soon means for winning or losing the fights. Maybe I don't know. says potential rewards slash punishments for Mike Excetera he. Go ahead. Yeah, you said this before he that's not in the. It's not in the again of the show. So, we've we've gone to parallel universes at this point so the only punishment to Mike is Heath's pride. Right I honestly like the good thing about this game, and because we want it to be such a like. The as much as I am competitive and liked to win like that's not my primary focus here. My primary focus is to have some cool experiences with patriotic people that they might not other have had the opportunity. To be involved with right so honestly it's kind of a win. Win For me if I lose that means you get to win, and you feel awesome and get the. Brag chip of IB Titanium Mike. Riley should put a disclaimer on the on the standouts on the deliverables Brian. About he's heath. At the moment, you know just be worn. How. Dash. The Hang out I'M GOING TO BE SWEET So he he. Finishes that whole question with what's next? Question. Assume that. Means Okay we've we've announced it. What happens between now and September I? What can? What can we expect like? Well, they'll be where they'll be any. Release of the rule set before September I. Know promises I'm not getting. Related to exact dates. Say will release it ready to release it with the latest time being September I. Came, I is the is the definitely it'll be. It'll be released by September. I hate to be like a horrible curmudgeonly capitalist, but like it does behoove us to release the full rules to everyone. Because then they can just go fight each other. Like through come come, fight me and give me more money on Patriot. I will say the rules are out there currently in the discord for episode fifty to the face that yeah. Absolutely, you should those are. Dob Is. There's no copyright anything on this. There's no layers that'll be coming after you. because. We don't have enough patriotic subscribers to afford lawyers. That's right. That's that's GonNa be the next year. Is We're going? To see you. F. Not True at all. Out there. Are. No. I okay, so what's next September first? We start reaching out to our APA. Patriots. Is that right? That's what that's. What's next on September first? We'll start reaching out to everybody to see who who's interested in setting up a match and we'll go from there. As far as what's next for the whole project, who knows you know that we? Love to expand, but we're going to expand if and when we can and how it makes it feasible, because this is you know as we said at the top of this. Brian is a PhD student so. There's some some time to think about. But we'd like to keep an open ended. God Get through version one point I. Right, and I mean again to be the the capitalist in this thing like. The goal here, obviously for us on the financial industry get more people to jump up to that ten dollars tier so. Obviously we want more people, but we also don't want to. Like bog ourselves down so much that it's impossible to get get all the fights right and that's that's something we may have to. Worry with. It goes on. But As, it is now we we think will be able to. Within a reasonable amount of time, accommodate everyone. WHO's interested. By it's, it's very. It's going to be very hard for us to like. Try to push it to where we're like, do in multiple episodes a week kind of thing that's that's just we. Have you know lives? He's a PhD student for forgiveness. Saying we have the show and. Everything else do so all right well that yeah I. Don't want to in this on a Downer note. So. Tell me Brian. What are you most excited about for this project? I am honestly very I think. One of my goals for this, Fisher is to bring the experience. Bringing experienced is like just as good or better than what we heard episode fifty to. Better your. All right coming in the first one. On okay. I? What might be recorded use? There's no getting around this one. So. I'm really hoping that the people my goal is to make it the people that that participate in this half again time, and WANNA. Keep following the podcast at the very least after we are done with with our fight. I'm happy to be part of like the the lesser the lesser family, the second cousin of the southern Tomfoolery family. We gotta come up with a better name than lesser. See Grading. We're glad to have you for sure. He's about to what are you looking forward to? I mean like I'm just really excited to be able to hang out and play. Play this fun mini game with people, and I mean obviously like I. Have a lot of interest in in boxing, anyways and also have a lot of interest in in RPG and and star finder and stuff so for me. It's just all the. The Best of all those worlds. I get to hang out with people. Shoot the shit. You know maybe Drake's beers. And come and compete with them in this game that we've created. So I mean that's perfect for me I. Mean we idea to be the star this little project? Well. I think that's all the listener questions. That's all my questions. Well Bryant. How was your first Tom Talks? Rate I hope they're more pleased by be back. Next month we've we've got something on the books for sure, but we'll. We'll keep your mind for future ones now that you're PASO POW. Already I look forward to it again. I know we have to be a little bit cagey about about the rules and stuff, because we're still in the plates as phase, be patient with us, but I hope you're excited. We're excited about titanium. Mike's Fight Rock and this could be something really fun for our our patrons and something unique that I don't I. Mean I don't think any other podcasts out. There is doing something exactly like this just. You know, keep keep your. Keep your ears out. Your. Sleep Yeah sleep with one ear open. Right. but yeah just get ready I mean you'll. You'll hear more either leading up to or or on September first. And we're excited. We hope you're excited. This is something special. We want to provide for our patients, so please let us know when the time comes to. If you're. Interested in doing this project, we'll make it work. I also do as as kind of a last. No, WANNA remind people. If you north foundries website, use our code STF, and you can get a discount on their products. Get yourself some sweet new dice. For sure for sure for sure. It's you some of them medals. Chunky boys. Yeah great well. That's another Tom Talks. It seems like it's another time talks in the book if I may jump in real quick because I've seen this to all my friends and family. Thank you for listening all the way through. I. Know You're GonNa hear this things and tell. Ya Charter to friends and family hello. It's. Probably Yeah. No idea, we'd have that tertiary audience. Art Soviet friends and family listening to a show or they just like no, my my boy is on Tom Talks about my brother. My brother just started, or he's going to as soon as I sent him this and then. I've got my DVD group. Pushing it as hard as I can so Lindsey. You better listen to this. Well hopefully she hears that message at the end of this to listen to this. Right well again. Adam as always thanks for being my my co host here talks Brian. Thanks for being our first non cast member, and and become an apostle really. Thanks for helping me with this game because like I had the idea to do it but I didn't have the requisite skills to make it. So without you don't think we could do this. For. Thank you for making it so I didn't have to do it. Was, one of the goals Adam, you know being the. Leader of this whole STF vein has a lot of work that he has to go all the time. What was recording the shows and doing the editing and and really a big part of my going doing this other than getting? Community engagement new new patriotic subscribers was at anywhere to Adams workload right and I was like real secretive about it for the first week. I didn't anybody. Brian started talking about it, and then I mentioned it to Adam. He was like you should probably like telecasts. You're right. Adams out available for this. Who can I fall into doing some work for me? and. I responded with enthusiasm. Well I mean I'm glad I- drunkenly reached out to you. Well, we're we're all we all are. Fools in a way. Thank for for taking the bait as I'm really. I'm really happy to be part of this and thank you for the opportunity to do this. And thank you to all of you. That are patrons right now. It's awesome. You've made a lot of things possible. Thanks to all of you who are just listening like I get. It's tough times out there to saw one. Make sure that also at the message. That really were just glad to have you listening to the show so if you can't. Sub We understand you know and. It'll be. 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Ep. 116 - We need fewer police officers

The Breakdown with Shaun King

20:48 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 116 - We need fewer police officers

"If you listen to the last episode of the breakdown I asked the question what's our plan how are we going to change this thing that people call the criminal justice system our country needs drastically fewer police with police officers all in the name of stopping people from skipping over again without those boys ever laying their hands on the police I mean police start hitting them like it's a professional boxing match thousands actually of new police officers in New York's train stations all over the city in the name of and that is happening in great part because the city of New York is now flooding our train station's I don't trust any plan for sweeping changes with our justice system our legal system over the the stalls and the turnstiles because they can't pay now they are going to put hundreds and hundreds you're a series of horrible horrible videos of blatant flagrant police brutality right here in New York now when you start to do the math they're going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars of saving the city and saving the state money because people who can't pay or won't pay are crossing the turnstiles without pain as you have the same number of police that you had at the height of mass incarceration the number of people being city there's one that I shared of police officers just openly in front of everybody punching teenage boys right in the face overnight here's our ten years we have too many police officers. I mean we have two to three times the number of police that we actually need this country here's what I know as long as we have this many police they will always find people to arrest it's it a small city or a small town small county as long as you half in those cities and counties as long the the adage if you build it they will come if you hire them they will arrest and as much as we want to read Vdi have retired from the NYPD and no matter what they say no matter what we say it is clear to me and clear to them I don't trust any plan for that that keeps the same number of police that we have right now because here's what I know and I have friends particular but maybe you've seen it it happened just this past weekend the NYPD is surrounding a subway car surname for more like eighty to ninety percent fewer people in jail and prison but we won't get there if we have the arrested and jailed is just not going to go down the way we needed to now you might have seen on my instagram or across my social media use the number of people in America's jails and prisons which we should all want there's some organizations saying we should definitely cut it in half I think we should probably that has stopped and the car has stopped but the doors are still shut and they are starting to surround the subway car with their on police officers who are then going to do what we saw happen all weekend in another video that I've shared on twitter aim number of police officers that we have now this is Shaun King and you're listening to the the the breakdown that as long as New York City as long as your city as long as Los Angeles or San Francisco or Houston or Dallas or Chicago Atlanta or you and connections in police departments all over the country and as I record this I'm in New York City and I have friends that are currently working for ny John's drawn poking their guns tapping their guns on the window over and over again telling everyone to put their hands up and the breakdown of a breakdown people just begin clearing out in fear and a young man who sitting there on the train has his hands up calmly because it appears I'm this young man who they said they had a tip for gun possession he didn't have a gun he was unarmed non-violent now they say it was likely a bad tip like people could have gotten he is the person that they want nearly twenty different officers then rush into the car guns drawn brutally arrested old imagine if somebody had moved a certain kind of way imagine if somebody had done the obligatory touch of their waste which police often say completely compliant noncombatant doing nothing of the sort and they arrested him at the end of the day officers per capita we have an outrageous number of police officers and as long as we have that number of police officers a is there excuse for firing their guns they had guns drawn on a young man who had his hands up who was unarmed patient non what we believe he didn't pay his two seventy five to be on the train do you hear what I'm saying that if we have this same number of police officer that's what they're gonNA do so all of a sudden what happens is you decriminalize marijuana you decriminalize cannabis you legalize weed and make it fully with twenty police officers because they said well we did all of that initially because we thought he had a gun but it turns out find out that they're just gonNa move those officer somewhere else that as long as police departments in this country right now we have nearly one and a half million police in some states you do all of that and you think total arrest and crime rates and police brutality is going to go down only the trains accessible to people who cannot afford such thing because here is here is the fundamental truth it is Austin Austin Texas the governor of Texas is now wanting to criminalize every basic behavior exhibited by homeless people posthumous outrageous to arrest and charge people ultimately what high bales fines and court costs to stay around a certain place for an extended period of time as if homeless people are the only people that ever need to sit ready access says listen there are some people who can't afford to be on the train but need access to the train have programs they're gonNA beat the hell out of people for not paying their two dollars and seventy five cents to get on the train when everybody every expert on pod all wanting to criminalize literally make it illegal to sit in certain places to lay down in certain places to pitch a tent in certain places that make the train free for people who can't afford it spin the hundreds of millions of dollars that you're now going to spend on extra law enforcement on making now and they're fighting for it all over Texas conservatives are fighting to basically criminalize homelessness and poverty in this nation's justice system well we can begin over and over and over and over again to decriminalize as a subway ride and you arrest them give them fee after the after fee that they cannot pay force them to attend court dates sean in this country we lost count with how many laws our country had years and years ago it's into the millions the actions and behaviors as possible the United States has millions upon millions of laws I asked several have now been criminalized in none of those things need to be crimes so we can and should begin to decriminalize all of those behaviors but what I'm seeing here in New York what I'm seeing in Austin Texas what I'm seeing all over the country is we can decriminalize things as but here's the thing what happens when you write a homeless person a ticket they can't afford it if somebody can't afford a two dollars and seventy five cents they are not even hearing or learning about your just criminalising poverty and here's the thing we can go at this in two different ways when we talk about we should and police departments and the police state and the state governments that control an influence policing how an ask ourselves the question what is the plan how are we going to drastically change this nation's legal so many simple behaviors that are actually just rooted in poverty or homelessness or despair or addiction or mental health google scholars how many laws do we have and they came by asked them this almost two years ago how many laws does this nation have and they came back to me saying you just find other things to be policed they'll just pivot to something else it's it's chicken or the egg it's it's called and the answer is we need fewer police and we should be fighting for it and the resources that we use the billions hundreds of billions of dollars that go into America's police departments jails and prisons that money needs to be diverted into we have fewer police in this country all we'll get is different versions of the same thing ause and affect so even though we are successfully decriminalizing so many things in each time we do that it's an enormous Oku box I missed the nintendo switch with circle home plus and the circle APP parents can filter what content is allowed our home we have seven people with two adults and five kids spread across a staggering twenty two different electronic devices then those police departments can be used with prevention can be used with social services can be used in basic ways for our education systems for after school programs for enrichment programs for drug treatment programs from mental health services all of the ten Torri to decriminalize drug use drug addiction or homelessness or poverty or mental health issues it is it takes any normal effort and it's just a huge deal every time we do that only to actually witness police to just issue safely and effectively manage your family's online time across all of their connected devices because here's the thing I said two other areas to prevent people from ever entering the so-called justice system in the first place are you understand what I'm saying who can't afford to seventy five or two dollars seventy five cents ride on the subway this last week we talked about how in the city pivot to something else they will pivot to another community or another cause or another concern that they have to begin policing edge in monitor twenty two different devices. I know because I tried that's why we love circle it's a brand new system that helps legalize police departments are still finding ways to police communities on this and the racial disparities are just as outrageous as they always have hey everybody I'll be right back after a quick word about our brand new sponsor they won't arrest and beach for the weed although I do have to say we are finding in many places where marijuana has been decriminalized and even family moved from Atlanta to southern California we lived in Orange County and we moved from midtown Atlanta to Irvine California which is a suburb then at the end of the day we're just going to need fewer police on each force city by city county by county all the parental controls on my kids apple products and I felt really good about myself thinking that I had everything covered but then I realized I missed the XBOX I missed the may be called Kroger but in southern California's Ralph's and I saw police car in a parking lot of a rouse and these folks don't define safety by having thousands upon thousands of police officers in fact you could speed we have laptops and desktops and phones and tablets and TV boxes and video game consoles and more and my wife and I found out the hard way can set limits for screen time and you can monitor the Internet history and usage on every device. Now here's the thing you'll never stop worrying about your kid visit meet Circle Dot Com backslash break and enter break at checkout again that's Meet Circle Dot Com backslash herb about forty miles south of Los Angeles and at the time Irvine was listed as one of the safest cities in America then a few more weeks went by and a few more weeks went by and we'd been there for nearly three months in I realized I never saw a single police officer not one that you can't just assume that all the APPS and all the programs that your kids are gonNA use are safe and wholesome but it's impossible to man fact that year it was listed as the safest medium sized city in the entire country and we lived in Irvine for a few days than a few weeks replace that Irvine was listed as one of the safest cities in the country the safest medium sized city in the country up and down Irvine's roads and never get a ticket there were no police because they didn't judge safety take an inter break to save thirty dollars and when you do so when you get your circle system setup shoot me an email let me know what you think we wanna make sure that yes but with circle you'll have one less thing to worry about and here's the great news right now listeners get thirty dollars off of circle story that I tell often tell it live when I travel I talk about it some in my book that comes out this coming year this is working for all of our listeners and families are close with this this is a shortened version of I had a friend of mine take me not inside of the police station but take me by the Irvine Police Department Little Bitty Police Department is a little bit allies is there is a huge racial gap between which communities are heavily policed and which ones aren't home plus when you visit meet Circle Dot Com backslash break and just enter break at checkout again you get thirty dollars off not on the road in fact the first police car that I saw was just parked in grocery store parking lot Ralph's parking lot for some of you Ralph's we need fewer police all over this country and when we do those police can finally be dispatched primarily on on how many police they had on a block by block basis they only states only one huge police and I learned we lived in Irvine for several years it wasn't because people in Irvine didn't have drug problems and drug problems families adults children everybody hardly even had any police and I learned a lesson right then and there as I drove past this little bitty police department all because we'll be right back here every single week day five days a week unpacking in explaining not just today's news but issues folks at a prestigious high school but guess what they didn't criminalize it they got drug treatment they already decreased same per capita rate of police in our communities that they have in Irvine I'm curious at after today's episode I'll go back and see armaments where police are everywhere on every corner on every block folk only want that in communities they don't live in in what we re system will part of that plan and this is much more revolutionary to say today than I think it will be in two years or five years just how many police officers they have in Irvine for the entire city and our report back on a later episode because that's not the same ratio we have enough cities allies the very things that we want decriminalized fire communities here's the thing we want the same number of police like the issues of violence in danger not on policing poverty and despair bring bring them and bring the is this podcast possible we love and appreciate each of you so very much and thank you to our associate producer Asandra senior producer podcast director Willis for their hard work on this and every episode take care bye-bye in that we lay out here in the weeks and months ahead of course thank you so much for nearly thirty thousand founding members of the North Star whose generosity even made what we need you to subscribe and you can subscribe right now on apple podcast or spotify or any podcast APP that you use and love the great again thank you all so so much for listening to this episode will break down if you have not already subscribed to this podcast why l. Byu understand the world better today as we talk about having fewer police going to unpack explain that because it's going to be a part of a larger plan they had drug problems and in in fact our oldest daughter started high school day and when she came home she was shocked by how many classmates were selling dealing and using drugs.

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Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

5:01:00 hr | 7 months ago

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

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Gray Don King can say bottom line is busy world graders mode of course eighty six hundred now living in Florida not in the greatest of health but he does get on the phone element will he promoted another big car this with somebody sent me an email regarding probably not probably retire straight up the sun by the HBO Situation. People said a couple of weeks ago. You know a lot of stuff. Needle in the lot of the inner the inner goings on. Hbo Boxing The goings on. Hbo was my sponsor for a long time. I did hang around a lot of the bill five got. Hbo VIP passes in. Hbo Flew Me. To do gloomy when it finally that one time guest to London. That was a fantastic coursey. Fight with Johnny Bungle and Princess Seem Amendment event. That wasn't he came in on the magic carpet. Dispense with one of the rolling stones. Rahood in of course Puff Daddy. That's where I met puff. Daddy you know. This guy was some giant blood smokin weed and it turned out to be John Collins or put the idea of Datacom which you want but the question is how did. Hbo End Up with Jim Lampley when they had buried. Tom's they started out with bars. Are Sports announcer? And of course let me give you a background on. Very very topics was in city college. Here in San Francisco. Nineteen Sixty Seventy S is about twenty years old and CBS CBS. Affiliate here caveat. Television Channel. Five decided they were to bring on a full-time sports guy will. They had no idea what to do. I mean they weren't going to get the guy. The giants roadside is no drunk guy. Johnson a couple old alcoholic can get them to do TV. I mean he just wants to. Tv types can radio. They had the perfect voice radio not TV room. Coming from there were drugs. So anyway they get they go out to sea colony. Find this guy who's been sorta came to fame announcing OJ Simpson Football Games. By or rental. James Simpson was a member of the city. College Football Team I think in nineteen sixty six sixty seven either in San Francisco so very called a lot of. Oj's game remember Games when OJ story. Like eight or nine touchdowns ramp for like three hundred yards. I kid you not. I mean he was a master at City College. Obviously the all pro and hall of immunity became so anyway so tuchus gets a higher by channel five and he basically is like the new kid on the block. I me he just either be twenty one year old guy. Big Smile on sports wasn't wearing glasses back then and he went for a while here in San Francisco so he sort of faded off started when a lot of national stuff and then he went to. Hbo After the National Stuff Evatt nearby HBO set. They've of Mambo. Said you know what I'm GonNa make you voice of. Hbo's Sports You'RE GONNA DO Wimbledon you're gonNA DO HBO Boxing. You're going to be my guy so various it right on so very digital. Gets a little cocky in a couple of nights? Contracts are paying you. Good money. Don't have to work at Austin image meals when a fight maybe once a lot and maybe a Wimbledon or or some tennyson comedown once or twice a year so you not working a whole lot but you get paid big. Big Bucks'll vary was kicking back high on his throne. You're in the city by the bay. Of course he was married to the then San Francisco Examiner columnist sports column nuts whereas our Jill Ryan. She's a fantastic writer. No doubt about the hall of fame. Right met would a scribe. She really was anyway. So Berry Advice. Ramsey's finds out the seth arrows going to be in San Francisco said Abraham was the HBO CEO CEO of Hbo Sports. He was sort of brought. Hbo Sports and Boxing to leave to center stage. I mean there's no doubt about it of course so anyway. Seth has dinner with Barry. Tompkins here in the city by the bed. You know they're talking this and that and and says you know. H Wimbledon is going to run the same time as the site cars. I'M GOING TO GET JIM. Lampley to come in and do the the fight card. You're going to be in London or something like that so very top because they had a couple of drinks and he pops off. He goes yeah. Why don't you get Jimmy? You all the flights in something like that. He wasn't serious. He was drunk and popping off right so what did. Hbo Do the Exbury top because he was fired from basically removed from the from the vice in time and Jim Lampley replaced him so anyway I said it. Berry one day LUISA GOES ON THE BIGGEST STAGE. You have people you know. He was unlike you he goes. I stayed the same. Say exactly what I want to when I say as we know you regret it later with regretted time Hell No. I need regarded as just the way I felt quite say we go a Jim. Lampley lampy Last ALMOST THIRTY YEARS THIRTY YEARS WITH NETWORK EIGHT BILL. Boxing bound out of urine may arrested piece that. Hbo had buried copies. Played The game. Guess Login Lampley would've just remained eight. GonNa say Guy Can North Carolina in a former Atari. Now we hear from North Carolina Tar Heel of course to the big apple and Mr Socrates offer. Boxing's PAC. How does lines this afternoon? I'm doing well Pedro. That's a quite a story. Never heard how Starting and how happy was brought into the fold into we've HBO. I am here in New York doing sports radio lab. He's done a lot of things. Tom has done a lot of things. You know Lampley. I have had our differences over the years. I didn't bring any of the aspects of Jim. Lafley is leaving death with people who they are out there I just I just thought that. Berry Blewett bear to sort of like my bro- my broadcast heroes. I would watch him on channel five and then I remember he came to a list of either was Columbia Park Commission. I can't remember which one it was. And then he came. That was the first time that any TV guide ever came anything involving me. You're saying I was like WHOA. That's the dude on TV anyway Compass of course I would have lunch once in our lifetimes. We talk here and there and I tried to get him to come on his show. A couple months go see if he ends up responding because I hit them up again today but he is an intricate personality. As is Jim Lafley. When you combine the two. There wasn't enough room. There isn't enough room in a room. With those two egos involved here today. Peony broadcast together. I don't think they should have been Lampley verses Tompkins yet that would have made a good. Hbo Fight so what's New in east coast man in the world back there well It seems like every week I'm having to say that. Some prominent member in the boxer community passed away The owner of the Mendez. Boxing gyms who were our gyms in the lower east side of Hatton very popular very Much used whenever there's a to promote Public workouts down the passed away Francisco mended they. I don't recall his age and I saw posted instagram and he passed away earlier in the week. We'll tragic How did that happen? The president said this will be gone by April. This is April. Were late in April. And it's still going in the miracle that he said was coming. Well it didn't happen. For Mr Mendez. Did it well? The thing is Hispanic. Didn't come out and say he died of covert nineteen or To be had symptoms. You know they. It was really shocking. 'cause a young guy you know in terms of life you know. I don't I really didn't know him personally. I knew of him and I think once I don't know of any health illnesses that he met. I don't know I have no idea was real shocking People under thirty S or drop the are getting strokes the nutshell on symptoms of of the actual virus. What's happening is they're just suffering strokes and debilitating strokes sometimes fatal. I kid you not in its. It seems to be happening. People Forty and younger as far as a stroke was concerned over. Forty you get this two percent of you guys. I guess according to the government are I mean it's it seems like it has no pattern anymore. I mean yes if you do have some Have to worry Some health conditions like diabetes and heart heart problems and as matic if you get sick with the symptoms. It's going to be a lot of coverage you know you've you've we'll leave. The subject of this. Would this last line which one at one attribute that a good portion of America has a gut when you have a gut and the only fat people in this disease? Don't fat people in his ailment? They don't fare too well absolutely absolutely paid. There's dudes in and around my age group. Forty two forty three that passed away and when I see pictures of them you know they were beach and either guys that literally contemporaries guys. I grew up in my neighborhood and they look like they could be that you know. I hope that this is a wakeup call to Americans. Take their health serious. I mean it's a shame here in the Bronx. We have five chicken spots every other block you know in certain condense areas you know in certain neighborhoods that cater to impoverished people. You know it's. It's sick fried chicken spot. I. It's like a deadly try. The cashier fried chicken spot. A liquor store. I'm glad you brought that up. Because that was my when I worked in hood in San Francisco. That was the that was a major major justin with the actual amount of wicker stores per capita was like five hundred per source for every person in the neighborhood you are going to talk live worldwide on its fourth byline. Iheart Radio Sirius. Xm Satellite Radio. The Dan Patrick Channel Channel. Two Eleven S. The Nation's squad said live on four thousand. Different Internet Clap Kuni tune in DOT COM dot com. I didn't ring talk live worldwide. My name is Pedro Cornet commanders. Boxing's athlete breaks bomber plan. Imagine this is your money and someone wants to take it from you. 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Koto thousand nine going to be on. Espn today as will arrive. Floyd Mayweather in Zab Judah Abdu. I'll never forget that hooker coming music. Dan Is it what you gave me my. I said what I didn't get that she was. He gave me counterfeit money. You know funny money. I said no that was. That's a look at that. Can you can you top that sock hard bro? So the greatest thing I've been so In like in front of me was Antonio Tarver his Harbors sister and life jumping on his girlfriend as they in on the escalator and I am actually one step behind his sister and his wife and I see the bill because I heard about their maybe take a step up from that I could just see them signing her up this chick the top step you know where they jumped on it was Jerry Spring- The craziest thing I've seen in boxing that was actually in Oxford. And I believe it was Tony and Gerald yes and talk I think might have been working You find months-long with him in the part of that fight that that missile Jeremy Ruined Joel macy. He's limited. This would go macy up. Nick Joe Meziane brain injury. In of course he retired. Yeah he's one is he was a five of mate. Yikes Rossler no doubt about that knows the south of excited about about the young kids. Wrote gyms happn right now I see myself running in a lot of people might take this the wrong way but As a live beautiful chicks I run in and I don't mean beautiful in their faces. You're all come from. I just mutiple women per se as a whole. They're just. They're out during her running into seems to be more Asian women. Running is as top by Asian women. Then you got white women then. He got a few black girls. He got one lots in a while. I see a Latina out there late but outside of that man is the Asian girls in Socrates Asia. Grow run me into the ground at try. Use them as like rabbits. Try to keep up with them. No says man were eighty more the tribe after about two miles survival to their feet. And you're in San Francisco huge agent Asian population Yeah there's something about seeing a lovely young lady and shake you know it seems like it's rare because it's a lot easier especially. I have to say I was born from Latina a married to a Latina. The culture's changing that. I just go to the. Dr I'll go to Columbia and I'll get nip and Tuck. And how why do I need to do is set up for you know? I don't know it's always like the seeing. Thanks we'll be talking about the size. Five girl just is twelve girls out there. This is four big women out there running but they're running and they're still beautiful. I did something about women running. It just enlightens me. I don't know what it just decided very light in new volume is I've been working on. And here's the deal. I've been actually rediscovered. My love of push. I've I've been doing pushups every other day. and some state UPS haven't. I really haven't done much. Claudio. It's on my to do list starting Monday But yeah you have to try? It's there's only so much Neth watch you know the reason why the reason I bring this up as far as boxing concern is it. You know you can't go to Jim knocking religion but you know what this last name is you can do still and I tried to explain this young kid. Listen to me. You know. I've been JIM now month. I don't know what to do. I've gained nine ascent man when you just want to run. Why don't you just run? If he ran out of eight or nine rounds a day you did little jumper open. He wouldn't have a weight problem at all. He can do that without going to the gym. He doesn't have to have somebody standing organ going. Come on man jump. The road will this on your own. The thing about running you take off somewhere and it's you competing against the biggest enemy. There is which is yourself your opponent and it's just like you run to the starting point then you look back nowhere to go if you keep going. You know it's it's very it's more mentally. I think challenging physical at at least to me Running it's it's the cheapest one of the exercise you know. They don't like running. I can't do it you know it's it's it. You don't need a gym membership a good running. Since they don't have to run per se you can go out there and power walk. I'm into watches. People our walk man. I saw this chick power walk into the if I was out buddy and drive by would have been biting my fist. Yeah I mean just get up and move. You know. Break a sweat. Japan's didn't Japan's no put on hold until the end of June. It looks like Yeah there's decided they're going to go to somewhere late June as to whether they're going to start up again on the. Us's going to try to do something in Florida where say got governor into Santa's down there. 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And the main more no matter where you are in the US or around the world you can stay connected to the host and fans who love what you love so check us out on facebook and twitter at Sports Byline USA now more rain talk with Pedro Fernandez. They boys rolled familiar successful. Duo recording history off. I kid you not Great Hall enough to ring. Talk live worldwide. You're inside the into the world. Boxing and then make then you back to this. Nineteen ninety. It's been seen. Oh seventeen months as we did the first raw wall my talking about the broad walk wrestles the first professional boxing card. The People's Republic of China's Mao Tse Tung. The Communists took over in nineteen forty nine so anyway the walled the Braga walls of antacid success. Of course we had Muhammad Ali. Their places pack is no doubt about the everybody had a great time and we walked away with a good reputation. We've thrown such a stellar event. That we were going to come back in nineteen ninety four to another one. Of course they were waiting with open arms with where the Chinese people. Anyway I ride about ten days before this event is going to take their back. Let's go back to August nineteen eighty-four we're going to do. The Pre fight tour with Muhammad Ali is not available for the September seventeenth cards where we can actually go over to China month earlier in tour around China hype up the Fight Card with them. Of course he's always denied jet taxi anywhere he goes he is the face everybody knows. I mean the most known guy. I told you we stopped the train. One time in China in the middle of nowhere. These people had no electricity. They had toilets tonight yet. Didn't have teeth but they knew who Mohammed Ali was one thing that keeps you so anyway. I've over in August nineteen ninety four dollars. We do the tour we come back. We served soccer plan. The event will be good Mike. Deal on Carl Wilson Amendment. Mike Weaver the former world heavyweight champion Beyond the car of course drome coffee. Another former world champion to be on the card. David Jacqueline my facebook buddies going to be on the car. We had a great event. It was no doubt about it. There is going to be a Chinese ninety making his professional boxing. Debuts Ellison mixed martial arts star in the country of China like the Bruce Lee of China. We'll get to that point anyway. So I get there about a I get listed Celikkol back to China for the actual Fi Cardi for his about September Tenth September. Eleven and things start happening on the Chinese government rolling out the red carpet for us the approval Renault. There's a a Chinese person trying to help us out. Meaning they're spying on his. That's the way it was. That's what escalated. They would substitute They would give you a tour guide or they tried to give me good looking chicks. It didn't work. Give me give me play no way. Man Kaleidoscope. Internet mother told me Keith. Zip when you go abroad anyway So we're there. We're prepared for this car. Having a good time we got the ring card girls together and of course I always wanted to teach. The girls had do the ring card stuff because they weren't hitting two strutton rain insulin Put on my feminine side and it is I did the prior art in nineteen ninety-three so we've got two girls ready five cards ready. We go to the reader Rabbit Fight Card Mississippi. We've had this one fighter. Who was a mixed martial arts star in? The People's Republic of China was like the Bruce Lee of of China but he couldn't make a Stanford is tough. I mean as far as oxy was concerned and I'll tell you when I was over there with them in August. He was eating. We went to a windy so we toured the country to hype the fight so everywhere we went. We'd have these breakfasts and he will get three or four plates of Bacon. I kid stack all this. Bake it on a plate you try to tell. Us people through our translators. This big is not good for you. I'm saying spit with an age. This is not good for you and then I'll i. Drama comes trump. Yeah Yeah right anyway. So I realize the Chinese guy was a lost cause standpoint we got these five cards in like one two three four five take place in his Lulu arena. Crossing this hotel in Macau China September Seventeenth Nineteen ninety-four. So as time to have Bruce Lee come into right. Now they don't tell me who Bruce. Who's GONNA fight? I know nothing about this. I am when the TV just doing the TD mean he will. So I see Chinese guy. Come into the ring and I'm saying to myself as a joke. You know if he's supposed to be the baddest Dude in China. Lick him in ten guys while this talk has maximize the mood is not too well conditioning superstar as far as combat sports and so he may have been income Fu Eboni. Did THEY TRAIN ANYWAY. So he gets in the rain and then all of a sudden his opponent gets in the rain. And I'm mind blow. I'd never seen this guy before i. I didn't even know that they had an opponent guys. I mean they didn't have an opponent for the Chinese mixed martial arts so I'm looking around and I see this guy and he looks kinda familiar but shaved his head his head shaved so some probably not recognize this guy but if he had hair recognize him and he looks like he's wearing a t-shirt he wouldn't WanNa live on and then. I look at him. He's got a lot of flab hanging around his lace and then starting to figure out a way to say wait a second. This is a guy that was the former professional wrestler. He was three hundred and fifty pound man to told me on the plane on the way over US. Like somebody's cut man that he lost two hundred fifty pounds and used to be a professional wrestler. Senator Etcetera so now I'm looking at looking at it and the camera's gone lights and Camp Lights Camera Action Mark Roles going. I don't know what to say because I realized that something's about to go down and I think it's a fixed a nicer yet but it sure does look. I can pitch and they got a progress in the fight. This mixed martial arts guys nothing. Nothing nothing good is. GonNa come naturally. Nothing good is gonNA come out so anyway. They ain't introduce the Chinese guy in this. They played on the Chinese national anthem. And he's in the main event. He's last night tonight. And everybody's you know long. Chinese people are throwing stuff in the rain flower. Good time celebrating the greatness. It isn't there anyway. So the fight takes place and I guess we're about twenty five thirty seconds into the foul codified. Those guys t-shirt listen. His rest are hanging out lower than his waist. That's why he's got keyshawn. Could you lost two hundred pounds? I guess you lose two hundred pounds. You Bite his look all that good afterwards. The evidently his didn't so anyway he's got these. He's Ashland nipples down around his waist. I'm not working. I'm trying to figure this out. I'm really confused. Really up for plants at my lies. What's going on? Is this type of acid trip or something like that. Looks going on it. The fight goes about I. Guess about twenty seconds and the Chinese guy throws a punch and the rest of doesn't take the punch but he jumps up into the air he jumps up into the air and dives away from the guy like boom. He's been hit with a bullet like Kennedy from the Grassy knows. Head shot back. I kid you not. So he goes back he goes down. The wasn't a punch that landed in tire. Crowds Darna going nuts. The Chinese guy celebrating this net. I'm freaking out. I don't know what to say. I'm trying to keep it clean because we're GONNA news later. This is going to be broadcast later. In the United States a allegedly on television. It didn't make it a TV. Thank God so anyway so I'm trying to do the professional thing urine and I realized what's going on so I signed off right away. I said we'll be right back right after this will cause I saw the riots going the right spot start so people are throwing stuff in the the the girls where they're actually the ring card. Girls lie trained out. It'd be regard bills. I sort of had to account for the referee John Shirley Take them either Rena. I grabbed the microphone. I try to sell the crowd down. I had a few words written in Chinese. That didn't work out too. Well evidently said in Chinese must have sounded like you know speaking Spanish. It just doesn't come off too well. Evidently inside of the people a little bit worse I had. I had a a crowd who was pissed off because at a fixed light and grab pissed off me because I'm trying to say Chinese over is not working. This is not working out. And I'm looking around for the promoter Harold Smick. I'm not seeing Herald. I mean he's a guy that I'm looking for. He's the guy that got herald. Where are you herald? So anyway I get the rank are goes out and plays. John showed scored them across the street. Russain hotel across about Allison about six even allows longer like a block and a half anyway across the street so They get to get growth back to the hotel. I end of taking my microphone. I'm Michael My earpiece was worth up on our butts in gravity and I just let Amanda Stuff this. I think it was up there lepto. Toiletries a hair GEL. So I'm out here. I don't care I ran across the street. So everything's sort of up in the air. Nobody's gotten paid yet. Nothing's going on. How are we going to get paid? Nobody's getting paid so anyway. Heralds medicine or the promoter Harold Smick Stamos for the fact that he went to jail for five and a half year from buzzing twenty three million dollars in the Wells Fargo Bank on their Los Angeles California. Of course he never entered the bank himself he got. Ernie is going to the bank from bank or him in got twenty three million dollars. I'll because he work things out with a employee at Wells Fargo so he funded. Mohammed Ali Post horseback in the nineteen eighties with this money from wells. Fargo so herald goes to jail. Hero GETS JAIL HERE. All a gets close with me and meet him like father and son their longtime. He was a guy that made that brought me into leaves less than a short time. So Herald is in trouble. I mean you know the people they rina's been torn apart Riot seats have been thrown around. The Sneh wasn't a pretty sight in the cop for security so when the Chinese cops came to the studio came to the hotel. They weren't happy and these in WHO's elected Chinese Communist police. I'm saying the ICE MASO anyway. They said to me a worth. Mr Smith pointed right at Herald. I gave them up rags. You know I'm not gonNA play out maybe at other places. I would pontificate this but I'm not pontiff's getting China not going to do. This not happen. Appointments he goes worst. Mr Smith lesson that show right there with the glasses. 'cause I didn't want them arrested. Megan communist country may never get home so anyway they drag herald off and he didn't look like they They were arrested on per se but he told go with them so anyway he leaves. We all know what's going on. Nobody's getting paid. I send everybody to bed that night. Some sort of second in charge of scenarios in bed that night and I say to him I'M GONNA pay in the morning. I'm saying this is looking to meet for money because you know eight or you helped with his where our money. I don't know so anyway. Herald comes back about three or four. In the morning police have released. Mappi make some type of state and he goes back about three up three point four five in the morning. He gave me a betty about five fifteen. He tells me relieve so when you need. Us relieve relieve and now we're going to Hong Kong. He goes I got helicopter. I said No. I won't find the helicopter so you hang fully realized forgotten. I won't find it helicopter Anglophone House back about five Segel's okay. I got the heater coil. After dealing course ready to go take us on. Everybody's GONNA go everybody's radio everybody's in meet the lobby at seven o'clock. I said sure L. Sierras meet at seven o'clock so we meet a seven o'clock in the morning we leave the country. We flee the country. We are fleeing a country. We are fleeing a communist country. Okay with bills unpaid the whole nine yards out freaking out this. If I'm part of the management running the show. What do the Chinese that they give us a Frie- he's the one is doing other speaking on the public speaking wanted? Us US. Mohammed Ali. The whole nine yards on the guy. Looks like on the Front Guy here but I'm just I'm just a face I'm just I'm just a voice. Herald is really the guy behind us. Okay so we all get to eat today. Hello Coil Which is will vote applies about three feet above water should shows across water from Macau to Hong Kong. So we get into Lukoil thing and we as we away. Wait for the Chinese police to grab us out hanging I. I don't think you're GONNA last. I'm reading I've swipe coming underneath my arms Albany as far as slaves. I'm freaking out okay. We got to get out of a communist country in one piece. I'm not worried about the money. If he was big baby. You pay me. Are you paying me. Allow let so. Finally we get to China. We get them up to Hong Kong and I feel a little bit more relaxed more acidly. We've got twenty five rooms in some hotel or something. Like that. He said is up. Within hotel. Rooms the size of like your bathroom. I kid you not I kid you not. If you've got a Slav Athem that's a big hotel room in in in Tokyo Japan Hong Kong. So we're kicking in Hong Kong. I think it was the western. So we're kicking in Hong Kong and I'm wondering how to get paid because I've got to pay these people. I mean I do bump expect me to with only gave him the advance money and you know their food money in our expense money in Macau because I was like the cash. I had the money so anyway. I know they're going to lean on leaning on meet the money for money's less than the Herald. Where's the money and Herald says me? I don't know I see her wheel. Is People Hundred Forty Grand? We're going to get the money I know so I just dropped. I couldn't believe I dropped into a Jay. I'm just guessing you. Let's go get it so anyway. We got in a car. Drove across got into a cab drove across the Hong Kong which bank got one hundred. Forty thousand cash all in twenty dollars bills in get this herald. Didn't trust the banks counting system so he made me count a hundred forty thousand dollars and twenty dollar bills. I was willing to do it. Longs everybody got paid. I could care less man because that was on me. I counted one hundred. Forty graphic. It took me like an hour and a half you this this money count. We did the entire count. One hundred forty nine exactly. Why didn't believe him? I guess because Chinese handle issue with them being Chinese Geraldine African American Chinese anyway. At the end of the day everybody got paid. I got on the plane and I couldn't believe it as I was on a plane. The plane was rolling away. I was looking out the window because I expected the Chinese to come and say guess. What Mr Fernandez? You Ain't going nowhere. That's an original live a ring. Talk live worldwide to and busy doing the same to spend some time together. Hey travelers do you want to save money on your next flight? Then pick up the phone and call. That's right call because the best prices are not online. They're with smartfares. See smartfares has special deals with the airlines. When they have unsold seats they use smartfares to fill them. 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They are the acting legend. But one and only Frederick you get your head sits there there you go. Oh yeah now now. Now I really feel like I can talk sports. See Not only Frederick the great acting legend from Hunter and Landon Bumblebee the movie and Everything. And he had his playing career with the The Los Angeles Rams in the New York giants and he was Should have been longer with the Patriots to take him back realize should not have meant but anyway he is here when I said at the hand sanitizer today you brought that into the studio got my on my own sense of sports lounge hand sanitizer and I'm about to do it right now. Tan Hans Santana. We and by the way we do this show for you here on radio on Sirius. Xm Channel to eleven and on the sports byline and also Right here at CR in talk radio. Crn Digital Talk Radio. 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Things are OK Michigan. A little bit so Cathy said Nice Shirt and she apparently caught view of the merry month. Shirt on hike it up a little bit so it gets it on the shot a little bit there marymount a little higher their college air. You go now. Did you go to Marymount college because obviously it caught? Kathy's I daughter dead for about fifteen minutes to go to the gift shop. Get a shirt. Well you know what happened? What happened is this was kind of a A two year school in Palos Verdes here in California's Marymount college and so she she went there. You know to do under studies. Get a great point up and get get some Some experienced and get those things out of the ways so she could move on to another school and so I went there and it was a beautiful campus. It was a lie to say it's beautiful but it was it was it was over up in the hills overlooking the ocean so beautiful sponsorship. You can figure that out but I went into the Near the bookstore as I always do and just to see what's going on and I saw this shirt and put it on and fit. It just fit at the time perfectly. It's a little doubt because it's all it's back down you wear that a lot is one of your favorites your comfort shirt. Yeah I do I have. I have a bunch of stuff that I just throw on. You Know Tell You. How many touchdown scored on the Marymount football tours? Where when I usually wear my dodger blue and then talk about playing second base in the minors form but today I got a very light blue shirt on so having a Kathy is saying the nice shirt over there raise tuned into US and We've got Zack. Has Just Zack. From the sports accurate. Crn He's restrained everything for Zach attack. Pamela is saying hello to you from Georgia Pamela. She's Georgia yes. He's from Georgia. The Georgia Peach. Oh Hope it's all going your way down there. I noticed what you By the way raise in Boca Raton Florida and other than other than array in in in Zag the beginning making comments here in our chat room on the Sports Lounge show. We have all women. So here's the thing you mentioned this the opening of the show. I thought it was just one hooters that closed down near me in Burbank California. But apparently what's the deal with hooters? Did wingstop take all their food away or something. What's going on? I didn't know the specifics. I love the uniform but when I heard that hooters collapsing and never collapse. They're not when he were there. Go ahead you are you were you. Were the reason guy. Started the business legs or breasts. What are you for chicken when you go into the place like that you know? I never liked their food. I`Ma Thi- kind of Guy. Anyway go ahead so you were saying so you went in there and what happened. You know so. It was collapsing when you were there was the but look today guys. Don't go too. You know topless bars to watch football. But we'd go to hooters now but it's it's it's had its day talk I would. I would go with much. I'd never been to hooters. You have never been in my life. Great Service even when it was popular. I said I'M NOT GONNA and rate personnel are probably unemployment right now those are there but the people saying that. Maybe the uniforms are to blame. I don't know when they relaxed everything. I think it was. Okay I love I did I did did see some nice girls and there you go and when you have a bar you can talk to lester guy there in Barra the challenger. Whatever he does over there you. Can you have to have good looking women or women in your bar for guys as if you have a a bar and you open up some old Burnt-out guy sitting there smoking an old stogie or something. It's not gonNA pull it in like if you've got some good staff of area good clientele of women in a bar right well. Look here's sports celebrities. Yes you're but today You you're not GonNa get a bunch of sports celebrities to go in there and Ogle Girls in shorts They have red shorts and white tank tops. I guess they were but But it's it's it's kind of a dated type of deal you know and I went in there where I went in there. I went into one in orange. County the hooters in thirty years ago and just to see what was going on. I used I never stayed. I never hung out there. I used to go in there with my stick. I was shuffleboard. Champion and that's something that they didn't see a lot of so I'd go there and talk about being a shuffleboard champion and I just kind of come in and I put my equipment off to the side and then you know get some good food and beer whatever well it had its moments. The reason we brought it up was it had its moments. It's it's an antiquated form of a male I guess A lot of the women's Lib hated it and got angry about it and people stop going well. Pam was saying we shouldn't open any businesses because numbers were too high. And all this stuff and I'm worried that this country has just been a walk down too much right now. We've got to start getting back to normal here a little bit. Don't you think you should bring back to hooters to kick start the country Yeah Yeah I'm reading some of the comments that are here on our chat room. We should tell Sebastian Gorka our idea. He'll tell 'til 'til trump you know he. He talks Gorka talks to trump almost every day he does of course. Well here's the thing. This corona virus is really making havoc of sports. And it's a threat to cancel nearly half of the schedule. Sporting events saying now only fifty three percent of the major sports events originally scheduled for this year are likely to take place. This calendar year is a new projections from the two circles. That's a sports marketing agency. Just Twenty Six thousand four hundred twenty four. Sporting events will be held by the end of this year. Possibly that maybe more might be cancelled. There were forty eight thousand eight hundred and three major sports events ticketed to go on for the year and so this is like a fifty percent cut on this thing. And they're saying the global sports industry is going to generate seventy three point seven billion revenue twenty twenty that sixty one point six billion less than was projected before this pandemic. So that's a big hit so You know we're going to see what's going on here again. They're hoping that there's going to be sports back in some way shape or form soon. But so far Dr Foul Chino. He's kind of the expert. He kind of throws a wet blanket on a lot of things and he says he says that Last week he said that the only way professional sports will happen. This summer is by holding events without fans by having players. Stay in hotels and He said seventy two percents of Americans poll by Seton Hall University's Stillman School of business. That they would not attend. Sporting events returned without a vaccine for the corona virus. But I've okayed a plan with low. You know what now? Here's what I say. I say if I may in the basketball business I say bring back the NBA. Let people decide if they're going to show up or not? I don't so what but at least you got this season completed the smartest way for you to get the lowest prices on your plane tickets domestic or international is to golf smartfares first or last. But you gotTA call us before you book your plane tickets fly anywhere in the world fly anywhere in the. Us and smartfares can save you up to seventy five percent on your plane tickets. We HAVE THE LOWEST AIRLINE TICKET. Prices on over five hundred airlines. And you've got a great twelve hour three cancelation window. 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Really really get into it with them. Secondary go where your mic with. Am I okay and find out? What happened there trying? Charlie's fell asleep right there. We took care of him. But what was it? Like working with great. He was very Very friendly and very open sometimes actors their guests on. This is a pilot and he's not a recurring character because he read the script as we all did that threw him off a building the end. It's just building your. He's sitting in this one here. Yeah that's on Westwood on Westwood Think it's on Westwood Boulevard. Yeah no I'm sorry. It's on Wilshire Boulevard right near the La Country Club. And he went out that window onto the top of another building. Really seen as part of the show. Oh part of the show. I think he's a murderer and he's a very you know very tricky guy and very charming and so. I go to see him and talk to them. I lay on the couch and kind of reverse kind of deal. He says. I haven't seen so is in mind if I laid down. He goes oh please dousing. Yeah so but he was great. It was it was fun. Doing it the network you know you. You always like to have the network who who was about to give you you know Airtime for an idea. You know you have competition idea. Like Steve Cannell came up with this idea. Hunter High Hires people to do it. And then they put together a great cast new great story and people really really responded to it talking about a good story. Let's get into baseball a little bit because that long-awaited Rob Manfred. The Commissioner of Baseball report is out and they've looked at this red sox that cheating scandal. And here's what they've come up with. They've suspended the red SOx replay operator for one year and The docking the red sox draft picked as punishment for signs stealing this is after considerable investigative of investigation. Okay nobody really knew about like yeah. You think nobody knew about it here. We know this genius. The Red Sox replay operator came with with his on his own. I'll help you. I'll let you know exactly when the fastballs coming. He was working for somebody but who let's find out who was working with. You know you know by the Red Sox. This this this news bulletin. That's printed out that that that we get is It's it's inconclusive. It won't say anything about who has connections. Were you know You know here we go again. It's another conversation where Rob Manfred Commissioner of Major League. Baseball hasn't got a clue on how to investigate anything because he really doesn't WanNa find out the truth that's replay that for a second for the replay ever. Here's the thing. Alex Cora's already suspended because he was the bench coach on Houston when they were cheating. The birds there on the the Astros. But here's the Red Sox you trying to tell me and Rodman Manfred saying that manager Alex. Cora suspended because of the Houston situation. Manfred wrote in his report that he does not believe Alex Cora's coaching staff was aware of Watkins actions. Really you really think these that dumb of a manager and the coaches are that stupid. Yeah that they can't see this guy in the training room talking with some guys saying day. Luck here's the fastball. Here's what you gotta look for. When the fastball comes and you really I don't care how great of a Red Sox Fan. I really believe that Alex Cora Delma to not know this is going on right. Interest knows they've convinced everybody including the owner we talked about the owner of the of the Astros has absolutely no idea. That's another guy whatsoever. Who on his team was cheating when everybody when every owner told Manfred? Hey you better tell crane to stop cheating. So he wrote crane a letter saying as such. Please stop cheating. He went off. Okay I will. And then he went back and told US guys continue cheated. Just go there and I cried as eat. The Cracker Jackson. I like to watch the game cheating. Aw I dislike to go there. Eat The cracker Jack. It's bought the team. It's really yeah. It's really how stupid do they think we are that you don't every player knew about this? And Hey she gonNA that locker room over there because jt Watkins. He's got a way to go ahead and pick up some signs that we can get some big hits. Jay would be up in the video room looking at the video and then coming back and telling the players it doesn't even say who he is talking to. I made a note here. He's talking about the guys that he was talking about. Oh Okay Good. Who were they? Who was he giving information to who he had to be giving it to the players? Who were they? Well Manfred says communications these violations was episodic and was isolated to Watkins and limited number of red sox players. Did we name the Red Sox players? Let's at least name these jeeter's that he knows we're taking working with JT. Watkins John This goes back to what I was saying several months ago and the people who listen to the show regularly understand that this is a this is terrible insult to the American people. It is just terrible. It's like what's going on now with with the the virus and all of the all of the Lies in the business models. That were used to mislead people to get people to shut the country. Here's the deal they did he's JT. Watkins is also barred from serving a replay room operator for the twenty twenty one season. I got a better one for you. And here's why don't you Barham for this season? Let's just go ahead and take them off the hook he doesn't have to be a replay operator for this season. Yeah for this season so he can come back and show see this year. Yes exactly that. I'm comeback start cheating again. And they're saying the Red Sox organization saying that we strive for one hundred percent compliance with the rules. Major League Baseball Investigation concluded that in isolated instances during the twenty thousand regular season signed. Sequences were decoded through the use of live game. Video rather than permissible means permissible resident. Ceo Sam Kennedy said that statement. Hey who got screwed on this whole deal every time the Los Angeles dodgers face both the red sox of the acid rain and guess what the dodgers don't care because when you ask the players they go well gee we were looking for an apology. Can you imagine asking Fred Dryer? That's me Fred. What do you think they just robbed you of a world series and I'm going to say I sure wish they'd apologize you. I'm going to say that I'm going to say let's all go drive over to your owner's house. Dragging him out and put them over. I'll blanche I am doing all the right things drinking plenty of water eating right and exercising but month. 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Count of conspiracy to commit racketeering for accepting two hundred thousand dollars in bribes to facilitate parents to two students into the ucla as fake soccer recruits. So I don't know nothing's going to happen to him. you know. I haven't heard what the final upshot was of these These these people in their daughters happened happened with some of them haven't been resolved yet. There's some that have pleaded guilty and got on with it. There's some cases that are still coming up. So this guy in this the two thousand thing he designated the daughter of Davina and Bruce Isaacson as a soccer recruit to get them accepted to get her accepted into Ucla and Exchange and the Salcedo received one hundred thousand two hundred fifty thousand payment from the the. Isaac Censo- I deal about that deal. You know it doesn't seem to be a lot of shame in people anymore actor you probably could have just done it on your own. Just becoming a soccer player and get into the mode cashew. What do you mean say I am a soccer player? Just kind of go into it. Get into the whole deal. What do you mean you if you wanted to get in there you could be the role of a soccer player? You would need to do anything photos or anything. You look the parole. Well know about my kids by thinking. You're young enough that you did it. And what are your thoughts starts meal as Fred Dryer? Crn Talk Dot Com. Follow on Twitter. Fred. Underscored DRYER FACEBOOK DOT COM surreal front drier and drier SIERRAN TALK DOT COM. Can't get enough of your team. Espy nations three hundred team. Regional and sportscenter communities are built. Just for you join your fellow fans at SP NATION DOT com for all the best sports news. Espy NATION DOT COM. Your team your community. When you need Auto Parts O. Reilly Auto Dot com is just a click away. We offer convenient options for you to get your parts quickly order online. Pick up for free at your local O'Reilly auto parts store. 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I hear you and I know it's because you care all the talks we've had over the years including what you've told me about not using alcohol and other drugs they stick with me and believe it or not they really do make a difference especially at times matter moves drink nothing good so thank you for talking and preparing me for what's ahead. Thanks mom never giving up and always being my biggest fan. Thank you for letting me know what you expect. So I can try to meet your expectations for more about talking with your kids about underage use of alcohol and other Drugs Visit Underage Drinking Dot Samsa. Dot Gov welcome back to the Sports Lounge Michael Horn the one and only Fred Dryer. Why we got a few people in the Chat Room. Wesley is she said she loves listening to US each week. Randy has Chimed in saying great wings at hooters. He was a big hooters wings. I am Gabriel is Saying awesome show and Bernard tuned in with us watching listening to us in Ottawa. Canada so Wow that's up there near the Tundra sad note in the news and I thought you might WanNa make a comment on this. Because I didn't realize this was a big show like this but you know we lost a great actor and Brian Dennehy. This week he passed away on April Fifteenth and Pamela recalls. There's an a photo. So kind of a silhouette shot of you with the relaxing with your feet up talking to Brian. Dennehy was sort of a psychopathic psychiatrists. This was the pilot episode from that. Tell me about this guy you're on. Tv I remember I remember going. I got a call by major and said you gotta go over. Nbc You gotTa Read With a couple of actors of who the lead Bad guys for this pilot that they're doing and So I went over there and I saw Bryan said. Hi How you doing? We stood out in the hallway. Win over the lions and stuff he was really a nice guy and then we went inside this little tiny room. That was it set off the after the off the quarter at NBC and it was like thirty people in here and it was. It was in a room half this size and they say it was so small you had to go outside. Change Your Mind. You know what? Why don't we have someone in the room show we'll all right so operation so overrun busy with a lot of she'll she'll Brian was Was really great and He was he was in our pilot and he brought us. Good luck and I'd seen him through the years two decades after it was I saw him in New York at Elaine's a couple of times and he was He was a great guy and I saw right after he did First blood was still on and it was he was. He was going pretty good at the time. There were three movie ever made. He was great. He says I gotta I gotta I keep getting these phone calls for people saying they did they. Just make me offers. Here's an offer is an offer. Here's an offer and he says so I'm doing it and I'm having a good time. And he was a great guy. Yeah he will be missed. I always love Brian. Dennehy let me ask you a question. Sure now that I'm thinking about baseball. A what what happens to the season ticket holders who who have purchased tickets for the two thousand twenty twenty one sees other suing Major League baseball right but are they. Are they going to get their tickets? Back get their money back in I. I've heard there's a couple of frustrated fans of sued Major League Baseball seeking class actions Certification on behalf of everyone that shut out of the BALLPARK's to the corona virus. They found it in Los Angeles quoting said baseball. Fans are stuck with expensive and unusable tickets for unplayable games in the midst of this economic crisis. These is New York. Mets Fan brought tickets to twenty home games and a Yankees Fan reserved seats for single game. I don't know why they found in La but they did but they say they both been denied refunds and the experience of attending the live game so The opening has been pushed back. Maybe till may they're saying but then that's probably going to be without fans so it's a situation. What do you have season tickets? You paid your money and you're getting the money back or just going to give you want that cash back while they they're baseball sitting on these teams sit on it and collect the interest. Whatever that is and they don't know if they're going to have a season they keep it until they announce yes or no. We're going forward or we're not doing if they don't do it. Then all these teams Kinda cough up that money back to their ticket right yeah. It's it's a tough thing and You know but that's with all sorts of business people had you know. Sometimes they put a deposit in for a wedding at some wedding venue and then they want their money back. And sometimes it's a non refundable deposit and then how do you hit in this case the business? Which probably doesn't have the money to give it back to you. 'cause they use deposit to move things forward and get ready for you. That's why they say. Non refundable deposit but then is it. Is there a lawsuit that covers it to change it? So it comes back. This is a crazy time. This is all the makings of lawyers going nuts. For years to come. Nobody ever thought in a million years we would. We would be up against what we're up against and you never know you gotta be prepared at all times I guess. Yeah that's exactly. Correct your thoughts. You can email US Fred. Dryer AT CR. And Talk Dot Com. That's the email address. Fred Dryer F. R. E. D. D. R. Y. E. R. There's drier and And that's at sea are like Charlie Robert Nancy or competition radio network. Crn talked Yale K. DOT COM and You can you know. We'll put it up there. Check US OUT ON FACEBOOK DOT COM replace else and don't forget we do this show on Sirius. Xm Channel to eleven the sports BYLINE RADIO NETWORK. 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Jay is listening to us in the UK where it's morning there now and he says. Good Morning John Jay. Good morning from across the pond. So what does it eight hours difference? Eight to ten ten hours I think is not not ten nine eight or nine eight. I think you're right. I think it's eight. Eight eight nine in the Czech Republic we broadcast from Hollywood California. Hey Robert this a thought here before we get into our emails Rob Gronkowski is coming back to the NFL. And he's not coming back to the New England Club. He's coming back to Tampa Bay to be reunited with the only quarterback. He's ever played with Tom. Brady what do you think you'll have more fun? It'll be fun won't it? He'll have fun. Yeah it's GonNa to be great but I'll tell you there's a season you know what's really interesting. I've noticed it with Gronkowski is that more Secondary people more defensive backs safeties especially Come up on Gronkowski after he catches the ball and hit him below the knees. I think that should be outlawed. Yeah that's a very dangerous. I saw a Lotta replays. When they announced the fact he was coming back. Some highlight films and everything he says. Yeah I feel really good. I feel great. I remember him being hit seeing him get hit and it was terrible. I always thought that they would to make the make things safer. Make the rules. More understandable that they would they would Outlaw that hit below the nays because you can really really hurt somebody for life from Fred Dryer. There you have it in. The few players have retarded come back mark. Marshawn lynch did that beast mode as he was known he played with the bills. Came back with the seahawks Jason. Witten Zehr was in the booth of broadcast Monday night football. He was with the Dallas Cowboys and he came back to the cowboys. Brett father always loved this guy fabrice five raw but five and he played with the Green Bay. Packers came back with the The New York. Jets Michael Jordan played basketball went into the baseball came back and with the Bulls again. Michael Phelps Olympic athlete wins. A bunch of gold medals. Retires COMEBACKS A winsome. More Magic Johnson Lakers goes off on medical comes back and play again. Roger Clemens comes back forty one years old when he retires and then later he comes back and wins another cy young that what did you think about that? That's pretty good. I like George Foreman Man. He was boxing when something comes back ten years later it takes care of Michael Moore. Mario Lemieux came back twice with the penguins. Retired returns the illness because back returns. That's what was wrong with him by the lymphoma the first time he retired and then the second time was Fm That's that's what God at age forty something. They're really good so a lot of stuff going on so we get to some emails here a little bit. Let's do it. Let's talk to our family emails here for you and then we're GonNa talk about J. Lo and you to take a few things anyway Beverly is saying hi Mr Dryer. How are you finally watched Bumblebee? She said it's an awesome movie. The Fred's latest movie released by the way Bumblebee. She said the cast was awesome She said she liked to Haley. Charlie the the best person in the movie she says I like the how you kept up with the bumblebee yellow. And she says what made you decide if you're retired from football to get into acting. I don't know I was interested in it and I thought that it might be an interesting profession. I was more curious about it than anything else. I also knew that if I if I if I had an opportunity I I would take advantage. I thought I would be successful at it. I there's something about it. It's like sports. You know I. I knew I could play. Football Baseball was spotty basketball. Wasn't that interested in but football was something I saw myself doing. And and it was the same with actor thing she said. You're talented person. Thanks for doing a great job as well as acting now. A lot of comments. You're Jewish saying what do you think of Gronk being treated to the bucks? Francis said years ago Joe Montana and Marcus Allen went to the chiefs through the end of their careers led the chiefs to the playoffs. Both were younger tougher at a tough as nails and something to prove. Because Walsh dumped Montana and Allen's career was almost destroyed by Al Davis fast forward to Tom Brady and Gronkowski great players who have nothing to prove and at first glance seemed to be voted by the guaranteed payouts in the illusion of sunshine. I think you're GONNA have fun. I think that's the deal. What you into something. You're if you're still young here. Thirty thirty one thirty two and you can still play. There's no reason why you shouldn't get out there and make fifty million bucks while you can't Chip says grog onto the bucks. Tom Brady much needed to go to receiver in this new offense. It'll be the two will a typical. Tom Brady Gronkowski. Pass routes all be on Going into play again. You think. Well they've got They've got more receivers which I think it'll be good for GRONK. They've got more receivers than Than New Patriots dead and Gronk won't be such target down there with the box. I think I think they'll use him in a different way. That'll be more advantageous. You think. So yeah I think it's going to be kind of interesting. You've got a couple good tight ends down there as it is. Yeah it should be. What do you think about Rodriguez Wanda by the mets possibly is Future White Jaylo. What do you think I'd be kind of fun? Wouldn't it sure Derek jeter's already got Miami? Right let him Let THEM HAVE. The mets and much money was steinbrenner paying these guys. World Steinbrenner. Yeah for the on the Yankees. They got a lot of money there for the Yankees Organization. Well that's that's an all major league sports. I know something else or the Yankees always play. Always get over that salary cap. 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What's going to be like living in the city and when I got drafted by the giants I you know I said Geez I get. I can live anywhere in New York City I want. We're GONNA play Yankee Stadium. GonNa be twenty two years old playing in Yankee Stadium. You kidding pretty good. The greatest thrills of my life. A battle is really something. And you drove there. Didn't you drove in that old the VW Vancouver's The second year I the second year I drove back In the third year seventeen seventy one. I drove back there with some friends and and Yeah it was fun. It was a lot of laughs and you know being single playing pro football in New York I mean. What else could you possibly? Do you have a favorite restaurant in New York when you went back? When the team L. Vega boondoggle which one L. Vagabond Window Vega Bondo. Yeah on sixty S on sixties between. I like the vagabond. I in between I in the river. I think it's still there when they have an idea. It is. Yeah it'd be Kinda good. Somebody told me it might be now the. Nfl is going to start looking at thornier issues. Like how are they going to do a training camp and how they're going to start at the regular season so we'll be bringing that information to you as the weeks progress here for you to? That'll be kind of interesting. I might add that people listening to this. It may know the restaurant Galindo. They have a botchy court inside the restaurant right. Yeah it was good. I WanNa go there with you. Don't forget follow Fred on twitter front underscore dryer facebook dot com forward slash. The real fred dryer an email and Fred Dryer at CR TALK DOT COM for Dryer. Sierra dot count final thoughts from you for hand Sanitizer Ladies and gentlemen. Hi this is Ed Brown. Join me every Saturday at four. Pm EASTERN ONE PM. Pacific time I host. Sport is the heartland newsbeat radio network. Listen online at hotlines dot com by the life free sixty five APP hotlines newsbeat Alexa Radio Skill. 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Sylvia the only thing you can possibly have against me is the fact that I like. That was over for the storm. What was that? Wait a minute who is it hoping this talk quickly. Goodbye George what this. I'm coming. Now what is all the room with a narrow window lady fast? What is it the bathroom right? This what's the matter? That's what I'm GONNA find out. Scrubbing rush came flying through that window into the street a second ago. Who's in this room? I have been he through the brush through the window. That's what I said. I'M GONNA find out why you're inside Oprah now stop. Being so dramatic does not locked. Oh well Jim Taylor. Officer husband isn't going to be telling anybody anything ever lady. He's dead and from here. It looks like he's dead from very unnatural causes asthma. Folks come to my office vans. I think you'll like the reason. I don't like murder Markham. My enjoyment comes from helping catch killers. I understand that. Of course Vance man named Jim Rains was found dead this afternoon in his bathroom. He'd been poisoned. It was a slow acting. Poison took effect several hours after it was given him not too unusual situation up until now Markham. No that's true but listen to this. The bathroom door was unlocked. Rains felt himself dying. Or anyhow this is what we imagine happened. He sees describing brush and tossed it through the window. A police officer was passing went into the house and found the body a bathroom floor anybody in the house. The victim's wife Sylvia. Why didn't he call out are open the door to call his wife? That is why iphone you I see. I don't know the answer to that. Unless he suspected his wife at poisoned him and knew she wouldn't help him. It's possible me is. I think I'll find out a few things about the late. Jim Rains before I see her though. I'm sure the victim broke that window so that we could see through his reason and find his murderer. Just a moment please. This is a surprise. Come in and we sit down. Mrs Rains May I say that black is a very becoming color. Why did you kill my husband Sobia please? I didn't kill Jim. Why should I have killed him? Had lunch with new poisoning. You want it didn't have anything to do with you. While he was alive. So you kill him. You Kill him and I'm going to Kim you hustle. You don't be ridiculous. Put that gun down. Jim Away from me. You're a major but you'll never be caught. You're too clever smart. You really see if you can think of bullet could do. That has better. You ought to either nut category idea at all. Learn to aim it properly. You Imagine I poison Jim. It's true I did have lunch with but have you forgotten. I was you at your house when he died. I'd hardly be stupid enough to give the police ready made. Suspect I know Sylvia. This could have been a very good act you them. Let's say you poison Joel. Let's just say that you came here. Career gun accused me purposely fires. A wild shot the perfect picture of an innocent wife. Sylvia about your mind. Maybe I'm not the only one that's clever. Maybe it's just what I've always suspected of. You and I would make such a wonderful team park spans. Anything on the JIM rains murder and I've made some progress. Raines was in the numbers racket. Did you know that the Homicide Department of the new advanced? But I haven't received a report yet escape only a few hours. I realized that I also realized that Raines operated and opposition to a man named Eddie Kelly. Kelly wasn't too happy about the whole thing as we have a wife as a suspect. Of course. But you haven't been to see now that you've uncovered Kaley I imagine you merely to be consistent. Won't go to see him either. I'll see him but not right now now. I think it's time he went to. I went to see Mrs Rains. If I'm going to see suspects I must remember my etiquette. Ladies I take today why I don't know yet might not take a little time to add up figures but I like figures. You're anything like that. I like figures and I don't understand so what I like women and nobody understands them. All run is bringing the slips all except squirmy. He's doing any minute six. Take your shoes for that number. Why they it's over ten. You'll run out of fingers to count on. Gi like mathematics that must be squirming weighty. Yeah okay come on in and after I pressed the Buzzer to open the door. I missed the Kaley squirm. Hi Whitey all right. I'm here right on schedule. Your ear right on schedule Yes empty. Your pockets plenty announced today. Mr Kalia plenty. Everybody plays numbers a tell. Them a dime. Get some sixty bucks and all I gotTa do is guess three numbers right and they all chuck me dimes. Pretty good collection squirm a G. Mr Kelly. Call Me Squirmy. My name is Claude. Squirmy is okay squirmy. I've got all your license lipstick. I'd say the money you picked up you know I got it right here. Plenty of money plenty of times. Could that's all that shit. Let me have them slips of paper. It gives me more figures key. Scammy come in and take off your hat. There ain't no lady in the room. How can I'll grab it off the back my give me back my horizons I see. What's inside band? No policy slips. You're taking numbers on your own. Aren't you squirm? And I look Mr Kelly look I i. I don't know how they got up then. I've been framed. Somebody Clinton just let me come. That's why no I don't. I got rid of one competitor rains and now I got another to wait a minute numbers I had up there. I kept them then case I got picked up by the. That's it picked up by the car. Keep having had a plant board. Now get up and get outta hit me next time remember. Don't try to get killed with me. Sure sure I'll remember okay. I won't get cute. I remember so securely long way to get Outta here sure Mr. I mean why. I can't blame him too much. Why they what do you mean Jim rains out of the way? Just got ambitious. That's what it is all right. You know what he this business for secret. Remember that weddings. You've I worked for. You Ain't got no right to keep anything under his hat I think we're heading in the right direction in the car or the keys fans both. What on the way to see. Mrs Rains armed with several pertinent. Bits of information that are husband was in the numbers racket that he had a tough competitor named Eddie Kelly. And what else that? He was quite a bit older than his wife. We have a foundation. Of course hats puzzling features of his case still unexplained. Why did rains throw a brush through the window when he could have opened the door? And who had employs. Well I imagine. We'll have the answers to those questions very soon. After you Margaret. What is the homicide department reported since talk a little while ago anything at all nothing of interest trains movements during the day and found he had lunch with George? Mar All very respectable individual as I understand it and a good friend of the dead man but they did have lunch together which makes mar away potential suspect in case we run out of those. We already have. If you say so about Vance but me see now. Rings has been dead. How long now exactly porn right? That means yes. I'm District Attorney Markham rains. This is final. We'd like to come in if you don't mind I all means how can I help? We're not sure MRS rains. Your husband has been dead only a little over four hours. I notice a black cold here in the hall. And you're wearing a black dress. Isn't that customary? One is morning yes it is. You had all these clothes before. Your husband's do every well dressed. Woman has at least one black dress. Mr Ben Code just happen to have a black code. I understand this rains. What we'd like to find out is this. Why would your husband throw a brush through the bathroom window to attract attention when he could have attracted attention so much more easily by opening the bathroom door and calling? I don't know were home at the time I was on the telephone talking to a friend of James. A man named George Morrow. He was telling me that Jim expected him at the houses just end. The policemen pounded on the door. You mind if I see the bathroom I should I this way shape. He was going to take a shower after he'd finished. I could hear the shower running while I was glued telephone. Who Shut off the water. I don't know I don't think it was running when the policemen and I found Jim's body I'm sure it wasn't your hysterical shock details such as that might have slipped your mind. The what had been turned. Doc who what's important about? I let you know in a moment I wanNA turn on that. Shore go ahead. I don't know what this is supposed to prove accepted as hot water in the shower. Who aren't the only one who doesn't know what else Mr event trying to prove advances in trying to prove anything. Vance already proven it. What Alright Lis gold up you get out. Get out what's the hurry. I'm sorry hope you have good reason for the best reason in the World Markham on what a twenty four hour. Police Guard placed in front of this bath. I wanted close to everybody until I ask for it. To be opened. That can be arranged. I Imagine WanNa tell why it's certainly. There's something in that bathroom but tells me definitely who poisoned Jim Rains? In the first half of Jackson MIC STARRING AS BILO. Vance the shower bath murder case as it was originally broadcast on April Twenty Fifth Nineteen fifty and I believe it was over mutual at the time. And thank you so much for spending part of Your Day with us here on Classic Radio Theatre WanNa send you a quick note. 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The conclusion of the final events starring Jackson Beck from seventy years ago today April twenty fifth nine thousand nine hundred fifty. This is just Tony. Markham shower bath murder case open. When Jim Rains? Numbers racketeer was found poisoned in his bathroom. We know the poison had been administered several hours before we know that Raines wife was younger than he and attracted the deadman's racket rival was Eddie. Kaley that he had a friend named George Model. That's all what final vast insists. He knows who killed rains after he vast turned on the shower in the bathroom sometime later. What's the point of telling you Markham? You'll need evidence that will stand up in court. I don't have it when you get it. That's the question I'm going to try. Well I know what you're going to save it. I've been reasonably successful in getting proof for you before but each case is different. Markham president hasn't any importance because there never has been a case like this. Would you tell me why Jim Rains? Through that. Brush instead of opening the door? Yes I can that I. Won't I know why he did it? I know everything about this case. Now all I have to do is take the mystery of that shower and use it to make a murderer come clean only nine and five is fourteen. Twenty and eight is gut it out. Why figures Eddie figures you know how nuts I am but keep in all the time. What are your Ad. And there. Aren't any policies slips in front of you know? I just rehearse sometimes I just sit for hours at upper management. Eight three seven to the best way. Did you hear about subtraction? You'll really be in free rectory. Who's that don't know if somebody doesn't know the code knock and wait here. Why do you mind? I'm drugs moral looking pretty clearly. What are you looking for him for? tro him. Take the BUZZER Whitecliffe. Guy And I'm Kelly come on in Myanmar information for you and you're not taking over. Jim Rains numbers business. No that's right. No Hey I think this Guy Eddy. He's talking to Jim Range wife and a telephone when it rains. Kicks off? That's right. I knew Rangers racket also to take it over when I heard that you've moved over the ranger side of town so I moved back early quick. That's all would you listen to your hands off me. I'll take them off tomorrow. I don't think I like the shoved around when you're no for sure. Tillman go ahead. Boys take care of them that way. I get to do so calm okay here. We go plenty helping. This guy came. It's that you nice to work with that. Blacks equity of course is really nothing to three of booed had. I don't think you'll bother us again in a hurry. One good thing. He did now. He told me about rains was all set to take over rains racket. The cops will be glad to hear about that. And they're going to hear about it if they get too close to us. He had an awful good motive for murder. Why awful good all I can tell you about. Kelly is what you already know that he's in. The numbers racket is a couple of runners who collect policies and one of them is fellow. They call squirming. He's supposed to hang around this territory somewhere. You'll know him when you see him. Yes I looked at his gallery pictures a little while ago and Vance. Yeah I think that's the man right there in front store do I look disreputable enough Donald relies on ADS. It go headbands and I wish you luck is anything I will. Hi I gotTa Hunchun a number of a hunch. What does give committed to bits right? The number like a hunk of paper and meet meet tomorrow right here if you hit okay. Yeah you ain't outright enemies corner pats see ITAMARA. You get lucky friend. I'll see you long before that. If I really get lucky. Look George I don't WanNa talk to you now or ever and nothing you can do or say can make me change my mind nothing Sylvia value. I was just have to see a fellow named Eddy. Kaley he was a business rival of your husband. What does that make me? You'll have to listen to find out in a stooge of his work meal. Good reason for going out there so you with the reason. So don't you think you should be a little reason of ood only on a sophisticated here? Here's my hat. Nothing in it. See you sure. Yeah all the policy slips just like I collected them a good boy shit. Thanks and all the money. I got a got a lot of them Eddie. I'm swelled at these numbers. Joe Yourself Way yeah say I wonder why the other one is coming in? It's time for him to be here. Isn't it if you say it's time Mr Kelly cheers time? No thank you. Claw G thank. You must be one of the boys now. Eddie let them. Secondly Hey I think one of our voice anybody's boys I'm final. Knock with us since the question that seems to indicate that you are the head man. U R Kelly. That's right and you want to know about the knock. Well I was watching down the hall when Squirmy here knocked at. The door was Mr Kelly. I I didn't know honest. I didn't shut shut up. Okay now. He'll call me squirmy. Cut that out. You were watching. Vance and listening. I stand corrected. What Kelly you WANNA know why? I'm here eight talking. That's simple. You're in the numbers racket. So it was Jim Rings. That's a very definite connection between two. Now wait a minute vans. I know who you are. You're no cop and that means I'm not reading on anybody but George. Morrow wanted in on Rangers record. He told me that himself. If you're looking for rains this killer you don't have to look any further than him but I think this number's business of yours. Kelly is sufficient to lock you up until I get the blackjack absolutely should be handle this. One the district attorney and a gun yes. I'm getting up in the were welcome. You went up to the proceedings just when I was starting to enjoy myself but I'm glad you did. I'm very anxious to get this case over with I followed yours. You asked me to events. Do I take Kalian? Jim Rains murderer. No just on the numbers racket charge. Markham nobody here killed Jim Rings. But let's go to Raines House and I'll point out somebody there who did talk. Sylvia. I don't know why Fido Vance told me to come over here but I'm glad he did. It gives me a chance to do something in person. Something you wouldn't listen to on the telephone. Go Away from the George. You make me sick a lot of money. Sylvia I know where to get off. I want to marry you. We work things out so that we'd just the way you want them get out of here. I don't care if nine follow vents is ask you to come over. I tell you to get out. You disgust me on. You can't talk to me that we can't. I won't let you try and stop all get out of here George or I will take your choice. Only don't take too long to make up your mind. You've got to listen to me. I've wanted you ever since I saw you. Jim was my friend but friends. Don't mean anything when a man falls in love he was in the way. I could never have you with him around. You killed him. I discussed. You didn't do me any good. Killing did it. I'm going to kill you like what you know won't be taught to all stand right where you are but just in time. Mr Markham you'll advanced. We've been here quite some time long enough to hear. You admit you kill Raines. You'd never found any other way either of you. The police think you're wrong model. I knew you'd poisoned Jim. Rome new how did you know? Raines told me Mario after he was dead wrong before we go into the Rings Bathroom Markham. You realize why we went up Eddie. Kelly's headquarters break-up his policy operation exactly then too. I needed a little time to contact. Morrow have him go over to see? Mrs Rains and I had to be sure Mrs Rains. New the part I rehearsed her. I understand all that. But there's something I don't understand Jim. Rains was in that bathroom. He had finished. Shaving was about to take a shot. He felt himself dying and instead of opening the door and calling for help. He tossed a brush through the bathroom window. How are you going to explain that I will? I promise you and I will begin by telling you that. He thought George Morrow was in the living room remember. Rains wife told us that when she was on the phone. With Morrow Morrow mentioned he was with the rains house and that was the reason for his phone. Call it's right very well. Rains died thinking that moral might be in his apartment. That's why he threw the brush through the window instead of opening the door. He didn't want morrow to come in and find his body. And why not and what did you mean by saying Raines told you who killed him? I'll show you come into the bathroom all right. I'm here and waiting. To Be Sean. I closed the door and turn on the hot water in the shower. Turn on this. Was the situation. Rains was in identically. Take a look at that bathroom door mark. What do you see hi C. A mirror of is not unusual. Watch the mirror what's happening. It's quoting up. The steam hot water is covering batch as writing on that mirror. Read it mark. It's just becoming legible. George Morrow poison me then. There's the beginning of Jim. Rain signature. Dances is fantastic is it. I think the rains wrote that when he realized what had happened to him and he knew model had poisoned him but he was afraid moral was in the house so he didn't open the door. That's reasonable Mara would have come rushing in and wiped off. The Mirror. Rains was very clever. He wanted the bathroom window. Broken knowing that the steam would be dissipated by the draft and the writing on the mirror would disappear with it what it could be brought back by anybody who would wonder just as we wondered why a window was broken when a door was available now the writing state on the mirror. I don't understand that. Try It some time with your remarkable steam it right on it. When the steam disappears the writing disappears re steam it. The writing comes back now. You know the whole story. 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It's Easter weekend and Saturday. Afternoon Finds Gildersleeve out in the side lot surveying his victory garden and wondering whether the Polo weeds now or let them go a little bigger. So they'll be easier to get hold of. It looks as if that girl a little bigger for from the window. The kitchen nearby comes the smell of good things in the oven. Let's follow him in and see what's cooking five. I smelled something good. Let's pretty making their modules lasting Easter cake. Frosting yet and I guess it's about Birdie skillfully you. I've got to put that delicious egg beater in the sink. All for Leroy Leroy Collectible. Give it here. Yes no I'm looking cross. I don't want to miss any of it now. Bernie Chan yes express found here. Wait a minute what is it crate sign here. I didn't order any crate named Gildersleeve. Yes sign here is the holy egg beaters and hold too. I don't know what I'm signing this for a they're all right one side. Wait a minute glenside. We thought that great big thing here in the kitchen. Where do you want to make up your mind? I've got all day. Listen I've got a good mind report you your superior brother and two hours report to my draft Ford. Where do you want it? I said it right down here. So lace careful. Don't you know we got a cake in the oven? All that's the kind of service you get these days in the crate on Komo. I don't know but we'll soon find out where the hammer is guilty. Just the place for it to. Let's see now. You might be something. Breakable maybe I can pry the top and it's coming one goodness now. Never get them there under the frigerator. Maybe we had some food. We could get them come out yeah properties. Rabbits don't eat popsy. I Dunno my dear popsy tasted rabbit food to me but I can walk onto their with the broom name very valuable labs. They cost me over twelve bucks. Remind me to ask you Leroy. Got The two bucks here. Many many here bunny here running on I get that way I have to get down on your hands and knees stay under that. We've gotta get them out. They might get stuff under there. Those are Flemish giants. They grow fast. It'll teach them a lesson then all know isn't he tired re Moheli here. Leroy let me see Holly Fried ship. Let me hold him. They don't get away. That's a valuable rabbit. Isn't the cunning feeling edgy? Feel how soft the is a there there little buddy. Don't you be frightened? Lick My J. Look how he wrinkles up his little nose doing it too. I can't help it. He's making faces at me. A little kid is the Dickens. Leroy how did you get a man comics to seventeen expressed plea? Where did you get the two seventeen? I got integrate investment. In the AD boys make big money raising Levin. Yeah I wouldn't count on it my boy as pets. Rabbits may be fine about pets. I'm raising these rabbits. Eat Eat. Eat a little fuzzy cunning. Help US little thing like that. Leroy. I think you're horrible Marjorie. Take this rabbit and put him somewhere. I want to get to the bottom of this. Giving them is reverting. Back in Muncie. Come on we'll find a nice safe warm place to your way from that all call now young man. Why was I not consulted before you bought those rabbits surprise you? Easter surprise me all right. Where did you get the money? All of course all of it. Well seventeen cents. I had all right. What about the two dollars? Well all rusty no good roller skates I got. I was before last excellent skates when I gave them to you. Santa Claus gave him to make is anyway. They were always getting in your way in any way. I'll them in any way when we it was busted so I've traded them with Peggy. Did you tell him? The wheel was busted broken. Well he doesn't need all the wheels he just wants to make a push. Nevertheless that was not a very honest thing to do. Leroy was it. Wiley swapped it for a spark. Coil wouldn't spock. I'm glad to hear you didn't get the best of it. Stop beating around the Bush. Tell me where did you get those two dollars? Well in on the spot you just told me about. It wouldn't spike. Yeah so I said who traded to Michael Ransoms little niece. I mean if you really wanted it on kept pestering me forward. You wouldn work did you. Gosh you want me to give him a spark coil. It works dangerous. He might go shock us all right you charlatan. What did you try despite Kyle for come on trade it for boxed selling Leroy not trading and your soul that sparkle l. under false pretenses deliberate intent to defraud? What was your intention Bucks Leroy? I honestly believe you don't know the simple difference between right and wrong. Tally is better. Gosh that I helped minds. We find a place for those rats and see that. It's not in my study. I'll take this thing up with your buddy. I don't know what I'm GonNa do about that boy. I swear I don't know now Leroy ain't a bad boy. I missed Gildersleeve. He just a by. That's all he needs something. I don't know what you asked me. Mr Gill Steve. What Leroy needed a mother? So I'm afraid you're right where there's not much can do about that well. Nah I wouldn't say that What do you mean well? You're young Mr Gill's leave. You got a hell. He even got a fancy. And if you don't mind me asking what are you waiting for by George Birdie? That's what I'm going to ask her and I'm going to ask for right now. These bunny away. I shouldn't have said that I got to be tough with her. This time by George. He's GonNa give me an answer. I'm out like some people you can push them around your little finger when I Leela. When are we going to get married? Did you say you heard me gracious rack? Magno show impetuous been engaged now for four months once so impetuous about that. I want to know when we're going to get married laugh and then won't you know you out very well? Talk Martin if you waged. GonNa sit down here on the VERANDA and settled once and for all you know track Martin. Yeah show mashed all they know what you you like. Well it's my other side. Let's get down to business when we get married. Name the date Lehman Jammie. I do you want me to marry attract because well just because because because because you well I think Leroy needs a mother. Isn't that all? I am a mother for Lee Ron. I didn't say that I guess I know what you were thinking and I can give you answer right now. Don't fly off the handle. Let's be reasonable about this Martin. I am the sole reason I show you. I've thought it all over and I've decided that we have no business getting married till after the wall after the war but Leila that may be a long time last. You asked me for my decision. And that's it. I'll marry you the day the wise one. That settles it. What I demand a second front ladies and gentlemen. 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Did you ever did fireplace? There's no violin it already. They love their what young man you have to find those rabbits before we go to church so get busy to help a lot. Depends if I touch hooker over by the back fence. What's he doing around here? Let me just say Oh. The other side of that fence you owe me a fender bumper owner of two oversized over eight grey rats. Zoom goodness go get them Leroy. Those rabbits belong to my nephew. Judge Hooker see that you don't do anything of interest then gear. I just caught him finishing up the last election. Beginning to like those rabbits came over here again. I'll give them to the city. Just remember Gildersleeve. You not only only a bumper. But you will be one doesn't have you owe me offender and you can take a dozen. Let us for my victory garden. What are you laughing at you all nanny goat Man let's see and kitchen for the breast pocket needed flour for my buttonholed just to see how the whole thing looks there. I George Gildersleeve. You're a handsome fellow and cut away. Yes come in here and Raj everybody's picture good idea. I'll come right now. Leroy I wonder if you could find me a flower somewhere for my niece. Newly no leroy just something small and suitable Leila Happy Easter Happy Easter to you to track MMA. That's a beautiful costume idear. Everyone will be saying Lucky Gildersleeve fragment but you look simply angelic in gray trousers and cut away. Those marching he always. Does you know already for leading everybody. We'll take your picture fans got the camera out there. Show time I drew Yonglin I go into all we all come on Lois. Gillislee APP Eastern. Thanks my boy the same. Do you ban now. Where do you want us to stand all right? There are fine. I'll put some Li- like in my but no just fan anywhere really isn't too much trouble could just smile please hashish. Gotcha that one ought to be fine. Now who's GonNa Take Picture March? I take better pictures than anyone in the family. He has been lucky. All right knee right am arch right beside me. That's where I am already. Can't you get a little closer? I am looking at it. Don't you put Yom around aways Gosh right here in front of everybody? Why not say? This is quite comfortable. Nash showing love. Don't beautiful together. It just looks like an Easter magazine of decline. Thank you much I G. I never enjoyed having my picture taken before a George. I'm glad we decided to walk. Marriage say Good Morning Dr Pettibone Happy Easter not enough. He goes to a different church. I know I'm telling Mrs Camden. Don't tell me she stop for a long conversation. Good Night Mrs Carrington. Oh Happy Easter to you. The eastern LOOMIS TO GIVE EACH MRS CARRINGTON. And what a lovely shot. You're wearing. Thank you Mrs Ransom and glad you had the sense not to call it the fascinate. You're looking awfully well MRS CARRINGTON. Did you have a good winter? Fifty fifty call ask but now it's spring. What are you hear from your grandson? Is He still with the? 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She makes me. You're so young Rug Leila. Hey wait a minute rally. There's nothing like feeling when you've been to church on Easter. I always be like a new man after church on Easter Ip. Even having. Feel the same way. I don't know what it is. Easter hymns or something when a collection basket came around this morning I put in twice as much as I'd play the plan that much in the first place though he comes. Pb Happy Happy. Giants EASTERN MICHIGAN IS COMING FROM MR PD your PD. And I attended disservices together. And then I went five shop to get this little surprise surprise. What is it the plan but Goania? I've given potted Begonia every Easter since weaving A. Listen if you've given her going every Easter she couldn't possibly be surprised when you walk in with this weapon. You already given her twenty or thirty years for Eastern thirty one. I know because Mrs Saves the pots. Just a nice when I this. I know just exactly what she okay. She didn't say Richard. Pd Don't you know it's wicked to be extravagant? But that's not extravagant. Richer isn't where I know that. Mr Sleep Sodas TV. That's just a little way of acting surprise. I think it's a very sweet way to myself. Anyhow she always says it and then she gives me my surprise. You get a surprise to what you are surprised. Pv Box of crystallized ginger crystallize crystallized ginger. That's pretty strong stuff isn't it? Yeah I've got. It pays surprise every year Mr Pisa. It's a wonder you don't faint from excitement. Crank together but I get a pretty good imitation good enough to fool. Mrs. bb say that. When you folks have been married as long as I have you you know that I kind of surprises more fun than a real one as you may be right along. Tv Happy Easter to you. And Mrs and the same to you and Mrs Random Good Game Yes Leila. Was there any wall news today Well apparently the allied forces made substantial gains and L. Malayan Throckmorton Yesler. Isn't it wonderful? That MR and MRS PBS. Show happy after all these days. I guess so. Of course. He's rather strange. Fellow Martin where neither of US getting any younger we of course not Leila Throckmorton what is it? How would you like to come to my house this evening for chicken? Freakish see they'll just be the two of us to can frequency breath. I'll be there uh That was a wonderful liked it. Maybe I over in Dallas little because I didn't overindulge anymore than usual hit you were so cute sitting at the head of my neighbor seven my dinner and all it looks natural somehow shelves guy. You know shenton track Maughan. I've been nervousness Harris. The last few days to be nervous about nothing in particular. Sometimes I think I hear strange noises in the night but you know with you here. I don't feel nervous a bit fine. When you're not here do F- The owners. Dr Pettibone gets him. Vitamins. Fish. What did you say? Nothing track. Martin I've been thinking yes maybe. 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Wait naturally think of the resurrection. The two words are eternally linked together in every Christian land today the celebration of Easter when bring its age old message of hope to award darkened world the fact of the resurrection and the faith which it symbolizes have never been so significant to Salmonella nations and to so many peoples in the world's history and itself the Word Resurrection One of the most beautiful in our language. It means bringing back to life. The conquest of the return of whole at this spring time of the year. All Nature tells the story of Resurrection Way. Read its meaning in the budding trees. And then the miracle of nature's reawakening to vibrant life. They're still another significance to the word. Resurrection Bring Back to memory which was forgotten or lost and it is a fun this meaning up resurrection that I have been reflecting on this. Easter Sunday are fighting for freedom around the world. Enduring hardships loneliness wariness. We on the Home Front have a high responsibility toward them while they are absent. Our virtues grow in their Biden's our shortcomings are forgotten. That are so live. Our lives at their ideals will not be shattered when they return them. As proud of us has we are proud of them. And so it seems particularly hitting to me that each of us at this eastern time should resurrect and strengthen our faith in God and then the ideals our forefathers that faith and those ideals on which this nation was founded and by which it through strong and great as youngsters. Our mothers taught us to say when we pray. Now I lay me down to sleep. I pray the Lord my soul to I have just had a letter from one of our own voice had North Africa. And what she says. That eight men of his group Neil their bunks every night and speak this prayer as they go to sleep it means to them. It meant something to assist children. Let us as we think of these simple prayers. 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America go to our American rights dot com brought to you by the American Media Council an episode of the Couple Next Door starring peg Lynch and Alan bunce April twenty fifth nineteen sixty on anything. Somebody's knocking at the back. Dr Their thought you were out here in the kitchen. The mail man on if the note while he has to do is leave the mail. Look Man I don't intend to cope with Mr Riley's bright remarks this morning. We'd had enough and everybody else all weekend. I just quiet all while he's leaving usually stand back from the window. I think we'd better move that I get a job in some other town. I've never lived through such an idiotic or embarrassing two days really well. At least you can stay home. Take the phone off the hook I got. I gotta get downtown and put up all the razzing. I'll get from everybody in the office all my pals at lunch well all the time. We didn't know we were rubbing elbows with a descendant of Leif Ericson but I'm not even no one with any Norwegian ancestry you all right all right. Let's have breakfast with my orange juice. I've never made any such fantastic claims that was on trying to explain the Vikings Betsy by mentioning my Norwegian grandfather for goodness sakes. You said she was descended from the Viking. I didn't you're the one who did. Betsy said you'll mean length action was my great great great great grandfather. Something you said. Yeah you eat steaks. I was just being funny. I never thought I didn't look so funny in the paper letting reporter get. I was cleaning linen closet. You hadn't taken out of school is hoping whenever I've gotten so involved that was a little. Let's stop blaming each other. What do you say if you hadn't done this if I hadn't said that I mean both off also facing on? Actually I guess I started at Railing. Lose. Try to live it down. That's going back to school today. When we talked to the teacher and principal yesterday they were really very nice about the whole thing's all I guess they felt sorry. I finished emotionally raised in the end. We had to give up any fact the only thing that came out of all this is betsy. Got Our picture in the paper and now she thinks she's a celebrity tape up. The worst is over except for the razzing. I'll take downtown. Today I'll live through it more I love it too crenshaw. Wow didn't even know you back from New York for Goodness Sakes until Gordon said you were here. Wanted to see me. Yeah come in. Close the door if you will. I thought when you left the office last Wednesday or going to be New York. Two weeks only people that wanted to see. We're out of town so I decided to go again next month. I got in late last night on the playing. Well so it's nice to have your back. All we got the the Lynn. Well Carter contract signed last Friday Jacking. Eyler out with Lynn. Well all day is very good very good. I was wondering about that and a few details. I'd like to talk with you for example Lynn well seems to feel. He can't promise delivery. Yes what are you going to Orlando later Piper? I'd like to know about a little something else here. There Mrs Grandchild was a little disturbed over something. She saw on the front page of the paper. Blue Friday oh yes well. I breakfast this morning and lighted. I'd ask you about it. Yes well it's all been settled. Misty grandeur is just one of those things you know that Kinda boomeranged out of nothing. Nothing yeah well I mean it's just all rather silly silly. Well look I miss the grand. You don't want to hear the whole thing I'm sure. Oh Yeah yes. I'd rather linked to you the whole thing. Well all right briefly got because I had read a story to betsy. You know my daughter about Leif Eriksson discovering America. Well that is the answer. She put down on a test in school and instead of Columbus well then the teacher. Marta wrong in her classmates laughed at her. Well Betsy came home in tears and said mother and I didn't know anything or words to that effect. Well my wife and I felt that we make some issue out of it with the school or Betsy would ever again believe anything that we said you see what I mean? And then the next day my my wife saw the teacher and the teacher said we'd better see the principle which I did and well. That's when I took betsy out of school. You took betsy out of school. Yes yes I well. I'm sorry to say. Newspapers got wind of the matter and when I refused to see a reporter. He sneaked into the yard question betsy when she was out playing and took a picture of the reporter wrote it up and what. I guess he thought was a very amusing style is well if recall it was captioned. Leave Eriksson's descendants. Live here. Well yeah boy. We've been razzed all weekend. And I think Betsy was quoted as saying my great great great great great grandfather. Leave Ericsson discovering America. And it's true because my daddy said so. Yeah well. Betsy gathered a little muddled when my wife was signed to explain the Vikings and Norwegian ancestry. I mean you know children get things mixed up and go. Yeah Yeah Yeah sure well. It's all settle now Mr Crenshaw izzy. We talked to the teacher and the principal over the weekend. And then they'll go very nice. Teacher is going to explain to Betty's plans today right. I don't know what he's GonNa say exactly but something so that he will realize their parents do know something complete dunces where Piper. I wish somebody would explain something to me so I know you're not a complete done trying to run me out of business. Little PIZZA MEAN. This has got nothing to do with the business. Nothing to do it. I'm supposed to be reputable businessman. I'm supposed to have intelligent. Employees helping me run that business instead of it comes out on the front page of the local newspaper for everybody in town to see that. My general foreign sales manager is apparently a nincompoop. Who doesn't even know who discovered a minute Mr Grant. I explained my college graduate. I didn't even go to college. I must have made man and I'm proud of it. What did you take up eating college? All these highfalutin psychology is about. This has nothing to do with what I studied in college crenshaw had nothing to do with who really I mean well it did get away but the the point my wife and I were trying to make a point. I'm making is what's going to happen if they get wind of this in. Italy is like we are in the import export business. Yes I think I'm aware of that. Mr Kranj I can't see what that has to do was Italian or didn't they teach you would yes. I know that I know that. But we'll let that still doesn't have important Venetian glass and laze from vanish. We Import Florentine. Silver Jewelry from Naples is since you were there last year to do it. You were my representative. You personally met everyone of Italian clients to whom Columbus is as much a national hero as here in America my best to claim we cannot. We cannot afford to offend anyone. I didn't say anything against Columbus. I don't deny that it is generally accepted the Columbus discovering America. Really I mean. Forgive me for saying so but this is ridiculous to worry about any such thing. Well yes I looked into crane to begin with how in blazes what anybody in Italy here of some trivial cell called human interest stories. Small Long commutes play right. I mean really well let me tell you something man. This is just the type of so called human interest story that some other newspaper Guy would love to get his teeth into just to be funny. If nothing else shall we wings overseas perhaps is on it so it appears and a paper in Genoa where Columbus was born guy. He's endings early. Various Congress Repudiate Columbus appealed it Congress. That is without doubt the most absurd. Did you ever read a newspaper account? Show yes Friday. I was mentioned. You might say. And that's these interviews all right. We're in quite the facts. A the facts are there but the way the guy wrote it up makes them sound different. I mean I guess he was saw because I wouldn't talk to them. I mean we didn't want any publicity. Oh he made a good story out of it and somebody else might pick this up for his newspaper and make an even better story out of it. It isn't what they say is what they don't say now. I don't want any repercussions in any Italian newspapers. Mr Crenshaw forgive me but you are making a mountain out of nothing. We came out of the jeopardize our business affairs. There's ain't nothing of international relations. International Relate mant trivial remark break and diplomatic relations. Oh one of the FAEROES. Egypt declared war on Crete because one of them said his wife knows was too long. Now I want you to call the newspapers say you WanNa make a retraction retention of what I want you to say. This whole thing was just a joke that actually you really believe Columbus discovered America Mr Crenshaw to begin with I never said anything against Columbus now. No I won't do any such thing. Well I don't want to be a hard man. I'll give you a few days to think it over. I have my business. Consider as either that or Lampe ask you for your resignation gene. How ridiculous pay. Glenn Challenge the couple next door April twenty fifth nineteen sixty on Classic Radio Theater. We're out of time. We'll see you next time. Tell your friends. Great Radio shows are right here at this spot on the dial classic. Radio Theater on your favorite station and the USA Radio Network This is Derek Reilly Auto Parts Story. After the third time jump starting my car. 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All right now. Let's see how you make on the quiz. George Mr Feminine. Would you mind explaining the south? You Bet as much of your twenty dollars want each four questions and the couple earns the most money gets a chance of the fifteen hundred dollars. Soda Plymouth Question at the end of the show. Let's see how high can budget twenty dollars USA like the stars have had pictures of Nineteen fifty five question? How much in the twenty would you try to one of the finest actors have the title and father of the bride? What is his name? Spencer Tracy is right. Let's thirty five dollars. Maybe going for one thousand five hundred dollars now. How much is thirty five? You'RE GONNA risk thirty thirty dollars. What grade Broadway stop played the title role and serenade divisor? Jose Dollars Unite Question. How much of the sixty five okay? Sixty dollars host on hobby Jimmy Stewart. On your way you have one hundred twenty five dollars is your last chance to beat the other couples. How Much One hundred twenty five k? Bed at all. You may have to go back Idaho on a salmon. What English actress opposite Stewart? Granger in King Solomon's Mines Contemporary Zebra. Thanks good luck from the Gotcha because this is a public school. We invited some principles to the program. Tonight you and just before we went on the air. Our studio audience selected. Mr Robert. Purdie is partner is a housewife from the studio audience. Mrs Elizabeth Ramesh and here they are folks come. In here Groucho Marx. Welcome alive say the statewide and divide one hundred dollars. It's a common. It's something you'll find around the house. Let's see Mr Fighting. You're you're the principal. And where are you from carver? Junior high school in Los Angeles. You were born right in college high school. Were you afraid you'd be late for school. My hometown is Whitefish Montana. Whitefish Montana show sounds like an aquarium letter. You from Mrs Raymond. I come from Germany from Dresden. That's high on the outskirts of Dresden. Germany I was half Dresden. Germany how long have you been away from Dresden? Since Ninety Ninety three and what sort of work does your husband do address? That sounds like a German name hairdresser. How'd you meet him? Apollo is no. I didn't pull the wool over his eyes. I tell you I was a I was just five days and took a job as a position as a nurse to them. We spend vacation and lack of accidents in Axon on the Delaware River back. And I of course couldn't go out to even in your head watch children and so I used to sit on the FIS cave one evening all of a sudden something get into this waiting for this and I was begging for this I was thinking minding my own business watching dos and moon. Something flew over the fence and it looked very much like a veg flew over the fence. Yeah was it. The Rag in the Hesse feed the young man stood before me and he said I beg your pardon. Of course I didn't know what he was talking about but anyway he's took their kind and passed and he was holding the Bekker's pans getting being tono. What offends you see went weeks. It's on key kicked him over the fence. You and the dog you got married. Let's talk about your school. Let's see what was the name of the school year principal well. I'd better be careful with my grandmother. I did I spend my subjunctive. I do think he ended your sentence with a preposition I did. I did that. Preposition of a sneak. In how would you do it? Prince of which school are you principle? Confused brands you are at least. That's the story spreading around spreading around. Let's get back to my question. Which school are you? The principle of donate nullify carver. Junior high school tell mystified by the way Mr Sound so far. Would you mind being called Bob? That's right you sure you don't mind being called. Although I I like it attention. All pupils have Kara. Hi Down to see the principal. Remember he wants you to call Mr Party. Which gives you the most trouble students teachers parents answering that question. That gives me more trouble than anything I can think of. You realize it caused you just split an infinitive. I expect from you embarrassed. I can say that's becoming common English usage. Well if I have Mr Pruitt even on this show. We prefer that. You didn't split your infinitive. We have many impressionable children listening. You're setting unforgivably poor example. I want you to stay after the program right one hundred times on the blackboard. I am Schlemiel to spend enlightening having a principal facetime. We ever had any principles on this program. Play eventually twenty dollars in the more than our other couples. You'll get a crack at the fifteen hundred dollar question. Mr Chairman off stage remind our listeners. How much the first couple of what? The girls from the five and ten in the guide from Idaho. One two hundred fifty dollars all. Let's say twenty dollars. You selected North American Rivers. And you ought to be pretty good at this. Is Your first question. How much of the Twenty Fifty Fifteen fifteen dollars? What is the name of the river that Mark Twain wrote Mississippi Charge thirty five dollars? Fifteen hundred dollars nine hundred ninety five. You'RE GONNA try since he's thirty eighty dollars. What is the name of the Alaskan River site is a highway for the gold miners? Yukon? Yukon's right the sixty five dollars. How much would you bet you? I'm sixty sixty five dollars. Sixty what is the name of the river that separates the United States from Mexico? Rio Grande Rio Grande. The one hundred and twenty five dollars in that school you she said one hundred twenty Mrs Reinisch. If you don't go ahead I'm gonNA tell that raggedy heisman on you all right hamming but help twenty boulder dam forms lake me. The largest man made lake in the world. What is the name of the river that supplies water to this lake? Colorado one hundred twenty five dollars from the Saudi Glendale Araujo. We invited some girls who worked for the telephone company. Who our program tonight and just before we went on the air studio audience selected. Miss Gretchen. Adam her Partner is a man who answered our newspaper advertisement for people with unusual stories. To tell he's Mr L. Jennings books beat Groucho Marx. Well how are you doing? Welcome for the disorder. Plymouth dealers say. The singer widened. Divide one hundred dollars. It's a common way something of final round the house you for the telephone company. Miss Adam where are you from Gretchen? How old are you twenty? Four twenty four where? You don't look like twenty three and a half this val jennings. When were you born in the middle of the civil war you mean you were shut out of a cannon? You're not you're not general grant action. Oh how old are you Mr Jennings Eighty seven years? Look it I thought you were about twenty three and a half. You've taken very good care of yourself. Shot seven times. You shot seven times. Hey showed wants Noah Nice. Fourteen time going Virginia. Oh you're a son of Dick CA yesterday for the next time you see Dixie. Tell one of her old beaus was asking me about Mr Jennings. You were chosen because you have an unusual story to tell us just what is your occupation train robber. What's unusual about this? My best friend trainer. You're not serious. I really train robber. One of the best. I don't WanNa see nosy but I still robbing trains. No I retired the trains. Get too fast for you. The lull off by the way. That doesn't happen to be rewarded for you. Doesn't it that one time there's fifteen thousand dollars on my head that second. You're curious place to keep fifteen dollars off. Nobody might have stolen a lot of crooks around you know. Come to think of it. You face doesn't look familiar. Haven't I seen it hanging in the post office for forty seven years shows you how often I go to the postal? Let's change the conversation to a comparatively honest object like the phone company rich so she telephone company. Westwood Westwood for the Associated Telephone Company. Is that part of the bell system. No we're independent independent. What phone company isn't have? You tried to get your chops for this outfit. Oh we take new service and Complaints and change of service. I heard the phone company was broke. Somebody told me it was in the has the receivers that right. Let's see story Why do you? Why did you stop? Robbing Trains and Robbing Banks. Hoping to crooked question you get crooked. Let's put it this way. What made you decide to become an outlaw and murdered. My brother. Might've your brother shut him in the back. What Line of work were you doing before you were bankrupt? County attorney of Canadian County Oklahoma or you were a lawyer to yes. That's why I decided to become a band that you wanted to go straight talk. What was your biggest holder about seventy five thousand dollars? How did that happen well? I had an inside information that the money was there from an honest citizen. Well how did they find the cash you did you forget to file an income tax retain? No I was betrayed. Shut up quite a bit. Who betrays you this fellow? Who tipped you off to stay with? You ran around with a fine gang do you. After they caught you did they. Did they hang? You know they sent me up for the period of my natural life and five years besides and how long did you say three years and four months and I was commuted by McKinley through mark? Hanna and then I was rearrested. And taking for five years more and I beat the rid of scrapers Eightyish Fokkers April twenty fifth one thousand nine hundred fifty one Groucho Marx. And you bet your life here on Classic Radio Theater. We encourage you to participate in the GIFT CARD. Challenge these days. We all probably know of a local business. 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The conclusion of you bet your life April twenty fifth nineteen fifty one and the secret word is still wall W. A. L. L. Did rid of heavier scrapers covers. I don't mind. Hey this is all pretty easy to do fairly why was that? Why did you get off with such a light sentence? Didn't really you see. I'm a good many friends. Independent Distinction Burglars and pickpockets bankers and lawyers and businessmen. They had all representatives to get out of there and leave all these fine fellows. No look I really got weary of it too much the same thing. Too much stealing on the inside could what happened then. I gotTa Pardon Theodore Roosevelt through all the presidency. He gave me well. It's been very entertaining talking to you too and I may call on you one of these days. I can't crack over my daughter's piggy bank so I'll give you a buzz. One day on Gretchen telephone. Now let's say you're going to make up for the fifteen hundred dollars. You run twenty bucks in the more than our other couples. I can't tell you how much they won. Just GonNa remind our listen. The girl from the five and ten and the guide from Idaho are still leading with two hundred fifty dollars. Here we go. Let's say a high budget twenty dollars. You selected nicknames. Have States his vice question. How much of the twenty dollars? You'RE GONNA risk this fifteen dollars. What state is known as the Hawkeye State? One answer between now and Pennsylvania. So I'm sorry I Alwa- and you must rob trains. You're going for fifteen hundred dollars and I know how much of the five five dollars? How much of the five dollars? You're going to bet on your second question. Yes two and a half. Here's a man that fifteen thousand dollars on his head. What state is known as the Wolverine State Michigan Is Ryan? And you've got in just on the line seven dollars and fifty cents question. How much of this fifty? You'RE GONNA try five dollars. What state is known as the sooner State Oklahoma Oklahoma twelve dollars and fifty cents? You're climbing alleys. You last chance to beat the other couple of twelve and a half. You'RE GONNA go for all of them. Okay what state is known as the corn husker state talking. I'm sorry it's Nebraska. Well we can't let you go. Wait and have flat broken. L I Q Ken. Anybody going away broke. I'll give you one more question. Get arrive and you will win ten dollars and helping. The audience know ready. From what state do we get Washington? Apples WHY GROUCHO. That means that the girl from the five and ten and the hunting guide with two hundred and fifty dollars. Get the chance of the Zona Plymouth. One thousand five hundred dollars. And here's the girls and the Gen and hunting guide the winning couple already for the Sodo Plymouth. Fifteen hundred dollar question all right here come those experts and salmon fishing and this will give you a chance to make round trip on that river up there. 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I wonder if you'd have mutual record service chicken see if he was ensured his name was Walter Neighborly Burke Arc Jonathan Wells widow was previously married to burke they were married at the time of his death and he also died suddenly mysteriously smoke. Just call her murdering. Oh you have met a day. She just a sweet old lady was little bad luck now and then and she regards death as the doorway to a greater and more glorious life would is. She didn't keep slamming the door from tonight. And every Weekday Night Bob Bailey into transcribe adventures of the man with the action packed. Expensive Car America's fabulous freelance insurance investigator truly Johnny Dot Com from special investigator. Johnny Dollar Location Chicago to the Home Office Northwestern Shady Company Hartford Connecticut assignment. The lonely hearts matter expense account continued. I eight seven dollars and sixty five cents. Dinner normal wells myself. It was brought up by room service and wait alone in. My sweet. Didn't feel like facing the dining room. I was still trying to figure her when she come to me. With a claim that her father had been poisoned by his stepmother for his insurance. I tagged HER JEALOUS HYSTERICAL. Kit and still wants but now the autopsy report and it was more than that she was right. Jonathan Wells had been poisoned and again when she told me someone was hanging around her apartment. I believe but by now I was about ready to believe anything swoon. I couldn't beat it by you. Needed it you've been going on nothing but nerve still be until this is all over. Well he shouldn't take long now. That autopsy report gives us the green light. Police are moving now and we can put the pressure on. It's it's such a terrible thing. Why six months ago. When she married him she was planning is right. Then it looks that way aura. Father was always so good to me as into that worthless. Nephew of hers Burton freely. What kind of a mind is person? Have MR dollar. Do a thing like she did. It hasn't been prove yet that she's the one who did it. Miss Wells no but who else could have. I don't know more coffee. Thanks well French. We'll take a taxi over to your apartment and pick up whatever you need and then get you a room here at the hotel. Don't think you're in danger. But I imagine you'll feel a lot less nervous here and I do appreciate your your help and kindness to go to part of my job on this time when you check in you. Go to your room and stay put. What do you mean when I came back from talking to Mabel Burke Max Lancet from the DA's office waiting for me down in the lobby said he'd phone here to the room? Five or six times got no answer. I was here. I I heard the phone but I didn't know if you wanted me to answer bellboy up to knock on the door. I must have been in a shower. I was here all the time. Don't you believe me any reason? I shouldn't believe reading okay. So let's go expense account Adam. Nine dollar eighty cents taxi from the hotel. The normal wells apartment night had fallen over the city and the tall buildings of the loop shimmered above the noisy blaze of lights. Laughing groups have early. Dinner Goers Jostle through the scrambling packs shepherds auto horns blaring jazz. News boys traffic whistles. Hurry hurry hurry yesterday. Never was tomorrow's only dream and today's nearly gone so hurry it up and let's get going. We'll sleep when we're dead like Jonathan Wells on his cool marble slab in the city. More Department see the next door on the left. Have Key here somewhere sure? It's not locked how you were scared when you'll have no. I remember locking the door. Sure yes now. It's number. What IS IT MR dollar. Oh so you've had visitors Miss Wells. Who TURNED UPSIDE DOWN? Why would anyone want to do? They're looking for something. Probably I duNno sports. You look around seaview notice anything missing. It's no use MR dollar. I've gone through the whole place twice now and I'm certain that nothing's been taken for. They had to have some reason to break in here. Go through everything this way post Selby. Well I'm positive nothing missing. There isn't arisen. Well these supposed copywriting until I think so. Come in the kitchen. I guess you believe me now. Somebody was hanging around here earlier today. Just wish I could figure out what their actor looks. Plenty strong sugar there on the table. I'll get some cream from the refrigerator. Don't bother am icons not me. I used plenty of both lots and lots of cream to heat team spoons of sugar. They must have had a reason to break in here. There wasn't a steal something then. What was the reason sugar? Look funny doesn't make sense at all to keep it covered sugar. I was saying it looked funny. Maybe they broke into leave something. Leave something here. Give me that cup. The spoon what are you doing? Look it's funny. Didn't even dissolve. The sugar dissolved alright. This boom around glass iphone Max Lancer and had him sent over a policewoman to accompany normal wells back to the hotel get checked in and stay with their overnight. Then I call the whales resonance lady answered the phone herself. I asked for her nephew burden. Creevy she said he wasn't it so on and off chance. I took a taxi to the office of the Rendezvous Club. Lonely hearts unlimited. There was no light showing behind the transom over the door was on. Locked fumbled around for a light switch. Somebody beat me to it and at least I've found you in this time doing Hawaii. What they've gone away really or if you're GONNA to use it you better take the safety off I safe. What are you talking about all right? Thanks think you'll get away with Mr. You're crazy Mama's steak. The safety was off. Sorry to rough you up what people go around pointing guns at people. Without any reason for it you broke in here. That's illegal entry. I'll have you arrested. And why not the phones right behind you Johnny Dollar. I'm a special investigator for the Northwest Insurance Company. I imagine the name is familiar to us since they're holding a fifty thousand dollar life insurance policy on the late Jonathan Wells with your aunt Mabel named as beneficiary. What are you doing here looking for you? As a matter of fact what for I wanted to ask you why you sneak down through the door the other day in the office when I was here earlier. I don't know what you're talking about. Knock off really. You'RE GONNA in such a hurry. Lsu Cigar burning there and the ashtray. The same brand smoking right now. I thought you were a bill collector. You knew who I was. You are listening there at the door when I talked to secretary. And why'd you run out all right all right? I didn't know you were Mr William. Misinterpreting thing no kidding and I was late for an appointment. I I didn't get tied up. I figured you could find out anything you wanted to know. From my end I I saw no necessity for talking to you. I see where have you been since then right here? Most of the time the rest of the time. What difference does it make? You went over a normal wells apartment by chance I keep kidding. I test that go. Because she's a smug self-satisfied little phony. He's too big for Britches. What makes you think I'd be hanging around her? Somebody was I. Don't get somebody broke into our apartment this afternoon or this evening turned it upside down. She hasn't got anything I want. They didn't take anything they broke into. Leave something I've found some ground glass planet in her sugarbowl. Grandma glass sound familiar. What are you getting at? You mean you haven't heard about the coroner's report. Jonathan Wells know why. What has that got. Wells died from a dose of ground. Glass you mean he was killed. I don't imagine he ate the stuff intentionally. You can't believe the police not having that trouble. Just can't imagine anybody nice guy he always got along fine with everybody including you. Yes we got to be good friend. What about his daughter Norma? I don't really know she blow a top moved out a month after aunt Mabel. Jonathan were Mary. Why Jealous I guess. She couldn't stand it to see your father paying attention to anybody but her they quarrel much. Jonathan never called with anybody know she just seemed to go around with a mad on most of the time. She's a rare when that what do you mean. Oh she seems to think of a self is a princess or something. I understand you made quite a play for for suppose. She told you that did you. I tried to be friendly to her. That's all I. I don't know what she chose to call it. I'm engaged to miss the girl that works here in the office What do you do for a living creating take care of this? Correspondents Club's rent may have got sort of a heart condition. I can't work to IC- might be a good idea if you check in with the police. They'll probably want to talk to you or who did they? Did it well? They haven't arrested anybody yet. But there are a lot of straws pointing in one direction. What Direction Toward Your Mabel? I'm afraid that's ridiculous. She may be a little vague not quite all wizard. Maybe but she wouldn't do a thing like that the framers. That's what they're doing. Wells had a motive. Mr Karim daughter she stands to gain by all this. She inherits the estate. Maybe faked that burglary planted the ground glass in her apartment itself. Have you thought of that? Mr Dollar Yeah. I've thought of it. Now here's all star to tell you about tomorrow's intriguing. Episode of this week story on another murder comes to light another link in a long chain and an old lady weeps for the wasted years. Join US won't you yours. Truly Johnny Dollar Yours truly Johnny dollar starring. Bob Bailey is transcribed in Hollywood written by Les Crutchfield. It is produced and directed by Jack. 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Matt Christie talks Inoue, Callum Smith and Wilder

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

50:26 min | 1 year ago

Matt Christie talks Inoue, Callum Smith and Wilder

"I'm Tony Value on your listening to the toe to toe podcast Hello and welcome to this. Week's addition of ringside toe to talk with boxing. PODCAST exclusive skysports. I'm Andy Clarke. And this week I'm joined by man who was probably seen it all happen in a boxing ring Matt Christie at. It's a foxing news now. Say He's probably seen. It all happened in a boxing ring. One thing that you probably never thought you would see is to people who eighteen months pseudo. Neither risks linked accurate to say that ever heard of packing out the staple center and shifting an unbelievable amount of pay per views then views online and and Kassai and Logan Pool too. So what did you make all Yes good question I I wasn't overly in love with an idea when it was announced. It's not so much the fact that these these guys get in a ring and settling their differences that were I had a problem with is the fact that it was licensed. Boxing was getting involved I fail and I still feel that they should be two separate things. I felt that having professional boxing a professional boxing card in Los Angeles with the likes Colegio. Saunders Endeavoring Haney and then being topped by two people effectively making their debut who were obviously novices. Perhaps not just not a great advertisement for the sport of boxing. However we can't deny it was probably a very good advertisement for the characters Logan Paul and chaos I It generated a lot of interest. But do we need to take the head. God's off them and tell them their fighters I don't think so and but I'm not so I'm I'm not so blinking that I can't see the commercial value in it. So should they perhaps. Just just have the celebrity boxing with a youtube boxing. Just keep it separate from from the professional national boxing after you can have a lot of fun with it. Yeah I agree with all of that because the the difficulty with it is. Is that when you when you follow this week in week out out and g would regard yourself as as a purist. You don't want to be seen to be someone who is just not set in their ways and resilient and resistant to all kinds of change but they should not be licensed as professionals because they're not experienced enough and there's a safety issue that worried me before this was the one of the Marquette hurt because they're not used to taking punches Che's and like you I just don't see why they had to be licensed as professionals at the California State Athletic Commission just sold their soul on this one basically. There's there's no other way to to say it to be honest. I think we I think you mentioned there. One of them had nothing. The one punch the acronym landing was the CO in round four and chaos. I I went down. There was a few punches illegal punches that followed with the amount of time he was given because he was clearly on another planet for a while. he was. He was clearly suffering there but in a license fight. That wouldn't have had that pours in it for the amount of time. There's almost this concession that these guys are not professionals there so we'll due to me that that it was fine to have the break but not if it's a licensed fight but again I mean I felt an element of admiration for with them. They had clearly put the time in. We all know how difficult it is to go and SPA for three minutes as a newcomer let alone fight fight for eighteen minutes so I had I had real real admiration for them But the concept and the spectacle not so much it was a strange watch for me because I can't let it sail past me during the week of kept my eye on the build up and my only objectionable longs just the pro thing that it was a and WanNa watch the fight and I could see how could see the nerves could see the desire to to perform into win and I kind of I didn't start to feel sorry for the Morton I didn't start to. PT Them. But I look to them and just while these these two are really you know the going for it here and there trying not ever can never say they're not but then I found that ten third by just the obsolete nonsense came. What would your fight week about whether ability level like if they haven't said any of that than I would have had nothing but the gration for the two of them? I think that as it was I just just look to that I just saw some crass tasteless things I'd say when they're just come on I think I think that was the danger of of Kinda putting him in that environment environment putting him in in in a professional license boxes environment that they would go through the various tests that they would so they they thought they were boxes. They were trying to behave. Lightboxes says but ultimately a lot of the stuff. I I completely agree with you. A lot of those coming out their mouth but let's give them a bit of credit not completely blame them as well because things were certainly being putting their mouth in NFL NFL to sell the fight. And but overall I think in a made this point in in this week's issue additional box and use are made the point that to do at times during not find. I didn't watch it live. I watched on the Catcher but ten o'clock the following morning. There were times during that fight where I found it quite hard to watch but at the same time I completely understood. Stood that me a staunch hardcore boxing fan was not the target audience. skysports understood that I was not the target audience and and that was absolutely fine. Totally it wasn't for us was not that that's absolutely true. And and you're right. I I think it is a way of making these. We talk about some profiles being refund fights though William if there's a way of making this like that then then fine because they've got this massive fan base got this huge support and but they don't have have to try and be menacing and behave Mike Tyson because they're not Mike Tyson and and they never will be and that's that's just how it is as for whether we will see more of them. I don't even know if we're really qualified to answer this because we're not. We're not the audience. I do wonder whether the Youtube Youtube fans the chaos I and Logan pull fans thought that they would see when this all started. Thought while this'll be great because we'll see a rocky top fight because because if all the fighting you've ever seen this fictional fighting on TV or film Dan I could see what you might think that we know the device he considered rocky a madness every now and again. Can you get something approaching that gase ward. You know the go to example but they can put that on because they're brilliant boxes and really tough have given the whole life to it signals. This is inevitable to do that. Which makes me think possibly Saturday might have been the perfect storm and it won't ever be that big again but maybe maybe ap they they are just happy to watch them at whatever level are doing? I mean the thing that concerns me a little bit again. Speak with my with my box. News editor head on It was a little glimpse into into the future. where it which? We don't really know which way it's going. His disciples so much the such a taste for this kind of thing doc the but I must be a Hobo. IB moves on our hope that the rivalry between youtube is move on. But it wouldn't surprise me to see to see this kind of thing to see. This kind of thing happened again. Atoll would not surprise me in the slightest but is going to be a limit. I mean we spoke before we is going to happen will. We'll s on Youtube is licensed for the British boxing. Board of Control would be astonished if if the British Boxing Board of Control to do that but then you look at the situation with Freddie Freddie flintoff tough so we'll they and any STA but no going back to your point. I don't think that the quality is there to sustain this long term. I just don't think I just don't think there is. I mean but then as I'm saying now I then think to the reaction. The appeared to be in the crowd in Los Angeles when fights went when punches were missing by inches and the whole crowd was going absolutely bonkers like they just witnessed. You know the best left Hook in history so you know. Perhaps they're ETAP stay there there little not quite hard to please his you and I are. We don't know yeah I mean that's that's that's exactly it. We're just not really we can't really answer. I mean I. I've just kind of always assumed that nobody really wants to watch Eddie Wall now sleep matter who they are do something badly certainly not more than twice And you know if they would have third fighter nineteen get will necessarily be any better standard wise maybe a bit and if two new ones came in the best you could hope for would be that it would be as good because as far as as good if that's the right phrase because as far as like none of