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Fresh update on "president" discussed on AM Tampa Bay
"The intercoastal waterways. Anything where the red tide Fishkill might, uh Have an effect, Scientists have observed a large bloom about a mile and a half west of Northern Clearwater Beach again, It's all expected to keep moving northward for a few more days with a signature. The president creates a new national holiday Commemorating the day all Americans became free. More from growing up foxes. Gurnal Scott, It is the first federal holiday created an almost four decades celebrating the freedom of all slaves. President, Biden said. Bipartisanship.
Israel Strikes Gaza Again After Militants Set Fires in Israel
"Laden balloons fired by Hamas militants. NPR's Deborah Amos reports from Jerusalem another night of strikes in the Gaza Strip more intensive than the previous night, according to an Israeli military spokesman. The strikes are in response to the launch of balloons ladened with explosives from the Hamas controlled enclave. Throughout the day. The balloons ignited fires along Israel's southern border. There were no reported casualties. These two days of rising tension threatened to unravel a ceasefire that came in May after a Seven days of rocket strikes in Israel and airstrikes in Gaza. Deborah Amos NPR NEWS Jerusalem Zambia's founding president and a champion of
Fresh "President" from Coast to Coast AM with George Noory
"Gamble responsibly Gambling problem. Call 805 2 to 4700 kfbk. Sacramento KFBK FM bollock fine Sacramento's number one for breaking news, local news, traffic and weather. 93.1 KFBK from ABC News. I'm Richard Cantu. Most federal workers may be sleeping in today they have the day off. It's a national holiday. Juneteenth Day marking the end of slavery. President Biden signing the bill establishing the 12 federal holiday only been president for Several months. I think this book of down for me. It's one of the greatest honors. I would have had his president, not because I did it. You did it. Democrats and Republicans holiday being observed today because June 19 falls on Saturday this year. Tropical storm warnings up proportions of the Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama Gulf coasts of potential tropical cyclone is advancing as it moves from the southwestern Gulf of Mexico into the Gulf Coast. We're looking at a landfall sometime late Friday night into Saturday morning that will be west of New Orleans. So that means that New Orleans and parts of Gulf Port Mississippi up through Mobile, Alabama, they're going to get the dirty side of the system, so that's where the heaviest rain is going to set up. ABC News meteorologist Melissa Griffin areas could get a foot of rain. A tubing expedition turned to terror on the Dan River in North Carolina's Rockingham County. At least three people were killed when a group of tubers went over a power plants. Damn. They were all tied together. Um, but at one point, several of the tubes came apart and Floated over the dam Sheriff's Lieutenant Kevin Southern, the pretty steep drop from the river over the dam there, and it's dangerous for the tubers were rescued to remain unaccounted for. In Iowa City, Iowa. Trump supporting Army veteran Michael McKinney pleaded guilty to two felony charges for firing a handgun into a car full of black girls who are arguing with pro trump agitators near the Iowa State House in Des Moines back in December, wounding one Two counts each come with up to 10 years in prison. Prosecutors dropped four other charges, calling the plea agreement generous..
Biden Signs Juneteenth Bill, Establishing Federal Holiday Marking End of Slavery
"President Biden signs a bill making June 19th 12th federal holiday. Biden says. Juneteenth celebrates the June 19th 18 65 end of slavery, the beginning of the struggle for equality for blacks and acknowledges the nation's dark history. Great nations don't ignore the most painful moments. They don't ignore those moments in the past, they embraced them. Great nations Don't
House Overwhelmingly Votes to Make Juneteenth a Federal Holiday
"Day. One hundred forty nine of the biden administration the president now back on. Us soil is now his attention back to his towering list of domestic priorities crippled by the math and lack of movement and congress. President biden aiming for bipartisan support. For at least some of his proposal still today as he signed legislation making juneteenth the federal holiday in our country. He invoked that very sentiment. I'm especially pleased that we showed the nation that we come together as democrats and republicans to commemorate this day with overwhelming. Bipartisan support of the congress. I hope this is the beginning of a change in the way we deal with one another. And here's what he mentioned there. The juneteenth bill passed with unanimous support in the us senate ones the last time that happened
Kim Jong-Un Ready for ‘Dialogue and Confrontation’ With U.S.
"Kim Jong UN, has said his country needs to prepare for both for dialogue and confrontation with the US on the president Biden at a meeting of senior leaders, he said North Korea should be fully prepared for confrontation in order to protect the dignity of the state and reliably guarantee what he called a peaceful environment.
Dems Eye $6T Plan on Infrastructure, Medicare, Immigration
"Hi Mike Rossi a reporting Democrats have set their sights on a six trillion dollar national investment plan if congressional Democrats decide to go it alone on president Biden's infrastructure investment plan they plan to go big Democrats are eyeing a six trillion dollar investment plan that would go beyond roads and bridges to pet projects like lowering Medicare eligibility to age sixty and adding dental vision and hearing benefits details were confirmed by aides who spoke on condition of anonymity while president Biden still has hopes of striking a deal with Republicans the emerging strategy for Democrats is to get what they can in a bipartisan agreement and then tackle the rest on their own the bipartisan negotiating group that number ten senators until Wednesday has now grown to twenty one with eleven Republicans Mike Crossey up Washington
President Biden, Galveston And Texas discussed on AP News Radio
"The nation has a new federal holiday commemorating the end of slavery June nineteenth eighteen sixty five the day known as Juneteenth when sleeves in Galveston Texas learned they were free president Biden has signed into law a bill making get the twelfth federal holiday this is Dave profound in my view profound weight and profound power a day the nation remembers when he calls the moral stain of slavery and its capacity to heal it's the first new federal holidays since Martin Luther king junior day was created nearly four decades ago Sager
Biden Signs Juneteenth Bill, Establishing Federal Holiday Marking End of Slavery
"President Biden currently signing a bill establishing Juneteenth. As a federal holiday. Juneteenth marks the end of slavery in the US. The legislation was passed by the House and Senate with unusual speed this week. The Juneteenth National Independence Day is the first new federal holiday that has been created in
Biden Signs Bill Making Juneteenth a Federal Holiday
"A ceremony at the White House. He's about to sign a bill making Juneteenth a federal holiday. The House approved the bill, sending the bill to the president. It's the first new federal holiday since Martin Luther King Day was created in 1983 governor. Pritzker also signed a bill to make Juneteenth a state holiday on Wednesday.
'Obamacare' survives: Supreme Court dismisses big challenge
"The Supreme Court has dismissed another challenge to the Obama era health care law preserving insurance coverage for millions of Americans the Supreme Court has just ruled the ACA is here to stay Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer was quick to hail the ruling by seven to two vote the justices left the entire affordable Care Act intact ruling that Texas and others who sued to have it scrapped failed to show they have the standing to attack it as unconstitutional they've gone after the laws mandate that people have health insurance or pay a penalty but that requirement became toothless when Congress reduced the penalty to zero four years ago meanwhile poll suggests the law has grown in popularity something president Biden and other Democrats like Schumer are looking to build on and now we're gonna try to make it bigger and better established once and for all affordable healthcare as a basic right of every American citizen Ben Thomas Washington
Rep. Andy Biggs on Why Dr. Fauci Should Claim Responsibility for His Mistakes
"Is a public figure to even worse. He's not even elected like he has a job, no matter what. And there's this whole like victim Fauci Movement Congressman. I find kind of repulsive. It's not personal. He made really bad decisions and being that public dollars have paid him When you agree to open to public scrutiny. It's all fair game. He is fair game. He is a target. He is the guy. He may not have implemented the policy, but he encouraged the policy decisions that every government at every level Enacted over this country lockdowns these the bogus mask wearing I mean people still wearing masks, even though that that that's come out as being bogus. The notion on President Trump saying, Well, it seems to have some some positive impact. He basically poo pooed that and if, if it works, like the latest study indicates that it does, and a host of a myriad of other studies, he bears the guilt or the culpability. Of people being sick people dying, He bears the culpability of an economy that lost millions of jobs, the emotional and mental illness that resulted because of his His policy advocacy. Here's the guy that they were looking to, Um and everybody used him as a justification for everything they were doing. So he has to stand up to the scrutiny because he's the guy that profound ID those policies. It's that simple.
President Trump on Hannity Calls Biden More Radical Than Bernie Sanders
"Joe Biden right now, you know makes uh It makes Bernie Sanders look like an offshoot of Ronald Reagan. I mean, that's how left Joe Biden is gone. So President Trump rightly so. I was like, Hey, listen, if you voted for this guy, you got sucker sucker Sorry at Here's clip number two from Hannity last night, President Trump commenting on the leftward lurch to the Democrat Party. And by the way, I'm gonna show you again. The guy's not kidding. He's not exaggerated. We come back from this clip. I'll give you a story from the Wall Street Journal. That should have you frightened. You own a house house gone up in value. Well, you better not be a liberals. You'd be paying taxes on that suit. Check this out. They lied They You know they didn't talk to us. They never said this is a Bernie Sanders dream. What's happening right now? He can't believe it because this is far worse than Bernie was ever going to be. Bernie Sanders would have never even thought to suggest some of the things that are happening right now. We got the millionaires, the billionaires, and now he talks about the billionaires. We gotta stop those billionaires while Bernie You're a man. I know of a millionaire, but I'm talking about you idiots. Bernie said that isn't Bernie. Biggest fraud ever. Socialism? Always great for the top Socialists in charge. Everyone else gets screwed Pretty good. President Trump's not wrong. Joe Biden ran as a Scranton kids lunch bucket, Joe
Significant Evidence Piling up in Georgia About 2020 Election Inconsistencies
"From John Solomon's excellent sight. Just the news. About significant evidence piling up in Georgia now. Addition to an audit we have going in Arizona significant evidence piling up. That's something seriously went wrong in Georgia in 2020. There's a whole lot of questions missing absentee ballots. Listen, folks. If there's an answer to these questions, terrific. Nobody wants to have a fraudulent election. Correct. Does anyone have to be? I guess I'm all for fraudulent actions. I hope not. If there's a legitimate answer to these questions, that's wonderful. That's what everyone wants. However, I haven't heard the answer yet. And Solomon has some breaking news about Georgia last night. I read it when I got up this morning. Some former member of the Trump team sent it to me this morning. I sent them back. You know, uh, starry eyed emoji guy. You know the guy because I was like, Whoa, this sounds serious. So no mistake when I said in the opening of the show that we have to focus on 2022 2020 at the same time as a capitulation on either It's not. I always get a few emails, people who misread it. What are you saying and it from both sides, But he's saying focus on the last election. Not the next one. The other people say, What do you say and focus on the next one without to let no, that's I'm Parallel tasks, parallel tasks We have to do it. We have to do it. We don't have a choice. These primaries matter. President Trump's endorsement is going to be a game
Scotch Whisky Makers Welcome Suspension of Costly US Tariffs
"Scott single malt whisky makers and drinkers can breathe a sigh of relief because the US has agreed to suspend tariffs on the Scottish exports the move comes after a long standing trade route between the US and the E. U. has been resolved president Donald Trump and pays the twenty five percent tariffs in October twenty nineteen that's part of the trade dispute to the aerospace subsidies well the U. K. no longer is any member it belongs to the block when the tires were introduced the Scotch whisky association estimates that the tariffs led to a thirty percent full in total exports to the U. S. that's about the same as eight hundred and fifty million dollars since March twenty twenty one Karen Thomas landed
We Have to Be Project Managers of Elections and Conservative Principles
"Gave a speech this week at the Great Club 45. I've been talking about it all week in Palm Beach because I don't get out of my house at all. So these are really big events for me. It's like yes, I left. I went to a restaurant. So what? You don't understand? I never leave. But I gave this speech about a lot of great people. And 90% of the crowd understood that we have to fight on while still I hate the term getting to the bottom of, but let's just use it here for the sake of time getting to the bottom of what happened in 2020. Some people in the crowd about 10% didn't want to hear that. That's okay. I'm not here to lie to you. You your title to your opinion. Some people think we should focus on 2020 only and forget 2022 2024. It's not worth it until we do 2020. Your opinion. You're entitled to it. It is a free country with the big our God given right to speech. I just vigorously disagree. I know it's not efficient have to focus on two things to focus on two things strongly. And vigorously at the same time. President Trump clearly agrees. We darn well better get to the bottom of what happened in 2020. While simultaneously focusing on 2022. We can't just forfeit away 2022 because of 2020 shenanigans. I mean, how are we ever going to figure out what happened in 2020? If we continue to elect House Democrats and and and and Senate Democrats as well, you think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are going to help us in that endeavor? Of course they won't. That's absurd. We have to focus on parallel tracks. Regardless of the inefficiency of it. I get it. The human brain wants to focus on one thing at a time. We don't have that option. We don't have that luxury. We are election project managers. Now we are project managers for liberty and freedom right now. There is a liberty and freedom movement. You all are the anointed ones. Go in Peace to love and serve. You are the project managers for liberty. And we have to multitask.
A Hardline Act to Follow: Iran's Presidential Election
"Bet serena's in marathon. Iran's supreme leader ali khamenei is imploring citizens to go to the polls tomorrow to vote for their next president. It might seem that. They're being offered a real choice. A say in the direction their country goes in they know better hardline. Clerics are in the ascendant. Moderate or reform minded types are in short supply on the ballot. Mr a lambasted what he called the satanic centers of power in the world as the malign force in the election into what i'm bitter vija it's the consolidation of hardline theocratic. Power that he himself engineering that we'll keep voters at home. They've never really been free elections in the islamic republic since the revenues and mit nine. Nicholas the economists. Middle east correspondent clerics wheeled out and candidates can be disqualified for the flimsiest of reasons. Elections are highly orchestrated affairs even by these standards. Tomorrows presidential election is shaping up as a false. How so how is this. One worst than than previous ones. Nearly six hundred candidates applied to replace hudson. Ronnie the current president the guarding council a group of clerics and lawyers who vet candidates allowed just seven on the ballot and that call has removed any serious charges who faith a better economic and political ties with the west mr hominy. The supreme leader couldn't overruled the council and added more candidates to drum up enthusiasm but he chose not to instead. The regime has put all its effort into making one candidate. The president this is not meant to be in an election in other words. it's rather a coronation.
Bipartisan Infrastructure Group Swells to 20 Senators
"Hi Mike Crossey a reporting the bipartisan infrastructure group swells to twenty senators the bipartisan Senate group working on infrastructure compromise appeared to gain momentum Wednesday as the group doubled from ten senators to twenty as he was preparing to depart Geneva president Joe Biden told reporters I'm still hopeful we can put together cancer late Wednesday by did ministration officials were on Capitol Hill meeting with democratic senators in the bipartisan group drilling down on details of the compromise proposal earlier in the day Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer pushed ahead on the alternative Democrat only track that would seek to skirt the need for at least ten Republican votes to reach the sixty required to pass the package in the Senate Schumer convened a private meeting of Democrats on the Senate budget committee to set the groundwork for a majority passage process Mike Rossi Washington
Liberals like Biden Can Only Play Boogeyman Politics
"Our policies are a disaster on the sucks scale, you know, like a 98 and 100 on the scale of how bad a policy that sucked So what they do is they get you to try, you know, to vote or try to get you to vote for them by saying the other guy sucks worse. That's it. That's the whole liberal agenda. They rarely run on their agenda in swing districts. You know Nancy Pelosi's district, they can run on whatever they want. But in swing districts you almost never hear liberals say things like higher taxes are wonderful. Government controlled health care is fantastic. We're going to confiscate all your guns. It only works in San Francisco. They don't do it because sane Americans and swing districts don't give a crap about any of that stuff. I think it's all crazy. So their whole agenda is well, The other guy sucks a lot worse. So I call the boogeyman politics, But liberals are phone ease. And it's all AstroTurf in all made up here is a perfect example of boogeyman politics. Right here. Here's a clip from O and one American News It's about. Let's see 35 2nd song. Joe Biden needs a flash card to remind him he thinks everything is Trump's fault. Check this out. Joe Biden fiddles with a flash card of anti Trump talking points during a press conference in England. Biden branching the card label DOJ talking points while speaking Sunday in Cornwall. The cards include a number of preplanned answers. That's including a claim that Trump quote, abused power. And that is Justice Department was out of control. This is the DOJ inspector general has recently opened a review into the Trump era seizure of some House Democrats and staff data during a 2018 investigation. Into leaks about the Russia probe. Can't believe this guy is in charge. Sometimes I really can't. They said in a speech the other night down in, uh, West Palm Beach. I can't get around the fact that this guy is the president is just stunning his level of incompetence. He has a This is the President United States He has a flash card number one.
Lina Khan, Critic of Big Tech, to Lead Federal Trade Commission
"Yesterday the senate confirmed lena con to a seat on the federal trade commission. The thirty two year old columbia university professor has been a vocal critic of big tech companies and. She's advocated for sweeping changes to antitrust enforcement with her confirmation secured. President biden is designating her as ftc. Chair the post will allow her to pursue an aggressive antitrust and consumer protection agenda so for more on khan and how she could shape the ftc. Enjoy our legal affairs. Reporter brent kendall. Hey thanks for being here. Thanks for having me okay. So tell us about khan's background here. Where does she come from so she has been on the fast lane star track of the progressive movement in terms of antitrust which she was a reporter wrote pieces for different publications went to law school and wrote this law review article about amazon. The thesis which was that antitrust law just doesn't really work to restrain companies like amazon. And how they've built their business and so she kind of skyrocketed from there she's been a legal adviser for progressive group. That is advocated for a wholesale change in antitrust enforcement. She went and worked on the hill for this house antitrust subcommittee that did this big investigation of tech firms and was a big piece of that and this report the democratic staffer at the end of this investigation making all sorts of recommendations that that congress rain tech company and so this all comes at a time. You know we're sees risen up these ranks and then got this nomination for the ftc from president biden. Which will now put her in theory at least in a position to try to put some of her views into
"president" Discussed on This American President
"Souza. Our logo is actually inspired by a photo. He did take of president obama so his his his work has quite an impact. That's looking at it right now. You're right yeah. Yep We've communicated a little bit and he was really helpful for me in terms of understanding some things about the history of the white house photographer role. Obviously he's very knowledgeable about that and invested in getting it right so that was really helpful for me so having studied a great deal of history and i love the stories. That you you tell of the president's that aren't really as remembered you know we have so many photographs of the lincoln's and the jfk's and those are amazing great photographs but hearing the story of mckinley and hoover and john quincy adams It it really kind of brings to life that era which is sometimes forgotten But with that said what does the future presidential photography look like. Where do you think that it's it's going. The transition from obama to trump and then too biden has been visually pretty interesting. Partly because by i think is coming back a little more full circle to where we left things with obama and what was compelling about the the flicker photographs that the obama administration circulated and that whole corpus of the incredible work that pizzas in his staffed. At during those eight years was we talked earlier about that. Like what makes a photograph of a present economic. And i talked about that idea of the consistency between your impression of the person and the images and what what susan's photographs of obama gave us was a pretty consistent. Visual story about who. Obama is as a person both as a leader and also as a human being right. You think about all of the the Tumblers and the memes of obama loves babies and pictures of obama with kids and you know and got a sense of this is really These are really aspects of him. These are not invented for the camera. And so what happens when you transition from obama to trump similar to what we talked about with nixon is that you lose that kind of intimate close access to the president as a person and so the visual the official visual record of trump is probably not going to be very deeply studied like his tweets are for example because it is pretty boring it is a lot of gripping and grinning it is a lot of thumbs up it is mostly posing on at least the images that we were allowed to see During the trump administration and none of them give us kind of any of that glimpse of what was happening behind the scenes the kinds of images that sousa was making so now with buying. We're coming back around. I think Partly because some of the same folks who were working in the obama white house are now working for the biden administration so lawrence jackson for example. Who is a photographer Who worked with sousa is now Vice president harasses chief photographer. So what i'm expecting to see is a similar kind of investment..
"president" Discussed on This American President
"So now jump another. Let's say seventy years or so and we get to president obama Very recent it's the internet age and he's the first african american president so there's a great deal of symbolism symbolic moment for american history. Now we're dealing with social media. What did presidential photography look like. Then and what was that experience. Like for the obama administration early on the obama administration. On know they really picked up where they left off with the campaign which is to embrace every new medium. They possibly could right. It's kind of like you throw it all at the wall and you see what sticks and that really ended up being a big part of their visual strategy in the white house as well so I have a little listed. The book that sense you know. This is what they went on to. This is when they went on flicker. This is what they went on facebook. This is what they went on twitter right so anything that we all were doing during that period The obama white house was doing it to for sure when i focused on In terms of photography was this interesting choice that they made very early in the in the obama administration to take photographs. That were the same kinds of photographs. That official white house photographers had been making for history right to keep in a museum to put in the presidential library. These kind of photographs had been made for decades at this point but what the obama white house decided to do was to put some of them a very carefully. Curate and small collection of them on social media platform. Called flicker and flicker is probably now only known in the broader public because the president's are on it But at the time it was an it's still remains a pretty popular site four photographers to post their work to comment on one another's work to share work you know via creative commons license etc and so when the photographs started showing up there and then people started really paying attention to them and it became almost like a news event every time they would drop another folder photos from last month. I got really interested in why that was working and how that was working. So how was it. That photographs essentially created to be preserved for history. Were also playing pretty big role in real time media politics. So i i think and there you have kind of the instantaneous nature of the presidency and being the idea being that it's accessible to the public right. Every lots of people use flicker. I remember i used to use flicker and so that seemed like that was the goal of forging that connection. Yeah and it was also very much early on about the you know. I think we sometimes forget that in the early web two point oh days everything was about interactivity and now that we have so much interactivity i think we forget how much interactivity we actually didn't want in that early period..
"president" Discussed on This American President
"It's just indecorous photograph anyone eating food even if they're at a congressional picnic where hot dogs are being Don't make those photographs especially hong exactly literally stuffing you're exactly exactly and so it became kind of to me. It was sort of this fun exercise with like. Oh here's another story about how he can't phone reference about with dogs but this all came to a head in in the in the mid nineteen thirties when roosevelt was photographed at a baseball game enjoying himself but the photographs. When they were circulated you know on the wire services made him look pretty bad and that was more a function of just the technology that you blow up a you blow up candid camera photograph you blow up at thirty five millimeter negative. It's gonna lose resolution as we would say now in the digital age and it's just not gonna look very good and so what happened. Was the white house started getting phone calls about people concerned about roosevelt health and because people were always concerned about roosevelt's health and because the white house is especially sensitive to that It became this question of like what we have to ban the candid camera. And we can't have these little cameras around. Photographing the president you know in the oval office when he doesn't know about it Or at any of these events that are unauthorized. Said candid camera. Becomes a kind of shorthand. For how do we control the visual media in a way that's going to continue not just to uphold the the unwritten rules about roosevelt's disability but just continued the need to make roosevelt look good physically as he can. I think with fdr you have the the gold standard of a president hiding his physical state and he's clearly not the first president to do that. But i think It's often kind of marveled at that. The white house was able to keep the extent of his disability hidden. And yeah i guess i. I hadn't really thought about the photography elements of that. I think you think about the broader media and how somehow the media adhered to a lot of these guidelines but as far as the photography so much of it is accidental. Right like how do you control a photo from getting out you ban the cameras. Yeah exactly exactly yeah. And there were a few cases where roosevelt's political enemies in the media. colonel cormac. The chicago tribune and henry loose at life magazine You know people who were politically opposed to roosevelt's on they let through images that you know have leaked through that supposed- band so life magazine For example Published a photograph of roosevelt taken very far away on. And if you knew it was roosevelt. You could tell but it's pretty hard to just be like. That's roosevelt him. Being wheeled in to visit a friend at the naval hospital in washington. Dc at the white house essentially wrote to roosevelt's at the naval hospital and said you can't let these people stand on the.
"president" Discussed on This American President
"It's probably one of the images that pops up if you search him on a google image search for example and That is really interesting to me because it sort of speaks to the way that it was the last time they spoke as president right. He was laying out plans for the future. He talked about international relations and so the image of the last speech becomes really significant because it is a that's mode of presidential communication. That's so important especially in that period and that photograph actually becomes the basis for the mckinley statue in his hometown. And of course. It was a speech that everyone watching. None of them realise mckinley himself. It would be his last speech so up next. Then you talk about president hoover and fdr. And i'm really curious about this. Because i mean we've done a series and fdr fdr. I mean he's very fascinating man. Herbert hoover done research for him for a future script. And he's a lot more interesting than i think. History has i think given him credit for but the of these two men who couldn't have been any more different in. fdr case he was a master communicator. How did photography play out during their presidencies. Yes two very different men. But they're both caught. In what i would call the same era of photography and so they have to work with that and work through it. And that's what came to be known as the candid camera era of photography so cameras beginning in the twentieth century. Start to get smaller and smaller Today to us they would look huge still and very heavy but at the time they were called miniature cameras and many of us you know i was a kid in the nineteen seventy s and the film cameras that my parents had held thirty five millimeter film. And so we talking about the candid camera era. We're essentially talking about the era beginning in the late. Nineteen twenties and nineteen thirties. Were thirty five millimeter. Film and cameras were became more widely available and so these are cameras..
"president" Discussed on This American President
"Ceiling windows and because you needed as much natural light is you could. And so he. He writes about how they brought him to. You know something that he he writes looks like a greenhouse and so he's trying to grasp right what this looks like and then he describes being being sat down on a chair and having a large telescope pointed at him. So there to you know he's thinking of he's looking at the giant camera and the lens and you know so you can see. He's trying to make these analogies to familiar technologies. And that's exactly right and so then there's a point where i think during his second sitting. He says he reports the conversation. He had with photographer. And he says you know the photographer says it's just it's a chemical reaction etc etc and then he says but i have no idea how the image came upon the plate right. So this is somebody who fought for the founding of the smithsonian institution you know. He was very deeply interested in science and technology but you know his initial exposure. He's like i don't know like i don't know how that happened her. Yeah i mean. I don't know how some of the basic technologies around me happen. I would love to have heard his journal description of someone. Taking an iphone are taking digital photo of him so that is fascinating. That must have been fun to read as far as his recollection. So we fast forward a little bit. And we have president william mckinley now. So we're talking about seventy eighty years later. Photography has become much more commonplace. What role did photography play in his story. And i know that there is a little bit about his assassination. Here some really interested to hear what you have to say. So mckinley is. Mckinley comes down to us. As kind of one of the first modern media presidents He ran a campaign that was very modern and sophisticated for the late nineteenth century and he was for example the first president to appear on motion picture so he was very much interested in technology. I think his brother in law was actually a founder and executive of one of the early film companies so he clearly had a kind of a family in to the media as well So mckinley in terms of his time in the white house on set up a lot of the what we would think of. Today's the more professionalized communications operations Primarily through his primarily through his private secretary. George cornelio who is cut newness as the first real white house press secretary again the way that we tend to think of that role as it's evolved. Since so mckinley himself is a pretty sophisticated media. Figure He had what. I would call a kind of court photographer. So we don't get the official role of the official white house photographer like we have today really until arguably the mid twentieth century you can. There were number of white house photographers. Who worked in the roosevelt white house in the truman white house. After that and then i mentioned. Lbj's photographer yoichi okamoto. Who really solidified that role as a key role for the president But what mckinley had was he and then later after him. Teddy roosevelt worked very closely with a woman named frances. Benjamin johnston and she arguably was a his white house photographer and also she did a lot of photographing roosevelt in his family later. johnston was.
"president" Discussed on This American President
"But no that's great. Thank you for clearing that up by the way because that solves a mystery that i've always wanted to know so you mentioned that the oldest existing photo of a president is a daguerreotype of john. Quincy adams six president. So what can you tell me about him..
"president" Discussed on This American President
"So i wanted to go chronologically through the president's that you mentioned but since we're in nixon series right now i wanted to ask you a little bit more about nexen so you talk about his relationship with the photographer all the atkins so it can you tell us about that. Relationship and how. Nixon used photography in his career. Nixon tolerated photography I would not say. He was obsessed with it Lyndon johnson was famously obsessed with it and Linden johnson's photographer. A guy named yoichi moto was arguably the first official white house photographer to really create that role as we think of today. obama photographer. Pete souza has explicitly named okamoto as an inspiration. Said the i wanna do for history. What he did for history And so when nixon comes along ollie atkins is working He was a. I think he worked for the saturday evening. Post as photographer. So keep working photo photojournalist and he ended up working for the sixty eight campaign. An atkin said later that nixon had to be convinced that he should have a photographer. He wasn't necessarily excited about that and but atkins was hired. And there's there's a broader staff. They cover everything photograph The white house everything from you know Visits by leaders meetings behind the scenes things and then of course all the public events what are known as the grip. Grins where. You're you posing you smile with your picture with the president and they take it and then they send it to you later right so all of that is happening and then atkins the challenge for him. Is that the kind of access that lbj gave okamoto which produced a really compelling visual body of work atkins had none of that he had no security clearance so he couldn't be in any meetings of really any high level significance he Was not somebody who you know. Could kind of lurk around the margins and make candid photographs of nixon One of my favorite at can stories is actually at the very end of nixon's presidency. Where you can actually find this video on youtube. There is a a video of about seven minutes of nixon getting ready to go on live television to give his resignation speech in august of nineteen seventy four and it's essentially. They've turned on the the cameras there in the lighting. They're they're getting it already. And the nixon comes in and sits down and of course it's probably the most awkward thing ever because he's getting ready to resign and this is incredibly consequential moment for him and for the nation and so nixon sort of awkwardly awkwardly chatting and you can watch this unfold on youtube of cringe along like the blooper reel yeah. It's really kind of intense and fascinating. But when i started watching it what i noticed pretty quickly. Is you hear the click of a camera. And then nixon kind of says thank you. That's enough and he has the fall smile. And then he turns to the camera crew. The cbs tv crew and says oh that's my ali. You know he's always trying to take pictures of me. Picking my nose you know and so what you realize. Is that off camera. Atkins's trying to cover history. He's trying to photograph this moment. He's trying to essentially worked for this president that he's been working for about to resign. And it goes on for like two minutes on and off where nixon essentially spends a good chunk of time berating. Atkins telling him. No you've taken photographs. Didn't you just take another one. The press will get mad if i let you take too many photos because i'm not letting them take too many photos this kind of fourth and you can hear atkins mumbling a little bit in the background and know in the end. It's like okay..
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"Really wasn't until obama took office and as you said started on putting photographs that were being made in the white house on a set on social media platform known as flicker. They started doing that and so they were really circulating their photographs in real time and i got interested in that and i started working with my students on that question. And that's what i realize that. Nobody had really written a full history of the president's relationships To photography across its full history so the very short answer To supplement very long answer is i decided to write. The book wasn't out there yet That's fascinating and if. I recall the photo of lincoln. That you're mentioning. Is it the one that usually pops up as the earliest photo of lincoln that we have. Because i know there's one of him from the eighteen forties were it's him and there's an accompanying photo with his wife. Mary todd is it one where. He's skinny and beardless and i think he's holding his finger kinda like this. Do you know what i'm talking about. Yeah yeah yeah that's it. Yeah and so. It's that's an image that's owned now by the library of congress and you can go search for it. Online on yeah. He's very awkward seeming his wearing a suit that i guess if you know eighteen forties. Fashion isn't super fashionable. It's more of what kinda rough frontier guy might wear. His hair's combed and often lincolnshire wasn't combed in photographs. In fact But yes so that lincoln if you compare it to the bearded lincoln people of the late nineteenth century would have been more familiar with was really shocking to people. This was not a guy they'd seen before it's kind of like when liga photo of a political figure pops up when they were in like high school and suddenly they they show the photo from now. And then you see them with bell bottoms or sideburns from the seventies and you think oh my gosh. You can't picture so and so like that out. Imagine it's like the same thing. Yeah it's like the awkward teenage phase. Yeah right yeah so. That's interesting because that photo is in so many lincoln biographies but it isn't really spoken of in terms of the impacted has when people saw the photos in eighteen ninety s and thought well. This isn't the bearded lincoln that we're so familiar with. Yeah exactly exactly so as someone who studies photography and photographs specifically. Can you give me a little bit of an idea of how you would analyze historical photograph and basically how is a professor of the subject as a scholar. You look at these photographs differently than everyone else. I think i would do a couple of things one is. It's really important to place a photograph in its times and not only in the kind of social political context of what's happening in the period those kinds of questions but also just the technological components of the photographs so for example..
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"He was still I think in a ninety percent, a tinge of getting oxygen on his own. But. I think the best thing the White House is done has been released videos of him. They released video of him in the diplomatic reception room before we got on Marine One. Eight was sure that it was a nasty lazy hem and then the video that they released on on Saturday showing him actually in Walter Reed. upright and I think that's a moist reassuring thing and even yeah, the doctors there's been some criticism of Helmand doctor is communicating. With clarity on time line when this happened etcetera and I was thinking about that I thought well, you know we have hit the laws right. The doctor is not trained to talk about his patient hubbly doctorates trained to keep information about a patient private in. So yet it is so very different win. The doctor is speaking about the president of the United States who is in station, and so it's It's that's the reason why this is unprecedented. He needed doctors aren't used to publicly talking about the symptoms imprisonment. Right. So. What happens if the president is incapacitated after the election but before inauguration, what are kind of the implications that could happen say if the president can't? Take on, the duties to be president. Well I think in that situation, you're still going to have twenty fifth amendment transfer entrance range of the vice president, and then it it. You know it depends on how the outcome of the election but you have the vice president's overseas the transition Jim Administration if they won the election or transfer it to the other party, but I don't think there's any scenario where. because it because the constitution is very clear on win the inauguration in that transfer of power happens that I don't think you're gonNA have. A situation where even if president trump is incapacitated or worse where the if president by Vice, President Biden won the election, he's not going to be in charge until. January twenty. You Twenty twenty one it's just I. think it just. Creates a lot of. Just uns-. Think at least the people feeling very unsettled about about if that were to happen the vice president would need to be very reassuring. The government is still moving forward or still doing their jobs. Military still following the directions in the Pentagon like to keep sense of of order and hunt nudity would be really important message to send. Right and it's interesting. So one thing that I think could be a question is that if you have a president elect. Let's say if vice. President Biden wins or or something a scenario where that happens. And Heaven forbid that. Anything would happen to him but if the president. If, somebody who wins the election Gets incapacitated in some way what would happen is that? That person a the vice president elect would take over but I've read that there's some question over when someone becomes president elect because mom there's a presumptive president-elect after election day assuming that's what happens assuming that there isn't like A. Contested election and then the electoral college voters meet in their states to cast their ballots and then by then it's kind of becoming more official whose president elect. But then there's the actual counting of the electoral votes in January, before the before the Congress and then there's a question of, is this person president-elect according to the constitution? I'm not sure that that's spelled out..
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"Of the twenty Fifth Amendment that the President and majority of the principal officers, the Executive Department which would presumably be the cabinet they would transmit to Congress in the president pro temp of the Senate and Speaker of the House. The intention the vice president taking taking rings of. Jewish or it would be whoever? They yet, that would be the transmission. So that's where he thinking. You know this long is written in the middle of the Cold War send the fear at that time was nuclear war that Juke out the president then. You would have that body within the executive branch of government the cabinet sitting that information to the Senate into the house known find him of the chains and you know that's obviously worst case scenario but you know it's interesting back at. William Henry Harrison died and his number two. Took over. vice-president Tyler they still didn't consider him the president. There is a lot of accusations that he was just the acting president even though we see that his standard. Order of transmission would or secession back then when they didn't, they weren't. They didn't make the constitution precise enough. A question, there is a constant. Out It. Really suffered as President Giddy he could get any nomination through because they were acting as if he was the origin. and. That's one reason why we have the twenty Fifth Amendment is to clarify what would happen in certain situations earned them. So you said in the twenty Fifth Amendment you said that it was the if the vice president and is that a majority of the Cabinet It doesn't say the cabinet, but it says. either. The principal officers of the executive departments, which presumably the cabinets. Or of such other body as Congress may may by law provide and then transmit that to the president of the Senate and the Speaker of the House in writing that the president is able to discharge the powers and duties of the office and a vice president shall immediately. The powers and duties of the office as acting president. And after nine eleven I know that they did a lot of rehearsals in the federal government on continuity of of office of. Women's. Rations where different departments were were role playing what would happen in certain situations would take over because you know we had homeland security by that point and. You know We've seeing the pandemic. The really does require the executive branch remedies, national responses to respond. So it's not just the president's even it's also does executive officers implementing a response to to something so so It doesn't sound like. There's been any kind of a transfer from president trump. He has not made Mike Pence the acting even though there were concerns about his oxygen levels and now we're getting the news that he could be discharged from Walter Reed. which is a good sign as far as health goes. So it doesn't sound like that. Could come into play here but I guess you know hopefully, it won't the always have to prepare. Right. Exactly and you know it. It's not as if he's on a ventilator right now. No. On even the news about him getting oxygen..
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"The votes that were attributed to that ticket went to that ticket still and so. I I don't know exactly. But I think that that's the most likely scenario is that there would probably be a dispute over. Leather Devos ardy chastised would still go to the trump tickets but with the order of succession. Thing awful were to happen to the president. Then vice president pence would be the next in line. It's just a matter of how that would go down and I think that would just invoke. Legal issues that would go into the courts is what I think. What happened on that? What I've I've heard is that it's possible that since early voting has happened, people have already voted for either the Democratic or Republican ticket that the parties. The party. If if their nominee is incapacitated that party there, committee would have to shoes potentially new candidate and it's possible that if they choose a new candidate, then what would happen is that whoever they whatever ticket they voted for would be considered a vote for that party since I guess the technicalities that they're voting for the electors to vote for the party's nominee. That's what I've heard I mean there's A lot of sense and I think if that were the case, I think committee would choose Mike Pence but to make it to to not make it any more. Confusing Than to keep it as simple and straightforward as possible that with the idea that people voted for that ticket knowing this indeed did happen to stop the ticket the next in line if they were already, you know the the I think that that would be the most sensible thing right and then the question would probably be if Mike Pence gets elevated, they would still have to choose a vice presidential candidate and I'm not sure what the procedures are per party there there might be specifics about what committee you know who gets to choose and what are the mechanisms but it I've read that's what it sounds like the party would have to choose. Why I think what concerns me is that? The regular order of things is so is a little. It's not on the talk of people's minds. Right but we've had right now we have the confirmation process going forward or an Connie Barrett and you've seen people try to stay. Well, that's legitimate because it's the last year of the presidency will impact the constitution says. The president doesn't can is to nominate the Senate is to confirm it doesn't talk about timing, but that has not stopped questions and trying to make it sound illegitimate even though it very much is. So I think the P. R. Aspect of what would happen would be. Pretty wish even though you know what you said happened with. The. straightforwardness of the ballots people voting for the ticket the Electoral College were nominating people to the call Electoral College? All of that makes her legal sense and but I think we might have some. Just Pr Wise I. Think they're waiting challenges. Demise the process whatever that process legitimately is right now you mentioned the twenty Fifth Amendment and I know there are a few mechanisms with the twenty Fifth Amendment. And you mentioned different presidents who've had to invoke that I recall when President Bush George W Bush was in office. He had a colonoscopy and he invoked it, which means that he basically handed off power to Vice President Cheney as the acting vice? President or I'm sorry is the acting president which can happen that's under the president's own volition. But I know there are also other mechanisms right I in in the twenty Fifth Amendment where the vice president and the cabinet can actually. Say that the president is incapacitated regardless of what the President says do you know anything about those those mechanisms say I mean it's the is section four.
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"Then said, well, why don't you switch your Mo has to quartermaster. Switched over, he started as a tank commander went to infantry. Then moved over into quartermaster went command school ended up. Placing first clashed in both both aspects of and then went back into infantry again, and so it's it's kind of interesting when you talk about our careers and how we have to do things in shift and shape. It's no different from a farm kid from Abilene Kansas. Right now, what do you think about Eisenhower's background and his family life? How did that influence his leadership style throughout his career? So midwesterners just in general. I always say that we are. We are measured people. We we tend to be very thoughtful whenever we do think sometimes we have temporarily he surely had a temper There's no doubt about that. But for the most part I, think that that his background his his. His importance to education doing the right thing and making sure that you had the ideas and thought through things fully before you execute them I think was one of those things that that really shaved his career. You have patent saying you know we need to go all the way into Russia. You have you have. Montgomery. Sitting there saying Oh. Gosh I want to be the first night sitting there saying. We need to work together. This is how we do it. This is the plan. This is the measure. More to their during the day. He actually wrote a letter to my great grandmother saying that you know if anything goes wrong, it is my fault. It takes all responsibility. Takes. Everything off everybody else. It in fact, it was it was. It was actually. Signed wrong. The date was wrong because he had so much pressure going Montreal and eventually. On June fifth. June six have happened and it was an absolute. Amazing amazing accomplishment when you think about it, but more importantly is that one of my favorite that he says is that. Plans me nothing but planning means everything and so the thought process of what will happen with this, what will have that effect that they made a fake harbor? Out of boats and pontoons, all of these things that you could get supplies into France all of those things played a major role. All of that stuff stems from not only understanding what fair values are having empathy understanding what what the next step would be I think that carried over into his presidency as well. Right now when you look at World War Two, you you you read about, Patton, you read about Macarthur and all the great military figures of that time Bradley I mean, you know the list goes on the class that the stars fell on and as they say and yet it was Eisenhower and of course, we have to say General Marshall and it was Eisenhower who became the president among all of them. What about him was was different from all the rest. That's a great question. I don't think I've ever been asked that question before. The truth is, is that besides Bradley think about the Egos and the sense of I'm a warrior I am important that went on during World War Two you have. Everything that was happening in the jetties front. Where no matter what was happening I? I. Was the one that was important. Anchors called of the damn aid ever. but never given the credit of what what he was able to do his strategies when the war started in one, thousand, nine, thirty, nine, I was Carl. You know by nineteen forty one he was to star actually planning out what was going to happen in. Japan? And then was moved into the front, the the European data, which is interesting. All of those things happen by themselves not because I was the guy going out and battlefield but because he was the guy that was thinking through what would happen if something else happened to be honest with you as exactly what you're doing? But it really is it goes back to your thought process how you're learning through things. One thing is, is that one of his first assignments every less less left-wing account Kinda like Ole tes. which was the last person to replace. Ronald, he actually became a coach. For his local is local base. For football I mean all of this stuff has do a strategy. Everybody was understood that he had the ability to think through the problems all the way through again, coming back to the presidency does follow him all the way through where it was able to do that. In addition to that, you believe that it didn't matter got credited songs the job got done and we talk about that all the time in hyperbole. But the truth is that that's how you get successful in life in general is that you don't care about where the credit goes. You just care if the job gets done and being a leader is making sure other people feel. And people are respected and most importantly, and this is something we forget today is being her. Because as much as we think about our own goes, it doesn't matter being in a leadership position as long as you. If you have people that that here you in you're hearing them you may not agree with what was the decision has but at least you've been heard, your point has been made and then the next step can be taken. Right, and I think that that's one of those qualities that as far as what you just said, not wanting the credit but wanting the job. Then that's one of those qualities that people want in a leader but aren't guaranteed in a leader because so many people in politics want the credit. And to be honest with you. Again, if he wasn't from Kansas I, don't think he would have had the same same type of thought process. is a different world there you know back then especially in Kansas, very humble background he knows he knows that people need to be heard. This is where this is roots in. Oh, his mother was was was very religious. It was taught to the most important thing is that he really believed that everybody opinion mattered we as individuals can accomplish some things but us as a group can accomplish great things. Right and one thing interesting about Eisenhower you have a a a figure who was who had worked and collaborated with just incredible figures of that time mentioned you know MacArthur. Mentioned Marshall, and also with other presidents, you know getting to know I mean it was FDR who put him that the task of? And then Truman and Kennedy Nixon what were those relationships like and I. AM. Very. Curious about your take on his relationship with Nixon. There's been so much written about that and for you it's it's for your family. It's a matter of family since Eisenhower Nixon families are married are related through marriage so So, so So take almost got replaced President Nixon almost got replace as vice president during during the first term but. I decided not to, and for whatever reason there is own, it doesn't matter. But. Over the time over over the time that I was in office as united. States. Vice President Nixon at the time was an incredible instrument of getting things done whenever I was for example in the hospital. You know at Walter, Reed having heart attack in nineteen fifty five was the first time. They tried to pass the interstate highway act right and fence. which is our national highway system than we currently and failed availed the because they believed it was a states right issue a tenth amendment issue didn't matter. They voted the interstate commerce caused it was it was a state issue stays problem which at that time it took fourteen days to.
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"Basically the wives weren't thrilled about this because they're they're. They're training. They want to execute the mission well, but then they have to deal with all these PR events, but apparently the Hong. Kong is going on at that time in one of them. One other wives was really scared that they would contract this flu, and then go into space, and then get sick and one of the astronauts ended up getting sick, but it wasn't from the flu is mainly. It was A. You know stomach issues and things like that so anyways you see this story about flus and things like that that creep up every now and then, and it's really fascinating, and it's something I think. Historically more people will probably take a look at, and it's a good reminder to this stuff does happen. Yeah I think It's it's just. It's just interesting I think compared to just how seriously we take this this the this kind of thing, nowadays and you know I think back back to what we're saying at the beginning of the conversation. You and I were sort of tossing predictions as to what this would lead to. Again you know I thought would be disruptive I. Mean I think around what mid to late February you started to see the Dow tank. And I think for a lot of people. I saw it as a temporary setback, but I mean just. The global disruption in trade has been just astounding. The the Dow had lost. I, mean it I mean it was two thousand eight level sort of Dow doubt losses, and it was incredible to see a very bad way obviously That that made me think okay..
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"You know what has happened since then but obviously at the time they know that. And it's one thing to read about a crisis and to know. This was a very difficult time. It was a scary time. There was a lot at stake and people felt unsure. And it's another thing to live through it and I think right now we're living through that because you know for all the all the projections that are out there. I don't think most people predicted that this would happen. And none of us really know and it's GonNa end we don't know and we don't know what it's GonNa look like when life becomes normal again. I mean I hear about people talking about how this is going to change. Are People going to shake hands anymore? You know one one of my friends told me that you know she's from the South and people are very friendly in the south and But there's something different now when people see each other. There's kind of you know social distancing becomes kind of. There's almost like an element of of I don't know I I hate to say up. Maybe fear and so you know we're in a crisis right now. Very serious crisis At the same time I think that crises also bring out the best in people and our generation. I mean we've gone through a good amount. You know we went through nine eleven. We went the two thousand and eight. I mean we my generation being I guess you could say generation millennials. We grew up very comfortable. You know he grew up in the eighties nineties and and it was generally very good time in your case. It was the ninety s thousands. But we've also gone through some pretty tough times to you this included and so my hope is that just like in previous generations when you look at say the greatest generation that endured the depression in the war and World War World War Two and then after the Cold War afterwards in. How each of those lessons Strengthen that generation to take on new challenges and my hope is that it will do the same for our generation as well and our country. Yeah I think it's I think a lot of ways though this does bring back a lot of those tough choices that America faced in the Early Twentieth Century in the Mid Twentieth Century. Where I mean right now I mean New York is talking about sort of the Rationing ventilators and this is obviously a really tough choice right because you have to decide Who gets one based on age on viability With the investment is going to be ultimately the these are tough choices that no human wants to make but when you think about what Truman kind of questions Truman was asking himself. At least a you know whether to drop the bomb on Japan this was. This was a really really really difficult choice. Right when you're talking about huge moral hazards and trade offs and things like this. What what we. We've we've had base by becoming so rich and so powerful and a lot of ways we've we've sort of done away with a lot of these tough choices that our ancestors faced that we don't have to make choices between Sacrificing life and wealth at least up until now So I think in a lot of ways this is bringing back a lot of those tough questions that not too long ago. our ancestors would have looked at them and said. Yeah that's life Yeah no that's true and you know. Obviously there's some silver linings that happen here and there. I think that the people are just are adjusting to these things in many ways. They're staying home in spending more time with friends and family. And there's some good things and I mean you know. It's really heartbreaking the stories you're hearing I mean people. I have a friend who left a job that she had been for years at and she started a new job with a company. And now she's GonNa get laid off because of this. What happened? I mean it's it's just horrible. You know when you hear about people getting infected. I mean it's it's tragic and at the same time. Sometimes these things do bring out the best in people and I. I hope it continues to do so. Obviously you hear the stories of your friends who are in the medical profession. And they're just. They're working their butts off. They're not taking breaks. Their people's lives are in their hands. And you know they're they're putting themselves at risk because they're they're working with people that that have that could have the The virus or do have it. So that's definitely something that it's inspiring and we really hope and pray that they have the strength to do what they have to do and hope that our leaders have the wisdom to do what they have to do as well so I think we also have a lot of responsibilities that are that are put on all of us not just people working in the medical field and this is one of those those really tough times. That's going to. I hope at least bring people together without of course bringing them physically together and a lot of that is is a lot. It's new for us. It's weird that we've sort of defined the the the good thing you can do right now is stay at home. And and and keep clear of people to the to the greatest extent. Possible that the greatest way to help people out now and and yes even save lives is by staying home And that but definitely makes this challenge different than than any that I can remember where where the sort of the again the greatest act of heroism is just is just making sure that you are not flooding. The hospitals with more people right exactly well one thing. I also wanted to mention his that. Our Cold War series still going on and so we expect to have new episodes coming soon. We just finished our series on Truman. We have a series on Eisenhower. Coming up so going chronologically and we hope to still continue to bring you that That series and the episodes that come on after Eisenhower but again thank you to our listeners. We really appreciate your support Those who donated to our kickstarter and those who listen. We appreciate that so much It really it makes it all worth it. And it's great to share that passion with people and we just hope everyone stay safe. Do everything you can to stay safe and for your families The people that you love and make sure you still stay connected with people. That's very important and Joey thank you for your time. Just thank you for for being For being a prophet. I I feel like we need to Vegas. Let's go to Las Vegas or something I just.
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"Things seem so distant in the past and they they're just truly not this this in the you can you can go online and basically most of the news you'll read today and for the past couple of weeks was about cove in nineteen and that's that's that's something. I don't think I have seen in my lifetime and so about history a very interesting example that I've been reading about lately and it's not an episode in history that I could say I've studied too much about but people are talking naturally about the great Spanish flu the great influenza of one thousand nine hundred eighteen to nineteen twenty ish about one hundred years ago and honestly that story I. It's fascinating what I've read about it. And just the cost that I mean it's just staggering right before that you had world war one in fact it was going on during World War One and that being the great war the worst war in history up to that time and that killed millions of people and it it introduced Just kind of new levels of of horror and agony that people were experiencing because of the war. You know people know about this. The trench warfare and Just the levels of casualties. That really dwarfed anything that happened previously and then after that or actually during that war the virus that would become the great influenza showed up in the soldiers as the United States soldiers as they were mobilising to go to Europe and I believe they sought in Kansas. You know when the soldiers were getting prepared to to go over to Europe and it followed them there and before you knew it. It spread like wildfire all across the world. And as we know it. It's known as the Spanish flu. Because so much of the world including the United States had basically a censored all information about it and President Wilson who was president at the time of the United States. he very vigorously his administration. Very vigorously prosecuted or enforce the Sedition Act which essentially made it illegal to speak out against the war and one of those things that might undermine the war. Effort was discussion of the pandemic which to me. It's really incredible. When you think about something like that. I mean I you know we live in a world today where we scrutinize everything. Our politicians say just one hundred years ago which is our grandparents may be great grandparents probably great grandparents lifetimes there was a situation where most of the rich nations wealthy nations of the world. They advanced nations and You know the United States we were all censoring this information and when you have a situation like that happening in which information is basically a life or death thing people did not have the information they needed in order to take the right precautions. So there's this amazing story of how officials in Philadelphia during World War One. They that this pandemic was a serious threat and there was a parade scheduled a parade in the city which in support of the war effort. And they knew that this pandemic virus could spread like wildfire. If you have an event like this but they still let the event continue. I mean it's it's really incredible. It's something that now. It's just unthinkable. Now you hear stories about people that are Going to the beach and all that kind of stuff and obviously a lot of people have strong opinions about that. Some people feel like that's very careless. Imagine if something like that happened where you know city officials basically Government officials suppressed any information about it. They allowed these big events to happen. And as a result of these events people gathered thousands of people got infected people died. And what's remarkable? Is that you look at the number of people that died Americans that died in World War One and you look at the number of people that died in Because of the great flew the influenza more people died in the great flew. The Spanish flu then died in the American civil war which was the war in which most Americans were killed. I mean this was a catastrophic event. I can't imagine living in a time like that. Imagine a time where a war is going on. People are getting killed and then a flu happens. Which is it's you know. Kills even more people and worldwide. You had fifty two hundred million people that died that dwarf even our statistics here in the United States. And this is after the civilized world had gone through World War One it's just staggering to me One thing that kind of adds to the against the fascination with that time is that there's a lot of speculation that woodrow Wilson himself. Actually got the Spanish flu. There's debate about it. Some people think that he had a heart attack but basically as the story goes in as a covered a little bit in our previous podcasts. Our previous episodes basically Woodrow Wilson. While he was negotiating the peace treaty which would become the Treaty of our Si- a at the end of World War. One he during the negotiations got very sick and apparently after this illness had began behaving erratically and changed his policy positions. He started thinking that there were spies around him which is very possible but he got very paranoid and started making decisions. You know erratically. And so essentially his his thinking kind of changed and the outcome of the treaty possibly was altered by that because Wilson decided to side closer with the allies against the Germans which led to a piece of vengeance which led to the resentment that fueled the rise of of Hitler. And Nazism. Now there's a long chain there many events I'm simplifying obviously but in some senses. It's possible that an illness. Perhaps the Spanish flu had implications beyond anything beyond anything. Anyone realized that the timing applications that had that had a great effect on how the twentieth century would turn out so really when you look at that story and how important it is to learn from that story and hope that we're learning from those stories today as we confront the pandemic. It's it's it is interesting to see does not look like at least from my perspective. That would Joe Wilson the handle this very well at all Earliest compared to At least how. We're how we're handling. Covert nineteen right now. I mean I mean you know a lot of people say that we've been laid on the ball and sort of dealing with it and it certainly seems that way if we heard about it you know months prior but the the you know Americans are every American is aware of what's going on right now every American. No matter what they're doing is at least aware that they should be inside and practicing social distancing that was not the case in the. Early Twentieth Century. Under Woodrow Wilson. Right and there's a great book out on that whole story it's about the pandemic generally speaking but it's called the great influenza the story of the deadliest pandemic in history it's written by historian named John Berry and one of the tag lines for that book is called the strongest. It says the strongest weapon against pandemic is the truth. And so that to me when you talk about information how important. That is really underscores. That and John Berry. He's one of those historians that does believe it. Wilson actually had The the Spanish flow. So I mean if you could think of a time where an heaven forbid but you're seeing so many people get the corona virus you know. You're seeing the celebrities Tom. Hanks you're seeing athletes. Get This and heaven forbid that it starts affecting people that are making decisions that really impact us. That already is happening right. I mean Boris Johnson. The the Prime Minister of the UK And so and so forth but none of this was theory during the great flu of one thousand nine hundred nineteen nineteen. This was actually happening. And I just can't even imagine what that must have been like for people when you hear about that and you hear about other flus other pandemics watching this documentary. Few days ago on Apollo eight the moon mission three missions before Apollo eleven but it was the first Apollo eight was the first mission to go round to go around the moon and come back. Didn't land on the moon but it went around this was in nineteen sixty eight and the interviewed one of the spouses without the wife of one of the Sorry one of the astronauts and before the mission the astronauts. So this is Frank Frank Borman Jim Lovell and Bill Anders. They actually went to the White House to meet with President Nixon and meet with a bunch of dignitaries and basically the wives weren't thrilled about this because they're they're they're training they want to execute the mission well but then they have to deal with all these PR events but apparently the Hong Kong is going on at that time in one of them one other wives was really scared that they would contract this flu and then go into space and then get sick and one of the astronauts ended up getting sick but it wasn't from the flu is mainly it was a you know stomach issues and things like that so anyways you see this story about Flus and things like that that creep up every now and then and it's really fascinating and it's something. I think historically more people will probably take a look at and it's a good reminder to this stuff does happen yeah I think It's it's just it's just interesting. I think compared to just how seriously we take this this the this kind of thing nowadays And you know I think back back to what we're saying at the beginning of the conversation you and I were sort of tossing predictions as to what this would lead to again. You know I thought would be disruptive I mean I think around what mid to late February you started to see the Dow tank and I think for a lot of people. I saw it as a temporary setback but I mean just the global disruption in trade has been just astounding the the Dow had lost. I mean it I mean it was two thousand eight level sort of Dow Doubt losses and it was incredible to see a very bad way obviously That that made me think okay. You know. This is happening in China. China's quarantining entire cities. This this has got to have If not just ramifications for for Asia definitely ramifications for global trade. And we're definitely seeing that affect now. Yeah you know one thing that I've been thinking about a lot lately. So we just released our Truman episodes. Joey you you played a big role in that. So we're very appreciative of getting those out there but one thing that the the big thing that keeps going through. Truman's administration is so story was that it was. It was literally crisis after crisis he turns because president during World War One or sorry World War Two has to decide to drop the bomb and then from then on. It's the crisis continues. You know he had the Cold War. He had Korea the hydrogen bomb. And you read these crises and you know how they end..
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"A lot has happened since our last episode Many things have happened. I'm sure as you all know and the first I wanNA say is about. Oh maybe a month and a half ago so right now it is early April about a month and a half ago I was at work was talking to my co worker. Joey and Joey happens to be someone. Who's helped us out on. Editing our podcast. So He's actually been here with me as you know. We record our podcast. And he's been helping for about a two three episodes And I see him at work every day with our day jobs unrelated to the podcast and we were talking and I think just about current events and the economy stuff that you see in the news and he said to me that he thinks that there's something more to this corona virus and at the time it was still happening but mainly in Asia. It hadn't come over to the United States. It hadn't happened around the world yet but he basically said something to the effect of. I think there's more to this than what people are saying. And it's going to be a lot worse than what people think it will be and not only that but it's going to hurt the economy. It's GonNa really change everything and you know the economy. Generally speaking the news had been good and he he basically said that was going to change and me being you know the humble history guy that always talks about how you know. You shouldn't think you know the future. I basically scoffed at him. I said what are you even talking about Joey? There's no way that can happen. That's ridiculous Lo and behold it has happened. Joey is a prophet. Never Doubt Joey Brown ever again and so we decided to have him on odd. Cast right now. He's not just an editor but he is a a Modern Day Prophet. So Joey welcome the show. Thanks for having me Richard and just to clarify. I don't think that my pronouncement was Prophetic it was definitely just a guess. Just just the way. Things were seeming over Back in let's see you said earlier people now February ish a right and and the you could read news reports where it was talking about how China was corn teaming entire provinces. And you know it. It didn't seem good and I was. You know the fact that they're shutting down business over there suggest that it might be more than just and I think at the time with people were calling. It was just a variant of the flu and I think I think a lot of people were a little suspicious of that claim. You know your humility only confirms that you truly are a prophet. So I'm just GONNA leave it at that. I said I'm just kidding. I don't think you have some divine revelation on this but you definitely had a better grasp over what was happening than a lot of other people myself included so just wanted to say that. Joe Brown more than just an editor I. I think it had a lot more to do. With a general over arching sense of pessimism than it had anything to do with me getting it right I think over the last what four years. I haven't made a single correct political prediction so it was bound to happen at son-in-law the whole broken clock thing right right exactly. I think that's that's exactly what happened right right. Well that's good enough to get on our podcast so so. This is a special episode. Life is very different now. Obviously for everybody including ourselves. You know just like all of you. We have our day jobs and our responsibilities and this virus has hit us in the same way. And you know we are working from home. We're doing the social distancing and we had to try to find a way to record this podcast without being around each other and increasing the risk to anybody and so it's it's changed life for us. It's changed life for everyone else. Life Quarantine is quite different. It's quite an experience Joey. How how's this experience for you? It's it's difficult. I mean and I think and I think most people are finding that you know whether they're working from home or just trying to weather out this pandemic. It's it's really tough It's it's definitely. It's it's a struggle to find things to do every day when I'm not doing work in that yeah right and I mean obviously we have our families we have our our parents and our grandparents and everyone that we you know friends that we care about especially those in the vulnerable population. So obviously that's a concern for us and for everyone else and we just hope that everyone stays safe. And does all the right things with the social distancing and everything like that And one thing I will say is that it helps to have modern technology and being able to stay in touch being able to text people do skype calls and everyone's talking about zoom. Now all that stuff so that that's been helpful in the sense that you don't have to feel as isolated as as you would otherwise so okay. Well WE ARE HISTORY. Podcast and obviously. There's a lot of historical insights about this first of all the thing that really stands out to me. Is that this. Pandemic is really unprecedented for people for for people like US Americans People our age. Who grew up. I grew up in the eight hundred nine zero in the nineties and two thousands. And so it's funny because I think growing up there all these documentaries and movies talking about natural disasters right whether it's a major earthquake growing up in California. That's what people always talk about. And you hear about like bio bio weapons and things like that and and pandemics being one of those threats but And you you always hear in those those kind of programs that you know this could happen. And we're not prepared and government reports or agencies. We'll talk about how this is a possibility and yet really. It's something that none of us really honestly think could happen. I mean I. It's something they hypothetically could happen. But it's not something that all of us are kind of thinking. Oh man if that happens that's really going to change my life and I'm going to prepare for this and I think history is one of those things that can have a lot of value to this because history shows. No this stuff does happen. And they don't just happen in parts of the world that you don't know about they happen and you know the you know the the major countries they happen. I rode countries. They happen everywhere. I mean really pandemics. I mean it's a sign of just the kind of world we live in you know it's an imperfect world there are plagues. There are good things that happened in this world. There are bad things that happen in this world. Now that's something I've been thinking a lot of during this time. Where yes it is possible for something on the other side of the world super friendly effect people here and you know you think about the people talking about the wet markets in China and here. We are the world's strongest economy is basically shut down because of that it compared to two recent it least Semi recent viral outbreaks. This is definitely the most disruptive I remember and I think at least in my lifetime the two biggest ones of course where SARS and Murs and they they don't really I mean murmurs was an interesting one because I'm just doing quick research online There was an outbreak in in Saudi Arabia. Twenty twelve's and the it was. It was not a very infectious or contagious disease. That apparently it was transmitted from dromedary camels and on the first of the listeners who are really into camels they know that's a one humped camel. Yeah and it was transmitted to to to some person who had it and then they went to a hospital and transmitted to a bunch of other people and the death rate. I think the the the mortality rate for Moore's was like a third of people that caught it at least at least that's what the I think that the the whol was reporting Which is pretty high. But it wasn't able to spread that quickly and so or really well at all and in fact most of the time it was spreading it was in Sort of a medical setting the hospital setting where you have patients in close contact with medical providers And then they had another outbreak of murders in two thousand fifteen in South Korea where South Korean man was in. Bahrain came into contact with someone or a camel and brought it back to South Korea and there was a substantial outbreak in South Korea but they contained it pretty quickly But but I mean the the novel Corona Virus outbreak. Just I mean it. It's crazy the extent to which it's shutdown just everything. I was had been in Israel for a while before cove in nineteen really took off. You know this is just a month ago. Basically yeah a couple of weeks ago and then I had spent you know about a month. I guess a month since I had gotten there. Yeah and I I mean Israel locked down quite a number of things I mean stores hotels basically airbnb where the only thing that was open and I come back to the United States and go into grocery store. 'cause I I don't have food after I've gotten back and completely cleaned out of toilet paper and And for some reason all of the canned goods with the exception of Pinto beans. I don't think people like those very much so it was. It was quite shocking. I mean just I I I knew it would be or at least I thought it would be disruptive but not to the extent that it that it has been right and it's been a year twenty twenty. This year has been such an eventful year already. You have a things that honestly seem like years ago. But they were just months ago whether it was president. Trump's impeachment and that obviously in it of itself was a big historic event. Not An event in which the outcome was unexpected but still an event of note and then you have a lot going on with Iran and when when president trump ordered the death of general Sulejmani. You had Kobe Bryant Steph. You had the election which is its own thing and there was it looked for a while that Bernie Sanders is going to get the nomination and then Biden is defeated him and several primaries. And then miss so you just have. I guess it's just one of those years. You know you look at different years in history and some of them really stand out as far as being very eventful nineteen sixty eight being being one of them and right now. We're living through a year. That already has been quite eventful. And it's only April. I mean we're not even we're barely a third of the way court of the way there and it's weird the like this the the extent to which all of those events that you mentioned you know. Trump's impeachment Kobe. Bryant's death all these..