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THE SECRET TO AMAZON'S SUCCESS - THE 10 LEADERSHIP RULES - B2B SALES & MARKETING

The B2B Revenue Leadership Show

35:17 min | 2 months ago

THE SECRET TO AMAZON'S SUCCESS - THE 10 LEADERSHIP RULES - B2B SALES & MARKETING

"Hey, it's Brian Burns and welcome this episode of the BBC Revenue. Leadership podcast today wouldn't be talking about the Amazon leadership principles with John Rosman John Ran Division. They're a little bit ago. Now, he's doing some writing and consulting. He's written a couple books about Amazon and how they approach things and I've got some experience some of my. Friends from quite a awhile ago the development side had been at Amazon and I stayed in touch with them, and I was always amazed at how fast they moved and obviously as a customer how well integrated things are but we're going to dig into that that customer experience that whether you're in sales or marketing or leadership it is so critical every day when I try and use these beat AC- websites all this security and everything makes it so hard to use and I'm a technical guy, I'm not a neophyte I really enjoy technology I am on the computer all day, and when I'm frustrated with all these codes and things that you have to memorize multiple passwords and. Your first pet's name was just to get in is ridiculous. So after the show I'm going to talk about or give you an update on the classes and the progress that we're making and how it's going to change going into the summer. So wait up for that. Also make sure you're checking out the other episodes of this show. It goes back quite a while over a year. There's been some great interviews, a lot of change. In the industry and you see what's going on there also make sure you're checking Presi for Business Presi for business is the easy way to share your presentations so that people can see it. You can see how far they get through it and you can tell your story I'm going to have pricey evangelist on later. This month I'm sure you'll enjoy that also out gone dot io and the research they're doing, they just rebranded their website. It looks pretty cool. Also nudge DOT AI and what they're doing for you automatically with ABM account based marketing and. Sales, it's smarter way of doing it leveraging relationships that you already exist to get into new accounts. That's part of what I teach in the courses, how how to do that in a natural humanistic way instead of the old fashioned pitch pitch pitch to get two minutes to try and differentiate yourself. It's just that is diminishing in return. We all see it. It doesn't work on us. Why do we think it works on other people? Let's get into the interview summit it up at the end. Hey John Welcome to the show as a way of getting started tell about yourself. Well. Thanks for welcoming me Brian Yes. My Name's John Rosman I I run a niche professional services in advisory firm called Brosnan partners a while ago I was at Amazon so I was a early executive at Amazon there from early two, thousand, two through late two, thousand, five I got to launch the marketplace business. So that's third party selling at Amazon Dot com today that over fifty percent of unit shipped and sold. Three million sellers on that platform, and then I ran the enterprise services business fide responsibility for target that Com toys, res- marks, and Spencer in a bunch of other great brands and. After I left Amazon in late two, thousand, five with my clients. Basically helping you know make digital strategy define and make digital strategy. Happen I just started to see the impact of all the. Kind of tricks and strategies and. A mindset maneuvers we would do to get results at Amazon to think through our situation and started to use those with my clients and I had one client in particular who's like John You got to write a book. So I wrote. I've written two books. One's called the Amazon way fourteen leadership principles behind the world's most disruptive company. That's about the leadership principles of Amazon which lead defines how they think through things and how they work together, and then I wrote the Amazon way on Iot, which is a book about digital strategy really in the Internet of things and it helps a business leader. faintly through what are the opportunities for Iot in their business? Largely using Amazon as reference points for those ideas excellent and so what was your experience like when you arrive there was like no other company worked for or Well I mean. I guess in some ways yes. In some ways no it. was there early two, thousand two and you know if you kind of go to the way back machine, you know it was a it was a small company at that point to it was still unclear whether they were gonNA survivor not and. We had our first billion dollar quarter in holiday two, thousand, two right today. It's a two hundred and forty billion dollar revenue organization. So it's but but there's a lot of things that are still in common and that's why these leadership principles are so vital to that organization when I was there, they weren't written down but we used him an everyday meetings to to get clear on how are we making decisions and and how do we interact together? How did we think through situations and some time after that they codified the fourteen leadership principles and stuff but it was you know it was a it was a great place because you could. You could get real work done without. With a very accountable. Structured stuff you didn't have to check into often once you kind of understood what the mission was you you were left your trusted to get that mission done, and so that way it was it was a great place in in I think continues to remain for a big company, a fairly low bureaucratic organization, hard working, but not bureaucratic. Yeah I've had several people that I had worked with on the technology side have gone there and had a really flourished and I remember when they went there I was like, wow, that's kind of a unique choice because at the time you know probably a little bit before you were there. You know you just thought of it as an online bookstore. And it certainly has turned into a lot more than that and I've had friends make careers out of just. Getting people onto aws. Amazon. Web Services and and you just see the you know that they're really kind of very unique company. Oh. Let's talk about those principles though for the listeners you know what what would they get out of your book? Well. You know. So there's fourteen leadership principles. Again, kind of just defines you know the culture and expectations that people have of each other and what the prioritize. The first is customer obsession. The fourteenth is delivering hard results and kind of two through thirteen could be in any order you want but it it really is. It's a, it's a set of complimentary principle. Sometimes, they're not in direct alignment, but that actually does really healthy because that makes you really work towards a you know a solution or an answer that that gives you the best of everything but it really defines you know how Amazon. Thinks through things in how they work together and I. think There's a couple of kind of hallmark ones in there, but under each one I just try to. Explain it give examples of it. In action in some tools you can use to you know help operationalize or make that principle you know real in your in your life and in your business and it's a it's a quick read. I try not to repeat myself and and my whole goal will when I was writing the book was that somebody could read it on one plane ride with glasses of wine and stuff. I try and make it I've I have a very direct style. And why did you leave what? What? Did. You want do next with your career. Yes. I just I wanted more control of that the type of work that I I was doing and that I was making all the commitments that I had to live up to and everything. So you've got to be a partner at. An early partner at a at a great professional services firm called Alvarez. Marcel and and a number of ex colleagues of mine from Arthur Andersen where there was a partner there for twelve years and I continue to work with Ingham and everything. But them I just you know when I was at Amazon just run ended up running a very big business it was international. In and those were challenging times. I think everybody kind of remembers the last you know eight, nine, ten years of Amazon. But there is a long stretch there about an eight year period where you know from a stock price standpoint and from a results standpoint, it was it was really up and down and stuff right and so it wasn't. that. They were going to have anything close to the type of success that they've had today but I learned I learned so much about. Strategy and getting declared the on ideas before you proceed with them, how to use metrics to to drive for performance improvement at innovate by solving a problem, you know and everything and and so those are just continue to be the tools that I use. To help drivers else with my clients and like how do you get your clients it must be your network or is it the book? Is that reputations at all of that? It's all of that a lot of keynote speaking. So I'll do probably forty keynotes this year whether it's two executive teams or boards or conferences, and so I'm meet a lot of people through those. Ange. So yeah. But the books you know the books of the world's best calling card, right? So So the books definitely open open doors and people connect with me and you know really Amazon does me all the famous world right they continue to be. You. Know I think the best example of a a world class operator and a systematic innovator and they're doing it across so many different lines of business, but they truly can those businesses together. There's there's true synergies and and dependencies between those businesses. They aren't just kind of fictional synergies in everything. So Amazon just continues to be this great model of. Focusing on the customer, you know leverage technology in data to create new experiences to create A. Better operational results and you know that you have to try new things and we you know we call those things back to Amazon writing have a certain perspective on how you take bets in Your Business and understand that those types of investments are different than some other types of investments he making your business and you need to have a different governance model around on and execute him in a different way and and so you know Amazon again just continues to me all the favors in the world because they are such a great story and and their game plan is actually printed systematic. It's pretty easy if you if you understand, it's pretty easy to understand it. And so what is your engagement look like with your clients? Because, not everybody's Amazon and usually people. Yeah Yeah so so so so You know today I among the board of advisors of four. I would stay smaller companies and with those teams it's it's more of just you know helping them to hash out like what is their strategy and everything right in gaining that type of clarity with my clients it's it's more of a you know they maybe have an idea about a specific you know digital strategy or an operational they they wanna make and the and they just they need an ex journal perspective to help define drive that result I don't do as much. The classical consulting where you drive the Analasyst, you drive the deliverables in you manage all the stakeholders and and all of that like that's what I did at. Alvarez. Amore sell in you. It's it's more difficult to scale that, and so I do more advisory where I'll typically work with one leader and really be Kinda their their coaching and give them my best independent opinion and recommendations on whatever the circumstances. So I get to do a lot of it. Just. Over the phone or by video today, I live in southern California and I travel so much for the keynote business that I try not to travel too much for my advisory business in everything but you know with that kind of coaching model that works out really well. Excellent and Y-, you see other companies out there that are really doing a great job using these Amazon principles. in a lot of them aren't foreign to companies you know and everything. Right. So there's a lot of great companies who really put the customer first and and don't just say, but actually do it right and so then the game is like, well, how do you use that? Great? Orientation from the customer to continue to reinvent the customer experience right and not let it become stagnant and you know maybe it's it's through you know some some new business model navy's through some new technology, a combination of all of those things right I think one constant that you that you see with Amazon is they're continually probing in trying new businesses and so with a lot of companies, it's really like, Hey, let's let's take what your world class and let's figure out like what's the adjacency there in how do we continue to expand on that in just not? To people too many companies just play the scale game a we do do something we're just gonNA continue to scale. You gotta think about kind of you know adding that playbook to you start in a real small way and continue to probe, and that's really what Amazon has has done as you mentioned like they started off as a bookstore like it's a conglomerate business today, right? So they're never stagnant in what their business is always adding to that business I. think that's that growth mindset of not just you're just businesses but actually adding tier capabilities is is a real vital one in today's competitive world. And that's it and I always found it. Amazing piece I bought both Apple TV and Amazon fire and. The Apple TV although they had all the more information about me then certainly Amazon did. But the Amazon fire, you just plugged it in it already had my username and password on it. My Amazon things I didn't have to do anything. And I'm like. An apple I had to like type it all in my I tune stuff which they already knew. You know I, bought it from them and it was so seamless. And it's like somebody had to think about that. And to really. Connect those two departments. That, that was pretty amazing. Yeah I think you know kind of attention to detail and you know really walking through. All aspects of the experience whether it's a product or service or whatever thinking beyond just you know one step or you know the normal situations like what happens when things go wrong and everything right? Like that curious mindset is is really what being customer centric is about being customer obsessed is about right and. And, end being way more curious about the details in things you don't understand than than most product or service companies are right and I think most. Most, companies are pretty comfortable with just dropping off their product or service right and and you know curiosity. I. Think is is you know the number one kind of innovative you know skill that you need right ask a Lotta questions and in think bigger than your product or service that's it and what you see typically with as companies get bigger as you get just the opposite, you get these. The fee thumbs security takes over or some kind of compliance department takes over, and then all of a sudden the website is unusable. From the customer standpoint and and I've certainly had that experience with you know my mortgage holder and my. Mobile. Older. They're like, yeah, your user id or your your code. and. It's. Like okay. What's your best friends I named from first grade and like all I WANNA do is pay my bill and that's all I wanted to do. And you know the great thing is, is that these principles in these mindsets in these strategies it's not just retail. In fact, I'd say I'd say it's more. It's it's way easier have impact in non retail industries in retail and everything, and so I like working with every buddy that's not retail and stuff so whether it's insurance or industrial services or Automotive in supply chain you know. Driving for continued improvement and new types of business models is is is really exciting and I think that's what kind of people take from the book and and take from Amazon is like this isn't about retail and everything. This is about business model development, operational excellence, and and exploring on behalf of your past, and that's it because I I, Kinda come from the enterprise software infrastructure world and when Neff Amazon web services came out and. I knew the guy in charge if it worked with him. You know longtime ago early. Who is that Jeff? Bar. Yeah Evangelists. Yup Absolutely. Allen Vermeulen Juno Allen. Allen. We work together in the mid nineties. And I was like, how are they going to compete to be right? I mean I. Don't know if you had any participation in that or observation. Well. Yeah. I mean. You know part of aws came from, we need to build technology infrastructure and services that was good enough for Amazon, retail right and turning inside out. To have extra developers was forcing function to make sure that it was good enough to withstand the rigors of what we needed and only external commercial we're going to be in developers we're going to be highly critical of those services. Then what they found was developers loved the on demand You know pay sip model of infrastructure computing services that were being offered and and so they've just continue to add to the capabilities into the stack of of it but. Don't Amazon. Each their own dog food rights of the US. Those things they feed that back in, and then they make the just continue to make it supported simpler something that's hard. Just continue to make simple in simpler for people to use, and that's it, and that's why it's been so successful because it's so hard to copy or compete against. Because when the other players IBM and Oracle and even salesforce try and do it, it's like they're still thinking like the nineties and now. It's a whole new world yet. That and they don't have a business to run on top of their own capabilities right and so you know that complement of being a platform company in providing services that both Amazon. The retailer provides as well as others like that that that combination is really unique. So the marketplace business that I got to launch like young bad as A. Capability, and so. It was really during that time that we became clear that we were going to be two types of companies. We were GONNA go retailer form a platform company and a platform company built services that others would use, and we end I think the killer feature. The Amazon is always focused on with their platform businesses is making itself service and and that notion of I need to make whatever my proposition to you to be so easy. So obvious. In abstracted, you abstract out the complexity by give it to you when you want it want when you need it that notion of making it self service that you don't have to. Connect with somebody in order to understand it that is I think great mindset in any business when you're providing a business or I like you actually want to make it self service, and that allows you to do so many other things within the business. And, and how did the company not get into just the bureaucracy, the political ness, the backbiting. Well, that's that that that's where the leadership principles are key right? Like you know leadership number thirteen in is disagree. But commit, and it's all about that that we're GONNA have vigorous. Debates on key topics lead with customer obsession with data. But at the end of the day, there's a decision that needs to be made were clear on who the decision maker is. Once they make a decision what we can expect from from everybody is that even if you disagreed, you're going to wholeheartedly buy into it and and work to make it successful. And so. That notion of disagree but commit is vital to you know staying agile making fast decisions and keeping velocity high of decision making and so that those are in those are the types of things that that help create that culture that avoids bureaucracy. Bureaucracy is Bazo. Basil's biggest concern frames on. So so they from this entrepreneurial spirit they. Hard, to create small teams. So they aren't you know although the organizations get big agenda like the teams that you're working with are very small. So there's high accountability Everybody knows the details, their service, their team of their of their relation, and and they are very mindful of of how to stay agile and continue to take that and. Kind of keep it, keep it fun and keep it accountable keep accountable for people and how how engaged is Basil's in all of these things. I mean, does it take somebody with a hammer to kind of make sure that the the trains run on time or? Your. I'm projecting but not right. It's been a long time since I've left the organization. They have three CEO's now right so again so so Jeff is one CEO and he's the chairman and founder runs consumer Andy Jesse runs aws, right but the the entire leadership gets these principles and so so no jeff doesn't have to. Personally continue to get involved in. You. Know making sure the right things get done but yet like you know he, he does have a an attention to detail that I've seen a lot of really good CEO's that he's able to figure out what this is something I need to get involved with right might seem like a really minor issue but it but it's it's kind of a canary in the coalmine type issue right. which is like, well, if this can happen, it's actually emblematic maybe some bigger issues, right? So he has an amazing ability to dive deep quickly and to get at the heart of the Root Oz and to keep things moving. But obviously with that ties of business organization, you know he's ease involved with a minor fraction of the details and stuff, but that's again back to the leadership principles. That's why those are so vital to. because. Helps them all get on the same page and end understand how we worked together and how were they communicated through the organization and reinforced. The leadership initials. Yes. Yeah So they're written down they have orientation to him they interviewed for him. They referenced them when they're in meeting too when they're explaining something. On in in lots of ways, they're you know they have you know saying that you know these principles are not a poster on the wall, right? Like they the principals get used everyday meetings every day references. Again for for people development for hiring. and. So you know in lots of ways they used every day. That's cool. It has very unique I mean have you ever seen accompanied? a I. Think there are a few other companies out there that have have some of these this orientation of like, Hey, let's get clear on how we work together today, but it's not many in everything right and so I think you know I won't say you know it's not unique, but it's certainly not typical. And When people don't. Really, fit in is, is there a clear path to move them or correct them? I think it depends is is a question. It is a demanding place to work right and and they shouldn't make any apologies for that right and so it's not for everybody nor should it be no places for every type of personality or whatever your personal goals or objectives capabilities are and everything, and so they keep they keep the high bar relative to. Hiring. Great talent and that talent asked to. Meet the contract of commitment you know and results, and so you know they move they pretty quickly when things aren't aren't working now. And I guess I don't have to ask where they can get the book the listeners. Yeah so it's available in. Paperback. It's available in kindle it's available in. audio all from Amazon. Yes. Excellent Hey John I really appreciate your time. Today. Yeah Brian. Thanks thanks for the conversation and I hope I I give your audience some cool ideas, and if people want to get connected with you, do you a website? Yes. Oh. You know that the Amazon Dot Com is my website and so you can. You can see it there connect with me there. was. A great conversation. I love learning the inner workings of company and then kind of pushing on the cultural differences when you try and do something that's. Very different different than what people are used to people used to the phony smiling and nodding, and then going off and doing whatever they want I kind of live that for a long time and it was really always hard trying to get people aligned getting people even with the within the same company talking to each other calling each other back instead of the backbiting and finger pointing and blaming the kind of gets us all into. Thief domes and tribes within the major tribe. The company itself has to be aligned on. It's true north principles, and if those aren't written enforced and built into the culture, the DNA of the company, it just doesn't work and when it does, you obviously see what happens Amazon just amazing machine right now and we should all be working that way within our company within our teams to be working together to find a way of. Having. A little bit of friendly competition, but not this back biting type stuff that I see so far in every company also I wanNA give you an update on the courses. Now I've got a couple of major courses. One is start the conversation and get the meeting. This is a typically for business development rep sales development reps, but also having tremendous success in marketing if you're in marketing. And you're trying to find sales qualified leads leads that are in markets or have interest and identified the organization and be able to give it to a sales rep, and they can run with it and start developing that relationship and get the deal rolling. Now, what happens with most of our products in the BBC spaces people are either in market or they their latent the latent ones is. Really, ninety nine percent of our total market are Tam total addressable market. But what we do is just try and pull them in through inbound, but they're not gonNA find us. They're not looking for us. We have to go look for them, but we can't go look for them and then go okay from cold to interest it and a phone call it just doesn't happen anymore doesn't. Happen to you doesn't happen to me and we think it's going to happen to other people with these twenty two year old people right out of college. So what I do is show a natural scientifically proven way of building a relationship and interest in you in your product in your company and all of a sudden you can warm up this late market ninety, nine percent of your Tam. Get them interested. Also what I've got is this close the conference. Closing the conflict sale if you're selling a larger priced item something that's in the fifty K. plus per year type of thing, where requires multiple people multiple decision makers within an account I have a course on that. It shows you how to do that how companies really make product selections and how do you manage that and drive it and make it happen today this everyone's doing the same silly thing that thrown proposals and with discounts and. Hoping that it'll be closed by the end of the quarter, and unfortunately, it doesn't because they don't understand the inner workings of a company think about how much can you spend of the company's money without getting approval political support administrative support within your company not much. You probably have access to a corporate credit card and you can probably buy a plane ticket that you'll have to justify now trying by fifty k. of something. This is what? People don't understand people think that all that person's just gonNA take it to their manager. Get it signed go to procurement. That's not how it works. If you don't know how it works basically got the blind leading the blind in the sales process today and everyone's focused on commission expense instead of total revenue, what we want is that latent market revenue. So on my website beat beater be revenue dot com under training you can check out the courses and if you're serious I mean when I say serious I mean if you talk to me and it's a match, you'll order it as opposed to just I, want to talk to you and get your advice. This is not free consulting this is. Basically discussing if the courses of match for you or not, you can pick a fifteen minute spot. I've got a calendar link under the training tab. You can pick a spot and we can talk it over to see if it makes sense on the website, you can get a free copy of my book. How how companies make products selections in that, I'll give a high level overview of the inner workings of the company. The course goes deep dive with multiple use case examples, and it includes office hours. So it's not just a video course. It's an interactive course with office hours every other Friday and the first tab is the the the to Fridays. Amonte that we have office hours, we do a screen share I pick a topic based off of the questions that people have submitted over the past week and I prepare answers, ideas, suggestions, feedback. So it is a mentorship program The course content is available day one it's a year long monthly payment you can pay all at once if you'd like. Feel free to ask me any questions via email. At Brian Dot Burns at BB REVENUE DOT COM and I hope you really take a good look at it because he's courses are going to change your life I mean I've spent the last five years teaching this stuff face to face. I WanNa do it online now sick traveling and I want to help as many people as I can. So it's about half the price is what people would pay if they did it in face to face mode where I would customize it particularly for you but it's really the squeaky wheel gets the grease anybody who has any questions I answer all questions. And we'll get back to you by the the office hours. That's it. I'll see you next time. Please check out the episodes of the BBC Revenue Leadership podcast as well as the brutal truth about sales and selling stop by connect up with me on linked in and I'd really appreciate you telling somebody about the show.

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Best of The Herd: 07/12/2019

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

42:51 min | 1 year ago

Best of The Herd: 07/12/2019

"A listener of your caliber has fine taste tasted favors a smoke AAA chicken rat would new gold bruce from Paneira. Get Him on the go with a rapid pickup breakfast. It's fast not fast food from Panera food as it should be. Thanks for listening to the best of heard podcast be sure to catch US live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon Pacific on Fox sports radio N._F._S.. One find your local station for the hurt at Fox sports radio DOT COM or stream it live every day on the iheartradio APP by searching heard <unk> heard is the best of the herd with Colin cowherd on Fox sports radio. Oh what a Friday what a Friday another interesting day this in Los Angeles live is the heard wherever you may be however you may be listening Iheartradio Fox sports radio and right ear on F s one joy Taylor is joining me. We thought today would be one of those summer layup days. You come in have some fun and we got ourselves a lead story. We've got a topic WESTBROOK TO HOUSTON. I'm wearing rockets colors today. This is the gift that keeps giving it's incredible the I will say this again outside of the finals finals. I'm not sure the off season for the N._B._A.'s not way better than the regular season. It's fascinating. What do you talk N._B._A.? Con Example thirty eight in the last two weeks. This is why I talk the N._B._A.. Great Soap Opera by the way Westbrook and James Harden according to a reporter in Houston both of course for a reunion yeah. This is the gorgeous Hollywood couple breaks up. Get back together and six months later. Why don't we get back together? We couldn't stand each other. It's not gonNA work long term but it it's interesting. I mean we just know. WESTBROOK wouldn't work with Kobe. Harden wouldn't work with Kobe. They're all to ball dominant right so when it doesn't work perfectly and it doesn't win in Houston we're all GONNA BLAME WESTBROOK right. That's what Colin Coward was going to do. The herds going to pay Liane Westbrook but no it will be on hardened too because James Harden is simply a better version of Russell Westbrook. He's a much better player. That's it. It's the same guy ones better. James Harden Dominates January James Harden because he dominates January is exhausted by the second round of the playoffs James Harden's difficult to play with James Harden takes most the the defensive side off because he expend so much energy on the offensive side both hard and Westbrook are hard to play with and unravel late and I've watched one unravel westbrook and one quit harden in the postseason and their stories are similar Oklahoma City was convinced Westbrook was the answer to everything in a very smart guy. Sam Presi wouldn't listen to anybody it ignored WESTBROOK's issues which even I could spot and Daryl Morey in Houston hardens the answer to everything and won't listen to anybody that says he's hard to play with. Nobody wants to play with him. I can bang on Westbrook all day. Katie hardened deep order but it gets better mellow tried to work with Harden Chris. Paul tried to work with harden. They tried to work hard in Oklahoma City with Westbrook and durant and they got rid of him. It's not like James is easy but James is better than Westbrook. He's one of the great one on one players in the history of the N._B._A.. But both Westbrook and harden. They're not bad guys. WESTBROOK had billy Donovan for years as a coach. They got along hardens not a bad guy. He gets along with Dan Tony. They're not coach killers. They're not bad guys. They're both fashionable. They're both really fun to watch but they both have a huge flaw. Is that the N._B._A.. Playoffs for forty years has been officiated differently than the regular season so you get to the playoffs and with each round the referee swallow the whistle and let more pushing and more bumping and more physicality and Westbrook in hardened get much less efficient and much more frustrated once they get into the playoffs and both erode and dissolve and don't look like the same player fire. The difference is of course hardens just a better version of it. He's a better version and both Oklahoma City with Westbrook and Houston with harden. We talk about them. They're great highlights. They're on T._v.. All the time they're fascinating they make you two sides hardened so great but very polarizing Westbrook's and amazing talent but polarizing and both disappointed in the playoffs so when this doesn't work everybody's GonNa Bang on Westbrook but if you look at most championship players in my lifetime they play both sides they elevate in the playoffs. Tim Duncan play Defense Garnett played defense. Paul Pierce Played Defense Coby Played Defense Pepin Played Defense D. Wade play Defense Lebron played defense pence Scottie Pippen played defense. Most Leonard Plays Defense Harden and Westbrook have so much energy on the offensive end dribbling around the floor. They can't play great. Defense hardens gotten better but he's exhausted. Austin Westbrook tries but he's exhausted. Their Games are fascinating but severely flawed. It's just that hardens is flawed less but Houston's convinced he's the answer to everything Hardin and Okay Z.. Zi was convinced that of course Westbrook was the answer to everything but neither is and both will struggle to play with each other Chris Carter talked about it this morning on first things first just because you're talented doesn't mean you play well with others. I've been around too many of these guys. These guys are so self absorbed. I know that I was one of them. Guys Man and let's not forget what harden has done the last several years last year thirty six six and seven. I'll need Russ. I just did this by myself. Hardness plan level right now. He feel like he don't need anyone and when he gets into the playoffs that's his mentality so what's He gonNa do to Russ. He's going to turn the team over to rush like man. This is a juggling act like so rusty. Just GonNa take a back seat now after having his own team. I don't know how they're going to do it. If you look at the time of possession both of them have the ball. It's impossible for them to continue playing style. They're playing by the way you could make the argument they'll change but I was told something years ago by a very successful financial planner very smart guy smarter than me. He says people don't change unless they're going to go broke her die. You can go up to a billionaire at fifty and say say you're going to go broke unless you change he'll change or you can go to that fifty year old billionaire and say if you don't stop smoking you'll die and he'll stop smoking but when you take twenty or thirty year old who's got one hundred and fifty two hundred million in the bank. And have been rewarded for their selfishness and you say just change they won't why would they. They're fashion icons N._B._A.. Stars talked about thirty million a year on shoes. They're not going to change. Why would I change change if the market keeps rewarding me? I'm only changing if I'm dying or going broke and harden and Westbrook are doing neither let me shift to this. I am an opinion EST and this morning. Everybody wants to know who on the tray. Whenever trait happens this team eighteen team that team neither did now Vegas believes Houston did but I can make an argument for both neither really won the trade now Houston does get Westbrook? He is younger healthier still mostly in his athletic prime and Chris Paul wasn't and Houston Houston got rid of Chris Paul's contract. That's first or second worst contract nilly so Houston have a parade Oklahoma City can say this morning. We were being held hostage by Westbrook. He was screaming get reporters. He couldn't get along with teammates. He was hard to coach. No other star worked and we got a bunch of draft picks Oklahoma City. You go through a parade in my opinion. Neither one the minute it Chris Paul's Hammy went sideways for Houston. They were absolutely screwed Daryl Morey. This morning got the worst analytic three point shooter late Games in the League. Is that a win in Oklahoma City got a bunch of draft picks congratulations. You'll be awesome twenty thirty four. You know what these are to me. Oklahoma City and Houston both had ships and both ships were sinking and Oklahoma City said Hey. We're GonNa let it sink. We're GONNA get our insurance money back. We're going to start over and buy a new boat. We're just GonNa let it sink takes him insurance money. Let it sink and that's what they did today. We're just letting the boat sink but we we're going to recoup. Hoop draft picks slash insurance money so we got some money back Houston saying we're not letting the boat saying we're going to salvage it or pay a lot of money. We're going to patch up. The hole in the boat. Okay is still leaking a patch it up forget the insurance money draft. We're GONNA a salvage a sinking ship in both instances Oklahoma said he's not winning a title forever and I don't think Houston's winning a title now they both felt like sinking ships one wants to salvage this is not ideal westbrook. It's Brooke and Hardens Ideal. One is an atrocious analytic player and both need the ball. I can see listen if I'm Sam Presi this morning and most people vegas included feel Houston one. If I'm Sam oppressed this morning and and I I've never been this situation but I've had friends who are in the situation. Westbrook was fighting with fans. He was fighting with media. It was ugly. I was told the owner of Oklahoma City was done with Westbrook that after blew up at fans this zero three or four times the owner was just done with it was bad optics. He was fighting with the media. The owner felt like Lytham medicines just getting embarrassing. This thing's not working. Let's move on. He told Sam Prestige but I have had friends before that are in relationships and then it's a very financially good relationship. There's a lot of money and they get a divorce and they gotta go live in an apartment and they feel like they won. They don't want they're not held hostage. They wake up happy. Nobody's screaming at them. You Know Sam Press TV this morning. I get a do over yes. I'm not as rich. I don't have westbrook. Don't have Paul George. We weren't in the West. We're not winning titles that stuff. I maybe my apartment's small. Maybe don't have the money. Maybe don't have the wealth but I wake up happy. I like scouting. I like finding new talent. Sam Prestige pry likes that Daryl Morey. Yes you got rid of the horrible contract act and now have a bad contract. It should be noted. I'm looking at graph right here for those who think Houston one with very few exceptions once an N._B._A.. Guard turns thirty one the all-star years dry up Russell Westbrook's turning thirty one here real soon. I don't think either t one they made the most of sinking ships ones letting it sink and recouping their insurance prince money and starting over and building a new boat and the other is going to try and salvage it in look better for a while but I don't think we'll translate to the ultimate prize be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine A._M.. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio One and the IHEARTRADIO APP wasn't focused Chris Bruce Art and I am here with my partner Rob Parker and together. We are the odd couple that's right. Join Chris and me every day as we give you. The hottest hottest spiciest sports takes that you won't hear anywhere else and for the Record Rob Parker is the odd one. I'm the more reasonable what so listen to the couple with Chris Bruce Hart and RAF Hawker on Apple podcast born with the iheartradio APP or wherever you listen to podcasts. It's great to have you on a Friday. I couldn't wait to get to the show today. I was thinking like Fridays in the summer. I take some of them off. You know it's time for us to kind of reboot for the football season last night that trade half and I'm like I ah GONNA start the show from my bedroom right now right ago. Joy Taylor is joining me first of all if Sam Prestige who runs Oklahoma City was the Lakers G._M.. He'd be getting pulverized. He had arden he had durant he had westbrook. He got to one finals that do much with what they did and this has not to pick on Sam Prestige because I don't know Sam Presi but it is funny who the media falls in love with Danny Aines and Sam Prestige you you know who i WanNa talk about the G._M.. Of Denver in Utah those guys are that a pretty good job but you know it's interesting now so Oklahoma City is going to let the boat sink start over they got fifteen draft picks first round draft picks in the next seven years but many of them <hes> pass past two thousand twenty three basically all the players they're going to draft or now eleven years old and by the way it's never been harder to draft players because you only have one year of college basketball tape and so if you find a big ten guard you like take. You've got about four or five games a year where he plays against another N._B._A.. Level Guard that you can look at it and say okay and half the time. You don't know if the kids calling the plays or the coach because college coaches tend to be domineering his ease engineering the offense. That cat is its top. That's why we have more bus. That's than ever in the N._B._A.. Draft College at three and four years a tape against other N._F._l.. Guys so you know. I think it's going to be pretty bleak for Oklahoma City but this is the way the N._B._A.. Media doesn't they fall in love with Sam Presi who basically chose <music> size over shooters and whiffed on fifty percent of his first picks but it had a nickname the process everybody likes it. He's now a consultant football. Everybody loves SAM press T.. Three draft picks harden Westbrook durant they got the one finals they butchered the James Harden trade anything for it and in the end they had a weird Rostro guys who couldn't shoot including their star Westbrook weird the big mistake Sam Prestige did and I'm not here to pick on him. He's people very smart. Probably a great guy but bill belichick has a theory and this is a theory of everything with Bill Belichick. If you don't know your own personnel then you are clueless about the other thirty one teams you cannot make trade. If you don't know your own personnel that's why the Patriots and join knows this because she was in Miami and Pittsburgh rivals. Nobody knows their own personnel personnel like New England. They always bail on a guy and you're like why did they bail. Oh that guy can't play anymore. They don't every year Sam Presi never understood how great harden was didn't get equal value. Andy embraced embraced Westbrook any Eddie Years of history to know that Westbrook would not wanna title could never be the Star and be would not age well. All you have to do is go read an N._B._A.. History Book six three point guards who were hyper hyper athletic and can't shoot John Wall Derrick Rose Iverson Marbury Steve Francis Fall off cliffs. They don't age well because once they lose to hyper athletic ability at thirty thirty one now what do I have. This is why Steph Curry Rian Klay Thompson could play forever Kobe play forever. Kobe did play forever. It could shoot the bottom line here. Sam Presi made a mistake on his two stars. He didn't know his own personnel. Well enough. Westbrook was never designed to be a championship player. He's a ball dominant hyper athletic point guard that can't shoot. I've seen that it's called Marbury Francis de Rose John Wall Westbrook <unk> Iverson. No Iverson obviously has other great skills and he's an all time great talent how many titles so this is why G._M.. Should hang out together because you can learn a lot from other people in other businesses. If you look at the history of every business smart people work less smart people pat Riley's made a living working dumb G._M.'s. I'm not saying impressed but Pat Riley's history. He works Jerry West History. They work the FBI minus G._M.'s. That's how it works in stocks. That's how it works. In tech the smart guys work the less smart guys and in this instance you can always find a sucker Washington. Did this John Wall after his first contract. You're like he's immature. He can't shoot he's hoop a hyper athletic and doesn't play well with Bradley beal. Go find a sucker does somebody WHO's GonNa be out there. He's been all story because a hundred miles an hour. Go find a sucker. Give Him John Wall get draft picks and a couple of good players. That's your job as a G._M.. To know your personnel I've been saying about John Wall for years. I've been saying it's about Westbrook. Go read a history book in the N._B._A.. They don't win. Titles don't play well with others. They don't age well. Walls aging poorly rose age poorly barbara age poorly Francis Bay Westbrook now harden. I think will age better because he can shoot so he will age better not as ideally as like a Kobe but he will age better be sure to catch live editions of the heard Weekdays at noon noon eastern nine A._M.. Pacific Pay Clay Travis host of the outkick the coverage podcast join me every day as I give you the nation strongest opinions on the biggest stories in sports if you're looking for sports podcasts at smarter original funny and Authentic outkick the coverage bridget clay travis the perfect podcast for you I even recently launched a brand new podcast called wins and losses with Clay Travis which features long form conversations with the biggest names in sports business and entertainment. Listen on Apple podcast or the iheartradio radio APP or wherever you listen to podcasts. It's very exciting. I don't remember a time in my life where we had like fifteen good duos so I'm going to take the. We're GONNA play a game here together. I don't know how this ends up okay because I wanted to surprise for both the audience and myself and you and everybody buddy so I took the top twelve duos in my opinion the top twelve duos and I wanted to have a scoring system that I don't know what the final score will be so my scoring system depends on my formula right so I believe duo should be based on two things one. Just what's their talent okay one through five one. It's not that talented five okay. It's great and then chemistry. This league's fit league all right so we'll they work together because stars don't they don't win titles in this league. It's pretty simple if D. Wade and Lebron though not perfect figured out a way similar games to work together and so their chemistry wasn't perfect but their talent was so absurd tired and they were smart enough to kind of make it work Kevin Garnett Paul Pierce Rondo for a couple years was a perfect fit right it all worked they all play defense so we're GonNa take all these duos and and let's just play along radio the on T._v.. Audience so let's start with our annual report card. Let's start with Lebron Anthony Davis F._M.. Okay their talents five Anthony's the best big man in his Prime Lebron will be one of the top two players in the N._B._A.. So I'd say talent one through five. I'll give them a five now. I'm mulling go three on chemistry because this 'cause I've watched Lebron Kevin Love and have watched Lebron Chris Bosh the Lebron big guy is a little problematic Lebron tends to at times lose his confident in his jumper. So what does he WANNA do drive to the basket and score over smaller defenders but Anthony Davis spends a lot of his time ninety percent of his buckets around the basket so again. These are too high functioning basketball players but I don't think the chemistry will be flawless. I think it'll be very much like Lebron begs. We've seen this I mean I. I'm going off what I've seen <hes>. I don't think the chemistry will be as good as some other chemistry so that's my okay so let's go to the second one this is I think the second looks like you know Cohen Paul now. I'm not going to give them a five for town because Paul George is not nearly as good as Anthony Davis or Lebron James or Kawhi so I think he's more of a four Kalis a five so the talents a four and a half but I think they work hard-working nose down. Not a lot of drama defense offense can both at a jumper both respect each other. They have some similarities here but they're not bald dominant so even though they have similarities. I don't think they're ball dominant so I would give each of them four and a half talent four and a half chemistry all right. Let's go to Westbrook and James Harden all right talent. You can't deny it. James Harden is offensively the best one on one player in the League and I know you think I'm crazy on this but westbrook is a world class talent. I mean come on. He's got a forty four inch vertical gives you twenty seven and ninety s Mr Triple Double Chemistry. I don't think it works so my scoring system scoring Formula One through five their talent talent five four and a half to five their chemistry is a one all right. Let's go to the next one in this by the way is in no particular order. I'm just like how they ended up. We'll see okay. This is the warriors <hes> Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. ARE THERE DO I. I'll give the town of four Klay Thompson can be a little streaky and steph curry. I love him but there are times it gets sloppy and he's not much of a defender her so I'm going to give their talent of four now. Their chemistry is as good as any do all ever. I mean even their egos work like they're kind of for N._B._A.. Superstars are kind of like eagles steps not a great defender underplays extraordinary so he picks up for him so their talents of four there chemistry's Affi- I'm not I don't I forgot what my grades were here but the the chemistry on this is as good as chemistry is GonNa get. It's worked every year. It's been together next next one all right. This is <hes> Brooklyn's new team. <hes> Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving again Kevin's the first or second best player in the world in Kyrie's the best small finisher perhaps ever left and right hand. I I have my doubts on chemistry. A I think Kyri is a ball dominant guard harden I- Westbrook. I think he's hard to play with now did play in a couple of years really well with Lebron. Lebron was so much better than everybody else in the League. Lebron made bad coaches work. I don't don't think the chemistry is great so talent. I'd give them a five the Brooklyn duo chemistry work in progress. Maybe better early than late but I'd give it two and a half. Let's go to the next <hes> duo report card all right Milwaukee the town of four Janas and Chris Middleton crystals. I I give us a five Chris Middleton three <hes> so it becomes a four a Middleton's a really nice player. He's not special but he's a really nice player chemistry fantastic. You got the guy who scores low. You got the hardworking Guy Chris Middleton who can hit the jumpers again. I've seen doing this work for a couple of years now the chemistry here. They're both good guys. Janas was ignored for a long time Chris Middleton's and overachiever. They're good guys they work hard very respectful teammates both incredibly coach -able chemistries of five in Milwaukee next one all right this is this is the sixers 'em Bean Ben Simmons again their talents. I like Simmons better than everybody else. I think he's absurd. I M beads arguably. The best big man everybody loves him scares me about the physical stuff but he is a monster. Mr I mean the guy the guy is absurd talent now. Ben Simmons have been seven skit hit a jumper. I would put their talent that a five but I'm going to give it a four and a half because Ben Simmons as everything well except shoot and you gotta dig in for that. I don't don't like how they work. I don't like their chemistry. I don't like it. Simmons needs the open paint and beads not gonNA move outside much. I don't think it works. I think listen if it worked they would have won the east because there are talent allen is absurd. We got another one all right. Here's a Boston won a Kemba Walker and Jason Tatum listen or not. They're not knocking anybody. Socks off at this point in talent chem is a really good player. He's a be Jason Tatum plateaued. I think he'll pop more this year but he's a baby. Was He twenty years old so if you're GONNA if you're gonNA give us a five you know. He's more of a three now chemistry. I'm going to guess here but I think it works. Canvas fairly egoists Jason Tatum in Brad Stevens. I think the tate I think the the chemistry and that's pretty good. I think they're ceilings low. I think it's a team that will win playoff games if you put them in the West they'd be kind of a team. They wouldn't C._B._S.. Good as UTAH. I don't have to be as good as Denver I wouldn't be I don't think they'd be as good as Portland Lakers clippers but I think in the east you know what you can have an off night in the east and win games and you build that chemistry and you build that confidence. I like the Celtics Chemistry more than their talent two and a half talent four for a chemistry next one all right blazers now you may say how are you giving Damian Lillard and C._J.. mccollum just a three and talent because Damian's fantastic siege as a really nice player but do you think C._J.. As special is a Janas coli izzy hardened his no. I think he's a good player. I think Damian's filthy now the strength of this. I think their chemistry is Great. It's not easy to play when you have a your best players warriors guard and he's up scoring guard like Damian Lillard but Damian's good dude <hes> mccullum they they play well together there they are they're poor man's Stephan clay and I say poor man just because Steph and Claire the best backcourt in my life Damian and C._J.. Or what are the top five or six back course of my life so I'd give their town of three their chemistry of four and what's left all right the jazz now this one's fascinating because I actually liked their team Mike Conley Donovan Mitchell chill now only giving their talent two and a half because I do think Conley's passed his physical prime although I like him a lot he's some injury stuff to worry about and Donovan Mitchell has not hit his prime <hes> very good defender. WHO's becoming a better offensive player? I think chemistry is going to be great. I'll give it a four. I think they're going to work really well together. I may be low balling their chemistry. I gotta feeling her. Chemistry is going to be great. They're both really good. Guys both play defense but I can't give them a ton of points on talent because I think Mike's past his prime and Donald is not into his prime so maybe a little low on talent but I put talent two and a half chemistry at fourth anything laughed. Oh Denver Yeah Yeah Yeah okay now. This is interesting Jamal Murray and the joker. I give their town of four first of all Yokich. I think is the best ball handling passing big ever. He's really good and I love the way they work together. Jamal Murray's the perfect guy off ball with the joker in Denver. I think their chemistry is Great. I'll give it a five and I think it's just going to get better when they're on the court together. That team is really good. <hes> I'm not going to get their town if I think Jamal Murray at this point is more three to three and a half player I think he's getting better and I like him a lot. <hes> Yokich is the most underrated player in the N._B._A.. He's got a he's got a N._B._A.. Bad Body he plays in the Rocky Mountain. They were too young to get noticed until the playoffs but he is absurdly talented. He is the best passer on their entire team and I'm on the. The last guy there's only been three centers in my life that great passers Bill Walton arvidas Bonus and Yokich like victim you the best passer on their team is a center and we got anything else. Oh Mavericks Okay. I'm going to give them a higher talent grade than you'd suspect four and a half <hes> Luca Danni pitch and Krista porzingas. I think they're absurdly gifted. Just don't forget how good porzingas was has the N._B._A.. Ever had a seven four slasher that's it now. Their chemistry is going to be very very interesting. I I just don't know I just have to watch it. Luca is going to score a bunch of points. You're going to look up and fifteen years with Luca. Danni and he's going to be a top seven score in league history. He's GonNa Score Twenty Four points a game for twelve straight years. He's just a natural score. He was in Europe is here and then a porzingus so I give their town of four and a half their chemistry at three and a half now now now don't show me the tears yet okay so for my radio audience the T._V. Audience. I don't know where they end up. I said I WANNA score everybody but I don't want any bias so used I and my staff said there's going to be three tiers. The title contender tear the very very good and interesting but not a title contender tier and it just it won't last long tear it. It won't work so let's go to tier one now. I'M GONNA turn up and watch what is tier one okay tier. One is Warriors Bucks Denver and Clippers use so that to me should be favored for the N._B._A.. Championship talent and Chemistry Now obviously coaching matters bench matters. That's tier one Denver Clippers Warriors Bucks by the way that's not that Denver's higher than people think what's Tier Two which is very very interesting but a notch below the title teams Tier Two is Lebron. Di Luca PORZINGAS USS Durant kyrie which won't have next year and Damian C._J.. mccollum so these are playoff teams they win multiple series but they may be get ousted in the conference finals. This is for this year yeah and then what's the tier three which is just not that great what Boston Houston Philly Utah well you got a great coach in Utah has a very good starting five so we're only judging duos right. We need other stuff. We need a bench and a coach so all right so <hes> Utah's the team. I really like in Tier Three Conley Donovan Mitchell Mike out of his prime Donovan's not yet in it one more heard the heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio APP search her to listen and live or on demand. Whenever you like curse thought he was going on vacation he was done with this nonsense at this morning? Oh Lord all right. Everybody's telling me Houston won the trade. Really what do you make of that in. You know usually we don't agree when it comes to Russell Westbrook but on this one I do agree with you now. Let me say this since the trade. I've been in contact with five or six N._B._A.. Type some players ex players. Here's some executive scouts things like that. They all like the trade for Houston and they're bringing up two things they're bringing up. Houston is going to be able to play much faster with Westberg which is true and they're bringing up the relationship between between Russ and James Harden and they like each other. They wanted this. They'll make it work. I still am not binding. This is a Hail Mary from the Houston Rockets feels like that to me. There's no question about it now. They're going to be good. I mean they'll make the playoffs offs and they are a type of team. I'd hate to play because Russ's relentless and he's just coming at you. All forty eight minutes and and harden is just so good that you know they're going to be a little bit of a problem but can they win a championship ship. No I like several teams better than them and the fact that the matter is when Russ and hard and play together seven years ago it was entirely different number one. Both of them were at different parts of their career especially art. He's coming off the bench as a role player now. He's the best offensive player ever right. I mean he's being mentioned in the same breath is Michael Jordan and wilt chamberlain so that's all different number two they had Kevin Durant people act like it was just those two they had Kevin Durant who was still one of the top five players in the league even at that point and he made everything go and then three the league was different. The three pointer was not as prominent so when they played together in okay see when hardwood come in he would handle the ball and Russ would be off the ball which was fine back then because you could have a guy off the ball could slash cut you know and and penetrate and all that but couldn't really shoot back thin like dwayne Wade was fine off Lebron plan off the ball with Lebron in Miami. That'd be a challenge right now in today's N._B._A.. Where two three or so prominent so? I don't think it's going to work to the point where they could win a championship ship so I see look you. I heard you talking about if it doesn't work a win. It doesn't work. Everybody's GonNa Blame Russ. You made a great point about hard because if it were going join to work harden would have the best chance of making it work thank you because his game is more versatile like I think Russ by himself in a might Dan tony system would be treacherous for opponents like him coming down a high pick and roll with the floor sprayed and shooters around. He'd never had an okay see so I think he'd be dangerous in that but hearts not just going to sit there off the ball but harden is more capable. I believe of playing playing off the ball then Russ's Rusnak going to be very effective because he doesn't shoot well and so that's where harden but but look everybody's talking about. They like each other they wanted to happen. Hardening Chris liked each other. They may not have even his closest Russ in harden but Chris didn't pick the rockets out of a hat remember they had worked everything out. He calls the clippers. Hey I want you to trade me to the rockets. Don't don't think he didn't talk with hard and they say yeah we'd be great together so on and so forth and hard did not change his game one iota thank you which shocked me like this shocked me to see Chris Paul off the ball as a two guard that's what he was with hard and for the most part yeah and if he didn't change of a Chris this is he going to change it for us so there were reports and Daryl Morey denied them that Chris Paul and James Harden. Everything's fine and I'm like it seems to me everything the reporters. We're all right at one very good right now. Apparently they had to make the move my first order of business if I was there a maury would have been to sit Chris James Down one on one and try to work it out and if I get some traction there then I get them together with Mike and Tony. How can we tweak this thing and make it work like that? This was a hail Mary. They panicked for no reason. Now I get it. The Lakers and the clippers now are really good and pro and I think better than Houston would have been even with C._p._i.. Three and harden but two years ago this did work. You had the warriors down. Three two of Chris Ball doesn't get hurt. Maybe you're the world champions last year. You lost the Golden State which was even without K.. D. Was a great team. They very well may have been the second best team in the N._B._A.. The last two years and once they lost g state they just panicked for they're obsessed by g state right and they let everything out to and Daryl Morey is fascinating because he's the poster child for analytics and I'm with you. I like Manna lyrics. Analytics is a part of it but it's not going to dictate everything I do but he completely ignores analytics. When it comes moves I mean Chris Paul? Jimmy Butler who they didn't get but he wanted Carmelo Anthony Dwight Howard none of those make sense analytically you having analytics coach who all degrees you paint shots. It's it's bizarre what's going on okay so joy touched on this <hes> Chris Paul Trade. Is there a place that fits to you. You know what I mean. Obviously Miami is in serious play which will be good for the Chris they wouldn't they wouldn't be a contender in the east but they'd be better navy pretty good. Here's what the fit that I really am intrigued by and I brought it up on here once before about three or four weeks ago right Philadelphia you you you sound like my staff morning. Chris Paul Josh Richardson our Horford Joel Embiid and Tobias Harris in the East. That's danger okay. So what will what am I giving now. You Been Ben Simmons. Okay now. Here's I love that you would do that. Okay Time staff letting give me that option. Let me finish this. Let me finish it okay so I'm surprised you like Ben Simmons giving you and I. I am a big Ben Simmons. So am I but eight to move him but Chris. We both love him but Philadelphia. He works well with shooters in a clear lane. Philadelphia got more big this year right. Philadelphia doesn't work for Ben Simmons. It doesn't ah I got Horford in the mid like I'm beat in the middle. They drafted kit from Washington. Who can't shoot but is a great defensive player? Tobias Harris had even if even if Simmons ads the jumper. It's not like he's coming back. Next year is as Klay Thompson the way if I'm if I'm Sam Prestige this morning and I have those draft picks in. I Have Ben Simmons. Yes I feel like I one right on build. I got my guy who could penetrate and kick and I'm mobile shooters around. Do and here's now if I'm philly look there's a little bit of hesitancy because Chris Average fifteen points last year shot forty one percent forty two percent from the floor way down for him. If I'm Philly I may want to wash the the first month of the season and see is was that decline last year just because there was the injury in the situation and harden or has Chris Really Fall in off okay so if the deal goes it would be embiid Horford Horford Jason Richardson Tobias Harris Chris Paul Boy. They're not allowed to blanks on that team now again. I Chris got a play about sixty games but again Chris doesn't need to be your closer exact a need to be toes or general get the right guys the ball you gotta shooter in Josh Richardson Tobias. I got my man inside who Horford actually can spread the floor and shoot to. He's a smart veteran. Let me tell you something I take back all the bad bad things I said about Sam Press TV if he would do that I got because here's the thing with Simmons now. Presi can take Ben Simmons and say listen. I know what he is now. He is a driver in score. Now I can take all these draft picks and get shooters. The Problem Philly is Simmons was the best available player on the market they drafted him but it had embiid so they their best player was embiid and they'd whiffed on a bunch of guys so in beads the star in the middle but then the next draft or like Simmons assimilate the best available players we get him. They don't work together and honestly to real problem and you just have to put the blame where it belongs Ben Simmons how this is what his fourth or fifth no no way wasn't hurt so it doesn't mean it's thirty or start your plan before the League because remember the one year he sat out God. Why didn't you work on that jumper? I get it you had success all your life without it but it's a different N._B._A.. I'm GonNa tell you something right now. I am throwing a parade and okay see if if they make that note for okay so the question is Philly and I get the questions like I said it's not one hundred percent foolproof. Okay gears what I want. Here's what I want. I Want Chris Paul but you got seventeen picks Gimme two first round pick. I'll do it but you gotta give me picks yeah because you got it by the way some insurance I mean Oklahoma City now. has they have so many picks. It's absurd like the guys can all make the roster so just say listen. I want three first round picks and Chris Paul because of the knee you get Ben Simmons. I do both teams I do that tomorrow. That's brilliant if by team could pitch ideas as well as you I would listen to him what about and they still have schreuder. Okay see you only do so. Maybe Chris Paul and Schreuder because Zac give me shooter gives me some insurance in case Chris Paul you you brought smoke today. Hey Sam Presi. I hope he's like I said okay see would do it. It makes all the sense in the world. I would love it for the question is Philadelphia and there's some legit questions but if you WANNA win phillies a win now moat how would that team in the east every chance to get to the finals. 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Tucker Carlson: Macs public house is gonna fight the shutdown.. and make money doing it?

Rusted Culture Podcast

08:04 min | Last month

Tucker Carlson: Macs public house is gonna fight the shutdown.. and make money doing it?

"So last week there was an interesting story that was in the news and it was on tucker carlson show. It was about a bar owner. Danny presi he had this bar in staten island. New york called max public house and what had happened was the city of new york had decided that the area of staten island that he was in was going to be declared an orange zone because there is a number of cova cases that reached a point where it had to become an orange zone based on the published criteria that they had been following in making these decisions so they turn that zone into the orange zone You couldn't have inside dining at his restaurant. he complained about it. They had people protesting outside. He was on the news and takeout with. We'd be okay in that situation but definitely not dining in. i guess you know like with most restaurants. The bar is kind of where they make their money but he decided the bar owner. Danny prestige decided to clear the bar in autonomous zone. Which is kind of weird way to put it. But in this case what he was saying was i don't care you guys do what you wanna do. You can say this is red green. I don't care. I'm gonna keep it open. And he taunted the new york mayor and governor in the process and he continued to serve inside the throughout the week. The sheriff's deputies were dispatched to go. They locked the man up. Or i should say they arrested. Danny who was later released a cook bartender in the in the bars lawyer who I'll show you a little bit later in this video here in a second they were also charged and then tucker carlson folks than he got involved so have a listen to this earlier this week. Police arrested the owner of a bar on staten island. Apparently the lockdown rules and this will surprise you but hey it's science only applied in the republican voting parts of staten island. That was so obviously political the whole thing. The protesters came. You could walk two blocks from the bar. Max public housing he indoors that any objection from the state health department will today. The owners of max public house met with city. Officials apparently didn't go. Well here's what they told us a short time ago. Hey tucker thanks for sending the camera out here to max public house so that we can make an announcement and give them updates on. What's going on the last couple of days. We've been closed since those recent events that i was taken out of here and we've taken a diplomatic approach. We've pleaded with the mayor and the governor and the sheriff to help work with us and to get small businesses open or to assist us in some way. Unfortunately that hasn't happened so the timeline has ended. And we're here to tell you that max public house is officially open and we will not close talk. Thanks for having us as always as his attorneys mall. Fonte and i have advisable keaton danny of the legal ramifications of their decisions as a proud staten island. At a very proud of eric. I stand and support them. We should tell you that every small business owner every single one so folks. That's that's what happened there. And again the whole thing that preceded. This was the fact that the city of new york actually decided to make their region a an orange zone so to move an area in the five boroughs to an orange zone. The state sets a benchmark of three percent positivity for covid nineteen testing on a seven day rolling average in ten or more new daily cases per one hundred thousand residents on seven day average for ten days so Who makes the call. Basically is the next question that i want to answer for you. And the state website states that the designated will be made only if the state department of health in consultation with the local department of health finds that based on the above listed metrics and other epidemiological factors such as an upward trend in total daily hospital admissions from residents of this geographic area. That has zone designation is appropriate. So in other words folks. It's not really political as with all things with tucker carlson to kind of get everybody riled up. He's got to make something political. That's that's just what they do. That's what tucker does he makes a living doing this so he's politicized this and we all know that new york city it's a big city it's a city of what eight and a half million people but what they're doing is they are actually making decisions that are based on fact you know through the input from the department of health so they're making decisions on who gets to be an orange zone and all this kind of stuff where the lines are. It's made on fact and it's not hyperbole. it's not conjecture. It's not something that they've just dreamed up so to me the city of new york. They're not being political here and whether we like it or not. It's within their right to make this decision based on what's going on with the pandemic so the question that i have here is does the what do you think does the business owner have the right to do whatever they want. In this case giving what's going on and giving that there are people who are charged with protecting the health of other people in the area so by declaring it an orange zone. Do they have the right. Do you think to do that. And then keep in. Mind to. Folks that tucker. Carlson is feeding fox. News viewers spiked political content. This is what he does. That's his job. He's trying to gin up the emotions of a lot of viewers in generate views his show and and we get that we get. But so you've you've got the business owner here you know that's out there and he's actually getting up a lot of drama you know. He's got people protesting in front of his business. He's out there cranking it up. He's telling everybody that he's defying doing here. You can't do this to me but the one thing that they're not really telling you folks is that he's making a lot of money doing it too. He's got a gofundme. Page out here when i looked at it. So what he's doing is actually working if if his intent is to kind of get out there on tv and he heard him in the clip. Say thank you for bringing the cameras out here again because all of this is working. He's got this gofundme page. And just before a cut the segment he had raised eighty four thousand two hundred seventy four dollars raised of a half a million dollar goal. And that's not the only gofundme page out there. I found this other one. That's out there as well. And this one is just entitled max public house and it has raised before i went on this segment. Three thousand three hundred dollars and the goal for that one is ten thousand dollars so i don't know it sounds like a lot of people are are making money. You know with tucker carlson pushing this. You've got the the max public house now. They're up to what eat almost eight thousand probably by now so is where is the reality in all of this and do you think that firstly do you think that the city of new york has the right to actually say get. These businesses should shut down. And you've got a situation here where the guy is making eighty eight thousand dollars out of making a big dramatic shout of this. So do you think that the the question here is. Do you think that the bar owner is monetize. Ing this situation this plight. That he's in and i'd be kinda curious to see what you think and leave some comments in the youtube comments section. I'd like to see what you think about this. Because on one hand you want to feel sorry for them but on the other hand he's jenning up a lot of drama he's getting up. Tv time thanks for bringing the cameras out here. He's got a gofundme page making money. So do you think thanks for tuning in and let me know in if you liked the show. don't forget to subscribe. Thanks for listening to the rest of culture. Podcast you can find us on. Itunes stitcher you to been pandora too.

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SWEETLUCK'S "AS LONG THE FEELINGS ARE MUTUAL"

Antonio B Jackson Presents Sweetluck's "Bar Fights"

21:40 min | Last week

SWEETLUCK'S "AS LONG THE FEELINGS ARE MUTUAL"

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How to Avoid Death by Powerpoint in Your Webinar and In-Person Presentations with Dr. Echo Rivera | GBP067

GradBlogger

48:19 min | 6 months ago

How to Avoid Death by Powerpoint in Your Webinar and In-Person Presentations with Dr. Echo Rivera | GBP067

"Number sixty seven of the grab logger podcast. It's the podcast we're helping academics chains of world through online business revenue by giving you the tools and tips strategies, the you need to build online business research experience around your expertise and around the chain. You WanNa. Make in the world. I'm your host. Dr Chris Clone Ian Days I'm very excited to be talking about how to avoid death by powerpoint in your. Webinar in person presentations. We have a very special guest on to do that. Dr Echo Rivera from ECHO RIVERA DOT COM, that's E. C., H., o., R., V., e., R. A. Dot Com. Echo thank you for coming on the ground blogger podcast. So happy to be here Chris, thank you so I. Go has a community psychology. She has over fourteen years experience in research evaluation this field. And more importantly for this episode he has over a decade helping academics, evaluators and scientists learn techniques for planning and designing and delivering effective presentations. Just a little personal note, a personal story to kind of get into this interview, actually found echo I, think back in two, thousand, sixteen, hundred and seventeen, what I was sort of getting start online came across her website and was very impressed with the visual branding elements. That are site had oh. Thank you yeah. He had like these little kennedy marriage like something like. The border elements you had then fed through every page and then fed through like the products, and it was just also cohesive. Refreshing to see that you talk me into buying one of your product, so I bought a slack. Yes, that's right I remember that. A superstar I use that for. My. Committee, meetings have committee meeting like every month every two months during the tours to my degree, and I did on a echo rivera design slide deck nowadays. Gate. So in this episode we're talking about this death by powerpoint. How to effectively design and planning on your presentations where you're through echoes business journey. What she does at ECHO RIVERA DOT COM. What is the death by powerpoint and how to prevent it I wanNA. Talk through her slide based communication framework as well which I found really helpful so. ECHO, a good spot to jump in is. Can you take us back in your journey? How did you started in the the online space? Yeah, happy to talk about my journey, so I started back in two thousand sixteen, and it was a side hustle that I was doing at the time. I was working fulltime. An evaluator at a nonprofit research center. and. I just. My passion has been with helping academics and researchers and evaluators communicate their work in more creative in visual ways and I just really wanted to. Start helping people with that so during my weekends and my evenings. Started blogging I just started. Writing Different blog post in drawing some comics for the blog posts and creating resources, and just whatever I can think of to help. Academics and researchers create better presentations, so that's that's the very beginning and it just kind of exploded very fast, and within six months still a side hustle I launched my first online course called blast off to stellar slides, so those kind of the beginning. That's the nutshell I'm happy to. Say More about it. But yeah, that's the that's the start. I want to jump through some of that actually, but maybe you know to give the kind of full scope. That was sixteen just. Where's Your Business at today? In terms of what you do for academics and helping people with presentations and effective communication? Yeah, so. Did the side-hustle route for about I would say one and a half years, and it was just going really well I. I was just really loving it so i. quit my job. And I did that two years ago, so I've been doing my business full time for about two years, my partner joined me and he helps out, so we are. We are now a company of two, not very big, but now we have two more courses, so I have three online courses. Another one is on the way. I've expanded my services, so I do professional development training through webinars and in person workshops whenever those happen again. And we also do design work for people, so we will create infographics, comics, data visualizations we do report design things like that. Basically, if it falls under the umbrella of creative research communications, we will do it, either through having an online course, you can take through coaching calls through. Trainings or we'll just do it for you. I love it, so you have the three courses on services side you training in person workshops. The also do source of design work data visualization. Thing the stuff that folks like myself that are as creative. Really struggle with the foot together. Yeah Yeah exactly I love it, so yeah, let's let's dig into your. Business Journal's I think they'll be interesting for the audience. I would say that we I think probably in late two thousand sixteen, as part of maybe the self-employed PhD group were recalls back then I think we were right I. Don't remember. That, so embarrassed to admit, but I just feel like it's been such a learn so fast I. Actually I don't. I can't remember this blastoff, the sole stellar slides and planning sort in the phase of planning on selling that course. And Yeah. I'm excited to see that your full time after a couple of years doing it excited, see your partners on board. We've had a couple folks on recently in the podcast that were around that time we had A. Doctor Katie Lender on backing episode sixty four, we had Kaelin fos back in fifty six and Higest Justo Sarah Langworthy. All with PHD's at the end of her name's, but it gets. Gill gets along if you put doctor from everyone. But yes, really cool time to see everyone growing and developing their businesses from. Whatever avenue they're taking side hustles to to quitting their job to. Going and going all in and not doing it as a side also going fulltime like like I did back in the day. Is really exciting time so what? What kind of charges came up for you in that transition SORTA through from? Your side Hustle to going fulltime to where you're today. Oh! Yeah Challenges for the transition. I would say the biggest one was. Anxiety over income and stability, you know going from a regular paycheck to going to self employed. That anxiety was it was a big challenge and. It isn't necessarily as something. I've gotten completely over even a couple years later, but it's something I can. I can live with now and I just sort of. It that that's just sort of. The way it goes when you're self employed, and you know as a lot of people are finding out even when you have a paycheck. That doesn't necessarily mean you're going to have another one or you know things are going to be stable, so a lot of things are unstable. But, at least I'm happy with what I'm doing. And I absolutely love when I'm doing single day, so you know it all kind of worked out in the end, but. I would say that's the biggest struggle I had with the transition from. Full, time employed two full-time self employed. That's got to say. Is there any you know you mentioned? There is this Zion, and now we know that having a full time position isn't actually stable, as may have once seemed. Yeah, are there are some benefits Garner going out on your own and working through this Oh tons of benefits? Oh, absolutely grocery shopping on right. This exactly that is exactly one and I live in Denver and yeah, it's very crowded on the weekends, especially for nature activities, coming for hikes and things like that so being able to go for a bike grade or go for a walk. Tuesday at eleven am when not as many people out there? That's been amazing. And the best part is I am in full control over what I do, and what I don't do so. That was a hard part of working at a research center was. The expectation this requirement of working on projects that didn't necessarily fit my values or Just just an interest me. But now I basically only work on what matches my values. What actually interests me, and I just have so much control over? The projects they take on my schedule. Kinds of things, so that's that that makes it worth it to have any anxiety about. About you know income streams in that kind of thing like it just makes it all worth it for me. I Love I like sharing that park there is. There are a lot of benefits I. Mean I I've. Today's actually the day we're recording is the first day my son has gone to daycare in. Three and a half months. so He's been home with me a lot. That wouldn't have been possible if I was working my previous job or the type employment roles that I would have been doing so to get to spend that time of has been really amazing and. The team running you know every. We actually wrapped up hours across the board for everyone on our team. It's create a stable employment or stable income for myself, but also it's able to create stability for my team members and other other folks as well which is kind of interesting byproduct. So I, want rollback. You meant to something like when you were getting started on this continent sized. We said you're creating content here. Doing I remember these comics. You're doing this kind of cool the blog posts. Capitulate a listener. That's kind of thinking on this and they've just started a website or blog. Maybe it's even their own name and they there's like what do I put on there? He any tips or you know what went through your head for creating material, though is helpful for people and and and sharing that. Yeah, so lucky I was sort of lucky. Because by the time I decided to create a website in create a blog. I should already done some training on this noticed at conferences I would do. Either a conference presentation or A workshop at a conference presentations. In I had just helped people within my network. How help them create better presentations or I would also just watching other people's presentations and sort of critique them. I was sitting there. Silently in my head. And, so based on all that experience I kind of knew. The big struggles people had and the biggest myths that people believed about how to create better presentations in an academic context, so I started there. You know so I would say myth. Busting is the easiest place to start especially if you know some of those common patterns that you've seen across settings across. Across people than start there and once you have a few blog posts in and you start to see people's reactions. They're going to ask you more questions. And then when you start to notice a pattern with those questions, it will inspire more blog posts and more things to write. I love that way of going about it because it's better than just. Continually putting stuff out there and not really relating to your your audience, I called a customer insights Soviet some insight about your audience. Right about the missed. They believe it right about the. Problems that they identify with and I know we've as academics. We've all seen a ton of bad presentation. So I'm sure you have a very effective arsenal of things to write about. It was it was pretty easy. I'll be honest. Love the Miss Busting side of it, too. That's an interesting one because everyone loves a myth, I mean you just look no further than the mythbusters to? Popular, I can be so if you put myth of your blog posts to probably increase your viewership by at least fifteen percent. Probably. Yeah, definitely worked for me and I still do it I still I still talk about myths all the time it's it's an excellent starting point, and sometimes you have to start there because. People believe these myths and you. You can't get them to create better presentations until. They stop believing those myths so. In a way for me, it was like I didn't really have too many options anyway, because it was like we had to talk about this I anyway so that they could be ready to learn about effective presentation. Strategies Extol sense to be in my sort of pre show. Research is just kind of cruising through your website at Echo Rivera dot com. And you had at the top navigation bar the center for stellar slides. Again you should, you should check out echoes website. The branding is very good and even the. I don't know how somebody could go through his website and not want to click on the center for Stellar. Slides with rockets beside it. So I was obviously obviously clicked it. And got taken through some of the trading. That's here and it's really good. I mean the videos are good. The you get to see some of the comics. Can you walk us through? What is that that area website? What could people expect to see there? Yeah, so? Another challenge I've had with. Running my company creative research, communications is. We do more than presentations we do in for graphics, Comex data visualizations, and that kind of thing but presentation. That is the main thing that I do. So. I created sort of the sister website center for Stellar Slides, so people could go to just all the presentation online courses that I have and everything is part of a series. And I just want to make it clear to people that no matter which program you take from me, you will create stellar slides, so it's all part of the stellar slides. Idea the stellar slides. Continuum. Let's kind of why I made it sort of a separate site and it explains that and then explains sort of progression to go through so I have a free course. Start there see if you like my training style, do you? Do you like what I have to say? Do you like the presentations? You're seeing me deliver to you. You know that sort of stuff one and then step two is then you can take one of the formal professional development training courses, and you have two options there sort of the short quickstart course that's. With stellar slides. And then there's the full comprehensive program which is blast off to stellar slides. That's the first course that I made so. Because it is the same name for all of them. Some people are sort of like wait. What's the difference and that kind of thing? So that's why there's. This website and it explains that it sort of explains how they all work together. What the differences are you know? The order I recommend you go in. And that kind of thing so in relation to this the topic that we have allied today and I used to the point of doing a topic on. Presentations and generals that with everything going on the world today things are. Shutdown there's more virtual meetings I. get more virtual summit emails in a week than I can probably count on both hands. Everyone online is doing virtual i. Commented in a overlaps Calypso's whether or not I think getting into that space is the right thing neuro now, and and for some audiences toll is. Other, ICES might be getting. Tired of it but. Video and presentation that are here to stay there. Know really poor mode of communication so I want you to walk through. What is how do you present and communicate effectively in this medium and I want to touch on your point of this list death by powerpoint I know you've said that probably probably since we first started talking to us and in sixteen, but can you put some definition around this? What is death by powerpoint? And then we'll kind of go into. How okay? How do we actually avoid that if that's what we want to do? Yes, okay love to talk about death by powerpoint. powerpoint is the standard ways of presenting that we all hate yet. Can't seem to escape. It just feels like it's everywhere. It's it's the text heavy slides. It's the slides that are just read to the audience. It's slides where the main visual or the only visual is just the template design. Presentations where it's just fact, after fact after facts with no narrative, no metaphors analogies no audience engagement. You know nothing. Interesting to help us understand and contextualized those facts. It's basically presentations that are boring, overwhelming and confusing. And this matters because death by powerpoint presentations decreased the likelihood that your audience is going to pay attention to you understand what you say. Remember what you say and use your information, so we all kind of joke about it. If you search the Hashtag death by powerpoint on twitter, right, it's like a common joke and I laugh about it, too, but it has very negative consequences for people understanding and using our information, so we actually do need to prevent death by powerpoint. We really really can't let this continue. I was going to say it sounds like if you add up all the presentations together, this is a real drain in our society. Yeah! We've been there at I. Mean you're sitting in the presentation you look over? And there's guy third-row watching his phone or you know half asleep, and then there's a girl in the four throat checking. Checking instagram's like the they look around and nobody's paying attention to the presentation. Because like you said you know text heavy, no visuals I'd call those like. We're probably GONNA. Get into some else, but I call those service levels. Then there's like more things like okay well. You have a ton of facts, but are you engaging your audience, are you? Inviting them to be involved either by. By getting up and doing an activity that's one way to do it or even by in their heads, saying yes, to questions or not questions or self sorting in their mind while they're gonNA presentation, those are like. Higher level effectiveness, and so I signed up for the free course in the center for stellar slides. Because again, the branding is too good I couldn't say no to it. Going through one of the first things I noticed was this. Slide based communication framework which I think covers some of these things probably more than I just described it, but I started look at, and then I was like Oh, well, this is the thing I kinda WanNa. Go within this episode walking through this framework getting idea. What's there so that people can start to think more in these? Deeper terms. Let's let's not great descriptive word for presentations, but It works actually. Yeah, it is those deeper things. Yeah, can you walk us through this? What is the slice communication framework? Then what are the different elements of it? Yeah, so so the slide based communication framework came when I was creating blast off to stellar slides. Actually I think it came even before that when I was testing out my ideas in conference workshops and I just. I had been figuring things out on my own for over a decade like I've been trying to make good presentations for like ten years. And I was finally ready to train others and I had to. Come up with a way to explain how to approach this. Because a big problem I noticed was that people focus on the surface level things just like you said that was a perfect word for this. They focus on. Okay Echo I. WanNa make better presentations. What template should use? I'm like no. You know they'll be like okay, okay. Can you give me some quick tips and tricks and hacks and so I could do some good slide design and I'm like no. No that's that's surface level. We need to start with the deeper level. So I created this framework as a way to try to communicate that idea to people, and it's a pyramid, and there's layers and the first layer. The the bottom of the pyramid is your content. It's your story board. It's you know. How much information are you trying to cram into a presentation you know. How have you organized it? Is that actually easy to follow? Do you even know your own key points? Because a lot of presenters don't start by typing information on their slides without taking that step back and storyboarding their presentation K., so that's the foundation because as I say over and over again, no amount of slide design can make up for bad content. SO THAT'S I. Once, you have a good content or story board then you can look to basic things. And make sure your declutter. Guides and only things that actually need to be. There are there non you can worry about how to design your text on a design graphics, whether it's photos or shapes icons right then it makes sense to. You know work on your data visualization because you have a good story board. Your slides aren't full of clutter. You have good texts and other graphics. Okay, so then you move into data visualization, and then there's animations at the top that just kind of connects everything together, and it's presented in this way to show that every single layer is important in a single presentation. Because that's another thing people do, they will only focus on data, viz because data is a hot topic right now. Really cool grass, look really cool, but yet if you ignore all those other layers. By the time you get to your beautiful graph, people are gone. They're not paying attention. They're confused. They're bored. They're overwhelmed. Your data is in you know connecting with them, so you have to worry about every single layer at once, and that sounds scarier I. What? It really is a lot easier than you think, but it's just like helpful to have that visual there so that you always remember you know to apply at least some aspect of each layer. While! You were talking I pulled up my standard operating procedure how to create a Webinar because I. Kind of math in my head, so I do sort of same thing where the very first step is collecting stotts, facts, stories supporting formation just in a big google sheet, and then sort of moving it around into the outlines. That'd be like the story boarding. It and then the middle steps for you know you're matching around. Sign of the slides thing going for graphics and data visualization at the reason. I pulled up this because. I wanted to see what I wrote here. I don't know about other people if they do this, but I used to. Always when I create new press station I create this title slide and I spend like an hour on the title slide, messing around with it and then and then I'd always change at the end. I fish presentation and I could do it again. I read Necessa the third step is to create the slide deck and the first thing I say is don't muck around the title slot. That's the last thing to do. Yes. I know other people who get stuck on the titles to I actually do it last I treat it like my abstract like when would write an abstract? I don't know about anybody else here, but. I would do it last for manuscript or an executive summary in the evaluation world like I didn't do that I. Did that after the report was done I, do I do the same with my title slide? I love the audiences interest because I have the same thing. I put step five then up. Creating slide deck is to finalize the title slide step one is get the template together. Don't touch the. Less Commission marks. For people interested in this. We'll put together in the show notes that Grobbelaar dot com slash sixty seven. We'll put as a cheat in view and kind of get an idea of how I. Create these webinars structure. I've used and I think we've shared that before. On the PODCAST I encourage you also go to echoes website, which this stuff's all on stellar slides dot com and look at the. Map that on as well. Dive into some of these elements so. I kind of question I have. Is You know do I? Should I be using and the maybe hate this question? I don't know, but should I be using this kind of fancy software like Presi, or you know what? Can we say powerpoint is I mean we shouldn't be using powerpoint what you'd be Kinda using presentations so I actually have like I. Don't know it's like a twenty minute video on this because I do also a youtube channel and so I'll I'll tell the answer, but if people are like what I do not believe her. Watch my video. The answer is use powerpoint. POWERPOINT is the best. The! President. You Know I. Don't recommend it. Some people use. That was cool for like six months back in two thousand fifteen. And say listen to video, too. But I used present for like two or three years I loved Presi so I have like a men's to make I apologize to everybody because I was one of those. Early adopters like believe it or not, Chris. They like actually came out. I think two thousand twelve, because that's when I was using it and I was like president. The best is awesome. I didn't I didn't make people dizzy so I wasn't spinning around, so don't worry about that, but but yeah I say this as someone who used it for years. Don't use Presi don't just don't don't take the time. I just remember being in the corporate world, and it's sort of hit like across the board. All of once at every if you're sea level, fewer, CEO, or coo or something you one. They never knew how to make their presentation, so they get their terry or whoever to help, but they all just across the board across all the companies switched to once, and it was dizzying trying to follow what was going on, and then it was out of vogue in six nine months areas back powerpoint. Good Yeah, yeah, I I. Luckily don't get too many people who are invested in switching present anymore because it is kind of people, people know by now that it's. It just makes people dizzy, but. There's new things like that all the time. I don't even remember all the names like canvas is the wine that promotes themselves as a a place. You can create presentations absolutely not. Do not use canvas for presentations. Please for the love of coffee. Just. I would say over Canada. And then you know Goo Google slides. Is it has some problems? I still recommend powerpoint over Google slides I also use apple keynote for about fourteen years. I was actually very anti powerpoint during that time. But now powerpoint has surpassed keynote, so I'll just kind of leave it at that. Because again, go through this. It's like a twenty twenty five minute video. Go into detail about why I'm saying all of these things which is trust me. POWERPOINT is amazing, and it is absolutely the best and death by powerpoint. I think we need to remember that. Slight applications are a tool. That's it. And Death by powerpoint. Presentations are not caused by the tool. There caused with the way we use the tool external science, so I wanNA, die, we talked about some of the technology probably more than even we even showed up. But I wanted to. I think I brought it on. I was reminiscent. Vote my corporate days. But only some elements on this framework, so in terms of the content, the storyboarding the story telling aspects like if someone just saying okay well. I don't really know how to do that. What would you tell them how they get to figuring that part out for the presentations? So. I helped. Nobody is annoyed with my answer to this, but I will say take my course. Because I literally go through how? Each of these layers in my course and it's it's. It's one of those things that get a lot of people want like like. Go quick tip like a two cents. Tips on how to improve things, but you know we kind of need to take a step back, and it takes longer to explain what to do so I go through it all in the collapse, okay? Can Use lease with like a starting point or something. Give give the audience something to be able to hang their hat on their listening this upset. I would say. You have to figure out what your key points are like. What do you want the audience to walk away with? Ask yourself that question because a lot of people don't. I also do have eight another video on workflow for presentation design, and that includes a couple couple ideas about how to get started to, and it pretty much boils down to that like what are your actual key points I love and guess I'll come back to this. Since I have it open now that I wanna find this. Don't mess around with your title. Slide the first step by I sorta research. is to write down exactly like you said funny. Enough step one created research outlines right down your audiences right down the outcome you want for them. that. I'd say ads box. Information's list is like where he start collecting your stories. Your stats your facts. You're supporting information just collecting that up and don't really try to put a structure to a toy have. Done the research phase then it's the reason I like to use the Google sheets for that. Is then you kind of drag and drop and copy all the. Pieces in different orders and try to arrange at then in this skeletal framework where he just have you know your your three to five top ideas, usually will five minutes of flesh show to a top level ideas, fifty presentation, maybe three and a half now. Maybe you can get five in, but that's. That's kind of jam packed full, and that adding sub bullet points so. Another thing I used to do a lot was. I would always create a for like thirty time slot. I create a forty five minute presentation that have to trim it back. You don't do that plan up front, so you you. You know you only have enough ideas enough topics to fill that. I feel like I must have done a podcast on this. Actually I'll look that up at some point. But doing job in some of these other elements and so. Have things around the content generation. Just putting your your skeleton together putting your your presentation flow together. What are we? What should we think about on these higher level aspects of the framework, so things like Info, graphic information and graphic design data visualization animations in know. How can those be used to dive into? Away from the surface level more the deeper things that you were talking about earlier in the interview. So that depends a little bit on. Things. Like how much time do you have? What your presentation? Currently looks like the things like that, so the way teaches sort of. Options like you learn the framework you learn options you learn. Sort of like level one design. Okay, if you if you don't have time if your slides are. Crammed with tax than focus on reducing the amount of text on your slides, and you know just just start there like just getting text off your slides. so that's an everybody struggles with that so everybody. Listening to this podcast I can assure you. You have too many words on a single slide, so that is step one is start getting that texts offer slides. And then, and then from there it's about building, adding shapes and icons and photos. If you're doing data visualizations. Ever stop with the default settings. You have to customize those. You have to use design. And you know maybe even some animations to walk people through your data, a Lotta people will just have a graph on their slide, and then they spend five minutes just like talking about it and nothing is changing nothing moving. You know you have to walk people through it. Gets a great tip it's. It is really helpful to highlight the key areas or even. Frustrating. How seen this if people only? If you're going by thing one thing at time on each slide and not letting people ever. Get ahead of you, but I find. It's also helpful. If you really want, emphasize something then to walk people through. It's almost. Sometimes they use a process where if I really want to emphasize something force people to stay with me through the material, but then other parts suppressed nation will be more free flowing. We're actually talk. Show the whole slide. Say and then walk people through it, but if you really WANNA, emphasize appointing kind of hold, people back only show. I'm trying not to say show bullet points. No, you don't WanNa. Use ballpoints. Say it anyway, but showed the bullet points that are you know leading them through the the story that you're trying to tell at those points trying to emphasize? How are they going a couple? Other aspects around this, so we have things around storyboarding coming up their content ideas. We have things around. Data visualization the the framing the discussion points. What are some things for engagement with your eyes? We sort of talked about that. Earlier we service levels were deeper things and I think really that is the. Hidden key if you WanNa, if you WANNA really WANNA up your game. Than getting buy in from the audience game, saying their heads you. Yes, that's me or no, that's not me or you know or actually getting into. I don't really do thing I. Get people to go up and stand up switch chairs and stuff I find that a little bit hokey should be able to do a little more elegantly buffet and get people to buy into your presentation. Get more engaged. You have any thoughts on how people should be structuring that if they're just kind of getting used this way presenting so I would say when you create your presentation, and you have your first draft. Do An audit before. Engagement, and you should be engaging with your audience at least every three to seven minutes. Let's that's usually what I strive for. So you have to just do something with them so. It could be you. Just ask a question. You don't even wait for them to answer. You just are wanting them to answer in their heads. I think that was an example you had to, so that's like you can do that a lot because you're not actually stopping the presentation, but I do that by saying things like I. Don't know about anybody else, but bylabatry Blah Blah this is my experience. What about you you know and I just kind of like? That's one example. Or even just. Using action words the sometimes I will say think about the last time you did so and so right and by telling them those words think about they will, they will start thinking about it, so it engages their brain, so you can do simple things like that. You can do polling just a simple raise. Raise your hand if You can ask multiple choice questions for polls. You can do open ended questions and those work really well for webinars and in person presentations. And then just actual activities. Maybe you create a handout and they have to fill out a sheet. I. Don't feel like you know. The thing is is that I'm guessing? Everybody in this podcast has has done these things, and so these probably the most. Exciting or shocking? Things, but yes, there are definitely more elaborate. Do, but you know sometimes the simple ones are. They're just the most practical their sustainable. They're easy in their quick, and they work really well, so go back to the ones you've done before. The simple and practical ones really do work, and if you feel like they haven't been working than just go and do that audit and see how often you're doing it because if you do one, and then you wait thirty minutes to do the other one, you might have lost people by that, and that's why it feels like it's not working, so maybe just add in more frequency to it. Do it more often and then maybe switch it up. Do A poll doing open ended question, then do just multiple choice. You know so. If you kind of add variety, do it more often. You might start seeing the results that you've been wanting now. I love that I like the idea of doing the casement audits sort of once you're done your deck, and on your idea of how to present this. Look through and say well. What points buys listening to this? would be engaging interacting. You mentioned a couple of Qa's like asking questions. Have you ever had this problem or You know. League, mass like really simple questions like the hard time getting to the venue this morning. If there's some complicated thing that you told some complicated route yet, take from the hotel to get to the venue or And then you do more active things like polling and getting people involved. If you ever presenting the more than? Fifty. People save representing one hundred people. You can always ask somebody of a birthday this week. If you want to lighten things up very small, chance of you're presenting to one hundred to two hundred people that somebody doesn't have a birthday that week. I was only fifty weeks a year That's the kind of a nice way to break the ice. You WanNa you WANNA. Do that at a at an event where you don't have a lot of other people doing similar things. Otherwise you ever had the second person asks if somebody's had birthdays week than you really lame. But if you're the only person you can. We talked about this whole process of of prepping getting ready, I think sort of close owed around off this. Interview. What's the process you recommend re people for like practicing the presentation or getting ready to deliver you know and engage with people at the event. Yeah, so that's actually a video. I have to. So I'll definitely send you. These links I have a forest steppe. Or for for type practice, so the first type is when you're actually working on your slides. While you're typing out your notes, you should be speaking them, and that is the easiest way to incorporate practice into your presentation because the reason. Presentation, sound, awkward or people sound like robots is because it's the first or second time. They've actually said the words out loud. So how many of you listening to this podcast? HAVE QUOTE UNQUOTE? Practice your presentation by reading it in your head. Like I've done it. I know a lot of people who do it. Is going to say you just use that. Ask a question that everybody says yes to in their head thing. If! You're listening to this and you went. Yes, that's me then. That's exactly what we're talking, vote. engaging communication. I didn't mean to cut you off good. No, that's okay so. I tried to make that my habit. I didn't even know I was doing that. But you know I'm always thinking of the audience like that's kind of what it is like I'm just always thinking of them so thinking of you. But. Yeah, so if you're just reading it in your head, that is now practice. Sorry to break the bad news to you, but that does not count as practice. You have to say the words out loud. That's when you catch. Sentences that sound like were meant to just be left in Manuscript K.. So while you're typing or script talk out loud, and it could be a whisper whisper, and it's really weird at first. Yes, I promise you. You'RE GONNA feel super awkward, but you'll get used to it, and it is the best and easiest way to have a good script from the start. That's less editing in the future. Your script already sounds more like verbal speech rather than something meant for manuscript manuscript. So! You do that and then the second type. Is you start practicing in chunks, so just actually go into presenter view and I'll click through my slides, and I might do that for just a few slides just to make sure you know. The timing works animations work. Everything is all working together. I have a second monitor which helps me do this. So you just kind of do it in like chunks basically. And then and I have a worksheet that I use for this part which I have made available for free download it. Information is with the video that describes all of this visuals to show you what I'm talking about. But then you get a worksheet and you actually time yourself section by section. And then after you do that, and you feel really good about it, then you can do the full dress rehearsal, and the reason why I go through all of this and again I even made a video about this. Because a lot of people only do the full dress rehearsal and I don't recommend that I recommend doing those first three. Making, those your habit and sometimes you don't even need to do a full dress rehearsal because of the other ways of practicing so again if you're like La that. Echo problem is like with the visuals in the video and the handout kind makes more sense, and if it's together, but encourage you to give that a try, and at least hear me out on like see how I do that because it's a way to practice without it feeling, it takes a lot of time. It's just like part of your presentation design process so. So, it's more built in and you're like. Oh, I practiced cool I. Love It. You know just going through the process. Speaking Aloud while you're writing aside notes while you're doing it at least place at least then you're allowed at least once. He probably should be doing it more than that, but then it sounds like a normal person, said it, not some robot. Or hopefully can check for that doing it in chunks and measuring the chunks. That's really helpful. If you get to the end and you're like I don't know. I'm five minutes over. What am I going to do? You know at the most. The nicest feeling thing is ever just deleting chunkier presentation. It's kind of nerve wracking his. You're like all that has to be there once. You realize that Oh. Yeah, it doesn't actually have to be there. I control this and he's like deleted that you feel great, and then by the by the time you're actually doing your full dress rehearsal, then you. You're at a stage where? A know your content and you're on your way to delivering a great presentation. Okay really cool, so if the audiences interested in learning more about you like I mentioned. Echoes site just. For the branding elements, it's pretty engaging. It makes me say yes in my head a lot, which is why click through a number of times and I had shelter for the podcast before that anyway, but you want check that out at ECHO RIVERA DOT com. That's E. C. H.. O. R. I. B. E. R. A. dot com an ECHO. Somebody wants to reach ot you? Over sending more of your courses for the free content that you mentioned one. We're GONNA. Get some of the videos now we'll get echo through and we'll put those in the Charlotte set. Crab like cops I. Sixty seven, but real to you to find more boy. You're doing. Where's the best place link? Find yet? I'm very active on twitter. So that is a very easy an informal way to connect with me I'm at Echo Echo are. On twitter you can also find me on linked in Mich. just go Rivera PhD. Think search my name. You'll find me. A Lot Echo Rivera's author. There's not. So. I should show up. So those are in terms of using social media to reach out to me. Those are the best and fastest. Please do not contact me on my facebook page. I never checked that so. Same for Insta-, and then on my website there is a contact form you can use and that goes to. My inbox does not go to spam, so that works as well so between those you. You can totally find me and. I think those are the best awesome. I appreciate taking the time to come on the PODCAST. Appreciate gang chance to catch up. There had been a little wall SINC- last talked. But a? To get a chance to talk again, so thanks for coming on and hopefully get you back on the podcast in the future as well happy to be here. Thanks for having me. Thanks have a great day. You too bye-bye, so you've been listening to myself. Dr Chris Clooney Dr Echo Rivera from ECHO RIVERA DOT COM and we'll be talking about how to avoid death by powerpoint. powerpoint in your Webinar. In person presentations, we went through some echoes back story I'm actually start online with a really was a side Hustle back in two thousand sixteen on built into a fulltime online business, a couple of years later with courses and services that she's been delivering. We talked the whole process a bit, and where businesses out today and we talked about challenges things around. Anxiety of going full. In terms of financial requirements terms of putting yourself out there. We talked about content creation. He has some really good tips around pretender myth buster, and you know identify the missle. Your audience has get those insights about your audience and none address those. That's GONNA. Make for engaging content that people will reply back to looking for more answers from you and Kinda. Put you as the. Authority in space, which is really what she's done for for presenting. then we got into this whole concept of death by powerpoint. We gave it sort of a definition. Everyone knows the feeling I'm sure of what this is, but it helps to kind of go through and some of those elements are. We talked about different levels surface level difficulties like too much text, just reading through slides, and then more detail things like make sure you have some engage in points. Points in there make sure you're having the honest answer. Some questions in their head. Then we gave some. You know different ways you can do that. We talk through her slide. Based communication framework the different elements there, and that sort of helps you get deeper into planning understanding your your presentation and we talked to her things around practicing while so we had a four step framework for practioner presentation. Presentation giving rate to deliver it and we also talked about things like tools and apparently powerpoint. Has It all which is good to know because I know that's why a lot of people are using their presentations these days as well. Thank you if you're interested in material and definitely checkout echo web links to her websites at grab bar dot Com size sixty seven. I found the previous episode I did. Did on creating a Webinar presentation. That's up so forty three the podcast. It's how to create a a Webinar presentation. We'll actually pull the cheat their. That has my my sap. My standard operating procedure creating webinar include as a Chichi download for this episode. As well we'll have all of ECHO's contact information links to those videos and stuff that were able to capture and sent through there as well so. A safe week ahead. If you really enjoyed this episode tag, Myself Grab Blogger on instagram or twitter. Tag Echo, and I believe her handle is echoed. Are I think that's probably a play on the word. Echo I guess, but often ask her ext time. We're chatting and yes less goes. Asks any questions there and look forward to bring you more great guests helping me build your online business as an academic in this world in making the change that you want to see.

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We've also learned some universal truths about management. Those who worked behind the scenes deserve more credit. Your relationship with your boss really matters and people are looking for empathy not just answers and with that were welcoming. Today's guests for our show on new chapters. Bruce feiler is the author of life is in the transitions. Mastering change at any age bruce. Thanks so much for coming on the show my pleasure thank you to both of you for inviting me. Said people tend to make transitions too quickly or too slowly. My answer to that question is the transitions take longer than you expect right so for some people it might feel quick and for some people i would say the default is for. Most people feels longer than they expect. I got into this project as you know. Because i was going through this experience now that i call it a life quake right which is one of these moment when life seems to be coming at you. From all directions at these aftershocks. That last for years and these can be times of renewal and growth. So i think as we get into this conversation today about how people manage. The work transitions in their lives. Kind of framing thought that i would have is that these are common and these are important times when we can not just look at the next job but use them as an opportunity to kind of rethink and reimagined revise the stories that we tell about our lives and our work lives in particular. It seems like you're talking about transitions that are thrust upon us rather than those we choose. Is there a difference in how you handle one versus the other. What's interesting about this. Is that the stages of what it means to go through. A transition are the same. The tools for how you navigate these transitions are the same but the mindset that we have. That's what changes depending on whether it's voluntary or involuntary there's a perception. I think that young people make transitions a little bit easier. That they're not encumbered. Did you research find that to be true. Or is that a misconception. I think that that's pretty accurate. Actually and i was a little surprised by this. The larger sort of idea that i stumbled into the in the course of working on this book is that how we look at our lives as really affected by how we look at the world. Okay i actually spent the weekend reading a book. About frederick winslow taylor. And of course he invented the idea of scientific management a century ago and this was built around the idea that you could have a system and you could everything move forward and it kind of followed the conveyor belt the assembly line. And that's how people looked at lives in the twentieth century for those of us who are older back to your original question. We're still haunted by the ghost of linear. Already this expectation that our lives are gonna follow kind of straight upward trajectory. The millennials and the gen z. That are coming behind them. They're growing up with this idea that you're going to have twelve point seven jobs and eleven point two moves and they are more embracing of it great first letter. Yeah dear h. b. r. I'm a forty nine year old project manager. That's ancient in my industry tech thrived with a youthful appearance in spirit. I often use my experience to mentor younger. Employees and bridge generational gaps. However i was recently lecco. The ceo told everyone the week before the layoffs that covid nineteen would actually help grow our business model but then fifty people out of five hundred were laid off. Most of us were over forty years old so i paid to have my resume updated. I pimped my linked in profile. I'm volunteering as a project manager with equality groups and i took online courses to hone my interview skills great references. I reached out to my network but after spending three months looking for a new job. I'm discouraged the number of applicants. Many of the lincoln jobs are between five hundred and one thousand. It's nearly impossible to stand out with millions of unemployed people in the united states. I'm resigned to the fact that i probably won't work for a year. Luckily i have the resources to do this. But actually love working. And i wanna job. Here's the conundrum. I have dual citizenship with a country. That's weathered covid. Nineteen much better than the united states. I can get a challenging job. That pays better almost instantly. It wouldn't be my first pick to move overseas. I checked that box in my thirties. And i wanna build my community and move towards retirement here. My worry is that. I be closing the door on working in the. Us again my question. Should i stay or should i go abroad. My initial reaction that i am impressed by the census that this gentleman is taking on his life. You know in life. Quakes at their heart are meaning vacuums when the kind of basic building blocks that give us identity are sucked out of our lives so anybody thinking about making a change is a richer and more fulfilling experience to ask these larger question. How do i want to spend my time. What's important to me where i want to live what happens in times of transitions is that we rebalanced maybe been working hard. We want to spend more time with our family. Maybe we've been a caretaker or caring for aging relatives when we want to give back we give back and we've burned out and we want to do something for ourselves so the first thing that strikes me about this letter is that in. His transition. Gentleman is spending time volunteering as a project manager in the equality space and it's possible that this person may be a good candidate given the age issue that he raises for a shape shift. Maybe he wants to devote himself more to giving back and even says they could go overseas and perhaps make more money but that's not the lifestyle that he wants so for me. The first thing that jumps to mind is maybe what a way to solve. This problem is to take your skills and go work at a nonprofit. Perhaps he makes less money but presi has more meaning in his life. That's the first thing. I do wonder though i mean the problem. He's having as that all of the jobs that he's implying them. We don't know whether those are for prophets not excetera. He just can't get through the door because there are so many unemployed people now on paper. Though he has a lot of experience he might not look as attractive because of his age and cost sue. How does he break through to any employer whether it's in the public or private sector that gets to the sort of the essence of what it is to change careers at this moment which has to do with kind of the narrative of his career. Right so writing. A resume isn't really be active saying what jobs you had. It's an act of constructing story about how your past experience relates to what you want to do now and this person was extremely good at that like the way he talks about his job right. He's good at balancing between the generations. Right he has a lot of experience. He's level headed when sometimes the younger workers around him may be more emotional so i think he's got a great story to tell the problem that he's having is that nobody wants to listen to this story. If you go back to the essence of kind of what. I have found in my years of talking to people about how they spend their time. Is that the idea of a linear your life and in this case your career. That idea is better than it's ever been so he's worried that by going abroad. He may hamper his future career aspects his future career opportunities. Because it will he'll be off the track in some way but there is no track anymore so the idea that i think has gone away forever is the fact that you need to be tethered to a certain geography to do a job. So i think that's something he should also consider. Can he do this role that he's looking at from the us. If that's where he really wants to stay can he brought in his search there. Many companies that are now committing to a work from home workforce and even a work from anywhere. I was impressed by how open he was moving overseas. He says it's not his first pick but his he's very much open to the possibility given a choice between instantly getting a good job overseas or potentially being unemployed and unhappy for a year. That's looking like a really good opportunity to me Bruce what do you think. I i love what both of you have said. And i think that there is a convergence among the three of us here that breaking out of a routine looking at working remotely looking at trying something else for a while looking at at at alternative ways of thinking about your career. I think that's what the three of us are agreeing on here. So to me what i hear in this written question. I don't need to work right now for the money but i like working k. I like having this opportunity to be a mentor to the younger people. I like the idea of being cross cultural. And then there's another phrase in here that jumps out at me. Which is i want to work toward my retirement here. This is someone who's both thinking back and thinking forward and he seems to me that the answer is within the question that he's more interested in lifestyle move at this point then in a career move. That's defined exclusively by money or progress or the next line on the resume. I think that he's done some of the right things we would counsel people to do if they were intending to. Just get the same job that they'd had before. But i think i would encourage him to get more creative without outreach effort. Do you have anyone in your network. Who's not a direct connection but a friend of a friend who's working for an interesting company you know maybe some of the people that you've been working with these equality groups have different connections. That will lead you to new exciting organizations that you hadn't previously thought about so i would just encourage this letter writer to think out of the box a little bit. And that's such a cliche but be open. As you're suggesting bruce you know and then tap the resources that are going to help you find those concrete opportunities outside this narrow frame that you're looking. Oh that's quite smart sedan. What's our advice. I were impressed. By how many of the things. This letter writer has done have been the right things. Updating his resume taking courses volunteering reaching out to his network we think he needs to think more broadly beyond the same kind of job in the same industry that he had before might be a nonprofit conduct job. It might be something a little bit more cause oriented. We think he needs to think about the narrative and the story of his career in less linear fashion in terms of the option to move overseas. None of the three of us were wildly in favor of it. He doesn't sound like he'd like the lifestyle of moving overseas and he's at a point in his career where lifestyle is more important than finances or linear career projections. At a certain point. It might be a better option than continuing to be unemployed in the united states. If that's not helping him emotionally. But none of us would pursue that opportunity to quickly. We think he should play things out in the united states before going overseas. 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It's hard enough to create something new. The board is making it even more difficult. I'm someone who likes structure and clear direction to get me started. But i don't want to have to constantly check in. how do i navigate. This ambiguity should go to a place where i'll have more control even if it means taking a pay cut and maybe a demotion well two things jump out of this question to me. The first is the emphasis on ambiguity and the second is the emphasis on identity. And so you just quickly address these one at a time. This person is clearly uncomfortable with ambiguity. Right i feel lost ambiguously beauity. I'm someone who likes structure indirection. Everything is new and being built from the ground up but the thing. I felt that was strange about that is that she also doesn't like having this hierarchy of the board telling her what to do struck me as dissonant. Well what to me struck me as dissonant is you've gone to work at a government startup like the nature of it is ambiguity like this is something new. It is opportunity to create something from the very outset. She's got this incredible opportunity. Because if you look at one of the most important tools for going through a transition kind she's talking about is that you don't go through it alone okay. That is the most dangerous thing so it seems to me that the answer. That's right before us. Especially since there's this common enemy in the board used to sit with coworkers. And i know you guys talk about difficult conversations all the time but have a conversation of. How can we work together. Nothing makes that easier than a common enemy and then go to the board and say we need to create new habits for how you're going to be able to be informed but we're going to have the freedom to build and do what we need to be focusing on. I think that's a great point. The idea that even if there's ambiguity and lack of structure she's going into this with a trusting relationship and with a familiar boss and she and her boss who've been successful in the past are going to partner up to figure out the ambiguity and to sort of gain back the control that they need. So i i agree with you completely. Bruce the idea of looking at this not as sort of a lone individual challenge. But she's joining a team. Which is going to take on this challenge together that will give her some comfort and some confidence in it. I would hope. I am encouraged by the fact that she's clearly jazzed about the fact that they're creating something new and if anything she's upset that there is this extra level of management that she didn't expect her worry that she's not suited to a start up. You know that this isn't the right kind of organization for her is really overblown. She has all the hallmarks of someone. Who should be in an entrepreneurial place you know. She takes ownership. She wants to be creative. She enjoys teamwork and collaboration. So i think your advice both of you is spot on you know. I don't know what the equivalent of a ceo at a government agency is but if it's her boss you know that's a conversation that he should be having with the directors to clarify roles and responsibilities and she can help him do that and suggested but it's certainly not on all on her shoulders. I think this idea of startup government agency is very interesting phrase and it's not entirely clear to me what it means but it suggested that the people who are involved in adventure like this and the board itself are probably people who also like structure. Because they're in a government agency right so this is not a total kind of start up from the ground up where there is a lot of risk. It suggests that the risk is somewhat mitigated which suggests to me that she's going to be surrounded with people who like her are trying to find a balance between structure and incomplete innovation and. I'm curious dan what you think of this phrase at the end of this. Which is that the alternative she suggesting is a pay cut in a demotion and the way she that clearly suggests she doesn't want to move in that direction she clearly. It's the teams to me. Wants this to work out. Yeah agree with you. And i think you're right that the phrase government startup is just inherently weird and maybe. She's a little bit too focused on the idea that this is a start up. She might want to think a little bit more about the fact that this is a government agency. Government agencies are a little bit more slow moving. I'm so maybe reframing the way she thinks about the organization she's joining will help her deal with the bureaucracy a little bit better. I think you're totally right. Dan it has to be a mindset shift right. she thought to herself going into the startup. And it's just going to be my team and my boss. And i doing everything we want. But the context is working within a large government agency filled by managers for used to having much more oversight. You know they're not vc's sort of putting in the money and then hoping that it pans out offering bit of advice along the way these are people who are used to having control and so they're trying to exercise that control and she's pushing against it and saying wait. But i don't understand you know so it's going to be tough for a while and it will be awkward in there will be a lot of difficult conversations and hopefully her boss can have some of them but she's gonna have to learn how to do it to an artfully say. You know i would love to keep you informed on this. Let's figure out a way for us to do it so that you don't slow us down. I think that's exactly right. And i want to just add one more thought from the earlier conversation that we had and that is a reminder that life is not linear and careers are not linear or non linear and they take all sorts of shapes and follow all sorts of paths and trajectories. And the reason i bring that up is failure doesn't seem to be vat dire situation here. This is a government agency. So if this doesn't work she's not likely to be thrown out on the street with no future. She's likely to have a boss is still going to advocate for her and teammates and perhaps they're going onto a different next project that they will start together. So i i think i hear us all saying the same thing. There's a lot of ingredients for success here but just some awkwardness and up it. A messy middle involved in getting to the other side of what can be a great opportunity. Still bre she's worried about. The ambiguity of the new role doesn't the ambiguity create opportunity once she settles in. I think that's a really perceptive question that i think that she can benefit from asking part of me wants to say just give it some time in the middle of it. It's supposed to be messy. They're going to be difficult stages and phases and moment in the process. Give it time the kinds of feelings that you are experiencing now and the kinds of skills that you're developing now. I want to say to this letter. Writer are likely to benefit you in the years ahead because once you have stepped out of the familiar in the safe odds are you're not gonna want to go back to it so if you look at this as a breeding ground training ground for important life skills i mean the one of the ways i think about life transitions is that this is a life long skill that no one's teaching us how to play. You are now playing in this space. If i can use that somewhat glib word but the skills that you were learning whatever you do next are gonna make you better at whatever jobs. Come along or you seek out in the future. Learning to master transitions are essential life skill. And you're getting better at it. Even this question shows the growth great alison. What's our summary. So we want to assure this letter writer that she is in a perfectly normal situation. This is the messy middle of transitioning to the start up by. Its very nature. It's going to be ambiguous. The hierarchy will seem unclear. We would encourage her to talk to her boss and coworkers about the situation. We think that you know more senior manager should be having conversation with. The director is about the type of relationship they should have and how much oversight they can give without slowing the startup down. We want to reframe her expectations. About what this organization is yes. It's a start up but it's also operating within a government agency and it might operate that way at times. We think that her worries about not being suited for a start up and suggestion that she should give it up our way too premature. We think that she seems very entrepreneurial and engaged These are just some tough things that she'll need to work through while building this new organization dear. Hdr i'm currently working for a large private equity fund and a team that works with portfolio companies. Recently i got an opportunity to work closely with our investment group. I found their work very interesting. I wanna pivot my career in that direction. I discussed it with the hr department. They suggested that the move is possible without any further interview assessments. Susman's as long as there's buy in from senior leadership. I began preparing myself from a technical perspective with some on the job training doing work that the investment team does. But i'm worried about bring this up with my boss. I only joined the team a year ago. This manager has invested in my development. And i now oversee a large part of the portfolio which allows him to focus on other objectives. I worry that asking him about a move would make him resentful. He'd have to start all over and hire someone to replace me. He's never been unreasonable. But if he's not supportive it could hurt my standing with him and with the team. I also worry my request could be met with a. You're still new year role. Maybe let's discuss it in a year. So how can i stick to a time line. I enjoy what i'm currently doing. But i don't wanna lose time either. What did i do. You asked a question at the outset of this conversation about my observation that yes those of us. Fifty plus are haunted by the ghost of the narrative we are resistant to change the millennials and the gender xeres that are coming behind them are more embracing of change. They get the idea of a nominee. They know they're not going to have one job. When relationship when spirituality when sexuality whatever it is they know that there's going to be a lot more change and that is wonderful in many ways but there is a massive downside to it. Which is that. Sometimes they seek out change sooner than it should come and earlier then really is warranted and that is just dripping from this letter. So that's my reaction guys now is said i was born in nineteen sixty four so nominally. I'm a baby boomer. You sound like you are extra so if you want to shoot back at me fire away. I mean i've normally the first to say you know. Hey you need to spend some time paying your dues before you think that you can get a promotion but this doesn't really seem like a promotion to me. It seems like he's involved in one aspect of his firm a private equity fund working with portfolio companies. But it wouldn't be that strange. Sure him to shift to the investment group bringing along the knowledge that he has about how portfolio companies work. I the hurdle he's facing here is the fact that he's a key employees for his boss and so i'd love to see him. Focus on trying to solve that problem so that he can make the suggestion without leaving his boston alert. You know. are there other people on his team. Who could be deputies to him. Apprentices to him people who could really prep so that he goes to his boss. Not with a problem but with a solution. Dan a split. This tie share my first reaction to this letter is dude. You know you've only been there a year. I think the team might manage a little bit more than he expects. They would not to suggest that this wouldn't create a little bit of pain and some dislocation but it may be it's not The end of the world as far as the boss is concerned and may be approaching it with a mindset that hey maybe this isn't a gigantic deal would help the conversation but i think bruce in our letter radar are right to acknowledge the concerns that he is job. Hopping you know. And this won't be well received by his current team. I mean dan if you hired someone a year ago and they said oh. Hey i'd like to move to the book publishing team or corporate learning or are higher. Ed department after you've invested the time and trading them and bringing them in too key projects that would be frustrating. You know he has to definitely go in understanding that it will create headaches for the boss interesting. We seem to have our first kind of disagreement. here. I'm one of the things that is a key tenant of the idea of a narrative life and the narrative career. Is that if you tell the story and you retell it as we talked about earlier. You're going to find out the answer yourself so that you were going to make the decision about what you think is right and to me the way i hear this letter. This person is saying i want to move but i'm worried that my boss thinks it's too early and i'm reluctant to do it. This person seems to know in some way that there is a big risk here in doing it so whatever the outcome perhaps if we can agree on anything it is that the next move is to talk to the boss and rather than assume it. That seems to be a commonality here. Yeah i think. I would approach even as more of a men t you know. I spent some time working on the with this group. I really enjoyed that work. If i were to think about making a transition to that team how would you suggest go about doing it. Who should i talk to basically boost the bosses ego a little bit in order to get him on your side. Always better to ask for advice than to ask for a favor. Yeah and i think our letter writer is in a really great position because a lot of the people that we hear from wanting to make transitions can't do it within their own organization. And if you think about the kinds of advice that hdr gives to employers if you can find a way to help. This person moved to the area of the business where he'd like to be. That's good for the company. And i definitely don't see it as an example of job hopping when i look at resumes if somebody's had a few positions within the same company i think that's a great thing because it suggests promote ability suggests a track record of progress and success. It gets to the story and narrative element. Bruce has been talking about high see movement within a company as a good story. That's an essential point into the earlier question. You asked me about transitions. Being voluntary or involuntary. This is voluntary transition. You haven't lost a job get. Your company has not been shut down. Your industry has not been hamstrung by an economic change or pandemic or some systemic evolution in the economy. You're in a great position. So the worst case scenario is you gotta sit tight for a while but that is the luxury of voluntary transition. You can slide the win a little bit sedan. What are we telling him. I we think he's perceptive in recognizing that there's a risk to this conversation. This could create problems for the boss. Who's been good for him. We think the next step here is very clear. He needs to talk to the boss. Go into with an attitude of listening of not mind reading. This is not a conversation where the right ten or is. I want to move over there next month. It's much more about asking for advice from a mentor. If you were me what would you be doing to try to get over there. You know what kind of timeframe and process might be reasonable. How could i manage this. So that it's not disruptive to my current team attack this as something that you're going to embrace together you know. This is an internal move in a perfect world. This is going to be a good thing for our letter writer and a good thing for the company term. We think he should recognize that he's got a good boss and that's worth something. More time in the situation with a supportive mentor is gonna be a good thing for him so as he thinks about the timeframe here. Don't be impatient turf bruce. Thanks so much for being on the show. My pleasure thank you. That's bruce feiler. He's the author of life is in the transitions. Thanks to all listeners. In all of our episodes who wrote in with your questions without you. We couldn't do the show and we're grateful and please stay in touch. Let us know how you like the show. By sending an email to dear biard at hp r. dot org with might not be able to answer everyone but we will read them all to hear more about deer each new chapter. Please go to your podcast app and subscribe. We'll update you there. I'm dan mcginn. And i'm alison beard. Thanks for listening to deer. H

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Presenting Remotely In The Age Of Covid19

"In the welcome to accelerate your business growth with your host. Diane Helbig Diana's a leading small Business Development and leadership coach author and speaker who is passionate about sharing valuable ideas tips and techniques with business professionals worldwide. Diane brings you the world's experts and in all things business whether it's sales structure social media planning or plateauing guests bring their expertise and energy to each episode when growing Your Business is your focus accelerate. Your Business growth is the show to listen to got a topic or guests suggestion. Let Diane No. The goal is to make sure you have the information. You need to move your business forward. Thanks for joining us. Settle in and enjoy. Hi everybody thanks for joining me for another special episode of Accelerate Your Business Growth today. I'm joined by Debbie Fe of basic presentations to talk about presenting remotely in the age of Covert Nineteen Debbie phase founder and Speaker of Basic Presentation Solutions Providing High Stakes Presentation Development Public Speaking coaching and presentations training to businesses worldwide. These speaks clients include Pfizer. The Hay Group. Us Fund for UNICEF New York City Economic Development Corporation tout world discovery. Saad were different products and many others an award winning trainer and teacher with a lifelong involvement in theatre. Debbie helps her client present themselves with confidence conviction and clarity delivering presentations to get hurt and get results. Debbie is a sought after speaker and contributing author to Forbes DOT COM and the huffington. Post her book. Nail it creating deliver presentations that connect compel and convince held by Turkish reviews as compassionate positive encouragement for speakers who need to improve. Their Games is available from Amazon and other book retailers and in the interest of full disclosure. Debbie's also my sister. Thanks for joining me today. Debbie thank for having this you know we are in strange times and this is For me I think a huge topic as people trying to figure out how to overcome some of the challenges of now suddenly working remotely. You know it's like a whole new world so I I'm wondering if you would talk a bit about how presenting remotely is different from presenting. Lives right well. First of all Presenting remotely has the technical challenges as you can imagine People get a little nervous especially the first or second or third time. They're doing it because not sure they can be heard. They're not sure they can be seen. Which means you should get on the the presentation fifteen minutes earlier to make sure everything's working the way you want it to do just as you would get to the site of a presentation earlier so the key thing that. I that I have deduced is. It's really different about presenting remotely versus presenting live. Is that if you're presenting remotely and you need to use visual aids to accompany you as most of doing business presentations. Typically you're using powerpoint or keynote or Presi in order to help make your point in order to to explain what it is. You're talking about to persuade your audience. When we've done that live traditionally. We may know that our slides aren't terrific. We may know that they're really not an aid for the audience. They're really more of a crutch for us as presenters. But we've let it go because if were good enough at presenting. We can overcome bad visuals folks because we're lives and so the audience can ignore the screen behind us and just pay attention to us or the audience. As you've told me in the past that you do when you're seeing a presentation that requires a lot of reading. You read this slide first and then pay attention to the speaker well if Speaker Yep if the speaker is just in a little box down at the bottom right hand corner of your screen or in some cases. You can't see the speaker at all. You're just looking at the slides. The speaker really has no No well certainly has no physical world to play because you can't see them and even if you can see them in there in the tiny little box in the right hand corner. They're playing a tiny little little role at the bottom of your screen and the right hand corner and now your slides and taking center stage and because of that it Nell be. Who's you to take a big deep breath and and and recreate slides? That actually will be a visual aid for your audience and not cue cards for you. Wow that's huge as making me new. I have to go back and reduce videos so okay. Sorry it's okay. You got a time exactly the good rating. That's the good news all the time. We spent driving to work all the time. We spent quite frankly getting professional closing on on days. We're GONNA sit in our officer or in our cubicle. All of that time is now hours. And that's time that you really really really should be spending on editing. Your powerpoint decks or your keynote presentations. You need to look at them and say to yourself. Okay I've known forever that these really weren't optimal and now I. I can't let this go any longer because I can tell you that you present virtually and your slide are bullets with tons and tons of taxed. Your audience is absolutely positively going to read it and then go back to what they were doing and if you have to download the presentation ahead of time and so they can read it ahead of time. They're not even in a show up or if it's mandatory to show up. They're going to have it on their screens so the think they're there but they're not gonna be there because there's no reason for them to be there because you are superfluous. You are not added anything to what your slides are telling them right. So so. The solution to this is as follows. You need to create slides or visuals. If you're in keynote or pretty. Your visual cannot be self explanatory. Every one of your visuals should have what I call the Factor the audience should see slide and think They should not be able to understand the slide without you to explain it and even more than that or coupled with that you should be feeding them this information that they cannot make sense of on their own one piece at a time and that's why God invented animation with powerpoint so that you can feed it to them one bite at a time so that people don't get overwhelmed so that we know that they're looking at what we want them to be looking at so that if you're so for example let's say that you now have to Do Training about About about A website or you're a bank right and you're going to be doing training for virtual colors or your virtual customer support and these are New People coming on board. And they don't know how the screens work and you're going to teach them how these screens work my advice when you share your screen rather than sharing screen actually for education purposes. I would do screen shots of the screen and put a circle around the part of the screen that you want them to be looking at. You know when you're talking about here's the field where you enter the customer's name. You put a circle around that field so it really draws their attention to what you so you're and you're in control of that then that's exactly right. Yeah that's interesting and by the way everything that we're talking about holds true when you are delivering a live presentation. You should still be delivering a live presentation using these tests. But when you're doing virtually it it just becomes exponentially more critical that you you follow these these rules that I'm talking about or or use these tools that I'm suggesting because if you do that a couple of things will happen number one. You'll have an audience riveted. They're not going anywhere. 'cause they can't figure out what's on the screen and they need you to explain it to them. That's the first thing the second thing is if you if you build the visuals in a way that you know they're looking at what you are talking about because you're using animation to build a bite at a time or you're putting circles around things or squares around things that you know you need them to be looking at now. You have an audience. That's not getting overwhelmed or confused. And by the way it right now in our lives there so much uncertainty. There's so much fear that when we do get to present to a group the last thing we want to do his layer on all that and using them right we can find a place for an hour or fifty minutes where we can provide education or or comfort or Frankly even convinced someone that what we're proposing is a good idea for them and that's a gift right. 'cause IT's clarity in a sea of uncertainty. That's exactly right Ed. Exactly right and there are absolutely people in your audience. Diane who are in field where they can help. They can offer a status right now but they need to be able to do it in a way. That is really clear to your point because there's so much noise going on in all of our heads so I have a question about that given Is there value in a a remote presentation being shorter? So so maybe it's broken up into three segments so you don't overwhelm somebody or does it not matter. Well it depends on what it? Is You want to be sure you have a beginning a middle and an end. I'm we know that that twenty minutes is an ideal attention span. There's been a bunch of research about that My Presentation Guru company M Sixty two. Which is it's an international company is headquartered in Liverpool England the owner and CEO co owner and CEO of that company. Making take dude research when she was in her twenties about audience retention attention the super interesting and she found out that twenty to twenty five minutes is audience. Max however using things like speaking for twenty minutes and then opening it up for questions or asking questions of your audience you can then string those twenty twenty five minutes together three times for a total Max. Total of ninety minutes at which point you have to stop. There's a hard stop so that's something to keep in mind. I I truly believe that that yes. We're going to continue with this uncertainty. But for a lot of us we're going to we're going to do what what scientists have been telling us to do and we're going to then get some clear-headed space where we're going to be able to think again. Yeah right and so I mean I'm finding myself this. I'm able to really have some a big blocks of time with an ability to think a clear thought so you know this happens at all different levels for different people. A friend who was thinking clearly a week ago two weeks ago so good for him my point is that I believe increasingly people are going to want to be able to get back to business because if nothing else. It's a distraction from. Yeah Ovid nineteen so so there's nothing wrong. With little bites of information people then may want more so giving them the opportunity to get more would be a good thing as well. Yeah well that makes sense they can. They can have a choice. They can be short bite and then once they've digested the short bite. It's like you know when you go to the mall. And they're offering you a taste of a cinnabon they don't give you a whole cinnabon because a it's too much and B. If you don't like it that's a waste whereas if you have a little bite maybe you love it and you WanNa buy more or maybe a little bite and say you know that was good but let me think about it right then you can come back and have another little bite and one of the things I really like about. This is that it's thinking about the audience. What deigning from the slides as opposed to what you need to keep you on track or whatever reason you have for creating the way you currently. That's exactly right exactly right and by the way so you bring up such an important point. I'm going to tag onto that number one while it was never excusable in my humble opinion to have slides of rows and rows of bullets because its audience abuse. But but aside from that it right. You thought you needed it because you needed your own speaker note. Now that you're presenting virtually there's nothing to stop you from having speaker note 'cause you can have them at your desk or at your dining room table wherever while you're giving this presentation especially if you're giving a presentation where the audience doesn't need to see you if you were slides that are dynamic enough. The audience really. I mean it's a bonus to see you. It really is people like to see people especially when it's Ni- right when we're all presenting remotely. We need that connection so I would recommend that even if you're down in a little box and left hand in the right hand corner that you can be seen. That's really great. That's terrific you can still have not what I don't want your listeners. To do is create a script for themselves. I am begging your listeners not to create a script because we are not play right. We are not screenwriters. We don't know how to write the way we talk right. That's we don't they words like thus typically right is an honestly to me. I just went. And that's the way people talk the minute you start reading you sort of put the audience to sleep okay. That's not such a bad idea right now because I can pretty much guarantee people aren't sleeping. Well we did before the pandemic but that's really not your goal in a presentation right so you WanNa be dynamic and and I realize I'm talking non stop. Forgive me but the other thing I would like for your listeners to do when they're giving a virtual presentation is to put if they can to put their camera or your laptop to the camera in it elevated so it's at I level and if you can speak somewhere where you can stand up while you're speaking. Yeah I can you recently. It makes a huge difference in how you present. Yup I. I recommend I do high-stakes interviews interviewing prepped interview. Coaching and I always always tell my clients a practicing the interview. They should practice standing up. Be There's remote interviews all the time now phone interview now. The rights teleconference interviews. They should be standing for so. This is hilarious. I've been practicing more remote presentations that are going to have the video component. Because up till now when I've done remote presentation that I've been doing it for years we didn't you. We didn't use video. Just use the powerpoint screen. Well now we're going to start using video and I figured out. This is hilarious that if I put my laptop on my box old wine in the kitchen where to God by my lab boxer white desperate times call for deathbeds rights. Perfect eye level. When I'm standing up how you gonNA drink your warning while I'm not gonna be drinking wine just jagged just making sure. I'm not that desperate. We've not gotten to that point yet. I'm Abbey today Larry at this although although you know people are having remote happy hours kind of thing that people need that that's great. Yes but it's and it's got and where we're where my box wine is is right the low a window and that's another great thing about if ideally we lighting right. This is not I mean. Let me just ask your listeners. If they can avoid it they really do not want to be presenting from their basement. Because unless you you have professional lighting down there you look like you're presenting in your basement right and it's just not a good luck. Yeah so if you can if you have a laptop then you have the luxury of of moving it anywhere you want in your home and if you can get somewhere where you have lighting coming in that's ideal you can go online and Youtube ideal Virtual presenting and they'll tell you you might have a side light back like I'm not sure all that is necessary but good thought lighting makes a big difference. Standing makes a big difference. Because if you're somebody like you and me who use our hands when we're talking easier to use your hands into my hand right now. I'm sitting but it really is easier to do that when you're standing exactly right and I think what I've learned over time. Is that having light behind. You isn't necessarily great if you don't have light in front of you. Yes it was just weird. Yeah right and you really want to avoid so the thing over the years that I've seen of course everybody's getting better at it right now. We're all learning in real time so everybody should keep that in mind. Take a deep breath but let's face it ninety percent of the emails I saw not emas. I'm sorry virtual presidents. They thought before a couple months people a lot of the time look like serial killers in their base. Here they are. You know the God. I hope not looking looking off camera and it's all dark behind them. I just think oh my gosh I would just click out of it because it was too scary. You know my mind was going crazy so if you can do those simple things get your get your camera. I level get good lighting in front of you. Stand if you can if you can't get yourself in a chair where you can sit on the front half of the chair. Not An office here. That's going to allow you to slouch back into it. Yeah Yeah I think and also one other thing one little thing. I just thought somebody doing this this morning. On like linked in or something can't get yourself a decent distance from the camera because the camera picks up whatever is closest to it. And so if you're just a less than a foot away from the camera suddenly you look like you're all know it's distorted it. Looks like what is that? What is that thing about? Where the dog that commercial where the dogs just like looks like he's all knows it. You know it's like you kind of see people on ring works. That really derive view right yet right. That's just the way cameron. It's sort of hard though because I would 'cause I've been doing a lot of videos lately and what I would says you have to get used to the idea of pressing. The start button amend backing up. And now you have to edit the beginning you just have to cluttering. Yeah 'cause otherwise you you're too close and then you're like right. It's all you in the screen riches. It's like your head not you and your body and it's not right. I think though if you're doing if you're doing powerpoint if you begin you can do it before everybody gets their where you shared your screen. And it's on powerpoint and they're seeing you and if you have a clicker the other thing right. That's why God invented Amazon Right if you can get a clicker then you can change your already. There they come on. And then you can click through your slides remotely. You know what I'm saying you're using you're using. I want to say that I do WANNA I love it if you're if you're If you're taping it that's a great. That is a great tip that I hadn't even thought of. It's just edit out the beginning. That's really brilliant If you can't do that because you're presenting live and people are there live. I think people are going to be understanding about. Maybe seeing your head for a second while you put it in screen Screen share. Or you put it in. Slide share slot. What is it called Slide show I want your. I don't want your listeners stretching out about that where I I think. That's a really good point. Well speaking of stressing out so if people are going to be in front of their camera Talking me some about late like I get this whole. Make sure you're not in your basement. Make sure you have lighting and things. Are there other things that they should be doing to make sure they're looking their best? Yeah okay so first of all And this goes for live presentations as well. Right when when when we're on the other side of this and people presented in their offices. My goal is this is GONNA up everybody's game it's GonNa up. These tips are GONNA up your presentation game so while some of them are specific you are talking about two presenting remotely. Others of these are good presentation practice. So don't let these go when you get back in a conference room live in front of real people in the same building in the same room so you WanNa be wearing something. That is not distracting. You for women do not wear statement jewelry. You just don't want to be doing it. You don't WanNa be wearing big earing big necklaces. Those are fine if your this is your statement piece in your office and everybody loves that about you but when you are on a remote presentation and you're giving it to outside your office. That's not the time when you want people noticing your jewelry and not your message. Yeah that that that's one thing the other thing is and the great thing about virtual presenting. If you're going to be seen is that you can see yourself and you can see what your hair looks like. You can see what your makeup looks like. I'm really talking about women right now because there's so many opportunities for us to to get it wrong for example. We can think that the red lipstick that we've been wearing is the latest thing and it might be but if it's to read the light it it could be completely washing out and looking bizarre right though. So yeah so you really want to be sure that you're you're less is more when it comes to make up when it comes to jewelry particularly by the way if you are giving a presentation where you're not. GonNa have visuals where it is just GonNa be you if you're the president of a company and you're not speaking to your employees even in a meeting. Let's talk about virtual meetings if it's internal and they know that you're somebody that wears its jewelry. Okay but if if now you're speaking to your to your clients 'cause you're reassuring them you're getting on video meeting with them and you're not gonNA use powerpoint because this is the time when they need to see you. They need to see your calm. They need to see that. You have a plan going forward all that stuff. You don't need visuals for that right. So that's just you and if you're doing that they should be focused on you and so you WanNa be in the most undistracted thing clothing that you can be an along those lines. So you're let's go that way for minute you're going to give a presentation to your clients because you want to reassure them about the process that you process you put in place for the coming days weeks months it man or woman. I would recommend that you dress professionally dressed as though you were going to see them onsite. Okay what are you so tell me why? What would you say it does for the audience? I think it's reassuring. Okay now once you get into. Let's go have weekly meetings with your clients going forward in weekly meetings. If that's something that you're going to do or weekly updates which I would call a still a presentation as this goes on. You could certainly be. I would gradually bring it down right. Be In a in a In the next step down so I don't know what industry you're in if you're in if you're a landscape architect you don't wear suits normally resona time to ramp it up to a suit right. Okay right so maybe you go to your clients in a button down at the cotton button down and you've got the first. Two buttons unbuttoned two weeks from now. You have your virtual medium or presentation. You're in a polo shirt or you're in. You know you have zip up best on so absolutely you can dial it down that first presentation you WanNa be dressed as you would go to a meeting with them on a normal in-person meeting okay. That's what I mean. You don't WANNA be out t shirt because you're working from home and they know you're working from home. Yeah because eventually you could right exactly eventually. I really do think that you know if your kid in and ask the question that should be okay. Because other people's kids are going to be popping in asking questions for the First Time. The second time did your client. They're nervous you just want them to know that you've got it under control. I think that is huge. And that's that's part of that clarity and confidence that when everyone is so uncertain about so many things At especially like employees with now working from home and they're not getting that social interaction and being able to see what's going on over here. Whatever you feel the energy. It's important that people are communicate. Leaders are communicating calmly and confidently and it in a way that engenders confidence call. Yep Yep Yep and peace of mind exactly and what I'm thinking is you know there are silver linings in there always silver linings and one of them can be that if you were a leader that that was thinking yourself you know. I feel like my team doesn't know me. They only see me as this. Even as a servant leader the best kind of leader now there are times when servant leaders have to be more authoritarian. They have to be the captain of the lifeboat. This is one of those times when they need to say look. You can count on me. I've got this covered. I need your help right but I'm on top of this is I think you're saying to a gender peace of mind as the weeks. Go on I think this could be a real opportunity for leaders to share with their teams. A little bit of their whole life they could. Everybody could share their pets. They could share photos of them. You know little videos themselves. How are you cooking dinner right now? If you weren't somebody that was a Kach. I get to humanize themselves. More with their teams old that way so that people and also so that a leader says to eighteen. Look I I know you know you may be struggling particularly those of you. Who are isolated. Let's have a happy hour on Thursdays at five. Let's have a cooking class right on Wednesdays at five for those of you who are good at this. Because 'cause I can tell you that I'm the Cook in my house and boy. Would I like it if somebody could spell me every once in a while? There's all kinds of opportunities in this situation where you're in Ohio. I'm in Connecticut. Were really sheltering in place. Yeah Yeah and and and it is hard on people and at the same time it can be an opportunity well in it is a weird thing for people who are used to working in an office who now suddenly are not. I have a client WHO I. It's a law firm and dirt when the RNC was here their offices in the building right next door to the west and so they were told they had to work from home like they just totally shut down downtown Cleveland. And so they've been through this before where they had to work from home and one of the things he said to me because I reached out. Just make sure you know they were okay and Any and I said listen if you want me to facilitate like a team thing. I'm happy to do it while you guys are gone and he said interestingly sometimes these things can bring people closer even though they're physically farther away which is true so but for people who haven't been through this before you're absolutely right it is unsettling unsold many levels the doing things that are engaging with your team. can can go a long way to improving relationships all the way around. I created a just a really quick free course for remote team-building be very reason. An and these are great ideas that you have they like. I said you could do a five minute. Yoga stretch thing you just everybody hops on or the leader could keep could stay on a google hangout. So that when teaming WanNa pop in and just get some social interaction with their work in their workmates. They can do it. There's a lot of things that that we can do to shorten the distance. I guess what it's really about to create right to create connection. Yeah exactly right right so debbie. I really appreciate this for the listeners. Is there anything we haven't covered that you think is important for them to know? I think to your point I think Which is one of my be speak. `ISMs about audience smoking. I always say turn your attention. One hundred and eighty degrees. Turn Your Focus. One hundred and eighty degrees right now as they're going to be getting opportunities to present virtually and they're putting visuals the first question they should ask you. Do I need virtual for this particular message. Yeah if they don't don't use them. Just get on a video conference with yourself as the message delineate or in that case though I would say sit down brainstorm what it is you wanna say weed out stuff stuff that the irrelevant put it in an organized format practice it out loud then deliberate exactly if you are using visuals. If visuals are important because it's a complicated message. It's a multilayered message. There are visuals. You can use to prove your point. That's great and you should use them. Keeping in mind that you the presenter are there to explain the vigil the visual no visual should ever be self explanatory so again they wanna think about the audience they wanNA create this presentation. They WANNA make sure they edited out. Words that are unnecessary. Concept are unnecessary. They WanNa practice it out loud. They could practice it out loud with a fellow team. Member virtually showed that person experiences it and they experience giving it virtually so by the time they have the real audience in front of them. They are more confident and they know that they've got the pieces right. And my final point Diane would be but once you've done those things you can be absolutely as effective virtually and for a lot of people more effective because they will finally put that big piece in place that they're visuals are now playing the kind of role that they were supposed to be playing tenor justic. One Yup yeah. This is great. I really appreciate you sharing this. I think this is going to call them. A lot of people down is in this. Oh my God what am I going to do and how am I going to do it? but for those people who are not necessarily totally column confident with this. Will you tell them how they can connect with you with your shirt on? My website is www dot b. Speak PRESENTATION PLURAL DOT com. They can get a hold of me at be. Heard at least speak. Presentations DOT com if they google Debbie fe or Google beef speak presentation. I will immediately come up They can follow me on twitter at speak Have A facebook page. Be Speak I confess. I don't I'm not doing enough with that. I should probably do more. The best way to get a hold of me would be probably emailing me At be heard at be speak presentations with an s dot com fabulous. Okay guys you know. We're doing that these special editions with people who really know their stuff. So that you can navigate this strange new world that we are and maybe a little more easily and reach out to these experts. Get the help the in aid if you can go it alone go it alone. I rock on with your bad self but if you can't you still need to be doing these things so reach out to the folks who can help you with this as always continue to prosper and be curious and until we meet again on another episode of Accelerate Your Business Growth. Goodbye and good day.

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Discussing George Floyd & Racism with Debbie G

The Stream of David: Channeled Spiritual Guidance and Law of Attraction Advice

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Discussing George Floyd & Racism with Debbie G

"Welcome to this dream of David on times radio with bestselling author channel and Creator of the Thais spiritual practice. David's trickle shears. The eternal wisdom of the consciousness called the stream. The stream of David Show is fun and informative, and seeks to not only answer all your spiritual and life questions, but to also provide proven tools to navigate life's obstacles, and find a path to joy, clarity and abundance by hearing the streams, no nonsense, direct approach to spirituality prepare to have your mind blown and receive clarity on your life and the universe like he perhaps never have before and now your host David Struggle. I look to the stream of David Show I am here today with my good friend Debbie Hi Debbie. Hey, I'm so excited to be here. And if I sound a little odd, it's because I'm CA- speaking to you through my iphone because my. Home. Studio is having technical difficulties today, so I'm coming to the IPHONE I. Believe Debbie you're actually on the studio after yourself you. Do. Well, that's just given right right. Of course you, do you remember that I do? Much prettier as well. Well, thank you very much. actually I am on the radio and fighting this experience to be quite fun I like this. This is a little bit different than what we're used to. Yeah. We're used to being on video now. We don't have to dress up or anything we can. I can make faces and everything, and and nobody will ever now. No one's going to judge you for how you look just how you sound, and unfortunately I don't sound good today because I'm on this, but it's okay. I guess waiting show must go on the producers. Sometimes they're fantastic and and got through, and you know at the last minute, and it's funny because five minutes before I, usually you know pop on. All of a sudden lawn people show up a day early. They're out there. Cutting grass, blowing leave doing all that stuff I have a soundproof, somewhat soundproof studio setup, and not that soundproofing the right outside your window, so I was thinking okay with everything going on in the world. This is certainly nothing to complain about ory about. life is pretty good when you can sit in your home in Palm Springs, and then you know, call it into your radio show. About that? I WANNA. Talk about what's going on in the world. You and I can have a little conversation around it and the second segment we can bring the stream then, and you can ask them We can kind of continue what we don't Saturday. For those of you that watched on Youtube and facebook, we had a live. Our third live reset summit with a stream and Debbie co-host bat. And, they came through. We talked quite a bit. amongst ourselves with the stream regarding. Racism regarding the they're the protests that are going on right now. The riots that are going on right now. The conversation shifted a little bit from pandemic to that because it's certainly a topic handle. He's the United States and that I've spoke to several people outside the United States, and of course that's world news right now, but the chaos. That's going on in this country so. Into that a little bit and I kind of let you start with your thoughts on kind of picking up where we left off on Saturday. Your thoughts on what you're seeing, and then what's going on and just your perspective to get the ball rolling here? Yeah. We really got some stuff going on here in the United States. We've got a lot of people focused on. They're just angry. You see a lot of people that are just angry and. What I would like to do is continue on the path that the stream always takes this down, and that is what I'm. Looking for appreciation, and what is happening, and even though I know, that might sound so. Off The wall here, just bear with us. Maybe, this is a time for us to do this differently. Know, all of this violence and anger has never worked before, so why not consider that there may be another way to do this? And if all of us could go into the space of looking at what is possible, looking how this reset, which is what the summit was on Saturday, and what I do, believe truly that we are in, and I agree with you David on that one hundred percent. This reset is the time. To See. What can you do? Not, what's happening? Not what you can't do, but truly looking at what you can't do. Understanding that we've all came here to experience. This life as she would be. So. How can we just put together as human beings and do it from a space of appreciation and I'm to I can't wait to talk to the stream similar today about. How we can appreciate even some of the things that are the the harshest Presi. Exactly and. Using the term appreciation, a lot of it takes a deeper dive into the strings teachings to really get into. Appreciation means because one thing that we learned from them, is that? There's contracts on all topics. There's positive, negative and everything man. Of course the negative is happening now. Beyond. The murder of George Floyd! Of course that was a negative events that took place. But the protests, the the riots saluting all of these things which are separate things, but all of these things. Can Be viewed positively or negatively. The the negative is is that property is being destroyed. Things are being stolen and people are being hurt. The positive is is that it is highlighting the racial inequality in our country. And police brutality. And the thing that have been going on for quite some time that were not. Seemingly able to solve. And we're talking about it now more than ever this is. This is heated as I recall. Since Rodney King. and. Romanian and I were talking about Rodney King the other day right after all of this sort of transpiring and thirty years ago. And there were there were mass riots and things like this after that and it brought about. It moves the needle a little bit I think, but obviously didn't solve the problem. Because here we are thirty years later still having the same issue and still having the same conversation. Right and it's time to maybe change that conversation. It's maybe time to start looking at what what we can. What can we do rather than fueling? The fire that's already going. You know I haven't yet seen a forest fire that was. That was under control because they were adding more fuel to pouring gasoline on it. Instead they were doing were doing the thing I'd love to do. And looking for the solution water. You know putting water on the flames and and putting them out. You see armies of people pulling together in these situations. When we have national disaster, so think about that when we've had a national disaster. That's a fire. A flood tornado. SCHULMAN's. We pulled together. We pulled together to help. Why is it different for this? Why must it be different for that? So for? Why must we do this this? I don't think we must I think it's maybe time to look at this as bead, the natural disaster of the human being with our with our beautiful polarity, and now we can do something different. We can pull together as humid. It's you know I do believe peace on earth as possible. If we were to all her head straight, get out of our EGO bit. I think anything is possible for sure and you know. The strain talks a lot about contracts and the value of contrast, and they were all here on different paths house. And they're guiding us to appreciate the differences and understand that we're never going to all agree, but that doesn't mean that we can't desire peace and work toward that, because in the working toward peace, we are expanding. So. The way I look at the the riot, negative aspects of this, of course, the peaceful protests. There's very little negative aspect to that, but you know riots, people being beaten streets. You know property being destroyed things being stolen. Among those three things. That Will die down. Just like everything else you know. The attention to that will die down though the the the of anger is happening right now. Justify five or so for many. And I understand that I. Understand it from the perspective of a white man. I cannot understand it from the perspective of of a person of color. I try to which is a good thing. But I haven't lived that experience. Yeah, I'm a gay man I. I have. Definitely experienced discrimination I have had to leave jobs because of the fact that was gay, and then things of that nature, some kind of taste of it, but it's not the thing. I don't walk around walking target based solely on the way that I look and color of my skin. That's a unique experience and. That experience! Build character for many, and that experience actually makes me stronger. But not everyone. There are a lot of people that are continuing continually oppressed because of the color of their skin and. It's definitely part of the contrast of our world. Eventually it will be solved it by knowing their means, and the fact that I think humanity will evolve eventually. Just kind of assimilating. We're seeing signs of that. All over the world. But. Not Fast Enough and it seems like we. We moved the needle and things get better, and it seems like we're. We're seeing more equality. The United States, we elect a black president and reelected black presents the. We had a black president for two terms eight years. And then the reaction of added something very opposite of that and you know people don't like it in spiritual circles when you get overly political and I have to tell you I don't give politics a lot of power in my life. By follow politics and I think he would really have to have your head berries the San. To to not see that there's definitely some racism going on at the highest level, the office in the United States and it sort of fuels the fire nothing else just the the silence around. You know what's going on right now. From the president. It's maddening and so I can't blame anybody that wants to get out and get that anger out. You know we've gone through this period of this pandemic people have lost their jobs. People of have. Gotten. Sick people have lost loved one. We don't know what's going to happen next. There's mass fear. is almost economic uncertainty about what's going to happen next, and then you. You fuel a layer on top of that. Three race related incidents that were Global News, not just national news in a in a week or two weeks. Time you know and I'm sorry. I forget the man's name Georgia that was shot and he'll probably no reason. He was just out jogging a couple of of rednecks. just decided to lynch him. And that's very troubling. And then we have the woman that White Woman Central Park that calls the police. On a black man just because he asked her to put it all, which was the law. And I had a long conversation with some people this morning about that incident in in particular in what you up and down respond look like and how we behave differently in positive vibration negative operation. And then, of course I'll culminated with a the very public killing of George Floyd is easy. Beg for life, so it's all very troubling stuff so the anger. Whatever reaction is happening right now. Is Understandable I agree with you that the the the violence and the looting into destruction doesn't really solve anything highlights, and it brings attention to, but it's not a tool for solving anything in another everyone that dies down and it will. What do we do next? And that's the thing. Does everybody just sort of settled down and go back to business? As usual or do we get the anger out? And then go up our spiral collectively if you will up into higher vibration where solutions are and start talking about real solutions. And that's what I want you know the bit of a platform that I have you know the channel and author and host radio, show and podcast. I want that. You know that that's that's the best. I have to offer with the platform that I've got. UPS figure out how to how to solve these things. From a higher vibrational perspective and it's very easy to say we're going to solve it love. Independent, a lot of people often say things like that. Realities. Higher by Graham approach is what works those of us to understand law attraction university law. We do know that unfortunately most people planet earth bright down off his woo craziness and don't want to hear anything about it, but you and I think people you know. Change their live with these tools that we teach. And and you can change anything if you understand vibration if you understand you know tuning to a certain signal if you understand claiming or personal power. That's really what I want to promote. D tuning fear all of this happened over fear. And lower vibrational, thanking all of it was fear related all of it. So my mission in life for the rest of my life, what's left of it is? Getting. Fear! I think that that's. Exactly the opposite of that is love and love is most powerful creative force in existence and. So. It may sound funny. Come at this from love. I'll tell you what the fear the hates not working and we already know that, so my guess is that my world anyway. In my life that times of my life things have changed our when I do it differently when I make a different choice when I make a different decision and I think that that's what this is headed to. We know this is all going to come to a close that what's next and it is that is the solution based? What can we do and it starts right with you? The person the listener it starts right with me. It stretch right with David. is starts right with us. MAKING THOSE Right decisions for our own existence for our best and highest good. With empathy and compassion and kindness and guess way. Would you have tools like learn entire boot camp and this isn't. Just an infomercial here, but seriously. Would you gather up these tools? What gives you is the the things that you need to build your foundations in your homes in this reality. And it's really important right now. He wants solution. The solution is to start with you. You know I can't very well. I can't very well go to Huntington beach. My favorite talents California. And help with what I saw yesterday with the. Writers and all of that there would be nothing I could do if I were there. Nothing I had it up on my phone. And I said I'm just sitting so much prayer and so much love for to protect. Our officers were out there and. Because it was I and. It really it. It was kind of a bit of heart of heartbreak, and I couldn't do anything and I can start. Right here with me. I've been blessed. To take the CAP. I. You know I'm a graduate of it. It's it's one of these things where these are the tools that you use to go up spiral your emotional spiral to learn how to manage your own existence your own life. With things are out of control. It's because people aren't managing their own existence instead. They're so busy trying to manage someone else's. And, their attentions aren't even in or in order. This is a really great opportunity for people to. Do some self tool self, self, love work, and that's what it will help. You do as well as understand. From a different perspective, many things that you have had experiences in your life that you divas negative. At I say without your dark, you know your spark because I've got a lot of those just like a lot of us do. Differently today I totally viewed differently today David. It's not the same anymore and people have. They can have this in their life thinking they could make this happen for themselves if they would go to. The TYPO can go through something like type camp and they'll say doesn't actually. Hit hit commercial real quick, but it doesn't have to be. I love talking about five boot camp over by the graduate so too. But I wanNA promote something right now on the show that are tools that people can use real. Let's talk about that when we get back to them and we'll bring you the string, but we get back. It'll be Debbie NY, and then we'll bring shrink for you in this moment will be right back. Conscious media for conscious mines on Times. We're experiencing a global reset. Much of the world is living in fear, but I see Taya practitioners thriving in this new reality I see Chhaya overflying in every aspect of my life is truly magnificent were at I, was not self assured and didn't have the self confidence, but now I feel. I really love myself and I know how to enjoy and let go of all these things that held me back from living the beautiful life. I've always dreamed and it's amazing. How rapidly those things start! Showing up on shoe practiced how it changes everything about you, and if it it will affect all other aspects of your life, your house your your career, your money, your relationships and I think that certainly has helped with my anxiety with mental health I, realizing that wait a second I deserve. The best in life was the string of day that dot com forward slash ty to learn more about the Taya mindset practice entire boot camp. We're back here with Debbie. Talking about current events. Talking about. Putting together real tools in our lives right now. To help address this because we can't just sit back and expect somebody else to address it for us, and we certainly can't sit back and wait for politicians to do things I was saying earlier that you can't help but follow politics especially if you're in the United States right now, but I don't get much power over my life. And I haven't in a long time and I found that I can thrive regardless of who the president is, or or who am I congressman is or anything of that nature so I. Don't get a lot of power. But I do get power to is personal vibration building your personal bubble reality? And contributing. From a high vibration perspective to the collective consciousness. That's what really changes things when the collective starts to shift. And I was sharing Debbie earlier. You Know Debbie I'm a gay man. I've been overly gate for a while. And I grew up in the seventies and eighties. You and I are the same age. And I'm sorry. I just your age. That's really okay. Well well, I tell you what you you look amazing for fifty two year old, so you for thirty nine at heartbeat, maybe thirty five but But. Yeah I didn't see a lot of gay people, on TV, when I was a kid when I did, did they were they? Were you know vilify? They were made fun of or evil inside. Three's company you know. Jack tripper was was pretending to be gay, so we can live to women, and it was constantly make fun of so that was when I saw on TV. And Billy. Crystal so you know that was another character. It was never really that was a somewhat positive character but he was always suffering at the hands of somebody's ridicule. The show and it wasn't until the late nineties will and grace came along I started seeing positive gay characters on television, and that shifted the narrative. For Gay People. Because people were becoming more accustomed to it now it seems like everybody. Has Someone openly gay? They're family and that's really shifted things well I think the same thing with race when people are suddenly. Around someone of a different race that perhaps they were prejudice against the past a lot of times that shifts and that changes. So in really is about broadening your perspective having some friends and people that you're really comfortable with. That are not just your race. and. Reunion I. Ever remain a works in the business with me and she's a friend and she's a black woman and. She she the entire first our of our meeting today we listened to her. And there is a perspective out there that as white people. We didn't talking about this. We just need to shut up. Everybody angry protests. Why don't have to do that? Either I can certainly try to make sense for myself, and for other people based on spiritual teachings, which is my field of expertise currently. Of how we can help what we can do. and teaching personal empowerment to everyone. Really bringing everybody to feel their worthiness. Regardless of the color of their skin, and understand that we all create our bubble reality, that fear is very damaging thing on both sides. The situation. With the killing of George Floyd that was fear-driven. And I understand that. So, how do we radically eight that fear? Because fear is very very prevalent across humanity on planet Earth, right, now you know, animals instinctively have a little bit of fear in them to get out of harm's way, and that's what fear was really attentive for us, but somewhere along the line all the way. Somebody decided. Hey, this fear thing spear emotion works really well humans. Let's use it to really control their behavior. And now it's everywhere. There's so much negative fear based thought out there and so many negative acts because of fear. And racism the fear Basak in of itself you. You are afraid of someone who different than you. And you are afraid. They're quote unquote taking over your country. Are, they're going to come into your neighborhood. And and you know robbing and then kill people or something along those lines all of those assumptions. Are deadly obviously. What are thoughts on that? Well. My loaded question. Yeah Yeah, and I'm going to probably sick with. Imagine, imagine if. Rather than than reacting in anger, we took a moment to think about what was real for another human being. As a human being. With compassion and empathy, so I think it's GonNa I think that in order to really shifted the fear is going to require action steps with with true empathy. With human beings being empathetic, not feeling sorry for. Being understanding being compassionate and being seriously curious about what's real for another person. Fear happens in the known a lot to you know that. Right like we. Don't know what to expect and. Right now. This world is in that space. I don't know what to expect, you know. We don't know what's going to happen and there's a lot at this you know. Fear is is take a lot of this fears taking place, so what if we started right now with the people in our own life that we are scared right now? And reach out to them and say I'm imagining what you're feeling right now is probably pretty scared. Because you're over there, you know alone or your? You haven't been able to go out to older per. Reach out and pathetically we start with us. We start from here. There isn't anything I don't think there's nothing I can do. Other than start re right where Matt and this is. What I'm encouraging everyone to do to strike. Start right where you sit. And truly think about what might be real for another human being with empathy and compassion. And? How can you show up for them? Today a lot of fear happens when we get stuck in our own head at least in my world. I get stuck in my head and the only thing that's GonNa. Get me out of it. Most of the time is when I'm there for someone else. And I think we've got this all backwards and confused. That we you know. The fear is what's going to happen to me well if we can lose that. That thought at really look about. Look at what's going to happen to all of us. And make our decisions based from that space and yeah, it's the heart conscious face. It's heart conscious coherence because we're using our frontal lobe to think what the minute that we shifted the pathetic state of the. On all of it, that's how I believe that. We shifted and it starts with me care. Yeah. I think that's all you can do is start with you. One thing I want to urge everybody to do from from my perspective. A lot of people are afraid. To talk about this because they don't want to anger or upset anybody, but sometimes you got to step out and take a risk and start up some conversations, and even if that conversation is met. With defensiveness or anger or misunderstanding? Allow that to be and seek to take the conversation further and remember that. We talk a lot in the tire. Practice stream teachings in this show is all about those things we talk a lot about the vibrational spiral, the virtual vibrational power spiro, our emotions or up in positive territory. Sometimes our oceans can also be down because DT s down the spiral down in negative territory, and calamity is sort of drawing us up and down the spiral all the time and there is work that we can do. That will make. That will give us more control over this virtual vibrational spiral, and really allow us to the up at higher vibration most of the time. That's what tire really is is releasing fear moving up into higher vibration, being more intentional with your thoughts. Manifesting a better reality because you're trusting the universe to really deliver everything you want to need, but in order to get there, you've gotta understand polarity, and you've got to understand some universal truths, and you know universal truth. Is that that? All creation occurs the attraction all of it. And so we're all attracting reality to. The first thing people say when you say something like that is why, in the world would George Floyd attract being murdered. Going on George Floyd's mind, his vibration I could very well have been the fear of dying at the hands of police that that placed in the path about event. And another thing that we do in this, this practice is we practiced. Seeing things through the eyes of the source. That higher perspective where we are all eternal beings. That death is not what we make of. It is as humans that we're going to come to physical existence as some sort of physical being over and over again infinitely, and if you're lifting, I don't know if you're a belief, system allows for that or not i. don't ever ask anyone to take everything. The Stream teaches as Gospel. You Know I. Suggest sampling everything that you want to sample and discerning your preferences, and figuring it out for yourself, because again we all create our bubble reality and I never to be preachy with this message and I I never want to present it. Has One size fits all teachings universal laws universal law, but not everybody is ready to accept that they create their own reality that people do create bad things for a higher purpose in their lives. That's that's hard for a lot of people robbed our heads around. But it does help you sort of. Make sense of these these things that seem very senseless and our world and I don't ever want to hear about. Anyone's getting murdered again ever ever ever ever and I I know you don't either. Most people listened to not. But we all know that it's going to happen. And if we allow these things to take us racing down our spiral, racing down to the lower vibrational territory. There's not a lotta constructive. Things that are available down their anger, get out and burn ability. Yell at somebody, how on social media. Screaming your family. You know who? Do things that absolutely. Do not solve anything. The positive contrast of that is that it highlights the need to go up into higher vibrational territory and come up with real solutions, but in the anger phase. That's not available. We've got to go up and vibration. The interesting thing is we talk about polarity. A lot and tie in that polarity will drag us down no matter what we will go down into negative vibration. And the purpose of that is so that we do drop down and said negative creation territory and create some unwanted things in our lives, so that we can solve them and expand in that process. That's how the entire universe was created, and how our planet was created and continues to regenerate and expand. The purpose of life. And we wouldn't have new creation if we didn't go down our spiral and creative things. I love what you say Debbie. You wouldn't have your spark if you didn't have your dark right. Without you talk, you went spark. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's exactly what that is. So when you think about things like that can actually bring you to a point of appreciation for negative things, and if you look at George, Floyd as an eternal soul, and understand that he has just completed state now. As an eternal soul, being looking back at his lifetime. And appreciating it from the higher perspective, and we're all going to end up there one way or another, hopefully not the way that he did I don't wish for anyone. But that was his life experience, and that was his life journey, and the only thing we can do now is fine a pass to appreciation for those of us that do not know him or did not know him personally that a lot easier than for people that really knew him and loved him right. But I work with people that do this type of work. That? Do find that level of appreciation, and when that is I the thing that I can promise you everybody that's listening is that when you find your path to appreciation for someone who's life was not what you wanted it to be or is it what you want it to be? That really tuned the and the anger and the fear, and all the negative emotions. That revolve around that and you can see them different light appreciation, and if you're wanting to have some sort of ongoing connection to them after they crossed over, that is your clearest path to that. Because their existing higher vibration, once they're no longer human, and they've released their ego, and all that comes with that. And when you stand in appreciation for the positive aspects of them, you are connecting yourself directly with their energy. So, that's what you want. Appreciation the key, even if you don't appreciate fully or at least at the moment how their life went or how their death went. There is a path to that and it's a growth experience for all of us. To view it that way and it takes time. And it's going to take time for this anger hurt t to die down a little bit and when it does, polarity will draw the collective vibration up into positive territory, and if we all allow ourselves to go there. Collectively as human beings humanity. Then all of a sudden. We're going to see some solution some changing merge. I agree with two minutes left before break so obviously. The stream is not appearing today. When we get back though. I'll wait two minutes for break. You have one more thought that you can share debut. We get back. I'm going to read. This letter that. I channeled for a young man on instagram that that asked the stream to make sense of the senseless killing of black people at the hands of law enforcement I'm GonNa read that when we return. Do you have any other dog before you head out to the next break? Actually, not really just the other than. I am truly. Saved for when we return, we'll get that. Return them or read that we'll be right back with deputy. Whole? Feed your soul with waves of consciousness on times radio. I'm David struggled channel author and creator of the Mindset Practice Tai is set of mindset tools that I co created with the Journal wisdom of the Stream join us on the Taya community where we learned to release fear and truly trust the universe to deliver that we want to need. This work is profound if you do the. Camp and maintain a daily practice. You will fundamentally change your life. I've maintained my practice pretty regularly since graduating I'm meditate every day I trust university delivered I want I. Sit intentions for my day in a monitoring my bob up and down my ritual spiral, doing these things consistently and regularly has made me a father to my kids, a bit of Lumberton my partner and a bit of Boston my team. This work is transformational and it will completely change. Your Life icon recommended enough learn the mindset practice that is changing lives all over the world visit David Dot com slash Tiaa Ron Ron and your free discovery meeting today. We are back with Debbie so debbie. You are starting to thought just before the commercial breaks. Go ahead and finish that up. Yeah Yeah. I will you ask? You have anything to add to what you were saying I really didn't actually because I think that. You've really laid out so beautifully. I, don't think I could. Expand on that any better than than what you already had. I've really loved this letter though that you're about to read because I. Did you've shared this already? Looking forward to sharing it right now because it's quite profound. The letter that that I channeled for a young man on instagram. Who reached out? VR instagram account stream of David and wanted the stream to help him make sense. Of the senseless killing of black people at the hands of law enforcement. So this is what they had to say. You're all humans here having a contrast human experience. We have said that you all choose your point of entry to planet Earth Vibration. And those who choose difficult paths are sold seeking greater expansion. Is the. Physical Environment full of what you perceive contrast mix the positive and negative. You come into. Discern your preference for things that you appreciate, and then you're experiencing things that you do not appreciate you. Ultimately create expansion and allowing solutions to flow. From a human perspective, you want things that you perceive as negative to occur, and we certainly understand that a police officer pinning down and on our man. An. Annoying his please to breed is something that most never walked to occur. But things such as this have been happening for as long as history has been recorded and even prior to that on your planet. The difference now is that you have the technology to record it and send that image all over the world and stirring cry for Change. But the change change seem slow, if not completely absent. May indeed seem as though things are getting worse and a global sharing. Accepting that all creation occurs the attraction. You must accept that every. Negative experiences a CO creation by everyone involved. If you follow our other teachings law of attraction polarity. You know that you are all attracting everything into your lives. This is the point when many will say. Why would anyone attract allegedly being killed by police officer? You know from our teachings and your own life experiences that you attract things that you want and things that you do not into your lives. In the case of George Floyd. You do not know what was going on vibration. That would have placed him in the path about events. opposable theory would be that his own fear, justifiably of dying at the hands of police officer placed him in the path about. Regarding the officer who kept his knee Mr Floyd's neck as he bag for air. You know what was going on his vibration. That drove him to such an act, nor will we take our vibration to that place? Our perspective if humanity is that, earth like all physical environments is an imperfect, placed full of contrast, but the positive always prevails. You are eternal beings. Having a temporary human experience in physical life is delicate. Being human, being empathic or even just main, we'll drive anyone with those qualities to anger over such as this. How you channel, anger will determine future events. You get what you focused upon and you on hold others from their contracts that does not mean that you should simply ignore things such as this and focus solely on your reality. Your level of involvement is your choice and there is no right or wrong. If your desire to inspire positive change, we guide you to the contracting event from a higher perspective, understanding your return nature, and that no human can truly ended. That's what you are only take away the human forum and that transition is not what many of you often perceive it to be. When you stop viewing life and death is the end of being an starting appreciating every path, even if it's one you want, wanted your own, and you begin showing the world. What higher vibrational living looks like? We're fear-driven acts such as racism. Or minimized, and you understand that. When you look for bad in someone, you'll find it. And when you look for good, you'll find that this topic will begin to shift. It may not be soon enough from your human perspective. Can we see many speak of world? Peace the issue. There is that you were all here. How contrasting physical experiences and you're all on different paths? When you stand in appreciation of every path, and see the value in the contrast, appreciate those who come with the odds stacked against them, and perhaps even depart physical in a way you deem unjust or evil. You truly connected to a higher perspective. You do not have to follow. Excuse me. You, do not have to allow to stop you from desiring positive change, but pushing against clearly doesn't move things swiftly. This will likely reach a boiling point and those who set their sights toward improving the issue within no longer feeling like victims, but feeling empowered to manifest better circumstances without meeting others to change will find a path to solutions. This is base is all things are in universal all? Part of the contrast being humid that you are often taught the opposite of universal law. You were talking to like victims. The bad things happen to good people and the world is just another just. You were taught to give their power away to your governmental religion and pray for the best. But you do create your reality and trying to change the reality of others as futile. The very best you have to offer is the high vibration version of you. Be. The one who is not pushing against be the one who sets a high five example be the one who promotes personal power, be the one who leaves young Black Man, and this example to believe in themselves, and their wording us that they are safe and valued in able to manifest anything that they desire. That life. This sounds like a different planet so many, but you have examples of a few proven this to be true. Why is that? How did that occur? Belief is the key humans often absorbed bigoted thoughts that are directed toward them. You place yourself in the path of contrast, simply by being different, the high vibe work find a path out by loving yourself more by setting the example. By remembering the good in the world, even when bad things happen, you can design change. Here directed at creating more anger and fear or will not solve much. Since protests and mass anger has not changed. These events and centuries imagine disrupting the collective negative vibe ration- with Turlov for all including southbound for those considered quote, unquote less than and even love for those who judge others based on the color of their skin. Having empathy for their fear based hatred from central vibration. Literally being the Higher Vibrational, being that you truly are and not allowing yourself to dip into that low vibration of hating the racist battling what you perceive as evil with love and light will bring the change you seek, even if it's easy to dip into negative vibration as you are often talked to do, all the solutions are in higher vibration always. Wow how. I mean. I'm curious. What did he went? Did he say that? Did he respond? Oh. He was very very odd. That is response He I don't know now. Somebody that follows me on Instagram He's he's a black man. Very Young I, think and he had a very positive response to it And I sent it to Romania. I did a recording of that and put it up on Youtube. Channel so. If you want to hear it again, certainly you can listen to the replay of this show on on times, or you can go over to our youtube channel the stream of David, where I shot a video reading that letter, a little better than I did live on her so. The the the face value reaction from Romania was. Hearing those words spoken from a white man anger a little bit, but as a spiritual being and spiritual leader, she totally understood in resonated deeply, and it's actually inspired deeper conversation between the two of us, and I learned her perspective on his eager level this morning are meeting, and it was a little different than what I, so not for not contrary to what the strange shared, but she opened my eyes her perspective as a human being. And that was helpful to shift my perspective, even a little further and the point that she made this morning as you know we're, we're vilifying the looting that we're seeing. And of course it's not just black people that are looting. There's all sorts of looting going on, but she pointed out that you know. People have been leading in different ways for centuries, and it's very true. You know people that getting tipped off. the stock tip and go sell their stock. in the stock market, and before the public knows the same information that's insider trading and say legal. It's a form of looting, but it happens all the time. you know the cash grab that US corporations just had with this stimulus package five hundred billion dollars. Much corporations Really a lot of policing. Is that not looting, also, it's all the same for the loosening the least of my worries. You know I. I hate to see someone. Lose their business. To two factor being burned down, vandalized or something like that, you know the the big corporations can weather this stuff, a little better I hate to see. It's not the thing I want to see, but I understand. I understand the outrage and the anger. And some people are protesting, and some people are just angry and other people are taking advantage of the situation. It's all over the place. At the end of the day it's all a collective negative vibes you know when you're destroying things out of anger, and you're actually bringing more things to be angry about to yourself if you understand all the traction, but eventually that Wayne's people go up there spiral, and then from a higher vibration place. Maybe some solutions will spring forward, and and that's really what I'm trying to promote I'm not saying don't be angry. I'm not saying don't protest. Do what you feel compelled to do, but. Understand that when all of that is sent done? What is the real solution? That's GONNA come from this. That's what I want. I exactly that. Is it right there? In that real solution. Keep going back to. It's gotTa start with. Self got gotTa Start Right own house in our own home in our life so that we can expand that out. Because, if everybody just got responsible and accountable for being their own state of being, it would be more Iraqi. lous thing would have it, you know. Go ahead. I was you know I was brought up David With my dad, my Garcia and my dad and my dad since I was two years old and I've always used. But my mom is red headed. My Dad is Mexican American. It's how I grew up. I grew up believing that everybody was the same I didn't have I very blessed like this. Actually dig it because I was brought up to see everybody the same. It didn't make I didn't understand racism at all. I still don't get it whatsoever if you've cut. If you're cut, you bleed red. What is that telling you? What does it tell US hello? If you get, cut me boy green I. Might Look at you funny. They do. Exactly. What I love about. This is just the I-I've that that we could really embrace each other now? Either you brought up something important to, and that is befriend deeds, someone that might be quote unquote different, even though I don't like the word different. But in order to make my point here, we. This is part of the peace on earth. Peace on earth is possible. That I'm a peace on earth leader, a team leader and it's that's one of the Games that we play this. What are the steps in? It is to befriend other people. Isn't that something? There's actually things out there. That are being created right now to make these things happen. Yeah Yeah. It's hard to get past. Hey, but you know when someone when someone hates you. Sometimes, it's really hard to get past that. But somebody eventually has to raise by ration- and be the quote, unquote bigger person, the higher by racial person and seek to understand. The origin of the hatred, none of us were born that way you know a little infant does not come into the world hating someone you were talking about and I was taught that I grew up in the south I grew I was born in Texas grew up in Louisiana. My father was or is not I don't remember him ever saying anything that may be thinks that he was racist at all. These pretty liberal guy, especially for a guy from Texas My mother and my grandmother were. and. The word was used very liberally in my grandmother's house. Old My mother and you I remember watching the cosby show. The Kid and my mother wanted me to turn it off when she was in the room shimmered this demo. See it. I love the Cosby show and I question early on I was definitely raised in a very racially divided racist situation, and could never reconcile early on I'm talking fourth grade around this this age because I remember Sunday school. I quit going to Sunday school around that time. Because that question too much. They didn't like that. Little that I know back then that I had this thing coming to me that I called the stream that was sort of making me question, which was a good thing, but the question I had as you're telling me in one side of the mouth your mouth that we're all God's children. And the other side you're telling me. The black people can attend our church. And you know there. There was I I was exposed to certain facet of religion that even would pull out Bible quotes and twisted into. People who have darker skin are less than evil in God's is. It didn't say anything like that to me, but they interpret it that way, so you can pull things out or determinate them. However you want, and if you're using that to hate somebody that's different from you in justifying it with your religion. That's. That's something that I can't identify with and never have, but I've been around enough of it to I understand that that's their mindset I. Just don't understand how people can progress through life. Experience of beings and stay there. That's a little foreign to me. You know what is making you stay in that place where you not experiencing your life that you in and again it's kind of that fear based victim mindset, you know, why are you? Blaming and we've gotta go in just a moment, but I'll right let you wrap up, you know. Why are we blaming somebody else for our life, not going the way that it. Should I've all about personal empowerment if you're not getting what you want out of life, that's nobody but you. Though left table conversation and we'll. We will regroup this week on spirituality. Go Wild if he doesn't know who he is I, should have done a more formal introduction for you, but you're going to be enough. They're all going to get some really well. Debbie has a fantastic facebook group called spirituality gone wild, and you've got some exciting things, do you WanNa take us out in the next few seconds. Just conduct telling us about that. Oh God Yeah Superior Quality Mild On. FACEBOOK is is a fun platform for people are doing really great. Thanks to be saved and this Thursday. We have Dr John De Martini, which is going to be a really great experience, but mostly it's the place David at I, had whole gang and come interact with people who are actually doing things in this world. To see the solution. Differently And Deepak on over the weekend. Yeah Deepak Chopra. We will. Focus on Saturday night, right? That's right. That's right and we have great great two weeks before that and Arianne Williamson as well so we have a lot of shows coming up on the Saturday night. He's try that is presented by the Patty. Add all of the other great people out there and Stream David Dot Com. You guys just check outskirts while spirituality got mild and see all the great show. You Miss From St David. Yeah fantastic. Thank you so much.

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Daily Magic 13: The Simpsons Hidden World Of Disney

The Ride Through Pavilion

24:47 min | 10 months ago

Daily Magic 13: The Simpsons Hidden World Of Disney

"Hey everybody hey welcome to another episode of daily Magic. These are the episodes in which we are bringing you daily episodes. We'll see how many times I can cram the word episodes into this description. And inside these episodes we're bringing you daily episodes of magic. Nope let me start over. We are doing daily episodes. Oh a you know what it is. Let's get started episode twelve. We don't know if it's Twelve. It could be eleven. Could be thirteen. Who KNOWS Just use your podcast. App is your guide because we don't know what we're doing is we're not your guides. We're not your ride guides. This time typically This a podcast is where we take you on a hyper detailed right of your favorite Disney traction so you can experience the magic no matter where you are and we do hope that those episodes that we have created along those lines over the last year so You know go back and listen to those if you're missing The attractions right now. If you're missing the parks because they're closed Then go back and listen to those who may bring a little bit of joy. Which is the point of all of these daily magic episodes? We're all stuck in our house right now. So we WANNA bring you a little bit of that magic so this is keeping us from going crazy. Hope You keep you from going crazy in say like is is high minded mission is at is. We're GONNA do daily episodes. This is kind of for us. And also we know this is an important in the larger scope of things but This is an indulgence that really takes literally nothing to do. Hit Place so Now that we've completely diminished Our Own Podcast let's get started. We do today Invite you not sure where that was due today. We do today. And if I choose to have a cow man because we're talking simps- own why are we talking the simpsons on a Disney podcast? Well besides the obvious Fox connection in the acquisition and the fact that it is on Disney plus. This is something that we've been planning to do Prior to that. And and that's because we knew that we wanted to do a series of watch through episodes of episodes that go to Disneyworld over the years. That's a that's a big thing on these. Abc Family Sitcoms The Simpsons never actually go to Disneyworld or Disneyland. However there are a couple of episodes in which They go to number one itchy and scratchy land and then they actually do go to like a fake epcot right thing and We're GONNA talk about those two episodes briefly today though the The the biggest out of those two is the one that came out first and that was itchy and scratchy. Land of just. I will note really quick. The chalkboard gag on that was. I am not the reincarnation of Sammy Davis junior okay. That's good it was released October. Second Nineteen ninety-four which just so happens to be two days before my birthday also is my grandma's birthday. Oh and didn't for those of you who follow the Simpsons Simpsons fans the named John Schwartz Wilder Schwartz. Well there is going to mean a lot to. He's the writer of like so many amazing classic. Yeah the quotable. Yeah and this is definitely no exception. So why don't we just jump right in in let's follow the Simpson's too itchy and scratchy land So if you don't follow the Simpsons I say follow. It's like some kind of. Nisha thing you follow the Simpsons. Have you been following? Simpson's number one. I don't know if anybody follows the simpsons anymore. Because they're not that great anymore. Writing has gone downhill. Yeah there's there's some good youtube videos on why it's not good anymore but we won't get into that They do constantly predict. Well Yeah but if you do five hundred plus episodes you're going to get some stuff right and you're you're constantly making satirical comments on Society. I Ju- that's just a lot of averages. You're just going to get a few things right But itchy and scratchy for those of you that don't watch. The Simpsons are very very very violent cartoon and unlike him in Cherry. It's it's part of crusty show. Yeah the clown show and then he has the itchy and scratchy cartoons and yeah itching scratcher definitely a commentary on the violent cartoons in colluding in most notably Tom and Jerry. This is a cat and mouse. It is incredibly disturbing it is. They didn't let Fiona. Watch him for the longest time we would make turn because there. There is like disembowelment and beheadings and blood and swallowing acid in swallowing explosives. And it's I mean they're funny. They're funny but it's it's it's unrealistic and again it's one of those things that you can get away with because you're doing it as a commentary but in in commenting on the violence actually get to create the exact same kind of violent violence or even worse right. Yeah definitely worse. the here's the synopsis from Phantom Dot Com. The family's trip to itchy and scratchy land the violent place on earth proves heavenly until it the ITCHY and scratchy. Robots wants to keep the family. They're for real while who wrote that. That's a terrible synopsis. Should've gone to wikipedia. That was great. So we open up the The episode where Barton Lisa Watching Television and typically scratchy show scratch. You know Presi clown show but still it's called the itchy and scratchy. Show is the okay. And they're watching and then you know they right before the cartoon ends. I think I think maybe the cat works out. A lot gets a lot of muscles and then buffs buffs up and then the cat like a bunch of needles leads and gets all week then he comes in with your muscles and then in that state the cat in the most. I should know this right offhand. But ITCHY IS THE CAT. Right and scratchy is the mouse now. Opposite of that. It's the somebody look it up. I'm not but in any case they. This cartoon ends in a commercial for the fact that Itchy and Scratchy Land. The violence is place on earth is going to be opening soon and now start bugging your parents about it. So there's some there's some back and forth about the kids trying to get their itchy is. The mouse and scratchy is the cat. Oh okay so we won't bore you with all the mechanics of how they get there. Even though I will say it is funnier and far more interesting. How they get there then. Some of these. Abc SITCOMS ABC sitcoms. It's like in the cold open. Yeah I like. It's a contest now. I'm going to Disneyland and my parents don't like me and so I'm going to bring you my next door neighbor's yes. Don't they. Just keep asking over and over and they just ask yeah they they put together like little presentations and then finally they all agree to me. I know but March says we can go on one condition. And that is if you just don't embarrass me because you guys always. I'm always into being horrified with embarrassed. Embarrassed by the family. Yeah I wish I could. There was something March had already planned. It was a trip to the aviary but it was just kind of a like a tree house off the interstate. Yes something so Barton. Lisa Finally Win. Marge over and away. They go now. This is where we really start to realize that. The writers or borrowing heavily from Disneyland I mean how can you not it is right is the theme park but they do still have a little bit of other borrowing from other things including all things. Jurassic Park because as they fly him in because they fly a man so so you can only assume that there's a there's like ticketing and transportation center much like Magic Kingdom and then they get on this helicopter. That's where we pick up there on the helicopter flying over into this island in a does it. Looks like it's drastic park. They make it seem like and the pilot says welcome to Itchy and scratchy land where nothing can possibly go wrong. And then he goes. That's the first thing that's ever gone wrong okay. So there's quote number one so she you know. Marge's still uneasy about it right. They seller on parents island. Yeah ousted they sell on it and they just don't Maggie into a pet but when you when when they first walked in clearly was like main street and there was a parade and they made some joke like hurry. Up Guys is time for the nine. Zero Five parade. We better hurry up and get our places otherwise. We'll have to wait till the nine fifteen parade. That probably used to be the case anymore like to parade today and currently they don't even have like nighttime parade at kingdom anymore. We do better parade. That's true they do have the water electrical liner. That's true. It's cute two guys. We were on a key to the kingdom tour. Oh yeah but on on it. So so they they all end up going on this log ride which is clearly a splash mountain reference right and as there. Is there going along? It's Nice and calm and you hear some Banjo music and you see some like Chintzy you see like these Chintzy Animatronic going and marge is like this is exactly what I had imagined. Our vacation would be that second. The log drops out from underneath them. Huge Sigh Yeah. They just drop straight down and then they start coming out of nowhere and they actually cut the the their log in half the family flies out half the family flies to the left. The other family flies to the right they land on some some like mats. It's really weird it's very John Schwartz. Well there to write something like that for the fly out and then land on Matt's The kids WANNA go again in March is like you know what maybe it's time to go to parents island which by the way This this does this have any reference to the other lands in Itchy and scratchy land. Because I know there's unnecessary surgery. Land there searing gas pain land. I will look that up okay. So so that's splash mountain and main street. Those were kind of our first references to to Disney at least nods to Disney. And then you have this parents island which is kind of in your by. This came out in one of pleasure. Island there in a Disney world was a real thing yet What were like they had different clubs and there was actual nightlife there. Hey come in any case We just found it. The rat there rides torture Land Explosion Land. Searing gas pain land and unnecessary surgery. Land and then some of the rides were the head Bashar. Bloodbath Mangla the nauseates issues minefield log. Ride Soren over Springfield Itchy scratchy itchy and scratchy injury five hundred tavern on the scream. Nice so they. They experience a couple of clubs or restaurants. Oh this gives the description for parents island too okay. So CONSUME ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES LEARN NEW RECIPES. Hammock loafing watching hours of television or delude themselves into living in the seventies again right because also includes an itchy seventies disco where it's always nineteen seventy five or whatever. Yeah and then they go to the. That's where they also have the the club that is constantly New Year's Eve con counting down. Yes and that's where marge and homer. After counting in the New Year everyone celebrating their playing all laying Zayn and she looks at one of the waiters as they're dancing and says it must be wonderful to bring in ring in the New Year so often and he looks at her. Kill me quote number two number two so while that's going on yeah. Scratch EASIER SCR cheese. Oh uh their what their visit. A movie theater. Yeah so that movie theater. This is back to a reference to what used to be that little kind of theater in the round On Main Street currently in Disneyworld that's been converted into a I think that's where the art the art of Disney shop is. Yeah and they also have keys in the kingdom thing. Yeah they're really kind. Yeah it is cool. But it's it's it used to be you'd walk in and it was like you were going to a nineteen twenties cinema and that's where they would have plane crazy like literally plane crazy. Being projected on one screen steamboat willy being projected on the other. So that's why they're in there watching these movies. It's a reference to what at the time was the current feeder. I forget what that's called. This is also a scene where we have our first like uh-huh moment yeah because they're watching scrapped as you mentioned scratched Asia and I don't even know Michio but This is one. Bart throws a stink bomb at one of the actors in an Itchy. Sue arrested by park security. Well yeah and but he's. He's already been abusing. The guys are the people in the suits in like the itchy and scratchy by stomping on the me shot a smoke bomb into wipe them isn't before this is this where the board CENA's yes. Okay so this. One is quoted a lot in our house. This is quoted a lot and you can actually kind of have this experience in Universal Studios Only. Because they sell okay. So so bart walks into Barton. Lisa walk into a little gift shop and Just like all good. It's leave show outdoor like it's an open. No it's indoors is it really. Oh yeah well. They have a little rack of bicycle. Personalized nameplate nameplates for your bike. So like a little bow license plate. It's got your name on it. Name Var is so excited and he goes through these different names and right where Bart should be. He's it says poor it. These are bored and then this little kid runs up behind him. Says Mommy Mommy? They've got my name. Can I get it? And she's she grabs him by the armistice. No come along come along port and then a man who's standing in the background turns around and looks at the lady says. Are you talking to me? And she says No. My Son's name is also board. Yeah we call that one quite but the other thing that during the parade they showed that the parade involved robot Itchy Itchy scratchy and whole army of them and they were actually hurting each other like with axes and in bombs and stuff but the the a park worker guy would guest services guy would walk up and put them at ease and say no. No no no these things. Don't worry they're only Program to kill each other not humans And then they show cletus. I don't know if this was cleese's first appearance but cletus the slack jawed yokel takes a flash picture of one of them of one of the robots and then lashed Kinda airdropped it out. Yeah Yeah so so. They've established that. That's actually I first turning point. That is the first and then while they're in the theater the One of the robots actually turns on the other chops his head off. Yeah and it comes flying through the screen and Bart and Lisa. Don't even notice. This is after having a conversation wondering if they're desensitized to violence these cartoons so yeah I mean just moving things along. I mean. There's just a lot of funny Gash. So much like they're all syncing episodes. Yeah fake yeah. This thing is just packed. But there's just a lot of Disney references. You guys should you guys should watch it When you get a chance it's called itchy and scratchy land but the kind of brings us to the ending of of this episode. Where Bart as an homer gets in homer homer gets in trouble. I forget how homer gets in trouble. Kicks one of them. Yeah he he. They both are pranking. But they're doing different kinds of brain. Yeah right in is like throwing speak stink bombs into He. He's got arrested for kicking itchy in the but yeah right exactly. Both kind of so they go to again. Here's another reference Disney jail. They don't go to Disney jail. But they go to the underground utility or jail jail so now they're bringing in the utilit- or element of it and for some reason. The security guards are dressed like like imperial officers which? I just think it's hilarious and they're all pale. It's almost the same suit The uniform homer war as the monorail. Direct Yeah conductor but for more gray and darker so yeah. Yeah so so. Marge is actually poor. Marge she's in the gift shop getting up. Getting t shirts made up that say the best simpsons the best vacation ever and then this voice comes over the intercom. Marge Simpson come to you. Know the security Your son has been arrested and then people start seeing whoever this woman is out with her and then another episode or another a whole new left for another voice comes over same guy because he says March Simpson come to security. Because you're older fatter. Son has been arrested too so she ends up going down to get them but now that brings this kind of into the underbelly. The inner workings of the theme park where we see a bunch of scientists and robot. Somehow these people are working on robots or professor Frank. Yeah Oh that's another one of my favorite things that one of the robots are laying on the table and they're trying to figure out what's going wrong and all they do is just kind of. Yeah that didn't like the picture being a sheet. And all they do is just take off his his face just like it's a robot they just kind of like lift lift at this playoff of there and it screened says. I hate that they make scream hate them. I don't know why we made him screamer well so eventually while they're getting all this sorted out the robots just start going crazy on their own. I forget what it was. It was some just lame comical excuse to get him and so they emerge from utility tunnels or the security place to so crazy to see that every body is is running to the helicopter to evacuate because main street has been completely taken over and homer tries to get his family onto the hill. Ask helicopter but who is sitting in. The helicopter is the guy in the itchy suit and he kicks homer off and the helicopter flies away so we let you guys. Yeah so now. They're left to fend for themselves and Turns out that as soon as bart the throws a camera at one of them no homer does homer throws his camera at one of them. The flash goes off in three of them then and he activated in theirs so they run to the camera shop and they are pulling out all the cameras and making the flashes. Go off right until they destroyed all. Yeah Yep and then they just say this is the best vacation ever because he did something together off. All of Marge's like must do's for a family vacation like come together as a family. Yeah whatever Blah so go ahead and watch it It's it makes a lot of sense if you want makes a lot of Disney references. Yeah that are indirect for sure and what yes but it's also kind of a parody or a satire one hundred percent yeah talking about how Mickey Mouse or Don. I can't say that any Disney has become this capitalist right. It had all the trappings. And of course we were talking. Simpson's often will be making commentary and definitely through this. You know what I think. We should save the The other thing we're gonNA talk about till another episode. Oh really Yeah we're clocking in at twenty minutes here unless Y'all just want to mention it real quick. Yeah I mean it's not well it's kind of a longer if it can't be a lot of stuff we'll say oh we'll save it. Hey It gives you a chance to watch it. Maybe yeah and then you part so watch it. Gene scratchy land and then get on Disney plus and watch Special Edna Yup special. Ed which is Is Two thousand. Three's last season season. I was born season. Fourteen episode three year was a number of Ram two hundred ninety eight. I think maybe it said. Go Edna check it out go down and then we'll talk about that later so go watch it. Enjoy laugh laugh because it's the simpsons laugh because it's making Disney references. It's just kind of fun things coming together. I think that's GonNa do it for today's episode allowance. Fun that was fun and Look at that. We've got an under twenty five minutes if we can wrap things up and forty seconds. I guess we're wrapping it up. I'm Amy We got some really fine coming up guys to stick around. We'll see you next time own. Quiet talk over the ALTRO. Okay will you want your Jeremy and Liam and is in his in his room. Oh I forgot to say that.

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SegWit2x, Part 2

Malicious Life

49:47 min | 7 months ago

SegWit2x, Part 2

"Hi I'm ran Levy. Welcome back to malicious life collaboration with cyber. This is part two of our three part series on Segue to x the BITCOIN network upgrade proposal, which changed history of cryptocurrencies back in two thousand seventeen. There is perhaps no better encapsulation of wide bitcoin struggles as a payment system. Then what occurred when two famous Bitcoins Presi allies irs gun on stage together for a debate last year. The just did not introduction. I would imagine if you don't know who they are, then who basically? This we're at the. ABC Summit in Multi onstage are three people. Moderator Tone Vase well known speaker and proponent for Bitcoin in its original form and Rocca Veer. Now. We need to take a minute to talk about Roger Veer his, not the type of guy whose name you mentioned quickly then move on dedicated listeners to this show have actually heard of Roger before he featured once we flee now episode on Mount God's as the Mount Guckes. BITCOIN EXCHANGE WENT DARK, realizing they've lost millions upon millions in other people's money. got in front of a camera and said in fifty seconds that the rumors about dogs being bankrupt, where not true that their CEO Mark Capellas showed him bank statements that proved the financial issue at hand had nothing to do with the company's liquidity. While reading from script slightly off camera with all the conviction of a terrorist hostage. Of course mound ducks was dead broke, so why did Roger even do the video? He didn't have to put his reputation on the line. Honestly I don't know he's an odd guy. It's certainly clear. Why Mount Guckes would have wanted him to do testimony although Roger may be the world's most well known missionary forbid coin after investing in early two thousand eleven, he began spreading the word all around the world on Youtube in news articles wherever for his work promoting bitcoin to the world. He's even earned the nickname bitcoin Jesus. He's kind of E-. Perfect guy for the job. Super enthusiastic, always smiling. He's good looking to dark brown hair. Line I'd pay at least a couple bitcoin. Get for myself and honestly listeners. Let's face it if you need somebody for a video or Hetero image for an article. Do you really want Pete Avella Jeff Gosic Bitcoin guys. They usually look well kind of like me. They've got messy hair. missy beards a little overweight. Type, if you're CNBC and you need someone for apiece on Bitcoin. You want Roger Up there. But. He's a wild card in two thousand and five Roger moved to Japan after serving ten months in prison for selling large quantities of firecrackers on Ebay without a license. He's the kind of aggressive libertarian. Who and this is real renounces his. U. S. citizenship and becomes a citizen in the tax haven of Saint, Kitts and Nevis for a period of time after he did that, he was barred from returning to the country. So, this is who we're dealing with here. At the IDC summit in Malta gets on stage for what will be the third of a set of three popular debates with tone, vase. Roger, by this time has completely ditched bitcoin in favor of an all coin called bitcoin cash or B., c. h. with a much larger blocks affected. He's arguing bitcoin. With its block size limitations is not workable as payments systems that make any sense. I'd like to explain exactly why such a big fan of bitcoin cash so yesterday I got to give a talk here and on every single person's table out there we had the private key on a golden ticket where you could scan it with any wallet. They can important private key and claim your bitcoin cash right from the wall. We gave five dollars to every single person that was in the room yesterday. Worth of BITCOIN cash. And that was only possible because the fees were low. If we tried to do that exact same thing with the BTC version of bitcoin today it would be impossible because to move the five dollars from the private key on the piece of paper to your phone, it would cost three dollars, and then you'd have two dollars left on your phone, but to send the two dollars from your phone to the next person. It would cost three dollars which you wouldn't have and tone visas hard blockchain, consultant and former Wall Street analysts provides the rebuttals. So, very simple rebuttal, so for the last at least the next last nine months or more are used bitcoin pretty much every day. I have not paid more than one dollar fee for a bitcoin transaction last nine months so I have no idea where that three dollar averages come from. Keeping Mind folks. We're only two minutes into the debate at this point. I have no idea. Where is color from, but I have not. For a dollar for a fee in about a year, pull out your wallet right now in BTC and let's see what the fee calculation is, and we'll find out right now. In front of hundreds of onlookers tune takes out his poop. So my wallet, my wallet allows me my wallet. Allow me to set eighty fi I like I can Santa Roger Right now. Five dollars five cents fee and it will go. With a five sixty sure, please do and I'll post it all online later. We can see they get stuck in the pool for as potentially weeks. It's not with a five cent fee. Roger and tone are both smiling, but it's obvious that they're different kinds of smiles. This tone initiates small bitcoin transaction to Reuters account. He's rocking slightly in his chair. His foot begins tapping. He's looking down at his phone. Rogers leaned over looking over his sparring partner like pre with the kind of confidence that made him into Rosia. Veer the bitcoin Jesus. Is there such a difference of opinion? Here is obvious which one's GonNa wind out of to. Already know which one one. Roger hasn't. The look over your shoulder. Is that okay sure? Roger Leans in world sends you five. They sending me five dollars a whole. The! I'll say I'll say it on this particular wallet the default fees, one dollars, thirty three cents the default fee. I go click a button says change feet I set to standard i. can just click a button and set it to low dot drops my feet the twenty seven cents. That's the low version still kids I can make it lower than that because I can choose my own fee. The best. How much time do you want to spend? Since we're limited on time, but right now I'm sending your I'll just use the twenty seven. I can lower it to five cents if you lie to five cents and we'll see how. It stuck in the Memphis custom. Fear Souto, she's. It's clear that the energy. The Room has shift. The audience members supporting Bitcoin. Tensing up the bitcoin cash people I loving. The two men can t new arguing like? But it's great entertainment. I'm not sure how many sense that will be semi says. The. Say Seventy one, so she per byte like all bitcoin cash transactions. No one uses bitcoin cash. That's why it's so cheap. Send it so that's an absolute I and anyone can go and see the number of transactions happening on the network. Let's go ahead and lower it to ones that though she per byte. On we've only got a few minutes lowered to one of those who provide and I'll bet one son fee. There he goes. What does it say, says transaction success. Thank. Needs to get confirmed, it may not have been so obvious to the audience at the time, but watching back on video you can see Rogers. Face change when tone says no uses bitcoin cash. He was smiling playing around before. That sly comment and left her received from the audience change something in his demeanor shifts. You can sense his geared up. He looks tone vase straight in the eyes like nobody else is into whom so here you go tone. If that gets included in a block today. I'll donate ten thousand dollars to the charity of your choice. Tone averts his case. The conversation moves on as the two men go back and forth, and the moderator mostly forgotten already lanes in his chair legs crossed with an air of well. I guess I'm not needed here. He's not really. After five minutes the bet comes back around. It's at the exact right moment in the argument when he smiles wryly like a super villain, raising an eyebrow and excitedly riches for his phone. As soon as tone sees the shift in Rogers Body language. that nervous smile creeps back onto his face. So actually I have news about that. I was checking my wallet here and it looks like because the fee was so low. It looks like the network didn't even detect the transaction and it's not. It doesn't look like it didn't even get relayed by the note, so it hasn't even arrived in my wallet yet. So tune looks down teaspoon of message here and Whoa I e the transaction. The moderator throws up his hands. I don't have the transaction ID so. Say. Confirmed! Action and so it says priority, twenty, three, thousand, eight, hundred and thirty, sixth out of twenty, four, thousand, three, hundred and fifty five transactions that means that every single transaction the bitcoin network where to completely stop right now, and every single block is only clearing the backlog of transactions on the BITCOIN network. Right now. It's going to take. About ten blocks so about an hour and a half before his transaction gets included in a block if every. Day! Thousands don't have a date to get the ten thousand dollars you do, and it's not gonNA. Make it because the network. People are making transactions every single time, so if People are using the network. You should not be paying one cent fee. When so many people are using the network, or you could just switch to Bitcoin cash and pay a tenth of a penny per train uses it. Who Send it to pull out your wallet right now. The cash while I'm a big. Waste. So. It didn't have to get to this point. In the early days almost as soon as the one megabyte block size limit was conceived so where discussions on how to raise it given Andriessen, arguably the second most powerful developer in bitcoins. And hearn and other early developer who worked alongside the founder of the platform Saito Shihan commotto each proposed ideas for how to upgrade that limit in the future. Jeff Gaza the most famous developer behind segue to x proposed all the way back in October, two, thousand and ten. One month after the limit was implemented in the first place that it be raised to seven megabytes, Satoshi himself address how such change might be enacted in the future writing quote? It can be phased in. It can start being inversions way ahead, so by the time it reaches that block number and goes into effect. The older versions that don't have it are already obsolete. When we're near the cutoff block number, I can put an alert to old versions to make sure they know they have to upgrade and quote so in other words will jump off that bridge. When we get there, I'll handle it. And he would have handled it probably very well. Whenever the limit needed to be adjusted, he would have joined up with these core team come up with a solution that worked and signal that all the users adopt their new patch, done and dusted. But then feet turn the following year settle. She was gone last we heard from the famous mysterious inventor of Bitcoin came in response to an email from Mike her. They were discussing some technical matters. When Mike changed the subject quote, I had a few other things on my mind is always he writes one is. Are you planning on rejoining the community at some point, Eg for code reviews, or is your plan to permanently step back from the limelight and quote? She replies April. Twenty Fourth Two thousand eleven quote I've moved on to other things, it's in good hands with given and everyone and quote the creator of the network. The one and only person everybody listened to was gone. He gave us bitcoin now. It was up to the rest of us to get along on our own. A few years ago, I wanted to subscribe to a certain popular music streaming service as an avid music lover I was more than willing to pay for the subscription, but unfortunately that service wasn't yet available where I lived in Israel I had no choice but to use a VPN virtual private network to mask my true location and let me tell you i. I. Wish I'd Heard About Express VPN back then finding a good trustworthy VPN service with low latency, took a lot of trial and error, but express VPN it just works. 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Begins, you need not go much further than that debate between rover and tone vase Roger wasn't arguing for two x, but the principle is the same bitcoin in its modern state is problematic as a payment system throughput with a one megabyte limit has left a large pool of unconfirmed transactions in a state of. Of Limbo and getting out of that limbo is unnecessarily expensive. It honestly can be confusing for to exporters to conceive of why users won't be the first to get behind a block size increase. They are the ones after all who have to pay transaction fees. Minors won't complain if you have to throw them an extra five bucks every time you pay Steve. The fact is that low throughput hurts everyone. Economies thrive when people are out spending money, the more money moving around the system, the more valuable each beat of it becomes making everyone richer. Lots of startups formed around bitcoin during the Medicaid with the prospect that one day this system might become a popular worldwide currency if the network can scale to accommodate even those. It now it's light years from being workable scale of ordinary Fiat currencies, and even segue with all its innovativeness only creates a few megabytes of actual transaction storage pitcher block at best to this way of thinking segue is a tasty whipped cream topping. Top a tiered sandwich. There are however ways to increase bitcoin transaction capacity significantly without doing anything to the blocksize in our part. One episode we discussed how it. In addition to effectively increasing the blocks is fixed his signature malleability before segue the cryptographic signatures associated with transactions were vulnerable to tampering this never became such a problem for the blockchain itself, but it was prohibitive for second layer protocols programs built on top of the blockchain to add to its functionality. The reason is simple. You can't build a second layer on top of vulnerable firstly with segue. All the best ideas for secondly protocols were only fleet. One in particular was seen by many as the thing to finally make bitcoin scalable. It's called the lightning network. The lightning network like Bitcoin is a decentralized network. It uses what's called smart contracts, basically software scripts to enable instant payments that key insight of the lightning network is that it uses the Bitcoin Ledger, not as the means of making transactions, but rather as the means of settling transactions. Say You WANNA. Pay For your morning coffee with Bitcoin. You'll have difficulty if there's five dollar fee every time and the payment takes ten minutes to confirm. The lightning network allows you to avoid these issues by taking your payments off the blockchain. You begin by funding secure payment channel between yourself and the coffee shop, using for example to centipedes or zero point zero to bitcoin. Next month you use your to center bits to buy coffee every day. Those thirty copies together cost one and a bit half the total few head. After that much coffee. You'll get sick of the place ill, so you the contract with a final transaction which states that you now own only one sent a bit of the Bitcoin you put in, and the coffee shop owns the other one senate. See, what just happened? You made thirty payments over a month, but the ledger only recorded two events, your initial contribution of to Santa Bits and the final allotments of one sent to each party in other words, Public Bitcoin Ledger was used only to settle your transactions, not caring them out. Lightning network is much better at carrying them out after all since it allows transfers to occur instantly and without fees. The lightning network has a number of other features that make it highly scalable like severe fraud protection and advanced routing mechanism which allows users to pay other users without having to open a direct channel simply by rounding payments through other users in the network. In the end. It's simple. Lightning allows for thousands of payments instantly with no fees backed by the security of the Bitcoin blockchain, wild, taking up very little of its storage capacity. You can see the appeal users, core developers and businesses alike were excited at the prospect of great, if for no other reason than it would finally let loose the lightning network, but not everybody was. was equally thrilled about lightning. Miners didn't love the idea for reasons. You don't have to wreck your brain to guess more transactions occurring off. Jane means less work for them, but the also had better reasons to worry. The overwhelming majority of mining power comes from China, a country, which doesn't particularly get along with the notion of an extra governmental currency network China can't really do anything about Bitcoin, but lightning to it's less transparent. Nature is more vulnerable to malicious manipulations. There's also the fact that lightning was still an unproven solution. Some believed there were technical scenarios which could lead it to become centralized or even unworkable on the whole. But any argument about the viability of lightning network must also take into account that segue to X. itself relied on an update to bitcoins core software. That was itself on proven. BTC One was the name of the software implementation, which when activated by a note on the network, would run Bitcoin, according to the Segue to X. Rules, the author of BTC one was quite capable developer who is in our last episode Jeff Gosic, the problem was that without support from the core development team. The BTC one client was not being subjected to the same rigorous code reviews, that occurs for difficult bitcoin network upgrades. This made it much more likely to not work as intended or contain serious. Vulnerabilities and for many in the Bitcoin community. This was not just a theoretical possibility. bitcoin unlimited was one of the earlier skating solutions to make it onto the network in December two, thousand fifteen. It was released with a simple idea to allow minors and uses to dictate their own blocksize peripherals with the unlimited client. Users can signal what blocksize they prefer and minors can configure a size of locks the wants to. The market decides from there. Whether. You like the concept of it or not in March of two thousand seventeen became clear why a tentative bitcoin clients can pose a risk to use. It began with a ready to post describing a remote crash `vulnerability in unlimited software, nearly all nodes running unlimited where expose quote to be explicitly clear just by making a request on the peer to peer network. This could be used to crash any node with this bug and business could have been shut down media, transaction and exchange in the middle of their high volume, treating period and minor in the course of operating could be attacked. In this manner, the network could have in total been brought down. Major businesses could have been brought grinding to a halt and. The user used a lot of could and could have in the post, but it took only hours for a potential to become a reality. With simple and explicit directions, a hacker took down around two thirds of all bitcoin unlimited notes that day a quick batch was released later today, and by the following day, most of the down nodes were backup. Whoever hacked bitcoin unlimited me has been trying to prove a point, or maybe they were just bored either way. Unlimited users got off ease. The vulnerability had been sitting there for over a year. The date was exploited. It was patched and everything returned to normal. You just don't hear stories like this about Bitcoin. I mean there are bitcoin related hacks for example, the bankrupting amount Guckes, but the core software itself has tended to avoid any significant experts that's in large part because the core development team methodically rigorously tests all code deployed to the network. Just because some of the world's most talented developers are picking apart. Every update doesn't mean you're guaranteed impenetrable software, but he does ensure a level of difficulty that most hackers can't touch. The BBC client was not subject to such screwing. It was not an option to begin with since none of the core devs wanted in. The program would have to stand on its own merit, but who wanted to roll the dice on an alternative software client just two months after the unlimited. The single biggest issue with these segue to X. Idea, though was that it would initiate a contentious hard fork. Broadly speaking a blockchain protocol can be changed in one of two weeks via soft fork or hard fork. The difference is simple, but the consequences are drastic. Soft forks are backwards compatible meaning that non upgraded nodes can still participate in the network so long as the don't break the new protocol rules think about it like an operating system update any program which worked on say windows. Ten point one should still work on windows ten point too hard forks are backwards incompatible meaning that non upgraded notes will not. Not Be able to participate blocks, which were previously valid will no longer be think about it like changing operating systems, a program designed for windows will not work on Mac homeless, so there are reasons for initiating soft fork and reasons to initiate a hard fork, but doing the letter is far more serious and hopefully rare when Bitcoin user in two thousand eleven initiated to transactions, worth ninety two billion Bitcoin, each the network had two heart fork to incompatible versions of the blockchain were created one with the value. Value overflow transaction and one without it. Everyone on the network upgraded to version of the blockchain, which made that transaction and all transactions like it invalid, but that was easy, because everybody was eating agreement about what to do. Nobody had an incentive to keep the hacked version of the blockchain alive. A contentious heart fork is one when parties to the network don't agree with one another in such a case, you still get to versions of the blockchain, but now there are coalitions which support either side a race. Race begins with each blockchain, vying to outpace the other by having a longer chain and more mining power behind it from here, one of two scenarios can occur either one version of the blockchain, the old or the new one will clearly prevail over the other, because it is more popular or a both will be popular enough to survive and two independent blockchain's will have been formed contentious heart. Folks tend to be bad for everyone. There's a competition rather than corporation and the uncertainty puts everyone's assets at risk. Segue was created as a kind of compromise in order to avoid contentious heart. Fork all this time we've been talking about raising or not. Raising the blocksize segue actually does increase the block from one megabyte to four. It just does it in such a way. That doesn't require the network to hard fork the transaction data who's? To whom and how much remains in V one megabyte base block while signature data, which verifies the sender's legibility to make such transaction is appended to an extended block. Crucially miners who haven't upgraded to Segue can continue mining under the old paradigm if they wish it's an upgrade for those who wanted really then segue wasn't a rejection of a block size increase. It was a rejection of hard for king as a means of getting that done a workaround accomplishing what both sides were after raising the effective capacity of the block without actually raising its one megabyte limit. Why wasn't this enough? For the segue to X. supporters transaction throughput was about to quadruple now it needed to double again three months later via a hard fork. That would fracture the community in have. Questions like these made some of the no two X. Community questioned the motives of Segue to exporters. If they were really trying to help, the would have collaborated. Weave the user community rather than alienating them. They wouldn't stake bitcoins future on contentious heart fork. Maybe SEGUE TO X. wasn't meant to be an agreement after all. Maybe it was a blatant open faced power grab. Heart forks can be good for that after all they're away. A of imposing will over a blockchain whether you like it or not in a hard fork, there is no compromise. There are two blockchain's and the heft to fight it out to survive. Maybe the signatories of the New York agreement would have fared the user community to get behind their proposal, but it wasn't actually necessary to accomplish. Accomplish their goals with eighty percent of the mining power behind them, the could initiate the heart Fort Without user or developer support when the two chains split with the overwhelming majority of hashing power on their side. It's likely that the Segue to X. Chain would win out over the legacy chain then uses would have no choice, but to accept that Segue to X. was then you normal? And it gets worse. There was ample evidence to suggest that segue to X. wasn't about upgrading Bitcoin at all, but transferring ownership from many to the few an exercise in determining who actually has the power to control bitcoin and who doesn't. Some of you might remember are malicious life episode about the Dow. Heck when an investment pool running on the Cerium blockchain got hacked, and the community had to decide whether to hard fork the blockchain in order to get millions and millions of dollars back from the hacker. In the end, the blockchain forked into ethereal with the funds returned to their original. And cerium classic without the change. When heart forks, 'cause splits like this. Users actually get two copies of their coins one for each chain. Because of the two chains only split off at sin point in the blockchain, the each share, the entire history of the chain up until that point so however much you owned to that point exists for you under both paradigm. One unintended consequence of the theorem hard fork was that it failed to implement one key feature that protects. During heart forks. It's what's called. We play protection. Let's say I own one ether before the split, and now I have one ether in both ethereal and ethereal classic I decide to send nate, Nelson Zero Point five ether from my account on the old chain as a bonus for being such a great producer Oh. shucks, Ron. You shouldn't have. Buddy turns out. He's actually very bad producer. He takes advantage of the heart fork by copying the transaction data associated with my payment on the old chain, and uploading it to the new ledger. Now I've paid him twice. Little runt more. Woah. Sorry as How'd he pulled it off well, he took advantage of what's the same on both blockchain's and different. What's the same one? My private key is the same on both chains to all my transactions before the Dow Hack Block part of both ledgers. Of One and two a transaction of zero point, five ether sent from key to Nate's ski would generate the exact same transaction data whether it's on one chain or the other. What's different about the to change only one thing? They're transaction history. The new chain can't see what's happening in the old one and vice verse, so nate is able to generate transaction which checks out on the new chain, even though he simply copy pasted from the old one. This is the kind of double spending that blockchain as a concept was designed to prevent like the number. One rule in blockchain is that you can't double spent, but without replay protections in hard fork you can. Segue to. X was a hard for proposal without replay protection that is any use who will stick with the original bitcoin will be vulnerable to replay attacks and less. The bitcoin developers will modify the bitcoin core software to defend against. This can be viewed as a kind of a threat. It's as if I bring a tiger to your house. And say If you're so worried about getting eaten, you chain her, or you can just leave your house, you know. Actually perhaps more accurately, it was a bit abet by the segue. To export is on themselves that they would be the ones dictating the future of Bitcoin, and their opponents would be the ones seceding to there will. Theories abound that segues to x was nothing less than an attack meant to destroy bitcoin core. It was a power grab. It was a mass transfer of wealth to those with the means to effect change from those without it. It was a cyber attack. A cyberattack. Indeed some community members were suggesting that Segue to x was in effect, the first major instance of the worst kind of scenario, any cryptocurrency holder could fear a fifty one percent attack. As you know by now. BITCOIN's power lies in its decentralisation. If a hacker wanted to forge a transaction to make themselves rich, the rest of the community would note the forgery and agree not to accept it onto the blockchain. The community has more power than the individual, so it's easy to prevent the heck think of it like a group of friends splitting a pizza. Nobody's able to take more than their fair share because everyone else has an interest in preventing that from happening. A fifty one percent tech can occur when one entity or coalition of entities own enough of the mining power on the network to dictate its reality, if a hacker wants to forge a transaction and the own over fifty percent of the networks Hash power. They're going to be able to do so. It's a group of friends sharing pizza. Except one friend is Arnold Schwarzenegger. Even the rest of Arnold's friends together won't be able to stop him if he's hungry after one slice. Now, think about what Segue to x is a proposal to change the network backed by eighty percent of the mining power on the network in an op Ed for coin. Desk Eden IAGO CEO of the bitcoin startup, EPI fight hooted succintly quote. The fifty one percent attack has remained a hypothetical boogeyman until now and. Others even its opponents disagreed that segue to X. constituted a fifty one percent attack because the proposal involved heart fork. They argued the two weeks miners would not actually be attacking the legacy chain. The would simply be abandoning it to create their own live and let live. But what about if they went further than that minors? Head and coming majority as compared with the legacy chain could easily attack the opposing chain by counter, intuitively dedicating their mining power to that chain instead of the two weeks one the actually preferred. With more than fifty percent of the power on the old chain, the could manipulate it to their will changing transaction. or even halting the chain altogether until it came to still death. In Op Ed for Coin Telegraph David Dinkins not the mayor outlined what appeared to be a probable outcome quote, if there are indeed two bitcoins one backed by the developers and the other backed by the miners, mass, confusion and chaos are likely to ensue, as would be. Investors won't know which bitcoin is the quote unquote real bitcoin in order to solve this potentially devastating problem. It's likely that the majority chain will attack and destroy the minority chain. The way that would work is simple since two x will have eighty five percent of the minors. Minors, a small portion of minors can begin mining the legacy chain at some point they launch a fifty one percent attack against the minority chain, causing double spence blockchain rewards, and generally making v Legacy Network on usable and quote nobody knew was the miners would do, but frankly if they could destroy the old blockchain, forcing everybody who owned Bitcoin to adopt their solution. Why wouldn't they? This isn't to say? Minors are all bad or exclusively self interested. They're not, but investors had reason to worry about how they might exert their power in a medium. Sem Waters blockchain public speaker laid out a pretty good reason. Why remember when we talked about how bitcoins growing popularity was causing the scaling issues which had been debated for years prior to flare up in a way they never had before more people were buying Bitcoin, so the price went up so more people bought and overtime the transactions over the network caused major logs and slowdowns when. When a backlog occurs transactions get stuck in what's called the mental purgatory where those transactions must live, until minor finally includes them in a block using the website blockchain dot info waters posted a graph, the size of the mental from May two, thousand sixteen, to July, two, thousand, seventeen and interesting pattern, emerged spikes in the size of the temple, started to occur in late, two, thousand sixteen, but. These were only temporary. The real sustained spike only really began in May two thousand seventeen. Throughout, the month of April unconfirmed transactions fluctuated between seventy, five, thousand and merely zero. By mid may the numbers to shoot up one, hundred, thousand, one, hundred and fifty thousand on May twenty, the peak, there were nearly two hundred thousand. A week later after a month of sustained chaos, the number dropped like a stone by June. It was back to seventy, five thousand by July nearly zero. So, what caused that spike? I don't want to say. I'll use the author's own works quote. A group of people desperately wanted to push their ideas to increase scale ability. The moment escaping solutions Segue to x was agreed upon behind closed doors towards the end of May, the attacks suddenly ended. While some people were hopeful or deceptive about these spikes in unconfirmed transactions, being organic growth, further analysis clearly shows it was span to push people into increasing the blocks is the attackers made it expensive to send bitcoin transactions for weeks in a row by using up as much transaction space as possible through all kinds of constructions and. What does this mean well what you've heard so far? Is that bitcoins? Popularity is what caused the giant backlog and high fees. That story made sense, so you believed it. But if what is right, which we should mention is hotly disputed then maybe the narrative around bitcoins scaling problems is flawed. Maybe the network in two thousand seventeen was large part fine. Maybe the scaling problem became scaling crisis through deliberate subversion of the network by those with. Incentives intended to trick the community into believing that solution like the one they favored segue to x was necessary to solve the very problem. They accessible. This is getting ugly. Stay tuned for our next episode. The third and final installment of Segue to X. or the year Bitcoin is will never forget. That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening I've got some exciting news for you. Open your calendars because militias lives i. ever life event will take place next month. The date is July. Twenty Ninth Twenty Twenty, and the time is twelve PM noon eastern time in the US that's nine am Pacific Time and five o'clock in the afternoon in London Again July twenty ninth twelve pm. Eastern time it will be an online oven naturally. 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Bottling up the placebo effect

Xtra Xtra Presented By VDG Sports

09:20 min | 5 months ago

Bottling up the placebo effect

"Welcome to extra extra. Sports I'm your host Vince Douglas Gregory. Filter the recent or. You can you can. But I won't you can. But I won't. Or you can just follow. Sports on twitter. De. Sports Follow vity sports on twitter at De Sports and some other ones too but. I'm not here for that. You're not here for that. No one's here for that. We're here for is we are here for this. Year I know. There's one thing. Here's one thing. Placebo effect if I could possibly bottle at in if I could bottle. Placebo effect because. Let's just say my. Trustee pillows my trustee pillows they aren't what I expected to be. They aren't what I thought they would be. In fact. I thought they were providing me the best the best. Sleep. I thought there was providing me at least some decency at least the first couple of days. Yeah it was there. I can't I can't tell it to you. I cannot tell a tale the first couple of days it was their. Comfort. The Nice sleeping the dreams everything that you could possibly be wish for. While sleeping that is while sleeping and definitely not being aware why sleeping and not being aware all of the things that you could possibly dream of. It was there the first couple of days it was there for me Then let's just say. Things Change. Things. Changed. A week went by. Another week went by. And then The real real the real rule like the real real facts that it happened. Through a real facts happen the placebo effect wore off which I think. I think was a placebo effect. because. Since those couple weeks since the beginning since. I I. I got the pillows since I. I got the pill. Tokyo. Was One all I needed was one in. It was love all I needed was one. Any was wait for. Amazing an amazing. My favorite were. It was amazing. It was everything that possibly hoped for everything that I could possibly dream of when I'm wide awake everything. Dan. Reality hit me and I don't necessarily like the fight I don't necessarily like the fight reality especially. because. ME IN REALITY WE HAVE A. We have a unique relationship. We have a unique friendship we have this unique bon bon. And I try to. I try to. Avoid it. As little was possible I. Try to avoid reality as little as possible I try to stay within it I tried to stay around it I tried to do all things just gonNa keep me in reality because. It's reality. It's real. I can always go elsewhere get always do the other things inside my mind's eye. The fantasy and there are net tried the fantasy. What was it sports, despondency teams, and all of that try that been there done that one. Yeah. But thing. I try to stay close to reality even though reality punch me in the face with this. It's okay. You can't win them all it is okay. I just don't like winning all the time. Did you something about winning all the time I have to advocate take a nail at least once at least once. A year. At least once a year 'cause we're taking a once a year if I'm not taking l. once a week, once a month at least once. Day. They. Date for finance. If I'm not taken one if I'm not getting it, how am I learning how my growing a? You can't learn without an AOL. Really. You can't. It's that simple. Believe me is not you know? There's a button right there. You probably can't see it but trust me. I'm looking down at the button. It's right there. It's the I believe button just go ahead, breakout your ugly but meaning just go ahead and PRESI president a couple of times I believe I believe I believe. It is what it is in its manny being manny in his always know what New Jersey good. I wish I could bought a placebo effect. I. Wish I could because these first couple of weeks these first couple a days everything was all too good everything was love everything was. Z. An. Amazing is my. Favorite who. WHO Amazes my favorite word. Then, the next couple of weeks happen or the next week happen in reality. Reality came in. It hit me. A few times. In the face. And I have a broken nose don't have a broken jaw eating Bat Joslin made of glass or anything like that. Butler's you say it hurt it really hurt. Hurt the EGO. superego. May Be about this. If if if he did I'll comeback in I'll let you know. Granite I'm still not going to go as far as saying rain check because there's just something about the rain checks moving forward that I just can't do something about the range chicks moving forward is just it's Outta my hands and both my hands are any air. It's Outta my hands cannot do the rain checks anymore. Maybe. Can't do it can't do the rain tech's there's so much going on. There's so much happening. There's so much focus on someone to be concentrated on keeping up we're trying to understand brigger out. We're all the rain shakes are. New has them. That'd be. That'd be extremely. Difficult to save the lease. I just want to bottle up this placebo effect. I just want this placebo effect. Just Nice. A drink of it. A snippet of it. A Cubal a Cuba. Just. Give me. It in some form some fashion because. It doesn't cost anything it's free. And, it's mind over matter. It's the placebo effect. Because, if I could bottle right up if I could somehow figure out how to get this placebo effect. Bottled up let's just say this. It'd be a lot cheaper either be a lot easier. It would be it'd be everything everything that I could possibly dream of. because. It costs nothing. It costs nothing at all. And the pillows that magically worked didn't work. They were still work. What. Am I talking about the pillows probably still work? I just have to figure out a better way to sleep at night or. Realized is way too many things is keeping me up at night.

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021420 Total Recall

Ace and TJ

26:16 min | 1 year ago

021420 Total Recall

"Somewhere out there. There's a man on a park bench eating his five hundredth. Pb AND J. He has no idea papa. John's has new PADEAS. That are way better than a boring sandwich with Papa. John's best meats cheeses and veggies hand folded into crispy flat bread crust tone. Better tell that man get a new poverty in four flavors for just six bucks better ingredients better pizza better than a Sandwich Papa. John's now what this country is in Texas at your prices. May Vary Ason. Tj's breaking and entering. Christmas twenty thousand could not have been as awesome without the support of kids. I to the Carolinas the more information on how you can support them with cash or material donations. I of the Carolinas Dot Org every day. Second by second minute by minute. Hour by hour time goes by taking this farther and farther away from those memories of the past. Do you remember remember that time? Remember when now you don't have to remember because we do. This is the Ason. Tj totally call. There are things that happen to people. There are things that people believe their ways. That lives are changed all because of your looks. Even if you're pretty today we venture into the land of pretty girl punishment as we step into the time machine for total recall. You never heard of that before because we created it. You're pretty girl punishment coming up today. Plus it's not a divorce because you hear all the time the vote. What'd you get the divorce? No it's what you get in the marriage and they're awesome plus we're gonNA take a look inside my refrigerator it's ace's stocked fridge. I remember three years ago. I was living all alone in an apartment after a divorce for a couple of years. So yeah it's It's going to be well worth your time to hang around for that today but we get started by finding out about your disguise today on Total Rico acing. Tj's total recall. Podcast talking about people having disguises this picture that's gone viral with the weekend of a girl who went on a first date and her friend shows up in the restaurant wearing a hoodie. Dark glasses and fake mustache. She didn't ask her to she. Just did a picture of her posted it and it's gone viral over the weekend but Presi why somebody has to disguise. Who's got one who's in one right now with. Lucy welcomed the TJ show. So are you. Are you on a stakeout? Right now it yes sir. I am okay. Can I don't know how much you can say about this? Can we say what it is you're doing? I am presently sitting in my car and I am supervising transaction. Okay so you are undercover Police I'm a plainclothes police academy student student. Oh we'll get a real cop on the phone choking. Just kidding I'm all in I'm all into this. Is it a. Can you say whether it's a drug or prostitution exchange? It is either the two and doug going cap and I am not allowed to say. Okay Captain Morgan. Just curious did you have to ask the captain if you could talk to us on the Radio Yeah. I just I put on hold on. I just call them any say that I can suppose no information on my name. Nothing so that's good careful. Cool and how many. How many others around there are six plane coast? We felt wanting deputy from okay But technically I and I'm I have an unmarked car. So what's the big drop to work every day in an unmarked vehicle? So they're how close are you to the action I mean are you Are there layers? Are you like I left side building? Okay Hey let us here you crack off a shot just chewed up in the air but hey thank you very much. This is very interesting that you would. You would let us in on that. That's awesome thanks. How far away from the transaction? Are you timing wise? You think it's going to go down here pretty quick. I'm hoping that things inside too quickly. But we're expecting something within the next forty five minutes. Okay we're GONNA put you on hold and we're GONNA monitor this. Will it be on the news? The news is not going to be on the next guy that they wanted to know right now all right. Nice I love this crazy. WanNa say where he is or anything so we don't know I think we do. Oh Yeah let's Klitschko. Let's go. Hey thank you very much. It was very cool of you to call. So what is your? Can you tell us what your disguise is at the moment Currently I'm wearing gave false cap. Which is something we use for people with extinguishing features such as blonde hair or colored. Hair use a fault cap which is basically nothing more than a synthetic leather that you appear to be fall and wished retaped on mustache that I really don't now that's awesome. Well good let me say in and thanks for doing what you doing. Hey would you. Maybe later today to shoot us an email or a facebook message or something is that just let us know how this turns out if you would so we can see what happens tomorrow. Is that okay? That's that's your business. Yeah keep your eyes on what you're supposed to be watching and listening to you and stay alert. What could it be? So what did you say? It's not drugs and it's it's it's not drugs. Prostitution could be stolen. Stolen items. Could be weapons trafficking weapons now that would follow him to prostitution human trafficking. Okay I don't know man. I'm past humans and traffic every day with my own mark vehicle. I thought about you. This warranty that was mentioned that Lindsay Lohan has offered to sing again and to do the Little Mermaid. Well that's like big deal it's like Tj always point that he offers to play center field for the braves they just haven't taken the Ason. Tj totally call podcast. She is sharing the situation of a family member of hers. We were talking about the whole. You may the mayor the mayor of the mountain. Whatever kind of thing where you take the entire family or DJ's example was the best friend is almost like your your wife or husband and the best friend is a package deal and this lady says they're twins twin girls to twenty twin. And when I'M GONNA take their names out of it because she's told us everybody's name but when twin a and her now husband got together twin be moved out years have passed since twin be moved out one now. Twin be still occasionally shows up at the house where the couple live. Just stay for the weekend with her child because her philosophy is quote. It was my house I I think. Twin sisters should be allowed to be together as much as they want. But donate your house when you move out. You don't just show up because this the twin a and her husband have created a life their. That's their house now. It's different though with twins so different with twins. I have girlfriends that are twin sisters and they made sure their homes are next to each other so if they both were backing out of their driveway at the same time their cars would run into each other and like they walk out of the house wearing the same clothes all the time quinton their husbands even work together. How that's how connected they. Twins are scary. It's awesome it's weird. I mean they even do like the school drop off together like their kids are different schools now but they just ride around together. Have the same car. But if everybody's cool with their cold and that's fun I on the other hand would not be I mean and one of the things is because I'm so much of an individual I believe in individuality. I don't like you know. I don't like people who voluntarily give up their individuality. Twins is a different story. If you're low kids and then your parents address you just alike and you have to do everything but once you get to be an adult. I don't say I'm not saying don't be so close with your twin. But don't you know you can have your own identity and that's to me. That's why I don't like always having to go in on group gifts for people like women do. Why can't we get them something ourselves? Why can't we get because this way we can all pull our money? Give them something nicer. They're what I don't care about that. Let's get them some the nice anyway if we care enough about him to be giving them again. Why don't we get them to something? Nice this I hate this is from Tj Jodi. Why does it have to be so big because most of the time? You don't even get credit for that if there are too many people throw in my own. WanNa gets credit for the one that delivers it. Or does the LEGWORK on and I'm looking for credit Jodi probably did the legwork on it if it's a group gift for A guy in a big group of couples know. Jodi usually doesn't do the legwork on that my friend Tommy does that and he gets all the credit And then If it's a group gift for women. Jody will a lot of times. Do the legwork on that and there are no men around when they get. The gifts of the men rarely get thanked for their contribution to the big group. Gift Jody's friends. She has a couple of friends that will recognize that. And then they'll send me. Hey thank you for my birthday gift. Thank you for this or whatever and then that. Attach a bottle of Captain Morgan. Or so you know. She has a couple of them that recognize. That of never gotten anything from that. Nail TECH GETS A gift every time she turns around Heather. Heather and here I'm kidding she's very sweet but still I mean it's to my money. Jodi ME MONEY ON AC- welcome Lucy and boom. You're there so wait. You admit you're the one that's the problem in this relationship because you go with your family over your husband. Yes for give us the most extreme example I was pregnant. It was a very difficult pregnancy and my parents were over at the house. My husband's at work and my dad basically convinced me to go ahead and do that day or a couple of days later instead of waiting like my husband and I had originally cited so your husband just comes home and you say. Hey Dad convinced me. Today I'm going to be I'm going to be in and we're GONNA and and did you see section I well. We ended up having a C. Section. Yeah Glove. Thanks for your husband. Is Your your baby but I made the decision with my dad. So how did he handle that not very well? She's two and a half years old. It's still it's still mighty when sometimes because you know what you know what that told him. That told him that. He's not the man in your life. Your Dad is and we have that discussion discussion and there. I've I've been better since that was the tipping point after that happened better but it was even to the point where my my dad and my mom were even part of sticking our House. They were part of us. You know if something breaks we call my Dad. And he's he's five minutes down the road. Though right in a lot of times you look at that and go well. It only makes sense. He could fix it. He's right there but it says signal sends that signal to your husband and he's not capable of taking care of you. Yeah and I have repeatedly apologize. It's bad you sound cues points. Yeah I mean I know it's me I know it's my fault it's something I'm working on the bill but my whole family we live. I mean my mom. My aunt my grandparents were all within about a five mile radius each other now. We're his his parents. His Dad is here in Boon His his mom is in Raleigh right. So what if what if he needed something. Instead of consulting you went to his mom. You don't like him C. Data right okay. Your parents there. You've always turn to for Advice Gut's but you know what you sound like. It is working now so cool and again you sound cute so you got those points as well so here is a lot of weight. Thanks thank you get that baby. Total recall pretty girls being punished for being pretty. What is your pretty girl punishment coming up plus a few minutes inside aces stock to free. That's right it's all happening next on. Total Rico. Tj's total recall podcast. This is the total recall. Podcast subscribe nowadays. Tj Dot com the TJ APP. Or through I heart radio more of the total recall podcast after this. Hey it's going and I WANNA make sure you know about the Hampton Inn and suites South Park and the completely renovated lobby fitness and breakfast areas. Just call seven three one nine fifty seven hundred to book your reservation or newly designed conference room that seven. Oh four three one. Nine fifty seven hundred. 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Podcast apparently pretty girls on the radio family being punished all over the place for being pretty lady says her pretty punishment is that she has been a restaurant manager for years. Guests will ask to speak to a manager and people. Don't take me seriously when I told them I'm the manager. I wanted to deal with crisis issue because I'm more attractive than they say. Expect and look a little younger than my age. I'm thirty nice be strong girl. Yep She's right. She is tricked. You would do a double take if you ask to speak with the manager and she said. Yeah you got me. I don't I don't think the manager I would think the manager would be attractive. That's how she got to be the manager. That's a joke. I'm kidding about that. I was just joking. I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't think the manager one way or the other would be attractive unattractive at a restaurant or any business. Okay then occur to me. This girl says just because she's five eleven and fit her pretty punishment is she's can't make friends was and still is difficult to make girlfriends in college to ease my way. I wouldn't buy H my roommate's a gift the first day in dorms now my only real girlfriends or from a gym same goals nine intimidated etc yup and that tall to at five eleven that can be intimidating to other people Incompetent here's what it says. Her pretty punishment is a professor. Didn't take your seriously despite my good grade his class. He really thought I was an idiot. I ended up getting book published while I was his student and he asked me in front of the entire Lecture Hall when he found out when he found out. If it was a picture book that could have been just a joke. Though that you know a lot of times the pretty girls may be mistaking A guy or being flirty with them as insulting you know like that that could have been a flirty kinda joking around not probably not from her liberal college professor though because they don't have a sense of humor about anything but other people could have could have done that. When lady here says the professor shouldn't be making thirty jokes with one of its students why they're both adults. I'm sure there are rules about that. Well there rules about it with Boston. Underlings to glad you recognize talked about bree welcomed the courage rewarded. So pretty. What is your. What is your pretty punishment? Well I am a telling Jer. I actually like to go out on calls. Go on toes with the guys. I will go work a record coverage anytime I show up naturally. Oh you're going to do this but aside from that I find good drivers and I can't keep him because they don't want them working with the wives make the drivers quit. I've had them make their husbands quick. I've had them come in and go to my boss above me and say I'm not allowed to speak to the driver and in that situation I mean I have to dispatch called out to them. It's Kinda hard to not be Jin hours. Basically Yeah I. Dispatcher is over the drivers they tell them where calls are where they need to go what they need to do. Just that sort of thing but I mean. That's what a dispatcher does. I mean because you you're the one with the radio and they got the other radio but I mean are you the boss of them like you could fire them. If you wanted to know I could persuade compression and buzzing right but review not the boss of them then no. I'm not act like you are don't you? I don't like I am I. Just I'm just kidding you blur. Girls can't be boss. They gotTA BE BOSSY. She's gorgeous. I was just see now. Is the flirting with her? That's what I do tournament fury this. This lady says keep me anonymous but when you spend two hundred dollars on very tasteful Lou Leroux L. U. L. A. Roi. Yeah let's Lou limit. Okay now are Lula Lula road leggings and get to wear them to work. Once before an email is sent out to all female employees that no Leroux leggings are allowed to be worn. Ooh And I will also add. They were very tasteful and the shirt warm with them was long and covered everything as it should so and knowing that you're not allowed to wear certain clothing because the people who make the rules are just jealous because they can't pull it off. Yeah would you automatically assume? That's a pretty thing she she seemed to believe. It's because of the The ladies in the office thing she. They can't look as good as she does. Too casual a lugging with a printout. It could be deemed. Not Professional enough. Depends on what you do for a living. I don't know the office environment I know. But that's what I'm saying. So they automatically assume because they're two pretty some would have said because they're They're expensive and you make the other people who can't afford feel bad. They're they're only like others. Was Av name the brand though? Like that You know say you're not allowed to wear whatever Like my wife carrying those armoured. Whatever person's one on each arm somebody make? What do they call your master or Mason? Yeah like the. She may not need to if she worked. Bring that into the office because it makes the other women feel bad. She must use her whole check but then again. If you go by that rule you. She wouldn't be able to allow be allowed to put a picture of me on her. This not fair to the other ladies say can't have something good is the ace and TJ. Total recall podcast. There's good news for me today when I go home because my mom was here and she just left yesterday. That's not the good news. The good news is I mean I have followed by food. 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461  The Year of the Sex Olympics

Fusion Patrol

1:15:08 hr | 11 months ago

461 The Year of the Sex Olympics

"We take a single episode of Science Fiction TV series and over analyze it to within an inch of its life this is the fusion patrol podcast. Welcome to the discussion. Hello and welcome to another episode of Petroleum Gene Simon. And tonight we're going to be looking at the nineteen sixty eight Nigel kneale. Bbc Tele play the year of the Sex Olympics. I'm looking forward to having you pull out of this one. Okay in a future sooner than you think. The world is divided into two groups. The elite high drives live in apathy control and the low drives the masses who live outside those in control. Spend their time living a luxurious life and providing televised media programming designed to keep the masses docile and apathetic nat is the producer of the top rated daily show sports sex a program of live sex nat is having a sexual relationship with Mitch. The hostess of the program in addition to producing the live broadcast of the programme nats duties also require that he screen the potential contestants for the program. This is a big year for Nat as it will soon be the time for the sex. Olympic's program he will be in charge of coordinator Hug. The controller of programming comes to visit. He's from the old days and he remembers why they do what they do. In the old days they used to prevent things from getting on television something. They called censoring then. They learned that by showing things people may do and didn't do those things in short sex is not to do. Sex is to watch the birth rate of the overpopulated. Planet started plummeting. It's an important job that they do keeping the world cool. The latest computer assessment of Nat indicates things so good as not as cool as he should be wants to help but net can't quite express why he feels the way he does. He literally hasn't the words forty to forty five sexual partners ago. Net used to be with Dini who now runs a program called the hungry angry show where people eat and throw food at each other which keeps food consumption down amongst the low drives. Dini has concerns about their daughter. Ketan now nine years old children reared in nurseries but parents sometimes visit. Vini thinks that Ketan may have been identified as a low drive and may be cast out. Dini also has a current sexual partner. Kin The men who does the drapes on the art sex show do? Congra- warning Kin Really. Does the drapes get your mind out of the gutter? He's deeply troubled and wants to do pictures. Pictures that make you hurt. Nat is fascinated with the idea of a picture that can hurt and agrees to see kipnes work. Meanwhile hug has a new mandate down from the computer. The low drives need something. More computer thinks they need to laugh. So all programs are retooled. Even sports sex art sex to include humor the initial efforts. Don't go well. Ken shows his picture. To Nat and mich- they are horrible distorted drawings of faces in pain nat cannot take his eyes off of them. Mitch however is repulsed by them. Net knows they can never be shown to the low dries and he tells Ken to give it up. Ken cannot though he is driven to convey his feels to the people so he breaks into the sports studio during broadcast and attempts to lower himself down in front of a camera and show his pictures security chases him and he falls to a horrible death on camera. The audience loves it. Because it's funny. Something bad happens to someone else not them another case of watching not doing laser the clearly ambitious sub producer sports sex suggests that maybe that's the angle they need people watching random things happened other people net comes up with the idea of putting a few people on an island with no contact with the outside world and broadcasting what they do twenty four seven. Dini distraught over Kim's death volunteers to go nat agrees to go to. Perhaps this is the answer to the yearning. He's had it will be called the live life. Show Denia net. Take Kevin with them so that they can form something that used to be called family on the island they have a hut with no modern conveniences wild sheep and rabbits minimal supplies and seeds to get them started and self-destructing guidebook to help them along their first couple of weeks. They also have a camera in the ceiling of their hut which broadcasts continually the family begins to bond but then they find growls and Betty in their hut they are inhabitants from the other side of the NAT feels betrayed by controlling is upset but Dini suggests they could learn a lot from people who already know how to survive and eat on the island. August concerned that laser has broken the deal with that laser. Explains I'm just setting the scenery. It's a show stuff's got to happen back on. The island grills teaches nap to catch crabs. Paul he's gone can falls and seriously injures herself. Dini doesn't impromptu job of sewing her wound shut but they have. No knowledge of medicine can had been scared by something which we learn was betty trying to muster up the courage to come warn them about grills nat now outrage that the interference of having others on the island destroys the watching. I in their hut. He does not know that. There are other hidden cameras laser remarks. They think the show is ended. Now it has just begun. Control is ecstatic with the audience. Reaction Fear and worry. The audience are eating it up because they can experience it without it happening to them. Laser things soon. They'll get to experience grief to next morning. They find a strangely docile grill sleeping on their doorstep. Explains that Betty is dead. Perhaps she fell getting eggs. They run him off believing he had something to do with her death. Back at control. This is confirmed. Grills is a psychopath who was put into exile twelve years ago when he killed someone during auditions for the Sex Olympics. If only that murder had been televised. They have known about this breakthrough in television twelve years earlier. Grills gets a temporary since of peace. After Kill but control knows. You'll soon be coming back for more murder. Kevin Dies of the infection Dini and that in particular struggle with understanding grief. He feels it but he cannot understand it. They bury captain in while they're out. They suspect grills is nearby. Net Goes Defensive Incense Dini back to the hut but inside grills waiting for her he bolts the door shut and begins killing her net. Desperately tries to break the door down and when he does he brutally murders girls with an axe. The audience is over the moon with excitement. When grails dead NAP turns to Dini and discovers that she too is dead? His grief is unconsolable. The audience appreciation is at a peak and lasers triumph of television is complete only controller. Ugh stands in horror screaming. He still alive I'm going to. I'm going to just start here with a little little Preface that we're probably going to talk about a couple of things that people have identified and I think a pretty obvious of the prescience of of some of the stuff in this writing by Nigel meal. But I don't think people have identified that this ban also must have invented click bait because there are no sex Olympics in this show. Oh but the title makes you go well and I'm willing to bet that when I post this episode of the podcast because I do see some people don't like battle star Galactica. Some people don't like space nineteen ninety nine. This is A. This is a danger that I've always known about on on this. Podcast is some shows are more popular than others and so our listenership actually goes up and down based on what show episode which amazes me because I just download every episode very podcast. I listen to I may not listen to it but at least they at least all come down to my pie catcher. But I'm willing to bet that the year of the Sex Olympics is going to go up just from the name alone and that's just going to say right now i. I've always been aware of this problem that you may not be listening to every episode of the show but but I do this for artistic purposes. Not For Ratings. Just going out there right now anyway. So what did you think of this interesting one off BBC piece by by the Great Nigel? Kneale YOU DO. So yes. Well you do this for artistic reasons and not for ratings very much the kind of the mission of Kind of statement of what Nigel Kneale is about. Perhaps in terms of this is really quite a sort of vicious and critique of the kind of television that I mean is. It is quite rightly commented on extraordinary prescience in terms of the rise off reality or so-called reality television but that wasn't what he was targeting. I guess I mean he was going below browse stuff. But that isn't what lowbrow stopped looked at looked like at the time. No I'm I think perhaps it's reasonably. Well no Nigel. Neil on the BBC towards the end didn't get along there was a the. Pbc at the time he was brought onto right. This didn't get along correct. Correct he He felt he'd gotten shafted with the equator mass. Which was I guess one of the BBC's first unequivocable hit drama series. That just really shot them through. And I think he got sixty pounds or something bonus for it and he was he was but salty about it and he had become increasingly upset with the BBC about ratings versus art and his treatment as a as an artist and He he turned down doing this and they came back and the control of the BBC got him some sort of a bonus like three thousand pounds for his equator mass work which was years before because he was feeling so slighted and they wanted him to come back and right and he wrote this essay giving him nothing for the film rights pretty much yeah. Yeah and that's right. They gave him nothing. They sold the film rights and he got nothing for that and he wasn't happy and I don't think he was happy with the results of the films and I mean all sorts of all sorts of reasons that he was not happy with the BBC. Something's magnetically unhappy. Many things make him unhappy and seems well But this makes his the artist he is well. I guess I guess I mean this is this is. This is the Director General Consensus Hugh Green which is important in other respects but the the the kind of the art that in sex Olympics is is being championed for one of a better word by Hodder I guess Represents the idea of actually something some creative work having actual merit because it creates a reaction challenge? Response is challenging indeed. Okay go ahead go well in that in that in that respect I think Nigel. Kneale Louis is looking looking. I mean something like Nineteen eighty-four or regard as being of artistic merit and I mean we know he admired because he wrote the screenplay he wrote indeed and and on the other hand something like doctor who he would consider to be going just mindless entertainment keeping keeping the masses apathetic. Yes yes yeah. Absolutely I what I was going to try to interject there I am and maybe we can talk a little further about it. But a couple of names in this program kin kin hotter kinsman the kinsmen of the writer. It's like this is this is mate what he say in the show and the director of the controller of the BBC. Ugh control a caveman. Who who just cares about what the computers tell him in the ratings and he doesn't see what's happening coming up below from laser agai so perfectly focused on the ratings and the rail. I mean those are does are pretty on the nose names. I cannot figure out what net and Dini if anything have any bearing on unless they're just normal people but but those three in particular dislike it it has to be commentary. He has to be being making comments. There yeah I mean it's not it's it's brought it's brought but it's as as we've said it's it's remarkable how how accurately he depicted the direction that TV was going in and low. It may look obvious. In retrospect I guess it probably wasn't something was apparent to everyone at the time and I think back to twenty five years ago. I mean we are talking about show that was made fifty years ago Quite remarkable twenty five years ago so twenty five years after it was made. We were looking at Japanese game. Shows that we're all about doing eating insects and doing all sorts of disgusting acts on camera rent payment and clips of that were being shown on the clive. James Show we were all laughing at how how how the Japanese would just scream this stuff and pass it for entertainment and they love to Cashiers Castle to passed in twenty five years following. We've we've seen all the rest of it all of the. I'm a celebrity. Get me out of here stuff in the jungle which isn't survived. Quite sure is the light show but do they have survivor over there. That one of the shows survivor. I I'm aware of I haven't I mean that's just put them on talent and hard to think his someone maybe get the idea from watching the live life show. The similarities with big brother are so extraordinary. It seems remarkable. That took its name from all well rather than Neil also big brother came from Norway. Sweden Norway did it. First and then Britain licensed it to do there. I thought it was Holland Choral Holland. It could be Holland was it was one of those sorry countries in that part of Europe. Well NO I. I could be entirely wrong. I do remember I do remember watching the first episode and the extraordinary thing about big brother at the time was that it was at least here in the UK it was being made and broadcast by Channel Four. Which for those who don't know the networks and we have over here is a public service. Broadcaster publicly owned broadcaster so it has a slightly different green it from the more commercial channels like channel five now who are basically about making making profit for the shareholders and therefore chasing ratings as part of that and so the way that this was presented in the UK was that it was in some way a social experiment that was some kind of academic merit putting people and you can laugh but obviously they knew what they were about was entertainment but what they were what they were suggesting was. Wouldn't it be interesting because nothing has ever been done like this before palm from in Holland Norway wherever it was where you actually literally put cameras on the people for twenty four hours a day and watch everything they do exactly like the live live show and since then reality television has basically been seen as being cast in the mold of Big Brother? I would kind of argue actually. That was the end of the reality TV reality. Tv was the kind of very documentaries where fly on the wall stuff to the hospital watch staff or the kind of a driving school nonsense whereas big brother is basically a game show so well. I was just I was just going to finish my saying so is the live life. Show the game show in the sense. That the kind of suspense element brother. Interactive is that you vote off someone until you have a winner and in the live life. Show you kill. We'll get killed off until you have a winner who is essentially the last person surviving. So I don't I'm GonNa say that must have been big brother must have been nineteen ninety nine ninety ninety nine when it was on in Britain. And I'll explain that in a second but but prior to that I remember when the the European one came out and they had a a website where they had live feeds to some of the cameras. At the time which you know back then so let's say ninety eight thous- not as common as perhaps it came to be and I can remember tuning into that a couple times thinking. This is both weird and oddly. It's almost like a car accident and it wasn't about people arguing it wasn't about it wasn't about anything like that. It was just. It was the the idea of watching other people without them. Knowing you were watching them it said well. They didn't know I personally was watching them right. So I mean that that's the difference fair enough the difference between that you know. It's like these these people sitting at this table talking in a language. I don't understand don't realize guy in Arizona sitting here looking at you and that's a I don't WanNA use the word compelling because that's not quite what it is but it's there's a fascination to it like okay. That's that's weird. There's no value here. There is nothing I am watching of any value whatsoever and yet you know occasionally you'd popping in tuning about what's happening over there. Well nothing I now and I don't know enough about the the European big brother other than that because it was in a foreign language that I don't speak and it was something that you weren't on TV and this is something you pop into once in a while as it happens when my wife and I went to Britain to go to do the millennium stuff while it was still up which is why no it must have been one thousand nine hundred nine now. I thought that's when they tore it. Now they were originally going to tear it down on two thousand nine hundred. Whatever the year was that they they are there when you came over here for. I've just been checking was broadcast in the UK from March. Two Thousand Kinda must've earlier and had already been shown in the Netherlands by the time it had to be because it was on it was one of the shows. We actually watched sitting in our hotel room in London. A An episode or two so sometime after March two thousand well. It was definitely July August when we were there so because of the time of the year. So yeah and it makes premiered in July July. Yeah it was very it was very new and I remember you know because you could understand what was going on and it was pretty mundane except for and British viewers will know the name. Nasty Nick who was the guy who was basically trying to cheat on the show and And at the time perhaps foolishly and I don't know that this has ever been proven one way or the other or even accused. It would never occur to me that he wasn't just doing that because he was a jerk or that. Maybe it had been planned by the producers and I think that's another piece of this reality. Tv Show not only do they see the rise of reality TV in this program put on an island and let's see if people will watch it. Yes they will but they also saw the idea of the producer stirring up the ants nest to make better television it it. It's it's amazing that without having conducted that experiment Nigel. Kneale has come up with step one and then without seeing the actual results of people doing this also came up with step two which was starting to manufacture drama on the program. And because basically whatever I saw on the European version of it nobody was manufacturing any drama there far as I can tell like it was. It was pretty much people sitting around talking. Always just you know. There were no fights no those slap fast snow just of course the language barrier may be. Maybe that's how they do that. But I'm I'm just I'm amazed. I'm truly amazed at the at the foresight on on this show. Yeah Yeah So. Let's let's look at the other end of this. This is the television for the lowest common denominator so the the BBC at one point was live TV and by nineteen sixty eight the BBC was probably not at all live TV. Except maybe news programs right. I I don't think very much in the way of drama or at least would have been live five thousand nine hundred sixty nine news programs maybe south but yeah sources things alive even today but it's it's a it's a form of drama production born out of necessity and it obviously has its pitfalls because basically you're doing theater. It's just that you can do it from different camera angles. Can you imagine and writer in this case Neal's situation and I'm an? I am obviously trying to interpret his line of reasoning. You you do a work you put the workout the BBC commissions apiece thing it's very popular the BBC Changes. Perhaps what they choose to commission for the next show. Perhaps they're not. They were not supposed to. I think they were supposed to be truly eric driven programming. But you know if you put up during programming and no one is watching. There's no point in spending the money to put out program that would be one argument but in that case so well. Television television was like a self adjusting. Course right they were they were. You put a show isn't they? Go Ahead. There's no doubt about two in the sense that the reason that the reason that neal was asked to contribute this episode to the series was because quite a massive been such a success in the ratings. So we have is is it. I find it interesting. And maybe telling that all the programs we see our live in this when when in reality at the BBC at the time all these programs would not be live. They'd be they'd be studio made and recorded and broadcast and I think it's because of the that audience monitor like you only can go back to tweaking the show minute by minute. We got a tweet. Those ratings every second everything that they're seeing we've got a micromanage it to keep this at the optimum audience response so it's a it's another part of his you know kind of a slippery slope of what they're doing with the way they commissioned shows in the way they bring people in to to right and what they them to write in what what goes on the air. Could well what I think you could. You could see that in a couple of ways I mean one would be if if you if you look at the. At the time this was written it was a few years since the majority vast majority of drama. Tv drama would have been broadcast live at the very least recorded as live We know that. For example quite mass experiment was live and that was so wait a few years back. Well okay you but it's it's it's going to be something he's familiar with in it's a it's a it's a few years back. What was it late? Fifty S. I think late fifties. Yeah actually probably early. Isn't that's probably early fifties thinking about it. Because they were they were spoofing quite a mess on the goon show which only ran until nineteen sixty so and that was quite a mess in the pit. So okay we're going back early fifty but we know they were still doing stuff as live. Fifty live fifty fifty three but for example I series of the avengers a number of ourselves. We're live we know sixty one and we know that doctor who was being recorded as lying in sixty three. So it's it's the past but it's the recent past and so someone working in television. We very familiar with the idea. Stops one possible explanation the other the other way of looking at it the way? I think you're looking at it in the way again just shows how Presi Neal is is to think about some of the tech that is involved in stuff like TV election debates and all all the people in the spinning room looking at the world as you actually see the live audience reaction to your candidates performance. And it's a bit like that. I mean even now. It's not something that is actually that fast in TV entertainment but it is literally that fast when you're talking about political hustings in the life that's true that's true. I just this is just a a fascinating piece of work and I had to admit had to watch it twice because I found a lot of the dialogue. Difficult to understand I eventually whether it's the sound mix or whether it's the combination of the fact that that they're that they're British that they're putting on a funny were. Patois you know that that that jargon that they're speaking English well those first lines of Brian Cox's I thought he's doing an American accent too and and he's doing it really really badly. Yes that was my thought it wasn't it wasn't that. I mean in fairness to him he passes well to my ear as I guess. Maybe not the best air to judge. You know things like Jason born sounds perfectly American to me. Seen Him Jason. Born so I'm in the Adventure in space and time wasn't a hugely convinced by his Canadian. American accent there but but you know he was going to play. It would take to convince you than me but you know I'm perfectly. I rarely hear. American can pass a good British accent. But you can frequently here British. You can pass a acceptable American accent. Hugh Laurie for example actually comes pretty darn close. You know you know. It's not here when you listen to it. It's but it easily could be a dialect of somewhere up northeast. And you just. Yeah Right. Yep I'll take it within the range but anyway I also found the actual dialogue itself. The kind of his version of newspeak. I can't I can't help drawing parallels in the sense that really quite influenced by one thousand nine hundred four but it seemed to me that it was quite inconsistent because rather than it being about I think it was intended to be about vocabulary changes but actually that didn't an ad is certainly more difficult to put across. The screen plays in his inaugural. It didn't really seem clear to me quite POW. The language has changed whether it was internally consistent sometimes it seemed just normal to my ear and sometimes it seemed a bit like Caveman speak. Yeah I finally just put headphones on to listen to it so that the net helped a lot so I was listening to headphones anyway. So I I don't know about sound mix but I I will say I. I've only watched this once and and that CNN within the last twenty four hours and watching it my initial reaction to a lot of it was to focus quite a bit on the really very minor plot tolls and some of some of the sort of production issues but the nature of the production being was a production in nineteen sixty eight and since then in particular reading a bit about it and Reading Nancy Banks Smith especially my perspective on it has changed and so I I. I'm one of the things when I was actually it was I was. I found that. For example Tony Fobel's performance was very very mannered. And which honest Tony. Fogel playing NAT NAT. Okay Mr Youn abro got it and and I actually a number of them and big returners Boyce leave. Annoying is yes. It was having to listen to it through headphones. And all of the kind of generally speaking of the kind of wide eyed acting that was going. Okay well that goes back to nap character. Then 'cause he had nothing but wide eyed yet he was doing quite a lot of it but Dini a fair bit widening. The is I kind of feel like why. Why get watching this in two thousand eighteen on a on a laptop on a train and that's not important other than it's just it's a different world of way. Technology has changed the way we consume things and to compare this and this is one of the thing I mean Nancy. Banks Smith is the best television critic of all time bomb. None and so it was I. I couldn't find her original review of Year of the Sex Olympics but she reviewed it when it was first shown in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight and then later on she did a retrospective review of that but she also referred to when she move you the first broadcast of big brother and kind of do some of those obvious parallels and so that that kind of put me in thinking about what what must have been like watching it in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight. I mean the extraordinary power. This must have had then even if you didn't realize because and she and she says she didn't because she didn't know what would happen in subsequent years but even if you didn't realize how pressing into and then you're kind of reflection on it and how it changes over time in realizing that and obviously the the importance of it wasn't recognized at the time because otherwise they wouldn't have junked it yet another show that has got thrown away and we are left with just A. We're fortunate. There is anything at all but lucky for us that they found a copy of the black and white transcription presumably for that. He oversees transmission. Who what must have been like to see this real in color in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight? Yeah I really WanNa know what color all those people were. Because they're all obviously painted and I like all gold or are they all different colors or or they look. They look like some kind of shiny. I'll use but but but how psychedelic their cost you. And there's a cracking cracking. Nancy Banks Smith lying about the costumes. Not Not not that psychedelic aspects of the patterning on them. The fact that she said I it looks very much like Blake. Seven due to the wardrobe department ingrained conviction that men in the future where loud shirts but no trousers are wearing. Sort of long tunics. Aren't they yes so okay? I'm sure that your this is. This is interesting looking at it. In retrospect because this is another example of seeing a science fiction show. That was giving us a. Let's call it a warning and a warning. Not heated or a warning came to pass. And you've you have not seen this. I have no. I didn't see this until the last twenty four hours as well and this has been on our slate for for ages to do and we've just finally got around to it and it just never bubbled never bubbled to the top. And it's you know we. We cannot put our minds in the set of not living in the world where shows like big brother exists and so it. It's really hard to look at this as a warning and and think what other people do not carry. This is step extract this a little bit I'm reasonably sure but if I'm wrong correct me that as a person who who likes a good logical argument that you are probably very familiar with common logical fallacies Straw man and whatnot false equivalency. One of them is the slippery slope. Where you use something you mail you say something like If if we allow gay marriage pretty soon pedophile will just be able to do whatever they want to children and the next thing will be allowed to Mario Horse. Yes right there and then there's one that definitely has come up. I think I remember that one in Britain somewhere. Somebody's saying that but I the pedophile is one is when it comes up over here and that is not a valid form of argument you must you must address the you must address the argument based on the reality that exists on the ground. Not what you think might just go crazy but on the other hand there is this particular branch of science fiction that is exactly that it is the slippery slope branch of science fiction if we take it and we run it down the line to a a ridiculous and absurd upstream. That will never happen because this is science fiction we can do crazy stuff. It will show people. You know. This isn't what's going to happen but but you get the feel about the BBC controllers listening too much to to their ratings and the computers and the producers being too focused on the wrong thing and the when the artist screaming to get out in this fantasy. That will never happen. Because it's crazy and so I really don't know if I were watching this. I don't know that it would be as powerful in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight to me because I would just go okay. Why get what? He's saying yeah I get what he's saying. Obviously we're not going to be doing that. But but I get what he's saying and now again okay bye. We haven't quite got. We haven't quite got the pornography on there. But doggone we have game of thrones and we're pretty close regard. I mean I think if if anything thing that the thing that strikes you about this is that he almost didn't go far enough in terms of it being slippery slope argument. It doesn't feel like sick. We slowed sleigh parking because it feels like we're lower down the slope. Yeah in many ways. We don't necessarily have murder on the game shows yet but give it some time but I think the thing that I think the reason that it would be it. Would you'd have a different relationship with if you if you'd seen it fifty years ago. Maybe not maybe maybe having had more than twenty four hours to sink in is is because I'm already I'm already finding the way they're they're elements of it that I appreciate more because I'm not as busy now looking back on it thinking. Oh well that's not quite right or or some aspects of of it don't seem right because we have a reality to compare it to in the sense that the thing that we can argue about whether Neil was right or not about this but the thing that he has as an obsession with the audience is to do with overpopulation and therefore that the purpose of these shows is going to be about population control and some of the things that he suggests about the the whole what watch not do in vicariousness of it all in some ways seem very true but actually the ratings are not being driven because it's essential to least may Idaho. Maybe I need to think about this more but it's not essential to stop people from procreating and I say that I say that because it doesn't seem like the most efficient form contraception and also because the population has grown enormously. Since this was screen I mean absolutely exponentially but would just just to finish that so instead. He's about pursuing appetizing prophet. Which is mentioned by Neil in this? That's true that's true isn't mentioned at all What I was going to say is I think I'm not saying that. I'm have any experience in the generally speaking some people when they watch pornography it it gets the more in the mood rather than out of it. I I've heard I've heard that I mean I already of it but having having said that I seem to remember i. I can't quite dated to say whether there is any correlation with the kind of modern ubiquity of of so called reality. Tv But the British population is having less sex than it used to. There may be it is working but but but the bigger perspective on this show. I gaining even with those few distance. Is this sense that again. I'm going to quote bank Smith because she puts it so well because she said she didn't find it exceptional watching it at the time lot because she says many other things we're also exceptional but slowly though it has grown on me with icy fingers like Lichen on the thing in quite a mess. Yeah so I think it does stick with you. I mean it's kind of a lasting effect like nineteen eighty-four does feel. He definitely was a fan of nineteen eighty four and brave new world which he also apparently did a screenplay for never got produced and I think he drew heavily on it one. Obviously he drew heavily on it. But you know that's not that's not a crime by any stretch of the imagination you know. That's that's a very very good place to start off if you want to tell the tale and it is completely unique. Yeah I think it's interesting looking at nine. One thousand nine hundred four looking at some of the things that are quite different between them and some of the things that quite so for example the the whole idea in this is all about apathy and I guess there's some similarities in apathy but it's to avoid tension and part of that is war and those various things that arise when Pe- When people get extremely emotional law involved or angry or which have whatever feelings you want to attribute attribute the rise of these things whereas in one thousand nine hundred four. There is a war whether it's between Eurasia or East Asia or whatever it's all about fighting the war and it's about generate those feelings so you know things like the the the hate stuff and the chanting it at chanting it so supposed enemies of the state etc etc. So that whole idea is quite different. And I'm not really sure how feel about this idea of the high drive and the low drive stuff whether that was that works that rings true looking at it today. It is a little unclear. What exactly makes it. Hi Dr and low drive and we do have the sequence where kitten is pronounced low. Drive after they did some tests. So you know it's not. It's not high intelligence low intelligence. We just have to look at to know that. That's not the case well is it? Ambition may be. I mean it seems a bit like the eleven plus which obviously well maybe not obviously again for those who are not British of a certain age. The education system in the K. Used to be defined by an exam taken age. Eleven determined whether you go to a still publicly funded for more elite school called Grammar School or secondary modern which would be for everyone else and they they were replaced by comprehensive. But you know that that would have been something that Neil would have been writing about in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight. I would've been very relevant. Yeah that's true. That's true and that that would not come across for an American audience or we. We don't do that and to be fair. We don't do that anymore. Less we're in Kent Kent's called out for some reason. Yeah well yeah politics politics. Would that be considered conservative politics? Going back to the old ways it. It's certainly our current prime minister assuming that she's still prime minister out of this goes. There is always hope by no means a certainty has said she's in favor of increasing the number of grammar school. But it's certainly been a very contentious thing. A lot of policies advanced by governments of both colors in the past. Gosh at least thirty years have have been quite closely examined for signs of whether they are trying to reintroduce some form of selection because inevitably well off middleclass parents are always trying to get that kids into the best schools in that. That kind of that. Basically allows the system to perpetuate so those those who have are able to pass on what they have to them and they're kind even if it's not based on. Merit. Oh you Save Them. And they're kind is if it's not you well. Sh- I okay. This is getting complicated and I'm not going to discuss education here but suffice it to say I didn't I didn't spend all my as a comprehensive. So that's fair comment the point the point here is that what we got is too high drives who are basically assumed. That daughter will be a high dry. But who are you find that she is in fact a low drive and only then? Does that caused them to question the system. And I kind of think that probably Neal's point probably but I'm not sure about this whole idea that the audience the kind of mass audiences made up of low drives. I'm not sure what that in itself is. He's supposed to suggest other than reinforcing. This idea which I do does make sense to me. I do quite like if the audience is being very much Very much a passive player in all of this and what they're doing is watching the people as a proxy for doing themselves and not obviously applies to the section picks but it also applies to the angry hungry show and just just life itself it counts as a form of displacement and it's absolutely true. I mean he's on he's on the button. I don't know how much you is. True at nine hundred sixty eight but it is absolutely true. The amount to which people will invest themselves in stuff that has nothing to do with themselves and what I got. A risk of sounding like a snow pit is completely inconsequential stuff. I do not like any of the LUV island slept big brother and all the rest of IT I. It's no interest to me and yet people people somehow managed to become massively involved in it. And I know that's not because I know the poor hours of my life into thinking about doctor who and the vast rather than doing something much more creative and I think back to again in the first twenty five years after this show and at my childhood there was TV program for kids called. Why don't you and it was all about. Why don't you turn the TV off? That was it's tight the irony of it being on why didn't you turn the TV off and go and do something else because because there was this questioning of TV is this massive sunk into which attention and energy and all the rest of it report instead of instead of it being about creativity and about unlocking the kind of potential because actually surely doesn't suit certain political classes and we all to how this populace with it is lantern. Indeed and we call it the BOOB tube. Same indeed same thing I mean we. We've always known this and yet it is still there and it is still very compulsive. I wanted to ask how. How do you think this if it does or have any reflection on the old Roman idea bread and circuses? Yes yes as I yeah I mean I very similar except if I correct and I don't have a classical background in my in my Roman So gentle but that's as you give them food on entertaining that's an accident. There they're go- they're golden and here in this world. They're not even getting the food and the eating some but they're trying to cut the food consumption down by making them watch people fro- and I'm not making this up. Krill custard each other. I did I loved the credits to all of those players down as custard pie experts nonetheless. The guys that were in the comedy show though. Oh Yes yes. Sorry in your your talking about the hungry hungry. The hungry I don't understand that show and I hate to say this but I feel like at least figure out the be able to figure it out but there were throwing food at each other. 'cause they're angry they didn't appear to be eating it. I can't explain it but continues. It makes me feel like I feel when I watched lots of actual current day reality. Tv shows where. I have no idea what is supposed to be about kind of slightly hypnotic. I'd have been fine with it if we hadn't asked Dini well. How do you know who ate the most? And she's put scales underneath them like. Who's nobody denying any of it? They're not eating any of that food. They're just collecting it on their bodies. I demanded this show buffet. Ext. I'm not GonNa Watch another episode of the hungry angry show. They don't come up with a clear set of rules for me to fall. I'll go ahead. You sound like I was getting I was going to keep coming back to the nineteen eighty-four parallels because it seems to me one of the things that is very similar is so okay. Nigel Nigel. Kneale is is there is. There is another difference. I think perhaps in east having a go at ironically given how opposed to this being made Mary. Whitehouse was and this. This of course is where do you back in so Mary? Whitehouse was chair of something called the viewers and Listeners Association which basically looked after the eternal souls of the viewership by making sure that they were not shown things that were ungodly and obviously something called year. The sex in it picks which does indeed includes nudity and onscreen sex and so on and as you say pretty mild by the standards to the point where you're calling. It clicked late but Hugh Hugh Green. Those digi was her her mortal enemy. But Neil is criticizing each director-general director-general yes. Neil is criticizing and this. I've misunderstood this. The permissiveness that's going on here. Yes I think he's he's against It's not just the permissiveness. He's he's come out. The permissive survive society the counter culture of the youth or an old curmudgeon. Yeah at times to kind of decade of love stuff which he is not keen on and it seems like all well is much more concerned about censorship and the to the the of Oceana censoring what its citizens can can see and access whereas Neil seems to be suggesting that the whole idea of censorship has been forgotten. I suppose there is still a form of censorship in that they are. They're losing certain concepts and the ability to even describe certain thoughts and certainly art itself has kind of vanished but not through blocking it. More through giving people an alternative. That is kind of that I would. How do you describe it? High-calorie comfort just stuff. That people will go to by default and that seems to be his criticism rather than the idea that people are being forbidden stuff This letter does seem to be a suggestion of censorship. When you get to the art that he's too difficult to handle I. I wanted to talk about the. I wanted to talk about the art because that that in many ways is the fascinating part of this to me the the character of kin who just has to try to express these things you know he he he he seems driven to to get his ideas feels whatever he he's driven to have other people feel the things that he wants them to feel. He thinks it's important and we don't really ever find out why he thinks it's important. But this is what the House. That's something takes a self evident that that feeling is living and the state of apathy the audience and indeed most of the kind of hydride executives are in isn't living so we c GNAT. You know we have very different reactions between Napa and Mitch when he shows them the pictures which frankly don't do anything for me but From an artistic level. Maybe that's because we don't saving color in color with bright red blood or whatever it was probably all over them all. I would've loved to have seen the death scenes in in color because I bet that was a really beautiful shaded. Bbc Blood Red. They were liberally applying it all over the place so I assume they were trying to show off the HOFFA colored death. It can can hold grills at the end. He was hacked up to But yeah the the fact that that that is just enraptured of it and say what you will of his acting at least I got that out of it. He he's he's he's fascinated by it he's genuinely having some and macy's is repulsed by them and feeling is all feeling. It's all feeling both both ways. They're both getting something. And one is one is drawn by it. Even though he doesn't under his words it's like remembering something that you can't It's like something you remember that you've never seen. How does it to me? And he called describe because he doesn't have the words I e words for it because they've lost them from their from their vocabulary And and yet I think we`ve. We've not mentioned this. But as we go further into the live life show first off laser as some of his acting there at one point when he's there really late at night watching the show and running his thumb across his fingers. He's not just overseeing this he's into it. And as the show progresses all the high drives her in there watching the show too. They're all getting excited by it as well and I think what they're showing is that even even in the end the people who make these things are going to be taken over by them. It's it's the subversion of the BBC. If you will we'll yes so low as always is always it seems to be part of it. That the the the hydride themselves May want tension right well. Yeah yeah they're they`re. They're handling it with drugs and and you know having been content because they've got or anything as the thing. It's interesting that by the end. Mitch seems to actually be. I don't WanNa say empathizing because that's not the right word but she's into Dini she clearly didn't like Dini at the beginning partially because of jealousy angle but you know by the end of it. She's like wow that Dini. He's she's rooting for her. She's she's invested and It it really is a it's a fascinating. It's a fascinating piece of television. I couldn't remake it. You couldn't really say that. Well I mean obviously you could but I mean it wouldn't. It doesn't if somebody put that out now you'd think it was a broad parody. Nuts I mean it would be. It would impossible to make good remake of it. Yeah and and I think it gets. It's probably gotten better with age as as we pointed because now we can look at it and go. Avai didn't know this and yet they're so they're not parodying it. They're not looking at survivor and big brother and going. I'M GONNA make a show about how stupid this is. But instead they're they're warning is so I know it is. It's it's one of those Instan- instances where a clear-sighted extrapolation of the way things go. I mean reminds me in a very very small way of the day to day. I don't know if that made it across the pond but it doesn't ring a bell nine nineteen comedy series that parodied. The kind of way television was reported and some of the behavior of anchors and interviewers and in particular kind of crazy crazy graphics and is just like it's TV new shows must have watched it and gone. Hey we can do that now day to day. Are we talking about What's the other one that had that tomato flu and the pathway their day celebrations which sean talking about also sounds sounds? It's also a news spoof. I'M GONNA look it up listeners. Tap TAP TAP. You can hear me typing it on the flu broken news. I haven't seen that. Oh you do half to watch that. It's you have to if you can get it it is. It is a a series of basically each episode is largely upon a theme like the tomato flu or the celebrations for halfway there day an halfway day celebrations are the day where they celebrate the point where the World War. Two was halfway over until like getting veterans out there and asking him questions like well. What did you think about on halfway day? They're halfway day during the war and like well at the time we didn't know with the war was half but but it's broken up into about eight different news styles. There's an and I'm assuming that they're mocking the BBC and TV and and American television and maybe CNN and and a few of the others and Fox News or whatever and they have they've broken them out and they just kind of shift in between them completely. Different graphic styles completely different announcers a different kind of banter between the the news readers. All of the stereotypes that they go on cross cutting show. But but now I'm interested in this day today right now today today today to the. Oh the day today. Okay but I have heard of come to think of it. Thanks a day to day as three words that make sense to go like I'm I'm living life day to day dated and as opposed today today as to tell you I have heard of that one. I haven't seen it but I have heard of it. Nineteen ninety-four car. Anyway we have diverted off of the topic but yes sorry. That's okay. That's okay I might leave it in house get listeners. Something to look for out there. Let's see do we have anything else. But I I have more wealth stuff. Go ahead. Okay so I mean this is one of the things that I think is a a kind of clear similarity between one thousand nine hundred four hundred s and that is the way in which in for me in in one thousand nine hundred eighty four. The imagery of the countryside is very much connected with Winston being able to escape from the confines of life under the Party on the big brother and to be able to find freedom and self expression with Julia and losing that is losing us as part of the the kind of the the betrayal but being at being able to get away from London and out into into the countryside. I remember that as being quite to kind of key key. Element is one of the things that stuck in my mind from nine thousand nine hundred four and and and the connection in that in terms of his relationship with Julia which is which is a much more kind of a much more meaningful relationship and in this there are absolutely I think spectacular location shots. I mean I immediately saw them. I thought I got to find out why that is and the the kind of sense in which both Dini and nat partly because of the the issue with that daughter but also there seems there seems to be a sense in which they are choosing to leave behind something with which they have become disillusioned in order to to form a different kind of relationship there. the idea of living as a family when they explain it is is seen as being something kind of novel because it's not part of the sexual relationships that they're accustomed to so living in close proximity and having to do things for themselves find their own food keep themselves warm and Cetera etc is is portrayed as being a kind of ideal in this and I find it partly because of the the kind of spectacular location filming to be to be incredibly romantic. It looked miserable to me there but didn't to me. I thought that I figured like Pembrokeshire or something but it's well okay so actually it turns out that it is the Isle of Man and so I had much realized that Nigel. Kneale was brought up on the Isle of Man. Okay I found kind of interesting and it's quite difficult to find. It's widely noted that the location filming was done on the islet man but I was wandering okay. Whereabouts on the Isle of Man is it. It turns out fact fans that it's a place called apple which is a little way south appeal so on the West Coast the island. It's not somewhere I've been but I should certainly be making tracks to go and find the actual cottage which is still standing. Next time. I visit the island man because I did think it's just. It's it's the spectacularly stunning piece of coast. It's beautiful but here's the I got caught up in that. Nigel kneale if if if that is his intention of kind of saying actually step back from all of the kind of high calorie low sought TV diet being force fed and as it were go back to something more real won't meaningful and there's a bit of a Luddite tendency coming out here and also something I think. If this were American show linking into all the survivalist stuff this is very much like self reliance and I. I see this from a distance so I don't know how much is is kind of fair reflection of the real America but this this whole kind of anti-federalist government right to bear arms nonsense it. That's the political vibe. I'm getting from it. I can kind of see that I can kind of see that You know again. We're we are looking at something. Where in a show where? He's perhaps taking things too. I hope even he was considering a ridiculous extreme to make the point that saying okay. We'll give me out of here and get me a real life. That means getting rid of all. Technology isn't quite what he was trying to say. We should do but you know it served. No I'm not sure it's the narratives of the story because it's the way the way it comes across. It's it's the and this may be more about me because you didn't get the same thing but it's the romance of it in the appeal after the kind of sterility of life in a life for the high drives in in their kind of luxuriant apathetic. It's the random everything everything is provided everything is provided. For and everything is you know they. They have what they need. Everything is automatically produce. They don't have to work Tetra Tetra and they are then cost wellness island in the harsh reality of it. Is that if they if they don't learn very quickly how to feed themselves. They're going to die and they might. Well die anyway because life is dangerous and random auch yeah random and that was the word they use we need random so am I. You know I think you could make an argument. That says technology is the thing that has removed randomness from our lives. Yes so I'm sure it's there I say I'm not sure how much of it is is me. And how much do they kneel but there is definitely something there which are which Luddite in its nature where you say you bring yourself to any good piece of art you bring yourself into it in the interpretation so it doesn't matter whether it's your him and he will be the first to argue that but his choice of oxes he's painting and so although I think he is probably going to consider his own work as hard and his argument in this. Is Debbie employ me more? Because I do good stuff on. His prescient is not going to use as much as they should. Because they're much more interested in rubbish but still what what there seems to be. There is a criticism of permissiveness. And I'm not sure I agree with that. And a romanticizing of a backwards looking view of the things that he perceives us to lost. All of which even over here is very much in line with the kind of right-wing view of the social conservatives The the the kind of the kind of people who believe that the rot set in the nineteen sixties. But but you know what we even even what we're seeing now with. Well they that they shouldn't be permitting. Gay Marriage that all we need to do is leave the European Union and we can go back to the nineteen fifties and everything will be fine again. I Have Nigel. Kneale was also the stone tape right. Yes I mean. I have always gotten the impression that Nigel meal and I don't know this fact and so. This is my supposition. I've always get the impression that he is probably an unpleasant individual that would not get along with. He was an unpleasant individual from what I've read. I mean obviously. I've met him but I'm pretty sure there's a high chance you wouldn't get along with him because must've seemed right. And so you know one of the things that amazes me and that maybe even provides me a little bit of optimism. The world is that you can you can take somebody like that and perhaps not agree with them as a person and yet they can still produce something like this that if you look at you can take something from that does have meaning and that does have a think. I don't want to watch stuff. I agree with all the time. I don't necessarily want to only be exposed to for one to better. Left-wing art and I you know I dirty Harry is a great film. I love it also. I think he's made my day. But you're asking yourself did I fi- five shots defy six yet. I mean the thing about Nigel. Kneale is that even even the people who sell admired him. He didn't seem to reciprocate because I was reading their piece. That mark gatiss wrote shortly after he died and of course Mark Gatiss huge fan and work. And you can see how much the influences there but he was also involved in not an original Nigel kneale but the re staging the quota mass experiment right because quite mass was broadcast live recording it was an afterthought I think they did right recording of it but certainly episodes three and four and no longer with us and in two thousand and five. They staged it live again. I saw that I saw to life and I thought he was absolutely fantastic. David tennant was in it as well and neal was apparently consultant on. It didn't like it or gate. Says he was very critical and it doesn't really seem to temper gate admiration for the man but he clearly was a great mind please in difficult to get on with another another. Little Nigel. Kneale fact I this one. I did no for some for some reason. Keep forgetting it was that he was married to do to. Kerr name listening about well you May. You may have come across as an author of books for very young children so making more anyone get. I don't I don't know whether these would across the pond but I I remember it. I maybe maybe too late for you in your own childhood but certainly feel kids if it if you did cross the pond now doesn't doesn't mean also when Hitler Stole Kane Crap it which is a sounds like a classic but no. It's it's a very very good I think semi autobiographical you wartime piece. Oh I can okay. I can totally understand. I can get that from title now that I think about it her hardships as a child. Because of Hitler my right indeed. And that's why she lost her as a Jew hiding from the Nazis Etcetera. Really Really Good. Children's her work would a at least at face value share no particular themes with anything new was produced. But then I guess why should it was just one of that one of those interesting curiosities you know to to artists who you admire and they turn out to be married. I had one of the thing I just wanted to mention the point out on the show and that is the scene where the girl Hatton is is dying and of course. They don't know she's dying. I suspect they fear it but they don't understand that she's going to die that infection and when he's trying to tell her story and of course he just doesn't he doesn't have that which I think is fascinating that the producer of a TV show can't even make up a story. I mean that that's the bankruptcy of their imagination and their conditioning. Laser seems to be able to kind of yeah. Put the pieces in place for action. But I I appreciate the scene and I. I took great care. Never to use the word love in my recap. Because they don't have it out there I he's he's trying so desperately to convey to her the depth of feeling and he can't because he hasn't got the words and he just repeats over and over like you. I like you. I like you and it's such A. It's such a in a way over the top and weird scene to see father over his sick child just just like you. I like you I like you. I like you over and over again. But it's powerful about what what these people have lost two. Yeah and I wanted to pass but I think we have probably beat this one to death silent. I show again chatting about it for us but I do know we've done in our half seem wise to draw things to close saw on balanced and worthy of people trying to find and and watch the thing absolutely and so I will mention something in passing because this was this was issued on DVD. So it was. It was rediscovered or the print was recovered and it was issued on DVD. But now I just checked because we've been meaning towards this freighters put the DVD now seems to be very difficult to get hold off and one of the things that I've become conscious of is partly through watching me. The last games were hosted here is is that the Olympic Committee is incredibly incredibly protective of all things to do with it so I wanted to how they react to that the soon as I saw those opening titles they use the Olympic rings. They did they did. And he's saying God maybe they got away with issuing now on. Dvd in two thousand three. But would they still be able to do that? I'm probably being paranoid is probably just a bfi print in the have have produced a number of DVD's of culturally significant but not necessarily high selling shall we say becomes and things and so it was probably a limited run. And it's it's out of print but definitely I would say it's worth tracking down and I. I'm ready ready to give it to watch. So yeah I I gave a longer recap because it's going to be difficult for people to find. It is although I would say a low getting a legitimate copy on. Dvd is challenging the enterprising amongst you may find another way. And I shall say no more say no moyer there. There may be trends that were not predicted by Nigel. Kneale television programming out there so anyway Simon. Thank you for joining me for this. It's a pleasure as listeners. I hope you've enjoyed our extended discussion and I hope you will join us again. Next TIME FUSION PATROL. You've been listening to fusion patrol. A listener supported podcasts. Find out how you can be a sponsor and get early access to all episodes and more at Patriot dot com slash fusion patrol. Come join the conversation on facebook or twitter. All episodes are available at fusion patrol dot Com. Our music is fight. The future by Amber Wolf. This has been a lone locust production.

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Hour 2: Fixing the NBA Playoffs

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Hour 2: Fixing the NBA Playoffs

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Latest headlines and information, tune into sports aren't ESPN radio all throughout the day. What was the look for? Don't earn seven rebounds RAB, seven rebounds. I think what ROY would say is right. The sports yourself. That's what it usually better. No. You gotta fight for those rebounds. Yeah. Fight not earn. You earn news rebounds. Because you fall for those rebound just grabs seven board. Something like that. What did you write? This is what I'm saying. Right. That's what I'm saying. If you don't like Roy's copy. Then you write it yourself. I never complain about your copy. Okay. I looked pet peeve. Talk about this peeves. I love it. I don't know what you guys are talking about. Yeah. Here's his head. Peeve of mine. I don't like the whole earn deserved thing. When someone puts up a picture, and it's like, a mom vacation. I deserve this or someone puts picture, and it's like, oh, my God, you deserve that so much. Oh, you deserve. It. You deserve it that I'm graduations you deserve it. Yeah. Universe. I don't buy that concept of you deserve. This. You deserve that deserve. It seems a bit entitled to me. All right. So how would you like people to just have fun? That's it something like that. Just the whole. Oh, my God, you deserve it. Oh, you deserve it to people not deserve. Nice things. You don't think karma is something that's built up, and then you sort of get paid back for that. You know, believe in that. Yeah. But I don't think that every time that anyone does something they deserve it always. And I mean, sometimes I see people that are doing things like, oh, my God, you deserve it. I'm like, I know you're not a good person deserve off today. Does he deserve that always earned it though? Deserve doing color commentary. Awesome. I don't deserve anything that. I'm doing. Much less than vacation. Maybe I'm alone on this. I'm the only one bought it. I think I think what would people say people would say Dan has earned the next two days off right because he worked so hard. He's the second hardest working guy at ESPN beyond Stephen a Smith say, so it's not even a dancing like, you know, we're on Instagram, and it's like, oh my God. It's friday. Happy hour. I deserve this drink. It's like. Deserve drinking shut up your drink. Sign of somebody who might be a little bit dependent on the alcohol deserve this. I need this Bill is right about this. I don't need to see your drink. Okay. You want to say, hey, long leak Friday. Happy hour. That's fine. I don't need a picture of the Margarita. I donate it. I don't want it. I don't need it. I will on follow you. If you do it. I've seen some artistic shots of some drinks. And it makes me want to drink. There's a such a thing as over sharing lake. Everybody's life is not super interesting that I need to see what you're doing Aubrey second of the day. Like, it almost seems phony to me. Everything you're doing the second. They've given me more than two motivational Instagram posts a day. Like, man, I know those come in handy every once in a while, if you're the type of person who needs Malta, people inspirational quotes to get you through the day, you've got some issues. I also feel like why is it that you feel like I'm going to you for motivation and get over yourself. Oh man, do that feeling down. But some of that I went to school with let me go. Check to see what they're thinking about today. Oh my God. I'm now I'm gonna get up and seize the day because I saw quote that they put an album Weinstein or something get outta here. You have someone that you want filed recently that did that like Burris color claret, the former Ohio State running back. He doesn't often. Like, he's the guy who you know, you wake up and he's already done it a gym. And he tells you he's done at the gym. Yeah. That's the guy that I'm going to be motivated by Marie clarity. But yes, I've un-filed somebody recently. But it's nobody anybody knows though celebrity. No, okay. Billy you want follow the celebrity recently because they're annoying with that. Now, I don't follow that many celebrities. But I've I've you don't understand how valuable the mute button is it is so great. The may have that on Instagram. Oh, they have never followed never blocked. Anyone? I don't do any of that stuff. I mean, I've never blocked anyone either. But like, I feel like might get to a point where he just start having petty blocks. Not even like, I'm that upset. Just because I just want to let people know that it's possible that I could block you. But you know, I'm not just as punching bag. I would like for there to be a feature when you block someone the Matombo finger at wags, it you I want them to come on. So that means right? You like that Bill like that means I blocked you alert on your phone if I blocked you. I watch I want everybody to know. Hey, you're done. Right. But I think the Matombo finger-wagging at us funny. Right. What else would you use? Pretty good. You get those guys or women who will go to your Instagram to give you their take on something that you said, and it's just the most random picture he'll just use you know, Victor of me and my nephew. Oh, by the way that Finn. You said about LSU yesterday, you idiot. I've got some homophobes that go on there and just give me crazy takes. And I'm like, I don't know what to do with this guy. I'm just gonna leave it. There is actually like I'm posting a pitcher my daughter was this have to do sing John's. Find me on Twitter man me on Twitter anytime I post anything picture like like, my fiance or tweet about anything two dollars like everybody funniest. Funniest two dollars. References to know, it's mainly to get outta here and people call them my daughter, Gary because your dumb ass. Thanks to clear what they're calling my daughter Gerri because a hill. It's neck, Gary. I need the story. More problem with two guys people. My wife loves following ROY. She thinks your your baby she, and Gary is the most adorable baby planet does your wife. Follow me. I think my wife Allah's, what's your username? Don't give it up. Then people are falling creepers follow her. Well, she's on Facebook Facebook. She follows ROY on Facebook. She doesn't do Twitter. She follows ROY and Facebook, you're not a Facebook Instagram pretty much. She's not on the Graham. Oh, wow. She's missing out on life. I'm not on the ground. I mean, I'm on the Graham, and I don't know how to use the Grand Canyon. Yeah. Sounds about. Right. You wanna learn today? Right now, I go in there. I'm gonna walk across. While you're doing that. We'll update our or toward him. It real quick. Then is about the NBA and tanking. We had to play in games last night in the NC double A tournament the big tournament. Number sixteen a sixteen seed, North Dakota state that means this they want, and that means this advances will Cain looks like the cover of haired ibox. Funny. It's great. I'm glad that advanced that means that North Carolina central represented by this is out. Sam darnold looks at the guy. You have to beat in a race down death mountain to save your favorite ski lodge from becoming condos. That's not fortunate for Sam Sam is up. Let's go to let's go to at eleven seats. Saint john's. I was rooting for them last night. They didn't get it done. That means this is out chip Kelly. Looks like the guy who has perfected the finger in the mouth whistle. Yes. Yes. He does. Look like that guy. Exactly. Like that guy. But that's out. Remember, what chip Kelly looked like for second. You haven't seen him in a while. Right. But this advance is number eleven Arizona's state represented by this Scott van pelt looks like the cartoon version of a smart earthworm who lives in an apple. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I'm glad that advanced ROY. That's that's good for us. Right. We watch. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That is a perfect. What am I on the Graham right now? Yes, you are Graham in it. Hey, it's grab. So I just did my first post. Pitcher swipe up or as was to say that. So you just taking a picture of us on Instagram. Okay. Oh, yes. I wanna talk about taking the NBA because I do find this interesting Israel. I was saying the other day. I think Chris I think you agree with me. I think ammo agrees of me, it's more about execution at this point. We all agree. It's a good idea. It's it's how we actually execute the idea that is that is up for debate. And so to eliminate tanking because I think Adam silver thought that he had fixed Anki, but what's happened. Here is is more teams are tanking than ever. Okay. If the Knicks you have the Suns, you have the Cavaliers and so. It's interesting from this damn point. I made team that if there was a second playoff. Izzy a second play all for all the non playoff team. So the non marbles, yes, you're incentivizing teams to win. Okay. So the non playoff teams if you have the best record of the non playoff teams, you're the one seat. So it's a second playoff because the transactions become more important than the action or more interesting to fans, I think than the action for me. It's a foregone conclusion that the Golden State Warriors even while having their struggles during the regular season are going to win the NBA title. And I was saying Monday that I'd rather watch the other tournament the tournament where everyone's playing for Williamson, but you have to win that tournament. It's not about having the worst record in the league. It's about being the best team that doesn't make the playoffs in the NBA you wheel out Zion before the final game and be like, this will be your prize and have them sort of stand at midcourt after the game. They all just lift him up in the air when they won their championship. We did have a scenario where the two final teams of this playoff for the first pick zion's at that game. And he's allowed to route. He's allowed to have a rooting interest. Go someone like like, it would be the top two teams right now not that you might run into. And we'll discuss this. Okay. Because I know you have many questions Israel, you might run into to a scenario with a team like the heat and where they may take because they they know they have no shot of winning NBA title. And they might rather be in the other play. I'll playing for William thing. I love it. Right. We should get into this little we'll do it next to God's ear. No one really has. To go to the post office. You're busy who's got time for all that traffic parking lugging, all your mail and packages, it's a real Astle? That's why you need stamps dot com. 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She has plenty of time to think if we could sadly, she has no brain, however, when in a most nesting dole, his gyco not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to Geico is a no brainer pity in a most nesting Dollond her lot in life. Dr Libertad hold on a second. We've got one minute left in the segment. Can we have everyone including ROY ROY? Do you do fakes to got? Yeah, buddy. I actually do. All right. Let's all of us. It's going to be being John Malcolm for one minute go to guts. Never. Mixture. So I knew I am way over. Sports VC's libertas show with this to God's own ESPN radio is during the commercial break, if he kid rid himself of once on this would be the song that he would get rid of all time to hear it again, this one at the Royal so proud that you came out of the rejoin with that song. Fact Chris likes this song. What's wrong with this? It's just run. Its course, man. It's over it's done with. I'm with that Kris van I like this on this on me move, man. Yes, it would make you know, you and people like that Chris and move as me trying to say, I don't know Billy you're on the same page, right? It's you know, what I don't like about the song. I don't like the person that saying that screams. This is how we do it and tries to start singing the song by themselves. I could do without that. Like that person. Yeah. I could do without Chris cody's. I don't like when they play it on any other day in Friday. Yeah. That's another thing. They played it on Monday. You're gonna punch your radio. Oh, yeah. You just played it on a Thursday. Roy I kind of had to because we're talking about it. Even for the joke is their song Christy would like to eliminate. I was trying to think I can't think of one off talking my head. If you tip up your Cup and throw your hands up the drinks gonna go everywhere on the ISIS. Yeah. They just got water everywhere. It's their EM. This is a song. You would choose. If you could eliminate one saw this is some kind of in that position because we've met I'm getting married and we've met with the wedding DJ number of times. I find I found out. There's a do not play list not play this. Yes. There's a do not play list. And I'm trying to figure out what to put on the do not play list. I feel like I feel you're gonna put all the line dancing songs on there. Oh. See those are back at least who can't dance you have instructions and they're like, oh, yeah. They run out that also if like if people aren't dancing that gets people out on the dance floor. Yeah. I've learned that my fiance has a lot stronger feelings for the do not play. Listen, I do like soon as the guy mentioned there was like six songs on their Oreos like, whoa. No, that's not on there. But I will say this, and is you might take offence to this being Dominican. But I have I have asked that there's no shots out to be played that. Thing that shows, you know, I feel like you would like it. Do you not like, I don't know this song? This is John. Thought it was a assault. Basically like any rahmael sant- those song? It's kind of like oh him. It's kind of like a little like it's almost like whiny, and it's looming in and it's like, no, no, no, no. Does that suppose we happy occasion? I want music that makes people happy Nali. Every time you sing Spanish song. It sounds the same. I mean, I don't know if it's your delivery or whatever or you're just choosing the same similar sounding songs, but they sound the same. They're not the same as that's, you know, maybe that's the song that I wanna get rid of forever. Was that Chris rockstar by Nickelback? Oh, all in never again the bottom of that. Never hear that song a lot either. But that doesn't mean that's not the rules. You didn't say Songa herald picked it already, and it's just been gone forever. Yeah. I think that's the whole reason is you hear song way too much. And you're just I'm over the bathroom and came back and the were months Jordan here at the Cleveland earn house like no get rid of that song for life. A lot of people attacks are saying who let the dogs out. Oh, yeah. That's kinda liked that song put it on the poll. Do you like who let the dogs out good with that song, Christy? Like, that's all right. I love it ROY Moore. When I realized what it was about. What is it? What is it about? I haven't really about letting not letting the dogs out about like late in a club. And it's like, there's only ugly people left. Then you're just like let the dog. Okay. Yeah. I prefer the literal version. The dog out the back door music video music video had dogs running in the street. Didn't it? I don't know. I don't know. Did couldn't just have a bunch of ugly people running around. Well, the thong song about thongs in. That's what the music video was. It was pretty literal that one a lot. A lot more literal in this one is I'll give rid of the song get free by major lazer. That is highly annoying me free by mating. Did it hit? It it. It isn't it? Goes we can get rid of that one. Roy that song that they constantly play with the promo here that we got tired of. You get to be so. That song we hear that song. So much on a second career shave vision. I liked that song here. We hear a lot natural that one. Yeah. If he fired up for summaries. What are we listen to this get free by major league that barely decided the play because he hates me. Good. Related awesome. What's your favorite song? Do you have a favorite? So I have a favorite song shifts all the time. I don't have a favorite favorite song. I guess my favorite song is SAM's town by the killers. But it's the Abbey Road acoustic version, not the not the actual Monday night football as Gillan is either. That of the song they play at the end of the NCAA tournament on sign a moment. Vandross? That is a classic. I go I go eat it by weird. Al really as your favorite song ever song. That is on brand. By the way, they are now on minute thirty three on I take thirty third minute of them discussing which team should draft Wayne Haskins done card jerk or no jerk. Calling basketball round ball seventy seven percent. Unfortunately, voted jerk. My when you say round ball in the association Europe, people, that's it. Guilty to guts awesome. I supposed to call the rock. These live at our show with this Stu gods on ESPN radio. I wanna talk about this this NBA playoff because two dollars. Good. Now you've done. I got lunch that I worry about it. You have that. That's we someone sent that's outrage that we're not on TV because we're having fun to today using Instagram post. I want you to I want you to read it because I want to clarify something. And because it complements it says it's a joke that ESPN news doesn't simulcast the show on Thursdays and Fridays anymore. Not really true. It's just this Thursday and Friday unless there's in Friday tournament, but anyway, right? Just because Levitan isn't there? And it's like ESPN thinks Stu gods isn't good enough to carry the show in his own, and that's far from the truth. Stugatz. Makes the show apparently ESPN you've don't get the show. That's my army right now to clarify. Okay. Dan is off today. And this happened last Thursday at Friday at it's happening today. And it's going to happen tomorrow. It has nothing to do with Dan not being here. The fact that we're not on TV might be the reason that Dan's not here, but we're not TV because ESPN has other things to air. It has there have been plenty of times. Dan, has it been here and the show has been on TV would be hosting like what? Plenty I can't I can't recall off the top. But there's been weeks that it's Dan disappears. Like august. Then he goes like, I don't know where he goes. He goes on vacation for like three weeks, and they. It on TV here would still be on TV, perhaps we'd have a better chance of being on TV. I will I will give you that. They kind of correlate. Because if Dan was here he'd be here because they were doing HQ today. Right. You're saying whenever he does do whenever he doesn't do HQ. Whenever HQ was off this show will not be right EBay. That's the same. Tv crew is the I don't know if you knew that you're only here. No. I know that I also know that they're only off right because then is off, and I think you have that backward. That because H Q is of you co host to do you not know this? I know I wish I was co host you've gotten the gig and proud of you map before you not but's it's the same crew. I I'm totally lying made them. It's not just HQ though. I think that I think that high noon is off I think that around I think all the right home shows might be off. Right. Dan could still be here. But specifically down here if the TV crew is not here because H Q yesterday could still be here. Because HQ is is off. That means we're not on TV. I think that's the way. We're right. Have I did have golick and wingo this morning because there was no television. I don't I don't wanna I don't wanna sound route here. But if Dan was here, you probably wouldn't be here. Oh, no. This is good for you the dance on here was here. He'd be here after the show doing hands actually laying out at the Cleveland or poor. And of course in. Or they're playing Montell Jordan. All right Izzy. So what do you think about this? Because we really do believe this is a good idea where you have a separate playoff of the NBA because the transaction off the court has become more entertaining to many fans than what's going on on the court. And I don't care. What's going on in the NBA? You tell me how good the bucks are the raptors are the Sixers. I know STAN Van Gundy said he thinks the warriors aren't gonna win an NBA title this year. I think they are. Okay. That's a foregone conclusion at so rather than have teams tanking to get a percentage chance of drafting Zion. Williamson I think it'd be more entertaining. If you incentivize those teams to win right at a non playoff teams are seeded one through whatever. And they're all playing a separate playoff a separate tournament to get the first pick in the draft. I think that would be so exciting fans with love that you would have a situation that she of the Lakers who are gonna make the playoffs. And then all of a sudden LeBron James goes. Into the playoff mode, but not that playoff mode the other playoff mode because he's playing for something more important than getting bounced out in the second round. He is playing presi- Williamson that would be exciting strap it on Stu because I love this. Really, wait a second. Whoa. Wait. No. Is he this isn't how it works. You need to have someone against God's idea for it to work out. I don't care them. Then then go call them go called to get back. 'cause I love this don't they don't do the four sports radio. Because I know that you love it, Billy. This is our idea. Here's the thing that I don't like about it. Okay. All right. So you're going to get like the funder for example, right which are an eight seat. So they have to decide. Listen, do I want to go against the warriors in the first round and lose or do I lose on purpose? And then I'm the best team in this tournament. And then they get the number one pick now. But I like that though because at least like in that scenario, the thunder, it's not like they would if they tank out of that eight spot not guaranteed there to get that. They still have to win that tournament Zion against the sun's in the Mavericks win. Also of the face Librado on the way. But it's no guarantee, whereas if you're taking at the bottom, if there's if this scenario never happens in the bottom teams are taking the bottom team just gets I on. No there has to be some sort of incentive to still make the playoffs. Yes. But yeah, I think if you if you are the Oklahoma City thunder. You're not guaranteed to win that bottom tournament. Either. Didn't they change the lottery? So like the last three or four teams of the same odds. No the last three teams at the same odd. So what you have. Now. Would you have more teams trying to you have more team trying to get into that bottom three? And I'm saying eliminate that incentivize teams to win to be good to be competitive. If you make the finals in that other mini turnament. However, you you should have guaranteed the one in to pick. And then you're just fighting for the one pick for the number one. I'd save me. Like, maybe like the bottom four teams the bottom two in each confident because then you're still then you're still taking to be those bottom two then. In the bottom eight, but how do you do that? Like if so you're saying that there are the heat the hand to twelve teams per conference trying to figure out whether they need to stay in the actual playoffs or the lottery play offs. And I think when there's that many teams trying to fight you just play to win. And you just do what you do Oklahoma City, and Russell Westbrook is not going to think himself. Hey, I'm gonna go fight for Zion. So you know, what I can beat the warriors the right, and there nothing there that the best example. I mean, they're seven games up on the eight seed right now, but Sacramento seven games back. So pick the heat of the heat of the net to the perfect team. You might run into into a scenario where the Miami Heat say to themselves say we're gonna lose in the first round anyway. So we might as well tank. These games here. We'd rather be in the playoff playing for on. Then we would playing NBA tight. This might have that if this scenario was in effect like think about this year like the Knicks and the sons they would all be trying to win more right now to get a higher seed. I've got the fig if you're not in the top two. Let's say let's say four. All right. Let's say top. Or you're a semi finalist in that other turnament those forget the top four picks. But then it goes reverse order from the playoff teams in terms of records. So those eight seeds will have a better chance of getting a four or five we'll get a five or six pick. And then those other teams that loss and then lost in the tournament. Big time. They still are terrible. I don't get the bottom without that's about idea. But you lost me. I don't really easy. So what happens to the Knicks in this scenario? Well, the Knicks. They've they have the last big in the for his friend. They would have the if they do not make the final four of that loser tournament the lottery tournament, then they get the last pick in the first guys I actually liked this. He's saying final four gets the top four picks in the NBA draft. And then the eight seeds the east and the west who may be actual playoffs. They get the fifth and six picks in the NBA that way, you're incentivizing everyone to win. Yep. And imagine that like I love the Lakers example where they missed out on Anthony Davis. Okay. New goal. Go. Get zion. Don't make the playoffs. Do. You gotta do. Lebron takes over. There's your superstar teammate boat. Dow is this playoff guys? How do you imagine? It is it a best of five to seven is at one and done z AA better double AA. I don't I love. I don't I love because we need longer playoffs in the you know, because it's too random a scenario especially in the NBA I like to out of three solar, bingo balls. But you still have odds involved like you have more for the top three than you do in the other. So you don't like that at any given night. Andrea Eytan can go for you know, thirty five and eighteen maybe upset at team. That's actually trying to be good. I like to two out of three is good enough. That's good enough. Keeps it exciting. They have to play every day, none of these travel days and and at three game series takes eight weeks all three games in one day. Oh tripleheader. We are not done here. We are not even close to being done. Well, not no. We are not done with this topic. We discuss it more next. This show inventory. That. Mind blown situation. Right. The three games in one day. Can you imagine the Baronne complaining about that? Don't TV care on myself on the floor. Boom. My head exploded. You don't have to. Thanks for those things hurt man. Dr is when my bag was killing me if Lebanon were here where you feel the need. Would you have felt the need? Yeah. CD's scans. I've got him. No way to transition into but your box from there there just as. Your heads issue there from CAT scans. You have transition talk about the ground beef. Unlimited right for the life of your subscription that I said. That I said I love GB. Beef. And grasp that oh. I just came a couple of GB's got it up done lebatardshow, many textures writing in here, Dan, you're not a beetle your, Meatloaf. Is that what I would be? What would I be if I were a band? Stugatz. There's a band called cake. These live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio right before my mic was turned on Billy said wars such a scam. A war talking about baseball war like armed conflict face. What happened with war here? I want to continue this NBA discussion. Because is he's into it the audiences into it. We have stumbled upon a very good idea here. I'm telling you now, Bill Simmons might say that he thought of it. I I'm telling you. He did. I did. Anyway, Bill your problem with war? Well, because I was looking at today was each year was last game. He's you know, the reason I was thinking about this. Because you know, we all know he's going to go into the hall of fame. Obviously he's going to go in his America. What if he wore a second hat? What would that second happy? Would it be the Yankees of the moorlands, and it's really just grasping at straws hoping that there's some sort of moral Tyler. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I saw that his his career war was like really high his career war is fifty six point three. I thought. Wow. That's really good. Because you know, I'm basing this on the Marlins highest wars like twenty or something like Stanton. I'm like, oh, you know, whatever. So fifty six is like really good. So then I like he has to be one of the best Mariners ever. Then I saw Ken Griffey's war his career wars seventy point six, and I'm like, wow, that's seems really really high. So I start going to other teams and go to the Yankees, and I babe Ruth's career war or it says here his war guesses again. He was one forty two point four which seems like astronomical. So like the higher the better, right? Yeah. Who has the highest war ever? So I looked up career war and babe. Ruth's career war is one eighty two point four. And I always thought that war was like wins above replacement players, right, which obviously I'm an idiot, and I didn't understand properly because as I understand it. It would be like if this person was replaced by an average player this person produce Twen. He more wins a season. Then you know that player, right. They've ruses one eighty two point four doesn't that mean over his career? He made his team one hundred and over the course of time replacement players the same player or do. They adjust the replacement player for the same guy replacing Babe Ruth every single time. He doesn't play right? Look. I'm going to be honest with you right now Bill James, he's not listening to this. But if he was listening to this he'd be like, laughing, you guys are a bunch of Dumbo. Right. This Bill James. He just basically events invents new stats like every six years just to stay relevant. And then it was like oh the Bill James stat. So we need to go by this war war war war, plus minus X OPZZ be or plus exactly plus mine is not enough. So when you wore plus four plus or minus four blue, and it's like, poking Mons or something. I mean, just give me average home runs RBI's and rings as that's out abor is not the best player ever. Can. We just agree with that. Definitely not even my top ten about that. Wow. Not who's in your top ten. He's in my top ten black baseball players of all time. So you're saying none of your top ten baseball players are black. Babe Ruth is in my top ten black. So he's not your best black cler- Volta. List number. He's number seven on the seven eight range somewhere there. Really? Yeah. Willie Mays ahead of them. Hey, kid. Yeah. Hammer and Hank I got Jackie Jackie Robinson, Griffey the kid. When they drafted Ken Griffey junior. They had to be like, oh, man. We'd be lucky. If we got another Ken Griffey, right? And it's like Ken Griffey junior was so much better than kangaroo senior so much better. I've been not. Yes, they would've taken. Yes. They would've taken Ken Griffey senior what they got was on. That was infinitely better it can cribbage union, but they would have settled for Ken Griffey seeing you it never works out like Tiger Woods junior. If there is a Tiger Woods juniors. Not going to be Tiger Woods. Okay. I got this. By the way over there. Are we got less than a minute here? You wanna know what is doing? He is writing down. All these MBA Teves is he has this playoff thing figured out. He does know in a way where everyone is incentivized to win. So do you want to do it? We can't do it now. So we have to do it next up. But we can't do it. Guild. I ever have a son. I'm naming him. Barry Bonds junior. Very during your Cody. No. Yeah. Okay. Is Ken Griffey junior. The example the kid being better than the dad now Steph curry, Chris, Cody, Greg, Cody. Very good point. Lebron get no way. Yes. So much expectations for brawny that he's never gonna reach no offense. But it's just impossible is a greatest ever, right? My kids names going to be Israel, both fix bowflex Gutierrez junior.

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JOHN WARRILOW - BUILDING VALUE IN A COMPANY AND STRUCTURING IT CORRECTLY TO WIN IN B2B

The B2B Revenue Leadership Show

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JOHN WARRILOW - BUILDING VALUE IN A COMPANY AND STRUCTURING IT CORRECTLY TO WIN IN B2B

"Hey. Everybody is Brian Burns and welcome this episode of the. BBC Revenue Leadership podcast today because John. Warrilow on. He's the author of built to sell and the value builder system and what's great about John is he's gone through so many consultations with companies dealing with companies and how they're structured and how to sell them, how to build up their values so that they get more when they go to sell. Now you say, well, I'm not an entrepreneur how does this apply to me? This is so critical because how a company is structured financially from control standpoint and from an equity standpoint tells you so much. About how they behave and if you're even an employee, you need to know this because you need to understand who really has power who has authority who has control over the company, what their motive is what their timelines are so that you can determine if it's right for you if you're the owner of a business or the starter of business, you've got to think through these things because the problem is to a people get into it either one way or the other that just say, Oh, let's just split it fifty fifty and I've had a show about that and that just turns into a train wreck. And then there's the people who argue about every single percentage point four, you know six months of in the market goes away and they can't determine you know how to divide it up or the people who raise too much money or don't raise enough. All of these issues are critical and building a business and determining how well you fit in to that business, and if you make that mistake and you just assume that every company is in it for the long run or that you know it's just going to happen naturally and you're going to go public someday that. That might change. So this is a great conversation about how all this stuff works and gets pulled together. But before we get into it, make sure you're checking out PRESI, business PRESI businesses, what I use to keep track of my presentations when I send them to customers when after you show them it, they can get a copy of that. Sure. You give them a copy than they start forwarding around and people start looking at it. You get to see where it goes who looks at it. How much time they spend on each part of it very critical. Also check out the older episodes of the podcast there evergreen lots of great stuff coming up as well and connect up with me on linked in Brian G Burns on linked in. That's where I spend most of my time. Also check out the beat the B Rep be revenue, DOT COM, get your free e book on how customers make products selections I give you the inside story of how customers do that. It's not the way you think it's not like there's this buying committee, all the buyer's journey after twenty five years of selling enterprise, software and hardware. I. Got a sense of exactly how these decisions get made and documented in this free book is a real book. It's a book I took down off of Amazon and I put into. An e Book Format PDF. To sign up, you get a autoresponder email with the link to the book not the book itself just click on that link and you'll get the PDF version of it. That's it. Let's talk to John. Hey John thanks for joining us today a thanks. It's great to be with you tell us a little bit about your background. Yes that'd been involved in a in a few startups. My most recent one is called value builder where we work with entrepreneurs to help them improve the value of their business. It's a pretty interesting space. Isn't it? Yeah, it's it's face. A lot of people are trying to figure out and his a lot of business owners. As you know you know the the very focused on what they do and get really good at that but they don't spend as much time thinking about how to sell their company in a lot of ways. It's their largest asset right into their you. I went to a conference once it was a Verne Harnish Conference for a copy og. They've now since changed name. Remember I had a speaker came in and he said you know were sixty guys in the room mostly guys women and they said Okay guys put up your hand if you if you're selling your product and service of your company and you know eighty percent of the hands went up and he proceeded with monitor all of us and said, the worst thing you can do is is invest your sales skills in. Selling your product, what you should be doing always is selling your company and that's to investors to the media so that eventually that's going to be your largest asset, it'll be your biggest sale largest elaborate written. So it's it was a good reminder for me and you're the title of Your Book has had hurt you in some cases because you what I hear a lot of times I never wanted. So my business. Yeah, the the books called Bill Yeah books built to sell. So it is polarizing for sure. Great Pickup You it says what it does on the ten as they say in advertising land. meaning. The book is a bad. You build a sellable company We talk about the idea of a business you could sell not that you have to sell that puts in the driver's seat. You can. You can entertain unsolicited offers your have to sell but having said that there have been times where it's been a problem because you're absolutely right some people are like well, I want to sell for three five years. So why do I do book built the South? We eventually sort of overcome a lot of but but we do get some people that think it's still about selling. We're really it's all about. Building value. That's why we changed the name of the company actually my my that I am now was originally called the cell ability score. And it was it was again attractive to people who wanted to sell but but was sort of not something that worked for people who didn't want us out and so we actually rebranded in two thousand fifteen to value builder and the idea is you could value anytime that doesn't mean you have to sell, and so that's work much better for us, and that's it because you run into people all the time that have. You. Kinda. Take off after like the e myth where you get like the person who's really good at something and all of a sudden a businesses thrown upon them they have a lifestyle business and then he gets a little bit bigger and the kind of show some systems but then you take it the next level above how do you build value all of the business independent of You Was was nice to be compared to like the Bible of all. It's the I would never WANNA. Suggests that. We're in the same league as as the met but that that's very generous comparison. Yeah. I think that's right I. Think the idea is that we that once you built a business that's not necessarily. So dependent on you personally that's the precursor that's the foundation to building a company that someone might want to buy sometimes someday because of course, when a buyer comes in, they're going they know that once they write the check to you. That you've got one other beach and therefore they they've they. They need a business that's GONNA. It's GonNa succeed without you being in in in the seats up So that's the core tenant of of the book and a lot of what we do with valuable or is is is in A way I guess to to your point sort of to dotto on on the network where do you go from there? Yeah. Exactly. And what are the big mistakes that you see people making because? After doing this for a long time, you must just roll your eyes because our into the exact things that you're going to run into. Interesting. We see lots of mistakes. On the podcast I hear lots of horror stories about sellers. One of the things I, do this thing is podcast interview different entrepreneur every week like how how was your exit would go? One of the most common mistakes that people make is getting sucked into proprietary deal. So a proprietary deal is where a buyer private equity group or perhaps a corporate buyer comes in and in a any sort of God of war you into a conversation about the sale of your company you know that you should have competition but they they treat you nicely, they make you think that it's At you know that you have a really warm symbiotic relationship and then once you've signed a letter of intent, which which basically we started let letter pretend you almost always have to sign a no shop clause, which means that you agree not to shop business anybody else you sign that letter of intent all of a sudden, the tenor of the relationship changes both about hundred and eighty degrees You know they put their analyst on the deal. The analyst job is to find reasons why they should pay less than they already originally agreed to pay They drag out diligence they lower the price they've offered, and there's nothing you can do because you've been sort of sucked into this property or proprietary deal so that that's the biggest mistake I hear about sort of. Nausea and how about like in the early stages I've always seen is like cap tables just disaster. Because typically you know I've seen it like fifty fifty with no real definition of who has veto power or the shotgun clause or any way of getting out of it. Without either dissolving it or the other person or finding some crazy person who's willing to buy it. Yeah, you see a lot of a lot of that back the Napkins Agreements Partnership with. Whichever now recommend. I'm not a lawyer, but but I would talk to a good one. If you'RE GONNA go into a partnership. Yeah, I mean it's easy when you start out you, there's no value, your business writer tonight. and. So a lot of us can get a little bit of generous when were throwing around equity. So we give options to every employee starts with us because we want if all feel like we're rowing in the same direction, we all to you know you WanNa create that style team spirit that Camaraderie but it's not the only way in my view that you can incentivize line a team I think it's very expensive way frankly especially as your business grows, you get lots of of situations where. I can remember one where this guy that I interviewed. I won't share the name because I don't think he'd he'd want me to but but I interviewed him he built up a fairly large manufacturing company based in Calgary Alberta. and. Eddie built it up, and at one point he took an investment from a friend sort of a silent partner I. Think it was a couple of hundred thousand dollars in return for forty percent of a company which he felt felt at the time was you know reasonable evaluation for his company? Well, this was like a nine, hundred, seventy, eight, he sold it recently might have been eighty eight, it was it was years and your decades ago we sold it recently for sixty million dollars that forty percents. Is is a huge not right. It's it's twenty whenever twenty, four, million dollars great returns for the investor but. I think if you I did ask the Oh the owner like it was that good value and I think he regretted that that in the end now obviously, we do things as entrepreneurs because we we need capital raise I. I'm just suggesting the idea that that you are very stingy with your equity. You don't have to give every employee. You don't have to give you options to every everyone on your management team. There are other ways to incentivize people because one could be worth lot. Not only that is that a lot of don't understand what it is. I been through twelve. high-tech venture start-ups. Wow. You know and. Blow although there was some that we're huge exits three billion dollar exits and then others dissolved. Completely and you go through it and people don't understand you know the vesting period they don't understand. The venture people. Get paid out. In, even a lot of the entrepreneurs don't really understand that today you know that they they I get their money out then they get some multiple of what they put. All of the sudden what's left is what's For the founders and the employees and? So. Sometimes, it doesn't even motivate the people because they don't really understand it. Right. Yeah. That's absolutely true I. mean there's a reason, Osman entrepreneurs an employee's employee's that they. They have totally different risk profile and so I think look I think stock options can be can be motivating under the right circumstances if you're willing to educate invest time to do that. So you're your people understand at any of got frankly a business with a good shot at good liquidity event. The the reality is most businesses will never go through sort. Of, a High Tech Exit, right they are they'll go through a management buyout that might go through a family transition or they might go through a financial in many cases financial by a private equity company will come in and buy out either a minority or majority recapitalization of the business, and that just means that the buyer for your listeners I know you know this terms of your listeners when the when when a private equity company comes in. A recapitalization a minority recapitalizations when they're when especially buying a less than half of your company but they want you as the owner and founder to stay in the business to run because the practically coming doesn't have any management and so that's very common exit specially for companies with a million or two in Ebitda, where there's some longevity to the business. But met maybe not necessarily hyper growth almost always as long as it is inaccessible, million dollars of value. You're going to get product companies that are interested in buying the business. The the downside courses private equity acquisition generally is you're not getting out one hundred percent They like to talk about second bite of the apple but you. You could look at that as a as a coin with two sides on one hand. That's favorable thing because you get to sell your equity in two or three tranches hopefully, the second tranche at a higher valuation. The downside though is you're stuck in business for five seven years in your reporting to. Some guy in Connecticut Don't exactly lake doesn't understand what you do and has a whole different motivation. Yeah, he's probably thirty eight. Super Smart. Guy But it doesn't have a clue how to serve a customer or make a widget or. That Casa. So your company, what is the process that you take your clients through? Yes. So what we do is work with entrepreneurs to help them improve the value of their company We like to talk about W offers W value. So when people start with us, we have them complete evaluator questionnaire takes about fifteen minutes the average scores fifty, nine out of one hundred. Now, if you're able to achieve or ninety out of one hundred. So that takes time and work to. Work through the modules that we we do on average statistically you're more than twice as likely to get an offer for your business and your those offers are twice the value of someone scoring fifty nine on average. So W offers W value. So that's basically what we do and we've got a twelve step system. We take business sellers through we've got nine hundred coaches around the world in virtually every. WEST ECONOMY ENGLISH-SPEAKING ECONOMY THAT That take business owners through this process. And what are those big differentiator? Obvious, it's soul up owner or lifestyle business or you know there's nothing written down. Right to you mean, like, what are the drivers that company about? Yeah. Less. Yeah. Most people think they're values going to be determined by the industry that right. So they've heard some rule of Thumb Hey h VAC company sell for five times better Dr Counting Firms Trade for one times revenue and what we found. Is that companies can trade for half the rule of thumb or two three X. the rule of thumb if they focus on the eight key drivers company values. So some of the drivers are out recurring revenue is a big one. So, SAS companies know about that they trained on a multiple of revenue, but you don't have to be a software company to have recurring revenue h bloom an example as a couple of that that I wrote about recently where they've got a flower recurring revenue, they sell flowers on subscription. So they sell the spas and hotels, and so that's not an industry that you think of when you think recurring revenue or subscription revenue, but they've they've done it even in the business of selling flowers. So it's a recurring revenues a big one Another one this relates to I think a lot of the conversations that you have with your listeners. Is What we've got monopoly control. So We think about a buyer comes in and looks at a business and one of the decisions they make they're not gonNa tell you. They're making this decision but behind the scenes and their board room on their time, they're gonNA make the decision do we buy or build right is this company had this is this coming something so unique that would either take a subtle much money or so much time to basically rip off what they've done. And so you're the least valuable companies are selling commodity product because buyers GONNA look if you're selling by the inch by the pound they're gonNA look at that business and say we'll all we need to do drop our price by ten percent. To buy this company we could drop our price by ten percent in will basically win all his business or her business because they're selling a commodity and just based on price whereas if you've. got a product or service. That's it's highly unique that that really is a dominant player in the industry event bright as an example if if you ever managed events there, lots of SAS based event management products, but I think event bright is is by far and away the market leader would take years to catch up the where they built. Therefore, you know it's Unicorn with it with a billion dollar valuation. So what is it? What I, what I tell entrepreneurs is the common pitfall. Many of US fall into is selling too many things to too few customers and and the most valuable companies actually do exactly the opposite. They sell just a few things to lots of people. And so again, it's it's advocate just a play on words, but actually business model virtually opposite, right so least valuable company selling selling lots of things to a few companies. Most valuable selling few things to lots of companies, lots of people. Yeah. And that's what we saw in software all the time and you see today with facebook right because. They look at snapchat and say while we could buy it for twelve billion or we could just build it into instagram and in six months go. Somebody comes. Obvious decision. But when you look at say Microsoft's acquisition of Lincoln linked in had reached had out of network advantage it would be it would be very difficult for Microsoft to compete with that and even have all the money in the world Lincoln has a network effect right the more people are on it. The more impenetrable that model is and therefore worth whatever Microsoft paper link that I've forgotten, but it was thirty billion or something like twenty, three, twenty, three, billion. Yeah. So that's a great example of what. One of the second drivers have company value we talk about his monopoly control. Meaning what is it that you do that nobody else does and working and we're talking about John Catholic snapchat linked in. It absolutely comes down to main street businesses right. So if if you're a plumbing company and your point of differentiation is is your reliable will pick up the yellow pages or Google Plumber, and the first ten responses. The second word in their inner descriptions can say reliable. So if that's your. That's your claim to fame. It's not good enough. You need something that makes you different that that gives you an advantage that gives you pricing authority get. Something, that makes you different you know is it your hours? Is the the tenure of your of your your the people on staff is the custom whatever you you decide to hang your hat on it can't be the same as the other nine guys competing with or essentially you just commoditised I companies get acquired when they've got something unique. Yeah because I see that in this town that I live in, there's one restaurant that is like always packed four o'clock in the afternoon. The on Tuesday it is packed, and there's although those fifty other restaurants within walking distance. They're all kind of two or three people in it. and. Me and my buddy we look around and we go. You know the ambiance is nice. But it is it really much nicer. There's a Morton's there's a Ruth Chris there's. Big. Franchises right down the street is the food that much better. They've got a recipe. Well oftentimes in here's the here's one of the interesting things I find about you know building successful companies versus valuable companies because what he might find and I i. don't know the restaurant you're referring to but but what if you got to the covers of the restaurant you might find that they are successful because the owner is driving right unlike the Ruth Chris where they've got. Some manager, they're paint eighty grand a year to manage the thing. In this case, they've got an owner right and that owner make sure the Napkins or folded at just the right possible way that that customer comes in every Friday night has acknowledged in exactly the right way that the stake they buy is exactly the right way that it's age and it's the owner driving thing, right? And that can make a very profitable successful business, but it's not a sellable company. and. So as owners we need to decide, which is our prior do we want to have a lifestyle business where we know that people in our community that gives us a good living that that we're able to pull profits out of the end of the year. That's great at we need those businesses, but it's not sell the company if the goal is to sell it, then you've got to totally rethink the way you you approach you. And, you probably see that a lot is like when Ruth Chris you look at that as an example, ten years ago where I think it wasn't as franchised as much as it is today because now I live know walking distance to one of them. and. It's just gone totally downhill in the you know the menus identical the ambiance is identical, but the service is a little off. It's just not the same. and. Probably. I don't know restrictions bought by private equity backed. By Private? Equity. Group is ripping out all the heart and soul the company. Yeah. Well, that's IT I. Think your point about you know the the the accountants take over and they look into shave pennies off the margins to. Increase the stock price or the PE ratio. I mean we see this? I'm I live in Canada where we had this brand called Tim Hortons. Yeah. So Tim Tim Hortons is like I. I can't think of equivalent in the United States, but it is. The is the heart and soul of Canada like the customs agents when they want to prove your Canadian, they might ask you how do you take your coffee in the? Classic is like a double double that is like a Tim hortons order. It's like part like it's sewn into the infrastructure of the heart soul, the culture of Canada. So a private equity company goes buys to Morton's and they're all in their all about three G. They're all about driving the last penny of optimization, and of course, you know the entire things. Being, ripped apart, it's gone from I. Think the number three brand in terms of brand equity. In Canada, down to like number fifty and space at twelve months, they destroy tons of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars, a market value because they're they're they're just driving centers and again to take our or driving optimization at take to our conversation full circle. You know if you sell. For your listeners if they've got a million or two in Ebitda. You'll have private equity companies knocking on your door to buy your business be careful because they're not going to buy the entire thing you're going to buy a third of it were half of the two thirds bit and they're going to say you said, you hang out for another five years and and take a second by the apple problem that is your reporting to someone who doesn't understand you. They don't understand why you've been successful at understand your culture, your product in I mean I've I've seen it. So many times it can be brutal, and so you know careful who you you get into bed. That's it. Those those earn outs. Are, just killers for people because you're taking somebody who hasn't reported to somebody and maybe their whole life and all of a sudden they they have a boss and they have a reporting structure and a conference call and a cadence and around. Things that they've never had to deal with, and that's a cultural change Omega. When I sold at my last company. Was Back in two thousand AIDS. It was a public company and. A man we have. Weekly calls. The everything was screwed is what why are you doing it this way? Why are you doing that? They're probably just perfectly reasonable questions. In any other culture, any context but I bristled under the right like the idea that you're years what I perceived to be second guessing me was just. Fema to who I was right but you know but I don't think they were doing it in a a mean mean-spirited way but it's just it's the way big public companies have to operate right there. Right do shareholders so they need to know but it's hard for entrepreneurship through that for sure and your other big thing that I'm seeing a lot of technology services companies moved towards as well as marketing agencies is to more of a recurring revenue model whether it be monthly quarterly or annually. A. Is that a big driver in the value of a company? Absolutely arguably the biggest driver YEP so. You know marking service companies a classic plays Seo sem search engine optimization search engine marketing in particular search engine marketing because you know buying keywords is a menial, it's boring. Nobody wants to do it There's a bit of secret sauce involved in bidding and making sure you're you're optimize in terms of bidding. and is something that just changes all the time. So classic for Marketing Agency would be to say look, we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA take a basically outsource your search engine marketing you're buying Google keywords and being and so forth to us, and we'll do it on a monthly retainer or whatever at so much more valuable company if you built up a ten million dollar business doing. Sem for clients on on a recurring model is just so much more valuable than a ten million dollar marking Services Agency that works on a project basis like it's it's two three x more valuable in two or three times more valuable than just a project based marketing agency. And what's also good about having recurring revenue Is You'RE GONNA have you're going to get out you know Classic Way Marketing Services Company would be would be bought with the acquired. These days is usually around fifty percent up front and fifty percent on some sort future based performance, and it's usually a five year earn out. And so you know it's torturous torturous for creative soul to be to be in a in a five year earn out and your life blood sort of online too. So it's tough. But again, if you've got if you've got incurring revenue and you can demonstrate that the. Contracts occur and you're you're much better stop and I. Haven't been listener of your podcast for for a long time what I constantly here is a little bit of regret or. What I call institutionalization where the people the entrepreneur doesn't know what to do with themselves after. and. I had a buddy who just sold his company and I thought. It was way too soon. And I thought the runway was a lot longer I said, if you're sick of it, get an ops person that you can just offload everything you don't like. To do to someone else and work twenty hours a week. And now he doesn't know what to do himself. Is that something that you see a lot of Yeah interesting we do see a lot of regrets I think the biggest regret comes back to something originally I talked about, which is this idea when you get in bed with one company and don't go through professional process in other words, you don't get a competitive bidding process for your business. While the most common things we hear his regret saying out I might have left money on the table and it may not happen at the moment like civil rights you. It's shack with seven eight figures on it's like, oh my gosh, this is the most incredible life. got a thing. But a few months quarters years later I think we hear a lot of people say you know with hindsight water the bridge time to reflect I might have left. Money on the table and I think that rubs people the wrong way oftentimes, they get ground down in diligence they become emotionally. emotionally committed to the idea of selling, and at the end of diligence, the they acquire comes in and drops their price by ten or fifteen percent. That that causes a lot of regret because they feel like the bait and switch that didn't handle the process effectively. So so we do hear those kinds of regrets specifically around the money stuff UFC right? We also hear regret around people that that kind of doughnut what do now Always a good idea to have a project on the on the on the back burner two distinct I think or it doesn't have to a business by the way. In our case, we moved at like I, pulled up stakes in we move to Europe for three years and it was a big life adventure for our family. We you know it was a huge exciting time for our family, but it allowed me to forget about the company and not think about it much because we were in a different city everything was different, right? So. You. Don't have to do that obviously, but you know start another companies, start a foundation, take on a new sport that you're really committed to excited about. But the I think you do need something to replace all that mental energy that you use on your company, right? Yeah. I think it's something you have to think through in our and especially if you're a younger younger person right because via a lot of runway and the kids are off to college and you look around okay now, what do I do? Yeah. At the same time, it can be very liberating I talked to. Just, Tim ferriss about this Tim Ferriss. The Guy wrote for our workweek in huge global celebrity he. I had opted to speak with him once about the sale is first company which gave him the money to cut go in and start writing full time and I said, why did you sell it? I'm it was only obviously taking you for hours a week to run it the the basis of his book why sell why not just keep it as a lifestyle business and he said It was only four hours a week. But it was like operating system. My brain was in the background running antivirus software. If you've ever ever used a computer that's running antivirus software, you know slow you know is taking up a lot of CPU usage and so even though you're still able to use the computer, it's not worsen. You didn't interact with the antivirus software. But. It's weighing on the CPU and in the same way even though Tim's business was pretty much. operating without him. It was still mentally draining form and so that's why. I think I think that can be. That can be underestimated for Lonzo is entrepreneurs. How much mental energy even when we're not at the office that that our businesses take from us. Graceful. He's been a great conversation John, where do people go to learn more about you your company and what you're doing Yeah I think it's value builder, dotcom and Yeah. The all roads lead valuable as it were. So once you find me there, you'll find. Again I think the the questionnaire is a great place to start doesn't cost you anything takes fifteen minutes to get your valuable scores. Set a where you are on that zero to one hundred scale. Average business achieves a fifty nine show up leadbetter. was always a great conversation with John It's got a lot of experience, a lot of insight and seen a lot of stuff go down. 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HR 3: LeBron talks about his new teammates!

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HR 3: LeBron talks about his new teammates!

"John thank you very much for listening. We appreciate it. Momo you are my absolute favorite co host right now so if you did co-host rankings where would i be. You'd be right. Well let's see i. Brian cabinet ski. Andy cabinet ski. Oj jackson junior. freddie prinz. Jim are you about number seven number seven on my list. Honor yeah yeah. I miss the cabinets. They're good kids. They're they're good kids. I so lebron has spoken is on the road. Trip and podcast with richard jefferson and allie clifton. Which will be on spectrum. Tonight and dennis schroder was on our show and spectrum yesterday. First of all dennis schroder says honored to be a laker. Germany actually I was pretty. Excited is an honor. You know to wear purple goat My family was excited and An honor to be here in this organization and be a part of it. You know what we should all do yesterday. I asked dennis schroder how to say championship in german. Yeah we should play that back. We should learn that. There's i don't know i'm gonna do that but okay. We should learn. That aren't word. it wasn't easy. It was not an easy work or not so it was like No so what's that by the way if you wanna play it yeah yeah. Let's do you have it. we'll play. We'll play coming up so this is interesting. Schreuder was both on spectrum and on our show yesterday and he talked about wanting to be a starter. Here he is from spectrum. Yesterday i did this of the ben stuff already. You know two years. Okay see i think I tried to move forward in orlando grid bond i can be helpful at as a starter. Here's what he said on our show yesterday. I didn't talk to them about that situation. But i think my agent made it very clear i think like i said to come here talking to you soon and just like its biggest that form you you can get. I think just being a part of it is going to be fate. And here he is. He is looking forward to playing with lebron I'm looking forward to it. You know he's one of the the best players who ever you know touch the basketball and Been on nba. Floor i think you can really learn from lebron and he is willing to help everyone. You're not allowed him to get better and I'm looking forward to it. You know and It's all honor. You know to play for the lakers and rhythm as well. So here's what lebron says tonight on this road trip and podcast about dennis schroder and then we got the runner up six year and dennis schroder. So i call nickname he. I don't know if you like it or not. We have not had the conversation. But he's dennis the menace. Dennis where he brings it a game. It's a nasty. he's a doll. I let them get under the skin. He's a richard jefferson draymond green type. Guy if he's your teammate. You out of him if he's not sandy. You go have no idea if that's gonna stick but it is a good nickname now. Interesting part about that. Is dennis schroder both on spectrum and with us yesterday talked about his expectation of being a starter. And when i look at the lakers roster to me the starting lineup that i would draw up is you. Gotta you gotta have lebron at casey p wes matthews ad and marcus. Aw that feels like the starting lineup to me. What do you think yeah. I think that's the starting lineup. I don't know what they told. Shoot or his agent when they traded for him. It's of not up to him. It's a frank vogel. Whatever they do right. I'm sure that you have to understand his background. Schreuder was a a great up and coming player in atlanta when he signed a big contract extension. But i think it was like seventy million dollars extension off his rookie deal and in the middle of a contract he had some kind of it was an arrest. It was like an assault charge against him. I think it was like a fight at a hookah bar or something and amidst that he was traded to oklahoma city. So you remember that part of the interview. We did with him where he said you know. I talked to sam presi and he said come here for a couple of years and play off the bench and prove yourself etc. Like city was seen as a fresh start for him. It was seen as a way for him to rehabilitate his image. After how things had gone in atlanta all what had happened with that with that charge. And that's why she's making fifteen and a half million this year. He was sure he made a lot of. This is the last year of that contract. And if you're schreuder who finished second in sixth man of the year voting last year and has had did do a good job procam sitting. They did. He did exactly what they asked him. This is a contract here for you. Like you've now got to prove that you deserve that kind of money going forward. Because i don't know if he would get it right now but here if you're the six men and you play starters minutes. The significance of not necessarily starter. I think it only comes down to what what you think. You're going to get paid on the open market. I really mantra zero. Six man of the year and didn't really have Didn't really get rewarded for lou. Williams been sixth man of the year. Hasn't really gotten big paydays. So there is some stigma to issue. You come off the bench that maybe you don't necessarily get rewarded payday. Wise like if you're cow coosa kusa feels like he should be starting. He feels choice. Starters minutes now. What's his extension or are they gonna do that. I don't think they need to i. If i were the lakers. i wouldn't. I would just say. I restricted free agency. Yeah it's just restricted free agency. And it's like yeah you want him to be happy and you want him. He's obviously would be a lot happier if you gave him a big contract. But you don't have to ties up your money for in the future makes him in a in a way it would increase his value Because of your trading. I could be a restricted free agent. He doesn't have as much trade value. But if you have him under contract for few years helps the trade value so you know it just depends on what he kind of money. He's looking for i. I personally think coups like bay should play it out. He should play it out. Because i think the only thing they can do is rebuild his value and he can build up his is to get an contract. Yeah i'm not coups. Got to improve. I thought defensively. He improved a lot like really hard defensively in the bubble and specifically in the playoffs but he needs to improve his three point stroke. He was snow a shot. Thirty one percent from three during the course of the regular season. You've got to be better. You got to be better than that. I agree with you. I think he's got to be better. He knows that but he's also had a lot of little passive aggressive kind of statements by everybody knows i should be a starter i you know. I think i've earned that. But on this team i gotta do it. I gotta help us when like he definitely wants a bigger role. I get that don't you. I mean you know he's capable of more if anything it might be hurting his standing in the league but you also want a championship and we're weirdly now weirdly now got an interesting situation because with mantras and we assume schreuder coming off the bench. We'll just we'll just stipulate that Kuzma is probably the third guy off the bench. Yeah i think is not the six-man anymore. Yeah he's not and the question is could he be in that wes matthews spot. Could he start in that role That would be if they were going to start. That's that's what i would do it. But i don't my argument i wouldn't because i don't think he's a good enough three point shooter. He hasn't proven to be the person that role has to be a a deep threat that defenses respect respect west more than they would coups as shoot. Yeah yeah All right so yesterday. I mentioned i asked dennis schroder how to say championship in german. And i don't speak german. I didn't take terminal high school. Momodou i did. Not however. I have german relatives so i do know a few german words and lynch dylan german. I took it for four years. It really retain a whole lot but that's the problem conversation. I took two years of spanish in high school. I took two semesters at college. I took a berlet's class and still my spanish is incredibly wildly. Although jorges hoping to get there he's i learned a few words from every day i it spanish class Now here is dennis schroder and the way you say. Championship in german microsoft. Yeah i think. Microsoft is is the best way i there. You go not that hard mice speech off. I heard microsoft microsoft mice. Desc off. Maestas shaft my shots mice that stuff. Yeah i think. Microsoft is is the best way for skill mice. Detach no my stuff all right there. You have it. I doubt that will. I will not retain that in the same way. Spanish to german has some funny word. They have a lot of like to she. Kinda words right like there's the let's go on like else farts or or else gang whenever you walk around in the public signs. There's just like a lot of words that. Make me giggle yes. It's a complicated language. That i have no grasp of all right coming up next for. You is the scoop. Momo and i both have some of the stories of the day that we haven't talked about yet don't know. I think this decision came from on high. Didn't what's are it came from some in it. Just it's a good idea investigation. Okay so here. We go number one most performers have a ritual something they do every time they go on the air or on stage or on. The field. Here is marshawn lynch on the espn plus series. Peyton place talking about his pre game ritual. You believe in superstitions. I'll read the program front to back. Whatever we before the game you know by the end of the season you know where every accounted for. The colts went to college. What what was your muscle over citizens that i needed to have. Maybe a shot a shot and a half before every game of which gatorade later all right the locker room in seattle schneider backpack jot. It could backfire. Just bring the hennessy in your backpack to a shot or a half before a game mo on the air whether it is or on the many shows you appear on which include the job in around the horn. Do you have any rituals any good luck things that you do. depends on if i'm nervous or not you're nervous what do you do If i'm nervous. I do do some reading. I i read stuff. I like if i'm hosting. I'm definitely nervous. And i prep and i think through lines and i was like leading this show which i had the for one time when you guys were both out. God help i got. I got some of my teens is written and called lindsey abundance right like we talked at all through and sure you know i i kinda overprepare a little bit when i have okay but you don't really have any particular now. When i was playing. I had some rituals i definitely had. I had a lot of I had touched my bat. Four times on the ground and then three times in the air and then i had to wear this special shirt underneath dodgers raul mondesi shirt underneath my jersey stuff. Yeah that is weird so my pre show ritual is about a half hour before i go on the air. All right i have a quintuple quintupled. Iced latte whoa. And i don't even like the taste of coffee chug it. 'cause i want jet fuel to go on the store about twelve thirty. A magic me polishing off a quintupled iced wate. That's yeah do you ever do you get them now. Do you have go out to starbucks to get them. Yes that's what you see. You go out seventy for the day that is my time for going out is when i go to starbucks and go through the drive through. So that is my pregame. Ritual pre show ritual. Lynn's good hit that. I was waiting for the sounder. Okay okay that's all around the sun bowl which has been played every year since its inception in nineteen. Thirty five has been canceled. Because ovid pandemic not was scheduled to be played in el paso texas on december thirty first. But a pasos been dealing with surging. Kobe cases the symbol is the night ballgame canceled because of covid. The bahamas fenway hawaii. Holiday bowl motorcity. Pinstripe and red box bowls are the others the sun where do i know it pits the acc and the pac twelve acc has now locked. Four of its ballgames. That had tie-ins may what is going to happen with bull games this year. Well i mean it's impossible. I think to actually host a ballgame. Don't you think right now. Yeah what's the fans safely. And then they say like three weeks. It's going to get really bad going into all that stuff that december say. Yeah so. I think it's going to be really tough to host bowl games here that ties into my question though college football. Total mess right now. Usc had their game with undefeated. Colorado cancelled outright on saturday by the end of the season. Ohio state will only have played six games. Because they've had to cancellations. Technically as of the rules go right now. Wouldn't qualify for the big ten championship game. This is the year this is it. The season is a mess. Should whoever wins the college football playoff have an asterisk next to their name. You know i kind of i. I thought in baseball. I thought that basketball. Like maybe there's a. There's an asterisk. But now i really don't have seen what happened in those sports. The team that won it was actually had to overcome. The most was actually like a more meaningful championship. And i don't just say that because the lakers. And the dodgers won. I think there is if you're able to be disciplined enough to control the amongst your team. Which means a lot of the you know college. Kids are not going out. Probably they have to stay in their dorm and try not to catch. Cove it all the time. They have to be really disciplined and also lucky. If you've survive this and you got enough winds and your undefeated. Yeah i think you deserve it. I think i think college. Football is a mess and we should throw out this year's college football. And i and i'll start with this. I mean is three and we have no idea how good they could be. It would have been interesting to see them. Play colorado but that game is not going to be rescheduled at this point. Which means usc at the end of the day will played only five games. Which i think by the eye test and the committee were never know although they would have to be oregon pac twelve championship game but still five games and the pac twelve championship game. I don't think it's enough to get into the playoffs. And we'll never know what the trojans might have done with the full season. We'll never know what any of these teams might have done with a full season. I mean ohio state at six. No should be in the college. Football playoff having only played six games. I think they have to make a decision. Yeah i think. If if i think one of the best teams so it's not their fault. All those games got cancelled and they had an outbreak amongst themselves. The coach got it. I think it's it's you have to just. It's going to be a little more. I test this year rather than record and who rate. But yeah i like. I'm in favor of going forward with our college. Football playoff one. Because it is they've they've done it safely so far people have definitely caught it. We haven't we haven't seen any really serious. Have you seen any really serious complications from it. So far i don't know of any complications. Cases were symptomatic or asem yadda because they never release that information. But i but teams have been you know. People look at the denver broncos. They lost all three quarterbacks. Yeah so it is it is wreaking havoc and by the way and then and just to just to talk about this. I mean baltimore and pittsburgh which is going to be played tomorrow afternoon. You know why it's being played tomorrow afternoon. Yeah there's a tree lighting ceremony or something raise. Their lighting of the rockefeller center christmas tree tomorrow night. But i mean. Is it really fair to put baltimore out there. Without lamar jackson to face an undefeated. Steelers team I mean to me. This is a great matchup. And you're you're screwing it up by playing it now with the ravens with twenty people. The covid list. I just don't even know how you feel the team. And i don't think there's it doesn't help the integrity of the league. I think at this point well the ravens haven't been able to practice. They haven't been able to prepare it all but not even allowed in their facility. So like i just hope nobody gets hurt tomorrow. Man they play that in the middle of the day. It just seems like a really bad idea. They should have just postponed the game. Because now you have really short week with both teams that are actually in it. By the way. By the way i would i would immediately take week. I would add a week. Eighteen to the season and moved back to play offs and then weak eighteen. You would make up all the games that you lost. During the year like this game should be moved to week eighteen. That's right and then push the playoffs back a week. There's no harm in that. I mean who cares if the super bowl is in late february as opposed to early february. I mean it really doesn't matter it's the only show in town so i just think some of these games need to be added to a week eighteen in the nfl and as for college football. I've watched three usc games. Two of them were thrillers and they came from behind they were. They were entertaining football games. But i think college football. I'm just. I'm just done with for this year. I'm i'm not even i'm not even following it. Who's who's up for the heisman. Right no clue. I just fields. Just field says the ohio state fan okay. Hey yesterday was cyber. Monday and one of the up popped into my mailbox. Well something. I thought you might like With the dog camera your dog will feel like you're there even when you're not this camera not only lets you see and talk to your canine companion but it also lets toss treats to him when you're not home. It hasn't night-vision hundred sixty degree wide angle view day and night and a barking alert that detects when your dog is barking and can record videos. May i know your home all the time now but. Is this something that you would do like if your dogs missed you when you're on vacation when you're at the office but you'd be like sending troops to check in on them all day. Let me tell you this. Our dogs get all the best i mean. We've got cameras all over the house so that when we're not here we know exactly where the dogs are barking. We know if they're scratching at the door. We know if they're a boston against the window. All that kind of stuff. We know how so. We've already got that situation. We can't give treats but i'll tell you that when we leave town on vacation when we used to do things like that. The dog sitter who lives here in for a week. How she expensive she expensive it add. It adds price to the The actual vacation but our dogs could only the best. I don't think i would go quite this far would you. You don't have a dog you know we have a cat. I've never had anyone. Come stay over to play with the cat But i i don't care yeah. Yeah okay. Yeah i think they're okay without contact and stuff. We've boarded our cat before. I kind of feel bad about that but at least i know that. She's getting fed and watered play. They play with her a couple times a day. So that's good rather do that. Lever in the house for two weeks since will extreme But yeah. I think it's the one thing. Have you ever watched those videos. What your dog does when you leave like you've got to go pro and it's like unbelievable what happens as soon as you leave my dogs. Just go to sleep. Oh really yeah. There's lay down go to sleep. Go to the ballet down. There's horrible videos of like dogs as soon as as soon as the human leaves. They just cry and run around. The house will frenzied for dogs. Create no trouble whatsoever. How they are super mellow when. We're not home mice. I'll tell you what coming up next for you. Interesting report about the warriors and nimes harden will do that coming up plus another reason. George clooney is the coolest guy in the world. That's coming up next for you. Then we got game a game and it is a momo's game today almost game. Don't think it's going to suck suck. It may not be good. But i don't think it will suck mason and ireland seven seventeen. Espn thank you very much for being out there. Thank you very much for listening. I want to add one thing to the conversation. Today is the day of giving all across america and our charity at At espn is the v. Foundation to fight cancer. One hundred percent of every dollar goes to four cancer. And if you can if you're able to even if it's five bucks make a donation. Go to v dot org slash. Donate the dot org slash. Donate it is v. Week all week long here on. Espn all right. So i'm interested in this. We'll get to the clooney story in just a minute but this is shams toronto and i have no idea. It's from the complexes load management. Podcast are right. He talked about the warriors and james harden. I mean the rocks are expecting james harden to be in training camp and You know he. He clearly made it known to people within houston that he wants to be on a contender. Somewhere else. i don't think talks of a really progress. On tart i think you had several teams inquirer of like the teams. I just mentioned i. No the warriors at one point made a call in for james harden. I heard that one A little bit before the injury to play. So the warriors made a call on james harden. What's your knowledge of that memo. I'm not saying that's wrong. I just don't have any knowledge of that. Okay i got it. I'll say i'll say this. I don't see that at all knows a film. I don't get that. I mean steph and james harden together. That's why i can't see why they would do that. I think they would make a call because you should make a call. You just like the lakers should make a call. Why not make close see what they want to see. If there's any like you never say. Never i mean it stupid to not make a call but sometimes also the worst really big trade exception. And so there. I know that houston had called around the league. I think there's been a lot of talk about maybe trade. Pj tucker and some other guys on that team Pj's obviously defensive player etc. So you know the houston is going to be active this year. I think in in in some of their moves and so the the warriors before they signed kelly oubre had a big the traded for him. It'd be trade exception. So you know maybe a call seeing if they could use their trade exception on somebody on the rockets if the in conjunction with an overall harder deal hardened gonna move at all you know. I don't just gonna play there and be miserable. I think he. I think they're both gonna play there because if i'm houston. I don't move james harden this year. I make a play because to me. You don't move him until you get home. Run package you just take all year to see to wait for somebody to really knock your socks off with a offer you because you only get one. If you you decide you're going gonna trade him. You only get one chance to do something like that a player. We just like when. Kobe wanted to be traded. And dr of you know they. They had some chicago. It fell apart. And he's dr bus essentially just said no. There's nobody i can get a no package can get it back for kobe. That's worth it and it does really good. He didn't train him. Yes it is up campionships right thing a lot of the time. Yeah i mean andrew. Bynum got better. That's the infamous parking lot video right. Where the toby wanted. Andrew by traded for jason kidd. Just right Then they end up you know then they promise him we're gonna we're gonna work to make the team better than go out and trade for pao ghazal buying them get good and all of a sudden. They're back in the finals that year. So if i'm the rocket. I don't trade harden until i figure out what i'm doing with westbrook and i just don't see a market for westbrook like the only team that to me. Charlotte made sense but now that they drafted lamelo doesn't make sense. Does century more. Yeah i think the knicks but to me. If i'm the if i'm the next you would retraining for westbrook for the box office appeal and there's no fans this year so point. Yeah you're not going to sell more tickets. What are you doing bottom out. Now if i'm tibbs. Tips doesn't like tank. Tips doesn't lose. So if there's one person in the organization who's like get be some talent here. Give me some guys. It'd be the new coach so it'll be. It'll be interesting to see what the knicks do. Because they're they're a team that could make a move like that. It's just a matter of whether they should because next year's draft is really good and okay probably the best move for them. Mr just suck and trying to get a really good. Pick all right so George clooney is i mean. Would you say coolest guy in the world. And now that he's married with twins and stuff. Yeah because before. I thought he was like forever a bachelor house like it's not being On late call with his family and saudi thing comes out today that for twenty five years. Who george clooney has cut his own hair. Why dusing afloat. Maybe what's lobi afloat. He is a haircut device that you hook up to a vacuum cleaner and hurled. Yeah you don't know what a flow is. No but i know. Now that you say the wayne's world thing okay so you hair cutting device that you hook up to a vacuum cleaner okay. Yup and that's how he cut his goes those big lord shows when he goes in red carpets when he goes to. I don't know cans or any of those places. How does is does. His own hair cuts his own. Hair doesn't go to some fancy stylist. Just hooks it up to the vacuum cleaner. And let's guys and i think that makes george clooney even cooler than he was before i heard the same sale. I'd coming up next for you is game of games in today is a momo's game that is go mason. Ireland seven ten. Espn i here. We go and his game of games time and it is a brand new month. I intend to win. this war. intend to win. So far in june lindsay won the mont in july ireland. One in august lindsey one and now ireland has won two months in a row three months in a row. Do yeah three months in a row because he will. Ireland is on on a whole new month brought to you by power pro plumbing and heating powerful professional affordable. It's who they are. It's in their name their our plumber and they wanna be yours to call one eight hundred five eight four forty one sixteen or visit power pro plumbing dot com. Alright momo what do you got okay. I literally am just going true. False trivia questions case trivia tour false got set on questions so we have an odd number. Okay just ignore it game. No no no. We're going to go around. we're gonna go to. We'll go to got got all right. all right okay in the six teams do not have cheerleading squads. The buffalo bills chicago. Bears cleveland browns. Green bay packers and new york giants. The packers do however use a collegiate squad to cheer at their home games. Is that true or false. I'm going to say that is true lens. I think it's false false. And i'll say it's false false. That is actually true. The all those all of those teams. I mentioned our cold weather towns and they have just sorta found that doesn't really work to have cheerleaders when they're not scantily clad and it's yeah there were a lot more teams without cheerleaders. Yeah only six six all right. What's next okay. When shaquille o'neal retired in two thousand ten he had missed a total of five thousand three hundred and seventeen free throws over his career. The most in nba history by almost five hundred missed free throws over the course of his nineteenth seasons he shot five and a half percent better from the field than he did from the line. Is that true or false lindsay. False also. True true. I will say true. Also that is false will missed fifty eight hundred free throws in his career. We still more than four hundred than any other four hundred more than any other player mason. One lasi one create the board. Cleveland indians pitcher. Ray caldwell recorded a complete game against the philadelphia as nine hundred. Nineteen after he was struck by lightning in the middle of the ninth inning. Caldwell just shook it off and got the final out for the win. Is that true or false false false. I'm going to say that's true. Lynn chance it's definitely true yet. That is definitely true lindsay. Did you know that as a fact. Shirted his i should not have picked a cleveland thing she that was that was so random right. That's okay my dad got struck by lightning once during a brown duty really. Oh yeah whole story. How did it did it. It shook him up. There's a real funny story behind it. If you remind me tomorrow. I'll tell it yeah. Lightning lindsay's will bring that up tomorrow. All right momo okay Michael jordan played his college ball at north carolina but playing for the tar. Heels wasn't his first choice in fact he actually root for kansas growing up and wanted to play for the jayhawks. Except they didn't recruit him. Is that true or false. That's back to me. I'll say it's false lindsay. I'm going to say that it's false as well all right. Also you're all right. He grew up rooting for an nc state and he actually wanted to go to ucla. Oh how did you know that what could have been okay. What's what's the count count. It is mason three lindsay three one. Okay i got two more questions left here anymore. three more. okay okay. One thousand nine hundred until one thousand nine hundred. Twenty tug of war was a sporting event at the summer olympics. Is that true or false lindsay. True or false false. I'm going to stay true lenzi base. You're correct more was considered part of the athletics programme. Great britain was awarded the most battles in the event with five golds. Congratulations to the brits for that all right. A study published in cycle psychological. Science looked at nearly sixty thousand. Mlb games and found that temperature was the most effective indicator of weather. Pitcher would retaliate. If a team was being by the opposing pitcher specifically the chances of a pitcher. Purposefully retaliated against the batter went up five percent. If the temperature was at least ninety degrees. is that true or false false whereas says false. I'm going to say that is false. I'm going to say that it's true. True lindsay is the only one who lindsey takes. A lead is amazing. They say you know you're hot right. Turn your yeah. That was a five percent temperatures over ninety degrees. I do get irritable when it's hot. Okay this is the last one. I need this to tie the favourite for the wooden award. This year is a player named luke. Garza lindsay. Lord isn't it award is okay true false. What do you think. Work false false. The only way i can tie is safe false. It's actually true that is true for the wooden award. He plays one iowa with the wind. The first of december congratulations lindsey. It is still going to be my month. I can promise you mr december. That's what they call me. December got it. All right got some. How was the game. The game was totally respectable. Way like not bad and not weird. It was good. I liked it not very like i'm gonna. I'm gonna live on that for this. This is a grand slam coming up. Next is purgatory. We'll get. George nells ian here to to kick it around with us. Mason and ireland seven ten. Espn it is my well advertised. Ulcer georgia's here. Are you doing george. I'm good. I'm enjoying this alfie music. I haven't heard this in a really really long time now. That is an amazing poll. That you just and went. That's the al theme music. Just ignore it did you guys watch out was the only one. But i wouldn't be able to pick out the theme. I couldn't tell you an actor. I couldn't tell you a story. I contain anything out other than was alien life. Form was the acronym walked in. You know who alpha's right. Yeah yeah and willie was really. That was the the the actor that would that was like the dad on the show or whatever didn't used to eat the cats and stuff he wanted to eat the cats all. Yes yes that is correct. Moma would not be able to hang out with al because almost a cat person so i wanna get away by the way do they. That was the era. We kinda stopped with like like theme songs to shows. Feeling friends was like the last one that had this real like then they'd make that song just for them. Did they filled changed because they did. The quick thing like the breaking bad has the theme song. I've been listening to that. Game of thrones button. What sitcoms on tv. Yeah had plenty of like there were like. The theme song was a big deal. Fresh prince i missed wrap that one regular notre jewish song. They can only cautious on the playground. Where i spent days rate on. Don't stop don't stop to get enough. Think oh no and now. I'm mixing it up with another song. How did it go Get my neighborhood. Got in one little. Oh no no. That's that's where cab and when it came near there we go here. We go turned upside down like to take a minute. Just sit right down. Hakim belair see in. Were just well enough. It's a person knows nothing. You look like a genius. Yes yes yeah. So so. I saw this or not. You probably about the monoliths that are popping monoliths so there are thirteen foot high monolith that are popping up around the world. There was one in the utah desert. Now it's gone now. Then there was one in romania by some holy mountain. It's gone i. I'm sure it's gonna pop up somewhere again and simultaneously. Did you see the fireball. The asteroid that came down hit japan. No twenty twenty is just now. We got monoliths. We got murder hornets. We've asteroids what the hell is left. Did you hear about the minx that came back to life. Fine yes they were. They had covert right. Yes and they were. They came back to life like freaking zombies and have to be reburied. What's wa uh yeah you. You weren't familiar with that story. I mean they had copen and they they thought they were dead. Is that what happened. Yes zombie minks in denmark. So i'll read it here for you. Then mark plans to dig up thousands of dead minks coal to prevent the spread of corona virus after the animal started to rise out of their mass graves. Hundreds of dead minks emerged from their burial sites according to danish state broadcaster. Talk come on. It's believe breezy the gas used to kill them 'cause their carcasses to swell and resurface media dubbed them zombie minks await. Here's something else. You're listening to caspian it. I'm going to at hang the only this is the. Id game mating anywhere. You're on top of it baby. You are surging back. Yes you're totally sagging. Thank you all right along right now. May i'm on slopes okay visitor. Talking about the monolith in utah. All right got visitors have left behind a mess of human waste cars parked on vegetation and other debris in that area where the monolith was in utah and the mysterious structure that evoked the movie two dozen space odyssey generated international attention to plenty of speculation. The the photographer has told has has said that they actually saw four. Men come to the remote utah side friday night and push over the hollow stainless steel object. Right after it quote right after it had fallen over and made a loud thud. One of them said this is why you don't leave trash in the desert ross. Ross bernard's told the salt lake city tv station. The group broke down the structure into pieces. Loaded it into a wheelbarrow and let you are really ruining our fun as they were loading it up and walking away they just said leave no trace so maybe eight minutes and then it went up in romania. Why romania. I mean maybe it's like an environmental group. That's trying to make a big statement. Hey elsie we were talking about today. What was i wearing talked about it. Yeah horry says that if he was on who wants to be a millionaire. You would be as phone a friend dude. I thank you so much. Better call meena meena really. She's really good at this. I i'm unproven sites prospects of suspects. I'm suspect brother. Well i talked about this because we played the meena cut yesterday as well and by the way mine is gonna join us at four thirty on thursday. Talk about this. Who wants to be a millionaire episode and other stuff obviously to football. But i told them i said listen. Notice respect to me. No but if it is any sort of political question or historic question in regards to politics and senators and the president and vice presidents. I'm calling. I no disrespect. No would you have known the answer to that george. I president without electricity nobel z. Did would elsie. You would have known unhealthy. I knew the answer. Only because i knew the back story. Because they were afraid of it. He was afraid of electricity blah blah blah and also knew because i believe as grover cleveland who he defeated before and then he ended up getting squash. Re-election bid by gorry cleveland so it was like a cork in our history where you know where the same guy was elected twice the president and between with the guy was scared of getting shocked by electricity. Yeah bottom line is you would have known. Yeah by the way have you guys seen the commercials for this. Oculus thing. That vr thing. Yeah i've seen it yeah. Do we really trust facebook dewitt. Trust phase no. I have it but do we do you trust. Buy anything from facebook. Because i don't hey guess what i got sent one of those george. They were doing an awards show. Okay remember when. I did the podcast. Yeah what what. What if i told you that i won some awards for it and they did a virtual awards show this year because you know that kind of stinks like kind of looking forward to the league banquet food and stuff getting dressed up. But they did a virtual award for the gracie's this year and they sent us the facebook. Oculus and i started logging in and i was like in use my facebook account that i was like nope. I don't want you having some device that has that. I'd be like looking on mead at any moment that could turn on. I don't think facebook video game. Yeah but i don't trust anything made by facebook. Now we have and really. yeah yeah. We thoroughly enjoy playing them but to you guys is point when we're done playing with them. They go inside of a cabinet in the living room that we only go in when you're watching network television okay. A very specific space fight. Because it's dark right because it is a little concerning the way that we now know. Facebook has been using and abusing access to our inflation. Your alexa listens to you. I'm very careful around alexa. She's a snitch. Yeah she is absolutely nosy as hell. Yeah sometimes yeah just say lexus. And she's like hey and it's like talking about you car wanna get one day. I'll tell you i. I mean facebook new. I was pregnant before i did. I literally i. I posted on his account. I i was like searching for early pregnancy symptoms. Okay i was like. I wonder if that because we were trying and i was like i wonder and i was like searching for it in google all of a sudden i started getting ads in my facebook feed for like pregnancy things. There you go for mom to come on facebook. Pregnant knew enough to put those ads. Mcvay assumed they assumed based on google search did a whole search. And i was like what all listen there have been times and i have talked about stuff air okay. Yeah and i'm sitting here in front of my computer with my email open and all of a sudden i'll get an email for said thing that we were just i mean they're listening right. Oh this we've done. Some innovation projects the number of companies. That have now found their way into my social media. Feed that does things like windows and stuff like that. I'm like you know what i at this point on the grid so it's not i can find it by leaving the grid like i'm on the grid so it's like. How much am. I going to allow this to bother me okay. That there is dropping controlling my life. Get this just popped up in my an email. What your promos pregnant google nest ad. We just talk. We literally were just talking about google facebook all that stuff chess talking about it. See do you guys cover up the little camera on your computer with tape. Yeah but it's clear tatum's tickets to see me right. I don't know y'all because it's only in i in an office. The only time people come in and out of here are to use the computer. And that's it. They're in their out like watching you. Man i mean sure fine but i'm not doing anything other than doing my radio. Show in here or occasional work. Like today i know toobin to on that tuban tuban. Yeah the the occasional zoom interview like. That's pretty much the only thing happening and there has been going on during those though. I did tell you what. I'm glad you brought that up. Because i did just remember. I told you. I'm working on this. Kobe project so i talked to shane batty today. And i asked shane and he was tremendous. So i wanna give it all away. Because he was unbelievable for fifteen minutes about kobe and i asked him about like any of the good trash talk that they had he said you know. It's funny. Kobe and i did not have a lot of. We didn't have any real trash talk with each other but koby the mind games were always there so i said well. What's the greatest kobe. Trash-talk you've heard from me one of your teammates throughout the years. And he said mike miller told me one about tracy mcgrady that was tremendous and i said well. Okay so what was it. He said that kobe was they. Were playing the magic. Okay and it was tracy mcgrady. Mike miller were playing with magic back then and that tracy had like forty points in the first three quarters. Okay so the fourth quarter about to start and mike miller said that. Kobe walked up to him and said you know what the difference between me and him is and mike. What and he's like he's done. I'm just getting started. and he. We now scored twenty points in the fourth quarter and won the game and she was telling that story. That is yeah. That sounds very kobe. Yeah yeah what's what's the story for. It's about people who had to defend kobe. Bryant during games is it for sportscenter. What's it for It's it's it's going to be a written piece but it's also going to have a video component to it. Yeah okay got it got it. So you're like multi-platform mold platform. I learned from. You know you're you're you're the one that guided me into this light multi platform. That's that's the that's the that's the new word right. It's like three d. guy multi-platform type lot one plumber one platform guy. You gotta podcast podcasts. Yeah yeah culture. Many you have so many platforms. You've lost track of me. I know i have your right mace. I would love to see you hamming it up. Cuomo stop like. I think you need to go on one of those local tv shows. Because you're steve mason like you literally. Just tell any of those people. I wanna to go on your show and they should. They be like okay. Yeah absolutely and you just go in there and just take charge and just ham it up like pal chris cuomo would and i just dominate. I love chris cuomo. He is so good he is so good. No i i did the. I did the weekend sports for fox and did good day. La for a few hours tv. I get tired of tv. It's just reading words. It's like yeah it's it's the it's easy to just read words so i got. I still get co. Will you comment on this. Where you comment announcing no not really. I don't really wanna go through the hassle of that could be on the other thing too. Is that yeah you're you. You have to get dressed up. You got to get dressed up. You know now that i'm but you know you used to get really like every time i do the show from home now. I have to like get put like real close on. I mean i don't ever wear real close anymore. Do you guys accept. We work right now. I'm where's he literally wore my jammies for the show today. I am wearing the recreate eighty-eight shirt that lebron had a couple of weeks ago. Now how did you get that shirt. I ordered it online. I found the place he got it from it. I ordered it kinda all right. Hey what are you guys. Got coming up today. We've got our pal kirk morrison stopping by four forty. We are going to get into the rams kind of versus the seahawks. Because i think that there is a real battle to be had between those two teams and there's gonna be another matchup. There could even be a playoff matchup. Potentially and i'm a little worried the ramp so we're going to dive into that gonna try to talk me off the ledge. How clifton is gonna stop by her. Yeah allie from spectrum. Sports from the lakers broadcasts. A podcast called the road trip in podcasts. With our buddy richard jefferson. We actually play right. They had lebron. So we're going to talk to her about chatting with the brand and everything lebron said and and have some fun with her and she's also only bad at pop culture so we're gonna make fun of her for not knowing pop culture. Oh nice good. Well i'm sure she's looking forward to that. We're back tomorrow at one. O'clock sharp coach sean. Mcvay will join us and these guys will take you the rest of the way george chelsea.

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The Conspiracy Farm Ep. 166 John Tobacco

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The Conspiracy Farm Ep. 166 John Tobacco

"Live your life boy. Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the conspiracy faw where we. Don't start to conspiracies. We just had the water in now. Your host of the most state of the yard in four cast on the inter-web i present to you ladies and gentlemen rear naked. Choke a cocker spaniel brian. Cumberland's a neighborhood of farm. Go check it out. What's up guys. That's how many people are in here right now but just waiting for patrick j as well as our guess for the evening mr john tobacco really looking forward to this episode. Everybody's doing well. Like i said i guess we'll be here in just a moment for those who've been wondering aware we are where we have been. I think i mentioned this in our last live stream with sunny pujols Youtube hasn't been very friendly to us. And we're never really been a big fan of youtube so we still will continue occasionally posting these types of videos livestreams may be q. and a. and such but Yeah we are. We've kind of changed things up a little bit so we put all of our shows under one broadcast that podcast network So if you can find it on here in youtube and like i said we will still occasionally be posting stuff like this on the youtube channel but all of our s fade pretty. Much is now under the name of that podcast network which include that umbrella has all of our shows. It's me speaking to you Everything combat as well as The conspiracy farm. So if you punch that in most of our normal podcasts spotify soundcloud. I tuned. You should be able to find like i said. We haven't completely abandoned the old Youtube but it's It's it's just not really for us. Switched stuff we're on. Rock vin rockville dot com front slash podcast network soundcloud all that other good stuff We have patrick military ready to go. Pat how we doing brother. Hey how you doing. I'm doing good man. We are waiting. mr tobacco's appearance. Just getting fired up here. Thank you for joining us on sort of late notice i can i can. It was just Yeah they don't like it literally might. I'm we got strong internet here. Man it never ever hasn't. We had never had an issue. I've got all bar so i don't know. Yeah no it's not you. It just gave me a it just gave me a notice that it was buffering or whatever but again we got a very strong internet here on any other circumstance in any situation except for when we come on here. But how you doing brother doing all right. I'm sorry johnny on no not quite yet. No not yet. I'm doing all right. Man just You know watching the development phase shift on down the we do have johnny tobacco on the line here. Let me add him to the conversation. That's great fantastic. Your johnny. he's breaking up on. Okay hold on pat ryan find a little better spot. Let us get it situated. Here check check check check check. You hear me yep i can hear you okay. I'm just trying to find out. I'm just trying to find better spot to do this. Johnny can you hear me pretty good my friend. I perfect great. I hear you on down the road of the gap fishing. I'm going down the road to the gas station parking lot. Johnny i live in a one hundred and thirty year old house. That's built like a fortress. And i can't do shows out of the inside of it with my phone because it's written literally so solid. I can't hear. Yeah you're you're breaking up a little bit. And i think johnny said he can't hear you too. Well check check near static. Did you hear that pat. He does hear static right now. Yeah let me trying to find a spot standby laser gentleman standby appreciate you guys. Toning chiming in tonight. I'm super super stoked to talk to this gentleman you know he was As we see you know we're we're seeing all these different closures and restrictions creating quotas of of businesses small businesses throughout the country and in particular The gentleman Danny presi who is the manager and just affiliated with max public house has been you know. He was arrested twice. We're gonna get into it and this gentleman here. Johnny tobacco Our guest tonight. He's on the team. The legal team but the team is staten islander fellow new yorker supporting danny prestigious As we wait for pat to get online here. It's a very important conversation. That i want to have with this gentlemen because this this pub this establishment in new york is just a litmus test and and honestly what we're seeing all across the country as businesses are being forced to close people are being into poverty in implosion of the us economy via the middle class. And we're going to kind of talk about what's going on there in new york city and specifically staten island with jani tobacco. Powder you with this. Can you hear me beside a little muffled. But i can hear you johnny. Can you get here. Johnny look conduct the interview and all time and a little bit of fat. Okay good buddy. Good okay perfect. Johnny tobacco man. Thank you so very much. I recently caught wind of who. You were The other day the press conference Side of max public house. Obviously he's been in the news quite a bit lately with a couple of arrests in honestly. My hat was just so often you guys because we talk about all the time on the show here with what's going on you know. Acquiescence is compliance. And they can't arrest. All we have to have individuals like yourself individuals like danny and keith and just as that great resistance man it it has to start with some of us so it's good to see you doing it. How are you tonight my friend. I know you've been very busy. I'm doing phenomenal Liberty and justice a winning in Humble little stat now right now Jeff thanks a lot impact to have me I really our spec what you guys doing and We really need to do more. Not only encouraged people to get out to the rallies. Raise your voice and speak up and try to get silent. Majority all moving in one direction but we need more people To innovate and find platforms where independent news broadcast is in. Commentators can talk and share spread and again When he sees the silicon valley cartel what they did to this election and what they're doing to the pandemic and everything else You really start to realize that. This isn't the america we grew up in. The air of america was free thought three of speech freedom of religion and the very tenants that this country was built on. They're getting killed on the media. Front I know you guys probably hit it but In the last month. I've been completely ban on tiktok okay I was on tiktok for two months of my sight. Started blowing up and I did a story on this guy. Charles wade who's wanted a founders. Blm okay and i was talking about how the nfl. And all these companies of bowing down to via lamb and You know most people don't know but this guy charles wade was arrested in a child sex trafficking ring like five years ago so i was using sourced information from minnesota newspaper credible newspaper and just saying the truth. That you know. If you're in line with these people know that the two women that found it are on the record marxists and this guy charles wade was arrested indicted for child sex ring and pled guilty to a lesser charge. But you know is that who we want. The major companies investing in Tiktok banned me facebook shut down my other page. I'm operating now in like limited capacity with death. You know. i'm still in appeal with them. Banned from youtube for a week. Google shutdown g mail account. Okay so i have to use like an anonymous. An anonymous i. E e is not a new g mail that i can have access to my g. suite so you know on a lot of fronts. My friend With doing god's work spread the word and the truth. And i've heard that recently. How g mail they're actually flagging people's individual private messages and emails. Now which is just have we seen. It's just across the board out of control just to give a little context man. I mean i've listened to you and you know give us a little insight of who you are menu fellow like you said new yorkers. Staten island new your dad was newark policemen. Give us a little background on surf. You don't i was born in manhattan on the lower east side My whole family came from a place called knickebocker village public housing blue collar family My dad became a cop moved up to stand down. I grew up. Staten island since first. Grade stat. Boy through and through proud of it perhaps son of a cop You know stand on many people. Don't know but it's the red headed stepchild of new york city. Everything's cities all liberal And stand down. Is you know mogok country for sure we we don't. We don't even belong in this city to be honest with you but Spent thirty years on wall street. I'm an inventor patent patent-holder on on a number of different technologies I'm an entrepreneur. I've started up built. Multiple companies of sold You know ben. Transactions in the last ten years he's also the host ladies and gentlemen of liquid lunch which is on biz tv. I believe still biz tv. And he'll say liquid lunch podcast. That's right and I spent the last four years on. Newsmax I recently saw broadcasting on biz tv where i'm hurt every day new to eastern and we're just speaking the truth of course are also and You know i feel like My wall street career put me in a position where i can spend time right now trying to do what i think. I need to for freedom for liberty for my kids really So anyway i could find an opportunity to talk about the message and try to you. Know make people understand that this is way more than this way more than a pandemic or supposed pandemic this is. This is a program right now. to see it's an experiment. You know i i. It's really an experiment to see how much crasher blue cities and blue states can put on the people and see what else the mid to An joking around saying i'm from stand-down may be italian and everything. But i ain't anything you know what i mean. But we don't want to be experimented on. We want what we want into well. And that's and that's essentially. What's happening when you start talking about the vaccines like hey. We haven't really tried this yet. You know are older. Statesman are older people that whom we love our grandparents et cetera. They're the ones being tested but again even outside of any political ideology. What's happening right now even in the election if they're able to steal an election if you're okay with it because you hate trump so much we'll just wait until it happens to the person that you hate. You said a very dangerous precedent not you. But we've all set a dangerous precedent if we just accept the ship. And what's going on with people's i mean we're seeing what's happening with the stock market. We're seeing not the stock market but to the middle class which is the driving force of our economy literally shutting business down by the hundreds of thousands. People are losing their livelihood their jobs and even their lives from this. So this is why. I was so stoked to see you guys pushing back crazy. You know jeff. I was jeffrey. I was talking on liquid lunch today. About you know a little bit of an american history But you know when the sons of when the when the sun's liberty stunt get together covertly to meet You know history tells us that they met in taverns restaurants and churches right and this sweaty held their meetings because they are the people that they can kind of fit in what looked like why are all these great thinkers get it right so they met in in barstow taverns in churches. And at the same time you know in america We're in a war on cash right. There's not enough change anymore. Supposedly when they locked down the inside of the bank and only leave the drive through open that limits the amount of cash. You can get out because they have limits on the drive through like fifteen hundred or two thousand but if you go in the branch you can get up to eight thousand dollars without signing a form to the government so by you know a lot of the states still have inside branches by appointment only or locked and they have limited so the say it starts to look to me like wait. They don't want us congregating in places where we can have rethought like bars and taverns and and churches out the worship and at the same time. What are the big money. Centers that caused velocity and in currency baas and restaurants. So they're killing two birds with one stone by businessmen. They don't want us to have places of assembly so that we can even in your own home with a certain places yet thanksgiving. You can't have more than ten people and you've got those snitch. Lines and snitch groups that are like calling cops or whatever on. it's it's just full on crazy 'cause it. I almost hate to preface. But it sucks that anybody's having to deal with any loved one that's had to deal with this covert situation but when you start extrapolating the numbers what the fuck are we doing are destroying our society off of something that basically ninety nine point whatever people survive in. That's not to say that people aren't dying. And i don't think this is a hoax etcetera but the reaction that the cure is become so much worse than the disease to the point where i mean. Emergency room visits for kids. Being abused domestic bounding. Their suicides relapses overdoses. Again are losing not just their livelihood but their lives from this and it's on its face like you know. Imagine our greatest generation you know we lament history and all the veterans and everyone was gone and fought for this country under the values that are flagged represents in here. We are now like you had mentioned in an interview. I saw a couple years ago outside of the pub. This cuomo brings his fucking gestapo down and that's essentially what it is and there's no real laws they're enforcing these are not ordinances. They're just orders and it's thing they're not anything they're edicts. In the old days they called it an edict and the truth of the matter is and i was. You know if you saw that one I think you're talking about the one In front of max. When i had on a checkered coat do that. Code is the flies ever. Let me tell you my friend giant tobacco i. I need a cook. That code or something similar to it. I was like whoa well. Listen you gotta look the fought but a lot of people say. Where did you get that coat. But gangsters dot com. Hey siri here no but you know what the truth of the matter is they tell us to follow the science right and you know. I spent thirty years all street so one of the things. I'm good at math. I like that. I like to try to bring everything down to the numbers you know. And through december through like two days ago you know we only every year the us government has an actuarial table that suggests supposes how many people they think will die every day from all causes. You know what i'm talking about but you know there's certain amount of people had just gonna die every day from something every day. We live in a society and of world with risk. When you're born you're born with a death sentence. Nobody understands that right and fat to you know to that point at every year the past ten years our mean amount of debts is like two point. Seven million okay. Some some number like two point seven million and as an average this year. We're at like two point five. You know what i'm saying. So we're below the average of total debts befall. where even even if covid was really covid Last year we had two point nine million. That's this year yet right now in the middle of december at two point five so where we have that this year than two thousand nine eighty one and somehow covid got rid of Influenza flu this year miraculously no the data. They i know you know. You're being polite to social media folks who you don't want to get banned from. I would imagine but you know. It's like the numbers are simple. If two point nine million people died in america last year of all causes and only two point. Five million have died this year. There ain't much covert in there or all. We pure and everything else if you follow me. And then the other side of the coin to the max pub to the restaurants to money centers in the war on cash new york state report last week said in new york state. Seventy four percent of the spread is in the household. Okay the contact tracing from restaurants and bars in new york state is one point four percent so you save you. Only you'll ever one point four percent chance of getting it in a bar restaurant and you have seventy four percent chance of getting it at home but we're going to send you then start really question. You know wh what you know we know. You know jeff and i've been talking on our show about this. I mean our first episode. Almost five years ago we were talking about you. Know the media driven race divisions and everything else that was coming right and You know up to two years before This lockdown happened. The first lock down nine months ago jeff and i were talking about asymmetrical warfare weaponized viruses financial collapse and we went as far as to say it was going to happen in the spring. Of twenty twenty. Wow over near before. This happened because look I've always followed financial metrics and things like that. I was the kid that was standing in line at five years old in nineteen seventy one with my mom and grandma when they got me up at three or four in the morning to go to the farmers national bank and albie get my grandma's cash out when the when the when the farmers banks There was a run on the banks to get cash out after nixon took off the gold standard. So something opened my that. Open something in my brain right so we've been talking about this for a long time. We've been paying attention to my gut. My gut has generally told me. Exactly what's going on and you know we are in a full fledged right now. Asymmetrical war with china we have been since two thousand eighteen of trump started. Get up with them on on frayed but at the same time Where are all of almost. All of pharmaceutical products may china. Where are almost all of big tax products made. We saw these people. These ceo's or now the most powerful people in the world are working on behalf of china as well as many politicians on both sides of the aisle these people are committing treason and if trump is the white hat. I hope he is. There's a lot of hangings coming brother. I sure hope so You know back in january back at the end of december when trump crackdown on the first phase of the towers and china came to the table. And you know allegedly agreed to not manipulate the currency anymore Just a few weeks before that. They lowered the reserve rate in their banks. China from twenty percent to ten percents off Like that run on the bank you talking about was getting close in china Because they said that the bank you usually keep twenty percent of your money on interest on reserve as the posits. They said you only have to keep ten because people were trying to borrow them. Walkers china evid some serious problems now the tariffs another one. And i tell you i'll send you guys the clip the end of january. I said when they start talking about this wuhan and everything i said this is a deflationary move by china because china has their hands tied. They promised trump. They won't manipulate the currency and now they got tariffs against them so they can't screw around right away not a nail long-term arc of a plant. So they're gonna do is if they can't screw around they gotta bring everyone else down to them so when they put out there and they said to us for sure That was instead of being able to inflate that currency like they've been doing for years trumpet some lots on. It would be obvious. So what they did is they watched this pandemic so that they can deflate the rest of the world and they don't go out of business. I'm telling you this part of what happened to us. This is definitely a larger geopolitical plan. I mean this is you know. Individuals like klaus schwab from the world economic forum. Talking about how. They're gonna utilize this to move us into this new normal this technocratic state that we're looking at but i mean god we went. We went macro real fast. How you how you kind of jumped on the map here sir. Just one specific speak specifically. Because this is what's happening all the cost the country danny prestige in the max public house like i said affiliated with his gentlemen. You probably frequent the spot from stanton island. Give us a little background on. What's going down the street level. Yes sir. I've been at the same time like pats. We'll watch and right before is trying to steal this presidential election okay. There's no doubt we have to this field right down here to the micro level and stanton island governor cuomo and mayor de blasio are trying to steal people's businesses so we gotta stop the steel on the street level and then at the national level because whatever happens nationally way still streets in the middle class is with don okay so i don't frequent the bar. I never met these guys before in my life. I've been on television. I've been an activist for over twenty years now the financial analysts. Mostly i do some politics here and there have been on newsmax last boy years in bunch of different roles on air But i heard about it. And i said wait a minute. There's no possible way that it these laws can be enforced by the police. I know the police. They would never do this. The end wi fi police out. I'm sorry went down into the baugh and my journey gel amino is their attorney. I said lou wanna meet with these guys. I went down there. The ball and meet them and i said hey listen guys. You're on some. And i'm with you and i got resource. I'm a broadcast that. I'm on national. Tv let me broadcast my show from here. Make you a bar essential business and we have a live audience in the boss so will only that will be great as we're talking the new york city sheriff's badge in and arresting. Okay so now. I okay it will go for a before. You go on. Please differentiate between the sheriff's department in the newark city police department or the nypd as we come to know it because they are very different. They're very different capacities in which they operate. The nypd is the greatest fighting force on earth. My father was proud member. And i respect them. Every time i see the men and women. Nypd me what they're name is the finest now the sheriff's department in new york city many people who flyover country in the mid west. The bible belt therapies like the sheriff. Like like you not justice. Like you know the sheriff's coming to town in new york city. We don't have a sheriff. We have a police. Commissioner and that runs the nypd. The sheriff is a civil law enforcement agency that comes repose your have too many tickets on it they come and shut down your business if you behind on your corporate taxes and they padlock in. Okay the sheriff is commission out of the new york city department of finance. Okay they go around and bus stores that sell. Cigarettes would no tax stamp on them. Young stand there. There are civil enforcement agency. And they're all good men and women there too but the thing is their leadership putting them in a role now that they are not trained for this an with the. Do you know what i'm saying. In the pullover taxicabs wasn't paid them medallion fees impound. The car i think you are during that press conference you or the Mr trump I'm sorry mr gel amino column and it's not pejorative but they're more revenue collectors for the state than they are law enforcement pharaohs the pharaohs in the bible they call him the pharaohs they come. Hey whereabouts take this vehicle because you all seven hundred dollars worth of parking tickets. No i don't want you to take my vehicle. Well seven hundred fifty one fifty penalty for us out here right and they collect the money you want to pay the money and in new york city to ever weird thing too because the sheriff actually gets a cut of the bounty if the out collect money or they get a cut at about the so. They're really out there for money and they don't that they're out every just to harass the public at this point because the so when we talk about. Danny's i arrest danny prestia. Obviously the manager part of the pub their arrest number one when december i i believe was december first from wrong On a tuesday were plainclothes. Policemen went out plainclothes people you know. Please winning their ordered food or whatever and he was arrested later that night and then upon apparently being released Second arrest december. Six on a sunday. Apparently sheriff's deputies. Notice stuff going on that previous there. That saturday the day before and then came into arrest him that second time it seems like that second arrest seems to be so much more controversial. Were hearing it in the news because we're hearing that dan drove over sheriff's deputies broke their legs etc. I mean why are they rolling up in black uncovered cars and you know like flyer block. I'm sorry i'm sorry. And where the both. The first thing is when they came in on the first time on the first on tuesday night they were not glenn close. They were in uniform. They came in. They presented themselves. Hey folks this bar is not supposed to be open only out. If you don't leave you're under arrest. Most of the people left okay. Can this was the first arrest. You're saying the first arrest at accursed. Okay when daddy was in there my attorney and his attorney lou gel amino was in there they came in and they said hey You gotta leave ogan. Lock you up and said while not leaving my place this. Oh we're going to take. You told his lawyer we're gonna take them into custody. He said my client understands they cuffed him. He submitted they cuffed him. They walk them out. Everybody was gone crazy but no rob out he made. His point was out within four hours submitted peacefully. I'm making my point. If you wanna really arrest me arrest me right now. Saturday night that same week after he was out i was there. The whole night People were social distancing masks coming in all the supposed fake guidelines but we will go and buy them not get the more aggravated right right Dana i was ten o'clock which the new york state time We hung out now. We talked a little bit. We walked out at midnight. Just the two of us okay. And no one was that we walked outside and he said look. I guess they're not coming tonight. It's beautiful Congrats beautiful i. Tomorrow i got my car. I went drive away. He walked in the corner and made a left. And these two guys roll up on in like a white honda. Accord does even look like an undercover. It's like a you know what i mean. And he walked by them and as these walk into his cod. Hey yo rusty just like that. Yeah now they got the full black regalia on not uniforms or badges like swat team things. Okay with a black mask over the face and the black wool cap down here right. You see this is what you see on them right and y'all prestige now the guy's been getting threats from kifah. Black lives matter. There was some protesters. They're throwing bottles the story of the night when we were in it. Okay so he takes off. They start chasing him. He gets. who's called i. He goes to pull out of the spot. The cop jumps in front of the call like that. Yeah yeah daddy stops and then. He tries to nudge the guy with the call. I guess way they never identified themselves. Yes that's the. That's a key point to because i saw that video you have to running up on you with. I'm assuming like you said previous threats. Like what are you going to do. Sit there and wait for them to choose your or whatever. It is especially if they're supposed to be cops not identifying themselves. that's i in my opinion he did. The absolute normal self preservation moves that anybody would do having people dressed up in black rolling up on you jumping. I've never seen cops. Don't number naturally roll jumping on your hood and then holding on the position where the was in a position here where he's never been trained to do this now. He's trying to affect you. Eight street arrests right. Where he's not trained. The we we find out after the they had twenty officers. Twenty deputies around the area up wall caused right. I've had number of nypd. Specialists nypd nypd training folks and they said not want nypd team of twenty people would ever let that get in his are right in the first base because they'd have his car blockaded in or if he ran when he got that Why pd retired run of new york city mayor and he was a trainer for the nypd and said in no way shape or form as anthony nypd officer in history been trained to jump on the radio car. If you if you're dumb enough that you're you're you're trapped and let the guy get in his vehicle then you gotta get out of the way or use deadly force of using lightning. But you don't jump on the hood and hang on it was like the keystone cops were out there. I would add. Would and i know and i don't know actually how many other like several thousand businesses that have been shut down and a new york specifically kind of new york city area. Do you have any thoughts as to why. There's such a hard on for you guys. The video i saw from two weeks ago. I think you are newsmax. But they pan and there's like ten twenty cops guarding the front of the establishment. Like don't they have any other things to do right now. I'm you shut it down. What's what's what's specifically why. Why do you have the bullseye. Just because you're pushing back. I'm assuming well. Yeah because you know when when when the king wants the press thumb now. For other of the thumb of oppression on the peasants. The ones that speak up. They want crush them in the town square because they want everybody to be afraid become so when you are the guys that keeps speaking than they think a bigger hammer is going to work for what they don't realize is the big ham is not working on us with that now. Notice when some limousine liberals from the reside that homerun him on gay. We're gonna keep fighting back and we got a lot of blue collar. Blue blood folks out here. Just as a point of reference. I'll give you one example. In two thousand fifteen republican primaries donald trump that eighty three percent of the vote. In-stat an island new york. Okay it was low country okay so stat known is trump country but listen to this only forty percent of stat known a registered republicans one third of the re one third of the democrats on staten down in this election right now voted for donald trump. So we're a true melting pot of people that are not about blue or red or all these other grab where regular folk and we all think the same of the the the large majority of us. And it's not gonna happen so from yeah single day. The vase open. We're giving away free via you can come in and watch the show. We have a live audience. Just like saturday night. Live is doing and you can't do anything about it. Beautiful beautiful so. Let's talk cuomo and blahsy do you know. Has anybody done research on where they're getting their money If it's coming from big tech big pharma We know that chinese interests. I wanna know who's paying these people off as well as you know gavin news. Some and the in other governor of michigan and other states that are that are just literally torturing their citizens. I wanna know which ones are getting paid. And we know gavin newsom. Santa california tax payer. Check gosh what was it. Five hundred million dollars the china For a bunch of so-called supplies for covid yup grace. I haven't looked into andrew cuomo Daughters because quite frankly you know if you remember a few years back they got all this money from obama for the they called it the buffalo billions project where they were going to reinvigorate the manufacturing. And we're going to build solar plants in upstate new york and all this money came and eight hundred million km cornyn to build these high tech centers and nothing happened whatsoever. The whole thing was a complete and utter bus. The company select dry. Think went in there. They went out of business and job. Governor cuomo i call him down cuomo leoni. That's my name's runs. He runs new york state. Like mob boss. He's don cuomo leoni imminence little brother prado What happens is after the buffalo. Billions project glows up dot cuomo leonis. Right here man. is investigated for this kickback scheme. And that guy right now is sitting in jail for embezzling millions of dollars of taxpayer money and he never went on coma so he he's not iraq But cuomo cuomo edsel cuomo's right hand man sits in jail today for embezzling millions and millions of dollars from the buffalo billions project. So i don't think i don't know about china But i'd you tell you this guy is one of the more corrupt guys out there and at one point corre up york state and it's just the moral and commission started knocking on andrew cuomo's door he went to jail so There's nothing there's nothing saying about. What's going on in new york. I don't know whereas money's coming from. But i bet easing gavin newsom and phil murphy. It's bizarre i mean everybody's just been scratching their head how they've allowed so much of the stuff to go on with burning down stuff occupation spots of of whatever they're calling them chaz et cetera and. That's what's kind of the irony. Governor cuomo declares that particular establishment there in staten island an orange zone in almost in a tongue in cheek kind of pushed back You know the guys over there. The pub called an autonomous zone which is cool. I mean it's it's there that this is. I hate to say again i need. I need to say again. This needs to be a ripple effect for small businesses around the world I hope you can hear me. I think we broke up a little bit. But this is the middle class economies kind of based off like you said the food service industry just these basic middle jobs. And they're taking those away and they're making people choose between following in an edict if you will not even an ordinance that legally enforced or making a living and we already saw the ramifications of this first lock down like i said before god. The numbers of people losing their lives losing their livelihood place in the property and other asking people to do it again. That's why i was so heartened to see your push back and other people's pushback because again acquiescence is compliance and it. The only way this shit goes down is because we go along with it. But i mean again we all need to follow your lead and if you try advocate for other small businesses or kind of reach out to other small businesses like people need. This conversation needs to reverberate because we can't. We can't do this again. We cannot do this again. Because i mean the implosion. I- tight i can. I can say this. And you spread around audience and direct anyone to me I'm part of the tv network. Eighty percent of our audience identifies as a small business owner or an entrepreneur. Okay we go to forty million homes in america but will grow and I'm empowered right now by the network. They're fully behind what we're doing any bar or restaurant. Owner in the entire country wants to declare that they're restaurant though bar is now a news bureau. I will sign you up as an affiliate of liquid lunch. You put one webcam in your studio. Twenty dollar webcam. I'll connect you and your studio. And i can get every bar restaurant in america. Essential tomorrow see. That's that's also. This is all japanese young japan. I need to do this. Spur where the bars and restaurants in island missouri. That's right go to go to you go You go to some bar or restaurant. He sat up in there and you say where broadcasting the news live from here. Okay and it's an stand so lo que then so they have fifty percent occupancy inside if they're if they're liquor licenses currently like suspended or aren't older they can't operate then what you do. Is you charge everybody. Twenty dollars for a ticket. Come see shout and you give them free beers during the show and that's incredible nice little nice loop. That's a nice round no absolutely so that's hugely important doing. Yeah that before in the press conference. And i i didn't i thought that's what you every day. I just got home right now. I was there all day today. So lazy gentlemen. Listen as a as a loophole. impossible end around. I don't go ahead. Go ahead but jeffrey if you could You could tell you. Mulas enlisted later on some other stuff. But if nvidia you go to speak easy. News dot com speak Hold on lays down. Please standby by as we're giving the remedies. Were getting the notice of more interruptions. This hold on one second. Mr tobacco was just about ready layout out speakeasy news. I'm sorry. Yeah just just as we got into the solutions they. They're off again for a hot second. Speak easy news. Dot com is that correct website. Is there speakeasy news. Dot com is laid out pretty simple. It costs you. Nothing if you don't wanna if you have a webcam you can connect in our in a minute If you don't have a webcam you gotta go buy one for twenty bucks will leave it on twenty four hours a day When you have somebody in there every four or five hours gonna go in front of the camera and give us a little covert report on. What's happening in your neighborhood. And it also serves as a watchdog. Because you know cop. Sheriff's deputies all over the country at commonplace harass and intimidate people. And you don't think to stop pulling out your phone while they china's do business but you got one cameron. It's like the national surveillance. So johnny is that something. That's that's like obviously nationally kind of implemented if you wanted to. I mean as far as being essential a tv studio country. Aaron country anywhere in the country so ladies and gentlemen that's such a huge huge cheat code man if you set up a webcam. Everyone's got a podcast. Nowadays summer cooler numbers. Of course we're the coolest but ideo said to set yourself up in your establishment and you become essential business. I don't know how that works as far as later on tax liquor license declaring yourself as a restaurant. i don't know about that. i obviously. This is kind of new news to me but if this legit well yeah locate. The loophole is this. If you're not if you own the you if you have to pay your rent right the illegalize operate right now or whatever but you still have to pay your rent right. If some movies studio comes along and says while you guys are out of business How about we say. We'll pay you five hundred bucks a day to well as use it as a as a movie set. You'd say yeah great okay. How many days can we get up was paid a wreck right So that's what you know all the hollywood elites doing that's the lady in california crying restaurants close but they're shooting a movie right next on. have the. There's a loophole there. There's a loophole. There that exists for the hollywood elites. And the folks at saturday night. live You know offensively everyone who comes in your place for two ticket to come in and they're an extra in your show and they drink beers they got that something. Whatever you state rule doc. Is that something max. Public house can do like tomorrow. Like set up. You know you or whomever set up some cameras inside there to canada going on there. Okay okay. we're doing so now. They can remain about but yes abso as as nice johnny. Tobacco bringing the pain. Wow cool hands of hands of todd with stepping up the pressure with doing where actually because saturday night live thought it was cool to start making fun of a bunch of people who were at the end of their rope. window and at studio is doing our own comedy show on saturday nights at eleven thirty at the same time as saturday night. Live so i guess. We'll see this saturday. If the sheriff wants to come back to town but well i've local if they're going to lock me up you can do it on national tv even on its face again man. They're just not even trying to hide this. Why is it. You know you're max's public house in any number of gyms or restaurants or bars have to make a decision following some bullshit order and making a living but lows A walmart i mean. They flock them in there by the hundreds and all they gotta do is wear a mask. It's it's so on. Its face what they're doing. That's why i think it's so essential that this kind of resistance. This kind of pushback happens. 'cause it's again it's it's some version of reality man there just turning us into fucking slow. You know mental sleighs a physical slaves and it's just out. I can tell you this when i go to the grocery store. I deliberately smile at everyone and spare them in the is wearing a mask and everyone else is and you can see. It's kind of amazing. Try it sometime guys. The women who see a man without a mask who confidently smiles at them stares them in the eye they smile back and almost all literally almost comforted by an alpha male smiling back again the way a mother fucking off raw well who knew this. Who knew this aside from being an amazing He also has a super super special vision. Powell's you can see a woman smile through a mask. I love it. See it in the is and i tell you what the males the beta males will stare at the god war world of that but that mother fucker absolutely at war with china we are absolutely at war with big tech big pharma. Howie as you mentioned there is no. There is no more holding back jeff. I uphold people. This was coming or years. We have tried to explain what was coming. And as soon as trump got tough on china trade. We knew this was going to go down and now imagine jeff nine studying enough geopolitical in domestic policy. And knowing this was coming imagine my reaction. I said this last night on our podcast. Imagine my reaction when some moron tells me to put a mask on. I want to snatch them up by the neck and shake the fucking wipe out the imagine. Being the poor saul told pat to take them in into massive. Bro of no idea the scoldings. So did i tell the story last night. I don't remember about the guy in kansas I'm not sure okay so i'm i'm driving back from a show in kansas. I stopped at a gas station. Put put gas in my vehicle. I go into a gas station. I go to the bathroom right away. I come out of the bathroom walking down the hallway out. There's like a guy that's my height. Five ten three hundred twenty pounds With a mask on shakes his head. No big no movement by his head. I go something wrong with your fucking neck and he goes. You're not wearing a mask. And i go. I don't need to wear a mask. I have an immune system because it's not about you. It's about everybody up. I said all right everybody else. We're going to start with you. You've never given a fuck about your health at one point in your life. You've been stuffing doughnuts in your face. Your entire goddamn life and now suddenly me wearing a mask is going to save your fat ass and there was like ten people in the in the gas station and they're all mortified staring at the floor. They want no part of this conversation. And i'm just. This is the way. I treat these people. I'm not gonna take their shit get. And that's the only way that this really kind of ends in this mass movement you know not to get too deep down the rabbit hoax. Were wrapping up here but this is a massive sigh up. Yes people being hurt by this but the things that they're utilizing The draconian measures that. They're piggybacking i'm sorry. Would you say breaking up a little bit. I was like. I go ahead what we got. Maybe maybe next week. Maybe next week i can get you guys to skype into liquid lunch. That'd be awesome occurs but other than that Why don't we have a little round table One day next week. I'll reach out to you jeff monday. The student will set it up middle of the week he come on liquid lunch will kick it around and no no no. No no no no no. I'm joking. I know i can't i again. That would be great man because this word needs to spread again the only way. This is able to to work as if we acquiesce to it. You know this this fear based trauma that the social engineers have been using us forever. Have as where we are right now. Were were afraid of something that ninety nine point whatever percent of people survive in there destroying lives on a global scale man. And it's just not persist. I mean the fucking the jacket. You iraq and johnny valentine Sorry giant tobacco. It was absolutely beautiful. That's one of the things that i caught my eye and my shit and when i hit it you guys were just bringing the pain man. All of you guys louis. All guys are standing up. Because this isn't just about necessarily max public house. They're just they're just a parenthesis of the infinite infinite infinite craziness that's happening throughout this country of people again. Losing their lives their livelihood and their businesses. It's so fucking unfortunate. So i thank you so very much for pushing back man. I'm really thankful for reaching out. I'm glad we got the rap. A little bit yemen. And i'm gonna. I'm gonna hit you back on monday and we'll set something up next week guys. Come on my show. Let's do and shouts out working. We track you down the podcast. Anything you got going on. Where can we follow. Johnny tobacco my friend while ugo foul mail facebook and twitter era john tobacco and the on youtube. You find us at liquid lunch. Tv we've liquid. Tv yeah was found some of those. I love it and the speak easy so you know i love it. It's kinda got that Enjoying yourself having a good time. Kind of is ma'am johnny tobacco website. If anybody wants to get from. I appreciate your time my friend. Still i mean all the best to you. Mr danny prestige the whole bar louie gel amino the whole crew you guys doing fucking the lord's work over here man continued success and we will talk soon my friend all right. Johnny pat you there so patrick. I'm the only one here. All right wind down. Thank you for. Everybody was here. That was here. I apologize for any of the interruptions. We just kinda deal with that. I don't know what's going on. We gave a lot of interference. I don't know if i need to up my internet. Whatever but we tend to get a little bit more break when we doing this shit. But i thank you guys also very much again. We haven't gone anywhere necessarily. We're not necessarily pumping out as much content as we were when all of the started. But you can find as everywhere of the conspiracy. Farm wasn't kind of switched it to puerto big umbrella that oliver other shows are under. It's called that podcast network. That's why our youtube name change. If you punch it on soundcloud spotify everything else. That's kind of where we're at so you get This show you get. It's me speaking to you. The show i host by myself as well as everything combat the other show that i co host with pat. We've had on george foreman. It's it's mostly about the tagline. Is you know because life is a fight. Everything combat because life is a fight and it's because it is and twenty twentieth showing us just that but it's listening and talking to people who overcome a lot of crazy heavy heavy shit to transcend that tale of woe to really kind of become who they are for those george foreman or you know dan gable Tito ortiz ranco tour just a myriad of people man so i appreciate you gotta support. I appreciate your patience again. Where else on. Rock vin That podcast network on rock fan. Youtube sound cloud itunes stitcher spotify etc. Thank you guys. Also much I appreciate you guys and again. We're not a huge fan of youtube but we will still occasionally come back in and drop these. Obviously these will be added to our our normal catalog as well but sometimes we'll just pop in here. Do acuna. I felt this conversation with mr tobacco. Something that required sent a little bit of center urgency just because again people's lives livelihood. Businesses are being shut down all over the country over something that almost ninety nine percent of people survive and we have so many other things that people die from. We just don't do this to businesses so again we have to say you know. Feast on a satchel of richard's man. When they try to shut up shut down. It should never be one of these things where we're making a choice between living our life in making a livelihood and following not even laws dislike orders that's not even really legally enforceable so peace and so much love you guys. I'm a grandpa by the way. I had a grandson the other day. He's absolutely beautiful and excited for that stage of my life. Cool adventure grandpa. Grandpa jeff gamper. Jeffrey wanna call it anyway. Levy guys take care.

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Mozart Vs Lapiz Conciente - Analizamos

Frequencia Urbana Podcast

28:50 min | 6 months ago

Mozart Vs Lapiz Conciente - Analizamos

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Part1:Charles LoPresti

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

46:02 min | 9 months ago

Part1:Charles LoPresti

"Swiss Steve Covering interviews. This is Steve very good Thursday rice fans serious to nineteen except to a one sports on nights sixty four you're listening to Sirius. Xm Online and also at the website the VIC DOT COM and I don't know what's going okay. I've got a little There's like a reverse right back into my That's receiving right back into the headset. All right I'm hearing myself so I don't know what which I don't mind. Well actually I do sort of like eating your own cooking although I tell you what. I made a LASAGNA. Last night that forget about it forget about. I really didn't Tina was inspired over the weekend. She said GonNa make a thing a sauce. Okay good idea and beef and then after I. We lit into the sauce a couple of couple of days. I had enough to make LASAGNA. Hey put unbelievable and that'll last like three days. So there's there's the there's the cooking reference for the day so much to do and a lot of things the follow up on. You may have seen yesterday. I it's been about mid early to mid afternoon. There had been a a report that started very quickly actually earlier in the afternoon. Started to circulate coming out of Baltimore and the potential anyway Or The supposition from the NBC affiliate that Wbal and they outed an October third preakness date and that quickly circulated and Including the Baltimore Sun then enhance the report and Etcetera. It was quickly You know considering the source. Wbal the key to this because later on in the afternoon a statement from the stronach group and the JC. They said things continued to be negotiated. And there isn't a firm date so it was a mild denial. Let's put it or not. Even a denial just a mild refuting of the report and the reason the NBC affiliate came out with this is because the network gave them a block. A Time Block For when the show would would air. So it's sort of an internal NBC thing. And whether it was in a premature early released we'll see but Boy It considering where it emanates did a it kind of feels like it and it makes some sense. I mean it you know obviously four weeks hence from the Derby Day and Then Goal Pat McKenna had to respond that the first priority for Nyra is to get that people speculating. Oh well wins the Belmont GonNa run then. Well Pat. You heard Last week Pat just saying you know we want to start running first of all and then we'll figure out where a Belmont belongs in terms of timing so a take that then which way you want regarding October third as the potential date for the preakness and terms of timing the the event that is really depending on where things stand at parks in general the event that it is going to get squeezed here is the Pennsylvania Derby so I we don't We can't really do anything until this all gets firmed up. Meanwhile there are some firm dates that are taking shape and that includes Gopal Gate Who'd been very quiet. A lot of the speculation has focused on Santa Anita resuming their season and still hopeful is as I said yesterday with anti buyer that you know the the date of next Friday the fifteenth continues to be the speculation for Santa Anita but in the meantime the Alameda County Health Department gave approval for Golden Gate Fields to resume on the fourteenth week from today. So Golden Gate back on on Thursday. All right no obviously no spectators and statement from the Golden Gate team. Live racing will be conducted under strict protocols without spectators to protect the health safety welfare of every person and every horse in the golden gate fields community protocols still being finalized with county officials will be released in the coming days and Pat Mackie Noted the racing secretary noted that the first four days the Fourteenth Fifteenth Sixteenth Seventeenth next week that those race cards will be essentially the group of races that had been cancelled the first week in April and the horses. That were basically ready to run. Those days when racing was halted and from mistakes schedule standpoint the San Francisco Mile The great three June fourteenth month and other rescheduled steaks include. The California Oaks May thirty-first Memorial Day by the way is the twenty fifth and they actually are running Memorial Day as well. The Alcatraz got moved. The all American will be on. May Twenty fifth the Albany on June six etcetera so visit visit their website. And I don't know if the revised condition book is up but Good News on that front. Golden Gate gets going. There was a less than a hopeful to be honest Much less than hopeful report out of Middle America and This coming from a Ted reveals the Midwest racing report and Basically agglomerated A couple of different things including reports out of the Des Moines Register where prairie meadows general manager or CEO. Gary Palmer was very pessimistic out and is concerned as these pockets of covert cases seem to be expanding in more rural areas and in other parts of the country Palmer said it just doesn't make sense for them to you. Know to open up and Ted also utilized the comments from Andrew. Offerman with me last Friday. And they're they're ready you know they'RE GONNA. Start taking tomorrow and the back stretch opens at Canterbury tomorrow and A to be determined date yet on when they're going to run so there's the the quick report New York there. There's some speculation that things are being worked on for restarting. Obviously there being worked on and there's constant conversation with Albany about starting up in New York and There was some there was some some code. Let's call them code words and expressions indicating that perhaps The twenty nine might now be a working date potentially But do not you know? There's nothing written in stone than the New York outfits though are ready and eager obviously to get going so meanwhile it's going to be a very interesting day today with just Gulfstream running. It's it's Sorta like called her when they used to run Christmas. The one one facility today to look into. I told you about those two year old races next couple of days and in fact they drew a card for Saturday Gulfstream and two year old race on Saturday as well so nice steady parade of juvenile races starting to starting to flow and Yesterday for those. That played a nice job by seth. I think there's been a very nice between James scully over the the weekend the scully with a couple of really nice pushes. Friday and Saturday. I mean mcpeek Philly and then James and I both the landed on On the The horse in the nightcap on Saturday Nice Nice Way too nice way to get out at At oaklawn last Last weekend and then yesterday got to be pleased with the work of Seth Mero who talked about the CARICOM Carrot baby that That won the nightcap tobacco Calico Tholocco with Wilmer Garcia and Got Overlooked. I mean just Was was completely overlooked so nice Nice mutuals and actually that That horses stems That I took a shine to in the fifth clear as day. Nice performance there and I. It's one of those angles that is very frequently productive and overlooked especially with a horse like that Clear as day took what eight starts to break the maiden and once they break the maiden? You can't be afraid to go right back to them and you know four weeks ago comes right back and pays fifteen twenty under Angel Suarez beats the favorite of szucs fashions star. So that was okay. That was the anchor of the of the pick five and when it came to Toco it in fact both to tobacco and the other. I are big dreaming Who went off as second choice shook. Us Army Corps came kind of late and meekly at three to five and it was the Taco at twenty two to one. So good job by Seth pointing out the CARICOM tie I some good racing yesterday. Tampa as we as we suggested that fourth race allowance Hopeful growth at three to five did come through. That was the The Maganga the Anthony Maganga Then Viola Capture Philly so very playable yesterday at Tampa and And I actually haven't looked much at today and I also didn't get a chance. I really wasn't watching carefully. The mid afternoon I'd been repairing slats on the on the porch. Every spring. There's a number of these porch slats get. Get a little punky and have to be replaced so I don the don my my carpentry belt and and they went out on the porch. Everybody shaking their head shirt. Sure you did I did. I'm telling you I was out there doing it. I did make the mistake of not having Tina. Take a picture so that there's photographic evidence a few years ago. She did and people were were shocked that I that I can. I can do that kind of that kind of work. Yes I got. My father is a civil engineer and I learned a lot from him. So I'm more capable than somebody might might expect We'll head to the break. And when we come back Charlie Lopresti is gonNA join us for a few minutes and we're gonNA talk about wise. Dan Getting elected as expected to the hall of fame. He really felt like a slam. Dunk Marquette. Tomorrow Mark was unavailable tied up this morning and so we didn't get a chance. We won't get a chance to talk to mark until tomorrow. That's right it's quite weekend anyway. And with just Tampa and belt stream and so good chance tomorrow. To let Mark Wax Poetic Philosophic and talk. I'm sure his father and will be a lot of family to talk about. So marquess tomorrow the Prestige. I this morning and after Charlie. You'll just just a few minutes. Which and when it comes to the Hong Kong visit. I told you not just Dick Bowel but tell me masses the hammer the Macedonian Ham. He's unbelievable I don't I haven't seen much about it yet. So Tommy I think has been kind of quiet which is hard for anybody to believe one point one million dollars. Pick six at one point one. Let me repeat that one. Point one million dollar Hong Kong pick six score for Tommy Bassus and he dick. They're gonNA talk about you. Know How to approach. I want Tommy to talk about how he plays on Khan and how much of his action is actually increase playing on but unbelievable Tommy masses with another monster scoring Steve Haskins later. Want to get rich. Hang in and Tony. There's GonNa be a day. I got a gotTa C. J. Primin I wanted to get Jay on today Typically he comes on after the day after the hall of fame announcement because Jay Very much involved in the nominating committee and and so forth and of course writes the conduct of the story. So maybe Jada today if not today then tomorrow and it would be a double visit with j tomorrow because we gotta go over the Arkansas Derby if you hope you read his visas. His postscript always always valuable so maybe jay today not sure yet. Today's Kentucky Derby Memories. It's the anniversary of of animal kingdom. Giacomo go for GIN. Winning colors sunny's Halo Seattle slew. Venetian way swaps. Ponder Lauren Burger King. And behave yourself. The first Derby winner on May seven. That's this year's obscurity who didn't I mention nineteen sixty six may seventh Kuwaiti king. Don Brumfield is GonNa Join US Don Brumfield today. Eleven thirty for Derby Memories. Let's take a break back after this Charlie. 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We're back at the races a little bit of twenty two. Our one on this Thursday and smile came over my face yesterday when Brian Boucher joined us and the word started to circulate about the induct. These the class of twenty twenty and with wise. Dan First Year eligible he. He was obviously a slam dunk and so This conversation was highly anticipated and La. Presi joins US and ill he and wife. Amy will will take In the congratulations for the late more. Think and Charlie What a what a great call. This must have been when you heard. Yeah we're we're over the moon about it Keeneland put a really nice Thing on their page We played all his races here. Keeneland and tell you brought a tear to my Steve. What what what a ride we had with that horse. And there's no doubt and I you know I certainly for us on the show I was able to really chronicle the whole thing and it was just magical and then you fold in Mr finks portion of it and the fact that he was down to his last mayor and had you know the the the sort of pedestrian breeding with Wise Men's ferry and it the granddaughter and all the wonderful elements and then you know with his illness. And Gosh I it just. It was just such a fairy tale story. Yep you're exactly right. Nobody could wrote a story like that. Nobody could have dreamed it up. We could have never imagined that something like that would happen. Here's the way that use life and as small stable as I had Just I don't know we were blessed the we would definitely blessed to have that horse in You know I've talked to some people yesterday and and after having horse like that it's like you know most horses. You know when you have mediocre horses you know what a truly great racehorse is in an wise Dan. He was just a truly great racehorse. I mean talk about slam dunk was a slam dunk. Every time you loaded him in the gate in the afternoon and one thing that that we certainly have to have to bring up it was not without it was not without some hiccups and I think maybe some people that were either late to the story or only know his race record. Forget about you know the colic and the issue and and the uncertainty about bringing them back. Well that's somebody I was talking to a guy about that this morning You know his last year undefeated One the first million dollar race at Keeneland came off. Colic Surgery We left here in the middle of the beginning of summer. Early Summer Starting back at one breeze here keeneland and then went to Saratoga in in In did what he did Just amazing for a horse to come back. And that's what this gentleman was telling me said horses. Just don't come back from something like that. But Steve when he got off the trailer from college surgery. You bounced off the trailer. Like he was to the racist Egypt was. I don't know where he just three different air. I guess the best way to describe. That's you know the that. That's part of the charm of courses like this twenty. Three wins in thirty one starts and other two seconds and you know he did a little bit of everything and and people may not recall before he got really good. You know what you were doing with them at the at the start because he wa- synthetic at turf way and that second starting exploded and I already got beat by a should really look up those horses and see what became of them But then you brought back four weeks later and and things really started. He exploded in that case with the rise. Dan that I was looking for in the first race. You know the way. He ran his second start And then he went over to Churchill. We couldn't get the next race at keeneland. The goal form and we went to church. You know anyone and then he had a little cup there you know. We had the beginnings of a rule hairline cracks in hind ankle. And so he gave him all summer off and then he comes back wins. Ben Ali off the way off people. I is crazy for running them. But if you change the way he was working You could understand what. Put Him in stake. First time out I go back to before the debut and because I I'm sure we talked about it but you know because he won the Phoenix in that you know in that comeback race but it when you know how quickly did you know. Of course you must have had him you. And Amy must have had him for his early development right. We broke him. He came to us when he was weaned and we raised them at the farm and And and we broke him. I beyond with Steve. You know we broken early days In in his early days I mean he was a nice horse but he was Kinda of rangy horse but anyway when when we really started getting going with him when he was a tree role because we didn't do much with them it to when we started doing something with three he really showed some stuff. Early I mean God the way he would gal the way he would work. I think we worked from the gate. One day with another horse. And he went fifty one and he just annihilated another horse but then he was tough to deal with and you know I never knew if I had a morning. Glory if we had a really good horse because he was really tough to deal with I mean and then once we figured out that his stride was so fishing and that's the way he gal everything thirteen fourteen furlong once we figured that out bounds and then we knew we had a pretty serious horse. So I'm sure if I pulled up the audio from when we were talking about it at the time and as he was starting to really become special remind us of the of the dirt and the turf discussion at and how you know how the turf became you know the the consistent go do because he was he did win the Clark. He win the ALYSHEBA. He got beat in the Breeder's cup. Sprint people forget by two lengths to big. Yeah you know the grass. It's funny about the grass. Just you know his four year old years been getting if he's fully. Roll your some things just kind of went wrong with me. Pull the sacred and the racier keeneland. We ran him back in the alley. She by believes Now they have to think back and he was on the lead the whole way he got a little tired and then we ran him in. Wow it's racy got beat and allow tracing Mr Thinking. I would talk about it when they sport which is on the crash and I said well you don't think I was thinking about that too anyway. Long Story Short. We tried to get him into two other than in the race. Didn't go so he's so. What do you think we do well to tell you what we should do? We ought to nominate him to the firecracker and we'll it to breezy on the grass and see what he does and when we breezed him on the grass that day it was like wow he just hit this he just he just like didn't know the work really good and we were like well. You know. It's a long shot to try the crack. It but what the heck. Let's just give it a shot anyone that race and then it just escalated from there another portion of this that it when you talk about horses that that ended up being hall of famers and not every not every hall of Famer can claim this Because one of my favorite horses Of all time roundtable couldn't stand up in the mud. This is a horse that won on every conceivable going firm good yielding fast dirt slop Synthetic Yep. Yeah he was every. You just summed it up right there. I mean it didn't matter you know bad trip back post position bad track I just. I mean the second Breeders Cup when he wanted to second Breeders Cup when he went by me the first time when he didn't break I just shook my head and said no way. Today he'll win and how he win that rich. I mean and people just don't realize I guess when it was all going on you know it was just a. I don't know it was just a big cloud and you know like holy just couldn't believe this was happening. You know and you know that you took it for granted but you just you just every time you let him over. There was like God elise going to know he just does it again and he does it again and he does it again. I think the most impressive thing about wise. Dan and I don't know if you were there that day at Saratoga when worked on the grass I forget I think he went like nine and change drink gourds and and just don't go and GALP that like thirty five and change or so. I can't even remember but I know that Johnny Velazquez and Angel Hair over there and they just looked at me and I came down with the clockers into clockers just shook their head and I looked at Riva Go. Did He really go that? Fast Review Gear. That's what I got to be like. Wow and you don't if you ever can look watch. That video is a video of it somewhere. Don't realize how fast he was going. Because of the length of stride would watch the trees in the background as he was going by the trees that tells the story in Dame rock was hanging out the door on him and when he came home and he walks crossing. I haven't used. He was just walking across that road with the rain swinging and he would blow out of match and I was like man this horse. Just he's unbelievable. Unbelievable you mentioned you mentioned Saratoga where you enjoyed a parade of of successes and not just with not just with With Wise Dan. But I'm looking also at the list of of win locales keeneland Saratoga Churchill Santa Anita Woodbine. Yeah he sure did and Actually have just a just a half length win over Jimmy Sims and that was with John Court But the turf way turf way a fold that what I think I think I've mentioned eight racetracks and we should also mention the riders that that ended up associated with him John McKee broke his maiden. Julian gotTa turn in an allowance and then later on. I think he also won. He won the fight yet. He wasn't he could erode him in the Clark in him in the Clark because he was committed to ride that Philly Out in California. I think it was never retreat. I think that was her name He was committed to ride that. Finley out there. So I called Angel Cordero and warnow Johnny would come and Angel. Watch the tapes and he called Johnny and they came when Johnny gone off in the Clark said. Don't ever take me off this horse ever again. The Clark was first grade one. Yeah he'll johnny will tell you ask him today and he'll he'll and it's been in print and he said it before we best she's Ever Road. He's been on some really good horse. Well that's for sure and in fact As it happens today is the today's the ninth. What the ninth anniversary of Animal Kingdoms Win Seven Twenty Eleven Janis Sort of pick up mount surprise first victory in a in Derby and then subsequently with later with With with todd which was appropriate. We should mention to Johnny pretty much from that point on road him every time except for twice because Jose Luis Cano had a couple of turns including of course the Breeders Cup Mile. In in twenty thirteen. And and I know it was. It was incredibly important to to Jose. It's a it's a win. He treasures where I was talking to. Jason by this about that Poor Poor Jose. He always had a step in when something went wrong. And that's the day that baffled horsemen down and Johnny was rushed to the hospital and I mean Jose had to rise to the occasion and he did it and he did it one time. Because Johnny was published committed to ride point of entry in the Woodford and Before we decided to go in that race and then he wound up lescot wrote in that day and he warned that they show he you know was done a good job with that or semi. Johnny did a great job with Julian job with them. And and Wisconsin what. We've had roused indication but everybody used to say why John Cornyn because he was good he knew how to win. They well and even early on John. Court with a pair stake wins the firecracker and the press style Ma. Yep that's exactly right. Then he worked in season one that worked him on the grass. One we nominated to the firecracker and he wrote him. Anyone you look at you. Look at the horses. He faced too. I mean there's every every type of top flight runner that you could imagine and both dirt and and even when he got beat Ron. The Greek beat him that day in the foster by head Bob The the shad well when he fell short in that shad well Which was his first grade. One try Gio Ponti Get Stormy and Sydney's candy finished ahead of them. There were no. There was no shabby horses in that right here. Exactly right yeah he just you know looking back on it. How lucky when we all Could be associated with a horse like that you know any and even at that time was working with us and and for him. They traveled everywhere that horse in and he loved the horse and he spent every waking hour with him What what a thing for the whole family for things for his family for all the people in the barn our relationship you know how many people we got to meet. I mean relationship with Velazquez is because of it and Just I don't know that took us places that we never thought we would ever go. Unbelievable I the only the only sad element here is that whenever there is going to be a ceremony. Mr Fink won't be there I assume you talk to Mrs I you know in the last twenty four hours yep shot. She was the first one I called yesterday morning. and I think a reported asked me. I forget who I talked to and said you know what would have been like for Mr Faith and I told lane. His wife said somebody asked me what it would be like Mr. Thank and she just broke down in tears and said he would have been so happy. Charlie been so happy and yeah it's it's I just wish he could have been around for the finale of it. But he's watching wherever he's at he's watching. He was so tickled and it. It during a protracted fight illness wise. I it it gave him something to look forward to Month after month after month. Just that's exactly you you just don't see people like that anymore and that. I think that's the one thing people ask me all the time. That's the one thing that made it easy for me is he. Never put pressure on me. it was basically my call if I call them tomorrow and said well. I didn't think he worked really good. Maybe we not running or he never he never put any pressure on the easiest trusted me with the Horse and that made it. He sure was it. It was nerve wracking. Some time thinking. We're GONNA make this racist that race. But but he never he never put the pressure on me and he gave me all the opportunity to give him the time on the winter. That run them three hundred sixty five days year and you know it's hard to find people like that anymore in this game. It's really really hard to find people like that. And that That part of it. I mean we've talked about Having you know having the kind of client base and how difficult what a challenge it is especially if you're the type that's only going to have you know enough number of horses that you're GONNA put your hands on every you know every day. You're not you know you're not looking to have a string of horses and has spread out. Well Charlie this is. This was one of those conversations you knew was coming. We don't know when the ceremony is going to be but I think as I told you when we talked about When when you join me when when Moore passed away and said there's GonNa be a trip to Saratoga A quick hit on on everything else going on and you're kind of Obviously like everybody else in holding pattern you actually being. It'LL BE KEENELAND. training You weren't Maroon somewhere like so many horsemen and now with Churchill having the startup next week You gotta be. I assume be ready to to run a few. Yeah we're pretty. We're pretty excited we We got some really fresh horses. Steve I you know. I think these racist. I've been talking racing carried. I've been talking to some of the trains around these races. And and the jocks agents. These races are gonNA come up monster tough. I mean monster monster but we gotta get Western in fact finding in their money one allowance horses right now and talking to some of the age and some of the horses that are common for those races. I mean it'd be like a great at stake so we're going to be up against it but the horses doing really good their fresh I it gave me a little more. You know sometimes you're under the gun to run a team in the first week in April because they don't know on the track here until the second week in March so you're kind of under the gun But now we're we feel like we're ready. We just hope we get in. That's going to be the biggest thing getting in races. I've got some nice maintenance to run on the grass. I think they'll be fifty sixty entries in those grass races. So you know that's going to be the toughest part of it but we're ready to go. We'll see how see how goes well. always rooting for you. And an amy and Charlie. I said yesterday to Brian Buoy. Say that I'm sure that Wise Dan. You know really didn't really didn't think much of it yesterday. Out in the out you know behind your house and out in the field But maybe a maybe a carrot cake For Him and and let his brother let his brother share some of it too. Well Yeah Amy tells him Yes. He's still pretty much. Thinks he's King of the world right now. Here's confirmation the winner of seven and a half million dollars. Twenty three races Horses of the year. Br Breeders Cups. I suppose I suppose. The story ended fine with the five straight wins in four grade ones and the great to Bernard Baruch. You were getting ready for that last Breeders Cup. A third try when he when it became obvious that You know things but Exactly and I remember. I remember you come in on that that week when you have to announce that the wise day was being retired but years one more one more victory for for wise. Dan The election to the hall of Fame Charlie. Congratulations stay safe. Stay well thanks as always thank you. Good talking to you. Always Great Charlie La Presi and wise. Dan I it's hard to have a horse of a lifetime because you know it makes it hard After that to kind of duplicate or have one come along that the kid have this kind of a of a career but Being able to look at them out out at Bella Prestige spread that. That's gotta be That's gotta be all right in brothers successful Dan. Let's take a break when we come back. Tommy masses is going to visit with Dick Powell and we'll talk Hong Kong and Tommy taking on the one point one million dollar pick six the other day at shotton. Tommy hammered foul next.

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Which driver will be Hamilton's F1 heir?

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Which driver will be Hamilton's F1 heir?

"Hello wilkins podcast. Is this latest episode dedicated to look forward into formula one's future thanks 373 swings and six. Well talk soon start. Two thousand fourteen that can be no doubt lewis hamilton. it's been the championship dominant force in bigs. Get nothing lost forever and all that how much remains in discussions with mercedes pound contract you twenty. Twenty one not yawned. He will one day leave behind. But there's no shortage of young stars seeking to follow him as dominant force. It must be said that following how much his latest the super star able to bring to billions will be a tough act anyone to follow nevertheless these young stars follow in. Its footsteps are the subject to the coffee feature in this week's autosport magazine movie discussing we've chosen three in particular and while others left out in accompaniment episode so joining me today. That first of all is the author of the jays organized. Fm reporter alex smith. I look this is your first comic. Joe i believe so. How are you feeling about. That was a proud moment. When you. When you see that you're going to be copying the you know the the leader of several slightly side individuals that get framed and put it up in their dwellings. I can he see or framed copy of autosport via left shoulder. So he's talking point that no one ever comments on across around at the mayan Aussie and now. I mean yes. It's very cold. I mean not something that i mean. When i first joined the school in february last year the it was always. I mean. it's it's just the it's always been the authority. It's always been the magazine. I think is a kids. If you love my sport raid. You wanna write for if you wanna work in the industry and yes so. I mean a grow up so volunteers as well spoke. Let's be doing. That was a brilliant. The to see your feature on the company is amazing. So yeah now. I'm reread slice at by an she. Usually gripe of the options and to have the opportunity to profile three of the young upcoming solves. While i thought that was really really to whitestone twenty twenty one so yeah feeding pretty buzzed about is really cool. And the person that gave you. That opportunity is auto sports. Chief editor kevin. Welcome back through podcast. Twenty twenty one. Have you recovered from the slightly mad period of all those races finishing late. You're also spoke grumpy. Editor filing various ridiculous arms of the top fifty and the nazis review feature. We had today about four magazines in a week. I felt like anyway. Yeah in fourth actually was a lovely sentiment for appreciate as nice yet. I've even come from matt had had a good break. Even did some fun feature auditing every christmas but not just absolutely have enough located in today's Obviously now with his way into authorized fifty lockdown or whatever it is. We all have to deal with them. The kids being Som- but i'm shoulder million innocent of the situation at and saw not gonna much about that. I wouldn't mind if they interrupted. You came on the scene who is viral clips of people kids marching in montana. It's not about welcome happier. They have invited a couple of meetings on been on but fortunately so far. It's not that's been recorded or one with anyone that would be heating or but i'm waiting for the moment where we get chris or a must honestly likes bicy- 'cause they actually a racing car phase next president which he must have set many the from which which book on the the prewar german seapower teams. Egan you can get while radio. She does she talk to non give him something with the porch seven in it but for the taste. Well well. let's let's Let's let's crack on with the topic of these cars. And the headline feliks base of the who the as to lewis hamilton supremacy to his place in formula. One cavs e commissioned this peso on the dvd. Just kicks of explaining. What the thinking behind. Not as we've we've we've it down to three picks in particular but that does emit tube in particular very high profile drivers. That you might. What's a matic with being consideration when it comes to the much likely drive to succeed hamilton. Yes so that's been todd with the stars even oscar anne lucas Russell a It's i think people's reactions to the Who's gonna win next chance off the hamilton. You've been me always short. Max for started on if not then you re chelsea clack of two But my molecule known that was the Both established the carnival ready mix psychiatry on undeclared had issued for A terrible cough two years where this year is what gives johnston today but consider them as established styles now. allegiance the amac's japanese. It certainly good enough to win the world championship. I was really trying to i in full. The it's the next generation coming through the gimmick there the next game against those charges saw. It's already con has now that he's got that that jumped to ferrari a kinda gonna be down this year but for a waste bounce back Of how long rarely tixx. George rosso oversea very impressive. His sees nothing. You'd put your mon- being in the messiah. The next year tayside could well be the winds of chance before any of your bags. We've mentioned site fall. Under federal overseas is landowner Hasn't yet gone of the heights of yet. The yobe as hot the russell had inside space. But he's compared very well to soerensen to mcconnell presi first two years fulmer lawn but we'd probably better than most Across today's three obvious drive. Is that all going to wait. That's kind of another argument for the pace was nominated wanna grown pretty yet max in an oath one mode for girls breeze and it was a neat y of excluded yes peres impair gasoline That stores different which. I'm sure we'll come to later in the so it just ill All the three best draw up his in from one. You haven't won a dorm pretty yet. But he'll certainly will do within the next while the nypd s right to you guys as the experts on the two years two years Pray i think. I think all three of them. That's very difficult thing will come on the late. So there's a there's one that stands out above the rest. Not because necessarily because of his ability but because the circumstances e finds himself in and is george russell because of his ties to mercedes whereas for our equal rebuilding today and we don't know two thousand twenty two going to close the gap enough for mclaren to mean that norris convenient connection victories. You'd like to think he could and obviously they're very very slick. Well run team. The honda days are behind. Them is a team on the up but they need something massive change and that's what two thousand twenty will provide and obviously norris doesn't have a mercedes linke's mclaren driver zodiac ferrari so is ego go to naturally then logically okay. We'll make sense as russell is being the most likely to to win. be already. In in barra brava site pledged to doing it before for the stuff and then the puncture ruin it because the the pitstop zapper thing that was he still could have won the race even off trae which is unfortunate that he got that punctual. The perez was adamant that he would have held him off and water. Why don't we stay talking about russell. Because i wanted to run through the three contenders in the way that the out very well. I thought in the magazine. Ara our designer microwave sign. Excellent job particularly on the call us because we haven't seen him. He's fo-for ourika. He's got head and shoulders in mclaren gear and then is tariff ferraris. Two thousand twenty rose on very nice touch on some of that yet. Let's talk about. George y y you know expanding the second son z. Finds himself in but what what makes him so good as a driver that he's got to be one of the big hikes for the featuring Leading foam full. I think he has already put himself in that mode of i think phenomenal. Lonzo has been loved comparisons to for when he was at a minority in two thousand and one and how when he's even given back mark collie cont really sort of shy. What you can really that you said able to impress you still able to routinely out qualified. Teammate he still never been out qualified by a williams team at about qualifying was That was any by really tiny margin. And a williams. He's always been. He's always punched so far above his white given the limitations that car. No fats ame and had it not been to the mistake under the safety car Imola last year than he would like. You already have a point on the ball and that's all that is really missing. I think that alex. I mean we've spoken about this before. About how the question. Mark the him. Maybe that lack of points for williams but when he was thrown in the day end dot mercedes and given the opportunity. And it's just crazy thing that us in a call didn't fit him as rice. Books recites to smell. The seat wasn't adapted to his body or anything like the and he was still able to dominate outright. Some who still on course to win that race a couple of times before as he said the punk jewellery took it away. So i think it's not only just what he's on williams and how he's so far. Outstrips the qualities fat cau- bowl also in an ultra high pressure situation which is taking driver completely out that compensated throwing them say even if it is the most dominant car on the grid. And saying right you've got to perform and you'll fast time in. The car is literally friday practice on the brand new circuit while the known have been see before. And you've got to perform impress. I mean that's just huge. She jolts i an and yet he did it. Brilliantly outclassed to you both sides comprehensively right the way through on the way through that race and was was so so dominant and is kinda saw Performance remakes guy. Oh hang on a minute. Hey like we're on a I think is thing you look at that. Sold thousand night is when moans Fullness is right through that season. I think you can highlight other drivers making that. Big statement lewis. Hamilton sure is debut. Season obviously mclaren. It was a very good team. It was up that with ferrari that year and he still perform stood up against two time. Champion fernando side and is that kind of on a statement and impacts that drivers so f- rally making at one by joy also even if he's only got three points to his name and see seasons i think has already gone along lights making showing he's He's real real stockholders for the future. Yeah i think what was what was interesting about that. Race in bahrain where we did so well in guam pray with the so much risk riding on it for russell as well if he comes in a case a wonderful opportunity. Although i think you know by the end of the season just wall street will come back from abu dhabi of explaining the it'd been purged. This would be a two race day over. Everybody sort of expected to not be able to recover from nines in quite so rapidly because nothing's guaranteed just because of the the way the the horrible virus works and we saw you know. Various logistical hurdles to get over to get gains. W. was so so very well that and it turned up in bahrain. Tree it almost the practice run during the best you can. And then the real real test is abba. Daddy how come into bahrain and acid beaten him by hoffer seconds. Apollo beaten by thirty seconds in the race really doesn't damage to his claim for two thousand twenty two. You know both he members ask amazon's themselves not shootout when you make on a one off basis but it's the core public opinion as the classic cliche. You're only as good as loss rates and that is it was. It was excellent series. I some recovery. As quickly as he did. But it did mean that there wasn't another opportunity to see what russell could do against batas. The memory will always be of leading the race put in that policy in a us on much old. It's is but still had to make the moves they can eat having having had some serious question marks ivories of his ability to race to from and start the season we saw a few arizonian is using academic discussing is it. Is it ever going to work out for george russell because he missed the opportunity to get a point although it wasn't so points on the rioting jamming ninety nine when he slipped off and it went to qubits than those majella where he was in the points and running very well in the thought went badly. And i personally think that was a bigger opportunity to school than emily. Up amyloid the more high profile mistake because crushing mind is eighty. Cars is the ultimate embarrassing africa. But yeah how how impressed we was who showed that race from his eighties but was hounded italians. He's bruce story. I'll have to offer. I think it was. I had a chat with them with their work as a big supporter in A fan of she's drivers behind the scenes doesn't incredible Big final george Uh tiven achieve. Would you can. How good a job as joel stern. Because with jay respect zero nicotine you know your Spectacle and safety not drivers that you're gonna be talking about is winning world championships in Races in from you know he sees the ball recon not really there in the kalsa in the first year it was good enough to do anything else. And he's a ninety dotted. the is absolutely on. You'll say as. I think i think you're right. But just lot to in different context and then loan. Behold eric comes and coliform went by is a condo would which is a just didn't quite a full-size but the ryan is very quick. He's very quick. But both within a within. A tape of hamels nee side a very very good rice driver but it was the white. He dealt with the fractured in the in the rice. Really one of the worst office infomer- lawn and he gets off the law guessing the lead in really a Was the This locuto bone toronto. The from united after we. We shouldn't really be surprised. He's one in wilson other categories but the the ultimate impresses me about. He's just. He's over at approach to things of full enough to bid a judge. You'll need yet. The young driver will which when he wanted two thousand fourteen. Asthma van was will build as it was and he was sick. Stayed and he but he a cat he told you. He was not veteran. But simon sheer level-headed those Announce soldiers iago that raw nash. On that bad. I'm pretty pleased with the zoo. Just everything was called. It's a very hard pressure environment for the Jumping into three different calls. Life no identity experience there were at least twice as path was anything june or inaccuracies and those are the money of textual on on it so it does get some very good draws against two and he was just. He was just still breeze threat. Really funny enough noise when it two years later morning. Core different style. He wanted a quick wanting by steph recession. Russell had permitted more competition. But he's just over. Latching approached is really stood out. I think he's my entire life long. we are. let's let's come on talk about landowner sake of Another another autosport young driver award winner though. Of course when wants palm clarinetist wants master martin these and what did you include about nurses twenty twenty season and what. He's done in formula one so far for for the feature because he had a an interesting season last year in the always was a sensational rookie. And twenty nine hundred. Eighteen shot very very well against junior very well against him last year but it was sort of a a more up and down campaign not necessarily ways because of anything he was doing there. There were mechanical retirements. There were incidents that classroom launch throw in portugal and there are a few thoughts and little things didn't seem to be going his way but nevertheless podium and i just i just looking back and reading your piece i. I'd almost forgotten even though and having a few weeks ago. Just how could he was in aba. Daba was absolutely sensational on it and really was. Everyone's i wins. The race is not sign of things. The come i think is right. What's not potentially could be for mclaren. That might be getting a little bit over the top but it was. It was brilliant anyway. Sorry you're charging base why it carried away. Now you're right. I mean you're right it was. I think when we all saw norris pop fourth two tenths off pole position. We'll kind of a minute one day because it was a sensational latte from him in a great performance and i think it does sort of point towards the trajectory mclaren of being on in the past few years so they've banished the demons of honda air. That is all very. Everything's going in the right direction. Now and i think that's well i looked at line though is the he. He's in the right place although he's not going to be in what will currently considered to be a top drive. Such as at mercedes will ferrario red bulb. Perhaps in india succumb the way mclaren is moving but if he is the drive for the future he's paul what their future is going to be the nas. I should really great spots beyond. We've got them getting the mercedes. Palino's from maxine land himself said it's just new round by the package that should offer a good step in performance a got the investment in a team that was announced. Dopey as well so again. It's all coming together the any winds hano and just all the building blocks really nicely in place i think from clarence obey a real force in the future and i think london has been he can be a really big off. I think that this season he is sort of avoided the guest so second season syndrome and when i spotted him about this. Put it in times of the amused costs. A lot of them have an amazing debut album. Then the second album's bit nathaniel all. No actually that could also and he's kind of the same drivers you think about those who've come in i mean pe- ghazwan for exam blaze festival season Toronto fantastic and then. He stepped up red bull in just fell apart and blando despite himself. He's spoken about so the men's challenges in struggles. He's faced next one in the past. He was manage everything and put in such a a really really so strong season. And as you say that was sorta moments why he themselves down star. I think he's probably the big big biggest example that weekend but he He was. I think two particular things will sit out for me The law antics in both of the austria races because that was really cpap video of Guessing that podium for the stadium priori being coached around the push this there and everything but the him to execute. Make up a two second Time so wintertime pouncey allowed an audit the podium thousands hostage absolutely brilliant and he did a similar thing a week later styrian grown pre passing three calls in the final two laps and it was just really really sold. Nice punchy fighting spirit. that don't happen again. I kind of think a gas A ripple twenty nine eight and he just didn't didn't have the sort of the gumption on the aggressiveness to get off these drivers whereas is his second season but he's able to do that pretty comfortably and then in turkey again. When he had the bat stopped he was really really thought about managing ties. Since i really wear these down and push these down. I don't think about coming in for slicks 'cause i can make them a set of i. Think slicks mediates was was the leading i-it's but get them as bold as possible and then his lap at the end was navy two seconds quicker than anything. Anyone else did alright. So i think he's just little things like that is really clavo rights management in. That's landau the i think is radiating press made through his he seasons and i think that while maybe he's not in top line team. Now i'm really mclaren is probably going to be the ceiling in terms of what team he's going to be at the next five the a pair. It's i think the way that mclaren moving by his radio could spark debate. And i think if he can also learn from tanya of the next seasonal not Match against recalled. Asking me fascinating. Because i think he can just only sort of the growing gravity's he has. It's a really exciting signs llandough. I think absolutely not something. I wanted to touch upon. That kept d- d. Would you agree that maybe just on the face thinking that going instance norris of the three drivers that we've highlighted arguably has the most difficult job because he's going up against a very highly rated nitty might. He's been at the team for two years now. he's got a lot lot less experience. I rolling for me to one but russell still going to be we've williams. He's going to be racing. Nicholas not again old is going to continue on his grabbing. What result he can. We've called the guy that i've been to make progress and are still going to be developing going into twenty twenty one before switching to twenty two thousand car that package. He's been dating with our time. Scientists going to ferrara which we now is a very difficult situation even when things are going well but he will nevertheless be arriving as the the newcomer rather than the incumbent. So you can say okay. Well class going to have experience on things that will come to talk about science and a bit more depth in a minute but norris. He's team that you he's is going to be if we're caught caught it comes in and plays them out. The water is going to be difficult. I'm not necessarily saying that's going to happen. But what do you think about that situation. Yeah now that is a good question. Also so pulmonary. Now i mean i if i had to choose which of that positions thought bay wouldn't to be the guy guy into for our wallets in the state of mid shambles but yes the science will probably be given a little bit more of a of a few like than land but the thing is one thing to relax at him is that he's he. Doesn't these items supply this guy that's really had a budget problems throughout his career. Know he's always been well-supported funded and has got stick from the drivers a lot for that. But he's delivered every every level and there's many talks when he won the award which took the three finalists the other follies that year. You're trying to get andrey skin about a just bidzos. Battling it off. And then when he won all had say lucky person to excavate him out of the room so the two hundred other people in the room could stop drinking because he was originally when the ball had to try and get through the well wishes an wise. So what else could have their evening. And so we went inside the lobby of the hotel and he. He was really quite emotional. Is it means so much to be Sort of acknowledged by people are just around the time you know. Worry the votes All ages the want to hear all this makes me feel of you know off something. And i thought that was quite quite telling he was immune some big you. Just tell them that all the time eventually. I just believe it might become impulsivity. Any never has needle ways Thinking self critical about mistakes as my the noise votes to learn Thing if reality comes. I think he's probably the best job. is a world champion sums of the established. Dravis admit might not get another chance. Depends where mccown garages as as now. He's very very good. The october cheesy might be bought past nothing box. He's very good. So that's a that's a really tough loss by landers probably got enough about him that he learned for mccotter. It doesn't strike me as political prior. He just goes out in the draws the call nothing landau To a good relationship with saw talking kandasamy that another notch Rather than ever. We're going to be an absolute he'd together. I think it'll be a very nice fun place to be this year Is a car is way competitive which Out in the back of it. I wouldn't put it past ought to put out a couple of interesting results. Generaux the clips on twitter and tiktok of record norris hijinks even when team they measure beecham using better. Yeah i like stories like that came about what he said about noise at the award capacity. Find that really really interesting. That ye get united today. Hey well what these athletes and these really successful people think they don't. That's one of the things aren't so interesting for me. It stays the human stories. I've i've i've other things and the let's move to final selection legal at the very wonderfully designed kaliszan. Junior in the magazines are the ways presented becoming a ferrari driver. I'm yeah what have you got. Say about science. Because he's inching he's east audio to than the other. He's been around for a while but he's had a. He's had a really varied one story coming in with repco till i obviously not the favored drivers it will not be nearly ends up out of formula one. And then you know. He's rescued while mclaren when things when i was on schedule and a massive chance. We ferrari the obviously really really likes what it sees any ease dry. He was very very unlucky. Simonyi occasions lawson cannot tire failure silverstein stall at spa and so many times. It lost big results. I also took about nurses drive at tacky i. I picked sciences dr as as one of his best seasons me not saying rates because the way he did look claire and the headlines for coming through in any being on the podium songs we just behind that fight for the fighting base. it allows obsolete terrific but Yeah what what. What are we thinking about science. When it comes to potentially succeeding louis up along we had his performances such as though. I think that we've really seen from science in the past two years particularly and as he say he was in two thousand eighteen. He wasn't a choice for anyone rebelled in. Won't him renai didn't want him mclaren. I that preference was a fernando. Orlando lineup going in nineteen before launch site. Adam cold at quit site it was a it was already difficult. Period pimm ego given that mclaren state on a two year deal and he's always spoken so much about stability tape that multi gave him. He wasn't in the right right as capital loss. Rice given the cutthroat nature of rebel program or anything like that and and not brown story. Nice story actually. About how off scientists qualifying where not gotten key one in australia. Twenty nineteen coming across cabela's outta Something that ruined his lap. Browns doria neural. You've got this. You'll bounce back inside turnaround on said no one ever says that's me like no one's giving me that support or anything and i think that's what mclaren has given him over. The past two years needs flourish. Because of the i think that is brow the best of them as we slow ride. The way through twenty nine lead them to forge constructors championship. And then this year gani the number of outstanding full ince's said i think i started on the second onsite saying that. If it being a few more laps munza he probably would have One that rice because he lost a chunk of time but he was reset to sex than Had to pick a dafur mayo's their opposition than everything i that meant by the time he got back speed to ghazi was well up the road and but that was also weekend where actually songs would probably finish second anyway behind lewis hamilton. How do we know. Have the red flag and everything just because of how quick wall so it's performances like that the site outstanding and the have really made it now. Why ferrari wanted him. That's why they look to what was going on with mexico and said let's just not working. Let's go is signs for the future and again he's got ta dale at ferrari and ultimately we know that seems being built around child o'clock that that that we can't deny the clock is more likely also drive to to become a champion but sci. He's never he's never gone into team being accounting play. Federal or anything like that. I mean we know as the stopping at ross site. He really really round max close. That was a little bit of tension growing between the two of them Those ultimately what max got pulled red bull side. i don't think science is absent. Economic kerala So ever and. I think that he's going. I mean. Cathy said very kindly. When you set fire was mitch shambles. I think that that rather is rather cheapness twenty wells. They're coming into twenty twenty one. It's going to be many call. Be as bad as last year. The power unit is going to have an update on the carrier over the cau- i mean ultimately it's gonna mean Rectify all the issues overnight. You're anything but they also have thinking let's at least equities that food but then and this is something the call of back about was the the resources that ferrari has on his ability to always bounce back eventually find. The right way. Means the come twenty two when we have the new regulations. Actually things are looking. Quite good is a good spot bay and he said he found it pretty annoying when he had all the people ask him saying oh up you regret that move or anything like that because it's it is the dream move the f one drivers one thing. Everyone does dream one day of wearing those those red colors that yeah. He's going into a same way. He's maybe not going to be the number one bought he's also not gonna i don't think he's gonna found are so i think he's going to be. I think he's going to try and challenge the clock. Can i think he can be a good match. Ram and i think that is going to be the ultimate test for him. I think that it is as we said. The clock is already established as being one of the possible as hamilton's throat. And i think the scientists the chance to say well can you can you match the likes of maximum. You up with them. And i'm i'm reading last night six. I think that In the past couple season sees radio-ready proved himself to be one of the on top drivers. Kathy think science seizing a position where he's got to show what he can do. Very very quickly. Ferrari is in a very tough situation because hugging me hardly any testing zoning and nine half in what a call essentially tells the club were very very well from twenty twenty as we point out elsewhere in this in this issue taste. What maxine ferrari. You've got a lot drivers on. Its books coming up behind the the got mixed mce hass and you've got kind of model is going to be the test driver. Reserve driver probably allies not so officially nine is not in the announcement of flour made and then rich wasserman. We'll will move more than likely. Be the favorite going in after in two thousand twenty one. So could you eat. They're not of concern for science already. Speculation the off season. We're not these things. And the ferrari takes two years to get back to the position of being able to challenge for the world title and by that point clubs blinding away and they'll be clemens for for somebody else coming replace him. I mean i see that happening. Auden is coming through on the nathan. The academy are actually what good enough. I mean i could be wrong. She might his dad's Khufu but often. I think the saudis will be close enough. And i think you because they won't have a front running call. You can conned. Who as get why we think is a little bit in the midfield. If you if you have the null apart from with you're right. Dr rising alex you dig into every single job. I think in water. Well you can get away with the old badge style bad. I lap a lot. That being slip builth yet gap between faith in six on the grill sentence and not on the greatest The first and second. They'll i thirty so obvious. And if you if you mess up of the front row it looks terrible as they decided thing for Ninety readingnight states fifty three blind before someone spelt sits thing site. I think he'll probably your thought nothing. He wiped made mushonga got the spayed. I think you already the number one. His we still that with nelson piquet. -nology matsui's mice. Famous example williams. The tights the stop. Watch to switch round the contracts. If you if you number number twos cooking number one attorney that will happen. But it doesn't look too good while i agree with with I think you'll give the Some paul towns because he did with a shopping. So interesting thing we saw Landau jill jeez. He actually had caught up and down the road to f one as well russell norris Pretty much delivered the every stage on the Kind of have early on science had some good moments but simone saito own levies. No actually caught and a guy and he's also had not been down. Thomas llano thing. That's not so much he's i in full. Think probably getting too close to shopping. And then losing that particular infrared Was probably the the problem air but he has. He's got there. It's where you end up not how you get. There is in that in that regard and the is one of the best drivers In london deserves a big team in dayton. The thing is you mentioned. Dr rings Kaliszan slums long as he doesn't have regular spins in the pack and foul to make key to about twelve occasions and smash did here. He can escape the similar scoring the veterans getting brokers all season it the trout licensing sebastian. Vessel here maybe. We'll look forward to that in the coming weeks when we see the full livery and the lineup and with a big changes in excitement coming the aston martin team being announced well i thought we just end on a little bit of a little bit of a choice in terms of who we think of as three is the most likely to become how much at now. I'm afraid i've already suggested who i think is going to be because of the nature of his mercedes. Contract got george russell like if you had to pick one of the three go on to win ninety five guam. Bray was on this one of the three. Go to release eight hundred of the preeminent force who would you pick. I think it has to be zero draw so we i think that just the position he is in. I think that it takes one race. It takes one event for. Everything's change. And i think that in the cave really date prove what he can do for the future and i think i landau and colossus as we set off on tastic. This by the way stars are lining george. I think the fact that he had that full showed he can outpace. Boss asks the he's contracts at the end of this year baltasar contracts at the end of this year. I just fail. The things are moving joy. Russell's way so. I think that if anyone's going to be the real the real ads thomason throw him. I think george russell's the man while already wanna be interesting in say something different. I agree. i think he's i think the question mulcahy's does replace all tasks and against lewis hamilton while learn from stalwarts and then golf against him. Oh decides off the twenty twenty one. These eighth welts audran face gold Gio of is actually on radio. Lot gundy something else. And then you've got and you go russell lineup and boskin finish second to a different race. Gerow yeah. Nothing is offic. Is joe july but a unanimous decision that although i think that is more to do with the circumstances that russell wilson and the nature one in you know he's not the fact that they're all equal machinery will with equal is just because of the nature of the beast. And you got a guy with that. You agree with that logic in that. Yeah he's in a position where you would think logically. He would end up in a mercedes. And there's no reason suspect that they will lose that position even getting into two thousand twenty two although you know there are massive changes with those designs is possible as we as we know seeing all the big air has come to an end is just the top would in two thousand seventeen when it was the previous picked on change site that remains the feature. So it's nice to have and it will think can guesswork and you know just didn't just enjoy what we can about about the wanting during the off season and difficult one as is for everyone at elsewhere in the magazine League written a review of the twenty twenty formula season it was It was really interesting campaign. I mean how do this of struggles that formula organizing colander. What was going to what was gonna happen. And no one seems to really have a whole of momentum the away free but mixing makati eventually emerged as the champion site. Yeah whatever you put in your review makers all sorts of Media coups was the end of the season. Threes house deal was announced. House eighth leading about winning the championship and looking forward to one yet. Massively excited obviously. And i think that he he cited. His consistency is just being The key to success is here was nothing that that was very true and it was. It was nice looking back what was actually a really good after season and yet so many good drivers sort of fighting about championship but none of them could quite string. Everything's gathering in the same way that the then look at columbia. He was rapid on occasion took five positions whereas i think makes average qualifying station. Was i think what's out to be. Seven site didn't quite have as much goodful as common did in terms of qualifying but then challenges might too many errors and they're really and he just didn't quite have enough as a beat making the ties to rice yukisada again. He was very very strong. If you took away or the spring races is only have the feature rights counting points so neither actually wins the title. He was very very good About i think he's exciting for the future. He was up there as well. But none of them. Quite the same consistency. That makes it so. I think that that was really the key to his success this year. And he's just really excited for. You can donate one next season. Then he knows that he's going into haas team that has struggled for the past couple of years. That is very much going into transition yet. Just wanna look at its twins twenty. He's on a multi day. Oba and i touched on the in. Every single category is being. It's always being second season where he might just massive step up and learn so much really really improved so i think that if that ties in with haas also making a same kind of step i think yet. Twenty twenty two. It could be riddick sizing mic seeing that. She mcenany back in at one this year. I think he's Yeah hugely exciting. Kev else should the listeners. Go and check out autosport magazine this week apart from my excellent column on page fifteen we. I don't wanna give the impression that loop right the magazine optical pages but Yeah we'll say. I'm mark simmons to look at the at three three seasons well capacity just quickly superb headline. I'm imagining may. 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