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Starts of the Week + Week 11 Breakdown, Heartfelt Apologies

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Starts of the Week + Week 11 Breakdown, Heartfelt Apologies

"Well to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from Pristina. Auction Dot Com studios with your hose. Andy Holloway Jason Moore and Mike Right. Welcome in football excited to be with you. Thursday football time football o clock coming soon November fourteenth. We are the fantasy football. There's any Jason back with you for yet. Another wonderful week of fantasy football. You can find us on instagram instagram dot com slash fantasy football twitter followers the websites. The fantasy footballers dot com at the top of the show. I wanted to sue mentioned a couple of quick things before we get to some very heartfelt apologies that are going to take place could be tough. Yeah we're going to apologize to one player that we were just wrong about their talent. Okay like a couple years ago. I probably would have needed needed to do this for Marlin Mac. For example. I just didn't believe in the talent Marlin Mac but we're each going to do one for for twenty nineteen before we get there. I want to congratulate all of the Mega Bowl participants. That are now in the playoff which which is about fifteen hundred teams that made the playoffs of the seven thousand entered so the top three of every league and I wanNA give a shout out to Ray Smith who's been the measurable Bull Admin Komitch of four hundred ninety one leaks as not easy. No I could handle three to two. I was GONNA say. Give give me one. But he has been bad job with it. Yeah and so. Congratulations to everybody in there We had a few bumps in the road this week with regards to waiver pickups where basically playoff teams. You can't pick up waivers in After week ten some teams accidentally got some waivers and they're being reversed and fixed and we just did a new post at joined the foot dot com. So if you're in the mega ball you want to know what's going on head over to join DOT com. Make sure you're checking in there. That's where we post all the updates. That's where we obviously that's the hub where everyone is so. That's where we posted about a rosters being locked and all that. Yeah and we'll be reducing the playoff they off teams by fifty percent every week. So the top scores go on and then we'll have a mega bowl chance and that'll be pretty sweet and then somebody quite a few people have asked us. How the sleeper The Super Bowl that we participated in with Juju Smith Schuster and Ninja Acuff. Ron Tim the TAP man. Karl Anthony Towns town. You seen Karl Anthony towns lately by the way he's seven foot two and he can cross you over like he's Tim Hardaway. It's ridiculous highlights coming in this year. Insane people want to know how the League's going and I am directing our team of producers. Pretty pretty good yes we it's it's going pretty good Mike but I am directing our Albor Lynn and judge Diamanti to please tweet the full standings today people. I WANNA know how it's going but when I tweeted some stuff like we're eight and two were tied for. I think it's correct. But they WANNA see how everybody else because that was a really fun event. Doing that live have draft and if we manage to bring this home It's GONNA mean more money for Saint Jude. Those right so that's pretty exciting. All right anything else you guys want to to touch on. We've got matchups today on the show after our apologies we've got starts of the week is going to be a great episode always handy. I hope you apologize to me. I just feel like they get ready. It's coming all right. Who wants to kick it off? I do okay Andy Oh to me I apologize for nothing however there is someone out there that look at my heart hearts. I thought some bad things soon. Decay metcalf you are a one trick pony you are not just the guy who can run straight faster than everyone else because you're bigger and faster and stronger than everyone else. I remember watching in training camp as beat reporters. Would they put out a video. CENA que and I'd go move. Tk Sex Not a good cut. But you're it done your rookie and you look good on all route tree and I think your future's bright so I apologize for being wrong long about my thoughts on your Jilani yet. been a pleasant surprise. I mean we all knew quarterback to do that helps we. We all knew he was as as freakish as it gets in the landscape of NFL freak athletes. He's just a a beast but there were there was some skepticism. You know. You really didn't see much in college wanting in the leading receiver on his own team and and you know there were questions about. Can he do more can he. Do everything needed as an NFL. Wide Receiver as is. He just great athlete. And I think he's GonNa get the job. Done have a great career. Quick Follow Up Dynasty Weiss Z.. Apology and everything. What you've seen this year? You actually more excited about decay metcalf long term now. Yeah I mean I think decay mccafe has a solid wide receiver to too wide receiver. One career for the next seven seven years. All Right Mike. Are you prepared. Yes is this going to be difficult for. It will be difficult for the person as well interesting. I need to talk about Amari Cooper Amari Cooper and to be fair to this apology apology. Because I'm nothing but fair Ned I agree. I questioned some things about you over this summer but they were related to your consistency. Never to your talent or ability because we saw you be an incredible wide receiver in the NFL and then raise their game and we saw you vanish into thin air. As if you just didn't really care what was happening to my credit. Through the first six just weeks I looked very correct because about fifty percent of the time fantasy players were happy with you however things things are turning the right direction you have become more consistent as the year has gone on. I apologized you Amari Cooper to my credit. There's there's definitely the best part of your apology but I was right for a little bit. uh-huh I apologize for fifty percent or something just a little bit yeah. Mari has been incredible for Dak to do you. You know they haven't come to a new new terms on a new deal but you expect him back in Dallas Tina I yes Zia would all right. They'll get they'll get the band together. Yeah what do you think about. Randall Com having a nice week. Last week was that just shocking to you a little a bit random. I mean we'll talk about it in the match but he he set up this week. I mean Patriots Bills Bears. Rams Rams is going to be a a a rough stretch in a couple of weeks milit- well we'll see all right. Mike you're going to enjoy mine jeeves. Connor I did question a lot about your ability and talent and while I have to be honest. I'm not sure if I like you because Jalen Samuels is so slow and Brooks James is so nothing and and Snell. Benny Snell is so hurt. But the truth is James. You're Delta rough hand this year no big Ben was pocket tube sock it to three. But what's impressed me is that you are a really competent receiver out of the backfield. You're a despite missing games. A top ten yards yards after the catch wide receiver. Mike is conducting this apology. Our hands this is our players. You're catching ninety percent percent of passes and you are so far and away better than the other players on that team and because of that you can overcome a defense. I I Mason Rudolph situation to become a very relevant fantasy running back. That's that's what the team said. They say Were Defense I. I Mason Rudolph third type of team. That's that's that's their mentality. That's that's the sign up when they go out of the locker room they'll hit that on the way out at the top defense I Mason Rudolph learn to get petty for a second real real petty Can't stand Mason Rudolph High White Sox rid yourself out of this but that is real real weird player. Because I don't want to take anything away from the he's been able to execute. We talked about it yesterday yesterday. The offensive line's been amazing for him. I've never seen a player that looks worse on his bad place like he looks incompetent when he's bad not just like Oh. I made a little mistake. He looks like he's a complete green quarterback. I play of his life. He's a Martian. Yes that's what I'm getting it now. Just just like a trubisky just brandon. I see and then. But he's made great plays and he's using his wide receivers in the winning game. So you gotta give credit where credit it is do. Shall we move on. Gentlemen a Pittsburgh Defense Minka. Fitzpatrick is the best quarterback that they've ever had the news and notes from around the League presented by sleepwear all right. We have to laugh at this because poor Al Borland. Nobody's posted more jumping out of a window gifts in the last like seven days. The now Borland I traded him George Kibble and one of our leagues right at the trade deadline for his stretch run. He paid up. He paid up and kill is torturing this man. He's nodding in sadness. Sadness tears rolling down his face. George kibble yesterday afternoon it was reported. He's GonNa miss the game against the cardinals which out which I do expect him to to. I'm going to miss the game. And then this morning there was a clarification. Br Put al by Santa Hand that he's not been formerly ruled out. which simply means you as a fantasy owner Al L. and everyone out there with An incredible George. biddle asset are going to be tortured by the illustrious Q.. Not allowing him to be moved into your I. Why are spot was formerly ruled out? was that first report from Ross dwelling. If I were asked Willie I might try to do that based on the cardinals tied in defense. He's just he's going with the Oprah secret he's just putting it out into the universe letting it happen yes so right now no formal formal rule out but don't expect George Kill. Make your plans now. Make your free agent signings now. Like memory has not ruled out as well right. He's expected didn't miss one to two weeks I know but he's doing ruled except on the other side. He's probably going to end up being in the game because he always for for a quarter I think he actually Mrs to give a straightforward advice. Brita should miss a game or two. But you're right nothing formal. That hurts the team if you can't put them into the IRA spot couple of injury. UPDATES before we get into our matchups. Jacoby percent is expected to start week. Eleven it's great news so he he practiced in full yesterday so so. It's just a matter of today if there's no swelling and everything is good to go than than he's a Green Light Austin. Hooper expected to be out a month. Liu Keep Your eyes on Russell Gauge over the next van full of weeks snap counts target. Share was already. Okay Yeah lost in Hooper's gone that's a great point I've been bringing up Calvin Ridley as a guy that I I think it's going to have a really nice stretch. Run here and I and I do believe that. But you can't just go get it Calvin Ridley whereas Russell Gauge. He's out there on your waivers. You can go scoop them up. And he's sounds like an action star Dude Russell Gauge VIN diesel in the new new Sark. Lido easy isn't a revenge. Movie in the new movie Mediocre Slot Receiver was Gome. Shooter tick do also gauge. I'll hot take. I'd rather have Russell Gauge on my roster arrest season Larry Fitzgerald so that hot okay. It was all right Matt Burrito like I said one to two weeks Tyler Lockett. DOC is expected to be ready to play week twelve after the bye week later. David Montgomery Limited in practice. Joe Everett Limited. DD returned to practice practice Wednesday. How do you approach Jacksonville? I am very I am extremely. I think there are trapped. This week is what is my point. I think they're a trap against Washington trying to mean the colts. Yeah sorry the colts okay. Okay with with Foale's coming back or with Didi coming back. I just WanNa see it to believe it. Are you all in on Jack. I am very excited for what could happen. Open to Jacksonville. Because I do think nick foles city is a yes. is a better quarterback than Garner men shoe and the team is already been mm producing some really excellent fantasy options. Dj Chart Leonard Fournette. I'm excited to see them. Progress forward. But I'm definitely taking a wait and see the approach. I'M A it's a hopeful. benching of Dede Westbrook. I you know you'll still start. Dj Shark because you probably have to at this point and and for Matt but with I'm not playing foles I'm not playing Didi but I am hopeful. I'm willing to play. Didi his target share and everything. It was safe I get it was it. It was Gardner but everything of Nick foles that we know about him. I think I relying not not just on the preseason but just the entire body body of work of Nick foles using week one coming back off the injury one of Nick foles your and against the pretty competent defense. The injury is my concern. I've I've I've said this this week on the show. I'm I'm taking a stop calling your shot approach. If you're not a star right like James Connors a star fantasy running back. He's coming back off. He goes right in my line of but DD is a guy that he's going to have to prove it to me from here on news and notes always brought to you by the sleeper sleeper up. Tomorrow we'll have in and out on the show we're going to we're going to tweak in and out a little bit we're we're going to focus that down to just the really big names that you need predictions on because we've got the game day alerts coming every Sunday morning. A lot changes with Friday practice reports Saturday and then we've got Sunday live. Mike's live on Sunday morning with last minute injury reports so we'll we'll get you analysis updates on the biggest names tomorrow that people are doubting their availability. And so you can stay a tune for that. You guys for some forecasts Forecast all right. We've got the broncos Texans. jags Patriots Eagles Redskins all coming back off the bye. Welcome back to your liner packers. The giants seahawks titans on by this week. And if you're planning ahead cardinals maybe Christian Kirkcaldy Murray you got the the chiefs that it's a big one big one. No Patrick Mahomes and company chargers Vikings next week Dalvin Cook. That's a rough one. Yeah there's a lot of very big fantasy players players that'll be missing week twelve in. That could be very very important for your fantasy team in terms of the playoff run. All right let's get into our first matchup the cowboys choice at five and four take on the Detroit. Lions there are three five and one cowboys are three point favorites on the road here. It's a fifty one and a a half point over under. Yes that line that over under certainly implies the return of Matthew Stafford that has ask too. I mean I. It's crazy. Be Dear you said Driscoll Yeah I mean I think you have to have stafford here. If you're GONNA hit that number but Matt Patricia has really created a defense that says what maybe not. Maybe you can score all the time. Would that be Patricia. Would that be driscoll willing to give points up driscoll throws team effort. If he throws for a touchdown it doesn't matter what team he goes still goes to the over under. That's no matter what team you're on his his pants. But Detroit's given up the fifth most fantasy points to quarterbacks over the last month they are as you said completely vulnerable to all positions one. The worst defenses in terms of fancy points allowed Dak.. Prescott Ezekiel Elliott Amari Cooper. Those of your locked and loaded starts arts when you look at question marks on the Dallas side. It's do I play Michael Gallup again. Do I take a shot on Cobb and deep leagues in. Am I willing to start the pedestrian man. Jason Witten the the pedestrian. Yes the pedestrian because he is four more targets every game. They're not sexy and they're not special. Jason Whitten's out there and you know he's out there. Don't run walk. That's right confidential. In theaters starring former reminded Monday night football analyst. But does he leave that off his resume. I don't I don't think I put that on. They don't care how bad you know. boogers going to have it on burgers not there for forever. There's no way boogers singing around. I wish there was a button on my remote for Jasbir Mute. Everything I hear everything else. But when bugger sorry Michael Gal is he a smash play this week against the lions. He should be. I don't think you could say he's a smash play. He's certainly a guy that ah you know. I can get it done. He had you know a touchdown Last week the last two weeks he's at a touchdown and he's a talented receiver in a plus matchup. I like that. But it's it's one of those situations where he hasn't been great. He's really disappointed after those first three weeks where he was The first games I should say he. He missed a couple of weeks in there. He had everybody salivating at the potential of this one two punch from Cooper and in gals from the Salt Lake. And and I don't get that it's a whole it's Ju- I did take me a couple of seconds because y'all yeah okay. I'm there I. I'm not super familiar with the Salt Lake. I think I think we've seen some interesting things from Gallup. He's actually in the category category of receiver. That is very high yards from scrimmage touch. He's in the Evans. Metcalf digs Mike Williams category. Where I think we thought if Cooper went out Gallup would become this? Pr Guy Well. He's more of a big play guy touchdown guy good game last week but I think you start stardom in this man. I think you can as well. Hooper helps him is kind of the short of that story as more of a Robin at this point in his career will. What's a little bit concerning is just look? Look back at the recent games. I mean. You're doing some box score surfing here. But when he's having when he had the great game against Minnesota. 'cause game script dictated dictated that the cowboys needed to throw you go back a couple of weeks against the giants it was a blowout was barely used by the touchstone of against Philadelphia. A blowout with barely used. So that's that's the concern with Gallup. His his ceiling is incredible. Four for seventy six with a touchdown last week back but I think his floor is very low he he's he's volatile and should not be played as a safe wide receiver to do. Would you feel more confidence. If Stafford is indeed playing on the other side Yes someone that can run up the score. Yes definitely Stafford. Being in this game makes a huge difference because I don't think it will driscoll's goals going to get it done enough against what what is I. Think an above average Dallas Defense So yeah if Stafford is here I like Gallup a lot more all right on the other side of the ball. Golly Dean Jones are they both being started for you at home regardless if the quarterback situation yeah wait no not regard I take it back not regardless I'll still play Kennedy Golladay. I mean you even if it's Jeff Driscoll but but Marvin Jones I mean. He's he's pretty similar to to The way I feel about Michael Gallup where you can play him as a a two. But he's just he's not safe he's not safe at all and the thing is is Dallas as defence against water. cheever's has has been great. I mean they. They really have not given up. They've given up one big week on the season. One big score shockingly. That was to Sam Darnold. Very unexpected Outside of that. The there's not been a lot of feasting here You know by wide receivers against Dallas on the seas. I wish we didn't have. I wish we were able to stay. In the fire and flames the mantis tavern had been yes putting up because that was a wonderful three-game stretch and you know it's just better for everybody. It's better for Hopkinson hopes is better for Marvin Any interest in the running back situation at all in in Detroit and Detroit. JD mckissick sick. You know of tie. Johnson's we talked about. Maybe a FLEX DART throw it. It certainly possible. He had ten carries and seven targets. This past week you. He would expect those targets to continue at least be in the four to five range but that was also a product of of necessity where the game plan was to use tied Johnson and mckissick. Now if they're planning to move forward that Johnson is not going to be there. What does that split actually? Look like well mckissick get double digit carries. I doubt it so he's he's still an okay dart thrown. Pr Leagues All right. We've you've got the jags colts matchup coming up next before that. I want to thank today sponsor. We're talking about linked in wanted me to mention my most rewarding according job ever and frankly it's this it's this one but I also had the opportunity before this to work for a gaming company. Vinny doing FACEBOOK and IOS Games for many years as a very rewarding job. In a lot of you out there you're looking for that next opportunity and you want it to be a rewarding. The job that you're passionate about that you're excited. 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Jacksonville going to Indianapolis from the the JAGS. Our foreign five nick foles back culture five and four. They get your copay for setback. Games only got forty three and a half point over under the culture two and a half point favorites. It's I leaned the under and I actually look at this matchup and not finding a lot of smashed place for me it I I. It's hard to disagree. I'll just start with the Jacksonville Charlotte. Dj Shark and. I don't know how you possibly bench Charq at at this point. I don't think you can bench charge at all. I think you have to but man risky. Yeah and just just not a top fifteen guy this week sure. Yeah it does seem like the ceilings cap. The colts are strong against fantasy wide. Receivers they are tenth allowing just over twenty five points a game to the position but like back to Didi you saw once again. It was the preseason game but nick foles went almost exclusively to him nine tar. He was injured. So let me ask me frame of this way. If Dede Westbrook were not coming off the the injury I would still wait a week you would still be waiting. I would because we didn't we didn't see it. Manifest in in in the regular season with Foale's is coming off the injury solid defense on the road I did. I would play Russell Gauge over D I would play. Wow a lot of those type of guys over Dede because he has not done anything to prove anything. I think these are one eighty three. Yes he had a game but he hasn't had a game with Foale's yet and he. You're saying you play charcoal westbrook right. Yes so then. You're looking at a secondary and dairy option on a run first team on the road with a low of or under. It's not a situation that I personally look. I have nothing against Didi but I I like opportunities for You know other players a lot more than I do this week. Yeah coming into the season you know. We hadn't seen anything between deedee and Nick foles and we were willing to play em in week one for a really good option but things have changed. Dj Charq was not anything special coming into week one to two the fantasy community entity. We didn't see that breakout necessarily coming. And now I do worry that Deedee is going to be the two so I want. I want to wait and see Dede Westbrook or devante Parker Against Buffalo. I'll play devante parker that one dede westbrook. Here's what you need from him. You you need a lot. He's the lowest in the NFL average depth. The target six point one yards. He has to be. He has the comeback from injury and then tack back on a pile of them. I don't know because in the end zone I just don't I think the name is not worthy of the praise yet. It's just it's just my opinion. Sure he's averaged forty five yards a game and he's talented. But as Chris Collins there to Chris Conley has been active and involved been active and Leonard. Fournette has He's going to be the main man later for that RV Five on the week. That's where we have him Marlin. Mac what were you out with Marlin Mac. It hasn't been smooth sailing big games lately. No it hasn't been smooth sailing. Big Games but MAC is still been very good. I mean you're you're talking about you know he's not a guy that's going to finish the week at running back forty. Andy's face is saying that he has not been good. You know I'm just reading this. This was the shock to me since week. Seventies the RB thirty nine averaging ten fantasy points per game now is that on. That can't be -treme camping. I'm GonNa vet that because I think when Let me see the thing about. It is just touchdowns. Here's three three rushing touchdowns but you look back. Seventy four yards eighty nine seventy six with a touchdown. He's been perfectly fine. He's just not giving you burst games just like you were a can't be right. That can't be right but you're right. Yeah I mean three touchdowns on the season he had that monster a week one that really defined where his placement is on the season long Totals but I think that you know Jacksonville's Jacksonville's pretty competent defense. So I wouldn't expect a ceiling play here for Marlin Matt Yeah I mean I think he could have a really good game. I do. I Don Jacksonville. Some bill isn't a I don't think you have to be just a the worst defense in the world to give up a good game They aren't a shutdown rush defense defense and with Jacoby percent back. The colts offense running. Well we don't expect T Y Hilton. That's fairly to be back so I think they're going to rely Ryan Mack and and I think he could have a fine game. How do you feel about Zach? Pascal who should be the one again. He did not come through last week but mostly because Brian Hoyer did not come through against the Miami Dolphins but now you have jacoby percent. I don't have any confidence. Zack Pascale. All right MARLA. Mac is is the running back. It's still bad. The these last four weeks from seven on but he is the runningback nineteen. Yeah I would say if you look at the season and the expectations Asian week one. Would you say that you are disappointed in one of the MAC. He hasn't had a top ten. Finish that'll since week one. I mean sure he had a thirty six fifty one twenty six thirty. I mean he had running back eleven and running twelve. So let's say top ten. It seems accurate it. It seems nitpicking a narrative. He's had multiple top running back one. You say top twelve. It's not nitpicking. A narrative it's saying that like you you know when you look at all the players that rank above him or staples of your team. You expect him to litter in some weeks. That when you weeks right. How do you feel about Leonard for Shakeups? Four straight how about Leonard Fournette. Last four weeks you have. Has he been yeah. I mean because he's the running back seventeen whereas maximum MC nineteen over these last four weeks. Yeah so I mean they are guys wear but he didn't he didn't really beat you up. Mac beat you up a little bit in the last six weeks to be there tomorrow Mac. The last two weeks. He hasn't had his starting quarterback. Yeah that's true. He's got him back right. Yep He's going to be played on your team so maybe we're wasting our breath Pascale Jason Do you have confidence in him. No no okay and Devin funchess returning to practice even have the drop in here folks. No but I mean Dennis Sport who let's see. Let's see it's been a long time and we've we've got there's nothing we've got nothing better that way earn his way back out. I was trying to buy you time. There's there's nothing I can do bring burn all right Broncos. Vikings Broncos are three and six Viking seven and three brandon allen gets another opportunity kirk cousins at home in this one and they're ten and a half point point favorites. It's a forty point five over under and in case you're curious that means the broncos are not projected score very many points in this one. We've talked a little bit about Philip Lindsay this week confidence. He's our RB. Nineteen on the week whereas Dalvin Cook on the other side. The RB to he's been a top five running back seven out of nine games an absolute monster this season. Do you think Adam thiel and we'll be back this week because I do not I do not either but I think we we need need more information as the week goes on to be sure about that did not practice on Wednesday. Yeah I mean I I guess I wouldn't have necessarily expected him to practice on Wednesday. Today's practice is going. It'd be if he did not participate today. I don't I don't think I think you might speaking feeling alone. I guess it does depend on the practice of course but if you didn't practice Wednesday and we two weeks ago he played one play and left the field and you play Denver defense ranked third against the past. Are you just hands off a theline. I mean is there any reason that you're messing with that kind of risk and week. Eleven I mean. The reason is the upside of a healthy Phelan. Who is obviously a great fantasy option? But I think you're right. I think there is a David Johnson situation here where there's a lot of risk built into actually playing feeling if he's active all all right the by the way the Vikings are still leading the league in highest rush play percentage. So they've been able to win. They're seven and three they've been able to carry out there. The Mike Zimmer goal run the football and then we still had some You know a really efficient kirk cousins. Do you play cousins at home in this game. Are you willing to mess around with that or is he just kind of A. I'm not willing to play cousins home. I think that the Denver Broncos defense is starting to to click with Vic Fangio the beginning of the year. They were supposed to be this great defense and they were trash and it was like what is going on in Denver Ver- and I think we got this inclination. That Denver is a really easy opponent. They were losing a lot of games in general and then fantasy wise a lot of you. You know huge running back games against early on but really I think over the last few weeks. We've seen a defense that is playing very well clicking understanding the system and I don't think her cousins has been good enough to warrant playing in a nonplus matchup and I view this as a nonplus matchup. Now having said that Jason would you play Kirk cousins or Philip rivers is come on me. Oh Fuck I so Philip rivers who I hate now. I didn't but last week I made him. I started of the week and he looked terrible. He looked washed. He looked awful is Amazon. My team any other additives gives you WANNA use for world. Fill the sorus awful okay and all of them but I am playing him this week. You're back you're back about it but he's playing against Kansas City and you know basically I had to come down to the this decision Asian. But you're doing that over Carson Wentz. I'm doing that over Carson Wentz and I'm also you could throw another name out there because it was really my only pivot. It was Kylie and I just didn't have the confidence in I know Atlanta. You know you. They they could be but I would rather go with a vet against the in a high scoring game against ends Kansas City. Then Kyle can I add to what you're saying and just say I'm very much looking forward to seeing how this plays out Monday night game. The and one of the reasons I'm enjoying his column already have played. Yeah and the thing is is. We're playing against each other on Monday night. You have mahomes. I have up river. So it's not GonNa go well for me. It will be fun. Speaking of Allen's we got Brandon Allen. Okay we've got Brandon Allen I I don't mind playing corden inside and he feels like a very stable. You know slightly better Tyler Boyd situation where you know. He's going to get the majority of the target share over twenty five percent Yeah I I I don't mind playing him at all. Jason you're the highest Dunham this week. Wide Receiver Fifteen. I think it makes sense Philip rivers. We have running back. Nineteen like I said. Royce Lindsey easy. Yep Sorry Philip Rivers on the mind. Roy's Freeman rb thirty on the week. It's tough to have confidence about either of those guys because scoring opportunities should be very limited Minnesota and then the Vikings defense just giving up sixteen total points to running backs both of them seem like real hesitant and I'm stuck with them plays this week. No fant yes. No offense seems intriguing last two weeks. A twenty-seven percent and twenty two percent target target's shares are known as the two weeks without Emmanuel Sanders. Exactly and it. It changes things a lot just like he did on the positive side for the forty. niners is Noah. fant somebody that you are in your streaming consideration this week. Oh I'm sorry Jason or mike either want Jason's very excited to talk about fant. He is it definitely in the streaming consideration because what you look for in a streamer is someone with the opportunity right. Who is actually involved in the game plan on the in a passing role and there aren't many guys out there that are available on waivers that are as involved in the offense Noah fantasies? The problem is he's really. I shown himself to be a rookie and not produce as much as you'd like on each target coming his way now. The targets are worse so that's the downside. The upside is opportunity but talent and opportunity. Are there so I I am willing to have him in consideration ration- that's not to say that they're curious about him. I you know last week was the break are the last game. You play was the breakout week before the week before he had nine target right so when you say. The targets are worst. You mean that in the context of brain announce throwing them exactly which it's hard to call any target worse than Joe flacco target. Didn't go but Yes he also saw a nice uptick in snaps throughout the middle of the season he was basically playing on about sixty five percent then one sanders was gone jumped into the eighties. So it's he is you. You need to pay attention to it. It stinks to have to stream against the Minnesota. Vikings not not really because the the match against the Vikings at the time and is terrible their fourteenth but four room for Brandin. Now this should is going to be a really tough match-up much tougher for than his debut against the browns on the other side. Kyle Rudolph actually think you can stream him this week with if no Adam Feeley. If out of the owners out I agree with four touchdowns astounds over three weeks. We'll talk about him a little later. Believe it or not The Texans Ravens Texans six and three Raven seven and two. This should be a really fun game. Two of the most dynamic And best fantasy quarterback Eugene. It like knew these. These two guys are the future of the quarterback position. I yes patrick. Mahomes this as well. Well but Shawn Watson and Lamar Jackson this is we are very lucky that they are matched up this year. One of the reasons. Lamar Jackson has been so incredible for your fantasy team. Sure sure he's scored a ton of points but it's the way he's done it. He was a discount and the draft and he's been extremely consistent week to week. He's averaging seventy eight rushing rushing yards a game that might be the dictionary definition of consistency. If you put seventy eight on the board as the quarterback on average. You're just not going to end up at the bottom of the no you will you know. Twenty he's not GonNa ever end up in head twenties range six top five quarterback performances Just just for so people can understand how big that is for normal scoring. Which is dump for quarterbacks but the seventy eight rushing yards a game that is an average of if you translate it to passing yards two hundred passing yards a game baseline added to whatever he does? That's that's what some I'm quarterbacks. Finish a game with right. Yeah that's absolutely right and when you look at him and compare him to somebody. That's been very good on the season. Like Russell Wilson O. Wilson's finished you. You know kind of out. He's had like five kind of duddy weeks. Five monster weeks for Lamar's giving it to you every week as Shawn Watson for the most part five top five live QB performances. I'm super excited to see what happens. Here you're playing. Both of those guys automatically. I want pieces in this game wherever I can find them. Even wow young Carlos I think I even mean Carlos that's not saying like I'm super excited and I wish I I can plug him in but he's in that flex consideration where when I'm deciding between all these different flex options where there's reasons why they're flexible and there's plenty of reasons against them which is pretty much all your flex decisions. I one of my biggest tiebreakers is games that I think could go bananas and this is a Game Vegas. Has it at forty nine points. I think it hits the over because these two quarterbacks are just too good forty and forty nine point over over under ravens four and a half point home favorites if you're a GM right now which quarterback to you. Would you rather have for your franchise Watts Watson seed. Ah Watson's a better passer than then Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is maybe a better weapon than does does Shawn Watson but I think going forward longevity long-term Quality of the quarterback play you know. Will people be able to figure out over time you know. Lamar Jackson is still this his first year. Now the answered for me is no. They won't be able to figure it out they didn't figure check out ever I mean you can't figure out extreme athletics right. That's I lean Lamar but both are incredible. Do you have any like. Do you have concerns next year. If Greg Roman leaves Greg Roman the offense coordinator he has to be up up at the top of head. Coaching candidates he will be offered jobs. I don't think so okay. I don't think I'm concerned about that. I think they you know he's got a second year of establishing what he does and he's is gonNA improve and continue to the narrative of we liked Lamar because Greg Rome. It's coming as you saw what he did with. Tyrod tyrod got worse. When Greg Roman left the Nice Taverna's PAT is best years? Greg Roman no doubt. It's easy to trust good franchises and Kostas exactly harbaugh and that organization and they they brought Greg Roman in because they knew what they were doing and I so I trust in the organization. All Right Mike do Johnson or Carlos tied tide. Who'd rather flex in this game half points it's going to be Carlos Hyde if it's full? P P R I might give the edge to do Johnson who has had five. I target three weeks in a row. Markey's Brown we'll talk about him soon. Jason's the highest wide receiver. Nineteen right now. I think there's a lot of upside to them. Yes twenty. Two percent. Target share seems healthy the Hopkins. He's in will fuller. Should return maybe in a limited capacity. I'm personally hands off of film stills. I Agree Darren fells. Mark Andrews Andrews is an auto start fails as the he's in that category of these an auto stream is he years auto streams every week you can think about it yes yeah and You know going back to my belief of this game being able to be one where a ton of points are scored if you got if if you get into the game script back and forth. That's a game. Where Dan Phelps falls over for a touchdown all right jets? Two and seven take on the Redskins at one. Eight eight redskins are one point. Favorites makes my comment earlier in the week. That Washington was going to win. The game seem a little less. Hot Takeishi Dwayne askins will get the start against Sam Darnold. I I believe that this is GonNa going to be a low scoring game. There's going to be Vegas has thirty eight and a half who I'm not really excite pace of play wise. The redskins slow the game down as much as possible. I heard a stat from Jj a Zacharias Sin. That basically highlighted like pass attempts of quarterbacks facing the redskins. It's like twenty two. That's what the average on the year. So you don't you you look at the redskins juicy matchup but they don't they slow the game down and all of a sudden you look up as you know two minutes left in the third quarter like where am I passing points in leaning on Sam Darnold to break out on the road no twenty two pass attempts and be efficient you. Yeah this is a game that could end up finishing quickly because there's more running involved in a lower scoring game. I mean you have to pretty bad defense here but when you look at fantasy Eh. Points given up their middle of the pack and you go. Why're why aren't they a great play? And the reasons what you said is the game doesn't turn into any barn burner and there's no need that's why like you look at the redskins defense. The one place that they are really susceptible to in fantasy is running backs. Because that's the other team is up and they just keep running the ball. Yeah it's running back situation in Washington is a bit of an enigma. Today are right. Now you have. Adrian Peterson who was dealing with an ankle was limited with a tow dairies. Guys Returns Bill. Callahan came out and said we've got a pretty good rotational system for various guys and Adrian Peterson. He says we feel pretty confident. Guys we'll see quite a bit of action this weekend and then Peterson isn't worried about his workload. He said head coach Gruden was here. He's no longer here kind of different scenario. Wow and Chris Thompson is still out either sin. So where are you at with the situation bill. Callahan is happy to hand over the football as often as possible. Protect his rookie. A quarterback. Yeah they're going to try to have you know between these. Two banks are going to try to have thirty five carries. I don't know that they'll be able to do do that. But then what we've seen so far is game script doesn't matter they're they're gonNA keep running the ball even when they're down so the issue is just the split between AP and Geist ice. I had to start one. It would clearly be. I don't really love either option because with it being a low scoring game Anna Anna Split. It's kind of like taking a wide receiver to for Lamar Jackson. It's like okay Lamar's gray but there's such low passing volume when you split up the stats between multiple players. You look at target share and market share and all that you go. I need all of it in order to have a good game so I'm kind of out on both running backs here. I feel like Bill Callahan's putting the top position this week. The jets defense is giving it up to the wide receiver position. -sition the last three weeks if you look at our stream finder tool holy guacamole suggests just giving up so many points the white out so you look at term chlorine and you say can he be opportunistic. You're the just defence allowing the seventh most passing yards in the NFL. So what does Dwayne Haskins look like in a plus plus matchup for for throwing the football but with a coach that likes to run. I have no interest in playing Dwayne Haskins. But Yeah I'm back in on Terry maclaurin. This week it's been a rough stretch including the slop fest And maclaurin or Sorry a Haskins having to come in and looking like a deer Karen headlights. But he's had plenty of time now to prepare to be the starter and it. Maybe it's not a high volume for Tamer. Gloria the volume. We would like but I think he will be efficient enough that you're going to be happy. So in this game had to head Jamison crowder. Who's been pretty good? All revenge eighty yards and a touchdown in each of his last is to gain Jamison crowder or Terry McLaren in this one Washington at home. Who Do you prefer Terry? I've it's that's tough because I think Jameson is is the safer play. As in he is opportunity to bust is lower. But I would prefer to have Terry and then Robbie Anderson to marry his Thomas. Hey Hey you staying away skiing Robbie Damaris Thomas is. He's a strange case because he's getting so many targets. The twenty percent target argued share nine this past week three but then five for sixty three. I mean he's been okay as desperation play. All right. The Falcons at two and seven take on the panthers in Carolina Panthers Five and a half point favorites to forty nine and a half point over under the aforementioned. Kyle ailing the new quarterback for the Carolina Panthers. Elaine has given up six quarterback one performances this year so a lot a fantasy owners wanting to know allen or rivers allender Brady Allen Cuyler this week also Allen rivers. That's another question. People are asking also rivers versus Allen. Win Waivers were running. I decided it wasn't worth going. And Getting Kyle Alan Alan Spinning FAB dropping. Someone in as we've gotten closer looking at the match up ago you thought you would spend FAB to get Carl Allen. Yeah a AH was picked up so yeah I think so. I probably have to do that but I I look at this matchup and just think kyle. It's probably going to have a very good game Last week was a strange one and so I look at Vegas and I say well what does Vegas think about. The Atlanta Resurgence on defense innate. Don't think it's legit when you have an implied point two little twenty seven and a half for Carolina. They're at home they're favored. Hi over under so very very impressive for Atlanta. Doing what they did against New Orleans still optimistic. For Kyle Allan Allan Amount Ryan. I mean Matt Ryan on the road here. Traditionally you know a three hundred yard passer every single game having lost the new having lost. Yeah but he still has Julio Jones and he's still map yells Salaam devante Freeman. Eileen Matt Ryan gained Brian Hill depending on your perspective Ewelina Matt Ryan so I think he's a safer play for sure I'll and has a wider range of outcomes. Brian Hill love it. Yeah last week tons of work in a game where I think devante Freeman still had over thirty percent of the snaps before he got hurt Christian. McCaffrey let's not. Let's talk about only to say you're great. You're great Christian. Keep it up partner. Go get him go get them. Dj More more love and this week. We're GONNA talk about him shortly. He has been just a target monster of late over his last four games. He's got a sixteen game pace of a hundred in sixty targets. And so that the real equation here for Kyle in this Carolina offenses that Atlanta does enough on the road. That you know Matt Ryan can do enough with Russel. Gage Brian Hill. Julio Jones Calvin Ridley Calvin Elliot's been getting the snaps he has not been producing for your team. And so are you kind of. Are you trying to find another option this week. If you've just been locking Calvin Ridley in for two weeks. I am not is trying to find a different option. I'd rather play Calvin Ridley over a waiver. Demerits Thomas Who's interesting as a desperation play I would still play. Calvin Calvin over him Calvin or crowder crowder Calvin or Terry Terry. I guess you were terrier all right. And then Russell Gauge brought him up as an interesting stash. She plays Tampa next week. So if you know. He's one of those guys if you put them at the bottom of your bench even if you don't play him and he has a big week he's got a nice matchup coming up he's got pretty solid matchup right now. I agree but if you want to wait and seem like not all of us. Just throw them in all right. Some of I might have to but but it won't surprise me. If Russell Gauge has a better game than Calvin Ridley let me put it that way. Sure I mean you. You don't know where the targets are going to go. Obviously I don't think I think the Carolina Panthers are focusing in on Russell Gauge as the guy to stop Curtis Samuel this week also a solid play. Everybody against Atlanta has been for the most part outside of last week while the last week. You still had Nice Games for Michael Thomas. Cook Greg Olsen big game last week for ninety eight onto targets. He's definitely someone that you can. You should be starting at tight end. He's almost to the point where you go okay. He's if he's must start. I don't think you have to start him. There's other guys that I might pivot to but when you get ten targets last week and you start to to see him getting more involved with Kyle. Alan gives you gives you hope that he can be consistent. Unfortunately one of the things that happens once you get up there in age and I think Greg Olson's at the thirty thirty four thirty five range is we haven't we have lost some of that. You know the guaranteed connection that we had with him and You know he had a nice game this past week but but it had been bad for a pretty big run. You wonder what the ceiling is but you like the one hundred percent of snaps. Yeah on the other side. I'd do you hold Austin Hooper. If he's out four weeks were in week eleven eleven twelve thirteen fourteen eighteen. You're just saying I'm holding him for the championship and the semi-finals Yeah I hold really hundred percent. You hold the number one tied in you hold them through. And would you hold Travis Kelsey Fair. It's that's fair. Yeah you wars and you gotta you hooper in that Lynne's in unfortunately and I'm sorry to tell you this fantasy owners. Your odds are that you're probably playing. I don't know I know a Fantas- week and then like a next week and then no you're playing Abercrombie next week polisher. Yeah so you're probably rotating with frustration for four weeks. You'll be so happy to have off hooper coming back off of an MC L. tweak and he will be coming back. If you miss four weeks he will be coming back against San Francisco. Go on the road So that's your semi-final and you probably want to and then you get Jacksonville and the champion agency. And then Oh man it will be really hard for me to bench Austin Hooper in week fifteen to play dern felt right. If you're you're not going to be able to pivot to Hunter Henry Right now. So yeah you you probably are GonNa play him against San Francisco. It's really just unfold. He he's had a career year. Obviously leading the position in receptions options. It's unfortunate he doesn't get kind of finish that style now but I guess that means if you're one of those teams that has a you've got hunter Henry Than Someone Drops Austin Super Not picking him up in that situation. Are you competing for. I probably wouldn't at that point all right. Let's do some starts starts of the week all right Mike. Why don't you kick it off at the quarterback position station Josh Allen? He gets to play the Miami Dolphins. He has the the pleasure of playing the Miami Dolphins. He's League ed winning streak Miami Dolphins the that's true the longest the longest winning streak currently in the AFC east has got the rushing floor and this is a plus matchups for for two of his wide receivers and last year. In two games versus Miami rushing or Josh Allens rushing nine from one thirty five nine hundred ninety five and two. Just he's been taking over. There was little narrative. Ask but there was a report this week of Of the of Josh talking with his coach and essentially be being really given that green light of saying. Okay Josh Allen go go in the game you. You're making the decisions man. You make it happen all right. So you're going Josh Allen Jason I am doing it with Janus Winston I in. It's always scare. It's always it's always a rough sled to put him in your lineup. You can end up with a terrible game and when you look at the saints. They are dead middle as we say. As using as soon as I say against quarterback they are sixteenth. And if you look deeper you go well they they had. They really sucked the first three weeks of the season. But they've been solid. They have not been bad against quarterback lately. So why would we play James Against the team. That's been pretty solid against. Why would you play James? Why would we and the reason is because Marshon Lattimore who shut down pretty much everyone? He's He's played against as a shadow corner including he. Mike and Mike Evans has a hamstring issue. That is almost certainly going to make him miss this week. And if Marshon Lattimore is out I think Janus has a great game because you know that the saints are wanting to make amends for last last week and just torch the earth against Tampa Bay James will have to throw. And if he's got Mike Evans on one of their other. Two sucky cornerbacks Chris Godwin eight against them last time around. I think I think you know James is a great all right. I'M GONNA go with sending the car. Yes S. Derek Carr against the Cincinnati bengals and regardless of whether the Oakland Raiders are able to turn this into a blow out they will need Derek Carr to get them there. Cincinnati has given up top ten fantasy performances to the quarterback in four of their last. Five Games the raiders are at home home. They are rolling. He's been playing. Well believe it or not. He's been a top twelve sky two of the last three weeks. Here's what's fantastic. The Oakland Raiders have allowed twelve sacks on the year. That's the second best rate so I mean the League average is about twenty four has Cincinnati sacked. Anybody here say Cincinnati has the lowest total sacks in the League at at zero ten ten. And and so. It's those were trips. The quarterback for you know the the offensive lineman stepped on the quarterback. He fell down. We got more like this. This is a a great matchup for Derek Carr to just get it done and that includes i. I didn't make my start but Ladies Gentlemen Gentleman we've been very sad with the Walrus. Wait are you yes yes yes lugo. Joe was intense. There's again this past week. And we learned that he was open on every play every time Mike Y.. Games reviewed the film. Even he raped. Plays that result. Owner fifty yard touchdown touchdown but but Jarrett was open food. Yeah but when they do those plays I'm just I'm I look I am. He's writing a letter. No no I'm running I'm running the next Gen stats like in real time in my head. Ah Computer you have proof. And look the probability of those plays sure. They worked the probability of water. Catching it is ninety five percent now all right all right. Let's go running backs Mike O.. Nellie please be true. I am kind of taking a shot here. I believe map Redo will be out. I'm with Andy this. Just he's projected this one to two weeks even with his like half Wolverine Powers. We joke about it. He's he's going to miss the game. Yes yes he hasn't been ruled out but I I strongly believe map. Rita misses the game. Mahim moster he might just be sitting there on your waiver. Wire right now they get the rematch against Arizona. But this time San Francisco is at home. Coleman banged up. It was almost hurt in that Overtime he's got the three down skill set he can catch the ball Arizona's giving up the eighth. Most points against fantasy. Running backs moster always delivers when he is given the opportunity. I think he's got a huge opportunity. Here I agree with you. I I think he showed up with a bit of a limited designation. I'd ACA man you do need to keep your eyes peeled but I think it's a very like fab dollars weren't spent on regime most right but he he may be just as valuable as my start of the week. Brian Hill Brian Hill was the most added player this past week for fifty dollar man Dan. Yes for good reason Carolina's given up the most running back fantasy points over the last month last week like I said even with Freeman active for a portion portion of game getting thirty plus percent of snaps he had a very productive volume type of game. No Hooper Nossa knew he can get some passing game work so for me. He's a very confident. RB RB to play this week against Carolina. You just going to have to use Brian Hill and for me my start of the week is Joe Mixing a guy who had a great game last week. Thirty for one hundred and fourteen going. He's happy to be in the same. Well he's a fancy owners still don't know what to do with them. Because if you've had Nixon Nixon you've felt all of the starts that sucked and so you don't know if you can buy into this. But with the transition at quarterback they said Joe Mixing York Org they were down two scores in two and a half scored. And they're like we're just giving it to mix and over and over and over. That was their best chance to win. Should did we try to win. Just give it a Mexican My par- pardon me. Forty eight to ten was the score and they kicked field goal to get to forty eight to thirteen. I just want that to hit you. That's called lose by less. I mean they could barely less embarrassing. It is to to lose when you only have ten points. It's in the coaching meetings. Oh my goodness they saved face. Yes they re. I mean they went in and we're like we got thirteen eighteen. Oh Gosh that's almost two full touchdowns I just can't believe maybe we. Maybe we missed an extra point. You know maybe a game but the reality is three won't remember virchow makes an is the centerpiece of this putrid offense but against the raiders. They're they're not a tough match-up I think that mixing mixing can have a really solid game. And if you've got him on your roster I think you should be starting him this week all right by the way if you're curious about the breeder report I believe it came from Ian Rappaport. There's a second opinion he's going to pursue on his ankle and rapoport is the new frontier that he will miss a week or two. What goes back three to four? What if it comes back? You're fine nine right now. Jason's not willing I am not gonNa Village doesn't seem on the field that he is out because there's been so many times where he appears appears like he's going to Miss Practices missed the game and those in the back. It's not as often as it's been reported though feels does feel feel that way. All Right Mike. What do you got wide receiver? I talked about him earlier. But it's Terry maclaurin. Yes this is scary as they I would say but the match is so great. The they've been torch here and we talked about the jets and other giving up points. Here's the last three P- The quarterback that they have faced Gardner Minhsiu Ryan Fitzpatrick and Daniel Jones. These three guys lit up the New York jets. So that can at least wash away some of your Dwayne Haskins fear. Not all of it. It will be impossible to remove all that fear until you see Haskins actually do it but the jets fourth against fantasy wide receivers. It's at home. I believe in Terry McLaren's talents. I believe leave. That haskins has a good enough game. That you're happy. You started terry all right. I'M GONNA GO DJ more. He's on fire right now. Top twenty receiver and four four or five weeks. Here's this target Jason alluded to it earlier. Ten nine ten eleven. It's wonderful and like I said Vegas is not buying this. Atlanta Atlanta defenses rejuvenated got forty nine and a half point over under in this game at lane is given up the eighth most points to fancy wide receivers and you know what he's done those top twenty performances all of them with no touchdowns none so he's been putting up big weeks and he's due to get into the end zone and that would attorney good week into a great week so I think that's what you're going to get a great week from Dj. More for me I am going to Hollywood. I'm going to Baltimore because I'm going with Markey's Hollywood Brown Baltimore Rookie Sensation This is just so much fun to to make him. I started the week. Because he's the guy loved and college scouting bakers. Who is that guy and he's a huge? I mean you talked about Baker. Says we're where is that. Can I have him back He is really electric. This is a guy where you can end up with the wide receiver one on a week because he can go off for a couple of big bomb touchdowns and in this matchup that I talked about earlier where I want pieces in it. I expect them to hit the over. I think this is going to be a high scoring game against the Texans who four of the last five weeks have given up seven or better on weekly fancy given up to wide. Receivers says it's a plus matchup with a an electric player. I don't want to end up up with a twenty eight point thirty two point fantasy player on my bench. And you know I think that's his upside in in this matchup. All right tight end Mike. I'm going with Eric. E. Braun and this is the squeaky wheel has squeaked his way into my head. It's it's this is not the match up. I am chasing which is normally what we go. Look for for the Titans Star of the week but he had a closed-door meeting with his coach and that turned into who twelve targets. He flipped the tables. It's usually Jack Doyle as the guy who's getting the more snaps more targets and it turned into Eric E. Bron we're not expecting. Ty Hilton back this week. Pairs Campbell is still Jacksonville has good. DB's and cobre setback. I expect targets to be funneled once once again to Eric Brown. So I think he's in that range where he's he's above a streamer now and he's a a low end start every week all right. Look what I'm staring at the bottom of the barrel at tight end. I've decided I'm going to chase the touchdown trends in that. Means Cow Rudolph at the beginning of the week. It's the holiday. Season is the reds on reindeer. Do not feeling what are you singing. The Oh it's the holiday is really set. It's the holiday season it sounded like you were singing the grinch for a second. It was like what well he could end. Up in the grinch category. No doubt about it. Rudolph is touchdown dependent entirely. But when I started looking at yes I for could have a nice game right the weapons. They don't have a lot in the passing game last week. He scored with Brian Finley. But I'M GONNA put it on the arm of Kirk cousins over Ryan Finley this week from the start of the week. He's got four touchdowns in the last five weeks. You're going to get five targets. You've got a competent quarterback and kirk cousins and he's been top twelve tied in three or four weeks. So no you're not going to get yards but Denver's actually giving up five plus catches to the tight end position in each last four weeks so you could do a lot worse than Colorado not something you could say early in the year right For my tight end start of the week. I'm GonNa Jared Cook. I want a guy gotten opportunity for last week. Ten targets from drew brees six for seventy four the the they need a big rebounded. The Tampa Bay defence is as close to the Arizona cardinals goals as far as giving up big points. The tight end position. So I think it's just one of those things where you've got a high scoring team Great plus matchup and and last week. The targets were there for him. I expect as he's you know. He's new to the team this year. More integrated into the offense finally up over seventy percent snap counts last week cook a he is the guy I would look for this week. Off of waivers. If you remember their zone a game Tampa one drop from giving up a a forty something yard touchdown to Max Williams in that game as well. So they're very vulnerable to tie to the tight end position Jason. Moore's ironclad locked and loaded one hundred percent. Saint guaranteed boom boom kicker of the week. Oh love at first sight. The first time I saw her. I knew I had to have the Dallas kicker imprint mater. Sorry Brett at think he I think he called breath. Girl I did. I had to you Maher. We were almost going to do something like I'm going on a dance with her this Friday. I'm real excited and to go to the dance with my daughter says started. How do you tie that? How boys and they don't WanNa deal with Brent Maher sometimes your rhymes are also awkward? Offer worse. No that's okay Nice. Try I liked that. You you stuck to the the kicker you need not just the Rhine. Yeah and that's the real key Arthur Arthur bread MAR- We want thank. Our studio sponsor pristine auction a James Connor Sign Pittsburgh steelers logo football sixty one dollars. Forty two cents yesterday hey use our code ballers when YOU HEAD OVER TO PRISTINE AUCTION DOT COM browse amazing gifts Christmas time. The holiday season do so. So get yourself. Get yourself in amazing piece of SPORTS MEMORABILIA FROM PRISTINE AUCTION DOT COM. That's why I was confused because you you said don't do. This is not the word about doing the words I was playing the music. They give booklet football the night suv tomorrow. Goodbye for listening to another episode of the fantasy. 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Donkey Of The Day: Skip Bayless Shames Dak Prescott For Admitting Depression Issues

Donkey of the Day

11:47 min | 4 months ago

Donkey Of The Day: Skip Bayless Shames Dak Prescott For Admitting Depression Issues

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And I've been called a lot of my twenty three years but donkey the day is a new. Date for Friday September eleven goes to the infamous skip bayless. You remember scale who used to be on I take now he's on Fox sports with Shannon Sharpe. Now Skip bayless is a sports critic, not a sports analysts, not a sports pundit he the sports trick he may say otherwise, but all I do is hear him critique of the players not a lot of analysts talk at all just a lot of critique which is fine. I, love a great critic some which stay on one myself but like most critics eventually, they say something that pisses people. It's a thin line between critiquing and being offensive and skip bayless is a habitual lines separate. Okay. Goes over that line quite often and he overstepped in line yesterday when he had an opinion about Dallas Cowboy, quarterback that Prescott, discussing his struggles with depression and anxiety. Let's hey what the good brother Dak Prescott had to say all throughout this this quarantine in this off season I started experiencing emotions. I've never felt before anxiety for the main one, and then honestly a couple of days before my brother passed I would say I started experiencing depression then know necessarily what I was going through to say the least. In hadn't been sleeping at all but for one reason, one night asleep the best. Missing probably ten plus costs from from Tad and give him my dad enough time to come bedroom and tell me what had happened and so I, woke up probably the best night's sleep I've ever had and two thousand and twenty for the from the worst news as much as you want to ask why as much as this I mean I know my brother and as we said, he had a lot of burdens on him. He had a lot of. Tough things, and my sense of saying that is I showed me of how vulnerable we have to be as humans how open we have to be because our adversely our struggles, what we go through as always going to be too much for ourselves and maybe too much for even one or two people but never never too much for community you're never too much for four people in the family that you love. Now anybody who listens to the breakfast. Club for years I am Die Hard Dallas Cowboys Fan I can't wait to watch his plate and rams this Sunday night. But if you listen to the breakfast club are my brilliant hideous podcast and you also know I've talked about my struggles with anxiety and depression. In fact, I wrote a whole book about it called shook one anxiety playing tricks on meet a at book is actually more of a journal that I was keeping wild going therapy share. A lot of my lifelong struggles that's not a book plug of by the ways to let you know that I've dealt with anxiety and depression. So long I had documented. Okay. I'll go to therapy once a week usually third there Friday three I have a sacred purpose coach a salute Yadi out there walk around my yard barefoot hug trees I do breathing exercises I got the COM APP I got CBD. Okay. I got I got gyms disowns I. My crystals full moon. Right. Assisted Debbie Brown Karma Bliss the moral of the story is do whatever I got to do is stay mentally healthy out here period. Okay. I totally understand how that feels. I had I had two friends commit suicide in June weeks apart. Rest in Peace Jasmine waters, recipes, moments, Shaquille Cardi from Anguilla, and it didn't hit me until August. Okay. And when I said I had to. Dog Ass weeks in August Lord have mercy if I had been doing to work on myself all these years to know what that was and why it was and more importantly how to deal with it. No. Telling our that would have turned out. So when I say, I bus stand. What Dak Prescott says he's he was going through I totally over stand with that brother was going through. Okay. But one person who didn't have any sympathy for Dacca's going through and didn't overstay seem to understand would that was going to was Fox sports skip bayless. Okay. He had this to say in regard the Dak Prescott, revealing his struggles with his mental health. Let's listen I'm going to ask our audience feel free to go ahead and condemn me if you choose as cold-blooded and insensitive on this issue, I have deep compassion for clinical depression. But when it comes to the quarterback of an NFL team, it's the ultimate leadership position in sports. Am I right about that? You are commanding an entire franchise. What's the roster? Fifty three still three, but they got like fifteen. Guys but but your commanding a lot of young men. In some older men in they're all looking to you to be there CEO to be in charge of the football team because of all that I don't have sympathy for him going public with I got depressed I suffered depression early in Cova to the point that I couldn't even go workout skip bayless. Let me be the first to tell you shut the F. up forever. Do you know that yesterday was National Suicide Prevention Day literally yesterday. I saw shefty Dodd Post that you know when it was literally was yesterday National Suicide Prevention Day. When you made those comments, it was on national suicide prevention how the universe works the universe wants us to have this discussion. Okay. people like you skip you 'cause folks who may be dealing with depression and anxiety. It killed himself seriously rhetoric like that causes people to killed himself reason I talk about. My mental health struggles. The Way I do is because one speaking about it in the form of therapy for me and it helps me feel better about myself and two I want other people especially black people like me to know that they're not alone. So when someone like Dak Prescott, who millions of kids look up to because he's the black starting quarterback for the greatest football franchise of all time the Dallas cowboys. Nobody can dispute that during a topic like this when that brother decides to be vulnerable and let everyone know what he's going through. That gives the rest of the village scrimp it might make someone on the ledge. Say Oh Dag. Deals and anxiety oh DAK deals with depression. Oh any what to go get treatment for it oh, he went to a therapist maybe I should do that too. But then here comes folks like skip bayless with the lame ass age old take that having mental health issues is a sign of weakness by the way. That's one of those patriarchal way of thinking that has to be deconstructed like men are taught to apologize for their weakness and women are taught to apologize for their scrimp. Okay F. All right when I feel like crying I'm going. To cry and tear the signs of weakness, tear the signs that you've been strong too long, and maybe it's time to talk to somebody when Dak Prescott says because he put out a statement on the Dallas Cowboys website he responded to what gives said and he said being a leader is that Prescott I love these words he said being a leader is about being genuine and being real. If I wouldn't have talked about those things to the people I did I wouldn't have realized my friends and a lot more people go throw them. The also says I don't care how big a person you are. If you are not mentally healthy and you are not thinking the right way, then you are not going to be able to lead people to write weight dropping ACLU's bonds Dak Prescott. Every single word he uttered was true. Okay. Dagmar brother Notre. Awards have ever been spoken. You are true leader. You know you're a true leader because great leaders don't tell you what the do. They show you how is done and that's what you doing right now by sharing your anxiety and depression with the world two things, I want you to take from this donkey today. Okay. Number one is a prime example of why you have to be careful who you share your weaknesses with because some people can't wait for the opportunity to use them against you. Okay and number two. Only way we will eradicate the stigma around mental health in the black community. To share our stories, we have to share our weaknesses and our difficulties because that can be more nourishing to others than sharing our qualities and successes. Please let Remy Ma give skip bayless, the biggest he he. He Ha you stupid. Dumb. All right on disrespect mark quarterback. Okay. 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Brews & The 'Boys: Cowboys Saved Their Season In Philadelphia

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Brews & The 'Boys: Cowboys Saved Their Season In Philadelphia

"Well to another edition of the bruise the boys podcast produced by Hsi-wei median brought to you by way of blogging the boys Espy nation and the box media podcast network. We all your friendly neighborhood show where we enjoy cold beverages and talking about America's team Dallas Cowboys every week. We'll be giving you an in depth, look and everything the Cowboys are doing what we can expect the Cowboys. My name is Michael Sizemore, I've been following the writing about the for many years and. Tube long in the boys. You may follow me on Twitter. Atmos- is more follow the podcasts at Bruges in the boys. And at blogging the boys with me as always he's the man of the hour to sweet to be sour, folks. My colleague at blogging the boys in the Walter Matthau to my Jack women, Mr. Tom rile. Yes. You can't follow him on Twitter at Tom rile BTV. The Cowboys are coming off a victory. It's victory Monday here. The Cowboys beat the eagles last night. They got their first road win, Tom, are you? Okay. Because I hear shuffling papers for you. All right. Yeah. Cool. Could you cut out for just a second? Oh, well, well, we're back. We're back. We're back victory Monday. We haven't had one of these in a while. So it's a little wonky. But the Cowboys get the win over the Philadelphia Eagles twenty seven to twenty in Philadelphia Jason geared is now six two at the link, and we're gonna we're gonna break this game down a little bit. But we're also just going to talk about the Cowboys in general. This was the first road victory for the Cowboys this year, and you know, it all it started kind of like a different energy in pre game, Tom, you know, when when they started apparently, you know, the Cowboys were trying to the DB's we're trying to practice on the side of a field that they usually always practice on. And and the eagles wanted him to move and they decided not to move and then Chris Rashard took matters into his own hands and decided to get into. Yup. With the eagles. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was just a different game. I think almost all expected, and you just want at time to say, I'm so confused because is this the real Cowboys are not, you know, there's a part of you that wants to say this is what we've been waiting for. This is what we thought they add, especially Amari Cooper added in and solve that problem. But you don't know can you trust everything I feel better about the players that I do about the coaching staff. Scotland hand. You know, it's really whether they can keep utilizing their tools because everything seemed to work so much better, especially after certain point Mogamed could see things happening with the offense. So I I want to talk about that just because you have a game like last night. And I wanna say that I think that you know last night, obviously was the Cowboys. I would say right now if anything happens after this game if the Cowboys are to go on a run or something this would be their statement win. And the reason it's a statement win is because it's not like, you know, the eagles are a great team. They reformed four coming in the Cowboys, you know, vocabulary three and five. But but it's because the eagles they're the defending Super Bowl champions. You're at their house. They can't their their fans are bringing coffins to the game. They're ready to just bury the Cowboys. They wanna bury the season and you have before the game all day Sunday. Everyone's talking about Lincoln. Lincoln Riley and other other coaching opportunities that could arise for the Cowboys to go. If they wanted to go a different route coaching in. Everyone's just after that Monday night game where you lose to the titans. Everyone's just down on everything. And then the titans go and beat the New England Patriots. Arguably the best team over the last fifteen twenty years, so things are just different here. And I feel like the Cowboys I feel like the Cowboys looked great in this win. And they did some things towards the end of the game that they haven't done before. Because typically in their their road games. Tom the Cowboys play their worst football. And so when they started out this game, you know, you saw some moments where you were just like this Scotland a hand, what are you doing in this situation? And one of them was after the Cowboys had come to the in the second half of the game actually was actually when the first call was a bootleg that everyone saw coming almost got your quarterback killed. Yes. That that was that one was scary. That's a hit that he he doesn't need to be taking its. But it's kind of interesting because there were a lot of plays in this game that if they had gone ripe for the Cowboys. It could have changed the outcome. Yeah. And yet there were plays that went very wrong that they overcame that being one of them. You know, the other being the thirteen yard sack that that took when he really should have gotten rid of the ball. But you know, going into the game there were so many things that are not didn't seem like they were winding up. Well for the Cowboys, you know, coming off the loss to the titans and everything, you know, been they come in. And now you're out. You're starting yet. You're starting left guards out. So and so they come in with exhibitor saw be will feel. Yeah. Yeah. Have never said his name before. And he comes in. And they talk a lot about how he's in there. And how he's facing this fearsome eagles pass rush at all this, and they never mentioned his name again. And you're an offensive lineman. That is about the best thing you can have happened. Well, sue, a feeler said after the game that know took him. It took him probably to the second or third drive with the Cowboys to start understanding how this line to move and also understanding how Fletcher Cox liked to penetrate. And once he got that down. He felt like there were ways that he could do not necessarily that he's going to neutralize him every single time. But ways that he could take him off his normal route of trying to get to the quarterback and making him confused because you can you can say that we never heard sufi lows name. But we also never heard Fletcher. Cox name. Yeah. And that was great at they even had Adam Redman come in for thirteen plays while Zach Marcus scaring us to death giving. His knee checked out. Yeah. I mean, I think that need thing would sack Martin that. It's probably gonna be into the he's gonna think about surgery at the end of the year. Yeah. I just hope he can make it through. But still even while he was out. It wasn't really a problem. I didn't make make reference to this. But Tom, you know, how when tyrant Crawford gets hurt and practice or something. He's always like he screamed screams, really louder. He says curse word. You know, any makes you think that his season's over and then he's able to come back. We'll Zack Martin does something similar, but it's more of just like grimacing like you think your whole season is completely over with him right there. And then he just takes everything up and comes back out. And just so scared know, but we have to have to look at this the whole what they did. And I mean current Smith had I think is best game of the. Yeah. Certainly did all the Gallup screen pass of that. That really started things rolling the Cowboys. He got two blocks in hop that at. And he was just shutting people down and you have to look at the change. They made when they showed Paul Alexander the door and gave Marc Colombo the of it's of line coaching job and brought in Hudson. How to serve as a mentor assistant, consultive, whatever you wanna call him. You've got to put something on that. And that was another very important thing that I came across while working on my staff article. Everybody talked about the eagles getting zero flagstone at them. Yes. Yeah. But this way of been the first game all year that the Dallas offense of wine had no flags. Yeah. That's true. Because I mean, the one that they called on a on a punt on that they called on Lyell Collins was actually on a tight end. So. Yeah. That was that might have been. Yeah. It was I went looked at him. We had you had Armstrong picked up one. Jeff swing picked up that one because in the stat sheet at NFL of the NFL website. They got at credit, right? Noah Brown picked up a couple. And then there was thank another infraction on a punt. And I can't remember if that one up but nothing on the offensive line young. None of those big Dr killers that we've seen just crippling up. So just the game the way it started, Tom. You know, you see like the eagles, you know, three plays in a punt Cowboys three in a punt, Fiat. And that's kind of you know, that happens a lot in games because teens are trying to get a understanding of what they're going up against here. But then the the next play the very next drive for the eagles. Carson Wentz throws it right into the belly of late and Vander issue had an incredible game. And we'll get to him later. Well, yeah. But when the Cowboys take the ball, you know, you start to see they get Amari Cooper. Going already with thirteen thirteen yard gains. And they're and they're doing lots of stuff there. And that this is the drive that's Martin gets injured on in the first. But after Zach Martin leaves, you know, the Cowboys they picked up a big third and seven with Cooper. But then they just get down there. And they kick a field goal in. Brett Maher make barely makes it. Twenty five yard field goal. And you're saying to yourself this the same Cowboys offense. We're always seeing they can't capitalize on these turnovers at they're getting and this is crucial in games like this because the Philly crowd can get riled up for anything and this game. You know, was kind of a dredging like slow game for most of the first-half until until you get down. The the eagles had put three points on the board. They got the Cowboys were up six to three they had to feel the eagles won. But they gave the Cowboys the ball back with a two minute warning. Because the Cowboys have deferred like I said earlier, and and so the Cowboys that drive that they put together at the end to get and go down to get the touchdown. You talked about the screen. I think came on that the twentieth screen that he had that as an flip the game yet. And don't forget that Doug Peterson inadvertently helped the Cowboys out by calling two time outs because he was playing on getting the ball back. With you know, fifty seconds or something and trying to go down at least get a score. Instead he made it easy for the Cowboys to have time to do it. And after the sack would they got that twenty five yard screen pass completion to convert the third and fifteen the Gallup it was like something changed for Dax. Beginning, you know, he missed Zeke Elliot on that last drive. We were talking about where they kicked a field goal debt. That miss was just you can't have those. You can't miss Zeke Elliott like that. That would have been a touchdown. He miscall Beasley two on one earlier in the game too. But on this one he throws a dime to Colby's leap. Yeah. And then throws another past Allen Hearns to set up set them up on the one yard line. And then that was a very heavy play to go down lot. Everybody up gets it. Take the snap and get it across the goal line. While the eagles, I think weren't quite settled into to defend against it. It was a Matthew Stafford from years from a few years ago, and he did that to the Cowboys. He's just Dak Prescott gets all the way down the field. And just scores. The touchdown for the Cowboys go up thirteen to three at the half. And you know. With so many missed opportunities in the first half. You're still kind of wondering what you're going to get with this Cowboys offense, but you have to feel a little bit better. Because this is the eagles defense most most of us most of us analyst out there were picking the eagles to be able to cruise to victory here because one the Cowboys hadn't won any away games. But also that eagles have what the Cowboys can't seem to get past which is those penetrating defenders in the middle. But as we told you they kind of rendered Fletcher Cox to where he didn't really do much for most of this game. I he didn't really, you know, he he probably showed up in the stat line little bit. But the Cowboys were kind of doing their best to get things going on the edges and keep it keep the game away from him. Yeah. And and that was another thing. It's just. And you don't you wish you could find out exactly where the impetus came from? And who is making what decision run this? But they really weren't calling plays that were going right for the defense expected them to they were they were zigging when the the the eagles thought they were going to say, which I thought was great. You know in the second half. It took them a couple of dries. But once the eagles tied it up then Dak with two seventy five yard touchdown, scoring drives to Popol. But once seventy five yard when he ended the half with. But we can't miss what happened at the start of the second half the Cowboys since they deferred. They get the ball back and they do deck. It's that nasty sector. We talked about about Michael Bennett just coming off. And just blasts him. They can't get anything really going after that. And they punt the ball at their own twenty one the eagles go and get their second field goal making it only a seven point game. But then, you know, the Cowboys go out there, and they get all the way they get all the way down to the Philadelphia twenty three. And then they have to kick a field goal only. And he misses it. Brent Maher misses the forty two yard field goal. And so now, you're just like that a momentum killer, and you just. Shifted the momentum to the eagles, which is something. You don't want to do. Because that's when the eagles came roaring right back and scored on touchdown scored on a touchdown from Carson Wentz to Kurtz. And you're saying, okay. See this is what we've seen before. This kind of reminded you of the Cowboys last year when they were up at the at half, nine two seven or whatever. And then the second half came in. And then Winston them just just battered. Yeah. But now we're getting to those touchdown that you were talking about the county did. And it's a key point. Also that that's a point were a lot where the Cowboys early and the season you almost felt them crumble. Yeah. But this game they did crumble. They just reached down a little bit deeper, and you know, everything started to come together on offense. Even while the defense was having a little trouble stopping them. Which is how they got the two touchdowns to come back. And and get to the twenty twenty tie. Yeah. And you know, you see like what I liked about that Tom is that Dak and this offense. It's almost like that Prescott was there's something adak has a lot of. And that set he is got a lot of will. He he will he he can get anyone to run through a brick wall form just because of who he is as a person and for him to come out there. And you know, the Cowboys had just missed a field goal. And now here we go eagles tied up thirteen thirteen for him to come out there with only two minutes left in the third quarter. And just I mean, he just took him right down the field him in Zeke Elliott kind of took over which is where you get to because in the third quarter. The Cowboys did so much in that first half. I think Dak like almost had two hundred yards in the first half alone, a passing they set so much up with the past Maury Cooper you starting to see how that affects a defense Ilia in the second half because they're playing. A little bit more. They're playing off because they know their second. The eagles secondary is garbage right now. And so they're day. Just couldn't they couldn't stop that. Once once that got going once deck said, listen, I'm gonna will team to what we're gonna will team down the field and get a score Zeke Elliott was like, okay. Okay. That's fine. Let's do this. Let's do this together. They did what they always do or what we've known for them to do. And that's just day started to just beat up on them. And you know, you talk about that first part of this drive this seventy five yard drive or whatever that they had for touchdown was like five minute long nine play. It was like half the place just Russia's. And then what does that do? Then everyone is thinking they're going to run in boom hits Kobe's -ly. Beasley hits Elliott up the middle. And then Zeke Elliott buying then debt connects on the same Passi missed in the first half to Kelly at Zeke takes it in for the touchdown. And we're like game on. Yeah. Was just you're right. It was a case of for. You can't say the past setup run of the one set of the past they work together, which was how Dallas to operate. Yeah. A lot of a lot of teams in the NFL right now, the run it is just kind of afterthought and they're doing good if they can get seventy five or eighty yards on the ground. But for the Cowboys, they require that when you start focusing stuffing one, they hit you with the other. We're gonna take a quick break. And then we come back. We're going to break down the rest of the game. And then we're just going to talk about the Cowboys in general. And what what we what we need to see from them to forward of this is the voice podcast. We write back. And we are back on the bruise and the boys podcast. We're talking about the Cowboys twenty seven to twenty win over the Philadelphia Eagles. It's the first road victory for the Cowboys this season they are for in five. They are now by beating the eagles. Eagles are now four and five as well. It's also the eagles third consecutive loss at home. And the Cowboys are now second, you know, they have the tiebreaker over Philadelphia in the NFC east, and they are just what is it two or three games back of Washington thing is to get gas back of Washington. So when you look around the NFC, and you say like, okay, the the Cowboys are staying in it because the game teams like the eagles and teams like the Redskins. And and you know, the giants are just way down in the dumpster fire that they are. But they can't they can't put the Cowboys out of it. So that's my couch, you're sticking around. And this could be. Hopefully, one of those statement wins it will get into here in a minute. But let's just finish out the game here. You know, the the eagles tied up the Cowboys with a seventy four yard drive of their own making it twenty to twenty. And then I think that the next Cowboys touchdown drive was the next sequences of drives for both the Cowboys and eagles was some of the best football. I've seen from this auto fence all year Dalton Schultz. It was almost about getting every single person involved on offense for Dak and game. Because Dak said Dacic gotten guys involved earlier in the game. But now don't Scholtz he got himself involved with a seventeen yard or on on a drive that they're driving in and Cooper with a huge twenty four yard gain that set the Cowboys up, and and then as they get right down there. You know, Zeke Elliott just says let me just take it in myself Elliot had a huge day. The biggest day running back has had against this eagles defense. He just you know, that was another four minute drive that you're talking. So now when the eagles get the ball act. There's only two minutes left in the game. And and just a little over two minutes left in the game. And then they go to this morning and that sequence because now we got flip to this defense. Yeah. The sequence that the Cowboys had on defense in this game was just so huge. If you down at this time in the game. Yeah. What they did. And that was that was right around, but two minute warning the sequence that you're talking about at the defense had softened up and that was cut how the eagle got back in. And it was like Wentz found is footing. Started hitting receivers and. Pretty good. There were several incompletions that were due to pressure. But he started getting out. They started holding them off. And I think the Dallas defensive backs weren't playing quite as well in the second half. They were in the first because exam your woods should obey woozy a combined for five pass breakups in the first half. That she do that. On site. Wow. He looks like he was going to be a touchdown all day. And at the last second here comes some blue and silver out of the bottom of your screen any it's up there and knocks the ball away from Sean Jeffrey perfect hand placements blind. He wasn't doing it. It was just putting his hand. But tween Jeffries has in the ball and their defense at set them up several times eight and set out on special teams with Jeff heath rushing up the middle on a big night and giving the Cowboys another set of downs because they were saying look we have given you so much this season stop wasting our efforts. And that's why it's so big that the Cowboys didn't waste those efforts in the second half. Because you talk about that late in Vander. I mean, how smart do they look for taking him in the first round. I, you know. You've got to consider him for defensive rookie of the year. Even if there's somebody that's gonna take somebody else might get it because they're flagged or something. I don't really picks up a few more interceptions. And and they might start taking notice. But yeah, that was the play and. Is so our Roddick that he was drafted in case, Sean Lee got hurt and as an eventual place, the heart Lee, and he goes out, and basically duplicate the Sean leap play from several years ago that also led to a win, and it was just incredible. But you know, it was they had third into and they're driving there on the Dallas. They're right there and. Bandari to blockers in gets to Clemett and tackled him for five yard lost. It was just beautiful and an incredible play. And then on fourth and seven Carson Wentz steps back and he's gonna hit Erz right at the Dallas twenty for six of the seven yards that they need and Jeff heath just comes flying out of nowhere and keeps him from being able to to move the ball forward to get the first damp down gain. So he keeps him behind which then leads to there's a minute and seventeen seconds left. And you're saying well, the eagles the eagles just lost on a fourth and seven here. But the Cowboys they didn't their offense. Couldn't you knew the eagles was we're gonna come out and the Cowboys were just trying to get them to use their time outs. Yeah. And they did. But you knew that the eagles defense was going to come out and not allow anything, and that's pretty much. What they did. There were several negative plays in a row, but they can't really trying to do much. But. You get them to use their time out. So on that last that lasts secrets at eagles. Got the ball back with forty seconds left. And you know, went fine Sacher it's for thirteen yards. He's five all he and we've seen this to against the Texans sitting here, we're thinking gosh, she's just going to go earth's hurts. And that's exactly what he tried to. Do. He incomplete pass over the middle to Nelson aga- Lor who had a big fifty one yarder earlier that could have been questioned if he actually got possession of that. But wins goes right to urge again for another fourteen. And he goes to when he goes to earth again for the nine yards Erz tries to lateral to none other than golden Tate. Yeah. This is the first time we're really mentioning his name because he did back shit in this. And he laterals it to golden Tate for at the Dallas nine for no gain. Jeff heat stops them game over and the eagles fans are just booing. Boo. Fans off our brewing their team off. Field. Yeah. And it was it was a case of where I think cowboy the will prevent in God away with it. Usually you get bit doing that. But just the numbers worked out with, you know, sixty FAA it was sixty eight yards to go and forty seconds. They just didn't have enough time with no timeouts. So it you know, the Cowboys. It was a case of where if you were going to point the Cowboys getting too conservative some point. I think that last little sequence after they stopped him on the fourth down the Cowboys got very conservative. But in this case it worked. So it was the right decision. You know, if it has you're wrong decision. You're talking about Zeki Elliot before that last sequence. He was averaging ten yards per carry and was well over one hundred fifty are one hundred fifty yards. Yeah. He ended the day with one fifty one. But that and any was only averaging eight yards. But a lot of that came from that last sequence. Yeah. So yeah, Dak Dak had a great day. You know, he had two hundred seventy yards passing. He had. He was I had a touchdown. He did get a Cup that he did take four sacks, which is unfortunate. But he did have one of two point eight passer rating was he was better than Carson Wentz. Because Carson Wentz might have had a three hundred sixty yard day. But it was such an empty day with the city his and everything else that you would have to consider because the Cowboys just kind of battered their eagle fence who would have thought if the eagles both of these teams coming into this game the Cowboys and eagles have struggled on offense. Who would have thought that it would be the eagles defense to break. Yeah. And you can say that they certainly did because it was Zeke you'll Elliott just busting loose. He had several long runs. Yeah. The ball nineteen times. Yeah. He had a he had the two longest plays of the day. A thirty five yard run. The the that was the one where he fumbled at the end. But it just went harmlessly out of bounds. And then the thirty two yard runway the hurdle of the defender that that's going to be on replays for a long time things. I wanted to mention before we get into a conversation about the Cowboys in general is late Vandross. You know, we talked about it late Vandereycken. It's like he is the second coming of Sean Lee, but just a healthier guy because he had thirteen solo tackles Nali that. But the guy is seeing the field the way lease all he is in -ticipant in planes. At the end of the game. Because he said, Sean Lee is the one that got him is kind of molding him. Yeah. The weird thing is that he only played eleven man football since he got into college. Yeah. It's crazy. After at the end of the game. They asked him about the interception. And he said, well, yeah, it's my first interception. But it's also like the second one I've ever had. So it's pretty big. That is great just great. And you know, Jeff heat was second on the team with eight tackles of his own solo tackle soap out in the Cowboys were able to get five tackles for loss. They got two sacks. They were getting to Carson Wentz. And you can tell winces just not he's not fully confident in his ability to make plays outside the pocket. Just yet. He'll get there. And soon as he gets a little bit healthier. So Tom what does this mean about the Dallas Cowboys because every single time where we call this the best win that they've had all season. But that's just because we've seen the other teams that they win the giants one in seven, you know, the Jaguars have completely fallen apart too. And the Detroit Lions aren't good either. So this has to be there statement win. But it depends on what they're going to do after that. Yeah. And that's that. He did. I mention I was. That's where that's where it comes in. Here is is did they really get the issues with the play calling in the offensive game planning fall that. And that's where I wish we had some idea what the conversations were since the since that Monday night lost the tights. You know, we heard some things yesterday about how they had it necessarily. They haven't made a move that plague Haller yet, but they definitely have made some lateral moves like I should say. Like what I've heard is that Jason Garrett had a look has taken a little bit more of the aggression last night in some of those fourth and one calls, and they even went one two in a long two. Yeah. And got it. They that was chasing Garrett. The decided look this is our season we have to win. We don't have time to be sitting here wondering if we're going to be aggressive, not if we're not going to be aggressive. We're not gonna win and we're not going to save our jobs. Yeah. My understanding is Garrett is always made the call to go when they go down. But my question is how much did eat restrict lend a hand in certain place. Or did he tell him you got to insert this into it? We don't know because you know, you've watched what hap-. And as I said you were wondering where was this all season, Saul route concepts that that work is to that? Listen, four guys out and have them all Hoke at the first down line. Where all of the secondary is waiting to stop them. We were so confused on is because this game late. They should not have been able to do this against like this type of this game that they called it almost seemed like, yeah, they had some struggles to begin with that happens in every game. But the way the second half they called as bad as perfect as you could. Yeah. And that's that's why drives you crazy is why? Poor hand. And why did it take getting backed up against the three and five wall for them to break out and start doing some of the things that they were doing two years ago and doing the well, yeah, that's where I you know, who gets credit who gets the blame. And did this save anybody's job? Will I think it helped Jason ear it? But I don't know how much it helps. Scotland ahead because I don't know how much are they had to apply is feet the to do this. And as he think is the cases already been built at the problems. They had to this point a lie on him because they gave him everything he wanted coming into the season. I'm never going to take Jason Garrett out of that quesion though, because he has put them in that situation to give Scotland a hand this much credit this much control, and it is one of his mentors. But the reason I think Jason Garrett had much more to do with this game is because the timing of what they did and win. They did it just seem so unlimit hand it. Yes. Seems so not like him. It seemed more like what I remember from seeing from Jason GARRETT'S Garrett. His always wanted a power like a powerful rushing unit. He's always wanted to be able to run the ball. At will on people. But the, but Linda hand seems to just run into a brick wall. Like Lynn Eoghan always tries to just run right up the middle against some of the best defense in the league. And they just laugh at him. And the way that the Cowboys kind of set this game. Is it almost seemed like for me? I think that the Cowboys set this game by getting Amari Cooper and those guys involved early. So the eagles to respect the receivers on this football team. Yeah. They were able to do what they wanted with Elliott. Because at that point in time, they are already got there already tiring out this this eagles defense. And then once Elliott hit you for one or two big runs already in the first half. You're toast in the second half. Yeah. It'd be be other factor that we don't really know is what's really going on Jerry Jones's head and what rolled the play in all of this the whole way. It's that is those other those that make all of our speculation about who should get fired should really pointless because the dynamic within the team which toy described as a lot of dysfunction all revolves around Jerry Jones in the fact that he still has his finger on everything that they do, you know, we know that Stephen Jones is is taking care of contract stuff and cap management. But it seems fairly clear for what we've been hearing the past few weeks that Jerry Jones is really kind of dictating how the staff is constructed. Probably a lot more patient care wishes. He would. You know, that's hands. There is because Jerry Jones asks Jason to go get himself a play collar. So he went and got somebody that he trusted. You look at all of what Scotland Eoghan has done in his career with the Cowboys. If you look if you look back at what Jason Garrett had did with the Cowboys as the play caller. Scotland's not really better than him. No. And that's is going to be in new see how this plays out because you know, the Cowboys go on a running actually managed to storm the way back into the playoffs. Admit even willa game. Maybe what do I don't think? He can fire your coach then. Yeah, you can't fire the head coach. And the really wanna change out the coordinator, which I think still think there's an argument that they should. But now became live ahead apparently as clinging onto that job with you know, everything he can so well because is at in his career it would take a little bit longer for him to probably find another job in the NFL, especially how bad his last Cup. This year has been for him at times. Yeah. Yeah. And I really feel that if this team got, you know, waxed clean, and they went and found a new coach, I think Jason Garib wouldn't have a problem finding playcalling job or an offensive coordinator job. Yeah. I think somebody would pick up a pretty quick. And get a really good reputation around the NFL anyway. And I think he would might even get a shot at the head coaching job somewhere else because he might say, look if you don't have Jerry Jones over your shoulder. I think you could do a better job. That's what it comes down to those. It comes down to I wrote on this weekend before the game. I said I didn't really think the Cowboys were going to win this game. But I said this is the type of game that Jason Garrett squad win. Yeah. It is. It is they go into with their backs against the wall. Everything you know, looking them in the face and these players went out there and kudos to Dak Prescott. Kudos to. Zeke Elliott in Sean, Sean Lee late in Vander, Sean Lee, light, I should say Jalen Smith in an exhibitor woods because they went out there and they play to save their coach's job. Yeah. They I think they did a a really great job of doing it. You know, I did not expect formats, I I was really I was really thinking a little give up was going to sneak into the and there was zero of that. Well, the Cowboys part our buddy RJ said that I know the game was close. He said, I know the game was close it was twenty seven to twenty. But it just felt like in that second half. He had been reading Philadelphia Eagles Twitter in Benjamin soli friend of ours. At Espy nation had said, I don't care what the eagles do the one thing. They can't do is give the Cowboys the ball back because they're going to score each in every time. So, and that's something that we haven't been able to really say much this year to sit to have other. Teams see that this offense can very much still score on one of the better defenses. That's struggling the secondary. But up front they're one of the better defenses in the league that this. That's why this game to me. Is there statement win? But what statement is it going to be because if now you walk in in have a letdown this next week. Then then you're just right back to where you were before. So at the side of the burning Atlanta, Atlanta, it Leah. It big game. If you if you really want to convince me the Dak has exercised his demons like I said last last week this game is huge for him. Oh, yeah. Because this is that was the game that seemed to break him last year. And it creates the game that since him if they win that that game it with Lantis score. You know, I know it land has been struggling, but they score thirty points and four of their five games at home. If you can beat that team at Atlanta exercise, the demons acute had you might be able to go on a run, and you might make convinces you'd might convince guys like Tom Knight. Who really think that this team has what it takes to do it? All right, Tom. You got anything else? You wanna leave with the with the folks before we get out of here. 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The Ocho: Dak, Zeke, & Amari contract talk with Joel Corry of CBS Sports

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The Ocho: Dak, Zeke, & Amari contract talk with Joel Corry of CBS Sports

"Nona. What up world, welcome to another episode of the Ocho presented you in partnership with Espy nations blogging, the boys dot com, Arjo me, of course, from in from right here as you're humble, host on the Ocho happy Thursday, the third day it is Thursday may sixteenth two thousand nineteen busy week really in the world. The survivor season finale was Wednesday night. I was not pleased by if you wanna talk survivor, certainly I'm always down for that. And the Cowboys Dallas Cowboys got a lot going on. Oh, and the PJ championships going on. Again. Really busy weekend. Oh, not dimension. We got the series finale of game of thrones. On sunday. Good times. It's a busy. Busy busy time. I mentioned earlier this week, I will be in Florida next week for my honeymoon. So we'll see what the status of the podcast is for then it'll be a weird week just ahead of time. But we'll be back after that. So appreciate that. If you have any suggestions on the Delray Beach area in terms of things to do certainly would appreciate that. But back to the Cowboys Wednesday night, they had their annual reliant homerun derby, which is always fun to see them hanging out and doing a little homerun derby, etc. I was a chance for the Cowboys to me with the local media. We heard that Prescott say that he wanted to be a cowboy forever. We heard Zeke kind of bad away contract talks. And there's a lot of talk and murmuring about Travis Frederick coming back, which is very exciting. So. Lots in the air, lots going on and on the subject of contracts, something really fascinating came out on Wednesday, CBS sports. Joel Corey, former sports agent who is a master of all things when it comes to the NFL salary-cap, Joel had an article where he detailed sort of the financial layout of Dak Prescott as eagle Elliott, Amari Cooper, and some insular airy players, obviously for the Cowboys as well. And Joe laid out of the deals, you can expect for them to get, and how that would impact the salary cap etcetera in two thousand twenty and beyond. And how it was possible to get all three done. And it was so masterful, that we decided you know what? Let's just get Joel on here. Let's let's talk to Joe himself. Let's see what he has to say because it's going to be very interesting. Very fascinating. See how the Cowboys handle all this. Let's hear from one of the professionals who knows what this is like, and who can into this correctly. So we said, hey, Joel how come on the podcast and thanks to Joel? He did Joe Corey is. Is our special guests, this Thursday, talking offerings contracts, and it comes to Dak Amari Z. And like I said a few other Cowboys as well that have their pay days on the horizon. So with that being said, let's let's stop dilly dallying. Let's get to him. Joel Corey, I've CBS sports joins us next right here. With us now is one of the smartest people in the universe. In my steamed Joel Corey, former sports agent he is an expert on all things contracts. And I felt salary cap, basically where all of the big bucks, go on Twitter at Horry. Joel. He mixes it up to keep on your toes. Joel happy Thursday morning, tea. Oh, good morning. How you doing this morning? I'm doing very well. I know that, you know, I'm a lot smarter today because I read, what you wrote on Wednesday, CBS, sports, and it's you can check out all our jobs work, obviously, you always make the rounds when it comes to sharing your wealth of knowledge, and, and this was a doozy that you've put out concerning the Dallas Cowboys. Stephen talked about how he was often running with Dak in Amari's extensions. Oh, I guess it's time to write about Cowboys triplets again. So here we are. So I wanna start with when it comes to the triplets of them. I wanna start with Zeke Dakyns Zeke Annamaria were both at the reliant homerun derby, that do every year on Wednesday night and they just both kinda played the game. So, yeah, we're not worried about contracts of the three Zeke is the only one who's not in a contract. You're currently but of the three Zeke can really make a claim to being the pulse of the team. Unlike either of the other two Zeke did have is fifth year option picked up and you detail all of this, all of the, the numbers and everything in your article. But so he's on the books for nine million dollars. Approximately. Thanks, that if you're option and you mentioned that Todd Gurley dealers kind of the benchmark for him. Is of the three ezek through the conventional wisdom of current day football is he the lowest priority, or I mean given who the Cowboys army, and how do you see that factoring into his worth, and ultimately his future contract? He's the lowest priority from this year timing because you don't have to do him. He's not in a kind of track your, so it's not the same urgency, but you can make a case. He should be the highest priority. Because when Steven Jones says, he's the straw that stirs drink. I mean he's the engine makes the offense go. That would be the guy that you should take care of personally. I've a philosophical problem with paying any running back because you can find a running back who can be very effective, practically anywhere. So what I would do is I treat them like you treated DeMarco Murray. I run this sucker underground, which you're already doing 'cause he's got a very high usage rate so far in terms of carries, I think it's fourth most average per game in NFL history through the first years, I'd keep doing that. Then the fifth year option in franchise and try to find someone to be. Placement and win it didn't make sense financially. I'd kick him to the curb, they're not going to do that. They're going to give them a contract could be as early as this year. Cowboys are one of the few teams that do sign players firt fit your options first round picks before the start of the fourth year. We did that with Tyron Smith and Travis spreader now the one thing I'd be concerned about is I wouldn't want history Pete itself, if there's any inkling that Ezekiel Elliott could hold out. I would take it seriously. And I'd try to get the deal done sooner rather than later because. Twenty five twenty six years ago. Cowboys got an old to start because they didn't wanna pay him. It sniff who was the engine driving the train, and I would not want to have to go through that again. So that's why he's not the priority over Dak or Mari, but he could get something done for a year, and it's going to be in the Todd Gurley range, which is basically a fifteen million a year fourteen twenty five the average max at fifteen year forty five million overall guarantees biggest signing bonus for that contract ever. Twenty one million leaving. I'm Bill has the most money fully guaranteed and running back contract twenty seven million. So that's the neighborhood you're talking about to extend them. But when you do that you're going to try to you should and you've drafted running backs to try to lighten his work load, whenever you can because the history of backs who have extreme usage on a consistent. Basis doesn't bode well for long jetty. Certainly, you're right. Obviously the nineteen Ninety-three Cowboys start off into without Emmett. I never go into. And then ultimately when the Super Bowl. So here's hoping that happens at least I do think obviously. And I know you pointed out that type girly is the most sort of symmetrical comparison disease, just given that he was also first round draft. Pick. Also paid prior to his fourth season. Obviously first-rounders. Well, if you look it if you're representing Zeke is is there pressure in that, you know, we heard around playoff time Zeke did want contract extension? This offseason who wouldn't want one sooner rather than later. But if you are representing the are you at all applying pressure from the sense of, hey, look, the Rams took care of Todd Gurley. And then if no doubt about that note about no doubt. I'm going hey, they took care early. Last year you guys have a history of doing guys. They played it fourth year. So it'd be one thing. Dow. Never done kind of prac- for first round pick after the third season they don't too. So you got that you gotta running back last June, Gurley was the only two thousand fifteen first round pick to get a deal after three years. So yeah, I'm pointing to both those things. It's interesting Zeke is kind of the, the outline here because he doesn't seem to be as connected to one another as the other two. I wanna move onto Amari next. And I wanna start with you. You mentioned you know, there's a possibility that any of them really, but the z could hold out, and obviously, that exists in situations like this. A friend of mine is always in my ear, and he's always telling these and dude if I was Amari, I would hold that because I mean, from the perspective of perceived worse. I think everybody agrees that Amari Cooper is one of the, you know, top all whatever you want eight or nine receivers in the NFL. But if feels like he could never have an eight game run that would replicate or emulate, maybe the discipline production. Sure. But the emotion that was a vote based on. What he did over the second half of last season. I mean, if I was Amari that would be a legitimate idea at the very least just because what he came in and did in is so almost impossible to do yet. He did it. I understand. He's certainly on his fifth year option. But I mean, would that be a consideration from our in your opinion? Yeah. It's up thing that you would talk about, you know, hold out is really up to individual player and how they feel about it. You can't make a player hold out agent 'cause if they're not into it, and they don't have conviction about it hits. It's doing for failure, right? The thing is the Cowboys kinda have to get deal done with him because you didn't give up your first round pick to have him, just be short term player in Dallas. So that's his leverage comes from plus the impact he had on the passing game. Right. Oh, what's he? What's he got here? So you're gonna have to pay him if not at the top of the market near the top of the market because he's got a lot of things in his favor. Could you play for the basically fourteen million? If he had to. Yeah, if you're gonna franchise him, and he doesn't have a deal going to be basically eighteen million next year. So. Yeah. He's, he's sitting pretty Amari Cooper is in a great position is a Mark Hooper in a position to leverage. The fact that he you know, because his quarterback is going to get paid. Obviously any Antonio Brown has an effect on the receiving game in Oakland, etc. But Amar's in a position where he has an effect on the passing game that is also to get paid. So if you're a Mari, are you coming from a perspective of, hey, if you're passing game is worth thirty million dollars a year and we'll get to deck on the second. You know, I, I don't know that, you know, that number from me shouldn't be higher. If feels unique in that sense. Agent. He's got Joel Siegal who held out Khalil Mack in, in guide him made him the highest paid non quarterback and football. I'm I'm telling the powers that be I major passing game. I guy major passing game. What was your quarterback last year before my guy got here, there's a market different dramatic difference between what your quarterback did with in without me? So you need to pay me for what I brought to the table in terms of making this team go from an also ran to a division winner in that is all because of me. I also impact, how defense is defend Ezekiel Elliott, because me is Jim receiving threat got makes life a little bit easier for him to so. Yeah, I'm bringing up all of those things. I'm the agent. So before we get to sort of the overall perspective, deck Prescott is the subject that if you've never really completely dived into Cowboys twin. Her Joel, you know, you might want to wear a wet suit. If you're gonna talk about deck, because people get really upset when it comes to the idea paying him or not paying, etc. Obviously the going rate for franchise quarterbacks in two thousand nineteen about thirty million dollars a year. Do you think there's any chance first off that he signs a long term contract extension that is for a lower annual value? Well, he said he's not gonna do the Tom Brady's thing. So I don't expect any player really do that. Particularly when he was never made any real NFL money Dacca's a little bit polarizing to me because I put quarterbacks in three categories. There are quarterbacks you win in spite of that was the jets of Mark Sanchez their quarterbacks you win because of that was Peyton Manning, indie. That's Tom Brady now in their quarterbacks, you can win with that is in that second category. It's kind of a Jordan, when you say this, but to me the game manager and Tom Brady was a game manager early in his career in Bob out of that. Russell Wilson still has game manager, qualities even though he's proven when they when he has to he can take over a game was arm, because that's kind of what their offense have been. Let's get behind Russell go win it for, for the most part. You don't say that go throw us a. Victory because he got our best running back in the NFL. But that being said the way the quarterback market works curious after pay him, probably in the neighborhood at thirty million dollars for you. Whether you like it or not, if Jimmy Garoppolo can get twenty seven and a half million last year off a five big games in back is got a greater body, your work in a more proven track record. Yeah, you're going north of that. So what would the reason then be I mean, to put it simplistically because all of the evidence supports the deck should get paid. I mean, if you look at, you know, statistical measurements and his resume to this point entering his fourth year in the NFL, and especially the Jimmy Garoppolo contract that he got after five stars in San Francisco, it, it does seem sort of matter of fact while, you know, it's kind of like ven diagram sorts Dak fits in this particular spot of it, and that's thirty thirty and a half million dollars per year. I mean, what it almost be easy in that sense, interest. More of a matter of, you know feeling. Easy. I guess. Yeah. Well, I don't know easy might not be perhaps up. Have off Stephen Jones mitt to have more red into comment about Elliott is a straw, stirs. The drink I don't wanna pay a quarterback. I don't wanna pay my quarterback thirty million dollars for your personally. He's not the straw, stirs drink. But that's neither here nor there. You're gonna have to pay him in the neighborhood. If you don't you gotta look at what the alternative, you don't have one in Jerry does stuff, which boggles my mind in terms of Kuda to his comments, which I would've loved is an agent because anytime agents and something pas about a client. I would either tape it and keep it printed out filed away. And I would use it come to go. She Asian time. So what does Jerry in the middle of last season? If I had the first overall pick and I could get in. I if I get the first overall pick and another first round pick per round picks I wouldn't trade, I wouldn't take that for deck. I'm like, okay, you know what you just did you just told Todd France, who. Represents corpus Donal, who had holed out, basically, you come franchise quarterback. That's a compensation for a non exclusive franchise tag, that number is going to be twenty seven million that Nate putting exit the cap is close to two hundred million second tag is going to be somewhere that thirty two million dollar range, depending upon where the exact number is in twenty twenty so you're going to be close to thirty million. If you have to franchise tag now most quarterbacks, get the exclusive franchise tax, so that nobody can solicit. They can't solicit offer sheets. That's a different calculation. It's based on the average of the top five quarterback salaries. This basically cap numbers is how to define for these purposes and the CBA at the end of the restraint restricted free agent signing period next year right around and draft those numbers right now currently project to a little over thirty two million. So Todd France going put an exclusive franchise tag on him next year for. Thirty two million. I'm back doing you favor. If I accept something in the thirty million dollars. No. That's certainly the situation, the plagued Kirk cousins, and we saw that unfold, etc. I agree with that. I think that that's certainly a detail to consider, what's just be hypothetical. And for the purposes of easy math. Let's assume Dak signs of, you know, call it a four year thirty million dollars thirty million dollars in annual you know, year deal. Let sue assume Amari gets eighteen million per season. Let's assume Zeke get something like, you know, sixteen is that feasible is that manageable because I think everybody's concern here. You know, the premise behind your article was how the Cowboys can afford and keep all of them, keep them, financially content and still thrive are those contracts should they all happen over the course of the next call three hundred sixty five days that, you know, the Cowboys are, are not completely weighed down. Yeah. I it's doable from a couple of standpoints when you gotta spend money because the first two years of the four year spinning period, two thousand seventeen through twenty you're you're tracking about four five percent under the eighty nine percent spending minimum. So you gotta spend, too in terms of twenty twenty cap commitments only like three teams which have your cap commitments, do you only have like thirty six on a contract, but you got ton cap room compared to everybody else. Now what it could do is you're gonna have to make choices down the road. Once you have all those guys on huge contracts, which are the players, you're gonna keep around. I think first guy that's going to go as well Collins 'cause you got three high price line me you can't afford a fourth. If you're paying all these guys, you've got cameras swimming under contract with an option year. If you pick it up four and a half million. So that's a lot cheaper than having to pay Collins. So that may be right tackle in twenty Twen. Anti Dallas for in its heyday never paid a linebacker basically let everyone backer, walk out the door. Whether it was Kim. Norton Darren Smith. You name it Randall Godfrey of all those guys, they walk in free agency and get paid somewhere else. Jalen Smith is gonna be interesting on, he's not gonna be unrestricted free agent right next year because it's been his rookie year. Football owners injury with you don't get credit for year service for Aden. She purposes on that list that's gonna make them restricted free agent. So they could give a second round tender, which was rigid insensitive original draft around. It would be the lowest tender and retain his rights. And if you sign an offer sheet and they didn't match. They get a second round pick or upgraded. And that number could be approaching five million next year and get a first round pick. But if that whole linebacker thing comes back, full circle, then he may not be someone who gets a term DO cash also have to deal with them by Jones. Chris Rashard quickly identified the use plain out of positions like this is a quarterback in Jones thrive last year. Right. Made his first Pro Bowl was earns from second team all pro honors you got a big corner. It would be highly coveted. If you let him hit the open market, if you stick a franchise tag on him next year that, that would require you're getting both Amari. And that gun, then that's going to be about sixteen five at least retainer for one more year. I think he takes a higher priority signing wise, long-term over either Collins Smith. I think that, that's a fascinating year. That's going on fold first off, I think, you know, looking in retrospect, it really is amazing. How the cob is kind of threaded needle with that twenty sixteen draft. Obviously, you get seeking the first round with this fifth year option. And then you get Jalen on the second round and five pallet needed him to have a remarkable recovery, but still you took a risk. And you got yourself a guy that would have been a top five pick no worse than the top ten pick. It had not had the gruesome knee injury. And if, yes, certainly and you don't say luck into, but you've fall into this restricted for agency situation with him. And then obviously Dak Prescott in the fourth round and everything that's come with that. That was the lucky because you wanna packs Winston God forbid taxing went well, maybe Tony Romo still be playing here to gotten his job back 'cause I can't imagine Paxton Lynch would have done anything to work Tony Romo getting Wally pipped people don't know while he was the guy who lost his job here. So they all yet counter counter cookie being Saint position. It really is amazing. Everything goes full circle in that regard, the last thing on all this Joel is you wrote about this as well. We've talked about it. It'd be next year. The franchise and transition tax can both be placed up by Tim, correct in. So if the Cowboys running, but to get an Amari deal done could, you know, they could conceivably then franchise tag. I'm in place, the transition tag on Byron if they didn't wanna lose it, correct. Right. You could you could restrict both guys. But for transition, tag, you only. Get a right to match any offer sheet. So if there was a team couch. Still being pretty good shape, cap wise. So it'd be hard to put together an offer sheet, they wouldn't match because you can't do poison pills anymore. Thanks to shenanigans use ago with Nate Burleson and you punch Anderson, but that could potentially mean another team do your deal. But yeah, you, you could keep them off the open market, and make sure you had a chance to say Aye or nay for transition tag. My final question jolt of before the first nap of the nineteen season back, Amari Zeke which of them do have long term contracts and what's your strongest belief as to why. All three I think all three do. I think that the Cowboys are sensitive to making surely, Stephen is when he talks about doing extensions including Zeke in that conversation. They've done first round pick contracts after three years. So I think they're gonna do him as well or at least make an attempt. So I think all three at least two Amari Dako it'll be done. Well, that's exciting. Joel. Or you can read them at CBS sports, you can follow him on Twitter at Corey, jaw, you can hear him, you hit the airwaves everywhere jaw. I, I don't know if there's a radio station in America. You haven't been on. I'm sure there plenty of them. But I do much here of interviews appreciated. John have a great weekend, who's one of the PGA championship that you're keeping tabs on that, who you got winning. Not tiger. Woods. He's off to eight snow start. I'm gonna take a flyer on Bryson Shambo got two wins early in the year. And he's openly gonna win a major some point in time. I would say Rickie Fowler. But that dude, he's, he's getting like what we Westwood used to be. Well it when he's ever gonna wanna major, maybe never Ricky is really the supporting I'm gonna go Brooks just because why not at this point? So he seems to peak for majors and regular tournaments. He's a mere mortal I heard him on a ton of podcast this week that he is just the most chill dude in the world. I mean he's like I don't I don't ever play golf when I'm not playing. Yeah. Why would I play? Of course. Why would you play Brooks? You're just, you know, just God-given that's fine. Good luck to even so appreciated. Jaw have a great weekend. Thanks for stopping by. Thanks for having me. Many, many, many, many, many things Joel Corey of CBS sports taking the time to join us here on the podcast really fascinating conversation really interesting certainly to learn about the salary cap implications that are hovering around act Prescott Z gonna Amari Cooper, obviously, this is quite the juggling act that Steven Jones has to perform, and you think about some of the things that Joel said, obviously, if you're an agent and you hear things like Jerry San Dak of first overall, pick worthy player, etc. That has to make you feel good and Stevens saying that Zeke is the straw that stirs. The Cowboys drink is something along those lines that is important, and he'll world of negotiations, I think it's also interesting to note that Joel said he intimidates expects I should say, all three players to have new contracts before the season begins. If you had asked me or five asked myself, I would have said that for sure. I think that gets done, obviously, we're talking here in the middle of may. I would I would assume Dak is done by the second week of training camp. I've been saying that for a while now and again, that's no inside scoop, or anything. That's just my own sort of gut feel and it does kind of feel like Amari is close to that. I mean, you know, it's certainly possible for the cops negotiate more than one or two deals at once, but I have to believe that, you know, one is going to somewhat influence the other. I'm not saying that Dak signs for X, then all of a sudden Z cannot sign for why or whatever. But it would be very interesting, if they pulled off all three in a very, very short time span, this sort of began, or India, or concluded or whatever you want to say at training camp, but if they're all secure, they're all locked all under contract for the foreseeable future. That would give a lot of people some real peace entering the twenty nine hundred season because then your primary focus becomes what Byron Jones, right? I mean, that's it. Right. If, if all three of those guys and there would be some uproar about that, obviously. But if all three of them are locked into their long term contracts before the twenty nineteen season begins, you have no more sort of real, pending issues. I know that. Byron would be there. But people would not be losing sleep over that the way they kind of are with Dacca. Mario, I do agree with Joel that Lyle Collins is probably on the way on the way out so hard way to put it. But Lyle Collins, he wrote about this whole subject obviously, but what he wrote about. Lyell was the he probably becomes more of a luxury. He mentioned came Fleming, who does have the option for twenty twenty. In addition, it came from the cabinet protected themselves to a great degree along the line. We've talked about this a lot since the draft. They could also obviously kick out Connor Williams, right tackle replace him with McGovern, the O'Connor idle swap, which is by the way, kind of something that happened in survivor to go back to the beginning of the show. So who knows? But. So Lyle might be the I man out, especially if Byron does get his long-term deal. And there's all the reason in the world to believe that Byron would get his long-term deal. If he had another Pro Bowl all pro season in nineteen like he did last season. This is a good problem. I know that it all. Probably sounds daunting. It all sounds like man. I don't wanna pay all these guys don't want to give all this money, etc. This is a very good problem have this is a way better problem than not having all these players to pay. I mean you look at it and I think it was just another reminder for people that, that still believe the Cowboys are amass or whatever you wanna call it you'll if you what the New York Jets have going on the firing of Mike maccagnan, and everything that's happening there, those are actual real problems with the guy was going on is, is, is what you want, you want to draft well enough that you're to the point where you're struggling over figuring out how to pay everybody. That's, that's the world you wanna live in Britain. And then clouds, the Cowboys are right now. So that about does it for Thursday's episode. Enjoy the PJ championship. I do spend Brooksville Rian we'll win. Although my heart is obviously with Tiger Woods like everybody else. I think they're Bryson is very interesting shot, Joe for that. Follow Joel on Twitter at Corey JOL. Follow me on Twitter at Arja show. Make sure you follow the site Twitter account at blogging, the boys. 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Brews & The 'Boys: Which Cowboys would you give extensions to?

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Brews & The 'Boys: Which Cowboys would you give extensions to?

"Welcome to another edition of the brews in the boys podcast. Brought to you by blogging boy, Hsi-wei media and produced by SP nation in the box media podcast network. You know, me folks, my name is Michael size where you can find me on Twitter at Mr. Sizemore, we're here to talk about America's team the Dallas Cowboys with me as always he is the Yang to my Yang. He is the Walter Matthau to my Jack Lemmon the aren't Anderson to my RIC flair without him. I would get in lots of our fights, folks. Tom rile. Fine him on Twitter at Tom rile BT, and we're gonna talk about some cowboy stuff here this week last week. You know, there wasn't. There was a little bit of stuff to talk about with the coaches. But this week we're kind of going to play around with what the Cowboys should do in the off season. And we had such a great conversation over at blogging the boys with yes in our in our cohorts about who should the Cowboys pay because it seems Tom that everybody wants to get paid this off season. Well, yeah, there's a lot of Carrick free agents. And there's also some people that are looking at extensions even though they're not necessarily up for free agency yet. And yeah, the the team has a lot of cap space and a lot of people kinda wanna chunk of it. I mean and a lot of these players. They are your best players. We're talking about you know, everyone knows that they gotta do something with DeMarcus Lawrence. You can't let it pass rusher. Like that walk. Cout there's talks about you know, what can they really offer Colby's -ly? Do they want to offer Kobe's anything is going to be thirty years old? But you just saw the Super Bowl a slot receiver became the MVP of that game. So yeah, it just depends on by the way one thing. I want to say on that Tom no quick about the Super Bowl. I find it. So funny as Jack Nicholson would say, I've find it particularly pecan that that these Super Bowl ended the way it did when so many it was all about offense all your long. It was all about scoring all year long cheese. The Rams fifty four fifty one on Monday night football. And Super Bowl ends the way. It does with a thirteen to three victory for the patriots. They shut down the Rams offense completely it. None of those playmakers mattered on offense. No, no Jared Goff didn't really show playing. Well, Todd Gurley might be dinged up. We don't know. But none of those playmakers on offense showed up in the defense of ones that did show up. Didn't really matter in the end. Yeah. And yeah, it was it was just Arnie all over the place, and you, and I want to say that you know, elements shouldn't have been the MVP. They should have given it to a defender that was just that makes. I saw that not even one vote went to a defender. And I'm like what what are people thinking? But anyway offense to win. That's all they they just here. Offense to always more the more exciting positions. But I just thought it was great that all this talk all year round, Tom has been about. Oh offense is the new way. You gotta start being so creative on offense. If if Jason Garrett scored three points in the Super Bowl, he wouldn't have been on the plane back from Atlanta. Yeah. And and everybody will be calling for Dak Prescott s- hit if he'd put like that it. Yeah. It bad games can happen to everybody. But you know, while you're talking about people that they need make a decision on free agency. Don't forget that. They've gotta figure out what they're going to do with those extensions. You know, you've got Maury Cooper out there. They're talking about that Prescott. You know, maybe they wanna make a move on him. Now that was a real subject of our conversation. And I you know, I just put up something about why it may be wise to make a move on him. And how he's going to get a lot more money than a lot of people seem to expect. Let's go there. Let's go there. Let's Prescott because I think a lot of folks on Twitter don't understand where we are here. They all your in. Yeah. That's that's exactly that was going to clarify that they do not understand the quarterback market in the NFL. No. And I think you could put that market is for a lot of different positions. But certainly quarterback I said last night, Tom, and then I'm gonna let you give your your rundown of this. When when we were talking about this last night in kind of just discussing the what it's deck Prescott worth. And you know, some folks said that he's that he's gonna get paid, you know, twenty five to thirty million dollars and others were saying, I don't think he's worth that. I said it doesn't matter. What he what he's worth? You know, it quarterbacks get paid. Yeah. And it's the simple fact is is is it's a harsh calculation. There are thirty two teams in the NFL. You can may become up with twenty starter quality that backs in the league right now yet generous because you I in the article, but is going up. I think soon I rattled off twelve quarterbacks that I've really did not think we're starter quality. And the only one you might still be able to argue on that list. I think is ally manning and maybe Joe flacco Hawaii included because they just aren't doing much, you know, with what they've got, you know, the the ravens have been winning with defense manning. They just had a couple of really bad years. But explain what I what I mean real quick for you, Tom like because I know you know, what I mean. But for the folks out there, and I said quarterbacks get paid as I look at. This like an agent does if the owner Jerry Jones has come into me and says I want to extend your client. I wanna extend that quarterback. Then I know as an agent that he is at least thinking and toying with the idea of is this my quarterback for the future. Is this franchise quarterback, which that means the leverage there is pretty high for the Asian because you're gonna look at all these quarterbacks that are getting paid that might not be as good as Dak Prescott. And here's the full-ti- of that the Cowboys had pretty much admitted. He is the franchise order by they plan for a decade more of him under center or back in the shotgun. Which is where takes more snaps not. But they've already committed to him the Kellen Moore John kitten omos were going all in on getting him where he needs to be so yeah, they're going to pay him. They are going to. The whole Bill is if you work out something now, you may save twenty thirty million dollars over the course of the contract. And if you let him play out the year and then try to work something out next season. I want you to run through those quarterbacks that have been paid recently. I'm you had the information in your post. It's going to go up soon and actually. Actually idea. Actually, I didn't have the list of quarterbacks who have been paid. But let me see here. But you can kind of while you look for an I want you to rattle those numbers off for our listeners. And let them know what guys have been getting held some people. I'm sorry. I some people on I'm sorry. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. I was thinking different settled numbers. Okay. I had to just scroll up and five at then. Okay. And this we have to credit one. He came up with these Google the mandate, April twenty seventeen lions gave Matt Stafford a five year one hundred thirty five million dollar deal twenty seven million per year, February twenty eighteen the forty Niners gave Jimmy Garoppolo five year deal worth one hundred thirty seven point five million twenty seven point five million a year. Now Garoppolo has you know, he's had. Had just a handful of games when he wasn't injured. And yet he got paid because they said he was the quarterback of the future and season worth starts. Yeah. In March twenty eighteen Kirk cousins signed in Minnesota eighty four million dollars three years twenty eight million a year. And he hasn't exactly done a lot may twenty eight teen falcons. Give Matt Ryan thirty million a year over five years or one hundred fifty million dollars. And k you know, he's got like played in a Super Bowl will give him that. But he before that he was like, Tony. Yeah. And then in all of last year the Green Bay Packers extended Aaron Rodgers, and it was four years one hundred thirty four million thirty three point five million a year. Now he's worth penny. Rogers is worth every penny. They. I just don't have a team around him right now. So you look at these numbers, and you know as. OCC mentioned you'll look at Prescott you stacking up against that. And the only guy you'd have to say his clearly ahead of him is Rogers. So even if you go on the logic of what we should slot him in. There were talking between thirty three and a half million a year. So thirty one thirty two million a year for him for four five year deal. Now that discounts the entire annual inflation is the salary at goes up need to remembers the inflation. Yeah. The calf goes off. And that means agents are coming harder for more money. And you're also going to have the argument of Aaron Rodgers is probably on his last deal, or at least you have to be considering that it's his last deal. Not even see the end of that deal. Yeah. Dak could have one more deal after this one probably. We will. That's what the hoping for unless they go crazy and signing some incredibly long thing. But I think we're looking at a four five year deal with Tony Romo got a sixty seven million dollar extension before he ended up signing one hundred eight million dollars cinching later. So it's very possible. This is just one deal before. Yes. So and so you're you're looking at him that agent. I've got no doubt my mind. He's gonna come in and be talking thirty four thirty five million a year off the start now that may be his negotiating position or he could come in asking for even more. But the arguments going to be like this is the quarterback that you're looking at for eight to ten years, you know, you need to pay him. He wants his money. Now, he wants a lot of guaranteed dollars because a career in the NFL in effect an end in one play it can end in practice. You know, you just never know when something can come up and happen. So. They're going to be talking about a lot of money for debt Prescott. And there's risk and all the big contracts. But I think four your quarterback when you've got a guy that's posted his record, which I believe is now thirty three and eighteen over three years. It works out to sixty five percent of the games. He's won. When you've got a quarterback in your team is winning that number of games with him. Yes. You're going to invest in him. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you wholeheartedly. This is I think folks need to realize when they think, oh, well, this guy's only worth fifteen or twelve to fifteen million a year in mind will guys that's not the money you're playing with here. If the inflation means a lot, okay, not going to pay a quarterback that much and the quarterback operates at an entirely different level. It's it's something apart. You can't really talk about you know. Okay. We'll your. Edris or should get. No sorry. You don't have you know, one guy out rushing the passer, you know, but teams turn over every year because staff and personnel with their abilities to find a franchise quarterback. If you have one you're gonna pay to find out if he is or not. Yeah. And a lot of teams pay and then find out. Well, you know, maybe he isn't. Yeah. But that's the going rate that it is. It is a really it. It's something I think they need to look and investing in him really early. Yeah. Early might be bent like, you said early might get you a better deal because then later on you're sitting here looking year later, and you're probably more like four or five more year. Yeah. There's probably going to be people over thirty five million in in another year is just that's how it's going. Plus, you know, people will be looking to sign that last deal before they get to the. Possible lockout, which is I've got no idea how that factors factors into thinking. But yeah, you know, we've we've got some labor strife coming up in the NFL, but less next year. Like you said, and this is the last say on deck, and we'll move we'll take a quick break and then move on. But Dak Prescott you're paying your your floor. Is right about thirty million dollars a year like twenty thirty two million dollars a year. Yeah. I think that is that is the low range, and and I've become a shot that they get at all under thirty. Yes, exactly. That's the price. Well, anyway, we will be right back on the bruise and the boys podcast sticks. Stick right here. We'll be right back to talk more about free agents. And we are back. So the next thing I wanted to say we already talked. We know that they're going to re-sign DeMarcus Lawrence don't crazy. We just talked about Dak Prescott. What do you think about extending Amari, Cooper, and Zeki Elliott? Let's start with Mari Cooper. Yes. I think it'd be smart again an extension on him. He still young. You're look, you know. Here's your first round draft pick this year yet let that's just how you think about it. But you're not going to be able to get that I that rookie contract. So it's going to cost you more yet. He's probably worth somewhere in the fifteen to twenty million a year range, and he's your he's your wide receiver one. And he gives you that anchor free receiving core. Then you got Michael Gallup to play to be out there with him. And then you've got a sort out who else you've got. But you've got the big gun. And so, yeah, I think I think they definitely should look go ahead and extending him for the same reason if they wait until he actually it's free agency is just gonna bump the price up a little bit. I agree with you on that. I think that morning Cooper, you should look for the same reasons we were talking about Daqing just inflation in general, you should look at signing him early. I just think that helps your team I really do believe that it has. Is going to be it would be much harder to replace Amari Cooper. Then it would be to replace this next guy that we're gonna talk about and it's a tough situation here. But Zeki Elliott the Cowboys running back the whole offense is based on what they can do with Zeke Elliot day are getting rid. They got rid of the offensive coordinator. Because they don't believe that part of it that he was using his players correctly. Or using the entire skill set as bailable to him of guys like Dak Prescott Zeke, Elliot so Zeke, Elliot he is there's rumors that he would like to get an extension as well. You know, the Cowboys loves Zeki, Elliot, but the history DeMarco Murray's not that far behind us, Tom you believe that the Cowboys will eventually say this is the NFL in running backs. We do not value that or do you see them paying Zeke Elliott, or what what do you think about the Zeke Elliott possible extension? Rumors. While I of problem is we're lacking some information here. And that is we don't really know what killing more has in mind for this offense. We don't know what he and Jason Garrett are talking about doing are. They looking at moving away from the run Centric offense that they've had for the past three years if they do that the suddenly, yeah, you're not going to be in a hurry to extend exe- culet. You've still got another year under contract and the fifth year option you can call him. Yeah. And so what is Elliott want to do? I mean is he going to try to pull a Levy on bell and sit out a season, you know, that would create an interesting set of problems, but the real thing, and and this is what a lot of people just don't seem to quite catch onto you can plug in place. So many people that running back, and if you've got a good offensive line in drivers, Frederick is hopefully going to be back, then you don't need to have the best running back in the league to make your offense work, you need a good running back who can go out be eleven twelve hundred yard carrier. Get you a second back who can give you four or five hundred yards in relief. And you're good. You're good to go. But I would argue he special he is special. He has a special. He's a different type of running back. He's not a normal plug and light play running back. He is more than that. Yeah. But you have to ask yourself is is he that special thoroughbred horse at the Indy. Five hundred is he just worthy. I think. So. Yeah. Just I just don't know if he is the right? Thing to have and. Well, let me let me put it this way. I think that DeMarco Murray was more of a product of the most amazing offense of line since the nineteen nineties Cowboys. Yeah, I think Zeke does a lot more than what the offense of line has been able to give him sometimes. Oh, yeah. And I think he could certainly do a lot more the line as healthy here would just trying to talk dollar since resource investment. And I really don't know. Now. I don't him right now. I'm with you. I think you wait a little I thank you at least try to get to next year. And it's going to take some diplomacy and finesse just to say look Winnie get through this season. And then see where we are. And we can look at things on your option year, or you know, maybe they can, you know, before they they can go ahead and exercise the option than possibly negotiating. Extension during this the spanning of. So it's just there's a lot going on. I just don't I think the main thing is don't be in a hurry. Commit a lot of your cap dollars to him. Yeah. I think in the end, I agree with you. I was trying to play a little devil's advocate there. But I do agree with you. I think Zeke Elliot though is a special back. You know as compared to DeMarco Murray, but I do think you wait on that just because that's a lot to to to just, you know, divvy out to Zeke, Elliot when you don't know what your offense is going to be you don't know what it's going to change into. Now. Let's move into some free agency in the last couple of minutes. Let's talk about real quickly. Would you would you put an extension out there to Kobe? Or would you let him walk? I would make him an offer. But I would not be. I would not be concerned about getting outbid. Okay. Okay. Is to me is kind of. Why can't hitch? It was last year. Exactly. He's a nice to have. But he's not an assessing. Yeah. And I you know, it's it's a little bit risky. I love Beasley as a player. I just I feel like this is going to be another financial thing where they're just going to say, okay. We've only got so much spread around. We've got a lot of important contract. We got to sort out. Now, if they decide perhaps to forgo some of these for another Caesar to than maybe they'll free up the money for him. But I'm leaning towards Beasley going somewhere else. And I would not be surprised to see with the patriots. Exactly. But here's what I think. Koby gonna find out. I think that Koby Isley is going to find out what their real value for a slot receiver actually is versus what he thinks. It should be a lot of players find that out when they go to gauge. Yeah, you're just I don't think if you think it Lee thinks that he should be paid. You know with you know, the top receivers in the league. Yeah. Now, I would still pay golden Tate before I'd pay a Kobe's -ly goal. Gates older. Yeah. I think he ought to you know, he this war shopping around somebody may by and be willing to give him a little bit more money. But there's a chance to couple of good slat receivers in that draft. Yeah. And it's off as also possible. He may just go out shop around not really like the offers situations out there and the Cowboys have something offer on the table. And he may want it coming back to it. And they you know, everybody may be kind of happy ports loan with. But yeah. And I got another question for you. Tom tight ends in free agency do or don't go find tied in. I don't I don't think any of them are going to offer you marmot. I'm kind of excited about this tied in class in the draft. And flees understand when I say that I'm basing that on what I'm hearing from other people. I am not a tape grinder myself. You know, I can't sit there and tell you a great prospect who isn't. But there seemed to be some great day to day three tight end options. Which of course is extremely pertinent to the Cowboys. Yes. And when you look at free agency and tied ends, there's nobody you know, the the top tight end that's hitting free agency. This year's Jesse James a he's he's kind of in the mold of Jeff Suame, but just a little bit better at at at the point of attack and stuff like I don't know that he is worth going and throwing money at a tied in when you got a young class tight ends that people are little excited about I wait on that. And I wanna see. If is swipe gonna come back. I don't know what the situation is with him. But d- really want to look at brain somebody else in when you may be able to get him healthy. And if they rolled into into training camp with with Swain Schultz, and whilst the loans name late Jarrin yet Jarwan if they had those three plus a drafty, and then, you know. Then baby if they feel like they need a little more depth. They could look at maybe signing someone, but that would definitely be the thing where they go to their famous bargain bin. That's keeping an eye on Tyler who has a hit injury history. Because I just would like to see what happens Tyler, I I know he's got a lot of playmaking ability. But he's injured every single season. I would like to see what happens in free agency for Tyler. I for it. Because maybe he ends up in the bargain bin, and you can get a pretty decent deal and not have to actually give him an invest in him too much. Yeah. Next off you're not going there. Do you look at wide receivers? I would kind of again, that's where I would, you know, kinda be cruising the bargain aisles. Yes. And just you know, see who might pop up, and who isn't giving a lot of action. Plus, you know, maybe you bring tape on Austin back because talk about getting spit you can get somebody cheap. There's going to be any market for him now. And he's he's got game. Breaking speed. That's one thing. He's always at an even showed that several times this year. And I would I would say you primarily going to sign him as a return specialist. Exactly. 'cause with you get outta turn game is trash. So I think there's a good chance. They may bring him back on something friendly the other one I want to spend on swing tackle in free agency. I wanna veteran swing tackle. And I think that you could just re-sign see what it would cost to resign. Your own guy. Re-signing Cam Fleming. But I wanna look at swing tackle. Because I think you know, there's you're not gonna go and get one of the top tackles out there like Jared Velde here is the top tackle on the market right now. But he on if you if you read PF up a lot of people don't read into their grades much. He was only like four or five points higher than what the Cowboys had with Cam Fleming. And he's thirty one he's five years old older. But I would look at paying a veteran tackle to be your swing tackle. Because I don't think it's going to cost you that much. But I think it's better than having a rookie there. Yeah. And that's that's one. We're Fleming may be the guy. But yeah, you probably want to have a veteran. Swing tackle in your pocket going into camp or at least going into the draft. Maybe you draft someone to come in and compete for that job. Hey, you and Tom we. Love drafting off of lineman every year. I don't care. Yeah. And I think they're going to pick up somebody. You're good at it. Why stop? Yeah. I I don't think we're going to see them going with an interior offensive linemen. And quite frankly, that's to me is just a tribute to Joe looney. You get tribes Frederick back. Then looney becomes your interior backup man on gang. Weight room. Yeah. And that's good. But the, you know, if you're just talking about having to add somebody, I don't think there's any pressure at all to try to get an interior offensive lineman right now position. I wanna ask you about Tom K defensive tackle, a let's go find somebody in free agency. Right. Yeah. I wanna might even go free agency and draft somebody. Oh, I agree. I think there's enough room on the the roster for that. And there is a long list of of forget since out there. So, you know, a lot they like Sheldon Richardson, he has not proven to be the best first round pick ever in. He's had to sign a lot of prove it deals. Yeah. So I'm in. Yeah. I'm in also, Tom I wanted to ask I'm talking about defensive tackle. I think that when you go back and you look at the Rams loss. That was a big problem. You just did not have guys that can move that could stay in their gaps. Because there was a great offense of flying on the other side of them pushing them out of their position constantly, and I think that that was a big problem for them in that game was stopping the run because they were getting beat up front, and this is the one position where I think they might look at an older guy to. Yes, as I've got an older proven guy who still playing a high level, or at least a d a good level who fits the system and who's not going to break the Bank. But yeah, I would definitely wanna short up with at least one free agent going in because you're still going to be looking at the draft because it's like tied in as a lot of good defensive tackle talent coming out college this year, only two different defensive tackles. That are free agents are gonna get big deals at Grady Jarrett in dominancy and Adama consume might still. Have to sign a one year big deal. That's it. So yeah. You don't know is there. Yeah. He's just getting old. He's getting old now long who with this is one where you're going to look at the second second wave and then baby the third way for the Cowboys. And I'm happy with that too. I is is as we've said, they don't have a crying free agent need. What we've gotta go out and find the starter position. X they are looking for backup for guys that are going to come in and shore up some depth somebody that can be more rotational player than have to come in start. That's why there's no where that really is a bad place for them to look that right and people anywhere, and they can stick with their preferred philosophy of probably going with just the bargain bin unless you're going to really you're not to give out big money. I think to anybody unless. Less you go go for less. They decide to buy the the by on rural Thomas. We couldn't go one show without mention it. You oughta talk free agents, and he's the sixty four million dollar free agent question in Dallas, exactly. But is Chris Rashard going to sell off to get him? I want. Yeah. Kristie art is going to put rod Marinelli in a closet while he goes and gets defensive tackles. 'cause. Yeah. Marinelli doesn't value beef. Then then prisoner shards gonna say can I pretty please have Earl Thomas, but you know, if you're gonna pay big money for safety. It's got to be one like him. Yeah. But is he really the only one with with his injury. I mean, the guy is has some some unique talent and his ability diagnose stuff, but. If you're in the injury history might make them cheaper, it might making cheaper. But if it doesn't there are some really interesting names on the free agent list. I don't know how would all filled in with Chris Rashard, well tire people don't even mention him, Tom. He doesn't fit our scheme. Fits everyone's game. How just? Let's let the sarcasm trae of Boston is a strong safety. No, he's not. He's only played free Steven he's only played his entire career, and Eric Eric Reed may be one of those guys who's cheap because everybody's scared of the protests thing. Oh my God. Yeah. If if if you're going to go in for pretty decent are high costs free agent contract. Yeah. Then why not go for safety, and while yourself to one name, I think that is where they ought to be looking because I think they can find someone that would upgrade that could go in there and lime up with executive your woods put Jeff heath back into a more of a rotational role. He still going to be important. But maybe you don't have to lean on him as much, and there's just you look at the list names, and it just goes on and you wop fine. All final point. I'm going to say, and we're going to just blow this whole thing. We're going to leave this on a great note. Let's go pay a kicker. I need kicker Matt Bryant sporty three he can start for me. I was I think that that is one, you know, that's the only thing there's a, you know, there's there's some kickers out there. They're all they all they Tom. They always you. Actually, some of them might be older. Yeah. No, Morton Anderson is still active. All right, guys. We're we're done joking with you here. That's all we got for you today. 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Dallas Morning News 9/21/20

The Dallas Morning News

04:28 min | 4 months ago

Dallas Morning News 9/21/20

"Good Morning it's Monday September twenty first I'm Mary Hildebrandt inherited the top stories from the Dallas morning. News brought to you by consumer reports standing for truth fairness and what's right for consumers consumer reports has been on your side. Since nineteen thirty, six with information you can trust on home auto food, health, tech money, and more learn more at R. Dot Org Slash Consumer expect rain today with Tropical. Storm Beta and a high of seventy two tonight will be windy and rainy with a low of sixty to our top story is with attendance announced of one thousand, seven, hundred, eight during yesterday's win over the Falcons the cowboys may lead the League but it was the smallest for Dallas regular season home game in fifty seven years life was much different around the NFL in nineteen, sixty, three and Certainly here where the cowboys were in their fourth year as an expansion team and fighting for just about anyone's attention on the sports scene on November third nineteen, sixty, three Dallas and Washington drew just eighteen thousand eight, hundred, thirty, eight fans in the cavernous cotton bowl that afternoon if you're wondering why such a small crowd, it was about par for the course other than a special Saturday night home. Opener with St? Louis that drew thirty, six, thousand, four, hundred, thirty, two, the cowboys didn't have another crowd of thirty thousand all year. The present situation is much different. Texas is currently in phase three of reopening its economy in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic a stage that allows outdoor stadiums to admit up to fifty percent of its total capacity for sporting events the cowboys average ninety, thousand, nine, hundred. Twenty nine fans during home games. Last season owner Jerry? Jones. Steadfastly deflected questions about how many fans he expects for Sunday's game stressing a safe environment is the overriding concern in other news. This year's North Texas giving day raise nearly sixteen million dollars for area nonprofits announced the Communities Foundation of Texas. The record haul came from over one hundred, thousand donors in all fifty states and twenty six countries. said the foundation in a news release, the money, some of which was raised during the roughly two weeks before Thursday's main giving event will be distributed among three thousand, two, hundred, forty, two nonprofits in a prepared statement foundation president and CEO David Cullen said we are so grateful and in awe of our generous donors, community members, sponsors, and volunteers who once again rose to the occasion for our friends and. Neighbors and highlighted how philanthropic this region is since Marshall, CEO of the Dallas Mavericks and Honorary Co Chair of North Texas giving day. said that the annual fundraising event continues to anchor this community with hope competence and positively thank you to all the generous donors and volunteers that continue to make north. Texas, a wonderful place to work and live and finally from Olympic medalist to super bowl winning quarterbacks. And local radio voices. The DFW area appears fully behind the Dallas Stars in their run to the Stanley Cup final this week Fox sports southwest gathered local athletes, legends, and members of the sports media to record encouraging messages for the stars ahead of Game One Dallas defeated the Tampa Bay lightning four to one taking a one zero lead in the series Nastya Lucan five time Olympic medalist in gymnastics and. Of. Spring Creek Academy in Plano, said, first of all congratulations as a very loyal Dallas Fan, I am so excited to be cheering you on to the Stanley Cup final. We are sending all of our positive vibes, your way and wishing you the very best of Luck Mavericks Point Guard Jalen Brunson said I just wanted to say congratulations on being Western Conference Champs and I want to wish you the best of luck in the Stanley Cup finals go stars the Texas Rangers were, one of many team accounts to send well wishes to the stars and the Dallas Cowboys joined in on the fun with several players including Dak, Prescott Ezekiel. Elliott. And tyron Smith taking time to say good luck the Dallas Morning News rewards program is proud to bring you virtual events for more information and upcoming events. Please visit Rewards Start Dallas News Dot Com for more on these stories and for the latest breaking news visit Dallas News Dot Com. Thanks, and enjoy your day.

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Miami Dolphins: Will Josh Rosen do any better than Ryan Fitzpatrick, Taco Charlton joins the team, and a take on the national media (Phinsider Daily)

The Phinsider

24:52 min | 1 year ago

Miami Dolphins: Will Josh Rosen do any better than Ryan Fitzpatrick, Taco Charlton joins the team, and a take on the national media (Phinsider Daily)

"And hello everybody and welcome. It's you've been Saturday. I am your host for today Matt Canada and seems like the Miami Dolphins every day. There's something new going on team. That's totally newsworthy newsworthy but you wouldn't find in a hopman folk regular season you know when you look back on the years of the Dolphins competing for for a playoff spot or at least thinking they're competing for a playoff spot. You'll know how how well that's worked out over the past decade or so translation hasn't worked out very well at all but they have put out a team to be competitive and and that season it wasn't a lot of drama per se until towards the end you know when things were falling apart art or when they are actually in the hunt which seems like quite often and only to falter an and not make the playoffs but in this season in the season of quote unquote the tank. The Season of the tank twenty nineteen. It just seems like there's just so much around the Miami Dolphins this year and EH. It's great for business. We gives us something to talk about. Every day. It's great for the website and scrape for traffic. It's great for dolphins twitter. It's great for conversation. It's great for everything and it's even going to be great for the future of the dolphins as well but to moves that happened on a Thursday leading into Friday and this show is considerable news. I think especially with the dolphins naming Josh Rosen these starting quarterback of the Miami Dolphins moving forward and why is that significant. We all know why that significant right. I don't need to to sit here and tell you that Josh Rosen starting for the Miami. Dolphins is big news but it's now their chance to see you. What Josh Rosen was in Candu behind center. I know we've seen a lot of talk out. There from fans and media alike saying well. The dolphins already know that Josh Schroeder is not the guy. I don't think you can say that without seeing him. In a game I could have hints of it right. I think you can have some preconceived notions based on what you've seen him seen of him so far between the Arizona cardinals between preseason and between the mop up duty he's been giving in the game aim which is totally not fair to judge on by the way but I think to say definitively that he is not the guy I think that's a disservice disservice to the integrity of the game to the integrity of the dolphins trying to see if he's really is the guy and to Josh Rosen himself so he'll get the start against the Dallas cowboys. He will have the chance to show he is the man I mean the the odds are stacked up against him. anyways regardless of of of who it is because of the poor offensive line. I saw that where I believe Ryan Fitzpatrick was sacked once every ten drawbacks on Sunday against the Patriots. That's obviously not good. What if it's Patrick has good pocket presence Rosen's a little more shifty or not the Nimbus Guy not the fastest guy but he is faster than Fitzpatrick so and we saw some good pocket presence from Rosen in a preseason as well. Let's just hope he's not running for his life the entire game. I don't think it was a dolphins plans to start. Josh Rosen this early but I think they had no choice following the embarrassing losses to both the Ravens in the Patriots and especially because of just the way that the offense could not run against de Patriots. I mean they were absolutely brutal and didn't do much at all and I think during that game I think a half time a lot of the fans were clamoring for Rosen because the dolphins coaches ebbets saying that the only reason why Fitzpatrick was starting was because of the fact that they gave he gave them the best chance to win. Josh Rosen could've just as easily gone three and out three and out three in out in you know when you look deeper. Is it fine fitzpatrick. What's Josh Rosen going to change and so I wanted to take a look at a few next-gen. NFL stats and that really goes beyond your typical vocal box store scoring really tells a better story of what's happening so when you look at Ryan Fitzpatrick right when you look at his next Gen stats assist total time to throw so far which is the time of the time of the from the place. The time of the ball is snapped two time when on the quarterback throws the ball Ryan Fitzpatrick Fitzpatrick comes in. Let's see he comes in. I did have it highlighted at two point nine four seconds okay that is surprisingly pro rate in the top ranked fifth in the NFL which is surprising right the amount of time to throw from the time the ball stem to the time he let's go with the ball and you're like what's. I mean. The offensive line is atrocious. How can Ryan Fitzpatrick have the top five quarterback have two point nine four seconds to throw the ball well it also takes into account rushing rushing not rushing bus scrambling and running away when we've Seen Ryan Fitzpatrick do quite a lot of that the next step is average completed completed air yards and for its Patrick he comes in at seven point eight and again that is towards the upper echelon of the NFL why top five quarterback again with that but because the dolphins are behind so much and they've gotten a lot of negative plays in early scripts of the offense. You're forced to throw the ball a longer. A bit more is intended ear yards which takes into account in the drops in the incompletions and all that twelve point two yards so he he's pretty aggressive and actually his aggressive rating is twenty twenty eight percent and when you filter that out that's actually the most in the entire. Nfl a good four and a half points above Mitch Trubisky who is number two when you go further along and then you start looking at his passer rating right Nassar Ashworth gets a little shaky is the worst in the NFL by far thirty nine point nine his passer rating the next lowest is sixty. I Five Mitch Trubisky. That's that's a huge huge difference. His completion percentage is fifty percent the worst in the NFL his expected completion percentage which again takes into account the drops and so forth. There's not much better. It's fifty eight point three so it's different of eight percentage points but if you're trying to blame the other parts of the offense for that you. WanNa see a higher number. I mean eight point three is pretty high and it is you know one of the largest in the NFL. It's actually third-largest Cam. Newton is minus nine point three Ben Rothlisberger. Mine is nine point. One Jared Goff is minus six point seven Kevin Fitzpatrick there at minus eight point three then you could start telling the story of okay how much fitzpatrick how much is on the receivers so to do that we go to the next. Gen stats receivers and when you look at Devante Parker especially and this is pretty bad. devante parker gets four point seven yards of separation at the line of scrimmage ripe. The defensive backs aren't totally scared of giving him quite a nice cushion. However ever is average separation which is the time he catches the ball and the distance between the nearest defender is one yard one yard that is the the lowest in the NFL. Okay that is on par with guys like Decay Metcalf. Who is I wanted to say a slow but who is more of a I don't know the right word more of a bigger bigger body wide receiver. WHO's not I can kill you with speed. Mike Evans gets one point seven yards of separation again. That's not ideal which is why you have seen him struggling this season but to have one yard of separation. I mean I I mean think about right thinking about one yard so when he catches the ball or when the ball is targeted towards him the closest defender average is one junkyard. This is why Devante Parker is not getting the ball and this is why Ryan Fitzpatrick can't get him the ball either. devante parker is average targeted ear. Your air yards is twenty one point eight okay so we've seen a lot of high point balls. We've seen a lot of deep ball Parker where he's trying to go up and get the ball. That's fine but because he's doing that. He's doing that because he's not getting the separation so we're not seeing him break open in the field his catch percentage tonnage when you look at that is only twenty one point forty three that is the lowest in the NFL when you look at receiving yards seventy five obviously nothing to write home about yards after catch zero point three pretty bad expected yards after catch two yards which is basically how many yards he basically coulda gotten after he called the ball so so again it's just a a mess with devante. Parker and Ryan Fitzpatrick Eric so then you look at a guy like Preston Williams right you look at his next Gen stats. He's getting six and a half yards of cushion at the line of scrimmage judge but his separation is three point one yards which is way better way better than Devante Parker. When you look at his targeted air the yards fifteen point four again the dolphins with Fitzpatrick's aggressiveness rating throws a deep his catch percentage is sixty three point sixty eighty four not terrible not the best but respectable? This is on par with guys like Robert Woods who at sixty sixty six point six seven percent is par with guys like Cole Beasley Sixty nine percent better than guys like Trey Quinn and T- Hodkinson better than guys better than guys like Josh John Ross Cooper Cup even better than so he's right there with that presidents percents yards after catch not the greatest two point two yards his expected yards after the catch is two point eight so he's not getting getting a ton of help from his wide receivers either. You'll get Mike Giseki. His average cushion is four and a half yards. His separation is a much better for point point seven yards. I think that separation stat is huge for the quarterback trying to throw into open lanes and getting them to lead with your body to get yards after the catch. Albert Wilson is going to be able to get on Sunday by all accounts Jackie Brandt France. He is not catching the balls. I mean Josh Rosen that a few deep balls to him in a game against the Ravens dropped Takim. Grant and defenders aren't scared of him. He's getting five point nine yards of cushion at the line of scrimmage. He's getting three point six yards of separation. His is yard after catches better. Five point nine yards expected yard after catch is seven point nine yards again that could be a quarterback but you're not seeing a huge difference so when you look at all that and you factor all that into account it's like okay where where is going to get better house is going to get better. It's not like Fitzpatrick is missing. Listen throws. It's not like he's throwing over. The guy's head's it's not like he's getting sacked because he has no pocket presence. You just has nowhere to throw it because his guys are not getting open and for the guys who do get open either. He's not seeing them or the or the channel. Shave the offense coordinator is not scheming it the right way so hopefully with with another quarterback in there guys. Step it up a baby as you have seen that in the past as well. Maybe a little extra jolt a little burst of energy a little better chemistry mystery. There were guys are playing harder for the guy behind center. We're going to have to see how that shakes out but am I expecting take drastic result with Josh Rosen under center. I'm not unfortunately I wish there was yes because as I said on the group inside radio which released released yesterday. Make sure you check it out. If you have not already it is in the dolphins best interest for Josh Rosen to ball out and lead them to numerous winds and to show the even with the lack of talent around him. This is what he can do because boy if he can do that and if he could lead his team to five six seven wins and with nothing around him the dolphins will have three premium picks. First round picks the next year's draft to build around him. You could get a guy like chase while probably not chase young if you're ruining five six seven games but you can get maybe Jerry Judy if you're picking a top five or seven a wide receiver to give that Nice target for Josh Astros and you can get another attack online you can bolster everything around him and watch him ball out even more basically Jimmy Garoppolo model in San Francisco so rose gets the start he said Chris mentioned this press conference the other day that Rosen admitted to learning more than he's ever learns earns before in the few months that he's been in Miami Dolphin compared to the course of his career so that's I opening and again just another reminder of why the dolphins have not started him had did not really put him out there in key situations only mop up duty because they're trying to protect him but at a certain point it just becomes too much and you have to get the guy in the game because your current star. Patrick is just not doing anything to move the offense moving onto another player who who is going to maybe making his dolphins debut on Sunday. Maybe not maybe inactive is Taco Charlton in a former first round pick in twenty seventeen out of Michigan again across two seasons. He's been basically a first round bus. Which is why he was outright? Released by the Dallas Cowboys Dolphins had the thirteenth waiver claims spots twelve teams passed up on him and now he's a Miami Dolphin over two seasons. He's recorded four sacks eight tackles for loss in twenty seven games. He had a solid preseason. This year tallied two sacks to force fumbles in a fumble recovery but it wasn't enough for the Cowboys Star Him and Taco Charlton earlier earlier in the week tweeted release me or free me or something of that and he ended up deleting it but again just another sense and mm sign that he was obviously not happy in Dallas Dallas granted his wish and now the dolphins may have found the piece that can grow into a legitimate weapon in their defense a pass rusher which dolphins are lacking and the Dolphins Hope for Charlton this year at least it's become a key rotational player in that defense to get some pressure on the quarterback the back to kind of grow into defense and see what they can do with him in the years moving forward obviously it's in his everyone's benefit for Charleston to produce and to turn it around and hopefully a fresh start will do just that's interesting. Now you look at the twenty twenty seventeen draft right. You Got Charles Harris t now you got Taco Charleston on the team. Now both both of them were drafted in two thousand Seventeen Charleston a few spots after Harris. You Got Robert as well who the dolphins have on the inactive list on the pup list right now he was drafted twenty ninth overall by twenty sixteen by the Zona Cardinals. If we've seen some progress on Charles hair is is not a ton of progress but we've seen some nice progress which probably makes them worth keeping next year you saw spurts from John John Jenkins the new Dolphins Defensive Lineman had a nice nice game against the Patriots. If Harris can continue to develop if Charlton turns it around if Kim d'Ici comes out later this season and starts bawling out and John Jenkins along with Christian Wilkins I know that's a lot of ifs but then the dolphins and added pass rusher in the NFL dry twenty twenty a top top top pass rusher. This defensive line can be turned around just as easy as that again. I know it's a lot of ifs but I think we're halfway there with it. You no you got Harrison proving. You've got John Jenkins. I know it's one game but he dominated in when he was given the chance and Christian Wilkins has been holding his own so far you got three. You need to more. Maybe another rotational and you're good. You're good. That's GONNA be interesting to watch. That's going to be exciting to watch. It's going to be actually exciting to watch dolphins on Sunday night only exciting for the half or so but it's exciting because as you're seeing some new guys coming in with Josh Rosen John John Jenkins getting the chance again. I don't Know Charlton play. Maybe inactive needs learn playbook or maybe the dolphins just use them in key situations. God knows they can use another pass rusher regardless of how long they've been with the team moving on from all of that again. I mentioned the season of the tank right and we've seen a lot of national media just bashed the Miami Dolphins. It's actually getting a little tiring but it's also quite comical to see the way they're reacting to the dolphin doing this radical change and this radical strategy and now they say the NFL competition committee is going to investigate the dolphins. I doubt they do anything to the dolphins offense. It's more of a precursor to sang okay. What can we do moving forward to. Brent this kind of thing or is this going to be the standard moving forward. I can guarantee you. There's going going to be a team. I don't know if there's going to be a team that does it as extreme as the dolphins did are doing for Trevor Lawrence but you bet your bottom dollar. There's teams looking at Trevor Lawrence than are saying in a year from now going into next season. We got to do everything we can to get this guy and when you look around the NFL. There are some bad add teens. The bagels are going to give the dolphins a run for their money for the first overall pick and the way that Chris grew structured as roster. It's very hard to win. Games and you can compete for a little bit but ultimately the talent on the other side of the ball is going to win out and it's possible. The dolphins made this roster so bad so so so bad that they just can't win no matter what they do visit talent is just raider. It's like playing I saw the comparisons sunbelt team to an SEC see team. You know the winds are insane. The lines are what you see when Alabama plays a cupcake team over twenty points in the NFL game. That's on a I heard of. That's incredible but here's where we are and listen. We've all said it's going to be painful as heck but it's all worth it. In Two thousand twenty one dolphins rule the off season because you know damn well starting in January. The dolphins are going to own the off season up up through the NFL draft is going to be all about the dolphins and it's going to be glorious so let these teams have their shine. Now Dolphins time is coming up and to all the national national media who are complaining get over it. Please get over it. You haven't talked about the dolphins in years and to think that you have a pulse also the team is laughable and to kind of spin it and to try to get the fans on your side by saying. Oh the fans are better listen. You're right. We deserve better and we are getting better through this tank and I'm very proud of the vast majority of dolphins fans who understand what is going on with the tank who understand understand what is happening and who understands that you need to experience the pain this year to get better in the years moving forward listen. We do deserve better. We've been giving mediocre teams for for the past decade plus. We've been giving bandaids on this team where we've all been crying and screaming for them to do it the right way. We've all been treated to overpriced veterans who have lost luster in the NFL but coaches think they can get them back to where they needed to be. We've all seen it fail over and over and over again and I think we're all glad the dolphins are doing this way as painful as it might. Be This season dolphins. I call this coming Sunday one. PM EASTERN TIME IN DALLAS MIAMI will try to compete against the cowboys. TRY TO COMPETE AGAINST AC Prescott Ezekiel Elliott Amari Cooper. It's not going to be an easy task but their defense didn't prove against the Patriots. We'll see now if their defense can continue to improve and also their offense as well with Josh Rosen under center. We'll be back with another episode of finsider daily on a Monday or Tuesday. I think we're doing now Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday. Yes that's right so we're not during Monday's anymore. 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The Ocho: Can the Cowboys knock off the New England Patriots dynasty?

Blogging the Boys

20:00 min | 1 year ago

The Ocho: Can the Cowboys knock off the New England Patriots dynasty?

"Nona. What up world? Welcome to another episode of the Ocho presented in partnership, as always Espy nations blogging, the boys dot com. Name are Joe, you know, me, of course, from BTV and from right here as your host on the Ocho. You can listen to us on all major podcast platforms. Make shoes subscribe rate and review. Those things really help us out. So we really appreciate them. Happy friday. It is Friday may thirty first two thousand nineteen and I know I know we promised you Dallas Cowboys starting left guard Connor Williams a quick programming note. Connor is actually now rescheduled to join us on Mondays episode of the show so you can start your week off next week with Connor Williams. So in an effort to obviously get another episode out because that's what we do here on the Ocho. We had to make a pivot like Ross in the friends episode. I love that episode. We had to call an audible, we had to figure something else out. And so I thought you know what let me get my friend Jimmy. I mean literally my friend, Jimmy. If you've listened to the old, RJ Osho my very first podcast. Joe show, which was very creatively named you'll remember that Jimmy came on from time to time Jimmy's a buddy of mine from a long time ago. We went to Texas together and Jimmy's a great football mind. And certainly somebody that's a lot of fun to have a conversation with. So Jimmy does not do well with hot takes, and with big fins, and on, on Thursday night, we had a little subject, come around subject. Come hit the internet from Adam shine where he talked about teams that were, you know, had the best chances of dethroning the New England Patriots dynasty, and he ranked the Cowboys pretty high. So I thought that was quite interesting. So Jimmy comes in, we talk about it. We debate it. And we figure out just kind of, you know how bright the future of the Dallas Cowboys really is. And how fair it is to consider bride or not. So without further ado. Let's get this Friday party started. Jimmy gel Seth. No, my buddy, my friend, Jimmy. That's our new segment here on the show. My friend, Jimmy joins us next here on the job. Pleased to be joined now by a good friend of mine. I think you can call anybody who's asked you to be in their wedding. A good friend, old school RJ Osho listeners will remember this guy. I remember him 'cause like I said, he's an actual friend of mine this start bringing them around every once in a while, and call these, these episodes my friend, Jimmy. This is literally my friend, Jimmy, Jimmy JAL Cessna James. How are you? I'm doing. Good man. How are you doing? Well, I know that the little people kind of sprung this on you last second jump on the pod. You are actually we used to say on the large Osho resident Houston Texans experts. But I've brought you here to talk specifically about the Dallas Cowboys is this anything like our normal friendship and the things I do. Yes, you always prize me in a very good pleasant way. So I'm used to it. Okay. Good. So James, your name, I do saw time your name's not James, but it's kind of Jono as whatever I wanted to have you on the joke. I know. But we get the joke. That's what matters. So have you on the end of this week, you texted me during game, one of the NBA finals? And you said, oh, we'd never talked about the implications at this could have for the Spurs 'cause I'm I guy if if the raptors would win because coli whatever obviously, this is the first time the warriors are facing a non cab steam in the finals and the raptors. And they want game one. Everybody's all excited because this is a potential, you know, dethroning of king in the warriors, whatever this Jimmy, inspired Adam shine. Adam shine road, something for NFL dot com on Thursday. I wrote about this at blog on the boys dot com. If you are listening, you wanna see you can head there. But Jimmy so shine wrote about teams that could de thrown the patriots dynasty, in the NFL, obviously, we're talking about a team that's been at three straight Super Bowls wants to them. I mean there has speaks for itself. Tim number one. Do you have any guests who it is the team that could dethrone the patriots dynasty? Across the NFL, correct. Correct. If I had to guess I'm going to team with a young quarterback that's been very promising. I have to go with the chiefs and Patrick Mahomes. Okay. So congratulations to me, really smart. You got different. Okay. Cool. Tim number two, Adam shines ranking in terms of teams that he believes could dethrone the patriots dynasty who do you think is number two on that list? I'm gonna go with the cold. Ooh. Andrew luck. The colts are on this list, there actually number six, but they are not number two. Number two, Jimmy the loss Angeles. Chargers, one of the teams amazing that the two teams here are the teams the patriots beat on their way to Super Bowl fifty three, you know. You know, obviously these students had their shot and couldn't put up, but it is what it is. Number three, who is number three on the list. Trying to work my way through the NFL. It's gotta be a team with the younger quarterback, it can't be the saints with drew Brees 'cause they're probably gonna retire the same time in Brady and this is tough. Go with the Packers. Aaron Rodgers by the way, this is truly an example of literally how last-second I sprung this on you, but I appreciate it. No, not the Green Bay Packers. In fact, I don't even know if the Packers they are on this. Let's their number eight there are nine teams on this list. So Kohl's at six Akers at eight number three, the highest ranked NFC teams Jimmy the Dallas Cowboys, that's why I want to have you on because you do not do well with takes like this. And so I wanted to know what you thought this is just one person's have been about the Cowboys being the team that could be thrown. The patriots dynasty highest ranked NFC team minder and also worth pointing out number four is the Los Angeles Rams who the patriots just beat in the Super Bowl. And number five is the Philadelphia Eagles so of these top five teams you've got the chiefs chargers Rams eagles Cowboys in their eagles. The only one to beat them in. A playoff game significant second both to. So your thoughts on the Cowboys being ranked so high. Okay. So I'm a little bit troubled by this not trying to be a hater or anything like that. But is the let me guess is the conversation is about who will be next nine Issey or just the dynasty to Detroit on the patriot. It's more so the ladder and so I guess that's that's worth a sort of defining for the purposes of conversation. Like if you took all of these teams I guess they had to play a game against the patriots that might be how Adams kind of looking at this. There's an argument at the very least to be made. The Cowboys have the best shot the argument he lays out before you freak out on me because you do that a lot. Is the Cowboys can can run the ball. They can play defense and typically when you're talking about beating any team that's the formula every looks. Oh, they can run the ball and then keep the ball away from Tom Brady. And then they can saw on defense. That's why Adam shine seemingly believes in the Cowboys so much. All right. Well, I'm gonna have to disagree with them and a few different points. Here's or various me number one just whatever the game plan the Cowboys could put together both on offense and defense. What is Bella check no four for taking away? What you're the best at taking away your best weapons and making them irrelevant. And we've seen it before we in this happened to the Cowboys before, this ration- where, you know, they've been outsmarted, and I do know there is a lot of questions about how I don't know how to say this, well, but how competent or how great Jason Garrett really is. When it comes to the Xs and os to have time adjustment. You know that's point patriots point for some of these other teams that we're talking about like the cheese and chargers and whatnot. So I don't think they're built to win that kind of match up. I don't think Jason garish the kind they can go and outsmart Bill Bella check. And I guess the other big. Glaring part of this is that we haven't seen continued success with the Jason Garrick that Prescott Ezekiel Elliott iteration of the Cowboys have one playoff win to playoff appearances. And even in two of these playoff games or do three playoff games. They've had the offense have been kinda shut down for a half against the Packers and a half against the Rams or so. And I don't know. We haven't seen longterm success. We've seen hiccups along the way we have questions about how great deck and be. And then we have Jason Garrett controlling everything. I do find it strange that somebody would say that the team that could do, this would be, you know, that somebody would rent the cow was higher than I mean you can make the argument, if you really wanted to Cowboys versus eagles, again, even though despite the fact that eagles literally beat the patriots SuperBowl, but I mean, I think if you had to pick an NFC team, it would be the Rams. Like now, it'd be or a lot of people go, a lot of people would lean bears. Although certainly Mitchell Trubisky is big question, Mark. You know, the Seahawks are always kind of the conversation that I think you'll get some, some weird people going cardinals space stop. Hey, I don't know if he's still on Friday. People are comparing Cuyler Morita, Pat Mahomes, that was super unpredictable, Mariah. AO. Yeah, that's gonna happen. Unfortunately. Go ahead, John. Yeah, there's definitely been examples. I mean we've seen the patriots in the Super Bowl how many types seven now. What Tom Brady and Bill check eight times on even know anymore, but we've seen lots of these mats a man, I hate that. That's a high number. Yeah. But you know, obviously he's getting older. But just know tasks couple of Super Bowl. If you've seen him in the Rams had the defense that could hold them to a low scoring game thirteen points. I believe in the last Super Bowl. But unfortunately for the Rams know Todd Gurley and that kinda, you know their offense work through him. So even with the defense being dominant that game against Tom Brady and Bill Bella chat like holy cow holding Venta person points in the Super Bowl, you have to win that game. But the offense wasn't clicking Gurley was pretty much gone. Well, so that they down and everything else that brings on a new question for me, then we've kind of gotten away from, you know, the team that could be turned the patriots. But you and I we were talking, we were tech. So that they were talking about triplets in the NFL cetera. Who's a better set of triplets? Jared Goff Todd Gurley Brandin cooks are Dak Prescott. Zeke Elliott in Amari Cooper in terms of on the field abilities. I mean, if I barely give the edge to the Cowboys barely well, so you could argue I guess, that Zeke and girly are a bit of a wash when girlies healthy but his health is obviously, quite and I mean to a degree you could almost Goth and dagger awash. Obviously, you know, people have their questions about that price, whatever. I don't think there's any district that America a better overall wide receiver than Brandin cooks up I'd agree. If you saw eighty percent of what Amari when he was with the Cowboys. If you saw him in eighty percent of that kind of production. He is a better player than what Brandin cooks is. I mean Jared Goff I probably get in the edge over Jack barely and, you know, on the other side of that I'd probably give when girly is healthy. I'd give adds to the Cowboys which week but going to bring it all back. If you're that's like the crux of your team. Right. I mean there's more components football team. The right. But that's like that's the crux of because as an offensive game into whatever. And so obviously, Sean McVeigh is a way different factor for the Rams and Jason grits for the Cowboys. But that's why I mean it sounds ridiculous. When you say out loud, I think like the copies of the Rams. But when you when you start to peel, the layers back, all I'm saying it's not the, the wildest take of ever heard. There's, there's legitimate merit to that idea. That's all I'm saying. There is. But I think logically, speaking, if you were to see that matchup this coming season obviously, the betting favorite is going to be the patriots. I think they just all. Board is the matchup you're talking about. Yeah. Patriots Cowboys, we will see them back to ED's kind of support November twenty four. I don't wanna knock your confidence or anything. So November twenty fourth Cowboys patriots. You're you're already taking the patriots. Yes. But even if the Cowboys were to win a game like that we know patriots in the postseason completely different monster. And you either have to have like what the Rams did to be in the game. You have to have a dominant defensive performance, which they did have or like the previous patriots Super Bowl. You have to have an amazing offense of performance which the eagles did. So I don't know if the Cowboys offense can ever get to that level. So then don't know if they can. I don't they can in the playoff. I agree with that point. So say hypothetically Cowboys patriots men, suitable fifty four in Miami in you. You have to get one of these herculean performances. Right. You either have to get the herculean offense. Like you said, like, really had are the herculean defensive one like LA hat, which is more likely to come from the two thousand nineteen cows. I'd have to say it all I noticed a little bit of a cop out, but it would all depend on what we can do. And what's unique about the Cowboys when they've been successful Zeke is moving that ball. The offense is moving as a result. The play actions open, blah, blah blah and helps stack in the passing game. And then the defense they've got fresh legs on the field is much you can dominate the clock and that has been when the Cowboys are at the bet their best that is the formula to winning. But we've seen it several times over the past three seasons that if you can stop, see if you can just kinda shut them down get them off their game especially early in games. The Cowboys haven't routinely been able to overcome that adjust at halftime. Make any of those kinds of judgments Amari Cooper is obviously kind of wild card because we saw the Cowboys offense. And we saw. That Prescott reach a level inefficiency that they haven't really reached before that. Sure. Well, but I'm everything goes through Zeke. Well, so, ultimately, I think having the conversation like ping pong around, it's fair to consider the Cowboys. I mean if the conversation is which teams can dethrone the patriots? If you're assuming then that, one team can it's fair to consider Cobb was among the contenders, which is really kind of where we started here. James, we'll bring you back at some point later this summer. I know that you're very excited to watch what you're Houston Rockets to agency. You're super glued to that. That's all you care about in the world. I know that. But the last thing you go today. Gimme a way too. Premature prediction on the Cowboys record into the nineteen ten and six in two thousand eighteen so what do they do? Way too. Premature, I'm gonna go at nine and seven. Wow. But as we know what your division it changes every year and nine and seven to possibly win it. Wow. What are the Texans gonna finish? How about that? Let's put you on the spot there. I'd probably go with eight eight one either one Jimmy Gialle Cessna my fellow Aggie, my friend. Again, Jimmy had me in his wedding. If you're trying to measure, whether you're a better friend than he is or not, you know, that's, that's where the bar was set. You know, I'm just I'm just saying not only were you in my wedding, but my five groomsmen three of them are family. So very select group of people, although you're not like family. But, you know, although I had to walk out I on never forget that and not like in your number one groomsmen way, like in your number five because we're going in ascending order. So I had to walk out in front of all of Jimmy's family completely by myself in isolated. That's the island. So are you never happy? Can you never be happy? Come on. Thanks. Jimmy will have you on against it enough? Shoutout. Once again, to Jimmy gel, Seth Nefer joining us here on the Ocho presentative in partnership is always with espionage blog on the boys dot com. Jimmy really literally is my friend. That's why we call that segment my friend Jimmy on Twitter at the Jimmy gel. I believe is getting really upset because I don't know that out the top of my head. He's supposed to be my friend. Jimmy's wedding was really nice. I mean, you know, two years ago now I think I think two years ago. Congratulations, Jimmy Whitney so two year anniversary coming up in July. Hey sorry. Again apologies supposed to have govern. We were today that had to get pushed back, not government sorry about that goodness gracious. I'm all over the place. We were supposed to have Connor Williams today on Friday, and we will have him on Monday. We have been assured. So get ready to start your week with the starting valves Cowboys left guard enjoy your weekend. Enjoy the Champions League personally, I think Liverpool's pulling it down. Enjoy the NBA finals team petty again. I'm a Spurs fan. So my allegiances are obvious. Go America go warriors enjoy that game on Sunday. Enjoy the memorial tournament going on lots of great sports. Enjoy the first weekend of June. Whatever you got going on. We hope that is fantastic. You deserve a rip roaring good time. So we hope that's what happens. I if you were wondering feeling better, I don't really feel sick. More. So that's good news for me the news for you, if you care about that it is what it is. Thanks Jimmy for joining us. We'll be back next week. Enjoy your weekend, everybody. We will see you many Yana. My friends is always go Cowboys and peace app.

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Season Saved: Can the Cowboys Keep Jerry Jones' Dream Alive?

ESPN Daily

19:57 min | 1 year ago

Season Saved: Can the Cowboys Keep Jerry Jones' Dream Alive?

"The cowboys stopped the bleeding tonight but they did it with a decisive statement now time is out and the Cobbler's Pete Needles thirty seven to ten Dallas might have saved their season last night but even after thirty seven to ten feet down not all is right Jerry dangerous than a run in with a bear I mean times and this has been E._S._p._N. daily I'll talk to you tomorrow leaves what he's saying about Jason Garrett there I'm not so sure that I believe him I think that Jerry is grading Jason Garrett on a very generous curve he wants Jason Garrett to succeed in the worst possible way this is a guy that jerry views almost as a prodigal chip game maybe even win it for him to get an extension but this hot seat talk Jerry is not GonNa Fire Jason Garrett during the season I would be stunned I mean it's October twenty first and this is espn daily presented by indeed Jerry how much of this percent according to our FBI index instead it's sixty four point four percent do you think Jerry believes this was a big game that saved the season any strong proclamations about what this means for the cowboys season he touted the team's high energy but did it in a very low energy measured on and he has let him dangle this year is in the final year of his contract as you said I think that Jason Garrett needs to at least make the NFC champion and I think Jerry Jones is coming to grips with the fact that the preseason predictions he made that this is the best team since the glory era game it's one we need but I think it's a game that they knew they were GonNa win look the cowboys are atop the NFL Dell's worst division by far they started the season off great they beat the giants Redskins and dolphins but then they lost to the saints packers and of course the jets almost muted way down I'm surprised to hear you describe him as muted one because it's very jones but also because this was a huge game oh Jerry Jones you have spent a lot of time with him you've written about him you've sat at various hotel bars with him do think he actually believe he was not extended so there's been a lot of speculation about him but obviously with this win his seat has cooled somewhat Don Unit mid-nineties Cowboys Super Bowl teams I think he's coming to grips with not an elite team and even though they crushed the eagles tonight and a really impressive way now back at my hotel room I was just at. At and T. stadium it's Kinda crazy night here there's tornadoes touched down in Dallas this evening the scrawl that happens because there's really no era parent there's no obvious successor that could take Jason Garrett's place the way Jason Took Wade Phillips as place the last time mm for Jerry Jones was fascinating as usual about three dozen of US leaned in with our cell phones to hear what he had to say after the game he was not willing to me we'll you can't separate coach from the person many people scoffed when they heard that right I mean Jason Garrett is on the last year of his contract this is just one game and how much did is an affirmation of all the things you think you've built well I think it's one game ESPN's Don van Natta was on the scene right had the biggest swing in playoff implications of any game on Sunday if Dallas had lost their chances of making it to the postseason would have dropped to twenty six point seven I think it will get a lot more difficult and it sort of emphasizes two things one is that Jerry Jones I think has finally realized you can't make Jerry Jones fired a coach mid season back in twenty ten some eagles fans point out on twitter that yes it was a horrible loss but the silver lining for them was it might have saved. It's only going to get a lot tougher from here a few days ago Jerry sounded supportive of head coach Jason Garrett there are so many things Jayson occurred we're too although they could franchise him maybe the let him walk but they already have a bunch of highly paid stars on this team so in some ways a quick hit decisions when it comes to signing some high profile player this going to solve all the cowboys problems he's tried that for years and his always yes this is a wonderful victory it keeps them in the running but the fact that they're going to have to pay all of these players is only going to make life more difficult for Jerry Jones after the season though using guards job the other thing that struck me about this game was Dak Prescott was amazing they are going to pay him a lot of money and possibly Amari Cooper well you know I mean I saw Jerry on the field prior to the game had a chance to visit with them and catch up with him and he admitted that he was nervous he said this is a big the same issues with that Prescott and and Amari Cooper but Jerry Jones said tonight in the scrum and he has said at other times that he these guys tougher next season we'll be back in a moment at Espn daily covering the greatest sports stories at indeed dot com slash ESPN daily and try skills tests for free that's indeed dot com slash espn daily terms conditions and exclusions apply in history. We know what makes Dream Team and when you're hiring for your business you need the recruits that will become champions that's why you need indeed for Your Business Albouy Mediocrity the eight seasons failed free agency signings busted draft choices and Jerry knows that the cowboys three Super Bowl trophy failed so now they're trying to do the more patient thing and be careful with the way they handled Ezekiel Elliott in the off season with his contract and now they have that's exactly what Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones did today Jimmy Johnson is out as Dallas head coach and veteran Dallas columnist Randy Galloway but this season in particular means everything every season that ends with cowboys heartbreak is another year removed from Dallas indeed will help you find the best playmakers for your business with tools like online skills tests that help candidates show the perfect hire for you post your next job deeper with Jerry than what Galloway said the Jerry wants to be known as a football guy and so winning a super bowl on his terms as general manager Don why does this season mean so much to Jerry Jones will mean a every season matters a lot to Jerry Jones without Jimmy Johnson calling the shots is the last thing that Jerry has left approve Andy thought going into this season that this team had the best shot to win it couple of decades ago more than anything Jerry Jones wants to be known as a football guy and of all the criticism that's been leveled against Jerry Jones over the years nothing cut stretching as long as Jerry Jones has had we're talking about nearly a quarter of century actually who still has a job and he knows he's got a very keen sense of the clock of his own mortality there are fewer and fewer chances left to win it all Jerry is now worth an estimated it's absolutely crushed him he's frustrated he's angry he's heartbroken Meena I don't think a lot of people realize this but Jerry takes every Argon get paid he is going to pay them and find a way to do it but this year may be their last best shot for the Super Bowl because as you say mean it's going to get a lot eight point five billion dollars and the thing that he wants most of the world is the only thing he can't buy so coming into this season the cowboys cowboys glory back in the early and mid nineteen ninety s we're coming up on a quarter of a century as we all know Jerry isn't just the owner general manager you might think it was pretty unusual to replace the coach who led your team to back to back super bowl championships before the season for America's team he was absolutely certain all the winning pieces were in place Dak Prescott Ezekiel Elliott Amari Cooper and you know he made that the only way to re array solve it is another super bowl title and there's something going on here pass Roger Goodell As the most powerful most influential person an American sports I really believe that he's done it through business savvy innovation mystic but his optimism this year really seemed to be legit one thing I find interesting about Jerry is defeat in a deeply personal way we all like to sort of make jokes that he's all about the money's all about the dollars and cents I think the Jerry Jones cares more these were won by teams built largely in the early nineteen nineties by Jimmy Johnson his college roommate and teammate at Arkansas now declaration by the way with the holdout you know Zeke down and Kabo and yet he still was saying you know we've got all the pieces for this incredible run a lot of his team can accomplish this year as ever been in the twenty nine years we've been with the Dallas cowboys so he set the sky high expectations about how his team plays an NFL owner perhaps any owner in all of sports but think about it is their general manager and sports who's had a run a facility as the cowboys themselves team has stagnated his own prominence in the League has risen no yeah it's kind of weird dynamic discount Robert Kraft in two thousand eleven during the collective bargaining agreement on negotiations with the owners took a sort of a front seat during those negotiations aw in years how do you think this stretch of futility has affected him personally oh it's crushed him the triplets of the early nineties I think the Dallas Cowboys have a formula that can take them all the way Jerry's always optimistic he's always over optimal interesting Rivalry with Robert Kraft Jerry Jones was the first of the to make it to the hall of fame in two thousand seventeen I began by hurts were agreeing with them that his team actually finally might be the one to win that elusive super bowl. This Dallas cowboys team is the most talented team they had said Xi'an he's constantly dividing new ways to as he puts it grow the pie it's one of those Jerry `Isms we all love always talking about growing the Pie and the Harry turns seventy seven years old last Sunday is now a year older than the ages father pat was when he died back in nineteen ninety-seven and PA that their partners and I don't think that Damore Smith believe that in two thousand eleven but Jerry Jones as I said so he's more powerful than Roger Goodell he's also more powerful than Robert Kraft at this point I think so has really been the dominant person in the room on the owner side with Goodell in these negotiations jerry and many of his fellow owners you know they were thought of as a as a real contender so do you think given all of that he saw this year in particular as his opportunity to finally fulfill that dream he did and aren't CBA negotiations what sort of moves has he made well what he's done is he's been able to persuade demorris Smith the head of the NFL on as the cowboys continued to flounder Jerry Jones just keeps amassing more and more power and influence and league domination Jerry Jones I believe has if you remember back in August at training camp in Oxnard Jerry Jones touted the team as the best cowboys team since the mid nineteen ninety s I'm excited about what any of so much power and influence mean is that he's earned the respect of his fellow owners by finding ways to put more and more money in their pockets Goodell I think that Roger Goodell takes a lot of cues from what Jerry Jones wants what Jerry Jones is seeing as the future of the League Jerry Jones Has Ryan wanted in eighteen game regular season but the players flatly said no but by Wooing Smith I think that Jerry now is close to get the city of Canton I hope there's some cowboy hat you can bet that Robert Kraft feels that he deserves a place there a great question that's the thing that actually confounded me the most when I did my Jones profile a few years ago is I wanted to figure out whether is a fifty three to forty seven split on total revenues favoring the owners D has been working hard to get that number closer to fifty fifty my information for people have been in Chicago our parks nearby negotiating with the Players Association about Our Future Labor Agreement when it comes to power and say that about eighty to ninety percent of his time on the job is focused on football that only about ten to twenty percent that was yes but I heard pretty think those things are connected in any way that his focus on growing the pie and making the NFL bigger has come at the cost of his team sixteen and eighteen they'll shave off one preseason game we may not see this until twenty twenty two but the way Jerry did it is he basically pledged to split read so it sounds like his legacy as a league operator is going to supersede his lexi as GM football guy gazelles ear and listened to him and respects his views particularly on business I think as much or more than anybody in the League you said Jerry's taken the lead on the curb then got a ten year deal Jerry Jones during the current CBA has sort of muscle pass craft is now the person in the seat about every Monday or Tuesday renew with the players from an added regular season game if the players agree to that what percentage of the revenue are the owner is willing to grant players and across the Board Meena which is kind of interesting was that people said that Jerry was really always focused on how to make the Dallas cowboys better and again I mean as we talked about the room is that it's more going to be closer to fifty to forty eight I don't think the players are ever going to get fifty fifty split again and look the revenues talking about where nearly twenty five years now of mediocrity of you know of the team I think since nineteen ninety six the cowboys are the cowboys were hurt by Jerry's obsession with growing the pie you know he's a natural at being a businessman core processors running your own small business is a big challenge but with the right partner it's a lot easier to speak with an advisor today call eight seven seven by Dell always are one hundred ninety seven hundred seventy seven they've won seven division titles but they're four in ten in the playoffs and not once since nineteen ninety-six have been visors can recommend tailored security solutions like servers storage networking plus right now get up to forty five percent off select business computers within is going to go up by at least fifty percent and I think he's persuaded the players look forty eight percent of that as a lot of money these salary caps are going to skyrocket out maybe not that surprising because his legacy hangs in the balance but it's kind of remarkable when you think about the record you know as we yes that is the secret the secret sauce of being a general manager for twenty five years with a record Jerry Jones has is that you own the team Dan finding ways to make more money he's not proven to be a natural as a football guy but everybody I asked even people that are not huge Jerry Jones fan continuing to rise we're going to have a new TV and streaming contracts in twenty twenty two jerry has publicly said that the seven point two billion dollars a year the league gets from the network thanks John we'll be back in a moment when it comes to keeping your small businesses valuable information safe Dell small business technology in a seventeen game regular season the idea of expanding the season did gain a lot of traction among a certain group of owners here over the past few months a compromise between borrowed from the Alliance of American football rip outside of that the only suggestion I have is that teams do what they've been doing on offense over the last few years and borrow from college okay something extraordinary happened to the NFL I'm not talking about Lamar Jackson scrambling for over one hundred 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Hour 2: Priorities

First Take

42:17 min | 1 year ago

Hour 2: Priorities

"Right let's walk into the shell hip. Hop artists in miami data boss rick ross your new album report of miami to released today congratulations on the rose look at that on the table bridge branch all right though because if it was sunday we just put some orange juice in it with roses so it's all good drink orange you through with you can as you can never heard of that. We might have to try that needs to be named rosa close to most of the club. I would tell you this though so i'm excited to have you here i know port of miami to is going to be a classic but number nineteen on the first quarter. Miami prayer was on my playlist from oh six two more team when retired those i appreciate you forgive me right gates. Oh most definitely port of miami to because i got a record on title i still pray same imagery special. Well rick rick ross. We know you're a native of miami. You're a fan of the heat also dolphins but little do people know you're also also patriots fan house. I work out huge patriots fan. This is something that was you know i love windows and that connection that might versus new england hanging out in new york once ran into mr craft and we you know we kicked bosses rig. That's that's. That's has not allowed man to teams period. You don't get to be a sports bigamist. Which is all about monogamy here you born to your team stinks. Here's the muscle floyd what adults not the dolphin as well as my team more important when we had dan marino don shula the greatest this quarterback in the greatest coach in the history of the bali with you. You're not that big a fan. You you gotta understand. The signs is home. Home is home the first coach in the history to win three hundred games. Okay denied it. I'm not even joking. You can't be patriots. Dolphins fan base against every rule i should i mean ross gets his own rules. I get all that. This isn't even to team. This is same division you like the k. d. fans you've got you. You know. I'm really just boils down to me. Being a fan of great patient quarterback and no quarterback had ed more passing yards and less running is dan dan marino which is really a crown for him to wear on his head and of of course we know what brady brady back. He'll be back once again twenty twenty one so he agrees with me that brady's not gonna play anywhere goes wouldn't mind that right brady. Come down a little. The legacy is in your home. They break real quick for move onto the put them to the test right because we had a we had a play last year we had a we had a game. Did we not dolphins pay. You guys have that when this happened right here. I don't know if we have this play. Just tell me where were you. Which pom pom were you holding up all the harrison waving during this may right here. This is easy because roseanne is also businessman. What tell me about it become a boss. That's how you become a boss for business. You bet on the patriots. Even oh man home legs crossing. I'm loving the weather in miami. I would put my money on your page. You're <hes> you're disappointed in that dolphins win right. They're disappointed. Steve disappointed things looking at issues. We should be a little bit. The patriots are going to do this season. I believe in the foundation. Still you know we got a quarterback steel. Mr kraft's student longest mr mr mr kraft's so you so so we always we know you two biggest boss like you've been working so i don't know about biggest boss right. Just just literally jobs secretively his boss so when you look at football who do you think is the boss of you had to pick one player. You'd like that's the biggest boss. Would it be right now. If i picked one player that i will be when my m._b._a. In the position i must say that running back from dallas now this is this something about myself in negotiation mexico right now. If you're zeke elliott's the way no your committee out lemon pepper wings yeah so we still eat wings. Even though we in the gym of course okay we'll build muscle right he. Does you know you wanna ask him about more big. I i ran into you up in connecticut when you came e._s._p._n. Last time right there and you and you guys <hes> we were out there in the courtyard and you put me. Hey hey top-five n._f._l. Uh-huh quarterbacks all right so i think i rattled off five quarterbacks and you said you said what not what about. This guy who you think is a top five quarterback all time. I told you the only one that's ever won a chinchilla own aside land the only one so it doesn't even matter what he did on the field the fact that he did that showed you all. You need to see first of all of you a quarterback who hasn't won a super bowl. Your stats don't even matter okay. It boils down. If you haven't won a ring it boils down to how nice you look at that because you know how you carry yourself yourself because if you could be joe nemeth a laissez <hes> let me think of a quarterback tech mobile my favorite football game. Let's say if you could be joe name. It's bernie kozo who i had the one thousand nine hundred you back into a dead bernie bernie name. Let me tell you something. If you meet joe nemeth or troy aikman one had a little more flair style joe of course troy had three super bowl rings and of course because like i said i'm a businessman a moroccan troy perry today. No the chinchilla gets another quarterback. That didn't have a ring. You would have to uh-huh sit down. Joe joe has his covered call. Did he was going to have his most definitely wooded chill on when he did that was swaggie speaking of soi. We gotta talk about dwayne wade. What was your favorite moment of. Dwayne wade's career is too many to name. Probably we got. We got three rings and you know he turned out entire city around where we actually. I can't believe you know miami hate once so so for us the began call them that way. Yeah that meant more than words could even translate laura important to you from basketball standpoint lebron james or dwayne wade in my doubt dwayne wade without a doubt. It's dwayne way was in. They're lebron wouldn't have came to my and you know what special i think. Wait as well giving the reins to lebron that takes something special class rewrite classic. Take your class to bring them into the family and let them know you gonna take more minutes than feed you that rocket also that you're you're going to be the face and d- way did that with class and that's why we're never will be number one well since you are the biggest boss we're going to do a little. The biggest boss segment is going to be the biggest boss team wise in the n._f._l. This season team worse equally. Pick one this one. I will you know <hes>. Let me switch. You know what i'm gonna do once again. It's called loyalty. I i must say tom brady so to get it against the patriots. Get it again yup. I love i love making history. What would make more history than atri. It's go betty. How much how much do we need to see. Maybe i'm kind of tired of seeing you. Just don't want to see more. You gotta respect the winning gotta irrespective jewelry. He likes fact. The rings retired more difficult. Thank you so much for coming on board with us. I was going to ask you what iraq game was the biggest boss but you clearly are the biggest and only boss do you so much for miami to out today. Go check ask johnny twig offset when he was three and from that day on he was hooked all he wanted to do was gulf gulf gulf. He'd be on the links before school. After after schools. All he ever wanted was to go pro and then one day when he was holding his grandson and thinking about his twelve handicap johnny realized it. It just might not happen for him but you know what did happen for him. He switch to geico and saved a bunch of money on car insurance. So that was good and sell was hanging out with his grandson. Some were coming to you live from above the heineken river deck at pier seventeen. I'm charlie arnold joined by two amazing fellas right here in the studio. We super bowl champion n._f._l. Analyst ryan clark also hosted the show will canes. Let's jump right back into our next topic. We have equal elliott. He is still oh not in cowboys campuses holds out for a new contract his teammates dak prescott tamari cooper also looking for new deals with all three looking to be among the highest paid need at arab positions. Well big question here with the cowboys. E better off making all three. The highest paid players position or letting all three walk as much deals much choice here. You know what you're going to my choice is making all three the highest paid player position. I think about that no highest highest paid or goodbye haji while i'm gonna pay those men. I'm gonna come them on. Zoe's homer dude u._k. Let beat him that i just said. Do you like that. You cannot let them walk. This is the core of the cowboys franchise. These three guys plus this offensive line. That's what this team is. If this team is going to accomplish anything it is built around that core that prescott ezekiel elliott and now amari cooper along along with martin and frederick smith this is it man and that's the whole project now. I don't think they should be paid at the top of their position not all three three of them in fact probably only one of them when it's all said and done get the highest dollar for their position and that's zeke elliott that prescott and amari cooper come in and probably from what reports we've heard as top five paid quarterback and wide receiver in the n._f._l. Cowboys more importantly ryan don't have to do it. They don't have to accept the question. That charlie just presented to me. They don't have to make these guys. All the top paid played their position and in fact the one that has the least leverage to get accomplished ezekiel elliott. He has so little leverage in this vote. Now he is seemingly taking all the bad lessons of bell and doubling down on like no matter how much we want to apologize josh flavian and there's a lot of guys that do made less money if he'd taken the deal that the steelers had offered to him he played the franchise tag played into a new free agent contract. He doesn't more money today than he did. Got from the jets and zeke is look at all that and saying. I like that plus. The cowboys have control of for. I don't know two three four more years. He's not not going to get reset the market top dollar money he made me the highest paid running back but it's going to be in line with todd gurley. Cowboys don't have to make this choice. That charlie puts me but if they have to. Do you keep these guys listen. I know you know your texas guy right and i know you know this song. These boots are made for walking because that's just what they'll they would do if i had to make all of these guys that top paid at their position you know you know we make this easy on me. It's too easy for me to answer that question russian which like you said the dallas cowboys faced with. I wouldn't even make them all top five eight. You'd walk. I wouldn't i talk to live way. Hey have now because they keep grabs. Here's what you're going to have right ezekiel elliott. Who is the one guy i think from what he's produced should be near the top. I will put him in between utah girly and levian bill. He wouldn't be the highest paid guy right but i make it very fair for him and he would get his money. Then prescott dak prescott has the the fall for me on a yearly basis somewhere below. What tom brady is going to make this. Oh we're mad over mad because my quarterback is gone where that tom brady's. Contract is not factored into the market. It's an hour and your what we believe. Things it out it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't factor into the market of how we're paying that. I'm just saying on the amount of money i would give him. I wouldn't make him a twenty five million dollar guy i would keep him somewhere between between twenty and twenty three and what i'm saying is i'm willing to go to twenty three to just keep them around but that doesn't put them in the top five right that doesn't even come close right now. It does put them. I'm in the top five but that's still a lot of money. That's a lot of money for what you've done that. What have you done not the not taking us to the a._f._c. championship right typical but but here's the other here's the other thing here. Here's the problem with the dak prescott ezekiel elliott amari cooper situation we usually happen is when these quarterbacks get paid this this big money. You don't get super bowls right because you can't build teams around him. You can't have the people around him that helps them to succeed so it's when when you have jared goff right it's where you have carson wentz. It didn't he's replaced by nick. Foles is when you have russell wilson on his rookie contract well. We've had deck for three years. He's been to the super bowl back off of it. We need to the n._f._c. championship so okay. You want to hear what his dak done well. He's won the division n._f._c. East two out of three years. He's made the playoffs two out of three years. His reported down year was a nine seven record for the dallas cowboys. This guy has one at the highest levels in terms of win loss awesome percentage over the first three years that you can put up in anybody's career any n._f._l. Quarterback he's right there among the top with him. In fact almost every statistical category outside of yards per game dacca's his right there his stats show. He is a franchise quarterback in order to keep a franchise quarterback ryan. You can't rank them like you just did you can't say well. I think he's about the tense ends twelve best quarterback in the league pay accordingly you pay when the market is up and right. Now what will happen. You gotta pay back as a top five quarterback. You know what else in about three or four years years. It won't be anymore because of quarterback inflation. I'm with you by the way i've seen the history teams to pay their quarterback a huge chunk of their salary cap. Don't win very very often gaba. This hold on not pay runningback. Do they win the super bowl. I don't so the top paid running back over. The last couple of years has been bell. Girly johnson had probably had a moment in their answers. No right so you wanna play but but the thing is what i'm getting at is that is how history is and i respect what you just said about the quarterback position but at this point point everybody's paying the quarterback russell wilson's make an eighteen percent of the cap. This is what it takes to have a franchise quarterback. If you want to pay that twenty three what you're really saying goodbye. We're replacing you. Ask you this. We gonna replace them with no listen mark. What is that is. That is the hard part right when you're looking at these contracts because it's the works. If it's my turn into conversation of top tier franchise quarterback i get the money right. It's my turn to be highest paid and understand that but i've been saying this probably since around joe flacco got his deal like at some point in organization has to step up and say look. We want to win right and we want you to get your money. Here's what we feel like is a fair deal and if you take this fair do you end up being our franchise quarterback for the next ten to fifteen years and we'll get that money where you need to be to be happy but we'll also get you championship. I love that and that's where the dallas cowboys had to negotiate because i don't know if that go somewhere else and is respected in that way from a monetary stamp question. Ryan clark played quarterback instead of defensive back you taking that deal you doing that under market deal to win championships. Yes i am the only but here's one that's it and say this is because i was asked a question early on this week about me. Taking adila pittsburgh berg that was worth less money that somebody else offered me is worth significantly letting all right but i wanted to be somewhere while was happy and where i could win and that was that was my thought so i know personally what i do allow. If i was faced with being able to get thirty hymns it might be different. Hey man. I love it. I respect it and that's one of the reasons. I respect so much. Tom brady is done right but we have to respect inspected acknowledging that it's rare nobody else makes those choices and i actually can't get mad at somebody for no pay involved at the top deck if i'm amari if i'm zeke i'm asking for the most in taking the most i could get. I get that but what i'm saying is if i'm looking at it from the cowboys standpoint which is where i am now. I can't make them all. The top five paid the county by the by the end of this season. It will no longer be a point of contention. People won't get mad at me. You may not even debate me when i tell you the dak prescott. I got a top ten quarterback in the n._f._l. By the end of the season everybody else let me you know what will you were right. I'm looking for the conversation. Do you want the money wanna win. Championships very few players can get both we have some hot takes about this on the show yesterday the controversy brewing around clemson and it's national championship rings dabo sweeney says he is not going to give quarterback kelly bryant a ring because he transferred minced midseason before clemson could capture for the national title. Bryan started the season four in last season for the tigers too now. Let's welcome and former texas longhorn n._f._l. Linebacker emmanuel acho acho. We brought you all the way from austin to get your so. We wanna know should it. Dabo give kelly bryant a championship ring without a doubt davos. Davos should give kelly bryant a championship ring. Data was being what we'd like to call petty. I would say you know what kelly thank you. Thank you for bailing me out against texas a. and m. so i can go to the national championship in two thousand twenty two thousand nineteen. Thank you thank you for leading me to ship in two thousand eighteen and most of all people bowl. I would be saying thank you. Thank you for helping me get a ten year ninety three million dollar contract because without the championship and eighteen without that appears without the a championship game in nineteen daboh is not the devo that we all have grown to know and love and lastly lastly. I got my national championship ring from nine. Appraise the ring guy received for going into that game. It's worth four hundred sixty three dollars. Tell kelly bryant ain't worth sixty three dollars. Come on deepall three bucks. You want to get adam go to like i. I wanted you to come on here because i thought you were going talk with some sense so when they get some studio i was like cool. Watchos go come on here and he's gonna make some sense of this thing and you say one hundred eighty percent zero to sit absolutely not not here's what devo did did the good do thing and said you know what we're going to go with trevor lawrence and they told him early enough to i'll him to go to missouri and get another opportunity to play the game. He loves which may put him in the n._f._l. Bill so that's how we say thank you kelly bryant right two thousand eighteen. That's how we say. Thank you kelly bryant for starting off the season but we're going in a different direction. He didn't and do her thing or the bad guy thing and still have them as a backup on the team so he could use them when he needed to matter of fact he wins a syracuse right. We'll just is one scholarship quarterback or just one guy who could play trevor. Laura's goes down and he has to win that game with bryce so he wasn't worried about the rest of the season more than he was was worried about doing a solid for kelly. Thank you sit in the league in the league right. You know why you get to get a ring. If he was on the team you might have been waived or you might have been picked up off a practice squad or even if you were cut you get a rain because that wasn't joe choice exactly trees free kelly choice categorize say that well. I don't know i want to college ashley charlie. Y'all y'all knows a college that you don't get to make the choice think about all the coaches that before their bowl game they go on essentially dates with other universities auditioning auditioning for head coaching jobs. That's all they're doing but when they in their bowl game they still get a ring. Kelly bryant actually saved last year day. You're talking about something different now. Let me get in your one hundred percent wrong. Ryan is exactly right see. I kelly bryant made the decision to go. He he wasn't traded. He wasn't caught. He wasn't injured. He had been the choice emmanuel he had to because he loves the job. That's how it works. In sports. You lost a job. Love and i want to underline what ryan said. Dabble already did him the solid he did it the way that was best for kelly bryant not the team by letting him go in time for the transfer. France was actually do what is best for kelly kelly's her team. Kelly bryant was getting us. Let's be frank at trevor. Lawrence started the second half of the game. That didn't wanna start. Kelly only reason kelly went in this because trevor struggled then kelly went in and had two touchdowns and under five minutes to put put them up by fifteen points so if we want to be honest. Let's call a spade. A spade kelly was being used out there. Just like jalen hurts got used it alabama to bail them out to help them to another other national altitude turnover lawrence is being used. All of these kids are because when we talk about we all talk about this these other things that has to these college athletes. We're focused in on this one conversation this one situation and i'm gonna tell you the other part about it. I that's actually from whether dabo sweeney should give him doing kelly bryant shouldn't want the rigs. I'm different story plus. Thus a different story that i do not look at you know why because i was there i had memories and no matter how many participation certificates he would get he don't he doesn't have the memories of leading this team to the championship because when it was his third wife reason lawrence is there is because when he stood across from alabama and they look like that y'all y'all just cover the preseason correct if kelly bryant would've stayed at clemson. You wanna know what we would have been talking about now. Maybe kelly l. e. Bryan is a third string quarterback who just finished playing for the cleveland browns or the cardinals maybe but more than likely a backup to a freshman is not making it to the league ryan. You've been in the league. You've been there well. You've covered it for several years. You're not trying to be a backup and did the did the right thing. None of let's hear clearly from what ryan's saying right here none of us here begrudge kelly bryant lena william clemson by the way. I don't know that that was the best decision for him but that's what he he thought was the best decision for him and when he made that choice a manual he left behind the opportunity to get the ring he also build on this. Hey hold on let me finish. He left behind the situation. You just described right. He left on the negative situation of having to be a backup to a freshman but also left behind the positive situation of getting ring. Life has consequences choices consequences and this is one of the consequences. Let me kelly bryant but let's let's talk this to me. This is the most pivotal point kelly bryant brian did significantly more for that team then probably sixty the other hundred five or so players on that roster. They're what you call hamburger eaters and college football along with the guys that travel on the road ryan you go you go on road trips. Don't play games either eat. The food. Kelly wasn't a hamburger reader. He was the starting quarterback for the first four games. I think dabble if nothing else just as a little token of appreciation for the last year and a half just here here you deserve this kelly. I'm not sitting here saying that. He didn't choose to leave. I don't disagree with y'all fellas. The third string linebacker barely passing class. That's missing scout team reps. It is getting a ring but kelly kelly rising to be what is the thirteen linebacker had to be both stupid and lazy. How aww how do you think that guy to compare to kelly bryant listen. There were guys there. That was still doing the work. There were guys that were still putting time in clemson and tiger helmet that is why they are going to get rings no matter what happens no matter what they contributed to that night because they contribute it to finishing and you that you know that team linebacker didn't do kelly bryant talk to leave the team that we needed to teammate the argument yesterday though that clemson may not have gone undefeated last season how did not not have been for kelly bryant correct correct and i stand by that. Here's the thing not my words davos weenies words without kelly bryant experience. We would not have got out of here what they they win. He said that post texas a._m. Not my words the head coach for clemson well. We already admitted if he has already ryan that they wouldn't have won that game therefore likely you wouldn't have got to the playoff but you could. He have cost marine by leaving. If trevor lawrence had gotten hurt hurt after kelly bryant lift could have not cost marine. I would say no because they won the rest of their games by over twenty points. You tell me what i thought right. He hasn't been initially game. They'll be diminished that team by leaving. Did he not best. That's fair. That's a fair assessment. I can't even disagree with that. Make it worse worse. Bring you want your cake and eat it too. That's the thing you can't have your cake and eat it too blake left. Kelly eat is cape bro archer. Thank you so much. Thanks for coming on to spice up this debate. We appreciate it ari all right. The eagles kicked off the preseason last night. At home. Versus the titans while carson wentz didn't plate his new backup nate said field look pretty good in the i out before suffering a broken wrist sun-filled will have surgery today the timetable for his possible return still unclear and there is no nick foles this year the other q._b.'s q._b.'s on the roster or cody kessler and rookie clayton thorson so as you can tell all the pressure right now on carson wentz will he lead the eagles to the n._f._c. title this season and gentlemen yep thoughts about it right. He doesn't think about it. It'd be like oh no carson. Wentz can't do it. Absolutely louis riddick who i really respect his knowledge thinks that carson wentz is going to be this year's m._v._p. I don't necessarily believe that but i believe he's going to play the m._v._p. Level that we saw him play two years ago before he went down versus. The los angeles rams. This team is may to help him get out. You get jordan howard from chicago as a running back. That's a running game that the eagles heaven head during his tenure now you go back outside. The sean jackson can take the top off of a defense on opposite sides of alshon jeffery zach ertz. One of the best pass catching tight ends in the league. This is set up for carson wentz to make the comeback and grab a hold of this team in the way he has to as nick foles exit. Obviously obviously losing your backup right now or something. You're worried about because of the injury concerns. They've been patient with carson wentz. They've allowed him to come back healthy. These made sure that everything everything in the arrow is pointing up right now. This guy is going to be phenomenal this year. Phenomenal this year peterson has shown that he is one of the top new coaches in in this league in his first two years in philadelphia and this team will win the n._f._c. east and i expect them to be playing against the saints. The rams the bears the the carolina panthers was ever teams would whichever is the other team will be playing the philadelphia eagles in the n._f._c. championship. I do not think carson. Wentz will lead the philadelphia eagles to the top of the n._f._c. east now ryan. I think you left out the best point in your argument which is at nobody's repeated as division champs in the n._f._c. alloys. It doesn't mean the cowboys can break. I was louis riddick as well and he's told us about jared goff patrick mahomes and by the way one of the gosh he's talking up. Today is jarrett stidham the backup quarterback in new england out of auburn but i don't think lewis is right when he tells me the carson wentz is going to end up being being the m._v._p. Of the season. I don't think you're right when you tell me that the philadelphia eagles are going to win the n._f._c. east as i go through this. I don't understand the difference in opinion between the analysis of the cowboys voice in the analysis of the eagles go through it step by step offensive line both have great offense. Mine's running back edge cowboys no matter how much wide receiver he retired in edge eagles defence probably pretty close to a wash the cowboys defense was allowed blended really good coach edge eagles but in the end and i believe in dak prescott at the quarterback position over carson wentz i absolutely do he wins in head to head. He wins and career accomplishment so far carson. Wentz has two thirds of one season that makes everyone in absolute believer now that gets us to last night losing nightside failed is a big loss for the eagles. Let me show you what carson wentz his his career has looked like not just in the pros but dating back to north dakota. I think we had put it up. It's injury after injuries broken wrist in college it was torn a._c._l. His is knee torn out for put them out there. At the beginning of his career last year. It was back. This has been one injury after another now what's behind very little ryan and i know this from a year ago. Bill polian was on e._s._p._n. Airwaves and he said the philadelphia eagles valued the backup quarterback position as a top ten position on the roster meaning. That's how important is now. There's no nick foles now. There's no nate sunbelt at least for a while. The philadelphia eagles by their own estimates are much depleted today. No they are depleted today. I'm not i'm not questioning the fact that they need to figure out something at the backup quarterback position you mentioned you mentioned jared stood didn't could it be something where you make a call to new england patriots to say hey listen you think jarrett stidham as your number to give us brian hoyer so we can have a veteran backup behind carson wentz. What i think is carson. Wentz is gonna play at such a high level this year i think that doug peterson on a coach at such a high level and make it and he's going to make it all the way through the season because he he has to understand how to play him. There's so much that's asked of last year. When nick foles began to play well a lot of people talk about why the philadelphia eagles would step up around. Oh nick foles because he didn't make all of these great throws. It wasn't necessarily that nick foles was winning these games by himself but the team was elevated. I felt like doug. Peterson persson was elevated when he had to coach nick foles and saying you know what i don't have this quarterback with superhuman or supernatural talent at the position when i don't have carson wins believe vets the coach see. I believe that's the coach. We see protect their quarterback. That's why you go out and get jordan howard because you wanna make sure that the running game stout just out. They've gotten better in the secondary issue. They've aged another year. There's more experience there. This team will be better all around there. Protect carson wentz better her and i know he has to now understand how he needs to play. This game is going on diving for the extra yard. These two teams are very very similar not not just equal but very very similar. I give the eagles and absolute edge when it comes to coaching of the dallas cowboys and i give the cowboys and edge when it comes to quarterback play building during this is your age only that you believe dak prescott can stay healthy because you can't take the production when these guys are available on the field steven quote. I absolutely absolutely can dak prescott beats carson winston almost every measurable well. It's wins and losses wins and losses healthy absolutely wins and losses quarterback back rating <hes> touchdown to interception ratio completion percentage yards per completion. There's only statistical categories that carson wentz really beats dak prescott gone on that's yards per game and total touchdowns and that has been as you put it out over a small sample size because of his health concerns now you take the quarterback position as a whole and you say say you've got an injury prone quarterback and no real backup behind him at this. Maybe they make a move to your point because they do value tobacco vision and don't get me wrong. I'm not going to talk with the cowboys. I always have behind. Give me willa gimmie dat. We'll take back every day will cain the g._m. Right now. I have an opportunity to have a healthy dak. Prescott have a healthy carson wentz. You get the peak one which one you pay. I'm taking dak prescott this. Why do you eagles. Eagles made a mistake. Letting nick foles go. No i don't believe they made a mistake and not necessarily looking into the future and saying that this ends up where carson wentz does get hurt and nick foles ends up playing well. They had to make a decision on their future and carson. Wentz is their future you invest in him. As the number two pick he plays well for you when healthy and there was no way to keep both maybe tied their hands meaning. What you describe how high they took carson wentz much value. They really didn't have a choice to make but i will tell tell you this. I'm not convinced yet. The carson wentz can perform and win at the levels that we know we know nick foles was capable of as a philadelphia eagle. Don't get me wrong. That doesn't mean the nick foles. Go down jacksonville and light it up and we're going to see a nick foles. It's better than carson wentz. It was situational. It was in philadelphia with those guys with that game plan with that coach. Which you just described was honestly magic for us. It worked. We don't know yet with carson wentz. If it's going to work like that are but we do know that the dallas cowboys with the guys they have don't get out of the door. I said hey here's some teams. I can imagine tom look into and you kind of casually mentioned tennessee. You'd be looking at supporting cast. You'd be looking at environments. Where could you envision brady. If not new england tom i haven't spent a lot of time on on it but i would start there and then i guess the new york giants would be another place that you would think if eli finishes and brady goes here but i think that it'd be hard for him to swallow given the history. I thank we got a ton of months to think about where it might be and you know what from my vantage point and probably yours. I don't want to see it happen and i don't think it's likely but we do have to consider that. Was tom current of n._b._c. Sports boston on the will cain show yesterday he was discussing. Tom brady's future and what we discussed about. Brady earlier in the show will said he could could definitely see brady in a different jersey next season leaving new england continuing his career elsewhere in two thousand twenty so gentlemen the question now is if brady does leave new england. Where's he going to land first of all. It's not a prediction that he will leave. New england is considering the possibility and as long as it's relationship is on a year to year basis. I don't know if it will happen next year. Some one point in the distant future if tom's individual goals are to play two forty four forty five and the patriots team goals are to never commit to an aged quarterback at some point. You might come onto the fork in the road if you do come to the fork in the road. Here are some of the teams that i would consider. Two of my shared with tom. Curran yesterday on the wilkin show one tennessee it might variable is an old teammate of tom's might able sell shares a lot of the same values as not only. Tom brady bill belichick. I can only assume he's building a franchise a team under the same model in values as what he saw in new england also by the way tennessee isn't a very tenuous quarterback position. They have to make a decision a year from now on marcus mariota another one is the new york giants now. They have daniel jones manning. I just can't figure out why tom wants to live in new york so much why he's looking at all these houses around the new york area. I don't think it's the jets so. I don't know i could also see the oakland raiders. I could also see see what jon gruden is building. An oakland can already see the face. You're making that team. According to the guy we just mentioned a moment ago. Louis riddick is way more talented than it was a year ago that is his surprise his team for two thousand and nineteen and also a team who is not committed to their quarterback for a long term. I wouldn't be surprised to see tom brady and any of those but last point. I think the market for tom brady even at age forty. Two forty three would be huge. I think he'd get top dollar and i think there would be numerous teams into go in for one or two years of tom brady so this is like you said it's not staying tom. Brady will lead. This is saying that if he did which i don't think he will. He will finish his career in new england if tom tom brady can't play next year right if two thousand and nineteen is his last year i already know what the next color will see him all right gold because that's going to be the hall of fame because it's over. We'll have to wait five years to see. Tom brady again talking football doing wing football. Why is he goes on a peyton manning light tour. Why are you so confident that the end of tom brady as a new england patriot is the end of tom brady's career. I'm so confident would it because that's what it has to be because as long as tom brady can still play as long as tom brady can still produce at a high level he is going to be new england patriot when they traded jimmy garoppolo that let me know that even if we have an era parent even if we believe somebody is good enough to at some point replace you and and give us a high level of success would stay believe jimmy g. He's not more important than utah olympic controversy. You know that came with drama and so on you know that well he's one did win then one and when you win and when you win and it all it seems like i just hear t pain you know what i'm saying. All all he does is win win win no matter what listen that's what tom. Tom brady's gonna if he plays well this year and if tom brady is still still good enough to be a starting quarterback in this league in wins a win games they will find a way for him. The pages of that franchise is not that it's a fairy tale sale ending and tom brady has been a fairytale itself right. Listen man take it from the team and individual perspective. The team has shown player after player after player they until early not a question of whether or not you can play. It's a question of what somebody else can play better wrangled patriots so he moved so my flowers earlier wheel early. Okay you got the list list written down right here. I gave him the list that you want to try to use the list. You we try to use the list against me didn't break all right. They're not getting their thomas the exception how 'bout this take it from the other side of the equation. Okay take it from the individual story roy. How many times does it have the fairy tale ending that you want for tom. Brady new england joe montana spent years as a kansas city chief. Johnny united so charger joe nameless. A charger charger emmett smith a. cardinal player after player top hall of famer had layers ended up talking about so far. I told you about romo tom. Tom does good. It's not a tragedy. This is a romance this this is not peyton manning was injured guy and coming up in the ranks. It was andrew luck and you knew you. You had that pick right and edgy. Look was a can't miss and i got a guy who i know through injury is not going to be the same payment and that's not what we get with. Tom brady. Tom tom brady. We got a super bowl that he won right not that they want in spite of him he made the big throws against kansas city. He made the big throws into big plays in the super bowl when they were needed and so when you're still doing these things you're going to play for the team playing ford. I'll tell you this ryan over the last couple of days. This conversation has been taking place across meeting. I've seen gene for example connor. Ordered sports illustrated what tom brady get on the market and who would be in. I'll just tell you this one of the teams that he heard mentioned from an anonymous g._m. Of potential your los angeles rams no sir. No sir and this is what i'm talking about trying to be all on my team out. Oh no. I didn't mean to doesn't it. Why did they need to. Have you have jared gordon overall pick. I'm upset now. Now you may be. It's an amazing quarterback. They still would want to bring on no ready no ma'am they would not all extension coming for they were we were talking about giants quarterback controversy. You guys remember that well. We asked twitter. Do the giants have a quarterback controversy versus after daniel jones. How did he stellar performance last night. Fifty two percent said no so eli manning still looks to be the man in the eyes of twitter. You new york aren't percent that didn't win. That's a win very close to told ya and it's four you're wrong and it's four percent all right. Gentlemen the back in the house next week. Breath coast to coast is coming up next having amazing weekends <music>.

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Are The Chiefs Legit?

PTI

22:23 min | 2 years ago

Are The Chiefs Legit?

"Great news. There's a quick way you can save money, switch to Geico Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price, and it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. Pardon the interruption. But I'm Mike wilbon Tonia gas station owner in Florida. Put up a sign, asking customers not to warm their urine in the microwave and Tony Kornheiser move. Does that. I just use the saucepan. You know, we'll remedium flames. Why does anybody I'm not grizzly Adler. Situation again to your his or her own urine. So the fifth time I'm not sure that sometimes we do things on this show that they're just beyond rich credibility, right? I well, you believe this heavy somewhere, Florida man, Friday, which is a staple on my podcast at stories from Florida are always insane. We're gonna PTI boys and girls. In today's episode, the eagles fall below five hundred. Mike Tomlin lets loose and working quarterbacks go four. No. But we begin today with the Kansas City Chiefs who pass their biggest test to the season so far. They stranded the number one NFL defensive Jacksonville, and one thirty two fourteen to get the five zero for the second straight year. Last year's chiefs, followed their five zero with one and six. But that team had Alex Smith at quarterback. This team has Pat Mahomes. We'll on this year's team convinced you it will not sly. Yes, and I realized that's a rational. Yes. They've convinced me. I don't believe anything after five games, not even in a sixteen game season. I don't believe in five games after college season which goes twelve games, maybe thirteen he make the playoffs. No, I don't usually believe anybody this, so but Tony, this when he goes against the top ranked defense, he's on the road. He pass a test at Denver against the division, just a blood rival that he comes back into this. I know he's got the patriots sitting on deck. I got that. And that's the biggest test and maybe a week from now I'll be backsliding, but, oh, let me get. Let me go to that because on Sunday night in what should be the highest rated. So Sunday night's game of the season, you have Kansas City at New England. You know what New England is and you waiting to see what Kansas City is. So by Sunday night, early Monday morning, we're going to know a lot more about both teams. My reticence about this is not about Padma home. What is it? The defense? No. Is it? Well, yesterday it's the recent history of Andy Reed's teams there when they always start fast and they all. Always end slowly now to get to the homes for a second. And we both think Mahomes is great real real Dokic for the first time yesterday he was intercept hadn't been intercepted more games. He was intercepted twice for the first time yesterday after throwing four touchdown passes in four games. He did not do any touchdown passes. We say this a lot here. I know I do the other team studies film to when they pay their coaches all night. Here's the poll ninety through two picks. He didn't have any touch and day still easily. Right. That's right. This is part of what convinced me anybody can win if that though and five touchdown passes the no pixie look perfect. He was not perfect yesterday. He led them. I want the couple of times they showed him in the huddle and he was getting guys faces. He's twenty two years. Oh, I'm drinking the Kool aid. And if I were to do power rankings right now, one, no two to Rams want Rams Rams one. 'cause he's young. Okay. So you got the cool eight at least up to you last? Yes, yes, yes, much like how much like this. Down the hats that silence you hear him. Philadelphia is panic after the eagles lost at home to the Vikings to drop to two and three on the season. It's been twenty years since the eagles win five games into a season without at least one scoring twenty four points and it's impossible not to notice that Carson Wentz has been sacked twelve times and hit twenty seven times in just three games. Tony two and three is hardly the end of the world, but do the eagles issues like winces recovery from knee surgery seemed temporary or do the eagles have something big to worry. So I'm going to I'm going to go to the side of temporary, and I'm going to explain that this way because the division they're in is terrible. Okay. The Cowboys are terrible giants are. We don't know if the Redskins lose tonight in the war, the eagles the eagles are right there. The problem the eagles have had so far is that they're passing these hit so much because they pay us all exclusive. It's crazy. So now it is being suggested that the loss of the offensive coordinator and the loss of the quarterbacks coach to coaching positions on other teams may have had a very important effect right now. I think Doug Peterson is great on offense, but it is also possible. He hasn't been his hands on as he should be well. He hasn't been great on offense because even a couple of running backs pointed out that even though they are short of running backs right now, that's what a depleted. They were averaging nearly five yards a carry yesterday, and he thought he run the best one. I'm getting his job. So I'm saying that he should be more hands on and realize that they run the ball better than just passing the ball forty five, but he's his hands on his, they can get. He's not, he's I'm not gonna use the word failing because it's two in three, but so far at least yesterday he wasn't noticing it when he's doing. He's putting his quarterback coming off that knee surgery into harm's way more frequently. What is what about back to serving to me is who they've beaten, they beat Atlantan Indianapolis. These are just one win team. They have lost. Let me go to the glasses. Tampa Bay Tennessee and Minnesota who were all multiple win. I think it's possible Mike, and I'll go to the Chicago Cubs for second. It's not the cubs. It's not one hundred years, but Philadelphia had never won the SuperBowl. This was a big deal. There could be a Super Bowl over there was a victory tour. This was a big deal with city, and we, I think, are watching this now. I mean the capitals are going to fall on their faces. Well right now after winning seven, nothing, they managed to lose seven, six. In the next game, the Pittsburgh Steelers had their best game of the season beating Atlanta forty one to seventeen. Then rothlisburger had Antonio Brown for two touchdowns in one hundred one yards. James, Connor at one hundred ten yards and two touchdowns as well. Not everything was smooth. Mike Tomlin was barking about roughing calls wilpon which was the biggest story for you. Big Ben in and Tonio Brown getting the wifi right? Tomlin yapping the falcons lose. I don't care to all about Tomlin and what he says. I'm getting to the point now where I just ignore all NFL coaches at what they say, because there's no Bill. Walsh out there. There's no John Newark, very, maybe I'm talking about also at the Mike. When he comes in, he has control. He has control of his memory of the game. What happened to the game was going to happen in next week's game all his players, all your players. None of these dudes is Bill Walsh, so I don't give a damn what any of one of them is, but he is not this whole? Yes, in New England, he chooses not. That's right. So you know, so over dinner, you can get him to explain some stuff if you want. Down. I care about getting the wifi, right? I mean, Big Ben, I always say to you. 'cause you, you mentioned whole thing, quarterbacks. We talk about them this show, and that was said, you've told me you keep leaving our big bid and you always know who've been rocked. This burger is a great quarterback in this league now. That's right. And if he and Antonio Brown or hooking up in the wifi is good, the Steelers are going to be good just as just as a follow up to that. If I were member the Pittsburgh Steelers, I would hate levian Bill that he is announced that he'll show up in four weeks of five. Well, right now what hadn't been for a couple of games, east body. My biggest thing here is Atlanta, the Atlanta Falcons, unlike the Philadelphia Eagles. They're in a good division. They got New Orleans. They got Carolina Tampa's not bad. They look like they're done. They were in the Super Bowl two years ago. They got Julio Jones. They've got running backs. Is it possible that the loss of cows Shanahan old profound? Yes, they can't reverse because they're if I'm not mistaken. Their coaches, defensive guy, and this is an offense. And Dan Quinn might be getting ready to say goodbye because they've fallen down, they fallen down this price rise you in this league. You see, people bounce all the time. Healers don't bouncing dozens, just banned slow last week though. They were not wanna to hold. These were not one end for you want, so you're declaring them? Well, Dr. Kornheiser Steelers, all cure coordinate, you know, but better better than Atlanta. Atlanta looks done to me. Looks what a big day for rookie quarterback, Tom, the four roof selected the top of the most recent draft Baker Mayfield Sam darnold, Josh, Allen, Josh Rosen. All started yesterday all one together, though they could play just fifty percent of their passes and Mayfield carried that load only roses who was ten, four twenty five was playing on the road. All right. So these are going to be the guys you slurp for the next ten years. You look quarterback so much, so which one of them impressed you the most? First of all, not all of them are going to be slow for the next ten because it doesn't work it all does where these guys can't rise, they can, but but it's unlikely that all four will. I'm going to go with Baker Mayfield for the simple reason that he looks like a leader. And when you look at the huddle and the teammates around him and the sideline and the linemen and the Bax around him, they know he's the one. There's no question in their minds. He led them to the winning drive this time. I believe Cleveland actually should be five zero. I mean, if they had kicking problems in a terrible spot a week ago, I think Baker Mayfield I'm not saying he's the best. I'm saying that Baker Mayfield has come into this league and all of that arrogance that you pointed out when he was in college is being harnessed in the right way as a leader of player. That's what I wanted to see because I wasn't drinking that Kool aid from the beginning of the meal. I wanted to see it. And so we see a lot of it. Now we're going to get yards against good defense looking at arts Sony, the yards of phony. Sometimes I just thought Baker Mayfield as you suggest it was in control this easier to be in control of team that hasn't won in fifty years because France had that's right squad. That's right. Okay. At least the other teams. The jets hadn't been great real recently, but it hadn't been forever and a day and the Buffalo Bills were nine and seven last year with the other rookie team, who would I leave Arizona, they, they got guys in the locker room in the huddle who've had some success point this down the Browns better. Listen to Baker Mayfield, Josh Rosen. To point this out. And now I think that Sam Bradford is deactivated. The former overall number one, unbeliev, Josh Rosen in the first half alone, had five flat dropped passes accumulated over one hundred yards. So he looked good, his stats belied the fact that how good he look, the Sunday night game was an intramural one Dallas at Houston, not much of a show really terror, but in overtime, with a fourth and one on the Houston, forty two, Jason Garrett decided to punt instead of handing the ball to Zekiye Elliott, not everybody was thrilled including Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones who said, and I quote, it's time for risk at that particular time, unquote. We'll Bundy Garrett make the right call coordinate owner, which is really important. So last night I'm working to stay around to watch the post game of a Cowboys Texas game. But lately I just logged on. I wanted to find out what Jerry had to say, and I saw that same quote that was part of a larger quote. You just mentioned. I was like, Ouch. Yeah, Jerry was annoyed. I found it. Annoying little bit small a on annoying because the point did pin Houston back to its own ten and they put together driving, yes, they won the game, but I thought the Jarrett's reasoning at the time I'm going, you know, why don't you go for their on the road? He wanted to pin them back and having a low scoring defensive game. I understood it on that intellectual level, but it seems to have been the wrong statistic that I know you have ready about when Dak Prescott Ezekiel Elliott or on the fourth in wheel together. Fourth and one eighteen hundred nine hundred eighteen of nineteen times the cop was. So I don't like this gesture of eat list everybody. Okay, every sport they do that now. But as you make a putt and start doing this on that, we do. Elliot can get one dad. I got Sean McVay in a situation on fourth and one in his own territory. So I'm McVeigh was gonna put the punter out Pete Cowan called time. Sean McVay gave the wool. Jared, God was a head to Tom. Brady sneaky. Did I mean if you can't make one, what are you doing? Other side of the argument? You mentioned already, you've got Dak Prescott you've got Zeke Elliott. You've got those two guys to get you the one you're done that and been stoned. Jerry would have been whining in this same reporters and our link right called for it, and it didn't work. Okay. I'm just going to say this year expect more from the Dallas Cowboys by they have a highest day of a higher standard, even though they never win. Nine year you all the time to take a break. We lead off. Mason Crosby oh, you missed glide kicked actors. Law. I'm does all the blame for the Packers isn't enough to go around and after all the drama on Saturday night Conor McGregor deserve a rematch. This is what you missed. This was the best story of the weekend to do. I dating watch the fight. You watch post king. I don't need to watch the fight. The post game. Watch. Watch the post game. You watch this interruption is brought to you by dominos order online and track your order. I can't believe it. Let Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. How long until it got their alarm, we get their learning Billy get there. No, I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with gyco. What's this button? Do? What's this button? Do what's best button do, what's this. I believe that Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. We've reached the time in the show when we're at your mercy. So let me see what's first mercy. Now, what we call them or Gregor after their sweep of the Rockies should the brewers the World Series. Favorites brewer should be the favorite in the National League, which I've been telling you for over a month on your own podcast a month ago, I said you don't eat. You has about the cubs, the brewers are better than the cubs. The brewers are better than everybody in that league, the brewers and the Astros if we're talking about favorites and people can go south one bad pitching stark and kill a team in a series. But I'm gonna go brewers Astros. Those are my favorites. Okay. So I like Braun and I like yellow and I like Cain, the MVP and I think they're very, very, very wonderful players. There was a statistic against the Rockies that was amazing to me. The Rockies were up for twenty eight full innings in the three games against the brewers in only one inning did they score that means twenty seven out of twenty eight. They were out many starters and bullpen they got it. I like the dawn them. I think the dodgers are the best collection of talent in the league. I think if Kershaw pitches like he did in game two of that series, I think that they are dinner even in the brewers, GIO Gonzalez, get a World Series ring, perhaps being left your nana's. That's all you have said about. Should the Packers put the total blame on Mason Crosby well, here's what happened the Packers lost to Detroit alternately by eight or nine points, right? Is that what they lost by? He missed four field goals in an extra point by my math, that's thirteen points. He can even miss a field goal and they can still win. I don't know who else you're supposed to blame. I know tell me was twenty four now though because the Cincinnati toward down seventeen nothing Miami and scored twenty seven points in a row. This is the kind of performance that gets a kicker fired does and that picture on the sideline. We're Aaron Rodgers is just cozied up to his buddy say, hey, listen, because he was. Aaron Rodgers had two fumbles yesterday that were costly. In that game. In the second hand, don't give a yard strong, four scoring. It was fine, but then late if you have Reuters, if your kicker kicks normally and you have Aaron Rodgers, you have a cheese. You have a chance to me ask you this Aaron Rodgers say because no, okay. So Billy Colfax rather, no Bill is Oklahoma's lost Texas, really just Mike stoops's fault. Well, my stoops he's talking about taking all the blame. I mean might stoops's defense is dreadful. It's as bad as any defense. Oklahoma has ever fielded apparently and Texas just went up and I couldn't believe the score and it is still game was still going on. I finally got around to watching the end of it, but Tony, I don't know that you wanna fight really should colleges be about firing assistant coaches or any kind of coach. Like in the middle of the seizes professional football on the high college level, Kyle, they can Oklahoma can score Cuyler. Murray was six touchdowns a game by himself. Okay. Here's what happened with that defense. They gave a five hundred one yards to a team Texas that lost to Maryland five touchdowns in the red zone. They were only in the reds. Are you for ring him on me and Baylor possess war time? Yeah, I would've made that change. You invited him on Sunday morning. Kick around now now all the stoops's are gone. Yes. Wow, that's that's fishes, man. I ain't agreed with that. Everybody else down with that should the you have c. embarrassed or excited about went down on Saturday night that you missed an announcing to try to minimize. I have no regard for the sport. I hesitate to call it a sport. I just think it's skill most. Okay. I look at Conor McGregor as as a vulgar, lout almost all the time, a great self promoter. Here's what's going to happen. They shouldn't be embarrassed out. They shouldn't be embarrassed because they're going to have this fight again. And there's more money for KEB. There's more money from Gregor. There's more money for Dana white, and they're going to sell it and sell it and sell it and no silcon McGregor until he loses two more fights in a row, then they'll kick him to look. We saw this happened with Rhonda Rousey the shelf-life in that sport Tony's not long you, right. You'll get a couple of losses Conor McGregor and get to more. He gets one more okay. You know when to rematch he's. Not marketable anymore. He'll be gone onto permanently go pro wrestling. This thing was unbelievable. You could not take your eyes off. It was riveting. Both the aftermath and then the press conference is wish they talked about everything short of deportation. Can somebody get another visa to return to have these fights? A lot of these things were exaggerated. I think they ought to be exhilarating. They are. Everybody's talking about money. Enough, female. Let's take one last breaks, Nova com. John gruden's chance to not in the ball to marshawn. And after losing on a sixty three yard field goal, should the giant stick with alive. You'll blame that on ally. Was he on those special teams team. People have forty eighth birthday, Matt, Damon. He's a good friend of Bill Simmons, but I've met him. He watches PTI is that rare grade actor who can do comedy, drama and action? And he's stone cold sports fan, particularly Boston teams. We'll buy my top three Matt, Damon movies or the good shepherd, the Bourne identity in the Martian. But the do you like apples seen in goodwill hunting. That's the best. I don't know that see all the movies, but goodwill hunting, his first huge hit. You know, there's some artists. The first hit is the everlasting one. That may be the case with him. Google huntings my favorite happy anniversary Don Larsen on this day sixty two years ago Larsen pitched the only perfect game in World Series history after striking out the dodgers Dale Mitchell ten. The game Yogi Berra famously ran out to the mound and jumped into Larson's arms. I have a signed photo will at home of Larson delivering that last pitch to Mitchell with the entire expanse of the scoreboard. Dick Schaap had unused ticket in his pocket. He let his wife convinced him to go. Apartment hunting. Didn't go by God having trails to the New York football giants. After being down the entire game Carolina. The giants scored with minute eight to go to take a thirty one to thirty league Carolina. Got the ball, but stall barely into giants territory. Graham Gano who never need to feel go longer than fifty. Nine yards stepped up and chill the walk off from sixty three, and that would have been good from seventy. So the giants lose leaving Odell Beckham junior to trash manning again, the Panthers everything wrong could do wrong. Any wind up winning the gate. They did one omission eagles running back j Gye has a tornado. He's out here. So eagles running game going to get any better now with can't they don't use it enough and I can't use it enough. Let's go to the big fish doing John gruden's raiders now one in four after losing twenty six ten to the charges, your thoughts zig for meal. When he came back after a long long way up and this MRs five and eleven. You got to give it to Spurs garden Johnson Murray. Oh, no. Has a torn ACL. This is a huge except if the Spurs are not what they were, they were not the result. He parked on JR late now. Eating inspire GM, Ryan mcdonagh. Does that make sense to, you know, because de'andre Eytan and Mikhail bridges. I've thought he had the best draft class in these John Red Sox and Yankees tonight. Severino Nevada who you got. I got Yankee Stadium for the Yankees, but I think this is going back to this is a five years in the gray one last one, Monday night, football, Washington at New Orleans. He got. I know the risk into seem to be recovering rally. I'll go over drew Brees. We're trying to better the next time and I'm Tony Kornheiser. I'm Mike robot same time tomorrow knuckleheads. Now we send you the Suzy kolber and the Monday night without call. Data, happy thanksgiving. Is it.

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The Ocho: Another day with no answers

Blogging the Boys

23:29 min | 1 year ago

The Ocho: Another day with no answers

"Nona what a world welcome in an hour to another episode of the Ocho presented you in partnership as is always nations blog on the boys dot com. My Name Arja choice of course from BTV and from radio as you're humble host on the Ocho this episode for Wednesday today January first two thousand nineteen very happy New Year to you may twenty twenty bring you good times and blessings and everything that you want and hope for in life we we love you and we appreciate. You may be to be a part of your cowboys fan experience. You might be listening to this late on New Year's Eve so if that is the case just In a couple of hours or so. Whatever just rewind the top of the show so you can get the you know the introduction into the new year whatever and so we are postings episodes a little bit earlier earlier than usual given the the weird week that everything is and you know? We don't WanNA posted early Wednesday morning and then you know later Wednesday morning a few hours later in something and changes that kind of Dates the episode of makes it relevant for you but rest assured that if something happens if a big shoe drops with the Dallas cowboys whatever that shoe might be from now basically until forever. We'll have an emergency episode of the OCHO available for you but so recording this about four o'clock on Tuesday Tuesday on New Year's Eve and the workday just about over its five. PM Eastern and nothing. No Change Now we had an episode persona yesterday that we dropped early again and we talked. Look we don't know what's going to happen you know. Watch out. Maybe you listen to the slater movie Jason. The head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. That did not happen. The Dallas Cowboys did not you know at least in a literal sense move on from Jason Garrett on Tuesday this day and the star was closed on Tuesday however Jane slater from NFL network. was there and there were reports from the ESPN and whatnot. That You you know. Conversations were happening Jason Garrett and Jerry Jones and Steven Jones seemingly met at about noon central time. I don't know if they they broke bread. I mean I dunno I I you know how that goes. Maybe they will. Maybe they ordered in. I don't know maybe they had some wings celebrate New Year's but They met in there was no apparent resolution. Solution is the verbiage that is being used and I look. This is a weird subject and it's hard to just keep trying to figure out the problem here or the answer Sir to this problem but this is where we are. This is the most important thing happening with the Dallas cowboys. And it's honestly the most important thing to happen to the Dallas cowboys in A decade I. I don't think that's an understatement. Or an overstatement. Because you think about this in fact it might be an understatement. In the last time the Dallas cowboys hired a new head. Coach was in two thousand and eleven fulltime right and the reason they need a new head. Coach is because a few months prior in the middle of the two thousand ten season. They fired their head coach. They fired Wade Phillips. And they had Jason Kirby the interim for the second half of the season and while it was technically a coaching search. In Two thousand eleven. You know what will now be nine years ago. It was not a real search. We all knew that Jason Gray was going to get promoted fulltime job so the last time that there was a real true authentic coaching search as for the Dallas Cowboys was twelve years ago. After the two thousand six season when bill parcells retired and the cowboys had to figure out sort of what direction they wanted to go in with their young promising quarterback and defensive pieces that they really like sounds a lot like they are in right. Now right Well you know. The cow was decided to hire Wade Phillips and decided to go that direction They decided not to hire Ron Rivera. decided not to hire norv Turner by the way. Speaking of Ron Rivera became the Washington Redskins skains coach on Tuesday. The Red Skins really making a lot of changes to their building firing Bruce Allen as well this week already so that team seems like it's at the very least not going going to be as bad as they have been in years past which is bad news if you're a Dallas cowboys fan but But the Cleveland Browns also were busy on Tuesday. Firing Aaron John Dorsey. We already knew that they had fired Freddie kitchen so now they're out of head coach and general manager so lots of teams are making moves. You know it's not like the cowboys are in this. This group of a bunch of teams that are just kind of sitting idling by twiddling their thumbs Jason Garrett continues to meet we know at the very least that he has had two meetings meetings with the cowboys brain trust since this offseason began on Sunday night and the meeting on Monday the meeting on Tuesday they came and went and nothing The tweet from Jane Slater from NFL on network On twitter at slater NFL. I'm being told there will likely be no news today on the Jason. Great Front meeting is over remaining coaches and staffers and the building heading home with Shrug Emoji in rappaport of NFL Network at rap sheet quote in that tweet saying the cowboys meeting with Jason Garrett lasted less than an hour and everyone left with no resolution David more from the Dallas Morning Morning News on twitter at David Moore Demon Jason Garrett will have yet another discussion with Jerry and Steven Jones before his status is resolved source said. It's unclear earlier at this time when that discussion will take place and so this just leaves us all still kind of going in the same circle wondering the same thing having the same questions not not having any of the answers why I think my most important question perhaps is what kind of resolution is necessary. And I I know it's been a rough week for Jason Garrett headlines But and I say this with all due respect Jason Garrett why is there a resolution necessarily this isn't Discussion this is not a debate. This is not something you know where you solicit opinions from Jason Garrett if you're the Dallas cowboys this is a decision this is one way and so I mean. I don't know there are a lot of theories. There's a lot of conspiracy theories the first conspiracy theory we sort of addressed on Mondays. Today's episode Tuesday's episode. Excuse me which was you know. The the cowboys are trying to figure out a way to transition Jason Gardener some front office role and I do maintain pain while I don't subscribe to that theory. I do maintain that I believe if Jerry Jones if he had to by law had to give up the title of General Manager The Dallas Cowboys. That you know if you had to give it anybody on earth I think would be Steven Jones. And if not Stephen Jones Jason Garrett Jason good is that close to them So that's one conspiracy theorist right the cowboys and Garett or working out some sort of New Role maybe some sort of you know executive president or whatever some sort of front office role. Maybe like Tom Coughlin. What are you going on in Jacksonville? Before everything fell apart bill parcells had later in his career. Bill Parsoes was more of an adviser because he had awed success. But I don't know that theory holds up. There's another theory and this one. I certainly don't subscribe to that. The cowboys are playing chess. While everybody's playing checkers that Jerry Jones is just outsmarting everybody involved here that he is aware or at least aware of his own belief. Relief that Jason Garrett could be such a great in prominent head coach that he's worried about him ending up with a another team especially with the division Asian rival. You Look The New York. Giants obviously have a head coach opening as well Jason Garrett as we've discussed many times has ties to the giants organization and a history. There the jury is just so paranoid paranoid about Garrett ending up there that he's simply playing defense at this time that he's not letting Jason Garrett out of his contract early because he wants to push install as long as you can chance that the giants get themselves another head coach. Whoever that ends up being if it's Josh mcdaniels are Matt Rule or whatever the case that it is just simply not Jason Gear and I think that that also you know all of this you know sort of points in a lot of directions? Both both scenarios both hypotheticals both conspiracy theories to me. I I mean they they do have me wondering what is Jason. You're going to do in two thousand twenty if he's working in the NFL and he's not involved with the Dallas cowboys if he's not a head coach and that's a lot of ifs but I mean he has not been a coordinator in a long time. I mean do we think he can call place can just show up to. There's going to be a lot of offensive coordinator openings. especially if Eric gets a job especially if Greg Rome and gets a job I don't know that Garrett can go to you know high flying high profile offenses like that but the point I'm I'm driving is can he just show up to an offense even a bad offense. It'd be their offense coordinator because I don't know that any of us think that that's something he can do simply because it has been so long since he has been a coordinator called place but this is you know. There's a lot of people in this unprecedented. I'M NOT GONNA go that far but this is definitely weird and this is definitely unorthodox way of handling a situation like this because if you know what let's it let's take our break because we have you know this this next part of it is a big Sort of if to unpack and there's a lot to it so let's take our breaks that we can use the proper time we dedicate enough to it so It is what it is by the way. If we haven't said I know we already said because that's how podcast work so like we said earlier a very happy happy new year to you. Hope this series fantastic for you're going to take a quick break here word from our sponsors. I'm Jillian Weinberger. Who's the impact podcast from inbox about how powerful people affect the rest of us this season? We're looking at the big ideas from all the people running for president. In twenty twenty hit this opioid opioid crisis. Head on public option. move away from Moslem fueled energy efficiency and it's got to be a Great Wall and it's going to work. A lot of those ideas have actually been tried before four like that. Wall trump wants to build the gallows Zona has had one on its border for decades. I don't understand I and why individual people have a right to have a fence and yet a country can't Senator Warren's proposal to the OPIOID crisis racists. It's based on what we did to fight the AIDS epidemic. We would like to name it. 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This is huge this gigantic because whatever this decision ultimately it is and it's crazy to so many people that it is actually kind of a decision it is going to shape and mold. The direction of this franchise is and how many different careers. I mean think about how much hangs in the balance for the Dallas Cowboys. Not just from an on the field perspective but an off the field perspective as well and I don't mean in their brand or their equity or things like that but we had a post go out on Tuesday at the site go check it out blocking the West Dot com a list of every cabbage free agent this offseason. And when you look at that that list and you know every common every tweet every response SORTA says this. It's daunting I mean it is it's intimidating because there are a lot of free agent to the Dallas cowboys have to figure How they WANNA handle? What's more is that? Not only are there just a lot from a quantitative standpoint from a qualitative one as well Dak Prescott the Fridge and Amari Cooper Byron Jones. Sean Lee Jason John Wooden Randall. Cobb Michael Bennett L. P. Ladder Sir. Robert Quinn I mean you can go a number of directions with this Anthony Brown. I mean you know so the cowboys have to figure out about how they want to figure this and who they wanNA bring back and they wanna let walk. And that is going to mold. Not only their franchise but it's going to mold a lot of careers and we've talked so much about how how you know. A lot of talent has been wasted under chasing air careers like Tony Romo and Dez Bryant and Jason Wind demarcus ware. Who Do get on Super Bowl Ring? And Sean Sean Lee and Dan Bailey and on and on and on and on and so whoever ultimately is part of the cowboys franchise and part of the cowboys team. In twenty twenty careers are going to be influenced and molded by what the cowboys are deciding here. And it seems like they're deciding on something which is hard to figure out but again the Dallas Morning News. Reporting that Jason Jason Garrett will meet again with the cowboys at some point you know we don't even know. When will it be you Wednesday on New Year's Day will it be Thursday The verbiage that's being thrown around a lot is that there's there's no resolution. Well maybe they had to wait until new years to find a resolution. Because that's what everybody doesn't do. I'll say this we talked about this. We're headed to break. I it is. It is a larger disservice actually Jason Garrett than it is to the cowboys for the cowboys to know that they're going to move on on from Jason Garrett and not do it now and I know I would add that weirdly. It's twenty twenty so it's the first day break. I got three hundred sixty four to get better but Intrude the Jason Garrett fashion by the way a better day by day if the cowboys no right and let's be have it that I in this hypothetical the cowboys are one hundred percent certain they are going to move on from Jason Garrett. Then it is actually inhibiting him and inhibiting everybody on his staff by not doing so literally release soon as possible. I saw profootballtalk wrote about Ron Rivera. had a huge advantage by having the last four weeks you know to kind of plan his future. And that's why he's already you guys new job with the Washington Redskins Account Panthers fight him before the season was over and people thought that the college should do that to Jason not kindness to him but because the cowboys could have used used it but it is every day every hour literally every minute that goes by as as we currently sit now past the point of the regular season ending with with jobs. Literally Open every minute that goes by you are being unfair to Garrett. If you're GONNA let him go right that's the truth. Jason Greer truly is is going to coach again in the National Football League. And it's not going to be with the Dallas cowboys then not allowing him to go. You know prepare himself or put himself the running or have his agent do work or go interview or go have the opportunity interview whatever. It's you know it's unfair to him. And maybe you don't care or maybe you think the cowboys should you know. Do what's best for them and I agree with that. I agree with that but at the same time you know. And maybe they didn't want to. The couch didn't interview Ron Rivera. WHO's already got a new head? Coaching job to cowboys aren't putting the requests at least formal ones yet to Arab Josh mcdaniels or Matt Ruler Lincoln Riley or whoever. However you WanNa talk about the cowboys and Jason Garrett are in limbo pair in purgatory and this is a purposeful conscious thought out agreed upon seemingly from a few parties the most important one decision? This is the they've all some who whoever the powers that be are. Whether you believe it's Jerry or Stephen or will mcclay or you know Jason Great himself the powers that be have all gotten together and they said we need to do. This is a good idea. Let's continue to wait. And there are really no pros and the previous pros that had been discussed or that Jason Garrett was being afforded time to say his goodbyes to kind of get his affairs in order with the cowboys. How he's been there for a long time almost a decade and so there's obviously a lot of relationships that run really deep been that's respectable? That's commendable that's admirable. Everybody can understand that you know okay you you need to to have some conversations you want to end things the right way you didn't want to be abruptly and everybody just kind of see you pack your things box. Whatever that time has come and gone and and what was weird is we've already kind of gotten the reports? The reports have already been that the last team meeting had had a good byes sort of feel taste to it. Jane Slater reported on Tuesday Eh. Jason Girl was telling people goodbyes and exchanging information on how to stay in touch and she joked about how maybe he was on his Christmas cards and so if all all of that is happening all signs are pointing in the direction of a potential departure. Why has it not happened yet? And and the only reason and I know we spent a lot of time. Rt this episode kind of pondering this. I'm wondering about it. The there's only one logical answer answer that I can come up with you know. I'm not the smartest person in the world but the only thing that makes sense to me is that it is a combination of all factors. And so I hate to be that guy. That's like the the only answer is all the answers. But maybe it's a combination that evolved. They wanted to give Jason Time. Okay that has been accomplished. Maybe it's a combination devolves. The cowboys don't want to necessarily they have Jason Great interview somewhere else and that's just their own prerogative. Their move in it might be another Jason Gear. But they don't care because they're looking for their number one which is them. Okay that makes sense the part about this that is essential for you to buy it as a logical option is the only way this all make sense is if the cowboys already know who their duties and then maybe that dude has number one agreed in principle with them by principal back channels text messages snapchat. I don't use tick tock so I don't know if you can communicate overtook tap or something like that. Maybe that is sort of. Those pieces are already materializing into places my point or maybe it's a coach who has a playoff game in front of the show bobby kind of floated this theory out on twitter as well And that could be an NFL playoff game or a college football playoff game because it. It is bull season. Bobby has been kind of hot. On the Mike Zimmer train bobby was the first person I saw that as a possibility to cowboys. Theoretically trade for my Zimmer But I'm gonNA write about this but bobby tweeted this out. In fact I'm going to pull up his tweets while while I record it's called multitasking thing and doing that right now. You hear that. Click of the mouse. So I believe the bobby tweeted this out late on Monday night and so here we go scrolling back thankfully has tweeted too much In this time but here we go here we go here we go around it so you might remember that. We talked about on Sunday night here on the here on the podcast Mike. florio on football night in America had reported that there were three names to sort of keep an eye on with regards to potential cowboys head coach opening right and the three names. A he dropped. Where Dan Campbell? Okay Mike Zimmer who is on a playoff team right the Minnesota Vikings will be playing a wildcard game this weekend and Gary Kubiak. Who was on Mike Zimmer staff and Minnesota and so that applies to him too and bobby had this tweet and it's a threads three tweets? Here's the first one. He's on twitter about the fact that the cow was in a rush to begin their coaching. Search would seem to me to indicate one of two things one. They already know who they're hiring. Excuse me and have an understanding with that coach which is Kinda just said or their desired target is coaching the playoff. It's Bobby's first tweet. Second floor mention on football. Three names to watch for the Dallas Jobs Zimmer Campbell Kubiak. What if? It's two of those names. What if Dallas would like to target Mike Zimmer Maria as head coach and have him bringing Gary Kubiak as the offensive coordinator? Perhaps they're waiting on Minnesota. This makes sense just trying to connect some logical dots. Here I don't have any special insider information formation. That would lead me that direction. That's Bobby's three tweets again. Go check that out. It's about that. Make sense to me. Gary Kubiak obviously pretty big and pretty renowned on dolphins of mine was going to return to the Denver broncos to be offensive coordinator. Couldn't get that staff finalize the way he likes so I had to part ways there with John Elway and ended up in Minnesota. And you look at what they've done their offense their ground game. I mean think about the the components of offense that are most disgust and most talked about right and so the reason I say most discussed talked about because those are the things that Jerry Jones is going to be looking for right like once the hot thing and the thing is being able to run the ball effectively. When you're not throwing the ball and the Minnesota Vikings have been able to do that and play action and who was the play action king? It is Gary Kubiak back to the Houston Texans days match. Arian Foster Andre Johnson. Play action play action play action and if you can make that thing work with Matt Shaab Area Foster and Andre Johnson. No disrespect Erin foster or Andre Andre Johnson you can surely make it work with Dak.. Prescott Ezekiel Elliott Amari. Cooper Assuming Amari Cooper is back which we often. We'll be but that's an interesting theory. And that's that's the only thing that makes logical sense to me. Is something like this. Even if it's not the Mike Zimmer Gary Kubiak thing the only thing that makes sense to me is that there's there are some sort of plan that involves whether it's the vikings staffers because they're in a playoff game or matt rules staff because they have the sugarbowl on Wednesday today. I mean that's the only thing that would make sense. There is obviously you know the possibility. I suppose that the cowboys are going to bring back. Jason Gear are and if they do well. Twitter will consume us all. But you know that's a conversation from their day. I don't think that's happening personally. But the longer the cowboys go the more the conspiracy theorists will continue to mount Again we're going to post this episode Late Tuesday evening so that you have a chance to get to it because it's possible. They can happen Wednesday morning. Whatever and we'll have to get the emergency episode up if that's the case and so I WANNA make sure you're taking care of You know however you plan to listen but what do you listen to this Tuesday Tuesday evening or Wednesday morning or Wednesday afternoon or whatever A very very very happy new year from all of us at blocking the boys and estimation do thank you for making us part of your cowboys. fandom thank you you for choosing US thank you for subscribing we know you have a lot of places to go for content. This is the time of year or we're very grateful. And we're very very very grateful for you so happy New Year to you blessings to you and yours and do me a favor. The absolute best Wednesday and the best year of all time. You know why because you deserve it. So that being said we will see him. Indiana my friends as always go cowboys and peace out

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"So your explanation on a daily basis for now. Nick beacons, which have fancy event tonight. Or what are, you know, you're sort, Nick has a Colorado. Well, it's not so much the shortness of my neck alone. That's part of it. It's the fact I hollers. And so this is actually supplementing my own Edo, and desires to help the less charity that our friends hoops, YoM us putting on tonight. So I'm just being a good guy presser. Being on TV looking like you don't know how to dress. I. That's, that's a level of oppression that you seeing fairly comfortable with, but I've got the Culver q broken with the band collards. Nice. I've been in G Q. You're comparing yourself here that we got to g q star over here. Guys do way do. I mean we've got you tried to dress like Seth Rogan. I was hoping that we're going to be a sarcastic clap, it does. No than for. Yeah. Of course, it, why wouldn't it be earnest flawed? We have this Archie net. NBA finals tonight. This is a nice summer linen. We've a few updates by the way. Kevin Durant in Toronto cannot play DeMarcus cousins in Toronto, and he can play while Golden State is a massive betting favourite to win the series, the raptors we're actually slightly favored to win tonight. So shirts aside, let's start here. What do you expect game one to tell us about Toronto? Well, wrinkle, still skin. I think that if the raptors are fortunate if nothing else here, we're going to see your nipples, if nothing else here. Well they look like they're ready to play in the NBA finals because this happens with teams that don't have guys, we've been here before that, that first game, swallows them up and overwhelms him important. Look like we saw this happen to Milwaukee in the first game of their series against Boston. That's the only thing I can be certain that we're going to find out here. Are they going to punt a game away, or they going to actually be ready for this, because the warriors on the other end of things seem quite comfortable, and it's because they're going to play boogie cousins. It seems in game one. And that seems like a thing you do. When you feel. Confident about your chances. I remember Steve Kerr in the Western Conference finals against the blazers talked openly about. He was gonna play eleven guys against Portland and he did. And they won comfortably in this series. It feels like rehabbing your center, who doesn't really fit well into your offense during the NBA finals feels like a flex of the different kind. Well, it's only a flex if they play 'em like twenty five minutes, they didn't say they were going to do that. They haven't even actually said he's actually going to play. They say he is going to be active. They could be given up one of the Andrew bogut shifts where you play three minutes. And then you're never seen again. This team plays at its best Kabbah looney out there not at that position. That is. Yes, none of us about Loni as talented as DeMarcus cousins. It doesn't matter what I am. Sure that Steve Kerr will not do is hurt this team long run trying to keep DeMarcus cousins hat. That can't be what it is. No. I feel like the most upside on the cousins thing is that maybe they signal to other free agents, they wanna court, look how well we did buy boogie cousins, because it meant so much to him to actually play in a finals. But the other big. Should I have about this, of course, is will the raptors take advantage of the fact that Kevin Durant is not around? Right. And I say that because I think the weapons are going to do this thing that LeBron did against the warriors where they're going to put him on Draymond green. And they're going to expect that pick and roll the best plan basketball with Stephan. Draymond. And so will end up guarding Steph, which is great. Because all the other shooters basically can stay home. The defense is can stay home on them all that. A when Durant comes back, this is why you just end up losing to Golden State. Every time you play team with Kevin Durant on think take advantage exception to rent not being there. Honestly, just by having Hawaii Leonard in the first place, because the benefit of having him, if nothing else number one is you have a guy who can guard, Kevin Durant. Now that guy doesn't have to guard, Kevin Durant. And it happens to be that he can guard Steph curry, whether he's garden, Draymond switching or of you just garden Steph curry for the sake of it. So I figured. Yeah. On that basic level, they'll take advantage of the fact that he's not there. Now defense Toronto gonna play if they play the solid deep, visit they played against Milwaukee, which I think, is easier because Milwaukee was trying to. Initiate offense would a dude who was six eleven and every time they doubled they went for the ball and he didn't have anything to do is gonna be a little trickier, trying to do this against Golden State. But if they play decent of defense, they've got who appears to be an unguarded will do in that is Kawhi Leonard. Like, do you think that Klay Thompson can just manned up guard him forty eight minutes in the course of a game? Because Klay Thompson is a great defender. But do you think he can do that? I don't think it's going to be Klay Thompson job and also Andre dollars job, and some other combination of other help defenders, because that is the offense the other part of this conversation is that Leonard is up for canonization in this series because he would be defying the math conventionally understood about how to win title now to contend for one you need stars. They have Kawhi Leonard any second hottest player on the rafters. Bomani, this Fred van bleed the post pregnancy new dead. Fred, bent, leaned who is making every three pointer imaginable, if they do this, if the raptors do this, my God, that is free, if they if they win this series Leonard could argue that this feat is as impressive. Is literally anything. Lebron James is ever done. I agree. Now the NFL owners who continue to chase. They're sociopathic dream of an eighteen game regular season. The Washington Post reports that just like into Goshi aces and the twenty eleven collective bargaining agreement. The league is pushing for two more regular season games and the revenue that would bring the players vehemently opposed this as they were in twenty eleven Pablo high is playing now slowly painfully and for that reason insultingly this is not merely a flex, this is taught. This is not actually a way to begin negotiation. It is a sign that you do not fear. Anything about was on the other side of this table. This is the NFL doing the New Zealand rugby team haka dance. It's trying to intimidate and terrify them because we all know who needs the money on the table more it's always going to be the players and the NFL knows that. Yeah, but I disagree with you about this. If another reason then this isn't going to happen, there is no level of flex or intimidation possible behind eighteen game season. That's going to make the. Go for it. I don't think there's any trade that that'll be made to get an eighteen game season off the table. Not the NFL decide they wanna go hard on this and push it all the way I bet you will miss gains before it gets to a point of the players accepting an eighteen game season. Now, what concessions does the league think they can get out of this. Maybe I'll be curious there, but I don't think it's nearly as much a flex as much as this is dream. This is what they want, and they're going to keep asking for it, but I actually agree on that level because this is totally unrealistic to achieve what it does seem to signal is, we actually know that we know it's unrealistic. So all they really get is the external sense that, oh, we gave something up in that exchange of concessions, that you just mentioned except the players know it the media knows it. Everybody knows it. It just seems like a thing you do to say to the other side, just how unworried we are about how this is gonna make us. I don't know. I guess I don't maybe that's what it is. Because I think they exist in a perpetual state of unworried about how anything makes them look. But I don't know. I don't see this as a particular one the other thing argument that I think. Easy to dismiss them. This is the idea that somehow this is going to be like the trade for marijuana policy than the players would be willing to take on eighteen gained in order to be allowed to smoke weed a as if every player smokes weed, and be as though the real wheat smokers, Donata beat your test already and therefore, don't really need to make that Trey. No, they're gonna flex this. They're going to push in the league really really, really really, really wanted there. We're just going to miss games. But I don't think they want it that bay. They just want to try to get to that place covered up net debt, Zeke and Amari gift paid by Jerry. Jones was yelling Heinen's brought to you by the five dollar Guerande. Nachos box only a Taco Bell things earthlings, I knew being to you from above the Heineken river appear seventeen. A love this. I said, I was g q Volvo was expected. So if I say something sarcastic about that, like it works that way you wanna do you try to dress like Seth Rogan put her on the wall to wall. We have. Oh. The way right? Saying the last year's G Q the new year involves dressing like you're officiating in Iowa caucus ceremony, which is what band collar? And Seth Rogan actually do sort of accomplish. What are you accomplish? I wanna -ccomplish that. Oh, quote, twenty leave is up for a little bit longer to marinate in the Bomani Jones that you wanted to bring the rush to the shoe. It's a makeup brush, Pablo de people who do that at those shoots. But I guess you ain't never had one one day one day. Maybe you'll don't to. I quote, this organization is extremely loyal. Those things get resolved. So Jason Witten about how he expects the Cowboys to extend that Prescott Ezekiel Elliott Amari Cooper. So Bomani, how would you react in terms of that thought process on extending these guy? I mean, I'm sure the Cowboys have been very loyal to Jason Witten, right? And if we took this back about twenty five years, you go to sage. Yeah. They were very loyal to Troy Aikman. They name is Smith wanted his money, and all of a sudden it was a little bit difficult for them to find it. So, yeah, maybe they are loyal, but in the end the market is going to dictate, whether these three guys get side Hooper. I figure he won't have that much of a problem because they gave them a first round pick form. They can't show it look bad, not get him Prescott. But so many quarterbacks they're going to get him. It's that guy that has to worry because when you sign a running back on a second contract, you get to pay the money. But the carries you already got those, those have already been logged. And I'll know of Jerry's going to do that. Ask the Marco Murray about that. But here's why I'm worried about nachos Zeke but these other two guys if I represent them or are them. It's the fact that Steven Jones has been talking a lot about how he wants what Tom Brady has given the patriots. He wants the hometown discount, and he believes that and he said, as much at a golf tournament earlier this month, because he thinks that the Cowboys brand the organization it offers something that no other team offers if you win a Super Bowl, and that is the argument, he is making you got to actually add talent alongside these big money contracts. If you win a Super Bowl with the Cowboys, they will put you on TV in the broadcast booth. You can have all of these other jobs. Now, you raise the good point. Is that truly available to all three of these people or is it only available to certain other? Here's the other one if for what you're saying they want guys give the whole town discount. If Tom Brady every which in New England and said, guess what? I'm not giving you the hometown discount. Guess what they would do they would give him his money because they went not have any other option. They don't have any option. But the pay Prescott unless they don't want to sign him long-term, fine. Franchise back to back years and put yourselves in the Kirk cousins who Asian if you want to. They know that they have. No other option. I don't know if they're gonna give them the thirty million dollars a year necessarily, but he is going to get paid. The running back as is always the case with running backs. Good luck, buddy. Now you have these guys cheap and you didn't do much with it at the time. Whoa. The Los Angeles Clippers and said to have quietly looked into the feasibility of person in the portion of the rights to Leonard's, claw, logo that is still owned by Nike. Row, Mark Stein. And the New York Times was telling you about the clippers pursuit of Kawhi Leonard that is thirsty as you could possibly imagine. The clippers have intended for Kawhi Leonard to know that they are doing everything possible to plan his perfect birthday party to plan, his perfect super Sweet Sixteen. They want to know what he likes what he doesn't like what's available. That is not regulated by the salary cap that they could actually do they hire. All these guys to recruit them. They hire all these GM's. They just had Doc Rivers say how much Rosalind Michael Jordan. This seems like it can't actually happen. They'll because of the salary. Well, I mean, are you sure that they're doing this to give it to? Yes. I think that's the idea is a recruiting. I mean, maybe or they're getting it because if they get him then they have the logo, and they themselves can profit off him that seems to be the case to me because this is obviously a salary cap violation this at the same to be one where you do it. And then find out later, whether or not you can serve the capital and this and give it to him. There's no way that you're going to pay for something. And then give. Into somebody then argue that it's not a salary cap violation. What was it? The Mavericks, got in trouble when Dennis Rodman state at Mark Cuban's house. Yes. So I have a different set of questions about what they're doing if they're playing to get the to them is not going to happen. Then what, what are they going to keep it? No. I how does it play? I think the whole idea is, we will get this and show. Hawaii Leonard how much thought we put into his existence and therefore that'll be convincing. I think it will be stopped because the CBA has to explicitly ban such a move, but I think we know about this, because the clippers want us on some level to know how much they care about what I'm asking if they get it then. What right. Like if they acquire this, then what is the next play on this? That's what I think, is interesting because everything is all about yet. They're trying hard to get him to go there. And I hope they understand how much they want him. There's probably not going to be the differentiating factor. Whether or not he comes there and not he's maybe the best thing that they've got to offer. But if he wants to go to LA, and that's the reason why he wants to be there then that's going to be the reason it is. But at this point, they've done everything they can do this is like studying. The night before it is. And the reality is that the Toronto Raptors just passed their tests, there in the NBA finals able way better team than the clippers if I'm the raptors. I am furious that a team with shake, you'll just Alexander in a bunch of cap space and theoretical copyright holdings, can actually convinced that guy complaint for them. It's cold up there covered up next father versus son in basketball. Oh, yeah. You want this high noon is also a podcast has one too. So do I, but, you know, who doesn't get cute little guy on the lower left? You may have heard of New York City rats. Well, here's what on. Lost in this to me a shout out to the one person on the train to take video this. You know, why nobody else is on the train because everybody else saw to rant and got off this person was like, oh, no, I see an opportunity for photo journalism is a little king of diamonds in that realm. Look at that that's an art. They do much. They did much to work at king dominance, when it was. All right. There you go. Number eighty six hour, that's how fast rose pitch, Glenn Spartans. Pitch was. They hit Tim Anderson and his first at bat last night. Promise sparkman to be injected immediately to start. It is April, seventeen guys may remember this this, and they bet. Well, you'll see you right there. You don't see it on to replace. So we fell in love with Anderson. This is when we first heard of Tim Anderson also get that, so he did that we would the whole right chain that they got. And then, of course, it had to go there in the bud talk. Yeah, yeah. And that, you know, it got a little got a little rambunctious after that we are really stretching this out. But it is memorably right in the buttocks here, we have wasting memorably. Yes, I not, by the way, that's supposedly change up as six miles an hour, which is still pretty swift. I would say so. But what happens here? Of course, the helmet goes flying off the pitcher. Right. Right. Well, the question is did seem purpose to you given that it wasn't change it? Well, I don't have a problem with the pitcher getting booted for this, because the helmet, flew off, man, like if you're trying to hit somebody at any speed and it hits your head that feels like it's worthy of policing, especially when the context that we didn't show there is remember we had to get Joe Torry in here litigating. What kind of punishment you get for calling someone a week, glee weekly? Edward that thing. Yeah. Okay. But here's the thing you said that if you're trying to hit somebody and you hit them into hit the first part is where was he actually trying to hit him because the pitcher did appear to indicate that he was not trying to do that, if he was going to try to do that he would go buy it in a different way. It just doesn't matter in this case, because they got to stop this before it starts period. Like, sometimes it don't matter what she was trying to do. Right. So that's where I get this out of it forget about if you would try to you did do this. These are the circumstances, if they're going to get it wrong. As on Pires. They're going to get it wrong on the side of caution. Now, Tim Anderson does seem to impute some motive here because he says this is now a forever beef which I love as a general concept. But I also wonder as a baseball culture question. Can you try and get away with hitting somebody on purpose, because the guy did flex his hand as if it was an off speed pitch that got away from them. What do you actually have to own it with your backup? Right. And your chest out. You're actually Matt. Well, no. You should. I mean these in theory, because if you believe that you were just adhering to what the code dictate you supposed to do then you stand tall and that truth. That's why do fair question as whether or not. That's what he was trying to do because he didn't do it like that. Our next number twenty. How many rushing attempts quarterback? Lamar Jackson will not be attempting per game this season said owners, owner of the ravens Steve, shotty and his first public comments and more than a year. So Bomani is wise. The have Lamar Jackson run less. Yes, it is very wise, to have him. Run. Lizzy ran the ball seventeen times a game last year. That is like actual running back sort of dumping. Right. You can't do that with your quarterback until Jackson said that he was a little surprised. They got a system change, whatever that is going on. But didn't anybody really think they were gonna come out here running the veer again, this year as a strategy, this makes sense? Lamar Jackson the last time we saw him was against the chargers, and he had I believe seven sacks and three fumbles and ended up losing the game. And it was a six point game which must have left a bad taste in everyone's mouth within simply as a smokescreen, don't you want to declare to everybody else, whether or not you have faith in his ability to transform into a full-fledged passer who want to tell everybody else. We're going to try to do something different purely from an Xs and os perspective goes there. You're saying tell them now that you're not going to do. You did last year. So they won't you the film of last year. Something like that. Yes. Make them have multiple thoughts multiple concerns in terms of what you're going to get from the ravens the season I feel like you would have the ravens out thinking themselves, just a we bit with this principle, because I guess you could go ahead and do that. But you're still going to have a preseason where you're running something close to what it is that you are going to run. I don't think that teams are going to reasonably assume that offense that they had last year was going to be the same exact one anyway. No matter what, what a guy like that. You're going to be putting up new film at all these points at some point, people were going to catch up. So I guess maybe the smokescreen can work for a couple of weeks as you described it, but that wouldn't do much along. I don't think well for the long end of things they did add a bunch of really fast receivers in the draft a bunch of really fast running backs in the draft. They added Mark Ingram. It seems like the goal is to surround him with playmakers. Now, whether a guy who's never hit sixty percent accuracy on those passes can maximize them. That's what I guess we'll be finding out. And closing for years. I've warned you there's a scar running rampant in these streets. Ness sky is something. I've call is sufficient dead. Right here. What does this look at this? All right. Now, how do you think is going to go right? Daddy's out here in jeans. I bet you think you know how he gets down. Right. You know how, you know, cats get down when they hoop in jeans a black shoes. It's something. Hold on one appears to be their street in front of what appears to be their neighbors at what kind of dead, he allows himself to don't what did you not tackle him? Why? Is he allowed to get a running start? Why are you staying in so four under the basket? What the hell is wrong with you? Where did they teach you how to be daddy? Why did you allow your son to charge back up like one of those like Hot Wheels racing cars and then try this again? And by the way in the restricted area. I will. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got you here. Here's what I'm saying here to pops as this goes, all if that boy, hit any level of respect for you. He went never consider doing such a thing. He would never think of this, this tells you everything they, he believes about you witnesses inside. Joe soul when he went ahead and he yams on you in this way, the sad part is that pops at the beginning of this clip is already grabbing the shorts as it were. It looks like he's tired already like this seems to be the end of a very long day that ended with, like potential areas after this is over. He got a welcome that little boys room and drop off a stack of bills because you man of the house now, right? Like all the way up. Boy, made himself a man of the house, you better make them pay the bills in closing. I knew and has become television's foremost thority on the thown, OSA face laughing. So it is my solemn duty to introduce you now to the iron man, a face Levick. Spoiler alert for those in game. But. That's on the right that Donald on the left. Donald on the left has been undefeated that was pretty that was a lot. Oh, it's not a good shot. Wouldn't have wouldn't get a contract this video. We've never seen before, by the way, they gave you would on it, man. It's the second. Oh, that look like a little bit of a cheek like he did yesterday two year round table. Wow. He just woke up. Are you not allowed to have a decent haircut? If you compete in this, I think that having a bad hair advantage, competitively. Because look at these guys, it's not that it helps competitive somebody tells you, you're here. Well, he'll go scared. Yeah. What is that? It's still going at here cut, but the point is they're still going. They're still standing, these guys remain standing. Space. Like the neck muscles on these gentlemen. Like that's where it is. Right. I imagined there. I- lynching. It's this you making it really hard for me to watch this talking about irrelevant things, could grace decks muscles are very relevant here. And in fact, that's why I'm not really afraid of this competition. Won't do this. What do you mean? You mean I get to slap you?

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"Crude oil is crude natural gas is pure. That's why Pennzoil's based oil is made from natural gas not crowed gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence for aware test using sap five W. thirty. NFL training camps are underway and head coaches are talking today on NFL live. We're going to take you all around the country with our coaches camp has tore. Welcome to NFL live on this Friday with Damien Woody Kimberly Martin and Rob Niche Vicennium Dan Grazziano, and over the next hour, you are going to hear from a lot of NFL coaches from training camps around the League. We're GONNA take a Dallas Minnesota Kansas City and Tampa just to name a few. But we begin in Foxborough Massachusetts the eleven time defending AFC east champions are trying to figure out how to keep that streak going without Tom Brady. They're hoping the man who can do it is former Panthers quarterback Cam Newton, his new coach spoke today. We've done a lot of as all walk-throughs lot information's been transferred to all the players. And he's worked very hard. Now. I'd say has all of our players have we have you know hard-working group I'd say it certainly all the quarterbacks at that position those guys have. been locked in then focused that have worked extremely hard all four of them can't hard working kid he really is. Always. A big gap. For sure just as physical presence I've played against some a couple of times before and You know he's always been a great player where that's. This versatility is ability to run the ball or pass as well. is been able to do that high level for many years and so he's come in right away head down trying to pick it up as quick as possible. For more on the Patriots we bring in the Best Patriots reporter in the land it'd be ESPN's Mike Reese joins us now Mike what are your thoughts on what you heard from the Patriots today? Well, Dan, you have to love the sixty eight year old bill belichick calling the thirty one year old Cam Newton. A hardworking kid we're all kids in bill belichick's world. But on a serious note, it's the old saying you never get a second chance to make a first impression and by all accounts Cam Newton is making a solid first impression on his patriots, coaches and teammates a few words that stand out to me that I've heard from them talking about Cam Newton Energy, intelligence presence, and well, Bill Belichick doesn't WanNa make this about Cam Newton. He's always trying to deflect and talk about all the quarterbacks seems like so far so good in terms of how Newton is meshing with the Patriots. Yeah, and I think it's probably the first time. We've ever seen a hat like that on on the field at Patriots training camp. So Cam Newton already bringing about changes there in terms of being a kid Mike I think we can all be kids as long as we believe it the Patriots lost the second most snaps of any team from last season trailing only Cam Newton's former team the panthers Tom Brady Kyle Van Noy Jamie Collins all left is free agents and then projected starters Marcus Cannon Dante. Patrick Chung, all opted out under the COVID nineteen protocols so. Cam is in New England trying to beat out jared stood him for the starting quarterback job there while Brady were pretty sure has the starting job locked up in Tampa Bay. So I'm looking at these two guys in these two situations and rob I wanNA start with you. Would you say there's more pressure on Cam? Newton or Tom Brady, this season. I'm GonNa go with Cam Newton, and that's because the expectations for the Patriots. Every single year are to win a super bowl not just win your division. I. Want you to think about this since two thousand eight the Patriots have not lost the division. So that's eleven seasons in a row. After you win a division in the Patriots Organization they put your t shirt wrapped in a rubber band in the hat you look at it, you throw it behind you you throw it in your locker. It really doesn't mean much to you because you know that your job is to get to that big game, the Super Bowl and win the super bowl. So Tom Brady and Tampa if he wins wins the division there, they'll carry them off the field I mean the pressure that is on Cam Newton to come into the. Station and Kinda taped the lead. So to speak and get to work Tom Brady has been so many times. I think that puts extra pressure on Cam Newton to come into the Patriots Organization to replace the greatest quarterback of all time. That's pressure Tom Brady on the other hand. If he goes down the Tampa, he wins the division guess what it's the best team to do it in the last ten years. So I think that the pressure is squarely on. Cam. Newton. Love. But I completely disagree I. One Hundred Percent Brady because Brady may have six rings but he is six round pick mentality still, and where's the hype train? The hype train is in top Obey Bay. What have we been talking about with the Patriots all the players who aren't there anymore, all the guys who have opted out. Cam. Newton hasn't played fourteen games in two years. So candidates coming up injuries it's a new team who were the leaders is going to be a New England. Conversely in Tampa I mean look at this roster I. Think it's Super Bowl or bus for Tampa, and he's replacing Jameis Winston I think Tom is looking at this situation like I'm going to show that I can win. Without. Bill. Belichick. Listen I love my friend Kimberly Morten but I'M GONNA disagree. I'm GonNa go with Cam Newton listen the last time we saw really high football from Cam. Newton was the first half of two, thousand eighteen. You know all the questions that's been asked about Cam news is he healthy? Those questions are going to continue to remain until we see Cam Newton field and producing the level he was like he was during the two thousand eighteen season before he got injured. So when I look at when I look at quarterback. Tom Brady concern. We're not going to wipe out his twenty year legacy with the new. England patriots. Last time I checked this guy that went to non sue bold one six as a accumulated a bunch of records as far as. You know the record books so his legacy is already establishing done whatever he does down in Tampa Bay it's really icing on top of the cake, but it's all Cam Newton plan on a one year deal to try to reestablish where he as far as hierarchy in the national football league. Rob First of all I want to know how many of those t shirts are still wrapped in hats at the back of your locker when you went to clean it out when you left New England and then when you're done with that, I'd like you to predict the Patriots Win The division this year. Honestly. I don't know where any of my had. t shirts are usually just gave him to my dad because I wasn't really going to wear them unless you win a super I'm telling you unless you win the Super Bowl, it's Kinda like a lost season so You know I think that the Patriots have have what it takes because they have bill Bella check as your head coach. He's going to prepare that team and especially with these question marks with the time you don't have as you have. A regular training camp, there's no preseason games bill belichick is going to get that team ready to go for situational football and there's GonNa be teams out there. There won't be coached well, and you have new coaches that new situations who haven't had a chance to coach their team. So you know if you look at the giants, for example, with a new head coach, you think that team is going to be prepared. To Go, it's going to be really tough when you don't have the time in the off season. So I think that the Patriots will be right up there. They only really have to focus on the bills. Miami's up and coming. We know that the jets are a huge question mark this season. So I'm going to say that they're going to go number twelve here and try and win twelve divisions in a row. Bill Check of course, has six Super Bowl rings as a head coach, Andy Reid of the Kansas City. Chiefs finally got his first one last year Kansas City's off season has gone about as well as anybody could have hoped for so far today Andy Reid spoke of the challenged his team faces as it tries to repeat. There's a tremendous amount of urgency that goes into that and tension to detail the. Year coach say this, but it's real if you want to. If you if you want to play at that level and there are a bunch of different things, obstacles, Jeff's go through during the season. I think it's no more evident than the one we just had, and so you've gotta the right mindset and then on top of that every once in a while you a break here, the ball's not rounded bounces funny and you know you gotta you hope it Bounces your way and you get a couple of breaks in there but the attention to detail becomes a huge thing for you and and be willing to work. I think there's a there's a lot of reasons men in its One is because we got great guys in the locker. Room. We've got great guys facility great people in the facility. And it's just overall. It's a it's a fun atmosphere. Every single time you come to work and guys don't want to leave that guys want to keep building off of that and It's a beautiful thing when you have a ownership trust in you WANNA, make change with you in terms of the season in the community And then on top of that, just going out there and playing football with guys who who come to work every single day and and fight their tail off for you minute. Rob Niche, what is the biggest challenge? The chiefs face as they try to repeat. Well, sometimes that super bowl hangover lasts a long time and you have to forget about last year that they had won a super bowl, everyone has a target on the Kansas City chiefs right now whoever they play, it doesn't matter the record of the team that they're about to play. They want to measure themselves accordingly to the championship team, and when you do that I know I have been on. Championship teams the next year, I can remember back when we played the Cleveland the Cleveland browns and they had peyton Hillis. Running all over the field they were breaking out all the flea flickers in the fumble russkies they were doing with ever. They possibly could to beat us and they did. So I'm just saying it's it's a lot tougher when you're the champions because that target is on your back. I was trying to think which team in that division would pose the biggest threat and I'll be honest I. Don't think anybody poses a threat to the chiefs I. Really do think it's on the chiefs understanding that what they're being sold on right now is we're trying to build a dynasty right now this is why was signing all these guys big impact guys, Mahomes, Kelsey, Christians. We need to keep this nucleus intact for us to keep going and build on this thing. I really don't see there being I WANNA put any other team down but I don't see there being that stiff competition in the division I. Think of chiefs are the only thing that can get away. From. Okra. One Super Bowl, what what what is in store for the chiefs this year they try to defend. Well let's. Anyone that rob knows as well as I do anyone that plays the super bowl listen when you win the Super Bowl, a couple of things have to happen. You gotta be healthy of good. You got to have a little luckily aside. This year being a super bowl champion guess what every team that's on every team every week that you face, go against cancer cheap they're gonNA play like it's super bowl. It's immensely harder being a super bowl champion the following year. So a lot of times those things don't don't add up the following year you're not as healthy. You don't have those bounces that you had the prior year. Sometime complacency falls in. That's why you don't see a lot of repeats in the national fully because it's just that art and so when you add it all up to me, those are the obstacles that are in the way of the Kansas City, chiefs this you. Then sixteen years since we had a repeat super, bowl champion, that'd be, Oh, three, oh, four New England patriots. We'll see if the chiefs can pull it off now to an interesting story out of Seattle, the seahawks waived cornerback, Kema silver and earlier this week after he was caught on video trying to sneak a woman into the team hotel, the woman was wearing seahawks gear in an attempt to disguise herself as a player. The League's covert protocols prohibit visitors outside visitors in team hotels, Damian. Everybody had a reaction when they saw this story. What was yours? Come on. I mean really really let's let's. Listen first of all, you undrafted free agent going into your first training camp your whole mindset in this off season truncated off season where you had no off season program no preseason games and you only got a few weeks to get ready for one. Your whole bogus should be trying to make the roster and your love. Is, let, me try to sneak a woman into the team hotel like where's your mindset that man I mean you were all of these years to get to this point. To try to make NFL roster and you blow it over over one night. It's just silly unacceptable. They raise cracking me up my I have the same reaction. How can you be this foolish because how you GonNa? Trust? A player like this on Sunday when you can't even trust that he'd be smart enough to understand he's undrafted rookie, but he's not GonNa be afforded the same. Second Chances and opportunities as guys with status draft picks I mean. Come on now if this were Russell Wilson it would you know if Jamal Adams using they'd cut him. No we might not even hear this story but this is why you have to understand where you stand on the field and he doesn't stand on the field anymore because of this foolish mistake. I just, WanNa to know if she was she likes six to two, twenty, five to thirty. Like how was she trying to be a player? How was she trying to dress like a player? That's like? That kind of messes me up a little bit and ahead to think about like, Oh, let's put on some some seahawks stuff and maybe you'll pass as a player but yeah, like like what he was saying. When you're a rookie or you're a free agent low draft pick you have no leash like you don't have any leeway. You make a mistake they're just GonNa, cut you care. About a rookie who really doesn't have any stance or status on the team get ready and get another guy that's hungry. That's GonNa try and make the right decisions. So I mean the guy made a mistake I'm sure he understands he made a big mistake and now he's looking for a new team. Yeah, lots of Potential things wouldn't have been thought of as big mistakes in past years. We'll be this. You're obviously as we have some fun with it, but obviously, very serious situation as teams try to make sure they maintain at least their team specific bubbles to limit spread of infection and hopefully this season going. As we've told you once or twice here on ESPN. The Dallas cowboys were not able to get a long term deal done with Dak Prescott this off season but they did add some big names all started with the hiring of head coach, Mike McCarthy back in January and ever since then they've added Gerald McCoy Everson Griffen, Alden Smith Don towery Poe ha ha Clinton. Dix Andy Dalton in free agency they also added another weapon for Dak, selecting CD. Lamb in the first round of the twenty twenty NFL draft and for more on cowboys we welcome in ED worder who's in Frisco at cowboys camp where the team practice today for the first time in helmets and shells ed the cowboys have changed head coaches but not I would imagine expectations. Hey football fans Jimmy Garoppolo here to tell you just how glorious your Sundays can be with NFL Sunday ticket dot TV stream all live out of market. NFL Games every Sunday afternoon on your favorite devices never miss your favorite team's your favorite players even your favorite players, favorite players the most glorious Sundays ever are yours no matter where you live or NFL. Sunday. Ticket DOT TV today out of work is only only one game. It'd be access for any given time eligibility restrictions and other conditions apply hey, NFL fans Jimmy Garoppolo here to remind you the NFL Sunday ticket that TV let you stream live out of market games all. Sunday afternoon on your favorite devices to enjoy the most glorious Sundays ever. NFL. Sunday ticket DOT TV. Game extra any given time eligibility restrictions other conditions apply. Exactly, right Jerry Jones said when hiring Mike McCarthy, just the third experience head coach in franchise history that the ability was his proven ability to build a team and build a winner Jones described him as a head coach winds consistently and has done. So at the highest level Steven Jones, the executive vice president team said at the beginning of this camp that he believes this rosters a talented any they've had the past decade. So organizational expectations are high as for McCarthy. He inherits a team believes will score points but has to be capable of protecting leads to win games that's accomplished with the pass rush the addition of Gerald McCoy. Don Atari. Alden Smith and Everson Griffen. All experienced and accomplished defensive lineman addresses that priority and sends a message to the locker room about the commitment of the front office. We want to win. That's the goal we want to win a championship and that's why we're here. To have veteran, Goss decided the ball who have played in big games and. been a part of winning cultures man it's it's awesome. Had As many vets here. And they're ready to win a championship, I'm really applying. You know the front, Office on where they're doing the brain. You know better pass rushes to the Dallas Cowboys one thing I I respect about it is it is only GonNa make me better and make me you know want to. Be The best and being around Great Pass rushers that you know you had the key Diana. And Elvis in order to scrap greatness. Well New Defensive Coordinator Mike Nolan's emphasizing creating turnovers in using disguise challenge offenses defensive line coach Jim Tomasulo wants to have flexibility up front so we can create an exploit matchups. Dan. The defense has been a problem here in the Dak Prescott Ezekiel Elliott Air the cowboys defense ranks twenty seventh in pressure percentage and thirty first in interceptions. Lots of interesting names on that cowboys roster in an effort to address that pass rush coming off an eight eight season. Obviously hoping to do better this year dame they look good on paper. But I feel like we say that all the time about the cowboys, how do you? How do you think they really are? Watching the. Dallas cowboys can be good. They can be really good I. think if you're just going by their roster. They do have one. More talented Ross's in all of football but that's never been a question about the Dallas cowboys. The Real Questions always being coaching and can these guys finish? You know they were able to put up points last year there's no question about that and I think. It would've brought it brought it up to the haven't been able to help seal the deal for the Dallas cowboys. So yes, I believe the Dallas cowboys will be in things, but I'm still picking the Philadelphia Eagles in. For a couple of reasons, one I think the continuity that they have you top to bottom head coach quarterback You know same system in place costing winces proven to be one of the best quarterbacks in the National Football League and I think they definitely improved their roster this off season. So an NFC east I'm going to get the. Philadelphia Eagles and it's definitely about between those two ball clubs. Rodney took the cowboys the. I think the cowboys defensively improved tremendously. I I love the Po- move I think Lawrence is going to be motivated because last year five sacks, I mean he's going to hear people talking about that. You Got Sean Lee. WHO's a veteran who still going to help lead You, look at Everson Griffen who I really like is the defensive end. He's a two, hundred, seventy, five, pound big body guy that can play three downs for you can stop the run So I think that they have tremendous upside defensively when you look at demarcus Lawrence Griffin McCoy poll on the Interior I, just think that they could be very disruptive front if and if this is a big if if they are all motivated to get out there and to prove that they are legit in a contending team, I think they have the ability to win the division with that. Defense. Here's why guys because I was bamboozled by the browns not too long ago I believe in that paper roster looking at that roster it's pretty looks nice editions and then what happens it does not translate on the field not comparing the cowboys to the browns however I'm talking about the danger in just looking at a roster and thinking, okay, this team set they're going to be money, and then they disappoint and what we've seen from the cowboys over and over again, they disappoint despite the talent we the Amari Cooper trade midseason was going to be that final AUMF that takes over the finish line and they disappointed. Eight million last year that was such a disappointing finish. Hopefully for cowboys fans, this season will be different because like you guys are saying the roster immaculate but I wanNA see on the field remember though there hasn't been a defending champion in the NFC east that repeated since two, thousand, three, two, thousand, four when the Eagles did itself Eagles won last year somebody else has to do it and ESPN's football power index gives the cowboys and eleven percent chance. To reach the Super Bowl this year, that is the best number in the NFC behind only the saints and the forty niners. Yeah. Those two guys both can put on a show. There's no doubt about it. Great players with big personalities. If you had to pick one of the two, you're starting team, you need a tight end. Damian. What are you can? You can pick one of those who you take. Listen no disrespect to. Travis Kelsey but. Man My man George can block like this dude is a full grown man blocking on the line of scrimmage and I think that's what makes them so unique is he's like a two way player he's a guy he's the type of got that he can set the edge running game not many tight ends can breathe a focal point in the running game George is and Oh, by the way, he's the focal point in the passing game put San Francisco pointed out of two. So He's a a unbelievable unique player on that. You just don't see around the national football league. You're gonNA, make me choose between chocolate cake and Linguini with clam sauce I love them both they both different at different times but it is all day because of what you talked about Damian. This kid I mean the way he plays the game like he takes so much pride in pancake blog dudes the same way he loves trying to catch sixty yard touchdowns like an open face like t of so much on the field that doesn't even show up in the staff off and that's what you love. This guy I've been in that Locker Room I've felt the energy from him and I know that those guys feed off of his energy as well. I know the defense is a big reason why they made the superbowl but but kittle, he's a different breed just based on the energy of what he's able to do in all facets of the game. Okay hold up. Hold Up I. Just WanNa pump the brakes I know you guys have. A love the love fast with Kiddo the love fest we Kelsey but somewhat people. On this but what about? What? About the original the real wrestling? Ground he's the guy the ring. Yeah we're talking we're talking about because I'm GonNa, tell you something I was I've faced him every single day in practice I had go against him in the run run block. You talk about run blocking that guy took a person and threw him off of the field into the gatorade boxes, gatorade coolers. So I just WanNa talk about Gronkowski. Let's not forget I know we took A. Year off to recharge the batteries, but you're going to have ROB Gronkowski down in Tampa with a motivated Tom Brady. We talked about that earlier I think Gronkowski is going to have that bell around him a bunch of the series he might have it four times five times six we'll see but I think rob Gronkowski is going to be one of the best tight ends in the League if not this year 'cause he. Recharge ready to go. Wait a minute I first of all, I had I knew you slide wrong back into this conversation when we weren't even talking about wrong as one and number two. So right so right now you saying that grow, it's going to be right there with kiddle and having. What, yes. Yes right. All right. Kelsey thirty thirty years old those same age Kelsey grow same age and grow Scott How many touchdowns our seventy something crazy. So, Kimberley's make it as hungry and rob is pumping up his friends that's going on Titan segment but we have other stuff to talk about new on NFL live out there in Las Vegas Raiders Coach Jon. GRUDEN says Marcus Mariota really fired me up today. He has turned a corner with his ankle and he's a dazzling playmaker. He had a very nice day. So for those who haven't been following, Marcus Mariota the former titans quarterback signed a seven and a half million dollar fully guaranteed contract with the raiders this off season presumably the backup Derek Carr who is the starter there still right Kimberly. Easier. He's the starter for now. Right I'm personally not convinced that he's the long term solution not because I don't think Derek Carr is good. But I'm not convinced that the head coach Gruden is convinced and I think that's where it starts he. He clearly likes Mariota, and even Derek Carr is mentioned recently feeling frustrated and disrespected and I mean. That a part of that time him to you know you gotta make plays understand you know he's averaging like six point two air yards per pass last year that was a a league low. Now, they've upgraded the wide receiving corps, which is only going to help Derek Carr and he needs a good season to solidify his status there but it's been six years and we're still asking, Derek Carr, the guy in Oakland. Vegas back that's a problem. Well listen we always we always knew the Jon Gruden as a wondering now, when it came to quarterbacks, you know he always falls in love with the next quarterback and He's always been hyping up Marcus. Mariota. Even when he came out Oregon so there's a reason why Marcus Mariota is in Las Vegas and if our Derek Carr starts to slip you better believe John. GRUDEN's GonNa make that mogul. would be interesting to follow Derek Carr the other day saying that he's tired of being disrespected So perhaps he's motivated to elevate his game this year we will see time now to play a game of sounds good sounds bad where we play a sound bite and our distinguished panel tells us whether it sounds good or sounds bad I up Bruce Arians and Tom Brady have plenty of stuff to work out in training camp. But the head coach says, the quarterback is the least of his worries in fact, he's treating him just like any other guy. He's probably the least of my worries right now. And he's he's he's wearing these to be. More live reps Tom we'll get all his fast snaps in shorts starting tomorrow you know and and and that will help But It's a blocking and tackling game. It's a physical game processed information that he thinks he knows and what he and doesn't know and. Higher. Pace and you know we haven't gone against their defense and we're very complicated defensively. So it'd be a it'd be a lot of fun for him. He's just another guy. You know he just cussed out like everybody else. So. It's it's different that way. Damian what he sounds good or sounds bad. Now this sounds good. Listen players, creatures of habit. Tom Brady's me used to getting customer for twenty years up in New England. So it's not one of them at all. You know this is this is what it's all about him. So you know Tom Brady law was as a chip on his shoulder hell that's exactly what I want to keep me going so sound good to me. I mean it sounds it sounds good but it sounds good. But I don't know if he's a Jag. Jag Hawaii go now. Just, another guy. One time they called me. It offended me. I didn't like that too much. So maybe he might have a little talk to him after that it'd be like you're not just another guy. I mean I'm GonNa, I get you motivated but you're not just. A leak I think you. Nigga make you ride on that like you can't talk to the goat like that like you just know the guy let let's be real here. Bruce come on now. We'll see how that sounds good there in Tampa with Tom Brady and Bruce. Arians next up, we have Jamal Adams. He was traded you'll remember from the jets to the seahawks a couple of weeks back jets defensive coordinator, Greg Williams self-confident individuals says, Adams doesn't know how good he had it in New York and you might get. In Seattle. We're not just to state you know what? All making it more there because they don't use their safety type things all different complexities of not. What they're doing as much as we do. Kashmir. So simple here you know, and then basically we probably won't get any of that stuff. Well, let's just pass it back to we make as many mistakes as he does come on great fire back. Let's have some fun with this. Really. So that's So sad imagine. Across the country minding his own business and you talking about his vanilla coverage three, I mean Greg Williams come on in that one interview human take a shot of Carol and take credit for Adam season last year. I. Don't know I think I'm not sure the last time Greg Williams stiff the super bowl it's been over a decade I mean come on Seattle's doing just fine with their defense they've been into super bowls recently a moment one. That's just as bad as that died goatee he's got. To follow that up, I mean that was. The top man listen. I listen. pekar responded to wave caught people respond you know have a little fun with it but it's true like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You know his brand of deepest has been working for long term and national. Football. League in I'm Jamal Adams is GonNa plug in and and play his behind off. Playing for playoff potential playoff team, super bowl contender I. Think you'll be justified. Put that one a little bit on a tee for you guys. They're finally Baker Mayfield and the Cleveland Browns have a new head coach. His name is Kevin Stansky, and we would imagine the offense would change with the new offensive head coach Mayfield talked about how his mentality is changing during this year's training camp. The past couple years gonNA rollercoaster of emotions and not nearly as much success as I'm you still. So I would say I lost myself you know not having that success not not finding out what was working think I tried different ways of you know trying to have had success and I didn't find it. So I lost myself in that and I wasn't able to be who I am for these guys on the team and I told them that and I told them that if I'm not doing that, hold me accountable. Rob Sounds good or sounds bad. I think that sounds bad sounds like he was a broken man had no confidence. It sounds like he was all the way donald over with and so for me I don't know like where's yet mentally right now is he coming into this season? Questioning is abilities. It sounds like that might be the case considering you know he wasn't what he expected to be. He doesn't know how he's GonNa how is he going to get back to that? So for me, I think it sounds bad you your quarterback to be competent ready to roll. Kimberly mentioned earlier show. CLEVELAND. Burned last year right Oh Man. But I liked that I liked that that sounds good to me because there's nothing worse than people who are not self aware and Baker Mayfield is telling you you know what I realize some things about myself and I just didn't have it you at least once that acknowledgment and that accountability and hopefully for the browns and their fan base this is a much different season for Baker Mayfield. Name. Anyone away. Listen listen I won't Brash Baker. Working. How What I. Won't I won't that guy. So it sounds like to me you know. Like. Yeah. I'm bringing that back. Good him. That's what I want the worked for his rookie year. He had four game winning drives tied for third in the League. Last year he only had one so we'll break the tie I guess in year three.

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Hour 3: Beast Mode is Back?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Hour 3: Beast Mode is Back?

"The third show podcast happy Monday. Happy Christmas Eve Eve if you're still doing your shopping for the holidays. Hope that's going well and hope it's going smoothly. 'cause I know. How hectic stores are Mike at this time of the year? I'm Courtney Cronin. He's Mike Tannenbaum. ESPN front office. INSIDER CIDER I'm NFL. Nation reporter for the Minnesota Vikings. Quick Lee a sportscenter. Update the Baltimore. Ravens earned the top overall seed in the AFC with their thirty thirty one. Fifteen win over the Cleveland. Browns and Lamar Jackson steady franchise record for passing touchdowns with thirty six in two thousand Nineteen Philadelphia. Eagles beat the cowboys boys. Seventeen at six on Sunday. Jerry Jones calls a twenty nine thousand nine cowboy season quote real disappointing. The Eagles now have a chance to win the NFC east with a victory on Sunday. Lebron James missed Sunday's game against the nuggets due to a muscle strain but the Los Angeles Lakers would fall to the nuggets. One Twenty eight one. Oh four their third straight. Lebron on is expected to be in the lineup. Again on Christmas. You know those blink motion activated security cameras amazing right well. Home security just got easier because now blink system start at just seventy nine ninety nine visit blinkprotect dot com slash Dan blinkprotect dot com slash Dan. So the big story. Hey this Monday morning. The Dallas cowboys had a chance to clinch the NFC east. Maybe rewrite a little bit of the narrative from what felt like a lost season and now feels all but he lost season after losing to the Philadelphia Eagles in week sixteen and it all came down to failing to convert on a critical fourth-down situation nation at the end of the game. Here's the call snappers back throwing it deep down. The left side into the end zone for the ball is broken up. Incomplete Sidney Jones. Just made the pliers. What happened because the Adam singled out? I went down to the sideline and put the ball right there. And Sidney Jones made a better play then Prescott or Gallop Call of the game courtesy of one. Oh five point three the fan now Mike you look at this situation situation and you look at what did not happen in this situation. Michael Gallup is their number three receiver and these receivers have really cost AC Prescott in in huge moments because of drops in a lot of other things they've plagued the offense but when your best players Zeki Elliott and not to mention Amari Cooper in Randall. COBB are on the sideline for the play that defines your season pretty much as somebody who's worked in front offices for a long time been around teams teams in play callers in the whole gamut. What's your takeaway when you're watching that? Yeah I think the essence of football comes down to match ups especially in the salary cap. Era Courtney in terms of what's GonNa give you the best chance to win this week or this part of the field and its players not plays and Mario Cooper has incredible incredible short area quickness and a great route runner and when your seasons on the line the ball has to go to Zeke Elliott. Where Amari Cooper and it's inconceivable to me? You made a great point. You have a timeout fourth-down make sure Mark Cooper's in the game and the interesting thing when Jason Garrett was talking about why these guys were not on the field one thing with Amari Cooper. I believe it was calling. You just needed a blow. He just needed to get rest or whatever this team had all of. Its timeouts how it's going into that situation like that to me does that are these excuses. Or what are we make this. Because he said the same thing with Ezekiel Elliot that he felt like he needed rest. Your best players on the field when this defines your season. Why would you choose right then in there to take him out again like to me? It's such an important four in play. Call Timeout get with Kelly. Moore your office coordinator. What's my personnel grouping? That gives us the best chance. Meaning is a three receivers as two tight ends. Do we want to go in a situation where he put cooper emotion to get the match what we want to go into a bunch of stacked go trips and put him on the back end side. There's a lot of different ways to get your best player. You're in the best position possible. Is it a quarterback. Run something that you know. They haven't done a lot of but could be effective against your blitz situation. Where if they're anticipating anticipating man-to-man There's a lot of things to how shout there. So I think that's where Jason Garrett should say. Hey you know what too much writing on the line we got one play. We need eight yards words with highs and best chance of success and who should the ball go through to get there so Dak Prescott goes into this game with a shoulder. Injury didn't look all the injured yesterday so I dunno if we're ever really going to find out just how bad that was and what that means for week. Seventeen if he's still in a do or die situation to get into the post season if if they win the eagles lose their in but Ezekiel Elliott. Last week. I thought was really interesting. He said if they WANNA feed me forty fifty times in reference to DAX injury jury and just how questionable you know his play might have been going into this week sixteen game. He was ready for it and really the last few weeks he's been an afterthought thought which is so baffling when you talk about the salary cap era and how much they paid him in in in a time in the NFL where running backs are not getting. The type of contracts that Zeke received after holding out for most of training camp and then returning from Kabo just in time for week one featuring him in the offense that he's had one game over one hundred yards ars rushing since week nine and that was the one hundred seventeen yards. He posted last week in the win. Over the rams. What's going on here with this offense because that to me is so confusing when when your money and what you're paying says this guy is a centerpiece of our offense but your play calling does not reflect that what you said earlier makes like a ton of sense to be and really creates a lot more questions and answers which is he was in Kabul under contract and you have a couple of players that are sitting right there in the last year of their contract so players that had more less time on their contracts in Amari Cooper and Dak Prescott and you're rewarding during the behavior somebody holding out you feel like it's so important to pay him? I think that setting a horrible message. I think you're rewarding the wrong behavior. But that's a story for a different discussion but my point is you're GonNa have this guy sit out of camp go to Kabo and pay him so obviously he's critically important and the biggest game of the year you only going to thirteen times. That's totally inconsistent. It's either Ezekiel Elliott's incredibly important. And you have to feed on the ball or you say you know what you you could go hold out and a little. Bit like with Melvin Gordon and the chargers courtney ahead you could sit out. We're not GONNA pay now on the other side of this Carson. Wentz is had a nice little uptick despite despite missing a lot of key pieces on offense due to injury. They've been decimated at the wide receiver position for for several weeks now and they still managed to get it done. He decides he wants to go. By way of the short passes was twenty six twenty one twenty nine ninety percent completion percentage on passes of ten air yards or fewer against the cowboys the second completion of his percentage on those passes so he knows what works and it seems like this is a team that we saw with Philly in years past. They're getting hot aren't if you want to call it hot. Maybe a little bit more than lukewarm. At the right time considering they'd still be back in their way into the playoffs needing to win and need in the cowboys to lose. Its went somebody that you've trust at this time of year given the season that he's had but what's happened now and the narrative for this team and December is he somebody thinking carry the eagles pretty far in the playoffs. Well how about this Gordian the last three weeks you stone for nine hundred ten yards six touchdowns no interceptions. That's pretty good In three weeks and I think that's the definition the greatness to me it's always about king impact others and right now carson. Wentz is playing with Greg Ward. He's playing with a lot of guys. No one's ever heard of before four Nelson has been hurt. alshon Jeffery Alshon Jackson's on I r what he's able to do with two really good tight. End Zach Ertz in Dallas. Goater has been really impressive. They're also missing Jordan Howard so Carson Wentz is really doing what true great players which is they impact others at Philadelphia Elsia as we mentioned. We'll need to win the final game of the season in order to win the east of the cowboys lose but Dallas is still very much in this and it could come. It does come down to a week. Seventeen game for them as well. You're listening to the Dan Le Batard show on. ESPN radio the ESPN APP and Sirius. Xm Channel Eighty presented by progressive insurance insurance against appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance. Line download the vivid seats apple. Enter Promo Code. ESPN twenty five at checkout to get ten percent off your next order. Don't I'm just Bhai any seat. Get a vivid seat now. It's almost the time of the season where we see coaching changes. What goes into finding out the right choice? We will ask Mike Next. That's coming up but first this new brand commercial segment is brought to you by old spice sweat defense and their longtime NFL spokesperson rookie. Montanez sweat. Who they've always been a fan of and never would run once? Run away from any other adds to the contrary in fact old spice would never consider person named sweat and the real sweat as the same thing thing. That would be crazy so reminding you that. Montas sweats name is sweat. He plays defense and old spite sweat. Defense is a superior defense against sweat. Now isn't that a great coincident. Hi This is enough. That's enough Goodbye breaking news coming up next. We have a potential return of one of the best personalities in football coming out of retirement. You are listening to the Dan Le Batard show on. ESPN ESPN radio the ESPN APP and Sirius. Xm Channel Eighty you know you love about the show on ESPN radio. Dan lebatardshow on ESPN radio. Oh the ESPN APP and Sirius. Xm Channel Eighty presented by progressive. Insurance guests appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line. I'm Courtney Cronin. NFL nation a reporter for the Minnesota. Vikings he's Mike Tannenbaum are ESPN front office insider and former NFL general manager. We've got a really cool segment coming up because I like to geek out on things that NFL reporters typically deal with all the time Etan coaching surges. What goes on inside front offices and behind closed doors? We're we'RE GONNA get to that with Mike because we have a fantastic resource in somebody who has gone through a number of coaching searches but first some breaking news reports saying seahawks running back. Marshon Lynch is considering a reunion Lynch traveling the Seattle on Monday to discuss rejoining the injury riddled seahawks. According to reports Lynch spent the last part part of six seasons with the Seahawks from twenty ten to two thousand fifteen the seahawks are thin at running back following injuries on Sunday to Chris Carson. He injured his hippies likely out for the season and CJ precise who broke his arm and he's out for the season rookie. Six round picks. Pick Travis homer who has who has eight career carries is currently the team's only healthy running back the seahawks. The Hawks are meeting Monday with Robert Turban source confirmed. ESPN AFTER NFL network. I report in it now Mike. It's crunch time for this team. Which is currently slated needed to be the number five seed in the NFC playoff picture? They have a showdown with the San Francisco. Forty niners for a chance to win the division and help their own seating going into the playoffs. What do you think's going to happen here? And if marshawn says hey I do WANNA come back. I mean how. How quickly do you try? Try to get him out there. And what does this week seventeen game look like what's really interesting about that. Courtney is and the shows how important and critical the bye week could be. Ideally ideally if you sign somebody like marshawn Lynch you gotta get them up to speed even though he's been there before there's different terminology so you wanted to get acclimated to the system. But more fundamentally is his conditioning interesting so you WANNA see. He's probably going to be a couple of weeks away. People don't walk around the in game shape so you probably would wanNA treat this week. Almost like a preseason game where he wanted to get him in a game get him some reps maybe some past protections making sure these really comfortable with the system and get them out and really work hard and really hope you. Obviously you win the game. The by and then you'd have two weeks again. I'm ready for the next real meaningful game and put them on a very strict routine eighteen of like again almost like two week training camp at the end of December. But that's what pro football is courtney you do the best you can within reason and this is what happens. And that's why I said like what other notable players are available so we're like Antonio Brown not knowing if his eligibility would be cleared up but he was a guy that surly it was you know thought about possibly signing. That's why we saw our own Josh. mccown leave the broadcast booth inside Philadelphia because the injuries and you have very limited resources so it's a mild surprise. I'm surely not shocked. That marshawn Lynch may sign. An amount of injuries. Have have hurt the sea hawks yet. Somehow they've been able to overcome the losses to the tight end group that running back group and now peak carol announcing yesterday that left Tackle Duane Brown is going to undergo surgery on his knee. So no pressure at all for Russell Wilson in the midst of this MVP level campaign. And all that he will have to do in order to get his team out of wild card weekend. Should the Seahawks Fox be in position to be playing That first Saturday or Sunday in January but with marshawn lynch remember he was with the raiders. Last two seasons I played fifteen games for them in two thousand seventeen and then two thousand eighteen six games. had ten touchdowns in that time over one hundred over one thousand yards rushing now. Is it as as simple as expecting this as a plug and play guy because he wasn't Seattle for such a huge part of his career from two thousand ten to two thousand fifteen now how much the offense. It's changed their. I think is certainly relative but to expect that he's going to come in and be an impact player. How realistic is that? It's a really fair point the guy that's it's Interesting to me you mentioned Travis Homework. He's the guy that was at the University of Miami who has alive explosiveness. Obviously he knows the system and he's you know obviously Lee in shape in there. I I think for somebody like marshawn Lynch he would have to learn the system because again Brian. Schottenheimer is the offensive coordinator. He was not the offense coordinator. The last time marshawn was there and I think what we're talking about is a complementary role. I'm sure impede Carol's dreams. The ideal situation is the old axiom. Courtney which is passed the score and run to win an envisioning giving marshawn lynch five to seven meaningful carries. You know in the last eight minutes of a game To hold onto a lead time milk o'clock so I think there's a role but I think we gotta madge expectation say what's the most realistic and appropriate role and the other axiom. You you left off. There was hand off to marshawn. When you're inside the goal line inside the five yard line? Is They learned. Has Everybody has learned and and continually for all of time this is the Dan Lebatardshow petard show on. ESPN radio the ESPN APP and Sirius. Xm Channel Eighty tune into the ESPN daily podcast bringing a deep dive into a single-story from one of ESPN's hundreds hundreds of reporters hosted by Meena kind presented by Dell Small Business Download Subscribing Review Espn daily available. Wherever you enjoy your podcast now? It's is at the beginning of the segment. And I'm so glad that we have all this time this afternoon to talk about this. Mike wrote an article that I encourage all of you to go look at on. ESPN DOT COM about about the process of general manager in front office goes through in order to hire coat. Hire a coach coach. And there's a lot more Mike as you can. Obviously Veasley attest to that goes on in this process that we don't know about your part of this on four different occasions as an NFL executive with the New York jets and the Miami Dolphins Vincent. Those hires led to her Edwards. Eric Mangini Rex Ryan and Adam Gates. I WANNA start here because we talk about shortlists and everybody having ving. You know the names of coaches that they want kind of able to rattle them off the tongue right away when you're in a position to do this whether you're on a losing team or somebody maybe on a team that you just don't know it might come down to the final few games whether the team makes the playoffs or not. When are you building your list? I mean is that it's an ongoing process. Yeah no it's great point court he absolutely. It's an ongoing process from a standpoint of when you're in the front office UNI names for every position because you don't know when someone's GonNa get hurt by the proverbial bus so your video director your medical director your head coach your quarterback that's a big part of your responsibility and I was told are Are Scott Department like when you're on college campuses. I would name names for future play caller and future head coaches and strength coaches. So it's an iterative process. It's ongoing doing and you always have to be ready and always hope for the best in terms of how this is going to go but you have to be prepared for the worst in your firm believer in that using search firms to find and your guy no a lot of teams will go turnkey. That's one of the big popular ones. And they've placed general managers. They've played college coaches. NFL coaches. I'm in there. Certainly other ones out there. I just know from covering the Minnesota Vikings that was that has been one that this team has used before. But when you're making a decision like that as a as an NFL executive you've chosen and not to go that route. How come I think there's a I think there's a time and a place as a check and balance but it's a huge part of your job? Responsibility is to be scouring the verb. You're not looking you're scouring and you're talking to as many people as possible and I think L. Certain Limited role court. Either there's a place for but again you're charge is to know who. The next coaches are candidly in this cycle but two years from now five years from now who who has met or exceeded expectations. WHO's been able to win like for example one of the guys that would intrigue me is Urban Meyer? Not Because of what happened at Ohio state but he's a guy that one at Bowling Green Green. Utah Florida then. Ohio state if I was hiring a college head coach like somebody like Jim. Calhoun going back a number of years. Why was he able to win at northeastern university? I want to go all the way back so this is a process. That's a multi year process and candidly. You'll looking for leadership and more importantly the more I looked looked at it. You're looking at for growth mindset which is are do you have the ability to take meaningful feedback to take information from all different places and then make the best decision or war do you have a fixed mindset. Meaning I believe what I believe. It's my way or the highway and over time as much as I've studied it. What I've learned is the the commonality of success or people that have the ability to listen and be flexible change so roughly about seven or eight teams right now maybe more depending upon where people's hot hot AH seat list are that are going to be in line to hire a head coach going into the twenty twenty season? I have a big question for Mike coming up next the hardest hurdle Oh for a franchise. How long do you wait even once you have a lead candidate identified? That's next on the Dan Le Batard show on. ESPN radio the ESPN APP and Sirius. Xm Channel Eighty eighty tar show on ESPN radio. got here this new brand new commercial segment has been brought to you by old spice wet defense and their longtime NFL spokesperson rookie. Montas sweat who they have always been a fan of and never wants would run any other add to the contrary in fact old spice wouldn't ever consider sitter a person named sweat and real sweat as the same thing. That would be crazy remind you that. Montas sweats name is sweat. He plays defense and old old spice wet defense is the superior defense against sweat is not a great incidents that different al by GEICO presents. Not Again. Another other voicemail from your roommate. Hey man so I was in a rush to get to work and I left the back door open. Could you shut it. I lifted wide open. While you're there could you also turn off off the oven. And all of the burners Menam never let me use the oven. I wonder why the Geico Insurance Agency could help. Keep your personal property protected like if it's your roommate's first time operating oven visit GEICO DOT com to see how easy it is to switch and save on Renter's insurance live at that show podcast today. We're going to try to keep those things going. I'm Courtney Cronin. NFL Nation reporter for the Minnesota Vikings Ease Mike Tannenbaum. ESPN front office insider and former NFL. General Manager you're listening to the Dan Le Batard show on. Espn Radio Mike with a quick sportscenter. Update thanks Courtney after losing running backs Chris Carson. CJ precise to injuries on Sunday the Seattle seahawks are concerned reunion when marshawn Lynch Lynch is traveling to Seattle on Monday to discuss rejoined the injury injury riddled seahawks. According to reports Lynch spent parts of six seasons with the Seahawks from twenty ten to two thousand fifteen rookie six round pick travis. Homer who has a career carries is currently the team's only healthy running back former Louisville men's basketball coach. Rick Pitino Settles Federal Lawsuit With Adidas the terms of settlement of the sellman in our confidential a federal judge had dismissed potatoes lawsuit. Last year ruled that the size would have to sell the case in arbitration. Pitino's attorneys had said Adidas 'cause Pitino emotional distress when its employees quote conspire to Bribe Louisville recruits. This sportscenter is brought to you by advance auto parts they ahead think advance at any time one. Four batteries is about to fail. Get a free battery test and free installation with any automotive battery. Purchase at advance auto parts. Thank you Mike. Now as we were talking about last segment now going into the twelve thirty hour. The hardest hurdle for a franchise in looking to hire a head coach. How long do you wait even when you have a lead candidate identified? Cincinnati ran into this last year. Mike when the rams kept winning and kept winning and kept winning and they had to wait to hires. Zack Taylor. So it's definitely tougher playoff teams but when you look at a situation as I mentioned we've got about seven or eight teams. Give or take right now. That are going to be in line to hire a head coach. The ones that are under my category of a lock or as close as a lot as you can get Carolina who already fired Ron Rivera than Dallas Cleveland. The New York giants and Jacksonville and the possibility category I put the chargers Atlanta Cincinnati and Chicago. So if you're one of these teams says a front office. NFL Executive -secutive. How do you handle this hurdle in knowing? Hey these are the guys I've identified. But how long am I going to hold out in thinking. Maybe somebody's GonNa snacks the Guy I want or another opportunities going to get passed up if we wait yeah. Those are great questions. I've been through it on a couple of different ways with when we hired Rex Ryan going back a couple years ago with the jets. We were actually routing openly against the Ravens try. Hopefully they were going to lose the championship game to the steelers. Because if I got super all we would have to wait that much longer and obviously a million things to do when you hire a head coach so typically I would say sooner than later however the a big however in this one and they deserve so much. Credit is Indianapolis in the job that Chris Ballard their GM Jimmer CEO done because they had josh mcdaniels Daniels basically agreed to terms of deal which you can have basically had talked contract crammers. You don't sign anything because the Patriots were still alive in the playoffs playoffs. And then obviously he backs out they hire Frank Reich and obviously court you the rest of history so it's one of those things where you WanNa be thorough and you want to make sure that your exhaustive Austin your approach. We also want to move as quickly as reasonably possible. Not because of that decision but really think about this court. You're hiring an entire cabinet and the head. Coach is anxious to get the best possible. So you're not just making a decision you're making about twenty decisions and that's why within reason you try to move along Thomas quickly as possible now a week from today this process truly begins to get underway for the teams that are not headed to the postseason Especially those that we relisted. I'm curious what's the most attractive job out there right now. That you think most coaches who were either going to be switching teams or you know offense offense coordinator defensive coordinator getting promoted into that head. Coaching spot. which team are they going to be looking at wanting to go to get? These are very difficult conversations. I've been on both of them and it obviously impacts not only one person but a lot of family so it's it's tough times in the NFL for the non playoff teams. But with that said had it's actually the opening that's really occurred. Which is Carolina? I'm a big believer in Cam Newton. Look he's had a lot of injuries the balls in his hands a lot but if healthy you have a brand new owner that has great resources David Tepper. He's been around a winning organization in Pittsburgh. You have a really stable front office in Mardi Herni and if have healthy of a really good quarterback so. Let's not complicate things. We have a great owner great for an office and a quarterback that has taken team to super bowl so to me. That's an opportunity that checks truck's long boxes. So it's the noon hour on Monday following a Dallas Cowboys Lawson. As far as I know and haven't seen yet Jerry Jones has not fired Jason Jason Garrett but it does feel inevitable given the comments that were made last night how he is quote extremely disappointed in the way the season has gone and he's also publicly called Holdout Garrett on a number of occasions so this is a team that feels like it's going to be in line for a head coaching change. Unless barring some sort word of miraculous they win in week seventeen getting into the playoffs and then go on and insane playoff run. Who knows how that can change? But you bring up Carolina in Ron Rivera. The name that I've I've heard linked to the possibility of being a candidate for that Dallas. Jog Now he's a veteran guy. He's been around a long time. He's a defensive guy. It doesn't seem seem like that would be an attractive place for anybody to go to let alone somebody. Who's done this don this at a very high level for a long time? How is Dallas going to handle this situation? Where they they want to attract a no name they want to attract somebody who can come in there and help take care of Dak.? Prescott Ezekiel Elliott Mario Cooper and use them well in their prime. But you're also having deal with Gerry every single week when he opens his mouth after Games. Go to or bad yeah. That's a great point Corey and this is where he's going to have to do some Emma self evaluation and and really have some candid and honest dialogue with his inner circle which is be Mike McCarthy or urban Meyer Lincoln Riley early presumably. They're going to have other opportunities choices. And is he prepared you at its most fundamental level. How much power is he willing to give up or not not to get too much into the weeds like? He's the only owner that has a weekly press conference. He has no idea the amount of distraction that creates. And who would he be willing to forego speaking for six months a year it can only that could be the best thing that ever happened to the franchise and I know that sounds silly and fundamental in a multibillion dollar business us but at the end of the day you think about the amount of hours time behind the scenes. The Dallas Cowboys coaching staff has had to deal with entering questions. Sion's trying to understand where they are with their jobs and it's becomes exhausting and it takes away from the task task at hand so as desirable as that job could be on the one hand because you have Z.. League and a lot of talented players you may if you're urban Meyer like you know what I don't need to deal with that I'm not gonNA put myself in that position and same thing with Lincoln Riley. Okay who you are in Oklahoma and you win eight to ten games a year and that's considered a successful season no matter how you spin it. Like what is the ceiling here for the Dallas Dallas Cowboys. They've got a great roster and they paid a lot of players they still have to pay Dak Prescott and Amari Cooper but for a team that should be a perennial all playoff contender right now. What kind of coach is going to want to come and have to deal with those expectations? Like what do you think those expectations realistically are the expectations expectations are really high. And there's no reason why they should be in the thick of the race for for a number of years and look. They'll get a good coach. I mean it's still being the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. But my point is it may be somebody that does have other choices like Mike. McCarthy may have three opportunities. Maybe doesn't have any what happens if it's somebody like Jeff Fisher. May maybe somebody that isn't on. Let's say this tier one less but again if you're Ryan Day at Ohio state if you're Lincoln Riley you're at Oklahoma. Those are like really great lifestyle L. Places because you're winning ten games a year it's easier to recruit your. These are fantastic. You're well paid and you're going to have three or four really hard games a year you go to Dallas and every week Sahar game so and the expectations are GonNa be through the roof. So they'll get a good coach but I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking talking about the second layer of candidates in the in the first one and somebody who has the personality to deal with an owner that is willing to speak out so publicly the way that Jerry Jones has done in following that seventeen nine loss to the eagles at feels all better navigable that we will be seeing a coaching change in Dallas. Coming up soon next. Extend the Dan Lebatardshow are the eagles eighteen. That one should fear in the playoffs. That's next. ESPN radio the ESPN APP and Sirius. Xm Channel Eighty Joanie. ESPN RADIO HANDS OFF. Today I'm Courtney Cronin he's Mike Tannenbaum filling in we're presented by progressive insurance guests appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance format line now the Philadelphia Eagles right back in the hunt for the postseason currently sitting in the number four seed on top of the NFC east they win a seventy-nine game over the Dallas Cowboys. And you'd think Doug Peterson would be jacked and so excited is ready to talk about his team's performance following the game but there there was little disturbance That happened in the post game. Presser check it out can you. Who is who's uh as he credential? Can I finish the question timeout. This'll be sportscenter after joining us now. ESPN NFL nation. Eagles reporter Tim. McManus Tim was that you did. You have your credential. Chris Peterson s that as we met with him today. Actually like everybody has their credentials just to Make sure I think that was a great representation. Asian of what. That place was like last night Lincoln financial field when it's cowboys week always gets just a little bit crazier the normal And especially when that's in December and for the NFC titled to be on the line food That was just the perfect ending till it was a crazy day in South Philadelphia phillies injured. They have no receivers yet they come. I'm out on top with that win over the cowboys and this is somewhat unfamiliar territory for Carson Wentz. Last two seasons down the stretch he was sitting on the sideline injured. Last Snyder goes thirty. One forty outdueling Dak Prescott three hundred nineteen yards passing. What are we seeing here with? Wentz these last few weeks. I think that you're you're saying A quarterback that's really taking the reins of the team and you bring up a great point in that. He's had to sit on the sideline for the last two. Kind of magical runs late it into the season. Of course the super bowl year twenty seventeen and then nick foles takes over for him. Last year rattled off four straight Kind of Heightens the this decide that that falls is Captain Clutch and what has Carson Wentz done and the big moments and so. He really needed this. I think in order to cement himself as the man here in Philadelphia given the large shadow. That Nick foles cast Sort of with his accomplishments in the two years prior Wentz has been dynamite and December knbr. I'm he had the. The two comeback wins over the giants and Washington. And now what he admitted was the biggest start of his career was lights out Against Dallas on Sunday. So I think this was a really critical And really says a lot about the quality of hands that this franchises in before to how `bout at the skilled player. What do you see coming for this week in terms of anybody coming back between running backs and receivers? Well actually. I mean it's more monitoring during what Zakar is availability is because he took a real hard shot in the reds in the first quarter against the House on Sunday and he was able to gut it out came back. was limited in his production and there's further tests awaiting him but it sounded somewhat ominous by Doug Peterson like he's GonNa be playing through pain. uh-huh knowing our it's he's he's GonNa try to be out there but is he limited of both for week. Seventeen against the giants and then if they win that in the postseason is something worth keeping an and I on the Sean Jackson is on the horizon I heard from a source today. That said that he will be ready if they advanced to the divisional round of the playoffs offs he's not eligible to come off of I r until them but there is kind of hope lingering that they'll get their speed receiver back if they can make some noise over the next couple couple of weeks now if they can't do they have enough weapons elsewhere to sustain a playoff run indeed if they do get there because when you take look at once in the tight end position yet thirty eight. He has thirty eight passing touchdowns tight end since entering the League in two thousand sixteen. Is that sustainable. If they don't have have their deep group of receivers that we had on their last two playoff runs. I mean it seems like it would be really hard to piece together. You have to give the team credit for rallying Elliot giving the amount of injuries that they have had and for what went says done without being with the Sean Jackson and Alshon Jeffery and Nelson Galore and their lead back and Jordan Howard. Our goes down And credit to a guy like mile sanders who all of a sudden is making some serious waves in the NFL and has been a big reason. Why why that offense has caught fire a little bit about with the limited options? It's going to be difficult for this team to manage. I mean we see that they have the character. We know that they have the experience. They know that they have some leaders that step up and big moments when we saw that on that critical turnover in that game in the in the third quarter. Where Fletcher Cox Enforces a fumble Malcolm Jenkins jumps on it. So they got like those those marquee players But it's GonNa be a struggle on on offense. I think for sure once they start playing these. He's really good teams in the postseason. So it's going to. It's going to take a full on effort just to eat their way into that divisional round Tim. Now that the heels to join that one for about ten fifteen minutes moving forward Dale Jones throws five touchdown passes the giant offense has improved. How how the Dow the giants offense matching up begins philly secondary which has struggled be for performance or injuries? Yeah I think that the matchup wise. They're okay I think what they really you have to guard against is letdown. I mean they put everything into this cowboys game. They pulled out all the tricks out of their bag. They had to Sean Jackson on Friday night. Stand in front of the team gave an impassioned speech about the eagles cowboys rivalry and soccer. Game on Saturday night gives his own kind of rallying. Cry Hi to the team They they you know. That was a huge moment in that season and I think it would be natural to kind of let your foot off the gas a little bit in New York and so that's truly what they have to guard against and I feel like There were positive signs in that respect in the locker room last night where Jason Kelsey and other leaders were talking immediately about off the giants kind of reveling in Dallas win so I thought that was an occurring sign that they're locked in heading into this game that can quench the NFC form scenario in week. Seventeen coming down to the eagles losing in the cowboys. Winning that means Dallas wins. The eastern goes the postseason enough cowboys. Losing the Eagles win then Philly early wins the East Tim McManus. NFL Nation Eagles reporter. Thanks so much for that coming up next this this. NFL OFF SEASON has the potential to be unprecedented precedent in terms of quarterbacks changing teams now Carson Wentz who tim was talking about he's not going anywhere signing that extension through twenty twenty four. But it's going to be a baffling year where before we even get to the draft. We're going to have a lot of quarterbacks on many different team that's coming up next. You're listening to the Dan Le Batard show on ESPN radio CEO the ESPN APP and Sirius. Xm Channel Eighty show on ESPN radio

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

37:50 min | 1 year ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1)

"<music> Good Morning Good Morning Good Morning. How you feeling good man I was GonNa say we still got a key and Travis out on their vacations you and me again l.? Z. Of course Chris went join them. Apparently Chris went and joined them but we brought back roaring trade. I'm so glad that you out. He forgot how to work by rusty this side of the button there you go rusty like Kenta Maeda yesterday. It was all Arado it was going to happen and it did it was going to happen is this is I I mean to me. I didn't really care because when you see the scenario right play the game jumping to play go to different time zone high altitude is just it was set up to happen. Exactly what happened we had the most is lopsided loss of the season and you look at the schedule you go yeah yeah and lopsided it was nine one loss to the rockies Ken to my Ada. Just just four innings seven hits given up six runs five of them were earned and there were more defensive issues <hes> for the dodgers <hes> doc Peterson having some struggles Max muncie having some issues and eventually it led to Jock Petersen in the eighth inning not running out a grounder and Dave Roberts pulling him. Oh yuck out pull jock uphold because he did not think the effort was there. Dave Roberts an Jack Petersen actually after the game agreed with Dave Roberts. I think that <hes> yeah it is unprofessional and let the emotions get the best me and I need to <hes>. I'm better than that. Is the most trusted today. There's no single anything it's a combination of things but yeah he's got to be so sick of playing first first-base really about first base. I think it is though I think to some degree. It's about this or visit outfield. He would run that out. I don't know if he was in the field. He would've been and his frustrated to reach a point where he didn't run the thing out. I mean like this. This is starting to pile up jock. I mean like the idea that he's put in this position essentially to fail fail because there's nobody else to do it and it's like the the teams cushion in the division is sort of being used against Jack Petersen like when it comes to being put first base where everyone knows this isn't what he does and he's not necessarily even doing great. The dodgers can just afford to put him there but he sorted ends up the within boy in the in the process. I don't think he was the whipping boy. I just think that Dave Roberts doesn't want to allow bad habits to seep into this team then. If you allow one thing to sort of happen that's considered unprofessional than at one becomes two two becomes four four becomes eight next you know you've derail rail. What is supposed to be world? Series run. Dave Roberts data right things. Jacques Peterson knows it. Oh Yeah even in the midst of frustration. You still have to do the right thing absolutely so so I'm not I'm not condoning only only the bad team goes at doesn't matter we're going to lose and I know I'm on your team does not condoning <unk> owning doctors say there. There's there is he's back now. I'm not condoning I'm just saying I think that they're related matters. I Dave Roberts did the right thing. You're absolutely correct and you want to make sure that that attitude doesn't end up seeping through the entire clubhouse particular time where the dodgers by their standards standards have been losing more games you know six yeah then then they're accustomed to and it's not the end of the world but you it would not shock me at all all if Peterson is ready for somebody else to be playing I in for him to go back of course of course he probably want that but you know for the sake of this conversation. It's about this one little moment in time in about the timing of when it happened they've lost for six. He was over for for the day. He's frustrated because this isn't his position now he this is not his position he somewhat being embarrassed trying to play that position but he's trying to you know keep his head up and and and be a good teammate and due to think David David ask of him and maybe the frustration they come out but just because the frustration come out just like with Bauer the other day through into baseball out of the freaking you you know you you that I'm going to go on the idea taken that ball and throwing it from the mound in the centre. Yeah I mean I it is listen President Peterson and running out. I feel like a man would have gone all the way I feel like every pitcher right before they leave the game when the managed about to pull them they should take the ball and throw innocent. That'd be great. That'd it'd be awesome and like you get shamed even more if you can't do it yeah what if you only hit the warning track yeah. Oh yeah you should like that. She might you kershaw. You've you've been trading him for years. No no I have not been cleared traders you guys treat. We need to help the bullpen help. Dodgers apparently happen talking talking with the pirates about sleep a vast using nails left <hes> left handed reliever <hes> late inning can also be closer but there is a hold hold up over the prospects of dodgers would have to give up the pirates thus far have been asking for Gavin Lux a highly prized middle infielder and the dodgers gers have said no to that point yeah and this is where it gets. This is where it gets N._B._A.. Ish Yeah Right. Do you trade await Lonzo Ball Josh hard and Brandon Ingram for your version of Anthony Davis though from a town in the commerce accomplishment perspective is not apples to apples the conversation about do you give your youth off that you have a lot of faith in exchange for fixing what you need right now for the hopes of winning a championship this is tough and it's going to me tough for a Lotta dodger fans. 'cause that's key real. We don't know who Gavin luck says. We haven't seen him every day. We don't know what he does. We don't know why he's a valued the way he is so it makes it more difficult for us to say whether or not we should train them. No the main business inside baseball as inside baseball. I was GonNa say and the main thing we know is that the dodgers front office they they covet Gavin lock they cannot he's really good and they've been very good at evaluating talent there this front office does that very well. We've seen it with cody bellinger. We've seen it with core seger. We've seen it with Walker. Bueller like they're good at keeping their is on really good players so if they think they're good there's probably a reason to believe him right but the flipside is going to the world series two years in a row. You haven't went one. You've got a real opportunity in front of you and the bullpen does need addressing and as much of as much as a crapshoot as bullpens can be and guys can can be in and out with their effectiveness. Joe Kelley was awesome in the world series last year and Boston almost left him off the postseason roster. There are certain guys that you know our are great. Philippi Vasquez. You know is great. You know he is yeah. I mean and you know we need an arm. Pride need a couple of hours be quite honest. Yes my condition but we'll hill eventually we don't we don't know what Gavin Lux is. Are we know all STA track record of the Dodgers Front office and you you know you jokingly mentioned the trade for Kershaw her. I wanted to trade for Chris Sale when I talked about Kershaw but they want him bellinger and at the time I was like who cares it's Chris Sale. Get Chris Mad bub-bubba now. It's like Oh Aweso grabby Care Belhadj. I'm glad they didn't listen to me but I hadn't seen balance well. Here's the difference right. I hadn't seen him right you had this is the same thing Gavin Lux could be the next bellinger sir. Here's the thing though I mean the difference to me contractually because you're right I mean a few years ago. I would have said like yeah all right. I mean if you need to give ballengee Nego bellinger because I wasn't as familiar with them either either but the dodgers also didn't have as many young players that that have now become ever gay guys for them like at the time some of this youth they were all in the the minor leagues and you were looking for them to create a foundation. The dodgers now actually have a foundation with some of these young players so at this point you have to start thinking about the idea that you're not going to be able to keep mall anyway waking up with keyshawn and his boys. It's kind of like that milk <music> splashing on your cereal in the morning. Little Jian are from the Terminator two soundtrack. This might have been the last good song. Actually she made. Hey Hey I'm sorry but they went down once once actually started getting on the piano and thinking he was like artists artists. It was a raft at back November rain. Come after this <hes> knows around the same time you will take that back off of this was the this was a round win. Use your illusion. Yeah came out awful now. Those were great job. You don't go from appetite to destruction and talking about all the party and Mister Brownstone and night train to sitting on the piano talking You Baby. That's how you get off the boat Brown what Ellie that's how you go away from Mr Brownstone out at your sensitive. He likes his artists to be arrested development like him. Yes that's what made them guns and roses roanoke diversity lose. Your illusion destroyed mess up their Credit Alaska. It's only maybe why are we playing this own. Gentlemen Happy Birthday Arnold Schwarzenegger and of course this was <hes> to the Terminator to Terminator two which is one of the best sequels ever do sitting in that theater watching that thing with the special effects in that little terminator coming after them. I skip school. I I was in high school. Class went to the pizzeria snuck a whole eighteen inch pizza into the theater in my book bag and crushed. Sometimes you have to fold that thing or we split it in half and was two bags crushed that we crushed phoenix. Hamilton escaped raped wow we we were little later. We'll do we'll bring back a little something called <hes> three to hardaway hard way so it takes some suggestions on the basically the four best Arnold Schwarzenegger films and we gotTa pick three of them. Yeah one of them will be eliminated for for all of time so hit us up on twitter at CAM brothers at L Z granderson and L Z granderson granderson at E._S._p._N.. Los Angeles Raj at Raj groves hit us up with your best for Arnold Schwarzenegger movies and then we're going to combine them together. Semi that hard I know kindergarten cop is going to be it'll be up there. You tend to be only has three really good movies and then a fourth one. We all just got agreed. You know I don't know about that really good movies. Yes they terminator one was. It's not a really good model. Yes it is it is yes. It is not a really good move. That is a great movie. You know why you know only reason why it's great is because he says I three words in it. He's the bad guy he has a bad guy. He was minutes. I'll be back. He was great Predator close total having recall at the time was awesome to recall was pretty the one with the chick they had to the three yes yes. It is the three you got your running man. You got your Predator than he's running. Man was also fantastic about twins wins vacation. That's basically use your illusion. I will not have any more gene are slander all right so there is is perhaps a little bit of feuding going on not just between Ezekiel Elliott and the cowboys Ezekiel Elliott famously wants a new contract. He has been holding out. He has not been apart of cowboys training camp. They're up in Oxnard right now. He is currently in Kabo as Ezekiel Elliott doing his training but Jerry Jones Jones has weighed in on the absence of Ezekiel Elliott who we should remember was last year's rushing champion. Jerry Jones talked about whether or not he is essential essential for being there. You don't have to have a rushing champion to win. A Super Bowl but Emmett was the first one to do it and that's one of the dilemmas running back is that the League knows that you can win super bowls and not have the Emmett Smith back. There are not have Z. back there consequently quaintly when we are looking and putting Zeke's contract in place. We've gotTA realize that the ultimate goal is to win the the Super Bowl and so you've gotta do all of the things along with having Zeke that allow you to have other players so that you can win the Super Bowl. Oh interesting how he starts out by saying that you don't need a Russian champion to win the Super Bowl but then points out Emmett Smith who was a primary reason why they won the last super bowls that they have but he also said he was the first yeah which means a super bozo one before that wasn't point and obviously every every time the Tom Brady hose up a trophy. He's done it without the rushing that is true that is true. I don't think <hes> Aaron Aaron Rodgers had a running back. Since Brett Farve was the starter right a minute. It's been a minute. It's been a minute <hes>. This is hard to argue when he says that on the heels of the N._F._l.. Coming off the least amount of Russia's in the history of his league but what I would say is this yes it is true. You don't need the rushing leader to win the Super Bowl but you need your best player Yes to win. The Super Bowl and the question is is is Ezekiel Elliott your best player take the position out in instead implant the impact it has on the team if Ezekiel Elliot's your best team your best player I would argue that you don't win without your best player only example I can think of the Philadelphia Eagles. If you believe Carson Wentz the best plan to go on to win with Nick folks <hes> that's good. That's good now. I can tell you this by watching obviously being a cowboy fan. He's not only their best paid their most important player cobwebs or built for third and Short Adak third insurance. They're not built for thirty eight thirty seven without Zeke putting yourself in situations and exposes Dak for the average quarterback years. That's about to get elite money for some reason in that's not a good thing for the cowboys I don't I don't know if I agree with with your analysis. I think you're blinded by the fact that you're a cowboy fan and you haven't won since you were in elementary school so you bitter but you're right in the sense of in the past that had not been as effective as you would like. You're starting quarterback to be without without his running going back but always also saying the past Jason Garrett did a Piss poor job of preparing the team to have like without Ezekiel. This is different. Now you've had more time you've had ways to introduce more more elements more wrinkles to your offense but yeah and you have Amari Cooper. You didn't have Amari Cooper before or you were trying to make do with an agent with a deck speaking of Alphabet as a new one of those speaking of Alfred Morris the cowboys going to bring him back cowboys. I'M GONNA sign him right now and Ezekiel Elliott's APPs Nice deal yeah. He's familiar with what they do. Th the cowboys are in a really interesting position because on they got three guys they need to figure out paying in Dak Prescott Ezekiel Elliott Amari Cooper well. I mean that's no different than how you're GonNa Pay Troy Aikman Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith. I'm just saying like there are three very different contexts. I think in terms of how you would figure out who to prioritize WHO's most important with Dak Prescott. I think I think he's better than average is a quarterback. I think you agree to Raja's a little bit different but everyone would agree. He's respected in that locker. Oh He's a leader. He's definitely a leader and that leadership your ship matters. Yes and it's going to be difficult to find a quarterback who's better than Dak Prescott on the open market and the cowboys are looking to win right now so he he matters in that sense Amari Cooper you gave up a ton to bring him in <hes> so you don't want to end up losing twice by not having that guy around but as you said L Chelsea and I agree Ezekiel Elliott is the best of the three of them however he's also not just because the position is more expendable in today's N._F._l.. He's given you the most reasons to be nervous about committing. He's in Kabul eaten ships GUAC right now well he's training. He's not training and he's drinking Margaritas. Hope there's no idiom festival down mirror because the off the field issues and things he just doesn't get into stuff in New Orleans I mean idea of Ezekiel Elliot going to Kabul to train the joke that writes itself. I mean like like what could possibly go wrong with. Ezekiel Elliott going unsupervised down to Kabo to train where Kabul is a hotbed for N._F._l.. Players I'm sure there's a facility down there. Where am I correct Raj murmuring this isn't that where Tony Romo and <hes> Simpson's yeah isn't that where they went where everyone killed them and you had a bye week and they lost the game him and Witton right yeah they they went down the Kabo and everyone who trained trained trained? Yeah we saw in training on lawn chairs was all photos Jessica Simpson right. It was pretty big justice but he's he I remember remember. Everyone used to kill him. Just for Dayton Jessica Simpson fourteen in two year. I believe they had the bye week and came back and proceeded to lose the game at home. Of course everyone blamed it on Kabul and Jessica Simpson and Romo cobbles undefeated Romo's laws but I mean like if you're in the cowboy front office the idea of Zeke being down in in Kabul to train. That's that's the front office if you're a member of Zeke's team and you're trying to get your client paid why in the Hell L. Are you putting him in position to not be successful. If you're trying to convince the cowboys that one you've matured and change to that you're you're going to be ready to rock and roll as soon as soon as we signed a new contract and I guess we're going next week. Guys were going to Goto O._C.. That's right ASSOC- weeks and make sure you join us for E._S._p._N.. O._C. Week starting on August fifth. I believe that's money if I look at my calendar in an outdoor O._C.. Live remotes. That's where we get lit which all we have <hes> we put them in the air. Do shot chart shots and it's your chance to win an Anthony Davis this number three Jersey you see behind guys got got jerseys all behind you. More gives the net but you must be present to win so for a complete list of our E._S._p._N.. AC- events follow us on twitter instagram and facebook at E._S._p._N.. Los Angeles the morning show better much better. You feel more banger. This is what I'm talking about big baby due to do. That's a strange mix. I think it went. I was thinking going together. Naturally you're been this is my mom my seat that this move Hori on ever who's your who's your strolling intro for you made the move now says aw man. I've not heard this in a long time as a reason for it happy birthday Paul Anka seventy seventy seven years old must be nice to have an iconic song like this yeah seventy. Seven people still know that song people still remember this. It's like people like him. Barry manilow like Neil diamond diamond well neil diamond had more hits and I guess Barry Manilow had more hits like I don't know how much much I don't really know how much Paul Anka had I just remember this one more. I looked at Lenny Kravitz what you don't know about that that one but no use your illusion three nothing like that but he's got a couple. I looked at I recognize it. Let's see here Paul Anka seventy seven years old <hes> what else <hes> you are my destiny and Diana dirty dirty Diana Rachel yeah original dirty Diana and he wrote the music for Tom Jones including including his biggest hit. She's a lady Oh. He's a he's a Les Hacen Most Oh and guess what he also did with Michael Jackson. I never heard Diana. No I never heard he remixed Diane. What is IT I? I never heard the name of it so I don't think it did hurt so he did some things things man he does. You know doing some things from Ottawa Canada my my parents. My parents probably still go see Paul Anka. If given the opportunity of Paul Anka rolled in Saint Saint Louis. My parents probably would still Easter with US correct. Yes okay. Let's see here make sure trust to run down. Just a run down Raj Dot Com all right so Anthony Davis vis recently went up okay. You said how old he is. Seventy seven ish ways the he seventy run down. He says I was GonNa say what's your in that range come on. Does it matter it matters to Paul Anka. He's alive one thirty seven. Something's messing. No I mean I remember when my grandfather on my dad's side <hes> before or eventually end up passing but I remember every time I asked him. You know how you doing. Grandma is responsible is being still alive like once you get to that age like every single day a is like some. It's like a matter of principle you WANNA point out. I'm still here at once you get in your late seventies or eighties like you WanNa make sure everyone knows you're still alive. Have you seen seen it on his wife. Paul Anka's wife. You heard me know Lisa Pemberton pimpernel <hes> her last name is Pinkerton P. E. M. B. E. R. T. O. N.. Okay are they said Pinkerton Pinkerton Twenty Sixteen Paul. Anka wants to garage a little bit longer. Anka definitely wants to be alive. I have no he's not trying to check out early. How who good for Paul Anka so Anthony Davis was on Sarah Sarah Spain's podcasts and he hit on a variety of topics but the most basket Bali was the question of championships over the course of his career? He's famously only been to the playoffs twice only been into the second round once and he addressed the idea of what it would mean if he never won a championship over the course of his career a failure that I've had <hes> yeah <hes> obviously you know in my career. I don't win a championship that it'd be awfully as one of my biggest failures but right now I still you'll have a lot to do and where you know on and off the court so I don't think I felt anything you know I think I just <hes> do it over and said you know concede that. Do we put too much. Do you think like as far as judging success or failure with careers. Do you think we put too much. Championships like as opposed to just judging aging how you actually played in your career. I would say that the hypertension tours championships defining hypertension hyper hypertension kills me hypertension. <hes> I would say at that focus was really something happened like in the eighties or whatnot yeah back in the day when you still have the A._B._A.. N._B._A. Involved I think we really valued or just enjoy watching guys ball and then all of a sudden the focus came in on championships defining whether or not you are successful plan was really it was the George vacation of the N._B._A.. In a Lotta ways sports like my I think Michael Jordan you know with those six championships and being undefeated in the finals in particular regular and everybody forgetting about all the time where he couldn't even get to the finals and everybody forgetting like there was a period where people questioned whether or not Michael Jordan win like it seems insane insane now but that that happened a lot yeah. Julie actually started winning right because it was about whether or not he could play in a team like you could. He left him a team Yada Yada Yada but but Anthony Davis I would say his career would be a failure only in a sense of when you call call your own shot the way that he has. You're putting a target on yourself. When you go to your front office or your age and go to the front office and says I want to be traded and I want to be traded here and you disrupt the structure of one franchise an-another another under under the guise of I'm trying to win then when you get your wish you Betta come through otherwise? What was that all four well he didn't he didn't just disrupt one France right? That's disrupted too. So what is what does it all for and argue you know three and a sense of what other pieces had to be moved before that as a result of what he did so when you make that kind of shy call you gotta come through especially when you linked up with someone in conversation of greatest of all time so you force your way out of New Orleans to shoehorn yourself onto a team team that has some want still very much and you know it's on the back end but still very much in his prime who's in a conversation greatest of all time if you do all of that and you don't know what the chip at the end of the day the yeah I would consider that a failure is l z secretly doing a morning show on some some other radio station. We explore the answer coming up next on the morning show guys. We've got some movement in the polls. That's what happens when the post going well. It's not really a poor but it's a question at Andy knows <hes> because we're going to do three to hardaway later in the best three on all sorts of movies but the ones that are getting the votes are total recall Terminator One and two we have to decide between them to the running man and Predator but then in an honorable mention is a kindergarten cop getting some votes here. I'm dead serious various. It's cute. It's cute for what it is. I guess it's not Arnold top four top. Four Arnold movie movie true lies was really July's fun okay Kinda. You know what else is fun. No I'm still waiting for it to show up. What did we want to help you? Can you can bring it over. Yeah sure well. The first one is I can't get no satisfaction but you set it up. Well no bring like do you have any your phone. Just bring it over yeah but then you get to see my phone. I bring my computer to thank you you mean it's not clear there's technical difficulties with L Z accessing list for some live I I sent last night but I sent her a on my screen writing computer which is Exactly exactly I was such a computer screen writing anyway in case you didn't know this week history was made. Oh alone breaks director we seventeen weeks atop the billboard hot one hundred dude. It cannot be overstated how much the popularity already of that song is being propped up by elementary school kids all over this country. I have an eight year old daughter. She's obsessed with that song. Her friends <music> are all obsessed with it. She wants a Porsche. Now wants to pour. She can't tell her nothing no. She's actually asked me about getting a Porsche because of that song because that's all she'd never heard of a Porsche Dylan where what's worse. Let go with the Song Oh <hes> who go spend in a lot of time in our household. I'm sure it did well anyway. Supplanting Mariah Carey and Boyz to man that has sixteen weeks a number one as well as d'esposito but I decided to try to be super duper oprah ambitious and put together my top ten list of the all time iconic number one songs at a hell of an undertaking man. It's a hell of an undertaking. It was a lot of scotch involved. I would think I'm just gonNa tell you right now. I screwed up okay because there's always going to be an argument for something. Coming in at number ten is rod says I can't get no satisfaction by the rolling stones. It's an iconic song. I don't think it's their best but it's iconic. It's not the best and that's important. It's not the artist's best song as not even a great song necessarily but its impact on society and the trajectory actually of music history cannot be denies lutely absolutely coming in at number nine Billie Jean by Michael Jackson. What are you gonNA play that normally complete? Oh you gotta songs. You didn't have your list ready this yesterday. He's got a song list on different phone your <hes>. She got comeback in here this come on man computer. I know what it did. He's got like a computer something so <unk> Billie Jean to some people may be considered low on this list but if you consider Michael Jackson Star was already pretty well established by the time the song came out when you think about the fact that it wasn't the first single off thriller and you think about the fact that when people think about Michael Jackson thriller I what was the first single off <hes> through. I remember girls. That's fine. That was the first thing first thing was the girl is mine. Yes really the first thing N._p._R.. Number two boy man they did it really really. I was gonna say that sounds like a mistake but I guess I was wrong. If it got the number two all within this is icon I was going to say this is iconic just from the video along with with the squares here's lighten up on the sidewalk absolutely and then of course the Moonwalk yes yeah when he performed it during the motown twenty five yes I mean introducing the moonwalk a it really however problematic Michael Jackson may be now can't deny what this was number eight is hound dog now most people think of the Elvis Presley cover of it which is true but this is being recorded more than two hundred times call perkins that the Yes what a two hundred times this song has been covered and I think he was on us. You're losing too as a matter of fact everyone has gotten to the number. Seven is like a virgin by Madonna the it's not our best. No it is it is not our best Saul however when you think about where we were society back in nineteen eighty four one thousand nine hundred eighty five do just the MTV video awards performance of this yes deliver the first award for the video awards she performed like a virgin and a wedding dress yeah and oh by the way thanks to now Rogers still hose up because of the baseline that's pretty good. He is inaccessible everybody everybody by the way Lindsey Buckingham Making big time comeback the point is it had to be come back. You guys thought it wouldn't be close. I think I one number six bridge over troubled water. Yeah just absolutely who you choose to Aretha version nice work we know now as originally done by Simon and Garfunkel but obviously like hound dogs been recorded by everybody in their Mama. aretha Franklin says one of the more or I kinda that's GonNa be tough to like when you already have a really good version and then aretha desserts and you're like all right. It's better to reversal you said are you guys I still from us. We stole from you for coming in at number five. I will always love you by Whitney Houston. It's hard to deny not by her though not her version okay yes atention. No one pays attention to pardons version. Even though obviously karate pardon is the author of the code the writer of one of the most beautiful breakup songs. I think no it's actually Dolly Parton Song Yeah. Your people knew Arosh. People is the biggest country fan. We have your number four the twist yes. Let's do that connick. You know why does something so iconic. Why why because you know it was released in a fifty fifty part about is the follow up on the song? Let's let's twist again. The fat boys did their version of the check around the bad boys. Yes yeah this song is like almost sixty years old and you know it yeah and you know it yeah. I hate to minute but you're right. I mean one one of the things that make iconic songs iconic. Obviously it's a longevity of it and speaking of longevity. I double dog dare you to go to any championship any in wedding and not here number three. I mean it's not their past. This is the anthem of the one thousand nine hundred cardinals when they win. The world. Series is the anthem period. It's so good this is when you think about we are the champions and you know we will rock you and all the the favourite sort out of sports anthem songs out there to only I can think of that could be heard at an arena and New York City and a wedding and Mobile Alabama is a celebration. Your credit is not cool gangs best but it's really good. It's translates and a lot of different uses absolutely number two. She's back. <hes> Aretha Franklin giving me a little reminds me of the Blues Brother's four fried chickens and a coke. I think we've said it wants you said it a thousand times may not necessarily be her best <hes> but everybody knows our he is not in writing song talked about and he said like she she took it from him in basically made it better which Otis redding by the way yeah he didn't have much help you know and then the number one most iconic number one song by the Beatles as Dedi car yesterday. I believe this is the most covered song ever it very good. Actually there's like against Christian yeah like it's officially the most covered song ever like the interesting thing about trying to put together. Such an ambitious list is that there's so many iconic songs that actually didn't peaking number one like I wanted to put imagine on this list but imagine pete that number three. I gotTa tell the number one did a pretty good job with this. He likes you came in saying what he did it well. This is actually pretty good considering how hard it was. It was very very hard. How hard was it? It was so tough I went through almost a half butterscotch Scotch. I could see this way. You can't find a list. I wrote it on my screen. Writer compute probably won't be able to fund Peter to either Josh and the O._C.. Wants wants to weigh in on <hes> Arnold's best come to visit us. Josh Neo see Oh yeah. I'm here in the N._F._C.. I'm surprised you guys have not mentioned Terminator Thirty those remember the girls get enhance and stuff and then we have arnold right there like unhugged <hes> pity duty Arnold Christmas comedy action. Did you say comedy. I love you guys. Love your steak you guys did he say that call was comedy. No he was dead serious on hold. I look jingle all the way it's a great holiday. Movie Has Action Comedy Bubble. He was dead serious. He wanted to come. I want to give props to jingle all the way so we might have added to the list because it's getting a lot of both impediments to since you looking at

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AFC/NFC Conference Championship Preview, Analytics in the NFL, Jason Garrett & the Giants

The GM Shuffle

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AFC/NFC Conference Championship Preview, Analytics in the NFL, Jason Garrett & the Giants

"Gray tabby always here on the GM shuffle a JD. Mike Ready to rock and roll before we talk about the rock and roll. Of course the rock and Roll Hall of Famer Cleveland. We're going to talk about these Brown the whole topic of analytics because Mike when you think of mate Alexi often think about major league baseball. And you know Bill James's cyber metric revolution. Should Billy Bean moneyball the book movie all the rest of it and wanted Billy Bean's main guys was Paul D Badescu. CUPID ESTA LA. Believe in the as he goes the mets eventually. Now he's with the Cleveland Browns. Tired and twice sixteen says famously. I don't know too much NFL. But I've got all this information all this analytics we'll make things work also infamous said he didn't think Carson Wentz was the top twenty quarterback now now as we look at your column today. Athletic is always. You can subscribe the athletic read. All Mike's work there the war between analytics and football people is pointless. The real challenge is finding someone who can properly understanding process all the data and then make the right decisions and how to deploy and I'm not sure. The browns have solved that problem yet. They hire Kevin Stansky is their head coach. Why why are you skeptical at? They've solved it. You know I like Kevin and I and I don't mean to be critical Kevin. But I think Kevin's a really smart guy. And I think Kevin's obviously you know well. Educated aided came through the coaching ranks. The right way started on the ground floor worked his way up. I just think it's going to be a real challenging job for him because he's got to manage a lot of personalities in that locker room and deep. Pesto said at the press conference that they were looking for a leader. And you know. And I think that Kevin's probably more of a guy who's low key. Quiet it you know has a shared vision with everybody and that doesn't mean he's not qualified. That just means to me I think the vision of what the browns think they need. And what what. I see the browns needing in terms of somebody to come in and be able to handle Odell Beckham because look like Odell Beckham. The little like Michael Jackson Right. I mean he's is not compliant right he will show up on time. He'll do what he has to do right but the one thing he will do is he will create people following him he will create and so what he doesn't come to. Ot Days where he doesn't want to do things or he wants to go out. Color outside the lines dominic does he. Will you know get the people follow him. And who's going to challenge him to do that. Who's going to challenge him to do that? You know and I thought it was funny. Ad When you know they asked Stefanski Gi you know what did Mayfield think of you like. I'm not really worried. Would Baker Mayfield thinks of me. I'm worried about what I think. Baker Mayfield Shinto like I don't have to make Baker Mayfield Happy Baker Mayfield to make me happy. And I think you can look at all these analytical numbers and it's great but at some point football's a game a leadership. Football's the game of toughness. Football's a game paddle. Football's a game of conditioning. Football's a game of making people do things they really don't WanNa do right. You need intelligence. You need all those things but you need grit. You need some of that and I just think that the way they handle this they obviously got somebody who's more collaborative than dictatorship and. That's what they wanted on it. I'm not sure that's what they needed. As you mentioned the com- analytics is just another word for information. And when you worked for Bill Belichick or walls work with them. You know you were feeding them. Information to quote gridiron genius. The fact you Mike Holmgren were good friends. He called you scooper because you were so tune in and what was going on around the NFL. Hiring coaches like homeroom is a convoluted path to building a staff. It required Walsh to spend lots of time and energy coaching his coaches. That was why he hired guys. Who are intelligent before there? Anything else guys. Were not typical products. The football industry his special teams coach. Fred von happen may still be the only coach in NFL history who read Sylvia plath every day before heading out to the practice field. Maybe the violence of her poetry help to prepare him for the carnage of kickoff coverage. That's a great quote but just to further the point about Walsham ballot check and how they assemble their staffs. Yeah I mean look. Nobody was more cerebral lim bill right but he's a real tough guy. Nobody's more cerebral than Bella check. And he's a tough guy and Fred. Von Was a tough guy you know and he'd read Sylvia Plath and he was was excluding the part that she put her head in an oven and he literally read that every single day it was unbelievable and his vocabulary was incredible vocabulary. Sorry but they had a sense of toughness and I think that parcells is the same way. parcells wants to hire guys from the Military Academy. He wants smart people right. Everybody wants smart people. They want smart people but they also want smart people that are going to be branded and do what they wanna do. And demand from the players not collaborate from the players and I think that this analytical nonsense is truly we're all in the information business so all the information is really important in my belief is that we're missing in the point when somebody puts on and says well there in eleven personnel. And they're doing this and that like do you understand what the eleven is and what they're really trying to accomplish. I mean Tevin Coleman was the running back that was the main back this week because Kyle Shanahan wanted a running back. Who's GonNa Threaten Mike Zimmer in the backfield because Mike Zimmer was gonNA play three linebackers now once that happened that according to the chart? That's twenty-one toward the analytic he's in twenty one personnel but he's really not because he's got Coleman in the game he's only in twenty anyone with Coleman because he's got three linebackers so how do you differentiate that you know. How do you break down the information you know? There's so many times I've been in meeting with Bela check. I'll be watching tape. And I made a comment. He said well the only reason they're doing that is because they're doing up about anyone into that you know like oh I got it now I got you just taught me something right. Like that's the game and my point with the with the article today is who's doing that for the browns. Who is their guy that's gonNA come? I mean deep to admit it and I wrote it in the column that he didn't know anything what he was talking. What about in two thousand and sixteen? Meanwhile he's passed over Carson Wentz. He traded the picks that essentially would have been the Shawn Watson like. He admitted he didn't know what he was doing now in three for years. He's he's on par with Bill Belichick and he's going to be able to sort information in just three years. I mean what class did he take the University of Phoenix. Like I'm seriously what what did he go to diversify. I I like where. How do you get this? How do you get that degree that quick like seriously? There's things I don't even understand. Sometimes I you gotta get people. I got call somebody on the phone. It's explain this to me what they're really trying to do here. A boom and they go through it like it's really hard. It's a really hard sport understand and I think this whole notion that I can do it in three years is arrogant. Yeah in Cleveland. Football is off tough to understand as well. Let's take a listen to this clip from bull and Fox Fox Ninety two point three Cleveland and he talked about that they're being built for failure. Something very close to that and I think the same thing and then I was listening to Mike Lombardi now. That guy was very impressive. And this guy that I just heard well east liking this diapers or something the way they to comparing the ways that they talked this from just filled with how to build a team. I promise Amish it has. That guy is no relation to me. Because trust me in Cleveland literally I could part Lake Erie and we could walk to Canada and I would still be hated man in Cleveland. So like that guy's no relation to me whatsoever. I appreciate his commentary. I appreciate his kindness. But I didn't put that guy up to anything. You got to send that Guy Caramel Popcorn curlicue sent me. What was the place you said? It was such a nice gift. All my kids are still heated ocean city New Jersey. What's that place Johnson's it's Johnson's popcorn? They've had three locations on the boardwalk. And if you ever come down here in the summertime it's the greatest thing you'll ever see so they so like I sent you a can when when bill and I were together in Cleveland. We used to send Johnson's popcorn out to everybody. Is Christmas gifts in fact in some of the scenes in in Cleveland Ninety five you'll see Johnson popcorn containers on the staff table if you look at the Patriots Staff Table. There's Johnson's popcorn containers on there. And so what you'll see here in the summertime is people literally get their Johnson's they get their containers. They buy a container and then when they go back up to the boardwalk they refill their container and it costs a little bit less. Because you don't plan for the plastic on the potato and if your kids ever had it when they just made it with all the Caramel and the goose sticking in there it's just forgetting credit. I mean you can literally eat your way from Sixth Street to Fourteenth Street on the boardwalk and just like. Oh my God this is incredible. Like there's just like there's there's so many good places to eat and Johnson's popcorns and institution just like well. Now it's Michael Michael Pizza and all the other spots up there. So it's it's really good now. He is got to send him some well. They always say right. The the way to a man's heart is through his stomach. The way to my heart is through popcorn. So well done by you Mike Lombardi thank you. Let's talk about the New York. Giants Right. Says we are making me smarter segment here. The giants interviewing former Dallas cowboys head coach Jason Garrett Offensive Coordinator according. NFL Network. Listen we love the bigger for the clapper as a head coach but is you well a clip to be an offensive coordinator. My thought would be no because the fact they were not able to deploy those weapons effectively typically Dak Prescott Ezekiel Elliott excetera and basically the question is going to be. Can he mold Daniel Jones into being a great quarterback. But what do you think Mike. The clapper potentially already already resuscitated in the meadowlands. You know I think look I think if I were advising Jason Garrett I would say look man you gotta get back on the bike you gotta prove the People Bolt that you've got the ruin guru you gotta prove to people that you know how to move the football. You GotTa prove the people that you're an offensive genius. You GotTa prove the people you can develop a quarterback you gotta prove the people in the league that you understand how to attack different teams in different schemes and put points on the board even though you've carried that head coaching title. And you've had the sweets on the road and you've been in Jerry's jet all that shit don't matter no more like at some point it's all peel back and you gotta get dirty you you gotta grind it. You gotta go back to be in the sky and you've got to prove that you can do it and if you prove that you can do it you'll probably get another chance to be a head coach. There's no doubt you will because because you've got ten years of experience and now you have this tape. That says look how good the giants have played under Jason Garrett and I commend them for attempting it. Because if you don't do it you'll never get another head coaching job again. You're done you're done you'll you'll never be heard of again so you take some to go in there and do it and we're going to see really what it's made of you now and you're not going to be able to blame anybody but yourself because nobody's GonNa let you off the hook. Nobody's going. Nobody's GonNa say well he's got shitty players know if you're the great coach you're going to go in there and try to move the football I think to me if I were advising Jason Garrett I would take a step back I take a year off I study. I do whatever I could do. And and then I would take a coordinator's job somewhere or take ahead college. Coaching job somewhere. I would do that but if he's going to do it he needs to come in and do it. And there's no mis here. There's no monsieur. He's gotTa hit it. He's got hit and he's got to be good and he's got a hope that the giants are good enough to overcome what I think might be a lack of creative thinking on his apart. Now we'll see we'll see. Yeah the trick becomes listen in baseball the phillies they fire. Gabe Kaplan do you think all right. He's in trouble but boom he's a manager. Now the San Francisco giants he's got a relationship is ship with GM therefore onside etc.. But you're right sometimes. A baseball guy gets fired. Okay I'm going to bench coach. Kobe pitching coach hitting coach. Build yourself up again. And they'll get the second chance so so I'm with you on Garrett that if this is the Gig this is his reclamation project this is the time to do a better job with it. How about Pat Shurmur offensive coordinator named with a Denver broncos their head coach Vic? Fangio course made his name in the Chicago. Bears with the defensive side. The football can shurmur resuscitate his reputation after things blow up on him him with the giants. You know I thought he did in Minnesota you know and obviously I think would pat is proven is. He's probably just not a head coach. You know and I think that working working there in Denver. I think that's probably. He's going to be a well-paid coordinator for the rest of his career and yes he moved the ball really well for them. I mean look. He took case Keenum to a conference championship game. So give him credit right you know and he was able to do that and be successful and he didn't get that giant job because does he screwed up in Minnesota. He got it because he went back to work and he made a work but I think what we what was proven is is. He's not a head coach. You've won nine games in Cleveland. You one nine games in a New York. You're probably not a head coach as disappointing as that may sound but you're going to be well paid coordinator for the rest of your life. This is a great opportunity. Denver's a great place to play. You got a good young quarterback you could see see if you can make drew lock into something you've got a running game with Lindsay and Freeman that you can do something with I mean there's there's a real good opportunity for you to put your stamp on something even even though you don't WanNa be Tom more. You could be somebody like that for the next twenty years. I think that's a good move for Denver. I thought Denver's offense was bad this year. I didn't think it was very creative. Especially in the passing a game. I think drew lock show. Potential is a good higher for Denver. Even though I don't think you know I like I I don't I think you got a separate Pat Shurmur from head coach to Pat Shurmur to coordinator. What he did with? Keenum was pretty good interesting though right how you mentioned with Garrett. He's a head coach if he goes in doesn't. OC to Rehab is reputation. He can bill we head coach again whereas in Shurmur rumors case as you said he was a head coach. Now stick a backseat offense coordinator but just sounds skeptical. That Shurmur will ever get another head coaching job unless you Knox no the park with Denver. Well I don't even think you'll get one I and I think the fact that he knows will never get one. We'll make him a better offensive coordinator. I think. Sometimes I think these guys that take these jobs the want to become a head coach again. They get careful to get conservative they want. Don't WanNa be you know. They're not willing to put it out there. They want to play it safe. They want to take the to iron out and hit it down the mill fairway. I think he just says screw it. I'm going to do it. I like coaching. I'm going to go do it and I don't really. I never want to be a head coach again. I'm just going to stay in this role and do it and I'm going to be who I am. I've got my own personal freedom. I think that's a powerful thing I think when you try to be somebody you're not when you're trying to be careful you're trying to get yourself a job like a Lotta guys try to you. Know they try to endear themselves to the players because they want to get themselves a head coach down with only players talking bad about him when in fact all they're doing is talking bad about him right. The players like get man. Get that Guy Outta you know. He's not really helping us. You know so you got to coach and when you've given up the chance that you're really not coaching for another job. You're just coaching for this job. You become a great coach one more. LSU passing him coordinator. Joe Brady coveted coach linked to several. NFL teams in the off season reportedly referring to the pros coming up that national championship membership. Congrats the Bayou bengals set to join the panthers and their new head coach Matt Rule. What do you make Joe Brady? Who goes from job borough to now Cam Newton? I think this is a great move for Matt Rule. I think it's a great move for Joe Joe Brady go went down at Lsu. Seriously he really didn't see where was he going to go. Where was he gonNA? He took that program to fifteen wins. Ends God bless him right and let's give coach at. I wrote about this for the daily coach. Today give coach. Oh credit coach l.. He really showed how effective you can be as as a coach when you remove ego. When you remove Your Ego from your coaching you can become a real effective coach? Look let's face. It Ed's never playing chess with anybody right. You know. Go Tigers Tigers playing chess with anybody. He's Never GonNa win a strategic battle right and it's not because he the way he talks. It's just that you know. Edward like the game to be played in a nine on seven frame inside tough hard nose Ron and if he stayed that way he was going to lose his job. So Hires Brady. He opens things up and finally we we all see the greatness of how Lsu is athletically right we see how good they are and they go fifteen and they win a national championship and borough had a lot to do with it but really the guy who had a lot to do with and I've been critical of coach because he's not a strategist but coach owes allowing his absence of ego to come in. And just let the program run but still China have influenced you know every time you heard them talk on TV said you know we got a block right. We got tackled good. You know I mean he really focused on the fundamentals of the a game and I give them credit brady with rule. I think rule will do everything in his power to allow Brady. I would not be surprised if met hired a former head coach. Somebody like a Kevin Gilbride or you know maybe even a Ben mcadoo somebody like that to Kinda help Brady become a better coach. See the thing that makes rule you really unique coach. Israel has no ego rule has no ego and so because rule has no Wego. He's willing to hire people and he's willing to hire other people to help the coaches grow. That's a powerful thing. That's hard to stop at an eagle world. And I think that Brady will do well. We'll have a hard time adjusting. He might spend it on who he hires to help them out. Also who's the coat but I think what Matt's doing is building himself up so that he got a guy who's contemporary to compete down the road once he gets to quarterback whether it's camera someone else one oarsman I interviewed when he came to ESPN with Ryan Russillo. And I said to him. You sound a coach and I say this with affection like Billy Bob Thornton Sling Blade the Kelley blue about third mixed with a carburetor. Talking to guys who go tigers. I mean he's just honestly I was always was it. How can you take this guy seriously? But he doesn't spires players and he's a good dude after the break. Mike and I appreciate both conference. Championships happened this week. And we'll discuss that more next Everybody has taxes to do with. I gotta get milly but anyway everybody. He has taxes to do and yet not. Everybody feels comfortable doing taxes. What doesn't seem right especially when you consider all the amazing thing these same people accomplish everyday of their lice? Turbo tax believes that with the right tools and encouragement people can be good at anything yes even taxes and to help people feel more comfortable took their tax process. Turbo tax live gives you personal access to experience. CPA's and EA's who are there for you even on nights and weekends and we're happy to go through your return with new line by line to double check that you've done everything right. You can be sure to get your best possible refund and feel a hundred percent confident in your taxes turbo tax. All people are tax people All right now some attack. ABC NFC championship game previous by there. We'll talk but these. NFL players retiring early in our next segment but for the season Mamane Lombardi went forty six twenty two and one against the spread in the regular season. You went to into during wildcard week. How'd you do for the Divisional Games? Mike horrible is one and three like an idiot. You know I mean I'm falling Off The cliff here now. These games have been like I. I really felt like I handicap the Seattle game right it. Just the two point play didn't go my way. I Miss Baltimore completely. I missed that that one. I missed New England Tennessee. I've Miss Tennessee twice now in. I've been bad on Tennessee twice. Not because I don't think they're good team. I just thought somebody would exploit them and I think that this weekend. You know when I go. I watched the Tennessee tape against Kansas City again. Today I mean I mean. Kansas City has to be kicking themselves in the ASS right. They get twenty eight first downs in the game. They're seven for fourteen on third down. They have over five hundred yards in the game and they lost. I mean the titans only had the ball twenty two minutes now now. They allowed Henry to have over two hundred yards rushing. And just those twenty two minutes to gave up two hundred twenty five Russia on twenty-six they only had forty nine offense of place for the game. And how about this this. The titans are only two for eight on third down the last time they played them to eight but they gave up big plays they were able to turn the ball over when they had to. And you know now. They never really stopped Kansas City. I say this how about this for an interesting fact Kerensky officiated this game. He's doing it again. This week and that game was filled with penalties. Kansas City lost that game because they really were just horrendous had nine penalties for eighty yards and the titans is at eight for sixty four but the chiefs really had a lot of critical penalties early in the game. That really hurt them. But I think this goes back and forth. I'm not giving out my picks yet because it's is to Roy. I WanNa see if Chris Jones plays but I would say. I'm leaning towards taking Tennessee in the points B but I would say without a doubt Kansas City in that game. They might have lost the score but they control the whole game Kerr. The line is Maya seven for K.. C. The over under. Is it fifty three so I know you are not going to give your pick. But you're leaning right now it'd be titans is plus seven. Listen I it's funny ways to titans I feel the same way and that listen you can disrespect the millions disrespect them. Just just not take them serious at your own peril. Because now you've already knocked up a couple of juggernauts. Hey it's one thing to be the patriots the Ravens so can they beat the cheese an arrowhead sure but I do think. Hey this is the better team and I do think they ride the momentum of the fact. Listen Mike no matter what the deficit is they believe themselves. If you can dig out of a twenty four nothing hole and do that in a quarter in your previous game will certainly if they get down against Tennessee that second impact impact them I think. Derrick Henry is going to be vital for Tennessee. If they win this game if it's ground and pound. He gets a lot of yards. They try to control the clock. That will be huge. We've talked a lot about control. These plants control. Even though Kansas was down didn't feel like they're out of control. If felt like the Houston team was implying with complete control so I think similarly if Tennessee and you hear so often control troll possession game clock etc Derrick Henry if Ryan tannehill continued to be precise they can win the game but I am leaning Kennedy K.. City I do think that the defense improved as the season went on and I do think the home steps up and as a big game I do I mean look I think everything you said. It's completely true. I mean when I'm watching that game today I'm thinking there's no way Kency lose this game. There's just no way there's just no way I mean. They moved the ball up and down the field on them. They really didn't have an answer for Mahomes was incredible and this was his first game back off the injury he moved around the pocket. They're actually playing better now. They've got Fisher back at left. Tackle Ewing was playing left. Tackle in this game. I mean like I'm GonNa Release My picks on twitter on Saturday but I'm with you. They just moved the ball up and down the field and look. We know this that the last few years the home teams have won this rear typically the the usually. I always think this is a one in one one last year. The road team won New England. One but You know I think it's still a hard place to play in Kansas City. So we'll see it's funny though when you watch Tennessee Hennessy. Do all the things well but when it comes down to stop it on I mean. They forced fourteen third downs in the game. And they even though the chiefs converted seven of them that to me is significant. I think if you're going to beat the chiefs you got forced into fourteen third downs. And what does that mean. That means that they're not having to play drives and scoring. You're making them work. The ball down the field. Well it's interesting you mention fourteen of that magic number of the packers as we talk with the NFC championship game taking place this Sunday. Sundays six forty eastern at Santa Clara Levi Stadium. The packers a week ago had fourteen third downs and there were nine of fourteen conversion ever. Since I started watching Football Mike. Remember hearing airing forty percents third down conversions. You feel pretty good about yourself. Well if you get nine of fourteen. Let's pretty remarkable. Aaron Rodgers and company were able to do San Francisco. Currently the line is seven and a half half. I know you said you'll give your picks on twitter on Saturday but seven and a half right now San Francisco as the line over under. Is it forty five. The niners looked awfully impressive in their air performance on Saturday afternoon whereas Green Bay like I said before I think of Seattle a little time on the clock Russell Wilson may have led them to the comeback. How do you assess this matchup? Rogers grew up of course in the bay area. Going back to California. The you know the last time they played out there. I mean they've been horrible in the West Coast but this game was right. I think was Thanksgiving weekend or right before the twenty fourth they were one for fifteen on third down in this game. They had less than two hundred yards. Now here's the amazing thing about being one for fifteen on third down. This is remarkable. They had the ball thirty five minutes. How how do you hold the ball for thirty five minutes? And you're one for fifteen on third out like that's really unbelievable right you know. and they had one hundred seventeen yards rushing in the game they ran and at Twenty eight times. Four point two yards a carry. They couldn't throw the ball worth a darn. I think they're gonNA throw the ball a hell of a lot better. I think they'll be able to move the ball you know and I think that even though you know all the niners won the game and looks like dominated the game by the scoreboard. There's areas of that tape when you watch it that the you know the packers didn't you know the niners that too many penalties. The packers hacker's really couldn't do anything in the passing game. They struggled you know the average one point nine yards per pass play. You think that's going to happen again with Air Rogers seriously. Do you think that's going to happen to get I. Don't I think so. You know even though I'm not in love with the packer defense. You know it's hit or miss. I could see this being a game where you know with the atoms plan. I I know the niners are the better team. I know the niners defensive front matches up really well with any team they play but the way the packers play last week you know. I don't think they're going to be one for fifteen on third third-down team stats for this year. The niners scored thirty points per game. The packers score twenty three and a half defensively though that Green Bay defence allow twenty three. The forty niners allow just ten points per game. So I think the defense is definitely better like you said Green. Bay's defense still is notable. I don't we don't really talk pets here but I some people circling this devante Adams and George Orange kid very similar numbers for the year. demonte Adams had eighty-three catches kid. Eighty five Adams had ninety seven yards kit a lot. One thousand fifty three they. They both had five touchdowns who do you think the bigger game. Davante Adams or kittle are they adams has to have a big game if the packers are going to win Adams has to play huge. He's their key guy they gotta get him the ball. They can't allow the doubles to take him out of the game because for them to throw the football effectively. He's got to be the guy that makes the play because if the packers are going to average sleep more than that he's definitely going to have to have a big game. Yeah he was eight catches for one hundred sixty a week ago. You're right. He was absolutely enormous for erogenous. Anytime the time he was in trouble he clearly was the guy he was going to. All right like Mike said he'll give his official picks on Saturday on twitter. You can follow him. Emma Lombardi and a foul wake up next so major no news here when it comes is to another elite. NFL player retiring before the age of thirty. We'll talk about leuke clean others next. We hope you enjoy brilliant. Sound your way on Sonos. 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It was a two thousand twelve defensive rookie of the year. Two thousand thirteen defensive player of the year he's had at least three concussions and to shoulder surgeries since two thousand fifteen. Then think some. These names down Mike Rob Gronkowski. Andrew luck both retired last year at the age of twenty nine. Calvin Johnson Mega truck thirty years of age and retired four years ago. Arena arena more guys like this luke equally. Step away before age of thirty great great players more to give Ya know I think we are. I think you've got to prepare for that. I think you definitely have to to do that. I mean it's a shame I think one of the great you know. He's the great player that plays great but prepares even greater you know like if you played Carolina and you made a check and you called the yellow weasel like they did the other day on TV. Luke Kuechley would have been in the week see gap. He would have been right there before the ball would have been snapped. He'd have been sitting there. You know and Co offensive coordinators to fuck with them a little bit because they would do dummy checks and Kinda messed with them and you couldn't really Kinda once you got him once you ain't getting them twice like he had an unbelievable ability to know because he studied prepared he was a great great preparation and detail player with instincts. And let's face it. I mean this is a violent island sport. It's physical in. His body took a beaten. I mean that time. He was got a concussion. He was crying visibly on the sideline which look I'm not going to go all Jonny sack on you and say he shouldn't have cried like Johnny did at the wedding when he went back because he was hurt right you know so I think he's a man's man I think he's a great player and I'm kind of happy. He's walking walking away on his terms not on someone else's but what kind of a man cries at his daughter's wedding the fact he's being pulled away by the president. I'm Frank Vincent fill the Atari. Just couldn't respect Jonny sack after that it just couldn't I mean that's that's that's one of my favorite episodes to Mr Mrs John. Sacramento Frankie Valli. On the beginning of that look at this shit he throws throws it down then the music you know at last that Ba and the best is when Tony and they're all sitting around the table and they're talking in code because the FBI guys are there. Aw It's the best it's an Christopher how about Christopher's line of the century and that one then. You should ask him not to do this. Because this is the day of his daughter's wedding you you should ask them not to do this. Great Obayashi of course of the Godfather there was so funny Last guy is retiring. Listen we know. It's about injuries and stuff like that. But what do you think. It's only for elite money-making players Michael Do you think if you're an average player who's battling injuries you're more inclined to keep going meaning money in the bank. Is these guys. I think that has something to do with it but I think also you know. Let's face it. I mean you know. He's taken a pounding. I mean he plays in a violent section of the field that you know requires choirs constant hitting constant battling. And you know it's not easy for me you know. Look he's a dinosaur right. He played three downs. You know linebackers today. If you get a three readout linebacker they're worth their weight in gold. And if you get three down Mike linebacker he might be as valuable as a pass rushing defensive end and so the way the game has changed if you can get a Mike Linebacker linebacker bobby wagner who could attack the pocket or like that Simmons Kit for Clemson number eleven. Those guys are unbelievably valuable because they can impact the game on all different levels. Calls and key can do that. You know the other thing. That's interesting is the short career. These guys are less about getting into the hall of Fame Than Anything Right. They're basically saying. Screw the hall of fame. I'm done like Andrew Luck. I would rather give up the hall of fame and feel good about my body. Then keep playing just to get into the hall of fame name. I think that shows that they are great teammates and they're bigger than themselves like they don't care about their own egos they care about their self. They care about their health and the people say well. That's being selfish. No it's really not. I mean. They're doing the team favored by saying we don't want to play anymore. I've been around teams or a lot of guys you know. Don't WANNA play. But they keep playing you know they just keep playing. Pretend they're playing chicken with the hall of fame because you're right. Normally people are going to say well. They weren't durable enough playoff games. They're going to. I don't care I got my health. I made enough money. I had a great run. It's time to move on speaking time to move on. 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The miracle is a is to a chunk of Iowa. No are you surprised. I'm what I'm surprised. Prized about is is that I was sitting in my car waiting to hear the words from his mouth. Because no one knew it's time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless. That's that's the that's the miracle like in this in this day and age where we have all the information at our fingertips. We were literally waiting to hear it from his mouth and it's a miracle and it was so refreshing it was very refreshing especially because I know how important the decision was. We're going to get into it. But when you look at his face Jason his reactions and even the answers to how he answered that but I just think it was a very very a warming thing with this day and age the media. Yeah how this company has thrives on having that inside information now right and just the information rate already had any idea until twelve o'clock eastern to was going to stay and I think it was the right decision for him to leave. I agree I think timing is of the essence when you're an athlete and the amount of injuries that too has had and the dollar sign that's projected for him. I think absolutely is but I understand the heartstrings. That are pulling for two. And maybe that family when you uproots that family you move it Alabama you go all in you. Don't want your last memory of planet Alabama real serious hip injury absolutely Nicole so I understand that but listen you only a one bite at the apple at this. NFL career at a lot of money to turn. Its Nicole. Briscoe and Taylor twelve men with you on the Stephen Smith Show I just you look at the numbers in the NFL in the amount of money that they essentially throw at you or if you are a first round pick and there's a big difference between there was once that conversation was like Oh tank tank for two or whatever right so he was presumptive number one for a long time and look it cuyler Murray last year right the difference between Cuyler Marie and Dwayne haskins color. Murray twenty any ish million dollars Dwayne Haskins only eight and a half million dollars for falling as as down and he's dead and it's middle the first round and right now I mean Mel Kiper junior on his big board says he's the third best available player in the draft. So if you need a quarterback to is going to is going early so you're setting yourself up even if a team is taking a arrest you're setting yourself up and you're essentially your future family up for generational racial wealth. How do you say no to that? I stay behind. You take a chance. I think because to a just letting the natural reaction to the situation didn't want to go out his Alabama Alabama career. He envisioned winning the Heisman and then moving on he envisioned a totally different last season. But that's not how sports that's life in Hell Bingo Ingo. I look at the situation. I know everyone in the NFL and talks about the money thing. But hear me out your packers. Fan did Aaron Rodgers end up making more money because because he went to a better situation my argument with two if they would've asked me and said hey what do you know why I'm not going top seven. Well hold on a minute you you talk about the twenty five twenty eight million to eight million between column Murray. You'll get it you're going to ten fold. You're you're going now. So so what. If you don't make it up the top group you stay healthy and you are as good as everyone expects you to be your one year closer to that next deal and that next year is going to be even beggar so just just get there earlier. Stephanie Smith is going to call into his own. Is that Weird Steven A.. Is going to call in to his own shoe very few people life. It's not that weird. I think Stephen as one of them he'd loves right. So straight talk wireless. Everything for lasts only at Walmart. We're going to have much more onto his decision because the the press conference was a little it told me a lot. Yeah there was a lot you could take into physically if if we could read sort of leg the look on his face like body language and there's a family dynamic so Laura relatives has been in Tuscaloosa. She's GonNa join us a little bit later. Dan Roloff ski is GonNa join us to sort of his perspective and you can add to this as somebody who was injured in your career was cut short at a time that you had years left. So we'll get to that a little bit later but there was another big story too and I I. I was a little annoyed because we sportscenter AM I. I am this morning in Randolph. Scott like could we have these information thirty minutes early thirty by the way. It sort of feels like I'm cheating on Randolph. You Randolph is okay with it I do. I think he's feeling that this is even it's fine. Now you're onto something. It's good anyway. Ah Ten four am literally ten. Oh Four Adam. Schefter is confirming. That Mike McCarthy will be named the ninth head coach in the history of the Dallas cowboys. And I'm like cool. Where was this five minutes ago? Four and a half minutes ago we could have been leg but a little the least said it now. Now so you're the former packers fan are still packers fan. No no no. I was born in Wisconsin. I'm still using former head coach. Is it the right move. I like it I do. Here's here's my thing I think if you wanted a splash and you wanted to name and you wanted to be all glitzy. Whatever fine? Maybe this isn't that move for Dallas fans. But you've got a guy who has done something. Your last cancel of coach hasn't been able to do Jason Guarantee. You barely you the super bowl. Fifty percent of the time Mike McCarthy won a super bowl in the building in that I happen going to be. I know because you don't really remember that but you were there I was there I remember i. Are you kidding me. No I remember like that was like one of the greatest days of my little my little sports life But I I but no like this guy who has done great things remember. Sort of like the heyday of Aaron Rodgers. And that offense. I'm the first person to tell you that Aaron Rodgers and then offense is this year not exactly what I was hoping for it to be and I don't necessarily think Rogers is the player that he was. So what can and I'm GONNA go ahead and say that I'm Assuming Dax staying in Dallas Alice. So what can Mike McCarthy do with a young and up and coming quarterback and Dak Prescott. He's also a guy that I think he's been humbled right. I think Mike McCarthy who didn't get a couple of jobs last year after he was fired by Green Bay think he's been humbled by that anyone would be in the right mind so then he's humbled but he also is like I don't care about the press conferences. Let Jerry go out and be the face. I'll just stand buying coach. The team and I don't know when Games. Yeah I mean Nicole when you really look at it. There's always there's two sides to the story because the Dallas cowboys and that brand is so large in big. There's the exciting sexy aspect of that way more often the not the owner takes a huge part. He takes huge pride him. That being who you are the cowboys so the Lincoln Riley's right right. You Look at the college coach that kind of aspect right the sexy name coming in media go to twitter go to social media and even some of our media media here at ESPN debt are huge cowboys. Fans look at it but the truth of the matter is that when you look at Mike McCarthy's time time with the packers in comparison to other teams in the NFC by the way two thousand eight to two thousand sixteen the best record in the NFC. WHO's the coach? Mike McCarthy top-five offense top ten defense in taught there no. Yeah it's not bad one hundred twenty five seventy seven in a to. I love the the two ties I mean. That's a damn good record right. But we're left because the media tells us that Aaron Rodgers and he didn't get along anymore. WHOA that's like any relationship? We're we're GONNA talk about Tom. Brady and Bill Belichick. I'm not saying those removal always been says and rainbows unless you're married. Hell hell marriages fall ballpark for that. Reason right relationships in life they sort of have like a timeline on everything runs its course. I don't look at Aaron Rodgers any differently only then I look at Mike McCarthy. I don't look at Tom Brady any differently that I look at Bill Belichick if there are cracks in the relationship. Fine whatever I feel like again. Hey Kid that's life like you make it work and sometimes when it's run its course one of you has to go in a different direction. Well that's what happened in Green Bay and put yourself in a cowboys fan. Dan Shoes I want sexy. One everything I actually think. This is a pragmatic move. I actually believe this is a move that surprised me now. People are saying. What's the difference between Green Jason Garrett and Mike McCarthy and just law minutes absolutely big difference leadership there I just hope Mike McCarthy's changed a little bit because because what Aaron Rodgers and the packers when they let them go analytics and the new wait you know the new NFL? He wasn't totally part of how he was won over the next sixty last sixty eighteen months if he did anything on that. I have a feeling Stephen. A has a few thoughts on this. And we'll hear from Stephen on the Stephen Smith show coming up in just a little bit he's going to call in on ESPN radio. It's Nicole Briscoe in Taylor. Twelve minutes filling in for that very loud loud booming voices that we don't really need to just get him on the John. Do you honestly think though that Jerry Jones could have pulled somebody like Lincoln Riley absolutely do. Oh you do I do why because I think we are underestimating. The power of the cowboys brand and what that job entails. That is the rich's rich's team in pro sports in the United States of America. It's in the top five across the world. And that's exactly what I was just go so that prestige for Lincoln Riley with all due respect. I'm not heating on the Oklahoma sooners program. But you're going to resurrect the cowboys and be the first coach to lead him back to Super Bowl. Where by the way everyone you you you and I were very young when the cowboys were in the Super Bowl last well yeah? We talked about him every day. Like if you are in your like Kyung Thirties right. And I'm a little older than that so I do have memories of them being good in part because of I mean they sort of beat up on my team a couple of times along the way but if you are young a young thirties late twenties you would have had been like a kindergartner. Something or younger to remember them. Actually being Marcus Spears who works here two years. Yeah and he was was eleven years old he played for. The cowboys was eleven years old when they were in the Super Bowl. Last so my point of this whole thing can I i. Yes and now you're asking me. Is that intriguing. Joel Riley feel like it is. That's the reason why I think it's not as intriguing anymore. And I think every this goes with things being cyclical and life life right. There was once a point of time in the NBA. Where the Knicks? Ya like Madison Square Garden the Knicks that was the Mecca. That's where you wanted to be. Now they can't get anyone and a lot of that is ownership in a lot of that is the way that things have gone. But you're just because you were once bright shiny and you were the new shiny object doesn't mean you're always going to be that way like sometimes the shine comes off in sometimes the ownership and the antics of the ownership shipped where thin and you don't WanNa fall in line anymore and I just don't know I'm not saying that Lincoln Riley is GonNa get pulled from Oklahoma to go to the Cleveland job but I'm not saying it was as a slam dunk as maybe at once was and I don't think you're wrong on that and I kind of agree with you to this extent. Is We do talk. I mean put it this way when cowboys insiders and NFL FANS NFL analyst. And whatever on our network say while Whoa you gotta get the cowboys back. What does that mean? Make the playoffs because this year. They didn't make the playoffs. Like do you not enough that no make. The playoffs isn't good enough so when we did this in my view on that team. That's not good enough. But you're arguing my brand thing and that's what I'm talking about any other team talk talent. I'm arguing talents. I'm looking at that roster. The way that they had it constructed this season the number of pro bowlers. They had more pro bowlers on that team than any other team in. NFL by kind of a long shot. So Mike McCarthy's only successful if he goes to super bowl. I know where you're going with us. No he doesn't have to go to the Super Bowl but he has to. He has to be he has to be close okay. I'll give him a couple of seasons to. He doesn't necessarily have to do it next year but he has to do it within the first three and I'm curious on what other people as they get dive into this is. How much is this higher to groom Jason Witten and help him along and then he fills in? Because I'll tell you one thing. Everyone in their mothers told me that Jason Witten is going to be the next head coach of the cowboys. And when I look at that deal is this. Is that why Mike McCarthy's is kind of one of those things wins going to come in. Just Kellen Moore stay we. You don't know it right. Yeah how is Mike McCarthy going to change that entire team I'm a dad. The number one offense in the NFL. Esther I just want statistically they had the number one offense in the NFL all right and yet. We're talking about Mike McCarthy coming in why you don't really want to change that part no no but even when I was GonNa say this here like the point. which is the problem? The point they had no problems scoring your host of the time like the point differential was there they have. Zeke Elliott missed missed and that time and still was what the fourth leading rusher in the NFL this season. You know what I'm getting though. What are you getting at Mike? McCarthy's higher that tells me they've already had. They did have a sleepover Saturday night. So they've already gone through that and just kind of curious what was on and what did they do like did they play Madden and like if Jerry Jones you know. Whoever was two out of three they got to make the decision? Like like I've just the two laser was Marvin Lewis there as well all like. Maybe it was just like a big sleepover. Maybe that's how they decided to be more defensive coordinator. We have no the idea but he was there for the sleep over it. So maybe it was Marvin Lewis and it was Jerry Jones and it was. It was Mike McCarthy and I would imagine in my little messed up mind here. It was also Stephen Jones there so Steven Jones was making the popcorn and getting ready for like the two madden controller. Kind of want that story in in the back of my mind like Jerry Jones is like sitting there and some like Hugh hefner ask robe like in the back lounge chair just like naturally. It's really ready. GUYS winner of this game gets to be the new head. Coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Ready set go painted an unbelievable picture. I think I might beyond onto something. But I also think Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy might be onto something because that's sleepover describing what you're GonNa do with the staff. This was already. I think the wheels already because I think it also kind of leaked out to Taylor twelve minutes into culprits. Go with you on the Stephen Smith show whatever Shriek Bay packers. The My baseball allegiances are complicated. uh-huh whatever jobs I think I think the wheels were in motion. Like obviously it took them awhile to admit to the fact that yet we are uh-huh actually moving on from Jason Garrett but I think the wheels were in motion. They already had an idea of what they wanted. That's why this has come so quickly. Relatively quickly sleepover at a sleepover. I was going to ask you a question and all your sleep over like made me lose my mind. Just slightly It kind of fits the Jerry Jones. Stephen Jones was. Who Do you think had had the bigger role in this decision? Because like look Jerry. Jerry's White Jerry seventy seven. I don't remember I had for breakfast this morning. But I'm pretty sure. Jerry Jones is seventy any seven right and Steven Jones is the future. Who Do you think had more to say? Isn't that funny when you say that that number for Jerry Jones. He's still seems quicker younger than that. That number with how he responds in certain moment. He doesn't say in certain things I find Jerry Jones. It'd be very intriguing on that aspect I having Stephen Jones is extremely powerful. I think anyone's naive to think otherwise But I'm not arguing that I do. Not I do think Jason Witten and that dynamic what what is is this kind of Mike. McCarthy's brought in bring some leadership. Bring some he does have a lease a super bowl to his name and developing -veloping Aaron Rodgers so credibility. He's going to have the locker room but what he does with the Defense Nicole. All on talking about is Mike. McCarthy is known for his relationship hip. And what do you do with Aaron Rodgers. Okay so you're GONNA make better. They're already the number one offense. That defense couldn't stop anybody but I also remind you to. What's suspect is still bring back back whether it's you give him a contract or you franchise tag him like he's not unknown states or is he developing deck of course or she's GonNa help improve him but he he developed Aaron Rodgers? Mike McCarthy was there he was a huge part of that. You follow going. Yeah I loved the conversations about Dolphin staff number one offense in the NFL. But if that's if that's the conversation and that's where we're going I do have some concerns as a packers fan. I can think off the top of my head only a handful of times where I was like. Damn that's a good defense right. which is concerning or you take the Lincoln Riley Oklahoma approach where like Acquai- offense is so good? It doesn't matter if my defense can't stop anything because my offense is just GonNa outscore you. So are we okay with that. Now like if you're a Dallas fan are you okay with that and I think that's why there's concern I really believe that now has the leper changes stripes a little bit. And he has. He learned anything from being away from the NFL. That's what's going to truly tell us whether Mike McCarthy's up to work for Jerry Jones and the Dallas cowboys so it was a big weekends in the NFL. And that is sort of continuing on on this Monday as we continue the conversation on the Stephen a Smith show it. Is Taylor. Twelve minute Nicole. Briscoe so too is declaring for the draft. We'll get into that a little bit later. Mike McCarthy is the new coach Not officially name but he is the new coach of the Dallas Cowboys. It was a very wild card weekend was appropriately named no wait. So while this the saints. It's and the Vikings got involved in a game controversial endings. If you've heard that before as kirk cousins okay now has has. He changed the narrative. I can't wait to talk to your mind talk to you about Carson Wentz as well. Yep that's that's it. Well I mean I can't imagine what it it was like for him to know that something was wrong and he had to say I need to be checked out. S- it's very talk wireless everything for less only at Walmart So all of that still coming coming up. Plus what did you actually think of the hit. That Dave Nonni Connie levels on Carson. Wentz all of that coming up for you plus a confrontation with Stephen Smith. He's GonNa call in to his radio show which she's not weird at all but he's GonNa make that happen. Who Paid Todd? 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For just forty five bucks a month no contract straight talk wireless only at Walmart which NFL game this this weekend sort of has you still still like running through it in your mind. I live in Boston so it's very difficult. Hearing what everything was about in New England leading up to the game when they lost to Miami Emme than all of a sudden losing the by L. may be Tom Brady. Yeah final home game at Fox and for the first time Nicole and I've lived there now almost seventeen years for the first time I I heard normal hot take Spitfire and radio show host TV host. Everyone was humbled because nobody thought it. Whatever get to this point? Everyone thought he would ride off into the sunset. He would do it his way. It rarely happens that way. Because when you are in the market market in you or you don't become objective. That is a very don't you. After object of reading the signs and understanding that this Bella check and Brady relationship chip has been so strong and beneficial. But it has had some cracks in how it's led to this point and I think a lot of people saw the writing on the wall. Any hit him. So you can t answer your question for me. It's still the Patriots. Lose into the dolphins then that last play the Tom Brady and the Patriots uniform could be a pick six. I don't know about that boy. Leaves you with a nasty taste in your mouth. I'm not even a patriots fan only when it's convenient. Yeah absolutely no. I just think it's so very very rarely happens. That in athletes able to write off into the sunset. Whatever peyton manning ought to do it right John Elway got to do it but like Peyton? Manning's is a perfect example. If the colts could just let him go then no one is safe kind of things. Okay so for me. I can't get this one image out of my mind. It's Carson Wentz just walking off walking off the field second series of that game and and there was there was the hit by Judean cloudy and Carson and it was it was an aggressive hit flag. Just targeting should it have been yes why One judging intent is almost impossible so I'm not even going down that way and for the record heard cloudy said I did not intend to hurt him and I hope he is. Okay but that also doesn't mean autograph right so when I look at how he head to the back of the head helmet-to-helmet matter what it is it's been called as a foul. It's being called as a penalty so now it's not in that game just it's like offensive. Pass interference yet. I had an issue with he'd saints issue with that one view. This the officiating was very difficult for me. Now Carson wentz knocked going going to the ground and not sliding and therefore the officiating afterwards saying that. He didn't give himself up. He was a runner. So it was fair game I'm basing thing it not on Carson Wentz. Not Giving himself up. which I do believe is a huge part of this But that's how much how to the back of the head for me. That's so you say it's a grievous Carson wentz own teammate Jason. Peters he had a different word for it when he went down now behind the eight ball new quarterback new Oh cadence with all the injuries just uphill battle. I mean I've seen the replay. Somebody just stay on the quarterback to dirty dirty play and he's acknowledged you know I'll I'll just finishing the play and I I. There's part of me that agrees with that. I think Loni was trying to finish the play. Oh absolutely the problem that we have in. This is the world in which we live but we see everything in slow motion. Yeah right you're in real time. It looks like a big hit but in real time it doesn't look as egregious the hard part when we see it over and over and over. How is this working officiated? Well well I don't know because if you watch the end of the Saints Game I don't know how it's being officiated because my eyes say that's a full arm extension in that's offensive pass interference but again like the rule has to apply to both. So are we looking at it or are we not looking at it because if we're not looking at it in slow motion then. I don't know if I'm viewing it the degree but that's why they have replaced because it's humanly impossible hospital to pull this off officiated almost one hundred percent so that's why replay was introduced in my sport soccer football around the world we're now using replay and it's been an absolute circus because you've got different evaluations in England and Germany and he states Italy wherever it may be my point of this. Is that real real time. Slow motion slow motion you go to replay back in the helmet hit to the back of Carson Wentz for me. It's not dirty because that's saying he intentionally really tried to do that right. But the tackle in the type of should've been flags. Therefore it should have been flagged and a but that's still would've kept Carson Wentz going into lock it doesn't it doesn't change anything. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Pick from a range of coverage options with the name your price tool to find a price that works works for you. It's the Stephen a Smith radio show on ESPN radio. It's Nicole Briscoe and Taylor twelve and a stephen is on the phone. WE'RE GONNA get into second and I also want to get back to the image that I can't have had the other big story today. Though is the one that's out of Dallas and the fact that they have hired a new head coach. What less than twenty four hours after admitting that they finally parted ways or are moving on from Jason Gary Stephen a Smith S.? Welcome to your own radio program. Sir I taking I know that you you never really have anything to say at all about the Dallas cowboys. So I'm curious what you think. What do you think about their higher as Mike McCarthy as their new? I'm not moved I'm not overly impressed I want to emphasize that I think that he deserves our respect. He's a super bowl. Champion and Super Bowl champion but on top of that all thirteen years. I believe he's taking them to the postseason the packers to the postseason about nine different times so he is to be respected. And I certainly don't mean to imply that does not what I'm saying is take into account. What the cowboys situation is Dak.? Prescott Ezekiel Elliott Jerry Jones. The personality that exists in Dallas the microscope that you live under. What have you you? He would seem to be an ideal coach because of his resume. But when you think about all the things that come with being associated with the Dallas Cowboys Oh boy I don't know if that's a match made inherit in heaven. Then you combine that with how he departed from Green Bay. You're talking about a guy that had who I consider considered to be the greatest talent at the quarterback position to game has ever witnessed in that bad man known Arron Rogers and when he walked out the door. The news news was His relationship with Aaron Rodgers was not ideal. Amerada just thought that the offense was a pretty archaic Relatively predictable the books. And that's a new element need to be needed to be implemented into the situation involving Green Bay fresh ideas is fresher mindset etc etc.. And you WanNa look at Mike McCarthy and say if anybody deserves a second bite at the apple it's a super bowl champion who went to the playoffs playoffs nine times and thirteen years And and everybody's allowed to adapt and change in Cro. So I certainly again don't mean the cast any aspersions on on him but I'm thinking about the mess that is the Dallas Cowboys who repeatedly underachieved. And I've never ever encountered US looking at the Green Bay packers acas in the Mike McCarthy era and accusing them over a teasing so that's why I'm a bit melancholy on the situation. It's not a bad higher by any stretch. Because we're we're talking about. But did I expected more than I expected. Better from Jerry Jones. Yes I did Stephen Taylor twelve and holding down the Fort for you here in Bristol biggest question. I have are actually surprised that I want your reaction was that Jerry Jones didn't want someone that was inexperienced didn't didn't want someone from the college ranks and yet he's done that before and had success. That caught me off guard with the report. Then when Mike Mike McCarthy if he's GonNa be the next cowboys head coach well what we heard was that he was looking at the end studying the analytics and the people of that are experts in the analytical department were telling him about how things were trending in the NFL in the analytic world as it pertained to college coaches and their success or lack thereof on the NFL level And that played a role in influencing Jerry Jones to say we need somebody who's been here on this level who's who's got it who's done it at a high level. That's the kind of guy that we need. Dad was his thinking behind it. I can not fault him for that. My personal opinion is that the the best person for the job certainly not long term but in terms of a stopgap measure would have been urban Meyer last two jobs. Urban Meyer has had in college football. WHOA eastbound eighty five and ninety percent of his games respectfully The man has Respectively the man has won three national. Titles he is without question next to nick. Statement considered of the greatest football coach of the modern era. And this is before Davos sweetie came onto the scene and now that dabbled sweeney is there. He definitely Lee has to be inserted into that compensation at Clemson but the bottom line is nobody can were few the level of credibility that urban Meyer has health issues. Obviously workers turn as so when you look at it from a long-term perspective urban. I is not your guy but if you're the Dallas cowboys what are you thinking about long term for you need to be thinking about the here and now because Jerry Jones is the one that is looking at his own mortality at eight seventy seven. He's the one that has eluded to the fact that he's running out of time. He's the one that highlighted the reality that it's about now it's not about later and to me of all of those things. Are Things that you certain publicly as well as privately then to me it would have been a no brainer go to route up urban Meyer. Who I think would have demanded the respect off? Aw Anybody he was coaching because even though it was at a collegiate level his success simply cannot be denied. It was nothing short of extraordinary. And if you ever considering Lincoln Riley how could you not consider Urban Maya Lincoln Riley. We don't know who was all considered heard conversation just that as it has come out that they were talking to guys like Marvin Lewis and Mike McCarthy that they wanted somebody with well yeah. Can I project about that. I think Marvin Lewis was simply a higher to address The Rooney rule and to placate folks. I don't think that Marvin Lewis was a legitimate candidate. As as an African American in this country is one of the things that I find absolutely appalling that on too many occasions black coaches get interviewed. When they've got no chance in Hell Oh of getting the job but you just want to satisfy the rule itself which mandates that you must interview minority candidates and give them consideration before ultimately making a high in the case of Marvin Lewis? I never would have supported him being the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I think that he deserves a shot to the head coach in the National Football League again but any man that's coach for sixteen years and couldn't win one. Single Damn playoff game doesn't deserve to be the head coach of the number one brand in professional sports or at at least professional football. That is the Dallas cowboys. But I still don't appreciate the fact that all the people that you interview to appease the whole looney rule situation it it was Marvin Lewis. I don't think you're wrong Stephen I I don't think you're wrong. Let me let me ask you this. Because as you mentioned you know Jerry. Jones is north of seventy five. He's he he said it himself. He's running out of time. Given that. How short or how long is the leash with Mike McCarthy for success well I think that unless US disaster? I think you can look forward to seeing Mike McCarthy at least the next two or three years in Dallas and believe it or not contrary what folks may believe About me because they know I despise cowboy fans across the club I I've I will never waver from the fact that I think cowboy fans has the most disgusting nauseating Fan Fan base in the history of American sports. They make me sick and nothing makes me happier than that. He had them miserable because they can go. One in fifteen and this season on January fifth at seven o'clock about seven fifteen there declaring. They're going to win the Super Bowl next year. This is what annoys me about Cowboy waistband. But I don't feel that way about the cowboys organization and I don't certainly I certainly don't feel that way about Jerry Jones who I've gotten to know and to be quite honest with you. I'm incredibly Fonda. Rondo both him and Steven Jones. I just think that when we look at them right now to ask the question about Mike McCarthy and how long he's going to last it all depends on Jerry when I spoke to Adam Schefter and more Chris Mortensen the gray ones on. I take this morning and they both said that Jerry Jones voice was the boys Steven. Stephen Jones was heard along with others in Jerry Jones in the circle but he was the voice. I understand I respect that. That is the way that it should be what I'm wondering about is what there was there. A dissenting voice in the room and Jerry. Jones said the hell with you. I'm going to do what I WANNA do. All always everybody on board there. Mike McCarthy was the way to go so go ahead POPs. Let's do this and that's what he's done. I'm wondering which way it fell and all all of that but again this is not a horrible higher. It's not a bad higher. I'm just saying with all the nonsense that went on with the Dallas cowboys. Deceased how flagrantly flagrantly they so underachieved with all the nonsense and the noise that came with them. It is shocking that they answered that with Mike McCarthy. I expected more from them. We didn't get it. But we have to wish Mike McCarthy luck because if anybody deserves a second chance it's the super bowl champion. That's gone to the playoffs. Nearly seventy five percent of the time. He's a super bowl champion. Who won a title in that very building that he'll be making his home for or at least next season in seasons comet Stephen a Smith host or I take and this very show this evening Smith Radio Show Thank you sir for letting us keep your seat nice and warm for you in your absence since bullcrap. We'll try to do a good job. I appreciate it. I have no doubt Shell do a great job and let them audience. No I will be back next Monday a week from today in this up words directly from Stevens mouth. Thanks have a good time away. It's the Stephen a Smith show. It's Nicole Briscoe. Ann Taylor twelve men coming up. What is the the weirdest gift you've ever given or received only back in a minute? What you're in the middle of a Stephen a Smith Show podcast take the ESPN daily podcast? Bringing you a deep dive into a single-story from one of espn hundreds of reporters presented by Dell small business download subscribe and review. ESPN in daily available. Wherever you enjoy podcast? It's the Stephen a Smith show on. Espn Radio Taylor. Twelve and Nicole Briscoe with yoke. What is the weirdest of ever? I'M GONNA keep this real short and yeah as we are on national radio and God only knows what's called got something used. I'll just leave it at that used so I opened and something And I'm like what he's 'cause it looks like a weapon and I sent a picture to my husband. I'm like what is he goes. Oh I was wondering when it finally came for Christmas we. It's your gift. He gave it to me. It's like a ton your husband gave you a knife to kill. 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When you look at what the houston astros dead before the trading deadline expired the fact of the matter is their rotation is much much better than the new york yankees and pitching to me me wins world series champions. I see the bronx bombers beating up on the hapless baltimore orioles. I see torres whereas being treated like the second coming of barry bonds orioles manager talking about how he's obliterated us. He's massacred us so damn it. I got tired. Eboni intentionally walked them with two people on anyway. I didn't give a damn thirteen runs against the orioles and thirteen home runs in ninety two other games against everybody else. You could beat up on a little hell. I b. i it listen. Hey it ain't tough to be the tallest dude in a small man's contest. It ain't that tough and that's not to say that's what the yankees doing but let's be clear. Let's be very very clear. I'm telling you right now. When you look at it and you call it what it is the new york yankees. I don't care what anybody says i. I can't believe i'm about saying at the way the nets demetz looking. I'd give them a better chance to win the world series because i believe they're pitching more than i believe in the yankees. I don't will give a damn. How many times have you seen the yankees. Smack in home runs all over the place until october and then suddenly they can't find their batch when they really really need it. I la game seven in houston stint a._l. A couple of years ago you need pitching dunedin pitching for surveys. Brian cashman wasn't able to get it before the trading deadline for some reason it didn't happen happen and i'm just not a believer i of course the yankees go to the polls season. Hell am i go to the a._f._c. They beat the houston astros astros. Hell now with my money on it with my money on it at an eight say e._s._p._n. Inundate seven to nine three seven six you listen the stephen smith show which is being brought to you by the new shell v power nitro plus premium gasoline now four levels of defense against gunk where corrosion rosen and friction believe it or not despite my diatribe just now against the new york yankees. That wasn't wasn't even a focal point of what i wanted to talk about when to leave today's show usually before i get into my job. I'd say it's time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless. That was just all my heart on my chest because of the way the yankees look at right now. Everybody's beside themselves. I'm not sold on rotation now. Believe in the middle relievers can delivered this chap nick mariana rivera. I don't believe it they'll be they'll be a contender but oh you bet your money on against the astros absolutely positively not so. I just want to say that. I just wanted to say that our number two. I'm gonna get into the n._b._a. Schedule would it really really like about it. I will tell you that right now. I'm in l._a. About film commercial shoe and being out here in l._a. Is just a beautiful thing. Sunshine and beautiful palm trees is always you know what tom it is but just looking at the hub of the n._b._a. Hi it's l. a. It's l._a. Anything associated with the n._b._a. Should be in l._a. Right now. I think the two best teams in basketball are right here. You're in l._a. I think the championship comes down to the lakers and the clippers philadelphia seventy sixers. We'll have something to say about it. Boss the celtics. We'll have something to say about it. What's kevin durant gets back to brooklyn healthy. He might have something to say about it but i'm telling you for the moment right now for the time being i'm here to tell you. The hope of the basketball universe resides a loss angeles cala for asia basketball. This is the mecca right now ladies and gentlemen the staple center is the one arena in the entire n._b._a. That will have a championship contender on its basketball. Walk court all eighty two games of the regular season. No other arena can say that you know why because teams aims only get forty one games a year but the staple center have as plan in the same arena and i i happen to believe they're the two favorites to win the championship but i'll get into all of that as the show progresses for the time being i want to transition back to some national football league news because no surprise antonio brown make an absolute fool fool of himself fighting over not wanting to wear a new helmet and comply not wanting to comply with n._f._l. New safety measures to protect the players and potentially avoid concussion protocol and and hopefully prolong individuals careers antonio brown was fight it gets all of this because he wants to wear the same helmet he's been wearing for years which is outdated and no longer falls under the compliance rules the national football league so does he complain no. He doesn't stop there. Does he argued about it. No he doesn't stop there. Betsy hired attorney and get his agent drew rosenhaus evolve. No he doesn't stop there attorney. Go and argue with the n._f._l. No he doesn't stop there. This do decides that he is going to quit football and forfeit <music> off it thirty million dollars unless he gets to wear the exact helmet he wants to wear. I told you yesterday was lying behind off. I told you that yesterday one seconds thirty million dollars. Don't let them fool you. He's gonna get that money. You know matter of fact when people tell you they don't need the money unless it's warren buffett bill gates somebody like that. Don't believe him. They need the money always remember that always remember that but anyway forget about me just talking about this my guy n._f._l. Analyst e._s._p._n. Attributed the first take catchable the n._f._l. Live today as well from super bowl champion with the new england patriots <hes> the one and only damien woody on allowance. What's not big boy how you doing. I'm man. I'm jealousy right now out in l._a. Weather well you know. I mean the weather in new york in bristol a bad right. Now i mean they like is december pro. Stop stop exaggerating. The vob in l._a. Is different. Though that is true that is true. You know i'm about to do a commercial and you know i'm hanging with snoop dog today and the oakland okay. That's their humble brag right over. All i'm trying to say. Is you know what i mean to dispose man. You know what you can't happy. Here's david. Let's let's get right into a bro. <hes> your thoughts about this whole thing with antonio brown now that it seems seems to be behind us all. What did you make of his argument. How valid was it in your eyes or what do you feel about the way that he acted acted and how things have transpired since listen i first of all i understand rules and regulations. They all what they are aw and it's not meant for compromise mid for the safety of the sport and saved the players <hes> but there's a different perspective is that athletes are creatures of habit. We don't like change okay. Even the great tom brady we had to change his helmet. He was reluctant to do so because there's a there's a comfortable feeling about it so you just reluctant so i understand what a._b. Is coming from with the helmet situation even riding with that your whole career with pittsburgh steelers dealers and then when you chain helmet manda the facemask different it messes up your vision and so forth so i understand that but listening he wasn't gonna win that battle anyway so it's best just get you behind the camping world. Here's my thing you're the new guy on the oakland raiders it is they gave you thirty million guaranteed dollars. Okay you're the leader of the team any potential counter residual impact from his showing his willingness to act like this that anything that you can foresee being problematic. What what. I think you know this this type but episode by a._b. They definitely listening. You only get one one chance to make a first impression okay. That's that's the thing right out the gate. These guys have been exciting work with you a big party often you. You're the man attraction everyone wants to come see antonio brown and then you had this whole frostbite the helmet gaza unlock home white man what the hell is wrong with this do especially at the story that you hear from week seventeen of god basically quit so listen very managers make you just want you guys in the building so we can win because football's spoiled now like basketball basketball one god can dominate football is dependent on the next man and we need every all hands on d'etre change change the culture and oakland. What kind of year are you expecting him to ha- to have and i'm only asking that question from the standpoint. This isn't mike tomlin coaching. Does jon gruden does is it big ben rothlisberger. Throw them football. It's derek carr. What kind of year a year are you expecting from antonio brown because like you said it ain't basketball where you can dominate one guy dominates. Antonio brown can't do a damn thing if that offensive line don't platform and that quarterback can't get into football. Listen steve now. You gotta understand man. You and you're still fan. That's deals offense has been prolific district for years hard to replicate going to a new team new coach new quarterback that takes years and years of oh stability to be able to put up those type of numbers anyone who thinks that antonio brown is gonna poke type of numbers that he'd been putting up in pittsburgh. I think sadly mistaken yes well. I mean antonio brown is really still be studying. Put up really good really good numbers absolutely but we're talking about a guy that was for six three years. Cuddle cuddled one hundred balls. I mean that's just ridiculous and the way that jon gruden like the play play football. You don't want to run the ball k. That's what he tries to josh jacobs alabama running back in the first round so i think it's gonna take a little step back but he's going to do a lot of opportunities well. The reason why i'm asking that question is because less things are ideal. I'm wondering should there be an elevated level of concern as to how he may act if the team is losing and he ain't getting his numbers well you bring up a good point because think about this evening they the pittsburgh students were in the mix all the way until week seventeen eight quit on them week seventeen imagine if the oakland raiders there see they go off and start off two and five. What are we exploited we to expect from antonio brown in that particular situation ace. He's always had big been in league all align and in a really good receiver opposite of him we we don't know we don't know what the situation would be. You liked the raiders day right here was even e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News did you see the giants and jets going up against each other in their first preseason game against each other. I did yeah i do. What did you peel away from that game. Talk to me about whether it's danielle jones whether it's sam donald whomever what did you peel away from that game. I think i think sam donald is going to be he's going. I think he's trying to make a really big jump ship. I really do i mean listen levy on building even play in that game <hes> but you could see some of the some of the weapons is that <hes> the jets have offense particularly a jamison crowder and slot received came from the washington redskins. He's gonna be he. He's he's gonna help out. Sam donald tremendously tremendously and listen to even in a new system. You just see a air confidence and sam donaldson remember this guy. That was the youngest quarterback to start a season in n._f._l. N._f._l. history this guy's gonna make shoes. Jump this year and listen with daniel jones. He was going against backwards with the jets but i think he's we started to put the rest of the some of the chatter. Everyone was talking about the draft. Like who is this guy. The guy looked confident. He knew how to run the offense if he continues to build upon that what he's going to make things interesting for you <hes> damien woody right here with steven a. e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News is that when you saw because you you're listening to cattleman and it makes no sense to as damien because we've watched eli manning. We think we've seen slippage. We think we've seen disintegration. You listened to the new york giants. Eli man's got plenty of time left. Hey thirty seven years of age. They think he could play a couple of more years. They think he can play at a high level for the next couple of years. Apparently this things the rest of us haven't seen that they drafted dan. You jones one argument. Is that okay. Did they make the right pick by picking him instead of the wayne haskins. The other thing is okay. Suddenly we've transitioned from that to literally asking questions whether or not we should expect to see this guy sooner than later because he might already be good enough to start and basically speed up the exit it or the exodus of eli manning. Where do you fall in line with all of that. Thinking won't listen first of all <hes> the giants blowback alignment and twenty three million this year he's on. He's not going to rob the pond to start off the season but well. Here's what i will say then jones play at some point this year and the reason why the giants defense to me it's going to be one of the one of the worst defense is in the national football league and win. The season starts to go awry for the new job is you can't have number six pick at quarterback sitting on the pine. He's going to play and that's just the reality. It's just reality situations. Having evan is happening to some of the best quarterbacks n._f._l. History and it'll happen to your as well now. Let's get to the cowboys because you see what's happening with ezekiel elliott you you see the news about dak prescott him turn down thirty million thus far correct my memory. I do believe somebody named damien. Woody picked the dallas cowboys to go to the super bowl. Oh this season. You still feeling that way dame you wanna bring up those stuff right. Did it two weeks ago. Why are you bringing also right now because it's what you said two weeks ago. Well you know what i stand. Take my word. I'm still gonna. I'm still stick with him. I think listen jerry jones and jerry jones embellishes all this attention all this all this media media drama. That's why he that's dallas cowboys america's team. That's why the dallas cowboys are worth the most the most worth the most of any sports franchising housing world so he embellish that he'll get this thing worked out and when he does get this thing worked out guess what all has will build debt and the cowboys choice what their roster will be continuing to get to the super bowl like i say i'm not backing off. I p i'm picking them to those who all what do you think jerry jones. When when who do you think jerry jones should take you have firs dak prescott ezekiel elliott. Well listen i if if zeke zeke is taking a cane friendly deal then obviously he's gonna be it's gonna be zeke but from all indications that doesn't sound like the route that zeke is gonna go so you won't take care of the quarterback i i. That's where i think that's where it all starts. I quarterback. Is you know god. That was a fourth round pick. You know he's exceeded expectations by any means by no means my call me my lead he but when you aforethought quarterback nobody expects you to perform the way the dak prescott has a form up to this point okay so you take care to quarterback. This guy's been clean off the field on top was asked him to do so you take care of the quarterback you move from there while i got you getting back to antonio brown. Let me transition to the pittsburgh steelers because you know that's my team. What are your expectations for them. Juju smith schuster is gonna be your number. One james washington who are big ben was critical a little bit of at at one point last year has still showed that at least in one preseason game thus far this year james comma. He showed what he could do gain eleven bell but he's showing that he's he's a better than average leading man <hes> at running back spot and what have you in and obviously the steelers have made efforts to buffer their defense via the draft. <hes> were bush and others of this. What are your thoughts about the steelers for this upcoming season or stephen. I think i've told you i think this. I think the steelers win the a._f._c. north. I know everyone is on the band wagon. The browns oughta trendy thing. They're the shiny new. Call you know everybody wants to. Everybody wants to buy jump in but i'm buying mike tomlin. Mike tomlin has never had a losing record. Just he's been the head coach of the pittsburgh steelers. Mike tomlin is like a blue chip stock. I don't know what freddie kitchens going he's is going to be. I think he's gonna i think he's gonna do okay but nobody knows so with all that being said i'm putting my money on big ben and mike tomlin uh-huh and everything that they have going on within their organization. That's been quite this season to go out there and win the a._f._c. north this year you know how do you feel about cleveland leveland though because i'm looking at cleveland and i'm with you about the steelers you know i am but i'm thinking about cleveland. All of those weapons and myles garrett looks like he's going to be a monster on the defensive side of the ball. He's he's just too fast on the edge. He's gonna make some things happen. <hes> and devin water denzel watering those boys we know what they could do but offensively chubb kareem hunt what will become in the back after his eight game suspension. You got <hes> you know. You know. You got dell beckham junior your guy jarvis landry <hes> you got. You got a joke at the tight danced. You've got some weapons with baker mayfield throwing the football. Why are you what is your reservation about cleveland. When it comes to this division stephen they listen it is hard to break through it takes time and then before last year main cleveland. The browns will perennially a joke. They made a jump last year no question about it. They have a first year head coach. They got a quarterback and baker mason who i think who i think this is going to be a top notch quarterback but he's only going to a second year. They got a lot of shiny pieces but does that necessarily make them a team. They're going to be a team. That's going to be hunted this year not the hunters. It'd be hunted so they're not gonna sleep. Go anyone. Everyone's going to be ready in going to bring their a game against the cleveland browns. The pittsburgh steelers have been there done that they know how to handle this. You know the expectations expectations of being the hunted okay so that's why i'm buying more into the pittsburgh steelers than the cleveland browns right now then we would appreciate you go ahead and due to n._f._l. Live show. We'll be watching this afternoon. Thanks a lot man. Thank you so much. Appreciate you write one and only damien woody right. He was even e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News inundate say e._s._p._n. That's the number of this editing seven to nine three seven six that was straight talk wireless everything less only at walmart. We'll come back with your phone. Call plus. We'll get a little bit more into antonio brown. Ezekiel elliott dak prescott and others wanna talk a little bit about those cleveland browns as well and we just scouting n._f._l. Sam donald dan. You jones these boys in new york city in l._a. Todd gurley his health still a question mark with a lot of people when they're looking at the los angeles rams ain't much about the charges melvin gordon my wanted to get back in the house before you know he doesn't end up getting anything <music> out of that deal all that and more to talk around so stick around don't touch that dial you're listening to the stephen smith show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News oh by the way do you have frequent harper like like the conway stashed everywhere in case it pops up. You know what i mean. You keep some of your bagley. Adesco your car or your nightstand. You have those chalky tablets ready for whenever and wherever harborne strikes listen listen up. There's an easier way to deal with your heartburn. That's problematic o._t._c. Just one day we'll ask the full twenty four hours with zero heartburn so kick you on acid habit. It's possible with priolo take t._c. Uses director fourteen days to treat frequent heartburn. 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News give y'all some insight share with y'all arguments that me and my producers while having living during the break i have several producers three basically jonathan winters text the era <hes> and obviously cap passed a cap past of russian descent wonderful wonderful young lady <hes> but you know what she she tries to. She's tried to hide something. Sometimes he's crazy. I love it. I say that in the fact sheet away nuno texts what these mexican portuguese. I don't know i don't know what he is. He still hasn't told me. I can't figure it out. Okay i know he's smart knows what he's doing and jonathan winthrop well you know he's white guy very nice crazy <hes> but he's absolutely insane and i think that he just says things but he's like the jerry springer of radio for crying some of the stuff that he says steve. I really don't know what you're discounting. The los angeles chargers. I mean they're really stop it. Charges philip rivers is a hell of a quarterback quarterback. I think it's time is coming and sorry just do. I don't blame melvin gordon forgetting mess. Put that back up on the screen but i'll play melvin. Gordon voted out trying to get his money because i don't think he has any leverage. I don't think he'll succeed but i don't blame for wants the money now but i'm just not sold on a charge charge. Don't move me. No you got joy. Both on phil literally asking tom brady. Could you do me a favor able pleases now getting rid of the ball so quickly and just on the sideline during the n._f._c. divisional playoff game. He's great. I mean he's just great what you really. I mean i know it's true but damn 'cause. You're wait until after you lose officially instead of talking like you lost while the game is going on. I'm not sold on the charge. They'll just not. I told y'all before people talking about is you're all l._a. Super bowl last year hale no callie baby. You got to be supremely really talented above everybody else in the sport of football because guess what the road to prosperity they lucky to do all these game was an adult. What did they had to go to philadelphia someplace doors. I don't think the rams went ahead with their business now. Aaron donald is in a classroom studies and another stratosphere. He's all world. He's the real deal but i'm just here to tell you on on an ad. I mean they got talented. Keep to leaving those boys. I know that nicole robbie coleman you famous for pass interference. You got away with but you gotta school by at home in the super bowl not sold on the los angeles teens even though i think the rams got a chance but certainly not to charge i. I don't think the charges are better than kansas city. I don't think they're better than the new england. I don't think they're better than pittsburgh. I really no. I don't think they're better than indy. Peyton manning's news. I'm sorry not peyton manning but andrew luck is in the news use because guess what andrew luck. He's got some leg issues. We thought it was the calf and now jim irsay. The owner for the colts has gone on record talking about. He's got a leg issue a bonus you in his leg rather so we don't know about the health of andrew luck but i would remind y'all this that same age who looked at missed the entire twenty seventeen season came back last year to forty five hundred plus yards second in the league with thirty nine touchdown passes to patrick mahomes fifty fantasy football lovers got him as arguably the number one quarterback that should be taken. You're quiet funchess from carolina. Who's a big target. You got this rookie. What's his then paris coleman or whatever his name is. You got a couple of tight ends. You can lead on and rely upon and offensive line. That's rife with a butts. What's a rough riders. Whose primary job is to protect your well being which they did last year. Your indianapolis colts if you want to. I'm not i think they got shot. I really really do and i want to record. Show that at eight say e._s._p._n. Eight took the other thing about drew brees because see free immediately and i reserved the right to change my mind cause a regular season game even play jet. I reserve the right to change my mind. Let me say this. I look at a drew brees last four games of the regular season last year. It's hard to read this thing. This damn computer like the lights in their something but he completed about sixty nine percent of his passes asses. Now people are talking about drew brees like the last four games of the regular season. He stopped the presses also stephen awful this were drew who breezed the last three games in the last four games that are regular season games in which they went three and one by the way he completed sixty nine percent of his passes sixty thirty nine three touchdowns three interceptions very pedestrian. We get that quarterback. Rating of eighty four lisa jimmy completed sixty nine percent of his passes uh-huh and these people are acting like oh my god stop the president he was in a loss to dallas which shocked the world they lost thirteen to ten at dallas he only completed eighteen to twenty eight passes for one hundred twenty seven yards the last three weeks against tampa carolina pittsburgh games in which they want he threw for two hundred two hundred and three or three hundred twenty six yards he completed seventy seven sixty five hundred sixty nine percent of his passes and that's everybody's definition jeff initiative a guy that tailed off in the last quarter of the season. Y'all smoke something yala just simply smoking something. This is drew brees. We talk about here now. We're going to sit up there and put them above amer rogers that <hes> had no but show some respect this time michael thomas. They still got alvin kamara. They still got drew brees. They still got ashley payton. They still play their games at the superdome mercedes benz dome. What's the problem if you all these can have a successful sessile regular season and get home field advantage again. I think they're going to the super bowl. I think philly's a threat dallas threat kid dismissed chicago chicago with that defense and in fact that magnates determined to find a field goal kicking out can't ignore atlanta with that high powered offense mohamed sanu who julio jones cavern really matt ryan under the football and devante freeman back they damn well better have a high powered offense and you don't expect eight guys ended up on i our list at the end of the season like they did last year in atlanta seattle seattle. We're russell wilson. They give them thirty five million a year for reason but all leads certainly look like they should be one of the favorites. That's just me and at eight say e._s._p._n. It's edited two nine three seven seven sixty. Listen live to the stephen. A smith show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News ryan talked to me stephen. I absolutely do not think that the cowboys should buckle on zeke because running back is the most replaceable position football and don't all kinds of wrong. I understand how great he is but if you look at the past couple of years let beyond bell has great numbers two years ago sits out of the season james connor puts itself very good numbers on a team with a good line and a good wide receiver. You look if you look at the los angeles rams. Todd gurley has a great teasing. He gets banged end up t._k. Anderson kerry team through the playoffs now. If amari cooper wasn't in dallas i say break the bank for for zeke but now that amari cooper is is there. They got a great line now. They got a wide receiver that demand respect. I do not think that dallas should break the bank on. You're ready for this. I think i got it even better argument for your appoint than you do. Are you ready for this sure running backs the last time a leading russia want super bowl. Who was that i no. I wasn't it wasn't it was terrell davis for denver nine hundred ninety eight. Wow okay for that other than that. Adrian peterson listen ladainian tomlinson <hes> the list goes on and on of guys who ran the football exceptionally well even god's going back to the priest holmes homes of the world. We kansas city and stuff. You have leading russia's all over the place. It never manufacturers itself until super bowl. Usually it's the quarterback that does it for you and that's another reason why you take care back before you take ezekiel elliott and i would agree that you have to sign zeke. If that team wasn't built the way it was built with that offensive line. Now you gotta true number one receiver. You don't need a guy cowan to be effective in that backfield because the rest of the team is so good <hes> uh-huh. I got you appreciate the call. Thank you so much and it eight say e._s._p._n. Editing seven to nine three seven seven cents back with more of your calls in a minute plus. I'll transition to some n._c._w._a. Z aa talk as well and our number to get that rich paul rule aged for lebron james c._e._o. Of found of club sports are obviously lebron. James wanna n._c._w._a. Came down with a ruling <hes> last week talking about it would be required that certified agents have a four year degree <hes> before being able to go after some of these collegiate athletes. <hes> rich paul spoke out against it. Lebron james spoke out against it because he thought it was a direct sold against this guy. Rich paul will n._c._w._a. Turned around modified that rule <hes> omitted the requirement of needing a bachelor's degree in order to be certified agent. You just need to be in a good standing with the national basketball players association so we'll get into all of that as the show progresses today stick around listen live to the stephen a smith show e._s._p._n. Radio is news right wave. You missed any of my opening segment. Go check it out on demand and the stephen smith podcast brought to you by the capital one quicksilver card earning unlimited one and a half percent cashback on on every single purchase everywhere. Hey what's in your wallet ouch. That's third travel of the night. Normally i get on this case for being a complete numskull but tonight. I'm chilling stephen. What's gotten into you. I know usually i'd be off a rat right now but i gotta tell you this. Vivid seats thing has got me. Completely changed is one hundred percent authentic and i got these great seats yesterday on the vivid seats at stress-free wait. What are you doing. You put mayo hotdog. What's the matter with you. 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News some news the national football league an jay z team up on music and social justice campaign in pain so article in the new york times. I read you the first couple of graphs looking pass more than two years of national uproar which started with football players began to kneel during the national l. anthem the n._f._l. Has sealed the deal has signed a deal with the rap star in presario jay z to gain a foothold in the music business and get a seal of approval for one of the the country's biggest african american celebrities for its social justice efforts deal with roc nation the wraps entertainment and sports company calls for the firm to beat the n._f._l.'s. N._f._l.'s live music entertainment strategist a role that will see rock nation and jay z consulting on entertainment including the super bowl halftime. I'm show and contributing to the league's activism campaign inspire change the n._f._l. Is keen to portray rock nation deal as a way to bring more high profile entertainers is to its events it also represents an effort to quite a long-running controversy over its handling of players kneeling or sitting during the national anthem most notably by colin cabinet the former san for cisco forty nine at quarterback and to form a bond with this most vigilant an influential critics the n._f._l. Has great big platform and it has to be all inclusive jay z. said in an interview this week they were willing to do some things to make some changes that we can do some good and quote rot nation in the n._f._l. Is set to announce the deal tomorrow. Financial terms were not disclosed. Love it love it. Love it on the best halftime shows. I think the best halftime show i've ever seen in my life was beyond say and bruno mars and coldplay throwing down bruno mars turned it out years ago when denver got romped romped by seattle but he after would coldplay bruno mars and beyond say was something spectacular beautiful beautiful thing entertainment. We're we're consulting from from jay z. Please can't can't get no better than that but i will ask this question from everybody not gene but anybody. When is somebody going to mandate while everybody's making all of these deals that colin cabinet gets cia beginning the national football league after all even the president said if he can still play let him play so what's the problem our number two necks.

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"When, deciding how and when to safely return to the workplace you need to be informed. That's why IBM Watson helps. You prioritize employee safety with Watson works a set of a infused capabilities. Let's put smart to work visit IBM dot. com slash. Watson works to learn more hello and welcome NFL live with Wyan Clark Jeff Darlington and Mister Monday night. Louis Riddick. I'm Dan Grazziano, and we start in New England where according to our Adam Schefter Patriots quarterback Jarret. STIDHAM was taken to a local hospital Thursday for precautionary tests on his upper leg. Those tests came back negative instead went through practice Friday albeit with a lighter load than usual. Here's what Bill Belichick had to on what it's been like without Tom, Brady so far. It's. Professional football, it's the national football league. Every team has changes every year we have them. So does everybody else and? Right, now everybody's focused on this year on. We're looking ahead. We're not looking backwards at anything. He's definitely a former MVP for a reason. I. Mean The guys the professionally works as tail off. he's he's. Extremely Dynamic and. He's just he's got a personality that he's he's got a charming personality. It's it's It's been fun to be around and. You know it's Something out you gotta confidence about him that. All quarterbacks have confidence, but it's just a little different with Cam and you know it's a vibe that you can. You can. That that, that can fuel you and get you in a mindset. you know. So it's it's been fun. First Time in a long time quarterback competition in New England. You saw a lot of Cam Newton there. We talked about jared stood him and his leg, of course, Brian Hoyer, the longtime backup there, and they've been splitting Reps. so Lewis in your opinion does bill belichick need to name a starting quarterback sooner rather than later or can this can this linger while? I don't think he needs to do anything. Dan other than discontinue on the path that he's on, which is ultimately leading the best player play in the player that proves that he can wind up executing the offense at a high level and giving their team the best chance to win and I know that sounds like coaches speak. But that's what bill lives by. That's how he's GonNa continue to conduct this entire quarterback competition and I think that's what he should continue to do I. Don't think he needs to name a started right now at all I mean because we don't know where Cam at as far as understanding. How much of the playbook that he understands at this point in time and whether or not this the best for the football team or is it best for Brian Hoyer to be in there right now with the number one or if it's best for Jarrett's Stidham on be in there quite honestly with the number one but I will say this, it sounds like if jared is going to be limited in the near future for you know prolonged duration then this really becomes a one person race quite honestly I mean this is cam job to lose. It's just a matter of when does he get comfortable enough for bill to go ahead and say That's our guy I think that's what it's coming down to if jared can't get back out there in a meaningful way. Obviously, we can't make bill belichick make a decision I mean frigging Bill Belichick he could do whatever he wants to do and I think what helps them is good. Don't get to see these guys on the field. There are no preseason games, and so we don't get to see maybe cam take some bad snaps or Jarret Stidham. So Bill Belichick can't take time. Let these guys go through the process C., which is vibe best and get the better with the offense and with the office staff I think this is exactly the type of situation. Bill Belichick wants to be where he doesn't have to give things to the media. We already know he's not going to lie to US anyway, and he can focus on his team and solely his team. So when Bill Belichick is ready to go for with decision I believe he will do that. But I agree with Louis that this Cam Newton's job to lose and when you hear guys speak of camps personality and that way that means the debt to like they like him they enjoys energy and it's a little different from town which renewed. Their this is also weird to me. It just feels very four and everything that's happening when we talk about a quarterback competition in New England and for some reason like the whole Tom Breeding Gronk thing in Tampa feels like much easier to digest which surprises me everything that's happening in New England on the other hand it just feels this reared foreign vibe where we're talking about Cam Newton Patriots Jersey competing with jared system who we really honestly does anybody know anything about him so it's just so hard to even digest the idea of bill making a decision when this whole concept whether it be. In general whether it be Cam Newton playing in New England or whether it be bill belichick deciding to different quarterbacks just feel so awkward. So I'm just here for it I'm just here for the show and to see what happens but I don't know. Bill Belichick in this situation Patriots of course, in this situation, because Tom Brady elected to leave and signed with the Tampa. Bay. buccaneers leaving a team that has won its division eleven years in a row for one that hasn't made the playoffs. Two, thousand seven. So down in Tampa Brady got a little bit of a day off from practice but he was cheering his teammates on in drills from the sideline today. Here is Tampa coach Bruce Arians on how Brady is helping the bucks improve on both sides of the ball. He I think Tom's made them better way that You know he's making them cover every zone and and be very, very honest. You can't cheat. He'll find it and you he gets the ball of clay. So Same thing we're going to see those first two ballgames withdrew and Teddy Bob's coming out and they know where it's going. So it's it's been a real good for them to see but Yeah I think the National Football League Gosh. Twenty years ago started turning towards being offensive league and Each year there's more and more. Emphasis, on not allowing contact on receivers and stuff. So. It is what it is. Fans won't see points. Jeff Darlington you're pretty plugged in on Tom Brady's camp. How much. The New England style Tom Brady is bringing with him to Tampa. So, interesting this this idea of Tom Brady having this impact on Tampa because we talk all the time about Oh Tampa in Tom that feels like a very relaxed by for Tom almost like this semi retirement. But what's going to be especially interesting and I do remember having this conversation with some people that know Tom like what happens when Tom Brady gets into this system that is by the way far more relaxed like Bruce Arians practices his days are generally over for. His players by like two PM it's different beast than it was in New England. So when Tom Starts to get into that, does he start to say we got to be a little bit more militant does he start to feel like he needs to impose things that he learned from Bill Bella Belichick onto his new team and I think there will be some of that and I think the bucks will be better off as a result and I I can just tell you. A quick story for you or three was telling me one time about Tom Brady, governor joint practice, and and rg three said it was so interesting to see the way Bill Bell ran a practice because guys ran over got down on a need like it was a militant situation like everything was so structured and so perfect that it caught another team off guard when they saw the Patriots doing it, it'll be very interesting to see how tom is able to impose some of the things that he learned over the last twenty years on this squad. Obviously a lot of eyes on this situation how Tom Brady Will Mesh with Bruce Arians in this new situation Lewis when you look at the Buchan ears and Tom Brady this season, what are realistic expectations for what they can accomplish That I think the buccaneers obviously double digit wins is realistic I think challenge in the NFC. South is realistic and then for in overall I think being a contender for the NFC title is realistic now whether or not they can win that division whether or not. They can actually pull it off and not get caught behind meeting a slow start and be strong at the end of the year and be able to beat some of the heavyweights in the NFC that remains to be seen for Tom Brady. Look it sounds like Bruce's already struck A. Chord with Tom in terms of he's kind of things I'd like to do from an offensive standpoint what hear things that you're comfortable doing and it sounds like they have found a happy place. So to speak, it's right. One thing that Tom has always been known for right is getting the ball out quick, right. So in Bruce's already saying, you look our defenses already seen how he gets the ball quick and that's going to help them when we play drew drew brees and Teddy. Bridgewater. So it sounds like he's already in a nice little group. So for Tom what does that mean for him I wouldn't be shocked to see him throw for four thousand yards, thirty touchdowns, sixty, seven, sixty, eight. percent completion percentage eight yards per attempt that of season we're sitting there going them. He didn't miss a beat because he seems like he's already in a nice group white novel not have have an all season and having a condensed training camp which speaks to just how special this man is. Tom Brady Yeah I. Mean When you look at Tom Brady Yeah, you look at Tom Brady like this surprises me it was pretty cool. There's two of the things that you guys we're talking about. I was the part of I was in that same camp with rg three when they got to see or when we got to see Tom Brady. Detail that Bill Belichick was about the tied the way that team took the field before us they took it as the team. There were certain ways that they warm up that they did as a team. They also cooled down as a team. It was a very different feel and listen. It's not to say that that's the always the right way to do. It for everyone with that's the Patriot Way and then you talk about Bruce Areas saying that Tom Brady gets the ball out of his hands quickly I want to thank back has Bruce Arians ever coach to quarterback that got the ball out of his hands quickly. No right I play with. Bruce when we were in Pittsburgh and we held onto the ball got. The ball down the field. So so so so what I'm saying is what I love about. It is right now we know what type of coach Bruce Areas is, but he's already seeing that Tom Brady is getting the ball out of his hands quickly I practiced with. Let's me know Tom. Brady has his imprint on this Bruce Arians Byron left which off off it and that is amazing that means there's a compromise that means this is what Tom Brady said is we're going to do this together this is something Bruce Areas buyer left which and Tom Brady For the Tampa Bay buccaneers and I think the sky's the limit for this team they'll challenge for the NFC south will be a playoff team and when they get into playoff who is going to count a gets or WHO's going to go against what Tom Brady do. I know. One thing is we've never talked about the buccaneers more in an offseason NFL live. Then we have this year and I expect this is going to continue into the season and it's all because of Tom. Brady. Moving on to a more serious story last night Washington head coach Ron Rivera told our Adam schefter that he's been diagnosed with what he called lymph node cancer after a self check. Rivera shared the news with his team Thursday night, and he says, the cancer is in the stages considered very treatable and curable he plans to start treatment shortly. Rivera had this to say about his diagnosis I was stunned but I was angry because I feel like I'm in the best health I've been in I felt a lump in my neck saw the team doctor took a look and this is the result as for his plans for this upcoming season. Rivera said I'm planning to go on coaching doctors encouraged me to do it too. They said if you feel strongly. Don't slowdown do your physical activities but everyone keeps telling me by week three or four. You'll start feeling it and then what I don't know we'll see. Players. Coaches and teams took to social media to show an outpouring of support for Rivera and sending him love and well wishes his current team wrote we love you riverboat Ron. Hce. We're all with you Stephanie Christopher and Courtney of course, referring there to his wife and children former panthers tight end Greg Olsen played for Rivera and Carolina. So we love you coach. You have so many people in your corner. You always looked out for us now it's our turn. Former cowboys wide receiver Dez, Bryant whom you may remember from the two thousand seventeen season how to try out with the Ravens yesterday but left as he often does without a deal according to Jamieson Hensley it's possible. The Ravens could add Bryant at some point but nothing is imminent with the three time pro bowl remember Bryant's last appearance in an NFL game was week seventeen of the two thousand seventeen season when Lamar Jackson was still at Louisville, Dez Bryant and Antonio Brown both entered the League in two, thousand, ten they're. The only receivers in the NFL. To record seventy plus touchdown receptions over the last decade. But Bryant hasn't played as we mentioned since twenty seventeen and Antonio Brown played just one game. Last season is currently facing an eight game suspension to start this season but we are on the topic of veteran receivers have been incredibly productive in the past and could potentially help a team that's looking for wide receiver. So Ryan Clark if Dez is out of the mix and Baltimore should the Ravens seriously consider taking shot on Antonio Brown. Absolutely listen I shocked myself because I came up in the off season I was like no way. You don't bring him into a locker room. The has so much cohesiveness where the such a family chemistry and then I started thinking wait you don't have to miss eight games when he was in. New. England all the teammate seem to love him Lamar Jackson from the bottom to from Miami from the bottom of Florida. He has his cousin already they're Hollywood Brown. This is. Perfect and the reason you bring Tony Ronin over Dez Bryant is because he's not just the guy if you bring Antonio Brown now you've gotten prolific outside the numbers and where does Lamar Jackson struggle the most outside of the numbers but when you bring it Tony O'Brien into your own, you have to understand who he is. Now he has to also understand who he is his back against the wall. He doesn't get another opportunity and when you have a strong head coach. Coach Harbaugh when you have a great organization like the Baltimore Ravens and a young star quarterback who you are ready get along with this sounds like the spot for me and if the Baltimore Ravens want to compete in the playoffs against the Kansas City chiefs against the Pittsburgh steelers against the Houston Texans, I believe that adding Antonio Brown after his eight game suspension is the way to go. You get a prolific player who has to understand that he needs to total lie. Lewis when you look at Lamar Jackson Paul Smell. Is. Already had place. Yeah you know it's interesting. You know what I it's wasn't. The thing about the thing about it with Baltimore's this is they have the luxury of time. Right? So they can't get him until after week eight anyway. So I think they're going to find out whether or not they need them and I think they actually had the potential that some people on their roster that they're already setup for success is that everybody needs to take another step forward including Including Lamar Jackson now, thinking about Miles Boykin is a tremendous tremendous prospect mark. He's Brown has put on weight this off season. He says, he feels stronger and top of being one of the fastest players in the NFL draft do rene out of Texas. Who is one of the fastest players in the NCAA last year the play in the Slot Mark Andrews, one of the best pass catching tight ends in the NFL they've got two running backs now in Mark Ingram, and then they draft take jobs out of Ohio state. So look they're loaded, they've got plenty of weapons now it's not like Baltimore is hurting, and then Lamar has to take the next step. He has to prove the people this when I. Don't have the benefit of play action, pass those sleep on me. I will still cut you up from the pocket although I led. The NFL in touchdown passes from the pocket last already, but you still believe in me. So I'm GonNa Take My gain twenty another level and on top of it I can still run better than most running backs in the. NFL Anyway. So I think there's still set up for success and I think they have the luxury of time. This is see what happens through these first eight games if they're hitting on all cylinders and all these players are coming along, why would you take the chance for someone who has proven time and time again that when the rubber meets the road? He cares about himself more so than he cared about anyone else, why would you risk that? Now if it comes if it turns out that they're not doing anything in the passing game and they feel like they're going to still be at a deficit to the top teams nasty and you consider it. lewes interesting use the word risk there and Antonio Brown. Honestly might be the greatest risk reward in NFL history. I can't think of a player who provides so much potential upside on the field, but but but comes with so much potential questions off of it when you bring them into your locker room and we've seen it with the past three teams that he's been signed on. But ultimately to your point, there will be eight weeks of an assessment and I don't know if it's just me maybe I'm. Not Checking instagram's as much or something but. It feels like AP's a little quieter lately and I don't know what's going on there. I think that's something that we should be watching I know that sounds stupid and ridiculous. But like is that not what we want to see out of ABC it's not just A. Group it's not stupid or ridiculous at all. I mean, this is not stupid ridiculous at all right now be wondering exactly where's he at in his head? Where's he at as far as his approach to win eventually or hopefully he does get signed I don't think it's super ridiculous to wonder about that at all because he proven this, he is proven time and time again proved in Pittsburgh Bruins it. In Oakland the New England that he will say the right things before he gets there, and then once he gets there no matter what structure you provide him he will blow it all up and do what he wants to do for him and that's not people don't come back at me saying well, you know what you're just being a hater give the man. Three organizations have given him a chance and I'll tell you this if I was sitting there pool that's pulling. These teams and I was in charge of personnel I'd be frustrated as heck right now, I'd be frustrated because I'm sitting there thinking, Lou this guy is legit and I don't know if I can trust them. Listen. You know you had to come out and defend me against attacks from Abe when I said all the things I said before this started to get out. So what I do know about Ab even when I was in that locker room and I had these feelings about him and I was telling people, you gotTa watch him you know I mean this could turn in to something very huge or very big that tears your team apart if you don't get a hold of it he. was able to hold it together that loan he held it together. So long that I was wrong that when I came out on TV these things about him everybody got mad at me. So all I'm saying is in right you got eight weeks to check out what you have. If you're the Baltimore Ravens and when you with Jeff Darling says, what is a be doing? Isn't that a good thing right that you actually have to ask what he's doing because usually I could just flip. Right or turn on a police scanner and I know what he's doing. Finally. That's not where he is. The only thing we know is he worked Lamar this off season he worked Russell. Wilson is all season and they both love him. If Abe, continues to do these things away from the field and like you said, Lou as an evaluator as an executive, you say, you know what we need one more piece to get over in the playoffs I. think that's a guy you tried aside. If you sign Antonio Brown right now, he could report your training camp, but then he would be suspended as of week one of the regular season through week. So we'll obviously keep an eye on that. Speaking of receivers but one who actually is on an NFL team tyreek hill of the Kansas City chiefs left practice early Thursday after injuring his right hamstring and he did not practice today. He'll had just caught a long pass and a drill when he pulled up with the injury conferred chief medical personnel then headed unaccompanied to the locker room. Here's chiefs head coach. Andy. Reid. tyreek It's a day to day. He It's not. A big territory that it's it's just a but it'll be a few days. We'll just would ease him back in and he got he got great work here the first part. Of Camps. Some. Big names have already suffered injuries in training camp including browns running back nick shove and broncos outside Linebacker von. Miller. Cowboys had to release Gerald, McCoy via an injury waiver after he ruptured his quadriceps tendon, of course, tyreek hill, we already mentioned our about three and a half weeks into training camp and you see a lot of those kinds of soft tissue injuries that coaches always fear cowboys camp rolls on under new head coach Mike McCarthy the cowboys have all kinds of big names on offense Dak, Prescott, Ezekiel Elliott Amari Cooper and rookie cd cd-rom lamb, which means the expectations are high in Dallas McCarthy. made it clear where he wants to be come February. I think conversation like that. Frankly respectfully. Nonsense if you're not trying to win the Super Bowl, I don't know what the what you're even doing in this business i. think that's what every team starts through off season with the ones that don't WanNa talk about it. They're you know they're. Probably trying to under promise over achieve, I've always been very up front about it. Every team I've ever coached. We're in this to win a championship make no bones with. That Prescott Steer Amari Cooper stare CD LLAMAS THERE, zeke offense align is intact. The defense is solid and when you got a new voice in a new coach and situations. You get over the Hump. So I don't see anything wrong with him saying their goal is win the Super Bowl. Ryan not to bring up a subject but Mike. McCarthy. Has won the Super Bowl. He knows what it takes and it's not just something you can say. Expect to have happened. So you hear say this and I mean is crazy or is this realistic expectation for this team? I said I didn't. Listen I. It's not necessarily about being realistic, but it's true right. There's only super bowl of bus for everybody only one team gets to walk off the field at the end of the season saying they won the very last game of the season in February, and that's the super bowl champion everybody else's a failure period that's how it works. So I, love the fact that he's stepping in saying this. Now when you listen to keyshawn he talks about the pieces that. They have on this team can they do it like to me is this team ahead of the Minnesota Vikings, is this team ahead of the Seattle seahawks the San Francisco Forty niners. The new. Orleans saints the Tampa Bay buccaneers. No is this team to me even the runaway favorite in NFC EAST OVER THE PHILADELPHIA. Eagles not. So they have a lot of work to do and I'm tired of every year US looking at a piece of paper and saying. Voice paid him. The Dallas cowboys made him. The Dallas Cowboys paid him. The Dallas cowboys will go to win the Super Bowl. The thing is for the last quarter. Every time we've said that we have been wrong and so right now the Dallas cowboys have to get together Mike McCarthy has to figure out how to make this team play better in situation no moments and he could say super bowl or bus but he changes things like when Jaycee Garrett hundred million dollar wide receiver Amari Cooper sitting next to him or standing next to him turning away. On a fourth down and must have it against Philadelphia. This team can't win. So Mike McCarthy isn't here to make the offense better. He's here to make the team better, and that's the only way. They even have a chance to play for Super Bowl. Ryan, you make some great points. Look you know better than anyone you bet on the super bowl winning teams and you were also a part of the teams that we had in Washington that money spent does not equal success on the field they're not synonymous. You're not one of those types of things that automatically equate to one another and and so let's Do this especially with this football team in particular Oh that. But that doesn't take away the fact that they have some very nice pieces. They really do as far as a group of three wide receivers between Gallup Cooper and CD I mean, look that's legit grew from there and the Zeke is legit player deck right now is trying to set himself up absolutely take Dallas out behind the woodshed as far as his contract is concerned come January. And that's what he's playing for. So there's some very motivated people on top of it, but the fact of the matter remains this were coming off of the most unique off season that we've ever had the most unique and condense training camp that we've ever had in my in recent memory or anything that I can remember. So we don't even know how this team is going to look when weak one they line up. We have no idea even. Going to look but we do know some of these other teams in the NFC that have some continuity namely, Philadelphia Eagles how potentially we know reasonably well, how they're gonNA look even more. So than Dallas, because they have continuity. So all the teams that have some familiarity with one another those are the teams that we should really be talking about a super bowl contenders because everyone else that has this uncertainty surrounding them on top of the pandemic and. All the uncertainties running all season. Yeah. It's cool to talk about but I think it's unrealistic to really think that that could happen over either unrealistic. They're gonNA come out of the gate fast at least let's put it that way but Dell's has some nice pieces but let's just see what happens with them because they're right now they're an x factor. It's a total unknown as the how Mike McCarthy is really affecting this football team until we see. Actually bullish on the boys but one quick point to get into the playoffs in the NFC. At this point, they pretty much have to win their division because the saints, the bucks, the Seahawks, the forty niners. Two of those teams are GONNA wind up getting a couple wildcard so like it's going to be really difficult to even make the dance, you don't win the division with Eagles in there I really like what the cowboys are doing that doesn't mean this is going to be easy at all. Team that had the second best record. The NFC last year was the packers They they surprise some people when they took quarterback Jordan love in the first round of the draft. Back in April. There they are there the packers during love Aaron. Rodgers. Those two are finally together on the practice field riders could be seen tutoring love on Thursday after the rookie missed throw during a drill is teaching them how to hit the hit the part of the net, the ball supposed to go into, and then of course, Rogers had to go ahead and nail the throw himself. Here's love on what it's like being around Aaron Rodgers. Those great for me. Just with sit there be in the same room as him. And just hear how he thinks about plays God practice in Washington. Put together it's. Just, really. Awesome for me. Be Able to see taking, evaluate him, evaluate myself and to try to. Do. My best job to learn by watching you're so. It's been really good though I mean I said he's a great person. And able to help me. In the quarterback room on certain things. Louis nut I on the packers took a quarterback in the first round when they already had a really good one that's their longterm philosophy. But in the short term, do you think they will regret not adding more firepower to that offense this off season I think that's that's a reasonable expectation Dan because. They need someone else on the outside. Again, we talk about inside the numbers outside the numbers all the time, but they need somebody else to complement Devante Adam, because you can take out one guy. But if you have to who outside the numbers whether it be the X. Split Z., the flanker if you have to that can really threaten the team at the third level defense. Now, you've got a problem and they didn't have anybody that they can count on in that way. So I think there's GonNa come a time we're in the short term Brian good against the GM's go. Why didn't I do something about that other than draft AJ Dylan out of Boston who's a fine running back but they already have somebody in Aaron. Jones, why didn't I do that I? Hope it doesn't I hope it doesn't come to that because you don't Wanna see Aaron Rodgers have potentially his last year in Green Bay squandered away because they don't have enough weapons. I have a sneaking suspicion. They are going to regret it a little bit at some point. Packers. Of course, not the only team that took a quarterback in the first round the team of the number one pick did it and he's a guy who's GonNa play for that would be Joe Borough. Out of LSU, coming off one of the finer seasons in college football history, and this is it not a Photoshop Bengal fans here is Joe Borough, the number one pick in a bengals uniform from team picture day today, and it wasn't just today to take pictures for Joe Boroughs to throw the football around the practice field. He was nine out of ten passing for one hundred, one yards and two touchdowns in his first two drives of practice today according to the pool report. He finished the day thirteen out of nineteen, passing for two touchdowns including action in the teams situational drills. So borough were good, right? He's all set Ryan Clark. Nah because last I, checked he was playing against the bengals defense to wasn't he? With a different difference. To saying we need. Asking, just asking. I'm excited. I'm excited for job I. Really Am I, think he's a guy who was ahead of what many other rookies would be one because of his age because of experience and also having an opportunity to play on the job Brady who is now the office coordinator of the Carolina. Panthers. He understands how to be prepared but let's not just blow this up guys. He's been practicing the same defense getting the same coaches in the same looks every day and also the last time I checked they don't let you hit the number one overall pick at practice. It's a pretty comfortable environment not to say. Come to say that Joe Borough can't play well, but let's pope are breaks a little bit. Though the alternative is down South Africa. Everybody, everybody down here in south Florida was freaking out today because to through a couple of incomplete passes. So it's better than the alternative I'm not saying there's anything wrong with to. Die Looking decent in practice is better than the alternative is. We all know how? Team. Super Bowl hopes are tied to quarterback performance in the first week of padded practices. All right that telling me, we got to be done by five someone I'm GonNa put you guys on the clock with Camp Question Marks. Let's start in Chicago with the bears. The addition of Nick foles put added pressure on Mitchell trubisky and head coach Matt. Nagy said earlier this off season being open competition between the two signal callers. Here's negative. So in regards to nick what you see and feel with those guys that are relationship grown each day is. Nick has been in a lot of different experiences. You've seen a lot of different defenses. He's been you know in regards to Plano Super Bowl and win super bowl. So the experiences that he'd has defenses that he seen. He's taken all of that that he's learned from and given that to Mitch in today's Day and age sometimes it's rare. You see people that are very. Selfish. And people that want to do what's best for them, and we'll be vindictive and militia and how they do it. That's not who he is. Louis I got my stop watch thirty seconds on the clock who has the edge for the bears quarterback competition go. The Guy who's given out the information to the other guy. So that's mixed bowls the quarterback competition and he didn't go there just to nick. You didn't go there just to try and get him over the oft. Nick has some things that he still wants proving Jacksonville basically gave up on his regarding mentioned and they said, you know what we're going to go with the younger guys won a super bowl who put football team on his back following Carson Wentz his injury, a couple of years ago and won the superbowl. So nick can play. He just needs to stay on the football field and needs to execute for the duration of a sixteen game seasons Matt Nagy. Dan Graziano. He got him for raise it not bad. I got thirty five seconds. That are not thought you do I gotta be honest to New Orleans? Where drew brees the saints are looking to avoid the playoff heartbreak. This season finally make it to that super bowl when healthy running back Alvin Kamara is a key piece of the offense wasn't healthy last year. Here's what he had to say about how he feels this season. You. Click. Your last time about get getting back and and being healthy a just curious looking at your your numbers from last year. In had like a bunch of a big chunk plays in the passing game. To kind of chuck that up to hurt her you think that was something else for you. Heard. A Allen J. D. just referenced that Joel Thomas. said. How good you look out there that he he thinks you're back here during pulse being full south You agree with that Good. Kamara would crush this thirty second exercise clearly Ryan thirty seconds on the clock. Do you expect a bounceback season from Alvin Kamara? Well, first of all, we know now that marked was the reason that those dual combo kind of interviews with great after the after the game because there wasn't Alvin Kamara but I expect him to be back the a huge part of this passing because he was supposed to take that step with mark, Ingram, went to the Baltimore Ravens. So now healthy drew knows he can rely on him. I spent a big bounce back when Kamara. Coming in at twenty. Four seconds. Ryan Clark. Given. Time. Got To love it to Houston or does Shawn Watson in the Texas enter this season with a bit. At that didn't even know it's still going for the big hole to fill at the receiver position after they traded D. Andre. Agassi to the cardinals here's Watson on what he hopes to accomplish in his fourth year in the NFL. I'm trying to fully victory I want to stay championship won a national championship. So of course, I'm trying to get a a a super bowl I mean I'm trying to. Of course be legendary. That's my word since college and for me to be that, you know I have to win the Super Bowl and definitely win. The Houston tests we never want want me here before we even came on the brim of winning want we gotta get to that game before that and then we can think about that but Yeah I'm trying to create history continue that and and make it a dynasty. Jeff in thirty seconds. What's the status of contract extension talks between the Shawn Watson and the Texas? Cooler told Brian continues to say that they're working very hard to get this contract on with the Shawn Watson won't get into more detail than that and that's a good thing. At this point, we don't WanNa see it go down the road that it went with Dak Prescott in the cowboys where it felt like you were hearing the weekend cowboys and find out what exactly was going on. You want to style the Patrick Mahomes, the chiefs there's one day default here lap that Shawn Watson is very richmond and that is exactly what he should be. Darlington Wins Twenty three point, four one seconds very, very impressive. Watson the only player in NFL history with twenty five touchdown passes and five rushing touchdowns in consecutive seasons. So special player that Houston definitely wants to keep turn up the volume for the sounds of the week. Hello Hello. Not Everybody wants. 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Possible late entry for sounds of the week raiders owner Mark Davis, addressing his team today at Allegiance Stadium and saying. Welcome to the death star where our opponents dreams come to die Monday night football heading to Vegas in week to say. Of that. Big congratulations to our friend. Louis Riddick who announced earlier. This week will be joining the Monday night football booth with Steve Levy and Bryan Greasy Louis. We started NFL insider seven years ago I'd never met you before and I don't know who's got. I said, it'll be fun to work with him. He looks like he knows what he's doing and obviously Do break a leg my. Awesome. Appreciate it man appreciate it I know I know Clarke and Darlington or sitting there. Then we just go through this this morning. JEEZ That's okay. Fro around the horn is neck. Thanks for watching it.

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