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Porsche 917: The greatest racing car?

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Porsche 917: The greatest racing car?

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Lexus for important these offer and pricing details about all customers will qualify offer valid alexis eastern area only and in september third twenty nine thousand nine hundred and it's also spoke podcast. We tell the story of the porsche nine one seven. What are the greatest racing costs multiple history nine. One seven is one of the most iconic a conic racing cars in history and it's fifty this year and this week's autosport magazine available now has the seven on the cover asked the question. Is it the greatest racing in-car ever and also so content multiple articles in there about the <hes> about nine one seven so we're also going to have a bit of a chat about two on the podcast. I'm your host edge joining joining me. I is kevin turner editor of autosport. Now we should say. I feel like your whole life has been building to this issue of also spoke because we should say you. You'll not an ins tali unbiased witness when it comes to this. I think anybody looks at your your twitter handle. Which is i believe is at coyote nine one seven now now i can i do try and be as objective as possible whereas you know with all these sorts of lists and debates and things but i've yes. I probably should be full disclosure. I was fortunate enough after have lots of old old sport and multiple magazines <hes> my dad had when i was a kid rich sort of backwards so from from from from contemporary and then back in time mm-hmm and nine hundred seventy seven two hundred really imagine 'cause kook sounded amazing so yeah since i was a kid seven has been sort of one of the cars really so yes. I've read many books many many articles culminating in this week magazine. I'm a little bit concerned. You haven't come into the clipboard with lots of bits of paper and you'll normalistion molested only coming into podcast. You are massively well armed on so to thinking if can't get through a non seven podcast just off the top of my head. They're probably why we gotta do any podcast to have their off the top of my head fair enough well. We'll we'll consider you well-prepared having built for this year in highlife also joined by matt keough another easiest to we should say for historic racing and a relatively young as well still <hes> citing compared to myself and calf so it's always good to have the next generation of historic enthusiasts. We'll see over relationship with seven show. I cup in person but obviously watched. There's probably got into it through the the steve mcqueen film which may or may not want to talk about. I would say it's <hes> we're going to throw it out these cliches next hour say but it's iconic you know it starts i in historic racing <hes> monetary twenty-three rare opportunity to see them but it's a it's a fantastic car. I <music>. I should also add captain say without giving away too much. Personal information has nine one seven in his phone number. That's a fluke. That's a happy fluke. It is my favorite causes a four three win susa his pin number as well. That's not true we should probably talk talk about too much about people's numbers unless you want people find you disagree with you extensive because of buts well probably happen anyway but it is i guess is a good place starchy the the iconic status of this car and actually the film them on the steve mcqueen film probably is a big part of that is because i know in my mind the gulf nine one one seven wins lemond but of course it didn't that whereas it feels like it because the film in the gabler les right yeah yes much to john was dismay in the gulf. <hes> w team boss he didn't win either year that iran the no one seven and their second in nine seventy-one nineteen seventy-one atrocious right cars crashing and blowing up and they're any seven classified finishes. None of them were gulf nomin seven so yeah the film role the skews <hes> but also the film's got space where they they push it up with hard on the throttle going faster in a straight line. I mean come on. It's the legend of the car. It's also as a film enthusiast i would argue. It's without really love it. It's not actually much of a film in terms of the narrative structure and that kind of thing but it is wonderful to watch and it's got some genuine wisconsin genuine footage from the nineteen seventy rice and they did supplementary filming where they had some pretty serious pieces of kit including nonsense. I mean that's actually how david pop lost his leg was. During the film for that they're belga caught fire during the filming of it was caught in that in that sense he was called up. It was just as paradis during the film's. It probably was doing the race but mccain wants. Its data where he approached ferrari. I get factory. Supports does not mean we could we could have been saying had a podcast about five one instead <hes> but he doesn't have the real life results to back up the <unk>. I think he's a big kuipers society. What do you like the there is one particular one day that will i would agree with that one but we come to that later on proved me so well. I guess we stopped one of the reasons why it's like only but he's also very very successful racing car and i guess if we look at the stock is the funny thing is gone on. Seven is is the first great porsche endurance. It's racing car in some ways isn't it. I don't know maybe a little bit harsh predescessors. I call the one the mom it's probably a bit harsh on the no eight which won the great underwriting eighteen sports cars three later car but i think the normal seven yeah. It's the first week porsche up to that point portrait been because remember it was a small companies companies well. It wasn't a big powerhouse. Try and think about nine hundred sixty eight when the idea they came up with it. They never want them on. They were small-time manufacturer the nine eleven to not only been a few years <hes>. This is very much a company. That's yet to kind of stop south porch. We yeah love punched above their weight eight. In terms of small engines cars up against remember. This is the three sixes you go ferrari and ford going at it with big heavyweight calls and pull. She were quite good at picking up. Good class results occasional rule win at somewhere like yeah the talk of florida where you know the powwows and what you needed and then two things happened. They changed the regulations. I will seem sort of are running now really given how quickly the nominations were just a couple of years later but the thing there was concern that the ford marque fours and the peaceful ferraris nine hundred sixty seven were getting too fast and so they sort of cut cut back to sports pro talks to be three liters but then they once it's. They realized that cars aren't the g._t. The smaller engined one were they were quite a few of those out there so the the governing body said if you've got fifty of these cars you can get the five liter effectively production g._t. That's pushing it a bit and then the really so that is not our interplay in the non i seven because we'll see what the big stuff gone and then the real the thing that got got the ball rolling with the non seven was they cut the fifty down to twenty five and then <hes> is a key person in this in the porsche story sort opportunity unity in unpersuaded porsche to go. It's built twenty five for effectively a five liter sport prototype homologated in the g._t. Class g._t. Production sports cars and yeah and i did it in a very short timeframe is interesting cars and that because it it wasn't instantly hugely successful. Was it certainly in the i didn't have the the instant impacts that you might kind of expect to call it that to have well. I think misplacing toys another reason why it's got the legendary status because to the way that porsche done it the previous few years was there too many things was like white selected love experimenting with interesting materials and things they always one of largest cars on the grid and low drag so long tout cars <hes> so again maximizing smaller engines caused they'd have been building that they took that philosophy some logic through the nominees seven seven but they'd already started experiencing problems with the nano y <hes> but the nominees seven of the i had four and a half liter engines took took the performance envelope way beyond not only what portion saying but they were quick et down the moselle in for ford's had been in they renault completely new komo realm really and the low drag became lift and so they had absolutely horrific handling high spicy the rear end those lifting yet so even worse or at least fronts lift those doesn't go too far and it's a bit more stable recite yeah they could start seeing the sky appearing more more more through the back through the mirror sort of thing which is pretty pretty lots of drivers refused refused to drive the car until and the number growing which attracted that you need a good handling car. None of the works drivers wanted to derive it b._m._w. Had a couple of their w drives the persuaded fighted. We'll give charleston's b._m._w. Found out about it. I ban them from doing and in the end that pay property racist david padron frank gardner lots of money to just on the instruction. Get the call to the finish and site. I did get apparently got speak bonus. Pay out for them. That gives you a bit you have. An idea rate is to how white with the calls and it's in its early days because it's a reminder now era the understanding that i'm alex was still quite rudimentary and because it was ed that they could be kind of was out spikes and then this this is this is talked about in the <hes> in in the old school magazine specialist legend is. I just noticed that there was it's an i._r._a. On the surface body were just wasn't accumulating dirt and that kind of things they see they were they were getting low pressure the top surface and yes even now. I think that's a little bit of tension is to who's sports x. could because traditionally john horseman in one of the <hes> g._w. Automotive guy so often running the car and the nana in sixty nine winning the championship losing them on porsche decided they with throwing huge amount of resources such company the project and i lost lemon to an ancient g._t. Forty run by w so i basically went to jim warren said can you on the calls next year. The winter test in australian nine hundred sixty nine and this is where the solution was was found the call came out that test about anywhere between doing three to four seconds of that false depending on which drops your speeds and yeah the big solution was there are lots of bugs will have the car except the korea deck because there was no airflow getting that far so that the shot at the title wasn't doing anything <hes> so the solutions to build up build up the tail kahar and on and it was in the air flow now who spotted that first opened debate but put like all these things. It's not the rarely eureka moment necessarily. Isn't it sometimes a little bit more. The slow process isn't it but at blaze interesting that it's so he's kinda come down so effectively downside team. That's that's picked up on this. We'll i see why was that this elite porsche team and nineteen seventy s just just interesting that and that's the team is often forgotten match thing why it's made mentioned a lot burke but john trauma important figure actually terms of running teams in ira- subplots actually is his tension wade's with perish because they're completely different types of character while i was a very conservative small see everything i'm gonna go to the racetrack with is going going to be a it's gonna have been tested and we're going to run this pike except those hubs it so you bring in nineteen well that yeah absolutely but i think that that affected the relationship because that's only the second time the the iran the bushes and porsche came out with these new jobs for c. Bring on data and abide absolute moral most of the calls of foreign pashtun ferraris ba- <hes> yes these new hobbs handsome incested and why ran them in broken for free on the right and i think from then on that it just underline wiersma might not actually wants to run every porsche putting new three new things on the nominees have all the time. I think every single car is different and they were probably probably in a different spec pretty much every time they appeared. But what porsche did that really irritated while i was to have a second works team say ninety seventy four salzburg so what tended m._v._p. Alford was the best porsche drive in not part of the gulf setup so it was great for porsche. They offer the peace. Whatever it was to wire <hes> who would call up and say we're white into these proven and then the very next day part would be bolted on to the ports per car and the kale food co's all sorts of problems for them with classic while actually is when they brought out the four point nine liter engine and had an oil leak dream practice while now we'll go back thorn half's and found the four point nine was in the alfred r._n.'s car the following day he will disappear down the road when that opponent you so there was quite a lot of ever really saw i like to ally wire and some of the porsche management it's funny as ninety seven so you look at that that the the why porch was that strongest car that didn't manage to win lamont though saving that your vote of see they were won by a porsche but not alive so that by the nineteen seventy six point kosovan becomes his all conquering. I guess one interesting thing ma is the the opposition are up against that at that stage. Now i always think is a little bit dangerous to <hes> right things too much by the opposition because you can't control your position. Sometimes you say something about toys recently but <hes> <hes> in terms of the wider landscape of the content of competition. I rap against in the nevada i read how difficult was it purports to be successful from my perspective coming into as a young person so of the first shots i got seat and i won seventy in the flesh was in of the historic racing wet tradit- well traditionally personally with historic racing is competition. These days is lola t seventy muck freebie by the time this poorly designed that was that was for privateers to come along guy. Racing heart had basically off the shelf chevrolet five liter engine. It was nowhere near well. I was gonna say near the spike quality of the portion but of course it's flat twelve was to fly sixers voters voted together. It was almost make the mend. I'm not getting too many major faces. Listen caught k. There are some key changes to the central central crank and things <hes> for the for the flat twelve but yeah it's interesting picks out the lowly only because obviously impair that would have been interested in seeing which way non seventy gone took guy pearson about this in a fractured a small piece in the issue. Why is the nominee does struggle against the t seven. Two three chevy engine would have been producing an unreliable four hundred. That's four hundred sixty four hundred seventy it who's pattern paired and now can be cranked up to well over five hundred reliably where the nonsense going the other way because he's been exotic. If you blow porsche known seven engine then it's serious money and the other one is is modern chassis sentinel node. The lulu is a semi monocoque so you can you can stiffen everything in it takes it whereas the one of the moments seven strengths at the time was white space frame and you start stiffening suspension and hitting clubs and you just crap the suspension as this chassis tubes so ah the things that worked for imperial been negated really. Have you ever seen a five one basing ni- i've never seen i think the christ we got we was kid would revival where we completely missed it to run display in the in the sort of show yeah yes. I think the the opposition really the main opposition is for. They're actually works out for my matra teams that out during that period as well for always the main in one and it just didn't do good enough job to call wasn't caused path when it was a bit too heavy so bad weight ratio key thing and foreign got their car early enough so that you have instability problems portrait already sold by nineteen seventy think the five onto 'em which is the call paid ended on seventy actually jackie blue the normans yeah well y at the asteroid ring indices before it filed southern portion you. That's what they're guy. Inside five liter engine never just one of the reasons that i put forward what is being the greatest race in is because of the number innovations that they used as drilled brake discs come in during that point. I tried a._b._s. That she did even think about reverse in the cooling fan on the top of the engine to suck effectively kovac came under nathan produce downforce it actually shout the engine too much debris so the guy down that right but i try and different things all the time so kind of come back around see original question. Are we talking about kind of the opposition. That was that so how how how serious the three think of all says always this question mark is that you can judge it by the opposition but if a car such that forward it can make the opposition look weaker. Shall we say than it. Perhaps most fundamentally well. I think with the nine one seven is prime. Go from porsche was to win lamont so they it was an on slow nine hundred seventy when when an upward finally one month porsche i think they qualified fifth and it was a race of attrition they they came to the front. This was pushed dominated that race with entries and it's something that is not possible at nine. Three five is dominated the whole grad red but they were it was a real this tactic. I win yeah. I think that's failed. I would say now about fourteenth on the grid the nine hundred seventy empty car. I think they must have been lamont grit positions of one of those things that you quite quite easily yeah well. I think i would about twelve seconds off in qualifying and that russia has the <unk> richard. I read about that and he he driven he. He driven the white car and six calvert. They pulled sir. You won't get the finishes. It'd be a waste of time but be careful was adamant. He always wanted to tharcisse thingy hands on because you know why he said what wa drive on the corner that i can deployed applied on wall. Santoni mall are false nails and they absolutely sort of so carefully stumbling went out and just blitzed it yet the app. This is a quick as alfred atwood. I think we're trying to get the cost. The end got within three three hours or so the finish which was much further than portrait expected in the car. Bryk had no desire to drive the car. He was caught cleveland but even though they were why hate in the late nineteen seventy. They asked him early on what you want you want. I want short tile on the four and a half basically the slowest version in the non seventy could think of to get to the end and he realized in practice the the might be gone too far because i had no pain whatsoever but as as matt anyway it was announced there would push spur cars at a at a long tile l. with a five liter engine that the short four and a half that long tau with a four and a half and gopher there as well as the main the main entry is where it was was yeah but then for all you finish far as well it was a proper porsche ferrari head-to-head one of the first ones actually <hes> unfortunately the way the connoisseur holding otherwise it could have been a real a real <hes> but yeah i just can't guy that didn't have any problems and and that even when he tells the story now how will we in the lead often on tena is absolutely ridiculous and i plotted along and kept it going. I guess this was just going over. How dominant the nine one seven nine thousand seven hundred seventy one off seat won the world endurance championship years. It's spicy one olimpija races. I just want to tell you to see bring lipponen. The moment seventy targa florio as well in say in daytona see bring in seventy one as well as i think alpha dog ring and seventy one the dog auto i three switch back to the one thing i would put against the number seventy eight doesn't have a win to its name at one thousand kilometers which i think he's one of the key races but that's because porsche hats another awesome call ready to go it wasn't at that shows how much they were pushing everything and that she had because she liked internal competition slightly ferrari ish in that way he had to that two separate project managers almost seven the nano eight so they were both almost paying off against each other in the nano. I think did a laptop that was i think it was fractionally creek around the neighbor green but the real killer was etc on one one this feels dot now in seventy six no brainer then and they said we'll do not oh three out for taller and and <hes> agreeing now of course now that i was thinking about porsche whitten's but yeah but if you look at seventeen seventy one there's there's twenty one while the jurors championship races and they've won the the vast majority of them. Yeah it was it was the call to have i suppose at this point we should bring in the the the one that we earlier on one which is actually quite cater next part of the porsche store as well so it's a good one talk about so russia penske tried to get hold ornaments seven got through to the wrong person didn't work out didn't get the car saw ferrari instead. It wasn't overly impressed with mark mark donohue. He's race race driver and engineer and don cox. He was a big catcher penske as well. This is an opportunity to recommend everyone acquire claw and read a copy of multiple. He's the unfair advantage which is one of the all-time great motoracing books mypillow yet now. I'd say i'd agree with that in fact if you if you want to read more about the non say the donnybrook and in peter morgan's brooklyn seven the to go to <hes> say good to set further reading ospel magazine. I yeah yeah absolutely yeah. We're on the road. I thought you'd already done that. He's as hundred you can't complex much boils moccasins. Thank you very much yeah so they want the impression to the ferrari so they did the the classic pence they completely strip the car down they think in the end they got so frustrated with trying to get parts from ferrari that they started fabricating road and things they the americans americans were head of the europeans in terms of downfalls and wings three canam <hes> largely through canada anyway and so they big we on the back track. I did an engine that was more powerful than ferrari at mashed it it was a very special car and they would out for data for nineteen seventy-one in it and it blew it blew the pushes away and qualifying rodriguez hung onto donahue and the rice but then penske had is other a secret weapon was its refueling system so they were in the gym. Wars team was nine as being pretty yeah pretty unstoppable that the penske them as well <hes> abbott but it had <hes> there were problems and then he had a crash i think during the night and every time the penske fav onto turned up went head to head with the nama seven eight wars faster except for it the mon- wage eight we couldn't keep up with the long tails but it was a very special car and i think it was partly that plus frustrations with y that made poor she actually they knew pushing you. The call's going to be banned. The end of the year the father each sports car regulations said basically almost the governing body had announced it was going to be banned almost as soon as they realize what was happening so they knew they couldn't do anything more than on oh and seven for seventy two unless they went canam and wants to go with them <hes> but i think the the the the penske operation the fact that already he had knowledge of canam and was had this incredible one or ferrari that was giving them. All sorts of trouble never appeared. I think persuaded or helped persuade porsche go to roger penske to come up with the the kanan project what we'll talk about in depth about the camera version because that's a whole different chapters of about this car. We should say that in the in the magazine plugging. There's a few little little facts you throw about some sort of confines the <hes> the pace of the car one of which is the <hes> <hes> the spa winning speed which because there's so many pages i'm trying to. I'm trying to turn through the patient as we speak volleyball. The the spa winning speed in seventy one seventy one it is faster than still in the average pre fosters winnings beat yeah they and they finished together. It was a it was one of the things i'm jesse. James new bolt helps our this salon credits. I saw james because he spoke to jackie oliver about it and one of things i always wanted to know. Why didn't they take the long because the long tau were sought by seventy. One older drivers said so. Why didn't i take it anywhere else because he knows day. Spa and monz were both faster average speeds in the mon- anyway. This was the old the old the old long spa scary responded with the master king and all the rest of it and you can still go around. This is what we're spa. It's easy to accidentally find yourself so it's very easy to find talk all of it basically agreed he would have been absolutely awesome to tighten own tail carla but why because the too short tiles and more to be fair to j w they'd done some of their own so it wasn't just porsche and they'd come up with a little meat wing air force ready to call it between in the two parts to the tail threats to stability but for jewish drag on the beta kits and the two dominant i won't seven spared him on this is also where the froyo of got the works three once he pay which z. guys on to dominate sports car racing in three era <hes> i i just completely run a profit spa. They just dropped the distance and i thought by scholars four laps behind the average one hundred and fifty five hundred and fifty defoe eight miles now just looking at sir with dr changes and feels dominated district. I it's on the page with the john. Jay boxer legs <hes> technically wonderful wonderful cut-away juror join. You can't do nowadays most <hes> also the smarter spa facts in the four when a thinks rodriguez he's i that was ten point nine seconds faster than the phone one fastest lap from the grocery that year. There's another factor i liked in here which just facts and ooh but as facts about s- <hes> that the sixty-nine <hes> poulton vostok tom being one point five seconds bruce mclaren's previous record despite the mission of the ford chicane yeah so that's the reason. Why is that tells you how the first fact tells you just how quick the call walls. It was occupied creeks racing car around that for road racing this one size you how big it's a totally got him on even even in nineteen sixty nine when he wasn't quite well it would be and you can see why the sports governing body was so miffed because within two years of getting rid of the big monsters than almost almost seven was was quicker. I mean actually if you think about yeah. The nose was a sports prototype with a proper racing engine whereas with respect to the various marks sogeti forty which is another ledge car but the seven later i was basically nascar nascar engine that was a very <hes> undestroyed car aw so i suspect that those seven litres wouldn't have been chucked out more than probably out i four hundred ninety less powerful than the four and a half pusher engine and in a big heavy actually force where were caught special as well but not the why the nominees seven worst so it just it just moved invite completely out of the into a new into new realm and that's before we can get to canada matab adjudging we should say just as a as i mentioned obviously the the nine one seven not repeats to be the safest i fiscal i'm john wolf who killed at sixty nine a month for of see those wide significance turn to the actions of what it meant for the white ulama started well. Yes i mean that's the the flames the most running across the roads and jumping in and certain drivers wearing a fan of your wedding jackie who wasn't actually part the safety criticizing the way the jackie stewart was at that time they even hate the because we encourage carries drops to jump in color that in their belts up <hes> you would do that. That's the that's the quickest way to do so. He's if i miss the start six nine rice. He walked across to his g._t. Forte which given how close the finish of see. That's why it's another reason why it's remember wolf. He was to share that was the first property in seven he was to share it with dick me. Marlon marlon had a think something like three complete complete spins without hitting anything practice drove in retired when i'm not driving that goodbye porsche provided a driver but they couldn't persuade not take the star and he wasn't completely experienced. Sometimes it's all he didn't have experience he had driven chevrons and things but there was nothing to prepare for the normal seven really and he made i think he got a couple of wheels on the girls at what house which nosedives a proper agai if you if you go around some of the service roads at the mall you can find the bits of track and how is so narrow. You can't believe her now is so it's a small error with huge consequence. Guess couples in the galaxy guys off in a horrible accident. I mean some of the pictures of what is left. I mean it's yes not not very nice and he was he was killed and create a fire call circuit big traffic jam which was in poughkeepsie done these protest took out one dollars as well so combined that with the patient and seven i think the first couple of calls to come through and then if you're probably been rather where it's not something obviously happened and portugal law or criticism for allowing wolf to drive that car and actually reading old sam y'all magazine you can. There's also some criticism for the governing body you forced porsche to build twenty five of these cars and there are definitely not fifty draws capable of driving in fact vic elford said even some of the works porsche draw. Perhaps weren't capable of getting them at you. Consider some of the drivers who drove out who found it difficult particularly in that trim. That's a that's a lot. Vic elford is the only one spoke to genuinely seems to have liked even the early car i think because he just lost the audio cracking policy but he said it was so scary. All the drivers go out of his way might even easier easier as soon as i saw it in the mirror they will if you draw imagine you feel doing down the malzahn andrea furry flower on seven hundred fifty and even early i seven four and a half and it would have been cut it into two twenty seven mile our approach speed and the calls wandering cross the road in your marriage. Mary's is coming up behind. You probably would jump out as much as you could say. We'll see official <hes> nine one seven spdr fix. I say i see a range of about six smells and yeah there are few different courts to i think the poor porsche a calculated the long tau in seventy one which is the ultimate lemond version should have been out to do two hundred and fifty one miles an hour. They couldn't do that and they eventually worked out. The light is because they hadn't calculated lighted tigress at that speed think rolling resistance is open exactly yeah and i think it was last week so i think it was a mere two hundred forty three bows. Now that's interesting me mark donohue we announced this in a moment but when he was developing the non seven thirty which is ultimate the alternate racing car forced up he was testing at paul ricard had two seventy three season and he was king frustration that the colwyn do more than about two hundred twelve miles now i mean amazingly two hundred twelve and he went to on that can do more than this mark for ford luhrmann and the longtown seven so stick it on on a place so the persuaded into and the laptop as she was about the same because he lost in downfalls apple's weekend down strike but he he just wanted it because he had his own riverside finale. He wanted to two hundred fifty miles an hour and a race in a kind of race and just before the rice the organizers maiden on the shoulder circuit. Don't here's pretty miffed so the non seven thirty actually never raced to its maximum potential attempt to straight lines well. It's probably a good time to the the canam continuation. Should we sigh of the coming did go a bit mental yeah. It's basically saying to an unlimited formula and when the nine one seven thirty came along i think qualifying trim fifteen hundred horsepower an entire entire all the way down to poetry eleven hundred horsepower for race spec yep i in a way is is almost odds to the this this o- of argument for it being the greatest co though it's probably terrible to dispatch couve watching these cars amazing but i'm much for the way donohue dominated the trump shapur probably wasn't particularly spectacular to watch for the world's where races but like i said odds of around because effectively killed a pair of that championship because after that they changed the regulation she had the oil crisis. Come in you had one last hurrah with the <hes> with the the shot i next the the next year and then from then on use of wendy's of adopted formula five thousand cars and ties of konami have like the donation of mclaren's iterations of gets annoying seventeen thirty and it stops the championship at track and it strikes and so so impressive yeah i think one of the subsidy robberies zayn then wanna push frustrations was kind of ami's remember to the lot nostalgia for the reasons that you say the unlimited but i mean the racing. Oh i think biolog- was pretty poor. Partly cloudy such good job now mclamb went monocoque so they were hating terms of stiffness slightness ratio of porsche so portion you and of course the the chevrolet engines mclamb using a bigger and bigger and bigger so porsche tippett's toe in canam in sixty nine and seventy one with joseph in a connor semi privateer efforts whereas you'd call it and nicole tended to be reliable it. It was quite good at finishing fourth that seem to be caught good of that but couldn't really touch the mclaren so portion you then ease the big on power. The two options were sixteen cylinder engine engine. I mean that just completely it was so long sixteen cylinder engine made car the handling was allow again so they realize turbochargers the white the guy and the thing that frustration porsche is an awful lot of effort into that engine program and then effectively banned end of the two years whereas mclaren had been dominating the challenges in sixty seven to seventy one and that was fun. I think if you being jones you'd say well that's because the porsche came with technology that no one else could do and so they will not. It's probably thought whoa how other people did have a gut. Turbo charging rhode course engine and they couldn't do it. The reason porter actually is because of dawn the here this donaghy so key to the story porsche could not get the turbo to work it. It wouldn't couldn't started even and he went across like fluid engine out it it brought it was all sorts of donahue an oncoming to germany and he went there and and he had good relationship with porsche engineers anybody he persuaded them to run the engine normally aspirated and that guy even the donald data to go to bosh on the management of the engine and because there's an extra parameter to the to the measurement system which is <hes> by based then they were able to mount the engine and come up with this and then it worked and once that was done for penske chassis changes and pence. Let's get it persuaded. Portions have put big wings on the car pro. She wanted to do and other low drag and i'm car which would have been a guy in a disaster mclaren. They wouldn't debate mclamb clara's already doing good job <hes> so record penske's input on the air and donahue on the engine but in france supports they then proceed that all working and they rocked up at the star seventy two with seven ten and <hes> which is a foregone car actually that seventeen because he's kind of the interim one but as won't kill mcclaren learn mclamb gumbo so enormous thirty i mean because at all and seven tendency in the mall and it was just this tremendous continuation doesn't mean you have to two years of dominance sir of world endurance championship and then two years encounter with fulmer and then and then donahue so saw this four year lifespan neatly divided without sort of preface in sixty nine yeah absolutely and and <hes> one of the points the thing made in the charge might in the magazine is the is the only car i can think of that was was essentially banned from two international categories having dominated assume that's pretty we've had caused the fan call. It was not bad the carnivores unofficially and certain cars that were legislated out multiple but to have two major championships that you've basically done such could job of dominating that. I changed the rules. I think he's pretty pretty special. This is what becomes saw your hearts argue gets one seven from being the greatest racecar as kabul time because if you take for instance the two thousand seventeen mercedes hybrid i would agile the grand free expert. You'd say that's essentially development of one car but since has a different name than it is to separate 'cause whereas nine one seven nisa transcended was for four and a half liters up to up to four point nine nine up to five liters and then and then fly put forward the end with a turbo yup overseas had k. had longed how you had nine seventeen tied nine seventeen thirty eight's lifespan undo so you could you could it started the story before because of how much is based on the nine away and then oversee <hes> the nine seventeen at structure became a template for group c racing as well so i for for how for how many of different disciplines success the how many iterations of development for all of what it spans is a pretty concrete case for being the greatest because you say yeah if i if i was to come back if other cars basically kept name for longer maybe those that'd be more more more close rival but there's nothing quite like the lifespan because we should say at hillside life as well so forgotten that was kind of <hes> so european and i'm also have unrestricted naturally into saving lympstone until about ten years ago though senator say reach seen into syria writes sir laos in two thousand and six supporting g._p. Ninety thousand five secondary one g._p. Rights but yeah that's exactly i would drive is like kinderman of c._f._c. winning matter as well well the one of the pick up on both those points are vaca- offered because he i i believe he driver to driven every single iteration so now how similar actually was the last one to the first on i mean we interests over non levin talk thing where your current g._t. Non-lebanese clearly not the same as at yeah nine hundred seventy nine eleven and he said it was it felt exactly signed but just more power the i was the the basic space frame chassis see that would like i never tweaks yes but again the engine was fundamentally y- tabas belts on any big but it will still the same engine everything was just constantly constantly evolved but in a very short time frame so it did it did still feel seven in in his opinion. I'm i'm so happy ago with with alfred is probably it's onto bringing the inevitable ranking podcast without there being some kind of ranking list involved in in the in the post nine one seven special available now now the pluck doc you have picked out the top five nine one seven drivers so should we address them in reversal gone before brian redman yeah as a classroom is wrong thing for five the first fourth pills for easily but fifth one it could have been a real storm lane with his almost on the basis of his lap at sixty and sixty nine lemond jackie jackie oliver who still holds the record for the fastest as lowest time around lemond every two to three minutes thirteen point six. I think it was the test dane seven twenty long tale <hes> just ridiculous and the and the abroad redman think he's one of the great underwriter drivers <hes> <hes> you know he had such incredible hydrog dr james care andretti except for any always matched up well to them very rarely made a mistake the gulf team human seventy <hes> redmond joseph was sort of porsche pairing porsche place them at the team while had petrie kenan and certainly safer always felt that they got the the worst end of the day you and the results said he went tend to go against them <hes> but they were behalf redman was was real in absolute top notch driver and actually they would have won had sifford not blown engine are gonna pass the pits <hes> so so yeah redmond was the redman made in at number five well before cafes vic elford you previously mentioned him as a bit of a bit of a problem for the for the water with this salzburg porch on sex auburn aubenas looking at looking at outrageously only has one world sportscar championship wins his name just ridiculous but yeah it was a waste. It was always i mean he's actually the star of those first maps to about film lemond they want long-tailed car with red flashes which which features strongly at the star of of the failed stop the rice in the film that him because he he led from he got from paulo and he reckons that that's that was his favorite moment actually river racing that yeah he was he was absolutely not again another under eighty jura thing i actually i turned to kind of parallel fit in redmond together other than that both outstanding drivers versatile but they both i think the reason both of them get a little bit the writers neither of them have kind of an automatic subtitles to what they did. If you see so you mean it's all very good in a lot of things a lot of things but they don't have kind of the derek how many lamon wins and that kind of thing said to stray waco say which i think doesn't but to serve as many absolutely i mean i did interview a different novelist a couple of years gallon. The best sports kadyrov's inevitable lemond and alfred was on an interesting speech to these draws to what they're viewing in a lot of the muscle phyllis of philosophical about things but it's still quite irritates him especially especially as as the one that he was convinced allen seven could win them on nothing even now he's. He's annoyed that it wasn't him i needed it wasn't always that you went for the new care and that's why that's why filed. Sometimes he was just just unlucky. Lot with punk shirts mother mandarin mentioned earlier but now you're probably right. I mean they elf. It's inclined to fame is winning data in monte carlo in the same on scott rally. I mean he was in credit. Anyone the first ever rallycross event ledin just incredibly versatile draw with people. Don't i remember very well because he didn't go and have a big f exactly but yeah outstanding driver number three on the list is joseph who i think oversees the second wide receiver the offing. That's a perfect way of putting that he would have heightened that mississippi and rodriguez teammates baram and porsche and they had a real real ovary. I mean sometimes overstepping the mark in the the famous incident of crashing into or bumping into each other. Throw agrees on the first lap nine hundred seventy thousand kilometers. I mean they hit twice on the left and the right hand part. There's a bit footage actually an so far ahead of the field already his hundred yards off for the start and they've just only care about each other but bilateral regis tended to get the upper hand when take a contemporary reports you get the impression that petro rigas doing everything with his fingertips and it's all finesse and balance and sifford contadini a bit more elbows without having to probably try a bit harder to do that at times <hes> but yeah i mean he was it was the poll should driver in sixty nine him in redmond want everything in the night really andy guy. The seventies i i in sixty nine had had to be in the lisp missile on top top two slot really <hes> numbers as mark donohue. We've touched on a little bit should have been probably it's time canan champion in the nine one seven. He missed the mr seventy season <hes> the campaign on george volmer when we missed out mere to apply for that championship owing to injuries he did come back in season not missile thing that down the money but what do you make it on the heat now because he's he's another one of these extraordinary drivers. He's just a fantastic story and again. Maybe he's a drive gets a little overlooked because he doesn't quite have that same. <hes> list. I peak achievement low of the five hundred. Perhaps the <hes> the those big rice. He did one yard agree with that. Ooh i the the seventeenth thirties so <hes> say well remembered overbid for its power is worth remembering was obviously donahue crepe person i sometimes call control but you're without a great engineering mind as well which i think is probably probably lost a little bit then he can say on unplugged and do two hundred forty six miles now at talladega think the record speed. They sat too close to speed record. There's an article on that. In the special dish multiple magazine now funds another seamless homeless plug people almost wouldn't notice your first podcast that but there's there is still there is still i think there's footage on youtube or other internet video the data streaming supplying services but oversee the nine one seven thatta you had <hes> was it four six years of our of <hes> out of the public i i walked up with this new livery and then basically he he was a person they drafted into that just to disagree a little footnote so that's another good feature to written well number one driver who has been touched on already covers puerto rico who i kind of associate with the wet places like brands hatch in nineteen aww can yeah i think he's drive at brands hatch soon to people that he got black fly that flag very early on for allegedly passing the yellows which he was adamant that he didn't and to be honest a guy news footage of that. It's quite understanding that you've missed the i. I don't think he i don't think he was pushing. Let's put it that way and he dropped nearly latte behind and i think it was about six hour race and he ended up doing about follow all of our house thirty five or something and he went from being a lot behind winning bought five laps so it was this footage of it is dull tsing ah listen go. Oh god my mind's eye really solid ways off drew. Its of that absolutely i mean it's kind of a sort of dreadnought adrift and diversity yeah but it's also he doesn't lose massive anytime you sideways you are by definition not quite going in the right direction but it wasn't it wasn't a half spin kind of thing he was it was russell argue a half spin this footage of that car spinning on i think that is keenan and during his very brief stint which i think is why he was then brought in. I think petro's just in the zone basically in is with us as well. He came through the second. I different tires and nothing unique situation. Repair probably had a better tire but even so so that's one of the great autumn weather performs is in any category. He also reckoned rodriguez best. Obviously are struggling in seventy one. When i delight he was coming back and he's taking huge chunks of time out in the three hundred ep it was gonna be nipping top <hes> and then the ferrari had i think at an accident in petra anyway and monster in nineteen seventy a he basically single handedly def- defeated a three day was chased throughout by three five five hundred ferraris and i think for our removing chris news the quickest right dr of that day in and out of different 'cause i think he was in at least two of them to try and catch him and they just couldn't say <unk>. I think he's the he's the nominee seven driver thing. Donahue is the nominee. I is the most important in terms of the technical side but i think yeah the powder out of blue orange sideways seven case. It's gonna be petro thing eight of its fifteen wet as well so that was a that was kind of a the customer strategy about federal rigas is the was killed during an industry. I think it was necessary. Rice suddenly non-championship sports car race in a ferrari fall onto so having raised against it in the seven year this hour seven face and reputation absolutely fine never any problems and did and and killed in a relatively moderate in in the rival car. There's a certain symmetry with rodriguez. Brothers isn't that mr riccardo earliest similar fight off program out saying she should. We say well just to finish off. Let's let's just have a little bit of a personal favourite nine. One seven. I said there's multiple iterations of the the magazine special edition which i mentioned again hustled a a kind of index of the forms uh-huh at the car you've got title nine different versions and common interests area and what to expect so which is the favorite cafe you can go first as as coyote scene on seven to this my <hes> lounge home on the wall because i've got to racing cars. <hes> oppenheim and one of them is <hes> the nineteen seventy-one longtime nine. Seven one of the least successful is about the only non seven that didn't win anything but i i just think that the bush engineers it was k. Because they prove the long tau thing could work they'd come through and if you compare that with the sixty nine call you can see the changes happening. Multiple times square a lower wing on the back. You know so it's it's you can suddenly see a modern sports car appearing think with the so called that you wouldn't have looked out place on a group secret cy young delivers record both the martini civil blue and red and the gophers mckay. Do you have a different opinion on day. I'm incredibly shallow so advice. Mind purely on good licks unfamiliar say the original chassis. This josh pot for large looks like an airfoil with. I didn't have quite the same properties as it just. It looks i think personally when you get to sort of pink peg it looks a bit a bit bloated big and so of his law some of the elegance an and an assume whereas if it was difficult compared to the ten in therapy because open-top spider 'cause i'm almost generally will move with the times that looks like a seventy shape whereas you already caused like that so of more flowing sixty sports car and unpasteurized provide the lines in the the original show our appreciation for that car did go up june the courses. I was fortunate to spend the day with porsche when they brought their. That's w o on the magazine's w one the very i car the lead the lineup the outsides different house and when when says came along to check they had twenty five which porsche had done which ferrari didn't and <hes> it's always been a day around the key in east gorgeous. Actually it really is an agreed the the flowing lines so yeah. I think that's a fair. That's pretty well. What about you then so neither is gone for the class. Seven orleans insult to tools accounts ratissi. That'd be the normal seven. Thirty is the ultimate i like. The fact is a little bit out our ages so connected with penske dominique's domestiques. I find that fascinating era also there's just as a way to such. I'll just really lie. Open cell types who is always shining disappeared eight from pneumonia in recent years and just quite like. I know that maybe aesthetically they're less clean largest are just like i prefer closed caused by that. It's nice to have have a mix of then. That's what you what you want really. They don't say the penske delivery is really cool in an thirty that dull blue and yellow fats apparently the <hes> the porsche engineers this little story pull the porsche engineers were a bit for straight without a paint penske is because penske's all about making the 'cause look amazing as there's a kind of almost a sock and logical <unk> even started so they are believed at least one of the bodies in our seven thirty. We'll set in con of blue resin so they wouldn't have to paint it and and then penske pint anyway so i just didn't take the hidden or they deliberately ignored it but also finish on the legacy i think the nonce thirty probably in a way the most relevant because it's the first successful turbo charge the tenant thirty the first successful turbocharged racing cars outside of indy day and has done he points out gang turbine to okinawa road course is a very different catfish having one. That's basically fully opened at indeed dot com so then has a lot of nine three six which one one three times is actually kind of non seven <hes> not eleven turbo ch- allow not road car <hes> that was that technology orgy bright technology discs champ for disks that came out with an awful lot exotic materials. They use continued. I actually push still oh very into the exhaust materials always so it set the tone for porsche. I think of off the lemon wins as well just across across the board. It has a big impact and is a time is probably the beginning of the tall when risk rice 'cause had become more more restricted. I'm not doing it was batman then fingers. I think there's good and bad from now and for history but it's a time where restrictions will begin to come in because called nama seven came along longin just mighty so dicky fifteen hundred host bashes ridiculous so so yeah. I think it says it's for me. A bit of a mall stone call dot on seventeen thousand as well is <hes> is today. It's not been treated as some shoddy. Pioneer eight makes quite regular parents which is great say. Is this beautiful patina hainer. It's not been restored. It stinks of as few but i get same stuff. They despise been <unk> international before it's been at goodwood mice recently. You know you get to you get to see an must must've fairplay stop in hidden in the porsche museum. Oh behind some sort of a._o. One thing to appraisal of jerem manufacturers for mercedes being another. They do call for their heritage so they as you say they bring the cows. My one frustration is on really wanna see one seven just driven flat chat so i was very fortunate to be it still isn't classic guy pearce and drove cars monteverdi his car and he got the car up about th driven properly basely but i think we had a talk talk about an idea of what call dr combination from history. Would you like pick the carpet drive. Pick the track on our pick nolan seven thirty nar dramatically elsia. Were staying because i i just think that wa top two full boost manslaughter. That would just be something awesome to watch nath. That'd be incredibly different podcast. Yeah yeah some interesting ideas their well even even john lennon sites into their portion on seven. I'm urging again to pick up a copy audible magazine that stuff out now and it's still available for the next few days and also if you'll you'll not in the high hi you're not such a fan of paper magazines dot com and scroll down in the bottom left. You'll see a little digital magazine. You can get online <hes> version of that. Also some of these features will start to appear in the in the plus subscribe at some stage. Yes bay off the one and i gave him three days. Each had our walmart easel three so we might maybe a compromise on too. I mean just to go through walls. In the mac. 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02 - 000 Magazine with Pete Stout and Alex Palevsky

Cars That Matter

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02 - 000 Magazine with Pete Stout and Alex Palevsky

"From commedia this is horse stat matter. This is Robert Ross with Kirk. Oh media's cars that matter and today we're talking about some cars that really really matter matter to me into the fellows in the room. I'm here with Pete. Stout and Alex Pelewski cofounders of triple-zero. What I think is probably the greatest first Porsche publication on the planet and frankly maybe one of the most beautiful magazines in the world? Greetings guys thanks for having us here. Yeah great to be here well. It's nice to the able to connect I know Pete's up in San Francisco. Alex's road on a Mafia and that's a great place to be either chance to meet you pete back in. I'm going to say two thousand one. I think both of us were on a new model launched for Lamborghini of all things and you know the time we started talking these. These gatherings are usually fairly quick and dirty as it were but at the time we had some nice conversations conversations and I I really admire your talent not just as an editor but kind of as an all around likable guy and certainly one of the most likeable in the business and of course I felt like had known since before. I met you because I was a subscriber to excellence magazine right. I was there for quite a while actually fifteen years. That is a real tenure especially in. Today's Day of you know nomads ads. Who basically jumped from job to job? Every two years you were the editor in chief by ninety eight which was a very good year because I took delivery my nine nine three C. forests that. That's a good. Yeah it was Your incoming so I was certainly deeply entrenched in excellence and you know it was kind of a real lone voice in the Wilderness for American publications. Komo Alex at the time you were probably with BMW Better magazine. Is that right. Well I worked for Ross. Which is the parent company of excellent? So mainly I worked on sports car car international and boomer but I kinda Moonlit on excellence from time to time as well now of course I look forward to getting something else every three months. And it's probably time to talk about triple zero which you've been publishing since twenty sixteen. It's written out in a trio of Zeros. Respectful of the horseshoe script. And it's also in respective porsches tradition of using three digit numerals to designate design or a model I e the iconic nine eleven. I know that It's not a magazine like any other and end I know that it has some attributes that are just absolutely remarkable. I WanNa talk to you guys about that. There's no advertising in there to speak of very little. There's a little little bit. We almost went no advertising Ed. But I've noticed the ads that you do have are. I would call them tasteful and appropriate and they usually have something to do with the aesthetic underpinnings of Porsche Porsche. Ownership your content is just amazing. I mean it drills deep your creative director Justin pages responsible from some brilliant design and photography it just is at the level of magazines in the design field and of course the printing and binding his second to none. I mean you definitely get your moneys worth. I know what it takes to make those magazines Agassi scenes so tell us about it. So the Genesis of triple-zero came in two thousand sixteen some a lot of resource came and said salvaged with excellent Panorama. I'd like to see what you can do with the blank slate. And I'll be your bank and that kind of caught me off guard and so he said company with concept and luckily as an English English major I had done about seven business models by then starting something had always been on my mind and of course as an English major the first three or four business plans were terrible but what I would say to anybody thinking about maybe written well maybe maybe they were written out of business plans for dummies. I think it was the book I worked from. But what I'd say to anybody thinking about a business plan is the first time he right one. You'll think it's terrible and it will be terrible. Most likely Lisi was for me but the more you write them the better you get at it and so I I think this was like the six or seven business plan I'd written and so I I wrote the business plan submitted to them. Well I I told him the concept for quarterly Porsche. Something real deep dive didn't have a name for it yet. Just had this idea of studying porsche at a deeper level as a car nut I. I'm interested in all cars but my career steered by excellence and my nine fourteen that I grew up with took me down the road a Porsche and so many rich relationships shore so I went to the concept for this and said this. This isn't going to be inexpensive to make and I don't think we should try to target a large audience. This should be for the audience that really cares and wants to understand the mark. They want understand what is the meaning eating behind that shield on the hood. He said Great. Come back to me with the business plan and luckily I had done some business plans so I brought the business plan back to him and he looked at this and he'd been in. Vc for many years and said this is the most honest business plan. I've seen in fifteen years. Let's do it. But then he had a series of setbacks with one of the many companies he works with and I think thousands of people depend on him being focused on that much more important than a little passion project. Sure and so when it looked like it wasn't going to go. I called two friends. Decrying Kreiner shoulders people who've been sounding boards along the way for the concept and one was Jeff's work and the other was Alex Levski longtime friends and then the next day. I got a text from Alex. Said I think I can and find the money. Call me this afternoon so I did and he says look you know I wanna see you do this and I can probably figure out a way to make this work we do together and my first thought was whatever ever this can be. I don't want it more than our friendship because that went back to Ross periodicals or is it doesn't. We'll do it the right way. It doesn't have to be that way. So that was kind of the beginning of triple zero. It didn't even have a name yet and so we formed an LLC and got going in the summer of two thousand sixteen went and visited Germany together. Ah the Porsche factory to let them know what our intentions were. And what we were going to be doing that flight over I think is very important to talk about because the flight over you know now we we're just dealing with a concept and the sky was the limit. We could do whatever we wanted. It was a complete blank slate so pete nye sitting next to each other on that twelve hour flight eight or whatever it was over to Germany now was the time to figure out. Okay what are we actually going to put in this thing. And that was a very interesting flight bouncing having ideas back and forth narrowing down. What would be possible? Wouldn't be possible. What an actual issue of this thing would look like so when we got to Germany we Kinda I had a rough idea of what this thing was gonna look like and how it was going to read but what? I didn't tell Alex on that flight was I had this chilling moment as we were flying over the Atlantic mannix somewhere and Alex and I were talking. What would go in this thing? Whatever stories told if all the stories have been told what I've been doing this Porsche thing for eighteen years? What what if all the good stories are told had excellent Panorama? What if my friend here has gone all in on this with me? And I've resigned from my position at Panorama to start this crazy art project object. What if all the good stories are done? And what have I done and we got to Germany and we spent the better part of a week in the archive and around with Peter. Lonard Burger the head archivist vest at the time and I felt like I was back in college like maybe a sophomore in college. It's like saying you know what if all the music spin written with all the great artists been made and in some would argue that their stolen opportunity to explore. And obviously you guys have done that. After heaping some well deserved. Praise on their triple zero magazine. I asked the knowledge likes to talk about the Porsche models that really matter most but they wanted to talk about one card in particular. This model was so unique we almost never knew it existed it. It was built but never turned a wheel in anger a race car. That never raced. Oh do tell will for issue seven we did a story on the Ellen. PC thousand which is a porsche that not that many people know about and it was meant to be the follow up race car to the nine eleven. GT1 Ninety eight the one Lemond ninety-eight famously on the fiftieth anniversary. That's right and so Norbert Singer and Co had planned this V ten spider. This world endurance racing spider. This LLAMA car and would have been able to raise elsewhere as well. And it was an An outgrowth of the footwork's V twelve program didn't do that well And they kind of figured out Metzker and his engine crew kind of figured out that this engine wants to be a v ten out of twelve and so they re address that engine and it became a v ten and they had plans to put the spider into racing and they looked at it. v Twelve Coupe as well. They looked at putting the twelve into a coupe. But none of this was known to to me or anyone really. All the we. All knew was that they had a car. It was rumored they had this. LLP Two thousand. The project was happening under complete secrecy and they cancelled cancelled it to build the Cayenne instead First things first and so violent vita king was vilified by all the enthusiasts out there and there was some t shirts made with. profanities vanities. The late Bruce Anderson had a t shirt made up. F- Lama we're building trucks that's right And so a lot of the enthusing were up in arms of. How can you not go racing after winning the mall with the GT1 ninety eight racing is the core of Porsche and it is at some level but ferry porsche was always industry cars? Ferry Porsche had multiple points. Chosen the road cars as more important than the race Kliot ethicists Ferrari for instance exact much like Lamborghini correct. No interest in racing. Molin remember the Formula One program Ferry Porsche. Russia chose Nope. We're not going further with this. Remember for wanting thirteen inch wheels on the ninety six and Porsche saying sorry nephew. You've got to use up all those fifteen inch wheel stirs so Porsche had at various points. Even though vedic vilified for this Porsche had various points made these sorts of decisions and Dan the Ellen P two thousand was caught on film with what must have been six hundred or twelve hundred millimeter lens. One time one day flying saucer exactly. It's like the Loch ness monster and I don't know this to be true but I believe that it was leaked to somebody that the car was gonNA run once now. I believe leave that I didn't know that. Then and two or three photos leaked out into the world of this car and very low resolution and then you can google them. Come right up if you Google Porsche. Olympia two thousand. That had sort of grainy long distance images will come kind of like the JFK Marilyn photos. I have very much so very much so so. This car was shot from a very far distance away from the devices test track. They got one from three quarter one rear three quarter and one side profile not complete and then that was it. The car disappeared. There was never another photo of and poor show did not acknowledge that this car existed which is very important to mention for a long long time they would not acknowledge it so the car just into thin air and what really really happened was it was put into this underground vault they used to have she may have seen at some point Robert in your travels but they never the one that particular mummy and then okay so they they. The car dispute disappeared under in into a vault and undercovers and vedic king was apparently furious. That the three photos had gotten out and they dispatched a crew to figure out where the photos had come from and to make sure that no photos would ever come from that space again. As the years went on I was sitting at my desk one day in the Porsche. Calendar showed up. Porsche does an annual calendar with a different theme every every year and it's just clarify and in some years they do. Multiple teams will do two or three calendars in that year and one of the calendars. I happen to get one ear. Had a photo of the two thousand in the calendar calendar and I immediately got Grainy Long Lens Photo Mind you a real professional photo in the underground storage volt and I to this day. I'd like to confirm this but to the states. My belief that they turned a couple of tigers loosen there. The idea of this calendar was sort of these cars that didn't make it out or these hidden treasures mea culpa. I don't think it was any of that. I'd like to confirm it. I'm not I'm not sure about this but my sense. Is that a couple of photographers who were young. Were turned loose in that vault to photograph cars and then an art director. Who didn't know what they're looking at? Let it out there. But I immediately picked up the phone. And called Kerry Morris WHO's our editor at random and perhaps the most intelligent person I've come across on on Porsche Motorsport and race cars in the twenty years I've been in this game and so I called Carey and I said you won't believe what I'm looking at. And he said what I said. I'm looking at the two thousand in high resolution photos. Does he said where I said. It's an Porsche calendar. He said. Send me some photo. So I sent him some snapshots on the phone and he couldn't believe it either and so. I really wanted to get a good story to go with the car. Her and I had spoken to mcnish about it when I brought the calendar for his signature and he wrote on my county wrote the one that got away and then signed his name and I had actually talked to wallet before he died died about the car and he just got this big smile and all reports where the car was really really good but it only tested once vedic effectively at already made the decision to kill the program. Graham and Norbert Singer said can we run it at least test it and he said you can test at once and then it goes away and so the car disappeared and twenty years later. We finally got the story Randy laughing. Well told the story expertly and we asked Porsche. Would they bring the car back device. Oh for a photo shoot which is where it had been snapped that fateful day photography And then what we didn't know was that was the first time the carbon back to talk for twenty years and some of the people. We're working out with Porsche. Didn't understand they said well. Why can't you photograph it just here at the Museum Liam or why can't you photograph it over here in this parking lot said no no? It's important that we shoot advice off. It's important that we get it there and that took some work to get them over that Hump but they eventually and she transported the car of Device Hawk and got interesting email from the people involved and they said you know everyone advice. Ach was very interested in this car. They're wondering what is this car. Where did that come from? Why is is it here and could we maybe use these photos and so this is really fun of this because we ended up doing? What a probably fifty or seventy page article on that car and Porsche broke loose Archival documents and we were able to share those documents. The wind tunnel tests. The parts list did the parts of state of complete parts for this car. Almost complete parts slid it's amazing truly amazing and who triple-zero could have done that so we published the parts list for the two thousand took several pages we also published the test notes. We published published the internal notes of how many front ends they would need to go to the mall with how many of each parts and you get an I and this is what triple zero is really about you get an eye into how Porsche. Thanks and that for us is probably the most rewarding. Most interesting thing is to see how they go about their superiority. How do they go about making sure when they show up at Lama or race? It's a near foregone conclusion. That the win by leaving no stone unturned. Let's go to a break and come back and talk about some of those singular cars that have made a difference in our lives on medicine. Were still practicing. Join Dr Steven. Tailback and Bill Kurtis for real conversations. The medical professionals who have their finger on the pulse of healthcare in the modern world available on all your favorite podcasting platforms produced by Kirk. Oh media back with Pete. Stout Alex Pelewski with triple zero magazine. Let's jump back in. Of course Porsche lived on by the Cayenne however you look at that. I'm trying to remember now. I think it was in another interview by Kerry Morris with heart with Kristen and he asked him. Was that the right decision to cancel the Allenby two thousand. This is asking the musician. Was that the right decision to cut cut your guitar in half and Hartman. Kristen it's wonderful. Even in the words you can see that emotion and he says yeah in hindsight. That was the right decision. Was the right decision to cancel that car. But but the silver lining is that old phrase at Porsche. Nothing to waste. They cancelled the race program. But the silver lining was. They brought back that V ten in the basic concept of the album p two thousand became became the basis for the career. Gt Road Car and talk about another car that matters maybe one of the most pivotal cars of the decade. I know you're a Fan Pete. Well I would argue the last great analog unload car you know in terms of cars and supercars that's still last great supercar that's analog three paddles Manual Gearbox v ten nominees Dr needs to work and I remember the launch of that car and we were on together. Yeah with Walter Rural and what a what. A remarkable remarkable automobile is the one that was on the landing strip. Yeah Michelin proving grounds. So I can fill in some backstory for you. What happened when you drove to the airport and I stayed on? Do Tell so you may recall. Call that when we got there they had lost two of the six crazy ts to journalists from another wave so one of the cars were S- was spun by French writer and apparently the guy had spun it on on the slalom. And you remember. That slalom was on the MiG fighter base. Runway a huge runway for these make fighters no and we did the slow on exercise and here came Walter Rural and he said Pete you know what do you think because my first time driving. You did the same exercise and I looked at Walter. I said that's not a car you get in and go fast in out of the box and walters are learning curve definitely a learning curve. Waltham awesome people have unfortunately learned the hard way yes. It's not a boxster. It's not even an all wheel. Drive nine eleven turbo the courage. Et is a very high bar to get into. And so I looked at Walter. I said that's not Akari. Just get in and go fast and Walter nodded quietly and thoughtfully and then said yes. This is the right answer and then what I thought to myself was. Also slalom is one of the least useful tests for a road car. It's good for an engineer but often your life do you really slalom in in such tight quarters. Well one of the writers the day before we arrived even I arrived had looped it on the slalom and somehow managed to get all the way across the half of the runway to a post. That's quite an achievement. But he just barely missed. The Post didn't hit the back bumper and so he was okay. Now let's try it again now you and I normally if we had a day like that we'd say maybe stays not my day Maybe I'll cool out and apparently that same driver put it into a tree later afternoon. So that just raised desire just inflamed him and enraged him he was determined to smash that car up one way or another. Wow so the day before we got there the other car. Apparently so I've heard there was a shift and the last reading on the brain if I remember crew twelve twelve thousand RPM Martine five. No fourteen thousand good. If I remember correctly it was fourteen possible fifth to second guess instead of fourth so they were terrified when you and I showed up and if you might recall they made us drive behind Cayennes and other car. That's right and so That evening at the end of the day I suddenly Bob Carlson ashore. Who we both? I mean what incredible he was an ambassador of Porsche without question and also just a mentor on a lot of levels. Yeah he was a consummate professional. And so I saw Bob and there's moments in your life where you cash all the chips in and that's what I did hear. I cashed all the chips in and they said Bava got a price. Well why don't you just write about technology when you get home and I said we already did. That story was nine pages and he said well let me see what I can do. And he came back and he said all all the American journalists which. I'm sure you were one of those except for one other. Were leaving early in the morning. I think it was something. Eight seven thirty eight and he said be out five minutes after you guys gone so he should be out there at eight forty five. Let's say and so I go out on the steps just after you driven away and I wasn't allowed to tell the story back. Can I say all right this story and Bob said please don't in in the time please don't because that's right now. This is fifteen years later. I think we can talk about kind of like my husband's just left for work back doors open so red red nine six career to Cabriolet pulls up two thousand four ISH and out POPs this German Guy Rolfe and he pops up and I'd had lunch with Rolf the day before instead of eating with the journalists went over and eight with some Germans and it turned out he was this older guy. Who'd been there for thirty five years or something and he was on the weekends? He was a volunteer driving instructor in their track programs and he looked over the convertible top when he got you because he remembered lunch. And I'm always fascinated when people have been at Porsche for a long time. I've always cherished those conversations shore four and so I get a rare. We drive over to the closed. MiG fighter base. There's no mechanics anywhere to be seen and we get a career. Gt Am Emma. He takes me out of the out of the runway and we get out you know pass to one of the gates out on the road and he seems pleased that I didn't kill the coach. You know so we get going I think okay I still have to follow him. So it's still the same bummer the day before but maybe he's in a nine eleven. Maybe if I can convince him that I'm okay at this hill speed up so I'm going to pick a distance and I'll just stay always at that distance so I picked I think six or eight Carling's and I've just would would never vary the distance and as we got going. He started kind of stroke Google quicker than we got on the Autobahn. I thought here's your moment you can just get on it but I don't do it. Stay behind him. Stay behind this guy at six carling's and just see if he'll keep going quicker. We got off the Autobahn and I had changed the display. Play two miles per hour and this engine's making these insane. What a great? What a great sound vitanza sounds right off of the racetrack American Lhamo serious -perienced or would have been would have been? I mean it sounds better than a judd and that's saying something I mean. It's really quite an engine. Noise is screaming engine noise and pretty soon and I looked down. And we're doing one hundred and twenty miles an hour next to all these trees on a two lane road and we're hauling and get into town and I'm double clutch down shifting through the gears it sounds is insane and we come to a right hand turn stop sign and his door open sound. Oh I'm in trouble. And he looks back and gives me a big thumbs up and then slams his door and just floors out of this intersection in first gear. And he's gotta be doing. He's at eleven. tencent this thing ten ten so I don't know he's using all the career you know within reason we were on public roads. He's being smart about it but he's on it and I realized I didn't know how to get back into the closed. MiG fighter base. So I had to keep up in this guy's like passing. He's now quite exuberant. And he's passing like three or four card without him your loss so he gets on it. I realize I've got to follow him or I'm going to. I won't know how to get back fighter base and the guys just wholesale passing three four cars. It's safe but I mean keys in his space and it's one of the tricks about our business you know that's right you go over to another country those roads are you. Yeah you don't know all of their body language you don't know all of their mores all of all of the courtesies you're in a space. We may not understand every the street sign a right of way function differently. They're driving on the right side of the road. Correct on the correct side of the road and his former eastern Germany and they're still future bounce around absolutely absolutely so we get back to the fighter base and maybe one of the most surreal moments in my driving. History happens when we get through the Gate there I'm following him back back to the hangers. We're done with the drive and I've got plenty of impressions to write a story and we're going down the runway and the day before I did two hundred five miles an hour and the carb right royal was driving. That's real too because it was. I remember that motech between your legs. Yes motech between your legs so you knew it was a real to a five. But we're I'm driving behind him on the way back to the hanger and his Hazard Lights are on so picture this nine nine six point two cabriolet this nine eleven cabriolet sort of two thousand four era era and you're falling down. This fighter base runway and the hazard lights are on and I had this realization. I thought you know we're traveling on. That usually means fifty miles an hour. Twenty miles an hour fissile missile quicker. I looked down. We're doing one hundred sixty eight miles an hour and I didn't even realize it bets. It was only six miles per hour from his top speed. That's fantastic and the career. NJIT felt roughly appropriate to have hazard lights on like you were chocking from one. Parking lot to the next. That is an amazing story. Boy You had quite an experience in that car and one that few people have had because they're pretty rare these days and I suspect that most owners have never had an opportunity to exploit them like that. We'll be back after this break. I was introduced seven Richie decades ago and that was a Namur of his creations. Then and the justice impressed now stuffing our Ritchie's about style matters because it lasts the design. The craftsmanship Everything about everything he does is Made to endure. Porsche is not just about engineering. It's not just about racing his street. It's not just about the relationship between Porsche owners in their cars. It's also about design and one of the fundamentals of design is color right now you drive through the world especially here in La but at San Francisco to and I think just about everywhere and it's a sea of white black silver and grey cars. That's right colors have just disappeared. That's right and so one day. I got a text from Alex. I think everybody has somebody who sends them bombshell bombshell techs. I hope everyone has somebody who sends them bombshell texts. And Alex sends me a note and says I have a genius idea genus caps. I thought Oh boy. I can only go downhill hill from this tax. So what's going to happen when I call and I call Alex and he says we should do cars and coffee style gathering for porsches and paint to sample and I said his genius idea. Let's make make it a little bit more open and let's invite any Porsche in unusual color so going back to pretty much the beginning of Porsche. You had your colors that were in the brochure. Sure that you could pick from your set selection of colors but Porsche always allowed you to request from them. A collar that was not in the normal palate the normal tailable color Palette. And there's kind of two levels painted sample which I'll just touch on briefly but basically there's colors that already exists. But maybe we were from another model year and had been discontinued or came from another model but not the model that you're looking to buy. But you want the color from the other model on your model like the mint green from nineteen ninety-two what that would be an example. You know if you wanted to request that color on a new car and you see a few and you do see a few you. That's one example. The the true the truest kind of pure version of pain to sample is the ability to actually pick any color so at various points. Points in in Porsche's history. They've allowed you to come to them with a sample or A reference to another product. And say I want this exact color that what I'm pointing out today box exactly. It may not even be an automotive color. Maybe from some other product like a tiffany box. But that's the color that you want and often they will do it. Not always a really depends on the era and the model and a lot of other circumstances but in recent years you know the cats kind of been out of the bag about this whole paint to sample program for a long time. It was kind of known to the inner circle of Porsche people and it was always available but it was kind of hush hush from nineteen forty eight on or forty nine point nine eight early Nineteen Fifty S. You could do it. You can have them paint a card any color course Gore's role middle back then and there were no problems with having a big part of it. Yeah so at some point you know talking about that at some point I think Porsche decided that they needed to have a process to approve the color. They wouldn't just approve it when you request Germans. We're going process yeah. They wanted to do a feasibility. Study and figure out will this color. That's requested West. Live up to the standards that all our cars have to live up to so in recent years you you have to apply for the color that you want and then they will either approve prove it or reject it but once color has been approved than anyone else can order it. So in recent years as the pains of sample program has become more known and more four people have been requesting it. There's been a lot of talk about what colors should be picked and a lot of the challenge of the paint sample. The program is you don't really know what the color is GonNa look like on your car until it shows up and so you have to. In a lot of cases pick the color color blind. You may have seen the color on another model but that doesn't necessarily mean that that color is GonNa look the way you think it will on the model your select Pasha Washer reds one that stands out as being particularly Touchy Color to get right. Yeah and I had first inexperienced because I ordered Oak Green metallic car and I loved Okri. Oh cream metallic and the nine thirty and nine sixty four days. Yeah borders and when it showed up it was not clean like the seventies or nineties it had a gold undertone under the green and had uh-huh bit of golden it much like one of the arena reds. There's actually two arena read so badly lately at least two arena reds and that's another confusion that people have over colors guards. Red Is not doc guards. Read from start to finish guards red changes in seventies and nine name stays the same but the color changes. That's another complication. But anyway just to finish my point I wanted to help people who are in this predicament. which is a very fortunate predicament to be in? Having a first world first world problem of trying to figure out what colored select so the only real way to do it is to see a whole selection of colors in real life unreal cars so I thought if we could have this kind of gathering of people who have already done paint to sample colors or have colors that are rare that may qualify as colors that people would like to choose as a paint to sample Heller to be able to see these cars in the flesh would help a lot of people decide which way to go. Well I think that's it's a brilliant public service you're planning to do and I intend to join you guys with my car and hopefully a whole slew of Really Really Beautiful Beautiful Rainbow Rainbow of. What color is that car? It's golf blue. It's an important color to me. It's important Colorado Porsche for our listeners. The nine seventeens engulfed blew the John Wire cars ars Gulf blue and orange were hugely influential and Porsche's history as a mark can as a success in racing so Gulf blue as a very special color and porsche history. So it's a good choice. Well you know it resonates historically and personally and I'm thrilled that the PTA program was finally kick started back again you know the problem with PT. S.'s Well sometimes you can get it and sometimes you can't Porsche. Factory can be very mercurial in in their decision making. I'm sure they have their reasons. But you know if they can't get the side mirrors painted match match You've all of a sudden lost your place in line and you don't get that color. Well it's interesting. Alex City earlier in the program was on the inside and insiders were the ones ordering cars and special special colors for many years and the price of the program was fairly reasonable. You have a grand scheme a porsche. And he was four thousand dollars when you think about getting a factory paint job and the color of your choosing. That's pretty incredible and back. Then they also were eating it on the research so if you ordered up of you send your sport coat and said this green in the background here. I'd like I'd like a car in this color. They would then start working on that and they would do the feasability test to see if the mirrors the bumpers the medal. All these different materials would take the color or and and it wouldn't wear out badly. They're testing for that as well and more recently. They said we can't keep doing this. And so lately there's criticism that it's more paint to list as has alex mentioned than paint a sample because you're choosing what's available from what has previously been approved. You can still do. You can still apply for a new color. But it's probably not gonNA happen if let's say the G. Three touring comes out and you have your heart set on the particular color and you order it when the cars coming out. There's a very good chance it's not gonNA happen in that period of time that's right so there's that as a as a potential hurdle and then additionally as you noted there's times when they can produce them in times in the can't they do. The paint to sample cars in batches typically has a lot to do with what else they're making at the time. How busy the factory is? There's a lot of different factor in consumer demand and really the business model that suggested by the L.. In two thousand is GonNa not go into the race program because we have to bolster the company by introducing the Cayenne well and and so with they demand outstripped supply on paint sample and so they started to raise the price. Of course. People don't love that but at the end of the day porsches viewpoint is these cars should be special and my view is some of these. Gt threes recently. Paint sample. Really isn't rare. In some cases some of these in some cases some of the GT cars painted sample as a significant proportion of the total perceive. It seems to be so I always like to say the guards red is the new. So that's a really interesting interesting point. I saw a great looking. Eighty nine turbo in guards read the other day and I thought to myself man. That really was a signature. Look for that car. Oh absolutely the color and I wouldn't have taken a Red Carta saved my life few years ago but it's funny how things and kind of get under your skin and you can realize that. Sometimes there's a color that really embellishes and complements shaped like none other and that guards read really. Does it for that Porsche. The moving on you know we've talked a lot about the past Pete and Alex and obviously we could reminisce down nine eleven road all afternoon but Porsche obviously is looking forward and looking forward doing electric future. I know you're one of the few people who's had some experience with the ticon thus far. And what are your thoughts. Let's look at it from a standpoint of high points internal combustion when you're driving one of those that. Gt three touring in my opinion. That engine when I drove that engine and France. I thought this is one of the great engines you know despite its cylinder count this this is an engine to match as a masterpiece to fifty. Gto v Twelve and this is a six cylinder engine that will go toe to toe with the best engines from Ferrari and so the other one for me me as a high point in internal combustion with Porsche would be the TV ten and there are others you know. The current three liter twin turbo is very high mark. People don't realize just how good that engine really the is but the tycoon is something else entirely and people worry. Can Porsche Porsche without a gasoline in whitlow injured at all right with motors now and for me the change in perception heart came with nineteen spider. I spent about a thousand miles or so with one North Coast California. And it's a very funny thing. I driven them on. racetracks attracts short drives. And if somebody gives you ride in nineteen deaf as long as they're safe driver taking the ride Yudo forget that no the way. That car accelerates from zero to sixty year from five to sixty sixty is is just stunning. What those motors and the Torque? But what doesn't come through to you in the nineteen in white so important test cars over a long set of miles as myself and the other test test-drive noticed that the exhaust pipes are right behind your head and very high above above the engine very unusual. After a couple of hours it starts to sound like an awful speedboat. It's just it's just grading. Yeah after a few hours by said enough is enough is enough is too much All the way up the coast and so both the other driver and I were returning turning off the engine By going to full electric. And we've actually even charged so that we can turn off the engine right right. It's like hoof. There was one thing I really liked liked about that and that was when you come into some of the North Coast towns in. Gt three or courage. They know they've heard you coming for miles. And they all get dirty. Looks the brilliant thing about the nineteenth you could be hauling up the coast on these curvy sections and then you come into this little itty bitty town that maybe loves practices and not so much porsche and you click into electric mode and you just drive right through and they they're silently you drive through silom right so you don't know that that was you that they heard coming up the coast but I also found we brought for triple zero. We brought a boxster spyder ninety seven which is a car. That's near and dear to both of our heart. Yeah so phenomenal car. I wanted the simplest car and in nineteen which is the most it's complex convertible and so I wanNA measuring stick to be the purest Porsche. Sports car you could have in the modern era and that was at that time the nine eight seven boxster Speier so we switch back and forth. We're going through a section and the other driver was quite good quite quick on a back road and I was in the nine eighteen at one section and he was in the boxster spyder behind me and I clicked in the power our mode and the challenge became the not used more than two-thirds throttled because around there the eight kicks in help and the car was so enjoyable in electric only mode and and I heard things I've never heard before I heard wheel bearings I heard I heard suspension. That's what spooked me. The first time I drove one. I'm hearing all these sounds SIS. What is half? It was at my my vacuum cleaners at my dishwasher. What are these noises? I can't really understand what's going on here. It's so eerie. It's almost like hearing your own. Blood pump oh you're inside of an MRI machine or something hearing giant wheel bearings out there on the carriers. You're hearing the Anti Roll Bar. You're hearing all these things. Some of the sound sound sound like something out of Predator the movie. Yeah I mean some of the sounds are really odd. And you're hearing the tires on the pavement and what I found however was it felt like like your harnessing an energy that you had collected from the world from your environment and repurposing it. It felt a lot like sailing to me. It felt a lot like when you're out out on the sailboat with someone who knows what they're doing and you're taking something that's of the world and you're harnessing it and using it for your purpose and I grew love the feeling of it and I will say that Pete Pete who is behind me in his boxster spyder car very well. Good track driver. I trust them on any test. He was moving and he had to work at it to keep up with the nineteen on electric electric. Only and what that Dr did was. It opened my mind at the idea that electric could be interesting. That electric only so many of our colleagues are saying this nine eighteen so so heavy thirty seven thirty eight hundred pounds of big heavy and big and we had so many of our colleagues say. I'd like to try this car with hybrid gear and I remember thinking. No no no because because we had lots of those from coon Taj and Muros door doubter. The ferraris down to a Lotus Elise had this concept of a gasoline engine in a mid engine sports car car. But we've never had this hybrid concept. We don't need another rehash of that old. I love those cars. I love those simple sports cars. But the nineteen point was to break new ground around and it did and open my mind what what could I'd like to know instead of wondering with nineteen would be like without the hybrid gear. I want to know what it'd be like without the V.. Eight that's right. I wanted to know what the car would be like without the gasoline into wit. We have the gun so here we are. And that's how I approached the Taikang when I went and visited porsches North North American headquarters in Atlanta two weeks ago and we got a tour around the car. I think going to surprise people when they see this cars. How low it is? It's extremely low. The point that they actually made what they call foot. Garages or feet. Garages in the skateboarding. The skateboard is underneath the cars where the batteries are right and the center of gravity. Hello and that's how you have to design electric car and effectively deleted the cells where rear passengers feet would go under the driver's seat the front seats just just to get the rear passengers had lower so they could lower the roof. So it's not a so it's not a pan-american but more real coupe shape and then they also got rid of the structure. The the cross beams in the roof to also lower the roof. And when you stand next to this car the car I saw the room was black with black wheels and prototype disguise but I had seen it in so many photos and I still wasn't ready for how low the car was in person and how wide and you will not expect it as a sedan the sedan. It doesn't feel sedan when you're around it when you're standing around it so it's actually a four door coupe. We've been promised all these four door coupe. Shore back since release released their way back when this might actually be a four door. I can't get there the coop or coop thing drives me crazy but the reality is this car feels more nine eleven than sedan. Dan in its proportions. It feels very low and so then it was also Erie when they were telling us what was going to happen next and they're finishing the press presentation for black tie cons. Hons drove by the curtains. And you could just catch a sliver of them and they wandered up to pick us up to take us out on the track and I saw them. Go by the sliver. Now this is something else too because every one of these presentations have done something like this. You hear the cards show up and you heard nothing. You'RE GT three touring it's GonNa you're gonNA hear it show up and I got to say there's something kind of cool about a car are approaching silently. There's something very stealthy like a funeral procession without the dead. Yeah exactly and so. They took us out on track. And I knew we would be guinea pigs for these drivers and so I had heard was a racing driver but I had no way of knowing which one was the racing driver side just had to pick a car so I got in the back seat of one of the cars and so I went down and and you didn't have a guarantee that the driver you drove down to the track with would be the driver who drove you on track and so I watched the four cars to confirm who was the racing driver. And you could just tell with this. One driver Thomas that he was that bit cleaner collecting slide. That he was he was just that bit more ferocious and so as I was watching him. go by thought. That's the guy you know. I'M GONNA wait till the end if I have to. But that's the one to ride with and the P. C. Atlanta track which you've probably been on his pretty tight. There's not OUGHTA run off. It's a pretty. It's a pretty tight place at the test track more than it's not a test track. It's more of an experience track right but for me the thing that wasn't as wild the zero to sixty around three seconds or under. There's cars that do that. Nor that's everybody stock in trade. Now it's it's a party trick. There's no there's no driver involvement in that there's no anybody can and do it right quite literally. Anyone can do it but the way this car went through the back part of that track which is tight twisting up down off Camber Camber over it went through those Korenets. Five thousand one hundred pounds. which when I heard so dispirited but I didn't realize that way that much that's a big girl if it's over fifty one hundred pounds while but when it went through that back section the very tight section it felt like my old nine fourteen in the Berkeley hills amazing? Well it's way down low and its power to every wheel and by by the way every single wheel has it's own agenda right. The driver was exceptional as this particular driver was an exceptional driver but the way that the car attacked a right left right left over over rising crests the way it dealt with those quick hit turns. The transitional agility blew my mind and I'm very curious curious to see if that translates from behind the wheel. My sense is that it will. My sense is that this is something new and that has an enthusiast. I'm not against against it if it was replacing your gt three or my old Weber carburetors. If in order to embrace the Taikang you had to give up those things. I would have a different approach first this but as a daily vehicle. It's quite intriguing. It sounds like they've actually stepped up the bars they are always inclined to do. And the Ubiquitous Tesla Mason become the equivalent of the ubiquitous. Prius and worship will take center stage. We'll see I don't see to the Tesla killer the price. The price is much higher than I thought it would be. First of all prices quite high the turbo starts. And then there's the whole naming their discussion. Yeah just as four door drive me crazy and calling it. A turbo is a little bit anachronistic mystic as well but you know some people fired back on on Tuesday you know Elon. Musk famously trolled Porsche. Saying I don't think Porsche realizes what turbo means and a a bunch of his followers as well as critics fired back with. We're not sure eland understands what the term super charger means. And then the Germans apparently fired back with we have a different understanding ending of of the definition of funding secured. So I look at all. This is kind of fun. I think it's great that there's a little bit of a rivalry going with Porsche. And and Tesla and the reality is Tesla's ahead on several fronts. They're heading range and their head on infrastructure for charging and all of this so you know the the ball is in portions court. It's got to perform. I think it will with time. It'll be interesting to see how Porsche does. Is it. EVOLVES MODEL line and it goes down market with regular base ticon and the forests us and maybe a gts right what will happen next. And also the potential to use this technology. We were talking about entry points earlier to use this same electric technology allergy in a pure sports car at a lower price point which might bring a lot of new people into the brand could be a new box turtle some ways Najan you know boxster or even smaller like the size of the original boxster but in fully electric powered. That could be a great way to you know not only appeal to true porsche enthusiasts who might want a car like that but a lot of new buyers who are looking for something electric. That's also a fun weekend car. That's right and they don't have to buy into the program with one hundred thousand dollars. which is what you have to do? Now if you harass something fully dialed well thanks so much for coming in and just touching the tip of the Porsche Iceberg. There's so much to talk about. And this is an open invitation to have you and triple-zero magazine back for another conversation enjoyed it. Well this is great. Thank you so much Robert. Thank thank you thank you pete. Stout and Alex Pelewski from triple-zero magazine for joining us on cars. That matter join me next time to continue talking about the passions the drive us in the passions. We drive this episode of cars. That matter was hosted by Robert Ross produced by Chris Porter sound engineering by Michael Kennedy theme. Song by Celeste. And Eric Dick Recorded Kerckhove Malibu podcast studios additional music and sound by Chris Porter quarter. Today's guests were Pete. Stout Alex Belovezhsky tune into cars matter. Wherever you rub up your podcasts? I'm Robert Ross. Thanks for listening thome media media for your mind.

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#986  Praying for Those Serving Others (Psalm 112)

Pray the Word with David Platt

04:54 min | 6 months ago

#986 Praying for Those Serving Others (Psalm 112)

"Pre the WORD WITH DAVID. Platt is a source from radical dot net SOM- chapter one hundred twelve verses one and nine. Psalm. One hundred twelve versus one opens up and says praise the Lord. Blessed is the man who fears the Lord who greatly delights in his commandments. And then down in verse nine after all these other descriptions of the man or woman who fears the Lord and Delights in the commandments of God. Verse Nine says he has distributed freely. He has given to the poor. His righteousness endures forever. His Horn is exalted in honor so we are applying the word during these days. To specific prayer requests people are sending in at radical dot net slash prayer. Request the deal with this global pandemic. Encourage you to continue to send those in but I wanna read what Porsche wrote. Porsche road I live in Idaho. Falls and work is a bus driver for district ninety three. I'm volunteering to deliver meals Monday through Friday. Two children who usually eat at school but because school is canceled and families or quarantined. There bagging lunches. So that these children who would otherwise go without food have a meal. Porsche goes on to talk about the number of kids that she serves and she knows by name and she has opportunities to not just share a meal with but to share the gospel with not only kids but their families then Porsche appraise that God would get all the glory from these meals that are being distributed and I just think about Matthew five thirteen hundred sixteen just thinking about salt and light that people may see good deeds glorify God and Heaven and then I think about Psalm. One twelve and the marine it again. Blessed is the man or woman who fears the Lord who greatly delights and his commandments. He is distributed freely. He has given to the poor. I want a picture of fearing the Lord Loving God the lighting in his commandments. Leads us to distribute freely to give generously to those who are in need around us. I see so many evidences of this in the church that I have the privilege of pasturing is as members across the church stepped up to serve and so many different ways at risk into read. What Porsche is doing as a bus driver volunteering to do this so I want us to pray for Porsche for many like Porsche? Who were doing this kind of work on a continual basis knowing and I should mention just like we sat in the church pastor over and over again not. Everybody should be doing this work. Many are more at risk health wise and need to be sheltering in place all the more but for those who might be able and obviously with wise precautions but but to distribute freely and to give generously to those in need. This is indeed glorifying. God so God we pray right now together almost for Porsche. We thank you for your grace in Porsche. We pray that you would bless her and all the work. She's doing Every single day when she gets into that bus we pray that you would lead. Guide her steps that she would know you were with her and that every single one of those kids and those families who receives meals from her the day would see her and give you glory in a Matthew Five fourteen through sixteen Kinda way. God God please may be so and God please bless numerous others who are listening right now. You're giving time attention resources. During these days to distribute freely to give generously to others who are in need God some through their work obviously as we have prayed and continue to pray doctors and nurses and grocery store workers and just so many other people who were doing all kinds of work during these days for others good and then others who are volunteering. Totally apart from their jobs that do that. God We pray that you would help us as your people all the more during these days but global pandemic God help us to distribute freely and to give generously for the good of many people and ultimately we pray for the glory of your name in Jesus name we pray Amen.

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Genesis G80 + Porsche Targa 4

CarCast

48:52 min | 5 months ago

Genesis G80 + Porsche Targa 4

"You're listening to castle car. Cast on podcast one. A Hey guys. We've got fun episode of Car Cast for today. We're going to talk a little bit about what's going on with the EU and there are new fuel economy standards and what Porsche thinks of that as well as dig into the new Porsche. Targa and a couple of Thanksgiving update on the Ford lightning truck as well that we've got working on but before we get started a a word from our friends at Geiko though we're apart these days we are sharing more and Geico just wants to say thanks for doing that. Thanks for sharing your dance moves. Thanks for sharing your. Diy Haircut fails thanks for sharing your inner lip sing star. Now it's GEICO's turned a share to the GEICO with GEICO give back. It's a fifty percent credit on car and motorcycle policies for current and new customers and because GEICO's committed for the long haul the fifteen percent credit last the full term of your policy just visit Geico dot com slash. Give back that's GEICO DOT com slash. A hello welcome to car cast. I'm matt the Motivator de Andrea. Our Buddy Bill. Goldberg is On the road. He's doing a little bit of travelling a little bit of work stuff going on right now so I called the call my good friend Brad fanshawe. Brad's my co host on shifting steer. So a lot of you guys already familiar with Brad. If you'RE NOT WELCOME BREAD BRADSHAW FRED. Also owns bond speed. Wheels said. He made the wheels for my ninety. Three Cobra. Made the wheels for my lightning which keep popping up on instagram and people like what are those like. Yeah we made bill versions of the stock wheels. We've made five thousand dollar set of wheels. That look like three hundred bucks. Thanks for Thanks for joining us. Bill move to Coburg move to move to Texas as our listeners. Know but of course part of that process meant selling his ranch down in southern California. He's got the three properties on one big giant Combo. Lot and his house was there in his big mega garage in the gym. And it's all the famous photos that you see online. If you Google works garage you see the big garage and stuff and he sold it and completed his move to Texas which is very excited about and he's back at the old house. It sold these just I guess signing the deal or cleaning up a few things or whatever so glad that's Kinda done especially nowadays right. We're a everyone's kind of locked down quarantines kind of an odd time to to do a transaction like that but it's good it's there but we've got some good show for you today Before we begin. We're GONNA remind you about our friends at dodge. A dodge is offering power dollars and for every horse power of your new dodge vehicle purchase. You'll get ten dollars off so peeling out in a two thousand. Nineteen Dodge charger. Rt Scott Pack. Hey No problem you just got four thousand five hundred eighty bucks off speaking of dodge. We'll probably get into this more next week. I know we've done a lot here. Probably on shifting steer next week we can talk about it more. But I'm driving. I'm driving the dodge charger. Hell Cat wide-body and hell cat. We've driven before but now this is the wide-body Brad. You're with us out at spring fast. I think a year ago we were at the track in in Pomona. Mona Yeah We were out there for the big par of hint and we met up at the guy from speed core. We saw that a carbon-fiber charge her and And the guys from From Dodge were debuting still wrapped in the camouflage print the charger wide-body and then that car that was there on display was the bright blue car it was just wrapped. Camouflage we didn't know it was blue black and white everything going. Yeah and so and then like a month later the TV commercial came out of the Blue Charter. Wide-body and It's the Muscle Villains Goldberg. It's got I forgot who is doing the The drifting I believe was doing the drifting for well. That was the same car and after we did that that Spring Fast Gobert filmed the commercial with that car. So now we've got the production version of it Goldberg already owns nine of them. I have no idea is one Taylor. A quarter of the market is and well and he took his other charter. I think he took the The Slab Side Charter. Hell Cat and sent that down to the gearhead fabrications guys and and speed core I think they did a full carbon wide-body on it but the SP- The gearhead fabrication guys are taking off the super charger doing twin turbo. Like we saw in the bag flow booth we saw that that blackout murdered out all wheel drive with the four slicks on it that a charter booth. But he's doing a to drive version. Fifteen hundred horsepower. I just drove this car on the way here. Seven hundred dollars. Power getting on the freeway. It's like turning on and hitting the gas and the tail is sliding around with seventy seven horsepower. Fifteen hundred is going to be completely useless at a couple of weeks ago when you could use it. Allah freeways right in. La are already starting to jam up. They are it's it's in the morning now so we My drive in here was wasn't wasn't too bad but you know the one thing they have to do with these guards. Yeah have come up with some acronyms because the names are getting to be like. Some company was a bad domain name. They've got it so long. You can't remember because you start getting held cat and red eye all these there's a dodge challenger Hella cat red eye wide-body exactly. That's what I mean. I think the only other one that I would be would be like the land. Rover Range Rover auto biography dynamic. Or something like that. I think is one of the Big Ranger. We drove it. I don't know we drove it but some company that goes. Oh my website. Just find us on our website at such dynamic match carbon fiber products made in England. Take you advocated. Start typing it in and then go back matured in spell right but always comes to the top though. Let's let's get into a little bit of news and and and you know maybe some truck updates. Let's start with the truck. Update 'cause that's that's the fun stuff. So many of these aftermarket companies Brad included over feed wheels. Everybody's shutdown even with some limited capability. You guys can you can come in and you can feel the few orders and stuff on your own. Factory is still shut down. So we've been telling me correct you there. We reopened on Monday with a half crew are starting to get some of the older orders process and geared towards full production in about one and a half two weeks. So yeah you was is good and car dealers are starting to open up now. And although some of the service centers were some of the elective. If you will services were not for example our friends over at gas GALATA sports. They've been doing some stuff on my truck but they were closed for a while and they're just starting to reopen. They're catching up on on. Some orders and their shop is full. Their shelf is always full. By the way they they work on every make and model over there and And they opened up. Porsche Santa Clarita. It's the new gallon Porsche dealer and already gas has portion. It every seems like every every car they sell it dealer ends up at gas. I and they're getting rap or custom wheels or even just like clear. Bra like a pain protective film like they're just doing everything already over there. So Michael My business partner Mike Lamp and he dropped his Ford. Gt off the week. Everything close down over at Galveston for some warranty work. Yeah and Warranty work that ended up having to pay for because there were some items that went wrong on it. Not Because Galvin. Just that car is no miles. Yeah he keeps it in perfect condition and needed new rear a arms because the bushings had gone away but he just got it back because as you said they just re open and he was finally car. I believe I saw the car there a while ago and I saw that he posted on on instagram. The car that he's got back the shop which you guys got a nice set of speeds. We had here a couple of years back. We had. Yeah we had the Michael Anthony's Ford. Gt over here. Along with your El Camino. I'm bringing the truck back over there. We talked about the vehicle speed sensor not really working and I got a new spent sensor and you have to like kind of file it down. And you close the gap between the magnet on that sensor and the tone ring which is in the rear differential. I did that. It helped but it didn't completely fix the problem. So now we know have to do a tone ring and then I. I ordered up the tone ring. I knew we had to take the rear differential part. Had to take the axles apart. So I called up the guys Mark Williams and We measured the entire thing measured the whole differential housing and and whatnot and then had mark Williams. Customers Cassette Axles for me Ups has delayed them three times already. Supposed to be on Friday and Saturday then Monday Tuesday and here. We are in the Wednesday. I don't have them yet. So hopefully hopefully today. So got the new axles tone ring. Got The new sensors. They're going to do that in the Rear Gif. They're also going to UH WE'RE GONNA tackle this steering issue and this is it's it's an issue but it's something where we were trying to come up with on our own. The steering on the truck is the Ford steering box. I think the ratio's like seventeen to one. Obviously it's old and then the steering shaft has believe just a rag joint at the end which is a a rubber bushing that often wears out especially with vehicle. That's heavy or a few put a lot of miles on our even in a a sports car with a rag joint steering you can do one track day and basically wear that thing down so it's fine on the street. Absorbs VIBRATION FOR ANYTHING PERFORMANCE oriented? You want to eliminate that so I could not for the life of me get the the Stock Ford Steering Box. Rebuilt to be quick ratio. Nobody remakes the gears different sizes in that steering box so I called up flaming river and I ordered up one of their. Let's say universal quick ratio steering box. Says it's completely new box. It's actually really expensive. It's almost a thousand bucks and billet is yeah it is kind of cool does have a cast piece and build pieces on it and it's it's completely new. There's nothing rebuilt about it. So it's universal but it's made for a lot of early. Gm vehicles and jeep. There was one steering box that fit a bunch of vehicles jen one Camaros and some GPS and things like that so they figured if they make that box it would fit so many things and they were right. And what is I? I got a Ford steering box from the truck I ordered one up so I can measure without having to take my truck apart and take it off the road order to Ford Steering Box. Put next to the river box and we went measured everything. The four box mounts with three bolts. We knew that the box with four bolts so we would have to make some sort of change but it turns out. The dimensions of the box are pretty much exactly the same and the SP blind counts for both the pitman arm and the steering shaft are the same. So there's no issue there and the how far the shaft the pitman arm sticks out is roughly the same so if we can mount this in the same exact location everything else should bolt up to it. No problem But we have to go onto the truck. We have to cut the frame where there's the three bolt mounts because they kind of protrude out so it's not like it's flat and there's just holes in the frame it has standoffs a scam pinpoint. It is so we'll we'll pull the stocks during box off will cut the frame will make a new standoff. That's four bolt and then welded into the frame painted up a look completely factory. And then I have a new forged. High Strength Forge. Pitman arm ritual. Go on since we're in their might replace it. And then the steering shaft. I got a universal collapsible steering shaft from Flaming River. And I got the joints for both ends and then we'll cut it to fit and now there's no more rag joint just what you normally see in a bunch of the racing cars in your race car but one thing you did say that. It's real critical. There is that everything should work. I said that any inside and try these trucks. It's probably got two inches of slop like left to right in the steering before it even goes anywhere and then and then it's like four. I don't know four and a half turns lock to lock and this. This should eliminate the slop for the for the most part and then bring it down about a two and a half turn lock. It's GONNA be a difference. It will make it incredibly differ on my El Camino big full by oil. I told you that we took all that away and did exactly what you're doing but we I was able to find a GM. There was a macho. Transam made back in the seventies and it is a direct replacement and when they made the Macho addition. It was two and a half turns. Lock the lock from the fact. Yeah and so. It was a direct swap up. The hard part was finding a macho transam because they were so rare and to find one wreck. But I was able to do that and the difference like you said gone from you. Know just won't won't it's just yeah you're GONNA love it you're GonNa love it. Yeah well that's good. I'm excited about doing that. It's going to go in next week. It's going to take. I don't know two weeks of downtime to get all that stuff done also. There was a leak in one of lines on the on the ACC. So we're just replacing everything that's in their trucks. Scott one hundred on one hundred and one thousand miles on it and there was a leak in the line and in my mind that always means there's potential for liberal contamination in the system so it just seemed like the right time go ahead. Let's swapping all new condenser newly lines Receiver Drier. Just do just do everything at once. It's a couple of bucks extra but might as well just kind of get it done new so all that stuff is going to be done. That should be. That should be exciting to get that back sort of the next step and then get back on the road and drive it. A little bit may bring back down to your your shop. Get THOSE CENTER CAPS. You're making for me. They're done engraving shop over opens back up. We'll pick out there anyway. Let's get into some more news. I'm not sure if you've seen Did you get a chance to drive? Any of the genesis vehicles. We had a g seventy at one point which was kind of fun it was sporty. They got the G eight the G ninety which was the bigger boys. I don't know if you if you drove in each one of them the seventy and it's I mean I was surprised i. I was awarded with so much more gratification than I expected. Sometimes it's better than expected a whole lot and being disappointed. They've done a nice job with those vehicles. Really have they have in the redesign g? Eighty is is coming out pretty soon recently announced a virtual like all the announcements for happing happening. Now and it's it's pretty sharp looking. I mean the whole light treatment and the front is interesting and I've seen it in a few different colors. I kinda like it more in the silver that I do in this. This other color is sort of this blue green kind of thing that they're doing this color shifting. It looks like that you know that. Mystic CHROME COLOR SHIFTING PAINT. That was on the most like. Oh four or something A few other people have done that color. There's something about the photos that are posted. It looks like it's that color and I really like it. But it's a good looking. It's a good looking car and it's it's really starting to feel like it's kind of an upscale bit you know like the interior and stuff has got a bit of. Mercedes and stuff going on now. It's a it's nice and the Genesis. We've always kind of liked. Because if if you're not a brand SNOB. This is a nice car for less money than the competition. The eighty which is mid sized luxury sedan starts at forty eight thousand bucks and which is way below their competition in that in that opening area. Yeah I WANNA say the Audi Mercedes like an a six Audi Mercedes e. three fifty. Bmw Five series. They all start in the mid fifties fifty four fifty five. So this is this is GonNa be quite a bit less. I'm going to imagine that that the genesis probably pretty well equipped at that price. I I don't know. It has a huge Allah cart menu of. There's probably a tech package premium package. Something along the lines of that and then naturally an interior package and things like that that you can get. I don't know I think it's when you compare it to the competition. It's more power and less cost overall. What you're getting. It seems. Yeah it'd be interesting to try. I kind of like it. It's good looking vehicle. I don't know who the audience is. I guess you want that luxury vehicle. You wanted a little more affordable again. You're not a brand SNOB. So you can pick up pretty nicely. We had a pretty allaster weaver from edmonds on a while ago. And he's spoke highly of the Genesis Brandon. Those vehicles pretty could but the resale value still wasn't wasn't there so his suggestion. I believe at the time was if you're looking to lease say Nice luxury vehicle. That's a good way to do it with a pretty small lease payment because the overall price of the vehicle is less. Or if you're looking to buy one get it used even get it something you know fifteen eighteen thousand miles on it twenty thousand miles on it. Get it used. And you'll save a bunch of money even more than than getting the more affordable luxury car so buying a new one outright isn't quite there yet but you know I guess it kind of fits. What everybody plan is what everybody's budget is? But that was his recommendation. You've seen the we've talked about the new Porsche. The nine two a you know we talked about the new Porsche. Turbo S which Again Alison chance to drive. He's got a couple of videos on Edmunds in regards to that. We saw the new nine. Elevens I think year ago at L. A. Auto Show and there's been some interesting portion news one of my favorite cars. The nine eleven body styles is the TARGA. And we've had the nine eleven we've had the ASS. We have the two wheel drive in the four wheel drive the all wheel drive the forest and the turbo s and on the new platform and now they just released the targa and it is fantastic. It is gorgeous and they're doing the same ideas they did as the previous generation. Targa it has the power soft top in the Middle. And if you really look at that car the one of the reasons why. Looks Beautiful. Not just the you know the blade that goes across the separate the roof bar. Yeah the target bar on the previous one day where they were like a brushed silver right like brushed aluminum stain. Almost yeah and then the GTS came default with the Black Tar bar by when you build a GTS on the configuration on their website. You could you can opt to go back to to the brush. Stainless look if you wanted to. But they just try to differentiate the GTS between the two by default by changing the different colors But the rear glass is beautiful piece of glass that starts off the side quarter windows and and Ben's into a rear glass in into one piece so your rear visibility in that car is better than the normal cars and it looks fantastic. And it's nice to see that they're continuing with that. Also you can get those with a manual transmission like the normal nine elevens and the fours so I like the idea of that now my my favorite car and the previous lineup was the porsche nine. Eleven GTS four Targa and you can get it with a manual transmission the GTS gave it the centre lock wheels like on the turbo ass. And and but you can get it with a seven speed manual what you can't get in the turbo and the terrible ass And it has the Nice. Gts bits the Alka Tara. You know there's a lot of standard options that come with the GTS kind of make it bang for the buck. And you're somewhere like I know. Sixty or seventy thousand dollars less than the turbo money right and so I always thought that would be a really really cool car to have so. This new target is gorgeous. There is like I said the the standard nine eleven and the ass but there isn't a gts there isn't a GTS in the current lineup yet. Point I'd like to see a GTS at some point but it's it's nice now that the one thing that does is it does have a tendency in my opinion to suffer from some color combinations. I there's a guy down the street from me in my neighborhood that has all black was black. Targa bar and it's the configuration that you were talking about. Is that long domain name. It yet but it looks spectacular but then I was down in Newport and I saw one and I can't remember what color was it was an odd color like a blue or something and it just didn't it was like to talk about almost stuck out too much with the silver and I know a eastern zone right but I think sometimes Less is more and that all black look so wicked when I see him coming down the hill. Yeah it's tough to notice that if the block has the black bar like on the GTS. Yeah it's tough to tell its target. You're just looking at it going. Hey this not eleven looks good. I like the rear glass. I like the shape of it. And it's got little black to pay for a soft top which is which is addressing but from a distance. You wouldn't even know that it was was a targa opened up and it looks good at the thing is is a big wheels centre lock wheels. Everything looks yeah so that is the GTS. That's nice. That's a nice one. That's he's probably spent one hundred and sixty thousand on that one that configured. But it's not. It's not turbo money. Which is two hundred plus down? They keep going up in price. So all the Porsche's now. We talked about have turbo engines but the naming convention is we have whatever nine eleven we have an ass we have the GTS. We have a TURBO TURBO S. That's that's now. Just sort of the upscale diversion the more powerful version but they all have turbo on it and of course we talked about this as well but the Thai can take in tight taken. Isn't it ticon tight? Ticon RHYMES WITH ICON corner. Okay icon. That's a just a pure vehicle as you guys know but there was a turbo ass and then that are in the four ass or whatever the base model is that our current did you malls. I believe are four ass at a terrible ass but obviously no turbo on the just. That's just the name now right. It's sort of like saying it's a m five instead of five series or am versus versus the non mg versions of the car so They've all got the turbo power on it now. But what's interesting is new rules coming into place. These are emissions rules coming into place in Europe all the E U Rules and these are kind of wacky right. So they're saying we're GONNA put a limit on how much power and engine can make per leader right so if you went with a three liter twin turbo making good power four hundred and fifty horsepower in in your in your vehicle. Great Little Sports car package smaller engine lighter weight more efficient well the EU is saying. Oh no no. We don't want you to make that much power you'd have to make a bigger engine to make more power and like why this is stupid. Why would you do that? We can make smaller more efficient engines. And their argument is is they think they're gonNA force car companies to move towards hybrid and electric drive trains right by saying. Oh we're going to force you to not make an efficient gas engine so us more electric drive train. But that doesn't work for some companies that are specialty sports car companies like Porsche. Does I think they saw? I don't know something about ninety. Five hundred nine eleven year. It's not it's very profitable for them and it's an important part of the brand but they they sell a lot of SUV's they're going to sell a bunch of the electric cars so whereas the current Porsche has a great packaging of a small turbocharged engine with a lot of power the next version of the nine eleven and twenty twenty six will have to step up to a larger engine. They'RE GONNA have to go back to something like a four leader engine because to make the horsepower that they wanna make without any sort of hybrid drive. Train increase everything they. The government forcing them to go in. The Opposite Direction is seems weird. Right. I'M GONNA make a prognostication here too though Matt. I believe that code has changed everything and I think as long as that's not too far down the road at this point we might see changes just like la who said we couldn't have plastic bags at the grocery stores. I mean that was neto but now we got plastic bags. They're encouraging a jake. We're seeing a lot of these things. People that wanted mass transit now. They want to go to individual cars. Because it's safer I think. And what getting out is that? I think the e you will recognize that there's been such an economic you know weight on the shoulders of all the manufacturers that they might start hauling back on a little bit that yeah so a company like Porsche can afford to make this change their profitable operation over there. I believe they are. I don't see why they wouldn't be But but yeah for this rule to apply to a lot of other car companies it. It's it's tough you've got imagine. They've got people up on the hill. Whatever their hill is lobbying going. I don't know we we want to do this We should come up with a better plan. And they're they could. There's a compromise they can say. Hey we'll still meet the EU like fleet MPG standards and and and whatnot and we'll still do it cleaner and we'll still invest in hybrids and EVT's but we want to make small more efficient engines for our sports cars right. The guy from Porsche said that the catalytic converters on these larger engines twenty twenty six. Because we haven't even gotten there yet. He said they're gonNA have to be so huge. It's like it's to like what the that Cadillac Is going to be expected to do? Is going to be way beyond what we're doing now and by car getting pretty clean right like Oh yeah you go into a parking garage and your new car sitting there running idling you've you don't notice. Some guy runs through the sprints through there with a leaf blower a gas edge leaf flower. And you're going to be choking to death right that has got to be spewing far more emissions than any other car on the road. And He Kerr made in the last two decades it's gotta be way cleaner than than than any leaf blower out. They're not always size. You can't let me converter but the way I mean those things are heavy. Yeah so they're going to have to do some adjusting there because you know they. The wait is such a factor on everything speaking of weight. I want to talk about this big giant. Bmw X. Seven the largest SUV with the world's largest kidney grille out there before we do that another reminder from our friends at at Dutch so I guess dealers opening which is fantastic so visit your local dodge dealer or they bring you performance technology and great deals. There's never been a better time right then right now because dodges offering power dollars with power dollars you'll get ten dollars off for each horse power of your new car. So every twenty nine thousand nine dodge charger every twenty one thousand nine challenger doesn't matter that means you could pull away in a twenty one thousand nine hundred dodge charger. Rt Scott Pack with four hundred eighty five horsepower and received almost five thousand dollar cash allowance. So if you get more power you get more off. It's that simple. Hurry into your local dodge dealer today or just give them a call or send them an email whichever you wanna do and take advantage of dodge power dollars okay so BMW X. giant SUV. I don't WANNA I don't Wanna be too wine about this but we used to have create relationship with BMW test a lot of the cars. I know we've got the one that you know. I got my supercharge m three. We've owned a bunch over here and I think fans really liked that car. I think people that listen to the show. WanNa hear about some BMW stuff we we drove them five. Rejoined them for over a number things and I wanted to get into the new seven series. A car I wanted to get into the new x seven And know it's like a year or so ago I sent an email to BMW. And they said we've we've shifted our focus and we're not sure you guys hit her audience so I guess I'm a little surprised by that. Maybe they know our audience better better than I do. But if if you're listening to the show and you're interested in BMW's let me know. And I'll I'll hit him up again but I have not driven the X. Seven because I have not given the opportunity to drive the seven. It looks kind of cool. I like the idea of full size. Suv The three road. The big one like why wouldn't they have a big boy? Mercedes has Alexis has atoms infinity. eighty big three row when he got it. He's like oh it's it's it's pretty big and now he's been driving for while loves it loves it. We were driving around in at this weekend with to be said about the big SUV. I give you that that just that mass and if you have to haul anything Utah vote. Yeah I but no it really does the and and I'm with you I'm driven. Bmw and in quite some time. Because you know it. It's just a Unavailability years ago I was doing this This charity racing event at Irwindale speedway around the oval there and during one of our practice sessions I was driving The the BMW BE SEVEN. Alpina seven so it was don't make an M. version of a of of the seven series. But they let me that car and after our training session in these these these stock cars in the race cars out there I hit the guy was like well. We're all shutting down or you turn the lights office at night on the track. I said I want to do a couple of laps in the P. Seven he's like I don't care go ahead so a buddy of mine the card and we were got that That big seven series over one hundred miles an hour going around the Oval Eddie Irvine. Del Maybe that's why. Bmw STOCKS SENDING US cars. I could say that could be at either as well. Maybe they. Maybe they found out about that but listen. A- gave it a bath and everything's fine carded one piece. I know that was fun. So this x seven no m version on the but they're following the path of their be seven and they're doing an Pena ex be seven and it's going to get a bump in horsepower. It's going to get a bump and torque and for the size and weight of this thing. Torque is where TAT right this is. I want to say the X. Seven is five twenty three horsepower and this bumps it to six twelve and and the normal seven five fifty three pound for you to Torque. This goes to five ninety. It'll scoot this thing around zero to sixty and four seconds or seconds. That's top speed on that thing matt things for big vehicle. That's pretty stout one hundred and eighty mile an hour top speed on centrally which looks like a brick now to stop it you have to do you have to do fifteen and a half inch rotors in the front and fifteen seven in the back. I it feels like those numbers are flipped but according to the specs. That's what they're doing for some reason. Bigger on the back is that seems unusual seems weird so maybe there needs to be a correction on there but unless it was a designer that Wanted the same gap with the wheels front and rear something weird like that. Yeah I am not sure what it is but anyway this will start At just under a hundred and forty three thousand bucks gets you in the door and It's it's about forty thousand dollars over the base m fifty I which is the the ex seven base model. I don't know it's it's kind of interesting. I think I'm surprised by the top speed because of of how big it is and I don't know if you guess what six thousand pounds sixty five hundred pounds but kind of interesting buddy of ours some Tyson solvent actor but on the show here on the show and shift and steering he special order to an SUV actually fell in love with it. At Barrett Jackson. We were walking around we went to the BMW booth had a nice chat with those guys and he saw the the x six the swoopy version of of you know it's got a nice profile to a little less functionality. When you get into the hatch but he was just kind of going for something kind of four door ash. That is not. He didn't need all of the YOU Tilleke. He lives up on top of one of the hills up here like in the Hollywood hills. So the the theory wise. The roads are a little bumpy. There are a little messed up and occasionally the curb on the tight turns and he wanted to be able to to to not worry about ground clearance as much as you would on on one of the Sporty sedans but also get a sporty so he looked at the and then the guy showed us the x six M and then he said Oh we also offer this with the competition package which a lot of us here know now. And he's like great. I love it so picked up. I don't even think it's been delivered yet. They're making it and obviously things have been delayed because of Corona virus a BMW X. Six M competition package and it is as fast zero to sixty s that Lamborghini Urus that we drove. It's like three point. Six seconds or three point five seconds but it roughly half the cost. Don't get me wrong. It's still one hundred fifty thousand dollar loss but it still like half the cost of the Lamborghini chuck which I thought was fantastic. So that'll be kind of interesting. Maybe that's going to be the only way I'm gonNA drive a BMW is wait for him to get his and bring it over here and and give it a shot but anyway that's that's kind of what what what's going on. What are you? What are you doing these days? Bradley Man. I'm trying to work through this Corona virus get the factory. Ramped back up so that I can get the whole rhythm going again and then and then you know. Find some time to have some fun but I really been thinking about this summer. We were looking at every single automotive events. Even things like you know we know the Monterrey's all gone and for the race that we believe the race beheading and they said that the Woodward Dream cruise was going to happen then they cancelled it and saw all these things. Keep fluctuated and what that tells me. Is that with ten demand. There's GONNA be some incredible cars in coffees come late June and into July and August man because guys are gonna WanNa bring stuff out that they've waited to debut and I think in certain locations you will find some cars and coffee. That are just crazy. I think we'll see some really cool cars coming out of the woodwork. Or some things that you just don't see very often. I mean don't don't you think people are GonNA WANNA get out. I think so. I think some of the places that are starting to open and restaurants for opening people aren't trickling in people are lining up to get in. And I think we're all kind of ready to do that. And Look I think you have to open things up even a for a while and and let people gained some sanity as well as have some of these businesses. Get back in business. And we've seen some of these other countries a second wave of corona virus and we might have to do a scaled back version of again. So go out have some fun. Do the car shows as restaurants and and salons open because People are desperate for haircuts. And they WANNA eat their stake. Just just be safe about it going you do it. I will offer a little bit of a of a suggestion if you will. This is this is going to be a high stress environment for the restaurant owners. And for the staff that are working there and they may be forced to wear masks which seems very impersonal. For for somebody. Who's serving your food. Hey it's not their choice. They have these rules to abide by. Go in be nice tip well and enjoy your bill and you're gonNA have a good time to get a little frustrating. There's GONNA be lines. And and they may run out of things food and stuff like that because they can't place the orders have to ramp up volume again. They don't know how much they're gonNA move. So you may be going one of your favorite restaurants and they don't you know they don't have enough seafood or they run out of Sushi or they don't have enough stay. Just be patient with everybody. We'll all get my only suggestion would be. It's it's not. It's not their fault. The people working in the restaurants and some of these places all over it's not their fault global pandemic so let's why anyone would be upset with a server. Wear a mask because it's happening over one or layer of protection. I mean yeah to cough on your food in good times. Yeah last yard anymore. I don't want it now so I don't know bags like but I get it. I won't even bring it up before already was popping up in the news and people just being comfortable with it like guys come on we can. We can do better than that but anyway I want to wrap some. Wrap some things up here. You GUYS WANNA listen to shift gears to podcasts. I do with Brad and with Aaron. Hagar we're posting on since we've been doing the shows on zoom as well. We've been posting videos up on Youtube and I think we put up. Did we put up the video of errands shop tour. That will go up later this week on our facebook page. Okay so you can take a look at that and then we had to our buddy stone. Cold Steve Austin. Drop by for a minute. I think I think that's a bonus video so that's going to be a bonus video that will also go up this weekend so the show always go up on like a Thursday on facebook and then any bonus episodes golf during the weekend. Steve Austin is a neighbor mind over in the Venice Marina area. He's his ranch in Nevada where he spends most of his time but when he's filming and doing stuff he's got a place out here so go over there sometimes and we hang out and take a look at the cool press cars and whatnot but his place in Nevada. You know he likes to road trip. That's all we can basically do these days. So he wrote trip on over to to Aaron Hagar shop and took a little tour over there and everybody knows everybody so everybody is good and friendly and so you popped in and said hello and we had a little. Chatto look for that bonus video as well. The website shifting steer you can link to all of our social media sites facebook pages and stuff from there Brad. Work people find you if they want to tag along and doing the best places instagram. And it's real easy. It's Bradley underscore fanshawe so it's F. A. N. S. H. A. W. So Bradley Underscore fanshawe. I'm on everywhere else. But instagram is where I put most of my stuff right on. 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Porsha Williams & Terry Crews - 01/13/19

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

23:06 min | 1 year ago

Porsha Williams & Terry Crews - 01/13/19

"Welcome to the Bravo. Clubhouse for the podcast division of watch. What happens live with me? Andy cohen. I'm Brooklyn nine nine he stars opposite handy. And her pregnancy cravings do not include candy, it's with Porsche Williams and Terry crews now. On your host Danny Cohen in the clubhouse on Sunday night with a woman in her third trimester. And for some reason I trust to deliver her baby. Is in Atlanta. Who is currently blast? With the growing family unlimited supply of hot dogs, say Ida Porsche. Catch my next guest in Brooklyn nine nine AM. Now, America's got talent the champions on NBC. And I bet he can catch you and bench you without breaking a sweat. Please. Welcome back. Our friend, Terry crews. Do you ever met? I was gonna say. You are two of the most fun. Body. Junior. She's kicking good. Okay. All right. Well, well tonight. Well, only half of tonight's bartenders are fully potty trained. They're all one hundred percent adorable from the bullies and biceps twenty nineteen calendar. Michael and Brian with midseason. I don't know what to look at over there everything. So let's get started. I'd never seen a hub. Archie anyone's house book right in their houses. Yeah. Dangerous though. Yeah. Drinking about you. Are we bet? We're relying. Porsche tonight. You call Eva for forgetting her shade. Helpful reminder could not jog her memory. A look you. But you, but you'd be forgetting show have you ever been shady with with fifth year. I'm sorry. When's the last time you saw model with a big booty? Cindy, only one on. No, no, I'm gonna pass the peach Marlow, forty two never been married. The difference between Cynthia in is modeling style is about twenty years veteran walk in my heart of heart. Not a shady bone in my body. Not a shady bones say mouth. Tonight on the merry medicine reunion quad and Greg came face to face. It was xactly as tense as you would expect. I don't know if you've seen this book, Steve. Why couldn't you rich? I'm gonna fight. Argument and who's rude and negative nasty and physically abusive pull the knife on. We took a Brown. What do you want from the other now in order to peacefully move forward? Visit about the town. So crazy, okay? You have love for him. That's what you're gonna sign his crazy after all of this has happened. How? Whiled, but after ten years with someone even if it was all bent out of shape. Well, that's how it goes. The love just doesn't go away y'all have disagreements but the left in the Galway. I love him from afar. Okay. Quad all rights your questions for Borgia. But you can't stop popping those. I. I. Two. Jubal chance. I don't. Your questions abortion interior coming in to those. Here's what three things I'm says tonight, first Porsche might not be drinking this season. But that has not stopped her from survey. Here's what please enjoy our favorite portion Nanon's far. I'm about the mail. Cook enough. Bowl is a free. Damn don't. You there wreck in Marlow, the Satchy outfit could be. Mccrae's? So funny seasons. I'm just big jolly and. Good. Good transition to welcome. The man who made you so. John king. I love foot long. Like a real hot. How long have you been together for sure, I don't even know. Sucking on Atlanta tonight, Eva and Tanya through the women dinner as a way to invite them on a trip to Japan. So here's what candy and Porsche decided to preview things by channeling their best. Inner samurai warriors watch. Girl. Nobody told you to do that. You won't be all of pays. You don't know how to control yourself that problem? Oh. Nice to you by even I. Washer? Let's just move inside. The holidays to okay. Leaving. The issues. Delete. What did I did you follow her too? Oh, yeah. Finally, Terry Mayo's to erica's got talent the champions. But he's such an accomplished artist that he could out talent the child ventriloquist down sword swallow and Susan Boyle combined. So here's what let's unpack Terry's Maggie tricks with a round of questions in Terry. All right. Okay. Terry, how many push ups can you do without stop it? Probably. Hundred. What is the most convincing foreign accent? You can do. Ooh bodies. You were what I'm saying? What up line never failed? You. Oh, man. I just failed all the time. That was twenty. What game? What kerry? Oh ki song. Are you? Always sure the sleigh. Megan Louis downtown. Home. To me saying. What dish best shows off your talents in the kitchen. Will stick for real state? How good are you? I've talented are you a flat tire berry untalented? I dunno. Paid a lot of people to do all that kind of stuff. Thank you very much. So you you ascertain that you did not go up on that girl at the party. Now. I mean, you know, she was like I didn't like chess bump anybody from the back. I'm with child. Really you were with child. All right Porsche. Serena asks wants to know, why Dennis's mom is so obsessed with the two of you signing pre-nup because he's worked hard. He's earned some things in life. And now she knows that I've also earned some things as well. So. Business people. Do you think it's a good idea for both of you to do? Right. Dotting your at. Okay. Very good. Terry, Dominique are wants to know who support surprised you the most when you spoke out about the sexual assault that you experience. Wow. Who supports me, the most, you know, it'd be honest with you when it first happened. There was none right or longtime. But but I have to say that the people who surprised me the most were black women. Black men did not want any part of it really all all my support came from black women straight up. That's so that's kinda wild. It. Was it shocked me it shocked? My family shocked everybody because I thought oh, my guy, you know, here here. I am as a black man saying some things that we've all been through and a lot of guys as like man you week you sorry. You should've hit him. You should have knocked mile. Should did all this stuff and black women were like, no, no, it doesn't work like that. Right. And I was I was shocked at the split within my own. Only really noticed that that was. Let's go to Elizabeth from Florida hail with what your question. Andy Porsche for you. What is your current relationship status with me that she posted on what she were done? Oh, she did. Well, see recently also said that she loves her little sister. So okay. Yeah. So it sounds like the pendulum swings. Many directions is doors revolving. Yes, the the door is not closed tonight and circle. I don't I was asking you. Why you're so funny this season? And he'll to me that she's been doing all of interviews sober that season. Banning Hennessy from her interviews. Let's go to Kelly from Pennsylvania, Kelly what your question. Hi, congratulations portion Andy on the upcoming baby. But this question is actually for kick. Okay. What exactly why exactly did you do ninety six bath with your wife, and then what was day ninety one like? Zeke this quest. I had an addiction to pornography for years, and it was one of the things that basically 'cause my marriage to break up, and I went to therapy for for this whole thing. And one thing they suggested is is kind of like a reset when you get rid of all that was wild that you don't know these things have snuck into your mind. Your kind of dirty your whole thing up. And then you have to realize that in order to find love and you have to separate sex and love two different things at the same thing. And so I basically re dated my wife, and that we were married, but I said ninety days it's like, it's a perfect time for you. No sex. No, nothing you'll masturbation during that time thing while zero and what year was this. Oh, this is back in two thousand nine the ninety day. Oh my God. Size makes happened. Do you ever watch porn anymore now? No don't. Well. No. It's just. It's just it was such a problem. It's almost like, you know, some people who can drink and do whatever I can't do it. Why was just no good love in it. Good. To Jonathan DC question for Porsche what your question Jonathan. Hi, Andy, anyway, push. My question is have you had any issues? Fifteen Dennis concede mid it to texting his ex behind your back. Actually, we've been really good. You know, we went to counseling because I had issue with communication, and I realized it was just that we need to learn how to talk to each other our love language, and you know, that was in the beginning of the relationship, and we haven't had any for you for going. We're going to. That's great. Yeah. Thirty years on the show so transparent in in a lot of people talk to me about it. That's great. Yeah. It's good to Amy from Louisiana. Hey, amy. What's your question for Terry? Hey, hey, eighty hi Porsche. Congratulations. Okay. My questions for Kerry, Terry. Do you have any news about the white chicks or Friday sequels that are rumored to being the work white chicks sequel to or? Yeah, you know, I literally I've talked to show on two weeks ago. We still trying to get that done. I'm tate. I'm staying in shape. So we could. Sean Marlin Keenan I want the whole team back. We can bring everybody. Daniel busy Billups carpenter. Do it again. But we're getting no. Harris w what's new Porsche view officially picked a name out for PJ yet. Or are you seriously considering Porsche junior still seriously considering Porsche junior? All there. There is another name on the table that he does like okay say that I was thinking of naming my kid Porsche juniors. We can both for she. Jay, Jay too. Okay. It's game time. Everybody. May twenty fourteen we played a game where he answered questions by making his peck stance. Well, it's been four and a half long lonely ears. But the way finally over because it signed for PEC pop quiz to Terry. You guys are gonna face each other. And then put a yes and no on each side. And then. We're going to show Cheri celebrities in the monitor behind you gonna ask him. Yes. Or no questions. He's going to reply by bouncing the Yasser not respective. Okay. If you can guess three in sixty seconds you both win. Okay. Okay. So let's go to start. You just ask him. You're asking him questions. Guess. All right. So is this person in actress? Yes. All right. Is this person African American? All right. Is it Carrie Washington? Okay. All right. Is this one and Oscar? No are needed. They were nominated. They went. No catch string. It you're in. It is this person taller short, sweetie. Yesterday. Candy. It's going to be. All right. Okay. So is this person married? All right. So are they also singer? Damn. I was thinking beyond say, geez. All right. Well, did she does a lot of other things? Oh, okay. Stage work. So she cook capacity. The e. I mean possibly. Oprah. So you won the game triumph and by guessing one and you stood up. And then it looked like you were about to give birth. That these shoes are only for sitting. Okay. Very cute. It was over my legs went out. Let's take a quick call. It's Carla from Cincinnati Carla what your question. Hey, my question. It's the Porsche. And wanting to know what's your reaction to people thinking that you're Andy surrogate. Oh, I know. That's literary. Carrying. Oh whilst. Congratulations, by the way on Brooklyn nine. It's back and funnier than ever. So. Congrats. It cypher my muzzle jackal. They both come from Atlanta tonight. My mazal goes to Dennis who brought Porsche a pickle to enjoy in bed tonight. And no, that's not a euphemism. Actually, brought earn giant pickle in a plastic bag to eat while they fought. Okay. More tiffs. We got you shoot just dropped it. We got you this pickle bouquet. Next. I've tried. Because pickle juice is the third worst thing that I could think of getting in the sheets shackled goes to the irony that during candy and Porsches huge blowout at the botchy. Party. Candy was dressed like a referee. Now. Defense part of why she got into the fight was probably due to the stress and exhaustion from others extra shifts she'd been working at footlocker. I wanted you so much here. I just want to say we're going to see you. Cedar. Kimmel kicking off to. Dogs are so cute. I cannot handle and we're with Porsche and Terry. At nine on NBC. Andy's of America's got talent the champions Mondays at eight on NBC. Very cool. Do. Buying the the guys from the bullies and biceps twenty nineteen calendar. Michael in buying. Those pit puppies. Are so good. Okay. Let's go back to the phones. It is that close. Are you kidding? I love the contrast. Would you say we're made for each other? You really? Really? Let's go to Samantha from Michigan as Samantha what your question, Andy. I love you your mazing, you're gonna make a bad, and please write another book. But my question is for Terry. Kendrick Lamar two thousand or what has been the biggest changes seen in since. He's become a Pulitzer winning artists. Biggest change in Kendrick Lamar's since you've known. Oh, wow. You know, what I bought? You know, I think he's got more creative to be honest with you could've there was a time when he could have just kind of went through out that everyone doing and kind of like this independent rap guy. And then he just transcended everything about jazz, you know, Aren be it's like, he's just absolutely most phenomenal phenomenal artists theory. Let's go to Erica from Virginia. Hey, Erika which question handy. I love to ask for Shah. What's your opinion on all the shade going on between Marlow and Chamari, and they will get to a good place. Look, I'm loving it. I'm loving that. I'm just saying that's that's what our show is built on. But you know, one thing I do love about it. It's not below the Bill. I still think they're in the funds shade round. Rush is nice. Keep me going ladies out of Dhamar emailed has Cordell reached out to congratulate you on your engagement or baby now, but he should reach out to yazmin showed him on the show. I know sorry Georgie wants to know Terry while you were filming the switch. Switch video did Katy Perry. Give you any indication as to who. Or what the district might be about a year. I heard I heard and I joined it I kinda I'm a little shade into actually she backtrack wants to video came out. And I was like that's better right better. You know? I mean, I like peace all let's go to Debbie. Let's go to Debbie from Indiana last call tonight. Hey, w what your question Howard, everybody. Harry all today. All right, my questions too. But I I wanna say Basel to you Porsche. And should you Andy on the upcoming breath of your children? So happy. Terry. My question is who had the crazier workout on the set of the expendable? So that's just alone or Arnold Schwarzenegger who workout out hall sly works out, really crazy. So he's always bringing real contract. And it's one thing just vibrated like electrically, and he do the muscles on top of he bring like dumbbells on it. And he'd be like I understand what that is. Baynes were everywhere. What he's working? What does that work what part of your body? Dana. I wanna take Porsche and Terry and the. Eggs everybody. Thanks for listening to the podcast everybody. Hope you enjoyed the show. Remember, new episodes? Go live Monday through Friday at four PM eastern time. Make sure you're subscribed. Have a great rest of your night.

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Porsche vs Tesla, Travel Cameras, & Gaming Industry Nostalgia

Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast

1:14:58 hr | 1 year ago

Porsche vs Tesla, Travel Cameras, & Gaming Industry Nostalgia

"Hey what's up guys. Welcome back to way for him. Episode three in your hosts marquez brownlee andrew manganelli and today four and we have a deep dive in porsche's brand new electric car that take on and take on turbo s and comparing it to tesla model less conversation about the perfect traveled camera. Some video game world updates animal wrap it all up with another great q._n._a. But first let's go with a quick recap since last episode. I said we have a couple updates. From the last podcast two weeks ago the biggest one i think would be the reviews of the galaxy note ten and a galaxy note ten plus plus. Both those review videos came out actually made them separate videos which i don't always do for two different phones that are the same but have different sizes but there is enough different about them. <hes> uh-huh yeah pretty good collection of features in those two phones obviously a little bit polarizing with the lack of a headphone jack but that's just kind of the way it is now. I do have one in fact. Check quick fact check. I mentioned the note ten doesn't have those depth sensors but it does still do a are doodle and i focus and a bunch of other things that still the required depth information. It's just not quite as good yeah. I'm sure you're dying for all those things on the newton yeah. I'm not the biggest air doodle user. I'll admit that freely not the power user not yet not at tower user so sorry about that but that is the truth and then we also have new dope tech so all kinds of things happening with any dope tech series which i'm just really excited about. It's just a sort of a collection of new and exciting and interesting pieces of tech. I'm just generally pumped about doping protecting back. Yeah i feel like i feel like everyone loves dope tech and they're always wondering when the next episode is we've kind of put ourselves in this position where like we did a camera robot arm how do you how do you top that so yeah. Barely coming out anymore because we're not finding these things so. We figured it'd be more of a list format. We can throw in some a lot of things in a shorter time. I might have set the bar too high where once i muscle same thing with the interview series. It's like when you're going to do another interview well. My last two interviews were elon musk musk and bill gates. I can't just hold back on every interview from here on out to try to do better than that so we'll bring back interviews as well but it's not like a sound like this is a giant step stepdown. This is just fun to have it back and don't worry regular tax will still happen when we do find those notable pieces true and then you have a you have an apple battery repair update on here so what's what's happened since the last time last week we talked about apple and some of their battery issues and it wasn't really that much of an issue. I don't think either of us thought it was bad. It was you know if you replace it with a third party battery. I think it was even if he replaced with a first party battery but it wasn't from an apple authorized user not refined yet. Yeah you would lose the battery status some battery health indicator in the setting something everyone checks every morning when they wake up from bed but <hes> but so apple actually kinda took a step forward here and now they're allowing independent repair shops as long as somebody in the repair shop has an apple took an apple certified technician course <hes> they're now able to buy first party parts directly from apple not all parts though saddam first. There's party parts list yet. Batteries and screens okay well. That's a step forward for. I mean if you wanna consider right to repair a sort of movement. Yeah apple apple taking steps to being a little bit. Earlier is a pretty big deal. Let's give apple credit. They took a step which i don't think anyone ever expecting right. The problems we still have here is there's still plenty of other parts of the phone that can break that. They don't have access to like <hes>. I think one thing i heard louis rothman talking about was if you're charging port breaks. They can't buy are those parts and if you go to apple to do it. They just replaced the phone. I'm pretty sure you lose all your data nice. Yeah that seems like something super super easy see that you'd think they'd offer but and then the other thing you don't have is people repairing from home okay so this is i mean this is a pretty good sized little little right to repair update in and for people who do have phones that may be dying or that you want specific parts to be replaced that is good news good news but hope it's the first small ball step towards them. Many more steps awesome okay so i have a new version of <hes> new content for this week. They don't want to share with you. It's not a video okay. It's it's actually music. Nick and music. Everyone has different tastes of music but i just want to give a major shadow to and this is going to be hard to explain but twenty s weil which is also known as vain sill because twenty s y el is the spelling of it but it's not english so you pronounce it vein sill either way his music which has been featured in in many m._g._b. H._d. videos. I always i always throw it in the edit and i just think this is incredible music and i feel like this makes video so much better than it already was <hes> and he just came out with a little bit of a new collab- it's a remix of a new song with an artists that he worked with so called dollar and he collapsed with electric guest which other other artists that i've been familiar with have featured their music on the channel but obviously that's very complex as far as what music you're allowed to feature and vein soul has been super generous with allowing allowing us to use his music <hes> want to check that out that'll be linked in the show notes dollar the dollar the original song and the remix that a brand new and it's also the intro to dope texas. You've heard that little tidbit thing you've heard a bit as it already okay next topic and i think i could talk for maybe thirty five to fifty years on this so slow me down. If i get ahead of myself self yet i i think that'll be my job for this part. I think this will mostly be utah. Okay perfect yeah. I'll just go into rant mode but that's okay so it's the brand new porsche take on electric car so many feathers ruffled and i love it so oh man. Where do i even start. Porsche is obviously an awesome legacy car manufacturer. This is their first electric car. Four door looks very similar to <hes> the nine eleven maher panna maria so it's a bigger car. It's a four door or looks very similar to the panamerican but has new headlights in this new suite giant l._e._d. Tail light and all these other new design cues for their electric electric lineup and this is part of an ongoing theme of every curve manufacturer in the world realizing wait electrification of cars is real deal. It's not just this fad. That's disappearing. It's growing. It's a new market. We can jump in here matter of fact couple of days ago. Lamborghini just unveiled their first hybrid rid supercar it again has always new design cues all these new features but that's beside the point so fully electric porsche comes out and i pout. The tweet ruffled some feathers but i'm gonna. I'm gonna go back to it anyway. <hes> that was just a comparison between the highest end tesla model s that you can get right right now. <hes> and the highest end porsche take on turbo s no there are no turbos and they called it the it's the scarver yeah they just couldn't resist is keeping some heritage there so it's called the turbo s <hes> so the highest end model. S. is <hes> about one hundred ten thousand thousand dollars. I'm actually put my tweet. Let me just read through the exact tweet that i sent and we can go down the list yeah inside. Tell me what you think of this comparison because it's it's definitely an on paper comparison but it's real hundred ten hundred and ten thousand dollars for the tesla hundred and eighty five thousand dollars for the porsche saraff the bat one of them's a little bit in a little bit more expensive <hes> the to the most important things that i think you'd think about when you think about an electric car are your range. How far can you go. Oh and charging speed how fast charge the range on the model s. three hundred forty five miles on a charge. The range on the porsche russia is two hundred eighty miles and it's also interesting as they're both hundred kilowatt hour batteries <hes> ninety three kilowatt hours of which are available to the porsche and i guess the full hundred to the tesla but the charging speed on the porsche significantly faster and i thought this was really interesting so the model three in the model s. both charge up to one hundred fifty kilowatts on the model three and about one hundred on the model s. Hopefully they update it. I'm getting in the weeds already but the the the porsche we'll charge like eighty percent of the battery twenty minutes. It's incredibly fast. That's that's also. The problem is where do you do that. Oh you don't have a you. Don't have a charging network. That's quite as readily internationally available as tesla's supercharging network so this is a the big point. I think for an electric car owner that wants to either do road trips or charge in the garage at night. It depends on your usage habits but that was a pretty big stat for me. Range advantage tesla charging speed advantage porsche but charging availability advantage tesla gin as of right now. It has over to see a potential attentional. Oh yeah i'll coming back to this. All medical cut competition is is where i wanna be but i'm still going through like what we have today. In two thousand nineteen zero to sixty sixty time <hes> two point four seconds on the tesla two point six seconds on the porsche. They're both insanely. Quick obviously their high end high powered electric cars but slight advantage niche the tesla just because you can claim the slightly lower number. That's what performance car enthusiasts love yeah and then you're topsy is about the same one sixty three on the tesla one sixty sixty two on the porsche <hes> and then a whole bunch of things that i couldn including that tweet because when you do the sort of spacing out line thing that i did it requires a lot spaces as characters forbid format really messes tweets up. Yes i didn't have enough room to talk about autopilot or supercharging networker interior styling or any of that stuff but <hes> what is what's your reaction right off the bat to these cars. I don't own an electric car. I'm just always seeing stats lives every day. I'd say it looks great. It looks very very good. Is again huge gripe. I don't like the bacteria. I think it looks like lincoln m. k. c. which portion of the porsche yeah yeah sorry yeah other than that. It looks fantastic. Pushes always been known to make just good looking cars. I mean they're they're kind of iconic there. Uh you could probably almost call them. The apple of the car world like porsches. Just look look the same all the time. Everyone knows when you see one. It looks great yeah. <hes> there event this morning took way too long to show the funny it was rough but so i've seen a lot of events again you sort of get spoiled by apple being the gold standard of tech presentations and you see them present so often but yeah that was a <hes> <hes> sort of an international collaborative event where they had a a set up in three different countries and they tried to have the event happen simultaneously in three different locations and it was cool but it took a very long time to actually unveil the car either way <hes> people tend to be in their camps about these cars especially when it comes to tesla it turns out people either either love tesla or hate tesla heard of it which is kind of interesting <hes> and so when this car comes out and you know there's a slight advantages on paper to the tesla <hes> there are massive unseen things that are not on paper that are big advantages for porsche one of these being repair service availability ability of <hes> getting a car quickly the history of <hes> driving dynamics. You know the the porsche actually weighs about five hundred pounds more than tesla despite having a same size battery about five thousand two hundred pounds this car it's huge two and a half tons but <hes> that's not a huge difference from the forty five hundred pound tessler or near the five thousand tesla and driving dynamics has always been a major strength of porsche matter what kind of cards so that's interesting to see but yeah there's just there's so many comments about joe this is this is a car that can turn when tesla's clearly are bad at turning this is a car that's not gonna catch on fire because only tesla's catch on fire higher <hes> and and the one that i found really interesting this is a car that can do multiple <hes> launches in a row without overheating and this this is actually a legit point <hes> so one of the big things that porsche was touting was there seven and a half minute nurburgring lap okay and i don't know how familiar with the i guess benchmarks for high end cars but it's a big point of pride to be able to put down a lap <hes> with a good time at that track and the tesla doesn't have time really at the nurburgring because it will overheat by the time it gets to the end of this seven minute lap and that limits power and that limits how fast you can go and no one's put down an official time for tesla. I'm sure people have gone there with their cars and tried to do it but yeah. The the seven-minute time was record setting for an electric car for porsche right out the gates. There is not one hundred d nurburgring time. That is a great great comparison for porsche because it's it's easy to look at numbers that are close together. One porsche can throw in out that literally doesn't have one against it like a company. That's been making electric cars for a while. Now that looks good on them so they can they can they can brag about that and there's also i saw fascinating video. I think it was the other day came. Out of. There are again another metric. I haven't seen very much but they're zero to ninety two zero time okay so zero miles an hour up to ninety and then as soon as you hit ninety you slam on the brakes and return back to zero and they did this really dramatic video on an aircraft carrier where they had a limited amount of runway and you're going ninety miles an hour in a car on this boat and you slam on the brakes and they got zero nine zero in ten point seven seconds. I don't know if that's great and it sounds really address a number off the top of my head for something like that i have seen the test before and the tesseract is crazy because imagine just like slamming your head back then flying your head foreword aren't really approaching the limits of traction on ye slam on the brakes at ninety miles per hour so that was a that was a fantasy but i i don't know how that compares. That could be interesting to see what do alongside so. I guess my bottom line here with these new cars is competition is good. I'm sure if you put the model s. and the take on turbo turbo s next to each other. Am i saying this right. Take on take him i. I'm not really sure take. I also normally pronounced porsche so i didn't hear in someone's probably lose our now. You said portion. I've tried to say porsche but i'm sure at some point i'm sure you could put these cars on a drag strip next to each other <hes> and floor it and the tesla which is barely beat the porsche in a straight line and that's what people are going to point to for performance but there's so much more to performance and i think <unk> actually having real legit competition between tesla and the other companies that are starting to make electric cars is the best part of this. That's what i'm excited for for sure <hes> it's also seeing company that has much history go into even if it's one that super expensive that not a lot of consumers are going to be able to buy yeah it's gonna be. It's fun to see these places. These different companies come out and and take on increasing competition and yeah we're all going to benefit from it and there are others that have sort of caught my eye. I remember at c._s. Saw the audi e tron just that was one that spins sort of creeping up. There's no official info for that yet but i was curious just because you think give out as a premium manufacturer <hes> and there's others and we have a whole state of electric vehicles sort of concept bubbling. I'm sure this will end up being its own podcast or video or something <hes> but i think that porsche take on turbo s specifically even though i think it's a little bit overpriced. I think it's the closest thing we have to something that can move the needle on what tesla has to do now like they may actually have to react as far as charging speed and as far as interior styling and things like that also saw photo from the event of people trying to sit in the back seat of the turbo and it wasn't ideal really yes with a little bit cramped. I'm assuming the interiors great porsches known for good stuff like that. Tesla has a good interior but a lot of people who come from luxury truecar's audi and high love this point okay so i consider maybe myself a minimalist or something of a minimalist because i really like the interior of a tesla. If you've never seen the interior of of testimony less there are zero buttons or knobs outside of the hazard lights the window switches and and the mirror adjustment everything else is just on the steering wheel or on the main screen or the dash behind the screen. That's it you have your air vents. Just like broad rod clean surfaces and people coming from high end <hes> german italian all these other cars are used to having buttons knobs switches glass metal little clocks in the site like all sorts of really high quality switches and things where you just feel like you're getting the premium material because you are. There's leather stitching the seats are really nice and they earned that credit over a hundred years of making cars. Were you sydney inside of apportioning. Damn this is nice is a nice car <hes> <hes> i don't think normal people get that same feeling from tesla but i do so i really like the interior of the tusla <hes> but i think a lot of people will compare the interiors and advantage porsche for sure. I'm sure i i mean. I don't think there's anything wrong with tesla interior. Just is jump out and grab you as the interior of some of these these hire cars were and i'm sure of one hundred eighty thousand dollars. They're gonna put something in there and you're gonna feel pretty crazy. Yeah yeah i mean it's an expensive expensive car and and when you're buying like okay try to put yourself as a person trying to decide which of these two cars to buy like think about that if you're in your car right now listening like look around. What would you rather have in your car. Then then the current car like a lot of people are going to say rather have that nice interior at rather or have the porsche badge. You know all bunch of things that people really value and cars. That test probably doesn't necessarily have but there's a whole bunch of things on paper paper like autopilot. That's a big question mark can you can these cars fully self-driving themselves. Do you care at all about that. Do you have a super charger near you. That's something you can't really measure. You're on paper like there's all kinds of variables that are hard to measure that i think <hes> are very personal but yeah i think <hes> if the if the take on was one hundred twenty thousand dollars i would be very curious to see what kind of sales they'd have but i think because it's one hundred fifty fifty to start in on the turbo. S is one hundred eighty five <hes>. I think they're still going to have a little bit of work cut out for them as far as selling <hes> to people who really want to buy an electric car that don't have a super charger near them. Yeah it's a it's a much more niche group of people because it's high end luxury and electronic onic yeah and obviously it's not a big dollars. Yes yeah that's why model threes is killing right now. I am excited for whoever comes out with a forty thousand dollar our electric car with three hundred miles of range in like a decent zippy performance car like with the interior that people like and you know toss any brand name on on it that people will just assume is better because porsche audi. Whatever you want to say like that car is probably gonna do really well anyway. This whole thing comes back down to competition. This is the best competition i've seen yet tesla. That makes me very happy all right so we'll we'll take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk. Some quick tech rumor way form is brought to you by policy genius okay so in the tech world. We've dubbed september as tech timber because it's basically the start of a super busy tech season for us but andrew. Did you know september is also national life insurance of course really no. I uh-huh i mean get it on your calendar definitely marked on my calendar. 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I o was for andrew though and there were orioles everywhere and a great perk it was we i think the whole video we made we tried to sneak as many orioles into the video as possible and that was the great time and it's always fun watching hiroshi on twitter troll. Everybody unwelcome names. Karoshi had a for those who don't know hiroshi laupheim dot com who's been in charge of android for a while <hes> he's had a habit of trolling just sort of teasing what the next version of androids name we'll be before it comes out because we all sort of assume he knows and controls what it's called and we are and his mercy trying to get it. I'm going to miss that a little bit i'm going to i think when p came out we made a fake android delegate peppermint happened. Mary tweeted it sure that and the world went well either definitely peppermint or definitely not peppermint temperament. Thanks hiroshi <hes> yes. I fun fact. I think i know all of the versions off the top of my head so while i there is a be. I don't know those debated. Call it up real quick okay. You can fact check me all right. Let's go so we're gonna start at sea ray at cupcake. Okay cool okay so verified verified. I'm not looking at anything. Nope this israel okay so cupcake doughnut eclair froyo gingerbread honeycomb ice cream sandwich jelly bean kit kat not <hes> not lemon. What is l. lollipop. 'em is know what came before nougat what is marshmallow marshmallow nougat <hes> oreo and then he was the last one so pie and then cues just as android ten as where it ends yeah. I don't think we could think of anything that q really stood for. Quiche was one of those conditions so so andrew. Andrew ten is out anyway long story short probably can't i wouldn't cross your fingers on getting it on your device anytime soon if you don't have a pixel or a one plus phone right right now did did. I read something that essential phones one of the ones getting essential five yeah. That'd be credible always to me. I love that i love that. Little little seems. It's like a startup but i mean they're a big company but yes essential sort of in the corner updating all their phones <hes> alongside google <hes>. If you have a pixel you can grab it now. If you have a a pixel book you can grab it. Now i guess but other than that does pixelbook all six of you pull over right now download android ten on your pixelbook <hes> if if you're not in that group <hes> i guess sort of cross your fingers because it's just sort of out there yet. You're on samsung three years. Yeah hope get. I hope you get the latest version sometime in the next three hundred sixty five days by android tana's out there next up i wanted to show i can't really show it to you but i just want to read you guys a headline just because it's september now and this is sort out of the state of smartphone announcements right now let me pull up this exact headline and read it to you while we may thirty pro renders show no volume buttons and seven cameras. It's a i wish you could see the italian lip kissing hours doing right kissing yeah what a great headline. <hes> on the twenty ninth so made thirty pro is gonna come out. I sort of actually tweeted recently like we have a bunch of stuff coming up. We have iphone eleven and eleven pro. We have pixel four. We have the the mac pro coming out. We have all the stuff coming. September actually conveniently furred cut while we make thirty pro. I think i just sort of a race them from memory after their whole thing earlier this year a lot of comments saying how much you hate woah but hey they're here. They're going to have thirty pro and it may in fact have android and come to the u._s. Who knows <hes> link this this in the show notes. If you want to check it out but i'm excited for it to hit up it did great in our camera bracket showdown last year shrew actually it one and may twenty one may twenty pro one the blind smartphone camera tests so make thirty pro is slotted to have the four cameras on the back is kind of a misnomer this number but it it is for. It's a wide angle. It's an ultra wide. It's telephoto and it's a time of flight sensor and then there's three cameras on the front which i guess is a regular ultra-wide and a time of flight also nice <hes> yes so no buttons is kind of weird. I'm not sure i'm <unk> ever going to be on board with the whole no buttons thing. I know that's sort of a movement to get rid of all the ports and buttons but nothing's quite like i think no real button yet has a while ago before before i think we all fully adapt that and take it as as normal. Thanks for the proof h._t._c. and we also have a couple other iphone rumors of course were gonna have this iphone event very soon. After the time you may be listening to this wall waiting for the iphone event to start <hes> but we have a couple of their iphone pro rumors which i love that are there may be a matte finish to the iphone and there always seems to be either a space gray or black iphone so if there is a matt black iphone eleven pro pro. I don't see how i don't end up using this phone. I mean like as over your android phone. I mean for at least like a week or two. I have to test it as my main phone so that's something that usually happens but map. Please tim cook. I know you're listening. Make it happen <hes> but there's also rumors of a revived iphone s._e. So it cheaper sort of budget. Iphone may not necessarily be announced that the same spring event were about to have but a smaller four point seven inch display in an iphone in twenty twenty twenty twenty okay. I feel like we've been hearing rumors for a while and never quite seemed to come to fruition but they sort of float around the design. Everyone wants is like that. Square iphone five s or iphone four design. That's the dream anyway and then having that compact iphone with the new internals but i don't think that's going to happen. I think it's just going to be an iphone seven. It's probably l. by look very similar to what we're seeing now rather than back then yeah so it's a it's an exciting rumor in in theory but not necessarily a going to be the dream phone that were all no. It's not gonna be market. Is this dream from cancer. Sorry all right next up. I have traveled. Cameras and bold seems like you have a lot to say about travelling quite a bit to say about it. <hes> this is something we've talked about a couple times so so like recently. I've been visiting a lot of national parks. They're beautiful and i think every time i've gone. I've brought something different with me to take pictures with. I mean a different camera a different way to take. They're not always cameras. I i only have my phone this time. Okay <hes> but i mean that's a camera. We've talked about that before. What's the best camera the camera camera you actually have with. You and i mean you. You never really go hiking unless you take pictures to show the world that you went hiking so you really go on the hike if they aren't pictures from above the clouds exactly so this last week i was actually on vacation. We're out in colorado. <hes> i was actually going to a wedding congrats connor and chloe marquette cousin eyebrows teammates with connor <hes> so congrats guys and it was a great opportunity to go out there and check out rocky mountain national park which was i like to call it breathtaking because it's like twelve thousand feet above sea level and i took one hike at the top of one of the mountains and wishes huffing and puffing after like a quarter of a mile. It's crazy how much elevation changes have been to colorado once and i think i might have even talked about this on a previous episode but i was like curious. If the elevation differences prince's real it's so real that literally we're playing ultimate and we weren't even that high the city but people were were throwing accidentally too far out the back of the endzone way way more often and i noticed that that was actually real and you could feel it in the air. It's like the lowest point rocky mountain national park is like nine thousand feet above sea level level and then you drive up the road and you get to a point that's around twelve and like we're getting close to three miles above sea-level. It's pretty pretty crazy but the park is absolutely beautiful. Mountains lakes up in the mountains. We had a great time there but every time i come back from one of these i talked to marquez because and we have this conversation and kind of debate over what's the best camera to bring to something like this year you wanna you wanna capture it as best as he possibly can but you're also going for a hike and you're carrying a you're carrying this weight for however many miles above sea level you go and thin air so sort of want to minimize how much you carry so maybe a smartphone on camera seems like a great idea for a compact camera but then is the image quality gonna do it justice. Do you want to bring a bigger camera. I'm curious what you found bring gesture phone this time so i think what's interesting is. I think the average hike we did on this trip was like eight miles a piece which is well. It's a lot carrying a heavier camera around like that what stuck you're definitely not bring your if you brought a red camera out and something like that you'd have i wearing for it. I totally would strap surprise me. We try to take a break every every four steps but yeah not i to just two for small tidbit. I did go for a hike in hawaii and i did bring the hasselblad regretted it so much so one of the first parks i went to was glacier last year and i brought a really nice camera. I brought the seven hour with me. <hes> a seven arca brought a couple of lenses. I brought the twenty four to one zero. Five actually rented a seventy two three hundred at some big lenses okay. It's not like at all and in my backpack. It was too much weight so i just wind up carrying it. Most of the time i did a thirteen mile hike one time and i thought my arm was gonna come out of the socket. Seven are seven. It's a lightweight body body. It's a smaller camera but then when you add that wait <hes> it's not the biggest handle on the world's kinda just like gripping this flat thing with a big glass. Wait on the side. Yes and it took absolutely beautiful pictures. I mean like getting back an icing my shoulder and resting. I'm like oh man. I'm so glad i brought this but there are definitely times comes in the hike where you're just like this miserable yeah. Why didn't i bring this with me so after that would you decide you wanted a lighter camera to sacrifice image quality. I think i was okay with sacrificing image quality. It's something we talked about in the camera bracket test before we're mostly posting these to twitter and instagram trump okay with some some sacrificing quality so the next trip i went to actually acadia and i just brought my phone. I got a bunch of great pictures which phone with just my phone pixel three okay. Everything looked great state of my pocket the whole time that was wonderful actually in acadia it was perfect then i go to rocky mount in and i think my biggest thing i missed was now telephoto with it because in rocky mountain there's a lot more wildlife and something that's been on my bucket list for a long time and seeing a moose <music> out saw couple of them and i was so bummed could get a news photo from four hundred yards away with the with a pixel smartphone camera. It'll be okay but but like you don't want to get out. No you do not want. Apparently they're super dangerous because of how dumb they are and how that's my favorite kind of dangerous. They get startled way too easily discharge so you don't wanna get anywhere near them. It was the first time i saw one clare our kind of terrified it was pretty it was in a field and it was just us and this one we were basically like hiding behind effort so hick but my favorite stat about by the way dumb dangerous animals is one of the most dangerous dangerous animals to humans is dear okay and that's because they jump in front of cars all the time. Do we have that a lot new jersey yeah anyway so so you'd rather have a telephoto lens in the case where you're photographing wildlife. That's further away. Can i can. I suggest i don't know if you you probably had these actually the the moment lenses so you can have did have those i had them in a katy as well and i definitely would say if you're just gonna bring your phone pick up. At least the wide angled the wide angled super fun. Let's you when you have big scenery. You want yeah all of it supplied so that's great. I had the anthromorph akao which took some really really really cool pictures. If those who don't know the the moment lenses moment is a company that makes a lot of attachment smartphone camera lenses so they have a special case that you put your phone own and it has a lens mount that you put in front of the cameras instead of just using your smartphones primary camera you can attach an ultra wide angle lens to your smartphone phone and it's this little cherry tomato size like small attachment. He can throw a pocket. If you want to have one one two of them they also make a telephoto lens. You can attach last year phone and anamour fiqh. Wanna take crazy super ultra-wide videos so yeah if you're if you're thinking about going like the smartphone only route which a lot of people do hum put you want that extra reach of telephoto. That might be a combo keep in mind. Yeah i can highly suggest it. First of all moment lenses are super high quality. I think that's the the original reason we kind of into them. They sent us some and we're like these. He'll like real lenses. They came in a lens case. Yeah fell amazing. It's not one of those little clip on ones. John's you see say like wisden lock into the lens mount case. Yes make him for iphones pixels. Maybe one or two others but those are the main like camera. Folks folks ask smartphone. I actually had my hiking. Backpack has two little pouches by the waste. I had like keeping an tried in one animal can telly and the other i wanna you would have been you would have been a poster on their site for the ideal user caleb niles as my only issue at that is even with the telly <unk> an affiliate full zoom. I was getting close to some of the wildlife if felt closed but then picture quality at that point it's not moments fall. It's we are phones phones with zoom. It's just garbage yeah okay so i have another camera. Sitting in front of me is actually something i could not stop thinking about yeah while i was out there and i was so i did not bring this might be the one i'm holding an rx one hundred mark seven and it's pretty expensive. It's about eleven hundred bucks but there's an extra hundred mark five. You can get that takes just as good photos not quite as good videos <hes> but it's it's a palm sized camera with a really good zoom optical zoom mm-hmm. I think i'm looking at a i don't know the equivalent anymore but it's an over one hundred millimeter zoom in your in the palmyre hand yeah <hes> this might have been <hes> somewhere somewhere like a good fit in that same jacket pocket type of thing. Maybe a back pocket. You take it out. You get your optical zoom and you get a much better photo than a smartphone. It's just not quite as fast. I think i'd be fine with that like i'd be fine holding that in my hand. I'd be putting in a pocket right right on my chests somewhere welcome. I'm walking around and be able to whip it out really quick. I think most of the places when you're in a park like that you know it's very rare that you're the only person that finds wildlife. You're more looking for cars that are pulled over on the side of the road or a bunch of people pointing found cool stuff yeah exactly like i whip the pocket the camera while i'm on my way there so that's that's not that big of a deal but okay having something that small with good zoom like that. I honestly could not stop thinking. Why didn't i bring rx one hundred with me out of an sledded easy z pack that i could have done that. I just didn't think about <hes> so yeah. That's what i was kinda thinking. I know you're it's interesting because we've had conversations like this before and i think it was before you went to hawaii. You're like yeah. I'd bring the hasselblad why like it doesn't have a big of a huge telephoto lens but i can just crop in its fifty megapixel. It's true okay so here's my experience with <hes> traveling traveling with cameras. I am stubborn and i over and over and over again. Make the mistake. I guess of pack nick hammer that's too big and too clumsy but takes amazing images so i will take less images than i wanted to but the couple that i do take will be really good but i'll miss like a bunch that i wish also took so i carry in my backpack pretty much all the time cannon kosar and i could i could be out somewhere and like see something happened in front of me. I'd be like that would have been great to capture and i'll just not take my phone out and i'll just watch it happened because the e._r. would have been to unzipping my backpack insurance on like getting everything set up. I just don't do that as much but when i do. It looks great <hes> <hes> so yeah. Maybe this is something. I should think about carrying. Maybe not instead yeah as a a quick running gun. Let there it is. I have a couple of seconds also at a certain point like when you were hiking in in hawaii how far it was up amount right yeah and i wasn't taking so i only took one lens with me and it was like the forty five so it's like a medium naive and telephoto because it's such a big censor air to medium format sensor so anytime pointing the camera at something it's either a giant landscape which means i can just focus on whatever and takes a shot or another person or something like right in front frenemy like a plant or or something like that and so that lens was fine for that but any time super specific but they were whales in the water like thousand yards away. I wanna i wanna get a photo of that but i just took a picture with the wide angle lens and you'd have to zuma lot to get that <hes> so yeah having a multiple pull lens setup would not have quite worked for the type of fast thing that we would have been doing in the hike but <hes> the couple of photos. We did take like i said on the hassle. Wed looked sick so yep somewhere between i think i'm gonna keep carrying yasser just because i wanted to see photos and videos but arc's hundreds my new favorite because the mark doc seven has a mike jack now you can legitimately plug in a little mike right on the side the articulating screen points at you and becomes a little camera fatter. You're saying if you're you're a backpacking hiking vlogger yeah so i guess here's here's my recommendation if you are going on a vacation specifically glee to go for a hike where you want a very lightweight camera but you wanna take pictures so bad that you're willing to take a dedicated camera i i would recommend appoint shoot like the one hundred and it doesn't have to be the mark seven. This is super similar to the mark six and the mark five <hes> but it will take four k. videos. It has a great zoom lens <hes> coming off kind of like an ad right now but that's okay. This is a great camera. <hes> i don't think there's also the whole world of like the insta- three sixties and the go pros rose and that's another thing i was thinking those are legitimately built for travel and to be rugged into toss in a bag but you're again. You're on a fixed lens again. It is going to be smaller smaller and lighter but image quality is not going to be as good. I mean that's a smartphone sensor. Basically so <hes> yeah i would go with the low points. You like that awesome yeah. I thought this conversation was kind the fun because the amount of emails tweets we get that's like i'm doing this. Wanna take pictures of that. I have budget of this. What's the best thing to do yeah. It's hard to answer that question for every single person so this is a scenario. I think a lot of people like to go outside like to see scenery so this was something i think a lot of people can relate to and the hardest part about rx. One hundred recommendation is budget because it's over thousand but if you can get down to the mark forum mark five if you don't care as much about four k. video those cameras are five hundred bucks china so it sounds perfect all right so next topic back in episode one you kind of introduced me as someone in the studio who plays games. You don't blade very many resident game expert yes. I'll take throw that on my linked in profile but you wanted to update you if there is any big gaming news i think the first thing we talked bows ninja switching to mix her. Did he bail what happened. I don't think that contract is letting him anytime soon. So this is more. This isn't about a person's specifically typically but more about games. I actually saw from our our now arch-rival for the next few months <hes> lines yeah yeah. He tweeted something about at the top. Five games are were on twitch last week and i think to somebody outside the gaming world. This is super interesting. I'm going to read off the five titles top. I five most played on top. Also twitch would be listed as a top five most watched played games because everything onto which is listed by how many people are watching it so these are that chop five games viewed. I don't know exactly about played but all the top streamers were pretty much playing some of these games which means thousands and thousands thousands and thousands okay so these are like the trending topics on pretty quick. Yeah exactly sure number. One is a world of warcraft number. Two was fortnight which i don't think anyone surprised about the number three hundred grand theft auto five number four was minecraft and number five legal legend so first of all you do play some games. You play racing an n._b._a. Games also by the way i play games marquez destroys me n._b._a. Anytime we play but either way have you played any of those games that i mentioned <hes> no. No one of the grand theft auto five is at the news grand theft auto or is that i think it's the newest. It's still not that new rate. It's not that new which is actually do you know what any any of these games have in common leave. I know you said league of legends one okay so i know that's a pretty big legacy game. I'm aware of that and minecraft has had this resurgence yes. I think that's mostly do p._d. Good part of that is due to p._d. Pie i think a lot of people have been playing it but p._d. Pies brought it back to the the older generation. Now who's stream and stuff. People are discovering minecraft. He just funny okay. So what what is the common threat. None of these were released this year. We're pretty lay early in two thousand nineteen yeah you'd think two thousand nineteen would be at the top of that and then what's even more interesting about that is three of those five are from before two two thousand ten so three of those five or ten years old status more impressive because i could see like even in the smartphone world right now. The best selling phones came out last that year yeah and it's september the iphone ten the even the most popular phones like from samsung but yet ten years ago in the gaming in world that seems like a long time all right so minecraft in legal engines. They both came out in two thousand nine like you said we talked a little bit about what we think is a big reason i mean microsoft has always been popular and has been popular at the younger audience. It's just one of those games that you can play over and over and over and over again yeah <hes> legal eddings is still huge along widowed to which is was released not long after that both of those are the games just have a huge audience. They have this professional <hes> seen. That's really big but i kind of think what the more interesting is. So world of warcraft has been around since it started. It actually was released in two thousand four. It's very popular right now and the reason is is because they actually re released the original the two thousand and four version and i'm not saying like no graphics update no anything they re released a fifteen year old game and it is the number one watched game on twitter right now. Were there other releases that were like graphically updated updated. Yes since then <hes> so what has happened. Is it's a game. It's a massive massive multiplayer online role playing game so pretty much you make a character you you level up you get items blah blah blah there have been many games like this world of warcraft is kind of the one that exploded back in the day and after a certain point you hit the max level. You've done all the content in it what they do is they add an expansion to it so it increases the max level so it used to be sixty now. It's all the way it's like one twenty but people have not been unhappy with the way the game's gone <hes> and everyone kind of longs for this the original like magic that they had from it and eventually they they caved and they brought got it back and it has been crazy crazy crazy popular wow nostalgia a i'm wondering also and i know it's either minecraft after or or league of legends has either one of these games ben in the top five for like the entire ten years since it came out. I feel like either minecraft or one of these games has always been one of the most watched game of legends is up there. I don't know if since right when it came out but they started a pro scene scene pretty early which pulls big numbers and points in the year when that person gets more popular it definitely is up there and it's just been one of those games that massively popular all over for the world. I think one huge thing with legal edges free <hes> same with doda to their free games as minecraft free. I haven't played my crafts in a very a long time. It was shot and play store or something. I think it's like four bucks yeah. I think it's very cheap. I think actually that's a great point. A lot of these games are pretty cheap. <hes> world war craft is it's not it's actually fifteen dollars a month but oh yeah wow wait for world of warcraft fifteen dollars a month and it's been on for ten years and people have been if tnt hallways. I'm sure they're i'm sure there are plenty of people who've played from the start but what kind of caused this to happen. Is people sorta getting so upset. With the regular game. They started making their own private servers of the original one that was not part of blizzard they kind of revenge they remade the whole game that got massively popular and i think blizzard is finally saw like people having way more fun playing this game from back then they said let's capitalize on that and get people who've it came in and play it. I went. I dove headfirst. I played that back in high school. I said that i liked first person shooter games in a previous episode but this was is a game that i played for two years in high school. I was on vacation when it released. Says really really bummed. I came back thing. My flight got in in at like ten. I was home by eleven. I logged on at midnight played a little while went to bed the following midnight so a twenty four hour period. I checked the time that i played on. I put sixteen hours linking him so i really really dove into it and i'm so happy i think i think a perfect way of showing it is the guilt that i joined kind of like the team is we called ourselves deja-vu because we are literally all just reliving the exact same thing stodgy nostalgia dodges incredible and i think this isn't the only thing we've seen nostalgia positive say this reminds me of the movie industry. Actually i wasn't don't even that's not even what i was thinking about. I was thinking more game stuff but yeah this. This reminds me of like every big movie that comes out if i wasn't like linked in with that nostalgia of like this is the new avengers movie. If i didn't see any previous vendors movies all i see is tons and tons of hype about how this is going to have them relive or like even like all the superheroes like spider man and the new going to be a joker movie now so you have to go back to watch the batman movie like everything's a spin off or a reboot of something that once was look at all the live action stuff right now line king lion biggest movie of the summer of two thousand nineteen the lion king like live action linking like who would've thought it. Does you watch it hit by any chance. I haven't seen it yet. Billy eichner is billy eichner and john oliver. Their characters are third perfect. The cast is going to be the reason. I see that movie yeah but yeah the video game. Ministry also is doing all this stuff. We've seen world work. That's not the first m._o. This old game called ruin scape was like an in browser game heard of it they updated. Everyone hated it so they brought it back. That's super popular right now. We're seeing we're even seeing all these consoles coming like who to thaw in two thousand nineteen when we have graphics graphics that i remember playing games and like my grandma was looking at t._v. And thought we were just watching t._v. Because the graphics concept good but who thought now we want to go back to side scrolling doing like yeah <hes> sonic on the second genesis or they brought back crash bandicoot which was a game. I played when i was little. It's nostalgic seems to be destroying destroying all these new games that what are so kids today who are gaming are they. Are they going to what's their version of nostalgia. Gonna be is going to be like throwing back to the crappy games two thousand nineteen at didn't hit or are they going to be throwing back to the games that their parents through back to that's a great question by kids of today are a playing minecraft. I guess they're gonna view a throwback in ten years as throwing back to minecraft which was a throwback to nine craft this so i. I guess you have the classic yeah. Once you have a classic. It's classic. It's the thing and i guess it's hard to tell for making classics this year. <hes> i'd say one of the names four nights two years old though yeah yeah but in ten years that'll be a i think they'll bring that back. Remember fortnight guys play four nine. You have argues one of these games. That's come out recently. <hes> <hes> yeah the biggest game of this year is probably apex legends which just had them massive massive like uprising and then just out almost they came crashing down but it has nowhere near hiep's to have yet some so i don't i don't really know what do we just not see that. Many super-popular games anymore or is his nostalgia just too hard to overcome. I think it's just gonna be there will always be huge names in any space like by by comparison the smartphone world we talk about all these other phones like the you know the budget phones in the mid range stuff of the world but at the end of the day there's about five phones people by yeah and i think it's a lot of the same way in the gaming world like there are tons of games you can get into but at the end of the day there's about five games that people play and watch streams of and compete professionally in and that really blow up to become like a cultural cornerstone. Yes yeah and you know even for someone who's not in gaming like. I see those names out and i see the professional the gamers and the night blowing up. I see that and <hes> i. I guess i sort of think of it the same way like in ten years when i throw back and someone asked me what was gaming like in two thousand nineteen fortnight. I mean that ordinary marcus brown the i guess that's what it comes down to those twenty eighteen actually but yeah so that's uh that's kind of my take on it all right so we'll take a quick break and we'll come back and we got some more q._a. In a question we'll go through some answers to those capitola. Way form is brought to you by ship station so you're selling online getting in your orders. Out can be a real pain. It's time consuming expensive so many carriers to choose from so how on earth is supposed to know if you're making the right choice. That's why you need <unk> ship station dot com. It's the fastest and most affordable way to manage and ship your orders. I kind of feel like i can personally relate to ship station in a way. 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Ask questions about or just general stuff so i asked what you guys wanted to know and we got some questions. It's all right. I got one broker and i'll ask you this question too. So elliott. Elbow elbow sales wants to know. Do you think modular phones will ever make a comeback and and <hes> as far as the near future. My answer is no. I don't think so may i don't wanna say never like ever but considering what we've seen smartphones for the past couple two years. It got tried. It didn't stick. It's not coming back yeah. I i guess my answer would be. Can you call it a comeback. If never really became mainstream great advice i mean the most i think about with modular phones like was that l._g. That you could replace the battery rated g. five you could just rip out the battery and swap in a new one which was another you know you you could always do like battery replacements on phones before that but it was sort of a throwback the fact the take the battery out. I think the closest thing we have to modular phones now is motos the modem odds and they're all right and they sort of worked from generation to generation but is that a modular phone or is that just attachments moving parts of the phone. I find it hard to call it modular. The remember that old kickstarter video appreciate you did a video on a project ara. Is that what it's called it. It felt like a lego leg. That was what people were dreaming about. Pingyao truly module the phone never happened because that requires a vibrant thriving ecosystem with third party plug ins that just was never going to happen. I don't see it ever happen yeah oh. I like this one if you're appointed c._e._o. Of twitter for day how would you implement the edit button. I think we've talked about this a little bit before but the edit button. It's so simple. It's just like the edit button on facebook umeda post visit typo. Oh no you rise as a typo. Twelve people already retweeted it. Whatever you hit the edit button you correct your typo. You hit save it. Updates your tweet. Anyone who re tweeted it will see that there is now how a history and edit history and you can go see that edit history if you click it <hes> there's a maximum number of characters you can change may be twelve. You know you messed up a word. You replace replace it. <hes> every edited tweet will show the edit history and <hes> simple as that meant that the day i get in. I think that the minute you get in you geico. You kick the door down the second. I walk in that office. I'm like who's in charge here. I need an edit button and i know you guys been working on. It just hit the go button guys please. If apple announces one more thing at their vent or would you want it to be what i wanted to do one at does it have to be realistic. Now you can well here. Give <hes>. Let's do one realistic one more thing and one dream one more thing okay. I'm gonna give my realistic one. I iphone iphone s._e. I don't want that much but i could totally see that actually being a kind of surprise i my realistic one. More thing from apple at this point is such alot bar. It's like were going to ship the mac pro next week. That's the one more thing like they promised it would be in fall and technically befall ends what november twenty it'll be literally. It'll be the last week of fall but yeah i there one more thing could just be remember that mac pro. We talked about soon scott. It's coming up soon if they said soon. If they said one more thing mac pro soon i would automatically assume it's push back the next year so it's not really what you want. That's my that's my realistic one more thing all right. What is your it. Can we just assume that you're unrealistic. One is that it's already sitting in the mailbox downstairs. Wow that would be whoa heavy now be hilarious but if they're gonna go on stage and give me a dream one more thing <hes> it'll be they'd finish up the iphone they'd go through all the new stuff thymus thirteen again they'd go through all their cells have been great but one more thing we've been working on this all new category and we know you've been very into tesla and porsche and audi but we've been secretly working behind the scenes on an apple car and we call it. I car good morning morning. That's that's something i could see them pulling off in a dream world but it's not gonna happen right. I say my dream world dream dream road with a hint of realism we saw a little bit about a are glasses one more thing. I think just like the little rumors iowa's thirteen had like a little mentioned in it that they're still working on it. <hes> ultimate i wanna put a pair of glasses on when i go to a store. I want like navigation the store. I'm i'm at the grocery store and i want this super niche product that i i know every single person i ask has no clue what i'm talking last last navigate to avocados pretty much i wanted it would needs to bring me to that. I'll just show me where it is and i just want to pick it up and i don't wanna ask forty people who don't know what they're talking about and then like usually when i'm in this scenario i i look it up on google images so i can see what the package looks like. We don't have to read everything yet. I walked down the aisle. I think it's in scan every package. It's not their neck style. It's just a pain in the neck yeah interior inside building real time navigation asian which is really hard because it's a lot of it depends on g._p._s. but yeah that could be interesting that could be a dream google glass competitor from the apple world who this is a question for both you and andrew from body by tacos. It's my favorite question about it. What keyboards do you and andrew like to use and why so on your desktop 'cause. I know we use different keyboards. Most of the time both here at the studio and at home i use apple's chick lit style desktop keyboard. I have tried mechanical keyboards. I've tried some others. <hes> logitech even sent their new sort of hybrid mechanical lisk but still not mechanical desktop keyboard keyboard with back lighting and all this crazy fancy features but i keep sticking with the simple square metal chiklis style. I dunno seems to work for me yeah at work. That's what i use. I feel like work is where i typed the most typing all day. I've i've grown to love the chocolate style keyboard. It's very simple. Also it doesn't drive everyone in the studio radio crazy which is very important at home. A mostly just playing games home is a mechanical. I think right now i'm using hyper x with cherry red switches for a while i was using browns and i really liked them at first but i was living in a one bedroom apartment with my fiancee so she was not too loud way too loud tat <hes> so i i moved to read their quieter and then i actually found out that i just really liked them. If you're playing for a long time little less fatigue i hate saying that there's fatigue when in playing video games <hes> but i hope there's someone out there who can relate to that. It's true it's true. It's true so unnamed tiago asked do you think u._s._b. S._p. Four is gonna kill u._s._b. See my behind on something. I'm really hoping that's not already a thing that people are thinking about. I haven't heard anything about it but isn't aren't they. They kind of different isn't u._s._b. See like the physical shape of type c connector u._s._b. Four if that is a thing could still use the u._s._c._c. connector because right now is three point one. I'm sure that's the very simple way of explaining but as far as i know like there's us two and us be three and they're the same taipei connector. I'm still in the u._s. All the things train so that's that's my stance. I mean as of right now. It's the only thing we've seen and it makes the most sense and the most universal so if something were to kill it it would have to go through this one was. When did we make the u._s._c._c._a. All the things video like two years ago like two thousand sixteen and there are still things coming out <hes> with micro u._s._b. So tex mex master three jesus got three u._s._b. So yeah no thanks. Here's one that i feel like should be really obvious but surprisingly i don't think is <hes> somebody said. Do you mind taking pictures with fans if they ask i don't mind is usually usually like pretty quick like hey. Oh you're marquez. Hey what's up. I like i've seen your videos. Can we take a quick picture and then yeah that's fine. It's awesome yeah we actually i think we saw someone out in rhode island when we were doing five g. and specifically saw him walking over and i saw the point i was like oh those guys know marquez's they're gonna come and ask for a picture i turned around for one second and turned around and they were walking away and i can only assume they felt that asking what if they were just pointing like what do giant tripod and the camcorder in the middle of college town. What is that very valid point but if anyone sees i mean i'm sure no one wants to take a picture with me but if anyone sees out around come say i yeah i like this one. If the tech in your studio could talk what's the craziest story of things that had seen that it would say oh my god. I needed this question like a month ago so i could really think through i mean there's the one there's the one wallpaper t._v. Literally committed suicide yet. That would definitely not one of those two i would. I would say that and the glass but the t._v. <hes> yes oh to these are both things that happened while we weren't in the studio but if there was like some sort sort of magic that happens when we leave the studio all the tech comes to life for some reason they just keep like jumping off of things breaking themselves <hes> the wallpaper tv. Which is you know l._g. Super thin lead that slaps against the magnets on the wall and has a couple of little hooks fell off the wall. <hes> actually we were in the studio. Okay i take that back. We were in the studio. Both had our backs to that t._v. And we both just heard a banging turned around than it was on the ground. We're like what has happened. Just fell off the wall with no apparent reason <hes> but the other one is the frosted glass on that table next next to my desk <hes> we weren't in the studio but i don't know for whatever reason it sits in the sun it gets a little crack in that crack develops over time and tempered glass specifically que- if it develops crack like that and heats and cools enough times it will just shatter it would spontaneously shatter and you don't exactly know when it's going to happen open. Maybe it's when it's heating up may bid right under an a._c. Vent and the a._c. Turns on and starts cooling it down and it starts expanding contracting too much but we came back in this room and it was <hes> shattered and that was pretty weird. Yeah i guess the only other thing i could say is there are probably plenty of objects in this studio that whenever we leaving even they come to toy story life they just cry and think why hasn't marquez paid attention. I don't think that'd be a high usage edged smartphone but here i have a jar with a whole my dead friends pretty much <hes> yeah sometimes we just don't have time to get everything and we'll we'll pull a box out of the closet closet. That's like oh. This could have been a video a year and a half ago so instead of saddam tesla roadster porsche taken. That's not even fair. It's the roadster obviously all right so this is comes from vaki dad. He said what is one sport. You cannot stand to watch or one that you've tried right and just immediately thought forget about this. Wow i gotta go trash on a sport now. Actually i have two answers. Okay gra <hes>. I've tried to watch baseball. I can't okay i have a i have a tip for watching baseball. I'm i'm not a huge baseball both fan either. There's this guy on youtube called chombo media who just takes these like two minute clips out of baseball segments. Whether it's a walk off home run or someone getting ojected from the game or i watched one the other day of a pitcher just throwing up on the mound. It's funny or crazy things that happened in baseball and he just commentators on them and they're made clear larry is so i don't watch baseball but i will put. I'll wait four or five days till he has like ten videos out because there's two minutes long. I'll just throw them on repeat and watch all of them and laugh hysterically anger up to date on baseball pretty much. That's all you need to know. Dang yeah i haven't. I've tried to watch live baseball and there's also i saw a couple of sports during the olympics. Were like you've never heard of like oh. This is fascinating thing. I'll like watch it for twenty minutes and be like all right cool. I get it and then you know. I don't really finish <hes> but the also the other thing is i've played golfer who fifteen years now and i love playing golf like i really enjoy playing golf and it's super cerebral libro and it's a really physically difficult game if you've never played golf it's so easy to say it's not difficult but you get out there when it's ninety degrees and you walk for five miles and you're trying to keep heap you're you're. You're together like really tough but watching golf on t._v. As much as they try and they've really tried they have like shot tracer racer now and they have all these multiple things happening at the same time i just can't. It's really really tough to watch golf on t._v. So i'll play golf anytime any time but i just i can't wash anything other than tiger on sunday at the massachusetts really tough at is there any sport. You've played that you're just like nah. This isn't me that i've played <hes> i played lacrosse for a year okay and lacrosse one of those sports kind of like football where you're just gonna get trucked and you just have to be okay with that and you have pads zahn but lacrosse you also have sticks that people are hitting you with the sticks and they can hit the gaps between the pads. They're not a lot of pets yeah. You're covered in bruises at the end of everything thing and i played for a season around high school where i was immediately which is basically pick the ball up and run for your life the other side pass it off to an offensive player and leave <hes> and there is a couple of times like i learning to play like picking up the ball where if you like sort of stutter picking up the ball a defensive player we'll have gotten to you by then and and he will absolutely one hundred percent hit you as hard as he can so <hes> macron's wasn't for me <hes> but i i've sort of found my sports today like playing now now. I guess i'm a man one. I can't a watched man. I just know how much i'm gonna do it. I don't like football watching football. I'll watch the super bowl every year yeah because that's more of a i like hanging out with all my friends and watching it but a sixty minute game where like eleven eleven of it is actually a play happening. I know everybody's going to say it's like chess. You're reading the defense. You're you're making an offense for. I totally get that football. Players are are probably some of the craziest athletes like watching those big guys just fucking run and truck people is incredible but under present that i can't watch it. I think what it comes down to for me is possession. Base sports are where possession switches back and forth often are like fun for me to watch. I watch watch basketball. You get a turnover you steal you score back and forth back and forth and then a timeout take a breather where you literally can't keep playing like that happens and ultimate back and forth. You play possession than it's over <hes> so i think golf is pretty slow. Baseball pretty slow football's pretty slow those sports that i don't watch as intently henley because those aren't as fast paced you could see that so the funny thing about a sport that i've played that i gave up on <hes> when i was younger i played hockey and it was so young to the point where i forgot that i had played. It and i started getting really really into hockey in high school and i just like made the joke of my mom one day like why didn't i ever play hockey. Blah blah. She's like oh you did and one day you said it was too cold on the i so i took you out of it and didn't play anymore. <hes> <hes> so yeah. Apparently the sport i quit on is the sport on the most die hard fan for right now. I'm devils fan <hes>. I can't wait wait for this upcoming season but yeah i quit the sport. I love the most it's gotta be cold out there to keep the ice prozac what i can tell. I guess too cold for me but well all right. I have pretty general one okay. What's the most exciting thing from tech timber and tech tober the most exciting thing coming up. You're probably going to try to buy that gonna try trying bhai yeah so one from tech timber and one from tech tober. The obvious easy answers for me are tech timber iphone on eleven pro matt black tech tober pixel for excel black but i'm gonna go with <hes> some not so <hes> obvious answers. I'm gonna go pro spoi- s._d._r. Hopefully in october. I have been waiting forever to have dual monitors again. I hate having a single monitor and having won. I max green on my desk has been bothering me for years now. I cannot wait to have dual monitors again. Someone say pro split s._d._r. Who flee and october and and <hes> in september. I'm going to go with a._c._s. r._g. Phone too. I'm really excited to get that phone in my hand burks to see that it seems like the spec dream and is is one of the best opportunity to see how well specs translate to real life because that thing looks incredible on paper so r._g. Phone too and pro display last year. I think i would have a hard time answering that question because in terms of buying things the big things are phone so i'm not someone who carries two phones. I mean i'm very excited for pixel four pixel flab so that's what i'm probably exciting most were for tech tober but tech timber. I'm just excited to play world of warcraft nice. The whole week is what is it for so you can say. That's something you say technically released in august but i didn't get to play until september number so yeah there we go. I'm counting that. I feel like such a nerd size but it is true. It is true that that was our little q. and a. session. If you guys i like the idea. Maybe send us a tweet if <hes> if you think the q._n._a. For every episode is a good idea or maybe we should do more topical q._n._a.'s. I think they're going to be great for when we have guests yeah so we can soon as for the guest and that'll be something we do in the near future but let me your feedback hit us up on twitter at w. f. r. m. and if you're listening to this this in spotify or apple podcasts are in google podcasts for free to leave a rating on the podcast as well anywhere you subscribe or listen. Yes yes so that's it. Thanks everyone for tuning in this episode. Three marquez brownlee andrew bandinelli your hosts a we're producing partnership with studio seventy one and the intro and outdoor music was created by cameron barlow.

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20 Aug 2020 | Porsche Taycan Gets Downloadable Upgrades

EV News Daily - Electric Car Podcast

20:04 min | 2 months ago

20 Aug 2020 | Porsche Taycan Gets Downloadable Upgrades

"Coming up on show eight, seventy two, the Porsche tycoon is going to feature downloadable upgrades in theory downgrades as well. Stick around we'll tell you more. Plus the Lucid Air will be the fastest charging E. V and offer vehicle to grid through the new home Georgia Panasonic investing one hundred, million in Tesla's gigabyte tree in Nevada and the fest pulse space for the UK. Well, good morning, good afternoon or good evening review listing around the world welcome to. Av News daily. Edition for Thursday twentieth of August Martin and like I through every AB story seat out half the it's a real tossup today. If what are we put I in the news? Is it going to be the Porsche's story or the loose story? Well, considering I went with lucid yesterday for the citing of their new SUV let's go with Porsche I. Arguably some would argue. The lucid story is even bigger but first of all, starting with the new Porsche Taikang as of next month in October, they'll be a new model year tycoon. It's being upgraded. It's going to be quicker. said, we get faster speeds to sixty, but also numerous innovations for tycoon at the change of the model year firstly, new plugin charge function plugin judge. Is, a new technology that is automated charging and payment. It's the dream. It's every non Tesla owner actually wants so and they're getting it certainly with other cars but firstly, with the on so all you have to do is blocking into the charge you pull up to the charger and you plug it in all of the things like the handshake, the billing. APPALACHIANS account or any account really the Netflix's account you have your credit card they bill you every month. Well, this is the same with plugging charge. You put your card details into your account and whenever you charge, it just gets taken out of your car. It's just the perfect perfect answer to the charging problems that we have a wallet full of. RFID cards and things like that. So also on the new Porsche tycoon, they're GONNA have F. O. D. or Ford functions own demand. This is potentially huge. See what you think as well as the faster acceleration as well. Physical changes to the new TICON AKARA head up display on board charger that is now twenty two kilowatts say see for the onboard judge. Says elect tribe for the plug charge technology is based around the ISO standard you sometimes they'll sit written ISO fifteen double one night, and all it means is that the car charges when you plug it in plug in charge is to go on the Iona stations in Germany Norway Denmark Sweden Finland Italy, and the Czech Republic twelve more European countries following at the beginning of next year and according to Porsche in the US and Canada plugging charge soon, available with electrify America and electrified. Canada. At many of that charging points as of the start of next year, drivers can subscribe only if you want to a a subscription service or you can opt in for certain functions with the new tycoon as well. Albany features on demand they call F. O. D. or faulds include automated driving features like active lane keep assist. The keeps the vehicle in the center of the Lane and continuous steering intervention as well. That's only ino dry, which adapts the speed of the e Com. They conditions ahead of you both functions are available if you want to rent them monthly or lease the monthly I, guess I don't know subscribe to the monthly. You can pay about twenty euros a month but both of those if you want to purchase them if you think you'll always want those features on your car you can permanently purchase them. For, eight, hundred, eighty euros bought it. I'm going to be using my car around town or I am I don't know like if you say you have tycoon at your second home and you're gonNA, drive it for six months. I'm thinking of examples when you wouldn't want these speeches but maybe you all going to go through a period where you do want to subscribe to these functions like active lane keep assist. Auto autopilot system and Ino drive so that it can look the GPS and way you're going and an adaptive speed according to the conditions, no less kind of things within you can pay you twenty dollars a month and subscribe to it and stop whenever you want to stop as per also car for the new two, thousand and twenty one model year. There's a battery preservation function that restricts charging capacity where appropriate and it will reduce the power loss because batteries degrade the mole that we pump power into them. Drawing them quickly as well. Batteries have a finite life. It's a very, very long time, but if you would like to a little more out of your battery and really the early eighties is still going strong battery life isn't a problem. But if you do on your eight hundred volt iona, t rapid charging station, electrify America or electrified Canada, there's a new function of the ticon you can select it. I'll on the the system and it limit the charging about two hundred kilowatts just slightly slower speed gives you a little bit. More longevity out of the battery over the long term, I should say, well, tycoon can be specified with what's called power God, which prevents a system overload when charging domestically and you can use as well this technology you can use. So if you have solar panels on panels on your home, this new function with ticon will know when you are sending to the grid and it will charge the car with excess Sola. Now, that's something that I can do with my particular charger I have one from a company called energy. It's the. V Two now have solar panels yet, but they're coming by the end of the year, and so I'll be able to do the same but three my charger it sounds like this new technology with the tycoon, its power God, and it means the colic soft with the on board charger. That's how it reads really impressive. So that's you portion news for today opening towards a car electricity in the show notes if you'd like to read more. Lucid News also big news. Today we found out the Lucid Air, the new saloon sedan coming from them. Next year will be the fastest charging ev. On the road, it's going to charge at three hundred kilowatts power. That's three hundred miles of range. In twenty minutes. I can't think of time when I would want to add three hundred miles of range in less than twenty minutes. Now, we recently learned that the air has an estimated five, hundred seventeen miles of EPA driving range combined with foss charging of charging over three hundred kilowatts of power. It will make the lucid area. The choice belong road trip says Tom Maloney at inside the lucid has the best of both worlds. It can charge the highest rate of any on the market and it's one of the most efficient. That combination makes it the fastest going. As in it's very, very efficient. So it goes further and then when you do reach charging, stop a charges quicken it's the fastest av to go point to point and can recharge Twenty miles of range a minute, which is Matt, isn't it twenty miles of range a minute on a nine hundred volt electrical architecture because some custom lithium ion cells using the twenty one seventy form factor cells, which you find in Tesla model three model y a cutting edge MS battery management system and thermal management system and the powertrain is efficient as well. Lucid has a nineteen point two kilowatt are on board charger AC charging that'll do eighty miles of range in an hour. So again, if you come across the two thousand kilowatt three phase charging postal pile as they call them in many countries. Then, you can charge really quickly. The other bit of news is lucid is developing a home Georgia that claims it will be the world's first AC charging station. With bidirectional charging most charges A. One Directional meaning electricity flows from the great to the vehicle. Now, there are some. bidirectional charges normally with the Chatham Oh plug and been in Japan. They've got some stuff very interesting going on trial projects around the world but nothing nothing really the Chatham Oh stand the plug is by Directional but they're all these pilot programs around the world which are being done with. The CCS plug or type two plugs, but the small-scale sounds like lucid have. This. So your home charge. We'll be able to use the bachelor in the car. So if there's a power cut in your home, if you've got an off grid vacation property lucid say and they according to the verge website at least they're home charger will be by directional. The first one offered I can't imagine it's going to be cheap, but the loose hair is not going to be a cheap car to begin with. So maybe those buys the funds. To purchase that's I can't wait to see this in action it's going to generate so many headlines when it finally hits the market. Panasonic is boosting production of batteries. For Tesla. Next year, they're going to invest another one, hundred, million dollars the Nikai learned today the investment will be made at a GIG. Vada. GIGAFACTORY ONE AKA the battery plant in Nevada thirteen production lines. Panasonic's going to add a fourteenth production line. I. Think ten percent capacity that means the theoretical capacity of that gigafactory is thirty nine gigawatt hours lost. We heard from Elon Musk then no when reaching, but it does mean if they're increasing the capacity, they must have made some gains since the last time we had. Cool that they were in the the twenty like mid twenties it was a long time ago remember Alan talking about how they weren't using the full capacity. Well, if they're writing more capacity, it must mean because they need it's the first capacity expansion of Gigi Nevada since Seventeen Panasonic's grading the batteries as well made that increasing the storage five percent we knew that what was coming that was reported little while ago but it looks like those cells start rolling off the lines in September. Annual production capacity will exceed a million vehicles next year the capacity for battery production is also increasing panasonic officials told the Nikai Dot com website. POLLSTAR has announced location of its first UK, Space Westfield in London also known as Westfield White, city or Westfield. Shepherd's Bush. It's a shopping center. It's by the way if you're interested, he goes to the top floor of the Cock Nice, little, Bank of Tesla superchargers to use that. But Anyway I, digress this is about postal if you know it. Then, Westfield's is a big location for footfall according to the website concept cars dot com. The Westfield space will be at the heart of where people go shopping and relaxing this. One of those places is just full of every possible shop that you won't have a some Sung store at Microsoft store and Apple Store jewelry stores. The top floor is all the restaurants. And stuff like that. As just huge, it's rammed on a quiet. They now pollstar opening up at Westfield the minimalist design an integrated digital interactivity means the products remains the focus, the pulse specialists and noncommissioned. So they are there to help you make a sale and they will direct you to the websites to audio car directly if you WANNA buy it in store. Let's talk about plug in hybrids from Volvo Paul Stars Halfon, arriving ahead of early twenty, twenty one of the fully electric EXC- forty. I love that car it's too expensive for me but I love that guy's ten grand than the poster, the new four C. recharge plugging. Comes into variants. Now t four and t five when it comes with the new t full plugin hybrid low power lower price opening up hybrid technology to a wider market in the UK one point five, three cylinder at one point, five, liter, three, cylinder, engine eighty, two horsepower motor, and a seven speed automatic transmission. The battery is Attila ten point seven kilowatt hours about twenty seven miles all electric range on that says the fleet weld website, but it's going to come in sub forty thousand pounds. That means that you don't pay the annual three hundred and twenty five pounds surcharge in this country vehicle excise duty and. For thirty, nine, thirty on the road, you can get your cars from October twenty twenty, the new lower priced recharge t four plug in hybrid, and in the States Volvo just cut their prices on their plug in hybrid lineup according to an early old guide prices for the two thousand twenty one model year recharge t eight plug in hybrids seven, thousand, seven, hundred, and fifty dollars cheaper than the current models the s sixty eight explain hybrid on it just got cheaper starting at forty eight and a half thousand including destination I seven, thousand, seven, hundred, and fifty dollars less than the current model says calls direct dotcom. Given the price. Cup. He's only on the plug INS. It means the price point moves closer towards the combustion versions, which is very, very good news. Firstly thanks to Jim now gymnasts at national car charging DOT com. One of our sponsors emailed me yesterday because I was asking you about the Lucid Story Lucid. We're doing a filming date with that new secretive suv and I read that they see hp had blocked the road an what are they stand for Jimmy to say it was the California Highway Patrol. Thank you for kindly informing me of that when electric vehicle drivers I mentioned Jim, you see because. He'll say runs ALOHA CHARGE DOT COM. Let's Talk Hawaii Electric vehicle drivers cow up at a brand new Hawaiian Electric Default charging station at the Alani. Do I say puck? Lonnie. Kalani tarry center in Upcountry Maui says Hawaiian Electric website publicly accessible DC fast charging and operated by Hawaiian. Electric. Actually is a lot cheaper during the days because in Hawaii lots of solar energy typically abundant cheap. Now here I get the cheapest prices overnight but I mean rainy cloudy. Great Britain, I'm not in lovely luscious Sunny Hawaii, and now the company expects to install new charges with the EV Maui right at three more locations wants the agreements a confirmed for the sites. Let's go to Russia as reported by the Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia Russia just made the world's cheapest ev well, I would question that because there's some very cheap vs in China they say it's because those calls on real cows anyway the new electric car the Russians have made is called the. CSM One out of the end of the year price tag, a five thousand euros, which is cheap designed and developed by the Russian engineering and Manufacturing Company says the Website Russ also news dot com. It's how motors four of them, twenty, seven, horsepower, hub motors. One hundred and twenty kilometers an hour it's going to ten kilowatt hour battery and you know I've got shoes bigger than this car. Only talking, it's a very, very small city car they claim it's. Okay. For four adults. I'm not sure you'd get much speed of it with four adults in it is tiny. It's a real. Small, small car by the look at on the dimensions online but. What go Russia for bringing an To the markets German state regulators are requiring solar power requiring solar panels on new nonresidential buildings. Many buildings get made with no thought of rooftop solar. The German. States of Baden verts and book is changing vats in its jurisdiction is requiring the all new nonresidential buildings have solar panels on them from two thousand twenty two says the website Clean Technica this follows a city state of Hamburg passing a similar law that goes into effect in two thousand, twenty three as a new building is being put up must take into account putting solar panels on top non residential buildings I mean look they have to think about the walls the roof. Putting the building up why not also build solar panels into the roof you gotta think about hooking the building up to the electric grid. New Nonresidential building. So why not think about solar at the same time typically, it hasn't been a payback for developers to do this, and if there's no payback, why would they do it out of the kindness of their hearts but now? Regulation says they have to and the final story today it's looking like the UK is remaining with the EU the European Union regulations on emissions after. We, leave the Union of the end of this year. A new consultation is being put out for comments until later this week according to elect drive this will then become legislation and the UK will mirror and keep the E. US emission reduction targets for cars and vans. From twenty five they've got to go down by fifteen percents and by twenty thirty by thirty seven point, five percents co two emissions. Emissions reductions. Carmakers will face fines, and of course, they were facing fines of euros and now we're leaving so it'll be pounds. Makers will face a fine of eighty six pounds per gram of co two exceeded across the fleet of cars they sell. The limit is ninety five grams per kilometer. Come when you factor is will still bice that targets on the average weight of vehicles sold so that UK not making anything more lenient those are not making things tighter like happens in California often California the last twenty years has led the green revolution in many ways because California's so big, they can say right you wanNA sell cars here. Here's your standards to set with emissions and of course. It tightens things up for the rest of the world really So the UK saying you know what? We're just GONNA stick to what we agreed with the e u not making things any tighter. Giving, the comic is an easy ride and that's a good thing because the UK does have some pretty ambitious, clean a targets. Not, entrust any politician as far as I can throw them. I'm sure there are some good ones but still too many bad apples and. I. Don't know. I. Think People say what they go to site to get elected. So sorry, being cynical this is a very, very positive podcast I make every day as positive as possible. This is just like twenty twenty, five minutes of sheer positivity and optimism about our electric future, but very occasionally allow myself to. Be a little bit cynical and forgive me if I don't believe every politician when they tell me that they are green of green anyway that's your show for today be enjoyed it. If you were to contact me email addresses hello at evening, News daily Dot Com, and on the website TV News daily Dot Com you'll see it looks a little different than it used to I've given it a bit of a huge a little bit of A. Spring clean in August looks a little different but the contact buddies now much clearer at the top just email me from there if you want to. Eight hundred and seventy. 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Episode 79  Changing Categories (and Tags) in Bulk

The WordPress Photography Podcast

04:24 min | 1 year ago

Episode 79 Changing Categories (and Tags) in Bulk

"Welcome to the WordPress photography podcast, the podcast for photographers who wanna learn how to get the most out of WordPress to grow their photography business. You don't need to be a geek to understand WordPress. Settled back and listen as we show you how. Now, here's your host, Scott widened kipah wits. Welcome to episode Seventy-nine money, MS Scott widened, give woods and today. I want to answer another question from you, the listeners the community photographers who were using WordPress in the WordPress for photographers group on Facebook. I personally run there was a question asked. Is there a way to change the category of three hundred posts in a quick way? The answer is. Yes. And what I wanna do is show you right now. How to go about that? So I created a dummy instance, and you can see right here. There are twenty posts that have one carry category. Call this category needs to be renamed I made and then there's another call the default category called uncategorized and two hundred ninety eight posts with that category. So I'm going to quickly just go back to the post list just to show you real quick how you can change the category. If you wanna see more. I post like three hundred posts you can hit the show screen options and change at two three hundred. However, if you're on a shared host if you're on a host that doesn't have their their PHP ramp up all the way as high as good possibly be you might find your having timeouts so it won't actually work. When you go to make a bulk changed, the three hundred posts so in this situation in might be worth going page by page, or or let's say increasing to fifty maybe a hundred but you go into like three hundred at one might wind up causing you some trouble. So, but that said you can select everything on the the pager on go to bulk actions. Hit edit you can actually in bulk remove a category. It you can do it. If you do one at a time, so you can quick at it and just remove one category. See if I go this now there's one that's category, but you can't actually remove category. One category in. In bulk from group oppose so that's a little tricky. So what you would have to do in this situation. Is you go to the categories posts in categories, and you can actually go to let's say you wanna rename this one called uncategorized has two hundred ninety eight posts in it. You can go and click edit for that category. And then change it from I from uncategorized or whatever to I just renamed this posts change of slug to renamed and then hit update and now all of them every single one has new category. You can see two hundred eight now have a new category with a new slug called I just renamed as post, so if you wanna go from from Porsche photography to to engagement for talker for you or you want to go from photography to wedding photography or something like that you can do that. The simplest way is just literally rename a post category in the categories tab, the other way if you have. Couple of post you want to do is to do it. Using the bulk options book at it's inside the post, but again, you can't really remove categories only add categories, so you could you wanted to add a new category, and then delete the old category through categories. So simplest way. Just edit rename the actual category. If you have any questions about categories, and by the way, this works with tags as well, then go to Amazon dot com slash podcast slash seventy nine and, you know, comment, let me hear your questions, and if you have other questions also comment so that I can address that question in a future. Thanks for watching. You've been listening to the WordPress photography podcast to listen to other episodes and to subscribe to the podcast by I tuned, Stitcher. Google play and more, please visit image -ly dot com. Forward slash podcast.

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Jeff Zwart - Director/Racer/Photographer

The Smoking Tire

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Jeff Zwart - Director/Racer/Photographer

"One is up everybody. Welcome to smoke entire podcast. Listen up real quick just about everyone. I know owns a trimmer. You know, the battery powered or plugging buzzer that trims your hair and just about every guys at a bad experience with a bad trimmer either blades. Get dull they start pulling hairs. They're really loud. The motor feels week it bad. The battery dies it freezes. I think it is time to upgrade to the brio beards. Gape I've been using the brio beard scape for about once a week for a year now, and I have yet to charge. It I charged it when I first got it. And it still has has a battery gauge on it. And it still has plenty of Jews. I'm talking like sixty five seventy shaves probably of used this thing. And it's still going the one of the reasons is the ceramic blade. Bluebird cates. Better it cuts better than steel. You don't have to lubricate it very much. It has less resistance. It stays extremely sharp. It's lovely and one. 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He one of the US rally championship. The dude is a legend, and he's a legend the Porsche community as well as a legend in the automotive media community, so considering I'm in both those clubs this dude is a massive hero of mine. Jeff's wart on the smoke entire podcast. Zoom in, sir. So we're on already. Now, you're looking at now, sir gets the smoke entire podcast before five Friday afternoon. We're a little early. That's okay. That's the best part about it. It doesn't matter. You like they'll get a little bit. It'll notifications like the ding. Yeah. Okay. Cool theory, cool other people get mad. Stand in the parking lot. Then good. I hope my phone is silent. Oh, you gotta check that to legend cheifs wart is in the studio turning his phone to silent. Hello, sir. Hello, welcome. Thank you. Thank you. We're coming down. So only taking me two years. It's on slow. You'll you're you're like, the most traveled parson that there is I think it it does how how many airlines do a million miles on right now. I just have one. But I have a lot of millions with one how many millions millions who million. All right with the United your United that works out. It. I lived in Colorado for serve. Yep. Yeah. Sometimes do choice. Yeah. Well, I'm glad you are finally in LA with her voice allegedly. Yes. Holds out it will if you have like a little recall of thing happening, your golden share share with the group, buddy. No. Yeah. Dude. You're you. You know, how to earn a living in a really great way, you figured out the sh the I don't know the secret to what maybe work life balance? Can we call that? Yeah. I think that I mean, it's kind of perpetual motion in a way where. You know, what I do feeds me in so many ways, and it serves so many needs personally, and and just from an entertainment standpoint because you know, the things that I get the photograph for the most part are influenced by my own racing. And then my racing is influenced by my filming. It. It's one kicks the ball a little to the next to the thing that Bill, and it's just it's funny because I often described it, you know, my rallying and racing down roads. Like that is just high-speed location. Scouting pretty much. Yeah. You're you're a master of Recci. Yup. So good. They give you a trophy. I was national champion. What is the best rental car? You have erected. Oh. It was better in the old days when you could just kick off the air cleaner and have the police pursuit sound that was the froing that out the window right away. Were you ever like part of those? You know, you've heard those stories of the people who like fucking swapped engines out of round bar. But there was you were you were you privy to that actually happening in period as it were. I heard funny story because I used to cover the runoffs the SEC runoff now used to hear funny stories that happened for people in the parking lot at event, so because it was the national championship, and any meet you really really need that steering. And he's exactly right. We see that in, you know, our little cheap car racing reducing times to you'll see someone who I mean, my friend, Jack, Bruce and his wife, Charlie via they pull the gearbox out of their daily driver go into the race car, and then broke it. Oh, no. I actually don't doubt it because they don't even when I was running the paraly- championship. You know, as the cars, we were driving were still relatively obscure, you know, so Mazda three to three or, you know, those things which is what I was racing Yuna three two three with now. Those amazing six cylinders to have a six now as turbos. All this before the eighty. Eighty nine hundred more of like a normal car back. Yeah. Okay. So I ran one of those. I remember, you know, people there were several running in the events. And there is always the need for taking something off as spectators gar gun. Got you need really helpful spectators. That's for sure. To push people that were in a hurry to go home. Rallying is the greatest sport. That is the hardest sport to watch. It's like it's just except for, you know, the occasional WRC, you know, helicopter and seventy cameras it's impossible to. Yeah. It was it was even worse than the US because of the, you know, basically, how dangerous it was to run on public roads. Yeah. Everything when I was running was at night, literally the rally start till at night, and is because there'd be less traffic, and so traffic, and if somebody was coming out of the way, he had lights and all that sort of thing. But it, but literally our rally championship was maybe to do stages in the daytime everything night, which you know, you go to sponsor and say I want to run a full championships, we're cheap. And by the way it runs. No one's going to see. Yeah. Yeah. How how in hindsight? It was it like how much can here is it to rally at night. You know, it was it. It's fortunately, kind of all equal everything. But I will say I drove in the world championship rally New Zealand, and I drove a Mitsubishi ego. And I had you know, a full on WRC co-driver for me to work with. And he had told me that with notes I'll be just as fast in the day in the night as I was in the day. And we went and ran a in New Zealand rally ran a stage twice once in the day. And once and that was absolutely true. You could you when you started dialing in on the notes and just fully listening to it and going very little by what you're seeing. It was pretty amazing like was it. Good enough for you almost got close. My eyes. But I do remember the stage that we ran in the day, you know, day, and then we ran at night. Here's three jumps three rises. And I just remember we were like you. They were the first one was flat. The second one was a lift and the third one was flat of heading. And so you're coming down his rises and come over the first one flat. And you know, your headlights are aimed up high in the trees, and then they come down, and they reveal that. Okay. That was. The. Crest four something. So you're backed off a bit back off a bit headlights go up, and then it comes down, and you see the mmediately why it was across for. So then you hit the third one, and you've already seen what it's like if you get screwed up and he hit the third one. And I just remember flat out foot straight to the floor. And no way was my mind saying, that's what should be doing. Leave my foot down and has headlights just stayed in the trees, the jump was much bigger though. And I just think it we aren't even. I know see Rodas point. And when the headlights get down. It was like okay is a straight road. So so I did a tiny little jump in a car once tiniest little bullshit tabletop where I think I probably travelled the length of this table in the air like not very far. It was the most fun thing jumping a car. If you know that it's going to be okay. Yeah. Is the just especially when the landings are really nice downhill landing is just like, it's like, you never left the ground. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a carry. I love the I love the watching that that glide lovely. So all right. You have had an extraordinary career. That's still ongoing certainly nowhere near done of of of racing of photography of cinematography, directing you got this movie with Patrick Dempsey coming out. Where do we even start? We gotta to go back to like the sixties. Right. Is that is that the my phone? I hear vibrating counter is. Oh my God. I it's gonna drive me nuts. Two seconds. Drive me insane. Enough battery to get home. All right. Sorry. Where do we go nineteen sixty four? Yeah. Porsche nine. Oh, one the obvious start there share. We could start there. Apparently, your pops had one of these things just as a car. Yep. Just as a car, and that was a funny thing is that, you know, my my parents usually had a Volkswagen bug and something bigger, California, California for the most part, but Delaware also. So we kind of split to coast. Okay. And in Delaware. Actually, we got a nineteen sixty four three fifty six e the zone with skis on it on your. Yeah. That is that is so ninety sixty four three hundred sixty and that was the first new first and only new portion my dad ever got. And so we, but the interesting thing has happened about I don't know about a month before my birthday. And they said, you know, for your birthday, we're gonna take a trip and your this new car, and I thought that was so cool. We went to the Indy. Five hundred. That's awesome. And so I was pretty well sold on Porsches and sold on racing got there. So it was cool. But going, you know further along that my father did by us nine eleven, and we kind we always kind of knew it was an early nine eleven, but you know, that nine elevens are progressing fairly quickly. And you know, it was just kind of an old nine eleven. Well, we were at riverside raceway one of the Porsche owner clubs things. And there was a guy there who said, oh, you know, I've got chassis number twenty nine or twenty nine of of nine eleven the twenty ninth car built my dad goes, oh, I think our cars are really early car. So when you know, he looked at his number there at riverside. He's or ours is thirty five instill that was like, no big deal. It was just really old that thirty fifth nine eleven will, you know in hindsight? This was the ninety one real the true, you know, before a million dollars. Yeah. Yeah. And my dad loves hearing that and you still have it. No. That'd be that would be that would be crazy. But but I that's the car. I learned to drive in and. Yeah. And I just you know, for me, we went to Las L amigos race track parking lot. There was the biggest area near our house. That was I couldn't run in anything. And I remember my dad came downstairs that morning and said on Sunday morning. He says, okay, you're gonna learn to drive today. And we're going to take the nine eleven because it has more power, and you won't stall it, right? Yeah. You'll toward this was like I gear way over and all that kind of wacky stuff. And you know, I just remember sadly in there, and I had a wooden steering wheel. And I just remember growl 'hold a steering wheel and your feet or over on the side. And this first gears way down clutch everything seem, you know, it just it was just such a I think we all remember the first drive. Yeah. And then, you know, here, I am you know, how many layers lakes drove an air cooled Porsche. I was like none of this makes any exactly that only driven like normal. You know modern cars like it was an eighty two or something I was probably like seventeen and I was like what does the, you know, this you guys, you know, this is a hands on the. The petals are on the floor like what really bizarre really different from anything else. Yeah. It wa-. And but for me was your best. You're only experience. I'd always ridden in veteran like what's wrong with the Super Bowl. So you know, I took off around the parking lot there. And I mean, it was just it was so special, but you know to think back on it now. And especially where you know, I've traveled through the Porsche world to think that that was so yeah. So you have. Yeah. You could probably febru- tracked that vehicle down it. Well, okay. So road and track did a story on this subject. What I learned to drive him. And I actually had heard that the car had been stolen my dad's sold it to somebody in Seattle. I heard the car had been stolen and then run some reader and road and track as they do went clear to the bottom of it. And and actually owned it and found that it was truly stolen and actually talk to the widow of the guy who's who had bought the car. So it was confirmed again. And if you look you can imagine, you know, for those first hundred cars or whatever there's quite a registry. Yeah. And chassis thirty five's always a blanket of that's so sad. Blank financing missing man. Kind of is now identified as my dad's car, so it's kind of cool guy whoever stole whoever got stuck with it. Yeah. But you know, what happened in those days is. And I remember it clearly 'cause you're Volvo Porsche club. If a car got stolen fenders were cut off everything was taken out of it was worth more for its parts than it was for cars. So yeah, the Integra type r Hamuli. Yeah. All right. So you now know how to drive you've got a family with some portions. And and at what point do you decide photography cinematography is going to be a career or or that you're going to drive race cars on the side. Pick a fork. Yeah. Well, definitely I was really attracted to racing. But nobody in my family was, you know, knew anything about it other than we like to go do it as a spectator. Dad took me to riverside all the time and to raise his whenever he could because he was a big fan. But the thing that happened is that I just didn't I wasn't mechanically inclined. And you know, I wasn't didn't know how to become a driver, and I was living in Germany. And so a nudge you and say it's helps if you're I start on that we know. I don't even remember that part of it. I just I just remember that you know, when I was in Germany, and I was going I was studying to be a veterinarian I was over there. And I was going to his when I could on the weekends and the people that were closest to the action and on the other side of the fence from where I was we're the photographer. Oh, yeah. And so I just said jeez. You know, I I'm not mechanical I I don't know anything about driving. But if I want to be around racing why don't I become a photographer and then so I shot races. While I was over there and kind of did things along the way, and I wrote my parents a letter saying, you know, I just don't think veterinary medicines where I should be. I really wanna come home and study photography, and that was kind of wild for my parents because they weren't of art kind of background. And I remember my dad said, well, you need you have interest in the cut of artsy version of it as well. Or did you just like doing kind of action sports type stacks in sports? I mean, I liked photogr. Lifer. Kind of. And I I remember photographing. I wanted to photograph things I liked being around. Yeah. And so that was the main thing, and it was interesting because it wasn't you know, I just never equated to every billboard. You drove by every magazine, you opened up all the stuff that somebody is getting paid to do that. I just didn't some a lot. And I didn't have anybody that I'd grown up with doing that. So I didn't have an example. And it wasn't until I got art center that they actually said, you know, this is a career that's money making career as opposed to you know. So you you went to art center here, and from your time there, they taught you that this can be a business, and here's how you do it. Yeah. The difference between fucking jealous of that. I went to art school. I was studying talk graffiti, you Penn like the best business school country. I studied art, and it was all fucking frou frou high-concept shit. Yeah. And I was like how do I make money at this jazz me, please? You know, I wish they did that and. I should've gone to arts center will he did that. And that was the difference is I looked at RIT. I looked at Brooks. I looked at art center. And when I got art center, you know, there's really maybe only ten percent of the teachers are full time. There actually is there any striking. And I remember like maybe the fourth or fifth week of school. We went to this photographer who had a studio. My one of my instructors had a studio, and he got the parkas cars inside his studio. Oh, you thought that was the cool. Yeah. It's like a Dan Tanna moment. Shitty. Has an adult hand. It's almost like a really nice tree. Yeah. Big enough for a car, a nice, fresh seamless and like ooh, soft box. When I saw that. I was like sold. I go. I gotta I gotta do this thing. So the for those who don't know arts center in Pasadena, by the way is also wear a lot of car designers end up going. They have a great program for that literally drawing than doing interiors on clays and all that kind of crazy. Yeah. And that was the fun thing for me is because you know, generally. Everybody. There was wanting to shoot tabletop things or girls, or whatever I was just there to shoot cars. And so nobody in photography, you know, the photography classes were really interested in the car thing. But I had this whole transportation design there. So I got to be buddies with a lot of the guys there who went on. And did lots of great things. And I grew up with Freeman Thomas. Oh, yeah. So it's kinda cool because you know, he did the t t did so many great things along but not a lightweight. Yeah. He's like mister like kind of bow house. Totally so baseball gloves stitch seats. Yes. That's exactly right. Why didn't those last that was awesome? When will there be a throwback? It's gotta be time. Maybe on Audi's, their whatever their their their version of the taken is a sport GT. Yeah. Whatever that's called. Yeah. Each Ron jacuzzi because that actually looks like a pretty good car to throw the baseball, John. That'll be it. They'll pay for it. You know, they'll pay for events in a leather fusebox Hersey shit. Art center must have been what years were you there? Seventy seven to seventy nine must have been good time. Yeah. It was definitely. And it was when they just moved to the new campus with the building building and buildings really. And it's still cool. Yeah. Designing building. And I was just like it was it was cool. And it was so different than my kind of science and biology kind of background that I was before. So it was it was great. And I, you know, skateboarding every afternoon in kind of it was just the full, and, you know, all California, and like I live like forty five fifty miles away from it. So when you got there, you were fully, you know, Merced in school was good that, you know, we're talking about obviously film, and you know, the the business of photography. I think although it sort of settled a bit now, you know, for between, you know, two thousand and two thousand fifteen it's a little kind of like, whoa cat. Is anyone make any money wasn't already here before but like in the early eighties. What happens when you graduate with a degree in dog March Senator do you get gigs like like right away? You know? I was they kind of presented it as you come out. And you either be an intern. One of the photographers that slave or you know, you could do it on your own which is what I chose to do. And it was kind of funny. I was going to school during the gas crisis. You know, in every manufacturer is trying to figure out how to you know, milk every gallon out of the car, and I graduated in the turbocharged there graduated in seventy nine, you know. So all of a sudden, you know, Porsche was on the market and everybody was just gearing. Thanks was making Bank. And so it was it was really a kind of a turbocharged era for me to come into. And my world was all about racing and doing that stuff. And so my highest aspirin at art center was to someday shoot something for road and track magazine. Uh-huh. My very first assignment was to shoot a cover for them. Fuck out of here. Very I I it was it. It was with a two. What would it have been three hundred zero? Yeah, we it was it was as the sea. Now is that like? So is that almost deflate because it's like well now what where do I go? I think it would have been because it was my dream as a kid to write for now. I do right for road and track. And I when I see like the banner, especially in a print magazine, you know, it feels nice, and it's good to see my name there. And that's what I that's kind of my motivation to was that, you know, I just wanted to shoot I just love she what was your what was your into road and track? What was your relationship to getting into? That magazine is when I lived in Europe in well when I made one of my first trips to your before even lived there in seventy three I was there. And I went to the Porsche factory when it was closed and went to the bat Wally world, again showed up went to the back fence of it. And there were the seventy four cars sitting there with the bumpers the g models, but the new bumpers. On them. So I we're talking like spy shooting down. So I, but I wasn't. I wasn't the spying. It was just that. I happen to be you know, having to catch. And so, and I shot those at shot the pictures, and then I didn't really know what to do with them. But I knew that the guy at road and track that was totally in the Porsche's was Joe Roos. And so I brought Joe Roos pictures of the seventy four bumpers like Hurson, wait there in person. Yeah. Mundane person and brought them to him. And he's really good. You know, and all this stuff. And he was glad to see the pictures, and but it kind of opened the door. Yeah. So then, you know, five years later, or whatever I was there. Okay. And got got my first gig. You know, I think when you said it before I think, I think I misunderstood this thing with your first gig out of college was to shoot a cover for and track was wouldn't my I know my first gig was first gig with them with them it instead of just doing editorials ended up shooting a cover. So. Still very beast beast as yours a diploma in the way, we want you for the cover. Now, what was your first gigs out of out of school funny things that kind of either through family, or whatever I had some connections with one of my parents friends worked at global van lines. So I shot global van line. You know, the buses they were the movers. Oh, yeah. So I chewed house getting move in and out, and then there was some sort of vitamin company, I shot foes. Those good ones. And then and then also on-track magazine, Paul Oxman existed. And I did some things for them and sports car magazine. Actually, I was shooting for sports car magazine because they were the SEC racing. I shot for them. Even while I was in school. Oh, cool. So yeah, you're definitely working. Yeah. No, I was so I didn't choose the intern way. And you know, like shows the slave way, you know, who I was a slave for who you probably know him, Michael Furman. Oh, yeah. Out of college. I was a slave from Michael farmer coast. Boston east coast. Yeah. Just briefly. Yeah. But he was it was very cool to watch the stewed work Michael Furman photograph because it's studio classic cars in studios with the biggest soft box you've ever seen. And he was like the, you know, he was doing it before anybody. And I n he's still, you know, I. I talked to him last year. Still going good. The the the the detail work you get with the light was. And he he just shot things in a different way than anybody. And I remember his studio he kind of was like all in one living and studio or something like that. Yeah. It was like to me. It was like my fantasy like that was too cool. So f you a oh there it is. Yeah. So yeah. So there's all that top row there. He shot the whole Ralph Lauren book. Yeah. Let me go. Yeah. As is the work is very it's got a very specific look. Yeah. It's very cool. No. And I'm glad to see him still doing it. He actually has has a pop up every year Monterey week in. Yeah. Yeah. Now GT1.. Yep. Driven a GT1.. Yes. I have the best. It's it's funny because it's restrict car race car or I've driven both. Okay. But I drove the streetcar just last summer, I think, and it's a funny thing because you sit in it in it, you know, somewhat nine eleven feeling you feel so buried in like, there's such a big car around you. But it's one of those cars where the fast you drive, it the smaller get, but what was funny as it's feels kind of nine eleven the way you sit in it. But it's fully nine sixty to the way. It sounds just cry just crazy now and just it's just deep in it torque, and it just pulls like crazy. And it is it's a cool car. Is it will that that ain't Tim? That's. Guy. He's still on the Michael firm. The GT1. is it is it nine eleven thirty ish like in how it drives. Or is it just a completely differently? It's full nine sixty two feels in the bushings and this has bench and in the lack of movement on the car itself when you're driving it, you know, it's just it's full race car. So are the street versions remotely street Abol? I think was a joke. It's a bit of a joke because the overhangs. Yeah. Just like getting in anywhere. I mean, certainly if you were to drive you had one you're pretty much boss. If you had a streetcar would would I be seeing you in and tranquil though. You know, six up there does Charlotte. No, he's still going to sell it. I know six is a keeper. I thought you I don't know why you're taking it to some heavy hitter auction to sell. No that thing rules. Yeah. It's neat. Because way ways fourteen hundred pound. Yeah. I mean, like, I always say like manufacturers have figured out how to replicate everything, but they can't make lightweight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They can hide it doesn't really nature of that. And the fact that there's this thing that the bubble, Tom. Can you Tim you get a picture of a portion nine hundred six it is it's a it's a bubble. Canopy kind of meat engine. Lamar type race card. Does your does your savvy race history inches work to the search? And you'll get his specific when I got the car it came with the logbooks in all the cases where that's it. I saw this motherfucker at cars and coffee with this thing like a boss this thing rules, but you must be cooking in the summer. And it's funny. When you you realize when you look at the target Florio pictures of the car, they have the top of the windshield windows all tape down. So it take care of. But it is cooking. Dupes it in. I drove it to Monterey once from here. And you know, it has an gas enough to drive an hour in an hour. You're ready to get out body enough thirty minutes, Peter Egan, and I drove it up there. Yeah. It was a good one. That was that was that a road and track story. Yeah. I gotta dig that one out. I had my own issues seven guarantee, you I have I have every road and track from eighty nine till today. We're really well. Yeah. I go big big catalog. I was obsessed. I was I was my favorite magazine growing up, but you also manage to not just shoot editorials, but also shoot like the official manufacturer talking including some of my favorite Porsche ads in the kills bugs fast now. No. But I did the jumping jumping. Yeah. Mike might be conflicting the two now. And and but the jumping turbo and that was like a poster and seinfeld's apartment. Yeah. It was like it was everywhere. So if the funny part was we shot that, and you know, I don't know. It's probably six months later, if you remember they did a mailing of those jumping shots to all potential Porsche customer, and I got it and it had Jeff on the license plate. They put your license your name on the lesson. But it was quite a quite a favor shot. So it funny story and shooting. It didn't you wreck you that. And like your own car. Which country was let's just say the test jump was a little bigger than we thought. Better than doing. It was a nine three. Right. It was it was a nine six six four. Turbo. Yeah. Jim was trying to find pictures. Yeah. Good luck, sir. Man jumping turbo Porsche. What was your mosier? First film camera. I'm gonna it out and also super eight. Yeah. In high school, I shot super eight movies. Okay. Just told never equating it that I might do it some day. It was just something that was fun to do. And I used to shoot likely going to say and riverside with it and stuff. So, but it was when all to super eight when did you first starting getting professional of video gigs? Well, that's a that was actually a definitive transition. American photographer did a story on me of being the high performance the talker in you know, basically, that's all I did was high-performance, and they did a cover story. Whole piece on an American photographer was the definitive American photography magazine. And in there, I just kind of told my whole story of shooting all his high action stuff out of that three offers came to join production companies, and I. Ended up joining radical media. But the thing was I thought there'd be like a two year transition. Yeah. My first what was nice as I had so many clients already from advertising, you know, and I was shooting. I was shooting virtually all Porsche, most of Mercedes all of BMW, and then a bunch of, you know, American clients everything, but but all of BMW, I was do, you know, the ultimate driving machine? Does really that way? I shot everything. I mean, sixty. That's a lot of model models promoting totally. And I, but I, but it was cool. Because in those days were those at the the static of those. I don't know high action thirty five million. Remember, the m three with the front wheel lift I shot. Cool. Yeah. So you know, it was that kind of thing. But, but what was cool as in those days advertising agencies would pick you for your look and stick with you. You know, and it was their look, and I think for three years, I was the only BMW photographer. So you know, and everything look that way. And I shot all the dealer shot national advertising all the dealer advertising and all the dealer, you know, posters and everything else. So I was probably doing sixty pieces a year. That's a long time. A ton about your full-time gig pretty much too. To Porsche didn't have as much going on and neither immoral almost out of money. Yeah. It was. It was funny because you know, when I shot the nine six fours, I think what would this been ninety three or something? You know, you could almost equate for the number of cars selling and how much they're paying me. How many dollars each car was fees does not of raising thousand cars like three thousand so. Yes. Yes. Probably it was a couple hundred dollars or look at it. Now. It's like I mean, at least for me like I look at night six fours as being one of the coolest cars around. And they were they were released cool for about ten years. Yeah. Remember this all happened? I why were they so uncool? I don't know. Whether it's on cool is just the sign of the times or something because this is when they just moved to Reno and they lengthen the runway because they thought they'd fly all the cars in with seven forty sevens. I mean, they were like and Miniver gave them a great deal to be there and all this stuff, and it just nothing panned out in in there. And then they've moved to Atlanta. And then things to cough slighted. They think Reno was going to be attacked. Oh, well, yeah. Yeah. And had ad for Bill harra. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. But it was a good. It was fun times. Because going back to the Royal side of things, you know, in road and track you'd like you were saying, you get your name next everything. And so I- instead of having a rep and things like that. I was just shooting as much as I could for road and track. I you know, I shot lots of covers for them. And there was just this identity that you know, Jeff's wart was doing this stuff editorially. How would that apply to my advertising? And then once they advertising kicked in. I was I took off, and I just transitioned in new you were talking about like how you you come out of school, and you get a road and track cover. What else? Do you do? Well, I really immediately kinda saw the big picture and saw everything was working. And I actually never thought I'd be into film, but because of the area that I was shooting in which was high action because my high action style photography carried through all. Sorts of things in funny enough, I used to shoot to form a lot of Formula one races for road and try and this is just shows you how bizarre it as I was shooting Formula one race. I get a call from Northrop aviation. Yeah. And they call me up and say, you know, you need to come in. And we would like to talk to you about shooting some are advertising. What would that be? I get into this meeting. They have all my Formula one stuff laid out on the conference table. And they say if you can stop Formula one cars, do you think you could do something with our fighter planes? Yeah. And so I so I started with the project or the F twenty which was this third world country kind of it was a private fighter plane. You know, that that they were selling till they were going to sell to other countries and do things, and it was it was a spin off of the t thirty eight and the F five, and that's okay. But so the first one I shot was red white and black all sports card out. It was really cool. And then and then we use. Plane to plane from the role. So here's the deal. Listen, I'm going to need to go up there. Yeah. Well, so here's the deal is that I shot they didn't have any two seaters of of twenty. But we used one of the F twenty s and BMW shot group was cars that I was shooting and that being we painted it BMW gray per Flaine. And after that, then we started shooting at all over again. And that all came from my association with BMW will then they took on the teen program. And all of a sudden, I was Martin Baker ejection seat certified, and I was flying all the time on different missions on. And also, they never fly for you. You know, dedicated. Yeah. Us go out. So I'd get to a briefing in the morning, and they would be okay today. We're going to do hygiene dog fights, and you'll be able to shoot on the transition out there and shoot on the transition back. And are they doing this to to develop the planes or to train pilots or is all the navy? I was with the name was with Northrop at this point. You're well, I'm still working for Northrop, but I was lying within. I was with VFW one twenty five which is based in Lamar, and, but I went through all my Jackson seats simulation. All my lottery survive, it was wild because you know, the objection seats simulator was eight to nine. Jeez. Okay. So then what do they what do they say seats simulate? Okay. So you go through all the tr-. You get all the low down and training. And then you sit in the ojection seat, which is the full on ecstasy, and it has a big ramp up above you, buy two stories up, and basically you're sitting in there, and then they call for the action, and you get into your position to do it. And then then they launch you up. You know, this, you know, eighteen a railing rail, but it was eight to nine geez, now way real ejection is eighteen to nineteen and they would give you stats like, you know, only like thirty percent of them or without you know, some sort of injury. Know all sorts of things and they punch a puncture through the canopy. There's because it's a carrier based plane. It doesn't have any time or through. Yeah. So it has a splitter on top of way. So so that whole like blowing the canopy first thing bullshit planes, some planes do but but not all planes do. So because I was Martin Baker certified, and you know, you carry a card I. You have the brain Mont watch the brave Mont objective seat. Very very special thing is you know, I used to fly on these missions. And and we would I would have all my camera. You know, I'd have to camera bodies lenses, all and there's no rooms they're kind of sitting in your lap. And you go I'm not going to Jack down here with all this stuff. So it's like a fun. So yeah, there's that's the that's the brain mont-. Yeah. So yeah. If you're if you're a Jek seat, certified you can buy this special Raymont or Martin Baker edition watch. And the watch is meant to survive the the ejection good. That's probably would've been the only I have the hookup get down on it. Yeah. Well, I tell you a funny story, though, is that we were formation flying back to the base one day. And we're we're flying along in, you know, literally, the planes are all flying wing tipped away out there, and the way they create the gap for landing as they peel off. And then the next one peels off in the next one peels off, and that's the gaps Matic. Yeah. So it's real demand. So I'm shooting all this outside the window and in in funny enough because it was all glass, canopy. I would actually we'd put up a black curtain in there. So that I could pull the curtain between me and the my the. So it didn't reflect talk show. Yeah. It wasn't real comfortable all stuff going on in their first plane peels off, and I'm shooting this and I'm looking out over the wing tip. And you know, the guy that's next to you is close enough that if he held a playing card you could tell what it was was seriously. So the first plane peels off second plane peels off third plane peels and the next the plane right next to me. I'm Ray this'll be really good, you know, shoot it when he peels off it never occurred to me we were gonna peel off. So he goes, oh, that's good. I'm gonna put my camera away. My head goes down asked. If you're the security your gear, you're wearing a g suit and a head goes down. And of course, you know, your actions snap your head back up. And it's just like everything blink blink down to this little and I'm thinking, I can't go. Okay. Go get this little white die on gone. And then bring it all came back. Close as I came to pass degree also flying around fighter plans. I mean, that's pretty that's pretty cool stuff. Yeah. So that was really beyond most typical photography gigs. That's that's short Mary. I was very fortunate Northrop really gave me a lot opportunity and because I had Martin Baker ejection seat certification. I flew in everything. I do I flew in F16.'s I flew in sub chase I flew development shit ever. So you've been off a carrier. Well, that's a funny story. I went out sailed out of this errand Cisco port underneath the Golden Gate Bridge, which was wild. Because the carry, you know, how you'd see that gap. Do the bridge under barely made. This is on the carrier. Oh, yeah. And you barely make it under there with you. When you're on that ship big that you're literally looking up right at the bottom of the bridge. So so we go down, and we it's sunset time. We wake up this is how fast those carriers. Are we wake up off the coast of Mexico from San Francisco Cisco, we'll overnight overnight. So oh, yeah. So we doing like thirty they more than that these nuclear reactors everything. Yeah. Yeah. So I am. So we get down there. And we do see trials for five days. And so I've been through water survival. I'd been through all the stuff the very first day. I'm shooting on the deck in the very first day one of the arresting hooks breaks on one of the F eighteens, and they grounded all backseat. Oh, that's out there five days. But I it was if five day vacation aircraft phenomenal. Jim Carey you low it you slept in the officers quarters. I'm talking about. Yeah. The hot monkey. I wasn't looking forward to. Yeah. So what does that like to spend a couple days on a carrier with no, real, work obligation? Well, no, I I mean, I was shooting everything on it was really cool because it would be nothing going on. So I'd be just sky. Sky empty. Yeah. So there'd be nothing. And then all of a sudden, there'd be three hundred landings and takeoffs a day kind of thing. And it would just light up like as fast as planes hitting the deck. They're putting them down below or they're resetting them. And it just it's total. It just seems like it's it's just chaos, but it's not an interesting thing too. Is you're wearing a vest that actually the color means where you can go, and I had a green vest, which meant I could go anywhere, and it was wild. Because you know, there's no chaperones or anything. I was I just want. I'd have to watch the guys on the deck. What's going on? But it was serious though. Yeah. It was awesome. What a great gig. And how cool is that was good? So that that kind of thing really define me as being this high action photographer, and it led to the American photographer story, and that story then ultimately gave me three offers direct television. So that's where it went. So where did where did when did weekend racing or become when did it become a more serious thing because entering a, you know, one thing to do a couple of local rallies, but like going to New Zealand injury. Exactly unless you're Bill Caswell case. It's a Thursday. I liked that. I liked that Bill did as awesome. But he's he's a nut is great. I've been at a few eventually evidence is really great. I mean, I just love that lunch. And then like at four in the morning, you're still at the bar. No, I, you know, it's funny when I first got out of school. I was doing things or sports car magazine, or whatever, and I went to driving schools to do stories. And so I went to bond rent school went to British school motoracing and went to Jim Russell school. And it was kind of one of those things where thank goodness for it. But it was like an immersion thing where the writer and the photographer just basically went through the school and shot at so. So I went through that. So yeah. So every the three schools that I did basically, I was the quickest guy and the guys were kept saying, oh, you should look into doing as well. Of course, they you know, they want everybody to be key become a race. But but there is a pilot a pilot. It's like, here's your thirty minute. Test flight, okay nights, a sun for twenty grand in class. Right. Well, so anyway, I had a lot of positive feedback that I should really be doing more racing. And the gym the sea. Was a British school of motor racing actually had a pro racing series of Formula Ford racing series on the west coast here, and they had really liked what I'd done in the school. And so they invited me into that. And so I ran three or four races on the west coast here at riverside and Laguna say and ran in the pro Ford series. Well, once that was over I didn't really have much else to do. So that was was that literally just just by a car enter the races that no they had a series. They had race arrive in Dr. Yeah, arriving Skippy like stuck me us series, or whatever. So I Iran that on the west coast, which was kind of their pro series, meaning everybody pay to do it. And and which is the opposite of so. So then then after that, I basically I went back to work and shot all these things and and well in formula cars. Yeah. I did. I was a better qualifier than racer. But time told with the raising. It was good. And we'll cars man when you going wheel and open. It's a different kind of ball. I don't personally have it open. Our scare me. Yeah. You know? I I I've never really felt much different in either one of the open Wheeler sports cars or whatever. But but funding on a Mazda job the Mazda client demanded that I work with their under their drivers and their driver was rod Millen. And I said, no, I've got my own drivers. I don't need. You know, I'm fine. Don't need Mellon is that what you need to work with him because he's in a contract with this will ride and I shot together on the first job. And I ended up doing a lot of Mazda work. So we shot together a lot we have coming really good friends route rules. Yeah. And rod was fantastic. And he was running in the rally of championship. And I'd always loved rallying. But I just didn't again didn't know how to do it. Yeah. And so here, I was working with the national champion whole deal. He had a full fab shot all that stuff. And it was. His brother who is chasing me. One day rental cars, we were screwing around and rental car is going back location. He goes, you know, you should really look into rallying you should e that'd be his brother Steve. Yes. Good friend of the show been on the show a bunch. So Steve was actually the one that said the words you should really look in the rallying because you'd be pretty good at it. And so I went back to rod, and I said, well what what can I do? And he said, well, let's build you production GT car, you know, an entry level three to three. So I ran one season a kind of a half a season of production. GT did pretty well in it who did you? How did you get a co-driver? I a friend of mine from school. You know, he's very brave. He's he's an architect. And he just said, you know, you love rallying to and we decided to set out and do it. And so then that you as it happens in racing. You know, rod was getting the latest greatest all the time from Mazdas. So there were a lot of hand me downs. And he said, you know, why don't we build you opened class car? So you can go for the overall wins over classes like all wheel drive. Turbo. Right. And it was the same car. I was driving and produce. Action GT, but it will my production is production. Right. So then this was gonna be modified. We'll ride had all the good stuff. You know, the group a transmission and the big turbos and also I took all his hand-me-downs. He built me an open class car, and basically all this happening in New Zealand or no here here. And so I was running the US paraly- championship and this came together and at the end of my nineteen ninety season. Which was you know, basically, two years in I tied for the overall national championship and one open class champion also. So that was in the funny thing is, and I mean Mazda is so wonderful in motor sports. And and you know with the miata program, obviously stuff going on in prototypes. Now, I love all the guys I've shot a lot of commercial. But you know, I kind of came out. I well, what could I maybe do this in the Porsche world? Yeah. You know? But that was nineteen ninety and what happened in. Nineteen ninety was the career for though. Yeah. And so the career four came along. And I I thought well that's an all wheel drive Porsche. Let's see we can do. So it would took me two years to kind of figure it out. And then in ninety two I talk, you know, got serious with Porsche said I'd love to run a career for the US rally championship. So they helped out and making a all the Perry to cars stuff available to me. So so I got all of the driving career fours in Paris to car. No. But it wa- they Bill like leftover. Yeah. Remember when they had a career for lightweight. They made twenty. Okay. So they originally we were going to run one of the career for lightweights in the in the championship. And I couldn't get a you a aversion that was going to be legal for road had to be. So I ended up no show in display. So you're gonna Barth and Porsche motorsport all work together. And they sent me all of the stuff. So. We built a career car. Yes. Yeah. So I've seen this car person weeks ago. For a rate. So so that car has full Perry to car running gear transmission dips in you know, you got to knobs inside one you can make it more front. Wheel drive wanna make more rear wheel drive as cool. And I did you start with a car that you just bought like just bought occurs. Needed a street car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We just took everything out of it. And put all this super car sitting in my shop, you know, full Perry dicara underneath it. So awesome, cool car. How was it as a rally car difficult in the beginning? Because it was funny. A funny story that I was racing at Daytona the twenty four hours in Ninety-three. Okay. And I was so excited about this program and racing you driving. I was driving a L S driving an RS are. With y'all can roar. And so few pits away from me was wall to roll. And I'm thinking, he's the master. You know, I this is so cool. I'm going to go tell them about my program. And and so I finally got the nerve up. I go over and sit down next door when we're sitting on the wall, and I go well there, you know, I, you know, introduce myself anything said I've got this career for lightweight. We're going to run in the rally championship. And he says to me that car must really be an unlike hanging on every word, and he goes terrible. And then he's getting really imagined a straight face. And so he, but then he explained it and the Perry car cars carried tons of fuel lots of field twice as much as we did. So they had no problem with having too much torque to the front wheels. And so and also most of Perry two cars, dead straight stuff. So you know, you could have pretty much so a fifty fifty split. So he started explaining to me how to make it work. And once we figured that out, and it was really the ninety three season. We had some suspension issues more than anything else. And and ninety four we addresses suspensions situation in in ninety four. We finished second in the championship and had a number of outright wins. But the cool thing that happened in ninety four was Porsche's said, let's go to pikes peak. Right. And they loaned me for that. Same car. A turbo motor. Oh, there's loan five hundred hand. I'll love for you five hundred and fifty horsepower the same. Oh, I drove it. Ah? Yes. Paid has. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I've driven on this engine talking. So that motor, you know, was in the emphasis supercar series with Hurley Haywood, and Hans stoop and so- province. Yes. So I had I had that motor and thank you to give it back. Oh, yeah. Well in here's a funny. Why is it? We lend juicers Molter done if you don't tell across you must gives them motor about. So I I've driven this car now a year and a half and the rally championship. Okay. Okay. With three hundred horsepower. Okay. Right. Then all of a sudden, they take the car away from me, and I go and settle into the same car, and it's got a five hundred fifty horsepower single turbo motor in with this. Big knob between the seat that I had to change switch at different altitudes, speak the whole thing, and it was just cracking every and it was just a monster. And it was so cool because it was the same part I've driven it's a fucking. Yeah. Big motor. So then the funny part is the next. I literally I win at pikes peak one open class and that's like on Sunday Monday. We rush back with the car Tuesday. They take the shop. They take the turbo-motor output the normally aspirated motor back, and I raced the next weekend and feed it feel awful. It was also a high altitude race. So it was like, you know, already can't go. But it was so funny, but turbo-motor wouldn't have been legal for the rally championship any what is that engine? Still in that car that three three create RS. Yeah. So it's nothing. No. It's not a little motor short short gears. So it feels plenty healthy. Yeah. Yeah. In hindsight. Because it's twenty years down the road. And no one cares. Would you have been even more successful or had a better time? Driving a rear-drive nine eleven in the rally championship compared to the all wheel drive. Well, the funny thing about this. Because I had the adjustable torque split it goes against what you'd think if it was super slippery. Like when we ran the winter rallies main or in Michigan. I would run it basically rear wheel drive, right? Because I couldn't get it to turn. You know, push. Yeah. Just push like crazy. So surprisingly, if the grip is really good, I wound the torque up to the front, but if it was something I needed to be really loosen. You want it to the rear? And that's that's the nice thing is you can pretty much so make it a two old drive car. But because I did the Nora event and GAM Ross, you know, when again, Roth belts Baja cars, and we are actually. The first nine eleven to ever finish one of the thousand mile events in Mexico house, and it was it was awesome. But that was a real drive car. It was so fun. I better. The best like what you're getting no experience. Oh, my I wouldn't even wanna know it doesn't take much power. And it's just fun. It's just did you see the psycho death one? He just built with the turbo. Yeah. Four hundred fifty horse of it. I love it. And it's a four speed. And I was like Lee, I don't get it. What it won't this suck? And he goes, no, dude. You don't get it. Like, I is good till sixty. He's like you you just put it in. I when you're off road. It's like being in an automatic ship perfect. It's that thing is no good. So, you know, so basically, and the funny thing is I mentioned in rallying thing is all rallies were run at night. Yo. Yeah. All that stuff. So at the end of the ninety four season valvoline had been a great sponsor for both Pike's peak in and the rally they said, you know, we got so much press out of Pike's peak. We only want to run Pike's peak next year note run around the rally championship. So I didn't know what to do quite. I thought oh well one race all year. Yeah. So, but I, but it started my sixteen years at pikes peak. So you have a ridiculous run. Yeah. You have how many Tommy record. How many at a trophies? We talk about eight championships sixteen years. So and efficient that the fun thing for me is I have done that both in the dirt. And when it was half dirt half payment and done it in full pavement. And now, I'm one of the few drivers under ten minutes. So the whole I've seen the whole progression of the place. Which has been really fun. Have you was that one time though in the ninety three or ninety four whatever it was the only time you did it in all wheel drive car because I can only remember you doing it in rear-drive cars in recent in recent no, actually tooth. Let's see. No. I everything was all wheel drive. Tell two thousand ten oh was the Cup car was the first car. So because the oh, you know, what the GT too? Two and that was a funny year because I ended up there was a two wheel drive in a wheel drive class. And we won the two wheel drive class. But we actually beat all the four wheel drive cars. But that's that's not that big of a surprise because Porsche being rear engine all the weights over the rear wheels. Anyway, the drive wheels. So it really does work. And but that was on a consistent up like you'll be able to get a power down. Pretty well. It really was and but that too, but that was endured and that was a handful GT to see is, you know, what's described the mental game of driving Pike's peak in the dirt, which no one can do anymore. Yeah. People constantly say to me. Oh, it must be a lot safer now that it's all paved. And it's really that's really not true. We go faster. Yeah. And thing that happened is if you think about it just from a dynamic standpoint in the dirt we would Russia corner. We'd break we'd rotate the car under braking. So you've moved into slip. Yeah. And you're at slip then and now you're driving on the throttle. And so you're driving on the throttle moving around all the energy was released in that transition to the slipped. Yeah. The most part. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So now, you take a pave situation with racing tires trail break here doing hard as you can and the corner you taking it right up to the edge of it. He's in and if you've by chance figured out you were in the wrong place or the corner tightened or anything, you would all of a sudden go into slip on racing tires, which would mean all the energy released in a way that you know, is unrecoverable because there's no runoff. So it's the changes I used I still love the dirt days. I just like a car that moves around course. It's just more. Yeah. So. And that was that was so great. And it was funny because it was almost like sprint car racing. Actually ninety four. There would be black grooves in the coroner's. You know, and the cars are really hooked up. Like they were cutting in half. Yeah. Yeah. It was really. And he were laying down rubber. Yeah. So just just the other day where with these mil spec. Guys, we heard of them, they're they're taking Hummer h I saw that. And you can disconnect really not only they unshipped boxing them and making them like reasonably quality via sales for ones. But. Yeah. A to we'll drive training with air locking diff-. Yeah. So with the weight and the tires like you're when you're spinning one you're digging into the earth and like cutting these. Rots? So crazy. It's silly in very fun. Yeah. So that was really, you know, the dynamic has changed a lot. And I mean, I love the place. But I just I like a car that moves around the dirt. Yeah. But under ten minutes. Yeah. Good. I'm all happy. Where do we go from here on pikes peak though, what's the next? What's the next marker for for me for me? I mean, I'd I'd last year I coached the GT four clubs sport class, which was kind of a half celebrity half. Now, we amateur about hardly image. Everybody was pretty well versed and driving there with it got there. But that's a good car. It's a great car, and it seems fast but at fourteen thousand feet, it's pretty slow. What was funny though, is that I kind of thought that it would kinda work against it. But the drivers very early on figured out that it's all about momentum view. So the chances they take in the momentum areas, but it was it was actually really cool. Nino for me to work with Travis Pastrana and JR Hildebrand the whole draft guys got rate. China's is so good. And you know, what's funny is I worked I got to know Travis when we were both with no fear, clothing company. And we were I went to race of champions for many years, you know, the big international event where they might L champion. So Travis Pastrana was competitor their few years. So I got got the known pretty well. And you know, and then you kinda like fast forward almost twenty years, and he still same guy. He's just so good. You'll live. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's he's such a good guy. I had a lot of raiders rally crash videos of all his reaction for that role. That's that's what it really solidified because it wasn't like UK's like, whoa. Let's do that one again. Like, no you, and and you know, he's he's such a quick study and understands all this stuff. So well, and I I was so impressed with them there. And I mean, he ended up winning the class too. But this year, I'll be coaching. But they also Porsches also said last year they wanted me to just focus on coaching and this year, I've have made an entry into it. But I don't know what I'll be running yet. You are s right? Like that. So it's good can do they hook you up? You'll dollar car action or something, you know, I take care of the program. So obviously, you know, Porsches good to me and a lot of ways. But you know, it's usually I have to figure out how to make it happen. Yeah. It's good. What is in the Zork? Stop blah at the moment. The nine six four and the nine hundred six there too heavy hitters, we just covered. Yeah. And you drove up in a mccown that I think has a ton of miles and twenty five thousand miles good for mccown. Yeah. Yeah. It was a PDK holding up. Good. Everything's been good on it. It's it's it's funny. 'cause you know, you just did this million miles saying fuck. Yeah. She'll let you drive a you loved it. Spent a lot of questions for me too. Because you know, the funny thing is is that I it several times in my career I've done advertising campaigns based on million mile cars, certain the Mercedes always did it. Right. Didn't one of the Mercedes one. I did a Volvo all about it too. And I was thinking the other day that care, but but it's not even that. It's like, nobody. Really cares. Your and that was an attribute, you know, you they were marketing the car because it could last a million dollars. And you know, I just I did a job in Morocco awhile back in the Iraq, every taxi is a Mercedes. But it's not a new Mercedes three hundred d people sitting on the roof. You know, it's like overload. Well, there's the cycle right of unkillable cars. So they start as like they started Europe aristocrat, then they become cabs years later in Paris at the nice French cabs. Yeah. Then they go into like the northern. Africa. And then they end up in Oman. So as some sort of mortar. Yeah. On a couple of years ago. Everybody was rocking amid nightmare. Lexus. Everybody had. So like, I think there's probably a lot of million mile lexuses in the Middle East. Yeah. But like nobody gives a shit, but like Lexus didn't really care either. But I was proud of us. I thought it was almost like I actually made me think about the times we shot million mile cars and also how you have to like one hundred twenty five thousand miles on my. Okay. Three and a half years almost four years. Right. You know, and not that's a lot of driving. Yeah. But that's nothing compared to how how did that? How did I I remember how the Mercedes the last one I shot for a million, man? I remember how it got there. So so the thing about million mile cars is like you in generally, I think in most cases, you need one really fast idiocy owner with a really absurd commute. That's that's kind of the normal art. Yeah. The guy who checks telephone. Polls on the highway for a job in his. Whatever for me. I was the sixth owner of this fucking thing. And then I put ear wasn't a ninety six ninety six. So the first owner leased it normal lease second owner bought it off lease drove it about an and drove it from thirty six thousand miles to seven hundred and fifty thousand really, yeah. In twelve years Wendy do. I don't know. I've never found. The dude isn't that. My Mercedes guy was a west coast rap. Yeah. Living in Portland, and we basically go L A Portland. LA? I would guess it was something like that. And then the the owners after that between seven fifty and eight ninety seven where I bought it. Basically just did the bare minimum to keep the thing on the and so when I bought it it was in a pretty rough state and win across the million. It was in significantly better shape than when I got to the point where I would not hesitate to get an driving across country right now. The biggest where points like what made you notice? Everything's. What made you know, is it's age first off everyone who drove it uniformly said with a hundred percent across the board that it that they would have not guessed it had more than like two hundred thousand on it. So it was really really nice. The engine was really saying with was it in had been rebuilt. Never be engine. Never been open insane gearbox three times. Yeah. The the I had to do a gearbox rebuilding. It was thirty six hundred dollars. So I would say that was a big one. I did shocks bushings and shit like that. And you know, there wasn't any one maintenance item. That was horrid aside from the gearbox rebuild. Everything else. Was was fine. It wasn't that bad. They have a tendency to leak the power steering pumps will leak onto the alternator. And then kill the car. What was the interior like decent? Yeah. I wouldn't want to loom it all in you've it. But. Is everything works? See he our everything works. I have an original nine eleven with sixty thousand plus miles. And it's a seventies. Okay. And literally like sitting in this seat is. So it looks normal till you sit in. Driver's seat. Now wasn't the best. But the back seat was in pretty good shape. It was it was a lot better. Visit original paint. No pay was fucked. Okay. The the someone had just rattled the pain was fucked. There was there was no coming back from the. I mean, seriously congrats on that. I thought that was good. I so this dude, Freddie has it in Florida right now. And he's like a youtuber also. And he he does like crazy builds and he's putting a tar by on it. Well, so much. That was the rule was I he can have the car for free. Now, do whatever the hell he wants with it. I signed it over to him. He owns it. But when he blows the engine I would like an engine block coffee too. That's that's our deal edgy blog coffee table with a rod stamina side. It'd be just about perfect, you know, going into it that it wouldn't go over million miles. They'd just go nine AB somebody did you into the project. I did learn that because I would have never been on that I would have thought it just rolled over digital and just sticks. It so on the one hand mildly anti climatic on the other hand, permanent permanent badge of honor. Yeah. Yes. No, that's super cool car was like, honestly, if you were to go out right now and spend twelve to fifteen thousand dollars on the nicest LS four hundred find. Yeah. It would be the one of the greatest vehicles ever produced that you could ever own true. Any nineties Lexus is is built to a absurd. Standard of quality, especially the LS. Yeah. I'm ready to peace for road and track about it. Oh, good. I'm so excited this car that I got on Craigslist like fucking forgotten about in Florida. Yeah. Is going to be like a feature in road and track of like nudging cul ski to make it a cover. Getting a great. Yeah. Yeah. We got off the photography subject. But I brought something did you bring me a poster? Yeah. Ratchet something and this is an light another subject. But so in the early eighties. Oh, this is going to be so good. It's going in the early eighties. Any souvenir store, especially around the Warf, and San Francisco, whatever do you use to hear the sound in the back of the store Clack Clack Clack Clack Clack, and there were these walls of posters. They were all in metro trains trains. Yeah. Yeah. So the biggest selling poster was Farah Fawcett. Oh, yeah. Okay. The biggest selling poster was this which is mine. Ooh, let's see what we have here. You'd be very careful. Let's see the opens it up. Oh do. Chefs worn. That might even be my car. It looks a long. Oh, so that's so lovely this. The audio audio this is red Lamborghini Coon, Taj with a tan, interior and gold mother. Oh, you know, what it's not my car because these mirrors are red and my ears are black. Oh, well that dude thing. Okay. Appreciate that. So a hundred. Amazing. The the funny thing is that was the car we use for the road and track world's fastest cars in that day. And it was it was in those days world facet cars didn't really progress. Bringing in the yellow bird and all that stuff. It was just a Ferrari boxer and this bright boxer in this. And so we were at TRC in Ohio know, how no the boxer one. Yeah. But it was it was so cool to have those two cars. We'll finally here's how different the time was Lamborghini. You know, Lamborghini, only Lamborghini officials were there and all the Ferrari officials were there and Phil hill was driving. I think and you know, we had all the road and track guys. And and so we sent an east cars around. And of course, the Lamborghinis having trouble. But both cars, you know, they were there was a seven mile oval. I think at TR C, you know, and and it was crazy flat out oval, and I shot all these pictures. And I just had a great time. We'll Lamborghini thought. Oh, this is great. We got you know, a road and track photographer to shoot it. So I get a call a little while later, and they say, you know, would you take the Coon Taj and just shoot pictures with it? And and so so I'm like, you know, we're newlyweds I got this Lamborghini. Go down the street. No, David hood, everything all the neighbors of what it what the world would enjoy your show. I was like so cool. I just remember it was really hard to see out of it. But I just the times are so different. And that was laughing the other day because you are. So I shot the Rambo Guinea, the L M Oto. Yeah. Yeah. We call it the Rambo game. And you remember Valentino test driver. So he he I used to go over every year to shoot the latest greatest Lamborghini. So I went with them every year, and we'd shoot Dow blows murky he's so good. But I remember being an Elmo too. And we're I'm sitting next to him and his holiness as he does through all area, everything and has one speed any turns to me, and he goes, you know, what Jeff I like about this people get out of your way. And it really is too. Because the gotten to the point that any any Mircha log or whatever would be kind of like people would be pissed at unlike Gado fucking. With all to came on. I will. Bosley did. But you were dishing on the Cup holder. Oh, okay. So here's here's what it took Horace. Okay. Tiny little Cup. Hold. Okay. But here's what I took me back to which I thought was so when I was shooting for track magazine, we went on the press trips, you know, to shoot the cars in the latest grade. But there were two waves there was long lead. And shortly Ron Lieber, the monthly magazines, and it wouldn't be out for a couple of months, and there'd be the short lead ledge like the Wall Street Journal or something they would come along later. So so, and I'm thinking how times have changed because like I remember people going on a long lead and be worried two months from now about complaining about something that they'd hear from now, let's see mats in here. Complaining about a couple of where the PR guy could literally whack them in the back of head while you're complaining complaint whose face. You just realize the spot made of how this stuff works now to be ready because you're literally in our day of you hadn't even driven the car yet. I had I got there. I was in that. Nice lucky. Not the looking did like the around. Dope. One the one with all the breakfast. And everyone like I think the people at Lamborghini are amazing like all those talion complete. Either minds are super funny, and they're just nuts, and I like their thought process things. But like, yeah, I I call that out right there. Because I could literally be sitting I complain to Janina and she laughed. It was funny. She was like only drink out of any little cups. Oh, good. We got a bunch of questions from our audience. Can you punch on that Tim? So I can read a little bit of please. Yeah. Folks can donate in the super chat for the next five or so minutes sly, folks. So we don't go to too long on this Friday night. But Nathan says some friends are coming to L A next month. They wanna get some cars in taro and hit the canyons were staying closer to Beverly Hills. There's only two areas to drive in L A, really Malibu canyons. Yeah. Angeles forest from Beverly Hills year pretty much halfway between them. Yeah. Yeah. Angeles forest. If you really wanna go drive for us. Yeah. Go early in the morning. Do not go on a weekend on weekday and have fun. Yes. They on your side of the wwl. Yeah. I the those are the two areas and oh actually the third one is up by lake steak. There's a lovely lake Hughes rooms now there's a good sleeper spectacular road. Joe says I'm on the fence. An oath five Mustang GT in a Nissan three fifty or INFINITI g thirty five the money is about the same. Which would you suggest with a focus on drifting? I mean, look to build a drift car. You you need a let's say at least at least a couple of hundred horsepower rear wheel drive with them with the Ella. Limited slip differential and mentions mission. Either of those will suffice. Yeah. And there's certainly a lot of three fifty when I'm around that have drifted. So there are. Yeah. They're pretty good at it. Yeah. I think personally, I think and oh five and up Mustang GT will make a more durable drift car. I had maximum motorsports. Make some good parts Barton. MD says thank you for the payment. You're welcome, sir. Joe says what happened to oh, what happened to a seven hundred fifty? Oh, as has a video of mine gone missing. I don't know allegedly of one of my videos is missing. I don't know. I'll go find Joe, thanks for the heads up. I appreciate it. That is not a dumb question as you suspected. It was I will go find it for you later. Tech says, oh, I've. Getting married. Congratulations. Yes. Jeff any up church of petrol says any upgrades coming to the turbo GT three this year for Pike's peak. Yeah. That's a sidebar is the turbo GT three the GT three. Was it came picture that to me? Yeah. It came about in two thousand two thousand ten Iran edgy three Cup car. Normally aspirated the race car. Four hundred eighty hours about it was the first everything else. I driven was production-based. So this is the first race car and was like he suddenly sat in there and yet sequential box and everything it felt like you were wearing the car. It was it was awesome. And it was half dirt. Then. So the car was a blast the drive. What tires? Do you drive on a half rain? We ran arraigned tighter. So we ran pearly rain tires that year. And it was just it was just liver shot that picture wins. Yeah. That's the turbo shot that I think that's Larry Larry. Larry's the he's fucking great. He's companies scooted, but Larry. I just had a little meeting with Larry. I just some. So did you see the the the poster that he show you the post that we did someone asked about this? Yes. For the cherry fire. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Shoved it's the shot is fucking looked a. Look at a stitch shot on he showed me that that was super cool. He's my favorite two thousand ten we ran that GT three Cup card. Normally aspirated two thousand eleven Porsche. We came together saying, let's do us. That's do the event where you drive from here in GT to drove from LA to pikes peak put numbers on it. They're go race. And try to try to win the class. I ended up losing school. But it's debt that drive really shouldn't have been a big deal. Right. It was car had full cage, and you know, like stuff, and it was it was fine. And we rolled along. It was great and no big deal. And then I get to there. We put the numbers on put a few sponsors on race. And we ended up losing just by like a second and a half. I think the class, and but we set a production car record there complete stock. But what was cool that was the GDP to R s was six hundred and twenty worst power, and it was fully six twenty at the summit? And it just pulled like nothing I'd ever driven there. And so I come back from that. I go I'm on the GD three Cup cars best handling car. I've ever g as the most power I've ever driven. Let's put those two things together. Well, it didn't exist. So we got together. BB I and Potemkin Joey Sealy, and they all combine their talents together to create this turbo Cup car, which was an absolute monster because you know, to deliver seven hundred fifty eight hundred horsepower at the summit. Yeah. It's like working over a thousand horsepower at the summit. So it's it was just a crazy car. There were a lot of things that had to happen in there that made the reliability tough to get it all dialed in the first year. So we we ended up coming back three times but ended up winning there. And that's the car that. I went went under ten minutes into I drove a car that was that had a slightly milder version of that engine, and it was a psycho death machine that swan. Well, yeah. Sequential the I drove that on a closed road. And it was real crazy. Yeah. I can't imagine the full race car. You know, it was a blast. I tune version. No ABS and no, traction control. And it was just it was great. Is that car? That's your car. Right. I was like are. Yep. Yeah. Are you going to continue racing cars been retired? And so this near that's why we're trying to decide what we were on this year. So if we are is there a new class, you could enter that would be somehow like, no, I you know, it just it's it's a matter. I mean, I know that I'm coaching this year for Porsche motorsport again. And I like that. And so as a if I don't find something that I'm really comfortable with you know, I'll just coach. But I could you like could you do like would you find the fun in like, let's say like racing three fifty six or something up the hill. Or would that just drive a three to six with snow tires? Would you find it fun to enter the race or it'd just not be fast enough to be worth your time? It'd be tough sixty horsepower at sea level, it'd be tough. But funny enough I drove that pre to the top of pikes peak one day, and I had to go to first. And I was like I was like actually worried I was going to make this is gonna be really ugly. If I can't speak with other cars, we stopped at the Mikan. But the other cars in your garage. You have this three fifty six very early. Call pre. Well, I have I have the fiftieth portion that was ever made which is the moon. It's on display at the Peter museum right now. And that's, you know, hand formed over, you know, older yours or Jerry's his by twenty number well twenty. Yeah. Twenty numbers about so week. Yeah. No, not quite a week in those days. It was a little longer that. And then I've got the fifty three pre a and and because of my interest in rallying. I've also got a the works cars from nineteen seventy-one the nine fourteen six GT, and the the East African safari car for so I've got the money. I call it the hot and cold seventy-one because I got the Monte Carlo car in the African cars do all the cars. Get driven. Yeah. Everything's got. Gotta you know historical plates. On it and drive including the nine six Diaz. Good. That's super cool. I love the canoe on the vessel. I was under slate. I told my friend. I was like you don't drives that like that was he was like, no that's another. He drives that giant canoe. Although it's that's when you want the wind direction when I see your Instagram, and you're like on the side of some lake, and you you're taking that canoe down off. I'm like God that guy knows how to live looks great. I know it's it's pretty cool. It is a new locally everybody on the ocean on the ocean in it. So can we come together we camp canoe camp? One posit ninety four you're winning voice fee. I was canoe here. Yeah. My stroke is the work. The work and even that you can describe a J stroke. That's I know what a stroke is. Most of the way there, you know, canoeing. Now, some of it is pretty funny when occasionally the wind will hit it and shift it, and it's it's just a little bit. And all of a sudden you're driving like it's completely out of a line. Like your sale. Yeah. So you wanna keep it dead straight over the car? Yeah. Nick Hansen says Jeff regarding looked six lift sixes. What may eleventh announced that got got my text from Pat will I be able to park my air, cooled Porsche inside the venue or will the venue be reserved for curated cars only. Well, we will be establishing the number of cars inside the venue, and there will be a sign up process. And I would say that if you're early in your sign up, and you present the passionate plea is chances are you'll get the park inside sweet excited. I just marked my calendar and talked to Pat, and he said that I can come there. Get guys. Yeah. I know. My purple rally car get space for all sorts of rally cars, taking it on my on my second ski trip of twenty nineteen next week and a very exciting. Yeah. Yeah. It's so lovely to drive. I'm glad to hear the driving a safari car is fucking big fan and all stuff he's done. And I'm really glad to have a good win on the west coast. You have to have you driven one unit. You know, actually, not try. I've learned to get your thoughts. You know, we we shake down the Loof cars that we've done rallied cars for those are a little more extensive those they're pretty dialed. I you know, when I got out of the last one we built I mean, I was saying I'm ready to go run and stay drill in it. I mean it because it's it's it's there is ready again with GAM rock doing the motor and everything. It's pretty awesome car Marco just redid my motor. He rebuilt my motor full full rebuild. Its marco. Can do a good job on that features? Does it's it's ripping. It's feels really really I'm very excited about it. Okay. So cliff six is may eleventh in Los Angeles somewhere don't aware yet. Ted says there an update oh an update. For the Lambeau poster available to order. It will be very soon. I thought it was it's probably next week. I just saw the poster apparently it's hard to get like a lot of posters made really I- Cording to Matt crook. He might be full of shit. I don't know. We'll come to you. Very soon. It looks amazing w ward says blasted Radwan and Austin, I saw the pictures of Redwood and Austin it looked cool. If you've been to Redwood yet, I haven't been rabbi, but I'll tell you out. But I just I love the fact that you know, the things that you, and I probably always looked at as cool. Yeah. Are now being recognized as cool, and you you can have a rotary Mazda, and suddenly everybody gets shoe mos- ler conciliators. I mean, that's it. Yeah. You have to bring the nine six four out. Now the perfect period. I do told me fucking great story about running out of gas or something on PCH abandoned that car on the side of the road. It was not good. Oh, man. Dante zero says my dream ride is either a launch delta integral lay good taste or an Audi r s to avant. If it was your money, which would you get I've never driven an RS two of yours or cool and actually because of the timing now, they're legal here. And I've been thinking about getting one for Colorado. I've never had. I've never driven one. They we know. It's was cool is in the time when I was shooting advice ach, they were always the one you hopped into open up the hatch and shot on the back. Of course. There's certainly got to go round vice a few times in the the awkward seat where they were they cooled. They were really fun. Yeah. That'll really I don't see the very made a lot of them. And. You know, they haven't been legal here. But they're now that they're going to be except for California. So I drove it integral. A I don't know if it was an Yvo one or two was an ego. But it was really really fun. Yeah. It wasn't particularly comfortable. The seating position was a little weird. But it was fun as shit to drive. I get and I love how they're just low key. Yes, they blow the we the wheels. The we have to grow shit. Daniel says I'm looking for a second car for auto cross rally cross and track days, the Yvo nine and the oh five oh, seven STI or the obvious answers driven both like both any other wildcard recommendations for dirt and tarmac. You would recommend for give or take twenty thousand dollars j I think you gotta go with the STI just because there's so much stuff available for him. Yeah. And it would bet as far as an alternate. There really isn't any. Yeah. I mean, if you wanna go like front wheel drive, you could do front wheel drive for sure there's a lot a lot more options there than all your old Hondas and stuff come into play. And I mean, there's when you get into that. And there is a lot. But yet I think in an all wheel drive card. It's gotta be a and if you're looking at Yvo like your app that you're at where that's at. I when I ran the world championship rally. New zealand. I drove an ego. And you know, I literally got out of my Porsche one weekend gun the New Zealand, and then drove the evil, and it was like, wow. This is the way rally cars are supposed to feel because it really was proper. Really cool. I could all throw a wild card out if you're willing to drive on the right side of the car has now you might be able to like get some weirdo. You know, pulsar Jesse? I are or some you know, starlet or some kind of bizarre inexpensive yet. Cool Japanese thing. So that or even skyline honestly. Yeah. GTS skyline can have Superfund rear wheel drive. What else do you wanna plug lift to goal is not that? I not that you need my plugged. What do you got going on? And we've got a film coming out and. Should we talk about that racing in the rain? Yeah. So Arte racing. Rain was you know, book that was book. No one's ever heard of. I definitely heard of ten years ago. So. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. If that went over your head, I thought within this room. How could it? Arstein? Great book Garth. It is such a great job. And it was a book that when I read it, it just captivated me on what the visuals could be especially, you know, I was studying to be a veterinarian, you know. So I'm all into the dog world anyway, and to to, you know, read from the dog's perspective and kind of see all that I really conjured up a lot of great visuals with me, and I actually went to one gar book signings in you know, in the day the day just to see him, and I felt like a Stocker. But at the end of the books, I said, oh know Jeff's Worden, here's gave a little introduction. And then I ended up talking to them for quite a while about it. And we both, you know said, oh, it's natural film L. It's everything that you know, it could be but yet it took forever. And then Patrick Dempsey. Fortunately, bought the rights to it. And he really worked and worked and working at it was almost there Greenland and wants to do almost the next one. And then finally FOX two thousand came along and took it. Morad says the executive producer? Area now. So so he he was great. And you know, this all came together. So naturally racing is the on, you know, underlying theme to the whole thing. But it's not the bulk of the book, but I got called in to basically be second unit director to direct all racing and ultimate lead shooting all the car things. And you know, I shot the opening title sequence. And I shot the in scenes, and it's just it's really I've seen the film now. And it's really great. But it's a bit like field of dreams. You don't have to like baseball. You know? That's my main thing is you don't have to like racing. You don't have to any. It's just a wonderful movie. And Kevin Costner is the voice of the dogs. Oh, that's awesome. So it is like field of dreams. Yeah. So to work. With a bunch of fundraising farmers who got to both race for real. And for fake. Yeah. You say part of the, you know, the idea was just to make it legit. I having dealt with them. So for so long. My natural idea was let's go to let's see if we can imbed ourselves in a few races and work around the teams that are actually racing. And so we were you know, there's a real reality to it there because it is real. Yeah. In the way that you know, Lama race or whatever. Whatever have you. That's so cool. Is it coming out? It'll be out in September. And it it's it's it's going to be a great launch to Milo Ventimiglia is the main character and Amanda safe reads, his wife, and so they've just it's a great. It's great cast. And and it was really it. Just you know, it's a sad story. But yet it's leaves so uplifting in it that it's really a positive story. So. It was a fun year for me because I worked on that film. And then also did those wacky red bull films of taking the Formula one car from San Francisco cleared Miami? So we had a good time with doing all that red bull stuff to. That's so cool. Man. You are you're on a wave. Time. That's awesome. Man. I'm I'm I'm super to come in. And thank you saying. Saying. On my throat, scratchy today. Oh last last real quick question for you doubt. Someone may want prescription Dylan sunglasses, Email me mad at this entire dot com. If you want prescriptions, I forward you to their optometrist who is as excuse me. Sorry, any of their plastic framed glasses like the sports kind of wrap around ones work. Well under my scooter helmet. Thank you. Jeff Ward warts on Instagram Z, A, R, T, anything any other platforms user, just this that I'm a photographic guy. Yeah. You're your Instagram is a great follow I strongly recommend in may eleventh look to Los Angeles. I will see their he at my my Papa saw and the smoking podcasts. Powered by shout engine. You know, the drill. Get your own podcast a chat engine dot com. It's easy. Only needed a microphone connection to the internet. And ideally something to say have a good weekend. 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Miss Lawrence & Porsha Williams - 11/18/18

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Miss Lawrence & Porsha Williams - 11/18/18

"Welcome to the Bravo. Clubhouse for the podcast division of watch. What happens live with me? Andy cohen. His fashion sense as wild and her new newest accessory is an unborn child. It's watch what happens with Porsche Williams and miss Lawrence. Now. I'm your host. Andy Cohen live in the rubble clubhouse on Sunday night with a man who can work a hairbrush and a woman who used her man's rush. Verse Gus wet ramming a baby vegan lifestyle to announcing that she straight up having a baby with her new say Dennis here to Kesse. Catch us up. It's Porsche Williams. Worship deserve. Yes. In star on. Fox's outing talents will knock the wig off your head. But his era experts us, well, you put it back perfectly. Welcome back. Our friend miss Lawrence Amos. Sure. Turban inspire bundy's turban, look, this is a turban. Well. Hers was a turban too. I thought oh the goal. That was cute. Okay. Daughter. She's here too Drake for twos. Since Porsche can't is forces sister. Laurie laurie. I wanted to push his dressing room tonight, and I saw Lawrence. Go naked here. Yup. By the way, just want to point out Porsche is drinking a mock tales tweet us, it's not a real Porsche you came in hot to this season. And you have. I have to revisit just one little moment from the premier which it still has me chocolate. Airplanes. The big cities do nothing, but sweat. She said, by the way, Eva joined Porsche for a week, a workout and made time for a little shade. And she has are shady boot moment of done night. We had some babies chaff. But I did I am trying to snap back in shape after this baby. And for this wedding. I'm a model. I'm sorry. When's the last time you saw motto with a big booty? The only one I know. Oh, wow. Yeah. Catch that. I saw that register on Lawrence's. Gotta ask Don I go take down from baby, mama guy body. Y'all got big asses. Something in the water. You get pregnant. Porsche congrats on your pregnancy of his speed round of questions for you. How have you been feeling so far have been pretty at been really good after that one little week of veterans right of juvenile picked out. Kind of I'm going between two Porsche junior, which is PJ. And then maybe one other one Porsche junior. Wants to name the baby Porsche junior. Okay. Wait a minute. Name a little junior. He wants her to be a junior. Guys, sit there baby. For should junior. We can begin. We'll be getting here. Who's the first housewife? You told you were pregnant Niimi, which Atlanta lady is giving you the best baby gifts so far best baby gifts a far. Oh, jeez. They've been so generous, geez. No. But I had a gender reveal kids and have you heard from Cordell since your engagement or pregnant. Yeah. He congratulated me just tonight, really. Oh, no kidding. She's thank you, very. They were living. Yeah. No. But that didn't happen. Now. It didn't happen seen him since you know, he'd been gone. Well, I'm excited for him to be Porsche junior. For Shaheed won't miss Lawrence getting questions. But before we get to those. Here's what three things I am obsessed with tonight. I over the past few years there's been enough tension between Porsche and candy to fill several sex dungeons so much show that this Lawrence even set on this very show that would never be friends again. But here's what you do. But these days, it seems like Bush may finally move beyond. Her candy coated fight to look. Hey, all the girls. We should just go near surprise. Just me you and we could fly together. Joking with you. Is gonna be really sweet local. That'd be sweet. Argue anymore. Put it out too. Now. Any motives? John had to make. Be free as you know, the conversation was jar. Then her personality. It was what it was dryer than her personality. Oh, okay. So they see what I'm saying not free. Right. Well, we're not bring. Well, guess what? Even though candy Porsche are now sharing cute face times on tonight's. Atlanta candy at some t- that she hasn't exactly said to Porsche's face watch. I've never met dinners. I only know people. We have mutual friends. So I'm just gonna shed up. How long did he date your friend two and a half three years? I can't be right. Girls EU's dated during that time. What I heard he cooks for. People's names on. To your friends. She just needs to check his receipts. I'll say nothing. Okay. Go to WWAFL dot TV and tell us on a sliding scale. How bothered should Porsche be by this t Lawrence. How bothered should should be by this. I don't think you should be bothered by. Here's the thing you notice which I'll give on this show. They go dig into your they go get into all your business on it. And one thing about Candice. She ain't never had a probably hundred laundry normally somebody who you have like a truce with. Who used to be moving forward with? No, I I mean, you know, so so by this point I want to give away what happens. But at this point, you haven't heard anything. So how was it? Watching this on tonight's episode to watch it's EPA show. I just thought that can't be just came off. Hateful and miserable. I didn't really know that this was even coming. We were like cool talking on the phone, and then she turned around and pull up. My ex assistant like they did with her ex assistant. So I mean, it's like she's doing is fade, drew. I love. Today. All right. Okay. Finally, miss more. It's maybe busies that's enough checks from his acting gives. But I I always thought too busy to name. Check. The Bravo liberties who he thinks violated international fashion law. Here's what oh let's see which Bravo. Loves miss Lawrence thinks are slaying their looks in which he would throw in fashion jail. Please take this to heart. Okay. Nina's pledging jacket and gold turban confessional. Look, I like the jacket jacket his like her breath. I'm gonna tell you about the turban put it back saw. So your forehead you stay with a full beat face. You know, y'all know map with no foundation on there. So pull that turban back running let that sits. Okay. What about Marlowe bald printed for Sachi outfit? I mean, the Sashi. Labor on. Okay. What about egos denim on denim photo? Shoot. Look, oh, that's good. Now, why tippy toes to put on the hill. Porsches beaded shoker dress which literally choked. That's good. But you know, what? I'll though you probably don't Iringa clash. I would've loved seeing a chandelier with that. Okay. What about Vicky Gumbel since black bathing suit and sexy, Chris? Vicky from the from Orange County. You know, Vicky she's been around for a while. Actually looks like. Skirted see through lace top with rustled sleeve ruffled sleeve. What does that full is that? I don't know it doesn't. Shannon's white cut out confessional. Look with high pony. That's nice Cologne them lift Shah's 'em. Jay's custom couture wedding dress. Okay. Margaret's casual jeans shirt bribe fo- for New Jersey all she likes had a good time following the night before. What about Theresa's fitness competition bikini? She looks good. Okay. Dallas liens one shoulder orange confessional. Look with a crown. No not one bit. Bucket at fun, Luke. Okay. Thank you. Many tweeted Porsche, tink tink Williams, I love the yellow on you. W text and how exactly does Dennis make so much money selling hot dogs. They're really good, really. Next week on the bodies buying them. Actually, the Atlanta outside. It's Eva versus eve rewind. Take a look at this new peak? The biggest I use this group. Why exactly are we Aligarh? We don't believe in definitely extra sometimes your extra when it's not appropriate. Basic, darling. Hell out. I heard from someone that you were telling people that paid today. I don't know that to be true. I don't know if Eva is a liar. But it's looking a little. They are trying to say somebody enough pay somebody to date them on that. Somebody's always being accused of it. Let's go to Barbara from North Carolina. Hey, Barbara, what's your question? Hi, girl. Wondering are you in favour do freeze? And if you are what is your relationship like, whereas fades? You know, we do takes from time to time holidays birthdays, just kind of like in and out there come see how she's doing. And she shakes on me. Okay. Let's go to Jonathan for Minneapolis. Hey, Jonathan what's your question idiots shot up in? It's my birthday tonight hype birthday. Hi, happy birthday. Thank you. My question for you is this Lawrence. This portion is been wearing this lovely red. We look and. Looks like it's Jada Jackson from nineteen eighty. What do you think my beer in you look fierce tonight? And I don't know what you're trying to do the girl you work at it. I like it. You know, it's it's you know, I when I had to show when we have always called that do the curtain has style, and it's still it's still up to date. So, you know, it's it's good. You know, I tell you what they plucked holiday out of it. I'd say my scalp Alonzo did fist. Yes. Just go over lunch. Go over lunch. Let's go to Charles from Atlanta. Hey, charles. What's what's your question? I don't have to do anything. Charles. Amazing. Okay. So really quickly. I know you say, you know, Samara from high Tim, I I don't get like the vibe. It's all like friends like are y'all. Cool. Yeah. You know in the beginning. See I I went to high school with Chamari. And I thought that I thought I remembered her from high school, but I actually had a mixed up with somebody else. But I love her. She's from Decatur. You know, we're both from Decatur Decatur girls. I'm a hauler down. Okay, either. That addition to the show great. It is into the show. We had a little tiff in there. Okay. You'll see it. But we are good. Now. I love her. Let's go to a Llandough from Atlanta hail Ondo. What your question for miss Lawrence? He would your look great. I love you. Guess how after year to right by becoming out with my daughter's picture. Let me tell you. I'm I'm going to be a little serious here. We cannot allow time to be out enemy, however long. It takes you to accomplish something that you said out for when it happens it happens. And I'm here for it. Yeah. Joggers throat. Had a chance to see them this year. But I can't wait. Okay. Okay, Porsche leeann wants to know if your husband to be ever removed all the tattoos of other women's names office body. I've never seen any tattoos of any women on his body. Besides his sister and his mom's face grandma's face. So by the way, are you still in touch with suray I run into quite a bit. And we'll take every once in a while. But you know, it's not, you know, we still are love have you seen Kenya's daughter AB, Brooklyn. I have not had a chance to see Brooklyn Evan. I talked to her you know, as soon as she had. But I haven't seen her yet. No T wants to new Porsche is nei-neither new Frick to your frac. Your relationship seems to be really strong this season. Actually have a lot of francs. I really do. I do this season was good for Porsche. I was able to hold down. Rekindle some good relations relationships with the girl. Yours funny as ever this season. That brings us to this game. Because lately Porsche has been so happy about her relationship with Dennis her love squeals can be heard by pretty much anyone in a four mile radius. So in honor, of course, should be extra vocal about her new blue, boo let's play Dennis or menace. I'm gonna play some quick sounds. You too will have to guess if it's Porsches squealing about Dennis or just some other medicine sound from the okay, let's play the first. Excited about Dennis definitely me. Let's real. This course excited about Dennis. Oh, yes. That's worse. It all the way over the. Let's see the next one. That charade. See another one. That is not me outs. Fades. Okay. Next up. That's me, Diane. That's me. Okay. Okay. Let's let's see another. That you know, that's Reagan. Let's see take. Take. Getting caught in the dark. Okay. Last one. Oh, how we got. That's neat. Let's reveal. Okay. Thank you very much. What it Lanta housewife? Would you want to come on the star whoever on it before I will out, and it's so crazy 'cause you never know who's coming? You never know you just see the character in scripted. You'll know who is who is by the way, everybody's Marlow tweeting that she needs your head piece and. Although she can get any time out of them bar so much stuff from all over time to time. All fall, bald on it. I wanna walk Grammy. Barda in bad and mother bevy Smith has been tweeting. And by the way, I want to say program, you know, bevy is co-hosting Andy Cohen live tomorrow morning. Check that out and the baby's kicking like crazy Anglos time. I can actually see her kicks right now. Loving the night show. Good. It's time for my mazal of the day goes to former Dallas Cowboys linebacker Jeff Rohrer for getting married to his partner and facialists to the Beverly Hills housewives Jonathan Ross today cute. They look Joshua. Became the first NFL player former or current to marry a man, so I mean, that's remarkable to the tour of you would so cute. Here's wishing these guys. A lifetime of tight ends and hitting the shower. Tonight's jackal, the President Trump and his response to the devastating. Fires in California kept offering this solution raking, they should've raked the forests hearing about the president's new affinity for raking is in stark contrast with his past may've your of hoeing around. It's the after show reports Williams from the. Facing? And and miss Lawrence from star on. By the bar is Lauren. I am stunned to find out that Lauren is single. Going to be single for long literally that look at it landed all, you know. You know, they'll single thing is is pretty. Has a lot of action. She's got a chose the best pick. Apollo's coming home soon. Right. Right. When he come home. No. I don't know. When does he get out of what four more? I don't know. Your kids married isn't. He had no idea he marry I don't know. Let's go to Dr Lene from Cleveland. Hey, arlene. What your question? Hi, andy. I wanted to take quickly love all of you. The question is proportionate guy knowing that you've been on a vegan diet. How is your diet? Now knowing that you are expecting are you still getting or who? Grime not beginning more full-blown pregnant, and what am I craving says ham? I haven't. But I am definitely going to be being after the baby. All right. Let's go to Alexis from Virginia. Hey, alexis. What's your question? Oh, she dropped. Let's go to be Jay from Alabama high BJ. What's your question? Where collar, hey, BJ BJ. Are you there? Yes, I'm here. I what's your question. How you doing my questioning before it? I just want to say, I love you. Based on. While on my favorite. You all your energy like show us. My question is why does it seem that can be is always the one that has the dirt on the van that come on the show every season? What do you think that? Maybe because she's got, you know, I don't know. I haven't really paid attention to what she does that other people at just, you know, founded a little odd that she was doing it to me being that we're supposed to be doing better. So I don't know everybody finds start on somebody's man on this show. I just feel like she just went very far to bring out the dirt on Dennis. And she's a little bit obsessed with us. She's up szeswith. Let's a little bit. Let's go to Jimmy from Alabama. Jay, what's your question? Hi Andy portion this morning. I have two questions one proportion and other this morning. Okay. When do you think when Juanita vogue gave candy mice about placement during the greatest A-tour? And what did you think about Chamari co forming hair and outfit from the nine? And I I was living for her outfit. That's like I told her. I thought she was frozen. Honey, she looked just like back in the day. And I enjoyed the throwback. She looked really good to me. And her husband. I love some say we love a shady husband. We what do you think? Shady was being shady unknowingly. And that's the best. Chamari mean for it to be a throwback looked. Well, if she's used it. Look. I'm pregnant, and I'm very shady being Mamie Shater. Okay. She may be using the same person who you get used to. Did you hear the same way? Okay. Let's go to a cure of from South Carolina. Hey hero. What your question? Hi, I have a question for Porsche good. Yeah. I wanted to know which is Dennis get your name tattooed on you. What you do the same for him. We already have a matching tattoo do. Yes. We do. Not only have a whole child when away, but we have a matching tattoos together. Wow. Yeah. Hey, MS Lawrence, Jackie t wants to know what fashion trend you're so overseeing on the streets of the AT L these days, I feel like I'm better to read. I will say. Not really fashioned trend. This is more of beauty trend. What is I think the law frontal things kind of oversaturated not that it's not that Nancy Porsches where? What Porsches where? Is no state is over saturated not that. No, you should start wearing and not that looks bad. Yes. Over our give Dan what quantity you go to what store drug store gas station. Somebody got on a frontal, and they all good from go naked. Oh. Let me say that. Because you do you got your biz bundle. That's it the frontal Lor, and we got a question for you on Twitter Vel for away wants to know how you feel about tennis, Lauren. I liked it. I liked it. Is you love him? He imports are a lot of like. So like as I got to know him. I just realized there's so much like that. It just it makes sense. Honestly, they really are a lot of like, they they're like both crazy. This Lawrence Christie love one wants to know on the show star or the one liners. He says all him or written for MS Bruce. Honey, I'm on the scripted sag show a lines baby. Yeah. Yeah. It's all written. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm still so happy for you. All. Tonight. Everybody. Thanks for listening to the podcast everybody. Hope you enjoyed the show. Remember, new episodes? Go live Monday through Friday at four PM eastern time. Make sure you're subscribed. Have a great rest of your night.

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Porsche Taycan + Car Updates

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43:59 min | 1 year ago

Porsche Taycan + Car Updates

"You're listening to castle car cast on podcast one <music>. Hey guys before we get started. <hes> we've got a big show for you today. We're going to give you some updates on the porsche. Take hand and uh find out what's going on with with goldberg's dodge find out what's going on with the with the lightning truck but before we get started. Let me tell you a little bit about dodge. You can get doubt dodge power howard dollars with any new car during dodge summer clearance event. The math is simple for every horse power of your new car. You'll receive ten dollars off so peel out a dodge esotique at redeye and you just got seven thousand nine hundred seventy dollars off. 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Hey welcome car cast matthew motor reiter the andrea on foam. We got got our bill goldberg. How are you buddy jam and man. You know same all of stubborn california. I'm hanging loose a eh. I again i. I got some morass. I'm back to normal again. You know so oh yeah that's what i was. That's what i was asking his like finished up n._c._i._s. shooting and now you're back and a <hes> yeah man yeah. I'm i'm almost back to normal. Whatever the definition of for me is <hes> yeah. Yeah sit in the garage getting ready to play with some toys again. We have a little bit of time on my hands and but you've got you've got <hes>. You've got these things in the works. We have n._c._i._s. which we'll find out. Some air dates usually usually takes a couple of months before they get that up. We have knifer death <hes> coming out season three that start that just started right started them right there say night there you go <hes> we may be as we're recording. This may be sort of a week ahead but check it out thursday's as history channel and and you should be heading out to mark warm soon get the truck. I know rich. Wait is from magma flows going to go out there pretty soon. Wrap up the exhausted. I talked to him on the phone. I said well. I said well. Call me when you get back because i want to take my my truck down to magna flow to the exhaust on it. He's like i'm working on over holland and then we're gonna fly and i'm gonna work on warren's truck or your truck at warminster. They'll be back and i said okay so pennsylvania in her that he really grown up bragging but i don't know he's such a good dude and he's working on fun project so i can't imagine there's much better than then what he's got going on. No no doubt man. I mean nobody's trying for him to the work that he's doing but you know it's still laborious a._f._c. Sure like andrew lucked you know paid. A whole. Lot of money doesn't have to play a lot of games man. Only only andrew lucked knows as i was bobby field so it's funny you mention that because richard he's done. He's a few surgeries and stuff like i dunno shoulder surgery or something like that and i know he's at home and he's trying to get healed up but he's anxious to get back in because the work just piles up whether he's in there or not work piles up he actions that he jumped at the opportunity to go up to mormons finish exhaust on that truck and i i was flabbergasted that he you jump at it because of you know how i thought he was feeling but man. He's he's working harder than they ever have yeah all right well. We've got we've we've got. We've got all sorts of updates. We've got some some car news and updates on <hes> on our projects and stuff like that but <hes> and then i'll tell what about the rolls royce that i'm driving the rolls royce cullen and <hes> i'm. I'm telling you like we're gonna get into a little more. It is impressive. You've gotta <hes> you've got to sort of you. Can't you can't take our review based on what other people people would think of you if you drove it. Let's talk about the car. Let's talk about the s._u._v. and then we'll talk about sort of the atmosphere behind it but before we get into that lot of news about the porsche taken the electric vehicle used to be the mission e. and the reason so why this is coming out now is because i believe the auto show i forgot which one it is is is coming up in the two weeks and i think it makes its official debut so no camouflage full interior exterior the whole deal and as you would imagine something from porsche needs to be top notch and needs to be good quality needs to be sporty and he's fit fit within a certain price point so there really isn't anything out there more determined to take tesla on head head to head then then porsche is doing and you know we're gonna see audis variant on it and you know and you know jaguars scott there. I pace which yeah i think is fantastic. I i like that thing you know. Jaguar still has a few infotainment issues that they're working on but <hes> i drove the pace and i felt like it was quick and it handled great and <hes> the size of it is sort of a good city size sort of s._u._v. type size. It's an and an l. A. where the roads are like a little crappy and and you've got parking garages arches go in and out of its kind of the right height like it's not too low. It's not too high. You don't have to lift the nose like you would in in a crazy sports car so i'm i'm. I'm a fan of that but so porsches entrance into this is is interesting so they've released. Porsche has released interior photos. Whereas if you guys haven't seen this yet it's pretty much being posted up everywhere and it it. It has a futuristic play a on what porsche is doing. You're going to see sort of a a traditional steering wheel. That's in their modern vehicles but now full digital digital dash the gauge clusters all digital and you don't really need a tachometer so they've got like power meters and things like that. I want to say that the screen is a sixteen point eight skirt sixteen point eight inch screen. You can configure here at all sorts of ways. That's becoming more and more commonplace now with the with the full screens. There's there's basically four main layouts. There's a classic classic mode and you can switch between map modes and things like that so it's kind of interesting but then across the dash is sort of a the short of a black glass if you will all the way across i think mercedes is doing something a little bit similar to that and and now you can access says all sorts of data from infotainment system and car play and things like that across the dash oh. I don't know if you've seen some of the pictures. It looks interesting. I actually reminiscent of course you know they jump their legacies out as future instincts as a as you can imagine <hes> i you know to me i'm more concerned with the exterior of the car and how much likened to the the original rendering as opposed to the photos that i've seen of it yeah <hes> you know it's not nearly as sporty as have renderings and the first edition <hes> or you know kind of clay model of this vehicle that was making its rounds. Got me so excited. <hes> you know i'm kinda. Just kind of blah on it now but you know the interior photos surely well you know strike accordin mm-hmm. It's definitely a step above anything that i've seen this out there yeah. I think i'm with you on this. I'm curious to see how the exterior actually pans out now. We saw the mission e. At monterey a year ago. Porsche was doing sort of a sort of an exterior demo no on the vehicle and talking about some of the body some of the arrow and and all the the electric technology and the like it charges is really fast with a certain kind of charger but you're like okay. We get into all the charging stuff at another time. Maybe we wanna do this with with allistair sure from edmonds because those guys are deep into that kind of stuff but you're like oh with the super charger that you can get from them. It'll charge. The car and i don't know eighty minutes like yeah. But which sort of power infrastructure do you need at your house to make that happy. You're not just going to plug this thing into a couple of outlets in your wall and do it by the way in two twenty does it either. I think you need more of an infrastructure to do it. So <hes> i mean i like the idea of what they're doing with it with with the porsche orsha you know i'm not buying in completely into this whole you know. It's super fast is charging. I just don't know we have the infrastructure to make that happen yet. But <hes> okay you want chris idly really interesting to hear the audio of the first time we've you got laid eyes on some rendering <hes> compared to the audio that were laying down right now you know because of the enthusiasm suzy azam with this car coming out is sure wayne you know on my side of the block for sure it has because now it's becoming real and and as it becomes real you the vehicle has to fall into more realistic world. You know you see these hired heard of this. I'm tired of this of this sequence to write those. This happened like ninety percent of the time. Oh yeah we were just at the concept lawn at pavel beach and you look at these cars and they're like oh look how thin the cds but it looks comfortable on. It's like floating in the car and and there's no gauges in the steering wheel is like barely held on and there's no side mirrors and everything's cameras in. You're like oh. That seems cool. That's a great idea and then the car companies like oh yeah like we're all in on like the rear view cameras instead of instead of side mirrors by all governments around the world. They're like they're way behind. They're never we're going to allow us to do cameras instead of instead of mirrors there so catch your eye yeah and like i go so. Are you doing this to prove technology or a proven this to keep telling the governing sanctioning bodies going. Hey man <hes> we can make this work. We've done this now. We can make this where we've done. Ten concept cars talk nine years with cameras. How about you guys green light this they which is i don't know i guess on some level. It's kind of getting there. I was <hes>. I was just driving oddly enough toyota rav four hybrid. I'm actually gonna get one so i- our friend david <hes> jessica works for for toyota and he said you should take a look at this thing because i was looking for a vehicle for my mom and my mom will will get eta vehicle. Keep it for ten years. I need to get something that's good warranty and reliable pretty good quality and she wanted a little s._u._v. so i i ordered up a row for hybrid with all the options and and and and whatnot and of course i'll i'll end up paying for art thank you. I got the hybrid for two reasons one. Ah i don't wanna pay for the gas and this is more efficient and to the hybrid actually has a better powertrain warranty and she will keep the vehicle for a long time but one of the things in there that i thought was interesting was there is a rear view mirror mirror and in one mode. It's just like you'd expect. It's a piece of glass mirrored glass but you realize the rear view mirrors and cars ars. You can see like the rear seats or if you have a big s._u._v. you see a couple rows of seats or your stack of gear in the back or whatever and then you gotta see out the back window bill you know and driving a truck or an escalade or or wanda's like three fifty. You're going to see a bunch of truck doc or bunch of stuff in the bed of the truck before you see the cars behind you so this this rear view mirror has that mode but also it has a rear camera camera and when you just flip the switch the entire rear view mirror switches to of a high definition full color <hes> <hes> a video a monitor basically and you realize when you look at it because the cameras placed in the back of the vehicle you get get sort of a wide angle view of the rear of traffic behind you but no rear seats and all that stuff so if you'll loaded loaded up your pickup truck or something with stuff you wouldn't see it because the camera anyway the raft four has it and the way it full that the image goes was full screen in the mirror so when i get in it you're like wow this mirror looks really good. I how did the image out so then you realize oh it's a camera camera the and then the other thing i noticed was a lot of the s._u._v.'s have like all tinted windows in the back right from the factory. So your your normal mirror her is darker but when you switch it in the camera and it was fantastic so i saw that i made sure that was in the row four four my mom. I thought it was a great feature and it's very it. Is i tell you here's a funny story. Is i liked that camera deal with the rear rear view mirror so much. This isn't when you put it in reverse it goes on you can leave it on it in a full. It's the full rear view mirror like once you just sort of get used to the fact like a lot of these cars had the heads up display and it seems a little off putting out i but i've been driving so many different press cars that you use the heads up display you kinda look right through it and you kind of glance at it almost like bifocals and this rear view mirror. It takes a little bit of getting used to but it's fine. I liked it so much. I did some research into who has the patent on it and i found <hes> this guy i think his name was erik. Had the patent he works at a company. He works at a a big public like technology manufacturer called gen tax and they're like a tier one supplier to all the automotive companies. I reached each out to jen tax and i said i love this mirror idea. I wanna get one. How do i do it and i wanna put one in my ford light and after a couple of rounds at emails i got a hold of somebody like sure that sounds good us so they are looking into which camera to us because i don't think they've done a pickup truck yet and they're getting back to be on that and i'm putting that thing in the truck. This is gonna be a groundbreaking vehicle. You never knew that you were gonna get once. You've got people now now now. It's i ah it's going to be fine. Yeah and we're going to give alabama more because as these projects go you know this as well as anybody. It's starting to snowball. Already and things are happening and i. I'm picking up the truck on thursday and then i'm <music>. I'm out of town for two days and on tuesday it goes back to another shop and i'll get into that a little bit more but anyway that i think i think the technology we're starting to see in these modern day. Cars like the take hand is going to be interesting but you you know these guys are getting away with this rear view camera type of <hes> mirror. Maybe because you can turn it on and off. Maybe see that's how they're selling it but i'm all for side mirrors. Get the side mirrors that our cameras now take the side mirrors off the car. They all look stupid. Anyway and let's get used to this camera technology besides everything has like anti lane departure. You know like warning systems in an steers. The vehicle breaks vehicle for you. Your massages your leg. Oh especially if you're driving the rolls royce buddy. I've is getting a massage. Assange getting cooled seats. I was i was backing up and somebody kept walking behind me and the and the truck kept hitting the brakes sir. I couldn't hit something if i wanted to say that some of the best button they have vehicles. Now is the one that turns those off yeah. The off button seems to be the most exciting sort of the most exciting version of it <hes> about the roles man okay well first gyco go instead. Everybody's got a to do list drop off dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Now you can add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. You can add that to the list. You don't have to drop off or pick up anything you just go to geico dot com and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance so if you want some extra your money in your pocket. This is the most rewarding to do you can do today. Checkout geico dot com okay so roles rice. A little back story on this real quick was a few years ago going to monterey rolls royce offered adop- adamant. I a rolls royce ghost for a road trip and like a lot of you. Atoms thought was i don't know. I don't know if i'm a rolls royce guy. I'm not sure it it's got the image that i want to project and i said yeah but it's a press car. We've got a road trip so let's give it a try and he said all right. Let's do it. We drove this. The increase actually was with us. We drove this to monterey drove it back and we got out of goes. I get it now. I get it. The rolls royce is the best driving smoothest vehicle. You can get out there. They have what about me. Please tell me he made you drive and we're a chauffeur's outfit. Gonna make him sit in the back by chris and it out of sun sunny or were in the back the whole time and by the way you roll up to those events up in monterey which seems more appropriate and there's a there's of dirt field full of ferrari's audis by when you roll up on the rolls royce ace. They're like no no you can park up front. It's just a different world with that car and it rolls royce is is you know all the music music videos and and whatnot that you kinda see them rolling around in like the rolls royce. Is you know what it is. It's it's a a treat that <hes> let's say an older couple. <hes> an older couple have been working. Their whole lives have been successful and maybe they're in their late sixty s or even early seventy s and purchasing the rolls royce is is as a treat and almost like a vacation like you get to go in like building a new house or getting a beach house or or you know because some of these are almost as much as a beach house but you you go in and all these cars are bespoke. You can get anything you want and you this this s._u._v. Has you know the two seats in the front. It has the rear seat which is sort of a rear bench seat so you can fit three people but hey you want to captain's chairs with heated and cooling lina massaging no problem they'll do it. It's got really nice would on the interior but you don't want. Would you want something else you want. I don't know you want marble. You want pearl. You want carbon carbon fiber. They'll do it for you. That's the whole point is rolls royce's sort of a for for lack of better term. It's a bespoke production car so so we have a one the rolls royce cullen an s._u._v. that we're driving now <hes> it's a it's a press car but it will be sold or maybe even changed before a customer gets because they don't have a lot of these press cars. When you go to the dealer you don't really like a lot of these things and there's ten of them and you you pick the one you want you drive home. No it's all about the order process and and getting the updates on one that's going to be done and picking the materials and feeling the different leathers and and the the the the the plush carpets and all that stuff and then when you get your vehicle vehicle. It's it's like hey what what is this. What is this nice retired couple do or what's his hard working older couple. Doing you know <unk> of a date night or fun night. They go out well. They get invited to these rolls royce events in come in and meet other people and and by the way i bet it is an an amazing networking event because a whole bunch of super successful people in a room sipping expensive cocktails and eating nice food and go ahead what do you do. I like your rolls royce but also like what do you do in. Somebody's like i run an airline. I run a bank and i bet it's like it's it's. It's getting a membership up to a super exclusive club so that's sort of the rolls royce lifestyle if you well but let me tell you about the vehicle the rolls royce cohen. Let's just get this other. Way has a base price of three hundred twenty five thousand dollars. It is not for the faint of heart the one that i'm driving driving as equipped with some very lovely things comes in at a few pennies under four hundred ten thousand dollars and if you look at the options list <hes> it is <hes> it is quite interesting. <hes> the the sound system whatever the sound system upgrade is. I assume the base model comes with a sound system. This upgrade is about ten thousand dollars. The clock on the dash which is gorgeous is sixty eight hundred dollars and the super plush floor mats the the wool or whatever it is something <hes>. I don't remember what it is. I don't have the notes in front of me but the i don't have the monroney in front of me but the formats are fifteen hundred dollar option it has the rear infotainment tehmina screen it has <hes> <hes> the picnic tables in the back seats and a full touchscreen and and it is it is it is gorgeous <hes> <hes> all the doors are full power. When you get out of the vehicle you hit a button. The door closes by itself. When you get in the vehicle you hit a button on the dash. The door closes by itself off. You open the doors in the back and very traditional to rolls royce. There is a umbrella in the door. You hit the button that pops out you slide it out also being very very burnish rains a lot but i'll tell you this about the rolls royce and i've said this before it is the smoothest nicest driving vehicle you can get rolls royce calls at their magic carpet ride using air bags and i'm sure a bunch of other technology. It is fantastic. The guys are so smart. I'm from if i remember this correctly when when b._m._w. Like sort of retired. I think it was the b._m._w. Williams f one team they took a bunch of those engineers and move them over to rolls royce voice. Obviously you don't want to fire them like them. They were working hard and said you guys can do stuff at rolls royce so using cameras on the vehicle and and using g._p._s. and the g._p._s. polls the maps and it reads the terrain it gets topography of the terrain and with the use of cameras cameras and the rolls royce will adjust the suspension on the fly as it sees the road ahead of you and will adjust the transmission to make it a smooth as possible so if it sees a dip in the road or a hill coming up in front of you it it prepares ahead of time and and makes the nicest smoothest ride you can get so it should shouldn't it. Oh oh my god and they do it like they. They get it down this. The s._u._v. is big. I wanna say two hundred thirteen inches or so. The new ford explorer or is two hundred inches. I want to say a navigators probably about that to ten to fifteen range so it fits in that range <hes> but it is to rose tons of legroom in the back like i said you can get massaging seats heated seeds cooled seats of pretty much anything you want <hes> in there now the powerplant his big it is a v twelve twin turbo and i don't have the full specs facts in front of me but something like five hundred seventy something horsepower and six hundred plus pound feet of torque and beyond. I don't know how to explain it like it is so smooth so linear and so quiet it you you feel like you're driving an electric car. You you roll into the throttle. It's smooth and it doesn't make a noise and you you'd think you're driving an electric car and if you really just mashed down onto it and get it into the higher rpm you can start here the engine and a little bit of a noise to it but this thing is the smoothest running thing out there i. I don't know how they're getting it done like we. We know oh that b._m._w. Straight six a very smooth running engine but this well is fantastic and it's a it's a b._m._w. Source engine so b._m._w. Owns rolls royce. The cars are built actually bill. I'm sure you've seen it there. The rolls royce factory is right outside of of like chichester where the goodwood festival of speed is in the revival. See it but i heard about. I heard him whereabouts out there yeah yeah if you go to revival not hell climb but if you've got a revival getting in and out of that track you you see the rolls royce factory right there the whole time and so it's b._m._w. Owned and the engines come from them. Everything else is pretty much rolls royce. I keep trying to tell them. Hey we wanna wanna come out to revival. Can we tour the factory but we haven't been revival back there in a little bit but anyway it's it's. It's gorgeous you do you should drive one. Everyone should get a chance to drive on. Everyone should get a chance to drive in one. I don't know like i feel like maybe like the women a chance to see one yeah like like if if you get to an auto show and you get to get up on one get up on one like put your a hand in those carpets and you're going to be like these carpets are two inches thick and they're the most comfortable thing ever you kind of want to just curl up on them and i'm cool cool cool to see that there's still an automaker out there that is far and away you know in a class of opulence that is above everyone else and <hes> has been there for so long and with the test of time can still be there years later. You're right. You're right the legacy is. I don't know maybe a hundred years old. I'm guessing on something like rolls rolls. Royce bentley just celebrated one hundred years rolls royce has got to be up there and why is it expensive because it's completely bespoke. It's made to order and this company needs to survive on selling a few hundred vehicles a year. I don't know maybe three hundred vehicles a year across their lineup and it's i. I like i said you really kind of buying a membership to this exclusive club hand and what does that mean like. How do you comprehend and that <hes> how to us. Normal people comprehend that well people pay a lot of money to be a part of like <hes> some exclusive allusive gym club or or or social club or a golf course right like what are some of these golf memberships cost fifty grand a hundred grand. Yeah keep going right like i feel like your brother's a big golfer. Don't you have a hell no now now. We go out there just to just just to have a different setting to drink beers. I know you guys do a lot of charity events and things like that. I think adamson one two and then i we do about hey there okay last year. I may have played golf four times when they were in for charity. Tournament of course are more. I'm more than happy to emasculate myself for your money underprivileged for sure but for the most part no right but i i don't know what some of these memberships got to be one hundred thousand dollars year or more and that doesn't mean you play you still go and pay to play. This is just the base membership so anyway. That's kind of the i don't. I don't know i don't think you get the no. I don't think you have to pay you know per round. <hes> you know there are certain editions. You have to pay for but certain pets member. Hey i'll well. I'll full transparency. You know there was a golf course behind my house here in southern california or the had a membership that came with the house. I had it for a little while and hey man you know it was it was around twenty five grand a year so it wasn't anything ridiculous but hey man they're. They're upwards of a quarter of a million dollars. I can imagine even more but a number of place yeah. They've got to be but anyway. That's that's sort of defines what this this is but anyway <hes> it's fantastic vehicle. It's wonderful the drive. It's going back today when i leave here and i will be sad about it but i'm gonna go. Pick up my truck which i'll tell you guys <hes> give you a little update on that but i i wanna tell you guys better friends at brembos again. You know you've heard us talk about these guys. We've done a bunch of stuff with them and get the brembos on m three and we got him over on some of the race cars. We custom make some of the kids for the race cars using parts from brenda. We work with engineers to make that happen so these guys make make the best offer sure sixty. Kaziro is the number that they want you to know about. It's that breaking number. 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They have the rotors and brake pads true story. It sounds like it's now it's still part part of the ad is true story. I was like unit. We fired up the website brembos store u._s._a. Dot com found the brake pads for her infinity and an uh order the rotors in order the brakes of the brake pads and then she said where else can we get them and i said here's thing is you don't know if you're going to get the genuine stuff you gotta go. The authorized dealer in the best place to do that is this store and because we have ten percent off used car cast ten you get you save. Dave on your purchase and you know you're getting the good stuff so that's what we did went to brembos store u._s._a. Dot com. He's car cast ten for the promo so you know i gotta say i'm so honored to it'd be doing this podcast with you. 'cause that's professional. You can so easily and seamlessly integrator story into an ad to make it can sound as if you hadn't gone that all along that's true story. It just happens to ju- story and i was excited about it was like cutie breaks for your car. I know where to go. Let's do this. Let's go online shop. I was like you use my coupon. Code more excited so ah the captain brembos gosh. I really do that. Oh i we're going to get into that more later because i'm gonna design a brake system for my truck because you can't get it and we're gonna have to use some brand bo pieces. I'm going to have to build something from scratch after you after you saw that video is saying i'm gonna the new brembos to up their game challenge. Tell us about that. Are you gonna post-abc. Keep in mind as you. Everybody's listening to this. We're in the studio week week early so by time defeat on my instagram on my instagram follow golden garage judge on instagram and of course goldberg nine five and he's got a little video. It's a little bit of update on one of his vehicles and on <hes> turn up the volume and it's gonna be. It's gonna be fun man. That sounds fun. That sound is terrifying. It's all you wait to get back car yeah. It's it's it's going to be fantastic but that's all tell you that that thing is going to be scary and by the way the vehicle we're talking about is the lesser horsepower. One of the vehicles geico is that you're building it comes it comes with a year's subscription murray year supply of depend. It's going to need them. Oh my gosh. It's going to need them yeah. You're going to need a man. It's you guys are gonna be excited to check that out so follow goldberg nine five and goldberg's garage on on instagram ceram. You'll see the videos up there and probably more updates by time you hear this <hes> so the banks over gale banks engineering they are. They said they're pretty much done with the truck. They put the dash gauges in there. They're doing all the data logging. I'm gonna go over there this week and we're going to run it on the dino. Get get some baseline testing and then we start building from there then in a couple of days. I'm just gonna bring the truck truck back. I'm gonna drive for a day or two and then it's going over to our friends over galp an autosport. You guys have heard of gas before ernie seen him on t._v. And their their local dealer here the big ford dealer out here number one dealer in the world i believe for uh. I don't know twenty seven years in a row twenty eight years in a row god bless they sell cars but galp and autosport is is they're. They're aftermarket could shop. They do everything you can imagine over there on any kind of make and model by the way you wanna bring your camaro in there. They do work on it and all kinds of stuff so i hit them up and i he said guys. I've got this project. I gotta get this suspension installed and i got some steering components installed and <hes> and i need some custom work and they said they're going to take care of all of it so i'm going in there. I'm gonna meet with them. We're going to get the truck lowered. Get the stance right and and do a quick ratio a steering box and hopefully that's gonna make a huge difference with how this thing performs and that's before we get into the motor so that's going to be pretty pretty exciting. Thing is well. That's great stuff man. I mean you know it's the domino effect did you were you knew it was going to happen yeah. Yeah it's good i i. I'm curious to get over to banks as well because i don't know if they ended up doing an inner cooler or are they did some are in dion. We're going to do it later but they had some idea so. They said hey we've. We've got an inner color where they've been developing. I think for a jeep if you want to add a super charger turbo a jeep <hes> they developed an inner core or to make that happen and i don't know if it's air to air or water related anything about it. They were going to do some testing and i'm not sure where they how far they got but i'm gonna find out real soon and on the next episode. We'll give you guys an update. <hes> i let me tell you guys a little bit about dodge. We love our friends at dodge. Summertime is the the best time to join the brotherhood of muscle because dodge power dollars means. You get a guaranteed discount. The math is simple. You get ten dollars off based on the total total horsepower of your new vehicle. That's ten dollars off. So if you go and get yourself a a hell cat red eye with seven hundred ninety seven horsepower you get seven thousand nine hundred seventy dollars off so go to the dodge summer clear events and now hit up one of your dealers and get that get that discount <hes> <hes> and speaking of dogs. You know we keep talking about these updates fraud out there again but the guys gearhead fabrications down in florida. They're the ones that are doing all these <hes> dodge transformations. I think they're doing most all of the motors for <hes> the speed core guys too so we all know the past performance of the motors. They haven't durham ankles so it's it's an interesting <hes> business. They've run. I'm down there on his florida man. They pump out some seriously fast cars. Oh yeah i gotta i gotta pay. I got a <hes> pine slip from <hes> <hes> my <hes> mark carlisle yeah the drag racing in his in his red. I ran a nine two. Wow yeah it's good. I liked that our partnership with with speed core of speed core develops a lot of the parts and those guys get it all kind of dialed in and work on the big power <hes> the big engines for those things <hes> it's good. I'm excited to see those updates now. Get some more videos get. It's a more fake pictures. Follow us on social media. Get them all up there all right. We're going to wrap things up. Man goes quickly but we will <music> give you more some. I'll give you some more updates next week. <hes> hopefully on the next episode. We'll have updates on on your cars. At least the <hes> the challenger and i'll have dino results and other results for the lightning as well impossibly lease some sima announcements will be all right guys. Thanks so much for listening and we appreciate your reviews and five star ratings things on itunes and telling a friend and tweeting about the shows we appreciate all that you can go to car cash show dot com post pictures and stuff up there but really all the good stuff his on our social media you can go to at motor and you can go to coburg nine five globex garage on instagram. That's where all the carbon content is. <hes> all right guys thank you so much. 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WWHL @ Home with Porsha Williams and W. Kamau Bell (Parts 1 and 2)

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WWHL @ Home with Porsha Williams and W. Kamau Bell (Parts 1 and 2)

"Hi I'm Megan Sarah and I'm Eric J. Is the daily Dish Bravo's official podcast. This week real housewives of Atlanta's Porsche Williams in W.. Kamau Bell. John Andy Cohen on watch what happens live at home for a discussion about race in America and the Black Lives Matter Movement Porsche detailed her first experience with racism. Explain why she's pushing for a complete police reform W. Kamau Bell told Andy why he thinks. The death of Floyd was the turning point in getting non black people to pay attention to racism against black people in the country. We're bringing you both episodes in full. What listen. Hey everybody welcome to watch. What happens live at home from the Hamptons. Tonight I'm Andy Cohen on our first show back after a two week break over those two weeks, the nation's wounds were cracked open by the racist murder of George Floyd has led to protests in all fifty states and important conversations about who we are as a country which brings me to this show tonight, which is going to look and feel different than past watch what happens lives and it? Should I know that nobody's coming to me or this show to get their news I get it. Trust me I really do, but to stay silent during a moment like this in our country would. would be irresponsible and complicit. It's not only my view, but my responsibility to speak up and say that black lives do matter so tonight. We're going to have a conversation about racism in the country I may not be the Messenger you imagined. I may screw it up now, and then it might feel a little awkward, but I have a platform and privilege, and I'm hoping I can use them to help us all. Do a little bit better so I want to begin now. My first guest is a friend of all of our. She's a real outside of Atlanta and the granddaughter of Civil. Rights activist. Reverend Hosea Williams please welcome our friend Porsche William say Porsche. Good, thank you for joining US tonight. And he is an activist. Stand up comic and host of the Emmy Award winning Docu series United Shades of America which will begin its fifth season on CNN later this month. Say Hi to W. Kamau Bell. Hey Kamau. New Friend of the show. Right I can come back with. Have Euros growing. Is it Bummer Day? Actually. Bummer. But by the way I mean it is, but aren't you? Is there a part of you? That's glad that we're at least having this conversation. The conversation's been a lot, so the congress is good to see the conversation again or not excited. Until we see, the steps are taken out of the conversation the conversation. Going back to 'em until before, but like you know, the the Rodney King Verdict OJ Simpson the you know nine eleven in this country have a lot of conversations are the actions of the structures institutions gonNA changed the request. That is the big question. I WANNA start a little bit at the beginning with Youtube personally. I'm wondering for both of you Porsche you start. What what is the first time in each of your lives that you remember experiencing racism poor show you you start. While for me being the granddaughter of a Civil Rights, leader You would think that I would have been where of it. I guess you'll be shocked. As early as that was where I was about six years old when I went to. My first March and it was here in Georgia, for South Site County and You know I was excited to go forth as a little kid. You know you're GONNA. Get a worker Granddad you here. He's doing all this stuff and we get out there and I'm excited again. Innocent thing in the sauce we shall overcome etcetera and. Smacked in the face with racism. We came across Klu Klux Klan. Who decided they were GonNA protest are protests and they threw rocks. It s I. Actually got hit with one and they chased us all the way back to the buses. Because we have buffalo, the people with us they traces back to the buses in called us the N. Word and any other. Other thing you can imagine the KKK. We'll be calling us but that now that I look back. I can research in understand what I was. The part of it I feel empower because we were out there to there at such a young age with my grandfather, because county is really racist like they had actually driven out. All of the African Americans live there. Over the years, and so we were going to basically set now. We need to bring back in here and Yeah, that was the first time I really got slapped with it as a little girl and Evan adult as a black woman. Listen I deal with it throughout the years in my own way. While getting rocks thrown at you at six years old when you're going to see your grandfather, who you're obviously really proud of. Do what he does best. I mean that's that's chilling and what? I didn't understand it, so of course after that it was the conversation with my dad. When got home to let me know Abed? Some people do hate you even though you may be trying to do a good thing, but I'll what I got out of that as the keep going regardless I never saw my grandfather. Stop I never saw my dad. Stop and the movement is still continuing on and I think that is a part of what has with inside of me. That's not gonNA stop I'm I know that people are protesting now and I know that a lot of times when the media stops covering it, then it. Kinda died down end, but it's not gonNA. Stop this on. Canal. What is the first your first memory of experiencing racism as a kid? It's funny to think about that as a black person in America. You start experiencing before you realize what's happening and so a lot of times. We'll storage told you later. Like for example Andy. Did you know that some people consider it to be good luck to rub the head of a little black child. Yeah maybe. So did. You. Yeah Right. From a very young age, my mom told me that story of a white man reaching out to rub my head, when I was a toddler and her having to magazine away and Cedeno. My mom not grow up in Mississippi this. IT WAS IN INDIANAPOLIS INDIANA! did not know in a store was going to rub my head 'cause he wanted good luck. So I think. Now. We remember, but we're dealing with it well before you have the knowledge of that, it's happening and you had people around family were trying to protect you from its I. have several stories of racism past that Vermont to store to explain to me when I was around around six, that I was going to be fobbed time. I was in a store by store detective and I. Better Be careful what I up and if I pick it up better by you know. A lot of the early by racist is what my mom was preparing for. The would happen annuals. Come Out, it has been you know. After after a well documented history of racism in this country, it's been George. Floyd's unconscionable murder that has sparked this incredibly powerful movement that we're in the midst of right now. What do you think it's? What do you think it is about this moment? In time that is finally getting non black people to not just acknowledge the rampant systemic racism in our country, but to join in the fight against it. I mean it's very clear to me. Because non black people are forced to watch it because they were already at home, watching the news because we're still in the middle of condemning is quite as. You know and the pandemic need. You can't focus on the big movie coming out. You can't focus on the big concrete or this coming to town. You can't focus on Kabul. Chip on your after work social date that you're GonNa, go hang out. You can't even really tender without effectively social distance. All the things you normally do are pushed aside, and we add Muslims are home watching the news and this push the news of covid. WHO's and put this black man's death on the news? Most of the videos are seen by black folks. We like we have to see trump protection, but white people sort of think they saw. It because there's other things they can focus up, but they've been forced to see it because it's all renews and Yay Remade Party at home, watching the news. You know it's so interesting that you say that because I've been thinking. You know that that I've been aware obviously through the years of these horrible crimes, but why haven't I stopped up and acted further? Why has it taken this and it's interesting to know that you feel like. There's more of a mass group of people that are watching this to to to react to it. I! Mean I don't think George floor. Can I hate the credit? Compare lackey regional by COPS. It's horrible, but it's not more horrible than Eric. Garner choked up by COPS in New York City right. You know it's like it's not. there. When I would imagine most white people heard about that. Probably say well. Air Garments doing some wrong. And also this weekend is the met gala or Maybe bigs up. So it's just there's things to distraction you don't. Look at it. Look at it because your priority watching the news, you know. At News replaying this a lot, so you had to run in a different way, my three. That's why this moment needs, but let devising comes up tomorrow I. Think a lot of his talk about white people. Saying I'm going to help rooms away. Really you think so. I think that until they really dig into change part of the conversation when. They when you people can say you people yeah. Do it when. You get into the structural digging into fixing part you. If you're in the conversation part with win the when the vaccine comes out, it's going to be easy to be like men movies coming out I. Mean I'll get to it on Monday but I. All right. Let me leave it there for a second. We'll be right back. Welcome back to watch what happens, live at home. Your host, Sandy Cohen a great conversation. My gas, Porsche Williams and W Komo Bell. You know obviously there are deep-rooted structural and institutional forces that have served to create and maintain systemic racism in America. What is something that we people? My people can work to change I. Where do where should we begin? I think personally I think that you know I think it's one thing to go out and join in the protests. That is beautiful, because lessen the protests have gained the attention of the media, which is provoking conversation, but I think as as white people who really want to make a change in their understanding around the world. Everyone is, and it has to be a change. Let's go to what practical things we can do. Number One. We already know that the. is full of white supremacist correct, so what we need to do is dismantle that system, and why people are recognizing that the system has been built by them, and they're possibly the only ones dismantle it become a part of that bandwagon along with the African Americans who are saying all right well. The police needs to be police, so we need to have some type of integrity unit along with the police system to double check their investigations. We also need to start monitoring and possibly we need to create a bill so that these police people are not in the good old boy days where they suffered tactic and have this immunity. They have a troop protective back around that and again I can say. Say It all day. Other black people can stand all day, but it is powerful when white people speak up on factual things that are happening in the polices that needs to be reformed and just be specific. That's all I ask them about white people I understand. It's scary to talk about these things, but we do need to be specific for real change, and so that when you about you know who you're voting for, you know what change they can make. You know what prosecutor Stanford what we stand for, and that way we can really began to really change was happening here in America so poor, so your, not for dismantling the police. You are for some sort of oversight of police to. To get rid of some of the systemic racism that's happening in the organization. All, yeah I actually want complete police reform I want the system to be completely changed the way it is set up right now. like say here in Atlanta It may be same others but I know our law ablaze making say Oh. Well. I actually felt that. My life was threatened so at the end of the day. Who is to say whether his life was threatened or not, so in any case of police brutality. That's why they always scream out loud into their microphones, etc, whether it is the camera or not be still stop resisting because David Lean on that fact that they are giving the benefit of the doubt being that they're in a job. That is high risk that they can. Can say my life was at risk, and this is what I reacted in that way, so you have to understand why these police are feeling like they can be this aggressive, and I'm not just talking about. Ask a white policeman. It's also African American policeman who had taken on his mentality because they feel they're in a paternity I'm. They have somehow joined the good old boys? Its entirety needs to change. You've been advocating Porsche, for the passage of House bill. Six thirty six past is that? Does that have to do with this? So Am House, Bill, six, thirty, six well and create the type of accountability that we all need them to have right, so it will actually create a database now. Here's the thing we've people. We don't know who we're dealing with. If I commit a crime, you can look online and see my mugshots. Okay. was there two of them? You can look on C. Mica. Mica Plate record right well with the police you. We don't have that opportunity we don't. We don't know who we're dealing with. We don't know how to have any point of recourse, so it will create a database that will list any officer who has abused and has used excessive force against the public, so we can say officer might have Mike Mike. He'll Lord that. Guy Opposite Mike Smith has. Three different accounts where he is abused. His power now I can go to state instead. What are we going to do this? He has missing spended. He has been reprimanded in any other way, so this bill will actually put the power back in our hand by making that record public for us and a lot of politicians. What right now? They're out campaigning. You ask them that they'll say I agree. I'll give behind that bill, but what a specific will be public to us. Will we be able to see? You support that bill. I feel like I can leave I think horses got it from here. I'm sitting here. Watching canals slowly fall in love with Porsche and I. I feel like. Come Out, let's be real when you heard you were on with the real outside of Atlanta. You didn't know what you were in for here tonight, right? Every black woman you know everybody wanted to planning maybe doesn't have this deep level of insight about it, but has knowledge about this guy cry. Going the Ri-. Different man tonight. I think a big thing that you do listen the women. The women hold all these stories, the stories of racism, the stories of sexes of it's all intersectional in a black wounds body, and we don't listen to black women they. Everybody woman in your life can tell you more about racism and oppression than anybody else in your life probably so I listened to black women the. Three things one. It is unfortunate, but true in America. that a white person whisper is worth more than black person's screen. So white people when you call your congressman when you send an email to your to your congressperson when you call the police, the police is I would like start about reform. It just means more the reason why this is. The news is 'cause. People see white bodies out there. If black up there, it would wouldn't talk about peaceful. This's even if it was the same level. And the third thing I saying this is that I'm doing personally for me. Do you Zyppah freedom I think white people need to talk to people who already have started doing this work so I'm assiting my wife friend Kate Schatz wrote the Brad American women eight of the to all likely blind note that includes you now envy Kate sats. She white woman, who's already doing the work is on twitter and sees hanging out over to white folks because you're not gonNA. Listen to US than same way. You need to get with your white folks. Were you started doing? And also I heard you before. Come on, you mentioned surge, which is very important showing up for racial injustice is that what is racial racial justice? Is that right? Yes that is the I went on that website, and it's the wealth of information for why people who WanNa. Be Involved, and you're going to hear from another white person Um, so. I thought that was pretty powerful. All right more with Porsche and Kamau after this. Welcome back to watch what happens live at home I'm andy here with W Kamau Bell and Porsche Williams? What can you tell us about the upcoming season of united shades of America by the way? Were on the for the quarantine happened, but it's GonNa. Feel like we ripped from the headlines. We have an episode about reparations episode about white supremacy. We have an episode about America a American farms family farms, and how they're not being supported by the government We have an episode about politics schools and talk a lot about schools right now, because a distance learning, so it's GonNa. Feel like we need was coming, but I promise you did not okay well. We look forward and that's in about a month. Later this summer, yes. Well. I hope what you've heard tonight. As inspired you to want to help if you're eager to join the fight, but not sure where to begin guess tonight or each going to name and organization that we could use your love right now. Porsche are where you highlighting tonight. I definitely y highlight now I have to say it's an actually an email We are getting out. People who have been arrested for peacefully protesting a denizen I and they can just email help. At New Civil Rights Dot Org, and that's what we're doing. We're doing our part that way and also the Lacey P.. Legal Defense. Fine is another one that I think is great, well Komo Europe. Amount or visit call loopy USA in the that work other program right now. Call Masks for the people that is helping black and Brown, you'll be to get artist by covid nineteen do get free unique last. That's great. Well I'd like to call attention to to really amazing organizations tonight. I I want to highlight the American Civil Liberties Union. which I have joined officially. I know Kamau is an ambassador for racial justice. There and I also want people to know about the national. Black Justice Coalition, a civil rights organization dedicated to the empowerment of black lgbtq people, including people living with HIV AIDS and B. J. C. is committed criminal justice and prison reform, which is vital in. In light of the wave protesters presently being arrested by police, and they're currently fighting to protect black families against covid nineteen, as they've been disproportionately affected by the virus, I hope you join me in supporting this amazing organization. I'm donating and I you will to. This has been a great conversation and what I WANNA do is continue it Porsche and come out. Stay right there. We want you to join US tomorrow and we'll keep this thing going. We'll see that. And thank you, Andy Thank you so much for this Disney so much. It really really does working working for you and knowing that you use support us like. Really make you bet you back. Outlines. All right. Welcome to watch what happens live at home from the Hamptons. I'm your host. Andy Cohen last night. We began an important conversation about systemic racism in our country tonight. We're going to continue the conversation with W Kamau. Bell and Porsche Williams Porsche on your instagram posted an eight minute video of Atlanta protest which quickly went. From protesters peacefully dancing in the street to police, using tear gas and flash bombs on the crowd. What do you say to potential protestors who are being scared off by the unprovoked attacks from authorities? Keep going. They can't stop us. I know lifting invest one of the reasons why I wanted to be out there on the front line first hand because I want to know what they feel before I. Even speak on it, and yeah I got teargassed, have milk court in my face to relieve my eyes from that insane burning, but he going because what they're trying to do is silence you once again. Okay? We have the National Guard here we had. Had the APD and the crowds can be peaceful, and they are trying to provoke the crowds in make them angry and make them act out so that they can turn on the camera and say Oh. Look what happened. The peace protesters turned awry. Don't do that. Be militant like our people like like people before US Martin Luther. King my grandfather Reverend Hosea. Williams listen. They were had dog biting them. They had worked. they were gas. They were They were killed in the streets with from the police baton. We have not received that just yet on that level, but it could possibly be going there so if you're active processes. Knock where the pitcher is not just to be out there. You are out there to buy. Stay focused on your mission, and that is to be heard and to. To be saying absolutely so I would just say. Don't let them intimidate US period and don't let the media intimidates you either, but the media is trying to only focus on the rioters, the possible that what they call looting and that has taken the complete focus away from what the protesters are doing, so don't listen to the media. Heat marching forward. Okay for both of you. As a white man I have not had to think about my race very often, and that fact in itself is an example of privilege. What do you say to white people with little experience discussing race who were eager to fight for racial justice and want to educate themselves and put in the work, but. They're worried about stepping into a minefield and doing or saying the wrong thing. I mean I can start on that. Before, be confident of doing and saying the wrong thing. You're going to say the wrong thing except. And when you say the. Wrong thing do this thing that humans do apologizing and working to make it better. You know this is stuff. They teach you on Specimen Street Daniel Tiger. All across. Children's television is learning how to say I'm sorry and how to make it better so if you don't get me, go watch Daniel Tiger and learn saying I'm sorry is the first step then. Can I help I? Feel like you're going to do the wrong thing. The history of black clothes fighting the right movement is trying things that didn't work. move onto the next thing. I mean that's the issue of change in this country Martin. Luther King Junior wasn't born going. We have to go march on Washington. When I turned thirty five years old, he was, that didn't happen he. He did a lot of things to figure out. How do I get this message across? So why don't he will be able to be corrected? Review the wrong. Thank and if you get your heart, feelings and four, so you know you did the wrong. But. When he read another situations. That's what feelings are for. Network, so, what are you you? WanNa add to this. Exactly this whole conversation is intimidating. This whole conversation is uncomfortable even for me. I'm living in black skin, so I understand, you know white people feel like they don't know what to say, but silence is is the worst thing to do. and just islands equals death. Death Silence, equals violence, so I would just say to white people. See Yourself in the movement. Understand that. If you don't make a move, then you will also be in trouble in the end is not just not be black people as you can see. They're putting these curfews and Marshall's lies. Starting to have everybody got go under house. It ain't just black. Right so I would just say your stuff in the movement, and then take a look inside of who you are not you may not necessarily identify is racist. But how many black friends do you have? Do you go online If you don't I would just say amplified leg, voices possibly Someone where the black podcast that you haven't to like, amplify black lives in what we're trying to do is an easy way to do it, and you can do it on home if you don't WanNa leave your house yet. Social media is very very powerful. And I saw the a lot of people joined into the black box. That was one thing, but what's done last long term? is you seeing yourself in the movement when I used to sell furniture? I was the best sales person because he's sold furniture so furniture for a road ago. Runco and I was the best person because what I would do I would make family visualize himself narrow ivy, like you say you already are billy sitting on the couch, drinking a beer and mom in the kitchen across and the daughter of me on the chair when the automates, if someone can visualize themselves, emotionally connected, so we need to get that connection from white people in this movement. Movement and I think that's what happened. If I go back to people watching that video of George more being murdered, they saw though that that white man's is that police officers is they were blank, and if you have ever looked in the face of an abuser, which I have had using my past, and you see those black is it is striking it it it actually. It stuns you and then if you look down below his knee, UC, the helplessness of George Moi it will affect you and the amount of time that we all had to sit and endure his pain. He took his last Rep. America took their first. Brent believed that and we have taken a breath. To make a change at truly truly believe that, and that's why you see people all around the globe who've been touched by this one black man here in America being snuffed out by a policeman committing police brutality. Come on. What have you had to tell your kids? You have three kids. What have you had to tell your kids about growing up black what they should expect and how did you do that? I mean I think. We were always very clear with our oldest daughter did the first one that we would like? Make sure that we were reading books including media in front of her that showed different people, incidentally people within like hers and told stories about about people's stay like her one thing that white parents have to do is stop just reading the basic kids books to their little kids and issue. You're reading books about people who look different than your kids. There's a there's a golden age of books of kids, books and kids media. It's very easy to make sure you're reading books about Muslims. And Black Kids in Asian. Kids get get more than one type of media from your kid. The other another thing we did when she turned four, because we had a racist incident happened meanwhile, I had recently happened. Then we realized we. To done we over indexed on the happy stuff about being diverse and not really talked about racist, so we actually went out and looks about like a kid's book about carried topic like a look like for little kids. Little embodied of Martin Luther King Junior. Yes, it is dipped some of the explicit parts, but it is a way for your kids to hear the words, Harriet, Tubman Marley junior before the. Tells it to, and you don't know how that teachers are to do it I'm not no shade on teachers, but they have a lot to do. They don't always have information. They need about every culture inside. What was the incident that happened that that spurred you spurred this on. On my birthday, which liar? It's remember members so well me. I got thrown out of I got told to leave a cafe because they thought I was bothering my wife and her friends again. My wife is white. She was an more. They sitting at an outside table at this place called the Cafe in Berkeley in Berkeley. California, Oh, my Gosh, and I walked in the one call had come by and say hello and I'm really. Bonvin historic I went by. I was carrying a book by Selena. How that I just bought about the loving couple who who made interracial marriage legal across all America I just bought it for my family field like woke. Parent feel not good. I was show by wife's friends and some. Were from the cafe knocked on the inside and was. Presumably the literal Bum's rush. That is wow. That's I'm sorry they haven't. Portion, but it's like the thing that I knew at the time. I couldn't complain too much about it because it was run time of Ferguson. Energy needed to be around Ferguson and Michael Brown they didn't need to be a rally being like. That coffee shop anymore. We add. You're in Berkeley and we actually turned into a town hall meeting, but this is what I'm talking about. The cafe owner said we're going to do things to change not coffee shot, but the whole neighborhood and talk about implicit bias. You put up a website and they did nothing. All that on it was coming soon. And for years he nothing until those two black guys got arrested that starbucks Adelphia. I wrote about my Internet, and then he did the. Deal. Of closing the copy shop and selling it to the manager of the copy shops and disagreeing. White folks all the talk. We've heard the talk before. We heard our green mile or greed when you saw green book I, Get I get that We are continuing our conversation with Porsche Williams and W Kamau bell from United Shades of America which premieres later this month on CNN. Well. There's been an incredible surge of activism and a ton of news and social media coverage, but that being said people have a lot of time on their hands right down so after the threat of Covid is behind us, and people return to their normal lives again. What do you think white people specifically need to be doing in their personal lives when the world isn't watching to maintain their activism? This is the thing you one hundred percent half to do white folks who want to feel like you're still doing the work. You have to show your work. Eight. You say I'm going to watch able. Do Release Thirteen. The you need to go back on social media and report on what she thought about avenue grenades thirteen. If you say it's the same thing, wouldn't show their receipts for go, find me. You need to show receipt. You need to show work. If you say you're going to read Michelle Alexander's book about the News Empire thing, you need to start a book club with other white people, and then all those people need to put up videos on social media, showing their work, and or you need to get back to normal talk about that. In your social circle and around your works. It's not just about voting. It's about actually this again. Talked about my free shots, we. She believes white people need to show their work because that's the problem, you say you're going to do this stuff. We don't mark with APP right. Yes, so you want to jump in? Yes, now he's absolutely correct. The follow up is what really matters than it matters for white people in an also stands for black people in our movement. You know, don't just go black or just go silent after this key. Continue to make that be her again and the conversation. Just like what we're having right now. That is going to help. Inspire someone else to get up and do something different and again I can't stand enough. Amplify the voices. Everybody's on social media and we have a lot a white. or any race of influences online, and believe it or not, just you Palestinian about a black business or just a black person that you admire poet writer wherever? It means a lot. It travels you know, and it will also add to your content I think a lot of people on social media don't WanNa Post. The batter stay too much that they don't WanNa. Offend anybody. Listen if you lose twelve thirteen. Whatever thought mean whatever it doesn't even matter because it will actually enriched your content, you'll be amazed how many people? Are saying that people appreciate the diversity. They're adding to their page, so just amplify voices continuously. What are the things that frustrate you both about? White people maybe not getting the black experience. Are there things that have recurred for you over the years that you're like man, this is. Like again and again and again come out. You're shaking your head. What what what comes to mind? Let's be clear these the needs. I'm married and white I. See so. You have a lot of with various levels of getting it. I think that they stand is that. You have to. If you care about white will be near light. which is the first thing if you don't care about the? Then you just like. Let let him go or just avoid them at work but if you care, you have to be patient about bringing them along slow. So my white mother-in-law went to being like you know a person voted the same way I do. Generally you know not like I'm not any her. Some sort of confederate flag waver, but not the racism to understanding that her granddaughter. was I didn't identify black. Because 'cause I bob. Because I'm black and she went from not we engage the politics to hearing all this conversation to sewing pussy hats right after trump was elected and. The conversations that she had around we also, my wife Melissa had with her about all this stuff. The unfortunate part is yet to bring white and belong slowly, which is why we need other white people. The health were already wrote, but we also have to be clear about the white people. We can let go, because we can't take all you. White people on as Inter. Right. I if I can. Baseball at this say is that there are certain narratives that are coming out right now. I just don't like I don't like that it. Even being thought that black people don't want to educate of white person on how to treat US better. That's all we've all been trying to do every. Time. We've been trying to get used screaming at cry rioted well. We've been trying to get you to hear a so I'll have. In America. Does not have a problem with a white person who wants to reach out and get help so I don't like the Narrative Day. It's irritating because it's not asked US I rather. You want to treat me better than bad. Right. But I was wondering if there is something that does bug you about something that white people just consistently don't get or haven't gotten in the past. Well, I, you know I think that. Yes, is the ignorance you know in just cut continuing to say I don't know I. Don't know because they're the wealth of information out there I mean I'm sure if you. You can't ask a black person then there is some online, but I. You know if you're speaking about people who really want to know like. It doesn't bug me I. Really don't have an issue with taken it upon myself, and that's kind of what I'm doing right now I. Mean I guess you can say that? It's my job at this point, but. It doesn't bother me to help anybody understanding. Komo what do you think we'll be? The direct results of these ongoing protests in terms of both institutional changes as well as how people in the country are reacting to and addressing racial injustices moving forward. I mean it all depends. WHAT OUR STOMACH! We with the stomach into the country for really profound structural change because while Porsche talking about reform, the kind of reforms she's talking about is about like basically completely overhauling, we do police in America, and that means a lot of those cops, maybe Muslims cops fire, and we get New People in there, so I think the idea is that because for me a cop who's doing the dirt is bad cop. Standing next to him is also completed. and. Good cops who don't feel like they can call up the backups. They need to be gone to so I and we're also talking about with clear. This is about this is about schools. This is about a mass incarceration. It is a is about the fact that black neighborhoods have the same level of garbage pick-up white neighborhoods. It's about all opera board, so it's about do we have the appetite for that is the question and if we don't know what happened, but I think if we don't have it in this moment this American. Experiment is about to be over the time of America. The superpower or the policeman of the world, or whatever the thing we like to the world's is country that Mrs about the end the same way ended with Alexander, the great same way ending with Rome the same way ended with the Soviet Union powerhouse. We're about to end, and we're going to look up one day and be like. Oh, it's not s anymore. That's injure of we don't have the. We don't take me for saying. Welcome back to watch. What happens live at home from the Hamptons? We are continuing our conversation with Porsche and come out Porsche I talked to come out about this a little bit. But how do you plan to talk to pj about the world that she's coming into? You know your. You grew up in a family of civil rights activists. What will you tell? What were you told in? What will you tell pj? Honestly if you would've asked me this. If you acting this a little while ago, I probably would have said I don't know But I'm telling you that there is something that has awoken in need to be active and to show my receives as Kamal was. Say of what I'm actually doing and I think the conversation that are have with her is just that look. What mom has done little. Mom went through. Look what? Look what I did for the movement and bit, and this is why because we were treated this way these things were. We have been oppressed this much time and I. Say I will do it that way because that's the way the other civil rights would want us to do. They would not have wanted their work to be in vain and am a lot of people. Come to me now I, said your grandfather be so proud of you. What do you think he would say and I think he was say. Use My life as an example use my mission used everything use the US our failures all of that in order to move forward and understand how you can elevate it to the next level, and that's just how you explain because let them by the time he gets the be my age. There will probably still be some racism, but she will know how to deal with in a different way and hopefully. Invoke change in her world at the time she won't be. She won't be naive and not know she'll know from my example, and that's what everybody can be white people. You can be an example for your kids. What do you think your grandfather would say about the world today? I can't necessarily say he will be shocked because even after his movement even after he marched at an older age, trying to steal heat, civil rights fighting alive it, we still we still receiving raised. Did the Mike this has been happening. He would not be shop. He would just want to make sure that we were being active in. We were doing our part. By the way, what do you think your grandfather would think of you on the real size of Atlanta? Oh, he would love it. He went literally. Nobody knows this I've never had the chance to to say this I'm. Nobody's ever asked, but he's the call me his peach, so it's just crazy. I'm like you know holding piece on housewives, but you know my grandfather in the movement. He was called the Bull in China Cabinet. He was the the the lieutenant, and he was the one who were rally. Everybody together and you know, get everybody enraged and passionate about the cost though meeting how I am is exactly how he was, he was just as outspoken and passionate as me. Well I mean. This is a man who led the march from. Selma so all these years later to look and see what you're doing and the how amplified. Your Voice is based on your platform. I've got to assume that he would be very proud of you. And speaking of. You know that March on Edmund pettus bridge. It was the very thing that shocked. America into action around that time. Because everybody had to television in everybody started to watch it in around mealtime, and then they latch dreams, all of the a migrant father and the whole movement livestream them saying them getting be getting killed industries them up a couple of down. Dogs like the brutality that the police put on those innocent. Non Violent. Protesters shocked White America into interchange, and that is similar to the shock that everybody felt when they watch that video of George. Lord life he like Kamal, said in the comfortable home not have been thinking about it. We're all trying to stay home and protect our family on TV commercials. We are one. You're really forgetting about the racism. You really forgetting about what we're really still living it because we're all saying. We're all fighting corona together. We're finding pandemic together and then Bam writing your face. You see the reality that black people are living in yet again and I think that that just added to the level of south and put people off. The same way did back then. Then and they ended up being able to vote after that so I'm hoping that that shot can continue I really do hope end the conversation Don. Stop and I really hope that anybody has to die, but I will say this people are watching the TV now, and they're saying police still be brutal to innocent protesters, so it's almost like what they're doing is working against them. You know the president telling the mayor to not be weak and go hard on these protest thirds etcetera It's actually working against him because it's creating more footage of police police brutality. What we're fighting again and I say it's on white people as well because a lot of them are in the line. Wall. The other moment I would like to point out at. Three kids like I said one is nine. The other five three daughters will make girls. That I've talked to my talk right nine year old and five year old about that video. They've seen enough to understand what's happening there and we've had to explain to them why we think he's calling out for his dead Ma. An. but she's dead. Why would he proud and my nine year old said maybe he sees her. Well. It might nine. Assisted and this and be an understand what's wrong and then go outside on our sidewalk in front of our house. Right? Black lives matter in blue chalk. Our neighbors can all see it a nine year old. She's got pretty awesome parents. I'm not saying that's not part of it. But it. If a nine year old can get it, and by the way black nine year old tactic it. They don't have a choice. A grownup white folks of privilege can get. Hey. It's Andy wrapping up our conversation with Porsche and come out her show. Have you been? Have, you been in a tax chain or in a chat with your fellow Atlanta? Housewives through all this and what's been the discussion? Yeah, I am a TEX chain with Niimi Tanya Marlow in. We've been talking about this since the beginning. And recently we ended up reaching out to some of the other girls and we're trying to come together to make something happen. We have something that we're working on. That will be. Putting out a little bit soon, but it you know we definitely have to talk amongst ourselves than realize it, it's it's definitely something that affects all of us as black women and I mainly in in meany in all of us in in Tanzania model. We definitely feel in I'm sure candy will? Feel we have to whatever we do with it that heated reunion aside because it's not about that it's about it's about US using our platform. You know and not feeling ashamed. Use Our platform because a lot of people would be like Oh there. You know they're cloud chasing this. Those are just again. Thanks to try to shame people into not speaking out but I think that we will be doing being a ingest. Are People not to band together and speak out and use our voices for what's going on? I think that's great, but by the way, what was your reaction to the reunion? For You were you were funniest Hal I gotTa tell you. I was shocked like not listen y'all had me at home right? Listen them all at home. Right hand, my own alcohol, which is my my choice? You know Hennessy now. HOUSE LOUNGE WANNA change talking to any all these girls. Of course. I'm going to act up. You know what I mean like. It was the perfect storm so I mean. It was great I thought everybody showed up in show out. Did you. Come up with those your titties or social distancing line. You just came up with that at that moment because if you did I, mean come out. You need a writer. Porsche! Passed one. I actually came up with that in that moment it as a matter of fact, it's funny because dentist was like you don't want to like you know. Come up with something to say and I'm like I. Don't do that like i. said something to me. My brain is so quick because of being on dish nation beyond with the radio. People are very quick with it. You know and Ricky is well being on that with him. He's a comedian rickey. Smiley, so I think I got some of that from him, and when I saw those cities, I was like yeah. Those things are definitely not quarantine together. Oh my God I can't. Do. Come out. all right. I think that's a great place to leave I. Thank you both for this conversation. This is been absolutely. Enlightening to me, and and inspiring and I love I, love speaking to you. Thank you so much for doing this. We'll see you next time. We are continuing our conversation with Porsche Williams and W. Kamau bell from United Shades of America which premieres later this month on CNN. Come out. You posted a photo of a piece of sidewalk chalk art that your nine year old daughter dead. Tell me about that. You know we were having conversations in one of the. One of the first week of March, we saved him for she wrote she wrote the phrase black lives matter which he didn't even know what the letters were. She was just copying, so she's been always talking about black lives. Matter with us. We've always talked about and you were in the car talking about people, not saying white people, not saying black lives matter and what that meant and we got home, and she just ran and got the sidewalk, and the thing is clear about it. She wrote. I'm black. My data's black. My Grandmother's black. My grandfather's black I'm black black lives matter and she has her accepting her lack as even the her mom is white moths on. Cheese. Yeah I an. Wasn't assignment I love you. Go? It was something that came out of her. which is the most Har-? That and I love that Yeah I love that because you know a lot of time, the innocence of children is the truth of Israeli are true as adults. Honestly you know that's been a whole bang of why it's like you know sometimes me and my friends were out and we want to say something in. It's like someone say black. You have to stay a real low and it's out of. Of this for us to show that we're standing up for black people were against white people, and that's not the case. And his daughter gets that at such a young age that she's not spending her mom by owning her blatantness in exempting its that's beautiful that she can be black and proud and understand that it doesn't take away from her love for any other race. That's amazing. I guess I guess I might know the answer to this, but. Anyone havoc on that about how the administration has been responding to this whole. Business every activist organizer Re Black Guy Now in Oakland and Berkeley knew this was coming. Dominated, know about Kobe nineteen, but the minute he became president. Everybody was like. Get Ready. So anyone who surprised by this? It shouldn't. You shouldn't be like Oh nobody's oncoming. Listing again to the Black Ugo around you, are you? Are you thought well I'll be fine. I think that's also the business like week, but everybody. I knew this was coming it just the order of events is is different. You're a comedian. Is there anything? Anything that you've taken out of what's going on today. That's made you laugh I mean. The kind of laughter, the Blackhawks Dude and prince. People do is always the middle about. Or, start in horrible situations, so we find laughter by quickly, and when I saw trump hauled up that Bible like he'd never I was. That made me laugh as formal drink were that there was something that was so funny about. Holding Bible. When you look at the future. You both have young children when you look at the future. What does the future like for you Porsche? Honestly that that makes thinking about the future for my daughter in this moment it all. It makes me emotional because you know this is not the world I want her to grow up in. You know I don't ever want to imagine she would have to deal with Being in the home with her with her boyfriend, her fiance, etcetera and police, coming in lighting the home up in. Did them trying to possibly charge? Her boyfriend is same way as Brianna. Taylor I wouldn't want her to grow up at user boys as activists and try to empower her people about our rights in in light US Sandwich Sandra Blanche and her be killed in the care police. You know it's just like I I really truly. Fighting this fight for my daughter's future and the the people in my family that young people in my family. This is not what we want to give their. This was given to us. This was given to West is. Not by our black people, but by the oppressors, so if we can all come together now has ably. She can live in. Have a better life than what we're dealing with now. Canal same question for you. You! Know I think. It's a big question because I've had. This is the first of all like I hadn't thought of like wait. We don't have to live in America. There? There's racism all over the world in no countries free of institutionalized oppression, structural oppression, but other countries do it differently. We don't have to stay here. I think again America. We're so egocentric that we get caught up in like American being the best like I said I think this is. America's extreme might be a rap shortly and we don't have to be. Your falls down around our ears. That's a sad thought. That is I'm not. You know I I love America I wouldn't be doing this work if I did. Like when I think about my kids, I don't want my love or Ego centeredness thing about this country of still their life in that way saying where you're talking about your. The first time I remember really had that. We. I'm going to hope that porsches. View pushes more optimistic. View takes hold. I! Mr Graham, we'd be doing the work in I. Keeps me going I. It's just also I wanna see the work so I asked you know. I'm a comedian. I am. 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"Listening to the Story Whispers" from Martin & Sylvia: More Adventures

Sparkle Stories Podcast

25:36 min | Last month

"Listening to the Story Whispers" from Martin & Sylvia: More Adventures

"Hello this is David of sparkle stories and welcome to the podcast. This week's story is in celebration of telling our own stories. Comes from our popular Martin and Sylvia Collection and the story is called listening to the story whispers. At sparkle stories, we have lots and lots and lots of stories for you to listen to. and. For the last few years I have been teaching both grown ups and children, how to tell their stories and you can find those opportunities at story steps education on the teachable platform as well as through out the sparkle stories blog. We believe in stories and in particular we believe in your story and we hope you tell it. Enjoy. and. Listening, to the story whispers. Martin and Sylvia live in a tall house with lots of windows. From their second story loft bedroom, they can see their entire back yard with the Tall Maple and oak trees to one side and the horse fence that borders the browns farm to the other. Brother and sister also see the mountains in the distance as well as the tip of the town halls steeple in their downtown. Downtown is a very special place for Martin and Sylvia. As many of their favorite things are there. There's Mama's office and Daddy's studio. There's the bakery in the Webber's restaurant and the Central, green where the many seasonal festivals are held. Brother and sisters favorite downtown spot however. Is the town library. They go to the library at least once a week and sometimes two times. To collect books to read at home as well as to find out about things that interest them. Once when Martin wanted to build a real IGLOO, he found a book about houses and forts from around the world. When Silvio wanted to know how to make butter mints like the kind, her grandma's general store. She found a book with recipes and pictures. The library also has special events and project days where children gather and make birdhouses or Valentine's cards or listen to a traveling musician or meet with someone who takes care of injured birds. There is always something interesting to do with the library. It is summertime where Martin and Sylvia leave. And summer is often filled with new experiences and possibilities. Their family likes to travel during the summer sometimes to the beach sometimes to visit their grandparents. Brother and sister also attend different camps like. Theater camp or animal camp or dance camp. In between trips and camps, they can always look forward to the weekly events at the library. This summer Martin and Sylvia's family was particularly interested in visiting storyteller that was coming to the library. Her name is Porsche Togoland said Mama on the way to the library that morning. Isn't that a beautiful name? What stories does she tell asked Sylvia. I'm not sure she's from the Netherlands so she will probably tell some Dutch stories. She's from never land asked Sylvia Hey. That's where Peter Pans from right asked Martin. The Netherlands said. It does sound like Neverland though doesn't it? No, it is a country in Europe It's also called Holland. Oh. What is Dutch asked? Martin. People from the Netherlands or Holland are called Dutch people and their stories are Dutch. Brother and sister were quiet and a little bit confused. Will shouldn't it be called? Dutch. Land then asked Martin. Well, that's a different country said Mama with a smile. But that would make sense. I. Love How you notice things like that. But will I be able to understand the stories or will they be in a different language asked Sylvia. They'll be English said Mama and she is not only going to tell some stories but she's going to teach you how to tell stories to I love telling stories said Sylvia with light and I'm really really really good at it. Do you think I can tell a Babbitt story? Babbitt was Sylvia's stuffed rabbit and she often told the stuffed rabbit stories about himself. I love to tell Babbitt stories, and maybe this one can be about how he gets lost in a boat and he finds a treasure island. Oh your Babbitt stories are wonderful said Mama but we'll see how she's going to set it up. She will probably have a lot to teach you about storytelling. I think she will really like to hear a Babbitt story said Sylvia as she imagined the storyteller listening to her. I'll tell her a good one. And then for the rest of the car trip into town, Sylvia thought about a story she could tell. When they arrived, they saw a number of friends entering the library, including Sasha and Jonathan. We have one of her CDs said, Sasha? She's really good. I'm going to tell her Babbitt story said Sylvia Momma said that we're going to tell stories to I might tell her about Babbitt flying in air balloon. We'll see what the storyteller has planned said Mama as she led them inside. When they entered the children's section, there were many children as well as adults sitting on the floor and on benches along the outside. Brother and sister found a spot along the side and looked at the storyteller who was standing next to Charlotte the librarian. The woman was tall and thin had frosty blonde hair and a sparkly smile. She. Stood still with her hands folded in front of her and watched the children as they entered and sat down. Martin looked around the room and saw children that he knew and some children that he did not know. SUV continued to look at the storyteller and thought about her bad story. She was imagining a story about Babbitt lost in the jungle with his friend, the parrot. And then instead of introducing the Storyteller Charlotte, the head librarian sat down and then the tall Dutchwoman began to speak. Once, upon a time long time ago, many people came together to build a boat. Every one in the library was silent. They all leaned forward a little and looked at the storyteller with a Distant look in their eyes because they were all imagining the people holding tools and carrying would. It was a beautiful boat. Nearly three stories tall with several decks and many rooms inside. The deem of carpenters used hard oaken would for the Keel in the hull and large for the planking. The storyteller continued to tell a story about the boat and how the people building it wished to sail to their new home. The storyteller talked about how proud the people were when they finished but Then, they realized that they did not know where to take the boat where to sale where their new home would be. They chose a captain to sail the ship. And then the storyteller changed her voice just a little to tell his part. I will command this ship and everyone else will have their occupation but only one person will tell us which way to go. I need a person who knows how to listen. Who knows how to pay attention? This is why Sophia? Will be our navigator. Now Continued the storyteller this was shocking to the people because Sophia? The one, the captain wished to navigate the boat. was only a seven year old girl. The children in the library loved this and they all smiled giggled to each other. The storyteller then continued and told how Sophia told them, which way to go by listening to the wind and watching the waves. She smelled the air and noticed how the birds were flying overhead and then. She told how Sophia led them to land. As, they got closer. They marveled at the Purple Hills and Bushy Green. Coastline. It was beautiful. Our new home shouted Burgum the weaver. Our new home shouted the rest. And all faced Sophia. The seven year old girl who led them home By. The simple practice. Of Listening. The storyteller then smiled and nodded her head slightly to show everyone that she was finished. The room began to bubble with applause appreciation, and then Charlotte the librarian stood and said, well, thank you so much to Porsche Chateauvallon for that story. I'm not familiar with that one is that on one of your CD's? No it isn't said Porsche with a smile because it came from this moment with you all. You just made that story up asked Charlotte in amazement well. I had all of you helping as you were coming in I heard one of you talking about a boat you took yesterday, and then I saw the picture on that book over there you see the girl with the sailor's hat. And I think one of you is named Sophia is that correct? I thought I heard that named spoken Sylvia's friend Sophia raised her hand and Porsche the storyteller nodded to her. You see all the stories are hiding round us all the time we just need to invite them out into the open. and. We do that by listening first listening to the story whispers. And only then do we begin to speak. Charlotte. Then added. And if you would like to stay a little longer, our storyteller is going to give a little workshop for the children on how they can tell stories to. We will take a little break and then those who want to stake and gather back here. I'm stay said Sylvia proudly to Sasha in Jonathan, and I'm going to tell a Babbitt story about when he went on a boat and sailed far far away by accident. It's a really good story. Oh said Jonathan with a smile I'm staying too. Many people left the room and then a smaller group gathered on the floor next to a wooden chair where the storyteller was going to sit. They all sat in a circle and the storyteller approached and pulled the chair out of the way. I need to be were all of you are she said And then she sat down on the ground. The children giggled a little. And then looked up at her. Sylvia than asked. Are we going to tell stories to. Porsche the storyteller nodded her head happily. because. I have a really good story that I could tell you said Sylvia with pride. I believe it said Porsche I believe that you have many stories to tell. And we are very glad you are here to be a part of our storytelling group. Then, Porsche looked at all the other children. And this group has a story to tell as well and our job is to find it. I think the best way to start is by. Listening. Let's all close our eyes and listen for a moment. Porsche and the children closed there is. I wonder if you can count to yourself how many different sounds you can hear. Many of the children's started using their fingers as they heard all the different sounds. After a few moments Porsche said, you can open your eyes and I'd like to go around the circle and hear your name first and then one of the things that you heard. I'm Derek and I heard the grownups talking said the boy to her left. Hind Sam and I heard that someone was sniffling said girl next to him. I heard a car outside said the next girl Oh, I'm Katie. I'm Charlie and I heard a bird call I think it was a grow said the boy next to her. A few more children offered sounds, and then it was Sylvia's turn. I'm Sylvia and. I heard all of those things she said. Did you hear any other sounds asked Porsche No just those things said Sylvia. And then the child next to Sylvia said. I'm Parson and I heard a piece of paper getting scrunched. And then Martin said I heard the buzzing of that light. A few other children had other sounds and then porsche leaned back and smiled. Well she said happily we are listening. You each heard so much. And when we listen very closely, we can hear the story. We can hear story whispers. Then Porsche leaned back in and said. All right. Then what we will do next is to tell the story one of you will start and the rest of you will listen very carefully to the story that has begun. And then when it is your turn, you will tell the next heart but remember we are telling it together. So, listen closely children listen for the whispers of our group story. Sylvia then held her hand high and asked, may I start I have a good story. Sylvia. I can tell that you do said Porsche and you found that story all on your own. So you get to tell it all by yourself maybe later after our time here together, you can tell me your story which you do that. Sylvia. Knotted her head Oh good said Porsche sell I think for this story I will actually be the one who starts I am going to listen and when I hear some special whisper, a special story whispered just for us. I don't know a a bird call someone's voice. I am going to use that as the beginning of our story. And then. I will look over it to Derek and you will tell the next part of the story. And Eric do you know how you will know which part of the story to tell? Derek shook his head. No. By listening to what I say. And Sam will listen to what you say and Katie will listen to what Sam said until we go all the way around the circle. We will tell a story. By listening. Listening I. Okay. The children nodded their heads and looked closely at Porsche. Well then let's begin. Then, she closed her eyes. And took a breath. The children also closed their eyes and took a breath. For a moment, it was very quiet. And then lots of little sounds could be heard. Among the natural sounds the room sounds the car sounds and the chatting sounds one voice suddenly became a little bit louder. It was one of the mothers in the other room she was in a conversation. No one could hear what was said before it, but they could all hear her say he s he loves that hat. And then right after that. Porsche began her story. Once was a man who worked as a hat maker to the king. He lived just out side the king's palace and his quarters were attached to his hat making shop. Porsche then looked at Derek. WHO's is widely ND and he said The hat makers name was. Donald. Then he was old. Derek breathed out and then looked at Sam who frowned for a moment and then started talking. Donald was so old that he had a hard time making hats his. Fingers wouldn't. Work. Like they did when he was young man and the king wanted the grandest hat of them all. Everyone was excited about what Sam offered and she looked at Katie whose expression seemed a little worried. She was quiet for a while and then Porsche said. Now. Katie. You heard something that Sam said that interested you what was it? said Katie. The hat. The grandest hat. That part interested me to said Porsche I wonder what you could say about that hat or why the king wanted it. He. Wanted A. Said Katie. Hesitantly. But 'cause. A different king was going to visit and he wanted to look special. He yes. No wonder. He wants such a great hat said Porsche clearly having a good time. The story continued on until it reached Sylvia, who smiled and said. and. Then there was a big rabbit at the door named Babbitt who wanted to go on an adventure. Porsche smiled at Sylvia and softly said. Sylvia. I wonder. Is Babbitt part of the story you wanted to share earlier. Sylvia nodded her head enthusiastically. Then we must let Babbitt return to that story where he truly wishes to be said Porsche and I want you to tell me something that James said that interested you. Something that he said. Asked Sylvia, pointing to the boy who sat next to her yes. James just told a part of the story and I wonder what part interested you. James, would you mind repeating you're part of the story? Okay said James quietly there was a hat fairy that lived in this felt box and every night he came to help the old man make hats. Sylvia looked at James An. frowned. And then she cocked her head a little and said. I like the part about the hat fairy in the felt box. said Porsche. and. What can you tell us about the hat ferry? The. Fairy a said self with something of a smile. Lives in the fell box and he has a lot of friends and they're all really good at making special things. They get feathers from bird fairies and beautiful crystals from the GNOMES and flowers from the peak season little sparkly from the fire fairies and they know how to turn all of it into a hat. Sylvia then looked at Porsche who gave her a smile that was at once proud excited and very sweet. Sylvia smiled back and then looked to the boy named Parson to continue. The story unfolded. And Sylvia now paid very close attention. She listened to every word with particular interests like the story was a wild thing that needed to be watched. The story went around the circle twice Senate got more and more beautiful, dazzling, and exciting. And when it ended. When the king was presented with the most extraordinary hat that was ever seen. All the children's side together. That was a good story said, Sylvia. I agree said Porsche. And do you know where that story came from Sylvia? From. Listening asked Sylvia with. Wide Eyes. Yes. To, the story whispers. Story whispers that we all heard. Together. And then the children all sat with those words and the images of the story for a moment. Appreciating the magic that can happen with. Stories and friends. And listening. This has been an original story by sparkle stories of sparkle stories, DOT COM Copyright two, thousand, thirteen, all rights reserved. We hope you enjoyed it.

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Tank Slappers and Tire Gauges

CarCast

52:46 min | 2 years ago

Tank Slappers and Tire Gauges

"You're listening to Castrol car cast on podcast. One. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent hailstorm here to describe the event of a ball bro. I was just hanging on the roof. When this gnarly storm starts dropping baseball sized hail. The shingles got beat up a few windows broken. Savage. Did you do anything to help, bro? I was in survival mode. Your football can't help you in a hailstorm, but the gyco insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage, call gyco to see how a Ford -able homeowners insurance can be. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on a choice, but to get on mandate, get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for sharing what car. Chasm Samantha, Monterey to Andrey over there. It's going on man. How are you? I saw your nine eleven tub over there. The outy getting worked on and the big. Table the big frame table. Yeah, getting prepared for it. Yeah. Exciting. We're building the Apple computer. Nine eleven are sorry. Nine thirty five k. three car and. It's exciting. I don't know that it's exciting to parts of the population, but to this part of the population, it's exciting. I think you put up a picture and I just did just now I just photo this is going to become this. Here's the tub with a little magic and maybe three years. It's money. Yeah, I'll tell you apple and money. I'll tell you tell you how it works. That's an interesting point. Maybe they could. The price. In the Microsoft car, the net flicks car. The process of finding an old tub on the internet and then turning it into eventually the shiny new, not in bolt recreation that goes one hundred and eighty miles an hour. That's a process. You should wish all of your kids partaken and it's something that we're like flushing out of our society, but it is important. The beginning middle in and the part where you have an idea, then you go find, you know, just a rusted hulk of a tub and it some point you're putting the finishing touches on that thing. What that does for the psyche in the character of the person that's doing it and all those who are involved. The process is more valuable than any class you could ever take it school for hundred year. Yeah. Yeah. This take about as long as getting a college degree. Anyway, I. Hey school. I don't know. I think we can do this quicker than you think. Yeah, I don't know why I was talking about how I say like is there was a handful of other projects going on and share is always kind of jumping back and forth and Mustang that won't leave my shop. That's still there. The the, we're talking about a nine thirty five motor in like what that really is or what that really entails. And Sean said, you get a nine, nine, three bottom end. I guess that's the last of air cooled the first. Yeah, it's air cooled, right? But the nine, nine threes at a turbo. We gotta look at it. It doesn't have to be terrible, but it could be a turban. I think you get a nine nine three bottom end and which is I think a three point six. And then you just start bolting on the horseshoe and the fan and all the stuff. And one hundred grand later. You got an engine in that's based now that she said that I was gonna say eighteen five. And even if he calls listening. So we will, yeah. What are we start with that? We try sourcing some parts doing to me bay listings, make some calls and but probably do some research on it like you're saying is it sounds like that's what Shawn's been doing. Trying to figure out what components would be involved. Well, I think if you get a nine, nine, three, turbo bottom end, you will have good compression, not high compression good compression for turbo charging, and you'll probably have a pretty bulletproof crank rods, bearings pistons. So you wouldn't. You're not thinking about just getting a block of sorts and, and having even that part built having the crank and pistons and everything I called fresh new. I cannot tell you all of everything. I imagine if you found like a decent short Blac if. Well, then you can just bolt on to it. I imagine if you found a low mileage Porsche, nine, nine, three, turbo short block that was in good shape that that car that left the factory with four hundred fifty or five hundred horsepower. Whatever was that that lower end providing provided had low miles was in good shape. Yeah, was probably good to strap on the turbos and the extra stuff up tire I would imagine or you make sense. I don't know about those portion Motors to to say, but I it certainly that thirty would should hold water for any engine for the most part, right? Like if you get a pretty stout short Blac even factory one that's done that we can both on the proper components around it, whatever have people get, you know, mid nineties Supra 's and they strap on. On a big bigger, turbo waste gate Bubba blonde, the post and do bunch of headwork and they get those things that I know they can get them to over horse property. They'll get the thing to like eight hundred horsepower. Yeah. And then you'll go what you do the lower end and they'll go, no, the lower end handle it. Yeah, right. Yeah, I guess two point everything. Well, right. Yeah. Well, I'm saying if the car runs leaves the factory five hundred horsepower it'll probably hand you could probably strap on six fifty. I I'll put it to you this way. Plenty of guys probably got a nine, nine, three. Turbo Porsche. Yeah. Took it to dine in or not dining or whoever. I don't know, maybe dying. I rent something tack, whatever and they went put on bigger turbos, put on a bigger inner cooler, turn up. The put on a new mapping system, put up bigger actors, and then the guy was bragging Carson coffee that he just bolted on another one hundred fifty horsepower. Yeah. Yeah, those cars I don't know those turbos back in the day. What are we talking like? Ninety three ish nineteen Ninety-three issues. Probably four hundred horsepower. There's probably no reason why people weren't running around with five hundred. I think people are getting into those cars without cracking the case on the on the bottom end. I think they were. I think there were bolting on one hundred and fifty, two hundred horsepower those cars. I'm sure there's been enough work done on that. Several people know informs no and Porsche fans know what you can do to it. And if there are any like little limitations like you gotta do something with the oil ING system where you gotta change, you know, taking the Mustang world like you gotta change the oil pump gear to a billet gear because that's the weak point. But something like that. That's probably not a huge issue hoping and then it it gets you there in, right. All right. So we'll keep you posted on the nine, three, five build, but excite. Yeah, and we haven't done one of those right now. We're just sort of coming up with ideas and talking aloud. So that's what's going to make it fun. It's like you're gonna have to dig in and do some of the research. And as thing comes along, it'll it'll be. It'll be cool. It'll be very cool to to see it sorta come together. You was a real seventy nine, right, right. Yeah, you guys may want to watch checkout. Anna Kurla goes racing, I think goal. Berg's hitting the hay bales is up there as we speak and go to Motor Trend dot com slash Adam new Vits and also vailable. And if more videos at Vera's fee are download the app, their iphone, Android, Goldberg part. One is up now and then partout is next week, and you'll get the conclusion. I went to bed with a bad taste in my mouth because every once a month. I go to Netflix and I'm like, give me a car show I can watch. And this one is like barn fine restores. And it's like old dude talks to other old dude about dodge charger that's rusting out in the back of his gas station. And then there's a lot of like, what's this guidance? Got a three eighty three how much you want for four thousand dollars. You gotta do better than that. I don't know. Is this what we're looking for? Yeah, just fucking old guys. Looking at old cars doing nothing or somebody wanna fuck and go to Goodwood Ren sport or somewhere. See something I every time. So every time I'll see the show, it'll be a title. The title be little tantalizing go, oh yeah. Let me check out this new show and fucking always sucks. Yeah, it's kind of rhyme or something. Oh, there's some other when we talk. About on shift, sincere Russ to riches or something, and you watch it and you're like, oh, this isn't even a shop. This was like a reality show casting call and they've got the girl who's like, I'm the motor expert and she looks at the motor. And what do you think she goes? Well, there's a lot of rest. What do we do now? Probably just get a new motor. Exactly what I would down. Pat is grand tour coming back on one Amazon. Oh, sorry, this wasn't Netflix. This was Amazon doubt on Netflix. Netflix doesn't have anything good either now. All right. Let me Motor Trend then quickly. Watch Motor Trend watch, oh, car cast brought to you by bar for better engine performance horsepower fuel economy, lower under hood temperatures. I've are as an ultra thin coating that reduces rating heap by ninety percent, but cyber on take heat off, visit Zych haute dot com. That's z. y. Xilai coat dot com. Yes, season three has been renewed. Jamie, Clarkson tweeted about it, but no release date. He posted a picture, they're filming or something because he posted like a Nissan GTRI the camera on the back. Now, this. Even it's a season three filming underway. Oh yeah. And this is it's just a picture of a truck and snow, but I- Cornyn digital spies. He's three is happening good because I can't take another one of these old FOX standing in a barn. I, it has nothing to do with anyone that likes cars. What is this thing called on Amazon as a barn rescue something I watched about. Terrible car show on Amazon fucking fuck, and Hewlett Hauser wander round and look at shit that you would have no interest in. And I've pitched all of these assholes ongoing racing with Adam Corolla and none of them want to do. It drives me insane. It drives me match paddle. What's wrong with the fucking world I AM's on pitching. I'm we're going international racing with some of the greatest cars in the world, and they're like, we'd rather have old fucks staying in a barn. Yeah. Oh, jeez. Hunter, yes. And all those shows I'd rather watch the show where they find Barnes. I really would. Let's just do this show called barn finder. I just drive around and point at barn or maybe maybe that will work. I don't know. I guess the guys who green light this shit don't know shit about cars now, but this the cars at some of the worst. Some of the worst, their cars, you have no interest in right at all. Ever the building of the nine thirty five, Porsche, apple cars, infinitely more fascinating than any of these pieces and these old guys. The show that I watched, I took a smart car and they lifted it with off road tires. Why? I have no idea. There's no reason for nobody's ever gonna do that. Nobody cares what you're not gonna draw Lynette into watching your shitty car show and you're not going to draw me in because I know something about cars and you have shitty car show. So who you catering to who's your audience. People have suffered head trauma, who's your audience? Nobody gives a fuck about your shitty car shows. Also shitty. Everyone just arguing in a barn when in know when it's going to be done, we're gonna put a lift kit. We're gonna lower it. I watching this episode. It's the least interesting man in the world meets this second lease. Interesting man in the world, and then they go back and look at a fucking car that you remember from your childhood except for this one covered in rust, and it's where four thousand dollars and you don't give a fuck. Yeah, that's that's the premise of the show. Yeah. Or you can go to could would and watch Nick Mason's Ferrari dice it up. Why would you wanna watch us seventy million dollar car in England when you can go to Indiana and watch to super-poor and dudes with graybeards talk about a four thousand dollar car, right? The state of carshow sickened me, they they just sick and me, but it's gotta be all the people creating them because they, there cannot be any car guys in what are we missing? I don't get it. What are we missing? Tell us while we're missing tweet us, let us know what kind of car show you want. Yeah, do it tell us what you want. We'll go. We'll try to do it. No, I'm not. Gonna do it. We're going to do going racing, then we'll put up on the fucking internet. These fucking. Yeah, that's fucked themselves. I'm tired of these idiots out or provide something that's halfway decent look. Grand tour is a great show and then everything else is pure shit and the fastest car as cars at doc. It's a human story about people. You know, this guy's disabled. They said he'd never walk again, but that's not gonna stop him from driving car. That's great. That's great. That's great for Lynette. It's great for me. I wanna see some cars. Yeah, I'm a car person. I'm not the human story about that. Half the other cars velocity, half those other shitty shows like it's our forty fifth anniversary. We went out on our first date at sixty six t bird I wanna get a sixty six t bird restored for my wife's forty. Fifth anniversary. That's great. Great. Old guy with your fat fucking wife. Not interested, right? I like cars, not love stories. I wanna see fucking cars not you being reunited with your fucking son, the veteran who wanted Impala before he was shipped off to Iraq. Great. That's where my fucking wife. I want cars. Yeah, I won't cars. It's a car show. Show me a fuck decent car. Jesus Christ. I'm in fucking executives are fucking it drives me nuts. And how can you create a good car show? If you're an executive and you don't know shit about cars in, everything's just about the conflict in. I would say they're actually angry at cars the yes, ours. Have they just don't like they don't like their audiences who they don't like. Listen, if I wanna see conflict, then I'll watch real housewives of Orange County, but I don't want conflict. I went cars. Yeah. What do you think about all the cars? We love like the Jag x j two twenty the Guidi with the mid nineties one with the four turbos on it. Yeah, can't even think the county be one. I mean there's a, there's a jillion 'cause we love right the Maserati see one twelve or there's there's a million cars. We love never show up and any of these car shows ever. So we got another Impala lost heart, good car stories, not cars with anniversary stories, you know, kind his wife. They're good couple from fucking Indiana. What do I give a shit? Whether she gets her for her fucking Thunderbird back or not? Yeah. Yeah. Where's the care Byron escalate and do it on a different right going racing. Where's the vintage rates? Yeah. All right. We're both where you make us all sick. All you. Fucking shitty. Car shows thrown my day. Jesus rice. It's sad. Yeah. All right. Where we, what's going on with us. I'll tell you this piece of news that I found that I thought was kind of interesting was. We love what's going on in this world of of these re-creations. These rest amo`ds the Jonathan wards and the singers of the world, and this is group of never featured. You suck and Karsh shows. Lands and team lands t. I don't know a name of the group, but that's what it goes by guess is it's Elian z. a. n. t. so what they're doing is they are going to recreate a portion nine thirty. The ninth thirties from nine hundred eighty four to nineteen eighty-seven. There are only going to do eleven of these cars. I need a short block. Yeah. Well this is not quite sure block. You were looking for. Porsche had built a one point, five liter turbocharged v six, Brandon as the tag ta g Porsche, TEP's zero one. It was four McLaren f one cars back in the day, the engines produced a thousand horsepower in qualifying trim and seven hundred and fifty horsepower in racing spec. So when they turned down the boost. Yeah, yes. Well, this five lead on point five liter. There's a picture of it, right? We're looking at it a lot in or cooling going on. This group went to McLaren and bought eleven of the engines, and they're going to create eleven portion nine thirty's with this one point, five liter turbocharged v six, not slant nose now, and the crazy part is tag our the the watch. No, I don't think so. Insignia looks like. Maybe I don't know, but keep going. So it turned out not color me intrigued by the way. If you're from Amazon or from Netflixing executive in you're listening, don't go near this place. This is why fascinating old fucks waiting to die standing by Impala. So you would not be interested in this because this is super, super helpful and super interested in. Remember, your viewers are all fucking dumb, and they just went to see human stories about old guys standing in Barnes. If that get caveat, I don't want any executives from Amazon or Netflix listening because this is stuff that's infinitely fascinating. Yeah. And while the interesting to people that like cars, remember your listeners, your viewers, they're dumb, they don't like cars. Chances are these guys are building, aren't. Then they're out there out. Barnes. You're out, you're hot. It turns out that back in the day when they were doing the f. one staf McLaren had built a prototype, nine thirty with this engine and it was like, so out of sight like nobody knew about this car that it was even just speculate. It was just rumor and it turned out it wasn't rumor. It was a real thing. So these guys not a slant nose. These are built with the headlights. Yeah, look, very nine thirty of their time. Turbo Porsche of the era, the ATI now I don't. I don't know exactly. What the final horsepower is going to be in street trim and how do they tune it to give it enough torque to, you know, make it a good streetcar, but it's going to be amazing. What I don't get is is somehow we got so distracted with the nine thirty five at Rennes sport, the new one and the speedster that the first of this car, the prototype was at Ren sport. We've been see it. Nobody talked about it here. We are weeks later going by the way that anybody notice that one point five liter turbo nine thirty. That's what was the speedster. That's the one parked right next to when you did the interview of the nine thirty five speedster was next to it is it's a new modern day of the news. Yeah. Yes, news blown out by the MC I couldn't. I couldn't hear, but what's the speedster right next the right next standing when you were doing the interview with the Porsche guide and you couldn't hear that the two cars in that roped area was the speedster expand official, find new Porsche speech or not. Eleven speech speedster block that online of so into that nine thirty five. Why then like simultaneously I think in like I dunno Paris motor show or something, they debuted the speedster but in rent. And then when we saw gray and gold and silver, yes, that's a very. I wonder what the price point of that is is insane? Well, there's going to be eleven of them a one point. Five v six. That thing must if it's if it makes seven hundred horsepower it's gonna make it at eleven thousand rpm. Yeah. What I'm looking at some of the fine print and it looks like they're going to do a nine thousand RPM version of this and. But I guess we'll see, I guess we'll find out when they get a little closer to wealth, knowing what it's going to be, it's going to be so light. It's nice to have that weight out of the rear end, but you're right. There's still a lot of questions is going to be a carbon fiber body like we're seeing now, or is it going to be, you know, metal or Lumina Mer, whatever. Like how are they going to? Are they going to start with nine thirty's? They're going to do re-creations with different tubs. We don't know. But. It's going to be a ton of money and they're all going to be sold in a heartbeat, and they're going to be amazing. Right. 'cause that's where we are now, like just the just the the, the quality of car you have to build to get into this playing field is is so much higher. Now, the s you know, but this is a neat idea and that's a bad ass alleging. And you're buying it all for the engine, right. I'm sure the car is going to be cool, but yes, you're buying it all for the Anchin. Also the tag is the tag Hewer watch. But yeah, a holding company, they bought your watches. They actually own twenty or like about twenty percent of a Clarin right now at the tag is the insignia of the tag. Logo. But, but it's connected to tag how who or tag that's on the side of all the f, one cars seventies and eighties, right? Yeah. All right. Tells about gyco and then we'll take tanks Lapper. Everybody's got to do list. You drop off, dry cleaning, pick-up some milk, and now you can add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance to that list. You don't have to drop off or pickup anything. You just go to Geico dot com. And in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance. So if you want some extra money in your pocket, this is the most rewarding you most rewarding to do. You can do today, checkout geiko dot com. All right. Go. So we were talking and shows past about the tanks lap or somebody tweeted means said that's a motorcycle terms on a car term. I said, I don't know. People said it to me about cars. I'm sure it started in the motorcycle world and yeah, made its way to the car world. It was the front forks. Finally, slapping back and forth. It was. It was all right. If you go to car cast or the car cash cash dot com. Car cash show dot com. We'll show some pictures. Now I, we should understand it was the Fitzy two eighty z. I was driving and max Padoa probably need to start the little video. We put up there with a picture of the car, so you can actually see what kind of car I'm driving. I'm sure you guys start at. Yeah. And you look at the attach video you. It's a good looking car, sold it on, bring a trailer. You can see the re. Pictures and his pants. You can see the rear tail and the rear tail has kind of a, it's a shelf and it has three sides. It has the back in the right and the left. So you can kind of see with exceleron that a big tire gauge. Again, the round parts assize a half, a half, a good sized orange, and then it has a sixteen inch rubber tube hanging from that. You can will show you the tank slapper that's turned five car getting cargo. Turn left here. Getting very lows and back and back and back again. And then back again. And again. That was. That was a lap to. Okay, so I pulled out onto the track. I want around the track once and then I did the tanks Lapper which is I, it was cold. It was in March. It was cold out there. Yeah, and I went, you can go back max Pat. I went out to the track. I did one lap, and then I got into it. Evidently, those big slicks were probably still little bit cold. Yeah. When I did the tank slapper. So then I went back out minute, wait, wait a minute, wait raid. If that's the tank slapper wise, the gauge right there news evidence uncovered. Yeah, this is the second the second time around. So the first time around is when you when the targets must have fallen out, that's I emailed. You can actually see it on the right side of the track. And when you come back around, it's in the center of the track. Okay. So but then the theory of Hatta that you gotta say the tanks Lapper didn't. 'cause it. Yeah. I told you that for the show I said it was the second lap. So the first Japan do you, you're going to get me to kill myself. You said it was the second lap. This is the second lap. Yes. He met the tanks lab was the second in the Email I sent you. I said, you can even see the targets right after the tank slapper on the right side of the track. All right. Let me see that eight. When did you send that Email last night or Email each other after the second, the second Email, the first Email I think is the after the when you ask you what lap it was, so it fell off before the tank slapper? Yes, yes. Okay. That's you needed to verbalize that. We were talking ad nauseam about the tank slapper causing it. And the reason I kept saying use the tank separate. The second already I said, I already trove a lap with it on the back of the car Email was it's the first lap, or then we see the gauge and I said, I had a second lamp. You can see the targets on the right to the track. Right. I let say then we see the gate. Yeah, you said was, was that the first lap or question Mark? And then we see the gauge next lap. Thank you. And I said, I haven't a second lap. You can see the tire gauge on the right track. Right after the tanks. Lapper. Why? When you said right after I thought you meant, oh, we're talking about, right? Yeah. And it's a little confusing because we're trying to. Let's we're trying to. It's funny with the gestalt of this is the tank slapper caused the gauge to fly off you verbalize? No, absolutely. Not. It did not happen that way. It was there. That's, that's my posit the I get it now Matra the tank slapper did not cause it fell off on the first lap yet. All right. That's I need to. All right. So there was and then it got knocked into the middle of the track for the second lap. And that was turned. That was up the hill from turn five, and then it got knocked into the middle of the track. All right. So it takes five turns to take it now. Commercials, how many, how many bytes get or how many to get to the Mr. l.. Yeah. Yeah, it takes five turns you pull out onto the track. You one turn turn. Yes, it was the left. The left on turn five, but keep in mind. It's not five turns because the way you pull out onto the track, you'll void turn to. Yeah, on turn three right hand. Turn four right hand turn five. And probably what happens is you're going so slow on that first right hand turn. This is you're not getting into it and then turn four. You're starting to pick it up a little by turn five, you're starting to get into it. And so the thing did fall off on the first lap and then it got knocked into the middle that track. Yeah, on the on the second when it came around with tanks slap around second one, and then somebody wants to hit it square on and crushed it got a picture. Because the picture of the pieces in full who went out and got the pieces destroyed, I don't know. But it made us. It made me laugh the lesson you Bill, but probably just worked it in as a line item. But again, the thing that made it funny and that was a hell of a tanks Lapper. The thing that made it funny is as I was looking at it in the road, I thought who else could fuck up this badly. And then I thought only us, but. Sure enough. I didn't think it was us now now are right Let's see. I'm excited about that car. I'm excited about rebuilding the five, ten. There's just not enough days in the week anymore for for car guys. Next event? Let's see. We went to the Peterson. We saw Jay and Tim Allen. I think we talked about that how we did a little bit. Sima coming up and I don't have all the details on it, but I think you're going to be doing assigning or something that at the APEC show with Castrol. I wanna say, Tuesday, I don't have the exact time. A Brad and Aaron an IRA going to be doing shift and steer in the Magna flow booth and gate on Hagar, we're doing shift shifting stare each day. One one live show a day for how many days for the Ford days, Tuesday through Friday show each day there. We'll put all up on social media the times and everything. I think Tuesday, Thursday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, or all the same time, and then Fridays a different time. But so we're going to be out there doing some stuff for sure. Again, I don't. I don't know what your schedule is. You know what your schedule is coming in and out one day. Are you going to try to do a lap and Seema leave? Apex come. Do a lap at Sima. Probably after you're signing knowing me probably in and out. But they'll be some stops along the way where I'll see a company that makes a Luma umn bench vices. I'll get really excited. Yeah, I'll go. Are you gonna be at apex, which is a different type of event, and we're going to have to like walk over or take the tram over to get to Sima to different location. But we'll check. I think it'll be worth. Scene, if you have some time to grab an hour or two and do a lap through one of the halls at Sima, the all the big highrise stuff is in that central hall. But I also know you like, I think it's north hall has it's all the guys have like, like you're saying, like, here's the vice, and here's the toolboxes, and here's a new type of paint gun. Here's how you can hang yourself off the ceiling. So you can detail the roof for your car like all the cool stuff. There's the sham Shambo guy doing the demos and like all that all that stuff is going to be there. So I love that. All right, and you. Let's see, we got the you drove the ES three hundred through Texas, the Lexus hybrid. I did. We talked about it on the show this past Wednesday. We had alster Weaver from Edmunds dot com. Come back in and I went to Texas and did a little road trip in this Lexus hybrid, and he went to the Paris motor show. So go back and listen to that if you missed it because he kind of recaps all the cool stuff from that new Porsche, nine elevens and just like all the good stuff that's happening there. And I took this Lexus this ES three hundred h which is what we said on the show is a very important car for Lexus because it is the mid size sedan similar to what you're driving your Jag. It's hybrid and I'll tell you the one thing that that they figured out Toyota and Lexus is that seamless transition between the lead trick and gas engine. It's just so flawless. Like all the start stop features. We haven't so many cars. You can stay. Phil, you just know that happens every time and it hesitates at a stop light. This is so seemless and it's funny because we've talked about this before where the hybrid cars, whether it's performance or Konomi car, right? Like this Lexus or the NSF x.. Right when when you get to the stoplight at an NSF sex or or this Lexus and it shuts the motor down, but it's an hybrid mode and the electric Motors will move the car. So you don't have to fire up the engine and then go, and this makes it really nice and smooth when you're doing that, what range of that car? What do they claim? The ranges. So there is a way to put it in like an e v only mode, but it's not necessarily meant for that. So this isn't really like an electric mode per se. I can tell you that. Can you plug it in? I don't believe this is a plug in hybrid. Well, that's what I said. Can you plug it in? I mean, it's now a plug in I, we said. Hybrid, but I know there's some that are just plug in. There are some plunking hybrids, right? All plugging this. This is meant to use the gas engine more to give you a greater miles per gallon. This is meant like an e car. So what do you think getting forty miles per fill the thing? You don't plug it in or you can't plug it in and you drive. What do you think the ranges max paddle look it up? There's no plug it just like a Prius. Yeah, I want to say I, I picked up the car and I drove it around town and I drove it on the freeway and keep in mind that a hybrid car doesn't necessarily get its full benefit at highway skirts because it's not using you gotta hit the brakes and do whatever. So I got, I want to say, well over four hundred miles to tank, the maybe four fifty patta will will look it up. Am I if you're getting forty miles per gallon and I'm doing ninety on the free. Anyway, you're getting forty two city. Am I making this car up that I that I speak of? I know Jag is coming up with the electric stuff, but am I making up the hybrid sort of luxury car that I can just plug in every night or twice a week and get. Eighty or one hundred miles out of just pure electric and just fucking leave it on electric and go back and forth to work. And then if I wanna go to Las Vegas, the the motor will kick in the engine will kick in and we can do it that way. I can get the range I know to kick on periodically to keep the juices flowing and the oil move in like in it on its own. But I'm like, where's the luxury car has a plug where I can just go pure, plug in get seventy five miles range. That'll give me to work in back three or four times and then I'll just plug it in on Thursday. Yeah. So does that not exist? You're right. I don't believe it exists. I think it's on the way there is a BMW seven series plug in hybrid, but it's thirty mile range or something. It's not quite there, but it's interesting that you say that because part of the news that we have here is that. Jaguars planning basically to have their entire lineup of cars on the Jaguar. Now, the Range Rover brand, right? Well, all be essentially an EV of sorts, and probably the next one and their lineup, like we have the, I pace a little SUV that's coming out. But the next one and their lineup would be the x j would be the big sedan. And I don't know if it's going to be completely electric, like tesla or some sort of long range hybrid like you're talking about, but that's that is that is the idea now. The alternative of of what you're talking about would be like the Porsche MAC had. I'm using the word range. Okay. Well, over and over thirteen point, two gallon tank forty, four miles or you do the math because I want to know what the range of the cars Matt told me got forty mouse again. I went to rain it'll. It'll probably you could probably figure that it should have it on some spec sheet somewhere. I'm guessing. But if you wanna go thirteen times five eighty forty four, then you're at five eighty. Yeah, I don't think it. I don't think it's quite that high. I think as well. There were seventy. They're claiming that duct ten percent from that. Yeah, but you were saying, so it's interesting that that Jaguars making that move like what you're talking about. And again, I don't know if it's going to be pure electric, which would put it in the tesla and the Porsche mission e which we found out it's going to be called the Taicang or take hand. It's not. It's not that great. I mean, we were name. It's not that great of a name. All right. Tell us about Castro. Yeah. So. Which tesla does not use. Heat friction of Escasany breakdown and rob your engine of maximum performance friction results in a loss of performance of up to ten percent. Castrol edge is engineered with fluid titanium technology. It physically transforms to be stronger under pressure. This helps fight friction and deliver maximum levels of performance from your car is three times stronger against viscosity breakdown than leading oils Castrol edge, unlock the true performance in your car's engine. Well, you know, it's funny I think about we used to say motor and engine and people say Detroit motor city, but it really mean engine and car guys would go. Some car guys go. It's okay to say what size Motors in the carpenter. We do have to say motoring engine. Now I've always thought motor was electric and it is, but people accept it, I shouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's got a four forty six pack. That's a big motor. No one ever went. What does have armature 's like people understood motor Detroit motor city, but now we are going to have to be a little more stringent about motor motor casually, because I'm saying, how about the Motors that have a motor. I do now have to start saying engine because every or with the engine or whatever. Because if your car is going to have a motor and an engine we are going to have to. It's funny because I'm driving the Lexus and thinking using the motor, oh, I felt the engine kick in and I'm going back and forth. And then there's some version of of when the motor and the engines were working together had great mid range power because and I thought we thought. Previous hybrid, sort of like one or the other, but never combined. And I can't say it's combined, but it really felt like it was combined. When do you think people are gonna start taking delivery of the Jags? I think they just started taking delivery. Jag, as a matter of fact. You're going to drive when we got one come in for a week and after CBA November an I pace, I'm curious to see what you think. I'll be excited to drive it. I'm not gonna drive. I don't have a plug at home. We met the guys Jag when her doing the Laguna Seca Rolexes storks it's funny now be careful when you talk to these people because when they're bragging about the two hundred forty mile range of the three hundred mile range and they start getting into the nuts and bolts. Though say you know the start throwing out numbers, then they'll go. It's got a three hundred mile range and you can charge two eighty percent in twenty minutes and you go, oh, I can get two hundred twenty five miles and twenty minutes from from zero. That's that's kind of impressive. And then you'll go but not off one ten, right. And they go, no, no, not off the house current and then you'll go like, oh, so I have like the special box like the to forty bucks go. Yeah. Yeah. And then at some point you'll double back and go wait a minute. I my wife has the tesla. We have the tesla to forty box in our garage. It takes nine hours for her to get to two hundred miles with the fast charge box. How can you guys do it in twenty minutes and they go, no, that. Know how many volts are you running and you know, and then go, what's the current? Then you go known, they'll go, how many amps is your box? And then at some point that the. The clouds will part. Yeah, and it'll be one of their fast charging stations, right? Or a nuclear power plant lightning not at home. What they mean is nobody's going to get it done in twenty minutes how well they will. If you're at the bun boy and you're halfway in bay California and they put a charging station there, maybe they're not. They're not saying you're going to do that at home. My kind of answer when I want boy is real thing then that's halfway between Vegas and LA start driving to Sima do of my God. There's so much traffic. The point is stop at the okay. The point is this what I really wanna know is if you have a three hundred mile range. How fast can you get to eighty percent with the box I buy and wire into the garage and plug in on the two forty current. Yeah. What's the fastest? I can get forget eighty percent. What's the fastest? I can get to a hundred miles. Yeah, if I am at close if I'm at four miles and I plug it in how fast can I get to a hundred miles plugged into the two forty chargers garage. Yeah, and that answer seems to be less impressive. Yeah, and it's not like oats double. It's forty minutes. It's not. It's still it's six or five, right? Because you like the one ten l. takes thirty hours to charge and then the super fast charger, whatever still eight or nine hours and then there's the, you know, the fun boy charger that's twenty minutes. You don't know the pun boy. The no. Let's see. Ma- has a plug in. Ninety one ninety seven miles on the battery. Go ahead. So this is the BMW I three s REX which is meant for people who have what I think you have is ranging Zayed's, right. And so this is we talked about when you test drove one or went to go see one with silly pig nose front, that it couldn't do enough range, and they said, we're gonna. We're gonna increase the battery, an offer, like a big range version. Well, let me let me jump in for a second here. I think the people when they say range, anxiety, they're talking about people who are like, I want to go to the Grand Canyon and I don't wanna have to rent a car to go to the Grand Canyon. My range anxiety is I live eleven miles from where I work are nine and a half miles from where I work. I don't wanna have to go to work and plug it in. Yeah, I want to go to work and come back. That'll be twenty miles. And I don't want to plug it in that nine and errand or two. Yeah, I don't want to plug it in that night. I wanna go to work. I want to be able to go back and forth to work for the week and then plug it in on Friday. Right? BMW the fucking of I seven or whatever it was that thing at a range of nineteen mile eight. Yeah, I that thing was like, you could drive it to work and then just plug it into work and it's like, I can't even get home. I live close to work, so that was bullshit. But just to put a point on, it usually talk about range, anxiety, they're talking about how far you can get. Go back and forth a couple of times before I plug it back and go ahead expat. But yeah. So as you read ninety seven miles on the battery pack and then you'll get another eighty three. Once it starts in the gas is what amounts to a two point three gallon Jerry can. Right. So it's got like a little motorcycle engine right ninety seven is is fine. But at that point, why don't I get a Chevy volt? Yeah, with two thirty five one ninety six or whatever is one of the one of the better technology EV cars. Yeah, I like the BMW it's fine, and it's a little funky town, but it's a BMW and that'd be a good thing just to plug in and go at at that range. I could almost get to work in back for, but we're getting close. Everybody's doing it eighties Jag, Porsche, everybody's going to have some sort of electric thing going on. All right. Let me tell you about Zaib our revolutionary new product. Our car cast team excited about. Ultra thin coding for manifold. We talked to this. I bar guy about this headers turbos tail pipes, mufflers and tips point zero zero. One inch thickness reduces rating heat by ninety percent. I d I y thermal coating of its kind. 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Episode 79  Changing Categories (and Tags) in Bulk

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04:24 min | 1 year ago

Episode 79 Changing Categories (and Tags) in Bulk

"Welcome to the WordPress photography podcast, the podcast for photographers who wanna learn how to get the most out of WordPress to grow their photography business. You don't need to be a geek to understand WordPress. Settled back and listen as we show you how. Now, here's your host, Scott widened kipah wits. Welcome to episode Seventy-nine. My name is Scott widened, give woods and today. I want to answer another question from you, the listeners the community photographers who are using WordPress in the WordPress press photographers group on Facebook. I personally run there was a question asked. Is there a way to change the category of three hundred posts in a quick way? The answer is. Yes. And what I wanna do is show you right now. How to go about that? So I created a dummy instance, and you can see right here. There are twenty posts that have one carry category. Call this category needs to be renamed I made and then there's another call the default category called uncategorized and two hundred ninety eight posts with that category. So I'm going to quickly just go back to the post list just to show you real quick how you can change the category. If you wanna see more. Post like three hundred posts you can hit the show show screen options and change at two three hundred. However, if you're on a shared host if you're on a host that doesn't have their their PHP ramp up all the way as high as good possibly be you might find your having timeouts so it won't actually work. When you go to make a bulk changed the three hundred posts so in this situation in might be worth going page by page, or let's say increasing the fifty maybe a hundred but you go into like three hundred one might wind up causing us some trouble. So, but that said you can select everything on the page. You're on go to bulk actions. Hit edit you can actually in bulk remove a category. It you can do it. If you do one at a time, so you can quick at it and just remove one category. See if I go like this. Now, there's one that's category, but you can't actually remove category. One category in. In bulk from a group oppose. So that's a little tricky. So what you would have to do in this situation. Is you go to the categories posts in categories, and you can actually go to less want to rename this one called uncategorized has two hundred ninety eight posts in it. You can go and click edit for that category. And then change it from I from uncategorized or whatever to I just renamed this posts change slug to renamed and then hit update and now all of them every single one has new category can see two hundred eight now have a new category with a new slug called I just rename this post. So if you wanna go from from Porsche photography to to engagement for talker for you or you want to go from of photography to wedding photography or something like that you can do that. The simplest way is just literally rename a post category in the categories tab, the other way if you have. Couple of post you want to do is to do it. Using the bulk options book at it's inside the post, but again, you can't really remove categories only add categories, so you could if you wanted to add a new category, and then delete the old category through categories. So simplest way. Just edit rename the actual category. If you have any questions about categories in by the way, this works with tags as well, then go to Amazon dot com slash podcast slash seventy nine and you know, comment, let me hear your questions. And if you have other questions also comment that I can address that question in a future. Thanks for watching. You've been listening to the word press photography podcast to listen to other episodes and to subscribe to the podcast by I tunes, Stitcher. Google play and more, please. Visit image Lee dot com forward slash podcast.

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32 - Jay Gillotti and "Gulf 917"

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45:42 min | Last month

32 - Jay Gillotti and "Gulf 917"

"I and. I thought people might appreciate hearing the lives of what happened to these individual cars over the last almost fifty years when we finished writing because at the end of thousand, nine, hundred, one, all of these cars were obsolete. Some of them were sort of left for dead. This is cars that matter. This is Robert Ross with cars that matter welcome and I would like to welcome a very special guest today Jay Jay. Jay is up in Seattle at present I'm in Los Angeles and we are having a great conversation over Zoom J.. Welcome to our program takes Robert. I'm glad to be here. You've got quite a story and I think we've got quite a conversation in store especially for people who love very very special and very important race car. But before we tell everybody what that is a little something about you, you retired from the big corporate life in two thousand sixteen and by my reckoning, you're still a young guy, you've been able to focus on a centrally a second career as an. Automotive writer I don't want to shortchange. You've been actually doing that for a long time but now you're doing full time. So I don't know if I should say condolences are congratulations but I, think that's a great transition. I. Think it's congratulations good news is when I retired from the corporate world I said that I wasn't really retiring I just wanted to work on things that I wanted to work on. So that's pretty much what I'm doing you certainly are, and of course, your name ring a bell with me when I first got this notice too have a podcast with because. Time Porsche CLARICA member I've seen your name in Panorama, and obviously you've got a lot to say about porsches. We're here to talk today about a book that you have just published with Halton Watson Fine Books. It's a book called garden of nine seventeen or that one word and that one number it just pulls at the heartstrings of race fans everywhere. It would not be an understatement to say that this book is really a majesty aerial achievement is damn near two inches thick about five hundred pages and almost as many images. J I wish our listeners could actually hold it in their hands because it's a hugely impressive thome Oh thank you very much. Obviously, culminates a close to a forty year love affair with a porsche nine seventeen actually longer than forty years. If we really want to get into it that goes back all the way to the first time I saw Steve McQueen's film which would have been the first time they showed it on network television in the US which we think was somewhere around nineteen, seventy, two or three. So I would have been eight or nine years old and impressionable age obviously made a pretty deep groove in the psyche enough to make you the acknowledged expert on the cars well, maybe one of the acknowledged experts there are several out there besides me certainly a modest. For those listeners who may be familiar with the name Gulf and familiar with Porsche model designation nine, one seven, it's a pretty complicated historical talking points. Tell us what makes the nine seventeen such an important car. First of all, it's a car that was designed to win the twenty four hours of Lamont. Time and perhaps still is the most important motoracing the world. So at that time I think globally, it was the most important motor race and Ferdinand who was head of research and development for Porsche clearly set out to build a car that was capable of winning overall at Loma Porsche had been many many class wins at Lamont in the first twenty years of their existence, but they hadn't won the race overall. So that's what he really set. Out to do with the nine seventeen and he was successful Porsche was still a relatively small company in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, nine when they started building the nine seventeens I think Porsche assault about fourteen thousand cars. So you compare that to some of the other manufacturers and Porsche really was still a small family owned company. Mercedes was like gm by comparison, and of course, Porsche has gone on to win the Mall Nineteen Times in total. Since. Then the second thing on the nine seventeen is as with everything porsche does is engineering based and they're always looking for transfer from the race cars to the streetcars. So the nine seventeen brought us a lot of experimentation with exotic metals and alloys. It was the first use of vented and cross drilled brakes. It was the first experiment with ABS antilock braking system, and of course, turbo charging for the can am nine seventeens that's technology that. Very quickly made its way to the streetcars, and now if you look at what portions doing today, the majority of all of forces cars, especially, sports cars are turbocharged. The third thing is the nine seventeen has become a car culture icon in part due to Steve McQueen in the film. As we mentioned, it's a pretty high power association between a very charismatic individual and I would argue the nine seventeen is a highly charismatic car in fact. Steve. was famous for upstaging his co stars especially early in his career in film and I would argue if you watch Lamont, the nine seventeen actually upstages him. The fourth thing on the nine seventeen is just speed people love sheer speed and the nine seventeen set numerous speed records in seventy vic. Elford was the first person to look Lamont at one hundred, fifty, mile an hour average speed in the nine seventeen, seventy, one, they were pushing something over. Two hundred forty miles an hour down the Malzahn Straight and at SPA in seventy one, our Gulf cars average speed was one, hundred, fifty, four miles an hour for a thousand kilometers, and that includes the time the car stationary in the pits and federal Rodriguez set the lap record at one hundred and sixty two miles an hour on a public road. That's the fastest sports car race ever run and I doubt that record will ever be beaten. Jay this is an incredible overview of an incredible car putting it into context. Probably everybody listening to this show as seen the recent film for versus Ferrari, and of course, the Ford GT and the Ferrari three thirty s of the period were remarkable cars but they essentially became antiques wants the nine seventeen hit the scene. It changed the game for everybody didn't the funny thing is the nine seventeen in a way also grew out of the Ford. Versus Ferrari period because the FAA theoretically was not only worried about the sheer speed of the GT forties with their seven leader big block American engines but also people tend to think that the French maybe weren't too happy about the Americans coming over and winning them on the way they did with a kind of a crushing display of money and horsepower. So the FAA changed the rules after Gurney and foyt one in sixty seven in the mark four. The FAA change the rules and said for sixty eight you've gotta come down to three liter prototype, which was the same as a formula one motor, but they left the door open to a quote unquote sports car series produced sports. Car could be up to five years, John Wire and the Gulf team carried on with. GT, forty with a small block because the GT forty, they had already built more than fifty. So it was approved from a homologation point of view and they could continue to race the GT forty with the two, eighty nine. Yeah. So the golf team went onto win lomb again, sixty eight and sixty nine with their GT forties and Porsche in sixty eight. Of course, came out with a three liter prototype the nine hundred eight which had invested a lot in an thought was going to be very successful and it was successful a lot of drivers like that car. They're a terrific cars however at the end of sixty eight, the Gulf. Team had won the championship for Ford, the Manufacturers Championship because Lamont counted for more points than any of the other races. The Gulf team had used all three chassis. He's during the season whereas Porsche had built somewhere around forty or more racing cars for their racing effort in sixty eight so that I think became a concern for ferry Porsche just amount of money that or show is spending on the other hand Ferdinand. Win The FAA changed the rules and said okay, we'll bring it down to twenty five cars for group four, five liter homologation Ferdinand. Had that light bulb moment said wait a minute we're building these cars anyway why can't we just go ahead and build twenty five cars all at once and will get a molestation approval for a five litre sports racer based on our nine, and that's really how the nine seventeen project got started. Let's jump off and help me understand and those listeners who may not have a full taxonomy of nine seventeen under their belt. There are so damn many of them what are all the various you talk about short? Tails and long tails and spiders in these evil canam cars and even a sixteen cylinder prototype at one time, and let's talk about the Gulf cars because that is what your books about. The first twenty, five cars that were bill actually came with two tales. You could have a short tail or a long tail. The Tales were detachable and you could run them either in a short tail or long tail form. The problem was the car was highly unstable. No matter what till you put on it at that point. Those. Sales obviously were the fashion statement. Tell us what they were used for the long tail was supposed to be lower drag for high speed circuits. They did use the short tail at SPA even though spas a high speed circuit, but neither tale worked particularly well because the car was so fast. The Art of aero-dynamics in motor racing at that time was still something of a black art and they just didn't understand that the cars were going so fast that they were creating lift at the rear of the car. The rear wheels were literally trying to take off at speeds up around two hundred and beyond, and so of course, when you rear reels lift up off the ground, it's unstable and hard to control but in sixty nine, Porsche also tried the first open cockpits spider of the nine seventeen for the Canam Joseph drove the car in the Canam in sixty nine kind of an experiment. They didn't have the horsepower to really race against the mclarens but Joe did pretty well I think he finished in the top five and. All of racist he did in sixty, nine, four, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, and seventy one you mainly have to variations. You have the short tail nine Seventeen K and that's the tale that was jointly developed by the golf team and Russia Porsche also developed a new version of the long tail for Nineteen seventy-one in cooperation with Sierra. ESI are a which is the French arodynamicists and that car was much more stable and much faster and allowed vic as I said, do that hundred and fifty mile an hour lap at. Lhamo. Then we have the spiders again both for Canam and Inter Siri Racing in Europe where you didn't need headlights, you didn't need to have a roof. There were sort of canam rules and there was no minimum weight. So you could cut the roof off and have a spider, and then for Canam in seventy two, they developed the nine seventeen ten which eventually became the first Porsche to be turbocharged and from nine seventeen ten, we went to the nine seventeen, thirty in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, three, that was. The big brute wasn't all nine, seventeen thirty as raced by Mark Donohue and Penske team developed. You hear all kinds of numbers and it's hard to really nail down what the numbers were certainly something in the region of twelve hundred horsepower or more depending on the boost was available to mark in the nine seventeen thirty, probably the nine seventeen tens everybody else was racing were somewhere close to that in terms of horsepower big power for the time especially given the rubber technology and breaking and everything else they had contend. With, turbos were pretty primitive animals back then to turbos were common in all track indy-car racing and had been for quite a period of time. But to use a turbocharged engine for sports car racing on a road circuit was a whole new different animal to try to make the car controllable and make all that power usable on a circuit where you have to speed up and slow down and go around corners and so on. That was all new territory donahue and the PENSKE team helped a lot with Orsha in. that. As we say, the rest is history nine, hundred, seventy four we had a nine thirty nine eleven. Amazing. How quickly that technology made it to the street and then Porsche went on win numerous additional victories Atlema with turbocharged nine, thirty, six, nine, fifty, six, nine, sixty, two thanks for that primer on the nine seventeen, a fascinating family tree of remarkable cars. But within that family tree, you have focused on the so-called Gulf cars everybody probably. Knows Gulf blue I'm fan of it. A true confession. I've got a car skull Luke because for me, it represents probably the most iconic racing team in history. So you've got a book called garden nine seventeen. We got the Porsche Factory we've got Gulf oil the John Wire racing. Tell us what it's all about. How did it all come together? It's actually what I would consider an early experiment in what today we would call outsourcing Porsche. Counts Ferry Porsche thought that Porsche was spending too much money on their racing not just money but also engineering resources in a small company. He thought perhaps his engineers were spending too much time actually traveling to the races and conducting the race as opposed to being at their desk and designing the next generation of Porsche streetcars as well as racing cars, and then there is a. Little bit of if you can't beat them, join them I mean Porsche had lost the championship and lost at Lamont to John Wires team in sixty eight. So they came up with this idea to actually outsource the factory, the official factory Porsche racing team to John. Wire with golf sponsorship for Nineteen Seventy and seventy one that's how the Gulf nine seventeen story. Got It. Start important piece. Of It was toward the end of nineteen, sixty nine, the very first test session that was attended by John Horseman who was the Chief Engineer for the golf team was a test session at Zell Egg in Austria, and they still couldn't get the nine seventeen to behave on track. The sixty nine was a troublesome debut for that car. Is that right? The drivers were afraid of it? Some of them were anyway my friend Vic Alfred, was not afraid of it. He loved it even though it was spooky handling but being a rally driver I think gave him a little different level of confidence with being able to control the car on track at least Lama, which is where he almost darn near one them all in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, nine, they were fifty. Miles in the lead when the transmission case cracked nine seventeen did win its first race in August of sixty, nine at Zolt but the car is still wasn't handling in a way that gave the driver's full confidence in the car was doing. So in October of sixty nine, the first test that was attended by the Gulf teen with John Horsemen the engineer they basically figured. It out John Notice that the little nats little bugs were collecting on the front of the car but there was nothing on the tail. There were no little bugs. No little dead bugs even though the tail flaps were raised almost full vertical position there was just nothing e just said there's no air getting on the tail. So there's downforce back there. So the Porsche guys let him. Borrow. One of the two coupes that was there and they cobbled together using some she aluminum and pop rivets tape. They basically created this upward sweeping tale. It was an amazing transformation Brian Rudman was the I gotta drive it when this cobbled together tale was ready and I think he was pretty skeptical at first, but they had been trying to fix the car by adjusting the suspension. With spring rates and shocks and nothing was working and the drivers would only go out for two laps and then they would come in and they would shake their head would say, no snow better. But when Brian tried the so-called entail the first time you say it out for five laps and was going progressively faster came in the pits and famously said now it's a racing car. In the service of Motor Sports, and by the way, the resulting cars were some of the most beautiful profiles of any race cars there. John Horsemen gets a lot of good credit for some the problem, but I think that we also have to remember that it's pretty well accepted that the Porsche engineers that were out the test at least Helmet Flagel and Peter Falk over the Porsche. The test they knew full. Well, what the problem was. Their problem was with their boss 'cause Ferdinand had a mandate that the cars must be low drag. He wanted to go fast down the street. So minimizing drag was it for him, and so they didn't quite know how to tell their boss. We've gotTA SACRIFICE ON DRAG to get some down for us. So this car will handle, but they were conveniently then able to blame it on John Horsemen and the Gulf team, and they could go to their boss and say, look the Kars four seconds a lap faster, and when you think as Brian would say when you think how you struggle for a tenth or to. Turn it. That's a lifetime. Then when they put it on firestone tires, five seconds faster Porsche had to do the engineering of actually creating new rear bodywork based on the experiment that horsemen had done and that allowed for a bunch of other changes to the car that we're now. So familiar with all the exhaust could exit out the back of the car, the race tail allowed for the transmission theoretically stay cooler because there was more air circulation back there than in the original car. So to figure all that out and they only had about four weeks to create the new body shape. Oh, by the way at the same time. They were also working on a new shape for the nose. So it was a combination also of the new shape of the nose with the horsemen tail and they only had about four weeks before they had to go to Daytona for the super-secret test in November of sixty nine, and that is something I cover in the book because it's an interesting task because no photographs exist it was so secret in the book, I actually commissioned a couple paintings that are kind of like what if paintings? What if there were photographs what might have looked like at that test but that test proved that the cars were ready to race in this? New Configuration in seventy one the rest is history as they say, your book really is an exercise in obsessive detail and that's a good thing by the way one of the reasons that it. So again, I use the word magisterial is that it doesn't leave any stone unturned and it provides a Vin by Vin analysis of every single Gulf nine seventeen and they're fourteen chassis, and you talk about all of going into there was thought in the back of my mind, why do we need another book about the nine seventeen? The nine seventeen has been written about a lot more books have been published about the nine seventeen than any. Other. Porsche racing car I think I counted something over twenty books that have been written in the lasts forty plus years of course about the nine seventeen but I thought it would be nice to tell the story. The story hadn't fully been told from the English side from the Gulf team's perspective wire was British and all of this work was German car with German engineers at British development people and of course, international team driver there's certainly were politics because not everyone at portion necessarily thought this was the greatest idea to outsource their factory cars to the Englanders. The thought is that not everybody necessarily went along with us and Ferdinand Did a few things perhaps to hedge his bats, his mother, Louise, PEAC, own Porsche, Salzburg which is the Austrian arm of the Porsche business that was the importer for Volkswagen and Porsche in. Austria Sutton at Daytona in nineteen, nine, hundred, Seventy Gulf team shows up with two cars and all of a sudden. There's a third nine seventeen there that they weren't expecting and it's entered by Porsche. Salzburg Hair PEAC is there with worship factory mechanics he's got theoretically to Porsche factory drivers including Vic Elford, and so there was some question about internal competition there but the Gulf team did. Very well in that first race and Rodriguez and Kenan one with some help from Brian Rudman won the race by forty five laps. It was pretty crushing display, not only by the nine seventeen itself finishing first and second but also the Gulf team conducted the race in the way that Porsche was hoping they would, and that's really i. think what Porsche was betting on was the conduct of the racing program would be very effective under John Wires leadership and with golf oil from the United, states helping with paying the bills. Was it just by accident that Gulf was wrought? In and not Shell or Union or somebody else chapter three in my book is a chapter called Gulf verses Porsche and it talks not only about the period of time where golf was racing against Porsche. But it also talks a little bit about how the relationship got started between John Wire and gray. Davis, who is the executive vice president of Gulf Oil Grady bought GT forty for himself. That body might race that really started the relationship between Gray Davis and John Wire Gray Davis apparently consulted with John Wire about how golf could best deploy its marketing dollars relative to. Motor sport. Most of the other oil companies were spreading their dollars out very widely with Sinus, at the race tracks and putting one small decal on everybody's Car John? Wire. Very occasionally I think said if you would just sponsor one car in your callers, you would get much better exposure. Then the other fuel companies like elephant shell and wire may have been a little bit self serving in that advice. But as it turned out the combination of golf and John, wire was pretty successful right out of the gate in nineteen, sixty seven, which was their first season they did. Pretty well, there's an interesting story about the colors because initially great Davis, they used his GT forty at Daytona and see bring in sixty seven and he had it painted in the more traditional dark metallic blue with the orange, which was more the official Gulf corporate collars. But all the guys thought that color combination was a bit on the dull side. So they went looking for something that would pop a little more and so they came across the light blue with Marigold, which is the official name of the orange people just instantly took a liking to it in the. livery developed a little bit during the sixty seven seasons but carried on for a number of years. There's a whole color science to the light blue and orange and why they worked together and they're opposite each other on the color wheel and complementary colors. Yeah and again Steve McQueen movie The great question is if he hadn't made the movie when he made it, would we even be here talking about the golf cars I don't know I can't answer that question but it's an interesting thought experiment talking about Chief Engineer John Horsemen for the wire racing he was instrumental in. Informing your book is that correct? Yes, and we lost John this year unfortunately but I'm so glad that I met him and had a little bit of a relationship with them enough to consult with them. We got him to allow us to scan all of period documents that he still had from that period. Many of those documents we present in the book the race datasheets are particularly interesting I. Think what John would do is when he came back from each race, his handwritten notes would be typed up by his secretary in a standard format that they had started using. With the GT forties for each car at each race, there is to page onion skin like documents they were taped together and they're in a loose leaf notebook. John had for all these years and Halloween of two thousand seventeen actually is when I'll never forget spending a couple of days with John Going through the first draft of the book and all my questions, and then we went and scanned all those documents very carefully untamed ping taking them out of the notebook and then scanning them and putting everything very carefully back into the notebook, but it's great to share all that. especially. For people who really want to keep out on gear ratios, suspension settings, he makes note of the weather. That's fascinating. Love it. Take a short break, but we'll be right back. Welcome to like done better listen to the weekly episodes where supermodel and health coach Jill D. Young talks to some of the world's most inspiring women in health and wellness. It's the place for all the UNICORNS who strived to create a life on their own terms. Join us to explore, discover and create a life done better together. Listen and subscribe from Kurt Co Media Media for your mind. We're back with Jay. Gave One of interesting things about your book is that you obviously have a lot of pages to the drivers I. Know that a few of these guys have become friends talk about some of the stars that were actually having these cars. One of the perspectives I took on this book is that people might not necessarily know a whole lot about this period of history maybe they've seen the movie and. So they're interested in the cars but they don't maybe know the history in great depth maybe don't know a whole lot about the drivers themselves. That's why I also include a very brief introductory chapter on the early history of Porsche because people might not be Porsche Aficionados. But they might think the cars or pretty cool and that way they can learn a little bit about where Porsche came in first. One years but the drivers who are still with us many of whom have become friends of mine and helped a lot with the book would be Brian Redman, Vic Elford and Derek Bell. But we have a sidebar for each of the important drivers that did multiple races with the golf team. So that includes also the Great Joseph and the Great Pedal Rodriguez who were the number one drivers and who. Were two of the top drivers of that era both in sports, cars and Formula One both very charismatic individuals. There was a tremendous rivalry at least on the track between SIFFORD and Rodriguez. They famously hit each other at the star of the race at. Spa. In nineteen seventy, there's quite a bit of video of that. So it was pretty intense rivalry they both thought they were the best driver and were. Out to prove it and they were both very successful federal Rodriguez was a little more successful in the. Gulf. Cars as it turned out but they made for an exciting pair I. Don't know how John Wire he tried to manage them but I'm not sure he was tremendously successful and I think once they got on on the track they kind of did their own thing. Yeah they were unmanageable at. That Point Pedro Rodriguez by most accounts, he was the more calculating driver. He was the more naturally strategic driver who would wait and look for his opportunity not overstressed the car because remember this is endurance racing. We're about we're not talking about sprint racing Sifford was more the charger as Brian Redman would say so sifford pretty much only knew one way to go and that was as fast as possible and. That, unfortunately, cost them the race at Lamont in nineteen seventy which turned out to be cautious I win at long really should have gone to the Gulf team of Sifford in Redmond but didn't because different Mr Gear and blew the engine which was the Seventeenth Achilles, heel like all great heroes are nine seventeen have an Achilles heel that you have to watch out for and unfortunately that costs Sifford in. Redmond the race in seventy that injury was obviously a layout that had not been explored by Porsche until that time. So Metzger designed essentially a flat twelve is that right? I? Mean that was quite complicated power plant I'm glad you brought that up because we need to give great credit to Hans Metzker who was porsche's engine genius for many many years in participated in or designed many of forces crate engines. Certainly. One of those when you think about it, the layout is similar to a date nine away what with four more cylinders? The main differences the power takeoff is from the center of the crank through a system of gears. It goes down to a prop shaft basically, and that was done to minimize vibration. So they used a lot of the dimensions and even some of the exact dimensions of the nine. Eight engine, but just made it four cylinders bigger took the power off the center of the crank. The most amazing thing to me about it is they ordered the parts for all twenty engines without ever building a prototype talk about a leap of faith and some confidence in their own engineering and it worked first time on the dino. It made something like five, hundred, forty horsepower more horsepower than any previous. Porsche. and was the first porsche engine to make more horsepower than it's weight, and then pretty soon with little development and tuning, they got it up to something like five hundred and eighty horsepower from the four and a half liter version that they race in sixty nine. One other thing that's fun about that engine is unlike many of our other Porsche flat engines are flat six, nine eleven and nine seventeen is not a boxer. The opposing cylinders do not box they move in the same direction and so that's why we. Argue about this endlessly but most of us, refer to it as one hundred Eighty Degree v twelve because the opposing cylinders move in the same direction. That's a fun argument in the facebook group that we have a little bit about that. Well, the primary group on facebook is called nine seventeen, the legend and I've been participating in it now for almost ten years and it's grown to an amazing number of members it's up to fifteen, thousand, six, hundred members, which is to me mind boggling, but it shows the tremendous enthusiasm. That's out there around the world literally around the world for the nine seventeen, the to gto groups combined I think have about six thousand members and we're sitting at fifteen, thousand, six, hundred for nine, seventeen, the legend. So that's pretty cool and the other really cool thing about the group is we are still to this day turning up photos that have never been seen before isn't that great how these amazing old photos many of them are just snapshots or whatever that have been digitized and show up in the group and We have some really lively column discussions about yeah. Some characters there's always a few. We have some unresolved chassis renumbering issues with a few of the nine seventeen, and so that becomes a very lively discussion. Occasionally, it's fun though we try to keep it fun and friendly. It really is fun to get into the weeds and again I mean your book does that in a fascinating way just being able to read the history of every one of those fourteen Chelsea's they've all had interesting lives. It's so interesting to me, I. Thought people might appreciate hearing the lives of what happened to these individual cars over the last almost fifty years when we finished writing because at the end of Nineteen seventy-one, all of these cars, Rob Sleet, some of them were sort of left for dead. These things were just old used cars. Once their racing careers were over and I guess one of their drivers was able to actually acquire. One Joe SIEFERT got a nine seventeen and that nine seventeen of course resurfaced after a long spell, a barn and it came. To Auction, that's chassis twenty four, a lot of US refer to it as twenty four dash to because it's really the second car to carry the chassis number Oh to four, but it was sold to Sifford and he leased it to sell our productions for the filming of the Lamar movie that's The star of the movie. Well, it's one of them because the other one is chassis twenty two which was actually owned by Solaar and is mainly driven by Steve McQueen in the stage sequences that were filmed for the movie. So, the two cars are both stars. SIFFORD's car than a sad moment came when it appeared in his funeral in nineteen, seventy-one Sifford and Rodriguez were both killed in one thousand nine, hundred, seventy one. That's sad. Part of my story is both of my number one drivers didn't survive Sifford was killed in a Formula One accident and Rodriguez was killed in Ferrari in a sports. Car Race is a dangerous job back. Then those guys were there double sifference car appeared in the funeral procession fifty thousand people and Freiburg Switzerland turned. Out For his funeral and they had the big black piece of cloth across the car but then the car was sold and it was gone, it was lost for the better part of twenty five years. It was stored in a barn near Paris? I. Think in France and then eventually it was discovered and restored, and then that's the car that sold at auction a few years ago when seventeen I was all over that thing and of course, the closest I'll ever get to owning one is thirty seconds scale model but. It was a remarkable thing to see, and of course, the secret is to the broom collection and it's on display there. Now, it's definitely a piece of history and never actually raced probably why it's still in one piece. Yeah, yeah, and again, all the individual Kassy's have led rather interesting lives since the end of nineteen seventy, one, seven of them were actually had their roofs cut off and they were converted to spiders for intercessory racing in. They've all now been restored back to coupes because they're more valuable that way some people are not happy about that part of it, but they're all back in Gulf colors now and restored to coupet form. Nobody was ever thinking fifty years ahead of power, the historians going to know. What we did with these cars, they had no way of knowing how valuable they were going to be book does serve to bring things up to the current state and will be regarded as a reference tool going forward to actually support the provenance of each one of these important automobiles and not to put too fine a point on it. These are important automobiles because the SEAFORD car that sold at gooding twenty seventeen sold for fourteen million dollars. That's not chump change and clearly I think it indicates the. Significance of these cars, not just to Coterie of collectors who can afford them. But in the whole fabric of motor sport, it's a rare racecar that achieves that kind of valuation. They're not the rarest of Porsche racing cars because Porsche did build quite a number of them but because of their appeal I, don't think I'm out on too much of a limb to say that the best of the nine seventeen, the most valuable of any portion is in the world we don't know exactly how valuable the. Best of the best are because they don't sell publicly. So we don't know exactly how much they're worth a few of them that have really superb race histories have been in the same hands for a long long time. So we don't really have an idea of how they would compare with safer are GTO money or whatever, but they're up there for sure I don't particularly love the word icon but if there's a good use of the word icon, Gulf nine, seventeen are right there nor argument at all. Well we're GONNA take a quick break, but we'll be right back. A moment of your time. A new podcast from Kirk media. Currently twenty one years old and today like magic defended from her fingertips down to the picture of yourself because the world needs you and you. Got It asked about me was ready to spit on my drink. Seniors were facing feel like your purpose in your worth is really being stopped me from. She buys walkie-talkies wanders to whom she should give the second. Humans we never did we never will we just find Rock climbing is that you can only focus on what's right in high and so our American life begins. We may need to stay apart but let's create together available on all podcast platforms. Submit your piece by Kirk Oh dot com slash a moment of your time. We'll come back cars that matter. Let's talk about the book itself as a Wannabe writer I think I understand what it would take if I could become a good writer and clearly I've seen that in your book, is it a fair question? Ask How long it takes to actually complete a book? Can you take us through that process? I'm not sure if my answer is representative of most books in the automotive space might be in my case you. Could argue it's a forty year process because I started collecting the information when I was in high school or certainly in college. When I was a freshman in college I bought my copy of John Wires book called the certain sound. That's way back in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, two, the book had come out I think in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty one but you still have it. Yeah. I still have it and I'm glad I, have it. Because if you go on Ebay, you're looking at three hundred and fifty bucks for a copy of that particular book. It's funny. The cars have gone up in value, but even some of the things like books and posters have gone up tremendously in value as well. But in the early nineteen nineties, I had a little bit of an epiphany where you have certain car guys who can just quote you facts and figures and just they can carry all. The information in their head about every portion of her bill or every BMW or every Ferrari or whatever, and I just realized I wasn't going to be that guy so I said, well, what can I do? Maybe I can focus on one car and really try to develop my expertise in one particular car and I said well, the nine seventeenth my favorite. So I'll concentrate on that since the early nineties I really tried to collect every shred of. that. I could find from a writing perspective. I did a fair amount of writing in the corporate world when I joined the Porsche Club in two thousand nine I started writing for our region newsletter here in the Pacific Northwest region called the Spiel and I did over forty feature articles for the Spiel before I sat down to do the books I'd had quite a bit of practice with that kind of writing. So when actually did sit down to write the Book on January third of two, thousand, seventeen I had a lot of information, a lot of experience going for me. So I think the writing of the first draft and then completing the book actually went pretty fast just because of all the prep work I know there are other projects in the automotive book space that go faster and I know there are a lot take much much longer than what we took on this book it sounds like you were able to. Take. Many many decades of experience and study in all of a sudden bring it to life within a short period of time advantage was I had a vision in my head, my other hobbies, music record, a number of albums of original songs that I've written. When you go to make an album, you sort of have to have an idea of what you want the finished product to be and with the book it was very much the same thing. I. Had A. Pretty clear idea of what I wanted to finish product to be I knew the structure I knew I wanted it to be chassis by chassis race by race. So it was already pretty well organized in my head and it was just a matter of pulling all the information together into some kind of a sensible narrative and also knew that I wanted to try to thread that needle between being a reference Book and a story book in the world of car. Books. Some books are really really great reference books and the authors are really concerned about getting all the information in there for posterity. But boy, they can be as dry as a piece of Melba toast. You need something to wash it down exactly and then there are great story books that are written about cars and automotive history that you can't really necessarily use as reference books at all. So I tried to go down the middle between those two and produce something. With a lot of good reference material, some of which had not been seen before had not been published before, but I was hoping people would actually read the book. So I tried to also make it readable the way it flows from one car to the next an within a certain chapter, how it goes from one race to the next my advice to people who buy the book is Read More Than One chapter at a time because there's a lot of information. There and if you want just read one race a time for that particular car, that's not a bad way to do it either can you tell us a couple of discoveries you made as you were writing the book I made it was there some stone you turned over and all of a sudden oh my gosh. Look at what's under this? Yeah. There were a few I didn't think that I was necessarily the greatest networker in the world, but I had some. Success networking amongst the owners and their representatives and previous owners of the car. Another person that we lost this year unfortunately as a guy by the name of John Thomas who was a great friend co-driver and wingmen for Otis, Chandler and Otis Chandler. Of course, was the owner of the Los Angeles Times and owned one of my cars the chassis seventeen, zero, zero four he owned it for many years, but he couldn't really fit in it because he was too tall. Guy His friend and his car guy adopted brother John Thomas is the guy who really drove it most often when they would either go vintage racing or just go play with the cars for fun and John was very enthusiastic about the book he loved that car and he would just go on and on about how much he loved it how much she loved driving it that particular car has an unusual tale unusual looking tail with unusual rear wheel arches in our facebook group we have been speculating for years and years trying to figure out where did tale come from why does it look so strange et Cetera et CETERA I. Managed to solve that one by talking with John Thomas directly because he had really been in charge of looking after the car for all those years that Otis owned it. So we were able to explain that one. Another one is the two cars that were purchased by Jerry Sutter field directly from. Porsche. In nineteen seventy, five, one of which is the car that ended up with Otis, Chandler. But the other one chassis sixteen that particular car there was little mystery around how much work had Porsche Don on those cars before they were sold and so actually having the honor of being allowed to use Jerry Sutter fields photo of the Two cars when they first came from Porsche, really solved all those mysteries about the fact that portion essentially did nothing to them. cosmetically course just got them built mechanically got them running, but cosmetically, they still had their nineteen seventy-one paint jobs. Chassis sixteen still had the orange roof paint scheme on it from Nineteen seventy-one at Watkins Glen where it had that livery, and of course, in the case of the car that went Otis Chandler where you can see that it did not have those strange rear wheel arches that later appear and still appear on the car. So that kind of stuff was really fun. I, like the detective work even. Though there wasn't that much detective work to do because these cars are so well known there wasn't too much in the way of mystery to uncover out but we uncovered and sorted out a few of the cars. Themselves would have been a whole heck of a lot more well known if we'd all been able to go to double beach this year because I know that there was a special class and you're instrumental in organizing that the good news is that it's going to happen next year and twenty twenty one. Can you tell us about what was planned at the concord elegance at Pebble Beach say that I was instrumental I? Was One person who did a little bit of lobbying and suggesting gently that maybe this would be a great year to celebrate the nine seventeen at Pebble beach because. It's The fiftieth anniversary of Porsche, winning Lamont for the first time and I thought we appropriate for Pebble Beach to celebrate that kind of a milestone and there's never been a class for the nine seventeen at Pebble beach before. So I was one of the people are not doing a little bit of gentle suggesting and was very nice of the folks that Pebble Beach to invite me to be a part of the subcommittee along with Ken Gross and Paul Hagemann to. Just sort of advise the selection committee in the background about the history of the different cars and which cars might be worth going the extra mile to try to invite to be in the class. Certainly, if it had happened this year, I think it would have been a very, very good display, very representative display on the history of the cars and hopefully knock wood. If we can all be out there next August, it'll still be a good and who knows maybe it'll be even slightly better display always a chance that one or two cars you know weren't available. This year might be available next year we'll just have to wait. and see but the nine seventeen is a car that matters and pebble beach is greatest car show. So actually when I was talking to Derek, Bell for my book, I had this crazy idea about bringing the nine seventeen to pebble beach and I asked Derek about it because been involved with Pebble beach a lot over the years and Derek sort of said, well, of course, we have to have the greatest sports car at Pebble, Beach Immune for him. It was like so no brainer. So I was happy about that. Well, there is much look forward to, and that'll be a great opportunity to celebrate the nine seventeen and your book. As, well, we should mention that the other things that were planned for Pebble Beach. This year are pretty mind boggling. So assuming it all comes together with a lot of the same content for next year, it should be an amazing event. It always is an amazing event. But when you talk about gathering previous best of show winners and featuring Pininfarina, those kinds of things will be I think equally great even though I'll probably be hovering over my nine seventeen very closely but I'll make sure to spend some serious time with you there. Maybe we'll have a follow up to this coversation Jay. Thanks so much for joining US thank you. Thanks to JJ Lodhi author wrote the book Gulf. For joining us today on cars the matter come back next time as we continue to talk about the passion the. In the passions. Who Dr. This episode of cars that matter was hosted by Robert Ross produced, by Chris, border edited by Chris Porter Sound Engineering by Michael, Kennedy theme song by Celeste and Eric Dick. Additional. Music and sound by Chris Porter please like subscribe and share this podcast Robert Ross but thanks for listening. Comb media. Media for your mind.

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Can I Buy a Porsche? (Hour 3)

The Dave Ramsey Show

40:33 min | 8 months ago

Can I Buy a Porsche? (Hour 3)

"Live from the headquarters of Ramsey solutions broadcasting from the dollar car rental studios. It's the Dave Ramsey show where that is dumb is king in Adolf on mortgage has taken the place of the BMW as the status symbol of choice. I'm Dave Ramsey your host. Thank you for joining US Open. Phones triple eight eight two five five two two five. That's triple eight eight two five five two two five. Caleb starts off this hour in Oregon. Hi Caleb welcome to the Dave Ramsey show up on my questions you his last Thursday. Somebody broke into our garage and stole a bunch of stuff and it turns out that it was the previous tenant and the complex in switch to locks My question is if this happened to you. Or what what kind of response do you think The complex she'd have for this. I mean we lost thousands of dollars and stuff so I'm has been recovered in police evidence and you can't get it back There's like our grandfathers tools have not been recovered while. And how do you know that the locks were not that this guy used a key It so it's the maintenance man adults on that they. They used to lease the ten or the garage and mandatory. They switch the locks manager. Told you all right and did you have insurance. We do have rangers insurance. I don't know how it works because the stuff has been recovered but the police could take you know tell. The case was settled before we can get anything back Okay well you talk to your insurance company about filing a claim for sure Well I I think I would sit down with the apartment manager and ask them How much of this? They were planning to cover. Since this is their fault we bought like three hundred dollars in security cameras. Syncing and In Our deductibles. Five hundred on the Renter's insurance so for sure it'd be eight hundred dollars out of pocket. Yeah but I mean I think they ought to start writing checks. This is just straight up negligence on their part. I think if you were to contact an attorney the attorney would probably tell you have an incredible case for for for a bunch of recovery. And probably some punitive. I mean that's just absurd. It was pretty pretty frustrating. The last thing pregnant wife needs to stress over his sons. Come back into our place and kicking stuff. Yeah so are the locks. The locker changed now right other teams now on the you know the people that we we actually caught the guy on cameras dealing packages from someone else the next night. So it's just a lot of fun right so the guys he's obviously in custody. I assume they haven't got him yet. He's been missing in action out. They'll get him because he's dumber than Iraq. Okay well yeah I think you sit down with department manager and And or their superior in just say Look I. I don't really want to sit down with an attorney but if you guys don't start getting a really generous over this really fast. I'm GonNa have to see what my legal rights are because this is absolutely asinine. You are so liable that you really ought to be just writing checks to keep me happy right now and I thought about it but I mean if I were on the other side of that if the landlord I would have already made you an offer her because this is their fault. I mean they screwed this up. Okay the number one. We got a maintenance man with a with a son who's a criminal and he and we didn't change the locks and he's a criminal has the key now. These are known things they know this kid. I know the kid had a key and they're so stinking lazy that they didn't bother to change the locks. That's just incompetence. Now you can be nicer than that. But that's where this stands so yeah. I think the first thing I'd always do is confront the person that you're dealing with You know and just say listen. Let's try to work this out Because you're just obviously very liable as you can imagine we are really really really angry about this But on top of that we're out a bunch of money and it's all your fault and so you guys need to you need to do you need to make us whole right here and so. I'm expecting you to cut me a check today for five thousand dollars to cover my trouble stuff that's gone and if you don't WanNa be you guys. Don't want to begin a discussion about that right now. Then that's going to force me to seek legal counsel and I don't really WanNa do that but I'm very angry I'm This is ridiculous and You know my yell at. You were cuss at you. You're just the manager but this is this is not okay and it's not gonNa go away without costing you money because you're liable on this and then just see what they say or you know. I'm you know they offer you a couple of grand. Take it and move on and go on your way because that's probably about all you're GonNa get after you fight about this but I I would You know if I were the landlord. I wouldn't give you ten grand okay but I would take care of your stuff that got stolen and I'd make sure that you know that the locker change and the cameras are done. Because it's my fault you know and sometimes we do stuff. That's our fault we don't mean for it to be but some people workforce aren't competent. Sometimes it's just your fault when that happens and you have to take care of it so yeah I would. I would be pretty aggressive about it. I'm not going to be mean to somebody not yelling and cussing stomping my foot and don't even have to be unkind but you do need to be very very very direct and And if they don't react to that and they say no we're not liable and say well I guess we'll have to find out and I would contact an attorney for some legal advice at that point. Tracy is with US IN MINNESOTA. Hi Tracy how are you dave? I'm well thanks for taking my call. Lots of a question about my mother in Law's finances you anticipated showed me long-term care in the next five or ten years. She doesn't have any long term care insurance and doesn't qualify due to the medical problem. She has no got lives on social security and pension. She'll be seventy this summer. She has forty thousand dollars in the bank. And I read places where people start taking that money And putting it in a separate account outside of her name So that when it comes to meeting long term care it looks like she doesn't have any money and would therefore qualify for the Medicaid services. I don't WanNa be a weasel about it. But at the same time if she were a qualify for long term care now should be put in private care and then after a couple of months or forty thousand dollars would be gone so we WANNA use wisdom. But I don't WanNa be own our own. The home she's living is she did not. She lives in fifty five plus community based on her income. I'll say okay. And and you all are not in like super great financial conditions yourself. We have about fifteen thousand last Baby step two You're not multimillionaire that you can start writing. Long-term CARE checks okay. We'll maybe but but for today you're not yeah okay What you can't do what you're talking about. A certain amount of cash is protected under the act for Medicaid And it changes each year. I don't know what it is this year. But any monies or assets transfer out of someone's name in order to qualify for Medicaid falsely is called Welfare fraud and they can look back to five years in undo it and they can criminally prosecute. So it's not just weasel it's criminal and so but there's a certain amount of cash she can keep in her name. You know one of the absolute best investments. You can make yourself if you're waking up in the morning dragging. You're not doing anyone a favor get the best sleep. 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My wife recently left a federal government job and she contributed six hundred dollars to retirement annuity. that was a requirement of of work in there She can't take distributions until she sixty two but we can apply her to Be refunded her contributions and I guess my question is should me when we applied a refunded? Should we have it added to the Emergency Fund or should we roll it into a rock? Ira You can't roll it unless they will allow you to do a lump sum and that's a lump sum distribution is different than a refund. Now they do have a option to roll it to roll it over to To An IRA that would keep you from having to pay taxes on it if you take it out. You're going to end up with taxes and penalties it post tax It's not a it's not just regular. 401k EX POST TAX No taxes or penalties correct. I'll take it out and use it for your emergency fund wonderful. Yeah just wherever you are on the baby steps and sounds like that's where you are right. Yes it is okay. Yeah your baby step three finishing your emergency fund any money and get your hands on without taxes and penalties. I would get my hands on and do that with it absolutely I do that. Hey thanks for the call. Steve is with us. And Steve is in California. Hi Steve. How'RE YOU Get Afternoon Days Some situation is that as my wife and I are both in our upper thirties. to Kids aged seven five right now Terms of life insurance we only have what we have through our employers and I'm looking to expand and get into an additional life insurance policy Situation is that my father in law is an insurance. Salesperson is really pushing us towards a life variable annuity products saying that. He feels that for our situation. Term doesn't really make sense. It's just kind of throwing money away when you can get a return when you have a whole life policy and just kind of wanted to get your opinion on how to handle this well The answer to the question is very simple but the relationship is not exactly. Yeah and we've had a situation in the past when we had bought our house and got homeowners insurance and had just bought it on mine and he wasn't exactly happy that we didn't at least go through him to try to get that we don't have a we have. Our relationship is fine otherwise it's just kind of bad situation of not going through. Him would would not be very comfortable well. The problem is that he sells crap. That's the problem What he's recommending horrible and Is the one of the worst financial products out there and so I would never do that. the answer. The question is would buy inexpensive term insurance from a broker that is the best price on the market. Like zander insurance and I would do my investing anywhere except inside of a stupid whole life policy. Because here's the problem. The whole life policy of course is about ten times fifteen times more expensive and then term insurance and the difference all goes into a savings account call cash value whether it's universal live our whole life or index universal life or whatever it goes into this cash value and the cash value has a very poor rate of return. It doesn't build it all for the first several years. Meaning they keep a hundred percent of your savings as fees and then when it does finally grow it grows at a horrible right of return but the worst part is when you die you only get the insurance. They keep your savings that you paid extra to create. And so if you've got a hundred thousand dollar whole life policy with a twenty thousand dollar cash value and you die. You've paid a lot of money. An extra above the cost of Insurance to create that twenty thousand dollars savings and when you die your wife gets one hundred grand. Keep the twenty traditionalist in so it's a horrible product. But that's you know you're GONNA have you're GonNa have all you can't just say that to your father in law. I would say party. It makes me wonder. Yeah it's just what he's he's been trained to sell that. Oh of course of he's been trying to sell it and there's only two kinds of whole life insurance just wants that don't understand how bad it is and ones that are the understand about? It isn't salad anyway. And I suspect he just blee respect he just drank the life insurance company kool-aid and never have sat down and looked at it and really understood. How bad a product that is. Here's the thing. No one in the entire financial world cells that crap except agents that sell that crap financial planners don't brokers don't know one in in no guru like me that's on the air. No one tells you to buy that. There's not you can't find a single person except people that sell it the believe in. That's how bad it is. It's not like it's up for debate. It's just bad so now having said all that. How do you handle your father-in-law with a boundaries issue because you've just got to be kind and gentle and not call him a crook right and yet somehow let him know? You're not going to be buying that that you've done research and you know you don't you. Don't go along with that You know my father-in-law who is one of the sweetest. Most wonderful man on the planet often votes wrong. But we get along anyway. You know what I'm saying. He thinks I vote wrong. But he's not GonNa talk me into voting on that side and I'm not GonNa talk him voting on the other side so we just love each other anyway and maybe you can draw that line with this and just say you know what I love you. You're my father-in-law and I want to respect you and so forth but But I am not comfortable with this product line and it's not the direction we're going to go and you're just GonNa have to be okay with that just like if he were a Republican and you said I'm going to vote Democrat. You're just going to be okay with that. I love you but we just disagree on this. You know. And if he can't then he has boundary issues right. But YOU'RE NOT GONNA get in a debate with him because you can't win the debate. Here's why if he wins the debate. You just have to buy some bad insurance. If you win the debate. He has to quit his job. Or be a crook and he's not. You don't WanNa win that debate. Let him come to those conclusions by himself so I would just say be kind and firm smile and make sure you and your wife are on the same page because her dad right and just go you know. I don't really want to do this in a way. That didn't hurt your feelings because I love you but I just don't agree with you on this product line and I'm not GonNa go that way and I hope you can understand that and hope you can my decision just like I respect your decision to continue to sell stuff that I don't agree with and we'll just have to be okay with that and you know I I still love. You still love me. But if he wants to It's just. It's probably one of the most difficult relational positions you being right where you are right now. If it was your brother you just tell them to jump in the creek you know. But you're father-in-law's tough right. That's hard so it's a very difficult thing to walk along and be kind and yet firm and draw clear boundaries. But no. I wouldn't buy that crap not a chance out by not under any circumstances it's garbage. This is the Dave Ramsey show. Christians have an affordable incredible way to meet their overwhelming healthcare costs it's Christian healthcare ministries. The original health cost sharing ministry a better business. Bureau accredited organization C. H. M. members share to pay each other's medical bills. It's not insurance. It's Christians financially and spiritually supporting each other. It's what she has done for over thirty five years learn more at C. H. Ministries Dot. Org that's the H. Ministries Dot Org Christian healthcare ministries is a proud sponsor of Dave Ramsey. Live Events Oh no thank you for joining US America. This is the Dave Ramsey show. Kayla is whether in Tennessee. Hi Kayla welcome to the show arms. Because what's up. Hey quick question so tomorrow my husband and I are paying off our last. That long payment now never paid off a student before. So we're make sure and doing this right Should we call the company and do are last payment and have make sure they're closing our account or should we just go ahead and do the online payment and become a bit online? Payment should be okay. That should wrap it up and then you could follow up the next week and make sure the account is closed up but it should show it paid in full Senate should do the submit button documentation or anything from his. Shouldn't need in. You know if you WANNA hit a screen shot or something and just save your screen. That shows zero. That wouldn't be a bad idea. I have not heard of student loans growing back after they were paid off. I have not heard anything like that. So congratulations how much have you paid off total total? Oh Gosh this is well. Our student loan thirty nine thousand dollars. We paid off our cars nine thousand dollars and we've got eight thousand dollars farmhouse. I'm actually paying off before I got married. So you're back on the house after I on. You're doing great well done very very well done. Thomas is with us in Alabama. Hi Thomas how are you good service that pleasure to speak with you you to what's up I I move every two years Oh my job and I had this mentality that mortgage that was a good idea About a year ago me and my wife got introduced to your plan and we went through the steps They went through the first step and I paid all my dad off in the second. Step the third step. We built up our emergency fund but I still have about three hundred thousand dollars in mortgage debt and I don't live in any of the homes actually rent now to try to save money but I was wondering Do I attack this mortgage debt With the debt snowball or I would just kinda impasse. I don't know if I should start my 401k and start putting money towards that and then throw the rest of the mortgage debt but not living in the home. I didn't know which way to attack it. Only own one property. I am thirty seven okay. How much equities in them Probably about fifty to sixty thousand dollars between all so you're not much wiggle room in these things now with the cost of sailing. I would maybe breaking and you're not making much money on them random. Either it's about seven thousand dollars a year now. Plus or minus no repairs plus or minus no vacancy so. You're not making much money on them. Yeah I just sell them. They're not a blessing their reliability. Okay so you would just look with data mall. Yeah you don't make any money on them. Okay why keep him? They represent risk really because they're not cash flow and I mean they're not really making any big money and you know if you had if you had a ten or fifteen thousand dollar item hit one of them. You're negative all of a sudden you gotta put a roof on water. Heating air on two of them or something. I mean you could you real easy. Get into negative on these things. You don't have much wiggle room and so yeah I I would just get rid That that's an easy way to looking at. I love real estate. But I don't want real estate. This leveraged like that. It's not fun. I want wiggle room. Lots a wiggle room margin baby margin. Tony's taxes. Hi Tony How are you wonderful day? Thank you for my wife and I have been following your advice for a number of years. Consequently of our houses pay it off the WHO Tommy out of debt way to go about. Thank you very nice. We live in debt. Free for about eight ten years. Probably What you're not worse. I would say I've got a one point. Four million and I are a city in my company. Four One K. I'm still working on the house. They say it's about About one hundred fifty thousand dollars in real estate but what I pay on taxes and stuff Or what they say. I gotTA pay taxes so my question. Everything's paid for everybody's happy. I got one point four million but I'd like to buy me a porsche since I'm sixty and I'm thinking about retiring. But the government says about taking him out. Of course they're GONNA tax. How best can I do this? I've got It's probably hot ride in the garage. I could probably about thirty thousand dollars. And then we've got about sixty thousand and checking savings so that's our current situation right now and this is totally a toy for me. Nothing I have to do is just something. I WANNA do Okay well I would have an emergency fund How how nostalgic is the hot rod in the garage? It's thirty one model a concern it's a customize Mon- lace I could probably sell it for about thirty thousand I said how in the style GIC is. And how much are you tattoo emotionally? Oh nothing no okay. It was just a goof off car. Okay exactly fun. That's cool so what year thirty one. Nineteen thirty one fourth mile lay. I love it. That's so cool man very neat and you can get. You could get thirty grand for that and you've got too much in your checking and savings you don't need a sixty thousand dollar emergency fund to you know every thirty day care. What's your emergency on? What's Your Fund Bay? Three to six months of expenses three months of expenses three months inexpensive. I would say that maybe ten thousand around there. Yes fifteen or something and you got sixty in there. So that's forty five and seventy five. So how much is the Porsche One? Thirty one thirty time. And and what's your household income? It's about one forty two one six depending I'm in sales so it depends on bonuses. I got you okay If I were in your shoes I would use the hot rod money and the money down to fifteen thousand out of the Emergency Fund. That's bloated And then I'd pull the balance out of your 401k Would you say in? Take a loan against the four one. I just pulled out pay taxes. You don't have a penalty on or fifty nine and a half you got you. You're not to pay taxes on it. And so you know you need about seventy grand. It sounds like ever take and so you're GONNA be pulling them out. Don't pull about one hundred out of okay but I would definitely do that all right. That's all that question. I was just wondering I didn't know what the taxes would be always hear about taxes. I always like feud that whatever your tax rate is what it'll be. I'm just guessing. Probably thirty thousand on you know on one hundred in taxes and that leaves your seventy to put with the other money. We've got to get the portion. That's that's fine. So because the core the Porsche's a very very small percentage of your net worth. It is a new car and yet you are millionaires. Almost two millionaire actually in your total net worth and So you hit all the right things to earn this car and To enjoy it and which which Porsche are you looking at the nine eleven okay? Twenty twenty nine eleven okay. That's a beast so wonderful car. Yes absolutely aim enjoy it. You've worked your butt off. Did you start out with money? Did you inherit a bunch of money? No out of high school. I was digging ditches. I was one of those. Don't pay attention school. You're GONNA dig ditches. Whatever with me so I worked my way up through a dish crew on a plumbing company and eventually became a plumber realized that was too hard work and say the money for college could be about ten years to graduate from college but I did have been in one cynical sales ever since and that's about twenty five years now so that's where I'm sitting right now so you didn't. You do not become worth two million dollars. Due to inherited money you earned every bit of it and saved it starting from coming out of high school good for you. Save your money because you can't pretend. Did they go? Get Your Porsche. You earned it every day millionaire. This is the Dave Ramsey show Our Scripture Today Matthew Eighteen twenty four where two or three are gathered in my name there. I am among them. In reports said coming together as a beginning. Heaping together is progress. Working together is success. Shana is with us in South Carolina. Hi Sean how're you doing well Thank you for taking my call. Sure what's up? I'm calling so my husband and I are finishing up baby. Step two But questions about three years ago before we got don't e- We offer mobile home for our first house. It's like a stronger. How soon with Attention the off and renting it out so no one nail how you feel about mobile homes Should I I guess. Should we go ahead and pay it off and Babysat to being a you know. It's not like Leo House or say that for baby step six well. It's not a matter of how I feel about them. That's not the point The point is is. What's good for you guys? Okay and the problem with mobile homes is is. They go one way down in value. Even if you've paid off it's going down in value if you bought one hundred thousand dollar mobile home in you paid cash for it. It's GonNa be Worth Fifty Thousand and twenty minutes and before you blink. It's going to be worth ten thousand right. Yeah Yeah I go. I go down in value when they go down in value. You know and so The longer you own something that goes down in value the more money you lose you understand so that that's the problem and show you know. How much do you guys are on this We paid about fifty on that now. Yeah I think the sooner you get it sold the better. Okay you go ahead and so now. Because here's the thing. If you own it five more years okay it's GonNa be worth twenty five okay So my question is obviously can't sell it for the fifty something we own We make money that it could easily be paid off in the next year and a half two years. Honestly trucking we have the balance or the difference about okay. Well if you sold it you'd be dead for even sooner than that If you borrowed the difference I mean what would itself for that? I'm not sure we're only back and forth with it. That would probably make up the difference That would require me. Cylinder property as well Do you want to sell the property not particularly but it would make it easier. Oh Gosh we're all right we'll give you a clean slate and you know if you can make it break even get out of there and then buy a house. It's going up in value and then pay that off okay. That's that's probably probably our best course of action. That's that's the way that ten years from today you end up with the most money okay. That's what it amounts to win. So let's pretend I'm acres. Are you on now? Not for anchors. Okay let's pretend you found a nice home. Traditional built home on a A five Acre tract that you could buy for one hundred and fifty thousand men you put that on a fifteen year fixed and you sold the one you've got for any break even and just get out. No you had to write a check but you don't gain money when you sell the current acreage you have and the and the thing and then you turn around you pay off the one hundred fifty thousand dollar home very very very quickly. Because you're able to do that. You've obviously got a great income. You can pay fifty fast. You can pile for one hundred and fifty you know fast and so then ten years from today you're sitting on something that's going up in value instead of something that's going down in value and all that time you've been on a better property anyway. Okay all right yeah. That's one thing we haven't quite put it together a lot but that makes a lot of sense thank you. It's just the problem is I'm afraid this fifty is going to turn into twenty five before you blink And I don't want it to go that way any further on you and that that's the problem. I've got with these things so hey thanks for the call open phones at triple eight eight two five five two two five. I got a friend of mine. Who's in the mobile? Ho- manufacturing businesses like Dave. Quit dredging us and I'm like I'm not trashing you I'm just saying I'm just looking at facts and I'm not mad about it. It's not like I'm snob about. I'm too good live in a trailer or something like that. That's not the point. The point is is it goes down in value and you know the the purpose of this shows help people get more money not less and so if you took seventy five thousand dollars and bought a you know a tiny little starter home in most areas. That's some areas you could get it for that versus seventy five thousand dollars in a trailer and a double wide ten years later. That seventy five thousand dollar home is worth whatever hundred hundred and something thousand dollars and ten years later? That seventy five thousand trailer is worth twenty five thousand and that's just the way it works and they don't go up in value so it's the same seventy five thousand dollars. So that's why we talk about this stuff this way. So good question appreciate you joining us. Jennifer is with us in Louisiana Hot Jennifer. Welcome to the Dave Ramsey show. Hi Dave thanks for taking my call appreciate it. Sure what's up Okay quick question. I've got I have to actually have three sons but two of them are in College. And we've accumulated about ninety six thousand dollars in student loans Who'S WE Well me and my excellent well you know they we. We did the student loans for me and my ex husband so It's not in your kid's name right. I'm the I'm the borrower plus while okay right right So what we want to do. Years Ago we bought some land and we were going to use the timber to pay for our kids college So whenever we divorced then I started doing the student loan and Then recently I just realized because he used to take care of all this but then I realized that we were being charged like six point two five to seven and a half percent interest on. They've ever since two thousand fourteen when these loans started so. I WANNA get those. You know. Try thought about consolidating and getting cheaper interest rate but then you know we decided well we you know it might be best just to go ahead and pay those off so money to pay them off or you're gonNA sell the timber now. No while I mean we just. We just cut timber a couple of years ago and he. My ex-husband reimbursed himself for the portions that he paid for my oldest son's college but So we won't have another cut on that land. You know for probably about another two or three years. I do have You know in in stocks and stuff. I've got probably about Five hundred and twenty thousand dollars right now and then in emergency fund Savings Account. I've got about sixty thousand dollars and I watch as well. It's ninety six thousand dollars that we were going to split it. Forty thousand forty thousand a piece of you guys. Both of your names on all of them. Yes my name is our them as a borrower in and your ex husband is willing to put in his forty five. Yes because that's what we've agreed right now when you put it in right now. So as he got the money to put in his forty five right now yes he did. Pay It off tomorrow. Okay off tomorrow. This was stupid. You need to get out of your life as soon as possible. Yeah I just didn't know you know I was Kinda worried about. I wouldn't be worried about any. That'd be worried about being attached to my ex husband at the hip for ninety six thousand dollars. Pay It off tomorrow. You got the money in your checking account to pay your part right. Yeah and I mean I guess that's all it's it's hard to let go of that money when I'm trying to say five hundred thousand dollars in stocks. Why is it hard to let go of forty five thousand dollars? I understand is that it's it's I guess it's kind of a fear thing. It's I'd be afraid of what you're doing because it's stupid. It was stupid to do it in the first place. And it's been really stupid. Let it go on this law. I'll get that crap paid off tonight. Write the checks tonight both. Un gets him out of your world. Good Lord he's your ex husband. That's the point. My goodness no way. Now that puts this hour of the Dave Ramsey show in the books our thanks to James Childs our producer. 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22 - Freeman Thomas - Part 2

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22 - Freeman Thomas - Part 2

"From comedian. This. That matter. Welcome to cars, matter I'm Robert. Ross this episode. We're continuing our conversation with Freeman. Thomas, design, career included stints with Porsche Volkswagen Audi Daimler Chrysler Freeman let's get right back into it. Chrysler must have been a fascinating place to explore sort of the conductor role, as it were putting together teams and getting people inspired and excited about your vision. You went from there to Ford. Is that right? Yes, so, what happened was I got a call from Jamie's one day and he says Hennard fisker. Just quit. You don't get. It was running the studio in Irvine at that time, and so he said I would really like you to take over his role, which was advanced design, and so that was a no brainer for me, because I knew a lot of the team there and so I joined Ford and at that point it was North American advanced design which a grew later in yours to global advanced design where we had the small studio in London in Soho called. Called Genie! We have a studio in Shanghai. In also in Dearborn in the cellar of Dearborn I retired in twenty seventeen at the end of two, thousand, seventeen. I was eligible for retirement. I'm only sixty two now so for me. It was a opportunity really to go to the next level of we really would. I WanNa do and work much more entrepreneurially, but I love Ford loved the people there because they were a little bit more fluid. They sought a little bit more out of the box. Chrysler I think. Maybe it's different now under Fiat organization, but before it was much more structured. Not that Ford isn't structured. There's so many amazing things that came out of Ford that you have to ask yourself how and why in Aura and lot of it is that it does allow a lobby entrepreneurs to go on in the people are amazing, dealing with leadership in coming up with new concepts in getting feedback and things like that are amazing, and so I'm still have a great relationship with all of them a at sort that's an incredible career trajectory, obviously a love to talk about what your future plans are your present and future plans. Yet well I consult now and one of my clients is roof automobile and so I, did two cars for them actually three back in between Chrysler and Ford small break I did the three for them, and then I did the new CPR for? In Estonia and then the SDR which now are getting production, NYPD those are amazing cars at the complete far into the supercar spectrum in an amazing company that is certainly well known to Porsche enthusiasts. But roof remains kind of best kept secret in the bigger arena in. Quite a couple of important designs, and they're actually seeing some certainly the original yellow bird, even the contemporary design. You're seeing big up in some of the recent auctions zip become very hard. Absolutely in really. The CPR has been something that I've talked to alouine Estonia about since the early two thousands, and I think they had to get a lot of other things out of their heads I and finally the day came Mike would sit down with them and I. would sketch out a platform strategy for them. You know using either aluminum, extrusion or carbon tub and show how you could do a family vehicles, basically by using the same tub, and so the time came where alloys. Alloys was ready, so I went over there, and started taking body panels, and chopping them up and mocking up a concept, and then eventually we got the clay model up running and beheaded great colleague to work with on that from the past is is names, air overs, and there is a clay model or math, Mahler, and also grayer creative in his own right, so it was very great to collaborate with Eric, and so we came up with the idea of widening the door by thirty millimeters aside, and you know this a scary stuff because you're looking at. It's almost like hot rod territory, taking two four and and changing one millimeter of a line. Everybody notices with. And so we had two things we want to preserve with the car was that it didn't exceed the overall length of the original CPR and that it was also identifiable as the pure evolution of that car. Who so again? It's kind of putting my hat back onto concept one days of really kind of looking at a an icon in its own right, so we did the thirty millimeters aside a magically the original roof which we flushed out the. The glass and it's the same roof, and it's the stained glass, except for the recorders which are intakes and all of side, and made the car look as though that it went to the gym and you look at original nine eleven. The doors looked anemic. Literally now you put a little shoulder on them, and they get a little more substantive well. Yeah, and because we're looking at a vehicle that's about the width of a nine five nine. But yeah, we did want to look like that kind of wit, so by developing the fender flares and developing the front rear language, which we wanted it to be pure evolution. Awesome, the original CPR so what we found was little nuances like for instance, put the original Bonnet on it, and now all of a sudden, we had room to develop defender form, so it wasn't pinched against the shot line of the hood. And so now we can make a little bit more voluptuous and bring it out and blended into the doors, and now in the back where the inner coolers were. We had the room for the inner coolers. Ads where normally we would have had to figure out how to pack that those things in, but now you had the extra internet hats on either side right like a nine, nine, three, nine, five nine, where they brought the whole back end out. That's right, and they came back into the that original door section, in I'm amazed that we never did it on nine five nine, because helmet boss did not want to change that door, but I think had he opened it up. It would have been a better car and so for myself if I think about all the years that I've been around nine eleven's coming from childhood with Jeff swore all the way fast forward to working at Porsche our group. Being around the faithful around this thing, but having my own mindset around it I, think the car has created this perfect blend of future, but at the same time most casual observers would see the one car in one room, and that car in another would not know the difference. That's the magic of great design continuity. The difference between the two cars is the new cars. Cars full, Carbon Tub with push rod suspension the latest in any lock braking and traction control and everything else. After we finished driving the car in Lindo in Italy, we drove it all through. It'll I was allowed to drive all the way packs you Switzerland through Germany back to roof and fastened allison and I'll tell you that cars got about seven hundred fifty horsepower untapped. Weighs about twelve hundred kilos and at high speed and acceleration. Only thing could equated to would be a jet yet manual gearbox. All possible worlds maintaining some analog experience because that's really what makes driving couple lives. Well! That's one of the things that I talked to looseness stony about all through the last fifteen years that the experience of keeping the car and analog experience, because the rest of the world is going to a digital experience, and there's a backlash coming off of that in one of the backlashes is that Porsche went all PDK until there was a backlash with their enthusiast and they finally decided well. We're going to do one thing. It's gotta be called. Nine eleven are working to build a limited production, GONNA manual boxes, and they sold out immediately. That's right, and so all of a sudden now they are smart enough to listen to the enthusiast. Enthusiast one side and say okay. We're GONNA. Come out with manual version. There's GonNa be a manual version of the nine to and come up with their GT floors, except for maybe a car like a GT to are asked, which is all about the numbers, and it's all about the track right? Yeah, it's different. Being analog is something that still has value today. It absolutely does with right Freeman I wanNA talk about poor shirt, because that's where the passionate probably the brightest I know that when we met way back when you were just about ready to launch into your, our group talked to us about what the art group is all about. Okay, well the are group really started in nineteen ninety nine, but it was really if you think about the beginning of the ninety s, the movement on early nine eleven's especially if you look at Northern California and Southern California. Had A lot of friends that were taking early. Nine eleven's like my friend Raleigh Reseau. People like that that created sports purpose aspect to their nine eleven it at that point. Early nine eleven's. Weren't that expensive? You rely on nine eleven s for about fifteen thousand dollars. And nine eleven, t even cheaper than that you by basket cases and so forth and so sports purpose was really about taking your nine eleven in doing the factory modifications for sports purposes in so if you go back my history with it, really kind of goes back in the nineteen sixties, growing up in southern California around nineteen, sixty, eight, sixty nine, and my neighbor was jeff's work, and so Jeff's dad had a I think it was chassis number, thirty, five, ninety one. It was a dark blue, think was volley blue, and had a black vinyl interior with houndstooth clock, and by nineteen sixty eight. His Dad had already put nine eleven wheels on. It lowered the car. Taking the original engine out built a nine eleven s back. Motor put into. It had bursch exhaust had sports seats Senate in essence. It was the movement of making your Porsche. Nine eleven batter up to date in the value. You didn't care about the value because it was used car. That's right. They were all used cars until the ninety s kicked in. Yeah, and I remember in the seventy S I mentioned when I was near I I will visit auto farm, and places like that and those guys were already doing stuff in so by the nineties. You know I, had a friend Bob Wake and Bob had a kind of a tope colored nine eleven. and. He put a nine eleven sc law block in it forty six millimeter. Weber's put a hundred liter tank in the front with Centerfield. Nine seventeen still early. Ricardo rallied Senate and he asked me. Hey, you think you could do a graphic design for the car. Yeah, you've sketch something up because it was this kind of really mouse grey warm gray was kind of like a stone, grey or something like that, but not as exciting a stone. Great you. Much more on the San side of fusion stop. It's so what I did was I designed this graphic. This is an early nineties with fluorescent red bumpers with flak. Delete stripes on it put shell sticker on the side of each sought flank, put early porsches script on the side, really basically brought into focus because the influence of the early portion nine. Oh, sevens, nine, six, nine, seventeen, the early before they got too flamboyant, were basically influenced by military aircraft. If, you look at a name, the plane it would have. Maybe it would be gray, and maybe just the rudder in the back would be arrested read, and it would have their logo on it, and it was very absolute functional. You look at the nine seventeen prototype. It would be all white with just the green band on the front. That was brush painted. In so kind of took that approach to it. And by Nineteen, Ninety Nine, there was a magazine Article in Excellence magazine about Chris. Fargo's and his brothers in northern California, and he had a nine eleven asked. All why he deleted everything out of it, rally seats and early script on the side and I had a sixty nine nine eleven e that I had a to a twin plug in it, and I had early ours our seats in it lightweight seats in started deleting everything out of that and I thought. Wow, here is a like minded soul, and so I got his phone number from Pete's doubt, and I called him up and night started chatting with him, and we hit it off right from the get go, and we started brainstorming about this thing in what we always say. We didn't invent this thing what we did was we created the forum for that? That sort of held this thing in a bowl and made people have a place that would be able to express their creativity in sports purpose in the same way that the old hot-rodders after the war did the same thing in Michigan in southern California across America, right and Gary. emery started the brief six outlaws, and I was friends with Gary, and so we wanted to do this for the nine eleven group shore, and so we brainstormed, the name came up with the name I designed the logo I collaborate with gentlemen, Kevin, beard, who started Pelosi shoes? And Kevin and I were good friends and actually came up with the name Pelosi for him in my garage. He won't tell you that but wow. But anyways, so we collaborate on the logo and finalized it, and that became kind of our shields are brand or mark you say in so we put this first meeting together to as Machen, taller conqueror, which was in Fullerton, and we had Chris and his buddies come down from northern California with their early nine eleven's. We had all of our guys from down here. We already started putting numbers early numbers I think we had about altogether maybe about twelve fourteen. Fourteen numbers, so we came up with this philosophy for the group, and the thought was again kind of coming back to Steve McQueen of this idea of the attitude of Steve McQueen, was this kind of discreet nest and a Miltie that that character Steve McQueen sort of put on, and if you look at all the background of anything that was done with Steve McQueen, weather was clothing. The vehicles were as movies. The lines at he spoke. It was always edit. And that was what we wanted our group, and so what we did was we gave Steve McQueen the member number, zero one, and then add muck and taller. We got together, and we looked at this thing and said what is this thing? If it's a lot of early, southern California, hot rod based on. It's got have that look gotta have that attitude, and then Porsche sports purpose, which was the main part of the Porsche that authenticity of it has to function has to work. It has to make it perform better. It has to do all of that and the guy is in. The gals at that joined our group. Really were about this. It gave them this voice and slowly built, and also at the first meeting of Macintosh had built, Michener showed up right and milk wanted to become a member, and so we said we will give you an honorary membership. What number do you want and says I want my race number zero zero. Two. Zero Zero. All the FREEMEN WE'RE GONNA take a quick break. We'll be right back. If you're like us. You're looking for a way to make stay at home a little more special will. We're going to let you in our secret. Join Rob. To get luxury cocktail kits, toys, tools, tech, and other incredible items delivered straight to your home on a monthly basis. The value was incredible. Your first box is going to be four hundred dollar to kill a curation, and you can sign up for as little as ninety nine bucks a month. Use The code podcast, and you'll save an extra fifty bucks at sign up so to rob vices dot com to bring exciting experiences safely to your door for member. Use The code podcast and go to Ro. BB, v I C E. S DOT com. Welcome back to cars batter, Thi- Robert. Ross and I'm joined by Freeman Thomas. Now it's a limited number of membership so to speak. Is that Right Raymond? HOW MANY NUMBER SH! Well we have three hundred worldwide, but there are many more members than that, but there's only three hundred numbers. Basically what has to happen is numbers got the be released before we put in another number now. I'm not actively involved personally with your group. Fortunately I have a voice and I've been asked what my role should be in the group, and it's really what I've enjoyed is being more a philosophical role in kind of behind the scenes in a voice to kind of architect the group, so it's SORTA sustains it. In its authenticity, and we have members of the group at Porsche in the studio Porsche that are part of our group. We have many people around the world and Australia in Europe and Asia heart of our group, and it really created a movement way for the things that you see now. We'll talk about those medic because I'm sure you've got some opinions. Yes, you absolutely did plant the flag, preserving the hot rod, Spirit, and keeping the early nine eleven blame. Allies were such amazing cards well and again I'll say this again. We didn't invent the culture to go back into the sixties and Seventies. You look at Bassett Kholak. You look at Steve McQueen you look at personal modified cars, you go to the dealerships you go to owners, especially in southern California or you go to Europe, and you'll see a period nine eleven with safari lights on the hood and purpose. You know it was there for better. Lighting back performed better handling, and now it's become a look that's right. That a real good straps and external engine hinges would be designed statement now. Yeah, exactly and every year. We have what we call a Trafton this year. Unfortunately, we can't hold it because of the pandemic. Will have it next year, and we had Chris Vargas passed away earlier this year, and so that really sad, but the thing is that the strengths of what we started together will go forward and the people that we have running our group of people like Ray. Crawford like that are really strong about not themselves, but about the group. And that's really what it's always been about in a really goes back. When I was Porsche, I would see something like bought or Peter Falk or Metzker, and they were so humble. They were so discreet in the background of a conversation, but you knew who they were. But. They weren't taking every photo op. They didn't have to put a sandwich. Sign on and say I'm the guy that designed this engine. Yeah, they didn't get into a photo operating all black interior with straight loss, they were the genuine article, and that's all I ever wanted for. Our group was to capture that. Is there an old nine eleven in your garage right now? I do I've had a few. The one I have right now is I've got a seventy two side fill nine eleven tangerine original paint I've got the deep sevens. All the way around with x w axes lowered its God's early St seat. Senate with three hundred millimeter factory wheel, Scott a great attitude sport exhaust. We just came back last year on a loop of California just drives like knew what a fantastic I'm closing my eyes imagining that car right now i. I think not to bring up a sore point, but I think you. And I were at a car show each showing some cars many many years ago and I think you had tangerine nine eleven at the time, but unfortunately didn't make it home. Sorry to bring that one up, but we're able to rebuild at Kara frame. Yeah, actually we did was I talked to Alice. Ruth in Allie, says let's ship to Germany. And we shipped the car to Germany and fortunately. The damage look worse than it was so once we took off defender in the front bumper, and so forth we found that the amount of damage was minimal on the left front, and so what we did was I had just finished it I know you did and being a designer and an enthusiast. Good enough you know, and so when it was at roof, we took it down to bare metal. Absolute Bare Metal, and I was able to all the upgrade on the car, going through chassis, stiffening all of the stuff, going through perfectly done in bare metal, and then we decided not to put any under code on it, including the interior, and so it was just staffan, black underneath with every piece on the car was beautifully restored, and then I had our sevens. Around with Dunlop race rubber, a have had an original nine eleven are exhaust that we put on. You came out amazing and I had that until a few years ago and then had a opportunity to sell it for good number and decide to sell it and go to the next project. That is fantastic is sounds like humpty. DUMPTY got put back. Together are more interesting in pristine way than it ever existed from new. You know it's amazing that this mark that we love so much has had so many incredible. Spirits behind it once they leave the factory. They've really sort of only just begun their journey. And that to me is what makes the Porsche legacy so very very special they relieve created a community of enthusiasts and owners and custodians that I. I can't think of any other mark on that. No, they really are such that way in special also because fortunately. The knows some members of the Porsche family and they're very much the same way. They're very down to some of the youngest members that their car people suzy's but at the same time they're very conscious of the future in sustainability and environment, and all of that it's it's a very complex mix that really going into a corporate machine doesn't mix well because when you go into. Into corporate machine people are always looking for the bottom dollar, profitability and things like that, and really not looking at who their customers, and so porsche is actual in the way that it's still listens to the customer, even as it goes into electrification to get the accolades, and the endorsements of some of these people like a Hurley Haywood or Walter role or people like that. They need to create a pretty incredible machine in, so they have maybe one foot still in that nine eleven pure world, and they have one foot into the future world. They WanNa make sure though as they go forward that they are careful not to do it just to be doing it. Because the Volkswagen group is a large group, have Volkswagen to do certain things. You have other parts of the Volkswagen group like Scotto or stay out. That can do things right names that we don't know in America got begun on the other end I mean they really. Spectrum and Lamborghini. Bentley! Each one of those marks needs. They have a little bit of a rotating door of people that go in and out of those places that sort of go round. The votes I grew up Porsche out of all of those groups remains uniquely special, because it is what it started. Kind of still is what Ferdinand Porsche. He was so much into technology in future in performance and engineering excellence, and all of that and kind of combining that together into an enduring object. It's real endearing environment or you go into the Porsche Museum for instance, and it's an experience of its own. You know it's well done I go online and I'm looking on one. End I'm looking at the history something on the other end of it. I'm looking at the restoration service that will do anything from restoring your whole car all the way down to doing the service on your car or repairing certain parts of it. That's a unique company. That will still do that right it. It reminds me of I had an amazing technician mechanic, who sadly still alive still active, but you will only work now for one person. A comedian and I I found here way before this, and during those years he would service my nine eleven. Me As enthusiast and my wife song-chol had a nine twelve who only nine twelve new. Because someone told him it was a better Volkswagen. Great and he would take that car with the same amount of dedication and knowledge, and it would come back perfect and to me that is that Porsche gene. There's just so many shops and people that have taken it into fashion area, rather than into a philosophy and substance. Well I. think that's really beautifully. Put in with that philosophy in that approach I think certainly the cars and the future of the marker are in good hands. Freeman one last thing before you go. I like to ask all of our guests. If a genie popped out of a bottle and said you can have three cars what they be. Oh my gosh. That is such a difficult question because I. Look at it always reshuffling the deck in your always having to sell something to buy something, these are free, and you not only get a genie. You get three extra parking space. Yeah, yeah I mean I love the early nine love love love love the early nine eleven and I think that one of the experiences I would love to have would probably be a sixty seven nine eleven s soft window. Targa or I love those two cars I. Think they'd be perfect. The second car if I had a more modern car I love, the new roof or the new singer I think I would have something like that and built to my design specs. I would be very particular about how to do details inspecting and everything else on those cars. And then the other car is something much more elemental and I already have one. It's a caterer ham super seven. Early one so it's really pure aluminum body. Bare aluminum and with a British racing green knows and flying fenders I love driving that car. That is an amazing Dr, isn't it? I've had a chance to drive a few of them in their absolutely revelatory. Yeah I think everybody should at one time own a Super Salvin, because from that point you reference everything else, and it's you really don't want to drive a car like that on the freeways you drive it in the canyons. Drive down the coast. It is about minimalism, and it's about the smallest cabin that you possibly have literally and I just love that the togetherness that you feel in that car. So. I think that would make a nice combination of the Coles. I'm always designing something. And I tell you it's kind of like a popcorn machine every single day every single hour. I'll start on idea and kind of bring it up to fruition, and by the time I bring it up to fruition on board, and I'm GonNa go to the next one. You know, so it's the way it is. That's the mark of a true designer, and obviously you are. You're one of the few. Thank you so much, thank you. That is a great trip sector. Early kind of speaks to a sense of purity that I think the best designers have appreciation. Her elemental things kind of like that whole roms, notion of simplicity and minimalist, no embellishment that kind of thing. Yeah, there's a magazine that comes out of Japan called garage life. With that part of it I haven't seen it. Will look it up and what it is is. It's mostly in Japan, but there are lots of enthusiasts that have beautiful architectural homes that are very simple. They're not big, but somehow the car is part of the house it is. The difference uses either loading enthusiasts or doozy's or enthusiastically. The Japanese are so good at identifying icons in really synthesizing an icon down to the purity of why we love the like most of the cars that you see. There are stock in original. and. There's a beauty that in the house you'll see just a simple home. The done out of concrete with maybe a mezzanine above, and you have a Adidas uh-huh Braun System on the wall and you'll have it ends chair, and just the artwork is perfect minimalism. The lighting is perfect, and it's just about simplicity and I think a life moving forward. People are going to be reminded about simple things. Right I think especially now more than ever the appreciation of less things, but better off than. Yes. Yes. Quality, not quantity. That's right. Yeah, it's really a great conversation Freeman. We'd love to have you back on the show. There's so much talk about I think. We probably just scratched the surface of not only your ideas and your visions about design, but some of your thoughts on some of your favorite karst. Thank you so much. Thank you Robert. Thank you for having me. Thanks to today's guest Freeman Thomas for joining us from back next time as we continue to talk about the passionless drivers in the passions we drive. Off. 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We this is a very Porsche heavy episode. Yeah. Now, you know, I love my Porsche k Porsche is one of my all time favorite. I think she is hilarious. But I don't need this Mets Porsche. Okay. This is still an ensemble show. So yeah, what does everybody else doing? I this. Actually, this whole episode was a little weird feeling to me. It was if felt kind of I dare I say scripted it felt very producer felt very produced. It felt very much like we were seeing scenes. The producers were like, hey Marlow. Why don't you? Go upstairs and take portions room or hey, Porsche. Why don't you like why don't you get mad at Dennis about him going out drinking like it just things did not really feel organic to me felt like people were performing for the cameras, which this show does have. A tendency to do there that that definitely happens on Atlanta. But it was felt strong a real strong sense of that this episode was weird. I don't know. I feel like they're they're getting their sea legs still there's recalibrating now that charade and Kenya or God. And I don't I really don't know what's going on with this cash right now. I don't think they do either. Because they're like, maybe we should just stop me friends. And let's just let's just do a hard reset down your power. But then you're volume for ten seconds until the shit just starts over. Because I think that they're kind of freaked out about it. But I laughed the whole time this show is the one of the best making me laugh. I was cracking up the entire time. But also with Borsa this trae this relationship, she's in such a fucking train wreck. Yeah. There's nothing about it that looks. Okay. It just looks like danger. Yeah. Like this guy. Looks more fucked up than ceelo. I mean, he looks like CBO, but he's like always completely fucked up, you know, like on some kind of meds like, I don't know. He looks like giving Ross looks like. Yeah. And like it's just everything about it says why danger? Okay, man, like how many hotdogs could demand possibly sell out of those little tracks? I know like I I agree red flags all over this guy. This guy is like the beach on a windy day nothing but red flags, I don't know. Why said that Ramona voice? But yeah, I agree. Like, this is this guy. First of all the biggest red flag that he has no personality and the only time that he was able to express a modicum of personality as when she used him of like going out and being shady out in the club, or whatever. And then he like smiled and for the first time ever he smiled and then like me. No. But yeah, I say I hard pass heart pass on Dennis. Yeah. And Porsches that friend. We all have he's like. He's the one it's going to work, John. No, you're just so wary. So desperate to be with somebody cut it out. Yeah. You deserve better. What happened to hot? Todd. What happened the hot Todd? Yeah. Bringing well he was poor. You know, which is why she wouldn't even be with him. But don't you want someone who's poor? And and this has just loaded which is well, here's the thing. I think I prefer someone who is poor and hot over someone who is like fake, rich and not hot. Well, that's the thing with people like this. You can't just say, okay. Let's show each other Bank accounts, which I'm sure at some point they're going to have to do. Yeah. But yeah, I think that she is nervous around him. Actually. I don't think that she's herself. I think that he really likes her. He's successful enough. And I think that she just see someone that she wants a lockdown down, and she doesn't wanna mess up. So basically the episode opens up with last week's cliffhanger was he gonna get her. A ring, of course, not the boxers do big. Instead, it was a Rolex is like. True. So whatever big letdown, I guess for her not for us. But so after she's still got a Rolex and private chefs and staff, and so the private chef brings them some up some fried shrimp, and then she's like porn eating her fried shrimp, which you know, some food is very sexy. And I get when you're trying to be sexy with your feet, France. Trump is not one of those. Now, that's not sexy. She's swallowing. Brett, you're swallowing crunchy bread in one swallow, you're gonna choke to death. Well, she also is wearing this strange dress. That's like C three PO on top. And then like cocktail dress on the bottom and she like just clearly never worn it before. 'cause she's like. Like, choking her and everything. And she like hash like shell. Twenty minutes. Yes, she calls over the waitress. She's like excuse me. Can you? Little bit. I'm like of all the things that Porsche does. That's the moment that she wants to be modest. Afraid to say that out loud that she needs zip. I'm also also I also appreciate it when she goes. Well, it's safe to say, I'm no longer a baby vegan like that's a shocker. Nocco laugh terribly long. But I was impressed that she knew that shrimp is in beacon. You know, so Porsche takes baby steps you now baby steps baby vegan. Now, why did this shifts serve the steak and then say, okay, this is on the boat apetit. That mean did he mean, okay? This is on bone apetite. I don't know. I don't know about it. And I was like why am I why am I paying so much attention to this? So then. Yeah. She. Dress Porsches sitting there. So she finally gets like unzip little bit. She's from her dress. And then she's like laughing about how she was talking to knee. And she's like, oh my God. And he's so crazy, and he was like what school? Did he go to? Where's he from? What does he do? And I'm like, oh my God. Like, I don't know. Because I haven't asked us questions because I just want to like enjoy my man, you know, like blank stare blank stare. That's I was like. I was like, sir. That was her way of asking you all three of those questions, you should answer them now because she's too afraid to ask them herself milk because she just excuses him for not answering them. She's like, I I know that the girl who would answer those questions it's probably sitting some way right now without a private chef. But that's like bullshit like, whoa. Someone who's gonna like ask him some basics about his background is like not gonna continue further on this journey with Dennis. Like, that's bullshit. Like, you should be able to ask those questions and not pretend like like, you're not asking them when you really ask them through the Niimi. You know? Yeah. And then force this is so poor. So the lady comes to clear plates imports. Just like, Honey, we're saying this room just wrap those up like you want these both wrapped up Renton built that. Inbuilt that well and the jazz one they're like eating like that steak, and then she's like, hey, baby. Can you feed me this last piece of steak, which is like so bizarre? He gets up and like feeds her piece of steak is this supposed to be romantic or just like extremely Xenakis on. Yeah. It's gross. Like I wanted to after watching the scene. It was like twenty courses. I know. And then after all that he wants to go out to the club. I'm like, wait. She's dressed to she's dressed undress. You're gonna you're gonna go to the club now. Yeah. She's like I want to turn out this diamond in the bedroom. And plus drink is still be here. Okay. So she just lays on the bed, and I guess they bone steak bone. I dunno sounds gross to me. Exactly. So then we go over to knee, and she's at her she's at the initiatives, but a soft launch and Nina's leg. I'm like a serial entrepreneur, I star stuff and never even tell people because I think that's very important to move in. Silence. Yes. No better way to launch a business. Then by not telling anyone about it. That's really that's really like marketing one and one make sure no one knows. Yeah. She's like, you know, it's very stressful. The to open the business take, you know, still got sons, you have no jobs. You know? I'm just trying to keep my weight above the water. Which I liked it. And he's like, okay. My season is gonna be wig jokes. And I'm cancer sadness gay. I'm committing to this. Well, they balance each other out nicely. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so four Shan Dennis back to portion Dennis again. I have a question what our needs other businesses. I guess we just don't I guess I shouldn't even ask because she already explained her business model to us being silent. She's like, she's like, my business model is a fart silence deadly. So portion Dennis back to them Porteous which got on what you got to dance wetter. You you you look basic today. What do you think we're doing today? Babe, babe. What that babe babe? Another get a break, they pay at the bay bracelet. Mike. Oh my God. You can say babe over and over if you want to but that doesn't make this relationship. Okay. Okay. I know I think it's actually odd that there's like a second piece of jewelry like the next day. I don't know. I I don't think he's paid for either these things I think are loners and at war they're fake or their stolen. I don't know. Like this guy total con artists. Yeah. Because now it's like a diamond necklace. Right. I wrote look if we if she was actually wearing about hot dogs that had to be sold to buy these things. I mean, she'd be like under a hill of hot dog. That's a lot of hot dog out of hot dogs. And then she's like oh beautiful. I wanna else in your toothbrush. And unarmed shave at the thank you. Imagine it just like shows up Atlanta. Tiffany's box like a little degree degree stick. But he does he goes down to the gift store and brings her stuff back, and she's like, shaving your pits over the sink. And then she's like, I just want your toothbrush, minus tear soft. I have a big mouth look at these tea. I need a heart. You've read frame of years, and he's like, that's gross. Yeah. Also, soft toothbrushes the way to go. Hello. You're gonna ruin your Amel. Oh, no. That's a lie. Hard thresh brush my teeth is so white and Pearleen gorgeous. And I have no gums left. You need. My teeth are white. Neither way we're really burning to lead. Which is that. Yes. As you mentioned, she uses Dennis toothbrush toothbrush. Every time. She goes over to his house, which is viral. That's like horrifying horrifying yell. It's really really gross. So in the van all the girls are coming to see her and into secret to scene in it. Yeah. And Marlow is like ho- even here you get invited. Why would you be by the diva and even like, well, I got invited for the diagnosis? You know? So you know, I got invited because she was telling me about Greg's diagnosis. Well, I got an invite. We that's crazy. The Porsche would invite me and Portuguese. I'm not a petty person. And definitely not one to hold onto things like a toothbrush. I I hold on to flush. That's biology statuses. So. And by the way Porsche, yes, we're extremely petty. You can't be on this show without being petty is the real housewives of Atlanta. Okay. Petty petty petty Betty, so meanwhile, we then go back to portion Dennis and portions decided for some reason she's gonna start a fight. And like it's edited in inversions way where she's like. So what are you laughing? What are we doing? And he's like, oh, my friend came back, and I wasn't drunk. That's crazy. I was like what is this fight about? Okay. This fight was because he wouldn't let her use the toothbrush. And she said, oh, really you wanna have a fight right now. We're toothbrush because we're going to do it. And he's like, whatever, you know. He's like lifeless over there. He's just like a lump of hot dog. So she's like, okay fine. Where were you? If you know them use your toothbrush. I'm gonna ask you where you wear start asking you all these questions of wit you. She actually said she goes, you literally want to do this over toothbrush. So then she tells us I was supposed to keep the crazy in crazy. It's not crazy to be with your boyfriend the trip, and he just disappears for hours and hours at a time and says he's going to be back in an hour. That's and I like that like the using his toothbrush is not part of the letting the crazy out like she's so concerned that she's asking him. We're like crazy ask where he is. And yet she's not concerned at all about using his brush, I no, no kidding. And she even says, she's like, you know, I just don't ask him questions because ignorance is bliss. I'm happy where we are necklace Rolex insert rats shrimp throat in a fried shrimp. I'm not gonna shit. And so then she decides then at breakfast. She's like aby m sorry. Sorry. Any any other jewelry coming anything? No. But like we good. I don't know. I would not be surprised that this was the same pattern. Even in the courtship of Cordell because that's weird like being afraid to ask questions like that's not. That's not right. You should be. If you're with someone you love someone you really like are you going to be in a relationship? That's going to be punctual. You can't be afraid to say, what's on your mind. Right. We only saw that relationship. Once he was already married, but she just seems like the type who's going for somebody really rich. And I think when you go for somebody really rich, and he find them then you feel like they're doing you a favor because they're the really rich went. So you just have to please him in order to get the ring. So you can be really rich. So it is kind of like a job interview, you know. So she does have to behave. So she doesn't get kicked to the curb. And that's why vantage eight people just because they're match guys come on. Everybody's mother here or or hot probably goes the same with hotness. Hotness is even worse because what do they have to offer? It's it's temporary. I know I know so the other. So the ladies meanwhile arrive at their hotel the hotels called Betsy the hotel Betsy and I started to laugh because. There's this crazy girl, I know in Betsy and like she has this tendency to like like over taxed or just even like even person she just proclaims things to the next point like when she wakes up. She's like. You know, and she's like we'll tax like awake with an exclamation point. And so I'm just imagining a hotel a whole hotel that was like in Betsy form, it'd be like hotel. Like, maybe laugh, it doesn't have to. I might a store. Now, I was like shot an entire Betsy hotel like nightmare at a necklace. Well, they clad well again relegating. Yeah. So the girls arrive at Avis saunters. I mean is a piece of work Eva, we're going to see a lot of eve, I think the seizing that she the way she walks in a Larry she's like an eighty year old ex bottle. Draw just trying so hard. She's like a model. Get it. Yeah. She's a lot. Nissan. We are taking commercial break now. But if you don't hear one don't worry, you'll have very lucky, dude. Have you heard about away luggage away uses high quality materials while offering a much lower price compared to other brands by cutting out the middleman selling directly to you. She was from a variety of colors and full sizes. The carry on the big carry on the medium large for extended stays earthly serves -ly, do, you know about this key design features like also cases or made with premium German polycarbonate unrivalled in strength and impact resistance. The interior features a patent pending compression system, go helpful of the Packers full three hundred sixty degrees, spin with sneaky, we guarantee a smooth fry checks. 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That is a way travel dot com slash crappy ins and use the promo code crap ins at checkout for twenty dollars off your seat case. So then Cynthia tells us well. Dini will be very happy to see his girl. And then she's going to beat me for lying about the conference. Gotcha. But I did. And I'm here. So guess who can hold water? I'm like, oh, you sir soda Cynthia with that conference. Call a ruse. That's good. You're really standing up for yourself now Cynthia doing everything to fleas Meany, but just lying about it. And saying you had another call Cynthia has made it you guys. Yeah. Someone re up that friendship contract because it's a long term lease. So Porsche chose the rooms for everyone and everything and the women it's like the standard looking at this room and looking in that room, and this one thinks this room is too small and that rooms do small, and they like this one, you know, the usual hotel scramble. Yeah. And she's like, well, this is why you see their egos. Mock you just gave yourself like a two bedroom room. Okay. And then she says, I'm just gonna write everybody note. So can't it gets her note. And she's I do candy. You're the second just room. So you can continue streak having the knows this room, which is passive aggressive. Yeah. Classic classic Porsche. And then Marlow is like in a little cubbyhole. And so she's clearly not happy. So she calls the front desk, and like requests a larger room etcetera. And Eva here comes a real while Moammar was on the phone getting another room eve as like I was wondering what was in Marlow bag, but I figured it out. Her sense of entitlement is packed in one of her bags. I was like. Good one. Eva burn came to play. She has a way of we're with words. Yes. Just kind of warming up you know, because Marlowe is even trying to give shade to the cards because then she reads her her card. She's like what is this room? This is the second smallest stream or what? And then see rates it. It says enjoy the room, and she's like what does this say enjoy the room to maybe your vocabulary? Just isn't that big? I think it's okay. I think it's okay that it says enjoy the room on multiple notes. I think that's a fairly like I don't think that's necessarily like I don't think that's really a commentary on her vocabulary. Although at the same time Marlow is kind of right. So I guess it's a draw draw draw. So Nina gets a call from Porsche. And now that every time Dini sees Porsche. Or here's from Porsche. She always starts like this. Yeah. Bars. She didn't even do any I know and mall. She's talking on the phone with Porsche. I don't know if you knows this. But it was cracking me up. There was like a little mannequin by her that didn't have a head is one of those mannequins. That's just like a neck, and he is like trying to put a big sun hat on it. And she couldn't get it. Right. It was totally perplexing, Nina. So she's like talking, but like trying to adjust as big floppy hat, and so I take an on off just like she was just like, you could tell this was like her Moby Dick moment, she like I'll never be able to get this hat on the mannequin all gonna get that. Hey. I'm going to get bad head so Porsche is telling sh maybe show surprise her bring Dennis and being he's like, I hate surprises. Pores. So then we go back to the Betsy. And even like, well, there's some turmoil among the ranks. And now all these girls are pretending to like each other. I'm very confused. And then we see the clips of better times Marlow and Porsche fought over that fan. Yeah. And that's what the producers do to spice things up like, well, nothing's really happening this episode. So we'll just show clips from other seasons that were far more entertaining. So here we got like Vicky Gumbel send getting her finger stuck in the van door opener thing handle, we just see the win and Bethany just screaming at each other in the berkshires. Lisa Vander pump at the DMV in season one Beverly Hills. Lisa vintages throws a glass. At least in my dream last night. Now that I say that you know, when you say something that sparks I'm remembering now, Lisa arena was in my dream. She was she showed up at a party. And I was like oh my God. He got this. Lisa renchik. Hi, hello. Hi, ben. Very simple dreams. Celebrities. Like there's nothing off waiting. I'm waiting the end waiting for the end. Feel like no renaissance high to be that was it like she showed up and said, hi. And it was like, really lovely. And I was like I love that Lisa arena. I do love at least, by the way. I do. I do the. So let's see here Marlow is calling to see if she can get a bigger room. And they're like, what are you complaining about you have your own private elevator? And she's like, I didn't see that. Let's see work goes. Charlie. They go down. So they go down to the other room, and it's Porsches room at it's obviously portions room, it's like there's a sign that says Porsche, there's a letter that says portion Williams and all our luggage is in there, and it has forced to name tags on it. And she's like, maybe this is my room. Yeah. She just this is gonna be hers, even though it's like, obviously, not hers again this felt was like funny, but it felt a little bit like producer antics. So she likes starts moving all her stuff into Porsches room. So we know this is going to be a thing it's going to be a clash, etc. So then we go into it. Or will they flip the script? So then we go over to any she's in her condo with Greg. And they're like getting ready for the big show because we need to do it. And she's doing your comedy show. I thought it would be at a club. I didn't realize it was going to be like a full on like arena sort of place. That's pretty cool. And so she'd be hosting an all female show with Lonnie love and some other women etcetera, and I got like a very painful flashback to about seven or eight years ago. When I there was this show that was on logo for like, I don't know a few weeks are Michelle was on. It was one of the co hosts of it and Lonnie love with coast to and I got to go on as a guest talk about pop culture. So the first time I went on. I was I was really good. I was like funny. And like I was they really enjoyed me and the executive producer was Byron Allen. And he came up to me is like you did a great job. I'm Byron Allen. You're welcome back anytime. I was like oh my God. This is. Amazing. I'm on TV with funny on TV. And then they had me back like like two weeks later. And so I was like well so good last time this time, it'd be even funnier. I started to think of like some funny things to say, and they wanted me to talk about at the time jaylo and J lo and what's his face marrow. Smith being being announced as judges on American idol. And there was announced that there was this photo in Jila was in this like berry, shiny like onesie jumpsuit sort of thing. So I was like, oh, let me say something really funny. And so then. Lonnie love was like, well, what did you think about J lo? And I was like J lo she looked crazy. Look like, a tranny utility worker from Mars, of course, this was back a few years ago when I didn't realize how problematic it was for me to say that and the crowd basically booed me never went back on. So that's like what I when. I think of I think of like, I think if like supreme Reynaud is there. She's like. Not funny. Not funny. Not Byron Allen to not look up to me. And I never was asked back. It was it was you haven't lived until you've had a live television audience, boo. You. Appropriately. I never heard that story. That's great. It was mortifying. And I'm mortified to like, I went on TV. And and and said that too, and I'm just I was just trying to be funny and sassy I thought it'd be play. Well, and instead I now have a scar. That resurfaces when I see Lonnie love a tranny utility worker scar from from from Marsh, right? I thought it was funny at the time. But it's not a nice thing to say. Oh ban. Yeah. But that was different time like words, change language change. Yeah. Listen to this show. Everybody. Comparatively seriously. Okay store over so back to people growing up Marlow fighting over a room. Yeah. So either is like, oh, yeah. This is eve as entitlement joke. Ninian her condo. So Greg's like man Mimi, I will still be your assistant on this show. But I'm not gonna be hopping around from room to room helping everybody meaning she's like Greg has been managing this show for two years, and he would run the girl's rooms, but it can't now it's our new normal. And I was like oh come on move forward. Meaning exactly pointing you know, she must have been Ryan wants his face likes to use his his stars in all sorts of things. And the fact that he has not asked any Nina back means that she must have been a monster on that set. I think. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. Did she ever do anything else for him trying to think if she was ever? Well. She. And then the new normal. So I don't know. Whole knows. So now, it's one hour till the show ladies are in the van, which basically means they're taking a bunch of southeast and stuff. Yeah. And Marlow is in this positive space, right Mack? She hasn't decided to attack anybody for no reason yet. So she's like well moments like this. I love and I dress her Mike. Okay. Let's see who you try unlike ram road next. Yeah. Let's see who's who's like a welcome. Mat you decided to bash. Yeah. So then do you need tells us that this is her first time being out staged since her Uber joke last year? And she's like I've learned how to take care of a heckler. Now kick one kick the bitch out to let the audience. Do it three. You can't talk to me if I don't talk to you flanking since win with show. Have you been on for the past twelve years eleven years? Exactly. So she's in her dressing room and all the girls arrive outside and Porsche goes in first, and they're like, hey, what's going on? How's it going? And then then the rest of the girls come in. And it's like, you know, surprise everyone. Happy hugs in, you know, cheer goodwill all around when he sees Porsche. She's like. Look, Greg liggins Porsche Portuguese. Always make me laugh. I know and like look at Greg look isn't he doing so? Well, and Greg's like this is the first time been able to eat all week. And it's like, oh or Greg hurts me to see Greg like that. I hate seeing Greg. Well, I mean regardless I mean, I don't love Greg. But I would never want to see some he'd he he looks on. Well, and it's very sad seeing that someone through that. So. Yeah. So then they pray Porteous like, let's have a prayer father God in the name of Jesus help, Greg. It better helped me do it. Good show Raleigh gang. Give me some. I'm on a Rolex me for my finger at the end. I man hashtag hot dog. So the Nina goes onstage, and she's like she's like walking around like in a robe. You know, and she's like people said, I wasn't a comedian. And they're right. I'm a hustler. It's like everyone's like. It's like everyone's like. Oh, like, you're right. You're not a community. So what can I say? There was only a half a half a crowd in there. There was a lot of empty seats. I felt that. So then she makes fun of can be very subtle shit, Bing, Bing, Asami there were a lot of seats though there. But that's a huge house like us being like, hey, let's try and fill a football stadium. Humongous huge. So then we don't see too much of the comics. We only see we see Lonnie love and then another lady and then like Lonnie comes back stage. And it's talking to ni about Greg, and they're getting all emotional about Greg going through cancer, you know, that sort of stuff. Yeah. And it sad and Anini tells us I'll tell you this. Greg leaks is loved they may not love his wife. But they sure love him dang. Meaning so. But anyway after all this comedy stuff, they they all retire back to the Betsy hotel Betsy and they go to the rooftop for some cocktails and food. There's like two tacos on the table for them. It's kind of like hilariously sad. And you know, they're all like happy, and they're saying the couches and the news like joking about how crazy it is that Marlin Porsche getting along and things like that and Porsche starts talking about her night with Dennis and their burgeoning romance etcetera etcetera etcetera. Yeah. And then many starts subtly trying to get people fighting. She's like, wait a minute. How are Marlow and Porsche talking? Now, we don't know. But it's nice to know is taking up each other's binds. The we get a clip of means bond falling off Aussies yelling poor also on a rooftop last year on a vacation. So then portion goes I question the coupe. Have you ever? Use your boyfriend her husband's to fresh and like without even missing a beat. Everyone's like, no. It wasn't. It wasn't like not really. It was just like like are you crazy testing? It is disgusting. And even like the point of a toothbrush is to remove tartar. Which is true. And then we have clips of them all saying ham ASI that is. Yeah. And Porsche candy tries to warn portion because they say the candy says, so how's this new boyfriend of yours, and she's like, he's great. I got him. I got a necklace bracelet a watch two for one hotdogs anywhere in Atlanta. And they're like, well that's fast four seven. She's like, well, I don't care if it's a daring. Yeah. I'll do it. If it's right Honey and candy says, but is he talking beverage? I know we haven't always been but don't let that happen. You wanna get married? And been candy tells us before she even told me about her. I've heard about him. I know who this guy is I've heard all about this guy. Yeah. And she should watch out. And I I mean me personally, I've heard nothing about this guy. And I still say she should watch out because it does not take anyone with more than two brain cells to see that. This guy is trouble to be as leeann would say, hey, jest had waste leads. But they shine quite well to pressures, but they work cli-. Well, so she tells them they say, you should find a man who loves you more than you'll have him. I think I have that. No. You don't what in the world? Are you saying also don't say that on TV to somebody? You're trying to get to marry you literally have a man who spends half his time wondering whether or not he wiped out the Dingle berry from his ass. Okay. So then Marlow is like well. Thank you so much portion because I really love my room and candies like. Yeah. So. Yeah. So now, it's back to the room room shenanigans. Oh, so then they go. Do they go back to the hotel while I mean, they're on top there on the rooftop? Remember, they know God. I don't. Yeah. I mean, I don't remember. They were just talking about or they go down to the rooms. I think they did go down either way like Porsche fine. And Marlow is like Marla trying to play dumps as well. I didn't realize you were staying you. I thought you were saying doggie took it over. And Eva says Marlow is surprisingly extra like the news lately. Okay. Extra extra read all about it. Trump just did something crazy. K that's what she's like classic Eva. So now the next morning and e- like now everyone's like making phone calls. He was talking to her got what's her what's her boyfriend's name again or husband or I Don I didn't write it down. Will let's call them wolf for the moment. A will with cynthia's last guy. Let's call him. Let's call them bike Mike, except that's the new guy. Well, Cynthia talking to Mike also. Yeah. Everybody basically calls home. Yeah. I can't he's talking to Todd. And you know, they're talking about Dennis. And she's like, no, Dan if you. If you. Dot what do you think? Like my own business, babe. Stay of it. Hey, ain't you stay out of it? And speaking of relationships, I don't trust cynthia's, Mike guy, not trusting this either. This guy seems like he's totally playing to. I don't care was always he's always bla-bla-bla about something. I'm like trying to really I don't know. I'm not buying him. Either. I don't know I buy it because he's already on TV. And so like he like, I don't know like like someone like will from last season. He's definitely shadier or Dennis from this season. It's like they seem like upwardly mobile. But I don't know. I think Mike is is established in his sportscasting world. I dunno. I buy it more. Okay. So time will tell time will tell who's writing this rift. Yes, enforces room, she comes down. And she starts. She starts telling her makeup people to set up thinking, the portions left to other hotel room, but Porsches there enforces wearing Herber Sachi outfit Marlins for Sasha outfit. I you think. Okay. Now, they're just like. Talking with each other. But we it's hilarious because portions like walking around all crazy, and like, you know, fully stretching that for south Chea fit in the nether regions. Marlou stretch it. Yeah. But what we find out? But then you know, what what what we find is that this is actually just like friendly friendly joshing around, you know, because the two of them went out to the club last night. Surprisingly. Because that's borsch put it. She's like. Get by together stupid hotel because he elevated so basically portion went up to club with Dennis Marlow came along. And they had an amazing amazing time and shockingly Marlow is now the first person to have met Dennis and Marlow loves them. Yeah. And they're like best east Mel, and she's like, I just don't understand why we got up on the wrong foot or she's like I forgot to. Let's be Beth friends Coker. Oh, I remember what we go off on the wrong foot. Because one of my feet was on your tiny, welcome at one was on the bricks, and I. Maybe if you had a bigger welcome out. It could have been better. I did forget why they were fighting with Cynthia said that later I started cracking up. She's like these girls fought Oprah welcome at. Yeah. So, but but the thing is this though, hadn't portion been around Marlow before the welcome at I mean, they act like they just they just met each other last season about Marla. Does that thing where she seems like she's so fun, and she's so nice. She's really cool and everybody loves her. And then she just loses it on. She picked somebody. And she loses it on them. And just says really mean things, and then you know, she gets a Porsche reaction. That's true. That's true. I mean Marlins just thirsty Marlow just wants that peach so badly, she is basically the Kim de of this cast, and she'll never get it. I don't know. I kind of feel like Kim de is better at what she does than Marlow is. I feel like Marlow is just having Marla was special. She's she's oddly icon, again, her own weird friend of iconic way. But she's Thursday. I mean, she really like she has she everything she does is so blatantly for camera time, you know, at least Kindy I kind of feel like Kim does that too. But at least Kim de also is like certified crazy like I feel like I mean, they clink clink. Okay. Three. So over at the store the store opening nannies. Like, I've got something for everybody. I've got booty shorts. If you wanna go party you affect girl. I got that girl thinks too. God I got stuff for thoughts. I'm like, this is not this is not sound like a focused boutique here, this is based KMart. Okay. A little something for everyone doesn't really work that way. Also, I don't know if you noticed this. But all the people that were there for this opening day. I was just laughing because it took me back to win candy had some of aunt and all these people came, and then he was like Twitter people. These are just Twitter people. I'm like who do you think is that your swag Alicia opening day mammal? Yeah. And we see especially you can really tell when they all walk in later, but the ladies are walking over because it's only a block and a half a Marlins like oh, hell, no. I need a Ober which guess who else is like that me. I'm like, I'm totally Marlow missing enforced is sweating. I'm about out this ain't working out. I'm gonna wait a minute or two and can't Candice having to issue. She's I know can keep me and. Think you are not going to be get along for two seconds since he's like God, these girls can't make it around the block Swain sound like these girls haven't been around the block a couple of times girl. Now who's holding a child who's hold a water? Cynthia killing us and killing. It m Eva is hading eight Eva is still hating Marlow. She's like Miami means heat K, bathing suit and flip flops, but no Marlow has a winter wool hat. I set it there. I sent it. The truth comes out even exposes Marlow for the fabric. She's at long last. So now, they get they get the boutique and they're all looking. Did you see that lady who is standing in the background and her eyes were just popping out of her head? And she smile she's freaking out when she saw them all coming in a hundred percent like this was this was full on Twitter people here. So yeah. So everyone's looking to close and then pork rag. He starts to overheat. So he goes outside which in Miami might not actually be helpful. So he's sitting out there. And it was sweet. Because all the ladies really did come together they like fanned him. They gave him you know, the cold water. They told him to sit Marlow tried to distract him with like a joke. And she's like, okay. I'm going to tell a joke once upon a time Craig goes joke. That sounds like a story. Bad wang. Stories start like that. Good. That's the way. Cinderella. We'll is questions. Of course. Hey story to start with what time crack likes facts base fact-based turtles. So then Greg starts telling them jokes. Like, what's one thing? You'd never say to a person that meets a ride and Marla go person. Oh, yeah. When Legat person that needs a ride and more does a rag. He goes one a hop in. And they're like. He's like what is your nose run, and your I don't know what forget the other thing. Like, why beats me I thought you'd know. I'm like, oh, Greg Emmys has cut Dini's attitude is kind of weird. You know? I'm not sure what to think of meaning because she keeps saying things that make me just kinda cringe. She's like well are Faust set sickness and help, and I guess I would want my partner to stay with me if I was going through this. So I'm going to stay with him too. Well, she you know, I felt bad for any need because you could really see I she was looking at correct. You can really see like that concern in her eyes. This was not like I mean to be extra for the cameras right now like the camera like caught some angles of her where it was just sort of like it was like real ni like real concern knee. And I was like, oh, that's sad. I felt I felt. Yeah. All right. Well, let's skip over to marry to maybe that we all situations barbecue biscuits and birth control. That's the title of this episode. This is a great episode. I was cracking up. I'm marriage medicine has really so far. It's been outshining Atlanta. I mean, there's no reason why they have to be compared it's not like, you know. But if we're talking about on the same nights. Yeah. Exactly. So I mean, you know, they're just considering that there are the other Atlanta show right now, they're they've often been considered to be like like Atlanta's like red headed stepchild, you know, they're kind of showing up Atlanta at the moment and this week's episode it opens up with quad holding tissue up to her eyes, which just sort of like quad the entire season. You know, like have to hold the tissue up to my, Sean. Love with another. They were showing the clips from last week. And then you know, when it just comes on instead of playing the whole opening it just goes, this is like a glimpse and just just married to medicine. And so right when they showed that they go I'll pick it a guy that ho just cracks me up line. It's so classic quad goes if I had known it was going to resort to this would have refrained. Defense rests. So they're all still at this fight dinner where everybody's spot heavenly in Mariah especially or going at it and heavenly throne, a chair mariah's broken glass in his ready to stab heavenly. Toy is like they would sex. It's extremely ridiculous. And of course, Mariah is is the is the biggest victim of all. She's like she went to my mom because last week heavily like mariah's said something and having said your momma, and then through a chair some Mariah does like she went to my mom, and nobody felt the need to say heavenly. You're taking it to another place. I'm like, please stop taking his momma jokes. So literally like you have to stop you have to understand the idea of your Yama joke. Okay. Just relax. Okay. When when people say, you're mama's so fat that she doesn't. I don't know. Like, whatever it is. It's not really your mom. It's not like, you're mugger. Okay. Well, that's my riot mariah's the most evil person, I think she's one of the most workable people probably like, she's evil. She said disgusting human being Matt granted. She's also hysterical. So she gets a pass and a race, but she's like an awful human being. And then the second anybody says anything. Back to her. She's like that. Is it Aiden? We are leaving. Yeah. Exactly. So this is what happens here. So they walk off because heavenly said, yo, mama. So they walk off and Simone follows them. And she's like we have talked about this over and over again. And she is doing this to you as a hot button issue. It's like, okay. So you're always running for mayor and how you speak. But now you're talking hot button issues. Yeah. What are you? What are you trying to say Simone? You're saying I have buttons. You think I'm like a typewriter Simone? See this is not what a real friend. Does. You do not compare me to now dated piece of technology. And then Aden kinda yells at Simone. He's like, you gotta address this in front of everyone or won't be resolved. And this is ridiculous. You don't just come address to us. What's agency? So gross to like, he's always like willing to get into a screaming match the woman gross. He's he's whatever. So now, it's the next morning and critising, Jack, you're lying in bed and Jackie's. Like, it seems like the men are causing the trouble. He's like absolutely not. It was the woman women who kicked it off, Jack. It's like, well, we wouldn't have been talked about to stuff of grit had gone and done what he did. And Curtis's like what Curtis you better? Stop you better south right now Jackie will bring any fight back to Curtis cheating on her. Like, she's going to do it for the rest of their lives. That's what happens when you cheat. You notice the deal with that? Did you notice the end of that dinner scene? Quad just is leaning on a chair she standing up and just leaning on the back of a chair, and she's got no makeup left. She's like cried wiped off all of her makeup. It was so funny. I don't think I've ever seen quad without makeup. She's like full. My face this. We have resorted to do. So then we get quad Cam. Yeah. Because quite as there without anybody. So she's like just talking to her her phone by herself. She's like, this is beauty mess have resorted interest. I will make the best of this trip. So gene is making breakfast and Contessa is still in her room all pissed off that toyah probably did this hit her in the bond, purpose and still hasn't even called to say, are you? Okay. Yeah. And I'm officially over fucking contest. I'm a little over her to like, I actually -mergency surgery that you went in for this was an elective surgery that you chose to get while you were shooting. You're only shooting a couple of months, and I'm not saying I don't feel for her for her surgery. I'm just saying come on. I'm Contessa too. I'm actually I've actually been very pro Contessa. And I I don't even care about the surgery. I actually don't believe it or not. I actually don't think that she's been ramming it down people's mouths. I think she had surgery. And so it's like, oh, well, she had surgery. But this whole victim thing like where she thinks that toyah intentionally like slapped her boob. Okay. And now she's like upset the no-one texted her to see how she's doing how she feels like contested. That's where you lose me. That's that's. Where I'm like not into this. Yeah. And there's been some drama online about people talking about is she? You know, are they all terrible people for suggesting that they're over it to her talking about. And it's not the surgery. It's like it's not that she shouldn't have had it or that. It was a bad decision or that. She's milking it I don't think any of that staff. And I think it's her right? And she should have done it. But the fact is it was a chosen surgery during shooting. It was not like some emergency surgery that she had to get that moment. I don't know. I don't that doesn't bother me. I mean, I feel like she, you know, her dad just came down with cancer prognosis. She lost her mom and then an opening because she even said it was supposed to be like several weeks out. And then the the doctor was like, oh, by the way, I have an opening now. So she just jumped on it. I don't I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I I don't care if it's elected or not like a very important procedure for her. I just think the this like a whoa is me. Toy got startled by our crab what which is still my favorite thing that ever happened on the show. And and like, oh, she did it on purpose. I mean, everyone is. Like come on. Now, Toya Toya is ridiculous. And she rarely makes sense and doesn't understand the world around her. But I don't think she's the type that's going to punch you in your recently mistake Demy boob. Okay. So like you need to settle down. You didn't get a text message, which is fine. But it's also because you know, like, you you could've you could've texted people and say, hey, I'm not feeling well 'cause my boob is swollen. But you sent your husband and what's happened. Now. Is that heavenly made it sound like you were attacking Toya about at all. And then everyone's like fuck Cadessus. So just relax contests. That's why you didn't get a text message. Yeah. So then see so the guy start gathering in the kitchen, see salon eighteen or the kitchen while he's cooking, and he decides to make Toya's baked beans without her which doesn't work very well on everybody's talking about this. Honey this Honey with testosterone in it. Yeah. It was like one of the gifts from as part of the ritual gift giving ceremony that happened last night. So apparently, it gave some of the Boehner's or whatever. Yeah. So it's awkward with the guys. Because obviously there was a big guy fight last night. So the girls are at the pool. The guys are barbecuing and toy it comes down and toy Toyotas. Dr jackets heels. Oh, jackie. I almost mopped up bailing. Oh my God. Jackie way. The we got the save swimsuit on. With this like, we I almost got that babies, even if it's not even that, oh, I have that bathing suit. And I didn't bring it or I had that bathing suit or not wearing it. It's that I saw it. But then by all three something wants. Aw. So jackie. They're sitting around by the pool and Jackie is like, whoa. Where do we put these glasses? And Mariah says I don't wanna talk about glasses. I'm not doing well with glasses these days and quad comes downstairs with contests at and contest. It's like Hello. Beautiful people. Yeah. I mean, I don't even know what time it is morning gets an afternoon. It's so good to see like she's squeaking in this, really. Like, I'm being everybody. Yeah. Up to Toyota, just like, hey, how will you until I just doesn't say anything. Oh, what can we do that? We could do that too. Okay. Anyway, I hope they're no crabs around won't my boob. Toy. Toi toi. It's like what she said about beat was very a cool. It's extremely disappointing. Like, she's got a. Yeah. And Simone's mad to Simone's gone really mad at Contessa. She's like even the insinuation that. Toyah would do that on purpose is character as assoiation? I'm like, you know, what everyone here assassinates each other on a daily basis on this show. Okay. This is not the worst thing in the world. I mean, obviously, we're know Simone hates most out of anybody Simone haste when people don't come to work. Okay. See this is probably quad this year as well. And I think she's like listen you haven't showed up for work all season long. Granted you have a doctor's note. But you haven't showed up you show on the big -cation, Ed still dot com to were. And then blame then you're making all this shit about Toya. And you're not even showing up to fight about it. Like what the hell late? She probably had a friend. She wanted to get on the. Cast and like, no, we don't we don't have room for her because contest is coming back full-time and Simone's probably pissed. That's probably what it was. That's my conspiracy theory. So Dalen, meanwhile, Damon's like with the gosh, oh, HUD, and sleep. Well, because of all the drama last night, my feelings were I feel like what am I doing? Ooh. Daddy said. Yeah, he's telling eight in, you know, just because our wives are crazy doesn't mean we have to be like this and eight well, you work on a throw down and you see. So it's like, well, you know, the way you reacted last night. Daddy, I thought that Aden must've set some really bad shit. But when I heard that you just can't, you know, all he said was keep the moms out of it. And he's like, but it was heated. And if I didn't say something, clearly if I didn't say anything early, it would've escalated, but my feelings were her I thought what if I done your wife said I cheated on my husband. I haven't cheated on. My are my. My wife. I haven't cheated on my wife, and he's like your wife, always attacking by wife. My mother-in-law at even me. Oh god. Eight and on yourself. Meanwhile, over by the pool Simone's like contests. How do you feel and Contessa XL like I feel much better? Thank you very much. You know, I spent the night in the supine position, and you can just tell Toya almost hear the sound of Toya's eyeballs going left, and right like us, we bomb is that like is that like one of those animals that has like the needles on it like a little bad. She made soup cook on this trip. But she made those recipe. Disgusting. Disgusting. Some of like, you may dinner. The first part was beautiful and amazing. But the ending was the ending was a glee and heavenly. I think for me I could have handled it differently. I said something I still have that bad. Because I've been working on my Inc. Go about did this. Slowdown. Then. Right. Mariah. Then decides that she is going to be the martyr, and she's like, actually, it was my fault because I commented the goodness of my heart because I just wanna be such a good friend, I commented on quads marriage and I- triggered everything. And it's my fault, and I'll never speak of the marriage again. We'll take all my best friendship instincts and keep them on the inside. Because what I'm gonna do. It's like shut up. Mariah. Mariah. And then qualify receive it just don't speak about it. And then we show this resort to that level. See won't speak about marriage. It when I see it all these ladies talk about us squad misquakees squad. It's the second language. U S L quotas. The second thing. Oh, believe it win. The visuals are transposed in front of MS. Gosh. Find out the supine position. I thought it myself to in my quad. Pam sister circle. By the way. I apologize. Ronnie. I laughed so hard. I swung my chair and it hit the table. And I know you hate it. When I hit the desk, did you? I didn't even hear it's when he do this. You hear me like this time? Yes is that? It's like these things where you like pay. You you do this to the table and like hits my ears. Like, you're hitting mice are I'm sorry. 'cause I know it's probably even like ten times more annoying for everyone at home. But I can't help it. Sometimes I just have to have a quiet wrenching Mary medicine. I'm not apologizing. They're apologizing enough right now on this. I am sorry that I commended on this issue, and I will never comment on on. Can receive that. Why? So. Another thing. I oh, she tells says I shouldn't have to tell a bunch of grown women not to make your momma jokes because I have to answer to my, mama. Okay. And I had to explain why I put myself in positions with someone who constantly says your mum your mum and heavenly like. Well, I'll stay with you on this. And then you broke the glass, and she's like accidentally excellent danell, and she's like starts getting so mad. She's like, I gotta leave. I got to leave because you're good Ryan's like accidentally just the way. Daddy accidentally broke a glass last last year. And remember we see that scene where daddy like clutches a glass, so hard it breaks the differences that was an accident. And what you did last night was that you took a glass, and you banged it on the leg of your chair. And that's not an accidental action yet to use as a weapon. And then you wouldn't let go of it. Yeah. And heavenly do not compare my husband anything about you. I'm good, and she leaves and then Mariah knocks over a glass again and it breaks. There we go with blast is again. I'm sorry, Jackie. I'm just baffled glasses y'all spat with glasses, y'all. So then then it we transition is true. She bad glassware. I don't take the Corning. So then she Jackie. Jackie Tom, so Contessa. I would like to welcome you back to the girlfriend, circle and Cadessus like well, just so everyone knows toy. You haven't called me or tactic me after you're sorta by that crab. And I know that both me and the crab deserve an apology and Toyota's like. Excuse. What about like what will happen? I apologize south of you. Okay. Right on that. And she's like, no, no, no. You were just like oh sorry. My bad. Are you? Okay. And guess what? I wasn't. Okay. I never said. I was oh God. And then quads like you miss raiding issue. Toya's like don't sit. He'd make. It seemed like some of the TAC you'd like some of that to get you. And then some like toy. Yeah. Yeah. The guy the guys. Guys are over like. Oh, jeez. Here we go again. Yeah. So yeah. So like you were saying I interrupted but ta? And basically they start fighting and contestants like, listen Toya. I don't wanna fight with you anymore stale. Frankly, like, I'm sick of the same will fight, Mike. You just reignited it literally yesterday. Okay. Yeah. But she's like, it's stale. I'm sick of it. And then toy suddenly comes down to and she's like, she's right? Would you charge? You have to make sure everyone's happy. You just have restaurants work. Okay. Bye. Beets are almost ready. And so she tells her realistically it's a do day. Let's start over with. Let's have a good day today. So now, it's like, suddenly they're all made up again. Yeah. But we know toy is not going to have a good day because gene, put garlic in the beans and she's furious. And you know, it's not the garlic. I just the Turkey Turkey meat tastes different. And antiga. Like, I just love that. That was probably the probably the longest fight we know that the camera stops, and they probably been fighting about those beans for the past six, months, Golic, and leans. Then we get another quad Cam. She's like, I'm making waves are all okay. This girl is confident. This girl has been cheated on in a club by. This girl loves Kraft, macaroni and cheese. This one stook took all the husband's footage showed is gonna. This one put a better the quote of the room in a strange angle. So everyone just kinda messes around and starts getting ready to go out and contestants Qatar getting dressed. And he's like do. I look. Okay. And she's like, oh my God. You're good shoes or pretty and he's like don't ever say what a guy wears pretty because they will take it off immediately. Okay. Insecure masculinity. So now, it's dinnertime they're going to a place for dinner, and I was happy to see Porsches tree stump chargers on the table, which I really which by the way is different than the actual tree stump that she tries to charge her phone in these are actual table charters. So those are like fresh for marshalls as we know because didn't Porsche return them to Marshall's after her dinner party last year. Am I being making totally obscure reference referenced, I don't even know what you mean? Tree stumped charging chargers on on a table there. Like the big plates. They put the other plates on top of. Oh. Cell phone chargers. Made out of tree stumps. So I was like what are you talking about? What's going one? I talked about the San Diego Chargers. No the note remember last year Porsche had at the welcome mat party where everyone's shaded her for her tiny, welcome at Porsche had a dinner party. And they put out all she bought a bunch of tree stumps. That were the chart the plate chargers. And the and they're like where did you get these tree? She's like Marshall's and I'm bringing them back tomorrow. Let's all the price tags on. Yeah. Clearly, this is something that was way more important in my life than yours because I was like look at that party is totally taken over by the welcome mat as I recall, sorry, trees, sorry, discharge papers. So the dinner begins in the way that we want all our dinners to begin Toya standing up and saying tonight is about giving misleading in a sexual way by petites and heavenly. Since Hurwitz cackle, heavenly, what is your best sex nine? She's like did he likes me to put it in his Meltzer? Daddy, really, quite lovely daddy's. Like, oh, no. Oh, daddy. Daddy want? Everybody to know blowjobs or totally totally crazy rebellious. Daddy barris now who so then heavenly now run about you Simone, so you so what's the key to you stand in all their friends showing up at the reunion, forcing them to not go through with her divorce. Yeah. It helps. So this is and then here this launches one of the more ridiculous fights we've seen on this show. Someone's like sexually. I'm a real basic girl into base days today. Today. Basic, though, no, no, basically. Basic energy genes, like a pave just let her talk and some mongo's lifted toy I made it twenty two years, maybe basic cut some shit. Okay. Title, basic, don't they basic though, but you said basic right now, and she goes, okay. You gene, you were masturbating. So please whatever she was doing. It wasn't working. Nul noble, if you don't have this biscuit, then you can't talk. Okay. Okay. I got the biscuit. I got the biscuit. We've come a long way since the conscious. Oh, she's basically lie. Okay. Here's what the biscuit, hold on a hassle slit, basic as it has five levels in it, south till the beat until syllables. Thank you. This has been toyah. The biscuits docket. It. Literally. What's the butter? The biscuit biscuit. Okay. I just want to know that this is a biscuit and not a brisket. It's varietal very different things. Okay. Thanks as jeans like he's like toy. If she wants to use the word, basic, it's okay? That's a word. She can use towards like, no, no now biscuit. Yeah. Please get up. Oh, gee, let's go talk OJ. Please get oh Jade so she dragged him off to fight and other get each other over her calling someone basic and him not wanting her to. I mean, it's the dumbest thing. Aw, right now. Okay. She's like I was trying to get the the opened up you still talk to feed you still talk. You literally still talk to g and quad over the table goes that there isn't that situation. I don't need to impede on that. Because what has transpired fourth is that gene has gone to the hands off to their fourth. And we will just sit on transplant in silence. Stop talking. Gee lease. And he's like the truth. Is you can't run everything you can't run. You can't run the man, and you can't run the women. You just can't run everything all the time. Gene. Did you eat the biscuit will gene talking biscuit? Like have you felt my tits lately they are made of biscuits. I win. That's not fair because Gina the biscuit. Which means he gets always talk from that long. Then we're I guess I knew this would happen. You should know better than to give your woman accused Coney. Toya comes back to the table. And she's full on sobbing over what we're still not sure she didn't like Simone said said basic, and then took over then held a biscuit. A new gene told her to let her say bays like and now she's sobbing. Okay. Does this Toya's trip? So she was going to be the boss and lead everything and boss everybody around and tell people offer not being like in a good as marriages her and that she had a fight about America in front of everybody. So now, she's Sanal. She's trying to compose herself. And she's like sobbing. Like. What would you say? It was basic what please you get to do without the biscuit, please. Please speak Lou. Surmount let let's go to the bathroom. Come on. Let's go to the bathroom. She tells us God bless Udine for dealing with this crazy shit. See nuts. Yeah. I just want to say this is a much better example of like a real fight about nothing then has to be dialed back as opposed to Porsche with Dennis at the at the top of our recap ended Lanta just once just once. Yeah. Well, give them time. You know, this is how they're starting. You're at the club. And you think it was only an hour, but it was five. So anyway, so yeah. So Toya's Saab against the moans arms, and smells like gene is the last person you should be yelling at you should be yelling at quad or catas- or quad. Or they can't just go back between those two. Look, there's a crab. Oh, just kidding. That was fun for me. Toria punches in the boob on purpose. So so they come back to the table and toy let it be clear. I started taking both controls to Jade my area is maybe crazy. They all they all start making fun of that to us morass. All right. Well, if I hit heavenly the throat, you will know is because of the birth control. And then I thought the one that was most awkward was Curtis. He goes, I mean, if this is the result of birth control. I'm glad we're beyond that. And like, that's because your wife had cancer twice. And can no I know he's ATL. Abdel dream God. He's such a dick this guy every time. He's in that interview room. It's like run Jackie Ryan tacky. This birth controls. Claes the up and taking it for like three months muscle have been able to control anyone's both as yet. But by the way, I think birth control does affect all of your, you know, your bones and all that stuff. So I don't know why everybody's acting like that. So I thought it was pretty standard. But I guess if you say that and you have to obstetricians at the table, they're like, then I'm gonna believe Simona Jackie on this one. Okay. Okay. Well, I have no vagina. So that's true too. I had an ambitious lead up to people with China's how about so Toya is like I guess is this hotted because it's like a couple strip and that'll be easily. And I was like I do this. But then all of a sudden they're crabs and like a and then I got scared. And and like, I don't know if I will you can about you know, dump that grabbed around and it gets gave him sometimes when I get scared. I hit things, and I got a biscuit, you a biscuit, and we can touch thing as make up and so they do that. And then everybody claps, and then it seems everything that way toy like Ed heavily. I pray for your relationship with Barack as it is disrespectful of both ends that shit is Pedi. It's the place your husband's read each other's faces and rank any other spaces that's tired, and I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do this with y'all saying is both of us. Okay. It was not both of our husbands. Nope. No. I'm not going to share the blame on that bullshit. And then Simone it's gotten to this point where someone goes. All right. Can you guys truly just had a silent relationship where you guys just don't talk to each other know biscuits for either of you will move forward? I won't take a biscuit to talk to heavenly or quad. How about that? What quad and quads? I I think that is a good result. It to decision. What signed summarize like one last biscuit comment? I should not have to ask my close friends. Stand up and say moms are off limits. I'm like, oh my God. Please. Yes. I can't be with the group that won't stand for basic morals. And I'm still upset that Martin Lawrence made a movie about my mother's house and didn't ask for permission. It's like, no big momma's house was not about your mom. Okay. So quad as yes, Mariah, but family is family and just like you. See mama, heavenly has to see Betty. That he has to see momma momma to see avenue family, period. Well, the how do you explain the fact that no one has yelled at Barbara Streisand for singing about my Papa? He can't hear you. Okay. Now. So then Mariah and Aden are whispering to each other. But not whispering. They're like talking about. But just talking to each other. Yeah. Pass. These people are not my friends, and he goes, the only true friend. You have is me. And she's like yet, you some dark cold people the people at this table and Eugene's like guys if you're going to have a private conversation to the point where I can hear it. You might as well. Hold the biscuit. Yes. Would you like a fuss in biscuit because you're both funds? Oh, I love when he talks about fussing, you guys just fussing fussing too much too much fuss in at the table. I'm morass. I this guess what time it is time for us to go time for us to go. I'm like, oh what a shocker there. She goes again. So Ryan Aiden leave until he goes after them mariah's like I just don't feel like I fit in anymore. Popeye popeye. Phase pop. She starts doing that thing where she's like visible pipe blowing the bubbles. I just feel like I don't fit in any more. And and also eight doesn't feel well, and they have this whole cockamamie thing and razz like, you know, when you're not accepted. It's just not right for us. We don't fit in with the group anymore. So it's like, okay fine. So that's gene is concerned in now. So please go like eight m-, please. Just stop talking. Okay. Can I have a silent relationship with Aidan? That'd be great. So so toy it goes back to the group, and she's like, well, Mariah doesn't feel. I his pilot those group. Again. Thank you extend Joel south some Mon extended us. So that hotel extended it stain it's pretty reasonable. If you look at the prices. Everyone. I'm gonna pretend to be an employer from spectrum cable and you apply for a job. One back. Try it goes. But the question is why does this girl feels so excluded by garlic being put in a famous beefs? That's the question. Glenn? Jeans. Like, look that's their thing in the end. You know, what I mean, like if they want to have that feeling then that's their thing for having that feeling like with me like if I can my ice can still like quad advocates still like, Greg. And that's okay. I was like, whoa. Wait, a slide that in there that is not the same thing, buddy. Quad gives them a look like oh give that one a pass. I'm still thinking about other things that extend. Well, let that pass. Chaz. So. Yeah. So now the next deadlines. About that one. Attention call the name how stupid of me and toys like, but what do we do genes? Like toya? It's like trying to fit a square inside of a circle K. All you not feel though. Just see Tory. It's like, oh shoot. Working on that Fisher prosposal for years. So now the next day and Simone is mad at seasonal for leaving the toilet seat up. So that's probably a daily occurrence in their household. An eight Mariah overwhelmed from last night from all the negativity that they brought in to that dinner, but she's going to regroup. She feels better now because she's going to dig deep and learn how to have a good time. Because also she has commissioned a boat, and basically she doesn't want to look like an idiot or maybe like the boat has if you spend like a thousand dollars on this boat. Then you don't you're not going to be stuck with the Bill. So now, she's happy and she wants the group to come together on a boat. Yes. And so they all gather together and heavenly in toy are wearing the same outfit with just hilarious. I remember making fun of each other and heavenly psych Pettah. She got too much. Hail. So they get on the boat. You know, I feel sometimes I feel bad for this for this cast because they really do get like the should end of the luxury stick on this show. I mean, they're on just like a tiny little boat. Everyone else on on Bravo gets a yacht. With the exception of Beverly Hills that got like a junk boat, but that was like a temporary situation. But it's like this one in Potomac Potomac yet. Potomac? It's like a canoe at best. So they go on this boat and. Toya's like Abbott cited they want to try to be positive at look up all about sped other people's biscuits. Okay. Yes. So see souls annoyed that the crew was all men because like last year or two years ago. The there was a lady on the crew and heavenly got so mad because the lady talk to daddy. But anyway, the women all gather and Simone goes contests. I want to re welcome you to the group, which I don't know personally, regardless of my feelings have contests. I actually thought that was like a kind of obnoxious things like that was passive aggressive to me to say that like it was like, oh, you've been re welcome like your rebel, Dan. You're allowed back. So contest is like, well, I had surgery and she's like you sound like a victim. I in this case, I was on Contessa side. Because it's like when when Simone says I want every well commute to the group. It like implies like, oh, she took herself awake. She didn't want to be with the group or the group had kicked her out. And she's like, no like, I never left the group. I just had surgery and was recovering. Like, why are you making it sound like I left the group, you know? Well. Look there's Teesside's this first they start shooting a season. They've only they're only shooting the sweat a couple of months this one. I think she shows up to the first party has a fight with toyah then goes in. I I search ary and never comes back. Yeah. K unless they go to shoot at her house like never comes back until the vacation misses the first night there almost unseating. So I think she was I don't think she meant anything to me, of course, some own coming and starting a conversation like this does meat us about the yell at you. We see at every time. Yes. Contest IKA descent anything, but it's coming from Simone. So most about the unload on you. But then that is it is actually what Simone says to us. She's like there is no need for her to say surgery over and over again, none of us have dementia. And it bothers me if she uses the surgery as an excuse if it's just a reason not the hang around with toy. So she does think she's it. But it's. But the thing is this which which I sort of get sort of a weird thing for Simone to be upset about. But Simone's like she's like, you mentioned surgery, and it's relevant to the moment. But it's like no it actually is relevant. You're because you're you're like, you're basically implying that contest. A actively left the group for like like was like being aloof or something like that. She had surgery. Okay. Like, that's why I actually really understood why Contessa was a little bit like I had surgery like not like I left the group. And then I know the counter-arguments like, well, it was elective surgery or whatever. But I kind of feel like this wasn't like a face lift or whatever I I know what you're saying to like the the other layer of it, which is like we're all shooting at TV show now, and you're not participating and you're like not confronting Toya. And giving us a good like moment for our show. So I get that. But I kind of feel like on a face value for what we're seeing on screen. I kinda thought like Simone was. Actually a little out of line. Especially when Simone was like, you are shoving that surgery down our throats. I'm like, you guys are doctors this is sort of like if anyone should be empathy to to you guys. Yeah. And she's like, I only said surgery once and someone's like, well, I'm just trying to welcome you back into. Oh. And that's my friend, and that's mug of fuck. You can thefa buck you and just walked off. And I was like, whoa. This episode was great. And then on the TV. It's like now this is a prepaid program. And none of the views are views of Bravo. Or MBC? It's you box by the U, haul amounts. Like, this is so sad. Why did they do that to the show? The show's really good that it was followed up an infomercial. Hall infomercial on so sad. I don't know why it's on Saturdays this show kicked real housewives of Atlanta's asked. We should have done Atlanta at the end as a shorter episode and done the Lami. We. In both Forty-five minutes. We we switched over the forty five minute, Mark. We were pretty equal to both. Yeah. Because you, you know, me, you know, that I can be very down on marriage medicine. But I thought I've been this is this season has really been like pretty excellencies. And I think this is the best season since season one. Is a good one. I love this show. And I don't like that. It's getting treated like this all I don't think. It's right getting treated better than merit to medicine Houston. That's for sure. Well, that's true. But they never they never had a great season. Thank you. For them. We were rooting for them. But that was not a very good show. This show is is in good from the from the get-go. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Okay. We'll everyone we are going to be back on Yana to discuss real housewives of Orange County and then on Wednesday, it's below deck. And I don't know what we're gonna do with our Dallas at jersey organization, but we'll be covering those later in the week to thanks for listening. Get your holiday on a because it's awesome. 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VW Beetle Pt. I - An Evil Origin Story

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VW Beetle Pt. I - An Evil Origin Story

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Why is that a crowd or Cappuccino machine? Thank you very today. We are covering the volks wagon beetle. You know big to Volkswagen Beatles. Their owners have saying okay. We didn't choose. Our cars are cars. Cars chose US Volkswagen Beetle. I've ever met said despite its storied. Past transforming from a fascist fugitive to a counterculture icon the Beatles was able to prove that idea created in darkness can indeed become a vessel for light cast Jordan guys. Welcome to the pass gas podcast. You like pass. Please help us grow by giving us a good rating and a nicer view on the podcast platform of your choice to really help us out and I really appreciate that. So thank you all right now for the show in this three part series guys. We're going to take a closer look into the origins of one of the most famous cars ever created and to get the full story. We have to go pretty far back. Cash want to get this out. They're the episode of up to speed on. The Volkswagen beetle is our only demonetized video on donut about five five hundred videos on her youtube channel and the only one that youtube deemed inappropriate and decided to not let us make any money on is the Volkswagen Beetle needle episode and that is because it has a very dark origin. Yeah it was made by some very bad dies the the Nazis the Nazis. Some of the worst if not the worst guys ever ever so in this episode. You can't tell the history of this car without mentioning the Nazis Yeah. We're not saying anything about Volkswagen. Owners That just because you like Volkswagen's doesn't mean you're or Nazi Ion Volkswagen's I hate Nazis straight up though we're GONNA be talking about Nazis a whole lot so anyway in eighteen seventy five famed engineer Ferdinand Porsche was born in small. Bohemian village called Matthews Dorf in Austria around the age of thirteen Porsche began conducting electrical experiments. The GARAGE ELECTRICITY IS SHOCKINGLY MODERN INVENTIONS S. Keep in mind. Basically everything we know so in love about life today was invented within the past one hundred years so at the time people had literally no idea what the Heck Porsche was doing with his. Dang electric understanding how a thirteen year old boy could be controlling. Invisible forces was simply impossible so some people believe that Ferdinand Porsche was actually actually possessed boy. Doing wishes. SPA invites stemmed up on INS like that in reality he was just as a teenager who is fascinated by electricity and the chemical process that allowed batteries to function. How nerdy was this guy? Not that I'm putting down engineering nerds. I love you. Guys are one of our Mitch are One of our grips abused a lot for bumper to bumper. Sets of our lights. Make sure the show looks pretty. His son is eight years old and He knows he like Mitch. Bought a three. D. Printer will The kid knows how to use CAD software. Well he's got like a terrarium in his room and there's one more thing kids now are so much smarter so smart and us. Yeah I'm dumb. I when I was that kids age not that old but little younger probably five I was peeing in my trash can in my room because I thought it's the trash that's where he put the stuff you don't want. PM My trash can and my sister walked walked by my room. It was like what are you doing. I was like you don't do this. I thought everyone doesn't work as well. Just like appeared in the room when I was a kid. One of my favorite things to do is go out to the backyard and put dirt on my face and pretend the Caveman Ferdinand's father. He wasn't thrilled with idea of his son being inventor and inventor but that didn't matter for Young Ferdinand to avoid upsetting his father he just did his experiments in secret think we can all relate to that the clandestine destined tinkering would pay off in a big way in one thousand nine hundred Porsche design the first ever functional Hybrid Electric Automobile At the age of twenty seven. You know what I did when I was twenty seven. I'd like to hear it. Got A one line guest star role on two broke girls. Take that for an end uh-huh no one's about to turn twenty seven. Yeah Yeah Nolan at twenty seven is playing the comedy store. That's true. Yeah well by the time this episode came out comes. We'll have already on it done ain't so we're by the time this episode comes out. Nolan is on a meteoric rise. Is He's actually opening up for beach. House at the high would ball. Ferdinand Porsche was already finding success. In designing his first car things were going a little differently for one Adolf Hitler just a year later. In nineteen ninety three eight Adolph's father had died and he was forced to drop out of high school at the age of fourteen fears. Later he served in World War One where he was wounded in a gas attack leading to the creation of as infants mustache leak. It properly fit a gas mask over over his facial hair using a service in World War One. He snuck into Germany because he was an Austrian and received German citizenship. Only a short while later in nineteen thirty the two propaganda posters filled the streets. which led Hitler? Our last hope as he began his rise to power didn't know why he has stupid big mustache as fate would have it. Hitler was rising through the political ranks at the same time. Porsche was leaving Austria for his first job in Germany they would cross Pavlov's avs soon. Everyone recognized the need for an affordable car for the masses the multi was notably the first people's car but technology had totally eclipse multi by the Nineteen Thirties. Many car companies had tried to use strategy called the same but smaller when attempting to make cars affordable all from normal people. The planet at the time was literally take their current cars and just make them smaller and everything so like imagine Mercedes trying to come out with a half scale version of the g wagon at love it. Yeah that's basically what companies are trying to do but it was a flawed strategy as the material real costs. Were still roughly the same as full sized cars so European cars that were actually affordable were little more than cheap go-carts that are dangerous at any speed faster stood in a brisk walk. We'll get back to more pass gas right now over it monsters. We want to take a second to thank our sponsor for this week's accepts owed of pass gas valvoline. 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Valvoline pass gas ask everything on Donut is made possible by our sponsors support. The brands that support us. Germany was looking for a true people's car literally translated as Volkswagen in one thousand nine hundred. Thirty one. One writer from DOS volks auto basically summed up the struggle for making people's those car perfectly quotes the van and be too heavy into expensive to produce the Hausa ill-suited in traffic an unstable in purpose but is needed is a car. Awed designed for the street offering maximum comfort but a minimum of luxury Ferdinand. Porsche realized this as well and at the age of fifty five decided to open a business himself an attempt to accomplish such a monumental task. He assembled a team of the best German. Speaking designers engineers an opened his own company in Stuttgart Germany while he didn't have much capital. He was globally known as an automotive genius so he was able to accomplish this with clouds alone own. GotTa have that clout. Yeah cloud is basically my number one currency. Yeah I think I can speak for everyone in this room. We wouldn't be where we are today without without our cloud for your appearance on two broke girls channel wouldn't exist. It does get a little though. 'cause I remember last week went to lunch and I covered you you and I was like hey. Can you hear me like thirteen dollars. Like I haven't paid for a meal since one thousand nine Hundred Ninety six on April Twenty Fifth Nineteen thirty one the company. I entered the official registry as the doctor Professor Porsche Company for the Assembly consultation and design of automobiles wheels and engines. We've wanted to call Dr Pepper but that's hardly taken. Ferdinand Porsche had made a name for himself in racing. The creation of a people's car was always a personal passion of his. It wasn't long until Porsche began drawing up designs for the first Volkswagen in nineteen thirty. He Won. He was commissioned by Private Motorcycle Company and began working on the project twelve motorcycle sales are going down and this company wanted to diversify hi there portfolio a little bit product. Twelve was the first project ever for Porsche. That was neither a small luxury wagon or a small racing car designs immediately we took on the familiar beetle-shaped and it was powered by five cylinder. One thousand. CC radial engine. That may twenty five horsepower. Radial engine like like like an airplane. Like an airplane yeah the first prototypes were road. Tested in nineteen thirty two. Despite the cars functionality the company that hired Porsche Chak cancelled the contract. As motorcycle. Sales had begin to pick up again in the entire endeavor just like they broke up with their long-term. Yeah way friend and Porsche was like finally you know we're going to get to be together and they're like. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah it's always been you then and turns out Dave's back. Oh cool no good for you guys so happy for you know all right so that whole thing was okay for Porsche the motorcycle manufacturer. Ns you another company immediately. swooped in to take their place at the time. Germany held the largest motorcycle market in the world but people wanted cars and Msu that they begin flirting with the idea of building true through automobiles it's crazy that Nebraska State University started out as a motorcycle manufacturer in Germany. It's incredible and then we can. It makes much more money in academia. This new project was dubbed project. Thirty two as it began in the year. Nineteen thirty two a pattern was beginning to form though and ns you started to stay purely in the motorcycle market and bailed on the project the factor. Ns you pulled out. Didn't hinder porsches spirits. It's though he seemed like a pretty a Kinda Guy Project thirty two had allowed him to alternate innovate his previous designs. Bring him one step closer to the future Volkswagen and he had been dreaming of and just a year and a half working for himself he already. He had already made more progress on designing his dream. People's car then he had made in the previous ten so overall he was pretty stoked meanwhile on February eleventh nineteen thirty three less than two weeks after coming to office Chancellor Adolf off Hitler did something no other German chancellor had ever done he attended the Berlin auto show. It was no accident that the theme of the show that year was the will to motorization cassation which now that read it aloud. Sounds very forboding and evil. Okay so Hitler had a plan quote. The motor vehicle has become come next to the airplane. One of humanity's most ingenious means of transportation the German nation can be proud and knowing is played a major part in the design and development of of this great instrument he immediately punctuated that remark by saying that Germany had fallen behind in the market. And now of course his time to fix it was actually at this auto show that one. Joseph Dan's appeared with his own prototype. Volkswagen the Standard Superior Ganz is especially unique in the story because his designs over the five years before the show helped influence both Ferdinand Porsche. And many others. With their attempted Volkswagen's Hitler himself expressed serious interest tryst in the prototype vehicle during the shell despite providing revolutionary designs contributed to all future. Volkswagen beetles just Ganz's name is almost completely absent from any history books. Due to his Jewish Heritage Ganz was arrested persecuted and forced to flee the country of Germany while his name was scrubbed from basically all records and was forbidden from being associated with the term Volkswagen altogether so porsche basically stole the design at the following auto show one year later. Hitler announced two major policies that would be enacted immediately. He called for the mass construction of roads and and highways as well as for car to be built that can finally be owned and driven by the common man quote. No country can be strong transportation as week to help push forward his dream of a mobilized Germany he promised tax relief for auto companies more money for racing more resources for motoring events less interference from state governments on the ownership ownership and production of cars. Course this was not just for the People's benefit but for militancy. Yes now this this is what kicked are like the. US's highway system into high gear to they're like. Oh we need to get you know missiles across the country chief we need to an arson. Attack on the Reichstag allowed Hitler to make a sweeping power grab. He officially made himself Germany's fuhrer he. Hurried hurried changes and transportation and pass the rash automotive law in the summer of nineteen thirty three removing German states of any responsibilities concerning the ownership and and production of automobiles and soon after the construction of the first autobahn began. So he's the site. I'm a dictator. Yeah Yeah it's like turns out. Yeah I'm king to again public support. The idea of national progress was tied directly to the innovation in transportation. It's hard to understand. Just how big the Autobahn project was. But the pure scale of road. Construction was unprecedented unprecedented at the time. Four thousand thirty four miles of road was planned for construction over the next seven years but like so many characteristics characteristics of the Nazi party it was the idea that mattered. Most the Nazi spoke with these roads. As M- court monuments in fact one announcement titled Not Roads But Works Works of art read quote. Nothing is to cramp or delay you in your swing from one horizon. To the other the highways will spark like stone an artfully rot. Ring ring the construction of these roads was essential for Nazis to gain the power. They wanted but they needed the public support behind. We'll be right back with more of this story. Okay but I learned from our sponsors. It should be obvious that the roads were really intended for an advantage during wartime but people were too busy Z.. To really think about that for a while Germany was actually looking really nice as long as he didn't look any deeper than the surface level. Surprisingly of all Hitler's rhetoric. The Volkswagen was the one that carmakers feared the most they all loved the idea of mass producing a car that literally everyone will want to buy or even better working with the governments to enforce the necessity to buy them after all who doesn't love being both supply and demand but they wanted the cars they mass-produced to be cheap like a three wheeled covered in motorcycle or something. Truly cheap manufacturers hated the idea of building a car just as good as the upper level cars for the price of an entry level car they wanted to make money and Hitler's Volkswagen plan left no room for people to even need to purchase high end models. Not only did they think selling a good car. So cheap was texting technologically logically impossible. They also feared the long term impact of direct government involvement in the automotive market. This is the whole Socialist Party thing right. I think he's trying to pretend like it's for the people but it's really Kinda just for the war effort it's so people can say like. Hey look at all the great stuff. The government's done for us. It's just you know currying loyalty and then Stephen like a thing that I think you know Nazi apologists or like you know pretty racist ankles will say to this day. It's like well. I mean they built a lot of roads big talking point so I think you know it's one is the Mo like so they like you said they could move troops in missiles. And that's like the reason that the Nazis were so successful in those early attacks. It's so easy to like frame. Aim that as it's going to benefit everyone really like it's all about framing exactly. Yeah Hitler knew the benefit of the Volkswagen in an effort to make everyone one in the house. One of Volkswagen he even targeted children He would stock toy stores with model cars to help spark an early interest in automobiles from kids. Even insuring that there's a scale model of his own private limo for them to play with despite his lack of formal education. Hitler believed himself to be an expert. In the automotive field. He loved appropriating others idea as his own lake. Joseph Ganz's design and rarely accepted advice. Especially if the advice came from a non Aaron Person He always said there was only one way eight to make a proper Volkswagen quote. It should look like a beetle. You only have to observe nature to learn how to achieve streamlining most people suspected he just read that in some sort of magazine and memorized it. Either way the teardrop shape of the butyl was all the rage when it came to streamlining cars in the nineteen twenties and thirties. I mean if you look at cars of that age. They're like oh we can't have boxes on wheels anymore. It's like the sleek looks like airflows over it. My favorite thing to do right now. Not Not my favorite. This is the only thing I like to do is go on craigslist and type the maximum years like nineteen fifty and just find how many old cars are out there and it's like Super Fun. That's fun yeah. I like typing. Random things into craigslist flakes. Yesterday I searched street legal list it as being street legal unless it's barely. Yeah I love that yeah. That's amazing in May of nineteen thirty. Three Hitler promised one third of the newly allocated five hundred thousand reichsmarks racing budget. The two Porsche Muno. He had been admirers Porsche for a long time closely following Porsche in racing about a year later Porsche and Daimler dealership owner slash lashed friend of Hitler Jason Morely N- were invited to a private meeting with Hitler in an Upscale Hotel Berlin Hitler had caught wind portions desire. Yeah to create a new kind of car assessable to everyone he shared with Porsche. His desire for a four wheel drive thirty brake horsepower car powered by a three cylinder air cooled diesel engine. There's one limitation though that kept the people's car from reality for years it was the price Hitler clans. The average German citizen was incapable of saving more in One thousand marks about twenty five hundred dollars at the time so the price of the car could exceed that value Porsche agreed to the initial planning of the project in the coming days as he prepared a detailed plan that incorporated every design element. Hitler had asked for the document would later be known. As the expose. This contained the most accurate in precise rendering of Porsche's Volkswagen to that date Porsche wrote quote. In my opinion. A People's caught does not have to be a small cau- vs its dimensions. Power output vate in etc being reduced in the misdirected Mana adopted for previous efforts in this area for me a people's call must be full scale practical motto. That can stand comparison with any other intended for day to day use to. Oh great at people's car. I believe that the fundamental new approach has to be adopted. So that's just a long winded. Say Way of saying unlike. Let's try something new. Hey let's think out of the barn. It was that ah fundamental new thinking outside the Bun approach that would soon lead to the creation of the first beetle prototype. And that's we'll pick up next week in part two the Volkswagen Beetle. Much Fun stuff in this now is probably a lack of jokes. Probably jokes jokes per really low. Talley loved you. Don't WanNa make jokes. Because he bumped everything I think the the main thing I'm learning from this podcast is everybody's I don't want to discount. How horrible Hitler is but Henry Ford is horrible and reform? The second or pancake. deuce is a horrible guy ends. A Ferrari pretty bad guy he can evil evil dead. Ed Huge Jerk smokey eunuch problematic but go down on his wife. 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