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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

Liberty Talk FM

01:49 min | 1 year ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

"I still help people make sure setups are happening. If there's any issues with the campground with stuff going on, I try to make sure things get taken care of quickly and just so that the show goes smooth for everybody. So everybody has a good time and Keep it going, and I encourage people all year long and every year to come back then something sell something even. It's just one meal and you're just making a meal for yourself. You have a couple extra of them. You're like. Oh, I've made too much. Sell a couple of them the people, you know what I mean? Like, get out there. People enjoy it. They want that. It's a great way to meet new people to be part of the community. Bring people in make people comfortable, So it's just It's just a wonderful overall effect. Now you mentioned being the vendor coordinator. But although no, you're not really coordinating vendors. Do you expect to see a return to that? Because, um, so as far as I know, we've been leaning away from it, but it looks like they have some ideas of something stupid going on in the work, So I'm hoping that's not true. But I have not heard anything otherwise from any true source yet. Yeah, it's it's an interesting scenario. At the moment I've been talking with Dennis Pride about it. Evidently, he wants to re close down the park because he considers you know people coming to Rogers Campground during the Porcupine Freedom Festival. To be stealing services if they don't buy a ticket to the poor occupied Freedom Festival, So I, It's sad, but I do expect to see some level of coordination and widespread locking down to return. I'm still a coordinator. I still join in on all their meetings and such and try to influence to just keep Control of the downtown down air time area down in pavilion and stuff like that, like that's ours, But let's keep it all individual, um micro set up like we have now like that works so well. We had We didn't have to coordinate bringing in all the events and all the speakers and all the talks.

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

Liberty Talk FM

06:11 min | 1 year ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

"The 28th through July, the fourth. We're going to be there and it's gonna be great. You know, as I sat here, reading that a bit more and thinking about it. I won't be sad about not spending two weeks at Roger's campground because by the end of that two weeks, I was just mentally wiped out. Yeah, it was a very long vacation. It was enjoyable, but two weeks of it, I'm ready to get back to my life. Yeah, everything that's going on and everything that I missed. Well, let's go to what you might be able to do is remember. Fork fest is decentralized. So it's my understanding The Porcupine Freedom Festival will be starting on That Tuesday. So we've been promoting June 28th. Which is I believe a Monday through July 4th, which is the following Sunday or that Sunday, So they're gonna be starting on the 29th because The Porcupine Freedom Festival hasn't been a full week long event for years. Nest officially will last longer. There's nothing official with Fork fest. There's just what we say. Right? OK, Fair point. If you were, If you were to say Fork fest is going to start on the prior Thursday Now or Friday. Shan Fork fest could then grab The weekend prior to the Porcupine Freedom Festival and the week of the Porky Pine Freedom Festival. Then that would make the porcupine freedom or that would make fork fast a week and a half. Instead of the full weeks and then you'd have to weekends, you'd have a weekend of fork fest where it's just fork fest. Sort of like we used to what? We're well back when it was a pre party in that we were a week prior to the Porcupine Freedom Festival. This would just be like three or four days prior. So that's an option, right? That's sure if you don't want to do a full two weeks you can do Whatever you want, But I would be the only one there for the week prior to the best experience. I mean, there were other campers and stuff, but not necessarily. I mean, if we started saying that we're going up four days early than True for us for fest starts on Wednesday or Thursday or Friday. Or whenever it was that we would decide Todos that so it's just all up to who I mean. Who knows what the actual Fort faster tend to use air going toe. Besides, we're just talking here, right? Like there's two attendees, the difference between us and the average attendees. We have a radio show so so we can promote the times. We can promote times that we want to promote. Yeah, So that's up to us. But I think it's exciting because look aria, there's been some people who have been trying to drive a wedge between certain folks in the free state Project or the New Hampshire Liberty, Migration or whatever There's you understand why I have a bit of hesitation about this particular individual. Don't know which individual you're referring to, But I do like the one that does not like me and refused to come on the air if I was anywhere near Oh, yeah, well, that's the sort of mind it but I mean, it's like that mentality. It's President fit with pork fest. Yeah, I agree with you. But ultimately what's best for the Liberty community is more important than that petty squabble, though. Yeah, and that's what I want to see happen here is, you know Hopefully, the most petty people will stay home. And I think that actually, to some extent happened in 2020. Because the word got out that we were going to be at the Porcupine Freedom Festival and a certain group of people really doesn't like the teen people and you know They stayed home sucks for them. They missed a nice time. Yeah, they had their own little festival in somebody's backyard somewhere. Apparently, that's depressing. Yeah, let's go to the phones. We got Jane calling from Kentucky, genial on free talk live. Yeah, I was gonna talk. But you all kept me on hold 16. Thank you. Oh, you're just gonna complain and hang up way. It's a talk show and we were talking so Anyway. In other news, uh, the creator of telegram has responded. To what these allegations that she really showed us. Didn't she kidding? This lady just threw me off. I mean, we can't control the fact that you called during the previous segment, And with that we couldn't screen your call until the brake the brake. And then as soon as we got the opportunity to we brought you on some people just don't have any patients. I guess they don't want to talk on the radio. That's fine. You don't wanna have hit our national audience with whatever your great ideas we're gonna be. What a shame, Eh? So you mentioned Pavel Durov. He is the founder of Telegram. He is apparently a Russian anarchist. Supposedly now I've never talked with him. But I've always heard that he's an anarchist. Me neither. And but when that was brought up in one of our telegram chats earlier today, we did have will, who is a friend of the show? He did some research and found an article where Yeah, Here it is. So, apparently his views on how to fix Russia on He's says that, based on the his Russian manifesto, I would describe him as an end cap fish. Russian nationalist. So leaning towards anarcho capitalism, But the Russian nationalist part kind of conflicts with that It may mean that he just loves Russia. Okay, you know, like you said, it was loving the land. I suppose I haven't read the manifesto, but he did look through it. So Dura of Responded to all this controversy. We were just reading an article of the guy who was saying I'm not going with that telegram because there's too much freedom on there. They searched the person who wrote the article You read had searched for something and found that there were so many different Disturbing things. I've searched for stuff and I've never found anything that would have disturbed me. Well, you're a little different than the WhatsApp user. I imagine. So they ran back to the safety of Facebook and the safety of whats app. But in my show prep here tonight, I do have a statement by Pavel himself. He says. I have. This is posted to his own channel on Telegram, his official channel, he says, I hear Facebook has an entire department devoted to figuring out why Telegram is so popular. Imagine dozens of employees working on just that full time. I'm house like a pretty cushy job. I'm happy to say Facebook tens of millions of dollars and give away our secret for free respect your users and.

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

Liberty Talk FM

07:42 min | 1 year ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

"To fork fast dot party. We will be there. You're planning on going right now, But Oh, yeah. In fact, there was an interesting, um, discovery today that we learned that apparently the free state project After initially saying they were going to be the week before the fort fast because one of the reasons we waited a couple months before coming out with announcing the dates for fork fest was, we're waiting on to see what the free state project wanted to do with their Porcupine Freedom Festival. And they had initially said that they were going to be the you know the final week of June, which is what they normally do with the Porcupine Freedom Festival. But then today they decided they were going to have their event also June 28th through July 4th, and so it looks like The events are coming together. Porky Pine is in four key finds together again. I think it's great. Yeah, I think that's a wonderful thing. Yeah, I'm excited about it. I I did touch base with some of the Porcupine Freedom Festival organizers today. Now they haven't announced who their official you know, M C organizer. Whatever is going to be But there are still some people who are who are involved that I did speak with one of them today because the big question and one of the reasons why fork fest was formed in the first place in 2017 was There's some people who are disappointed with the direction that the poor confine Freedom Festival was going in with just too much of a heavy security presence, locking down the camp ground no longer just allowing anybody to be just kind of on the campground, camping and you know, having like a security checkpoint and things like that restrictive rules on vendors. And it was last year that they changed all that. And for the better. They made the decision to decentralize the Porcupine Freedom Festival, and they made it. So anybody who wanted to could come to the campground again during the Porcupine Freedom Festival on band camp and not attend officially. The poor kid by freedom. That's what they wanted to they could, but they didn't have to sew that came back in 2020, and also, what came back to the Porcupine Freedom Festival was a decentralized atmospheres for his bending was concerned. Ah, yeah, that had gotten very controlling over the years with the Porky Pied Freedom fest when they decentralized that it was a huge success because they decentralized it. And so the big question today from some of the fork festers was well. Are they going to go back in the more centralized direction in 2021, or are they going to go in the more decentralized direction? It sounds like they're going to continue with the decentralization of the Porcupine Freedom Festival. And if that's the case, and I think it is so far my based on the conversation that I had today It sounds like both festivals can co exist and and co mingle and, you know, do all that peacefully. And I think I think a lot of people will be happy to see that happen because ultimately Again. If you talk to some people, everybody has their own reasons for fork fest right like it's a decentralized festival, so there's no one who's in charge. There's no one person you can go to and say, what's this about because it's about different things for different people, But I think a lot of us Wanted to see the Porcupine Freedom Festival sort of returned to splendor. Return to the golden days. If you will, the Good day. The good old days and the fact that they've they've decentralized, I think shows that the fact that they're willing to come back together. With the fort festers and and all be on the same campground for the same week together. I think that's a good sign. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the wonderful thing. Um, you know, because you know, I I I'm still technically a member of the Free State project and you know, I I love him. And I love my my park. Festive friends and my fork, 50 friends and And, you know, I just want to see everybody get along. Well, everybody's not going to get along. I mean, that's just the way everybody is. They all have their issues with something, but But what's likely going to happen is the people who don't want to get along. They just won't come. Yeah, that's fine. You know, the rest of us will have a good time. Yeah, And it'll be good to go to fork fessed up party right now again slated for June 28th through July 4th of 2021. That's fork fest dot party. Go ahead and lock down your campsite now. You know while you while you got the chance, Go to Roger's Campground book, your campsite book, your RV site or your motel room Because if if it's true that both of these festivals are going to happen at the same time, and it sounds like they are that means you better get your campsite and or motel room right away. Yeah. Now, are they taking reservations today? Are they Is there anybody in the office that Roger's So wintertime hours are very, very limited It Rogers Campground. Obviously, they're not technically open at all during the wintertime here, but they do still, as far as I know, a couple times a week, they will still check voicemails. They will still, you know, Accept reservations now how long it will take him to get back to you? I don't know. I haven't heard from people on how long that takes, but Okay, So when I make my call as soon as I can, because you know now that Bitcoin has made me 1000 air Hey, check that out. Fork fessed up party. We go to your calls and thoughts. David is on the line in New Mexico. David, you're on free talk live. Brief lawyers summary of the final hearing tomorrow at 9 45. But first of all, supporting your previous story quote. I'm going mad, staying at home all the time and not being able to go to school and play outside with life. Can you go ahead and switch your phone? Just go and make a habit of switching your phone over to whatever motive is that is the quieter mood because it's just It's so distorted. It's really hard Tonto handle. Yeah. Okay. Um, Anyway, so Albuquerque Journal articles entitled Shadow deaths of the virus. Those were the words written in the journal School Journal. Um, for project of Landing Fuller of Hobbs, New Mexico. Believe with Hobbs, who? Shortly after writing those words killed himself, 11 years old. Wow. How do you do it? By with the gun. Wow. And anyway and the only my The officer, the medic off medical examiner in New Mexico, said that in the same article in Albuquerque Journal, that, uh, the category unexpected death Was up approximately 20% over the previous year in the march to June period or whatever it was Of this year that just ended, uh, anyway and she, she said she expected that a good percentage of those were suicides. But anyway, so I did that to the Santa Fe, New Mexican. There's a legislative report that came out in December, saying that New Mexico, which has already struggled with the highest suicide rate in the nation, because well, it is one of the poorest places and most highly government controlled. Much of the blame, says he could see a spike in 2020. Much of the blame goes to they say, Cove in 19, which we all know it's actually the government's restrictions. Not Kobe. Kobe doesn't You know, make people kill themselves on did it says here? It's the heavy toll that has been taken on families from illnesses and deaths, toe lost jobs and isolation. The pandemics effects, which against the government's effect has been particularly taxing on Children, teens and young adults. Our lives were turned upside down in 2020 with school shuttered sports and other activities canceled large gatherings with friends prohibited Hang on,.

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

Liberty Talk FM

02:45 min | 1 year ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

"It will be the fifth Fork fest. This year's was the fourth next year. The fifth and it'll be June 28 through July 4th. It is a decentralized libertarian camping festival, and it follows the Porcupine Freedom Festival. Eso Fort Fest will be the week after that, just like it was this year. So this year was the first time that fork test came after the Porcupine Freedom Festival, and it seemed like most people appreciated that change. So that's the way it's going to continue. I thought I thought that would work out well, because it's it's it's best for the for the less publicized thing to follow the more publicized thing because one's once you're there, you know, Once you've seen a week of monarchy, how can you resist staying for a week of Anna? I love that. That's a good that's a good line. Good tagline there, Check out Fort fessed up party. There's an unofficial telegram chat. That's an unofficial website. And there's also an unofficial forum because everything's unofficial with Fort fast. You want to create a competing website right ahead. By all means. You can do that. But there is still a set of rules that do need to be followed was not truly anarchy because there is Roger's campground. It's private property. Turkey is an absence of rulers that absence of rules true, and in this case, you would have chosen your ruler by consenting to going to the campground and agreeing to their their rules and they don't have that many of them. It's pretty Pretty lackluster as faras the rules there Rogers campground so you can create what you want. Maybe you want to put on a show. Lacklustre is the word you wanted. I think AIDS back best lacklustre is like happy, okay? Laidback not enforced. Heavily Wonderful. Ah, it's really a cool place. It's great campground. It's beautiful, and the people are, of course, the reason why you want to go to hang out with liberty minded folks for an entire week. What better way to celebrate Independence Day? Then around other freedom loving activists. You can create the event you want to have happen. So it's all up to the attendees. There's no official schedule, so it's just like whatever you want to do. You don't put on a show. Go right ahead. You want to put on a musical act or a stage show our comedy event or an open mic or karaoke, e or whatever. Go right ahead. It's up to you to create it at four. It's June 28 through July, 4th of 2021 will see their fork fast dot party. All right, So we had some good news in the show tonight and now some not so good news. To finish this one out. I saw a post that an activist here in the area posted to our local keen check room on telegram. Opposed by Governor Chris Sununu, His Excellency here in New Hampshire, announcing the latest not so much Ah thie,.

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

05:56 min | 2 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"News Dot Bitcoin Dot. Lots of INFO check. It out BITCOIN DOT COM in an Aria in our remote studio here at the top of the hill. The beautiful are rogers campground were in the RV's zone. There's also a camping area. We were back there last night, hanging out with Vincent at his fire, walking around. We walked around the whole park. It's a big park here. There's a fair amount of people in it now. How many of them are here for fork fest versus how many? Many of them are just here because they're the park seasonals. It's really hard to to know the difference because well, if you WANNA, know if somebody's here for fork fest. You have to ask them unless they've got some obviously liberty, t shirt or something like that where there signaling that they're. They're part of the free movement, but you know. There was a group of people that were cranking some tool. I guess yesterday over by a couple of the party. Who had showed up, I think yesterday and I said Hey. You guys here for fork fest and they said Yep. And I never met him before, so there's definitely some people in the park who we're not familiar with that are here for forecast, which is a good thing. So wonderful thing I'm I'm glad to see it has been as successful as it has been, and I mean it's only Wednesday. It is only Wednesday and. Essentially the second week of focused began on Monday the first week, which coincided with the Porcupine Freedom Festival started on the twenty second says some of us have been here going on our full second week, and it's been a great experience so far. The park is just full of cool people hanging out getting to know each other an old friends, and and having a good time. It's been great There's news that we talk about here and. We've got a special guest host here, welcome. Because mountaineer eclipse mountaineer is his name. He's our new Sunday night. CO host although you may be moving to Friday maybe not. We don't know we'll figure all that out within the next few weeks, but we've been talking about you know some of the cool things happening here with the vendors for instance accepting crypto currency and gold backs as well. Then there was this cool thing that you announced yesterday area that you have launched. An APP. For Forecast, yes. Well I didn't want the main. It's it's a sourced APP. You can trust it for the APP yes. Yes, there's a there's a company called event defy. That is doing apps and they've got. You know like a system right like they have pieces that you can plug into this system and sort of boil up your own APP. Basically there you can include expert. You can exclude why features and it's relatively affordable to do this thing. We were looking because fork fast. It's decentralized, so there's no central authority. There's no organizers except for each individual that attending. If you want to organize something, then you should. Should do that, but then how do you promote it? How do you let people know that you exist well? They could walk by camp. Campsite, but if you're all the way out at you, know site one eighty one seven miles down in the RV zone. You're not going to necessarily get a whole lot of foot traffic out there, so we'll do. There is the folk fest telegram chat butter is that if you post something there? It's almost immediately going. Going to get shoved off the screen by other conversations. So if you're trying to advertise something there, it's it's just not going to happen correct, and and so the forecast is good for in the moment having conversations live in across the campground. Hey, so and so where are you or I've got this thing? Available were serving breakfast or whatever, but like you said ideally we could get that sort of thing moved to the radios right because they would. would be more efficient for that true. Of course not everybody's always listening to the radio. So so there's a couple of different methods of communication that have been dominant here over the last few years of fork fast. There's two way radios on a specific channel that people share, and then there's also this telegram chant, but the problem with chat rooms and the problem with two ways trauma to as is, it's instantaneous. You weren't listening you. Don't hear it. Whereas with the chat room, at least you can scroll back and you you. You don't have to miss anything in the chat room. If you want to pay attention to it, but that can also be messages. Power the chatroom he get to cluttered, and so it's hard to really see what's going on. There is a forum, but it's fairly underused. There's not a whole lot of people posting to the Forum for whatever he wants to walk around. Accessing Forum while they're at Fort fast well, I mean if that were true that no one would wanna walk around accessing an APP I mean ultimately okay. These are both places where you can go to get a better organization of what's going on in a place, because a forum is better for organization than a chat room because you can have different topics, and that's the idea behind the APP. Is All right well, the forms not working very well, because for whatever reason people don't like forums these days. They like their social media kind of things, and but we don't WanNa. Use facebook. We don't WanNA, use these social media things. I'm actually these days. Centralization is is definitely. Not Desirable, generally, although if someone was to make a fork fest instagram for could use here, that would be fantastic. I don't think anyone's done that yet. I don't think they have so. If you're into the INSTAGRAM, thing, feel free, and there are pictures being posted to the telegram chat and they're usually after the fact, we do like a threat on the forum of Post. All your photos here and then uploaded. We upload them to like. Photos, it worked out very well last year. That seems to have worked pretty well, but the idea behind this APP is well. People are used to APPs number one. That's what they're used to and it. It was kind of inspired by the porcupine freedom. Festival sure they've had an APP for the last I think what three years or something like that that they pay apparently through the nose to this. Pretty Pricey called Hoover W.. H. O. V. A., and it has a nice APP. It is, but trying to get you know just pricing information from them was a monumental headache they wanNA. Yeah They WanNa talk to you I do WanNa Talk? You know hooked with the Sales Guy.

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

Liberty Talk FM

08:41 min | 2 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

"We're not quite done with the two weeks we're going to be done on Sunday here at Roger's Campground for Fork Fest, 2020 the longest Fork fest. Yet is a two week long event started on the 22nd although some people are starting it on the 29th this week. They just showed up here this week or moving towards the weekend where we're going to have independence day, complete with fireworks here. The campground That they put on every year, so we're not doing the fireworks. The campground provides those which would be fun. And then Ari is going to be putting on a concert with her new band, Fudd. Also on Saturday evening, You don't wanna miss that if you could come up and join us. Please do go to fork fessed up party to learn more about the event. It's in an area and now joining us here on the third microphone. Nobody's here. Nobody is here. You've been here this whole time. It's true. It's true that you're a couple days late, arriving to fork fest last week, But you got tied up. Yeah, I got here Tuesday evening. Andi, I've been pretty much drunk sense which is unusual for you. You don't drink that much these days. I don't usually but this has been my week to Ah. I don't know that I've been that drunk. I haven't been like roaring drunk. I've just been Ah, ladies, we're selling wine for $2 a cup as of today. Oh, Okay, well grow. We only take Cryptocurrency. Really? Well, we'll take old backs. OK, You take one gold back. I guess I should say we do not take Dirty war beyond money. Okay, Good. Okay, So what do you take? Gold? Silver Cryptocurrency. Okay, But what was the amount $2? Or cast the line, but you don't take dollars? No, So it's $2 that you won't take. He's pointing at you keep using the term dollars True, then 20.1 Bitcoin cash or whatever. Okay. Or whatever USD is a useful unit of measurement is just not a good currency. What is the U. S D measure? Value. Doesn't That's what until people start talking about value in terms of Bitcoin, and we're not. We haven't crossed that threshold yet, unfortunately, But there have been also say one go back for a cup of wine, but that's in that case, you're paying a little bit more than a little over. You're paying a lot of 30 so much. It's still only $33 is what it comes out to. That's not bad. Yeah, that's 150%. That's 100% above too. Ha three would be 100% more than to be 50%. You're right, That's right. All right. You're gonna have a dollar. I don't wantto. Yeah. And ladies night out is a new tent that did not exist a new ring and no, it's not nude. But new as in. It was not here a week. Questions like that. That cause ladies night out to become a thing. Yeah. What's the history of ladies Night out, Ari. It's new this new this year. This is the first year for it is not this week is that it wasn't there last week, and it's not as big as we like. I'm going to try to, you know, pick anything, but I'm going to try to nominate someone to actually just like head this up, head up the organizing of the event and all of that, Because at the moment there's like nine of us doing it. And only one place he cooks in the kitchen. Yeah, and only one person is actually like here. Okay, that was misogynistic. But I mean, like, right now, there's thesixty and disability talk, which is happening just down the hill Lopez. She's disabled but still wants to do things. I don't know. I haven't heard talk Well, I haven't heard it either. But she did post about it in the Fort Fest Telegram shot, which is one way that people are communicating. With each other here on the campground because we actually do have fairly decent Internet connection up here, and she joined that chat room just a few moments ago, wanted did make an announcement out of trying to find it. Here's rather give her summary rather than trying, Tio. To explain what it is again without having seen the presentation. But it's a great great time. Great excuse to be out here in the beautiful White mountains of New Hampshire. We got new faces actually shown up here today, Lord Porky Pine from the lron dot FM Discord Server just arrived today. Welcome, guys. Good to have a We got a live studio audience as we are recording this episode. Now it is those new faces. So I think those are the same faces. They had last time. I saw their new as in They weren't here yesterday. Okay? Groovy. Yes. Oh, meaning There's been new people who've been showing up over the last few days here at the second week of forfeit, so people who didn't come at all for the first week are now showing up. For for a week number two nights, So that's cool. And you go for fast Stop party and learn Maura about this event. There's some cool stuff happening here. We've got a few people still cooking. Ah, mat Roaches here doing doing chili. Let's see Silver. Dave served us a very fancy dinner last night. What do we have? There was looming cramming pepper. Seven Freaking fantastic food you expect to find on a campground, but it's here, and it's amazing that Lono is doing less ladies night out is doing barbecue Mac and cheese tonight. Excellent. So there's to be choices tonight. Of course, Mike. He's been here since the Porcupine Freedom Festival, and he's been offering various different foods that's actually one of the perks of doing the fork fest. After the Porcupine Freedom Festival or doing the full week of forks, because arguably it is actually week two of four test. But the forecast only weak afterwards because at the very beginning of Fork fest, it's a slow start here, starting from zero. But if you go after the Porcupine Freedom Festival, and you still have a few people who are here who were there the previous weekend would be interesting to see how this turns out is an experimental we weeds out the weak. There's plenty of weed on the campground. It's true. It's true, but but the week free Yeah, after the first week, that's right to be hard for to stay for two weeks. Yeah, it's it's true. So you know all the all the week when one's air gone now only the best of the best. The cream of Yeah. Yeah, the survivors well, and if you end of two weeks and look, two weeks is a long time, So I mean, people, lot of people that got jobs at work. They got to go out and do things But if you could do a 10 day I think the best approach Is to go for the last few days of the Porcupine Freedom Festival because those are the big days Thursday Friday Saturday those the big days at the Porcupine Freedom Festival and then stay for the full next week. Of Fork fest and stay on in through the 4th July on Independence Day celebration. That's the way it should be done, I think ideally, July the fourth weekend will become the biggest weekend period for Rogers Campground, which would obviously involved for confessed happening concurrently. So that would mean that makes the most sense. And it seems like there will be a slow migration toward that over the next few years. That's what I'm hoping for, anyway. Yeah. Because whatever whatever happens to the Porcupine Freedom Festival. We can keep doing this at the same time frame because I don't know. Maybe they'll fold up shop and call it quits for next year. But I doubt it. They had a really good event this year, they made the right choice to decentralize the camping area. So basically the whole camping area was unregulated by the free state Project. They only had the Porcupine Freedom Festival down by the pavilion. And so the rest of this was technically fork fest. Yeah. So I actually paid for their event. First time in quite a while. They let me buy a ticket with golden Axe actually. Groovy, groovy So Hey, nobody. What's it been like here, running a campaign on the grounds. You've got your like, Nobody remembers. He did say he had been drinking a lot. It's true. You've got your elect. Nobody signs up, though, and they they were around and about during the last week. They're on a few different campsites right now, even during Ah this week. Yeah, I've had a lot of interest in those lot of support. I've had a lot of people are telling me that my signs will be going up all over New Hampshire. So so some people have taken the signs home with them. Yeah, you've given some way. Okay, great. There on DH. Some people were picking up signs on their way out. So, like their sole purpose was To display at home. Some of those people are in like Massachusetts, but not and well, it's OK. They should pay for the sun. If they're not in New Hampshire. They should. As a matter of fact, the guys in Ah, in Massachusetts did don't okay, good because those are not cheap signs..

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

Liberty Talk FM

01:35 min | 2 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

"Free talk. Live best. 2020 on what we're recording is day one of week. Number two. This is the week that doesn't contain the Porcupine Freedom Festival, But it does contain some wonderful people who are already here. And we've got a studio audience. Thank you guys for joining us. Feel free to go ahead. Thank you. Thank you Appreciate that. It's nice to be here. It's what is your number four. Of fork festive. We just kind of been talking about festivals, specifically the Porcupine Freedom Festival and Fork fest for fast For those of you who are unfamiliar came from the Porcupine Freedom Festival. It's In the parlance of you know, the crypto world forked from the Porcupine Freedom Festival. It is not an eating convention, as many people seem to have same. No, but there are some food for you here so late. There is food. There is some good food here. There's no doubt anything that comes in my mind is software and forking. Yes, it's kind of I think where the name came from, like idea. Why beware the name around, But I'm goingto fork fast. People like Just your average person. But the logo Johnson used was the was the fork. I mean, the actual he made it look like the like. The hook em horns would like the badass. You know, the Satan hand or whatever the devil's horns or liver. It looks right Metal. The metal? No, that's I love handsome got took in the so check out Fort fessed up party. You can see the logo. Johnson came up with their It's a decentralized event. You want to make your own logo? Go right ahead. You want to launch your own website? Please go right ahead by no means am I the best Web master..

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

Liberty Talk FM

04:03 min | 2 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

"And so this year we're doing for fest afterwards. So Fork fest is now happening after. Well, it sort of attention. The intention was to have four fest after the Porcupine Freedom Festival, but then The Porcupine Freedom Festival roll back and they rolled back, and they decentralized their event, which allowed for Fort Fest actually happen. During the Porcupine Freedom Festival. And so some people started celebrating Fork fest here on this property on Monday, the 22nd So that's why I'm saying this is the second week. I think it was really awesome that they took our lead as Faras, you know. Decentralizing the festival. Yeah, yeah, You know, I'm thinking the people who came for the first week Fork Fest but didn't stay for the 2nd 1 They didn't come to Fort Fest. They came to Roger's campground with the Porcupine Freedom Festival. Well, I don't know if they would agree with you on that so far instead. No, but they're not here, Are they? That's true. Derek J. Freeman is one of those folks and he's a fork fest original. I mean, Derek, if there's anybody who's like The grandfather Fork fest. It's Derrick and Stephen. They were around for Somalia fest back in the day. I was gonna say they came up with the No. No, no, no. Actually, he promoted the name Somalia fest for for the For you. I don't know who came up with that one. He didn't. I'm apparently he told me it was somebody else in Africa who it was, but he's definitely the one who Point it. I think he's the one who promoted it for sure or used it well, and Derek made the point that he didn't attend pork fest because he didn't have a pork fest passed didn't have a Porcupine Freedom Festival passes a good point. He didn't go to any of the Porcupine Freedom Festival related events. He just threw events in the camp ground during for what he considered to be fork fest. He just came to the portion to the part of the festival that was likely going to be the most well attended, and he he also not just him. But other people also attended a part of the fork first week and part of the well was also for fest. But The Porcupine Freedom Festival Week, So it's you know, it's very to say that some of these people really did come for fork fast during that. That that first week there and not for the Porcupine Freedom Festival. So it's not too late for you to join us here at Fort Fast. 2020 again. This goes through this weekend, and we honestly don't know quite what to expect. It'll be interesting to see how many people are showing up this week, just for this week. And at this point in the weak even though you're listening on Wednesday, it's actually still Monday, which is the first day of week number two, so we don't really know. Well, we do know there are dozens of people here and we do know that there are some people who showed up yesterday. I presume some people showed up today. But are you and I We were out running errands today. So we didn't people showed up today. Did where? There's some new faces that showed up today. Did you guys have someone is down there setting up the ladies night? Out her sights. That was not here. Yes. Okay, So, Yeah, We've got new people come yesterday. So right. And the guy who got shot in anarcho Ah, Vegas or not. Vegas Anarchy, Pocho. Hey, not that didn't get shot at the event. I'm sorry. He got shot in Acapulco is one of the anarchists who was living there. He showed up yesterday. Super interesting. So we had some really interesting conversations last night, and he's obviously got an interesting story to tell. I hope we can grab him and And have him come tell that story on the air because it's a crazy crazy situation. So we were talking in the last segment about, you know, decentralized, advanced versus centralization. And this this Hoover app that you called them today, Or did they call you or did you call them? They called me s O u must have sent in something on their website about their stupid form. Trying to get a price quote. I mean, it looks like it'll be like 1000 to $2500 anyway. Well, and you looked at. They didn't tell you that. You look that up online right to see what other People have paid for it. Apparently, they charged per person..

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

07:17 min | 2 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Live we're at. One twenty on what is finally. Navy the first day of work best or maybe day number eight. It is at least the first day. We say that we can say. It is the first day of the second week or the negative. Yeah and actually wrote a story at Freakin DOT com. About when did folk fest start? Some people are saying it was Monday the twenty second others saying Monday the twenty ninth. This is the nature of decentralisation is not everybody is going to be on the same page. I tend to subscribe to the idea. That forecast was two weeks this year, and that we are now entering in the second week of four fest the week. That does not contain the PORCUPINE Freedom Festival. What do you think, are you? That's the position I would take I. I consider this Fast Day nine or whatever I guess. Yesterday was a sort of an interlude. I don't today as for fast or the PORCUPINE Freedom Festival. Festival, but just sort of a in between them. Yeah, it was a transitionary kind of day basically and that and that was something that I think that we wanted to do, originally was give a day between the events to where people can leave, and people can come in and get set up if they were just GonNa. Come for the second week. They could come yesterday. And you know set everything up or take down. Some some folks have done, but they're still few food vendors here. There are which is a good thing now they're not I. Don't think they're all running twenty, four seven or anything like that, but silver. Dave is cooking tonight. We ordered some fancy dinners from him. He's doing. Crack Pepper Salmon or And it sounds good that is. Good I can tell you already that knowing knowing the quality level of Dave. It's like you don't expect this kind of food at a campground plus Caesar Salad's not Caesar dressing. And what did he call them? Sweet Potato Banal. Yeah, yeah, he did. Yeah. We're looking forward to it. In fact nunes hanging around I'm sure we're going to get him on the air here at some point. This evening or maybe tomorrow, but because we're just recording the shows for those of you, just tuning in. You're listening to our Tuesday night show it was Sunday when we were doing the earlier portion of the program. It's now Monday afternoon and we are here. In this beautiful location at Rogers Campground in the northern white mountains of New Hampshire. You and I had a few errands to run today, so we got it. We got a little bit of a late start, but that's alright. There's still all kinds of interesting. Four thirty in the afternoon. Now I'm hey, it's been a productive, but nonetheless we didn't start until like eleven thirty. So, there there was that and last night was a really great You know, hang out night. There were smuts. Folks in the park and people were just Chilin hanging out at picnic, tables and groups that his largest, maybe thirteen or so. It was nice. I just rest it last night. Yeah, I mean that that's right. You were in most of the night. You didn't get to experience that, but I took a few pictures we'll. We'll post those her name nights to experience it though. But what I mean is with that first night slowness. You had enough time to get caught up on some stuff. You took a time for yourself last night, and that's because things that's slowed down like it wasn't. We had to run everywhere and get everything done as I like Oh my God i. don't have stuff to do within the next hour I'm just going to relax and as somebody who has attended every forecast. This has been the busiest man well I would say it was about on par with your typical start, although with more food. Food like as far as normally at fork fest the first day there's there's there was no food. Except for last year last year was the first day we had some food for the first time, but year one and two I don't think it happened on the first day. Sure just because it was growing event, there weren't that many people people didn't know what to expect. And this year we had at least three people, maybe even four that were offering food hot food last night on what was essentially like you said the transition night so? My down here had pasta. I think Jay was making. was cooking last night there was a lady with hotdogs and Matt Roach I'll have straight, and then later had some some food. So that's five right so for night zero overnight one of two. That's pretty good. Because essentially what happened was the porcupine freedom festival went for a week and folk festivals, also happening at the same time, the Porcupine Freedom Festival ended Sunday morning, and so a good chunk of the population of the park cleared out including almost the entire. Camping zone now there still starting to fill back in though because a lot of these I mean those cars intense weren't there yesterday? Yeah I. I barely see anything there right now, but the RV area is still there still dozens of people I would say in this area I. Mean I I'm not going to say one hundred, but maybe there's a lot of you know if you walked back there. There's still a lot of places by the way dukes joining us. Hey, duke it. I mean it makes sense. If you're going to stay here for two weeks, you're going to want an RV site or motel room. Of People, that are all the way talked back there enjoying the. Well. You can't really tell see that's the thing. There's not like some sort of wristband that forecasters have right, so the mark of. Now that we did bring Shire Society Lanyard, so those are available, but obviously it's. It's optional, so he's going GonNa do that. Some people have It's nice to have a lanyard I'm so people don't have to ask you the question of what was your name again? I. It's hard for people to ask that question. Sometimes it is an and you meet so many people here that a name tag is almost necessary is helpful. Yeah? A conference conferences do that on purpose just makes it more efficient to well. They used to do it at the porcupine freedom festival long time ago, and at some point. Somebody decided they didn't want to do that anymore, and it probably couldn't afford it. It's named. They can definitely afford name tags. Because the thing they replaced them with was like these custom made. Response. So they can do both yet. Are Cheaper than response. I'm just GONNA go out on a limb and say that because what you can do is you can sponsor. You can sponsor the lanyard right so you can have somebody pay to be your lanyard sponsor. And then you've got all your costs covered for your name tags, the only problem with name tags. If you pre print them, and then you have to organize them, and then you have to look for the person's name or whatever. Just head of a pin that solves that problem. Name Tax let somebody write their own name on there, which is actually nicer thing to do anyway, then they can customize it right. Right, whatever proper way to solve the problem, some people you know when when I was organizing key invention, we did do printed tags, but also when someone was signing up, I said put, there was a field where you could put your form username so we. We printed people's Forum user names on their name tags. If they want it that way, you knew that Joey was so and so on the forums as well. Yeah, very very useful. People should be able to write what they want. So you know we do things different here at forecast and what that means is. Everything is decentralized. There's no one who's in charge of this event, and that does lead to some things like people. Hey, you know asking the chat room. Hey, what's going on out there? Shane forks we don't. Start. No one agrees. Yeah well,.

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

Liberty Talk FM

05:59 min | 2 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

"It's almost sub leasing them. Run away from from Rogers. And there was a time when they you know, they got away with it. The demand was hot enough for this area, and people wanted to be here real bad, so they paid whatever the fees were. And then, as tends to happen with Central, you know, sort of centrally organized events. Things go in a different direction, meaning that They kept going in that direction of more control. Right? So they said, We're not only going to charge for these spaces, but now there's all these rules. So not only are you paying for the space You have to follow extra rules. And, you know, purportedly some of the rules were there for good reason, right? That's why rules are made. Well, That's what everyone who makes rolls and but what making you wear masks because of good reasons. Thankfully, that's not happening here. But But in this case, the rules cranked up. The fees went up right, And so what they ended up doing was they drove away the market they literally drove through central planning. They drove the market away from the Porcupine Freedom Festival, Zagora Valley, and last year they went on a road that was like five roads down. So it was like the road just outside of the official Agora Valley's own. And they set up their own thing. So the vendors got together and they said, Well, let's just set up over here, and we'll call it such a beautiful microcosm of the state well and ugly at the same time, right, But they did the right thing. They moved the market they kept. They stopped putting up with the the rules. And they said, Well, we can have no rules that we just move over here. And so that's what people did and what they call it the where it's at ST or zone or something like that. It was called where it said they had signs up. I didn't come to the Porcupine Freedom Festival last year. I only heard about this second have probably from you, but I don't know what they were calling. They had, like those yard signs. You know that you can custom print. You think you've got some aria for sheriff. And so they said, where it's at on there. So as though you couldn't tell. But yes, he was clearly that was the that so that was lined with vendors and hangouts and whatever nice and so I want to do that this year, even though there's no real reason to, But that's the thing. The organizer's I think finally, and there's a different organizer this year. Carla Garrett, She's back from the old days. And so she can remember the old days when they didn't have these rules. So she decided effort. You know, we're just going to drop all the rules. We're going to drop trying to centrally manage the campground. And the Porcupine Freedom Festival is now just in event that happens on the campground. It is no longer like domineering the rest of the realestate. And so now people can set up without paying fees, and they don't have to follow anything. But the camps campgrounds rules, so it's kind of a throwback. To the old Porcupine Freedom Festival in a lot of ways and so kudos to them for for making that decision. It was. The market was definitely demanding it and I'm I don't know if it was because of the market demand or also because of Cove. It Because that was cited as a reason as well, that they had to cut things back. But I think that it was the right choice to make Tio things back to decentralize purpose. I would agree. And, you know, we're still very early in this. What is today? Tuesday? Yeah, right now. It is Tuesday, but our listeners will hear this on Wednesday. And it's already a pretty good sized crowd, and we're nowhere near the weekend by Thursday. That place is going to be a hat. I think it is. That's that's that's what I'm feeling here. I feel like there's a least a couple 100 people here already. Minister. I mean, we haven't even been back there to the campsites. Idea how many people are at all? Well, Plus, you know, there are also the park regulars who are here is well so one of the relevant metrics would be To ask the Porcupine Freedom Festival. How many tickets actually showed up. So if they sold 750 Chris always get walk ins, right, So you sell in advance, And then people just show up. So how many people at the end of the week? Actually, we're here. That's an important number. Also Crosby, the owner of the park in say, Well last year at this time, we had this many people in the park. And this year at this time we had sex right. So compare those so there are some ways to get some idea. But during during Fort Fest, it's also going to coincide and forecast started. There's nothing official, but some people started it. Yesterday I started it. Some people will be starting at this coming Monday. But regardless you know if you can get up here, you don't want to miss out on this. It's going to be a great event, and it's going to be a memorable two weeks. Yeah, I think so, too. I'm looking forward to it. There's I think there's a good vibe here so far. With the exception of one drunk guy last night. What Excessively truck guy? He did not have good vibrations. I think he thinks he has good vibrations. But, you know, Well, maybe maybe it's the mask the massacre, interfering with his I think so. I think so. I mean, I think the masks interfere with this. Like the bearded guy, but looks like we talked about yesterday. You know things like that They mess with you. I think that the masks mess with like human connection period. I think it's very hard. To understand somebody as well as you could. If you can't see their facial expressions, you can see their lips moving Certainly, And I mean, they're talking through cloth as well. So they're automatically muffled and you can't get any Q from them about whether they're smelling something. Maybe you can Maybe their eyes wrinkle or whatever. But I think youse are minimal is not a human interaction. Will my eyes might wrinkle if I were angry? A swell, you know, so I don't know. But it is something that I'm glad we don't see a whole lot here That said, it's definitely on the conversation Topics, right? Like as I've gone around that has come up right to the masks and all that people. People here feel pretty strongly and I would say they feel pretty strongly against the masks from my experience so far. If they felt strongly in favor, I would ask that they would be wearing them. So I'm looking around the same people not in mask. It's refreshing. The place isn't out the work campsite.

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

02:48 min | 2 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"N. DOT FM joining you in the studio tonight it's Ian and lumpy and mark talking about the future of retail, and well at least according to short term projections. It isn't looking so bright for a lot of store, owners and employees out there especially if you're in a mall. You're going to have it. You've already been having a tough time now. It's even worse. You're lucky if you're going to be able to reopen and have any customers come back in according to industry analysts, group core site research, so we continue here we'll take more of your calls and thoughts. You can bring up anything that you want to discuss here on free talk live, but coming up in less than a week we are. Are just several days away from the beginning of fork fest, which is now a two week long event we had been promoting it as a one week long event, from June twenty ninth until July fifth, but now some are starting their fort fests, celebrations on June twenty second, and we're going to be there to join them. Free Talk Live going to be kicking off broadcast mark. Have you figured out when you're going there? I was intending to go up on the weekends and sort of you know. Show up on Friday evening leave on Sunday afternoon. That's nice that you finally let me know about that now. I know what to expect out of you so free talk live will be there broadcasting on starting on Monday, and we will be there every single day through the entirety of the event, and then there's another event happening to the Porcupine Freedom Festival. That'll be in the first week, so he'll be taking calls. It's impossible to take calls from the campground. We unfortunately will not be live. Those will be two weeks. In which the only way you'll be able to get on. The show is to be there so if you want to join us on a third microphone or something like that and sit in for a segment and talk about something That's cool. We can do that, but there's the technological restrictions on the campground. Basically make it so we have to do it that way, but it'll still be good, and we'll still have always good, and we'll have fun, and you'll have a good time if you're at fork fest, I suspect because well first of all. What else are you GonNa? Do I mean what how many other festivals are going on this summer? Because I know? They canceled burning man. And I know they've canceled a lot of concerts Kevin. Kick ass was telling me that you know. A bunch of shows have been just all the whale watching in province town Massachusetts doors. What's the point of that? Or concerts well, if if the concerts outdoors. Would, have as an outdoor event shouldn't be a place that it's going to be that bat. They are restricting outdoor events and I. Don't know if it's the government who's doing it or if it's the event promoters, this horizontal pressure that we're talking about societal. Pressure from.

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

07:32 min | 2 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Which is where our next caller is waiting. Because when you call on dischord you sound almost like you're sitting here in the studio with us we got Four call in lines right there at the top of the list of chat rooms that we have and we have go pal avarice or die is on the line in California on discord go ahead. Hey how's it going guys? Hi there. Should we call you go pal for short or do we have to say the whole thing? It's like go pau how you pronounce it. Go Paul Paul. Yeah there you go. Paul McCartney good so we'll talk about tonight go zone Paul. No like so many other people out here stuck in the machine. I have aspirations. No I have in my tag here my handle but I am a corporate pawn. You know right now just keeping my head down and go into my Uncle Sam job you now but at least I have plans of moving. At least I know at the Free State project is and I have my plan to move to New Hampshire and I've been a vendor address daily once I just wanted to. I was just wanted to chime in from a yoga perspective. Who would just caution against So and no means strictness or any perfect preacher of of any any sense I just wanted to say was From a eastern philosophy they would they would caution against eating meat and voting in general because these things are just waste of time and not considered to be in the mode of goodness Well I don't know I mean if more than half the people were coming out and voting for Ron Paul. That would send a very powerful message. I met Ron Paul in two thousand eight when he had his gathering in. Dc HALF is signed flagging my room here this day. You know nobody. Did you hear the news that just in a mosh is now thrown in his hat into the Libertarian Party presidential? Oh He's made it official. Yeah interesting happened yesterday. C. I definitely not Motley Caucus material. But but I mean I I I like. She's got a BNO. It's is interesting to see if we go a mosher vermin. Yeah I'm I'm still firm and go vermin supreme all the way. So what else did you want to say today by the way? How would you describe what an algorithm is? An Algorithm is just somebody that does a consensual prophets not all prophets are back. It's consensual voluntary profits without any taxation from the state without any connections of the state. So are you doing agritourism? Do you have a side hustle? I do have some algorithms asterisk activities that I do that. I don't feel like I'm at liberty to just give out on the radio makes sense makes i. I've always had known sin I've always done them in a piece. Cool anything else you WANNA share tonight. Well I just wish I could see guys out there at work best. This time you know maybe a little bit I Free Talk. Live is going to be at the Porcupine Freedom Festival. We haven't been there for a few years several years without. Why is that? But we're going to be at four fest. Which IS THE DECENTRALIZED ALTERNATIVE FESTIVAL? That is going to be happening. June twenty ninth until July fifth and that is going to be the place where lots of the cool folks are going to be hanging out because there's no one who's in charge if you like algorithmic than this is truly the festival because you don't have to ask permission to set up shop. Yeah this is why I didn't. I didn't know pour une cool at this. It's not gonNA stay for both weeks. We have it on on a jas of links and I enjoy both experiences. It's just pork fast. Feels a little more. Men are kissed and fork. Fest feels a little more an or porcupine. Freedom Festival is rare. It's centrally planned. I mean they they have this thing. You mentioned it. It's Agra Alley which came about. Its Own Volition. It kind of was created naturally. And Are you taking a Toke there? just curious. I hear noises. Sorry I can see nobody vaping on the discord yours louder. There's way larger than his you're ripping it anyway What happened at the Porcupine Freedom Festival? Unfortunately was this thing called Agra valley or alley or whatever it was called Came about naturally because that's where people were setting up shop because it was kind of like the path where everybody was walking down to get to the pavilion where all the the The events happening and so it became this sort of desirable real estate and people you know the they'd sign for that real estate. What a year in advance as soon as the border pine free investable was over. They would lock in their campsite for next year because it was really good real estate and eventually the Free State Project Organizers. Got The idea of well. We should monetize this. And so they went ahead and they bought up all of that real estate and then resold it to the people that wanted to win there and then they came with a bunch of rules and that came with higher prices. Your after your wows increased the the benefits decreased. Like it used to be. You'd get like four passes to the event and they cut that down to two passes and I think they cut it again or something like that and so it really turned off a lot of people and I actually had the pleasure of attending the Porcupine Freedom Festival in two thousand nineteen for the first time in several years and I enjoyed it still a good event. It's just that they hadn't learned their lesson. The organizers hadn't figured out that they should just let this thing go and the marketplace actually punish them for it because not only has the porcupine festival had a tough time getting as many attendees as it did say six or seven years ago but also the vendors evacuated from Agra Valley. This time there were almost no. I've heard it called both I call it Agro Valley and someone or call it Agra Alley and some correct valley and it's been great but either way that play grateful dead shows. We call it a shakedown street. Yeah but in this case okay but in this case it was empty. There were literally two vendors that showed up and shake on shakedown street. Not last year town it sounds know-how poke around. Did it work though? No one was buying these spaces and what the marketplace did was. They created their own alley. They created something called where it's at which was a few few of the The streets down just like these little streets with RV Park area and so a few streets down was out of the valley. Then they had this big area where all the vendors were set up. They didn't have to pay any extra. They rented the campsite and set up. 'cause they can't control you idea of people gathering together and trading. Yeah I mean. That's a lot older than any organization. We're involved so yeah. Unfortunately the porcupine freedom festival is sort of lost. Its way a little bit over all the years. But that's one of the reasons. Why fork fest came about three years ago and this'll be the fourth year for fork fest. You can afford fessed up party. That's F. O. R. K. Fort Lake forking off from Fork Fest Dot Party June twenty ninth through July Fifth Register. Now hopefully will see you there.

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

04:47 min | 2 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Four five zero three seven three three tonight. It's Ari Vincent and this is Joe Exotic. Guess what mother. That was awful awful fast. Sorry just right here watching practice that in the commercials and then try it. I dare from how do country from Oklahoma. I have no clue Jeff Jeff. Low in the show does a remarkable joe exotic compression. Yeah he does. He's had plenty of practice to chase them around Honest trailers tiger king is what we were watching the break. It's awesome you were watching. I was listening. I I look forward to watching it later after the show here now yes. I'm GONNA play it again to break to. I'll be outside during that. That'll be fine okay. But Tiger King Definitely worth watching for people who are stuck at home quarantined with nothing better to do. I mean at this point. Half of America has seen this thing. There's a Waco documentary out now as well. No I didn't know that I don't think it'll be as successful as tiger king because it doesn't have the perfect mix of crazy cats and meth that you find in Tiger King. Tiger king was really well done. I kept watching and I couldn't stop watching. I don't spend a lot of time on the whole reality. Tv thing. I did watch my big fat Gypsy wedding or something like that. It's probably ten years ago. One I did find that one amusing but This is it. It's it's compelling point after compelling point after compelling point they line them up and knock them down through this and. I thought I'd never stopped enjoying it. I thought it was weird. It was going to get with the tiger cult right. It cannot possibly get and then he runs for president. I don't think is entirely a spoiler but I don't want to go too much farther because they're probably half. The population has not seen it and I did get to see one particular shocking part without having been given any warning that it was going to happen and I would like to share that with people. That Hey I didn't know anything about any of it except that it was wild when I sat down to watch house all right. I'm going to see what people are talking. The one morning I'd had from somebody is freedom. Ain't free mark. It made me have to go watch all it's true. I mean if you're from the standpoint of somebody on the outside of libertarianism they do understand to some extent that you know if you're going to have freedom people are going to do dumb things. Freedom is the freedom to do dumb things at its heart because if something's not committing aggression against people right but I mean everything that we consider to be sort of a smart and acceptable and social behavior today. Two hundred years ago I mean. Are you know some some period of time? In the past we had to disabuse people of that of their particular notions that were considered completely acceptable. And all that other stuff society changes and you have to be able to have the freedom to try new things and most of the new things are going to look pretty dumb sure. Well let's go to the phones. We Got Lonnie calling from California Lonnie. You're on free talk live. Hello Hey what's on your mind. I wanted to ask your advice for someone that is coming to work. Best for the second time That wants to remain in the Shire besides the saving your money and getting on the Forum Porcupine Freedom Festival right. Yeah absolutely and you're wanting to move to New Hampshire this time you're wanting to basically out for the freedom festival and just never go back. Yeah wondering why you guys while your thoughts on that well. That's what I did. A lot of people have come for the Porcupine Freedom Festival in decided to stay. It's important to know that the Porcupine Freedom Festival is not New Hampshire and you is not a nonstop Porcupine Freedom Festival. That would be an important right right right right. Yes I mean my first question. Do the President Carlo was just mainly about work but he was like you know just figure it out in person and I think that was pretty good advice but you know I always risky entice. If you don't have the resources to figure it out. Yeah take advice to not have a plan to show up in wing ID Armenian. I mean yeah so I just like. I'm just like my.

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

03:36 min | 2 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Fast DOT party. That's fork fast. Dot Part EPA. R T Y. You know Taryn Lupo. I don't think you've probably met him yet. I have not. He's an interesting guy. He did some co hosting with us for a little while he used to live in this region of New Hampshire. He now lives up in the northern part of the states. We haven't seen him okay down here in a while but he was a regular porcupine freedom festival attendees. He used to throw a party every single year with a different themes one year it was pirate themed. Another year was like eighties theme so he's always throwing a big party at the porcupine freedom festival this year. He joined the folk fest. Chat Room at. You can go to fork fest partying. There's a link to the telegram chat room there and he announced that he was no longer going to be attending the porcupine freedom festival that he was going to begin attending fork fast instead. And he's going to throw his party. He has forked himself. Yeah he's Gonna. Throw his party that he throws every year at fork fast instead of the porcupine freedom festival and he came up with great name because again forecast. It's a decentralized thing so like you want to call it something else you can call it something else. And there's no official name for this thing. It's just at the time of the year when these libertarians. Get together at this campground. So he's calling it pork fest. Classic I thought was the cool super cool regional recipe bro. Yeah I love it because it really did have in twenty nine thousand nine which was its third year. So this'll be. Its fourth year this year but in two thousand nineteen it really captured the feel of the old porcupine freedom festivals and I had been going to the porcupine freedom festival since two thousand seven. So I've been to quite a few of them and it really did have that vibe to it especially on the penultimate night of the night before the last night of the forecast last year and then what happened was the last night. Some of the Porcupine Freedom Festival people started showing up to kind of get set up the day before because it used to be. That fork fest came before I forget because all these porcupine freedom festival people were there like their security staff showed up there puttering around on golf carts and they started putting up their porcupine freedom festival signs and the rules for the Porcupine Freedom Festival. And so this this. I Dunno this feeling a came across the festival and it just Kinda died fork fest kind of went away that that final night kill total buzzkill. The the the vibe was totally different on that last night. It was like real quiet. Everybody was in bed early. There was no late night whereas the night before that it was like four in the morning. Things are strong. Everything's going good. There's like the Party Panthers Dome. There's all these things happening. So now that the festivals are reversed. I mean the Porcupine Freedom Festival is going to happen. Then the transition's GonNa happen into fork fast. Yeah and then once forecast is over. It's over so it's going to be interesting feel this year. It's very different and I'm excited about it. I have to just share a little thing. So I'm friends with some folks in a band out of Colorado. The Denver area called M. F. Ruckus and. I'll let you decide. And they have great me. There are rock and Roll Party. Band rightly one of the greatest live bands ever seen. I'm surprised they're not doing better than they are. There really good man anyway before they were called M. F. Ruckus. They were called fourth year freshman and they spelled it all weird to like F. O. R. T. H. Y. E. R. fresh obvious reasons. But it occurs to me that I'll be attending fork fest.

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

10:27 min | 2 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Eight five five four five zero three seven three three. You're invited to fork fest. Two Thousand Twenty the fourth annual fork fast. It is not centralized libertarian. Camping Festival. In the White Mountains of New Hampshire very beautiful location called Rogers. Campground This coming twenty twenty four fests going to be. I think it's GonNa be the biggest one This year was bigger than I expected it to be. It grew quite a bit between year. Two and three. This was the third year this year and I expect effect is GonNa grow more into twenty twenty plus. It's now going to be happening later. So it's going to be two weeks later than it was this year because previously in the last three years fork. Fest happened before the Porcupine Freedom Festival. Which is the festival? That forecast forked off of and in two thousand twenty. It will be happening after the Porcupine Freedom Festival festival so it will actually be warmer considering that it was actually pretty chilly when we first showed up at Forecast this year. It's it's cold in them. They're white mountains. Even at the end of springtime. Sometime in New Hampshire so we will actually be into the summertime. We'll be a good solid week into summer When forecast starts in two thousand twenty and it will be going all the way through to Independence Day? So it's actually GonNa Be June twenty ninth through July fifth so Independence Day will be the final full day. The final night of fork. Fast Twenty twenty. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. Yeah it's GonNa be great and another aspect is that essentially we can market for fest. All the way through the porcupine freedom festival is on the week before correct to you. Know people are up there looking for a good time and they stay. Yeah and there's no ticket because there's no central board of organizers there's no bureaucratic nonsense. There's no control that you would expect from a festival there's no again Access that you you just have to pay for the camping site with the campground follow the campgrounds rules. And there aren't many of them. You're GONNA have a good time. It's great event go to forecast party. It's unofficial websites they not too many Too many rules this place. Let's people open carry guns. Well yeah they do. It is a matter of fact I've seen people that Open carry guns and they don't seem to care too much about marijuana use in you know it's it's a pretty laid back campground. I I like it. So get your reservations in now because the or as soon as possible because the campground around for decades has had a history of doing a fireworks show on Independence Day weekend. And so there's going to be other people in the park besides forecasters so so it's going to be bigger not just because forecast is going to get bigger but also because other people who don't even know that we're GonNa be there are going to be in the park as well so it's it could be. I'M NOT GONNA say it's a sell out but Parks going to be pretty busy on that on that weekend. So you want to reserve your space sooner rather than later fork fest. Party can link over to a telegram chat room forecast forum and connect with some of the other forecasters there. Let's go to your calls and thoughts. We're talking about Uber and lift and whether or not they are independent contractors or the the people that work there or drive rather are independent contractors or employees. You can also bring up what you want. Let's go to the phones to the fun Jerry's in Myrtle beach listening to W. R. N.. Hello Jerry Hey it's Gary but that's gary go ahead sir. Yeah no problem That guy that called in is another Mad pissed off taxi cab driver. I'm GONNA newburgh driver and driving for for several years and you're absolutely right. They'RE GONNA THEY'RE GONNA end up ruining sales if they keep treating their drivers or support support systems think drivers and so on. But but listen. If you're an employee then they're they're pulling payroll taxes out of your which they don't you art. Pardon everything you said is exactly right and he. I get the Middle Finger from these taxicab drivers all the time. Because they've had they had a monopoly on this industry for decades gate and now they got some complication. They don't know how to deal with it and now they're all pissed off because you know you've got guys out here that are that are killing him and and all I can tell you that capitalism if you believe in a adjustment adapt you know they gotta do what they gotTa do they are. They would rather use the violence silence of the state to protect their position. I mean if all you've been getting as the Middle Finger you've lucked out. Some of these uber. Drivers have had their cars attacked physically physically by cab. Drivers by angry cabbies smashing out you know. They're they're brake. Lights for instance Boxing them in to try to keep them on the side of the road road and just to harass them as many ways as possible. I mean it's outrageous. Yeah I agree I I mean I've had more than the Middle Finger I have one low-grade me up beside dive me and try to run me off the road one time because he was all mad at me and everything but you know that's fine I don't have any I don't get mad whenever you're showing your but that's clogged up. My desk came in there pointing at Modesto Him. And I'm like okay. Do they want. You pointed that Dashcam that'll diffuse time. They kill out but anyway I just wanted to go in there and say he's full of it. You know we're out there. We're we're trying to make a little extra money. SOME PEOPLE FULL-TIME I. Don't I've been doing it for over three years now and it's it's a great way to make a little extra money although I when I first started I was making more money than I am now and I'm getting down to because it's always saying when I started it was like twenty fifteen or something. It was eighty percent and then they cut it to seventy five percent. What are they paying out these days? You know I'm not real sure but I've definitely seen The the memos that come over to you that there's been they don't tell you they're cutting pay they give you a little memo saying am. There's been a change in their policy. And you gotTA agree to it. We've made it just spells which I don't read it. I thought your and do my thing and whatever but yeah but you're absolutely right. Let me tell you something. You call for an Uber especially here in little beat Very rare you're wait ten minutes because there's everybody everybody in our brothers down here is just doing. That's another reason why there's been such reduction and take is there's just so many people doing it but You call for a taxi and you're GonNa be white so you know these guys if they want they want to compete now figure it out. I can take jerry great call. Thanks for sharing your experience with us here tonight so again. He's he's he's not a huge fan of Uber and lift. He's got critics criticisms about how they handle support for their drivers and their big big company. There are massive corporation. They're not great but they did. Innovate better than the CABBIE's did than the you know the cab companies I mean the cab companies. Don't listen to the CABBIE'S I made sure. Let's be serious. I mean to target the cabbies themselves but the companies but some of the Cabbie says he pointed out are very bad very bad behaving individuals and they'd their anti Thai this competition. Let's go to don in Michigan listening to Wbz K.. In Battle Creek on FM. Go ahead on okay. yeah I've really only got one. Variance was with Lift Not Uber. Lift driver or rider as a writer and I can tell you about that after you know after. I've done with my other comment. It's like I'm not very experienced with them. It wasn't as I thought it was cracked up to. But what I want to talk to you guys about is ago and it took me a while to catch your phone number because I was driving you guys were going on about time and a half yeah and Benefit and you know I hear you guys bounce stuff off each other and I don't want to call you a couple of idiots but Your uninformed you really okay what are we talking about okay. So what's your missing here is the I you know I I worked in a factory and I've been there for a while else right now I am. I was at one time salary and in management and you guys were talking about. Oh the government makes you offer this. The government makes you do this and that you we have to pay time and a half well We value our employees. You know if we get somebody new in there Doesn't don't know what they're doing. We pretty much have to find somebody that Danville just got really muffled. I don't know if you moved your phone away from your mouth or something like that but it's hard to yeah I. I think they would taking off my coat. 'cause I just came in the house. Okay go ahead so anyway like I said when we get a new employee in their We have to have somebody pretty much fulltime sell hurt themselves. Sure they'll somebody else. They will turn a whole lot of product into junk in no time at all uh-huh because they're trained and they know what they're doing and when we have more work until we don't bring somebody else to do that. Work for straight. That's great we love to have her do it because it's cheaper. I'm glad to hear that. And there's certainly some companies that don't mind doing that. I didn't mean to say that all companies behave the same way but would you agree that there are definitely companies out there who will do everything they possibly can usually. It's low skill L. Jobs right like try retail retail restaurants or fast food. Yeah it probably even even some of these jobs you gotTa have people know what they're doing You know we value our employees. We offer Benefits we offer Health Insurance Vision Insurance Dental we WANNA retainer -tainer place not only matching on a 401k plan we offer defined benefits program. Because I'm really glad to hear that we don't need to go through all the benefits but I appreciate Shit Appreciate what you're saying. We're not we're not doing a pitch. Fear Eric if you're saying that the high skilled jobs are more likely to treat their employees better right but I mean you know everybody on. This show has worked a crap job and these crap jobs often do exactly what you were saying. Avoid paying people they match it forty hours. That's the end of the the time and a half that you're you're glad don that you work for such a great company man. Thank you for calling in sharing that with us. We'll see you tomorrow night. Join US online. In the meantime over Free Talk Live Dot Com couple people calling in right. Now you're calling too late call earlier in the show and we will get you on C. Tomorrow Balance of nature changing the world.

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

04:07 min | 3 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

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"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

Liberty Talk FM

10:11 min | 3 years ago

"porcupine freedom festival" Discussed on Liberty Talk FM

"Can call on the discord on air call in line rooms over a discord dot dot f._m. which is my preference i prefer if you would call that way because you'll sound better and if you sound better it's just more pleasant to talk to you and if it's more pleasant to talk to you might stay with us a little bit longer just because you sound nice with you in the studio it's ian derek j. johnson jay johnson and i think it's all of our first shows back since the porcupine freedom festival welcome back are we really back at i still feel like i'm there you do still feel a yeah it's like when you step off a boat and you have those sea legs still feel the vibe word i i am feeling high on life and really good about this relaxation and great weekend two weekends we got it was really great both fork fest twenty nineteen and the porcupine freedom festival in fact literally seconds maybe just moments before we went on the air here i did publish a review of both of the events on free dot com which i referred to the porcupine freedom festival as historic yeah doubt and the reason why wasn't because of the attendance the attendance was not near its its peak which was probably like twenty fourteen or twenty thirteen somewhere in that somewhere in that area for further where i think it at one point hit just over seventeen hundred people it was probably closer to about a thousand this time around the the history because by the way i'd like to add in that numbers don't mean a whole lot about whether an event is good or not so for instance we had keen venture in here in town and i don't think that ever hit more than one hundred fifty people in its in its best year and it was a really great intimate little convention Yeah. so just because just because an event doesn't reach the numbers that it has once reached doesn't mean that it's a failure or that it's bad the vibe was fantastic the people that were attending the porcupine freedom festival were good crowd it was a good group of about a thousand i think was the kind of the final close to the final number when you include it all the kind of the walkup tickets the one day or is that kind of thing yeah the largest attendance of think it was around seventeen hundred i forget what year it was but probably twenty twelve thirteen fourteen somewhere in there you use the word vibe and that's kind of hard to nail down but if you were to say what do you mean exactly by that the vibe of poor fest was good what do you mean well vibe is something that you can really only have a feel for when you're at an event right is there any way you could describe it i would say it was similar to previous pork vests that were generally well reviewed there have been some porcupine freedom festivals that have had not so great reviews in recent years from folks used a quote from rich paul he said in the article the tension that has that has subdued pork fest for the last few years is finally healed it feels like twenty twelve again yeah because you came back that was one that was one thing but there were other people who came back this year as well who had not been just by coincidence if you would years i think it's more than a symbolic thing and it was palpable your presence in a place not just yours but anyone's changes that entire at your flavor to the mix and so it was really nice to be able to look over and see pork fest this feels right so so that was cool i was welcomed back by many of the very board members who voted me to be banned in the first place so that was nice and yes it hurson welcome back like hey that's nice about the vibe bill i want to say the the the years when it was at its height in terms of numbers it may have attracted a lot of different kinds of people because of things that it done in the past correct so if the numbers are higher today it's because in the past pork fest did something right and so if if the numbers declined after that maybe what's the potential explanation for that and i would say like in the numbers where the years when it was most attended it had more of a mainstream vibe where it was like commercial and influenced by d._c. politicos in there was a lot of talk about washington d._c. and our deficit and those kinds of concepts whereas this festival was really knew it was like back to our roots do hampshire centric sort of felt like the content the official content was more focused on what's going on here yeah what can we do as people who are moving here to this new hampshire area even if it's about politics to affect change it it had more to do with people talking with their neighbors and what i think are real solutions for enhancing our freedom and got rave reviews by the people who attended the ones i spoke with at least we're we're pretty happy with the exception of a couple of vendors from the what they call agra valley and johnson i imagine you might have some insight into what exactly happened i did my best to kind of recap sort of the history of agra valley which is this area in the camp ground it's in the r._v. section of the rush of rogers came down in northern new hampshire that's where these events are held and the r._v. area the first few rows are kind of over time that just kind of became naturally the market just kind of decided these were the hot hot spots for vending because it's where the events take place through it to get down generally to get down to where the events the closest in proximity to where the main events are having so they became because of that and the hotels yes just the location is right right so that's why they became the kind of the hotspot for commercial setups where people were sitting bending booths and food stations and things like that and and it's an idea that people may not realize that was i can i was part of the creation of that idea and i it it can be a valium entirely one hundred percent attributed to sovereign curtis somebody who they ended up later banning really yeah it's entirely was his idea that you mean to call to call it that into to group those sites together He wouldn't even by group is he the one who created the fees and the and knowing. absolutely not in fact when discussing the whole idea was very specifically talking about how it needed to be something that was completely no fi fi attract vendors to attract more people than the fees must have come after him because it wasn't that it was like two years ago no yeah i think it's new really recall vendors complaining about it before i left the porcupine freedom festival so maybe two year i'm pretty sure that vaccines heritage those did christine butler organize fat would have been all year attended definitely did attend that i know that was the last year that there was no fees i believe that it went that was sovereign curtis in twenty eleven osborne in two thousand twelve and i think it was carlin twenty thirteen right and then it might have to that so at some point there were a couple that that took it over that raised the rates on all the longtime vendors and really started to vowed twenty fifteen yeah they were we're seasoned event promoters that they've done all these concerts and whatever other things and so they thought they knew better than everyone else so i know they definitely they definitely tried to run out the longtime sponsors like me and mark warden and raise rates and put all kinds of rules on at the time there was a major food vendor that was there a couple of friends his show ironically i don't dislike the vines at all as people just i don't think that they quite got got it you know like for me that was the year when things went from a nice easy agreement that we'd always had sort of verbally with the free state project to a adversarial situation where we decided okay after this year we've got a write things down we talk live because it used to just be yeah we'll handle all the broadcast responsibilities set up the room all the stuff we take care of this us take care of our hotel rooms and that was that was the allow that's a great deal for them it wasn't great deal for them and they just started to screw with it once the the binds took over and i don't know wouldn't support those motel rooms probably i mean sorry enemy and interrupt but they're not that great i would say we gave them a heck of a deal yeah the toll free number here is eight fifty five four fifty free that's eight five five four five zero three seven three three but a lot of the damage has been undone and it's does to rodger paxton and his wife jessica who are the organizers of the last couple years i think they made some some smart moves there's more coming up here you can join us as well we're gonna talk about guevarra on the way here johnson got that story three talk live five star farmers and producers we all know that you work your butts off trying to get the crops out we all know that you're killing it trying to get done and we all know that right now with the extra strong dollar and 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