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Christopher Porco

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30:15 min | 1 year ago

Christopher Porco

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You're both juries will observe the trial and each jury will render a verdict for their respective defendant a month before the Chicago fourth grader who was murdered the brother and mother of one of his accused killers were shot by members of a rival gang which included the father of young Thai Sean Lee Cory Cory Morgan whose brother was killed and mother injured in that shooting vowed that he would seek revenge and set his sights on his rivals young son on the day that Tashaun was murdered. He left his house after school to go back to the park and play Basketball Cory Morgan and Dwight Boone dodie spotted the young boy at the park still in his school uniform and Boone Dhoti approached and struck up a conversation with the child he lured him into a nearby alley with with the promise that he would buy him a juice box once they got into the Alley Dwight Boone doty's shot tonle twice in the head at point blank range before escaping into a waiting getaway car attorneys for both men are trying to pin the blame on the other both men are accused of first degree murder order and could face life in prison if convicted a third man Kevin Edwards who prosecutors say acted as a getaway driver pled guilty last month to first degree murder and was sentenced to twenty five years farmer Dallas Police officer her Ambra Geiger has been found guilty of murder in the killing of her neighbor last year Geiger had just finished a thirteen and a half hour shift when she entered the apartment of twenty twenty six year old Botham Gene Who's sitting on his sofa watching television and eating ice cream. She later told responding officers that she believes that she was in her own own apartments located one floor below jeans and that she shot the man believing that he was an intruder over the course of the week long trial prosecutors highlighted for the jury several visual cues that Geiger had missed including a bright red doormat placed in front of genes apartment Geiger's own apartment had no doormat the also read salacious text messages between Geiger and her married partner on the police force with whom she was having an affair geiger had been on the phone with her partner in the minutes before she entered jeans apartment and in the moments after the shooting she texted her partner while waiting for emergency personnel L. to arrive rather than attempting to render aid to the dying man. The jury deliberated for five hours before arriving at a unanimous guilty verdict geiger faces a sentence of up to ninety nine years in prison Lula's star and former conservative commentator commentator stacey dash was arrested after an altercation with her husband at their Florida home dash called nine one one to report their husband had assaulted her and and put her in a chokehold during an argument responding officers observed red marks and scratches on her husband and arrested dash fifty two on a charge of domestic battery dash was released on five hundred dollars bail dash worked as a commentator for Fox News from two thousand fourteen to two thousand and seventeen and later considered running for Congress in two thousand eighteen in legal documents filed in the case Dash reported that she is indignant and unable to afford an attorney. A judge granted her request for a public defender and has ordered dash to provide proof of her income. Those were your true crime headlines up next the story of Christopher Porco that I a quick break welcome back to murder minute today. The story of Christopher Christopher Porco on November fifteenth two thousand four in the early hours of the morning Peter Porco a fifty two year old state Appellate Division Court clerk and Joan Porco a fifty four year old speech pathologist were asleep deep in their home in Dome Our New York when an intruder entered their home the assailant lint took an ax disabled. The security alarm climbed up the stairs entered the couple's bedroom and brutally attacked them as they lay defenseless in bed when the intruder was satisfied that his work was done he he dropped the acts on the bed and walked out but Peter Sometime in the early morning after the attack regained paned consciousness. Peter got up and started to get ready for work he put Johnson clothes over his wounds. He went to the bathroom and attempted to shave. He then went downstairs to the kitchen and loaded the dishwasher. horrifyingly Peter was going about his morning routine like a ghost leaving a trail of blood all over the house as his wife dying in their bed. Peter's brain was on autopilot his neo cortex which controls higher brain function was badly damaged in the attack but his underlying lying Paleo cortex which guides instinct inhabits was intact. He even made breakfast. Peter then went outside to get the morning paper but the front door locked locked behind him. Peter took this bear Hausky than was hidden in a flower pot and let himself back in leaving the key the in the door as he finally succumbed to his injuries he lost consciousness from blood loss and died just inside outside the door. When Peter PORCO failed to show up for a trial the following day his co workers were concerned and at their request court police were sent to the poor Coz home to check on him but as the first officer approached the house he knew before he entered that something was wrong? A key was in the post front door and the door were slightly ajar. The officer looked inside there on the floor at the bottom of the stairs was the body of Peter Porco ago his head bludgeoned laying in a pool of blood upstairs. Police found Joan barely clinging to life in the couple's blood-soaked bed Joan was missing an eye and part of her skull goal. Her jaw was crushed her brain was visible her face severely disfigured and her arms were covered offered in defense wounds but joan was a life paramedics attempted to give Joan oxygen oxygen but they couldn't find her mouth. Joan had been struck in the head with the axe three times. Peter Sixteen paramedics worked to save Joan Detective Chris Boden arrived on the scene modish new the poor 'cause he had met the family before two years earlier are voters had been called to the Home Joan and Peter Porco they had been broken into and two laptops were stolen but detective voters knew immediately that this was not the scene of a robbery. There was no sign of forced entry a no valuables had been taken taken to detective voltage. This attack looked like the work of a friend or family member MODISH official approach to Joan and asked her five questions. I bowed ish asked Joan if she she could hear him. She nodded yes. Did a family member do this to you. Everyone in the room watched another nod from Joan confirmed. Yes detective detective. Modish knew the couple had two adult sons twenty three year old Jonathan Porco was lieutenant on a US Navy submarine and twenty one year old Christopher Porco was a student at the University of Rochester three hours away. Did Jonathan do this he asked Joan shook her head. No did Christopher do you. This joan nodded. Yes detective bowed ish asked her again. Christopher did this Joan again knotted. Yes Paramedics Rush Joan to the hospital where she was immediately sent to surgery and slipped into a coma police began searching for her son and Christopher Porco but Christopher was two hundred miles away according to his story. He was alone in his dorm warm room. When a reporter called the reporter he said Cold Christopher to ask for a comment on the murder of his parents? Christopher said that this was the first he heard of the attack he then called the police department who confirmed with the reporter had told him but informed Christopher that his mother wasn't fact still alive in the hospital in North Hi my name is Chris Forego call by Union saying that parents I found that fascinating on information from my Vanturi. I'm at school in Rochester New York. I in a dorm there tuncay. Do you have a dorm name our because Monroe okay you're hearing from the Times Union. They called me tonight. Parents are found I guess that into our anything may have some more information for you. Christopher left the university in Rochester and rushed back to Donmar as surgeons attempted to reconstruct Jones face and skull Christopher PORCO was taken to the police station and questioned for six hours. Your mother is communicating. Detective detective voltage told Christopher okay he replied the detective added she saying you were there at the house. I don't know why she would say that. Christopher replied modish pressed. She knows what happened but Christopher didn't flinch which I hope she does. I was not there. Christopher told detective bowed ish that he was sleeping in the lounge of his his dormitory at the time of the attacks I love my parents dearly he told police Christopher for PORCO cooperated fully consenting to have DNA samples taken and to a full physical examination but there wasn't a mark mark on him for Anzac analysis of the crime scene found no fingerprints and no blood other than the victims the house or on the murder weapon investigators checked Christopher's yellow jeep for traces of blood but it was clean when police looked for evidence of whether Christopher had driven his yellow jeep on the highway on the night of the murders they found no no record of his Ez pass going through the toll that night then a new lead came in Peter Porco had once received a death threat from a man who had lost custody of his children in a case before the New York State Supreme Court the man man had vowed to shoot Peter Porco and the judge but when detectives investigated the threat they found that the man had an airtight alibi there was also a series involving a family member who had been jailed for organized. I crime a former loan. Shark named Frank Frankie the firemen Porco a great hunk of Peter's police thought that may be Frankie the firemen had been considering ragging on his associates. Perhaps perhaps Peter was murdered with the firemen's acts as a warning not to talk but Frankie PORCO was was in jail specifically because he refused to cooperate so the theory fell apart police followed lead after after lead all were dead ends but while they still had no physical evidence against Christopher Porco investigators now believed ah that they had discovered his motive Peter and Joan Porco had recently taken out life insurance policies totaling totaling one point one million dollars and Christopher had recently sought out investment device from a financial santeuil counselor. He told them that he was about to inherit millions of dollars from a relative then investigators learned not before the security system in the PORCO home was smashed the code had been typed in deactivate the alarm the attacker had smashed it in order to cover his tracks the case against Christopher PORCO WHO's coming together three weeks after the attack. Joan Porco woke up but now Jones said that she had no memory of the attack in fact Joan now insisted that Christopher was innocent. What detective Bo dish hadn't forgotten he and everyone who had been in that room saw Joan confirmed that her son Christopher had been her attacker are there joan had suffered memory loss due to her traumatic injuries or she she was protecting her son but she herself had pointed the finger at Christopher Porco and police were not about to just let it go? Oh Joan Porco wrote a desperate letter for publication in the Albany Times Union defending her son Christopher's innocence. I am absolutely positive that my son Christopher was in no way involved with this heinous crime I employ the Bethlehem police and the district attorney's Office to leave my son alone and to search for Peter's real killer or killers so that he can rest in peace and my sons ends and I can live in safety the Albany County District Attorney said of Joan Porco position. It's not uncommon for victims of certain crimes to not wish to cooperate with law enforcement or not to agree with the direction action of an investigation we have victims of domestic violence who often display those same sentiments in this case Mrs Porco Oh certainly has our sympathy but we are going to continue along our investigation until we bring a person to justice for her and the death of her husband the Year Long Investigation occupy detectives statewide police probed more than six hundred leads but all of the evidence pointed to Christopher on Friday November fifth two thousand five almost a year a year after the attacks Christopher Porco was indicted for the murder of his father Peter Porco and the attempted murder of his mother Jones the investigation attracted so much media attention that the trial was moved one hundred miles outside of Albany an in an attempt to avoid a biased jury on Wednesday June twenty eighth two thousand six Christopher Porco trial oil began Joan Porco walked in arm and arm with her son and maintained her belief in his innocence. The sense throughout the trial the prosecution argued the Christopher Porco pattern of behavior was consistent spent with psychopathy or sociology Christopher Porco had staged several burglaries of his parents home over the years stealing their electrics and selling them on Ebay Christopher then failed to mail the items and posed as his own brother sending emails to customers explaining that his brother had died and that he was unable to deliver the items items Christopher was failing school and had forged his college transcripts. He lied to fellow students telling them that he came from a rich family with ocean front homes Christopher even applied applied for thirty two thousand dollar loan using his father's name and social security number in an email sent a week before for the crime. Joan PORCO confronted Christopher Darden. I are very upset about not communicating with us. We don't know if you are Arwel or mentally stable. Dot is about to have a nervous breakdown. Do you understand that you are not behaving responsibly. Peter also wrote to his son. Did you forge I signature as cosigner. What the hell are you doing? You should call me to discuss does it. I'm calling Citibank this morning to find out what you have done and I'm going to tell them that. I'm not to be on it. As cosigner Peter later then found out that Christopher had also taken out a line of credit from Citibank to finance his yellow jeep wrangler again using his father's author's name Michelle Mckay a law clerk who worked with Peter Porco testified that she recalled Peter himself describing his youngest son as sociopath. Peter again wrote an email to his son. I want you to know that if you abuse my credit again I will be forced to file forgery affidavits in order to disclaim liability and that applies to the Citibank college loan. If you attempt to reactivate it or use my credit to obtain any other loan we may be disappointed with you but your mother and I still love you and care hear about your future on Monday. July twenty fourth Christopher's older brother Jonathan Porco took the stand. The naval lieutenant told the jury that enacts kept in the family's garage appeared to be the axe used to attack his parents aw the prosecution's theory was that after Christopher had racked up enormous amounts of debt pretending to be rich kid Christopher realized iced but his parents life insurance might be the solution to all of his problems. Do you know if you or your brother were the beneficiaries of your mother and father's will the prosecution asked yes. I did know if either my mother or father there died. One of US would be the beneficiaries said Jonathan was your brother Christopher ever a part of these conversations nations. Yes Jonathan said because we would probably talk about over dinner. Jonathan then explained to the jury that the security alarm system was installed in his parent's home after a burglary during Thanksgiving weekend of two thousand two and that only the immediate family knew the four digit code. Jonathan never looked at his brother Christopher during his testimony Mooney. Dad was a hardworking guy who loved the law and he was a good father. Jonathan Porco Porco said the prosecution presented their timeline at ten thirty PM. PM On November Fourteenth Christopher PORCO got into his yellow jeep wrangler and left the university campus in full view of surveillance. It's cameras at eleven. PM The yellow Jeep Wrangler passed through the toll on the highway and Christopher PORCO paid cash in an attempt to avoid being detected through the scanning of his easy pass but analysis of DNA found on a ticket confirmed. It was Christopher's at two fourteen. Am Christopher Porco entered his parents home and deactivated the security system by typing in the passcode only known to family he then smashed the keypad in an attempt to avoid avoid detection sometime later Christopher found his father's axe walked upstairs to his parents. It's bedroom and attacked brutally murdering his father Peter With sixteen blows to the head but failing to kill his mother other Joan who he struck three times at four fifty nine. Am Christopher then cut the phone line exited the House and drove away in his yellow jeep and at eight thirty A. M. Christopher's yellow jeep wrangler was captured again on surveillance cameras returning to campus over two hundred neighbors in the vicinity were interviewed after the crime took place. One of them testified that he saw Christopher's yellow jeep parked in the driveway five-way on the night of the murder Christopher Porco defense claimed that Christopher was in the dormitory lounge on June the night of the murders and had fallen asleep on the couch. Christopher pocos defense claimed the Christopher was in the dormitory Tori Lounge on the night of the murders and had fallen asleep on the couch but nine of Christopher's college friends testified that they they had been in the lounge watching a movie that night and Christopher wasn't there even after hearing all of the damning evidence percents naming her son at her attacker and her husband's murderer when Joan porco finally took the stand she never wavered in support for son. I did not think that he was mentally ill Jones said when asked about the email that she had written to Christopher just days before the the attack on breaks during her testimony Joan walked over to Christopher the defense table smiling at her son talking ever the affectionate and protective mother when asked again if she remembered the attack Jones simply said no I think because of the brain damage that I had Amnesia Christopher Porco never testified during his trial nor did he show any emotion and on August his tenth two thousand six after a seven week trial and the testimony of more than eighty witnesses Christopher PORCO was found guilty guilty on December twelfth two thousand six judge Jeffrey Berry sentenced Christopher to fifty fifty years to life in prison. Judge Perry said I fear very much what happened. In the early morning hours of November fifteenth is something that could happen again. Christopher PORCO is serving his sentence and Clinton Correctional Facility and will be eligible for parole in December of Twenty fifty two Joan Porco still believes that her son is innocent. This has been murder minute for true crime anytime download the murder minute APP or follow us on Instagram at Myrtle minute and now for twenty four hour early access ad free and bonus episodes checkout murder minute on Himalaya

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Porco Rosso with Justin Charity

Blank Check with Griffin & David

2:21:39 hr | 1 year ago

Porco Rosso with Justin Charity

"Right right breath bed and you don't. I don't know what uh-huh I'd rather be a podcast than a fascist Porco Rosso top-five guy you think so I think a top-five Guy Right. Can I just WANNA get out of the way with something. I'm I'm kind of embarrassed by. I think this is my favorite one. We've watched so far I why almost I was almost certainly would be yeah and this is why I'm kind of embarrassed. Okay I feel like I'm falling harder for the kind of basic ship. What do you mean the base and basic is relative within a Miyazaki who've right none of basic no? I don't understand what you mean and we haven't gotten a spirited away. You know which I have seen right but you don't remember when I was fifteen didn't get what's going on. Forget it right right and I felt kinda somewhere on the twitter every watch I'm a little barris by don't be embarrassed. Totoro to me would be the basic one. That's like the most famous one of all. I know. That's why I'm saying I'm not getting into the ones that are like see right. You're not getting into the super. The Super Proteomic Me Izaak. I feel like the ones I'm getting into are the ones that are a little more Western like your favorites are Kogyo Stroh in this which are like Kinda set in Europe kind of like kind of about like action heroes right right right. PORCO Rosso is like so consciously know Masha like forty Hollywood. Yeah sure that's that's my my embarrassment. Is that the stuff where they're like. This is so much like this you never would find. Ns in American animation look at me as ocoee spiritually is now connected to nature and how willing to non narrative places and I feel like those ones I'm appreciating appreciating and not connecting with her or even those elements in the movie. I'm like a preview. Don't love nature. You're not really a nature guy I don't. I don't think of you as someone who's there's like guys. Let's go to the Hudson Valley and hike guys. Let's let's stay by a lake for a week. I'm not a fan of answer right. It has been a prominent almost every antic antic relationship I've ever had sure because classic you know. Let's let's upgrade the relationship is your Griffin go together. Desert's it's planes. There's there's all environment vacation as long as it's planes. I want to be in some plane. You're saying planes drifter yeah. You're saying okay the walgreens not airplanes planes like I mean look I don't I don't WanNa out myself as some like nature nature Dayton asshole but when you listed those things I my body physically ten. Stop all three of those things when you said like spotting books yes I did. I felt so I started holdings INC on his no. I felt my shoulders rise a little higher which each of those things I can appreciate it but like any time in nature and it's beautiful. I'm like this is beautiful. So how long before we get taught by just feel now I mean let's let's call it some other things right. Let's just like address all the elephants in the room okay and realize there were so many elephants in the room. I'm not designed for this world. Okay I'm saying my body is terrible and it feels like I'm someone who in like a society that is still actually based around survival of the fittest right would survive the shortest period of time and I think nature scares me because I'm not supposed to survive in natural environments. I only have been able to stay. Stay alive in this horrific or official Manhattan manmade. That's the thing about you. Yes you haven't even straight to the outer boroughs. You're like I'm sticking with Manhattan like the moster urbanized of the cities boroughs. I have straight but it's my home base. You've lived there. You live in Manhattan right. You've never lived outside. I've never lived outside of. Obviously you've gone. Ah just to make it sound like nice eye. Contact anytime retired bit traveling to call yourself to now travel but I do. I usually go to cities. I would say I do and when I go outside of cities. I get a little stressed and I didn't realize we were going to get into this because it was something something I've been thinking about but yeah right. I've been thinking you could talk. Just yeah please nature is awful. Thank you and Poker Osos the best news okay okay. This is great. I don't think it's that Western. It's pretty Japanese I think even with how European it is it but it is. It's one of his movies. That's like explicitly probably not set in Japan. This is set in a bond movie bond movie. I'm just saying I feel like I get the ones that are half-and-half you. You know what I'm saying like. Stroh is like Europe Caper v like Eastern Miyazaki storyteller sure but also via like one one of the most classic anime franchises right right right. I hear what you're saying but I think yeah half is probably the right way to think about it and I'm a little worried going into spirited away because everyone thinks that's like the best fucking movie ever made I had. I watched that movie for for some around the same time like fifteen years. I had the exact same react. The first time I watch bearded away sort of like what this is a very bewildering movie didn't quite get it. I just WANNA be able to like four. This mini series series. Come back to it and be like I get it. I'm converted. I love it. Look at me in touch with it. I love the people being friends with a river. You haven't watched spirited away no but I'm worried and have the same thing where I go like. This is very pretty. I get it but it's not as nature is it's mostly said in the bath how it doesn't have to be the nature stuff. I also feel like it's sort of like non literal spiritual. You've got you. You're saying that it's not that much about nature but it is literally about a girl fall in love with a river run foreigner love. He needs to understand that he's a river. Get back in touch with them so she needs to understand she's a whole person and he needs to understand that he's a whole river right and this is my nightmare my if you are river it would be like as the metamorphosis says I be fine being a bug griffin himself a river I would be terrified and in the worst thing is I wouldn't know how to end it. Do you know what I'm saying the guy that's dark. It's dark but I I wouldn't know how to end it Kegoe Stra. You liked left. I'm just watching Lucas Lucas and watching the show Lupin your watching like the first series Hasas guy feel like you were into very into but again. It's a it's an action movie like actually really Totoro was the one where you were kind of like wise this like hitting some deeper and look I I like porno but I read it below pork Orosa Castle in the sky and Lupin and I know plenty of our best friend and opponent Ham. I haven't seen Puna. It's like the one move I just. I have never seen it on IOS pretty cool. is pretty good movies. It's you know it's so so scared and his mom but she's fucking banging and here's another we're going to raise the table for hilarious back okay. Here's another thing I've been. I've been wondering if it if I should've watch these in the dubs and it's a sacrilegious thing to say now. I'm going to watch them all subbed because this is actually going to tell you to watch this but as fucking Michael Title Keaton I figured you were Polka rose or are you fucking kidding pretty good. It's kind of a quiet performance by him. I watched the trailer and I was all in yeah. It's great we can raise the table right now you. You should watch it. What is his laugh sound? PORCO laughs a lot more a lot. He does a good laugh. Okay Japanese like Japanese rules to be clear. I mean you loved. It loved it now that you've seen the sub especially watch the duck. I know I feel like if I was a professional. I would be watching each of these two times before recorded the episode. You don't need to watch the duck before you record the episode because like it's not gonna it's only going to confuse the matter honestly but after yeah you can always go back to those dubs. It's any of the small changes are good yeah and you watch I mean you mostly saw these dubs before subs right. No I saw spirited it away no mostly no mostly Nice yes yes because that was just on TV and stuff and theatrically you saw the right same but spirited I saw in subtitled theatrically came remember with how I think I saw that one sub dispirited away I remember seeing dubbed and thinking the WSB at the Dublin spirited spirit is not amazing right the girl the main two girls are just not. It's Lillo Leila. What's your name data also Leila? She's white. She's like Barry. White Girl didn't realize that okay MHM performance. It's a great performance. We launched issues so fucking. I haven't like I haven't seen a movie in almost twenty years. I Guess Yeah Tasinari CEPA. You said that that in Brighton Okay Disney's. I think there's shooting days. Basically I think they're the two best film home since wallpaper. I don't think that Ashman that's not true. That's crazy. I like him more than all musical. That's that's I don't. I don't I agree with you but that's okay. I think is a perfect thing and I remember being Leila is also kind of closest. Disney's come to making something that feels was a little like Miyazaki. It's very American in its storytelling treasure planet. It's got some Yuzaki but Balilan such as like is very small and intimate is all about the inner life you now and acute creature and the way they like involve like the the fantastical with the lake the whole relationship between Leland her sister and how much of the movie is about like this single mother trying really hard not a single mother and older sister who is forced forced to become a single parent and doesn't have time to like be her own age. now that I'm watching these muzhaqi films feels like that is the subplots plot every Miyazaki often. There's some sort of human spine to it like that tote around yeah all right well interest US spelling check griffin do a podcast Kessel from Agassi's directors have massive says early on the career and gives us. Here's a blank checks make whatever cruise parents want and sometimes they connect more with Griffin sometimes they don't. I like them all. I haven't disliked a movie. I've seen I just wanted to suddenly have a galaxy brain and be like I know Kung Fu. You know like I get it. I get the whole nothing it's fine. I Love Harare so he's a top five Guy Polka Russell Series on the film's a high yeah yeah what's it called. It's called House moving podcast and who's our gas justin charity damage control also co host of sound. Only we recently did an enemy podcast that we and even Galleon podcasts called Sowell idea yeah we did a mini series about neon neon Genesis Saving Kellyanne me and Mike Peters we did like the original TV show we did the movie the involving Galley and now we have a bunch of people and Sean Fantasies Mentions Chins campaigning for us to do the like even Kellyanne reboot movies and also cowboy bebop shirt. Will that will see a decent ago she ations. We'll see what happens I highly recommend watching original Lupin fucking the best. He's also a tough. I've watched any of the new loop like I've only watched. Ah Watching the first series. If you like Porco Rosso I recommend the it's not the most recent season campaign but it's one before that which is set unlike Milan European yeah good you know here. Here's the thing if you're digging into this. I've been trying to like exposure therapy. Break Down my walls with Japanese animation which I feel like I've been very selective in terms of what I've been able to connect with previously trying to like breakthrough all my my dumb western Biases Right you love animation though that's the thing you love the whole channel you just gotTa start familiar loving animation. We talked about this and I've been doing it. I'm getting into stuff but we talked about this. I think in a castle in the sky episode the fact that I love animation so much means that I so imprinted into American animation merchant shirt and it's like I I have to sort of and it's easier for me to do now but when I was younger as this is not how I understand animation to work so I was a kid got really into like structure and forms and patterns and things like that and it was so off the beaten path. I was experiencing even Jillian Evans complained to Netflix versions are fucked with right yeah. high fat is I have complaints about people's complaints because I was gonNA maybe take a swing at that. Might've Mike no not not fuck with it enough that watching it on Netflix is not like sacrilegious basic basic through with all. This stuff is like if you're not watching something in the original Japanese watching you're watching a translation of so watching one translation versus. It's like you're you're not watching the original things are translates English table chain liberties yet. That stuff is more like licensing problems in anime. They just in general has a lot of problem even the idea of getting even Gillian Net Flix yeah. It took a decade in some chain because the fuck anatomy industry is a nightmare and getting the rights to anything is very byzantine process and I think all of that show getting on Netflix and people being like well they didn't license fly me to the moon food. It just felt like kill me. Get the fuck out of here. They also replaced fly me to the movie another classic song from the original series like they were in replace it with Gangnam style yeah. It's kind of good yeah yeah yeah yeah just imagine trying to explain navan Genesis Genesis neon genesis two weeks after yeah right. What's a robot start there? There is that amazing I only found found out about this because of you might remember this lots of noble castes. Do you know about periodic table. Do you know about the Frank Sinatra space album. Yes I do too one of the early what's episode which was written by narrated by crane along with. Yes as I said this is the only reason I know about that but he did this triple album which is where his cover of New York New York comes from it but it's also like him going like Pluto place so you re discs okay. It's a triple album. It's called pass future present. I disc frank do and has classics right the standards second disc frank covering like present day like recent recent songs so he does New York New York that's him. I think doing something for the first time it's it's right a lot of the like Billy Joel Song it doesn't Neil Diamond Song Post seventy s songs Sinatra cover that are famous all come from that second disc and then the third disc no one talks about future a future and it's frank singing like and what of Pluto the smallest planet it's incredible. It's got this like bushes czar like ziggy stardust production great albums nineteen eighty. I think it's incredibly old Sinatra so maybe he was like gum. Digging your baby more robots suits I went to Japan not allowed to reenter diplomatic agreement to be struck by Jimmy Carter. Oh I called in a favor because I am deeply connected to the American American mop these crazy little green man. I love them kind of all the impersonations that I've ever have this five commissioner. I was driving down sixty six with Jimmy Hoffa. We ran into these real alien cats. He shot him in the face and we buried him in Nebraska. I just go to Nebraska Angie Dickinson. I took a wild weekend trip to area fifty one the first draft choice Porco I mean if you compare to attorney or like that Era Frank Sinatra you can pick them up curved by critter Shit Kirsch it but when I was looking for when I realized that Keaton was the voice of Porco Rosso and I want to find a trailer for the adopt so I could hear the voice I found a youtube clip of when they were playing all the jubilee films. I think it was right before Disney properly released all of them Chirp they were playing them all on Turner. Classic movies and Lassiter and Ben Mankiewicz would do the introductions together and Ben Mankiewicz made a really interesting point where he was like this is of all the Miyazaki films we've been covering this is the one that probably fits most at home on the one movie that feels like it could have been a fifty percent like that right and then he's fifty percent Kinda Wilder Miyazaki Shit but he said he was like you could imagine the three leads in this film being played played by like Gary Cooper and Carole Lombard and I forget who the third person he said was but I think the answer is Sinatra Played Grosso you could play poker right older Sinatra trickling Porco like fifty senator comeback. Oh you're right baby-faced could play the would have been too young to play old PORCO but old Sinatra's the perfect perfect guide up late fifties Sinatra can do it fifty Sinatra could do it he. He was pretty old in the man with the golden arm because in in the fifties he's in his mid to late. Forget puts forget. It was such an old man he was born in one thousand nine hundred fifteen yeah he's old old but kept young by those crazy muscians kids. I loved his on this planet. I'll sing you a song. GotTa play by my rules Green Mas pills in the episode. Where do you think he's Saturday? I don't Oh boys take. What's that but you hate hippie? He's the most anti I don't hate hippies hippies. You actually were refined with hippies sixties music ahead of huge influence culture. I dislike at Charlie Manson rolled up on me. I would have shot him square in the face. I think I got two things against Sinatra. A because I'm from New Jersey he's been shoved down my Garoppolo higher life sure it's like Sinatra Joe Biden man and that's like New Jersey and that he was born there and he was like twelve years like Outta here places a dump I mean I think there's like a famous mugshot of him. Him being arrested in hoboken. Yes tries to kill the governor. That's like the poster that people have on their fucking college. Oh Yeah yes of course where he kind of looks like Jon Diligent eligible yeah right right okay because we're making fun of him. You're doing his like singing kind of like schtick. It's not singing. He's just saying so. He's an incredibly he can. He can sing a lot of the guys forty goes for tastic. He's got pipe but yes later as career. The thing you could mark was him just sort of like release and I saw I saw the the second shot some good songwriting into bent so the second Byrd I never knew you at such a beautiful cleese. Oh yeah can sing. You can sing like an angel. Come fly with me okay enough of me. Where do you stand on Bruce as you love Bruce Bruce Bruce? My Man Bruce is like blue collar hero right but like we're talking about how good the Broadway slash net flicks specials as were. He's like I never worked in a factory crash bullshit. I'M GONNA fucking professional musician what he's talking about fancy. Nancy Twenty never worked in a pack. My family was into town you. It was not my life at all. I just found it. Only darkness is in the rooms. I don't enter in my mansion because it's so large okay well. I resisted bruce a lot too because it was so shut down my throat my dad's music but then later in life I discovered it and it's just like Nebraska Yeah in the USA. There's so many even as late eighties albums are so fantastic tastic. He's just a great songwriter so I've come on board to the Bruce Train. Where are you from Justin Richmond? He's from Virginia to the outskirts of Richmond Richmond's famous Deangelis. That's I mean that's I always associated with the hip hop scene the Angelo singing atmosphere. Oh Wow you spent time in richmond trying to find like you the list where it's like famous people from yeah. There's not someone who's like shoved down the throat in the same way Benz talking about though no like a clear cut like this is our pride and joy sort of no. He's the one who got up made good. I mean the the problem with the Angelo. Jason didn't really make it out he sort of got stuck in enrichment for a while and was going through some time we his down period was enrich yeah yeah if you'd read about him on local news it was it was rough with him. Apparently what is the guy with the hat Jason Mraz you say I never knew that or at least aimee Mann an apparently gals Charlottesville yeah but I think he's associated with Charlotte's yeah yeah let me see Oh Chris Brown who yes CB's from Yeah CB's Richmond Oh trey songz okay okay. I'm trying to see that's better trey songz from Petersburg and Guar Guar there from Richmond bar rules. Do you know that Guar every ten years they cycle through new characters and their due for a new set of characters might be behind on this. You might have already debut me. I love choir. Those kids from Richmond those crazy kids will love with their helmets and oversized weapons and I went to a show runs out socked in the jaw was part of the experience and I I love more than a couple of cats from school coming up with a conceptual theater project that somehow charts as a legitimate band. Maybe HEP cats from art. School is definitely Cleveland. Richmond is that when I was growing asking me who the best kids making music today are it's for me. Frank Sinatra diva would tate Frank Sinatra and frank would love. Do you get kids. You don't like disco either right right these kids. They can't stop whipping at this. We arrived on for Parker because Frank. Sinatra is the voice performance in English. That's it that's it live action pork or a rip rip. I'm not surprised the loved this movie. I am surprised you did not flip your audio channel over the English just to at least check out old keady eighty. I was really tempted. I did for a second or two but I was like. I'm GonNa Watch the Second Time I love this movie. Let me fully engaged with it and as the the master himself south intended but God so fucking tempting to hear that like you know why I didn't flip over more because I was afraid I'd get stuck on it like all the other ones we've been watching. I flip over a little bit just to get a lay of the land and if I start hearing key for more than two seconds I'm GonNa be sucked at right. I was telling David before we started recording that I went back can watch this movie last night without the subtitles but also without English dubs because it's just like sometimes. I like doing that with animated stuff. It's sort of like you get the Keno instead of just just sort of how does this movie work just visually sort of with the energy of the voice performances format even if I don't understand the original voice performances and I don't know for such a a weird premise of a movie like pretty easy to follow the Russell also very easy. Not they plot light. There's not a lot of crazy like he's wearing goggles. The entire movie pretty much he takes them off one time and he's got an bushy moustache. Ask that covers a lot of his mouth like coca. Roseau is facially kind of stoic importantly though nearly a few times he has like a weird buzz in the back of his head head. Yeah I love yeah exactly like landing show. I don't know why this is so cool full. He's pretty cool so I was in from started the movie now it's like fuck. This is my favorite one for the moment he's asleep on the beach in his chair with the Hollywood magazine over his face grotto. It's a fucking pig. You know I love pigs to think I knew that. I didn't think you hated pigs. Pig Pig thing. I have a big thing I didn't eat any a pig products until the last five years of my life because I felt solidarity parity with pigs that I was like I'm not eating any any derived making started making five years ago. What was what did it come into Bacon so good so they're saying Oh my God I don't i what could be There's an item at Costco called the chicken bake the chicken bake. They sell at like the food stand that Costco which you know of course is one of my favorite your favorite place to eat right yeah okay. It looks like it looks not dissimilar from your very popular. Dunkin donuts a BAGEL twist option. It's like a Bagel twist but stuffed with it's kind of like a chicken roll from a pizza cheese. He's right Caesar dressing sure chicken and Bacon. 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That's confused aimed after Miss Piggy I didn't I didn't know that either well. It was like a culmination nation of that and when I brought her home the first time she made a mess of my apartment the turn into a pigsty yeah she she did all the business business on herself. So then I had to try and put it in the shower and that wasn't good and then she just ran around tear everything up this funny aac yeah. This is sound fun. I wish wish I could watch that film that yeah okay. Hey cat ownership is tough. Then you should pitch this equation. He gets an autism. The heart is a producing okay. I love cats student over there. The kids like six minute thing when Ben pissed me his crazy project I said Katzen and Katzenberg. It sounds like a match made in Pluto. Oh the smallest of the planets. Do you think if he was back today he heard that like Neil degrasse Tyson made Pluto not a planet punch that I hope he would make distracts just do you think Sinatra you are off covens Shum to go like full McCartney and like you know guest don like a Kanye travel. You know what I mean like collaborate. Don't you imagine he'd be like the subject of lots of Click Bait. He would just give outrageous. Maybe he'd would be like Shatner on twitter yes yes. That's exactly it tells it like it is. I don't know he's a New Yorker like the guy but he's got brass balls. How old was he when he died? Let's say he says eighty two one thousand nine hundred Yep. I remember that's the sketch yeah I remember most from when Giuliani hosted. SNL strengthens the he hosted the night that he won the election yes and he. There's a sketch that Giuliani has an old Italian mother. I think was Sharyo. Terry Giuliani crossing crazy and it's not in New Jersey and the premise is that like Sinatra's kind of been on his deathbed okay and they're like all terrified. Everyone knew Sonata. We might lose them. I just remember that it's a weird weird not in it. It's just about that. It's Giuliani as the matriarch with his adult daughters. Others say Sinatra not framed pictures. Frank will never die crossing myself yeah yeah I prefer Giuliani's early really funny work yeah right. you know making the Staten Island ferry free very funny. They'd bit great beds so Russell so this is your rather be a pig and Juliana voter. When did you come to this movie? Justin sounds like you were later in terms of getting to most of the Ezaki. No I saw it's funny like you were saying earlier like I actually didn't like a few the Miyazaki movies I saw when I was a kid and I I watch Totoro for the first time like several years ago I love Totoro and so I just assumed that my I take from childhood. Were bad right and it yeah I would say like maybe six or seven years ago. I watched Totoro. I watched Nelson okay. I read the NASCAR mangga which is much larger a lot more sprawling than the movie and I got to Polka row so maybe like two or three years ago. and I wanted to fucking kick myself. I had to see him. I just had this sense of. I don't know there's there's there's sort of this myth of high Almaz ocoee of like what he's like that not that many animators get you look at me as ocoee and he's just like smoking in cigarettes and being extremely dark and sarcastic and interviews any watch PORCO Rosso Pogo is not like that. He doesn't have that weird glib yeah sort of nihilistic edge that Miyazaki has but everything else about Porco like the fact that he's just a guy who's like working on his fucking airplane and he's looking cigarettes. It's like Oh. This is the guy who makes these movies yeah. This is my insight into who he is. He's a pig yeah. I I feel like yes. I do feel like I get a greater sense of him watching this movie him as a as an actual person not what his worldview is the yes him him as a person is in this is the most in this and win writer yard the most plainy movie right troop session right and that thing of just like I can't relate to you if you're not well-versed planes yeah yeah and it's funny 'cause arose around the lake. You know Polka Roseau's adapted did from it. It's like they're Misaki. Manga that are actually larger and feel more Manga even adapted from fifteen page Manga. That's just I think Miyazaki Sake has talked about him like fucking in the nineties I really loved drawing planes and there are three different art books and mango where he's just drying planes and he's getting coming insanely detailed about the big health store Taivon's. Where's the pork arrose stuff is just here's some planes uh-huh okay this? This is the thing I want to read okay so right. He writes a man called the age of the flying boat but the film was originally planned as is a short in-flight film for Japan Airlines. Yes based on the Manga grew into a feature length Ville yeah. That's just wild insane if you look at the money it's it's like you can read it. In five minutes fifteen pages read in five minutes and that's the movie Bork Arosa but it's also like if they were like Delta airlines hired Martin Scorsese Eighty to make their inflate film and he got so caught up with it turned out to be aviator that is vic craziest origin of a film. Everybody wants to do a short film and then it's like Oh. This is a feature happens to I just love it. They're like me. It's really simple. Inflate movie talk about planes. I literally just buckle the seat belts the oxygen bags exit rows and he's like cool cool. It has expanded into a ninety minute inherited talk about war fast yes and the toll it takes on men and turns them into picks when they tried to enter heaven or reject this they were short walk is the book is planes right and he was like I cannot what a poor gross still had a scene where PORCO Rosso gave out safety yeah yeah we're proceeding. Apply your oxygen mask. I yes or before helping others. Yes always freaked me out when I was a kid. Hey Yeah don't like it now doing fine. Actually I know you don. I love it. You love it. Yeah crazy. Don't like cars. Have you ever been in a small single engine plane. I feel like I have I have. I got some five one so let me fly a plane Coo Yeah Oh shit. Let's let's just my favorite. This person's license told me the statue of limitations horrible crime is my friends irresponsible. We'll step that okay when you were a kid. Take the stick kid up his go and down his and I wanted me to the moon and he let me it just do that kind of move gesturing we're like I kind of turned the plane on its side. You did like a half barrel roll. Yeah Fuck Ben. I wanted to go to space camp so bad as a kid hid did get the fuck you talking about like. What are you buying food not space cam? Meanwhile you're doing barrels like fucking star. Fox is great. I hate the music you should make a star Fox movie. This movie is almost Fox movie as a big man especially in the last twenty minutes and this move very very you know get back here so let me get back here do a barrel. I should mention though having to jacked rushing that was that was unfortunate for you. Yeah Oh boy. I don't think I've told this story on the podcast before I went to space camp. Wow No you fucking I went I went. I went to Florida. I Okay I had this brochure. You went to the place where I had the brochure for this now but here's the story. It's a traumatic experience for me. One of the centerpiece attractions is that the driver scope which everyone watches from the side hiding goes like that's what I think. I'm going to be able to handle that whereas I'm like Oh. I know I won't be attending. Keep the deposit everyone last three sec back right then the final thing is when you get to do the simulation of the cockpit and they give you a binder that has a script and everyone has a role and my role was exercise expert which was such a fucking bummer kind of a disastrous role for you. It was like you're on the exercise bike and you have to keep epilogue of how it you're fucking hate. How long does the simulation take like an hour okay? You're like in like a capsule and it's like Oh. You're the pilot year the engineer you're the exercise expert and one person gets to do like the space walk like one person gets to go out in the arm and like in that role all is shown much cooler than everything else. You're not floating right. You're unlike robot a robot arm. It's it's pretty Jim Bulls Bulls analog but someone's like maneuvering you around. You're on a rig or whatever from my memory exercise scientists is the worst I fuck position. I hate it but I was already at this point like completely traumatized because the other big thing is here's our zero gravity like sort of simulation in the way they do it is it's essentially like a wall of rock climbing wall okay with like police except the wall is just kind of like a grid it looks like the set for rent or something right. It's like a metal grid of bars and chat and on the the pulley the other side of the police on the other side of the grid and on that side is your weight in iron impounds right so they way you before you get on it and then you get on this thing and because there's an equal weight when you jump up it feels like you're sort of zero gravity and you can clamp the wall and whatever that's simulation of like this is what it feels like to be able to whatever I was a like a dangerously underweight kit right so they just took like somewhat sack lunch input on the other side well. It was a thing where my dad was like. If you get to one hundred pounds I'll buy you a Tamagotchi sure and I wanted at that time gushing. I finally got it was a very old statement. Yes you got it but it was in two thousand fifteen. Yeah I got it from my thirtieth. My parents finally got me Gottschee. You've hit Ondo Right but I was like sixty pounds and they were like you gotta eat more. They're like funneling ice cream cream into my mouth like everyone's afraid I was going to die and they were just gain weight gain weight gain weight and I got on the scale at space camp and I was like like I got him one hundred and five pounds and I was like this is. I can't wait to call my tell them. Tom Gosh you ready for me. I'm coming home and I'm cracking got Eddie right yeah and of course I had not miraculously gained thirty pounds just while at space cam there's ice cream their skill was is broken and so they plugged me in and they let go and I shot up to the ceiling and you're in like a big like hanger and they couldn't get me down for two hours. Ahead Matt is based not exaggerate. This sounds so strong sleep over for like you had to stay there for and I left my almost all at home and it was a nightmare. I didn't know he had no mode Hanauma. Doll your big ullmark. I was big al Kid but the other part of it was that I would sleep on the elmo every night like as a pillow. Oh okay pillow ELMO head to look. What about pillows though do you ever hear about those? There is in a nose but I was so used to that shape that when I got old enough that was embarrassed about the height hi my pillow case. It's pretty cute griff. You're weird reported on them before but you are weird good but my main take it from space. Camp is two hours where they were like with a megaphone like the only way you're getting down is by yourself we don't have there's no way for us to get up there and to reach each you in there so much weight working against you. They were like you have to reverse climb down the grid. I'm not sure that I like the idea of space camp telling me there's no away for us. That's not the problem solving that I saw a movie like I man I feel the whole point is problem solving nine years old and I was it's like two foot one I would sixty pounds and they were like you're going to have to use your brute strength to carry your way down to the ground again right right right. No Elma broken scales broken scale exercise expert terrible fucking racket PORCO orca Russell Crowe Rosso say Bro so-so rhyme yeah. He's the red pig the criminals do you like that typewriter intro and all the languages pretty good. That's the thing like right away. I was like this funny jamming on this this movie. This movie is having a laugh with the form a little bit. He's World War One fighters he is. He's a freelance bounty hunter yeah Griffin's best friend. He's one of my best friends. He chills out cove. He loves old Hollywood sure but he pushes people away yeah because he's he's big. He's discussing pig. All middle aged men are pigs as he tells us late in the movie house. That's why he's a pig is either that or that heaven may be rejected him and turned into a pick nick right right right like fifty one fifty the other right but also wore makes pigs us all this thing that it's like. He's the best at doing thing thing. That's inherently Kinda fucked shirt. You know what a hero he shoots people out of the sky undiscussed pig murder as you said he should children in the beginning he he he the movie opens with like so heroin. It's this bond style like everything's happening and he's like shooting at Children's Rosalie but he shouldn't get children well. They're these air. PIRATES BEARD'S A big teeth. It's GonNa take them down. I love the pirates. Pirates are so good opening with a bunch of pirates kidnapping put like young girls wha that's good. It's good like there's no point ask you why that's the beauty of this movie I love the girls being like looked at pirates tak- a serious cut to them like five minutes later and the kids are jumping around and they're like we shouldn't take an all the kids tuning we could have proven the same point with like two. There's a handful now and Porco so good that the pirates higher this asshole called Curtis ought to help them fight PORCO. WHO's like Ronald Reagan combined with Douglas Fairbanks American in there in Italy just played by Carrie? L. was in the Doug which is funny. Yes he was a Robin Hood Parody Point Right but then carrier was also plays like he's in like a ton of these right just like David Ogden stiers came one of those guys that I just do your dubs whatever funny he's the cat in whisper of the heart and the cat returns. I believe I love. I love character. I haven't watched Oh my God only jubilees. I've never seen characters fucking back in this one it does you're in pork Rosa. No I'm not I can't just be stupid yeah. He's done. You're right. He's done three. GDP Dobbs David Guitars who plays Mr Piccolo in here. I feel like he's done on multiple jubilee dot COM well he also he was like cogs worth and he's yes he did so many David Ogden stiers yeah he's also so jump and only loans yes yes and he's commodity and spirited away. Come on he's The dad and better that Justin. I feel like Oh no oh you. I guess you gave Your Your Miyazaki your his personality. Do you have anything else you WANNA say about music before we do I like when did you get into Miyazaki well. I don't like you already into the lake t to Griffin's earlier point about like Gidley your relationship to Japanese animation. Maybe being contingent on your feelings about Western animation gets even more complicated because Japanese film animation is so different friend from Japanese TV animation and so I have been able to access much easier yes the distributions totally different and as somebody see who I my highest loyalty animation is still a Japanese TV animation and think that accounts for why I used to have like a lot of trouble with me as I can and I was just sort of like like I don't get it. was that the case from a young age did you get into anime early yeah yeah I the first enemy ever watched with sailor moon okay frightening and I didn't get into the Miyazaki. I didn't really start getting into me as I can tell like a yeah I'd say easily fourteen maybe and it just so totally different and I also think the way that he has ocoee movies used to be marketed in the US was so strange they were very felt like they were marketed with this very self conscious prestige to them and I don't way to object yeah here hi how hard working I think in retrospect that is not the way to approach it is fascinating that like in Japan he is of course the most mean stream yet like the equivalent of like a blockbuster film. May I think he is for the top ten highest grossing films in the history of Japan the list up because they want to quiz you on them at some point in the podcast quiz me I WANNA do a reverse box office game with the top ten Japanese films because I looked them up last night. It's a pretty fascinating. Do you have the list. I'll do it at at some point. Maybe in this episode of we don't have box office real Orissa which feels like we won't I mean once again. We have like a you know twenty eighteen rerelease I I might I might call my shot but sailor. Moon was sort of your entryway and yeah and like Japanese TV animation right and so so I think for a long time I'd say really only in the past ten years of I really tried to get more into Japanese film animation. What are your like your top TV shows what are your say eva a the original sailor moon okay ah I mean I you know I think I I like a lot of the mainstream shit like cowboy bebop? I guess I like some of the more trolley rolley lake some two thousand and stuff. I think that's when it gets weird. It gets very like I don't want to say fishy but it it's sort of like the anime he initiated. Ah Yeah her he's a really like because that that is like the ultimate sort of like troll when he said troll show you mean they're trolling or it's about trolls trolling Richard have any role and ask no Susan me as a show. Oh that is trolling okay like down to the level of like which order you should ideally like ideally watched the episode thin like it is a very fascinating Lee he constructed show that goes off the rails and its second season yeah but it is a it's a great it's like one of my favourite. TV experiments that show from two thousand six six so you get into his ocoee. Yeah you see some Yazaki movies. I don't know what you saw. Her totoro spirited away spirit away mom okay. When do you come to Mr Pick you know when the when when does Porco for show his based you three years ago okay and so it was at metro graph and you're like you kind of latched onto it and you're like this is this is the Misaki I felt like I i? I'm I felt upset with myself that I it had taken me so long to get to pork right. I remember seeing like the Parker us a poster at some point because I feel this is one of the ones that is least disgust in his youth. Well I think for a long time it was like if you were talking to someone about like which they'd be like Russell. That's a weird one and it's more for grownups like also is a movie that doesn't really farewell if the if the test is like if you liked x watch what you're never the Y. Is never going to be poor. Totoro watch poor Garozzo. I just feel like I didn't know it existed for a long time and they WANNA finally hit my radar when when I saw the DVD cover best buy or something and I was like this is a Muzak via pig no one talks about it and he pig. I was like a coin right but I was like is. Do I not know about this because this is the bad one or do I not know about this because everyone else is dumb and this is the best movie ever the weird one. I think that's the best way I think a gross less than some of his biggest hits and jam like it was not quite so divine yeah but it was not quite the sensation maybe that Todorovic Europe Yep well set nearer I know did whether it also feels I mean I think were a little it can feel a little discordant even because so many other Miyazaki you can feel like the made by a guy who doesn't really like the future or the present Nissim like human innovation has ruined everything Polka Rosa's about a guy working on his plane. It's all these loving shots of equipment. Yes and it just feels very very different from watching like you you wash now soccer and then you watch Paul Roseau and it it feels like to completely different world views are making these movies even though I don't think I think I think on closer reading they're not incompatible yeah but it just at at first glance something about poor Grosso feels like they're elements elements weren't revealed in the other Miyazaki move shirt. I think well we started digging. Insist by loved. The movie starts with a NAP and then goes like a speeding bullet like starts with like a little quiet nap and then it's immediately like straight into the action comedy action thrills. You know what I'm saying you're right. They're like GONNA fire like a Disney. Any move even would probably be like well. We're starting with this very melancholic. SORTA like here's Porco right he nap yeah probably not probably you would start in the air earned then you then you do this then you got him here without any table setting without any table sitting down. We know he's a pig yeah. I'm saying it's like fifteen minutes before he like shows up at the restaurant zero minutes before he's a pick your have you ever been because he shows up the restaurant Iran. You've got curtis there. You Got Gina there who rolls who plays gene in America Susan Egan Classic Voice Actor. Oh interesting you know she's she's bell yes. Yes yes. Yes yes. Yes yes yes. According to you moving Yup Fehmi I stand by that and and Gina Curtis is trying to like hit on gene so you know what's up with you. I love you and she's like sorry. I'm into the big yeah steer clear. I'm picked picked up Oh yeah but but I love that it's it's like Porco genuinely as we get to learn. The movie has not ever considered that anyone would like him. That's fair right yeah. He's kind of like. I'm a lost soul. I I was like okay. I get what kind of movie this is. This is the like honey. You don't WanNa know me. You don't WanNa be with me. I'm protecting you know instead. It's like I'm a fucking pig wait. She likes media even at the end of the movie when the guys like. What are you what we're fighting? She wants you not me is one mostly mad about. He's like you're lying so stunned that the guy gets an opportunity a clear-cut camp. I think we've talked up the melancholic elements of the movie but I think it's important that the character porco himself actually kind of care. He's like sitting around drinking drinking wine on the beach is kind of got that vibe of like look. I brushed the face of death and I'm still here so it's all extra time. I think he's a little night also we're also we're in Italy so the process I think he's a little listrik and a little hedonistic in terms of like I'm doing me. What's the worst thing you can do to me already a fucking pay? That's the thing is if I'm a pig on Mike. I'm going to eat twenty four seven. It's like I'm pick. I really worry about how I look anymore. I look like a pig. He's great body shape and I love the way he outfits himself. He's his mustache is great to compare curtis his mustache which sucks versus mustaches the best signifier that he's like a weak Chin Dildo pocos mustache even when you see human and you're like oh it was just the same salary as opposed to look at criticism mustache in late at any point exactly no thank you curtis sucks monster. I'm trying to think of the plot here Hollywood movie star and also be President he actually you know let me read you music. You got my book right. Okay Oh David taking out a leather bound volume great. There's like a green smoke rising from the this. Is your new bit. which is the line holding us out there? It'd be great if like Porco I could sit around and smoke cigarettes or watching some young kid and making comments like like staying up late all the time will shorten your life or it'll be bad for your complexion. laughs of course reality. Ali Doesn't work that way. It'd be pretty tough to live the way the characters in this film do the staff members who worked on Poker Roseau to burn the midnight oil all the time and some didn't even get to rest on a Sunday. There are a lot of the reasons for this and it's an area where I need to meet him. I love here's the here's the part that I wanna get to but I personally enjoy it when I become so absorbed in something that I completely forget about myself that's Kinda sweet I know but like I feel like that is occupied. Wherever else's like we have to please Mr Miyazaki I the draw until my hands are bone? He's just like sitting there and he's like Oh. I pooped in my pants again because I just loved this movie so much. I forgot that I'm a human being right. Everyone else's like working overtime and crunching ranching music is like I'm trying to work so hard that I forget who I am that I become one with the work. I relate to that so I get that you seeing it about myself me. In PORCO I see me in Porco I do but at the same time when I'm making these movies movies I am not me. I am the movie like you know I. It's my body Yup. I love that love PORCO trying. I WanNa see what else he says about PORCO. Is there anything about pig my cat in there. Does he say anything about that. No no mention she swims treasury war I own around new national treasure and it's about my cat and cage like we've got to fight bits cut. He's trying to because it's a national treasure. She is a national treasure. You disagree with that. No I can't airtight lodge he scien- time he's Si- thinking uh-huh speaking don't even know how to describe this problem Let's see I mean I I would say I've been getting better night's sleep every single night in my life okay. That's GONNA make you tired last thirty years. I feel very very tired and I've been trying to isolate what the problem is. In the best way I can put it is that it feels like my sheets are on buttered. Oem buttery they're not buttery does is that that even settle for margarine sheets very dry flan and you spend a thirty year life and she I'd say about a half of my life and that's not euphemistic. I'm very depressed. Person doesn't like getting so you definitely want your sheets. 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The Soviet Union goes away this war in the Balkan states which is where this is set and he felt very conflicted about like I'm making the slip or movie set in a place where there's actual war so I feel like he tried to make the movie a little darker as a result a little more what you're talking about the kind of like we are. You know it does make animals of us like you know it is. He's kind of like an unforgettable sin. At the best you become glorious animal majestic Predator right route pigs are predators but you know what I'm saying no. They're they just the but they are smart piggies at the other reason why I like them. They are smart creatures. I think they're very smart there. Have you ever get like a teacup pig pet now. As what is it teacup pig supposedly small pig that's cute but then they do grow up and you you know there are large creature you do you treat them like a dog like you can take friends here. You did George Clooney Clooney famously had had a pink pigs pigs like all right up there with dolphins says like the smart quite intelligent illegal and your city to own a pay but that's just bullshit legal to own all kinds of things New York City that my roommate had a snake for seven years. It was totally illegal but like who's GonNa come. Yeah who's going to please yeah. It's like the only one they care about US ferrets. We know the Guiliani Guiliani hates the ferrets pig nick get a pig. I feel like if you have a pick you WANNA be able to take it outdoors. Yeah I mean you'd probably because he's probably prefer to live in nature. We're going to check my snake like like fucking case what it was. It was pretty big. Let me tell you remember. I stayed in one time. We was there when you say it. Was Your your old roommate. Learn it. That's right learned. A learned man was a learned man yeah yeah he had to think and I remember I asked him once wining. Why do you have a pet snake? It was a big it was a large Whoa constrictor yeah and he was like when I come in the room doesn't even know who I am. Wow I never learned bedroom was just books and a snake correct. He lives he. He wanted to have the largest library. I've ever seen in one room. Yes he wanted to have a beauty and the beast style experience so he tried to turn his room into all these like bookcase sort of shedding new doors big like hardcover books he very deeply connected to bell like gliding along on the ladder. You know right. Where is he now Texas doing what a PhD in like science fiction Shen at Rice University? I know pretty cool. It says learning corner learn foot anyone shout out the only person with that name so if you heard that name you know him so we end up at jeans restaurant yeah and I think the key things we established in this scene. GINA loves PORCO. That's it. I don't know he goes to about the curse. This is the first time we we start to talk about the curse. They talk about the curse he was once. Curtis shoots him down right because he's got the engine trouble Curtis's like I got him. He's dead well. That's after after this. I guess it's but that's right after right. There's nothing else here's a rivalry right. I like Jesus. I like this like the movie step into this like Casa Blanca Concha. How your host music European movies have like a setting where you're like? I could watch like a take one hundred episode. TV Show Gina's cool fucking rescue yes about the spirited away bath house. I don't know right you know like there's some cool place. Yes I want to live here. He's very good at making you want to be in an environment that he's in high would say I think the other thing that's established by by the beginning to is that everybody just has a plane plane like there's so many people sort of run into each other in the air like it's traffic. Yes and they're just having conversations yeah. This is the that's how people interact back in his movie flying Planes World Yeah Yeah wanted to see the plains. There's that play police late that partly when what's your pants the younger one at the fear fear Y- is like come on you guys are seaplane pilots. You've got to be able to see see pilots and like the honor amongst plans. She's a seaplane pilots a lot. I was a seaplane pilots have their own codes the camaraderie the F. C. C. Air Cowboys right but I think to me as ocoee right. There's that the freedom of the air and the open ocean but then also you open those planes up. There's mechanics matters fiddling so big like threes. There's you know hard work. There's something there's a craft and care. He loves planes like he loves animation. Raise like working on something intricately you know and you have to get exactly right but he hides the contrast between the machinery versus nature in this movie whereas all the other Miyazaki movies feel like they hide the machinery like all of the the sort of metaphor of like machinery and the effort that goes into making those movies feels like that effort is so well hidden in something like princess-mononoke movies. Don't get into the guts and the same kind yeah. This movie has guts. Yeah has like the inner workings of thing and I feel like even when Kurdish shoots him out of the sky it is like there's always a moment in Miyazaki movie where something is just like so animated and such extreme detail like the thing you can tell he spent like eight months on a loan and for this movie it feels like that is when the plane gets shot down and you just see it fall apart all the pieces strip off and you're seeing a plane get deconstructed in the sky in real time but then you also think of the people who had to like all of annual visit when he goes to Piccolo Piccolo showing him the engine and he's like like they're like this is we is shot where they're testing the engine in the shed. In every single angle panel has these very precise movements blowing in the wind yeah and you're like it must have taken like three years to animate that one thirty second bit of enemies right right right. I mean it's it's like the the would buckling in castle in the sky. Oh I love that right very there's always this kind of thing where it's like something falls apart art and you see yeah yes well. Hendrawan animation is over this it. Isn't you know that's True Author Hand Photo Photo Realistic Key frame. CGI gives us the opportunity to see what a real lion would be like. I just can't wait to be giving my secret. Hope Right now. Sure sure there's a part of me that thinks that net flicks is gonNA start announcing they're going to do and we have an animated studio right have one right right but like it'll be we're going to do Disney. They have been very vague about what they're doing but the person they hired to run it is Glen Keane Oh sure right a legend and they released a video radio because you know Netflix has all these like different twitter accounts in different youtube channels for different genres or sub sections of what they do like Netflix. Netflix is a joke in I'm right. They did a video for their animation. That was talking about like what Netflix wants to do animation how they want to be like their own animation powerhouse else okay. It's a lot of Glen Keane talking other people talking about like the qualities they want to bring a lot of videos of people drying and obviously even even if you're doing CGI or whatever you still have to do the sort of basic drafting you know of strongly montlake character modeling or that's what's unclear. I mean this is really a video. That's it's not going into details. I don't remember if they've announced anything but I kind of believe that lake Netflix as they are trying to disrupt the industry by doing the things that other people aren't doing making phones by the types of people that aren't being made or the genres that are sort of dormant like the romantic comedy or whatever they're going to be like here's our slate. We're doing doing like four hand-drawn animated films not announcing them because it takes years and F- looks likes announcing everything very shortly before it comes out and they have the selleck movie which is supposed to come out next year I think they're gonNA start announcing a bunch of classically hand-drawn films if they're smart that's what they do you at a time where every other studio is like we're done and you're feeling more and more of a push from like the I don't know the intellectual Community Unity Yeah you know this guy and that's also this weird thing that Netflix says don where it's like. We're going to gain legitimacy by going to the most sort of artistic sort of that's always been there move much Amazon the corners that are seen as uncontroversial right OECD animation automation three hundred in Japan like is that taking off at all like you meetings are style you know I guess it's more expensive yeah the construction wire. US is I it just seems like transitioning from the era. I guess it's one thing to have digital like two D animation but yeah I think the weird historical trajectory toward the most expensive possible enemy seems counterintuitive to me. I don't quite get it. I'll say this it is easier and cheaper to make bads on it is also herder and more expensive to make good. CGI Yeah Yeah Yeah Right. You can make the Koran movie or norm of the North or any of these bullshit things where you're like. What is this like? If you have two sets in your animation your performances performances or bad you can make shitty computer animated film faster then a Hendra on film because you don't have to draw every single frame user you have models that you can just sort of reusing a sloppy way but to do it well. You need big big infrastructure. A lot of people isn't saying because there are all these different departments that don't exist I otherwise the texturing department your lighting you gotTa ten texture things but every every other country has I feel like move to CG. I mean like I I was in Barcelona and there is so much. CPI Shit in Spain anytime we're turning on the TV I was surprised by the amount of like completely native Spanish cartoon shows or trailers for Spanish like this is the third in this franchise of beloved. CGI SPANISH CGI movies I keep saying CGI soon but I feel like at least what carries over here in any way you don't really early see Japanese. CGI Yeah I mean I think Japan's I I think the way the anime has adapted to like Digital Two d animation is just more graceful role than the way other countries have adapted to Yeah Three D. Post veggietales and imagine trying to even has more. CGI animation now Interest Yup. I believe that Japan seems to have stayed pretty strong. Obviously these movies are so popular in China's well right across all right. He got shot down yeah orca. You pretend dead you. SORTA like find them. You know you think he killed me. That's great I can lie low and also I'll let curtis like sell the legend right. If you're GonNa Brag that he killed me which gives me some time to lay low because PARCO harvey debt thing is Harvey then are right right yeah. PORCO is a wanted man if they know some of these shores that he's washing up on. They're going to apprehend them immediately so better for him to let everyone believe that he's dead and then not much happens until he needs to regroup raise to hang with Piccolo. Excuse me he meets a great friend great P. blessed because he doesn't have a plan. The action is now basically until the final dual action at this is the thing I like about this. It's a long movie once he gets introduced. I was like Oh this movie is also kind of a true grit narrative Hailee Steinfeld and even the way it ends with the narration which we'll get to it is the scene of like this is this man who is very tough to break through to who taught her a lot of lessons lessons who she taught a lot and they were just together for this brief period of time that changed the rest of her life and she reminded him that he's not just a cursed big man as well right yeah you know what she kind of drew that out yeah really Nice France and I also I just like any story where someone has to prove that they know what they're talking about like this assurance that he comes where your son's. WHO's this low grade yeah but it is funny? How like the beginning? It's like the earliest in the latest minutes of the movie. You're very action like you said after he got shot down it. It's all of these things where he's like. He's writing the plane. He's riding the train. He has to get the plane to the shop. That's the thing it's like all of the bandit who cares all of all of the stuff that's him dealing with the fact that his plane is fucked up. Yeah like I mentioned early from Richmond and I think a lot of my own childhood watching this movie because I grew up outside of Richmond and my dad I used to drag race in his car. All the shooter and it's just like the middle part of Pork Roseau is totally the vibe of just like observing people who are really into their cars you know and like drag racing. I imagine it's like your engine is what's most important because like the heart is not GonNa Camaro not nice nice paint job but but it's you know when I was a kid I didn't didn't get it at all because I fucking hated cars because they were super low like driver racing a super loud when I was a kid to to the culture of didn't get but then I watch a movie like this and I think because of how meticulously all of its animated especially all of the sequences where Feo and all of the women I'm in Porco are are working on the plane and there's sort of animating the sense of assembly yeah. It's like oh I kind of get. I think that's the thing it's like. It's it's it's that's Miyazaki putting himself into the thing it's like when you find a field where you can become obsessed with the rest of your life to having a complete fleet understanding of this thing and complete mastery of this thing and when you're in it even though it's difficult you entered this flow state. Yeah you achieve this state of Zen right which you know it's like people who race they talk about that anyone who has any sort of like you know passion for anything that seems dangerous you know when you watch like Free Solo and you're like why the fuck would he do this and he's like. This is the one time I feel calm. You know I think as you're saying this midsection action of the movie is like this is a guy who doesn't really know what to do with himself when he's not in a dogfight as much as GINA is like why won't you you so cool right yeah cool right and he's like what do you mean pick. Where's the fuck out there on the phone on the payphone God yeah they've also that old? Timey phone calls very old-timey but that's right. He's a guy where he's just like. This is the one thing I understand Tayo comes in and he's like you better. Not Fuck this up. I've been working with same people forever. I Know Piccolo. I know his sons. I can't take a risk risk on a grandchild. You know young because I need to get back up in the air and she's like you're a sexist and I totally know what I'm doing it. Also I'm precocious rushes. She's she's very. She feels like when she's introduced her energy. Just in terms of for animation feels so different from the other characters she sort of moves more fluidly is like what's going on here. I'm GonNa work on the plane. Also because everyone else is in the sort of like classic Hollywood there. I say it because it's been on the bench for Awhile Patina. You know everyone else is giving these performances engine took crackles to life. Everyone else's giving these performances that could've been done by any classic nineteen forties Hollywood star and then she comes in and she's giving like specifically like eighties nineties movie energy. She's a thoroughly modern care otherwise yes a little classical love that that's true that's true and she's also just the classic Miyazaki occupy key yeah where you're Kinda like oh he made a movie about boys and then she shows up and you're like okay that type doesn't exist in the type of movie that he is sort of referencing and using a mood no absolutely not it's also in this strict version of it might like you know hey mister you. You know that kind of kids like a ragamuffin you know ragamuffin right but it's also this contrast with pork owes a character because it's like PORCO has two who different pairs of glasses and he wears these trenchcoats and he's sort of you know he's Nice but he's sort of closed off in a way and then you have feo shows show up and her facial her eyes and specifically her eyebrows have this very distinct expressive nece and so whenever they're in scenes together you're just plays up that contrast of like the kind of performance that Porco is give him versus wit energy Feo is challenge yeah AH is the window to the soul animators. That's the whole key to the thing it's one of the reasons why line can fucking sauce yeah the Federal Lion King and like they make this conscious decision decision. That's like this guy's eyes are always going to be covered. You know not because we're trying to handicap this characters express minutes because this is a character doesn't want anyone to see into Seoul like he's trying to keep his emotions close to the chest and then but then like when you've reached a point with him yeah where you're some you see his human face would would right yeah then he turns around the again. Yeah I prefer the pig looks great looks great fucking awesome. Hey great very handsome pack like this style yeah if he wanted to be in some Hollywood movies just the pig like at the end to it. Yeah you know what I mean just him flashing the thumbs up you know with the pig face ace it just scar icon all of that. He's as what we should with photo realistic technology. Make people look like pigment. Keep on hitting on this like the fucking photo real thing but it's like hit on it. I feel like this is. That's the me as ocoee thing though right is. It's like one thing to accept that. We don't do hand-drawn animation anymore but I do think that Miyazaki is one of the people who's going to make the strongest historical case for listen animation is a distinct thing and realism is sort of an opponent of this stuff. You're trying to accomplish an animated cinema right. I just I feel like this gets back to the cats trailer as well but it's like this thing of like if you're gonNA use. CGI use it to make things that are alike against the laws of nature could not exist and putting new things with the camera that are not possible things like that right right stylized people's faces in a way that doesn't make sense or like they should never make a live action Perot so but if they did it's not like I'm against the concept of Porco Rosso being photo real because that would be in juxtaposition to real human beings seeings in front of a camera Pirka Rosa. It's perfect now. He's he's looking for a long time that he was GonNa make a sequel did he and they wrote a script it and then I let me let me get that Sir. Yes often find it. Find it okay he wrote a script pork Larussa the last sortie that would be set during the Spanish civil war so PORCO will be much older. Miyazaki was like it'll be about what like me being old you know my angle and he wanted Hiroshima unibody she the guy who made like the Secret World Marietta and when Marnie was was there right he was saying he was direct. I imagine and now all of these fallen apart like who knows but now it's sort of back together again well but no but that guy I went off to do creates poke which is sort of like trying to rise from the ashes of a flower what and make sure I don't know it's it's one of those things like crazy. She's making right now. It's one of those things like old found you live old. Fink brothers have always said like when we're older older we WANNA come back into old. Think with the Barrow near like you. You're not sure if that's a joke or not right. You're not sure if that's the best idea or the worst idea yeah if it's barely well enough and loan or if it'd be like the most triumphant thing these seem to generally no like you know what I mean because sometimes they'd be like yeah we're going to Jesus spin off from and then they eventually it's like Oh someone to kind of make in that and they were they were clearly like yeah. You know. What if you want to do it that's fine like we're we're probably not going to right which is apparently the exact same attitude they had with Fargo like people were like this is such a big deal that like the Collins Blessed Fargo right and apparently their attitude is like as long as you don't step on our show? It's fine. You can do whatever you want. Yeah Okay Yeah. We just don't WanNa do that right. God Fargo so bad. It's what do you think about Fargo ever watched. It never watched them once. 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Oh No I don't you don't mean Fox he literally we're not talking about the parts began Dan. I said that I was like I guess I forgot. It's gone. It's gone out of the head. Haunts me burned in my memory. Every time I close my eyes is I see Ted fucking a woman with Parsa Yeah but the thing about the all that is like Seth Macfarlane even is sort of like yeah. I don't know I kind of just WanNa make my space. My sincere zero star trek show now yeah you know he's calm. I get everyone was into that for a while but I feel like now just doing the Orrville on Hulu. It's just crazy see how big the first head was. We talked about this on the buck on this seth Macfarlane Voices Curtis that could be a good alternate casting if they do the pork roses well because McFarland does have that like Sinatra reborn bad vibe God. That's of all of Seth Macfarlane's vibes many Richard bed. That's that's one of the worst the Martha uncanny or I don't know something about it. That feels like no one asked for this Do you know what his album standards. Maybe he's made several now forget. It's on the tip of my tongue to music is better than words. Hey I believe is the title I think that's what it's called. God you know how Richie is you're correct. Yeah you can take a guess eight hundred twenty one million two hundred million. Maybe seems low gave them like Oprah. Income like Oprah income there was so much higher than two hundred yeah yeah anyway well whatever he also made an album called holiday for swing third studio album. No one ever tells you you smoking a cigarette fourth album in full swing eight hundred twenty one's a little absurd pretty high. That's like Spielberg number. He's he's been going hard. Maybe Fox victim on American dad or something I don't know I know we've done talking about worker rose. We got more of a poker. Okay another thing I like. I like the Curtis. Is this like Hollywood leading man type especially of that era like literally security about the fact he's not agrily a tough guy right right this actor action star kind of thing that goes back to to like you know John Wayne not serving in the war or you know he's. He can't back up his right right right right that like he wants to be. Be a movie star and be the press he wants to have these performance of rules but he hates the Gina likes a fucking pig more than him because he actually gets his hand hand stirred. She's chill about it. Though yeah the whole show for airfield yeah yeah I like the pig PORCO show because he's drinking wine and smoking all all the time but he has over committed just give no Fox because entire movie and we'll talk about her beautiful dream Gone Curse makes the proposal to her and she's like look. I be honest. I made a promise to myself. There's one man I love and he only visits me at night and my restaurant but if he ever comes here and on his plane when I'm in my garden I'll know and I can't I can't leave behind the chance of that happening pretty devastating stating for Curtis honest where she's like not only am I rejecting you but I've pinned my hopes on pig visiting me when I'm in my garden and then similarly devastating ever sitting he flies by like right when she's saying Oh my God here. Here's here's here's here's happening and he's gone and I love. The movie ends on the I'm not I'm not gonNa tell you if you ever showed up. Is there a little secret I became friends with Gina for the rest of my life Porco and I we kind of lost touch not that felt that felt very true. Grit to me when she likes shows up and they're like yeah he just died on the end of trigger just her walking through the sanitary and she's like well. I'm comes first all credits masterpiece by the way yeah underrated people not putting into their tops of the twenty lists crazy great movie. Have you seen grip yes. Yes I know just in that you rarely watch movies thirteen movies really you're not a big movie wants Guy Fall you love sky fall you more of a td guy no yeah like animated. I play video games issue like Milton. I have tank shared on the pocket book Mama Over second-generation too big cow okay okay. It's a shady video-game Ashida Video Shandy Guy Getting into no shady guy a Shittier shady shady because we should he do do. I'll tell you what I'll tell you fucking the teams that play Rainbow Succeed or shady but that's you're talking more about the player hate the players the the game by a she wants a game guy who's like Kinda scummy and his kind of way with the modern day Max Payne. I'm in a game where you have to virtually take pills. You know that's yeah I don't. I don't know what would you name is like the last thing I can think of like grand theft auto got a lego pirates of the Caribbean. Oh shit okay scoundrels in that one love scown dirtiest of the Lago Games scalawags Allie wags and scofflaws what do like Lego Body Heat. They start just making like full on sex norm nothing LEGO. What's it called blasted auction? I would love I would love if they did like you know. Of course we did like a star wars. We went through all those homes we did Indiana Jones went through all those films we thought it was time we finally cover the rest of the Lawrence Kasdan over Auto Silverado Chill Mumford like a Mumford Mumford Lego like oh dream cash like longtime companion I would love Allegra figurine and Morgan Freeman and dream catcher and of easel yeah. I don't know if you could fit the eyebrows on a Lego head. No you need to make the head bigger. There's only one or like the tough team out. There aren't any good yeah. I'm stressed out David this time you're not dealing with this problem and you solve the sheets but you're not gonna be able to solve this one. Okay okay third. Time isn't the charm. I'm GONNA fool you. You'RE GONNA have no solution for this. I'm concerned about my legacy. Dave okay sure what you leave behind. What you leave your memories right well? No not less is the memories and more what I physically leave behind. We're going to leave behind a bunch of VHS tapes and DVD's stacks of you know one hour photo surrounds sermons all these things that my family's going to have to inherit and I had this with this. I had a box. Lami legacy box filled with old videos. You Know Oh my great grandma talking on camera photos. You found no solution and your ass dresses. I am great back to the show. What I did was I spoke to? We're friends at legacybox. They send me a big old box. It's big old barred attention. They send you a box. The Sea it's basically empty box arrived the autonomous legacy Bob. What do you put in the box legacy? You put in anything you want. You put in film reels. Let's like this do you want to do. You want to tell us what that is. It's my most cherished memories thirty five millimeter trailer for Elizabethtown. We're not joking you you put in like. VHS tapes you can put in old family photos. You could put in Shady Polaroid's. You've taken over the year I suppose so it. It was more of a family thing from England is tapping the celluloid right now. I want people to hear this is what a thirty five millimeter prints of the elizabethtown trailer sounds like an up until now if fit to carry this thing in my pocket every hour of every day no other way to watch my back went out and every time I wanted to someone the Elizabeth trailer which is every every hour of the Elizabeth trailer. 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We're talking trailer version number two it's two minutes and fifty five seconds with SR optical backup and Claude tracks they could handle that to all and all the work is done by hand right here in the US at all right so listen listen. That's the sound of the trailer being thrown into the garbage. Never been will know throw it in the box uh box. There's never been a better time to digitally preserve your memories visit legacy box dot com today just get started plus for a limited time. They're offering our listeners. An exclusive discount. Go to legacybox dot com slash check to get forty percents off your first order. That's LEGACYBOX DOT com slash. Check save forty percent today and get started preserving your past Porco the part before the duel. What else do we recalls his pig transformation and the Adriatic this scene okay? I love the China Anna Oh you've seen yes yes explanation flashback human man with a beautiful mustache we love him. All of his friends get shot down. Yes he's freaking out. It's during World War One he goes up and up and up and up. You sees his friends yep going up yeah. He sees a big band of Shimmery planes in the sky but he put boy. That's the thing you kinda very like Powell and pressburger somebody sort of blacks out for a moment. He doesn't know if he's a loosening if he's died. If he's watching Ching then go to heaven yeah. He's entered some different plane even the part where he gets shot. Even the power of the planes are getting shot down low feels loose nation because it doesn't feel like it's not like it's a super for st forward like war scene or something like that and almost feels like they're flying in this like artistic formation and then the plane just mostly Berkeley like it looks like a water water number becomes a nightmare in this very weird right right there. Is that sense that he like glimpsed the other other side. Maybe something like that happens but also that so much of this is tied to this sort of shame of a genus first husband yes getting shot down at. He lived story where she's like. Look if all Nova pilots they're all dead right this guy there that guy bear you know right but what can they do. Here's the survivor guilt almost greater than the fact the shame over him being a pig right but they're probably tied together orderly Yeah Yeah and when he tells that story sorry She sees his human face for a second then he pig again and he pick and then come on right that doesn't curtis show up while the planes ready the pirates show oh up the plane's ready ready although it's fantastic and you know it's a little tricky takeoff after I finished the plane when they're flying on the water. Her view is built in the compartment so that she can fly and foregoes plane earlier like that's a beautiful sequence to me. I love him saying you can't get my plane. Even if your buddies small there is a lot about talking she's like. Are you kidding me my butts so small like I got the best ever for planes you ever heard about. He's you gotTa pick button right right. He's not one to to criticize butts really no use a pig that pork bucket gopher pretty pretty penny hi restaurant but I one of my favorite visuals and the entire movie is all the sea pirates cease sky pirates. It's coming out of the little pet on the beach. Yes yes the ambush stockton like a clown car spill out. We talked about it in castle this guy but like he's he's very good at large. Adult sons like the pirates are in both cases large adults on adults at me. Ezaki movies are always like the most fascinating vegas yeah because it feels like a referendum on adults as a class of human being stupid yeah his dad's we talk in Tow and like his dad's usually Deeb Yeah like the dad is kind of like hey man whatever I think this movie gets the closest to being adult suck but also at Poca Roca feels like it's it's for once Miyazaki trying to sell who guess kids or adults on the idea of adults can have adventures to address right because otherwise it's always kids usually range monsters in the forest movies lock and cool. I knew I compare me as occupy like and like many serious. Let's say for missing link. which is the one? I don't like you like but I think I think I realize one of the reasons. I don't like it is that it doesn't have a child protagonist. Um and the like films are really good on that. Miyazaki level of like these adults have gotten so caught up all this bullshit that doesn't matter but they're sort of like oblivious to what's really going yeah link is kind of that character missing yet gas but he's the closest to your child protagonists right and I don't like that he is in the audience circa character the audience surrogate character your entire forty minutes. I know your problem. Is the Jack Wink Terrible. It's not great. It's not great. It's like what if someone was the worst was an asshole right and you're GONNA learn not to be national and they're like yeah like right right yeah I didn't love that. Even I think you genuinely disliked it where I was like. It's okay I hold regard. It looks looks great. How do you like the LEICA movies Carline arline yeah I'd nursing corleones paranormal and you have a take? You haven't seen paranoia paranoia my show of the other ones you going my best at least one of us. I I took a swing at a decade list. You know I it. It was some other like a coup. I feel fifty fifty on Kubo weirdly. I really loved the voice performances and Kubo sex at the Tapie. Yeah I still like the performance is though I don't know I I like the style something about that. Movie didn't totally come together for me. yeah I respect it more than a enjoyed it except for the voice performances which I thought were fun and then box trolls. I haven't seen check a paranormal apparent Fox. I've Seen Sky Fall Kubo for corozzo melancholy. I don't know reading gets like four of my twelve movies. Good movie Lucy Lewis another masterpiece made by sex criminal YEP YEP Yup. Can't you just ask me for the Jackson Lights Camera Jackson Book Smart Review. I had to send it to a right away. You sent me that Brady Bunch. I just think it took me like twenty minutes to realize that the Brady Bunch House yes. He's weird. Let's Karen Jackson posted a video of himself. Walking down the street and singing Sunshine Enga- and then at the end the camera whip pans to reveal that he is in front of the house from the pre doesn't really you're like Oh okay okay behind a wall. Yes and it's like I say oh. I just wanted to do more musical numbers. So is that what you want him to. Of course he does. His twelve twelve moves to info wars yeah right it could happen. It's a short walk Camera Jackson no but I do like the idea of Lights Camera Jackson moving to Info wars probably not really like that. Let's Jackson was completely. A political all movie critic like like outdoor revere was lights cab attacks Jackson Tanto. You really put a lot you great right actually build info wars into like a modern critical powerhouse sort you can do it you show it doesn't change all all everyone around him is like a broadcast you like sort of like pro. I gave Stupor three bags of popcorn or whatever whatever it does if you're looking for fun ride in the theaters this summer you could do worse than hitching a ride with super then like once in a while a book smart comes along where he's like. What's going to shift without pushing the clutch like you know what I mean like? He's like those are teenagers. I don't think so yes and then he has to like Oh. I don't know go back to his Borg Cube per day in charge or whatever these teens break all the rules like literally say cuff them. He's written review of books. The Man Sinatra Lights Review of Books Mart has written review it. It's just like him being teams. Don't behave this way outrageous dishonest l. Listen to a thing that teachers tell them to let me find the actual book smart the last movie I saw with you was power Rangers Rain Right. I yeah the last movie theater had to be. I expand which I liked. What one idea wow here we go okay? The entire narrative revolves around the fact that amy and molly don't know the locations of the Knights hots part location of the nights hot party. We're supposed to believe these two classmates who entirely intelligent young women. They can't and find out what this huge party is utterly ridiculous. Well you know I says the guy who always knows where the party's at that's the thing is never. I was aware of every party right. No one ever definitely didn't tell me where a party I chose to abstain. The kids are big surprise a stereotypical bunch of modern high school misfits. It's instead of writing for Co Getting Ready for college. This cast looks like they should be wrapping up Grad School Plan. He really did not he gave you enough. What's the year this year? I feel like I don't know his only a listen right. Now is for wild rose which is a good moving. That is a good movie love that movie. Did you see him yeah love. Isn't it fucking great. Oh my God I didn't you know you saw it. I mean it's really good. It's so good. It's really listen to the soundtrack. I don't realize Mary Steenburgen wrote. That saw here seem version. Just woke up. One lindane was like country music now and wrote down song was famous. People are weird yeah. She's bizarre yeah but while have you seen wild rose bat this this lady okay from Glasgow who she had she gets out of jail smuggling heroin. She's a single mom with two kids. She gets out of jail. She lives in Scotland Hartland in Glasgow. She's real old working as a cleaning lady but all she wants to do is get in Nashville and sing country music cool. She just wants to fuck and Honky tonk three chords and the truth. It's also Catt and she has she has this go check Buckley and then like when she gets on stage she sounds like Miranda Lambert Umberto. You know what I mean like. She just has this incredible voice fucking one of those movies where I went to the screening being like I duNNo. I guess this is a movie. I know nothing about it and like two limited to nose Yep. You got me going up and look encouraged people to see it. Don't WanNA spoil it but the the last twenty minutes is where I went from being like this is very effective to being like this movie's really fucking smart agree. It does some things that are not like pointedly Hedley not manipulative agreed that are very very emotionally intelligent. He didn't like the dead. Don't buy either. Adam driver. Repeatedly says the line this is going going to end badly not only does it end badly begins badly and the middle is even worse. I mean he did this. You gotta give him some points. It's for some killer dunks thing racket ptacs. He's on fire come on they. They have the big dual. Do have a very prolonged the thank you so. I think it's pretty funny. I think it is making fun of men it but it's so it it goes hard. It goes hard. The image of the more older faces swollen after they've been PAT's the sky was back down to the writing in the fighting on the shore. This is after they've been shamed into like honorable combat by you know yeah you're playing pirates seaplane. Whatever whatever all the pirates at this point of just giving up on their it isn't just close? This is crazy. These guys fighting lions fistfight is because it's not like a scuffle. It's like a gentleman's fistfight fight a chair to be the corner. PORCO is so great marcus cream queensberry like like I I suck you in the face and then you take a moment right you prepare your one punch like there's like a real like give and take but also their faces just like so grotesque looking. There's no music it's just the sounds of their faces smoshing right right when she cornerman saying it's like the fucking ten comedy points and then what's the way that he finally gets a by the way fucking Gino likes. You can't have both women and you're a boxer doc. Sir Strew Park face turns red. What did you think of that of the punchline fighting seen the fighting's fun and I mean they I think they show cartoons actually take punches which is rare yeah usually their unaffected or they sort of like a dust cloud sort of right yeah it does skirmishes real punch in and bruising and swelling? I Love Dusko and then Lord Gentleman's fight right. He goes red freezes gets the punch on him. Parker goes down but it's right after the bells rat right right right yeah and the water is shallow which I like that too Gina shows up in a plane just like she's sort of land the the plane like Talion Air Forces on trying to catch you Parka make some they say that in the boxing match yes. I'M GONNA turn you in a prude. I mean hey I need this guy. You'd need him cure him and they were like and like I got something back and they pull out like a platter appreciate. I'm like Oh it looks nice and then like Parker Russell. That'd be like all right how much twenty bucks a pound okay. If it was the finest looking for shooter you've ever seen but had goggles and a moustache so you couldn't look at it without you can remove them both with with you have to go through the effort of moving them and thinking about who you're eating meat because he drinks so much wind throughout that meade is rich. Why love it with our eat? Them is one of my best. That's one of my favorites Simpson. Though so that's the other thing it's like the wine but then he smokes excellent yeah what is what does that tell you make a nice. Tasting animal is like you've got the farm farm guy who's like. I only let them smoke. The finest Cuban cigars smirk Tam flog raw goose smokes three Cubans Day. Was I gonNA Circa Rosso. Oh No yeah the simpsons. That's one of my favorite late. Simpson's is homer eating the lobster that is that where he's like. It's so good you don't remember the is that it's not snappy but it's something like that yeah. I know I know what you're talking about that. I think episodes really funny PINCI. I remember how he kills Pinci now. Has It gives him. He's always upstairs. I wanted to draw a bath after a log into marge's like homer and it cuts family eating good guy. Sorry who don't do Enough Simpson's jokes folks. I missed this whole podcast. You're just remembering bits from the simpsons right now. What if we go back to being a podcast about the only ever nine seasons of the Simpsons no-shirt? Pretend there's no bit to that. That's just a nice world I so now right like the whole point of the phantom menace. Being the only movie is kind of a weird world. Yes the simpsons ending with season ten is just a nice world. What God wanted uh-huh what season well Simpson's starts the year? I'm born so I believe they're on season thirty thirty. One season thirty just ended ended so thirty one starting up right around the time this episode tropic. That's insane yeah. Okay go a too much. How many episodes other until thank can I six hundred and sixty? Thank you for letting me guess the final. The ending is beautiful like feo voiceover voiceover where it's like. This is her story. She gets authorship of it. This becomes about this brief moment she had with this crazy pig man. I love that she she tells us that she gets a long lasting friendship with Jean out of it right because he got two hands over to Gina Right. He's like you deal with her but she's like we've remained friends for very long time. I took over Piccolo. Hello Yep what's it called Piccolo Aviators aviation or whatever the name of the company and she's like gene and I had a great relationship and I'm not going to tell you what happened apart perfect. This is for us to know. This is my story. I think the problem though feels kind of papering over something which takes over Piccolo live in Italy and then eventually world war to happen so makes killing off of making airplanes for the Italian linguists when when rises amount I just love planes. I didn't realize we drop bombs on Pearl Harbor. Sequel is he comes back and he's like let's. Let's fucking black. Let's like let's kill the Nazis right. What if it's like a vigilante you know well? The sequel is Spanish civil war though so it's pre-world war because again finding fascist he's not till they get off into Franco. Choose to avoided PORCO has to fight feel has like this airplane shares his empire PORCO has to I like this idea that the Spanish civil war dark the suspension you or and now I'm realizing what I want is to believe that all the characters died right before Hitler took the all just had a nice peaceful that's right they all just like lean back in their you know with magazine on their face and that was it yeah they overdosed on relaxation and contentment. It's the way to go okay hundred years old canteen boxoffice tough homes in Japan. When was the release did you do you have some American box office? Oh it's like two thousand eighteen th the rerelease. Oh I'm GonNa the have that if you want the numbers I osam not I don't know wh what number Sir well came out in ninety two. That's right like actual release date. I mean if you WanNa want to guess the number one film which is a sequel in which the character knows that these in a movie go right ahead templeton correct number two film. is you know masterpiece about a big blue the big purple man masterpiece a pretty good movie purple Purple Guy Ventures Yeah right and then number three is a masterpiece about Reading Books Books Book Club Book Club actual right number. Four is a movie ever Lebron Bergen getting buckets. Oh number four is a Bengal cone film. So you know was number. One most people's zero what's right but which one life the party Atta and the number five was this one again though it's where pay back was a mother peppermint no but that kind of movie sure is more serious yet more comedic more serious and payback is a mother can you back is a mother and this woman getting payback is a mother. You sure that's the that's the way that's the tape yeah yeah. That's like peppermint Yup and actress and you know this movie. I really liked him. You know this movie. Maybe not take a guess. No you take no because it's like it's the only one that I almost saw I haven't seen any of the movies and question Russian. You almost saw this. Do you think I've seen it but he doesn't actress. I really like I think so. I told her I mentioned her name at the basketball episode when you got really excited Oh this movie's bad. Oh is about breaking in Yeah. This would be great but it's not good. It's one of the most disappointing films last five years along with them at the primary yeah both of them are just like this is right. There and the actresses are really locked in in the movies a fucking mass breaking directed by James mctigue who I sat next to it dinner one break-ins a very bad film okay top ten highest grossing films in the history of Japan at at a time in general not like animation just in general Oh crack on American and Japanese releases. There's one that you will not be able to get there is one that has the Japanese. I imagine you haven't heard of it. It's number number eight. It's called Bayside shakedown to sounds great. Though Hondo is number eleven it just recently got pushed out okay very araca push out in two thousand sixteen but now the top ten highest grossing films in the history of Japan is one two three four five Japanese films five American films. I'll tell you the national each one before you guys and I'd given you number eight. Bayside shakedown to number ten is an American member tenants number. Ten is an American film. It grossed fifteen point sixty billion yen your name on this list my name know your name your her name is okay which number four Hell Yeah I. This is where I would love your name. I feel like we should just try to throw shit of the wall. Just see if we can get any like sort of like classic you know like limitation. Let's let's do that now. We have four and eight you have four and eight spirited away is the number one stay still at is incredible number walking. They re release it. Sometimes you know what I mean like. I don't know I'm looking at this number here and it feels like the maybe that's just the number because nothing has come close to there is one film that has made spirited away is at thirty Jan thirty billion thirty billion the number two film with twenty six billion Yen Avatar now wow is it it is it's ten because what's interesting is after I looked at this list. I was going down the rabbit hole of other countries top ten highest grossing films. Almost all of them have avatar in the top three right unlike unlike the Avatar didn't quite Megan okay interested in ten and it's not that it got replaced by more recent films you know Sapporo's number eleven and avatars number ten bayside shakedowns number eight spirited away is number one there are your name and your name is number number four it did twenty five titanic is number two so spirited thirty Titanic twenty-six your name twenty-five There's one other film with essentially twenty five and a half twenty five point four where can Japanese. It's an American film. It's the most recent film to crack the list. The only American film from this decade crack the list. What's interesting here is there's a lot more staying power than in the American top ten the franchises 'cause this list is like two two thousand one ninety seven two thousand fourteen twenty sixteen o one zero four ninety seven? Oh three Oh two oh nine. It's twenty fourteen release twenty five point four eight billion yen. It's the third highest grossing film in the history of Japan any other clues. It is the only American animated film to make the list Ooh American animated Spirit Spirit Away Number One and number two this third highest grossing fell in the history of Japan is an American animated film the only American animated film to seem to permeate the culture some even looking down here the next highest grossing American Animated Film Is Number Twenty three is finding Nemo and then you have to go down to twenty eight is toy story three while he's before then. Is it a pixar movie. It is not yeah wow of wow I mean you wanNA throw some other guests for the other spots. We've got an Avatar yeah. I'll give you a hint there. Three Premia Sakis invited spirited away how is Hal in their act is number six with nineteen point six billion yen and that's movie about moving castle as long and then what role nope no. That's how the earlier ones are less video that so I guess the other one is one okay correct. Yes nineteen point three Housman castle on not very close to each other six seven on the list. So how many left we you got this American animated movie. I'm just realizing not an okay would have been the number two film at the time with Titanic. Yes okay right and then these other things that come of it have been released Speier way number one number two your name number four house move a castle six Mono Kevin Bayside shakedown to number eight Avatar ten. You're missing the American animated film which is twenty five billion yen and you're missing the five and the nine slots I will we'll say are both from the same franchise to American films from the same franchise. No clues here okay. You want more clues. I mean three. I feel like I've given you so many clues. It's a twenty fourteen animated film that is not from Pixar. It's huge. It was huge everywhere. It's not like it over performed here. No I'm trying. I'm some blind spot. I'm like it's a massive blind. Spot is one of the had the greatest cultural impacted rose frozen is the third highest grossing film The history of Japan. I was getting lost in like DreamWorks Forgot About Regular Vicky of animated made it night. CGI right artificial intelligence yeah it's the only computer generated movie to films from the same franchise. What is interesting to me is that they are the first two films of that franchise? Is it vendors and ultra ironman no no I it's not it's not super truly the first two films of the franchise okay. It's not like of Andrew is like a subterranean yeah because especially overseas this most franchise built the overseas market built and this is two movies. The franchise peaked. I mean it's literally it's this is fascinating because number five all time. Japan is the first film in the series number nine all time Japan is the second film in the series Letterman number thirteen is the third film in the series which which underperformed everywhere else Oh and then number twenty three is the fourth film like each of them. Okay okay whereas the states they pretty much grew there to films in a long franchise that has since ended x-men definitively defended and they have been trying to do other shit around it so like they're like. Can we do other stuff and other mediums. Can we make movies that are sort of connected but aren't really the same the thing they're trying to keep the sanctity of the movies but I feel like everyone feels like it's a matter of time until they bring the original actors back and do a new phone. Oh that feels like the thing everyone's like waiting and they're like the copy a little bit older. What is the bring them back and do it? What is they don't don't do it? You the first two films I mean I'll give you the biggest clue there from two thousand one and two thousand two they come out in successive years and they're huge one makes twenty billion one makes seventeen billion Harry Potter never would have gone there las personas the fifth highest grossing film The History Japan Chamber Secret Chamber of secrets like the one that everyone's like Oh yeah I guess so now. Let me throw out some other crazy stats okay last Samurai the twelfth highest grossing film the history of Japan Armageddon tied for thirteen with E. T. in Harry Potter deserves it deserves sixteenth highest grossing film in the history of Japan and foreign away the most recent film to appear Scott's a good year. I knew that one rhapsody boy and then you get into like Jurassic Park Phantom Menace Wind rises twenty one is Alice in wonderland has a very big big presence in the took Disney theme park by all accounts no coming. Everyone else I feel like is just sort of like okay we're done and the thirty first highest grossing film history of Japan of course. It's the original Bayside shakedown the movie me me. I love a bayside shakedown anytime in I'm in base. I'm more of a basic shakedown to guy well. You know I agree. I ah see that's Tarantino movie. That kids punk asked me I like a good old fashioned Bayside shakedown okay okay okay America's cheering all of our listeners. They love it doing the way I don't get why this is my Sinatra and I don't think he sounds like this yeah but this is what I'm doing. It sounds like your impression of my dress with Gordon. I know that's kind of what it is. I was thinking I know the precise weight of this looted die. I'm going to sell these governments secrets. I'm Edward Snowden and I made a weird commitment to replicating his voice cares. There's a weird no one cared about me did of course have French. I walked on. I bet it was my first balancing act. We said how he needs to complete complete trilogy of tourists who peaked in the eighties and nineties making unnecessary remake of best documentary winners guy so I called that we had not so you have to walk doc and then you have snow notices and four right and since I made that call another one has joined the fray in the annals the best documentary which is clearly what he will do free solo he will do a free solo remake. I'm Alex Ronald Yes. I got to climb this here El Capitan he'll do it free solo remake like who lost ninety director Curtis Hanson is fairness. Most of the people the ragged into the we've talked about a lot of dead people that we've nonetheless at a reanimated for the purpose of this. Do you have any final Porco Rosso or Miyazaki thought just watch the movies great price you like I am. He doesn't put Shit on knowing because it's just like people should watch the flying pig movie. I agree creativeness for that much time on the podcast. It's it's not fun again. It's like you reap. Among fourteen pages point is the it's the visual spectacle it's animation. It's the loving yeah exactly. It's character driven film. I love it. He's one of my best friends. It's the best movie ever based on in-flight but even even as a character the different film. It's not even that much of a script driven get really there. I don't know man hater. Yes I was just watching and I was like I'm in on the vibe of this movie. He doesn't say Shit Shit but you get such a vibe from Gina 'cause she. Just sort of walks through the movie I can set my watch to this movie. I understand the way it's taking you know. It's like I get it baby. I love that pig. He's just the pig is working on this working on his plane. I love that pigs. Maybe he's working on his plane. Maybe we will get PORCO to one day Banyu like this one right. You're happy you're Goto FEO goes. Fash go to red pill taper next week with man. Okay Okay Great Eight movie I I I agree that next week. We have known and Okay I can't. I can't argue with the truth. David has given up. He's staring off into the mid. Someone sent me. A text took me a second puzzle. I figured it out. Can you read it or is it a private and I'll read it off my okay. yeah no no love PORCO. You might not be my favorite Miyazaki but I think it's good that we have the two sides between us. Sure okay well Geez. I think it's a compliment green. I went sure I just think if you watch poker also and then go watch the documentary about gb the Kingdom of dreams madness sadness. It's like putting into this guy this guy chain-smoking Weirdo who makes these movies Weird Apron Sake. He's the pig pig. Have you watched the Rahman video. No I'll find him. I've been saving a lot of these things Justin. Thank you for being thank you this. This is fun. You don't watch a lot of movies but we finally got a lot of weight. Check you'd have like being into movies your subject act of blankets which is people who like the podcast and don't like it's great you which is a subset. There are some there are there was yeah yeah I do. You like the Star Wars prequels which is how I got into. Check really what's your I like. I like I like I like thinking about them more than I like. Certainly I don't like attack of the clones so I should retract statement really dislike that movie but I I like your. You've got into the Star Wars. Yeah say something crazy I easy. You're having watched any of them since we did that me neither. Why would you right? We watched them to immerse. The more I think about stuff. I'm like SOCLEAN's my favorite or it's bad. It's so bad so I can I I would end with this. I will say I remember release. Day of attack of the clones is my mom took me to see that movie and if you think that like I I cannot reconcile how excited I was to go see a star wars movie. That's all fan of medicine theater. I liked it. I was a kid but attack of the clones I literally it's during the Django fat chase scene. I fell asleep. Wow My mom had to wake me up. I fell asleep during the very early in the all in couldn't do it. The only time I've ever fell asleep in the movie theater. Peter is watching attack of the clones when they're in the asteroid belt. I just goes off. I'll say I mean you know we've we've mentioned this before but I feel like were harder on those movies because of the bit we were doing partly that's true because they certainly don't live too standing outside of the star waiver site. They're only only interesting in dialogue with the original films and how much he deviates from them how how reticent he is to like do what people want is. What's interesting about them? I don't think any of us either of US would argue that they're good but I feel like if we watched them with context. We both have more complimentary things. Thank you say that but it's not true. This is just the trick. We talk about it so much where we're like. You're like Phantom. Menace might be good and you turn it on. You're like no. I don't like it and then ends in and you're like but maybe there's something when it's on. You're like oh I see. I know this is very boring right right right but then the second engineer but you know what about what no no let's think about it fessing now how much like the prequel defenders are becoming like a thing the exact horror lying thick thicke. Finally we kicked Lucas like the people who are like texting death threats to Lucas are now like fucking Catholic the balls to make a prequel. She doesn't have the balls to make bad movies movies unlikes we talked about this at our airing Gilliam podcasts at the rear of like all the people who are mad at the Netflix are the same people who in fucking like two thousand and one hated the the original English dub because they were like oh it took so many liberties with the original Japanese script now they like a curse fucking soccer and they burrow sin occurs. They you wanna be able to say that. The last thing was better than this. It's always that's that's the art you had to be there. It's always the logic of like you had to be there for the real work we'd it was so much better than yeah. We're Dunga's breaking my back as a star wars fan five years. I have been breaking my back yeah. We're doing what you the voice broken backs. Thank you for being here. Just go Thanks for listening please around rave reviews subscribe Think Sanford good offer social media thanks to to lay Montgomery furth theme song Pat Reynolds and Joe Bone for our work go to that conference from real nerdy Shit Goto t public for some real nerdy shirts. I think we're working on some new shirts that will be hit the Internet around Christmas time Friday. Oh sure yeah yeah this year. They'RE GONNA have to call David. This area have to call a blank for storm in the malls looking for their CECCHI merch tickle me cecchi please. Can we be ready for CECCHI. Okay you can use it as a pillow dollar bill. y'All you put them in your pillow case Belleville right next week princess-mononoke k. and this pigeon dot com check listen moral commentaries yep. They're good. What are we up to now good question what would be approach from home home? It's going to be by panther next. Oh great comments Jamal boy yeah I mean we really actually he did a good job on that. Although once in a while we're just call your shot. I think I I remember when I was in. I was like Oh that was good I don't you don't you start it. You don't like Michael Be Jerome Jamal Jordan in that movie in particular. Oh I forgot about this movie. I think he's good I think he's good in fruitvale which which is not a good movie I think he's bad and Black Panther which is also a what's better than fruitvale but I listen to it for Jamila. Ah It's also one of those things like sometimes we're just quiet because we're like I said could scene yeah. Oh yeah this is cool. It's also using the commentaries monetary in their three in a row like that by the third one. We're like crazy right right and this is like Oh. I'm just GONNA give into this move. I don't have the energy yeah it. Actually I holds up great when you do that because you've seen other yes sensibly fun and Dr Morrow Movies Mint someone you're like Oh. This is a special right right right right. Yeah okay anyway so that's always PORCO Rosso Fox absence over get out of here. He is us the whole okay I think the whole point of Porco Rosso is that he fucks and the movie is like him largely remembering what it is like to be one who fucks Archer fucked and he will fuck again yeah. I feel like that's the tension in the movie makes love because I don't think he we'll let anyone in to that guy who sit there and eat that plate of pasta like he does and sips that wind like you that Guy Fuck. That's good fucked. Okay you're right. You're pleasures of the flesh of a new thing would be to be like I saw the new Clinton. That movie makes love. Oh Boy God the souvenir makes love severe does make a Donald Curtis is not then we're done. You wonder what a neighbor sure. 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Has Anyone Been Buried on the Moon?

BrainStuff

04:46 min | 1 year ago

Has Anyone Been Buried on the Moon?

"This episode is brought to you by the Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. Now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply. Welcome to brain stuff a production of iheartradio. Hey, brain stuff, Lauren Bobo bomb. Here you gene, or gene shoemaker trained, astronauts and founded a new science born on April twenty eighth nineteen twenty eight Schumaker was one of the twentieth. Century's? Great minds, his work on impact craters affected, everything from Nasr's Apollo missions to the dinosaur extinction debate for his contributions to human knowledge, he was awarded the national medal of science by then president George H W Bush in nineteen Ninety-two, but a different honor eluded him shoemaker studied the moon from afar, but he often dreamed of climbing into a spacesuit and walking on its surface. Sadly, he never got the chance Addison's disease crushed his hopes of becoming an astronaut, but in nineteen Ninety-seven some of his ashes were laid to rest near the moon southern poll that made him the first and to date the only person to ever receive a lunar burial. It was a poignant epilogue to the man's career. Schumaker was a geologist by training and craters were one of his great passions. He helped confirm that the famous Barringer crater near flagstaff, Arizona crater that's five hundred seventy feet or one hundred seventy three meters. Deep was made by an asteroid impact. He also championed the hypothesis that another such impact killed last non avian dinosaurs sixty six million years ago and by mapping some of the craters on our moon. He revolutionized our understanding of its geology in nineteen sixty one the United States geological surveys set up an Astra geology research program shoemaker often considered the founding father of Astra geology was chosen to lead. It NASA would enlist his services to shoemaker joined future. Apollo astronaut on field trips to Barringer crater and other sites where he trained them to collect rock samples a perhaps seemingly simple skill set. But one would let them eventually bring home the first moon rocks humans ever saw and thus making all kinds of research possible. His work was instrumental to the discovery of the shoemaker Levy nine comet which struck Jupiter in one thousand nine hundred four one of the comments co-discoverers was Eugene's wife and fellow scientist Carolyn shoemaker cumulatively, gene. And Caroline discovered. One thousand one hundred twenty five asteroids and thirty two comments, but on July eighteenth, nineteen Ninety-seven. The couple was involved in a tragic car accident though Caroline survived. Gene was killed. The very next day shoemakers former student Carolyn Porco, devised a fitting tribute, a planetary scientist at the university of Arizona Porco learned that her mentor was going to be cremated. So she spearheaded an effort to put an ounce. That's twenty eight grams of his ashes aboard NASA lunar prospector spacecraft the cost of sending things into space can run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars per pound in terms of time and energy and research. And so although physically small that single ounce is a huge tribute polycarbonate earn capsule was built by Celestis these same company that sent ashes of Star Trek creator, gene Roddenberry into orbit wrapped around shoemakers. Capsule was a brass foil ribbon bearing a picture of the Barringer crater and thematic quote from Romeo and Juliet. And when he shall die take him in cut him out in little stars. And he will make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with night and pay no worship to the garish sun. With the precious cargo in tow, the spacecraft launched at Cape Canaveral Florida on January sixth nineteen ninety eight more than a year later the vessel whose objective had been to hunt for water with deliberately crashed near the lunar. South pole shoemaker's ashes went down with it. Celestis hopes to enter other human remains on the moon at some point. But for the moment, she maker has the place to himself Carolyn shoemaker said in the nineteen ninety eight press release it brings a little closure in a way to our feelings. We will always know that when we look the moon. The gene is there. Today's episode was written by Mark man, Cini and produced by Tyler clang brain. Steph is a production of iheartradio's how stuff works for more in this lots of other unearthly, topics. Visit our home planet has works dot com and for more podcasts. Right. Heart radio is the iheartradio app. Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Today's episode is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. Now when you go out you can cash in what's in your wallet.

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2. La Astrologa Cabalstica

AstroC�bala C�smica

20:17 min | 1 year ago

2. La Astrologa Cabalstica

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Anime Podcasters 93: Studio Ghibli

Anime Podcasters

1:30:08 hr | 6 months ago

Anime Podcasters 93: Studio Ghibli

"Hi guys, welcome back to a brand new episode of anime podcasters. I'm your host household Ginger and with me. I have two people that I'd rather watch Dave alone. Go ahead and say hi guys. Hi. Hi guys, guys. Sorry. That's why I'd rather leave them alone. Today. We have the I have a big I'm very excited to be here with you Hotshot. It's been a minute. It's been a minute. I mean life happens and all circles of the world and we are no exception to that. We've had to adapt. Yeah, that's just kind of yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a Christmas time all around GoPro kills here as well. How's it going man? Hi. I'm the one that no one wants here. You're right. I'm the I'm the stepdad wage. He wants to see come back. You're right. I have a couple of quick housekeeping notes. I want to get to before we get into this very special episode of the podcast when we're going to be talking about Studio Ghibli movies. We're going to have a long form discussion with hot shot and go pro Q. I'm very excited to get their input on it because they have been watching a many movies and I've caught up basically. It's the only way I can say for once. I'm catching up to a Hotshot on something that's anime based. So I'm really happy. This is like new territory. So let's get into these weird actually. Yeah a little bit and let's get into these housekeeping notes. I'm going to put a time stamp in the podcast as to where you can skip ahead if you don't really care. So first of all, we have new artwork for the podcast by Kyo. Thank you so much and it looks amazing the new cover photo in the new probation for the podcast and your logo is gorgeous. So a big thank you to you. Just I want to give you your credit your do the podcast looks amazing things that you so thank you so much for that Kyo series. And then I also want to thank everyone the Facebook page is nearing four hundred legs on our way to 500. So that's really been a really appreciated and then the three other things I want to mention off. So we have a new link where you could give us a reviews for the podcast. So if you go on rate this podcast anime podcasters, you can leave us a five star review and it will be on any podcast app allows it. So if you want to give us a rating the link is in the description, we really appreciate those also on my YouTube channel. I've updated we have now have a bunch of anime podcast or playlists. We have both of them for list topics only movie topics only gaming topics only and just a bunch of I broke down and organize all the episodes into different playlist. So if you want some specific episode of the jump podcast go check those out I even have a Naruto only playlist cuz we've done a lot of the are two episodes. We have we have like over ten which is crazy. And finally the last piece of thing I want to say. It's a stupid law in my room and I can't kill get up stupid. Sorry. I'm not even kidding. This thing is pissing me off at it off my pump filter get off the sorry. All right, by the way, guys you guys can suck. Messaging us on the Facebook Messenger about can you leave a review for us? There is literally a tab where you can review our review the page and the podcast and everything. I appreciate that you guys are dead. We appreciate that. You guys are messaging us and letting us know that you like the podcast but the messaging is more so for collaboration. Yes, and we don't sell merge with don't sell they were supposed to I had some I had designs laid out. We just just can't find a a site that'll like pay it or like give us a good person and the final thing I want to say. This episode will be the only one this month just because we moved into a new schedule September, you know hot just got a new job. We're all getting a bit busy. So this month we're just going to give ourselves one big long form conversation about a Studio Ghibli movies. So this is why we're doing such a big broad topic. So that's enough of updating. Let's get into the meat of this. I really want to start with this question. How did you guys find Studio Ghibli? Because this is a super popular song. Studio that produces gorgeous anime films, but for some reason I've only been aware of it for the last two years which is ridiculous, right? Okay. So I want to start off with I want to start off by saying I brought up Studio Ghibli in one of the koala casts and I was shocked to my core that Joanna never heard of Studio Ghibli, right and even but also while I'm at that also found out that sorry guys, the the supposedly the actual pronunciation of the name is Ghibli. I just called a Ghibli cuz it was often sung better a Ghibli just like me calling Diane Jaden it off with me about her. You just refused to use his name even though now I can actually pronounce it but it it's been far too long for me to cry right now. Yeah. It's like at this point we may as well just basically yeah, but even even am shocked to hear that when Jane didn't know any of the Ghibli movies or what any of them even were more shocked to hear that I had actually watched a fair deal of them before you even right I watch More sense than but I have watched at least three or four of them. One of them fell asleep was because I just got bored out of my fucking skull but the ocean waves everybody's going to hate me for that one though. Everyone's going to hate me, but you know what that that's how I felt when I watched that the time you want to show you say which movie that was yeah just cuz while I'm at it it was actually house Mercy. Wow, that's one of the better ones in my opinion. I I could not get into a disabled my life. I I tried watching it one time when I was younger with my sister very rented it from Blockbuster. I thought that was and I just couldn't stay awake then tried watching it again with my sister and my dad and I just couldn't stay awake through it either and I'm just like this movie always puts me to sleep. I don't know why it was going to have to do it like straight up in the morning tomorrow to like get you to sit through. Yeah. Sure make me fall asleep again right after I wake up for me. It was ocean waves like one of the tiredest. Yep. Heard of that one ocean waves. That was the one that for me I got through it. I I didn't like it. I really didn't like do you mean Tales From Earthsea or so? It's it's a Ghibli movie called ocean waves. Oh, okay. So I don't think that one is not necessarily have to watch to like have seen them all know for sure. Like I think or that one's it's just one of the ones that that that's just kind of what part of their repertoire the ones that are that most people agree are consistent wage really good ones are the ones directed by yeah, Miyazaki, but in in my opinion as far as house moving council's go their house moving castle one, I love the design of the world. But other than that, I think the movie is really sluggish and there's not a lot that happens. Like there's no there's no like beginning middle and end to it. Like it has like the first part is the main girl going off to try and find a cure for your actual doing trying to find a cure. She just kind of leaves She's Gotta leaves because I'm old now, I think yeah old I'm a leaves eventually just leaves her home with like with no explanation then like Midway through the movie wage. If there's a war going on okay, nothing happens there like like how is flying over a battlefield he comes back and then then the then the then the new plot for the movie is fowl is like fixing the howls cursed because his heart is missing. There's no consistent Choice as to what is supposed to happen in that movie. I do like the the environment of the world. That's that's the strongest part of it and house. Like what is a demon mode or like his true form? It says it's one of the curse word fuck things. It's even worse for me because I don't I was interested because at the time when I saw it the Dark Knight was a big movie. Okay and Christian Bale is the English voice for how so he uses his palm like voice for like the the owl saying or whatever he is. I was going to give this movie a second chance, but no so it's it's really distracting and like it's one of the one of the low-wage Or Ghibli movies for me, please. How how to come down to go actually actually affected at a point that one of my favorite characters in all the Ghibli movies. I saw was in that movie for me was calcifer the little girl named Kelly Lambert hilarious. I think it's a really good character. I know like I love like you gotta know. I'm going to die. I'm going to die like no, I'm just getting clean and I know seriously like put words. I'm going to die seriously. Like what are you doing home? And I'm not I'm not going to lie. You guys are on your own. I'll have I'll have to like let you sit through it yourself because now you're actually into these movies. I know kind of what what you like and what you don't like though. I have unpopular opinions on more than a couple of them. I there are a few Ghibli movies that I just fucking such as faith and the ones that I adore the ones I have one. I'm actually curious one one that I completely adore and it was actually my first Ghibli movie ever was Spirited Away almost universally loved. Yep. Like I don't think any I don't think a person on the planet can disagree you wouldn't like Spirited Away deep hoarse. Yeah, that that was that that was my first one. That was the one where am I watched it on my own one time and no matter how many times I've seen it and I watched it when I was like six or seven maybe a little older but I can't help but always remember the entire sequence in the bathhouse When sin actually starts working for the yeah. Oh and just the entire batch. I've seen of her having to wash this dog. Monkey grimy mud, white satisfying going Anton's at the end. Oh, yeah. It's it's it's it's so satisfying like that. I'm sure thing and then when we finally get the emergence of no face, yeah or no neighbor no face no face. No that's not who was that's not who was inside the no creature. No I'm saying like after birth. He's done for with that. We finally get the emergence of no face and then what the refusal of the payment and then him just going absolutely fucking ballistic and I love I love like how we like just handing out gold to everyone and like, oh my God more pleased. You're like a free Bank have money just keeps hanging out and you know money and everyone's like oh, what is it? What is what is it again? That for Gruesome to send refuse the payment or or she's like looking for she's looking for Haku and he's like in pain and black and she's like chasing him through the bathhouse trying to yeah catch a little so she runs into the she runs into like the parade that they're having inside the bathhouse and no face is like throwing out the gold and there's food and everything right and then she comes up to a or bumps into him and then he hands out the gold asked like basically like take the gold and she's like, no that's not what I want or like basically just job I mean that she's grown into a selfless person. All right, then he loses it like how dare you have well, defined characteristics and be a decent human being I'm going to keep looking at this move or or the or the or the or the fucking reveal of the parents and the pigs. That was just I mean, I know this an anime movie with this weird. It was like I was looking at home had how do you figure I'd like I was looking at stuff about this movie and the 20-year anniversary is. Away is next July guys. That's crazy. It's 20 years old. Oh really? Wow. It's a night. It's a nineteen-year-old wage. See I didn't yeah. All right going back to the going back to the previous Point. What do you mean the parents got? Well, they were eating all that food. That was not theirs and then they got turned into pigs. You shouldn't oh, okay kind of like the the turning into a donkey in Pinocchio. Just you're just you're just an ass so good. Yeah, that's you know, what time? Looks like you just knew they they just raked up support characters when they were driving that car. I was like yeah. Yeah, this is about Sin. Okay, cool. Oh, oh actually one or two more things on Spirited Away is actually one character that I didn't really like all that much at least the first time watching through it. I probably have changed my mind on it since it's actually hot, really I don't even know I don't even know why I just couldn't really get into maybe the fact that he was the friend and I just didn't like those kind of characters. Usually I don't like that kind of character myself, but I think and then I've only seen this movie like once and I still loved it. Like I Austin's girlfriend at the time had like a collection and she brought over Spirited Away and like we thought we had an hour and half to kill and she was just like have you seen Spirited Away of like know I love movies and I love Miyazaki movies, but I haven't seen this one. She's like, all right, sit down. I don't need to see that. I was really surprised that I saw before wage. What terrified me I usually I do like when I was a kid, I was like digging into those movies like the movie that I saw the most or the most Ghibli movie that I saw as a kid was My Neighbor Totoro. That was my first introduction to to it. Like I saw the original English dub VHS tape and way back in the day. This was before they did the Disney did the redeb that the Fanning sisters. So it was like the older older one and I think it's the one that we have on the DVD. I'm will go into an emulator wasn't going to budge on that one. I want to hear when I hear Boston's out loud opinion on that one cuz on Totoro. Yeah. Oh really? No. Go ahead get started. I didn't I didn't hate it at all. The designs were cute except for Totoro. I enjoyed the characters except for Totoro Scott. I I laughed I laughed at the dog. Except a Totoro just I okay. My favorite thing about My Neighbor Totoro was actually the cat bus and that's easily the most terrifying thing in the movie except for total was pretty good. I don't know why I know that I'm getting a sense awesome that you might not like Totoro himself. The character Totoro is the mascot of Studio Ghibli and I know he's like supposed to be like the most friendly kind of character that there ever was in in these kind of movies, but total just freaks the fuck out of me. Okay, I think Austin is afraid of the the big mouth that got like it or like whenever Totoro Smiles Austin was he doesn't do anything but smart. It's either smile or mouth closed nothing else. Yeah, and especially when he opens his mouth. Oh dear God. No, I just I the story is cute. I like I like learning like what the sisters are going through. I like them. Having that connection with their their mom in the hospital moving away with their dad and still having that kind of story arc. It's just Totoro himself where he's supposed to be this charming girl you and like be there for you kind of character and creature for me. He's pissed your pants fear-inducing. I don't know why I want to love him. I want to love them but I can't I I'm I'm flabbergasted at that because he's not like a horror monster. He's not like he's not here. Hold on. Let's throw let's throw Totoro and Nightmare on Elm Street. Let's see what happens. He will be able to locate his job like a snake down the power your hall and he will smile with glorious does it and then get back to me on Toro being a evil My Monster seriously like I love bloodsucker. You're looking let's see if you love the killer bunnies and blood see how do you not love Totoro what the hell's wrong with you because he's terrifying her birth. I terrifying yours, or I'm making it up. Dude you're wrong on all levels. I mean I know but it's my opinion. I can be wrong. If I chew great great great point of view. I actually I wanted to ask for you guys what you think? Okay. So I was just doing some some research about this stuff in the top four highest grossing anime films. There's three Ghibli movies and they take off take out a spot for three and two if you had to guess what they were without it up, please what do you think is like those one of those three movies are any of those three movies if you had to guess I'm just curious if you guys could figure it put your number two has got to be. Yes. At least yeah. Yep. In a way is on their new it Totoro has got to be on their own. Okay? No, okay. No. Oh, these are surprisingly these other two are surprising one of them. We've already talked about I'll give you that. Oh house number and then what do you think is number for it's one of the ones that I watched to catch up with you guys, please tell me it's okay. We agree this. Always on there. So lucky one. I like is on there. Please tell me enough. No not Dan minutes Ponyo. I love Graham. Oh, woe on Yom! No fishy. You see this is why I love you, cuz I can agree with you and disagree with you. But this one it's like I'm really happy. I can agree with you on this one and just for the people wondering what number one it was. It's actually your name. Your name is is the number one. Yeah. Oh, that's your 2060 the number one anime movie of all time. Enemy. Yeah, highest-grossing. So like I am Dispatch grab that's a little surprising. Yeah, like I loved you. I loved your name, but the same time after like I'm more surprised that movie I think adjusted for inflation is part of why your name is a little higher plus it was once it plus it had a wide wider release as it was coming out. So it was in America as it was still in. You know, we're we're all wrong. Number one is actual Dragon Ball number 12. God dammit. No kids above it. I that I have no doubt. I had no doubt turn him know. He means like it's not dead princess. No tire on the list. No keys number eight. Oh, okay, but like I feel bad cuz we actually sidestepped next next next to ninja class in the Land of Snow. I don't need one or yards. Are you buffoon? Whatever dude, it's some it's I'm in I'm in a Ghibli mode mode, whatever you want to call it, but I want to go back to this point Jim. You you didn't have fine. Other than that, you know, but cuz I said Ponyo and I felt like it was like a you guys didn't agree like Hotshot loved it and kill you you weren't about it. I feel like God, is that what I yeah, I think it's just that you surprised that it was ion. I was surprised cuz I I don't think it's that good. I'm not saying that's bad I'm saying it's a cute movie but you know, I don't think I like Ponyo. I don't think it's what was it above it was above it was number four. Well not school was over there often. Okay, wasn't so how's Moving Castle grossed more than ano? Okay. Oh, I thought it's for I was too Spirited Away is too I would say so like it was for three and two so too was off then how then pain. Yeah, I I would put on you at like in eighth if I were to rank it from like top ten like I think it's a good I think it's a good Ghibli movie. It's just dead. One that I would find myself going back to nearly as much as like they Spirited Away Porco Rosso or Kiki really you taste of human blood. What else did you have? I love Ponyo such a long movie. Like it's I think the best part I think some of the best part of it is just like how nonchalant some some lines are red. Like, for example, there's the did you taste blood off like, okay. Well, when is consuming Blood part of the process of becoming human you have the blood? Oh God, that's the case vampires must be so human age limit of what she does to get ham though, when she breaks free of her father's person and controls the waves and runs on them with her fucking chicken legs and just jumps off and just jumps onto the onto the surface for the sake of ham and then causes a almost globally wide tsunami because I watch it off. It was like raining like crazy outside and that just like it felt like the right vibe to watch that movie. I don't know why but like the fact that it was like rain, that is perfect. That's probably the perfect time to watch that movie in the next morning happen. It's all sunny and they go out in the boat. Then you're just like it's raining. You're just like your if you put pain you on at the right time the Sun will come out towards the climate package speaking of speaking of the flooded World though. I I love you. Jaan boat so scared. I love soaps case boat. Oh, yeah, where is where's candle power off light it and put it in and then it just keeps going that seems like that feels like something that I would have liked imagined doing as a child like that that's such like an imaginative or being that like, it feels like something that a child would imagine. Yeah one one scene in that. I know this is supposed to be Charming, but to me it was terrifying. We already know your birth. Hanging on Totoro, you fucking dusting when when Sasuke and Ponyo are passing by parents and a crying child. And then Ponyo just looks back Upon a Child just crying fiercely jumps off onto the water and the fish snowed grabs the baby by the face and then just like squishes his face and a weird dude face morphs into a job and then just leaves waving to the parents. Okay, like the what was supposed to happen there like what you're supposed to get him? No, no, no in that scene. She's supposed to be taking the cold away the child cuz the baby's crying cuz it's got a cold right but so like Tanya comes up and like basically takes the cold away from the child. Yeah. I didn't get that. I know slides weird. It's like a it's got to be like some kind of like a Japanese thing or something like that. I don't know what the Superstition behind that is, but I have a feeling that's kind of what they were going for and that's part of birth. I mean like why she passed out in her power started fading away because she had the cold I just left my guess what was going on? Like I know this is Ghibli we're dealing with but that's weird. It is weird. I know I don't think I don't like that either. I think it's a really strange way to move your movie forward in the world that is still a cute movie in the same movie We have basically the guardian of the ocean who got it all down with this giantess of the ocean. I'm not surprised by that. Have you been to rule 34 search up giantess stuff. You'll find plenty. Look I'm aware. I probably been there more than you know, just they got they got it on this guy and makes his appearance on the surface just soaking the water so he doesn't dry up as he's making his first way to Ponyo been trying to find his daughter and I can't accept all that weirdness more than just running up to a baby and squishing his face and leaving that to me is not weird or that to me is weird. The other stuff is not I don't know if the dog She is fine to you. Just that one scene one scene is like this is just weird. You can crave ham and destroy the world. All you want. I will still watch an entire France an entire Series where it's just you searching for years old. People are Subs abstract Dick's and you can parade around the world and a candle powered boat. That's fine. Grabbing a baby by the face and rubbing your face on it smiling all the while know with your creepy fish chicken beef fish chicken legs know I'm out. Thanks. I had a good time. But I'm told one thing I appreciate from Ghibli movies though is how they cover it kind of like early Dragon Ball the incorporate like humans with animals. You know what I mean? Do they had lighter like but I know the one you talked I need another one. We didn't talk about nicely is telling me we are yes, thank you. Thank you. Yo, how many times do I give you a softball you like? No, I'm going to guess another thing just to piss you off. There you go. There you go off. How you doing? I'm sorry. Did I say report grow? So I meant pom poko with all of these have animals in them even know there's not a lot of there's not a lot of Life humanoid animal creatures. I think it's just poor corrosion. I love him. So I ignored them. I was a fun movie. It's probably my third favorite Ghibli movie. I don't blame you. That's a really good one. Like like I'll I'll tell I'll so my my top three later on but Porco Rosso The Flying Pig and dog bites and just this pig basically just wanting to fly round the world of his own regard not really get into any worse or any fights or anything like that anymore. I love him because of how Charming that that fucking promises and then when he gets in a fist fight in the end, I think is asked Mr. Piggy just love it Portland. This this is porky Pig's ancestor and he kicked fucking I love his like herocious. This is tenacity his like he doesn't give birth. Remember, yes shot down by the by those enemies and like they see these players playing Crash like, oh, he's gone know he's chilling on an island. He's going to get back to you you like if you go home, you're definitely not on the right side here, you know what I'm saying? And like yeah poor girl got out the really the relationship between him like him and his I'm going to say former love for God sake of this that's just basically watching him fly like the Countess. Oh, yeah actually like his connection with her. I found fuking adorable his mentor slash almost romantic girl involved with with the engineer you mean Apprentice? Yeah. You said Mentor? Yeah might be like, oh, okay. All right, like Mentor Francis almost borderline romantic that was awful quiet was the name. I think I know. Yeah. Yeah P. Oh, yeah. She she other than himself. I don't think that there's my favorite character in this movie. I don't think she was really like romantic song. Interested in him. I saw it more as like just an admiration sort of thing. Like she she looks up to him because like he's lived such a full or such a an interesting life. So she doesn't know Wildlife. I'm totally intended shut the fuk up leave it basically just like he has such a mysterious past and you're so interested in what the one that asked was and like that not only that but his personality is so it draws you in like he he's not he's not like an a solo. He's not a Han Solo type of character. He's just leave me alone and let me fly away. Yeah, he's a he's a very free-spirited person. But he's also a little cold and he's he just wants to he wants to chill out and live his life live the rest of his life doing what she loved. That's why I'm just cuz he seen what kind of connections that yeah and what kind of heartbreak it can go see is when I when I think when I think Porco Rosso obviously like first thing I think of is the actual birth Airplane fights and stuff like that. Yeah, but the first thing that always comes to my mind is when he's talking to Theo and he finally agrees to something. I can't remember the context and Theo kisses his cheek then halfway just like goes away and goes to bed. I can't remember the context. Well leading up to that but the smile on her face is just so freaking genuine and lays down with subjects. Like I can't wait to wake up tomorrow. It's so damn cute. I love it. I love it alot. Sorry Jan. I was just going to say like I was going to make a joke of like poker also gave me a new topic. I thought we could do like anime pigs like, you know Parker Rosso Hawk from Seven Deadly Sins any other Pig we can find out and it would be like a great topic the parent that appearances perish away. Like I think your list Diane and the Looney Tunes anime Porky Pig the Looney Tunes anime store will go with the Looney Tunes the anime Porky Pig what we're going to do one doesn't take an anime. Yep. Going to have to make it we need to give them a shotgun. Oh my God. Why did Porky Pig a shotgun? I don't want to do this. Yes, you do. Your Looney Tunes fan. You're an anime fan. These things should have a baby girl that just because much like two divorced parents. I'm a love them both. Equally that doesn't mean I want them. That doesn't mean that I want them in the same room. I want them as far away from each other as possible. I had a very dark joke my head but I'm not going to say it out of respect for everyone listening and everyone else. I also want to know if we can start steering away from Barker. Oh, so Chi-Chi. Yo off of that one. Yeah. I love Gigi. My second favorite Ghibli movie. I said Ghibli Ghibli. Okay, it's also it's my second favorite song. You know what I'm just going to edit it before the blue before the I love Kiki. I love her. I love the cat. I love who she stays with wage. I love her training to be an actual which I hate her boyfriend. Oh, so annoying. I don't think I don't think I like him where I don't think I really hate him. I think he's just there with me, you know what character I love the the character that she meets like right at the beginning and or the artist who's like living out in the cabin in the woods. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I told me a second to remember your town. But yeah, she was like a bit of like I'm having a hard time. What should I do? And she like kind of guides Gigi back into like this is how it works and blah blah blah and I just remember like that was the lowest you've been she was and she kind of Sky rocketed back up with your hold delivery service and everything again, that's how I remember the paint the painter girl who gives you the advice of like if you don't have your head cleared them or like if you don't have a clear goal, then it's probably time to step away from whatever it is you're working on and just just like clear your senior winter stuff. I just have a name and birth. And you're which you go? She's not a good first Kobayashi. We'll just go with you. Okay, so when we first made her see see us a bit of an oddball but at the same time in the city that Kiki's in she also is so it just seems like all the more reason to actually find her and have that connection even though everyone else in the city is life. She's weird. Don't talk to her. Meanwhile Kiki's over here. Like I'm a which I kind of have to I need help help me understand this and just to have that that's all of the connection honestly. I really do. I really do enjoy it. I really do feel like she's a strong reason why he he is on the straight and narrow as she is like both both her and both her and the Foster Baker's the Baker season. That's why I said Foster cuz that's just what popped in my head the baker's that she's dead. With like keeping her on that straight and narrow path, especially when it comes to her delivery service and her job on that. Yeah, but like all Ghibli movies. There is one scene or page one sequence that breaks my fucking heart and that's when Kiki starts losing her powers. Yeah. That was very heartbreaking. So we're not renting but the same time like I said, like she was kind of one-dimensional at this point. It was just like this good natured person who delivered food and now like let's give her a bit of a struggle and when I saw that happen, I was like, okay now, let's see how she reacts on the pressure and when the defense stacked against her and not this whole feel good thing of like, oh my daughter needs muffins, you know and hear your muffins like something different, you know, even even getting to the point where she can't understand her off earlier anymore. He's just a cat now. Yeah. Yeah and especially when that cat leaves her to go get some and it's just so uncomfortable. It's just like I don't understand. Stand why you're leaving me just like oh my God Kiki know but at the same time I just felt like in general that movie just had such a happy tone and what I'm realizing now, I'm talking about all these different movies with Ghibli. There's a lot of just kids as characters like main characters are supporting characters. It's a very kid based character is actually yeah since June from from. What's that Center is a sin It's s I thought it was in. Oh, okay. Okay, so send from Spirited Away Kiki from aptly named Kiki the girl from Howl's Moving Castle? Well, she's a little more of an adult cuz she works at a works at a shop. I would say like maybe teenager like somewhere Border in a seem to be the same lines of Mononoke then cuz I know case easily teenager and so like a lot of them are more so about like the only one I can think of one and becoming an adult the only one I can think of that's straight-up about an adult at least in my my name. Yeah, bro. So actually yeah, the main carer Barker also is like a middle-aged Peg adult. Yeah or older. Actually, I think he is like in his sixty. No, I think he was like 40 maybe 50 would be wasn't a teenager anymore very wasn't a young piglet either. I know it was cursed. It's a job. What about like nausicaa that's on the main character? Like that's a teenager, right? Yeah not yeah not I'm not scared teenagers leading up on two young adults. Yeah, and then I was just be no you go ahead. Oh, I think the only other except I think the only other exception is pom poko. Yeah, that was all raccoons though. I don't I don't need that one. That's the that's the one about the raccoons. We haven't watched. That one was really good. I if I just put a a bit of a precursor, it's a it's hilarious. It's pretty funny. It's basically putting these raccoons with obviously spiritual Powers cuz it's a Ghibli movie and they live in this forest and the rest construction that starts to occur around there for so long. Sure to fight back to humans and find ways to delay or disrupt the construction so that they're forced it remains intact and a lot of stupid stuff in a lot of funny stuff and a lot of Ghibli stuff happens throughout the movies the movie to make like prevent from the construction to like destroy the entire Forest when when Ghibli stuff doesn't happen in Ghibli movies, you know, you have a problem. I have a question for you. Are you aware of what part of their body? They're using during this movie? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I was just hope I was just saying that giant had been like the like the English dub where they call them pouches instead of Balzac's. I mean, I watched it this morning, but that one went to me I think got moved in with my favorite song Universe if that makes sense. No not my favorite Universe my favorite my favorite Universe. The universe is is for sure nausicaa nausicaa like the universe laska was just so cool. So all the bugs I would definitely want to get that off. My favorite like structure in the sense of like the way it's narrated and the way it's like, oh the raccoons and then and you like really get like a frame-by-frame play of like, how are they going to go route screwing over this construction site or doing this over there? It's really cool. I really like the way it's a it's described and how it's narrated throughout the the the the structure of the anime. Yeah, like how it's structured life the way that it really cool like that but nausicaa the universe and nausicaa is so cool before before we get to noska. I'm sorry. I just have to get this out. Cuz if I don't I'm going to hold on to it for a while, but we were describing the raccoons and their ball sacks the scene that immediately went into my mind was from South Park when they all enlarge their ball sacks and hop on them, like happy Hops, and I was a mad thing a bunch of raccoons doing said action. They actually do that in one scene. Oh dear God, it's not just going to watch this tonight. We program. Well, they might be because I asked him has to see it now. I laugh I laugh at ball sacks. I laugh at fart show. I I really don't have any taste but this way we can have this way we can actually have a full-on pom poko podcast episode that's terrifying. We'll talk about raccoons and their ball sacks for an entire half hour. I'm down. How many times can we say taint in one podcast? Joe Knows It Go though you were you were you can't you can't talk about later. No home. And you want to you want to know what? Okay in all seriousness. You want to know why I was cutting you off to talk about cutting ball sacks and shot know. Well, yeah, that's probably one reason but because noska is my favorite Ghibli movie. I understand how okay what you so you didn't want to talk about your favorite movie you wanted to talk about that bass. Correct. I didn't want to talk about my favorite movie because I wanted to make a joke about ball sacks and friends, but your favorite movie go ahead nausicaa. So when I when I first showed it to me, it's actually one of the few Ghibli movies we have on Blu-ray before I got the yeah bootleg DVD collection so nice. So like I was young at Walmart one day. I was on that real quick like we were at Wal-Mart one day Austin was I don't remember what else was doing. He was doing something else. We were in the video section and I happened to see a bunch of movies that were like twenty bucks for Blu-ray and I was like, you know what I'm going to start building up my Ghibli collection in Blu-rays, so that way I can have them all in glorious HD. So I felt I saw nausicaa was one of the ones that was on there and personally, I hadn't seen it yet. Mian askance. Away, I think our spirit away we have on a regular DVD. We got to get it on Blu-ray attack on but wage. But anyway, so I saw it and I was like, I haven't seen this. I keep hearing good things about it and I absolutely need to need to see it because for me the more animated films. I see the more knowledge I have about these films and personally. I also really like to look at behind-the-scenes stuff about these movies. It really intrigues me because that's another thing is that this whole movie there is no computer animation in the entire film. It's all drawn on hand. Everything is drawn on hand like with pencil and paper painting and it's just an intense movie and when we finally watched it on the Blu-ray, I was absolutely blown away, but I'm reading stuff about Nautica and I didn't even know that I want to read this out cuz I don't think you guys even know this so it was released in Nineteen Eighty-Four, but then a heavily I'm going to take this from the wiki cuz this is really cool a heavily edited at a Tatian of the film created by Manson International Warriors of the wind was released in the U age States and other markets throughout the mid-to-late 1980s and was eventually replaced in circulation by an uncut re dubbed version by Walt Disney pictures in 2005 wage. And then though it was made before Studio Ghibli was founded it's considered a Ghibli work and was released as part of the Studio Ghibli Collection DVD. The film is received critical Acclaim. Okay, so long is it a Ghibli film or what? I'm confused. Okay it is it is so it's made by the guys who originally who founded the studio. This is so like this is before they actually had them studio and they are written and like when the director of the film went to pitch it to a movie studio. He couldn't pitch it because the movie studios like we can't produce any or we will not produce any movies unless there is a manga Italian because Japan it's a lot smarter to already have but it's already smarter to have like that fanbase ready, which is why a lot of manga get sat adapted cuz wage Because there's a fan base there already. So instead of making the movie first he went ahead and he created an entire like I think it was like a three or four issue manga where he has an entire story laid out and he pitched it back to them because it got super popular back when it first came out and then he was like, well you make my movie now and they're like, yes, here's your money. Wow, that's really cool. Yeah, it was an it was an intense. It was intense back then and like once once that came out and they made their money off of it. They were able to build their studio and then they started birth thing. I want to ask you guys and then one thing one thing I want to ask you guys and then one thing I want to ask you specifically Kyo, I really felt like a Metroid vibe from the full movie. I don't what do you guys think Honda Metroid Medford combined with like Fallout? I'd say is kind of post-apocalyptic desert Lee. Yeah. Yep. Enter but with a lot of sci-fi elements something and that that's also another reason why I loved it. I loved her birthday. Yeah Herbert Herbert wasn't it wasn't a bird. It was a little like a dead bird. Whatever. It was. Very wide like a little flying squirrel. Yeah, I think because it like soared through the yeah, cuz it cuz it always basically yeah. It was amazing how long I was great. And the other thing I want to ask ukiyo is you really clearly explained that whole novel thing? I I no idea is there other stuff, you know about Ghibli movies that are kind of like fun facts like that like trivial details like that or a cool cuz I feel like you're very, you know, this this franchise. Well, you know this studio well, so I'm just I'm just curious if there's other tidbits you want to share. I feel I feel bad cuz I haven't I haven't seen all these movies and like I'm a huge fan of things that I have seen and like I really want to see and I so tracing back to like what we said earlier Austin for my birthday got me a DVD copy of dead. A complete Ghibli. Hello. It's awesome on the whole was the sweetest and nicest thing Austin has gotten for me from one other gift. Yeah actually, but he didn't realize that when he was buying it. It's a bootleg copy. So the so the so the movies on the discs are in a sewer like are like 360p like space sixty quality on them and like so like we so like we tried what so we watched Christmas Princess Mononoke and Porco Rosso on this and the quality was so awful like and then luckily I had bought the nausicaa Blu-ray and we went back and watched that and we're like, I cannot go back we can't go back to this bootleg and I've made fun of him for it. But I always have to preface that I am super thankful for the fact that you got this for me dead. I just want to say check your links. Next time. I got it off Amazon. I thought it was. Oh you got on Amazon. Yeah, that's why I thought it was it was the real deal someone in China is doing is celebrating wage. You let the only the only the only gives I can think of that I got that are nicer than that are the bundle. I got you for the complete collection of gravity falls in the number three Journal. Oh, yeah, that's and and the complete collection of Invaders them. Those were those are still some of my favorite gifts and I still use them off but the fucking Ghibli want okay, I have her so disappointed with us since I'm on a I'm on a rant about gifts for Kyo. There was only one failure in my mind that's bigger than this month. And that's when I bought you ask versus the evil dead the series before we watched the actual movies. I was so goddamn upset. I'm still really upset about birth. We watched the movies now, we can watch the show no matter what but so upset that I did that Austin has sort of a good and bad history. I know that Austin knows me enough that he knows exactly what to get me. So I never worried about it. I am however worried that he'll get so close that he'll somehow overshoot. Damn. I'm sorry. I got off of the question you like. I'm sorry. Yeah like me about the different Ghibli movies that you know about our stuff like that. I cannot get that I got, you know, don't worry. I'll drop off as we go along with the movies like so I guess like since we were talking about Parker Road, so I may as well drop this Miyazaki is a really big fan of Prides the the director of a movie so I should also let me know that the reason that ties in is because the studio is named after a specific airplane called a Ghibli and it was a really early World War Dog. To type of it was a really early prop plane like a World War Two it may or may not have been the kind that Porco Rosso was flying. I don't think it actually was but it was just a low interesting connection is down in such a big fan of planes cuz he did both Porco Rosso and then he also did when The Wind Rises that's really cool. I actually wondered about the planes in poker. Oh, so I I felt like those were like regular planes like you would see them in real life. But then like the plane. Yeah. Those are real plane once and nausicaa like I wish those were real life planes. I'm sorry, you know what I mean off the universe is very so much throughout all these different. I mean noska nascus just strictly side with poker poker poker rosis biggest fantasy thing was the main character was a month. Now that was probably about the news about it. But nausicaa worth like the fucking armies of bugs. So creepy doll or or the fucking take off. We're like in the beginning where I think her dad her father gets gunned down right with hurt like that. Just whole opening sequence. I'm just like I feel so bad for this character and I love her off of Barrett and I want to see you succeed because she doesn't want to fight she wants to resolve everything peacefully and I think she barely even raises a fist in the entire movie. Well, I mean aside from that scene where she like or like tries to start like fighting the guards that came in and killed her dad. Yeah. I mean anyone would do that like anyone would even if the most heaviest to pacify if you see a loved one gunned down in front of you you are going to lose your shit's yeah likely but aside from that she tries to resolve everything else peacefully between the warring countries wage and the invading bugs cheap fucking the the entire sequence at night when she's like at that Outpost. Yeah trying to figure out a way to peacefully resolve this even with the wage. Gave of bugs just like going right towards her City and she just finds it like it's like I help me if I'm wrong but doesn't everything actually get peacefully was off without any really Bloodshed going on or is there actually the battle like the there's no real battle. I mean like the there are some action scenes where they're like, there's the scene in the Airship crash or one of them has a gun but like the guys that are from asuka's Village somehow managed to get it so that she doesn't have to shoot that. She doesn't shoot anybody or shooting idiot any creatures after the fact the Airship crash pretty much everyone like in in accordance to her and in respect to her lays down their arms. Yeah almost and whenever they come across like they know how to defend themselves, but in respect to her and what she is trying to accomplish they lay down and just all right, you know what fine we don't have to do this, right and they don't do it and there's no like wage. Out in the back or anything like that. It's actually peacefully resolve. I did like the two characters from whatever that Empire was or whatever the two that were always bickering with each other like teasing about either schedule each other. And what did you guys actually think I just thought that was what do you guys think about the actual universe and like how bugs and the the forest and everything and like the the just the life and trying to save the humor out of this? Like I just I really love the setting of this and white real like really loved it like guys, like I said in the beginning in asuka's talk it really does feel like a combination of like you pointed out MET for it as well as Fallout so that kind of like mythology and atmosphere especially for this kind of thing. I think really can't take off now. I do love the universe and its own separate continuity if it was my universe and we lived in a desert and it was in ancient civilizations just a desert. I know but that that's just what my job Immediately gosu to start with so it's just a little off-putting of like I don't want to live in the desert but the atmosphere of it the the caverns the forest the desert is so beautiful that I can't help and love no definitely definitely so I don't know if you guys notice but like if you look at the way that like all the vehicles vehicles are designed they all they're all like compare them to our own actual designed vehicles and whatnot. All of our planes are relatively bird-shaped whereas there's and that movie our bug shaped like they all look kind of like everything is very buggy. Like it's if you you know what, I mean like, yeah, give me a dragon fire Friday. Yeah, like the the whole idea of behind like the birth of the vehicle design was that like the people who invented these vehicles like in terms of the art Department was that all the that like all the vehicles are dead. Based on like bugs that exist in that Universe because bugs are the dominant creatures. Yeah, and and they show they're they're easily the most threatening presence in the entire movie. There's a crash or I think the game Metal Slug uses the design of the giant monsters or the giant insects as like enemies and the video game. I'm going to look this up to me and I might be I might be wrong about which game uses it but I'm pretty sure it's the game Metal Slug could be I I haven't heard of that game in a little bit about Princess Mononoke though because that one I just want to put this out that this one that was the first one I saw of Ghibli, but I actually want to preface this was saying I did I watched Princess Mononoke with my roommate like last year and she was like you haven't seen Ghibli before and that's like how I kind of got introduced to it and everything, but I just want to put a side thing here saying that whatever he watched Spirited Away. I actually watched Spirited Away. I can chew thousand and one when I was still living in France and I remembered watching the movie when I was almost at the end of what he Spirited Away. I was like, this is the film. I signed Cinema when I was in France and it just like America like page with like my twenties. It was such a weird like like realization in the moment. I was watching that film and that's why I like I really enjoyed it. But Princess Mononoke really got me into like Ghibli as a studio and as I am a movie collection and like what made me want to do this specific episode such a cool such a cool movie like Adventure and the creatures and the difficulties of life does go through in that Princess. Mononoke is so great. Whatever you guys think about Princess Mononoke. I loved it. Honestly the the kind of Civil War feel of the essentially the one Savage Mountain. Okay, quote unquote versus the basically the people who are tearing down the entire Forest to saturate their own self. And even when we meet the we can clearly see like both points off. Of you from them and okay wanting to protect her home the village and the village wanting to like do what's right as people hell even even even when I main character like is first in the East Village he sides with them really and just like accepts life in the village seeing guess along with everyone in the village seeing how they all work together. Then when they he goes back out into the forest and find someone okay that all gets turned on his head, especially when like the guardian of the forest shows up dear God that fucking beer but with both sides it's kind of up to the viewer to decide like who's right and who's wrong even if the movie definitely destroys the Village movie pretty heavily leans towards nature being right? I mean, yeah cuz you can't stop nature and it's dead wrong, but I'm I'm just going to say it as scary as that deer is he is nowhere near as bad. I actually you guys brought you guys bought something that actually is really interests me home. The whole thing was like nature and like humans. I feel like it's this big thing of like the humans wanting to like take out like the the nature and in the process of War but then nature wine can be reserved. I really felt like there's a parallel with that and and pom poko or like the raccoons want to preserve the nature lie, like throughout all these movies. I'm just realizing the more we're talking about like theme late like youth nature versus Humans Adventure romance, like these are very generic themes. Yes throwing like connect a lot between all these movies. I wonder and maybe this is Faith because you're more story-driven Kyo. This is something you can answer is this intentional when they write these back-to-back-to-back like they're all made in like different a different time. You know on some of these are from the 80s 90s or 2000s. Um, do you think it's intentional when they do all these like crossover themes that just happen to connect with another one like okay. They're all its absolute. It's absolutely intentional that Miyazaki is trying is like he's dead. A heavy or he's very he's very anti industrialization. He's kind of like he's kind of like the JRR Tolkien of the Modern Age. Like he's very opposed to like industrialization like taking over nature and whatnot. Cuz he he feels pretty strongly about that because like not only like not only that but he's also he's also got some very strong opinions on on the war because there's a lot of there's a lot of like War subtext and most of his movies because like I'm pretty sure he was born or I just looked it up. He was born in nineteen fifty-one, which is 2 years before I believe it's two years before World War Two and you'd be like three like maybe three by that point or know if you'd be two years old, but he he strongly opposes just war in general and he's a very pacifist type of person from what I understand. So that relates to the theme of nature preserve a dog. And I'm just trying to understand what how that connects to like the fact that they're different themes that interconnect between different movies like the fact that he is like that like how what does how does that influence the fact that these themes in effect in between the movies? I mean nature connection can happen with Oh, you mean like between yes film. That's what I was saying. Yeah. Okay. I don't I don't think that they're all supposed to I don't think the movies are supposed to be connected in that sense, but they are all supposed to or a lot of them do have this underlying tone nature vs industrialization. He's very like he personally as opposed to like heavy industrialization like he obviously understands that that we need to industrialize a little bit in order to survive but he's also very sick. He's very Pro nature like one of the things that his studio is his Studio has an Open Garden area where the animators can go and just spend some time and kind of an outdoor setting off. These blossoming trees and flowers and just a lot of like, he's a very he's a very nature driven person, right the what I was going to say after that. Also, is that like with this this whole nature and inhuman theme that is throughout the the the many of the movies. I feel like it's very much a month set up for like what the characters are going to be like how they're going to struggle with their enemies and are they going to collaborate and fight like in pom poko? I feel like there's a lot of that page the raccoons screwing with the humans because the humans are screwing with the nature and then and nausicaa, right the war that makes it so that that force is going to get burnt down. We don't really have a choice. You know, I really feel like it's a it's a it's a theme that kind of sets up the story line or like the big parts of the storyline. I don't know what you guys think about that. I think of it as like he's just her life. It's a message that he thinks is not sure that he believes is not going to grow old but he knows how to weave it into his stories so that it's natural and it's not preachy he's not that I not that heavy at the side of the road holding a sign that says save the trees. He's basically in or Germany or in The Lorax where it's completely dead but critical but what stress is in the main office in the original or yeah, exactly the the Opera he's the exact opposite of that person holding up the sign that says off the trees he is saying save the trees but he's going about it in in basically showing people why they said should save trees because trees are important to us and we need them to reproduce oxygen and that's he's a little bit more like a it's a little bit more like a teacher than a protester. He is actually a lot of dead. Movies in Ghibli that nature can come and fuck you over for like the movie show reverence for nature and I like and I like how it's not like FernGully where it's like like it's really in your face. Yeah, they're not like that and it's what and it's why they part of why they speak to such a wide audience of people. Yeah, I when we talk about like all these themes being a very prevalent and present throughout many of the Ghibli movies. I feel like another theme that is very prevalent and almost like what makes up every single Ghibli movie is Magic jump. In fact that there is like magical things that happen or magical characters or magical powers, like the fantasy is woven and many of the plots and for example, one of the movies that I saw I also use sauce hot shot yet. It was called the cat returns without really spoiling anything here. I felt like this one was gone. Like it's a good movie. But when you've seen many other Gilliam movies, yep. Like it's just another one of those like characters gets thrust into this magical world and Magic happens, you know, like I didn't feel like from that specific movie that there was a big impact like a spirited away or like a Ponyo like those movies like had a big much bigger impact in my opinion. I don't know about you but like I feel like these themes are so prevalent and and all these movies that it makes it kind of hard for some of the less Heavy Hitters to be as impactful if you see what I mean. Yeah. I mean the cat returns is definitely one that I've heard of before I started watching Ghibli movies and basically the the one who's who's wife's Ghibli movies that I've come across does know it and does love it and tries to push it down my throat to watch it. But yeah, I I just haven't watched it. I know the image of the cat in the top hat and his Cane played by Cary Elwes the smooth motherfuker from Princess Bride Westley did not know that he played he plays the English version of the catalog. Is did not know that did you know that he would and that's about all I knew kind of smooth cat. I could I can tell by looking at him but he could be a small motherfuker. But but really all I had was his parents. I had nothing else to go off of everyone else just told me it's so good. Watch it here cable flying. It's just good. Here's the here's the thing about the cat returns. It kind of requires a little bit of context cuz it's it's kind of a weird Inception kind of movie because the the movie comes from one of the other films in this Library. I can't remember which one it is. I know it's either Whispers The Mart or you know, but it's it's essentially the story that one of the characters is writing and wage really bees and the movie. Yeah, like if you look into its I can't remember which one it is because it's the movie where it's these two kids. Who are growing up together and they kind of don't can't stand each other but finding out that they have a lot in common and a lot different about each other is kind of how the movie gross develops itself. That sounds like how the sisters that have to live. I don't I don't either I don't see the connection. Neither. Do I thought I heard two girls living together or two kids too. I heard two kids growing up together and I thought okay, I see I see your point there but it's a bad one, I wanted to go back. I want to go back to just the fact that like you you agree or not agree with me when I'm saying that this whole Magic is so a part of this universe that when you watch the cat Returns versus other Ghibli movie. I honestly feel like it's just another random character gets dropped into magical land and has to like the ones on an adventure like that's how it felt to me because that's what Ghibli movies are. You know, it kind of felt like they kind of job. Up now copy paste it but they took a the main theme from other movies. So it didn't make it as special for me personally. So cat returns is probably one of the Lesser ones because it's not a it doesn't change the same Flair that the the other Miyazaki movies have cuz like there it's more so focused on just telling like an adventure story as opposed to like say like say as opposed to Totoro wage is a very slice-of-life feel with a little bit of magic sprinkled in and that kind of pushes forward or or I guess in a way it's pretty cat returns is similar to spirited away but there's less urgency in the cat returns. Like there's no there's no real stakes in cat returns. It's kind of just like this girl gets thrusted into this world. And then the goal is to just kind of leave it's kind of an Alice in Wonderland sort of thing, but it's not as there's no like I said, there's no real Stakes to it. It's more of one of those just like it's kind of one of those mindless Ghibli movies, which is not what you kind of want from Ghibli they cut off. If they're a little more smart than that, I feel but it's not a terrible movie. I think it's entertaining enough and the last movie I wanted to really get into before we get into other information here specifically is from up on the Poppy Hill. I saw that one I liked it personally. I just felt it was cool to not want have a movie that's was as dripped into magic and juice have like it's basically without spoiling. Of course. It's about these students that build a boat house and it's just it's centered around this very community-driven thing and these students worked work together and finally maybe like The Boathouse said there's a might not be there after all so they they they fight back and stuff. So it's just one big movie where the come together and work to a common goal. I think it's cool. But I personally like that one was another one of those lesser ones in my opinion. What do you think? It's it's it's still a Poppy Hill is a okay. So that tells me that Whispers of the heart was the one that I the cat returns is dead. So based from because we're supposed to the hardest probably closer to the one that I've already anyway poppy poppy Hill is Bobby Hill is more of like a a teen drama kind of yeah, there's and I don't think there's anything I don't think there's anything wrong with that especially cuz it's a Ghibli movie and it's a really good Ghibli movie. But as honestly like there since there's no real like magic element to it. It's a little interchangeable or doll like some other regular anime movie that could just be it could be like your name, but like without the magic I wanted another like I'm not I'm I don't hate it. I've seen a majority of the movie, but I haven't but I like didn't get to finish the whole thing. And I do know more about the movie without having seen it somehow like I know I know too much trivia about these movies that I haven't seen. All right. Well since we're nearing the end and you any any trivia, this is a go ahead with your trivia with other stuff you want to marriage. Not these movies cuz I'm curious. I love trivia. I love tricky. Well, one of the or something that I completely forgot about was like when we were talking about nausicaa, I forgot to mention the scene with the Young the Giant Robot the secret weapon like towards the end of the movie that was animated by a first-time earlier like this is that yeah, it was animated by a guy that was really new to animation. Like he was a student like fresh out of school and like he didn't have a lot of experience but when they did the pencil test for it, the director was life. He's in he asked to work on this movie He's Got the Right Touch. Yeah. I think he's been in I think that particular animator has been on most of these movies. I wonder like staff wise like today. The same musicians the same animators like a Studio Ghibli, I think so, I'm pretty sure I think the I think the one exception is grave of the dog. Are flies cuz I think is like grammar the fireflies on Totoro. We're made around the exact same time. So like they were I think they were working on two different movies and then they released the films as a matinee or like a pair a package deal. And as I recall, they they're animators and like there they didn't have like a full staff when they put that movie together. So like they they ended up like creating a course. I'm like, this is what we want to do with with the studio. This is the way that we do things around here and they started hiring like permanent staff. So like wage right now, they still have like permanent people who are still doing still doing these films. I mean, I'm looking over over here like on the on the Wiki page maybe, you know any of these but the notable tomatoes and character designers from Studio Ghibli. You got Masashi Ando. Makiko futaki tatsuya. Condo Kitaro Casa de do any of these sound familiar to you song. I'm guess. I'm very I'm very bad with like actual like Japanese or like people I've I I know very few. I just know a couple like Miyazaki is one of them. I think who was that other one who I was thinking of mom row, row soda was one of the animators who worked on the Digimon movie and then later maybe Summer Wars like his own film, right? Those are those are two of the ones that I remember the most like, I don't know. I don't know names like I don't know names in Japan that well in terms of their industry. I know are in the American industry a lot better not fair enough fair enough. I was going to quiz you on Andrews. If you don't know that we don't know them. I don't I can't do it. I can't do I can't tell you I can't do I can't do the I can't do the game show on the Japanese animal man. I'm sorry man. That's a that's a whole I'm at and that would be a fair wage. Animator Think Tank, and then I was looking over also over here. They actually have an upcoming Ghibli movie this year. Did you guys know that there's a Ghibli movie coming out in December. I didn't know that Lee I heard a twig and the which it looks earwig and the which are way you can yeah, your wig computer animated the DuckTales theme song Keke computer game. Yeah computer animated film. Yeah, huh. That's that's kind of funny. Cuz the that Lupin movie is coming out in Japan pretty soon. I don't know if it's out yet or not, but I'm curious know and am currently how do you live is another one that's upcoming. They have almost like I think over twenty easily movies like this. It's so crazy. I mean how many Ghibli movies they've done and it took a big break like the last one they did before I talked to was in 2014 with when Marnie was there. So yeah, that was that was one of the last ones are actually I think I don't know if they actually took a break there cuz they may have been working on Austin. What's that video game? And that has the The Studio Ghibli artwork. Oh God has a very long Japanese title. It's one that I just discovered like just got it like a week ago or something like that, but I can't think of the name of it. They may have been working on that video games too, though. There's two of them. Yep, Oh, I thought there was one there's two behave been working on the video game heard that video game that they're in at that time. Like you would have to bring it up. Can't remember the name. But like on that note since you're talking about like they're relatively short list of movies the director Hayao Miyazaki is gone into retirement. Like V really keeps saying that that he like dude he was saying that this is my last movie back on like I think it I think he said it was my last movie around moanin. Okay, it sucks how and then he's he keeps coming back with a new one like he went right? Actually. He said he went into retirement before he came up with the idea for Spirited Away and then he came back and made that like, I'm convinced that job. Is going to like die and then come back and be like Jinx. I'm in another movie guys, like nothing's gonna make this guy stopped you. Do you mind if we take a quick 5-minute break so guys but I think five minutes and I'm going to come back right after right after that. So enjoy will be back right now for you guys, but we're just taking five minutes just so you know. So we're back from the break first break into anime podcast history and not I want to know for you guys your favorite movies stand else that you really really enjoy out of all the Ghibli franchise. I'll I'll go ahead and start us off like at like I said when we were talking about it and how I said, nosco was my favorite Ghibli movie second one being Kiki's Delivery Service and third being uh, can't remember what I said at the time. But with not skipping my first favorite I probably wouldn't go as back to it as often as I would say Porco Rosso. So I'm going to say pork roast the one I'm going to recommend to a lot of people to watch because it's honestly just an all-around good time if you like aerial dogfights, uh kind of cocky Cena or just kind of fuzzy main character. We'd which pork roasts himself is and I love him for it and an adorable supporting character and Theo honestly, I can't really ask him a lot more than that again. Not nostalgic is probably my favorite one, but it has it takes a lot to understand in that world and get into the Mythos and everything pressure. Oh, so does it really require all of that? You just get the idea. It's like a it's a pig flying a plane shooting people down. Yeah. That's what you need. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. That's the one I'm going to page. That's the one that stands out to me. Roughly the most aside from ones that haven't been that have already been talked to death about like Kiki's Delivery Service in Spirited Away cuz carried away. Brilliant black. Yeah for me, it's Ponyo. Ponyo really stands out to me. Like I just love how cute how gorgeous how childish and like it's just no there's not a single bad vibe in that movie, you know, I mean, even the villain is villain the guy from the C is likeable to me because he has a good purpose that like makes sense. You know, there's literally not a bad thing about that movie like not a mean-spirited thing. It's all good-natured. It just sits so feel good and I watched it when it was raining and it was like just the perfect Vibe and I just really clicked with me when I watched it. I love I really loved it. I just Ponyo for sure on there's a really cute one. I'm going to I'm going to be an asshole and say if you've seen a Little Mermaid you've pretty much seen wage. You seen Finding Nemo. You've seen Ponyo if you've seen Finding Nemo and and a little a little mermaid. It's just Little Mermaid Little Mermaid song Little Mermaid when they're six. Yeah, you're up with this. Yeah, it's when they're six basically when they're six and more anime and the 4th girl and the fourth biggest grossing anime couple of times. But this is all day. There's you know, a little detail, whatever no big deal. Yeah. Okay, I guess if I had to yeah, I guess if I had to pin down my personal favorites, I weirdly like personally for me, I would say number three would be uh, My Neighbor Totoro like one. I've got memories of it. I'm a huge fan of Totoro himself. I've actually got a plush and a tiny little figure that sits on my desk Federal just sits there terrorist sits there and watches me while I'm animating. So maybe that's why. Cuz she's at every month. I might just put them on top of Austin's cooler like right next to his like scantily cleaning. Yeah, I have the SE figures in my room watching over me. I am the yeah, I'm the creepy one who has cute stuff in my life. I'm apparently yeah. I'm the normal horny ass man. And this is now upon suggest. No, I'm keeping it PG. It's fine. We're not getting nearly as much as we get on balancing test. No fair enough. All right. Yeah. Yeah, I guess but I guess my favorite one. I'm going to have to say probably that's probably not because my number one and a close second would be Kiki. Really? Yeah. I was going to say okay. I really love Mononoke but like as much as I love that like I have such a I have such a bad taste for post-apocalyptic stuff. Like I'm making a cartoon about post-apocalypse stuff like in in private. Sorry. It's not private anymore, but it's or like that's my passion birth. Project and like any movie any movie that like takes place in a post-apocalypse and does something different like every post Apocalypse movie is different somehow off and modem. Sorry. Goddamnit Motors nausicaa. Sorry nausicaa is different in the sense that like it's not so much about how crazy and how different that world is it's about how it's very much about nature should be respected and preserved while also saying well also saying there's a way for everyone to Coexist on this world and I find that much more refreshing than like say Mad Max is just like every we we all need water let's all band together. I don't know. I haven't seen that movie in a while. But like I like I like the I like the message of nausicaa. I love the designs and it's in honestly, that's just why it's one of my favorites favorite Ghibli movies. I also want to highlight the fight. I just came across. Apparently there's a Studio Ghibli Fest that happens every year. It's been happening since 2017 and they just rebroadcast movies and in the 29th and 2019. They had a little Studio Ghibli fifteen nineteen and they showed house Moving Castle which was the 15th anniversary 15 year anniversary. Nausicaa 35 year anniversary and Kiki's Delivery Service 30 year anniversary. That's crazy. Yeah, he's an older one. How old are these movies movie. Apparently from the eighties and nineties Rose. I thought they were like early 2000s like I keep getting about the the years that were made in damp. Anya was like 2008 knowing so much about these movies. I don't remember their fucking release dates. Yeah, you know, we're thinking behind the scenes except when behind the scenes head home exactly the most important part I'd say, I mean it is what it is. Okay. So before we wrap things up, let's any any final trivia Hunt Hot Shot off. Or a hard drive yesterday Austin don't know shit. Oh like the movies. That's it. Trivia. I like movies. What about in Algiers que before we wrap things off your good. I feel like it's past the I think it's past the point of like doing trivia. I think it's about time we wrapped up. All right. What's the most recent Studio Ghibli movie I Marty Wind Rises is the earliest one. I can think of Marnie. I don't know. That was a 2014 one point. All right, what's nice question was I already getting Showtime was my least. When was the show? When was the showtimes for My Neighbor Totoro in two thousand six? $9,000 down it? Okay. Okay. Let's give our let's give our final thoughts here. I really am happy. I found this. I feel like if anime was a pool. I feel like it just got to the deep end home. You know I'm saying I got to the good stuff. I got to like the professional level. I got to enjoy the best pieces of animated. There are out there by watching these movies Studio people now before any of us were born basically honestly, but now I I was born the same year as a pom poko I think was the same year. I was oh God. Yeah ninety-four and but you know just to save I just realized these movies are so amazing. It's so beautiful and so gorgeous and and they have these amazing themes these characters and every film even though has very similar themes is portrayed so different jobs, so they all can stand apart and we can talk about them in the same podcast. I feel like we have multiple different conversations throughout the episode which is what I like about this and why I wanted to do a full Ghibli off anime podcast episode. I just these movies are so worth seeing and I'm not done seeing all of them yet. Like the the way we came about doing this episode. I'm not sure I said this at the beginning is I started watching anime. Your films on Netflix and then I found one Ghibli with here and another Ghibli there and it was like you wish we should do a full episode on these and I'm really happy we did because we can really see how deep these goals and how they are enjoyable and we barely had any criticisms of them. Like that's that's the thing to like. We're we're pretty critical like if I don't like something I will not like something and I will say something like the anime Frankenstein movie and my episode 87 check it out. But just to say I remember that one. My name's just because of how much it hate it. Oh, I just really happy. I found this corner of the anime stone that we are all you know what I mean? Like I'm just happy this section of animes like being explored more and more and I can't wait to watch more of these films and maybe get full podcast on some Ghibli movies cuz we're getting we have we're definitely going to go over a lot of these at some point. Yes, like I feel like I feel like some of these we may have to reschedule. Watch before we start a podcast on the like there's a lot there's a lot to unpack with each one of these movies. I'm probably fill my brain. I'll probably feel my brain up with the trivia that I forgot about Le Coq one that came out. Yeah probably so that one was good on solid give you that one shade has been thrown off. All right the final thoughts. Were you guys go ahead and hot chocolate with whoever wants to go first. I even after all these years. I still haven't watched all the Ghibli movies as has been apparent by this list like well, you guys brought up a cat returned or pom poko or like any any from like that? Obviously, I haven't watched them all but I still do have like tend to I do love the Ghibli movies. Like I said noska and poker. Oh so geeky Spirited Away. I do love what I've seen - Totoro and probably a few of birth. Let me clarify everybody. He meets Totoro himself. He likes the movie. I liked the movie find Totoro jump off actually, but you watch what you say about my mother funk you Toto quick question cutter of jump off a cliff wage progression up for Auto Group here with back in the B series what Christian Mark Toro the character or the bugs from nausicaa the army of bone Tundra. He's in your ear. You're bothered by the bug. I feel like they were they are more bothersome than Torah. They were like almost cybernetic. No. No, they were they were real bugs. Yeah. Oh those no, okay. I don't know what I was thinking. Yeah. No still Totoro. Oh, okay, whatever freaky to me. I don't know why he just says, I think it's just like the the fact that like his proportions are so that his mouth is bigger. Like I don't care about before since I'll watch Attack on Titan all that but talking about portion of the mouse because it's big enough to put May in there and she'll never come out again. I'll watch the attack on Titan and all of that but just told her out himself freaks me the touch up all day long. Never watched season two or three or four ever. But yeah, I'll watch season one on repeat actually exactly a skill. I do that with a lot of shows Austin are playing through the game and say that he watched. Yes. I am basically have yes, I do but I I heavily enjoy what I've seen Ghibli and hearing that there's still going and working a new Ghibli movies coming up in the future. I can't wait to see where they go from there fair enough are enough and for yourself Q. I literally love all these movies like even if even if I have like ones that I would rank lower than each other like there are some that are better than others. I mean, but ultimately like these are animation masterpieces, like if you just like look at them in terms of like their technology their Technologies, unbelievably impressive and they took some of them look better than movies we have today. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely like over overall. They're very they're very, what's the word I'm looking for. I'm looking for static wage. Yeah, sorry. No, that's not the word but they're very they're very deep. They're not they're very deep their detailed there. There's a lot to them I think is probably the best way I can describe. Let me ask you this quickly before you wrap up. How do you feel about the next movie coming out being computer animated versus drawing? I guess more like how do you feel about it's yeah. I'm a little surprised we but I'm starting to do a lot more three D animation like I I mean, it's it's against what really good it's against tradition as far as completely goes, but at the same time you kind of have to evolve say relevant. Well, here's the thing the like not off the movies are completely hand-drawn. Some of them have computer animation. Yeah and because Ohio Miyazaki is friends with John Lasseter. John Lasseter is the founder of pictures or one of them and he introduced Miyazaki to computer animation and I can't remember which movie oh wait. That's right. Mononoke has some c g in it dead. Weirdly like that's the most nature Driven movie where like I think the so like he used CGI for like handing in shots to make the the ground look really dead organic and still like keep in shape. And I think he used it on. I think he used a nun like the the corrupted creature that is going through the movie. I think I think that's where it was. But yeah, I'm not I'm not completely against it like I'm open to see more like CGI animated Japanese movies. It's really strange because like that's not something that we usually think of Japan doing that's more life as more of an American Trend because like Toy Story and Shrek sort of set that ball rolling and we can't seem to get away from it. And I think it's dying down and I want to see more we might be switching over. So like Japan might start doing CGI almost exclusively and then we'll switch over the hand-drawn. Well, then that's the way it is. That's the way it is, but I feel like I'm just make I'm George. Making a joke. I don't I really hope it's going to go that way because twenty twenties a horrible year it is. Yeah. No. Yeah, but like, okay, I think that that concludes it for for me or everyone also I'm going to say guys. I don't know how but we hit four hundred legs. We hit $400 on the page in the middle of the podcast. I'm not making this up. We're at 402 off. We're 102. We have four hundred two legs on the Facebook page in the middle of recording this project. Yeah. Yeah, how many of them are Bots how how much thought about four hundred of them is how many of them are going to ask we have to like some one of those me, we have merge 387 if they if they're all going to buy. I'll say we definitely do just give us a set. We'll set up a shop eventually. 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How a Former Model is Taking A Stand Against Bullying

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30:06 min | 1 year ago

How a Former Model is Taking A Stand Against Bullying

"Welcome to the Zandbergen report where wealth strategies and investment wisdom collide featuring your distinguished host and certified financial planner Bart zandbergen welcome to the Zandbergen report showcase for well strategies and investment wisdom as essential for revolving world. I'm your host part Sambergen in studios. Usually we have our engineer Paul. So what did you think of that last C._B._S.. Reporter where the where they write about the side effects of we do one good thing and for more bad things come up with here pauline very very tight protein shakes day I do. I have to all right another thing. That's bad news or something here so I was just telling I I think I'm gonNA quit protein and start smoking. That's the only answer that said I'm so so thrilled to have my next guest in studio today. Shoddy Porco chef who is the founder of Ability Awareness Project Laguna Beach nonprofit that provides provides anti bullying education prevention education shoddy welcome to the show. Thank you for having me of course I can't wait to get into this but what's <hes> Paul you may or may not notice. I don't think we've spoken about this but what's really near and dear to my heart about this and so much so that I'm going to be working with shoddy and in September we're GONNA do kind of my first sponsor charity event around this is that bullying has become such such a big end drastic and tragic thing in our society and you know some people who would think of that may never ever have you would never think in a million years as I have been bullied <hes> and I'm one and most people have a hard time understanding that are thinking that but <hes> and so I'm I'm so happy A._P.. To be part of this and building awareness and more than anything helping to build prevention we feel so lucky so happy to work with you but you have such a great <hes> Bile that I'm just actually going to read it. I don't leave anything out and so in addition to the <hes> <hes> <hes> ability awareness project <hes> you help with kindness programs for children parents and educators at schools and also for seniors at senior centers ability awareness project was the twenty eighteen recipient of the Best Education Education Center in best of Laguna Beach as well as the two thousand eighteen one oh see champion of change makers and won first place at the Patriots Day parade with the song that you composed which we need to hear about a conversation between a child all being bullied and her consoling mother. I'm sure it's a beautiful song. Shoddy is also an official founding member of the world kindness U._S._A.. And the goodwill ambassador of world kindness for the city of Laguna Beach a partner with the charter for compassion collaborator collaborator with the kitten the kindness evolution Arr- activist. You'RE GONNA have to give us a definition with I know where it comes from with with the random acts of kindness one of the third one of the thirty nations kindness kindness mindedness leaders and voted the best activist of Laguna beach her programs focus on teaching non judgement empathy friendship compassion tolerance and inclusion through thoughts words and acts of kindness Toledo our generation towards greater social interconnection long humanistic path shoddy is mother of a son who's at junior high and high school at additionally. She is a film composer or as a film composer. She has composed music for six feature films too short films five title Theme Songs and dozens of Work Works of Children's Music Meditation T._v. shows movie trailers commercials. She's currently working on a musical about king. David and finally shoddy is a private piano teacher enjoys yoga swimming beach walks art walks and near to my heart July Saudi welcome to the show for having me thank you of course of course I think a great opening question is just what inspired you you too to get involved in the start this organization yes <hes> my son was diagnosed with autism at the age of four and after getting a whole bunch of help for him to overcome his challenges he did he was able to mainstream <hes> in third grade however the other kids were not as kind and they called him. You Retard you don't belong here a lot of pushing and shoving and willing was going on and I was trying to find find a way to help him and I realized this is an epidemic in our culture that I need to address <hes> I became the C. A. C. which is a Community Advisory Committee <hes> board member of with the CAPISTRANO. On the Unified School district and they had these programs and we still do that that teach tolerance and understanding compassion towards kids with special needs any kid that has maybe dyslexia autism sensory issues <hes> a._D._d.. A._D._H._D. and although these programs are wonderful they don't address bullying <hes> head on directly and we see the kids that you know they go through mazes Jesus blindfolded and they say oh it's so difficult to be blind and go throughout the day what then they see the blanket at school and they go pull his hair and run away and laugh. You know they don't put the two together. There are some kids that do but not general not the majority not the majority and there's so much that we need to talk about and to teach our kids tolerance and understanding and unity and friendship on fortunately these are being lost right now with the cell phones and the cell fees. It's all about me and friendship is completely being lost so that's basically what we teach. That's why we teach what we teach <hes> because I think it's an epidemic and it's getting out of control and we all need need to make sure that children understand that every individual has something to contribute to our collective humanity and have respect and <hes> compassion empathy kindness those are so important for sure and I'm an imagine that <hes> do you see a difference in the age bans. I mean I I mean from what I remember. Boeing starts pretty young and can go through elementary school junior high high school. I mean I think there's different degrees and maybe more harsh more sophisticated at some point especially now with with technology I think the bullying it's it's beyond physical emotionally and intellectually Boeing think about that so they're six types of bullying being and the verbal harassment willing is the general is one that happens at every age in from kindergarteners. Even you could see that happening all the way to high school college and adulthood <hes> cyber bullying starts. It gets worse around third grade now because the second graders are on social media. That's which is a shocker to me that last presentations that I've been around I always ask his how many of you are have cell phones and social media second graders first graders. There's eighty percent. Oh yes we have our own cell phone and cyber bullying is happening about one out of every three children get cyberbullying <hes> verbal bullying verbal verbal harassment of course it's number one but physical bullying starts around fourth fifth grade it escalates in middle school and gets a little bit calmer during high school but high school something something else that happens is the social alienation kicks in and kids are basically left out of these groups and cliques in the if you are not one of them you're just left out alone and that's a form of bullying to uh-huh social isolation says well. Do you want to cover the other Mizra two left. There is cyberbullying. There is a physical bullying. There's indirect bullying which is saying gossip and exaggerated stories about someone one. There is social alienation we talked about there's another one that is called intimidation bullying. You could definitely do that to score so say I'm bigger than you. I'm better than you and you do as I say and a lot of kids do take advantage of their big physique or you know they just feel that they're better than other kids and put pressure on them do what they want him to do. And that's probably more in the in the older classes I I would think right. The intimidation or start young starts young as well. I had parents reach out to me <hes>. I won't say the name of the school but her kid was a third grader and he was crying every day to his mom Tom that this kid comes to me and say you do what I told you to do and he doesn't remember what it is that he told them to do. He said he never told me anything. He's just every day comes to me and says you do as I said and he's just fearful earful. This kid was just fearful to go to school. Unfortunately that was not a good situation because the principal was also a bully. He's went to talk with them and it's it's. Some of this situation is not changed at schools is that the schools are not addressing it properly either. That's why we have presentations for educators as well because if the kid is going to an adult and the adult doesn't know what to do or doesn't do the right thing then they lose hope. Yeah that's why suicide is so high and I WANNA I WANNA get back to the suicide but I also think and I just remember what my older kids and then there was you know situation or two and then going to the parents and then the parents either kind. I don't want to one of three either. They okay. We'll take care of it on. I'm so sorry to denial. There's no way my kid did that or three. Don't really care I mean do you see that it was in any of those is definitely a possibility not and <hes> but the worst thing that I see right now is that the parents are not setting good examples and children learn by example right they watch you. You can't be going off at your friend on the phone. I can't believe Sarah that a person you know he did and she didn't even have the money and she knew I wanted that person tell you oh yeah Hubby Nice. Your friends tiny have fun at your friend's house. I mean they they see what you're saying and how you act and that is is how they learn how to behave and be around other people and if you're not careful you could teach the wrong thing. They're easily. I think that's <hes> eventually I'm going to get to what your ultimate lesson learned but if this isn't it this is a a big one it's lead by example you have to lead by example for parents and be more caring be more careful and raise the bar for your family to make sure your fam- everybody's treating one another we kindness nobody's saying any harsh words. Nobody's putting <hes> anybody down even between siblings or with your <hes> spouse. How are you handling situations? How are you handling conflict? Are you teaching the right way to deal with conflict or is everybody getting angry and yelling going their own ways or is everything behind closed doors. That's not good either because you're not teaching anything. Every time you have an argument you go behind closed doors. There's a chance that you could actually teach your children there so many chances during the day one hundred percent yeah. What do you think the problems getting worse personally? I think that there is so much unfortunately hatred and fear going around in our culture and our everyday experiences is that <hes> the kids are tuned to what's going on and they they take that they take on that and it's it's not helping them the situation but I think part of that is also <hes> social media and everything else. The problem is it's. It's getting out of hand. It's getting dangerous for the kids. Now <hes> social media we talked about one out of every three but even going back to the suicide suicide one out of every five kids last year between the age of ten to seventeen seriously thought about taking their own lives one of five one out of five. You share something that was so so terminate the how you five year old five year old five year olds are doing this now. Yeah one one shot himself in one hung himself in the school yard. They found him in the morning and it's it's heartbreaking to think that kids that kyung they feel so much pain that they feel taking their own. Life is the only way and you know we have those vigils of children. We take our <hes> public awareness events about ninety something percent enough those parents knew and schools knew that this kid is being bullied and but when the kid goes to those adults and tells them if they don't do the right thing which all of those cases adults else failed the school failed the parents failed. Nobody knew what to do about it. They feel hopeless and they think nobody can help me right now. What schools are doing is what they've done for the past thirty forty fifty years which they wait until bullying happens and then they say oh that was in good dow was not good so now? Let's sit down together most of them bring the kids together. The abuser and abuse have to sit in front of each other apologize and as if you know they can work things out together and that is not the way the studies show that that makes bullying be way worse like ten times worse and from my personal experience the same thing happened with my child and I had to change districts Ricksen schools completely to save them but that's one other reason and then the school shootings last <hes> twenty seventeen we had forty three which if you think about it. There's only one hundred eighty today's in school. That's one every four days a school shooting but last year it raised rose up to ninety three ninety three days. It's in the yeah in the past <hes>. <hes> twenty years that they have data from this has never ever happened before every every other day every other day and more plus there's a shooting and we have to see the reality every kid right now. They a one out of six kids go to school with a weapon and a weapon could be a knife. It could be anything but they're using it. You know it it's actually lowered than ten years ago. It used to be much more much higher but kids are using it now before was for self defense and was for certain races that they felt intimidated and they wanted to have something for self defense but now now he's very general kits have that and is happening and and we have to take a look at that too but yes the situation is absolutely getting worse and it's so important right now that we lead our kids towards being the more humanistic path and say okay this is how you heal will from this coin so they can come become our next healers and compassionate leaders and change makers peace makers. That's what we want them to be of course so you gave an example which is kind of traditional of how the bullied in the earlier. You're brought together. What are you seeing is the more effective way to handle that so the effective way is to separate them and you don't want them to give a just a apologies legit now going to do anything but you're just creating more chances for the one getting bully to get bullied when you bring them together and keep bringing them together and then also the kids so they find more chances Willie the kid that they always willie eighteen and also they have a chance to brag about it in front of other kids instead of bystander so it makes it worse you're supposed to separate them and offer help and solutions right? Now I am I I I've heard budget cuts. I have a lot to do with this but kids are <hes> <hes> are being expelled if they've done any bullying very easily and fast without really the principles getting help for them. There is so much help especially in Orange County. There's West End Your Services Mrs. There's living success center if you're under MEDI CAL CAn't Western new services does everything they can come to the school they can go to your home. They can evaluate the kid and offer help rather than expelling this kids that can really benefit from healthy social interaction at school and but yeah what was the question. Did I get away from the question. My question was so they'll always put them together. When you're seeing the separate separate so not to to drill get granted with that but so in like a crass classroom situation are you saying our schools like taking one child and moving them to another class is at that Sorta to offer help in therapy and counseling? You want to separate them but you don't want to separate them as far as when they're sitting in the class. It's there's something I don't know some kind of yes superstar here all right so what can parents do if their if their child child is Boeing so if your child is bullied. I know he's very tough you have to first of all. Stay calm. Stay calm as much as possible because only thirty three or less than thirty three percent. One of the kids go to parents and tell him that they've been bullied because you know maybe they feel like they're going to get blamed for it. Maybe they feel not comfortable enough. Maybe they're gonNA get judged by parents the wrong way so when they do come to you you want to praise them for coming to you and make sure you provide a safe environment for them to come to you and speak to you without judging him without putting the pressure that to to give you anything <hes> or with anger or disappointment you have to always stay home and positive never blame your child never go after the parents bully and to figure out what things are what what happened and you know your kid. This a lot of the bullying is is a learned behavior so some of the beliefs have learned it from family. Mom could be that way that could be that way and going after them if you don't know exactly what to do and what to say it can be troublesome and so basically you have to make sure your kid tells you everything. Encourage your child to just be open up and sit down and offer comfort and take notes of everything that is happening the name the place what time then you're GonNa make an appointment with school and going to school and discussing this with the school but make sure that you always tell the school that no matter what I don't want my child and this kid to be in the same. Broom talking about this issue because it does make things worse now what on the but on the other side what about a parent who has a child that bullies now that this is GonNa get confronted. Hey your childhood this yes yes what would would you say one more thing. I left out with the other one. I'm GonNa just say that. <hes> you do want to do some role playing with your child. There's four steps you want to follow in your child is bullied and you want to make sure that <hes> they find there were voice to say strongly and be able to rise up to bullying themselves. One is number one. Is You have to ignore the bully and walk away and eighty percent of the time if you ignore the Willie and walkaway bullying stops. What do you think that is why why is that the boys not gaining satisfaction so that works very good if the bullies not getting a rise Outta you they go? Oh you're no fun to pick on the second thing is let's say that doesn't stop and the bully comes after you and keeps bugging you you do need to turn around. Look him in the face and say stop knock it off. Leave me alone but you want to say it. I practice with the kids with putting their hands like this and I'd say stop because you do want to mean it. You can't say you'll stop you WanNa really mean it practice in front of a mirror and then also we tell them to go to a crowded place. Most kids think oh you know if Vigo hiding the bathroom maybe the bully can't find me and a lot of incidents and has happened in the bathrooms so you WanNa stay where there's other people. If you don't have a friend make sure you're having lunch where there's lots of people and hopefully teachers and then the last thing we say is to talk to an adult so if your child is the bully yes that makes things a little bit more complicated and again with the same thing with the one if your child is being bullied you WanNa stay calm. You WanNa stay calm because there's so much work to do. This is a wakeup call. This is a wakeup call that your child needs help so when you usually get a call from school your child was involved in this bullying act you wanted listen to everything. Don't get offensive. Don't yell and scream listen. Take notes and make sure that you reassure them that you're going to talk to your child. Then you are going to talk to your child and make sure again the same thing you listen don't judge though in judge about let's let's hear his or her side of this story and see what they explained. My let them know that bullying is not okay with you and you have to go to school and you have to support what the school is offering and whatever the punishment would be and and you do want to have punishment but you don't WanNa be too harsh. I heard about this father who <hes> her. His child was willing someone on the bus at the. I don't know if you saw it on Youtube. He made her walk to school every day. Okay you said okay you know find. You're not going to be on the bus you got kicked out of us. He would follow her but he would put these videos on Youtube and it's humiliating yeah. You don't want to do anything like that. I mean the way you WanNa on a parent is fine and a lot of parents will were saying Oh yes do this but for the child I have a visual of another child who sent some semi nude pictures to her boyfriend that found out and and she had this long beautiful hair she he sat her on a chair with the camera and he started cutting off her hair saying. I'm GonNa do this as punishment because you did this and this was wrong. Was it worth it. Was it worth it and she's she's crying and she's crying day. After she's on a bridge she just takes the car right off the bridge and she kills herself and it's. We don't want to be too harsh. I'm so sorry this is why I need. The music saves me. I know this is so dark and so sad but you don't want to be too harsh as far as <hes> how you punish your kid if done cyberbullying take away the phone that's okay for a a couple of days and you know you do want to monitor how much on the phone but basically this is a wakeup call so evaluate the situation. What would be some of the reasons? Your child is acting out is it. Could it be because they're going through something new. Maybe they feel they have low self esteem and bullying makes them feeling important. Maybe there's some kind of a divorce or something else is happening or maybe they just haven't found a way the right healthy way to deal with anger and frustration and and this is how they're doing it either way. There's so much help get helped and look at it as an opportunity to make sure you help your child become all they're supposed to be. Are there any statistics. I don't know if you would know this but that. That for for the bully you're that kind of left unattended or unaddressed that they end up becoming worse and or in jail or something like that is their statistics on that there is I'm trying to see if I can find it here but I know that it continues on and the empathy level unfortunately as you age grows higher you have less and less empathy if the bully continues to bully searchers snowballs <music> snowballs and no more empathy and then he turns into sexual harassment domestic violence it has other names as an adult. I have another statistic which I can't find it right now. But about <hes> <unk> by the age they're thirty years old <hes> about some high percentage like eighty percent of them are detained about four times and they can't hang onto relationships and <hes> they become abusers of their family family and their children's well. I know we're running out of time but I I will say there is and we we've talked about this before. There is the other side there is the abuser of the earlier who then goes through a period of maybe acknowledging what they did right eight and then having to deal with that and my own personal experience and we'll certainly get to that when we do our thing and I've told you about this but I ran into one of my bull ears at data incredible retail sore and as he approached me I still had even as an adult you know thirty years later I had this this thing this terrible feeling come through me and as he came up to me he just he gave me put out his hand shook my hand and gave me a big hug and just said I'm really sorry you know I didn't. I didn't really push it. I accepted it of course because that's how I am. I just wonder you know how long he's been dealing with that what he had to cope with so there's there's so many different angles so this I think unfortunately sadly. There's not that many cases of what you experienced so. This is a minority wonderful that you did. He came out and you know He. It's definitely it's been bothering him for so long. It was happy to see you so he had a chance to apologize. Yeah I'm glad I don't think it's appropriate say the name but there is a very very famous person. I'm probably the most famous actors used to be a singer who apparently was not a very good kid then has come back and and come back to the schools and the teachers and giving money and not everyone has has accepted his apology but he certainly seems sincere. That's wonderful that is wonderful to see wish. I knew we're out of time so I just I wanna say what a pleasure has been having a studio tate. We've we've had so many conversations and I can't wait to continue to work with you on this sure and I do have the honor of asking as I sit in the beginning. We'll buy call my final thought question. which is what is your ultimate? Listen learned as your through your process of of the kindness and bullying awareness. My ultimate lesson is I know it could be better we know about the benefits of kindness for everyone for the the ones doing that kind act the ones receiving it and it helps the bystanders as well so there is hope and I know we can do it but we all have to take the pledge and we must rise above race and color and gender differences and political view differences his and put our focus on the goodness of humanity. There's so much more we have in common than we have in our differences and I know together we can do it. That's so true so great. How can people either reach you support you help you? What's the best contact contact info but we need a lot of help so please do reach out <hes> our website is kind and safe schools dot org <hes> the new website is under construction so if you visit after Friday it would be much cleaner and and much better looking than what it is right now but you could still getting cut contact with us either <hes> <hes> you could email me at shoddy s. h.? A. D. I add kind and safe schools dot org and our phone number is nine four nine nine four one five four zero nine six and please do reach out. If you have any help or passion for this cause <hes> we would love to have you and I encourage everyone to do just that so thanks everyone anyone who has tuned in today. We look forward to be back in the studio. Next week. Cheers tune in next week for the latest edition of Zandbergen Report Tuesdays at two PM catch up on our recent shows by visiting Bart Zandbergen Doc pod BEAN DOT dot com. The ZANDBERGEN report is also available on Itunes Iheartradio spotify interested in being featured guest on our show or have a question. You'd like to hear his answer email podcast at Art Zandbergen Dot Com.

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Carolyn Porco has More info about Titan Helicopter - Clip

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07:40 min | 1 year ago

Carolyn Porco has More info about Titan Helicopter - Clip

"If you're listening to this, you obviously, like podcast and you probably like music to on Spotify, you can listen to all of that. And what place for free. You don't need a premium account. Spotify has a huge catalog podcasts on every topic including the one you're listening to right now. Uh Spotify, you can follow your favorite podcast. So you never miss an episode. Download episodes to listen to offline wherever you are easily share what you're listening to with your friends via Spotify integrations with social media platforms like Instagram. So just search for space news pot on the Spotify app or browse podcasts in your library, tab, and follow me. So you never miss an episode of the space news pod. Spotify is the world's leading music streaming service. And now it can be your go-to for podcasts too. Low-and. Welcome back to the space news pod. A daily podcast of about the exploration of space science in tech. I'm your host will Walden in this episode. We're going to be talking about titan, NASA. We'll be sending a helicopter to take. It's a drone it kind of looks like ones that you can buy in the commercial space. So drones that we have here on earth. I'm going to look like the one that's going to be on titan. This drone. We'll be launching in the thousand twenty s we'll be landing in the twenty thirties, and it's going to be searching for life. It's very important that they get this, right. Because this could be their only shot to get titan for a very long time. It takes about ten years to get there. So if this mission fails, it'll be at least another twenty years before we get another chance to get over there. Now that being said. It's really rough on titan. It's atmosphere is mainly methane. It makes it extremely difficult to create. Flying drone? It's autonomous too. So let me let me tell you about this. It's autonomous for one. We can't fly a drone from here. Heff the signal go to tighten tell it, what to do and have the signal bounce back to earth. And tell us that it went totally fine in real time. The stuff that's been going on here on earth. Thomas. Drones the autonomous vehicles. Well, that's the kind of technology that's going to be used on titan with this quad copter. It's absolutely insane that this is actually happening. So if your into tech take a look at this quad copter. It's on my website space news, podcast dot com or space industry, news dot com. I just kinda resurface that one out of nowhere. It's been around, but I haven't really been focusing on it. And if you're into Saturn, you can go to Magellan, TV dot com slash space news pod to check out every documentary, you'll ever need to know about Saturn and its moons. You can get two months for free, and then after that's done. It's is lowest four ninety nine per month. And all of these movies, all these documentaries, all of these shows thir- an HD, and you can watch on any device at any time. So thank you Magellan for helping out the podcast. And thank you for everybody for listening. Now, let's get back into some titan news. And there's a few things that this drone has to really worry about one of them is the surface. Now, if the surface of titan, as scientists believe it is, is a sandy material the Roeder's could get clogged with sand. The instruments could get clogged with this sand, because if you think about it, what happens when a helicopter lands, it pushes everything aside seeing shoots everywhere. Dershowitz everywhere on the have to worry about getting these things insulated from the sand is much possible. Make sure they don't clog up now since the atmosphere is methane and there are methane rains that come down on titan. If methane rain comes down on the Lander on the Thomas drone. Well, it might clog up the instruments and I spoke with Carolyn Porco on Twitter. Caroline is the Cassini imaging lead. I said, hey, how cool is it that we are sending a helicopter to another world? She said how cool two hundred ninety degrees below zero Fahrenheit. Did you expect any other answer from a scientist? But also dazzling spectacular. I really hope I'm still around to see it, and that it works. And Caroline, makes a really great point here. It's really, really cold on tight almost negative three hundred degrees Fahrenheit. Super cold spaces very cold as well. When you're traveling through space, very cold. So the scientists at NASA, the engineers at NASA will have taken care of this, by the time it gets there, and then I followed it up with kind of expected to hear this. It looks incredibly complex. Hopefully, the technology is able to withstand that kind of temperature from the mission length seems like sand, maybe a factor in the long term, as well any thoughts, lots of moving parts on this one. She said, we're not sure the surfaces Sand Lake. It could be more like snow made of tar, but there will be large particles, made of organic compound and it's not clear to me what that might due to mechanical mechanisms dust on the moon was a real problem for Apollo astronauts, so it seems like the engineers have their work cut out for them on this one. They're going to be searching for life. They're going to be looking at closer looks close ups of the surface. Titan. They're going to have cameras on this thing, high definition cameras, that they'll be able to stitch together so they can make moving pictures movies, and it's going to look absolutely amazing. And I can't wait for it. So I want to say thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to spend two here with me on the space news pod. Checkout space news, pod dot com. Every night. I do a live podcast so you can come and hang out and come chat with me, Espy questions. You know, let me know about cool stuff that's going on just say, hi anything, you want to know go to space news, pod dot com on Twitter at space news pot, on Facebook at space news pot. Thank you, again, to Magellan TV dot com slash space news, pod checkout, that site for documentaries about cool space stuff, two months for free on any device anywhere. Thanks again. For taking the time out of your data's spend it here with me on the space news pod. My name is will Walden, and I will see you soon.

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Leprechaun Returns - Behind the Scenes Interviews

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36:06 min | 2 years ago

Leprechaun Returns - Behind the Scenes Interviews

"What landed died? This should note it off his I'd but you speak from the well. And now you'll be killing. There once was a love movie franchise, but to binge-watch would not advice but Lear concerns for the leprechaun returns. New lapsing kills for your is load playing listeners. Welcome back as we return to the leprechaun retrospective series. Why? Because out of the blue leprechaun returns has come out. And no, it's not a sequel to the abysmal leprechaun origins ad for what I could tell WWE has no involvement in this. It's a co production between Lionsgate and the scifi channel. And they're taking a new approach to leprechaun kinda like Halloween did in October of this year. This movie is a direct sequel to part one. So the leprechauns never been to Vegas or space or the hood. It's going back to the original taking place twenty five years after the original leprechaun film. Now this movie came out on video on demand December. Eleventh. Our review of the movie will be going up near Saint Patrick's Day. But as part of my research for this movie and our review, I did get a chance to talk to some of the people involved in making the movie, and I wanted to get that to you today now, depending on how spoiler phobic, you are there are some very minor spoilers coming up in the podcast discussions of a couple of the deaths and one plot point that's revealed pretty early on in the movie, but if those kind of spoilers concern, you go ahead and watch the movie it's available now and come back and take a listen because we're gonna be talking to leprechaun returns director, Steven Kostanic. Ye the movie star Taylor sprite ler. But first we're gonna talk to the man whose inheriting Warwick Davis's, shiny black shoes. Linden. Porco Porco has been acting for fourteen years. He was one of the people who played the Chucky body and cult of Chucky yet, a recurring role as smart mouth in the scifi network anthology series channels zero and now has his star making. Turn as the leprechaun. And I don't mind saying that poor goes performance brings a great balance of humor and horror very much like Davis's original. So I'm excited that he's joining us now. Hello lyndon. Thanks for having me. Oh, thanks for coming on the show. So as I understand it you got your start in acting because of an encounter with the late. Great Verne Troyer. Is that correct? Yes. Which he came to the world of wheel in Winnipeg. And because we have the same type of twelve. Him kind of wanted to us to connect and just talk and whatnot. So ended up having some lunch and getting up on stage with him while. Yes. And some autographs and one thing led to other than what I would like to do. And I said, I, you know, I'd I'd like to act, but kind of thing and so his manager got in touch with a blues the producers from little men, and I ended up getting pulled after I sent a video in the that. Now, let's kinda kinda history. I'm I'm loving this business, and I'm so grateful to Royal the help me out along the way that was a huge huge thing in my life of show. How did you get cast as leprechaun? So I wish in fork at first, and then I didn't hear anything about a month. And I got an Email from my agent saying, hey, you know, they like to do a Skype call with you. And I said awesome. So I did that. And then I waited. another two after that audition. Staple addition, and I got rule. So it was really exciting. How'd you seen any of the leprechaun films before auditioning for leprechaun returns? Not before I dish inning. No. I watched the furthest leprechaun before I started filming for show. But I didn't watch it before you know, how did were Davis's performance as the leprechaun inform. What you did as the character? It gave me the idea of the kids doing and what you would all about Russia. But then after that, I just put my my own little twists and tones on it for showing just went after the kill do and what he wanted to each never seen. And and that kind of thing did you have to work hard to do the accent. Yeah. So I put the process before I was watching like Irish podcasts and like things online to help with the accent. So I really did that for the boat. I would say. Other like two hours every day before the audition. I would I would just listen to podcast and study the lines. Well, listening to it and just really trying to perfect the accent. What kind of direction for the character did a Stephen Kostanic, you give you onset when you were performing. He would just give me his Hugh. And now of what he would like to see, and then we would collaborate back and forms and just go out to the with the kid who wanted to do and in that same, and it was a lot of fun to play around with the coca for show. But yes, easing was like to work with easy either unbelievable to when you read the script before filming. What were your initial reactions to it you intimidated by the effects or excited? I wish you excited just to just get the ball and was a bit of process before we started filming just just because it was a bit of a weight. So I was once I had the script. I was just waiting to go and get into what caused the delay full is just because it was doing South Africa that that it was been of late from here to there. And and that kind of thing and what was your experience like in Cape Town. It was amazing. Just the the scenery and the people like key point and seeing all the difference. I think sites that you can do that was awesome actually went down with my mum about a week and a half before just to go some do sightseeing making sure that I that. I'm ready to give my best performance that I can that kind of thing. And so that was a lot of fun definitely helped ease into it for sure how long were you in South Africa for this film, six weeks? Obviously one of the big things about this. Character is the look and you had some great prosthetics in it. What was the makeup regimen? Like, it was pretty easy. Once we got the ball and to put the plastic on, and yeah, it was just like a skullcap ahead piece. And then just a face and. In the lips. And so one and the teeth and everything like that. But it was over a one-two wonderful experience to work with with clam, Nick wind. Yeah, they will just made into work with the show one of the things work Davis always said about the role which I found amusing was the best part of the costume. Where the shoes he said, they were the most comfortable shoes he'd had in a movie and insisted on having the same ones film after film where you as lucky with the shoes in this one may definitely definitely found. A comfy pair a time funding that concierge town and flat tops for the most of doing a full body shot than I would put the the heels on that kind of thing. But the she shoes I found at the end of it issue were you a horror movie fan? I know you also did some work with cult of Truckee last year. Actually, I am. Actually scared of a horror movies, and so I don't like going watching them whatnot because I just get way too scared and and whatnot. But I love acting in the shoot what seemed the this movie? Do you think would have scared you the most if you were just a viewer of it? I think one of the kills should is that really stand out to me. And actually haven't seen the movie at some super excited to see it. But each individual kill is so unique, and it was just so fun to be opponent. Did you have one that was your favorite to film? I did. Yes. I I don't know if I can talk about it comes out. But I believe it was it was mantis kill that was one that really stood out to me was that the sprinklers. Yeah. That one. What about the scene where you end this is in the trailer where there's so many of your character the small lilliputian leprechaun's running around. How was that experience to kind of interact with yourself while it actually on the last day, filming why did all those little hint of the mini me's? That was a lot of fun to do. It was pretty cool to do one thing. And just go after it and do another thing way, and that kind of thing and for the leprechauns rebirth. There was quite a scene in the film involving you and Mark Holton who returned to play Ozzy as he didn't the first film. Can you tell me what was involved for you with filming this kind of birth seen pretty much everything? I wait the one to get it all of it with some help that option even get no Hanjiang and whatnot. But I like one who who did all the like pushing to what was it tricky at all with all of the prosthetics and the I mean, not just. Yours. But also, the Mark Holton 's on yet that was actually the first day that I was on second did that that was a lot of fun to do that yet over say, it was a bit of a tricky thing to kinda maneuver, but I believe it all worked out and whatnot for sure did you get a chance to hang out in seat Capetown with Mark or any of your other cast members? I know you said you went with your mom ahead of time. But during the six week shoot. Yeah. Yeah. When with all the cash for shit on off days did a few sightseeing went to the beach. Yeah. It was it was awesome. Awesome. Just hang out get to know one. I believe we came some pretty good friends out of it for sure if they movie's a hit, and they wanna do another one are you game for it count me in for show come in and given that you were in cult of Chucky last year and leprechaun this year who wins in that fight Chucky or the left. Recon I'll have to let the audience be the judge of that part will Linden. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you so much. Really? Appreciate it. Thanks for having me now next. Joining us is an actress, you may know from her role of Lennox. She played for five years on Melissa and Joey or her role of Kendra daughter of Kevin James character in the CBS series. Kevin can wait. She also appeared in twenty teens, Amityville the awakening. Her name is Taylor sprite ler. And she's now playing Lila the main human character in leprechaun returns. And Lila also happens to be the daughter of Jennifer Aniston's character, Tori from the original repre confident. So thanks for coming on the show Taylor Arnie told me about how you got the lead in the new leprechaun film. Well, I had worked with some of the producers kind of previously we had known each other from back in the day. So I was actually in New York shooting Kevin can wait at the time. And they had reached out and asked me about it. And I had heard of leprechaun franchise, but I wasn't super familiar which it and then once I started. You know, googling and figuring it all out of have to do this obsessed with kind of coltie horror, and you know, this was my perfect thing. So what kind of cult horror films? Do you like I really well now pretty much every leprechaun movie, my friends, and I decided that before mine came out, but like almost every weekend whenever we can get together come over like they would come over to my house, and we would watch them. But I don't know. I mean, I just I don't know I grew up like watching gate Ye and you know, and just a big I like horror film. So this was kind of perfect. I would horse them the rest of my life is like a when you caught up all the leprechaun films, which one of those your favorite probably got to the hood to. Though was that one was pretty great. Yeah. They're I mean, they're all good. And I'm yeah. I think it just I love the way the movie turned out really happy about it. No your character. Lila is the daughter of the original, Jennifer, Aniston character. Did you look to her performance in that movie to influence any of your choices? I I mean, I had watched it a few times. But not really because you know, it took place in such a different time and her character was so like not about being at this house. And you know, she was kind of the Princess where my character was like. Yeah. Let's do this. Let's be in the sorority. Let's change the world. So you know, it was a little different. But there was definitely like mannerisms. And like, you know, we had some things like even my clothes matching like, you know, in the original leprechaun, she always has like shoelaces that are kind of different like her shoes a little quirky and weird. And we incorporated that in the new movie to kind of just pay like an mosh to her character. And they Reginald and the leprechaun series has always been as much comedy as it is horror and with your background in comedy for Melissa and Joey and Kevin can wait. Did you find that that helped you to set the right tone for this film? Yeah. Definitely it was you know, it was awesome. When you were doing something that is definitely and out there. It's nice to have just know that you're doing it kind of as a comedy. But then there are parts of our actually kind of terrifying. I watched it last night watching it with some friends definitely some parts that we were like, whoa. Okay. Forgot that that happened. That's kind of buying. It was nice to have the mix of the two. So it was last night. The first time you saw the final cut. Yeah. Last night was the first time. I really only seen parts of it. When I was doing like eighty yard stuff like that. I had never seen it all the way through. So it was really cool to see you know, what when we were in South Africa's shooting this. So we were just kind of there like having this experience showing up being like, okay, we're doing the new leprechaun baske-. Let's do his nose cool to watch it last night. And you see what we did? And then the post day, you know, like shooting crazy fourteen hour days sometimes like you're exhausted. So then when you get to rewatch it and you're like, oh, yeah. That happened or the things that I wasn't in. I'm like, oh, wow. Okay. That's really bloody. Yeah. Because I imagine a lot of the facts were done second unit. And after the fact as far as some of the gore goes and the multiple little leprechauns and things. Yeah. But actually a lot of it was practical like a lot of stuff because these Stansky, you know, the kind of his background is in special effects. So there was a lot of stuff that we got to see firsthand and a lot of we did it on the day. That's how it was obviously, not the little apricot. But but we did have little models of them and stuff. It was really cool. Honestly, it was such a such a cool thing to shoot someone who loves blood and gore to get to see it firsthand. And how it all comes together was really exciting. You mentioned this was shot in South Africa. And I know this was a six week shoot. What was that experience like for you being down there that long? It was amazing. I mean, the people were mazing are casting. It was just it was such a fan experience. I actually stayed longer everyone else. Like, okay, we're shooting going. Home, and I've stayed before a little over week longer. Just because I wanted to you know, kind of be there and do some of the touristy stuff, and, you know, be able to enjoy Cape Town because when you're shooting, you don't have a lot of time to do extracurricular activities. So I think hind absolutely loved it. None of us really wanted it to be over. That's awesome. You're also the only actor in the film, with the exception of Lyndon to really have too many scenes with Mark Holton who's reprising his role of Ozzy from the original film. Did he have any stories or anything to say about the leprechaun series with his return any advice to impart? Yeah, I think he was very surprised and very pleased that it was coming back. I think it was something that you know, he kind of tucked away that he did in nineteen ninety three like him out the year. I was born. So I don't think that it was gonna ever come back. So yeah, it was cool. It just getting to hear kind of some of the stories or like Hina scenes like, you know. However, she something you would just be like, oh, this reminds me like when we did it in the first one, and it was really cool to have the veteran of it, you know, kind of leading the pack and being there, and if we had questions about things that you know, he would be able to answer it and be like, no this is what happened in the first one. This is why you're saying those make sense. And also, he's just such a lovely human being. He was amazing. We all stayed at the same hotel and I had breakfast with him every morning. Yeah. He's he's been in so many films. I imagine he did have quite a few stories to tell. Yeah. I don't know if he wants me to repeat any of them yet. She hasn't been store. What was the effects work like for you like, you said so much of this was practical and your character is put through the ringer a couple of times in this film? Did you find any of that challenging you know, it really wasn't? I honestly wanted more one person who kind of doesn't get covered in blood. And like, you know, I don't have like a crazy. I don't get stabbed through my body. And one of the only ones that doesn't some of the I would honestly little jealous. But it was crazy. I think that craziest thing was just like dealing with a lot of the fire stuff. 'cause I never done anything like that. Like, you know, I've been a movies where I've had to do some stunts, and I've been covered in blood, and I've had stuff like that. But I've never really worked with fire and some explosions and all that stuff. So it was really cool to see it. But they're definitely times that I was like all right. We're diving into this no going back now or cook. How about during your scenes with Lyndon? How was it to interact with him when he was in the full leprechaun makeup and things because that make up is really amazing in this film. Yeah. In terrifying and his lap that he does is like it haunts me, Phil. And he knows this and he used to like he would stand off my trailer. Or if I was sitting there he would come up and just start doing leprechaun laugh behind me. But yeah, we had a lot of fun with it. It was funny. You know, when he has like MS prosthetics on his space or when you have done, but then his hands wouldn't be like he's just sitting there. Drinking coffee in a full like leprechaun outfit. And it was just it was. What was reality? Now, you've also done Amityville as well as leprechauns. So what are some other hor franchises? I mean, you said you'd like to do horror forever. But just if you could pick some and dream projects in horror. What would you pick? You know, I don't know that I would like I don't French though want because I think like I think it's really cool to things that they're doing like with a movie like it, followed something that's kind of wage horror. You know? I think I would be really cool to like I love, you know, I love the classics. But I think it'd be cool to do different different. Take on kind of the original horror franchises will Taylor. Thank you very much for your time. Appreciate talking to you. And it was great seeing you in leprechaun returns yet. Cool. Thank you so much again. Thanks to Taylor for joining us. Now, finally, the cap off this behind the scenes show of leprechaun returns. I'm going to chat with Stephen Costanza key for over a decade. Stephen is worked as a makeup artist who's worked on silent hill. Revelation resident evil retribution. It suicide squad crimson peak, and so many more. He's also a writer and director having helmed twenty eleven's man board and twenty sixteen the void. And I'll admit right now watching the void is what gave me high expectations for the new leprechaun film. It's equal parts. John carpenter's prince of darkness, Stuart Gordon's from beyond Paul W s Anderson's event horizon. And George Romero's night of the living dead if you haven't checked it out, and you enjoy those movies, I listed you probably want to give the void a chance. So it gives me great pleasure to welcome to the show. Steven Kazansky, Ernie at you. All right. So you've directed and worked on makeup effects for number of horror movies where you were horror fan growing up funny. When I was a kid, I was actually terrified of horror movies. I could not handle them until I think it was around like twelve thirteen maybe I rented army darkness and that ended up being my. A gateway movie into the John Reid. And then after that, it was all downhill, I just started obsessively consuming. Every franchise I'm sure as all horror fans did. And so yeah, I really enjoy the John Ryan it definitely speaks to me creatively. As far as make facts, and directing and the more like fantastical elements of horror like to create on my own. So yeah, I I love horror, but what were some of your favorite franchises? I mean that seems to shift from year to year as a I mean, I used to be evil dead used to be my thing, and then kind of dipped into phantasm and hell raiser. I mean, I really like most of them. There isn't really one that. I like have a serious this like for recently, I took long enough, but I finally got into Friday the thirteenth mainly because of the Friday the thirteenth game that came out the on games like they gave me an excuse to. Kinda revisit that franchise and develop a new appreciation for it. So those more of a Freddie guy Jason X genius or ridiculous. I guess that depends on what kind of mood I'm in because some days, I love that movie. And then other days, I'm like, I can't even I can't even handle this thing. It's definitely has. It has moments that are too stupid like to engage in at all like, I don't even wanna start like dissecting that film. But it somedays it's a lot of fun. And then some days, it's the most annoying thing I've ever seen. So I think yeah. Since I haven't watched it awhile. I'm gonna say it's genius. But I've met if I watched tomorrow, I'd be like, oh, this movie sucks. But I love that trailer when you were getting into word, then you said army darkness, and that came out the same time the first leprechaun film did. So I imagine you were getting into horror around the time the leprechaun films were in their heyday. Did you see them back? Then like I had seen them at friends houses. Like, you know, the typical. Like kid situation, where your friends parents rent a whole bunch of movies, and you like kinda marathon them and the sleep. So like I had seen. I had seen one in seem to and I ended up skipping right to three when I was younger and really enjoyed that one Vegas. One was a lot of fun. And then like they had kind of just mixed into the pot with every other franchise growing up. So as I said, it wasn't necessarily my number one. But it was definitely like part of the lexicon of my like horror consumption. So how did you go from horror fan into getting into makeup effects when I saw army darkness? My parents bought me the VHS for Christmas. And it was one of those anchor-baby that had bonus features at the end, which at the time was unheard of. And I remember watching the movie and then watching pass the credit into this making dot and in its there's Ma. Taj of guys working at can't be affects pulling creatures, and I remember seeing that in like kind of like the curtain on the the magic of filmmaking had been lifted and I saw like would it really was. And I remember being so excited. Oh, it's just like a bunch of like Gerda dudes listening to meddle with iron maiden shirts. Like just goofing around making monsters like seems like a pretty good time 'cause up to that point. You know, like the kid you think like making movies is such an inaccessible thing. Like, it's just so magical and otherworldly it's like there's no real world connections. So once once I start consuming these behind the scenes vignettes like army darkness, but also on a lot of full moon movies would have those video those events. And so those are show behind the scenes on my puppet master and transfers and stuff. And then also there's a show called movie magic that was on TV in the nineties would show behind the scene like Star Wars, and Terminator and stuff. So all that stuff. All the behind the scenes stuff was. What really hooked me until like figuring out how I could become a part of this process of making creatures for film. And so I started just kind of noodling and my parents basements in between. You know, when it should have been doing homework was sculpting creatures and taught myself how to do stop motion and started started in animation, then transitioned into doing creatures preacher affects and making masks and things, and yeah, just kind of took off from there. So how'd you get involved with leprechaun returns? Then I work at a shopping trial called masters affects that does creature facts, and that's like my day job in between directing my own films. And so I was at the shop one day or shop supervisor came in and said that they were bidding on a new leprechaun movie. And so I got excited about that. 'cause as a horror fan, the idea of working on any franchises super exciting 'cause it's like an opportunity to, you know, become part of horror history. And the next day. I got an Email from my manager being like, oh like. The producers of this leprechaun movie wanna talk to you and see if you were interested directing us, and so I spoke with them, and I really liked the angle they were coming from. And just you know, I had two options in front of me either. Like, we're on the movie, and you know, achieve somebody else's vision Ford or like steer the ship. And then also still kind of like get my hands dirty do creature affects and stuff. So it seemed like a pretty obvious choice to to jump in and direct, you know, the leprechaun series as you mentioned, it has a storied history and the last film from WWE origins wasn't so well received so coming into this fresh start for leprechaun kind of rebooting a sequel to part one what were your goals for the film and the character will my goals were to make a movie that head the spirit of the earlier films that had like all the fun of the early films that like me the kid growing up like latched onto and. Also was willing to embrace like the absurdity the overall absurdity of the franchise while still like delivering like just a fun roller coaster of a horror movie. So yeah. Like going into it. We definitely wanted to get as far away from origins as possible and kind of go back to the like more chairman fantasy spirits of the earlier movies. I'm definitely more of like a fantasy horror guy like I said like with army darkness being one of my favorite move is. I really wanted to kind of have something with that kind of spirit that can be like fun and playful, but then also get intense and have real consequences at the same time and just kind of go back and forth and give people that kind of like that kinda rollercoaster vibe. So the goal is just to make the most fun horror movie. I could make that gets us as far away from this current glut of like dead serious ghost movies that I feel like the horror genre's living and right now, I just want to make something felt like when I rented leprechaun three in the nineties, and like was that kind of fun of like rent. Straight to video horror movie and like the excitement that comes with that. And thank you very much for that. Honestly, I agree with you. There's just only so many films, I can take and I really thought this and the void were just wonderful. I hate to say throwback because there's no reason for them to be throwback, but they're just not making those kinds of movies as much anymore. So yeah, exactly what I like. It's not we're not making these like imitations of thing that used to happen. It's like the way people call practical effects like old school. It's like, no, it's not old school. It's just the way supposed to be like you're supposed to have a broad range of movies to choose from like, I miss the the adventure of the video store where you go in. And it's just like every movie is a totally different crazy thing. Like, I feel now we're in a current like our current state of films like we hit a trend and everybody sticks to that trend whereas I feel like in like the eighties nineties. You know, people were a little more adventurous and a little more open to do. Crazy things. And so it's like that Saifi was open to making like, a silly fun kind of horror comedy, you know, absurd film like this. They got me excited. 'cause like it's the kind of thing that I don't feel like people are really making anymore. Were you involved with the casting of the film or was that done before you brought in when I came on board Warwick was already like not on board the project. So I came in knowing like I would have to recast the title character. So I yeah, I was involved in all the casting on the film. I had heard Jennifer Aniston was approached to reprise her role. Is that true? I mean, you can ask the producers about that. Okay. 'cause I don't want that spoils the plot of the movie ultimately because I've kind of ties into the the narrative that we're trying to tell and. Yeah, I don't wanna spoil it. I feel like her character has a presence in the film. How we cheat this you can watch the movie and people can watch the movie and figure out for themselves and. So you were involved with the casting of Lyndon than as the new leprechaun? How did the search for the leprechaun go? And what was it about Lyndon that made him the choice? Well, it was we ought to a lot of people and with Lyndon. I just really latched onto his his energy, and how charming he was. I felt like he had like kind of like a like exuberance, and like a playfulness that I wanted for the character. Like, he's the title character the movie hinges on him. I didn't want somebody like playing it dark and serious. But I wanted somebody that could dip into dark and serious if they needed to and I liked Lyndon could go from playful and fun and very bombast pick into kind of dark and sinister and then jump like back and forth. And that like unpredictability was what I wanted for the leprechaun like I want you to not know like would Anglesey coming from the scene is he'd like to joke around do some stupid or is he going to murder somebody? That's like source of a lot of like ten. Engine for that character. So I feel like Wyndham really embodied that and just was just great to work with and like feel like you brought broad today game to the parts. And I think he really like crafted kind of his own spin on the left pecan still being respectful to Warwick's portrayal. Like, I do feel like he carries the spirit of back character perfectly. I didn't want people to watch it. And the whole time be thinking like, oh, why isn't this Warwick? Like, I want you to get absorbed into it, and like accepted like this is kind of a new direction for the character. And he's his own thing without disrespecting the previous version of him in regards to make up an effect. It seems that this film used a lot of practical effects. I mean, the makeup on the leprechaun is I think what good old-fashioned latex there and several of the kills. Yeah. Well, I mean because the shop that was working at did all the effects like I was able to help supervise and Bill. Some of the effects, and I mean hired two of my favorite artists in the industry nickel Benjamin Graham shivers who flew out from Toronto to Cape Town reshot, and they they were the ones who applied the make up every day and grams actually the one who sculpted as as well as just really fantastic working with them late. It's my favorite part of making movies is that collaborative process, especially on the effect side of things. So I really feel like the shop master sex had a lot of fun with all these gags with the character. Because I really went nuts with all the stuff that I wanted it. I mean, I probably put a little bit too much work on their plate. But I like to be in business with my movies. And so I think it really show there's a lot of gags in this film because a lot of affects a lot of like just fun moments. Well, thank you for joining me. I hope we have a chance to talk again sometime in the future. Yeah. For sure man have a good one. 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Attack on Titan Season 4 | Episode 7 Spoiler Discussion (Assault)

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Attack on Titan Season 4 | Episode 7 Spoiler Discussion (Assault)

"Hello everybody and welcome facts. Who another episode of nerd super bowl algebra joint you today by andres and manny and we are back to discuss attack on tightened season four episode seven for the season in episode sixty six overall assault. Good to have you guys here. It's been a while you know. Let's say like three years now for you. You might be three years dude longtime coming. Everyone wanted me to get marissa on. These videos knows like next. Best thing. marissa's brother turtle soup in started. We just pretend you're maria center voice deeper and honors. How you doing man. I'm happy happy to be back. You've been back what what was the last video. You're on your own so shima with us right. it was. Yeah that was a fun review. Well attack on titan season four. We're all fans of this anime. We've been fans for a long time and you know it's kind of bittersweet that it's coming to an end but i think we've all enjoyed season four up until this point An episode seven or episode. sixty six. Whatever you wanna call it. I think this was the best episode of the season. They keep getting better but this was all the character development. They've done up until this point giving us this perspective of the warrior candidates and marley's side of this fight now you when when these moments happen. You don't know who you're rooting for you. Feel so conflicted At least that's how. I felt the route this episode I think i'm pretty okay with the war crimes. Aaron's doing this boy it's like you play in the middle because it's like they did all the same shittu aaron and everyone on paradise island and obviously like the kids and the innocent people deserve it but you know for them kids. The kids didn't deserve during the initial assault on wall maria to make a long story short. Right fuck fuck. It's the horse award that you are going to have civilian casualties especially have they done done. Such a great job of showing how tight and power kind of a curse when arm comes out of the colossal titan after he appears in this episode for the first time looking quite dapper and he looks at all the the innocent people that he killed and he thinks to himself. Is this what you saw. Every time that you exited the titan. But like you said you know. These are the characters that we've been rooting for for so long that you can't help but be happy that morley's getting a taste of their own medicine because they've had it coming. Yeah i think that's a great point what you made about arman in the sense that when he got out of his titan form he realized this is so horrible but at the same time they killed so many people and they were completely okay with it. Even zeke himself was having fun with killing people to a degree right. And i mentioned in my solo review. That even marlene soldiers. General mcgrath plan to allow this attack to be used to galvanize the world to fight on their side. Say hey look at the devil's paradise island. They're trying to bring back their empire and mcgrath is hesitant to go along. All these people are going to die in their audience Y once again l. The can't catch a break. I mean he definitely regrets that now seeing what's going on especially when aren popped up with the colossal titan they they mentioned it was P ache and porco that paradise island can't compete with them at a straight up war while straight up war now involves them having to titans. They really put themselves into that situation on their own. Though they gave paradise island about one hundred years to train and how to fight a titan in every form so no one is more prepared for titan battle than them and they were completely not ready for that odium gear. That's what it's called right odeon. They weren't ready for that at all. Obviously because they're just ducking and dodging and just coming up on them while that was so well done at the beginning when the beast titans shows up you can only hear the the noise of the gear it was it was very young majestic And then everything just turns into complete complete brutalization. Once that fight gets going. I mean some of these action moments. We're just incredible. I sure and i think they were definitely well. Earned just given through all the suffering. Everyone's gone through throughout the show. But i feel like there's also a lot that You just have to come up with on your own sense of like. You don't know what messages aaron was sending out and you don't know what intel the scouts have exactly or what potential plans. They might have right because they believe that they had them. Kinda backed into a corner that they're fighting on enemy territory and arm in and haji my favorite character in the entire shows up at with that airship and i'm guessing that's going to be the focus of that of next episode. Get all their troops back home. And they're obviously going to be able to to regroup and continue this fight you think they're gonna do at titan drop off that can are they capable of doing a titan drop because that's the first thing that we thought a white but they need like civilians right need eldeen civilians so they would have to be doing the same thing marley. Yeah so they're probably not probably trying to get better. Aaron would wanna do that. I mean that plan might potentially backfire. Though since zeke can also control the titans so yeah that is true so that would lead to a potential counterattacks. the characters zeke. He shows up in this episode and he killed some people and has that bad ass line. Where this fight isn't with aaron yeager and levi comes up behind him and hits him with michael. Yeah you just pieces them up in like two seconds and then throws the grenades inside and presumably destroys his body. That's too easy for me. There has to be something going on there right. Yeah i mean. I think that comes from the fact that at the end of the day. Zeke doesn't have much time left. he's gonna die soon. 'cause his titan life span is about to run out so i think he doesn't really care about what the marlins want but he's on his own personal vendetta the do you think maybe they're part of their plan is also to try to capture zeke at could be it instead of just kill him because the beast titan does have the last time erin souls zeke. What did he say to him. He said like something to the effect of you'll understand and the future now so maybe aaron wants to sit down with this guy possibly like do reiner. The history would seek is so calm. I thought there was going to be a moment here where he turned a marley because it looked like he was hesitating at the very beginning. You weren't sure what he was going to do. But you would think that those two characters need to have some sort of conversation obviously going into the history of their dad and their dad being an l. d. and restoration is and that's the thing with with aaron to is he kind of fighting to fight and you wonder if both of these characters are now just fighting to fight zeke's life is coming to an end so he may be more focused on personal vendettas. But i think what what this show is always done. So well is that there's always something deeper there So i don't know how. I'm looking forward to that conversation because i just want to see how aaron reacts to whatever information zeke is going to give him because erin scenes very numb for sure even in the sense that he was able to have a genuine conversation with reiner before he bugged out and what full tight inform us able to calmly talk about how reiner broke through the wall and eventually led to killing mom and i think that shows that he definitely has the same level of patients for one. He'll inevitably talked to zeke speaking of rider in this episode. We talked about it on my review. How just suicidal. He is and how he's kind of losing. This will to not only fight but a will to live and it's gabby and falco's calls in the end that kind of a wake him from his slumber where he was just going to allow his body to just just kinda of die re wasn't even he was almost in a coma. I thought that was such a great Cliffhanger these cliff hangers are killing me. But reiner man. That's another character now. After having that conversation with aaron begging to be judged begging to be killed now he has to fight him once again and he. He's michael leone once. He thinks he's out they just pull him right back in his back against the wall against like all them because all the other titans are down at the moment. This even stand a chance. Also aaron has mikasa mukasa on his shoulder. Dude is you can't get past her exactly the joel titan man. Will you have to be smarter than that. The first against mukasa users being way too reckless i. he's terrified of all these paradise island devils. and then Zeke shows up and he's like okay. I have nothing to worry about now. So i'm just gonna run into battle will do a of the court titan. She proved to be very lethal in this episode. You know having the gunners on her back it isn't until sasha gets that captain phillips shot through the. Is there like carlo carlo. Please respond but joe. Yeah like you said just just to reckless. No i think it certainly shows that the car is much more intelligent even just when the scouts began their infiltration and she saw them zipping around and she was terrified but porco was dislike. Whatever like let's fight them found her voice to be very very disturbing invoice year titan voice when she was out there giving commands and her death to while we don't know she is going to die but man. This episode was brutal. I think there's still a potential chance that you might be eaten. Maybe by If gabby doesn't take her than most likely. The armored titan right. But i don't i don't see reiner or the car titan just dying and i think that that's why the season the genius so this season giving us the perspective of these characters. It was when she was being attacked. Is when i really felt bad and especially the way laura was eaten. Yeah because aaron realizes that he can't he can't bite through that crystallization. So what does he do uses the gel titans mouth instead. I thought that was genius. Brutal to host the the way that he just crunching. And everybody's watching it and she's just in her little cocoon in the fuck out. Look on her face was terrifying and also kind hilarious at the same time. Yeah no that's a great way to say it and then he just drinks her blood And then all just watching it like the war titan was eaten the same things about to happen to the jaw titan. Can we talk about like aaron for a second. How is this guy so nice with titan. Now he's been doing his push ups like us every night pushed. Incentives just can turn into italian whenever he wants while the four year gap is where. I'm assuming where he really begins to hone his power and just the will to fight that he has. Now when he tells the war hammer titan. You've really run out of juice here. I haven't he jumps right back out and creates a new titan body. yeah. I believe during season three. It was said that aaron could only turn into tighten up to three times and then he was completely exhausted. But i guess at this point has resolved has just reached its peak. And he's in the end game right. I mean he turns into three over the course of these two episodes right. Yes it also kind of seems like aaron's not even like a human anymore he's just like just just has no feelings and he has become almost death personified. Yes it's Like you said he doesn't feel bad about what he did but he doesn't necessarily feel good about it either. Think an this season at all. We've seen erin show any kind of emotion towards anything. He just been cold in his eyes and his face and everything the entire time. Yeah i wonder if the the arrival of arm and in this episode if we were going to see some sort because even mukasa shows up in the last episode. He's kind of like what's up. So i thought maybe armand would be the guy where we maybe see a smile Hint of joy optimism. now it's system. I mentioned that on the other review. He used to fight like a like a young hero. And now he's just a fucking soldier and used to fight like out of anger too out of emotion and now it's just like i'm just going to all these people yet an arm and makes the point that if we don't retrieve all these people if we don't regroup then our cause really is lost. I mean even the soldier in the last episode says we need a devil like eren yeager in order to win this fight so whereas aaron is is losing his humanity that might that might be the thing that propels them to victory and being so nomin being so cold. I think it's it works in the same sense. How they said they needed commander erwin because he was the devil and that's what got them as far as they did right and dude a great line when haji says this plan is crazy reminds me of her win. Yeah it also helps that. Armand is starting to look a lot like a young. He's he looks. he's gotten taller. Bit more fit the glow up. All these characters have really had its baron. He needs a haircut but yet no arman. We always debate. What was the right choice was it. Was it arm. And i was always on the side of arm and i was a bit efi for a while honestly at first. I thought it should have been irwin. But looking back i definitely think and was the right call and i think irwin just mentally was exhausted. The all the people he sent to death. That's the thing with arman. I think he's the perfect personality to control a titan because he understands not to abuse that power but what may lead to armand breakdown is like you said with irwin to sacrificing all these people having to make those choices having to to balance life and death in your own hands that that might be what destroys his character from the inside. Because we've seen a lot of that that it's not even characters know. We saw a lot of red shirts. Dying this episode in brutal ways man. The way that they were being picked off in the air. But it's about what you lose on the inside. He has to talk about. Gabby i love how. They're drawing her parallel to young erin and season one just with our anger and desire for revenge seeing our fallen comrades but i noticed that a big differences just that aaron was just fighting purely out of survival whereas gabby starting to see the other side of bit. But you know. Obviously she stolen full. Revenge mode reminds me a lot of Abby from last of us part to seems like she doesn't get tighten at this point. from maybe the reiner. Or maybe they'll have her eat peck or p curry pronounce it. Since she's just chilling they're dying. Yeah they can't take a one point in the episode. I'm thinking dan they're just gonna take all their titans. I mean it's a wrap if you paradise island has four or five times. I mean i think as we've seen throughout the season there's no such thing as an easy victory. I think there will be some way in which the marlins will launch a counter attack since aaron has the war hammer titan. Now it's even titans right because errands three than the colossal and they have four with the beasts the cart a the armored and the joy tie in rates and now it's even in terms of titans. Yes taken power not actual titans but titan power ripen than anti as well. No they don't have any still my right. Yeah no it would be even at that point to just the rest of them right. Well we also have to see. 'cause i i need to study the map. They obviously they were fighting the mid east allied forces in the beginning so these other nations that are teaming up to take on marley. Are they going to come tomorrow. Defense i thought maybe that's what the airship was at the end that it was going to be these other nations with some new technology. But that would that would help even things out or maybe tip the favor again into a into marley. It's so fucking complex man. We just need to read the manga right. We're all trying to guess me while the answers are out there. I mean i might have to read the manga once. I finished the anime for sure. Just because the just the fact. Like game of thrones and way before the books and like the ending just felt so rushed. I definitely don't have the same fear but i. I still wish the anime could have been longer than sixteen episodes is a. That's the thing it looks like. It's going to be sixteen right. Yeah yeah. I wish they'd ended in a movie or something. Just like i feel like sixteen is a little too little but i guess we just had to have faith in the creators and see what they do. Yeah that's the thing. If they know the ending. I've heard from some manga rita's that they're already. They've already skipped some stuff from the manga. Which you wonder if they just wanted the sixteen episodes so you can rather than spreading out your budget. You can have all your budget for just a very explosive and cinematic finnish. People have been complaining about the new look titans so i don't know if you sacrifice some of your story for a better presentation. That can always be frustrating. It always see how it ends for sure. It always feels like one. Episode is full of three episodes worth of content. Just like every moment is filled with so much action and story and just the pacing. I found to be so fast. Yeah the pacing has been quick but it hasn't bothered me much Maybe if i had. Maybe when i do go back and read the maga may bother me more. Maybe seems like a the pacing just picked up like very quickly after like the first four or five episodes when they were like the first four of kinda went slow. They're setting everything up in our just like foot on the gas pedal. Everyone's dying shit's getting real. You made the point in this episode. That them taking out these titans could have just been episodes by themselves. Battling against the cart titan battling against the jaw tighten and. That's the thing the way they've sped it up I've enjoyed all the counter attacks. I've enjoyed all the traps. The that people are setting for each other. It has been a bit faster than previous seasons. But i still think it's it's just so well done like this episode. When the titan gave aaron the one two and then he gets his you know he he shows his power to him. And then aaron realizes oh i can use this power against him. It is very fast but it all makes sense. It's all been very clean. It's not jumbled it may be rushed but it's not jumbled on i just wanna mention my favorite scene is when the jaw tightens jumps up. Aaron just punches him in the face. that was hilarious. That was clean punch. dude. I'm putting it up there with When the war hammer tight transforms aaron goes right for the panch transformation that was the definition of no show when he was calling a rag. Doling the Jaw tie in like that. That was also hilarious to that. Shot right where he just behind him with the titans laying on the floor and they just takes him by the head and drag them. Yeah like a rag doll. That is what really stood out to me in this episode. The it just the the way that you can keep action interesting. Always impresses me whether if it's a superhero movie or an anime. Some of the best parts of this anime aren when characters fighting when characters are sitting down and talking but the fighting has been just even to open the season you know. Did i mean. Did you guys like that battle. It's open season one. I mean season for The one where The marlins fought the outside of christie's. Yeah i thought that was good and it really showed that regardless of what happens with aaron. The fall of the titans is inevitable right. Yeah they even cutting noah and it definitely shows that having the titans is actually hurting the marlins more than anything because it's Lead to lack of innovation near you can see what paradise island has done without of times. They've made odium gear. They have the antitank guns. So i mean at a point. Titans going to become nothing. Will the humans make again. Like i said it's such a. There's so many fucking questions as so as to where the story can go that every week. I'm just so excited to watch and just get more information. I'd say for this episode in particular. My biggest question asked to be zeke. Just because that scene where he got picked up by levi was way too fast way too easy. I mean they hype it up in this episode. And we've all been hyping it up in the offseason when zeke and lavar going to meet again face to face and it was very. It was funny when he mentioned sleeve. I see levi's face and he's he's ready to go as well but yeah it was just too easy. Porco just felt way too confident when he saw z. Come he charged them like a dumb ass turns around zeke's already on the ground. Maybe there's children there maybe you know Levi busted open. He dumped him up. You know it's like you is good young. No hard feelings. You would think that there's going to be an exchange of titan power at some point. I mean we've already seen we've already seen. Aaron devour the war hammer titan That was horrific. I also wondered in the back of my head is this to easy. I mean. it wasn't easy. He had to use the mouth of the jaw. Tighten to cracker open. But it's like well. Yeah the legendary war hammer. Titan freaky ass design able to project herself into solid matter and now she's just gone so do titan powers combine because i thought it was just he would take one and then it would swap out the other so like the attack titan has just gone but i guess maybe not maybe like a cool hybrid fusion of it. You will he be able to lake project his body like that because i would probably help him a lot to you know just having to open in the back of you just have a sword right. Yeah you just have a giant fucking titan sword and now does the nate. go to the tilles. Well isn't it. The original like the founder emir. She had all six and it was just like a combination of all the powers right. So i'm guessing it's just like that do you think is that what they're building up to again were aruna possibly just has not all of them but maybe just four or five boylan when he dies with them. Don't they reincarnate another random eldeen till like there's no getting rid of the titans right. Maybe you should kill all the audience you know what maybe the marlene. I need to take a history class in this world. because does that refresh. I did not know if. I'm not mistaken. That's what happened with the founder emir h. She had all six and then she died in an all italian power. Just right yeah. Reincarnated random six however. Many titans are random Defense and that's where they they've been ever since you would think that if anyone's going to find a way to destroy the time power it would be someone like haji you know who had that fascination with the titans realizing what they really were just prisoners. That had being executed. Who knows what kind of breakthrough she's had since this time. Jump also right. Yeah we had a time jump and you know. That's we all thought that that's the route. Game of thrones is gonna go in the end and they contacted that all the magic in the world needs to be destroyed. It's kind of like a nuclear disarmament. Two nations coming together. And saying hey. We're going to get rid of our nukes. Hey we got to get rid of our titan power. I wonder if there's going to be some sort of way where everything kinda gets pinned on erin is not the fault of the lds anymore. We can't keep up this this racism that we've built our society on and we can't keep the citizens of paradise island just locked away from the rest of the world so let's all converge on. Erin i can see that we all take down erin and in the world can finally be at peace and that seems like a role that he would be willing to accept like. Hey aaron you be. The bad guy in the world can be a piece. He'd be like whatever at this point right. Yeah he would take that. And it is heartbreaking man. You know his reasons for fighting have now just kind of disappeared out if he had a good time at the ocean. Well that's that's the thing. The ocean scene is what keeps popping back in my head. That's your ending right. Yeah we're finally free. We get to see the ocean. Oh wait there's a whole nother fucking war that we get to fight that we have to fight. I mean how much time. Aaron have left like three years. Something like that not even about. I think three to six years i think. The zeke only has like two one two two years left though. Says he can reiner both right on their last leg. I feel like you've got to make a lot of assumptions. Based on the time jump. And i think one the assumptions. I'm willing to make that. I think that the people of paradise island might have titan jerem somewhere and they might just inject one of their own to consume. Some titans. potentially yeah. I think so. I mean that's what you need right. I mean if you want someone else to take the power rather than just aaron doing all them you need that serum have somebody else transformed also falco is being errands personal mail man for like weeks so who knows what kind of intel aaron could have been sending out. Yeah right that And that's that's the thing with anime. There's always Something of this lease right whenever the good guys are about to be defeated. There's another plan. And we basically have two sets of protagonist. Now so it's just gonna be back and forth and back and forth. I think of who's who sets the better trap And that just makes for great television right. His aaron going to pull a next thing you're gonna say is he's going to do the joe. Joe showed up randomly one of these battles. They could write it in where he did it to levi levi kills them. Get out of children next thing. You're to say is you're not going to destroy the world are you Do you think there will be another time jump. I don't think so. I think this is it. This is the last stand. I mean maybe like the last episode though time. Jump to like the end of errands life but filling the rest of the season is for the most bargaining take place in this time period. Yeah i wonder how long it will span if it's going to be this the span of a year several months because i mean the way they attack a war it takes a long time. It's like real life. These battles are spaced out. And like we said everyone has to kind of regroup and what's interesting with paradise island is i guess. They have the home of paradise island but now they're on the move. You know where's their home. Base is going back to that island or they shacking up somewhere else And we also have to see what the rest of the world is going to. Do you know how these alliances are drawn. Willie tarver was convinced that the world would come to support him after seeing what aaron did to them. but that's also a wildcard but next episode man. I'm excited for that. How the fuck are they gotta get outta there. What what is a beast. Tightened doing levi. Once again i to leave. I zeke interrogation scene. That would be toe. We're talking about erin. e talk. In the levi. Zeke within also aaron and reiner the rematch of the century here. Yeah yup. I have a feeling that it's probably. They're probably not really gonna fight. Because what can reiner. I mean they probably will no. I think they're going to start fighting. And then reiner's gonna see me casa and he's just gonna shed himself while i wonder if reiner yeah i mean he was having mukasa literally nightmares. I wonder if he gets out of the hero sacrifice. I think for us after spending so many years with this character after seeing what he's gone through justin this season the relationship that he has with these warrior candidates that's such a bittersweet ending for him and i think that he's he's his character arcus kinda deserved it where it's like. I've been fighting my entire life for things that that aren't even true based on lies and propaganda. If i can give my life to save people that i care about then. Maybe there's some good in that and his mind right. It's almost like a like a theon ending right now seriously. I think they're very similar characters de having to live with their sins like that. I never thought of it that way. But i definitely see reiner as a theon for sure polling beyond grows dick back. Sure theon would like that. You guys think he's coming back. When was the last time we saw. He was season. Two right. I thought it was easily captured. And she's just been in like that Frost eggs yeah. I think so. I mean you have to bring a rack right that's That's kinda just checkoffs gun sitting in waiting waiting to do something maybe they have her as a trump card. Maybe they got on her side. I doubt it but hell no then off cookie. Yeah probably not. She beat the shit out of reiner. She was ready to balance. May be it's going to be a double agent you know she's gonna pretend to be on their side and then she'll come back and then just go back. I don't know she'll be like yeah guys. You see that's the i'm so interested in the characters ekman and what's going on in his mind because he seems like he's just hiding something from everyone That's the impression you get from that character. 'cause just comparing his arc so far on season four two runners you've gotten so much insight into rauner yet. What he's thinking his past the reasons why he fought with zeki really having gotten much of that He mentioned his father that it's almost like he's trying to redeem the legacy because his father was a traitor reservationists And you just wonder if it's deeper than that if it's not i think he's a great villain at the very least right even if there isn't something more going on at zeke. Even his presence in this episode is such an asshole. You just want to see people dice. This man up you know. There's something about zeke that he it's it's obvious to see that he really believes that he's right. He doesn't feel any guilt. Like reiner every action. he makes. He's like you poor bastards of paradise island but like you deserve this. You know rea- good point. And i guess that's kind of like the two ways you can go when you live your whole life subjugated as as like a military slave. You either come to regret the decision jamaica. You just fully embrace it. It's almost like who i am. Told us like how. Aaron is right now with all the people of morally. Seems like. They're more similar than aaron. Thanks right yeah. I it just runs in the family. They have some serious motherfuckers that once it starts to go down. It's all business. He's become more jaded than levi. That's hard to do. I wonder if levi gets pissed off. Now it's like you still survives dude. I'm supposed to be the quiet sullen type. This guy's just murder. Jesus now honor farren. Still cleaning levi's quarters. After all this time it's clean freak. I still think we could probably taken though. Well i called levi the goat on my last video and some people there on the side of irwin. Heroines probably a better character Better leader and all that but when it comes down to like fighting i think win touches levi earns a military go leverage as the goat. I definitely agree with that. No one could deliver a better speech the narrowing and that episode where he charged everyone to their deaths. 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Grin: A More Private, Lighter Bitcoin - Ep.114

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Grin: A More Private, Lighter Bitcoin - Ep.114

"Everyone. Welcome to unchain your life resource for all things crypto. I'm your host Lorsch fit of new on his now on YouTube. You can find the most recent episodes there every week on unchain podcast channel. And we'll soon be getting the full archive. Also, if you're not yet subscribed to my weekly newsletter. Go now to unchain podcasts. Conto sign up within months took her NC anti money laundering relations, global for you. Ready? Avoid stiff penalties or blacklisting by deploying -ffective anti money laundering, tools for exchanges and crypto businesses. The same tools used by regulators Cypris is security crypto economy. My guest today are Daniel Ellsberg and Michael Cordner core team members of grin, welcome Daniel. And michael. Are you? Why don't we start with you? Tell the story of mimbo the technology that spawned grin for listeners who don't know the tail like, bitcoins origin story, it has a mystery at its core that makes technology even more intriguing. Sure, so mimbo is privacy and hand seeing and scalable Porco for blockchain its is name comes from the tongue time curse in Harry Potter that events afflicted from spilling secrets. It was a it was originally proposed in twenty sixteen by Saddam person called the temp Tom Elvis Jetta sore, which is the French equivalent of Lord vulva MAURICE from the Harry Potter series on the it was shared as a text file at on the bitcoin wizards serum through tore link the link to the paper was dropped there. And then this person disappeared. We haven't heard from them again. Michael when it you tell how that led to the development of grin. Sure, while diner said that paper was dropped a few months later in around saves red Massembe of two thousand sixteen someone again appeared on the same channel by the name of Ignatius. Several who is another character in the Harry Potter series suicide ethic you stole the visibility from death. That's enough. Unser? Any study was Brad together? A new information of the middle protocol on it was called grin ninety had the source about builder than ready to go on the the project kind of off from there. Wow. Who ever would have thought? Well, I'm sure JK rolling never would have thought that her creation would be used in this manner. But I do think the names and the technology do go well together, so one you guys describe what grin is or is trying to be sociable grins grins main goal was to be is to be better money. And it's what it is. It also bills itself kind of on our homepage as a lightweight implementation of the minimum photo. So even though I mean, I mean great is an entire block vanity self and on top of just the core credible protocol, they're all sorts of decisions of things that have to go into the building of a working mock Chan, but it aims to be very very very light. And as kind of non prescriptive is also a site with deals with those two has to basically. So so one of the big. Important points of protocol is that it allows you to verify transactions being valid without having to store them tire history of the blockchain unlike previous method symbols of blockchain, I it builds on a previous research a lot of it's made by Gregory Maxwell in confidential transactions one way aggregated signatures coin join an anew in cold cut through and it basically allows you to store much less data on the chain. And in general, much, less information sewing mimbo, there are no amounts. You don't need to have addresses as stored on the chain. And instead what you keep on chain is very minimal set of that. Which is basically a set of input. Sit about puts that are crypto graphically blinded. You could say in don't really mean a lot to anyone aside from the people who are actually. Involved in the transaction this allows for much easier sinking faster sinking and less size of the blockchain itself as well. Which is why you're getting these scalable properties. Yeah. When I was learning about this. There was something really sort of mind blowing. It's just like if you really understand the coin, then you're like, oh, this is kind of a better way to do it. You know, it just with that level of efficacy or kind of the lightweight -ness of of the blockchain it just it just feels like this was built by somebody who deeply understands bitcoin and kind of what the problems are with it. So what about the technology captured your imagination why out of all the different crypto projects? Did you decide to work on this one? I came across the project a few months after after put out there, and I was kind of to the technologies kind of go into Marysville changes elements in cryptography applied publicly rather it's kind of a lot of self Brady kind of that. I like doing this kind of a technical perspective kind of enjoy coding enjoy working on it. And obviously cryptocurrencies are interesting. I was kind of looking around for one of them to join. But I couldn't I didn't really see anything out there. That was kind of thought would be worth joining the time not bump because the projects themselves are joining doing or because rather because maybe they're too far long. There's not much to look I couldn't see myself adding anything to bitcoin itself at this stage. Other pundits out there may be kind of, you know, a clone of big climate the change here and there, but nothing really substantial or when I came across a grin to me. This is really really new in some of the really have a lot of potential. So that that's kind of why I decided to to join it and start getting involved in it. And on my end, I've been following the crypto space since about bitcoin eleven dismissed but first bitcoin twenty thirteen but what always on the was always on the sidelines monitoring paying attention reading catching up project made it through twenty seventeen in all the craziness. There weren't really any projects. Now where peeling speaking to me instead, it was kind of happy being the sidelines and then about a year ago, I found out about this project about mimbo, and I basically fell down the rabbit hole. Just couldn't start stop. Researching it, and I found this, you know, there were seen presentations about the minimum protocol and that led me to grin, and I started lurking in reading up on on the project sell from seeing these developers in development community that was very open was very focused on building. And had no intentions of, you know, making money from it or or a profiteering from it and were purely in it for the technology in early twenty team that felt borderline crazy and also like a complete breath of fresh air that was really appealing to me in really encourage me to get involved in the project and at the same time as well. I was doing some research for my day job back then about bitcoin transactions and the regulatory requirements around that accepting receiving between deposits withdrawals. It was pretty much at the same time. In in had like, a profound impact on Wyatt's going to to grin was that. You would you would see these guidances regulators telling companies not in order for you to accept a payments from from customers you need to go through you need to have the deposits the come in and go through a analysis tool. Also, like third party. Can I see analysis tool like like some of the well-known actors in space in the end based on the score? You can then choose to accept the deposits or otherwise you have to refund it returned back from where you came from. And this was just mind blowing for me because essentially what this means these not used Amish kind of it's almost like a credit score. But it's about score of how good your money it. And that made me think a lot about fungibility in an whites very important to have under -bility on the base layer of the protocol in order for companies to be able to transact in a way that doesn't create a h-. Huge amount of friction. Yeah. In a way, as like, of course, you know, obviously, we do know that when there are crimes that happen with money than often the people who transact with each other are potentially both engaging and something elicit and yet on the other hand, you could also be the recipient of funds that were involved in Elissa transaction and have no idea. So, but I actually I wanted to go back in ask you to expand a little bit more on the philosophy of grin. When you were talking about how it was a breath of fresh air and and stuff like that. Because I do agree that there is something pretty different in striking really about grins approach. An I yeah, I want to kind of pull out more of what differentiates grin from some the other recent projects. Sure. So so Grimm's it was launched on January fifteen this year and before that had been in development for about two and a half years. And from the get-go it's been done as a completely open source project driven by the community funded by the community as well any any development funding received as as been bad based on the nation's there's been no I see. Oh, no pre mine. There's no death tax. There's no anything essentially that allocates funds through the protocol layer to the development team. Instead, it's it was fairly launched. Meaning that anybody who wanted could mine it I approve of work mind coin, and it's open for anybody to us, and there's no incentives on oh, no special circumstances, not benefits early early adopters early contributors more than anybody else. Yeah. We're gonna talk more about that. Because I think I do see how it's inspiring. And yet, I also think it has. Has led to some hurdles I guess I would say that you guys have faced. But one other thing I wanted to expound upon a little bit was the comparison of grin to bitcoin. And we talked about kind of some of the similarities and also some of the differences. But one thing also that's kind of different is that they seem to have different goals. Bitcoin is now being thought of as a store of value while green is aiming to become a medium of exchange. Why did the project decide upon that goal? This refers back to our our emissions schedule. Nomi what we start comparing grid amid a wing, but we have to be a little bit mindful of sorry of comparing ridden in Clement needs mindful that bitcoin was launched ten years ago and was a containing technology at the time. So so some of its original kind of survey general purposes may not have been when it turned out to be. So I mean, the paper self stated the Clinton supposed to be digital cash says it became clear that the emissions are the very limited emission schedule. You know? You know, led to these to mount of of deflation amid the story since been changed sale. Now, what's up? Now. It's the store value in our case in grin be very much. Would like, you know, as as been congress originally match to do, but we would like to be used as Abedian exchange as opposed to a store value, which is why we've decided on various simple emission schedule as one one grin for second sixty grand per block, basically forever instead of having a very Denison schedule. This is something I wanted to ask about because. So obviously, the the emission schedules seem different on the surface because bitcoin has the twenty one million bitcoin cap which incentivizes people to get a piece early like, you know, a bitcoin or a fraction of bitcoin at hold onto that. And that would then drive up the value of all the bitcoins. So grins approach is different because there is no cap, but there's this consistent inflation in perpetuity of one grin per second. But the thing is that they have the same outcome. Like overtime grins emission rate will have the same effect of the block reward having ZIM bitcoin. And what I mean by that is in bitcoin. The inflation was high in the early years were fifty new bitcoins every ten minutes. And that's when the circulating supply was low then dropped at twenty five, and it's now twelve point five soon it'll be six point two five. And then even though in grin there. No having 's the emission rate by sting constant starts out as a high percentage of circulating supply. And then eventually just becomes a smaller percentage over decades, which basically results eventually being somewhat negligible. So in that sense. That's how I'm home confused like how can grin go after this meeting of exchange goal and try to get people to use it. And and I even saw on your documentation that you believe that this monetary policy will discourage hoarding, but I don't understand how that will happen. If the affect of the monetary policies seems to me at least to be the same. Maybe there's just something. I don't understand. No, you're right. My thoughts two points. I mean, it's not so much that there's a hobby is limited number it set the inflation rate is predictable. And so we all many growing concert collection. Now, we can point thirty years. So now said Hamad they're going to be in that. So that that's really what we think the important thing is here as far as, you know, you're right. The inflation rate approaches zero basically, so you get to a point where you might not be mexic- anymore. Britain's because you know, there's basically no appreciable. Inflation going off to while. But let's be honest bonus time. This a going kind of go around saying that the Joyce in Greenwich bacon, in this regard are very conservative. And this is absolutely as far as I know the first major coin to do this as into not to have a having a not to have a limited emission schedule. So I I don't think we've had gone out there at, you know, instead, you know, traces in inflation schedule. I mean, kind of disappointing cryptocurrency development from what we're doing. Now is very very radical approach here, we hear all sorts about it everywhere, we go. So I was about to say, it's great that you the pointed out Mora in it. It really is a conservative approach and personally I would have loved to have in a more flation. But 'cause because these questions I was asking myself as well when I got him most. But the amount of I think the comments commentary on the sidelines from from people can approaching the project, I. I think the narrative has a big role to play here. And with what when grins emission schedule is quote, unquote unlimited. It has a lot of effect on people's minds in how they approach the coin of we've seen that just in the comments. I'm not sure that's gonna last game in tame itself. But it's very much. I think has this effective thinking that the green is not gonna be with much more. Everybody's sitting doomed, you know, the values go down so much which is great in my opinion in if you're trying to build an exotic cash like functionality because then people are not gonna think twice about spending it, which is really what's important in order to drive adoption. I would've loved to see like over time in a much more aggressive. But I think as Michael was pointing at this was already very radical step apparently in the space and. I think at least we're going the right direction and to to be fair to point out. I don't think it would have been possible to to have this. If it wasn't for the success of bitcoin, right in a way, we're standing on the on the shoulders of bitcoin having proven the concept of other cryptocurrency to some degree, and I don't think it would have been possible with with unlimited emission back in two thousand nine, but because of bitcoin we can now take it one step further say, right? This is in her unlimited emission is still very conservative. When other thing that I was wondering, though, is if you say centrally as pointed out the inflation rate, the the way or the emission, you know, at least yet you can push this narrative that it's going to be different from the coin. But like I said ineffective. It is pretty much the same. But the other thing is so with grin unlike with bitcoin. Well, no, actually in this regard. I guess are. Similar because somebody needs a bitcoin address. But but anyway, so to send somebody grin they have to agree to accept it. But like who's going to want to accept a new currency of the narrative is that it's going to quickly depreciate so in that regard like how do you plan? If you if your goal is to get medium of exchange, then how are you going to do that? And is there some plan to get stores to accept grin or like how you know. How are you going to make this medium of exchange goal happen? Sure. I think I think it's very early in the project life cycle at the stage where grain is only a few months old. So this is something that is going to have to take some time to to grow and mature system wells, there are right now say kind of the main use use cases are buying grins and putting them in a wallet rides or you mind, grains, mining pool your cash out from the morning pool in either to change or you put it back into your wallet. I think that those use cases are. Gonna be dominating for awhile. Now over time though, because there are there are more grins minted every every day every seconds in new green put out circulation. There's gonna be a lot of users holding a lot of grin and some businesses are gonna find that attracted in terms of speaking to like a audience where they can sell products to specific doing to us because the except great that's one one way of starting to get some early adoption another another way that will happen over time was is big enough user base. Or even the other way round. You could also be is for businesses and individuals who have needs to transact privately, and this will drive option, and it doesn't in my opinion. It doesn't matter much. Whether there's a depreciating pressure on green Asam cells. If you Mabel to transact. With them and then easily cash in routes to another currency like a bitcoin, for example. So I guess we'll see because obviously bitcoin has the most traction out of any coin. And so maybe said that could simply be the main selling point is in order to use for transaction. Is transactions is that it's like, bitcoin, but private? Yes. Roy just just pointing out there. You can say it's like bitcoin private, but we do have some, you know, technologies coming out like, for instance, geology atomic swamps with Bitcoin's that which we have. So the there is also used face of using at member when are using sorry the gridlock chain as kinda away to to further privatise bitcoin transactions in some of the transaction bitcoin than doesn't Tomek swap with grin on his back. And then there's a greater level of of privacy. There. Yeah. So let's actually talk more about the privacy feature a features of grin. What are the different ways at the protocol enables privacy? Okay. Sure. There's a few. There's a few different things first off amounts on the blockchain or completely dated transaction structure by the time. I guess blockchain is office gated or compressed, basically when I look at you, can you can try this. Now, if you look at at grant blockchain explore on you look at the data that send the in each flock. There's basically there's nothing there densify it basically site random data, and that's down to kind of the the mathematical trickery that happens with nimble. So instead of you know, having one transaction in one signature per output. You kind of have everything kind of put together amalgamated into kind of one one very compact block so to speak. When you talk also a little bit about like coin. Join confidential transactions Danta lion protocol, some of the other features. You're sure. Solving the giant line. Pro dandy lion protocol itself. I mean, stunts not specific particular that something that's kind of on top at stunts. What that does this meant to so high transaction graphs. So if I say, you know, three letter agency, and I have able to monitor, you know, a good portion of the network I can see where transactions went to our faith transaction with suddenly broadcasts wallets peers. I should have I could potentially get a good idea of what machine that transaction came from. So Dan dayline attempts to to these gate that the bit. So instead of eating when a receives transaction it doesn't broadcast to all its peers, but it will send it off to another node which will send it off to another note at random, and that's the standard phase, which was lights Danny line. So one not another another note in that random in some point one of the notable say right in the the fluff face where all day that protected are notable broadcast trans. Action to all its known peers somebody doing that you kind of Yvonne skated the path if you get a transaction your noted you gotta transaction is not necessarily obvious where it came from. And that's what did I is is supposed to do. Other features coyness kind of built into it. There's not like, you know, the coin in decline, this is different. But we kinda use use the term a little bit just kind of more for for cloudy explanation. What happens is is. Because in a member will transaction it's not about signing individual outputs. It's kind of putting all of the outputs in a single transaction together and making sure they some two zero right? So when you if you can do that, you have a notion something else it's called country, which we talked about for we kind of touched on a day earlier. So if all your inputs outputs in transaction equals zero will surely you can start cutting out some of these outputs kind of either side of the equation. So I could potentially do do a transaction that involves, you know, certain inputs, and then without any confirmation to another one another one, and I can cut out, you know, the transactions that happened in the middle on that stunts the notion of cut through and again dots that goes towards adding some some privacy. And that's like if. If I send you a payment, and let's see it's for ten grin, and then part of the inputs that were used Wesley. So how would this work? So okay. So let's say that I sent you ten grin, and then you turn around, and you sent ten grin to Daniel than essentially, what will happen is the cut through will make it look like I just sent ten to Daniel directly is that right? Cut out the middle ones as as you say, Anna gambling, Salo placate. This does not appear the chain that identifies you ties, you're particular address. So it just gives you an extra layer of observation yon, we should say their own addresses, even and the only thing that are on the chain. Are are these on Putin put some link abilities is possible to do their, you know, because you know, one one outvoting mantras action exam being used as an input of inefficient transaction, but it makes it much harder to build up about transaction graph. Especially like monitoring the network if you're if you're analysis for but it's not perfect. We have still a long long way to go and where were constantly looking to make improvements in don't feel like we're finished in terms of office skating data in making the chain more private good lane catnaps type thing. Yeah. And I think, you know, already we're like we're well on our way given what we're doing already has described. And the fact that it's enabled by default for everybody on on the chain. Saw a big a big part of privacy is hiding in crowds and amongst your peers. And because this isn't able by the fault on the core protocol, anybody using a grin is essentially making it harder for for for privacy to be leaked. Tag more about this concept of having no addresses in grin in a moment. But first a quick word from our fabulous sponsors face. It regulations can stall or kill a fast moving crypto business new f af T and e you cryptocurrency AM L laws are coming soon. You could be hit with stiff fines or blacklisted, no matter where your servers are in the world prepare now deploy the same powerful staffer trace tools used by regulators. Protect your assets, streamline your compliance programs and keep your exchange or crypto business out of the regulators crosshairs. Learn how effective anti money laundering tools help keep your crypto business safe entrusted. Learn more at cypher trace dot com slash unchained, cypher traces securing the crypto economy back to my conversation about grin with Daniel. And michael. So as you mentioned there are no addresses in grin that says yet another reason so fascinated by this technology, so how do people send each other money? Then how do I send? Rin to somebody. If I don't have an address or addresses that I call my own. Okay. So you're right. There are no addresses in grin. What all you have basically is is a wallet. Which is essentially a client here assistant for generating private. He's that give you permission to spend out. What's that are on the chain? So norger to build a transaction. There's a there's an interactive element in the protocol as than I have to send some data over to the person. I'm transacting with who has to do something to it. And then send it back amend hosted to the chain. So it's cryptographic standpoint it's known as an interactive protocol as two parties after transact with or interacting to each other rather in order to create the transaction in the the key part of that that means that this has to happen through some communications channel. But it could be any communications channel not the December in the receiver chooses to use. It could be a private. To be in a written message. It could be any form of communication that allows the center to interact with the receiver once and then the receiver to send information back to the sender in. That's not not can be finalized broadcast of shame. Yeah. This was another thing that I thought was so interesting like there's something about this architecture reminding a little bit of Email in the sense that the protocol makes the transaction possible. But then there are many ways you could execute it. So like with Email, you know, you could use your own Email server or you could use g mail and so for grin. What are the different ways in which people can execute Grinch prince actions? Okay. Well, just just a little bit of technical explanation on the the absolute simplest way to send someone a transaction in the core. Just kind of on the mimbo protocol itself is you send them a transaction or partial transaction, and this would contain some private keys that are needed in order to spend the output another important person puts that together there's that creates transactions. So that's the simplest way to do it. But dunce, obviously involves the Senate revealing private keys which causes also whether they don't do that. So in vain granite south. We don't we have something on top of that for the transactions at it. You snore signatures, and it requires one back and forth. So from the this the sender to the receiver and back in order to, you know, for either party developers Schnorr signature, so we can can put together the final signature without any one party having reveal the keys to anybody else. So the short so. From practical standpoint, what comes out of that is the shortest way to former transactions from sender to receiver center and already within the core of that we have there's a few as during that. So obviously, the kind of maybe intuitive way doing this would be by HTTP. So somebody runs a listener on their wallet and listening for for senders to send money to the Wallace directly. So that's an ACT that center. The Senate senate's requests on the responsible contain the rest of the vote agreed the signature at the center concrete the final transaction post led to the chain. We also have a method doing that by Email. So you can send a file to somebody. So you in your wallet, you generate your send file you send that to the recipient end know at their leisure. They receive it imported so to speak into the wallet. Send the result back to the center to finalize it and put it onto the chain. And again, you know, the actual number of ways, you can do this from a technology standpoint are infinite we have dozen experimental key base adopting. Okay base users can send send to other key base users on the system. So, yeah, we'll probably talking more later with what we're doing to facilitate these kinds of transactions because our approaches like I said great is trying to be prescriptive. So instead of saying, you know, provide it one way of doing these these the transaction we provide the tools to enable the community to come up with the best or most appropriate ways to perform this transaction isn't related to with paper as well. You told you could write everything down on a piece of paper and send it to somebody. They can type it all back in. But yeah, absolutely can be somewhat. The dark alley of water paper and say, you know, here's your grits. And and my, you know, part of part of the team that I'm involved with with also about the system called grim box which allows you to it. It's essentially inbox for for your grins is funny that you that you use the Email analogy before Laura so everybody gets an address, but the address is not is not stored on chain or anything derived from your privacy, and then you can exchange messages through the through a relay of servers that are federated just like E mail in all these messages are into end encrypted. So that only the sender and the receiver can actually be privy to the information of the slights it, but but it's the sensually an example of how we envisage layer to solutions to deliver different solutions of the problem of changing message information building these transactions rather than on. The core protocol layer saying this is the one way the two best do this. Instead, of course that many different approaches are experimented with Canada. What one that works? Best is going to be the love usage. And then one other thing that I was just thinking about was with dick lane. A lot of people have said that you could do kind of like fundraising for disaster recovery and stuff like that. You know, people could publicize their bitcoin address than people can just push that out. But is that like Earlier, Michael when you were talking about how you could use H E P? That's always just listening is that a way that that kind of crowd funding could happen as well using grin them. As a matter of fact, we do have except for that going for our for our own fundraising efforts believe there's a there's a nation. She dress can enable couldn't consent to their wallets. And then for this round trip communication that needs to Kurt to make a transaction happen, obviously, we know that ransomware has been a huge trend with bitcoin where they tie check, your computer, whatever and demand, you pay them in bitcoin does the setup of grin make that any either easier or harder or I'm not sure how that would affect that trend. That's the question somebody something I've I've thought about now the bumming the people have used bitcoin is rent somewhere. You know, are not as clever people in the world because using bitcoin these massive trail behind us to where you are. I'd say the minute someone tries to actually spend up be people all over the. So, yeah, I'm already sure I'm innocence. Phase I say, here's places he pianists are. I mean, they could be could be doing this to Torahs Ralph. So yeah, you could make a bitcoin difficult to track them as well sub. Nats interest is not pretty something of thought about tinge. Okay. I guess if they take control of your computer. And then yet initiate the transaction and you wanna get the computer back you would need to complete it. But then maybe it's actually worse because then since it's private the ransom where people will will like grin better than bitcoin. Actually. Yeah. I also didn't know the answer to that. When I asked him but just thinking three right now. There are many use cases for a private transactions that are maybe negative. But there was also many positive use cases for private transactions in the need for private transactions in general. And it seems like example that you raised if we've stylish that ransomware is possible today, it's widely used any works while with bitcoin. I don't think he makes a big difference to the to the spread around somewhere with grin. Maybe they which through it, maybe not. But this seems like there'd been able to to do their carry out their business regardless today, quite well. Yeah. I know it's early in the life of grin. But diva have any sense yet of whether criminals are interested in this form of money because for people who've listened to my previous episodes with fluffy, pony of minero and Zico Z cash. I did ask them a little bit about how they felt about the fact that they're cryptocurrencies did make crimes easier on. No. I mean. It's kind of like with the the defendant that criminals use cash as well. And I'm not sure what the fed thinks about that. I'm sure that is much more focused on kind of the wider economy than specific individual use cases for for for how cash is being used. I I like to think of grin as quite agnostic in that sense. And the protocol itself is not opinionated about use cases. I it shouldn't be just like cash doesn't really care how it's being used is just functional, and then the might be some individuals organizations that are using cashing away that breaks the law, and I definitely think governments in regular should care about that. But it's not up to to the transaction method self to that. Let's also. Now, a kind of apply this same thinking to the just the general uses for the technology. So we've been talking about how this protocol or grin. Requires this round trip communication to make a transaction happen and in the bitcoin worlds, or in the crypto world in general, a lot of people have talked about how legacy systems are pull technology, meaning you have to hand over your information. And then the store or whatever that once the payment from you has to contact your Bank request that that money and that pull technology is sort of prone to fraud. And then people have been talking about how bitcoin is a push technology where you control the money, and like cash, you decide when the money gets sent out from your address. And of course, then puts the burden on users to not lose their private keys. So in this case where mimbo is like different. How would you? How do you think it will affect behaviors around money, and what kinds of financial problems? Do you think could happen or you know, sort of like the push pull thing or do you think that it's sort of resolves all kinds of shoes with that actually improves on the modal with bitcoin from a practical perspective of accepting payments from users again kinda thinking context from like a from like a business one of the problems or challenges should say with accepting bitcoin is that users are prone to do a lot of mistakes by having this interactive protocol where it basically in order for you to receive green transaction you have to actively get involved in order to process, which means that it's not possible for somebody to just send money to to address of yours in the blind. Like, I should address or something you actually have to actively respond in sending formation back to the sender. Which means that it's easy to reject transactions which allows transaction flows to be more robust in a way. So you don't have this issue of some user sending address to address it shouldn't be doing. And now you have to figure out what happened in return the funds back to them or if some unauthorized person sending your cash, which might sound a bit strange. But in a lot of businesses actually are very careful about making sure that they only receive payments that they're supposed to do to receive otherwise their bookkeeping doesn't add up with grin. It becomes easier to do. So because you can basically run checks invalidates. Indeed. You're you're supposed to receive this payments and otherwise rejected any let's talk a little bit more about some of the other features of grin Sagren does not have something called scripting, which at the coin has. So what are some examples of things? You can do with scripts in bitcoin but not in grin. But then I, you know, Michael, I think also did mention now you guys still have features like atomic swaps, and I think there are a few other. So what are some of the other features that you were still able to retain anyway. Atomics is one example gum. There's something that's been kicking around in minimal circles with the notion of scrimp descript, and what that means is it means kind of cryptographic tricks that you can do to enable kinda scrimp light functionality without actually having to go through, you know, without having to include a script. So one example of that I made and again, this is all kind of radical stuff that we kind of have list for research a lot of stuff like lightning. We take them to enable that at some point after some research using scrimp a script tricks does the atomic swaps mentioned there is know time law to relative time transactions vol switch, you know, at or kind of user security, so like annoying rain like meaning if I wanted to transaction effort, I large out or something then there's a delay Bilton. So that people. Can't rob me. Absolutely. Yep. If someone tries to you know, there's a case where nobody gets the money. So there's litters there's less incentive for people to even try in the first place, and so what are scripless scripts? So I won't let's can you describe what scripting is. And then what's crippling Crips are? I think in terms of saying what script scripts are is. It's not as if there's a, you know. You know, it's a scripted script is a particular anything. It's more of a warm trick than stone to enable somebody could do as script. So for instance, that, you know, a kind of mathematical level, it would be some trickery about adding one to something using the number one kind of creative way. So I couldn't to, you know, a set of things and say these are script the script since it's very much about, you know, tricks to enable to enable scripting behavior scripting is a way of making bitcoin programmable yards. It's basically, a smart some very, basic smart contracts, functional. Yeah. Than in bitcoin. Like, I don't think it's us all extensively of the kind of the standard exchan- script stuff on you'd see a theory. You know, the biggest case per theory is to have, you know, smart contract enablement or the abilities developed, Mark contracts. Unfortunately that doesn't fit in with mental in the protocol. Because it's such a kind of. Compact form of blockchain there's no room for it anywhere. And so in the Cotonou could the notion concept of his scripts is triggered to Andhra polls who was doing the when the research early on and just basically allows you to implement some simple smart contract functionality that is of chain in a way in you. Don't need to base it. It's you don't only check signatures president, correct? And it's thrived for using snort signatures in what are snore signatures? A nor signature is is basically it's a multi multi user signature. So I can I can sign something. I can create a second chair for something and someone else can create a signature for the same thing and waking combine the two signatures. Yeah. The basically out them together to get kind of one signature that's taken from. Although a partial signatures involved. So it's it's it's how we do the basic transaction in in grid. The moment is instead of everyone reviewing private keys. I just sign apart signature with private keys another person signs part of their partial signature with the ride mckee's at put that altogether on you, can you can add the public of the companies will be able to verify the signature somebody the added private keys was the the added public keys, and it all works. If it was just one person the signature, and if you do script scripts you're basically or adopter signatures as they call it. You're basically away hacking this by putting some, you know, these signatures private information could be could be random, but you can also make you know, putting some delivered information not than can be used in your off chain smart contracting quotes, let's talk about your launch. What were some of the different features of your launch in? Why did you choose those features? So I think the notion of like a fair launch in the sense that it wasn't any pre mine or or death tax or any design around the incident incentivizing or rewarding development team. I think that was taking quite early in the project. I think a lot of it has to do with just keeping things simple straightforward and also making things fair and transparent. And it wasn't. It's just you know, way, I think, you know, the more I've been involved in the project more, I think about it. It's it's what really makes sense if if you're looking at the big picture on thinking about what the end goal is. If angle is to, you know, get funded and how small development team working on a project, you probably would do it in a different way. But if you're trying to build the almost something that could be a public good, and you want to see like big picture long game thinking and one at naval other healthy and finding eco-system as surrounding your project you need to allow equal access to getting involved in make it as easy as possible. And because there's no incentives for me to kinda I'm not getting rewarded if more people are joining the project alone as relatively I guess a relatively early user, but the somebody chooses to get involved in England today, they have the same. Conditions as I do it makes it very easy to contribute because you're not feeling when you contributing that somebody else's profiting as a result of that. And it also allows us as a group, and as a community to be very open and honest about about the project for not necessarily selling anything because we have nothing to sell. We have no upside from it either. And I think that that is great in the sense that it keeps us very honest, and it allows also community to build around the project. Well, so then how do you feel about the fact that in the end the early miners were these like special purpose investment vehicles devoted to mining grin in they were funded by I guess, people were saying one hundred million dollars in VC money shorter. I mean that may be the case I I haven't seen one hundred dollars attributed to the what I've been speaking to some groups and individuals, it seems like a lot of. Investment vehicles didn't participant in mining immediately. I don't know if they're doing it. Now, there's a lot of mining happening in China. But generally speaking equal opportunity doesn't equal that doesn't mean equal outcome. If there were we welcome ended buddy to to use grim to mind grim into participate in the project. Now, if it were a groups that felt that the project was really exciting, and they really wanted to mind grin, and they wanted to devote a lot of resources into doing that the free to do that. And I guess that's just good in general where nothing project again, we don't really think about these things too much. I don't really see it as necessary. And how did nations of fairness play a role in your decision? Have those two different consensus toward them with one of them becoming more dominant over time. Right. So so just from background. I. Before going to answer that Greenwich performed mind as we said, and there are two proofs of work. They're all from the same family of four works. Call the critical cycle family was created by John Trump while also part of the court court team grin end the we have we launched with two different algorithms to creation of of the cycle family. The first one is specifically tuned for a sick manufacturing and make it making it as easy as possible to develop a sport as specialized chips that could be at built specifically to mind grin. Exactly there are specifically to do anything. But then you can have ones that are grin. Exotic saw GP is a type of sick. But it's very generalized type of six, but you can also make specialized sick that only. One thing really really well efficiently, for example, mining this could to a secure algorithm. So that's one of the prefer works. The second prefer work is a sick resistance. Meaning that it's designed to be a more GPO friendly incentivize depew mining rather than something to develop a six four. And when we launched the reward for the Essex tuned work was ten percent and their ward Ford is resistant before work was ninety percents. Meaning that ninety percents on average of all rewards would go to the miners who are minding the GPO friendly from work and this over time at the balance here between ten percents ninety percents changes linearly up until the second once grin has a two year anniversary. It was switched to being completely hundred percent. On the ace attuned proof of work. So what we're saying is that we strapped network giving a heavier away towards the GPO friendly algorithm. And then over time that will only be rewards after two years for the ACC tuned algorithm in the logic for that is essentially that there was when when was in development, we noticed that. There was have a lot of tension being put to put to the project, and there were already we had rumors of a six being manufactured in salon. And we were worried about the the centralization of the network in a way to bootstrap the network was basically to devise this dual work system, which is only temporary in a way to increase the central. Asian. Also, not incentivize one or two big Eysenck manufacturers with a lot of resources to jump. The queue have basic minor ready from day one take control of all. The hash Palmer on the network. But instead to have a gradual increase of this a friendly proof of work, and as a result, build healthy, hopefully, hopefully, healthy a sick Akwa system where you have many different factors competing and offering parts to the market. And let's go back to of the comments made earlier about how grin does not have a Dev tax. Meaning that part of the block reward does not go to the developers. And so for instance, especially like, I know you Michael who go by the the name yeast plume you were trying to raise funds for at pay for your time on developing grin from the community. And I saw that at first at least the campaign was not going very, well, you weren't even trying to raise like a huge. Of money. And I think it was like was it fifty five pounds per year. Sorry fifty thousand pounds a year. Variant a the rates actually the where we're using house about nine thousand euro so testing around ten thousand USD would be our standard, but with lovey standardized on month of developers time. Yeah. Yeah. And. Kids includes taxes we have to pay zone. It's like a the salary payment. Basically go. Oh, yeah. And at first I think you only raised like roughly a fifth or something and then ignored sorry. Keep going. No, you're you're right about that. That was that was also the fourth time the fourth campaign as well. So I mean, I I've been working fulltime grant since about two February of last year, and since then I've done four hundred campaigns all of which were successful some of them in the first film in the height of the the bitcoin bumble. So everyone was feeling about tonight. And I may not campaign funded in about in today's the next one bit longer than the longer the last one which was done just around launches it stalled a little bit. But also, the there are a lot of companies out there who to support great over the long term as in, you know, put a mining pool might decide to give a donation of the proceeds into the grim general development. I think a lot of that. Was being set up as well at the same time. So tonight communities been absolutely great, very, supportive and has have allowed me to be able to to work on this phone time. But actually because that one at fundraising attempt, at least did not go very, well, I know that it notice wrote a post expressing his or their disappointment with the lack of funding for for your work, and they also agreed and the creek community. But I just wonder, you know, another looked at another way could also be seen as a problem of incentives. And I like do you feel like if he were to do it again, would you try to raise funds at different way that kind of harnesses incentives more care? I don't think trying to I don't think raising monies inherently evil or structuring yourself in such a way that that you know, injecting capital into your project. Terry wanna do is not necessarily a bad thing. As a matter of factors may conceal out. It's challenging to do things the way we were doing. But I mean, this wouldn't necessarily be true for all projects that Dino ever work on ever, but in this case, drain. I mean, it's the first implementation mimbo, and we thank if you know, if the product is run in such a way that it's it's obviously to benefit a small group of people, even if it's just you know for a. You know, supposedly, Justin. Hey developers. Nothing else. It's still kind of diminishes from the notion of grim, but mommy to everybody. If there's a depth tax N, developers are only paid out of the debt tax defense incentive for other developers to come along enjoying know make contributions as you tune open-source project because you know, they're all getting paid out of it. I'm not why would I do this? So it's it's challenging is not the only answer. But it is. I mean, it's the one that grin. It's kind of the Greenwich Osen and we intend to stick to yon. I mean, I've been kinda call the fanatical incredibly naive when when I say, but the way of thinking about it. I don't really see another way of doing it. That's make sense, essentially, I think this is hard. We're we're not we're very frugal which also think is a good thing and raising money in a different way. While you solve the funding problem, perhaps you also open up the door for a bunch of other problems. As Michael was saying other developers might be less incentive is to join if they're not getting paid Howdy allocates funds. How how do you handle all this administration of it's one thing we have some administration now for the modest funds of receiving the nation, but he becomes a complete different game. If you having hundreds of thousands or millions even of dollars he's supposed to administer in do it in the right way hotting ensure that funds get allocated to the right place that they're used efficiently. And that all of this ultimately is actually benefiting your long term goal. It's it's not obvious. And I don't think actually it's been proven in the space that having more money yields to better results. I haven't actually seen a single example of after the stage yet, this is one of those things where when you look at it one way, you know, you can see kind of one side, which it another way you. See the other side. I definitely. Maybe because you know, we we've seen that socialism. Maybe hasn't worked out super well and a lot of places, and maybe it's because going up here in the US, you kind of see like, okay. Here's how capitalism works, and you sort of think. Okay. It works. Well, but at the same time, you can live in a capitalist society, and sort of kind of be into minimalism and be like, well, I don't want to buy a ton of things all the time because that's not a very satisfying way to live. So I just I look at it. And I kind of go back and forth. You know, I do. And there is something. I it's like, I don't wanna talk. I don't wanna mention who this person was. But it was talking with somebody about see cash and about the the developer rewards that that they have. And you know, that person kind of had of you that was like negative on the creators. Earning money from it. And I was a little bit confused at first I just thought well, they created they should be rewarded. But I know what you're talking about. If you're trying to build something that's for the community. It's just that. Like, I said when I see also that then you struggle a little bit to raise funds for the development. It just makes me wonder well, could it have been done better? But anyway, as for your points, I actually wanted X expound on that a little bit more you decided not to do a foundation for the governance of grin. Why not and how do you guys plan a govern grin? Royden? So so one of their league Confucius, I did was to have a look at foundations into research around at seen what the use cases full fundation. Our holiday applied to grit in the context, and whether we we should have on as it was going forwards. I couldn't really find any compelling arguments to why would need a foundation, especially if you're trying to be the centralized there. I think the main point was to protect the trademark to have a an entity that registers trademark protection. We didn't see any point four study. And otherwise, I don't really see that they use as an official undoing these quotes again, but like his official from nation. It becomes the centralizing entity which now needs administration on organization in the Bronx for it. And then this centralized foundation is going to be making decisions in even if you on these. Support fund projects. You're you're effectively you're doing union taking these decisions, and it creates structure where I'm not sure it actually adds any benefit in the research. However, we did conclude that in foundations great in the sense that if other people wanted to put together information and say, you have a passionate individual on the really wants to further win the government and say, hey, I'm gonna put together a grandpa. They should now the structure on I'm gonna give it a grant handouts money to development projects center, I'm targeting win. That's great. We encourage encourage many foundations to be founded on the principles. However, they won't be official foundation and rather instead on how Hollick grin wins governance has volt has instead been from from having just ignored as the main founder individuals group entity bunch of robots. Really knows who notices or on buds. Now. Also, having a technocratic council that essentially was created for the main that the main purpose was to manage the motivation keys, winner funds. The nations are being kept to censor them. Only start accepting donations funds. You create a layer of hierarchy. I think it's way Neville. You. Can't do it in a different way side few you start like going into, you know, governance research like distributed autonomous organization, salon which I think is very much when proven very difficult where we wanna stay focused on really working on grin and not trying to complicate things. So so instead, there's this subset of individuals nine nine people. Michael, I apply that are part of initially was part of managing. The case. But the general way of how governance decisions are being made today is a very transparent fat fashion where we have biweekly meetings. So every other week there's a development rather than meeting and the other week, there's a governance focused meeting and anybody's free to add points to their gender, and these will be discussing the meeting, which is are happening marketer. Chats. Everybody's free tool to to join in and points are discussed them that end decisions are being made out in the open, transparent fashion and that philosophy. I think in general is to just keep things minimal minimum transparent and open as far as we can for as long as we can. And if there's no reason to change it. We wouldn't want to do that. Array. So let's close out with one last question since launch which was not that long ago. What are some of the things you guys have been working on? And what can we expect from grin going forward? Sure. A little bit earlier. But we're trying to do is is support the community in building tools on top of grin. So from from my perspective anyhow during a lot of work on the the Wallops suffer itself. But rather than trying to create, you know, the nicest author as I'm spending all my time focused on putting out or a Senate tools for other developers pickup and builds their their fancy gooey wallets on top of so in one sentence very much support the community, you know, let them come up with with sedition to some of the problems. They talked about that experimental Sima happens from there on top of that I may have some of the additions to the core protocol, the we've talked about, and I kinda described as very kind of carefully considered introduction of new technologies into grim because while we have a long list things that we think we know how to do that we can't guarantee, you know, when we're going to kind of have all the other research worked out in order. Today, so naval. So when we kind of Sony measurably adding features to to the core grin protocol as they go one of the things I'm very much excited about his recent. Work by notice to see the explore the potential of item P integration onto Grandin. Support more anonymous. Of. Yeah. Yeah. I think you guys have a very very very interesting projects. So we will have to check back in to see what happens. I will think you both so much for joining us today where can people learn more about you and grin? If you wanna learn more about Gwen good start this on a website grim. Dash tech dot org. There's also a grin newsletter every week that curates, and if you wanna which to me, you can always sell via key base or Twitter at landmark in my county. Have a Twitter handle have earlier. Maybe at boom is by Twitter handle again, if somebody wants to find mates very easy to do. So the through to the gator channel or or the forum anything anything related, I should be should be defined me. There. Anyhow Yano should also have that, you know, chip questions wanna find out more about grin joined the channel that community is very welcoming receptive for anyone. Getting. Great. Well, thanks so much for coming on chained. Thank you think. Similar joining us today. Learn more about granite Daniel. And Michael check out the shadows. Inside your podcast player. If you are not yet. Sign up for my Email newsletter code unchained podcast dot com right now to get my thoughts on the top crypto stories of the week. Plus, a preview of exclusive podcast content and be sure to check us out on YouTube. I'm changes produced. I me Mauritian with help railing. Polly proxy recording Jenny jobs. Senate Daniel Ness and Richard struggling, thanks for listening.

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Howl's Moving Castle - I want to Lettie you in

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Howl's Moving Castle - I want to Lettie you in

"Welcome friends and lovers to the final and Fifth Course in reference Daego station of May Zakim. Masterpieces OOH LA. Four chef kisses or around Thank you thank you. Thank you Just to quickly Give a quick summary of the reference Diaz Station. We started off with a very palatable. Spirited away We also had PORCO Rosso or what he likes to call me. The scarlet pig on a Friday night We also moved into the next pairing of Princess Monarchy and also paired together with Norsk Valley of the wind and now we get to the light creamy Dreamy Delicious House moving causal all year. It is all sir Alf Fiftieth episode. I T- It is also the same week that we started our podcast one year ago one year. Yeah Gar and we also just hit two hundred ratings worldwide on Apple podcast team whose spoilt we already Recorded this blue cheese so I just wanted to give a shout out. I just wanted to say thank you so much to everyone that has loved maybe not loved But definitely supported. Us along the way. I thought the moss you I'll sense as forever all yes indeed hot dog. Let's get onto the sharp. Hey friends and lovers welcome back to four year reference. You've got your hands K T T and secure your hearts and work on your own sense of self because today we are covering house moving castle otherwise known as how. Goku she'll wow right you didn't think. Katie me is I was in the building but She is clearly we've also got. Ot Jerome Tarantino in the house to as you know these amaze. I can masterpieces. So we've got him at the helm for this film. We've got the strength of the Jew word. That is followed us all along this menu. We've got Joe Hisashi with the music. Wow Wow and we will definitely get into that as well. Let's just quickly go through the stats. It was released in September of two thousand and four and it premiered at the Venice Film Festival. The budget was twenty four million. We'll keep you out because the worldwide gross was two hundred and thirty six point two million. You will never be ugly. You'll have all of the persons to keep those bag pretty much and dog right so let's get into the actors. Interestingly enough We actually watched the English dub which is the first that we did in this particular series. you would have listened to the episodes. I've I've pretty much watched all of the English dubs growing up into my earn Hohmann Hood but in this particular ceres. This is the first English that we watched very interesting. But let's go through the Japanese cost. I at least for the main characters playing how we have Cammarata Toco and playing sophie. We have by show Chico. So you won't notice in the American English sort of dubbed version. We do have two people playing sophie but in the Japanese version. We just have the one voice actress and just a little call out. Just a little Reference if you'll pardon the reference Playing the which the ways is milwaukee hero who plays Moro from princess-mononoke so they are the qualities of the comparisons a mate and the references made as well If we're going to go quickly through the English costs we have the episode creamy episode dreamy. Christian Bale Yes yes. Yes and all the places after he saw spirited away he wanted to be involved in anything. Oh I wonder what kind of method acting you went into preparing for this role. Speaking of method acting he actually he actually recorded this just before he did Batman also. Another interesting tidbit. I have read the book. So let's give all of us time for me to pull my glosses op. We will never hear the end of it. You know. And I've got glasses in the most pleasurable of places. Don't you worry? In the film there are different dials and it takes you through different portals with the door it house moving castle and there's a black door it doesn't really hurt too and I definitely want to talk about the ambiguously But for this particular fun fact in the book it actually goes back to House. Herm land. Which is Wales. Ooh And as the timeline would allow Christian. Bale is also Welsh Full is from Wales. Like if that's what you WANNA call it. I'm from Australia I did am. I already knows I'm everyone's Lucapa ndas wet dream. That's a neighbor's reference. Friends in love is what some ozzy shows every now and again you also in the English. 'cause like I mentioned we have Emily Mortimer Oh oh. She was pure quality She was pure quality and then we also have gene simmons who voices grandma's Urfi and she is perfect as well issues. I think it made sense to have two different Voice actresses and this was gene. Simmons loss feature film so rest in peace also resumes to Diana Wynne Jones. I did not know all of these that I've loved house moving causal. I didn't know that there was a book and I only just recently Read it over the Christmas holidays But she passed away as well. But before this film actually premiered Miyazaki actually went to England in the summer of two and four to give a private showing to Diana Wynne Jones. Yeah even though. It wasn't released like a year later. What's pretty cool? Yeah it is pretty cool. But Yeah we'll definitely go through the tidbits and that sorta stuff. Don't you worry kids? We own our knowledge repository is. I'm debate so I've got that open but I've also good reads open. I'm running out of glosses to pull up our tape. But what what a film. What a film in Dade again. Thank you guys so much training in and sticking with us in this referenced gas station what a great time what a way to round out fifty episodes. We are going to go to if you if you are. Wink is like us. And you go to a station. They usually have like tasting notes otherwise known as themes are. Let's go through it. We've done it for off for other movies so this will be quite a robust Sort of analyzing cross sectioning everywhere. So the first theme that we have is planes slash flying so just quickly. Miyazaki's father built Pottsville planes so not just not just that but also the innovation of putting people in the air is quite extraordinary. So how do you feel? That fame went with house moving. Causal Oh yeah got mad like we had ed shapes lying castle so it was a moving cost another flying cars moving flying. That's that's a la put castle in the Sky. May Aid definitely was man in this. We had all different subtle flying contraptions in the air definitely It was quite interesting because usually the flying sort of element that may Zaki has an. His films are usually like an escapism. It's usually a way to fulfill that inner sort of childlike nature. That you have inside of you but I feel like plane slash flying in house. Moving costs was kind of not used for good. If that makes sense yeah most of them were bomb ships yes it was kind of just useful destruction and even with HAL flying. He was used as like a soldier in the army so even when he was flying it wasn't a whimsical SORTA thing. It was like taking down villages. Essentially the foster. I'm she he was flying them so feel. It's him to be quite fun. Even though he was running from which of the waste I guess but when you compare it to like spirited away for example the flying with cocoon is very different to flying with hell so it. It's it's it's interesting. I also mentioned in the know. Ska SORT OF EPISODE. Like the age of the protagonist kinda denotes to the maturity of the themes so I guess that whimsical nature was Kinda gone. It makes sense because you know. We'll get into sophie as a character but she you know she. She wasn't sucking the mirror out of life. So yeah but you know what I mean like to have a fully realized and happy sort of film wouldn't have made sense with her at the helm in rate so let's dive into the next thing because it's not necessarily happy either antiwar yes it's all covered. I think In the fact that they're fighting a war which they don't really know why they're fighting in the first place I know they're looking for they're seeming. A kingdom has taken whole stage or kidnapped Ah Prince which is later to find out it's tiny head bought. It's all a bit embiid girls to the reason why it's fighting. Even the resolution of the wall seem to be too It's it'd be weird like definitely the comments in there in the movie about how the wall was stupid and the false place so yeah. There's definitely some antiwar themes in here. And that's also an interesting thing Spoiler spoiler spoiler. And if you want to read the book also spoiler spoiler spoiler because there are quite a lot of things that remains from the book Obviously if you have a book that has hundreds of pages you're not going to be able to fit everything into like a two hour movie for example However I did feel like it kept the essence of the book. A lot of the scenes that you see In the film actually are from the book like when calcified Pretty much like curses the Bacon to burn That's also in the book. How being so distraught that he copied beautiful anymore. That in the book as well So you have quite a lot of moments From the book and you do have the essence of that despair that Sophie has and also how childish Howley's I thought he was a bit more childish in the book and we can come to that And more examples. I already said spoilers Guess what Sophie was a witch in the book really. Yeah Yeah I guess it's also because in a book there's more space to breathe as well I guess while we're staying in our learning Katie cyclope in the book. There's actually two sisters Is letty who we see. And there's also Mafa And there's there's this perpetual quite sophie has an. I think it's like the first paragraph of the book where Sophie says. If you're the oldest of three children you'll the first one to make mistakes. You'll the one that will make the most mistakes and you won't get the best fortune which is very sad but she assumed that sort of role. I think a lot of how Sophie was feeling in the film was conveyed through the book. So if anyone felt any sort of disconnect about sophie as a character Our employees to read the book and book obviously can give you more details as well Yeah but birth of the sisters. The mom is actually her mother-in-law. A young strapping. Can you call home in strapping or is that more of a man thing by? There's nothing stopping of from being strapping economy. Handsome woman all the time and we all Miss Woken. That's actually her mother-in-law who Pretty much is as airy-fairy as she is in the film but there is. There's there's definitely a lot more depth Like I mentioned the black Portal is going back to Wales. And how has like a whole family? And there's like a whole subplot incident. Yeah and I guess that was sacrificed to make room for the antiwar sort of messages. Because I don't know I don't know because I've I've watched house moving costs like fifteen times but it felt so disjointed now knowing everyone's aware of like the anti war sort of messages that Miyazaki has but I felt like it felt so stock in this film. And it's weird. It's weird to watch something after reading a book. Or maybe it was the English dub that threw me off Dr but I was feeling things and we will definitely get into that as well. Markle in the English dub was actually also in the Japanese. He was named Michael in the book and he was also a teenager and he fell in. Love with Martha was awful. Yeah Oh with the sister that doesn't exist so again it's just like simplifying the storyline but they were witches as well. But you know that's a little bit of a back story if you WANNA have like a reference rates which not and I keep talking about having a little book club. I think that'd be quite cute to have especially American Gal gods so sad so sad Let's move into the next thing that we have is environment. I don't really think it gets covered in this film. Not Really Bob. We get a lot of landscape shots which is sort of gray. The beautifully drawn Sophie stake into this Ohio makes Soviet sort of area which is beautiful house alone flowers in the book as well yeah so inasmuch as the environment and environmental issues already covered. At least we're showing some appreciation of it. Yeah but you know you'll grasping at straws now I'm grasping at straws. Bought it still sort of loosely. Because what makes how. How's moving customer really beautiful as this sort of leads showings and the landscapes in the detail that they've actually even gone to to make everything. Look so beautiful so in as marches. No one's holding up signs out there claiming about climbing change. At least we're shown the full appreciation of the world. We're living in the sort of Beauty it can behold and. That's actually quite interesting i. We've this fifth episode Sir Pot in all my life. I've mentioned this before but Miyazaki started off drawing landscapes and he was very good at it and obviously if you've witnessed an immerse yourself in any of his films that is quite a parent right But he always had trouble drawing people. Obviously he's you know he's evolved Since then but I thought that was quite an interesting soda. Call out but that's why there's so much Focus on the landscape. It's not just like during the like little dodgy brushes in the background. You know what I mean so it really takes on. Its own sense of life But however this is at the gas station and I will have to pull rank on your T. and say that that's not Mitt cool was just trying to you. Know Britney home a bit. That's absolutely fine. You'll be fine with the next thing. The next theme is female leads slash kids. Oh we have a lot in sophie. She's not really much of a child. She's still quite young. She in the book she's just under or about to hit eighteen. She's like seventeen in the book or young adult But yeah she's quite the protagonist in this. We feel like we can all resonate with Sophie. How she feels because most of our so we have some of all load times you know so it's not something that's completely removed from Hollywood feel Yeah and there's also a lot of young people especially Markle who's he's an understudy to howl and yeah the fact that he's a young adult in the book and is Falling Laviola people. That's completely different for me. Now it makes sense because again in a book you have more time to brave And you can allow to have a bit more complexity. I did feel like the story was clear cut but then they will also elements to this film That weren't necessarily You know it was kind of oil and water at times and that breaks my heart because for a lot of times I never put on like a critical soda. Lens in regards to house moving cost. It was always just my escape film but it might have been reading the book in might have been the English dubs. But I'm starting to see it differently. Which is very interesting. But again dern ask me to rank these films x my heart eight you in the solstice but it is interesting and I guess we can talk about how we feel about it. You will be pressed to know that. I'll probably rate them all ten by Christmas time. You can all come and fight me in Japanese and in English But yeah so. Sophie is quite an interesting character. And there's definitely a lot of layers to peel off in regards to her after we go through these themes Because yes she. She was very humid. She really feel look at a lot of Miyazaki characters they kind of existed to serve the story but I really felt like Sophie got in the way of the story which is like sometimes. That's all life is right. Yeah true like sometimes you have those friends and you want them to just see what you see but they aren't. You know what I mean and Sophie was kind of you know the one to get an earn way. So that was quite interesting so development and something that you couldn't really Explore in spirited away for example. Yeah so that so the maturity and the complexity of the theme start to come out A bit more as well so female lead double tick and all the Dick's the next thing. We have is ambiguous between good and evil. How who I'd say. Yes it's met in Tom Sawyer. We have the which of the waste. Who's Badeah Evil Star even felt like because we talked about in Princess Mononokai? We also talked about Ca- Shawna in no Scott and we talked about how they were Sir Evil and then they became so resolute. I feel like which of the waste takes the cake in regards to that aspect we know hustle purpose of living was to have halls heart right and I think what will you which is weird an explanation because I think in the movie they sort of say that it was quite pretty and then I think house do star and then lost interest something each other. Yeah So yes maybe how was some sort of playboy. I Dunno but yeah I guess maybe he was a soul. She's she's she's corned from our point of view and she's just changed. She's she's a product of him being a player on the poor say patrol. That's an inbetween is reference which will definitely get to One of these days. But yeah the wicked witch of the waste it just. It didn't make sense but then again Mike. Sometimes you watch anime and like the arch enemy becomes like their best friend like I just. I can't explain it. I'm sure there's an actual like term for it or even in like we love Naruto and I think we've mentioned in all of these episodes but you know you have characters that like seriously trying to kill you but then you'll like best friends at the end of it. You know what I mean and I'm sure there's a term for this but it whatever that term is that was applied with which of the ways because in no other world doesn't make sense to just allow Harian. Well she's been stripped overpowers. Guess that's pretty much all. She's still cause damage. She does cause damage but she she does feel and she does understand the law between Sophian Hall and at the end of it she gives Kalsi fallback so it's not like like she's completely gone. She's completely broken. Bad really which of the waste. Heisenberg while I will. I will stop mentioning the book but this is quite a big one. This is a hawk in the book. You know how they talk about a prince. That's missing and then in the book there's also the Kings `brava missing so you have two men that are missing right. She took part of them. She took body parts of them and she was building the perfect human and she wanted to have how to put house head on that perfect human okay but it was interesting. It was interesting made sense in the book the I think they just tried a painter in like a more sympathetic solo of light in May Zakim film because it. If she done what she had done in the book she couldn't have been best friends with them at the end. You know what I mean. I guess that's why we saying this is one of the major themes in that movie because he's trying to depict as known is inherently just bad or good you know it's it's all nuanced and guess it makes sense for him to kind of adopt it from the Book Lot Way So I haven't caused because that's just his thing and I guess it's sort of. It's sort of message where people can change and you can talk to them. Educate sort of reach out. And now I'm I'm a I'm a Kara. Like once you piss me off you out of my life mate you lasted so long you must have a cheek. Kurt or some shit or do so. Yeah the ambiguity. Between Good and evil I think I think was plagued with quite a lot in this film. Like even that the star people were talking about how well and how he ate young ladies hot and that sort of thing. Come and fight me. I want to talk about the book again Yeah they talked about him. Stealing Ladies Houghton thought that in terms of not just seducing them and then that's what it comes on interest that's what it ends up being so he makes who fall in love with him but then as soon as they fall in love back he loses interest. But I'm Bam Bam bound bound you. Reckon yeah these squiggling little love hot on your notebook at school or yeah. Yeah because it's quite interesting because at the end of it which which I feel like I'm just realizing this right. Now are the end of the movie where we have sort of Sophie going back into House Childhood and saying the sort of regions and telling how that remind me come fund me later. Yeah I think that makes sense now that they'll all bound to. You know how was always looking for Sophie so unle- until so found him and realized he was just an empty shell of a man. And I'm going to bring up the book again. Take a shot. You're going to be on the floor by the end of it. Friends and lovers thought when the soldiers were calling her a little mouse and how she is that was actually held in the book. Who seems a bit pervy? Didn't that maybe that's why maze ocoee chose to not make him and he's like sweeps in like saves her but that becomes a big. Merman in the book where it's like. You didn't notice me when I first talked to it on. I mean like those sorts of things and there's a lot of exposition about her not feeling good about herself which I want to spend a lot of personal time on But let's be one. The next theme is one of my most favorite themes. And I'm sad that we have to hang it up for me as ocoee whenever we do next year's Daego station. I WANNA PUT. This came in as well just for. Shits legals. Pigs Nano pigs loose make well. You wanted to say that environment was this so I will put my case forward to say there was bacon being. Does that counselor clutching at straws. Your well a gals gotta try right So yeah I guess so far for environment and pigs. We have element okay so the last theme that we have before we go into general sort of discussion of the film is whimsical slash fantasy. All off cost. Yes yes yes. Yes yes We have a moving castle. We have sort of Majdic wizardry which craft they have a castle which teller pasta different dimensions. Where they're pretty much hiding because the the hiding from which of the waste by moving all the time but yet again have a portal making them available everywhere. It's anything and everything. Yeah Yeah but I think that also on one hand you could say that that's an ex- markinor and it gets them out of every situation but in other cases it can also denote to house overwhelming power. Yeah it was a very strong Wisit Hillary's from wizard. And guess once you give your heart to a demon fire then get all the powers in return. And that's an interesting sort of fame isn't it? But those themes that we have. I also want to add in regards to the whimsical slash fantasy. It also is whimsical because it is a visual visceral experience of what it's like to enthrall yourself and also fall in love. Yeah like It's so beautiful. Told her and I feel like most of US watching this. We pretty much resonating from Sophie's soap sort of point of view. Because like you're explaining it seems like hall is a completely different sort of person in the book. And he I think he's just more whiny and unfortunately Christian bow wasn't whispering in my a house radiant so I just read it as you guys is just the ultimate Pussy Dryer sorta voice creature. Yikes I saved by the bell reference. Yup and it'll be all asu stickiness fifty episodes reference by the belt so they you guard co indeed and their space it will remain friends and lovers show but it is. It is a very interesting Sold a story. I also felt like reading the book. The romantic sort of elements weren't as pronounced and they didn't resonate as much as shing the film but I think that's more may as a consumer We've talked about this in a couple of episodes but I really allow myself to indulge in the school You know in some cases it can inform me. What the scene is supposed to make me feel But a lot of the Times. It accentuates the happenings inside of the same. I think wants the movie started. We introduced to this beautiful music. And Yeah I Drawn into that it makes me want to like absorb everything that's happening which I do. And it's so subtle and makes you want to not only concentrate and feel whatever it is happening on the screen but it just brings up emotions in you that you never really thought that an move relax would elicit right. It's like you know how people like say like sexist cool but blah blah blah. I'll be like therapy is cool but have you listened to a journalist. Ashi joint lot bloody hell could could could picture myself in my nine to five listening to the howls. Moving costal sound truck back-to-back without losing a beat ingest completely concentrating. Whatever the hell do you use it? I use it to sleep. I'll say use that to read the book But the main theme that they have in house moving castle It it it makes me think of like a ballroom like similar to like beauty and the beast Yeah Disney is its own thing and Miyazaki is its own thing. Don't call it the same thing. I'll come and fuck invite you. I'll also punch your mother in the process. Okay let's make that very clear But it felt like you're in a ballroom and you're in your most extravagant of dresses All suits and you were dancing with the one that you've been waiting to dance for all night. Oh but the music was delightful. Kim effective like we said in all lost episode where we felt like they missed to be toward this call but with halls moving costs. I think this is one of my favorite 'cause I think on a morning spirited and we all know this train station. Nope spirited away is completely just on a different level Like I think that's one of the best period knocking on. It's just the best. Oh Wow okay okay and then okay. Ot Connie halls moving is a very close second like if you had to rank them otherwise. Birth great paces. It's Oh and it's an interesting thing it'll be very interesting to he someone with You know sort of musical sort of background in sort credentials. Actually explain this but the way that I feel it in the smallest resembling I have of hot. Is Spirited. Away really is women's equality in every sense of the word house. Moving Causal School. Is it sweeps you off your feet but you still no way. You are in the world here if that makes sense it's like an auto body experience that grown love motherfuckers. It's like an auto body experience bought with spirited away. Completely swept out of your. You don't even know where your body is. Can I get another body now? Ten Dog Bo Body Mate Bo body. That's an office reference. Ot Creed Bratton. You're the creative this podcast. You're the one with Iot blogs I tell you. It's the twitter but really you're just riding on Microsoft word. I don't everyone thinks fake. You did that all on your own. Say Back to the film. Oh but the score is everything and you know like heartfully. We get to a space where we can Twenty four seven talk about film and TV shows but until then we all still images in many other ways as well But when you start to watch film and as he starts to indulge yourself at least for me personally I didn't really pay much attention to anything besides the director right but there's a whole team behind that and what encapsulates in that is also the soundtrack and also the music that is composed for that specific moment if I may be so bold even succession like this accession. Tv shows opening theme is fully dramatic and movers. And you've got so much tonality to it. Oh so I guess this is just Katie's little journey on the ball. Levada Birkin references that I'm starting to urban myself up to understanding that it's more than just the creators You need people to help. Drive that vision for show and it's interesting. It's interesting with house. Moving costs will did. Is there anything you wanted to mention about first impressions or how you felt overall about this film? No this was the foster my watch the English dub because PVC wasn't it I think the last three I watched was the Japanese version. So it's interesting. I think the voice actors were pretty good. I enjoyed it more than I expected I would. I would say that. This is the best voice acting for any maze. Ocoee film that has an English. Dub everyone just played their parts so well And I think it also had to take time for shallow. Selassie data who helped and is the executive producer for a lot of The Ghibli sort of translations. Because you know there's a certain amount of respect that you need to have for the craft to stop fucking tinkering with it right. The character development on Lacerda is primer from completely chopping Norsk to allowing the films to be there so that definitely deserves credits definitely way it is. You're let's get into Surfie as a main character. I think I loved solving than you did. I did but she was like two real like in the last episode. Funnily enough we recorded just yesterday No SCA right. She was too perfect right and it's her fault like she's royalty so obviously she had that silver spoon in a mouth and other places right so that makes sense. It makes sense that she hasn't gone through the struggles of the common sort of. Firkh right But it it kind of takes away from her generous sort of nature because it's kind of out of obligation right and then you have sophie someone that you know the interesting thing about Sophie as we talk a lot about characters you know accepting the world and the role that they play in the quickest thing I could think of was the boys with Huey If you've got Amazon or if you don't Jeff Basil's go and contribute to him and get Amazon because the boys is more Tillis Yasser but yeah you have characters that like waste Sir Mush fucking time being like. Oh this is right. This is how it should be technomic. Let's move on. Let's actually get. Let's get to the meaty part of the story because you're wasting my time. It also denotes to her her sense of self and her lack of self worth which I think was quite side but you know come come and tell us if you have a different experience but like he said we all have times where we just don't feel adequate you know and that that's kind of the space with Surfie was operating in the book or even in the film you see her sister or sisters moving on and having a life and she chose to say hat chopped while his step. Mom just went gallivanting around. I guess all she's ever been was hotter and she didn't know anything else. She didn't think she was a previous lady and everyone was giving. Levy all the attention. And you know I. It would play with anyone's mind totally so I completely just understood wishes coming from and I I give all the graces like she didn't really think you'd have anything more especially our relationship with how dollars's because I targeted beautiful and she did not see herself as even when Larry was like. Are you floated? Maybe was how and she. She was like no knowledge he only goes beautiful galls. There was so many moments in the film where she just didn't feel enough when how was being such a Brat about his head changing different color. you might say that. She made it about a self which she kind of did anyway. Sophie was like. I've never felt beautiful once in my life. I fucking felt that man like I fucking felt. How dare you did? I get it. Not How the deck you VLADA? Cry Your Ears Cheese Carla. And don't feel pretty anymore gorgeous when she never even felt that at all as she never even considered a future with how because she wasn't on the level that he would be with. Yeah and that's why. The costs lasted so long because he never really understood. We need to talk about the curse. We definitely need to talk about the curse but I feel like those very opportune rain. She felt so upset and as soon as she ran outside there was rain as she could cry in the rain again. I I haven't watched the notebook. This might be another surprise to you but ot watch the notebook by yourself or with your sister with my sister and by myself so was it a blue movie not this listen some low score episode which he should have done away already because this is a station menu friends and lovers but I felt that like her not feeling like she was enough. I fucking felt that I heard that with a bullhorn and I guess this is where you can sort of tie in our poker also Especially Marco ways plays. Can we do that? Because Marco is also sort of bottomed with guilt and he's completely different for the 'cause you know yes yes him feeling all the guilt and keeps him that way keeps him seeing himself as a pig him transforming into a big whereas we have Sophie. Who really doesn't feel like she dissolves the sort of love. Or She's pretty you know. And this cost stays on because hustle. Wath is quite low and she was never she was never set up to succeed really in regards to how she feels about itself Her mom passed away when she was young. Her father remarried to this hot little toddy and she never really got a chance to feel good about herself and again like I feel that one hundred percent and the interesting thing is because a fucking love. You're not we've been together for like ten years but you know especially during those long distance times like washing house moving castle like it just it. It made me feel like I wanted to feel love for the first time again. You know what I mean. Does that make sense? So you know even though you're happy in your in love if you If you're missing is often film. That conveys all of the messages. It wants to a can completely. Just destruct your frame of Reference Right. 'cause I'm happy and I'm well fed and I'm very satisfied and all the ways But watching this film like even like spirited away and on some extent with the School of House weaving causal. There is that overwhelming sense of like loneliness at any point in time. This happiness. That you'll feeling is going to be taken away from you and that that also is conveyed in one of the final scenes where you have. How gifting the garden to her and she keeps saying why do I feel like this is goodbye and again? That is some real shit and she was right. Howls saying trying to say goodbye. Yeah because he was. He said that he didn't need to run anymore. which is completely I think watching this and realizing just how much the sort of Effect people have on each other especially when it comes to Soelvi. Emotional state is quite low others point and she doesn't really see us off in any sort of Redeeming light and the Falkland. She has all multiple positive effect on everyone that she comes across. She doesn't feel that she doesn't feel like call safe off. Pretty MARCH OBEYS ENDOWS. Whatever on straightaway which is rare mermaid. We pretty much told. Allots doesn't happen Michael falls in love with. Yeah like I think. It was like two or three moments where she where. He's like dirt. Leave so she she. She has this effect on people and she just doesn't see that. But you know back to the parallel that your during earlier. She is very similar to marker from Boko Koro. So in the sense that the spell can be disenchanted from her earn volition right and that's an interesting sort of thing because you see her going back even to her brown hair was she's. Outta most vulnerable even when she was talking to Solomon Right She really laid everything back. We also see how being cre- Oh we throw and it was watching a sleeping and that's when she was at amherst vulnerable again right and that was quite interesting In the book Howell actually makes a note of it that he actually tried undoing the spell many times while she was sleeping and he managed to do it to the fact that she was young again but she still had the grey hairs. If you notice it's only when she super vulnerable that it becomes Brown but even when she's feeling her love of loves it still great so I guess you could also symbolize that to her not wanting to get hurt in the process of loving someone else. So she's she's it's like a God love I guess so. Baugh guess I took it more as Mogae because its effects and stuff like remember when Which of the waste sent over the last And then it made a Soviet mark on the table and how sort of removed it yet. And then when the halls. Oh It's gone in house like all not really inasmuch as I've just movie the magic is still there and I thought was sort of what they're trying to like foreshadow when it came to bring him to sophie that inasmuch as the cost is gone or wow well sometimes sometimes. I forget the the sumptuous man. I'm with continue Sir Inasmuch as the cost is gone this the Majdic Steel House effect and steal their the. The magic is stirring. I can tell you ten dog a year bringing quality. Who's been calling for your reference. Podcasts always been quality lock. It's you'll take you my row. You're saying how dare you you're bringing quality. Well what do I need to do? Just bring my Sean and put it over your shoulder all right well. That will be good wax me. Let's move on to how he is a whole character is it was. It was quite interesting to see him. Salarly shed off the the layer feathers that he had if you pardon the pun in regards to his ability and his inability to give and receive. Love in many ways You see in the lost half of the film a lot of him. Becoming the based is protecting surfie really like that's his main goal by the end of it so it was an interesting Sort of conflict like in a conflict that was manifesting itself externally luck. Just looking at how Hollis I guess what were you telling me about him From what you've read in the book is sort of emotional. It's explaining him. Batta in my view in terms of what I just watched. I think it's just adding more confusion. Intangibles said the men that didn't read the book but anyway how come fight you well the in the movie. There's definitely hinting that. He is some sort of playboy. At least that's how I took it. That's fine and inasmuch as it's not shown and there's some level of care and as he said in the scene. Where are these two soldiers approaching sophie? Supposed to be how in the book and I guess I'm just GonNa wrap my head around in terms of understand his character holy and just to see the kind of drill thought. Diane had of him rather than what's been depicted in the movie bog guests. This is a parker solely focusing on the portrayal so no one told me known gave me the member which is interesting because I think inasmuch as it seems vein. It's not much you can still sympa thousand. You lock him likable very charming. He doesn't he doesn't come off as militias no and he can tell he really does care for Sophie. Oh yes. Even when the go-to see Solomon Send Sophie there? He still make sure that he comes in. You know I did. Wish he was haying the dog how we she was the dog. Also disappointed was and because we're all learning and I mentioned the book earlier. The dog is actually one of the apprentices of Solomon which this is another point where another character completely falling in love having felt the Lavin Globe Sophie because the dog betrays Solomon and just goes with Saudi and doesn't really report back anything up until the android is like her bed. Everything solved foam line for the sophie kissing brief because she was kissing everything by the end of the movie. Yeah Tani ped- you know He. Tom Tiny pill into a human he was the prince of the neighboring town the the ones that will warring with. And let's let's go back a bit against that because again. I have qualms ot I was going to rate everything attended by our Christmas episode. And I think this is one of my favorite Miyazaki joints now. Why because it just felt mismatched today. But the antiwar just didn't make sense really. It did to me. Yeah Again I. I am an enlightened being and I'm going to be ascended up to heaven or Valhalla. Any moment now. So don't you walk? He is what I took from the antiwar theme inasmuch as there's a lot of confusion ambig- Ritchie by the war. I think this is all intentional. No but it's like. Why don't you have a clear cut? Because he have monon okay. You have no scars and it is quite clear on who is fighting who it got to a point where you had this warship. Coming out of nowhere in the meadow of flowers and Sophie's like do you think it's also the enemy and how said it doesn't matter and it's like well it does matter you'd hauling story. He doesn't other end of the day. I think music is trying to tell us to. War is just bad and useless regardless. But he's done in one okay and he executed he's executed. He's doing it differently. You can't just have it. Copy pasted across all movies in the same way. And I think I appreciate this sort of approach to it because most of the time when there was take the wall or what's the Bush started it the Iran war like we knew the reason and then fucking ten blood years later still. It's still going on. Well that's interesting one really know what the fuck is going on. And I think that's the sort of that sort of tapestry can field. This was taking in terms of politicians or the leaders. The fuck doing or. Don't even know the factor. Doing it ends up being sort of big use. It's interesting that you mention that because I have a court firm Highways Akihiko. The reason that we made house moving Costlo is that they're too many unhappy matters in the world and he's referencing the Iraq war right another reason why he didn't attend the ceremony for spirited away by the way I'm house movie. Costal was the second animated feature to get nominated Let me continue the court such as wars an economic crisis. We hope that through the movie people can keep up their courage and say the HERP. The future world is so nice and beautiful. It is worthy for us to survive. Explore it. Okay. I think I liked it. I saw he was going with it and I appreciated his creativity corner but it was a love story amongst all of that and it. It's not to say that you can't have love stories within like war-torn sort of stories being told but it kind of felt like a plot device like every time the story or like Sophie needed to show her courage the war sort of element rid itself around. You know what I mean and they kinda vert themselves into a corner and again I hate who I am like saying this shit right now especially being someone that has loved this film for so long but the fact that they You know which of the ways becomes their best friend They completely remove any sort of wizardry On House Pot and the way they try to explain how it all stitches together with sophie seeing him as his childhood It wasn't the best you know what I mean in in a powerhouse where we've seen execution of messages Prince's monon okay being the strongest one in regards Sula's layers and nuances to have house moving. Causal such simple romantic sort of story about self worth and also about selflessness because. Howlett's that as well right I. It's definitely a mutual beneficial relationship between how and also sophie to then muddy the waters with antiwar literal propaganda. Leaflets falling out of the sky. Yeah right in the mayors like we're close for the day but it's like dude I can still grab your fish while it's there right. It just felt a bit disjointed. And I don't know if I am I reaching my final form of Katie film critic but I really saw this film differently this time round but again. I'm not liking that. I'm not appreciating that. I just WanNa like the Phil here. Well account completely agree with you because you just had my points on it to me. It doesn't really change anything. I I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed watching the time. It's just interesting because I felt like I would love house moving castle till the end of time but I'm getting to a point where I'm like. I love it just like I love Vertucci but you know there are elements in there that. You're you're Let Me Question. What did you think about Sophie's Stepfather? She was a problem. She did sort of law but she also married young and she portrayed by the end of the betrayal but she did feel sorry. She does some nice as long as you feel. Sorry Will Solomon didn't really give choice. Did she come get off it? She's this powerful body grand witch or something. He can't really do anything about us. They give me some like Tasha bullshit like power. Not This is not a Bush. I if she didn't really care about Sophie. I don't think she would exhibit. Those sort of emotions are the end. I can't I don't have any children so I guess my point of view will always be from the child's point of view parents and it's a little coffee parenting to take care of you and she didn't fuck and do that you so there's really not much that. I have to say about the mother-in-law but wow this was designed to be the desert of our reference Daego station but we really got into some meaty sorts of Kahane's yeah because it's a full movie. Some Bacon wrapped desserts if you're nasty to your arteries but wow while while how is this journey? Benfield? It it's been good. Larkham of enjoyed really watching and watching my time. Some of the movies in the we've covered Muzak. You'll always hold a special poverty. And I think this is one of the reasons why I loved so much and why I wanted to be not sort of environment and wild and bloody l just inspires the hell out of me and it's one of the things that I think we will never get tired of watching. Oh yes and would be expanding our potential in a lot of law studio Ghibli movies even Miyazaki John Mese Iq. That's what I mean like. Oh I feel about that because you know they sort of have this sort of unique approach to stuff which is good. It is good. I like that. We have these films. These masterpieces in order to immerse ourselves in a world that we will never be able to experience and there will also centralized k. Messages that we can apply in the real world I also appreciate that You know we can talk about being hippy. And Super Tree hugger but I think it's nice to try and reduce You know you'll waste on the environment and it's not necessarily. We exist here to take advantage of resources in humans or animals for that matter so I really appreciated this. I like the idea of doing feigned sort of months. I liked that. Because it gives us like an anchorage and it makes us very learned And it also helps us you know because we always wanted to do like maize ocoee films and we could just pump out five of them. I guess it has something. Maybe we could Do a lot more of in our second season of the podcast. Who how Nice Mushy Mushy to me? Indeed well thank you guys so much Not only for indulging in reference to go station. 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Episode 273: Tim Tebow

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Episode 273: Tim Tebow

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Dot com slash. That sounds fun. Join over a million people and a lot of our that sound son friends who've taken charge of their mental health again that's h. e. l. p. dot com slash. That sounds fun and now for our conversation with today's guests. It is my buddy tim tebow. You may remember on episode. One twelve with max lucado and he is back today so far and i think i'm sticking with this. He's the only florida gator. There's going to be on this show. I'm just saying to you guys. I don't know how to have more florida. Gators on here listed. Tim's new bronco and friends a party to remember we'll be featured tonight on many. Bff but clubs. You can tune into that on my instagram at six pm. And yes. tim will jump in and join us. You know him you love him. He's a great author of dear friend. Such a fun person to chat with talk sports talk about jesus. He's awesome so. I think you're gonna love this conversation with our friend tim t-bone thank you for being on the show. Thanks for doing this today. say welcome. I love it. Thanks for your heart and now you do every time i've talked with you. Mutual i mean when i saw you last about a year ago. We were here in nashville for thing with our money torn wells. Were you tell me about the song. Y'all just released that. I saw both of you are talking about it. It's his song. But it's helping your nonprofit. Is that right. yeah so it was Gosh let's see maybe four ish months ago he called me and guy just been brick in his heart with all of the the though they're getting traffic around the world and we've been putting a lot of stuff out so he's been seeing it on our website and social media Impacted and so he just said. Hey man i want to be involved And i said you know what. What if you use your god given ability do write a song because we need an army of was his too big of an evil to fight by ourselves leading an army of unbelievers people that believe in the truth and believed that every life matters and believed that we need to fight for stand up or we need a rally people to the cost and he said i mean literally instantly i got it was go and so then a we plan the the writing session said okay. He got in his his couple of writers with them and he said all right. Now tell us everything. So i just sat down. I told him everything in a lot of our phrases that are used as stories in in. We talk later that night after they worked on it for a few hours had tonight shared again by art in rallied in in and finish the song and they literally did it one day in. I love it. it's called. All god's children is kind of a rallying song for hopefully people in his fight against those that are being trafficked again. there will but also it's a fight that for every single life you know one of my favorite lines it. This is the rescue mission. A loved without condition. You know this is our fight till emory life is set free right in why that became a race. Rescue mission is. That's exactly what jesus did. And that's exactly what we need to do for everyone including those. That are being trafficked right. This is a rescue mission. And if you phrase it any other way it just doesn't have the gravity that that does in my opinion. And so i love it. I love that assault. All god's children because that's how we need that and that's how we need to think that's how we need to fight and that's how we need to live. That's how we need to pray that we are all god's children in in we need to remember that other a lot of his children that are in harm's way and we'd better go you know we'd better span the gap to them. They're not gonna come out. We gotta go to them. And hopefully this will be an inspiring song. And i think it has been i think the reception for a lot of be ause been incredible. Really have him debut it for passion conference that guys so cool going crazy i also and corn is just first of all tour and as an unbelievable heart and he has an unbelievable guide given ability to sing. And when you mash those two up and just if you have a really really special person or in it in all all the proceeds going to to rescue missions around the world here in the states and around the world so we're just grateful. I the thing that bothers me about torrent is. He's so talented and he's funny. There is a really good preacher to right. So he's so good. I mean he does he does the right pauses and the right dramatic moments and all the study behind it. It's it's infuriating. That one man is all those things i love. That's awesome. I'll tell you what else i love is. He's so humble. I know when you're around. It's like man. I just want. I want more of that. And he's incredible. I'm so grateful that he's a good friend. He's one of the people that when you see him. This just became like a tour and podcast fan fan podcast but when you see him he always asks you about you before you have a chance to ask him about him and he noticed in always say hey man. That's incredible. that's incredible. Does your your door breath exactly right. Okay the last time you were on the show last year year before it was before you were married. So congratulations thank you. Teach me your ways. How do we do this out of you. Five real honestly. I think it was such a god thing so Demi had a sister with a special needs and she was invited to ninety shine in south africa for the first time to shine there in so make a long story short. That's how we got connected was through her knight your shining cheese desert this served. Yeah either way. That's how we got. The neck is going from email to the texting within a phone. Call where we talk for over two hours. The first time we ever talked in than we just never stopped talking and pretty in two weeks. We get to celebrate our one year anniversary. That's right okay. So talk to our friends that are listening. That are single. I think they need to hear you say that you were on mission and guide made it happen right because it. I mean if it happened at night to shine you are building the thing. God's asked you to build. And you know i i think our god is a really big god and he can do whatever he wants and we need to know that. Trust that and believe in. When you. I believe when he puts you know boggs Timmy how do i know what my purpose my calling us. And i'm like first of all. I don't know but i have your is ever been open to a problem. Has gotten restrict your heart for a need or hurting person or hurting group or something. Then maybe he saying. Hey i want you to go minister there. I want you to try that. I want you to invest there right. And then i think he opens your eyes a little bit more. My eyes were drastically. Open last fifteen medavoy this dino backwards in the jungles philippines. His village look at him as curse and got break. My heart and said i want you to fight for people like this in so Ever since we've been trying to find for people like that boy now there's a hospital there in the bill. Were you know every boy and girl. They're like him. Get the comment in there for free and get operated on it. And love donny. Cared or in the gospel shared with them. And and there's night to shine that we're trying to have in every country around the world. Hopefully it will be one day to be able to celebrate every boy or girl that hasn't been told that there are less than or they're insignificant because we don't believe that we're believed they were designed perfectly by perfect creator. Who who didn't make a mistake or flaw on him and we want to celebrate their worth their god given inherent worth in value and so that was a god moment for me in in. So we're just trying to to live out night to shine in in in grow it in demi bricks. Because she had a sister battling people look down on that was had severe special needs and unfortunately passed away last year and you know like on the surface people within. Oh we all really have that much in common. You're from you know you're from florida's east from south africa. You know different southern's there your sports season the pageant. You know your first languages like broken english hers you know like honestly none of that even matter in. It's not doesn't matter what you know. Our deepest are d the deeper levels of levin people that had been thrown away cared for them having our heartbreak for them. You know like serving our deeper purposes. That's where we align in apply. It was easy to connect. Because how many times do you want to come home. And you wanna talk about a football game or pageant. Like she supports me. And i support her but she doesn't care by talk. You know about what happened with the runner up. Or i don't care if she talks to me about florida georgia game but it is cool that we get to serve in our deepest passions together deep as what we would say is purposes together. And i would say that's really special and i think it was really cool that that was kind of the connection point for us. Yeah how people ask this time share but for our friends that are dating for our friends that are have met. Someone was there a moment that you knew is. There's something or was it. Just this cash a bull first date. I told her. Tim your line owner on our first date. I said i think i just had my last birthday. my man. that's well in this series. Have we had. We had emailed rob before for state. And did you go there. Did you come to america. no she she was. She was living in new york city now playing in in new york minor league baseball in so we were both. I was weird on a on a road trip and she was on a trip getting ready to leave for seven weeks to go from country to country as nice universe and i was like dang i. She's gonna go from country to country and like some prince is gonna sweep proper beep. I asked this girl. Hey let's go. I know you're you're you're visiting. Not harper meals. Maybe an hour or something that she was a good again invent rouse land game. I you know any way that after this game we could mean Dinner you know blah blah blah. And she said yes and that was the first time getting a chance to actually go on a date. Immediate person and it was awesome. I mean please tell me your writing this book because the ways that guide a i mean you both of y'all being our part of new york that is what are the chances i know it was crazy and i was playing. She was out of new york city now to new york and like crazy in and then be able to inbetween all of her country's her seven countries seven-week tour where she's going all around out like you better. You better go you better at. Let's go you gotta go then. Y'all spent your first year of marriage in quarantine lockdown. Yes that's a real way to get to know somebody like you know. What's it like being married in corinthian him. Like i don't know what it's like being married dot in quarantine when we're in in our honeymoon honeymoon. There are some people at a restaurant. We're at eating at and they started arguing in amy. Make a long story short story short. They almost got in a fight blah but we started what what what are they finding about. And i couldn't understand their speaking different languages and so then someone came over interpreted. They were actually talking. There were arguing over this thing called the corona. And that's what they're arguing over again in literally had to get separated from fighting over this at our honeymoon and and we're like One with that is the corona virus and then we flew vermont honeymoon to where we were at night shine in her. First stop was worth. It roamed albania. Rome paris the back to the states where we are visiting In and in right after that is when is hit in in went baseball thing came back and so it was like a whirlwind. But i'm so grateful we in we got our honeymoon. We got the wedding in irregular porco. So so how long were you at baseball two weeks or three weeks two weeks. Something like that. Yeah that is a long wild. And then all his y'all's house in florida you don't have tell us the address but is that where y'all live. Yes yes we're based out of florida and it's nice because this were the foundations based out of him. My parents are only thirty minutes away and so it's a blessing. Yeah and you could be outside a lot. I feel for the people who were inside. So much up up north compared to you and i i mean i could on a walk almost every day without having to wear four coats no doubt but his this wrong that i'm drinking out of a black occur after christmas drink. Yeah i mean. I have to do that. You're allowed to be you around here. Tim tebow but i judge you minorly for drinking out of a christmas mug but well of christmas so i celebrate it pretty much. Do you love christmas thing. I love christmas. I did this on one of those christmas people like when people say oh you have to have your life sound. You know before new year's you gotta you can't put your lights up till after thanksgiving. I judge those people. You're like. let me be me. Yeah so how early. We're not that close right. And we we came back from something Hurley november this year in debbie surprising by having the tree up and some lights because she knew knows how much i love christmas and i was it was the best. You're beginning november. Like what's wrong with you. We we always celebrate jesus's birth. Is your tree still up. It's not but it's only the only reason that it's not up is because we had to take a down because we were doing midnight shine virtual filming so tall. Hey franz taking a short break from this conversation to give a shout out to our amazing partners liquid ivy it cannot be overstated. My friends that we hear doubts books and that sounds fun network. Love liquid issue. We all frequent the shelf in the kitchen. Where our stock of liquid ideas kept. I'm particularly partial to the strawberry flavor. It kind of tastes like i've candy. It's so good. 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Start fuelling your adventures in your everyday at liquid ivy dot com promo code. That sounds fun and now back to our conversation with him. Okay so nights a shine. How is it happening in two thousand twenty one. What's the plan ho even working so hard to not cancel. It still had never want wanna put anybody in jeopardy and so we're having ninety shine virtual and for those that were willing to do. We have a shine shine through. And so it's a drive through where you still get a lot of the elements of driving on red carpet of having dance parties inside your car of of getting a bunch of gifts and celebrating in. There's a bunch of south. China grew so it's still going to be that excitement. It's you know red carpet hop razzi celebrated you still dress up. You get to do it from your own car and then you get to go home. Had the virtual Really excited our teams worked so hard on and I think it's gonna be really exciting. Is it is a special as necessarily giving someone a hug and telling him how much you love them in their god given worth maybe not but i still feel like is going to be really special. We have a lot of people may vary heartfelt videos teamwork so hard to put it together in still their crowning. And there's going to be very special. We'll remind me the date february twelfth this year. Okay and if people don't know about night to shine and they want to get involved where can they go night. Shine dot com conditions. At work isn't easy and night. Deci is the worldwide proper people with special needs to have fifty states than last year in thirty five countries. This year were figuring out. Exactly how many countries been really cool. God's open so many doors around the world deal out of places that it's been harder to necessarily get good news the gospel in but it's been so cool is open so many doors floor or so excited man in that kind of thing. We saw twenty twenty. That's one of the blessings. When i think about what went right and twenty twenty. We got access via this kind of thing via social media. Podcast sermons online. So many more people interacted with our work because it wasn't in person because it came into their house. Yeah i think there was a there was a good site to bad sites to the good side is that we. I've talked to so many of my friends that are pastors. That had Attend multiple fifteen. Multiple people viewing their servants but then Era was the a sex flexible Bet also skyrocketed around the world. And so you don't wanna see it on both sides as we had a lot of good news going out in the results of bad choices that were were coming in as well and so you know. silla huge fight on both sides. I love that ariza. An opportunity for Talked to some of the passengers in there is two hundred and fifty thousand. People that are watching their sermons. Passionate was hundreds of thousands of people watching passion conference all the world. That's just so incredible but then also there are some people that use this access of what we're going right now for bad as well and so it's just it just shows you. That always need to be aware of so. Many things can be used for good or community. Bad it's our choice. So how are we going to use it. that's right. it's a reminder like on its own social media is a tool it is not bad on its own. is it tool how to use. It is how we use it right and we have that choice. You know we have the choice to use the forget to use it as a blessing to us at sharing testimonies. Tell god stories in exciting things or we can use it to you. Don't be mean abashed. People bring people down you know. So i just out encouraged. Everybody listening is is. We don't need to blame other things we need to look at ourselves and say you know what i'm not gonna do what everybody else is. Doing what am i call to do. I was god calling me to use my talents. My abilities my social media. Might my podcast mine. Whatever right it's our choices and we take responsibility for our choices in what we're gonna do with it. Yes okay ten. let's go. you're right. The thing i like to remind. Our friends listening is like if you have one. Follow her on instagram year. Leader you are. We are all leading somebody. We all have followers. That's what are literally called on the internet. That's exactly what it but you know what people say. Is you know the all the time is. I'm not a leader or you know. I'm not a role model. Yes you are but you are because there's probably still watching you. there could be a family member. It could be a friend it could be. A co worker could classmate could be a teammate. Whatever it is probably someone watching you. And they're learning something from you. They're they're influenced by. You might be in a good way. Might be in a bad way and but but we are affecting other people's lives by our attitude. Our efforts are focused. Our care our love our intensity our passion. All of those things are affecting people around us because a lot of things. I just mentioned contagious They really are and we need to realize how contagious our actions are because negatively is contagious. But so is passion. Guess what we put that passion in a good direction. It's hard not to be lured in by real passion. Yes yes that's exactly right. I mean that. If you and i on our social media talk about reading the bible someone picks up the bible probably yeah and blues. I did too and also if we share why why why. The bible meant something. Why when i read this. It means so much to me. Why would i read this. What how what did i think. What a guy what had a feel how to got impact my life right would it becomes transparent and real. Then i think they're going to pick it up even more right because if they watch. The indians is loud that those words to her but that was actually impactful to her and through her not really want to pick it up. Yeah that's right. so how. where do we start thinking about our friends who are listening to have twenty five followers. And that is that is double what jesus had as far as disciples by the way everyone. So there's not a small number here but but where do we start. How do we know what to share. That will really impact you. Do we go based on what we're passionate about really really the conversation. I i believe that first of all. Let's get in the word and let's try to get close to say i'm open. Please speak to me. i wanna read your word. Wanna listen. I wanna hear i wanna learn and when we get the right opportunities. Let's share with our heart. Might you know in in. Maybe you're not comfortable yet putting out a bible verse but maybe you're you can ask someone. Hey how can i pray for you. Maybe you can you can start. That away starts slowing. Get more and more comfortable right. So it's funny. We're talking about passion right in. Passion actually comes from a toll century. Latin word that actually needs to suffer because the word actually came from when jesus went to the cross they came up with the word for the passion of their kreis. The when he went to the cross he was willing to suffer. And so when we talk about passion we. We don't really use it. We use it in the same terms says as motivation or height. Or you know excitement. It's not even close. Passion is very different paths Asteroid you really understand it. What passion really means is. I'm gonna do something even if i'm going to suffer even if i'm going even if i was gonna get made fun of even if i'm gonna get persecuted even if i might fail i'm going to do it anyway. You see. jesus was knew there was going to be painted persecution going to the cross and he did it anyway he did it any are- willing to do something so when i think when when i wanna use the word passion is is. It's because i care so much about something i care so much about god's word care so much about what his son did for me. I care so much about people that i wanna do it. Even if i'm going to suffer for do you feel like you've suffered for it. I feel like you have no kidding me. Fbi tim pr really cruel to you. I feel like you've had moments of suffering. No you wouldn't call it that. I think it's also based on perspective. Right is you. Can you have people say mean things of of course but suffering compared to home not compared to what jesus did not compared to what the disciples went through not compared to what might missionary friends all over the world. I have muslim missionary that had been put in jail put in prison. You know what is real suffering like now is manner. You kidding me. We're so blessed. I look at what we're doing right now. We have the freedom of the privilege to talk zuma better faith and what's going on in our lives and i just want all try to have perspective. This isn't real suffering is the question is anne is if i did have to be in a position where there will be. Would there where there would be real suffering. What i still choice. would i feel take heart. Still take courage right is is. That's what he owned. John sixteen thirty three when they're in the last supper in the upper room. And jesus says you don't try tell you these things because in me you have peace in the world you have tribulation but take heart. I've overcome the world. You know when you face real tribulation are we still going to remember to take heart because he overcame the world and you know the the little things that name. We've gone too. They're not big compared to what the disciples had to go through compared to what t- just went through a now never made a comparison because i've never had to really did them in but if they ever change to that point you know would i be willing to take our remember. He overcame the world. That's the challenge. That's beautiful to zoom out and have perspective on that with as toxic as people can be towards other humans but also to zoom out and have perspective on the gift guides giving you the place you have in the world the impact you have. I mean for all of us to get right perspective. Feels like line you for doing what. God's called you to do y- any you know it's just it's so hard. Is you know we think when we have people criticize us. That is the end of the world. I'll tell you man. Mike for my personality in wired is i'm such a people pleaser. Wanna make you laugh. I don't wanna have fun. And i wanna play games and i wanna to be sarcastic and all those things and it was so hard for me especially early on in college when i started to get criticized in how it go to my dad and we'd be talk in i had but man if they just knew me if i could talk to me that and then i realize y'all not everybody is going to like you when you stand for something and i was reading a book by winston churchill in a time in his life where nobody really liked him the allies couldn't stand him because they thought he was going to lose the war in in his enemies obviously hated him so everybody pretty much hated winston churchill's and he he wrote if you have enemies good at mead you stood for something at least once in your life and you know what so many times were afraid to take a stand because people are going to be against us and you don't want that does you know it does bring some fear sometimes but you know what i would encourage people to say take a stand and be respected than never take a stand and maybe be light because it's real easy to hit a button in have people like you. It's a lot harder to have people respect you in. We live in a society where it's so easy to just wanna have likes but you know what espenza's people like you they'll also dislike you yes right but if someone if you earn respect it's a lot harder to loose in so i would encourage people is what light being liked spine. It's not a bad thing but let's try this. Let's try to earn people's respect by how we treat them but how we live by how we love him by howie apple. That would be a a deeper goal in just being like. Listen i still want to be like run me people. I want them to like me. I want to allow the job. But you know what. I've tried to make the choice in my heart to choose rather whether they liked me or not. I hope i can try to earn their respects. You know. I hope. I can try to earn it and that would be a goal and maybe it could be encouragement to someone. Listen to me. I mean if this thing if no one ever heard this. He's so encouraged thinking thinking about my tendency to i. It is a people pleaser thing. But it's a i don't want to be misunderstood. That's like the center of my fears being public about things. I'm like but they just don't understand where i'm coming from it. I can't i'm totally doley. Felt that they just if they just knew my heart with this. If they just genuinely would wanna listen or you know that happens all the time but i also feel with that any Sometimes i just gotta give it to the lower down a got. You got it and you know my heart. Just please take it in so grateful that he says we can catch birds of on him because he cares for us right and literally like we're tossing it to him you you got. Yeah and he takes it is he cares for us. It helps people for that. Also when i go. I'm going to stand up for this thing. I'm going to stand. Besides jesus like an a more of an opinion. Jesus and i go even if i'm wrong. I'm handing this over to the lord. Because i believe i'm doing the best i can do. I believe i'm doing the very best. With what i know. And so you have to at some of that is letting go that people pleasing to be brave enough to try right for think when especially when someone like you when you step out and you stand up share. Your opinions about a lot of things is is. You have to be willing to do that. And i think the other way to do that is obviously. You're giving your opinions because you believe in something but then there's a way to of sleep so passionately in enthusiastically medic can also come across sometimes very as dogmatic you know and so i also try to word it in a way of you know. Listen guys i don't know everything. I don't perfect the theology. It'll make choices. This is something. I feel in my heart and so i wanna to share with you passionately because i care about not away. Hey i know everything. I've done everything. I'm right but i just care so much i wanna share that and so there's a balance of maybe that can be received a little bit easier than if i come at it saying. Hey i know this but you know. I feel strongly about it so i want to share it with you. It's a little bit different of mindset. And so i try to put myself into that mindset of not i'm right i do care a lot and i want to share because i care i want to share this with you. Yeah yes totally. It's taking the position. It's humility is taking the position of a learner. While also saying i'm learning but i also have learned and both can be trail. Yeah i think that's a great point though. I do think you know so many so. It's so easy to get away from having the position of learner from having the mindset of a learner like every day i want to be a learner i wanna grow i wanna data like one thing that trying to teach you know are teams that are gone dacian received working with its guys we always have the mindset that we learn we grow in. We adapt every day. That means in god's word that means with as a as a leader with our tease with the people that were trying to help we. We need to be the ones that are learning growing adapting. You always need to be willing to listen to wise counsel like proverbs. This proverb through reason innocent. He walks by movie. Wise companion will suffer harm. You need to have wise counselor and also in a multitude of counselors. there is with a right. We need to have wise counsel. We need to listen. We need to learn. We need to grow into a death. We need to be willing to change. It doesn't mean that. Oh you were bad or you're gone where you weren't good no it just means you're better now. Yeah that's right. We're all that there's nothing wrong with that and we should be better tomorrow than we were today. Yes and it just it is such a good reminder to people that you're allowed to know what you know today and still learn more tomorrow but learning doesn't mean you didn't learn yesterday to hey francis interrupted conversation one more time to tell you about one of our incredible partners. 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You're not just the christian preacher guy and you're not just the baseball guy but you're also now luckily for us you're an author but now you're also a kids book author. Now you're going to get to speak into all these kids lives. I am so excited about it. I love it. I love it i tell you what i really had a heart for a long time to run. Write at children's book. And i really think why was because i remember when i was just young boy in my parents would sit beside me in the bed especially my mom and she would read me. Stories hooks before. I go to sleep every now and then in the morning but most of the time before go sleep and i just remember the impact in the way would think about it processes learn learn from the different vitals stories and shoot in remember green eggs him or meadow or off my dog one hundred tricks. They're all those books to stop me. I would love to write a a fun good story but we're also has some meeting in some purpose in insa value in worth in man. If i could share anything with a young boy or girl would that be in really what. My heart's cry was is that i want them to know that they are valuable that they were created on purpose that they have significant that they are fearfully in wonderfully made their unique that they're special that there are wonderful that they are one of one. There is no number two period. You're one of one. You're perfect designed a way. You are in with your abilities or your disabilities as some of our society would say god can use that in the major that way for a reason he did not make a mistake. I wanted them to understand their god given worth in purpose. Because i feel when we understand that about our life. It changes our actions such projector. Now i don't have to sit there and look in the mirror and say dang i wish i look this way or i wish i was taller or i wish i had this earn which i had this because i can trust a perfect gop a he created perfectly. And if you wanna be taller i would've been tolerant. And you want any shorter. I would've been shorter. That the the holy rightist just loving god. Love me so much. He made me wait for exactly this way for his plan in his purpose. That was perfectly done. There was no mistake. There was no like oops sorry. I missed up on that one never never happened and it will never happen right in. Will we understand that about our lives. It's like gain not only. Does it change me on the inside. It also changes the way i you. Someone helps yes. Because when i understand about my life and who i am who and how was created in what i was created. Do i also see you that way. i also so i can't i can't realize that about myself not realize that about you because when i await This way when i look at you he gritted you that way. That means i can't look at someone else in judge. I can't look at someone else and say listen. I can't because i'm not actually really judging that person you know who i'm really judging god. That person had no choice in in looked person had no choice of colored. Baptists net notes. We only did and so. That person had no choice in their abilities or disabilities in their strengths of their weaknesses. God did you someone else. And i say oh you know what you make a choice or a judgment on them. What's foolish to think that. I'm actually doing against them. Really doing against scott. That's right and i think when we wanted to change the actions of some of society in the in the world who look down on certain groups of people is we gotta start it from the inside the started from the inside of understanding their own worth how they were created. Because when i believe it's going to change your accents on the up and isn't that what happens when we write kids books as that. We say it to the kids but the parents are listening. The parents was killing two birds with one stone. When you write kids. I hope so i love it and you did whatever so. I think you know this because the show comes out on the twenty fifth of january and that that that night you're getting on an instagram live with me and they told you that what we do is we have a during the pandemic. I started reading kids books on instagram. At six o'clock at night just to help parents and we do it every monday night. So tonight the twenty fifth. I'm gonna read off to remember and you're going to jump on and say. How do the kids started with like. I texted my friends and said i was going to do it. And now we have tens of thousands of kids. We get to read to every monday night. Eight is the old how you how you use in created your platform. It's really well. I don't know if you know this about me. But i used to teach elementary school. That's why i studied at georgia and so it is felt like such gifts. perfect already. Dropped georgia florida. Listen i know we knew who we are. And i used to be able to read books out loud to my classes and then when i switched to this career i kinda went. I'm sad that that part of my job gone. And then because of the pandemic the lord has multiple read to twenty kids and now you and i will read to twenty thousand credible. It's so sweet. And one of the things. I was going to tell you that i know are many. Bff's it's called the mini bff book club. And what. I love animals and so you've done a home run by taking this book and telling these really important thoughts about how to love the people well but you've used all animals and it was important to me because first of all it's hard not telev- of animals especially when they're led by an amazing dog dog. Just get that right. Also spun to tell it in a story way where everybody feels apart and i really wanted with bronco and friends to to tell a story Where everybody was also on the same team because it's so easy to think that we're on opposite teams but we're really not yet. Were all on one team. Were called to be on one team and we're called to fight for each other and this. This story of bronco in friends is so fun to see how they work together to make each other better to where they all accomplished their goal. And i really believe floor to do in. Life is what we find our purpose. When i help you find yours right in an. I am more fulfilled when i help you to the next place. You want to go and And i feel like it's it's the concept that children can understand but it's also a concept that we need to chew as adults needed. Choose to live by. Yes yes i also love. The bronco has glasses so great. A dog glasses is perfect him. But you know what. I noticed a lot on many book club is we will. There will be one animal or one kid in a wheelchair on a page and suddenly the comments will blow up my brothers in a wheelchair. I'm in a wheelchair. I have glasses my skin color. I mean when kids see in books things that remind them of themselves or people they love it matters so much. So thank you for giving bronco glasses. Well that was that was very specifically done of every single. One of the main characters had abilities in disabilities just like i believe every believe we all do in life and as you look through the book you'll see several different wheelchairs crutches an opera help people get made fun of for some of them. But i believe that that with their abilities are disabilities are strengths or weaknesses. That that god gave those to us for a reason and a purpose. And i believe when we give those back to him that will you'll use in our lives in through our lives and why the world might you as a disability. I think that god created us in a way that he can use and hopefully there will be kids that might have been told that this is the disability but hopefully it'll be encouraged to book. Wow you know. God gave me this on purpose. And i'm going to us. We're gonna share it tonight on many. Bff book club at six o'clock so everybody can come here us. Read it if you are listening to this. After monday night's you can always go in my tv. And find him. And i reading bronco and friends a party to remember. Okay tim. i know you've got levi. Let's go up after this. So i don't wanna make you too late but they're two final questions one. Is there anything we didn't talk about. The you want to make sure we cover awesome. So it's fun and we won't argue about georgia florida this time aside. Everyone knows where we've come from. They know who we are. And you're only gator. I've ever allowed on here. So i don't always ask gave us last time to. The show is called. that sounds fun. Tell me what you're doing for fun this way twenty-fifth but i'll be at the national championship working for that hothouse while this weekend. It'll be fun on the twentieth. Me we get to celebrate our one year anniversary. That'll be fun so we got a lot of in just a couple of weeks. We will have night to shine so that will be totally fun. Yes and that national predicted. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go bama very close very close. I think it's super competitive. It'll be fun to watch either. I don't care who cheer for. That's a five game to watch. They're both hot. Yes yes yeah. No kidding funny. Thanks for doing this. I'm really grateful for you so much. Thank you can you be more fun. Oh france don't you love him. What had great dude man. He is so smart. I just. I enjoyed talking to him every time we get to do that. I'm so grateful. Hey make sure you grab a copy of bronco and friends a party to remember. Don't forget join us for many. Bff book club tonight at six pm. Central tim will be joining us as well. Hey if you ever want to see the whole list of the books that we read on monday nights to our many. Bff just go to anti f downs dot com and click on the mini bff. Book club tab and you'll see the whole list there also be sure you're following him. Tell him thanks for being on the show today. He has a couple of other books. He's written that. I think you might love reading as well so check all those out if you need make embarrassingly easy to find any f- downs on instagram twitter facebook places you may meet. That's how you can find me. And i'm anne f downs t. s. f. Like that sounds fun on youtube. And i think that's it for me today friends well except don't forget that the bonus free audiobook that you can redeem preorder. That sounds fun. Book expires today on february one. That will be the last day you get that free audio book. So check out. That sounds fun. Book dot com for all the details. Now that's it for me today. Friends go out or stay home. Do something that sounds fun to you. And i'll do a have a great week. And we'll see you back here on thursday with jakarta's v

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"If you're listening to this, you obviously, like podcast and you probably like music to on Spotify, you can listen to all of that. And what place for free. You don't need a premium account. Spotify has a huge catalog podcasts on every topic including the one you're listening to right now. Uh Spotify, you can follow your favorite podcast. So you never miss an episode. Download episodes to listen to offline wherever you are easily share what you're listening to with your friends via Spotify integrations with social media platforms like Instagram. So just search for space news pot on the Spotify app or browse podcasts in your library, tab, and follow me. So you never miss an episode of the space news pod. Spotify is the world's leading music streaming service. And now it can be your go-to for podcasts too. Hello, everybody. Welcome back species have your host well while the. While the. Today is a good day. My friends. Carolyn Porco, if you don't know who she is. She's the Cassini imaging lead. Cassini probe studied, Saturn. And gave us some absolutely amazing. Visuals of that planet. Now I had a little Twitter conversation with her. I asked her a couple of questions about the new titan mission? That's coming up. Titan mission. That will land quad copter. On the moon titan. And take photos, stitching together make video, check out what the surfaces. See if there's any life there. So I had a little conversation and I'm gonna kinda read it off to you. Let you know what she what she says about the, the mission she's not part of this mission, but she's part of the bigger Cassini missions that were happening in the past. So I said this tight mission, how cool is it that we're sending a helicopter to another world? She said how cool two hundred ninety degrees below zero Fahrenheit. And then she said that you expect any other answer from a scientist. Of course, she's joking dufy awesome. But she said, but also dazzlingly spectacular a really hope I'm still around to see it, and that it works. So this mission is going to be launching in the mid twenty twenty s in land on titan in the mid twenty thirties. So from now. Fifteen twenty years from now Ashton, how's it going? About fifteen twenty years from now this thing land. I really hope, Karen, Carolyn can see it. That'd be amazing. Absolutely amazing. So this quad copter thing, this, this drone is autonomous it'll fly around. The surface. Titan. Up zuma. By itself. We don't need to tell it where to go. We don't need anything like that. It'll be scanning the surface as it goes. It'll be landing on the surface. And also taking measurements. For life for composition. For various other things. It also be able to use its rotors to kick up dust. That's another cool thing. So it'll be able to kick up dust, wherever it is an it can read that dust. Now, the other thing is I was worried about this. Right. I was worried about the dust getting into. This quad copters. They Blake this podcasters rotors, because it's crazy sub tear up. It's crazy. How much this world kinda resembles ours, even though it's full of methane so rain on titan is methane. It's not water. It's methane. So what I was worried about is, is this quad. Copter, airtight, is it watertight? Is it Santa tight? So I asked Carolyn I said. The the, the mission looks incredibly complex. Hopefully, the technology is able to withstand that kind of temperature for the mission length seems like sand, maybe a factor in the long term as well. And he thoughts of moving parts on this one. Caroline said, we're not sure the surface is sand like. Now when they did the press conference with NASA when I was on the call with them, the scientists there stated that it will be landing in the sand dunes around the equator. Of titan in when Caroline said that they're not sure that the surface. Ascend like. Of all the people you can trust. With information about Saturn in its moons. You gotta trust Carolyn Porco. She knows everything about everything about Saturn. She was lead Cassini image. That was the probe the. Orbits Saturn for so long. No longer with us. They had to decommission it, but she said she went on to say, we're not sure the services sand, like it could be more like snow made of tar. The but there will be large particles, made of organic compounds in. It's not clear to me what that might due to mechanical mechanisms dust on the moon was a real problem for the Apollo, astronauts. So snow. Tar. That's what they're going to be landing on. The only thing I can really equate it to on earth is. You know, I don't know if you're from a place where there's a lot of snow, but I'm from near Buffalo New York. We get a lot of snow here. When they plow the roads in like all the crap from the tires gets in the snow piles in it's all dirty and nasty in like their brownish blackish snow. And there's little pebbles, you dirt everywhere. That's kind of what I acquainted to. Maybe that's just because the color. But it seems like it would be a little bit more dense than that, you know, like a snow like a dense snow because. My road just got paid a little bit go. So if it's tar like that. If it's like asphalt Qatar or like roofing tar but little particles of it. Like the size of a snowflake. What's the composition of them? How are they gonna stick together? Or are they going to be able to? Be kicked up by the rotors because that's kind of what they were saying, before, like the rotors are going to be able to pick up this sand and the. The sand on titan the quote Sange air quotes, by the way. Could possibly be our kind of Lynch? To another life form in our solar system. Now that being said, it's still a far distance in the future. They still have about ten years to figure out the engineering, and the science. Do as much research, as they can't get the proper instruments in place in tweak them before they actually launch. So they have plenty of time to get this right before the launch. But if anything goes wrong. Say if this thing lands, you know, if they land it properly, the land it well. Then anything goes wrong with the mission. Jeff fix it. It's far away. It's really far away. So there's not going to be any sort of fixing to this quad copter. Once he gets to tighten if it does break down. Now in the other thing is if it sand and it gets in the rotors, if the engines, the Motors, I'm not sure it's probably going to be electric Motors. And I know the what's powering is a nuclear sell similar to curiosity Rover. I think it's actually a same same system is curiosity from not mistaken. But if that's the case that's going to be pretty awesome. But it's also because they can make it a more sealed. Engine for motorized should say, more sealed motor, the rotor a rotor motor. So hopefully, that all goes, well, I mean, ten years down the line, I'll keep you up to date as much as I know about it. But for now we're just kind of hanging back. Waiting to see what actually happens with it because. I was not like there's not a lot of information about it quite yet, just what they kind of said the other day. Which is okay? We're gonna fly a frigging quad copter on titan. Autonomously. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Now, I've got to say real quick. I want to thank Magellan TV for their support for the podcast. It'd been really great if you like science space tech documentaries could could've magilla, TV dot com slash space news pod, and you can get two months for free. Really? Awesome documentaries, posting it and chat right now. Really cool stuff, two months for free, and you get over fifteen hundred premium documentaries, and then after that, it's only four ninety nine a month. 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So if you wanna make a little bit of money while having a cool podcast, while download the crap or go to anchor up FM to get started. Now let's move on to this cool space plane. Nasa has a new plane. Is that a space plane sorry about that? It's a supersonic plane. They have this really crazy new plane, but it doesn't have a windshield. They're using a monitor like you would like video game monitor there's three monitors. There's one with a camera attached to that. You can see the front, then there's other monitors with other information on them. And if all goes to plan in twenty twenty one NASA will start test piloting this thing. Is a very long nose cone. In it will fly faster than speed of sound. Demanding to be looking through window. They're going to be looking at a four K monitor. Cameras in the front of the ship. We'll send real time video to the pilots feel the view rate to that. Four-game monitor. So the flight is going to be pretty standard pretty normal. And the creators of it hope that it will break the speed of sound without producing the sonic boom, there were so used to. If it can get through the sound barrier, choir quieter than a traditional supersonic plane. It might be able to. Length that technology to future. Planes that fly over regular civilians, like you and me. Which would be really great because there are some planes out there that are super loud. And the reason why they don't have a windshield is basically drag. You want it to be as era anemic as possible in a windshield. Gives it that little bump. For the glass, and if they don't have that, bump, they can cut down on drag. So said they have a couple of. Couple of cameras up there shooting video directly forward and also streaming it back to that fork display. Pretty cool stuff has a camera on the top of the nose cone, and a camera underneath. That's the one atop, we'll be looking forward in the one underneath will be looking downward, giving a view of the runway for takeoff in landing. So instead of just I mean this thing looks crazy, I'm going to post a picture here. Popular science. Check that out. Now. There's a couple of problems with this, though. Humanize see a specific rate. And if this monitor's refresh rate, isn't properly tuned. Then the pilots can get motion sickness. And. You know, your eyes could start seeing a little bit of late and see. For a plane, that's going this fast. You can't have any latency s dangerous. The goal is. If they do a right. It'll be as if there's a real window there and not a monitor in the pilots won't really be able to notice the difference. So that's pretty cool. That was a pretty neat thing that I came up on the other day. Nasa is also doing some Mars in moon studies. And they're picking some people to do this some different entities to help them out. This is for the solar system. Exploration research virtual institute. Center for lunar and asteroid surface. Science is one of them. The UCF's team will so regular, which is the soil like material on other planetary bodies on the moon and asteroids specifically looking at the physical properties in resources, regular and its behavior in the space science or in the space environment. So they're basically going to be looking at. Space soil. There's a bunch of other ones too. And basically, what these things are different teams from around the world. Around the country, I should say. And what they do is, if we're got to science different kind of engineering center for luth's lunar science and exploration, that C, L SE, but by David kring at the lunar planetary institute of Houston through modeling geochemical analysis. This team will track the distribution of form of volatile from the early solar system to the formation of the moon and subsequent evolution today. So it's basically all the moons. We're going to be working on our moon and Mars, men and more stuff, too. That was pretty neat pretty excited about that one. They also wanna let you know about. Some updates to the trip. Ever fifteenth is still tentative. It's not a sure thing that's kind of a. Kind of a, let's figuring out as we go. But November fifteenth is the plan to launch astronauts back to the ISS from US soil for the first time. Since the space shuttle, docu got decommissioned, and my plan is to road trip down. There have a friend who is a videographer Filmer editor works in. Works in film, works and TV and he's really great at it. So hopefully, I can get some really cool. Youtube videos out of it, and I can share the experience with you guys along the way. I have some kind of getting it altogether as I go just kind of like piecing it together, what I need to do. And. Where I need to go, what I wanna do on the trip. Because it's a. Twenty one hour trip altogether. So if I take that's basically, like if I drive one whole day I get there, if I started at, like six in the morning and ended at six in the morning. You know, I'd get there. They say you know, twenty one hours so split in half ten hours each day. A lot of driving so via trove ten hours from where I have right now let me take a little little trip on Google maps. Come along on this trip with me real quick. The ten hours from where I am right now. Is I well, I have to go through. Pennsylvania. By friend lives in New York City, either he can come up here and meet me here or I can drive to somewhere in between me and hip, Scranton, Pennsylvania is pretty much in between my friend and myself. From there. We can pretty much goes straight down. Through Tom Pennsylvania, near Philly pass. He though the jersey shore is pretty cool. You know, Baltimore in Washington. Now, the other thing that I didn't really want to do is hit Washington DC. That's tough. That's tough drive. The beltway is insane Baltimore, too. I mean this just one big giant mess down there. So what I would prefer to do. I've got to talk to him about this, but I would prefer to do it's him to come up here. And then we could go through Harrisburg into her she. I'm just looking at this right now and go through Woodstock down south near Charlottesville and Richmond and stuff like that. And that kind of hit Richmond, go south from Richmond, Virginia. Near the ocean on the way there. But, you know, if he came down, if you came to me to start which kind of sucks for him because it's a lot of traveling for him. Some kind of like throwing out ideas, which I was kind of pondering. At the same time. Today. I, I kind of figured about, but we could travel through the forests of Pennsylvania, which be really cool. Really beautiful. Beautiful scenery. Awesome. Nice guys too. So it's possible you know, maybe I'm going to be traveling down the coast. Or maybe I'll be traveling through the inlands of Pennsylvania, in down south through there. Some kinda still trying to figure out what's the best way. I want to save money. But I also want to have the best experience like driving over to New York City doesn't sound like fun going to Philly. Philly's red cool Baltimore, Washington. That's just a big mess. Richmond isn't bad. Been of Richmond. Newport News we can go to Richmond. We could. Maybe we could do is drive one day to Richmond, Virginia. It would take us all day to get there. Let me see how far that is from here. That is a Richmond. Virginia is a seven hour drive. I so we can go to Richmond. That's a pretty decent. I chunk from my house, go to Richmond. Or we could go to Virginia Beach, maybe. Virginia Beach, which would be your really insane. Be really fun. So let's say Virginia Beach from me is eight about nine hours. So that's pretty much halfway, Virginia Beach. Go to the beach a little bit. Hang out. You know, skateboard whatever. Did you hire cells have little vacation on her way to NASA? Where we will see one of the most important rocket launches of our lifetimes. Launching humans back to the international space station from. US soil on a US rocket SpaceX capsule on top of it. So that's pretty cool man. That's my trip and working on it. I've got to go fund me. I'm going to post it up. It's not done yet. I'm working on a video for it. So here's the go fund me, I want to keep you guys up to date with it. That's the go fund me. If you're interested already got some people that helped me out, Blake helped me out so far. And I just I literally just kind of like hinted at the other day, not even a solid Las promoted on anywhere on social media. So you all get the first glimpse of this whole trip trying to figure out everything. In, you guys are important in my decision making because I think it'd be kind kinda cool to get your guys feedback on what are some the things to do on the way down there. So if you know anything, just let me know. So that being said, I'm working out another video a long form. Maybe long for about ten minutes. Ten minute YouTube video about UFO conspiracies and also did we land on the moon. Just because I know their stuff out there already. But I think a lot of these places that try to bucket. Debunked the conspiracy theorists go too crazy about it. They don't take the layman's terms. They don't take the normal path of somebody who's just logical. Not somebody who is a scientist. I'm just a normal that likes space stuff. It even I can tell it's like four hundred thousand people, I believe something like that. It was some ridiculous amount of people working on Apollo eleven. Some ridiculous. It's like half a million people. It was. So it was like so many people, I'm probably completely wrong about that might be like fifty thousand let me see how many people worked Apollo. Four hundred thousand people worked on Apollo eleven. Four hundred thousand people they had to keep their mouths shut. Four hundred thousand people that if they were in this part of the conspiracy, if they were part of it. Almost half a million people would have had to keep their mouths shut for the rest of their lives. There's no way there's no way that many people can keep their mouth shut about. So there is like one thing because I'm going to be working on with this next video. Also, if you go to YouTube dot com slash space news pod. All these podcasts are available there as well. And also like shorter clips things like that going to start doing more. Informative clips going to be doing some more more produced highly produced or higher producers think maybe now highly because I'm not that really great at it. But I'm working on it YouTube videos about space science, and technical along with the podcasts because a podcast automatically uploaded, which is really nice. So working on that stuff. There's all sorts of fun things that are going on. Silica was seen before. There's other cool stuff. That's going on. It's just kind of. Kinda just a fun thing. Right. So like science doesn't always have to be about crazy stuff in about, you know, conspiracy theories and keeping it super crazy in intense all the time. It doesn't have to be I want science to be fun. I want science to be. Enjoyable for everybody and not a pain in the butt. Speaking of Apollo, though. They're going to allow NASA. We'll be allowing. Scientists get their hands. On moon rocks? The United States. Has twenty two kilograms seal, the way, the mass going to open up after several decades of scientists waiting. They'll be able to study them using current technology the technology when they last studied them was different than what it is now. Twelve moon-walker gathered, this lunar material. Some of it was vacuum packed on the moon and never has been exposed to earth's atmosphere. Somebody has been frozen or Stockton, gaseous helium, but they all remain. Untouched. These moon rocks will be. Divvied out to different scientists. And they're not going to be contaminated. There will make sure that they're going to be. In tubes, or containers that are pristine. Very pristine. Geologist will be required to wear protective suits and lab gear provided by NASA in will only receive a specific amount of material to conduct their proposed research. So. The sample vault which contained seventy percent of the original amass lunar material has to come nations and takes two people to unlock. That's some high stakes stuff right there. So that's kind of cool. It's very cool that they're doing this, like, it's not super crazy moon. Rocks are really cool, but it's just fun science. We get to learn a lot about the mood. Probably do this. So hopefully, they get a lot more information with our new tools new technologies. And we are able to. Some more info. About how are we going to land on the moon to what's the moon's surface, made of we know it's dusty, we know it's rocky. We know what kind of made of, but maybe our new tools can come up with other options and other ideas. And maybe the tools that we're using now to study, this will bring up other experiments, the future for future, boomer landings human literally endings, which will be happening if everything goes, right? Twenty four. No. If all goes off at moon mission. What are we going to be studying? We don't know yet. We're not sure exactly what. We're going to be studying we're going to be studying definitely going to be bringing back some samples. The first woman will be setting foot on the lunar surface. Twenty twenty four followed by the next man. They'll be. Lending making sure everything goes. Right. And eventually, eventually. We'll be able to. Build a colony on the moon. That's the plan, you know, give it ten years from when we've relance on the moon and we'll start making colonies if all goes. Well, and I keep saying, if all goes well for a reason. We all know that funding for NASA. It's kind of a weird thing. It's really weird that politicians have their hand in science is really weird that politicians can steer the nation's science objectives. When they aren't scientists. You can say you want to go to Mars, all you want, but is it realistic to go to Mars within the four years that your president? You know during the time that. You're getting funding from for NASA for certain projects. We've been to the moon. Been in the mood a lot. We don't know everything about the Mon, but we don't know everything about the earth either, should we be focusing on further objects in the cosmos, such as Mars? Such as titan. Tighten them. We'll have a robot on it is about ten years earn about twenty years, I should say, but we need to learn a lot about the moon in how to live in space in order to live on Mars. If we don't send people back to the moon. Will we be able to send people tomorrow's? That's the question. Think about it. It's baby steps. The first explorers that. Crossed the sea. He didn't cross the sea. The first try. They crossed there. See once they knew how to do it. They went out little by little. And they nudge themselves out further and further. Little boats built up the bigger boats build up bigger boats. And eventually, they crossed sees two different land. Now, this is similar because our se- is space. And our boats, spaceship's rockets pods for humans to live in. Now, if we go straight from earth to Mars without knowing how to live halfway there. In a tin can. What's going to happen to our astronauts, they fly towards the hurdle towards the red planet? We have no idea. We have to learn that stuff. It's a it's a process. So all these new moon. Studies the survey studies the solar exploration research virtual institute studies the really important the really important to the fact. Of humans going to other planets is if they're going to be studying the moon, they're going to be studying Mars. And also, if we're going to be landing on the moon. That's our baby step. That's our pedal boat to get to the bigger ocean to cross the sea of the solar system to get to the red planet. Bittel structure. You probably die. They're just the way it is. You got to understand these astronauts, when they go to Mars, they have to expect that they're going to die. Like that's just in your head. Like you gotta do it man says, how that works. You know, you're probably not going to come back. Mars is really far away takes five hundred plus days to get there. If something goes wrong in between here and Mars. You're not gonna get save man. There's nothing you can do you're going to be on your way to Mars. You're probably going to die on the way to Mars. If something goes wrong, when you are there. Then you're probably gonna die on Mars. That's just the way it is in it sucks. You know, we can send people around and come back slingshot back to the earth from ours. That's possible. You know, we're going to have to give them a lot of materials. A lot of stuff to sustain them. In order to do that whole trip. It's a thousand plus days. So a thousand days. Three years. In a tube with somebody else. No place to go. You can't leave. Could you do that three years in habitat? Let's see how long it will actually take. Desk, searching a little bit for you guys how it takes to get to Mars from earth can be between. Okay. So it's about three hundred eight hundred fifty to three hundred days depending on Mars in relation to the earth. So let's say my math was completely wrong. I'm going to fess up to that. I said, five hundred days hundred fifty to three hundred dollars three hundred days. So let's just say in between two, let's say, two hundred dick is this. What today's there two hundred as back four hundred days that's about a year. So in a year, could you sit in a can with somebody? It's about the size of a bedroom. That's about as much as you're gonna have. And that's in the pods that we have currently. Will we be able to build a structure like the international space station to send people to Mars? Why don't we take the international space station wants his decommissioned? Straps rockets on it, send it to Mars, the plenty of room. Plenty of room to move around, do science live. And then when you get there you have. You have a. Just put it trajectory to swing back around at back towards earth. Get some of the gravity wave. Not the gravity waves. But slingshot from Mars back to earth. Is that possible? I'll ask around. See if that's possible. That sounds like a pretty cool idea, though. Especially if you're going to be sending somebody that far away. And if they're going to decommission the anyway, would it make the trip would last that long? It's already built to withstand. It's built to withstand. What's it called? Radiation. Has everything you need to live in there. You gotta do you have to ship up some more food, we make trips to. ISS all the time. So maybe attached a little bit thruster to it. Or unit towards Mars. And have the calculations and whatnot have some people to get that out. I wonder if that has been discussed. I'm sure it's been discussed. What are we going to do with the international space station when we're done with it. Plummeted into the earth's atmosphere and burn up into an ocean. It's probably what's going to happen. Why waste it though. I'm sure there's three people three or four people that are astronauts, that would be willing to take the trip to Mars. At any cost be like, do you want to try it? All right. Do it jump in. We're going what do you think happened? The old timey explorers Bryn giant wooden boats traveling across the seas wasn't like, hey, we're gonna make this, no matter what. And we're gonna live. It was like all, we know we're probably to die. We wanna live. We wanna make it to a new land, but we're probably not gonna make it back. For do make a back. It'll probably be fifteen or twenty years later, after a boat crashes in Iran, stranded dot restraint on island somewhere, so why not take the international space station. Turn that sucker sideways launched it towards Mars possible. Maybe I'll ask around. See if it's possible it is, I'll get back to you guys. Let you know. We'd have to tweak it a bunch. I'm sure I'm sure we'd have to make some out of cases to it. I'm sure we'd have to put some sort of shielding on it. So it'll be traveling through space not orbiting earth like it is now. But I think that would be our one of our best chances to get there in not a tin can not a little pod for seven people in actual living quarters. Instead of building something new, you know, is it possible? Let me get on Twitter. Let me see if anybody they'll answer. Who should I ask for should I ask? I just found a new. Nasa? Researchers have found a way to grow wheat at the international space station. Dwarf wheat. But from seeds to plants back on earth plants use gravity as a Cutie grow, but here, they have to adapt to wait us environments. That's really cool. That's where he's, here's recreated a little mother earth. Or the international space station. Cool. Is that? We just growing instead of facility. The size of a mini fridge called the advanced plant habitat. Thank you, mash -able for that. That's really cool. I'm going to ask the international space station here. We got this tweet them. Chance. We can't turn the space station. Toward. Mirus and. There we go. Probably not going to be by the end of this podcast. But any chance we can turn the space station towards Mars and fi the station there, but it's time to commission. It includes some astronauts, we have a grand journey. Tweeting twitted. There we go. Done and done. This is good stuff. If you have any questions about anything, just let me know, hit me up and say, hi. Appreciate you sticking out sticking out stick in out with me through this hot cast. It's sticking it out with me through everything that I've been through with this podcast. I started last year. Late last year. But see how many episodes I have altogether. I think I have two hundred fifty. I have a hundred and twenty one thousand total plays of the show. Holy crap. What the heck? How many episodes do I have two hundred and fifty one episodes? 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Any device anywhere, anytime two months for free. And after that, it's only four ninety nine a month. So thank you to Magellan. Thank you to everybody who's helped out. Thank you to anybody. Who's? Checked out. Mike. Oh, fun to me. I really do appreciate. Here's a link to that one again. Now. As far as. Earth goes. There is a mass water reserve reservoir. It's been discovered under the Atlantic Ocean. A huge reservoir of relatively freshwater discovered locked under layers of rock beneath. Eat landing ocean off the east coast of the United States. So there could be other aquifers. Near other seas. Neither other oceans. Because we need these sort of fresh aquifers to continue to give water to us, basically. This one's fifteen thousand square miles. It stretches from New Jersey out beyond Martha's Vineyard and holds about six hundred seventy cubic miles of water. That's quivalent to about half the volume of Lake Michigan. This is water trap within the pores of rocks. So it's sort of like a water soaked sponge. That's what they said, an NBC news. So it's not a lake under the ocean. It's water in rocks. Support rocks have this water at. So you have to think like is this ocean water that kind of seep down into these rocks, and it gets filtered because the rocks filter possible. They were companies drilling offshore for oil, and they found evidence of fresh water reserves nearby. But this new study as the first Alker for size in map in detail from New Jersey almost near like middle New Jersey jersey shore all the way up near tuck it. Martha's Vineyard area, kind of insane that exists. A measured electromagnetic fields below the coastal region, and they drop receivers to the seafloor and ship to Toan apparatus that emitted electromagnetic pulses, sin saltwater, conducts conducts electromagnetic waves better than freshwater. The researchers could pinpoint the aquifer based on the fields produced beneath the sea floor. So there's water under our water water out our ocean in rocks strapped. And the extend out is far as seventy five miles near the edge of the continental shelf, six hundred feet below the seafloor. And the deepest sections of it, go down to about twelve hundred feet. That's on earth. That's here that's near me. I could drive there tomorrow. Well, that is if my car wasn't broken down to say to say, I kind of. I kind of took it into the shop the other day because it was spitting in sputtering, and I got thirty one error codes. What the heck said, even possible do I get a plaque for that thirty one error codes? We've been does that. So Carson shop for about a week, trying to figure everything out emissions kind of stuff, probably whole new exhaust system. But if my car on the road, I could drive down the Martha's Vineyard and go look it out there in the ocean. That's where the freshwater is. Go. The jersey shore. I've been jersey sharp before. Spittal people then summertime. But it's still beautiful. Extracting the water locked in the rock layers, treating it to make it potable would likely be costly and possibly impractical. They said. So we're not going to be able to get this anytime soon. Probably not gonna unlock this water under the ocean anytime soon. Gonna cost a lot of money, take a lot of time, a lot of resources and this probably better ways to get water than these. Water supplies under the ocean. It's probably easier. I mean, I'm not sure if it is an app, but I would assume be easier to just take ocean water. Desalinated. Make it potable drink. That would be my guess. But if they have no other choices. I think that would be. That'd be a, a thing to consider. Is that there's a limit to how much you can pump sustainably? I would take a long time to empty out prefers, but we wouldn't want to get to a point where we've pumped so much that we've exhausted the supply. It's a lot of water. It's a lot of drinking water for a lot of people. For people that might not have good water to drink. Flint, Michigan possibly is that fixed yet. It's what Michigan anybody know. I don't think it is. My are we working on that stuff? That's like a fix it. I'm sure they could get a bunch engineers over there. Help them out. What people make the argument about. Why do we spend money in space? Instead of fixing the problems here on earth. Things aren't that easy. It's not that easy. You can't take money from one organization. Or the science from one organization, and fix the world's problems. You just can't do it. It's like saying, hey, if NASA were better funded we'd be on. We'd be to the next galaxy by now. It's not the way it works. Can't throw money at something and make it work. And I'm not just talking about Flint, particularly I'm talking about everything. That's wrong with earth climate change. Lack of food like water for a lot of people. Vaccinations, you know, people that are vaccinated to help them out, so it doesn't spread disease. That's a huge problem. Get your kids vaccinated, people seems to seems to be a thing, some people are against, but. You could make choices but. Scientists the science says otherwise no mommy blog. We'll tell you the actual science of the things that are just going to tell you hearsay in conjecture. Now. I'm not an expert but I do know experts in the field and they've told me numbers things in. They're not paid off by the government. They're not paid off by big pharma to give you these injections. If you think that. Running down to a weird rabbit hole. Man ticket. Look yourself. Why are you thinking about this stuff? I understand question everything. Right. You got to trust the professionals. Sometimes. They don't want your kids to die or have autism, right? Those are the two major things like I don't want my kid to get sick want my kids. They have autism. Why would it? Dr. Give you something they would cause your kid to get them. To quote unlock it. Some people say. That's just stupid. You being silly. The doctor would never do that. They took an oath. They would never do that. They would never harm your kid on purpose. That's one of the things you got to think about. As a parent. Also, you gotta think about, you know, how are we going to get this money to fix these problems? Right. We have all sorts of problems in the United States. One of them being Flint, Michigan. How are we going to fix that can't throw money at it? There's tons of problems over there. We haven't fixed it yet. Why is it? This administration done anything about it. Why isn't it fixed yet? When did Flint, Michigan start? Let's find out. People are still in trouble there. Let's see here. Recently. I know that. Twenty four teen twenty thirteen somewhere on there. Why have we fixed it can't just throw money at it? I wish you could I really wish you could. But you can't. Get through money at NASA. I joked I lost a listener because I joked about giving. Taking the department offense money giving to NASA using part of the department of defense, telling them that. There's China's evil. And they're gonna start a war on the moon. So we can get back to the moon faster. So we can have better technology joked about that. And somebody left my podcast sent me a note that said there was ranting about. Nasa and the department of defense working together having another red scare? Somebody wrote me a letter, which is I mean, if you're gonna leave the podcast, that's the way to do it. That was pretty funny in a holy cow. I have like I've influenced somebody so much in some way. Upset them so much that they completely wrote me a letter and left podcast. It's not funny. But it's it was weird to me when I got that I was like holy cow. Took me seriously about that. So I gotta make sure to do disclaimers every once in a while. I'm like, I'm just joking about some stuff man joking about little Rian men on other planets. Sometimes the serious stuff. We gotta talk about. But most of the time, it's just fun science in education stuff. And that's what I want everybody to, to understand. Is it like this? If you listen to this right now, make sure to follow it should follow the podcast, if you like it if you like this kind of conversation, make sure to follow the podcast. It's never like it's never super serious. I would never be that guy that's going to be Mr. science man. And cramp faxed on your throat this all about fun. It's all about having a good time together and a joint science and talking about these things these topics you'll love. I'd love to talk about this stuff and I'd love to learn about everything in the cosmos, including here on earth. We have problems, so we bring those up every once in a while. Sometimes it's deep some most of the time, it's guilty. Maca. You know, I'm not the science communicator guy that is going to be all wacky. I'm not I'm not that guy does not who I am. Pretty easy. Trust me. Give me in the right mood. I'm an absolute. Goofball, but. Shows about enjoying ourselves and having fun. So. See if the space station contacted me back yet. Nothing yet. Nothing yesterday station. No, nothing yet. Unfortunately, so we'll have to find out about that. We'll have to find out if we could turn the space station and point it towards Mars. What if I know any rocket scientists off the top of my head here? I gotta know somebody. It's gotta be somebody in my Twitter feed somewhere, I could ask him about it. Got wonder if it's even capable if the space station is capable of flying to Mars in its current form, probably not more than likely. It doesn't have rockets on it. That'll shoot it there. But if we strap some rockets on that sucker. Pointed towards Mars, pull the trigger. Let's go see what happens to it. Puts people on their first martians. There we go. Guess martians have little escape pod for him to launch themselves from the national space station down to the surface of Mars. First martians. We got. Would be amazing. I can't wait for us to start doing missions demars with people that we don't really have to do Mars missions with people. It would be better faster, if we were to discover on Mars with humans with shovels. Said a waiting, you know weeks for a reply from our science lab. We just have to take a whole another hole. And, you know, scout Martian surface. From there. Put it in the thing in the science lab crank it up to science that run overnight. Whatever we gotta do how long it takes. And then if that didn't work out we just walked back take on the shovel scoop it up. Do it again with the current Rovers. We give it a mission to do instead of. Taking minutes to get ten or fifteen feet. It takes days to get that far hours far. So. Having people if there's very very. Positive. The really cool. I'd be excited about that. That'd be the first life on Mars that we know of human life. And if we did mean we have a ton of science done very quickly. If we have humans on Mars. We can learn if there's anything in the Martian soil, if there's anything that did live in the Martian soil. Much faster than if we. If we. Sent a Rover up there. Case niki. How's it going? So, yeah, you gotta think about that. Would it be better if we have humans on Mars, probably, I think it'd be awesome. Now. My friends. Like I said, before, if you like this kind of topic like space, science tech, make sure to hit the follow button, make sure to check out. Clip podcast. You can check that out at space news. Pod dot com. That's every episode is available on their on cast box. I have the cast box list there, the player, you can also check it out on cast box. On YouTube YouTube dot com slash space news. Pod. Also periscope. Periscope right now too. I totally neglected you scope. 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89. Evolving Your Corporate Development Function

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89. Evolving Your Corporate Development Function

"Hello america france. This podcast is brought to you by deal. Nays coming back to void whistle. Hunting devours manager axel traffic and building our reports. Do you want to make a process. More efficient fly-half used view dooms name management self. Say he time headaches and improves fabrications valley best learn more at beulah dot net your deal qissan patel. And you're listening to emanate science. We talk with deal professionals and learned valuable lessons from their experience. This podcast focuses on stories. Strategies were actually happened. During emanate deals. Science live but he together companies is complicated and taking them bar zeev a more complicated we take lessons from real practitioners and enable them through deal room our platform in this podcast series. We focus on interviews with leading practitioners to learn lessons from their experience. Learning proven techniques is keyed. Optimizing your practice if you're interested in learning more of connect with us at our networking events and access our educational resources at a science dot com. We have a newsletter where we put our events and podcasts. We do make sure you can subscribe to that as well again. That's m a science dot com. I'm your host keystone patel. Ceo and founder of deal room. Today i'm here with mike. Palumbo director of corporate development at halo brandon solutions. Mike is a corporate development and emanate professional with more than nine years of exposure to finance operations executive leadership departments of middle market companies today. Our discussion is about evolving. Your corporate development function mike to kick things off and he told me about a low and your role there halo brandon solutions are based out of a couple of hours outside of chicago. He's got offices all over. The united states promotional products distributor. So think about anything with a brand on it a mug a hat. A shirt tends chomsky items all sorts of stuff that you collect and gather stress all anything with a brand were the second largest player in the market but a twenty four billion dollar industry highly fragmented. I can't quote the numbers off the top of my head but something like a huge percentage of all the businesses and the space do less than a million in sales the Twenty four billion dollar industry. You've got a lot of small players. Mom and pop shops that distribute these types of products. So it's being number two in market share perfect situation for a roll up strategy being a platform in growing through acquisitions. That's a little bit about halo. I work in corporate development which is basically focused on mergers acquisitions strategic partnerships. Things like joint ventures. Although we don't do a lot of the ladder we'd do a lot of ama work at all falls within my purview. And it's a new role for us. The company is very old. It was that very old i mean. It was founded in the mid twentieth century and grew pretty well up until two thousand when they restructured the last twenty years of just really grown by leaps and bounds. Too great company. It's been great role you happy to delve in a little bit further into that keystone. You're the first higher on this team. Yeah that's right so maybe helpful. The mentioned that private equity owned fifth private equity ownership fund. Right now t p g growth that sorta led to my involvement with halos. Well they were a client. At william blair which i worked prior to being at halo. I was in the services and industrials group at eight year in investment banking. Worked my way up to william blair landed on the industrials and services group and sure enough. I remember my colleagues talking about halo. Deal was working on her staff down for those that are in banking or weren't banking. You know how very close knit everyone. Here's the deals that are going on around him. So i'm very familiar with the name. And they started recruiting. And i heard they're looking for corporate up position immediately rang a bell. Private equity owned historically been pretty self sufficient with positions. The current management team is very capable very strong in front of our ceo. Mark simon by trade. Cpa background tons of deal experience. So comes very natural for him to do deals. But i think they had gotten to a stage where you start to really grow as a business and you develop that needed for a dedicated person to come in on corporate development level and provide that support. The ceo can continue to ceo. Now contribute but you carve out that also you know. I know you've done a lot of work on a lot of interviewing one person teams. I know it's a pretty common can be common situation. Porco of a private equity group get to a certain stage and they need to hire corporate development person just by my interactions with your platform. I know that's not uncommon. So it's it's interesting. I wish to read name this podcast to surviving as the i corp they have higher. I tell ya there's some interesting substance there because we i've worked with a number of companies that don't have a corporate function at all and they obviously have an approach of getting deals done through various functional members getting it done by splitting the responsibilities up and then over time. They realized they need to build a more formal business lined to to handle them in a activity. So i i want to hear more about that. What was the evolution. Like since starting halo. Can you walk me through that. Yeah and that's exactly the situation that that we were in. That was how the company did thing you think about a business going from fifty million a hundred million in sales to eclipsing half a billion three quarters of a billion. There's a lot of stages there there earlier years. And when you're fifty million in sales or one hundred million sales that's how deals get done by the executives. They have the business intuition. They know the targets especially if they're doing stuff their own space and they usually have maybe some outside counsel and accounting person and someone from operations or something that can get a deal done and it's a very efficient way to deal. They do it themselves. That's how halo operated and they did very well. We prior to me joining. I think we've done twenty five plus deals last decade for me coming into a role. They're not doing much wrong. It's an interesting dynamic. So then what's so what's the inflection. Point right hey we're going to hire somebody in corporate development or we're going to dedicate a role to this. I don't know how that goes in other scenarios of the mind. I think you were interested in chatting about this is what is my situation specific. Look like and yet happy to walk you through that. You're the hotshot banker. I right away when like you. I would be like i think he is. He's coming in with excel models and he's supposed to build our ma function. That's why i'm interested to know how you evolve through that to actually get settled in corporate development role because obviously been there for a while. And you're still there. Yeah and we really interesting culture in the sense that you're really accountable for your own. Success or failure. Our management style is very entrepreneurial. And i don't think anybody any my colleagues at the c. Level director level sea level or the ceo report. I don't think anybody really had experience much. Experience dealing with a corporate development person. There's not much directive to give remember coming in and no one really telling you what to do. There was no directive. Who's just hey get comfortable. Learn the business. And then i'll be interested in what you mr palumbo have to recommend for our process and ways to make us better so it was really we talking about a blank canvas. It really was a blank canvas. I read a book. Which if anyone out there is switching roles or maybe getting promoted going new department. Switching companies called the first ninety days. I remember one of my first as coo. He's like you gotta read the first ninety days the ninety they plan. I think it's called. i wanted to. It's like harvard business review. Everyone's read it. Seemed like everybody to read it and it was immensely helpful for me. One understand the business meet the people number one number. Two and number three was understand the process that are currently going through being a banker coming from banking. You have that just innate. Desire to really understand the core business and i can't stress enough how important that is. What products are you selling. What services are you selling. What's the value proposition. We'll make your company better than its competitors. How does back office work in the supply chain. How does the sales team sell. What was their go to market when it sales guys out there sales guy gals out there selling. Why how i wanna meet these sales people wanna meet our department leaders want meet everybody in the business and just talk to them about the business understand. How works the model. How we make money what. Our competitive advantages are all sorts of stuff. That was really. I think number one. I'd spent thirty days probably interviewing department heads meeting people. Flying to this location drive is as pre covid driving to you. Know that location in meeting folks introducing myself and really just learning about the business. I learned a lot. But i still wish i would have pushed a little bit harder and that stage because this is vital information you talk about trying to go and buy a business. Are you. buy a business. Plug it into your business. If you don't even understand what what you're doing so vital the first stage is really understanding the operation of the business model so that makes said understand the business and really know the pieces that go along with it. What about the folks that were currently engaged with eminem activity. What was your interactions with them. Most people had interaction with them. A you're talking to department heads. T sweep they all had some sort of exposure. I didn't know what's going. In every time. I talk to people. They had questioned that integration. Which is an interesting point here. Always oh well help with integration on this and we do this really well in this we need a little help in or sometimes i'm confused on this or can you explain this to me but i know that i was going to get that when i talked to these people. I was thinking they're going to ask me about diligence and modeling data rooms. Not it's it's of the on boarding part because the integration and convergence. That's the part that they're dealing with. These are the business leaders have to implement all of the things that we promised during diligence and business planning strategic planning. We've set it up. Executives have set it up and then it comes time to execute me by by business execute. They've gotta deal with the actual implementation execution of that. That was number one. You hear a lot about immigration. And i was meeting people face to face i remember really being able to read a person or understand what kind of conversation i was going to have that net meeting with the department heads based on their body language. Some people would. I wanna to jump out the window when i said yeah. I'm court of element of i do mergers and acquisitions. They would want to hide under their desks or something. Other people berry excited to meet me. You can tell immediately based on the reaction their body language how their experience they've had with them in a what questions are you asking them to learn about. They're doing and what the challenges are experiencing. I was trying to ask all the same questions first of all. What's your department do so billing. How does billing work goes back to the point. I was making earlier and understand. The business. Part of it was a learning experience for me. What do you do hear much nicer way right. That's what's your involvement in and it was always some sort of integration or on boarding capacity which in itself is indicative of maybe. they should expand the role in diligence. Could they help out a little bit earlier to alleviate that pain a little bit later on. Could this person seems really siphon on billing or on order entry or maybe a back office tasks for sales are wondering. If we're leveraging that expertise during the diligence process so yeah it's it's pretty basic to understand what they do and their involvement in the process. Let me ask so you go. Through this process of formalizing corporate development function you plan your emanate processes armed with a good knowledge of business is number one foundation from there. It's your nudity organization. The first thing to do is recognize that. They're doing a lot right with that in mind. What are they doing right. You gotta be very careful not to jettison things that they're doing ryan try to replace them just because you feel like you need to change or not attempting to understand what they're currently doing right so that in a nutshell is understanding the process. The process that they go through to acquire companies. It's listening it's sitting down and it's whoever the resident experts were before you got there ever was working on deals before you got there. It's if you have that luxury is really work with them. Sit down an understand what they do and how they do it. There's this thing that you get the itch to want to jump in the action imperative you want to get in there and you want to wait a second. Why are you in asia like you. Just gotta really sit there kind of close your mouth and listen and really listen to what they're doing a walk through one two three processes whatever takes watch how they're doing things because you really need to identify first of all what they're doing right and how to preserve that and then where can you add to that now replace it got save. Those things are doing right and add better ways or enhancements to what they're already doing so it's understand our business and it's getting in there and understand the process you get their understand their processes any other like specific mechanical things or just. You're looking at the folks report up to the c. Suite the board members that look like what what are the actually done tangible to help evolve that function outside of learning the process and it started being introduced new things but what it looked like. Really formalized that then it becomes. Where do you start adding value until the stage. And i think i deliberately wanted. Explain it this way. You can any value until you've really understood what they do in the basics the basics the business and the basics how they do things then you can start offering insight and value. It may be a while until you can do that for me. it was. I had a really slow myself down. Not try to act quickly. You can run into a lot of issues. They're making bad decisions. And then losing friends and then losing credibility and then you continue to make more bad decisions versus the opposite right which is understand as much as you can. So the value that you're bringing is useful. And you're gaining credibility you're gaining allies political allies within the business and that's a virtuous cycle move. Its way up. So how'd you add value that once you've understood where they're at for us it was awesome myself and one of my close colleagues my fina. Who's our integration. We sat down. And we say we're going to create books. I'm going to focus on the corporate development playbook and he's going to focus on the integration playbook. He'd been there for several years. Prior to me joining. Tim and his brother owned a business that was purchased by halo and mike transition into more of an integration role. So he had a little bit of a runway but it was putting together a playbook from there. It's okay outlining the steps that they currently go through understanding the pains. The things are doing the right things. They're doing wrong then. Retooling that you're streamlining and you're trying to alleviate those pains in the back and i think what we did is we focused on it and actually i can pull up playbook you're not going to share it on the screen but please don't get me in trouble somehow or council comes after calling me. You mean letter into now like to hear a little bit about. What do you think of frame book because they feel like playbook salutes definition. I tend to criticize a little bit when they become extensive checklist they discouraged out of the box thinking. That's really needed anime. And that the quick on the feet responsiveness. So i'd like to hear about what's in your playbook and then maybe talk about sort of alignment of the people through the deal process. And i'd say book corp dev side. It was more of an educational tool for the executives the executive team and how we want the process to look recall of basic information that an investment banker might think is basically information but to them. It's it can be very impactful so it was starting with. What are the pain points. What are the things we're doing right. And then we carved out. Four key initiatives. Like four things that we wanted to do. How do we do that. The first thing that i turn to. And i don't know how right so i saw where we were with our process. I knew there was ways to make it better and to add to it ball. Preserving what they're doing right. The first thing that i think of is my network do i know from investment banking. My fiancee also was an investment banking and one over to corporate development so i was very lucky to be able to pick her brain network with her and how they do things. The first thing i think of is wait. A second people have figured this out. People have implemented this. They know what they're doing. Who do i know in my network. It can be a resource this time. He didn't really have this platform desanto. There wasn't that option. You're looking online. You're doing research. You're talking to people. And then i found your book actually. The agile emanate which had some very key points in it was that integration has to participate and diligence. Diligence one cohesive processor. Can't be that wall because that's where you get the break in communication. The people that are doing the diligence aren't communicating with the people that are doing the integration. So bring those two things together. That was one and then really work on your tactics. When it comes to implementing diligence it was establishing an internal cadence of meetings with our team and then externally with the seller scheme so we're managing were putting informal process to manage the diligence time line together and collaboratively makes us no barriers in communication. We also had a little bit of a focus on who's making decisions who's got the ball during a position where you've had a lot of people doing diligence who's consolidating and making a decision. How central versus decentral do you want your decision. Making process during diligence to be right. Think about the diligence process. You're going through understand business. Trying to raise any flags findings and bubble up the key findings and determine. Is this something that we can accept. Solve push off like how we handle these going into closing takes sort of the boots on the ground consolidate information but then when you bubble it up. Do you have the right team to look at that too that these findings and say okay this one were okay with this one. We're not okay with its final resolution. How much is this gonna cost so on. And so forth getting that internal structure in place of having a centralized decision making unit and a decentralized is team the gone diligence and really dig into their niche areas of the business that was one of our other key initiative so you focus on those things three four things and from there. You can take that building intact like tactics right flights or procedures. This is how we're gonna start things that we're gonna diligence. This is how we're going to communicate. This is how team is going to be structured. This when people are going to start getting involved the group was going to expand over time from those initials unfolded a number of good steps and stages that we implemented. So let me get this straight reading my book. Agile as solve all your problems. Yeah that's right. I basically just gave it all the team in. And i was laying guys again. I'm gonna go play the pipes now. We will play the back. I should make a prerequisite for these interviews. I'm flattered you mentioned it. I did like what you did. Where you just mentioned was how you spend the time to actually identify the pinpoints. A lot of what you described is essentially developing the operating model and and higher teams are connecting and working together. And how you mentioned that you from the book was having one unified process between diligence and integration defining And then other key piece was around decision. Making you understood the value of having a good process for making decisions. I like the we talked about the design of having centralized but then decentralized in the approach invoke actually executing. Those are really good areas and good tips anything else. I may have missed now. Those are two of the main points now. I i will stay. It's not everything. It's not exhaustive and these are concepts and these are abstract ideas. You just because you thought of it. Great 'cause identified a couple of areas where you can make. Improvements are like the focused. It doesn't mean a thing it fixed or to be implemented. People are going to adopt. It'd be aware of that right like you start with the low hanging fruit. It's going to be a process it's not going to be one fell swoop redesign all process. It's gonna take time to especially for me. Our diligence team is really. I'd say ten twelve people you know. Everyone wants to look into a couple of things to make sure that they're not inheriting a bomb when we buy business. You've got a lot of team members you think about new concepts and introducing these very sensitive to people reception of that some people here in really internalize others those year it and go back to their ways maybe not like it so there's one thing to talk about it come with ideas there's another thing to execute that's why i think that's where you come from. We talked about as the playbook just like a bunch of bullets and it is in that sense. It is in that sense. And that's the gap right is is great gonna book cool. Thanks student shelf and collect dust you got to execute it. You got to implement it and you've got to try to adopt for adoption and that has brought us. Well let's talk through that. Because you're approaching two years in this role billy corp the function from scratch. What were your key challenges. Along the way one of the main ones it was conviction. It's hard to explain. But it's kevin conviction and your process and why you should do things a certain way. 'cause what you're going to get confronted with whenever you trying to change something whenever you try to improve process that's what we're doing here. Is it a process of a company. There's a little bit of that. Structural like who's the team. And how they organize organizing. How do they communicate a little bit structure. But it's mostly the process the steps that you go through and went and when you're trying to implement something like that change something the question you're always gonna get is the will. Why not just do it the way we always did it it works. You will always get that for me. It's become just a have. But anytime i want to suggest a change or improvement or an addition extra work you even. If you're trying to add value you might be creating extra work for somebody. It's why not just do it the old way in my first six months. I couldn't answer the question. I didn't have the conviction to have the real life experience. I was coming in from an investment bank new corporate development role. I don't have corporate experience. i couldn't say well. Hey that's what they did over here a google and it works great. I couldn't say well. I'll read in a book if you are going to make a recommendation and trying to push for change area. You've got to really answer that question. Why not just do it. The old way internally struggle that is just a ton. And i don't think they answer. It has to be complex but you gotta deliver with confidence and conviction and without having any experienced in corporate development which is much different than investment banking in my view a number of ways. There's a lot of similarities. Obviously but the team component the process is much different banking at now. I'm going to say that was conviction. That was probably one of the biggest struggles. I like that. I think it's a lesson that took me while to learn and wish. I learned earlier but essentially giving people the reason. Why if you're looking for somebody to do something or make a change. You gotta give them a reason. Why a lot of times we forget that step. I've learned this even as a parent with children. Like you gotta give them a reason. Why even they're smart enough not to take response or action on on just those directives but if you could give them a reason why two lines well i know. There's a lot of scientific studies around this and human behavior on how you influence others by driving. In with the reason why bad sort of bills onto that theme around having convection in your class and i still struggle with that. I struggled that all that the reason you want to get you wanna steal it well. That's the way it's supposed to be done. And that's what i read. That's i come on man a better than hold up. It's kinda try telling that to the ceo of illness a billion dollar or it's not a good reason to give people and it's not so you've got to think really think about how is just gonna not just to you know. These are great ideas. We believe in the process because we come from property development folks. Most of them come from banking or from some sort of process driven role. And it's ingrained in you and you see happening. We've got look into the numbers this way. We've gotta use this sort of this sort of data room tool the. Do you have these things that just worked in the past so seems like work. It feels like it should work now. It looks like it'll work now but you've always double check always make sure you've got the real reason you really thought about hold on is. Is there a different way to do. This is there a better way to do it. Or is this an area where we have to institute. Change has leave it alone. You know man. Sometimes i'll really think somebody's a great idea with the process. And i think the way we do it is fine. It's for what we need to accomplish her goal in mind for what we really need to accomplish. D really need to do that. We'll talk more about driving change. I think that's an important topic. What was your biggest challenge. Like what was really. He could be honest with me and the potentially thousands of people are going to be listening to this later. But what was the real thing that you struggled with in building out the corporate function as a single person that one of them. I think just not knowing what to do that was never in. Corporate development is an investment banking. And you understand things like how to model something of project. Financial statements have run a data room how to manage data room. How to complete diligence in a timely manner how to organize get people organized had ask questions talk people how to pick up the phone and get stuff done. How be efficient how to work hard. That's all very helpful and corporate development. That's not the end that's not. It's not all similar right. There's a lot of things in corporate development working within a corporate structure and trying to get sign off and decision making done get on people's calendars that are extremely busy doing their day job. It's all new. Here's a great example. You're the buyer instead of the seller in many cases so most bankers come from southside. Emini going to hear about the difference between your deal process that blair verses where you're doing a halo. Yeah great question. That's one of the main differences you're used to selling versus buying huge change. I had the situation today. Somebody semioli just say. Here's what we're going to. Dylan's well what do you do next. What's the next and then coming from investment banking. We knew what to do with an ally when we received one from a buyer. But when you're the buyer and you've got get. The team stood up orchestrate. The team who should get involved in when and why who's going to be doing accounting to diligence. Are you gonna reach out to the salary. What are you gonna stay. Who from the internal team is going to do what. It's all really under your purview. And it's a much different setting that up the haven't done that before. It's a whole new set of steps that if you're not coming from corporate development how do you know that. How do you know what to do and wine. And what's the best you can guess. We're all smart. You can make really good decisions and try to do. You think it's appropriate. But i always think somebody's figure this out. There's a lot of ways to do this. There's only one bath way you always wanted to achieve that that you can't let basket in the way of just doing well so it's a good way to do this. How do i do. That's all new stuff and challenge when you come into a role like this without much experience. So i'm wondering if you're working on the sell side and you're helping companies best you're interacting with buyers. Don't you have some insights in terms of the difference in sophisticated buyer unsophisticated buyer and some of the nuances. Where this guy should have really done this on the buy side or done this diligence. I feel like you would have some interesting insights work in the south side and on top of that wanna criticize a little bit because they feel like a corp deb needs a diversity and sometimes howdy folks from the business. Unit bald with cooperative obviously has some values. I'm curious no like where's the strength and weaknesses. Come in because i think for you. You mentioned of the challenges was learning the business and getting involved where that as opposed to people that are already bought the business. No it wondering if there's some of these nuances that you do bring the table outside of skills on modeling deals but i feel like being on the other side of the table. There are some points that you do understand about a buyer. What kind of buyer will be my first question at. William blair is a lot of financial sponsors. There'd be digging much different way than a strategic would add talk. Probably number one. You got a lot of followers. I'm sure they work in an array of different types of non-banks types of industries. If you're used to dealing with financial sponsors you know the questions that they're gonna ask and they're the associated and put a list together and send it over to you for the investment with the goal of creating a dachsie. Investment committee was heavily based economics with a strategic. You just a broad variety. Different interactions when you're in investment banking. I remember back when i was at city capital. We had a strategic. Look at a deal and there was a mess. It was like fifteen people and they wanted us to come out. They wanted to come out and visit our client the seller. They wanted to come out and visit for two weeks and just sit in the conference room and pour over files and talk about things and it was everything. Bought the financials. That's one interaction and other strategic depend on how frequently they're they're doing deals and who's at the helm kind of a similar approach as the private equity group but more often than not. It's a different. They're buying it for a different reason. Sort of questions are going to be different. Me coming at halo. From william blair. I was out very used to the question that you get from financial sponsors kat it so you got some insight in terms of. Hey here's some different levels that that buyers operates and do their diligence now get into was when you go into your role your role. What is the first thing that you're doing to establish credibility. It's not make mistakes that cuts down a little bit. It's truly to not make mistakes. It's don't let that action imperative win. Don't feel the need to jump in too early. there's a balance here. 'cause you you've just been hired. Your goal is to get up that learning curve and start adding value to the business where you're the value that you add is greater than the cost to the enterprise. Your costs that enterprise. So there's this need. I gotta get the learning curve adding value. I got this question on chat that sort of relates around the decision making earlier. I see razz. Here's asking if you had decision making frameworks processes that you've used a recommend already come up with some of your criteria with decisions need to go up there. That's a tough one. I feel like the ones that people. When i talked to people that do decision making frameworks. You tend to go on a rabbit hole on those things. And i feel like end up with more people and more complex criteria than you actually need. I don't really have a frame. I have a framework and how to prioritize work. My what. I wanna make decisions on next when a decision needs to be made and what needs to be escalated very delicate balance. Right part of the value that you add is autonomy and taking things and just making decisions. But you can't make the wrong decisions. I think i got a pretty away to answer this. You're not going to be able to make a lot of decisions in the beginning. You're going to have to sit back. And listen related to defer to other people and s quite a lot of the time. And that's okay. That's okay as long as you're learning and you're trending in the right direction. I remember the first six nine months. I was calling a lot of people out for other people to sit in on things and deferring just a lot. Because and that's okay as long as you're trending because what you don't wanna do. The alternative is that you try to make an uninformed decision or a bad decision it turns into a vicious cycle. You wanna get small wins early. Avoid any sort of negativity early. On so i if you have to learn about the business to the point where you can start making more and more and more decisions over time if you're afraid to make that decision because you don't know you know the answer you don't make the wrong decision at least earlier on forego making a decision and escalated into for interesting view. I feel like decision making. I'm writing notes on this. Because i think this is the topic of its own. It actually be a fun one to do around table just to get inputs in different organizations and how they approach it because they think it's very much rooted with the company's culture now that's why it just uniquely evolves organization organization. You do learn that. I don't know the answers to everything. Some of it is also trying to know the answer to something that you probably. Maybe it's not your call trying to overreach trying to make a decision around that really. There's experts that deal with that part of that. Learning process in the furring process is to learn who the experts are and what areas if you're confronted with a decision and you know there's two outs puts out there that worked on that. Your team leverage their knowledge and bring them in and adds support. How can i help you make this decision. If a team that seems to be unorganized or a lack just general communication process. What what can you do the leader to help alleviate those problems that's tough because you're gonna run into people that everyone has a different communication style. You gotta understand their communications down to meet them where they live number one. Especially if the boss or somebody that's perio- we've got a comedy them. I often feel like. I'm bothering somebody. But what's really helpful is talking to people making sure that you're communicating often enough and having meetings and you've got to do a quick call in the morning or if you've got a loop somebody into the meeting even if you don't know that they should be there or not. I go through do it anyways just to get more communication rather than last. It's a little uncomfortable. Sometimes people don't want to be looped down. They don't communicate that way err on the side of the more inclusive than exclusive and turning developing a rhythm or cadence with with that people come around eventually. There's a number different ways attack. There's different tools you can use. There's precedent you can set up. Maybe that person has the wrong person to be working on something. It'd be example. What have you done really creates value. These are i the general gist of it. I'm just curious. What are specific things. I want to get the little nuggets for the other person in your shoes. That's the first day of the birthday function. How can make some dramatic changes so identifying the right structure that you need the right people. You need to get involved. That's number one getting to know those people very well. You're gonna be working with them getting the right process in place. Just wishing some sort of framework in alignment on bad process. It can be very simple stuff. I think i was just talking to a colleague today. We were talking through. Give it a live example. We were talking through a small like an akwa higher. That's just get together on this guys. I've got the right team in the room. Just try to due diligence here in three phases. We're going to focus on accounting. That's the long poem as we round that corner start doing. More on boarding. And operational sort of confirmatory diligence and then we can start preparing for clothes and drafting announcements announcement. So something as simple as that sort of a process setting three four five milestones giving everybody alignment same page. That in itself does wonders for adding value and putting order an organization into a process. That can be very complicated high anxiety. Lots of moving pieces easier said than done. What are some tools and tips to the trade. that help you get there on the process. Run a war on a tangible to hear that allied just getting people lying down the same process when you have especially folks that are all salad off in different parts of the organization. They have different ways of working within their teams and you're trying to rein them in to work cohesively as a team when they may even have their own cultures within their own team that are unique and they just don't work with each other regular basis. That's a really good question. The first thing is to define a. Hey listen. I was involved in diligence or asian. What's important what are the top two or three. Thank you understand what everyone wants to look for lists go then you gotta check what's going like things that people wanna accomplish and make sure that everyone sees it for man. It was absolutely vital. Start using deal room. It was one of the tools that we brought into. This is not plugged by the way i want. Think bad just lost that. But i just mentioned. There is a level of bias. Because i've been involved with the creation of that product. I would like the good bad. Because i think there's benefits of it but i always believe there's no we're never close to perfect. There is a lot of room to grow. And strive for perfection. So i would be curious to understand what tools you're using. Obviously we have a product that you use mithras other products outside of that and then just hear the good bad of those yet really. Any sort of project management tool kind of goes back to difference between corporate development banking banking. We're used to using a data room to load files in and usually requests returned back on an excel spreadsheet or something. Yeah it can become a mass. We have twelve different buyers and they're all asking similar questions. And how does it all line up. And we've used multiple bedrooms over the years but any project management tool where you can create a list of do's and have people check that off work through it as highly valuable tool for us in diligence and as we started using it during diligence the integration team sauce using it and said wow i have a huge integration checklist they're using smart sheet for integration. I believe and now i. I'm pretty sure they've full. Switched over to our our current platform which is dealing but what that brings any sort of platform you use. What's bringing visibility okay. Where is everybody at on what they're doing. Who's working on. What because it's not just assigning a task. This was a new concept. It's not just the signing a task to somebody do this. 'cause every task is cross functional so it might involve hr but finance also has a very big decision to be made with that compensation plan it could involve supply chain if they change it up. Then how is it. Gonna change of our ops are customer service process. So when you're looking at a business. There's a lot of cross functional issues if you don't have organized in a way where everybody can see what everybody is working on. Whether it's an excel spreadsheet or a project manager platformer dealing them or whatever. Then you get people working in silos. People are just talking past each other. They're not on the same page with things. They they might have two different answers. If i ask. Hey what's the plan. For the three employees one person might say something different than the other person to horrible for trap get caught in is not having that intercommunication. I'm here in real time. Views on progress and then intercommunication or maybe referred to as operation. I want to hear a little bit about that. Because i i've seen a lot of teams were their functional lead tend to work in silos which ends up. Here's a template list of items that i used from the previous deal. I'm essentially doing a check. Box activity looking for the media. Tuesday tomorrow type of rhys and the reality is they need to be able to connect with their other peers and different functional leads to be able to connect the dots and identify the underlying risks and opportunities in the deal. I'm curious if that anything that you've worked with or seen changes in. Yeah absolutely there needs to be a quarterback there needs to be somebody to bring everything together a conductor a big orchestra guy. But i know that the the conductor plays a large role. Big football fan. Go pack so i. I know that the quarterback has really important role. The only way around this is to commute is communication. It's the only way that this at the silo. Issue get solved. It's making sure that you're communicating communicating communicating. And what i found is that calls and emails don't get answered all the time meetings. I was when i was coming into the role. I try to set up a meeting and be like in my next availability is in two weeks. What you can't just am eight to five and you wanna talk to the sap. It's gotta be two weeks from now doesn't work. You can't get everything done with phone calls meetings and emails. You've gotta have some sort of consolidated consolidated to people can logging at their leisure and track stuff. They're getting reminders they're getting. It's just another form of communication to make sure that everybody is understanding what everybody else is doing. That's the only way to get around it. Project management tool realtime progress views improve collaboration slash communication. Any tools. chattels anything else for us now. now really. I mean we have teams but we don't use it very often. We were big opti billion. People work on teams. You'll remain the teams. If he doesn't know that. I think i might have heard that. We don't use teams very often. We got a handful of people that will use it but resumes enough for us during the pandemic and so it was like before and after because you said they weren't using anything before when he stepped on the scene introduced handful since you came in and a lot of this was lying around process and being able to put those process flows in the tool to to help get people in the same age. Walk me through the difference. Why i'm curious before he got it there almost two years ago and today what would you say are the main differences. Your company actually approaches. I wouldn't even look broadly. The approach emanate that's different before they had a corporate function. Anyone what it's doing today. I think the difference today is the organization and the up front preparation just alone the planning knowing what to expect even if somebody's doing the same amount of work today as they were before i was around even samina work just being prepared and organized it takes things and stress level from like nine down to it too because they know what to expect the understand. What's going to happen. They're not scrambling just thought of like. I don't know i don't know handling this. And what's the next step. Like i can know my immediate task. But where's this going to go afterwards and then you start thinking about all the things that are to be do down the line. It's in your head you're thinking there's no plan attack money of this. It raises that anxiety and stress level to a whole 'nother level even though it doesn't do any good sound like you get any extra work. It's the same amount of work is knowing that it's organized and taking care of thought about and planned out it's helpful highlight to think that as we progress and as we get better with our process to halo. I'm hoping it's just gonna be. People are excited about in joy and we wanted to do more of its creating issues or additional stressor anxiety. I like that reduce improving confidence getting your team. Members and seeing these functions don't evolve so simple and easy they take a long time. We did the interview. You can disco even after two hundred plus deals. They're still innovating in rethinking. Their emanate approach. Which brings me to you. Mentioned an integration and there is a lot of emphasis on integration. That folks you talk to your surprise where their top of mine was around the integration activity which i feel like the theme the last two years of interviews round of emphasis of integration. That's the maker. Break it point of the transaction. What's your approach to working with immigration. I'm most respect for integration folks to hold other realms somebody did the work and a cool company by then he thought over the fence and and you guys gotta go make this work and actually deal with these employees and send messages communicate with them and change their benefits and it's an awesome position in a ton of respect for our integration team. That's where a lot of the pain could come from. You don't diligence dealer certain way or you overpay a little bit usually not the end of the world but with integration. If it's done poorly it can be a nightmare for. Everybody can taint the deal. It can people quit. You're gonna leave a permanent sour taste in somebody's mouth on the other. Maybe this the sellers team. It's gotta be done well for us. It was starting with integration. And what can we do earlier on even before billions before the allies signed. Even when we're forming our pipeline. What can be done at those earlier stages to make better for the immigration people and our number one solution. Get them involved early. Bring them in. They're going to have to deal with the on the back anyways. Whoever if their department is leading that charge him as an integration leader and get them involved. One call is all it takes diligence. Well a couple of questions whatever it may be just get them involved. No the timing. We'll see the updates. There have to be in every meeting or be deeply involved in the diligence process but they can see common common. They're you know they're much more comfortable instead of. Oh hey by the way. We bought a business today. That's not you wanna approach that. But that's how we like to handle integration ona's payload headquartered in a pretty rural part of illinois impact all of this. I'm just curious. Did that give you a nature of the current environment of working ramon or were there other nuances and challenges with it just curious if there's something around that nature which i think's a bit unique. Yeah it is not having a face to face presence and this is pre code. I think we're all experiencing this now. It's probably the same shot that everyone here's had to switch from going to means of being remote. I think i would go. Maybe once or twice a month visit folks not got a bunch of meetings and come back home and work remotely. It didn't really get much in the way of the day to day. We're talking with so many people not only in sterling but we have offices all over. We have fifty forty fifty offices all over. The united states are chief of integrations in new york. We've got our one of our main. Sales leaders is a ohio. So we're pretty much remote anyways and actually the pandemic has helped in that sense because now instead of calling we actually see each other's faces on doom very interesting somewhat similar challenges that that very very similar. It's nice to see like the operations and to be able to be in person for that. Sort of stuff we've got a fulfillment center see how people interact and actually meet people very big but you can. You can do that by a couple of visits here and there us question. What's the craziest thing you've seen in other than the william blair Quoting dinners heard. I gotta tell ya people. I could probably name drop That i've heard stories about epic clogging. Yeah but that's not really an event that's more of an extracurricular right and that's not that we we have some awesome with saloum on one. We when golf scottsdale for a couple of days do some ski trip and deer valley to napa wine like a three day napa wine twenty. They had some really incredible closing events. Hard work put in and they really wanted to appreciate everyone's hard work so those were pretty awesome. But i think real. I'm a crazy story. Yeah the city capital. We sold jayco an rv business to four a publicly traded. Are the consolidator. Jayco was a family business. Just third jenner. I think second or third generation started in a chicken coop in indiana and grew to be a huge copy very successful business. We sold the company to thor. Being privately held in generational business had a big family. The owners was two brothers. Their mother was still a little bit involved who had started the business with her husband and all their sisters and kids and grandkids. And i remember we close. The deal sold the company for. I think it was five hundred. A public announcement is five hundred. Seventy six million or somewhere around there. We drove to indiana to meet the whole family and a conference room. We brought checks. Somebody brought checks. I think it was one of the brothers to tell people. What here's your chair of the business. Or here's what you're gonna you're gonna receive from the sale of our company we sold to always going to be a great steward of the business and by the way. Here's how much we sold it for years. Your check and it was incredible. People were crying and hugging us. And just the nicest people on their. Don't get to see that when you're in a deal causes a Guy goes by the boat or whatever but this was a family generational family from four generations in the room are five generations in the room. This was the culmination of generations of work. And they're seeing it and they're feeling it and there. It's changed their life. And i felt. Like i was on oprah or something you know. You're like ed mcmahon dollar you get a million dollars you can billion dollars even better that would be credible who's cool. Wow that was like the most positive story. I think. I've heard this podcast was wild man. There's a lot of not so positive ones but that's one of six my mind. Am i thank you for sharing that great story and sharing your lessons and experience with us today. Thank you happy to join. Been wonderful conversation. Thanks for the opportunity. The got nice plug for mike fina to get on the podcasts and share his view from the integration side. So i think we're not follow up with him and interview scheduled. I told him. I said you gotta come on in and share everything that i said. I'm done actually delivering side. I want him to other sided. Ambala reported perspective. We're publicly putting him on obligations interview. Thanks again my thank you. Here's the deal. Thank you for taking the time to explore the world of manet with our podcast. Please subscribe for more content conversations with industry leaders. He like our podcast. Please support us by leaving a five star review and sharing it. I enjoy hearing feedback in connecting with our listeners. You can reach me by email. 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Marmon fucking become you can do. I can't do it. I mean it was come out sooner or later anyway. Let's talk about me know man. It's a hard thing i know. I know you gotta be very diplomatic but but you can still answer you answer without being like i see what you're doing now ocean we're gonna be talking about. He could just simply said. Listen if you normally. I knew you knew that. That's not him all the time that that would be the best thing and you say he does he remember about it but that's not him all the time and i'm sorry that you had to see that side of him while human beings we all say things like that to date things come out. I mean internet ray his crazy. That's good yeah. I i know how to ask you. Could you could the moment but the internet ago Sounds like you just covering for him. You just as bad. And that's what you see. You see this sell negro right here and see and then as you come fuck. Now you've got a nurse get you try to be nice. We wanna keep talking about this. What you look at man. I know has been issued. How you need to work for that country singer o people. Yeah we're gonna get into what we talking about tonight salon in trouble. I gotta even have that and it's funny. I didn't know anything about it. And my good friend james night. Call me to want to talk about it just right before the show of course and actually that was nice. You know what from man save the. I wanna hear what is going on with that. Hey everybody how you now. You're doing a day. Wow these lasts rethought people of you know what introducing chen in a big way in a proper way. So i gotta say somebody says somebody came in and just say got damn norbreck come on. Y'all damn iraj is one thing. But i knew was good. I knew i knew with was not. That's not even both anger. Oh that's right new beau fake. I knew i knew it was going to be. And i said if i don't see both going to be disappointed. No it damn. And i'll take both kit. Yeah it wasn't bo. Ping ping who was the market was the steve martin. Kid keep calling him in fact because that's what people say because people look at it they look at. You like look like both hanging looking at both. Frank is such a great name. Yeah yeah man. i'm cory. I'm a black nurse already. Been copyrighted yep. Black nurse already copyrighted. Clark coleman look at that on the black superman when i do this by tobacco. Sorry so yeah folks. You know what i started getting tonight without knowing i have my glasses on. I've been wearing night while i drive. Mostly because my wife brought up. And i was like man you know what about them. Use sure pay enough money for him. Yeah so at night. When i'm driving. Put him on. Just because a smith money form. I don't use my whole life. So i came here tonight and forgot to take them off because martin make fun of me last night and decided more for a little while just introduction. The show one's gonna take him off tonight. I forgot i had a mom. So you don't believe me how well fuck you too meet anybody there. They go somebody somebody by say you know you see. You know who did yeah. We won't talk about that. We talk about that folks guessing some things to talk to you about actually some things that might be changing around here but as i say let's go ahead and welcome. Who make this show peabody. Get on my nerves with the people who make no actually keep me kind keeping supported the peace of the double edged so it is but the people who make this show. What is of course. I'm talking about the one. The only give them a huge round of applause. The check pam starring the. Og chad in themselves bitches over there let me see here. We got color simply called color. That's a new person. All right you know how this new person. 'cause i can say the name easily true. It's not it's unattached emotion. Yeah race in collins like nine zero l. I'm like that Let's see here. Austin is here are the strange. What is this cares. Cosmic cosmic cavs make the funny thing about these glasses that they don't work close up. Yeah yeah so. I have to take them off because i can't i can see better over here. That's the thing. Because i thought all right. Well i got new glasses me my wearing on the show and i'll help and i was like yeah. This is not helping see better. No no people now that mob shit like this radius where the monitor is and where you are. That's sort of my sweet spot. So i can see everything perfectly better without him but i take them owner. Read you guys names over here. So we got brandon. Weirdo is crusader. Go crew said blaze up in here danny. At santos some new people up here. Joe salon the retro couple. How you doing up here. Angry asian of course an ace rocked by the rock. Don't stop elisa's up in here. Oh guppy kills thank you for the subscription right. There look at them to check. My glasses bypasses help me. Man i gotta find out what the new thing That a christian harlem was talking about could take calls from people. Oh stereo. Stead stereo upstate. Jesus that was easy. She's going to hear it. Yeah people Somebody said what's up hamas. Let's let me be frank. You frank last night let me see. Oh who who was that man in his chair. I'm backyard so we're going to let you know what is happening with. The show was going to be on the show today. As soon as y'all well you know what you gotta do. Close down almost there. I don't wanna start talking and all of a sudden y'all interrupt run a train through my compensation announcements. So if y'all are actually able it came school goo goo. You've done it again. He rode hog. Magoo should be run a straight in the trains. Yes what i said. Man good was the best. I love except for having the asian houseboy. That's right that's right. you should of did. Why couldn't see. Yeah penises here grab it for me and before about. The box had a warning like air. Some grateful stereotypes. But i was like. Oh come on watching. The i was like oh were still type was high on the board. The high up y'all doing today. Hi boston yeah. People all look a doll studio again to talk to in. The house wilma people. We have a foolish. We would bill the show we have you. What are you talking about a movie review for what is a historic history making studio ghibli bleacher air wing in the witch also coming to america to came. Even though we talked about the first trailer even moves right around the corner. He's got to say about the second trailer. Radiate tough to come over also get a lot of emails from people in the chat. Tomba this boy little lose advert bohannon yes. I had people convert little uzi. Burt okay yeah you should know his name. Damn fool that he's done to. Oh people also that contra singer which would be. No new country said the n. words next kgo go felix. Look there's betty. Betty wilma rub money. Now you gotta get down knees. Dan bought editing long. Did not take long. Start putting this. I mean good are to start putting that the taller evil chicken luxury look at this. Not that i don't appreciate is that in the house. She shows up in the game. I wish said i wish he did. She did doing this sooner gay late there. That's that's span. Art right there are should me. That's ahmad. maybe that's the last part of the game that's the boss level rate. It's hard to beat her. Just went hand because you beat people on the go married them. Anthony maggie go through tatro own. Go on animated buzi up in here. What is that from. I don't know. I have no idea but like it on that dog with the worms worms. His as you're gonna take him to the vet way. I let me just film some more on that cat. Now you go yeah kevin. I'm here should feel me when cat when that cat and him pokemon titties come through his time. Oh jeez what do red red is higher all right. I'll put everything as rats catch dude brats rest. Oh there's denzel right. That's lucy burt right there. Little lucy vert a people. What what that boy due to his head coming. Get this spider off this truck. I keep telling you. Even though he's fucking look at it got it. Got it right so in case you couldn't hear all over all that highness that we just hit you with today's full show. That's why start a little bit late today. Because i got hit with a couple of things that i did not know. We're talking about to somebody. Just send it my way right when i was ready to go. Well we're gonna have of course a movie review today going to be talking about a studio studio ghibli movie a history-making studio ghibli movie. Is that a good thing. A bad thing because some people are saying limit both which side we fall on as we talk about your wig in the witch. Let me talking about the trailer trailer to for coming to america. Almost watch that today with. Don't mar- you can watch. It would not want it with you of i you to watch it again with me more. I can watch it again with you. People you get my repeated viewing opinion on this and you get martin fresh opinion. Get a natural fresh reaction from him. Step my old stale ass reaction here. Also let's see we got boy you write about their must see john david washington over the bar thing. Like hell yeah. Use me. Every time i get a new drink that's it. Thank you let me tell. Lucy burt in his head. What he did is head in that country singer. what's his knee back on. His name oregon. Yeah i mean not that. We were member for log for the for the little time. It's going to be for the next few hours eight. He has left. His korean are does he. We not things people. We're talking about a wall. A mortgage wallin. Morgan wanted talk about him off. You haven't heard them before you probably damn ship them now and went out trump tearing it up and dominating the news if you fuck up now even a minor. Fuck up is everywhere. Yeah y'all my one of my one calm down a little now. The heat is trump. everybody's is exposed every little thing. This dude he does need look before you do some stupid just going to house and lock the door cut off all the lights and said i'm only repeat this shit when we get to the actual segment. Because i need. I need to because everybody because the way this well. We'll talk. We'll talk about the way went down there. Were just like damn. Y'all got him like that. I know like i quick myself. I'm going crazy right now. So much stuff going on y'all. I'm ready to dry things happening here. So i'll tell ya see here. Somebody's are you fucking kidding me. I i'm not going off. Nobody's somebody i'd rather have. Oh oh no you exactly right. Somebody say i'd rather have a boring president than a crazy ass president. Yeah i'm not complaining. Yeah y'all forgot how. How cool boring was no boring. Be whatever that's why they vote abide and they say all do trump only two years younger. Yes crazy that full membership and if he should have never been anywhere near the white house. Yeah well getting enough crazy. People voted for him should did and still out there yet. Still out there. Aren't there barking. How come i. I was reading a whole big thing about clarence thomas his wife. Oh she's dead bitches insane yes even when she was around she looks oh. I read a comment. That had me laughing so bad because they got clarence. Thomas look down all the time all the time man always looking like a black droopy. I wish i could find somebody. Put a comment on this picture. Because i saw this picture on in basel one day in the cause. Of course clarence. Thomas is probably the one them was infamous uncle. Toms we have right now. Yes city his name is thomas and his name. Is tom slept. Take off that asset. Yeah man me. See here clarence thomas bitches and his wife is insane to put clearance bitch tom. Yeah the whole stuff. She's been spouting on their newsletter and now the everything is settled in the insurrection at the capitol. I just want to apologize and hope that that people haven't been too offended by all my pro-trump words and and that we can heal and you'll have mercy and forgiveness for the rest of us know Funny i wonder if you would have been the same way. They had things gone a different way. They got oh. I'm on void political. Just praying unease off. The everyone will see that the election was stolen. Fuck fuck her and fucking in fucking to man. I'm gonna get blue. But these motherfuckers out here but i don't believe that white privilege exists. They just let it go to mexico. Who who's who is charged. They'd let a flight risk. They let this bitch go to mexico talking about i have a. I have a business trip. It's a it's a an employee. Gets even johnson employee getaway or something. Yeah employees meet-and-greet. Yeah it's funny. How people can can suddenly act like will. Business is a perfectly good reason to circumvent the law yet. Yeah no beating and let her go. I don't wanna hear this shit. That ain't no double standards out there. They like okay. What i even without even thinking like she might not even come back. Sure and i know will stay in mexico that long i tell you that right now so man that's what they probably saw. She'll be back. I thought about that. That afla wins a kid when he him his mom dressed in disguise and to go to mexico they should just left there to see how long it would be before they came back crying. They should've they should've feed it. Like immigrants them. Stay there But there's chick man she got she. Let me look at this since. I'm talking about already. Put this on youtube. There's this chick here by putting riots go to mexico battle. Come up Okay maybe they said in the washington post. She has not been granted permission to go. But this eight hours ago but they see yet so maybe that got wrong. Maybe i was wrong. But i read earlier that she that she had been granted permission. Because i've been keeping up with this. I said i'll following this this ship to see if they let her go. Yeah i i gotta go to jail but can i go on my mexico trip. I yeah to mexico Maybe the place where people talk about when they say i'm fleeing the law. Let me go to mexico. They legally gave her a pass to flee if she wanted to. Because now you gotta have passports boys and said you just can't run to mexico like you used to see at the border. Now they say that. Yeah okay look i. I got passports specifically specifically to go to mexico when i was in california and then got over their head it ready to go. It was nobody. Attach know there. There was nobody landing the checkpoint over the bridge and went on in the okay. Yeah it's the woman involved in. The capital riot has not been granted permission to vacation in mexico yet. Hopefully that will not happen if there's news story or if this is picking up in the news with the chick's name is the fuck her name for storm. Us capitol alongside other quarters. What do you that Second sin a second row. Jimmy car jimmy could. Oh okay. we'll tell. Genie could not go to these. This is stupid man. 'cause i read early and people were hot over this way and so i guess the story got out wrong but you can't fucking let her. What kind of message are you sending. We'll plus an employee retreat. What companies still employing her after this. Yeah she lied. Retreat retreat from a. But i think she's she's self employed. Maybe not employees retreat. Was once you create a already told me why. Pay myself i. She does the company. I employ myself as a tax shelter. And i can't do that either. yeah she does. The business in the midst know what we all need to retrieve mexico. We did get away from all this craziness that people have started the fuck. No hell no. What kind of what kind of message are you sending these people. That's fucked in the first place. Now because because they knew that they've been able to do shit and have no repercussion. If we do this. Nobody's gonna do. Nobody's gonna do anything. Yes she owes the company. I can t she planned that fucking retreat right out and ran the next day right after she saw after you saw the news calling them insurrectionist f. You see people talking about fbi searching for a retreat. Yeah they mexico. Sound nice donor hunting. I need you to pack all my stuff. Just just pack a bag. The fucking what you absolutely have to have for the next eight to nine months retreat from justice. What you fucking doing get outta here man and none of these people need to be let go. There was only one time with somebody call racism as well. That actually makes sense what they do because it was. It was a whole article. Look i could be wrong. I'm just. I'm just telling my thanking here. They said you see you. See the double set. We know there's a double standard but somebody said you see racism right here you see. They let the notebook woman as a woman who broken blows that no book signature to russia right. We're talking about communism marxism and yet you stole that shit to get my secrets to russia dumb bitch. But they said you look look and see they. They let her out on bill. But this black guy right here. They kept as in. You see how that works. And then as i read later said see this black guy who they say is homeless and crazy like well. He he kinda where he's better off. I mean homeless ankarlo. They all crazy but they say they straight up saying that. now he's he's ill He and he's got nowhere to go. And i'm like well of course it could book deal. Where's he going to do like mandalay to me. I'm not trying to argue with the devastated. Still exist but let's not use this example. You'll see him in the crowd to because he looked crazy. 'cause there's a sea of white peop- is a white people who just looking at all right like your eyes are drawn to him a fucking crazy dude. Yeah man so. I thought maybe there was the case but turns out. Looks like they did not let her go. We'll see what happens tomorrow. Yeah def all right. I will let you go this one time but make sure you come back on a system right with anybody be surprised. That's the thing. yeah she. Yeah there's a lot of people asking for knows as one do have another dude. Who was in the insurrection in a riot. As goddamn mob insurrection. They they Had one dude. He's he's he's the baggy said. Well i wrote a note and said i'm sorry. Can you just let me do community service. The the sad thing about is that where in any other situation you'd be you laugh your ass off you. you hear. you're like fuck. They might let them. Yeah yeah man Like in any way we hit it talk about which is african princes in rappers with bugging bangs embedded in there for people. Get to that salinas. Not the big story anymore. What mr years me and say did you see. Let me put this here so you can see this cord. Did you see that. They put out an amber alert for chuck. Chuck the okay. So here's the thing. Here's here's what it is and it might have been in texas where they started dallas but they want to test the system and so they put up a us a fake photo for test the system and they use the chucky. they might use to pitchers. Two different pitches a chucky and it wouldn't supposed to go out it was just something they would test them. Within insular put ambler wouldn't twenty eight year. Old child occurs doll. Who's holding a weapon in wearing overalls at a striped shirt. Look at chuckie age. Twenty eight years old race. Other doll is blue hair. Red auburn wait. Sixteen pilots height. Three one gender male. Yeah chucky has been making the news lately in so many places. So i thought people it's time for a comeback. So what happened back. Maybe this is all those all like marketing promoting a series tampa chuckle series coming out. Oh that's right. Yeah as a chucky show coming out so maybe this show. I conducted amber alert. Listen to this shit. amber learn. Sit texans last week warned. That a child had been abducted by chucky a twenty year old male with red and blue who stick his three inches tall is race was given as other doll alert which was set by mail. On friday warned of a sixteen pounds suspect wearing a blue denim over hussein wielding a huge kitchen knife and included an image of chucky. The killer doll introduced one thousand nine hundred eighty s slasher film child's play. But maybe man some gotta be going on. It'd been making news lately because there was just we monday. We did a story about chucky. Really yeah chucky. He's been around the circuit from new york came down to texas and got an ambulance driver. Because what did he kidnapped. Child was easily see. That's what i thought. I thought somebody saw chuck in the backseat. Thought he was the kid. I thought to but look at it that it looks like they listed him as the suspect. Yeah thought so. who was. It was the chucky kidnap all personal kidnap. Another child kidnapping child childlike. He wants us to amber alert because he did he. Since gazelles this'll be a great story of another chucky movie. Like he kidnaps the child that he wants to put his soul into. Oh yeah road trip. He tried to cross cadillac like the hero. The movies amber yellow find his ear. It's funny how lately chuck is looking more and more like nicholas cage. Yeah man but the memes. I'll put but ryan while doesn't put up their house. Place it was about to kill chucky about killed sookie but let me show you what happened on monday. Man so we just got through talking about chucky man. As you say chucky meghan rounds did i hear it is there. It is right here man. Yeah chucky chuck. Chuck is back jokes. The muck let's get some passengers on a new york. Subway got a scare from chucky. You know look the way. She likes from from chucky. Can you believe this chucky to you sometimes reported. They just are stupid the city. Why you the desmond. I'm not gonna read this straight. Recognize the new york. Subway got a scare from chucky doll from the horror. Movie child's play so for some reason. Our lawyers asked that we put up this graphic warning. Yeah for some reason a dumb ass lawyers who don't get the joke. Understand that chuck. He's not real still better. Be safe than sorry right. Warning weather content fucking do dressed up like a in possessed doll attacks. People of a subway train disturbing. Okay so the video rest is chucky harassing passenger room of women. Her is her yelling at the person to get off a chair as chuckie grabs her leg even took her purse at one. Well nobody that fucking nobody. I'm surprised they don't have is on there. Just looking straight ahead. That's new york dumont. Do you sit hat. Happy's negro saying shit ain't doing nothing. I gotta get home and other habits food is going to be good for the this ticket. Talkradio and other. And then there's another group of life upscaling mama so you never know man took it might be real. I guess we all found out later that it was a prank. A newark filmmaker staged the scene. Even the woman who appear to be attacked was in the of course she was on could but the sad thing is she was in on it but the other people were did absolutely. Nothing they ain't fucking with chucky. Yeah he might kill me. You might find out. Why messing with chugging all this stuff has to be leading up to something man. I sound like a conspiracy theory. But there's a chucky show on the way so the whole thing with the amber alert. I was like all right. I've seen people make those kinds of mistakes but this here doing this also that does make me think something's coming. Yeah it's putting chuckling back in the consciousness just like when clown start appearing right before it right before it got released. Come on just mysteriously thirds. Yeah yeah people. it's like. Yeah we know. People used to be scattered clouds but then been around for a while. Let's get back out there. Should we haven't made any money yet. People there is a chucky. Show coming up this has to be. This has to be part of the plan right here. Let me see yeah here. It is let me see hold on. Don't look people. I'm not a conspiracy theories but just it's too much of a coincidence. Sound like more. Like a penny wash it. Does chucky never handled circus music. A new original series. Okay no new fine original stem stadiums. Legs shit laugh. You're next so why. I'm thinking you know twenty twenty one. We're here now so fucking chucky sightings coming up hard to believe at twenty twenty one. Yeah yeah you feel better. I mean some way. Someone i do i feel somewhat oh martin before the show i said hey mark i'm gonna get up and get a little something. Do you wanna thank you. Give me what you did. And i went by. Thank him when i got monitoring the a little something i was like pre mixed the wadden cool. No i wouldn't say yourself that decision. What you like. I want to tell you what to drink cheers. Yeah the people this is a. I just put a splash of water in. It is mainly tequila. You can pour some if you don i got you. I'm here for manno okay. Don't do this shit. You figure out how to keep it from updating. I did not damn. I mean it's just happened last night. Somebody sent me an email telling me how to cut this computer off from updating. I believe me i stupid. I've done everything i even done. Some deep dives. I'd like i'd to go in and put in code and stuff and it's still not doing anybody out there knows no you gotta do is just by amac instead. This has been so nice magazine so cool thing is probably would be cool but a you can't game on a mac. Yeah no i. I work on both and for certain things. I prefer the mac and more things prefer the. Pc yeah i i love them both man. I gained so much now on my pc gaming laptops and game on them all the time. And i do certain things like streaming and stumbling that i would not get a mac for streaming at this moment i would. I will always get a pc for any kind of thing but all my other work endeavors. The mac is the thing that really does okay. Like working working with aftereffects in premier machias. Better yeah yeah like. I say i just got another gaming laptop man. I'm loving it. I'm playing please some big games in in the bed and night so it's fine wife must she's she's she told me she's like she said what you cuss me. Out mandela junior nego. Get your shit together. I'll try in london one day. I'm gonna find your. Is that where he is taught to. My cousin to the other day did you. Yeah yeah you still crazy after. All these years is is. His irish wife was there. She's a she's so sweet to modern together. I did have a great christmas with them. man. I had a wonderful christmas with them one year. I mean with because really it was just a night where everything was just right. He wasn't acting a fool that's good hit the his his wife was there. She's so nice. And we log in drunk. It was christmas time. We talking crazy in yes. She remembered that in the and she even told me i was drunk that night. I must have been. I must have been just saying it was on my mind. Cause she she she told me like. Oh corey you. You told me not to wear the the the the black nickel is like what like what what i say she. You told me that. I i did need to where all the black makeup around my eyes that night. You said my eyes were gorgeous as they are and if it since that day i didn't wear them anymore. 'cause like i ain't even send us it's like oh great. Okay look like no. She's not she's actually She's actually very nice woman. I can't do an irish accent. But she does always say my name like an irish person corey. You told me about my office. She's nice a love. That woman man. So i'm thinking about going back. 'cause they will they were both like yeah. 'cause he's like you you don't know you always makes it seem like a pain when they're like. I love you minimum but it come see me like you wonder why because man which do know they've already had their. They had a big blow out in africa. Oh my god. That's a movie. i'm not even going to the store. But they had a huge fight in africa. That's all i'll say. I see them fighting. Machetes and spears to challenge. Kill hard to tell all on those. I've heard from both on a huge argument in africa. And all i'll say ma'am it's a nod. They don't need to be keen to stop it. I'd be both off the waterfall. Yeah yeah my brother rolled. My cousin was already dead. My my brother rolled in. I think my cousin was out. 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Let's start show punk s around this time. He's good now we've got to. He's we're about to sir we're about to you're you're exactly right. That's exactly what we're going to do. So go ahead and get into it. He says oh want you get some sleep crazy. Well that explains it. That explains he's very cranky. So let's go ahead and get this show on. I completely understand where you're coming from sir. So studio ghibli you know the name. Especially if he love a mason specially. We love anime out there. But the names ghibli that holds wholesome importance on his own studio. They say does not fail. They do even their most mediocre thing is much better than the rest of the stuff out there. Is that what they say. That's what they say. Oh that's what they said. Okay okay studio ghibli but the thing is they the i would say that one of the reasons for this success they they do great with a combination of two things at their little girls and crazy shit now anywhere else that combination. That'd be a bad thing or that'd be something you cancel megajoule put in jail anywhere else but studio ghibli. No they have what they acute creature in there. Yes sometimes a weird creature. Yeah but no reason why. I'll works because you know they. It's a form that really does work for them. Man telling fantastical stories from from a child's perspective but also a child's perspective with this fantastic. That's still appeals to adults. Very much so. Can you tell you how many adults would cut on studio ghibli movie where i can't tell me. I know we have my wife. She loves these core discovering them right now and it's almost like looking at child. Yeah discover these. He's like how come i ever heard these before. I know you're always putting down cartoon. No no no. I was thinking. Is that nerd stuff out there but so many people discovering right now with studio ghibli in heaven there. I don't know if it's all of it but the majority of the library on. Hbo mex is it. I was trying to figure out was an hbo. Max disney plus. Oh wait a minute. Because i thought disney had it but then this is max. Hbo mex- okay. Well it's out there. It's out there and a lot of people. These these movies had been out for a while. That's the classics but some people are discovering them for the first time right now. That is why we're gonna be talking about the latest one which is history in the making at least with the studio right here. Ear wig and the witch now a lot of people don't look at this and they're gonna know is something different about this and we'll talk about that in a little bit. Let's talk about the story. They'll real quick. It's a form of does work this whole thing with little girls and the magic in the fantastic and the magistrate creatures and stuff like that. You know it's something that's worked for them for longtime so why would it stop working now especially when you have a story with a little girl who literally wants to do magic. She wants to be. She wants to be a witch orphan. Girl flu orphan girl. You know. she's learning match. at least that's what she wants to do. That's what she's hoping for when she's adopted by a couple That no responsible adoption agency giving the kid at all. Talk when you got that one kid. Who's just never getting adopted. You get desperate you like. You looked over at her. She's yours now. Sorry no backs no. There's a yeah. This is the one time that one. Hope i get adopted. I'll fuck out crazy. No man this is the one where couple comes and they look crazy was one. Looks like a sex dominatrix. Another dude comes in looking like a tall a combination of a tall elf in bill nye. Yeah yeah bill nighy walk in there and even say something that you should never give a cup. What a couple who looks as weird as they do. Look at a child. Say she'll do she'll do what i'm just going to be. Some slavery spoiled something. Yeah they're gonna make a dig for diamonds and africa's. You should never do this. But i don't know budget cuts on. They just give it away. Oh she's been around too long. She's she's about to age out so yeah yeah she is. Where often take a man you know we will give you receive taken aback. They didn't want this girl man to her. We ain't got no money to another mound. Fuck out of here but you know. She's taken in by this couple. That is obviously going to do something with her. Because there are themselves little ear weeks asian. Don't worry about me. don't worry about me you know. I'm such a lovable and tenacious. Little kid that everywhere i go. Everybody falls in precocious precocious. As you know everywhere. I go everybody love me. Gimme forty eight hours with these weirdoes over here and they will be my bitches to. Don't worry about a thing. Will that truly be the case for little a. We have to worry about her with these crazy people. Let's go ahead and take a look at the trailer for ear week in the witch and we'll be back with our review. Erica wished funding up to you. Have anybody who changed me. Would be not will take this best time in my life today or something. I don't like the way nobody said anything about them. Ears bear came in. they take it. Yes yes we've been trying to get rid of this one taking the middle earth where the fuck you get out of here. No questions now. Then let's you and i get a few things straight. My name is bella. Yoga is great. You agree that you'll teach meet magic. And i agree to help you out. If you work really hard. I shot to anything to hurt you. Love potion for the boy. Next door look are pretty useless to me spell. Believe you're looking for somewhere towards the back on. You actually talk coosa just not very often in this household one rule. That's crucial must tell big as dressed like prints of the joke joke joke drills like the joke wearing a bolo tie it. Just hit me the the when they sent me with subtitled. Yeah there's this should be to among their. i only saw the one. I saw the i watched the dublin. Yeah that's the one that gonna put putting on a no. I would have as well. But i'm like oh that's right. I saw something today about the voice actors. I was like oh remember that. Yeah richie grant. Does the voice of mandrake and dan stevens is hat. Yeah for any reason. Ever dare stump the mandrake who left by a week. I'll be lending magic so told how wait to start now. I'm not sure a little girl. Her name erica's year week. She's airway she's that's what i thought you know you so when i look at this if you are person who has followed studio ghibli your do studio ghibli for years now even a new fan. You've probably done your research. you probably looked at. What are the movies kind of watch and notice that they're all the great thing about is All classically to the animated films. You wash this when some lost here and that is because it's why we say this is historic for them because this is the first three d. Cg fully animated film right here And as we said you know this is from studio last known for beautiful to deanna mation. So you wouldn't blame for expecting the same level of quality in a a a a cg three cg animated feature and i'll i'll i'll tell you at least from my perspective. I'm curious what you think about this because from my perspective. I don't think that the i don't think the quality fully translates to cg from two d to cg the color spill just a little bit muted just a little bit and in trying to keep up with the to d- designs. There's a you know. There's there's with. Because they have a lack of texture because trying to keep up with two d. The tudor style as a lack of texture. That stylistically choice it they consciously made like if you look at the hair like the closed some clothes have texture on the hair does not so often So sometimes it's fine sometimes it has It can feel a little bit like plastic. The plastic at moments the same goes with animation animation. You know what they're trying to. They're trying to translate the same. Two d animation style To read. And what i mean by. That is that i'm not talking about the trying to make you know a color shaded anything like that like this like the animation style where they have you have things like unique designs. You have great expressive characters in animation. You've got strong gestures you got you got strong compositions. You know. that's what made that's what made studio ghibli works in a style animation. It's not fully animated like to like a like a to d Disney animated feature are some other studio out there. What they get by on really broad gestures great characters that fit those gestures those backgrounds mazing ending. Make all the time. And like i said it's just some stylistic things happen because it tells stories with other worldly creatures a of times not all the time. Though they bought the they also had a drama that took place. Oh yeah couple of drama. They've had plenty. That would just about just people. Yeah yeah but a stolid always worked for two d and it doesn't it doesn't always translate will to me to to cg not that they don't try they definitely put a lot of effort in the it because they even the studio the they wanna make sure they get three d so good at they they they made puppets they'd be puppet shows the characters and everything. Oh wow yeah you know they put. They put a lot of work to that so that they can see even with the acting they can kind of see what it would look like in a three d. realm so look at it. It's not like this slack. Like they didn't put any thought into this. They put a lot of work in a day. It's just something that i think you know. It's just either might something i might need to get. Used to. Our is something that they might need to work with a little bit. You know this is the first foray into an waiting This is most most of the classic studio ghibli movies directed by high. Oh miyazaki and legendary director for that now. He's he passed on and this is his son. Goro gore by the way he just passed on it did. Is he dan. So this is son taken over the family business and it has that feel of the sun going like okay. I can never get my old man to get with the new technology. Not he's out of the way we can start doing it and we're going to do it. We can make it faster. We can make it cheaper and it's gonna be better and you guys will see and faster and cheaper is not at all becky. He's not dead is not dead out the show. He passed away. You're trying to kill this man. I didn't think he was dead so he just he just retired kind of retired. Okay martorana bear is so i. I thought like. I didn't think he was dead. But but but yeah no doing it in the style like this it it takes away so much of the life that the to the movies had a they. The thing is studio ghibli. Not only could they be fantastic like some anime can be but it could also be very quiet but it was quiet in a way. That was appreciating. Just quiet moments of life and you could really sit and watch you like it. It wouldn't be boring. You could just kind of meditate on it and think about how this is this. This this reminds at times in life that it's not always bombastic but here it just comes out. Everything is just despite being three d. It's really kinda flat. The ballots are so much the same all through. It does look plastic. it doesn't the textures aren't really the expressions aren't there. It's it feels almost like it. Needs another rendering pass like as they they got it to this point and either said like well. This is good enough or we don't have time to go over it one more time. I'm not saying at least saying it's terrible. It's terrible it's just less lively yes. It was really something about those characters. In to see where like i said they. The those two characters worked because they were so expressive They in is just said. Some of that. Less city gave the because listen. They're not squashing stretching and like you know like funny characters but there was a lot of to those characters when they did their gestures abroad gestures when he did something crazy. Funny it just gave them a lot more life and that's kind of lacking right here And like i say it might just be. I'm not trying to beat some purists to animation periods. It just seemed like it's just. I'm just telling you just. It just didn't seem like this. Have the same kind of own. I don't think it it's because you're a purist anybody could recognize that if you've watched any of the other movies or even if you compare this to some of the stuff we used to get from pixar and dreamworks and yeah who was a student who did the crew that are remember but But with those like they've been they've been the game for a while and this is to give these first foray into it and unfortunately it feels like that it it. Has it feel of something that you would watch. That goes directly to video and it doesn't help that. The story is not strong either. Yeah people not veggietales details. But i'll tell you this. So that's what. I meant by the animation style. Enemy has his own style and then they don't get me wrong. They've done a lot of cg adaptations of stuff that was traditionally a to d saw. I'm not again not trying to come in whole cg against this but disney in pixar and all these other you know Do you dreamworks studios that. They were trained in the classical animation to classical animation style. That you know that we have that historically have we have been used to that. We have done that. We pioneered here. Dad really translate well to cede to cg yes it did. Their tutti animation style has yet to really feel like it. Really adapts. Well to cg yeah because with with anime even studio ghibli. There's sort of a not so much doing it on the cheap but just not not as much drawing just a few of frames. So you're already starting with that kind of deficit going into this three d. with the idea that this will make it easier and maybe it made it easier but it also lost something and and listen. I'll i'll tell you man. I'm i'm not hung up on the animation. I'm really not that worried about it because it's not so much how the characters look 'cause they don't look terrible enough while repulsed on turnout way. It's what you do with the characters story wise and that is where things start to kind of fall apart for me. You know with this because the character that matters. And i do think that they have cared deserve. That could potentially be something that we would. You know that that that can make for really great film. I love ear week. I like that character. I i'm not saying completely. Because i don't think they use a well in the movie i don't they use anything well in the movie as far as it goes but i liked the character because i didn't even set up because i would listen. I didn't look at the animation until after the setup was done. Because i thought the set up was pretty cool. This is one of those setups where they have a little bit of mystery. Where's this girl from. She's an orphan. Why woman dropping her off. They promised that years later. We're going to get the story on this. The opening is actually pretty cool. I did not have a problem with animation at all. I noticed it was different. This is not as cool as i'm i'm with you. I was like all right. This is this going to see. Gee i is. It's not the best. But hey i'm just here for the story and at the at the beginning i was like i'm running to put all the information that i'm not gonna be nitpicking on this because i'm really into what's going on right now like when i saw worms for got gummy worms. What's going on here. did you enjoy a fun outing. Good because we. You know you like it here. Every room is spic and span with tons of sunshine. From all the huge windows and their shepherd's pie is really good. Listen you have to stay here for now. You mustn't go anywhere else. And the rest is up to you. Fuck you talking about cassette tape by the way. This takes place in the nineties. Even though as a lot of studio ghibli louise. This always european setting sherline on They would ear wig. Man is that she's she's always positive like no matter. What's going on. She always keeps a stiff almost to a disturbance as it's a little annoying look. This couple is an abusive couple mentally and physically like this chick. Right here Bell belly yoga. The moment that they brought in she tells we didn't even leave the origin. Orphanage don't expect a good life hard you to be a slave to be a servant. I need. I need a pair extra little hands. And that's exactly what you not even full human being. You are hands as far as our concern and her. Her relationship with air wig is almost like The wicked stepmother was cinderella minus. The shitty sisters la- almost is because i thought okay. That's how this is going to be. But it's like but i'm a witch so you gotta clean up my my my my laboratory but you can learn some shit so it exists. Okay cool. I was like okay well so it could be a win win. That's what but that's a problem with with. The like i said is this is abusive. And i'm not look. I'm not saying this movie can be in because it's abusive in his dangerous for kids to watch him. When i'm not saying that all is just that you know when she tells us that air. We is like cool. I just want to learn magic and as a pulpit thing is air wig. She so headstrong strong. She's like there's some points what she's like. I'm look i'm tired of shit. Nago put up with this today. She was awesome time. You know you got these two strongest personalities in there and of course belly i was like i'm bigger airtime and gets us. Smack him on the head you pretty much slap says like at least in your we like you know what cool will work through this. I just want to learn magic. Scott child abuse. I learned magic. Might fuck with the later unite. Both forget this. We'll work on this another time as she goes off. Line line allowing her and everything is never. I'll tell you what ma'am. It's almost a point where i actually appreciate. How how Non serious movies. Yeah the do mandrake even. He's awesome mandrake don. I'm sorry the mandrake. He's actually kind of cool. He gives a cookies. He'll give you a book every now and then he's kind of just leave me alone but you always turns a blind eye to the abuses happened. And so it's it's a weird situation going on plus. His name is mandrake so from the very beginning. You know they're gonna do something weird with this. You'll be cutting on half some you know it's a it's a weird relationship and i like how not serious that taken it. I'm not looking at any kind of melodrama but it gets to a point where every character the move what she wants. What's your week is adopted. The story comes to a halt. It kinda duh. It felt like it was on a treadmill. It just like just kept repeating the same beats over and over it comes to a halt. Because you don't get any more development from them all of them from that moment naked the house they are who they are and that is it. They never change. And you know i. I don't mind what they do here. Because i mean well i don't mind big the weirdness that they do because the only thing that breaks up the monotony of being the same character they never grow the all. The same is that they just do. Little bits of weirdness here net sure. No and that's what studio ghibli does they. You have a normal life disrupted by some odd fairy creatures something as coming from you know another realm or another dimension out of the woods or something in what i like about what like about with studio. Ghibli does with that and other movies. Is that when they bring you when when they introduced that. Weirdness that fantastical they really explain it. They just you get dropped in in is just. It just is was already there before you got here. And you're living in his world and so a lot of times you don't need any explanation anything you don't need you don't need to have told you was happening. The reason why this comes to a halt is because even when he put it in the weirdness we can be put in a fantastical world but in all those other movies. What happens is your characters are allowed to grow. You know when you see my neighbor. Totoro never really explained torture tortuguero but those girls man those little girls in that movie you see them what. They have a backstory with their family. There's something you know. And it's not even that deep. It's just a slight movie really but it's really cool the way they treat everything as it is but yet there's some character development that's going on. You always learn something new about them the day a little tomba. Hey mom mom. We may framework a monster talk Should these kids. On sunday weasley. Daddy gave him cracking. But you know if the problem here is that you put into a world and you don't need to know what's happening but there's no is so weird that you're not giving any any any further details on witness happening in most the flaw here is that you care. Just don't they don't have arctic development and they don't grow in the movie stops. Yeah i thought that was one of the problems. I just found. This movie really lacked a lot of imagination. Orphan girl stand with supernatural people who also plan a rock band. I mean it's on the cover because you see your wig singing rock and roll but it borrows from so many different little things that kind of takes away from its originality like the whole even the title earwigging the witch sounds too much like hedwig and the angry inch the even the set up is very harry potter ish There's a a witch's cat named thomas like from the tom and jerry cartoons and yes the mandrake looking so much like bill nye. You can't escape it but an all throughout this movie. A lot of the same things just seem to happen over and over. It's it's like a a steady tone doesn't get that interesting except like at times from the very beginning it sets up questions because there's like all this is going on but seven regaining though puts the answer that and all these people how do they connect with that and then right as something does happen and you like right now. We're gonna get to all that credits roll. Yeah it was like man. Y'all y'all really just didn't drop set up all these different little plotlines and just drop them all well as it was like there was supposed to be more. They went like well. That's the thing i said you know. It's like they get the beauty and the magic of studio ghibli is to be to just exist in a place that you don't see before and then having you live with these characters but the characters seemed like they're doing something here they drop in the middle of something the characters don't and it's weird because they introduce a big story that they introduce. It's one thing to introduce an environment where magical creatures live in the woods because from that you can walk away and say okay. these are just. That's just the environment. These animals living in their own environment. And we just have to kinda just live like they live. is not too specific is is easily understandable Even with their crazy magic here. They introduced some very very very specific plot points. The introduced these people plan a ban. They wants together where they broke up. And we don't we don't know and by the end of the movie if those very specific details on told you what they are. They don't lead up to something since its last. Says his films like is. Is there going to be a sequel. Because because the way this just left off you only told two thirds of the story. Your story doesn't advanced the details and plotlines left dangling. You don't know what the fuck is going on. And most of all those characters don't change shit throughout the film. Yeah this is. This man is a for me. it's really is. I'm amazed that they weren't able to do better with the story. It makes me curious. Actually what the story is in book form. There's a book diana wynne jones wrote. This is the same person that wrote house. Moving castle right. I'll tell ya house moving castles not one of my favorite ones the shore. So maybe just take takes. Yes i mean i. It's not. But i still felt when i got to the end of howls. I was like okay. Yeah there was. There was some resolution. It wasn't just all set up as opposed to this one whereas like even like yeah. I'm not digging this all that much. But i'm curious aware it is going to go and it just said like well. Don't worry about it. yeah you figured out. Whatever you want to know is what would happen. What you think should fucking tell me what's going on because it'd be different because really i don't give a fuck was happening right. That's the thing it's not like. I need to be spoon-fed what's going to happen. I suppose i could imagine something but you haven't really given me that much to even want to work my imagination. It's easier for me to walk away and just forget about it. They still have cooled things that go on man with their characters in. I'm not. I'm not even asking for explanation for explanations for those like the care of the mandrake something that he does with his eyes when he gets mad is turned on snow. Globes would like firecrackers item or something in his actually. It's really a cool effect. You know this whole thing. I love the somebody environments that will tell you this much. I thought the environment's was still cool. the backgrounds was still cool the aesthetic and of of the of the small. You know the small european village steady a steady at that they have going on. I really think that works for them. And it still works here but as far as characters going story now man. I and who knows if this would in studying the cg because this wouldn't have been that strong in tutti four. That's the thing. I kept thinking because there's a point i was seen. He's not that strong. But let me just imagine this in two d the way they usually do it and even if it had been in their usual animated to the animated style is still would have been one of their movies where i was like It's not one i would recommend. Yeah this man. i'd i mean i didn't hate it sound like i'm talking bad about like a whole lot against it. No it's not. It's not that it's you come in with a studio the has such a great track record even enjoy so much of the movies then when you see this is our something like this is just a huge disappointment is not to say that this is terrible. That'd be the big word. I would use that. This is an disappointment there. They go on his rock banish in. I don't know what the hell on. i have. No idea what's going on with this. They just follow through with some please. And i really like to know that book is like but yes a huge disappointment so with that said watchable imparts some very appealing moments in the studio ghibli. Jubilee style they they know they still have small notes of magic here and there but overall it's a disappointing rentals. Just a rental yeah. That's what i thought too. It's an unenthusiastic rental it. It felt like another company. Who's just getting into the game trying to do a tribute to studio ghibli jubilee. Yeah yeah man. i don't know man. Maybe they need to. Maybe i need to bring a muzak lifetime. Hey we need. We need to check the news tomorrow. I could be wrong about. This passed away but well. He's dead sir. Oh now this man does tomorrow. That's you yeah or him. Being in his ninety six you say this you had another ten years man and you had to and curses man. Oh let's see let's go onto the next name. I was talking to. We talked about a movie. Let's move didn't work out too well tonight. That's all right. Let's talk about trailers. let's talk about what can we already saw candy. Good let's see people have asked us to dailies. I've got some messages from people. Say man that coming to america trailer in his coming to america part two to the trailer. This is this. This is a new trailer that they have out. Okay moment right here. Told people read we. We already talked about the first trailer living movies just right around and they like i don't care i want to know what you think about these new details. We've got right here okay. Part two part to come into america trailer park thirty years later. Eddie murphy and really look like those guys turn slowly. That'd be working on bobby. What they've not like some sort of time continuing the barber shop the whole time. They were immigrants. Lost everything in. Yeah that's going to take a look at this trailer and We'll give you our impressions. Are we excited. Does this make us more excited for the move. This about come out. Are we looking at more. This and being like i wish You know. I should have just left it alone with the teaser trailer that we had before. Let's take a look it. We'll be right back with our impressions. What do you do in that. I've just discovered that. I may have here in this last. How much support she confronted. King pays no child support thirty pain jumping you on the edge of the throat. He's supposed to be like the prince of conduc conduct is a fictional place. Moon to look at dead. We're going to you. You could hear that you could tell that this tyler period glued all top of wrote on top of output. This real nation. Wait a minute by midday news last time but when that sun came up i looked at that and i say good him. I'm looking at the line about africa. Africa hot to be picking up a gun last king's son from my mom's and his mom's children. This is your brother. i'm sorry i slept which. Oh man it's not like you're the first man i've ever been with. Haven't what did you just say about the mature american numbers coming. Rico was going to be queen isn't allowed to lose the law. Did it ever occur to you that make wanted to be. Your air dare banish me from my own bedroom doing getting hefty said negro day. John hayman chased no. There's do know john. John was interested in state queasy. Big as mcdonald's run brother situation they did man you lie shit at this point doing getting from everywhere it my family must be strong and general is nothing more than could take over someone that you snipes snyder. Wesley snipes is so. I'm a i'm a big fan of wisdom today. Man love wesley. Snipes afro crown. Everybody else has fucked up wig. Why not him he. He's the he's the king he's the king of fucked up hairstyle. You remember him in. Let me before we finish treatment looking for demolition man. Demolition man. The movie we saw last week. We call it a new jack city. Oh yeah let me see. Well i'll go back to it but let me see here. What's his name. Wesley snipes nicely call him. Yeah wesley snipes hair. I'm just gonna take the fucking crazy. Look at this well just between blade in the in the do from from demolition man alone looking this dude is an but man in In in a new city he had hair that was shaped like shred helmet. Something i guess he did. Look at this new jack. Dudek said look at this and we will all boil. He's in liz motherfuckers in court with one he he got he did look at this right. I shred his helmet growing mohawk. And then just let it keep going brother. He he is the king of fucked up here and now he's in here with stadium for for here. Could look at it again jimmy. I must admit stylish far into my kingdom of his impressive. Let me hear you say hey. I'll only don't say to his mother who's almost ready to become a bridge. Almost thermonuclear going shopping youtube nephew. A fucking with that boy. I know joke away. A people be out on march eighth march fifth. Right around the corner. I tell you. I cannot wait for this yeah is even has a pump for it. I'll tell you one of the things that really has me pump. This as you say is because it looks like they actually have material foresee. No i know just made for seat because that's usually the thing it's somebody going like. I bet we can still make money off of this as opposed to know. I really have some ideas for it no. It's not that hard to even get something from it. You got the key who went to queens and found his queen and then went back. It was like all right well so now. What about the kids. Yes sitting around the kids like either illegitimate kids are the kids that he actually has over his kingdom. Either i was going to be you know the woman he was with the in the first time sherry headley. Where she's still stayed in queens. He's like i go see my son but not this is whole thing like no. You had this other kid. You didn't know about who's older. Who should inherit the kingdom which more than likely to be. False people breen. Hell extra element of wesley snipes. As the general who wants to have a coup. But i love this because this is like you notice like when i when i introduced the sun. He had over in queens. That should as like black pants meet. Soul plane yes man. Low that man. When i saw that i was laughing my ass on but you know mostly about the kids here and you know they with this big jump on black pants again because we were so talking about man black parents they had this regal advanced blacks stoke country the society. We never seen anything like that. But it's out of the competition black panther. Listen did it with a bigger budget. You know and biggest special effects. They weren't the first wants to do that. And now this might be actually getting the jump on a story line and black panther mighty messed up. I know the right is on black man to to see this gupta. Shit start over. Yeah yeah people that get what they got. With the times they know they. Hey look they know what to do. This is something where you pay respect and also be do a right to get your money. Motherfucker spoke rica was going to be a woman isn't allowed to lose the lock. Did it ever occur to you that make wanted to. Your air dare banish me from my own. I'll take it out on you. You must leave leave sitting home. No you know this whole thing. With the female these females wife. She's she's running shit. His daughter is like wants to be air. When i like addressing like you know how they easy to change and have women need to come up. That's something that they were talking about. Possibly possibly with the black suri crazy. Tammy grow we about to make you the with them. Yeah she had start on crazy like so. Maybe this time black panther gain. Maybe gummy to america can pick up the mantle right there. That's a great story. Though man with like sitting on the kids in the hierarchy and questioning how strong you know the power hierarchy and everything in the family. That is something that they had generally for store for sequel. What plus normally with these comedy movies. They'll have a bunch of great setup and a whole bunch of jokes by set third equity actually get into the plot and it's like all right. Now stop being funny. His plot is kind of after thought. And it's kind of dumb but here when they show the plot points only. Oh these a good. Yeah so much you can do at this all right. i'm down. oh this is fighting man. I mean the only thing that has me concerned. Oh yeah there's something here that they showed near the end of the trailer. I didn't actually show it yet so you didn't see it but if you let the trailer plate in the end you see that it's pg thirteen. Now i'm not against something being. I'm not i don't need. I don't need something to be rated r. Because i think he's edgy. Or whatever. But i might be wrong but the last time eddie murphy took a rated r. property and change it to pg thirteen. You know what i didn't. I did not pull it up here but i got it here. Let me see there. We go so i don't remember. I don't know if you remember the last time that the eddie murphy took a rated off property and made it. pg thirteen and people's like maybe. You shouldn't have done. That man is a tremendous surprise. Me standing right next to him right now. You know right now. I can feel bad. Tangling spider hold on. Take exo this man arrested. I'm sure you can explain. Beverly hills cop three men You know what we beverly hills cop three. I remember watching it and it was on. Hbo and i was like let me sit down and watch this. And it was at seen him at the carnival when he lands on that. Whatever that ride is called and all that metal just crumpled like styrofoam. I turned on finishing this. This is what we're doing now. I miss me with that. I don't hear he worked with him on another project and he did. He worked on dolemite project him Craig grew and we might have an view him. I'll round but craig brewer. He direct to him on. My name is delayed which was also radar so going to pg thirteen. I don't care if they make a pg thirteen that they actually have a reason to do it. But there's you know if it's anything like beverly hills cop three trump. I'm not so much worried about that. I'm not worried about it because a trailer is really fun. Yeah they got. I don't think you need to be rated art. Always make a joke work anything and by the way looking at the trail. The jokes the jokes are working. And if you if you had said to me right now to like well. The original coming to america was pg thirteen. I would go. Oh was it okay yet now. They 'cause i remember being raunchy. I mean it had some jokes here and there but they weren't the pinnacle jokes mostly language. 'cause special samuel l. Course samuel verse big famous about the reason it was. Yeah he came in the world. You're going okay. Let's just do it. Man semi jackson. He agreed with you. Man that fools when it came in and made this rate at all they probably had a good night's pg rating par. Eddie murphy goes out in the way that goes on to talk to queen like. Oh yeah right. There's a lot of cursing you remember like fuck you fuck you fuck you and fuck you. Who next job was really funny. But yeah there's a lot of cursing that made that movie what it is right. Well you know they were in new york. New york was always known for people. Cussing eachother out yet. It was so you know. Maybe maybe with them were where they were they were they the monday the moon. Maybe the with them spending more time there. They don't but there was a fucking lot of cursing and effort. Yes oh yeah you know. There was some some say jokes. Six jokes that you could probably get by with but you have sex with your bathers. I do kind of jilted. He made arabia me. Because my friend kevin a steepest and he used to love that movie man he used to love it and we make that joke. You have six pay this. I know i do. Okay King they can but i'm here. Here's samuel jackson. The movie man. Then look scariest gave it a radar just because we look the money. i'll stay. Nobody precursor pulp fiction. Fact one come on. Don't see the person it really was me. He's got a curse. So there's gotta be a motherfucker here somewhere within my time. Now come on anybody move out. Blow your fucking here. What are you looking at buddy. And i said this before and when i saw this movie samuel jackson was the scariest black man ever seen fucking right they get robbed. Oh man city he. He gave it a radar just because he's scared he's fuck man. He was terrorist. I've ever seen goddamn is. Somebody described him as a gremlin. Means is really far parking. Volunteers alienist this. Fuck be man. I'm looking at what's his name Louis just like please hurry up. Because he's yeah he's ready ready killed. But yeah man i you know. I'm not saying it needs to be rated. I'm not a hope that. I hope they have a reason and it does work at a pg thirteen shore. Sometimes i'd rather have it that way so it doesn't i same here and somebody who sub alert come on you know what what will use a man. Hey amanda finally got old king the. He is not happy to see him. Yeah but you're you're right. He's he's dimas most of his life being just in his forties. He should do. I'm just now that he has some lines right here. It's john amos from good times and many other things roots. He was at a beast masterpiece. Master how how young cut. He wasn't a man. God damn look at him. Yeah that may finally caught up with a man black them practice not bad no. He's just not together. We remember. I will remember thinking this guy nick old and they haven't but that's cool ain't all that bad. No got your paisley right. I was just to say. Yeah you gotta ask them for you. Know what. I talked to create brew. I'll ask if he has found a way. Got it from naugatuck shirt Let's see here. Eighty one yeah. Let's let's go up eighty one. He'll is good way to hell. Yeah he does fifty one regular words. Well the people do know who you are but talking about. Oh man. I still laugh at those. I think that's a joke. And they're gonna say some bad at the news at the barbershop. That's gonna be a joke. While they the same day i love will do. What do you do day to say. I know you know. Be fine if we found out like actually they were young and original movie they just don't they live near a nuclear waste. Are there some sort of vortex. Don't seem to have customers like somebody ghosts. They've been dead a to back in the shop. It's just gone slots disappear condos coming soon what you said. Oh babas were autobiography. I've been closed with thirty. That burned down twenty years ago. Demo does mmg for thirty years now. You said you saw. He's still fucking from grade. I wanna see how they bring in a thankful what they do in queens. They're gonna milk that. That's the only thing. I think might be kinda weird. They're gonna milk that for what that's worth for the limited time that they are. They're sure because you're gonna have As you know it takes a while to put all makeup on. Oh yeah 'cause. I'm looking at some of the people that they got back again. Let me see. Oh because they. Where is it bringing back eric lasalle now because they got a see the preacher back ago they got sexual chocolate bringing everybody back. Look everybody wanna see himself. And that'd be like wow. You're really forcing this man. I mean it's still might feel force when we get to it but we do wanna see what you want to see them. And they didn't have you'd be like man where was where were these guys. Yeah and what they'll do is while they're in queens but what is worth going. See the whole neighborhood where nobody apparently left our diet. Yeah yeah. Jesus man is playing. Sx he is put his whole back onto. It says it as big as this is like a trombone two. Yeah man i era. I am looking forward to this though that that trailer genuinely made me i got genuine lamps out of it and i love. I love it that we enough. There's other people who making me laugh to look. I'm looking at people in here. Who you talked about should be dead. I'll tell you this much. i can believe those barbers. I can buy that a lot if we can still see that eight james earl jones is here. No razzie jerry jones. Don't look a whole lot different. Forty didn't i know i know. And he's got to be ninety nine or something. Yeah that dude. He was already up there to rid the right. Yeah man so. I can buy some of these characters coming back and ain't dead anything. If we james l jones is still alive and real life like that also let me see here and you boy. Oh my man is funny. I tell you i'm i'm just a newfound fan i he's been around for a while but i am a fan of Tracy morgan man. Go tracy morgan. Just he's he's a natural just seeing things funny you say. Hey on and that's why don't you say not to his mother. Tracy morgan is. He could just talk. He makes me laugh and of course we are retired but wesley snipes is as a warlord tried to take over the you know. You're always weird. The the link. I got today. They had the trailer on the guy he had posted on twitter. Wh- his his lineup. There was leslie. Jones is already on my nerves. And i was like. She's barely in this. What's she's brilliant. It's trailer she didn't. She didn't say anything hardly anything. You just hated her. We you know shoot this month love it. Love it man so yeah. People is come out come out We tell y'all comes out on march fifth. Almost the is this needs to blend over crossover with black panther. Just law because already mentioned kanda and how was a fictional unless they find out it was just a lie the whole kind of. Oh all right folks. I would interesting email here before we continue. Yeah see i can find it interesting email from this. You also might want to throw up the pole. Oh yeah mr yasmine. A new a new was. Mr mann says that ran. Kugler actually pitched coming to america to to eddie murphy he says. Hey eddie murphy was promoting might his my name. He was asked about how coming to america came to be. He mentioned it all began. We had a meeting with ryan kugler for the sequel. I believe it was when he was developing creed. Eddie murphy didn't like his pitch and he wasn't interested in doing at the time he later. Start to think about it and decide to move forward with sequel with my guy you mono- function but hey man you know. He did well with the domain movie. He's he he liked working with him on that. So i mean i you went with what he knows. Sure thank you. Mr yeahs man. I appreciate that Let's see we get here making good time right now in good time. Let's see how the noise. Oh let's see so martin. A lot of people don't know that you are a huge fan of little lucy. Vert vert right here. i love him. Yeah martin loves who easy. Well you know what. Maybe it's a good thing you're not a fan. You might be disappointed if you if you were a big fan. I mean maybe you'd approve. Maybe hey dan right. That's what you're supposed to do our. Maybe it'd be like you know name it. Why you know these these these these celebrities but especially rappers go out that they just get crazy with the way they want to flaunt their wealth. Yeah so let me tell you betcha man that she was such a big fan of man and you see in the video. He's even got his each flooding diamonds and everything so my man he paid twenty four million dollars million twenty four million dollars for a diamond. Now you would think in that with that diamond you put that somewhere like a. I don't know maybe a watch our negligence a safe somewhere. Put that shit. I don't know a museum. You know someplace where you have to flaunt it around too much and you'd be careful when you can only put you and if you do have to wait on watch our necklace you very Particularly very safe about the places you take it to lose a bird. Don't do the man he wanted. He wants everybody know he got money. He got wealth. So this man said. I'd like you to take this twenty four million dollar diamond and embiid that shit into my forehead like a goddamn infinity storm like he's the vision but he's the bishop and believe me. We're not the first ones to say this. I know i know because people are saying all. That's the first thing anybody thought they said. Boy you don't fuck around and where that shouldn't a raw place that you won't get you better. Hope you never get rob otherwise you'll be looking like how about like if his fingers more so big skill he's probably the best. Sorry this was supposed to go probably not want to miss his me. Sorry sorry fucking fingers. Sorry next party. You walk into looking like goddamn zombie. Jesus he was what what i just got. I just got robbed. What he like the fucking purple deebo fucking for big bankers doug so get robbed by this. Now it's been reported that the stone was not actually embedded into his head like vision. It was just. It would just pierced into for the same thing shit. Good lord dug in. This is just a piercing. But still when he did that he's talking about i look like he looks to me but he said that he made his face swell up g a foreign object skinned in the middle of us on barn. Because i just got appears to swelling down short bar so we won't move move beschloss it would have been better off embiid into the full hair because some other going to that and just like snacks screen looks wait there with all that are on the side of him. It's clown here. It makes look extra ridiculous full right here. Twenty four million somebody snatch that it even easier to snatch it skin keep on going. Somebody go like he just got scalped. Somebody snatched that shit right out. I listen i'm gonna tell you this. I don't care about what people do with the fashion statements. You express yourself like you want to. I really don't care. Have no judgments on net. There was a time that people looked at me crazy of plugging tattoos and people are just crazy oblige earrings and stuff. Things changed man. I don't care. I don't care anymore man i really don't i really do not. I'm not judgmental. I'm not people like why would you do that us. I've got the money to do it do it. You have you have enough money to buy twenty four million dollar diamond. You could give a fuck less what people have to say but you fly to sit around and you know that i'm not saying it's the hip hop community gets a bad rap for being stereotyped as violence all ends and not like that. The music industry wants to report about the violence. Because that's what they feel like sales records. They they buy to this image. They want to sell that. They want to say that narrative but we know a lot of people get shot and robbed and all What was the what was. What was your boy ex ex l. Whatever he got robbed do got rob denied his car. Oh man what was that guy the triple xs l. Or whatever his name is that dude triple exultant tasty on that guy got rob getting out of his car man and he was. He was a email rapper. Take a caught him in going to his place. These fools live in a culture not all but a lot of living in a culture where these companies want to push the edgy lifestyle. This edgy image. And these focused place they get rafa chains they get robin money and walking around with fuck in twenty four million dollar diamond on your gut their forehead looking like black man. That is crazy. Plus you might as well get like the technology with with Cubic zirconiums now the almost indistinguishable from real diamonds. There's no reason to spend that much money. It's it's not just flaunting how much wealth you have. It's it's flaunting. How much wealth. You're wasting because you think about like how much what good a quarter of that could do for. People like him if he would have come out and be pro black in any way my fuck you because everything you could have done for somebody is just adorning your head just to make people respect you people and you also say he wasn't a for those who like saying he was he wasn't an email rapper. Eople put out an album. That was like someone was acoustic and he was thinking he look at an emo album. Now is out at one time. You don't fucking know Nah that's always been of always said this especially rapids though. But you know. I've always said this with with black culture man in the we've been black. Culture has been has been trained and conditioned to flaunt wealth Kept now but now. Look what i got. Yeah we flat wealth. I didn't have got now. We've always been conditioned to flash that shit around floating around in fact. We were doing that before. We talked to make investments for we would talk to talk to open businesses. And i'm not saying that. Don't look if you got the money spent it. I'm being not judging. Man i'm i don't this is not about his style. I would wear if anybody. I'll give a fucking viewer rapid to a country singer. You walking around with a lot of ice that you can't take off too easily but then but then again i don't know man. He says appears to be put back in the my ticket out too. But if you can tell you look if you can take it out and not have to tell you my concern like i said one to where they the mentality is to to to spend so much wealth or something that you don't need to do that. You know twenty four million but hey you got the money that's yours to spin but to put it in a place where you just get in your four here so you just tell everybody. Look what i spit. I just i feel i feel this person safety sometimes sure but i also as we know a career in entertainment is not guaranteed to you no matter what you got can be gone in a day or week. You know who knows what he's going to do something gets him cancelled and then that thing has to be sold and not sell that twenty four million that he paid for it well hopefully. He'll he's got enough money to last him for the rest of his life in what you wanna do you do. I told you make a million dollars. The first thing we'll do is get a tattoo on a place that says i don't give a fuck. It's not going to say that it'll say like i'd never have to worry about going anywhere again. You know. i'm my own man now. This is a statement is this. Nobody's worry about but I'm not worried about the rest of my life but this radio. I don't know i if i have a bring a bias in this to my biases that i've just never been one to one of greenwich flop. Well not i mean. Isn't it the what little even happens. People don't do that. I don't wear name-brand should i. Don't need to flash his cars you know. I don't go around. Tell people oh look at me. Yeah you know i just. I just haven't been on this level before. I don't think i will have billions of can lasy we'll do is get a fucking infiniti stone. Yeah exactly even if you have more money than you to do with. It's still a point i. I'm not going to do something like that. yes. I'm just bored. I guess when it comes to flashing wealth. I never get impressed with somebody with. Somebody's wealth unless they buy an island that kind of frivolous spending. Yeah this island. And i can go to like. That's yours okay. I'm impressed by that everything else. I'm like all right. Well enjoy it. I guess they hit it though. Recourse showed up and glasses. Coming here. picks up hill. Yeah man i'm gonna have diamond glasses embedded into my face right. I'll be dug in those glasses. Can't take them off and again you twenty four million men. That can be also. I'm not going to judge them there. Because people said he spit on anything. That diamond can be an investment. I really am not judging the guy. I'm not i'm not. I just don't believe in miss whole personally but flying stuff around he doing he wants to do that. It's an investment. Sure he got told. This abyss diamond would be a great investment but they really aren't a great investment in the not well hopefully can at least recoup if he has to. I don't know. I don't you wanna do man i. My whole thing was like that is not the spot. I want to put something net. I why not just paint a red circle around it to you actually did and rip off your hair. Yeah you know. I i just like have you got that on and you go out. You cannot get drunk in public. So don't get into a fight ono first thing. I'm going for yup. i can just a lot of people know. Hey look. I know. I argue with people. I'm saying i'm not judge a lot of people that i'm judging. That's stupid know i. I ain't gonna argue with you. I know i'm just saying people do what they wanna do. Somebody's yes nash. May not you ever. Don't you will begin to fight with a at the look the damage. Yeah dangling feet. He took that dominant on that diamond stone other features when they hung shit that will just lynched him. Play yoink people We'll see we'll see hopeless. Hopefully it is easily removed at that is not embedded into your head. As people thought it was earlier today. Yeah or he he just shows it online and then normally put something much smaller there yet. Boy don't you. Don't you ever own your taxes talking sitting on taxes man onto tax. I don't pay taxes so there. Yeah don't you ever took four million dollars in taxes. Take this iranian. Thank you just about covered. Good we will send a letter tax neighborhood already. We moved on. But i just love her business getting choked right they shit. No i thought you know what never think about it. Maybe this fool got paid by marvel to promote one division. maybe that's made us as marketing. Maybe to be a piercing all all right. Let's see here to let me say corey. X returns is yes he has my breath all right. So let's go and talk about this last thing that we got right here talking about this fool here. Let's see we got some manja. Musical tastes just goes everywhere. Man you love. Lucy love country. I hate to disappoint you with this man. You know this is a yeah. This one hurts. Yeah morgan wallin man. You know you going to be a big fan morgan. Walling was on the come up in the country on the country. seen rate here Had a look. I don't follow the guy. It's not that unlike contrary actually do but not more contemporary country. I would say so. I hadn't really heard about this guy but had some hits. They say he was the next big big big thing in country for free couple kids. In a chevrolet catalina layer on across traced out also from the famous blog. I run the woods right now looking for all country people country musicians and now racist that. They're not like that you know. That's a really bad stigma that you actually are putting on the country scene to which i would say to me. You boil over here. He's the one that got caught and got caught by. You know who he got the cop out three people t hem in. No hey. hey y'all to talk with the hey take with the ad for people. Look whether you certain words you do certain acts these days you know go home. I lock the doors cut off the lights hottest. 'cause did you say that guy had. Tmz was not as in the bushes and the trash can and looks like security camera. Oh was it security footage. Look those like. They paid for for the security camera footage. Yeah man it's the team's not hiding and they read the pay some by just the question is how do they know how to get this unless somebody else must have got it. Somebody heard it. Somebody got paid by teams in this. The thing tim he doesn't have to work all that hard because people know that if they get something they know exactly what it take it. Yeah that's that's a scary thing. Look around one way or nothing gotta watch you sit today. Tmz is there looney. Wait just he says a mess. You know we we we we out into you go inside one of security because it followed them up there. That's what. I'm saying look z. A less cami zoo nederland security but somebody was there filming that already. They went hollywood. They got two different angles. Tmz brought crew. And then now. I don't know how much more the is to this but this is the big story. This is the big story about how this man. He was caught country singer on the rise. You caught saying the inward. And here's the and they say you know what he had just got out of trouble last year. He got out of trouble because he was at. He was at a function a gathering. Yeah he wasn't wearing masks or anything so they cancelled them on saturday night live. He's was beyond their like this. Give it some time and want their time patsy. He apologized he said. Yeah it was dumb of me to go and get it time and then came on like a champ even made it a self deprecating joke about it was that was settled until he had that drains. You you you can tell in the speech. Yeah he's some drinks and then his inward buddy cable country. Music star is facing major backlash. Today we're talking about morgan. Wallin right here. He was caught on camera using a racial slur outside. His home here in nashville and the fallout is huge news. Colleague gordon joins us live on music. Growth the reaction tonight carly yeah big. Loud records suspended his contract indefinitely cumulus iheartradio in. Cmt pulled his music and then an apple ganked his songs from the bottom line. When it comes to wallin's career this is not good woolens. Double album dangerous was number one on the billboard's for three weeks in a row but tonight his music is not what people are talking about. Neighbors captured this video on sunday of neighbors probably loud and woke people up. Yeah so that's another thing. That's that's what we'll get people out film and you shut the fuck up go inside and when somebody hears a noise most people don't wake up and go. Let me grab my phone and film. This shit has to go on for a while before they go in the me. Plus this is famous neighbor. I'm famous out in the middle of the street yelling at the inward you know what you desert ship was to pity if you out the yet. And what the real circumstances. But if it's like what i think it is like you got the yellow in the middle of the street and you loud. You'll hewlett yelling. The word neighbors out there. But me and my buddy. We talked about this because he was one who told me about it. Yeah yeah yeah. And and he didn't call me to go like man fuck this dude kizzee's because his his wife works in hr and she was just more like. Yeah well screw him but he was more like what he did was not good but the over correction the pulled him off all these services and cancelling them like this. Seems like a like a lot like there's no chance to really go into the situation have him talk about it. Have apologized or explain is just a. We caught you saying this. Not a declaration you made to the world put in a but just in your own time and now suddenly. Everything is shutdown news everywhere. It just seems wrong and opinion. I was like yeah i i agree i mean i. I am not against cancel culture. Because i see what it's for and it ultimately leads to a better society a better behave society but i do think so often the baby gets tossed out with the bathwater and it goes too far and this might be one where it's like man. We don't need to do all this. But i also at the same time almost every time i say something like this and defend a person. It turns out that this was an isolated incident. Don't let me let me play this. I got some opinions on this ship. Burning home from a night. Out in nashville. His racial slur has fallen and his music band from streaming services radio shows and everyone is talking about it thing to do you make customizable bad you make me look bad but mostly you make yourself look that. This isn't the first time mullins been in trouble. Please charged him with public intoxication. Disorderly conduct kid rock's bar and may his. Snl appearance cancelled at the wall and was seen in a busy bar without a mask tonight. Wallin is apologizing again telling tmz just getting. I'm sorry tattooed on your fucking hit at this point and sorry. He called the slur unacceptable and inappropriate and he said. I promised to do better. Meanwhile social media rooming with backlash and many of those social media posts are coming from other country. Music stars kelsey ballerini tweeting saying the news out of national tonight does not represent country music. Okay so that's a thing. Listen is due messing up. He's already been some hot water. He's not you know he's he's he's skinny thin line with the public anyway. And plus you know how this shit goes man. He was too casual the way too casual. And i'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna i'm gonna go deep addition man. It's it was too casual the way you said it. You've said this ship before. You put it out there before. But i tell you the i'm not hating on the guy. 'cause i don't even know i i don't even know if you'd like. He meant it in the most racist way. I think he just calls his friends then. Yeah you're you're walking at night. You walk into your house you loud you making all kinds of making a disruption and you. You're on the rise in us. It's a stupid thing to do. I'm not saying we all know what goes on behind closed doors with people. No one people say kind of thing kind of things that if we said that all up as we said it out loud sure we would all be judged and being trouble. Yeah so. I feel today with the being what it is. People having cameras everywhere. People have phones everywhere with cameras on them. Watch yourself you behave like hey like somebody who is becoming a celebrity. Where everybody's watching you at one time and don't go out there and make it seem like that because you know the game is played if you you see how this works out with everybody because yeah it might be a little harsh. Maybe but these companies they not gonna sit up here especially with you being new. Show you on the rise. But they're not going to sit up here and take the backlash with you. Sure your new and you had the number one album but somebody else is going to have it right after you know you could you for all everybody knows you. You're one album wonder and the business machine is constantly getting new material in there and cycling out the old but but but the big thing was like we me and my friend talked about. It hadn't seen the video he was just telling me about it and we discussed it. And that's why i was like. Yeah you know. Maybe they doing too much but when you consider like this is the third incident. He's clearly not learning. And i'm not always on people about man you gotta know you're being recorded all the time. I still think that's something that people aren't naturally used to. But he is showing a pattern of bad behavior and the main thing is it's even though you go like little country singer the inward but for the most part. I feel like country singers in. Listen we got this whole redneck thing and people storming to capital and being with trump and we are trying to not be part of india that and when you do something like that that reflects on all the rest of that that reinforces a prejudice. That people already have. And that's not good for us so they're like why would defend that. No business going to do this and by the way. Let me just say this. I don't want to judge the guy too much. But i a word that's hurtful to a certain group of people right now like i. I never go around and look at somebody and say Hey faggot hey chink. See lady marching for many screws. Webex so i don't. I don't like well you know what i can. Even excuse me for saying the word. I'll go ahead and say maybe people say that they do behind closed doors. And maybe there's some privacy at some point. They should not be crossed. No matter what but show was outside talking loud saying this shit you got and furthermore country music today is trying to fucking change the image. There are so many that they got a couple of black country stars coming in and they've already had to fight this backlash from the audience out there and they've had to open up and be like. Hey look we. We ain't with we try to change all right so this this full. Yeah you learn the hard lesson man. I don't believe in making this suffer for the rest of his life. But fuck dude. You've been fucking up so much of this. This needs to be the one right here. And don't don't go around saying that if you wanna know about somebody's gonna come up. Start pulling of walking black people saying what can you say the word all the time how white people can say it. I i told you man. I believe that one day that word. It's not gonna mean anything. But i'll tell you why it's like that today because i i've already and i've said this before but i put it in a way. That was a little more a little more succinct in probably putting a smarter way as far as the word goes the reason why it is held against white people so much is because they have weaponized the word they have a history of weaponized in that word there moments when they use it to put people down humanize them and there are so many murders this you know. There's so many there's there's a history of that word was so many murders before somebody was killed. That was the word that was used. another hand. Black people took it and traditionally not seen as it hasn't been used aggressively but they had a cast upon them so much that a certain point they just use it amongst themselves to took take the power of us. It has traditionally as a term of endearment as a greeting as something this where it was cast upon us in us. And i know you say because i saw somebody last night talking about all the self hate you fuck you. I don't hate myself at all. I defend everything on the way. It should be defended. Most confident fucking person you live meat but is not self hate all the time as people wanna say there is a history of that word being ingrained in us and we've innocent word. Hope you get it figured out one day but it's a difference between a history of us from people who have used it to really intimidate a murder with it and then people who just had to take it and be like ara. What is word is used against as a now we just gonna take it and to use it as something else. But there's also that that blurring this and that and how prominently it's used in poor neighborhoods amongst young people of all colors and in popular music so it makes it it confuses people now it confuses people does. But when it's all said and done. I have to say that it will. It will get figured out one day but this is a word that was created to actually hurt people make people take take power away from people and empower other people in threatening ways as fucking and has been laid out. The bottle is about it's by somebody else's creation and now has to be dealt with and you know just where we are right now and it's going to be an. I believe that there are certain like really confusing case like i was i was a girl who sang. The there was a lyrica. She dropped the n. Word in the middle of song is the white girl she was she was at a kindergarten. Martin using and kendrick lamar up to say to you to say the lyrics and when she said he don't stop the whole show and try to turn the audience against his girl and right there. I think that's what the wrong you know is wrong at this point. It'll get worked out one day. Maybe it'll mean nothing but at this point yossi how this should affects people man. There's a certain group of people who took it. It was thrown at them and they used it and now they use it in his their fucking word. I'm sorry to tell you like that. But as their fucking where. I hate to be like that but it is our work and then you have a group of people who just don't say it just fucking say it. That's all can get this worked out. It's a simple rule. We don't know where to go with this but we know where we'll go if you say you know what i'm saying. No i know. I know and like i said prior to cnn. Well you know people will get angry and say whatever it is. The most hurtful thing was like Drop that as he was walking away and it was casual. This is not at all. I know this is. This is part of his lexicon. This motherfucker has said it before. And and i would not be surprised and you can only and this is what you have to suffer and did you have to wonder. How did you use it in the past you could say man. I think i'll i don't know that right. You should do shit down. Said that i don't know you. Yeah man i'm telling you it's it's it's it's it's it's bag of worms that are you know a that that that nobody wants to deal with. So what do you think he does from here. Because because i'm thinking either he waits it out or more than likely. He decided to go on a kid. Rock that's not gonna help you know what i mean. But it'll give him an audience. At this point i think and even kid rock proudly say kid rock. Ain't that crazy where he's like lightning rod. I don't think i'm gonna let you own. I don't have faith brother. It's not an people clear confirmed the white person is not. This is just an average tree. It is not that hard to simply say. I don't say words all the time. Like i said i don't use the f. word even casually out even you know there's certain things i just don't want to say i just i mean there's no reason to right. Yeah i mean. I know and then people will say they will slip up and do things behind the scenes. That is why. I say man with this guy right now. If you want to know where to go from here the best thing to do at this point especially the gone kid rock. I do believe that iraq would not want him at this point. 'cause like man you just got too much heat on you right now just to what everybody else does man. I don't know why should be punished for the rest of the light. Because we're mad. Right now i do believe and somebody learning lesson. And they've proven that they can't learn that lesson then we go to the next level you. This man is truly sorry and he's. He's apologized several bucket again. If you truly sorry let us be the one man. Let's see if you get your shit together. You know and just at this moment you just have to suffer the consequences of laying low. I'm sure somebody's going to work in. These companies are saying look. We don't want to deal with him but that's going to be. Somebody says you know what it's been time it's been yet or they're working with him on the side that somebody you have a publicist. You have an agent. You have somebody from the record company saying you know what we're working with the we got you this. This is what happens so just shut the fuck up lay low. Don't get in trouble at let let us do that. Let's do what we do. Let us take care of this in when the time is right and it's not going to be when you want it and we hell you right tell you the time is right the next when you come out and i don't know maybe gotta get you to pick up trash on the road. Maybe need to get you to play. Just little little shows little honky. Tonks is bars here and maybe a mental a little black kid or something. It's too bad because this guy was on. The he was on the rise man. Don't want this shit because you don't want that rednecks shit on them. They got too many country stars. Who are of color coming in right now. Shut the fuck up as be at the end of the day. That's what it goes down to shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Stay off twitter. You'll be and i know if you want to hear me say. This guy deserves another chance. I think he does not now. Let them prove himself. We have a long that takes but right now yeah you deserve all this shit you get sorry takes no nothing else. You see how this shit works out for every by stop. God damnit. Don't do sic today when you say you're sorry you're sorry you got caught. We need to feel you. Sorry we got shit all right. I'm sorry i know it's easy if you don't like country. Music is easily like well. Fuck this guy. He deserves it all. But when somebody who's music you like or somebody you care about like well you know. Give them a chance. But i do think like i say anybody can have an off night but this doesn't sound like just enough night. He's done this before. Yeah and if you learn anything pichu as do it again. you know. we'll see man. Let's see we this people. Just let's also take a time to reflect on ourselves to. I'm not doing this shit. We're just like peace and harmony everything. Let's just not always wanted like like former mob and always want to see somebody taken taken down permanently. Man listen to have a chance to redeem themselves but we got it k. Beal near-term has to be at the right time on the right terms. That's all man but we learned today. Shut the fuck up or you know. Don't be a shitty person. Even aren't even know. He's completely shitty person upped. She's not like an evil person personnel. He brought utilize black. People is just that made out of control even drinking you. You get tons of a bad publicity and all this shit right here. I wanna make people angry missa. Stop rehab other good night and the neighbors good night. Yeah you gotta wonder like. Who was he talk into that whole story. Who's he talking to talking to this phrase that he's had a night on the town right i mean. Is this frenzies calling. Yeah i mean. I don't think it was. It was racist racist that time. But it's should have been fucking saying you know so Anyway maybe some help drinking and nachman crazy shit. Maybe need to put his ass in half a little bit. Yeah it seems like all. His troubles cinema around bars and drinking. And if that's the case perfect spin tell you how you handle this right now. Footage of him drinking. Pull him going crazy. Pull footage of him stumbling his ass up to the to the house that night right there. A what you say is that this man has been a lot of stress. What his recent success. He's he's been in demand The habits that he had before he even got famous picked up and now he's going to rehab very sorry for what he's done and when he comes out. He swears to be a better person because he will have a clear. Mind as i spend this and after plus is antibiotic for hours now. We know he's still living in the backwoods o'clock at him making kiss girling without going See some meals. It's not right. it's not right but that's the thing you neighbors when you start become famous the people watch you man you gotta watch yourself is crazy today. I don't think is right. But yeah yes. Maybe i should be like a handler man. I should be the wolf. Such sprite right. I know how to spend this shit right after. He does something like that. You go to the neighbor's house and kill them. Pay them off. Yeah bob some newer bedsheets bedroom set. You like oak. Let's see take my take. My mouth comes off. Look at this is stevenson. So i know while hype is hell for the gods delivers king kong month but being a relatively new toasty was warning. If you guys ever got around to reviewing schengen zillah aguirre thoughts on it. I've seen some of shin guards asking about half of it. Yeah love to hear your thoughts on the movie and y'all keep doing the dance thing. Stay toasty. I need to finish watching the man before i do that. S godzilla he's a villain. He don't give a shit he's it's weird because so much of it in the early part i was like so god's zillow going to show up and i was like oh beck. Creature was evolving into godzilla. This whole time. okay No i think it's very interesting just the way. It's all about the government's response Bureaucracy and ain't getting shit done window. Zoa go zero. He's coming let's see Christopher rights christopher right this is zack on talking about so a man here say say cory. I thought it was ironic. That you mentioned little uzi vert had better not get into a fight with that diamond embedded in his head because he's known for being bold and public really two years ago. He rolled up another rapper and fought them at a public starbucks. Now just bullshit you can see the news report you put it in here. Cpi zagging. i'm talking about. And then people get mad at starbucks is throw into black dudes out but excuse an epidemic should. He should've star But there's i'm talking about people say he walked up and some people starbucks like in the middle of the day started Start shit with some people in Fight broke out. Come on out. Y'all some these lasts a long time and in the case of lows enrich the kid can go on for three years it all started when slander dj dramas imprint instead of signing fridge. The kid well this weekend. The three year feud was reignited at the philadelphia for the roots picnic. We're both rappers. Proposed education started on just spread. Got a rock and into sports performed. The physical altercation started on the street and continued in starbucks. Well that's one way to get things brewing up on ridge the kid in broad daylight outside an unknown establishment now let's remember hasn't been shy about his from carson amount concerts or putting lucy cloning. The distracted friends rich seem ready for work. I love when a rap is put mock violence and videos kidnapping fake rich seem ready for war but the receipts tail. Another tale one. Onlookers video shows standing on a street corner. Talking to rich who stand behind. Barricades talk things later. Escalate to a dash down the street. The two of interest in starbucks risky can be seen escaping behind. The counter. Must've been interesting day at work for the employees. Okay pull their. She would a fucking diamond in your here. That's what i'm talking about. Like i said it'd be better embedded in there because that should dangling let one then punches hit you in the wrong that diamonds flying off. Yeah and even the person thought she was not going to be the one get. It's gonna be one of the negros on the size. You may lead to see him no more well. It could work as a good strategy because your opponent is going to be focused on the diamond. So as long as you're not going this way you know what a hit them and a dodge inning onward late late then that is going to be a couple of hits a couple of combos fucking dime get. I think it'll just go on and everything in that dumb is going to slide across the floor and somebody's gonna be like pm man. This is the kinda shit i'm talking about. You can't be doing this. And also have a fucking diamond dangling your head. Well we'll see what should be the one. Yeah that is true. She might as well just grilled glue. There should millionaire it up. It would be better at least a sturdy. Lsu fighting battles initiative. Let's see canal. Williams been given us this year for the last three days so last year there was a show called p. belly based on a play called pussy valley. I know this is the show that was Effects wasn't fx. maybe stars. You're right. I think it was seem like stars. I think you're right. I think stars explores the unseen lives of hardworking strippers and mississippi. Also celeb. that also celebrates the raw beauty of the craft without sugar coating the challenges it also. It also gives an original spin on the cliche stereotype. Black people something you've been vocally criticising as you should for a while with hollywood films slash. Tv content is in the same house hustler. Strip-tease and the players love boat way better with more originality. He actually put the dramatic pause unpredictable and well written. I know you're busy watching fish. Yeah that's right. I thought we were gonna talk about that today. Now we have so much stuff to do. You had some four episodes in. And i'll wait and our even talk to you about it. I'll wait yeah. I know you're busy watching with other films. But when you've got a chance i highly recommend hope you watch and review it. It's only eight episodes in one hour. Oh dang but it goes by fast if anybody wants to see what this is like. Yeah i just don't have stars. I usually get when american gods comes on but then after everything that's going on firing orlando jones and how they don't have the same show runners anymore and you boy. Mass is not going to be on there anymore. what's he supposed to be on their think. So american gods yeah thought it was already on you but you not only now. I mean you heard about him. Oh yeah i gave. That's look a monday night. I said i'm gonna get his man been not benefit doubt. I said i'm not gonna say anything. Because i don't wanna i don't wanna judge him by looks 'cause that's what everybody was doing and now anybody from the qatar player for biscuit to trent resident saint fuck that no man i mean. Here's a thing like this coming out now. I was like well. She always talked about how she was abused by partner and he was famous boyfriend. And why did nobody bat an eye back. When she was eighteen and he was seventeen he was thirty eight thousand nine thousand nine hundred nineteen. That's legal but i'm still like so. Yeah when she was like yeah. I was abusing all this. I was like well. Yeah honey makes you. Were crazy thinking about him. Being looking weird. I was just like this whole thing felt shady from the beginning. Yeah i i mean look people say stuff all the time and i try not to say anything but people a people are saying. Yeah he's fucked up in also the other thing that's messed up about. Some of these people. Like yeah i mean when he used abuser and people who were what did you say you know. This is a different time. People say they said stuff to each other but they were like. Who's the authority report this to. Yeah but if. I were reported. And she didn't back it up. Then where am i ain't looking good for a marilyn manson over there and he sounds like he's really is kind of a shitty person. People are coming out and saying it's bad news man. Yeah she was dropping details and then other women start coming up. It's like yeah. this is over. Yeah he's done apple done. Because i did say that. The numbers of people taking sides. And like i said i just don't know i always take that approach. Sure i don't know if you don't like that's my default going in anything. I don't know but i did say i would not be surprised because i really say that. His money said i hate the way the music industry in the movie industry. They cover that. They've been coming up for years. Yes i read a whole big thing about this famous director of photography on all these great movies who does great work and he's a registered pedophile and And he was a member of the academy of arts and sciences and it was just one of these things where nobody knew nobody nobody check and he had been convicted twice. God damn yea today but they hit their ship for longtime and some celebrities openly you know. Celebrate it these people so i. That's why i said man if it if it's true it makes even more disillusioned with the industry makes pissed off because they they know what's going on. Be back like so shocked to bill. My god this guarantee a lot of people do not even people just worked with him of people dead hired him people that enabled him. Probably look at anyway. Like that's weird that's him. This is the valley right here. Got earth thing main me. We'll show name autumn night. Got potential join ready because this up with some pop up pop up somewhere. I don't know. I don't know if it will but let me let me get taking a risk not heard about this. I heard it was kind of cool like the club. Owners like a transvestite. Owner of the club Well not but. I ain't taking chance bet this before. Oh here's the picture. I wanted to show you of clearance times amid i was saying i want to show you picture clarence thomas and we got caught up in something else but this pictured somebody. Somebody left a comment. That had me laughing about this. This is the picture they use for article about his crazy his wife and it says here this is his wife looked like she stepped up behind him and stuck a nice lewd right up his accent and a yeah. His wife is insane man. It's crazy let's see any Crusade crusader spell like a rapper k. r. s. ada crusca acorn martin as kusak ablaze. I've seen the check the chat core. I've been watching the expanse since heard on the show so the burden on the shutting to put it in here on the show a while back that you liked it. I just finished watching the season. Five finale and i find this show is brought up enough. It seems underrated. Or maybe it's just me wondering if you've been keeping up with the show and if so what are your thoughts on it now. No for two reasons one. I was watching it with my wife. And she just she was just she she she can make a mind about it. Yeah she's like. I wanna watch silva watching. I don't know if i like it or not. Unlike i'm in this. I love this show. So i don't want to leave her behind but i now want to have to but also i'm watching so much so many shown. Yeah but the the expansive. Y'all haven't seen expanse on it. Man who was on Sci fi first on amazon now on sci fi and then it went to amazon amazon. Picked it up and you can even tell where bud budget got up a little bit and everything. But it's good even without being on amazon senators links to the season do they Okay great emails links. Matter of fact. They've emailed us links to the last couple of episodes of the stan and i've been debating whether check around. Yeah i got the those links to the him and she likes to stand. Yeah even know when the last episode of a bad episode. Yeah once they got the vegas i was like. I don't know about this crazy. Shit all in mitchell's versus the machines. Been watching this. We already showed this trailer while bags from luke kidwell. We talked about this. It was called it. Was that movie the one about the machines that take over the animated movie it was called. Something else connected. It was called connected. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. And i change it to the mitchells versus the machine. Or they changed the title of it. Oh okay tourists. Sitton assis- corona cisco. Okay let me see. I read it on. Phrase says corona was praised. How great watch movies at home has been. I was against it. Especially since i had an. Amc list account record three movies and theaters a week but bucks a month. 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Nam's one nine one night in miami only getting director and supporting actor no best picture nor debt screenplay defy fob and getting s- Actor supporting actor director. My rainy only getting two nights yet trial of chicago. Seven and make are leading. The norms on are the nam's lovecraft country not get any tv nomination not like the near end of love country. I love the early episodes near the end up. I was not that crazy about it on a side. Yeah i did. I liked it all the way through. Yeah i know. I know a few people do i just by the end of it. Just like Yeah man this is why the awards shows a bullshit and is why everybody's still top them all the time. All the time award shows of all kinds that bullshits even the you know. 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'Falling for Fascism' Emergency Re-Release

American Hysteria

32:58 min | Last month

'Falling for Fascism' Emergency Re-Release

"This season will be further exploring each topic hanging out with experts and enthusiasts of all kinds for more strange stories social commentary and the myths make america ten. I'm your host chelsea leper smith. Today we're talking to jason stanley professor philosophy at yale university and the author of the new york times bestselling book how fascism works patriarchal masculinity sets up men with the expectation that society will allow them the role of soul protectors and providers of their families in times of extreme economic anxiety men already made anxious by perceived loss of status resulting from increasing gender. Equality can easily be thrust into panic by demagoguery directed against minorities fascist. Politics intentionally distorts the source of anxiety. A fascist politician has no intention of addressing the root causes of economic hardship fascist. Politics distorts male anxiety heightened by economic anxiety into fear that once family is under existential threat from those reject it structure and traditions. Thank you so much jason for coming on the show. It's it's truly an honor. Thanks so much chelsea. It's terrific program podcast. You have a vital vital task. You're doing well thank you. I feel the same way about you. So on that note i was as i was reading. How how fascism works. I was really shocked. By how much. Your content aligned with american hysteria. And how all these different themes that. We'd been tying together all these different types of panics against different types of people in different types of situations. I didn't really know that. I was kind of talking about the process of fascism keyword being process right so something that would really help me is if you explained What your definition of fascism is and how it is sort of this process not this destination because we're hearing this word a lot. We're hearing it. It's a very big buzzword right now but you as an expert i'd love to hear you just defined this crazy word. Fascism is a cult of the leader off who promises national restoration in the face of supposed humiliation by immigrants minorities and leftist radicals. The fascist leader pronounces himself as the representation of the nation. And the only solution to bring back the nation in the face of these supposed- humiliations. That's a great very succinct. And how is it so you say. Fascism is not this this destination but rather. What do you see as the process of fascism and and what is the end result so we can talk about different things being fascist and people have been minimizing the situation by just saying we don't have a fascist regime now so what's to worry about well you know Italy didn't have a fascist regime for several years under one. Mussolini was prime minister Germany didn't have a fascist regime at the beginning So so fascism reiger fascist regimes. Come about when Democratically elected leaders or leaders. Who come in through a democratic process undermine democracy from within by stacking the courts For for example by taking over various parts of the press So so So we can talk about fascism as many things. And i think that when we talk about just as a regime. Were doing ourselves a disservice. Tony morrison in nineteen ninety-five in our university. Commencement address racism and fascism says that the united states has always preferred as long preferred fascist solutions to national problems. We now live in a country with the world's highest incarceration rate when historians look back in our country and they think about its status. They'll know that it has incarceration rate that parallels that of the soviet union in the early nineteen fifties. So we have many Marks of a fascist society here even though we do not have a fascist regime We have Vilification of minorities as at the very center of our politics and both political parties And at every election in the united states seems to be about race So this is a fascist occult. We have we have deep. We have Ah kill nick nikiel pal saying an nyu. Br provide of a professor of call talks about native fascist forces and we have deep native fascist forces When i think of fascism i think of it primarily as a kind of culture a kind of political culture and that's why conspiracy theories are so central to it Perhaps it's easiest to begin with. Its opposite a democratic culture Now there are different kinds of anti-democratic cultures. Fascism is just one kind of anti-democratic culture But but it's the kind that faces us in the united states. it's the dante democratic threat that faces us in the united states. So that's why focus it focus on that A a democratic culture is a culture that respects truth Democracy centered around truth because democracy has to values freedom and equality and both freedom and equality require truth Freedom requires truth. Because if you're lied to you're not free. That's what the matrix is about. People in the matrix aren't free. That's why they wanna get out of the matrix. You need truth to be free and you need truth for equality because political equality is speaking truth to power. A democratic society democratic culture is one where a liar is punished. a democratic culture is one more one a politician lies. They lose support. If you want destroy democratic culture you attack the truth You represent your opponent as a vicious animate Not a legitimate political but as say Someone who's hiding ring And then and then and then truth doesn't matter anymore because who cares. If the person piloting a pedophile ring is telling the truth they're hiding a pedophile ring. And who cares if you're lying. You're defending a little children yet. That's a quite quite a transportation right into the present moment and something that we talked about on our fake news episode. And i mean how could we not talking about a satanic pedophile colts. Pretty much constantly since the nineteen eighty s. But on that note. I wanted to ask you how you think. Conspiracy theories and disinformation. I believe you call sort of the pillar of fascist ideology. So i was hoping you talk a little bit more about that whether these conspiracy theories be within america or kind of comparing them Because they seem these themes seemed to repeat so if you want to compare them to other fascist regimes that you've also written and read about so. The very first article. I ever wrote for a newspaper was on birtherism in the new york. Times in twenty eleven ways of silencing. It's why i quit. That's why i moved from sort of purely academic work to writing for the newspapers a decade ago because when birtherism came on the scene i basically said okay. I have to drop everything because as the child of to holocaust survivors. I'm well aware that conspiracy theories mark the beginning of an end to democracy. What conspiracy theories do or certain kinds of conspiracy theory is they they mark out your enemy as a as fundamentally satanic as fundamentally opposed take to all values all virtuous values and civilization itself And i think. I think once you start conspiracy theorizing. You can't help. But ending. Up in with anti semitic conspiracies because i think antisemitism fundamentally is an ideology that law that the jews as at the center of a conspiracy to take the world over and so ultimately so now this is not to say that jews can't jewish people themselves can't use conspiracy theories they can do There are many jewish supporters of far right nationalist movements But it's the say that the structure is an anti-semitic structure so at the very heart of national socialism was the conspiracy theory the protocols of the elders of zion forgery which is supposedly written by jewish people by the elders zion jewish people and was this incoherent thing where wealthy jews were supposedly promoting social justice movements in order to promote minorities Women and minorities to take to do a race war to take over from whites and they genocide white genocide. And then the jews could then take over and impose world communism. So that's the protocols of the zion detail why detail but it's very familiar. Henry ford gave out five hundred thousand copies of the protocols of the elders of zion in the united states. so because it's so familiar it's something that You can you know constantly Redo the ku klux klan the basis of the second klein's ideology is the protocols. They said jews are trying to bring around world communism by inciting blocks into a race war against whites and then jews will using unions will take over at impose marxism and communism. This is exactly the basis of today's trump campaign one hundred percent exactly the same. I mean it's it's we're hearing. I mean something that. I read kind of reading ridiculous like alex jones ian type sites. There was the story of. I saw the jewish ball which were then controlling black lives matter that were then controlling the mask mandate because they wanted to hide. Patriot faces from god. You know this sort of like just it. But it can all that sort of what i loved about. Your book is how fascism alters an entire reality it doesn't just It doesn't just give you random conspiracies to you know folded your worldview kind of constructs an alternative reality where you've explained that debate becomes impossible. So can you talk a little bit about this idea that because i love the way you put it because there's that argument like okay. We're on college campuses. We need this healthy debate right. You can't thrive academically or intellectually if you don't have opposing viewpoints coming in but as you point out it's not so much about opposing viewpoints. It's about kind of this. This platform being unavailable for debate. Yes once you so people say oh you've got to have every viewpoint in there but some viewpoints by their nature seal off other viewpoints from rationality. If the viewpoint is black americans are inferior or black people are inferior intellectually and barrier. Then you've represented any black person who tries to argue against that either as intellectually inferior or as self interested in trying to argue against you that that that they can't be rational You know so if you say women are inferior you know than any woman. Arguing against you automatically can't be rational because they're a woman so they have a stake in the matter. And so and and what these ideologies that represent other human beings as less rational by their nature because if they're women if they're block if they're muslim the Or having a secret agenda say and so not being reasonable. Because i have a secret agenda. What that means these very ideologies. Say that you can't have rational debate with them. If the ideology is women can't be rational then. How could you have a rational debate with the woman so and then your not being rational because the very premise of your debate is that women can't engage with you so very central to scientific racism from its various options. Something stephen jay gould brilliantly. Discuss says Is is in the mismeasure of man Scientific racists have always viewed themselves as more more objective as heroes for free speech and in all their terrible errors You know if you want a clear. Example is fredrick. Kaufman's 1896 race traits of the american negro which discussing how fascism works and he declares himself is purely objective and scientific and it's true that he has many many charts and statistics. They're arguing that black. People are physically weaker than white people. Slower than white people can lift less weight than white people. Those are things that we anyone now. They're not part of contemporary racism. That black i'm black. Americans are physically weaker but that was considered objectively established fact. Because what he did is he took a whole bunch of statistics on On black american soldiers and physical training on them and showed that they That white soldiers could lift more weights. And we're faster But what he didn't consider is that black amount of the black soldiers were malnourished He didn't consider their black soldiers got worse treatment. He erased racism from from it. So what this quote unquote objectivity does is. It makes you it masks reality from you. It's interesting that this person would have written about black folks being Weaker when they're also sort of the opposite stories right of that other of the Of the you know rural white population Racial others People who have different gender identities sexualities People who are jewish. Obviously there's this What you said like. There's the panic element especially during sort of like the long term war on drugs black-americans painted as you know monstrous impervious to police bullets. And i think all of that. You know 'cause we have this sort of scientific racism and then we have sort of the more overt racism which we still have today. I'd say But i could you kind of talk about these. These panics that are created over these villains that are often considered satanic monstrous or inhuman in some way and how those themes show up again and again like these particular panics. That we've talked about you know like the sexuality of teenagers Protecting children from you know stranger pedophile Anything from you know the of the alumina to satanic cults that we're seeing again. So can you just sort of talk about how these themes of panic and these themes of fear come back again and again in a fascist ideology so fascism really centers violence. The idea is it's a it's a war it's your leader represents the nation and there are the people who are trying to destroy the nation There there's there's various kinds of opponents and fascism there's the brilliant coup plotters of fascism the d- the element of the leftist radicals as often historically played by. Jews could be played by muslims seat. They played by muslims now in us politics. And then there's the people they're trying to incite you know Black americans in this case and then you also so since it's war you're trying to incite violence against your enemies The minorities the leftist said. Satra you need to create fear and panic. You need to justify violence against th up. You need to justify a brutality against them and so you need to. So it's no surprise that hitler borrowed tropes said argued that we that nazis should borrow tropes from the allied first world war propaganda about the germans. The allied first world war propaganda about the germans represented the germans as monstrous fruits raping non-german women And so So this patriarchal masculinity is central here. Because what you do is you represent the other as a threat to your women is older and children absolutely absolutely. It puts it all together. It's a threat to the patriarchal family structure. So and you say demand. You can't protect your women and children so two of the great theories. Last several centuries one is blood libel against jews. The idea that jews are kidnapping christian babies for their for their religious rituals. He using their blood. So you're saying to violence against the jews because you have to protect your families and then The conspiracy theory behind lynching of black americans which sad black black men were raping a white women These were threats to masculinity at rep. Told man you can't take care of your women and children with you and on the other mall together We've got the We've got the blood. Libel is is inside queuing on And all of them appeal. They raise the the fear of loss of masculinity. You can't protect your family. You need a strong leader. Who's not going to be bound by liberal things by by human rights who's going to bash the opponent and save your family either be wells long ago in southern harz identified the structure as centered around patriarchal masculinity She said she said speaking to white women said this represents you as in need of protection by white man. She's like this. This represents you as lacking in agency unable to fall in love with With a black man And you see this all over the world. You see it as i discuss in my book the hindu love jihad. The the idea that muslims in india are are targeting hindu women To marry them and bring them over to islam. So that has motivated enormous anti-muslim violence in india at its again based around patriarchal masculinity so. I think that what is also at the center of this which is a part obviously if not the heart of patriarchal masculinity is the idea of the white genocide. And i think that is like underlying. I think people don't even know they're afraid of it almost like it's this underlying anxiety that exploited. So would you mind talking a little bit about that. And maybe if it does relate to other places because it's not like witnesses the default but it's whatever right the colonizing kind of overclass brilliant absolutely. You're absolutely right you can't you can't disentangle race and gender here. Racism this kind of White supremacy its its ugliest manifestation is the the fear that That non whites will take over and take your women porco. Your women So it's no surprise that in historically at american racism the people that were considered most inferior were not blacks or whites mixed race. People and frederick hoffman. He argues he's scientifically shown mixed race. People are the weakest the most prone to disease the least intelligent the most venal the most criminal And you know so because that's supposed to be the most horrific of all So loss of cult cultural dominance This is the center of fascism center. Fascism is hierarchy the hierarchy of white over black white over non white the hierarchy of man over woman so So white replacement theory that you know it went in charlottesville. When they were chanting. Jews will not replace us. Many people misunderstood that as saying jews will not. Will you know we will not have a society. That's more jewish than non-jewish. No that's not what it was the jews what the jews were supposedly doing replacing white christians by non white christians by non whites not replacing them by jews of so the idea. Is that that white genocide. This was the this was central behind the tree of life. killings two years ago. I october twenty seventh almost exactly two years ago. From the recording of this podcast. The tree of life killer was focused on the hebrew emigrant society which which sort of his emblematic of this idea. That jews are bringing immigrants in to replace the white race This gats diskettes to how to think about this internationally with say in where. We're not talking about any whites. We're talking about a dialectic between hindus and muslims But you have the same thing. This fear that muslims were replaced hindus. I just also wanted to touch on the fact that this work is really personal for you. And you mentioned that your family had survived the holocaust. But i know there's a little bit more to that story. And i was just interested in that because it will really inform. I think why this work and kind of carry on carrying on this kind of work has been really important for you. So i think principally fear for your point that both my parents are have been the targets of of the kind of conspiracy theorizing and vilification that faces black americans for example in the united states and muslims and mexican immigrants and i was raised with these stories from my family not necessarily of the violence they encountered and both of them did experience terrible violence but of the neither were death camps but my father lived through historic knock was was beaten on the streets of berlin as a child as a five year old But both of them remembered how they were represented as monstrous says viruses as enemies of the nation. My father told me about how when he first learned to read. He realized the horrific things people were saying about about him. and my mother when she was repatriated back to poland at the age of five and she lives in poland until she was eight. There is still semitism. And the way in which people talked about jewish people as disease as dirty as as evil as threats as satanic these ways of talking about them affected their whole lives and so for me what we see when we see these discussions of sharia law for instance these conspiracy theories about muslims when we see the way that our our our president and his administration are speaking of immigrants. I know that six seven and eight year old children will be scarred by this talk. Even if we overcome this horror they will be scarred by their talk and they'll pass it on to their children and the way that my parents passed it on to me. Their their children will be able to identify things in the future. As i've been able to identify things but it also brings with it a kind of lifelong trauma that i wish. Frankly we could avoid. I think that. That's i mean it's man i don't know it's a little. I'm a little speechless. Because it's so incredible not to flatter you. But you know even able to to achieve. I think sort of in in the honor of things that have happened in the past and then also a missed what promises to possibly be at least a lot more conflict of some kind going forward As we see these themes these stories these narrative these conspiracy theories really propping up this administration. Um and i guess We'll see what that means going forward So lastly Something we like to ask our guests Is after flattering. You i will humble you Is is there a time that you believed something. That wasn't true whether that be 'cause i don't know if you've gotten to any of the episodes i talk about my past. As a conspiracy theorist in how that really in my father as proper alumina person and how that really affected me. And how i had to pull myself out of that type of thinking and what did it was going a little too deep and finding the anti semitism underneath and saying oh wait what am i doing and so i'm wondering whether there was something in your life. That that that duped ya yeah. Ironically ironically given the segway. I would say it was being misinformed of the history of israel. I thought that that israel had always been occupied by both jewish people and palestinians and palestinians hadn't been driven off their land and and in fact just were murderous towards jewish people and And unfairly wanted to claim the whole land as their own when jews had always lived there and the culture was always jewish. And why. I believe an incredible number of false things about israel and and i was extremely resistant to being told that actually jewish i mean my parents were people who fled europe but that jewish people who flat other countries removed palestinians from their land. And and this was very. I was very resistant to learning this. It seemed to me antisemitism semitism at first and then i realized that actually palestinians are just like me and they've had an experience of horror at the hands of my fellow jewish people and And my resort this resistance i had to accepting that because of course identify with jewish jewish israelis so that to me was a big moment. That happened not so long ago. Maybe twenty years ago. Fifteen years ago twenty years ago when i first realized the history of israel and had i been blanking out that history because it ran against the things that i so much wanted to believe and was raised believing. It's really hard to wrench yourself out of those things. We talk about on the episode of confirmation bias and also like this belief polarization where basically if you're presented with counter evidence. You just even want to double down harder. And so i think it's just it's like this wrenching apart because it is. It's your reality that you're wrenching apart and nuts terrifying people and that's why there is some sympathy empathy in my heart. Because you know it is. It is propaganda that is affecting people who don't otherwise sort of want to seek out nuance Like we're talking about like you want to seek out the nuance of the israeli palestinian conflict. And how complicated that is for you emotionally and it's something we all have to do constantly and it's not easy and it feels bad but if we do you rent yourself out and you look at reality. I then became terrified about the safety of the palestinian people. I'm worried about safety of everybody. In israel both sides because they both vilify each other. I know that there are so many people who are in the position that i was of believing false things of believing that no wrong was ever done to the palestinian people that their claims are entirely groundless and so i know that and that justifies tremendous violence so when we these stories these conspiracy theories. They're there to these falsehoods are there to justify tremendous violence against the others who seek to Really just have equality. Yeah absolutely yeah. That's that's I think that's a really good note for us to end on so I thank you so much. This has been such an interesting conversation. i just again it matches up so much with with the panics that we talk about here in the conspiracy theories so i think that our listeners probably getting a whole lot out of this so thank you again jason. You so much chelsea. Thanks to the work. That you and your podcasts. Do you to as of this recording. In fact as of just a few hours ago joe biden won the twenty twenty election and immediately the alarmist disinformation about voter fraud has exploded starting at the highest levels of government and trickling down. I believe jason's message resonates even more deeply now as we wait to see how this administration behaves in the months. Please go checkout how fascism works. It's vital and next time on the show. We're talking about some of the most caddy queens of fake news. That's right televangelists. This episode was produced by miranda zickler with sound by clear komo studios. Please consider becoming a patron you stray content every month and also come and check out our social media. Thanks as always listening as we move forward together into whatever the future brings ready. I hope to keep working hard. But for now i hope you let yourself have a great week.

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How a Former Model is Taking A Stand Against Bullying

OC Talk Radio

31:06 min | 1 year ago

How a Former Model is Taking A Stand Against Bullying

"Welcome to the Zandbergen report where wealth strategies and investment wisdom collide featuring your distinguished host and certified financial planner Bart zandbergen welcome to the Zandbergen report showcase for well strategies and investment wisdom. That's essential for our revolving world. I'm your host part Sambergen in studios usual. We have our engineer Paul. So what did you think that last C._B._S.. Reporter where the where they write about the side effects of re do one good thing and for more bad things come here pauline very very protein shakes day. I do have to write another thing. That's bad news or something here so I was just telling I I think I'm gonNA quit protein and start smoking. That's the only answer that said I'm so so thrilled to have my next guest in studio today Shoddy Porco chef who is the founder of Ability Awareness Project Laguna Beach nonprofit that provides provides anti-bullying educate prevention education shoddy welcome to the show. Thank you for having me of course I can't wait to get into this but what's <hes> Paul you may or may not know something we've spoken about this but what's really near and dear to my heart about this and so much so that I'm going to be working with shoddy and in September we're GONNA do <hes> kind of my first sponsor charity event around this is that bullying has become such such a big end drastic and tragic thing in our society and you know some people you would think of that may never ever have you would never think in a million years as personnel have been bullied. <hes> and I'm one and most people have a hard time understanding that are thinking that but <hes> and so I'm I'm so happy A._p.. To be part of this and building awareness and more than anything helping to build prevention we feel so lucky so happy to work with you but you have such a great <hes> Bile that I'm just actually going to read it. I don't leave anything out and so in addition to do the <hes> <hes> <hes> ability awareness project <hes> you help with kindness programs for children parents educators at schools and also for seniors at senior centers ability awareness project was the twenty eighteen recipient of the Best Education Education Center in best of Laguna Beach as well as the two thousand eighteen one O._C.. Champion of change makers and one first place at the Patriots Day parade with the song that you composed which we need to hear about a conversation between a child all being bullied and her consoling mother show. It's a beautiful song shoddy is also an official founding member of the world kindness U._S._A.. And the goodwill ambassador of world kindness for the city of Laguna Beach a partner with the charter for compassion collaborator collaborator with the kitten the kindness evolution Arr- activist. You'RE GONNA have to give us a definition that with I know where it comes from with with the random acts of kindness one of the third one of the thirty nations kindness kindness kindness leaders and voted the best activist of Laguna beach her programs focus on teaching non judgment empathy friendship compassion tolerance and inclusion through thoughts worthing and acts of kindness Toledo our generation towards greater social interconnection long humanistic path Charlie has a son who's a junior high in high school at additionally. She is a film composer or as a film composer. She has composed music for six feature films too short films five title Theme Songs and dozens of Work Works of Children's Music Meditation T._v. shows movie trailers commercials. She's currently working on a musical about King David and finally shoddy as a private piano teacher. Enjoy Yoga swimming impeach walks art walks and near to my heart July shoddy. Welcome to the show for having me thank you of course of course I think a great opening question is what inspired you too to get involved in the start this organization yes <hes> my son was diagnosed with autism at the age of four and after getting a whole bunch of help for him to overcome his challenges he did he was able to mainstream <hes> in third grade however the other kids were not as kind and they called him. You Retard you don't belong here a lot of pushing and shoving and willing was going on and I was trying to find signed away to help him and I realized this is an epidemic in our culture that I need to address <hes> I became the C._A._C.. Which is Community Advisory Committee <hes> board member of with the Capistrano I was trying to unified school district and they had these programs and we still do that? That teach tolerance and understanding compassion towards kids with special needs any hit that has maybe dyslexia autism sensory issues <hes> a._D._d.. A._D._H._D. and although these programs are wonderful they don't address bullying <hes> head on directly and we see the kids that you know they go through mazes Jesus blindfolded and they say oh it's so difficult to be blind and go throughout the day what then they see the blanket at school and they go pull his hair and run away and laugh. You know they don't put together. There are some kids that do but not general not the majority not the majority and there's so much that we need to talk about and to teach art kits tolerance and understanding and unity and friendship on fortunately these are being lost right now with the cellphones and the cell fees. It's all about me and friendship is completely being lost so that's basically what we teach. That's why we teach what we teach <hes> because I think it's an epidemic and it's getting out of control and we all I need to make sure that children understand it. Every individual has something to contribute to our collective humanity and have respect and <hes> compassion empathy kindness those are so important for sure and I'm an imagined that could you see a difference in like the age bans I mean I I mean from what I remember. Boeing starts pretty young and can go through elementary school junior high high school. I mean I think there's different degrees and maybe more harsh more sophisticated at some point especially now with with technology I think the Boeing it's it's beyond physical emotionally in intellectually blowing think about that so they're six types of bullying link and the verbal harassment willing is the general is one that happens at every age in from kindergarteners. Even you could see that happening all the way to high-school college and adulthood <hes> cyberbullying starts is in gets worse surround third grade now because the second graders are on social media. That's which is a shocker to me that last presentations that I've been around I always ask his how many of your have cell phones and social media second graders first graders. Here's eighty percents. Oh yes we have our own cell phone and so cyber bullying is happening about one out of every three children get cyberbullying <hes> verbal bullying verbal. Verbal harassment of course it's number one but physical bullying starts around fourth fifth grade it escalates in middle school and gets a little bit calmer during high school but high school something something else that happens is the social alienation kicks in and kids are basically left out of these groups in clicks in the if you are not one of them you're just left out alone and that's a form of bullying to uh-huh social isolation. It is says well. Do you want to cover the other Mizra to left. There is cyberbullying. There is a physical bullying. There's indirect bullying which is saying gossip and exaggerated stories about someone one. There is social alienation we talk about there's another one that is called intimidation bullying. You could definitely do that to score so I'm bigger than you better than you and you do as I say and a lot of kids do take advantage of their big physique or you know they just feel that they're better than other kids and put pressure on them what they want him to do. And that's probably more in the in the older classes I would think right the intimidation or is this start young starts young as well. I had a parent reach out to me. <hes> I won't say the name of the school but her kid was a third grader and he was crying every day to his mom mom that this kid comes to me and say you do what I told you to do and he doesn't remember what it is that he told them to do. He said he never told me anything. He's just everyday comes to me and says you do as I said and he's just fearful earful. This kid was just fearful to go to school. Unfortunately that was not a good situation because the principal was also a bully. He's went to talk with them and it's it's some of this. Situation is not changed at schools. I at the schools are not addressing it properly either. That's why we have presentations for educators as well because if the kid is going to an adult and the adult doesn't know what to do or doesn't do the right thing then they lose hope yeah. That's why suicide is so high yeah. I want to get back to the suicide but I also think and I just remember what my older kids when there was you know situation or two and then going to the parents and then the parents either kind. I don't want to one of three either. They okay we'll take care of. I'm so sorry to denial. There's no way my kid did that or three. Don't really care I mean do you see that it was in any of those is definitely a possibility not and <hes> but the worst thing that I see right now is that the parents are not setting good examples and children learn by example right they watch you. You can't be going off at your friend on the phone. I can't believe Sarah that a person you know he did any. She didn't even have the money and she knew I wanted that person tell you oh yeah be nice to your friends. Tiny half finite your friend's house I mean they they see what you saying and how you act and that is <music> how they learn how to behave and be around other people and if you're not <hes> careful you could teach the wrong thing. They're easily. I think that's <hes> eventually I'm going to get to what your ultimate lesson learned but if this isn't it this is a the big one it's lead by example you have to lead by example for parents and be more caring be more careful and raise the bar for your family to make sure your fam- everybody's treating one another we kindness nobody's saying any harsh words. Nobody's putting <hes> anybody down even between siblings or with your spouse however you handling situations. How are you handling conflict? Are you teaching the right way to deal with conflict or is everybody getting angry and yelling going there on ways or he's everything behind closed doors. That's not good either. 'cause you're not teaching anything. Every time you have an argument you go behind closed doors. There's a chance that you could actually teach your children. There's so many chances during the day one hundred percent yeah. What do you think the problems getting worse personally? I think that there is so much unfortunately hatred and fear going around in our culture on our everyday experiences is that <hes> the kids are tuned to what's going on and they they take that they take on that and it's it's not helping them the situation but I think a part of that is also <hes> social media and everything else. The problem is it's. It's getting out of hand. It's getting dangerous for the kids. Now <hes> social media we talked about one out of every three but even going back to the suicide suicide one out of every five kids last year between the age of tend to seventeen seriously thought about taking their own lives one of five one out of five. You shared something that was so so terminate the how you five year old five year old five year olds are doing this now. Yeah one one shot himself in one hung himself and the school yard they found him in the morning and it's it's heartbreaking to think that kits that kyung they feel so much pain that they feel taking their own life is is the only way and you know we have those vigils of children. We take our <hes> public awareness events about ninety something percent enough. Those parents knew and schools knew that this kid is being bullied and but when the kid goes to those adults and tells them if they don't do the right thing we all of those cases adults also failed the school failed the parents failed. Nobody knew what to do about it. They feel hopeless and they think nobody can help me right now. What schools are doing is what they've done for the past thirty forty fifty years which they wait until bullying happens and then they say oh that was in good dow was not good so now let's sit down together most of them bring the kids together the abuser and the abuse have to sit in front of each other apologize and as if they can work things out together and that is not the way the studies show that that makes bullying be way worst like ten times worse and from my personal experience the same thing happened with my child and I had to change districts Ricksen schools completely to save them but that's one other reason and then the school shootings last <hes> twenty seventeen we had forty three which if you think about it? There's only hundred eighty today's in school that's one every four days a school shooting but last year it raised rose up to ninety three ninety three today's it's in the yeah in the past <hes> twenty years that they have data from this has never ever happened before every every other day every other day and more plus. There's a shooting and we have to see the reality every kit right now they eh one out of six kids go to school with a weapon in a weapon could be a knife could be anything but they're using it. You know it. It's actually lowered than ten years ago. It used to be much more much higher but. Of Kids are using it now before was for self defense and was for certain races that they felt intimidated and they wanted to have something for self-defense but now now he's very general kits have that and is happening and we have to take a look at that too but yes the situation is absolutely getting worse and it's so important right now that we lead our kids towards being the more humanistic path and say this is how you heal eal from this coin so they can come become our next healers and compassionate leaders and change makers and peace makers. That's what we want them to be of course so you gave an example which is kind of traditional of how the bullied in the bully. You're you're brought together. What are you seeing the more effective way to handle that so the effective way is to separate them and you don't want them to give a just the apologies legit now going to do anything but you're just creating more chances for the one getting bully to get bullied when you bring them together and keep bringing them together and then also the kids so they find more chances will lead to kit that they always bully league and also they have a chance to brag about it in front of the kids instead of by Sander's so it makes it worse? You're supposed to separate them an offer help and solutions right now I I. I've heard budget cuts. I have a lot to do with this but kits are <hes> <hes> are being expelled if they've done any bullying very easily and fast without really the principles getting help for them. There is so much help especially in Orange County. There's west then you services services. There's living success center. If you're under medi-cal can't western new services does everything they can come to the school they can go to your home. They can evaluate the kid and offer help rather than expelling this kids that can really benefit from healthy social interaction at school and but yeah what was the question. Did I get away from the question. My question was so they'll always put them together when you're seeing the separate separate so not to to drill get to granted with that but so in the crash classroom situation are you saying our schools like taking one child and moving into another class is at that Sorta to offer help and therapy and counseling you WanNa separate them but you don't want to separate them as far as when they're sitting in the class. It's there's something I dunno some kind of yes all right so what can parents do if there if their child child is Boeing so if your child is bullied. I know he's very tough you have to first of all. Stay calm. Stay calm as much as possible because only thirty three or less than thirty three percent and of the kids go to parents and tell him that they've been bullied because you know maybe they feel like they're gonna get blamed for it. Maybe they feel not comfortable enough. Maybe they're going to get judged by parents the wrong way so when they do come to you you WANNA praise them for coming to you and make sure you provide a safe environment for them to come to you and speak to you without judging them without putting the pressure that to to give you anything or with anger or disappointment you have to always stay home and positive never blame your child never go after the parents bully and to figure out what things are what what happened and you know your kid. This a lot of the bullying is is learned behavior so some of the bullies have learned from family. Mom could be that way that could be that way and going after them if you don't know exactly what to do and what to say it can be troublesome and so basically you have to make sure your kid tells you everything. Encourage your child to just be open up and sit down and offer comfort and take notes of everything that is happening the name the place what time then you're GonNa make an appointment with school and going to school English discussing this with the school but make sure that you always tell the school that no matter what I don't want my child and this kit to being the same broom talking about this issue because it does make things source now what on the but on the other side what about a parent who has a child that bullies now that this parents going to get confronted your childhood this Yes yes. What's what would what do you say one more thing? I left out with the other one. I'm GonNa just say that. <hes> you do want to do some role playing with your child. There's four steps you on a following. Your child is bullied and you want to make sure that <hes> they find there. Were voice to say it strongly and be able to rise up to bullying themselves. One is number one. Is You have to ignore the bully and walk away and eighty percent of the time if you ignore the William walkaway booming stops. What do you think that is why why is that the boys not gaining satisfaction that works very if the bullies not getting a rise Outta you they go? You're no fun to pick on in the second thing is let's say that doesn't stop and the bully comes after you and keeps bugging you you do need to turn around looking in the face and say stop knock it off. Leave me alone but you WANNA say it. I practice with the kids with putting their hands like this and I'd say stop because you do wanna mean it. You can't say stop you WanNa really mean it practice in front of Mirror and then also we tell them to go to <hes> crowded place most kids thank. Oh you know if Vigo hiding the bathroom maybe the bully can't find me and a lot of incidents and has happened in the bathrooms so you WanNa stay where there's other people. If you don't have a friend make sure you're having lunch where there's lots of people and hopefully teachers and then the last thing we say is to talk to an adult so if your child is the bully yes that makes things a little bit more complicated and again with the same thing with the one if your child is being bullied you WanNa stay calm. You WanNa stay calm because there's so much work. Did this is a wakeup call. This is a wakeup call that your child needs help so when you usually get a call from school your child was involved in this bullying act you wanted listen to everything in don't get offensive. Don't yell and scream listen. Take notes and make sure that you reassure them that you're GonNa talk to your child. Then you are GonNa talk to your child and make sure again the same thing you listen don't judge though in judge about let's let's hear his or her side of this story and see what they explain. My let them know that bullying is not okay with you and you have to go to school and you have to you support what the school is offering and whatever the punishment would be and and you do WanNa have punishment but you don't WanNa be too harsh. I heard about this father who <hes> her his child was a bullying someone on the bus at. I don't know if you saw it on Youtube. He made her walk to school every day. Hey said okay you know find. You're not going to be on the bus you got kicked out of us. He would follow her but he would put these videos on Youtube and it's humiliating yeah. You don't want to do anything like that. I mean the way you WanNa. On a parent is fine and a lot of parents will were saying Oh yes do this but for the child I have a visual of another child who sent some semi nude pictures to her boyfriend that found out and and she had this long beautiful hair she he sat her on a chair with the camera and he started cutting off her hair saying I'm going to do this as punishment because you did this and this was wrong was at worth it was it worth it and she's crying and she's crying day. After she's on a bridge she just takes the car right off the bridge and she kills herself and it's we don't WanNa be too harsh. I'm so sorry this is why I need. <music> music saves me. I know this is so dark in so sad but you don't want to be too harsh as far as <hes> how you punish your kindle done cyberbullying. Take away the phone. That's okay for a couple of days and you know you do want to monitor how much on the phone but basically this is a wakeup call so evaluate the situation. What could be some of the reasons your child is acting out is it? Could it be because they're going through something new. Maybe they feel they have low self esteem and bullying makes them feeling important. Maybe there's some kind of a divorce or something else is happening or maybe they just haven't found a way the right healthy way to deal with anger and frustration and and this is how they're doing it either way. There's so much help get help and look at it as an opportunity to make sure you help your child become all they're supposed to be. Are there any statistics. I don't know if you would know this but that that for for the bully you're that kind of left unattended or on addressed that they ended up becoming worse worse and or in jail or something like that is their statistics on that there is I'm trying to see if I can find it here but I know that it continues on and the empathy level unfortunately as you age grows hire you have less and less empathy if the bully continues to bully search respect snowballs also walls and no more empathy and then he turns into sexual harassment domestic violence it has other names as an adult. I have another statistic which I can't find it right now but about <hes> by the age they're thirty years old <hes> about some high percentage like eighty percent of them are detained about four times were and they can't hang onto relationships and <hes> they become abusers of their family and their children's well. We're running out of time but I I will say there is and we we've talked about this before. There is the other side there is the abuser of the earlier who thing goes through a period of maybe acknowledging what they did right eight and then having to deal with that and my own personal experience and we'll certainly get to that when we do our thing and I've told you about this but I ran into one of my bully ears at data incredible retail sore and as he approached me I still had even as an adult you know thirty years later I had this this thing this terrible feeling come through and is he came up to me he just he gave me put out his hand shook my hand and gave me a big hug and just said I'm really sorry and so I don't know I didn't. I didn't really push it. I accepted it of course because that's how I am. I just wonder you know how long he's been dealing with that what he had to cope with so there's there's so many different angles to this. I think fortunately definitely there's not that many cases of what you experience so. This is a minority wonderful that you did. He came out and you know He. It's definitely it's been bothering him for so long happy to see you so he had a chance to apologize. Yeah I'm glad and appropriately the name but there is very very famous person right. I'm probably on most famous actors used to be a singer who apparently was not a very good kid in has come back and and come back to the schools and the teachers and giving money and not everyone has has accepted as apology but then he certainly seems sincere. That's wonderful wonderful. See Wish I knew or out of time so I just I want to say what a pleasure has been having a Studio Tae. We've we've had so many conversations. I can't wait to continue to work with you on this sure and I do have the honor of asking as I sit in the beginning what I call my final thought question which is what is your ultimate listen learned as your through your process of of the kindness and and <hes> bullying awareness my ultimate lesson is I know we could be better. We know about the benefits of kindness for everyone for the ones doing that kind act the ones receiving it helps the bystanders as well so there is hope and I know we can do it but we all have to take the pledge and we must rise above race in color and gender differences and political view differences his and put our focus on the goodness of humanity. There's so much more we have in common than we have in our differences and I know together we can do it. That's so true so great. How can people either reach you support? You help you. What's the best contact info but we need a lot of hell so please do reach out <hes> our website is kind and safe schools dot org <hes> the new website is under construction so if you visit after Friday would be much cleaner and and much better looking than what it is right now but you could still getting cut contact with us either <hes> <hes> you could email me at shoddy s. h.? A. D. 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Princess Mononoke - Love at forest sight

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Princess Mononoke - Love at forest sight

"Itchy knee son. Welcome back to the foyer. Reference podcast vets is Al Merce delectable reference Degussa Station then welcome welcome. Welcome If you're nasty and you come in at the third calls you are most welcome. If you've joined us in the station. We started off with a very palatable spirited away we also moved into a very juic- sumptious Porco Rosso And this third course that we delivering to you is monarchy him. Take the show away. Howdy friends and lovers? Welcome back to the four year reference. PODCAST you've got to Herr's Katie and ot and if you're well behaved the're thea will be your weight off for the third in the referenced. Gus Station Oh hold onto your bag is because your ex is going to stab you in the hot thought today today we are covering monon. Okay him a otherwise known as princess-mononoke and who who horror film water film indeed. What what? What film indeed Yes it's studio Ghibli We know it's very cute. That it's like a mispronunciation with the accident saying Jubilee But we do recognize a Ghibli in the foyer royer reference household. And you know what I'm just realizing our T.. We are consciously learned but apparently were accidentally learned because this is the third cause and Saen means three in Japanese. Aw Aw Oh oh right. The three times a SP- lose friends and lovers But yes they are. All Maze ocoee masterpieces. Obviously he wrote and also so directed this film. We have our Hisashi which has seen us through the reference? The station And you you can. We can talk more about The music but it's quite evident that it has more substantial and tangible depth as opposed was to the whimsical sort of teams. That you would hear in spirited away for example So you know it is full shift kisses or around and This is quite a big film four Miyazaki it is one of the most successful in aspirated way episode. We you talked about The Japanese Academy price and only two animated films have got it spirited away in the first one being princess-mononoke Whoa and they now have animated category but at the time it was going up against films that weren't animated should me and it also has so you know if you read fun facts about May as ocoee you would have heard about Him Sending a Samurai Sword to the Disney studios with a simple note saying undercuts no which was acute just show but it was also cute threatening sort of gesture and that was actually based off of the way they butchered Naurskaya I think it was to do with them wanting to also cut down rating down to a PG. Ah Plenty Helen and like I said. In the spirited away episode Miyazaki is known for not finishing storyboards right up until the end of production reduction and other people. I won't give grace's but having consumed and immerse myself in the world of me as ocoee this man can do whatever the fuck you wants. Who the fuck do you think you are to to Cartier's fucking fil and if you haven't watched the official first cinematic nick release of Nebraska Valley of the winds? Please do that. We have quite nicely again. Maybe it's accidental learned nece But it is. They're they're quite a lot of Very similar themes aside from the overall sort of tangible themes that may Ezaki has that you have with Princess Mononokai and also no Scar Valley of the wind. So you expect that as our full of course later on in this week in this month long celebration celebration of our one year in regards to adapting it to the English sort of language. It was made very clear that there wasn't going to be a full upheaval of English. Dubs again if you watch a lot of animals you know this controversy about you know just change you get for the sake of changing it completely loses its meaning or you know. In in order for it to relate more to American audiences it loses its distances. Essentially Neil Gaiman So sad what's happening to American gods. But that's that's a story for another day Ian McShane Daddy would the four year reference costs of the shows. You actually look forward to watching. We waited so we could cover it but it seems like it's falling apart on sorts appeases So this was released in July of Nineteen ninety-seven I don't know if you could guess. But apparently Quentin Tarantino was approached before Gaiman to adapt this into the English dub. Good no one wants to see chaos feet me ready for Zonta say the N.. Word or no no. Yeah so Neil gaiman he. Essentially he was given even official translation to English and he was only supposed to change things just so like we talked about in spirited away just explaining that like Hawkers Dragon just explaining the small sort of BITs Like Dave changed sake to wine He also there also some things that he wasn't allowed to he wasn't allowed to mention in China also Japan. I don't know why that would be more palatable but anyway that's just some context In regards to that for the budget it was two point four million Japanese yen. It's one of the most expensive animated films ever been the most expensive all. The time was well then more than killer which is wow well? That's all over the place so come and fight me in Merkin and Japanese but the worldwide gross was one hundred and sixty two point. One million dollars proof pretty penny indeed. My neighbour Totoro that we're not covering as part of Audi gas station. Maybe that's on the kitties menu. A new that catapulted studio Ghibli. Into essentially the merchandising is what you know brought a claim to Ghibli on an international sort of scale. So that's why you see Torso as the studio Ghibli lager but in regards to you know butts in cinemas and acclaim and respect and all round maze ocoee becoming a household name. It started from Prince. Okay well yeah gotTa bring the Otto's audience audience in seventy SAR. Playing San. We have issued a Yuriko playing usher Taka we have Matsuda Yuji and a good sort of crossover that we have with this. Pairing Yuji also played as bill in Oskar all the kid. so He's kind of that love stricken kid that follows the strong Coleman around and we also have some crossovers that I just want to mention as well Turkey The rambunctious wife that lives in the ironworks to Kirker. She's played by Shimomoto Sumi. Who played well when you've got the talent? The Marine agreed voice actors. You come and I also want to mention as well for an upcoming referenced station moral the Wolf that we have love played by Akihito actually plays the wish of the waste in house moving causal wow And I just want to mention this now before I forget Milwaukee hero is known and lovingly plays a female impersonator And the reason why that's relevant and whites cute and why it's a fun. Fact is because in Japanese sort of mythology Wolves a have a masculine sort of quality to them. That's why when we started watching this film in Japanese subtitles will wondering is that a man. WHO's as little contrasting to Gillian Anderson really yes moral? Yeah even brilliant. Yeah and even before recording this I said did you want to try the English dub just we could say it But you know with to learn it to have the English dub in the four thousand. Wow and Billy Bob. Fulton olden is also on the English. Dub Gillian and Billy Bob. And just just I think this is the most English dub we've ever talked about But Turkey is played by Jada Pinkett Smith or got Jada some freshly minted Pinkett Smith. Mind you. So there's the cost that we have in regards to Monaca. He may otherwise known as princess-mononoke while we're on that actually The the team. That was adopting it into English. Subs sub's really couldn't find another word for one on okay. So essentially one okay means angry. Oh vengeful spirit. And they couldn't unless they thought that like angry. Princess like these knees reprints the Japanese Disney Warrior princess or maybe they could call the red wing warrior Princess Red Ring us all about it. Email him got some budges mate. So let's get into Al themes or if your fancy and you'll have a D. gas station. We've got some tasting notes Just like a fine wine. And if you've listened to aspirated away and I'll portico Rosser episode You would have heard these themes already. This is going to be a fun. One eighty so Hi Friends and lovers if this is the first time not just in this referenced gas station just in general welcome welcome welcome. What a sumptious episode you on But if you've been joining in this referencing station you will know or if you've watched me as ocoee films you will know that there are some tangible sort of themes that he likes to introduce and again this is not an Quinton Miyazaki. So we're not talking about wanting to roll MS occupy. Yeah you definitely bring a flavor to this podcast. You're a flavor for that I don't have in my spice cabinet. Let's just put it that way. I didn't even know what to do. Now you've completely bamboozled me But let's start off with the first Sort of evident theme that Maze Ocoee has and that is planes slash flying just a quick sorta summary Miyazaki's father built pots for planes and His love for the nature of flying and the innovation of flying. It is quite evident in a lot of his films. Do you feel like that was he. No not really not not in this good because that was a trick question the movies you make from a different spicer reference. Well the interesting thing about this is Miyazaki got sick of people comparing and pointing the fact that he has lots of flying in his four he did not include any sort of flying elements in this film. Row Smoke Book Ball. It's like yeah you think I'm one pony we need to leave. Quinton Jerome Tarantino alert. Clearly yes so to three All the Dixie. The next theme that we have with maize ocoee not is anti wall as Meyer McKay would say war is bad woes rural. So what do you think about tame not in the aspect of it's covered in Poker also anything like that is definitely elements of antiwar. Aw especially when it comes to the conflicts between humans and forest and the animals inasmuch as humans destroying the forest orest. There are better ways to go about achieving sort of peace Rather than try and go full gang ho so there is some elements of that. Oh hundred percent hundred percent agree But yes it isn't a hundred percent like Polka Rossa way. It was like the most tangible. Oh sort of time and place or Wodel one There is wall between humans. Because there's the introduction of guns Right right and you know I. I guess you could say on some element. It's too simplistic to you. Know as a theme of war just just one hundred percent is being bad. I guess you could draw that comparison but that's not necessarily how I feel. I feel like it was done quite well. Well when we do our Naurskaya episode of it it was quite interesting to watch these relatively close together and see the the the the key messages and how in some cases one on okay thrived in its ability to refine it a lot Hot in the iron so I think anti wall was quite prison Not just in the fact of like war against nature or war against animals but also against people and I do WanNa talk a bit more about the leopards as well because that was quite an interesting sort of element to introduce into that as well There were questions about Whether Miyazaki introduced you know lepers into the film as a way to you know denote possibly the way that we we treat lepers in general and he did confirm that and Miyazaki doesn't confirm a lot of the messages that he chooses to portray. I think it does leave a lot to be open right then. I guess that kind of brings me to like this is America of like Donald Glover. Like sometimes it's nice for creatives just to leave it open. If you give people enough breadcrumbs Hansel and Gretel Katie. He will find their way to splash mountain. But I think as we continue to talk about the film we're going to bring up a lot about the anti war As well the next thing that sleeves in quite nicely and sometimes it's paired together is environment and how we traded or also how we mystery environment. Do you think that was tackled in this film. That was a very those very sixty minutes. The I wanted a specific soundbites. Oh yes the whole thing. The most important laying being theme of the movie is about the environment and how we treat it and Solve conflict that exists between even. Now it's such a newest movie movie where it's applicable daycare laid all so it's definitely covered in abundance in abundance in Dade and I guess just to give you you know a bit of a reference in regards to me Ezaki. He actually used to visit a blacksmith as a kid and he was so or inspired by by the craft and the autism sort of nature and the craftsmanship of being a blacksmith but then he sold the resources sources that when needed in order to create that yeah and it kind of inspired him to make this movie and I think that denotes quite a lot to this this film generally I think it's more of an even-handed sold a message in regards to how we treat the environment. It's not necessarily that. You know we. We need to live as we did in ancient times better ways of going about it. That's one hundred percent and I think it it was more clear cut when you watch no Scott as well but I think that was quite an interesting SORTA tasting to have this this film. The the foundation of this film is our environment and that fucking ticket of God. But we'll come to that very soon. The next theme that we have earthy is a female lead slash kids one the one we thought for sure we have precise went on. Okay hello She's strong even you know she. She's carrying the whole the sort of body that she has to be doubly tough living in the forest being human in our on our animals who of cost apart from the Moro tribes. He has as human. She's quite strong and the way she goes about finding on walk. She's super dedicated. She's like a single wheel sort of conviction in terms of getting any Bauchi to To Kill Ladyboy. She pretty much She's really strong on dedicated. I think she he's one of the strongest characters we've seen in amuse movie has come to the table. I right and he has come on the table. Mind you and we all most well. Can you know when you go to fancy restaurants. And they have like the little water with the lemon women to like cleanse your fingers we have fluids again You saw Princess Mononokai. It does have a higher rating in regards to maturity. But you know you probably for you a safety. You should have paid attention to the explicit tag is episode interesting thing in regards to Ceylon which is her name. She doesn't doesn't appear until like twenty minutes in the film which is quite interesting One of the producers of the film was quite worried that they wouldn't be able to keep you. You know the runtime of the film you know within a tight sort of two two hours balk when the cat about Ron Times okay right now though just before movie care in the wall you know what China's tomatoes score. Who Says He? Because we've mentioned the Irishman two of these courses so I think that's exactly what he wanted to do but one of of the working titles for this film was the legend of Avoca Because if you think about it. San Is the hero and it is called Princess Mononokai but also at the same time again. She doesn't turn up until like twenty minutes in do so. It is interesting I don't know how we would feel about. Potentially you having Ussia as our main character but it is based on or I guess you could say that part of this film was is based on a graphic novel written illustrated by our all hailed higher Mizuki code the journey of Shuna and it's also about a prince that has an elk as well just showing her to further So that also Jerusalem influences and also with Yuck as well But I really like the way that this film was structured and also talking about the structure of this film. You'll notice. There is quite a lot of doc themes with this and again. We didn't mean to do this. But since Miyazaki did PORCO he wanted to tackle something a a bit more darker and he also mentioned once he did poker officer he couldn't go back to doing Kiki's delivery service. which if you've watched it's about a cute little witch on a broomstick right so he wanted to tackle something with some more dark themes because we were talking about wall we'll tell you about inability to love and accept yourself rather being a pig than a fascist in Porco Rosso And then now you have one okay so it still has more real world shit essentially so I think that's quite interesting and it's quite a nice. I'm sort of menu can you. We've got going on I smell word is cooking and we all woke up the next theme that we have which I think was is quite interesting and I definitely want to dive into some more detail is the ambiguity that may Ezaki has the ability that he allows his cactus. Have Multiple Dimension you. Someone isn't one hundred percent bad in his films and then one hundred percent evil good rather. Oh Oh yeah I think the perfect example for this is letty. Washy On one hand. She's destroying the forest bought on the hour she's pretty much helping communities thrive she's taking in Leper. She's taking the people who are disregarded by the society in Lepres and prostitutes and helping album them and finding a community around them give them a purpose to live giving the purpose to to to to be proud of themselves so ladyboy she is quite a complex. This character and I think this is kind of the things that we started seeing in spirited away as well you know where it's not necessarily known as inherently at least bad in this it's where lady Hossam layers to and by the end she definitely had more complexity than you. Baba spirited away she. She was less Mustache Mustache twirling and I I guess. My point was more towards Baba's sister and the way they try to Depicts if the two so end this monarchy we have ladyboy. She who's fundamentally I think. A good passan abate. Doing I would say that fundamentally good who's kind of just doesn't see the bigger picture. How about this? She's a person and being a person. Means your floored. I'll agree agree with that. No because Passan. Except when they're all under the end of this we see that she accepts washes dawn and she understands runs the importance of the environment and sees. Hey Okay so I've had some sort of character development by the end of it where I can accept my faults. I'm try and change and build a community which she does. Okay I I said in L. Poker also episode I will never rank films and asked me to do that but I do feel like in particular with Lydia Bolshie that her character development was a bit to talk. Yeah it was tied into a bird although you go see Batali perils Tarintino. You've got a lot of aliases today. It Ain't easy why that's an arrested development reference between needs a fucking cover this year but we are covering today is is modern Oklahoma otherwise known as Princess Woman. Okay thank you for tuning in. Thank you for continuing to tune. In unbelievable. She definitely stirs is up a lot with humanity. It's like that mean you think you'll saw him but you really later. But that's I like the fact that we toy with are inherently good inherently bad because that just doesn't exist aside from other instances that we're not going to get into today the next thing shall we move on The next theme Ms Ocoee really has an affinity four pigs. and He's also known for illustrating himself as a pig. How was the pig fat in princess-mononoke? Oh we got awesome pegues. We've got some stupid bag. Well we do have pigs in there. See how impose those are just pretty much wild pigs and and they're quite fundamental in the story because we see the costs is pro forma ball though shot by L. A. B. Bush's guns and it's starts from there. Let's this that's pretty much. The starting point of the movie and with a Cuarto currency how pigs of displayed in this where. They're pretty much dom house because they display the peaks you wish but we'll see see how they displayed and they're pretty much dumb thing well. They're full full. Lack of reference on the pigheaded like they had a goal. And that's all they focused on and let's definitely put a bookmark in regards to you. Know the initial saying because that was quite right interesting in regards to the curse because it's essentially hatred right you've got those Wrigley Sorta worm maggots but essentially it symbolizing your your hatred trade. And you can't see Pasta. Yeah right so. Let's definitely put a bookmark on that. But in regards to you know the fact that it really is the reference circle of life. I know thorough the tomatoes at me but it really is because you see the horizon lurs and you see aside from the humans really That there are graces to be given to so all parties in this again as aside from the humans yes they they will continue to take advantage of an HR to advance right unless you're going to be more. Agricultural you know to advance into a metropolitan SORTA society. You need to take advantage of nature. But there's a way to do that and I really enjoyed the finesse in the message in the film But pigs definitely get too big tick according to his own detriment to his own people sacrifice sacrifice them all did. They drank the P. gate at the Bay of Pigs and it was a fiasco are for them all but we'll definitely talk about the interplay between the different animals because I thought that was quite interesting but pigs definitely get to be tick but you'll also notice like even spirited away and also pokharel say that we've already covet The pigs were also not of the best quality either Well apart from Corozzo now but he couldn't love himself so that's why he had that curse on you. I believe Anyway True True I. It's more of how pigs eggs maybe Displayed Kosh really in Japan. Well religiously Pigs displayed as sort of dottie creatures. And you don't WanNa really associated with them because in the Bible you have like this sort of Jesus cost demons into pigs because their daddy whatever the hell they explain it with the thing you grow up thinking and thank you for that tasty nut. y'All most local. I'm the last theme. That we have is wims ICAL slash fantasy. Yes that's quite interesting because when you know when you're spirit away for example you'll like oh whimsical fantasy. Yes music. He does that right but sometimes nor always go. Oh to see no but I kind of how was the yes Mr my ass is in the whole fact of the. Da Got. Well I guess. Do you WANNA call mythology fantasy and I guess going with it. Because I didn't know whether or not to classify see fight as thought like jed is is a religion. Does this stop being fantasy. But I get what you're saying because I was going to make a similar soto point point the their devices in a fantastic sort of nature that are used to convey key messages real twelve environmental messages. So I definitely understand what you're saying. Yeah but if go more towards the traditional sort of explanation for this is more geared towards things like the forest spirits where it's sort of a mythological thing we have in many many sort of cultures we have the stories like Africa has heaps heaps heaps of that in this we have the we have the OBAMAS which there to solve the the kind of portray the health of the forest and yeah like the tree spirit. Yes so I guess to some extent but marshes we've seen in in spirited away yeah and we we talked about Comey in the spirited away episode. So if you want to hear more about like Shinto sort of influences ince's Throughout me as ocoee works we did cover a bit of that in the spirit away episode but yeah it wasn't interesting and you can see you know the treatment of the Kodama obviously reflects how nature is being treated as well so I definitely want to do a bit more of a dive in in regards to that but those are the things. Those are the tasting notes In regards sue princess one and okay. Let's talk more generally about the film. I think we should start off with Ash Taka because he actually starts the film off and then we can work our way on Tucson. Sean I should talk. He is a player without a prayer. What the fuck man really is Sir our he no he had this gal he had the sweet hot Kaya even to the point where she gifts her most beloved drool Dagga to him. And then you later on see in the movie. He was casually gives it Tucson. He really wristed off of that lady Eh. Because he was like pasta the first thing he said was you're so beautiful and fell in love like the belly. Spoke book ten watts to each other by like like early and Juliet. Who Crazy he he saw he saw that wolf and he was not looking back on? No Man Jesus Christ men interesting and I feel like his character is quite interesting to Quite a similar to as bill in Naurskaya well L. but I should take. He really seemed to be the guy that you would want in your village. He was there to protect you. He did what needed to be done. and he could fuck you. Buy dinnertime all at the same time unless you Kara. You want to write like sitting sitting there like writing love letters to this guy. I should talk a lovey so much. I'll give you my only doug my precious possession. She was probably really praying to the God. That's why I got nowhere. Probably I have quality. Do you go to shit. We'll get back to him. Laid up but yeah he was definitely only a guy a good old guy that you wanted to have around. Yeah and he. He definitely ended up. He ended up leaving his Jennifer Ghana. A great guy clearly hitting care too much about Kaya because of the interval he doesn't even go back to the village because he says the greatest live the head come visit one Roku whatever when she's in heat a when I should tucker is feeling like a red warrior red wing if you'll pardon the wing what it was interesting and then we we meet some characters along the way GEICO Burg being one of them. He's like an old SORTA Samurai. We later find out that he's kind of like a double agent and he's Kinda working with Lady Abo- She as well yeah he's kind of just self centered and he was kind of likable. I'm not really he. He's seeing the wild around collapse but he's insisting on running with the had as fucking ridiculous why are you going to go with. It is running up a mountain. You gotta go especially in that verb that precarious the plot yellow ridiculous car. Yeah but I also feel like you could have a super evil person. But he kind of wasn't now he's lost any Bauchi Erique he. He's a man looms because his another fun fact for you. My Lover T. like he mentioned that he didn't WanNa make a ball. She liked the leader of the iron works to be a man because it was boring and eh wasn't progressive enough so he thought it would be a more interesting sort of dynamic to have a home in at the helm a woman the man I think it would have still come come up the same to me and the thing is he was all about himself. I'm lucky bossie. Who Body to uplift the community here but then she thinks she also? I used people that were discovered by society because no one would look for them. No I think she gave them poppers. But I feel like you're really seeing being it through an tinted glasses. Lose the losses a ball me but anyway see advocates and Bolshie Glasses Mitch but seriously They discarded people in society belly. Luca so when someone does house something and empowers them only to be able to cut themselves brought to you know. Give them Papas in life. That's something you can take takeaway. I'm not taking away from the fact that she helped them but I'm saying what her intentions were. I don't necessarily think it was you know are just out of the concert. Ha Well you could see the Aleppo's aw really appreciate it for Bauchi because of the laughter lead before before that careful exactly you could see the processes regardless of at least abortion. Thought in mind or she was there when she was there when no one else else was the end of the day. That's all the modest them godless over the intentions were fully pure on speaking of pure. Aw I don't know why we're not addressing the elephant in the room. Let's talk about US portrayed in a Miyazaki film for the first time as Caracazo and Turkey as the useless husband and the rambunctious wife. So how's the RHUMBA. Actions Wife yes how does he feel. Wow she she. She took the reins when Bush was not around. She is a leader. Oh Oh yes you could definitely see the effect that Bush is hard on everyone and she was there to lead the community. Anybody she was was not there she gave gave commands to men women and children alike. You know there's actually no children in this village I said you know. That's that's good because it's a fun fact. This does tackle more. You know more heavier sort of subject matter well another fun fact act for the OT. Some extra seasoning On Your Station Menu Miyazaki noted that he didn't want to have kids at least visible in the town because he didn't WanNa show as if they were in the settling phase of town. So you know you you can assume that kids with that because you and me. Ot went nothing. Boom mammals did GOLETA. But I get your point. Doing deedee. Deedee deedee eighty eighty and the Bollywood thing. Well at least we're never going to get copyrighted. Because because I I don't know what fucking kids that shit that try to pull the children you had an. You'll sack you quite open your head than I was just regretting all of the ASS. They call it long. Suffering for a reason may eight but it wasn't interesting sort of thing but this sort of love campaign you have a label she. I'm not really targeting. Getting up because we have a lot to get through but I really think it was a bit too simplistic to just say. Okay I'm a good person. Now she's a good passer now. It's it's just more so than people different layers to them. Yes you literally took all of her bad layers. She didn't understand the difference between ignorance and now even wanting to lan more. That felt very pointed to. Let's move on. I'm so we've we've talked a bit about the humans right we have we have AstraZeneca's village and we actually. This is a good point. I want to mention this. So we have the article at the start of the film in the opening sane way. She pays her specs to the ball Even though the boers pretty much threatened them and said I'm going to cause fucking Shit and you're gonNa feel all of the pain that I'm feeling. Yeah can I just say me Hashtag. Same I'm a vengeful mother. The fucker if I'm dying suffering so will you Right but we have the article and she saying. Please forgive US poss- peacefully let us be on our way right so that was quite a beautiful message that he had at the side of the film and if flows on quite well into it you know like I said we've covered covered the humans. We talked about the ironworks. We've talked a bit about the summary. It's also the only film that Miyazaki has set in feudal Japan As well which which was quite interesting He wanted to make sure that I should talk. A wasn't on a horse. Could he didn't want people to think that he was a summary. So that's how we got your and then we also talked about the lepers. We talked about The women as well and I and works. I want to spend some time talking about the animals I really. Don't you know. Because in spirited away we talked about. When did the fantasy stotts of like Shahirah dreaming that this was happening? I'm I'm really not interested personally in the fantasy and when it's real and when it's not to be perfectly honest I feel like I just I. I dipped my toe in and felt great So I remained in that space. So let's let's stay there so we have a high rocky of different sort of animals and spirits as well so I definitely want to cover then the three main groups of animals slash spirits that we have other apes. I kind of regard them more spirits. Because they they seemed more like personages as opposed to like solid creatures We also have moral and the Wolfpack And we also have the Bulls which is headed by ECHO. So you want to start off with the apes the subtle apes I felt like it was is quite interesting and it might also have been deliberate. Learned nece but you know when you talk about apes and you know I. I'm not sure what you're Christian in science classes told you But in regards to evolution if you think about apes you know it it is the more primitive the more sort of genesis in regards to existence. And that's how I partook in regards to how they were feeling and how they wanted to respond to the human mints you You you have them. Throwing rocks with was like really funny like throwing rocks towards moral and towards specifically because AstraZeneca was and he was a human right so they'll like throwing rocks in their general direction. And you know the there were speaking simply there was speaking very permissively and they said we plant trees humans destroy them. We eat the humans. Women's we grow stronger. We kill the humans right and it was a very fundamental pragmatic sort of approach. Yeah it's like we're here minding our how business trying to build our nature and they're fucking it all up so yeah we're going to eat you and fuck you up true so it is a very primitive sort sort of like yeah. Let's go in. Let's do it right but you could also see that. They lost a lot of power that they possibly might have had in previous sort of life. Yeah it seems like they've been through arena you know There clearly disillusioned to the point where they think the only you step for them is to try and get some sort of strengths from the human. That's by eating them. Yeah so it's it's kind of like I felt. Oh sorry for them trying to maintain the forest and trying to plant trees. I think they're the only ones doing that. Yeah they're actually trying. Yeah Yeah Yeah. 'cause I don't think moral and the balls are doing anything about planting trees and that's actually addressed at least in passing. When I should talk first comes to the ironworks? They talked about how the animals weren't happy. They were clearing out the forests right so it was nice. You had some direct wreck sort of correlations in regards to deforestation but then you also had offhand comments that had major sort of impacts especially in regards to the apes off off shore. They were really just trying their best right. And it's like they came to a point where it's like you know. Many men or API men SORTA things so they'll just trying to do their best really true Let's focus on the boss a little bit like we mentioned I'm in the tasting notes of the themes themes pigs is fun little thing that we have of maize ocoee films and he's not bad. He's Dom Tom and is that worse. I think it's waspishly with nearly leadership position but he's not even dumb either now he's dumb ah I think he was just focused to his own detriment to be able to will that much power. You can't be that dumb. Surely I think with him is just model brute force radium lead the PUCK and the fuck. He knew very well that if he held some absorb resentment and became vengeful at the end will towards. When he's dying he'll become this vengeance vengeful spirit? Didn't he gate for share. Yeah but when you get treated so badly for so long is it really. Is it really that much of a surprise when you go on a bloody path of And I guess that's what that's the point of it all because the DA. God kind of said at the end of it all. He'll decide whether you leave. Would I. And I guess that's kind of the point of we see more Koto towards the end and from then on you could just tell the not leaving well the to set in their own ways and and even if they were to live they wouldn't be able to live in a way that would be conducive to peace true and that was quite clear it was. It was sad that it had had to end that way. But like you said with Moral Makoto they just couldn't live in in in a new world because there was too much pain they had suffered too much in to live in peace. That was definitely earned but not necessarily it was the wrong time the you know they had suffered way a too much to be able to enjoy to be able to exist in that sort of peace and when the humans oriented these gases of the balls on. Okay I take it back. He Dom then stone he was spirits. Well that's that's very important because what he thought was more important than what was real and that was his problem. Yeah he he had that hatred right and let's come to that in a second but he had that hatred he had a goal and he didn't say how he got there and end. Let's talk. Let's talk about that for a second because moral I think is a good way to end because we'll also Tie in San as well But when we talk about the spill you know with Polka Rosser even with sin Shahirah in spirited away hey And even upcoming with house moving costs. Will you know spells if you want to have an extended Sort of Reference Stig station and fame pack. You can also add spells into there as well because that's also prevalent in this film as well. Yeah Yeah and you know yes. You have a visual because that really helps to convey that right you have a visual of those like head anti baby worms coming Levy. Is that what it was because that would make the film a lot less interesting for me. You just give the movie rated our me. I fucking riders. Credit is Katie is lucky his estranged kid that he refuses refuses to acknowledge his fourth. Cugat I will get my riotous credit on all films at least the ones featured featured in the reference the station and also in not a see you in the ring brother or Cafod coggins. You'll the six full Kagi. ugh Oh kgosi plenty. You might as well be thawed then give chance to pull. All of our glasses says up because I feel like we're being very talking nodes right now. They got us. Listen to our ladder episode and also out Atta May special with automated and savage at talk. Look at US referencing on Reference Vigo Station. Huda thunk it not Akoto. So let's let's go back to the skins. I think it made sense because sometimes you know when you have characters that a dumb just to drive the along. I think it made sense to his his character that he just wanted to believe it because he wanted to take his brothers and sisters to go and get healed by the D. God so it was a lable intention. Does that have any sort of bearing or not not dummies dominate. Doesn't matter whether o intentions was in the right place on all the elevator. If its intelligent than so why why do you ever talk on this podcast. Ot Kota plumbing the jerome blood. fluey Lee Quinson alert. I wonder do you think we'll cover Quentin Tarantino film this. Yeah thanks germ appreciate it. Oh but wow I've really enjoyed it and we didn't really get into office impressions because we've kind of ready done it on the other two episodes but I do just want to take some time to say that you know. I've always been that kid that just absolutely love dogs. I think developmentally. I resonate more with dogs eggs than I do with humans Like I would rather spend time without dog. Were not but don't tell him he's the Akoto. Talk this household dog. That wild dog is the. He's not leaving. He's Akagi again. Listen to another toy episode But it was very it was very interesting and as someone that really loves dogs. I was very disappointed that once we go to Greyhound. I couldn't ride through the CD on our dog like the princess. One okay but it's quite is quite a beautiful film. I really love princess-mononoke gay and it's definitely the film that will stick with me. It is something that will I will continue to watch it did become a bit too resolute Miyazaki medically that he didn't WanNa end just on the wall and then it happened and then war is bad So we did see a bit more of the ending. I'm GONNA became more of a like a happy heavily ever after SORTA theme to it. I'm Neil gaiman mentioned that he would have made it more resolute in the fact that sign and also I should talk would get medals metals. Well and then. We'll skip off into the sunset couscous. Wow that's sort of wedding it's been awhile it's been awhile since we referenced. Keen Peel So there's is a came peel reference for you. We will reserve your tickets at the pony shirt off shore and I'd like to talk about the. Da god-forbid yes. Yes thank you just for a little bit just a little bit because I think he is. Crap O K P AG ot raw. There's no doubt about it. He sees the Gal all the polls in the world. Yes somehow somehow it's the most powerful thing nobody does fucking nothing and we love you guys and again Any sort of real talks hail Satan about religion We weren't covered On our main sort of podcast. But he really felt like a Christian called to me. He walked his omniscient. He's everything yet yet somehow when things happen he's not that is nausea. Takes him big shot in the fucking head to lift a finger but even then it was the humans I saved him and his head back. He couldn't even catch only two guys running up a hill. Yeah and we knew he was fat. 'cause it was quite evident with the upscale man Jiggle. Goldberg had way more up skirts the NAS car and that's saying something but the de Gaulle. I found the Daego to be very problematic and again if if you guys religious on all on a different extent you'll spiritual the no offense to you guys. But this Ville thematically medically made me wonder why people would believe in a d God or something similar because it's this omniscient sort of power. But he did fucking muffing. You know you had and you also had moral. They will birth trying to help. The apes will try to help themselves all the WHO I. Oh God was doing fuck. Wherever we've bumped coup ever so often you spot him just grazing walking past like I feel like Harry Potter's paternalistic? What is the way more than this? D- God he did more Ataka in the wound. Healing him right. Yeah it's just man it's yet. It was a problem. It was definitely a problem. I did kind of like you. You know if I can take all of my cynical. Mosul coils of that. Hamlet Reference Yasser. Welcome just think he'll Kenneth Branagh stop pretending to two and we all think about Kenneth Branagh not necessarily the hook. You'll power Kenneth Brannagh with any overshot looking at his bald. All spot. That was that was a bit much. Let us know if you want us to cover mid on Oregon's express because we will read the book because we're very learned and thirty is the 2017 muck. If the over was such a stupid car is such nerds. Two people Touching each other. While we're just talking about books gotTA re Dot Gov Chris Teammate right ten little sailors. Mind you Yeah but the the D- gone I really found to be appropriate He he was really the he wasn't necessarily the catalyst but he was really really the pinnacle that people were working towards pilgrimage. If you will And he really fell to deliver not just in spiritual sort of nature but just from the story point of view But again if I can Rattle off my cynical mortal coils. Which is where I was going t before he got jealous? List of Kenneth Branagh I did enjoy the ending. You know it wasn't the most sophisticated But you know they were talking about out the DA. God has died at his chosen for you to live the D. God lives on because he is life and death so I appreciated that in in the sense that it tied the film together From you know humans obeyed to not necessarily sir. I think it was quite full. Development on humans agreed agreed hundred percents Let's finish off with Sawn because again. This is Princess Mononokai Oman. Anarchy him it I really liked it. She was a bad ass bitch. Tom Minder and business You know she needs to ride that Dick every once in so often. But that's been a good for really right ladies yes she. She has no interest in humans. Humans she infarct says that she hates humans. Never forgive them. And that's why she'd returned to the forest the wolves and I guess to a point the suffered for such a long time it's understandable But will reach a point. I think she would need to realize it. Is it your human notion no. She's she's a human but her hatred for human isn't enough for her wanting to live amongst them we can all be. Jane Goodall A.. Okay and live amongst the guerrillas. At least that's my vision. If this podcasting doesn't work out I've got some hippos in Varsha I do WanNa know cake. Just swooping in a bloody dotty river with heap I tease my daddy re if you if you're looking for some travel Nevada is a great place for hippies righty And even if I'm not take you find some other hippies there and you could even pizza tests next to the heaps. which is what you used to do right? Oh yes indeed in deed as well if you guys are interested in MS ocoee joint. Let's let us nor thank you so much friends and Lavas one okay. 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Falling for Fascism with Jason Stanley

American Hysteria

32:58 min | 4 months ago

Falling for Fascism with Jason Stanley

"This season will be further exploring each topic hanging out with experts and enthusiasts of all kinds for more strange stories social commentary and the myths make america ten. I'm your host chelsea leper smith. Today we're talking to jason stanley professor philosophy at yale university and the author of the new york times bestselling book how fascism works patriarchal masculinity sets up men with the expectation that society will allow them the role of soul protectors and providers of their families in times of extreme economic anxiety men already made anxious by perceived loss of status resulting from increasing gender. Equality can easily be thrust into panic by demagoguery directed against minorities here fascist politics intentionally distorts the source of anxiety. A fascist politician has no intention of addressing the root causes of economic hardship fascist. Politics distorts male anxiety heightened by economic anxiety into fear that once family is under existential threat from those reject it structure and traditions. Thank you so much jason for coming on the show. It's truly an honor. Thanks so much chelsea. It's terrific program podcast. You have a vital vital task. You're doing well thank you. I feel the same way about you. So on that note i was as i was reading. How how fascism works. I was really shocked. By how much. Your content aligned with american hysteria. And how all these different themes that. We'd been tying together all these different types of panics against different types of people in different types of situations. I didn't really know that. I was kind of talking about the process of fascism keyword being process right so something that would really help me is if you explained What your definition of fascism is and how it is sort of this process not this destination because we're hearing this word a lot. We're hearing it. It's a very big buzzword right now but you as an expert i'd love to hear you just defined this crazy word. Fascism is a cult of the leader off who promises national restoration in the face of supposed humiliation by immigrants minorities and leftist radicals. The fascist leader pronounces himself as the representation of the nation. And the only solution to bring back the nation in the face of these supposed- humiliations. That's a great very succinct. And how is it so you say. Fascism is not this this destination but rather what do you see as the process of fascism and and what is the end result so we can talk about different things being fascist and people have been minimizing the city by just saying we don't have a fascist regime now so what's to worry about well you know Italy didn't have a fascist regime for several years under one. Mussolini was prime minister Germany didn't have a fascist regime at the beginning So so fascism reiger fascist regimes. Come about when Democratically elected leaders or leaders. Who come in through a democratic process undermine democracy from within by stacking the courts for for example by taking over various parts of the press So so So we can talk about fascism as many things. And i think that when we talk about just as a regime. Were doing ourselves a disservice. Tony morrison in nineteen ninety-five in or howard university. Commencement address racism and fascism says that the united states has always preferred as long preferred fascist solutions to national problems. We now live in a country with the world's highest incarceration rate when historians look back in our country and they think about its status. They'll know that it has incarceration rate that parallels that of the soviet union in the early nineteen fifties. So we have many Marks of a fascist society here even though we do not have a fascist regime We have Vilification of minorities as at the very center of our politics and both political parties And at every election in the united states seems to be about race So this is a fascist occult. We have we have deep. We have Ah kill nick nikiel pal saying an nyu. Br provide of a professor of call talks about native fascist forces and we have deep native fascist forces When i think of fascism i think of it primarily as a kind of culture a kind of political culture and that's why conspiracy theories are so central to it Perhaps it's easiest to begin with. Its opposite a democratic culture Now there are different kinds of anti-democratic cultures. Fascism is just one kind of anti-democratic culture But but it's the kind that faces us in the united states. it's the dante democratic threat that faces us in the united states. So that's why focus it focus on that A a democratic culture is a culture that respects truth Democracy centered around truth because democracy has to values freedom and equality and both freedom and equality require truth Freedom requires truth. Because if you're lied to you're not free. That's what the matrix is about. People in the matrix aren't free. That's why they wanna get out of the matrix. You need truth to be free and you need truth for equality because political equality is speaking truth to power. A democratic society democratic culture is one where a liar is punished. a democratic culture is one more one a politician lies. They lose support. If you wanna destroy democratic culture you attack the truth You represent your opponent as a vicious animate A legitimate political but as say Someone who's hiding paddle file ring And then and then and then truth doesn't matter anymore because who cares. If the person piloting a pedophile ring is telling the truth they're hiding a pedophile ring. And who cares if you're lying. You're defending a little children yet. That's a quite quite a transportation right into the present moment and something that we talked about on our fake news episode. And i mean how could we not talking about a satanic pedophile colts. Pretty much constantly since the nineteen eighty s. But on that note. I wanted to ask you how you think. Conspiracy theories and disinformation You call sort of the pillar of fascist ideology. So i was hoping you talk a little bit more about that whether these conspiracy theories be within america or kind of comparing them Because they seem these themes seemed to repeat so if you want to compare them to other fascist regimes that you've also written and read about so. The very first article. I ever wrote for a newspaper was on birtherism in the new york. Times in twenty eleven ways of silencing. It's why i quit. That's why i moved from sort of purely academic work to writing for the newspapers a decade ago because when birtherism came on the scene i basically said okay. I have to drop everything because as the child of to holocaust survivors. I'm well aware that conspiracy theories mark the beginning of an end to democracy. What conspiracy theories do or certain kinds of conspiracy theory is they they mark out your enemy as a as fundamentally satanic as fundamentally opposed take to all values all virtuous values and civilization itself And i think. I think once you start conspiracy theorizing. You can't help. But ending. Up in with anti semitic conspiracies because i think antisemitism fundamentally is an ideology that law that represents jews as at the center of a conspiracy to take the world over and so ultimately so now this is not to say that jews can't jewish people themselves can't use conspiracy theories they cannon do There are many jewish supporters of far right nationalist movements But it's the say that the structure is an anti-semitic structure so at the very heart of national socialism was the conspiracy theory the protocols of the elders of zion forgery which is supposedly written by jewish people by the elders zion jewish people and his this incoherent thing where wealthy jews were supposedly promoting social justice movements in order to promote minorities Women and minorities to take to do a race war to take over from whites and they genocide white genocide and then the jews could then take over and impose world communism. so that's the protocols of the zion. Why detail but it's very familiar. Henry ford gave out five hundred thousand copies of the protocols of the elders of zion in the united states. so because it's so familiar it's something that You can you know constantly Redo the ku klux klan the basis of the second klein's ideology is the protocols. They said jews are trying to bring around world communism by inciting blocks into a race war against whites and then jews will using unions will take over at impose marxism and communism. This is exactly the basis of today's trump campaign one hundred percent exactly the same. I mean it's it's we're hearing. I mean something that. I read kind of reading ridiculous like alex jones ian type sites. There was the story of. I saw the jewish ball which were then controlling black lives matter that were then controlling the mask mandate because they wanted to hide. Patriot faces from god. You know this sort of like just it. But it can all that sort of what i loved about. Your book is how fascism alters an entire reality it doesn't just It doesn't just give you random conspiracies to you know folded your worldview kind of constructs an alternative reality where you've explained that debate becomes impossible. So can you talk a little bit about this idea that because i love the way you put it because there's that argument like okay. We're on college campuses. We need this healthy debate right. You can't thrive academically or intellectually if you don't have opposing viewpoints coming in but as you point out it's not so much about opposing viewpoints. It's about kind of this. This platform being unavailable for debate. Yes once you so people say oh you've got to have every viewpoint in there but some viewpoints by their nature seal off of you points from rationality. If the viewpoint is black americans are inferior or black people are inferior intellectually and barrier. Then you've represented any black person who tries to argue against that either as intellectually inferior or as self interested in trying to argue against you that that that they can't be rational You know so if you say women are inferior you know than any woman. Arguing against you automatically can't be rational because they're a woman so they have a stake in the matter. And so and and what these ideologies that represent other human beings as less rational by their nature because if they're women if they're block if they're muslim the Or having a secret agenda say and so not being reasonable. Because i have a secret agenda. What that means these very ideologies. Say that you can't have rational debate with them. If the ideology is women can't be rational then. How could you have a rational debate with the woman so and then your not being rational because the very premise of your debate is that women can't engage with you so very central to scientific racism from its various options. Something stephen jay gould brilliantly. Discuss says Is is in the miss measure of man Scientific racists have viewed themselves as more more objective as heroes for free speech and all their terrible errors You know if you want a clear. Example is fredrick. Kaufman's 1896 race traits of the american negro which discussing how fascism works and he declares himself is purely objective and scientific and it's true that he has many many charts and statistics. They're arguing that black. People are physically weaker than white people. Slower than white people can lift less weight than white people. Those are things that we anyone now. They're not part of contemporary racism. That black i'm black. Americans are physically weaker but that was considered objectively established fact. Because what he did is he took a whole bunch of statistics on On black american soldiers and physical training on them and showed that they That white soldiers could lift more weights. And we're faster But what he didn't consider is that black amount of the black soldiers were malnourished He didn't consider their black soldiers got worse treatment. He erased racism from from it. So what this quote unquote objectivity does is. It makes you it masks reality from you. It's interesting that this person would have written about black folks being Weaker when they're also sort of the opposite stories right of whoever is that other of the of the you know rural white population Racial others People who have different gender identities sexualities People who are jewish. Obviously there's this What you said like. There's the panic element especially during sort of like the long term war on drugs black-americans painted as you know monstrous impervious to police bullets. And i think all of that you know because we have this sort of scientific racism and then we have sort of the more overt racism which we still have today. i'd say But i could you kind of talk about these. These panics that are created over these villains that are often considered satanic monstrous or Inhuman in some way and how those themes show up again and again like these particular panics that we've talked about you know like the sexuality of teenagers Protecting children from you know. Stranger pedophile calls Anything from you know the of the alumina to satanic cults that we're seeing again. So can you just sort of talk about how these themes of panic and these themes of fear come back again and again in a fascist ideology so fascism really centers violence. The idea is it's a it's a war it's your leader represents the nation and there are the people who are trying to destroy the nation There there's there's various kinds of opponents and fascism there's the brilliant coup plotters of fascism the d- the element of the leftist radicals as often historically played by. Jews could be played by muslims seat. They played by muslims now in us politics. And then there's the people they're trying to incite you know Black americans in this case and then you also so since it's war you're trying to incite violence against your enemies The minorities the leftist said. Satra you need to create fear and panic. You need to justify violence against th up. You need to justify a brutality against them and so you need to. So it's no surprise that hitler borrowed tropes said argued that we that nazis should borrow tropes from the allied first world war propaganda about the germans. The allied first world war propaganda about the germans represented the germans as monstrous fruits. Raping german women And so So this patriarchal masculinity is central here. Because what you do is you represent the other as a threat to your women is older and children absolutely absolutely. It puts it all together. It's a threat to the patriarchal family structure. So and you say demand. You can't protect your women and children so two of the great conspiracy theories last. Several centuries one is blood libel against jews. The idea that jews are kidnapping christian babies for their for their religious rituals. He using their blood. So you're saying you know you have to violence against the jews because you have to protect your families and then The conspiracy theory behind lynching of black americans which sad black black men were raping a white women These were threats to masculinity at rep. Told man you can't take care of your women and children with you and on have the other mall together. we've got the We've got the blood. Libel is is inside queuing on And all of them appeal. They raise the the fear of loss of masculinity. You can't protect your family. You need a strong leader. Who's not going to be bound by liberal things by by human rights who's going to bash the opponent and save your family either be wells long ago in southern harz identified the structure as centered around patriarchal masculinity She said she said speaking to white women said this represents you as in need of protection by white man. She's like this. This represents you as lacking in agency unable to fall in love with With a black man And you see this all over the world. You see it as i discuss in my book the hindu love jihad. The the idea that muslims in india are are targeting hindu women To marry them and bring them over to islam. So that has motivated enormous anti-muslim violence in india at its again based around patriarchal masculinity so. I think that what is also at the center of this which is a part obviously if not the heart of patriarchal masculinity is the idea of the white genocide. And i think that is like underlying. I think people don't even know they're afraid of it almost like it's this underlying anxiety that exploited. So would you mind talking a little bit about that. And maybe if it does relate to other places because it's not like witnesses the default but it's whatever right the colonizing kind of overclass brilliant absolutely. You're absolutely right you can't you can't disentangle race and gender here. Racism this kind of White supremacy its its ugliest manifestation is the the fear that That non whites will take over and take your women porco. Your women So it's no surprise that in historically at american racism the people that were considered most inferior were not blacks or whites mixed race. People and frederick hoffman. He argues he's scientifically shown mixed race. People are the weakest the most prone to disease the least intelligent the most venal the most criminal And you know so because that's supposed to be the most horrific of all So loss of cult cultural dominance This is the center of fascism center. Fascism is hierarchy the hierarchy of white over black white over non white the hierarchy of man over woman so So white replacement theory that you know it went in charlottesville. When they were chanting. Jews will not replace us. Many people misunderstood that as saying jews will not. Will you know we will not have a society. That's more jewish than non-jewish. No that's not what it was the jews what the jews were supposedly doing replacing white christians by non white christians by non whites not replacing them by jews of so the idea. Is that that white genocide. This was the this was central behind the tree of life. killings two years ago. I october twenty seventh almost exactly two years ago. From the recording of this podcast. The tree of life killer was focused on the hebrew emigrant society which which sort of his emblematic of this idea. That jews are bringing immigrants in to replace the white race Now this gats diskettes to how to think about this internationally with say in where we're not talking about any whites. We're talking about a dialectic between hindus and muslims But you have the same thing. This fear that muslims were replaced hindus. I just also wanted to touch on the fact that this work is really personal for you. And you mentioned that your family had survived the holocaust. But i know there's a little bit more to that story. And i was just interested in that because it will really inform. I think why this work and kind of carry on carrying on this kind of work has been really important for you. So i think principally fear for your point that both my parents are have been the targets of of the kind of conspiracy theorizing and vilification that faces black americans for example in the united states and muslims and mexican immigrants and i was raised with these stories from my family not necessarily of the violence they encountered and both of them did experience terrible violence but of the neither were death camps but my father lived through historic knock was was beaten on the streets of berlin as a child as a five year old But both of them remembered how they were represented as monstrous says viruses as enemies of the nation. My father told me about how when he first learned to read. He realized the horrific things people were saying about about him. and my mother when she was repatriated back to poland at the age of five and she lives in poland until she was eight. There is still anti. And the way in which people talked about jewish people as disease as dirty as as evil as threats as satanic. These ways of talking about them affected their whole lives. And so for me. What we see when we see these discussions of sharia law for instance these conspiracy theories about muslims when we see the way that our our our president and his administration are speaking of immigrants. I know that six seven and eight year old children will be scarred by this talk. Even if we overcome this horror they will be scarred by their talk and they'll pass it on to their children and the way that my parents passed it on to me. Their their children will be able to identify things in the future. As i've been able to identify things but it also brings with it a kind of lifelong trauma that i wish. Frankly we could avoid. I think that. That's i mean it's man i don't know it's a little. I'm a little speechless. Because it's so incredible not to flatter you. But you know even able to to achieve. I think sort of in in the honor of things that have happened in the past and then also a missed what promises to possibly be at least a lot more conflict of some kind going forward As we see these themes these stories these narrative these conspiracy theories really propping up this administration. Um and i guess We'll see what that means going forward So lastly Something we like to ask our guests Is after flattering. You i will humble you Is is there a time that you believed something. That wasn't true whether that be 'cause i don't know if you've gotten to any of the episodes i talk about my past. As a conspiracy theorist in how that really in my father as proper alumina person and how that really affected me. And how i had to pull myself out of that type of thinking and what did it was going a little too deep and finding the anti semitism on earth and saying oh wait what am i doing and so i'm wondering whether there was something in your life. That that that duped ya. Yeah ironically ironically given the segway. I would say it was being misinformed of the history of israel. I thought that that israel had always been occupied by both jewish people and palestinians and palestinians hadn't been driven off their land and and in fact just were murderous towards jewish people and And unfairly wanted to claim the whole land as their own when jews had always lived there and the culture was always jewish. And why. I believe an incredible number of false things about israel and and i was extremely resistant to being told that actually jewish i mean my parents were people who fled europe but that jewish people who flat other countries removed palestinians from their land. And and this was very. I was very resistant to learning this. It seemed to me antisemitism semitism at first and then i realized that actually palestinians are just like me and they've had an experience of horror at the hands of my fellow jewish people and and my resorts resistance. I had to accepting that. Because of course identify with jewish jewish israelis so that to me was a big moment. That happened not so long ago. Maybe twenty years ago. Fifteen years ago twenty years ago when i first realized the history of israel and had i been blanking out that history because it ran against the things that i so much wanted to believe and was raised. Believe believing. it's really hard to wrench yourself out of those things. We talk about on the episode of confirmation bias and also like this belief polarization where basically if you're presented with counter evidence you just even want to double down harder and so i think it's just it's like this wrenching apart because it is. It's your reality that you're wrenching apart and nuts terrifying for people and that's why there is some sympathy empathy in my heart. Because you know it is. It is propaganda that is affecting people who don't otherwise sort of want to seek out nuance Like we're talking about like you want to seek out the nuance of the israeli palestinian conflict. And how complicated that is for you emotionally and it's something we all have to do constantly and it's not easy and it feels bad but if we do you rent yourself out and you look at reality. I then became terrified about the safety of the palestinian people. I'm worried about safety of everybody. In israel both sides because they both vilify each other. I know that there are so many people who are in the position that i was of believing false things of believing that no wrong was ever done to the palestinian people that their claims are entirely groundless and so i know that and that justifies tremendous violence so when we these stories these conspiracy theories. They're there to these falsehoods are there to justify tremendous violence against the others who seek to Really just have equality. Yeah absolutely yeah. That's that's I think that's a really good note for us to end on so I thank you so much. This has been such an interesting conversation. i just again it matches up so much with with the panics that we talk about here in the conspiracy theories so i think that our listeners probably getting a whole lot out of this so thank you again jason. You so much chelsea. Thanks to the work. That you and your podcasts. Do you to as of this recording. In fact as of just a few hours ago joe biden won the twenty twenty election and immediately the alarmist disinformation about voter fraud has exploded starting at the highest levels of government and trickling down. I believe jason's message resonates even more deeply now as we wait to see how this administration behaves in the months. Please go checkout how fascism works. It's vital and next time on the show. We're talking about some of the most caddy queens of fake news. That's right televangelists. This episode was produced by miranda zipper with sound by clear komo studios. please consider becoming a patron. You've got content every month and also come and check out our social media. Thanks as always listening as we move forward together into whatever the future brings ready. I hope to keep working hard. But for now i hope you let yourself have a great week.

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Ep 129 - Holy S!  Mike Cannon is a father.

Opie Radio

1:21:07 hr | 1 year ago

Ep 129 - Holy S! Mike Cannon is a father.

"Every time i say like are you exactly and that's how we begin. Trashing sharada live small who i invited to to get parts to do a little podcasting with mike hannan and myself and mike sappho and maybe chris distefano but chirac doesn't really holy crap look in the tits on this one again. There are some uncomfortable breasts in new york city well oh she just covered covered up because we were all looking well. What what do you expect. You know where she's not wearing a bra row. He's now mad at us out this one just walking fucking tim hydac. The blonde is just walking down seventy second so funny. I legitimately thought you were talking about the four four foot by four foot hispanic woman those those are some pretty awful turks lettera square. Dan spongebob crews that god has a sense of humor the blonde walking by she was probably a thirty six pushing a di no bra young so there there is not much of a bounce going on so we both start staring. Is it okay go in your sleep. Okay even though you're married with a kid and and so so i'm staring you're staring mike staring and then the guy gets mad and she covers up like do women understand what that does to a guy. I thought that was the goal for the most part right like like when i'm wearing a certain outfit. I'm hoping to get off lers. I'm hoping somebody will just be like man. That guy looked sharp and i assume when you're showcasing a little bit your breasts people that are i hope people appreciate them. Someone's got explained the whole thing to us because i guess we're not supposed to off goal but she looks like how dare you look at my breasts line fairness jerking off so i might have pushed it over the line i want to <hes> give gephardt's a little bit of a plug so this is where we do a lot of our podcast mike candidates since we left westwood one and it's it's it's a great beer joints called gephardt's beer culture on seventy second street between broadway and west end avenue and a lot of the fans of this podcast or stop by checking it out cool cool just because we podcast from here which is nice. I've never been here. This looks exactly my drinking speed yeah. Absolutely that's what i thought when i said hey you wanna podcast i was thinking to myself. I had the perfect spot for you but then i forgot that you you stop drinking for seven or eight months yeah yeah i'm i'm almost eight months and i don't know if i'm going to go back. I'm kind of in the no funds own where i'm writing better and i'm more of a human being and right oppressed and you're thirty pounds lighter thirty pounds lighter. I'm high all the the time but like you know so that that helps me not feel as much but so what's the difference between still getting high and and getting being high and also being a heavy drinker. I'm way more functional when i'm stoned and i still have the work ethic when i drink. I am totally fucked like i'm. I guess that's like who i am. Deep down is just somebody who doesn't want to do much boozing and all my ambitions are yeah just like yeah. I'm just gonna. I'm just going to graze but i thought marijuana would do that would make you just say fuck it to everything. I know what made you a little bit more creative but it also makes you it kind of bid on the lazy side. I think it's different for different people for whatever reason like i before she was pregnant. I got high with my wife and she <hes> she was having a tough time for the most part she was. Just kinda like like oh. Why are you. I feel weird. I'm like we smoked. It's like oh that's right forgetting that she was under the influence yeah like why aren't you weirdos like i dunno. I feel great and she's like this is built for you at this moment where she was like oh this. Is this works for you. You'd probably have a much higher tolerance than her right yeah and also i at this point. I smoke a specific type of pot that is more or less specifically for me too so i'm back in the pot game. <hes> i like you but i'm i'm more than different than his point. You gotta help me out which which one yeah uh-huh yeah what ails you. What do you mean like for me i am. I don't want lane superhighway brain. Okay you know what i i mean. Constant thoughts wanted thoughts very difficult to organize with pot it kind of bottlenecks the traffic a little bit okay and allows me to kind of slowly sift through everything so it's a it's a little bit slower. I'm not as chris what are some of the unwanted thoughts mostly self hatred and mike guy and guilt. That's another thing with drinking my dad like when i grew up he was an alcoholic in recovery yeah go into a into with him since i was four years old yeah so i mean that was kind of my babysitter is shivering adults past coffee and just talking about all the horrible shit. They've done wait. Your dad thought it. It was okay to bring you to a meetings at four years old yeah. I guess i got a i got a six year old. I can't imagine bringing her. Even when i- podcast i you gotta say in terms of you know in regards to his behavior. That was probably the most constructive that wasn't even top fifty worshiped he would do right but ah that was fine but i also was brought up to like anybody that held a beer. They were an alcoholic so that's what i was taught to judge and look at okay. Kinda took pot and psychedelic collect some therapy to break free of that judgment but it still is that for me gotcha so when i drink the next day not only do i have the anxiety of the hangover hangover and like the self hatred of now. I wasted a day. I burn this. What did i say you know who who's dick. Did i grab. It's you know i'm also i have that stuff that has kind of been embedded into me. Where now i'm hating every it's not gay if you're drunk. That's exactly good. If you're blacked picked out going meetings where your dad at four years old i bet you that helped to become a comedian right. I'm sure yeah and it also i i've gone on through the years like so even when i was in college and just starting to get to drink my like i would go with my dad and all it did was reinforce that i didn't have a a problem because you listen and that's probably actually a bad thing too because at some point you know i didn't need to rein it back and there are times that i could have done it lassen and and you know focused a little more but somebody is always doing it way worse so you go to a and you hear somebody like you know. Wake up and i'd make some breakfast activists. I'd i'd have like a morning beer with breakfast and then i'd get on the train and i'd have my beer in a bag sip that on the train then i'd get off the train. I'd walk to work. I'd stop in the bar. Get like a bloody mary before or work through a bumper coke in the bathroom goaded work. You know get a little done do a little bumper coke underneath the desk <hes> every once in a while go to launch a couple of cocktails at lunch. Come back to the office. Finish up work then go to happy hour. Do a bunch of blow and then kind of you know. The whole thing starts all over and i'm like yeah i am. The man like i've never had a problem yeah. I have no issues whatsoever. Exactly you remember one day a story from when you work when you go. We're going as a kid. I remember there was like an older kid kid and we were like talking. I tried to joke about this but it got too sad and it was like kind of an off handed reference that i was trying to make it. It sound like i made it up but my my this kid was. We were talking. Which one's your dad and i was like. Oh he's the one like constantly smoking cigarettes over there. I was like which one's yours and he's like oh. He's the one telling the story about how he worked over my mom because she overcooked the spaghetti that has stuck in my brain that wording exactly for my whole life i can almost see the guy who's played though man. I love spaghetti. The people overcook it. It's infuriating. If you fuck up ben you know every once but twice you gotta learn nothing worse than leaving the spaghetti in the water. A little to mention that i think is part of the old italian cookbook is just a nice punch in the face. Fuck it up yeah so yeah we're here gephardt's with my canada and last time i had you on the podcast you announce to the world that you were going to be a father yeah yeah and then you know. Follow your social. Media and stuff haven't actually seen you since soon as you had a kid. I'm like oh my god. I gotta get this guy on the podcast. If someone has a good take on whole pregnancy thing and then having a kid i i think it's mike cannon over almost anyone out i mean now you probably will disappoint me. It was like all right no but go all right so go back. Well yeah about seven or eight months sure so i told you how it happened right eight right before i went to the middle east i get into that. You've got to refresh my so like we hadn't been trying and the pregnancy to me was a surprise apparently like like my wife had been like preparing for for a while. We went to bloom on vacation and apparently did like these spiritual ceremonies and she's like setting intentions and pulling pulling tarot cards and shit just doing everything in her power to like white woman witchcraft into this world. Wait till loom in mexico yeah. They're so beautiful you you went to the ruins and all that we actually didn't do that because we was fucking but yeah we did. We did the sonoda as and all that stuff we kind of it was like one of those really great vacations where we didn't do shit which are so few and far between because my wife is like captain activities and so anytime that we can like you know. I'm trying to remember the mayan ruins we went to. I guess they call it to loom or something to loom ruins whatever and on the way out sorry. We'll get back to all but i can't believe you just mentioned to loom. This guy goes. Hey you wanna hold a tiger. Oh shit. I'm like yeah. I know it wasn't drunk or hi right and so this guy hands me a tiger tiger that was more than a cub. It was heavy as shit polish and i got a great little video for twitter instagram and youtube and all that thinking nothing think of it. I got fucking attacked by people no kidding. They're like you know <hes>. Everyone is encouraged not to do that because you know you pay. The guy ten fifteen bucks everywhere. I don't even remember maybe even twenty dollars and you hold a tiger who gets to do that. Turns out the tigers are all drugged up and stuff fucking hurt. You and i didn't even ask that. I'm just like yeah. I'm holding a tiger yeah right and then. What are you going to read it like check. It's papers. I got the shit kicked out of me on twitter people kidding. That's is unreal mad. Yeah i mean at that point. It's like all right. Mistake made l. assume the guy knew what he was doing. When that's the thing about when when you travel mike is a big traveler when you go elsewhere. They let you do crazy. Shit that you're you. Don't get to do in america and you just in your mind. You just assume wow you just stopped me. Cold holy shit mike showing us a picture of him with the tiger a full grown dead one. He killed. I let them do it because they they held it down and he just punched it to death that just like that chick that thinks she's so cool with the dead durant right. Actually that's shit pisses me off. What's the story the tiger now down in thailand highland in chiang mai and the first one we went to they would definitely drugged because they were just call motto sitting there and then you get chicks. You know i put it right on twitter. Five hundred followers and the people crushed me looked into it and then we went to a real one row sanctuary and you can tell the difference there live walking around you gotta sign papers and stuff licking their lips taylor. You can't go in there to feed feed them like so much then you can go in because they lay around then you can go with a few minutes pitchers. Homeboys are dan you man wow but i mean the pictures cools hell man but as also i went to a cockfight in bali for our honeymoon. I had like a driver that we paid eleven cents and he would take he was taken around us around these like you know how. How weird are you guys. Do you wanna get weird with it and we're like how's fucking weird with it so he was like let's go to a cockfight. We're the two only two white people there. My wife was the only woman so i of course i'm assuming she's going to be beheaded clin- there's something and so were there and they're betting they're tying daggers to their feet because that's the way to make a humane because you know otherwise. They're just bludgeoning lodging each other to death beaks. They're trying to make the kill quicker exactly yeah so but i bet on it and you know i i was so poor four at picking winners that people were waiting for me to place my bet so they could bet the opposite i i didn't win a single one hundred percent from the field for losing put put report. How hard is it. I don't know i guess it was like statistically impossible what i did but i read every guy that was in the catcher's position nations smoking forty eight cigarettes in a matter of minutes. It's like just watching me putting in their ads and winning money we went to the bahamas and we went on one of these excursions excursions where the like you know you could scuba dive not scuba dive snorkel snorkel with sharks. I'm like shit. I'm like all right. I guess they know what they're doing so we just assume we signed some weird paper and no one reads it to sign because you want to get on the boat and next thing you know we're we're diving in the bahamas <hes> sorry scuba diving in the bahamas and they have like a box of just sean at the bottom and they open that shit up and sharks come from everywhere but they're like <hes> <hes> don't worry mom there reef sharks and reef sharks won't hurt. You look like they'll hurt. You and we're scuba diving and they're like don't panic when they come circling or clean up toward the surface. They're just curious and now we not reef sharks all around us holy fuck and then all of a sudden you know i'm like i'm still thinking they really know what to doing. They've been doing this for twenty thirty years. Next next thing you hear one of the guys go out of the water. That's not aretha shock and we're like why did swimming for their lives to get back on the kind of shark it was but but it wasn't a resort holy. Take these chances and we used to on the radio. We would talk about you know excursions around the world people would call in with the crazy z. ash it. I'm trying to remember but i remember. I think it was alligators and you could buy an actual goat for dollars alive golden. Just throw the pen holy america. They like jurassic park. It'll give his fucking awesome. That's why into loom with the sonoda like you. You know people are like it's a natural pool. There's no sharks like don't worry about that but then we're walking in there and there are signs that say corps kc misspelled for crocodiles right and and i was like what the fuck it's usually pretty cool but we get in there and you never know. You can't really see where anything is coming from and they're like yeah. We saw a couple before they're kind of scrambled pulled off the water and then you see a couple across the way and they swim into the water and i'm like yeah. I'm in here for eight seconds and i'm going back to the pool at the walk this. What what is this pool sonoda. Yeah i never heard for the not i guess is like a naturally formed a body of water okay like it. I guess washed up to enclose a pond filled with ocean water so it has all the saltwater cool still got ocean life in it but it doesn't have any flow for many other bodies as a water completely self-contained right yeah and it spiritual. I guess i mean into loom. That wasn't spiritual values. Just something that we went to like you know agila chill out and they get rid of the heat or whatever but where we stayed fuck i'm trying to think of the place which was awesome but we stayed at this resort and they had us do this kind of like lighting incense or whatever it was and cleansing of our spirit. You know i it just the whole thing while i'm sitting there wishing for career success asked my wife wishing for my come to work. Oh really yeah and that's what led to the pregnancy so we didn't even try on that vacation. I was was still pulling like a savage and you know. I was always pulling real early than the time it happened was our was our first real attempt where i was going to the middle east to perform for the troops and the night before i was like joking around about being this hero going over there and i was like hey like a soldier just in case i die over there. I might as well like you know. Drop a batch hat yeah so as we're having sex. I literally as i'm coming. I'm deploy came inside of her and the day. I got back twelve l. twelve or thirteen days later. She told me she was pregnant and worked at swung to the sides of her uterus instantly and you wanted to kane right or were you tightening toward soared or no no. It's something that for sure wanted. I didn't know what ming and there is no proper timing especially with comedy. I feel like the only time i would really been like comfortable with it is had i had already done nine seasons of seinfeld. If you're living off eight hundred million dollars is there you go yeah then i would have felt like totally totally fine but now this is my job and this is reality yeah what was going to say oh shoot. I just lost my thought. I just lost my thought on something. <hes> that's fine so how was the pregnancy and joe's great. I mean my my wife like she didn't have any sickness. Nothing like nothing really hard or any complications or anything like that. We both i read <hes>. I read a little bit about it and i read some parenting books and pregnancy stuff <hes> a worship yeah i mean it lasts horsh it. That's what's so funny is like i was in aruba doing gigs. Bob kelly was out there too who and <hes> i'm sitting there aruba. Have you been no. It's like the official island of massachusetts. I idea bobby over the years has tried to talk me into going to rubel and then my my mentor in this business up there in rochester he goes to aruba and okay but no. I'm aware dude. I gotta that'd be honest with you though because the one thing that turns me off about aruba is they say there's a windy side so yeah so that's always made me panic like what if i fucked up and we're on the windy side. I don't think any of the hotels are on that side yeah. Just stick the locals to down their own hatches when i'm sitting there like you know i'm reading the books during the day and catch some sun. This mother walked by and she goes. It doesn't say nothing. It doesn't say nothing. I'm like okay cool. She's like you gotta. Learn on your own. I'm like yeah. I know thanks lady. I'm serious raid now and i'm like all right like beat it you fucking blotchy skin mania actually but she's not wrong when i i found out i was going to be a father is in san francisco now. When i got fired from the big radio gig many years ago for the sex sam thing i just wandered the earth and i finally went san francisco for the first time because my old college roommate from genesee oh boy that's where he lives so i i made the ride from l._a. To san francisco and i hung up i hung out up there for a month on a bunch of years on with with my girl and we were married and i said let's go to san francisco. I gotta show this place. It's amazing amazing so we get there and obviously something wasn't right and i'm like all right. We got you know i want to take an alcatraz and we're gonna rent rent bikes in an inline skates over the golden gate bridge and then we're going to do this and we're going to go up to wine country blah blah blah and she goes i. We have to take a pregnancy test. I'm like what day for us so long story short we. We we do the pregnancy test and the hotel find out that you know maybe a father. The parents and i'm like holy shit excited like anybody else because we you know obviously we were planning on that and then after the moment stupid me. I'm like all right so we're gonna go to alcatraz and i'm i'm gonna go over the golden gate bridge. She's like no we're going to the bookstore and we're gonna get books and she walked out of it was barnes and noble which is now long gone with a stack of books in the same shit as those books that is going to prepare you to be a father. Yeah i mean i just panicked about like when to take her to the hospital. You know what i mean like. I was the only thing i was worried and we ended up actually hiring dula josh. If you have the means i would recommend it because they were like just that she was a solid lead coach. Yeah the entire time really walked us through the entire process right couple of you know lactation courses and stuff like that her and i just took copious. It's not on what am i looking for together to the hospital because all of my information was coming from like father of the bride and knocked up. We're like you know. The water breaks breaks. You'd have eight seconds to get to the hospital otherwise you're spitting this baby on your closet floor. What you what you find out is the news tells. The story of the taxicab. Yeah delivered a baby today. In manhattan that is rare of course it turns out when their water breaks. You've got another eighteen hours. I tell us this shit forever forever and we had we had a false alarm because <hes> you know it a little bit graphic but her mucus plug started coming out a few days before the actual labor got underway but we we thought that meant it was time we'd left in the middle of the night like three days before it was supposed to happen and we get the back in a in an uber with some acidic. I playing hebrew blues. I've literally never heard like literally blues riffs with it's like a b._b. King singing in like also hebrew it was the most bizarre experience in my life but we were talking and i'm easing her through her contractions you'd like was i guess pissed off because he just kept turning up the volume he was not happy wasn't ended the experience. One star exit that son of a bitch exac echo. I want to hear that music. I'm gonna look it up on youtube tonight. I shot for shot with you with this so in her water breaks and we go to the hospital and i'm thinking just like you with the movies and stuff. We'll have this kid in the middle of central park as we're trying to drive through central park to get to the hospital so we get to the hospital and obviously we're going to have a kid and i said the stupidest thing ever i look at the the lady that's taken all the vitals and stuff check us in and everything and they're basically saying you're going to have this kid you know and i go. Is this gonna take. This is gonna take long they five a._m. Wake up for me. I mean i'll explain this to the day i die. I'll never win and i get it but to me like i was doing morning radio and i wasn't a good sleeper and when her water broke the timing couldn't have been any worse because i was so tired. We're in in our apartment already. She was cutting strawberries and water broke it on mike holy fuck. I was panicking because i'm like. I don't know if i'll literally be able to keep my eyes so when we got to the hospital below is panicking and that's what i said is gonna take. My wife will be like you son of a bitch but i in my defense. I was panicking like i don't wanna <hes> yeah. I don't wanna be a loser here and pass out totally yeah so we got through that man that yeah are are pregnancy was super easy and <hes> pregnant sachs is not my favorite thing in the entire world not to mention i went to fucking aruba so i had to glove up right after that which because of my exposure to zeka so if i didn't wanna beetlejuice headed baby i literally wear a condom for the rest of the pregnancy so that just you know just killed are both of our libidos not to mention the baby and also feeling a child kick while immediate boehner killer. What about too tight bubis though yeah. I mean that that was pretty fun. I'd squeeze those while jerking off while she was sleeping. Better realize he's worked there. It's okay you're the best of but i got it back up before you go through the whole hospital thing so <hes> you did you go and do the classes so we just had the dula so she came to us. Oh okay yeah instead of doing the lamar's ride and like that and we did we did. We did the classes and you being a stand up comedian. You missed a great great opportunity because there's a lot of fucking these classes so we go and my my wife couldn't have been cooler but then they showed the film they actually actually show a birth and so the lady in the front of the room who basically told us how much she hates kids. I'm like why are you teaching this class if she's she's she loves dogs obsess about our dogs talk about dogs and say. I don't even know why people would want to have kids but anyway joking and i'm thinking been maybe her supervisor should realize that he's not the right person to be doing this because she's lost her passion because we're all panicking. We're all first time parents. Obviously you want someone. That's it's like oh. It's beautiful and this and that but she's like oh my god. Why would he do this because live in new york and you you know you don't have a lot of room and i'm like whatever so it was time in a show the film and she actually goes if any of you any of you people are going to get squeamish. Raise your hand. You don't have to watch the film. Tom and i'm sitting there like no fucking way as any. We're going to raise their hand because you know how women are when they're like. We're close now. At this point. She's probably eight months pregnant eight and a half months pregnant it. Everyone in the room is like they're just struggling and our jobs are basically to hold their hand right. This fucking guy raises his hand. The whole league raises his hand and gets escorted out while his wife is now his wife. I don't know for sure but she looked like she's gonna have the kid any second yeah and he raises his hand. I'm like what a scumbag home again then he gets escorted out of the room and she has to watch the film of giving birth. You see what happens to her yeah and he couldn't handle and he's out in the hall that marriage. I would love to know uh who would fucking do that. Even if even if you are squeamish 'cause you're is a make believe you're watching the film or something right through it for the love. How many murder scenes in movies like okay. This is a bit much. I remember he was like nerdy guy and he just raised his hand like i let out a look at me. I'm like yeah. I'm the least a piece of shit here right. I'm like oh. You can't do that. Championing my wife right we had we did a lactation course even after we gave birth to the kid and so it's like i wasn't there. Actually it was just for the women and nicole. My wife was in the in the in the waiting room with all these people and they're going through asia couple walked in and they're like what we have to feed the baby the baby what does it eat and drink literally early asked what does it eat and drink pepsi. What the fuck it. That's beyond the language barrier. That's amazing yeah. It is amazing amazing so then you get to the hospital and how many hours before checking in and and the birth so we did the false alarm then we then then we you know we waited a few days. We're gonna get induced on a wednesday at five a._m. But her her <hes> contractions started happening before that one a._m. That morning they started started happening and they were like they were five minutes. Apart lasting amended each and they were it was going consistently for our and now with the apps. They kind of update you each time where it's like. This is a practice contraction. Don't worry to walk around. It'll help your face -ment it'll help you dilate open. These are starting to get a little more real like maybe have have a meal before you go to the hospital. Take a shower like you have a little bit of time but get ready to go yeah and then and then it gives you the get your ass to the fucking hospital right now we didn't i don't. I don't know how anybody did it without everything that i had because i like i would have been clueless right and useless that without all of that is amazing so we get the note to like go to the hospital. We end up calling this uber driver. He's the exact opposite of the last guy that we had in the sense that he turned down the volume. Oh you of his music and like adjusted by the way feel free to give birth in the back of my car. I got this shit rolling. Don't go viral. Don't won't play on youtube. We'll get lively right right so we're just sweet enough guy but we go and i it was still like i guess it took us twenty four hours so long as fuck mundul got there. She's massaging my wife. She's helping her with stretches on the big exercise ball and she's helping her tried to like get a face because my wife's <hes> service was shut like a submarine door like just absolutely sealed to the brim wasn't letting any light or in or out real. Yes we were trying to you know even with the postseason we started out. We started the induction so we did the <unk> tocine. We did all this stuff and it all all it did was kind of like it it. It found a little bit of a rhythm but the furthest she got was like five centimeters dilated which is about half way seventy percent efface met with the flattening of the survey anybody who gives a shit but i just wanna prove that ran up you know good for you yeah so i we not to mention the kid. It was sunny side up so he's <hes> he's not only he wasn't in the right position. He was he was head down and totally fine but he was is facing out the world. You know the optimal safe labor is like if he's facing your spine and then you can kind of okay so we are entire. Birthing plan was to avoid c-section at all costs because my wife has her own business. She's a floral designer. Which you know involves a little bit of physical labor so she was trying to get back on her feet as quickly as possible all but we couldn't avoid it. We ended up getting. We had to get a c section after twenty four hours of labor and i thought you know i'm i'm an ignorant idiot. I thought a c section was like unzipping a fanny pack and you just pull out your zipper backup and your fucking fine you high five the kid and you'd get sent home but you explain it to the people that don't know horrific. It is truly horrific and i was always like kind of pushing for it because i thought it was the safest thing i didn't want my wife to like take go through that much pain that that was one of the toughest parts of the whole experience was watching my wife really fucking agonize pain. I mean the the contraction contraction everything it all just like beating the piss adam right so then with the c section. I'm like great. She won't feel a thing. It'll be awesome but you know now. They put me in the they take her into the room and there's like five or six doctors. There's a ton of them in there which i didn't know i thought it was a one man operation and they put me in the scrubs outside and they're like make sure you have your phone ready like take some pictures and i'm like man things have changed in this society and i brought my headphones so i had one headphone for me one headphone for my wife. We had like a mixed play stuff that we're gonna listen to him. You know when the baby was born and but the they kind of they ramp up the epa daryl right like that's how they that's how they prep you so you don't feel anything in your feet or in your legs before it's like walking epidurals where you still have some mm sensation at that point you feel fucking nothing right but a lot of women react with like hardcore shivering to that but darryl so i'm i'm i get in. There are in my scrubs and i see the big tarp and everybody's prepping her. It's this big fucking multi person thing and get behind the thing and my wife is like hello another like convulsing. It wasn't shivers. It was fucking death's doorstep convulsing wow hardcore. I wasn't prepared for it but i'm i'm there as as the rock report so. I'm just like this is normal. This is how it's supposed to be. The you know the head chief or whatever that it she's behind us. She was indian. She was behind us and say you know like this is normal. Don't worry about it. It's totally fine but i'm i'm scared out of my mind. You know and i'm talking to my wife and you know trying to be like we've known each other since we were ten. How how crazy is this like. We met we met on the blacktop at our elementary school and now we're having a kid where procreating married this is such a wild experience and i'm trying to like you know just sweep her into the into the conversation as opposed to what's going on and as has i'm like reinforcing. Hey judas on in the background. We're both like donald bopping along celebrate tori celebrate tori fun upbeat songs right and chris. Oh my god and absolute bloodbath on the other side of things and she's like get your get your camera ready and they pulled down the blue tarp and it still has kind of a gallagher clear you know avoid the watermelon in and you know as pull it down. They seem it. You know they pull up my kid. My kid is fucking huge. He's eight pounds eleven ounces twenty to twenty inches long just like a four year old and he even had like you know even though he was he had a cone head and a bit of like markings on his face because is he was trying to push through your trying to make his way through but he couldn't do it and you know they brought him around to the table and they're telling me they're like aren't you can go see your kid and i'm like well. I've i've known her longer like. Can i make sure he's all right this guy just fucking god here and they're like we got her surgeries half over you know 'cause they basically just cut her open right and then they gotta do the rest of the story. Don't they take some of her. Shit out dude this. Is you get to see that so this is the fucked up. Sorry i didn't mean no. It's a great we question because i didn't know again i had no. We prepared for vaginal birth. This was not a part of our plan whatsoever you know so they told us that because he was like sunny any sign up and outward facing at his lips were at the incision so when they opened up his lips were just bucking fit yet literally doing like fish shapes and shit like that and they pulled them out. It's all this pressure and they're like you know my wife was like it felt like they were pulling like an eighty pound human out of my body while and so when they took me to see my son they go don't look anywhere pass the blue so they have like arrows taped arrows on the ground which they're like if nothing else just keep your head down do not look seriously so you so looked i saw i like i have point guard periphery so i yeah i could see you later. Okay yeah i can see a little out of the corner of my eye but then i over career <hes> overcorrected and just saw her like ninety pound placenta in a bowl bowl next to me. Have you seen the new season of stranger things so for those of you who have it looks like the coagulated humans that join together to become the monster unsturdy up it was like brain from ninja turtles like aircra- light it was just so gnarly and i'm like so ridiculous they bring me to my kid. I'm just it's so out of your body like i don't. I don't know if you felt fully present or if you were like in i was locked in and i was incredibly <hes> confused. Yeah credibly confused because you know my life was me and my wife and i we had a great existence that we still do. I should say had yeah i have i have an awesome white yeah but so it was just me and her and then also my kid pop sound like where the fuck did. Did you just come. That was my thought. I was so confused. I mean it was cool as hell and i was happy and i was crying and all that but also like i don't get this yeah. I'd get this like you're. You're a complete human. Being that just popped outta my wife right. I do come from no matter the preparation. I think it like it's still it's disassociate. Yeah i felt i felt completely outside of my body. Almost as if i was married a netting my you know what i mean so i was going through the motions as a human mm-hmm and being but i was like it felt like i was almost on a hallucinogen kind of seeing a movie my own life. Yes you know what i mean and so they're they're smearing the idress book in his face they give them. The ketamine shot vitamin k away and i'm just like holy shit. I just kept saying holy shit's just cursing in my kids faces thirty seconds role and i put my finger there. He grabs my finger. It's over from that point on you know. I'm just immediately in love with this kid. They pick them up. They bring them. They're like you wanna meet your your mommy. They bring them around and <hes> you know we walked. We walked around and in both of us hysterically crying. I have so many goddamn family issues that this is this is a big opportunity a big moment big opportunity to you know kinda reset some things in head off into a different direction than the dysfunction that i was brought up in right and all of this is kind of like unearthing. It's the bottom of a swamp like somebody is just like kinda. Eh like an alligator comes to the surface all of that stuff cifs to the top that has been just dormant for a hundred years. It's all circulating into my body and i'm just like oh my god. This is so overwhelming. My wife is crying. I'm crying delayed. Do you want to hold your kid. I've never held a kid the obviously that's young but but i i haven't held a kid probably less than a month old up until that point. I always waited like three or four months. Yeah right freaks out there fucking ratto ors. I i feel like i'm not retarded but i feel like i'm lenny from end so somebody gives me something. That's susceptible to damage. I might just snap it <music> out of instant i but you know they gave me the kid and i'm holding any just like opened. His eyes looked at me. You know he can't see shit obviously obviously but in my head and in my heart just like we are making a genuine human connection and his point and again it's over at that point. I'm just like your for it. Man right you're at you and my wife and i was in love with my wife before this on you know i'm coming off like a real pop here but like this really solidified defied everything our entire relationship right just how supportive we've been of each other even through this process and how you know how much i'm going to be there for her her and him for the rest of my life like that's it as much as i wanna make it in comedy be whatever i want to be. It's like it pales in comparison. Yeah you realize <hes> i mean i have a i had and have a great career but you're obviously well on your way but your your priorities get reeve reeve re re shifted. I guess you're i mean and it's like god damn it. This kid is way cooler than being you know a radio guy right right i mean i i still love doing this and podcast and all that something i switched goes off in your rain. You're like wait to some kind of switched. It just went on in my it might sol- yeah. It's the only way you can explain it. I mean the way the way i was talking to some of my friends even the ones that don't have have kids or anything like that when when he cries now or anything like that it like it lights my body up like like i hit i hit a jackpot at slots. You know what i mean it. Just it makes makes me feel this thing that i've never felt before in my entire life and it's just die. It's wild brewers said it perfectly. I've been friends with brewer forever and <hes> before i had kids kids is asking asking him about it and he goes. This is what happens. When you become a father you realize for the first time in your life that you could actually murder someone uh-huh. I'm mike i remember thinking that's fucked up then when i became a father mike ruhr holy fuck. You're right totally totally right because <hes> you know your laws. Aren't my laws anymore. No debut like if my kid is a killer yeah yeah. I got his back on the team. My son way more than anybody else on cheer emma get the high scoring when you see those stories in the news like where the mom helped her are saunas killed as personally get it you gotta get it. There's a story there's a story and this might sum up parenthood perfectly. Is this kid chris porco. Oh from albany years ago he went to high school with my buddy andrew. I met him at genesee al and <hes> he took his yellow jeep wrangler from school in upstate. New york drove it through every fucking you know easy pass tag thing possible home and killed both of his parents with an axe right ah just to like collect on their fucking life insurance however he ended up not killing his mother she was just on the brink of death like wound axe wounds across her face and in china and just angry all yes super fear and also probably psychotic ill and she you know what as she's like slipping into the coma before she before they thought she was going to die. She said it was him she said because she was like hallucinating up and like you know issues or whatever and then when she came to and lived should they asked her who did it and she would not implicate oh my god and and the only reason why i feel comfortable talking about this because it was a nationwide story time made a fucking movie about it the chris porco story me and my buddies every time you see a yellow g._p. Chop each each other the shell they're going to ask you to go to jail. Y'all yeah yeah. I think he's in jail for the rest of okay all right. That's that's one of my biggest. Fears here is that there are people out there that actually give birth to their killer yeah yeah yeah i mean i may have been you know what if i get killed by anyone in might as well be my right. I would be pissed if it wasn't so yeah. I mean the kid pops out and you're like my thought was i ah pretty spiritual these days but you're like where i wow. I don't know shit yo yeah. I'm like i don't know shit. I thought i knew a lot. I i just give up. I now have faith in all sorts of all sorts of crap because the miracle of of life is just insane right and then you also realize is that the women are way stronger than the male species. It's crazy. I don't know why they don't like revolt and rise up and go. Hey assholes y'all well. No we're stronger than you right could give birth to a kid not even close i mean i i was talking about that with my wife and her family where you know at base-level like just how humanity has developed over thou- thousands millions whatever years it's been. I can't believe at base level as an animal. We decided men were in charge yeah because it's just like when you see that when you watch it happen and you realize that the fate of our species lies in their hands it only makes sense sense that they would have a greater say things. I'm not high right now. But you wanna go deep yeah all right so i think all along that the women were way stronger than men okay and member like fuck this and the jealousy got the best of them yeah and that's why we have muscles. I'm just gonna latino lift with tree trunks bigger and stronger so i can control the women yeah i mean that's not bad like we're almost like spiritually everybody as <hes> every guy as a small dick. We're like we're like the guy who had a small dick that or the italian guy that has like five three that is just absolutely juice out of his mind jack and that that was for whatever i feel like that's how we've become in terms of like strength that like how we impose our will on people i my wife gets mad man when i talk about this so i mean i'll be careful press thirty ahead. I thought you know i gotta big dick yeah you. You know but you realize after you see your wife. Give birth to a half. My dick does that do that. Are you. Serious areas are you dick doesn't turn her vagina into an anaconda mouth. Walk yeah i was. I was talking about the miracle of birth and you know when when i had my two kids and my wife didn't see it the same way i'm like mail. You should see what what happens to the vagina. Oh my favorite. I've run into a few people. You know when you when you sign up for dueling you get to meet the other people that are and they're not take typically as reasonable or down to earth as i am a lot of them are real spiritual out flighty euros and like a women will just kind of give you information in that you're not looking for some were this one lady who was like i came so much harder from the birth of my son than i ever have from my husband. Yeah i don't know what to do with that. They don't tell us that the classes i'm gonna march home and asked my wife she if she oh god that's kind of weird. I just stopped myself. It was fun for second then on my view detachment. No it's too so when my son was born. They took literally ten feet away to get his footprints all the stuff. You just explained and my wife. It was really fascinating because she's like go with him. She hannah king he was only ten feet away and now my son's nine and now you know that ten feet a lot a lot the greater distance but i remember that like it happened yesterday. She panicked and beth our our brand. New son was ten feet ninety. Maybe not even eight feet literally in the next room under the heaters right. You know man. I mean i you know i think there's a certain age and i'm not i'm not entirely sure what it is but the kid until a certain age age still believes that he's part of his mother's body like it yes so they developed still thinking they are one person with their mother really even though they're talking with their mother. That's still what they what they believe but i wonder if that's the same subconsciously maybe because intellectually they could probably separate it but subconsciously curious. Women somehow have that exact same feeling. Oh that's interesting. I gotta ask her now. Yeah i'll have an answer on a future episode. It sounds like it is are. You guys gonna have another kid. I don't know i i mean i don't know my my wife in the middle of it and i think this is pretty common. She was like i'm never doing this again. Kid in the middle of labor was like i cannot possibly possibly see myself enduring this again yeah but you know she won't my my mom had six kids while five birth six kids but i mean but they knocked her the fuck out so like i i mean i tell the story like my mom couldn't handle pain so they knocked her out so you know they put me on her. Her belly and i'm like crawling up to suck on a boo. She's just out. Call started just started as a mini. The funny thing is so i have a daughter to <hes> i. She's gonna be seven very soon. Wow that's unbelievable to even say out loud loud and we're we're at at the doctor's office and we're finding out too sexy the kid and they do the thing right and i thought i saw dick so i i know what it is <music> all cocky and stuff right and all sudden. I'm like here comes. They're gonna have another son and i was sort of relieved. Which is this is my wife. My wife raises my daughter and certainly my son to be strong and to raise my son to be respectful toward women and all that but also raise my daughter to be very you know strong and and her own person but i'm a guy guy so i'm like oh i three. I breathed a sigh of relief and i'm like okay. I got another guy. I you don't have to deal with because i know what guys are capable mean for sure and all of a sudden the the doctor goes so you're going to have a girl i went there. Were looked at me like my whole body was even though you know we still still had a few months left in this pregnancy. My first thought was that first guy coming to my house to date my daughter right instantly. That's yeah i mean my my wife's like she's helped me since then like a- yeah that's going to happen and guess what yet girls enjoy sex to write. What what an uncomfortable shit yeah you know it's. It's a better place now but i i i'll hold known. Did you have a sister or anything like that. Did you. Rub your sisters. Yeah i mean that that for me is kind of prepared me a little bit for having a daughter which you know my my sisters and i have a fantastic relationship and i think it's because of all the familial chaos we became super close and communicative and honest with each other to wear like you know i actually would love to have a daughter. I you know i i could see myself raising a good one and being completely fine with it but years ago for sure that would have been my react yeah of course yeah thank you yeah yeah. Can i think it's a natural reaction. If your guy i think so yeah you know and i mean i'm older than you and we do. Come from a time where you know women weren't as equal honest and as strong as they are now. Thank god so you know. It is a different world. I mean even my kid. He's a white male. I'm hoping he's gay future and he's a the big boys so he would just crush action. Absolute dominated gas in brooklyn. I mean that's one of my you know reliefs. If one of my kids is gay i'd give and i but i thank god that you know the time to change. Oh yeah thank god they are pretty much doesn't matter anymore especially if you live in new york city yeah people listening to this podcast in all sorts of backwoods and they like flock when a new york man. We don't give a fuck about any of that now. Why would you know that to me is silly. Even if it's religious based right right yeah so actually especially so. How has your life changed since <hes> <hes> the birth of your son. How how old is he now. He's only two weeks. He's a week he's eight. Days is a day yesterday so much for doing this. Of course i saw pictures of you in in the hospital sleeping still maybe i should wait now. I really thought you'd have a great take on this. You didn't disappoint. I just i love freshly talking about because you know i i pride myself on growing a little bit and i i never wanna stop growing. I think that's where my father failed is that he reached a certain level of maturity and spiritual awareness or just ability to kind of you know we widen his container. Yeah and i don't wanna hit that level. I want to continue to kind of be malleable and and just you know take on whatever i can take on but it's it's made me emotional as fuck. I think that's i feel like i'm going through menopause. It's it's hot and cold. Say happy <hes> when i got home i felt like i was going to throw up. We brought him home. I was just like this. This is so overwhelming. I was physically sick. How about this so you're in the hospital. What were you in for two days three because she she ended up okay. My wife is is this <hes> the c section that keep you the longer but we had to do another procedure because she got the epidurals and some fucking cold a cold war russian gave the initial shot and he fucked up he was like a student so they gave her a second one and apparently like leaked a bit of fluid into her body and it was giving her siri like searing headaches the that happened to my sister-in-law no share yeah. That's pretty common yeah. How 'bout how 'bout you do a doctor does that it's it's a practice it use a pig or something like a tattoo artist. If this shot is going to make your wife's body completely useless then no no the doctor should be doing this right right and close to a thing that could make her not be able to walk forever yeah yeah of course you know what i'm saying. She had a blood patch which was basically the whole they had to basically give her an another epidurals but they took blood from another area of her body and then injected into the problem zone and it basically clotted added around the leak all so it was like hogging a submarine hole with a piece of gum right. You crazy okay now. She's totally okay yeah but honestly it worked instantly simply the headaches and she's recovering really nicely well. I i've talked about this in the past to <hes> you realize what they really have out there. When you have a a serious headache so i'm allergic to pretty much everything okay aw and i don't know what it is but one time i ate something and it looked like i was in a <hes> in a fight like like i was fighting for the championship ship. I could barely see out of my eyes and everything was closing fast fast. My throat was closing fast and a whole read this headache worse headache of my life and i called my brother who lives really close to my dude. You gotta get to the hospital immediately and i was gonna take aspirin. Just go back to bed right. I found out later. I don't know how true this is but i remember it this way. They basically said at the hospital. If i were to take an aspirin for whatever reason it would killed children. No she's allergic reaction. I was having maybe someone could explain that to fund anyway so i go to the hospital and they well. They didn't rush wash me to the back. Even though i can't i can't see i could do this with my fingers to open my eyes so i could sorta say they made me fill out all the paperwork dude d- can't we could do this later. Yeah i promise right. I'll write when i'm ten. Don't worry. I'm good for the good for the bills. Almost wanna say you wanna see my the good old days when i didn't worry about money not so much now but anyway they take take me to the back my brother's there and i'm like i this headache. I can't handle anymore. They they do an i._v. That headache will be gone in seconds. I'm like yeah. I'm thinking myself yeah right. They put something in that i._v. And like when away instantly. I'm like wait. This is available to people yeah michael jackson appropriate yeah and then and then they they i guess it was some kind of <hes> something like benadryl or whatever for the allergy they put something in the i._v. Ah love talking about this. I mentioned a lot and bear with me if you've heard this before but i'm telling you the the listeners obviously all of a sudden they put something in the i._v. Be my brother goes greg holy shit. I'm watching your face. Go back to normal in real time like all senators like and i feel my eyes opening backup. Oh and i was out of the hospital within an hour. Totally fine holy shit but it's back to your point where they have this shit makes stuff goes similar. The thing happened to me. I fourth grade when i moved to rockland county from <hes> fort montgomery right outside of west point i i we moved in. I climbed a tree and i got stung by nashville of hornet two hundred bytes all over my body minimum like all over so my face again prizefighter like the guy in the rock at the beginning. Eh chemical explodes shit. That's what my face looks like and similarly they put me on some sort of drip and slowly but surely it reshaped and came back to form but like it's crazy what they're capable of doing hidden and not to mention the millions of people that had to die to just figure it almost <hes> you almost died like macaulay culkin. What was the name of that movie. My girl what the okay yeah macaulay culkin has great careers in bach in the home alone movies always just as fun little goofy kid next thing. You know like oh my god. That is a sad movie fucking. What's dan ackroyd movie and i'm like dan ackroyd right before his i believe in hardcore in alien designing vodka wait. He's into aliens. Oh he's real into it. Yeah i wanna. I talked to him about it so bad. He's like he's hard core. I got assigned bottle of his vodka. Does the skull got the skull with dan aykroyd signature. That's fucking awesome. What does he believe as far as aliens go. I really don't know i just i've heard a couple of interviews where he's like been. You know he's like tom. Delay for blink one eighty two like he's that serious and gung ho about <music> out. I don't know if he's started as many projects. Tom delong who apparently all of his things where he's talked to high level generals and not false. He's been right the time yeah. Where are you at all that stuff. I'm totally in dalians so am i yeah for sure i. I think there's so much fucking life in the universe reverse would blow your mind but everything is so far apart from everything that sadly in our lifetime we probably won't you know won't know maybe maybe well. You're younger than me. You might you might make but here's so here's where i'm at such a such a like. I like carl sagan quite a bit and one of his things was that he believed dalians are present like they're here with us now. Our meat vessels are incapable of perceiving them so they they exist on a whole different dimension and they're probably ably sitting on this fucking barrels just listening to this podcast listening to these two fruits. Do we gotta get high together next. I haven't smoked weed and a week either. I believe all that because we're looking for aliens that kinda look like awesome this but i believe there's planets out there were dinosaurs yeah yeah and <hes> humans like the level where on but then humans that are way more advanced because they've been living longer and then <hes> human center way last i. I believe that whole spectrum is out there. In the universe. I is well and especially like if you you know the the universe is infinite right so time is is it. Time is a human construct. Yes in the past president. Future is happening simultaneously so all of this stuff. I actually think that there is a future where sex doesn't even exist austin where they just removed it from the equation and so we can continue to advance spiegel yet. People don't understand that that time is as far as the universe goes. There is no time humans invented that would locks and all that horse shit that there was no time not at all yeah. We're living in eternity right now. Yeah it's pretty weird. I think it's awesome. I do a lot of spiritual stuff. Now i listen to oprah winfrey super bowl sunday. Oh yeah i wanna told told me i've never heard of it. It's great at car toll a._a. And <hes> you know seat of the soul with gary zouk zouk off yeah so i you gotta listen to as a pod. Have you ever listened joe. Campbell joseph cambell ja rule's stuff. He he wrote was back in like the forties fifties fifties yeah i like. I like graham hancock to know him. He's been on rogan a few times he he talks about like kind of spiritual sites now like beckley tepi the places that like they're they're as advanced technology but differently so it's just in harmony with us as humans where like you know they say you could stick your head in between two stones stones that are positioned at a perfect mathematical equations and your consciousness shoots out to fucking pluto weird love that you know i live at. I live at the beach all summer. <hes> like i can get marijuana. They say this but i'm wearing shoes and it's really feels uncomfortable. Goes can unkind. I'll go a month without wearing any type of shoes but you know out there. You know because new york city. You don't really get to see the stars. Dare you like what dov you've totally. You're trying to tell me there's no life out there. Are you insane and this is only what i can see with my naked eye and it goes way beyond that especially the beach where there's no interference whatsoever. I've gotten also good at unfocused eyes and being able to re harness mushroom visuals. What yeah yeah so i can like. I've i've learned how to increase visuals as i'm tripping like see a little bit more it helps with weed as well but i can now do it sober and see some of the trails and the <hes> sacred geometry and all that comes your way past me. That's awesome. Do the microdosing i. I haven't awhile but i used to. I did it for like a month straight. It helped my depression for sure. Yeah i remember we talked about it on the radio. Show yeah what i want to try i would i would. I mean it's cool man. It doesn't make you high or anything like that. It's super safe to do even around your family. You know you're not like they notice them on it. No no you won't even really i notice you're on it. You'll just kind of like feel not like killing laugh because it's true minute thing though is i. I think we even got history wrong on earth. Oh please. I was written by the winners but i think i think we have cycled through life way. More than people realize on this planet and i really do because my my whole theory is why are we the only intelligent species and and what's the second most intelligent thing on earth. Why is there such a dramatic gap yeah and rest. The nature is not dramatic out of caps like that yeah no one no one thinks about this. They just assumed i saw you know. I don't know what they would say. They don't even care they don't even think on this level but to me on my that's pretty fucked up or is the gap even as substantial as we're told it is because apparently dolphins have a very similar ability. You know reason reason to you know they rape right but you know they very sexual. Yeah they think on our level in their pigs pigs also they're like really in pixar sir incredibly intelligent yeah yeah i saw i saw a pig video on that one of those guys but i saw video that made the rounds on twitter. Unfortunately i have <hes> why am i saying this. We had such a good time just like lobsters there. They put them in boiling water and i'm like wow it's tough shit shit but as far as human beings i i i don't think too many more times than people are willing to admit oh for sure and i really feel like we're not from this planet silly. Is that apple's that yeah i <hes> i told my mom so when i was like seven or i i may have mentioned this on the show before but i'm not sure i <hes> when i was like seven or eight i got super into <hes> kicked out a c._c._d. Good for you. I like drew. Dix on the i got. I was into religion. I just wasn't into the strict portion that they were pushing so i immediately measure into <hes> spirituality exactly 'cause his religion started as spirituality and then we had a defining yeah and then that apple is a man yeah and it's been a problem since this people just you know god was everywhere everywhere and love is everywhere and all that and then we were like well yeah but we need to build a building and we need this and that's where he wasn't a bearded lifeguard that cared aired which whole you fuck but he's not he doesn't have blonde hair and blue eyes. You idiot sub is i ah now we're gonna shut up. Stop myself dude. I gotta stop myself because there's there's some racist people out there that they're they're jesus is blond hair blue eyes and i'm like idiots does way he wasn't a middle eastern all we you know and i look at these people like and you hate eight middle eastern around that yeah i mean you know i'm not going to agree with a lot of people but i'd like you to come out and pay for my show but yeah i mean i told my mom i like i heard the concept somehow of reincarnation and i became obsessed with my mom because she grew up in a stringent like a strict richt irish catholic household she went to school. She got the shit kicked out of her by nuns. She wanted to give me a lot of options and teach me about a lot of stuff so she got me. You know buddhism awesome coloring books and all this kind of stuff to like really pique my curiosity and then when i was ten i learned about the civil rights movement in school and i had such a visceral emotional national reaction to it that i came home and i told my mom it's because i was martin luther king junior reincarnate. She was like you know of course horrified horrified at like oh wow okay. This is what your son results in. I want to believe in reincarnation but <hes> a little breath a little selfish and love my life and what scares me about reincarnation. Is i come back as something else that i don't wanna be at. Least you have the no memory but that's okay. That'll have unless you go to some votive. Lady in new orleans arneses what you were in the past and i mean you're you know a successful stand up comic and now now magin. You're reincarnated now. You're i don't want to mention anything because i'm going to piss people off but something terrible and that's what scares me your coordinates yeah. Ah you know what i probably deserved part of my point where it's like. I know it's offensive to say the greatest civil rights leader of all time came back as a white upper middle class ten year old boy. That's what if you believe in reincarnation than you believe in karma so he earned it up and you know when you when you do those dna tests everyone's everyone's related to someone really famous from the past show. It's like horse shit. How's your <hes>. How's your dad with being a grandfather and all that he's not arrived and told them i'm about it. I mean he knows but he hasn't met him and i haven't spoken to him. It's a it's a whole long thing where some shit he just is consistently disappointing in every facet of being a father and i think that <hes> for whatever reason is a good thing for me because i'm gonna be you effectively communicate with my son and the feelings i have for him already. Make me even more confused as to how my relationship with my dad got to this point but all it does is like make me kind of block out what's not important which is that and just focus all of my positive energy into this kid. I got i got week when i became a father. I called my mom for the first time in a few years and to be honest. I had a moment and my dad wasn't around to see this and all that stuff is you kalma but now i'm back to not seeing or and i got my walls up and my you now my boundaries and all that so i find nothing wrong with that now. We're different people but i i do have to tell you this because you're my friend as your kid gets older yeah. You're gonna get mad yeah not at your kid. You're going to get mad at the fact like how could anyone treat. This kid badly adly yeah. Oh i'm already there you are. I'm already there yeah the moment i saw him and the flood of emotions that okay i <hes> it. I snapped done a security guard the night my kid was born. I mean she also was yelling at my sisters and i three of us in the hallway at two a._m. At mount sinai west the only only people out there crying and laughing and celebrating. She's like being a fire hazard and showed up your whole fucking freaked out but i i was like oh yeah. I have that feeling you know. It's it's it's as palpable is love with with my kids. You know they'll they'll do kid things and i'm their parent and i got to discipline them and stuff but then i get triggered because i remember being a kid i remember being nine at this point and how my mom handled. Thanks so now i look at my son and i can't even imagine doing to him. My mom did to me right right so i get these little triggers every once in a while. We're almost like start shaking a little bit like and i almost want to tell them. Why did we just listen to me. Do you understand what would have happened to me if i did what you're doing right now so just be not aware of. That sounds like you already. I can't wait to have those conversations with them on a level playing field where you know i inform him of our past most of the you know genetic stock that we come from because i wasn't aware that we had a long line of mental illness in my family. I wasn't aware that a lot of the men in my family were super abusive and depressed and didn't know how to like even acknowledged. They're feeling so. I felt like i was a fucking psychopath when i started going through those things yeah but you know food from learning from that and hearing about my history my family's history and then you know facing it head on myself. It makes me excited to break that chain. You know what i mean to to just be like hey. This is our honest thing. It's like not just saying addiction runs in our in our family. Don't you dare drink. That's not it. It's hey this is what this is what our family has been through. These are the type of people that <hes> that spawned they are good people at their core but they had an absolute inability to focus focused or deal with their emotion and their the abuses of themselves now. That's great awareness mike cannon so. How do you get to to that place because you probably could help some people out there because there's a lot of people that they do exactly what their parents did to them. Yeah my whole thing is me and my wife yoga by but it is the truth. I'm mike love. We're gonna fuck up our kids yeah. There's no doubt about it. They're going to therapy someday and the world will and the world will yeah. My whole goal is really lee simple fucked them up in new yeah. That's it yeah yeah yeah. I'm going to try my best yeah. I'd really want to be a a good parent. I think i am but in the end even if you do a great job you're gonna you know something is going to go wrong but i don't want to do the same shit that happened to me. That's my whole goal yeah and that's a it's a scary thing because even even with my awareness i could still subconsciously fall into that trap right so it's it's a constant checking of myself. It's me you know being like. Where does this come from. Why am i feeling this way. If i get angry snap like on a on a snap i'm taking a break for a second like and not reacting how i would normally because i just want to figure it out before i react in the classic canon wet yeah yeah you know what i mean so it is a constant internal audit. I'm not saying i'm going to be perfect. I know for a fact. I'm gonna fuck up but the best possible thing that i can do is be as honest and communicative initiative as possible because that's the only way it can get better yeah you know. I don't know if you can beat genetics but i'm gonna fuck dry. I think you're take your all right all right. I think you all right well. This was a great conversation <music>. I is is man. I i know you've got spots to do and i said this off mike. I want to say it on mike. I don't listen to podcasts. I said this about just cursing. She started started and we finally mad and she did my podcast and we we became instant friends. Yeah and i really like podcast because she's doing a different and i gotta say the same thing <hes> about you like when when i have someone like you on the show i go back and listen to some episodes you know because i don't listen to podcasts in general i. I really like what you're doing. Oh man irish goodbyes really thanks so. I love how you ended by the way i'm like wait. Where did they go popeye hands on my fucking brilliant that me that means the world to me dude. I've been listening to you since i was a fucking kid so it's it's still surreal that we couldn't say they like a teenager or teenagers or so. The the podcast is the irish goodbye. It's really i think i'm gonna listen to more episodes so even though you know i i listened to prepare appreciate it. I told the whole story on <hes> episode. That's coming out this monday. It'll be the most recent wow nice and i cry a couple of times during this is this is a little more rehearse gathered. This was like this days ago and i was just a whimpering mess. I'm not gonna lie to you. Win ended up when i became a father might get him on the podcast immediately. He'll cry this is me with my thoughts collected and and one other thing and then we can wrap are are they trying to remove you from your podcast for being offensive. What's the story there for me. Yeah no no. I mean my old one that conspiracy spiracy one. They tried to get me. Oh okay yeah well. You want it off that podcast. I was actually i reposted the post because i was like please uh-huh signed this fucking. Gladly get the hell out of this show. Did you see the flatter documentary yeah the fucking mike. My ex co host was in it was he. He didn't have a big part but dave weiss he he has a podcast called the flatter podcast. I don't listen to it but read the comments the reviews it's very fun but you they basically rehash how everybody that thinks earth is around as a retard but he i i it's great i i wasn't gonna go conspiracy banal i second the people that i believe that the earth is flat today actually believe or do they want to belong to something and this is their way of belonging to a group. I think it's a bit of both certainly some people but then i feel like the majority of the people that believe that really just wanna be decks yeah and want to be part of something and they know you know when they go to sleep at night that it's all all bullshit was a red sox fan for a year because my all my buddies were yankee vince and i didn't care about baseball so all i wanted to do was piss them off and just be and just be a dick yeah so i i then like actually started liking the red sox because it was fun to be part of that to annoy my friend nice so yeah yeah i think i think it's like a similar you know and a lot of people are looking for community. It's the same as religion right. I have four football teams. Yeah well three actually three therefore i forget now well they try to they. Try to throw miami in their my my father who's actually a hardcore philly guy. He loves the dolphins over the eagles crazy but but i it drives people not so when i drive people not lava yeah so you know born and raised on long island. Some jets fan yeah. I i did a lot of radio west genesee. Oh i've lived in rochester did radio and then i lived in buffalo so yes. I was a bills fan. How could i not be see that turned me against the bills being at genesee really where the actually only team that i can plays a new york like new york jerseys more new york than this fucking blythe so then i became a bills fan jets fan pills fan and i went to all the jets bills games. I was really confused. I didn't know i got a little weird and then i lived in boston during couple. They're super deals with <hes> with bill parcells and <hes> what's his name before brady who was quarterback before brady not blood center but so thank you so because my boss nears. I'm kind of a patriots fan. People think i'm just bullshitting making this up to be addicted. Ah i really am a jets bills patriots fan and then they try to add the dolphins because of my father in law and my brother laws both they all like the dolphins but it could relate to be an addict but in this case it's the truth yeah one other thing so you almost got robbed by magicians jordan he ever heard that story that we to wrap up with this so i went to perform you know in the middle east and one of our first nights we were out. We went out to get some food in a was it is is that a book with no a buddhist bali <hes> amman right yeah yeah amman jordan which is their capital and we went to eat and gary v dr hilarious stand stand up comedian got surrounded by like eleven street magicians all dressed like aladdin like in zero irony whatsoever and they're like doing doing sleight of hand trickery so we just assumed they were running his pockets and we get there and they're just the most enthusiastic legitimate magicians we've ever met. They really wanted to entertain some americans endearing and you're paranoid. It literally kept my hand in my pocket and then afterwards afterwards. I gave them like four million in their money. Go those great anything you want to promote their mike cannon <hes> for dates. Just go to mike cannon comedy ready dot com all over the road i'm doing d._c. Philly oh if this is out by the twenty fifth of august but of course how awesome portland maine that's a big one. I'll be at a empire theatre. It's a door deal so please don't make me lose my shirt. Come out to that the twenty fifth again tickets at mike cannon comedy dot com. I got philly d._c. Chicago all coming up yeah. It's gonna be great. It's been great to watch your career from afar thank you. I i kind of watch from afar but i see you moving up and it's awesome to see you appreciate really entertaining and you're a good conversationalist least thank you. Can you tell me what pot smoking and all right. I think we're done man. I wanna thank matt in the gang here. Get yeah part for having us. Ed cool join the best. Yes superfund but you didn't drink or anything but maybe next time who knows i might you know this might not last forever. I'll really already like i said it's all open. If you i mean you haven't drank in seven or eight months but you still doing pot and then you're probably probably dip in insurance and all that i haven't. I feel like i'm good yeah. Alcohol is evil men really is it's fucking evil and my it doesn't work as good a really yeah. That's the first too young for that shit on no. That's why boozers the double my dick and tongue lazy i mean i i'll get political for one more second here but i mean we live in a society where i mean. We're finally getting there with marijuana. It's going to be you know legal everywhere within a mere couple blazers but to wait this long to have marijuana illegal and alcohol league. It's just it's garbage. They just can't they just got to get the whole business model ready before they unleash it of course so they can take alcohol should have been the thing that was illegal and while we saw what happened with that well yeah babylon. Thank you so much. Thank you matt in the gang gephardt's. Thanks to mike sappho it old friends stop by your fucking say hi on my podcast you son of a bit it i shall remain nameless. He's why i don't know yeah i i used to work with this guy at another company and we're still friends and i'm bleeding from something right. I got to figure out why bleeding guys thank you so much for listening to the opium. Radio podcasts hope you enjoyed it. Join the facebook group opie radio fans. I believe yvonne facebook and instagram opie radio twitter opie radio. You wanna promote a instagram or twitter at my cannon all right cool. I need a band mandate. That's for listening. Thank you very much for avenue.

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