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Army bob thanks for having me taking the bearskin rug tonight. I'm not leaving. This is the best day ever. Wow is the most positive things ever come at him. And his entire life holy cow. Somebody better check him. i think he's i think he's got covid. He's going crazy. That second wedding day pales in. Comparison is definitely better. That i won so i had an uncle that got captured. Vietnam put tiger cage. He had a better time than universal. So well this isn't good whiskey. Here bob thank you. Brent are members of the mafia the bourbon mafias a nonprofit organization with composed of bourbon those es and industry professionals representations in eight states and two continents are members combine eleven bourbon with a passion for charitable work. The group uses their web of our native spirit to raise money for local and national charities through rare bottle auctions and other themed events education demand in alabama. Still now we did mafia you have you have we. 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And we are on the range today of Well it's a mix and mash of some. Really amazingly good whiskeys. These are all barley spirits. These are these are not your bourbons. These are these are in the vein of scotch and not all from scotland. A why did these are new. Releases into the market has taped carbon foll- releases like we do with the fall bourbon ratio but most of these These are our new releases of products. So we have first off Nica days from the distillery In japan we've got a power. John nirvana from our friends over and go india from glenmorangie. We have a tale of cake from ball vinnie. We have the ton fifteen o nine batch number seven and from guada- knock. We have the kingsman edition nineteen eighty-nine vintage and from our bag. We have the trayvon batch number two nineteen year old. And the art. Beg we beastie. So brent is saying thank you are excited branches dead. I love this now. This is my day. You're trying to get into that one. Nothing as martin luther. So we're going to have justin. Tell us all about our sips ratings. So this is not going to be good. I mean sean connery passed away recently. And you're having justin to the surroundings. It's not gonna be good now probably not but are not doing it as sean connery. Thank god he's doing it as lucky the leprechaun. I'm anxious he's gonna hide are covers me. Oh my god okay. Let's do this ratings. You sure yeah. We got nothing to lose. Go ahead. justin taken away one sip. Give me a glass of water to wash out me. Mouth to scotland to sips numerous but Lcd i've gone his almost to the action there. Three sips Interesting but with this again. No sorry does not buying ninety for sips. Let's keep the secret to ourselves. Permian other charms. Sean resurrect him because he made up something. Yeah five sips was unaware anything could be this. Good sorry shawn can't die twice from that so the first time in a couple of days. I'm ashley happy that he has gone because he didn't have to hear that word. Have mercy well moving on so. We've got a pretty packed schedule. A whiskey is here with seven. So we're going to get right into it and we're gonna have harmed else matter first. Whiskey thank you. bob are first. Whisky comes from the nika distilling company in japan. Nica as eighty proof non age statement. The newest release from the famous japanese house. New days was designed as a daily drinker. That highlights the bright side of whiskey. The blend is structured by the mellow and smooth coffee grain. Whisky and the air. Matic non mia geeky malts along with a touch of coffee malt whisky and the malt which has a hint of p it to enhance the bright sweetness with enrich body and the the packaging. I don't know if we have the ball around here it's beautiful. It's just a sunshiny package. Got this bright. Yellow top clear label at the whisky is a bright sunshiny gold and the day. We got this whiskey in the store. I had to take a picture of it for the instagram account. For follow us on history is dot com slash bears. Anyway and it's it looks promising and it really is just as promising as that looks. It's fresh and fruity and floral and tons of us. Citrus and pears. I think you smell the interest than it comes out. Just pairs airs and just a gorgeous floral note. I cannot get enough of this thing. It's light and then the pallet limited chu lai. It's dances on the tongue. You can taste the cereal you can taste those coffee those coffee notes in the back but mostly it's the grain whisky the sweetness the front tons of annella tons of pears. They they say that. There's going to be here. But i really don't get much peeve dots. It's at that finish the very end. It's light it's a wonderful drink. Mix some high balls with this could drink it all day long. Put a big old. Those nice big Those round ice balls one of the one of those big brown balls and just pour this on their bob. What do you want. Think about just a nice spring day. I mean this remind you a walking through a nice field of flowers on a beautiful spring day with blue sky. And it's just it's so bright so well put together and so refreshing. It's absolutely love this. I generally don't go in for blended whiskey but this is one that i would drink definitely. Well it's it's not blended whisky per se. I mean it's there you've got you've got the coffee grain. We so it's the coffee refers to still. Yeah so it's it's a grain whisky anamolous but it's not a blended whisky awake. We think where you're taking whiskey from various other distillers various other entities and blending together. These are all hosted hundai crane you can do so grain and malt is still blended with split. It's they've done such an amazing job blending this it's all from nica so it's a single is just they're they're tasting notes just so on white flowers. Orange blossoms pear citrus. But now that the same notes. Before i read. There's that that. I had the first time i tasted a couple of months ago when it came out. This is i mean. I opened the first the first that this came reopen. This is and this is. This is a perfect whiskey to give to somebody. Who's new to my whiskey. Because if you don't like this you're hopeless. That's one thing is that this is different thing. People don't like it but this is not. This is not a scotch though bourbon. Which is your wheelhouse right. But i mean this is you know. They have the as fresh and fruity with flowers. Florals and yeah the serial notes that come through on the palate and stuff. So it's like almost like a like a fruity cheerios. With the a little bit of smoke on it but not. i don't no no very very. i don't smoke. I've got a little bit of a hint of it in the On the nose you know. But it's very pleasant. I mean it's the bottle. Presentation is nice. Bright yellow And it's beautiful. This is actually really nice to drink. And i don't know that would make a good cocktail. I think it would make more of a drinking a straight. Like on the yeah justin. Would you think i would porta this semi lucky charms very very good. Luck terms of melon approachable. Didn't think about the mound. But i think you're right mountains there. Yeah there's definitely there's definitely a. Musk melon note to this. On top of the citrusy they sort of sort of blend been sort of on the top note on the top of power but no lucky charms. But what else by. I got lucky charms. But that's okay. I was very very pleasant really. Was you know we can dress him up. Can't take him out getting into japan for nica days forceps well-done hey and we're back and we just finished discussing the new release nica. Nica days gave that forceps fantastic whiskey. Grab one if you find one on the shelf. And we're moving onto our next. We're gonna have Brent toss about that one thanks by this next. One is paul john nirvana. It's eighty proof for this forty percent. Ab it's not age stated but people say it's about three years it's ex bourbon casks second and third phil We have reviewed quite a few of the whiskey from paul john over the years. This is is located on the coast of goa. India has been studying the whiskey world on fire since their first release. I mean they put a lot of good stuff. It's one of these ones that i'm ceo. We're going to be tasting paul john. I'm like always looking forward to it. So this newest released from paul. John is called nirvana was created to answer the call for mixologist for a more affordable entry for use in the bar. And i'm gonna go back to that in a bit after the tasting notes and stuff but The color of this is a very light. Light yellow nets From second and third phil casks. You're not going to get a lot of color out of it and that shows on this This nice Get some nice caramel and bourbon. Notes on a little bit of a little bit of a fruitfulness to it on the nose and the palate just very light very subtle little bit of The small feel of like honey honey. Mafia and stuff. It's just beautiful. It's my soft and sweet and founded connecticut over last five minutes. Yeah some you get some nice vanilla out of. That's that's taken away from bourbon barrels that come out in this and it's beautiful. It's just a nice refreshing light news as we mentioned in the last one. That was refreshing. One well this one is different a whole different pal. But i don't know why they would think this bs for a mixture. Because i don't i think anything that they mix it with. I was talking earlier that it would probably overpower this whiskey. You know i think of. You're mixing it unless you mix it with like you know like a soda or something. It's a heavier style than the necas days in that you've got more of that serial note to it. This is like at first. I thought oatmeal my smelling fresh oatmeal. Like not before you cook it and this is barley green. This is this is just a an we talked about before. If you listen to our john all shows they use a six row barley rather than to robotic they use in scotland which gives it a more citrus zest to the nose but this is more like a raw barley. It's very nice you know. But that's why. I say that that would mix while but you don't want you don't think we need. We need to make some cocktails tonight. Well no but. I think it would be fine just like it is i mean why would you wanna. I think unless you unless you're putting it with the mixing in like a soda. I think you're going to overpower the flavors of this case. I think this this coming from goa. India south india on the indian ocean. Fricken hot dude. So you're you drink in this on the dribble to the pool. This is one part whiskey. Four parts club soda with ice. Yeah this is deidra anchor by the pool or by the ocean. Yeah i feel that you know so nice mellow someone that doesn't overpower it. One dash bidders. They don't even need that. You're not mixing dr pepper dead. Maybe maybe a club soda and a little bit dash high ball. But yeah. it's the nika days neat. But this i would put all this but i think it's to what you can use it for as far as what the mixologist their love. Those guys are making some nice fancy drinks stuff that you give it to. Yeah well. I guess that's why they made it see what can happen with it dressing. I agree with brent. I would love to see. What a good mixologist could do this. That's what i said. He said mix can do anything. I challenge brennan. Brent denies them. I appreciate the recap and you're tasting note. Justin got pears and apples on the nose Along with the caramel bourbon. Not serial that that stock up to me. you know. there's something in there. But i don't really know if i would classify it as cereal out. Give him more pair near dad and on the pal is like nice sweet. I probably mix this with something Like hot sauce as part of it. What else what say spice man. There's like five hundred spicy. Us hundred saying if i was gonna make a drink with this it'd be like some kind of like a hobby neuro- base home. How call what was that. Sound factor in here on. Performs make it. Y'all blow your mind. Lord have mercy lovely way refreshing Very sweet but with a little bit of a saw salty edge to it really well made. I think this will be a big seller. I think that I think this would make fantastic eyeball. I think they're probably selling the heck out of this japan right now. Gray whiskey get it in the store. And i'm not. I'm not surprised. Because i mean when when paul john i i mean they had just gotten to the us and really had just set up their first office and hired their first employees. When i called them and said hey. I heard about this amazing whiskey. Can we get some from our show and it took him a while to even get it to us because they didn't have any in states yet. So we've been doing. Paul johnson's they would really hit the us shores and everything. We've had for them as always been great. I i mean they haven't had a clunker yet so i'm not surprised. And even though it's designed to be a you know a less expensive you know Whiskey still the quality's there. I mean i love the. I love this bottle to buy. It's i mean it's it's don't get me wrong. It's certainly not their higher ones. You know. I mean but for for the money. Yeah great. Great everyday drinker. Great value can't beat it so we're going to be reading the pol. John nevada three steps. Well done guys so moving onto our next. We're gonna have justin tell us about that. Glenn meringgi a tale of cake. And more angie angie a tale of cake. You're gonna find that connery clip again. Maybe where mercy ninety two proof and forty six percent alcohol by volume one day glenmore angie's director of landing margie director whiskey creation. Dr bill lumpkin van themselves musing over. How some of his moist. So i was giving him fantastic and faces a chiming with dr bill. Okay so he was musing over his most joyful memories and figured out they came from cake from the pineapple upside down cake. His daughter made birthday to baking with his granny in her kitchen. Dr bill created a tale of cake to conjure the magic of a cake moment. Finishing his favourite glenn meringgi single malt. He's still can't get it. The finest takagi dessert wine cats tokai. I it's spelled tokaj but come on guy you should know you're bulgarian. Bulgarian all right so on the nose. I god vanilla cake. Frosting like caramel and mango on the pallet. It was sweet. It was complex and there was honey white chocolate peach pear mango little bit of oak and The finish was light. This is like a beautiful desert in a spirit. But you think brent nice you know so when you When you think of something of a cake as tale cake you know you figure the. Come through this better. Remind me of a cake and this really does remind you of a cake. I mean you know when the penalties what's that this is several cakes will walking by a bakery and and seeing all the different smell. I mean the tasting notes that come with this is like eighteen lines of tasting notes so what it tastes like the. I don't think that's bad because as you approach this every time you drink every time you have a drink of it and you get something else you pick up something else you know but because i got the the the pair that peach mango the almond vanilla like right off the ballot. Oh and just like a beautiful cake and then you go back again and you pick up something else. Should pick up a little bit of white chocolate or you'll pick up some peach or you know you'll pick up. One of the flowers are apricot or something. But but it all comes back to reminding you and you think about it from his tail of this of the cake that he's you know that used to enjoy and so the name of it who doesn't cake right exactly that cake so exactly so it comes back to actually matches the you know. The flavor of this actually matches what the name says and that doesn't happen too often. Six numbers away from burning this house to the ground. Moving to sky when going to work for dr bill for free and learning how to make my own scotch. When i do. I'm gonna have bob's tale of ice cream cake. I'm gonna make a scotch tastes like carville with crunchies. Ooh one time. I was how the pumpkin this is beautiful. This is very nice. This is very enjoyable here. You hear you know. I shouldn't be spread. So you've actually like a few scotches. The past now may turn. Our boys are boy is making gr- has made great strides in arkansas. No no but if i but if he was here and i offered him one and he would drink and more often. That's not because i would. It's not so much. Let's clarify that. Should he'll drink anything which he will win. Roy who literally anything like raisin may jailhouse. Who need anything with alcoholic stern. Oh but he's gotten to the point where i mean. He's got some really insightful. Comments on some scotches that three or four years ago you would never thought you could get him to drink so our boys come a long way. Apparently you can teach this old dogs new. I'm proud of him. Yeah this is. Just this is fantastic. And i i i. This is exactly what. I expect from dr bill. You know. he's always got surprises. He's always got something up his sleeve and brent said everything in this that the five hundred flavors that you get when you put them altogether magic cake. This is one thing this the eleventh edition private. Private additional reese st eleventh year. They've done this private edition release and i think they've done a great job. The one thing. This doesn't have that. I miss is a bourbon. Finish doesn't have the finish like you get it all of it. It's not a real finish. Yeah i saw you find the achilles heel. The cake doesn't have a long finish either. If you think about it around you more and then you get some more out of it and then just like hey this guy. Smell this all night. I could just sit around and smelled us all night and literally. I've opened i bought. Probably the most in south florida to sell the stuff. I that i bought tons of it and i've probably drank a case with my friends since this we've got the scenario. Well here's the other thing. Can you think of a single whiskey out there. That's aged tokai. Wine casks neither night. So i mean god bless them for even thinking of that. I went harmeet. Explain it but it it it. It is graded in various numbers from dryer. Sweeter put on ios. I believe it's petunias. Yeah yeah but it's spelled p. Uta and wireless network join us. Scientists petunias literally pictures up between us one petunia to have tunes and drier sweeter so and it's a it's tongue gary yes on gary. It's a fantastic wine with a really long history. You can get some. I mean really older amazing stuff. It kinda disappeared when the iron curtain head. Yeah it's it's basically eastern europeans version of turn wine. Okay and it's freckle gorgeous. Yeah so some of the best wind. You'll ever have if you if you like a sweet wine. Oh my gosh. I mean just life altering we good. They're less expensive. I turn to. You don't have to spend a thousand dollars on a bottle like a bottle especially back when you know when the soviets reading things three dollars car good ball the tokai for one hundred bucks an amazing toca. But or maybe two hundred. I guess these days and so that all that resonated fruit gets into this. This is what's giving layers of course glenmorangie as their light reason. Why i love a px sherri you finish you know it's more resonated. It's got more of the great character to it but that's much more auction is yes is pressuring. Yeah this is. Yeah exactly exactly what he said. But you know similar concept so it's you know it's it's it's it's it's one. I would never even considered at my head. I can't think of a single whiskey out there. That isn't that has done in a tokai white guy. So maybe there was. Somebody did it before but He's done a great job as usual but harm live so visit live it. Live it alive on the. It dances for. Thank you dr bill. And we're gonna be writing the glenmorangie glenmorangie. More orange or like origins. Yes the glenmorangie taylor cake. We're going to be reading. Well deserved forceps. I think if if it had longer finished if if it had longer finish it would have been a five out of the park. But i think he's right. I think it's cake. I think he made a back Right let me ever have cake with a long finish. No no if you a capable finished you think something's wrong with this. Let me drink cake. It's so moving onto our next one sweetness as you bob. I have such a soft spot in my heart for ball vinnie. It's one of my favorites. My wife glenmorangie. Bov any Then we have with us today. The ball vinnie ton tino nine batch seven so one hundred four point eight proof fifty two point four percent a ab this one runs around four hundred to five hundred bucks depending on your local the fifteen o nine ton is an annual release with each battling be made up of specially selected cast which are married together for several months and the distilleries ton number. Fifteen o nine which is located in the famous warehouse. Twenty four at bow at bovina distillery. This is the seventh release the ton and it was made using whiskey from twenty one cast. That's it twenty-one casks handpicked by ball minis malt master david stewart who is an absolute legend in the scotch community at this included ten sherry butts seven sherry hogshead in four american oak barrels. They're all married together for three months before bottling so get into it. Oh it's just it's just. Yeah it's one of those ones. I just sit there and smell. I don't even need to first describe this color. Sort of a pale bronze What a bit of burnish copper allowing yeah jr got a beautiful glow to it. Got some wonderful but dried fruit Dry fruits oh what a little ginger just in the tip of the nose and just layer layer layer of brown sugar and and and molasses and cane syrup so sweden house on the palate Candied orange peel. Swipe henna women Honeycomb brown sugar little toasted hazelnut definitely got a nutty. The nuttiness comes out on the sale on the finish more Just a just just the most beautiful underway minute baking spice not faking spice way up in your face but just this beautiful layer underneath and it's got a really just amazingly long long wound complex. Finish in its lobby. What'd you think it's what you said. I love it okay. Nothing to add to brandt as they could you drink this one. I could drink one. This is a nice one. This is nice and pleasant. There's the complex the complexity of it and it doesn't have the sweetness lost once more nut right right right but it's What i like about it doesn't have that. Pd smokiness two zero scotches have and this is just. This is just very well. It's fanny. I mean other than we compete. There's no right and it's just beautiful you to sit back and just sit there and enjoy this one that's Candied orange peel comes through on that palin right away some. I enjoyed yeah. We'll get back to justin come back. Hey and we're back and we're discussing the ball of any ten fifteen or nine seven would would you think about it. Well i like big sherry butts cannot lie. This was really interesting about this spirit. Oh yeah all the sweetness to it has kind of ginger notes to it as gingers you know. Cut that acidic. No one here has read her. Say that marianne now. It's got that little bit of acidic bite to it and that keeps it from being a fresh overly sweet right. Each sep is like the first sale. No it's it's it's more. It's not sweet as sugary srey. It's more sweet in the perception of it and in the nose definitely not bourbon. Sweet new new on ninety close. No it's it's just. It's so well balanced refreshing. I think that was the word i was searching for. I liked it a lot. Well we are going to rank the bomani ton fifteen on nine batch number seven of five steps so we're going to be moving onto our next whiskey and we're gonna have harm. Tell us about this one. So all right sir. Thank you so much for having me here today. Tell you about the dronut kingsman edition. Ninety nine vintage is this one hundred to one hundred point to proof fifty point one percent. Ab its pricier. One we don't like to talk about pricing but expect to drop thirteen hundred or more on this bottle expertly crafted by master blender. And it's worth it in a unique collaborative collaboration with the kingsman franchise to mark the upcoming release the kingsman exceptional nineteen thousand nine inch inspired by the oldest bottle housed bottle. Housed at the glen. Dark distillery twenty nine year old whiskey bald in nineteen thirteen just before the outbreak reward of the world were one. Three friends had each purchase bottle before leaving for war environment. Open them together on their return. Tragically only one of them returned home and never. Having opened his policies family later gifted the distillery where remained unopened displayed in remembers. Remember friends so this is a tribute to that whiskey conspired that one and the kingsman edition matured in alrosa sherry cask with a file mountain pedro jimenez cast from. Yes only three thousand fifty two bottles available worldwide. The color is a deep manatt. Mahogany the knows. It covers tastic plums. Figs brown sugar chocolate. Oh my god this thing just goes on. I can't even pick out all the tasty notes. I know you guys will pick up more than me but this is what i got. I how the palate is just tons of fruit orchard fruit apples and pears. But that's totally overwhelmed by figs and dates. There's a pudding coming. On like the butterscotch. Like christmas pudding raisins chocolate tobacco blackberries. There's so much in here. I'm getting this things. I can't really identify as well. This whisky is complex. And the finnish goes on on its heavy. Its mouth cody. Somebody chocolate tasting the okay. This one here the darkness of it is you know when you talk about dark whiskeys and stuff. I don't know that they get any darker than what this one is. It's beautiful dark color lack like my heart. Oh like your soul doesn't have that. He sold that for beer. Money college this long. This pride and self esteem. What's wrong with you this shop down on main drag right by his dorm steam in grad school delaware just a soul but this one is Reminds me a lot of some of the old winds that we've had at stuff because of that raising that. Yeah you're getting the px on right exactly you're getting that on it and stuff but it's nine years and keith. Can you tell hangs out with me when we go ahead to. It's like oh this tastes like one of them will raise any winds that you always order. Yes it does one of those damn things things. He's complain when it comes to the table. Their trust me well. No cricket something good. You don't want to complain about it. You like to raise anything to go to this weinstein. Nineteen ten. That's too young but a beautiful. I mean it really coach your mouth and and really has a beautiful finish to it. It's just nice. it's not over. It's not overpowering. It all and pleasant. I mean just very pleasant tussin. I would summarize the spirit in one word mouth feel mouth feel is better than any spirit. I've ever had doesn't overcoat. your tongue. Doesn't undercut your tongue delivers all the flavors in it and just perfect perfect. God bless rachel berry i. I've never had a chance to meet her. But i i look forward to one day shaking her hand and thanking her. All the mazing work. She's done especially over at gwen can and some of the distilleries brown floor. She took two years to ben rock and elevate them she hated everything they have. And what's coming out of the place. Now i mean oh my gosh tasted all the old stuff so keep these get released. Keep these re rack these okay. We're good to go but yeah just oh my gosh the px finish comes through. It's just i mean. What more can you say. This is an absolutely fantastic. Whiskey just dried fruits the raising awareness that you give from the px. That's sweetness Finish it goes on and on and on most beautiful car fantastic whiskey. So we're going to be reading the gwent ronak. Nineteen eighty nine vintage kingsman. Release five very few balls. You can find one sits in your budget. You have to get it. You can scream when you drink this for sure. That sounds really summed it up so we are going to our next one and we've been waiting all day for this one for brent. Thank you bye. We have so excited are beg trae. Bon batch to ninety two point four proof forty six point two percent. Ab and this is nineteen years old. A nineteen year old one. That's nice so this exquisitely wisdom and got her call. I'll give them. Your address is inspired by the beautiful beaches of trayvon pronounced trayvon. I pronounced it wrong. So on isla trayvon's it's known locally as the singing sands the tides ebb and flow and the beach hums beneath your feet but in the seemingly tame crystal waters danger lurks as jagged volcanic rock. Pearson's surf along the shore. This place like there was yourself as call meet. Storm matured in american oak. And all the russell's sherry casks batch to subway different to the previous release of trayvon time around the nineteen year old takes on an altogether more silky smooth character thanks to a higher proportion of first fill bourbon casks alongside refills of sherry casks. So the color of this is really really light. I mean it's a bright gold man. it's not water that's called this bryce gold anyway. Look at this late. Well compared that last one we had like mahogany right. You know that's a web way. It's a gold sort of forget about that. Tell us about the nose or the nose. The first thing again is smoke smoke smoke and more smoke and but after a while you gotta let the smoke burn off a little bit and young and all of a sudden you start getting layers to it just like next time you go in a little bit. You're getting something else. You're getting some you get a little bit of Salt spray a little. Bit of a t- Little bit of fennel some leather eucalyptus you get f. You call it. Yeah you definitely get to eucalyptus very nice On the palate really turns you off at first. Was like you just go back to. It turns you off at first. I was excited and his bottle team. I mean i had to go back at. It says i've turned the caused me made a noise like a six year old girl. I can register. I can't make. I saw the best barbie doll ever. Yeah no on the ballot for me. The best way. I can describe this on. The pallet is is that i overcook the pineapple on the grill so dried it out a little too much. And that's and that's how i would. That's how i would describe it. They're talking. I mean if i hadn't tells the player like okay what do you do. How was this tastes. That's what it's going to be. We'll take your little another taste of this. Just garissa. i'd have branches is really not into this stuff. But oh my god i love. That's why we love having him but yeah does have a little lime to it as well. Li- little lime the pineapple. but just. Yeah that pete. Smoke on the palate just drives my tongue out. It just drives my tongue. I'm like to scrape my tongue when i don't dryer bourbon. I know that but not like this. This is not super woody dry. It dries it i wanted. Females are freaking this boy. Out as he's he's trying he's trying dude. I'm saying two years ago we gave this term. He'd be under the table. Weeping wasn't able weeping still limb. what did you think are i. I'm in love with this whiskey. I love trayvon one thousand nine hundred batch one but this blows better. This one's better. It's again the song one of the price ones. This is not a thousand dollar whiskey as three hundred thirty dollar whiskey or whatever it is and it's like a little bit more than last year's but we've also got twenty five percent tariffs done so that that's the chuck that up to the tariff pricing. But it's still amazing this they talk about because you know art bag underneath scott the sweetness. Even though they've got the really short stills that's got the heavy oil are the shortest hills in iowa. You got the heavy and oily. Whiskies coming off that thing. It's just the characters gorgeous. I go on and on. We've had another whiskey after this. What do you think. Jessica ahead justin. Yeah so initially. All i get was smoking. But i let air get to it. Took like seven or eight really small sips to let that my pal acclimate to it and then there is that sweetness underneath. And it's pretty good and if you hate the pd stuff it's not just keep now keep trying it 'cause you will learn to appreciate it. It's hard to believe at the time it's it's it's it's a journey must thing with wine same thing here i mean you you educate your power you get to that point. Fantastic whiskey agree with harm. I think it's better than last year's trayvon molasses. Trayvon was fantastic. This just gets mielke. And it gets better. Where we're going to be rating. The hard bake tribon batch number two five inspired print protests over all right so our last one is also marred vague. It's the are beg. We beastie it's Ninety proof forty five percent. Ab it's the latest permanent expression to join the distilleries ultimate range at just five years old. It's a feisty young creature with formidable taste with a mission to create the raw Are beg ever the whiskey creators developed. We beastie a tongue tingling beautifully. Smokey dram which is the youngest are beg they have ever made. I don't i don't agree with what they're saying. Because i honestly don't think it's nearly as pd. And smokey as even the. Yeah the one thousand nine. You'd think that'd be less pd because exactly because of the age as the tends to maintain. This is expecting this to kill me. Yeah this is a black pepper and honestly we've had it open for a while and more the pizza actually blown off had more of a pine resin any kind of Smokiness to it. But that's even that's even toned down now with that with with time but it's it's got a deceptively sweetness to it on the on the no on the power i just i get i get. I get the p. I get that smokiness. The sort of medicinal to it. But i get Saltiness it's like assaulted chocolate caramel. It's not a smoky. As now i mean people can that people often confused pete and smoke and usually the are there. Because you know you the pizza. By burning the pete you get the smoking the barley and they measured by parts per million of female. But there's an earthy note from the pete and there's a smoking difference. I must be. It has the earth and as rabin raw. This is a beast he. But this is a small beastie. This is not this is not so we these cheat so we'd be yeah we'd be st. It's an ankle. Biter beastie so it's gorgeous. I'd like but i got butterscotch on the front runner. Forthing i knows butterscotch antagonise smoke just like it and that pineridge sweetness to the those so good dude and but i really. It's up to brent. Come on man. What do you think okay the knows. I got pine pine cones on the nose. And i i was expecting after reading the description of expecting to get smoke on the knows more smoke than what i did but i didn't get smoke on the knows i mean normally when somebody opens up a smoky koch or something from i i pick i pick it up right away and stuff and i and with this one here. I was like no i really. Don't get any smoke on those. But i do get it on the palate. I do get smoke on the little bit of salt sea salt spray on the on the palate as well and just oh mommy note. It's a count that mommy like protein media type thing. They're kind of like a salami kind of thing. You know smoke. Alex smith salami make a greasy smokey salty sausage. Yeah like you didn't make that sound good at not. What word that. I use did not sound good there. I mean what are you looking at. Vegans oh yeah justin the this freak you out to now. This was really really good. I mean for young whiskey from anywhere. It's got the smoke is like a really good complexity to and pretty outstanding harbor. Talking about iowa is a very different beast when it's very young versus when it's very old right completely changes its character. I mean i've had. I've had younger than this at castro and it and it definitely you can literally take it. And it's an entirely different whiskey but great stuff so forceps for the art beg we basically well done and welcome to the permanent range out. Yes a both we. We didn't mention this before but arden bag To new things to from the bbc the five year old and the trayvon nineteen-year-old every year old is in a new nineteen year old. Yep so this is the second one so fantastic staff will. That's all the time we have for today. We'll hope enjoyed this episode. Fear listening to us on. Why do yourself a favor and tat. The subscribe button easiest way to listen to our show. Ask siri alexa. Google or whoever the lady is the talks back to you on your phone or in your head. Mike harm Play podcasts obsessing smokes. My wife doesn't every time i asked her. If she says she says no. We love your feedback. You can reach us online at infosys. A- smokes dot com and our daily tasting notes flat on twitter every day. it's tips that smokes and our facebook page is always buzzing with lots of news you'll also be able to interact with thousands of other fans on no social media platforms. 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The inspector general blasts the department of veterans affairs handling of a sexual assault report an update on former florida department of health employees. Rebecca jones's story after police raided her home with guns drawn. Facebook is being sued for antitrust violations. Ted cruz offers to argue the texas election law suit of the spring court and an inside look why. Republicans are not opposing. Trump's idiots edition. I'm your host ag. Hey everybody Big show for you today. I'll be speaking with producer writer director. John van de poll about his documentary about his trump supporting family And how to bridge that. Divide if you're into it. I'll also be chatting with former department of justice. Official white house aide now law professor at georgetown working at the security josh. Geld sir. we're going to be talking about that texas lawsuit and of course it's friday. We'll have amy career here for the good news later in the show. And today we have are happy hour patrons on zoom so if you want to become a patron of the show and you get the these episodes ad free as a patron if access to our zoom. happy hours. we're going to be doing one On christmas is it christmas eve christmas day. Let me check that It looks like christmas day the night of and then. Also we're gonna be having one thursday night new year's eve You'll also get book club. Episodes bonus content. You get these. You get daily beans episodes of the night before they come out. You get my research notes. Personal research notes. It's all kinds of stuff for just three bucks so had to patriot dot com slash miller. She wrote if you want to join up there. We have a lot of headlines to get to so. Let's hit the high notes hot notes. Okay the lead story. Today is that pfizer's cove in nineteen vaccine passed a critical milestone today. Thursday when a panel of experts formally recommended that the fda authorized the vaccine. The agency is likely to do so within days not weeks but days now and that will give healthcare workers nursing home residents first priority to begin receiving the first shots That's going to be early next week. The fda's vaccine advisory panel composed of independent scientific infectious disease. Doctors and statisticians voted seventeen to four with one member of standing in favor of emergency authorization for people sixteen and so this vaccine will not be for people under the age of sixteen with rare exceptions. The fda fall the advice of its advisory panel. So this will probably go through with a formal blessing. The nation finally began to slow the spread of the virus just as infections and deaths surge reaching a record of more than three thousand daily deaths on wednesday. And it looks like it's going to be continuing. The food and drug administration is expected to grant an emergency youth or authorization on saturday. That's according to people familiar with the agency's planning though. They cautioned that last minute. Legal or bureaucratic could push the announcement to sunday or later. The initial shipment of six point four million doses will leave warehouses within twenty four hours of being cleared by the fda. that's according to federal officials and about half of those doses will be sent across the country while the other half will be reserved for the initial recipients to receive their second doses about three weeks later and from politico today the centers for disease control and prevention director. Robert redfield instructed staff to delete an email from a trump political appointee seeking control over the agency scientific reports on the pandemic according to a senior. Cdc official who told congressional investigators. This week i'm willing to bet that trump political appointee was none other than caputo that he's now out of the cdc he was Put in as comms director In health and human services. I believe I think that's probably who it was. Red fields apparent instruction was revealed on monday during a closed-door interview with house subcommittee who was investigating the white house's corona virus response which includes the trump administration's interference at the federal public health agency. The cdn it came following an august eighth emails by paul alexander who was then the scientific adviser health and human services. Spokesperson michael caputo. Oh i was right. I should read my own scripts aiming to water down the cd's famed morbidity and mortality weekly reports to align with trump's to downplay the virus which we know he's been doing since february since we got those woodward tapes today biden said he will tap former obama. Chief of staff denis mcdonough to run the department of veterans affairs mcdonagh is not a veteran and this ripples through veterans service organizations today there were multiple qualified veterans being considered for this job including murphy. Who would have been the agency's first gb to q. Secretary and tammy duckworth of course was being considered for that position as well buddha. Judge to but i think he's going to be the ambassador to china. I have to look that up. I don't want to misquote myself. actually. I wouldn't be quoting myself but i don't want to have false information. Let's see here. Buddha judge ambassador doodoo do china. I was right okay. So that's going on in the in the department of veterans affairs and i am As a former employee and as veterans disabled veteran. I really think it's important to have a veteran who has gotten and received care at the department of veterans affairs and has had a claim go through the veterans benefits administration to head the agency. I'm a little confused by this pick understands. He's he's a good guy but Somebody really needs to understand how the va functions. It's going to be critical to see who biden. Pixes the deputy secretary of the department of veterans affairs Because there's already a high learning curve and to have a non veteran there just doesn't make sense to me but in a related story after a nearly yearlong investigation veterans affairs investigators. The inspector general failed to confirm explosive charges at secretary. Robert wilkie led a criminal campaign to discredit a veteran who reported sexual assault at a department medical center. And we do have a trigger warning here. We might be talking a little bit about that assault but investigators still blasted senior leadership for working to attack critics rather than pursue reforms. Quote the tone set by secretary wilkie was at minimum unprofessional and at worst provided the basis for senior officials to put out information to national reporters to questioned the credibility and background of the veteran who filed a sexual assault complaint. This is according to the report from the va. I g wilkie called the report findings off base and politically motivated. Saying that facts fully vindicate his leadership team handling of the incident. The he says quote the could not identify a single instance in which via employees violated any regulation or policy so apparently his policy is that. It's cool to try to discredit somebody who's filing sexual assault report. He also blasted. The report is more dedicated to scoring political points and improving department a dynamic that has defined the inspector general's conduct throughout this investigation. It's pretty unheard of by the way to hear a secretary of agency go after that agency's inspector general like this. The controversy stems from the department's handling of a sexual assault complaint in september of twenty nineteen from a navy. Reservist named goldstein. That's a staffer of the house. veterans affairs committee. She reported being groped and verbally abused by a male veteran while she was in a public area of the washington. Dc medical center turns out the brand new cameras were installed right there. That would have caught. The whole thing weren't functioning. Lawmakers demanded an independent investigation and reforms to the departments sexual misconduct prevention policies wilkie at the time promise to allow the i g to conduct an independent investigation but disputed assertions that va policies. Were at the heart of the problem. In february inspector general closed its investigation into gold signs accusations saying they could not confirm or disprove them. Response wilkie sent a letter to the congressional committee lamenting that. The unsubstantiated claims hurt public confidence in the department last month. Former deputy secretary of the va. James byrne who was fired suddenly in february publicly. Alleged that willkie viewed goldstein's accusations as a political fight and worked behind the scenes to spread rumors to discredit her Wilkie also lacked candor when he told the i g that he did not conspire texas republican dan crenshaw as part of that discredit campaign that he was running and we have quite an update on rebecca jones. Story if you remember. She was a form of former florida department of health employees. That was fired. For refusing to falsify cova numbers on the department of health's website so she launched her own site from home and continued to keep people updated on the correct numbers this week. A warrant was issued by a brand new baby judge. By the way the first warrant he ever issued and her home was raided by cops with their guns drawn while her children there and they confiscated her equipment allegedly illegally hacked a messaging service to send the department of health employees a message to tell them and urge them to speak truth to power and tell the truth about the real covert numbers. It turns out that wasn't her and access to that system was actually available to the public on the department of health website. So i hope she sues to santa's from the police into the ground and the federal trade commission and more than forty states have accused facebook on wednesday of buying up its rivals to illegally quash competition and they called for the deals to be unwound escalating regulators battle against the biggest tech companies in a way that could remake the social media industry federal and state regulators are both parties who investigated the company for more than eighteen months said in a separate lawsuit to facebook's purchases especially of instagram for a billion dollars in two thousand twelve and what's app for nineteen billion two years later eliminated competition that would have one day. Challenge to companies dominance since those deals instagram and whatsapp have skyrocketed in popularity giving facebook control over three of the world's most popular social media and messaging apps the applications have helped catapult facebook from a company started in a college dorm room. Sixteen years ago to an internet powerhouse. Valued at more than eight hundred billion dollars. The lawsuits filed in the us district. The district of columbia underscore the growing bipartisan in international. Soon nami against big tech. Lawmakers and regulators have zeroed in on the grip that facebook google amazon and apple maintain on commerce electronic social networking searching online advertising and remaking the nation's economy in a hearing before the house judiciary committee last july zuckerberg was confronted with emails from around the time of the acquisition of instagram and whatsapp. That showed facebook. The facebook founder zuckerberg saw the companies as competition and a threat zuckerberg says that the acquisitions have not reduced competition and the emails were taken out of context. I'm sure he was just talking about something else. And from the new york times last week. Allies president trump accused republican leaders in pennsylvania of being cowards and liars and letting america down mr trump himself called top republicans in the general assembly in his crusade to twist the arms of officials in three states to reverse the election. The pennsylvania lawmakers told the president. They had no power to convene a special session to address grievances but they also rewarded his efforts on friday. The state house speaker and majority leader joined hard-right colleagues whom they had earlier resisted and called on congress. Congress to reject reject biden's eighty-one thousand vote victory in pennsylvania the extraordinary intervention by the president willingness of top party leaders to abet his effort to subvert the election all this demonstrates how trump sway over elected republicans is likely to endure even after he leaves office. And how false claims of a rigged. Vote me inflame the party base for years to come. That's the plan always has been. That was the plan in two thousand sixteen if he lost courts across. The country have summarily thrown out. Mr trump's claims of a stolen election but sixty four republicans in the general assembly signed a letter last week urging pennsylvania's congressional delegation to reject the state's electoral college votes for biden kim ward the republican majority leader the pennsylvania senate said the president had called her to declare there was fraud in the voting. But she said she had not been shown the letter to congress which was pulled together hastily before its release and asked if she would have signed it. She indicated that republican base expected party leaders to back trump's claims or face its wrath. She said if i would say to you. I don't wanna do it. I'd get my house bombed tonight. That's the threat. It reminds me of what now. Judge gleeson john grayson then prosecutor gleason told weisman andrew weissmann about gaudy about the gotti thing. He's like we've got this in the bag when it comes to evidence where we could lose the case is if the jury is afraid or somebody interferes or refuses to cooperate. Yeah despite that more than one hundred house. Republicans on thursday signed an amicus brief in support of the texas lawsuit aimed at overturning. The election results for georgia michigan pennsylvania and wisconsin the brief quote the brief presents our concern as members of congress shared by untold millions of their constituents that the unconstitutional irregularities involved in the twenty twenty presidential election cast doubt upon its outcome in the integrity of the american system of elections outgoing republican. Study committee chairman. Mike johnson one of trump's closest allies in the house having served on his impeachment defense team helped lead the effort to garner support from his. Gop colleagues for the brief johnson is joining the gop leadership team in the new congress other key. Republicans who signed the brief includes steve scalise. Jim jordan Andy biggs from arizona. He's the chair of the freedom caucus and jim banks from indiana. The incoming republican study committee chairman house minority leader kevin mccarthy another top trump. elliot's not among the signatories allies skis. Me neither is. Gop conference chairwoman. Liz cheney mccarthy twice declined to comment to reporters thursday when directly asked if he supported the texas lawsuit probably because he thinks he's house will get bombed. The electoral college meets monday to cast their votes with congress. Slated to vote on certifying. The results january. Sixth it is tradition at the outgoing vice president. Read those results. That would be pence gore. Did it fun. Bush took over biden. Did it in two thousand and sixteen. So let's see if pence does it and we'll see what happens when congress is supposed to vote on certifying that vote and stick around next. I'm going to be joined by josh pelzer. 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I'm joined by former. Doj lawyer in the national security division former white house. Deputy legal adviser to the national security council executive editor security and law professor at georgetown. Josh galster john welcome. How do you have time to even speak with me with all that going on. It's going to be the best part of my day. I can tell already. It's great to talk to you again. And i have been dying to talk to you about this texas lawsuit. I don't even know what to call it. Lawsuit seems like a stretch Tell us a little bit about it. This is from texas and seventeen other attorneys general. All from red states have joined and trump himself has joined with some errors in his filing. What are they what. I can't even figure out what the basis of their legal opposition is to the the vote tallies in these four states. I think you're not alone in struggling to find a legal theory here rather than and a political statement spread of disinformation. But if i try to stand it up as best i can. The claim is that in four states that went for president elect biden. There were voting irregularities. We would just call that allegations of voter fraud. And moreover that was somehow enabled facilitated exacerbated by changes made to how voting was conducted in twenty twenty that texas and those supporting texas in the suit. are arguing violates the constitution because it was not done specifically and holy and in every last detail by the legislatures of those four states. So you package up this idea of irregularities and fraud with the idea of somehow actors within the states acting in ways contrary to their constitutionally assigned roles and all of that is now being dumped on the steps of the us supreme court as a hail. Mary or if there's something even more distant than a hail mary attempt to do what's ultimately overturning. The popular will of america's voters. But okay what. What does texas argue gives it standing to file this lawsuit. I mean i've seen so many things turned down for standing like this. You aren't the right person to sue for this i don't i kind of don't understand. Like maybe disenfranchised voter Might be able to to file a lawsuit about not having their vote counted We saw that in one of the pennsylvania cases. I think where you know where the the to voters felt that their bow. No it was michigan. Maybe they felt like they didn't get a chance to cure their ballots and instead of having their ballots cared. They wanted to have everyone. Else's ballots uncured But what gives texas standing anything. They argue not much in reality. But here's what they argue. What they argue. At least as as best i can present. It is that being part of country. In which a a president and the vice president have been on texas as rendering improperly put into office creates the sort of specific harm to state of texas that is necessary to overcome the article three of the constitutional requirement of there being standing. Now that's not a standing argument. They can point to any. Us supreme court case to vindicate is understanding argument. That many people think is accurate. But at least as i read their briefing say they are harmed by fellow states states who sovereignty my point out texas in particular is often the first to to pay homage to but nonetheless here they say the states right. That's right should those states should be barred from having the the will of their own state's voters carried out at least as currently formulated because it would harm the state of texas in what that yields at the national level for for leadership. And just one more thing. I might add before you even get to standing your listeners. Might be wondering. How is this going directly to the to the supreme court. I mean a lot of us. Kind of mocked president trump earlier when he indicated he bringing election grievance to the supreme court and the answer is there is in the constitution one of two categories of original jurisdiction in other words where you can start your case in the supreme court. One of those categories is when a state susan other state. The idea country's founding being that supreme court would offer something of a neutral forum for that rather than one state or the other getting a home field advantage in its own courts. But just because you can ask the supreme court to hear a case like that does not mean court needs to and indeed it declines to so before we even get to a ruling that i think would would fall prey to standing and a bunch of other threshold problems for for for texas as a plaintiff clear. Indeed i would say it's unlikely that supreme court will entertain this as lawsuit in the first place. Yeah i've heard about latches and ted cruz. But i it i mean. The constitution gives states the rights to run their election. The way they want to. That's right we have this system of federalism that means various things but in the election context it means that states play a very large role in administering elections that are in fact state elections in park. Right we all have. We see state election choices on the ballot when we when we vote but they also have federal election choices on them and to the extent. There's there's a coherent constitutional theory here. It's one on which there was some debate before election day because it began to kind of folk up its head in some opinions or statements by particular justices are subsets of justices regarding some of the litigation that folks brought to the supreme court often on an emergency posture before election day. And there's a debate here over this notion of what it means for the legislature to be the one to set the rules within a state to carry out elections including federal elections. And you and. I've talked about this before i am of the view and i think other share this view that the supreme court has basically resolved this question. They've told us in an earlier case that when the constitution says legislature here it means state lawmaking process so just as in many areas of the law. State legislatures will set rules that state executives than need to implement stay courts that need to interpret. Because that's kind of how law works but whatever the exact batteries of this doctrine might prove to be the. This is a terrible terrible way to bring to the court because the idea of overturning a bunch of states results after there's been voting after certification after federal safe harbor day is passed that that runs headlong into a bunch of of legal doctrines. It's been brought up ted cruz. He's offered and trump has accepted for him to argue this supreme court. I have a feeling the only reason ted cruz offered is because he knows he won't have to and he's just pandering to the trump base. I mean that's kind of what i feel like. He's like yeah absolutely. I'll help you build a snowman. Hell it just seems disingenuous. It really does seem unlikely that this is going to yield actual oral arguments in the supreme court and so whatever may be motivating that offer. It seems unlikely that it's one that will that will ultimately come to fruition and the supreme court and it's fresh in many people's minds at twenty years ago decided a case that we all knew would be outcome determinative for a federal election but i can't emphasize strongly enough how different bush versus gore is from this case. I mean first of all the lay of the land. Delay the country. That point was that. A very small number of votes astonishingly small number would be the difference makers in one state. The state of florida that itself would be the difference maker for the country as a whole and while many of us have used as to who was right and who is wrong and some of the the complex legal questions that went to the court in that case the court woman came out five four so they're obviously differing views there. That is a far far cry from this effort by one st supported by one candidate and supported by a number of other states to tell four states that the votes they administered and that had been litigated extensively in state and federal courts. Within those states somehow those votes should not be counted and the supreme court should be the one to halt all of that. That's really interesting and scream court in one case Where they just refuse to hear Refused to hear the case already now Just a couple of. I've some speculation here. I was wondering what your thoughts are. First of all. It seems to me like paxton. Who's the attorney general in texas. It seems this feels like a quid. Pro quo to me. This feels like he's angling for pardon like be like he's filing this lawsuit that has absolutely no chance to appease this president and then also you know i'm i'm kind of wondering if because i'm pretty sure that the supreme court will just not hear this case we might see it just another one liner without any opinions attached. Just no but trump could turn on his own script supreme court and that wouldn't that be interesting. I mean it does seem like in the way. President talks about court talks about the justices. He nominated in particular. That trump has some sense that they are the air to do. His will and all of us are entitled to agree or disagree with particular rulings particular cases particular votes by particular justices. But i i feel very strongly that none of the nine justices view their jobs their constitutional responsibilities that way they are not there to do donald trump's bidding their do their to do law as best they see it in any particular case and that is a wide gulf between him and frankly the rule of law the federal judiciary the gulf we saw even in his campaign. I don't mean in twenty twenty. I mean back in two thousand fifteen twenty sixteen in the way. He talked about judges and regrettably. It's essentially a rhetorical assault. He's waged on the judiciary ever since so. I do think that he just thinks about courts differently. And really out of staff with with the american tradition of viewing places that are not just extensions of politics of political power of rhetoric. And in this case of the spread of misinformation but instead they are places that that the play different functions that he actually claims based on actual facts and actual law and those are just not on on donald trump side in this day aren't and we'll see what happens. I think i have a feeling What's going to happen and and and you know come back and speak to us after that Although i don't think any of us will be surprised. Thanks so much. Josh belcher for joining me today always a pleasure to join you. Thanks so much everybody stay with us. We have writer director and producer. Jon vanderhall right after this. Stay with us. Everybody it's ag with podcast is brought by plush care. Everything is so crazy and uncertain right now puts things in perspective and it reminds us that our health is the most important thing and despite everything that's going on it still crucial to be able to see your doctor when you're not feeling well that's why he's plush care push care. 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Yeah it's really great to talk to you and put a face to the name. I know everyone's just listening to audio. But it's a great to connect. The twitter community has been one of the things. That's kept me sane. In the last four years i think and so it's really nice to have you know done podcast like this or actually met in person you know before kobe and other things with with a bunch of people. It's it's been special to meet people and be part of that. Yeah it is quite a community and a very powerful and welcoming one as well so. I'm glad to have you here today. And i wanted to talk to you about this documentary That was brought to my attention on twitter and again it's called american times. Tell us a little bit about what this documentary is about. And what prompted you to create it. So i've always been a political junkie news junkie my whole life. I remember election night. Nineteen eighty when. I was seven years old. You know i mean obviously. I didn't have much context but i remember seeing the returns and all that and just kind of intrigued by it and you know through most of my life you know through some good times and bad times or whatever it still seem like it was able to sort of keep the train on the tracks you know and then like a lot of people in twenty sixteen it just i mean i i. It's not really hyperbole exaggeration to say i almost had a mental breakdown. I mean i just lost it. I was just not even election day. I before that. I don't know i just had a gut feeling that he was gonna win. And that indian. Just even if he hadn't won it was just such a bitter. You know just such a broken times you know. It has been for five years now. And so i needed to do something with that And and as a documentary filmmaker. Oh and then let me let me back up to You know the truth. Is that probably on the back of a napkin mass here. I don't know for sure. But i would probably eighty percent of the people on blood related to you know my aunts uncles cousins Voted for trump. You know. I come to western farm family. You know And i would. I would hazard a guess in the eighty percent range of the people that i'm related to voted for him so then there was that too. I was furious. I'd anyone wanna see him anymore. For just you know beside myself. I think a lot of people can empathize and relate to that too and so i decided while you know. I have this ability to make documentaries and passion for it and and so this seems like What i should do the way to work through it at my own process and hopefully you know others can see it and you know get something from it too. And so that's what i did. Yeah and it's it's really interesting. Because i've noticed i had the same thing right when one twenty sixteen happened. I have to do something. I kind of felt the historic nature of the moment and then especially when the special counsel was appointed which is why we started the podcast about the muller investigation. It's like a purpose right. Because i've always been a news junkie too. I remember nineteen eighty. And if i remember correctly i was same age as you if i remember correctly back then the on the electoral map the democrats were read. If i if. I'm remembering that correctly. I think you might be right. I don't remember that that part. But i think you you might be nothing there. Yeah i could be totally wrong. I want one of the listeners of this program will send me a correction if i am but i remember there being a flip somewhere like it's blue now. Okay but you know. We needed to do something i needed to do. Something i needed purpose and it seems like you had that too and i've noticed that in our community that we were talking about at the top When we first started having this discussion just a mere minutes ago. Which in this time can seem like years In this community we have so many people who have relatives that are trump supporters. And don't quite know how to cope with that or grieve. It's almost a grieving process Because you know we have this chosen family that we've picked up along the way and this community of support but you you know you still have your family family and a lot of people are dealing with that and and i think that that's something that's you know why it's so important that you had decided to make this film a documentary because you know. How do we cope with that. How do we bridge those gaps. How do we have those conversations. So can you talk a little bit about sort of what this documentary looks like and what people can expect from it. Yeah so not just Blood relatives of course. That's really deep people that have known us your whole life and you've known them but i i have friends that live in very progressive places right california places and they say well. I don't even know any trump voters. And i say you know what i bet you of your kids. Favorite teachers are your kids favorite soccer coach piano teacher or something you you do. You just don't know like we all love people who voted for trump. I think there's very few people who silo is so complete that they don't have people that they deeply care about that voted for trump and that hurts And so how do we deal with that. And so So that's i. I started by the way i'm an only child. I'm i'm an emt j. type personality. So i can be very night. You and i have a lot in common. a ha- only two percent of americans are emt jays. just the least common myers briggs personality type. And that's probably good. Because i am. I am one of them We are the field. Marshal's we are the leaders of leaders. And we're very pushy and stubborn and steve jobs e. So i'm i'm pretty exactly and they're in the downside of it there's upsides to of course ooh but i'm very acutely where the downside where you sort of can just sort of impulsivity. Just bring down the hammer right end. Just start tell people exactly why and where they're wrong and at end up hurting people right and it's So there was a lot of that you know for me in two thousand sixteen and beyond where the fuhrer the fury just came out. You know In unproductive ways for myself and others And so So what i did initially was. Go talk to some some people who are real masters of sort of Non violent communication. Or you know difficult conversations. We're having with people where there's a real disagreements. Um so the very first interview i did was with. Daryl davis He's the black man who has over last thirty forty years as befriended dozens of members of the kkk. And got him to leave an amazing story so again whenever anybody says to me oh forget it can't be done you know you're wasting your time like it's just a waste at point on. I say look if he can do it. I mean we all can't we're not he's exceptional human being. He's a master of this. We're all you know. Vast majority of us are never gonna get close to where he's at but it's something to it know that it's possible to get beyond this You know These deep divisions and the way he does it is he just shows up and and has one on one conversations and he shows them empathy and respect and it's almost like a trick in a way where they don't they're they're just human nature is if somebody shows you one on one kindness and empathy and respect you. Kind of just reciprocate. It takes a really really broken person not to kind of just instinctively reciprocate that and then so then they these kkk members. Start to you know. realize hey this guy's a good guy he's our that's the thing is ultimately it is based on ignorance. And he's showing them. Hey you know just just through his humanity power example. Kind of you know Bringing down the walls of that ignorance though so he was amazing And then i went and talked with robert gonzales who marsha rosenberg kind of created. This this psychological tool Philosophy called non violent communication Which is actually. It's a real practical set of tools. It's not just a sort of a high minded philosophy or whatever. It's very practical set of tools that you can use in any conflict whether it's You know you're a muslim wife having an issue or a you know a siblings or or whether it's the west bank or rwanda or something where you know where there's been real you know violence amongst cultures and stuff It you can use the same tools And so we talked. Robert got some advice from him and some other subscription peachy leaning who's the former white supremacist. Who helps to believe that. Were i was gonna bring. I was going to bring that one up because the you know. That's also got to be very difficult. Approach to for a for a former neo. Nazi white supremacist. To speak to current members of people you know people who are on the top thirty list at the southern poverty law center for white supremacy. Get them to leave and sort of way. you know. sort of have that that empathy. That conversation and i know we've had Former republican former trump supporter. David weissman on this show who who was reached out to sarah silverman on twitter with kindness shown kindness and now and became a warrant supporter now full on biden supporter full on democrat and he is revealing overtime on twitter showing some of his tweets and then talking deconstructing them and talking about how how things are different now for him and and what sort of made him come to those realizations. It's really it's it's it's impressive. One on one kindness empathy and kindness and respect conversations. Is how the work is done. You know it's a that's what these all all these people say that's all Darrow christian robert on and on. It's not done mass wholesale. It's done through one on one conversations with empathy and respect so and i always say to like yeah so it is a slow change right however theoretically let's just say there were three hundred twenty million people in the country whatever give or take. Let's just say there's one hundred sixty million trump supporters in one hundred sixty million biden supporters right for for rough math. Even though it's the long road to change theoretically we could all we can have this Start this know. Be quite a ways down the journey by tomorrow. If all if everybody just sat down and had one one on one conversation with somebody who voted for the other side we could be already doing. This work can make progress by tomorrow and it doesn't mean by the way the want to be very clear on this. We don't you don't have to your values or we're not normalizing the racism in all these terrible things. We're just having a one on. We're just acknowledging that this person who is exhibiting behavior that we don't agree with is still a human being you know. So it's it's we're not normalizing the behavior or the negative aspects that we are just just sitting down and having a one on one conversation human being human being well. It's almost like a cult membership right And and so you know when we looked at the nexium caught for example there were people that were drawn into it that became evil people and then there were people that were drawn into it that did not and were able to escape for lack of a better term. But i do. I do need to i. I would be remiss. If i didn't bring up the fact that there are many who aren't ready to or able to reach out and have these discussions or frankly just don't want to. I think we need to respect that. Wish as well. There's a lot of you know we've we've sort of been in abusive relationship for the past four or five years and so i think we also need to respect. There are some folks who either don't want to aren't comfortable shouldn't have to And will not for example. And i think we need to respect that too. It's it's it's kind of you know. I don't want to say that you know it's it's only people who have this ability to have those discussions and reach across to to these folks that are exceptional people They run the gamut. And i do respect that. Some simply aren't ready or willing to do that. If that under percent absolutely You know i am a educated white male. Right came from a family that loved me. The only reason i was in the crosshairs of maga you know on the bed guys list or whatever on their from their side is because i'm bleeding heart progressive other than that. I check off all the boxes of all the things that they support right. So i understand that. A lot of people who felt much more personally attacked by trump and his supporters. And we're actually hurt. Or disinfect. I a hundred percent understanding an amphitheater support for them in their not wanting to engage in. And go there. You know as far as starting dialogue with trump supporters to everyone you know should only do with their comper within. It's not like i'm great at it. either i get. I'm still furious and get angry at the stuff all the time too but the reality is know again. Eighty percent of my blood relatives voted for trump might direct next door neighbors who love my daughter and are so my daughter loves on there so you know they're nice people. They voted for trump. I don't want to excommunicate these people out of my life you know. So what do we do see. That's that's hard for me because you know know for first of all. I say we can't we i. It's hard it. it's it's it's hard. It's disingenuous to yell at people to to scream at them that they need to change that. Their views are wrong but then give them no space to do so when they want to come over But on the other side. I there's a large part of me that has given up talking to to trump supporters. Just given up on it. Because it's i feel like an especially in the age of social media. You only get so far and you know you talk about the non violent communication and let's be clear here that doesn't mean like not punching people. It's it's it's a way of speaking to folks. I don't have that i haven't mastered that and and so for me. It's been personally sort of required to just to actually communicate those folks from from my sphere to to to move the negativity out. But you know it's for those who are interested in learning those techniques. I think that this documentary is just absolutely fascinating and Anyone who's interested in watching it. Can you let folks know where they can find this. Yeah so all the. There's so i started out with the idea to make it a feature length documentary. I made one feature length before called exported from michigan You know ninety minute range And they ended up deciding to break this one up into into short episodes is just it's just more Contemporary way people consume stuff right. So it's it's thirteen short episodes. They're all free at american times film dot com and You know we've gotten really good response. i've had at this point. I don't even know three or four dozen people. At least you know tell me that episodes moved him to tears and they're just so you know happy to You know they've taken the time to check it out and got real value from it. And so i feel really Humble grateful that. I had the opportunity to make this and to to make this part of my contribution to get in through all of this You know nobody told me. Am i film that that they were moved to tears. I for dozens and dozens of times. You know people really move by and so Feels good that people are getting something from it. Yeah and for me for something. I'm not able to do or not willing to do to see others. That are is is quite moving. And i encourage. If anybody's you know. I encourage people to to check this out. So thank you so much for joining us today. Writer producer director of the documentaries called american times journey for madness to forgiveness john. Vander poets been excellent talking to you. Thank you you really appreciate it. Everybody stick around. We'll be right back with the good news. Everybody it's ag for the daily beans. Ms portion the podcast is brought to you by ashqelon incredible company providing the best in connected fitness at an affordable price. That's the key to guys like me. Like i said before i you know. The gyms are closed. I need to work out has to be fun. And engaging new and exciting you need to check out echelon echelon knows. There's no substitute for the rush of endorphins and the feeling of blissful accomplishment from a good workout so the folks at ashkelon pride themselves on able to keep you healthy and active so you can achieve your fitness goals and enjoy doing it at the same time. Their services amazing one echelon membership. Let's up to five household members. Receive all the benefits. 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Check them out at echelon fit dot com today. All right. Everybody welcome back. It's time for the good news and it's friday so that means shira is what's up amy caro- in hawaii. How are you. Oh aloha aloha. This is shira aloha edition. I am living my perfectly aloha life. I have to say for someone who has not travelled at all during this pandemic. I have traveled a lot for work mostly just to canada and then hawaii because my husband is a guest starring on Magnum pi. and. I'm having life just just like take out like eating takeout going to the beach where nobody else's i'm just really. I'm i'm bringing the sunshine. His all. I gotta stay. Well things bringing it to us mahalo. Let's do these. Good news confessions corrections. This is going to be fun. is the wrap up for the end of the week. Don't forget at four pm today. We have our four. pm pacific time not hawaii. I'm pacific time. We'll have our. We have our happy hour. So that'll be fun to you. Have to be patron to do that. I gave earlier in the show. I gave the information on how to do that. But you can do it at daly's pod dot com and Patriots dot com schmo. She wrote however you wanna do it and let's kick this off. I'm going to kick it off with a an entry here from kim pronouns. She and her. Kim says hi ladies. I've been a huge fan since hearing. Ag on trump cast in two thousand eighteen during the pandemic. The daily beans has been my go-to podcasts for the news. And i always look forward to the confessions and the good news. Well today. i've got some of my own good news to share. But let me give you a little background i. I'm a professional classical singer kit. I use yes. I used to spend anywhere from two to four weeks a month on the road. Traveling around the world singing with pro choral ensembles and doing concert. Soloist work crews that as us cova cases began to swell in mid march. My first gig was cancelled by april. First every gig for the foreseeable future has been suspended or cancelled by june experts. Were projecting that our industry would likely not return to normal until twenty twenty three at the earliest. This was devastating. His was on so many levels. I felt like a career. I had worked so hard to cultivate and import my heart and soul into was over in a heartbeat over the summer. I participated in occasional online video project with those projects. Were usually more frustrating than satisfying paid very little in august. I got an email that one of the on sambas icing with wanted to do a bubble style project. I i was going to turn it down. I mean doing a gig with eighteen singers during pandemic or the crazy. Their safety protocols looked adequate. But how do you enforce the rules. And do i trust the other singers to follow them. I decided to risk it. Going off. Of what i know about my kind singers tend to be extra illness. Adverse djerma foes during normal time let alone a pandemic yet. Last time i checked lung damage is not on any singers wishlist. The riskiest part of the trip would likely have been the travel and boy was i write. The airports were full of unmasked idiots and busy enough. That social distancing was pretty much impossible. Also why are the airlines. Still serving snacks on the plane. Can we not give people a reason to take off their masks. When we're sandwiched in like sardines in a middle to being flown across the continent. I agree flung excuse me flung across the continent. I think we made it to boston from boston to tucson safely. After ten days of quarantine multiple brain pokes i was able to spend four glorious weeks doing my favorite superspreader activity in two thousand eight days. We performed twenty two outdoor socially distance concerts and recorded for different concert programs to be streamed online some of my favorite moments included writing postcards to voters with my fellow singers on our rehearsal. Breaks listening to the daily beans with my roommates on our long drives to phoenix for recording sessions. Where we'd flip the bird and yell fuck you at any driver. Sporting news gross obnoxious trump flags which was unfortunately a regular occurrence and hosting a bavarian themed. Dinner party for my fellow singers since new contact with anyone. Outside of our bubble it was amazing to be able to let down her hair. And pretend for one night we are back to normal times drinking and eating together and saying goodbye with a hug however the best moment of all came three weeks in on three weeks in on one day were recorded. Handel's messiah cut. That's a hard one on our way to phoenix. We heard the good news. That biden had one. I've never sung the hallelujah chorus more joyfully. If you have any handle fans out there or anyone generally interested in supporting the arts have included a link to the concert video below which just dropped this weekend. It's available through christmas december twenty fifth. The link will be in the listener links portion of the newsletter. And you will. You will get to hear the most joyous honolulu louis chorus everson. Wow that's so great. I remember doing community choir of korla on sambol winners. We did a we handel's messiah. I sang soprano. I murdered my voice that you have video evidence. I wanna hear this or tape or something. No no no evidence. I'm sure someone can dig it up. Some of our internet slew. The ins can figure it out. But that's the That's the beauty of being an alto. Is that you can sing. Soprano and i was like i'm going to give it. A shot. seems hard it it was yes but you know but what the at least soprano you can sing along to the melody. Most of the time i feel like auto parts are always harder because you have to sing harmony and if you're not you don't have a great year then that that can be hard. Yeah or if you don't rem use it yeah it can be true But this is so great. I love this and it's perfect for the holiday season and for tax. She sent her cockatiel punch. Oh an avid mozart fan brownie points to anyone who could name the tune and we'll have that link in the letter to so thank you so much. What a great story. What what wonderful news. I love that. I would love. Love love to hear kim saying with her fellow. Choir mates okay next step. Anonymous pronounced him. Dear beings queens so excited to finally right into the podcast. I live in toronto canada and have been working for my country's top national news broadcaster as a graphic designer. I started five years ago just before trump was elected and made it a goal of mine to stay until the cheeto was removed from office. Oh man it has been a long grueling period to say the least. I understand the emotional and mental stress. You all go through each day and your crusade to keep the public armed with accurate and truthful information you all deserve nobel peace prize or a pulitzer to say the least. I began searching for new job knowing that the big baby was going to be voted out and i'm happy to announce that i recently found one. I will begin teaching fulltime woo as a college professor at a school at the school. I graduated from and i couldn't be happier. I feel proud knowing that. I've done my best to keep my country. Well informed. thanks to the pod always been able to point out very detailed specific facts. Some of my colleagues have missed when reporting on american politics and gained some respect from the writers. I will do my best to take the enthusiasm you all. You've all instilled in your listeners. Each day and bring that forward to my classroom. Lord knows i'm going to be a very dramatic and outgoing teacher. Incredulous that good job call. Congratulations and thank you for sticking by. Yes so i've often thought about teaching. Oh you'd be a great teacher. You'd be the cool teacher teaching some college. I'd be like all right fucking. Listen you ready for this shit feelings you're syllable like in your syllabus. There will be like a mandatory like a requirement of at least five bucks per paper. Yeah and also. I would put easter eggs in the syllabus. Just to make sure people would read it. That's the problem here. That's you're like no pants. fridays. How's that i'm good for an pants. Fridays especially at zoom. I mean you know. Why not. I i remember i thought for my My oral dissertation defense. I was on vacation in. Hawaii was the only time they could schedule my My gosh and up top. I had a suit on. But on the bottom i had a bikini bottom in a rainbow to two and like gogo like blue glitter gogo boots up to my thighs and so that was my way. I had to give you so much confidence like truly that would just make you feel so. It's already said to like nerve wracking but also like exciting moment and you just. I'm fooling all the y'all bitches if you only do you have any questions about the physical at the department of veterans affairs and lawyer. Do you love it. Especially since one of my data sets was corrupt so i couldn't have any findings so it was pretty. There's just no findings. Sorry sorry thank you want to see my booth. Look these are my boots from power girl costume at comecon. Eat it all right. Next up from lauren pronouns. She and her hello lovely ladies. This is good news. Follow up a few weeks ago. Potentially seven years ago. Time as we right now i rode my puppy got attacked and almost died but miraculously survived. Well update he not only survived. But he's doing so well and almost back to normal less than two months after the attack is a lot of scars. But his hair's growing back in most places and you know what covers up scars and areas. Where hair hasn't come back. Why a wonderful christmas sweater. Which is exactly what he wore in his holiday pixar's and every day since because he growls at me if i tried to take it off. Oh he loves it. So attached are his very handsome holiday photos for your enjoyment. He looks like someone in a hostage video. But i swear he had fun. Maybe peed on the fake snow. Look at his face. He actually looks really happy. I think in all my god the one in the box the last one. It's too cute. Oh my guy there's ice overload an adorable little toes you'd be. I'm so glad that he's doing well. And what i love about. It is. he's like this. Is my armor like my christmas sweater. It makes me warm and like i feel more competent in it and i just totally by being. I love how i love it. We growls when you try to take them. And i can hear the little time. The smaller dog ground. I used to have this pekinese. And we'll try to take me toy away from him he would snort ming. It was just adorable. It does eyeballs that. Go like three hundred sixty degrees around. Oh my gosh well. That's super cute love it. Thanks for sharing that. The next one is from sherry pronouns. She her and thanks for the thoughtful discussion on pronounce sherry rights. Greetings so much good news i. I have become a patron saint sagan muslim second. The two tiny kittens we adopted this summer are now well on their way to becoming full outhouse tears and are perfecting their christmas tree scaling skills but most importantly this weekend my husband will be bringing his mom from florida to are huge new us old house in kansas. I know topeka hasn't been so bad and we were informed yesterday that we had an offer on our old place in south carolina so we will all be together this christmas for which. I am very grateful. My pet tax is attached leonardo antonio two of the eight indoor and four outdoor cats in my life and my standard poodles zeus ten years old and apollo two years old being just them. Apollo is the grey blue dog. That's tony snuggling with zeus on the couch. Thanks so much for making twenty twenty much less horrible with your wits. Laughs generous spirit and solid information. I i have so many questions. Okay cat in a tree. I know twelve cats. I have so many. Because she provide the dozen right to rather dozen. Then there's zeus there and then and then and oh my sitting on top of the other poodle see. That's the energy i want. Oh the red velvet blanket. Oh yeah on the two orange kitties eight wait. I have a question cats. And i guess i have one every week now because unfortunately i'm highly allergic to cats and makes so sad getting allergy shots. Hopefully in five years i cannot have a cat but until then so what. What designates an outdoor cat versus an indoor cat. How do you make that decision or is it a situation where maybe the outdoor cats were already outdoor cat and you sort of adopted them by feeding them. What's the deal yet. And sometimes they sneak out and then come home. Okay yeah mostly you know. Usually it's best even if you are adopting a cat. That was once an outdoor cat to just have indoor cats. Because they don't get the fleas and stuff or they they are in danger of ever getting hit by a car or being out in the city or if you live by a canyon. There's coyotes so it really depends on where you live and and you know if the cat can handle themselves or you know. 'cause we have i have the two one of them's fully. Endorse the other ones indoor outdoor but when goes outside he only hangs out in the backyard. So it's cool. He doesn't go far. Oh gotcha okay. Okay okay man. Cats are very complicated. Animals and i love that about them i are. They're very weird. Oh guess what. It's time for court. Oh my god yes. There are two cases on the docket today. Petty grievances i. This is a rewrite in from john he him and jade she. Her comedian in response to your order for the court's consideration. Last message i left on the wall with the hair was i love john. I i'd show you pictures. But i liked it. Amy as part of the show. And i kind of wanted to keep coming back on friday so it will sponsor is instead. I will submit the best picture ever Totally not trying to bribe the court. These are my pet ferrets. Princess up puts us buttercup and petunia every year. I take glorious picture to hand out for white elephant gifts shirts mugs posters etc since holiday. Parties aren't happening this year. Thanks obama consider this to be my white elephant gift to your listeners. Wait this is very very good. Complicates matters. it really complicates things for me so she so we had last week. We had a case Between john and john was Filing suit because his wife was spelling things on the shower walls with her hair. That has come out as she washed it here. Amy almost barbed. I don't have a problem with the hair. I in fact. I actually put in a minute. Order requiring that they tell me what they're writing on the wall with said hair. Because i think that that's very important to the case now that we know it's i love john. How do you rule amy. Okay look can. I can i. Can i bring in some my ex catholic good catholic church goer expertise here. I wanna say the thing that disturbs me. The most was not the writing. It was the fact that there have been a pile of hair that that had been left for a very long time and that to me is a gorgeous degree. Just thing in the corner. That i can't even think about too long. So how about the. I'm going to do a crossover thing. Where i'm going to say you're gonna. You can be forgiven. But you have to do a penance penance. Is you have to clean or at least wash the hair that you leave behind down the drain for just seven days straight and see if it's a habit that you can keep up for a while. And then when. John gets a little noddy again. You can start leaving it. But i'm just saying let's just try it like let's try. Let's try it and see what happens. All right it's so ordered gavel. And i think i think that's a good ruling. Now we had a discussion of tub shrooms also which i purchased but not yet installed and somebody put out on twitter. Like okay It's christmas in. You have to give me the gift of the last thing you purchased and i responded a tub showroom and tag upstream on twitter because they have a twitter account and there were so many people who responded you. That's from the thread in the group about the hair in the shower. And i was like yes. Yes it is love that that's really. That's really great. I want to know more about this room when you when you pull it out. Does it have all the hair that has been caught in or does it somehow like dissolve it into like like really goes chinese venus trap that just you don't have to deal with it no you do have to pull it out and clean it. Clean the hair out of the room. Yeah it doesn't truly. I would rather remove my diva cup fifty times in a row. Okay what if he accidentally used a tub room instead of a diva. Oh that's too much okay. We have to go on requests from an injunctive relief from petty court from petticoat junction. Is it pleases the court plaintiff. Jane sneezy dough if it was the court plaintiff jane sneezy doe defendant. John bless you satan effects. I love this guy. We live together and are very simpatico in a lot of ways the ways that really matter anyway he does this. Oh he just do this. One thing that i need the court to weigh in on though he will not let me finish a sneeze. Oh god if he is around and here's winding up to let one out he says bless you and and the need to sneezes gone every damn time. It is thoroughly frustrating. And don't get the temporary for you from releasing good sneezed. He tells me he wants to stop but he can't. It's like a reflects for him am asking the court. The court requires some sort of deterrent or diversion program for the defendant or i may explode from the knees i have the perfect solution Yeah i have. Some thoughts are just too. I feel like maybe we have the same solution right me. Because first of all this is a crime. Obstruction of a sneeze is is a crime and you know i used to play. Used to play this game with my sister when we were kids. We go horseback riding a we were because we would teach horseback riding a camp every summer and you ride past pine tree or a coniferous tree you grab a couple of pine tree pine needles and we would take a pine needle in in between in each hand. Right in grabbed grasped Between the index finger and the thumb in each shove them up our noses until until one of us sneezed i. It was a sneeze who could sneeze the fastest contest and we were sitting like with our eyes watering. And then somebody would sneeze and we. You can also do this with napkins. Twist the ends and two points. If you ask these sneeze race yes and you can do this. With covert tests as it. Were to have gone many of them in canada. I can tell you. I sneezed every time. But here's the thing here. And i really believe this. I think that sneezes like an eighth of an orgasm and if you're partner will not let you finish the sneeze. The only thing that is acceptable as a deterrent is. I'm just saying you wanna you wanna finish in other ways you gotta let me sneeze paint a picture for just saying you know what i mean have to actually do it but i think you can explain. Yes so i think next time. They're having sex. Yeah yes right before. He's about to climax you. Just say you or say or say grandma or like his mother's baseball barbara. Oh god he'll never do it again but bless you would just be so much bless you would be so just it would it. Would it would really drive home the point it really would it really would. And it's a little more chic than saying your mom's name. Yeah and then just file your nails. She's she'll just keep like a nail file like behind one of the pillows surf matt. I'm sorry nail file nail file. Did i prevent you from finishing me. Yeah i really think that this is. This is the only way to get him to let you finish your sneezes because and they're important. I think it's the way it's not only the way that your nose gets rid of debris but also i just feel like it's your body reminds me like hey man we're capable of release. You know yeah i remember. I was dating this guy For a while. Who played dungeons. And i do now and i did then so you know. No shame in. He was way into it. Is doing this table top game. I come over to his house. And he's like just have watch watch red versus blue for a while while we finish our final battle. And i was like okay and he leaves the room and then comes back rolling out some speakers and then he play. And it's the music from the battle between kirk and spock when spock's going through kona far in the episode amok time in the original series like don don don don don don don don and i'm like baby. What the fuck are you do in this battle music. This is my battle music. So i'm like okay. Bill filed that nugget away in my head. Yup cut to a couple of weeks later. We're making love. And he well. We're about to. And i say hang on hang on and i roll the speakers in and i start and i hit play and it's eye of the tiger by survivor. You know dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. I start doing this sexy dance. And he's like what are you doing. This isn't this love michigan music battle music baby and he left. Oh my god that is. That's how i don't know. What movie was i still don't. I can't remember but there was a movie in which the characters were going to have sex for the first time and it was supposed to be this really romantic thing. And the guy puts on the song from the music man the seventy s extra moans parade and. They have sex of that song. And like i'm just saying like it's really funny whip would come in any kind of mood so hey to each their own. Maybe he's out there making love to his battle music with his with a fellow Dnd lover. I don't know dan really okay. Anyway thank you for sending in a good news stories. This was a great walk down memory lane. I must say and yes you. You've got your We've we dealt out some penance. We made some judgments. We gavelled in decision we've declared obstruction of sneeze. And you have you. You have a new idea on how to stop it. So take take that fourth jane Try that let us know. Yeah you know. Take to call us in the morning. Let us know how it works. We're mixing metaphors here but got to throw everything at this problem. This relationship will be salvaged. We will we will save it for you to. There are often all right. That's the only final thoughts before we get out of here. Amy no other than to say that frigging. The food in. Honolulu is already. I did like a tight five with ag about how good the food is here. But i'm just saying if anyone's around you know get leonard's doughnuts. Portuguese donuts had them today for an after lunch of snack slash desert. They're really delicious. I you know. I don't know i feel like i should include. Maybe i'll just text you a list of all the restaurants. I've been turned you can put in the newsletter. Just in case people want to book travel also international travel for next summer soups cheap. Right now for anybody that needs to hear it interesting. Good to know all right. Good thank you very mahalo to you. And lana may the spirit of the islands be with you. Aloha hello aloha aloha we. You just real quick well okay. So we'll take albert obviously the worst One time my husband just like out of just to troll like tweeted her aloha asshole and she re tweeted him. Enro- aloha reminds me of reminds me of when i tweeted popadopoulos. It's popadopoulos said something about you. Know i don't know how he set up or whatever and i just re tweeted him. I tweeted him and said isn't it time for some coffee. And then he quote with a picture him drinking coffee. Well yes it is pretty funny. I love it when he chose someone and they're not even they don't even take it personally. It's kind of great awesome. All right everybody will see at the happy hour If you're a patron if not become a patron it's so much fun and until when we meet again monday morning please take care of herself sick every other. Take care of the planet and take care of your mental health. I've been ag. And amy guerrero. Them's the beans the daily beans executive produced and directed by ag. and jordan. 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