35 Burst results for "Point Guard"
Tacko Fall, Cavaliers Agree to One-Year Deal
"Into taco fall. Has a home. For some reason it's the Cleveland Cavaliers. Yeah. That's the part that doesn't make sense. And that is clearly the big news of the day. That's so Bucky's buckle up. This is probably going to be what two, three hour long episode. We're break down tacos fit in Cleveland. I assume they brought him in to run point guard. Alongside a mobly and marketing and Jared Allen and they gotta have another big guy floater. Kevin Love. Throw him out there, right? No, Kevin Love, there it is perfect. Wheel them out. Yeah, Kevin Love probably played a three Mark and play the two point taco. Yeah, no, yeah, I mean, since we're talking about it, I don't get it. I don't understand it. I hope he makes the team. I was talking nothing but the best he is. One of my favorite people I've covered both at UCF down the road for me here in Orlando as well as with the Celtics. So I hope he makes it, but my guess is this is probably a camp thing and then he'll be playing for the I don't even know if they're still in can. They might not be, but the charge of the geo calves,
Lakers Work Out Isaiah Thomas, Others in Search for More Depth
"Haynes. The Lakers recently worked out veteran guards Isaiah Thomas, Darren Collison. And Mike James, which point guard you believe would fit in best with the Lakers squad. I mean, I'll just throw a dart. It wouldn't be my James. I don't think Isaiah Thomas is a great story, but I would say Collison Probably based on size. Ah, a little defensive prowess age. I don't know. Yeah, kind of knows. Um, I mean, Mike James was the shooter saying, Do you want to go to the problem? If you're a girl go with Santa is to get you know either of them If if, because you missed that come up. I never laugh at that. This is because I wasn't. I'm trying to think about my game. I liked Mike James last year. He was actually pretty. He was. He was funny. That's your answer. I'm going to say, Mike game, all right. Let's see here.
Los Angeles Lakers Pair LeBron and Russ. Will It Work?
"I wanted to zoom out and go over the big picture landscape with someone who talks on our airwaves every day about the nba. Dhs is favourite league. I think the one. And only the greatest showman in show business and tv for espn stephen smith. Our you sub man. How you doing man glad to finally be here. I'm thrilled to make it happen. You are out in la. So let's start there you talked. I was listening to you on. I take a few days ago. Talking about russell. Westbrook in the amount of pressure that's on russell westbrook. But tell me about you know how. How do you think he fits. Lebron how what are you looking for him. How does he have to changes game or does he have to change his game. Well listen. I think i think both have to modify to some degree. Lebron can't be as ball dominant as as he has been off making all the decisions. Because that's one of the reasons rusting wanna be in houston anymore as you. Well know Because he didn't want to be you know sitting on the sidelines. Playing the role of spectator being on the plane and roller spectator watching james audit. Well that's not gonna change lebron james. He's happy to be back home. He's happy to be la. He's happy to be on a title contender which he is on. We get all of that But in the end he still russell westbrook in you know credit to him. You know like. I told you we've had to be. We've all had to be critical of him at times. What we know that. He's an electrifying talent. The most athletic point guard we've ever seen in nba history. We know he's a walk in triple double and we also know. He never cheat to game with his effort when he's out on a court it's always one hundred percent and so when you look at the slow. Almost snail like pace that the lakers could could. Could you know what wouldn't prone to plan towards playing at at tom's in the past and now you've got somebody like russell westbrook all of a sudden and lebron having a night off. Ad having a night off isn't as daunting as it was the previous two years. I think that helps them during the regular season. And then i think once the postseason comes whatever it takes to win is what i think the character in russell westbrook and lebron james will do.
Chicago Bulls Sign Alex Caruso to 4-Year, $37 Million Deal
"Awoke with more information. Now a different point guard coming back to the Chicago Bulls for Asian Guard Alex Caruso has agreed to a four year $37 million deal with the Chicago Bulls. His agent, Greg Lawrence. Wasserman tells ESPN so Lonzo Ball and Alex Caruso are back together again on the same team. They played together for the Lakers. The quick synopsis on Alex Caruso is he is one of the best. Guards defensively in the entire league. So the Bulls are getting a guy who can mix in with Kobe White, Zach Lavine Lonzo Ball some length with Lonzo and Zach Lavine, but also, Caruso is known as a very good defensive player. We'll see how he fits in.
Detroit Pistons Grab Cade Cunningham at No. 1 in NBA Draft
"The Detroit Pistons made Oklahoma state point guard Cade Cunningham the first pick of the NBA draft the six day coming in with the big twelve player of the year as a freshman averaging twenty points a game the Houston Rockets followed by selecting guard Jaelyn Greene became the first player drafted that high street out of the G. league U. S. C. big man Evan bubbly then went third to the Cleveland Cavaliers fall by Florida's the fourth Scottie Barnes in the surprise of the Toronto raptors Gonzaga point guard Jalen Suggs was then scooped up number five by Orlando who also took Michigan's Franz Wagner eighth I'm Tom Mariam
What's on the Line for Chris Paul's Legacy?
"You know this. This series started out very well for the sun's up to all look like they were going to go from bubble darlings to title team in a year. I don't have to refresh your memory. it's you remember that probably yonathan. The vox i've turned upside down and for c. p. three it might mean coming up short one more time in the playoffs. Not grade list to be on here c. p. threes teams have had multi game series leads four times in the post season. Only to watch those leads. Slip away. Chris broussard what is on the line night in game. Six for chris paul. There's a lot on the line and obviously the championship but for him personally of is individual legacy yes. There is a lot on the line he would become. If they lose this series he would become the only player to lose four series in the postseason. Where you lead to. Oh okay anna. Point guard is in control of the game of his team. So a lot of that just falls on the coach. It can fall on the point guard. So we've talked about some christmas failures in the past and the postseason if he loses this series those become their a big part of his story. And when you talk about why he's one of the greatest players with barkley malone and you eat in stockton to never win a championship you look at. It and chris is a big part of why he didn't win the championship. Conversely if he can come back and win this series. Those playoff foibles. Become a footnote okay. They go from being a year. He's great but to just be enough small footnote in his overall story. So that is the first thing. Secondly if he wins this series he could become the third player. Only the third player in the seventy four year. History the third small player or normal size point guard to lead a team to an nba title.
Chris Paul Leads Suns Past Clippers 130-103, Into NBA Finals
"Phoenix is Chris Paul scored forty one points in the sun's one thirty one oh three blowout win over the clippers earning Paul his first trip to the NBA finals in his sixteen year career teammate Devin Booker who scored twenty two in the game six clincher says he's thrilled about the all star point guard finally gets a shot at the championship I'm always happy about this first first on but you know I know what he's on the pursuit of ten you know we have the same understanding we don't talk about it much but we know we're trying to get to their son's left made it to the NBA finals back in nineteen ninety three mark Myers Los Angeles
L.A. Is Rumored to Be Nets’ Spencer Dinwiddie’s Preferred Destination
"Dinwiddie, who missed almost all the season tours. A CL is interested in signing with the Clippers this offseason now believe he's got a $12 million out that with the Nets, which you'll undeniably exercise, you're gonna get a few bucks. The Clippers will be well above the salary cap next year. But there are some maneuvers that they can do to make the move work out. How valuable is a guy like then what he next season, especially coming off the injury? I think he's highly valuable. I think you'll get them because of the injury about 85, cents all the dollar It's not the injury. It's not an injury where There's such trepidation like, Oh, nobody comes back from this. It's a pretty straightforward recovery. One blast through it If you're diligent, so he'll be fine. I think he might be a little rusty and a little little hesitant and reluctant again, trusting his body like burrow. At the start. But if you get him on 80 cents on the dollar, you might have a guy who was really the second half of the season and the playoffs. Then would he can help you? I like Spencer, and I think he'll be. I think he'll be healthier sooner rather than later BTS. Let's not forget. He almost tried to like play in the postseason. They got her very early, right. So, um, I think he's fantastic. Especially coming off the bench. You need a, you know, an extra point guard a guy who can handle and score. He's that guy.
Chris Paul Listed as Probable for Suns in Game 3
"Say there is a probability point guard Chris Paul will be able to play in Game three of the Western Conference finals tomorrow night against the Clippers. Paul has passed the cardiac test, which is the final step in his return, barring any setbacks. Paul spent the last week in Covid 19 safety protocols after testing positive for coronavirus. Wildfire Dangerous prompted closures of
NCAA President Pushing for NIL Action Before or Near July 1
"Major rule. Change could be coming soon from the nc double a. allowing college athletes to profit financially while they compete and that could drastically change the playing field. Here's abc's faith booby tonight. A significant step closer to what many college athletes have demanded for years excited. It's long overdue for players like iowa. Point guard joe bohannon. It's the opportunity to make money when third parties use their names and images. Mark emmer president of the ncaa would recommend college sports governing bodies. And that's a rule change by july first allowing just that as first reported by the new york times the ncaa has been dragging its feet for decades with division one sports bringing in an estimated eight point five billion dollars a year. The ncaa has barred compensation for players. Other than scholarships and educational stipends a policy bohannon and other players have pushed back against this year around the hashtag. Ncaa property majority of athletes are minority and most of this revenue. That's being brought in by. These athletes is being redistributed to the coaches and the head administrations in these athletic programs. The fact that data's haven't been able to see any of this money is civil rights issue and went also driving the ncaa in this is the fact that many state legislatures have already passed or are considering laws that would allow student athletes to cash in on their talent and popularity
Westbrook Ties Robertson's Record, Wizards Beat Pacers
"Point guard Russell Westbrook is tying one of the all time greats. He recorded his 181st career triple double Saturday in the Wizards win against the Indiana Pacers with 33 points, 19 rebounds and 15 assists The feet ties Hall of Famer Oscar Robertson for the most in NBA history in
"point guard" Discussed on The No Chill Podcast
"I'm going to have the c. p. are you thinking this is your official okay. Curry russ curry wrestling. I may see. That's why i say kyrie's tricky see. That's what i say like kyrie's kyri tricky because in this moment in time. He is the most skillful offensively out of all of them. Like i. i mean no matter. You know curry getting a shot off by westbrook. Just gets the basket at will Gets on numbers dame range. His his precision has deadly. You know mindset of the ended a game. Kyri is just a whole different breed. So it's really it's it's it's it's really hard because it's you can't keep them out of the top five at all you when it comes to darts he is the guard. You know what i mean. He he is the guard but the only reason that if you do leave them off you only leaving them off. Because chris paul still here and lebron is still here sitting on sixteen years and eighteen years. You know what i mean so you gotta give the respect still those guys who put in that work in. They're still here. they're still relevant to the game. And you're also saying that. What chris paul has done more with less. But we're not. We're not judging it like time for time. You know what i mean. We're not saying all right the top five this year. I mean we're not we're not doing it. We're saying the top five current so when you say current you have to you have to like lebron's career eighteen years you know you have Cpt's so yeah. He might not be averaged. The system but his stats. His game still applies to today. So it's it's it's kyrie sitting there all right bunny. I'll just goes so. I can be number one or two because his like and that's the problem. That's the problem with it because you got that guy who is in the top five but because people still finishing their careers. You can't take him out of it because you said active activist active. And then you keep going. Ben simmons. John wall wall wall..
"point guard" Discussed on The No Chill Podcast
"I think they played the game. No wait a seat. You know Point gars back then were flashy. Bearing davis was flashy mugabe was flashy. Steve nashes was flashing so it seemed like to be successful at the point guard position. They held so much responsibility on the point guard position. When the point guard position actually didn't win championships. it didn't win championships like you be in. John stockton dies in that position. You didn't win. you just didn't win. It showed that the shooting guard or the center in your point guard as a defender or he hits open shots that one so you had the magic era where everyone say. Oh shit we need the point guard. That can get our team going. Not saying he's different. No one paid attention to what phil jackson was doing phil. Jackson didn't have a pure point guard. Ron harper who averaged twenty was as guard in. Like ron decided. I'm gonna just play defense and figure this out. I mean yeah steve kerr who was shooter you know so he showed you gotta remember how many championships ten that means in. The last thirty years tended to championships. Look at the guards that me will. He also had the two best players. But what i'm saying. Look at the garden. Look at the person. We're calling point guards on that team. Brian shot. You're averaging one point you averaged one assists a game to assist the game. And i mean so and then you gotta take the houston to kenny anderson. Smith jamie kennedy smith ca sell. It means so when you say point guards win championship history. Says i didn't say that but i do. I'm going to say right now. We'll talk about the eighties. The guy that actually would.
Randle Leads Knicks Over Lakers and Back Above .500
"Former Lakers Julius Randle at the next one eleven ninety six victory over the LA Lakers Randle scored thirty four points and pulled down ten rebounds to lead Yorkshire third straight win in the last four nights this one against the defending champs who played again without the injured lebron James Anthony Davis who's who's always going through the emotions in the last two games of the plan well you know beach Ronald blubber control arm it's always a feel good when point guard Elfrid Payton scored twenty points was backup Derrick rose added fourteen the next only billion defense forced twenty four Laker turnovers and held only to forty points over the second and third quarters when they took command of the game Dennis Schroder scored twenty one points to top Los Angeles I'm Tom Mariam
Williamson scores 37 points, Pelicans beat 76ers 101-94
"The seventy Sixers are full game behind the nets for first place in the Eastern Conference following Philadelphia's one oh one ninety four lost at New Orleans Zion Williamson scored fourteen of his thirty seven points in the fourth quarter Williamson was fifteen of twenty eight from the field and added fifteen rebounds and eight assists he did it while shuttling between the power forward to point guard positions my stepfather trainee to your point guard so I was just like normal I mean it was just being having the opportunity to go ashore so I was Brandon Ingram added seventeen points but shot just five of twenty one in his first game back since missing five with a right foot injury Jo Ellan beat had scored fifty nine points in two games since returning from injury but he provided just fourteen on five of sixteen shooting in this one I'm Dave Ferrie
The Promise That Led Brandon Staley Into Coaching
"Daniel during his introductory press conference spec in january. We really got a sense. For what a true football nut brandon staley is. This is all i've ever wanted to do since i was a little kid. I started drinking coffee in the first grade and reading the sports vase. Because i wanted to be here doing this job. i do. You think he was being serious about that coffee in the first grade thing. Oh absolutely jason actually specifically mentioned that in my interview saying that he was doing that in the first grade coffee reading the sports section with his dad but he said it actually wasn't because he was a sports not it's because he wanted to be his father and admired him so deeply that he wanted to sit in the chair and drink coffee and read the sports page. Exactly like his dad did which i think. A lot of sons can relate to trying to mimic your father. But i thought that was sort of an interesting twist on it because when you first heard brandon say it it was oh he was obsessed with sports because i was reading the sports section in the first grade but it really was because he admired his father. Well daniel you. Recently wrote about brandon staley's path to becoming the chargers coach and stem from the loss of his mother and from his relationship with his twin brother. Jason i can just tell us a little about the relationship between brandon and jason. Yeah best friends is how i would describe it. And pretty much inseparable from birth to really good athletes in high school. And i think the way jason described it was from the outside looking in people. Thought there might be some animosity. Just because brandon was always the better athlete brandon. Was the point guard on the basketball team. Brandon was the star quarterback and jason sorta played second fiddle. But the way jason described. It was never liked that our relationship people really it was kind of it was like competitive between twins and yeah certainly working at it but always telling me and him against everybody
2021 College Basketball Bracketology With Jay Bilas
"Feels like you might be the busiest man in america right now. So thank you for making some time for me man. I appreciate it but busiest mannered. America's this is the best time of year. So i'm happy to be busy. Jay bilas is literally and figuratively towering. Figure in the world of college basketball so it is about nine forty five pm eastern on selection sunday. You've been on tv all day. I've seen you offering wisdom's. I've seen you gas bagging as you yourself from time and again i'm curious jay. How long does it take you to fill out your bracket while we have to do it in about two minutes one. We're on the air during this brattle. G selection show. So i it's sort of the the first thoughts that you have and and you wind up picking an upset or to In each region in the first couple of days. But then i wind up going pretty chalky after that and And then i'll i write an article called the more than five minute bracket where i think about it for more than a couple of minutes and And i don't do any better. So i'm not sure that my My first instincts aren't are just as good well. I'm glad to get you somewhere between the first and second drafts of history. Because i'm staring at an empty bracket you have hastily filled out yours and i want to get into this because we have the top four seeds gonzaga baylor illinois michigan their top lining the four geographic regions jay. That aren't really geographic regions this year. Because everybody's gonna be crammed into indianapolis in something that feels bubble like is there one team among those four top seeds. That seems feels the most vulnerable to you. Yeah michigan Because of isaiah livers You don't know what this stress reaction and his foot whether he's gonna play and if he does play whether he's going to be the same. I mean machines a good team without him but they're elite offensively with him Because of how skilled he is He's a good passer. Good cutter good square. He's a terrific scorer but without him I think there are a lot more beatable if you will And they have a different. I i do think they have somewhat of a difficult path. alabama is the to in their region and And i think alabama has got a very good chance to to reach a final four What's what's the best thing. I think bobby for the the big ten teams as they're out of the big ten now and they don't have to they don't have to beat each other up and they can go take a swing at somebody else. And i think they're all gonna like that. So i wanna get into the alabama thing. You just mentioned it. They're sitting right below michigan as the two seed and jay. I'm still staggered by. I guess the following collection of words second-seeded alabama versus fifteen seeded. Rick pitino and iona. So let's take the first half of that matchup. I people know alabama obviously as a football institution the football institution. What they know about their basketball team. Yeah alabama is is really talented and really good This year in basketball. Their coach nate. Oats is a math guy. He is an analytic sky. So last year they shot ton of threes. He believes in free throws open threes and layups and And so they're not a lot of mid range shots taken But this year. They're they're excellent defensively. That may be the best part of their team is. They can really guard their long armed and athletic on the wings. They've got a player named herbert jones. who has always been a really good defender. He's six eight He's really kind of a point guard at six eight and he does everything. He's kind of a triple double type player and defensive player of the year. In the league in the sec. And the player of the year in the league And i think he makes them different. So they're legit. They could have been a one seed worthy of it but because of how good baylor gonzaga have been they were they were locks and then And then how. How good michigan wound up being and then illinois. I don't think anybody would argue with those four is number one seeds but alabama was the clear Fifth overall so the other
NCAA Tournament East Preview
"Welcome to coincide with greenberg dockage in the south bracket where the number one seed is. Bela number two seaters iowa states. Let's get right into it. John gallagher wild and i like john gallagher. Head coach at hartford neighborhood. Man the neighborhood who here west hartford the neighborhood as the ultimate philly guy. John gallagher is the ultimate dilly guy. I've already got the text from. I've spoken is tipped off banquet a year ago. The dude is certifiably insane in a good way. What he no one is going to enjoy the ncaa tournament more than it. So as soon as they won they immediately went to indianapolis and starts to quarantine and have experienced john. Enjoy it. we're gonna say nice things about you. You're a good guy. And ballard dance so nokes no trepidation about baylor's performance against oklahoma state. Oklahoma states really good people are losing their mind. What at at baylor games. They're playing in the big twelve. They're not planning west coast conference. You're playing in the big twelve. You're planning against other teams that have good players. You're gonna lose games all right. The next game is interesting. Opening round games wisconsin. Why i think he's just not right against north carolina who depending on the day is not right. I mean real simple carolina. You can take care of the ball. Are you gonna make your shot if you take care of the ball and at least get shots up. Then you have an advantage. Except that as we know wisconsin wisconsin's analytics over. Like if you just look at their analytics you would think they'd win every game. They don't give up second shots that will turn it over. They get pretty good shots but they don't play winning basketball. I know that sounds weird. But there's something not right. I think carolina find a way to win that game except the carolina. Jecklin hide reminds of this game. Would you like i like carolina. And this and i look whatever's happened to nate rivers whether it's kobe whether it's whatever it just hasn't been good. I expected more out of him. They don't run their stop nearly as well as they didn't pass they rely too much on one. And frankly they're not a one on one team. And you know what would those big garrison brooks bay. Come and all and bacon's and everybody else you can get into wisconsin. Guards make them drivers into traffic. I think this is a pretty good match up for north carolina. I just think they're better. And i think they're going to win the basketball game and i think they're going to win it fairly big. So if you wanna bet on a game this probably going to have tyke spread. That's gonna move it out a little bit. I think this is the game i think. North carolina wins by double digits. All right to winter is the sexy upset. eco nova plant without conquests. Be justin moore play the other day but wasn't good. They started the set a little bit. You know this is. This is a winter key. May play really fast. I've got a low post lower burns at play him about fifty minutes game. he's really productive. Obviously they got a very good camera. Badran the big six seven kind of point guard because they run the show through a tuck this about. They're extremely aggressive. Pat kelsey really likeable dude. Winter months play fast was gonna try to get into half court who you like. Well i i agree with everything you said. I think winter got a hell of a team. But if this was any other organization other than j j rights organization i would say the winthrop's gonna win the basketball game but you still have robinson hurl. You still have samuels. And if healthy justin moore. You've got three guys. You've got the best three guys on the court. And that always bodes. Well now the point guard situation okay. It is what it is. We all know that point guards at villanova stuff are important. It is the sexy. Pick the five twelve upset all that kind of stuff. But i'm not betting against jay wright and his organisation they just seem to overcome things that need to be overcome when they need to be overcome. I great i agree all right. So now this is an interesting north texas by gurus helmi north texas guards. The crap you absolutely flat can guard you an elite defensive team. They put great pressure notable they then eyeball reversal on play. Two man game with javon Handle it let the point guard and that they are really really good solid defensive team. They turn people over there really aggressive. But you've seen teams like that. Purdue doesn't beat themselves. You pretty has probably i i do. I think this is going to be right down to the wire south because what. I've talked to people today actually. Starting last night couple guys. I was surprised. North texas beat western kentucky. Not because i knew anything about no taxes. But because i saw western kentucky for three games and and they're really good athletic on the wing. Strong tough. I think what you said about the all of the defense bits. Dramatically bad against purdue get up into. They're not the quickest. Get shot team jay nineties really the only one that can i think this is going to be. I'm going to bet against purdue because i think produce offensive analytics put them in the top ten. But nobody's really pressured purdue nobody's really got into them and under wings. Don't take this game for granted. North texas is going to cover whatever the point spread is pretty wins. It the end. Are you got another big time. Texas tech utah state and utah state. Pounds that thing in pain name is cadence a big physical that play a four round. One run actually pretty good motion and so pretty good actions to me. The kid just being an interesting precedent. Don't shoot it as well as they happen to pass but they really defend the top five rebounding They're a very good offensive antiques. Keta against texas tech doesn't have a legitimate big tonight. I mean or cassette said
3 Reasons Why Big East is the Most Intriguing Basketball Tournament
"Is my real opinion. I think the big east tournament is the most intriguing one for for this reason. There's a handful of reason number. One villanova has no point guard now. Justin moore ankle the kospi's we just found out that justin. Moore's not going to be playing in this thing Twenty seven points per game between those two now. I mean the game from villanova as we know in the new iterations of the biggies has been dominant. They win the regular season. Big east tournament right over there still time and here still good enough to win at eight. So let's not get ahead of ourselves and count them out yet but it makes it a lot more interesting because it's like. Oh what house villanova congress because your best player yes. He's not playing. Yeah what what are the what's going to happen. They're seen hall saint john's. I'm looking at this game on thursday. That is like a. I don't know if it's a plan but it's play out for sure. Whoever loses that game doesn't that's intriguing creighton. The greg mcdermott situation. I hear you say loser leaves town man. That was really the we we know the greg mcdermott's situation they got bruin there but like they're they're they're working through. Whatever that is like xavier saver that is on the bubble. They'll they might be playing crates and crates trying to get some mo jo bags and butler had that one game against villanova where they realized life and then and then we get to the bottom of the bracket with yukon you. Let's be honest. Your own has slowly turned into the favorites and again this is not a companyman move. I know we have coach. Dan hurley on the show today but uconn in the you know the majority of the country it feels like they don't know who to look to to college basketball and therefore defacto we go to uconn right here. We are back in the big east for the first year. Back in madison square garden in the big eastern star seem to be a line if you're yukon though bula there
2021 Lottery NBA Mock Draft
"Tony. And i are going to do our first lottery. Mock draft of the year today. We're going to go back and forth. Selecting picks to put a draft order together. Midseason is really difficult. Especially if you've looked at the standings anytime lately and seen how bunch together so many of these teams are so i went to espn's basketball power index That list teams projected records to the season through a number of statistical factors. I think it's it's probably a better look. At where teams are going to be at the end of the season then necessarily their records right now and then based off of that we put together a draft order that obviously is going to change and obviously will be affected by the nba draft lottery where the top top three teams each have a fourteen percent chance of getting the top pick and so on as you know how the draft lottery works and so doing a mock draft. This time of season tough until really until the draft lotteries over. We don't really know the order but but we have some guesses now based off of where teams what teams have played. And what's going on right now and we're going to do our best to give you a are mock draft For the twenty twenty one season. First one we're just gonna cover the lottery and we're going to let tony how the first pick in the draft and based off of that. Espn bpi has the minnesota timberwolves projected to have the worst record in the league. Which is actually pretty good news for minnesota timberwolves fans because the timber wolves have to trade pick to the golden state warriors if this is pick four thirty and so the only way minnesota keeps this pick is if they fall into top three right now. If the season were tomorrow they'd have about a forty point. Seven percent chance of keeping this year's draft pick a falling the top three in the draft. So this is no guarantee from minnesota that they'll have the number one pick they all said the number one pick last year. Tony you're on the board. Who do you select if you're the timber. Wolves with the number one. Pick in the twenty twenty one nba draft. I select the I will not need three minutes to make the selection I'm selecting k. Cunningham six hundred seventy one hundred twenty point guard out of oklahoma state and so when you When you make your draft selections you do to you draft for two things you draft For value and you draft for need and this is both in pick antibi- you pick for for for the minnesota timberwolves number one. K cunningham is the best player draft You know. I think the gap is actually close Because you know. I think jonathan coachman gain in jalen green. You know both of those guys you look at them and they have some real special tools But that being said you know k. Cunningham is is still am. I is the most shore Most short superstar player in his draft. In and i think that's a compliment to how good distract is going to be especially in the top five But you know cunningham can score at all three levels. No he's sick. He's all seven all twenty. He's he's a natural point guard You know if you're minnesota you're trying to trace the ngelo russell Like as soon as possible In you know you put k. cunningham in the backcourt with anthony edwards who i think both of us can safely say it's better than we thought he would And i think that. That's obviously a backward for the future for the minnesota timberwolves in a really nice triumvirate with karl anthony towns so Definitely you know we all rights won't always talk about. We need some some of these number. One picks the go out east but you get the number one pick in another kind of generational prospect that comes to the western conference. I'm totaling till the agreement with you. Tony i think look. I don't think. I think there's five guys that can make a claim to the number one pick in this draft and so it's not like cunningham is a lock here but because of that i would put all of these players in the same tier and then when you look at what minnesota actually needs on their basketball team. Right now i think cunningham is just the right fit for this team as well and i i see him as a really nice compliment to karl anthony towns and to ant man right now and i think that this is this will be a huge boon for minnesota. If they get this pick and you know look everybody in minnesota has got gotta be crossing their fingers at this point Like you said if they fall out of the top three golden state gets this pick. And i think golden state already one that andrew wiggins dangelo russell trade as it is but if they end up getting you know the fourth or fifth pick in the draft does as as well. It's going to be an absolute massacre on that trade.
"point guard" Discussed on Dunc'd On Basketball Podcast
"His his Tulio gets after it and we. We saw what he did against Steph curry in the playoffs last year. But I just I'm just not all the way there yet on him as an offensive player and again one of those guys who is a lot better in certain circumstances than others and I wonder what his free agencies going to hold not only in terms of what his contract value is but what kind of a situation we get to see him in next year very well could be another run in Toronto. And they'll be great I I will. We're is but the I'm not as confident that that would work as some of the other guys which is why I left him down here but I feel a little badly about it. Yeah his forty-three percent shooting from two. It's a problem is considering I mean. His absolute bulldog mentality defensively. His strength deep. Three point shooting. I mean we did see him get overwhelmed. A little bit physically in that billy series. Although how much of that was just okay. He missed shots and that one and then he made shots in the buck series. That's tough to say. But he's a a proven playoff performer. At this time definitely a winning player. I just need like a little bit more juice as a ball handler to get him up there. With the the rest of these players they go all of those and have shown just more ability to get to the basket and to create their own offense certainly band bleak unfit in and everything. But this but he's getting to the point where you talk about it. It's like okay. If easier point guard now you need someone else to be the main guy. You need a Siaca you need a lowery against as in your starting lineup whereas Spencer Dinwiddie. If he's your point guard you can have an average offense with him as your main pick and roll and I don't think you can do that within fleet But he was certainly at the top of my solid starters tear which Was a mere four players. Actually got a lot of tears this time. Yeah I ended up folding to cheers together but there is functionally. I could have just made this two different ones so one guy. I'm surprised you haven't mentioned it. 'cause you're you've been a little higher on his season. I have is my commonly. So He's in this group to me of the solid starters. It's tough to make him. The hamstring injury kept him out a while the transition to Utah. I mean I think he's he looks okay to me still. I liked to see if he had more reps. Way would look like still if you if you just ran in back of the role that he had in Memphis defensively undersized these slip some there to be sure but he still tries still another great. Vat great character guy. You know I mean if you if you just look at how. He's handled this difficult season in Utah. I think it's pretty clear that that's the case that he can fit into a lot of surgery. So yeah I had him in the the seventeenth twenty group. Ricky Rubio was also there as he would have been lower for me before this last year. And he's just been a massive difference maker for the sons on both ends and just all the bullshit that he does the taking charge on a guy rolling to the basket after a pick and roll. I mean all all that crap which I absolutely can't stand watching between him Lowrey and Chris Paul. I mean there's those guys make like five plays a game where you're shaking your head but I mean God what I would give to see Chris. Paul do a rip through move right now though Daddy I we're we're desperate straits I talked to you. I talked to you about this on G. Chat I started watching draft film today and I was just. I just started beaming because it was like. Oh my God I'm watching. Actual basketball was so exciting. Us All go through so. I ended up while we were having this conversation. I realized that I should put this here and I ended up. Just moving the guys that I was Shakira. Just moved them down. It doesn't make that much difference so my group here. Vanfleet Conley Shea Rubio. We've already discussed all those guys the other two players. I have here Patrick. Beverley wonderful at the rule that the clippers have been but if you had to ask him to run the offense. I think it'd be a big problem. He's just he hasn't had to be that guy for a while but I also don't think he can be and then the last guy is and I wondered whether I should have them here a tier below but I thought this was more appropriate. Our good friend de Ngelo Russell. Yes so you mentioned beverly. I've got him no more in the twenty five to thirty five range as a low end. Starter I think big time concerns about his ability to stay healthy tree and You know he he and George Hill. I had kind of in the same group of the sugar will will table that for a little bit here. So I had by solid starters here which is seventeen to twenty and then I had the limited to offense here which was twenty one through twenty four and that was the Ngelo Russell. Derrick rose dragoj and Devante Grim. Those those were graduates. Rosengren worth three guys. That moved out of my my solid starter. Tear into the one blood. So that's Kinda creepy. We're just minded on that. I guess I didn't think you'd have drivers that high. I thought I was the only one who still believed. Yeah I mean the fact that he's like still wearing the knee brace and he seems Kinda Limited to twenty five minutes game like he and rose to me are very similar injury. Risk Kinda guys but really who are capable of doing a lot for you as a backup Point Guard. Who on a lot of teams there? There they'd be the best point guard they'd close games but maybe they don't start at four you just because you're trying to keep their minutes down. You're like frantically looking for an upgrade and just realize you can't find one yeah yeah and Russell Devante Gra- Russell just so so bad defensively. And maybe he's going to break out in Minnesota and the others each and defensive limitations bothered me but not as much as the idea that he only does certain things offensively and that and that he doesn't that once you get him outside of that comfort zone the not only his efficiency as a scorer but more importantly like he's just not as effective as a creator he's not generating as much tension. He's not creating the separation that makes his passing saying and we saw some of that for Golden State this year. Fortunately one tomorrow with the challenges available to play I think that the wolves will mascow out of that but again most teams. Don't have Karl Anthony Towns Center. Yeah and Russell. Yoi gets up a crazy number of three pointers ten point seven per thirty six minutes and he shoots thirty seven percent autumn. I am by contrast Damian. Lillard always actually thirty nine percent is here. That's that's nasty But shoots more three point attempt for thirty six minutes Damian Lillard and little careers about the same but Lillard just completely bend your deepens and in a way that Russell doesn't because they just feel like they can contain Russell he doesn't force you really doubles. Maybe if he's just absolutely on fire you might start double teaming him at the point of attack but I thought it was telling that for all of his individual fireworks that he the warriors really. Weren't that much better. Offensively with him on the floor and they had nobody else on the team for a large lurch portion of the year and they still. Weren't that much better when they didn't they didn't have other people like good people backing him up. It's not a circumstance like the sometimes they're those teams that have bad. Starters decent backups and then ends up being the starters like RPM and all that stuff gets tanked because they're playing against better teams. The worst didn't have anybody on their bench but their offense was still find. Find an upset. And it's it's become very clear. What a negative defensive player he is he is. He is one of the river much crappy. We're getting about that like two years ago So yeah I I feel comfortable was Russell in this group and this is why. I don't feel comfortable with them Max Contract so I didn't mention though one other player in my tears six of Salt Stars and that was John Wall I I put him at number twenty. I had him in the next year but I thought about putting him here. That was that was one of those complicated to replace guys and I will say this is. I've gone back and looked at it. I probably have overall rated some of these injury absence guys too high like last year in the center rankings. I had demarcus cousins still like number nine. And he coincidentally coming off a torn Achilles and wall though I mean he was still pretty good before he got hurt He is hard to build around though. Because you can go under on him. Pick and roll. He doesn't shoot it very well and he's got a lot of time to work on his shooting. Maybe that'll be slightly better but he doesn't shoot it very well so he can't replay off. The ball is defensive really slipped in my hope would be especially after so long off that he could come back and get his knees right as well. I mean that was a the health risk is too high. Yeah I mean I guess I'm GonNa move him down actually into the low end starter group. I think they're just too many question marks about in both in terms of performance and health so I'm hopeful that he'll be better than this. I mean the reality is probably either. You know he's GonNa be Kevin Average point guard or you're just going to be like not playing or just like absolutely terrible like I'd see it's going to be probably one of those things rather than that you know he's GonNa be like the twenty fifth starting point guard in basketball and just the right at that number but I'll split the difference between those my next year I would I called. It was high end rotation fringe starter. So yeah it was players that you probably rather have coming off your bench but because we're talking twenty to thirty three a lot of them do end up. Starting we've already gotten to drug rose Graham. Those John Wall. We've already talked about in this year. Biologist run through the rest of. I don't think we spend as much time on this group ones. Oh Ball devante. Murray Seth Curry George Hill Derek. Whyte Jalen Brunson Chris. Done Patty Mills. Yes Seth Curry was weird. I think even last year he might just need to be moved to shooting. Guard at this point We probably should have done that but I thought it was the appropriate place to put him enough. So yeah no I mean but he just. I keep basically played shooting guard last year in Portland. I mean he was the point guard in terms like who he was guarding. And he was the point-guard-size guy out there but I need basically is played only shooting guard this year for the mavs I think he played pretty much shooting. Guard offensively for the Blazers last year. So I think we should probably move him but I I guess if we gotta rank them that I would have in that group as well So what I think is still very underrated. It's me as Patty Mills. Oh absolutely like to me. In Papas. Never started him for whatever reason I don't know if he thinks he can't play that many minutes or he just has always liked him coming off the bench and.
"point guard" Discussed on Dunc'd On Basketball Podcast
"Early in this year was good. Yeah well I think a lot of that was health related to that was a factor to be sure so. Let me let me ask you this. Let's say he had played at the level that he played out the last two months all season. Would that have changed your your feelings. On things. He'd be cousy closer but I still don't think I'd have in there because it takes. It takes a lot to get into this top group and he's not as reliable and you talk about the white okay. How's it going to work at the higher levels? I mean Russell Westbrook yet maybe in this Houston system. It'll work in the playoffs but again remember. We're run. He doesn't get to play on his perfect system. If we're putting in the postseason his limitations are GonNA come to bear. That's what happens. Okay well let me ask you this. Let's let's just go through the teams here and let's see like how many teams do you think like he wouldn't work on right like in? Most teams have enough shooting at the other positions and they have a five. Who can't let's? Let's do it this way. Undergo through the guys in the tier that I have money. And let's see let's see where you have so not in the tier that you do because even now because I think those are pretty clear I mean. Is this not a useful exercise? It'd be good because I I want to see like but is is it really true that he doesn't fit anywhere right. Let me get a sample of teams. Okay Okay so Boston. Let's say you replaced Walker with him. I don't I don't think it works nearly as well. So Thomas is a good enough like ties to me is about the same as PJ talk then. He's he's taking possessions away. He's not he's taking in the half court he's taking possessions away from other guys. I think it makes it harder on Jason Tatum. I I think I think your best argument here is. It's he him being out. There makes life harder on your other perimeter creators. I that I buy more than the idea of what you have to have like that. It's so hard to find those. Those are well. That's that's like two parts of the same argument. I mean it's hard to fit it because you can't fight play because it makes life harder and you have to get better players. Do you see those different arguments than sure. Yeah I mean I do a little bit because it was. The thought was like Oh. It's only working because like Houston. Has this crazy system. And I think that's a Daniel Thais Lower Wayne dead bin or at or like John Collins. If you were playing center like throw them on the jazz jazz good team you replace whoever you want to of their garbage tape with Russell Westbrook. I don't think I don't think it makes them. He's he's a bust of Westbrook's obviously a good player but it it just it becomes it becomes a challenge and all the other every the jazz even headed. I think he'd be fine on the job. Okay 'cause 'cause they have shooting at all these other positions like they're one of the best spot up shooting teams. They don't have it at the five. Okay all right. They still have like. So you're GonNa pick and roll but then then Donovan Mitchell getting mersal so if you have to use Russell Westbrook in the primary action then that means Donovan Mitchell. Then you're not using on Mitchell to his best potential like you're choosing by putting Russell Westbrook. In these circumstances you're choosing to take possessions away from other guys who who. I would say are better uses of that than Russell Westbrook. Because it's the same argument you've made all these times against Ben Simmons that if you that when he doesn't have it it's a much bigger issue and so if he's not a part of the Russell Westbrook can score thirty points a game if you put them in the right situation we all know that about Bentsen's but but you get what I'm saying. Is that you you with teams. That have other talent. Your your sidelining that talent to give it to Russell Westbrook. And so that can he can be. He'd be that guy on a certain group teams absolutely but like I brought jazz like you. Would that work on the PELICANS? I don't think it would yeah. Obviously he would help some of the bottom teams in the League for sure. That's that's not part of this necessarily but like Denver once we get into the where this sort of stuff really starts to matter outside of the. Oh yeah he can help the Bulls a lot. Yeah absolutely of course. Yeah no I mean as you go through it okay so like Minnesota. He would really help them. Sure for sure that they need a guy like teams that need a guy like him would benefit Orlando sure even though their flaws he would be. He would give them juice. That they don't have yeah Phoenix. I think booker would be would it? Would it would be harder for booker but yet in the in the Internet. I think he would help I have. I have less Brooklyn above Ricky Rubio. So that's not that's not a big surprise. Yeah so so I mean it's a I do see your point there are he. He is the toughest but then I also think that you may be underrating. The magnitude of what he's able to accomplish in the right system maybe You know so. This is a good size. One of the more the livelier discussions we've had in a while And believe me if he were still playing the way that he was at the start of the year. I would have been right there with you. I would have had him like fifteen or something so I just like the run that he had. I just was giving that a lot of respect. I mean that that I thought was extremely impressive. So but one more quick thing like let's say we had done these rankings at the end of last playoffs so latte last year. You know they they they made. They lost the first round of Portland. So how much are you putting on for reference? Last year Russell Westbrook fifty percent shooting. He took seven point. Three hundred possessions made twenty nine percent of them. Okay so you got knocked out in the first round. He wasn't the best player in his own team. Where where where would you because because to me? If you're saying I get we were saying at the beginning of the euro you would but would he abandon this tier then because then you're on to two months into no. I know I know what you're saying but this is what I'm pushing. I think it's even more recently than that because I think that you wouldn't have had him near where you do right now at the end of last season's done it's just enough but he also had to have knee surgery at the end of last year. Too I mean I really thought like one of the things too is just a visual component. That I thought he'd really lost explosion and he was really struggling to finish at the rim and I thought that that has been something that's looked much much better and and I do like the transition element I think. He takes something off the court for other players in the half court but he brings it back on for them in transition. Which I think you know doesn't completely alleviate that All right we probably push into inside on this but Yeah so you guys Let us say we ever hire or too low interested to To crowdsource this one I have number six in tier three. And what are you you have and then in the next group of next eleven okay So that close out this group for me and we we talked about. Larry I think his his plug and play ability. I think he does have an argument. But I also think that if you're really going to have a good offense he probably be your third score. He he he was the hardest for me to include in the Himalayan. Because I don't think he gets all the way there himself but the defensive value made it made it that he was more appropriate for me in this year than the one below. So that's why he ended up there. But Yeah I agree with you offensively. He's not in the same caliber as the other guys. So my to your four here was three guys. Okay low end. All-star I called it and it was kyle lowry Darren Fox and drew holiday. I thought those guys have just a little bit higher level of performance then the group below them that I considered high end starter. Which took me from eleven to sixteen How did you have a lowry And westbrook but Fox and holiday. Let's sit on them a little bit here. My next group was eight to fifteen. I kind of saw the same a little bit of the same idea that you did. But I originally actually had drew Holiday Inn tier of his of his own and then like That's a little bit. That's splitting hairs. A little bit too much so so so you're sure Kyle. Lowry is better than drew holly. I have lowry a little bit above him but especially considering a season that started now in. Lowery's age you feel comfortable with lowery being significantly better than drew all day. It's it's close. That was one of the harder distinctions that I made. I actually had the other way I and then switched it back but the but withdrew. I'm a little bit less confident. Offensively like his defenses is great. I mean I. I've been a believer in him for a long time going back to La. I used to talk to him. About how defendant Steph Curry? Because he did such a good job on him but one of the most important things that a point guard does is. They are the engine for the offense and drew. Hasn't really he hasn't quite been that consistently over the course of his his tenure New Orleans and surrounding talent they all these injuries and everything else and so is he good enough to be like your second offense of option on a good offense you think second or third. I think it's questionable to me. I I was very disappointed in what he's done. Offensively the season particularly from a shooting standpoint He's bumped up a little bit lately is actually up to Thirty six percent from three. So so he's he's heated up some of late but overall fifty four percent true shooting in a career high is fifty seven percent basically has only been above the league average one season in his career which was seventeen eighteen and he's also the age twenty nine season. It's a I if I felt a little bit more comfortable with them either as a spot up shooter or as a pick and roll threat. I would've had higher because I am thirty eight last year and it just the offensive drop off is just a little concerning to me. Yeah it was concerning to me too. And so that's why can't why he ended up here for me than So what I'm interested in and I think it might just be me being a little late to the game. I had during Fox firmly in this year I had him twelfth but I so I think part of it might be for me right now is that I I was thinking I wasn't doing the whole like off. The season started right now because he has really. He's been good when he's been healthy this whole year but especially this last run before the Haggis. Yes since January first. Twenty two points a game fifty six percent true shooting pretty good. We saw what he could do in transition last year. That hasn't been as much the case this year but I think in the right system. He could just be a massive difference maker. What transition using. Here's another part of it and this is why considered moving him higher as a staff member. Herpin this a lot. Last year was Sacramento. That they had a below average half court. Offense Deer Fox was on the floor. And it's like that was that was disconcerting. This year seventy fifth percentile. Ninety seven five ninety seven five doesn't sound great but remember half court. Offense is a lot less efficient. So he also. That's also I just first shots. No no offense of retail right right. Yeah that's that's a separate separate categories including the glass filters it so that's getting that's getting there and so it wouldn't surprise me and this is maybe why should have put a modal higher when we do this exercise a year from now if I have Fox you know like maybe in the next year up or maybe there's a split tier kind of like what you did and that he's in that but I just again. I'm a little bit sometimes. I'm a little bit late with point guards. And he wasn't quite there yet so I just kept. I kept a minister year. Yeah and that's understandable. I I'm probably a little early on him. Just also wishes work consisted defensively. He's not bad. But I like some of the players in this group like drew bledsoe and Malcolm Brogdon well pregnancy consistent. But like those guys. I trust more on that under the four than I do with your Fox so you know it was it was. It was another thing that gave me a little bit of a pause. Yeah one concern for Fox. This year to three point percentage only thirty one percent and that's not fantastic. He has gotten his efficiency up to basically around the league average. I think he's taking incremental steps in this last couple of months or so and I don't think it's necessarily been like unsustainable that's got him there noting that overall three point percentage so I'm I think that the gains that he has made our sustainable Okay one more break here. And then we'll I mean we're not making a lot of progress. React to speed this up like forty minutes or we could split into a two parter who knows. Yeah that'll hey we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA rank them backup point guard honestly honestly probably could keep going be. Here's here's what's it well. Let's actually do that. Epic okay. So we're okay so okay so you had this. Is your eighth through ten correct suddenly. Have another eleven through sixteen yeah and I stopped really ranking them. This is kind of an order here. Jami rant number eleven. I actually think that in some ways he's been under utilized this year if you look at their clutch games and you see what he's been able to do down the end of that when they really are like okay. No now. We're going to it in his hands every single time when you look what he can do in an ISO as well when he even just going at his own man but then when they switched some big poor sap unto him he can blow by. Anybody can get a pretty good shot on anybody. A Luca touring the three point. Shot has come down a little bit..
"point guard" Discussed on Through the Wire
"And he's i the worst in the league borne past route because he's just not a good shooter spacing so that you have i live but i don't think it has anything to do with all the space and they have. I would just hope that russell has if he can't shoot the ball will the he could be their balance silence with them. I mean besides james harden. He's definitely going to be better getting ripken's and the rim and creating shots others and chris paul. That's why i think him. His space facing does matter to me because if you have to put in a lot of efforts to get to the basket as much as he did last year and his game is it's a lot of indians it will wear you don't have all of this space now because we have shooters there first of all attack the ram as much because now you're kicking it out. You're not he's not kicking. We've seen them throwing. We've seen a cappella can't really shoot either but i think he just says knowledge. No-one had space there floor especially when it's very isolated he i think he's just worst than steven. Steven adams probably just log another pay wayne for a rebound off the rim or something like that afraid to go small. We see time the p._d. Five and when you do that he he can post up a guard and get to where you know some spots where he's comfortable with and because you have james harden he. I don't think we're going to see a lot of russell. Westbrook desperation threes paul. George is good as he is. He's not as his personality anuj songs harden hardening going. He's he's shooting shot. I'm sorry hardens shooting <hes> yeah it was paul. George was the one on fire but russell westbrook got the last shot. He like bro. Give it to the goddess hat to miss the last you guys going to be like i need that ball. Not that type of guy james harden we sing arguing chris barr with russ that was history and now i think russell westbrook better understand stan. They are hard to see so my number three also have russell westbrook simla like henry blasio's playoff left a bad taste in my mouth like the lazarus i have a russell westbrook waved off the court last week and i have a russell westbrook regular season as he mentioned shot the ball horrifically and even though he was still the leader of that team he helped george gets v._p. Caliber seized i can't i can't overlook the fact that this could put the ball in the basket. Frauds jump shots go. It's hard for me to rank you top two when you can't do that and i haven't been number three on my list number three number the three minute through his career. I just think carrier by the have a crazy year. What made you put over. Russia is as i think he he's in a situation asian where he's going to be able to do his thing. Russell is going to have to play with hard and then eighteen might be a little better but from an individual standpoint carry it when i have a lot more freedom because kevin durant and going to be there and there's gonna be a lot of guys. There's gonna let him do his thing..
"point guard" Discussed on Through the Wire
"Them. I forget all when you tell you okay. Yes drake is going to have the ball yeah. Yeah we know. Steph is definitely play on yeah. Ever on each is so there's not every we're basically almost every possession. He's going to be touching the ball. I'm not saying it's going to be shooting the ball he's gonna be using very involved in that offense klay thompson ops around the fucking court several times and not touch it not but new team and that so it's one thing but not to the same thing with kevin durant here who take aside so anybody's going to go through that period then right what are you saying row a- about what did they say about eighteen mantle recipe and evolved into golden state where he said he's going to say he's not because bub-bubba you saying everybody does right. That's what i'm saying it'd be about and they offense without fucking touch the ball saying fucking adjustment because he came from his. I know the ball ninety nine. They have to have the ball in play make what to do with the ball. What is your mom do with the ball. He hasn't asked him to pass the ngelo russell instead mccurry clayton's house when he comes back you sound they dare who's next thing you yeah so. We both have massage your mind. I would just go straight seven russell right over spock's crap. He said d._r. Me the russell. Just has that offensive abilities. Just give you like thirty plus a night ability then he doesn't have thirty bucks you can beverly expi- illegal and like he's just all around p._d. Right now it makes sense new. Who's oh seven off of a tree. <hes> <hes> i think when you look at a guy that has a rookie give you twenty eight with the atlanta hawks you off. They had it can only go from there and i think he's he's better and the reason i think <music>. I'd like his his situation because he came into the league slowed. He didn't have a fiery star which means he had to sit back and figure the n._b._a. Came came out hot and then they'd slow down and figured him out he worked from reverse and figure that out and they only look at the dynamic team of adding cameras in his length defensive offensive potential you add the andre hunter history and the presence jabari parker down at team and he's going to be a mobile for. I think they continue to get better. John causes an underrated named. It doesn't get mentioned. He's going to step up having another good year and they're putting together. Some special kevin heard is going to be in a bad quote him to space the floor and i think trae young a ten or fifteen pounds of muscle this season. He's going to be attacking basket much more and much more aggressively and his vision is it opens up. The whole gamut. Armani was struggling. Everybody was signed by the shooting but division is is is is next level is just as good if not better than shoot. He's very exciting and why it's gonna take a role thing about other lives. He can catch john collins twitter. When he was struggling with shoot he was still playing making always they're yeah just always not taking as many and he wasn't shooting for further so he understood and made the proper adjustments and then like i say when you add in the defensive columbia liability but they're literally copycat and the warriors since they drafted him and they're adding a lot of defensive presence they even draft bruno fernando from maryland who was one of the best shot blocking the college asking ball so they know they don't and they keep on continue to go up twenty eight rookie season. It's hard to top but with the off season they had. I think it's possible that he can go up to twenty two and nine twenty two months they would show young. I need him to like go up as far as like real statistical like if he go twenty two and eight again but he's shoe efficiently threatens our season and that's a huge maybe down his turnovers to me twenty eight or twenty whatever he just got the same averages but his percentage percentage goes up and he gets a free. Maybe a little bit more. That's that's a big jump from us. One thing about an eastern conference carryover kemba walker ben simmons <music> <unk>..
"point guard" Discussed on Through the Wire
"The whole game plan was don't touch the ball. They were saying devon. Devon derek fisher had a big time shots because a lot of teams were saying we me too single net kobe win. Der efficient had opened corner three shirt. He's obviously but we just don't want anybody but koby and as i dare fish moments we big shots. I wonder their stat out there that you can look to see who got double team the most this season. I'm actually pretty interested. We sure they got they got steph. Everything iran's own. What do i even google but i i'm not would it be. The who do you think is the most honestly joel being depends on how calculated defense. I mean double team because the double team isn't always both of us crowd and you get a shade you if i could just use it as being like help extreme help so it ain't always and even seeing wti how teams not already there before you make your move your shoe so but that was cool to see i like that knows apply that joe kempston took him say and then i even watch the whole video and there was a <hes>. It was a play where <hes> joe can look list. You know the towards torch but i think i think awesome job you so. How do you feel about the white pass. We're gonna job with the lakers. You know i mean i think i've seen a lot slander with the white when i came out. I ain't really understand it. The white hope he has a lot of stuff that comes with a lot of dump things with the white one thing you can do. He's always been a double double machine. Ones back was hurting. The complimentary of buggy was a shooting was gonna bring and allowed <hes>. Andy davidson isn't believed to play together. <hes> our know how the white and davis will play together whoever they bring in. They're not gonna have that same to like. Star potential role there louis could ahead. They're going to pay like fifteen twenty minutes bugging size but not a lot of big meals. Demarcus could've potentially giving you but it's like we talked about at the day. We wanted to set it up to be placed in five years but i think that's might see that's gonna be the game lineup anywhere. He modified who especially book he's gone. He's probably gonna be anthony davis it. I like it but the top tapped point. I'm so interested to see which all garrett especially since last year. We had a terrier type talking yeah that was ah are very this. Oh my out. My guy will be three. I think he he still deserves at ten spot in his lead. I didn't think that houston houston key situation. When before i mean i didn't really base cert- mostly potential i based on your situation and just i mean how good you are play. I literally was ranking the that was coming into these. I didn't really think too much ahead in terms as a potential what they could be season but like i said i think a lot of if you just look at what beings is not a team that you probably couldn't fit on like. I say that houston situation. Maybe a couple years ago where if he was still in his prime it coulda worked better begin by defenders one more easily or taking advantage of those ice. Oh situations. I mean put on a situation like replace where eric bledsoe was an milwaukee bucks team now. He has a really do work as orchestrator on a team for the weapons..
"point guard" Discussed on Dunc'd On Basketball Podcast
"For me where I mean, just seeing you mentioned how bad Oklahoma City was without Paul George on the floor, and Russell Westbrook there. They had to start playing Westbrook. More apart from George because the shooter lead backup units were totally failing. You wanna get? He's a huge usage guy right around. Fifty percent true shooting has been for most of his career supposedly another guy who got better on defense this year. But I haven't seen eight has taken some charges, a liability, but more active as a help defender this year, but still, you know, not. So I look. At as a huge plus defensively. So that's that group there and I did put sex in that category. Though, you I think he if he continues to play well can get out of that. What do you think of my characterization of those guys it seems fair? There will be a lot of teams that just don't need what those guys can bring and then there'd be others that really do. I mean, it's sort of a similar shoe to wear the point guard starter position drops off as it is before thirty. But it is. But there are guys that other positions that can fill a lot of that role. I think it's kinda the same with backups. So the hope is that there are enough slots for those type of guys, but bringing out the fact that they're different that they don't succeed in all circumstances is reasonable, and I ended up being more negative on those type of guys overall just because their lack of plug and play to me that means first of all that means fewer teams interested from minutes perspective, but also from a dollars perspective. And I'll just mention it. My last group what I called rotation worthy. Really what that was for me is guys that you wanna give minutes to and also I thought it was a good differentiator. For guys that would give guaranteed money to like, there's a group of players below that where it's like, maybe it's a question that they're getting into it oughta that's young players that should get a lot better. But really, I think it I think it went from like, I didn't count it out. But it was like forty like fifty two or something like that. And that's about right in terms of how many capable backup point guards. Plus starting are in the league. So we wanted to go through my differentiation here. And you could just probably give a sentence or two each of these guys and built Brita stop me if you're insubstantial disagree. So here's my list of solid backups. And I'll give my list if you back actually going deeper on this group than it some positions. So my solid backups. Some guys who have Evan starters. But ideally, you'd want them to sell saw back up during Carlson, opiates it. Well from three never gets enough. I'm still say versatile enough jump shot not a plus defensively because he he's too skinny and does a really distribute a Reggie Jackson actually shot at better from three and averaging ten three point. Per hundred possessions, all of a sudden, which is a pretty high number to get into double digits there. But he's a choice defensively. You know, they always put him on the worst of the three perimeter guys. Even when you've got like, Wayne Ellington, Luke Kennard, and they've nobody else really. And he's still by far the worst of that group and his ability to get to the basket as been the same since those knee and ankle issues that he's had hasn't been as a passer, but the three point shooting is valuable, and he has some size Monty Morris as exploded on the scene this year. Maybe a little overrated at this point in time due to what he was doing early in the season impact metrics are not amazing formula to kinda got him pegged around being a normal backup point guard type of player. Other one of these guys who shot a good percentage from three but not high volume knows how to run pick and roll absolutely never gets the foul line. Absolutely. Never turns it over and defensively seems about average or so it Smith team always seems to play better when he's out there than his individual metrics didn't Katie has gotten. A little bit more with refinery. He does push the ball in transition a lot, which is helpful for this Detroit team. He does close some game sometime. I think he's our solid backup that contract..
"point guard" Discussed on Dunc'd On Basketball Podcast
"I differentiate between what I called solid backups, and if he backups, and then I also had a group of guys at the very bottom that I looked at it as guys who would actually probably hurt most teams because they're either so bolt on a minute or the can't shoot or the bend your whole style. Or they just kill your defense of so many actually be. Interesting to talk about those guys. I so he here's what I had in that group. And then we can kind of parse out who we think of solid backups versus a not great backups. So here are the guys that I looked at as guys who actually are like are hurting your team if your most you know, if you're a team with a really bad offense. Maybe you just need someone like this to just create shot. So that your offense isn't just totally hopeless and it just runs so I had Colin Sexton there, if Sexton continues playing the the ways play the last month and a half or so he gets off this list lisp quickly. But the overall impact metrics and the usage for the entire year are atrocious of knees last in all of the impact metrics PI PM RPM a lot of that comes down to defense. You know, his offense is getting better be still in the negative on offense for the whole year. He's also still not distributing. Yes. He's become a way more effective individual score. But he's not passing it about more. He's not creating more value that way, which is I think for me having him in the solid backup category was a pretty big victory. For Sexton over where he started the season. Yeah. So other guys I had in this category. Dennis Smith, you know, another guy who gave me he just actually the some of the impact by tricks on his defensive improve this year. I'm not really buying that. I don't know why there'd be much better. Especially in some of the situations that he's been in you throw in. Also, the fact that you kind of forced his way out of Dallas, his shooting is very iffy. A little better than some of the guys on this list. At least in just has made to be efficient. Also said some health concerns rachana Rondo is on this list for sure one of the worst defensive point guards in the NBA at this point impact metrics have been awful really the last four or five years yet one year that was okay drink think was last year. He's shooting the ball better from three but not enough volume and team still don't guard him. He's still dominates the ball. He can't finish the Remmy never gets the foul line. He's not a positive other than just as an assist guy. But that's really more. You'll he's not creating the opening for guys. He's kinda standing. Top throwing it to guys use a great entry passer. But overall, I mean, you just can't other than looking at the assist line in the box score. You can't make an argument that he's a appears not hurting you at this point. I l I Peyton is kinda like many Rondo at this point, which is ironic that he took Rondos place on the pelicans. Isaiah Thomas budget pains me to say is in that category. Until further notice, Emmanuel moody and other guys these guys who just are not efficient. Take a bunch of shots dominate the ball and yard just dragging you down. Dennis shooter. Also is in that category..
"point guard" Discussed on Dunc'd On Basketball Podcast
"You know, he gets a lot of his minutes within today this. But. But drew his Benny capable Ben. Like, a good creator in his own, right? He's ineffective score true shooting percentage of the fifty six percent this year on twenty five percent usage. Cysts plenty good. And he's to me the best defensive point guard in the NBA night in night out. And there are other guys with crazy high defensive ceilings we've seen Eric Bledsoe do it. And if you wanna draw the positional lines differently there other guys you can throw in this conversation. But that is a real value. Add and something that I I was thinking about when putting this together is drew Hollywood in some ways be an even more. It wouldn't be a more valuable defender to his team. But he could be more destructive. If the pelicans didn't have to do things like putting him on Kevin Durant. When they played the words because we don't have anybody who can defend threes. I mean, we saw that when they played Portland, and it was a team system. But drew was an integral part in stifling Damian Lillard in that sweep in the first round last year. Now, I certainly would understand arguments for why just about anybody in this tier could be at the top. That's what the tier is kind of supposed to be. The idea that you have a reasonable argument for any of these guys to be higher than the other. That's what makes up the tier IV Bledsoe in Lowry in their own to you're a little bit below these guys Lowry just not able to Crete as much with the ball as these other guys blood. So not really either blood Zo as reach a new level this series. Not really that good of a three point shooter defensively. He's really good when he's on ball a little bit Spacey when he's off ball. You know, he's a again has been in this perfect system with Milwaukee to look really good hasn't been at this level before and at age twenty nine I'm a little more skeptical of whether he could keep it up. Certainly the impact metrics for him are very good. But I think that's a lot of that is being on such a good team such good coach such good system. At Lowry is just he would have been right in there in previous years. But when you throw in his waning availability, some of the health issues that he's had and his inability to really be the main pick and roll. Engine any longer. You know, he's still really valuable player. I like what he can do defensively as a switch guy. A hoping to see more of that from Toronto in the play offs valuable shooter takes deep threes. But just not the same force that he was a couple years ago. So that's why I had him a little bit lower. He's a winning player. But he's also just not does a lot of things that don't necessarily show the impact ventures of always loved him in the regular season. He's generally not played as well in the playoffs. That's another little thing for him. I think you're overrating Kemba a little bit though. I mean, if you really look at what the stats are this series. Now a little bit below the league average intruding thirty five percent from three headed extremely hot first month or so when he was averaging like twenty eight a game on really good officiency. And whether it was that sprained ankle whether who's just over his head a defensively, I think he tries, but he's really small. So I I had him kind of towards the bottom of this group. You know, we haven't had a chance to see much of in the playoffs, and we won't again this year, but he's had a few games or got it disappears lately. And I just whether he's getting war down whether us over his head. I don't think that both establish low performance before this year, and then through that in with really his overall stat line this season aren't quite on the level of some of these other guys. I don't really think there's much of a statistical argument for Kemba over say, Mike Conley. At this point. I do in that there's a a meaningful difference. So far this year in terms of how their teams have played authencity when they've been on the four and while Mike Conley has worst surrounding talent right now, so using cleaning glasses filter taking out garbage time, Charlotte one thirteen offensive rating when when Kemp is on the floor..
"point guard" Discussed on Attack Each Day: The Harbaughs' Podcast
"Why were driving is uh you know the discussion about coroner's edited that is a great point i mean his his point is i mean a team full of guys that are six foot and their point guards was was six foot point guard as many point guards is you can possibly recruit you know they're six foot taller than her and her point guards shaven that get play corner and that they you know they they mature more you know they become a safety and a safety will like comes a up a linebacker at a linebacker that becomes a defensive linemen and the defense a lima the becomes an offer that's kinda where i took pointed wound it was a great point was somewhat hurry cornered offense let us schism athleticism and if you don't put back and forth how many point i mean how many at some point you got to have some how much is too much yeah of us some kids i also like lake that like uh guys that are athletic and and long it's six that that's about ordered razer there is going back and forth okay so now fastforward in the in the office in as he's make it a sound like i've just snap snap a backup i'm acknowledging that search snap back on my part allows us now back on your part as well and i was like now that it was very euro was a good discussion a great point but it was getting heated who's now he so we're in the obvious the turn and they were receptions overwork and you can see this kind of our eyes on the top of her head over that over the shelf you know of any good reception as and she's doing her work to to she's in our donor working and jim is disclaimer anami they're not talk and he's you get these these eyes of kinda glazed grant locked talked about ten minutes we hadn't talk it's a week we didn't talk since we got all the car will walked he went over there i sat dumb or is this going to go he sat down right across from i'm looking at him.
"point guard" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"At seemed like silly talk i was i was so focused on backley that seemed like silly talk to me but it doesn't seem those silly now not silly at all it is he has become the biggest story in college basketball to this season at in my opinion because what he's he's able to do um 22 assists was only the fourth player in unsuitable a men's division want history to hit that mark in a game and i'll be honest actually that's it that's a ton of assist i actually thought maybe the a record might have been a little bit higher but sure enough it wasn't in fact um one of the players who did that is currently a coach in the sec avery johnson did it back with southern uh back in the league 1980's um i've got a whole bunch of thoughts here gp uh i'll try not to overload you but i just i've got a whole mess thoughts on trade if you want to use this podcast to try to catch up in words per minute with me like close that gap just a little bit over the years is fine with me take off um both thought number one trading probably if he wanted to could've gone for fifty against northwestern state but instead opt to show people that he actually is uh a point guard and i think this was uh it's a message that he was sending to anyone who's been critical of him in the past that he is too much of a a me first shoot first kind of player he now leads the nation in assists and even before this game was third in assists in averaging nearly nine a game uh this is the type of performance uh that has people talking not because he put up forty plus no because he dished out 22 assists and people will start discussing him more in terms of his overall impact as a scoring point guard i think that was a very much tuchel and within the flow the offense he was just absolutely tremendous um so that that point can't be lost overall uh we are probably going to hear more and more about why wasn't trey young rated higher and his own recruiting class the reasons for that um were because of his saw.
"point guard" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd
"I don't think launch those ever going to be a superstar and i think his dad's allowed mouth and the lakers of fish bowl and but there are things he has that you can't teach and don't go away length dozen go away and to be a five long point guard will eventually be a huge huge advantage his vision he doesn't need by focal that's not going away you can't take those two things from he is never going to be a great shooter that's why i don't believe he'll ever be a superstar play and magic negative braun could he be a really solid culture changing pass first point guard surrounded by a paul george ingram coups monitor free agent absolutely could it be the fourth best player on the lakers and they could win a title yes at possible by the way a lot of these great point guards john wall can't when a second playoff series westbrook can't when a third so it's i just think he's a drummer were asking him to be a lead singer in the fish bulls brutal here coming up next something is happening in the nfl this weekend it is not getting a lot of publicity but could have a giving you could have a 15year impact in the national football league one of these stories that's not getting talked about but it'll be a franchise changer and the two franchises have already played this year and we didn't member we talked about this game being begged nobody would watch it even bigger than i thought that is coming up next plus joke latte.
"point guard" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd
"You know i've talked to dugout live about this could doug played deems are great great not a good but a great college basketball player and here's what's happened to the nba there's no handchecking manhattan about ten years ago this used to be a big man's game and then they took out the hand check in stone out a small man's game because nobody can stop these point guard of can touch him he michael jordan gary payton could steer your round the court can't touch point guards so everybody can get to the basket at what you're seeing more injuries with point guards than ever before because they can get to the basket and when you get to the basket to get run over by big guys walls hurt derek roses hurt tirees been hurt all the top point guards westbrook patrick beverley they can all get to the basket now so effortlessly could you can't hand check them they get hurt more because the game is such a guard driven league that you're now entering is a guard de'aaron fox without would be great lonzo ball marquel fault as a guard you are entering this league and they are going a hundred miles an hour remember college basketball is run not my players but my coaches so in college basketball very few teams play at this pace because in college basketball you come up the foreign roy williams goes awry four run the four and tommaso goes all right slow it down run the three in college basketball the coaches are constantly slowing down the pace of the game in the nba with no hand chuck check the games never been faster and so when these young guys come in the league even the talented guy hit go back and look at russell westbrook's rookie numbers he was awful and he's significantly more athletic the lonzo ball.
"point guard" Discussed on Doublestruck Stories
"Oftentimes when you do a peace like this especially if this length you kind of you know you kind of i don't wanna say trail off but the peace you know we thought it would be really great to kind of comeback around with a very strong bang um uh at the end of the piece and i i think it worked with a point guard on point guard communication the big is one of the big issues here that's been a question ever since the trading that you'd dive into it is who is going to be the ball handler for this team are they gonna divvy up the the the um in a play caller responsibilities from the time you spent with them i as there's two questions that i have is how much of an issue is this really for this team because it seems like antonis figuring it out and they're both harden and and polar saying the right things how big of a concern as it for these guys well it is a bit of a concern just because chris paul and been one person his entire one kind of player is entire career now you're going to ask him to be something a little different play off the ball a little bit and i think that is appealing to chris paul in spurts right that's the big there's a there's the rub if you will i thought it was interesting when d'antoni broke down to me that according to his math because he wants to limits paul's minutes to around thirty to a night which is exactly what he played on opening night uh he he in the way he broke down for me was they would only be on the court for a total of eighteen minutes together which is really interesting when you think about it but here's i think different d'antoni it was more important to have one of them on the court at all times than having them both on the court together at all times and i think that's a good decision on his part by the way and so what it means is concessions chris paul is gonna come out of the first quarter earlier than he ever has in his career james harden traditionally likes to play the entire first quarter nope not not this time now he's gonna have to come out with the you know.
"point guard" Discussed on The HoopsHype Podcast With Alex Kennedy
"I definitely penalized on some eu uc that more on the back end of the list lehrer sort of the variances much higher and play a player could perform up to the 19th best or may be to 30 fifth best point guard and there there's a pretty is simple rule of thumb if you like miss more than half of the previous season but you've been healthy before the projection is something like sixty seven games so you have to take like a minus ten percent out of the out of the ball you're produced yeah it makes sense so in a moment i want again to some of my issues with the list in in some of things i would change but amadou a list like this guy i've done rankings before where i ranked different players are different positions and i always think it's hard when you get to number thirty and then you get to like thirty one in those you know honorable mention type guys who were some of the guys that uh that you had trouble leaving off the list you know you mentioned tony parker's been guide has come up as not being on the list but you have very valid reasons for that was there anyone or any guys in particular that you had a hard time leaving often felt like you know if the lists had continued they would have been your next few guys there are a few higher and backups who were pretty close to making less than maybe should have even cory joseph is one of them he is going to be liked backup point guard third guard for indiana this season and is yet like really really solid player at everything than one upside picked that i really would have liked to put in but i just it really couldn't let still on rights is going to play the backup point guard now for thrown out of joseph as an indiana so those were a couple of guys who were really really close.
"point guard" Discussed on The HoopsHype Podcast With Alex Kennedy
"All i think at almost every point in the list there are some fans who were not happy with it according including some pretty strange ones like why tony parker's not on list but uh and he's not on the list because you'll be injured for the most of the season and he's like 35 i won't be good next year even when he plays but but i guess i like to blunt missed by the way i like how blunt you are and i guess them but i guess the sort of most important ones are the rookies who are probably wrecked a bit too i and then just like small things like career or being is behind isaiah thomas at six and seven russell westbrook is behind curry a number two and and then there are a few few players i left at the into the twin tease who people feel like should be in like the good point guard category which to me really stops at jeff teague at seventeen so from fourteen jrue holiday than george hill beverley and then tiegen that's after that it really started getting into the more random stuff and i guess people also sought that players like schreuder or reggie jackson or even jeremy linn sort of deserve to be a me higher group in for anyone that is criticizing you i would just say you know trump putting your on this together because this is not easy to do to make a projection like this and consider all the different factors it's very difficult especially for the point guard position now you're gonna be doing these for all the different positions you're going to be doing uh you know all five positions running point guard is the toughest because every single night a point guard is basically facing you know a star level guy on the other end of the floor there are so many talented point guard so ranking them in projecting who's gonna be good next year is very difficult um who were the toughest guys for you to place you know you mentioned some of the guys that you've been criticised about but for you who were the toughest guys to find the right slot for.