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"pioli" Discussed on ESPN FC

ESPN FC

03:13 min | 8 months ago

"pioli" Discussed on ESPN FC

"Slat and off and it changed a little bit the dynamic so then they dropped deeper A.C. Milan and actually roll my head some chances towards the end of the game. Almost equalized then. But overall, a very impressive A.C. Milan side led by my and also led by a very young Raphael liao up front. He was a handful. He drew a lot of fouls. He had a physical presence there was really, really fun to watch him. On the other side of a's Roma, you had daniella, he played on the right side. For me, a bit too far. He never got involved in the middle of the park where he's really dangerous. He has a very strong shot. So kind of he took himself out of the game almost. And so he couldn't create many chances there for Roma, but an impressive, really impressive win by A.C. Milan and they're looking strong as a really good contender for the school head to this year. Tony was interesting wasn't on yesterday's show. We talked about Edison Cavani and about how his love for the game can be contagious and we saw that with Manchester United. And you could say exactly the same about Zlatan today. Oh, Don, I'm absolutely shattered. I was doing the game tonight, 11 yellow cards, one red. It was unbelievable going to watch. The atmosphere in the Olympic hour was incredible. But it was made for someone likes latan. You know, he comes alive in this sort of arena. He owned a place tonight. He scored a really good goal. Jurgen said he had one disallowed for a VAR check. He was just offside, put a brilliant finish. Then he had a hand in the next goal. Cassie's penalty where he was fouled from behind. It took a little bit of time to get there because it was such a tight call and it's one of them where when you see it, it's a difficult call, but I think the referee made the right one. But he led the line just impeccable. Milan have got an air of arrogance, their cocky, why wouldn't they be the unbeaten since the start of the season? About 7 wins on the spin for them. So they're keeping tabs on Napoli, the two of them are running away with it at the moment. But just the ways LAT unplayed. And pioli's just got it off to a T wears Latin played an hour. And then the ideal man you want coming off the bench is Olivier Giroud who knows how to manage a game. He knows how to play the game. In the end, when tiande has got sent off, they were hanging on slightly, but in real terms how the game went. It was a comfortable win for Milan. Is this how you managed that and obviously missed a bit of the season already through injury again using him in this kind of way? Yeah, definitely. I think it's the right thing how purely uses him. He can tell through the training sessions. He knows exactly how fit, fit he really is. But I think, you know, I changed a little bit once he was off the field. Even if you know how to kind of control the game, also keep up the ball as don't set rightfully, but it changed a little bit situation of the game because not having started on as a reference point role was more and more invited to go forward and chase the game and maybe even get this equalizer. But purely, I think is, in terms of main management, he's doing a fantastic job. Meanwhile, let's talk about your former team, shall we? You're going, of course, registering a two nil victory earlier on today. Career with.

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"pioli" Discussed on Read Between the Lines

Read Between the Lines

05:46 min | 1 year ago

"pioli" Discussed on Read Between the Lines

"Again. They're some lake. There is some stories that you just don't WanNa stop living in that atmosphere in that world and I don't know I, just kept. Repeating Myself Lake repeating the same the same movies, the same books and just wanted to keep living in. The Little Mermaid a seriously I. I don't know how that is like the Great Apes. Yes and like an when I was a kid, it was like the those tapes and it was late DVD and stuff. But I don't know how that tape didn't like just. Weren't got. Worn off his that got a word I don't know probably. I'm just GONNA. Care it. Yeah. All right I don't know how that kept to working after lake might childhood because I watched that movie like twice every day before I go to school when it came back to from school. So yes, this is how weird I am when. Obsessed with something. Sam Yeah. So. So which character were you were you in aerial? Always Oh. Yeah, I like. To Watch that movie and not be Ariel. Yes exactly. There's no one else that you want to be like it's aerial and I remember that we had a bath tub. And we wanted to me and my sister wanted to recreate the scene that shows like that rock and then comes the wave you know the scene. Oh Yeah. So it's like insane gain in her hair's. Blowing in the wind so beautiful and. One of us will be like area there. The other one would just splash water the other just trying to recreate the the waves coming. It was ridiculous. So, swimming. Yeah pictures of the like from last year. Me Out of this rock and it was like the late I'm like oh my gosh. This rock is perfect and I tried to recreate the scene. It is a very awkward that posed not work. But this is something you have to do. You have to try to recreate that scene otherwise you're just seeing hop. And it's also another way showing like the power of story because. A story so well done you want to experience it from all the different media you can yes exactly and like yeah, if you're if you take a book like Harry Potter, I know there's a lot about J. K. Rowling not being good right now. So but a book like that they've got movies and books and Games and toys and everyone like gets all of it because you just want to experience it have you ever had. that. Known. I, don't know I think the whole Disney thing for me was like very I just WanNa live there every time I watched one of those films that would no I want to be here now now, one of at Bell and now I want to be Aurora. Now I want to be area, but I just want to be a Disney movie So Disney has been something like that.

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"pioli" Discussed on Fantasy Football Today Podcast

Fantasy Football Today Podcast

12:06 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on Fantasy Football Today Podcast

"That's what I think of when I think of him and I obviously like I said a James and that was just a good moment of fun moment to watch so aspirin Brady memory. I guess it's not really really old. So you mentioned James White. Obviously I'm sure you're referring to your time together at Wisconsin. Dame's has been one of the biggest benefactors from what Tom? Likes to do with running backs out of the backfield. You've got Danny woodhead. Kevin faulk Dion Lewis James is the latest one How exciting. How excited are you about that? Maybe possibility of him thrown passes to you. And and maybe in the passing downs back for Tampa Bay this year. Oh very excited you know anytime you get get a role an offense like I had. Last year was great on the now. You put that with time. Brady you know where he likes to do. And and getting the ball out of the real quickly It opportunities for me to get get to make plays Getting space so. I'm really excited about that. So my route running the Billy. Some pass catching ability. So that's definitely GONNA be a big part for me to see. Has there been a moment or or any ongoing conversations text messages. Maybe with With any of your teammates when you knew that this was official that Tom is going to be there you know. Was there anything that you heard from? Maybe you know Mike Evans Godwin. Anybody on the team Ronald Jones was like this really happened. Yeah all those guys just just most of these kind of I wouldn't say surprise more of south type of thing like a this is really happens really is for real and then obviously the whole joke around the team numbers. Chris GonNa wear now. That was one of the first things he thought about but knows. It was definitely exciting. The fans the the Lockman. Everybody's really excited by this You don't get that opportunity in your career very often. Let's talk about the backfield there in Tampa Bay. You said you know you're looking to build off what you did last year and just happy to have a role Talk about what this looks like right now and maybe what it could look like after week from now when the NFL draft. Adam as. I'm sure you're probably following some of the rumors that Tampa Bay may be looking at running back but right now you and Ronald Jones obviously looked like the top two guys. Tell me about what you guys can do. As as a duo. And and maybe talk about Ron. A little bit what he brings to table. Yeah I mean we definitely Have a solid group of bags. I mean there's obviously going to be a distant that's just the way it works in the NFL So excited to see wherever that is and we bring them in and Could get a chance to win games and make plays together with him too. But Yeah we I like our group man in a Roger. He's a great back on excited. To See you know he's keeps making strides. After his first year between that to a second year he made huge improvement and I know his work. Are This offseason so Get a chance to see him going into year. Three and then Made me and him and the TJ Logan on great retired or something. Yeah I like our group of backs in. I said when we add whoever we're going to add in the drafting an undrafted free agency free agency. Young just bring him into the room and you can get him up to speed and the get a chance to win games. You think Ronald Kinda gets a little bit of an unfair rap after what happened is rookie season like you said he had a a good second season looking to build off that in your three but he gets the credit he deserved for thousand yard season last year and what he was able to do. Especially closing the season yeah. I don't think he cares about it too much. But in the public guy people do have their own teams Arrojo but I mean guys locker towns that have a guy is a player and Once it all starts clicking for him even more and more I mean just even more and more plays Maysville explosives player Here's the smart player too and We decided to see him. Prove that. Come this either. What about you? What are you looking to prove? What are some of the expectations? He operates a bogus built on lies to you know be even more dependable On third down shot I can continue to run the ball on special teams. You know supposed to save their. That's that's really got me into league that that's been the foundation whole career and That's still going to be big for me. No Being the captain last year that I I plan to follow it up with another good special teams season. So that that's That's my goals for the season and Obviously to win a lot of games and stuff like that to personally. I'm looking for now. We're just talking about you right now. We'll get to the team in a minute You sort of lose to this James White Yourself. A collection of Wisconsin running backs. I want you to put on your analyst hat for a second. Tell me about Jonathan Taylor. And what he's GonNa do when he gets to the League obviously where he ends up in the draft and the NFL teams going to determine that but tell me about the next great Wisconsin running back home in the NFL is a dog man. He's a winner in these exposed. You have to say that you guys saw what he did at the combine this I'm excited for him and he gets into a good system he could. He'll have a great great career only Real talented player patient player. Great Runner Proved that he can catch the ball down his past season. So yeah I'm excited to see what he can do may He Definitely the best back in the draft in my opinion and the whole Should be gone. Early deficit be gone early. That breakdown. What's a good. You're going to probably take my job at some point. If you know given that kind of analysis I wanna ask you something because you came into the NFL's as undrafted guy and a lot of people don't really realize how tough that could be to end up. Not just getting into the League but sticking around for a couple of years that's going to happen to a bunch of guys after the draft next week and just talking about that process what it was like for your nfl draft experience maybe sitting through the couple of days of the draft and then what it was like the couple days afterwards and so you got that call from. Houston yes tough. It was definitely tough. You know you you hear a bunch of things year bunch of things from scouts. Gm's from coaches. Just where were they think you'll go and then obviously there's a chance that you don't go and I didn't get drafted But throughout the whole draft. You know there's about five five five teams that were Calling me throughout the whole day Or the last day I should say just saying that. If you're not picked up one aside if not picked up on the sign yourself That was that was promising. And you know It it was a little positive but still obviously you always dream of yours to get drafted when you're a kid you know So that didn't happen but then Like I said the Texans I signed with them about thirty minutes. After the draft ended and up to work you know and I felt like I was doing well and with them doing well with all the teams have been on. And it's hard earned you know. It's it's tough you. You always kind of the On the bottom looking out your jacket regardless of your skill set talent level. And then you just Kinda gotta prove you gotTa Wait. Wait for a chance to prove it and You know it's always the team of the team. The locker room. They know it's just a the front office. You never really know if you're GONNA get a chance to prove it but locker knows Who who the players are in the I feel like everywhere I was at guys looked at me like I was a good player so that that always kind of drove you know that always pushed me. Just 'cause no not the competence my teammates or something like that. Does your path kind of keep a chip on your shoulder as well. Oh absolutely absolutely you never forget it. You know I talked bunch. Undrafted guys and they always remember that that sticks with them in It's definitely part of the success that you have been able to get through that and then now fighting just like everyone else so you play with a very interesting and exciting coach. Bruce Arians a lot of people. Like to hear Bruce Arians when he gives his press conferences. I'm sure it's got to be a lot of fun to be around him. A Good Bruce Arians story about maybe something easy to use. Something said the front of the team very similar to ask you about Tom Brady. And we think of Bruce Arians what comes to mind. Oh Man I I guess I can't think of a particular quote or moment but I would just say our first couple practices last spring guy here and you hear about it all the time here. About how much how much cusses? But you see it first hand. It's a it's funny. It's funny it's funny it's not you. I haven't gotten I haven't gotten the bad one There've been a couple but I haven't gotten a battle but sometimes you get to hear some of the stuff. He says he's creative. I'll say that unscripted with his word choice. I'm sure it is. We always like an immediate to be around Bruce. Whenever he's talking about how do you? How do you think that relationship going to go between him and Tom just given the fact that Ed Twenty Year veteran and Bruce having sort of being set in his ways? How do you think that relationship is going to be won't be a problem? It's I'm excited when you did. You put the quarterback Guru with with the greatest quarterback of all time. I mean you. You're bound to have some some good things happen so I think it's a mass. May I WANNA ask you about James? Obviously he had a great season last year. But it's hard when you're going against the goat in terms of somebody coming to take your job for James Down the road. What's next step going to be in your mind? I'm not sure man but the guards. He's talented player. He's smart great quarterback and It'll be success wherever he ends up. And whatever city that's in you know e- he'll be fine He's too good of a player to no end up not having a great career. My pain he he A lot of things didn't go as we hear a lot of you know other circumstances that went into it but At the end of the Day James. A great quarterback and. I don't think that'll that'll be a problem for at all. Yeah no I'm with you. I'm excited to see James doesn't end up hopefully gets a chance to be a starter. He won't be wearing new uniforms though for the Tampa Bay Bucks. What's your what's your thought on the uniform change. I like I like him. I was one of the few people that didn't hate our old. Uniforms are I mean I guess the font was low funny but I I I liked our was but I definitely like these was more Going back to the history of the bugs you know I guess the uniform before the last ones Um and then the the color Russell's are cool. I like that instead of the allred on so I like the black face mask. I don't mind paying so I definitely McFadden. The News of Labor follow suit and likes them as well seems to be a little bit mixed reaction on twitter. But I think when you see a person exactly exactly Speaking of twitter People can follow. You want to get this right. Is IT AT D. G. O? Two-three underscore okay so they can follow you on twitter there at the two three zero two three underscore tell us about your piano skills because you a couple of weeks ago playing the piano How how long have you been playing? And and what do you like about playing the piano? Asaba places I was eight. My Dad had me and my siblings taking piano lessons every Wednesday. Night FOR YEARS. Up until high schoo- Stopped in high school because it wasn't cool and he still hadn't played in church so I played to a whole life really I still obviously play every now and then More I can't really reading music like I used to more so by ear but it's still get play songs on the radio and stuff so on. That's one of the things that have been doing and stay busy doing team try to learn some new sauce That's been you know. I guess one of my hidden talents. But that's that's something that's been a big part of my life from all life music in my whole family. It says it's going to be thing. Yeah again people should definitely go check it out it was. It's a worthwhile performance to the definitely here. That's at digi zero to three underscore. You mentioned your siblings. I think a lot of people probably hear your last name. They think of your sister as well talk about Akira. And maybe what you know she's been doing during quarantine from from what you know and tell me who. The better basketball player is in the family. Oh for sure are Rica. She sees. She's a legend that game. I used to be able to beat our. He came back in the day but Yeah it's not the same anymore. She's she's too good but no she. Uh She's up the Milwaukee on with my family. My brother and my parents. They're they're enjoying time up there little colder up there but she does have access to a gym and she's she's been doing well Training up there and staying with family. But she's a she's actions in Turkey on playing overseas all this kind of started so that was a big a big thing for us trying to figure out if she stay over there..

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"pioli" Discussed on Fantasy Football Today Podcast

Fantasy Football Today Podcast

11:36 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on Fantasy Football Today Podcast

"We're we're all doing draft analysis. But you're actually a proactive. He tell us specifically with the skill positions maybe a thing or two that you looked for in prospects that doesn't get talked about enough by analysts. I think one of the just mentioned ball security on which leads into dependability. Overall dependability and whether that's again skill positions we're talking about a running back will be talking about wide receivers quarterback right dependability. Jameis Winston certain fantasy teams lit. It up I from what I understand it. He was an incredible fantasy player because of all touchdowns and all the yards and all that stuff but he had thirty interceptions and to me. It's not just the interceptions. It was a number pick sixes that places on the field where the ball was turned over that led to points how many points those led to not all turnovers are the same so regardless of the skill position. There's this ability factor and again dependability. Ball security in the Running back Receiver position. Dependability is in blocking the blocking game is critical whether a wide receiver could be dependable To his team and make blocks downfield to engage with the defensive back in because of another player has the ball in hand and the difference between that player being dependable and or being willing to block could be the difference between an extra five six seven or thirty yards so again as much as the the The importance of the physical skills in the physical tools and the production. There's things that we call other production and whether player is dependable can lead to the other types of production got you've been in the draft room when hall of fame players have been drafted. You have a favorite memory from draft day or or at a trade that went down a good story from drafted. Oh I've got a couple of you know I feel like I've told them Matt Light. Trade story a bunch of times. Who's truly one of my favorite because we're in the division with the jets and because we jumped the jets while they were on the actually on the phone with Matt like Getting Ready to pick him. We jumped ahead of men and stole him and he went on to be an eleven year starter three time world champ three time pro bowler but that story has got a little jet fans are tired of hearing about it. I think when favourite most difficult trades. I was a part of was when we traded for Randy Moss and That was back when the draft the first three rounds were on day one and then they too. We picked up around fours today draft and we were trying to get to randy trying to trade in the Oakland Raiders. Mr Davis are trying to move him. We were very interested in randy but we also you know we knew randy a little bit. We didn't know him real well. We felt like three was too much. Mr Davis China wrangle. That third rounder from us and we decided that we use that. Pick at the end of that day. we were still talking and I went back my house at night. We still talk. Mr Davis in the folks out at the raiders and we were going back and forth and finally at about one thirty in the morning eastern time. I'll never forget You know I'd gotten home but we were in the middle of trying to get this done and we were willing to give up our forth which I think was either like number one ten overall or won eleven overall and I got home and I didn't WanNa wait my family so I'll never forget this moment. I'm sitting on my on my sofa in my boxer shorts with a blanket wrapped around me staring at the phone. Waiting the phone ringing myself. My Gosh this is what my life is. Route One thirty four rings and it's Mr Davis. Call him back and said we have a deal but now the problem is you know. And this is one of the things that people don't always think about in trading players involved with trades. Generally all trades are done on the contingency that the trade is not complete until the player reports and passes their so the next morning it was going to be like the tenth or eleventh. Pick that morning in the draft starting the second day at eleven o'clock in the morning eastern time so we had to get randy on the plane on a private plane. He had to fly in land in. You know in Foxborough area yet to the office meet with bill and I have a conversation. Take a physical meet with our doctors. Clear him on the physical and we had to renegotiate his contract down so that we would do trade and sign so simultaneously we. We had to reduce his salary by five million dollars. Oh and he had to be willing to do that in our meeting with Randy. Bill stepped away for a second. I say hey listen randy on the list article you rated. We're going to have to adjust your contract. We're going to have to and before I could even before I could even shwim yet. He looks at he leans forward in. Tears welled up in his I listen he says I don't care what it is. Get the deal done yet. Me Out of there. Please get me here. So we had to again re consummated the terms of the trade at one thirty in the morning dot in there and then before the fourth round started we again renegotiated. The contracts has some on the physical in got the deal done to me. That was one. It was exciting. It was fun and everyone knows what that season. Unfortunately it didn't end in a championship but We had a very very strong season. That didn't enter the championship but Ranya was a huge far. That has it's an amazing story. I mean I think anybody. That's listening to this and certainly knows the history of how that worked out for you. Guys the fact that you will get Randy Moss for a fourth round. Pick and convinced him to take a reduced salary. His absolutely amazing well done by done. Well done by here on site guys got Jamie tell you he he you. We didn't have to commit some of anything on the pay he just wanted and that was one of the. That's one of the most misunderstood things about randy. Moss is an unbelievable human being. He's a good person. He's one of the smartest football players I've ever been around I need. He is brilliant and Don't let that That what's resume Virginia country accent for you dude is smart and he When he came in he was he was ready willing and want to because at that point in time in his mind in his life Winning and the possibility of winning a championship was far. More important than any amount of money you could make up in unfortunately just felt a little bit sorts with that we will bring up those bad memories in the shit our buddy Outta mazars giants fan so he probably enjoyed the way that that went ended but In any event Scott. We appreciate you taking some time to join us here. You can catch Scott on all of our draft coverage on CBS sports. Hq Scott has one of the best home. Setup you will ever see he's got the Lombardi trophy displayed. Scott I think he rotate. Your sports illustrated covers correct. I do I do. I try to I have this huge sports illustrated collection. And what I try to do. Is Whatever's happening. At the moment I try to make it somewhat. Relevant for instance when we joined the playoff run I was rotating Playoff GAMES OR PLAYOFF COVERS. That were on there. Then during the super bowl I rotate some old school super bowl ones. I had a LEN Dawson. One I you know and then again it makes it a little bit fun for me. Also Free Agency started one of the things I was able to had Reggie White nineteen ninety three the first year that the NFL had free agency and that that sports illustrated cover. I also right next to it. Had One Nineteen Sixty eight sports illustrated cover of curt flood catching a ball against the Ibn Wrigley. As we all know anyone who's a A sports fan knows a curt flood. Was the man behind. Free Agent signed sports. Who did all of the work in heavy lifting into all the beating in order for it to to happen? So Yeah I looked on those guys while Thanks time here with us again. You can check out Scott's coverage along with many of our cast of characters on our NFL draft coverage on CBS sports. Hq starting Thursday night is going to be great. We're going to have you locked and loaded with everything coming up for the NFL. Everything coming coming up for fantasy the season in Scott again. We appreciate you taking the time to join us here on fantasy football today. Jimmy Heath. Thanks so much for having it really appreciate it coming up. You're going to hear my interview with Dr a OGM beloit Tampa Bay box running back record that interview before the Gronkowski Trade. So there will be no conversation. Dari was great talking about the bucks talking about the Backfield with Ronald Jones. And he's Wisconsin. Guy So he gave us a little insight on Jonathan Taylor and maybe what Taylor can be once he gets to the NFL. Enjoy that conversation again. We appreciate Scott taking the time. And don't forget we're GONNA have saquon Barkley on the show here on fantasy football today. I cannot wait to your Adam swoon. Over the giants running back thanks guys. I'm Jamie Eisenberg here with Dario Gumbo Wally of the Tampa. Bay buccaneers. Dari thank you for taking the time to join us here on. Cbs Sports. We appreciate it. Just want to ask you man. What's what's what's quarantine life like for you right now. Are you holding up Phillies same as everybody's man. I worked out in the morning and then I sit around all day. Just hanging out on family or watching. Tv playing video games of is this boring but You know gotta do it but Yes definitely bar I notice you. Are you play the piano? I WanNa talk to you about that coming up a little bit as well but you mentioned that you're working out Tell us how you're staying in shape to get ready for the upcoming season. Obviously it hasn't been the norm. But what are you doing to prepare yourself? Yes garage workouts. You know getting stuff done. The garage still got access to feel. That's the Nice thing about being in Tampa Lettuce warm. So we still run routes and Get some cardio get some conditioning than I feel. But there's been different than different process and guys not being able to be in. The facility is tough but We're figuring out a way to do it though are. Are you working out with any of your teammates or you know throwing the ball around with the guy's been by myself mostly elm. Is Bob Ourselves in the backyard or or not? Backyard Patio area or like I said garage but not not too much team stuff right now. Yeah it's It's it's gotta be hard a little frustrating especially with some of the new editions Obviously everybody's excited about the quarterback that you guys are gonNA have chain. Can you talk about Tom Brady and what what that signing has meant for you and for the team and maybe the city of Tampa as well Huge huge going up you you watch the. I watch a lot. Watch them win Super Bowl when I was younger watching now older And just when you get in the league you you always excited about playing against guys like that or being coin. Toss guys like that. But I've been the Hudson greatest player ever in the NFL. So it's it's exciting really exciting. I mean he's a great player A lot has gone in Hindi in grade and now we get to see first hand you know. He gets to make our team but he used to make me better own. Just the most watching approaches things. So we're all excited about that expecting a lot of big things here. You have Tom Brady memory like you said you grew up watching him. Is there something that stands out when you think of Tom Brady? That comes to mind Well I guess it's not so from when I was younger as more. So the Super Bowl against the Falcons and even those James James James. My good friends but Just come back..

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"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

08:45 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

"Spanish back elect expects the Spanish inquisition. That's right it's monty python reference. It's the ten questions fight. Everybody gets it. Nobody expects number one. What's your desert island album? You can only have one do only one. Yeah it's really mean question question. It's terrible it's horrible to two sides of one album sure okay one side of Bruce springsteen's born to run no one outside of Bruce springsteen's while innocent in the east shuffle and one side Pink Floyd's dark side of the Moon Those are like two of my all time favorites new NYC serenade sold pink. Floyd the greatest number two. What happened or quality? Do you think has contributed most to your success. Who Habit or quality that I? I don't don't like the question because that makes it sound like I'm too much responsible for my quote unquote success. I defer that question because it's been because of other people that is not an answer that I will accept. I appreciate your humility okay. On the habit or quality quality is that I'm extremely reflective and over. Think things. Okay I'll take that I'll take that one number three. What would you consider your biggest failure my time in Kansas City? The end my the the job that I didn't get done at the Kansas City chiefs number four. Have you ever been in a fistfight. Oh Gosh Yeah. Mostly the football related or otherwise Unfortunately I was an angry kid surrounded by angry people well and but I'll say this I would say that eighty percent of the fist fights that I had as a kid and a teenager was because I was defending other people. Okay it's we're being picked on. That was a big deal of mine number five. If you could switch lives with anyone for a day who would it be. Oh Oh oh my gosh. Wow I like I was GonNa say Dick Butkus but you know I don't as an adult I would probably say Condoleeza Rice Oh interesting okay and I knew I could count on you. Switch switch genders. Yeah we don't get a day Yeah most people. Most people don't even think about. Why wouldn't I switched genders? Why wouldn't I want to see what that was like? So I appreciate that you that you were into that. The number six the most embarrassed you've ever been now that's a long a- It happens all the time I I would say like in a serious embarrassment would probably be The realization the ultimate moment of acknowledging failure and being fired at the Kansas City chiefs right. Yeah number seven. What's the thing about yourself if you'd most like to improve again? There's a long list here this year. You didn't tell me going to be a test I would say Getting refocused on the most important relationships in my life friends friends and family that I don't see all the time. Yeah that's a good one number eight if you could be commissioner of life for a day what one rule would you enforced. Forced all of society would have to adhere to gratitude and civility. Gosh you speak my language. The those are those are recurring theme because on this particular and civility. Yeah those are good again we can disagree. Can we just dissemble strongly and be nice to one another YEP number nine. What's the most scared you've ever been the most scared again in reality? It was a circumstance that happened when I was a kid that I want to get into the details And I would say possibly The reality that hit me after the tone belter murder suicide in the moment. I didn't realize I was just Trying to fix WCHS am after I realized I was afraid afterwards because I realized how real that situation was and I was so anyway. A number ten. What three words would you most hope that people would use to describe you owe fair thoughtful and demanding I like those and finally who should have on this podcast. Does it have to be about sports. It can be about pursue happiness anything and everything whow bill parcells guy a a guy that might be a fascinating life. That's and again. There's here's a little bit and the reason I said that Goes I can think of a lot of other really cool people. I say that because there's this entire generation growing up right now. That has no idea who bill parcells is and amazing things about this game and all of these games. James is that people that are are monsters of the game now. People don't even remember who they are when they pass or this whole generation that doesn't respect the history enough. Um Yeah so there you go. That's a good one. Hey thanks for taking the time to do this. This was really fantastic. You're terrific Sarah. Thank you so much really appreciate it. That's what she said. It's it's time once again for South Bitch sessions where Iran about something that bothers me and I fix it this week. The fact that literally everything seems bad for the planet like cut back on eating animals because the climate change. Oh but now. You're making life harder for the farmers and that land weirdly shaped and not perfectly colored produce. So it doesn't go to waste because people don't use it at the grocery store but that produce is shipped to you buy a service waste packing materials and then use gas to transport it to you. Today it's this one drink almond milk. It's healthy. It's lactose free. It has less calories. It doesn't use all the animals. Oh but wait now. It turns out almond milk. Production is killing bees..

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"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

08:45 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

"Spanish back elect expects the Spanish inquisition. That's right it's monty python reference. It's the ten questions fight. Everybody gets it. Nobody expects number one. What's your desert island album? You can only have one do only one. Yeah it's really mean question question. It's terrible it's horrible to two sides of one album sure okay one side of Bruce springsteen's born to run no one outside of Bruce springsteen's while innocent in the east shuffle and one side Pink Floyd's dark side of the Moon Those are like two of my all time favorites new NYC serenade sold pink. Floyd the greatest number two. What happened or quality? Do you think has contributed most to your success. Who Habit or quality that I? I don't don't like the question because that makes it sound like I'm too much responsible for my quote unquote success. I defer that question because it's been because of other people that is not an answer that I will accept. I appreciate your humility okay. On the habit or quality quality is that I'm extremely reflective and over. Think things. Okay I'll take that I'll take that one number three. What would you consider your biggest failure my time in Kansas City? The end my the the job that I didn't get done at the Kansas City chiefs number four. Have you ever been in a fistfight. Oh Gosh Yeah. Mostly the football related or otherwise Unfortunately I was an angry kid surrounded by angry people well and but I'll say this I would say that eighty percent of the fist fights that I had as a kid and a teenager was because I was defending other people. Okay it's we're being picked on. That was a big deal of mine number five. If you could switch lives with anyone for a day who would it be. Oh Oh oh my gosh. Wow I like I was GonNa say Dick Butkus but you know I don't as an adult I would probably say Condoleeza Rice Oh interesting okay and I knew I could count on you. Switch switch genders. Yeah we don't get a day Yeah most people. Most people don't even think about. Why wouldn't I switched genders? Why wouldn't I want to see what that was like? So I appreciate that you that you were into that. The number six the most embarrassed you've ever been now that's a long a- It happens all the time I I would say like in a serious embarrassment would probably be The realization the ultimate moment of acknowledging failure and being fired at the Kansas City chiefs right. Yeah number seven. What's the thing about yourself if you'd most like to improve again? There's a long list here this year. You didn't tell me going to be a test I would say Getting refocused on the most important relationships in my life friends friends and family that I don't see all the time. Yeah that's a good one number eight if you could be commissioner of life for a day what one rule would you enforced. Forced all of society would have to adhere to gratitude and civility. Gosh you speak my language. The those are those are recurring theme because on this particular and civility. Yeah those are good again we can disagree. Can we just dissemble strongly and be nice to one another YEP number nine. What's the most scared you've ever been the most scared again in reality? It was a circumstance that happened when I was a kid that I want to get into the details And I would say possibly The reality that hit me after the tone belter murder suicide in the moment. I didn't realize I was just Trying to fix WCHS am after I realized I was afraid afterwards because I realized how real that situation was and I was so anyway. A number ten. What three words would you most hope that people would use to describe you owe fair thoughtful and demanding I like those and finally who should have on this podcast. Does it have to be about sports. It can be about pursue happiness anything and everything whow bill parcells guy a a guy that might be a fascinating life. That's and again. There's here's a little bit and the reason I said that Goes I can think of a lot of other really cool people. I say that because there's this entire generation growing up right now. That has no idea who bill parcells is and amazing things about this game and all of these games. James is that people that are are monsters of the game now. People don't even remember who they are when they pass or this whole generation that doesn't respect the history enough. Um Yeah so there you go. That's a good one. Hey thanks for taking the time to do this. This was really fantastic. You're terrific Sarah. Thank you so much really appreciate it. That's what she said. It's it's time once again for South Bitch sessions where Iran about something that bothers me and I fix it this week. The fact that literally everything seems bad for the planet like cut back on eating animals because the climate change. Oh but now. You're making life harder for the farmers and that land weirdly shaped and not perfectly colored produce. So it doesn't go to waste because people don't use it at the grocery store but that produce is shipped to you buy a service waste packing materials and then use gas to transport it to you. Today it's this one drink almond milk. It's healthy. It's lactose free. It has less calories. It doesn't use all the animals. Oh but wait now. It turns out almond milk. Production is killing bees..

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"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

13:50 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

"That had voices is to keep this from happening. And I say that Sarah because I go back to the Patriots model and you've just triggered this automate. I think you're going back to one of your original questions. Why did I love working for bill and WANNA work with bill and be a partner with bill because Bill Belichick is one of the best listeners that I've ever been around and even though he you know you talk about we shared the role of GM? That's part of the beauty of being with bill when I was in that role even though he had the authority to have all final decisions just like he does with his coaches and coordinators. He Trust people enough to let them make decisions. And as long as you have vetted it and have a smart reason and and saying ticket nonscientific reasons for doing things. They were a lot of success because of the collaboration at the Patriots. And so so. That's why I believe that. It's never one person's fault that loses a game or it's not a coach's fault again at some point in time the general manager and the other people the other adults in the room have an opportunity to stand up and say something if it you know if they don't think things are going the right way and say something about it or they don't and yeah well and also I know that I hope that makes sense early totally makes sense but I think also something that I was thinking about as you're talking to is if you think to yourself I've put these players in a great position and they're successful. Why did they fail me now? You have to think about the players that you drafted really low and well outperformed outperformed your expectations. And what was expected of them because they reflect so greatly on you for the work that they put in and how successful they are and they are just as much you know you have to focus as much on the ones that out did what you expected them as the ones that failed you otherwise. It's a constant failure. Yeah Sara Lee I mean that's a brilliant point because it's not only did the players you know out kick their coverage but the people the coaches and the infrastructure infrastructure that develop those players right the trainers that got them healthier kept them healthy the coaches that worked with them when those players were looking to work extra hours I write this strength and conditioning coach. If the player is part of his thing is developing ingrowing. If it's matthew slater who was a seventh round pick right but wants wants to become this great player yes matthew did the work and he had guidance and help along the way it was coaches. It was trainers it was strength and conditioning folks. It was the player programs director. That that's part of it. No one succeeds or fails alone and you bring up a brilliant point. It's the the development is well. Well why did that player develop you know I it. It takes a village so you decide to step away from the Falcons and you're working as a consultant I'm for the NFL. You do bunch of analyst work but mainly what it feels like you in part stepped away for this. Little Sabbatical of sorts is to focus on a a lot of the work that you do within the football world but not on the field. So you're on the board of the Women's Sports Foundation and you partnered with them to provide assistance to aspiring female football coaches and scouts. You have a Scott Dallas and me appeal family endowed Hugh Scholarship for women at historically black colleges and universities. You're on the board of a bunch of nonprofits. I mean you are over committed I would say in the philanthropic and diversity effort world world. Why are you so committed to this? Can you trace that to something. Well I'll say this. I don't think you can never be over committed. Well that's my philosophy. Veto sleep never relaxed. You can't over commit to helping people I mean. I don't think that there's a ceiling on finding ways to help people that are less fortunate than you I hear what you're saying but I push back a little bit kiddingly but honestly the Ram all of this work. All of this. That you're mentioning is is not anything new. I've been doing this my entire career. My entire life I don't life because when I was younger I was absolutely ah knucklehead and a lot of ways he's so this is nothing new I think people just see it because because some of the things I've been working on and supporting for such a long time it's become come. These things are being talked about more but back in two thousand nine over a decade ago. Now you know I heard that the NFL's first female director of player programs grams in Katie Douglas. So it's not like this is just happening now or just started and you know Brian. Flora's and there's there's a there's a a very large group of young black men than I have hired Over the years Brian floors with an intern for me in two thousand four. Because I I believe that people need opportunities and need to be trained and need to be mentor. it it just part of my life it you ask where traces back to you know. I was You know a curious kid and I'm very I wasn't a smart kid in a lot of ways. I wasn't necessarily the hard working but I paid attention to everything that was going on around me and things affected me as a kid and a lot of different ways. One of the blessings. I've had my life is that I've always been able to feel things and The simplest example I can give in terms of the racial equality worked. I've believed leave in my entire life. I've done the work my adult life but I've always believed in it since the third grade. You know my third grade teacher Miss Cooper. Who's now MRS is? Jackson was the first black schoolteacher in our school district in a town Washington bill and she was one of the most loving caring wonderful wonderful people. I've ever met now prior to entering that classroom. I'd heard a lot of things about what Miss Cooper was going to be. Um I'm growing up in a town Washington but which at the time beautiful people hard working people but many people that had moved out of the Bronx Queens Brooklyn. You know. I mean I'll call it. What is it was part of the nineteen sixties white flight and people were getting out of the city to suburbs that they were Creating to get away from elements that they didn't speak very kindly. So when Ms Cooper becomes the first black flex schoolteacher. I'm hearing a lot of things before into into the classroom from a lot of different people and a lot of different places and I get there and and from day one when you show up and you get off the bus and you have to line up and you're meeting your teacher. She hugged every less kid that came out and every single day that I went to that classroom for the entire third grade. Miss Cooper had a hug. A touch. Approach a closeness a support and a love that was completely unconditional and very much different than many other other teachers and at seven years old and eight years old. I was exposed to ally and and untruthful narrative about people that I've hung to my entire life. She missed cooper so she loo- Well Mrs. Jackson I still can't call her missus Jackson she and I stay in touch. She lives down in DC. Now she's going for one of the most incredible influential people in my life and I tell that story because that was the beginning and at every stage in every year every turn in my life I've been exposed to you seeing things through different prison and that people are marginalized the truth that people are marginalized analyzed. You know in terms of the gender space. Sarah I two sisters who were better than me in every single way growing up okay They were better students. There are truly better. Athletes had grown up in a different era rather than graduating high school in the seventies. They would've been scholarship athletes. I I'm certain of that. They were smart. They were talented They they were more reliable and dependable than I was. But you know I come after them and because I can play football and I'm a dude. I get the opportunity to go to college that they didn't have and to get college paid for that. They didn't have and being a good Catholic. You know or being raised Catholic. Good old-fashioned Catholic guilt stick still sticks with with you and I still think about that. How wrong that was? And how fundamentally wrong that was and watching so many people that I knew uh that were different than me that didn't have opportunities and people. I always hear people say well. They had choices. They made their choices. That's why they ended up where they were and what I say to people that that are that ignorant I say to them. Listen when you look like me you have a different opportunities. My sisters didn't have the opportunity to dream like I dreamt they didn't have the opportunity to think that life could be different like I did and I'm sorry to make this such a serious conversation about you know. Ah That's a big part of my wife Sarah there's people out there that are marginalized don't get opportunities and it's just wrong In my mind and and I've just tried to do things In my own small way to present opportunities for people that deserve opportunity because in this country everyone is supposed hosted deserve an opportunity. That's why this country was created. As far as I can tell the work that you're doing is incredible. I wonder when you're out in football Paul spaces you know everybody. You have worked with the best and the most successful. You're married to someone. Whose Dad is you know a part of this other generation this great great line of of football successes? How easy is it for you to try to push the the work that you're doing and have it be accepted when that's diversity of female female hires diversity of race hires or is there still this sort of old boys club or this is the way it's always been that you run up against absolutely i? It's very difficult Colt and again sometimes It's getting better. It is better and it's nowhere near good enough Is it still difficult with certain with some people. Yes are there others out there that think and believe like me absolutely. I'm not a Unicorn and I think sometimes people are afraid to. They'll they do the work as I like to call. But they're cautious to stand up because when you do stand up publicly there's there's a downside to that so it's better but it's not good Is there pushback still absolutely and there and and as we all know that there's there's People who do things for public optics and or safe things public optics and they say things publicly William and they'll do a little bit here to make the situation look better but they don't either really believe in it but they're not really trying to change things so it is difficult but again I'm not a lone wolf out there. I know some really good people. I'm a I'm sure you do too Dussehra that that are doing this as well. We just need more people doing it and more people feeling confident about themselves and not being worried about the people that you help here. I think a big part of what the problem is. I think that I am totally comfortable in my space and what my opportunities are. I'm also also very comfortable with the fact that people that I'm helping get to the table if they're better than me and they sometimes they might get a job that maybe I wanted to. If you're a true competitor you know you don't worry about things like that anyway. I hope that answers the question does it really does. It's it's it's super impressive and you know it's great when people like you are so invested in this work because you have the poll and the influence fluence and the agency to actually get stuff done and hopefully turn the minds of some of those around..

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"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

11:37 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

"Develop those players right the trainers that got them healthier kept them healthy the coaches that worked with them when those players were looking to work extra hours I write this strength and conditioning coach. If the player is part of his thing is developing ingrowing. If it's matthew slater who was a seventh round pick right but wants wants to become this great player yes matthew did the work and he had guidance and help along the way it was coaches. It was trainers it was strength and conditioning folks. It was the player programs director. That that's part of it. No one succeeds or fails alone and you bring up a brilliant point. It's the the development is well. Well why did that player develop you know I it. It takes a village so you decide to step away from the Falcons and you're working as a consultant I'm for the NFL. You do bunch of analyst work but mainly what it feels like you in part stepped away for this. Little Sabbatical of sorts is to focus on a a lot of the work that you do within the football world but not on the field. So you're on the board of the Women's Sports Foundation and you partnered with them to provide assistance to aspiring female football coaches and scouts. You have a Scott Dallas and me appeal family endowed Hugh Scholarship for women at historically black colleges and universities. You're on the board of a bunch of nonprofits. I mean you are over committed I would say in the philanthropic and diversity effort world world. Why are you so committed to this? Can you trace that to something. Well I'll say this. I don't think you can never be over committed. Well that's my philosophy. Veto sleep never relaxed. You can't over commit to helping people I mean. I don't think that there's a ceiling on finding ways to help people that are less fortunate than you I hear what you're saying but I push back a little bit kiddingly but honestly the Ram all of this work. All of this. That you're mentioning is is not anything new. I've been doing this my entire career. My entire life I don't life because when I was younger I was absolutely ah knucklehead and a lot of ways he's so this is nothing new I think people just see it because because some of the things I've been working on and supporting for such a long time it's become come. These things are being talked about more but back in two thousand nine over a decade ago. Now you know I heard that the NFL's first female director of player programs grams in Katie Douglas. So it's not like this is just happening now or just started and you know Brian. Flora's and there's there's a there's a a very large group of young black men than I have hired Over the years Brian floors with an intern for me in two thousand four. Because I I believe that people need opportunities and need to be trained and need to be mentor. it it just part of my life it you ask where traces back to you know. I was You know a curious kid and I'm very I wasn't a smart kid in a lot of ways. I wasn't necessarily the hard working but I paid attention to everything that was going on around me and things affected me as a kid and a lot of different ways. One of the blessings. I've had my life is that I've always been able to feel things and The simplest example I can give in terms of the racial equality worked. I've believed leave in my entire life. I've done the work my adult life but I've always believed in it since the third grade. You know my third grade teacher Miss Cooper. Who's now MRS is? Jackson was the first black schoolteacher in our school district in a town Washington bill and she was one of the most loving caring wonderful wonderful people. I've ever met now prior to entering that classroom. I'd heard a lot of things about what Miss Cooper was going to be. Um I'm growing up in a town Washington but which at the time beautiful people hard working people but many people that had moved out of the Bronx Queens Brooklyn. You know. I mean I'll call it. What is it was part of the nineteen sixties white flight and people were getting out of the city to suburbs that they were Creating to get away from elements that they didn't speak very kindly. So when Ms Cooper becomes the first black flex schoolteacher. I'm hearing a lot of things before into into the classroom from a lot of different people and a lot of different places and I get there and and from day one when you show up and you get off the bus and you have to line up and you're meeting your teacher. She hugged every less kid that came out and every single day that I went to that classroom for the entire third grade. Miss Cooper had a hug. A touch. Approach a closeness a support and a love that was completely unconditional and very much different than many other other teachers and at seven years old and eight years old. I was exposed to ally and and untruthful narrative about people that I've hung to my entire life. She missed cooper so she loo- Well Mrs. Jackson I still can't call her missus Jackson she and I stay in touch. She lives down in DC. Now she's going for one of the most incredible influential people in my life and I tell that story because that was the beginning and at every stage in every year every turn in my life I've been exposed to you seeing things through different prison and that people are marginalized the truth that people are marginalized analyzed. You know in terms of the gender space. Sarah I two sisters who were better than me in every single way growing up okay They were better students. There are truly better. Athletes had grown up in a different era rather than graduating high school in the seventies. They would've been scholarship athletes. I I'm certain of that. They were smart. They were talented They they were more reliable and dependable than I was. But you know I come after them and because I can play football and I'm a dude. I get the opportunity to go to college that they didn't have and to get college paid for that. They didn't have and being a good Catholic. You know or being raised Catholic. Good old-fashioned Catholic guilt stick still sticks with with you and I still think about that. How wrong that was? And how fundamentally wrong that was and watching so many people that I knew uh that were different than me that didn't have opportunities and people. I always hear people say well. They had choices. They made their choices. That's why they ended up where they were and what I say to people that that are that ignorant I say to them. Listen when you look like me you have a different opportunities. My sisters didn't have the opportunity to dream like I dreamt they didn't have the opportunity to think that life could be different like I did and I'm sorry to make this such a serious conversation about you know. Ah That's a big part of my wife Sarah there's people out there that are marginalized don't get opportunities and it's just wrong In my mind and and I've just tried to do things In my own small way to present opportunities for people that deserve opportunity because in this country everyone is supposed hosted deserve an opportunity. That's why this country was created. As far as I can tell the work that you're doing is incredible. I wonder when you're out in football Paul spaces you know everybody. You have worked with the best and the most successful. You're married to someone. Whose Dad is you know a part of this other generation this great great line of of football successes? How easy is it for you to try to push the the work that you're doing and have it be accepted when that's diversity of female female hires diversity of race hires or is there still this sort of old boys club or this is the way it's always been that you run up against absolutely i? It's very difficult Colt and again sometimes It's getting better. It is better and it's nowhere near good enough Is it still difficult with certain with some people. Yes are there others out there that think and believe like me absolutely. I'm not a Unicorn and I think sometimes people are afraid to. They'll they do the work as I like to call. But they're cautious to stand up because when you do stand up publicly there's there's a downside to that so it's better but it's not good Is there pushback still absolutely and there and and as we all know that there's there's People who do things for public optics and or safe things public optics and they say things publicly William and they'll do a little bit here to make the situation look better but they don't either really believe in it but they're not really trying to change things so it is difficult but again I'm not a lone wolf out there. I know some really good people. I'm a I'm sure you do too Dussehra that that are doing this as well. We just need more people doing it and more people feeling confident about themselves and not being worried about the people that you help here. I think a big part of what the problem is. I think that I am totally comfortable in my space and what my opportunities are. I'm also also very comfortable with the fact that people that I'm helping get to the table if they're better than me and they sometimes they might get a job that maybe I wanted to. If you're a true competitor you know you don't worry about things like that anyway. I hope that answers the question does it really does. It's it's it's super impressive and you know it's great when people like you are so invested in this work because you have the poll and the influence fluence and the agency to actually get stuff done and hopefully turn the minds of some of those around. Maybe aren't quite so evolved on it but I know there are some great people in the NFL working on it. I'm obsessed with Sam Rappaport. I think she's like such a little baller and change things. So terrific tremendous tremendous respect for her She's she is terrific. But again you you say that I appreciate you saying the kind words but it really it again. It goes back to what I was saying differently but similarly tell me about bill and the time of the browns doing the quality work believing inequality is really it. It's really pretty simple right. It's not it should be. It should be it. Should be and it Kennedy. So you mentioned earlier. We have to do this another. We're clearly going to because there's so much to get to but we are out of time now so you have to do. The one thing that everybody does and nobody expects the.

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"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

12:59 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

"What do you see that you can tell from afar? You're you're a five time executive of the year. I know you're not within those buildings. But if you are able to provide vied some some insight from afar what do you see that tells you. That's my that's not working. I think there's not a commitment to it. He you know. I think one of the things that bill bill and I knew there was a group of US went up to the Patriots together and the people that went to New England because there was a lot of noise surrounding rounding bill. You know that He. He had resigned from the jets and he fell in Cleveland. Everyone was beating him up. There was a group of us that signed on. What was it? You know a mission that if we didn't succeed we may never work again right. We had left the family etc.. I I bring that up to answer the question because I think that sometimes what happens with other people. Is there too quick to change. After year. One in New England we were five and eleven and we started off poorly in two thousand one and there were talks that we were getting fired. I will give Robert. Credit Robert Kraft and the rest of his family credit for sticking with US and believing us and seeing it through now to where we fortune to get that first super bowl in the second year. Yes but everyone when new that we were a terrific team but not that talented. I Guess Sarah is it. People don't stick and stay committed and I say people people and and and I don't know who the people are whether it's ownership whether it's for an office whether it's coaches they go in with a plan and when things get crazy what I've seen too many times in some of those dysfunctional organizations from afar what it appears to me is that the survival is takeover and instead of being I'm willing to Failed together they separate and try to survive and save their own jobs. Whether whether it's front office Ching Scouting Cap all that some people try and they they they try for Turf grads right right or they become survival is I mean when things got wonky. In New England there was an opportunity for people to choose different paths myself included. My Path Path was always going to be with bill. That's just the way it was Charlie Weis Path was always going to be with bill bears. Jerry was always going to be with bill. We stuck together gather truly in the toughest moments and we my bill and I took that job together. We knew that we were either going to succeed together or fail together. See have a ton of success zest and you're with bill in all these spots and then you end up going to the chiefs so tell me about the decision to go somewhere new and find success without bill. Yeah I think. In retrospect a lot of things I should have thought through better. You know I'm a bit of a a a much more sentimental than people would believe a bit of a Softie so there was. There were a handful of organizations in my mind that if they ever reached out to me there are organizations histories and rich histories. I want to be part of when the Kansas City chiefs came calling I was like wow. That's the Kansas City chiefs so it was a jeff. Maybe the second time that I decided that I wanted to listen to Something I also felt Illinois had been together seventeen years at that point. I WanNa say it was and nine years together New England. I was still young. Gosh so that was yeah. I'm still in my you know my early forties mid forties and I just felt like it was like it was time for change. There was no big reason. Wanted another challenge and that was really really the crux of it and then after spending time with the hunt family with Clark especially I was like this. This looks like something I want to try to do So I made the jump trump and when I say I was torn that would be the understatement of the year so I jumped at the opportunity. Yeah see had incredible success at the beginning there One of your five executive of the year honors as you went from worst to first getting a division title one tenant six and then they were but then there were some low moments there too and there were people who blamed you for those the moments. What's that like because it is? What have you done for me lately? You could show you something great for a team and immediately people will hire planes raised banners about wanting to fire you. Yeah you know Sara. I did some things right there and I did a lot of things wrong there and some of the things that I did wrong and did a poor job above where some of the more critical things right as I was saying earlier. It's never any one thing That leads to success or failure. It's usually accumulation humilation of things and and I made mistakes. I upset some people which is why you have banners save our chiefs fire appeal you have moments where there. There were a lot of mistakes because there were certain things that I none of us has ever prepared to become a head coach or general manager. There's on the job training raining in your first time and there were a number of things I failed. I failed it my relationships with the media I had never engaged or interacted with the media before I came from a family of its psychology. WanNa one you see how something is done you see rewarded and you see success. Yes so you do it that way. It's one of those subconscious things and I when I went there. I did not want to be the face or the front of the franchise or one of the faces aces. I wanted to be the general manager and the personnel guy and find the players and let the head coach and players. Be The fun. That was one of the mistakes I made by. Not engaging the media in in a respectful and appropriate way Not that I was trying to be disrespectful. I just didn't WanNa do it. I wanted to be a football guy. You know you mentioned that early success success in in in what happened two thousand to win the Division Championship in our second year and the executive year ward. Here's one of the things. I learned a high school coach. Told me When we were having success and I was having personal success he said you know what's got you never as good as they say there's going to be some really really dark days as and you're never gonNA be as bad as they say so don't set yourself too high a pedestal? When they're telling you how wonderful you are but also don't go down in that valley? He he said the truth is all pretty average and we have good days and bad days and it was interesting because you know in two thousand ten you know in my early years at the Patriots When you know there were some of the accolades and the success in the championships? Everyone was talking about on. How smarter was and boy genius and all that garbage? I didn't buy into it but the truth is that kind of felt good. The truth is I was never that smart part as people were trying to tell me than the other realities in two thousand ten eleven and twelve when I got ripped to shreds and gutted because because of the the failure I really wasn't that dumber bad right and and it was a great lesson that came home years as leader so I was never smart. They said I was also never or as dumb as they said. Well and also it's frustrating because as someone who whose job it is to pick personnel and find the players that are going to do the best and invest in coaches. That you've that you believe in you don't actually get to go out there and play so uh-huh you know you're working with the Falcons for instance and I can't imagine the heartbreak of that Falcons super bowl loss. You're playing against your team. You've got this big lead. I mean it hurts me for no other reason that I was just sick of the pats winning everything and I was like. Oh they got this. This is great. What how is this happening but you put this team in a perfect perfect position? They were successful. They made it all the way. And then you can't do anything as you're watching. Whatever coaching mistakes? Whatever player mistakes are being made out on the field but that reflects on you in ways that you know it still looks great? You're the guy in charge when the team makes the Super Bowl. But how do you sort of reconcile missile. That that you can put everything into place but you can't be the one to bring it home but that's part of it though not to and you know when you're it's interesting you say first of all. I'll say this that. That was a heartbreak. But you know I've lost. I've been part of losing two super bowls and both times. It has been an epic fashion. So is the one one with Falcons. When we're up twenty eight to three loss at one but remember I was also part of the Sixteen in Oh season when you know and law and because because we didn't just lose the Super Bowl that year we didn't just lose a game we lost history? And I gotTa Tell You As awful as twenty eight to three was Because of my role at the Patriots and what was really wrapped up in all of that the other one was tougher lose so I know how to lose now to. I know how to win but I sure don't lose as well there But but back to your question it's Because of my personality I hear what you're saying in in terms of you put the players out there that the players do their job and let the coaches do the coaching again. I'm such a team guy that I don't believe that. The loss is on just best players or just coaching. Because there's so much that goes into success and failure prior to a game in a moment because people say okay you ah look at how that went. Why didn't they do this? Why didn't they you know? Why wasn't the clock management? But you know the people that say that my feeling when I hear those was comments I feel. Why didn't we do a better job as an organization and have more discussions and see the holes that we had the lead that to happen on that particular Sunday so even though I'm sitting up in a box watching players playing watching coaches make decisions? This is a team effort. This is a collaborative thing. This is one of the most beautiful parts about football. Why have why a fall in love with it is because you you do things together? You don't succeed alone alone. You don't fail alone so when people want to blame something on a coach or a player to me. It's like okay I it's like in your family. Well you know when when when people do something or things. Don't go well where where were the or any group of people. Where would the adults in the room? Right where were the people with the voices. That had voices is to keep this from happening. And I say that Sarah because I go back to the Patriots model and you've just triggered this automate. I think you're going back to one of your original questions. Why did I love working for bill and WANNA work with bill and be a partner with bill because Bill Belichick is one of the best listeners that I've ever been around and even though he you know you talk about we shared the role of GM? That's part of the beauty of being with bill when I was in that role even though he had the authority to have all final decisions just like he does with his coaches and coordinators. He Trust people enough to let them make decisions. And as long as you have vetted it and have a smart reason and and saying ticket nonscientific reasons for doing things. They were a lot of success because of the collaboration at the Patriots. And so so. That's why I believe that. It's never one person's fault that loses a game or it's not a coach's fault again at some point in time the general manager and the other people the other adults in the room have an opportunity to stand up and say something if it you know if they don't think things are going the right way and say something about it or they don't and yeah well and also I know that I hope that makes sense early totally makes sense but I think also something that I was thinking about as you're talking to is if you think to yourself I've put these players in a great position and they're successful. Why did they fail me now? You have to think about the players that you drafted really low and well outperformed outperformed your expectations. And what was expected of them because they reflect so greatly on you for the work that they put in and how successful they are and they are just as much you know you have to focus as much on the ones that out did what you expected them as the ones that failed you otherwise. It's a constant failure. Yeah Sara Lee I mean that's a brilliant point because it's not only did the players you know out kick their coverage but the people the coaches and the infrastructure infrastructure that.

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"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

10:48 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

"What do you see that you can tell from afar? You're you're a five time executive of the year. I know you're not within those buildings. But if you are able to provide vied some some insight from afar what do you see that tells you. That's my that's not working. I think there's not a commitment to it. He you know. I think one of the things that bill bill and I knew there was a group of US went up to the Patriots together and the people that went to New England because there was a lot of noise surrounding rounding bill. You know that He. He had resigned from the jets and he fell in Cleveland. Everyone was beating him up. There was a group of us that signed on. What was it? You know a mission that if we didn't succeed we may never work again right. We had left the family etc.. I I bring that up to answer the question because I think that sometimes what happens with other people. Is there too quick to change. After year. One in New England we were five and eleven and we started off poorly in two thousand one and there were talks that we were getting fired. I will give Robert. Credit Robert Kraft and the rest of his family credit for sticking with US and believing us and seeing it through now to where we fortune to get that first super bowl in the second year. Yes but everyone when new that we were a terrific team but not that talented. I Guess Sarah is it. People don't stick and stay committed and I say people people and and and I don't know who the people are whether it's ownership whether it's for an office whether it's coaches they go in with a plan and when things get crazy what I've seen too many times in some of those dysfunctional organizations from afar what it appears to me is that the survival is takeover and instead of being I'm willing to Failed together they separate and try to survive and save their own jobs. Whether whether it's front office Ching Scouting Cap all that some people try and they they they try for Turf grads right right or they become survival is I mean when things got wonky. In New England there was an opportunity for people to choose different paths myself included. My Path Path was always going to be with bill. That's just the way it was Charlie Weis Path was always going to be with bill bears. Jerry was always going to be with bill. We stuck together gather truly in the toughest moments and we my bill and I took that job together. We knew that we were either going to succeed together or fail together. See have a ton of success zest and you're with bill in all these spots and then you end up going to the chiefs so tell me about the decision to go somewhere new and find success without bill. Yeah I think. In retrospect a lot of things I should have thought through better. You know I'm a bit of a a a much more sentimental than people would believe a bit of a Softie so there was. There were a handful of organizations in my mind that if they ever reached out to me there are organizations histories and rich histories. I want to be part of when the Kansas City chiefs came calling I was like wow. That's the Kansas City chiefs so it was a jeff. Maybe the second time that I decided that I wanted to listen to Something I also felt Illinois had been together seventeen years at that point. I WanNa say it was and nine years together New England. I was still young. Gosh so that was yeah. I'm still in my you know my early forties mid forties and I just felt like it was like it was time for change. There was no big reason. Wanted another challenge and that was really really the crux of it and then after spending time with the hunt family with Clark especially I was like this. This looks like something I want to try to do So I made the jump trump and when I say I was torn that would be the understatement of the year so I jumped at the opportunity. Yeah see had incredible success at the beginning there One of your five executive of the year honors as you went from worst to first getting a division title one tenant six and then they were but then there were some low moments there too and there were people who blamed you for those the moments. What's that like because it is? What have you done for me lately? You could show you something great for a team and immediately people will hire planes raised banners about wanting to fire you. Yeah you know Sara. I did some things right there and I did a lot of things wrong there and some of the things that I did wrong and did a poor job above where some of the more critical things right as I was saying earlier. It's never any one thing That leads to success or failure. It's usually accumulation humilation of things and and I made mistakes. I upset some people which is why you have banners save our chiefs fire appeal you have moments where there. There were a lot of mistakes because there were certain things that I none of us has ever prepared to become a head coach or general manager. There's on the job training raining in your first time and there were a number of things I failed. I failed it my relationships with the media I had never engaged or interacted with the media before I came from a family of its psychology. WanNa one you see how something is done you see rewarded and you see success. Yes so you do it that way. It's one of those subconscious things and I when I went there. I did not want to be the face or the front of the franchise or one of the faces aces. I wanted to be the general manager and the personnel guy and find the players and let the head coach and players. Be The fun. That was one of the mistakes I made by. Not engaging the media in in a respectful and appropriate way Not that I was trying to be disrespectful. I just didn't WanNa do it. I wanted to be a football guy. You know you mentioned that early success success in in in what happened two thousand to win the Division Championship in our second year and the executive year ward. Here's one of the things. I learned a high school coach. Told me When we were having success and I was having personal success he said you know what's got you never as good as they say there's going to be some really really dark days as and you're never gonNA be as bad as they say so don't set yourself too high a pedestal? When they're telling you how wonderful you are but also don't go down in that valley? He he said the truth is all pretty average and we have good days and bad days and it was interesting because you know in two thousand ten you know in my early years at the Patriots When you know there were some of the accolades and the success in the championships? Everyone was talking about on. How smarter was and boy genius and all that garbage? I didn't buy into it but the truth is that kind of felt good. The truth is I was never that smart part as people were trying to tell me than the other realities in two thousand ten eleven and twelve when I got ripped to shreds and gutted because because of the the failure I really wasn't that dumber bad right and and it was a great lesson that came home years as leader so I was never smart. They said I was also never or as dumb as they said. Well and also it's frustrating because as someone who whose job it is to pick personnel and find the players that are going to do the best and invest in coaches. That you've that you believe in you don't actually get to go out there and play so uh-huh you know you're working with the Falcons for instance and I can't imagine the heartbreak of that Falcons super bowl loss. You're playing against your team. You've got this big lead. I mean it hurts me for no other reason that I was just sick of the pats winning everything and I was like. Oh they got this. This is great. What how is this happening but you put this team in a perfect perfect position? They were successful. They made it all the way. And then you can't do anything as you're watching. Whatever coaching mistakes? Whatever player mistakes are being made out on the field but that reflects on you in ways that you know it still looks great? You're the guy in charge when the team makes the Super Bowl. But how do you sort of reconcile missile. That that you can put everything into place but you can't be the one to bring it home but that's part of it though not to and you know when you're it's interesting you say first of all. I'll say this that. That was a heartbreak. But you know I've lost. I've been part of losing two super bowls and both times. It has been an epic fashion. So is the one one with Falcons. When we're up twenty eight to three loss at one but remember I was also part of the Sixteen in Oh season when you know and law and because because we didn't just lose the Super Bowl that year we didn't just lose a game we lost history? And I gotTa Tell You As awful as twenty eight to three was Because of my role at the Patriots and what was really wrapped up in all of that the other one was tougher lose so I know how to lose now to. I know how to win but I sure don't lose as well there But but back to your question it's Because of my personality I hear what you're saying in in terms of you put the players out there that the players do their job and let the coaches do the coaching again. I'm such a team guy that I don't believe that. The loss is on just best players or just coaching. Because there's so much that goes into success and failure prior to a game in a moment because people say okay you ah look at how that went. Why didn't they do this? Why didn't they you know? Why wasn't the clock management? But you know the people that say that my feeling when I hear those was comments I feel. Why didn't we do a better job as an organization and have more discussions and see the holes that we had the lead that to happen on that particular Sunday so even though I'm sitting up in a box watching players playing watching coaches make decisions? This is a team effort. This is a collaborative thing. This is one of the most beautiful parts about football. Why have why a fall in love with it is because you you do things together? You don't succeed alone alone. You don't fail alone so when people want to blame something on a coach or a player to me. It's like okay I it's like in your family. Well you know when when when people do something or things. Don't go well where where were the or any group of people. Where would the adults in the room? Right where were the people with the voices..

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"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

13:23 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

"That I've been a part of because it had a attached so much success for so many people but the reality is when we stack our board that year again stepping back our roster at that point in time when we arrived at the Patriots we had forty one players on the roster but we were ten and a half million dollars over the CAP. We had to drop back to thirty. I'm players restructure contracts and got down to thirty nine players but we're under the CAP so as we're starting to spring of two thousand. We've we've got thirty nine players. We've got bill. The roster to eighty and only certain number draft picks. Yeah and the reality is we had three quarterbacks ax where we were just trying to fill the roster point time I wanna say we probably had close to what was an an NFL record that year in signing we signed twenty seven or twenty nine rookie free agents just to fill our roster after that draft. Because we didn't have the money to sign veterans but going back to Tommy. We started talking talking about him in the third or fourth round. But it wasn't really relevant because what we did have was three players. We had three quarterbacks on the Roster Austin we had drew bledsoe John Freeze and Michael Bishop so we needed to fill the roster. What we didn't need was another quarterback and we didn't need to spend a draft pick on a quarterback? The thing is we kept talking about Brady by the time we got to the sixth round. I want to say before we took. We took another corner We had two who picks in the sixth round and At one point we're sitting there like he was so separated as visually as you're looking at the board. He was so far far to the left. And there were all these other players mixed. We're talking about. We got to the point where we said. Okay we know we need players based on need but if we don't draft what we believe is the best player available at this moment. You know. Let's not be done about it. And the process of Scouting Brady a lot of people like them. You know our quarterbacks backs coach at the time was in Joan by the name of Dick ray-ban who unfortunately passed away in Tommy second season he had a heart attack and training camp and passed away. But Dick ray-ban went worked out loved Him Charlie White offense coordinator had watched him loved him. Ernie Adams Myself. Everyone liked him but we also didn't see anything rare or special to force us to pick him sooner than that but it did come down to a point where we kept on talking about this guy we have to take off the board at some point so when you saw him up there would at that moment would you have said if someone had grabbed him because you would waited and tried to fill out the roster before taking him. How disappointed would you have been? was there something inside of you on this guy. Would it have been. We really thought that you know yes. I think all of us would have been. I'm disappointed if we didn't take them at that point in time because everyone liked him enough. You know what I mean I. It wasn't going to be just myself being disappointed and again again. Because here's the thing is it's never just one person that drafts a player and there was responsible for player. You know there were still other people there from the previous staff. I mean Bobby Grier was still on the staff right. He had been the general manager and been demoted. And there were other people there that so again it was this collaborative process and I think I think everyone would have been disappointed. Had We left him there at one after one ninety nine which is why I think we decided to take them. Here's what I do know Sarah and I can say this because all the people that say that it's luck it's dumb luck. There was some luck involved. No doubt but I think the one of the things was when we had him in training camp and in the short Rookie minicamp off season. We went into the two thousand one season and at points in time we we had a fifty three man roster. We had only fifty one players. Didn't even have the full amount of practice squad players that were available to us because of cap reasons again we were. We were digging ourselves out of absolute salary CAP. Hell that we inherited even in the second year. What we did is we kept? We had fifty one players on our roster one point time but we had four quarterbacks. We were not going to release Tom Brady because once we got them in the building. We realized that there was something about this kid that was different and that had a future and could be developed now. Did we think he was going to be what it became. No but we thought we had a really good the player that was going to be better and going to be the replacement for drew bledsoe at some point in time so on a fifty one man roster we had we still had you know bledsoe freeze Brady and Michael Bishop so we kept four quarterbacks so we knew something I guess that makes sense. Yeah once we got him. So how do you make such a quick turnaround from salary cap. Hell and immediately start to have success. Excess Oh one oh three Oh four. Because there are teams that haven't even made the postseason and got bounced in the wildcard round as many times as as you were successful in those very early years. How do you turn it around that passed? This is a great question. was doing this question and this is important because when I listened to people give revisionist history history of how we built the Patriots. They forget the most critical year in the most critical season when we were in salary. Cap Hell and we had to part ways with a number of players that were good players and that we liked yet. We couldn't keep them all and what we did in our second year and Sarah this is. We were the first the team. I believe we were the first team that built its roster team through free agency and what we did. We relied on pro personnel now. We knew that we would get some good young players. And we've got a couple of good young players and those first two years and Richard Seymour. Matt Light Brady etc but again. Tommy wasn't brady by that time but in the two thousand one season are we signed veteran free agents we signed. I WanNa say it was twenty five veteran free the agents but we signed players. Because we didn't have any money we didn't have any salary cap space. We focused on players. That were good. The players not high star quality players. Not Big names. We want for substance not sizzle. We went after the Mike Rebels. The market words Anthony Pleasant Defense Department. Bobby Hamilton Defensive Lineman Larry is Oh backup linebacker special teams player. We built the team on the middle class and because we were still saddled with the enormous contract of drew bledsoe of Bruce Armstrong of all of these players that had been given enormous contracts contracts during the the Patriots. Small run to that Super Bowl in ninety six against the Green Bay packers and a lot of those players were rewarded with huge contract. So we had we inherited this this roster that had a bunch of high end high class or high salary players and a bunch of players that were at the absolute minimum we build through the middle class. We were good pro personnel and we brought in a lot of players. That again were a player. Like Mike who is a backup and special teams player at the Pittsburgh steelers. We saw a guy who could be a tremendous player in bill system we also saw player that could coexist with bill. Belichick the person and that's how we built that football team and we signed that year we signed over twenty any players for less than three million dollars in total signing bonuses that point you're not even quote unquote the Patriots yet. Where you can get those guys? Because they know let showing up there is winning offered opportunity though we offered opportunity and offered truth so we told players when they came. Amen listen this is going to be a dog fight. We're not telling you that you're coming in to be the starter we're telling you that you're coming in to compete for to be a real competition for for a starting position and there were no politics involved. We weren't GonNa you know no one was gonNA keep a job because their salary was more and no one's GonNa keep a job because they were drafted in a certain level it was a true meritocracy and we created a system that was a meritocracy and we played the players deserve to play. Brian Cox. Those those players and now I'll tell you this. It rubbed a number of the players wrong. That were that we inherited not everyone doug that but we didn't care here because our job was to win games not to play favorites so when you look back at your time with the Patriots and you look at the success they continue to have. You've now can you even look at an organization like that and explain why it works well every other team in the NFL wants to know how. How can we do this? Why are we constantly rehiring coaches and starting fresh and can't find a quarterback and is it as simple as if you have the world's best quarterback in the world's world's best coach you just gotTa make good decisions and filling the pieces around them I think and this is this is probably overly philosophical? I think that part of the the problem is that people do try to over simplify certain things not that you WanNa make it complicated. But you can't look at something and say this is the one reason why it worked through this. The one reason why it didn't work you know things in life are generally speaking a combination of things now has bill belichick become The greatest coach in NFL history one hundred percent was he a tremendous coach. That became coach during that time. Yes is brady the greatest as quarterback of all time. I believe he is although I don't necessarily like to talk about all time. Comparisons those two things are true but I also think during the process Ossis of arriving to that place. It wasn't always that way right. Those first couple of years Tom that I won the Super Bowl Tom Brady was. He was above average quarterback they had some good moments and we had a terrific defense. We had an opportunistic defense. We had a snowball game. That went our way you know. I think people tried to take They try to reduce things down to Saying it's anyone thing what we did was we built a system. We built a program and then we continue due to hire people grow people and we did it on the personnel side. We did on the coaching side. We did it on the players side and I think what's consistently happened with that organization. Is that everyone who's been there. Take so much ownership in their role role while they're there that they are selfless. We were selfless in teaching and training everyone to someday take our job whether whether it was players whether it was coaches whether it was myself and other scouts there was a true team element. That's what I think is rare about the Patriots and what was done and I don't know if that makes sense Aaron what I'm saying and constants have been bill and Tom Wright and they've they've also been surrounded by people that have been trained in the same way that believe in the system and the core values of the system So when there is when players and coaches in front office people and scouts depart the next person up is generally someone's been trained and within the family. That's something you talked about. Anatomy shines podcasts. About guys work their way up through the system in New England. Stay there of course. That is a difficult habit to replicate elsewhere if there isn't the long jetty of a head coach or other pieces right if there's constant turnover it's hard to have through line of people who have been built and and came up through the same system but if you can do it obviously it feels like it's. It's a successful formula. At least based on what the Patriots have been to do. And it's Ah no mistake about you know. Being in that system is a hard life. I was a part of it for seventeen years and the strong survive right and not that program that system that way of life of doing things is really in certain ways so simple yet. It's difficult difficult. It's a difficult lifestyle to live from what we hear from the outside. Yeah it is. It is but it's a lot of discipline but Sarah it's it's it is but it is because the truth is it comes down to three things and these were bills three basic tenants. When I got to Cleveland beyond time pay attention work hard if you do those things in life and you approach your professional life with that much? Simplicity the things that manifest themselves out of those three simple disciplines can be pretty spectacular. Like you said it's simple. You would imagine that plenty of other coaches and front office. People would be trying to preach the same things things so when you look across the teams like say the browns or the jets teams that over. The recent history have struggled so much. There's a constant change in who's in charge and WHO's is dependent on..

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"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

13:23 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

"That I've been a part of because it had a attached so much success for so many people but the reality is when we stack our board that year again stepping back our roster at that point in time when we arrived at the Patriots we had forty one players on the roster but we were ten and a half million dollars over the CAP. We had to drop back to thirty. I'm players restructure contracts and got down to thirty nine players but we're under the CAP so as we're starting to spring of two thousand. We've we've got thirty nine players. We've got bill. The roster to eighty and only certain number draft picks. Yeah and the reality is we had three quarterbacks ax where we were just trying to fill the roster point time I wanna say we probably had close to what was an an NFL record that year in signing we signed twenty seven or twenty nine rookie free agents just to fill our roster after that draft. Because we didn't have the money to sign veterans but going back to Tommy. We started talking talking about him in the third or fourth round. But it wasn't really relevant because what we did have was three players. We had three quarterbacks on the Roster Austin we had drew bledsoe John Freeze and Michael Bishop so we needed to fill the roster. What we didn't need was another quarterback and we didn't need to spend a draft pick on a quarterback? The thing is we kept talking about Brady by the time we got to the sixth round. I want to say before we took. We took another corner We had two who picks in the sixth round and At one point we're sitting there like he was so separated as visually as you're looking at the board. He was so far far to the left. And there were all these other players mixed. We're talking about. We got to the point where we said. Okay we know we need players based on need but if we don't draft what we believe is the best player available at this moment. You know. Let's not be done about it. And the process of Scouting Brady a lot of people like them. You know our quarterbacks backs coach at the time was in Joan by the name of Dick ray-ban who unfortunately passed away in Tommy second season he had a heart attack and training camp and passed away. But Dick ray-ban went worked out loved Him Charlie White offense coordinator had watched him loved him. Ernie Adams Myself. Everyone liked him but we also didn't see anything rare or special to force us to pick him sooner than that but it did come down to a point where we kept on talking about this guy we have to take off the board at some point so when you saw him up there would at that moment would you have said if someone had grabbed him because you would waited and tried to fill out the roster before taking him. How disappointed would you have been? was there something inside of you on this guy. Would it have been. We really thought that you know yes. I think all of us would have been. I'm disappointed if we didn't take them at that point in time because everyone liked him enough. You know what I mean I. It wasn't going to be just myself being disappointed and again again. Because here's the thing is it's never just one person that drafts a player and there was responsible for player. You know there were still other people there from the previous staff. I mean Bobby Grier was still on the staff right. He had been the general manager and been demoted. And there were other people there that so again it was this collaborative process and I think I think everyone would have been disappointed. Had We left him there at one after one ninety nine which is why I think we decided to take them. Here's what I do know Sarah and I can say this because all the people that say that it's luck it's dumb luck. There was some luck involved. No doubt but I think the one of the things was when we had him in training camp and in the short Rookie minicamp off season. We went into the two thousand one season and at points in time we we had a fifty three man roster. We had only fifty one players. Didn't even have the full amount of practice squad players that were available to us because of cap reasons again we were. We were digging ourselves out of absolute salary CAP. Hell that we inherited even in the second year. What we did is we kept? We had fifty one players on our roster one point time but we had four quarterbacks. We were not going to release Tom Brady because once we got them in the building. We realized that there was something about this kid that was different and that had a future and could be developed now. Did we think he was going to be what it became. No but we thought we had a really good the player that was going to be better and going to be the replacement for drew bledsoe at some point in time so on a fifty one man roster we had we still had you know bledsoe freeze Brady and Michael Bishop so we kept four quarterbacks so we knew something I guess that makes sense. Yeah once we got him. So how do you make such a quick turnaround from salary cap. Hell and immediately start to have success. Excess Oh one oh three Oh four. Because there are teams that haven't even made the postseason and got bounced in the wildcard round as many times as as you were successful in those very early years. How do you turn it around that passed? This is a great question. was doing this question and this is important because when I listened to people give revisionist history history of how we built the Patriots. They forget the most critical year in the most critical season when we were in salary. Cap Hell and we had to part ways with a number of players that were good players and that we liked yet. We couldn't keep them all and what we did in our second year and Sarah this is. We were the first the team. I believe we were the first team that built its roster team through free agency and what we did. We relied on pro personnel now. We knew that we would get some good young players. And we've got a couple of good young players and those first two years and Richard Seymour. Matt Light Brady etc but again. Tommy wasn't brady by that time but in the two thousand one season are we signed veteran free agents we signed. I WanNa say it was twenty five veteran free the agents but we signed players. Because we didn't have any money we didn't have any salary cap space. We focused on players. That were good. The players not high star quality players. Not Big names. We want for substance not sizzle. We went after the Mike Rebels. The market words Anthony Pleasant Defense Department. Bobby Hamilton Defensive Lineman Larry is Oh backup linebacker special teams player. We built the team on the middle class and because we were still saddled with the enormous contract of drew bledsoe of Bruce Armstrong of all of these players that had been given enormous contracts contracts during the the Patriots. Small run to that Super Bowl in ninety six against the Green Bay packers and a lot of those players were rewarded with huge contract. So we had we inherited this this roster that had a bunch of high end high class or high salary players and a bunch of players that were at the absolute minimum we build through the middle class. We were good pro personnel and we brought in a lot of players. That again were a player. Like Mike who is a backup and special teams player at the Pittsburgh steelers. We saw a guy who could be a tremendous player in bill system we also saw player that could coexist with bill. Belichick the person and that's how we built that football team and we signed that year we signed over twenty any players for less than three million dollars in total signing bonuses that point you're not even quote unquote the Patriots yet. Where you can get those guys? Because they know let showing up there is winning offered opportunity though we offered opportunity and offered truth so we told players when they came. Amen listen this is going to be a dog fight. We're not telling you that you're coming in to be the starter we're telling you that you're coming in to compete for to be a real competition for for a starting position and there were no politics involved. We weren't GonNa you know no one was gonNA keep a job because their salary was more and no one's GonNa keep a job because they were drafted in a certain level it was a true meritocracy and we created a system that was a meritocracy and we played the players deserve to play. Brian Cox. Those those players and now I'll tell you this. It rubbed a number of the players wrong. That were that we inherited not everyone doug that but we didn't care here because our job was to win games not to play favorites so when you look back at your time with the Patriots and you look at the success they continue to have. You've now can you even look at an organization like that and explain why it works well every other team in the NFL wants to know how. How can we do this? Why are we constantly rehiring coaches and starting fresh and can't find a quarterback and is it as simple as if you have the world's best quarterback in the world's world's best coach you just gotTa make good decisions and filling the pieces around them I think and this is this is probably overly philosophical? I think that part of the the problem is that people do try to over simplify certain things not that you WanNa make it complicated. But you can't look at something and say this is the one reason why it worked through this. The one reason why it didn't work you know things in life are generally speaking a combination of things now has bill belichick become The greatest coach in NFL history one hundred percent was he a tremendous coach. That became coach during that time. Yes is brady the greatest as quarterback of all time. I believe he is although I don't necessarily like to talk about all time. Comparisons those two things are true but I also think during the process Ossis of arriving to that place. It wasn't always that way right. Those first couple of years Tom that I won the Super Bowl Tom Brady was. He was above average quarterback they had some good moments and we had a terrific defense. We had an opportunistic defense. We had a snowball game. That went our way you know. I think people tried to take They try to reduce things down to Saying it's anyone thing what we did was we built a system. We built a program and then we continue due to hire people grow people and we did it on the personnel side. We did on the coaching side. We did it on the players side and I think what's consistently happened with that organization. Is that everyone who's been there. Take so much ownership in their role role while they're there that they are selfless. We were selfless in teaching and training everyone to someday take our job whether whether it was players whether it was coaches whether it was myself and other scouts there was a true team element. That's what I think is rare about the Patriots and what was done and I don't know if that makes sense Aaron what I'm saying and constants have been bill and Tom Wright and they've they've also been surrounded by people that have been trained in the same way that believe in the system and the core values of the system So when there is when players and coaches in front office people and scouts depart the next person up is generally someone's been trained and within the family. That's something you talked about. Anatomy shines podcasts. About guys work their way up through the system in New England. Stay there of course. That is a difficult habit to replicate elsewhere if there isn't the long jetty of a head coach or other pieces right if there's constant turnover it's hard to have through line of people who have been built and and came up through the same system but if you can do it obviously it feels like it's. It's a successful formula. At least based on what the Patriots have been to do. And it's Ah no mistake about you know. Being in that system is a hard life. I was a part of it for seventeen years and the strong survive right and not that program that system that way of life of doing things is really in certain ways so simple yet. It's difficult difficult. It's a difficult lifestyle to live from what we hear from the outside. Yeah it is. It is but it's a lot of discipline but Sarah it's it's it is but it is because the truth is it comes down to three things and these were bills three basic tenants. When I got to Cleveland beyond time pay attention work hard if you do those things in life and you approach your professional life with that much? Simplicity the things that manifest themselves out of those three simple disciplines can be pretty spectacular. Like you said it's simple. You would imagine that plenty of other coaches and front office. People would be trying to preach the same things things so when you look across the teams like say the browns or the jets teams that over. The recent history have struggled so much. There's a constant change in who's in charge and WHO's is dependent on..

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"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

12:02 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

"Yeah I mean that's the story of so many women at different times in history but oh gosh yeah attention to it. It can be very inspiring for sure and it's it certainly sounds like I'm sure that's part of the reason that the the work you're doing now but we'll get to that later so you mentioned that you would drive ninety minutes to the giants training camp when you were a student bell. Check was the defensive coordinator at the time kind of took a liking to your hard work and your desire to to to make the track and show every day and that came back around later. But but I you leave college and decide to get a master's at Syracuse right and become a graduate assistant for the football team at the time. The stole was the dream of becoming a coach. Yeah so here's a weird thing happened my last Couple of semesters of school though Sarah You Know I. I loved football and was opened up to this swirled. Communications became a television film. Major and it was opened up to this whole world that I didn't know anything about and interesting. That's why I refer to you when you asked about interest I had growing up. I kind of let my guard down. You know when I was in college and started hanging out with non-football people And people people within my major that were communications majors and they were very different from me right. They listen to different music. They socialized differently. It was a really cool eye opening experience experience. And you know attorney that we attended film festivals and did it was just a very cool. I lead this double life the football player and then also this person that finally got exposed to the arts and things I had secretly loved but really hadn't engaged in so when I went to When I was looking to become a graduate assistant coach I was actually actually in my last year and final semester myself? I had a little bit of an identity crisis okay. Football was over. I was mad. Had that football was over but I knew I wanted to coach but then there was this other world that I was open up to. Why don't I look at schools that have good communication programs and and was fortunate? I didn't ever think that I'd get his shot to go to Syracuse and you get into the new house school But I did and it was really cool because I was able to get my masters You know be a graduate assistant coach for two years Have Two more years of scholarship and get I'm master's degree From the newhouse school. But I'll tell you it's a much longer story we're GONNA have to do a second show but I started. I started in the summer of nineteen eighty eight after I graduated and had to go to school early because my GPA wasn't high enough to get admitted into a new house. So I did three core classes that summer and then finally the lovely people newhouse at. Oh yes we'll take you in now and and so I started but then I was offered a fulltime job before completed. And it's a long story that I won't get into but I did not complete all the course work until nineteen ninety eight. Oh Wow I left Syracuse. Every single year I had to reapply to keep my file active and completed the coursework. But then this is crazy. I did not take my comps until two thousand and five so I started that degree in nineteen eighty eight but swore that I was not you know that was going to finish it and I finally completed in two thousand and five live is one. I was working in the vice president player personnel with the Patriots. Great that's Great. Yeah so the Patriots. Let's get back to that so you you work as an ah a assistant and coordinator level a couple of places but then you get hired by Belichick with the browns and this was now not a odd coaching position. This was a front office position. So what was the switch. And what made you willing or maybe interested in leaving the coaching side and getting to the front office a couple of weeks. Sarah you know I loved coaching and in College. So I coach for Four Years in College I love coaching. I loved evaluating players. Lok Recruiting you know no I. I didn't have anything but football my life at that point in time and I actually think I was better evaluator of talent and I was a coach. I I could coach well in terms of technique fundamentals relationships but I was not a game plan guy and when I got to the browns when and ballot check hired me. I didn't care what I was doing. and He kinda hired me. He said to me. Listen I don't know what the job entails. I don't know what the title is. I can't give you a day. Today's schedule but I want you here. And you're going to do a little bit of everything and I'll never forget one of the greatest quote bill that He said to me just looked at me and said listen. I don't know what you're GonNa do but the more you can do the more you can do. I looked at it like yeah. I didn't know what you're saying or what it meant. And and I said yes me up and I took this job and he had me everywhere. I was doing stuff helping coaches. I was helping in player personnel and then it was the first year also that the new CBA was done in ninety two. And we. You know bill one to you have someone who understood multiple facets of football and business and would maybe think a little bit differently so I learned the salary cap and and was in a very fortunate place in very fortunate timing and honestly I just felt like I was more. I was better and more helpful working in personnel than I was coaching. Yeah so so you start with the browns and Belichick but then when they moved to Baltimore after the ninety five season used stick around around with them become a part of the raven staff and you become pro personnel coordinator. And then you leave though and you and you rejoin ballot check as he goes to the jets. Let's you become the director of pro personnel for them and then again when Bella Chick accepts the Patriots head coaching spot you become the VP of player personnel in New England. So so there is a deep tie there that goes beyond him liking the way that you worked and showed up as a college student or even liking working with you with the browns and and anywhere else he went. Why do you think there was this tie that kept you following or or him bringing you along wherever he went? Wow He would probably have to answer that. From my standpoint it was bill was always all about football and that was what I wanted to be about. I think we were in lockstep that way and we had a really good professional relationship but ours transcended transcended the professional and we were good personal friends and close friends as well. I think we saw a lot of the world Particularly the football world very very similarly and I also think that we had enough differences where we were not only compatible but we also complemented limited one another well. I don't know his reasons. I just know that he was happy with the work that I did and side. Why was it worth continuing to go? where he was instead of maybe staying with the Ravens or staying with the jets? When he left wasn't an option for you or were you always sort of tied? Hi Downturns of you know. I had known him since college. And he provided me with opportunities and I'm extremely loyal person and I I always felt like it was learning and learning working with him and it was fun. You know and again we believe a lot of the same things. We had some of the core values about the game about keeping certain things so simple in terms of being on time paying attention working hard and I think you know I left the I left the Ravens because he you know people forget bill was the head coach of the New York jets two separate times but never coached a game and after that first year ninety six even though I was working with Ozzy bill called Ozzy. And I'll never forget Ozzie. Said Hey listen your boy called and I want you here but I think it would be a good idea if you we're back with your guy bill so I went and so Bella check was the head coach for a couple of days and then parcells became the head coach. Bill and I had an office right next to one another that had adore between us during those three years at the jets. And you know we had again we worked together professionally but then when we had downtime we spent a lot of time talking about you know when when things didn't work out in Cleveland we became much closer. Even though we spent that one season part nineteen ninety-six six and we talked about the future and talked about successes. Failures ideas dreams about okay if we ever tried to do something together other this is what it looked like and then the opportunity came with a very weird dynamical tell you Sarah in nineteen ninety nine. I just gotten married in June of nineteen ninety nine. Oh by the way. My Wife's father is parcells. And and that whole fight starts at the end of the ninety nine nine thing when bill is named the head coach again. And then resigns the next day and Bella check you know gets the job at the Patriots and then send the facts due to my father-in-law wanting to bring me to New England Again we don't have enough time for all of that and But it it was one of those things I had this long hard conversation with with bill parcells and I was going to stay in New York because I was under contract and you know my life had now had this other dynamic of loyalty to family but in the end you know again bill. parcells said listen. This is probably probably going to be better for your career. He's your boy. Go on your way so until I received that blessing you know I wasn't sure if I was going to be together now bill and I had I've been talking for years about what it would be some day If I ran the personnel and the contracts and the salary cap and he was the head coach. What a cool partnership it would be and it became came pretty cool partnership I was GonNa say it worked out pretty well So he becomes the PATS head coach in two thousand you become the VP of player personnel. And you win three super bowls together. You kind of split the duties of general manager although bill had the final say on stuff according to the interwebs hopefully they are there and he did. Yeah he did that two thousand season that year very important obviously because of the acquisition of a specific player. Tell me about scouting and selecting. Tom Brady what you knew about him. What you perceived him to become an whether there was disagreement within the room about about when you took them we're taking him at all? Well I it's again a long story but I did see Brady play his senior years matter of fact Adam Shine and I He reminded me. I don't know if you know Adam or not Adam was working at Syracuse at the time and he introduced himself to me in September of nineteen ninety nine and when I was on my way to buffalo to do a An advance pro personnel scouting gig but was in the area and drop by to see this Syracuse Michigan Chicken game and they had this quarterback starting quarterback was this guy by the name of Brady and Then there was his backup drew Henson so that was the first time And if it was a very unremarkable game that he had but I remember seeing him that right and I remember watching him because there was some buzz around his name because of the battle withdrew Hinson in any way taking it to the draft. You know several months later because at that time I was working for the jets when I saw him play and then a couple of months later. Here's here's what I'll say about the drafting of Brady's probably one of the coolest and best most collaborative processes drafting player..

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"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

12:02 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

"Yeah I mean that's the story of so many women at different times in history but oh gosh yeah attention to it. It can be very inspiring for sure and it's it certainly sounds like I'm sure that's part of the reason that the the work you're doing now but we'll get to that later so you mentioned that you would drive ninety minutes to the giants training camp when you were a student bell. Check was the defensive coordinator at the time kind of took a liking to your hard work and your desire to to to make the track and show every day and that came back around later. But but I you leave college and decide to get a master's at Syracuse right and become a graduate assistant for the football team at the time. The stole was the dream of becoming a coach. Yeah so here's a weird thing happened my last Couple of semesters of school though Sarah You Know I. I loved football and was opened up to this swirled. Communications became a television film. Major and it was opened up to this whole world that I didn't know anything about and interesting. That's why I refer to you when you asked about interest I had growing up. I kind of let my guard down. You know when I was in college and started hanging out with non-football people And people people within my major that were communications majors and they were very different from me right. They listen to different music. They socialized differently. It was a really cool eye opening experience experience. And you know attorney that we attended film festivals and did it was just a very cool. I lead this double life the football player and then also this person that finally got exposed to the arts and things I had secretly loved but really hadn't engaged in so when I went to When I was looking to become a graduate assistant coach I was actually actually in my last year and final semester myself? I had a little bit of an identity crisis okay. Football was over. I was mad. Had that football was over but I knew I wanted to coach but then there was this other world that I was open up to. Why don't I look at schools that have good communication programs and and was fortunate? I didn't ever think that I'd get his shot to go to Syracuse and you get into the new house school But I did and it was really cool because I was able to get my masters You know be a graduate assistant coach for two years Have Two more years of scholarship and get I'm master's degree From the newhouse school. But I'll tell you it's a much longer story we're GONNA have to do a second show but I started. I started in the summer of nineteen eighty eight after I graduated and had to go to school early because my GPA wasn't high enough to get admitted into a new house. So I did three core classes that summer and then finally the lovely people newhouse at. Oh yes we'll take you in now and and so I started but then I was offered a fulltime job before completed. And it's a long story that I won't get into but I did not complete all the course work until nineteen ninety eight. Oh Wow I left Syracuse. Every single year I had to reapply to keep my file active and completed the coursework. But then this is crazy. I did not take my comps until two thousand and five so I started that degree in nineteen eighty eight but swore that I was not you know that was going to finish it and I finally completed in two thousand and five live is one. I was working in the vice president player personnel with the Patriots. Great that's Great. Yeah so the Patriots. Let's get back to that so you you work as an ah a assistant and coordinator level a couple of places but then you get hired by Belichick with the browns and this was now not a odd coaching position. This was a front office position. So what was the switch. And what made you willing or maybe interested in leaving the coaching side and getting to the front office a couple of weeks. Sarah you know I loved coaching and in College. So I coach for Four Years in College I love coaching. I loved evaluating players. Lok Recruiting you know no I. I didn't have anything but football my life at that point in time and I actually think I was better evaluator of talent and I was a coach. I I could coach well in terms of technique fundamentals relationships but I was not a game plan guy and when I got to the browns when and ballot check hired me. I didn't care what I was doing. and He kinda hired me. He said to me. Listen I don't know what the job entails. I don't know what the title is. I can't give you a day. Today's schedule but I want you here. And you're going to do a little bit of everything and I'll never forget one of the greatest quote bill that He said to me just looked at me and said listen. I don't know what you're GonNa do but the more you can do the more you can do. I looked at it like yeah. I didn't know what you're saying or what it meant. And and I said yes me up and I took this job and he had me everywhere. I was doing stuff helping coaches. I was helping in player personnel and then it was the first year also that the new CBA was done in ninety two. And we. You know bill one to you have someone who understood multiple facets of football and business and would maybe think a little bit differently so I learned the salary cap and and was in a very fortunate place in very fortunate timing and honestly I just felt like I was more. I was better and more helpful working in personnel than I was coaching. Yeah so so you start with the browns and Belichick but then when they moved to Baltimore after the ninety five season used stick around around with them become a part of the raven staff and you become pro personnel coordinator. And then you leave though and you and you rejoin ballot check as he goes to the jets. Let's you become the director of pro personnel for them and then again when Bella Chick accepts the Patriots head coaching spot you become the VP of player personnel in New England. So so there is a deep tie there that goes beyond him liking the way that you worked and showed up as a college student or even liking working with you with the browns and and anywhere else he went. Why do you think there was this tie that kept you following or or him bringing you along wherever he went? Wow He would probably have to answer that. From my standpoint it was bill was always all about football and that was what I wanted to be about. I think we were in lockstep that way and we had a really good professional relationship but ours transcended transcended the professional and we were good personal friends and close friends as well. I think we saw a lot of the world Particularly the football world very very similarly and I also think that we had enough differences where we were not only compatible but we also complemented limited one another well. I don't know his reasons. I just know that he was happy with the work that I did and side. Why was it worth continuing to go? where he was instead of maybe staying with the Ravens or staying with the jets? When he left wasn't an option for you or were you always sort of tied? Hi Downturns of you know. I had known him since college. And he provided me with opportunities and I'm extremely loyal person and I I always felt like it was learning and learning working with him and it was fun. You know and again we believe a lot of the same things. We had some of the core values about the game about keeping certain things so simple in terms of being on time paying attention working hard and I think you know I left the I left the Ravens because he you know people forget bill was the head coach of the New York jets two separate times but never coached a game and after that first year ninety six even though I was working with Ozzy bill called Ozzy. And I'll never forget Ozzie. Said Hey listen your boy called and I want you here but I think it would be a good idea if you we're back with your guy bill so I went and so Bella check was the head coach for a couple of days and then parcells became the head coach. Bill and I had an office right next to one another that had adore between us during those three years at the jets. And you know we had again we worked together professionally but then when we had downtime we spent a lot of time talking about you know when when things didn't work out in Cleveland we became much closer. Even though we spent that one season part nineteen ninety-six six and we talked about the future and talked about successes. Failures ideas dreams about okay if we ever tried to do something together other this is what it looked like and then the opportunity came with a very weird dynamical tell you Sarah in nineteen ninety nine. I just gotten married in June of nineteen ninety nine. Oh by the way. My Wife's father is parcells. And and that whole fight starts at the end of the ninety nine nine thing when bill is named the head coach again. And then resigns the next day and Bella check you know gets the job at the Patriots and then send the facts due to my father-in-law wanting to bring me to New England Again we don't have enough time for all of that and But it it was one of those things I had this long hard conversation with with bill parcells and I was going to stay in New York because I was under contract and you know my life had now had this other dynamic of loyalty to family but in the end you know again bill. parcells said listen. This is probably probably going to be better for your career. He's your boy. Go on your way so until I received that blessing you know I wasn't sure if I was going to be together now bill and I had I've been talking for years about what it would be some day If I ran the personnel and the contracts and the salary cap and he was the head coach. What a cool partnership it would be and it became came pretty cool partnership I was GonNa say it worked out pretty well So he becomes the PATS head coach in two thousand you become the VP of player personnel. And you win three super bowls together. You kind of split the duties of general manager although bill had the final say on stuff according to the interwebs hopefully they are there and he did. Yeah he did that two thousand season that year very important obviously because of the acquisition of a specific player. Tell me about scouting and selecting. Tom Brady what you knew about him. What you perceived him to become an whether there was disagreement within the room about about when you took them we're taking him at all? Well I it's again a long story but I did see Brady play his senior years matter of fact Adam Shine and I He reminded me. I don't know if you know Adam or not Adam was working at Syracuse at the time and he introduced himself to me in September of nineteen ninety nine and when I was on my way to buffalo to do a An advance pro personnel scouting gig but was in the area and drop by to see this Syracuse Michigan Chicken game and they had this quarterback starting quarterback was this guy by the name of Brady and Then there was his backup drew Henson so that was the first time And if it was a very unremarkable game that he had but I remember seeing him that right and I remember watching him because there was some buzz around his name because of the battle withdrew Hinson in any way taking it to the draft. You know several months later because at that time I was working for the jets when I saw him play and then a couple of months later. Here's here's what I'll say about the drafting of Brady's probably one of the coolest and best most collaborative processes drafting player..

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"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

10:06 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

"That's what she said that's what she said that's what she says what she said. Well that's what she said. Welcome to. That's what she said. Conversations with interesting people from the world of sports music comedy and more talking about their lives careers successes and failures. I'm Scott Pelley and my dilemma is. I've already failed it. My New Year's resolution. It's a dilemma. That can't Dick to philly promises. Mahfouz like eating healthier forty eight hours into a into a new year. Well well well. Isn't this timely Scott. Because last week's episode of this Barry podcasts she said Sarahspain featured my friend Lizzie Cutler. Who gives you the best tips on staying accountable to your resolutions and trying to understand? Understand the reasons why you can't stick to them. One thing that I started doing this year that I haven't done in years past with my resolution. Is I physically wrote them down and I have a journal where each day day. I have to check off whether I accomplished the things that I said I was GonNa do for instance instead of waking up at a certain time trying to wake up about an hour earlier every weekday so that I have have more time during my day to get things done and so every day. If I didn't wake up by the time that I said I can't put a check mark and so I do that for each of the resolutions and hope to be able to. Let's see check marks across the entire week for progress and simultaneously writing down reasons why things might not be a good resolution or might not be doable. How can I just them and tweet them and make them something that I will be able to accomplish everyday so go back? Listened to my podcast with Lizzie. Cutler go back even farther. Listen to my podcast with Gretchen Rubin Who Talks about her book better than before which is all about changing habits and behaviors and then check back in with me? I promise you'll have a better time doing it if you start with those. The commission spoken my guest. Today is Scott PAOLI FIVE-TIME NFL executive of the year of founding member of the bill whilst Diversity Council and was most recently the assistant. General Manager of the Falcons also served as a front office executive for the Browns Ravens jets patriots and chiefs he was the director and later. VP of player personnel for the Patriots creates from. Oh One two zero eight which means he oversaw three super bowl championships. The drafting of Brady on good years there. He's currently working as an NFL analyst for CBS sports and a consultant Salton for the NFL. We had a pretty wide ranging conversation starting out with him getting into coaching and then eventually moving over to the executive side including a degree that took him from one thousand nine hundred. Eighty eight to two thousand. Five's less interesting story. His really special friendship with Bill. Belichick the facts that bill sent to Po. Lease new father-in-law Bill. Bill parcells to get him out of the jets job at onto the Patriots. Great behind the scene stories on drafting. Tom Brady and how they turn that team around. Why the Patriots are so successful? And why other teams like the jets. Brown's can't seem to get out of their own way and also about a teacher of his. That made him the fierce advocate for gender and racial diversity that he is now the work that he's doing on that so you'll love this conversation whether you're an NFL geek or not but especially if you are that's what she said excited to have what I would consider a new friend earned from afar on the podcast. Don't believe we've actually ever met in person although it may have happened years and years ago at some random. NFL event where neither of US knew who the other person was but happy happy to have him on. Now after he's been on my radio show Spain and company a couple of times and a fascinating brain to pick about not just his career and some of the great coaches and players. He's worked worked with succeeded with but also what he's working on now to change the face of the NFL and the foundations endowments and work that he's doing to make the NFL more inclusive which of course As you guys all know US regular listeners is something that's very important to me. Scott Pelley I want to start at the beginning Scott though and we'll speak through some of this so we can get to all the good stuff you're working on now but I want to set a table for who you are. You grew up in Washington and New York and you were a linebacker. Defensive Lineman in Highschool was sports from the beginning it for you. Was this something that you knew from a young age was going to be your life I hoped it was gonna be my life. I told everyone that was going to be my life including my teachers who weren't very fond of the idea idea. Because you know when you're growing up in the seventies there there weren't as many sports jobs and if you didn't play or coach You aren't going to be able to be involved in sports so again it was a you know had myself fooled for a long time that I was going to play in the NFL and be the next Dick Butkus and wear number fifty one but that never happened It ended after college but Yeah football became a you know the my job and I hoped and I've been really really blessed. It's happened actually. Yeah were you into other staff. Did you play anything other than football. Did you play music instrument. What did you like outside of football? Well it's it's funny I. I played other sports. I played baseball. Love Baseball Would probably better than baseball as a youth or in in high school but I loved Football for a lot of reasons one being the physical contact and Yeah I You know it's funny I I didn't play an instrument while not very long. There are a lot of things that I did and I didn't do them very long. I guess I dabbled right. I wrestled sold for a little while. But I wasn't disciplined enough. You know was in track and field and through the shot and discus but again more than disciplined or focused enough to be an athlete. That could just work golf on their own I was a team sport guy. The I had a lot of other Loves and Those things kind of remained in the background background until partway through college. When I decided it was Actually okay to live outside the football player mentality and life so he went to central Connecticut State graduated with a degree in communications together. A Hall of fame career their defensive tackle. So you were on your way to playing saying and becoming Dick Butkus and do all the things. Well I gotTa tell you so you know and even the back when you played linebacker then defensive and you mentioned defensive tackle what happens. Every year I got fatter slower compared to the athletes that was competing so I had a little bit of talent and and and certainly instincts so like okay. This guy belonged in the field. But he's you know he's getting pretty fat so we have to keep moving the closer you get to the line of scrimmage and to the ball just beats it has a lot to do with I type right and your body type kept changing and so did your position. Yeah much so so. At what point did you realize okay so I'm not going to be an NFL player. And now what do I do. You know. I think the reality set in My my after my junior year where you know it was performing well at that level we were division to school moving up to Division One. Aa It was that transition year and and You know you heard about small school guys that made it and then again I was. I was fortunate to to play well at that level and be considered considered probably a very good player at that level. And I'll never forget. I had a chance where I was worked out by a combine scout and then a scale from one. NFL team name. And when I worked out next to some of these other players I think that's one reality set in and also realize you know my body type in in terms of my height and things I just was not I was a good player for the college level. I play that I wasn't as good as an NFL player. I attend you know one of the things things I did I was younger. I went to. NFL Training Camps It's much longer story. But that's how and when I met Bill Belichick my junior year of college and spending time around those watching those players every single day in training camp trying to learn how to be better football player And taking notes and being you know one of those Weirdos kept a notebook on everything I watched. I realized I wasn't good enough so the reality set in and then I go. You know I said to myself okay. There's other the things I wanNA do and I think being football coaches next. Yeah so what did your parents do when you when you were growing up. What did they do for work? So my dad worked for a company that way back was known as Western Electric which became New York? Tell which became part of One one of the larger. I can't remember which one it was I I I lost track so my dad was what they called an installer and it was hard core blue collar. You're very physical Labor that he did His entire You know for the entire time that he worked. My mom was on an off you know did different things I mean she. She was a mother at seventeen with my my oldest sister and So my mother did a lot of things she was a mother. She was a stay at home mom but any moment that she had that she could make extra money for the family. Because by the time my parents were on. And I'd say twenty nine twenty seven. They had four kids house payment car payment. And they were you know bills to pay for their mouths. Take care of and You know there was six. It was in this very small. I think it was a fourteen hundred square foot home. That had two bedrooms and my mom did a lot of things She she was very very. My mom is brilliant although didn't have a professional life because you know her generation and circumstances didn't didn't allow that but she did everything from keeping them books at a car dealership to cleaning other people's homes to My my mother was much smarter and capable then what life allowed her to be. Or what the circumstances of life allowed allowed her to be so she was incredible. Stay at home mom and whenever she could make extra money for the family she did..

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"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

10:06 min | 2 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

"That's what she said that's what she said that's what she says what she said. Well that's what she said. Welcome to. That's what she said. Conversations with interesting people from the world of sports music comedy and more talking about their lives careers successes and failures. I'm Scott Pelley and my dilemma is. I've already failed it. My New Year's resolution. It's a dilemma. That can't Dick to philly promises. Mahfouz like eating healthier forty eight hours into a into a new year. Well well well. Isn't this timely Scott. Because last week's episode of this Barry podcasts she said Sarahspain featured my friend Lizzie Cutler. Who gives you the best tips on staying accountable to your resolutions and trying to understand? Understand the reasons why you can't stick to them. One thing that I started doing this year that I haven't done in years past with my resolution. Is I physically wrote them down and I have a journal where each day day. I have to check off whether I accomplished the things that I said I was GonNa do for instance instead of waking up at a certain time trying to wake up about an hour earlier every weekday so that I have have more time during my day to get things done and so every day. If I didn't wake up by the time that I said I can't put a check mark and so I do that for each of the resolutions and hope to be able to. Let's see check marks across the entire week for progress and simultaneously writing down reasons why things might not be a good resolution or might not be doable. How can I just them and tweet them and make them something that I will be able to accomplish everyday so go back? Listened to my podcast with Lizzie. Cutler go back even farther. Listen to my podcast with Gretchen Rubin Who Talks about her book better than before which is all about changing habits and behaviors and then check back in with me? I promise you'll have a better time doing it if you start with those. The commission spoken my guest. Today is Scott PAOLI FIVE-TIME NFL executive of the year of founding member of the bill whilst Diversity Council and was most recently the assistant. General Manager of the Falcons also served as a front office executive for the Browns Ravens jets patriots and chiefs he was the director and later. VP of player personnel for the Patriots creates from. Oh One two zero eight which means he oversaw three super bowl championships. The drafting of Brady on good years there. He's currently working as an NFL analyst for CBS sports and a consultant Salton for the NFL. We had a pretty wide ranging conversation starting out with him getting into coaching and then eventually moving over to the executive side including a degree that took him from one thousand nine hundred. Eighty eight to two thousand. Five's less interesting story. His really special friendship with Bill. Belichick the facts that bill sent to Po. Lease new father-in-law Bill. Bill parcells to get him out of the jets job at onto the Patriots. Great behind the scene stories on drafting. Tom Brady and how they turn that team around. Why the Patriots are so successful? And why other teams like the jets. Brown's can't seem to get out of their own way and also about a teacher of his. That made him the fierce advocate for gender and racial diversity that he is now the work that he's doing on that so you'll love this conversation whether you're an NFL geek or not but especially if you are that's what she said excited to have what I would consider a new friend earned from afar on the podcast. Don't believe we've actually ever met in person although it may have happened years and years ago at some random. NFL event where neither of US knew who the other person was but happy happy to have him on. Now after he's been on my radio show Spain and company a couple of times and a fascinating brain to pick about not just his career and some of the great coaches and players. He's worked worked with succeeded with but also what he's working on now to change the face of the NFL and the foundations endowments and work that he's doing to make the NFL more inclusive which of course As you guys all know US regular listeners is something that's very important to me. Scott Pelley I want to start at the beginning Scott though and we'll speak through some of this so we can get to all the good stuff you're working on now but I want to set a table for who you are. You grew up in Washington and New York and you were a linebacker. Defensive Lineman in Highschool was sports from the beginning it for you. Was this something that you knew from a young age was going to be your life I hoped it was gonna be my life. I told everyone that was going to be my life including my teachers who weren't very fond of the idea idea. Because you know when you're growing up in the seventies there there weren't as many sports jobs and if you didn't play or coach You aren't going to be able to be involved in sports so again it was a you know had myself fooled for a long time that I was going to play in the NFL and be the next Dick Butkus and wear number fifty one but that never happened It ended after college but Yeah football became a you know the my job and I hoped and I've been really really blessed. It's happened actually. Yeah were you into other staff. Did you play anything other than football. Did you play music instrument. What did you like outside of football? Well it's it's funny I. I played other sports. I played baseball. Love Baseball Would probably better than baseball as a youth or in in high school but I loved Football for a lot of reasons one being the physical contact and Yeah I You know it's funny I I didn't play an instrument while not very long. There are a lot of things that I did and I didn't do them very long. I guess I dabbled right. I wrestled sold for a little while. But I wasn't disciplined enough. You know was in track and field and through the shot and discus but again more than disciplined or focused enough to be an athlete. That could just work golf on their own I was a team sport guy. The I had a lot of other Loves and Those things kind of remained in the background background until partway through college. When I decided it was Actually okay to live outside the football player mentality and life so he went to central Connecticut State graduated with a degree in communications together. A Hall of fame career their defensive tackle. So you were on your way to playing saying and becoming Dick Butkus and do all the things. Well I gotTa tell you so you know and even the back when you played linebacker then defensive and you mentioned defensive tackle what happens. Every year I got fatter slower compared to the athletes that was competing so I had a little bit of talent and and and certainly instincts so like okay. This guy belonged in the field. But he's you know he's getting pretty fat so we have to keep moving the closer you get to the line of scrimmage and to the ball just beats it has a lot to do with I type right and your body type kept changing and so did your position. Yeah much so so. At what point did you realize okay so I'm not going to be an NFL player. And now what do I do. You know. I think the reality set in My my after my junior year where you know it was performing well at that level we were division to school moving up to Division One. Aa It was that transition year and and You know you heard about small school guys that made it and then again I was. I was fortunate to to play well at that level and be considered considered probably a very good player at that level. And I'll never forget. I had a chance where I was worked out by a combine scout and then a scale from one. NFL team name. And when I worked out next to some of these other players I think that's one reality set in and also realize you know my body type in in terms of my height and things I just was not I was a good player for the college level. I play that I wasn't as good as an NFL player. I attend you know one of the things things I did I was younger. I went to. NFL Training Camps It's much longer story. But that's how and when I met Bill Belichick my junior year of college and spending time around those watching those players every single day in training camp trying to learn how to be better football player And taking notes and being you know one of those Weirdos kept a notebook on everything I watched. I realized I wasn't good enough so the reality set in and then I go. You know I said to myself okay. There's other the things I wanNA do and I think being football coaches next. Yeah so what did your parents do when you when you were growing up. What did they do for work? So my dad worked for a company that way back was known as Western Electric which became New York? Tell which became part of One one of the larger. I can't remember which one it was I I I lost track so my dad was what they called an installer and it was hard core blue collar. You're very physical Labor that he did His entire You know for the entire time that he worked. My mom was on an off you know did different things I mean she. She was a mother at seventeen with my my oldest sister and So my mother did a lot of things she was a mother. She was a stay at home mom but any moment that she had that she could make extra money for the family. Because by the time my parents were on. And I'd say twenty nine twenty seven. They had four kids house payment car payment. And they were you know bills to pay for their mouths. Take care of and You know there was six. It was in this very small. I think it was a fourteen hundred square foot home. That had two bedrooms and my mom did a lot of things She she was very very. My mom is brilliant although didn't have a professional life because you know her generation and circumstances didn't didn't allow that but she did everything from keeping them books at a car dealership to cleaning other people's homes to My my mother was much smarter and capable then what life allowed her to be. Or what the circumstances of life allowed allowed her to be so she was incredible. Stay at home mom and whenever she could make extra money for the family she did..

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"pioli" Discussed on No Ego

No Ego

05:36 min | 3 years ago

"pioli" Discussed on No Ego

"Another important one. Oh, simple. At the cow, simple cure is if you catch a disease. It's really not that hard. If you're in jail 'cause you murdered eleven people and it's much harder to bring back neck. If I but one of the other things that I believe is essential is some self regulation practice. Some kind of grieving meditation prayer positive statement at formation visualization something that can be practiced for as little as like his came to thirty seconds at a time. To stop the nervous system from over accentuating the negative and the reactively that comes chronic. If you're not careful. Oh. If if you call in into work, and we're busy end distractive, which many of us are. In the nervous system of bills of Strath and also create some they coma slate debris from the distracted there. So if you're doing one thing that that default network is not quite as active because you're focused default like what's wrong with my life network at how could I make sure that I I, you know, it's like the the part of you that when you go to Hawaii remembers that you didn't clean the cat later. You know what? Anything you're doing? So one of the practices that is really a central that focus or concentration practice, which which is different than our our chronic checking the hone working on messages looking around like just our ability to focus this team compromised by all the attentional things that we have, but you can practice very simply, okay. On the take thirty seconds out. Just to flow may breathing. Or when I'm done checking my messages, I'm going to actually fully looking by Email. Four. I do something else is create a moment of transition where you nervous system. Get some break. Or I'm gonna you know amid in his apparent of better future. These are all relax Asian focusing practices. But you know, you can stop for. Will you actually have to image? How good it will be to come home and meet somebody I love, and so you get a little bit of built Amine in your system. But it's a focus in practice on positiveness. Besides commonality is number them. But some degree of self-regulation away you both quite nervous system. Now. More importantly, yet a sense of self efficacy today. You don't feel overwhelmed Annetta control, which is the worst thing to have those two people at work like they lose the sensor on Jarjur. This just like somebody running around title put out fires. That can internal experience with some self regulation practices and not as you don't you're Pioli. But it's not as bad the other. Besides just looking for commonalities -regulation. I mean you deal in healthcare at you'll little, but I into things and the inability that we all have to appreciate to start our staggering abundance. The minister. Say the privilege humping born in the United States of America. The the positives of having a minded mighty that work. There are so many things to appreciate. And those are the simplest wants when you want to take that even more deeply you start appreciating other people. And then you win the commonality and the gratitude appreciation become sinner, just an income becoming credibly powerful. So one, you know when you walk into work. It's really good trimming of job just just that. And hope for them. If you buy dinner to be thankful for happen to work at a place to give you dinner or lunch. That's that's credible bounty. It suits. Who would I someone I work with folks is the eagles really good at dismissing the buried things you've just suggested like self-regulation practice or intense granite intentional gratitude, or because the eagle wants to live and these things, you know, will really change the fuel you're giving your brain like the ability the know that if I can just self-regulate for a moment, I can tap into my own dopamine source just became away where I was like this is amazing suffered..

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