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Positive company culture isnt about ping pong tables

Organizational Success Strategies with Business Consultant and Corporate Trainer Dawn Shuler

13:05 min | 1 year ago

Positive company culture isnt about ping pong tables

"Bowl this is dawn Schuler certified trainer and Business Consultant at the Shooter Act Ping Pong tables. Don't help you do that they might help you have fun they might help you relieve stress might help you you bond with your fellow employees and staff members but they're not really helping you in your knowledge activities ways of doing things understanding that they can immediately and directly take back so let me go back to the team bonding isn't the same as team building so that I can explain that in gender team building and we disagree we say that those are activities that are great you believe your work makes a contribution to something ping pong tables don't fit into that the office and apply to their jobs a paintball course does not immediately apply down on team bonding versus team building. Now let's go to the main event of this episode which is Ping Pong table there's been this big push that certain activities like rope courses or escape rooms or or paintball fight facilities actual job is ping pong tables aren't Gallup has been asking questions for over thirty years about what nobles and nap pods aren't the same thing as creating a quality job and a positive company culture as of exercises in facilitation by skilled trainers and consultants who helped the participants with things sure but that's a byproduct and it's not specifically team building team building on the other hand is a series setting that's not at work but it helps people relate to each other on a personal basis can that help with team building and performance at work your boss cares about your development you can use your strengths every day and you believe you're doing something that is making an MP for team bonding and that's important bonding is important come together learn more about each other in this fun relaxed Ping Pong tables nap pods at work aren't necessarily the same as creating equality job and a positive company culture finders assessment now called the Clifton strengths finders that over twenty two million people around the world of taken with Jim Clifton says so here is what Jim Clifton who is the current CEO at Gallup and his father Donald Clifton is the one who created the strengths is a great job is a job in which you believe your boss cares about your development you can use your strengths every day at work and to their jobs unless of course their job is working at a paint ball course but that's not we're talking about so that is where we creates engagement at work Clifton also said there Enga- all the questions that Gallup asks are really about a human in wanting to develop maximize their strengths make a meaningful contribution and feel valued and we know because of all the research seventy percent of the working population still disengaged and not engaged at all wjr that engagement happens automatically when these deeper needs get matt so why are we attribute some of these things to the millennial generation that whole wanting to make an impact in needing that sir social interaction wherever you fall in the generation line whether you're pre millennial or post millennial pre boomer post boomer don't you really want to make a meaningful contribution don't you want to feel valued don't you want to be able to use your gifts and strengths every day if you're that you're not fulfilled and I bet that you're thinking that there's got to be more than just this what if an organization could create a culture around caring about the employees at a job because it's just a job and you get to bring home a paycheck you're really not engaged are you I'm certain a positive strong company culture and that positive culture facilitates social interaction teamwork the people in your organization what are you doing to maximize their strengths do you even know their strengths they do and they're happy because they're probably using their strengths and their gifts equals end of executives and eight percent of employees believe that a distinct corporate culture is important to a businesses success I am certain that that attitude and belief system that Google provides and their survey also found that there is a strong correlation between employees who claimed feel happy and valued at work and those who say that do they know whether you know that do they feel as if they are acknowledged for their strengthen their gifts feel that they are vital to the workings of the whole even the cleaning crew I bet that means I can make an impact and I can really do something here. In this organization company has a strong culture so that feeling valued and feeling like they're making an impact and being acknowledged for the work that they see something in me that will be of value to the organization and they want me for those reasons for those great things I can do -portant if one piece didn't work the rest of it didn't work that is how you want your employees in your staff members to it's really about I went through this hiring process they must really want me it must be because he's wanting to understand on a personal as well as a professional basis their direct reports do they know the importance of their role their job duties in the organization do they understand how it fits in the cog of the entire machinery he think about the inner workings of what do you do in your organization to help your employees in staff feel they're making a meaningful contribution is what makes Google one of the best places to work according to their employees so what are you doing to develop I bet it has to do with truly using their strengths and gifts because using that Google example they spend a lot Franks and helping them develop and maximize those according to research by Deloitte Ninety four points does everyone in your organization have that feeling from the top down tation even down to the administrative assistant or the receptionist or the call center or the customer service

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Tigers back, Augustas dormant, Westwood continues, & Brooks flexes

Fore Play

1:12:58 hr | 1 year ago

Tigers back, Augustas dormant, Westwood continues, & Brooks flexes

"I would look at Boston. We'll Tom and look at this stuff that they pose to some of. It's like such quite quite amusing stuff like that. That is what we need to get people until turns goal. Nice to be your boys. Congratulations on all that. You're doing as mediocre as it is very much thinking about getting so I don't give that people together. Thank you brag dump butter knife my wed.. The newer younger Hitler Barstool Sports Tigers had the three factor one fusion. We welcome in from Barstool sports rigs and Trent guys. Welcome to the show for the it's obscene in the in the studio right. mcclay just gave Frankie breaking news. What do you mean you lost in Ping Pong Lurch Walk into the studio so he said Adler loss and ping pong? And I don't think I can do show anymore. I'm upset I'm sitting over here. I'm sweating and flustered. What the fuck happened? It was terrible it was terrible. I I don't even want to go the route that everybody knows about to go so hang. Can I play three games I want to I lost one did you dominate the first two. Oh the this is gonNA sound pathetic. And I'm not what I don't do excuses. You only have the padded paddles in there. You don't have the hard sandpaper paddles or like the just one. The thing of rubber and those are the paddles us. I am not a spin player. I'm pure power hitter. I couldn't at the table. So that there's no excuse to because you show up Ping Pong Bars and always have the cheap Powell's which they have the cheap and the good and the cheap are the ones that I like now anyway looks at home need to understand. Yeah we have this room suite game room in the in the office table. Everybody's you know who's good everybody's got a buddy and this guy thinks they're good and we talked lurch at the end of last week in this office. Like Trent said like Roger. Federer was about to walk in here. We were saying he could beat everybody lefty he. Dummies people people left the essentially. You were a mythical character in the world of Ping Pong and then you go out there and your first showing and you lose to Hank Hank early good no I know I saw. Hank poll lurch to go back into the room and play and I was like. I can't wait till they get out here. And the look on hangs face is going to be like boy with this guy is dominant. Then he is a once in a generation player and I saw them walk out and there were no facial expressions whatsoever and come in here and Lurch tells us that he lost and I knew Frankie was gonNA have a shit fit. Did he like was he thinking was he. Like I just couldn't keep the ball so my players just to get out to my forehand and then just wall from corner to corner. I couldn't keep the ball on the table so then I wanted to snap the racket and then I was just overwhelmed with frustration and I got worse and worse and worse and we must be a pretty solid player. No He's real. I think you'd beat them. And I think you lay you play today I could have beaten. Yes what's yes. I couldn't keep the ball. Are you nervous I I just. You're not a big time player. It's impossible to overstate how much people were talking up lurch a week. It's impossible to explain. How when lurches on his game he's unbeatable beatable? It's impossible to explain how much you ruined. Our reputation is my reputation. I'm new I don't care about your reputation. I care about trump right. We have no. We don't understand how the university at one point he beat people with his foot he can put the tournament because it'd be unfair. That's actually true new loss to you know. I know it was terrible. I should've stupid part on my part was that I won the first two games and I kind of just snuck out of them like it. Really just not impressive ping-pong just getting the ball back and he just missed more than I did and then I was like. Let's just play one more because his rig came in we still have more time before you got back from The pizzas I was like. I'll just do one more game. Oh my God and I think he was out to attend to start or something. I was glad lab. Couldn't I couldn't get the ball on the table with any sort of thought it was me. I was a problem so I walked. I even say a word. I just slinked out of the room because it was so embarrassing. What was happening? And then he came out and I was like how go he said not well and then you walked in and now we're talking about. Wow Wow a stunning vicky. We're GONNA come into this room while high and mighty with chest popped out after a couple of wins slump down and pathetic but now you're just a shell of a man. Yes I might be lost in your your thing. I told your games in Dzhambul. Yeah you told me Friday and we were at the Bar Ping Pong is the best thing that you do. I still but that can't be true. You can only play with the cheap paddles the right like professional ping pong players. Play with the real paddles. Well no they have they are puddles red light if he walked in hang has different string tension than like like a raw funded all. They have to look at the rack. That aren't like standard like they. Were you need to have him Ping Pong tournaments. Don't hold you to stand it to use a certain. No you can use. Is Your own racket really. Yeah for sure. And then I'm sure even in the ping pong world and I don't even know this that some come like that with probably a softer foam than others because some out assume if you plan a lot of spin you'd probably like a very soft foam right but very happy so you can cut the ball shit nightmare nightmare. Did you realize late in that third game which you lost that you were delivering was going to be like a monumental disappointment for four point. I mean it wasn't even thinking that far ahead I was just thinking about myself. And how pathetic his losses. I was so upset with myself when it was ten to I was like I can't believe I'm losing. And then he was taking these wildcats the ball and they were going in and I was like to suck he all kinds of confidence. You planning incompetent lert. Yes exactly this. Where's the first two games Probably Twenty one. I was just thinking out of twenty one seven one seventeen and then maybe he beat me. I don't know twenty one. Fifteen eighteen got to hope that just becomes a ping pong product. That's fine what's going to happen is I'M GONNA go get my paddle. I'M GONNA come back on Wednesday. I'M GONNA go right over his desk. The man that we play beat the shit out of them. Then come back in here and CA- and I don't think he's going to get the ten points I want that for you and I want everyone in this room Reputation is in shambles. I mean we talk all time. I listen incompetent. I couldn't get the ball on the court. When you show up the five five iron they have the heart paddle? They have both a lot of places usually just have. Both Hank even thought you guys had both. But you don't have we a small search. Have we been watching you play against. It's like fucking Stephen Hawking like who. Why have you looked so good to us all the time? I don't know what to say. I can't defend my position. Okay I mean I'm I'm foster movie furious. If you get even a wink of sleep tonight you'll be thinking I don't deserve. Oh yeah until Wednesday and then hope to God. He's at his desk. Because I'm going right over there and I'm going to tap on his desk. He's a busy guy. He works for a very very popular. podcast you better. You might have sleep on the couch. Tonight Pajama Catch Buddy. anyways I guess we'll talk off now similar of you ox. Lurch sucks sucks. You shouldn't even be allowed to have take the rest of the show but that's okay you can. We'll talk off different sport. Try to get your mind off. The fact he got beat by Hank in Ping Pong A lot of talk about tiger woods is playing this week. First term of the year for tyrod always declare this in my own head. I've always kind of thought of. This is the first like real week week of PGA tour season. Since I've been following golf pretty seriously for whatever it's been fifteen or twenty years because this has always been when tiger woods starts doesn't start out in Hawaii. Hawaii always feels weird. Because is there a different time zones. And they're in fucking Hawaii. It's fake place in the American Express last weekend. No fence that term but only got really moves the needle and then booming at Torrey Pines lines there on the cliffs San Diego Tiger Woods. He's won their million times. This is when the PGA tour season really really starts and tiger woods is starting his year. His last asked Appearances that we've seen. He was basically the best player in the world. He's the reigning masters champion. So it's a lot of exciting things to get to. I want to Address really quickly. The barstool classic twenty twenty venues and dates will be announced next month in February I get a lot of requests so rather than respond to all of them. I'm going to tell you now if you're listening to this show probably Early to mid February we will go live with all of them. Fourteen different cities Fifteenth include the championship venue which would be a multiday thing so stay tuned for that Masters Commercial yesterday during championship Sunday and football. This is always when the hype gets going people start tweeting. About how many days until the masters and then you see the mashes commercials. I love the original ones that they usually do which are very abstract and vague. We talked about the head like an eagle flying. Slow motion Just a couple like slow motion shots of of Rae's creek and of aiming corner and And now we got one with full with higher of the return to glory tiger with his with his hands in the air. It's just such a beautiful sight to see when you're watching. Football job cuts away for a second booming at Tiger Woods. Sexy so sneaky you in and around. The course of Augusta has to do with that beautiful music and then they're just like April. It should be a contentious and like douchebag ARY but it's not like you should see all right like fuck off your play music this many a you know what I mean. Yeah but like it works somehow. It works like you're doing this three months in advance. And you're so cocky cocky. Can you be just like play a little piano. The Ano- Jingle and just show like a couple of flowers and everyone's like fucking over. His jaw hits the floor but it works. It never misses flawless. They thousand on the commercials marshals. That would be like if the NHL in like July just like tweet out a A close up of the Blue Line and I just uh-huh coming in October. What do we know when it is for some reason rink buddy? The masters just gets a pass Astin. I'm I'm for it. People get for this very reason people get all. I see on twitter when the commercial areas of people tweeted. Did you guys see it. It's coming also New England. Play so well all too. 'cause you're in like just this awful cold weather right now and you see those beautiful flowers and that green grass just golf season's on the horizon just plays on so many different aren't levels. It's great. It's really exciting time in. It's you you pair. That with Tiger Woods get ready to start his year which feels like the beginning of the climb towards the master's towards trying to peek at Augusta. It's just beautiful time to be alive. Couple things we got a circle back on Brooks Kafka Buried Bryson Shambo so when we recorded The show Oh Bryson had essentially chirped Brooks Capco Brooks. Kepco had not responded yet but we on the show. We're talking about what we thought he you might say Frankie was very close to nailing it spot on had the essence of it for sure pretty much the same sort of tone saying like yeah. It may not have the APP so I got the trophies. Something like yeah crush. Yeah it was funny too. 'cause I was telling. Trent like my brain's been mashed potatoes recently. I just can't think of words like the other day with the losses to the Rangers. No the other day something to me where I couldn't think of something so I couldn't think of like the word train station was something that we go on home. Go on home. What's the thing we're about to like train train station? Someone's like what's the nearest the. Where do you take it? I'm like the nearest and I started like snapping years. Train station is westbound so call and that was nice to get the brand. What I was meant to say was like when I was doing that? Bryson thing I was trying to think of a war where it's like. Where like he was like he almost had the six pack? I was trying to think give it and I just couldn't like that was in my brain. I almost call it word for word. I pictured him like standing in front of like a mere like with the trophies stopping seeing the expect to visualize. Oh Yeah I don't have a six pack but I'm close. You know what I mean if you're standing behind them being like oh it's not quite a six pack but if you would've have like a half hour our only thing about this I was right there. You would have known that like the trophy sat like that in his home. Oh that would have I to help trophies or should have taken a picture is holding them all in front of shirtless body of his and been like yeah. I am actually close to a six hundred. I'll be there soon. That yeah looking yoked. Yeah he did say you arrive at Bryson Shambo. I'm too short of a six pack back and it was just his four major championship trophies. A couple US Open novels weird that he keeps them like underneath the stairs. Where bazaar if he that's where he keeps them Meghan maybe some of the theories that he just put them all in one place to take the photo to them which is a funny thing in and of itself like the thought of Brooks Kapka grabbing different major trophies? It'd be alright babe. How are we gonNA do this here? I think I think right here we could set up. I'm GONNA treat this and like the amount of effort and time that he goes into staging really funny content to Roast Bryce Asia. I don't know what that whole process looks like. But he buried him alone. Yeah I like to think that that's right when you walk into the house so you know yeah like the doors right there. Maybe they're stairs that go upstairs. And whatever man he gives the welcome. It feels like that's the first thing you see so welcome and the best part is like the the trophies all make a little heart right there see that yeah. Let's beautiful. Yeah that's really beautiful. I didn't notice that all right. So lesson learned Bryson. You got is this Wisconsin. Did you guys see response. What did he say this is? Why your world number-one yeah? Yeah I mean he's got nothing else. Oh next page. There's nothing else elsie can. But this is why Bryson gets himself into these things sometimes because bryson thinks he is bigger than he is he really does. I love Bryce and we have on the show all time. We've said all the positive things to say about them. But like you have to know that if you're going to take shots at Brooks Kapka he always has the trump card over you like. He has won four majors. You've one zero. He's world number one and you're just not Brooke has not proven the last year or two to be quiet. He's going to respond respond. And you know you're GonNa get toasted and you know it's going to end up having to be like ha ha. He's that's why he's world number what I also think he's got tunnel vision on the APPS and like lifting things so he's looking at. Ah but I do have better odds than him like so I did when that one. Yeah he's got more trophies. But I still have the better apps when everybody's just like it doesn't matter what you're absolutely if you can fill fill a trophy case that's what matters and Bryson for some reason doesn't quite get your spot on rice and my. Yeah he's genuine in his head he's like. How do these people not see that? It's it's unfair that he took this off of Ab active right now like it's one to one have he's got more trophies. Came for match. We'll see what happens. We'll see right and also why did he change to the trophy thing with your ABS. What is he talking? When the rest of the world was just like googling coffin open gifts and like dead and buried? And he's like well. It's one one tie game going back to price. It's got home ice. It's what putty it's over it's over it's unless you go in five major championships. It's over just another great story line for golf these to like chirping at each other which I still think my theory about it being about people being so quick to be like Brooks can beat up. Bryson I don't think this is going away anytime sometime soon. Bryson might just become the most Jack Person in the world. Yeah and just a punching bag for Brooks capterra whenever he wants and captain knows it plays right like roasting Bryson d shambo place. It gets all the all the gifts. All the scrawl Moji gifts all the death the coffins all that stuff it gets it every time and he knows he's he's GonNa keep going back to it also so spot on for both brands like Bryson says this when he's playing fortnight video games right brooks comes back with just four master uh-huh four championship trophies. Right next to a stairwell. It's like this joke it is it's spot on it. It was right in line with a love. The gaming slander there. But it's okay no but I mean like it's on brand for both personas. Yeah it's perfect it is. Yeah Bryce in and people that just four Nile time or fucking NERDS and Brooks captors out there like banging is missile and and walking by his major champion trophies and in his free time being like you know I go out on my boat and I just I don't even care about. I don't even really like golf. Yeah so that part of Brooks despise right. I know it's okay. We've talked about it at length. CAST which I understand. But it's okay but he's got but he could still use the dam and he might haul out that trophy picture again. It'd be like he'll always win always win. You're attacking him on golf. Who always win? He has to be a bad guy for you to even have a chance into the upper hand. Yeah and even then cares like you know what I mean but you'd have to be like a cooter thing not tipping the caddy for you. How blogger to average hits to beat him? Yeah Yeah Yeah that is if you ever attacked them on sport. It's like do you sit behind a desk. And yes there's probably nothing in the world that Brooks Kapka is worse than any of us can react boy. Just can't stand on allegheny. What did you say? There's probably nothing in the world that like that. I think people would ever actually care about it. Bryson or that Brooks is worse than any of US know yeah right not to the level where people are like. Oh he got they got you correct like somebody could be Rigs is like a little better mens league hockey. Nobody gives a fuck. It would have to be like anything. That's real. He's like jacked very good-looking tons of money. Pretty funny in like in Wigan Dust People on twitter enough he got a ton of money he wins major championships. She got a great looking girlfriend. What got me every side of the coin? Yup Teeth or white hell. Great teeth underrated teeth. Edgar that especially against that complexion. He's got a little bit of time on the boat right with this really hot girl. You know damn the whole thing speaking of which most guys who tried to ways last longer but thinking about I don't I'M NOT GONNA I'm GonNa say thinking about Brooks Cap. Could I actually make you last. Last shorter probably lasts a long to go live from the lookalike guy over that. Yeah he probably does does. But thinking about Frankie's dies does not always work. The folks at Roman online men's health company told me okay it was really great. The folks Roman an online minute. My thighs I I might go in for a week. I'll never have sex again. Reason up has a joke changing. I I can't even look at you got it. I like well you got to do is put her little too little Things of paper on either side of my thousand. That's just a Matzo Ball. You know the ones you get at You just you. Why don't you could squeeze it in? The milk comes out. You've got a freshman at L.. Ball dude I I mean that's what I'm saying. 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They came out with a report that essentially says according to a source and official for the PGA tour spoke to Cameron Smith about his remarks regarding Patrick Reed and the cheating situation essentially issuing a warning that he would be fine in the future of. He made similar statements. If you recall leading up the President's Cup Time Cameron Smith said if you make a mistake maybe once you could maybe understand but to give it a bit of a bullshit response like the camera angle. That's pretty up there as inexcusable. I don't have any sympathy for anyone. The one that cheats. I hope the crowd absolutely gives it to not only him but everyone on the American team next week I know pat pretty good and he always has been nice to me so I don't want to say anything bad about him but anyone's it's cheating the rules I'm not up for that. Those comments folks are responding to this latest report of the PGA tour basic going like behind going off-the-record to Threaten Cameron Smith that he's going to get fined for making comments like this. The tours always had a little bit of like a protect. The Shield thing doesn't get nearly the the publicity that the NFL does obviously 'cause it's a PG to oversee NFL but they don't go public public with With like suspensions they don't disclose those types of things disciplinary action. They don't disclose that type of stuff. The only time it ever gets out is when it leaks and then and here they are doing these kinds of things so the PGA tour has very clearly always been a little Almost like dark behind the scenes in trying to control the narrative and whatnot. So this isn't surprising but it is like it's just a bad look got to be there. The part they have a problem with gotta be. I hope the crowd absolutely gives it to not only him but everyone on on the American team next week. That's gotta be what the problem is right. They don't want them to be like inciting like if people end up taking that too far and then the fans can be like like well. Cameron Smith told us to do that. I think that's the issue that they don't want people especially players on the PGA tour. Saying I want the crowd to be vicious and mean two golfers on because that can if you play that out it could get to a really bad place right and I think that would be something. That would be understandable. MOST PEOPLE'S IS I. I think what a lot of people take away from this is that the PGA tour does a lot to protect this image. That all of the guys that play on the PGA Gitte tour are like exceptional human beings that the PGA tour is like this Were were as good as it gets in terms of integrity and an and defending the honor of the game and everybody calls penalties on themselves. And so therefore you're out there Cameron Smith calling another one of your co workers colleagues. A cheater sure that that doesn't look good like the fact that they have Jay Monahan the commissioner slugger white and the rules officials coming out and saying like no no Patrick read. Couldn't I've been more of a gentleman the way that he handled all this this that I think you could really look at that as them. Making a very concerted effort to make it look like there's no cheating leading onto the PGA tour and everybody's very good and they all his own selves this that when in reality it's like the complete opposite of that a lot of minds like Patrick read clearly cheated. He should have been disqualified from tournament instead. He just like a two stroke penalty and then Patrick read being talked about cheating afterwards fouled up with like a cease and desist from Patrick Henry going to Brandel Chamblee the PGA tour cracking down on Cameron Smith calling him a cheater and that they're kind of like reaching all their tentacles out there to bring in any potential headlines Headlines and chatter in the in the public space that Patrick Rita cheater and I think that's a bad luck cheating concussions for the NFL they just want that word. Nowhere no where close to the shield or the business or any of that when in reality like I don't know if it necessarily helps but it certainly makes it more interesting like total if you look at play Barstool like another one another co worker calls. I don't know the coworker. That's great for business. That's great for business because it gets people to talk about it the PGA tour tour takes the complete opposite approach. where it's like no no? Everything's good everything's fine. There's nothing going on here. This is what the NBA's very good at right like the that that is half of the excitement in the NBA. Yeah it's like the player drama back and forth off the court stuff the way that they like each other. Don't like each other former teammates getting new with each other in the locker like that drives a ton of of interest in the game and I think golf to a certain degree is ben is definitely going to benefit benefit from it now. I think eventually it could get to a point where it's but I think all of this is is a no brainer positive golf right now. Like you said you got one guy calling another guy like a cheater and the pair them together for sure. Yeah Bryson and brooks like brand new a pair them together for sure people what they want to or had their way with brooks embrace and they'd be like both of their ads fantastic. There's nothing going on. They both looked great. But it's like it's far more interesting when they're snipe at each other. It's far more interesting for Cameron Smith to be like. I think that guy who I'm on the same tour with who I could be matched up with at some point is a cheater. That's like imagine. Imagine if they got paired up together it'd be like Holy Shit it'd be every single outlet would be Dr- dragging back up the comments. You know these guys are playing right next to each other for four and a half five hours. Yeah this is exactly what they said about each other. And it'd be great and you'd be very excited you'd be more likely to tune in. I guess the reason the tour does it is because maybe their sponsorship dollars and the type of companies that work with the PGA tour financial institutions. Insure all these places are like very clean and they want to represent like his clean of a you know. I don't know what more sort of backbone of washers companies incredibly honorable definitely. That's definitely a good call on their part. I still gotta go ahead but yeah I guess that could be part of it just seems like I don't know it's not to to a place where it's detrimental in any sort of real way. It's just with me like a fucking shooter and I'M GONNA call him out in the public space. That's really it. which in our? I think everybody on this shows opinions great for professional. Yes makes it in instantly more interesting more drama. That's what you want. Google Google Earth images of Augusta national have surfaced in the last couple of days so If I take this correctly google earth updates when they're going update but when they have kind of the most recent images from certain areas they'll just obviously update it and when you're scrolling through Google Earth You might all of a sudden stumble upon it. Will somebody in the golf twitter world did that in the last couple days and noticed holy Shit over Augusta National. It's all doormat. which a lot of us I have seen if you've been to different parts of the country certain times especially somewhere like Augusta where they do a bunch of overseeing so the rumor? Is that these photos of Augusta National. If you have not seen these google go look on twitter. These aerial satellite photos of Augusta national were taken in September which is win They basically overseas aid. so. The course looks like that. It's doormat stuff. Dies they overseen and then it blooms and it becomes Green as hell from October through the rest of their season which Augusta closes closes. I think from May through September and reopens in October. So the rumor is these are from September Some interesting takeaways. You kinda go look at it. And it's fun to look the course from the aerial vantage point into see doormat and Brown when it's usually green. It's interesting I don't like seeing it takes like I'd rather in my head think that it's always a uh-huh Wonderland and it's always heaven but it looks look at these pictures. It's just horrifying. Yeah you're right. I don't like it but it is interesting. It's hard to like not look at it for sure you know you're kind of intrigue the biggest takeaway that people are raving about is the space behind the thirteenth T.. So the thirteen T.. Use Tobacco right up to a hole at Augusta Country Club which Augusta Country Club borders Augusta national and Two thousand seventeen. I believe Augusta national paid tens of millions of dollars to buy real estate that allows them the opportunity to extend the frankish computer. Sounds like a spacious fucking exploding exploded. All I did was pull up. I Google Earth. Miss you so much like processor bandwidth. 'cause I went to go plug this. This thing started humming so behind the thirteenth thirteenth hole is five hundred ten yard par five Dogleg left you know it with raise creek creek running through it. Maybe the most iconic par-five in the entire world the problem is that literally the eleven whole is longer. It's like thirty yards longer than the Thirteenth hole it places as the easiest home. Of course almost anybody in the field now can just. If they hit a good drive they have like a mid to short iron. And I've seen bubba Watson pitching wedges in that ain't a good par-five. Everybody knows that that so Augusta has thought for a long time. What are we gonNA do about this? Do we move the way back The Fred Ridley. Who is the chairman of Augusta has said yes? We purchased The Ground Land Behind the thirteenth hole. We now have options. I think people say they could they could lengthen it at least up to seventy five yards. They could they could lengthen at ten yards. Seventy five whatever the HELL THEY WANNA do. They have said that they're going to wait until the US G. A.. And the Joint Report on distance in golf comes out which I think February fourth. That's two weeks from today is when that's supposed to come out So they've basically said we'RE NOT GONNA make any decisions until they report on. Distance comes out he. He has made the point. That like Amen Corner is one of the most sacred places in all the world of golf so to tweak it and like bring bulldozers in like lengthen. This that is is a bold move that they're not going to rush through however you look at this aerial shaw. There's a fucking road and a bunch of dirt that has been built behind the thirteenth hole and a lot of people are starting to wonder what the Hell's going to happen in a thirteen at Augusta national. you think somebody Google Earth got talking to a call from national being like. You guys can't do this. You can't update your Google Earth with our pictures North Korea. How to North Korea? Where they're like they're missiles are missing and then they're like pointed us and what does that? I was wondering when this came out like if you could set up an alert and just highlight like an area the map and be like when this gets updated. I WANNA know about it. I wonder because because it is neat. Like you never get to know anything. What happens really at Augusta? No and they're actually take pride and it'll be in you. Remember when they built they built that new the merch place. Yup they build this huge thing and people were like. It wasn't here last year and we just showed up this year and now it's here. Yeah won't talked about it. We didn't know about it and I think the like that they like changing things and then when people show trump the next year boom. That's when people know so famously. They love this that to give people a little bit more insight into it is that they want to say you know. They've obviously made a lot of course. Changes changes over the years and one time they lengthened the course by like two or three hundred yards and just didn't tell anybody and didn't change the arches so people like on the on the T.. See where like this whole still says forty hours but I know it's like four twenty four thirty and didn't change it. I don't remember the exact year. The exact specific goals but like like everyone in their caddies new like no the whole just longer now so the point being like they don't publicize it. It's like when you show up on Monday of Masters Week. If if something new it might be a new ten million dollar merchant can prochet and you might just be like Oh my God. Where did that come from? So that's why. This is sort of so intriguing. I think behind sixers brand brand new building and then I was just looking into it and reading one article about it. There's actually forty two Greens on property which is like a ton eighteen hole course on a par three track track. You know There's just a bunch of interesting insights that you look at it and everybody obsesses with Augusta. Obviously for a variety of different reasons Just cool to see anything any tidbit that you can get on that part of the fun total. It's just like sort of these. Pictures are super interesting. And I think there are like you said I don't like see I don't black bunkers because they just dig them out. I just do not like seeing Amen Corner just like this feels like a POC elliptic world looking at this picture right right here in front of twelve dead in front he box twelve is just like look at. Raise creeks dry. There's like a dried up like rock bed in the middle of. ooh What does that then. This is just going to be like perfect. Come in like a couple of months. It's it might be perfect now. This isn't September. They're saying that's crazy the eleventh green Lena's perfect. How would you think that like how do these people know what to do? How would you think this is? I know it gets crazy. No you're right. We we walked onto that. We'd be masters in so much trouble. We are in so much trouble. ooh Who are on this one. We're GONNA show up are they. Don't throw up down right like I look at that and it gives me anxiety because because look the course behind it. What does that because the country club just doesn't do? The Club is just green. Goes about their business and then right behind the trees is just a wasteland. It's a barren wasteland it looks. It's like the desert except that's a Gusta do because there's going to be a lot of people seeing these pictures for the first time like most people don't look at Augusta on Google Earth. I know some people do but like they're they're gonNA be looking at it and like what is wrong with the course what's going on and then by April March April where it's going to be perfect. Yeah Augusta's like none of people are going to look we. They need to release a press. Release and tell us what. What's wrong with Augusta national? None of this is. We've been doing this for eight years as what we do. So cocky to like to let this happen in the golf course and the No. It's just going to earth one years just like no. How about the first year? They tried it like no no like some guy comes to the meeting. Eating is like this is what we're GONNA do this year. We're going to let everything like it was like fucking Frankie Borelli popping around the now you said it dead then like the second I got a little more research on it. They're like okay. The first guy for ten years totally for decade on like like one little special trip of grass. That's like no one could ever find it because Google doesn't exist. Yeah you can go do it over there behind Bergman's rockin cabins cabins cabin go. Oh do that. Your little method didn't work killed him and then like somebody can have the balls five years later back all right. I know Tim tried this thing. You guys killed them for it. But there's some better scientist scientist and then finally got to the point where they do what they do. And Augusta's the greenest place in the world. Love to know the salary of the guy who does this. What are the what do you think they get paid? But what I picture him to be like not a human being and he just walks out there when I when a ton enough I think I think like the April first or or maybe even like a week before that the guy just walks out into the grass just raises his hand green and all like. He's the fucking Nike doing. He's like he just walks out document. Hatton Manhattan is the fucking guy at Augusta national the greenkeeper he walks onto twelve and he's just like start chirping just like her so music. Yeah let's go the only reason I was able to pull that references. Because I watch watchmen team all weekend. I watched the whole series. Good very good really one of the best seasons of a TV show. I've ever seen On the contrary which. I'm not saying that this isn't as good but I had a much worse. Viewing experience watching the outsider. We'll why just as it scares theory but I like it. I like it too but I couldn't couldn't like how many third tonight I couldn't sleep last night. I can't watch scary stuff. It'll ruin my life for a couple of weeks can't dream I can't sleep sleep. Can't everything is just all my notes actually terrible because so my brother's wife congratulations them. They just actually had their second child. Fantastic school grateful to congratulate so I was babysitting their first born and she made some noise in the night because they were still at the hospital and I thought of the outsiders I jumped out of bed and I'll tell you what I was up when she was up at four. AM wherever she made her noise. Yes there was no shadows going right not not to go back to the stuffing Aubrey about having kids and not having kids but there are scenes in the outsider where it's solidifies my decision because there's a little girl who's just screaming on the end of the bad thing. There's a man outside would rather not knowing how that guy killed me in my sleep. I don't need that defense. Stretches walks up to her and throws her out the way. We'll go to him I'm done can have you can have her middle wife. It's like House Little Jenny. She's gone hustler man outside there was no man everybody. Just let her walk into the street. You know what I don't have time for prefer that man to be able to stop through my house maybe sleep and he just sticks a knife in my judgment as is opposed to having a little girl being like there's like dogs and pets dogs like bark at goes solar time what you never seen a dog barking at like a darkness in like the corn dogs barking at spirits can letter different. Dogs and kids are different. I can leave the dog at the apartment or the House and its files. Outsiders outsiders is doing a really good job of just being scary. Yeah it's scary to a point where we're going to start to find more things out and it's going to become baby more scary but a little bit less because you knew. Don't worry about it but right now there's a couple story lines of people that you don't really know how they kinda mix in. Yeah you know. And like it's just scary and the guy in the hood is maybe the scariest creature ever created the TV. It's a really interesting show. Jason Bateman is in a direct sit. I'll say this tragedy. It is significantly more scary. Like like being scared of being killed in actually just being killed right. I don't unders- I. We talked about even like weird in the private jet and we thought we were all going to die was like I I would rather just die a crash immediately on takeoff than if you get up for a while and then things start to go south and you have a several minute crash where you know you're going to crash that's just kill me right away. Can you might like I mean being in the Dr One of my biggest fears is like people like if you're in the woods psychopaths ones just kill people. Don't hear bad guy. You like her begin to try to kill somebody and you stumble upon lurch how unlucky that is a weak little bug. Idiot humor that video dabbles area and he has. He has a loaded gun in every single room in his house. It's like magic just like a fucking drunk idiot. That stumbled into that guy's outs house Khlong. No matter which room you wouldn't just just putting bulletin. You just always laugh at that scenario. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa throughout this guy's got a loaded golden every single corner of his. I think when I wake up at three or four in the middle of the night. I'm afraid of the dark. You're like I'm normally. I'm not when I wake up randomly in the middle of the night. I'm like I'm terrified that it's dark and you ever been deep deep into the woods. No that's that's that's where I get like I don't maybe it's comforting during the day but at night. Sometimes I'll tell you what you hear a little white brand. That doesn't scare me as much as much much like a branch cracking. And you're like what made yeah that thing crack at that time. I've seen the Blair witch project. I know it goes on out there. It's not because you WANNA hear a story Roy. My grandfather flying. I didn't tell you a story that would scare at believe it or not. He was what timeframe this was probably back in the sixties and so he flies. He's with his buddy and they're playing right up in the Bush up in Canada sums wrong with the plane that they need to take it down. And then he's everybody's looking at me like I'm a psychopath but anyways these are by far my favorite story so I'm pretty sure they're all made up the I'm gonNA give. You is bucket. Something something is making him need to lay in the play. And he's with his buddy so they take it down. They find his pond and what he does At this time little Halio he drops rocks out of the plane window to see that. It's deep enough so he can land on floats. Does this finds upon that. He can lands pulls the plane up to the beach. They can't take off that night. They're going to figure it out the next morning. Bring Tent on kind of hunker down for the night. Put a ten up. The here's some noises out in the distance and they're in the middle of nowhere in this tent right tariff line hearing noises don't know what's going on. Then they kind of start. I hear voices. But then they dissipate there in the tent. Just he and his buddy. They're sitting back to back. 'cause they're absolutely panicked. I don't hear all noises throughout the night. They don't they don't go to bed. They can't do anything like paralyzed inside their ten but absolutely panicked they get out the next morning. There's tracks all the way around there. Ten in a circle and then the tracks go off into like you know. I don't know the brush where. Oh you can't leave tracks anymore right gotten playing. Got The hell out of there. Absolutely one of the scariest nights of his life foot tracks footsteps around his tent and like multiple around around the ten human human footsteps. Who told you a story my grandfather? Yeah sounds right. That's like the Blair witch little. There's little stick piles outside the OH. That's grandfather was a drug addict. You take that back. I will say in the mill that story. I didn't want to interrupt. You had an a plus pause. Yeah you get to the point where people who are listening are definitely GonNa look down at like. They're at their phone and be like all right. It's still gonNA pause the way you guys look at me. It's tough to tell oh story because you're looking at me with not like Oh my God. What's he going to say next? It's more of a look of like this guy's lying through well. It's getting to the point where it's like like your grandfather built the bucket of Empire State. Billy's barehanded yeah. I hope they're all true. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA post post a picture of my grandfather please. You should legendary check. That would be sick. Let me ask you this They throw the rocks out of the plane and see how deep the water is based on the splash. That's nuts but wasn't it nighttime. You said when dusk. Oh yeah so. They couldn't they they weren't gonNA take off the rocks in the plane. It happens yeah old. Bush pilots amazing. What have you just? You know I'd be like so the drop it into the water. They splash and then they go back to that where they dropped exactly. So then. They're telling you if you keep going deeper where you keep going could be right. I mean can you drive another one there and see if it's a couple I guess but yeah that was. That was a strategy. Do you can you can you hear it. Based on the plunk maybe how it is to you know could cause like if something is a certain amount of feet deep. Isn't that just going to be big. splashes no matter what yeah I mean as long as the clearance slash should be based off the height that you drop the rock off of not the depth of the water. uh-huh I would have just trying to alert the science behind that right. There has to be an answered. Go there has to be. It's two inches deep outside with a floatplane. You probably only need two or three feet of water for me. So that makes sense so like you're only looking for a minimal like you don't need much water clearance but I would agree with you. Hike would definitely affect the split. I wonder how how are they to some point. Then you're getting to do Max Pete whatever that nine point eight meters. The second is whatever that means television. It's acceleration but television. Okay Then I would say the splash. Ashby remained consistent regardless once. You get that high. I think we should get off this topic I think. I know the splash going to get higher based on the speed that something's is coming in and How high it drops for example if you have a rock that's the size of these rocks? These guys are dropping but it's like a fucking meteorite from space it's going to create a crater aground. The grandfather dropping one is just going to splash water. That's because there's a difference in those speeds correct one comes from fucking millions of light years away and then just wham hits the birth another one. We're due for one of those comes from trapping dropper. Try to for one of those With Robin Hood You. You can invest in stocks options and ATS. Right from your phone. 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I mean just for the the most just for the theatrics and just the most money's going to come in on him if he's the favourite and probably is going to anyway but I think it would be much more if they just making the favorite. Why wouldn't you and you get headlines? It's tiger woods the favourite entering like. Why would you not do that? Third favourite behind romme Chanda crazy person. Jon Rahm he has one here before he got his first. PGA Tour in here. I believe but still but I mean those numbers you just listed off. Tiger Woods is one here a bunch of Times nineteen ninety nine two thousand three two thousand five to six thousand seven two thousand eight and two thousand thirteen. What stretched stretched a five to designate? He just wanted. It's pretty good Jordan spieth fifty to one. I said he would win this tournament months ago. I don't know why I said that Jordan speech was going to win the farmers insurance open And that was before you know I was even thinking about. Who else would be in it? You Know Tiger Woods Jon Rahm all these other guys that are absolutely gonNa smoke during the speech. But I'm sticking by fifty to one odds I'll put some money on that. Yeah Peter Peter Senator from the gallery and said was just wondering. Ride Frankie to bet on speed this week And then also have this guy here. We talked about last year around the The Majors Got Mike McClure. He does like that ten thousand simulation thing. I feel like he always comes. Comes up around this time of the year because we're always when Tiger's playing I always want to see like what the odds are that he's GonNa win all these things. He has a couple of major surprises. Apparently for this week. I'm not willing to get to the third third one because I'm not applying for his Simulation thing so I'm going to read catcher. You know you have to subscribers it gives you a couple of tidbits and he's like Oh subscribing. I just I'm just too lazy to do that. Okay but he does say the tiger. So he's guest the last two out of three major champions correctly. Wow Pretty fucking solid and he has tiger stumbling Ling is we can barely CRA- cracking the top ten. which is not that great and then he has Tony Female as a twenty two to one shot to make strong run at the title? So I don't know who ends up. He says the model also has two other golfers with odds of twenty two to one who will make a strong round of the test so he's expecting three underdogs to make a road. I'm such such a bad gambler that I'll take that as fact like now. I'm just GONNA put a price on Tony. So now Tony's twenty two to one and then these other ads have like Patrick. Read at thirty three to one Gary within thirty three two one like these maybe the guys he's talking about so you're telling me this guy picked Gary Woodland Shane Lowry to win last year. Yes that would be fucking so his in his model silver of golf. His model predicted Gary Within First Career Major Championship at the US Open. Even though he wasn't a favorite entering the weekend the result will unhelpfully charging brooks kept going one by three strokes. The model also called kept US historic victory at Twenty Nineteen PJ championship predicting. He'd hold his lead in the home stretch but did he picked. When did he? When did he make these patients that he makes predictions the beginning of the week? Those little blurbs there make it sound like he predicted that Gary would hold on the weekends. It went like we'll know show. I think they're saying they're they're writing all sexy being like. Oh and this is what happened like okay like it was like a battle to the end and like his model knew it like you never wavered the model in all the advanced computer model has nailed a whopping six majors and during the weekend entering the weekend. Yeah that's I don't know that. Just manage reading there so you tell me why he does this little. Probably any picks the winner and he's gotten six out of how many I wonder how many that's out there. I don't match subscribe to that type of information so he doesn't like tiger to win this week. What more e Tiger Woods is one here like I said had eight times professionally? He grew up playing here. He loves his fucking boys more than anything last couple of times. We've seen him out Presidents Cup. You went three owned and captained the team you might heard of it. United States team defeated International Demon Melbourne Australia. We were there fist-bump very cool thing. He was excited Tiger Woods. Nearly one the hero world challenge. You had the lead on the back. Nine on Sunday Sunday. He hosts the tournament very busy week and up coming up just short and the tournament before that zone championship which is only official star of the nineteen of thousand nineteen thousand twenty season. He Won. It's actually one for one on star so far this and he's playing at Torrey Pines so I you know I like Tiger Woods Chances and Dan I liked a lot about this the floor whatever. I don't care what you say. I don't care what your your metric says I like to take. My three. Bets are going to be tiger woods. Tony fee now Jordan. Spieth I think you have putting the most unspeakable yes. I think you have like like one of the favorites. You have a long shot and twenty two one and then you have a hope and a prayer Jordan speed that fifty two one slash. I love taking speed to it. Like a top ten because there's still a ton of value there you know Kinda Kinda odd. I think you get there probably. I'd probably say five one. Wow just top ten that I like that too Roy. Domino will put an rory's favorite. Cover your loss of a win Roy. He's always good tonto. Because usually sneaks in there even if he has a dog shit I part of the tournament back doors talk tons of homework. He's actually great after his blow Brown to take him for a top ten. Yeah aw man I'm pumped for this week I've fucked. PGA Tour Live cranking. We're going to have they're going to be on the cliffs over there in San Diego. I never been to that area of the country by never been go for many many guys ever been to southern California. No in that crazy. None of us ever Not you alert on really only ever GonNa California was when we went for Pebble beach me too. I was in LA quickly. But that's it. Oh I played a trump national out there. La Trump course accounts America. Great again. Build that wall. Just you know so funny even so far so good you you know I. I like Curb obviously everyone loves. It's like almost like the office where it's like you say you think you're cool to like Kirb kirbs fucking fantastic and the old curve. He had had a storyline with the wife. Ex Wife and like the whole thing right and like you know And Leon and like you just had a storyline than last season. I thought curb. Every single scene was a punchline. Like it just went away from like it had a little bit of a storyline was just like Oh this scene. He can't get through the door the next scene he spill something on his pants pants next scene he hated hyper. In fact this episode I thought was great. Like jumping on. It was too fast for me but then it slowed down it was released. I need is like those party scenes and even like the make America Great Hats good so so funny guy. David can do something agreeing with. I didn't have seen it but the reason looking like that is because partially the reason you like to show as much is because that's how you live your life you every situation you feel like complaining get caught when you have some serious Larry David Yeah. It's so good too. Because in short basically he is the big goodbye so he kind of shunned somebody all night long but then and gives them this big Dubai's feel like he really likes that person. Whatever the guy calls them on the Big Dubai tells me needs to go with lunch with them? Larry does not want to go to lunch in this person at all so he goes to this very diverse restaurant and just pulls out the make America great again. Hey guys the then the guy does I wanNA have lunch. And everyone's looking at really very good. It's a good move. Andrew Landry gets PGA tour win winning the American. Express this past weekend and Just to Kinda show what we talk about here on this show we talk about the massive dispersion. You might have around around how you might play horrible often often great golf. You might shoot thirty seven fifty five whatever it is. Andrew Landry had missed seven of his last eight cuts and then he just wins on the PGA tour. He just goes out there and he wins. He almost tried to try to run to blow it on the whole back. Try to blow to move back. That's why build yourself such a lead couple bogeys and all that. And then he played very very close. Ended up getting a couple of stroke win. Birdied the seventy second hole They have that seventeenth hole. That's an island green that's longer than the actual island during that T. B. C. Sawgrass. There's awesome nervy shots down the stretch but he got it done and again. That just goes to show you. You can beat a hundred and fifty the best players in the world after your last eight starts. He missed seven of those cuts. So you just never know golf. He did have a quote where he said. You look at guys like Tiger Woods. They're playing a limited schedule for a reason didn't love that he said Tiger Woods isn't going to show up the harvest heritage because the golf course does not fit him. Every golf course fits him. It's tiger woods. He hasn't played the obviously heritage. Because it's the the masters and obviously tiger woods has way bigger things to do. You got to focus on the master. He's not going to go play the heritage. His point was clearly that like rather than playing everywhere. And hoping that you just kind of throw shit against the wall and that it sticks that like you can actually focus bear down the courses that suit you more. That's what Kevin Kisner does. He doesn't like POA grass for example so he tries to play his few tournaments as you can with that and and so he makes a decent point with that. I just didn't like when he said Tiger Woods is gonNA show up the heritage because that golf course does not fit him again. Every golf course fits him. Congratulations to Andrew Landry Second PGA EJ tore win and Cool to see somebody come from not playing golf and boom. All of a sudden they went onto our fantasy that a pretty good amount I also saw. What did I see? See Well Kim. I don't know how it's the the other thing. He shot like an eighty seven and then withdrew the art. Where he's just like I'm out of here you know it's always tough to tell with those? There's always a lot. Yeah true. Yeah he literally on Thursday shot he shot eighty seven cards incredible. He says par bogey par quad par par triple part double then he goes good stretch here. Par birdie par par triple par triple. Par has money's worth on those triples and doubles. Yeah no he really did and then withdrew so I just thought that was interesting. Lee Uso. You've got a lovely I would be don't and it's probably a you issue. Lee Westwood Wins. The twenty fifth European tour tidal for one point. One six million dollars. He's one in four. Different decades brought tears out. Actually actually we're talking to him about it afterwards just an all time. Great Guy Lee Westwood just very well liked. He's been on a million he's I think he's been on ten different European Ryder Cup teams and one almost all all of them because the European in our lifetime Europeans have just killed the Americans in the radical which fuck it sucks. He's now the twenty ninth ranked player in the world. I think he's forty six years old. Now the The twenty ninth player in the world. He said I cannot believe. I'm that old. His first one came in the nineteen ninety six Volvo Scandinavian masters. It's it's getting harder. It's just nice to come out and keep proving that you've still got it. I likely Westwood too. But it's always going to be like well you know. Never WanNA major under jared and just so close so many times I likely Westwood. Just one hundred. He just won a million bucks. That's great but it's always going to be that thing. They could still happen. It's crazy to have that kind of success and I'm sure that's still kills them. This is what I'm saying. It's like he's been so successful. They think you'd sneak in one one or two maybe and it just. It just hasn't happened why it's crazy to think too. Like bubba Watson has a couple of majors like like Webb Simpson has a US Open right boring nuggets and Lee Westwood decorated as it can be just doesn't have one like Padraig Harrington has three major championships Lee. USA Run was so fun. I love the best. Part of that. Run is my mom and my aunt absolutely love project. They love the Irish axe. And they're just like I just love when he plays well and then yeah that stretch where it was just incredible. Yes I liked it. They love him. It's very funny if you go on Any like notable Golfer wikipedia page. They always have results in major ager championships and they just list like in a in a in a grid all of their starts a major championships and they put in yellow anything. That's a top ten and Lee. There's so much yellow orange yellow. He's got a t six t seven t ten t five a fourth a third t thirty third a second a second a third T. he eight t t t three eight seven a t two and t four been. Do you think stroke or two each round just as guy just built like a house. Just as big Ole heroic looking guy just can't quite get over the edge and win one broad-shouldered shoulder jolly nice fuck and British chap who people would see Westwood on the Like leaderboard and I think it's woods for a second and then like notice like shit. The United States always lived his life. Because I know I've done that where like you just glimpsed at the TV on Thursday all like A lot he's just not going to get it done and he's forty six. Though he was humane member he was at the British Open. This year he was right in the mix areas got his new girlfriend on his bag and all that also rocks. I think Iraq's Peterman log year which I really like so Lee Westwood very cool thing to see that he got yet another winning twenty fifth think. He's like seventh or eighth or ninth or something like that all his career career earnings have to be just mammoth. Yeah I'll look that up quick. So he's doing fine. Yeah what do you think is what he thinks. Oh okay for reference when any Kevin Kisner at like twenty million I'm GonNa put a Lee Westwood at like forty seven million dollars. Take the over on that. I think he's GonNa it'd be like trying to pull it up right now. I'm just enough very good Internet to really. I think you'll ever get to that. You will I might not Achieved he must say fifty I will say is a little hard to navigate. You really need to like this cannot be right hundred ten career earnings on the PGA. A tour this just can't be right. I WanNa know what I'm so surprised at. What is now? He's one everywhere else. Except the major teen million. What you you know what? He's won twenty five European tour event. So that's gotTA BE GOTCHA PART OF I. Yeah that's that must be. What because he plays a lot of your upper euros prisoners made more money than on the actual actual PGA tour way? Unlike all his world tours he just one one point one million that doesn't count dollars announces converted at International Victory. You converted it appreciate you just type it in your type this two euro. I didn't do it in my head. Come on I rely completely on the Internet the I'm trying to figure out. What is his career European tour earnings? How come on the third? It's harder to find than you think you know we can do. We can do a tantalizing Little ts here. Why well I talked about? CB because he really MD is committed to providing you with high high-quality THC FREE CB oil products whether you're running for a raise or an Olympic gold medal. You need to stay at the top of your game. Look we've been rocking all their stuff for months months and months. Now actually I rock the their freeze GEL. I've been playing a lot more hockey now. It's the middle of winter in a couple minutes league teams my body. 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How Ping Pong Works

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How Ping Pong Works

"Hi, I'm Ariel Casten Jonathan Strickland and together, we're going to tell you the stories behind some of the biggest triumphs in failures and business. That's right. We're going to explore situations that tested the medal of entrepreneurs pivotal moments required. Making tough decisions. We'll be talking about some big companies that everybody knows like Disney LEGO and Harley Davidson and together we try to answer the question. What do you do when you find yourself at the brink? Listen and subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Welcome to stop. You should know from how stuff works dot com. Hey and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. And there's Charles W Chuck Bryant there's Jerry over there. And this is stuff, you should know the podcast about ping pong. I'm excited about this one. I'm glad I love ping pong. Are you any good? I don't think we've ever played have. We think we have crazy. There was at one time we at that ping pong bar in we stared at each other for an hour. But we never played. I remember that as being air hockey. I remember the staring. Yeah. Dude. I love ping pong. I'm pretty good for you know, just a recreational ponder. An NFL gotta table get an outdoor table. Oh nice. An outdoor table fancy. I love it. Yeah. That's great. I don't have room inside. Well, yeah. If you have an outdoor table doesn't matter got one under the deck. Very nice. And it's just the best. I love I I have had many times in my life where and now it's just kind of when I can get someone over family now have a window, but at various points in my life. I have played a lot of ping-pong, including when I lived in LA, my buddy, John Bendel, chef John, you know, John he was I think living in a place that had an outdoor table and this was outdoor in Los Angeles. So it's kinda grades just out there in the backyard. And then my brother, and I have had epic legendary ping pong battles. It has house fun basement like like matches like a single game that went on forever. Kind of thing. Just I mean, not that. But like two out of three. Like every time families over there at one point we will disappear and everyone's like where it's gotten Chuck. Oh, and we're down they're going at it. That's awesome. It's just so much fun. I love ping pong. I I love ping pong too. But my eyes are kind of open. I realize I'm not quite as much the ping pong aficionados. I once thought I was so. Yeah. Yeah. Between you and this article, I realize I'm in total schlub when it comes to ping pong. Yeah. I'm not bad kid. So we're talking pingpong today in Chuck a you can just phone this one in I had to do a lot of extensive shoe leather research on this one. But the the idea of ping-pong when you think of it, especially in the the twenty first century most people think of China when they think of ping-pong you're officially here in the US, but really worldwide because China is nuts for ping pong. And there are plenty of other countries to that love pong. Don't get me wrong, Sweden is known as one of the major wholly insane pong Japanese love ping pong. It's basically almost every country except America really has a thing for ping pong here. It's just, you know, fun recreational stuff in other countries. It has taken very very seriously. And there are pockets that take it seriously here too. There's the US table Tennis Association has been around since the thirties. But I think what I mean it as far as the public goes thinking about tape. Tennis players. We don't exactly like put them hoist them on our shoulders and carry them around the room after a match like that like, my what might happen to him in other countries. That's a very good point. But, but it's sort of more of a recreational like, you said there are some competitive players to be sure and organizations, but it's a it's a sport you can play where you're drinking a beer, you know. Sure. Now, you don't want to do that. If you are actually competitive pro table tennis player, but I say all that choke because. While we think of China's like the home of table tennis. It actually is a British invention. Did you know that? I did. Well, of course, you did your table tennis pro. No. I mean new that just because it was a variation of tennis, which the Brits also gave us. It is a wreck at sport, which you can include things like badminton and smooshed ball and smash ball. What are the things they play down at Venice beach. What is it called pickle ball? Is that what it is basically a miniature tennis court? He's got some mash ball. Okay. I don't know. People are yelling at in their car right now me, I think you're talking about pickle ball is applicable. It's just sort of like a shrunken downton escort. Yeah. But obviously they're playing it looks like tennis with oversize ping pong paddles. Right exa-. Okay. Yeah. This pickle ball. All right. It might be a called smash ball to you know, there's regional differences. Now, grinder hero that. Kind of thing. I think I think mash vol is something else entirely thinking of smash mouth. That again. Yes. Reference to our live shows. We just did. Okay. But what I was saying was it is a known as a record sport or Iraq at game wherein. You have a record. You hit something over a net to another human or maybe robot, even as we'll get to. But and there's a there's a court there are boundaries of some kind that you need to hit it in. It's not just a crazy fee for. All right. Exactly. You can't just like win a point by crushing it over your opponent's head that would be fun. It takes skill and finesse and it even takes more skill and finesse than like tennis does like lawn tennis because Warrenton well, so so there's a difference. There's Royal tennis which is played like I'm trying to remember what movie it appeared in. Maybe he was even downton abbey. I'm not sure, but whether you play indoors, it's like Tennyson doors, and there's like the ball is hard and rafting cloth and doesn't squash. No, no, there's Royal tennis. And then. There's lawn tennis or modern tennis is what it's called and ping pong is very Asian on modern tennis. But it takes more finesse because yes, you can smash the ball, and that is a way to go aggressive attacks style playing. But there's also a really good way to play too, which is is strictly defensive, and it's all finesse and spin, and we'll we'll see like there's a lot of thought that goes into it. Which is why if you notice if you start to look around who plays table, tennis, you'll find that there are table tennis tables in places where they're very smart people like MIT hesitate tennis club and Sern has a table tennis club in one of their one of their cafeterias like smart people like this because there's a lot of physics involved into it. And there's not a lot of running around either. Yeah. You don't see him. You. Don't see dumb dumbs because they're just like, I don't get it. Like smash ball, paddle. But we do know that the although we don't know like the the inventor there's not one person that is credited with its invention. But the story goes that British soldiers in South Africa or India were bored. And you know, the weather wasn't so great, and they were probably drinking. And so they came up with this little smaller version of tennis played on a table. As the story goes using Sobar cigar box lids using borrow leads and a whittled down champagne cork to make it round, which you know, that that wouldn't be a bad little I I go I saw that. Exact same story was attributed to some wealthy British aristocrats who were bored one day. It sounds about. Right. But the there seems to be unanimous agreement that it was on a table with cigar box lids in a cork widow down. Yeah. And so, you know, it it grow from there it grow at growed. Excuse me. He's still got another try left. Did growed from there into wait. You mean grew right. You know, getting right? Okay. Okay. That's the first time. I knew you're kidding. The second time. I was like. We could straight men you really. Are it grew from there in the names changed various times, the first manufactured actually, put out and self ping pong tables was the jockey games company, and they call the gossamer. There was another trademark name with wife, which was the slaves into your company's name in the world was like you got another try that was one called flimflam. I don't know if that was trademarked from company, or if that was just a nickname, and all these with with the exception of Gaza, they they were meant to to emulate the sound the ball made going back and forth. Right. Really? Yes. Yeah. With with didn't sound like with web at all. What about flip flam? Nope. Okay. Maybe the sound of the paddle. It sounds like a win and waf-. Right. But not the ball. Okay. Fine. But gossamer meant it was like after gossamer which was kind of fine and thin and elegant which was like the ball play was what that was describing. They were all terrible terrible names. I can't believe it was just so they did use cork at first, but they didn't bounce. Great rubber wasn't good. Because too much bounce the rackets were really kinda crazy looking at for some had really long handles kind of look like a badminton racquet with a Vela stretched over wooden frame. But they were not they broke on the table and stuff. So they were really kind of refining it in those early years as far as the equipment goes, right? I think it was the was shocked. No, yeah. It was shock the J J Jockan son who were the ones that were selling those like what you just described as kinda cheap. Not well-made not really well thought out equipment for ping pong. Yeah. Boy, it wasn't called ping pong at the time until the late eighteen ninety s when that same company J, Jacques and son who were sporting goods outfit started calling it ping pong in their catalog. It's just converted from Gaza over to ping pong through these guys. Yeah. And it was before that in eighteen eighty five though is an attempt to patent it as table tennis by guiding James Devonshire, but two years later, he abandoned that pursuit. I don't know if it was just taking too long or if he saw the writing on the wall, but he he left that behind and then it would be like you said nineteen ninety one was when John jock trademark that ping pong. Name. Yep. And then Parker brothers bought the North American or at least American rights to use ping pong exclusively. And they brought ping pong to the United States with that. And this is the reason why if you, you know, look up any professional association or any competitive like ping pong group. They always refer to his table tennis because ping pong is a trademark table tennis is not plus also over the years pingpong has gotten an association with people like me. Yeah. Just people having fun playing it. Where table tennis has been the route that you know, most competitive it did not competitiveness competition pro kind of thing. Yeah. For sure. But I think if you're just hanging around the locker room or whatever was some table tennis pros, they'll refer to it as ping pong. And no one's like, oh, I can't believe his call that that. And you're like, no this locker room talk. Right. So the same year that ping-pong was trademarked in nineteen ninety one. That was an Englishman named James Gabe. He found his celluloid balls when he went to the US that were just it wasn't for table tennis. It was just a toy and novelty toy he's like, this is pretty great. Actually, it's pretty lively. It's light just the right amount of bounce. And so I think celluloid is kind of like the route we should take and everyone seemed to agree in that sort of became the defacto ping pong ball. Right. It seems that way. Forever. Celluloid is a type of plastic is super flammable, like it's what film stock like camera film was made from forever. But like I said, it's very flammable and your ball's gonna go up in flames. If you pass it over a candle like if you're lighting your game by candle. So this is not very good. But that was an enormous change that pushed ping pong way forward because up to that point a court ball bounce very well rubber ball bounce too much. You couldn't really play ping pong. Like, we see it today. It was more like oh Cervo. Sorry. Here's another serve. Oh, sorry. Here's another service. My point. It was boring when that guy came along with the CEO e balls and introduced him for ping pong play. That was it made it fun finally pong finally became fun. Yeah. The just a year after that to the paddle, and this is all sort of aligning perfectly. The paddle underwent a big change over the years preceding, they had used cork to cover them and leather sometimes Esau that you can still buy leather covered ping pong paddles. Tiffany's. Yeah. I could totally see that Pearl handle leather leather facing. But they couldn't land on the right materials and then at nine hundred ninety two at a tournament demanding EC good found this dimpled rubber coin Matt rapid around his paddle. And he's like the sing is pretty boss. I can get a little spin on it. We got this ball from the year before and everything sort of clicking at this point. Right. That was so you've got the great ball. You got the great covering and now paint Peng's ready to explode. And it started to and then it just stopped. Let's take a break. Okay. All right is a good cliffhanger and find out what killed ping pong right after this. Well now here. Road drivin in your one learn singer to from Josh John did stuff, you should know. Right. Let me tell you. What bound Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice. Why some nights he even slept in his hockey skates? Pete practiced and practiced unto one day when he was forty seven beat realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then he heard how DIKO proud partner of the NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out. All right. So ping pong is finally coming into its own lives finally getting good and right? Is it is it just it just drops off as a fad the craze, especially in the United States. And I think in Europe to it just kind of went away. And there's no real obvious reason why but our old pal Ed dug up an example that he thinks by behind it. There was a an ad for the national guard in nineteen fourteen where one of the major generals in the national guard said that they don't want any pong warriors. Which implies that the sport was seen as effeminate or that you were kind of a wimp or something if you play ping pong? So it's possible that like that kind of the warlike masculinity rose above it and ping pong pushed down as a result. Well, and also World War One in the Spanish flu. Probably put a dent in. In fun games. Like this overall. I would say sure I mean, that's just a guess, but they had more important more important fish to fry right then playing ping pong but accurate back right after the war, right right after the war. And I don't think that it is coincidental. At this was also a time when people started smoking pot a lot in America the jazz age so you had jazz marijuana cigarettes in ping pong. Those are the three of the jazz age quite a mix. And then so Parker brothers still had their their trademark on this whole thing. They're like, oh, great, Holly, Louis. It's the jazz age. They started throwing these competitions with cash prizes and celebrities showed up it was a big deal. Yeah. I imagine during the marijuana craze to they were like this is great for what we're doing. But we gotta keep score. And that's a problem. Right. Somebody's gotta stay sober for this. Like, what was it who serve was it? No, wait. Is it seven six? Do we twenty one? Man your way to tie for this. So believe in the twenties is when they started having these big tournaments Parker brothers with prizes. Celebrities were coming out. The ITTF was officially founded in the mid twenty s that's the international table tennis foundation. Yeah. And they start having world championships in nineteen twenty six. Yeah. Like right off the bat. Yeah. And it was a big deal. Like, obviously they stopped during World War Two for a period of time. But pretty much every couple of years since nineteen twenty six aside from the war. They started holding these I guess would it be biannual or what's your two years? Well, that could be yes by annuals over two years. That's not twice a year. I think it can be as one of those things I think you would use semi semi annual might even be quarterly. I'm not sure I think it can mean either one just like with weekly. Yeah. But those first years. Hungarians were the dominant country. They won eight of the first nine four of those went to the same guy a gun in Victor Barra. One thirty two thirty three thirty four and thirty five men. That's good. Yeah. So he was doing pretty good. But the United States was not now the like, I said, the U S T T A didn't form until nineteen thirty three. And even then if you wanted to go play really like high level table tennis. She went to one place in the entire country Lawrence's Broadway courts in Manhattan town, got to go to New York if you wanna play ping pong, see if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere in the US. But don't even try it in Hungary. Yeah. Just wasn't it. Just didn't catch on like it did in Europe. No it didn't. This is like this is the same. Like, there was never I think it was kind of big in the seventies to again pot and the United States, but it it's never been like like explosively sustainably popular, it has an in other countries and import. So the Europeans are dominating table tennis from about the the mid twenties to almost to the early fifties. Yeah. In from thirty to fifty the Soviet Union bandit for twenty years really that left of Soviet vacuum. Okay. So so the Hungarians while the Hungarians would have been on her Soviet control. Then. I don't know the answer that question. Yeah. I guess they would have been. So that would have I guess I wonder if that's when it moved over to western Europe, north western Europe, like Sweden and Germany, maybe supposedly the best alltime players Sweden. That's what I've heard too. So the Mozart have table tennis. I don't know John John ove Waldner. Oh, you would the oh. The Sean part. I'm like, I don't know if he's Swedish. And then the over really got me John's probably yawn yawn. Ova waldner. Yeah. Nice supposedly the best ever. So is he contemporary? I don't know. Okay. So so you've got this. You've got Europe dominating. America's like, we're not even trying right now. And this is basically from the twenty s to the early fifties. And then in nineteen fifty two Asia's steps in and says, don't forget Asia in the form of a man named Hiroki Sato, and he showed up at the world championship in nineteen fifty two embalm bay or moon by and he said, hey, you know, how there's no rules about what kind of paddle. I can use it. What size it is. Or there's not really a lot of a lot of guidance on the pedal. Check this out. He had put foam around his paddle. And boy did that make the ball bounce back. It increase the speed of the ball. Tremendously. And he just dominated that that tournament and became world champion in nineteen fifty two by the way that guy is totally contemporary Yano. They've older he's in his fifties. He's retired. Now. I don't know why you would retire from table tennis. So one thing I read I read a article about a kid who is one of the best in the world who is actually from America's in Indian American. He he trains like he has a train to move around the table fast enough. We'll supposedly if you're an advanced player you can burn up to five hundred calories and our playing table tennis a set. Right. It's what they say. That's a that's a Snickers bar and a half. Yeah. I mean, I work up a sweat this. That's me as well though. So I take that it can consideration. I can sweat playing. Jess, I can't wait till you reach the age where you just walk around in public with a pan towel around your neck does that what's his. Name from the office. Greg Robinson said his name. Oh, craig. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's famous for sort of just dripping sweat del over shoulder. Yeah. Why not you know? Good for him. I'm gonna follow that lead. So there's worse leads. You could follow for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So Hiroji Sato showed up with his phone, paddle, paddle foam, covered paddle and just dominate in became the the the hero or the champion of that tournament end of the world. But there's two legends that happened to him afterward one he returned home and was hailed a hero and a champion by Japan and two he returned home and was scorned as a dishonourable winner because he used an unusual paddle and never played table tennis again. And it turns out that he doesn't show up in any other tournament and that one maybe he was like, well, I cheated I'm going to go do some other stuff or maybe he really was like this is this. Everyone's right. This was dishonorable. I'm never gonna play again. Interesting. I hope there wasn't some various action taken I hope so too. So over the years a lot of changes have taken place. To make it more playable and more. And this is like the official rules in competition to make it more playable and to make it better for people watching it. They lower the net by about an inch over the years on to make it gets a little zippier and more fun. They increase actually not too long ago in two thousand they increase the size of the ball by two millimeters to slow it down a little bit because it was getting so fast. People can follow it. It was like Forrest Gump up in their. Yep. And people aren't this isn't I mean, it has to be. I mean, it's not a big TV sport here, obviously. But it's a big TV sport. And a lot of the world, right? Like people watch this stuff. Yeah. I mean, the camera has to be able to see where the ball's going this hockey, you know, people want to see what's going on. They could do the the glowing ball like they did in hockey for a while. Oh, I forgot about that. Yes. Same company that did the ten yard line the first down line. Oh, right. Wasn't really. Yeah. Yeah. It was did glowing things. I think we talked about. I can't remember what? So we talked about that one before. But okay. So you have the foam paddled padded, paddle. You've got balls that work. Really? Well, and you have what else Chuck you have a lowered net. Yes. You have a bigger ball. You have an and then probably the cream of the crop. It's not what I'm looking for may. And my just to. No, that's the death below. Okay. The well, the pinnacle they made it in Olympic summer sport. Yes. In nineteen eighty eight. Yes. Which I get it. No. It's like okay now, you're not just wasting your life being approach table tennis player. Yeah. Just just in it for the pot. You know, you can actually train go to the Olympics for your country. That's right. Pretty monumental. Should we talk about playing styles a bit? I think we should I like what you're like where you're going or not going with this next. Well, so the point is made in this article that table tennis is is a game all about the style of play sorta like boxing, you can come out swinging hard. You can come out with the rope adoped you can play defense, and boxing, and you can kind of do that. In tennis. You can be really aggressive and try and set up for the big smashes or you could be what's known as the chisel or or pusher. Right and just be really fundamentally sound and wait for your Ponant to make a mistake. Right. And that was chiseling was huge back before the phone paddles because that's all you really had. You couldn't you couldn't attack with a huge super fast return. I mean, you could try, but it wasn't going to really work. Yeah. But once the introduction of foam came around chiseling became like a decision you could also be a an attacker as well. Yeah. I mean, I think now you gotta have all the weapons in your pong arsenal. Right. Exactly. You know, you can play the spin game you can be defensive. But you also got gotta hang fifteen feet back off the table and hit those big loop shots, right? Yeah. You won't be able to do both for sure. So with the chillers, though, the defensive minded people in nineteen thirty eight this legendary match took place the world championships between two of the greatest chisels of all time a polish player named Alex Erlich and a Romanian named paneth Farkas. This was such a like. Like, I mean, I've read into this too. It just doesn't seem like it's possible that the following took place. Okay. Well, this is how it was recorded in nineteen sixty five in Sports Illustrated. All right, there are a lot of little points here. This is nineteen thirty eight by the way. Did you say that? Yeah. Okay. The most epic part of this is it was the first point supposedly the very first point took two hours and twelve minutes to complete. So they just kept hitting it back and forth. It was a two hour and twelve minutes volley. It was zero zero at two hours twelve minutes. That's how good these guys were chiseling or just playing defensively. I somebody hits you hit it right back. Somebody is he hit it right back. You're trying to smash down their throat, and you're just patiently waiting for them to make a mistake. Fast game, still it's not like shirt playing with a six year old, right? But the thing is I it's a fast game. But you as the play. Later improbably as a spectator are like start to feel like you're about to go insane. Because you're locked into this zero zero like for at the time ping pong was played to twenty one. Whoever gets a twenty one first and then you had to still win by two points. So if this was zero zero for two hours and twelve minutes the ball crossed the net twelve thousand times and just don't know if a buy it. That's the problem timewise. Yeah. So here's all the things that supposedly happened a referee in the match is neck locked up and had to be replaced mid point his neck had to be replaced. Yeah. Erlich switched hands because he got tired and played with his left hand for a little while every now, and then a believe that during the point the ITTF got together to negotiate. Shortening. The the match the game to five points instead of twenty one right, but they had to have the proper representatives from the different countries there, and it Ehrlich was the Representative from Poland. So they couldn't have this meeting without him. So they had the meeting table side during the match like during this point as it was going on supposedly Ehrlich had a chessboard setup table side. And during the match was also playing chess and saying what moved to make about that. That's what he said. That's why I don't believe any of this all sounds like tall tale. Well, there are other people there. All right. Well, then he played chess. I don't I don't know about that one. But I do think that there are definite elements to that. I believe that there was a two hour twelve minute period where there was euro two zero. I don't know. That's that's true. Well, there's so much stuff attached to this. It makes me doubt the whole thing Austrian players supposedly went to a movie came back still during the first point. And then finally the Romanian paneth Farkas mister return Ehrlich goes up one. Oh, and then they start in on point number two. They get twenty minutes into that one. And supposedly other members of the polish team pulled out knives and bread and a two foot sausage thinking that they were going to be there forever. And this made Farkas basically lose his mind. He lost his marbles like Burger King. He he went on the attack at that point. He went from being a what do they call the chisel or to going hard on the attack hit it twice Erlich return both? And then he basically lost it supposedly just blasted the ball over his head and ran out screaming. I love that story. This one of the better pingpong stories around. I believe about ten percent of it. All right. Put even if the only thing you believe is that they were zero zero for two hours and twelve minutes. Now, you keep saying I believe that I'm saying even if that is the only thing you believe then that's good enough. Yano by what do you think? Like that. There was a match between these two. And then that's it. Everything else has made up. No, I think I think Laura has taken over in that it has been enriched over the years to where people were going to movies and the dude was playing chess. And sure, yeah, I I just I don't I don't buy that. It went down like that. But do you believe that they were zero zero for two hours and twelve minutes? I don't know if I believe that or not because I haven't seen a verified source other than this guy telling the story. Okay. Where did you see it other than this guy telling the story nowhere? But I mean that takes a lot of gall to just make up that story tell it to Sports Illustrated have it printed in Sports Illustrated, knowing that anybody could go behind you and say, well, let's look at the records for that night in C and just say, well, this guys totally lying will my answer. Is people have goal. Yeah. Well, you and I are going to agree to disagree just to keep things moving because I think at the very least they were zero zero for two hours and twelve minutes, I buy that. Here's what I think. I'm definitely not going to say, well, it was in Sports Illustrated. So it had to be true. All right. All right. So enough Reagan on supports those traded from you. Hey and magazine for many many years. You know, who's on my first cover Giselle bunching. Muhammad ali. Oh, wow. I started getting it when I was a kid. Jeez. Wow. Do you still have that one? But it's worth like seven ten dollars. Now. I do I think my mom kept all the like many many years in a box. It's kind of fun to go through and look every now and then oh, yeah. For sure. All right. So this fake match happens. In the nineteen thirties Jewish table tennis players, and we should point out that many of the early world champions were Jewish men. They fled Germany for England. And then Erlich who we just mentioned the polish player was threatened. Obviously, he was in Poland when the Nazis invaded, and he was sent to Auschwitz, and he was literally being led to the gas chamber when German Nazi guard recognized him and spared his life. Yeah. Like he was about to die and he got moved around from concentration camp to concentration camp until the allies liberated him and others from the concentration camp us in. And then right after the war. He went right back to table tennis, man. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. All right. I think should take a break. Okay. Go talk about Sports Illustrated, some more that the bastion. Of. Journalists and journalism. That's right. And we'll be back right after this. Well now here in Rhode drivin in your shock one. Learn a singer to from Josh Chuck stuff, you should know. All right. Everybody. Josh listeners posted rates have gone up again again. Yes. But you know, what, thankfully or old friends at stamps dot com. Can ease that pain with big discounts off post office retail rates. Yeah, that's true. And with stamps dot com. You can save five cents off every first class stamp and up to forty percent off of priority mail, and that really adds up especially for small businesses. That's right. Everyone knows it stamps dot com. Automatically calculates and prints. The exact amount of posted that you need for every letter every package you send you will. 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Everybody was business a patient back and forth game just wants the phone pedals came up it change the game so radically like you said they actually enlarge the size of the ball to increase the air is assistance to it to slow it down. Yeah. Which is a huge change for everybody to get used to as well. I think that was in the two thousands that that change was made. But from the fifty two thousand people were just crushing the ping pong while it got really fast and really fast paced. It was fun. But it got too fast. So the the ITTF stepped in and said note, we gotta make some changes. And that's some of the other things that they've done to. They've made changes in rules over the over the lifetime of ping-pong to to make the game hard and interesting, but also to make it fun to watch too. Yeah. They now you play to eleven in competition play used to be twenty one for most just sort of backyard fun players. It's still twenty one. But these people are twenty one these people are so good though that Twenty-one it's way too long of a game. You can play a point for two and a half hours. Right. Two hours and twelve minutes to be precise. They change sometimes the serve rotation. Like, how many times you serve in a row before you? Switch it up which side you play on. You can't hide the ball when you serve because you know, trenches trying to make the game as fair as possible. The dimensions of the table are kind of interesting. If you're looking at it in meters, if you're from the United States, it's a nine foot long table five feet wide, two and a half feet high. But that's two point seven four meters. One point five to five meters wide seventy six centimeters high right? The net is six inches high. But that's after they lowered it a bit. Have you seen how they make balls? Yeah. Like the little factory. Yeah. You sound like video of it. Be me. I can watch that stuff all day long. I know same here if you if you look at ping pong balls before they're formed into balls. They actually start his little flat plastic circles, and the that was that is one half of a ping pong ball. And they take it, and they form it. They press like a like a ball bearing ping pong ball sized ball bearing in hot water to mold it, and they take to those two halves and put them together and seal them, and then they trim off the fat, and there's you ping pong ball. But that's not the end of the life of the ping pong ball manufacturing process because the the companies that make ping pong ball. Specifically, there's one that's like a globally dominant dominating ping equipment company called double happiness, which we'll talk about later, but they do so much quality control. It's astounding before they sell a pingpong ball. Oh, I'm sure like there's. There is a to to measure bounce. There's like a specific amount of bounce that the I T T A requires for a ping pong ball. And so a company will will measure it by dropping a set height. I think like three hundred millimeters and it has to bounce back up like two forty two to sixty. They measure it with the digital camera that has to have a specific hardness. So these robot with a needle to test the pressure it takes to puncture it with a a needle casper mattresses, but they drop a human. Exactly, the they drove they roll it on an inclined to see where veers. I mean. There's a lot going on there just to make pingpong ball. That's that's usable in a game. Sure. I think that I mean, I think it's top notch. So they take it that seriously. You know, I mean any competition sporting ball undergoes incredible testing, right? It's like they just don't throw out an NFL, football or basketball. Either tennis ball what it's pretty amazing. Yeah. It is but ping pong ping pong balls. That's what I'm talking about here. I think he. I think he secretly are kind of making fun of ping-pong. I don't mean to be. My my my of ping-pong has changed as a result of right researching this how about that? So the paddles themselves they are laminated wood. When you look at them, you can tell with sort of pressed together of different woods. Some of them are fiberglass there are carbon fibre paddles, which I would love to give that whirl yet. But I saw that the eighty five percent of the thickness has to be would says I mean, there's like carbon-fiber in the middle of eighty just to make it like slightly lighter would be my guess. Uh-huh. I have no idea. Okay. There are all kinds of materials like from just the regular. You can still get like this an paper paddles, very low fi. But those that padded rubber on one side and the texture little rubber dimples on the other side, which have to be two different colors, by the way, because the other players supposedly needs to know which side, you're hitting it with right? So they know what's coming or you know, to a varying degree what might be coming, right? But that's sort of like the classic paddle that most people have settled on right now. Yeah. And the the smooth petted side would be for chiseling and the the dimpled side would be for attacking and for probably the most important part of ping-pong spin to add spin to the ball. Yes. A pretty good spinner. Oh, you're like not just won't kind of thinking, you do multiple kinds of spin. Yeah. I've got a good backhand spinner shot. That's very fast, and and sort of flick of the wrist that it it just shoots off the paddle. And then has a nice little topspin to it while and trying to angle that to the furthest corner. Then I can that's really impressive. Chuck. Why didn't say was great at it? But he'd try. That's the aim. This is what's going on in your head at least, right? Yeah. But I'm not like a great. I mean, what even call it a smash or a? Slam an attacker. Well, just the big, you know, oh, the smashmouth. Yes. The smashmouth I'm not against smashmouth or I'm not great. I mean, get lucky every once in a while. But I still try because it's such a boss move. It really is pretty cool, but that's sort of the variation of the loop stroke, which is what you see on TV when someone just throws a big haymaker. It's all in the hips and the legs tons of topspin, and that sort of like that main shot for what would be a big smash to me sort of the regular shot that people volley back and forth on in competition. Right. And when you when you're doing the loop. It's like from what I saw it's an upward chopping motion. Where you're just basically bringing the pedal up really quick as it comes in contact with the ball, which like you said gives it tons of topspin. And there's this thing called the Magnus effect with fluid dynamics, whereas this ping pong is moving through the air the bottom. Or the side of it that spinning into the air is generating more resistance. So there's higher air pressure there than there is on top. And I'm sorry on the bottom which makes the ball fall because there's less pressure there. So when you put spin on the ball, depending on which direction it's going you can make it go left right up down, and depending on the type of the type of what's it called? When you hit the ball, the grip the saying wing upon it, depending on this. I guess is the stroke, depending on the stroke us, you can apply different spin to the ball. But that's the big reason why like one side of a ping pong paddle is dimpled. Yeah. That you can make contact with the ball really kind of grip it while you're giving it that spin. Yeah. Ping. So they're all kinds of grips the the shake hand grip has sort of if you don't play a lot of ping-pong, and it's probably just the standard little grip that you would want to use the pen. Hold grip is what you see my brother and Asian players use. That's got to move the one with the thumb on the back side of it. Yeah. It's basically your thumb and forefinger kinda wrap around the handle and almost touch each other. And then your other three fingers arresting on the back of the paddle itself. And it sort of sort of looks like you're holding the pedal upside down, well 'cause you kind of our yes. But that's my brother is a total penholder. Gotcha. What about the similar Miller grip? Do you ever do that? That's Danny c Miller. That's I didn't really quite get the that's like the shake hand. But what I saw was like the thumb in forefinger are kind of resting on the face of the paddle. Sometimes the finger forefinger is wrapped around sort of on the side of the paddle. What I saw was that. So you've got your three your pinkie finger your ring finger in your index finger or that's on the pedal middle finger are all rep. Yeah. That's on the handle your forefinger and your thumb are like control, they're like up against the edges. Of the paddle. And it makes it easier to spin the paddle and control. That's what I saw is the similar grip. Yeah. Well, it's easier to flip the paddle to use both sides of it. Right. Exactly. So you wanna chisel here, and then maybe a little attack there put some spin on. And then just push it back. You just flip it back and forth. Thanks to Danny c Miller. Yeah. And I love the next part of this article, which is like if you wanna know all the rules of pink Kong, go look up. Right because it would be kind of boring just to read all those out. Sure. But there are. I mean, if you're playing at someone's house, you play house rules just ask what they are. It'd be a good guest. He get guests and say what are the house rules because people play differently? Some more not obscure rules, but sort sort of nit picky rules that casual players might not know independent on on where you play the house rules. It may take effect or not you're supposed to toss the ball at least sixteen centimeters into the air before you serve. Right. My house rule is you just have to have some air between. The like you can't just hold it in your hand and hit it off your hand. Like, we don't say it has to be sixteen centimeters. But there has to be a little bit of air between your hands. I see the ball has to be suspended before you serve it. So what happens if someone violates your house rules or are? They like tired tired and feathered. Now, you say, dude, what are you doing not cool? So here's a smashmouth for you. And you have to serve behind the in line. That's a pretty standard even for house rules like eating over the table. Oh, I see what you mean. You can't lean forward a couple of feet 'cause I was gonna say I thought you were saying like you have to get it inside a squared. You get it to the other square. And I saw that. That's that only applies in doubles. Yeah. You can serve it to either side when you're playing singles, correct. Right. And then if you if it touches your hand that you're holding the paddle with apparently, according to the ITTF your hand is part of the paddle as far as they're concerned. So if it if it bounces off your hand, that's there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. I always get the thumb hit though. And it always sends it off in a bad direction. Yeah. And I always go, I'm hit you need to do more similar. For C Miller less thumbs. He's right. The pimples believe it or not those are regulated they cannot be larger than two millimeters. But astoundingly the size of the paddle is not at all regulated you could show up with pickle ball, paddle if he wanted to and they'd be like if it works, but the foam padding on either side, if you're a competitive table tennis player, you glue your own foam on cheat it to right? Yeah. For a lot of until the Beijing Olympics, you could from I think the sixties until the Beijing Olympics. They would use a specific kind of glue. That would would it would expand. But at the same time soften the foam underneath the exterior of the foam padding. So you've got like the the layer that like the rubbery layer. And then underneath that is foam like a spongy material. It would get into the pores of that spongy material, and it would make that ball bounce even faster and would just give it a an enormous amount of speed. But just for a short amount of time the right, right? So if you were in a tournament, you were pulling off and then re-glue in your your foam pads on multiple times over the course of that weekend because you get about three or four hours of good. I don't know ricochet return off of those things, and then they would dry up in in. It wouldn't be quite as as useful. Cheaters L of the article sent where they were basically like everyone was doing it everybody. They call it doping table tennis doping. But the problem is is it had a lot of volatile organic compound. So the international table tennis foundation said no, we don't want people getting cancer. So we got a ban it, and they actually test paddles now in a little machine that tests for volatile organic compounds eleven Yup. Get those rats out of the game about you got. To win by two. Like, we said generally played at twenty one at home eleven and competition. I think we said, and then obviously, you just anything is appointed. If you get the points, not like volleyball. You don't have to be serving to get the point right, which I love that too. Makes the game go a lot faster. Yeah. And just whole problem is keeping up with that score. Yeah. That's why you wanna sober person. They're taking keeping school for you. I guess we should finish with this. Well, a couple of things, but you've heard the term ping pong diplomacy. Joe's a big story there. Yeah. That came from a real thing that happened obviously trying to live in isolation for decades and decades from the rest of the world and then during the Cold War. Of course, we were on the US was on the opposite side of China. Not a lot of travel going back and forth or loud between the countries until the international competition of nineteen seventy-one where the Chinese table tennis team went to the championships in Japan. Right Mets, some Americans and in particular one American named Glenn Cowan, and he was so I came in like, we're all the same. Really? We all love table tennis, regardless of our grip let shake hands and he wrote the bus with him on the way back to the hotel. So so let me let me just interject here. He got on the bus accidentally. He had missed his own. Bus and these were buses that were taking the teams to the hotel. And there was like the first ten minutes of this fifteen minute bus ride were silent intense because these two enemy groups were on the same bus in. No, one knew what to do until Jong's Zidong stood up and said, I'm going to go talk to this guy. Yeah. But they got along great. Like, I said they had more in common than they thought and table tennis or ping pong is literally what brought them together. And it was seen as a sort of an emblematic thing flash. Forward a bit to the press covering this. It becomes a big deal. The US table tennis competition team said we want to go to China and like because they're the best of the best over there. And mouse dung said sure come on over they did. So in April nineteen seventy-one they spent a week there. It was big in the news, and it literally kind of thought relations between the US. And China using it paved the way for a trip by Richard Dixon. Like, the the US table tennis team went over there before Nixon did and just shared love of table tennis. And this this just kind of international exposure of these two enemy countries like getting along whatever it takes to build common ground and consensus if it's table tennis, awesome so much the better. So the the it led to to normalize relations between the two countries very quickly like within a year after after the or the beginnings of normalized relations within a year after the the the thing we're all because Ziyang Zidong came over and said, hey, man, I just want to say thank you for playing table tennis and gave him a scarf, and Glenn Cowan had a comb on him. And he's like this isn't a good enough reciprocal gift. So he later gave Zang Zidong a a t shirt with a peace symbol on. It which is pretty cool, man. Richard Nixon well-known lover of sexual in cuisine in marijuana. Yes. Ama- peace symbol t shirts. He was one of those. In public. We should also talk a little bit about ping pong robots in nineteen ninety two. They they built a table tennis robot? It was okay. You could program it to to imitate different styles. But it wasn't like when when you played again when it played against the human being it was what what what what would happen there. It was just shooting them all to the same place at the same. That's right. It was. It's going to go. There wasn't a lot of training from it. But then they started inventing robots that could like Ed spin to it. And right get so moves and that was in the early nineties when they first came out with those than the ones they have today. One came out in two six t two thousand sixteen called f- four S F O R P H E US scary looking. Yeah. It is. And it completes a mean ping pong. But it's it like actually plays you. It's a an AI that plays you ping pong. But it's like a giant mechanical spider? He kind of looking thing yet. It's really creepy. Looking it looks like a? Yeah. It looks like a big spider sitting high above the table across from you. And I saw the video the guy playing in its ES. And he he was felt bad for the guy because you cannot beat the thing. Well, plus, he also goes we'll put some kind of nervous because always watch the ass at one point. He's like zero literally like nothing. I can do this thing went return. They're like, Nope. Yeah. So then he was like, well, why am I even here? Well, yeah. It's an AI. It's it's tracking the ball's velocity trajectory and like making calculations about how to best return it. It's you're not gonna win against it. Nope. Nope. But you can train really. Well, the beat other human socks off with it. That's right. So I don't have anything else to you. I'm looking at my fun facts. I got in. Three of the four the last one here is in nineteen Ninety-three the world record was set between two players who if you're talking like speed ping pong. They hit a back and forth one hundred seventy three times in sixty seconds. Oh my God. That is some serious speed play. That is that's an amazing fact, but it's got nothing on the two hour and twelve minute. Knowing fake news. All right now, you got anything else. All right. Well, if you know more about pingpong, go start playing greatest thing you can ever try to do with your life. And since I said that it's time for listener mail. We should have totally have a ping pong table. Here at work. I agree. I don't think we have room for it anymore. But at one point we probably did I know now where it's all production space production space, and we're like, where's ping pong? I'm gonna call this. Well, we've been getting a lot of heat lately for two errors one of which was sort of a joke by me, which I'm gonna read now, but we should also say about figs and dates and prunes same things. They're all the same thing. It's like it's like, pork ham bacon. Now, we we heard from a lot of people about that. And we understand now. Yeah, we I I mean, I got it flat out wrong. So sorry about that everyone. You can stop telling us now. Right. This is about average life expectancy, which I was kind of just kidding about. I it was I think Spanish flu episode. I made a joke about the life expectancy being fifty or something and it was like, so I'd almost be dead. So I'll just read this. Hey stuffers. Hope this doesn't come across the being snarky your trolley. But I think you should try and clear up the difference between average actual life expectancy and average life expectancy Chuck more than once. So I guess it said this before you've made it sound as if people in the past could only expect to live into the thirties or forties. That is not the case people have well into their sixty seventies eighties nineties just like today, and it gives some prominent examples of old people back in the day. And then he says what drove the average life expectancy down was insanely high rate of infant and childhood mortality people had used families back in the past just to try and ensure that some of their children's survived into adulthood because so many data's infants and others never made it past or second or third year due to mumps, measles, influenza, etc. The absolute horror of whooping cough. Let's not forget polio. In any number of plagues that modern medicine has managed to render vastly less lethal. Thanks, mostly to our friend vaccines. So more and more children are surviving. 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AWTY 103 - The Iidaverse (Ping Pong: The Animation with Paul Gonzales)

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AWTY 103 - The Iidaverse (Ping Pong: The Animation with Paul Gonzales)

"The Hello, and welcome to our reap there yet in exploration and education and anime I'm your anime idiot Patrick Dugan. I'm anime expert Dana Hollander. Burn them a coli, your anime forrest gump. And I'm a tiny ball enthusiast, Paul Gonzalez who Well this morning's. Events tiny just a small friends all in your hand fair wherever you want. God I'm getting flashbacks to going to a dentist getting a bouncy ball afterwards like teeth cleaning, and then going into a small bathroom at my parents house where it had no windows. So very enclosed turn off rocket that Bouncy ball around the room call to buy couldn't tell you why why did it I? Oh, okay. All right. Then no follow up questions caves wait. Oh, wait there was a place. In in where I used to live. It was called scooters. Grownup like play place thing Oh and they had this room where you would go in and it was just like screw concrete block in the middle of the bigger play area where you would just go in and throw hundreds of bouncy balls against the. Who I went to a party there and these guys took their shirts off and went in there and I was like what? The fuck. Enabled zoned. Absolute chaos continuous chip damage the balls just British at all. You have to sign a waiver just to look at the box. It's all funny game. So loses an eye. Anyway Anyway, where are we talking about small balls? Well. Well. Today, we're watching Paul's very favorite anime and also an animated I love now. Pong. The animation who who spent a long time coming it sure has. It's been on our recommendation column for a while and we're we're sitting at pulse desk and we have some ping pong. All Hell so I take it, you enjoy it I love Ping Pong I. I watched it. I think in twenty four teen I know I graduated around that time. I remember I watched half of it, and then I invited all my friends to my friend's house. And then we'll watch together and I've watched it like twice a year sense twice a year something like that. I recently watched it again. Yeah with me. Before that. He has the BLU ray. Blu Ray it's the best decision I ever made. A worthy investment for that amount of us. Oh. Yeah. That's dedication. Yeah and so I just watched it all recently for the first time after him not pestering me about it. You should watch ping pong because I was nervous nervous I wouldn't like it so I did and. It was good. It's very good and I hope you guys like it. I'm very. I'm you can continue speaking to each other. Yes it's not like rar anything right? Let's fine you'll like it. I mean. That's cross. We've follow seventeen different ping pong balls, all their lives converging together at one spot. Yeah. That's why it's called Ping Pong. It goes back and. So quickly you cannot open. It's so hard to understand. Either of you heard of this. Only you and Paul. Pretty obscure. It's not very popular I guess I should say it's not obscure I haven't heard. Sorry go ahead. I was gonNA say got overshadowed because it came out literally the same season as Haiku It got overshadowed by pretty boys doing sports. Someone who watches read all the time Q. I I, get it but also. I, Q? That's all we're going to. Give you a special on. We gotTA tackle. We've got a plan without one. Getting me and my boy Tanaka. Anyway. Yeah. I've heard high Q. OR I. Sorry. Volleyball Boys I've heard of paying mini, hike you what this show is called. Volleyball. I. Remember seeing bits of ping-pong. Late, all the are being advertised video clips of it because the animation just fair unique especially for anime So I remember seeing close if it when it came out but I didn't I don't remember hearing much about people talking about not like Heike were demon slayer some big enemy that everyone's talking about it but I do know like the the artist I follow on twitter we're very much like. To show slaps. Yeah. It's very cool. Why take I wanted to hold on watching it till the podcast does. I'LL PRICEY I. So like flattering to me. I'M GONNA wait. I from what I saw was just like the stills and like some of the videos sleep, the animation alone had my interest. I'm GonNa Watch this eventually and I saw on your list I was like, all right. I'll hold off until we cover it. Yeah. It's definitely not pretty like it's not high Q. Like I feel like even if it didn't come out the same season, his high Q. I feel. Like people would still look at it and be like Yeah, it's there's a reason like a lot of anime kind of similar because it works and like people. Like people used to this. But if the animation styles like challenging, that's a good to sweat a lot of people before they even give it a shot. But I'm excited me to. But yes. So we're going to dive two episodes two three in. Yes sir. beat the BEEP beep beep stop the person oppressing news news alert. I just received a letter from Brandon McCullough inland mail. Fraud? What's Truly on the break Sam just. Handed me a letter I. Absolutely forgot about him on the show a super forgot about this why I'm elderly two days ago and I already forgot. All right. We're we'RE GONNA. More. So nervous it does not warrant this at all. Is a medium precious To me. It is it says I'm Harry. Champion. I'm a man destined to be king. He have used the great US Postal Service A-, send me a Zoya. I'm glad this has to stay this. documented. Because support your local postal. Yeah. Please male and everyone. I'm going to give YOU BRENNAN'S A. Letter. Do turn it over. got Zoe. You. Ain't. GonNa. I'm glad we were all here for this. A truly beautiful Yeah I. Yeah. We have a we have a fun show today, but I needed to share this. I knew it was coming of age so. I'm glad. A Lotta time doing this quarantine. If anything should interrupt this episode I'm glad it was. Different mediums. So Ping Pong Ping. Yes but you think well. We have to talk about it. Okay. Yes. So full disclosure we did well, at least I did watch the first episode. Just, four full context. At daynuss request yes. We want above and beyond for ping-pong. I'm so glad you did because I was just so concerned I was like, well, if they like it, I don't want them to have to go back and watch episode one and also. There's only eleven episodes so it does provide important context but like episodes three and four are like more you know what I mean. Yeah. It's not like a super complicated show, but I would have been confused by some of the characters dynamics without episode on right. That's why with one piece I recommended you guys go back and watch all eight, hundred, thirty, four episodes. And I'm still working on it. All right. Shall we discuss? All right. So just to quickly recap episode one. r-maine characters. The main to really are smile and PETCO. They are on a ping pong team at high school together their first years they hear about another high school inviting a popular popular successful Chinese player onto their team named a wing Kong. So, they go there to see him and they don't see him in the practice room they start playing together and then Wayne Gay here's them playing and he's like, Oh, one of those people is super talented and he's leading the other person win. So he goes down there. And he wants to play against. Smile. But smile does not want to and he beats peck overly bad 'cause. Pekka. Will play against anybody to show off. and. Yeah, that's pretty much relieve. He Beats Peck overly bad cries and Paco Christ PETCO. Christ. When he loses, it's a bad habit torture. And PETCO PAIKO is a very talented player, but he doesn't go to practice So that's like his thing I will say an episode one Wanggai's he listening these. I can tell that one player's going easy on the other player just by the noises of their paddles and the shoes just like all right. This is silly but. I'll go on for minutes I'll take it. Oh, this episode one I'll see where it goes fully dining just that moment where both people listening to it and can understand what's happening just by the way this is insane. So the beginning of episode two we see PETCO, and he's sitting at their childhood DOJ Joe where they learn to play Ping Pong. Ping Pong balls on his eyes and he's just laying back and he's like our show is never born. I lost one game I'm done I'm washed up is a very dramatic kid. And the owner of the DOJ. Oh, they just call her old lady. She's like go home. You're like bringing down the VIBE. Here. And PETCO. It's not only upset that he lost, but he's rethinking it and he can't think of Wanggai's weaknesses. And then we see the team at the school wing is joining and they're like chatting up a storm while they're watching him practice and. He speaks Chinese. Case, anybody was wondering everybody else Japanese Wengen his coach speak Chinese. So no one can understand him and he can't understand anybody. And so they're talking and he gets really upset and is essentially tells them to shut up a, but his coach is always who translates for him is always much kinder than when gay actually is. and. He's like I want to play against that kid with the glasses, the chopper with the glasses and then the coach tells them that and they're like Oh. Yeah. Come over here dude and it's just some we'll plump kid. Definitely. Not Smile. That's not the either we know and love. I would say that this transcends the truth. If he has glasses on calling them eater. That's that's just basic as. Okay. We all eat at only requirement. Yes where all The the Ito was the friends we made along the way. To the diverse. So we see smile sitting in a locker and it's like a it's like a mind thing a mind metaphor. S isn't. Necessarily it's a classroom with a locker in and he's inside the locker. And he's talking to himself and he's like I like it here. It's quiet and no, one can bother me. But, then the hero arrives. And we see like quote across the screen there's blood tastes like iron there's hot blood flowing through his veins. And then the hero fights like a god Silla in the fight some robots robots league just so just bad stuff. Yeah. Some stuff. And then he pulls smile out of the locker and metaphorically out of the slump. ooh. Wow. And then. Smile is telling the older dudes in the Ping Pong club where PETCO is because every time he's not there they ask him and he's like he's probably at the Doj Oh if you wanna, go get him I will draw you a map like I am not in charge of him and then they say they're going to beat him up. And then the coach tells smile not to play against PETCO anymore because he goes easy on him and smile is like I do do I and the coaches like Oh. So you you can't tell that you do that and it's like And then coaches like all right kid you're gonNA. Start Training with me at five in the morning every day and he's like I am not going to do that, and then the coaches like well, I am the devoted husband type. So I'm willing to wait for you ski gives me. Pick coaches such a good character. Every character in this show is fucking amazing. And we're back at the DOJO and PETCO is complaining about the amount of carbonation in his drink. He does this a lot like throughout the whole throughout the whole series just like talks about snacks and stuff he's very passionate about it. We got US SELTZER SNOB over. and. And he asks smile how practice was and he's like I bet you had to run a lot because I wasn't there ha ha and smile just keeps responding with and he's like, all right. Well, guess I'm going to quit ping pong and smile just says and he's like Come on tell me not to kind of like he doesn't say that but that's what that's obviously what he wants to do. And then smile says, if you WANNA quit go ahead like don't force yourself to do something you don't want to do and Petco just like Yeah. And then PETCO asks how long until the championship qualifiers are a smile says there's two months away and then PETCO complains that there's no time for relaxing. Next Day. Coach is sitting with PETCO and a smile in a classroom, and he is complaining to smile about how he waited in the morning for four days in a row and how come well won't won't you come train with me? who is High School please come to school early. Why won't you please? Isn't this thing that's super unimportant to really important to you. Important to me wisn important to you. When are you ever going to use English vocabulary life? That's stupid only that and the. Room, with all the other students around them like. Super. Disruptive Paul and I are pretty sure. He is the English teacher because it's like, why else would he be in there? Speaks a lot of English. Yeah. Okay. I wasn't sure about that. I don't know maybe it's just me I had a gym teacher in high school that one time just came into my history class sat down with a plate of. Chicken wings. It's all we watched like a history movie and into. Power Move So. I just assume. All. No one I just assume all gym teachers and coaches are just super weird. Do whatever they want. Yeah I he's so yeah. Also is that he speaks English like I love all of his Lakefront in English verbiage and stuff. So. Smile says Like Ping Pong in English vocabulary the same to me they're both just stuff to kill time until I die who? Miles I love that smile doesn't care about anything. He's very apathetic supposedly. And then It's a different time and PETCO is asking smile if he likes peanuts or Caramel and he's like, I like Caramel and then Petco was like, right? It's just common sense who likes peanuts. and then coach comes in and he smile inning. Oh. Oh my God. WHO SAYS BAGA? Does have his hamburger. Order. He teaches them how to pronounce Burger correct elite. Also teach the northeast how to pronounce it correctly. The heaviest like ours sound it's so funny. Bird. Burger. and. Then he's like, hey, smile well, scheme moto that's his real name not his nickname he's like, hey, kit you can't eat that anymore. I'm GonNa make your meals every day from now on because you need to eat healthy. And then he shows him his lunch. It looks great. He made him a little Bento. The Love Yup and Pecos like man that's love. Love. So we're yeah, and then he's like in the staff room and another teacher because comes up to him and he's like, Hey, seemed to be in a good mood and he's like spring has come for this old man. is so weird. He's just in love with his best player at. This is a Yuri on ice. and. He like even will like he's leaving letters in. Smile. Little notes what you think about. And he's he's really giving smile. So like tough love in his training, he liked yells at him constantly while they're trading together and we see petco telling his the clubmates like, oh, smile hates being yelled at like this is not going to end well for the coach essentially. Who Does love? Some people but few. Yeah. I feel like especially with sports teams, it's like sometimes the coaches just like that. Just astles. So smile gets tired of it. He just traded believes he just walks out and PETCO goes with him and they go for a walk I. Feel like I feel like with a kid who just says I'm waiting to die you can't move much by yelling out more. Threatening. I've already accepted at sixteen. What else can you do to? Every subject is just me twiddling my thumbs. Find anything else to do with my time Believe me I am not tied to this. And while they're on their walk. Smile talks about how everything makes him tired now being around people. Even. Pay Pong getting complicated suits it kind of hits. It's like Oh, boy, the child is depressed. Clearly, just clinical depression. He's like what what is this emptiness dude? A talk. To anyone. And they're sitting and looking out into the sea and PETCO is like, Hey, you know I think the coaches training you in the right way you need to be trained and smile like but like I just WanNa have fun like I don't care about winning it's not important to me. And then back at practice, we see a stranger his name is Khazanah and he is from Cayo. Academy Awards. Limit Very. Large Very. Bald. Very hairless eyebrows zero I. All Muscle. The shaved them off speed. And everyone is whispering being like, oh my God he's like the best player around. And he wants to observe and coach asked him to go outside with him and they go out and coaches like smile isn't here like I know that he's who you're here to see. and Causa says, he watched him play and he was very impressed. But he lost to someone named Sakuma Tacoma Sorry and Sokha actually goes to Cairo Academy now. we find out later that soccer PETCO and smile they all trained at the same Dojo and coach asks him what the chances are of smile beating Cosma in Cosmo's like none I will be this boy. And then we see PETCO and smile again and PETCO is talking about how he wants to be the Best Ping Pong player number one in the world it's his dream losing is no fun. So he and smile are very different when it comes to ping pong and smile just like, wow, what a cool line I'll root for you. Not. My note here is he just wants PETCO to win. He loves him so much. And There's also a funny moment with like sitting on some steps and a woman is eating a sandwich and a bird flies down and takes it from her. Look Funny Creek. Science birds will steal your food outside. and smile were back with the with the training. Smile ask coach why he's trained differently coach says because he's different from everyone else and they do a to table training session they set tables up next to each other and coaches just hitting ping pong balls across both tables and smile falls down while he's going for a ball and he gets really upset and he's like us like awards and trophies aren't worth all of this and coach says. There are some views you can only see once you reach the top. Smile doesn't care. He just wants to have a good time. And that coach challenge to a match, and he says, if you win, you don't have to train with me anymore if I win, you get to be my dog riffraff or Yup. We across our furry at this point right Oh just. Talk here. The literal barking. And then people in the club are like, oh my gosh like. Really expect to win against smile like he's really good and everyone was like well yeah. But so was coach back in the day like he was like a World Class Ping Pong player. And they start playing coach is like really aggressive with smile because he knows that when people are aggressive with him, he gets scared and like upset. Anxious essentially. And writing this. Made me emotional he Essentially, through this match, he wants to teach smile not to accept defeat like he has to feel the negative emotions of loss and not feel indifferent because at this point like that's part of his issue is that he's just not feeling anything and coaches like really going at this game and he's winning. An smile retreats back into the locker in his mind. But someone is coming. and smile loses the first match and then he chance the hero appears three times, which is what he's supposed to do if he's ever in a bind. An PETCO is like a smile hasn't changed. He's still soft. A week and then the second game and the match starts and coaches being aggressive and like goading him really like just constantly constantly yelling shit him and smile is getting more and more upset. And this like. He is like thinking like, why? Why do people do this to me like I don't get angry I don't laugh I'm just here. People have nothing to make fun of me for your constantly made fun of I'm a neutral ball of clay and I wish to be treated as such. This dumb Klay Dome Round shape no points at it all what a fucking idiot. And this time when the locker opens, there's a robot because smile is a robot if that's what everybody calls him then that's what he's GonNa be. and. He's kind reached his breaking breaking point and he tells the coach to shut up and he gets really aggressive with his playing and while the game goes on, we see like they do a lot of split screen stuff in the show and so at one part of the screen, we see the match going on and then another part of the screen there's a flashback of pecker teaching. Smile how to hold a paddle well, there when they were little and then coach falls down and he's dizzy and smile is like, are you going to get up? Do you do see food on here dam and then a coaches like okay I'm I'm getting back getting back up and then. The game goes on and a smile hits the winning return. He asks himself can I be like you? Oh, my God I love them. There's a flashback of him asking Petco when they were little kids if he can be like him, I'm GonNa cry I, love it to win. He wants to win. He wants to be like PETCO so bad. and Smile wins the and he's just like well, I'm leaving even though the teacher straight up painted. On the ground as far as he knows. It's going. To be like fifty five years younger than I'm like yes. So yeah, we pick up in episode three with a smile visiting coach on his deathbed. Kamara goes to visit the coach and his wife is there like oh? Need you come up to visit and she's like? No I can't be a human with people and. Runs away. No emotions. Thank you. I would rather die than dinner with a friend I'M A IF I. Almost put a guy in a hospital and in his website. Yeah. WanNa have dinner with just I. Know I'm good I try. To. Fair. So we see cosma back at rival. School Cayo. And discussing how one of these days going to recruit smile and get them on the team because he has so much potential is just wasting it at this peasants school for average children. If you're not a ping pong war year, you might as well die. The. School also at a statue of a Ping Pong player outside of the school and I was like. WHOA. What is So. We see they are going to their first championship tournament and We see that smile is playing the the elite Chinese player Wangi and his third round and pay co is facing an old opponent old friend from their childhood do Joe Days. But. But they're both grown up when they butt heads and they're like I'm gonNA. Kick your ass. No, I'm GONNA kick the. So they Okay so I need to say winky. Is A. He's Zuko okay. Let's just say. He's Zuko. His honor is definitely on the line. Yeah, we get his backstory but since since we're talking about him now I will we gotta say, yeah, he's he's disgraced kicked off the Chinese national team and he's only welcome back if he can be all of Japan. Truly You've get your honor back when you find the Avatar. Surprisingly also voiced by Dante Bosco Weird. Strange. Know he knew Chinese. And also has a coach that is. Hostile. We needs to be but also, very friendly. So Yeah we see. Is. Like all these pathetic excuses for ping pong players I'm going to be so bored here but but as Walken. Walking through the crowd he passes smile he's like Oh the the glasses boy from the gym the other day maybe there will be the challenge here. I Ha. My attention. While walk, Spanish like me how it hello and when it's was like, Oh, you sort of a bit. Yeah. Because he knew smile new heels looking because he wanted to challenge them that dad the gym he's humor. Shit. So. KONTA. My walks up to smile in their team. He's like, Hey, mine defy sit here and chat with the CIA. and. He's Eve since with them and they're talking about their strategies and watching one gaze first match. Their sort of going back and forth like dissecting has play style but also his backstory of being disgraced in needing to earn his honor back. And COSMA basically is like, Hey, you're a good ping pong player but if fucking sucks that you always consider the opponent and you don't want to hurt their feelings. So you give up and don't try. So you don't hurt that PICCO. Ten Ten. He's like you're doing no one any favours and just very bluntly that sucks for everyone you're wasting everyone's time. And for one smiles like out. So after getting that slap in the face. Smile goes and prepares for his first match is talking to the coach is like all right the when Gabi his first guy in ten minutes I'll do it in five. Tell me how many points I need to win by fucking whatever I don't care. I'm in robot mode I'M GONNA I'm GonNA, wipe the floor with this. Guy and we need that fierce opponent and it's just a very chill senior. He's like I'm just here to have fun I don't WanNa lose to a first year but. We'll take a nice and easy and immediately he sees off fuck this guy's just as I can and. So he absolutely destroys the senior, the senior just mentally checks out he's like. In my mind. I'm at the beach. I don't give a shit just get it over with this guy is like my favorite character. Like. He comes back every once in a while we'll check with this Dan Dan Looking motherfucker. Story I did enjoy her all right. I'll try I'll give us an after like the third one it's done. That's if I was I'd I'd be the same place. I've I've done a wrestling tournaments at things like this with like the same setup and like. Every once in a while. You would step up and be like, Oh this guy is the same way as me but all muscle instead of data. Okay. Good, match. CANS to start but no, this will be thirty seconds. Of But yes. So he just straight up clowns on them and he wins. And, after the victory he like loudly goes over is like. Yeah, I don't give a shit Cuz. Basing your whole life on. Ping. Pong. fucking. Stupid. Says it in front of the Cayo Team and COSMAS like? Interesting play. On the best one here and I, fucking hate it we gotta do. This is a dumb game for baby. So, we see a win gay he's a he was watching the match. Smile like his like actual play styles he's like I'm still intrigued he. Handily, beat this guy but didn't go with his like chopper style I dunno ping pong logistics choppers something chabot doctoring. Yeah. Oh He's playing healer position. Wage. So. He's like, okay I gotta just beat the next Guy I'm then I'm up for real challenge and we see his opponent is just like at a high school sweethearts the the the guys of. Is Like I'm about to get my ass kicked by the Chinese champion and his girlfriend's like no sweetie, the power of love will take. You you'll can stand up to him and just gets destroyed. She's like Oh Falk. What's his phone number? Bring on player. So with that. When gay is Up Next to face. Smile. So smile before the matches talking with PETCO, he's talking about. The. Hero that will come to save him and sort of goes into his mental dynamic with that I'll be honest went over my head a little bit some of his internal stuff I feel like at this point I was like, okay. Yeah. It already look at I'm sure it will get. Fully, spelled out later. Yeah. As as the series goes on goes on, it becomes a much more clear dodgy but yeah. So basically, he's like me sometimes I get a save myself. So we finally get to win games and smiles match but smile is just humming. BIDDIES. Just in the zone, it seems like but when gays like all right time to go to work if I finally have a challenge but easily wins the first game and is like a but but he was so good earlier, but you were the one. We were all rooting for you. You were supposed to be the challenge. But after the first game smiles like no beginning. No biggie. Still Helmand just in the zone and just goes on and destroys the next game because he. Basically through the first match. So he could get a read on one gay and all of his mood. So he finally has the move settings like okay. I know how to be you and goes into robot mode I liked that he sings his own theme Song Yom Tov Salfan. Just reminded me of Cronk from. Emperor's new, groove His own. The. But yeah. So he's about to he kicks his ass for route or smile kicks his ass in round two and go into the third match. But. He sees when gay get burned aided by his coach because for the first time, he's actually losing. So the dynamic of one gay being like, no, this is child's play out need to actually try and the coach being like, please take the seriously they're paying you money to be here. Please can you just try where? My career is our writing on this team. please. And we finally actually see him in like okay coach. Okay. I I'm just at this point. and seeing him get berated smile. Fat Damn empathy comes in. That that terrible thing to have if you're in the high stakes world of Pong. And he throws the rest of the game. So he's he's out and Basically, everyone can tell including Wednesday. So he's like off talk. Naturally beat them those kid took fucking pity on me what the hell. He's a robot that calculates emotions into the equation. But yeah that's episode to. Then, we start off with episode four. Oh three. Oh we watch. It's too in my heart, which makes it very confusing when I discuss it with anyone else. So we opened with upset four and if we see smile as a kid and the dojo learning ping pong, it's a little kid and another kid slapped across the face San your phone for spins shot. You know you're blowing it. You're you're an idiot. He shouldn't have phone for that. An impeccable comes in kind defensive being like, Hey, layoff. And we find out the little the little shit with glasses and smack them around I wrote it down to Sokoto soccer soccer. It's it matters because his nickname is Arkham, which means deem so okay. 'cause I wrote down for a lot of it and then when I looked up the characters name Osaka Saccomano, I was like I swear that's not what they're saying yeah. Okay. They call him that makes more sense now. So it was a little flashback of the three of them. When were kids playing Ping Pong together And cuts back to after tournament, and the coach slaps Smiley face to 'cause. He's just got that face you love to hit. So. Slap -able this high school boy when you're an adult. And slashed across the face like that's for losing the match and losing match like that's bad for everyone it's bad for you. It's bad for your opponents bad for everyone that's watching and got invested in it goes clear he threw it and he says They kind of bicker bit back and forth for a while and he says, either try to win or you quit. Other options. That's miles like all right cool. I quit see you. Finally in out. Three. Young. Coach. He told you that day one that he does not give. You don't give them that option he'll take it. Any chance gets. Off Camera, Pekka Urnov behind him Pecos walking away talking about winning and a winning the best feeling for him and it's the only thing that matter. So he can't relate to smile in that regard. Let me see lady Tara who was the lady who owns the Dojo that all played when their kids that she's kind they're given to crap apparently, they were old. Teammates are old rivals and like they played together back in the day. Yeah. So she's kind of given coach crap of like you know that's not gonNA, work on him like you know berating him is not going to motivate him to be good at it anymore. So like slapping around and degrading them in front of everyone else's not helping anyone and like yeah. Yeah, it's just Not, wrong. We cut to win days get chewed out by his coach. Kind of saying like focused got get ready and Wednesdays realizing don't self like. Smile lost purpose kitchen like now you did you beat them like you need to keep that. Momentum Golfer in the next match because you've got that coming up. And meanwhile, we see PETCO getting ready for. His match against. Sarcoma WHO'S Coach Amee who I think is required that everyone shaves her heads because everyone bald and that's weird bald I. Don't do they ever talk about it. They do in episode three when they get to the tournament, they're like, oh. fucking grom domes over there good law. there. 'cause dynamic I. Guess. It's really for the speed I. It's real bizarre. On. That he can best. But. Yeah. They're on the whole team has shaved heads and it's just like, wow, that like I don't know if it's a timid dating royal look. Sure. It's suits some better than others some being. Causa that's like it. Yeah. Everyone. Else's us. Because yeah. They're still in high school. There's kids except for looks like a freak except who is a grown ass adults and even some of the kids like. Talking about like that Dude's definitely thirty. I definitely knew people like that. We're like Oh. That's not a teacher does a student my mistake So, yeah. Pick is getting ready for his match and I just before match they exchanged paddles to make sure they're both official valid or just to get an idea of how the paddles going to come into play. That surprise me I didn't think that would make as much of a difference. Pong but. Talk about they talk about the differences between paddles like the rubbers and stuff. Like a lot of detail about the robbers and stuff and I'm like I, I would not imagine a thousand years that I'm sure it affected it. But I didn't think it would matter that much where you have to inspect the other players paddle before a game. So I also know nothing about Ping Pong so. That doesn't surprise me and Yeah Sacramento says. He's been looking forward to this rematch for years 'cause back in the DOJ. Oh, everyone looked paco because he was the best around one and they always have to follow behind him and they're doing everything he did and the pedal was Kinda gave him shit for learning about Ping Pong from a book instead of like. Soccer mom tried to learn any way. He could. We're just kind of got it naturally and just learn from playing. So he always gave Sophomore Shit for that and then. They start having their match and Before Sakamoto surprise packages, paddles, the same he's always used and soccer comments like Oh. Yeah. It's the ping pong is always changing. It's always evolving you have to keep up with it. So that's why he's got like the newest I guess you know. I don't WanNa say hi, Tech Ping, ping-pong panel? Sounds. Insane. Like. The latest technique ideas earliest style. Hit Ball. That just made me think of spongebob whereas the SPATULA. With Port and starboard attached. That So. We see them having their match for a bad and they're going back for for a while. Pecos kind of egging him on the whole time like come on. Let's do a speed match like we used to do back in the day. Let's go. Let's get into this and. The whole time smiles there watching him as well judging from the sidelines and every time Pekka launches like a fastball sock keeps popping it way up launching way over the table kind of like a lob shot where it's falling very champion an easy shot to hit back for PETCO and he just keeps doing this as he's doing get further and further away from the table. Tech is hitting so hard he's getting so aggressive with shots and. As he's doing it. PETCO ends up winning the first two rounds but we see Pecos exhausted and sock most fine because he was just doing those returns, we'll pet goes running around putting all his effort into the shots. So sock emotions draining as energy the whole time. This is how I found out. I was getting into the show because when he was doing like on his second lob, he starring amount he started. It's simple strategy packer. Why don't you see it? How can you see how can I see any Nazi? Really. Invested. Blinded by Staal something we never do on this show. No never what are we watching digital? Polls here I got someone back me up this time. Moving on moving. So we see Sarcoma. Did the ball and they reset for the second match. Sakamoto's like perfect will find. It was just sweating like how winded and it's clear. This arguments like the game evolving you to pay attention it's just not e can't be good when you're a child, it'd be forever you have to evolve with it but. Of is very much the gifted child trope. Stunted growth because he was good when it's little and thought, he was the best and After that, we see the next two matches soccer just kind of breezy the room and you get a lot of shots pass Paco that wouldn't have happened in the first round. But now all I energy, it's a lot easier and sarcomas very smug about which I mean to be very random like a book and knew what to do. So I guess he kinda deserves to be smoke it works. So he taught a lesson, the hard way and. We see. Because PETCO had the natural talent from as a kid sock Mo- always had to work hard. So he always developed strategy and technique every time, and that's what overcame raw talent. We see that trip a lot in sports. So and then we see the Pacos, pissed off loses gets very emotional anytime loses and it comes to the lady Tom Ru. Tomor talking to coach about the old days seeing you know the bad habits remembering all the bad habits they had back when their players because kind says like, yeah. kind of see again, all these new players. Despite the stuff that changes over the years the. Players are going to kind of revert to the same bad habits over and over again. The freeze people will tell smile that's a bad habit get into a lot like. Just with the first few says I've we probably here at like five or six times so really enforcing like, Hey, don't don't get set in your ways when playing a sport. and. Then we see. They talked about how talented smile as it doesn't care about winning in the coach talks about how he wants to shoe smile options he has if he wins like just so he just so he could see the options he doesn't want foursome into any of them, but he just wants to show him that there. Tomor calls him out. That's not a year bullshit. That's bullshit. Don't don't give me that don't excuse your behavior. and. Then we cut to Cosma in the bathroom doing some sort of weird pre game ritual. We'll really see what it is but The toilet paper was folded into a flower shape. I think he likes he just he likes to be by himself before he plays okay. And then we. got the, other players talking about how tense tie academy isn't how strict their team is saying like you lose if you don't get to the third round of tournament, you're automatically takeoff team or something like that. So real hardcore cooper. Kai Ping, Pong. Cobra Kai. Plan. And we did to the corner final quarterfinal match between gain COSMA. It's like Oh shit he up. The to elites that smiles rivals. So we see that play against each other and when gays talking to coach. For once he kinda seems nervous because you know he's beating down everyone else all the time. Now he's like I I only want against smile because he lost on purpose. So if this guy's better than him up. Trouble and then we see. Lawsuits than we see some crazy sequences of them. Starting. Their first match cosmic hitting the ball back and it just every time he has a bag it's going faster and faster turning into lightning eventually the lightning more to try again, which was barely his nickname in ping pong dragon of coyotes. Every character has like a thing that represents them. For long AIDS, a plane, and then for him, it's a dragon. Okay PETCO and. and Smile are star in a mood. is just like a demon. A Little Ole, sneaky little shitty demon. Look. Like. He's like the little demon from What's it called disenchanted I was called. That, now it's on Netflix. Like a big tannock demon like it's what else speaking in like an M. via. So that's like the symbolism of like the Dragon and the airplane and stuff like Jacques, Cousteau members, but with Ping Pong. Interesting to watch and I can get how if you've been getting with big book but it's like at the end of the still pink on like this feels a little silly. But. So we see one gaelic freaking out as he's playing Reminding of chant lose he got kicked off the team in China that's why he's in Japan he can't go back. So he's got to do better and Cosmo just is not having it and we see different shots, cosmetic morphing and changing. Because we didn't really talk about the animations all we talked about the very beginning the animation style with this. Really reminds me of like Verte scope but it's not but it's definitely has that feeling to it because the lines We see a lot of animation. A lot of stuff is either reused or in some shots anything that isn't crucial to the plot will stay stationary and not move and the stuff that needs to move does but this is the opposite were every line moves even if it's not necessary. So there's Waigel Style and it's a lot of detail. We see every territories lips and we see characters knows which we don't see in a lot of anime and just like the sluice line work of like COSMAS body morphing in the battle or in the match against Wang. Really allows itself to highlight the motion foot the characters, and with constantly moving it allows them to be a lot more expressive with rather than like grounded in reality like he doesn't actually some in a lightning dryden but like the style really aides to them and yeah, really remind me of. The heavy line work shadows up. Remind me a lot of hell boy. And then it also running very specifically of the breaking the habit music video by Park. Very. Specific. But it really reminded me that that's what God man like. As soon as I saw I'm into the show already just by the style. So it really helps with sports. Emmy like we talked about with high Q., which is very traditional anime style I. Think this leads itself a lot better to showing the motion in motion versus weird pseudo stationary. Shot of motion. So I really liked it is very unique. Very cool. Yeah. Lends itself very well to a sports show, and then we see Wanggai's freak out and every time he tries to come back cosmic just keeps shooting down over and over and over and in the end cosmo wins, which isn't too surprising. 'cause he lost a smile. So and then we see a cosmic fighting facing dense. Of, losing the name names soccer in the quarter. Yeah. In the semifinals and then we see we don't see the matches but we just see the two people are playing in each match for like the other semifinal matches in. The final matches and we ended up seeing like. Every one of the top five players the. Winner and the semi finals in the quarterfinals they were all Cayo Academy students. They're all playing against themselves, but they're all insane team. So there it's not just COSMO's good sock Moses good like the whole team is go. To the top so she's legit. Come back to the Be was this the beach with Wang and his coach or is just like a park? Oh, there's a sitting outside. The dirt was either like Yellow yellow-rose Sandy I wasn't sure and then we got the one guy at the beach earlier. but yeah, it's just waiting day sitting on the. Bench with his coach as looking at a lock that his mom gave him of him when he was a little kid winning I, Ping Pong tournament with a metal or something and said he's always had. Gave to tone before when he moved away coach. Leo Wednesday move away from your mom and he's like when I was eight got on the provisional team like Shit. Like. He said his mom would bring him snacks on the weekends. so He'd still see her but like he was living sort of dormitory or something at eight years old like, yeah. That's brewery like. Like you think a character is like a bad guy quote unquote. But then like you, you get to know like every single one of these characters and there's always something like this where you're just like Oh. Ouch. There's rarely character who's just a deplorable asshole for the sake of being a deplorable hassle. Usually everyone's got some sort of origin or history. You know the molded them into that player they are. Yeah. Like I said this characters, Zuko. And then sister comes out and she starts shooting Lightning Ping Pong. Balls. And his coach tells Wanggai's like Nah. That's okay. Your Life's beginning. Now you're just starting his what are you talking about I lost tournament kicked out of the Chinese national team he's. Big Peng's Don Tilden's done, but your life is starting now. It's not everything you're very young year in high school. You're still a minor. Don't have your life figured out. Yeah. After, the tournament COSMO pull smile side to talk to them a bit before leaving and he's got. got. Teammates useless like if they can't get all the way like you know what was the point of having the teammates they aren't going to challenge stop. He's like you know what? That's like right? Smile. Here, come to a coyote. We are steadily our equipment the school was founded by. Ping Star those the statue. They got all the best technology like high-grade. Robert you get paid for each of your paddles like it'd be customized for you and their scientists there to study the airflow in your personal like so much fucking detail like bigger than professional sports teams like it's for someone who accidentally cares it would be great but is. This is smart. He does not care. So yeah he's like want to come coyote. See you next time and just. Very, dismissive I. Tuned out the second you start talking about your school. I did not pay attention to any of that. You Said Ping. Pong and I stopped listening I shut down. And we see. Yeah it was really weird seeing all this stuff that I had a special with everyone in the matching tracksuits and the shaved heads and I was like this is some like underground science experiments Shit like you would find in a vault and fall out into some thousand titles like what happens on clones you leave us like because they're all shaved as we all look the same so. This is Gary loves being. So. Just like really threw me off. And we see the Coyote Kademi coach parading everyone just like, Hey, five guys got the opposition the tournament. That's not good enough. You all have to win. It's like what? Can. Ball. I don't know why he is. So I was like I. Think they ought did the best that we saw all did the best I don't know why so upset. And we see. Throughout this whole episode we saw. It was clearly a woman in a big trench coat and like a big hat sunglasses trying to hide her density while she's watching the game and cosmonaut circle time. and. When the coaches parading everyone, we see a woman with red hair fly up a corvette. And she's even anything she just shows up. COSMO walks over and the coach was like Yes. My daughter and my gives the whole exposition for her but she never talks. But yes. So constable rides off with her by back from the champion from. Yeah. The Tournament and she's the coach's daughter. But that the she's cousins with Kuzma. And then. There was like a then her dad's the president or like they're related to the tank kind of got lost here with. Her Dad is a coach, right? Yeah. So her dad is that Guy Code and then she is also somehow related to the president of the academy. He's a he's her grandfather. Yeah. Okay. So he the coaches, the is the. President of the Cami Song Yeah. Okay. Okay. And Yeah he's like. COSMO with her their cousins and in some of the team Israel. Really. Well that Are Right that technically. Questionable. After I wasn't sure if it was like the anime like Oh we're cousins wink wink or like our family friends but we just call each other because this they're literally cousins. Okay. So we'll see where that goes. and. So he rides off and the coach search parading the. Other teammates being like all right. When we get back, you're doing drills and all this other shit. And then we see smile heads home and then we see PETCO sitting on the steps of the tournament crying as he does because he lost having a little silent cry. Yeah That's pursued for. Yeah. Yeah. So how how are we feeling about? Ping Pong the animation I there. Yeah I was scared seeing the art. As. Art this ugly to be ugly. But like once we saw the leg images in motion and. We didn't really touch on, but the opening is true. Bop. Yeah as soon as I started watching it like I was like Oh Dugan is GonNa like this opening. Your Cool like pop punky kind of feel. Yeah. Wanted me like Tony Hawk video like I'd hear that Tony Game. Yeah, it was just like very. Like raw punk. But saying about Pingpong. Like the visuals definitely worked once I saw it in motion and not just still images aren't that fun to look at but. Yeah, it's definitely fun. I'm I'm interested because I thought well, since I saw the Zuko comparison. I'm sure they'll be friends at some point, but then to immediately go so fuck Ping Pong, what do you? What do you want with your life? Let's. We're in a different country we can explore. We are as that sounds great. I was like Oh interesting. Okay. Let's see. But yeah I I like this. Yeah. Yeah. This it's definitely like it's it's a sports ama about ping pong but and ping pong is just the vessel for like really cool like coming of age stories. All sports animated. So it's the can get to the nitty gritty about. Techniques in. Different move sets within the sports itself, but it was always it's always a metaphor for like the growth of the characters and stuff. That we see attached to. This I think this gets to be about. About Ping Pong a little less as it goes on. It like changes up over it feels different something else yeah. It's not just. Doesn't get smile really down a dark path and start cutting up rubber from the paddles and started Bali or something. I also think that's what's good about the anime to is it's only eleven episodes like you can actually just I mean I'm not saying you should but you can't. You can watch it just in one sitting which I tend to do. Yes. We've made the sorry. Says it's it's Felix like the perfect size for what the whole story like it doesn't feel too long. It doesn't feel too short. Yeah. We've made the comparison with high Q. and I know. Like season three of high Q. I think eleven or twelve episodes, and that's one volleyball match. So. Pong is definitely we got a story to tell her that you're going to sit on it and milk the one match for ever. Good to see. Yeah. I will never do this again, but I will like beg you guys to keep watching this I know brandon probably will but do. Not Reach this show so bad you are literally over a third of the way through. It hasn't stopped me. That means nothing to him but like the like this is I keep talking about how good it is and you know it's a really good show. So I'll say another thing episode five has like some of the best voice acting I've ever heard in an anime. Like there's there's just a moment where the first time I saw it just struck me where I was like Holy Shit like this doesn't feel like an anime like it feels like a real kid you know what? I mean interest. So yeah I, I mean, the voice acting is really good in the show anyway and it feels but that's like it feels very naturalistic post to other anime in the first place. So I think that's reflected in the acting. It's not stiff of like US smile the Rhodesia's welcome to the tournament. Chan not very rehearsed. theat I I. Love this show me to. Oh. I got a Lotta animatrix vibes from the style the styles. Yeah. It's like I very much enjoy the style like even though it is what one would consider ugly but it's also I see a lot of people also on twitter will grab like smear frames from show me look look ugly artists. Yeah. It's a fucking smear frame. It's animation is not supposed to be screened shot like that. So it like it is. In motion to really appreciate the style in why they chose it. Yeah like wait until you get to a like high intensity dramatic match rather than like Oh they're walking upstairs and it looks a little Janke at like, no, just wait until it's in its element. Exactly. Yeah. Give it time to grow. Don't judge by the first three episodes. Ono. The thing as I sharing your year shows your favorite. Aloe Sharon my ping-pong. My tiny little balls your tiny little. Think. We can title pause tiny little balls. We, try for a title. Walk. So next week. Yeah we will. We have gone I. Feel like I choose a rough one with bleach earlier. I thought you were saying all right I'm hearing up it's, GonNa be. It's bleached to now. And then we had the unexpected the sleeper hit that everyone loved Bachan now. So I feel like we could kind of use a wind down. I knew I knew ping-pong was going to be a good one but I was also going to be higher energy. Figure next week when a wind down. Simple countryside about class blower and his dog. The caveat is the dog is the protagonist. So we're going to be watching the first three of lovely mood. There's like, oh So you have to like I feel like this is the anime we've been waiting for. This. It's a little Shiba inu that's just exploring a mountainside with her owner. It's we say the hero Pierce three times. Here it is. The Dog. Well Listener. If there's a show you like to watch, you can send your recommendations to us. Our e mail is very edge email dot com or you can reach out to us on twitter and instagram. 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Birds Of A Feather Flock Together For Pigeons Playing Ping Pong

World Cafe

27:15 min | 11 months ago

Birds Of A Feather Flock Together For Pigeons Playing Ping Pong

"You're listening to a world cafe. My name is Rena Doris a while back the band pigeons. Playing Ping Pong came into play his show for a live audience at World Cafe. The performance started at noon on a weekday. But it felt like a weekend music festival. Fans showed up in tie-dye full-body jumpsuits. There was a guy dressed as a wizard and they were excited. They were feeling those fans the ones who go to every pigeons playing ping pong show. There called the flock and for about a decade now. The flock has been getting bigger and bigger as the band is toured relentlessly their fifth album presto works to capture their fun. Funky psychedelic live show and today pigeons playing ping pong singer Greg or Mont and drummer. Alex Petropolis join me to talk about that record. I though you should really hear them live so here. They are recorded. Live at World Cafe in front of an audience of a wizards UNICORNS and human shaped bursts of Glitter. This is pigeons playing ping pong with King. Kong Y Y Y Y dialer walk when anti come talk. Talk a look. Took war off not and Birmingham two zero album. Don You just heard King Kong from pigeons Playing Ping Pong. They perform that live for world cafe from the new album presto. I am joined now in the World Kathy Studio by Greg or MoD. Who's the singer and guitarist from pigeons? Playing Ping Pong? Hi Greg. Hey how's it going pretty good? And I'm joined by Alex Petropolis who plays drums for pigeons playing ping pong. Hello World Correction. He rips the drums. That's true first of all congrats on the new album. Thank you yeah. I mean number five. It's pretty wild You know you have the new. You're known really also for your live show. I have to say it is really something. The World Cafe Stage the studio. It's an dark baseman. And you guys made it feel like a sunny afternoon at a music festival in there when you go into doing a show. Is that something you're consciously thinking about creating that sort of environment? How do you do it? Well you know I think each show depends on when you're playing where you're playing. You know what you know who's there. What's the audience and we really try to keep that in? Mind when we're putting our settlers together no matter for playing at noon at a radio station or if we're playing at late night at a huge music festival we're going to give it like a thousand percent full steam ahead and try transcend the time of Day. A little bit now great. Could you talk a bit about? What goes into crafting a set list? When you're getting ready for show yeah a lot actually You know we try to create a kind of magical musical carpet ride If you will where there's lots of peaks and valleys sometimes. Some of our jams. Get really heavy and dark and PSYCHEDELIC and Funky. And sometimes if that's going on for a certain amount of time. We want to give the audience a little respite and come back with something. A little more bubbly digestible and Fun and light. So it's kind of a mix of sunshine and darkness where the roller coaster goes up. And you build the tension and then it goes zooming down and after the thrill of that you need a little second to chill out so we like to try to picture our shows kind of like a big you know musical wave but at the same time you spend your time setting up. The settlers archetypes. Jeremy spends a lot of time setting it up and then you walk out on stage and sometimes the crowd just different energy and you thought it was noon at a radio station next thing you know it feels like ten thirty PM at one of our concerts and you open up the jams a little bit you dig in a little harder and you feed off of them so if that happens you just change up the list do you like will you stick to the thing you've written down you. Just go for it. Go for it for sure. It really is a give and take with our crowd and it's very fluid and that's kind of you know the jam world that we live in is is very open a lot of. Improv. And we're very often you know jamming in the middle of a song and one of our concerts and look over each other and just kinda mouth a different song like let's transition out and let's let's change it up. This is world cafe. I'm Ranarriddh talking to Greg and Alex from pigeons Playing Ping Pong. When you do hit something while you're improvising. That really blows your mind. You can tell it blows the audience's mind something that comes up spontaneously. Do you ever want to recreate that in another show? How do you hold onto that magic? If it's improvised Y- that's a good point. That's a good question. I mean there are those moments where the unplanned feels like. It's planned and it's a really exciting feeling and a lot of our songs have kind of. Come out of that another thing. That's cool. Is that we record our shows but we also record all of our practices so we you know we record them. We throw into Google drive and we can go bike if we're doing extended jams and practice just for fun and we stumble on something. We actually can go back and listen to it and be like that was fun in the moment but was that good at all you know and go back and listen to it and if if feels right then we flesh that out A perfect example. Yes so practice was ending We were jamming for four plus hours and some of us were like all right. I think I'm ready to go home for today. And not everyone was actually didn't WanNa stop playing so our basis is based off and I was like. Oh man so I slapped on the watt and I went bow. Bow Bow bound bound bound. Just a simple little energetic. I don't WanNA leave but I'm not gonNA SAY IT. I'M GONNA play it. And the basis just like looked up zero like perked and he put it before setting his guitar down he put it back on and we started just ripping into this aggressive funk song which you just play it it's it was King Kong as we're playing and I'm like okay. This is a really fix on. This has got a lot of balls if I can say that on the radio like what has a lot of what is powerful. What is like energetic? That camp like a force that can't be reckoned with so I screamed king and and just filled in the rest and what rhymes with King Kong Ping Pong Ding Dong. And that's where like people are like. Is there a lot of content and your lyrics and sometimes it is? But sometimes it's improvised and just rhymes. Let's hear a little bit of King Kong. We we played before. Let's hear a bit of King Kong right now and that and that baseline to get an idea of what you're talking about there. I want came from pigeons. Playing Ping Pong talking to you greg and Alex from pigeons Playing Ping Pong but their new album presto. You call yourselves High Energy Psychedelic funk. But a lot of people you may be under the jam band umbrella. How do you guys feel about that labeled jam band I mean? I don't really think jam bands of music as more of just kind of a community of of of music in a sense because I mean there's so many bands and the James Encompass so many different types of music. I mean we were more of kind of that that psychedelic funky upbeat dance. Rhythm and then you have bands like consider the source who are intense progressive metal. And then you have bands like talk. That are kind of. Cool rock fusion. I can understand like the jam because it's typically a band that I mean if you WanNa take a super literal the band that jams and utilize a lot of Improv Yeah Yeah for some reason in certain circles. Jam Band almost seems like a dirty word. You like you kind of think of just. I don't know it's stereotypical connotation that people go to but like Alex it's really just the band's improvise and bands who feed off the crowd and after a while I stopped calling ourselves a jam band I never really did but people would and I said No. We're an energy band. We're a band that feeds off the crowd where a band that is not tied to a set list. What people don't realize when when they think of jam bands they think just like one chord noodling and and you know? There's no focused but for us. You know we work around the clock on our crafts personally and as a band to write good songs and what happens is often in one section of a well-crafted song it's open and that's when the crowd can kinda dictate which direction it's going to go until you close this on and that's kind of Maybe that's why people who are maybe more pop minded or you know more straightforward with their music selection. Don't give it a chance because they don't think that there's actual content in jam bands when I feel like we're writing better songs every time. And that's all you can do all. We want our songs to get better in our minds and for our shows to get better every time and and feel that energy. 'cause I think it's also funny. Is that people who look at Jam Band. Kind of a dirty word go to a jam concert or the right one and feel the energy from the band and the crowd and have an unbelievable time. And they're like WHOA. This is actually like a wave that I should maybe try to catch this world cafe. I'm Rena Dora's talking to pigeons Playing Ping Pong. I have the singer and Guitarist Greg and drummer. Alex here with me talking about the new album Presto Going to hear another song from it in just a second and it's one that doesn't have a big sprawling jam and I actually looked it up and it's one of only I think three of your songs that are under four minutes long. So could you tell us a bit about dawn a new day? Yeah Donna new day is is really kind of like the message of the band. I mean where you were all human and not everything is peaches and cream all the time. Sometimes you get down or sometimes life's not going your way and this song is kind of just like uh about a number of different ways positive ways that you can approach those hardships and and get out of it and you know quote Don a new day like some of the lyrics are like listen to some hip hop like just get it out cooke you Baker interbred shop. You can need those troubles away. You can push your troubles into the food and then make something nice and you know you can one lyrics. Are you know on a hilltop? Can you hear a teardrop? You could weep your worries away like just cry like it's okay. Not you're not the no one needs to be a superhero. If you know you're supposed to feel these human emotions and the the good doesn't feel as good without the bad and what's really cool and something that we've been wanting to do for years and finally are working on is. We're starting a foundation called the new day foundation where we'll be partnering with various organizations that speak to us and the first one is perfect for. Donna. New Day the song it's called backline backline dot cares where you can find info on. And it's the music industries hub for mental health and wellness resources. So if you're feeling you know if you're having struggles with that back line is there to have case workers talk with you. There's a bunch of resources on how to positively deal with these tough times. That's a perfect hand in hand for our first partner with the Don Uday Foundation. Let's hear it. This is don a new day. Performed live world cafe by pigeons playing ping pong from their new album presto. This is world cafe the backdrop arena. Bradshaw traveled to win years away. Good success knowledge detail away is awesome. Cloudy Ball ever sausage and everything whatever her could be a saw a think Everything is Got Him past bad taxes. Everything though took him you just heard Don a new day. Pigeons Playing Ping Pong perform that live at world cafe. It's from their new album. Presto there is this whole pigeons playing ping pong sub read it. There are facebook groups. There's all this community around you guys deadheads for the dead. There's a for beyond say you guys have your own group. It is called the flock before and they're pretty dedicated right they share set lists and they share experiences and they make a sound which. I only found out seeing live for the first time when you performed for us. I didn't know there was a sound that went with it. Could you do my making the sound grade. Maybe a little better than I am. Because it's a it's a whole group of the flock but it's a little bit of a Laker pigeons out. It's pretty. It's really something when you hear it and you know not every band. Has this kind of a following. So what do you think it is about your band that inspires that sort of community? Yeah I mean shutout till the Faulk I it's it's gone. It's gone to another level where you know. It's it's more than just the music side of people that are just reaching out just to you know communicate with people find people. They don't have time with it. Keeps us on our toes which is great yeah? The flock really inspires US. Because they're so involved with our music and our set lists and our songwriting that it really is accountability. There we want to take care of our community and they push us to write more songs and create new jams create new moments and have every show different so I think hopefully that trickles down into the crowd. They give us their all. Alex Greg from pigeons Playing Ping Pong have been talking to me here on world cafe. I'm marina thank you guys so much for coming in. Oh thank you for having US thank you. Yeah we had a great time. This was like an unexpected little ranger here takes on a weekday fun. You'll appreciate it more in a moment unrolled cafe.

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Wisdom In Hindsight

TED Radio Hour

52:00 min | 1 year ago

Wisdom In Hindsight

"Hates guy here and before we start the show quick thing a lot of you ask how you can support the Ted Radio Hour and the best way to do that is to support your local public radio station here at NPR. We're launching our annual end of year fundraising campaign and the clock is ticking to get your contributions in so throughout the month. I hope you'll take a little bit of time time to reflect on what this show has meant to you this year and then if it has been something please go to donate dot. NPR DOT org slash. Ted Radio to support your your local station and thanks. This is the Ted Radio Hour each week around breaking Ted talks technology. Entertainment Design Design. Is that really what ten. I've never known the delivered at Ted Conferences around on the world. If the human imagination we've had to believe an impossible thing. The true nature of reality beckons from just beyond those talks those ideas adapted for radio from NPR Garros. I'm so happy to hear your voice again. Go as you're saying I've missed you. Talk to this is the writer Pico. Ir I think you're probably now. This is the third time you're going to be on the show. I think so. Yes really glad I can be platform again. He goes known for his travel writing and for part of the year he lives in Kyoto. I'm actually technically. I'm in suburban Norris of twenty miles from Kyoto and Yes for really the last twenty seven years. I've been spending the majority of my time in this little rented two room apartment in Nara Japan. And it's just a place that you Kinda fell all in love with and that you spoke to you. I guess just spoke to me. I my first day in Japan. I was just on an unwanted layover flying back from in Hong Kong to a New York City whereas living in one thousand nine hundred eighty three. And in the course of that layover. I just walked around the airport turn of narrator near Tokyo gear and at the end of my three hour work I had decided to move to Japan. I felt at home there that very first morning and I still do even now and I I guess after you move to Japan you actually Got Into Ping Pong right added. That happen well. My wife is a very keen enthusiast. WHO's yesterday health clubs and we used to have a health club just across the street from us and she saw that I never move? Basically I kind of lump ish unathletic a creature. But she remembered I'd Played Ping Pong a little boy growing up in England so she invited me to come and look in on the Ping Pong. And within three minutes I was Lost Ping Pong for life much. Pico is not exaggerating he plays Ping Pong just about every day and I think what was interesting for me. Initially really was that. I've never really been engaged with Japanese society. But as soon as I was in the Ping Pong Club. I was part of this group of thirty Japanese. I was the only foreigner and suddenly I. I had to learn how to fit in the two Japanese community. You get to this club you start getting the pingpong long and one of the things about this is that I guess is is it an unofficial kind of rule that it's doubles it's not singles Ping Pong exactly exactly and then we choose a partners by lot so every five minutes were changing partners and part of that is so that nobody loses uses along if you happen to lose with one partner six minutes later. You're winning with another. And when we play sets its best of two so that they would often be no winners loses people very happy for it to end in a one one tie every day when I leave the Ping Pong Club after in an hour and a half of furious exertion. If you asked me did I win or lose. I couldn't tell you I'd probably paid seven games. I couldn't keep count of whether I won or lost because nobody keeps track of. Who's winning the Games? But that stands for what the whole Ping Pong Club is about. which is the sense that everybody anybody should leave? In an equal state of delight in Japan. It's been third. They've created a competitive spirit without competition. Here's PICO IR on the Ted Stage. No all of you know that geopolitics is best followed by watching ping pong all the two strongest powers in the world where fiercest enemies until in one thousand nine hundred seventy two ooh. An American Ping Pong team was allowed to visit Communist China and as soon as the former adversaries were gathered around some small green tables each of them could claim victory and the whole world could breathe more easily through ping pong diplomacy clohessy. What I learned though at my regular games in Japan is more what could be called the inner sport of global domination sometimes known as life as a boy growing up in England? I was taught that the point into the game was to win but in Japan I'm encouraged to believe that really the point of the game is to make as many people as possible around. You feel that they are winners. So you're not careening up and down as an individual might but you're part of regular steady chorus in Japan. A game of ping-pong is really like an act of love. Learning how to play with somebody rather than against her win. Occasionally I come back to this country and I play my English archrival. The only thing I notice is whether I've won lost if you ask me. How has your game today? I won't say I had found no. It was a great game or whatever I might say it was a close game but usually I'll just say Oh beat me eight to three. Oh I B nine two four. Yeah and somehow just by saying that I'm taking all the joy out of it. It's much better to say it was a wonderful game. Wait you you have an English ping pong tribal. I'm sad to say yes and we've been prosecuting. This furious rivalry we even Once played in front of six hundred people in San Francisco Not Delight. I didn't think they want to see to aging English guys flail around on a ping pong table but we enjoyed it. But I would say that my friend friend is fiercely competitive and so it brings out the competitive instinct in myself and that really means that after a game with him. I'm very rarely happy because even if I defeat him all I'm thinking about is next time he's going to get revenge or there's only one thing way to go from here and that's down and of course if I lose to him I'm literally really up all night. replaying how did I miss that forehand slam in the game or whatever. It's radically different in Japan because at least in the context of a club or a community community the most important thing is everybody to be working together and feeling and thinking together and unlinked. And there's a sense in which to think about winning. And losing is to impose a binary system on a world and lives not binary and if I were to ask ask you guy. Have you won or lost in your life. You would probably think of certain things you've achieved in certain things you haven't but you couldn't say I've one or I've lost. Life is full of unexpected moments. THAT SHAPE US and change us from a game of ping-pong to life altering events that can change our narrative and our identity. And if we're lucky we might pick up some wisdom along the way so today on the show. So we're GONNA explore wisdom in hindsight how we often learned the most important lessons about life in ways. We never expected and just quick personal personal note after seven years of being your guide on the Ted Radio. Hour this episode will be my last new one and as you might imagine over these past ask seven years interviewing hundreds of incredible Ted Speakers. I have received a lot of wisdom which will get a little bit later but for now back to the Pico Ir and finding meaning in Ping Pong. I mean I I love this idea that that winning and losing are on these Binary things that. It's just. This is so much gray right. Life is a series of. Let's say win the losses and draws And it's the kind of collective experience of those wins losses draws that defines our life. I love that idea to so much I exactly. I think it really liberates you because I think trying very very hard to win is not a winning strategy and is not the way you come upon happiness. I remember when I was a kid. I was determined hanging to conquer the world. I'm going to achieve this and this and this and this As most people in their twenties are and then at some point I notice will this is like Xenos Arrow which never reaches its target in other words. Let's say I won the Nobel Prize tomorrow. I'd be thinking why haven't I won the Pulitzer Prize. Why haven't I got mccown? And it never ends. And of course that's a recipe for disatisfaction. And the other thing I noticed which speaks to what you were saying so wonderfully just now as I get older is that it's really hard to assess what the victory is and what the losses in our lives off. The bad news is rarely as bad as we imagine and good news is not as good as we hope and life is rarely as simple as our ideas of tall playing Ping Pong in Japan reminds me why choirs regularly enjoy a more fun than soloists in acquire. Your only job is to play your small part perfectly to hit your your notes with feeling and by so doing to help to create a beautiful harmony. That's much greater than the sum of its parts. Yes every choir does need a conductor but I think a choir releases you from a child's simple sense of either offers you come to see that the opposite of winning isn't losing failing to see the larger picture. I once lost everything I earn in the world every last thing in a wildfire but in time time I came to see it was that seeming loss that allowed me to live on the earth more gently to write without nodes and actually to move to Japan and the Inner Health Club known as the Ping Pong table. Conversely I want stumbled into the perfect job and I came to see that seeming happiness can stand in the way of joy even more than misery he does. I mean it's such a simple idea. It's this simple game. And like through that prism you were sort of able to to gain this profound insight exactly as I get older I notice. It's the tiny things in life. The Trivia stuff that we overlook that really brings illumination nation. I think when I was in my teens and when I was a college again I thought I have to read this way deeper philosophy and I have to think about the meaning of life and have to grapple with all these existential questions Russians to to bring to the floor to come to terms with it and delight in the fact that is the the most ephemeral silly seeming aspects aspects of life. That are often instructing me. I would say that Ping-pong has has taught me these life lessons more than all the solemn seeming bookstore ideas. I've entertained over the years and I like it because of course it's also experiential when I'm talking to you now about winning and losing in the Ping Pong Club. I'm really talking about how I feel when I go home every day and does no arguing with speculating about that. I know that I come out every day regardless of the school. Radi pretty refreshed and invigorated and eager for the next day and of course applies to everything whether it's being being a radio host or playing tennis or being a parent or this is what content is to be freed from the sense of me against the world that's writer Pico. Ir His most recent book is called a beginner's guide to Japan observations and provocations. You can find all of Pecos talks at Ted Dot Com on the show today wisdom in hindsight stay with us. I'm Guy Rise in you're listening to the Ted Radio Hour from NPR. Hey everyone just a quick thanks to two of our sponsors who helped make this podcast possible versed to capital one capital. One knows a life doesn't alert you about your credit car. That's why they created you. Know the capital one assistant that catches things that might look wrong with your credit card like over tipping duplicate charges or potential fraud. God and then sends an alert to your phone and helps you fix it. It's another way. 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The guy is a way to talk to you for about a week now Well thank you so much for for doing this. My pleasure my pleasure. Thank you for on the show. Today ideas about the wisdom we gained from sometimes unexpected places. Can you please introduce yourself so my name is Curtis Kiro Arrow. Everybody Calls Me Wall Street For the most part and tell me where you are right now I am in Pelican Bay state imprison. How old were you when you were when you were sentenced to prison? I was seventeen years old. And how old are you now. Forty one forty one. Curtis I mean you were a boy and you were a child when you were sentenced to life in prison. I guess you you're part of a robbery Korea and And somebody was murdered but I have to imagine now at the age of forty one you probably during the recognized that seventeen year old boy so you were A. You probably don't even know who that was if interesting because that's true right along part I can't Hannah Magin me doing things that I've done then but I've never forgotten what life was for me as growing up as a teenager in Oakland California. You know going through the struggle through now. I'm not using it as an excuse but it did play a big role always and you know I never really. Viewed more situation has been helping other than poverty stricken never thought about. You know we'll get the job. Wasn't they have a white picket fence go to college. You know that none of that never even crossed my mind Just just never even thought about it and I never seen before. So far I was concerned life was about you know China make some money you know. Criminal activity was the way to do that. Because I wasn't educated and you could do it the way. Yeah that was my life. Curtis Carol picks up the story at a Ted event that happened at his prison and the reality was that I was growing up in the strongest financial nation in the world. The United States of America while I watched my mother stand in line on at a blood bank to sail her blood for forty dollars this to try to feed her kids. She still has the needle marks on her arms to this day to show for that so I never cared about my community. They didn't care about my life everybody. There was doing what they was doing and take what they wanted. The drug dealers robbers the blood bank. Everybody was taking blow money so I got my by any means necessary. I got mine and I soon learned that finances imprisoned room more than it did on the streets so I wanted in one day. I rushed to grab the sports pays a newspaper so my cell. He can read it to me and accidentally picked up the business section and it's so romance it. Hey youngster you pick stocks and I said was that he said is the place wife over keep all their money and it was the first time that I saw a glimpse of hope a future but it was just a glimpse I mean. How was I supposed to do? I could rewrite or spell so twenty years ago I did the hardest thing I've ever done in my life I picked up a book and it was the most agonizing time on all my life trying to learn how to read the ostracize from my family to homeys. It was rough man. It was a struggle. Little did I know I will receive in the greatest gift I never dreamed of. So so how did you start to sort of learn about stocks because you for ninety nine percent of people outside of prison. It's complicated. It's complicated for me. So how did you sort of start to understand how they were like. How did you figure that out? Oh man it was a puzzle so when I started to read I became a lot more interested in trying to discover what it was and so I see the markets how people watch soap operas storylines so my goal was on everything research everything by stories about piecemeal peace and different articles get full example. I would see an article that says blue chip stocks. So I'll care. The article in the paper said Blue Chip Allah pace that on like vision board like I had made a violent cardboard Dan I'll be reading day later. Whatever I would see? Some this is boots have stopped for companies that have pay dividends or whatever and I will kick out the dividends and so what I was doing was piecing together articles and story. And that's how I learned about route to market particularly just the company's Rust on her first. And you know so. What did you think you would do with it? I mean presumably. You were not able to invest stocks Masumi while you are in prison wall so I have people who invested stock market. Clark put money in and I just told them with the by and went to sail and things like that right okay and and once you started to invest. Did you have a plan like. Did you know what you'd use it for so my plan was if I learned about the stock market I can make money. I can get a lawyer and I could get out of prison. That's what I tell you know. After I had lost my trail and all that I remember my lawyer saying you know man you got road basically you should have been found guilty. She For the case you know in thing if nothing else robbery so that was kind of a my head and I didn't fully leave. I WANNA get out of prison. What I believed stocks could help me get out so that was my belief system? Imagine that there were probably other inmates in maybe even guard. Who are like you know like? Hey Curtis why. Why are you wasting your time with this stuff right right but but to stocks made me feel good it made me feel values also a part of my life which is always? It's about getting in trouble and doing things wrong way and you know when it came to the stop. The stocks was a bus structure was about discipline so the study in the Stock Market Howard all different values that I didn't know that I was learning self worth knowledge. Discipline are now had obligation to meet those on the path in help and it was crazy. 'cause I now cared about my community. Wow imagine imagine that I cared about my community. Financial illiteracy is a disease that has crippled minorities in the lower class nor society for generations generations. And we should be furious about that. Actually this how can fifty percent of the American population be financially illiterate. In the nation driven by financial prosperity our access to justice our social status living conditions transportation in full are all dependent dependent on money that most people can't manage is crazy. It's an epidemic in a bigger danger to public safety than any other issue. Check this out. A typical incarcerated person will answer the California prison system with no financial education. Earn thirty eighty cents an hour over eight hundred dollars a year with no real expensive. This and saved no money upon his parole he will be given two two hundred dollars gave money and told. Hey Good luck out of trouble and come back to prison with no meaningful preparation long-term financial plan. What does he do mhm at sixty? Get a good job. Go back to criminal behavior that led him to prison in the first place. Incarcerated people need need these life skills before we into society you can't half full rehabilitation without these skills. Uh Curtis when you eventually Get out you're going to be prepared to reenter re enter a life that you haven't obviously been able to live for twenty five years It it it sounds like doc this crazy way this experience of kind of having your freedom taken away from you kind of pushed you to think of what a life with freedom can look like and this is what it can look like. I mean you have this body of knowledge now that you can take with you when you leave. Yeah Yeah so let me say this freedom is is a feeling that you feel. It's not something that you have right. 'cause you know as many people in the street side societies Jackie Today Free Katie's mentally you know they got all kinds of drama going on in your dealing with all kinds of problems and issues And I used to perceive she freedom as being physically. My body was in society and I recognize that's not freedom part of it But that's not real freedom. You know the freedom news expression you know freedom to be who you are the yard so no matter what situation you're in and that's hotter place to get to. We did you get my physical freedom back courtesy in your talk you you say that you chose to commit a crime and you take responsibility for that and and the result has been something that's dramatically affected every aspect of your life obviously but Between IT'S I. It seems like you've learned on some really profound lessons. Despite the circumstances that you were born in and the ones you've lived in for the past twenty years so let you say I wanNA say. Prison is not the place for people to come find themselves. Prison is not the place. People can be educated. You can't the only thing that prison provides with people one thing only and that's what you choose to do at that. Time is purely early up to the person that's in prison. I've chosen to use my time. Wisely like some other people a lot of people that are not what I hope that my stories when I hold them my life experiences had will offer young people people. In general particularly young people is that time is something. Anthony learned that you can use anywhere. You don't people often say you know I do not want to prison. You know you might have had a became a person you today possibly so but sad to think that that's the in true that had to happen to me and so I don't want people to who misinterpreted that you know. My Life Story in prison is somehow good to be helping people because it's not not wear these programs programs where we supposed to be helping argues trouble people as part of my goal when I get out of here. I like to think that I've made great use of it the choice People make choices people gonNA have the opportunity to make their choice so I just want to say. They're you know prisoners prisons replacement. Let's Curtis Carol. He's also known as Wall Street. He's Co founder of project feel. It's a nonprofit dedicated to financial and emotional literacy by Curtis will be up for Parole Sim so he could potentially eventually get out of prison. In the next six months you can see Curtis's full talk at Ted Dot Com on the show today. Wisdom in hindsight has some of the most meaningful things we learn can take a really long time to reveal themselves. I've been singing since I was since I can remember i. I remember my first audition. I was probably like six or seven and I found my people so these were singers. Who are really interested in drama? Who are really interested acting operas right from the beginning? When I was eleven I was an altar boy in the Canadian Opera Company's production of Tosca I stay up late? I get to go into this Opera House. They paid my makeup on. They put me in. This cost you to run around while doing something that I absolutely love and then they give me a check. That's how I thought that was really what solidified my love for music. This is injury. biscottis injuries an opera singer and I also worked for the San Francisco Conservatory of Music Music. where I helped musicians use the tools of neuroscience to practice more effectively so an opera singer and neuroscientist so in in high school I got much more interested in in science in addition to music and I discovered Oliver Sacks and so when I graduated from high school I had to make a choice between what I was going to do next and in university and my mother is a conductor and a musician and she basically said go get a medical degree. It's it's really hard. It's really hard to make a living as a musician and You know we didn't. I did not come from a wealthy family. We were immigrants and we had no money and so whatever I was going to do and university I had to pay for it myself. So injury went to school to study psychology and then onto graduate school learning about how memory works how brains recover from surgery and she kept practicing music but she did it kind of in secret grit because I felt like all these other things are working really hard you know they never leave the lab and if I like take our everyday like they're just they're not they're not gonNA think I'm I'm serious than so you know. I felt like that was my dirty little secret that that there must have been. That must have been hard to keep up. Yeah I think there comes a time in every Grad students students life when they realized like okay like now I just need to do. I need to just do this until I can get it done. And and and because the competition is so stiff and So when I really immersed myself into the work of being a neuroscientist identify and I got it done but I it was like like the light inside my soul dimmed a little I was like I was selling something and it just didn't I got really angry. I got really irritable and I didn't like who I became so after injury finished her PhD. She enrolled in a Master's program in music. She spent a summer in Italy performed the classics completely dedicated herself to music and honestly she was kind of relieved to step away from hard science. That is until she realized the neuroscience could actually make her a better singer. So I'm going to say something. I shouldn't say that I'm going to say it anyway The person that was teaching vocal pedagogy. I felt really did not know how the brain learns remembers and the things that I was taught in that class made my eyebrows. Stand up in my forehead like absolutely. That's not the right way to teach singing. And so you know that made me think well wait a minute if like these experts in this amazing conservatory. Sorry don't know the basic fundamentals of you know how we learn motor skills like the isn't there a way that neuroscience could really help musicians positions maybe bring in some nurse would make it easier for me to get better faster as a musician and then I stumbled across this one paper Apor by Valerie Sal impor- and her colleagues Robert Satori at McGill. Because you see in the paper. They showed that there are two regions of the brain saying that mediate getting chills from music and they tracked dopamine in these regions. They're the Kadett. And the nucleus accumbens engrave conscious continues on the Ted Stage. Now you can think Advocaat it as your parent tells you that your behavior has consequences it tracks. How the things that you see and hear and observe and do have outcomes? It sets up the expectation of a reward of pleasure and it ensures that in the future you will behave in such a way that you will seek reward and avoid the things that lead to punishment punishment. The KADETT is awash with dopamine. When you're leading up to the special moment that will give you the chills but when you get to the moment that it gives you the chills? There's a dopamine spike in your nucleus accumbens nucleus accumbens your bff. It's your best friend for life because more dopamine in the nucleus accumbens correlates with a bigger high the intensity of the chills. That you feel from music depends on how much dopamine there is in your nucleus accumbens but the a number of times you get the chills or if you get them at all depends on the amount of dopamine in your candidate. That's what I learned. That's what it means to be musical in just a moment. We'll hear more from injury of his contests about how she learned to tap into the brains of her audience to deliver a more powerful awful more emotional performance. Stay with us on the show today. Wisdom in hindsight I'm Guy Roz in you're listening to the Ted Radio Hour from NPR support for this podcast and the following message come from from the American Jewish World Service working together for more than thirty years to build a more just and equitable world. Learn more at age. Aws Dot Org not. The Chat Bot on Sheila's phone is supposed to ask her questions but when she starts asking winging it questions it center poetry secret dwelling place mysteries held in the dirt. Time fact other plan. What happens when you treat artificial intelligence with love on the new episode visibility a- from NPR? It's the Ted Radio hour from NPR Garros and on the show today wisdom in hindsight ideas about the lessons sends we learned from sometimes unexpected places and before the break we were talking with injury vs contests a neuroscientist who was training as an opera singer. My a teacher used to say to me and my lessons all the time you need to focus on all the notes leading up to the high note. You can't just think about high note and I'm like no that's wrong because if I missed the high hi no. No one's going to pay me like that's the money that they call it the money note and and so you know I I would listen to her and I tried to do what she said but I never really got it until until I read this paper a research paper that show there was real science to back up what her teacher had been saying. The intensity of the chills that you feel from music it depends on how much dopamine there is nucleus accumbens but the number of times you get the chills or if you get them at all depends on the amount of dopamine in your caught eight and and then it clicked. That's what I learned. That's what it means to be musical and I was like that's exactly right if I don't set it up right the audience first of all not. I'm not GonNa have that pleasurable experience getting chills. And you know. I'm probably not being very musical because I'm just essentially not. I'm not creating this tension attention that eventually will be released and change the way I perform so I used to be like on nerves but the high note got to get to the high note booms up there and now I'm like I'm GonNa take my time time even before I started to sing. I'M GONNA stand here until the silence is uncomfortable because what I'm doing is I'm setting up in the brains of the audience. Audience this desire for me to do my job and it makes my job as a singer so much easier and covered of so much anxiety to that was the interesting the thing I used to have so much anxiety when I was standing in front. You know about to start to saying thinking like are they gonna like me. Are they going to like near the knee and then like now. I just stand there and I'm GonNa like the the longer I stand here. The more you're going to like me So neuroscience helps you become a better performer but may also sounds sesame like music brought more joy to your work neuroscience right. Yeah I mean absolutely goes both ways Not only did music may be better nurse scientist nurse. This is maybe better musician but it it is both and I think that you know. Sometimes we just get caught up in so fixated on on one way a of looking at things and that just limits us and so you know when it comes to trying to think of what to study now as a neuroscientist ientist. I started to really always go back to is whatever I find going to be interesting to people. My friends people I care about like other musicians and if the answer is only going to be interesting to the other cognitive neuroscientists at the conference. It's not I don't WanNa do it. it's not something that I I wanna spend my time doing right now but if it's something that when I finally get the results I can share with my musician friends or you know. I can share with my educator friends or I can share share with lay public. And it's going to be interesting to everyone or at least to a subset of those people that are not also cognitive neuroscientists than I think it's worth doing Injury this contise neuroscientist and soprano seeing a piece from the opera TRAVIATA. And if we wait for I think we'll get a spike of dopamine right On the show today wisdom in hindsight and as I mentioned earlier this is my last new episode and after interviewing hundreds of incredible speakers for this show. I'm going to switch around to the other side of the table. And if you don't mind pass the MIC on to the next host of the Ted Radio Hour Mnuchin Maruti. Hello Oh oh hey. Hey how are you. I'm good. I'm good yeah Are you how do you feel. I feel oddly. Calm right would you should. Yeah that's it's great. I know I think means grownup now guy. Yes I think this this great okay. So you're wrapping up your last episode Assode Guy and I Kinda WanNa turn the tables and ask you what strikes you about the last seven years. What are some some of the ideas the people that you will take with you as you go into the next chapter yeah I mean I think that that throughout the seven years have been the host of the show. Every interview is like it's a a journey and every interview is extremely meaningful right like I interviewed you. You're on the show and I remember our interview and it was so it was so great and you were so kind and and funny and warm and generous with your ideas. Thanks and so every interview is like it's Consolo weird but it's like a a a whirlwind romance. I fall in love with everybody. I interview for that power and yet you you kind of have have to because I am there to to bring the to help that person bring their idea out into the world. Because I think that's an idea worth hearing that hopefully hopefully will give our listeners. Something to take with them. They're so many of these conversations hundreds of these conversations that have been those experiences They're few that I really come back to a lot We had this episode that we did on memory and we are invited Daniel comment on. He'd given Ted talk about memory and When I interviewed him he had just returned from Switzerland and I said how to go and he said it was wonderful it was it was amazing and I said Oh that sounds great He said but we left. We left a day early. I I said Oh no what happened. He said Oh no no. We decided to leave a day early because we were having such a good time and I was confused at that point right without well. Why would you leave advocation a day early and then began this conversation about memory and my wife and I both decided not to so you decided to cut short your vacation? Haitian just to make sure that you wouldn't. You wouldn't mess it up that we wouldn't ruin the memory you know you might have had a great day absolutely. Wow depending how you look at it. This could be a mistake. It really depends how much weight you want to give to the kind of memory you. Why does that happen? I mean why. Why do we remember ember things based on what happened at the end of the peak in the end? Yeah actually I think there is a good evolutionary reason for this if you were to design an animal and you were economizing on how complicated the brain of that animal would be. You might say well. I want the animal to store. The pecan he can to slow the end and how long the episode was really doesn't matter what matters is how bad with a threat and and whether the story ended well. That's the animal needs in order to plan the future to decide whether to have that encounter again to avoid at all cost post and it's the very last memory we take from an experience that shapes how we remember it and so as a result he he lives his life that way but he will leave things when he is enjoying it and almost immediately after that interview it really changed the way I try. Try and experience things like if I'm at a party or an event and it's really great okay. I'm really enjoying it. Elif you say goodbye. I won't and not the last person there you know Singing along with the Karaoke and With drink man like I will leave and go home home and go to sleep and just had have great memories of that evening or that experience and I was thinking about this conversation I had with Dan Economist harmonises in four or five years ago now and it struck me that it is connected to in some ways my decision to move on from Ted Radio. Oh Aw yeah. Because it's been incredible experience to be the host of the show for you know into to be part of this world old and I'm so happy you know it's been so wonderful and I'm so excited to hear you take this show in two different direction shen and that's the that's like the way you kind of want to leave a memory right. Yeah that's pretty poetic. I would say. Okay so Danny Conman who else I mean which interviews do you find yourself just thinking about all the time even after all these years Couple years ago we had Elizabeth Gilbert on the show obviously the writer of eat pray love And she that's something really profound in that conversation. Something that I have never forgotten. I think about all the time which is that. We shouldn't necessarily follow our passion but we should follow our curiosity. You know that that is the thing that is going to lead us down a road Towards the things we feel you know that we feel strongly about that brings joy or pleasure or you know inspire us. We keep telling people to follow their passion and I feel like that can be an intimidating and almost cruel thing to say to people at times because first of all if somebody has one central powerful burning passion. They're probably already following it. Because that's sort of the definition of passion is that you don't have a choice if you don't which is a lot of people have one central Burning Passion and and somebody tells you to follow your passion. I think you have the right to give a finger because it just makes you feel worse and so I always say to people. Forget like if you don't have a an obvious fashion forget about it. Follow your curiosity because passion is sort of a tower of flame that is not always accessible and curiosity is something that anybody can access any day. Your curiosity may lead you to your passion or it may not it may have been for. We're quotes nothing. In which case all you've done your entire life is spend your existence in pursuit of the things that made you feel curious and inspired a national be good enough in a lot of ways. That's sort of been a metaphor for what we do on the show because it's really about watching a lot of Ted talks wchs and and just getting inspired by an idea and then building a show around around that idea Wanting and to know more about what he said. I'm going to assume that there are some people who just think because you have interviewed all these amazing people people and had so many hard conversations about so many topics that you must have internalized a lot of the lessons that they bring you too you too these interviews from their talks and that maybe I don't know maybe you're like a super better person in some way because you can I mean am I going to go through transformation guy I guess is what I want to know I mean yes yes. Of course I think what I've learned even from you talking to people who just so inspiring to me that I have so much admiration for is that we are all flawed and complex right every single one of us right at every single one of us us can be unkind unforgiving But what I I. I love this idea that we also change a lot We had we had Dan Gilbert on his he. He's a professor of psychology at Harvard. And he he did a lot of research into how our personalities really changed profoundly over the course of our lives. We don't think that's the case. But what he has shown is that more or less every ten years who we are our personalities. Our values change a a lot. Most of us can remember who we were ten years ago but we find it hard to imagine who we're going to be and then we mistakenly think that because it's hard to imagine it's it's not likely to happen. Sorry when people say. I can't imagine that they're usually talking about their own lack of imagination and not about the unlikelihood of the event event that they're describing. The bottom line is time is a powerful force. It transforms preferences reshapes our values. It alters is our personalities. We seem to appreciate this fact. But only in retrospect only when we look backwards do we realize how much change happens in the decade. It's as if for most of us the present is a magic time. It's a watershed on the timeline. It's the moment at which we finally become Ourselves human beings are works in progress. That mistakenly think they're finished. The person you are right now is as transient Enzi and as fleeting and temporary as all the people. You've ever been the one constant in our life is changed. I love that because I think that you could argue that. Over the course of our lives we become increasingly sort of better versions of our previous self which I hope is true because I You know like I think most people I am still at work in progress and I hope you know hope you are hope. Most most people listening are to That's lovely so Any words of wisdom for me as I go forth Do's and don'ts yeah I mean. I think I think you already do this. And I'm I'm just GONNA double down on Elizabeth Gilbert's advice but it's follow your curiosity so you have this opportunity to really follow it in any direction to go down any rabbit hole to have conversations with people who have thought really deeply about their ideas. Some of them are simple. Some of them are more complicated but But there's almost no idea that in my view isn't worth at least hearing out and I think you know one of the ways that you've been such a great host. Is that you have modeled for listeners. How to be curious about ideas you've shown them that if you just keep digging ask the next question or keep going or pull a thread? You might find something extraordinary. Certainly unexpected something that may be unlocks a door that you didn't even know was there and I think that that has been the pleasure and joy of listening to this show for the last seven years so thank you. That's very nice. Thank you thank you for saying that. It's been it's been amazing and I can't wait to hear to hear what you do with. I can't wait to go. This is the height of the party. F- cards over. We're having fun. Let's go nice. Good stay memories. Hey thanks for listening to episode on wisdom in Hindsight this week and thank you for being such an amazing community listeners. It's been an absolute honor guide past seven years. I won't be far. You can still hear me on how I built this world world and wisdom from the top and if you WANNA find out more about who is on the show this week go to Ted Dot. 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Part 2: Kobe Memorial with Mike Trudell, plus The News (ACS Feb 25)

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Part 2: Kobe Memorial with Mike Trudell, plus The News (ACS Feb 25)

"Thanks for listening to the Adam Corolla show on podcast one. Well Mike curdle who's been a longtime Los Angeles. Lakers sideline or coma sideline reporters at the sideline and basketball. I don't know yet is okay. Sideline reporter is. He just came from the Kobe. Memorial is GonNa tell all who spoke what they said all who sung and all the feelings about guys traveled with. Kobe knows him very well and has a very interesting Kobe. Ping Pong story coming up as well than the news. Of course I. There's pet online. It's almost march college. Basketball's elite or fighting for the lower seeds While they're the least finding for the upper and lower she's get in the tournament. Nba's in its homestretch as well visit our exclusive partner at podcast one bed online take advantage of the best bonuses in the business. Sign up for free account the Promo Code Podcast. One for fifty percent sign up bonus. Nba Got Nuggets at Clippers. Box at Raptors Celtics Trailblazers and. Well we got the xfl. 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Lakers podcasts and also like the sideline reporter for Many years no koby very well and just just left the memorial so nobody better to fill us in on that experience so thanks for joining us. Oh It's a pleasure to be here on a on a totally different note. I was just thinking back to nine hundred ninety five when I was in eighth grade and love line came on in Minnesota every night at midnight. So you taught me a lot about things that I didn't know much about told many jokes as well so I appreciate that You in Dr Drew. Educating me and my friends when we were in eighth grade yeah that show was penetrated a lot of places and cities and got a lot of young people and some sort of a bygone era where people would stay up and sneak. The radio under the covers young. Listen there was nothing else on you had your TV stations. And but at that point we all had to be in our rooms kazoo midnight under supposed to be sleeping. You turn on the radio and there was like the only show where you could decide from music. Yeah and it was great. It was a great resource. You now you have a million podcasts. Such as this one. You can kind of pick what you want to learn about. But at the time I literally remember it was just Love Line. I was calling to Loveland was the last of that. Yeah and then my pitch to program directors always. I'm number one as long as there's nothing else on now few choices than we got an issue. But if you don't have if you're safe harbor that's right. I'm like I'm the number one cafeteria food at the school. As long as there's no in and out for then I'm still number. One flocking so mike you just got back from the memorial tell us your thoughts or recollections of yeah it was just a it was incredibly emotional as anybody that just washed. It could tell but being in there. You didn't know we weren't sure what was going to happen Other than that. They were going to be a lot of tears. And so it starts with beyond say and then Jimmy Kimmel comes out and just thinking about You know one of the most indelible moments after he died. Was that video that surfaced of Kobe talking about Gijon Jimmy Show Ryan so there was that immediate kind of connection and and I think that that America knows that Los Angeles knows that was perfect for this kind of made everybody feel comfortable was able to elicit a laugh here and there of course which was much needed and I thought everybody did. A great job is spoke from the heart and it was just. I don't know if I'll ever be there for something like that again. This is this is such a singular event. Such a singular thing that hits in so many places of as a child as a parent as a family member as a fan all parts of society. Really that have kind of rallied around this in this city. And it's it's so heartbreaking but also there's a lot that we can take out of it obviously as well hearing Vanessa Speak About Tgi. He's like Oh my God that was you know what she's never going to build the do what she did do. I mean Um and she was so eloquent and I'm amazed as someone who does public speaking. I'm always amazed at how poison how good sort of civilians can be. You know they. They they ride it out. It's eloquent. It's thought as well thought out. It's from the art not a lot of stammering and cotton mouth. You know like. They seem may she was like amazing. This situation that could just get the better of anybody. He tears understand amazingly poise. Yeah so at the end and I write it down to make sure member. Did she said Babe you take care of our and I got ninety. Bbn Cocoa. We're still the best team I mean. It's just it's it's shattering. And so when we were actually as the team was flying back from Philadelphia had there was a game the night before and when the news happened and so all of us are I. Guess One person I got that initial tweet from. Tmz started to spread around the plane and it was just the thing that that part of it was. Just surreal believable. And everybody's trying to confirm or deny as best they can. You guys are in the air and the air. There's an element of you can't be the same as when you're on the ground you're hearing the worst news awesome and of course some of the people on the plane or very close to Kobe. And then one of the one of the gentlemen in the back had who had done some security with his family There were there were some hints or some worry that possibly one of the girls could have been on based on kind of the route that they go back and forth. And that's as you as you mentioned. Adam. That's the part. That's so truly. Devastating is thinking about that image right of looking over at his daughter At a at a certain point that we all we all think about so it's really devastating so Who spoke at the Event we know at least at least keys played I think Rypien played Christine Aguilera saying I'm Ave Maria in the shack spoke. And what was Gino are Yama Sabrina? I S Q with the the future number one to be and then and then you know Michael Jordan coming out was just something unexpected. They've just been so few times that we've seen him. The last time that he spoke with publicly was the hall of fame speech and to have him share those those heartfelt moments of his friendship with Kobe and the big brother little brother relationship. And he's just for me growing up in the eighties. He was the guy for me. The Michael Jordan will always be sort of that top level hero and then he was the guy to that. Kobe was desperate to surpass or at least two V as great as he could. And I've never heard I I've worked in the NBA. Obsessed with this stuff in Jordan has never shared this this before this connection these text messages the phone calls he would be Yeah it was. It was incredible sitting there hearing that and looking around and you could feel that in the room you know. Some of the greatest athletes in the entire world. Some of the the most a beyond say of course started like Conti West is. They're all of the Jimmy. Kimmel all of these people that could go anywhere and be the most quote unquote famous person in the world are all thinking about Kobe in this different light. And then there's the one other person Michael Jordan summarizing at all I. It's just it's tough to to match. That did yeah. Gina schock was kind of amazing in his own right But I remember I might have been UNESCO not sure one of them took a shot at shack show she was. I don't I couldn't tell if that was supposed to be sort of good human light-hearted or if there was some bad blood there maybe she just had. Oh no poker face it was I think she. I think it was mentioned. Something as a joke about Lebron like the fadeaway jump right. I'm on my probably like anybody else. Watching my brain was half fried with all the people coming up in your crying here there and then you're looking at all the people next to you in the arena was full to a Bram and it just yet so when she said that about the Bronx it was it. Was that same kind of feeling of all everybody. The sense for me it was like there's there's a real uniformity around this like a real so many people knew him in their own different way or at least from afar that it touched everybody in in. We're able to kind of all more than this as a community which doesn't happen that. What was the Lebron Common? It was something like she was talking about G G and what an incredible player she was at this young age and I could be getting this wrong so please forgive me but it was something like she. She's amazing three point shots or something and Lebron hasn't been figured out or something like that. I think it was so she. She had already mastered the Fadeaway at her age. And I think Lebron just did the other right right. You just hit the fadeaway over Jalen Brown last night to be Boston. So she may have just been referencing. That gotTA laugh. But she didn't laugh and I was like. Oh I don't know if there's something good and now he ever exposed not because a lot of shocks speech was about their. They're sort of not beefs. But kind of explaining a Lotta that away like oh no. We always laughed about it afterwards and we're brothers so it was really interesting. We HAVE THE JOKE. Found the the joke all right. We'll hear looking at Scotty. Pippin I think your skill was undeniable at an early age. I mean who has turned a rate fadeaway jumper at eleven? Lebron barely got today. Yeah she's making too. Yeah so he hit a jumper. Last night against our yesterday's how long in total was the event so it started about ten thirty to twelve thirty which is about two hours and so you knew Kobe. Pretty well with your job. Sideline reporter spent time traveled with the team so on and so forth. I think there's one story Chris tell me about you and he playing Ping Pong together or that Thanksgiving night. How did that start go? Yeah so so I WANNA say it was around two thousand twelve or twenty thirteen and the team was in Detroit and it was Thanksgiving and of course. Everybody is missing their families. This is one of the things that happens during the NBA. Season and coby realized that nothing had been planned. So he essentially like rented out the second floor boardroom. Type thing in this hotel and there was this massive Thanksgiving spread and he kind of took care of it at that point it was him in a bunch of young guys so he was kind of like the older brother on the team and the team. Yeah on the the other players. Were you know? We're young guys so Kobe at this thing. There's a bar there and then there are a couple of Like footballs and then there's a ping pong table so some of the players start going back and forth. I think I started playing Jordan far at a certain point. And then I don't know if people hardcore Laker fans might remember Sean. Williams was around for a cup of tea and I was playing against John Williams. Kobe was on the side. And He. I was beating Sean so Kobe was talking. Trash to Sean. Like how are you going to lose to the sideline reporter like you know? What are you doing and so I I in complete jest and anticipating nothing except for hopefully a hardy nod of approval said something to Kobe along the lines of. Do you want to and insurance if you did. And after being I wasn't sure what I got myself into. And so he gets up and I play him and pretty soon on. I realized that I'm just in this one thing. He's he's better at almost everything one of the greatest athletes in the history of anything. I'm a little bit better at Ping Pong. I grew up with the table so I know this right away. The second that I see him hit and so I- beat them pretty heavily the first game and he's not talking trash to me but he he's. He's actually adjusting within a ping pong game so by the end of the game. I had to stop preying on his backhand because he's adjusted to that normal people. Don't do this sort of just get up and play. And then they sit down so then he says let's go again next game. It is literally it is harder to beat him two minutes later in the second game that it wasn't the first game and it just Rob Pelinka actually the of course best friend. The general manager of the Lakers He got up and told a story today about playing tennis with Kobe. They would go to the health club or whatever it was in Newport beach and he was playing with Kobe and rob was better at first so a couple of weeks later he goes and plays Kobe again he finds out. Kobe's getting private lessons from the The pro the pro club and he's already started to make gains. And so I saw this for myself in this little ten fifteen minute window of playing ping pong against him. And I think that was echoed in all of the turbines that you heard today that this was how this guy was he he wanted to and had to be the best or at least try his hardest like he didn't care that you lost me. That was one thing that was impressive. It wasn't an ego thing. He was just like okay. Well I don't want this happening again. So his security guy later told me that he ordered a ping pong table. I think one of the next couple of days. So it's just it's my own little slice of it. It's embarrassing even to think about like yeah. I beat Kobe Ping Pong. Who Cares it's just the it's what what you get out of. It is is a little window into how he ticked. Well you know it's interesting are kind of what I'm hearing in that and it's also I had a conversation with somebody yesterday about this which is like. Why aren't more people interested in improvement? Why aren't they interested in getting better? You know we all have talking to a guy. And he's telling me about a couple of his brothers that you know do spoke cigarettes and drink energy drinks. And they're like and it's like it's like when you try to coach them up they get angry and agitated Communist referendum person. Right why are there so many people it just so Kobe wanted to improve? And if he was playing ping pong he wanted to improve playing ping pong because it turns into a global thing. It's just a mindset like it could be a language it could be an instrument it could be making a short form documentaries could be making children's programming. He was in the he was in the business of improving. Yes and basketball ended up being how he got paid but he was always in the business of getting better and so you watched him get better and six minutes playing ping pong with you because his he was adjusting and making improvements and other people get angry at the table or they get angry the ball or to get you or that the paddle has it in for them or the net hates them or whatever it is and I think admire about him is that he was constantly doing that. How can I shave a few tents off my next lap around this race course and I don't know why that is not a little more prevalent? There's more people who are on the other that sat side of that as so hearing you described that though I I would imagine like to get to build. What you've built. You had to have a certain level of aside from the the talent that this curiosity or this wanting to be great at something to keep pushing it to keep doing it all these years and continue like I. I was driving in this one from the previous shows. Probably this kissing your ass but take one of the previous shows. You were talking about the difference between like a turbo engine and a supercharged. Engine and not a podcast. The level that you described that was was like listening to Lebron talk about pick and roll like it was it was really there was passion like losing out of that so that that is that is that quality that Kobe had it. Seems like in everything knowing? Well I don't know why. Such a large percentage of the population is taking his taken a stance against improvement or information or knowing but the have and then. I think that makes guys like Kobe. Standout like that that much more because even though you think it would be like a little more ubiquitous like people want greatness people want to strive for greatness people wanna work in work past the pain and all. This is all a bunch of cliches until you have to go do it. And then you don't and then most people just they WANNA have sandwiches. Sit Down. I wonder if people that were also threatened by the people that are pushing to be that good at something. I felt like that I grew up in Minnesota and there was a little bit of that. They're like what like what do you mean. Why do you want to be the best in your class this sport or have the best? Gps there's a little bit like who do you think you are well elements. It'll have luck if you are sitting on the sidelines of life. Getting Fat. And somebody says why. Don't you join the game? You don't go because angering lazy because that Guy's Dad. That guy was born on third base trip walking rigged. There's a lot of rigged. There's a lot of you know. Oh they were just born that way. Think about think about all the touch by God guys gifted. He's touched by God like okay. Well how you going to compete with touched by God you know and it gives everyone an out to. There's if somebody said the only difference between that person in you is. That person has a stronger constitution. That person better work ethic and that person has more character that would make you feel horrible but if instead you said that person was lucky touched by God born on third base or with a silver spoon amount than it takes all the onus off you so we've constructed this elaborate scaffolding of excuses that enable us keep eating and sitting. We'll so koby. No one could argue with the talent. Father played professional basketball six six incredible gifts but he always said he wanted to be known as an overachiever. And so even with all those gifts like the truly great people at anything right or some combination of talent and hard work in any walk of life and so he was definitely that Lebron is definitely that like look. Lebron James came into the NBA. A grown man it eighteen and Bronco or bouncing off him and yet he got better every year and he got a little stronger and he got a little tougher so that that was it and the other thing is you were talking about that. Made me think about from from being in listening to Toronto and he kind of Kobe's attitude enabled a lot of young girls and women to feel that same way in gee-gee was now taking that mantle to try to get to the next level so now for her she had Diane it's Rossi whereas Terachi looked up to Kobe. So that paradigm shift. It seems to me like that's really powerful. And you think about how where the WNBA could get in fifty years because it's still super new like the English premier league has been around for over one hundred years in now even like people talking about major league soccer. I'm going on a tangent here but soccer here is still new enough where there's a lot of game of ground to begin in the WNBA started in the nineties. So I do think it could get to a higher level there when did the NBA start in the fifty forty fifty the late forties and fifties and then the merger happened with the with the like later in that but it was there was the league before the NBA can't remember what it was called but yet the NBA was right around that time? Yeah Very sad very I don't know hope everyone sort of take stock of Themselves and their family and their life and And also if you're if you missed Kobi or you were inspired by Kobe. Then you take a few pages out of his playbook and get to work everybody. So that's That's just what that guy did. I mean you know. He's not here because while we were all sleeping Sunday morning he was up. It's going to a basketball game with the with his daughter. I mean that's honestly what what what the reason he's not here because was a work day for him or data improve or help somebody around him get better my hang out we'll Take a break and then we'll come back and do the news right after this. You Gino break I will. All those crazy trump tweets G. grant trouble than the gene gene the news with Gene Grad fresh on the heels of this memorial something that made headlines this morning Vanessa. Bryant has filed a wrongful death lawsuit Following the DECIFIT Kobe. Her daughter thirteen year old. Jonah this according to the La Times Bryant has brought a suit against Island Express Helicopters Island Express Holding Corp Seeking General Damages Economic Damages. Punitive damages The helicopter pilot. I believe it was so van. He was previously disciplined in two thousand fifteen for violating federal flight rules and received counseling as per the La Times. He was also flying island at that time as well and during the fatal crash in January thick fog as we know the lapd they ground all of their helicopters that day a preliminary investigation showed. There was no engine failure on the helicopters. Part So that would actually be an interesting question for Garriga's how does this work? On behalf of your clients or the client's passengers all money. She spearheading it for everybody. I don't know it was just for her family. I think everyone's gotta lawyer. Everyone's going to have a company like this without Buco. Insurance is super deep pockets. And they're just going to go after the money and everyone's going to be compensated and everyone will be minus their loved ones but set set for life financially so the guys who were were not so worried about the Brian Estate. But the guys who baseball coaches and do other regular civilian type so be set up for Life Brian. It reminded me of what was the LAUNDROMAT. Meryl Streep Right Denied you insurance. I certainly hope that doesn't happen. And I expect quickly urgency Meryl Streep in a laundromat. Screw up. Yeah coin people yet. She her her help was off in my washing was it was the Belair Canyon Beverly Hills. I miss the smell of that place. I used to go to coin dryer sheets all the time. Many boxes or something is coming in because they had a smell of warm air merson about then a video game sometimes pacman in one that he's too fancy ones and miss. Oh no this was in Marina del. Rey I moved out. I miss the probably the most comfortable seating minus any padding at all like the fiberglass just slide on into that the one in Hollywood Has like one of those claw games but you pull out boxes of detergent. Wa for the children and Yeah it was a simpler time but I also realized like bring a stack of papers and some stuff and I'd like get caught up on failing writing out checks right bits. I'd like write comedy. Bits and stuff is like the self-imposed creative environment that smelled like tied. I mean like I'd have to go down there for like three hours and I just bring a whole bunch of stuff stuff. You Never WanNa do as long as sportscenter on your TV set at home. Interior soap factory nicer. The smell of sides Wasser there. That's right mysterious blonde enter. She's got grass stains but then they invented the iphone. You can't be bored anywhere now. I don't care about running errands I've got my air pods or whatever I'll just listen to a podcast. It's fine I'll I don't even sit in line. I'll tell you the I'll I'll pay the thing that it has the smartphone in the ubiquitous smartphone has ruined not ruined me. But it's it's hurt. It's hurt me a little bit in the. I don't care nearly as much if I'm eight minutes late somewhere because if I walk in the person's always just sitting at the table and they're during the middle of something like they're taking care of business sometimes answering tax in common. It's like oh I was just working on. I still don't do it but I have a different mindset on it because in the past there'd be the guide be playing Napkin football with himself like he'd ball up a foot restraint in their kickoff. Do that move at the Straw. Where he punched up the paper on it unreal guys. Just sit there board office. Ask staring at the ceiling. One hundred is that right because I'm thinking of The Times that I've been waiting for someone if text me on five minutes out feminist. Thank God I appreciate the five minutes. I taught up on something so we talked this the other day. About how One of Steven Spielberg starters is doing porn. And how she says the family so supportive and they're fine with it. Choose love it when their daughters you porn that you're telling me NO TURNS OUT. Steven Spielberg might not be as cool with it is Is his daughter. Wanted us to believe the cinematic us when it's only a one camera shot when Michaela's Spielberg revealed last week that she was embarking on this x rated film career. She told Britain's Sun magazine that the IT Director Mother. Kate capshaw are not upset even intrigued. And she's twenty three. She might not have told the whole story according to a friend of the family. All intrigue intrigued as to how you don't think you're gonNA be cut off. They said they've always been supportive of Michaela and try to understand her but there are limits and they're embarrassed by her sudden public admission into this world of sex working at the insider adds quote. Nothing can hurt Steven Spielberg's immaculate reputation nor cates. But they're worried about how Michaela's revelation looks to the other kids who are trying to be supportive. But they're embarrassed to they certainly. This is not how they were raised. Nothing can hurt his reputation talking to Harvey Weinstein. Bill COSBY IS INNOCENT. Things reputation as it stands. Now let's not pretend that it's all it's her revenues all based on streaming or click. Girl at ever right yeah. They begged her take her instagram down. So doesn't this kind of news get her or Oh yeah. This is great great. I mean otherwise she minus this. It's just sort of average looking gal up there flicking her. It's a few solo work. Yeah I file this under snake. Meat like rattlesnake. Why we ought to stay like I just not not my thing. I get it. Don't you think this is heard another wave of boost knowing that daddy hates it? Yeah I guess there's going to be a lot of curiosities right sure have you heard of Michaela's Spielberg before this? No Yeah I don't know who's in it Max Patty. You're the right age. Girls Girls Girls. What what what is it? Who's in a CAM girls? And then what what? What's the what's the allure? Let me let me ask the other guys okay. Great Documentary Look at the name of it because I saw it and it's fantastic documentary. Brian and just a camp computer. Hot Girls wanted to see. If that's on strike that's a net flicks. I think I think it was anyway so I saw some of that. It became wildly depressing. Right it is streaming on Netflix. And it should be called marginally. Attractive girls don't they have like after Horn but I all it makes me go to my computer. Look for during porn for the heyday during wash real hot girls wanted watch uncles one because the guy they're just like the recruiting in the management. And all that Shit. He is fucking great care. Horrible horrors is a great character. He's amazed at Beak Rome. Yoga different ends of the spectrum. Multi-million DOPEY yeah. He's he's a schmuck. Yeah but he's great. Please don't watch it earliest going with your eyes open while we wait for Chris to take a poll of the staff here. So another details. Come out about this friends reunion special. We talked about that recently. Hbo confirmed on Friday. It is happening. Networks President released a statement saying the original cast entire cast is going to be involved total price tag. According to the rap at least twenty million what network. Hbo Patria. And here's what we didn't know before. Apparently because we knew was GONNA be unscripted. It's not going to be like a Sitcom but apparently ellen will be hosting like kind of a talk show format what a lazy payday panel remember. Ross got the monkey. Yeah that is exactly that is exactly what it's supposed to be because they're showing clips. They're talking about clips case twenty million dollars. I don't have a strong take on friends is. I've never seen an episode but this reminds me of the episode of inside the Actors Studio when they had the cast of the simpsons on And they weren't funny because they're not scripted. Like Kalki like tankers area was kind of funny and Harry Shearer had some some good ones but it was painfully unfunny. Because everyone's there to see the simpsons we all know and love is one of the best shows of all time. No one's writing. There's asking him questions. I hear from home or simply does homework home. That wasn't funny. Yeah I'm I'm Kinda over. Friends is a funny show. But I'm over it doesn't we don't need to keep going this. Kaelin year into the webcam girls time-to-time nearly midnight as it were to be honest. I don't I've never done like the kind of live watching or the paying for it's kind of the more entailing wherever and are are. They is it that they can interact with them. Give them suggestions stuff to do. Or How's it work? I mean yes when you do stream them live. I thank you can pay for them to do. Certain things feud Sept- yeah watched Here's ten bucks. Can you please show me what they're always alone right? Y'All know sometimes I think there with friends workers. Yeah you're Jobs a joke. You're broke but never with the fellas right now. They have their friends. Come in the girls. Right okay World out there sexually. It's weird to me. You Know Mike. What do you now? Yeah well I was just thinking about. I was trying to think of what else I did before the IPHONE I was. I was thinking to be Calculators snake game like graphic calculators. Yeah I don't know why that was what I was thinking of. When you guys were talking about the The CAM stuff. I'm not really familiar with that. Yeah what goes on the team plan. Kim South can't I can't say that I can speak on that Brian but the question but on the flights right yeah right down. I'll read it for you. What's the what's the meals on flights other very good? Yeah Yeah but how does that work? How does that work? Do people put in before they leave or this go? We got steak or chicken. And so there's like there there are certain catering services right the various teams in the NBA us. They've gone back and forth between just using restaurants and then having a caterer that provides a larger menu usually. I mean it's all catered towards the players because they need to recover and then the rest of us in the back. Just get the benefits of this right. So there's there's usually a steak chicken and fish and then there are there are sides. There's always vegetable right. There's always some kind of like a starch potato or something like that yeah and then you can pick whatever you want basically. What's the booze policy on the flight? So there is no booze. There's nothing on the on the plane. I understand that it's different. Certain sports like I think that they do have booze baseball hockey. It's not even a question. Probably have kegs in the visa. Right right. That's part of this. You know booze on the flight. Yeah Yeah and then boot you though you don't know okay. What is what. How does it? Plain configured it's it's a chartered plane. There's a first class the players the coaches are in the first class. So it's it's a little different team. Also some teams have their own plane like mark. Cuban has a plan right that he flies him as around on the Lakers charter through Delta. So there's a there's a big sort of really yeah a lot of teams are on Delta but it's like a specific it's a specific plan so like even the seats in the back basically first class seats around but the so the players were in the front. The kind of the training staff and strength staff is in the middle and the second part of the middle the coaches and then in the back. It's going to the broadcasters. The public relations crew the crew radio stuff like that. How many all laying on the plane. That's probably I WANNA say. Probably like fifty s fifteen lane. That would hold one hundred fifty or something like that. If it was configured like southwest. I would think so. Yeah if they had the seats really lined up because some of them have the tables in between right so how can face each other got the laptops up and they're watching game film and yeah overnight the flight home from Philly or New York or whatever now at ten pm or whoever it is these dudes Just trying to catch Z's first class seats it depends. I mean some some guys sleep. Some guys play cards. Some guys watch movies. Some guys try to sneak on a little booze refir- something and we'll edibles a little bit so there is a security check so I don't I don't think you I don't think drugs are common. Wouldn't be surprised if there is the occasional beer here or there but it's not it's nothing I mean typically like on a typical game seven thirty. Pm East Coast by the time you're in the air. It's one o'clock in the morning So it's not like a party scene. Usually guys were either sleeping or watching something just getting something done. And it's it's it's not as you might think there who drinks the most roster depth into that. You Know Brian. I'm going to think about that back after the news. It's a fair question though the only other rumor just to wrap this friends situation as David Schwimmer said. We're not rebooting. We're not it's just this thing. The rumor is that the actors are still in negotiation for a twelve part reunion series next year but only if HBO can afford it. So we'll see thank. You gotta be happy when the Jennifer Aniston so the world love paydays working. You know because name. Yeah like if you're in a ban in your guns and roses and axles a little nutty in has F- me money. Just Relax Malibu for seven years in the drummer and you go out you know. Make some Hay while the sunshine band member that is rich from the Solo. Work and doesn't need your money doesn't like you our right. Then they're done but you know Anderson is such a big component of it. Who's out there? Having this fruitful career minus friends is always game to go back and jump into that. Did you watch the no to remake thing? Oh every commercial for I was scared to watch it because I I. I enjoyed nanotubes. No one high school I did. All this was on afterwards. I was in I was like I didn't want to spoil it but then at the same time. I'm definitely watching Topgun Maverick. When that comes. Oh Yeah so what the difference. I mean I. I'm not really worried for my top gun nostalgia. Maybe because the trailer looks awesome. I don't know yeah well. I didn't turn into quite the star that time through step. Maybe that give it time but I used to love watching all the melrose place all that stuff. It was just schlocky now thing but I i. I enjoyed it as adult. I'm older new time soap opera. Yeah her they were. Those were good shows. Heather locklear cast put money on it. I would say the. Hbo Twelve Part Series. What happened in the reason I'm thinking about this is because I was talking to you Phil Rosenthal. Who was like who had a show on Netflix? He says do those popular thing on Netflix friends. Reruns the office if HBO like wants to take a little bit of business from now. Lex friendly's whenever price they pay me worth it. Well I don't know what Hbo's up to these days but a few years ago. I mean the only game in town was HBO. You gotTA stand up special. Whatever now it's net flicks and beyond I nev-. Hbo feels like I'm assuming they feel like we gotta make a move. We ever make a big move now because we're sort of losing market share. Every day that goes by I'm confused by the HBO. Max thing like I already pay to subscribe right so I have all of their shows available. So what what is beyond that? What is Max of what seems like the full Cadillac strapping waiting for friends right? Disney plus does the name Mike Hughes Mad. Mike Hugh sound familiar. Oh well see a stuntman. Yeah and I'm just going to preface this story by saying there is video of it if you WANNA watch it but over the weekend mad Mike Hughes was killed after the botched launch of homemade rocket So video of the crash and don't don't put up Posted on twitter shows the homemade rocket as it takes off from the launch pad mounted on this white truck and it is in the distance. It was a steam rocket. I think what was evil. Knievel's evils can I think was evil evils with steam was. He is blog a home. Think homemade scientist yet lake Yeah like quasi scientists right. Yeah this is the Science Channel So at the launch the rocket veered to one side and a parachute could be seen floating down While the rocket crashed into the desert and Barlow. I'm sorry Barstool California. The event on said it was supposed to be featured on homemade astronauts which is a new series for the science channel. And this this was From The New York Post I believe it says he is believed. The Earth was flat. Part of his goal was to fly into space to see from self and maybe that was just sort of part of the fun of it. I don't know there was a steam cycle. The Sky Cycle that cycle as it was called the evil flu and he thought he was going to get to like sixty thousand feet seems insane. So the thing that's so eerie about the footage and it's so reminiscent of the Evil Knievel. Snake River launches when evil was launched parachute deployed asks. He was being launched and in this case Mike he got launched parachute deployed and tore off when he was owed. Now you're just going into the air and minus the shoot. Now the the good news is is. He probably didn't know the shoot was missing. And tell he hit his sorta a pack started to come down and then start to deploy the shoot so she wasn't all it wasn't probably on the way up. He probably wasn't aware that the shooter deployed. I think I may go this way. Go and I'll I'll tell you why I'll tell you why because that's what I've got. My bid carters really only been one instance of a guy doing a steam powered rocket launch. And that's evil knievel and the one thing that really went wrong. It's a shoot deployed prematurely on the way on the launching pad. I Dunno maxwell you could probably look at both evil and his I the shoot right now. I think in the evil one. There's some controversy because it's like Oh jeeze made evil go back like pull the united his hand on the yoke and the Chute deploy was above that and he's probably pulled back on it or something and then of course evils like wasn't pilot. Error was mechanical error. And the Guy Build. The thing didn't like that part of it. Maybe we'll never know. But if I was embarking on this endeavor to target date I I look. There's one thing that can't happen. There's one thing there's just one thing that can't happen I cannot have the parachute deploy on the way up. Which case all the steam all that's coming out of the back of the rocket just blows up the parachute and then I'm up ten thousand feet near with no parachute now we need a second parachute on the no or we need this one or whatever but the one thing that can't happen is what happened evil knievel and when you see them both as I see them both sort of in my mind's eye they both just did the same thing they just evil evil fired his thing snake river thing and the shoot was dragging behind him as he was going up. The thing to shoot was out. He's so lucky that thing didn't just blow up but it literally deployed as he went out. And what's this Mad Nike's Mike us? Mike is Exact. Same thing shoot deployed on the way up. Evil was lucky in that his shooting blow off. Mike was Unlucky. That shoot did blow off well but that would be like I just feel like this is the one thing that can't happen happen. You guys have any of you know I. I haven't either deathly afraid of it. But it's it's like why am I trusting that one hundred percent this this whoever I'm strapped to assume you go with whatever it is. How do I know one hundred percent that you're gonNA pull the shoot at the right time? Not just it's not worth it to me. I you know people say it's liberating or whatever and I. I don't begrudge anybody on the other hand it's a very weird non human thing to do to every all your wiring us the stay in the plane. The good news is as I've seen and I've been to a couple like a parachute academies and stuff. The plane is always much scarier than this guy. Alty run Guy Brian fixed-wing above wing and of gossip that low right on the side with the permit permanent place landing gear like. That's that thing. When you jump out of that thing you may be doing yourself a favor like statistically. That's a fair point I jumped off the stratosphere in Vegas. That was terrifying your bungee jumped. No they show. Yeah you're kind of security you. You hit a bullseye but I was up there and I was at the very end of plank and I know you guys are going to be shocked but I started crying. I was like I can't do that. They can't do this and they were finally like you. Will you gotTa Shit or get off the pot here? Because we got a line. Which is a metaphor. Don't shit out there. And they realize that at the time so what? I ended up doing for some reason at that moment. I realized if I was going to do this I had to do it backwards. I couldn't look out into the abyss and step off that plank. So I just nudge myself to the back and just fell out. Today was awesome. You're glad you did it. Yeah it was funny because there's video of it because they do that as you go down and how my face goes from absolute terror absolute joy and you see the progression in that like three and a half seconds. It was pretty cool. I'm glad that people aren't bungee jumping as much. That's Kinda Guy. Hit his head on the rock dream because they didn't calculate it like I'm I'm tired of watching people jump off. Do you have mics rocket there? Somebody somebody tweeted me. I've never seen this off in. The distance looks the same as as sort of evil saying his truck mounted thing and he just fires out. And you'll see that ship deploy what appeared to be the same shoots out like and then and it's and it's bad but luck if that's not exactly what happened evil. I don't know what is there's like I I just say there's just one thing that can't happen. Our we need a second shoot me. There wasn't a second one all right. Let me hit macari. If you have stuff and it's cluttering the house you've got the old baseball glove doesn't fit anymore or the dress you've only worn once The old phone in the drawer. Let's get rid of it. Let's put in a landfill. Let's go with macari the selling APP. 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Where's your mom? Strat Shit Your Dad forty. One years ago. I don't see that draft anyway. It's messed up because the diamond thing. That's one thing that's that's more money than probably most of us when we get married Feel like we can spend but then that at least does retain value it. Does I think it's to prove we'll so I? For example I did give I got to see the commercials guaranteed appraise for five times compared to what address is going to stick it. At least you have an on and it's and it's still a diamond value. The worst is I think some of them have to go into like storage and then you have to pay for the storage humidor temperature. Whatever I don't know it's all to some weird ritual that it's essentially that whole world is like I'm angry at money. That's what it feels like to me like. The floral arrangements are only forty six hundred dollars. There will be dead the next day. Line angry money out of the house right. It's so fast like everything about it is a. Let's see how much we can spend on nothing in one day? Now Look I get food. Get some good catering showing and band and I. I get the band photographer but like the dress I duNno. Can we tell three hundred three thousand and the floral stuff? I guess maybe in the Diamond Re. What are we going to do with that? Well thing is if you guys are living comfortably and Palos Verdes fine. If you're living in an apartment in Sherman oaks. That money should be going towards the CAGNO grounds. Yeah that's exactly what I said to me what I still tell him because we talk about wedding stuff and we're talking about engagement rings. I'm wearing my grandma's wedding band not her engagement ring but I say just remember. I appreciate you wanting to do it up for my sake. And that's all very nice and generous but I consider any money being put toward. This wedding is money. You're stealing from our down payment for a house that's marriage. Oh you know what I mean like like I. I don't want to rob us of our future for a party. Of course that's very sensible. Sensible being twenty six. I've seen a thing too so you shouldn't. You shouldn't believe everything you see on the Internet. The stories now finally getting some traction. I saw the youtube video last week. Popular Youtuber proved that once again you can make anything look true according to CNN. Natalia Taylor. She posted a series of photos on her instagram. We have some that made it look like she had this far off travel adventure exotic Bali. She's in this tub full makeup. She has other scenarios. She's in this bamboo room and she told everyone she's on this big. Now leave it on this picture. Thank you This big amazing exotic trip to Bali. Everybody bought it. Everybody thought she looked amazing. Everybody wanted to go to Bali after this. Look in the mirror. Do you see anything any Easter eggs. There that might tip off that she's not really a hotel and it will be very hard to see. Probably if I don't if you don't know what you're for this I take a picture. Do you see that white strips or the white strip KIA receipt. That's a tag hanging off the couch Kia in. She wanted to do this to kind of teach everyone a lesson. She hid these little tag Easter eggs and told her photographer leave them in. She fooled everyone and the whole point wasn't to make her audience feel dumb or to make any money she said. I'm trying to prove a point. The perfect place to vacant ensue. Influence our vacation and delighted. All my followers was not the point. I want people to know we could all use a fund or minor to take social media seriously. And don't believe everything you see. Is there anything? I've been a time to nothing. Wa- FTSE Batter Swedish meatballs. Damn share pizzas pretty good wafting. Mcdonald's fries fries pretty good but the Swedish meatballs the waft mandate put it by the front door. Man You love me. Some Swedish meatballs one counterexample. What am I what about like cinnabon? Yeah that's good wa Wa wa Strong Airport Wa you can be like you can be like two hundred yards away in a mall to a cinnabon and you start getting into your like. What's Pretzel a little bit? Or Whatever Pretzel yes. I agree good waft. Thank you but I would argue. That savory waft brings it out and you more like the RIB joint that the savory wall is just we so maybe that's me. I prefer desert almost anything I I liked the sweet walk. But the savory mix me drool like the actual meat we start to salivate like in feel myself like a salvo. What's Yeah Yeah. Four four the meets with pre-meet sweat interesting. It's a it's the salivating and I do like I'll see my dog. I'll see feel like I'll be in the kitchen like eating a steak or I'll look at film. He's just he's to ruling us that's wired in Arizona. Diamondbacks left hand Madison. Bumgarner is one of the greatest post-season pitchers according to this article. Baseball isn't the only thing he's been competing in. You know this Brian He's a bowler something else. He's thirty. He told the athletic That he'd been using an alias Mason Saunders to take part in Rodeo events explaining to the sports news website. He's been competing under the alias to not attract attention in early December. He won twenty six grand in a team. Roping Rodeo competition in Wickenburg Arizona. Yariel Hick Yeah and interview with. Mlb in two thousand sixteen bumgarner. Who grew up in rural North Carolina said? He learned roping from his future. Father in law when he was fifteen or sixteen years old he also said at the time that Rodeo could be could become more than just a hobby once. He retires from baseball. I hope the Roping. They use the young calves right. Yeah the young cast so they rope and then they wrote them from the Horse. They jump off the horse and then they hog time essentially and then they do like a time thing. When they're done I think they should only use the camps. Set aside for veal because I really like extra miserable like you're sitting in his cage drinking milk all time getting ready for slaughtering someplace August. Oh look ahead by now. You can leave explore the space. Yeah you like. What's his name from crap? Catch a Predator. You're saying you're free to go all right well. I made a big mistake and I'm going to go on the Internet anymore. You're free to leave. Okay I'm sorry. The police no are not yet walk. Tell Britney I'll see you in about eleven years but All right I'm just leaving you free to go ahead. And the guy goes like well it dodge and then the Fresno Popa always tackle them on the lawn and it's always great because they get down get an ESA guys going down. They'll jump on top dot files complying Langham Valley. But I feel like they do that. Chris Hansen's should say to the veal. You're free to leave right now. I never over. Just start walking down then. Bumgarner comes up on your bike you're running dictate jumps on the first thing. I ever heard about Bumgarner aside from baseball. Do you remember the Vin scully thing with the snake? So vin scully. Who you know the famous could read the phone book and it sounds amazing. He told a story on the air dodgers giants game about bumgarner saved the rabbit by killing a snake with his bare hands. But this is something that we do that kind of stuff that gets him going now. That's good then. They posed the question that I was wondering. Is He allowed to do this? I mean does the contract. Say he can possibly break his back doing rodeo stunts. Well he's not he's not bull riding but if you gotta jump off now you gotTa jump off that Horse. You gotta rope it in. Jump off like while. It's still kind of moving. It's it's a very fair question though it just there. Aren't that many athletes. That would like there isn't a lot of precedent probably for this specific sport. Basketball guys have gotten in trouble for snowboarding riding motorcycles. Vladimir Radmanovic famously with snowboarding and didn't tell the Lakers about it and like it it got hurt. There was an issue so this would be one of those things that would probably qualify when Bumgarner Rule C. I think is a former giant. Jeff Kent didn't he have support issue and he's claimed like a foul office truck washing. Yeah sounds right doing some crazy shit? They should have been doing avoided his contract. That sounds right. Yeah all right. Let's do one more all right. Sixty two year old retired marine. Da Supervisory Special Agent. George Hood broke the world record for planking last week holding the abdominal pose for a total of eight hours. Fifteen minutes and fifteen seconds Coin Fox News Hood was a previous record holder but had snatched away by Maui Dong from China. He beat him in two thousand sixteen at the Plank World Cup and Shangri La Hotel in Beijing Hood said he prepared. I Live Sports. Move for nine hours. Play what he did to prepare to slap contest. That's not the planking competition. Great APSO. He said he did. Six hundred. Seventy four thousand sit-ups two hundred seventy thousand pushups and practiced for to do this and he did it for ten hours and ten minutes. I don't know how tall isn't look. That tall Chinese guy worries me a little. There's gotTa Be Height Division. Tore feel like five foot four. That's it's an easier place like the bench press. It's easier to bench long armed and you're six four planking tougher. Yeah so after. His record was confirmed. He celebrated by doing seventy five push-ups and then announced his retirement. You know somewhere. He has a daughter with the eating disorder right. Yeah she hates transitioning steps on daughter. Dad planking so where but if you want to go to this Point Bang C. J. Four stepsons transitioning. So he's going to be out of here at about eleven days guide around. 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NPR DOT ORG slash game to make a donation to your local station nation. That's donate dot. NPR DOT org slash game to find your local station and get started and thanks. This is only a game. I'm Karen Given for his latest book. John U Hubay can spent the two thousand eighteen college football season with Jim Harbaugh and the Michigan Wolverines. The book came out in September and since then whenever John stands in front of a crowd promote the book he always tells the same story it was August of two thousand eighteen and John had just started ended his season with Michigan John's wife Christie took their then three and a half year old son Teddy to fan night. He's running around the field having a great time but but that begs the question and that is if teddy wanted to would we let them play football. At that time we really did not have an answer. We were not sure for all the reasons that other parents are also not sure you're so then something about this next story made you feel like you had an answer. Talking to the newsome's take their changed our minds but this is a little bit of a tragic story. It is kind of a tragic story but I figured that grant newsom and his parents would be the acid test. I wanted to ask them. Is it worth it and he did. And here's John Leeann. Newsman had been an all Ivy League football player Princeton Leeann. His wife Kim did not want their son. Grant play football when grant went away. Wait a Lawrenceville Academy and New Jersey. He could not resist joining the freshman football team by a sophomore year. Grant started on the Varsity. He was so good that is coach. Had A warning for Leon and Kim. He sat us down and he said to us if grant wants to do this he's he's GonNa Play College. Football and I was floored because that was not a conversation is expected to be having when he started playing freshman football in ninth grade junior year grand received offers from thirty four schools including every Ivy League team and most of the nation's top twenty programs the recruiting experienced was a whirlwind for grant and for his parents a spring of his junior year. The newsome's drug Penn State for recruiting visit and stop for Gas. So we we we pull into the sheets about about ninety miles away from Happy Valley. And I'm I'm walking into the bathroom and my dad's behind me and there's a man who's coming out. He looks at me and goes grant newsom onto. Yes he said you know. I'm a huge fan. You know really hope you come to to Penn State. We love to have you and I kid you not before we left the sheets there was another fan. Came up grand newsom and we really need offense align. It was weird that he can go to the bathroom but But also just tells you how fanatical the fan bases at so many schools when grant and his parents visited Penn instead again grant went away thoroughly impressed by the coaching staff and the football program and I left Penn state visit thinking. I was going to be any line. We were driving home and I thought well it's game over but grant had one more visit plan. The University of Michigan Unlike Penn State Michigan was headed for a rare losing season. And everything else about the town. The campus and the academics after two weeks of deliberating I still couldn't aside and I remember it vividly sitting in our living room And my mom says No. Hey what you thinking and I said No. I have no idea mom I really. I'm torn between these two schools. Now I it'd be a flip of a coin support and I said well take football out of it. If football goes away because nothing in this life is guaranteed. Where do you want to be? I said well it's no question it's Michigan. And that's that's why. I ended up at the University of Michigan. Shortly after grant made his decision Michigan fired the entire coaching staff and hire Jim Harbaugh fresh and the NFL's San Francisco Forty niners a few days later Harbach called grant introduces himself and I says unique questions for me and I said I guess my only question is do you guys to want me and he said you know if you're if you're loyal to me if you're a little Michigan we're loyal to you and that was all I need to hear. Grant assumed he would not plan Tila sophomore season to save a year of eligibility but during a team meeting before Michigan's eighth game coach. Harbaugh pointed right to him. We're kind of just like an passing comic meaning says grant no be ready. You're playing this week. And I just pillaged around and what was Gasson pointing to myself. Saying me gruesome embiid. Grant played well so well that just one year later he was not only starting at left. Tackle the blindside his already being pegged as a future. Nfl Star charged take the fifth game of two thousand sixteen season. The fourth ranked wolverines take on the eighth ranked Wisconsin Badgers and a future all American linebacker named T.. He Jay Watt. So I knew had Milwaukee but we're playing well it's Seven nothing at that point Been Been Holding my own blocking pretty well so I was feeling good. And it's being like we. We had the game where he wanted it. And then the coaches called a play called ninety nine truck wished to quarterback pitches the ball to the running back. He runs behind grant who clears the way by diving. The defender's there's legs maneuver called cutting as in cutting him down but right before the snap grant had a promotion. This voice in my head and I kid you not on. It's never happened to me ever again. It's my voice and it says if you don't cut him on this play he's GonNa cut you so the ball snapped and something about it just didn't feel right office Smith and I remember thinking as I'm running towards US defender. There's not enough room for me to cut if I cut cut I'm just GonNa clog the whole and it's going to be three gangs. There's nowhere for the running back to go. No this is obviously happening in Split seconds so I make the decision and I said I'm GONNA stay up. You'RE GONNA take them for the team. Essentially essentially I'm GONNA stay up and try to block him in minimizing my body's on the ground and they're gonna be occupying this whole running back needs to run through in the last thing I remember was making that decision to stay up. I see him start to cut. And that's the last thing I remember before on the ground that was probably for the best. The defender had gone headfirst straight eight in the grants right knee so great shoved grants knee sixty degrees in the wrong direction. Grant crumble to the ground landing on his stomach. Unfortunately fortunately it looks like they're left tackle grant new still on the ground and I remember trying to crawl and then I one of my teammates came as a great guy. Get up I remember saying I'm trying and it just it didn't feel like my my body wouldn't let me get up the training staff and our team doctors and coach our come out and they say all right. Can you can turn over for us and I turn over and I feel my pop so you can hear it. You can hear it so I so I I just tore my acl turnover. And you say this I say I tore my the F. ING ACL turning over so with heavy assistance. I walk off the field and right before the tunnel. This fax me that my mom is in attendance on a no. She's probably sobbing this point already so I turn try to give thumbs up no towards the section and other sitting in say. Hey Look I'm fine. You know even if it's attorneys I'm fine you know. We'll get through. This waved off the stretcher and the ambulance wants to walk off on his own powers. You the thumbs up in this grant and the medical staff went to the teams emergency room under the stands. And we're soon soon joined by Leeann Kim and grant two younger brothers and it didn't seem like he was in a ton of pain. You're sitting up asking if he could go back out and watch the rest of the game from the sidelines and they said well we're going to hold on for a little bit initially thought it may just be a sprained. MC L. This point. I'm thinking Lou. I just went from thinking I see L. to now. It's a sprain. I'm doing the math at this point. I'm thinking I'll be back from Michigan State. I'll be back for For a house it certainly so this point. I'm I'm pretty overjoyed. But at the end of the exam the doctors asked grant if you had any tingling or numbness in his toes numbness my toes. But I'm sure that's probably normal. It was not normal. The tingling indicated the main artery which delivers blood to his leg had been damaged and they both look at each other. And say yeah. We're going to take you to the hospital for a few tests and then very quickly. We were getting in an ambulance going to the hospital. Grant underwent x-rays CD scans an MRI trying to find the vascular injury after each test. Not Tony the results. You kind of get this thinking feeling like something isn't right here. Keep in mind. My family and I are watching the Wisconsin Michigan game from the room in the TV on TV in the emergency department. So we're watching this we're following. We're cheering the nurses are trying to Russia's because we're cheering too loud in fourteen. That's enough to beat Wisconsin now and not five minutes after the game ends Dr Career a year who ended up being my vascular. Surgeon comes in the room and he puts I would call the doppler which is a machine that kind of amplifies. The sound of your blood pumping he puts out on my toes listens for maybe ten seconds most and says we're gonNA take emergency surgery. The lower part of your leg is getting fifty fifty percent of blood and needs to thrive. Just look at him and what I had no idea we were talking about some serious. I couldn't even imagine even being at the hospital and so I kind of look at him and look at my family and and the only words I can I can think to formulate our. Am I GONNA win. This is done and the the last thing I remember his saying. We're tired best. The surgery was supposed to last for hours. Kim Leon and grants brothers waited needed and waited and waited. It was seven hours. It felt like an eternity Takoradi emerged and told the family. They were able to save his leg and they thought the surgery was successful. Doctors told the newsome's if they had operated just fifteen minutes later grant might have lost his leg. His mom was right. Football be taken away in an instant and the days that followed doctors removed a large chunk of grants lower right calf muscle. What did it already turned black from lack of blood flow and bolted a metal rod to sty and Shinbones to immobilize grant recovered in the hospital for more than a month? The highlight of my day was moving the the two feet to the chair that was in the hospital room grant stayed in school and started rehab. My my right thigh was the size of my left calf. I took my my second second first steps in my life. Two months after the injury and that those first steps were kind of like the Wright brothers the Kitty Hawk and was very short flight. mm-hmm thanks to a lot of hard work and a lot of help with the coaches and trainers visiting every night for weeks. After six months grant could jog again six months after that he could run full full speed. He was determined to return to the team. The idea secretly terrified as parents but they supported him almost two years. After the injury and August twenty eighteen grant was practicing with the team again. I was able to do all the tin conditioning. Essentially I feel good essentially do everything we could do. Just without pads on and without contact act but add practice a few days later I was just watching offense climbing defense lineman go head to head on blocking drill and just hit me like you. Don't have this anymore. It was just the sophy moment of it is what I'm trying to do worth it. After practice ended grant pace the length of the grass field finally worked up the courage to my dad. And say hey you know. I think I'm GONNA hanging up. I think it's time Lien told. Grant that if he was sure about his decision and he would support it so I think with him probably pace another two miles in that field back and forth and then finally call my mom. MOM's acquire So I call her and tell her and I was here thirty seconds of silence on the phone. I just wanted my son to. It'd be okay and I was worried about. Who has people were going to be? Now if he wasn't if he didn't have his team but grant still had his people he still had his team. Grant is now helping the tight ends analyzing film and send it in place while getting his Masters Degree from Michigan Ford School of Public Policy Coach Harbaugh and the rest of the Michigan family embraced him and continued to embree Sam. In a way that I will be forever grateful for big question. Shen was it all worth it. That is the million dollar question as they say in. My answer is yes emphatically yes. Everyone Likes Mike Joke that your mission got there. They got their money's worth of me But I got all that more for Michigan. I'm really just extremely grateful in some ways. I think everything happens for a reason and I think this was to help him realize that he he he has what it takes to get through the tough times. I think it's it's made grant strong. It's made us stronger as parents. And so I. I wouldn't change that for anything in my book. Leeann said this I believe to the bottom of my heart. Grant will leave Michigan as well prepared to face the world as any young man could be. That's John U Bacon. His new book is titled Over Our Time. Jim Harbaugh and the Michigan Wolverines at the crossroads of College Football. You are listening to only a game from NPR in this. We GonNA ask me another. We challenge singer polical to a game about birds but not before she quizzes US morning. Yes Uh more on. MPR asked me and other listen now. I'm Karen Gibbon and it's time for three stories you should know. I think there's just some a big change coming and as long overdue and I'm excited that's former. NHL Player Akeem illu speaking on Tuesday. A Lou has accused his former coach. Bill Peters of making racist comments other players have come forward alleging physical abuse by peters and other NHL coaches and and that's where we'll start this week. I'm joined by Toronto based Sports. Writers Charene Ahmed via Skype and by New York magazine contributing editor will leach. Welcome back both of you. Hello Karen Hi will honor as always thank you Charene Philipson. While it's been busy in Canada you know this all on the tails of Don Cherry. The hockey night in Canada hosts that was fired by sports net for sharing his xenophobic comments. And then walking back not apologizing for for them so Canada in Canadian hockey and hockey culture generally has begun unintentionally in very. Ill prepared manner begona conversation Asian about racism at hockey and that has sort of also gone in a way where hockey players have come out to talk about. Abusive coaches. Elise said had what happened was ten years ago when he played for the Rockport Ice Hogs and Rob Brindamour who is the now. The Carolina Hurricanes actually corroborated elise his account. And so that's where we are right now is trying to sort of parse out what should be addressed. And honestly one of the few people of Color Sportswriter in and my country sort of saying this should be paying attention to this is who you should be on learning from so charene coaches got pulled into this conversation when the Maple leafs fired Mike Babcock he was let go for not winning games. So how did that turn into this broader conversation. Well what happened was Mitch Martyr. A Toronto Maple. Leaf player came forward and disclosed that he was punched and kicked and then people sort of paused and made the usual pronouncements so he's just very passionate as a coach. I mean we hear about Bobby Knight being legendary being aggressive as a as a coach but this was a different level and then different players started coming forward and it became a thing. Social media really really became a thing in terms of a vehicle for people to disclose this. Well what do you make of all this. You know I always find it telling how how much influence players themselves having this and to me that's encouraging because the thing about players is that they're young people that defend this kind of activity. We are always these old guard people and they'll always claim well. That's the way it's always been and that's the way it should be. This reminds me a little bit of the Richie. Incognito thing happened in football years ago where there was this idea like you. Can't police. Locker rooms the locker room is not a normal place of business. It's different it's men on. What except then a bunch of players players came out and said No? This is not what it's supposed to be like and we don't WanNa work place to be like this. It shows that older guard that claims these are the way that things are supposed to be. Were were obsolete. Years ago you mentioned Bob Knight. There aren't a lot of Bob Knight Defenders Anymore. These conversations tend to have a wider affecting quicker effect in a large part because the players themselves are standing up for what they believe. Yeah I read a comment. This week from George Laroque he played twelve seasons in the NHL and he compared what's happening to the metoo movement and while the type and severity of the abuse is certainly different. I don't think he's entirely wrong. Making that comparison you have a situation where the balance of power is extremely unbalanced and abuse of that power has apparently been relatively typically widespread and well-known. Nobody was much trying to hide it. It seems like and once a couple of people found the courage to come forward and say this this is not right. Other people came forward as well. And now we're really getting a bigger picture but it seems clear to me and I could be wrong but it seems is clear that when these players got kicked or verbally abused or their coach made a racist comment. It probably wasn't the first time that happened happen to them in the game because if it was I don't think everyone would have ignored it so easily and for so long. The New York Times is calling it a cultural upheaval so Shaheen I'm wondering how long before it trickles down to the lower levels of the game. Well I like the term cultural upheaval Vol- far more than I like the comparison. Although I'm a huge fan of lack the comparison with the me too I don't like it at all. I think we shouldn't have to do this. Oppression Olympics within abuse in order to do this and even the inflation of the racist abuse versus physical and verbal and psychological which is all their those that have to deal with racialist abuse far different in carries different types of trauma than psychological and physical would etc etc.. So I think in terms of when it will trickle down the whole system needs to change here. kwami Mason is the director of a really fantastic film calls soul on ice which speaks about black players in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries in the East Coast Canada and he said hockey's a natively diverse. It stems across many communities indigenous black communities the job community entity has their own. TV show parking in pajamas which is wildly popular. So hockey has touched across those lines but it's not inclusive and we need to start having very candid conversation station for me who leads those conversations. A parody of. I don't like the word reckoning 'cause rocketing to me infers accountability and I haven't seen that from the gatekeepers in hockey all right so this week. My tender heart was broken when I learned that the Tampa Bay rays have been forced to abandon their plans to split time between between Saint Petersburg and Montreal at least until two thousand twenty eight. Okay look I know that for many reasons. This was a terrible idea it's logistically logistically ridiculous. It would be a nightmare for players and their families and in the end it might have just been an excuse for the raise. Just shake down to cities in two separate countries for two new ballparks on the other hand neither Saint Petersburg nor Montreal seemed seem to be able to support a full-time team and both cities seem to want one and I personally was looking forward to visiting Montreal in the summertime. Time to watch some baseball SHREEN. Are you also sad. I'm happy because expo gear was really cool and is like super retro so I will acquire a hat at some point I agree with you. I don't even know how this is possible. But you know what this does is make me a little bit frustrated because the links that people will go to in Kengo to for sport is phenomenal and then part of me is like why. Don't people just invest in women's sports this way so I kind of have a different Lens. Will what do you make of this. A large part of this came down to the fact that cities will no longer pay for this stuff anymore. There was a time of maybe fifteen years ago. This might have worked the idea. Did you like Oh. We're going to revitalize downtown all the money's going to stay in the community. Don't worry sure there's a tax breaks in Bonn break and you're paying for three quarters the stadium but trust us we. We owners will give it back to you citizens and so for crying out loud. The new Yankee Stadium in city field were built in large part by by Giuliani. aww sneaking that stuff out the door on his way out to me this is has been a very welcome development over the last five ten years. City councils don't buy this anymore. States states don't buy this anymore. There's occasionally it saddens because like Oh we might lose our team. We have to figure this but the long run. It's good because they're not just giving over the farm too these owners anymore. Yeah the one thing. Thank Saint Petersburg really did right. Is someone there knew how to draw up an ironclad use agreement. It's not even a lease and the raise can't break it like they just can't get out of it and part of me wants the raise to continue playing at the Tropicana which is a terrible place to watch baseball and continue to have some of the lowest attendance numbers in baseball and continue to lose money. Because maybe that will convince billionaire owners that even if they can find a city city that will give them a free stadium. They'd be better off building their own. This is my hope. All right well take it away. I am a fan of the University of Illinois Football Ball team who wants to put it. They're bad they've been terrible forever. They're watching this team has been horrible. They've been a miserable team. But this year behind Lovey Smith. Who is a coach of Illinois Football Illinois? Six they're still not very good but they're going to play in one of these silly little lower tier bowls these bowls do not matter. There's literally a bowl all called the cheese. It bowl is in the grand tradition of really silly balls that are not for a championship and have very bizarre sponsors from the Poland weed eater bowl to the micron. PC DOT COM bowl anyway. The point is all of these tiny little balls. They're ridiculous they probably don't need to exist but they they were good for fans of teams and players of teams like this this year. It's very likely the Illinois is going to go to Detroit. The day after Christmas. The Quick Lane Bowl. I don't know a quick lane is I have no idea. But that's the bowl. They might be playing at. It makes me happy to have all these little silly balls as a place to basically get us through that week between Christmas and New Year's and give something to do rather than talk to our families. Shereen I really really appreciate these. These smaller things. Because it's almost like reclaiming a bit of the sport in a way it's not only the Super Bowl. It's not only the rosebowl there can be other things in everyone can take part. Imagine I like that. It's almost like grass roots and in a way even though we know that teams are huge. Schools are big but I just I really appreciate the frivolity almost of it because sometimes sports needs that all right so you all have convinced me that meaningless bowl games are good but can we all agree on one thing and that is if a player for one of these teams. That's not that great happens to be declaring for the NFL draft and he wants to skip that meaningless bowl game. We're all GONNA be okay with it right because all the drama over like he should be playing for the love of a team or he should be playing for the love of the game when the CEO of the outback backbone made a million dollars and change last year really just harsh on my enjoyment of this corporate spectacle. That bowl games have become. You know I have to okay that makes me feel like you're disrespecting the San Diego County Credit Union and I have to tell you if you're not gonNA support I can I can I i. It's funny as a fan of college football and I watched the Kennedy Credit Union Ball. I'm not even sure what they're selling me. In that ad can I join. I don't live in San Diego. I can give their credit union. I'm not employed by anyone in San Diego. Why are they sponsoring this ball? But nevertheless I don't understand why a lot of these college players play in the championship game. They've got a million dollar deal. Go on the NFL. But that is probably a whole other discussion problem. Imagine being a home of like well. You know I'm generally happy happy with my bank. My guess for this week's edition of three stories. You should know have been Toronto based sports. Sports Writers Shahin Ahmed and New York magazine. Contributing editor will leach. Thanks to both of you. Thank you. Thank you as always Last last June Laura Aaron Shield found herself somewhere. She never expected to be in Albuquerque New Mexico watching her father compete at the national level in a sport. He started taking seriously in his seventies. Here's Laura this ping pong table has become the site side of a showdown. It's the OK corral table tennis but instead of multiple gunslingers on either side there are only two old men holding paddles and one is my father. My Dad Jay. Aaron Shield is crouched like a shortstop swinging his arms to keep his muscles loose stopping wants to brush his white hair out of his. Is His opponent. Seventy four year old Californian named David looks tough if slightly stoop shouldered lean frame tanned soundscan. What appears to be tailored Polo shirt? The man's eyes are locked on my dad. His mouth is set in fierce line. They Volley David Wins. Wins the first point from the sidelines. Dad's youngest brother. My sixty five year old uncle rickie claps. His hands come on Jay. Don't let up. I'll go ricky. Says you get an offensive shot. You take it come on. Come on come on as their friend Carey. Come on man. You got this. We're in Albuquerque New Mexico for the twenty nineteen national senior games a once every two years Olympic style event that that invites athletes ages fifty to over one hundred to flex their athletic prowess in everything from archery to pickle ball. The whole thing feel surreal. Data's competing on a national level in a sport. He only started taking seriously a couple years ago in his seventy s Davis kicking my dad's but blasting every shot off corners and setting being my dad lunging and wild directions data sweating breathing hard. But he's also grinning and laughing and making jokes he's flashing smiles at my mom Basically flirting and I think when I'm seventy three. Please let me have this kind of life. Dad's Ping Pong Group. Is something special. A diverse group of mostly older men at a time when diversity and Aldermen are not phrases. I often connect. The group started five or six years ago. When one of my dad's friends dea eldery a physician who fled Iraq? During Saddam Hussein's reign realized he needed something to keep his body moving as he he got older. After some research everyone calls him. DOC settled on Ping Pong. It didn't take long for the group to start playing in small competitions by the summer of two thousand eighteen dad had qualified for the National Senior Games and after that he and his friends started training in earnest the troubled other ping pong clubs testing themselves against different players Dot Com coach kidneys twenty s. Who is trying to make the actual? US table tennis team. My Dad started watching what he ate fewer late night potato chips CBS. More vegetables last spring dads training was on pace and his game was getting stronger. He and my mom booked a bed and breakfast and Old Town Albuquerque for a week around the senior games and she started making plans to visit Santa Fe. And the Georgia O'Keefe Museum to sample New Mexico's famous Chili Rellenos. And then my dad had cut off his finger. It was April seventeenth nine weeks before the National Senior Games. When my mom's number flashed on my phone it it was just before lunchtime on a workday a strange time for her to call? I don't want you don't worry. My mom started. And if the words had had physical form they would've quivered in the emergency room. Dad had been in the middle of a woodworking project. Sighing a chunk of wood into smaller thinner pieces when the blades sucked in the sham. He'd been using as a guide dragging dad's finger along with it. The blade sliced his index finger neatly at the first knuckle. He was lucky in a few regards. Guards one the doctors thought that his finger could be reattached so he might not lose it entirely too. He hadn't lost much blood and three. The finger anger happened to be on his left. Hand his right hand. His paddle hand was unharmed. DOC was the first person to show up at my parents. Parents House. After the table Saw Accident Dad was under strict no ping pong at least for now orders from his doctor. DOC wanted to make sure my dad wasn't lonely a couple of days later rob. My Dad's doubles partner called. Cf Dad wanted to go to lunch. Uncle Ricky came over and cut the grass. When Dad went back to practice of course he went back to practice? The doctor said he needed to keep his injured finger safe. That meant no lunging in ways that might cause ause him to fall no swinging his arms he served and accidentally knocking it into a table or wealth. Dad's friends police. This the same way. They Played Ping Pong so mercilessly at the national senior games in June. The air inside the Albuquerque Convention Center is filled with the rhythmic. Nick sounds of ping pong balls bouncing off tables and shoe squeaking on a linoleum floor does finger is mostly healed. But not quite per his doctor's orders it is still set in a splint and wrapped tightly in an elastic bandage. He can't move at all on the court. Things are not going well when David Wins Game. Three shutout match my ed places. The ball on the table shakes David's hand and walks over to the sidelines where his friends and my mom or waiting. Don't give up Jay Carey. Says Dad takes a Swig of water water pulls a towel across his neck and head back out to the court to face the next competitor if he loses again he's out dead. Second match is against a tall lanky friendly guy. A semi retired pastor at a Lutheran church in Minnesota. The first game starts out. Okay Dad scores. There's a couple. The pastor scores a couple and then the pastor pulls ahead up by two by five maybe a higher power was pulling for the pastor. Maybe Dad was just too nervous. Or maybe the pastor was just better ping pong. But it's a deflating. Start for my dad. Carry Leans over to me. He's got to get some confidence going forward. Just a little all spark he says in a low voice game to has already started almost immediately. My Dad picks up a great point and goes on a roll game to dad. The match is tied. The Pendulum Swung Ricky tells my dad now you got the momentum Darwin's game three and goes up two games to one one more. We'll give his first win in a national tournament match dead scores again and again and soon it's seven four dad and now carried my uncle on their feet but then the pastor starts S- Corey Corey seven five seven six seven seven. Tie Game. Jay I want you to get an attitude man. Carry shouts maybe that clicks because dad starts scoring again before long. It's ten to eight and then data sending the ball over the net and the pastor can't get there in time eleven to eight a game and match Dad's first national when from my dad and his ping pong friends. I've learned we can approach lifelike at something to he survived and endured something to be fought something to be beaten. We can give up when something tough happens. Sink back into our easy chairs and never get up again or four we can wrap life and our best embrace and allow ourselves new experiences with New People in new places. We can challenge ourselves. We can be kind and and loving and supportive to the people around us. We can bask in the love that shines our way as a result and we can get on a court even in our sixties and seventies seventies and eighties even with partially saw finger. And we can compete Laura. Aaron Shield is a writer based in Columbus Ohio. A longer version of her essay appeared in the September issue of southwest the magazine. We'll be right back with Charlie Pierce. Don't forget to follow us on facebook and twitter at only a game and he only a game is produced in Boston with help from listeners. Like you why not make a donation today just just go to donate dot. NPR DOT ORG slash game to donate to your local station. And thanks. I'm Karen Given next week on on only a game one hundred twelve years ago. Augusta pond set out to drive from what was then pay King to Paris but he ran out of gas in the Gobi desert this year a Belgian architect tried to finish pond started. But now Charlie Pierce is here with the week's news. Hi Charlie. That's a tough place to run out again. Really not good especially in one thousand nine hundred seven. The auto club is not going to come to you in the middle of the Gobi Desert. It's just not going to happen. Two thousand nine hundred ninety is almost over and I can think of at least one guy who might it not want this year to end Ravens quarterback. Lamar Jackson is outperforming. Patrick mahomes record-setting two thousand eighteen fantasy season. His merchandise was Cyber Mondays number one seller and he's on pace to demolish Michael. Vick's single season rushing record for quarterbacks not bad for his first full season as a starter no and the VIC comparisons fall by by the wayside because some Mark Jackson can really throw the ball to. He's a lot of funny. He has made the Baltimore Ravens appointment. Viewing if you're an NFL fan. I mean you just don't want to not watch his team. Meanwhile the forty niners have suspended. Radio analyst Tim Ryan for saying the following about Jackson's skill at running fake a hand offs. He's really good at that site in Mark Jackson but when you consider when he's is dark skin color with a dark football all with a dark uniform. You could not see that thing Ryan has apologized saying I regret my choice of words. Is there any word choice. That would be less regrettable. Grab here no. Tim Regret your choice of idea right. I mean this is we have had generations of football analysts and we've had African African Americans in the NFL for generations as well. Nobody came up with this one before. On Tuesday rutgers rehired former head football football coach Gregg Giannotti shadow is making what is being called a not exorbitant. Four million dollars a year clus a paid country club membership. Access is to private jets for recruiting only for all other university business. Yana will be forced to fly. First Class and a bunch of other perks. I know that the rutgers program is a mess but this seems like a lot for our guy who previously only went sixty eight sixty seven with a scarlet knights. Hey he was over five hundred is all rutgers can expect one on gay and by the way since he left rutgers. I think ranks Yana who has coached every other football team in the world are at the very least. He's been rumored to be taking the job. Now he's back calm and rutgers of course is in the is now in what used to be the big ten and I suspect that his career record at rutgers which is one game over five hundred is not going to stay there well. It was only two years ago. That Tennessee fans staged an out revolt over that schools plans to hire she. Auto auto rutgers fans must feel differently. It seems that was very strange episode night forgotten about it. People running for Governor in Tennessee had to take physicians on whether or not the higher. Greg's Yano that's not happening in New Jersey now. I don't know if people care about who rutgers football did did you see. Lebron James's travel on wins. Everyone everyone else except the rest. I do not know how that was possible. And after the game. Lebron doesn't apparently doesn't know how that would I mean. First of all I know. Oh how he did it because it was just complete vapor. Lock your walking the ball up. And you're not really being guarded that hard and you just you know your brain goes goes away for for a few minutes but how three referees could possibly miss arguably the greatest player in the history of the NBA carrying the ball is beyond beyond me. And actually I give a lot of credit. He took the heat and said he was sort of the referees. For the endless ridicule the referees Hampton suffer for the rest of their lives because the video will never die. Everybody's known for quite a long time that the vote that brought the twenty twenty two World Cup to cutter was less than legit now. Fever has finally admitted it sort of what's going on on the fearful website which despite what what you may think does not have a skull-and-crossbone. There's a document on the website where apparently someone admits that three of the officials got money to vote for Qatar. Putting the thing in Qatar never made any sense. There's no way this wasn't a bribery scandal. We all knew that at the time but now apparently fee has got on on their websites a clear admission and it was. Meanwhile they're saying don't read too much into this. How can we possibly not read into this because we already know I mean I I mean? Don't take our freedom saying don't take our word for it. You know rely on the the endless sack of documents. FBI and the Department of Justice and finally finally Charlie flutie flakes are back twenty years after the breakfast. Cereal sold out of grocery stores. Doug Flutie is re-releasing it once again to raise money money for his autism foundation. Do you have your Bolan spoon at the ready. I have never tasted flutie. Anyone I mean except for the immediate family who's ever eating flutie flakes like frosted flakes or cornflakes or Special K. We know they're flaky. We know we know they're flaky and they're probably probably a bit smaller than the usual flake. Charlie Pierce is the guest editor of the best American sports writing two thousand nineteen and he joins US each week at at this time on only a game. Thanks Charlie next car. There are a lot of seemingly unbreakable record in sports wilt wilt. Chamberlain's one hundred point. Game Nolan Ryan's seven. No Hitters Joe. Dimaggio's fifty six game hit streak. But there's another record you you might be less familiar with and it would be pretty hard to break to only a games. Jonathan Chang has the story short choice on July twenty second two thousand eight in the closing seconds of game between the Detroit shock and the La sparks abroad broke out. Nancy Lieberman was at a restaurant with her son. TJ For his fourteenth birthday day washed a Maili on. And I'm looking at this going. Oh my gosh this is crazy. I mean it was a full on fight. Lieberman was a fifty year old analyst for Espn but watching during the brawl. She didn't see the situation through the Lens of Sports Caster. Instead I looked at that and I went. Oh my gosh. I'm playing. It all started a year earlier at the two thousand seven. WNBA all-star game that was doing the TV for ESPN. And you know they have the skills challenge. The producers wanted Lieberman to test out the skills challenge an event designed to showcase a player's dribbling and passing ability. So Lieberman could better describe it for the not be audience too. I took my shoes off but I was dressed up more for TV than for. I didn't have any athletic gear on so they're like ready. Go and as I finished. I didn't realize it bill. Beer was sitting like off in the bleacher somewhere. Laimbeer was the head coach of the shock and he came up to me goes. That's unbelievable warrior. Time and I said really you still play and I said I messed around play a little. He says when do you turn fifty. I said next July first he he says let's make history and I was like what he goes. Play at fifty four me. I was like absolutely so I didn't I knew I was going to play flay in two thousand and eight. I didn't know when after that conversation Lieberman began training running hills lifting playing pickup games. I I wanted to see what my limits were what my capabilities were and to walk out there and go. Well you know. Who's the twenty five five year old and who's a fifty year old if you line their bodies up and you didn't see her head you know that was my goal so in that broke out between Detroit and La Delay? Lieberman was ready to go. The League suspended five players from each team. And one of Detroit's assistant coaches and bill called me late that night and he goes now I got a couple roster spots available he said I think this is good in time as any and so He says can you come to Houston tomorrow and I said Yes sir. Nancy Lieberman is no stranger to setting records in nineteen seventy six. When she was eighteen she became the youngest basketball player to medal at the Olympics in college? Sheila Old Dominion University to nit title and two National Championships in an era. When and few talked about women's Basketball Lieberman was a national star? Lebron was inducted into the hall of fame in Nineteen Ninety six but it wasn't until the following doing year that the WNBA began. So I played a thirty nine. I guess all soldiers player in the League at that point Lieberman says she wanted to play until she was forty but after that season season she received an offer to become the head coach and general manager of the newly founded Detroit shock and I was so excited six months later I was in and my family moved to Detroit. After three seasons Lieberman left a shock and became an analyst at Espn on July twenty fourth. Two thousand eight fifty year old. Nancy Lieberman was scheduled to being Houston for ESPN. After a bill called me I called my boss city. SPN and said. I'm not going to be able to do. The game in Pat goes why I said I'm going to be playing and she goes what I go to long story but I'm signing a contract in the morning with the Detroit Detroit Shock. I didn't really have much time to be by myself. EXCEPT I go back to my room before we went to the arena and I just I sat there. I can remember sitting on the bed just kind of think about what you know what it meant to me. You know. I've given my life to this game and here it was on yet another level when gametime rolled around Lieberman didn't get to start an thous. Okay the funny part is I'm sitting on the bench and my I son is sitting like across court side and he's like looking at his watch and tapping his watch like come on. When are we going to get this thing going? I'm like dude man. Ah Coaches come from me. And when he wants me to go in and it didn't take long before that happened to go in the first quarter we have some people in the arena arena standing up because Nancy Remember Hall of Famer now in the basketball game. When I went into the game I did tell my teammates? I said even if I'm on the court and I don't look at you. Just keep your hands up and they were like what I said. Please Inner Day Lieberman happened known on for her. No look passes and then I threw the pass. It was over the shoulder and traffic to my teammates and she scored and she was like. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh I almost. I almost didn't see it. I was like I'm just so happy. made it and it was all over sportscenter. The Detroit shock loss. Sixty one seventy nine to the Houston Houston comets and Lieberman posted just two assists and nine minutes but Chedda impressed even her opponents by breaking her own record as the oldest player to ever play playing a WNBA game. Remember Tina Thompson hugging me and lifted me off the floor and telling me how proud she was of me. And that's all you could do. I was an athlete. Is Hope that you've done it the right way. And you've been a good influence or had hundreds of thousands of letters from people all all over the world you know nobody was negative probably TJ. Because he wanted me to play more minutes but it was. It was really great and you know even with bill it was there. There's no need to play another game and I was like it can't get better than this. Why why would I do anything other than what I just did and I was like? That's it I'm retired a few days later Lieberman was back at her old job at. ESPN ESPN is this. The most unbreakable record of them. All every record is breakable. It just how how far it's pushed I if somebody does it. I certainly applaud them. I'm not here to to hoard anything. We're we're kind of pushing each other to greatness. Has that story came from only a Games. Jonathan Chang Nancy. Lieberman is now the head coach of Tim. Power of the Big Three Basketball League. Only a game is produced by Martin Kessler Angry Wallet with help from Jonathan Chang. Our technical director is marquees. Neil our executive producer is me. I'm Karen Given only a game returns next week. Thanks for listening.

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BEER-HALF-FULL BOWER | OLAF DISTANCING

TBS VIDEOS – THE BOWER SHOW

09:44 min | 8 months ago

BEER-HALF-FULL BOWER | OLAF DISTANCING

"It's showtime folks the power show host. He's the power show refrain from discussing or engaging in any sort of interoffice or finger. Our show is live now for show. Welcome everybody to your Wednesday may twentieth beer half full power. I am Bauer. This is lucky. Bauer Lucky Bauer. Welcome to half full Bauer. That's we're going to give you over the next ten minutes here. Chaz to laugh smile and I guarantee you a good deal of happiness with what we're going to wrap things up with you because you are. What your favorite movie frozen to you like the whole frozen series right you like Ana you'll like Elsa Snowman. Oh yeah well guess what we got some. Olaf coming today for you. So you're want to stick around for that. Let's let's tell everybody I log onto the Bauer show dot com. Of course. That's where you can see this very video in addition to youtube but you can also find our podcast audio podcasts. Their Daddy does not rock more each and every week where I take a rock band. And we tried to figure out the four career defining songs that ban Uncle Jeff and I do a the Bauer show podcast. Which have a brand new episode? That's already you can find all of those and you can subscribe and you can review just like you can do to this podcast at Itunes as well as the Bauer show dot com already. Ready to start this show local. Let's do what we usually start off with corona virus. That Jesse you can hosting. If I'm out sick I think you've got this thing look Lou. This one comes to us from WT. F W T F. Dad says my three year old created a superhero named soap. Man Who superpower is delivering soap. That you order. He doesn't even make the soap. He just picks it up for you at the soap store. Now it may not be superhero. We want but it's probably the superhero that we deserve. GotTa Wash Your Hands Right. How Long Twenty. Second right and you could sing. What twice happy. You're soggy high five on that one. Bearing Nice well played luck. Lou You know how people get bored during this Irish time right you. Mommy sometimes do an obstacle course in the house. Sometimes Charlie plays along with you guys on that. If you guys tried this yet taking anything you can find in the house in the kitchen using a ping pong ball and trying to set up an obstacle course for the Ping Pong Ball. Have you done that? Let's watch as this guy shows us how it's done and builds longer and longer courses and manages to add things you'll see here a string that looks like it's going across the camera as because he's got a cup filled with water that goes back and forth like a pendulum. Look what he's doing here bouncing it and then a giving the COP. How many how many two four. Six eight hands look at that and it still goes into the water. Did do you only you can do that. Luck we try or do you think we just make too much of a mass in really make mom angry. Besides where would we hang up the spinning up right the swinging cup? That'd be far too difficult to do at our house. Maybe we'll have to find a new house houses. See if that's something that we can do. But that's still pretty amazing when you see what this guy's doing with the Ping Pong Ball. It's like beer pong but if you have to do a drink when it lands in the Green Water tank. There was also like the one clip in the background. The guy on the computer or watching. Tv or playing a video game not paying attention to the eighteen times the ping pong balls bouncing down the pots and pans and finally makes it into the glass. You just non sending back. They're like no big deal. I see this every day. Now this I think up located to watch you can see here swimming pool right. You can see here what appears to be a little kid and a ball in the pool. There also appears to be a person in the hot tub off to the side here and we're about to see is something that was being listed as Superhero Dad. Okay now we're GONNA see. This is a real superhero. Dad's controversial clip nonetheless. Let's roll it and see what happens here so you can hear people talking in the background. Little boys going after a ball in the pool and I would to be careful around the pool. Not because you can fall in the status jumps in to go save the little boy who fell into the water and then apparently the person in the hot tub kind of slowly makes their way over. But let's watch out again as the DAD jumps into the pool over. The fence doesn't even touch the fence. Ready go splash and he doesn't even touch that sense jumping into save a little boy now. Also this does he look like Superman. Jumping like that luck. Sure I think it's controversial in that. A real superhero. Dad Probably wouldn't let his kid hang out that close to the pool without any supervision at all and if that was a person in the hot tub that was supposed to be supervising. Big Time Fail. So It'd be a Superhero Dad. It could be alternately. Big Time Fail right right. Who LIKES FROZEN HERE? Who LIKES OLAF here? I'll do okay now. We know that frozen to just came out. La- last couple of months right like came out right around wasn't around Christmastime or something now. When did it come out? I think around lay Thanksgiving now. I think it was around this year. Did come on January no. I think it must've coming around Christmas. Here's the point Josh Gad. The actor does the Voice of Aloft is trapped at home. He's he's being home quarantined as well but he's got a microphone. He's got his voice. Olaf whipped and now he's Kinda script for a song. The Disney has just released. Let's watch the video. The goes to that song showy I am with you lose your sight words. Yeah Okay Watch looks a little lonely right. I leave you with this letter. I remove you with this song. I am with you when you laugh at something silly idea wrong cares about our where abouts. I'm hearing you are there and I K Trab less a brightness and not all right you're somewhere else and I can tell you how the notion that emotions you wanNA. I wish there was a look glass that we could each other's senior a with fish music with this rhyme. If you look just close your eyes in Giresse US I am wins and me you please deliver this hearts. How cool is that a lot again you dared. Is You like that a lot you see Josh Gad? The Voice of Olaf can do when he trapped in this corona virus world. Wasn't that's it for us? I'll let you watch it again as soon as we're done okay. We're done here the full we'll catch up with you guys tomorrow for Thursday until then see Make sure you do your homework until at least three friends about the Bauer show podcast station or start a whole new conversation at the our show facebook page facebook DOT COM SLASH. Bauer show and follow us on twitter up any time. The conversation is there twenty four seven on twitter at the Bauer show.

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Andrew Rossi on "After Truth," a new HBO documentary about the disinformation age

Reliable Sources with Brian Stelter

26:22 min | 11 months ago

Andrew Rossi on "After Truth," a new HBO documentary about the disinformation age

"Hey welcome to this week's reliable sources podcast on a week. That is anything but ordinary. I'm your host Brian. Stelter is all anybody's talking about and thinking about there's such a need for accurate reliable information at this moment in time. Especially in that makes the menace of disinformation. All the more important. You know we've been seeing this on social networks propaganda campaigns and profiteers promoting lies and hoaxes involving the pandemic trying to mislead people about the threat posed by the corona virus. It is shameful but thankfully there are lots of journalists out there fact checking correcting calling it out and I wanNA start a broader conversation about disinformation and the real life consequences. I mean that's what we're seeing right now with people who maybe didn't take this seriously enough information has been with us for years. It's going to be with us for many more years to come and it's the subject of a brand new documentary that I happened to be the executive producer up. So hey surprise surprise I i WanNa tell you all about it. it's an. Hbo Film Titled After Truth. In the director is Andrew Rossi. He really is the one that deserves all the credit. So I've asked him to sit down with me here and talk about the film and give you a preview Andrew. Great to see you great to see you. Brian and we are still talking in person here. Despite the virus threat we've maintained a proper distance. I think we were going to have a premiere of the film in New York and then it was going to be at south by southwest and we were going to go to Washington now. All those plans are off but thankfully people are going to watch this film for themselves. Thursday nine PM Eastern time on HBO and then on demand anytime through HBO. So the film's title. Andrew is after truth. Disinformation and the cost of fake news to me. The most important word in the title is cost. This is about the real life cost. What stories anecdotes show and tell that cost? It's true we we look at cost because there's so many different angles to attack the question of false news. One of the things that Brian we talked about in the beginning when we were developing the movie was that it's a war and it's amazing that several characters in the film who are actually propagators of false news frame. The whole conversation as chemical weapons and among media war But in that dynamic you have people who are pushing the false stories and then you have people who are the subject of them and are actually victims and they are suffering a cost. Yeah so what we thought would be the best way to tackle this topic in a way. That's not explicitly political but is instead something that people can sort of understand on a human level is to look at the victims and the cost that they have experienced So the film is tracking several case studies from two thousand fifteen to two thousand eighteen. Some of the most trenchant lies that have saturated the the environment and those include The jade helm conspiracy about a military exercise in two thousand fifteen in the southwest states the pizza conspiracy which surrounded a pizza restaurant in Washington. Dc And then the seth rich conspiracy which is about a DNC staffer who was murdered in the summer of two thousand sixteen and whose death was actually Twisted into some sort of plot about Hillary Clinton and others trying to kill him because he supposedly leaked the DNC emails to wikileaks. Yeah it's nothing. But people buy into these theories. They spread viral on social media. And what I think is so special about this film and look. I know I'm biased. I'm a producer but what I think is so special about this film. Is You actually see the people that these things we talk about so academically clinically or or people make fun of Pizza Gate? Okay you can mock it. It's crazy but a guy with a gun showed up comet pizza and until you see the body camera footage from the police and you see the the proprietor of the restaurant. Take you through the restaurant. Show you around you don't you. Don't get the real life cost. I don't I think that's right. I think many people have a passing recollection of pizza. Data's as sort of like fake news jumping the shark. It was a big story in the lead up to the election of two thousand sixteen and then the actual shooting took place in December so after the election everyone was reeling. But if you go back and you sort of look step by step by what happened there. You actually find that. This set of e mails from John. Podesta to James Fantas The the owner of Comet Ping Pong which which these emails were released in the document dump from wikileaks Those emails were decoded by people on Fortune and on read it to try and tease out. Some sort of meaning to cheese. Pizza wasn't but they. It's like staring at a blank page long enough. And you imagine something's there yet. It's a sort of classic playbook of how misinformation evolves because it starting something real which are those emails that of course we're not supposed to be released and then they get twisted but on the basis of prejudices and biases and that's really what we think is the human cost you look at Pizza Gate The the restaurant Comet Ping Pong. That's at the center of. It is a safe space for queer people. James Elephants the owner of Comet Ping Pong is a gay man and people went into his instagram account and into his other emails to try and connect his identity to this plot of a sort of pedophile child. Sex Trafficking Ring it's it's the most Sort of grotesque inflation of prejudices with the most dark. You know sort of emotional thing that people would get upset about and so in fact Edgar Madison welts. Who is the gunman who actually went up? There drove from North Carolina. Had his own feelings about his own children and wanted to save children but somehow by being inspired by Alex Jones went with a gun and threatened the lives of other people in his effort to try and save kid. Right right could could have really hurt a lot of people so so. That's one of the case studies that we have in this film. Let's let's tell people about our history in how we came together for this project About ten years ago you made a documentary called page one going inside the New York. Times looking at how the Times was adapting to the digital revolution sometimes struggling to do so other times exceeding David car is seen as the star of the film is the heart of the film page. One popped up along with some other. I used to say I was. You were a very big Brian. Supporting actor in the film page one and it was so natural for you. I I noticed you know within a week you were following me around the newsroom and Just you know. I didn't even notice you. Were there any more? In many ways. You embodied the disruptive force that David and the rest of the Times was trying to wrap their heads around. I remember David Commenting in the film that you were. Perhaps a robot built in the basement of the times to come and take his job away. The big question with page one was how the Times could navigate the downturn in print advertising and competition from digital sources and. I think you as somebody who had started a blog and had a a young take on information and news were seen as somebody who could breathe new life into the media desk So it's interesting because after truth in some ways is a sequel to page one. Because we're still talking about the importance of quality journalism and keeping it alive but the stakes are even huger now. Yeah they are. I love how in after truth people see inside the New York Times. Washington bureau so page one was mostly set in New York. Now you have a interviews with several different times reporters mostly in DC for this new film. So we've come full circle. I I've gone from being a subject of one of your films to working with you on this new film Tell people about how. Hbo You know how this started. Because it was like early twenties. Seventeen when I started talking with Richard Butler who was the head of HBO at the time about doing something some sort of project about media in the trump age misinformation and thank goodness very early on. I don't know if it was Richard or one of his deputies. Nancy or Lisa who said let's let's call Andrew Rossi well it and thank you for forgiving me a call because I think all of us in the documentary world were really trying to figure out. How do you tell the story about fake news? And about the erosion of truth in a way that doesn't give oxygen to the people who actually spread the allies So I know we went back and forth in many different iterations as to how to tell the story I think I we started with the big lie. This idea that fascist governments trying advance lies. And it's something you see in different forms of government actually even in the United States moments when The president and the government have advance stories for certain national security interests that are false and for one reason or another. We pivoted away from that and actually started looking at hate the rise in hate online and working with propublica and and thinking about ways that we could tell that story even up to Charlottesville and what happened there and then I guess vice did a great job telling that story. 'cause that's a connection between hate and misinformation of fake news and precise that are the it's like. What are the fuels of this fire? Yeah and I think all of that development really helped to inspire the approach to after truth because our antennas were really ready to catch. Some of those emotional appeals and again you C with The Pizza Gate Story. You see it. Also with the seth rich story with the Clinton Body Count Which is another really sticky. Lie about the. Clintons being part of this deep state and it plays on so many fears That are again emotional nature. They really really are So throughout Twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. You're interviewing the the people that make up the backbone of this film who are who are some of the subjects Of this film that that are important that that stand out to most will for sure. It's James Elephants took a lot of courage to revisit the story to talk to us. Aaron rich he gets all the interview requests and usually turns them down and even more so Aaron. Rich poor brother of seth rich has done practically nothing in terms of all those TV univer requests. It's true he hasn't he did. Speak to Michael ISIKOFF. I think by phone for his really fantastic podcast with all the great skulduggery But I believe that this is the first time. He's spoken on television. Since you know weeks after Seth Passed away so I you know the reason why those are so important. Is that these human testimonies there. These really personal stories that when you see them communicating them. I think you know even people who might believe the the. The fake news conspiracies or have an ambient awareness of them and they sort of cynically think they might be true. You see these people in mode on screen and it kind of breaks the bubble that a person can have when they're on social media you know swiping through fake stories it. I I really appreciate that. Both James and Aaron. Talk to us that being said I think there's also pretty spectacular material from Jack Berkman and Jacob Wall who are some of the the liars and chief. Yeah let's talk about them that Osborn by the way I got the name of the PODCASTS. Wrong it's Skulduggery is the podcast. the one involving the seth rich story is a conspiracy land. Excellent short foreign podcast. So we're not about the victims of fake news and certainly Erin Richards a victim of fake news but you also profile the perpetrators. That's where Berkman comes in. Jacob Wall comes in you know these these people who see as advantageous to spread misinformation. I mean that's where we get back to the initial concern about giving oxygen to people that I think. Many documentary filmmakers feared what I felt about the way that we captured this particular plot by Jack. Berkman and Jacob Wall is that because we're doing verite documentary filmmaking which is basically observational. We put a mic on Jack. Berkman End Jacob Wall and just let them do their thing We're able to see them. In real time spinning the lies and then in the context of a press conference where journalists like Oliver Darcy will summer and Adam Goldman from the New York Times are pushing back and literally fact checking them in in the moment and so I think that provides some interesting Evidence for for how these lies get spun and how these people operate but it very quickly tries to debunk it. And and Cast these characters for who they are which are liars right right Let's talk more about Some of the different sequences in the film after a quick break here on reliable sources podcast. Now we're talking about after truth our new. Hbo Film Premieres on Thursday March nineteenth and nine pm eastern time on HBO More With Andrew. Rossi in just a moment everyone poppy harlow here this week on CNN's boss files podcast we sit down with WNBA commissioner. Cathy Engelbert. She is the first woman to hold that title. Commissioner of the WNBA moved empowers women in professional sports. She opens up about her personal relationship Kobe Bryant and what he and his thirteen year old daughter. Gina meant for the future of women's basketball. We also get into the tough negotiations around the new collective bargaining agreement that has left players with higher salaries and paid family leave. She says players in the League are activists and take a stand on social issues. And then wait until you hear the story about her father and why he turned down an opportunity to play in the NBA. I hope you check it out. Subscribe to boss bows today. The wait is over coming to H. L. ED. All new episodes of forensic files follow the evidence and crack the case forensic files to Sundays at ten. Only on H. L. Ed. Hey welcome back to the reliable sources. Podcast I'm your host Brian stelter talking with Andrew Rossi who I've been working with on this new. Hbo Film on After Truth. Crosses the director of the film. And we're talking here in New York A few days ahead of its world premiere on television Thursday march nineteenth nine. Pm Eastern time on HBO so enter. We're sitting on this reliable sources set where I've had these debates with people about Alex Jones whether to pay attention to Alex Jones and whether he should have a platform on social media and he comes up a couple of times in our film after truth You see him Spreading misinformation confronting. Cnn's Oliver Darcy and trying to attack. Oliver why do you think it was important to include Alex Jones in the story? You know I have to say when we first started working on the film after truth. I remember being in our office. with my co producer. Adam McGill and actually my frequent collaborator and wife. Kate Novak And we were talking about this topic and we searched your name Brian on Youtube and one of the first clips. That came up. Was this this this clip of Alex Jones about me Attacking you in calling you. An enemy of the people drink children's blood. Yeah I it was. It was the most sort of disturbing and sort of like I can't believe this is on Youtube type of moment. Fast forward I guess about maybe sixteen months Adamant I were watching the livestream on periscope of Jack Dorsey testifying before Congress about twitter policies and Alex Jones was protesting there because he had already been deployed for by Apple. And he goes on this this rant this attack Berating Oliver Darcy the CNN media reporter and starts talking about his his physical features in in a way that was so threatening and also so vile like he had done to you on on on Youtube that it just it really crystallized again these these themes of hatred and demonizing group and then spinning lies. And so we knew that Alex Jones at Eh somebody who has told lies about the Sandy Hook families the pizza conspiracy. He literally is involved in each one of our case studies. Jade Helm and the South Ridge conspiracy that in a way the way that the the the corporations the platforms and the environment would respond to him would would signal a path forward and so in fact we see Alex Jones Platform by the end of the film. And it's it's it's kind of a climax you know. Alex Jones is based in Austin Texas. One thing that I'm I'm proud of you know about this film and again if for some reason didn't hear the first half I'm an executive producer of the films. I've got some heart in this is it's not just about New York and DC. In fact it's really not about New York and DC. This film starts in Texas and basically ends in Texas. You see stories from across the country from red and blue states to this is real and it's not just you know a conversation about facebook headquarters. I mean that's factor. What happens to facebook and twitter matters? But Sodas what happens in you know in Texas L. Country? It's such a good point. We filmed at a trump rally in Houston where one of the trump supporters says to us that you know CNN is in the dumper he doesn't trust CNN but that also donald trump is protecting his culture. This is literally what he says and that he understands. The politicians can play fast and loose with the truth but he. Donald Trump is trying to protect his way of life. And so you see that. The cultural divide is is is just critical to fake news. False stories Surviving and unfortunately they become a device that a tactic to protect one side for another. You know I interested in a lot of movies that and subjects that get us access to different subjects. The New York Times was one with with the film page one. I've looked at other institutions and initially. There was a thought. Should we try and get access to facebook but I think like do it from the inside out I I? I think this is one of cases where seeing the human cost talking to individuals who are not necessarily famous who don't have a big brand around them and don't they're not a draw that way that for theatrical film you might want that proved to be so much more productive than sort of playing the access dance with an institution like facebook or Google or others. The access dance. Let's put it. Yeah that's funny Tell me a little bit about the filmmaking process. Because you're early on I never been involved. You know trying to help out you know with. Hbo Like this. The way I did for this so early on. I remember you saying to me and I'M GONNA paraphrase and be blunter than you were Brian. You can't beat the interviews because it's going to affect the interviews there's a CNN guy. In the room some people are going to react differently. And I thought that was so and I realize we're right and that was so interesting. But it makes me wonder about your strategy for how you coax things out of people how you feel comfortable and how you share in ways that you know people don't always share cable news or or in a telephone interview so tell me about the interviewing process absolutely well you know. I think particularly in a case like the pizza story you know. We were very appreciative. To get access to film it Comet Ping Pong but the sort of the the scope of that access was going to be just about an hour shooting and then perhaps an interview and you feel comfortable. Well that turned into two days of shooting at the restaurant and getting to know the staff and making them feel comfortable. I mean I think this. Is You know when we were shooting at the time. The same thing when we first started When I first started shooting you because I was there myself you know I think you were. Maybe not sure whether to trust me and kind of where I was coming from. It was similar to that it takes. It takes a minute but I think also the staff at at Comet Ping Pong are even more at a heightened level of of of a fear but I was really proud of our crew which is actually pretty small. Brian Sarkin in is our cinematographer Again Atta mcgilla. My Co producer also shoots and me and it's just the three of us And we really try and get to know people and so then when we sat down with James Elephant is the owner on the second day. That we were Down I spoke to him from the heart and he really was ready to to talk to us in a way that you know. He cries several times and he gave a three hour conversation. Yeah he really does pour his heart out to you. He doesn't and I think he was ready to do it. He hasn't talked to a lot of other people. But it's also hopefully a reflection of our footprint whether I'm working by myself or again with just the the small band of of folks that we have Working on this film. It's all about connecting with people and representing our our ethics in our values in a way that makes people feel comfortable to share. So as I mentioned I've been plugging away. The film premieres Thursday at nine PM Eastern time on HBO You get to see the victims as well as the perpetrators and the investigators of these disinformation campaigns. 'cause WE GOTTA get a shout out to the to the reporters Craig Silverman's or the the will summers off from your interview about sleuthing. And finding this molly mccue David Folkenflik and many others Elizabeth Williamson as well. Who's reported on Alex Jones David Folkenflik from NPR? And you know and you are there in spirit also Brian. I think every day that you're doing the reliable sources show every Sunday that that it's it's it's fact checking in real time the messages that are coming at us and I think it's it's such a political stew right now that to make a film in defense of journalism is difficult but ultimately that is the subtext whether it is journalists or other experts or authority figures. We need to come together. And and understand the importance of objective fact based conversation discourse information sources and. It's almost like we need to renew the social pact and then agrees that facts are are the way that we should govern our life. Renew the social pact at a time. When we're talking about this Hannah's virus and social distancing the notion that we all have something in common something that we've got to work together on the at the forefront right now but it also applies this is is this issue of how healthy are information. Ecosystem is and whether people can trust each other and trust the sources they have. Are We after truth? Are we post truth? It's it's a terrible thing to contemplate but there really is an erosion of of truth. There there is. There is a a disturbing indulgence of the idea that we are and that in of itself I think is sort of after truth interesting. Yeah all the talk about. Being post truth is And and that's up the problem. Th that's been indulged it even just the conversation but but I think we can get back to it. I think that it's conversations like the ones that this film Provokes that we have in our schools. You know there's incredible work that's being done by media literacy groups like the one that Alan Miller is is directing and that we find in different pockets of of the of the culture that needs to be supported him all right so andrew give us the final plug tell people went over to watch final plug march nineteenth this coming Thursday at nine pm. The film will be broadcast but it will be available on demand ON HBO. Go and police tune in and share with with your friends and family and let us know what you thought. Afterwards Andrew. Where can people find you? How can they get in touch? I met On on twitter mostly and the handle is at a underscore ro SSI Andrew Rossi a underscore Rossi And also on. My website is Abstract PRODUCTIONS THAT'S OUR PRODUCTION COMPANY. And you can find us all there. That's right Enter thanks so much such a thrill doing this. But they'll thank you Brian for for all of your amazing leadership and guidance in making this film We couldn't have done it without you and it's been a pleasure to collaborate. I tell you there's So much news that I do five minutes time or newsletter form or on CNN dot com article But when you can take an hour and a half and put all this together is it is quite something after truth. Disinformation than the cost of fake news. Google it or look on. Hbo Dot Com and watch it on demand after it's TV Puma on Thursday night. Thanks for joining us on this week's reliable sources podcast policy on television this Sunday and every Sunday at eleven am eastern time at least.

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#1218 I Don't Think Ping Pong Is The Answer

"Thanks for listening to the atom and Dr Drew Show on podcast one. Well spill can corners How you came up with that one never know but I knew exactly what? You're talking about the majesty. The Ace man is it still spill Garrett can try to look up spilling coroners at Knott's Berry Farm. You have to stay with us to know why this is such a heated topic for us but first lifelock everyone over twenty six million people that have their DNA in the four major testing provider databases. They're vulnerable like any company. DNA Info could be targeted for hackers to sell say on the dark web. You need to understand how cybercrime arbor crime is affecting our live identity theft. Of course another serious issue. Someone's identity stolen. Get this every two seconds you could miss identity threats. 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You're listening to the Adam and Dr drew show. Yeah get it on that. That dude is Algebra is mad specialized you man when a thank our sponsors for the show. Net Sweet Tommy. John lifelock flock is. Well what's going on risky so we were going to continue our conversation about spilling coroner's so-called And what that the form of it in the Henry. Ford's Day was to hearken back to center the eighteen sixties Bo would spill if we were to create a environment that took into account the current Technological revolutions. How would we do? Would it be an eighteen sixties. Version of America would have been eight nineteen fifties version. You know what I mean how. How would we create that? Even and how would we sustain it because horses sort of so to speak out of the barn. Yeah Just to recap Henry Ford had kind of an old timey town he built on. I don't know how many acres Gary but it was lots of acres and He wanted to show people what that life was like back in the day before technology that he writ large created right he contributed needed to at least well. I think there's a lot of that in human beings. I think they do tend to do that. I think they tend to create the you know they. They the the Nobel Peace Prize and they know if the guy invented dynamite. Right alright they they tend to become a invent an atom bomb and then they become a a passive like there's a lot of that in life and human wiring. Yes before it had a little of that clearly now. I think nope what they have tried to do today. It's twelve acres. But at its height it must have been hundreds of acres thousands of acres occurs. But what I think these companies like Google or whomever have attempted to do and I noticed it. A little like Pixar is I think what they had attempted to do was put it all under one roof so we you will now have people coding but they can play foosball when they want which we thought was A. We've looked that is sort of a remedy for sitting and staring at a computer all day. Every three hours you could stand up and play ping pong and play ping pong which it's not gonNA hurt. No and it's probably better than sitting there for nine hours and never leaving your cubicle. But I don't think ping pong is the answer. Yeah it's interesting. It's weird metaphor. Because Pong was the original technological move around now in order to restore restore connection to reality reality we give you ping pong right that weird. Yeah so I mean we give foosball. We'll give you ping pong hackensack the hacky sack. Or maybe we give you a Frisbee Frisbee outside but my my point is not living a certain life. Certainly you're GONNA have to get a little more into nature chair. Then a mezzanine with a ping pong table is it sufficient to take walks and listen to music or do we have to. I don't know my feeling feeling is if you're breaking a sweat that's a good thing. I agree with that number one number one. Break a sweat number to have some engagement right. I think that's exactly that's exactly what I was thinking. which is that the one thing? The screen has done is removed us from from human connection down the piece that is really really missing right right and so maybe not ping pong but maybe coffee sitting and talking with somebody. I'm not sure asked. Doing both is necessarily good. Go ahead and take your walks and run but then focus on another person for a few minutes. Well there's there's two types of engagement. There's an engagement that is a personal having coffee engagement. And then there's an engagement of a project or a task I would also add that. What's fascinating about what the construct you've created here? which is that? It's all under one roof. And it's Ping Pong foosball. That's engagement for a seventeen year old male right. That's how Jill males engage the model for humanity right not the model offer deep engagement right. Think about how regressive their idea was right. Yeah it's interesting. Yeah so I think what they I sort of thought is yeah have fun have fun activities activities and many women. Don't dig that some do and be a twenty five year old males. Don't so much I mean. If that's the option they'll take it but you also have to understand that the thirty-three-year-old coders it it. Google are seventeen year old man. That is my point that is certainly the leadership there. Is that look how they dress right. Well that's their constituency. You either way you're going to have to the things that will the things that will make sure you of. This is sweat ed or movement. It can be synthesized. You'd be on a rowing machine or on a treadmill or something not as good as a hike but but but since but sweat sweat engagement engagement challenging engagement. Is that sort of onto something there. Well yeah I will I will. I will mix and I I will take all three of these pillars and turn them into something which is which is this magic trick that the thing that will keep you from Cutting on your own inner thigh and scratching on yourself and going insane is movement sweat engagement human being goal project project engagement fix problem solving right now like writing a book now builds on. No No. No what would do all all three is when you have a crew and you're saying you do this. You do that. We need to do this. We're we're GONNA figure this out we're GONNA solve this. I'M GONNA have this list. My list is all the stuff we need. I have to keep you going. You have to keep that guy going. Tell so and so to do whatever I'll tell you to do so and so I'm GonNa come back and do whatever phys I will physically do some of it but I will also move with it in in move with you and engage with you. You tell me your ideas what you think we should do. That will cover. You can check like all three boxes and the sanity department. There you can move you can sweat. You can engage in you can problem solve sort of simultaneously so we all know. No just the little. I know from like doing celebrity apprentice. You know they go Here's your here's your challenge. You got up sell this car. You GotTa See who sells The Most Deli sandwiches or you have to whatever they give you that the challenge you then convene to your war room and you roundtable and who's in charge. Wh How do they delegate. WHO's good at? What what your skill set? What are we going to do? What are some ideas? What's a slogan? What's the Color Palette? Who Do you know What you know publa- no one ever sits in the corner and goes? I'm a little bummed out. I'm not feeling it no never ever ever. Everyone's at battle stations in other words you're on the clocks think of you in clay just mean clay. I'm a little claiming that guy. I've thoroughly impressed by that guy and I thought we when you get with him. Personally the smarts pours out of him. Yeah I don't see it on television but in space when you're right next to him it's like comes out with pores. Yeah Super Super Super Intelligent Guy and hardworking and so my I feel like in that environment. Nobody's leaning against the mop and resting and nobody sitting off in the corner needing some me time there's no microaggressions and nobody's feeling in their heart of hearts just sort of battle stations against against the clock. Now Look it's not real battle stations it's pretend. TV battle stations. But that's all you need right you've simulated it. Even if it was a pretend rowing machine all or in the water rowing right you still rolling together right and so you're immediately engaged and I don't think if there was ever a period in that time when I was doing celebrity apprentice where anybody said like I'm not feeling today day or I'm going to be over here or you don't understand I'm going through something triggered triggered I can't Baba Blah. No no everyone's just sort of up and running. Yeah and that's what happens when you don't let the devil make work for idle hands. And that's a very victor statement. Yeah so if you synthesize that engagement if you have that project if you're involved with that group group and have that whatever it be anything and by the way you were off the phones you got to be engaged enough to the phone doesn't distract you. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. Our winters are certainly not again. Yesterday we were talking about a woman that worked up a big bear in the red jacket. 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ADS SETUP THAT FREE DEMO get get your free guide today net sweet dot com slash ads. I mean this is what you should do man. If you're running a business the way to do it net sweet dot com slash Shadia. So Henry Ford is we spoke about. I think sort of knew this on some sort of Cellular level yeah and created this stuff. Well this engagement the the nets this. That's we'd add triggered something else in my. Can I bring it up a different thing ahead. I don't know if you saw. EEOC the about five days ago. Maybe not even that long ago was talking about the fact that the stock market has been on a tear. And that's horrible. And that's the problem with America and that's the difference between people with money and people without and I thought people retirement retirement plans and labor unions and people that by the way and all that growth in those companies means it translates to jobs the only thing we got wrong so as far as it hasn't CIA translated to salary growth. That's what we need to like. See some of and that's starting to happen maybe again. That's a problem. Well let me but how are are you GONNA do Hillary growth without business growth on that note. There is a McDonald's and I brought this up before I think when I was in San Francisco and I was walking down the wharf street and pass the in and out Burger. I think it said fifteen fifteen dollars an hour or possibly eighteen dollars. I think they're set at fifteen at the medicine. Eighteen it was above whatever the minimum was the requirement was because they need people. That's what demand creates the price increase. Yeah I was like. She doesn't understand basic think economics would wants to pretend it doesn't happen or wants to remind and I was. I was An Omega when you and I were killed eighteen dollars an hour for working for aw Burger Badgen. I was I went on a McDonald's run for some of my guys Two weeks ago at my house by the McDonald's by my house and that'd be a sign hanging out and said fourteen bucks an hour and you know that ain't in San Francisco on on the water. That's just the middle of the valley. Kind of thing. They wherever that whatever neighborhood man however that works. It Ain't attracting people for nine bucks an hour. You GotTa pay him and I read somebody somewhere. Somebody tweeted me. Me that Takhot Bell I think I think somebody tweeted me if thing because it was like Taco Bell Your Toco bell material or whatever it was but tree thing says You make a hundred grand is a manager managing Taco bell and while that's like average income for internist general practitioner TACO bell will try paying some managers thousand dollars a year. Sixty two thousand But in and out pays oh they're already pays one sixty two some. Wow you know you can't wonder no one wants to go into medicine and everything has to do with. I'm just saying I'm looking at it from my perspective. I'm worrying about my professional the time and now I get it well. Well here's the problem. Here's the problem the AFC problem and I've been around. I've seen Ettelaat because your family i. It's I've seen it it is. It's a Lotta this chick think and it's like a lot of like I don't like these fossil fuel companies. I don't think they should be allowed to bub-bubba I don't think and it's like you never look Those shoes you're wearing right now. You ordered on Amazon and they were shipped across the country on a diesel truck. You know like that that plane you fly like all this stuff. I'm not sounding sound like one of those people but I'm saying is let's not be so naive and just go. Let's get rid of these fossils. Fossil fuel built this nation. Okay let's look at ways to curtail or let's see if we can get them to start be part of the solution or or whatever it is but let's not just be angry. I angry at so-and-so trading so and so you live in a world that has air conditioning. That's a big deal. This is metals that are taken from the ground. This is mining this manufacturing and there's there's a byproduct of manufacturing there's pollution and there's lots the things that that happen and there's byproducts of energy this sort of this this notion let them eat cake kind of thing like I just have a I will not. It's a very it's an adolescent way of doing things. The cell the seventeen year old stuff right seems seems to be the thing right now. Yes it's like. Oh I'm angry at my step dad because he got me a camera and not a BMW. It's like okay. Let's really drill down on your Stepdad. Right and what he does and what he's had to do and where he started and where he got to. And what what he had did anyone by him a camry emory growing up like this really instead of just waving your hand and announcing he's a bad guy and you're angry let's really break get down like yes The people who are making money off the you know the big corporations or whatever they were big in them which which means they have employees which means they generate a lot of income for a lot of people and or and or tax tax revenue for the government as well like flippantly sweeper hand ago so and so's evil. GM is evil no no GM is just GM. There's things about them we. We'd like them to do better things we wouldn't we'd like to do more of things we'd like to do less up. It's just a sort sort of. We don't need these failing. The blind went away. How many jobs would that mean? We'll hundreds and hundreds of thousands right people corporations big big and small create jobs. And that this thing that you want this middle class last that you speak of. GM employee approximately one hundred and eighty thousand people so says the Internet and many of those people. Most of those people are in the middle class. And I'm sure there's a whole group of retired people dependent on them to another hundred eighty eight thousand right so you don't like them because they make a product that pollutes or whatever it is okay. There probably make a lot of equipment that goes into hospitals that works on Prenatal and saves lives as well. Let's just throw it all out. The you know what I mean that is that is the interesting we think notion. Let's get rid of that right. The throwing the baby out with the bathwater is something I find myself thinking about all the time. There's a lot of gotta gotTa do this. You know and and everything goes including all the good things that could have come at their undoing right. I mean we gotta get rid of jails. Oh good well well now whatever we we were going to build one with the whole hospital attached to it. What are those people supposed to do? We're figuring out. Well it's also the sort sort of thing where there is. Nothing inherently unjust pardon the Pun or evil about a jail. There's there's nothing inherently unjust are evil about a big corporation. It's how the corporation function. Yeah what what do you do. It is is jailed good or bad. We'll jails aren't good or bad it's who's in the jail. How did they get to that jail? Why are there in that Jim how they've been treated video how they're being treated in jail that the answer is get rid of jails? The answer is let's make sure we get it right in terms of WHO's going in and who's staying power our. They're being how they're being treated correct. That's the throwing the baby out the bath. Water stuff that I've been preoccupied with lately. It's been weird California. That's their deal. While just undoing doing everything California does a reverse engineering. That is the worst reverse engineering in the world. It is my again. It's my in. This car won't go faster than forty miles. An hour will then bust the glass. Put your finger on the Speedo and move at sixty five and say they're putting the finger on the scale. Always Stu many suspensions at school. Then stop doing suspensions at school. There's too many people in prison prison. Then let them out. There's if stealing something that costs five hundred dollars a felony then raises two thousand. Half half the felons this notion we're California zone and the rest of the country doesn't know what's going on here is is Biz bizarre it out. Obviously all the does exacerbate everything you need to figure out. Why Hi this cars topping out at forty not moved the speedometer that that just means less time and less resources into why hi? This car isn't moving and more into move satiated moving. Forget honesty. Oh Yeah Yeah and it doesn't work. God they just had the story story in I think Eric and find it. Out of San Francisco Guy like rob three banks and three days and they just let him out in robbed a fourth like but he can do he took probably less than a thousand dollars each time. So it's not a felony David. Thirty four Fontana lifetime percent. What's up it's up so I got a four year old son and my wife was swing as I noticed he he was put aside hurt himself a little bit let scratching himself? So we're trying to see something that we should it'd be worried about. Is it just growing up. What concern about this? Tell me more what he's doing exactly so the first time he did it. You know I was assigned down. He had his pencil and nothing by himself. Kinda say in writing on very crying on looks like he your pencil into his hands because you took something away from from him no I think like he was. Maybe he didn't realize shocker was my thought But like maybe he tried to write on the Polish. And we're we're having trouble. I'm having trouble getting at what you're describing well because one time you say he's he's jagged Pinhas had that it's like oh no. He was just riding on his hand and pushed too hard right right. That's what I that's what I thought he was doing. I thought he was. Maybe just trying to draw his hands ready ended up like jabbing his hand. Because was he up so much of communicating. Yes yes indeed. Look obviously it's a mistake. Then that's a mistake. There's nothing Scott. He's intentionally only trying to hurt himself. And that's that's an issue but you can't just keep going. I thought he was doing that and I thought it was doing this now. I thought he's done that. It let me speak Nick to David was he doing it. was He hurting himself intentionally. Yes or no no no that time all right so now so he never does that. So why would you bring it up as an example if he wasn't trying to hurt himself that time Christy my wife. That was the start of something that he's Like behavior that he started showing so I've us a time where the Everson Everson example where he did it intentionally. I'm only time he was sitting down. There were at lunch and he's he's scratched himself because he was angry. Okay where did you scratch himself on his hands. So he just sorta like was digging his his nails into his hands. Yes all right. You should talk to his pediatrician. I I don't know that I would necessarily get alarmed about this again. He you can't regulate and kids kids move towards primitive ways to try to feel better and regulate express their anger and whatnot. Kids will even hit head their head and to hold there breath so I don't know what to make of this just yet but you should discuss with his pediatrician. Okay we'll do just want to know if there was any considering well. I talked to. The Pediatrician Kids David. If there was no concern I wouldn't tell you. To Talk to the media attrition. Okay how are you and your wife doing at houses home. We're good I mean I'm I'm away from home for work often anyways you know we'd be whenever I bohm in your way your way from home doing what I working you three months three weeks out of the month. What business are you in? What works on On what Cessnas. So you're you're GonNa hold on do you. Do I work on Tesla. Tesla Tesla Tesla so you three weeks out of every month so the child is GonNa feel. Oh that that's a lot of absence a lot of absence. What are you doing on Tesla? I'm a technician just fixing cars when they come now with that Super Roadster if I knew I would tell you. Yeah then says we're. I'm always interested arrested in how people respond to things their questions. You know what I mean like because it's so funny go. Where are you Jay? Tessa what they also when you go what they don't really change their what they said like you have to understand. Tesla's US something we've heard of but in a vacuum it's kind of weird. You know what I mean like when you go what do you do. You wouldn't go norge uh-huh go. I do refrigerator repair. Yeah you wouldn't go norge. Yeah you could say Boeing generically what you do. Yeah not just put out a company you describe. What do you do mountain dew like okay okay? Something with mountain dew. Now I have to keep doing what I'm saying. Is this whole process of the defendant. The processes like I'm gone three weeks out of the month. Why why what do you do? I work at a facility. That's two hundred miles from my house. We repair automobiles and so I stayed whatever whatever that is. I don't know what is it. We used to deal with a love line a lot like the people. You're constantly asking a second question Russian. What's going on all right? Let me tell you about. I'll tell you about this guy in Stockton and robbed all these banks. I will say about. Tommy John Tommy John. They don't give an f they give three FS fabric fit and function proprietary fabrics or perform. 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In June two thousand nineteen for robbing six banks in two thousand thousand twelve now being charged with robbing two more banks in September so it turns out it turns out that there is a very small group of human beings. If you really think about it think about what it would take for you you or your kids or someone you know to rob a bank move. I mean unthinkable impossible and think about what it would take for you or somebody you know to stab somebody or to just be walking down on the street. Bus someone's window sort of like crawl in through the window and grabs up. What would that take? You have to have happened to that or your kids. Just they'd have. Let's get strung out on. Are you capable. Are they capable. Do you know anyone who's capable of doing it. So is it turns out. There's a very small group group of our society that are capable of putting their hands on a stranger or robbing a bank or or doing. What have you to you do? It's essentially like domestic battery. It sounds unthinkable for you to put your hands on your wife bright but for the guys who do it. It's not one and done. Oh it's a thing it's a thank you and I would argue that when it comes to crime time putting your hands on somebody stabbing someone punching somebody hurting somebody stealing someone's property it's not one and done either with the only do what are you. There's a king attics. But that's not one and done either. That's however long you're right wrong out that's right so my point is once a guy rob six banks thanks Assume there's a seventh in his future and assume they're zero in your future because it's you're either either can do it or you can't do it and and you can either Physically assault somebody domestic. Is there any such thing as one in done with a domestic abuse situation patience no no and if it is one don it's a he said. She said she was swinging at him. He pushed her away. She fell down in but it's not a physically elite ball up a fist punch. 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It's All Relative

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It's All Relative

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I'm an executive producer with iheartradio and a love, all things tech, and in our last episode I explained how communications satellites send information via radio waves, which is why we talked about signals from such things in terms like hurts. Hurts unit refers to the number of repeated phenomena over the course of a second, so imagine that you're dribbling a basketball so that the ball goes from your hand to the ground backup to your hand once per second well, you could describe your dribbling as being one hurts in frequency, one full cycle per second up. Up Now. If you dribbled twice as fast so that the ball went up down up to full times per second, then there would be too hertz well. We can describe lots of stuff with the unit hurts. We use it to describe sounds in which case we're talking about. The frequency at which stuff vibrates. Typical human hearing spans a range of frequencies that at the low end is at twenty hurts. That represents the lowest pitches of sounds, those deep bass notes that's around the twenty hertz of area and then it goes all the way up to twenty kilohertz or twenty thousand Hertz, that represents the very highest pitches that people can typically here, and those frequencies correlate to how quickly stuff is vibrating back and forth now when it comes to us hearing things, we usually mean that we're talking about the vibrations and fluctuation in air pressure, and those fluctuations in air pressure interact with our eardrums. But we can use hurts to talk about all sorts of stuff including the processor speed of a CPU. In that case, we're really talking about the number of clock cycles per second, so you get it. This is a description of the frequency of the number of times. A certain thing happens like within a second and I also explained that we measure the rate at which we can send data using the term bits. A bit is a basic unit of digital information, and when we talk about computers were talking about bits in the form of a zero or a one binary information. Just like your basic to way. Physical switch has two positions off or on so if If, you hear a term like kill a bit that means one thousand bits, and megabit is one million bits, and a gigabit would be one billion bits likewise, megabits per second tells us how many million bits can move from one point to another per second over that connection, so if you've got a one hundred megabits per second connection, theoretically, it would mean that up to one hundred million bits can transfer across that communication channel per second, though that's not how it works out most of the time, but that's a matter for a different episode. I didn't mention that this is different from something like megabytes, so a bite is a unit that consists of eight bits. And this gets confusing because we often described stuff like file sizes in terms of bites, but transfer speeds in terms of bits, so let's say that you do have that. One hundred megabits per second download speed, and you want to download a one hundred megabyte file will that means it's not going to take one second. It's GonNa. Take eight seconds to download the file because a megabyte is eight times larger than a mega bit and actually even that is a little bit misleading. Misleading because in computer memory terms, we typically look at units of memory based on powers of two rather than powers of ten, so instead of a kilobytes being one thousand bytes. It's actually one thousand twenty four bites, and there's no standardization in the tech industry so sometimes people will say kilobytes, and they mean one thousand bytes sometimes they'll say kilobytes, and they mean one thousand twenty four bites, and you will want to tear your hair out, and then you'll look like I do. I'm bald if you didn't know, but this episode isn't about the peculiarities of our naming conventions in the computer information age instead I wanted to tackle something else. That affects everything really, but in particular. We really had to Suss it out. In order to make certain types of satellites work properly, and this is the concept of relativity so in this episode. We're really going to learn why and understanding of relativity is important if we want our certain satellite technologies to work. Work and it serves as a great reminder that technology is only really possible through an understanding of science you can think of tech as the physical manifestation of our understanding of scientific principles, and that means if we were wrong in our understanding of science, technology shouldn't really work so in the way you can think of technology that works as evidence that the scientific method is a darn good formula. Since we're talking about, relativity means we're GONNA. Be Talking about R real. Today his name was Einstein which is convenient, but before we get to Einstein, we have. Galileo Galileo Galileo Figaro. Wait No, I'm sorry that's Bohemian. RHAPSODY I meant. Galileo Gallo lay this Galileo made an observation that if you've got to observers moving at a constant speed and direction, so they're moving at the same velocity, they will get the same results for any experiment that involves stuff around a mechanical experiment. This is easier to understand if we use an example and I like one that my colleague Robert Lamb used when he wrote about relativity for how stuff works dot com back in the day he used. Used an example of a train and A. Scientific Ping Pong. Ball Art. So imagine you've got a scientist who standing in the middle of an aisle on a moving train, and the train is moving at a steady speed in a straight line, so there are no active forces of acceleration. Going on here remember acceleration describes a force that involves a change in velocity. The other means a change in direction or a change in speed or both, but in this case constant speed constant direction Robert used nice round numbers in his example, so he suggested that the train is moving at one hundred miles per hour. Well, it's not round if we go to the metric system that would be one hundred sixty one kilometers per hour. If the train stays steady to the scientist, it will feel as if that scientists is actually just standing still just anywhere, and we're conveniently ignoring an emotion that would happen due to irregularities with the train's wheels or the train tracks or anything like that, and if this is hard for. For you to imagine just think about how you feel when you're standing still or sitting still or laying down here on earth, we know the earth is moving through space. It is a body in motion, but when we are still relative to the earth itself. We don't feel that motion. Assuming there's not some other weird event going on like an earthquake, which is something separate, but back to our hypothetical. Hypothetical train, the scientists tosses the Ping Pong ball down the aisle. Now from the scientists perspective this Ping Pong Ball will travel at whatever speed they threw it at Robert, actually suggests a relatively gentle toss of five miles per hour or eight kilometers per hour. The Ping Pong Ball would bounce down the aisle just as it would. If the scientists were to toss the ball on a train that isn't. Isn't moving at all or on just flat ground. However, let's say we have a second observer. WHO's not on the train? They're standing off to the side and they can see through the train to this person. It will appear as if the Ping Pong ball is moving very fast indeed relative to this stationary observer, the Ping Pong. Ball will appear to move at the speed at which it was thrown. In addition to the speed of the train itself, so if we take the two figures, we get one hundred five miles per hour or one hundred sixty nine kilometers per hour. This is called Galileo on transformation alternatively, if the scientists were throwing the ping pong ball in the opposite direction of the trains travel so there facing towards the back of the train, it would appear to the second observer. The Ping Pong ball was moving at a slower speed than the overall train was whereas to the scientists on board. The Ping Pong ball would still be traveling. Traveling at that five mile per hour speed, so this is where the term relativity comes into play. The effects observed are relative to the perspective of the Observer. It's all by based on the reference frame of that observer. If you're on the train, then you're just looking at a ping pong ball bouncing at a relatively slow speed down the aisle. If you're not on the train the ping, Pong, ball is moving quite fast, so it's all relative Isaac. Newton would follow along and say yeah. May, this old tracks, I don't know I, talk like that. In his laws of Motion Newton stated that these laws of motion should hold in an inertial frame as well as reference frame that was moving at a constant velocity, relative to the inertial frame and inertial frame by the way is just a frame of reference, in which there are zero net forces acting upon it so that there are no forces of acceleration in play, so in our example. The train that we talked about that would be our initial frame. All of this is fairly intuitive, but then we get to something really tricky Einstein would establish that these speed of light in vacuum is the fastest speed in our universe. Nothing can go faster than that, but hey, what if you're on a train? That's traveling one hundred miles per hour and facing forward facing the direction of travel, and then you have a flashlight and you turn on the flashlight. Well doesn't mean you should perform a Galilea transformation on this and say the light from that flashlight in your hands is actually travelling at the normal speed of light on board the train, but also get that boost of the trains travel, so it should be the speed of light plus one hundred miles per hour. Doesn't that make sense bowl? According to actual experiments performed before Einstein would come around to explain things the answer was. Not done the like it works that way. Scientists Edward Morley and Albert a Mickelson created an experiment to measure the speed of light back in eighteen, eighty seven, and actually they were looking for for something else. They were looking for evidence of a hypothetical substance called luminous. Ether. Saywhat. All right, we'll stick with me because. In a way, this does make sense okay, so on earth we see waves traveling through a medium right like if you look out in the ocean, you can see actual waves in the water, and the water is a physical medium through which these waves travel sound can't travel in space because space is effectively a vacuum, the particles that are in space are so far apart from one another then there's no way for the vibration of one particle to come into contact an effect. Another particle sound can't travel sound travels through the propagation of vibrational waves, and if your stuff isn't in contact with each other, there's no way for. For them to have that wave propagate, so there has to be some sort of medium like air or solid surfaces or something in order for sound travel. Well, if that's the case, said the folks of the time, then stuff like light must need some sort of medium to travel through right. I mean sound has to have lite must have something to like indefinitely. Travel through space I. Mean That's how we can see anything. Because light from the sun travels through space to hit the earth, so the light has to be moving through some sort of medium, we cannot observe directly. This hypothetical medium was the aforementioned luminous versus either. Either but assuming this ether existed at all, it had to be pretty darned special, because we can't feel it. We can't detect it. It creates no observable effects. So if it were real, it had to be unlike pretty much anything else. We had discovered up to that point now. Let's assume that the universe is filled with this ether stuff. The question arises held the heck. Does the ether interact with all the physical stuff that's in the universe, the actual matter and also energy after all the bodies in space, stars, planets, moons, and all that other stuff. All of that is moving. None of it is standing still and if. If it is moving. It would presumably disturb this ether medium. Right I mean if you move your hand through a pool of water, you are disturbing that water. You're making currents and eddies, so it was thought that the motion of all these elements in space would disturb the ether in some way, and hypothetically there would be some sort of ether wind, but if there were a wind, then presumably, the speed of light would be affected depending upon the wind's direction in relation to the lights direction, so think of a really windy day in the real world. If you're walking against a very very tough wind like gale, force. Wind Power through it to keep moving forward now. If you're walking with the wind, the wind is to your back and pushing you then you get a big boost while the same thing should be happening with light if ether wind were real, and so Mickelson and morally devised a gadget that would split light into two beams, directing those beams down different paths using mirrors in different directions and seeing if those. Those two beams of light would hit an piece at different times. The thought being well one of these directions would theoretically be in the same direction as the ether wind, and one would be at a crossed direction of ether wind, so should be a difference in the amount of time it takes for the lightweight from this one source that's been split into two to arrive at an eye piece. But That's not what they found. They observed no such effect. So if there were such thing as ether, the stuff wasn't giving either a boost or drag online itself no matter what the light was traveling at a constant speed, which turned out to be approximately one hundred, eighty, six thousand miles per second or around three hundred thousand kilometers per second. Now that flew in the face of Classic Newtonian, Physics, clearly with the example, the Ping Pong Ball and the train. The Ping Pong ball has to be traveling faster than the train. It's on. I mean that just makes sense. If you were standing on the top of the very front of the train, and then you through the Ping Pong Ball, and we ignore stuff like wind resistance. The Ping Pong ball would land ahead of the train, so it has to be going faster. So what the heck was so special about light and what was going on well, this was one of. Of the great mysteries that Albert Einstein said his mind to unraveling, and it formed the basis of one of his great theories of relativity, and this would be the theory of special relativity, which poses that the laws of physics are in the same in all nurses frames of references, and that means the speed of light will be the same for all observers regardless of their relative perspectives. It doesn't matter the context. The speed of light is the speed of light now there's an implication to this theory. That really got people scratching their heads. If the speed of light is absolutely constant. Stuff like distance and time are not in those a heck of a brain teaser. When we come back, we'll explore this more This episode brought to you by tide, one wash, miracle and guys I mean I got a little cute doggy is also stinky, little guy sometimes so when it comes time to wash his dog bed I have tried all sorts of stuff in order to get those odors out I'm talking belling Baking Soda we've tried the spray vodka thing on there, but one thing that really. Really has made that easier is tied one wash miracle. It's a powerful deep cleaning laundry solution that can remove particles that are deeply trapped in fibers, causing impossible odors that linger even after washing, you can order yours today from tied one wash Miracle Dot Com and get twenty percents off using the code tech stuff again. That is tied O. N. E.. Wash Miracle Dot, com. This! Episode is brought to you by IBM Today. Every answer matters more than ever before, because whether it's about health deliveries or finance, some things just can't wait. That's why IBM's helping. Businesses manage millions of calls texts and chats with Watson Assistant. It's conversational. A I designed to help your customers find the answers. They need faster. No matter the industry. Let's put smart to work with IBM DOT COM Slash Watson Assistant to learn more. Let's imagine that you live half a mile away from a lovely park and it's a half mile away in the morning. It's a half mile away at night. It's a half mile away on a Tuesday. It's a half mile away on a Saturday half. A mile is half a mile road. It's a reliable constant in our lives. If it weren't, we could never give directions to anywhere because all the. The measurements and landmarks would change all the time, and our world wouldn't make sense the way it does to us now, so in our individual experiences in our day to day lives stuff like distance seems pretty darn reliable and fixed, so how dare Einstein come along with his theory of special relativity in nineteen o five and say well. Yeah, but see the speed of light is really the true. True constant, and for that to work time and distance or space in other words must be somewhat able Einstein posited that there is no absolute frame of reference in our universe, which means there is no place in the universe that is totally stationary. Everything is moving, which means all motion is relative. You can't really talk about moving except in reference to some other moving thing so even as we. We, sit still and try to meditate. We do so on a planet that is hurtling through space. We are in motion. We're all moving through space and time, and we all have a frame of reference and each frame of reference is just as legitimate as every other frame of reference or I guess you could say if everybody's super nobody. Is I guess? I've watched the incredible too many times. One, anyway, this particular nineteen o five theory is called special relativity, because Einstein's explanation only covered special cases that being when two inertial frames are in constant motion with regard to one another, and there can be no acceleration, so the motion had to be in a straight line at a constant speed, a change in direction or speed would be an acceleration and to cover those instances. We would have to wait a decade for Einstein to work out his theory of general. Will get to that, but we've got a lot more to say about special relativity. So Einstein was taking a different approach to the results of the experiments by. michelson-morley, the scientific world at large was essentially saying this can't be right. These results can't be right. There must be something wrong with the experiment or the equipment because we're sure this theory is correct, and that ether is there Einstein was taking a totally different perspective. He was saying if we assume the experiments are producing accurate results, then it stands to reason that the prevailing theory is flawed, and we have to figure out what the real explanation, as and this is one of those important points in science. It's that if your results in your experiment, don't meet your hypothesis. It's very possible that your hypothesis is wrong now. You need to do multiple experiments to find out and to test your equipment. Make sure there's not any errors there. That could be causing the issues, but it does mean that you need to reexamine that hypothesis. And at this time, the scientific community wasn't really doing that. So Einstein did away with the ether. His explanation suggested that are observable universe has. Has Four dimensions not that there can only be four dimensions, but rather there are four dimensions we can detect and observe, and these would be up down left right forward backward, and then the fourth dimension, which is time collectively those three dimensions are space. The fourth dimension has time, and we get the space time continuum, this intrinsic relationship between space and time or space time continuum, which also gives us. Dozens of star trek episodes would use it. A shorthand for things are about to get really weird. Stein posited the speed of light is measured as constant in all frames of reference, unless think for a second what we mean by speed speed is a description of how much distance can be covered per unit of time, so speed of one hundred miles per hour means that in one hour's time we will cover a distance of one hundred miles. That's very obvious, but if the speed of light is constant for all frames of reference, regardless of how those frames are moving relative to each other that must. must mean something about space, and or time is a little Wonky, and let's think about our train experiment again. If you're aboard a train moving at a smooth one hundred miles per hour in a straight line and toss a ping pong ball straight up in the air. Well, it's GONNA. Go straight up and come right back down to your hand in a nice vertical line from an outside observer who is on the train? It would look a little differently. You would throw the ball up at one point. To this observer and the ball would appear to move not just vertically, but horizontally before coming back down now if we repeat this experiment, but we use light. We really see how he gets confusing. Okay, so now you're on a train, but it's going really fast like let's say half the speed of light, but the speed and direction are constant, so you're on this train. You don't feel any acceleration forces because you're moving at a constant speed any constant direction, so you're velocity remains same in fact. If there were no windows on the train, you wouldn't even be able. Able to tell that the train was moving at all. So let's say you've got a laser pointer and you've got a mirror on the ceiling of the train and the Photon detector on the floor of the train new shoot the laser up at the mirror reflects off the mirror, and then it comes back down and hits the detector on the floor, and it registers how long it took the light to travel from your laser pointer to hit the detector and to you. The laser makes a vertical line. All that makes sense right. You can imagine that, but for our. Observer, WHO'S NOT ON THE TRAIN? It would appear as though the laser actually travelling at a diagonal up to that mirror, and then a diagonal back down toward the detector, so for one observer, the one on the train. We have a straight line. It's vertical up down for the second observer off the train. We have an angled path sort of like how billiard ball can at the site of a pool table and bounce off at an angle? But this creates an apparent paradox. The Path viewed by you on the train is a straight line, and by definition that is the shortest distance between two points. The Path observed by the person who has not on the train is an angled line, and by definition that has to be longer. The speed of light is constant in both cases, but the distance is different between the two points of reference, and because speed distance divided by time. If the distance is different, the time must also be different between those two points of reference. Crazy. This brings us to the concept of time dilation it also by the way can affect distance, the faster and object gets the more squished it gets so if you had this train and you were to get up to near the speed of light, the train to an outside observer would appear to be shorter than it normally would be to anyone inside the train. The dimensions would remain exactly the same. You would not suddenly see a shorter train. It wouldn't be like you were in that compressor seen in star wars, the train with appear to be normal. From an outside observer, who is not traveling at that speed with it appeared that the train itself was getting squished shorter. Likewise, the faster something goes with respect to some other point of reference. That's important. The more quickly time appears to pass for those at the other point of reference or alternatively the more slowly time seems to pass for the fast moving thing. Thing from the frame of reference of the person who's not moving fast. This gets really clunky. I know it gets confusing, so let's talk about space travel. Some more examples actually make this way easier to explain all right, so let's say you've built a spaceship and this spaceship can go wicked fast like eighty percent of the speed of light and you're going. Going to go on a year long jaunt out in space, and your best friend is hanging back on earth. Now we now have our two frames of reference. We have the spaceship, and then we have the the person on earth, so let's ignore acceleration forces for the moment because we're going to have to just focus on special relativity, we'll get a general. General relativity in a moment, so your spaceship zooming around at eighty percent, the speed of light, and for you, time is passing. Normally. The seconds feel like seconds. Minutes feel like minutes hours feel like ours etc, and you're on there for a full year back on earth time is passing normally for your best friend. Who's just hanging on earth? They feel their. Their seconds pass like seconds there minutes past minutes, and so on however when we look at the two of you in reference to one, another something unusual happens so to your best friend on earth. It looks like time passing very slowly for you aboard your spaceship to you on your spaceship. It looks like time is passing super fast for your friend back. Back on Earth, so when you do get back to Earth a year later and the two of you enter the same point of reference. Things are weird from your perspective. You've only aged a year because you spent a year aboard your spaceship, but a little more than a year and a half has passed on earth while you were gone, your calendars wouldn't. Wouldn't lineup anymore. The faster you go, relative to your frame of Reference, the more pronounced the time dilation now I do want to be clear about this. It's not really correct to say that as speed increases, time slows down. You have to always relay this in terms of having another frame of reference, because within a single frame of reference. Time just passes. Passes normally. There's no difference by the way this is also why star dates in the Star Trek. Universe don't make a whole lot of sense. They tried to retroactively make it. Make sense, but keeping time when you're on a ship that can travel at the speed of light, or in the case of Star Trek magically going faster than the speed of light. And, we won't even get into warp speed all as crazy, but being able to use that and somehow related to making sense on time, passing on planets or space stations or whatever. That's a huge mess, but it's also outside of our episodes, so leave it at that. Don't notice the effects of special relativity in most of our day to day lives, because we are not traveling fast enough relative to each other for it to be a real factor most of the time. But it does get even more weird word possible to build a spaceship that could travel at the speed of light, and you were to take this sort of trip to an outside observer. Time would appear to stop for you aboard your spaceship now. If assuming this was even possible, you would still experience time in your own frame of reference as per normal, but your friend back on earth would see that. It looked like you were frozen in. In time, however, this is a moot point. Matter cannot travel at the speed of light, so it's more of a thought experiment. Anyway. However, we can actually detect time dilation with extremely accurate time measurement devices like atomic clocks. In fact, we've done it. In experiments, scientists have synchronized to atomic clocks and these atomic clocks keep incredibly accurate time down to a matter of nanoseconds a Nanosecond, one billionth of a second, so one clock was kept stationary. Speaking here on Earth, the other traveled aboard a high speed aircraft, and at the end of the experiment they compared the two clocks against each other and the one that was aboard the aircraft had measured less time than the one that stayed on the ground on earth less time passed on that aircraft relatives, the amount of time passing on the ground. It wasn't just that one clock was moving more slowly than the other. Literally less time was passing. In reference to the other point of from the perspective of the other point of reference that is the difference was right in line with Einstein's calculations. Now as we'll see, this ends up being an important point when we get to satellites, but we can't just jump on that yet. We do need to take into consideration general relativity so as I mentioned special. Relativity only looks at frames of reference that are in constant. Constant and consistent motion with regard to one another that could be no change in direction or speed, because that introduces accelerate divorces, and that changes things so to take acceleration into account. Einstein proposed his theory of general relativity ten years after his theory of special relativity, so this would be nineteen fifteen for those who are keeping track. This theory would incorporate the force of gravity into Einstein's work, which means factoring in. In acceleration, so in this theory, Einstein introduced the equivalence principle, which says that gravity pulling in one direction is equivalent to acceleration in another direction, so we can actually experience this. It's easy to remember an imagine. Imagine getting on an elevator and it's going up and as it goes up, you feel that sense of increased gravity pulling down on you as the elevator accelerates when the elevator is going down, you feel. Feel a sense of decreased gravity as the elevator accelerates downward, so gravity and acceleration are equivalent, which means that it can also affect our measurements of space and time I'm Stein. The size that gravity was warping space time itself. Take something that's really massive like a huge dense star that would warp space time around it through its gravity, and we can even observe this. Scientifically scientists have measured light. The has curved. Massive Stars this is called Gravitational lensing. Now here's another thing that gets a bit confusing. The effects of gravity on time mean that time passes differently for objects in orbit when taken in reference to time passing on earth itself time passes Faster in orbit than it does on Earth now again. This is a frame of reference thing because if you're on a spaceship in orbit. Orbit, your experience of time would feel exactly the way it does. When you are on earth, it's only when we look at this from two frames of reference that we see how it doesn't match up. So, what does this all mean for? Satellites blown means that satellites in orbit have a couple of different relativistic effects going on in our frame of reference here on Earth. Earth satellites are traveling faster than we are to maintain orbit, which means that if we compare the passing of time in each frame of reference, time would pass faster for us than for the satellite, however, due to the gravitational effect on space time, we also know that something in orbit will have time pass faster for that thing then we would experience here on earth so. So it's the opposite of the effect of special relativity in way, and the effects of special relativity and general relativity, don't actually cancel each other out which means ultimately that time on a satellite and time down here on earth are not sinked up with reference to one another, and for some types of satellites. That's a problem I'll explain more after we take this quick break. Hey, podcast I'm Jada. Pinkett, Smith host to the Red Table Talk Podcast, and I want to introduce you to two of the most important women in my life. My Mom Adrienne Banfield Norris. She's really old school. I never wanted to be in that situation like not date will at all. Everything is by the book, and then we have my daughter Willow Camille Reign Smith. Smith I'm going to be like my ancestors in just do what I need to do. We've brought these three generations to the red. Table to talk about family relationships social issues in a whole bunch more. We're all going through something right, so put on your headphones. Join me, Jada, Pinkett Smith Gammy and willow for your favorite episodes on the rare table. Talk podcast. Like glowing. Mark. Thank you I. Appreciate it. Listen to the Red Table podcast presented by Facebook, watch and Westbrook audio on the iheartradio APP, apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. To understand why relativity is important with certain satellites, let's talk about the global positioning system or GPS. Now this is the satellite system that provides data back to earth that makes it possible to get precise coordinates using a GPS receiver. Does that work well here on earth you could get a very imprecise idea of your general coordinates through a trilateral commission using signals from cellphone towers. This works on a fairly simple principle, so we know that the radio signals sent to and from cell phones travel at essentially the speed of light, so if a cell phone tower broadcasts out a short command, the just requests your phone to respond back with a quick response, a pain in other words. The amount of time it would take for the pain to reach the cell tower could be used to work backward and figure out how far away the phone is from that cell phone tower. Because you know the speed of travel, right is the speed of light, so you also know how much time it took. That means you can work backward to figure out the distance between those two points. However, that's just a distance. There's no direction there now. If you did this with Multiple Cell Towers, the collective data from those. Those towers could be used to get a rough estimate of where the phone is. So let's imagine we've got a map and on that map. We've got three Cell Towers, a B and c. you can see exactly where each one is, and let's say that you've got a phone. That's located somewhere within the broadcast range of those three cell towers. Each Tower sends a ping to your phone. Your phone respond with Ping back, and you are given the amount of distance between your phone and each of those three towers well. Tower as result says that you are a mile away from tower a so you actually have to draw a full circle around tower, a to represent all the possible points you could be. That are one mile away from tower a so you're drawing a mile radius around tower. A tower be responds that you're within one point five miles of tower being so you have to draw a circle round tower. Be To represent all the points where you could be. That are a mile and a half away from it. Now the circle tower be in the circle from top a should intersect each other at two points, but that means you could be at either of those two points right could be either overlap, so you don't have enough information yet by coordinating with tower. See and let's say that tells you. You're within two miles. You can draw a third circle and the point where all three circles would meet would be general location. It's not incredibly precise, but it does give you an idea of where you are. The GPS constellation of satellites does something similar only we have to think of this. In terms of three dimensional space, rather than a two dimensional map, so a satellite sends out a high frequency, low power, radio, signal and receivers pick that signal up. The receiver, let's say your smartphone doesn't have to send data backup to the satellite which is good, because would be an enormous drain on your smartphones power so really it's just listening for these signals now the receiver and satellite both run the same digital pattern relative to a specific time stamp. It's easy if we think of this as midnights, let's say that midnight hits, and this particular digital pattern starts both on the satellite and the receiver, so they're both running the exact same pattern. The satellite beams out of signal carrying this digital pattern. The satellite is far away so it takes a little time. You know not much, but a little time for that signal to get your receiver and the lag between. Between the pattern that's playing on your receiver and the signal of that same pattern coming in from the satellite tells the receiver how far away it is from that particular satellite because again we know that the city is moving at the speed of the transmission itself, and that's the speed of light, and that's constant so now the receiver knows how far away it is from that one satellite, and because the orbits of these satellites are predictable, the receiver has a record of where that satellite should be relative to the surface. Occasionally, we have to tweak that record because stuff like gravity can pull a satellite slightly out of position over time, so that actually is something that has to be addressed on occasion. This receiver will do this with at least four satellites, the y four and not three I gave the the three cell phone tower examples. Well, it's because the clocks on satellites and the clock that's running on the device that the receiver is built into may not be in, and really aren't truly synchronized and the intersection of force fears of distance like these four spheres represented various ranges that these satellites are finding themselves in with regard to this receiver. Can only intersect at one point. That's the only place they could all intersect. So if a GPS receivers clock is not matching up to the clocks on the satellites, there will be no intersection at all, and the receiver will say well. I can't find an intersection so I know that means. My clock is off from all the other clocks, and it will then adjust its own clock to be in alignment so that the four spheres have a point of intersection, and that is your location on earth now in order for our receivers to be able to do. Do, this the accuracy of the atomic clocks aboard those GPS, satellites has to be accurate within twenty to thirty nanoseconds and remember a nanosecond one billionth of a second that is an astounding level of accuracy, and because these satellites are in motion, and they are also affected by Earth's gravity, they are subject to the effects of special and general relativity, and this means we actually have to make calculations to take that into account now, according to special relativity and the relative speeds of satellites to a fixed point on the surface of the earth. We would expect the. The atomic clock aboard that satellite to register seven fewer macro seconds per day than o'clock on earth, because satellites are moving through space faster than we are relatively speaking, so that means from our frame of Reference Time is passing more slowly on that satellite than it does here on earth but general relativity comes into play, too, and general relativity tells us that the Earth's gravity warps space time around our planet and one of general relativity predictions. Is that a clock closer to a massive object so like a clock here on earth will tick more slowly than. Than a clock that is further out from that same massive object, so the closer the clock is to the mass of object. The less time it will experience, it will measure compared to a clock. That's further away, which is crazy right so taking only general relativity into account we would see that o'clock aboard one of these satellites would register more time having passed on that satellite then o'clock here on earth meaning from our frame of Reference Time is actually passing faster on those satellites than it does here for us. This would come out to about forty five. Five microseconds a day meaning that at the end of day one, the clock aboard that satellite would be ahead of o'clock here on Earth by forty five microseconds, and this would continue day after day with the gap growing wider every single day now when we bring both special and general relativity together into consideration. We see that they don't just cancel each other out right because we've got that. Seven micro-second lag due to special relativity, but we have the forty five micro-second surge due to general relativity, so in the end we're looking at a thirty eight microseconds difference. Difference per day between a clock on the satellite and o'clock here on Earth, the clocks on the satellites will get ahead of similar clocks here on Earth, by thirty eight microseconds every single day, and while micro-second is a very small amount of time I. Mean we're talking at a level that we don't typically experienced. We don't think of time and microseconds for our day to day lives. However, thirty eight microseconds is equal to thirty eight thousand NANOSECONDS, and if you're looking for an accuracy of around twenty to thirty nanoseconds, district comes an enormous problem if we don't. Don't take it into account, and this brings us back round to something. I mentioned at the top of the show. We know that Einstein was right about relativity, because we have to account for it with technology like GPS. If we didn't take into account if we didn't factor in the effects of relativity, our GPS wouldn't work for very long at all. Our technology proves that the science is real or else. The tech would fail at what it needs to do now in general, I think that's a great lesson to take home. There are a lot of voices. Voices out there that call science into question, and some of them are more outlandish than others. A person who's passionately insincerely arguing that the earth is flat seems pretty far out there for me, because so much of our technology we built upon, and we rely upon wouldn't work if that were true, even if you can't experience something directly such as having a meaningful experience of time dilation, a ton of the stuff we do experience on day to day. Basis is affected by this stuff, and it proves the existence and also the benefits of having the scientific method. Now, give a little side note on GPS to kind of wrap this up the original GPS. Configuration came out of a United States Department of Defense Project the original purpose was to provide positioning information for government and military, but specifically the United States and its allies, and for that reason, the government wished to restrict access to this technology. The general thought was that it would be better if the US didn't allow tech. That could you know? Give precise coordinates for stuff like military bases or the position of. Of various military units to people who didn't belong to those divisions, so as a matter of national security. The US guarded this technology civilian receivers, so if you went out and bought a GPS receiver, you could get public GPS signals, but the United States was purposefully instituting a policy called selective availability, which wasn't intentional degradation of public GPS signals. They were introducing errors on purpose, so that GPS receivers couldn't get an accurate, wrote location at limited accuracy to around fifty meters horizontally and one hundred meters vertically. And effectively that meant that you wouldn't really know your precise coordinates. You certainly couldn't use a GPS receiver as a turn by turn directions tool because you wouldn't even necessarily show up on the right St. you wouldn't know if you were approaching your turn, or if you'd already passed it, it was. It was not practical for that. It was only in the year two thousand when US President Bill. Clinton directed the government to end selective availability that civilian gps receivers could actually get accurate data, and that's what made the modern gps receivers stuff like our phones possible. So before two thousand GPS receivers didn't work very well for the average person, but it wasn't because the technology was bad or that the science was wrong. It worked that way or if you prefer it, it didn't work properly on purpose, and that wraps up this episode about relativity, and why it's important with technology, and it's not just satellite tack, but that's a big one. And it also ends up being a big thorn in the side for science fiction authors who want to write about interstellar travel faster than light speeds because you have to start finding alternative explanations for how that's possible, because we we've come up against these limits. That Einstein predicted so far his predictions have held true so in order to travel faster than the speed of light. You do have to create something like warp drive, which theoretically warps space around you so rather than traveling faster than light your decreasing the distance between your point of. Of origin and your destination, it would be kind of like taking a map of the United States and saying I'm going to travel from Atlanta to Los Angeles from one coast to the other, but instead of drawing a line from Atlanta to La. You just fold the map so that the two dots are next to each other, and then you draw a line that way that's how warp speed is supposed to work, because it's the only way you can get around the fact that you can't really go faster than the speed of light. But, that's a topic for another show. If you guys have suggestions for future topics, I should tackle. Please let me know. Send me a message on twitter handle. Is Tech Stuff H. S. W. I'll talk to you again really soon. Tech stuff is an iheartradio production for more podcasts from iheartradio visit. The iheartradio APP apple podcasts wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 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Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone Ep 62: The Ed-man Cometh

Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone

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Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone Ep 62: The Ed-man Cometh

"Talk to you live from the Ray Horsemen Studio in North Hollywood California. It's nobody listens to Paula. Poundstone your comedy field guide to life tonight tonight. Ed Begley Junior Coaches Paula edition skills in another episode of outside the Actors Studio you seen Ed on all those great Christopher guest movies you loved him in Pineapple Express an this past year he was rudy on bless this mess with the help of this brilliant actor Paul finally nail her audition plus plus. How did Police Ping Pong Bargo was table tennis etiquette honored? We'll hear how the ball bounces for her guests tips on acting etiquette and how to avoid death by Jesus poisoning reasoning you can only find it here. I'm Adam felber. The man who tries to keep this shows cheese consumption limited to what's on the conversational platter and now it please welcome to woman you can always find rating topical refrigerator in the kitchen of her mind Paula poundstone welcome Pala so nice to be it's good to have you and it's also good to have you tell you one thing before before I even introduced a house Bandeau uh no no introduced now thank you to our house band singer Songwriter Violinist Oughta pasternack so nice lovely start out and a and there was just the beginning. We don't even know what's going to happen so so now interrupt me again okay so let me interrupt you again. There's something okay so do you know about my left Nipple. Yes yes for four our listeners your cat accidentally we think pierced your left nipple about a month and a half ago my cat clue right but yeah I picked her up and she her clip my cats front claws but I can't to the hind claws and so one of her hind claws went through my left nipples various said your nipple painful took quite a while to heal a kind of an unusual amount is it helium I think so just in time for my cat brittle to jump up to my lap last night and then dig her hind claw into my right nipple. You're kidding and you know what I can't figure out and like you won't cats for forty years. Never has that happened and I've had nipples. Yes for even nationally prominent no. There's you know it's been very hot and bright so nipples don't protrude in the heat the way they do. My understanding of them is exactly that yeah so no I keep watching youtube videos or why all the sudden be happening but I can tell you right now. Got Got a band aid over my right and you really yeah was it as bad or worse than let very painful because it's similar and then of course it's Abrasive went anything rubs on it and and although I do have available a remarkably software I poly blend t shirt which doesn't exist which does remarkably so t-shirt does not upset my nipple at a particular teacher that I referred to is Paula poundstone t shirt with a self portrait on the left breast a memorable quote on the back but really I haven't heard yeah yeah that wouldn't create an abrasive problem but oh boy wow so I'm going to return to my question is worst the left nipple injury comparable or comparable I think they were using they watched a similar video. Wow anyways. I just thought it was important to get that out in case you saw me gently cupping my right nipple tonight. You would know why I still prefer that you don't just straight out speaking hotel soap though you had a pain Pong party this weekend. I hope that your injury didn't interfere with your performance. That was the Ping Pong party was prior to pull a Ping Party was prior to the piercing to my painful. Yeah it was great. It was so much fun and Varo came and he brought an e Mu an ema which was sort of the Harry Byrd from Africa right yeah or or yeah yeah and it's not good at Ping Pong Party kept pecking at the ball and kind of didn't shelter and bring an animal that he does have some other luminaries from our podcast there you had jay deal was there right j deal was there with my ramp songs to rap song that we premiered just last week now last week we had on Elaine Swan to hedican expert exactly and to help me with manners that would be required us and because she gave you some good advice I wanna see how much of this you followed yeah. Did you get the party set up in time or did you as per usual. It's not get it set up in time and draft. You're first arriving guests into helping you set up. No we were. We were ahead of the game this time really we were all set up when people came house a fabulous bill fair of candy and chips as you can imagine I can imagine it is in the center of our table your copy of crap that we have here yeah. Ah The podcast yeah fruit plate that I I it was everything was some influence on you yeah yeah. Did you remember people's names you know. The irony is that when he lane was both times he lane was here are manners experts. She brought with her a guy named and D ran wasn't even yeah and he came to the party. Yeah I could not remember his name for the life the until a second ago. You couldn't remember Elaine's name either yeah. I reminded you of that Yeah Yeah. She didn't show up at the lane told me last week was just be up front about the fact that I can't remember to say oh you know get a little overwhelmed with a party. Now I want to say I know he's not formerly here until the next segment but Ed Begley junior on your has just walked into the studio. Now we're recording. Thank you welcome. Welcome Ed yeah but don't talk. 'cause the illusion that we're having here that you're not here yet. You're not introduced for a little bit weird. We will win to you okay. So paulie had this Ping Pong party I want to ask you there. Were a lot of famous in great people there. We had durant obviously we had. We had Jay deal did ED Begley junior show up Ed Begley junior did show I would love to ask you about that when he shows up later yeah yeah I think he had a fabulous time. He Played Ping Pong all all night Lonzo. Stop in my hand. Eye Coordination is not to be believed. We're just GONNA have to reveal to the crowd that Ed Begley here this. It doesn't crisis early. Becoming early wasn't enough traffic and Miranda Street. Did your guests go home on time and did you have to employ floyd techniques to get them to leave all this advice but you you said that you prefer that guest day forever I love. I love the party. I like people staying late. I likely late Night Ping Pong. I did have one friend who kept saying you know because I sit up this ping pong tournament. It's very hard to do. It's very stressful yeah and I did have one friend who kept saying like digital me and yet. Did you put me in yet. Am I playing yet and I finally turned and said you know I had a manners expert on my podcast. I that's how I handled that wow because Elaine Swan did not say that about this guest. This guest doesn't know that okay listen to your podcast now. She wants me. She glad it went well. I'm sorry I just listen. I just wanted to know that wasn't about you. Yeah sorry I couldn't be there your your party Paula. I had a previous engagement then that ran long yeah you didn't call and say that in call and say we're not coming my wife. Did she called. We might not come no and you seek to her. No yes in fact you. You told me so. No Elaine said for me to tell you and your wife Laine said it's too bad adam because this was the time you were going to win. I want once I was assistant and he can play and we weren't one time yeah when when the now speaking of etiquette you had an encounter with Avis car rental I did and you know what in order to explain to the encounter. I had with Avis car rental. I was simply read you. The letter of complaint that I sent to Avis car rental net should explain everything you sent a letter I did so we're GonNa hear this letter that you see before me that I'm about to who read from is typed it's long but I copied it in handwriting to send to Avis because they thought it was important that they receive. You've a hand written letter dear Avis. I am an Avis preferred member several weeks ago. My travel agent reserved vehicle for me at the at Logan Airport in Boston. When I arrived at the rental office I was given a Toyota Tacoma? The Avis clerk didn't talk to me about the gas but I've never understood the explanation explanation that give about buying the tank ahead of time or bringing it back full anyway. I did not make note of how much gas was in the tank. When I got in the truck I drove from the Avis rental to two different locations in eastern Massachusetts and back to the Avis rental place a high level of detail? I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the banana in your bag yet as unfortunately unfortunately as I drove back to Boston I had to swerve for a banana as I drove question very late at night accidentally looked at the temperature gosh instead of the fuel gauge. I only realized I was looking at the wrong gauge. When a light went on that said refueled now I was panicked because I was passed the stations just off the highway? There were detours near the airport and I get lost really easily. I feel like this is a higher level of gripping narrative. Avis employees generally getting a letter sent to them. I I'm sure shows up on the wall there. I didn't even see the shell station and I was really just relieved to make it to the Avis parking lot without running out of gas when I got there the attendant said and then if avis filled the tank it would be expensive. He didn't say how expensive and it was late and I was flying out early. I opted to have avis fill the tank O aw according according according to your paperwork I drove one hundred ninety two miles. I read online that that truck has a twenty one point five gallon capacity gas tank and that the four wheel drive versions get nine thousand nine hundred twenty two miles per gallon. Even if it was all city driving nineteen miles per gallon that would mean I would expect to us about ten gallons of gas yes so if I only use ten gallon Anita how was the tank empty when I returned it and even if the tank was empty you charged ten dollars per gallon to refill it if I only we used ten gallons you charge me twenty dollars per gallon. I would like my gas money back. If not I can no longer afford Davis to be my rental company of choice. That is an unacceptable unacceptable charge. Remember when your advertising slogan was we try harder. I guess you've given that up. Oh us through their own words at them. Uh I'm happy to come up with some new slogans for you. If you want to do suggestive you I didn't I just left a little dot dot dot and they never called me back. They never wrote me. Back sounds familiar my ex American express spill the charge was taken off the whole chart. I can't remember if it was a whole charge you. You're just part about giving you that tank of gas I think they I think they did give me the tag. I think they only stent I think they did I mean I don't question your math. I clearly didn't spend the I didn't use that whole tank of gas by myself every fuel now light coming on it wasn't full when I get in. You didn't check no I said that graph two or three interactive so f y they regularly send it out and they make note of what it is normally normally now. He's only half old. It's only three quarters. They're supposed to make note to you when you take the state that it's in kind stranger. We're going to introduce you soon and now I'd meddling kid just so we can finally get to these meddling kids read from from Scooby Doo surprise ending to the story others know the surprise ending was not a surprise you don't Oh you feel an occasion like this. That's a surprise I'm surprised but like couldn't have semi fuck you go to national. That's that's why I bring this up because like you wrote a similarly brilliant letter to frontier communications lets contrast which is Response Essay contest for frontier communications nations and the Stranger Ed. I'm sure you participated in this as well frontier communications. Put Down Your smartphone contest though I don't know it wasn't what you could win is the right to not use your smartphone for a week you get a ninety s survival bag as well as a thousand dollars and a flip phone so you're using a flip phone. You're listening to ninety CDs and you're not looking at your smartphone all week. Paula entered this contest with a brilliant brilliant Elliot. S A winning essay right a winning essay that one there it's been said and they have communicated to US repeatedly with repeatedly lower employees down checking that now there's not the winner you're in fact an honorary winner to which we have to say. Where's the fucking money an uh-huh honorary winner imagine the last email we receive from them came from just a guy named Bob who sweeps up at night and involves it? He was transcribing for for his canary. Yeah Bob Pump said as soon as you get a bag with a t shirt in it I think that's what he said and I wrote back to bubble and I said I I hope my thousand dollars is wrapped in shirt club. A We've been hammering frontier communications relentlessly and they have not been they have not been responding now guessing because they don't have Internet back. It's possible that they're not nobody listens to Paula poundstone listeners and stranger in the chair the most frustrating thing about this is that just what was it two weeks ago we had dame same Maggie Smith in this chair in which I say she didn't she was GonNa do the segments about to segment. She was in her car she. She wouldn't take pay for doing it the way we're paying you but what she what she asked for that. I donate a thousand dollars to her favorite charity already. I said absolutely because I knew I was getting this thousand dollars from frontier communications when the money didn't chain chance. She just sat in her car. She may still be out there for I now so when you guys straight I wouldn't give a great odds of still being. She may be a drug addict. Just off brand on the next read over nowadays over the summer months. There has been a fantastic TACO truck setting up out there. There's one out there right now. It looks great and the Knicks have dined there repeatedly heatedly and really enjoy it. That's why was made it here to students. Pen was ethnic isn't the to- main poisoning is not an easy thing to to recover from shirtless. Yeah you know Roger Federer has shop just up on the corner or did you see it's not Roger Federer. Even Federer is no it's Roger Federer fritter aw Roger Federer players incorrect stranger. He's play very successful. geddes trying to bring up before this is Mrs sock puppet she didn't lose your sock puppet emperors. Apparently the world's first sock list sock puppet Komo name is Mrs Colpepper. Mr Stranger and we have culpepper introduced a couple of weeks ago in the word of the week was triaud toxin with which which sedley captain culpepper died of trial toxin pass stone from trial toxin poisoning. I'll who'll explain which is the ankle cheese on the milk brought oaks shut up sorry Mrs culpepper. Ah My man is expert says you are talking back there. She was trying to record a podcast. Talking crinkle served with captain. Captain Crinkle is a is a favorite of mine who talked to doing that man. I fill by to apologize. You enjoy my dress tonight. I'm wearing a tavern address of honeysuckle Hugh. It looks like Mike looks like the emperor's new dress to be honest with you and he's not the emperor's new captain culpepper bought it for me before trial is tragic passing of trial rial talk schism. What kind of cheese was the goethe? They caught him. I'm glad we got to your catchphrase. Mrs Culpepper Guard About Pilot Pilot Organization frontier communications bathed in a scoreless Mana scurrilous indeed Mrs culpepper manner towards Ms Poundstone. Yes now Paula Paula if you're in there or MS culpepper rather do it. Is there a word of the week this week. We have a wound of the we thank you for asking what is happening to this show. I don't know where the word coming. It's not you at its US. One is choosing. No excuse me cousin listen. COUSIN COUSIN CEO's E. E. M. C. O. Z. E. N. He's going for them and and tell me what cousin means dupe deceive in a way that frontier communications nations has engaged in it's a great crossword and scrabble word. It is indeed use that letter you do that to keep your brain shops. It's not working that well. He's squad shop. I can tell shop oh my God what a Menagerie came up with tonight all right MS culpepper. Thanks for dropping by coming up. Thanks for having me introduce our guest in just a moment. I'm going to Segue Aguayo into a little bit of music and then introduce guest coming up stellar Adler said about acting quote you have chosen a field where you're going to be hurt to the blood blood but to retreat from the pain is death. Wow that's cherry stella well Paula retreat from her edition or why be sitting here splattered in the blood of my friend and and enough to him in Polish rap song. Is it a chart buster answers to all these pressing questions you answers to all these pressing all right fine there. There are three WS in a row here answers to all these pressing questions when we return on nobody listens to Paula poundstone nobody listens to Paula poundstone is brought to you in part by arm and hammer cloud control cat litter what I love. What are you love Paula my cats I? I love cats too. I Love Louise Blue Eyes. He's like a really fat Paul Newman. That's a cat okay. The see where you're going with this it's harder to love cleaning up Louise Litterbox which is why Armand Hammer created new cloud control litter or no cloud cloud of NASTIES here. It's one hundred percent dust free free of heavy perfumes and helps reduce airborne dander from scooping so what happens in the litterbox litterbox stays in the litterbox and I want to add for those of you out there who don't like Paula have forty seven cats but have like one or two like I do that those clouds can arise from just a single litterbox. Oh yeah it's just disrupting the litter at all that stuff and it's like clapping and racer yeah exactly Jackson made it is yeah yeah. It's like it's like a building being destroyed. The Big Vegas Casino implosion kind of thing we say sleep is what I'm saying saying. litterbox looks like unless you're using new cloud control cat litter by Armin Hammer more power to you. Canada Week is Sonny from Port Augusta South Australia thank you we're back and auto pasternack. Thank you so much singer Songwriter. She had a Gig in Hollywood this week. I wish I could have gone and I am honored to be sitting across from a man a mystery man who is both a superb superb actor and a superb leader on environmental issues. I actually used his dish soap from his roles on saint elsewhere and this is spinal tap a mighty wind and from his own own green reality show living with Ed to creating a home with a minimal carbon footprint. He is the real deal as both an actor and environmentalist. Please welcome Ed Begley in junior boy. Thank you thank you thank you so much for coming. I hope that you found your your fair share of mattresses out on Maranda streets. There were a few matters now. Did you reuse and recycle them on your way in. I did not on my way out. I'm GonNa make good use of of them. It is hot in here probably be late so I'll need a nap yeah yeah I gotta I gotTa warn kind of Fall Asleep on Miranda Street. You're likely to lose your hubcaps opt. Even if you weren't driving a euphemism. It is in this case yeah well Ed. We told you why you're here. It's no secret that Paul is terrible. I don't believe that for a minute. I bet she's a great really I love your positivie. She gets called in for roles and then she would you how dishes addition you've loved the audience that she came in red four. She's so good she's so funny. Well I agree. I agree but you can't audition audition. So what we've been doing is inviting distinguished actors to come and help prepare her two additional. I think the the most recent one before you was lily Tomlin row boy the show to help out and wow lily just frankly threw in the towel really really hired are are bouncing her yeah. She seems to feel. There's no hope for me but ed you sound more positive so maybe this'll work tonight. We're hoping you can help out Paula on outside inside the actors studio. I leave this job this welcome to outside the actors studio tonight. Junior will coach Paula poundstone on an edition for role Ed. Paula has brought insights role role. She is up for these great. I'm we'd like you to read the scene with her and then offer your coaching tips. I'd be happy you to do it. I can't wait. I'll be honest with you. She's been writing these sides and I've been really enjoying little developing story but I'll read Paul's description. Paula is reading waiting for the role of Marta. Marta is a strong woman. She suffers no fools. She doesn't feel she needs demand but when love comes knocking she can help peeking through the blinds she smart a little a bit quirky and really into pugs she has worked on campaigns for thirty years and it's beginning to suspect that sexism has played a role in not having climbed higher on the career ladder. She has hit a rough patch in her life and deciding to be proactive has sought help from her friend Ariz therapist so that's Paula's role Ed your characters Bob the therapist I wipe all you have described these parts of saintly. Let's get going Bob. The therapist is seated in an Ergonomic chair with the Hasek that brings his knees up above his hips CBS. He wears a TUNIC and Brown business slacks on one wall. There's a framed black and white photo of a naked woman lying on her side staring into the camera with was one Mascara dripped here coming down her cheek on the opposite wall. There's a photo of a man in the same style on the table. Beside Bob is a box of Kleenex Wchs and an Intercom Marsha sits ilise on the edge of a sectional couch and the scene begins. I hope I didn't freak you out by calling your name over the Intercom Com in the waiting room. It was very hard to get out of this chair nice to meet you Marta. I've got degrees up the pituitary but you don't have to call me doctor. You can call me Bob. Are I probably told you we're a little loosey Goosey in here but the benefits trade for fifty years. I don't always go by the book but I like to think I've helped people. So what brings you to see me. I don't no no. I just feel like I need someone to talk to. I don't want to burden my friends or maybe when I talked to them. I just feel like I'm not being heard. I certainly don't think you're tired. That's a good place to start though with couch you can move it anywhere. You feel comfortable. We're a little loosey Guzzi in hair. This is fine. Are you sure this is your time. You might want to move a piece sectional couch. You move it. No one thinks you're turned in here. It's fine okay. I'll tell you what I like to get. Things started with a gut check so we're going to do what I tell you right now which is to just sit up straight straight close your eyes and breathe deeply as you can feel like an idiot closing my eyes a worry about your thighs here we go. I'll do it too. Oh five oh my gosh. I just fall asleep so sorry. My Gut is telling me I went with my wife a little too late last night. I went out with my my wife way to a we've been married for forty years. She can still ring my bell. She's a beautiful woman in the photograph up there in the wall. I think I'll face the window there you go. You're starting yourself. It's a gut check. It's a beautiful tool. I've worked wonders Ferrari. It's how he found out. He's is a foot fetish. Bob Therapist Therapist is not supposed to talk about their personal life nor their other clients so we're a little loosey Goosey Loosey Goosey. You're out of your mind and how the fuck is supposed to help me. I got passed over for a job with the governor that I worked my ass off to get elected just before my apartment was burglarized. My pug is licked off from her belly and I had to borrow two hundred dollars from my mother who thinks I'm a loser to begin with to pay for a therapy session with another who unless I missed my guess is lying saying naked with his dick hanging out in a photograph on the wall to my left which is why I am not turning my head in that direction. Wow we don't usually get the primal screaming for at least just a month but you are really responding to therapy. So what time would you like to come next week. She slams the door and we hear through the income in the waiting room where thick socks around Ari now. I do have a reaction about that scene. Okay my reaction is you. You were much better. Why am I working in? You're not my question much better than May I sucked in. You're wonderful well. I'm familiar with the words in a way that you know I'm familiar with the words but I though you were very good Paula. I shoot a national looked at it. I should have really prepared better. I'm sorry no but you know when you audition. You're you're often reading with very casting person for it doesn't newsletter you gave the script last minute so that he can giving a cold read. She gave it to me a yesterday and I want her to look at yeah. I should have looked at it some more advice have you for me on on focusing on ed here and his relation to the part okay totally forgot to talk about. What's the matter with us is? Have you had any bad addition experiences. I have actually I've had a couple of them. One quite notable event was when I I did addition foreign got. This was not the bad part. This was a good part. I got the part in the late seventies of the country free time eliminate guy member country timely the country as a young guy. There was an older man. I remember him. He was in my mid twenties at this point maybe even late twenties doesn't matter late twenties now I think and I played the country time lemonade guy the old Geezer as a young man since yes yes it was a little flashback kind of thing with his wife when we met her. I can't doesn't matter. Can you remember this job foggy lots of Veselin on the length yea crosstalk filter kind of stuff and I did that and it ran very good. I made some good money so now the story begins okay. I got a call from my agent. It's a year after we do those first ones which I made some good money they say I feel we are making this call but they're doing the country time lemonade commercials again and they're looking for an ED Begley junior type. I said that's really weird. So why don't they see me at the looking for Ned beg no no they want to see you but they're gonNA see other people for two wow so I went in and so you sit waiting room within the waiting waiting room with about four other guys ties on all dressed like in character for the thing I didn't come and character yeah you know they came like what the what I was is in the commercial right. They did a better job of me than me. They have the little bow tie on and the whole thing and they're all of the Sepia tone as well. I think they might have had a Sepia tone filter. They hold them uh-huh and they they all will like about five years younger than me. At this point. I'm in my late twenties ever like mid twenty s or maybe early twenties auditioned for myself and don't get it now to be clear. I hadn't put on any weight. I had all my hair back then. It wasn't like I changed in some ways. We're like okay. I see why they didn't want him. I didn't look any different. Wow I went to audition for myself and Ed Begley Junior type and didn't get it. That's a rough audition. I'm sure politics at the same way when she went to the movies and saw who wasn't in Paula poundstone story by streisand Barbra streisand uncomfortable Tell me about your uncomfortable auditioning stories. One of them has been uncountable apparently doesn't audition so much. Get Nervous and tell people stories I talk a lot. I'm like I'm stores. Reagan was to the presidency. Yeah I just keep talking and then eventually I say the wrong thing so traditionally really what we would do right now is you would impart some of your audition wisdom to follow and then applying that knowledge. We'd do this scene again okay but will I get any better in the second time that's right yeah. I'm wondering I will my my advice to you is really advice to myself. Prepare work on the scene beforehand. That's my advice so let's try it again. Let's see if I can do it any better okay but again. It's not really about you ed so much is improving. Policy performance seems almost completely uninterested in improving pony. Now really I just WanNa. I'm not getting quite enough work. I want to get a little more work now. I don't want to save any for Paula. poundstone onto Paula poundstone can get one day on a reality show that she might have gotten. I want that to all right goes. I haven't got you here under false pretenses. There's not really a job the television show that's being made. I I don't want you to actually existed job is in turn around and now it's set up at Sony. I think it's a big for me to come here thinking that you could get the job of Bob he could totally get this job. I think and pay for electric motor full disclosure. I get it the right here. What's going to happen guys? Hey Director. I'M GONNA ask you to breathe and you're in addition. Recall asking you to direct that up to you anyway of Geez. No thank you actually pushed. The plate achieves right next to me. I don't trust that she's at all got the captain Muslim okay so you read this description again. I want you guys to just take get in and then we'll start to see okay. I'M GONNA take it okay. Bob Therapist is seated in an Ergonomic chair with a half the brings his knees up above his hips. He Wears Tan Hand Tunic and Brown business slacks on one wall. There is a framed black and white photo of a naked woman lying on her side staring into the camera with one Mascara dripped tears coming down her cheek on the opposite wall. There's a photo of a man in the same style on the table. Beside Bob is a box of Kleenex and an intercom. Marta sits illegalities elegies on the edge of a sexual couch and the scene begins Elbow Freak you out by calling your name over the Intercom in the waiting room and very hard to get out of this chair Nice Nice to meet your Marta. I've got degrees up the Tutti but don't call me doctor. You can call me. Bob Alright probably told you we're a little Loosey goosing here at this trade for fifty years. I don't always go by the book but like to think I've helped some people what brings you the seamy. I don't know I just feel like I need to talk to. I didn't want to burden my friends awesome. Maybe when I talk to them. I just don't feel like I'm being asked to bring that down a little bit to make some more room for ED's character. I was thinking the same exact Zack. Thank thank you. I didn't WanNa say if characters going to kind of spread out and relax into it. I feel like you take it down. Maybe maybe thank you. You're welcome bed Paul. You WanNa do that line again. Yeah okay. I don't know I just feel like I need someone to talk to i. I don't want to burden my friends or maybe when I talked to them. I just feel like I'm not being. I heard well. I certainly don't think you're a third and that's a good place to start though you know that's the section with couch you move it anywhere. You feel comfortable. We're a little loosey Goosey in here. This is fine. Are you sure in here. This is your time you want to move a piece of sexual couch. You move it. No one thinks you're at Teradata near here. It's fine okay. I'll tell you what I want to start with a little gut. Check so what we're GONNA do sit up straight. Close Your eyes and breathe deeply as you can feel like an idiot closing my eyes. Don't worry about your thighs here. We go. I'm going to do with you aw lab fab. I'm so sorry I'm sorry sorry. Did I fall asleep. Just my gut is telling only meow went out with my wife a little too late last night. We've been married forty years. She can still ring my bell beautiful woman. That's earned the photograph up there on the wall. I think I'll face the window there you go. You're hurting yourself to gut. Check okay to beautiful thing work wonder for airy. It's how are we found out. He has a foot Fetish Bob. A therapist is not supposed to talk about their personal life nor there are other clients. We're a little loosey Goosey here. Let's see Goosey. You're out of your mind. How the fuck is this supposed to help me? I got passed over for a job with a governor that I work my Azoff to get elected just before my apartment -partment was burglarized. My pug is linked all the furrow for belly and I had to borrow to order does from my mother who thinks I'm a loser to begin with to pay for therapy session with Notre Sir who unless I miss my guess is lying naked with his dick hanging out and photograph on the wall to my left which is why I'm not turning my head in that direction. Wow we don't usually get the primal screaming for at least a month but you are really really responding to the therapy. So what what time would you like to come next week. She slams the door and we hear through the Intercom in the waiting room where thick socks around Ari seen really much. It's better much much better much better than I was really focused on you much but I can't really give any notes because I really wasn't paying much attention but I can tell you. The Paula did did great there. I felt like I had to pull her back a little bit to make space for your character which I think once again it's kind of the focus of the scene here. Don't you think Paula what is the focus of the scene Bob the therapist Oh bob the entire scene okay might have really incidental and I do want to point out is kind of incidental until her great monologue towards the end but it does seem like another problem. That's getting into way of your audition processes that when even when you write yourself audition scenes you seem to be writing more interesting scenes for your scene partner yeah I knew that Ed would be great at Bob and I wanted to have plenty of room to stretch out move that sex's this. Let's go to network soon or when do you have to call for this really podcasting. I think Ed Ed podcast. Don't make a lot of money now. Editor have any any auditioning advice that you want to impart to Paula it can be mostly about about you but like we do like to leave here with a little advice for seriously. I won't give you some advice and this came from the guy whose name was Roy London. I work with Roy London. In one thousand nine. Hundred Ninety three was a great acting acting teacher and was the first time I worked with him. We work with a lot of friends of mine are doing very well and I thought I'd give it a try and I was working on the scene for show I was doing and doc was going fine and then he said said you know what I think is really the most interesting thing to watch in a scene in a movie a TV show or anything onstage in a play is how a character deals with pain and I thought yeah that doesn't sound very interesting. That sounds like stupid fucking thing he said and I went home that day and kind of thinking more about it to dismiss it further. I realized that's not what he said at all. He didn't say person writhing in pain. He said how a person deals with pain yeah and he was absolutely right. Laurel and hardy are carrying a piano down the stairs not only do they fall but the piano falls on them Meryl Streep in Sophie's Choice. You get your point here now. There's no piano that happens that happens off off-camera piano one of her kids buddy be complete. See you really understood so choice but comedy or drama. There isn't how her character deals with pain. I'm saying it's Universal Ursel comedy or drama how a character deals with pain how they dealt with an comic sense with piano and the fact that they weren't really hurt somehow with a piano fucking falling on them yeah yeah and she's very much hurt by what her choices you learn the end of the movie. What Sophie's choice is what that means? Yeah and it's a terrible thing and you understand why that character's been such pain in all along and so that was kind of universal rule for me going forward how a person deals with pain pain can mean conflict that can meetings -iety can mean physical pain and and do not see as I at first thought a person suffering and pain but how they're trying to keep the lid on the part time to keep the lid how to not react with the thing how to not cry has Denzel Washington and Glory. We see that tier go down his face right. It's a beautiful moment well. Did you notice that Paula poundstone was in terrible pain in her right nipple throughout that scene no she she did and the truth is I bring because she did it better than me. You could see her conflict and difficulty and her pain and her frustration that was all what she was carrying and that's that's interesting to watch Howard character deals with pain is what you need to find in any scene and deal with it for a comedy drama doesn't matter play movie Uvi TV show our character deals pain. I thought for sure you were going to say that Roy London said to you I think the interesting thing to watch is how a character deals with pain and and then he punched. You should have points because I wasn't listening when he first said you were just trying to slot me to wake me up and I got the ride home so it doesn't matter I got it and I've used it to great advantage ever since and again. It doesn't in fact it's worse you know really somebody flagrantly flailing and pain. That's not always the best thing to watch. I'm person tries to keep from crying from yellow on from reacting to keep the little suggesting Mr Begley that I was over the top not at all. We're not make you kept the lid on it very good. There was a point which you were fulminating a bit because you had to at that point. There was no way to keep that steam under pressure and control it was wonderful but you did at every turn was wonderful. I was maybe forty. percent is good. It's you you even time time you bring that up obviously back to my original note which was quite sincere. Preparation prepared did not look at the difference that's interesting. I think it'd be too hard and he said I thought you were fantastic but you know what I was GonNa Button up this segment. I don't usually after this but auto pasternak. Who Will you sing out the way you're saying us in with the help I get it? Okay okay so thank you Ed Begley Junior for sharing your expertise on this episode of outside the Actors Studio this job freeze God I in this case. That was very very nice. Wow she's good all all right coming up next the dysfunctional family and Ken Lewis Ebonics America continues their road trip at a time. I have to stop you the characters in Ken Liz Knicks America Erica are on hiatus this week there herring adventures have taken a toll and they're recovering here so then how will we gracefully mention your upcoming New Year's Eve appearance at the North Theatre in San Francisco. I guess we'll just have to let our audience down and they won't know they can find your unique. Comedy Style Ends on September Twenty eighth in Los Senlis at the theater at the hotel. It's tragic really they'll never know an October fourth. I'll be in Troy New York at the troy savings bank musical really a savings bank. That's a musical. There's an interesting story there. I'm sure but our audience is now cheated out of that information. Damn you characters in Kenya's Ebonics America Erica. Can't you get off your asses and plug the upcoming appearances of Paula poundstone. Don't be too hard on them. Timmy just got out of the well and Nellie was subjected to a lot of things that I don't even WanNa refer to again. Okay okay. That's fair our apologies to our faithful listeners. Maybe someday you'll get a chance to hear about the upcoming appearances of the iconic American Humorous Paula poundstone. I believe they are on her website. Paula POUNDSTONE DOT COM but I don't really know but I do know that we have another taste of Polish rap song about butter fingers. That's coming up right after this according to climate scientists we have ten years in sixteen weeks until the the earth begins to become uninhabitable evolve the things that need to change their there are many in the butterfinger recipe. There weren't any providing opportunity. That's that's not anyone can see. Can't they address that deep regret instead of just fucking with my chocolate. Some things need to change so some things need to change but not my butter fingers but not my fingers. That's an excellent different governor rap song that you created with producer Jay deal producer songwriter extraordinaire ping pong enthusiasts now to to you J. J. Came to the Ping Pong Party. He loved it. I love that you had an iconic hip. Hop Producer there at your at your show and he was very low key is he is he can be very low key. Yeah he's hung back. I have an announcement to make about your J. Single is that it's available on Itunes at least according to Captain Craig Captain Crank unless kept in crinkle. Let's down and when is that ever happened. Upton Greenland never misses killed pepper a man you might not have called not kill Pepe. Pepe must be my accent culpeper culpeper of course you might not have been here for a lot of episodes. This is pepe colpepper. Captain Crinkle has let us down on many occasions with butterfinger candy that that she made not delicious. Yes I'd say I let us down by not making it instead embezzling eating all the ingredients chips shit you and I I would say let us down even more by coming through and making it for us because that was a fucking disaster in that's ever it was inevitable few moments. I was jealous of captain culpepper. At least he had some good before he waits then India killed him. I had to live with the homemade thing all living with it now Mrs Colpepper all right but assuming that Bonnie didn't let us down people could go to I tunes right now and get that butter fingers wrap of yours. Yes called not my butterfinger not my butterfinger by Paula all the poundstone or do you have some sort of hip hop name now no no. It's not poundstone polyp. I didn't confuse MVP. I didn't want to continue this chart dozen listeners. We have thousands now. Now you know we started the show with the discussion of etiquette early on and I wanted to share an email from a listener about that Ellen Ellen brachman ultimately I won't do an impression. I'll just quote quote. I just finished yesterday's podcast first. Let me say I have a newfound love of the Tuba. I'm thinking the of incorporating it into my daily meditation secondly. I truly believe my nine long months. At Stevens College for women left me in good shape. I found myself answering during Paula's manners questions right along word for word with your expert. It was like a frigging do it. I'm so proud now. Ellen ladies don't say frigging the lady I notice she graduated from Stevens College just like our producer Tony Anita Hall and she tells me it. I used to be a finishing school because one of the things I noticed what she mentioned nine long months which usually I believe a college. Education is longer for years plus yeah she's zipped through. I believe in Tony can correct me if I'm wrong. I believe Stevens College model used to be if you've gone to Stevens. You're finished four seventy financially. Yes drew to there. Are you still paying off your couch. I yeah only about one hundred and twenty twenty thousand to go and you know what caused only all that was Kandla Zevnik who founded the Stevens College. MFA AND TV and screenwriting programs and he apparently didn't see Stevens memo about etiquette because he's one and this is interesting who week after week writes that incredibly juvenile fart and vomit jokes folks that I have to perform in his name segment that you have to Adam love doing the I've decided like any actor to throw myself into the part but does a program teaches for the school Stevens College which used to be finishing school now has made a name for himself in the world of podcasting with Kenya's F Knicks America which is steeped in Fart so uh-huh so so don't hold the Stevens College. MFA AND TV and screenwriting against that program because it's not a reflections not a reflection Mrs Mugabe inevitably really it is all you both run the Labor government Stevens College and jokes but you played them to to the the excess that that what is is the quote from Blake the road to the road to Nirvana's pay for access to God that totally Robert Blake cause a call from him is there. I'm sorry I is totally screwed that up okay. It's all right. It's not like you're an academic was supposed to be the coach just just no believe me please these Stevens in college and TV and screenwriting we really do not have a special seminar and Fart jokes and projectile vomiting not part of the curriculum people. I've met for example Tony Anita Hill who is a crack producer on our show. The people that I've met who've been can students are fantastic and shudder if they read Ken. Liz Knicks the listen to the well. I know Tony Anita whole does the right but she's no longer one. She's a she's a long. She's an alum so it really used to be a finishing school. While do you know in Massachusetts. That was historical Jordan Marsh Marsh Jordan Marsh had a and what's not to Jordan's fine furniture. No that's Burien Elliott. That's another yes another Jordan toward store. There was another word word for it. I don't think it was finishing school. There was another way it was something like that. Maybe it was it wasn't Masha. Yes it did and my mother told me one time I must have been in about high school and she told me and this is the woman that like every life had some things in it but she told me Pacific. It's awesome some challenges some bad decisions some challenges but she said to me one time that the biggest charm school that's what it was called okay she. She told me one time the biggest mistake she ever made was not sending me to the Jordan Marsh charm school. I loved that they named it that because that's Boston again so it's the Jordan Marsh Chops Mash chime school. That was the biggest mistake she'd ever made in a life of mistakes so that was her biggest. I don't think it was allies. I would love to be able to say that myself that the biggest mistake I ever made was not sending my children charms either that would be a great life to have or what a wonderful belief to have about your life now does Stephen still carry on this tradition of etiquette and find manners can with you're accepted center was quite genteel. Yes it is quite yell and Stevens College Undergraduate Program sow full four year wonderful wonderful college located in Columbia. Missouri has nothing to do with T. service or not not not nothing like that anymore. It's wonderful still a women's school. It's the second oldest women's men's college in America. It's just lots of old women well no. They're actually very young and our the oldest women's college this. This is a very fair enough are. MFA Program is located as a low residency program here in Los Angeles based out of the Jim Henson resonances. Let's see what else do like us. Tony experienced students come from all over the streets yeah. What does he know? Residents heard of that. I'd I'd homelessness. What is now residency? They come to intensive ten day workshop in August from all over America. We House them very nicely at the garden Beverly Garland Hotel all in the same room not everyone has their own rooms and then they get to go home to their place residence around America and work online with mentors each of a online but college hybrid yes yes and all the mentors members of the writers guild all working writers the I guess I claimed this current crisis apparently to my detriment this podcast current club. I I mean I wouldn't Ah Wild One word by the way I could explain I because my father taught at Stevens and he taught back in the fifties I can explain the origins of that term finishing school and explains the nine months reference here that they girls there when they got knocked up. No no no oftentimes what happened is a young woman would not want to complete her high school year ear and would instead go to Stevens College for her final year off she would finish high school. I thought it was he's like like polishing. Dot Com school. Yeah like layer was that ending the rough edges yeah there was definitely that in the fifties and forties where it was there there was an emphasis on etiquette and Ellen Brockman ultimately only thing so Joan Crawford went there at the point yes she didn't last but she went there at the point finished. She didn't graduate. I'll put I always felt a little bad for Joan Crawford in a way and here's here's why okay because my guess is my guess is that she said no wire hangers really nicely nicely several times. I am not suggesting that it's okay to you know uh-huh. I'm not believe in corporal punishment but I do think that when the story got told it sounds like just one night she blew up over wire wire hangers and my guess is just every night you go honey. Remember no wire hangers remember. These are very expensive. 'cause mommy doesn't want you to put these on wire hangers hangers and remember what Mommy said about the wire hanger in fairness to Jeffrey Dahmer I think yeah those pizzas were always late so infrequently use fairness. Joan Crawford is kind of my point here. I just think Jeffrey every dahmer the Cannibal. Yes yeah ordered those pizzas. They didn't come what I don't. What did he order pizzas because it didn't come e e people oh I I see what you're saying because pecking yes? I was kind of doing the Joan Crawford thing. It's not the same becca ironic fashion thank Mrs Culpepper Take Paula side only the same do not make still reiterate when she era rated just fine the first time I got two minutes culpepper gentle listeners please write us with your thoughts about etiquette or if you have a theme song entry or a short description of our show please emails at nobody listens to Paula poundstone at gmail.com. You could win a bar of hotels soap. I would say a Abbar Fresh Hotel Sacred Win Bara fresh hotel so but I think that the real features that it is autographed by Paula poundstone on rapper not on the soap speaking of hotel soap nope and of Kenya's ethnic and we have Ken right here. Can I just WanNa say you've done an amazing job with Ken Liz Knicks America which started as a travel log in turn really really really weird really really fast I was I have to say it all could us go to the incredible acting company that constituted Calisthenics America. Your role is timmy was memorable to me. Okay Hall. I think you're the Boston mother was just priceless. Absolutely and Tony Anita Yuen Sung hero of Kenya's epochs America thank her work as the heartbreaking taking heart breaking out all the time and Cameos by my son Ben Right as the the Hobo thought very amendment rubbing the things that this cast are going to be the actors that are in the breaking bad movie a really great I I I. I could see how that would work really well yeah. I know you've got something great cooked up for us for next week. I can't wait to see how this ends right. I'm I'm really looking forward to to hearing everyone's dulcet tones one more time and by Dulcet tones you mean far we come back right after this on this day in unremarkable history Ronald Reagan said Mommy you know I'd like for us to to redecorate Ron Juniors Room just so I can say to you. Mrs Reagan Tear Down this wall paper. Have you ever watched a movie so bad. 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Terrible Bosses, Best Fall Clothes, Working For Yourself, and Other Listener Questions

The Sunday Scaries Podcast

15:15 min | 1 year ago

Terrible Bosses, Best Fall Clothes, Working For Yourself, and Other Listener Questions

"My Name's will freeze in this is a Sunday scares podcast. You're cure for the Sunday blues every so often about once a month. I field questions on the Sunday scares instagram page which which is at Sunday dot scares. If you're interested in my daily mood board normally I can guess some of the topics that will be touched on TV. Suggestions hangover cures anxiety diety antidotes but for the first time ever this week. I got a question that I've never received before. What's your favorite part about doing. The Sunday scares podcast and I loved it. I've been hosting and producing the show for just over a year now and it's been one of the most fun times my life through it. I've gotten to get things off my chest that surprise even me. I've gotten and travel opportunities that have taken me thousands of miles away. I've interviewed people in different walks of life but when thinking about those things I knew that none of those could be classified as my favorite favorite part of the show as a whole instead it only seemed fitting that I had the realization that the absolute best part of my job is interacting with you. The listeners be doing these listener questions episodes or even interacting on twitter and instagram every Sunday. I'd be lying if I said that. The positive feedback wasn't something that fueled the fire of myself and this podcast so in that same breath I wanna thank you not only for following along and listening but for me to do something that I love weekend and week out so with that. Let's get to your questions. What are some tips for avoiding work on Sundays. When the email start coming in historically directly this has been one of the more difficult things I've had to overcome especially on Sundays when my body and mind have been trained to slow down and turn off much like trying to minimize your screen time time? It's much more difficult than just saying. Get off your damn phone. That's when the anxiety starts to creep in when you set your phone down in the other room and begin to wonder if the world's crumbling but you're too far away from I'm your phone you get notified of it while this wasn't necessarily a Sunday. It was a time that I simply wanted to tune out the rest of the world. I was on vacation rather than change the settings on my I phoned reduce my notifications. I simply turned all my notifications off. Yes all of them by e mails text messages in all my social media apps not not only this help me forget about the responsibilities. I didn't need be confronting but it was instrumental in making sure that my phone was a complete afterthought when I got back from vacation. I looked at my overall screen. Time in solid is on my phone less than forty minutes per day. Did I have a bunch of emails to confront kind of at least. I didn't feel like I was wasting my days off. Do you have any tips for dealing with a bad boss well without selling anyone out. Of course I do whether you hate your boss or hate. It'd be micromanaged. It's understandable that you may not love the person you're working directly under it makes you anxious when they linger on your desk. You dread the meetings. They're in charge of you. Cringe rindge their number POPs up on your phone but it doesn't have to be the end of the world the absolute best thing you can do a simple be the best you can possibly be at your job. I know that it sounds impossible. Given how much you probably drive the person in charge of you but just hear me out. If you're excelling in showing the rest of your peers that you're good at what you do not only do put yourself in a position -sition to succeed you gain credibility that you didn't have before reputation would begin to proceed you and suddenly your opinion matters more meetings and your expertise will be called upon more often often the thought of your hard work pain that person's checked as a tough pill to swallow. You can at least feel a sense of accomplishment fulfillment when your work would otherwise be overlooked in wants. Everyone starts to notice how well you're doing. Good things will come. I promise what are your top five must have clothing items when fall all rolls around when the temperature starts to hit the mid forties and leaves go from green to Orange. There's no better time everything your closet when you head out for the day one of my favorite fall items that I've taken to most recently has been the shirt jacket commonly referred to as a jacket it essentially looks like a Chunky button-down shirt that you can bring along toss on on the weather looks like it may cool down if you've been following along for a while you know my favorite has commonly been referred to as my oatmeal shirt as oatmeal season traditionally lands during the same as fall additionally when that's not enough. It's an absolute must have a waxed canvas jacket for those times when the shack it just isn't enough my news from Filton but most commonly see them from the English company Barber while they do take maintenance and re waxing every once in a while. They're sturdy enough coats to help you avoid the elements. Thanks for being compact enough that it's not a hassle to toss in your weekender bag last fall right around this time. I spoke highly of my next favorite the rugby shirt whether whether it's an astrologer from watching dead poet's society are just my passion for thick cotton shirts rugby's go a long way. You can toss it on over a t shirt for a layered. Look where it's so solo. It's sixty. Don't WanNa wear a jacket or even just lounge on the couch in one all day when your favorite team loses either way. It's a false stable additionally additionally in that same realm we have turtlenecks if that's somewhat of a comeback lately but in my opinion they never really went away. Mine is a little over the top a white turtleneck like with my initials monogrammed on the collar. It's definitely statement piece costume even but at the end of the day it's always nice to toss it on when the weather really dips and even even better. It's a hit at holiday parties. After falls ended in finally splurged piece I only one. It's mainly due to the price but cashmere sweaters on the perfect addition to any dresser closet. Whether it's a cotton cashmere blend that saves you a little money or an overpriced one hundred percent cashmere sweater from Barney's you can can actually tell the difference between Kashmir and every other fabric but if you take care of it and wash it properly it could last few years and when you're only breaking it out every year on mid-september. That's exactly how it should be. What are your favorite fall meals to cook on a Sunday afternoon. Remember that scene in Ratatouille him when the a food critic goes into the restaurant takes one bite of his meal and then gets taken back to a time in his childhood when he could smell his mother's cooking while I've a similar trigger and that trigger is his pot roast pot roast isn't my favorite meal and it's not even my favorite cut of meat but there's just something about it when we make it these days that takes me back whether I was walking in from soccer practice or just a cold day playing outside the smell of pot roast in the oven always slapped across the face when walking starving the French onion soup on top of it the carrots getting more and more tender by the moment in the Pearl onions just soaking up all the juices it made for an intoxicating scent that still triggers memories to this day living living in Texas. We kind of have to wait until November to make it. It's well worth a few years back. I pulled trigger on it too early making one and I found myself eating at during a Sunday night football game while it's it's about eighty degrees outside. I didn't want to admit at the time I knew I had made a huge mistake before. We get into more questions. This week's episode is brought to you by early bird. CD IF YOU'RE UNFAMILIAR WITH CBD don't don't be afraid to try it despite being taken from cannabis CBD's essentially the part of the weed that doesn't get you stoned and yes. It's totally legal my best use for it anxiety but that's not all it's good for additionally it can help with insomnia pain relief depression heart health and the list goes on early bird searches high and low for the very very best products oils topical tinctures capsules. Gumy's vape cartridges an even patriots. They started in two thousand eighteen with a simple mission helping think people find the best quality. 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You see new sites popping up everywhere these days my favorites though come from Vermont during my talk with will brian a few weeks back we touched on his collaboration with Shakespearian Vermont while he designed the cabin for deer snacks which is definitely one of my favorites. I also enjoy few others. There's as well the vermonter the Ping Pong cider. You're in the Arlo all find themselves in my refrigerator from time to time they're widely distributed but I always seem to check my local grocery store for four packs of Vermont as every time I'm there additionally. There's another local cider here in Texas that we've also had taken to the spice cider from Austin East siders that comes out every fall while may have a little more sugar then we'll find from shacks. Berry one SIP understand why it's a favourite simply put. It just tastes like fall. What are some tips for implementing a new routine routines are tough for me. It's kind of like when a teacher made you read a book that you didn't WanNa read. You know you needed to do it but is a lasting you wanted to do. You know mainly because you're being told to do it rather than doing it on your own accord bomb fairly settled and content with my current routine that doesn't mean that I haven't struggled struggled with them in the past the only thing that's really worked alerts on my phone. I absolutely hate to employ people to increase their phone notifications buffer implementing wanting a new routine. It's almost essential for me. I sent an alert that goes off the same time every day and I'll only stop the alert under two conditions when I begin doing that specific thing on my I own without the alert and when I find myself just canceling the alert more than fulfilling the task at hand. This worked wonders me when I was working in an office environment doing things I never wanted to do but I found. It doesn't work as well in my personal life either way what I've realizes that you only make something a recurring routine. If you really want to do it deep down and if not it's not worth beating yourself up over does the freedom of working for yourself compensate for the lack of security working for a company well the answer to this is a bit complicated. I love working for myself. It was never an end goal for me but it was definitely something that I've entertained for the better part of ten years but in order to do so I needed to make sure that I have the utmost security and foolproof plan to make it happen working for yourself as listener asked is definitely a freeing experience. You work on your own schedule. You can prioritize tasks as you see fit rather than how others want them done and you have complete ownership of everything you do when things are going. Well you kind of feel on top of the world when things are going poorly. That's when you created the security of a larger company when I decided to go on my own. It was difficult. I I didn't think about it from all angles putting money away for quarterly tax payments having to deal with 401k issues on my own not having built in health insurance while all these were necessarily learning experiences they definitely could not be classified as fun or freeing but at the end of the day I wouldn't change a thing especially at this point in my life mm-hmm. What is Your Tin Ary when you go to England and Scotland this winter for those of you who don't know going to England Scotland for two weeks over Christmas and new years this year uh I have two friends who live on that side of the pond and I've yet to visit them. Despite how long they've been there we leave Christmas Day in London early in the morning on boxing day or as we know it over over here in the states. December twenty sixth from there I'll be spending the day attending the Tottenham Brighton game and going to bed early. I'm anticipating a bit of Jet Lag and I'm sure indulge and a few pints lines before and after the game the very next day we'll be taking a train to Edinburgh where we meet up with our friends. Whether we stick around the city or had to the Scottish highlands. We're intentionally not what over scheduling anything because after all we are in vacation on New Year's day we're going to head back to London do all the things that are a little more touristy see the sights to some restaurants that are out of our price range and hopefully catch an FA Cup game before we head out you know if my fiance let me when you're working from home. Are there any days when you just get nothing accomplished. This is a question. I've gotten a lot when I've previously taken submissions from listeners and truth be told no. I don't really have those days anymore. Whether it's because of my intrinsic guilt or my fear of becoming a sloth I've never had an issue being productive at home in fact. I actually find myself to be more productive than I ever wasn't an office. Maybe it's that whole premise. I laid out earlier the one where you don't want to read a book in Middle School because you're being told to but I found that working from home is where I'm most comfortable granted. There are days a lot of days when I close up shop a couple of hours before five whether it's because I start work earlier because I don't commute or that. I just give into that three o'clock feeling feeling. I'm not really filled with guilt when this happens if anything it's valuable meantime that I never had in my twenties early thirties into combat it. I don't limit myself to work during the day. If I feel randomly inspired around eight o'clock at night the show goes on stress about healthy eating well. Yes ask a lot. I've mentioned time and time again but I've done whole thirty four or five times now thirty. I've definitely implemented in many parts of it in my everyday diet eh while the sounds like I may be beaten down by it really not that's actually the point of whole thirty to teach your mind which food you should be eating in implementing daily habits into your everyday everyday lifestyle. Perhaps stress out isn't the proper way to phrase my dietary habits instead. I consider myself more of a hyper aware person than anything eliminating dating added sugar reducing carbon take voting dairy all these things add up and stay top of mind for them at the grocery store out at a restaurant and if I have a particularly particularly big meal for even a long weekend of eating or drinking my awareness of it definitely leads to healthier decisions in the meal or week following. I don't consider those figuring times to to be cheap meals by any means but considering how little I work out. 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Betting On Ping Pong

Behind the Bets

1:02:36 hr | 9 months ago

Betting On Ping Pong

"Into the game. You're kind of your money. That's how you find out. It was bad for my pets were safe. That wouldn't be juice. Juice point spreads the pets. But teasers the parlays from Vegas to you these these behind. The bat soon commanded the latest behind the best. Podcast I am. Doug his area and we're taping. This on Thursday may fourteenth which is the two year anniversary of the past bobbing overturned the Supreme Court ruling. That enabled states to proceed with legalized sports. Betting obviously a signature day for those in the sports betting world and I'M NOT GONNA say it's one of those. You remember where you were when it happened but I do Such a significant. We had heard grumbling that it could be headed that way but it was like an. I'll believe it when I see it kind of thing. For at least that was my perspective. And that Christina. We're up to eighteen legal states right now. Operational state so we're slowly but surely inching our way their lowly bit. Shirley. But it's interesting what happens with the pandemic. See what's GonNa Happen with sports worlds but I almost wonder with local municipality needing more revenue. If sports betting will more states will get there sooner than without the pandemic right like. It's Kinda like they can't. They can't resist it like they once wanted to. Yeah I I honestly think that's a very good point. I think during all of this. We've kind of realized without sports. You need something and I think a lot of people you know you've mentioned before having the rich to get back into betting sports not really being thing the past few weeks. I I think that's an interesting point because there is resistance by some states but at this point they may not have a choice along those lines. You mentioned the ish. And that's why I'm so excited for this podcast table tennis That is sort. I wrote about it. FOR ESPN DOT COM Chalk section. And it's been fascinating talking to other oddsmakers had sort of it's taken out kind of life of its own if you will and a lot of different leagues up next Sean Harnish. Who is into the Russian table tennis though the professionally? The men's league like I am is a pro better first time ever have on. The podcast really excited to break down. And I have communicated a lot the last couple of days about our favorite players and all that and just kind of laughing in our tendencies that we see some of these guys and we're GonNa have a conversation about it and you may think we're crazy would you may laugh and maybe both at our craziness you're going to be laughing but all in all it's a lot of fun and I hope hope everyone listens. Are you excited Christina? I am very excited all right. Let's get to it. Stop Hammer time. Time now to welcome in someone who has never been on the podcast but when you you said the back signal out for Ping Pong betting you need to need. Lsu people are there in the. Here's where Capes as as we like to say. Sean Harness joins us. Sean how are you man? Good man good it's You know if you told me I would be doing this a year ago. I'd at you. That's that's for sure but crazy times call for crazy. Mentions I guess for sure for sure. Now we're GONNA definitely get in get into to table tennis. Roll up our sleeves so to speak but just a little bit of background for you and listener sort of know. Like how long have you been a pro better and things along those lines jewelry? Yeah I mean I think like everybody else. I grew up loving sports playing sports. I did play baseball in college I majored in sports writing. Got You know some cool internships in the Boston area Always love sports and started dabbling with betting on it now in the early nineties. It wasn't as easy you know if you weren't in Las Vegas. There was some shady sites. Or if you knew a bookmaker you know you could get it. But it wasn't readily available so you know as a seventeen eighteen year. Old Kid in college wasn't easy to place bets but I always enjoyed it and you know as as time went on I I really got into the analytics things. I started going to the Sloan Conference in Boston. The first year was there and analytics I started popping up. This is before social media And you know if you if you went around the Internet back then you could find some chat rooms and places that were dedicated to sports betting and stuff and You know so I got involved there. I started betting. A Lotta baseball with some making my own lines for college basketball and having a lot of success and You know I was always told you know you should do this for a living. And how can I get your plays and like I never thought about selling plays or anything like that until people came to me and wanted them because I would always post them. Sometimes I wanted in the chat and so I said let me give this a try. Never thinking it would be full time But you know it took advantage of a weak market. At the time I can say with With wines and with offerings back then and just started building my bankroll and just really got into it. And I knew that if I buy dedicated my life to it I would be much better because balancing work and You know trying to be handicapper wasn't very easy And so I was lucky enough to have enough money to take a year off and really dig into it and it wasn't the greatest year but I knew if I stuck with it that things would be good and you know I just kept kept the most thing the best thing I ever did was have notebooks and write everything down. It was never much for algorithms than anything like that but I kept doing. It kept doing it and took it seriously money. Managing was the key. I took three. Oh all of a sudden my third and fourth year in college was all about you know money management and everything like that so it did take it seriously and here we are twelve. Thirteen years later and You know I quit my job probably ten years ago now anyway and and living the life as you say is people who say. But it's not the glamorous life that's for sure I mean. This was probably the Kobe thing. Probably gave me my first Two days without any quote unquote in ten years. You know Chris Mornings thing it's always a grind especially when you have clients that are relying on you. You know it's Christmas morning All holidays you're up and doing it so I didn't realize how stressed I was about it until there was no sports it took me and I'm not even kidding almost two weeks for me to not wake up in a panic thinking what time is it do. I need to get plays in. That really made me like take a step back and say okay. Let me let me readjust. What's going on and get out of this grind and You know I still needed something in. Pong came along and I'll tell you it just sort of sparked that love for betting again in having fun I think that was definitely The key to even getting involved in that. But that's a little bit about my background. I'm really analytic space. I really love the small conferences in college. Or it's bed on because the human aspect not only the edge. You get with the lines if you know a little bit more about that than the books But the human aspects involved. You know we're talk especially Ivy League. There's no people. There's no kids. That are on basketball scholarships. They're playing for the love of game love of the game. And and if you can find that where you can bet on the love of the game or the human aspect. I think there's a huge edge you can find there and I sort of correlated with Ping Pong. We'll get into it but I I definitely feel that here but anyway I in a weird way. This Kobe thing really put my life in perspective and then Pingpong came along and showed me how it used to be. How why I got into this profession in the first place because it's a grind as you know. Yeah I know. It's a lot to digest there. And thank you for sharing so much I would say just talking to guys over the years and my own experience like definitely money-management and bankroll kind of all that stuff is like such a key thing because the margins are not huge right and so you can't just get sloppy and I think being a meticulous record keeping that was extent for me to do all that Sort of like really really sort of helps you take the next step if you will Okay so let's get into Ping Pong stand united. We're talking last night or the other night and had a very similar sort of approach in terms of how we got involved like you started hearing buzz about it. You're like all right. Let me let me say it's all about and they started wanting to kind of more curiosity than like a potential money making opportunity and then Just take me through your experience there. Yeah like you said it was sort of you know seeing the the the rumblings you know and seeing the lines being offered and The instant gratification bets. I like to call them. You know where it's like. Wow you watch this. And it's like men fifteen minutes done. It's like a first period or whatever it may be Now in my whole professional mind. It's like okay these these this can be a slippery slope. You know you got games going on in results every fifteen minutes so taking a pause back but looking at it and saying okay. This is crazy. 'cause as you know if you've seen it it's just a REC league. It seems like right and so I I was hesitant. I I I got into. It started betting it and you know as they say the first ones always re of course I had a great first day and then I was on often running You know still not betting I would anything else but having fun with it and Just intrigued I think is a good word. You used intrigued at what this was all about. Well like you said you know you do something every day after few days. It's like Nice Club. Don't get me wrong but then you're like all right. I'm missing something here. You need that lack so in what we're talking about is the Russian pro league so there's basically in in I've done some research actually just got off the phone with David Purdham. It has a great job working on a story for this but basically there's different leagues right. There's female there's buyers there's different countries and there's different leagues now. We sorta just coincidentally gravitated to the Russian pro league in mind Gaijin. I really have no expert off but like it's just It's like the lowest of all these so you can tell by the quality of the broadcast in like the quality of the court and quality the scoreboard but basically this looks like pro league. But it's like I would say definitely like minor leagues they're not. I went to the Russian website table tennis. They're not ranked. They're not on their radar. There's no uniform. They're wearing stuff that like some guys wear the local Y. and it's very barebones operation to say the least and It's been though. Yeah that's that's a good way to put it and So I just watch these guys and there's like bow three matches at a time all day. There's about a four hour window which is probably where everyone's sleeping in Russia time but it is so interesting and my understanding and this is. I'm pretty confident that this is what is so. There's this like tears or group play. Let's call a group play from like one to ten or so maybe one eight and in each group is like a handful of guys they five guys and they play each other all day all week and at the end of two or three weeks there. Some relegation going on but between all the groups so one guy moves down a group and the other guy moves up group like the best of the best in the so. There's just more kinda funneling towards competition and they had like playoffs each day. I think that is a little bit confusing there. And I've asked around one really but I think that's the best way to group play so they all know each other really well and one guy can have another guy number the other guy in its cottages. The top guys are legit good And actually stay away from those matches because it just comes down to a couple points here and there one guy hits the tape and falls it. You know it's the margin of error is so small and there's really really tough to get advantage and for those also listening that it's three out of five each seats set up to eleven. You GotTa Win by two. So sometimes you'll get marathon I centers and and as I leave anything out in terms of the background there no I think you got it. I think You know when I talked to you yesterday. You say you know what an expert but I think you piece together everything. Pretty well from Who've you've talked to in observing it's tough like you said there's no there's no standing you can find anywhere It's it's sometimes tough to to pick off Exactly what's going on but there's definitely relegation like you said there's group play in although it does go on all it's not like a players playing at midnight and then playing at six in the afternoon all the time. It's we Staged in a way where You know it's one group to the other and I tend to stay away from that first group more so than like these second third stages. Yeah is it for the same reasons. I was alluding to yes exactly. It's like It's almost to put it in a way. It's like betting on the red sox yankees like anything's going to happen. You don't know what's going to happen Unless you unless can get like a really good price but you can't anymore on one of the guys it's just a coin flip and You know it's good. It's good competition but it's stuff to better. Yeah I to make the parallels like would you bet on the versus like Jaanus one on one or would you bet on like you know You know trying to think of a Devon Booker against like you know the first Guy Third Guy Yes of an like that and then it's like you might have to lay to fifty but you know what's what's more what's more likely to pay right. So that's the thing that's been fast. There's some there's some pretty hefty money lines especially those bottom tier guys that we we liked to frequent when we watch and like you said these matches are twelve minutes or so twelve. Fifteen minutes in its. Hey if you lay. Four dollars is a twenty percent. Return on your money if you will and you know. It's maybe it's worth it that kind of thing. So how do you approach these money lines? Because I imagine. You're not laying a lot hefty money line in baseball per se. But I I would imagine you're more inclined to do it here exactly and and it was like my radar. Went off instantly when I when I wanted to do it. You know my brain said Oh but You know I'm coming around to the idea of laying you know more than minus three fifty. I did it yesterday And it's just like you said you have to do it. The Books of corrected where they're going to put the line out there but I'll tell you this you're weighing five to one but if you're watching it the guy is has a way better chance of winning than five to one odds like the true odds on some of these matches should probably be you know almost minus eighteen hundred or something crazy like that though you gotta look at the value within that and it's tough to talk about value when you're weighing giant money line but when you're watching it and you you sort of looking at the true odds on it you know. Sometimes it's not that bad and throwing it in a parliament if you have. The option is obviously the way to go. And I tell people you know in any sport if you're laying a big money line 'cause you like somebody you know. Don't go and seek out a second person to put in there because you like that first one if you have the option to do an open parlay which a lot of these books offer now if them in their wait until you find another one and add to it then you don't have to always seek out something that's not nearly as strong or that you even that was even on your radar to begin with just the fill in apar- away so there's a little advice. I can give when it comes to this. We HAVE THAT OPTION FOR PARLAYS. But otherwise you're gonNA have to lay it on some of these but you're gonNA win money period. I mean so far so good right. Yeah and that's the fascinating part about this is just such new territory for basically everyone I mean. I don't think there's been like sharp handicapping pingpong until now so to speak And I just think it's been really cool. What now you know you kind of. Wake up to some some result so there are some crazy. You mentioned laying some big Some big money lines are this guy von Right. So there's a guy with the last name von and it's kind of middle of the pack in his group and he is what lost like twenty two Georgy or Gregory is lost twenty two in a row. But he's good he just is a really good box and you just can't get a win so some of these it. There's some inflate you know. You Might WanNA perceive as value. But if you can't win he can't win because it is real if you think about it. It's it's really like a true outcome. You Play five-set it's one on one so I like the individual nature of it all. I liked immediately like you mentioned. It's like ten to fifteen minutes and then It's just like the strategy and then the head to head components matchups are more favorable for certain guys and there's just like an authenticity to it because like you're on your own right you don't see make the lean on and it's just like a really because this level of play makes it more intriguing. I think than the high level more entertaining to watch. But this stuff's more fun to bet I would say one hundred percent. It's entertaining it's fun to watch and it's like you said. I mean he's I think it's up to twenty five in a row now man this time. We're taping this and thirteen those where three. Oh right and like you said he wasn't terrible so that's another thing. If you the the one thing you who do have access to is past history right you can see past results on certain sites and You gotta be careful with the relegation. 'cause you can see a guy like him losing twenty five in a row. You don't know that he might have got sent down and all of a sudden he's kicking but you don't know why and so you've got to be careful with that but Yeah it's it's the human aspect gets me all the time. There's certain guys that just you can tell give up And certainly if you it. It's one of those. You have to watch in my opinion to really get a feel for some of these guys because like I said like you said they're human they're not professional athletes. They're humans like just like all of us and it's pingpong in a room like if they get irritated they're to be pissed and right. Yeah Yo yo yelling. You'll hear some yelling. You'll hear some yelling from over if you listen to the audio and like the dudes are like you and I mean there's some guys you're like man they're just hanging out talking over Pingpong. You're wondering how competitive is and other times they're all into it. It's it's just. It's a lot of fun. I I think I've enjoyed the aspect watching it on but Okay so what are some like you mentioned you lades? What are some kind of like general betting sort of philosophy that you said like you've waited awhile. You're not forcing play. The what are some other philosophy. You my whole thing is Like don't get caught up in the you and I were texting while the don't get caught up too much in revenge. I mentioned that they play each other. So much. Like the revenge factor if you will the narratives like not really applicable. I thought you you brought us some stuff. That kind of opened my eyes to sort of like the fatigue factor. That's something I really put my finger on that you've opened my eyes to. Yes so it comes from. I always had an angle in sports especially baseball and basketball of How do you do going into an off day? How do you do coming out of an off day? So I've always had that in my head and so that was in my head looking at this. Like how many days in a row do they play in? I haven't found Ryan or reason. It's not like you play three. Get One off It there's really nothing so sometimes in like for that I'm terrible with names but Roselend scoff at. Say 'cause all look it up but I gotta I know exactly Dmitri Makarov or something like that right you look at him over the last week. He's played it's time I think it's like seven days in a row right but he basically every other day off and what I mean by that right. He lost every game on May. Tenth may twelve may fourteenth right in between ninety. Plays pretty good And so going into those off days he does great right when I say off days again. I mean just the days that he basically shows up. It doesn't even play. He's losing three. Oh and a lot then you know coming out of it. He looks good like may fifth. He ended foreign one off that day right and then may may six. He comes in goes six and one. He had an off day in between so in between that he goes ten and two. I'm not looking to bet on him though I'm looking at I'm looking to fade him on those every other day. So he's playing. Well the next day is taking it off. It just is what it is. I don't I don't see it as a coincidence anymore. After ten days of looking at it and it's just so cut and dry enjoying watching it in the numbers that He just he fatigues it's more than fatigue and if you watch it it just looks like he's they're going through the motions and then I'll flip the switch the next day so those are the things that I don't think are baked into the number. I don't think people know books are looking into in depth like that But little things like that. I think you can Really hone in on And again don't try to get you batum and then don't bet on hone in on what you know is one hundred percent and Three straight every other days of losing every single game is pretty good so you fade them every every day and you do all right see I feel. He's like very easy young and I think he's just Kinda like raw like I think he's got the game but I think like I think he he goes for the home runs shot a lot and frankly a lot of these guys do and I feel like he just time. He's going to be really he's going to be good. Yeah Yeah I agree with you but so we talked about the different leagues worst. Vox sorry the different groups like the worst group is quite an adventure to watch right. So the basil bad odds the Babkin and Tandoor. Who's really struggled at times and I'M NOT GONNA lie to the people that like. It is like sometimes they just can't return serve like they're just like the hidden the net all the time now. It's I'm sure it's incredibly more complicated than it looks on the Internet when you want but you wonder some guy struggle other guys can't look their spin on this stuff. I mean it's it's it's it's not easy but some guys it's just like it's it's it's an adventure to watch some of these matches. Yep and you know it it. It really is in what sort of gross about it too. Because it's by the end of the day I don't know how often and if you've ever watched it they have that little the little table with the quote unquote referee and it's not been electronic scoreboard. They is the old school flip the number and then had those cardboard little stanchions. The bet fly stanchions that letter while like that right before that they throw their soaking wet towel into two wedding and they'd never change it or anything like that so by the end of the day. These guys terrible. They're in they're sweating like all over everything and it's a train wreck the watch like you said. Yeah Unit especially in the damage with Cova. D'you makes you see things a little differently mad. But but Is it's a lot of fun and actually. I mean there's a lot macktaz I'll watch that. Don't have you know it's just like it's really cool to watch especially I love and then if you go over to like the Ukraine Some of those leagues the Second Cup of Mike. Awesome stuff so I I think people should go check it out just to watch like cool sports and some that's a little different but it's these dudes are pretty impressive So in terms of like the betty philosophy like would you rather? I mean this is all. It's kind of dumb question because it's so so dependent on who you're talking about. Some of these are big money. Lines are based on the opponent being just fade material and the others are being based on like the talent of the guy of the player of the other guy. You're betting on. So which would you rather like? Sorta lay focus on When you if you have a big money line or even just a big big play I in this league I one hundred percents want to bet on a guy failing than succeeding right so I mean we know the bag is going to be bad so I'll lay Monday money line against a really bad guy. I'm not weighing the money line because I like the guy that I'm betting on. I just think there's a way better chance that the guy he's facing will completely fallen his face more so than the better guy. Definitely giving an eight eight performance if that makes sense so. I'm glad you said that. Because in the middle of the night A Guy last name. Bassil espy was laying about four fifty again. Safranov and Osmin. Kinda like the punching bag of that lead bottom group but Saturday night won the first set fourteen. Twelve the second set. I believe the same score fourteen twelve and then he swept and so as a plus like three hundred dogs swept the match. Now it's very rare losing a bunch You now but like you're also laying. Big Lumber with is not very good in this case. It'd be Basil right and it's a it's a head scratcher it is in. I don't think you're going to get rich casing big dogs in this week. I just don't think you're GonNa get them because you and there's times where you'll see really good guys that they just checked out. It seems like they lost two in a row. They lost three zero which they never really do. They have one more match left In maybe they're going into an off day and they're a big favorite. I'll I'll bite on the dog. They're you know but it's really situational betting big time in situation situational bedding to me when I'm taking the dog it. There's going to be like a lot of good reasons behind it. None of which is the talent for the for the underdog. If that makes always it's always dating the talent rather than betting on the talent for me. It's I'm glad you mentioned that because the live betting part. I'm I'm kind of disappointed. Took forever to get into this because I think this is such a huge part of the lie betting especially at the of these big favorites lose a the first set because so when you're playing six matches in a day I imagined fatigues a big component. This and you're thinking oh just ping pong how much fatigue but go watch. They're running around a lot. 'cause it's not just like hit hit winner right. It's long rally and in part of the art of these rallies is making the other guy run so think of like a competitive tennis match where you're drinking and then you're hitting lob shot or just putting a deep and the guys run back obviously it's not the same ground to cover in table than regular tennis but it's the same concept short spurts in these guys get tired and you can imagine sort of stamina on your ear. Your fatigue factors into like your art of the shot and the just like there's a gamesmanship to it and I think so a guy maybe pacing himself facing an inferior opponent and lose game one and then sort of buck up and I think he can find value on favorites at Lucifer set. Absolutely Yep and you gotta remember. There's no ballboys either. Guy Hit like they chase the ball. After each point they go and get the ball so doesn't sound like much but you're playing a point you turn around you getting it and you get right to it. It's not like you know Say where this thirty seconds in between a pitch they go chase the Paul. Come right back. Serb it right up and go. It's it's really nonstop and I mean you can just see it on them. Yeah maybe a lot of it's the booze coming out. Who knows but they're sweating. They're getting a good workout. And when you get to live like you said so Even within if a if a favorite gets down early the line adjusted a lot If they're down one set and it's you know it. Hey we we see it a lot where people come back you lose the first set and they come back and win easily We're really gets crazy is in the fifth set To if a guy goes up say four points to two now even if it was the favourite. That's down two points in that fifth set. He's like a three hundred dollars like the swings are gigantic. And you just got to try to get that that play in before the next point because it's always fluctuating. And that comes down to where you bet in it and all that but There's definitely money to be made if if you're a professional who live bets and I know that's a whole probably the biggest thing coming now. Is You know really professional. Better suited. Only bet live You could do some damage in this league. I feel like right don't you don't you feel that way. I would agree and and I think that's the cool component to this and I guess you know. Obviously there's similar to tennis betting but we talked about the aspects. You like I think another aspect is. There's no clock so a guy can be down ten to write matches to allow set to eleven inning comeback. Win Right so there's just Obviously there's a reason guys tend to and Mike at like ten five ten six win but I just think it's so it's been fascinating. Maybe I'm just in withdrawal of other sports but I've really enjoyed and your you mentioned like the money line fluctuation and I think that's really important so like inset one if a guy's up five two minus two fifty favorite he's probably GonNa be like minus twenty still match right but obviously the swings on each point. The volatility be inset. Five is so drastic. Because there's less time left it's just like NBA or NFL or anything like that. There's early in the game. Obviously of Alabama goes down seven. Nothing the game line is only changed a little bit versus like the end of the game. So it's just but I think the human element and I think the fatigue factor. I talked about earlier. Just a guy may be. Kinda taking things easy. I mean Look all-sports. They're not robots not played in computer. Like you go all out and every point right. Europe ten one and the guy is a shot. You'RE NOT GONNA go diving for it but if it's ten ten in the fifth said you're GONNA go diving for it so it's very simple kind of logic and you can end up with the money lines. I mean obviously that the live lines can't be exactly. They're probably not as a fine tuned as you would think right right exactly and like if you knew the if you're really into the algorithms of live betting. I guarantee you that these are so far off and they're just hoping that people aren't spending the time to do this but like you said I think it's it's almost like they just created a new sport out of thin air in my eyes and in my world basically. That's what they did. I mean I know of the sport but betting on it. It's just really cool and I know people are thinking enrolling. Hear it all the time. Oh you you're you know. Why would you ever bet it? Just you know first of all you know. Pump your brakes. Relax have some fun with your life. Don't so always analytical and by the book and Fryatt that's all say just try it and I guarantee you'll have some fun with it when a lose you don't go betting you know two percent of your bank row of three presenting bankrolling every bit. Just have some fun with it and I guarantee your wife I guarantee you have fun and it and if you know you know if you put some time and effort into it you could definitely make money. I think it's really easy to find. Spots with certain guys You'll you'll come across your favorites and I totally agree with you. I don't like betting on the on the lesser people than the better people. So yeah I it's it's funny. I was talking like I said I was talking to them and I kind of like I watched this one guy describes him and I was like. Oh it sounds like that's exactly what you kind of get a feel for the stuff. And he's like so you you an into this at all. I'm like no. I just like a couple screens and I just. It's really fun to watch. And there's nothing else to do so to speak and it's it's you get to know these guys in their tendencies and you're like if you've watched sports in your life right and you sort of a cerebral player if you will or Seabra cerebal fan you start to notice things like how backhands pretty bad he favors it or other guys sort of have. Their approaches are almost one trick ponies. Does this Guy Yank Shove Alexi of who likes to hit? Couple deep baseline shots an sorta like when he can tell his opponents gonna hit a soft back and he runs around. The side of the table. Look sets up the forehand. There's that approach. There's this guy Volkov who's yes like six four really tall. He's got you can get to anything so he doesn't go for a. Lotta kill shots just perpetuates the rallies and obviously the rallies are tough shots dinks and all that so eventually sort of his game plan is his opponent is to in the net or out of balance because he can get to anything so we just keeps the rallies alive alive. And that obviously increases the chances of an unforced error even a forced air by his opponents. So everyone sort of has their different Approaches in styles just like anything to get an NFL teams running game running team out of chief. Her era air attack so like anything. There's sort of Blueprints to their success or game plans and tendencies and it's just fun this sort of short obviously in this day and age at quaker's better and just enjoy it. And you kind of handicapped match. Yeah and and you know what's good is they placed so much every day that it's almost like you're getting a full season in a week right like you can see him thirty times in a week and really get a feel for them rather than okay. I remember this guy last week. You know if they've played right a week or something that you went into it but you can really get to know them in a short period of time because of the amount they play and you may you know you mentioned the ashes which is one of my favorite is the Ben on like he beats guys you supposed to be. He beats them three. Oh and what it really like is when you look at his loss. It's not like he loses to one or two people all the time. Meaning like there's some whole in his game where people can exploit it. His losses are sort of like okay. You lost him once once him once. And it's sort of like okay. He was up against a guy that was playing really good that day And so he's He's stay consists. I think he's one of the most consistent players down in that level in probably my favorite guy to bet on for his ability rather than fading guys you know for their effort so I'm glad you brought that up because I want to ask you some of your favorite players. And he absolutely is one of my favorites. He's like in the top three. Because you know you're getting maxed effort on every point and you know he's GonNa come prepared. There's a lot of guys who have a lot of mental mistakes. He doesn't have many at all he is. He's very focused very reliable. I just like professionally young kid. But he's a very professional like I just. I like betting on his matches your point. I think it's well said. He wins the matches he supposed to in ironically. He's playing right now. Victor even odd and he was a about a minus two thirty favorite. I WanNa say and have won the first two sets. That's another part about live betting a guy goes up to. Oh and if it's a competitive player usually the guy. The dog wins game three. I say usually obviously there's a lot of threes but you can kinda look for it right just in. That's one thing and I think this is all a sports like you know you remember what you last saw. Just because a guy dominates the first set eleven one eleven four. Don't think he's going to dominate. The rest of the match at the game line was about a pick them. There's a lot of times they're down nine three and they're like punting to the next step because they remember their pacing themselves. They have they have to win. Three out of five and some some points reser based on on games but right not not also a lot of times. There's gamesmanship Because each quarter or each set like it doesn't matter if you lose eleventh nine or eleven to the same so just because there could be a lopsided I said like I'm looking boxer right now. I lost eleven through the first set. One the next set eleven. Three so There's a lot of kind of pacing oneself but both these players because it is an again to your point there. Six games or six matches in a day so if they're pretty fatigued and you're down nine two that's your like let's just was live to fight another set ear. I'm not gonNA come all the way back and expend all that energy so there's definitely some handicapping along those lines. Another guy love. The Bet was actually playing right now. He might be. I think he's number one on my prefer. Betty is eager pull. It is very very similar reasons. You know what you're getting with him. He's solid gets to every ball in just reliable a very reliable player. He's he's a couple of notches above the chef. So he'll lose a couple here and there but man. He is Steady Eddie. He is and he's relentless to watch him it's like he want he wants. The PACE is important. He wants to go and Max effort again. There's not many guys with Matt effort that you see those two mytalk to there's plenty of guys that you know are good like the confusing thing for me. It's the tough thing is why what's his name. Tur- Shkin Hershon dry. Trust him trusting Ruskin. Yeah when I first started betting on him he was great he was like it was ten in one and then like you went formed for something. But you know I I was late to start that none of my stock betting on me goes four and four. It moves a little money in the next day. Then the wheels came off and he just lost sixteen of his not like next seventeen. Twenty one of twenty four You know and it's like what happened in so I I just can't win with him anyway but there's a lot of that which tells me either There's something going on in their life because all of a sudden they're really good player and there's no relegation and then they just you know for three four days now 'cause you guys remember when we say like losing sixteen of Seventeen. That's only a few days. It's not like it's three three right losing streak but there's something there you go from ten in one. I don't know if you might my assets of him he's in a goodly rising a good group play. I just think you did notch. I think he's inconsistent. So he has great like stats. But it's tough to win three out of five against good players when you're not consistent and that's really what a lot of like you'll see winning shots by a lot of players but can they preserve rallies and then hit the winning shots or preserve rallies just outlast. The other guy two unforced air and I think that's the key because there's so much spin on these balls in there so much eat on in speed on these boats like I didn't trust I think eventually he'll be relegated one group and he'll be really good bet on Guy. I just think he's a little out of his element and playing above his head right now. That's my assessment. Now I made. I wasn't watching when he was winning matches. But I think he's just kind of like a notch below when you're talking about five sets it's funny. I have one note next to his name in my book and it says wait for relegation and pound him. Yeah I I I completely agree with you that it's just a little bit now. I've seen sparks of him Awhile back and I know like you said when you get down competition it'll be pretty good But I would you agree. There's a lot more Painful people if you will like guys were you twist like why am I put my money on him again? I can't believe it right. So the guys who burn me a lot think about this. There's a few out there. I'm not GonNa lie you. It's probably the first impression thing and you're like Why do I keep you know the definition of insanity I'm trying to think some of that. Top level I learned the hard way on those top level. Select tops here. Guys the Abramov. If I'm pronouncing some of these names I apologize. The Sheer Cov like that level of guys is really Mirsky Lynn. Moore's licken in Pskov Those those four guys like see him. I'm like Oh my God this guy sick in. Let's say he wins. Three one three one was like probably like a twelve ten win at eleven eight win like so again comes down to a couple of points and you could have loss so you have this like any is a great player but he then you learn the hard way. He's playing other studies as well and that these the margin of error so I had to learn the hard way some of the on you know to attach to some edge because they were so good and sometimes you're you've been watching the Lesser League lesser competition. Place you guy's amazing and then you're like wait a minute. The Guy He's playing is also amazing. Yeah I completely agree with that Michelle what's his. They must jen cough. Is that how you pronounce stop? There's chance Gov and then there's also mirth Lincoln I believe his name's Dmitri so I think he's the best one because I think when he goes head to head with those other guys he's always at least a small favorites He's tall black hair. Yeah Insurance Gov is too intense intense and some of these guys are built like rugby players. Linebackers it's awesome to watch him go fast and they get the hand eye. Coordination is incredible. I believe it is so a top level. It's just amazing to watch. And then the lesser is not so much but it's So the WHO? Who are some of the guys that like you find most painful to bet? Yeah and before that you see us sort of you know tripping over some of the names you and we just had this conversation right before we went on air with this was Some books accidentally put wrong names up right. So you'll be. You'll think that you're betting on it. You see the match up and you sort of have to make sure and double check a couple of sites and make sure you betting on who you are. Because then it's just the discretion of the book on how they want a great but You know I see spelling mistakes all the time and Burgum. I really betting on this guy you know and we're talking not just in the middle of name but you know some of the names you can say okay. Whoever was typing this up is trying to sound out the name in his head. He doesn't have it in front of him and he didn't put that why or the Z. At the beginning of his name you know so. Just be careful. Make sure you bet on who you are. Because there's a lot of similar names as you know but painful wise That machines cough. I mean when he's on he looks really good but when the wheels fall off the you know it's all day long if he has if he has a match where he was up to and loses or even up to one and loses early in the day bait 'em like but at the same time like you. I think it was may twelfth. One six in a row only one went to five sets. He was dominating smashing it. Everything was going well for him. But then I've seen him down two sets in just smash returns ten feet off the table like just stand there swing and it's just like fees like over the guys had not not a care in the world and you just you the raft. Sorta leaning. They're on like swamped over with his hand on one. You know one hand flipping the things. Don't even look just. It's so you could tell that sometimes guys just give up and I would say the refs there too. They okay. You can't do that. You know like if you saw that in tennis the referee will get up and say you know what are you doing? You can't just smash returns into the stands What did you say? The Rep sort of have zero to know really Won't put we should clarify there. Most of them are just not rest. Their other player filling in doing the scoreboard. So they're not like officials in supervisors. They're just kind of Third Party to change the scoreboard the manually do it. Sort of like intramural. The today And then occasionally you'll see like I think there's a couple of females that help out in contributed so and I know they're not playing a different circuit. I'm just not familiar with. They're definitely not playing this league. So yeah but it and we should. We should clarify so there's Menshikov and then there's also like Mertz Merkley mentioned cottage and sort of like the middle of the pack groups. And then the other guy look the ever modern Sheera That's different guy so I think my favorite Guy Watch because it's so I mean he's theatrical and we'll let me ask you. I don't WanNa give mine away. Who's your favorite guy? That's kind of my favorites watch. It's a tough one most favorite to watch. Oh You I. I liked smirnoff a little bit because of his Baird and his bond and everything any Denton sneaky. Quick on everything. Yeah yeah so I like him. What's the what though and everything because we're in the time that we're in? He's constantly going to his towel. And it bugs me out. It's like why don't someone just get a towel rack. Just as simple rack to hanging out but anyway my mind is how that was going to be another one and then the other one. I can't pronounce the guy that begins D. H. U. L. Y. Is that the zoo. Blaine guy those those by yeah. He's he's really good. He's one twenty in a row. He just got promoted Sullivan. He's frustrating for me because he was dominated competition in just went dominate. The I'm expecting domination. Start to finish. But he's so good and he's a very good that on guy but he'll weltman guys hang around for too long as far as I'm concerned based on his talent level but I think the national os just first of all just so people understand. He's the oldest of a mall. I believe you guys on twitter calling GRANDPA and he. He brings his arm back. And just Wales on the ball like the third or fourth point his someone's rugged down to me. They're like he's to all the hang out like do these long rallies because he's not gonNa last so he just cocks his arm back in fires and it is awesome and everyone just Kinda last. But he's good you like in the bottom half but not the top of the bottom at if you will and groups. He's probably like the seventh groups and he's good and he he just into the guys who he faces and just hope he hit out of bounds. Because it comes it's cooking and he's so entertaining and he's laughing a lot he just seems like he's like dude. I want to grab a beer with his well. He so easy to root for he's the guy that like I would. I would pay the hang out. You know to go. Watch him pay to Hang out with them definitely He reminds me of like if you remember the old school pitching machines where that like metal comes up. Yeah He. He's named out on the bottom left corner of the tables just setting up his right hand and if you hit it because a lot of times. Their strategy wanted to the other guys backhand in low so the guy can't win winner very few guys can rip winter from that Angle. And so he kinda angled over there makes you try to rip a winner down the line giving you the entire table and if you do you met him out and you might get to it. But you're right. He's got that big wind up like the pitching machines and it is. I can't bet any of his matches because he's on can't beat them enemies off. It's yeah it's just it's it's a roll. The dice essentially is when he when he comes out fire. And it's it's literally Sir Return. Hit hit and here comes added. But you're right I would pay the watch him He's he's my favorite and he's just seems like a like a fun guy. Everyone's laugh like the score back but he's good. He's not like joke. He's not like the other jobs but everyone sort of he's entertaining to everyone. I would say yes and if you to this you hear us. I mean we were having a good time talking about this with laughing and I think that is more important than anything right. You Watch this. You can laugh. It's sports and I think we re you really need that right now. With how depressing. Everything is around right right anything. You better little money and you're GONNA have a laugh. You have it you know you're on twitter talk about there's plenty of people talking about it and You know just for entertainment factor into get yet for a little bit This will one hundred percent do the trick for you and you can make money doing it too so I I think. All of those things are are A big reason why this is taken off the way it has. Yeah I mean. I talked to nick. Bogdanovich William Hill and I did a story on sort of what people are betting on his. Ira thing and some other stuff. And he's like he's like he called Papon's the started the show he goes. It's a mania. Some guy hit like Tintin par life for lightning five blocks in twenty grand or something but it's And he said I guess last weekend. I GUESS. They're only a couple. Ufc fights at more handle thin like ping pong now. Not Thing Max. It's the volume to your point earlier. Like there's basically four matches every half hour so and there's only like five hours. It's dark all night and then there's playoffs there's the scheduled and then even there's like an hour hour and a half window twice a day that they leave open and it's based on like the playoffs face on the result that happened earlier today so obviously can't put him up because you'll know how the Games are but once the results are determined and then they'll put some playoffs out than it's fun in you're right I. It's such a good point in terms of the entertainment component to this because I do enjoy it in first of all I just. It's a new sport and something that's so foreign so I'm like very impressed by the quality of play like we talked about some of these top level guys their hand eye coordination. It's incredible you'll see some awesome efforts guys getting the balls and it's cool and it's quakes ten fifteen minutes whatever and then then there's some characters Nashville and there's some other guys like I even like hero link. Oh even though he's not as crazy as Nebraska but he he like makes fun of himself and he's in that bottom that group but he he he goes for it and he goes for winners and he like. I don't know some of the stuff I've really enjoyed watching. I agree There's and there's outfits out there So basically just. I've unless you have to wear dark colored or red color and so the scoreboard is shown by red or blue. So you so the viewer Kylie. Boxing when they say like the blue trunks so and so's in the white trunks or whatever. So you have that sort of Explanation and it's it's you know it's Hilarious Like wears it every day. We must have a bunch of off peak shirts. That's like his version of read that he wears everyday because they're dripping with sweat. Your point and I mean the exercise. I mean. It's incredible some guys you know not. Art Isn't good a shape as the others. But I really encourage people at least check it out and just sort of like observe in kind of entertained by And just impressed like you watch. I'll flip Brown and white heck games. You know like how they do this on a skateboard or whatever. It is on the scheme or anything. That's foreign to me like this. Because we all play Ping Pong at some point in our lives we played it like basic. We're not holding the racket the right way and whatever it may be I thoroughly enjoyed it and it's ends it's scratches and it occasionally as well as the absolutely and If the like you said it's a lot of fun I wish and I don't know why it hasn't happened yet. I wish someone would come up with a website with the standings and rotations to look at. I think I really wish I had that to just sort of clarify things. 'cause I'M NOT GONNA lie. The first week I watched it I thought it was like two teams blue team and the red team playing and then I realized okay. They're switching off depends but You know it's fun and I remember back in the Olympics when those bitten the Olympics handball is another great thing and I know you get the views on that Handball is. I think fantastic. Those guys are beast six seven. Just whip the ball ninety five miles. An hour at a goal with no pads on is a lot of fun and I think This gives us a time to sort of open. Our eyes up to you know not just the four major sports but there's a lot of stuff going on out there and it's like will like entertain rightly like you said we all. We all grew up watching sports for entertainment before restarted betting on it and you can get that entertainment factor In a lot of laughs and a lot of other places do one final question for you. How many guys do you think he could get at least two points off of this? Oh Man oh man. 'cause they're that element you watch and you're like. Oh good. Is this guy. I could get a pointer to do it probably I could probably get. Oh Man Volcano. What's his name? I know pay pander hander I yeah pander I definitely think I can get a point or two. I know I probably wouldn't even have to make contact and I could get a couple of points. 'cause he's GonNa he's GonNa give me four or five unforced errors. What without a doubt. A Real player. He's probably going to do that right. Like if you didn't realize how easy it could take it now because he's trying to hit a spin serve. I mean a lot of times. He's trying to spin serving like we'll botch it. I think pander von no no chance like good lost like twenty five in a row. But there's like he gets to everything he's good like because sometimes these guys play that you know. I'm just telling our listeners. Like you know eight feet behind the baseline and they're with it back and forth environments one of those guys. The other guys can't like the worst league like. I think I could probably get a point off the Bat Celeski. I didn't Pander Vassilev lefty and Babkin are the three. I think I could get points up adkins terrible atkins terrible and especially if you catch them at the end of the night. You could probably talk them you he. He's the one that like if you're willing to talk trash and take a couple of the face that you could probably get the five six against him and get him really upset and And and hope to get to five six but To think that if anybody thinks they can just go show up and beat these guys. It's just not happening in the pro league. Now it's not like you said it's like it's like the or something like that. Yeah totally These guys are awesome. We're talking about the worst of the worst. Maybe I get a pointer to cause but again. We don't know how fast it's coming. It could be just You know total spin in the word is not seeing. I think we have a good idea of stuff but They're like you don't notice it. 'cause the guy's get through it but if they were sitting there and hitting it and you see where it balances and then where it lands off the table. You know it's taken almost a ninety degree angle sometimes and You know if I'm the I'm I'm GonNa Miss Probably what seventy percent of those Serbs when they really on with this right like even making contact you know. That's a great idea. Yeah it's funny. Everyone gravitated to this week. Though isn't it I mean you. There's betting options for everything but I think The entertainment factor. Like you said it instead of like watching if anybody seen the Chinese where it's just back and forth and you know anybody can win this one is. I think it's entertaining and that's why I think it's caught on. Yeah there's a lot of us three point rallies if you will And you're you're so right about the spin Especially like the slow shot watch where it lands the trajectory coming into the table and then where it goes after hits the table. That's been incredibly impressive. Incredibly impressive agree so I will. Hopefully we wet. The appetite of a lot of our listeners. Really really appreciate your taking the time. Sharing the wisdom that you've gleaned from hours and hours of writing this stuff will What's your set up like? You just watch on one laptop but he got it. Depends I if I'm really into it. I got my. I got my TV on it right. And then I'll try. Yeah I'll have the laptop going and then the IPAD in sometimes. If I get crazy I have like a crazy fourteen power away. I got the TV on to and I've noticed that anything more than three. Just don't do it you can't you can't see anything going so fast everywhere you don't know where to look and then you don't even know what the score is but Two or three at a time. I like I like that. I feel comfortable with that and Just kicked back. Sometimes you know I moved down to the man cave and then I might take a trip in the up to the couch in the living room and then by the end of the night. Maybe I'm you know watching in the bedroom. 'cause you know a lot of travel these days so you're gonNA move around. You know you could really get you. You gotta be careful because if you get involved in this and think you're GonNa do it professional I don't know if there's an off season but I mean you talking twenty hour days seven days a week and it's just it's you'd be that is. I would agree. Yeah and it can get you can get chasing like anything. So you've gotta be careful in those but yeah I have a similar man. Cave set up. I like the two laptops because I think it's easier but I will go down to my man cave with the smart TV and set it up with the Internet and it's a lot of fun in that regard. I'm a man thanks again is always appreciate it. Welcome to the PODCAST. Good to have you on and good luck with all the table. Tennis to have a good one kicking is for losers all right thanks to John. Harness reminder our coverage of the last dance is brought to you by state farm when you want the real deal like a good neighbor. State farm is their coverage is also brought to you by a t and T so yeah. We're covering the goat Michael Jordan. That wraps up this weekend with two more hours that was like a hard turn. Christina from Ping Pong do the greatest NBA player all time arguably just a little bit of a restaurant. What did you are are you in? Are you wanted to go watch now? I am now completely sold on. It never thought I would be but now I am. It's a lot of fun. I highly recommend it on my other one of my laptops here. I'm just watching him. And these guys are this in this case fifteen feet behind the table getting the every ball because I mean it's kind of like a with about right. It doesn't like travel as fast as a racket ball or tennis ball so when they when a guy comes up swinging in Wales on it the guy returning can basically get to it right and so you see these like incredible extension of rallies because guys are lunging getting it so it's a Lotta. It's a cool sport. I'm into it as you can tell from what you just heard so. I hope others can go check it out. Just at least enjoy it not necessarily get action on it but Are you ready for the last dance to wrap up this weekend I am? I've been watching them as they release every week and I'm excited to see I'll wrap up because it says we talked about last week on the this is foreign territory. This is new a new. You weren't born really until the Jordan era. Oh exactly yeah. I didn't get to see this unfold as it actually happened so for me. This has all been new information so I'm really excited. I remember in college. I went to was episode one of Star Wars because it was like the fourth one that came out and I just had watched star wars growing up as a kid. But I know everything in my buddy. My Buddy was like man. I would love to just to get to experience all of us for the first time you and that's of how I feel like learning all about Jordan and pippen must be fascinating and as a different approach in all of us who kinda grew up on ener. Despicable bits and pieces nostalgia for us. Right I try talking to you. Know my dad or some of my uncles. Who grew up watching this happen so I tell them my God. Did you see that? And they're like Yeah Christina weaker off with that so it's all new information for me. Yeah it's crazy Jordan. Left to go play baseball. I mean I was in high school. I didn't really fully get it but now we've talked like magic a Lebron leaving for a couple of years ago play This is If it actually happened crazy day and age of twitter especially well that's all. I got some really good catching up. Gurjin go check out some table tennis at all levels. Not just the ones we talked about but hopefully are scouting reports major chuckle a little bit. But hopefully we'll have more reports on Sports returning maybe the lightly end of the tunnel. Just around the corner we hope.

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The Evening Briefing: Wednesday, September 30

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02:14 min | 4 months ago

The Evening Briefing: Wednesday, September 30

"Hello I'm Chris Price with the briefing from the Telegraph. It's Wednesday September thirtieth embrace Johnson. Will Not hesitate to take tougher cove admissions Boris Johnson called for collective forbearance from the nation as he held the one hundredth staring straight press conference since the pandemic began body wants tougher measures could be introduced. If the evidence shows, it's needed the prime minister said, the British people don't want to throw in the sponge and he said he profoundly disagrees with those who think corona voice should be allowed to just take its course. He spoke as nervous seventy one, covid nineteen deaths have been recorded taking the UK total to forty, two, thousand, one, hundred, and forty-three another seven, thousand one, hundred eight people have tested positive in the last twenty, four hours. That's the second straight day that's been over seven thousand alive block has the latest. It comes as the Corona Var Sankt sailed through the Commons I allowing the government to retain its emergency powers but that was after ministers reached an eleventh-hour deal with Tory rebels. The price of bare backing was frame piece to have a vote on any second national lockdown and it came after speakers Lindsay Hoyle gave a shop rebuke for the way the government's used its emergency powers so far at politics live blog has more. Many of you will have put holiday plans to the back of your mind. Is Cases Rise in the UK quarantine this continues to grow, but the boss of Heathrow says airport testing could be in place within weeks John Hollins. Cases flights to New York could be up and running by the end of November my colleagues in travel have the details. And after his press conference today, Boris Johnson won't be pleased at the video that's emerged of a party at university up to two hundred students crammed into a common room for an illegal rave. They could be seen singing and dancing and clamber on top of Ping Pong tables universities slammed the incident you can watch the video. Along with that, you can read the messages sent by the outfits worn by Jill Biden and Melania. Trump has their husbands went at each other in the first presidential TV debate and your guide to coffee. Kit The new rules for public displays of illness that it's you're up-to-date Danny will have your next briefing.

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Ep 138: A Justin Bieber Interview Analysis

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57:14 min | 1 year ago

Ep 138: A Justin Bieber Interview Analysis

"Before we start we are so excited to tell you guys that the soup is back on E. Wednesdays at ten nine Central Avenue Hosts Woman Jade Caterpillar. And she is great like the thing about her is that she herself is. Superfan so everything she's talking about. She's so excited and she's kind of giving her observation. Quit and you know the soup. It's everything from the latest. Tv moments both viral videos. Everything in between. She's a lot of really hilarious. Commentary is just a good time. She's a lot of fun to watch so back on Wednesdays at ten nine central. Hey guys I'm Emma and I'm Julie and we're the calls behind comments by CELEBS and welcome back to this week's bonus episode. How you I mean. Obviously I'm doing good. We're talking about Uber. Yes so this week. We kind of decided we wanted to do something. A little bit topical and as you know Justin's album changes came out on February fourteenth. And he did this. Really indepth interview with Zane Lowe that we washed. And we're like we have to discuss this more Ryan needed a fault while we were gonNA put into the section. I was like I need a fall for it. But that's these are my favorite bonus episodes when it just happened so naturally we wash something and we're like no we need a full forty five minutes greatest because that's exactly what you wanted without rising. This is what we are going to do like disgusting. I just want to talk about saying we watched. And you're like okay. I've watched everything. So why don't you figure out something to watch? I don't really think we can do a bonus episode on with cats. I was like God down. I know actually think we cut how we totally could have. Maybe yeah I think we could have. We won't pay who good idea anyway. So basically how we're going to do this or how. We think we're going to do this. That could always change. Is We basically? Julie transcribed a lot of the episode. I mean a lot of the interview and we're going to go through winter of pretty much all that we're going to kind of go through you know. Read some of the points do a discussion but for the most part we're going to go through kind of as it happened so yet input into our own orders. What I'm saying. No it's it's completely chronological of the interview. So the guy who did the interview? He's this man Zane Lowe he's New Zealand radio DJ and he hosts his own show on. Apple's International Radio Station Beats One. I was kind of you know I. I had never heard of him. And it's a big deal for Justin to do an interview like this but I was almost happy that I had no previous experience with this guy because it was totally. He was like a clean slate for me. Yeah I've watched a few things that he's done he's he's really good at deep interviews. Which is why. I think Justin chose to do this. Also Justin felts. Which if you haven't watched it. I highly recommend but also. If you don't have the time you can just listen to this. You know you can tell that. Just felt really comfortable being their first of all he was literally Jerseys and vans and heels odor. He looks good but he also just like. I think he felt safe. The word that I'm looking for a safe. Yes he didn't feel like this guy was looking for the click bait headlines. He felt like this was a conversation right. He felt like I think Justin went into this. And they talk about this a lot about like how it's not really an interview. It's more of a conversation and I think Justin went into it knowing that he was going to be able to get out what he wanted to get out of it. Exactly so we're going to go through and we'll see what happens you're ready. I'm ready so he starts by talking about his new album and he says quote. I feel like I'm gonNA cool vein but this album is super. It's just not very deep. You know I didn't go there like that. You know what I mean. I didn't go super deep with later on in the interview. They're talking about this which we'll get into but basically you know. He says that he wants to make more music about being married. And this album is just the first he wrote in his first year of marriage. And there's so much more to learn about commitment and building trust and Zane says something which I think is really true. He says that's what's great about changes. Its honeyman record. It would be sort of disingenuous to start diving deeper into that situation when you're just learning about the beginning stages right and that's a really good point which. I feel like when people when I've spoken to people at the album. What they've said is like it sounds great but the lyrics aren't anything. It's like what he wanted. This album to be was like a fun. R&b Album the lyrics needs to be anything more than just what they were. Basically in five years time he's not going to be reading Yummy Yummy was when the guy said honeymoon record. I was like you. My friend should coin that? Yeah he he nailed it yelled at. That's exactly the term so he starts off asking him why he stopped his torn two thousand seventeen. Because as you remember that was a whole thing I mean he was miserable for lack of a better word and you can see it. It's so funny. When you look at footage of the tour you can see it in his face he literally. He looks like he would wanna be anywhere else. But on that stage but also in watching this interview and Julia made this observation which I think is really true. His facial reactions are very Kind of complimentary to what he's talking about so you see. It was almost as if he was reliving. Everything they were talking about it and you saw it on his face so when he's reliving this would you could see kind of like the darkness and him. Yeah it's also it's just US face. This whole body changes with every single question like there are times where he's really tense and he's like bent over talking about it and then there's other times where. Zane ask them something that he's like really excited to speak about. And you kind of like loosens up like when he speaks about. Haley he takes a step back and he can sit and be loose and then when he's talking about what he went through during two thousand fifteen to two thousand seventeen he's world over again. I have to be honest and you know I really really liked Justin. I like really fully support him. The first couple of minutes watching this I was a little bit. Annoyed is the wrong word but I was a little bit like. Come on if you agree to do this interview. At least uncomfortable he was on. He was visibly uncomfortable. And I guess I was looking at it because of what we do from the perspective of the interviewer and I was like you could at least give this guy. I contact like he's sitting. You know what I mean and I felt at first. I was afraid that was going to the entire thing. It definitely changed so if you get through the first couple of minutes you'll see his demeanor change but the beginning. It was almost like he felt. This is how it felt as a viewer. I felt like he was forced to be there. And that clearly wasn't the case but in the beginning I was like dude fun. What it kind of also came off as and which is probably what happened is that I felt like until he got comfortable with it. You could see that. He was thinking about every single word that he was saying like. I think he is so scared to come off. Either unintelligent or come off and say single grade for saying that he doesn't mean that could be misconstrued so it's like every single word that came out of his mouth felt like he was thinking thoroughly about and it made him very tense. I so agree with you. So anyway in terms of the tour why he stopped he said you know. He was emotionally and physically tired and on top of that he was sick. He didn't know what at the time. Which of course was the Epstein Barr in the lime disease and he said he's like listen. I was eating really well. I was doing everything that I needed to just having seven twice a day like as if that was the he says if people say Broccoli you know what I mean is that was the pinnacle of Hell as if seven was penicillin. Yes exactly say no drinking one hundred ounces of water. Who's like I was having Salmon twice today? He was like the mom in a Cinderella story on Diet. I'm doing fine. How To so my dad when he says three sandwiches today but they were not widespread. Yeah exactly so anyway. Zane starts and he said it's clear anyone who hears this album and also to anyone who takes an interest in your life as a fan that the two of you meaning haven't Halley have found a really important bond and this has been hugely important development in your life which by the way I saw this in the beginning. But there's going to be reading we just but then we'll discuss and Justin said it's been a really big reason. Why coming back and why. I'm successful at this. She's definitely the reason there'd be no story without her she just ties it all together. I mean she's giving substance to talk about. She's the person that I'm learning to love. Unconditionally start a family with so regardless. If I saw another record I have a lot of peace just knowing that I have the rest of my life to build a relationship with a solid foundation of trust and patients and all the things that go into building a healthy relationship. Listen he's not telling US something that we don't know I know but I say I love to hear him say but I'm saying like I was nodding when you know and felt like his marriage. Counselor good yes yeah. That's what I want you to say. Yeah that's right Justin. So Zane says that when he listened to you like when I listened to what's been said from either view you it sounds like both of you to some degree. Knew it was right but he both had to go into it in your own way to confirm qualify that that was the case. How did you know I'm reading this? I'm reading this whole one verbatim. He goes I let her know prior prior to the two thousand seventeen when we were hanging out a lot. I said I'm still really hurt and still trying to figure out my way and I'm not ready to make a commitment to you in a way that you know and I just don't want to say something and do the opposite. I was at the point where I'd done that in the past. Just honest with her. I was like you know. I'm not just in a place to be. I'm not in a place to be faithful and all the stuff that I wanted to be but I just wasn't there yet. This is something that came up a lot and I know we'll get more into it. Which by the way Julian. I have not spoken about this. No not at all like I watched the interview this morning purposely so that we would not have spoken about it before but viewed watched it last night. There's no way that we would have not spoken. Yeah exactly as I was dying to speak to tell you that I watched it. My Dad drove me into the city. Today you think well I put it on the things he was just hearing the obviously was watching the road but after he's like wow. I didn't know that as bad as parents. I didn't know he was so religious. Like he was really got a lot out of it. I love that. I love that for your news very very educational experience. Yeah that's great. That's good things that he needed the hymie needed and I felt like just the needed. Your Dad's validation. Wait this is a really good time to make the announcement that I've wanted to say on air for a long time. I have no idea what you're about to say Ping Pong table. Oh my God yeah. I don't think I've ever said this publicly. Oh yes I go to your dad's drawn out like maybe could happen in some alternate universe. No I'm saying we at the time. Nothing that we ever said could have ever gone to Justin Bieber now. It's not the craziest thing that Jordin sparks. Knowing that we love no air. That was the coolest thing ever hold on. We're going to go on a two-minute tangent here but it's necessary. Tell them what happened. So we are on paper magazines podcast and we were talking about Jordin sparks and I honestly don't even know how she came up but what we were saying. Oh my God I hope she's good and we're like you know nowhere slap that I was like it's still slaps like to understand my relationship with no air. Is that like Mehan Isabelle. Something that in the car probably like a hundred anytime. Earn CAR THAT. I've done that with all of my other friends to be the best car song here and it's just been this constant thing about loving no Aaron thing. He was literally the greatest song ever. So we're talking about on the podcast and paper magazine Instagram's that clip from the interview of US talking about it and Jordin sparks comment on the picture. And she's like I'm doing great. Thank you so much for like saying this about no air. I was what inspires all I do is talk about you. How are you going to know that my number one car song you know that? I now saying that's what I'm saying to you. Though driving home back and forth from Syracuse singing. You know air in your thought. Jordin sparks would have ever known that aspect. So that's how I feel not that this is getting to justed that like hypothetically could so as you all know by now my dad is a big ping pong player. It's his biggest joy in life. He's the simplest guy in the world and Ping Pong is all. He wants so much. The point that Jelena's well got him personalized calms by celebs Steve Diamond Ping Pong paddles. And balls as a thank you to taking them just palm springs like it's that was about anyway when I was in college out of no architects for my dad. One day and he's like energy to do me a favor. I'm like what's up sick and need you to write me a letter to Justin Bieber. I was like you know I remember. This is like we weren't even close at the time. 'cause I instagram. I think I like instagram. That are snapchat because like what the daddy about what he's like. I was just reading an article. He requires a ping pong table backstage. Every one of his tours like it's in his rider needs it. I want to be Justin Bieber's Personal Ping Pong player. He's like I don't need to be paid. I just WANNA come on tour with him. He's I'll pay for my own accommodations. I just WANNA come on tour with him and just play ping pong anytime he wants and I kind of like thought he was like okay. I'm not kidding you my dad every single week for probably six months. Text me like so that letter to Justin that letter to Justin and just as we can we were talking about it and I was like you know something daddy when he goes on tour. I can't tell you it's going to happen but I'm GONNA try. That would be the best thing ever first of all Justin in the rare event that you happen to be listening. My Dad is the Chili Guy in the world. You'd have the best time he'll play with you whenever he's very good. He's concerned that you're not gonNA have anyone there. That's up to your level rate. He he wants nothing from you. He literally just wants to play Ping Pong asking to be justed. Beat him he will. I said you can't let him win. Like he doesn't want people are always letting him win. They're always yelling him. You need to play your hardest. Yeah and I think that Justin respect that for sure and then they could like like the best thing ever yeah. I don't even need to go. Get The enough validation from your dad. I'm taking it back. I tried to be nice itself less than I just couldn't do it so anyway or even just at your one concert in New York whatever it is. My Dad would love to do that. So we take us into the universe into the numbers he. Oh my God that would be so good right. I'm manifesting from this moment anyway. So you know what I was saying before when when Justin was talking about how. He told Haley ahead of time that he couldn't knew he really couldn't be faithful and didn't want to say something and do the opposite. I felt like a trend throughout the interview. Which will touch on Moore? Who was he has this real and potentially it's because of him getting in touch with his faith and how important Being faithful is but that came up so much like he so badly does not want to cheat. Yeah and clearly actively works on it. Not I don't mean that in like a it's only on his mind way but like it's definitely conscious so there is a really important part of the interview where he's talking about like doing good for the sake of doing good versus doing good because it like he doesn't. WanNa hurt somebody else. Or because it's the right thing to do whatever and he makes. The comparison of there is a difference between not cheating because it's wrong to cheat and not cheating because you don't want to hurt the person you're with and he's like you see that's a really important distinction and I feel like that is something that he learned and he really liked took that to heart. Hinchey fully internalized that. Because you know something. It's a lot. It's a lot harder to follow through with something when you're doing it just because you think it's the right thing versus when it impacts you but I also think that you know being as young as he wasn't being yes from the time that he was thirteen those or your formative years of learning the difference between right and wrong and I feel like he never had real grasp on what the difference between doing something for the sake of not doing something wrong or because you've been told your whole life that it's wrong to do and not doing it because you genuinely feel inside that you don't want to do it because you would never want to harm others and you're not the center of the universe and things happen to other people. Besides you and I feel like he's learning that you know about ten years later that everyone else learns it and it really shows in this interview. Yeah it was. Kinda like he was bringing this guy this interviewer through his own. Like therapy sessions kind. 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It's like a million other things but he did talk about her so I want to just get into that so the end of your says what was hurting you at that time and Justin says I think I was just hurt from my previous relationship. I think I was still dealing with a lot of unforgiveness and all that sorta stuff to be honest. I don't think I even knew what I was really struggling with at the time. I don't think I knew I was dealing with. I don't think I knew I was dealing with forgiveness. I was just in a place where I knew. I didn't want to tell her one thing and I felt like she respected me the time and I had a lot of respect for her and I just didn't want to say something and then she'd me off doing some other thing and so either way she loved me and see me with other people hurt and so with that being said she went out and did things that hurt me and so it was just as our and so it was just as hurt. I heard her. She hurt me and then before we really just stop talking at this time. She's talking he's talking about. I was really upset and rather than you know before that and my previous relationship I went off and I just went crazy and went wild and was just being reckless. This time I took the time to really build myself and focus on me and try to make the right decisions and so I got better and she would reach out to people that we knew and check in and she'd be like she she. He's talking off camera now or talking to Haley off camera now and he's like rate here like oh he's doing so well and she'd be so pissed off because she's like he's doing what without me like just normal right and Haley off camera says as much as you WanNa think you're happy for someone. It sucks to hear that they're happy without you suggestions like so sheet here this straight. You hear this and you'd be like what he's doing. Well how is so interesting? Actually literally could talk about that today. I know well because also aside from anything else. That's like the most realistic part of a relationship that ended is like talking to your mutual friends. About how the other person's doing being upset that they're doing fine even though you know they're probably not doing fine and also you want them on a human level because you care about them you want them to be doing fine. You don't want them to be hurting. But the selfish part of you was like wait a second year. Okay without me right. It's like you feel so unneeded we'll also. I think a huge takeaway from this was. I think that we always imagine their relationship. Prior to this as like a casual hook up like there was just nothing to it and I think there's a lot more to what they went through previously than we thought. Yeah I so agree I mean I don't WanNa give away and we'll get into. He's talked about it but he talks about like the first time he knew. Halley was we're going to do. I have to say but I felt I don't know we as we always say if they something terrible happens and they get divorced and let all of the let everybody else be right and it's fine we can easily. We will take full confidence in saying that we were wrong and we thought that this was madly in love Yeah they're not getting divorced but you know what I mean like. I'll take that fall. Yeah fine I don't care I love. This is kind of how we feel about Cardi offset. We'll we'll say there's so many so many way cardi an offset just got put on this earth happen to have exactly their personalities and they weren't meant to fight. Yeah that's how we feel about hilly and just if all hell hell we stand firm that we still thought it. That's how yeah exactly. So this is when he really talks about how you know at this time during torn right before tour. He really got into in touch with his faith and in total honesty. Like neither of us are really very religious. People like we feel rooted in Judaism. But it's not something that we're thinking about daily and he really he you know Gives credits this. As what kind of changed him off his faith and he he makes a really important distinction later on in like. I'm not by any means trying to push this down anyone's throat because I think that's a common misconception. He's like I'm just saying that this helped me if anybody else is in the same boat. Maybe can help you kind of thing right. He talks about it more. You know being religious more of a recovery program than anything else he. He knows that it helped him. Personally pull him out of really dark time. And I think that it's a really important distinction of the way you view religion when it affects you personally versus how you want it to affect other people exactly so and. Zane asks him. He's like listen. You know if you never got in touch with Jesus which really ultimately led to your reconciliation with Haley like. Do you think the person you were then was on a path of self described destruction and he kind of phrased that very carefully. He was choosing his words carefully and Justin Flat. Out was like yeah. I think it's very possible that I wouldn't have been alive. Yeah you said it was really really dark which we learned in the changes Low Yeah because we didn't realize how dark it was. Yeah they did a really. I mean the seasons in seasons. I I don't WanNa say they did a good job of hiding it but they did a professional job of hiding like we knew he was going through stuff obviously been told by his behavior. But I don't think we realized how dark it was and that was the reason that he was going through stuff because I think that we as onlookers have a real tendency to assume that when young celebrities exhibit erotic behavior that it's just part of who they are and they're just like ungrateful little celebrities. Who are running around doing whatever they want. Rather than being like okay. There's something really wrong here. Yeah exactly and also you know when you don't know what's out there and you don't know what the Pasig I my. I wouldn't have been like. Yeah he was waking up and doing lean everyday right. You know what I mean like. My my knowledge of drugs from a personal level is so kind of minimal in the sense of like Lena something that I have never considered. It's ever my deal. I don't know it. Just it's on my I thought. Yeah so he then talks about Growing up in front of the world and Zina saying that the idea of music a lot of times comes from this desire to escape something but then you get out in front of the world and it becomes almost from a place of wanting attention wanting energy wanting fame and we talk with a lot with like your your brain get so accustomed to being onstage in that constant cheering. That when you're you're looking for the next hi. And he says Justin quote. I mean just think about how young. I wasn't so impressionable. And you have everybody telling me how good how awesome. I was at all times. And they said it's taking a kid and putting a kid never full of nothing but sweets and just saying I'll be back in two days stressing those you know I'll see comes and stuff and you know me talking about my issues and my problems and stuff. And they're like Oh man crime river in your Rolls Royce. You know I want people to kind of understand the psychology behind why potentially could have problems in my life. So yeah thank you for being here in new. Tell that story. This was a moment where he thinks he won. The interviewed shifted because he like broke the like. I know this is not the term here. Don't worry we won't get into our argument always I. I don't mean breaking the fourth walks. It was broken to start with but like he talked about the interview within the interview like he was like yeah. This is really cool that I'm getting to explore. Explain this in the way that I am. Well I think he felt really validated by Zane. Saying it because I think that something that's happened to Justin is that he knows his feelings are real and he knows that you know through therapy. That what he felt was real and you know through what Hayley has comforted him what he knows that his feelings and his psychology behind what he felt was real to him but I think to have somebody else who you know is familiar with the industry and familiar with music familiar with other artists to say to him. Like what you feel is real. It's also a lot of other people go through and it's not invalid for you to not feel that way just because you have money or just because you have a career which that's what you and. I talked about all the time with this kind of stuff. It's like there's a really big yes. Money at the very least is a form of comfort and to be able to have it as such a gift. Because you're afforded these luxuries and all of these. You know comforts of life that other people don't happen. I sure there's nothing wrong with being grateful and acknowledging that but having money does not make it like you're immune to having problems and I think that there's often this misconception with celebrity that like what are you possibly have to complain about. You could be the richest person in the entire world. You still go through the same pain of all of these other things that people go through like you still experience death just as intensely as Others. Do you know like it. Doesn't I think some people expected it some coating over your entire life and it just doesn't work like that. I also think Justin is a really interesting case. Study in this because it's not like he's somebody who kind of grinded his whole life and knew what he was getting into and wanted this so badly and it was like he was working for it for years and years and finally got it like he was thirteen years old. When your thirteen and you're posting videos on Youtube and you get discovered one day in your in a meeting with usher the next and you're on a world tour week later like you don't know one sitting there and giving you the tools to say like okay in eight years. Am I going to be happy with this decision? What is this GonNa do to me mentally? You don't you're you don't have the capability the capacity to think that decision through so a lot of artists can say like. I didn't really ask for this. But just and genuinely didn't ask for this just happened and I think he woke up one day and was like this is my life and I'm supposed to be grateful for that and I know and I am grateful but there's also this whole other side of it that I didn't want and now I'm stuck with. Yeah it sounds like the but also these things exist and I don't think I think we're slowly getting away from that culture of making celebrities feel guilty for having or wanting to hide the fact that they have any problems because they have to only put out gratitude. It's like you can be grateful and also be hurting right. It's like a very common. The two can act absolutely coexist. Okay best part of the interest of fucking interview. Suzanne says and by the way. I'm sure you've picked up by now. Haley sitting right there so you see him talk in her off camera and you can tell that she's in the room so Zane says. When did you realize it was time for you to reconnect with Halley? I felt there was a lot of resolution in my life. I'd seen her at an event. I saw a senior with the baby and something just clicked and I was like wow. She's the one I kind of cluttered on my pass and I was able to see really clearly and I just seen her across the room she was holding a baby and I had just seen the nurturing look in her eyes towards this baby and I was like I want the mother of my children to look at a baby the way she was and just the way she was carrying it and I just had seen something so special and I was like I walk that and I knew she could offer that to me. Fuck me up by the way a credit that part can tell you why though. I'm always with the baby like so what I just like the one time. That was only baby. It wasn't with Justin. I was in that room holding a baby with Daffy me when I be fucking off camera guy. Say something what we talk about. All the time with Haley is her maternal tendencies. Well there's a lot of projection there that he that wasn't about him wanting a mother of his child that's about him wanting someone to be maternal towards him but do we not always talk about the way that she is with kids like. It's not like any girl holding a baby that is a really mature even if it was a projection and even if it was him doing it for his own sake subconsciously without even realizing it for twenty three twenty four year old man or boy honestly to recognize that that is equality in somebody that he wants. A wife is a really mature standpoint. It is especially for Justin who's maturity I think is sometimes very mixed and sometimes he does act a little bit more mature and sometimes you act a lot less mature than you would expect him to for him to look at Haley. No one moment. Because she's holding a baby and he can see a nurturing looking her. That is a huge huge thing for him. Yeah and no. I totally agree with you. And I think that you're I mean you're obviously totally right about the projection thing. But it's both like which will get into a little bit later. His upbringing and how at times he really didn't feel like his parental figures were nurturing. The way he wants to be towards his kids totally that was there so I think he's longing for it himself but also you know he wants to have kids. He wants to have kids young. It's something he's spoken about constantly so I think that those are qualities he's going to look for in a partner. Yeah totally was good one. So they're talking about the proposal. Zane asks him if he was nervous before he popped the question. He said that you know he goes. I was in. My parents. Were never married so I never really got to see what that looked like. And he said he was unsure if he could do it and he felt like it was God saying that he's GonNa show him how he can do. It and I didn't realize that his parents were never married. They were just divorced early on. They were together Like in the beginning when they first had them and then they broke up when he was very I think when he was like one. Maybe I remember that I. Let's just this wasn't in the interview but we did a little bit of additional research because I felt like it was important to bring some context here. So you know. He talks a little bit about his relationship with his parents. And saying that you know his dad's married he's doing a great job and Zane asks if he feels like he can sit down with his parents and have a conversation where he's really open with them and Justin says that he's in the process of getting there but right now all he wants for them is to play the role in his life. His Mom and Dad. Let's go. I feel like it's important to just give a little background on his parents so his parents they had him. His Dad was nineteen and his mom was eighteen and his mom wrote a book where she kind of outlines a lot of these struggles that she had in her life and she says that her childhood was dominated by sexual abuse and violence and she was. I molested around each three and from everyone who was a male babysitter the grandfather of one of her friends and some of the neighborhood kids and she talks about this abuse happening from the time she was three until she was fourteen followed by incident of date rape at age. Fifteen she says quote. I was sexually violated so many times that as the years went by began to feel normal. It's a strange marriage. Knowing something is wrong at the same time. Finding it familiar commonplace. Took a really powerful statement. Yeah like we're going through all this because Justin alluded to it but he didn't say specifics about like the struggles at his parents have had in their lives. And why potentially they why they're parenting. I guess suffered as a result of some of the unresolved trauma. I guess is part of the reason right and she talks in her book about beginning to use drugs at fourteen alcohol. We'd LSD talking about shoplifting. She vandalized school property by starting a fire in a bathroom and suspended from school and when she was fifteen years old that's when she started a relationship with his dad. Jeremy and it lasted for four years. She I mean she left home when she was sixteen at Seventeen. She attempted suicide by throwing herself in front of the truck which led to she had to do a stint in a mental facility. And that was the time where she really became in touch with her. Faith Right that's when she credits like becoming a Christian right. She really like. Yeah so after her release from this Mental Hospital. She rekindled friendships. That kind of weren't didn't help her in becoming faithful and this when she reconnected with Jeremy so six months later she became pregnant and she gave birth adjusted in March First Nineteen Ninety four in Ontario one month. Four hundred nineteen th birthday so they were you know hip. His Mom and dad were friendly but they were not dating after this. They were never together throughout his life right. Yeah it's interesting because we were talking about the relationship that he has with mom and the way he talks about her now versus the way he talked about her in previous interviews. And if you remember from like the never say never days and a little bit earlier. Justin wanting to interview without. Bring up his mom. He wrote a song about her. He talked about you. Know How she was this amazing single mom and of course. That's still true. This amazing single mom who was such a power in his life in such a force in his life and really helped him navigate and really credit so much of his childhood to her and so much of the person that he is to her and her strain but when he talks about her. Now it's very interesting. He doesn't say a whole lot and he doesn't allude to positive things not that he's saying negative things about her but he talks about a lot of dysfunction a lot of Not Feeling maybe secure in his home and what we were saying we were talking about this earlier was that it sounds like you know from all this healing. That he's done from what he went through. That a lot of stuff about his childhood probably came out in therapy and it feels like he's dealing with that now and sounds like there's this air of resentment there or something along those lines and just feels different. The way he talks about her yeah. I don't even know if it's resentment as much as it is clarity like I think for so long. That's his normal right. Like he didn't know any different and then when he took a step back and started to actually analyze what went on and maybe a therapist could put it into words. Like No. That isn't that isn't actually like normal. And these are things that could have been done differently and protect. Potentially things like this. He started to realize that but also recognizing with alcohol. You can only do as good of a job as you can do like. There's no doubt that his parents were trying to be the best parents that they physically could but the reality of it was that his mama to really hard life Yes so she edition. Now is raising a kid on our own. It's not easy. And I think he recognizes that and I feel like a lot of what he went through. He attributes to not having structure when he was growing up like he talks about. You know the that stage where he was you know really abusing drugs and a lot of erotic behavior and he says you know I didn't grow up with structure the way normal kids. I didn't grow up with household away. A lot of other kids did and it really affects me later and I feel like there's a lot of blame on his childhood now for what happened. Yeah which I think we're going to get into in a second but He didn't say this. Okay so do nothing that I'm saying this but he did talk a little bit about the trust and how he is places trusting people to easily and he made it sound as if there have been some because he said it as a business owner there there have been some financial decisions that were made at the best interest of other people. He didn't say his parents but he yet without saying it and it was a little. We'll get into that but I just. I think that's where we're about to go but I just wanted to say that I recognize that Just catch you up. His Dad has two kids with his previous girlfriend. Aaron Wagner and he has also a kid with his new wife Chelsea be so. Justin has three half siblings. But he's the only one of his mom's children and the only one from both of them also helps parents obviously her dad's Stephen Baldwin Mary to Kenya Baldwin. They met in nineteen eighty-seven they were married in one thousand nine hundred and they have two daughters ally in Halle. They're still together. Yes which just continues to say what we always talk about about. How different brains work. Yeah we saw a lot in that. Season's thing where they went to his hometown. But it's just it's so different. Yeah we owe question to ask you guys doing what we do. If you haven't tried Bud Light Seltzer. What are you waiting for? I don't really know first off. We tried these and I was a fan of the lemon lime. Strawberry usually was a fan of the strawberry. They have lemon lime mango black cherry strawberry. It's very refreshing and very delicious. Yes it's also one hundred calories and less than one gram of sugar. It tastes great. It's like the kind of thing where I could so easily have this do. It's like a very nice accompaniment. I guess is the word that I'm looking for that. Yes we're scrolling through comments. Were watching the orchards. Like whatever it is. I was happy to have it sitting next. Maybe during keeping up with the Kardashians yes Julie. Yes I love and you paint a picture for me. Take a bud. Light Seltzer Variety. Pack and find your favorite flavor. So he's talking about kind of navigating trust and how he has issues with trusting people but that there are times that he's almost too trusting and he said he's been taken advantage of he's working on navigating off at quote. I'm just trying to figure out how to navigate being married a frigging married now and I got the best wife in the world and supports me through so much. I'm really honored to be your husband. I love that line listener madly in love. I don't care what anybody says. No Da da Right. Yes so Zane then asks him about how he knew he wanted to make music again and we saw this in the in season. Yeah it was. I thing we said this couple of weeks ago but it was when he was on stage with Arianna Grandes Coachella. And everybody's reacted to him. Being on stage and him feeling so comfortable and so alive and it being such a positive experience as opposed to the negative kind of like almost like obligatory way that he felt in two thousand seventeen is like that's when he felt reinvigorated right and there was a lot of validation from being on the stage and I think he had this fear of when he went through this this stage previously that everyone hated him and then no one wanted to see him onstage again and when he got back onstage and saw the reception that he got he realized that you know there was that fear element but he could do it and it's very similar to and Kevlar referencing this. It's very similar to win Taylor Swift Hawk zone. The documentary where she was like I went away for a year because I thought everyone hated me and I thought that's what they wanted. It's a very similar thing and he and you know we never talk about what this that's really interesting is that when he was on stage at Coachella he says album coming soon. And it's only now that I'm rausing. Douse A SPLIT. Second decisions yet. That announcement because didn't think about it before he got on that stage and he got that feeling back and I'm ready to do this again. That happened in literally a moment. And that's what Alison says like when he got off stage. That's what I knew. He was serious fucking around this time. Right Alison says like he got off stage and he was like okay. Sign me up for vocal. Coaching signed me up for this class. Signed me up for this training. And she was like when I knew he was willing to put in the work. That's why I knew he was willing to do it. Yeah I want you to talk about this moment. He Zane asks him about the special moment that he came face to face with. Billy Irish who is very clearly dealing with this exact same thing. It's a public explosion of success in theme and then asks what was going through his mind when he saw her standing there. And it's really interesting because if you so if you see the video. There's this moment when they both recognize each other and billy talks about this. She said in her Carpool Karaoke. Where she's like. I would know the outline of his body anywhere and billy grew up. The biggest Justin Bieber fan posters all over her room. She was the original like she was like US growing up. She was a Justin Bieber. Die Hard Fan like you may not sorry for a little while. I can leave your mom but I know I can't believe it either. Yeah Anyway. So there's this moment where they both see each other and they both just stop and they're staring at each other neither of them move towards each other and Zane asked him what was going through your head at that moment and he just says I just wanted to protect that moment which was so interesting because the way he was talking about it was like you. Don't get a do over at meeting your hero. And that's how he perceived that moment that this was a really important moment in life that she was finally meeting him and he was like. I wanted to protect that moment as much as possible. Because you don't get to do that again. I was blown away by his level of being present in that moment me too. I was blown away like he was talking about this. In retrospect is not like he was saying I now recognize. How BIG OF A DEAL? That was he was saying when he was standing there he recognized the magnitude of that moment and he was doing everything in his power to make sure that it was like as as like sanctify kind of as special for her as the and this is when he starts getting emotional and he's talking about first of all. We says about Kobe. And he's like I just realized. Like especially in retrospect with the whole Kobe situation. Is that like you? Don't get moments ago like they're they're very fleeting and you have one chance at things and you really have to take advantage of those moments and she. He says he just like he wanted to be a good example for Billy Zane asks him. Do you feel protective over her. And he says yes. Yeah definitely feel protective of her. It was hard for me being that young and being in the industry and not knowing where to turn everyone telling me they love me and just turning their back on even a second so yeah. It's hard because I want her to know that she can count on me but at the end of the day I don't want to. I'm never going to force myself to be in a relationship with her. It has natural right so I kinda just let her do her own thing and if she ever needs me. I'm going to be here for her very much. Crime by the way when he's saying this he goes but yeah just protecting those moments because people take for granted encounters so yeah. I just want to protect her. I don't want her to lose it. I don't want her to go through anything I went through. I don't wish upon anybody. So yeah if she ever needs me. I'm just to callaway so he's really crying here. And I think this is another moment of a lot of projection where a lot of people were like. I saw a lot of people commenting on billy's post because she had instagram. This part of the interview and a lot of people commenting and thought it was a little weird that he was crying about her. And all these things and I think that it was so you know she was a stand in for what he was. Feeling exactly didn't have that person and that's not to say you didn't have people in the industry that we're guiding him but I think that he felt a severe lack of yet scooter. Scooter is not a musician. Scooter doesn't know what it's like to get that dopamine high from being on stage and presenting and having every single person tell you they love you and I think that he felt like he had one other person that could have helped him navigate that then maybe things would have been different and you could tell that he wants to do that for billy so badly not just because she was a fan of his but because he feels like because she was a fan of that gives him the opportunity that gives him in that the that gives them the ability to say. Like if you need me I am right here for you because I never want you to go through what I went through and I think also with billy I think it's the closest thing that he to him to his career that and we've seen in an artist where there so young and so- impressionable and their fan base has grown so massively overnight that I think he sees just so much of himself and billy and it's almost like I wish I could have protected myself and it's too late but I can do it for her exactly. He wants to be to her the person that he never had like. He's thinking of himself at that time. Being like what would I need someone like me right now for for you know what I mean? And he wants to be that person that he never had. That's how I feel. It's really beautiful. How emotional he got in that moment. Yeah people are so because they don't understand they're like oh it's weird that he's crying. Billy I know he's get he's emotional reflecting on the fact that like she's experiencing something very similar to the fact to what he did and he knows how badly it fucked up and you know how badly it fucked him up and he so badly number. One doesn't want that to happen to a number to like is remembering that time I think also when you have someone like Billy Isla. She was such a fan of his. It almost seems at times like she wants to follow in his footsteps and I think he's very wary of that. Yeah so while. He's getting really emotional. Zane kind of reminds him about. It's more than just making music being open like this is what is so necessary for changing. Justin says I'm not thinking about anything other than being president this interview with you. That's it we got right now and we've got a story to tell either we're going to be here and we're going to be authentic and honest and real or we're GonNa Bullshit and just done that for years and it's exhausting and like that line. I I could imagine how exhausting that Mustang. Yeah and that's why now we see him so real he's either going to do it and be real or I'm just not going to do it. Which is so great right. We did see him bullshit for so many years. Yeah and he says like he. He just commend. This interviews filled with a lot of mutual respect like Zane plays equal part because Justin is very complimentary towards him because he feels honored that he's giving him the opportunity to share right. You know So he says he just like kind of thanks him for giving him this space and then ask the question that we obviously were really happy. He has how he feels about starting a family because he didn't ask that out of nowhere he asked. Because there's baby sounds on the record. And he says that like especially coming from a family that was unorthodox he wants to start a family in due time but right now he just wants to enjoy being married and that it's definitely an step. Oh I thought of him. 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Be On tour with us. That aren't making as much money and you know. He wants to make sure that all those people are heard and listened to and their inputs are valued and I really. There were two parts of this. I thought were interesting. One was I really liked that. He was talking about putting so much thought into making it a positive work environment for his entire team. And how like all tours start out as starting on his great and they kind of go to ship because of the negativity that comes up right. He wanted to make a conscious effort to not. But the part about the monetary thing. I was like wait just to clarify. It's all you need this tour to arrive. Good life now. It's not like he needs it and I think that I thought okay. So here's what I think. I think that Justin then had to go through a whole change where he really reorganized his priorities. So right now instead of his priorities being fame and money and you know fans he is now rewired his brain so that he knows his priorities are Haley and family and God and being a leader. Yeah and I think that in order to understand when those are your main priorities you have to make everything else. Fit that mold. So if you're going on tour it's like okay. What am I doing this for if my priorities are Haley and my family first and foremost than what is the point of this tour and say? Okay I now know. There's a monetary side of this and I can provide a really really nice life for my family. I think that on some level he understands that he could have done that regardless of this tour. But it's an extra incentive for him an extra way for him to understand what his priorities. Yeah no it's so you're so right. It was almost like he was explaining to himself. Yeah he was rationalizing with himself in a way. Does that make sense? Yes and then the interview you know. We're we're kind of at the end. But he basically Zane asks him now that he's maturing and growing with fans what is all of this mean to him and he said that it was younger. It was confusing when he was younger. Because you're like. Oh that person loves me like you don't fully understand the concept of being such a star right isn't that we gotta dating was really interesting. He's doing of course. Suzanne says you're going. Let you read greetings. At Hammond. Pacify seeing goes also? You're coming from a place where you're again getting back to your family which is where it all begins. We start our journey somewhere with some people and we don't ask for that they're doing the best they can. And you have to process that information and move forward and when you're faced with this adoration this love but you're not quite sure what love is. Which by the way. That's what we always say. You can't choose your family right. You know okay. This is a long time he goes there you go. That's big what we're touching on his big. I don't think people know how big this is. I mean what is love? Love is patient? Love is kind. Love doesn't envy. Love doesn't boast love is and self-seeking love is an arrogant straight out of the fucking Bible. I loves what Haley and I are doing every day waking up in the morning and making this decision to you know we've all these things. Everyone has selfish desires. Everybody has bad thoughts. And just pushing those aside. And saying I'm not going to indulge in that because I have something you give me something that I want more than those things. I wasn't acknowledging them before I was pretending they weren't there. And he knows comes with that self righteousness look at me. Look how good I'm doing because I'm not doing those things. It's the epitome of what I hate but it's something that started doing because I'm like well I'm saying no to all this other garbage and doing the right thing so look at me. I'm a good guy and then people are like what who. Who are you to say? You know what I mean. It's like we're not really good at the end of the day as a core. I don't believe that humans are good and people might twist this and make it seem like I'm saying humanity is not good. I don't know I just feel like at the core fight everyday. Temptation and things that are instinctive. Whatever it is Li- be greedy all these things that just naturally come. I gotTA fight to not be that. Maybe that's my unique thing. Maybe that's me personally. Not because that way and I just accept that and I just know that that's not who I am because humanity. It's just come to a place of being really you know it's broken. I mean just look around. I mean the pain. That's just. He really gets kind of FIDGETY. In this part was really. Did you have the same thought that I did here? Okay so this is really important first of all going back for one single against him. Being so fidgety. The part that he says that humanity isn't good that he doesn't believe before good. That's a really interesting point that like I feel like first of all. That's a lot of Christianity. And they're like the idea of original sin and you know you start out as bad and you fight you know urges and come good. I just felt like it. His view of Humanity. And how emotional he got about. The world is really talent. It was fucking fascinating. Yeah but also okay so this party gets really anxious and he starts playing with the Styrofoam Cope Cop and you notice. Haley comes in and brings him a full cup of water to me. That was so like Haley. Exactly anticipating what he needed because her bringing a cup of water had absolutely nothing to do with him needing water. It had to do with her recognizing he was getting anxious and fidgeting fidgety and if he had a full cup of water and his hand he wouldn't be able to move that. Styrofoam Cup. Like that. You will if you listen if you're watching the interview here like the. Cyber Cup thing couldn't have gone on for more than probably thirty seconds. It was a very annoying. It was very dry. I'm sure production was freaking the fuck out. But they kept it in because it was so necessary. It was like one of those things. We're watching. It was so important right like you really needed the visual the whole situation and for her to come in bring the full cup of water and for him to say like thanks. I appreciate you. It was it was really a moment I loved that moment. Those are really key part of the interview. I completely agree. She knew she pinpointed. Yeah he was like I know exactly what his triggers are and what his actions are in what he does when he gets anxious and I know how to stop it right now. Let's listen if you're if you're a critic you're GonNa say you don't think production was sitting in the back with our like. Get Him. A couple of water. We can't have this on on the sound. Yeah I'm sure that was going through their minds. What we're saying is that we think she innately knew right. You know what I might do. It was it was not great from sound quality level obsolete somebody else could have brought down from somebody brought for him in the beginning of the show is exactly exactly so. I. I completely agree with you. That was very telling but also like he was really. He was really fucking honest. You're saying that he fights his temptations every single day and I think people don't really admit that they don't it's kind of like I'm just this new person now. It's interesting to. It's interesting to hear him say that him fighting temptation means that he's a bad person at the core or that he believes the people are bad at the core rather than like people are good with bad things mixed in. Yeah it was very very telling about the way he views himself. That's what it is more than anything else he said. Maybe this is just unique to me. Right he really is like this. He works really fucking hard. Yeah is what it is to be what he considers to be like quote good. Well I think that you can tell that he's not anything on this industry. You can tell it. He's not on the other side of Ono. No he is so in it but I think that he wants you to know that he does. He literally says I'm in the I'm being as president is one possibly be here. He is this is. Why going back on Justin Bieber's life and like thirty years. We're looking back at a at a glance. It's going to be really you. It's so rare that we get like most celebrities. Do It on the other side. He's fully in it. Yeah you know no. He's not in it as as he was during the drugs phase but this is a totally other level of different. Because you see it. You're right because you see during you know a quote breakdown and then I'm okay and you don't see that in between and he is showing you the inbetween. You don't usually see artists working on themselves or celebrities working on themselves in showing you like. I'm not one hundred percent there yet but I'm way better than I was. Yeah you typically see when they're like on the full other side and I think that this is what brings draws people to him or to anybody or you see them when they're not on the father's side but they do everything in their power to lead you to believe. Yeah Yeah I'm trying. To think of an example then is not Daniela motto. Yeah but she she was by yes she she felt like she was on the other side of it but she talks about her documentary. And I don't know if you've seen it. She talks about things that she did while she was still using and she says like I made the entire world thinks that I was clean. Every time I went out did an interview every time I was on stage. I tricked everyone into believing that I was fine. And she was like in part thought. I was fine. Yeah ex yeah. He's not he really doesn't want to do that because he did it for so long. Yeah yeah so it. Kind of conflict concludes with Zane. Asking him where he would want to be at the end of this decade since the last decade kind of felt so out of control that he's worked so hard to get the control back and just and says quote. I just feel like there's so much to look forward to. I'm really excited. Emotional thinking about it and he looks at Haley. He's like I'm excited to have babies with you fucking chills and I'm excited to enjoy and just celebrate all the amazing things that we've been given because we are blessed babe we talk about it all the time. We just have a thing. Rita say we're so blessed we are man there's so much pain in the world and we don't understand why there's so many things that are so unexplainable but what is the reality. We are blessed and it's hard that dichotomy of like how can we mourn the loss of someone and accept that we are still blessed? I think that's a really hard thing to discover but I think when you get there. It's a beautiful place to be. I LOVE TOUCH DOT com. Yeah I truly I mean it was. Listen my feeling on this interview was it wasn't profound. It's not like he's sitting here saying all these profound statements but what it was was real it was really really vulnerable and I enjoyed it so thoroughly. I thought it was the best insight to him that we've got an even more honestly even more than seasons. Yeah because it was. It was one flowing conversation right. He wasn't it was totally different. Yes seasons was like also seasons was so much about the album for an interview that is promoting an album. It was a very small portion of a very larger conversation which is exactly what he wanted. I think what Zane wanted and what I wanted but we all want. I can't get over him saying that the moment he knew he wanted to marry when he saw her playing with. The baby is beyond me. No I mean when he when he said I want to have babies with you and looks her in the eyes and says we don't get that from. We don't get that from celebrities. I'm sorry we just don't get that as much like even I don't even see even Jonasson Sophie. Turner really are expecting their kid. I don't know an interview for Joe. Jonas is GonNa look at Sophie. Turner and say I want to him so excited to have babies with you. I just it doesn't happen as much. I don't know I feel like we also very rarely see someone like Justin so vulnerable and not just justin most honestly most men in interviews To be that vulnerable was a huge step and they talk about that a lot. How like how you know it helps and I think just in really feels that way. It's not just like he's helping. Billy Ocean is not just helping other artists. They think that he feels that if he's sitting here being sold on vulnerable and talking about what he's going through then it's anybody can do that and he says he's like if Justin can sit here and be so open and vulnerable than I can too. Yeah I think that at the core of it even though if he may not agree. I think at the corporate. He's a really good person and I think he went through a lot and is going through a lot but I really commend him for working on himself and allowing us the privilege of being on it because quite frankly we don't deserve we don't need it and it's not only is a great content also fascinating. I think he's I think that that's a huge part. Is I think that he has to be able to see himself as a good person because I think that somebody with a bad at their core. You don't bother working on your if you're truly bad at your core. It doesn't matter you don't work towards being better for yourself and you don't work towards being better for other people especially and I think there's a huge level of self awareness that we see in him in this interview that we've never seen before from him because I don't think he had it before. Yeah I so agree anyway. We really had the time of our lives watching this. Thank you for doing it. Thank you for doing it. Thank you everybody on Scooters Team. Thank you whoever imagine being a baby. Yeah thank you for that tectonic literally. I was the baby that got Justin Haley back together. Yes I was listening to find out who was from many Alex. Maybe that could be. I have to know yeah anyway that was just I had. I had the best time. So if you WANNA watch a great if not we basically just told you might be pointless pointless now definitely just watch just to see his mannerisms like even if you just take one clip. 'cause you'll see what we mean But anyway we love you guys. 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091Success and Employee Happiness

The Small Business Success Podcast

42:18 min | 1 year ago

091Success and Employee Happiness

"How do you listeners? As we all know planet Earth has seven point five billion people and seven point. Four billion of those people have small businesses now to be fair numbers that size can be hard to envision and to be fair most of what I just said is entirely made up. But I'll tell you what isn't made up. Keep keep is the all in one client management software designed line specifically for small businesses. Keep takes the most annoying and laborious parts of running a small business and metaphorically tosses them into the sun. Stop Grinding yourself to death with busy you work and repetitive tasks. Let keep integrate your customer follow ups Messaging Automation Next Level Appointment setting and so much more head over to keep dot com and start your free trial of of keep grow. Keep pro or for those looking for something. beefier talked to one of our coaches about infusion soft product that started it all more business less work. That's keep just go to keep dot com to start your free trial that's K. E. DOT com one more time that's K. E. DOT com. Hi this is crystal and I'm rob and this is small Biz. Buzz presented by Keep Ladies and gentlemen boys and girls children of all agents. Welcome to the small business buzz. PODCAST my name is Robert Stevenson. I'm your host all wrong. Are we starting over. Do we keep going through his mistakes. Rob and then he gets offended when he's like Derek. Why didn't you think of me so let me go ahead and do a Derek actually asked you to do? I had a feeling I would have to do that. But hello everyone today. We have two great gus. Jenny Bio and Andrew Roberts here to talk to you about keeping employees happy happy in the workplace. Why it's important? What type of things keep them happy and we hope that you enjoy the show? That's fair but I was going to get there. I mean just went right to the clearly expressed to you that the intros already done. He's using not intro. We just need to introduce our lovely guests here. I'll tell you what doesn't bring Workplace Happiness S.. Sometimes it's rob's inability to listen and then he gets mad when he's like why do they keep wanting crystal to intro in in fairness I was blended did by Jenny's crocs so once I got my eyes on those crocks I there was. It was like nothing else. Mattered guys jammies wearing crocs and I'm not one to embarrassed elite about their shoes. I'll say I would never put them on my feet but there are cheerful color pink and they've got adornments. Would we call them. Yes yes they have a real name but I don't know what it is but my crops are definitely conferencing names and the little the little adornment you're having is your clock playing. It's not crock plague. Because that's the wind right there. Possibly crock spoke like I'm bikes. Maybe embellishment adornment. I read so if you see other people with crocs and you're like oh I have more blamed than you or I have land blend there there is but I. I'm not that all that matters. Is Your under feet a lot during the day around here. So do they keep you happy. They keep me very happy. You keep wearing them then. I suggest everyone tries some rob. Nobody said the crux. Don't make people happy. I was simply commenting that you don't see them every day. Especially Bright Pink Pepito Biz Mall. Crock blinked crocs on that note. Why didn't you guys share a little bit about why you're here today because we know you're experts we see every day and you definitely keep a lot of people happy and this building but why didn't you share a little bit about your background and what you do for us here round? Keep I'm jenny bail. And I've been working for keep for six years. Yes I wear crocs usually only on Fridays how long have you been a crock. Victoriano probably seven years seven years. Having started here it was on my resume. It was part of the process. Yeah they wanted. And it's it's funny because your title is master of First Impressions which is fantastic. And if anything's going in a master first impression it's going to be pepple pepple abysmal kraken crocs. Yes they make a very strong lasting impression and it's very demonstrating demonstrating here. It's very quickly become conversation. Point so really post. Some pictures of these. Two lovely is because of rob is giving you a very bad impression. Jenny has it together. Yeah there may be from the ankles to the head so I don't want you to go ahead and judge her on the CROCK. She's got very stylish hair all the time. There's storable and always a cute outfit so Jenny. Endurable your implication that she has it together from her ankle store ahead implies that ankle south. Let's go ahead. Andrew Save us. Let's talk about Let's talk about employee engagement how to make people happy. What makes you happy on a daily basis Hereford? You know what makes me. Happy is understanding standing. Why I go to work because that's really what I spend most of my day when I'm is I'm here at work and understanding that Microphone is the police. That's kind of my audience and that too. I put all my energy towards so really what makes me. Happy is understanding that everybody has what they need to really kind of Go towards your goals goals as well as you know what some of the elements like I absolutely loved to laugh If you come to the front desk where Ginny and I both work too is traditionally laughter. There so we're always here for a good time and I feel like laughter really couldn't help sets off the date just just to know that. Like as you Kinda go about your day with meetings and all your workload that you can laugh and you can have a moment just like being in a good mood and let him that kind of I chance center at your hours at work. That's really cool. I mean so much of happiness and All of those details comes down to energy. And if I had one word to describe you it would be energy Andrew is the key Heitmann. He'd literally is bouncing off the walls. I literally literally. He bounces off the walls with this exuberance and adjust is infectious and it just is a barometer of happy inside the organization. I like that you said Ed infectious because happiness and the energy is so contagious. And I think that's the reason why Janine IRA both in this role of being masters of First Impressions. This is because we really feed off of each other and I would say out of the whole entire company. We probably affect more. We have more touch points with A white variety of keepers here. So yeah so we have the ability to just kind of like bouncer energy out of them and we feed off of that. All right. Yes the role itself master master. First impression I mean first and foremost it's degree guests but what I appreciate about. My role is that it is very much focus on the employees and taking care of them and I joked that Andrew and I are the rooms to four hundred kids and he he keeps reminding me that to working title but I do When when you think of schools and so often the art to the first thing that gets cut when they're trying to tidy up and buckle down and when you think of of a workplace a lot of times the little things are what often gets overlooked or like? We don't have time to do that. But it's greatly encouraged our role and I think it has a huge influence on the way people feel we are able to remember the little things and something that's naturally happened in. Our role is kind of the salon affect a lot of people come take a break from their desk and come chat with us just to you. Know to vent to Get a laugh a piece of chocolate. But it's great as Andrew said we have great connections with keepers all throughout the building ending and it creates a stronger bond in the building. It's the people that I love to come see every day and it's for those little things that have a great effect on keeping in place happy. I mean that impact can't be understated crystalline. We're doing some research on employee happiness and one of the things that we read is that happy employees are twenty percent more productive duct of the non happy employees and it feels like such a low bar like. Are you happy at work are you happy. Are you a happy person. But that's not something you can interview for. Doan writes on their resume. I'm a happy person. I'm happy employees. So you need to have these mechanisms in place. So what are the things. What are some of the things that you guys have seen or that you've done or that people have inspired or where does this energy come from? ooh You now. I I see a lot in Jenny and it allows me to kind of like reciprocate energy but really taking. I think the big word here is care when people feel cared about when you when you talk about the little things and Jenny mentioned Those little things when when they are sparked by carrying about somebody you know we're able to do things for instance Ariza keeper here and you know not say their name but you know they had been out of remission For cancer in Germany had come. She knew I had been like I think a couple of years so she drafted up. Agendas are resident artist IT S. She's fantastic right. I'm like Oh my gosh. She needs illustrate my body. Just make me look really skinny She was able to a to draw up a card to celebrate this moment for this keeper and she had noticed from their posts on facebook. So you know the fact that people we've been able to establish a relationship with individuals that the lettuce their lives it allows us to really focus on care and I think that will in turn like a domino effect and then boom happiness prevails. Yeah although you guys are definitely masters at first impression out just side out. I had a friend visit the office Last week Thursday and and before I could get up to the front to grab her she had already text me and said the gentleman at the front desk is reason enough to work here and it was like within the five minutes of me walking to the front. So what you guys do at that front desk is super important but you guys do a lot of other things around around the office to keep us all happy and there's some dark moments. We had no caffeine in here for about a week. And I'll tell you I was trying to protect Andrew through it got rowdy quick so I think there's like a level of expectation. Once you get happy where you almost kinda start forgetting what you may have had add before or where you came from or that these things are benefits and traits you know how do you guys handle through times that get dark like no caffeine or things like that. How do you handle keeping people happy and keeping focused on the positive? I think that's a really tricky time. We all love the the cool things especially especially about our work place here at keep. We have the wonderful cereal bar and the freestyle coke machine and Ping Pong table. There have been dark times where something simply broken down or there's just a big shift and something might be going away and it. There's a lull before something new comes in and it does affect people. It's tricky to navigate that I think one of the biggest things to remember at least for me because it kind of eventually affect my attitude too and I know that when Andrew and I are down or negative it it does affect everyone else to. Yeah so I'm trying to it's rare but he's fouled by guys do a good job of managing that so I cried into your pillow. Okay whatever you guys do. Sometimes the word entitlement is thrown around. And it's not so much to debate whether employees are entitled or are not entitled. I think it's To take a moment remember the gratitude of that keep is a really unique place to work and especially shortly after our company meeting that we just had it takes simply sometimes just a little lend shift when you believe in what we're doing for small business and that is we're going back to the bigger picture. Sure I guess is what it is in a nutshell of yes. It's fun when there's candy at the front desk and drawings on the White Board and it it does there those are embellishments. It's just like my cracks that that make it a little razzle dazzle but I think in dark times. We'd go back with Jenny. And I want to build on the point you you you mentioned something very interesting to me about employee entitlement or that sense of entitlement Part of building a workforce that is dynamic and productive means taking care of them financially. intially means taking care of them holistically from a benefit or a healthcare whatever perspective but it also is is keeping ahead of trends of of things that you've heard and other companies do that making employees happy or something that is relevant to an employee's individual experience like you your story about the remission card What are some of the things that you've seen in the world that you know are are your go-to for for making people happier keeping employees happy? You can take that manager love I have noticed that you can have some of the fanciest items like you can have some of the coolest quiet stations and work pods. I'm but when you don't have an atmosphere that cultivates you know creativity network like that organic ability veto just like I see somebody who is maybe sitting by themselves eating lunch and I'm GonNa go there and join them I think even with the Times it still goes goes back to those like the foundation of like. Am I happy where I'm at you know like you could have this accused cafeteria where you know you subsidize all of the lunch and you're like oh sweet. I only pay three dollars to. Have you know an anchor Steak Burger and French fries and a soda and whatnot. But when you come to a point where you have that where you eating that. Yeah how excited are you to give it nourishment and then go back to work so like here at the office. We kind of like. Remember those things and it's you know no investing in our people in knowing I was reading Like some of the things that helps people see happy in the workplace and the thing that was said was take it. Interest in who your employees are a knowing that they are hurt and that they are valued and I think if we go back to that bring on all the nutrients and we'll get there so another episode of worth business ideas in history. I'm Dr You I am Ducey Van Dusen and today we're GONNA be talking about wow chips or less chips as some people might know them. Ah I still remember the. I still remember. The logo is a big. W O W is very prestigious so for those who don't know Y or Olestra chips were a product that were put out in the late nineties I ate this product. I enjoyed this product for a period and then I really didn't enjoy this age. Yeah what change the contents of my stomach. So so Leicester Chips Olestra was this product that was put out by and it was basically a fat substitute. It was Zero fat half the calories but it tasted exactly like vegetable oil or whatever you use to produce chips. It's awesome. Yeah it tastes it. Take let me say this. The product tasted delicious. Yeah absolutely delicious. I ate more of this product than I should have. Yeah I think I think it kind of passed passed by. Which is why you're the one talking about these things? You can consume a lot of dumb cultural problems. I will always back the wrong horse. I had a SEGA CD brought a super nintendo anyway. Tom So I lived in Kokomo. Indiana when this product came out And a lot of people have in hand this product because it got taken off store shelves but I got to get an early because we were a test case because what a lot of people don't know Is that in the Midwest and parts of Middle America in general companies will test their Products to just basically do like you know. Get A swatch of Middle America and then avoid like the big PR scandals that might come out of the product. Doesn't go well. They kind of isolated isolated like. Yeah not as many news organizations that are that are recognized across the country. That kind of thing right like you don't WanNa do this in Manhattan you don't want to do this in L. A.. Okay off aw. So they tested it where we live. They tested lots of stuff. They this is the place where they they They would test things like the KFC double down well talk radio TACO bell like cult wide variety. I am convinced Taco bells going to create a biological weapon. And that's what are they gonNA win the fast food wars. Anybody who's watched demolition man knows you can do worse worse. So they tested out out there. They even put them in our schools in the vending machines for real. How yeah and I tried them and as a Chubby kid at that age loved him? I I like I can eat as many of these as well. Then a week passes and things are not fine so he can give passing so so what happened was was Olestra. It was discovered the molecules that make up Olestra are too large actually be digested by the human body and so they go in and then they come right back out okay. Hey causing politely deemed rectal discharge. These are their words wrapped. I'll discharge stomach cramping and loose stool. which which is just a just explosive poops all over the place? There's no other way there's no way to get around. So how outed how do they get to this point like don't they have to test and make sure that this new chemicals healthy before it goes out to Massmart this past the FDA it past the FDA. The company did what they were technically supposed to to do. The problem is that when they tested it they tested it in small focus groups and when you test small focus groups like this. You're not going to give each of them a big like family family values size bag of chips and just watch them go ham on it with a great seat. I want you to eat this entire bag of chips in fleece I'm going to sit. We're here and watch you mature. It is empty taking notes. They're going to give them a little bowl and they're going to do with these are delicious and they were I. I don't want to. I want to be clear. The product was delicious. But what an actual person is going to do. They're going to buy a full size bag of this thing and they're going to burn through it during they're gonNa Watch Dr Quinn Medicine Woman and they're going to finish that bat when you do that. The body says Oh. This is too much of this this bizarre product for me. Let's get this Outta here. I personally succumb to this product during a cross country flight in which I was forced to spend forty minutes in a airplane. Lene Idaho. Airport and airplane bathrooms. That's yeah the the flight attendants worst nightmare Alestra. Who knew they were not happy? Nobody was happy with me on the product initially did really well. Three hundred and fifty million dollars in its initial month of release. That's Lis Lis must have seen. Just they're like this is amazing raising. Let's put it out everywhere so they did immediately following so did the bad press and precipitously a month later the product revenue was cut in half. I'm and then half again until like the PR storm was too much to ignore and they ended up. I taking it off the shelves entirely and rebranding it as light and then eventually the product has mostly disappeared disappeared from public view. You say mostly mostly you can still get it. You can still get products less dry in it. Now they're hard to find K okay. The Olestra is buried in a list of arrogance but the FDA never pulled this off the shelves all they did was they forced lays to put a warning label on it and eventually actually just the mechanics of of the economy and people not buying the product in the bad pr. Force them to self police and just taken off so This this begs the question. What what can small business from myself in the shoes of a small business owner and say what's the takeaway from from this lesson And I think one of the first things is product testing if you've got a product if you've got something that German making and as you're selling it's easy for you to look at it and go. This is perfect. This is exactly what I want. And it's great for me but spending the time with you know a wider group of people that you think might represent who your target audiences of really letting them spend some time with it not rushing into market because this stinks of something that was like they tested it. People said this they couldn't get it on the shelves fast enough. Yeah Yeah what about something. What about you know? Small Business owners that have some sort of service as opposed to doing a product. You know if they're listening and saying why don't believe leap developed products. How does this apply to me? Well even if you're providing a service you have to you have to think long and hard about how is that customer going going to engage with your service a month later or six months later not that long ago I had my entire house torn up and all the pipes under my home replaced now right now. That plummer is my hero but in six weeks if that plumbing starts leaking again enemy so you have to think just because as you get the customer's money and just because they're happy when you first hand them the product or the service you gotta think about what they're gonNa feel about you six months a year two years late absolutely hopefully. Hopefully they don't feel like everybody who ate Alestra feels like So to all of you out there. Thank you for tuning in. This has been worst business ideas in history history. I'm Derek how are you. I'm Anderson and we'll talk to you next time I keeping ever-expanding client info straight sending the same e mails hundreds of times scheduling in and rescheduling appointments over and over. Who enjoys this nonsense? No one except my cousin. Brent and Brent is the absolute worst keep is the premier all in one crm just head over to keep dot com. That's K. E. AP DOT COM and start your free trial today. Get the busy work out of the way so you can focus on what's important and make your small business grow with keep start your free trial at keep dot com that's K. E. AP dot com more business less work. That's keep passer on social. I see all the time. It's really appreciate it and I think for me things that keep me happy around here. I would strip all the fancy stuff. The cereal bar the soda. I mean don't tell people I've had people warned me that. What if I mentioned the cereal bar getting rid of it again? They'll tackle me but I think I would get rid of all of that to keep the people we have in the building anytime very makes us. The fact is is the team building. We do around here. That's really important to me. You WanNa come to a place you actually like the people you're working with. I feel like we have experts in house. I'm lucky to work work with every day. That have helped me grow. But also I think we've had Just Fun people. They're really cool. I love the tailgates. Getting to know the other employees plays better. I like being part of subcommittees or cross functional teams where you get to know kind of everyone's expertise. I love seeing you. Dance Andrew on social media media so that I can you know you get a feel into other people's lives and I think you guys do that really in fairness I pulled my back just watching Andrews dance moves on on Instagram. I am so if you really want to know. I actually pulled back the goods. You did a good job but I mean we're lucky here too because aside from some of the stuff that maybe smaller businesses may not have unlimited caffeine. Most of the time. Unless something's broken we also we just got done with a weight loss challenge which I think is really fun during the holiday a season Helping you just do what you should be doing anyway. Like either staying on track or you know losing weight at a time people gain and I just wait in lost four pounds. But it's something I might not have been conscious during the holiday. Had we not had like everyone rallied around it and a team of people that were weighing in that were kind of holding each other accountable. So we do lots of things like that The unlimited vacation for me is huge. Let's let's go back to that. I like the employees weight loss. I think that's fantastic example. I wonder Duri if we're being honest with ourselves. How many people came out of that room? Happy Holidays are extremely hard to lose weight. Page Clark Okay so you go into glad so tastic waving ducey did a good job to okay. That's fantastic. I just wonder you know. From happiness perspective of how many people people really fulfilled all of their goals over the even if you don't you still have a team and you know if if I had come out of it trust me. Based on the scale at home I was concerned. I wasn't sure GonNa come out copy or just even but I'm just saying you know like having a team of people rallying around state and healthy that just helps you keep your goals up and keep it forefront. When your mom's bringing like five dozen Christmas cookies from Albuquerque to your house and then conveniently leaves them there? It's like just helpful to remember member these things Albuquerque. Christmas cookies was actually the name of my Christmas band that I when I was in sixth grade. The so let's talk about small business for a second It is so personal. You're working so hard day in day out. especially if you're a solar pur-nuri ever you live and breathe than eat your success or your goals as you try how to build out success. What are some really easy basic things that we can recommend to some of our small businesses to focus on from From a happiness perspective when you said small business and and I and I think of small businesses might make a lot of my family have been small business owners and when I hear our customer stories enter and I have our we. uh-huh greet our new hires and we have a segment. Would we spent some time with them going over our our purpose and our our values and our mission. There's a second in there that has it's a really brief timeline of how infusion soft came to be which is now keep and there's a segment did officially started in two thousand one and there's a segment in there it was the first year that our our founders Tacoma Livable paycheck so that's a lot of years that they worked their butts off and didn't always see the reward and I I always try to point that out because it's a reminder that our our founders were in the same boat that small business owners are now and one thing that Scott mentioned was that as we go through things we have to remember to have fun and whatever I mean. That's a very you know. The Ping Pong table is highly used here. Yeah especially are counting guys. They use it a lot and they're very heads down working hard but then they remember to have a fun break and the fun break is very subjective. You can go outside simply take a walk But remembering to to counter the hard work with some fun in whatever kind of Levity you groove on like wearing crocs or talk about the ping pong table because I played a lot as a kid and I'm pretty good. I can probably beat most of my friends if I said. Hey let's play pingpong but then you come here and you watch the caliber of the people who are playing the case. It's forrest gump quality. It is a man as how good people are Ping Pong and there breathing heavy and the balls are getting smashed over into different aisles and all across the field that it's like well I'm just going to go sit back down. I guess because because I thought I'd come for a fun game but at this point. Yeah they play table tennis. I play Ping Pong. I've never been good at Ping Pong but you know what brings me joy well before I was really like working hard on counting. My calories was opening up the side Pantry that for probably at least a year of being here. I didn't realize that was our area it to open and seen cherry pop tarts we hill one box out of twenty five. That's the Cherry one. And when there's a cherry pop op tired. I'm like I'm living good. We're pantry you know where it is. where the peanut butter Jelly is? We have peanut butter jelly. So I'm happy what I did had no. I'm rob okay so we have a kitchen here. That's microwaves it's got it's serious microwaves. It's the one on the left. It used to be the one on the right then. The oh I always thought that was Andrew Jennings territory. I- respectful I don't go and other people's kitchen start tearing stuff out other people go in there and come out with stuff. I'm like what's in there. Finally I mean I looked but the cherry pop tart. I don't know how we decide. What numbers of what boxes to get? But when there's a cherry pop tart there's one time I'm not gonNA lie when I was on a downward spiral that I tried to hide it behind all the other ones because I was like in case I want one later in the week. I'm not like you know mean enough to go hide an extra one of my drawer because unlike its first come first serve and I'm GonNa make it harder for them to come at all to this box and I came back and was already gone. Heard Horror No. That's what I'm saying. I only believe and taking when you're going to eat it because it's a communal area. However those cherry ones are hard to come from so I did get a little petty and hide? I hid behind behind like five other flavors to get tricky. No they were. We need a Nicholas Cage. Dan Brown angels and Demons Map to find the vk you because they were gone. Two days later I went over and I'm like oh I bet they didn't find it. No they were gone but anyway we get a little spoilt here A question I had was. How do you guys feel about? There was a software engineer company. That actually made a title for someone as the jolly good fellow and his entire higher job was to go around the company. Make people happy and then we were reading further over a thousand chief happiness roles across linked in right. Now how. How do you guys feel about that being an entire all? I mean if you think that there were we've come to a point in life whereas society has shifted and like the workload has shifted and how people are spending their time away from their families to really support their family and that somebody saw a need to be able to have somebody there to be like the extreme ambassador for business to be able to focus on people's energy levels and being able to feel invested in that just goes to show how important the work that we we're so fortunate to be a part of to be able to agree people buying name The fact that I feel jetting we probably can pull everybody up in one solid line and just tell everybody like name the really Yeah I named second would be an last name would be tricky but first name yes. Wow Yeah I I probably four hundred employed. Let's let's get to be clear that is an accomplished. That is that is something to be. Wow that's amazing when you see. It's amazing when when we think about it it's really not hard because we come from the Lens when you come in this door you were joining a team. That is so focused based on small business success and that all the hard work that they do is going to go back to their families. All you're doing is you're just joining. You're just joining the wagon. So when we invest and you just think that hey we're welcoming your long lost family member and you can take that lense. It's so easy to know who they are. And so to your point it is so oh fantastic that they are roles that are coming out right now to really invest in our people and say. Hey guess what your happiness matters because we understand the results of happiness happiness and in order for us to grill. We need you to be a part of this. We need you to be an ambassador. Yeah and happy ambassadors. Just make the world go round. I love that I'm like I don't know. Divide it a bit by this topic because when I read that I thought well that's silly and then I think people like you and definitely. I think. Youtube both are able to do that role but I think it'd be very hard to find other people that can do the way you guys do. Then I question myself do you guys think it's also any responsibility of the employee themselves to have a certain level of happiness. Because I will say I'M NOT GONNA name names but there's some people I've seen around the building that they they do have a sense of entitlement. I'M NOT GONNA ask you to call anyone out. But they have entitlement or they feel like they're owed certain things. I've had a lot worse so I'm grateful I love what we we have here. I love having people like you and I do. I am one of the ones that takes breaks as you guys know to. Just step away and get to some happiness and I will chat with you guys for like fifteen twenty minutes sometimes sometimes just to get my head out of where I was but I think there is a certain level of responsibility to keep yourself happy at work. So how do you guys feel about that. I would definitely agree with that. And that can be debated until we're blue in the face and I speak only for my own personal development of my own life when I expected my parents to keep me happy when I was younger anger and then my boyfriend to keep me happy and so on as it goes and I finally reached an age where I realized that I'm responsible for my own happiness that for me. That was a huge shift and left for a lot more gratitude. Then expecting everyone to keep me happy so Andrew do you to think there's a bit of a responsibility there for employees to keep themselves happy to a degree as well. Yes I think when we realize what what we what makes us happy and understand. This really brings me joy. And all of these other are just elements. That are like seasonal Franci- I'm like Ping Pong now but in ten years it's going to be nothing to me so finally understanding really what it's like lasting joy what is that and and how does that move me and you know maybe having free lunch every single day although it's beautiful into cute little perk it doesn't necessarily bring me dry. I can still do the work that I'm call deal in can do it with my flavor with our having that sized up that for your own your own flavor on it. Okay I I WANNA do a bit of a thought not exercising here for everyone We Work A- keep. It's a great company where we are focused very very specifically on small business success but we are very lucky that there are some really cool perks and privileges that we could take it back here. So let's go around the table. Let's Talk A and this is a two part question. The first part. What's your? What's your favorite perk at Ed? Keep Andrew Surprisingly enough in this may sound kind of cheesy and of course he would say that but having the ability to have an application here like the piece of the software that we can use outside of work is so key coming from the entertainment background that I came from and then and learning the software and understanding its capabilities and the fact that I have that for the rest of my life I get to use that. I sent an email blast to my family members. It's Kinda cool even though I don't own no business but it's Kinda Fun to know that I can do that. So yeah your your own edition of the keeps offers. That's very cool. So I love that for sure and I let me see here. Akash a perk this. Oh what's again this. I feel like the sounds like World peace answer but a perk. That I think is really fun is knowing I mean that we have the tailgate which is every quarter we have the ability to you know? Shut the business down in network in Halfon with each other but really gives us an opportunity. Genieford Janine either really Kinda do at work call to you but have so much fun with people so I like things. How about you Jenny? What's what's something that you'd like to take advantage of my well? Well my favorite perk is when for time I think that's a huge advantage explained that for pre one for time the way I understand it not be exact industry definition mission is that you are. You can take off as much time as you need so long as it aligns well with what's going on in the company your team and I it's I don't don't take advantage of it because I love my job so much in that sounds really cheesy but I think it's a huge advantage in it. I've seen it come into effect an especially positive ways when somebody's sick when they have a family emergency it's not a UC. You know I had someone pass away but I have to be back to work tomorrow. It's I I think it's the care side of when for time that I love. I think it's a great great perk. The one perk that I took advantage of negativity was the the Free Candy. which is the free is fantastic? I ate too much of it. But there's no such thing as too much candy. Thanks a lot. I two that I love is a keeper has to do with communication the fact that if I have something really burning I can share it with my leader an I can even go as high as slacking one of our executives and share my thoughts. That's a perk. That's not so much sold in in the interview process but the fact that we have that type of environment here where I can communicate for my heart to my leader and even to an executive in an engine even shared something with our chief people officer that we can even step directly to them and share thoughts. I I try to take advantage of that as much as I can. And if it's if it's not cherry pop tarts then everything is a lie. It's not cherry pop tarts because also I'm off that bandwagon the downward downward spiral a stopped. But if I would spiral of Cherry bomb stop it. Has you heard it here first. Yes so if there's so many you're you're asking the person that just crying tears one. No I'm not giving you just one but I cried. Happy Tears in my review yesterday because really the thing that I'm most grateful four since I've been here has been like the growth I've had in two years. It's GonNa and just thinking about it again but I mean I'm with a leader that really supports me and Wants me to do my best all the time and through the growth. I've had here and her trust in me to do those things. I've actually grown personally to like like I feel more confident in my own skin standing here so I mean that's something that didn't cost anything. Just a great leader shouts Laura Collins But like a great great leader power to grow trust to do that. Those are worth more than anything else I get but if you WanNa talk about other things. I'm addicted to the caffeine. That is something. I don't expect it when it's broken. I don't get down the dumpster. One hundred Andrew down or Jenny but basically those are the things that I probably take advantage of the most growth and soda so I think Well first of all. I didn't know we had cherry pop tarts so my answer is fluid I didn't know we had peanut butter and Jelly so so I I reserve that. I didn't know we had a secret. Magic cabinet at the left of the kitchen. Respectful like there will be exploration later. I think it's something go to be very light here. It's something that Jenny reference there. We have a free style coke machine in the kitchen and it allows you to make and I it so many comedy like hundred and fifty different kinds of soda and I don't even like soda that much but I can go if I want and get a glass of ginger lemon diet coke and that's my go-to because it's the hardest defied you literally have to like four buttons to get there and Andrew. Andrew just made the face I got some today and someone looked it up like why are you. I'm doing that I'm like because I can't because it's there I feel like I gave you the look that you gave jetties crocs o just like two and everyone knows that look I did promise a two part question if you have any a perk if anything in the world very quickly what what. What perk would you want? If I could make get up. I would ask that every family. So every employee would have one solid week that they would spend with their family. It would just literally literally be. I need you to disconnect. I need you to remember. You know I feel like I'm forcing this on. But I feel like people work for their family whether it just be them in their spouse or them commended for baby them in there. You know the parents I I would think there'd be so cool. Just be like what are your working at home because going a little vacation spend time with their family. That's kind of like. Oh a instant y you work as hard as you do. I guess how about you Jenny. Well after that answer anything I say is going down on all Sir petty if I could create a worksite perk mine well mine's a little biased. Because I love art and I believe that everyone has an innate ability to create my road be to have a room. That's pretty much might look like a kindergarten classroom. It's full of art supplies anything that you could use to go back. To taking breaks Florida's art is a great way to to let the brain rest and have fun and and our actually even refocus so it would be a big giant art room where people could come play full disclosure. I color at a kindergarten level so I would in writing. So that's perfect. It's it's excellent for you cowering. Lots of coloring. I A perk which is very simple. I go up and down the stairs to the support team to the product team. Marketing Team I would get a slide. We would love. I think a slide tackle crash pad at the bottom. Be Fantastic. Great Okay for me. It's going to sound super cheesy but I actually am very fulfilled and I'm happy so that just brings us to the end of this where we can all agree that happiness in the workplace is very important and there's lots of ways to get there So if you're out there and you've got a small business. There's lots of things that don't cost anything to keep people happy. And I think putting focus because there whether it's in a role or any kind of effort is going to be worth your time and considered an investment because you'll get a return on it so that's it for today guys. Thank you for being here. We really appreciate it. 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#1259 Doom & Gloom Blowhard

The Adam and Dr. Drew Show

35:37 min | 10 months ago

#1259 Doom & Gloom Blowhard

"Thanks for listening to the Ataman Dr Drew. Show on podcast one. Well we talked about drew's PTSD Delamarre the BLOWHARD ON MSNBC. Mr Barnacle Barnacle grabbing Barnacle Bill. He's a barnacle on my ass that guy and We will Get into some tweets as well first lifelock cybersecurity experts. They've seen a big uptick in hacking We all the people working at home not protected by the corporate software that scans for danger. It's important understand how cybercrime is affecting our lives in need to protect yourself. I don't know if you know this someone's identity stolen every two seconds. You could miss certain identity threats. If you're just monitoring credit good thing there's lifelock which detects a wide range of identity threats like your social security number for sale on the dark web protect yourself. It's two thousand and twenty people if They detect your info. They'll send you an alert. Let's protect yourself. Lifelock right Matt. 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That's by Oracle gives you a full picture of your business in real time. Get your free guide right now at nets dot com slash Adam. That's net sweet dot com slash Adam recorded live at Corolla one studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Dr Drew Pinski. You're listening to the atom and Dr drew show the I get it on. Got To get on a church again on mandate get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling front of their board. Certified didn't specialist going under escape. Oh where shall we start my friend? I never okay. So my kid's been hanging out here a bunch and we dug into some old videos remote past and on our way into like the first six months for three years of life kinds of videos full-blown ptsd from watching videos and in the videos. It's it's interesting the whole time Susan. They're saying like when you're eighteen we're going to we're going to let you know a terrible is what we're GONNA we're gonNA tell you because it's just incredible. This is unbelievable and Just seeing it we also video of her like right after delivery when she went to shock nearly died so we watched all this with Our kids and they were sort of stunned. Like somehow they thought you know. We're just to screw balls that you know fully formed just propelled them through their high school and college experience without much effort her without really killing ourselves as we but he give me give me full on. Ptsd to watch all that stuff again. Like I actually walk away or you say well let me posit. This thought true because I know You're dealing with the young INGRATES and I got the same thing going over here and you know it strikes me that the guys. I know who tell those stories where it's like my dad? He drank a little too much and he liked the ladies and and he gambled a little bit but Good man he worked hard for this family. And it's like I think my kids are going to be like well. My Dad was faith all he was basically sober. He didn't gamble. He worked hard and we lived in a palace but he was a Douche. I'm not sure you'll get even the worked hard a little bit of palace. I don't think you'll get that because I know it's going to be. He thought money was too important but he was a Douche right so it is interesting. The dynamic auto guys I know who tell me about their hardscrabble dad who drove a logging truck or something that you know like do that they wax poetic about how he loved the ladies and that kind of stuff and there was all that and then at the end they'd go but I respect him. You know I love that man or he. He's banned in my respect but he earned it right right versus the kids. You give everything to who have no context for it which is every second. I'm on this planet. I get a little bit closer to the dangers of giving people shit and it is dangerous and I've never of always known it. I've always known I guess I've always known the dangers of freebies. Because I grew up in a Freebie with a Freebie mom a Freebie House and I I knew how that was debilitating understood that I didn't really understand the white collar version of Freebie. I didn't understand the free college or the you know credit card that Daddy would pay for and you could go out and charge as much as you want. I didn't I somehow thought those people would feel differently about it because they were educated or they had or they're Mo- more evolved like I get the part where we were getting a free cheese in the food stamps and the welfare I get that and my mom was miserable and depressed. And you're living in a shitty house like that was kind of free. Flopping didn't I didn't know free flos immerse. I didn't know it would affect people on the upper end of the tax bracket as much. I didn't know about all the kids of the rich and powerful people that were going to. Od on painkillers. At Twenty Six. I I didn't know how debilitating it was that the upper at the top. And you know what I mean. Evidently Free Shit just affects everyone equally. It's just what was affecting us was sort of. My mom was pissed off that she couldn't use her food stamps to buy cat. Food will version. It's who the free shit is coming from right. And just think about how she felt about the tax payers and the government who created the resources for her to get the free ship. Well that's my point she. She couldn't use her food stamps to buy tack to buy cat food. And that was that outrageous or of course we all know that if you make your own money you can buy as much cat food as you want which is pissed off Piston. Associate this the people that are giving the by. She's pissed at the people that are enforcing the rules of no Catholic. You'd like well of course how. How could it go any other way? You know when I used to teach traffic school and people come in on a Sunday. There were angry at me right. There weren't angry themselves for speeding. They weren't angry at the COPPA game a ticket. There were sort of angry at me for ruining their Sunday right right. That's a sad in in very common wiring crying. Yes now it did. I don't know what the developmental sort of evolutionary purpose of that was but it doesn't seem to serve much use these days. What do you mean? My mom is flourishing. No so the guy at the Albertson's in north Hollywood is simply passing along the information that you can't use food stamps to buy cat food. Buy Your perfectly willing. You're perfectly capable or it's perfectly okay for you to purchase cat food. If in fact you'd like to use some of your own money for that but I know that's a bizarre thought right having your since her her sort of reality. Her construction of reality was that rich. People DON'T PAY TAXES THE TAXES. Come from the paid for the food stamps and stuff you know whenever you explore this well first off. They don't really break it down that far. The money comes from the government. That's the government that's how they just have money. They don't even think about that. They just go the government now. Rich people don't pay taxes in in her world. I think if you said well this guy is a dentist. And he does well for himself and he makes four hundred seventy one thousand dollars a year. Does that guy pay taxes. She'd go wall. He pays some but not as much as his receptionist. Pam Wright and go yeah. His receptionist makes thirty six thousand dollars a year and says she pays nine thousand dollars in taxes. And this guy makes four seventy five so he pays one hundred eighty eight thousand dollars a year so that hundred and eighty eight is more than nine thousand dollars and then my mom would go. Yeah but as a percentage from the percentage she's being a higher percentage and it's like my answer to that is always I don't care mine is. How much does each individual pay? I'm not so. Caught up on the percentage but fine so she would say his secretary pays a higher percentage which is unfair and she would say the guy who supplies the drugs in the syringes. The big company the big multinational company that builds who who manufactures the syringes in the drugs that he uses. They don't pay anything so that would be her breakdown right right and then she'd go give me some more. Free Shit. I'M GONNA go sleep like a baby. Well isn't that kind of how it works through. When did she let go the Free Shit? How long ago? I mean she's not still doing that as she well she. She got married to somebody who had a job so I think that's probably. When did he just position? All I'd be no never never had that discussion. Never never no I never. I never figured it out her her. Her Mom was sort of a communist. And I never I. There was no Epiphanies or awakenings are any movement in that world. Then I'm aware although we never get into that stuff so well so me and my PTSD. Which I already was kind of an from all the shit. I'm dealing with I've never needed comedy more for what that's worth. I'm getting deep into net flicks. You know stand up specials I I like talking to you Cigarette it just it. Just I don't know man. It seems like a really important cultural input right now while I'm GonNa tell you I'm GonNa go do comedy and I'll tell you a few of those. Hey Gary we might be able to find a Con Hit Chris up and ask them if how we're doing in the Adam Karol of unprepared Snippets will get into that second. I I'll tell you about Tommy John over the next few weeks. We're all going to spend a lot of time at home. Oh yeah that means comfortable lounge wear and underwear Tommy. 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Stand up at the laugh factory Coming up this Friday which Ob this Friday as you hear this. It'll it'll will pass but they're going to stream it so I'm just doing stand up in front of four people. I guess and in the middle of the afternoon but I am going to stand up and they're going to. They're going to stream that I would say people that. Have podcast probably going to be better equipped to doing standup in that setting than the average comedian Gary Tell Chris How how many new ones? What new ones do we do a have and maybe we'll play one of those On the show. So you know I'd been going out and doing stand up and then doing Adam curle is unprepared and we pull the pingpong balls out and we've been rolling tape on it so when I been going out around. The country plane shows We just taken these little ping pong balls in each ping pong ball represents a vignette to speak and whacking them up and putting them up on the youtube page and They're Kinda interesting because their improvised bits in real time based on what's on the Ping Pong Ball but there's a lot of interesting things that can be found there and that sort of real time experiment a lot of directions to go that you wouldn't have formerly thought of when the Ping Pong ball was I read and it's also kind of a challenge if you're listening at home or watching at home when you hear what's on the Ping Pong Ball. What direction would you go? Well it's interesting that you know it's the difference between somebody saying something funny and you having a direction that triggers some thoughts in all your Ardent idea around just a word even and that gets you moving interest right. It's it's much harder to you. How would you even start ms be funny? Oh now I can't. I can't do that but you can. If you throw out almost any word I can I can do. It had had a weird one. A one you'd probably joy we played it on. She asked Gary can look it up. But we had Abortion and I laughed so you try to think. Well you just heard abortion. How do you? How do you make this thing funny? Whether what's your angle on abortion you have to find an angle now. You could politicize it. You could be a for it or against it or whatever it is but that's not really that funny right and then you could talk about an abortion story or some version of it but it's still not funny a what is what would be your angle like what would be your an abortion angle abortion funny in real time up on stage and We'll find it. We'll it Gary will find it. Get it from Chris and played for So other things to To discuss we're talking yesterday about that. Msnb she Thing where the guy explained that this is not the country. Whatever what what does he think he's saying and there's something going on where people are now falling in love with grandiose empty calorie blow blow heart. `ISMs that really make no sense to anybody at any time but yet feel very satisfying to have. We been going down that road for a long time but go yes. Yeah the only difference. Is that when you said the school to prison pipeline thousands of people? How do you see as a train goes from the school to the prison right? But why is this guy on? Tv what is he saying? What do we? Here's what I'm saying. What do we need his fucking input on like I went? Thanks I watched an elderly person. Die through a tablet will never be the same. Like what is that blow. Hardwood we that fuck blowhard for I. I have nothing. There's nothing coming out of his mouth biological. Yeah it's to the point where I don't know what he's saying and this is. Why would be a horrible? This is why would be horrible. Anchoring THE MSNBC show. I'd be like. Hey Bob I don't know what the fuck you just said. What's that mean. Things are never gonNA. This is not the country. We b-actor moving. That'd be horrible. That'd be a good Acre but well horrible that I wouldn't last but I wouldn't I wouldn't be doing making grunting noises I don't know what you're saying. Are you saying the highest thing? Nothing right he's feeling something that he's trying to express through this statement of nonsense. So what is the feeling? He's having what is he experiencing that he's trying to put into words. What would what is his motivation? What's going on his head? I don't see my thing is it's just pure grandiosity. Well but what do you see but think about it because I see something there? I see something there if I if I were to tell him what I see. He would deny it vehemently. Well now Gary. We have to listen to Barnacle bill we gotTA LISTEN TO BARNACLE BILL FROM MSNBC right to hear his final statement and how how very powerful. It just doesn't mean anything. Sorry guys we're heavy. Tst You can tell. She has ptsd told me a story about the night before watching a man die. Seventy four seventy five years of age taught the father of a family. The family was watching him as he faded into death. They will watching him on an IPAD. So this is dying alone in America and sadly I think one of the EPA tasks for this particular period of time we're going through is a lot of people now think that this is no longer the country once thought it was. It's sad. Okay I have no fucking idea what imbeciles talking about or I he his guy what he must be in academics. But I it is. Oh my God is really rough that people get sick and we have to keep them isolated when they died that is a fact and he is a drama queen. Alum could you little fucking dog? He likes drama. He's told a story and and that's happening out there and it is sad that is so so then he takes that sadness goes. I've decided I hate this country and I hate what it's become in a I'm willing to unravel civilization to make that point. I'm willing to bring things down completely to push that point home so let me go here. I go. This is a disaster. This country has no this country is. He's saying that we're we're collapsing civilization and he is gleeful. Think about that Lee. He's expressing glee and sadness because he was already said. I don't know you think there was glee in there. I think the light maybe delights. The better word elegant that this is a this round. What are these Old Fox on TV? Four what what is he doing? Why Co anchoring anything he should fucking anchor at tuna ship Barnacle. Bill what Gary. What does that Guy Do? Who is that guy? He's a he's an American Print print and broadcast journalists started in Boston and he's basically just sort of been a political commentator on various shows for a long time morning. Joe Hardball with Chris Matthews. All so there's your fun again. There's a controversy in the eighties. Where yeah looks like in the Oh in the late nineties where he was caught lifting. He wrote an article Of Eighty humorous about rations and it turned out they were all lifted from George Carlin's book and he went on to deny it and then a few months later they someone found a Tv Interview that he did where he was holding the book He'd never owned it so know. That guy must have a lot of degrees in a lot of education. Because you have to have that in order for us not to know what the fuck you're talking about. Hey Gary and Matt did you guys understand anything. He was saying. It's sad what what he meant. What did he mean he meant it? Sad that was all I got from it. No it may mean that we're not in the country. We thought we were in. I have no idea why I have a microphone. So fucking idiot. He must have a bunch of fucking degrees. They gotta figure out where he went to college. Anyway that Tony Dodson word that guy what he meant by this? Isn't the country. Thought I mean I. I certainly can't speak to what he's saying. I feel like if anything he is just again like Gary sinise added everybody is is all being warranty like this and maybe he expected the system to like take care about in a way where we could still live our lives. I mean I I don't fucking know. He's doom and gloom blowhard. It doesn't look like he's got extensive degrees. You went to Boston University and then was a volunteer in Robert Kennedy's presidential campaign. And it just seems like he's been very well ensconced in that sort of circle for a long long time but once you get to age seventy five. Shouldn't you have a fucking thought you have something it's like? It's just great things like I said to somebody somebody sent me. I mean it must be amazing to just have no thoughts but literally just feelings and then you become like the crazy bitch in the airplane. Where when the Asian? I hope that guy's been claimed cancer by now when the Asian doctor gets pulled off of the airplane. You Yell Out Loud. What's going on now. You're four seats away from this. Fuck stick Asian Doctor. Guy On the airplane yet. Saw The guy in the windbreaker that said. Tsa ON IT. Asking him to get up and get out of the airplane hundred forty four times and eventually the guy picked him up and carried them out of the airplane and then you hero check yelled what's going on. Don't you know what's going on? I don't get who you are. This guy's like she. He died it in with a with a tablet in the nurse. Yeah it's got to cut the corona virus there. Pops that's how it works. It must be interest- how do you get to that age and have no fucking thoughts in your head? So what happened is is somebody somebody sent me a tweet and all. I will illustrate this perfectly drew. I let me hit Manscaping it's testicular. Cancer Awareness Month. Did you know that drew up? 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Siren goes off in a city of one hundred thousand. Everyone takes cover in their basements and tornado ripped through town. No deaths five injuries reported. Was it wrong for everyone to take cover? Thanks retarded hero. Did taking cover minimize casualties? Thank you again or did hero for these important questions. My question for retarded hero Spencer is. How many months do they have to stay in their in their basement? That's funny retarded here are Scott says for as long as there's a chance of Tornado. Okay okay thank you guys. I hope you run nothing and make no decisions. That is my because I would feel bad for everyone. You presided over yes. It's a good idea to get in the basement when the tornado is blowing through town. Let me write that down. Thank you by the way idiots. Stop repeating super obvious things. Too Smart people it's insulting. You know what I'm saying drew. Yeah I know it is like I get a lot of that. Hey of five hundred. People dead in In California you don't think that's the lot tell that to the families of Fuck off fucking idiots. Don't prefer fucking stupid. You're fucking assholes. Jesus Christ it's fucking insulting. Who Do you think you're talking to fucking grandfather clock? I'm not dumb the fucking idiot fucking hero retards shut up God. It's it's fucking insulting but really is it is but it's the it's the me it's the it's the means of communication of the day. This is the virtue signal right. No one said it was a bad idea to go into a shelter until the tornado blows through town. Nobody said that was a bad idea. One hundred percent of human beings agree on that yes now. We have to decide when it's safe to come out of the basement and then hero number two says when they're no more tornadoes okay. Do you guys have kids like really? Do you talk. Do you have children and what happens? You impart talk to them. Like you're talking to me. The dumbest fucking kids on the planet out of the kids were school every adults. Oh my God yes. Of course yes you must go into shelter and then yes. You must decide when it's safe to come out but if you wait until there's no danger zero percent danger of tornadoes and you could be living in your basement for months or years so now. It's time for the adults to make decisions. Heroes Okay. Is there part of this? That I'm missing and then drew. Why do so? Many people have difficulty with basic logic. Well because we all have cognitive dissonance we all sort of want to confirm our own points of view so we're just automatically on our own echo chamber with whatever comes at us and as you pointed out many many times the feelings or whatever buddy is listening to rather than analyzing the logic. So the guy saying America's sad it's not the country new Yes yes lot of head nodding that we eat. Oh yes it's sad. It's sad I get you as opposed to listening to what his words were. What is point. Exactly what had fresh basil is as good as the guy who's telling you to stay in the basement tell. Tornadoes have been abolished by God. I don't know what the Fuck You idiots they're talking about but please consider I'm not a fucking idiot. You have to factor that in. I know you're usually you're talking. You're normally talk your pussy friends about this shit all day. You GotTa talk a fucking idiot. Usually Virtue Signal and the story is E B. If you're if you're saying hey I'm virtuous listen to me and say something outrageously virtuous signaling ever ever discuss. Now what am I going to say next? How am I gonNA come up with a good one? Also let's really break down your math. What do you think I? What do you think I like death? Yeah Yeah you're killing people. You're killing people. Can YOU ACCURATE? Racist adults are so fucking disappointing. I had no idea that adults are going to be that fucking stupid. You've changed raise. You've change change change all right. Let me hit lifelock cybersecurity. Experts have seen a fifteen to twenty percent increase in hacking working at home. You know why not. Yeah you're you're using a software corporate software You need to protect yourself and Of course you need lifelock important understand how cybercrime is affecting our lives identity. Theft is another serious issue. Someone's identity is stolen every two seconds you could miss out on certain identity. Brad's if you're only monitoring your credit good thing the lifelock which detects a wide range of identity threats like your social security number for sale on the dark web if they detect your info is out there and they will send you an alert so protect yourself with lifelock right matt. No one can prevent all identity theft or monitor all transactions at all businesses lifelock and. See threats that you might miss on your own join now and save at the twenty five percent off your first year call one eight hundred lifelock or lifelock dot Com Promo Code Adam. That's Promo Code. Adamant LIFELOCK DOT COM for up to twenty five percent off right you can go ahead and Kurla Dot com and find out you know what what we got going over there. You can Go to chassis to ashes in Hawaii so we spell it and get all our movies up in there and You can go to annum. Corolla DOT COM or YouTube dot com slash annum crawl. We're going to play a couple unprepared clip for you In our next episodes listen to the next episode drew. What do you got all Dr Dot Com and instead of knocking? Tv Dr Do that. Tv Her last call. So till next. I'm an overt act. Mahala this Corolla digital.

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