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For November's Election, Pinellas County Is One Of The Largest Swing Counties At Play
"Pinellas County is unique in a lot of ways but here's one you might not know it's off for the winner and every presidential election since nineteen eighty except for the disputed election of two thousand four years ago Donald Trump won the county by about five thousand votes. Well, Florida matters, I'm Bradley George. That's why the campaigns of Joe Biden and Donald Trump are paying close attention to Pinellas County this year and the county is a microcosm of how the u.s. Is dealing with coronavirus pandemic and its economic aftermath to talk about that joining us via Zoom archives our health news reporter Phil Gail with his recent story with Margo snipe at the Tampa Bay times at how the pandemic could affect how the county swings this year. Also joining us is tarah Newsome. She's director of the center for civic learning and Community engagement at st. Petersburg College. Welcome to both of them. Thank you for having us feel share with you. What made you and Marco sniper the X want to focus on an LS for this this piece? Sure. Well with election as in Florida B news is the biggest swing state and we were looking for places in Florida that had voted in for Obama back in in the last two elections of 2012 and 2008. But then in 2016 voted in President Trump and we thought that may show places where there's a you know, there is a swing and it was only a handful counties in Florida that have done that Saint Lucie County or on the Atlantic coast was one Monroe County was another in a small County up on the Panhandle and that was it was four counties out of 67,000 voted for Obama then voted for Trump. So that helps us narrow narrow down and of those counties actually the largest would be Pinellas which is a population as you know, nearly a million people. So terrible on that. Can you break down for us the political makeup of Pinellas and why it makes it such a a strong indicator in presidential elections. Well as you as you open Bradley the historic nature of Ellis County and as a predictor of presidential election outcomes is not only paid attention to state politicos, but also by the nation, but when you look at the back order demographic in Pinellas County, you see a very even number of Republicans to Democrats no party affiliate and that kind of moderation of voter breakdown evens out with voting outcomes and people who live in or near Pinellas know that the geography of the county also shows the the political affinities in the northern part of the county places like Palm Harbor Republican candidates tend to do well while in the South you have Saint Petersburg the County's biggest city and arguably the most liberal Squad in the county are there racial or economic factors in parts of the country that are also closed to how its votes. Well, certainly when you look at the way that our county has developed in and you flagged it allowing for the more more northern part of our County home. Developed and be more affluent. It leans more Republican. Whereas we have our southern part of our County having a more democratic contingency. So you really can see the consequences of how our community was developed and and the planning of our community and how it plays out systemically over Generations in our voting outcomes fill in your story you reported that according to recent surveys. The coronavirus pandemic is less of a concern for republicans and independent voters in Pinellas County and in Florida in general, why is that Yeah, I mean we had a feeling about that going in but when the numbers the Kaiser Family Foundation and which is sort of the publisher of cage and did a survey and they found that pack rat voters in Florida or seven times more likely to say the coronavirus was the most important issue in the election than Republicans. We were too shocked to his that big a difference cuz obviously the coronavirus doesn't care if you're a Democrat or Republican you're going to get sick one way or the other is going to get sick and it doesn't matter but you know, we can speculate that. You know Republicans are more likely to believe the President Trump when he's saying, you know that he believes that we're rounding the curve on coronavirus in that we're close to a vaccine and it's not as bad as some people make it out to be the other day said, you know for most young people if not really an issue is only an issue for older people, which allow the facts really buy that Democrats are typically seen him. Which is real close to them and they're much more likely to say know the coronavirus which is out of control once-in-a-century pandemic has now killed two hundred thousand Americans and over fourteen thousand people in South Florida and the numbers continue to climb. There's no bigger issue. Obviously Republicans say, they're good sisters the economy which obviously has been impacted by the coronavirus but Democrats will say hey, if you don't get the coin virus taking care of and people keep dying. We can't fix the account. So I think that has a lot to do with do we believe the Trump Administration that they've won have a handle on the virus and to that they've done a very good job in helping the public health get through this crisis Democrats. Don't really believe that the most part they believe there was still in a crisis month. So we're taping the show on Friday afternoon and this comes on the heels of President Trump holding a rally in Jacksonville on Thursday night where he praised Governor Ron DeSantis is correct. Response and just this afternoon on Friday. We're learning that the governor DeSantis Has Lifted the remaining restrictions on restaurants and other businesses in terms of their operating capacity and we should also mention that he made that announcement in st. Petersburg. So Phil is is is that something that you're looking at this ideological political split in coronavirus off an issue reopening the state accelerating that reopening is that something that could ultimately be favorable for republicans and for President Trump Republicans certainly bulbs, certainly the Trump campaign team believes that if we can appear like the country has open that can show that it can appear that we've gotten past the coronavirus and that, you know, we're open for business and that often feels like we're back to February or back to January before the pandemic it then people may be in a better mood to re-elect the incumbent. So a lot of people are really skeptical. Yep. We really taking these steps for public health reasons or are we reopening so much now because of to create this appearance that we've gotten past the coronavirus a lot of scientists say that the issue is still out there that people still need to take precautions that people shouldn't be going to Gatherings with hundreds and hundreds of people that we still need to take precautions because the virus hasn't gone away. So the question people have to really ask themselves. Is it just a coincidence that things are really reopening here just as people are now voting or is it really the the public health that that's why things are opening, you know, you can imagine people can have them to use on this Sarah. What's your view on that? Well, I wanted to make sure that we pay attention to the fact that Pinellas County's at the mouth of the I-4 Corridor and that becomes important not only because of its connection to that whole stretch of Voters across the band of our state but it makes a difference because it's how people come in and out of our area and that becomes very much important when you think about the midwestern in fact That happens and I-4 Corridor and I think that's going to become relevant to what bill is talking about about the why people will vote the way that they do. Will they be incentivised by this reopening or will they have some Midwestern kind of like the abilities and be able to see through some of the political nature of these decisions as it relates to Cove it and so that kind of moderation is what we see in Pinellas County. That's why we see an even number of Republicans to Democrats to no party affiliate. There is this constant influx of other communities that come to the State of Florida usually from a Midwestern kind of slant and that's those sensibilities. I think come through and voters fill your story showed that about 25% of Pinellas voters are age sixty-five or older you suggest that this group may be more affected by the coronavirus pandemic than others. Of course, the virus does have more of an effect on older people as you talk to voters for this piece where there are other particularly pandemic related concerns that came out among this group of Voters. Well, it's interesting that one you would yes believe that elderly people are going to be more affected because they've been told to sort of shudder in place and have been told even as things go open that it's your best interest to stay away from others, you know, don't go visit the grandkids don't go visit the relative don't hang out with your neighbors, but actually in a number of surveys that have come out over the last several weeks. I'm really split between how senior co-captain Florida in terms of Trump versus buying it. So that's what I like too. It's really really right now barely even and it's not short right now how much the cash buyers will impact elderly versatile impact younger age groups Tara, you know, I think that covid-19 Americans their hair on the back of their necks on health care and I think they're actually paying more attention to issues on Healthcare in the selection. And so although covid-19 Dem. Beyond the pandemic. Absolutely. The president came out with his America First Health Plan or held Vision. It should be more where he came out with a Litany of wage and health ideas that he said his plan was to you know, make health care more affordable and give people more choices and more freedom. But I people say by coming out with that it basically emphasize the fact that presidents number one priority back four years ago was that he was going to repeal and replace Obamacare which has not happened even though he had a republican-controlled House and Senate for years. He told voters that was going to be his number one priority that he would be doing on day one would be repealing and replacing Obamacare. He has not done that he had said though that because he has repealed the individual mandate part of bomber care that basically makes Obamacare Mill and void which of course not accurate because wage Over twenty million Americans have gotten health care and still have Healthcare the Obamacare many of them to the expansion of Medicaid which is not happen in Florida, but it's happened in 38 others saves your bomber care marketplaces, which have helped millions of people get government-subsidized Healthcare. So Obamacare still is is there is still the law of the land off. The question would be is with President Trump saying I've got rid of Obamacare, even though the facts state that that's not true. Well people believe the president or will people be looking at the facts to say you bought this we get rid of Obamacare you haven't done that. So the president has the other thing he came out with yesterday was he plans to send a $200 discount card off all Medicare enrollees to help them better afford their prescription drugs and where the billions of dollars without would come from has not been helpful. And then the fact that the president is doing this just wage. As people are filling out their absentee ballots certainly raises. The question of is this a last-ditch election effort to try to get elderly to vote form or is this really his policy wage raises questions that he's currently doing a lot on Healthcare trying to do a lot of Health Care Now when people will say where was this last year year before that or the year before that? They had to Phil's point off the disingenuous nature of this. All in one has to look at is the Supreme Court and the continuing case before The Supreme Court to dismantle Obamacare, which the president is continuing to support but the unfortunate part is that we need to make sure our seniors understand that so that they can see through this kind of policy. Speaking of drug prices Governor Ron DeSantis had this proposal to import medicines from Canada, and that's something that the president has touted. Also you're listening to Florida matters. I'm Bradley Georgia, and today we're talking about Pinellas County's role in the 2020 presidential election with Kaiser health news reporter Phil Gail wits and st. Petersburg college professor Tara Newsome. We'll take a short break here and resume our conversation in just a moment. This is Florida matters on wusf 89.7. I'm Bradley George. We're talking about how the covid-19 kemik could be a deciding factor in this election for many voters in Pinellas County with reporter Phil gallwitz of Kaiser health news and st. Petersburg college professor Tara Newsome. I want to go back to the economy for a minute unemployment in Florida right now is 11.8% that's higher than the rate in Pinellas. It's 9.8% That's still a very large number but I'll start with you on this is local employment the local economy going to be a factor for undecided voters in Pinellas. Well, I'm not just a director of the center for civic learning at st. Pete College. I'm a faculty member there and one of the things that we're seeing with our students right now is that the lack of the ability and transparency to access unemployment compensation has been life changing and so Thursday, we're not only were they not only that able to access unemployment compensation this illusory idea that the economy is is moving forward is really not true and we have students that are hurting students that are not having access to affordable housing to sustainable jobs and are losing really that pipeline to posterity and so I think That in our little home of st. Petersburg, Florida. We certainly see that the unemployment issue is one of the most pivotal to voting in this election Phil thoughts on that every election. It's it's it's always the economy, you know, the economy stupid is obviously goes back to James Carville and electing President Clinton in ninety-two and I can't think of an election since then that the economy hasn't been a huge issue. And even though we have a kind of virus as a twin issue certainly the economy and having millions of people out of work now is gotta be something that's Weighing on people and and whether or not you still have a job or whether you're working less or whether now you have more fears of losing the job now certainly be waiting on people and typically when people fear that I'm not going to be able to find a job or they fear they may lose a job certainly doesn't help any incumbent and trying to win re-election. Taro go back to you Pinellas County isn't the only part of the state or the country that seeing a growth and you talked a little bit about this at the beginning of our interview of Voters who have registered as independent sources took them here in Florida NPA is no party affiliation when you look demographically among age or other factors in Pinellas and across the state. How do how to empty a voter's breakdown? No, pretty Affiliates actually run the gamut of the generational scope and I think that's really in part because what we're seeing especially in areas like Tampa Bay that we have, you know a good access to what used to be the same times. Now the Tampa Bay Times believe it or not. I think the really Hardy access to legitimate media sources that help us understand the issues educate voters and allow them to be more issue-oriented which means they Dia line from a party Alliance. So when you have that D alignment and you become a no party affiliate, it really isn't necessarily off just one generational demographic. It runs the gamut and I think that's encouraging for voters Phil. Did you encounter many voters as you were reporting your story? Yeah, absolutely with my colleague at the Tampa Bay times. I guess what we found basically was most people have their votes locked in the people who are you know, who are Democrats and who voted for Hillary Clinton the last election well more than nine out of ten of them, you know are sticking with Democrats and planning to provide in and those people who voted for Trump in 2016. Well over ninety percent of them plan to vote for president again, what we found is even though Pinellas is a swing County. There are very few swing voters and that that's the challenge we're talking about since in the single digits long. So trying to find that three four five people out of a hundred who really slick between verses that most people are internship very protective over Trump. If you're a Democrat, you can evoke provided it was awful hard to find people who had voted for Trump to say yes, I voted for Trump, but right now either I'm definitely vote for Biden or it was hard to find people who would even question or even raging. Outs I mean we did find a couple of people but it was really hard to find Trump voters in 2016 who would acknowledge and say particularly who would say on the record that they have doubts about it or question that they made a mistake in voting for the president back then and and it's question if they will vote for him again limited field of Voters for either Canada either sides of to persuade here Tara. How are you? Seeing that play out from your perspective? Well, I think that the idea that the election has been baked in is a common one Among Us that follow the election and I think that although Kenosha County at least has a roughly even amount of no party affiliate voters as they do Democrats and Republicans. I think what feels trying to say is of those two hundred thousand that are no party affiliate. They actually swing one way or the other way and what I'm seeing at least on the college campuses is that that's actually really true and although we want to look at covid-19. Existing prior to Covent that are just become much more to use the same word Amplified, you know, if you didn't have access to the economy before it's even worse. If you didn't have access to education before it's even worse. If you were part of the technological desert and didn't have high speed internet that's even worse now and so what I'm really seeing is that students although I want to think that covid-19 other factors might contribute to some critical they you know, how they vote they're coming into the election cycle with the baked in ideas that they had prior to as far as you mentioned Pinellas is part of the I-4 Corridor that scene traditionally is where most of the Swing voters in Florida are but why are the other counties in the Tampa Bay Region and even broader than that on along the I-4 Corridor don't have that same kind of Swing nature that age that Pinellas does I think it has a lot to do with generational partisanship. Yes, okay and state economies economies that are very static and the generational party Allegiance is very wage. Practiced in Pinellas County as the mouth of that. I forequarter. We have a lot more changes in our population. We talked earlier about the influx of individuals coming into Pinellas County and all them. We are a dense dense County meaning we don't have the influx of population, you know, five hundred thousand because we're packed in here. We do have an influx of ideas and and thinking and so that influx keeps us from going either staying our or stain D. Like Hillsborough County is predominantly Democrat. It's predominately Democrat and has been for decades and part of that has a lot to do with its economy its Workforce. Whereas Pasco County is being more Republican that has that goes back generations and that has a lot to do with wealth accumulation and the older demographic that lives there Pinellas County went from being an older County to being a young County. We're an educated thoughtful County. And so I think that that makes us a little unique in the fact that at times when we're more candidate centered and we're issue centered. We might switch our Allegiance wage. It's very telling that we went from voting for President Obama to then voting for President Trump. Although the razor-thin margin in Pinellas County had a lot to do with Jill Stein and libertarian and you know, it also had a lot to do with wanting change that our economy has stabilized under Obama and individuals were being thoughtful and wanting to take a risk and these other counties that surround Pinellas and a knife Corridor. They're they're much more committed to their partisan generational Viewpoint. They'll what are your thoughts on this? Yeah, I agree exactly what you just said it. Also as you mentioned Pinellas County mirrored the State of Florida and at the 2016 election Trump one by law was a little bit under 1% of the vote. So it was really now so we talked about only a Hamp hit maybe five six seven per-cent of Voters in the county or swinging that makes the difference. So because it's such a razor-thin margin the election really turns to turn out, you know, a tiny change in turnout can have a you know, a to 3% change in turnout will really make a difference, you know, will the African American population turn out which dropped us during the Obama elections African American turnout was at record highs. It was still very high off Hillary Clinton, but just not as high that little difference adds as you mentioned to the third party candidates taking one and 2% of the vote really swung the election. So, yep. So, I mean that that didn't margin really makes a difference voter turnout will be huge and you know, it's a yeah, I agree. It's the others just like, you know Hillsborough County as well. As long as the old account e on the I-4 Corridor if you look over the last Thirty or forty years, they are among Hampshire counties that have swamp while Pinellas County has swung maybe more Hillsborough New Jersey shows you on this I-4 Corridor we have as well as Flagler County Florida are in that number of counties around the country that have basically picked the right winner more than most countries across the country. Are you mentioned Jill Stein the Green Party candidate in 2016. Also Gary Johnson who was the libertarian candidate that year polling so far shows that third-party candidates aren't getting the level of support that they got four years ago. So subtracting third-party support when you look at a a Biden versus Trump race in 2020 in Pinellas County as a million thoughts. Voters are already casting their ballots as we head toward election day, which which candidate do you think has has the advantage going into the final stretch? I don't think we should ever discount third-party candidates in a sense of how they impact the election meaning. You know, Jill Stein was less than 1% I think it was in Pinellas County was like .93% and Gary Johnson was somewhere beneath 2% and and certainly the deferral between Trump and Clinton that would have made up the difference but as it relates to third-party candidates this election, I think that people have learned a lesson, especially Floridians, you know, we saw most of us have lived through two thousand when Bush V Gore occurred in Ralph Nader threw a wrench into the election with his green party candidacy and I think that many Floridians were a little burned by the third parties in the last election and and possibly regret their vote not because of the issues aren't important, but because how it landed the presidency and what the outcome of that presidency is meant if I haven't heard once I've heard at least birth Two or three times. Oh, I I wasn't sure about Trump. I wasn't sure about Hillary Clinton. So I put my put my vote into a third-party candidate. I wish I hadn't done that. I don't think Floridians are going to make that mistake again. I think this time you're going to see people making their religions and I think it's going to be more value-based than we think and when I say more value-based and I think I think in the 2016 election, the economy was strong we had stability pact or willing to take a risk with Donald Trump. I think that we do not have that same stability. I think people are voting their values now more than the economy not to say the economy is an important, but I think that those individuals that were going to go off with a third-party candidate they're going to go ahead and vote their value and and pick one of the two that matches usually the most intimate parts of our lives. Our religion are social views, and and I think it would be it would not behoove me to make a prediction on that account. But I do think that you need to be looking at the exit polls and what people talk about why they voted I think that's going to be really telling it'll tell us about The next election as well because it could be that we're going through a critical re-election right now and which people are realigning their political allegiance not by the parties as we once knew them but as what the parties are becoming that star Newsome, she's director of the center for civic learning and Community engagement at st. Petersburg College. We also heard from Kaiser health news reporter Phil Gail. What's his recent story with Margo snipe at the Tampa Bay Times looked at how the pandemic could affect Pinellas County in the 2020 presidential election. Thanks to both of you for joining us today. Thank you for having us and after our conversation tar Newsome had some other thoughts. She wanted to share about Pinellas County voters one of the important factors that we need to consider this election even more so than Pinellas County being a purple car or a purple state is the actual impact of women in our County. There are 4.2% more women in Pinellas County than men and when you contextualize those numbers with the eminent confirmation hearing em, Amy Coney Barrett and what her confirmation May mean to deregulation Health Care access and even specifically women Reproductive Rights. We need to watch turn out numbers of women even more than party turn off, see if women increase voter turnout in 2020 by only even a few percentage points. They can absolutely determine the outcome of this election. So we need to be considering not only young women come out, but how many republican women or how many Democratic women turn out and some interesting factors that we should consider as Kamala Harris who's exciting the African American Community Reproductive Rights and how religion plays a role in public policy. These kind of issues can have a dramatic effect on women actually coming out to vote that was st. Petersburg college professor. Tarah Newsome cheese show was produced by Donora Prevost if you missed part of the conversation or want to listen again, you can find it at wusf news. Org on Bradley George. Thanks for listening to Florida matters. Hope you'll join us again next song.
As Election Day Nears, Thoughts From A First-Time Voter And An Update On Early Voting
"Welcome to Florida matters. I'm Bradley George. So here we are a week from tonight voting in the 2020 election. She come to an end notice. I didn't call it election day due to the pandemic related Surge and early voting and mail-in ballots. It's been more like election season election coverage has not familiar ring to it pulls the horse race campaign. Gossip attack ads who's a boost down who has momentum what's narrative this year at wusf we tried to do something different. We wanted to put Gordon thousand people the voters at the center of our election stories and to do that. We teamed up with our colleagues at wmfe in Orlando and a national project called America Amplified and tonight. I'm here from one of those voters. We met this year Dwyane. Ron sharp is a student at Saint Petersburg College and he grew up in Jamaica. He recently became an American citizen. So this is his first election dead. And since we're in the middle of a pandemic I spoke with him via Zone. Dwayne right. I'm going to start with you mentioned. You're a student at at SBC. You're a first-time voter. Tell us a little bit more about yourself. And what's important to you. I again first-time voter. This is going to be a selection of our participate in and by extension pay the most attention to the most in-depth attention to I've been in the country for a for a few years and while I've often seen the political platforms of both parties. I've never taken a deeper look. So where where did you move to the US from Jamaica? And you said still some things that about the political process or about the political parties and their platforms that are that are unclear to you. Is there anything in particular that that you still have questions about at this point? Why does it have to be such an us-versus-them? That doesn't my main thing my main my main overall question. My umbrella question is why is it a host versus them when I'm taking a look at it from an outside dog? No point. It's the Dems vs. The Republicans and it seems like the most affected party is the American people. So I'm hoping to get a better understanding as to why that's why is it I guess it's just a two party system. And then how can we as Americans? I can say that now, how can we as Americans kind of hold our leaders more accountable regardless of what party you're affiliated with what issues specifically are important to you in this election race issues in the equality issues that we've been facing especially recently with the education as well because I've noticed I have friends that are teachers and they tell me every so often or I'll see on the news where a budget is getting caught or they have to do more with less resources and that kind of want to understand why that is why are we cutting programs such as education or I think one of the programs up to be darned was discussed is Planned Parenthood and I'm trying to understand why because that's fans more than wage. An issue that seems to be the biggest talking point. So you're you're a new citizen of the US. This is your first time voting. What is the process been like for you just in terms of getting registered and and getting the all the information that you need to make a choice and the process was fairly simple after the ceremony. I was registered right there. I was given information on where to go. I was giving the website links to go and see platforms and valid information. I I also get a large majority of information from the people I associate with my friends or my colleagues the issues that affect them I took a look at those as well to kind of see what their side is versus what the the opposing side. Is it still all very new to me. It's a whole new nothing be corny, but it's a whole new world for me as far as public schools. So I'm still getting my feet wet. I've got a I'm just trying to take it all in right now to see how best I can understand it and figure out where to place my votes to make sure that not just dead. Me but my community served. So at the top of the ballot for everyone this year is the presidential election. Have you decided who you're going to vote for I have I don't know that my choice was made based on all of their politics just because on either side I've seen something where for example Joe Biden's past decisions and policies of being brought up and Trump's Behavior overall has been brought up and taking a look at both of those. I kind of already made my decision in my head as to where I'm leaning towards voting. So can I ask who you're you're going to vote for? Absolutely. Mr. Biden. Have you had a chance yet Dwayne to look at you kind of look at the ballot and look at the other races and and make choices about those. I have not taken any way. I look at it. I've seen the presidential ballot Us in the VP ballot. I took a glance at the ballot for the area of voting in Largo, but I did not spend any great job. Time analyzing it now Dwayne. Where are you getting information for making your voting decision particularly for some of these facts down ballot races that maybe aren't getting as much attention as as the presidential race speaking to more politically inclined friends who are more plugged in than I am because I do not I make it a point to not follow politics very closely. But speaking to my friends Ill give me gems of information. They'll tell me what has happened what hasn't happened who hasn't been unnecessary performing but what areas are under more scrutiny. It's been a minute as well since I've spoken to them because as we're getting closer they are getting more heavily involved so they have been kind of radio silent. Do you follow the news regularly do I I listen to the news in the morning in the morning I do when I get some down time at work. I'll try to to read a few articles on line to see if I'm missing anything. And I usually don't get very far because the phone rings or someone sends me an email. I try to to pay it as much attention as I can. Unfortunately. It's just not very much. So it sounds like your friends are pretty low end of plugged into politically with what's going on. Would you say that's true of most of your SBC classmates or they really paying attention to politics this year not all of them most of the students that I see how long of your mix you have the table being heavily politically leaning some who are more aloof and some who just don't care for it. Either way not everyone is going to vote. I have professors who always tell me make sure you'll make sure you tell your friends to vote and then I hear I hear students say I'm not going to vote. It doesn't make any sense of my voice doesn't matter and then I think to myself and my head how many times has that been said how many hundreds of thousands of millions of time across the country has often been said and then no changes made and that poor them solidifies your reasoning as to this is why vote because it doesn't make sense. And I mentioned that's going to hit you in a different way, right? Because you're you're in U citizen, right? And this is dead. This is one of the fundamental rights of being an American is being able to to have that voice in decision-making being cast a ballot. So what what do you say to somebody who says my my vote doesn't matter. I look at them ask them. What's the matter with them and then try to try to see where they're at. If it's a case where I can at least persuade them with the logic of an extra voices and extra voice. I just say, okay. No problem. And then I go on about my day. There's no need for me to try to convince them to do something. They just don't want to do the way we got a question. Somebody was curious about maybe some of the information that getting either that you're seeing or maybe through your friends and they're they want to know if you're familiar with some of the disinformation that was prevalent in the in the presidential election in 2016. And are you worried at all about trusting what what you see for yourself or hear from your friends that it's true and then it's not just information or fake news relatively concerned with the yes, just because there is two years. To every story and most of this information now I take with a grain of salt and ask different groups of friends to see if they are familiar with the information as it was just given to me or if they know something different about the same thoughts. But I am I am aware that there has been great this this information being passed out over the last few years. So I'm not thinking I said, I don't take a headline and then run with it. I take it. I look at it off. I tried to make sure that before I repeat. This is someone is it accurate and in that I'll either try to look it up online. If I if I can or I'll ask someone I know that is more involved politically on Mike. Hey, is this accurate before I go and mention it to another another colleague or another classmate? Have you decided how you're going to vote? Or have you have you requested a mail-in ballot or you going to go vote early or are you going to vote on on the day? I'm going to go and vote early. I want it. I I made the decision to go in and vote just because off selection. And even though we are in some troubling times here with covid-19. I still wanted at least my first voting experience to be the full thing where I go in life. I get in the booth and I understand that might not be all that why is because of what's going on in the world right now, but I wanted my first voting experience to be a proper voting experience. Have you heard have you heard anything from the the Biden campaign or if the Trump campaign that specifically speaks to you as a as a Jamaican American or is a caribbean-american particular in that regard know what speeds to me is more of a being a black man in America and specifically referencing the presidential debate or or vice presidential debate as well. Both of them are comments made by both the president and the vice president led me to believe that it was easier for them to deny than to disapprove in regards to any kind of systemic Injustice that has been more prevalent over the last few years. And this is just my tape. This is just what I saw what I interpreted instead of saying cut it out. This is wrong. This isn't the America. We're trying to build or sold. It doesn't exist. That's what I got out of this. So these are these are systemic problems think that if Joe Biden's elected and four years from now at the end of his term that we're going to see any real progress with with issues related to to Black communities to incarceration. The school-to-prison pipeline, etcetera. I I feel we'll see some it just might not be a very substantial this system wasn't built overnight so we won't be able to fix it. So to speak and for years it would take time and we take our well-laid plans. It would take officials to follow through on those plants need those plans and make check marks as the ground work progresses, but I don't think four years would be enough. I think it would be a good start. But do you think it would take to get politicians on both sides of the aisle to work together? To stop thinking about how this would help the party and think about how it would help the people all the people. I know that they're both. Both parties are working individually to do what they think is best for the American people. I think that because they're working kind of one-sided like one team is working by themselves the other team working by themselves. I don't think that they're able to capture all of the page all of the gaps that would come about with their plan. So to speak with something that the Republican Party would consider something Democratic party might not consider like no no great example my head right now. I don't know that they would be able to work together properly without first focusing completely on the American people instead of I guess weaponizing the American people. That was my conversation with Dwayne Ron sharp a Saint Petersburg College student and first-time voter. I spoke to him in a Facebook live event as part of the state. We're in a collaboration between a USF and wmfe in Orlando. You can find the full conversation on the state. We're in Facebook page. You're listening to Florida matters. I'm Bradley George. We're going to take a short break here and wash resume in just a moment. This is Florida matters on wusf 89.7 on Bradley George millions of three idiots have already voted by mail or it early voting sites. So what will election day off like yours Pinellas County elections director, Julie Marcus. I think we have to have some level of expectation. I mean you have you have counties like Miami-Dade that have one point four million registered voters and like they have half their people voting by mail. You know what I mean? So the expectation that like on Election Day that miami-dade's not going to be in to Wednesday in the morning. You know what I mean, meaning like the wee hours of the morning Jake canela's we need to have that level of expectation. So it's 703 705 most counties are going to push out every mail ballot that was counted up until about 6 ish. And then every ballot that was cast in person early voting which probably for this election will account for probably eighty seventy five eighty percent of the votes. In a county I drive for anyway, so we you know what, I mean, cuz we've obviously if you're going to mail ballots folks your folks to use them. So we're hoping we get at least an eighty-two 90% return rate on our mail ballots. So that's a that's most of the boat is already out there. And then you have everybody at the polling places have 7:00. So if you're off line at 7:00, and please every single presidential election and gubernatorial election, I've been doing this for for Seventeen years, we have had lines we've had lines that early both sides we've had lines on Election Day. This is nothing new that is a healthy representative drug receipt when you see life's so we're going to have lines at 7 p.m. On Election night long that lasts voter gets to vote. We have a two-car ballot ones front and back and the other one is all questions. It could take that voter a long time to get through that process and we can't log Close the polls on that scanner to modem election results. And so that last quarter leaves so you may have some polling places where voters haven't left till 7:45 8:00, and now we can offer suppose that there was locations but throughout the night as our our polling places are modem ingin will start will upload those to the website. And then when you see a hundred percent recording that means that all of our calling places have reported in hopefully, you don't have any issues with modems. If you do it just always seems to be like the most I don't know Brian if you can have experiences it always feels like this then it's a course the the modem that's farthest away from your office. And so you have to wait for that one to come in. That's just it happens. It happens. You know what I mean? There's something comes up and it doesn't modem. So now you have to bring it in and that's how you upload the results to the website. And then of course you're going to have that bucket of mail ballots that you're getting toward the end of the day up till 7 p.m. That will be added in the wee hours of when Wednesday morning meeting. So I know that we still have provisionals you still have cures and you have the 10-day overseas, but I think for if you look unless we're literally down to a 2000 concept board and has the results out and and that's because Florida Statutes home really really tight deadlines as to when you have to complete the processes. That was Pinellas County elections director, Julie Marcus talking about how election day could unfold off and joining me. Now. The zoom is WSS Steve newborn. He's been reporting on early voting and vote by mail and some of the issues that have cropped up. It sounds like Steve. There's going to be a pretty massive dump of a voter data as soon as polls closed because of all of these early votes and and and mail-in ballots. Yeah, right Bradley. Like we just heard from Julie Marcus. One thing she didn't say though is the majority of people who have requested and so far returned mail-in ballots have been Democrats. So what we're likely going to see at 8:00 when the results first come in and of course we have to wait till 8:00 because the Panhandle is in the central time zone and the the polls don't close until 8 is that it's going to skew Democratic. So the numbers first are going to be in favor of Joe Biden and the Democratic candidates and as the the later Tally's command more Republicans are voting early and they're also voting in person the day of the election. So it's what I think is going to happen is we're going to see the Democratic swell right at 5:00 and then it's going to kind of even out after that. So don't jump up and down right at 8:00 if your candidate is in the lead. Well something Julie talked about in in that excerpt that we played is that the potential of seventy-five to eighty per-cent of Voters at least in Pinellas County casting ballots before election day. Now, we did that interview with her a few weeks ago before early voting started with just a few days left in in in early voting How likely is it? Do you think that the Pinellas is going to hit that game? Yeah, that's a tough question. So the number of people voting early in in Pinellas County is way down even though they lose county is broke records. The first day of early voting off Pinellas County is trailing in early voting pretty much most of the other counties in the Tampa Bay Area the latest statistics we have here are fifty seven thousand people a bit early in Pinellas that compares to Hillsboro hundred and fifty four thousand people have voted early now Hillsborough obviously has a lot more people than Pinellas County birth to compare it to pass code just to the north which has half as many people as Pinellas 70,000 people have voted early already in Pasco compared to fifty Seven in 57,000 in Pinellas. So there's a lag there and many people believe it's because of the number of early voting sites. There's only five in all of Pinellas County and Hillsborough, there's twenty-six and there's like a dog Teen in Pasco. So that's that's a definite drawback if you want to if you want to vote early. One of the reasons I can imagine in Hillsboro is just because it's just such a large County geographically compared to Pinellas. But is there any other reasons for that kind of disparity between putting sites in one County versus another in terms of the number? Well, it's strictly up to the supervisor of elections. The way Florida's election system is set up the the supervisor of elections in each County have the power to open as many sites as they want drop outside. So early voting sites. So it's it's in their power. We haven't really heard much of a rescheduling for there being so few sites in Pinellas, but we have talked to Craig Latimer in in Hillsborough County and he said he's trying to get as many people as they can to the polls. That's why they've opened up twenty-six sites. Like I said including places as big as Raymond James Stadium in Amalie Arena, they're trying to get as many people as they can. So it's really up to the county by county. So folks who have requested a vote-by-mail ballot if they have it at home right now and they haven't returned it do they have enough time now to to suck it back by mail or do they need to drop it off at an early voting site? Yeah, it's already past the the deadline most supervisor of elections say they say should give it a week and that's a week days. So get it in the mail right now. If you can if not, I would take it down to one of the early drop-off sites. They have plenty in most of the counties or you can just drive up to the supervisor elections that we normally vote and they'll take it for you. So the the best way to make sure your vote that counts the best way to make sure your vote gets counted now is to drop it off in person. And really important for folks. The other thing too is there are tools to track your ballot to see if it's counted or to see if if it's if there's a problem with it and it would be a good idea folks if they've returned a ballot to to go to their County elections website and see if there's any issue with their ballot that might that might need attention. Yeah, absolutely Bradley. They have programs called ballot tracker about Scout is what is called in in Pasco County you go online check your balance see if they've received. I mean takes 5 minutes or you can just sign up before you would end. They'll actually send you an email when they receive it pretty simple. It'll make sure you vote gets counted only takes about five minutes. I recommend everybody do that. And that's really the best way to make sure that you know, your vote gets counted. So something else if there's been a lot of attention on this year is the restoration of voting rights for people with felony convictions in Florida voters overwhelmingly approved a constitutional amendment 2018 which which restored those rights but then the Florida legislature came in and and passed a law which says you need to pay any fines or fees before the Voting Rights going to be restored law has been upheld by the courts. So what are we seeing in terms of of former felons who have been able to have their voting rights restored in this election? Right. So, you know Amendment for one of those past two years ago, it affected one and half million people large number of people not as many fellow would have voted as they sought so the amendment that the legislature tacked-on affected about nine hundred thousand people they had fines and fees that they had to pay off phone number. So, you know people like Desmond Meade who was the driving force behind Amendment for he went to he he collected a lot of money you collected about 5 billion dollars from from people to help pay off all these fines. He says more than twenty-five thousand people have paid off their back fines and can now vote, you know, but there's another wrinkle here last week the state told County elections officials, they'll start the process to remove add-ons from the voter rolls, but it can't happen before election wage. Cuz it came too late under the state's election code. It came under a month before that was going to happen. So, you know while this is playing out at least 30 1,000 fathoms have registered to vote. That's according to the Tampa Bay Times, Miami Herald and propublica. So eighty 80% of the about 80% of those felons who vote may still owe fine. So what we may see here are some kind of legal action. From people alligatoring voter fraud their vote didn't count. I'm sure this will all play out in the next week and that's a definite possibility. So what kind of efforts have there been this year in Florida to to Target new voters into Target people who have never registered to vote before? Yeah, that's that's a major Focus from from both campaigns, you know, particularly Florida's Hispanic population is being really targeted by both Democrats and Republicans off these Hispanic voters are really being targeted and they're being micro targeted. It's not just the Cubans who are traditionally voted Republican. It's the huge wave of or two regions who have come into the States since hurricane Maria devastated the island a couple of years ago and hundreds of thousands of moved and mostly into Osceola County for the torque related jobs that unfortunately have really dried up because of the coronavirus the the Biden campaign is really targeting them. Kamala Harris went there with the there's not just a geographic split here between which way Hispanics will vote. It's also demographic is so you have the cuban-american Let's see what traditionally have voted Republican because of what happened back with Fidel Castro back in their Island, but their kids who don't have that history of growing up with Communism or much more likely to be Progressive and you're being targeted as well. So what you have playing out here in Miami-Dade County video the biggest county in the state. We have record numbers of both Republicans and Democrats registering for the first time. It's not just one political party of or the other. It's pretty much split in half between both. So it just wrapping up this conversation. Let's go back to where we started talking about the results that will see on Election night How likely is it that we will know the winner of the presidential race at least in Florida on the night of November 3rd. Yes. So we're going to have probably a torrential downpour of data that comes in on Tuesday night clubs and there's two factors employed here since we've had a record number of early votes. Those ones are already being counted there. That's what we're going to have this big data dump at 8:00 that we referred to earlier. But you're going to get this last-minute surge of people who actually went to the polls and with the record number of people who were expected to vote. It were probably going to break all records. I think the the record turnout in Florida was Nineteen ninety-two and Bill Clinton was elected. So I would not expect to have a results in Tuesday night. I think it's going to be a minimum Wednesday Thursday. It could take a couple of days as results trickling from rest of the country. So what you're going to hear here is a lot of unfortunately going to hear a lot of disinformation. You can hear a lot of complications of voter fraud is probably going to be a slate of lawsuits left and right but we are pretty familiar with that ever since Bush League or twenty years ago, right? We're all pretty familiar with that. So I thought I would just I would just sit tight Tuesday night take a deep breath and just realize you're probably not going to hear the final results at night. Just just take a deep breath and wait it out like the rest of us wage. And we'll we'll see how it unfolds. That's wusf Steve. Newborn Steve. Thanks so much. Well, you're welcome Bradley and Florida matters will be off next week. But I hope you will join us for our election night coverage from NPR and wusf today show was produced by Donora Prevost. If you missed part of the conversation, or you want to lose it again, you can find it at wusf news. Org play George. Thanks for listening, Florida matters.
149. Michele Rayner-Goolsby
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Please listen with an open heart, and as always I welcome your plate, engage feedback, and I encourage you to continue the conversation in your own life, and with your own community. Welcome degree. Episode of Query. What that's not how we start the show. Saying Hey He's Jordan key position. Can't hear. Today's episode of the PODCAST is chat with Michelle Rainer. Goolsbee who is running for? Florida House District Seventy as Michelle Rainer we about. Her choice to run for the Florida, House we talked about her decision to go to run as Michelle Rayner Show Rainer goals be we talk about a lot of they? Spirituality ship is a good episode. Enjoy it. Feeling. Still. No, careless Always have guests introduced themselves? Introduce Yourself. Well My name is Michelle Rainer Goolsbee. Hyphen, goals be. And I say that because I'm running for office as Michelle Rainer Bets. I am a Lawrence Attorney I am a black cler- woman who is fully clear about who I am and I am from Florida's by was a black woman. Blackwill in raised in the South End, so yeah, that's just kind of who I am in a nutshell. You did a very good job. I have some follow up questions already. Why the decision to run as Michelle, Rainer. So you know my wife has. A advocacy that she does in a way that is just fully her own and I wanted to make sure and I think really. It was a family decision. We wanted to make sure that she was able to stay in her main and do what she needs to do that. It wasn't My run for office wasn't bleeding over into the work. She does as education advocate, and then her work that she does as an education advocate was bleeding over into my work that we're. We were firmly able to have our own identities never own identities in the work, but then also have those moments that were we do come together. Well, that's really interesting, does she also? Does she go by like professionally? She go by her singular last name. Lose the title I I am Hyphen Rainer Goolsbee initiation schools. Got It got it. well, that's pretty. When did you make that decision? While AGO recent we're. Always been kind of fluid with us, so I mean my because I grew up in the area. That I'm running in. Everybody knows my family's. I've always been known as Rainer Way, so it's not anything that was kind of just A. Like, a decision of like well, I'm just GonNa go by Rainer, but it's just you know folks through my family. They know who are represented acts of the area that I am ready for in some capacity, and so it just kind of was one of the instances when I got married. I just end on Goolsbee. Summer when you say everyone knows your family were from where talked to me specifically about where you're from in Florida, so I'm from Pinellas County, so everyone's like. WAS THAT TAMPA? It is absolutely not so finalists. County is odd clearwater clearwater. Saint Pete. Sharpen sprays so eight is on the west coast of Florida in so really pinal county. My parents their love story starting at Gibbs Junior, college so a little bit about gives you your. It's located in south. Saint Pete and it was the only place that black folks were able to get a post secondary education. In the nineteen fifties and sixties, it literally was the only place. Even at that point you know when you say the only place, do you mean? In that area in area got area. Yes, so in that area it was the only place in that area, so if you wanted to stay in Pinellas County, or even in the Tampa Bay area at large, which you know, Tampa is connected to Pinellas by bridge. You would go to gives you your college, so my parents started at Gibbs Year college then. Around that time, the University of South Florida opened up to start accepting on black students, and so my parents were a part of that handful first handful of suits that actually started matriculating into University of south. Florida, so my mom tells me stories about how she was sitting in class and. Even professors would say like just ridiculous things star and she's like. You know and so having to navigate that and then you know just other folks in my family who have served. Pinal county whether it's been through government whether it's been through their jobs, and just us being there so I would say that I would be a third generation Pinellas county resident so I'm very proud to have grown up in Florida at very proud to have been Florida, and then also. My Dad's roots are also from south Georgia so. There's really that southern you know. Theme that runs through my family ray. I WanNa talk even further about so you said you said. In government, so members of your family have worked in government correct. at at what level local government or state government or so here? In fact, the seat that I'm running for State House District Seventy was state, house, district, fifty five, and my uncle was the state representative for State House while fifty five before it got gerrymandered and became State House district seventy while. There's so many things to break down in there. Right, okay, and I also just want to say because you. Backpedal for just a moment as you said, is it Tampa definitely not Tampa and I feel like there's some stuff even to unpack in that because you know, our listeners are from all over the US, but then also all over the world and so i. I will say some things about like. My understanding of Florida that already have so like you said first of all you said Florida, the South and I will just say first of all just as a blanket statement I think. In the US many people who are not from Florida wouldn't necessarily say Florida so the south. That's just something. I think it's an especially I think. The predominant. Image of Floridian is like sort of this bumbling conservative weight. person like that is the that is what has been exported I recently. And I know you said you're not Tampa, but I recently played Tampa like. Last year and I was surprised even just in Tampa by. That like that city itself has. Is openly talks about The. Immigrant populations that have lived there, and that that it was at the center of Cigar Rolling Fact Yeah Yeah, and so that it is not white lady. Yes, exactly Ebor city there are first of all wild roosters in the streets. Second of all. It is the gay neighborhood, but there's no bar that is called Cox. We must realize that that is a huge problem. However are the wild restores again. No Cox Anyway just people even. Yes people leaving money on the table, but City I I was surprised to like. Florida see any area of Florida. Talk about. People of Color that there at all, and then I also would say that I don't think that. Just nationally, we talk about Florida as a place where black people live when. We talk about I mean because here's the deal and at posted on my socials. You know I posted. There is a mean someone tweeted that the fact that Florida is really not a joke like we actually have people that live here and people who actually who are like. By the lack of leadership that is just. Florida is known for rape, and that's literally probably the one of the reasons why I'm running I mean I literally woke up. And Cameron I was just like you know I could. I could say out this race I could really just do what I do. Live this nice life with my wife in like you know via voyeur. Just kind of be quieted. Just still do the work that I do on a national level, but I literally looked at the landscape, and it looked at the folks who are already in this race in the kept saying to myself like I can't keep asking for someone to step up if I know that I'm going to like if it's me and really, it's an I'm encouraged because. Throughout the state there other folks like me who are stepping up as well or other folks who have already been in you know state government that are kind of like Oh my God. Thank God. We need somebody else, said notes from rally to rally. Because at some point, it's going to be more progressive folks than not, and so it is a lot of people. Don't think that you know when I say I'm. I'm from the south they're like. Oh you so you must be from like North Lorna. No, but there's still that southern roots that permeate through even even West Central Florida and it is hard because you allow people think of Miami when they think Florida, so you don't think of like south. They're like. Oh, it's Miami like so. That is kind of Florida but I. I do for Miami like well. Miami's not Florida. For Miami, right so. There are so many different cultures that we've through, and even while Tampa has talked about you know the immigrant culture, but they're still issues that we're grappling with when it comes to black lives and black lives, nattering not only in. Tampa, hillsborough, county, but also in. And really what we call the bay area's so pay Nellis Hillsborough. Is What we call the bay area, and so we're still grappling with those issues. We're still grappling with issues of you know the lgbtq plus community shoot within our own eligible. Could you know Q. Plus Community? We're still grappling with those issues. I mean that has actually. I don't know if you know that's become a factor in my race. Tell me more about what you mean. So there was an organization that gave at my opponent is a gendered heterosexual black man the Stonewall Democrats so it's the LGBT. Acute plus copies gave him the Gave them hit their endorsement, saying that he would be better on lgbtq plus issues than I would be. Now. This is after equality Florida. Human Rights Campaign Victory Fund. Hillsborough County lgbt a caucus in when pe-. They said we wouldn't. We didn't see her, and I said well. I've been in this community been doing work, but what happened, is these this organization that was primarily made up by older white queer. Folks refused to recognize the intersection -ality of being a black queer woman in doing work in the spaces and understanding the work that you do in those spaces. Actually set everybody free. And so where you and not, and then he refused to understand that the fact that stonewall who you're named after. That pride that we all celebrate is because of black and Latte Nex Trans Women or lesbians. But. You have a race a black queer women. From even being possibly. you know Essentially you know endorsed and I think a lot of that other political reasons, but I think that it gets into the conversations of why there is not. Black Queer. Folks don't feel comfortable in predominantly white queer spaces. Yeah I. Gave You a lot right? There I gave you a lot right there. I'm trying to. Figure out the follow up question because I. First of all thanks for sharing that and second of all so. In there and I'm not asking you to like. Speak Up, but in their. When? They were talking about why this person would be better. was there a reasoning at all was? was there a stated reasoning? Got They hadn't seen me and that's when you say they hadn't seen you. Do you mean they hadn't seen? You like on the ticket or that? They hadn't seen the work. You've been previously doing allegedly. The work I've been previously doing even though the work. that. I've actually done has been like not only documented in I dunno on CNN, and in paper Sharon and there are folks that will give them receives. It was to me. It an and because of how the whole situation went down, it was almost a racer of why was as a person. And a racer of the work that I've done. So it was almost like them. Saying this person has a higher profile. This other dude. Just that is essentially what they were saying this is. Don't even of a higher profile. It just was because it's not. It was just literally I mean I will tell you that. The community drug that organization themsel- still dragging them that literally like drag like they're dragging them because. I will say that if I win this election, it will be historic that I will be in. There's another black where women that's running on the other coast that I would be one. If not the only black first black queer women openly black career woman to be elected at any level at any level in in the state of Florida. Why. I mean it's a huge deal and I want to ask this question also because so demographically the district that you represent because I know you mentioned Gerrymandering, so is it What is the racial demographic of the district? You represent so it would would represent. Yes, so is literally right now. It's used to be historically black, but it's literally right now. Probably about fifty fifty I mean it's it's it's broken down, and a lot of that is due because of gentrification and things of that nature, so it is literally you kind of almost fifty fifty. They're also is a lot nets population. That's starting to move. into the area hadn't really been previously like you. Kind of you know a viable. I would think as far as voting block a viable voting block in the area, so you're starting to see kind of it. Shift right, and so you know one of the things that I've just been proud of of who I am is that I stand firmly in the intersection of intersections of ym, but knowing where I stand can touch different folks in different ways. What about like queasiness, wise or aged wise? Is it We're what about on knows? His wife, there is definitely like a population of of of Queer folks, because Saint Pete really has been a home to queer people and afraid even for Queer. Folks win, you know even Tampa at one point was raped, and obviously North County pinellas definitely was not so it has been a safe haven for you know folks in our community, so it really has so there is definitely voting block there and what? I've even made sure that I. let folks know is that I'm not taking your vote for granted just because like. Yeah, we're like, but I also want you know because we have people that can be an office and you're like wow! You've literally nothing for us by. No fat now. Why am I in our community? But I'm doing this work because I understand that everything that happens every law that has passed that whether it's against. Black folks like next folks. Undocumented folks are trade that are trade. That train is never late to hit our community, and ultimately it's personal for me I mean I have I have a wife and the way that we move throughout the world and we show up throughout the world, I understand that any injustice that is allowed will impact the way that we move in live our life. Yeah absolutely. So. You know it's interesting. Of course I'm not. You know you're not the person who's telling me that it is. fucked up or or challenging to operate in White Chris Basis as a as a black person actually. see that myself. You know I'm. and. I wonder. I don't know what the Florida legislature is like. How many! How. Many black folks are how many folks actually? Work in the Florida legislature there not united to give me numbers, but. There's a good amount I. mean it's definitely not half. It is definitely not, but we. It's like it's a good amount, but when you think about it, so it is it is predominantly Republican, White Male, Republican, on, and then the Democrats are in the minority. In there is a handful of I, not say for probably about. Twenty plus maybe twenty five of black of. Lawmakers enacting I, May I may be overshooting that so let me kind of. Reverse that don't put that on. There, but there is. Is You know there is a handful of black folks but I? Mean it is is a fight it's it is always the five, and then you know right now we only have. One black openly queer a man that is in the House that is now running for Senate, and even as he served so beautifully in the house. He's still getting. You know he doesn't have family values. Oh, he is gay and it's like come on lake. Como, this man and his representative Chevron Jones. WHO's one of my dearest friends? He literally has served his district just like you would flee. Literally beautifully and his opponents like the only thing that they have is like. You. Don't like women. Like if like. Yeah I mean Oh. You're gay, said you don't know if values are. It's like we know those dog whistles right like we know what that is like. We know what that means. You know and so it's eight is frustrating to see and I've seen that. Show up in in my race have seen that show up in a another another gentleman's race. That's running in. A West Palm beach that he he's not. He's not gay, but he has to two miles and he's a black man and you know. Sitting represent a sitting. Black representative has literally said just horrific You know gay slurs about him and. Know to one point where he had to step down from his committee assignments, but I'm like, but stepping down from your committee is. Is Not Enough and we have to late. Let folks know that we are here. We are here and you know whether you like it or not. Where we're going to be here and we're going to run and work went to lead in end in all of those kinds of things, and we have families in, and we have friends that love US said. In all of those kinds of things. I love that I mean that's. That's really funny to think about it that way because. I think in the past. It's like I don't know how I don't know how old you are, but maybe were thirty. I'm thirty eight? Okay, okay. We're the same age because I was gonNA say I. Feel like that is interesting because previously when people could stay that. That dog whistle at? You're talking about like not having. Family Values League twenty years ago or fifteen years ago ten years ago. I love the idea that you're like. No, we have like partners and friends that love us because I. think that something that's true for the for Queer folks is like. In the past, maybe we had. We've always had community, but it. It just is like a different feeling for somebody. That's maybe our age where it's like. I'm actually shall with WHO I am like one hundred percent percent so for you to try to crack that. It's just like A. It's a different thing. You know like I think about that as a different thing to. Whatever like Harvey Milk era person where it's just like hundred show on the outside of culture resist like now I'm like in culture and cool with myself. He come at me in this way. Sure, but like this is not. Well for you I. Don't have crack in that freight and you know it's so interesting because when I was going to Ryan in it. Because this district is, you know historically predominantly black folks were like. Are you concerned with no black people are? Hired. They're gonNA. Feel that you you know having wife in what I found. Is that like? Ninety percents. People don't care because I. Don't know they're just trying to make sure that they CA- live. I don't know they're trying to make sure they can get you know healthcare I don't know they're trying to make sure that they don't have to choose between actually their rent, and maybe you know getting healthcare. Oh, I don't know there's a pandemic. That's happening. Oh, I don't know people's. You know officers. Foots are on people's necks and killing them, and for on Prime Time Television I. Don't think people really care about who I lay down with. There's all concerned with a lot more, and that's what I've been finding. Is that people like that's cool anyway, so we're GONNA. Do about this unemployment system. That's woefully broken. We're GONNA. Do about you know economic development in light of Kobe nineteen like literally. That's like a an That's just like the last thing that people are can't about so when opponents and even my opponents have brought it up in this race. Right have tried to say that you were like. I don't really care about that. I care about the work that she's done the solutions that she's already provided an what she's. GonNa do what she gets to Tallahassee because that literally awesome, the end of the day Kammer were I think that it's fair? We're all selfish. We're all about. How was my life going to be better right? I mean at the end of the day Sir as as all I when I. Out Terrific is you may be ultimately you are looking at about the impact of your life, and I think that we have folks were really impacted by the lack of leadership that we've had in the state of Florida by the lack of leadership that some of our elected officials have shown even locally where I'm running, so folks are like since that's great, I don't. Don't care. What are you going to do? Let me look to what you've done. Okay. This is the woman that when something goes out. We can call her and she actually comes up with the solution so I, I think you're absolutely right like in this time. It's like I'm very clear about who I am. 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Of course, of course, there are black folks who are. Stepping into power and who have spaces, but historically and until I. You know I don't even know. The last two years like the the. Faces being the most rewarded were white faces in in our. In Our community in our movement, so I think about like the reason I was asking about the demographics of the Florida legislature specifically is I was kind of wondering like I. would never want that experience for you like I, don't want you as a person to have had to have had the experience of leading in a culture that didn't necessarily reward that leadership or notice it validated, but then I thought about how perhaps that was almost like. The exact right preparation for somebody going into the state. House in Florida it's on this like your being. Your your knowing how to like. Outlast a community didn't necessarily. Center you as a leader that might be. That would be kind of what I would anticipate if you were to win. This seat is that you would then be a black person going into a predominantly white space. There's also conservative management older all this stuff that you mentioned earlier I was thinking. Wow, she might be. She might like know how to do this. Right like in a way that maybe I wouldn't I in some ways you know if that makes. It does make sense and I think that for me, you know. Like I didn't anticipate sailing into the right idea. sailing into it I didn't anticipate some of the things that have occurred even within my own community. But I also know that when you are literally like changing history or or making history was added. Even think about when I was running I was like Yo. There's a need like well. Okay. This is going to me I just. I just did I just do what I do and You know I don't. Think twice about it I see. There's a need and I think that a Lotta Times just the work that I've done it just as a civil rights attorney, the work that I've done as a criminal defense attorney and having to deal with prosecutors in the state of Florida I think it just set yourself up for that and I think also even just my upbringing, especially like in the Black Church has a lot of the all of my lived experiences have made me in this place of like. Listen, you know I am a very kind person. We can have conversations from us very principled and win. I'll try to find common ground, but if that common ground goes against who I am as person goes against people who they are, and how they operate in this world. We're not gonNA. Be Able to do it, but and I think that I'm very clear about that and I would say ten years ago and we could get into even all of that ten years ago. I wouldn't be able to be in this position. I am now I mean hell even five years ago. Ago Bullets will maybe like a good idea around me. Really having the lived experiences that I've had that brought me to this point I. think that is what makes me very firm in and who I am and being able to go into the space because I've worked in Tallahassee with states, inter I was her age, so I know how it looks I know how it is in state government, and it is not a place really. Where does all GonNa? Get along like. A part of that rate, but there's also part of like you know. You have to like some in your inner ion honor, Presley or Like? You don't get to do that and I think that. There's that balance. You have to know how to navigate that. And I really look at all of the lived experiences that had that brought me to this point, and so that's where I think that there's that that beauty and being able to walk into the space because already know. There's there's there's a girl got a wife like already know like. Conservative white male. Yes, you know ces, head, white male mindset that's conservative at that may not be as open, but also understanding that I'm good at what I do. I'm moderately intelligent and that I. Work Hard, and so I'm going to be able to say that I'm GONNA be able to make my case so for me. It comes down to respect, so you may not respect me as a person how I show up in this, but you're gonNA. Respect my work. You were spent what I do. Respect what I say, and then we'll start to pull you in that way. Does that make sense? Yeah it does and I I also wanted to. Highlight one thing that you just mentioned because it's also literally some took like a couple of notes that I wanted to ask you about which is. I know how important black churches can be in in an election in the south. And then you said you were raised in the church and I wanted to just ask you. About your experience there like you're. Growing up. With clearness as it, those things so slang against each other or If we're going to be really transparent. And hopefully, he was like Oh my God, but if we're GONNA, be traced fair. I've known since I was eleven years old that I was clear by group in a particular type of charge. That like that. You couldn't even conceptualize that. I mean we're the same age, so you know that there was a point in time when we are going up. That wasn't even like like you knew. Could you really depending how you grow up like for me? It wasn't really some conceptualize right because you have astros coming across the pool pit, saying craziness about folks who are in our community right here, you, I grew up Catholic, and you know. I will just say that. It was I didn't know I didn't know I was correct. At that age I just thought that's how everybody felt about their friends and For it was a devastating process that led to a huge rift with that part of my life, and you know. My parents were crying for a bunch of years all this, but but. Catholicism works a little differently in that. It's not like it's not as like a community hub it does. It does purveyed schooling, which was my experience so like my whole community was Catholic and that was not really messed with me because when I figured out what was going on with me, it was like okay. I'll turn this teacher. No I won't okay I'll turn to this group of friends. No, I won't. I'll turn my family. No I won't okay I'll talk to my priest about it. You know really the weren't. It didn't feel like there were safe resources but I do think that by the time adulthood happens many Catholics. Many people who were raised Catholic. some people still use it as their voting principle, some people will be like I'm actually a single issue voter in that's abortion and it's very confusing because I've had one. You like like there's that first thing. But there's a there's less of A. Is just it's different than the Black Church. In terms of how voting works out for sure and I I hear your experience with when you were ten. Understanding yourself all that yeah, I mean, and so I knew in. I. Don't know if I would be able to like articulated out eleven like Oh. Now looking back. That's what it was like I, knew I was just like I'm different but you know I never worked to live that out. and so I grew up in the church and went to like a Chris all ended up. Dated you know men for? Actually ended up. Like. IDEA. That can happen. It can happen. Can Happen happens to the best of and and so so and I ended up. You know obviously now with him anymore and. I had to get really honest about who I am like I had to get really honest about who I wasn't how I wanted to show up in this world in how I felt about about things and I know that happened when I was you know. I'm thirty eight now so like thirty four so very short period ago. and. I'm so happy for you bigs so even through even before that there were moments that I would try to be honest and I'll be like. Because you know, you grew up in the church in then, also you're known in the community. People like if you do this, your whole career is GonNa. Be Wrong. Right and I remember when I came out someone very close to me, said Your career is over like you're not gonna be able to do anything you're not. You know you know you don't need to tell people don't put it on facebook, but ever because you will not have a career I was like. I was married to a trash, asked man, and it was all over facebook. I'm going to be happy and live my best live and I you know. I was brought. My wife in who makes me the happiest person I've ever been and so I could put that foolish this on facebook I'm GonNa go ahead and put my who I am and the love of my life on facebook. But you know what I found. Even in the black church is now I have about fifteen pastors who are prominent pastors who are supporting me in who are endorsing me and I think that you know I say listen like I, love Jesus and asked my wife so like it is what is not going anywhere. She is not you know I'm not gonNA hide her. Near the words of my wife, she said I remember. We first started talking. Talking, she says I'm cute to be in the closet, so like I like you can do. You can do you to do. She's like I cute to be in the closet and and UH munitions like I've lived that life I won't do it in I had to decide you know. Listen like am I going to be who I am and for so long and I think a lot of folks in our community can really kind of. Relate to to to my story in my mom. I'm giving you the abridged version, but really of just you have to make a decision to be happy. You have to make a decision living your truth, because at the end of the day at all the people that job living for they have live for themselves. They have made their decisions A to decide hey! Hey listen. I'm going to do what makes me happy I'm going to be who I am not going to hide away from it, and in fact I'm lean into that thing, and that's what I did I did too in in. It's not just like Shama about grew. It is who I am. It's how in the world and it is very. It has been. My wife Myra relationship are probably will try not to cry, but my wife in so many ways has saved my life. And in so many ways has helped me be a. she's been a teacher. She's been a friend. She's been a lover. She's been all of those things that you think about. Remember if you groping Catholics, aren't you may? Have Gotten this thing like yours. Your it was a your husband is supposed to show you. The heart of God is supposed to show you God's love for you. And I never felt that before until I married her and I said. If this caused heart for me like this is what it is like. This is what it is like it in and. It didn't feel wrong. You know what I mean. It did feel like if felt like. This is what all the things like. This is God's heart for you. This is a choice of houses to show you it. Having being able to navigate this life with her has been beautiful and and I say you know Cameron like I am in a sorority. And I was speaking at an event, and this young girl, younger girl young to me. Twenty one I'm thirty eight, so she had just you know. Came into our Sorority, and she said I was saying I was talking as women's history month, and I just identified identify as Black Women Blah Blah Blah in and I just kind of moved on with what was said didn't think it was big deal, and she came up to me as you said at tears in her eyes, and she said Wow, I said. Gosh, is that when you named you were? I felt something inside of me, set free. And for me, That's what it's about nets with. It's about because. I don't think that you can move your life. And especially the life that we are in the community that we're in what we represent that you have to understand that literally just by living you to be doing anything extraordinary just by living. You're literally setting someone else free. Yeah. Yeah I mean. First of all, thank you for. Thank you for all that and. Personality, Yeah even to this even when you go to a church. Not Often, but I still go. I say Bishop Jakes is my passer, but no I mean I have a church church that I attended, but It did take me a while for a while that I you know was like Nah I'm absolutely not going but I. Still Pray I still believe in God and I still. because it was principles that you know there are that are found that I that were just ingrained in me and I think that a lot of times just like with anything we add a lot of foolishness onto stuff that had nothing to do with God and nothing to do with religion and say that you know my wife was. She grew up in the church and she that's not her thing. She's more spiritual and I respect how she she moves in and operates in the world and and I get it like you know I i. think a lot of us who have. have grown up in the church. Have to kind of figure out how we maneuver in reconciled with that, but I don't think that you know SIS head. People have the lock on. You know anytime any religion whether whatever religion you choose to practice. I refused to be locked into that and so yeah like I. Still Pray I still talk to God. I mean I. Am I all for the super diving into the Organiz relate like how I grew up? No, but I still go and I still you know you know will listen to a good sermon, those kinds of things. You know this is like an interesting. So I was I was having a pretty asked having A. You know as as everything was unfolding In the recent resurgence of the black lives matter movement. I was having a very interesting experience of like. You know so super religious, not just like spiritual, but like a person of great faith and religious till nineteen, and then now it's nineteen years later and I have thought of myself as somebody who was was absolutely a religious like I'm not I'm not religious I can be still spiritual. But as I was. Processing. Why I had the beliefs that I had like was as I was watching. You know. Why am I responding to this? The way that I am I'm sending this very strange experience. Of Corn. Like Oh my God I literally had to like Kinda grab might. Bridge and be like. It's like Like it, it is Jesus. Like that is really fight, like look at my upbringing, what is the basis for my understanding? How I think people should be treated. It is the golden rule. It's that like what like what would what is the greatest commandment? And then he actually answers with two, which is love God. Above all things love others as yourself. And to love. Would he answer to? Commandments? Accept Defeat if they're actually the same thing which is to love. God is to love the spirit of another and I was like. It was like having like a full freak out like I. X Is there so moment. Excuse me. And I don't know that it means When I look at that. I just think that is. That is great human teaching like that's great human teaching about what we're doing here like at the end of the day. Everything I've ever read or heard or related to. Has Been Reflection of that thing. It's not that I think that one person figured it out, or you know that one face figured it out, but that I think everything I've ever liked. It all falls under that category of what are we all doing? We're trying to respect the spirit that is in another an and I was just like I. was like off. Fuck like edged like aspirin. I would be. Christian Fully freaking out, but like I don't know what any of this means in a larger sense, except that that is where it comes from from me. Is this part of my upbringing that no matter? Whether or not I ever attached to that through going to a specific place again that that part I still have that. I still agree with that. Yeah no I mean. I think about it like I. Really ultimately also was brought up in like Black Liberation Theology where you walk in my parents house. There's a picture of Jesus in a picture Malcolm, x. like you literally walk. My Mama's house so die has kind of informed the way that I have even looked at religion in church so for me, even yes, there's this way that you are to comport yourself in life, but ultimately you are here to be you know advocates for the oppressed. You are here to speak on behalf of those who may not have the agency to do so we're here to To even Jesus when he said you know when I was sick. You Fed me when I was. You know when I when I was sick. You came to see me when I was a hungry. You Fed me when I was in jail. You came to be like literally. That was like the things that he talked about. And understanding that that is that is how kind of for me. I have been comported throughout my life. My mother would always say to much is given much is required. You know you have this gift. And even out like you don't like. This is ridiculous. Oh my God mom. She's like given much is required. You know I mean and so dad is kind of informed the way that I think that. Let much like you does that me. You go to a singular place made that you know you start doing all the youth groups and all the noticing to me, but that means that is a guiding force in your your life, and whether how that looks like in land for you. That's not my business. But you know yeah, but but you know it is it but I think that there is that foundational of just just folks, Friday just Levin People. Yeah and I and I do agree that. Will for me I will say this. Specifically Liberation Theology as the Catholic, but. There's also a part of Catholicism that it's the very left dislike socialist arm gift. That I was that I was into and it is interesting because it's about ax. You know like that's the. That for I think that. What the Black Church has been able to do is be like and these are acts on behalf of ourself you know like because we right we are. We are the community that needs the liberation and I. Think I think it's just. You know as a person was raised Catholic. It's very strange because if you're in the part of it that still liberation theology part you have to go, wait a minute, but we are the oppressors like there's the there's a moment where it eats its own tail, and you're like, but we're colonial. Becomes a very strange and that's what that's. What essentially? Me Right out of the church, but it is interesting to look at okay well, then how will live my life and I? Just I just hear a lot of that in what you're talking about about why you're running and all this okay. How much time we got fourteen minutes, this is very. Not Its design of no, it's not enough time. Okay, so there is something that I feel like our. How did you and your wife meet? If you don't mind my asking you to personal? Now. It's not to first of all so I will tell you that when I initially met her. If it is ten years ago. She was my friends sorority sister and they were so in black. Greek organizations. We have what we call probate so when you get it, you get initiated in like you're presented to like everybody, so she was my friends were. Therein lies. com your online that was from last sister and I are the I mean I would go by their house. I'd be like Oh. Whatever I'm was whole married to a whole whole other man. Didn't even really like whatever. It's like okay cool and so I mean. We was more like a head, not so probably fast forward from that point six years. I you know has started my own law firm in I needed a website. My wife is also a digital strategist so. That same sorority sisters husbands all reach out to Bianca when my wife Nicole, reached out Bianca, was like in the whole relationship with Mike Herrell at the time. I was like I'm married, but like this isn't really gone. This ain't gonNA work. So like this? Don't relieve this. Ain't so nonetheless very professional, very whatever, and at one point I ended up getting separated in Damn my and I said Oh. Hey, do you do videography? came out. She came to my office with her whole girlfriend. Still that nothing whatever and. My my my paralegals like what's going on between you. Two nothing was just doing video, but the I immediately felt the I never felt at all in my life and camera any other human I was. It was like other worldly I was like what is happening right here. and. Didn't think anything of it was like okay. I'm like her whole girlfriends. They're like It's like whatever. So still separated in I'm like it's really not gonNA work like. We're gay. So then we ended up talking and I'm not really kind of with that person and I said okay. We're going to hang out like we're just going to hang out the friends you know and. I I. Know All about this sure. Sure all I can. So just like pulling. Now, yeah yeah like dislike. Just how? Right so. It was like no. I, can't you? Do. Is We. Then I was like I'm still separated, but like I need to figure out where the guy would do like like. Go back to work this out or I'm just GonNa like whatever and I was thinking I really really like you. Know this wasn't supposed to happen. so she was like well. Listen you know if you do what you want to do I'm going to do what I WANNA do. We're not. So I'm not I'm not I'm not okay with that. ISSUE, but I'm not okay with you having me like a year. Why while you trying to work out with their fair I mean so. As I worked out very quickly. It was like yeah, so so we're done. God bless you buy. And we did very quickly like by. And Yeah, and then we just you know, have been together ever since and. Really we got married and two thousand, eighteen and Yes, we've been together a total of four and a half four years four and a half years, and then married for two and. It has been amazing it. We joke that it feels longer and not in the sense of like all those long, but in the sense of like I just feel like I've just known her like I'm home. In honesty, the other life that I lived in a in A. Hope this makes sense like the other life that I live. It was literally like it to someone else did a lot of things to fulfill a lot of. Will you know because of even my family dynamic? You know of how I grew up I was the person that was supposed to make. This is what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to do this. And because of the fairly dynamic I was in. I'm GonNa Fulfil these roles, but it literally was his life that happened to another person and that particular relationship it was not. It was not healthy. It was definitely abusive. and. So literally when I look back to that person in how I operated in that space, because I wasn't healed, and I wasn't whole. That wasn't being honest with myself. It is literally like it's a whole other life. Yeah, I mean. I can relate to that. I can relate to that I mean it's. It's a little bit further in the past for me but I I certainly understand the experience of. Not Identifying Qurna some trying to operate that way in how? Completely for me. That was like. I thought. People are. Things aren't really romantic or whatever you know. It's just like I. Don't know. I just didn't understand right a sort of baseline experience. That was part of love like I. Just think I just. People have. Pals. Buddies River I I just didn't really get it and It is interesting to me to think about, but also because you're like a full adult. You're like an adult. What's? Happening the whole you'll, you're a lawyer. You know that's that's a little different than my experience and I would imagine that like. I mean what does it feel like to? That feels very. It feels. Like thrust into an adult relationship. At a time, when maybe you're still getting to know yourself, does that make any sense? Yeah, sorry, my Uber eats came. I'm so glad you have some food the Yes that's. Yeah arrived. Yes, right into this adult relationship 'cause when I when I first was dating, having had this experience and then I realized. I was like dating somebody I was twenty. They were twenty. It felt adult, but also. You know. Like I didn't have a credit card or a phone. You know so. Different. Out a law firm you weren't like. Yeah, I wasn't as civil rights. Attorney is what I? What I was. So I mean. I I. Look back on it in I like it's really. Crazy to me in hope, this makes sense. You know after like it was clear that just came out to my parents and my dad was like. Okay. She treats you better than the other one cycler. My Dad, my dad's like my mom. She struggled with it a little bit more. I just for everybody else I was like no fear. In I. Think when you have been in a place of. Operated out of fear every aspect of my life. I operated out of fear in my relationship with my ex spouse. Operated out of fear, even when I started my business, I operated operate out of fear just even with myself. At some point, it was just like. You know they say cuss, but you fuck it. I just literally I'm going to be who I am. And I'm going to love I love it in, so I wasn't fearful. I felt free. And I was going to be who I was, and it was a very adult relationship like we were like mayors like that we're going to hang out. We were going to be cool and like that's all. I was like you know you, do you do? In. The you know God universe where everyone call. It had other plans and I think that. I know for a fact. that. I would not even be talking to you in a lot of the things that happened subsequently after. Life and I. You know got together probably wouldn't have happened to me. I know I was in a situation that was very competitive with your partner I. Don't think you need to be competing with your partner. I was in the situation that was very financially those very emotionally abusive. That intern physical like so. I can tell you having the freedom to be. Listed your wife with the people. That's like my wife right now. She's like you're the people i. I. Really as your wife, she's like no. The People's live, but having harvey able to even understand that. In No, when we have to obviously figure it out in the TR's the defining the relationship conversations where we. Are Live Ziara us to be married having. Where we have. In you know last night. So. Yeah, WE'RE GONNA. Check 'em thinking like Oh. God! What did I do with? Because like you know my past relationship I was like. Oh I. 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How Strong Are Our Sewage Systems?
"This is florida matters. I'm robin sussing ham. It's been nearly three years since some high profile. Sewage spills fouled the waters orders around tampa bay as the summer rains continue to pour down on us and hurricanes loom as a possibility what's changed can tampa bay's aging in pipes and stormwater infrastructure. Keep the pollution contained here in the studio with us. <unk> are josh solomon. Gatehouse media investigative reporter based at the sarasota herald tribune. Thanks for being here. Josh thank you for having me. I really appreciate it and claude. Tankersley tankersley public works administrator for the city of saint petersburg claude. Thanks for being here more pleasure claude hurricane. Her mean dumped a lot of water on the bay. A area in august two thousand sixteen caused massive sewage spills in pinellas hillsborough did manage to avoid the spills at that point but that is win win. Your stormwater task force was started right right after spills in pinellas county came up with an action plan rights right. That's correct to address this so to get a little update on what's going on. I know that officials have been going out into the community in saint petersburg trying to update the public what what other been telling us so so we we actually started the stormwater wastewater task force right after hurricane her main and as a side note i had been with the city for only six six months at that time so i was brand new to the city and that was my immersion into the problem <hes> the task force was established to include all the utilities in pinellas else county because we all were experiencing problems and so we were looking for ways that we could address the problems address the problems of the aging infrastructure how how we can work together sharing resources to prevent these things from happening in the future okay and so all of the utilities within pinellas county have been doing what they need to do specific to the utility to give you an example what saint petersburg has been doing. We have invested approximately one hundred fifty million dollars into into expanding our wastewater treatment plants in the last three years. We've spent another one hundred million dollars or so on the collection system making getting the pipes less leaky so we get less stormwater into the system. Josh you wrote a comprehensive article back in april about sewage spills throughout the whole state a florida not just our bay area. What what were some of the things that you found you know. We decided to do this story. Because we had several spills earlier this year <hes> back to back in the sarasota soda manatee area and of course we known about the reporting and the issues dispose in tampa bay a few years prior so we decided to actually see if there is any data on this us to do some analysis and of course the florida department of environmental protection does keep that data <hes> we were able to obtain ten years worth of reported spills and what we found was that across across florida <hes> sewers were failing up to six times a day in the state. They've been nearly twenty three thousand reports of sewage spills. You know in those spills released about about one point six billion gallons of wastewater and that includes about three hundred seventy million gallons of completely untreated sewage. This is for the whole state over a ten year period including including three hundred seventy million gallons of completely untreated sewage claude. I wanna ask these sound like big numbers but it's a a big state with a lot of people a lot of waterways. How starling are these numbers to someone like you who deals with this every day. They are large numbers but in can you put them. In context of how much wastewater we produce is not as bad as you would think so for instance the city of saint petersburg we treat approximately eleven seven billion gallons of wastewater a year so three what percentage of that get spilled or has gotten spilled less than one tenth of one percent depending on the year so even though it sounds like oh my gosh tens of millions of gallons of sewage have been spilled. You're like well. That's a drop in the bucket compared to how much we handled successfully. That's correct we as the state of florida the utilities here are very successful in treating our sewage successfully ninety nine point nine percent of the time right but that little percentage point does mean a lot of dirty water and it has it has a big effect <hes> so josh de the a._p. Florida part environmental protection sounds like it's doing a good job of keeping data on all of these spills. How does that all work. Yeah i mean the data is pretty good. Um any time there is a spill reported to a few different systems but ultimately collected at the statewide level on tallahassee florida department of environmental protection. I'm not sure sure what exactly they use data four internally but i know because they were collecting it. We were able to get it and do some analysis. Make it public seems to me and i may be remembering this wrong wrong but it seemed to me that that all started with rick scott former governor rick scott when there was that radioactive spill at the mosaic plant in polk county is that actually occurred right around the same time as r. twenty fifteen twenty sixteen <hes> rainfalls in sewer spills they all occur at roughly around the same time so that was the time when <hes> governor rick scott did put in an executive order to require any utility or or business that had a hazardous spill of any kind signed to report it to the public in addition to reporting it to dp right because mosaic had reported to d. e. p. but then the neighbors around that land you know with wells dell's became alarmed yes and after that so this has gone into into effect and this is how you got the data josh absolutely and i guess the only thing i would add is that although louis did look at it you know on a statewide level we did also wanna focus on where this was occurring and we did see the whole tampa bay region from north of hillsboro. All the way down to our area sarasota manatee actually had ten times. The sewage spilled over the ten year period than miami dade county save much larger area. I know the most startling find you found that our area in that ten year period had ten times as much the total sillage released miami dade area which is much more crowded much more crowded i mean i think it'll be a smaller land area. Could you look at us. You know the region and correct me if i'm wrong but but i think it's you know north of hillsboro all the way down the sarasota bradenton so quite a large area coverage of sarasota band tampa bay but yet to see occurring not much more often than even an area like miami dade. Yeah i think was concerning to a lot of people we talked to and then you did see that he'll the tin waterways with the most untreated sewage spills hillsborough river came out on on top. That was also a startling fine. Absolutely i was confused about one thing on your graphic of the volume of untreated spills it. It does look like the miami. Dade area is right up there with our area that is untreated spills so when we looked at it you know there are several different categories of sewage spills treated spills untreated spills so we tried to look at all of the number that i used earlier. The ten times more was total. Okay so that's what i wanted had to ask you claude this terminology between treated sewage being spilled or untreated or partially treated. What's the difference of those categories it does. It make a big difference to our waterways. If it's partially treated untreated it does it does make a difference untreated. Wastewater is with waste wastewater that is basically is in the collection system so if the leak came from an overflowing manhole or a leaky pipe then that is untreated sewage raw raw sewage is another term we use and that has the most amount of contaminants in it but if the wastewater has reached a treatment plant and the spill occurs somewhere in the treatment process or maybe even after the treatment process than that wastewater has received a significant amount of treatment it may not meet the full requirements choirmaster of the d. e. p. permits for the treated <hes> discharge but it has received a significant amount of treatment so for instance in in one of our treatment plants. We have multiple processes throughout the plant. <hes> we start off with what we call screening which is exactly what it sounds and then we go to aeration and then we go to settling and then we get a filtration so there's lots of different processes and each one of those processes remove contaminants you can remove ninety nine percent contaminants within the first two with the reprocesses and so if the wastewater was spilled after the first two or three processes ninety nine percent of the contaminants have already been removed at that point even though it may not meet permit requirements so it might have some nutrients in it that could feed algae but it wouldn't have e. Coli like what if if the very final treatment at all plants is disinfection either using the final final treatment and so that'd be <hes> chlorine or u._v. not or some other kind of disinfectant so if it if it comes after that it could still have too much nitrogen it could still have too much dissolved solids is in it but it would have received the disinfection so therefore most likely would not have the bacteria viruses in it but it's still has the nutrients that is not good for environment. Okay okay. I'm a little confused because i thought that was the final step so in other words it had to go through all the steps yes and then get disinfected and then it's released into the water. That's correct correct and so what happens when special we have heavy rainfall. We may get more water into our system than the system is designed to handle so even though that water went through through the entire treatment system it overwhelmed the treatment system so much water went through that filtration it may not have been able to remove all the contaminants civil supposed to still made it through it and then then it gets all the way to the end and then we we add the chlorine or the u._v. and we disinfect it but it still leaves perhaps some dissolved solids allies or nitrogen or phosphorus in there just because of the overwhelming amount of water that went through the treatment plan just wasn't up to the task gus correct of all the water that came in and that's what happened than during hurricane her mean and this was spilled out. What was the upshot of that josh when that water was released. Did it close beach is this did it cause algal blooms what happened we didn't you know draw any immediate correlation with you know there was a sewage spill on a tuesday and the beach was closed on a thursday <hes> you know i don't think it worked quite like that but certainly we talked to different environmentalists and waterkeeper who argued that depending on whether it was treated how well it was treated but the spouse can have significant packs on our waters you know but i think everyone would like to see more testing. They're you know obviously we had a really bad red tide year the previous summer you know well. Is there any links there. Those are things. I think we don't quite know yet. Some people are stronger than others that there are those links right. Most scientists aren't really ready to make that that link yet with red tide. Maybe a little bit stronger correlation with the algal blooms that were on the east coast. I guess another thing that was surprising when you solve josh how much untreated water was released in the whole state was that our water isn't dirtier than it is because you see that there was all these sewage spills but yet you very rarely hear about a beach closing or people getting sick or anything i mean you you look at that and say oh my god. A billion gallons gallons of wastewater is released. You'd think we'd have colorado or something but the water's pretty clean isn't it. Yes a water significantly cleaner now than it was back in the seventies. When we first i started really looking at how we can treat our wastewater and keep it out of the bay. If even with all the growth we've had even with all the growth had since then the the the bay is significantly cleaner honor we still don't wanna spill anything into it and so we'll continually fight to improve our systems but it has had a big impact on the cleanliness of our waters and and i want to point out one thing about the closing beaches we city saint petersburg we test our beach waters once a week throughout the year and we sometimes have to close the beach win is just been a rainfall and what we're finding is is that storm water the water that after the rain falls down and it runs through yard and might pick up your dog waste it might pick up some bird waste in my pick up some garbage goes all through yard through the streets into the storm water system system announced to the bay that water's very dirty and it hasn't received a lot of treatment and that water can dirty enough that that can close a beach and so we often in have beach closures that have nothing to do a sewage. It has all to do with storm more with runoff runoff but isn't that runoff. Wouldn't that also be something. The city or the county should be taking care of with retention ponds or some kind of devices. Yes that's the future of clean water in in the state date and when i say future that doesn't mean we've been ignoring the past pinellas county as well as i think sarasota. Forgive me if i'm wrong. I have fertilizer bands during the summer to help prevent prevent that water quality degradation from storm water runoff and the state hasn't bandeaus state is not banda. That's correct so so we've started the process but as we move through this process and we've done such a good job of cleaning up our wastewater we are finding that our storm water is very dirty and we're looking at what we can do to mitigate that yeah i and do think he's right on that point and i'd add there are other pieces i mean the septic tanks right are another big issue in florida with aging and failing septic tanks and we didn't really dig into that we focused on the sewer issue issue with there's a lot of issues with similar runoff similar problems with the celtics as well claude pinellas. We don't wanna pick on saint petersburg pinellas county. They're not the only only one having problems as you pointed out. Officials want to double storm water fees for unincorporated hillsborough county now right so they can. They can do preventative of maintenance. They don't have to wait until water main breaks or a sewage pipe breaks. That's correct <hes> as as i mentioned earlier we're learning more and more about how stormwater impacts our environment as done such a good job of cleaning up the point source of sewage when we're realizing that there's still some degradation in our environment realizing it's coming coming from that storm water component and here in the state of florida we had separate stormwater and wastewater systems many parts of the country particularly up in the northeast as they have what they call combined sewer systems or stormwater and wastewater go into the same pipes here. We have separate pipes so that we can treat the wastewater water separately from the storm water. We treat our wastewater in a very methodical way. Mechanically physically chemically biologically implants are for stormwater though the treatment for that is not as advanced and it usually involves primarily just settling so we will divert the storm water into as you mentioned earlier retention pond on a stormwater pond that allows the solids to settle out but that doesn't provide the full level treatment that we have with wastewater plants. Why don't they do that up. North north is because there's an older much older systems correct yes so so wastewater system started as a way of just getting the waste away from the population and so you i just want to get it into some moving water body as quickly as possible to get it away so as easy to combine the conveyance with storm water and wastewater into one because you just made it go away you didn't treat it and then over time yes yes they went directly to the rivers and so you know they would discharge waste directly directly into the river as long as it went away from them that made them feel comfortable and safe but as populations grew and and our knowledge of health sciences grew. We realized that that was not the best way to do it. So hillsborough county is saying we need to do preventative maintenance. We can't just wait for an emergency. They've had water main breaks big ones and then they they found <hes> just recently this a huge sewage pipe that was going to the port of tampa <hes> they accidentally found out that it was about halfway gone it had been and corroded by hydrogen sulfide. Yes so tell me about this. This is i guess the problem with aging pipes yes. It is as a matter of fact we we saw that in saint pete earlier this month. Oh what happened. You may have seen where we had. A six foot. Diameter hole opened up in one of our streets. It was a depression in n. Eighty third avenue north and seven street north it wasn't a sinkhole but it was a depression and it opened up because a large diameter sewer pipe beneath the road the top of the pipe had corroded due to hydrogen sulfide corrosion that ate away at the concrete so that the top of the pipe opened up a small all whole maybe about the size of a large coin but that was enough to allow sand too slowly filtered through like an hourglass into the pipe so that it created a void under the road and eventually the road fell n now one of the things that confuse people as we reported that this was due to broken sewer pipe and so people assumed that a broken sewer pipe meant. We must build wastewater but we didn't. It was just a hole at the top of the pipe. The wastewater is at the bottom of the pipes of the wastewater could continue to flow very well but the top of hype allowed that soiled is filtered through and that's very common but there's so many interconnected problems yes they can cause problems not just with the water and spillage but obviously with the road so all this infrastructure is connected. Yes what about josh this flesh eating bacteria that we heard so much about this summer. Is this connected to this dirty water. I mean again. I think it goes back to the same thing you mentioned mentioned. The beach closures to blue-green algae potentially even the red tide. I mean we're seeing all these things. Get worse. You know we know some of the things we're doing as humans certainly aren't good for that. I don't think we know exactly how much is a direct contributor again. Different scientists and environmentalists we talked to <hes> have sort of different opinions on that but i agree in just living here my whole life. If you know i remember growing up and mom would say go into the ocean with your cut. You know it'll heal it. Make good for you now. You wouldn't do that get flesh-eating bacteria so i mean certainly things things you know anecdotally or are getting worse and depending on who you talk to. They're just trying to do more studies to figure out exactly how much all these are contributing and the waters are supposed to be getting adding incrementally warmer yes <hes>. Is that making your job harder claude. Yes it is yes. It is making our job harder. In part because warmer warmer order warmer air produces more rainfall more intense rains more often we have rain more often and so that inundates our community community with the storm water in higher wastewater flows and so yes it does affect us and would also seem like it'd be harder to kill things because the bacteria would love that yes yes yes bacteria. That thrives in warm waters matter of fact. I'm red tide is is associated with the warmer waters so i as you would expect as as the water's warm up we would see more more effect from these bacteria and other contaminants so do you think you're seeing the effects already of having expanded your wastewater water treatment plants in the fact that you really haven't we haven't been reporting on any spills and saint petersburg for awhile for awhile that was a good steady beat for someone reporters so so. Do you think it's having an effect on confidence so i keep track of our wastewater flows and our rainfall on a daily basis and the you the this summer the summer of twenty nineteen. We're actually getting the same rainfall patterns that we did in the summer of two thousand fifteen and if you remember in the summer twenty fifteen thousand the first i summer that saint pete had his first big spills also this summer. We're pasco county had a lot of flooding going on. If you look at the rainfall patterns for twenty nineteen they mimic twenty two thousand fifteen almost exactly as a matter of fact twenty nineteen as of august six we'd had about two inches more rain in two thousand nineteen than we had in two thousand fifteen fifteen in saint petersburg but the flows in our wastewater system are about two thirds of what they were in two thousand fifteen so i do believe louis that the work we've been doing has reduced the flows and our system which means we've reduced the leaking of our systems and we haven't had any wastewater overflows congratulations relations. Thank you say that is good news. That's good to hear now. This is all expensive proposition right right but i think that's the biggest thing you know is that we need to continue to invest in in these systems. You know maybe sometimes it's easier to go out and sell an infrastructure project road that people drive on they see every day. People don't really think about sewage and all these things things right. There buried underground. You don't really think about that kind of stuff until it doesn't work right and then there's a problem <hes> but i think that's the wrong way to go about it and certainly from the folks we talked to so when researching the story. I think really there needs to be more of an emphasis. Put on investment of these types of systems so we're not constantly in this problem trying to play catchup. Where does the money come from con. The money comes from our our users that they come from our water and sewer fees. They don't come from the taxes. We might pay on our property right but if you use a thousand gallons of water then we will charge you for that thousand gallons of water and a thousand gallons of sewage and we use those fees that we get to upgrade eight and increase and improve our system and josh's absolutely one hundred percent right this is these systems are not a one and done you build them and then you forget about him or you fix them him once and forget about them. They're they're like our human bodies. Every single day they get older every single day deteriorate and we have to constantly maintain maintain them constantly parts of the state peace system are date back to the eighteen hundreds late eighteen ninety s these are old systems and we can either dig them up and replace them which is it's very disruptive and very expensive or we can maintain them as we go along but none of us including myself to pay higher fees every year for water and sewer you're and so since they're outta sight outta mind and we think oh it's working because my toilet flushes. Hey it works then we wait until we have a crisis and so one of the things that are council in our mayor is very adamant about is making sure that we we don't allow ourselves to become complacent in the future so for instance. One of the things that we're going to be doing now is every five years. We're going to televise each foot of our underground pipes. We have over nine hundred fifty miles of underground empire could drive from here up to pennsylvania. That's how much underground pipes. We haven't saint pete so these are the kind of things that we should be doing unfortunately in the past we allowed how to go by the wayside. Isn't there federal money available for this to help with this also not as much anymore there are federal loans that are available <hes> but the heyday of federal money for clean water was back in the sixties seventies and eighties when the federal gave grants for these kind of projects and i had the theory theory that that's part of the reason why we're in this mess is because we is the local citizens had federal grants to build our systems and then when we set our fees we set the fees to pay for the maintenance of the system not the construction because the construction was done using federal grants and then we just didn't didn't think far enough ahead to recognize it at some point what was built with federal grants were not going to have to rebuild or repair using local money and so i think we we started off our rates too low and just never really got him up door. They should've been interesting yeah so it's kind of a psychological barrier here. People need to get over us. That's correct from the pinellas county website <hes> they say that the technical working group which is the your your <hes> taskforce on storm water <hes> once once a countywide public dialog program to increase education outreach and citizen engagement. I was a little surprised when i read that because i thought well what differences that make how educated the citizens are you know makes a huge show explain now so to give you an example one. We we have had had some discharges this year but they have not been related to rainfall. They've been related to mechanical failure or clogs in the system and one of the messages we really need to get out to people is that there are two things that definitely do not belong in your in your sewer system. Greece and flushable wipes now. They're called flushable because the manufacturers call them that when you flush them they'll leave your toilet but they don't did they don't break down easily in our system and so what happens is you have thousands upon thousands of these wipes that don't don't break down our system and they mix together there with the grease that people might pour down the drain after cooking the meal and then it forms. What's called a fat burg. Look it up. I know it's a strange sounding name but it's you've got sounds disgusting but it is cussing. It's a combination of congealed greece's and other rags and materials and just like a clogged artery will stop the flow in your body. The fat burger stop the flow in wastewater collection system causing overflow and that is one hundred percent related to the people who who use our systems. I never heard that does flushable wipes were a problem josh yeah i will yeah. I was just gonna mention when we look at one of the things in the data is the cause the reported cost <hes> so we're able to filter through and primarily you know it was storm driven those types of things <hes> but we did see both fats and wipes a big issue in bradenton flushable. Oh baby wipes did did cause a clog that ended up spewing. I think about eighty thousand gallons of sewage interbreeding terms whereas creek and that was user error that was from yeah flushed. I flushed wipes. Housing a problem isn't clyde. It's a huge problem and it's a problem that goes unreported but the vast majority of the clogs that are occurring hiring in our sewer systems are related to both greece's fats and the flushable wipes well. I knew greece would mess up your garbage disposal disposal but yet shouldn't be in the pipes at all shouldn't be in the pipes. She just throw it out in the garbage garbage. Put it a to take an old of vegetable can important there until it solidifies and throw it away the flushable wipes also they really should be thrown away. You know you have a trash. Can in your restroom thrown away in the a trash can don't flush them. Please that's claude. Tankersley public works administrator for the city of saint petersburg and we've also been talking to joss salman allman gatehouse media investigative reporter based at the sarasota herald tribune. Thank you both for being here. Thank you you can tweet us. At florida matters. I and florida matters is available as a podcast search for it wherever you get your podcast florida matters is a production of w u._s._f. Public media the engineer is george goven. This week show was produced by mary sheddan and stephanie columbanus. I'm robin sesing ham. Thanks for listening.
Apple Releases First AR Experience for TV+ DTH
"The these are the daily tech headlines for friday february twelfth. Twenty twenty one. Everett struggling apple released. Its first air experience apple tv plus for all mankind time capsule available in the us now with more regions follow the app lets users interact with virtual objects set in the real world and includes exclusive experiences for lighter equipped ipad pro iphone twelve pro and the iphone twelve pro. Max in a follow up to the hack on a florida water treatment plant a cybersecurity advisory from massachusetts now says the skater control system were accessed by team. Viewer where all. The computers share the same password and had no firewall protection installed so any current or former employees could adjust the entire towns water supply from anywhere according to the wall street journal pinellas county. Sheriff bob gualtieri said. The plant stopped using team. You're six months ago but left it. Installed bloomberg sources say the us defense department and intel found servers using super micro. Motherboards were sending network dated chinese servers in two thousand ten and twenty fourteen respectively with the fbi launching a probe in two thousand twelve. This follows a twenty eighteen bloomberg feature which alleged that chips were inserted into super micro for malicious purposes. That were then used by amazon and apple however amazon apple the nsa and homeland security all denied the story and a third party. Investigation by super micro found no supporting evidence as part of its q. One earnings disney's is closed. Disney plus surpassed ninety four point nine million subscribers surpassing its launch goal of sixty to ninety million subscribers by twenty twenty four disney now expects disney plus. We'll have two hundred thirty two hundred sixty million subscribers by twenty twenty four the analysts sensor tower report that spending on the top one hundred nine game subscription based apps increased three percent of the year twenty twenty to thirteen billion dollars accounting for about eleven point seven percent of in purchases. Apple's apps are subscription spending increased thirty two percent to ten point three billion dollars while the play store grew forty two percent to two point. Seven billion dollars. The analyst at npd group founded the nintendo switch console units january the most for the month since the intendo we in two thousand ten however the ps five had the highest dollar sales in the month breaking the previous record set by the nintendo. We in two thousand nine. Facebook said it's limiting the reach of content posted by the myanmar military enforcing its policy on repeat misinformation offenders. The company also suspended the and more government agencies ability to ask facebook for content removal through channels reserved for authorities. Google updated google photos on android to now offer google one subscribers access to machine learning powered editing tools previously available only to pixel device odors. Google also said ios and android google photos apps. We'll get more feature parody in the coming months with the ios version getting an updated photo editor and android getting a revamp video editor. The video land foundation announced version. Four point nova it's popular veal. Media player will arrive in the next few months with a redesigned featuring modernized icons and transparent interface elements. The developers are also working on a version to run inside a web page using webassembly and supporting extensions to offer third party videos from online sources. Microsoft reported that the number of malicious web shells installed on web servers doubled since august twenty twenty with the company detecting roughly one hundred and forty thousand web shells per month. The company recommends or a patch public facing systems extend antivirus protecting servers rather than the just end points at segment networks to limit the damage of web. Shell can do and finally invidia confirmed that it's supplying rtx twenty sixty and gts ten fifty ti graphics cards to its board partners to meet the market demand from the ongoing ship shortage. The rtx twenty six was first released in january twenty nineteen while the ten fifty ti watched in two thousand sixteen although invidia notes either has reached end of life status. Remember from our discussion of the tech news of the day subscribed to take new show had take new show dot com by jones there and links to all these headlines. There was well thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next time. And from all of us here at daily tech headlines remember have a super sparkly day.
ENZ 247 How To Get Deals From The Courthouse
"Welcome to episode two hundred forty seven. You're listening to escaping the rei newbies. Own podcast where you'll learn the underground closely guarded secrets that will revolutionize your real estate business. This podcast is all about helping you. Exit the real estate newbies zone and etter financial freedom building up your real estate thrown. This is escaping the rei news own podcast and now your host real estate investor entrepreneur world traveler and nationwide mentor. Chris bruce i don guys welcome back to another episode of escaping. Rei nobis on. I'm your host. Chris bruce on his say. Thank you for tuning into today's show Man has been a phenomenal. Start for the second quarter. I cannot play at all all right. We're heading towards a good direction with our company. I have some excellent excellent interviews content. I'm gonna be bringing to the marketplace over the next few weeks in. I am excited about that. One thing korean. Today's episode. I wanna make sure if you haven't already subscribe to the podcast guys. Wait way you can stay tuned in once they get released fresh off the press every tuesday and friday. You'll get by so most of you have a podcast app on your phone with us stitcher. Whether it is a the items podcast app you can subscribe from there in that way. You get notified or your phone okay Also if you enjoy these episodes. I would appreciate if you tag me in post at detroit. Mogul if you put on instagram story out will re post it as well. So feel free to do that. Right and women to talk about today Is really a source of targeting. Our elite source there should be targeting like everybody retargeting this and just so happens that my past deals closed both were these type of leads. Okay And i really feel like a lot of people that aren't targeting these. Maybe because they don't know how to specifically sometimes you can literally run across one mistakenly And i only say mistakenly but you just happen to row into this lease arts because it happens to be under umbrella of another league source and if you got more of these leads retargeted more these directly There will be huge huge profits of. It's been my most profitable lee source today. Steel on after ten years of being a business. And i want to share that with you all right. So what am i talking about arcus. So first off there are Over to. I think i'm not mistaken. Two million deaths a year in the us all right. I could be wrong. You can fact check and make sure But you know unfortunately these people pass away. Some are a person that owns real estate. And it ends up going to you. Know someone the air's they inherited the property or a ghost appropriate appropriateness figure out who was gonna take ownership of the property and these houses once again it's asset that has up in the hands of a friend a family member or what not end disallow happens that these people don't wanna be owners of these properties okay. Death is one thing that is certain happened. And it's unfortunate right. Nobody wants to see anybody die. But it's gonna happen and there's a lot of real estate that is tied with some of these people that die and it ends up in the hands of someone that is really unknown wanting to be owner of this property. You know maybe they live in california and they inherited property in floor and now they don't want to be traveling back a four. Maybe don't even have the money to be traveling back and forth to keep with the house you know Attended inara become landlord fixing up ford to be ready to be a condition to sell to a nineteen things like that okay and so if you market to help these homeowners again is not about just focusing on how much money can make people but focusing on helping these people help them liquidate this property. There is plentiful of these deals out there nationwide but mostly targeted. Most people don't know how to get us with somebody that passes away and reach out to the in a nice way where you are not going to basically make them mad right. So it has to be impotent. hockey you reach out to these people all right well. That's the only talk about today. Number one deciple leads are called probe's or inherited leads there's lot of list brokers that probably sale probate list or inherited list Shout ere he sell some good flip. This real estate lists dot com. Make sure you Put my name in arizona furrow. you'll get a discount You can purchase directly from there the easier way easier but one way you can do it. Which is a little bit more so liabilities easy but to go directly and get the leads and be able to get updated leads because their work differently every county. You can get directly from your house. These lease are available. Now some of you in some counties they might make it harder for you to get access than it does some other counties all right why lotteries okay hillsborough county. Berra's few years ago. There was a big Plethora of people that were doing tax for all they were actually filing people's taxes that of people that were did you know and make money off these people so what had happened. It made it a lot harder to get these records because of that but go over to the county next to it. Pinellas county walk right into the courthouse and get access to it and i go to the county next to that. Pasco county and pay to get access to these light leads on live all right so every count is going to be different but what you wanna do is you wanna get it touch. Probate department and let them not real estate investor in you specialize in buying properties that are inherited from ears directly. In so you wanna be able to help the community right lunar rehabilitate community by bodies properties. And you get access to these leads and then you go in there figure out our house the process that now you might talk to somebody in a mate Run around keep calling because these lease are available again in every single area in. These are hot leads again. People die every single day. Fortunately but these people also don't know will. What do i do now. And that's where you come in to help them because they don't know that you're available to help them sell the property in a non traditional way. They they get on my fix it up then i gotta go you know. Put it on market. Pay realtor's also helping them alleviate that pain out the word. Did you get smart. You can actually go directly to someone who lawyers goto fi probate attorneys in your in your area and work directly with them Chevron the benefit that you're gonna make them look good because all these profiles that are getting now you can say we haven't in addition of extension of services will offer you also up. You have property we can help you liquidate that as well You know for cash for quick cash okay. And then they work so the not with their pro Oh take cash directly but maybe works on the now and helping them as well on the back end all right so you should be definitely targeted and i said the past deals that we didn't want to close couple weeks ago next one. We're closing on monday. I closed got pushback These came from people that inherited the property from their parents. All right so. These deals are everywhere. Usually fall a lot of times under the of vacant umbrella. So yes you could go out and target vacant properties in you might stumble on a couple of these deals but i will tell you target them directly target them directly because again there are homeowners out there that inherit these properties that are looking in praying for a miracle. Something like this for you to come around. Offer your services being able to close quickly able to get cash. Beat beat a by as naturally the commission's prams of like this they don't even know some now this exists so you can reach out to them with the letter explaining your grief in you know selenium empathy in a letter and this letting them know. Hey look whenever ready when the family is ready to give you a call. Is this residual offer rush. You can do that and they will get in contact with you okay. On my first deal it was appropriate. Deal from a letter sent. I sent six letters out one of those which sell it. Which ashley bake me for contact. Because they didn't know what they were going to do. New jersey and a property was in pasco county of flora. Had no idea what they're gonna do and they hate me for pseudo net letter. And that's what happens when you reach out to people. If you sindelar has empathy again you not to saginaw. Buy a house in occupa- ask a closing. You're actually put a will drawn out letters. Senator them in imitation style type of envelope are gonna thank you okay. They may not call you right in there because maybe they passed the week ago. Whatever but a will call you and they will thank you. We'll sell the property to you for pennies on dollar because all you wanna do is just get rid of it so don't have any emotional attachment to it because they didn't actually The money for the house themselves. I didn't think the bathrooms things up light fixtures and stuff like that so volume. They say interest as cash from me this. This is quick cash. I've never had fitted com ever thousand mile. You tell them you gotta give me some cash real cash wire to tomato absolutely on property so you definitely should be targeted him and like i say. Go down to the courthouse. Get access to direct someone you might pay to get access live online you can get them I've actually put together a training course specifically on how to get these type deals. I even talk about how to get tax. Default deals from across as well to victims. And things like that. So if you're interested you want more information about some really inexpensive course. One of the cheapest courses offer out there. I usually don't ever sell of course anything like on this podcast but some you wanna learn little more deeper how the process works break step by step by giving delivered actually use even show video interview a how i talked with someone at the probate office. So if you're interested you wanna get more information about the product. It's called courthouse cash system. I show you how to produce cash from the courthouse you can go to cross casts dot com get access to it. Video explained everything. And you check that out guys. Hope you enjoyed this shorts we episode. I appreciate all the if you enjoyed it. Please also leaves asher view. We liked those because it helps pushes up in rakings and you guys know my quote. Don't live the dream libya dream. I will see you on the next episode. Thanks for listening. To escaping the rei newbies own cast at www dot escaped the newbies zone dot com.
Apple Releases First AR Experience for TV+ - DTH
"These are the daily tech headlines for friday february twelfth twenty twenty one rich struggling apple released its first air experience apple tv plus for all mankind. Time capsule available in the us now with more regions follow the app lets users interact with virtual objects set in the real world and includes exclusive experiences for lighter equipped ipad pro iphone twelve pro and the iphone twelve pro. Max in a follow up to the hack on a florida water treatment plant a cybersecurity advisory from massachusetts now says the skater control system were accessed by team. Viewer where all. The computers share the same password and had no firewall protection installed so any current or former employees could adjust the entire towns water supply from anywhere according to the wall street journal pinellas county. Sheriff bob gualtieri said. The plant stopped using team. You're six months ago but left it. Installed bloomberg sources say the us defense department and intel found servers using super micro. Motherboards were sending network dated chinese servers in two thousand ten and twenty fourteen respectively with the fbi launching a probe in two thousand twelve. This follows a twenty eighteen bloomberg feature which alleged that chips were inserted into super micro boards for malicious purposes. That were then used by amazon and apple however amazon apple the nsa and homeland security all denied the story and a third party. Investigation by super micro found no supporting evidence as part of its q. One earnings disney's is closed. Disney plus surpassed ninety four point nine million subscribers surpassing its launch goal of sixty to ninety million subscribers by twenty twenty four disney now expects disney plus. We'll have two hundred thirty two hundred sixty million subscribers by twenty twenty four the analysts sensor tower report that spending on the top one hundred nine game subscription based apps increased three percent of the year twenty twenty to thirteen billion dollars accounting for about eleven point seven percent of in purchases. Apple's apps subscription spending increased thirty two percent to ten point three billion dollars while the play store grew forty two percent to two point seven billion dollars. The analyst at npd group founded the nintendo switch console units january the most for the month since the intendo we in two thousand ten however the ps five had the highest dollar sales in the month breaking the previous record set by the nintendo. We in two thousand nine. Facebook said it's limiting the reach of content posted by the myanmar military enforcing its policy on repeat misinformation offenders. The company also suspended the and more government agencies ability to ask facebook for content removal through channels reserved for authorities. Google updated google photos on android to now offer google one subscribers access to machine learning powered editing tools previously available only to pixel device odors. Google also said ios and android google photos apps. We'll get more feature parody in the coming months with the ios version getting an updated photo editor and android getting a revamp video editor. The video land foundation announced version. Four point nova it's popular veal. Media player will arrive in the next few months with a redesigned featuring modernized icons and transparent interface elements. The developers are also working on a version to run inside a web page using webassembly and supporting extensions to offer third party videos from online sources. Microsoft reported that the number of malicious web shells installed on web servers doubled since august twenty twenty with the company detecting roughly one hundred and forty thousand web shells per month. The company recommends or patch public facing systems extend antivirus protecting servers. Rather than the just end points at segment networks to limit the damage of web. Shell can do and finally invidia confirmed that it's supplying rtx twenty sixty and gts ten fifty ti graphics cards to its board partners to meet the market demand from the ongoing ship shortage. The rtx twenty six was first released in january twenty nineteen while the ten fifty ti watched in two thousand sixteen although invidia notes either has reached end of life status. Remember from our discussion of the tech news of the day subscribed to take new show had take new show dot com by jones there and links to all these headlines. There was well thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next time. And from all of us here at daily tech headlines remember have a super sparkly day.
Amazon Developing Wall-Mounted Echo Device DTH
"These are the daily tech headlines for tuesday february. Ninth twenty twenty one. I'm rich drop lino. Bloomberg sources say amazon's lab one twenty six harbor. Division is developing a wall mounted echo device with large touchscreen to serve as a smart home control panel and video conferencing solution amazon is considering a ten to thirteen inch screen for the device with pricing discussed between two hundred and two hundred fifty dollars with a potential release toward the end of twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two pinellas county florida. Sheriff bob carey said monday that someone used the remote access system to the oldsmar florida water treatment plant at adm february fifth and attempted to increase the level of sodium hydroxide otherwise ally to a dangerous level and on premises operator immediately reduce the level. Once the change was made and the sheriff noted other failsafes and alarm systems would have also prevented the dangerous adjustment. Had the operator not noticed the game developer cd project. Red disclosed at suffered a ransomware attack. The attackers threatening to release allegedly obtained source code for cyberpunk twenty seventy seven. The witcher. Three gwent an unreleased version of which are three. If ransom is not paid the developer said they will not negotiate with the attackers and do not believe any personal data of players or service. Users has been compromised. Goule removed the popular bar code scanner app from the play store after security researchers at mel where bites from the latest release contain malware. The app has been downloaded more than ten million times and was previously part of google's official. Play pass program. Jordache acquired chow botox mostly known for a salad. Making robot called sally which chooses grease from bins to assemble bowls of sounds and other bowl. Friendly items. Jordache seems to attend to offer chow botox to partner restaurants saying it will enhance our robust merchant offerings and logistics platform. Ea announced in attempts to acquire the mobile game developer global for two point one billion dollars according the ea ceo andrew wilson the acquisition will double the size of e as mobile efforts. Google announced plans to bring its project. Five vpn service to iphones this spring and plans to remove the beta designation for the services on android. The company also launched a privacy and security cub in the app on android phones shop. If i announced partnership with facebook to bring its shop pay payment option to merchants on instagram in the us followed by facebook a few weeks later when checking out using shop pay on the platforms users will receive a confirmation code on their phone which they can then enter into the app to complete the transaction fit role that blood glucose tracking for its apps on android users can connect one touch reveal from life scan to the app with more device support to follow and love glucose information in the app for essentially view of health information. Welcome unveiled two new five g. Modems snapdragon x sixty five. An x sixty two both promise better battery life with the x sixty five supporting downloads. Up to ten gigabits per second as well as aggregating several sub six gigahertz networks for a faster connection with the x sixty two supporting four point four gigabit per second downloads. Steam officially launched china offering around forty titles with another ten or so listed as coming soon with all games on the chinese version. Subject to china's official game review process a global version of steam had available previously in china sony announced the ps five launch in china and q two this year both sony and microsoft obtained government certification to sell next generation consoles in china back in december a study by open form europe funded by the european commission found that in two thousand eighteen at least eight percent of europe's computer programmer. Employees contributed to open source projects with about two hundred sixty thousand programmers producing the equivalent. Fulltime work of sixteen thousand developers for the year at the study estimated the economic impact of open source software between sixty five thousand nine hundred five billion euros an estimated that a ten percent increase in contributors could increase the gdp but almost one hundred billion euros per year and finally the uk disclosed. It's h cove nineteen contact tracing app as downloaded twenty one point seven million times with sixteen point five million actively using the app. The app has recommended one point. Seven million people self isolate based on over eight hundred twenty. Five thousand reported positive tests with the oxford big data institute. Estimating the app prevented about six hundred thousand cases. Remember from our discussion of the news of the day. Subscribe to daily tech news at tech new show dot com and remember to rate and review daily tech headlines. Wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next time. And from all of us here at daily tech headlines remember a super sparkly day.
Amazon Developing Wall-Mounted Echo Device - DTH
"These are the daily tech headlines for tuesday february. Ninth twenty one. I'm rich drop lino. Bloomberg sources say amazon's lab one twenty six harbor. Division is developing a wall mounted echo device with large touchscreen to serve as a smart home control panel and video conferencing solution amazon is considering a ten to thirteen inch screen for the device with pricing discussed between two hundred and two hundred fifty dollars with a potential release toward the end of twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two pinellas county florida. Sheriff bob carey said monday that someone used the remote access system to the oldsmar florida water treatment plant at adm february fifth and attempted to increase the level of sodium hydroxide otherwise ally to a dangerous level and on premises operator immediately reduce the level. Once the change was made and the sheriff noted other failsafes and alarm systems would have also prevented the dangerous adjustment. Had the operator not noticed the game developer cd project. Red disclosed at suffered a ransomware attack. The attackers threatening to release allegedly obtained source code for cyberpunk twenty seventy seven. The witcher. Three gwent an unreleased version of which are three. If ransom is not paid the developer said they will not negotiate with the attackers and do not believe any personal data of players or service. Users has been compromised. Goule removed the popular bar code scanner app from the play store after security researchers at mel where bites from the latest release contain malware. The app has been downloaded more than ten million times and was previously part of google's official. Play pass program. Jordache acquired chow botox mostly known for a salad. Making robot called sally which chooses grease from bins to assemble bowls of sounds and other bowl. Friendly items. Jordache seems to attend to offer chow botox to partner restaurants saying it will enhance our robust merchant and logistics platform. Ea announced in attempts to acquire the mobile game developer global for two point one billion dollars according the ea ceo andrew wilson the acquisition will double the size of e as mobile efforts. Google announced plans to bring its project. Five vpn service to iphones this spring and plans to remove the beta designation for the services on android. The company also launched a privacy and security cub in the app on android phones shop. I announced partnership with facebook to bring its shop. Pay payment option to merchants on instagram in the us followed by facebook a few weeks later when checking out using shop pay on the platforms users will receive a confirmation code on their phone which they can then enter into the app to complete the transaction fit role that blood glucose tracking for its apps on android users can connect one touch reveal from life scan to the app with more device support to follow and love. Blood glucose information in the app for essentially view of health information. Welcome unveiled two new five g. Modems snapdragon x sixty five. An x sixty two both promise better battery life with the x sixty five supporting downloads. Up to ten gigabits per second as well as aggregating several sub six gigahertz networks for a faster connection with the x sixty two supporting four point four gigabit per second downloads. Steam officially launched china offering around forty titles with another ten or so listed as coming soon with all games on the chinese version. Subject to china's official game review process a global version of steam had available previously in china sony announced the ps five launch in china and q two this year both sony and microsoft obtained government certification to sell next generation consoles in china back in december a study by form europe funded by the european commission found that in two thousand eighteen at least eight percent of europe's computer programmer. Employees contributed to open source projects with about two hundred sixty thousand programmers producing the equivalent. Fulltime work of sixteen thousand developers for the year at the study estimated the economic impact of open source software between sixty five thousand nine hundred five billion euros an estimated that a ten percent increase in contributors could increase the gdp but almost one hundred billion euros per year and finally the uk disclosed. It's h cove nineteen. Contact tracing app as downloaded twenty one point seven million times with sixteen point five million actively using the app. The app has recommended one point. Seven million people self isolate based on over eight hundred twenty. Five thousand reported positive tests with the oxford big data institute. Estimating the app prevented about six hundred thousand cases. Remember from our discussion of the news of the day. Subscribe to daily tech news at tech new show dot com and remember to rate and review daily tech headlines. Wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next time. And from all of us here at daily tech headlines remember a super sparkly day.
February 9, 2021
"From the sea so series it cybersecurity headlines. It's tuesday february ninth twenty. Twenty one look at rainy spyware operations researchers at checkpoint recently outlined to iranian surveillance operations targeting more than one thousand dissidents across thirteen countries including the us and the uk. The operators attempted to install novel melwert on phones. Npc's in order to steal call recordings and other media. Ap fifty focused on mobile phones packaging. Malware look game on the google. Play store offering a fake security app providing ineffective wallpaper app and personality. Third party app store entirely a second group. Notice invite us more traditional email phishing attempts to install malware p. c.'s. Advisement since at least two thousand seven while abt fifty has operated ten campaigns since two thousand seventeen florida water treatment plant hacked to distribute chemicals. Pinellas county florida. Sheriff bob. gutierrez said monday that someone gained remote access to the oldsmar florida. Water treatment plant on eight. Am february fifth attempting to increase sodium hydroxide otherwise known as lie to dangerous levels a plant operator. I ought to supervisor had access the system from home after the intruder raised the levels a monitoring operator immediately reduced it with the remote access system now disabled the noted other failsafes and alarm systems would would've also prevented the dangerous adjustment. Had the operator not noticed. Microsoft to add nation state activity alerts defender microsoft updated. Its microsoft three sixty five roadmap to show it's working on adding the notifications to defender for office three sixty five. It's recent rebrand of office. Three sixty five advanced threat protection. The company began tracking nation state hacking groups and the text the orchestra against microsoft email accounts in two thousand sixteen saying was emailing an average of ten thousand users a year advising of the activity back in two thousand nineteen. These notifications will now live in the microsoft defender for office. Three sixty five dashboard allowing administrators to act on them without waiting for employees to email. Google pay six point. Seven million dollars in bug bounties twenty twenty marked the third consecutive year that google increased bug bounty payouts up three percent to six point. Seven million dollars on the year. The bounties went to six hundred sixty two security. Researchers across sixty two countries chrome vulnerabilities reward program. Handed out the most bounties getting over three hundred bucks emissions and paying two point one million dollars android bug bounties paid out one point seven four million dollars including the first ever android eleven developer preview bonus while google play bugs a kind of two hundred seventy thousand dollars and now a word from our sponsor altitude networks. Remember that time when someone at work accidentally shared a google document to your personal email. Well that happens a lot and it leaves a back door to cloud data for former employees or contractors altitude networks is the only solution that will protect you from this and many other data leak risks a. g. suite an office three sixty five. Check it out at altitude networks dot com and be sure. Your sensitive data isn't shared with the wrong people. A new survey looks at changes. In facial recognition data sets a new paper from mozilla fellow. Deborah raji and us congressional technology fellow genevieve freed looked at one hundred and thirty different facial recognition datasets over several decades to examine how data was collected and labeled the survey found four distinct phases of data sets with data sets from nine hundred sixty four through the mid nineties characterized by relatively small size manual meta data entry and one hundred percent consent images used face to increase size as a nineteen ninety-six. The us department of defense funded the creation of a then large fourteen thousand image set. Although real word accuracy remained low about eighty three percent of images had consent phase three started in two thousand seven and saw companies. Begin descript script the web for images with consent going down to thirty eight percent phase. Four was marked by the use of deep learning auto captioning of images to support. Multi-million image data sets with facebook's deep face leading the charge in two thousand fourteen images and data sets with user consent stood at eight point seven percent myanmar hit with internet. Blackout be reported. Last week about the myanmar military government temporarily suspending facebook access in the country now the monitoring group net blocks internet observatory reports that internet traffic in myanmar felt a sixteen percent of typical usage as the military government is a wider internet blackout prior to the blackout the government temporary blocks on other social networks including twitter and instagram. Don't sleep on motete. This warning comes from microsoft. Who said that. They've seen a dramatic drop in Titi since the button. It infrastructure was disrupted back in january despite this drop microsoft warms at the breadth and scale of operations means that customers should still monitor for and protecting against it. Law enforcement agencies have seized critical emmett see to servers and distributed new update that will effectively uninstall the button at on april twenty fifth. However if trick is lesson good button. It is hard to keep down when the legit app suddenly becomes. Malware google d listed and will proactively disable the popular chrome extension. The great suspender as version seven one debt eight contains an exploit that could let remote code run without a user's knowledge similarly malware bytes reports that the popular android app bar scanner started distributing malware after an update on december fourth causing adds to open in a browser without user interaction. This version was signed by the same certificate as previous versions. Google has removed the after the play store but it will need to be uninstalled from device as well thanks as always for listening to cybersecurity headlines. If you enjoyed this show every weekday you need to be subscribed to see social. Security vendor relationship podcast. This week's episode is entitled. Please accept this. Not a bribe gift as an act of desperation and we'll be digging into the problematic practice of vendors sending money or gift cards in exchange for meetings. How do you handle the situation and impact. How you that vendor going forward be sure to subscribe on your podcast app of choice for the entire discussion. I'm rich traveling. Oh reporting for the sea so series cybersecurity headlines available every weekday had to see so series dot com for the full stories behind the headlines.
That's A Wrap! The 2019 Legislative Session
"This is Florida matters. I'm Robin Sesing ham, the two thousand nineteen state legislative session ended Saturday. The budget includes hundreds of millions of dollars for Everglades, and freshwater springs restoration, and for affordable housing, a large increase in education, funding and help for the hurricane ravaged panhandle, governor to Santa says, we have put people over politics, but politics was still very much in the limelight such as legislation prohibiting local governments from becoming sanctuary cities. In fact, in legislation prohibiting local governments from doing lots of things here to discuss some of the highlights from the session are Janelle Irwin Jin-ll is a reporter for Florida politics. Florida politics is a statewide new media platform covering campaigns elections, government policy, and lobbying in Florida. And she previously reported for the Tampa Bay business journal. Title and in Tallahassee from the studio, W FSU is Steve bus gay a columnist and news analyst for the south Florida. Sun sentinel, and Orlando Sentinel. Thanks, both for being with me. Thanks, much having you. So let me ask you both are so much to get to. But the first thing I want to know from each one of you is, what is one piece of legislation that you think will really have a big impact on our everyday lives on the everyday lives of residents. Giannella ask you, I, I think it's -cation we saw what is a win for some people. And what is very much a loss for other people. If you're either on one side, you're on the other, there's no gray area, and that really comes down to play with the tax dodgers for students to go to private schools. This was an issue that up until this Bill students who were an underperforming schools, from low income families. They could use the McKay tax credit scholarships to go to a private school. But there was about thirteen. Thousand child backlog in. That's so lawmakers sought to fix that by taking money from the actual recurring state revenue, rather than using tax credits. So that's going to pull money from public education. Ostensibly, let me ask you the same thing. Steve something that could affect star everyday lives. I think something they did that will affect the everyday lives of Floridians in ways that are not yet, fully apparent is the Bill. They passed that makes texting while driving a primary offense behind the wheel of a car because let's face it, it is dangerous deadly behavior. Most of us who are honest with ourselves would admit we've done it, and we shouldn't be doing it, and it's probably possibly hopefully a precursor to next year, and the sessions beyond when the legislature may make the law, even stricter, the law and Florida's still a lot less strict than it is in most states, we live in a complete car culture in the state has everyone knows we're behind the wheel of a car, constantly, people are text. And constantly and we're going to start seeing stories about people getting cited on the streets of Florida for texting while driving. And I know there's an argument out there, there will be that police have more important things to do than to cite people for texting while driving. But the politicians in the state he bragging about how the crime rate is at a fifty year low. So police should have time to enforce the traffic laws of the state in a responsible way. The publicity about this and cases popping up all over the state in localities about people being cited for texting while driving is going to bring very important invaluable public attention to this issue. So there's real life. And then there's political theater, we have both. So what do you see Steve, having the biggest ripples in state politics, another way asking, what is some of these bills say about the political makeup of Florida, First of all the ban on sanctuary cities, which is basically, not much more than a bunch of red meat for the Republican party base? There are no sanctuary cities in this. State, and they took out the most draconian parts of that Bill liked severe fines on local elected officials or law enforcement agencies who don't comply. They took that out the other thing they did that so of political, significance is they imposed new restrictions on people who run statewide ballot initiatives to amend the state constitution, and the whole intention of that, whether they admit it publicly or not is to make it more difficult for people like Jon Morgan, who having succeeded with medical marijuana is now going to try to amend the constitution next year to put an effect a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage in the state, and if you talk to progressives anywhere and the state, the thing that they will always tell you about the annual legislative session under a Republican controlled legislature is it's the most dangerous time of the year and people if you're of that political mindset, this time around are saying that this is the worst of the worst and Steve mentioned a couple of great examples. I think the teacher guardian. Issue is another example of that, where you have some pretty staunch opposition from what should be powerful groups teachers unions, things like that. Lots of school districts saying no, we don't want our teachers armed, but yet they put in a provision that says that individual districts can, if they want to opt into this program and go through one hundred and forty four hour training process to have volunteer, teachers actually be armed in the classroom. And that was incredibly controversial. So I think that, that's another point there, where you have the conservative NRA side of things versus the progressive wing that wants to scale back on the amount of guns that we have floating around out there so on home rule. You brought up that the guardian program and local districts will have the opportunity to either implement that or not. They will have the decision to do that. But Steve, you talked a lot about Tallahassee state government versus home rule local rule. And you actually wrote about this and. Together a remarkable list, I'm going to read it now because I think it's great. You wrote this session alone. Lawmakers Republicans mostly were determined to override local regulations on trees plastic. Straws short-term vacation rentals vegetable gardens legal notices impact fees employment screenings telecommunications wetlands memorials monuments, occupational licenses and marketing tobacco products quite a few of those proposals did not become law. Thanks largely to the senate's restraint. So we saw a lot of that state rule versus local rural in this session, Steve sure did. I also said in that column for the Sun-Sentinel that it wasn't very Republican to govern that way, because this creates this sort of octopus, like massive central bureaucracy in Tallahassee that knows the right thing to do for everybody. I don't know what happened to the wise. As conservative idea that the government that governs best is that level of government closest to the people tax payers. People citizens of this country. No, I think inherently that you basically got four levels of government that you pay taxes to your city, the county in Florida, the state, and the federal government pretty simple. It seems like with each of those, Greg Asians. The government gets a lot bigger and a lot less responsive and a lot more remote. And in, of course with a dismally unresponsive congress in Washington. So your best chance of having a government that works for you is city hall in wherever temple terrace Fort Lauderdale Jacksonville. And this idea of trampling on local home rule is really a reflection in part of what we're seeing happening all over the country, which is cities are getting bluer, and bluer, and more, liberal, and more democratic at a time when state governments like the one in Florida remain under firm Republican control, so they're philosophically going to very different directions. Let me put it to you, another way, though, these, you started. To say the government that governs best governs locally, and I thought you were going to say governs least, and I do think that if the overriding philosophy in Tallahassee is to limit government, then aren't their actions, consistent with the desire to limit government to limit regulations that ironically, they're using government to limit government, because they're saying to all of these cities. No, you can't impose all of these regulations and all of these rules, willy nilly, the philosophy could be seen as a desire to have less government, you, quote Jose Aleve as saying that uniformity in law is important in trying to bring in businesses to the state, and he is a point. He said he's got thirty cities in his district. And if you're trying to bring a corporation into this date or business into the state, and they have to look at all these different entities in the way they'll be regulated. It's harder than having one uniform rule that they abide by I see the point, but a lot of times the motivation here by. The state legislature is not always for limited or less government. It's to supplant state rules in place of local rules for things. I'm thinking of this thing that I'm still writing about incurring. I'm thinking of this this, this headed thing. They did last year where they passed a law that basically allows people to prevent other people from going onto the beach in Walton county in the panhandle, when the state government enters your life at the local level, they're as apt to get it wrong. They ought to get it right. My feeling is this Robin? I think that people who live in municipality elect, those people to run their city, they pay taxes to that city they can vote, those people out of office every couple of years, and, you know, there ought to be more of a trust, and respect in local government decision making, and there is from Tallahassee. Okay. So I had read that long list of things that they were trying to regulate. But what actually passed locally? The big thing was the straws it. Basically took teeth away from any existing ordinances that banned the use of single use plastic straws and blocked, any future ordinances from being made for the next five years, and the city of Saint Petersburg. Of course, I've heard you guys report on this before has their own ordinance in place in this legislation basically says that they cannot enforce that the whatever finds that would be implemented as a result of that are known so there's that and I just wanna piggyback on something else that, that Steve was talking about with the home rule attacks. And that is that when you're talking about a conservative legislature. They remain at least verbally committed to not attacking home rule the things that we see come up in legislative sessions. And this has been happening for several years. Now it wasn't just this year, the things that we're seeing are exactly the dynamic between conservatism and liberalism, and they are things. That take what's happening in a blue city and implementing their read politics from Tallahassee into that city government. So it really is hamstringing years ago. I'm sure folks remember the ban on local law enforcement doing anything about a man who had a backyard gun range feet from where children slept at night. And I mean that's how pervasive at can become and it's really just an inserting in of their differences and political ideology, would like to make a point about Jose. Oh, Leyva does have a logical argument about uniformity. We've got almost five hundred cities and towns and Florida but the answer to that problem is not a one size fits all all knowing state government, the answer to that. And this is a much more difficult proposition as I've lived in this state for a very long time and covered government, politics for a longtime there, too many cities in the state, there are too many little teeny tiny incorporated, communities that people felt they. And why do you incorporate because you want a self-determination you want home rule? You know, do we really need about thirty cities and Pinellas county or Broward County? I don't think so. But that's the system that we have, and the right of those people to govern themselves, I think, should be respected, and not every preemption piece of legislation is controversial. We had the scooter Bill, go through the session, that provides uniform statewide rules about where you can operate an electric scooter, which is becoming increasingly possible as a first mile last mile transit solution. Particularly in places like Tampa. Saint Pete, where you have a lagging transit system in that really helps with that final piece. There aren't too many people saying you've usurped my power locally. How dare you most people were happy to see that legislation go through. Okay. Let's talk a little bit about education. You had mentioned anelle so teachers now will be able to volunteer to train to carry firearms. When I see all these things, I'm assuming that these are going to be signed by governor Rondi Santa's. Let's talk about that a little bit. That's that was apparently much discussed. Well, there's no reason to indicate that governor will not sign. That's team. Supported and so on. So this, this Bill, it doesn't necessarily say, okay, teachers can now do this, if they want to do it because their school districts have to sign off on it, right? And Pinellas county, Hillsborough county. I believe Polk County several counties throughout the state Leon Broward, all those school districts have come forward and said, no, we are not on board with this, and we're not going to participate. Well, it's interesting because they put a lot of time and effort after last year's legislative session and figuring out there guardian programs and they've been training community volunteers to become school guarding. So they already have systems in place. It's kind of odd now for those who are opposed to teachers having guns in the classroom, they should be less worried about what happened this legislative session and more worried about what might happen next legislative session or the one after that or the one after that, because there tends to be these baby steps and last year was a baby step that put ski. School resource officers, for example, in elementary schools that hadn't really been there before. And now it's expanding that even more to say, well, if you're school district, who wants to participate in this program were now giving you the green light that. So there were after parkland after the mass shooting at parkland. We had a task force has been working on, on measures that would help in schools and besides caring firearms. There's also Steve money in that Bill for greater mental health support in the schools. Is that correct? That's right. For the second year in a row, and that's a positive thing. Yeah, but, but here we go again with the with the guardian program. It's voluntary and voluntary means that if sheriff in a school board in one county wanna have this program, they can do it. And if you don't wanna have it, you don't have to do it the interim sheriff in Broward County, Gregory, Tony, who's the guy that Rhonda Santa's put in place after suspending, Scott, Israel came out, recently and said, he's adamantly opposed to putting weapons in the hands of schoolteachers. So in Broward, where you had the parkland tragedy there. There is no consensus that giving guns to teachers makes people safer. Well, there's one place where you have some local rule then still in place. They can decide for themselves. And by the same token, a few other places are going to do this for Baker county. I believe, also up in the north Florida has also said that they would participate, right? I'm Robin sussing him. And you're listening to Florida matters. We're taking a short break, and we'll be right back. This is Florida matters. I'm Robin Sesing him. And we're talking about the just concluded legislative session and Tallahassee. I'm here in the studio with Genucel Irwin journal is a reporter for Florida politics. And then from the studio w FSU in Tallahassee it Steve bus gay Steve is a columnist and news analyst for the sentinel newspapers. So the legislature has approved three new toll roads without any discussion or any local government hearings or citizen input. This was a pet project of the Senate President Bill Galvano of Brayden ten Steve. Can you talk to us a little bit about that? Sure as we speak. Environmental groups are rallying around trying to get Ron to Santa's to veto these roads. I don't think that's going to happen, because this is the number one priority of the Senate president, who was very supportive of Rondo, Santa's agenda, and welcome to Tallahassee one oh one, how things really work, not just stop there. For second because I think that's very interesting because here comes governor Santa's on a platform of really wanting to do things for the environment. And then one of the first things to happen are these toll roads. But as you said, this is the Senate president who really has to work with. It's correct. I don't think these toll roads are going to get vetoed, and my newspapers of editorialized strongly that they should be vetoed. These roads haven't been studied enough, there's not a clear and convincing case that there needed, even though it is true, the so-called heartland Parkway between Polk County and Collier county has been on the drawing board in some manner, or fashion since Jeb Bush, was governor. I think we know something about living in this state, and that is that you cannot build enough lanes of, of asphalt to reduce congestion. And I submit as exhibit A I four across the middle of Florida. It's a terrible terribly congested highway and they're. Pending billions to widen it. But the congestion seems unabated I go to south Florida, a lot and Tampa Bay, and I think the congestion there is getting worse. Orlando's the worst the land is the worst. So if Bill Galvano were were on this discussion he would say that's why we need these roads. But question is, do we need these roads where he's proposing them? He wants to create these rural Carter's that will enliven and rejuvenate, areas of the state that have long been ignored like Seib ring highlands county. Henry county, places like that, because in Galvano vision, the road brings water bring sewer broadband internet infrastructure, all that stuff. And before you know it, you have a thriving community there, but even Rhonda Santa's has expressed unease with the extent to which were becoming more and more reliant on making people reach into their pockets to drive on highway in the state to Dallas there any way that this doesn't go through what obstacles would these roads still have to face. I agree with Steve, I. Don't see this falling victim to the governor's veto pen, I will say, one of the most powerful images that I've seen in this debate was one of those aerial satellite images of the state of Florida at night, and it shows where the light pollution is and the area where this uncoerced Parkway would go through from Tampa, Bay region all the way up to the Georgia state line, most of that area is pitch black. So these are some of the really precious remaining wildlife habitats that exist in Florida and you're going to see this highway go straight through them, and that's going to affect wildlife. You're going to potentially be seeing roadkill. We hear about the Florida panther and south Florida. So I think that that's one of the big concerns among environmentalists. But as for getting vetoed. I just don't see that happening for years. The state has been on a trajectory, where it's been all about the toll road despite the fact that there is data based evidence that shows that adding capacity does not reduce congestion. But after you have these laws in place. You are still going to have to have your task force. You're going to have some sort of committees looking at this. You're gonna have the department of transportation looking at this, I think there's environmentalists that are going to be included on the task force. I just don't see anything happening right away. Of course. Not I've covered transportation for quite some time in the Tampa Bay region. And I can tell you that the only certainty in the transportation world. Is that everything moves, slowly as possible, which I Ron mimics, our current congestion situation here in the Tampa Bay region. But yeah, we won't see anything happen anytime soon. All right. So you're mentioning that environmentalists were adamantly opposed to these toll roads. But there was a lot of good news in this budget for the environment. More than six hundred million dollars for Everglades restoration and springs restoration. Steve, could you outline some of that there's more money for Everglades restoration, for springs, the whole red tide algae issue? That's about six hundred eighty three million. Dollars altogether. This was probably the centerpiece of Rhonda, Santa's wishlist, and that's a step forward. Now, we have to see how well they use that money, and what becomes of an environmental protection and change is an ongoing thing in the state, and he really don't see the results as quickly as we've seen the disasters of a lack of attention to the environment. Like we saw the coastlines last summer, that's the most money that's ever been put into Everglades restoration. It is. And it's going to be incumbent upon the environmental community and local elected officials and us in the news media to watch dog this and make sure the money is spent wisely because the legislatures track record in this area is not very good. There were years when they didn't fund Florida forever. There was the issue with them, not fully funding or implementing, I should say amendment one, which was a twenty fourteen constitutional amendment to protect land and water resources in the state. So other good news for school. Superintendents are very happy about the incr-. Greece and education funding journal. They are there was a pretty substantial increase to education funding two hundred thirty five million dollars extra per people funding. I believe was the number. So that is not unsubstantial, but I still submit to you, that there is a bad taste left in the mouths of public education officials who don't want to see copious amounts of taxpayer funds going to private entities because that is money. The I mean the argument is that these children are struggling, and if the public schools are failing them, they should have the opportunity to go to a school that's not going to fail them. But the problem with that is, you're not going to be able to fix the problems in public schools, when you're not adequately funding it, and when you're taking money away, and putting it into private entities, you're losing out on those revenue art make that argument that when they're getting such a big spending increase for public squad of that is going to charter schools, though, and they operate with extremely less. Oversight. So I mean charter schools, don't get private property taxes. That was the thinking, I think, bef-, but sure putting the money towards the charter schools, because they don't get as other public schools. Do they don't get the property tax money? What about hurricane Michael recovery that also got a big chunk of the budget. Yeah. So two hundred twenty million and total is going for hurricane Michael recovery. That includes there's a tax holiday included in that there's also some recovery efforts for farmers who were affected by the storms things like tax credits on fencing, replacing equipment, things like that. So really good news for the panhandle on that regard. What was another highlight of the legislative session. Steve, one of the highlights of the session was the passage of an implementing Bill for amendment four and this is bad news for a lot of people because there was a long, long debate that didn't end until the last hours of the session, which has to do with what is the definition of all terms of? A sentence that must be completed before a felon. In most cases can have their voting rights restored and the legislature decided all terms, includes fees, and fines imposed by a court and restitution to a victim. Also part of the four corners of court senate's because this involves money and only money, Democrats, the, the ACLU legal women voters are the groups, feel, this is an onerous unfair limitation on amendment fours intent and it's going to create two classes of people, those who can afford to pay their fees and fines, and those who can't, and it's going to result in a lot of people not voting, and it comes down to this, fundamental question of, what did voters intend? We really don't know the answer to that question. But as I pointed out in columns, and opinion pieces the legislature had decades to address this issue and chose not to do so, and so the voters spoke for themselves in the absence of legislative action and by sixty five. Sent they decided that convicted felons except for people convicted of murder and felony, sex, offenses should be able to get their right to vote when they finished all terms of their senate's the languages all terms of a sentence, including parole or probation. And so we're left with this conundrum, whether do the voters really intend for this to include court costs and fines, and fees. Some say, yes, some say no, the other part of this, that's kind of peeling back the layers of the onion a little bit. Is this question of the cycle of poverty criminalising poverty, these are the types of phrases that you hear when you're having these conversations about the amendment for implementation? Bill locally here we have state attorney, Andrew Warren who has worked very hard on issues that make it so that not paying fines and fees doesn't exacerbates a person's financial situation even more than it already is, for example, if you don't pay a speeding ticket, you eventually lose your life. Sense. So this is just kind of a bigger version of that at the state level. That says, if you can't pay your fines, you still can't vote. But if you can you can vote and I think what you're going to see the concern emerging concern come out of this is that white collar crimes those voters are going to be able to restore their rights whereas some of the more repeated drug offenses things like that those are the individuals who are not going to be able to restore their rights, and briefly before we go genera, you had reported that Tampa Bay did very well in this budget, the Tampa Bay area, regional transit authority was one of the region's biggest winners in the budget. Yes. So they got four point eight million dollars in the budget, which was more than what they asked for. They had originally asked, I believe it was two point five million about a million and a half of that is going to go to staff, which was much needed because the legislature regard them in twenty seventeen to make it a regional transit agency. Instead of regional transportation agency and their goal is to coordinate f. Efforts throughout the entire Tampa Bay region to establish transit that works across county lines. So this is money that is geared towards really pushing them in that direction. Although like anything in the legislature of there are some people who think that this is all bunk, and they don't like t- Barda, and they wanted to go away. So it just depends on who you ask that is Janelle Irwin reporter for Florida politics. And from this duty of WFAN Tallahassee. We've been speaking with Steve bus gay columnist and news analyst for the sentinel. Newspapers. Thank you, both for being here. Thanks for having me. That's it for today's show. You can tweet us at Florida matters. Florida matters is a production of w USF public media. The engineer is George goven this week show was produced by Stephanie column beanie, and Steve. Newborn. I'm Robin Sesing ham. Thanks for listening.
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Researchers have found that the key to a good sex life has to include has to include a woman not being tired. It has to be where the woman gets enough sleep to have a good sex life and i have said for years and years before anybody ever thought of doing this story that women do not handle Lack of sleep. Well they don't and it's not a hate thing. It's not a sexist thing. It's just an observing An observation of human nature women are better with With large pain like having a baby and that sort of thing and being sick women are better than men at that but this is just something that men are better than women at is going without sleep. I would i would agree with you. Tj even to the point that there are millions of things that women do better than men dealing with lack of sleep is not one of them in my in my experience. Millions is overstating. Come on a couple of fast pace ace. Tj reagan's alexis tag de raw raw from. This is the ace and tj. Show got a sweet tooth dollar stretch. 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Honestly mail this morning. My heart sank. Because i've been in a similar situation not of the bbb some more. You'll find that you're in the wrong place for an hour and forty five minutes and got nothing out of it and it wasn't like it was my fault. I i called on the phone for an hour on whole china. Talk to someone when i talk to them. That's what they told me to do online. That's what it kept saying to do. When i made the appointment. I picked the reason to make the appointment. A gave me the options of dnv. To go to so. I thought i had done all my homework. Special circumstances relaxed of course would so this is the thing that is Really impressive this part of it. Because i wouldn't have done it. You actually went to the other office that you were supposed to go to and stood in line there. You bet all my. I drove out and i saw line there. I was like do i. Can i just do this another day. Like i have a few more weeks. I can get away with it but i said no. I'm already here. I just said that. I don't like being a procrastinator and we are going to change that today so i stayed in line is one of those situations where i can understand it. You feel i look today's shot anyway so might as well just trying to finish his studies. So don't ruin two more another day. I felt like that. Yeah and then. God bless me. Because i went to the line and i was standing in line and i was not even upset even though starting to get a little angry. But i said it's okay we're gonna get this over with and within ten fifteen minutes those little lady. God bless her comes walking over and say what. Are you here to do honey. I told you follow me. Inch took me right to the desk. 'cause the line that you were in was probably for other things. Oh you see. I kept the positive attitude. Got rewarded and did you have to wear masks the whole time. You're at both of these places. Had to keep your masks on and it was hot and it was cold. Because i wasn't it was in the shade. I was freezing a little bit. You have to wait outside. Don't let you wait inside the dmv now because of covid and they only call like a fifteen minute increments appointment so they were behind an hour in like fifteen minutes bunch of snooty elites out there. You're just knobs about being a little slightly different. Yeah so it's frustrating. You said you went online. Tried to make an appointment for that location. You can't make one online for that location. Yeah they don't take appointment but it doesn't tell you that hey it's walk ins. Only this is where you go everywhere online. It's as you need to make an appointment everywhere online. So that's and that's what i try. I mean trying to get this whole thing has been a whole ordeal because at first they were like. You can't You gotta get your inspection. Did the inspection. And they're like okay. Well now your insurance says that it slops had to call the insurance company. they're like no that's a mistake. We'll send that information over to the dnb so it's been a process but it's finally done. I got new plate so whoever sunday yesterday was right. Because i didn't think they were gonna give me brand new played today. I feel like an have a twenty twenty twenty two sticker on my license plate and that alone is still not up. Dave i put in a new plato. There have a wrench. And i couldn't undo with my fingers screwdriver rob will do it for you. Never over and just as such a good feeling that twenty two to sticker on the. It's the feeling of okay. Check that off the list. I've accomplished that. That was a big weight on your shoulders. You got it handled. That's a huge thing that when you get that done you like okay. Now i can kind of move on with life today. Got to go to court next month. Court gamco speeding tickets for speeding ticket and for the expired plates well rob will put you said he'll put your license plate on and he'll also wash your car. What thank you see. 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The explosion left at least one house with a cracked foundation and it was done legally in a quarry with the explosive tanner. Right which is legal to use. But you don't need ten. Riders part of a gender reveal but people captured with their phones. Here the ground start shaking. We hear this huge boom. We heard this godawful blast. I had pictures fall off. My walls crux dacians of our neighbors. It was ridiculous. I get that it's a big moment for people and they want to celebrate but like safety. I you realty. So we'll all the way i mean. Let's say alexis you're having a gender reveal party and i said to tj. Hey man for their gender veal. Let's do she put us in charge of it. I got some tanna right. The first thing that that's too much no no. The first thing i'm going to say is i'm not coming to a gender reveal party i think there i don't even know what that chemical or whatever is but it sounds dangerous. You shouldn't use the same thing that we had a national story about. The first time. I blew up something at a at a gender reveal party. Tanner right involved. In a couple of these. These people had to know about that. And there's like well we don't even care we're gonna use it. We won't we're going to be in a quarry that might be where they got the idea that guarding thing in a corey you think people would have learned lessons by now after everything that's going on but i think people don't care i think they get so caught up in there in the importance of their gender reveal and making different because they want to go viral. They get so caught up in that that they don't care about going overboard and safety but now they're going to be left with a lawsuit because if if you crack the foundation of somebody's house you're now responsible for that is because our baby is more important than any other baby. So we've got to make this huge. That's crazy so is it. A boy or girl was the blue explosion. Does it say it was a boy was it was it. Yeah it was. A boy is their attorney now. A boy or girl. I can find out if we if we say. There's a crazy piece of video. An uber driver in florida. You know it's gonna be top-shelf this florida woman lunched from the back seat of the uber and attacked the driver biting choking scratching him leaving him bloodied. That's according to the pinellas county sheriff's office michelle stillwell is her name. She was in an uber when suddenly she starts choking the driver deputies say the driver pulled over but still will crawled through on the center console and bit the back of his neck to tear the flesh and leave a bloody wound. Multiple people captured the scene on their phones. It's pretty scary to watch them. Uber driver. I'm jay her herbert drought. Your he's got his hands up. Put my hands on her. Please nothing to deserve this. That's her screaming in the back. She's behind the seat. She's got her forearm wrapped around his throat and she's pulling him back into the she's choking. He has his hands up and people in the window trying to help him and he's saying i've done nothing. I'm just her driver. I don't want to put my hands owner. I saw the story yesterday. And this is the first time i'm seeing the video. And he could have gotten away from her with his hands. Up in the air. I have done in. Aglietta do is kick his door open and then pull away from you. See not strong enough to out to get out of the grip of an old woman. Yeah i think he could have easily gotten out of there when you see the video. But it's like he's afraid to do anything. I no which is terrifying. Why did this even start no matter what the what the explanation is it all starts with. She's great this lady but she finally okay. I'm gonna get out. After some other. Ladies came to his came to his rescue. He kept saying i don when he was saying. I don't want to put my hands on her meeting. I don't wanna hitter. Yeah i love when people say that put put hands on me. What do you mean. Put hands on your like hugging. You know passionately in that in that case justified. Doing anything you need to do to get out of that chokehold. That she's got on him. Her poor hosmer horrible day for the uber driver. Oh he's had plenty of horrible days. I'm going to be honest with you. Didn't he doesn't look. I don't know what does that mean if you saw that guy walking down the street in a in a tank top basketball jersey basketball shorts with a skeleton tattooed on his arm. When you say how are you. Get on this side of the street. This guy's not having a good day. Ason tj You should not keep your eye drops next to this one other product in your medicine cabinet just like i. Don't keep my Preparation h. and toothpaste in the same draw. Because i don't want to brush my teeth with him. Roitman this this. These two products should be separated. Every time we'll tell you what happened with this poor lady when she got a mixed up coming up neck. Tj show plus is available twenty four seven on the tj available at as tj dot com. And the ason. Tj app. We're the tj family radio podcasts streaming video social media online in your email and soon once again. This is the jason tj family to. Okay this is a public service announcement you know. You really have to be careful where you put products when you store them like you. You don't want to mix up one for the other so you keep them separate. That's why we don't keep you know. Liquid plumber in the medicine cabinet. You know a rat poison in the medicine cabinet own d-conn in the bathroom so this lady is experiencing some than our hat experience. Something that was not not so great She lives in redford michigan. And last week she fell asleep with her contact lenses in and she woke up around one. Am with really dry is so. She reached into her purse and got her eyedrops but it wasn't her eyedrops. It was the bottle of fingernail glue instead. I knew that i had to go to the horse. Biddle tried to flush it out but it it was staying shut and her husband called the nine one one so she went to the hospital and they were able to get her eye open and get the contact lens out. They say contact saved her from any serious damage and even though she lost a few lashes. She won't lose her vision. You would have thought that day. That alexis was in here in her eyelash. Extensions were falling out everywhere that she had lost her visions. Macau's winning the nightmare. More a nightmare for regan's they've right they were all over my area. I mean on my desk space about a hundred lashes. One eyelashes cute. You make a wish lord away pile of them a little. It is a bunch of dead spiders. It looked like cousin. It was sitting here shedding naked. Mole rat on my face was disturbing to. Yeah but this lady's okay. Just don't don't keep eyedrops an fingernail glue in in your part. Put them in different pockets. This happened to a real housewives a month ago. Real housewives of salt lake city. She did the exact same thing was talking on the phone. Her eyes were dry. Sushi put in nail glue her. I had to go to the er Do look similar. Well maybe a the easy way to do that is get a like an urn. Ge- marker and orange marker and make one of them really bright orange. So you look at it and go okay caution. Yeah you've gotta be super safe with that don't you. Because right up in your eye. How do you not notice. I mean you're looking. You're literally looking straight at it. How do you not know about. The bottles are about the same problem with both clear. This lady though had awakened in the middle of the night. She's a out of it and that housewife's probably just don stop talking and gossiping and that kind of thing. Not paying attention. I would contacts in her contacts are in. She's awake and she probably can't see very well is dry with the in but that way. I know the reason know that what that housewife was doing. Because that's what mine would be doing talking all housewives. I of course an apparently yeah the real ones when the real ones at home. Yeah i'm gonna be walking around with Glued is this is the act aco so if you hear someone in your house and your guy You may not want to call the cops so quickly if it's a situation like this Woman we have in pennsylvania and she broke in. Somebody's house this coming up back when you're five gene. We'll be here. Twenty four seven with the tj show plus on the act button coming up on today's hangover with riggins live starting at ten eastern on the act j. Button livestream at as tj dot com. And i heart radio cover. Some of my favorite things have happened throughout the week. On the tj show including one star strip club reviews with people seem to really enjoy during this share. Funny podcast. it happens every day plus a lot. More coming up in the hangover. So this Little town in pennsylvania. The police got a call in a report of a naked woman sitting on her neighbor's porch drinking a beer in the middle of the night. So they go in and they investigate and according to the reports the homeowners teenage son and his friends were home she walked into the home Nothing but a blanket. They couldn't get her to leave. She goes upstairs and she gets a corona out of the refrigerator and then just goes and sits down on the porch and starts drinking win. The cops start coming up. She goes into her house. They follow her over there. She finally opens the door. She still naked and then she's got a three year old in the house. That's around naked and come to find out. She is intoxicated and Sis drugs in her system the whole thing so it ended up being a big and welfare. Check on the child and the whole thing Understandably but what. It doesn't say this story doesn't give the detail. But what do we according to acee and tj logic. What do we know for sure about this woman. She's not attract got. That was my home in florida. How many teenage boys are going to have a naked woman walk in the house and just all of a sudden start telling get out get out. She must be terrible. I mean even if they wanted to just sit there and talk to her you know. Just be looking at her. It's naked woman. So she must be. They'd want to prolong that as long as they could just to see it. Attractive naked woman but in this case the immediately yelled. Get out get out. She must not be that great looking. If one of them tried to call the police. It'd be like stop to hang on a second wait a second narc and by the way. That's a shortcoming on the teenage boys. That's that's the point here is that they would not handle the situation properly. They were just trying to use it as an opportunity to stay at making woman although this woman obviously needs some help i'm not thinking i. I'm thinking nerd. Alert coming up on now. Trending with riggins the cavs are here. The cabs are here details about the arrest of one of our pop culture iconic favorites details now trending in less than ten minutes. This is the ace and tj. Show vio- the story. He'll be sharing. The rest of the day are right here right now. This is now trending on the act tj show. Alexa stop laughing. Just it's no. Here's what this and. I'm having a small problem behind the scenes this morning now training in one second. They're laughing at i. I've got upload these videos dropbox and they're four of them three of them upload. One of them won't why because we're out of space in dropbox. I was trying to delete stuff. Because i don't want to buy extra space. Ended up buying extra space after he has spent the last twenty minutes just cursing puffing experts frustrated. It's one more video. Forty five seconds of space. And we'll give you talk but you don't have it so you had to buy. I don't i was trying to be cheap and get around ended up having to buy it anyway. She just bought. The beginning would have been over with me and has got to do something easy. Yeah it's never easy. No nothing is ever easy in my life. Now trending with regan's version of me saying this is a nightmare. You think it's never easy. It sounds pretty easy credit. You're actually very easy. Say yes frustrated. It's funny But we were talking about space x sending four more astronauts to the international space station. It happened just before we started the shot about five forty five eastern out of florida. I think but this is space x in conjunction with nasa space is obviously that company that elon. Musk has why would anybody leave. The great state of florida to go to out of space right to explore. I know but they're in florida but you've never been there before you ever been to space. Do you wanna go see what it's about so never been to compton but i'm not getting on a plane to compton. How would like to. I'm sorry alexis another. It's where you grew up. But now taco trucks out there. But i mean i don't want to go to gary indiana yummy side. I think it's very cool. I have zero desire to go to space. Zero me i am. Tj reagan's say. I'm all in me to thank you. Alexis i was born. Would they said hey. You wanna go broadcast from space. You like first person in line. That's awesome let's do it. Yeah i don't believe it You guys wouldn't wait until you try to get something to work up there and then when you threw it wouldn't go anywhere because of gravity. That's that's nasa down. Temperance space. Never know what happens is try to punch the control panel different set of circumstances there. Those types of things don't happen and there's somebody there who can fix it sorry. I broke the main computer in the space shuttle. We need a repairman ace app and he couldn't get more storage on his dropbox. Any broke the propellers for whatever the hell is the propellers will space space plane those at alexa. And i say we would like to go and rather than just say. Oh that's a rigorous responds with. Because he doesn't want to go but you wouldn't qualify terrace down stor exactly absolutely yesterday the trailer for the conjuring three hit the internet. It looks absolutely terrifying. I'm not a crazy fan of horror movies. But i have like the conjuring. This movie is the top trending video on youtube this morning. Just the trailer itself and it looks absolutely horrifying. So if you're into that there are allegedly based on true story. Take it for what it's worth Today's national cherry cheesecake day to that. I say no No i wouldn't hit a dog in the boat with a cherry. No thanks no. It's also national day of silence today. Perfect it'll be gp hugh oh. Is that what it's four. Oh very cool then to protest bullying and harassment of lesbian gay bisexual transgender students and those who support them so yeah absolutely is important day. I'm going to have to change up a joke in the week in review in a little bit because i just realized that is not going to be appropriate idea. I just this is throwing a wrench into the plan. And something like god you into that surmount trendy you know by the time of the week in review comes around. I would have been cancelled. I'm ready to let him know pretty quickly. Yeah aches and ronnie stop. Ron ron from the jersey shore. He is currently in custody in los angeles after an alleged domestic violence incident which is really not good because he's already on parole for a previous domestic violence. Incidents says he had this makes at least his third reich thank so but they say his on again off again girlfriend slash. Mother of child is not involved. So maybe somebody else. But he's on parole for a domestic violence incident. There always a bit of a hot. You could see that. From the beginning of the show. ace could get Domestic violence charges on himself. When he's at home and he hits himself in the head with some smashing. I'd like to follow from fleet. Yeah foul complain on myself. That's right we got a madman here me okay. We'll be right there right over. And that is what's now trending so the world famous friday morning weekend blast. That's where we play a bunch of fun songs and hopefully you You sing along and scream and yell and all of that stuff we have that and it's ready to go and we'll do it next. More of the tj show coming up.
The great Easter bunny massacre is fun for the whole family. Baby born with three penises.
"A new zealand town celebrates easter by wiping. Out all the bunnies. A baby has been born with three penises and mariachi bands are staying afloat during the pandemic by playing funerals. These are the weird stories for monday on weird af. Podcast a podcast. You listen with your ears and And you like it. A new zealand town is all about wiping out the bunnies. On easter sunday new zealand hunters of celebrated a return to tradition this past easter over the weekend shooting. Thousands of rabbits shooting thousands of rabbits. Happy easter you. Guys like the bunny. Yeah we do too the shooting the bunnies because they are an introduced species that is threatening the country's bio-diversity as well as agriculture. So there's a reason why they're shooting. The easter bunnies kids as morbid as this sounds. What are they calling this event. Well you guessed it. The great easter bunny hunt where hundreds of hunters gather in a place called. Alexandra central otago in new zealand to make a dent in the regional rabbit population. This is the first time they've had the great easter. Bunny hunt since Since two thousand seventeen the alexandra. Lions club is organized this event for more than twenty five years as both a fundraiser for community projects in a show of support for the local farmers whose lands are blinded by rabbits because they are agricultural pests the ruining farmland. The local farmers are suffering because of these rabbits. There's too many of them. I guess they eat all their carrots in their cabbage and guacamole. I'm just kidding you don't grow guacamole do you guys grow guacamole and new zealand. Holy crap it was also eagerly anticipated as a social event as well so says long time. Attendee dave ramsey. Dave ramsey says that twenty five teams of twelve shooters have traveled from all over the country to take pat this weekend. It's something they look forward to from year to year. Actually it's always been the easter bunny hunt that has a connotation for some people as a time of religious celebration also time for kids but a lot of kids participated in our event. Is that a pretty good new zealand accent. I don't think so. You guys want to cancel me because of my new zealand exit. Be my guest. Go ahead cancel me. Because i did a bad new zealand accent. See if i give a damn free me from the closet after successive cancellations due to in two thousand and eighteen the regional councils k. Five rabbit virus release program an extreme fire risk in two twenty nineteen and the covid in two thousand twenty. The easter bunny hunt. This year was expanded from twenty four hours to two nights this year. That was a bit of a confusing the way they wrote that. But i guess what they're saying is it was canceled in two thousand eighteen cancelled. Twenty nineteen cova cancelled it in two thousand twenty so it was back on this year. By that time. I assume the rabbit population has swelled. It says here between eight. Am on good. friday at noon on sunday. Twelve thousand rabbits were shot. Along with five hundred fifty five possums turkeys and other pesky pesky animals or the turkeys are pesky. How possums pesky are you kidding me. Possums are like the exterminators. The animal kingdom. They will get rid of all your bugs they eat. They get rid of mosquitos roaches. I think you'd have possum. That lived in the dragon. Fruit plant in front of my apartment right under my that thing was a bad s. I assume it was in there to eat all the spiders. That dragon fruit plant was huge and it was basically a spider kingdom in there. Do you guys even know what dragon fruit is. Well i mean. I lived in chinatown so the chinese enjoy dragon fruit. They grow and if your landlord. Apparently they don't share the dragon fruit with you. I don't know why you know. I was hoping they would give me a basket of dragon fruit but no never got it. I wanted to ask them but you know. I don't think they really enjoyed me anyways. That's a tangent. Let's get back to the article about shooting. Rabbits guys good times. Since being introduced to new zealand in the eighteen hundreds rabbits have overrun this area posing a significant threat to biodiversity and the agriculture in the area. They're trying to control these rabbits. That's what this comes from while some would see the hunt as a mass destruction type of thing. The last protest over the bunny bloodshed had been fifteen years ago. it's really recognized. It's a recognize pest. in the area. Though overall and the communities in full support of the great easter bunny massacre a lot of people have them in their veggie gardens. Now believe it or not. he's look i know bunny's acute. It's hard for me to get on board with just massacring twelve thousand rabbits a weekend but i mean i don't know there's just a limit to everything right. Cute cute bunnies you. Love them right. I love bunnies. Oh you play with one. You see one once a year. Maybe now imagine you're just ear inn. Vitamin your environment is filled with bunnies. That might be annoying. So i don't want to judge these people i mean if you can't get to your front door because you've got rabbits all over the place if you can't walk to your car without stepping in copious amounts of rabbits shit then. Yeah i'd be annoyed as well if i couldn't if i went out to my garden or my. Let's say i own a farmland of some sort and i went out there to pick my veggies. And they were all half eaten from cute little bunnies little bunny teeth marks on my stocks of broccoli. I'd be pretty upset. That's my livelihood. So i want to be fair here. I don't wanna judge but man. I do love cute. Little bunnies that being said happy easter. Everybody i hope you had a wonderful weekend. Please don't think of the image of a decapitated bunny right now. Okay if you can try a baby. Born with three penises creates medical history. A baby born with three weeks in iraq is a i in medical history. This baby boy was recently brought to the hospital by his parents after three months of his birth as his parents observed that his scrotum was quite swollen as doctors investigated this little baby. They noticed that he had extraordinary genitalia. One two centimeter member sprouting near the root of his primary penis and yet another one centimeter long long situated under his sack. That's exactly what it says in the article shillong situated under his sack. Here's a quote from the doctor. To the best of our knowledge. This is the first reported. Case with three penises otherwise known as tra failure now. What was more intriguing is that the child hadn't been exposed to drugs while in the womb. Neither did he have any family. History of genetic anomalies as well yet he had three penises much to the amazement of the experts. Luckily the additional fallacies fallacies is infallible the plural of fellas. I'll trust the author of this article. Luckily the addition of fallacies didn't have eureka's the tube that urine passes through. Why is that lucky. Well this allowed the doctors to comfortably operate on the boy. In the formerly try phallic young men was deemed problem free during a follow up appointment so i assume they removed the other two is. It doesn't say doctors have yet to pinpoint the cause of the phallic deformity but they have linked it. To other congenital aberrations such as being born with two scrotum. Or don't you mean why isn't that. The plural of amos's eighty nine isn't the scrotum scrotal. Oh i don't know public school jones. He's trying to get in the way of this article so it doesn't say what the hell they did. I got a second article here. This even shorter. Oh yes in. This one it says the two supernumerary. Penises were surgically removed with no adverse effects so they got rid of it so a major career in porn is out of the question for this young man. I mean he had a future. I tell you right now. Who wouldn't watch this. Get three penises. Who's not watching it. I'm watching that out of curiosity at have to. I mean the things you can do with three penises. you could join the circus. No problem no problem. But i mean i feel like i imagine the onlyfans account of a guy with three penises. Are you kidding me. Just write a check right now. Your home free. You never have to work a day in your life making millions of month because of your three penis onlyfans account so they removed the tube but in doing so. I think they eliminated a cash windfall for this iraqi baby. Just my opinion. It says a someone who has two penises called value. This is actually not as uncommon as you think. Die failure or devalue it occurs around one in every five million births. The try failure is the first ever. Though i ever documented now. Neither one of these articles has a photo of the babies triple member. And i'm not about to go googling baby penis photo and then risk being arrested for my browser history and i advise you not do the same. Just imagine in your head and move on with your life. You like podcasts. You're listening to my podcast. Maybe thought to yourself. I'd like to make a podcast too difficult. No not with anchor. Anchor has free creation tools. That allow you to record. Edit your podcasts from your phone your computer anchor distribute your podcast to apple spotify stitcher and more they have advertising integration. So you can even make a little money off your podcast everything you need to make a podcast in one place. Download the free anchor app or go to anchor dot fm to get started and good luck with your podcast. Good luck with your creation. Good luck with your life. Man mariachi bands have been struggling during the pandemic thankfully. Funerals have kept them afloat. Doing a story about mariachi bands on weird af news jones. Yes as a matter of fact i am. Where else would you hear. A story about mariachi bands working funerals. It says here. The pandemic reshaped many of our industries. Maybe your own industry. You guys put out of work you work. I don't know maybe you work at a movie theater. Maybe you do stand up comedy like me. That's all gone away. i do have some private shows. And if you are in the los angeles area please reach out to me at funny jones on instagram. And maybe get you into one of these private shows and now mariachi bands. They also fall into this category. They've had to reshape their industry. They've had what's called pivot. I really didn't know about this word till the pandemic i've had to because everybody's like oh i just had to pivot i've had to pivot. I've been pivoting pivot to stay afloat like the the most heard sentenced during the pandemic pivot to stay afloat. They gotta survive somehow so they're playing funerals. Typically they're upbeat sounds of trumpets and violence or hurt at birthday parties weddings and all types of celebrations. That are upbeat. You know you guys have heard mariachi bands. Maybe you haven't. I don't know it's a thing in southern california though mostly parties keen siniora's impressed with how pronounced kingston hope. I said it correctly. Yeah i've seen many mariachi bands. Since i moved to southern california and it's always something upbeat and happy. I haven't been too many funerals out here. So but i'd imagine you don't hear mariachi band and a funeral it's very upbeat as they say by the way just as a side note. I've always thought that mariachi bands were pretty important in the world because they seem to be the the one niche music. That has kept the tuba in the accordion in business. Like no other brand of music is using these instruments. They've given up on these instruments. We'll move beyond the tuba now. The occasional high school band they will the whip it out. You'll see it at a parade but stars like actual professional musicians out in the world playing live shows. You know most people are like let's do away with the tuba and the accordion. Well mariachi band like hell. No they are central to our sound. It's a sound you're going to hear funerals now mariachi. Nuevo san diego is a group. That's been playing six funerals a week during the pandemic compared to the typical few each month prior to the pandemic hernandez is a musician in this group and says it's very helpful to see families lose loved ones but noted that playing funerals is what kept some maryetta bands afloat throughout the last year. Here's a quote from him. When you're singing. It's not just singing. You have to interpret the song you have to also feel what you're singing feel it and it does take an emotional toll for me. The hardest part is when i'm and a funeral and it's an open casket. That's that's the end of the quote. This guy man guys in emotional dude foreshore probably gives it his all during the funerals. I'm sure maybe. I'll have a mariachi band at my funeral often. Think about what my funeral will look like you guys ever wonder like what should my funeral look like and you know when you think about that. You often go to the music that will play like you wonder what music is going to play at your funeral and i thought about this long and hard and i think i there's only one answer to that and his rage against the machine. I think you've got to play rage at my funeral. I mean that's just how i want. I just wanna killing in the name of you know anybody else's is this a bit over the top. I dunno everyone's wearing black. It just feels like a raged kind of crowd. Well the good news is hernandez says the getting back to business slowly but surely maze looking good because people are doing the events for cinco de mayo. Celebrating mother's day may is one of the busiest months for mariachi band. So hopefully they're turning a corner. Here i hate to see them have to just keep doing. Those sad funerals just seems and just doesn't seem like a right fit funerals more like i don't know the cure you hire the cure would ever malone with you. You make me feel like i am home again. It's like more like a funeral. Kind of sound overly caffeinated. Clearly i need to put this down. Oh dozen mattew. Chew say just can't stay here every dealer keep on doing out so i guess i should have done an impression of mariachi been but i don't know any. I don't know any mariachi songs. Prompted by panam panam pan am down down down and burning wearing a fire. I feel like that song. Like an impression of america cheese the johnny cash song. All right all right clearly. I'm out of my mind. Just ignore all that. let's get into the altro. what. I call the tro of this episode. Thanks for coming all the way to the end coming all the way to the end okay. Anyways let's mind out of the gutter. Okay i got a lot of people who reached out to me over the weekend on instagram. And that's why. I'm going to give them some love. Yes savannah from boston. Wrote to me love where day of new jersey and love use of anna for reaching out and being from boston. Which is my home. Your home love that water girl. Also a florida man. Wrote me a lovely note. Patrick christopher never trust a florida man and never trust a florida man with two first names as his name. Patrick christopher says. I love your show and i listened to it every day on my commute to work in pinellas county florida. People here are just as crazy as you think jones. My goodness shutout patrick. Christopher with the two first names working in pinellas county. Which as you all know from listening to this podcast is an extremely dangerous county so many of the ridiculous degenerate behavior that i cover them florida. Fridays comes out of pinellas county. Florida never gonna catch me patrick. Christopher with two first names also. I wanna wish happy. Birthday to a listener in belfast. Name nihil brown or it might be neil brown. But i think it's now brown. Whose birthday was yesterday. Easter sunday ella. And nihil both listen to the show quote religiously. Every week. They say florida. Fridays makes their week well. Big shot up to them. I didn't know i had any listeners. In belfast. I think that's really cool. Can i crash on your couch for a week. That'd be pretty fun. Also listen to alexandra who's originally from romania has been listening for three years. Romania that crazy. Oh man it's unbelievable. Also got somebody from morocco name. Your scene shot up till you seen from morocco. I can't believe people all over the world are listening to this. Thing record recorded my closet. This is ridiculous. I do stand up. Comedy for fifteen years gives a shit every these ridiculous stories about babies. Being born with three penises while inside a closet. Next thing you know the the world is listening. So you're seeing says. I enjoy your podcast. It's a nice people in morocco. That borat accent. But i imagine they do i. He's nice. I wanna come to morocco and smoke hookah with you. You've seen that's what i want to do. I also want to go to romania and hang out with alexandra. What would we do in romania. Just sit around the fire and tell stories of dracula. Also michaela who lives in the southern california area wrote to me saying that def leppard motley crue actually coming here to perform in She wants to take me to the show. it's hairband arena. Show baby that's what's up. What's your people to let him. Know that def leppard coming here. It's funny all i did was say. Hey i wonder if deflected tors next thing you know. My inbox filled with tour dates. The plane in englewood. What else. Eric pascua in brazil. Look at that and got a listener in brazil. Who says love your show. Jones e. but your attempts at portuguese terrible. Hey hey at least. I try i try to do. The accents tried some new zealand accent. Here thought i could do the new zealand accent. Just because i've I've seen a bunch of episodes of what was that musical duo flight of the conchords. So just i don't know after seeing episodes of flight of the conchords back in the day. I just felt like i could do a new england. Accent breathe his manager would always do now. He read listen break break. Okay also got somebody listening in long island. Danielle from strong island says florida fridays. On my favorite. Thanks for starting my day with a laugh jones. Thank you danielle from strong island. Love my long island. Girls get that big hair still. He's got that big hair. 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Episode 203: Dont Hack The Water and Black Girls Hack Founder Tennisha Martin
"Each month is security ledger. Podcasts informs and entertains an audience of thousands of technology and information security professionals. If that's sounds like an audience your company's trying to reach consider sponsoring one of our podcasts. Be offer per episode sponsorships of our weekly podcast which feature news and analysis and discussion of the most important cybersecurity topics of the day. Or you can commission a custom podcast to highlight your executives. Researchers and subject matter experts to learn more point your web browser to security ledger dot com slash sponsor. Hello and welcome to the security ledger. Podcast i'm paul roberts editor in chief at the security ledger in this week's episode of the podcast number two hundred three. They're saying in these rooms. I the man like. Hey this is not going to happen in place. That i'm at and i trust their words and their intentions. But like i said. I feel like there's a gap in between them and how people come to them. I feel like the prescreening videos the. Ats on stuff. All of that works with biased. It's just built in to preclude african american women and people from being in there. Everybody decries the lack of diversity in the information security field but as infosec white male complexion above or a feature in our second segment. We're joined by tunisia. Martin the founder of black girls hacked to talk about the many barriers that black women of color face as pursue positions in information security but i an obscure water treatment facility in oldsmar. Florida became ground zero for the united states concerns about foreign adversaries ability to access and control critical infrastructure. This after local officials last week revealed at a news conference that an unknown assailant had remotely access. The facilities skater system and attempted the raise. The levels of the chemical sodium hydroxide in the drinking water by factor. More than one hundred. The attack failed after a worker at the treatment. Plant saw it play out in real time on his terminal and adjusted the sodium hydroxide levels back to normal but closest do count when it comes to critical infrastructure hacks and the oldsmar incident set off a federal investigation as well as a flurry of warnings about the risks facing critical infrastructure systems of all sorts. Now that so many workers are accessing them remotely during the covid pandemic in our first segment. This week we're joined by frank down so the firm blue violent to discuss the oldsmar water system hack and why critical infrastructure firms continue to struggle to protect their environments. My name is frank downs. I'm the director of cracked services at lieutenant. Blue voin is basically an end to end. Subscribe solution for organizations everything from ms s to proactive assessments. Maturity assessments of an organization were able to walk organizations throughout their entire cybersecurity experience from beginning violent. I assess organizations giving them an understanding of their strategic level cyber security readiness or several maturity. If you will. We're here today to talk about the big news at broke up with a news conference down in by the pinellas county sheriff in florida regarding an incident at in oldsmar florida at a water treatment facility. with a cyber intruder apparently remotely accessed critical infrastructure. Industrial control system. Used to treat the water down there and increase the amount of ally poisonous chemical. I what was it. Eleven thousand percenters way too much. Yeah which was basically the equivalent of like pouring drain into the drinking water and then you know walking away not good. I think people were most freaked out by the idea that there was lie in their drinking water. But it's in very small quantities very very very small quantities and and this is part of water treatment. But give me your thoughts on this incident. Well i think it's pretty interesting points out something that we're seeing a lot. In critical infrastructure as well escape a systems a skate of being shorthand for supervisory control and data acquisition systems. These are the types of networks that control things like water plants and say transportation infrastructures such as subways monorails trains as well as things such as gas infrastructure. Now what we mean by that is when you're at home or when you're at work traditionally nine times out of ten. You have an work nick. Next several different computers to make sure business operations occur. Well not everyone has the type of business operation where it's let's keep the lights on. Let's keep the power on. Let's keep the water moving and so force that's where these types of systems come in now when you look at how these things were born in were saying we're looking way back at the forties and fifties for example In sixty s as well. And so on. You had the begin. The birth of these types of systems. Or you had pretty much a central hub. Location and they would control all the different mechanisms that would provide water or provide power and so forth. I'm the example i use. Is you know when you look at if you saw that. Hbo series last year. Chernobyl right they had the big room and all the different systems connected to just that big room. Well it's very similar to how everything was in the past at any power plant or the transportation system nets so forth in an water treatment plants kind of self contained entities. Basically they are and that's the interesting thing they are. They're self contained for a lot of reasons. One these systems perform a very specific job right. The day just needs to make sure the water street didn't go so forth Or you know the gaskets point eight point be and what happened is as you saw the evolution of these systems and personal computing and business computing. At the same time you started to see the integration of both traditional computer systems and the skater in critical infrastructure systems. Now what's interesting is your then in the situation where you have certain systems that have never been connected to the internet for like a thirty years a foreign example all the sudden they're connected right and you have something that wasn't even necessarily built with the idea of the internet in mind and they're connected would you what you've seen the last twenty years the rise of what's called smart skate then. A skater systems. That are connected to the internet to perform. Provide additional functionalities such as remote connectivity for organizations. You don't have to be at essential anymore. You don't have to be the central operation center anymore to ensure which this hackett illustrated right. Yeah to perform actions now. It's interesting in difficult too. Because you're connecting systems. As i mentioned that never necessarily were built to with the idea of being connected to anything else but themselves however now you have these connections to bring them into the twenty first century. Some systems are being brought into the twentieth century better than right Some are built from the ground up. But then you see skated instances where the example uses stuxnet from two thousand ten Timeframe where a weekly reactor Was a centrifuge was taken advantage of through advanced persistent threat. Actor yep uranium richmond facility in iran. Yeah ran correct often when you see a type of attack against some type of skater system it has to be very specifically crafted piece of code right. Because you're talking about working with systems that don't necessarily have internet connectivity as their primary function and you have systems that are one of a kind so ample in will say the centrifugal instance evade probably had to craft something that was specifically coded for the centrifuges. What we saw here in florida was different. What we saw here in florida was something that took advantage of an application that is on many many systems throughout all types of business operations in the world. And that's specifically a program called team. Viewer what team you're allows is it makes remote connectivity incredibly easy You can simply have it installed on one system and another system and from any cysts from one system. You can control another system now. This was being used at in the florida instance. Because there would be remote connectivity from different employees at four th water treatment plant managers for example that would connect and then would do certain water actions if they weren't site or if for example is a problem in. It needed log in and in fact is often by it however it was then in this instance subverted to buy some type of militias actor to then gain access and dump a great deal of lyon there and and would you need to. I would think that you would need to authenticate as a somebody trying to do. A remote session to the system. You're controlling that. That would almost certainly be the case. But i don't. I don't know if that was the case here or there was already a team view recession and therefore he just he just kinda jumped on top of it was the haven't they haven't discussed that. That level of detail so far in does that the technician at i saw that the mouse was moving around inside. Okay we'll someone's promoted into the system as doing things. He thought they thought it was the normal traditional operating however late when the when the technician was actually forming outta actions in the mouse was continuing to move as they knew something was up So what's a profile there. Where do where do we start here. Frank First of all one of the things that that i'm not clear on. I don't think anyone is here as it was team. Viewer actually deployed software or was it. Was it shadow. It was it a tool that was useful especially in these kind of pandemic times as as people were working from home. That basically got rolled out without any official function Or was it sanctioned and monitored by the it group and and so on and and just use you know use within the organization. So i i'm not sure i don't know if you know but i'm not clear to me that it was sanctioned software. Even though clearly was being used i lot. I love that question. Paul because i love whenever anyone brings up shadow. It right because and and by the way. I'll say i don't know but i have my suspicions And i'll tell you i'll tell you why. I think that it was something that was actually permitted by the organization to me and i only say that because they brought it up in the actual release that they've made that fact public leveraging some type of unapproved application and it was some type of shadow it. I wouldn't necessarily want to bring it up right. Yeah it's the fact that they disclose team bureau was the zero vector of attack would suggest that it was sanctioned software. I yeah i would. I would have from it. Yeah but that's not to say that it necessarily wasn't is just way. They grabbed the use of it. In the fact that they released that i'd say probably wasn't sanctioned before it definitely sanction did was probably sanctioned it to say oh yeah so i mean the other so i mean a couple of other things and and i'd be interested in your perspective on us a couple of things first of all You would think you would. You would want some kind of two factor authentication around those team. Viewer sessions again. Just to make sure that it's actually the human associated with your organization who is who is connecting. You know so give you know. Send it to their phone. Or or what have you make them generate a second factor. You know so you know. It's them the other is that You'd think there would be some protocols around remote sessions right so if somebody who is remote needs to drive That there would be almost like you know people in a in a submarine or a bomber. Something sort of saying okay. I'm taking the controls now. you know. Step aside yeah definitely i. I liked that you put Two parts i always love multi factor. Authentication right no no way to do more to get in But it really provides me a level of confidence when i'm working with different clients on on site understanding that they have multi factor authentication. Because i'll tell and i'll be honest. Police saved my bacon more than wants to do it right when i got notification that. Hey here's your code. And i was like i did not just try it to log in to facebook from new york city or wherever. You're nine inmates being his now. I'm gonna change my again. Updating my password. Really got me. The other Two weeks ago or as my last past one and it was like okay. I really need this one to not compromise. Multi factor there. So anyway yes one. And i'm always a definitely phantom multi factor but then i also like that you brought a protocol because we can use protocol in both sense. Both instances here right because clearly. The protocol affiliated with team gear was approved and with the firewall rules. No matter and was allowed to come through so from that level. The protocol was clearly approved whether they knew it or not But also as far as the protocol and maybe governance around it wasn't approved. What what are the mechanisms for eighteen years session to log into logging and remotely control these important water systems Who who has to call who right. Where's the bat phone. Right has has the has things along those lines. And i'm not necessarily necessarily sure that those were in place based upon what we've heard from technician so far when they came in the first time in saw moving around they just assumed right. Yeah maybe not. Maybe that's not good that you just assume you should lower as well like okay that that in of itself is a little worrying because it suggests that people are kind of loosened wild within this organization. You know sometime. You're working in a managers over you know taking control your system to do stuff and it sorta like would that sounds sloppy. Lobbyists restful was right. I'm at any time. And i've worked for those types of organizations where you know a big sticker on top of monitors says use of the system constitutes consent monitoring right very times on those even even though i didn't do anything suspicious. It's like okay. i hope. I'm typing the right keys right. So you guys work with companies. I mean is is team. Viewer these types of an in. There are many of these remote access tools. I mean obviously sit tricks and and you know rtp. And and so on. I mean there are a lot there's a chrome viewer. Google chrome viewer Are is it. is it common that you see. These employed within organizations particularly in sensitive verticals like a critical infrastructure and and how well our company's accounting for the added risk of using them. I would say that yes it will i. It depends on you. Don't see them so much on a small mom and pop organizations because usually it's just a shout down the hall in it shows up right Also my wife works in education and they never do this education. They just have to wait till every third tuesday of the month in the it. Tech is apple's school to them that their ticket will be one of the ones that are town's it advisory committee so yeah but when you when what i've seen it most used in working when companies crossed about the person mark and especially when the type of work that they do is distributed either nationally or internationally across multi site work. And in those instances. You'll see a solution such as this crop off. And you know they're pretty. They're pretty prevalent. Because it gets to the point where it's just not technically feasible or personally feasible. I mean we can't send an it tactile at different sites all the time to do different things right. There has to be this remote access type of solution. Now it whenever i do see it. That's one of the first things that Once i see it back to the top of the list are for assessing the controls surrounding right bay can be if those are subverted. Those can be a very very vicious exploitation however they they've become something that is almost a requisite from organization something that because let's be honest when you're doing. I t it's a lot easier sometimes. Just say here. Let me drive. We'll get this done in five minutes rather than the twenty five minutes. It'll take if i try to do this over. Thought so Yes they are pretty prevalent in the danish that we live in. I think the only become more prevalent. The key is implementing the key to that is implementing them in a smart considerate fashion ensuring they have right controls in place. Totally totally just like everything else And it depends on which one you select and so forth you can enable multi factor authentication right. You can admit you can put in different elements of governance to ensure that they're used certain times in certain places in certain ways all. There's a lot of different ways to keep an eye on this type of activity to make sure that it is for example behavioral of behavioral announces. You're right if you take a look at all the sudden someone's connecting at the same time at nine pm once burma and say when i am when everyone's asleep that's suspicious stuff. I would be really interested in seeing how the system itself was exploited. Just because team gear was the thing that was taking advantage of doesn't necessarily mean it was the application exploited in the first place. So i mean there's been a lot of you know. Ink spilled at the federal level and guidance from cisa and others on to critical infrastructure are verticals and companies around these types of threats This unfortunately makes me feel like maybe those. Those messages are those warnings. Advice haven't really been heated Why do you think that is and what can we do to actually get some of these. you know. small critical infrastructure providers. Don't feel like there a big target. Because they're just little old you know Water treatment plant in some small town to to take the threat seriously What you're starting to see that there's been a shift over last. I'd say especially two to three years within cybersecurity organizations are realizing just because they haven't been hacked doesn't mean they won't be hacked So they're starting to try Take proactive measures right. However the the issue is we still have this problem within cybersecurity where the talent gatt is immense. Paul and i'm talking. It's getting bigger and bigger every day. We've got Several studies out that show on average trying to identify fill cybersecurity. Position can take if you're lucky three to six months to cybersecurity position on your own staff to shore up your capabilities then There is about a fifty fifty chance. That person can actually do the job out the gate without any additional training. Furthermore once you actually have them you have to hope that the other organizations within your industry don't Suddenly just steal them by offering the pay more So it's not so much that these organizations don't know that there's an issue is that they're having a hard time getting the solutions Your backgrounds in intelligence community. What in your mind is is going to be the official responses. I'm i'm guessing. Fbi will be involved in the investigation of this It seems kind of ham fisted. It doesn't seem like a particularly sophisticated to manipulate a water treatment facility but nevertheless They did and so what. What do you think the official response will be. And and do you think any changes at the policy level may result from this I think The fbi getting involved as the appropriate the appropriate organization and agency to do. So i believe they already are involved Because as you mentioned this does seem rather handsome for example. I do not think it was pretty avid. This was not Well okay never gonna say never all right and what a mouse. Moving around yeah. That doesn't sound like smell like a abt attack right those. Att attacks usually don't even know something's happened till it's own points. Solar winds had a really good run there until it was finally caught So i and so as a result. I think especially. The fbi has a lot of experience as far as policy. Goes i think in this. Specific instance the big thing that you'll see. There's definitely be policy changes in florida right. There's clearly gonna be a policy changes in florida As a national change and so forth. I don't know it'll be very interesting. I mean there's a lot of stuff on the lawmakers agendas right now as as you're probably aware Busy is a little concerning because timing. Is everything timing in. This instance is it may fall through the cracks in hope that it doesn't well. I mean one of the challenges we have in. This country is so much of our critical infrastructures privately. Owned and operated and It it is a fairly decentralized system and your that's a great way of putting it because it is and and then you have ciza which is a great agency and Thankfully is getting short up actually announcements that they're going to have more funding and greater investment. And you can and you can hope that they'll that they'll be able to bring everything to the table that they can However i think you're right it is going to be a bit of a herding cats kind of scenario and when you and you bring up of outpoint with so much of this being privately owned sadly in may end up taking the form of nothing will change until the bottom line is really impacted right thing because that means usually in situations like that. The bottom line is only impacted when people get hurt lawsuits or or. I guess maybe regulations but yeah frank. Downs have blue volume. Thank you for coming on and speak to us on security ledger. Podcast thank you. Paul and a blast. We'll stand up next for years. Professionals have decried the lack of diversity in the information security field which even more than high tech in general is dominated by white men at infosec conferences. Concerted effort has been made to give more visibility and voice to women and minorities the dreaded mantles panels made up entirely of men have been targeted and in many cases banished but down in the trenches. Were information hiring. Takes place and information. Security work is done. There is less evidence of change the lack of progress despite a crushing shortage of information security workers in the us and the stated intentions of industry leaders and executives. Mike at you wondering whether cybersecurity is lack of diversity is a bug or a feature of the system. Our next guest suggests that it may be a feature indeed tunisia. Martin is the founder of black girls. Hack a group that looks to promote women of color and cybersecurity in this conversation. Tunisia and i talk about the many large and small obstacles that keep women like herself from pursuing cybersecurity careers from inequalities of the k. through twelve level too pricey certifications and acronyms stuff to job requirements for would be information security professionals. Solving those problems. Nisha says is going to take a lot more than kind words and good intentions from infosec leaders to start off. I asked to nisha to tell us a little bit about her organization. I'm tony martin. The executive director for black girls hack tunisia. Welcome to security ledger. Podcast thank you. I appreciate you guys for having me thrilled to have you. I think the first order businesses is this group you helped establish black girls hack and kind of what your mission is and and what you do. Just tell us a little bit about that group. So as i said. I'm the executive director for blackouts hack. It's a nonprofit organization that set up to help get a black women into sacra security and into the executive suites so we try to provide a mentoring hands on training study groups pretty much anything that we see as a barrier for entry into the sack security field. And how long have you been around. How long is black girls. So blackhawks started out as an instagram page in may of two thousand nineteen And it was just intended to of share resources. Training information about you know how to get into cyber In the it kind of more from there into the staying where you know now we're offering study groups That are instructor led. Were strategically planning different ways. We can interact with corporate partners to be able to provide resources for organizations as well as like hands on skills and classes so we filed our our paperwork for nonprofit in september of last year and we filed the irs papers five one c three in november of last year. So you know at this point. We're just trying to get a more exposure from so that we can get additional partners that can help to fulfill our mission underlying this is obviously a huge diversity problem in the information security field on the despite the fact that the information security field is booming right now and there are a lot of work to be done but and your group addresses basically two big Kind of Diverse problems that infosec one is women and the other is people of color. Lived data on your website. And i accord with what i've read elsewhere. Seven seven and a half percent of information security professionals are african american and only seventeen percent women despite the fact that you know women are fifty. One percent of the population and african americans are are definitely more than seven seven and a half percent of the general population. So so i guess the first question is as your group sees it. What are the sources of that disparity. And what's the best way to to address the one of the biggest issues that we see in the industry today bias so we see those that bias in algorithms. We see it That from like for example the automated talent screening systems and prescreening videos Know there have been studies that have shown that they don't pick up. For example african. we're can micro expressions or features as well as they should so there's a lot of biased developed in these types of system. So you know as as part of the keepers into cybersecurity. You see for example like the automated talents screening systems Which filter through resumes in order to get them to through to the hiring managers. So see we. We do a lot of talks on Blacker tack on a clubhouse in various rooms about the issues that are facing sacked security professionals lack people who are inside security on specifically on wednesday nights we do a talk about women cybersecurity in the issues affecting us and you know there is really no diversity in the hiring sweets you know. People do tend to hire people who are reflective of them themselves So it's like if we get more people of color we get more women of color into to the environments than we can start to make changes so that the next generation of cybersecurity professionals which were trying to prepare are able to to get into the the industry Some of the other issues are for example You see directly into the job requisitions. You know you needing three five years of experience in cis p for an entry level position you now. I'm which doesn't make sense. 'cause cis requires at least five years of professional experience as well as a sponsor so if you are new cybersecurity and you know you ban and maybe a year or you know maybe just starting because you're transitioning from another industry. It's very hard to be able to convince yourself. I'm ticket over some of the like imposter syndrome. Type things to apply for these positions. But then when you have to go through for example like the system in prescreening videos You know it it. Kind of like reducing the number of black faces that you see actually making it through to the job. So i mean i think some of the things that i would like to to see Our changes are more diversity initiatives in organizations to higher If they can do some kind of training programs for example internships. We have literally got probably fifty two hundred people who are entry level maybe one or two years of experience who are looking to supplement the hands on experience with getting through blacks hack And to be able to turn it into some actual work experience So just programs that are set up to pull people like that know from hp or even people who didn't go to hec's like we have a lot of people who are are trying to get into the field and you know the news would have you believe that there's no unemployment in cybersecurity. Okay but z. I think it's something like three million jobs on worldwide that are open as security. I think they said five hundred thousand of those are specifically in the united states. But like i know that. I interface with you. Know hundreds of men and women who are trying to get into cyber security And want the opportunity but just can't find a way to to get their foot in the door so talk just a little bit about who you have on your team at black hack and the the you know the different folks in your organization and Some of the some of the things you've accomplished as just in the last two years sure so one of the most recent Accomplishments that we had is that we came in place in the black and cyber capture. The flag competition That was a a really big deal. That was one of the few. Ct of competitions that. We've played in so you know for us to come in second. I felt like was really big. Big deal We recently just graduated I think somewhere between sixty seventy security plus students from our first cohort who are gearing up to take the security plus exam So we're trying to reach out to various partners to try to help us get them. You know vouchers at three hundred fifty dollars. The security plus is a foundation level exam. But you know that's a big reach for innocent folks who are having a hard time just trying to make a day to day you know Underemployed out of employment. Whatever the situation may be so. We're trying to get like. I said the partners to try to help us on that front We've had our members. Take their hands on skills that they've learned in our our our shops which we offer on meet up into professional jobs One of the squad. I like to call them. our squad. Because they're not really kids. Are you know. They're not all adults But one of them just got hired into fireeye Which i thought was super cool. Yeah so were having our members be able to be able to articulate themselves. The work they're doing in our home labs so they can Take those to the hiring manager. So we've also had exposure For tens of students in hackney and half the box in getting some hands on penetration testing experience. We've probably had like fifty to seventy students onset of home home lab so they can practice their hands on skills So when we first started You know it was just basically me. And i was doing all the work. Doing all of the workshops. And i was kinda like limited as to what i teach them because i can only teach them what i know and i don't even consider myself you know for example a a cybersecurity sme- i'd say i'm relatively new into the the the industry so you know but as much as i know i wanna give to them. But you know we've recently expanded. I think we have maybe twenty to twenty five Volunteers for the organization now Some of those folks have taken on some of those other workshops so that i can focus more on the strategic planning You know for the organisation moving forward because you know. I feel like we have really great ideas to try to get this execute it professionals into you know these jobs So we just need help so that you and the group's called black girls but of course as you said you you serve women as well i mean what are the age groups. Generally the that year programs reach out to so we've got A people as young as maybe like fourteen or fifteen who joined some of our things in this old as you know. Maybe their fifties Trying yeah mid career folks were trying to get into cybersecurity one of the main things that ties all of these folks together is that they are relatively new to the cyber security field. They see it as a booming industry moving forward and they wanna be able to get into the industry so we provide like i said the hands on skills training as much as we can to squad just so they can be able to Get these skills so that they can be able to articulate them. You know had been working on mock interviews for them And you know doing looking at resumes reviews in lincoln. You know so that we can make sure that they present as the complete package. And they can appropriately articulate. What it is that. They're trying to do confer. Some folks is just an issue of not being confident enough in themselves in their skills to be able to you know say. Hey i've got experience in this. You know i've got fifteen years a project managing experience. You know you have to assume that you have to start from zero just because you're moving from say finance or healthcare Into cybersecurity right. Yeah in some ways. I think the media depiction of cybersecurity work is is probably discouraging. Mister robot type. You know you've got to have like a hoodie and your fingers or like flying over the keyboard and like you know you're kind of savant you know cybersecurity person but of course as you know like the industry needs all different types of skill sets and they're all different types of work right out definitely like my. My husband actually had this conversation with our Our doctor the other day she was He was wearing a black girls have hoodie and she thought it must be like pun or must be something different Because in her mind a hacker was has a negative connotation. You know it wasn't something to be celebrated. It wasn't something to be excited about doing you know. And then when he explained to her what it is that we do you how we operate with permission. How we you know help to make organizations more secure. How we determine vulnerabilities in computer system so that organizations can keep their data safer There she understood that it actually is something to celebrate. It is something That is not You know like you said. Like the hacker the hooded feature In the dark. You know typing away on a little keyboard you know. It's it's something done in the light. So seizure. Can we talk about your path to info security and kind of how you got your start. Because i'm guessing it's probably you know illustrative of you know a path that others might follow so so how'd you get into actually mike Are what led me to start. Black girls hack. I'm so i've been in. It consultant for the dod. For you know. I think probably over fifteen years at this point in doing everything from risks to information assurance quality assurance auditing And started reaching out probably about five years ago not more to might organizations leadership and telling them like. Hey you know. I'm interested in moving into a more Sock security role And i was finding a lot of barriers to entry. You know someone who thinks that we talked about And so they're willing to for example reimburse me for certifications But that's not going to do anything for me. If i'm not being considered for for jobs that are in the cyber security field. I can't tell you how many jobs i've applied to both in within my organization while outside in i do not like it literally crickets. I do not hear anything back And you know just for a little bit of context. I've literally got I think five Masters degrees at this point I have gone to some of the most prestigious schools in the country I'm gonna lemnos of johns hopkins university carnegie mellon university as well as the university of maryland and literally. I cannot get Could not get folks to give me a call back. You know because if it's like hey we wanna see that you've got more hands on experience or hey we've got. We want to see this. You know a lot of the things that i've experienced i've seen firsthand And so i also see that in in the squad as they tell me their stories and what it is. They're trying to do But i feel like they're pretty consistent across the industry But like. I said some things that we can do something about you know we can make people more. Prepare for interviews. We can make people more prepared for hands on tasks that they want you to do to show that you can be able to do the job. We can make people prepared for those types of things. But i can't do anything about the the automated talent spring systems. I can't do anything about like the bias in the industry I've seen some press recently. About how some pretty major organizations Put out publications. That said they didn't think that people from certain schools had the appropriate amount of programming knowledge to be able to compete in their organizations. And i felt like that kinda bias whether it's written or just in the culture of the organization Is part of the problem. You know there's so many things that need to be Looked at you know. Just to increase diversity in cybersecurity And executive suites. And i'm trying to focus on the things that i can. You know. sorry Providing the straining the certifications. The hands on skills The coaching things of that nature But the other things. That i can't do you know i'm not in the the executive suites enforcing companies. I'm not A part of their diversity conversations in about how they go about getting a more more parody in their hiring. You know like you mentioned before In a women represent something like seventeen to twenty percent in the latest. Statistics came out the bureau of labor statistics Whereas we represent fifty one percent of the united states you know why is there not more parody both end in the fee and even higher percentage of people with advanced with college degrees absolutely. I mean the numbers. Get even more absurd when you're looking at that. Yeah i was actually on a call last week with someone who's looking into partnering with our organization And i had One of the people in their company On on the call with me and you know she was saying. Hey i've got a master's degree in cyber security. You know i'm trying to find a job within the organization And i can't get in there so it's good that you're saying that you wanna make changes but you know kind of be the change that you want to see. I mean it seems to me to like you know you mentioned a c. suite and and my guess is these days you know the cease the c. Suite is going to say a lot of right sounding things about the need for diversity within their organizations in their commitment to diversity. But you know as you talk about it would really strikes me is you know. Ultimately it comes down to the decision of that person far below the c. suite. Who's who's sitting across the the interview desk from you and whose decision it is basically. What kind of quote unquote candidate. They're looking for And that a lot of the the the knows that that you're getting might be because in their mind you know you don't look like the part you know you don't have a beard. You don't have a sleeve tat. You know you're not wearing a hoodie. Or whatever like whatever. Their mental image is like. You don't fit it regardless of your skills qualifications degrees and all this other stuff right. Yes i i definitely agree i. I think that there's a huge gap in. If i have to tell you exactly what it is in the in the process. I'd say somewhere between the hiring managers and the hr. I absolutely love. Hr not intending to vilify them in any way. But i think that you know from the hiring managers put out what it is they need and then hr ads. Whatever else is required for. You know maybe that industry that role you start to see some of the ridiculous things that we see such as you know. Three to five years of experience for an entry level job and a cis which isn't advanced certification for managers for an entry level jobs. Like you wanna call someone a junior something require. They have a cis. This just seems absolutely ridiculous to me. you know. so they're saying in these rooms. I get them in like. Hey this is not going to happen. In in place that i met and i trust their words in their intentions But like i said. I feel like there's a gap in between them and you know how people come to them. You know i feel like the pre-screening videos the ats stuff you know. All of that works with biased. It's just built in To preclude african american women in people from you know being in there and it's not just an issue that's isolated to just women are just african I think it's anyone who is not the predominant white male Older demographics can you think of like experiences you've had interviews that kind of typify some of the challenges or kind of just the kind of what you're up against as a woman applying for a cybersecurity job and also as a minority playing for cyber scary job. I said some of the things that i've Issues that i've faced you know. Just biasing the types of questions that they ask You know i. I am from washington. Dc so i went to public schools. So you know. We did not have textbooks for everybody in the class. We had maybe thirty people in the class. Fifteen fifteen books right you had to share. We didn't have advanced level. Calculus courses So you know it's it's like you expect once they graduated from. Dc public schools to then go to college and be able to pass you know. I think we had something like maybe six calculus level classes that we had to pass in. It's just like will. How do you expect to be able to succeed win. We're not even getting the same type of pre exposure as as some of our peers. You know and we face those same type of issues in the job you know in the process. You know they're saying hey. Do you have any hands on experience. You know doing this ethic ethical hacking penetration testing. And you know. I i tell folks you know i do not you know. I've literally been in the same place for the past nine years where i've been trying to get into cybersecurity but at this time Captured flag competitions have placed. Well in them taught a whole lot of other people how to get into the industry. But you know like i don't have the hands on experience you know so i'm not getting hired for near those types of jobs at this point. That's why i said. I think i had to pinpoint the point in the process. Where there's a hold up like. I said i think it's between the Hiring managers and then what actually gets put out you know into the job wrecks that make it online be in. I think the other issue and it's not so much their issue as much as it is ours. Is that like. I've noticed that men and women who have similar skills will look at a job rec In a man will say you know. Hey i've got You know maybe fifty percent of these requirements. I'm gonna apply anyway right whereas look the same record the same experience and say hey. I don't meet these. So i'm not even going to bother applying for the job you know we'll say i only i only of eighty percent of these so i shouldn't apply because i don't know one hundred percent of them right exactly and i tell folks all the time especially that if you If you only if you meet one hundred percent of the job requisitions requirements than that is definitely not the job for you. You wanna be able to grow your position you wanna be able to grow within the organization Nba able to add value. So if you come into the job knowing how to do everything you know that the job requires you're going to quickly find yourself hitting the ceiling and just saying hey you know like how am i supposed to grow home. I suppose to gain additional skills. How am supposed to learn from this experience because you've got everything so You know i tell people all the time you know. Hey even if you're only hitting fifty sixty percent of the things especially women go ahead and apply you know go in the worst they can do is say no you know and that's kind of like my my unofficial. Mantra is asked the question put it out there and see if they know you know so many times i got put out requests for things on on twitter for example where i'm saying hey Someone in the squad really just needs to talk to somebody in threat and i'll put a request out and then you know these amazing people who i don't know or reach out to me and say hey send my way you know. Let them ask the questions you know because again we need representation. We need People who that we can ask for directions like you know what's the best thing for me to do specifically wanna go into you know incident response or threat hunting. You know like you know so. We need people to volunteer into to to mentor So that we can have the appropriate direction you know not just people who out here getting every certification in doing all of the degrees in doing everything to try to get into the job and still not getting into manager so We bring up so many good points one one of courses. The is just the problem with k. Through twelve right that that these problems. Like if you don't have top you know if you're not in in a top quality school district then you're already at a disadvantage is going into you know post. You know associates degree a bachelor's degree whatever. You're pursuing gets that much harder if you haven't if you haven't had it in a k. Through twelve the other. That i think is really interesting. I hadn't thought about either was just the financial barriers to some of the certifications that are perceived as being needed to apply for jobs. right that there's this kind of gait gate keeping going on. You know where you need. You know this certificate or it's or it's perceived that you need this pursuit certificate and that's turning people away people who we need right yeah. The definitely definitely agree with that. On the topic of the financial barriers. Like entry level certification like security plus Is on three hundred fifty dollars The the certified ethical hacking which is like one of the more entry level. Certifications is thirteen hundred dollars to take you know so if people are you know they expect you have just foundation a security plus and a A c. h if you're trying to get a junior pen testing job you know we're talking fifteen hundred dollars neo not to mention that the additional cost of having a hands on lab or whatever it is that you had to do to prepare to get there you know. Those are steep hurdles for people to you know have to to get over And then you know as far as the k. Through twelve is concerned I see that as well. You see so many times that you know. People are not look the statistics from the bureau of labor statistics. You see that you know. People who are getting into undergraduate degrees in stem fields are not making it to to the graduate school. they're not actually be working in The industry so i feel like in order for us to get more people into this and i'm looking at the long term not just next year within the next five years You know we're rolling out a black kid tack program This summer which is bas- basically going to be focused on the k. Through twelve population in providing them with an introduction to stop security in- into hacking specifically Because we see that kids who have exposure to stem at an early age are able to make significant contributions from society In black history month. We've been doing all all month. Is you know showing showcasing a black men. Women and children who through early exposure to stem have been able to make significant contributions to society You know some of the things that you probably don't even think about and if these people were just aware that hacking is an option for them. You know that there's no negative connotation that we need people to try to keep organization safe than we would get more people into the field on a long term and then combined with getting more black you know Into the executive suites getting more efforts to organizations. We can start to see over the course of the next generation Changes that you know where we have parody As far as the number of black people in in the industry and the number of women in the industry So that they actually feel you know get there and also feel comfortable being there once their. Yeah because that's not. I mean. I'm sure you've been to information security show like that is not where we look at you. Look at the community. It is not representative of the country. Looks like. I've actually gotten the chance to go to see a lot more conferences this year. That wouldn't have been able to go to otherwise because you know they're typically you know thousand hours so they've been virtual and free which is more right in my price range And so when you look at the people who are up there speaking they're mostly white men. You know you don't see a lot of diversity in there so you know these are people who are influencing the next generation of up and coming hackers and they don't see like i said representation matters. They don't see black women. Black men up there who were giving these talks. And i don't think it's an issue that know. We don't have anything to talk about. You know just tickets Targeted on when they're putting out the the call for papers or the call for speakers We're not included in those types of a bit so recently people have reaching out to me. you know in my position for black girls hacking saying hey can you come and talk here or can you do this and i take every one of those opportunities because i want to be able to tell people about the work that blackout sack is doing In also to get more color into these rooms so that people can see that there are actually black people. Who are doing this you know. I hate to perpetuate like stereotypes. We see people so often in entertainment and in sports But we also wanna see them in insteam. We also want to see them in cybersecurity. Marcus carry marketing. Carey is one of the folks that i follow his in the tribe of hackers And he's a big inspiration to me just because he is one of the people to look up to in the industry. You know we need that kind of of Inspiration the representation to just be able to see people who are like us so that we can. No you know to provide the confidence that we can get in there and do what so you know. There are a lot of cybersecurity companies now. Many of them are very wealthy. What more can they be doing to. I don't even want to say increase diversity but actually concrete. We help the types of folks who are who your your group is helping like what what are. Some things is is it. What types of resources could they help. Bring to bear. That would make your job easier So i would appreciate like faith. Were to for example develop initiatives to increase diversity into cyber for example You know their internship programs that they have set up you know. A lot of these Job rex will say specifically that they wanna see people coming out of hopkins. They wanted to people coming out of carnegie mellon. But what about the people were coming out of the other schools. You know you shouldn't have to be from a school that you probably wouldn't even be able to afford In order to get a job. I've been saying that a lot lately that they want you to come from top institutions and being you know have all of these requirements and you know what about the other people who maybe couldn't afford that but still worked really hard and our dope developers are dope. Packers are dope. You know people so Increasing diversity execute in cyber security also increasing representation You know there is an untapped market. We've literally got hundreds on some of the other black subsequent organizations that i'm familiar with. They also have you know hundreds if not thousands of people who are trying to do things inside security and jess ni opportunities and and the big the big payoff for us as a society. I think also is that it makes us more secure not only because we have more people to do cyber security work but also because you have more and different sets of eyes looking at security problems right. Did that one of the problems with having a totally homogenous population is that you're blind is that you are blinded by you. Know perspectives and and and patterns of thinking. That may cause you to miss important things right. Yeah i agree that like. I said the that that bias that you know. These algorithms are basically learning Learning the behavior just based off of the people on the data. That's being fed to them. That date is representative of the the group of people that are currently in place. You know you don't have any other views you don't have any other perspectives. And i don't even think the people are taking to have bias is really a lot of unconscious bias. That gets bill ten. Um that's now may not even be Intended so You know. I definitely think that you know having more diversity. Even as early as the development of the software development of these algorithms are going to definitely help to improve things moving forward to nisha martin from black girls. Thank you so much for coming on and speaking to us security podcasts. Been great talking to you. You too I appreciate you for having us anytime. You want to have any conversations. Just just let me know. I'm been great conversation absolute.
Ep 105 Finding Peace in a Crisis ft. Joe Walser
"We believe that you are strong by design. And you were made in God's image to have a strong body mind and spirit. You're listening to the number. One strengthen health authority podcasts in the world. So let's get ready to unlock your potential and transform your life in today's episode. Good Morning. Good Day good afternoon. Good evening however you're signing in from this is this. This is the strong bydesign podcast for doing things a little differently today. This is coach Brian. Co-hosts here with the podcast. Welcome to our channel at. This is your first time listening. You're you're in for a good one today. This is a special Easter episode We are actually in my living room. Right now Because obviously things around the world right now are are crazy as you've been seeing over the Internet all over your neighborhood. Things are just crazy right now. We had all intentions of having an special Easter episode In in office with coach Chris and Mike an Arrest of the the trump by design team. But that got squashed so we are doing things a little bit differently. So welcome to our podcast. We've got an incredible episode to you on this Easter. The this is Wednesday before Easter so Happy Easter early Easter Things things are different. Things are really different. I just got notification that our church is not having a traditional Easter Service. It's going to be done online. Which is it's crazy and speaking of Church services special yesterday's Joe. He is actually my neighbor. Two doors down Known this gopher few years since we've moved into the neighborhood love him in his family phenomenal. People always open door policy. They're there for US but they're also there for the entire neighborhood so joe welcome. Thanks for to be here. Thanks Brian so we are sitting plenty of distance between us. We're doing the CDC ask yes. The windows are open. We've got fresh breeze coming in so no contaminants in the air right now but again Joe. Thanks for taking time out of your crazy schedule now. And you're not just the pastor but you're also heavily involved with military so you're doing some tele till the network or remote working and I wouldn't really gonNA share it a lot about what's going on right now. But so your pastor honestly and Easter is the hallmark holiday of. It's the it's the. It's the cornerstone. It's everything about the Christian faith hinges on this holiday. So Joe Real quick share with our audience your background or going from the military to being a pastor and just just warmed the audience introduce yourself. Yeah Brian Idea thank you. It's good to be here. Thank you for inviting me to be a part of it and thank you for your audience and and being able to talk about the Easter message. In what what these times mean for that so really appreciate being a part of it and appreciate you as a neighbor and a friend so thankful for that so I Right out of high school enlisted in the army. I was in the eighty second airborne. Nineteen eighty one to nineteen eighty-four. I did enlistment there Shortly after that I went to the University of Houston majoring in classical studies. 'cause I love the Bible but I had this vision of being a Marine Infantry Officer. So that's exactly what I did. I ended up at the Quantico Virginia For the Marine Corps. I took a commission in the Marine Corps as an infantry officer and And did that for several years and And then God's calling for me to leave the Marine Corps and go to seminary so I attended Dallas theological seminary seminary around. Let's see nineteen ninety five to nineteen ninety nine so that was the period that I was at Dallas and depth. And that's the long made short married five kids Planted some churches in. Ethiopia was a senior pastor in In Nebraska Senior Pastor of New Jersey and then planted a church in Florida and in the meantime while I was planting the Church in Florida Light Bridge Church in Florida The Lord provided an opportunity for me to continue to work for the Department of Defense in the capacity of suicide prevention. And so that's the law store. Compressed into some short time there but but I do work full time for the Department of Defense is a suicide prevention program manager for two star. Command you know ten thousand soldiers roughly and In in in glad to be doing that and love what the Lord has me doing in the calling to passer? So that's the the long story made short. It's that's how we ended up his neighbors planting the church here in Pinellas County. Yeah and I. I don't know why I just thought about it now. But as you're I'm hearing your your bio and I I've known bits and pieces of that that's So I appreciate you sharing that. But you're not only saving the physical life through suicide prevention but you're also save in the spiritual life saving so you're not personally but you're leading careful. I I know I know. I know I totally get that You know I I am humbled debt. That in an I I worked for some of the best people on the planet on the on the Department offensive line. And obviously you know For what it's worth we're GONNA see we're going to see our soldiers who are in the medical field. This is this is. This is obvious. We're going to see them. Do Amazingly heroic things against this enemy cult cove in nineteen in the next month two months three months who knows years sustain particularly in the unit that I served so so helping those families to mitigate in and negotiate what they're facing in fighting an enemy on the battlefield cove in nineteen. So I'm I'm thankful to be a part of that like I said I serve grew people and then the churches is kind of rallying around it. So that's that's that's awesome appreciate again sharing that and so you're seeing you're seeing all different viewpoints from this from the the military side the government side but also from the spiritual side of what the church is facing during this time the Church has this is unique situation of reaching people in a much different capacity as before now where we don't really have a brick and mortar facility anymore. It's a we are becoming the the the soldiers of Christ getting on the ground. The frontlines going to these people getting in front of them on the computer trying to trying to just trying to be be the disciples of Christ getting in these homes as best as we can in sort of like GonNa touch on that a little bit but I wanna make this more of like a a positive hopeful podcast because this this could be someone's Easter service her so joe I would love for you to open up in prayer and then we'll come out. I'll continue the conversation. Yeah awesome so thank you. Lord were we are We are humbled and broken and blessed by the fact that we are called sons and daughters of the living. God because of Christ is done. We start with that. We're we're thankful we bless your name. How would be the name father? We start with appraise of your your glorious grace that you have saved and rescued. Us redeemed this and at the right time introduced us to the person and work of Jesus Christ in through his work on the cross brought into this relationship with you. That is sustaining and encouraging. And we look forward to an turney with you and and in time right now where you have us in this place. We are encouraged that we will never leave us nor forsake us and so as we talk about Easter the power of the resurrection life from day to day with Brian and and and of course the audience. Lord pray that Your Holy Spirit would be at work in US and through us for Your Eternal glory we ask it in Jesus name Amen Man thank you yes so we can't we we. There's just so much going on right now. It really is. It's overwhelming it's I mean just everything is is just crazy It wherever you fall not you job at wherever listener falls on the timeline of events where you might be a well ahead of us in terms of things are. You're you're pretty much in the future if you will or you might not see what we're seeing yet. They're wherever we are. We have very little control of of being the financial bubble. The financial burden of layoffs The stock market. You know savings and all that We have very little control of our physical health as much as we try to stay healthy and wash your hands and sanitize we at the end of the day. We're still prone to disease and virus and contamination We have very little to control of what our neighbor does. We might be doing everything but our neighbor might not be doing anything. So where there's just a lot of uncertainty right now but what there's one thing that is certain And you know what that? It's Jesus Christ so listener. If you I'm asking one thing for me right now listen to the rest of this podcast with an open mind. Don't resist a prompt of your heart. If some if something is stirring inside of you right now acknowledge it be. Oh present to what's going on right now in your life because I know I've had a I've had plenty of time to reassess my life As the not just from a spiritual side but from a community From a communal standpoint. What am I doing with my neighborhood when my doing in our church. What am I doing with my family? We really all do. We really need to be doing what we're doing when all this all the dust settles. How are we going to be different? So please take this these next few moments with an open mind. Ask yourself these questions of what if it gets worse. What if I am faced with death in my in my near future? These are legitimate questions that I don't. I don't WanNA bring all this up to to scare you but these are things. These are hard questions. These are hard situations that ultimately going to have to face if not now definitely down the road because death is inevitable so joe and now. I know as a from a pass three. I'm sure you hear this all the time. Where God yeah? Yeah No. That's a really hard question. It's it's the right question ask I think. I don't think God's afraid a for us to ask the question for your listeners. No matter whether Atta I think I guarantee that's on their mind and even people in the church pastors and where whereas got so. I think that I think one of the things I could start with. Is this while it's Novel to US this idea of an intense pandemic or a a pandemic Emergency is not new to human history. We could go to for example justinian plague where thousands of people were dying every day back just shortly after the death of Christ and then we had the black plague that killed fifty million people in Europe literally. Half of the half of the population in Europe was wiped out at the tune of about ten thousand people a day. Dying so the ebb and flow of history. That Great Depression were one World War Two we. We've seen this ebb and flow where people in the most intense times of suffering the head. Probably that question. It's just for our time. This is the pandemic of our time. What what in the world is going on and it feels new like we never been there because we happen in the grand scope of human history. It's it's not new so I guess I would start with this idea that that they're caught with us. So let me just start with a very hopeful tune a tone here and let me just say I will never leave you. I will never forsake you. That he who began a good work in the day of Christ Jesus Philippians one six will complete until the day of Christ. Jesus God's will the world that he gave His only begotten Son. All those things are true. It's just as the death factor gets in front of us we. We are faced with the reality of death. It's always been there and so we're asking the question. Oh my gosh where am I would death? And on the other side of death and before death and now that it's right in our face we're having to ask these questions And I would say that God is with us. He will never leave us in war forsakes. We believe that all things work together for good for those who love God for those who are called according to his purpose and one of the things that maybe we'll get into here and a little bit I I don't WanNa stretch at answer out to all. I just WanNa say that That he's doing a work in and through this. This is not something that got said. So where's God? This is not God going. Oh my gosh look it's Kovic. Nineteen what am I GONNA do? God is sovereign. He owns everything he is not the author or the Creator of disease but he is sovereign over. And I could speak to that but but I want to say that that God is using it When we for example Romans eight twenty eight all things work together for good for those who love God for those who are called according to his purpose and so i. I'm sure there's another the short answer to your question. Where is God in the middle of the fact of death? The rebellion of mankind brought death and we are dealing with it but God uses it for his good for our good and for his glory and in the middle of this the right question might be a right after whereas God is what is my relationship to gut. Wh Do I have a relationship with God. It's a great question to ask. And how do I get there and and so you know back to you in the sense that the short answer is that God is present? He's at work. He's completing the things. He's designed to complete And and and that's he's working through this I will tell you that that I have a very good friend who son-in-law is On his deathbed and he's a young man and he's healthy and And there's been lots of conversations about these things and what he's been able to say. I don't know where I stand with God. And of course gotta using this to introduce him to the person and work of his son. Jesus Christ in. There's been this sharing of the fact that Jesus died for his sins is Cochrane's death providing power to live. And there's this relationship that's beginning to to come out of this horrible situation in this is life and so God uses it even though he's not the one created it tanner deuce himself to the person and work of. Jesus Christ resurrection power. So thank you so much for listening to the strong BYDESIGN podcast. If you find our show helpful in any way please let us know by leaving a five star review on I tunes. Go too strong by design. Podcasts DOT COM. Your review will help us reach more listeners and continue to change lives. Let's get back to the show. Thanks for sharing that. Yeah yeah it. It's it's still a tough. It's still a tough notion. Took the rest of because it is a supernatural concept Because we're not God. We don't understand God's plan we can't God will not reveal his plan to us. We are part of his plan and whatever his plan is we he commands us to be obedient. Yeah and not in a sense of like you. Better be obedient. This I want you to be obedience with me so I can give you what I promise to give you. But it doesn't make it easy. Yeah because what's going on right now as a as a firm believer in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and he is my rock and my foundation. I still have doubts. I still have questioned. Because I'm sinful this right. It's it's a very difficult time for all of us especially the church because we don't know what's going on here and we people look to us the church as the big the big church as we need to have the answers. Where is the church and so God is here? We might not understand what that means. But if you're if you don't understand that it's okay you don't need to understand that. Just know that and eventually God will reveal himself saying. Hey I M here La yeah. It's really good Brian I could take it like if we're going to just pull back the layers of a conversation about Easter power. What has got doing. What would you communicate? I would say that I could probably. At least we could frame out what does suffering. What is the message and suffering. There is a message. What is the message and suffering and I would say you know That that God is communicating that the real problem. I think this is the right place to land on this. The real problem and this is going to sound weird but but stay with me for a minute. I think the real problem is not cove in nineteen. I think the real problem is not the black plague. I think the real problem is not World War One. I think the real problem is not World War Two. I think the I think the real problem is not just idioms. Play I don. I think the real problem is not SARS or or The Spanish flu. Those are not the real problems they are pointing to ultimately. These external things are pointing to the real problem as an analogy when people are are fighting in a marriage. And they're abusing one another and hurting one another and they come in for counseling. I think everybody will understand this. We always start in a counselling position. The real problem is not the fight that you had. The real problem is not the anger at each other. That you have. The real problem is not the bitterness or the control or the whatever the chaos. It's raining those are symptoms. The real problem in a in a marriage it's struggling as a heart problem and we all struggle with that. I think we can all identify cove. Nineteen is an external problem. All it's really pointing to is a real internal problem which were heartsick. We are were broken and the broken is of humanity extends even to health issues. I had a brother. I just recently the funeral for my for my youngest brother forty seven years old down syndrome. Trisomy twenty one and It was heartbreaking service Just last month right before. All this chaos ensued but but his disease was such a reminder. Isn't the problem it's humanities broken. And so what is the real problem while it's our rebellion for? I mean I'm just going right back to the scriptures what will got communicate and all of this CONAN Romans eight hundred this. Light momentary affliction. This terrible things that we're experiencing is nothing. Compared compared to the weight of glory that he's going to be revealed in US later so what God is really saying the only break that down that that God's intention was this wonderful incredible relationship with human beings and from our own rebellion and he calls it sin. There's been this strife in our hearts and all that has caused whether it's disease wars rooms of order. Famine sickness death. All of those things that have been caused from rebellion are symptomatic of a heart problem. And the real message of Easter is what Jesus said. Believe on me and you will have eternal life. God demonstrates his love for us Romans five eight and while we were centers Christ took our place died for a satisfied the wrath of God. So I I'm not trying to get into Too much the allergy here but what I do want to just point out to is the real problems inside of us and the only vaccine the only vaccine that will work that will conquer death as the hope of Easter. The only vaccine that will conquer death is trusting. Jesus Christ if I could strip it all away and say what is the message of covert nineteen. It would be trust in Jesus. Christ he's the only inoculation from death and happy. My prayer my hope for for my family for me in an ongoing way for your listeners. For you and I and and I do believe that That God is at work through this to point people to his son Outside of that as he's working in our individual lives he's he's he's in control of that but I believe he's calling people to himself and and if we didn't have Easter Sunday resurrection than everything that I would say according to Paul B nonsense. It'd be nonsense. Pulses were were better off not even believing this story of what Jesus did but the fact that he did rise conquered sin and death means that everything he said is is true. So I don't I don't know the every nuance will got us doing. I'm just stripping it down to this reality probably God is calling people to say I have the cure for what the real problem is. His name is Jesus. Christ thank you so much for listening to the strong design podcast. If you're enjoying today show please subscribe. So you don't miss any future episodes. Go too strong by design. Podcast DOT COM. Let's get back to the show. A hopeful message. Yeah it is. It's it is sensitive. Yeah because this is something that not many people WanNa talk about. They WANNA hear A. They don't necessarily want to accept it because it's a hard. Yeah it's a hard topic. Don't WanNa talk about sensitive topics but we have to. Yeah because what you said in we're going to be faced with it regardless Yeah in I remember Real quick and I'll share a quick story with you about Louis trip to Africa That I want my wife and I did I University but The the story of Easter. If if you're not familiar with the story of Easter Joe just spend a minute just giving the cliff notes version of what what the Christian sure Significance in. What actually happened historically on on on that on that holiday. It's I love it. I mean it. There's a lot written about this so Forgive me I'm Gonna I'm GonNa try to again. Quick Note No. I think that Obviously we have in the Bible when we talk about the Bible which is a revelation from God our special revelation from God sixty six books in the Bible. We have thirty nine books in the Old Testament. Twenty seven in the new comprised of the Christian Bible of sixty six books the Old Testament is the the the before the coming of Christ. And it's really an anticipation of the coming in crisis. Telling the stories in all kinds of forms of the coming of a savior who would rescue mankind. Cocker Senate death. Satisfy the wrath of God died for their sins. Isaiah fifty three rise again and bring life to humanity heat. They would be restored to this relationship with gun when Jesus comes. He is telling the story of what? God's intent for mankind is to walk with him to be with him to have a relationship with him. He says with my coming. The kingdom now is is this restoration. There's this beautiful people are following. Jesus he's healing people are saying I have the power of disease I have the power to restore things. I have all the power. There is. And all of the followers are following him and they're anticipating the the final arrival of the Kingdom of God and Jesus is arrested and he's illegally tried and he is literally murdered Put on across the Roman form of execution for a traitor and But he had anticipated that this was going to happen and the Old Testament anticipates as three as an example that this would happen it was looking for two and the one who really put him on across. Was God the Father? Why did he put his son on the cross will he did it because he was going to judge the sin of humanity on the. Cross you would put his on his own sime so that whoever believed in him could have this relationship with God so Jesus mintel store but they're not quite getting it he's crucified. For our sense. He is buried in the Tomb of Joseph of Air Earth Mathiason. He is there for three days on the third day without getting into the details. He he is literally raised. He appears to over five hundred people and he he says this is exactly what I told you what happened. He is raised into heaven. And according to the epistles in the New Testament he is set. Set Down at the right end of the father. He sends the always the significance of the resurrection. They never found a body. The Roman guards You know the head to try to concoct a story. Obviously it was written when we talk about The New Testament documents that are written we have over five thousand New Testament that that that conspire for an absolute ironclad proof that Jesus was raised from the dead so the significance of the resurrection of Christ. Is that everything that God has been saying? In the sixty six books of the Bible you know over. Thousands of years over thousands of years are true absolutely true so the significance of the resurrection is. God has all power. God can bring salvation. He can redeeming can renew. He can heal and the powdery. The resurrection is. Is that the statement that God makes believe. Jesus Christ will be saved is a true statement. We could trust. It can take it to the bank and so we look forward. I think after that first resurrection Sunday. I believe that Christians worshiped on Sunday every day was Easter for them. They were celebrating. I have new life. I have new hope. I'm healed. Why because Jesus rose from the dead and that is proof positive that everything that God has promised me everything that God has told me everything that God is revealing in his word is true. I can take it to the bank You know we have a lot of gurus out. There got a lot of people that we can depend on. Not Trying to find anybody at all. You can look on television some of your talk show host you. Listen TO THE RADIO. Maybe some of your best political analyst. You've listened to them. It doesn't really matter at the end. What what you're trusting that. What they're saying is true but when somebody rises from the dead you go okay. I'M GONNA. I'm putting all my money on what he had to say so. That's the significance of the resurrection. That that it's a demonstration of God's power over even death and that it validates everything that Jesus said And you can see it and change lives with those disciples. They were running for the hills when Jesus was arrested. They were scared they were locked in it was like they were cove in nineteen of the first century. There were locked in their houses. They weren't going anywhere they were talking. They were hiding and then when Jesus appears to them. They're willing to die. You cannot explain that kind of transformation other than oh my. Gosh Jesus is who said he was. He is the son of God. He's the one who provides salvation. He's the way the truth alive. So anyway that's the that's that's that's it and that's what we celebrate and a of days is the day of Jesus rising from the dead being risen and walking in returning back to heaven and that is what we celebrate and that is why we wanted to share this this episode with you looking to win some free critical bench. Swag here's how subscribe to the strong designed podcast on itunes and then visit us on Instagram at the critical bench. To let us know your subscriber be sure to to get. Your free gifts might story that I was mentioned in a little bit ago is backing up a bit. Where how you said you know. We're suffering suffering. Why why do good things happen about bad things happen to good dental and and part of the suffering but if you look at the Crucifixion Story? Yeah Christ suffer a man. He actually suffered worse than any of us will ever suffer. Yeah when I was in Africa For doing some medical missions This is our first year anniversary. My wife and I had a privilege spending two and a half weeks over in Uganda and At that time the L. R. a. The Lord's Resistance Army was wiping out. And You you're familiar with this there. Were wiping out. Hundreds of thousands of people kidnapping children forcing them to enlist and fight us. Army and fight and kill and murder and pillage and rape and do all these things as small children who said they will go in Joseph Kony was the the one who is in charge of you might remember this But we when this was. This was two thousand nine No skis made. I think this is a t two thousand eleven year anniversary. The hopefully my wife is so this was ten years ago and this was very real. You almost could. You'll miss could fuel The presence of the Lord at that time because he did sweep through the nation and start a revival but I remember talking to when individual Jimmy. He was our our kind of our our tribe leader. If you will He was he fought against Elleray Biblically he preached the Gospel. He he fought physically. He remembers having to hide underneath his bed as his house was being burnt and his parents were murdered And he and he shared this story and he says he counts at all as a joy because the Lord was with him the Lord protected him and he says why. If my Christ's suffered who am I to say that I'm not I'm not I? I can't suffer sure so he says my savior suffered. I will suffer whenever when he said it was like wow credible. 'cause WE PRAY IN. America here pray selfish prayer. Sure whether you are right with the Lord or you right you just throw a Hail Mary and say Lord Take It away. Take away this pain. Yep Take Yeah isn't that I'm guilty of it. I said Lord. I can't handle this. I'd when we turn it into Lord. This is not fair this is. This is not supposed to happen. Those those are good on his deep requests Zip but in those times we do need to be mindful of God is with us. He will never leave us or Sega. Es with us his plane is sovereign his plan. Instead of saying Lord. Take this away from me. I've I've pivoted my my thought to say Lord give me the strength to walk through this and I know you're going to be with me along alongside of me. The highway and your glory will be shown one when everything settles and then I'll look back and be like well that's incredible that's incredible because there's been storms has been pandemics in my life that in the in the midst of it I say God doing what's going on. I don't why am I here now? And then through trial and error through Just time I look back and guide. Thank you for being my rock now because if it wasn't for you. I don't know where I would be right now. You're so beautiful so Christ suffered we suffer. Unfortunately it's part of it's part of human history We're GONNA get through this It it is Easter. We celebrate this and this weird time. Yeah wherever you're celebrating Easter. Take a moment. Even if you're you don't celebrate. Easter just recognize that. This is a holding a holy time county for millions upon millions of lives that have gone at our year now and that will come. This is this is what everything hinges upon is the resurrection of Christ man because Jesus is Sovereign Yup. His plan is sovereign. Yep and this little thing we call Cova nineteen reading all this stress and it's causing all the turmoil it will continue to cause us we smile because our savior and if we look up we can't look at the horizon we don't know what's in front of what's going on around us but if we keep our eyes fixed on God and say God you've you've got this and I trust you. We could be sinking in quicksand. But he's right there with a and it's it's an if you don't know what I'm talking about you're probably thinking man crazy it is crazy. This nutty notion. Yeah and even even just the dovetail on what you just said there that that that God has ordained his sovereign over and in the verse that verse that we mentioned up front and I said I might come back to Romans. Eight twenty all things all things all things all things in the inbetween time between the coming of Christ time for the time that he returns this is the promise to hold onto right now and it. It's just exactly what you were saying. Romans eight twenty all things. Everything our hurts. Habits and hangups are broken. Feast Famine Pandemics Disease Wars rumors of wars. All of it all things or to get a for goodwill. What good is that? God is at work transforming us to the of his son so he's not the author of it but he sovereign over it and he is using it to transform us. All things work together for good for those who love for those who are called corners. Purpose pulses the same thing in everything. Give thanks for this is the will of God concern across teasing. That goes back to your story giving. Thanks because we know that God is using hardship and suffering to mold dusk into the person of his son to change us. We all know what it means to discipline to work with our children in such a way in our children. Don't love everything that we've allowed to come into their lives and there's some challenges there but got us got his again using everything to train us up in the way that we should go. And you mentioned obedience. So may God have his way with us? I think we find you. It's not useless suffering. It's used suffering That God is using for for our transformation and for his glory. And I'm I'm praying. You know I also just. It's okay to be afraid. Yeah you know what I mean. I don't want because it's one thing for Christmas step in and say. Oh we've got the answer just just try and I wrestle with. Id to either days. Where I'm like I'm doing and their moments says. Hey I got this and so I totally get where your listeners are. So Oh yeah it's the peace that surpasses all understanding. It's it's they're I don't understand this but also if we put this is biblical to if but in in general sense of wherever we put our attention and our efforts. Yeah that's what we're going to cut a magnetised towards fully believe it for solar. If you're watching the news right now a lot watching it a lot. You're going to be consumed by a lot. You're going to be a lot of bad news lot about news out there. Yeah so I highly encourage you to stop watching the news as much as possible because I don't really want to say this in the most polite way but there's a lot of garbage on the Niger and right now. We don't need any filling our heads with garbage because we know the enemy. That's out there is virus now but there is also a spiritual enemy out there looking to pull us away from anything positive. So it's right if you kinda make the parallel like not saying that. The News is evil. But it's pulling you away it you know it's negative. He's Oh that the news is so full of this and that then why do you keep watching your in the near cycle? And you're depressed worried scared fearful and we do have. That's bad news. We do have the good news of the Gospel as you've been kind of just driving here. The the good news is our resurrection Sunday He's been raised and we're we're going to rejoice in that and We're GONNA find ourselves in the middle of the peace that surpasses owner stance. Real good point. Yes so hopefully. You've spent this past a little bit of time. Trust in thought Consideration of of what all this means These are some heavy questions that you're going to have to face at some point in your life I've never met somebody and I'm sure I'm sure With your lot of work in the suicide suicide Side of things is that nobody is probably ever said. Oh Man I wish I worked more. Oh Man I wish I. I wish I had more savings. I wish I bought this extra car. I wish I. I wish I took those trips or wish. I married this. Nobody says that when they're contemplating death or on forcibly in the path of death. Yeah nobody says those things right because they're going to say like what's going to happen when I die till till my my long lost son that him that I'm so sorry I never calling people. It's amazing the power that death has On the on the rush these are things that come out. Yeah that's in there like you're saying it comes out when we're faced with it which is really all over ninety. We're all GonNa die even before. Nineteen what covering nineteen to your point. Is it puts it in front of us and those things do come out and and the scripture say you're saying this Oh death where's I staying in the last enemy to be conquered? Jesus conquered sin the last enemy to be done away with his death and the only vaccine from death. Jesus if your listeners are contemplating these things as you've said sure they are I would I would have a and I don't mean to make a come to Jesus moment I I would be carefully thanking God. I'm Marianne understand everything. God I'm crying out to you I wanNA know what is what is the significance of your son. Who sent to die? As as we've been talking about for my sins the things my own sense of rebellion. What does it mean? Show me and trust in Christ. Trust in what he's done on the Cross and at that very moment if you can express that just you know just trusting that Jesus died for your sins. That's the moment where you've been vaccinated Chrysler new creation. The paper passed away. Thank you so much for listening to the strong by design. Podcast if you find our show helpful in any way please let us know by leaving a five star review on. I tunes go too strong by design. Podcasts DOT COM. Your review will help us reach listeners and continue to change lives. Let's get back to the show barrel although the vaccination because vaccination doesn't make you immune just prolongs prolongs it but it also gives you a little bit more confidence of saying. Hey I feel it pretty good that I can walk into this this situation but at the same cure. It's not. Yeah that's right it's not a cure. It's it's it's a tool to help you get through and ultimately the the more time In good health you will in the Lord that you're GonNa see things a lot more clearly. Sure that'd be able to use the gifts that you've been given that you might even be in a situation right now. Where you're you're able to give Lot of people that are out of work right now yeah Praise the Lord that were able to do a lot of things remotely Via you know obviously the Internet but even like remo podcast. We're we're still able to deliver good sound information through Through these different mediums. But maybe you're in a position where you are healthy you've got you've got so much so many resources that you're able to distribute to a hurry neighbor or don't make a big donation to a local hospital or someone's mortgage shirts they're scrambling or so if you're in a good situation right now you're saying praise the Lord. Things are looking good for me though share that God has given you those blessings to help others not to hoard but to help. Yeah so please. Take advantage of that and Something simple something simple as just go into your neighbor. And say hey. Is there something I can even offering some prayers? Hey I'm Tom stressed. I'm tired hopeful. What's going on? How can I help you? So wherever you find this this I don't want to say pandemic and or because where it were a WanNa be positive. Let's I want to say with this shift in humanity because This is something that is ultimately going to neutral director new trajectory of of human history It wherever you are right. Now you're gonNA. This is shifting how things are going to be done so stay positive. I'm trying to think of To some some last words before we we call this Shut this thing down but really stay positive. Be Be mindful of those around you. It's okay to be like you said it's okay to be afraid it's okay to have questions But just know that you're not GonNa get all the answers you're looking for now because there are things that you just. You see the reason why we ask. Those questions is because we want to have control. We want to control the situation. If I if I have the resources I can I can do. This is this going to. Is it safe to go to the grocery store? Well that's because you want to control the situation laws doing my thang. Yep It so the the easiest way to release control. I remember one of our passengers. Had this if we tried to hold onto control that Assad listening right now I want you to squeeze your hands together as hard as you can't squeeze him as hard as you can tell your white knuckled. That's you trying to hold onto control It gets tired after a while and your grips. GonNa Start slipping but the second you open your hands and release all your burdens all your stress. All the things that you're trying to control your release those hands upward to God and Saint. God take this burden from me. How Frene do your hands feel? It's so much it's so much more liberating to be walking around without the shackles. whatever shackles may be held. And you doubt dry sin financial strain to be free is there's there's freedom in the surrender saying God. I don't want control of this. So yeah I don't know why that popped into my head but it was definitely a good illustration when yeah trying to control everything but the more you do it. You can't do it anyway so let it go. Put IT in his hands. That's great so whatever you're trying to hold onto right now. You're trying to control release. That control do what you need to do to obviously to stay safe to protect your loved ones but also to prepare for what's next and whether that is a new job relocating because of A loss of a job or a health scare. Or you're at the end of your your your Your epitaph coming up towards the end of your life because you're just getting getting up there in age like we're all going to have to face these big life questions of what. What is the significance of this and again it goes back to Easter Jesus crushing death. Yep and God's saying I'm with you know need exactly there's no need for anything else other than me. I love again. Say That again about the vaccine yet. You know the only thing we everybody's GonNa die that thing that were one more to a famine appendix reminds us of that that's true and we have a temporary vaccine that puts things We may be by a little more time but the only vaccine against death according to the scripture is Jesus and what it did for us on the Cross thank you so much for listening to the strong bydesign podcast. If you're enjoying today show please subscribe so you. Don't miss any future episodes. Go too strong by design. Podcasts DOT COM. Let's get back to the show. We're going to be shutting this down here in just a second but I just wanted to say we love you. Were praying for you. We might not know your your name but we are praying for you and that either That either you come to know the Lord Don't wait that's another thing. There is a sense of urgency right. Now you're seeing a lot of things saying it. You Know Act Act Now. Now is the time From all different avenues of of life. Don't wait there has never You GotTa do. It's never too soon but it can't be too late Because obviously we don't know when our last breath is going to happen regret it. This is my promise. You will not regret making the decision for Jesus Christ. Yeah and if you don't know what that looks like Joe What did you do you contact or is what we don't know what I was. GonNa say that but Yeah obviously they can contact you directly bed. I would say something that just a simple process of how do we do it? So if you're sitting there right now. Brian Great Great Point. How do you bring closure to? How do you get the vaccine? Basically you know you're just in your thoughts you're just thinking right now is we've been talking over the course of of of maybe this last week and the week to come whatever and you're sitting and you're having some time and you're thinking man. I I know that I have something broken in sodomy and that. That's resonating you if you're if you know that's true and the word they that's the. Word Hamad T. Which means send all that really means. Is I'm broken I get it. I'm there's something about me that is missed the mark. I'm off and whether that shows up an anger some of the symptoms of anger dinners vindictiveness. Rat whatever it shows up in all these other ways if you're sitting here right and you're GonNa get it and I want to have a relationship with God then then what we would challenge you to do To receive this vaccine as to trust in Christ to say I believe in Jesus Christ is the son of God and I believe that he died on the cross for me. He took my place. I'm believing I'm trusting that his work is sufficient to restore me to a full relationship with the living God and that moment that we're trusting believing in that all based on his work nothing that we're doing their networks in it the moment that so that's what you would do you believe and trust. Jesus died for me. Rose again all these things. The maumee believe you have this relationship but you might sit down and say God. I don't know how to do this. I've never never done this before. But I'm GonNa pray to you. WanNa pray that you would guide my steps and then and then got an expression you trust your son as I just want you to know. I believe what he did at that moment. You'RE GONNA find you're you're gonNa Find Your Life Different. Your perspective. Your your hopes and joys different. You're gonNA find a transformation starting at that moment and Ford and then I would ask you get plugged into a local community because all of them are online now go you can find him. Now get plugged into a local community or I don't know you have a friend who knows the Lord you know as Brian said we're on a whole new trajectory in the way the church get plugged into a local community so to answer? Bryant's question just trust in Jesus Right now. Right where you're sitting or sometime in the next few moments take a moment just to sit and pray to the Lord. Tell Him I believe. I BELIEVE. I'm trusting in Jesus Christ. I believe exactly what they're talking about that. I need to save your and then I would say get plugged into a community again. We're in this cove in nineteen world online community maybe a keeping your CDC distances in your gathering maybe with a neighbor that you know that knows the Lord or there is again we have all kinds of things now that are available and Alim with that. No I appreciate that and One of one of the best ways that To to take the next step you you're you. You made that decision to trust. Jesus right now You might not even probably thinking all right I really I really don't know what to do. Please contact us or contact Joe. We're going to give life bridge you. I'm getting my personal email. The and they can email me. My personal email is j. walrus-like the mammals. J. W. A. L. R. US four zero at 'EM AC AT MAC DOT COM J. Walrus forty AMAC DOT COM and approaching this from my church which Leiper church approaching it to somebody that loves you and cares deeply for you and Struggles with fear and anxiety myself Have Family Members? We all do and know exactly where what it means to be facing these things into looking into both eternity and what what's going on in life right now and so. I would be more than happy to either Find an outreach. Or referral for someone to help get navigate or answer questions And just guide you to wherever it is that you need to be for for helping in moving through this and so it's really not about my church or or another church it's really about. We love you and we wanna see you Come face to face with the power of Easter. Which is the resurrection of Jesus Christ? Yeah and obviously where we're here to to let for you to let us know if there's a way we can help you along your journey of life We can pray for you. So drops comment leave us a A rating or review On this podcast on itunes or you can feel free to reach out to us on facebook on Youtube instagram. We're all over the place you if you WANNA get hold of us you will so Please engage with either us here. It's by design or with Joe Yeah so we. We were praying that you have incredible Easter. Whatever that may look like with you normally for us. It's Easter egg hunt since Easter Service. It's a lot it's A. It's a joyous Holloway Q. Oh it's a full blown out event. It's biggest event of our year Look forward to it every year but this year it's going to be totally different. Yeah so I mean even eggs. I was joking with my wife. She said Hey. Are we going to color eggs this year? I'm like I don't know because eggs her gotta eat so God and so. That's what we're trying to make light of all this right now because We have to wait for negative if we all always saying negative negative things are going to happen so we're trying to stay positive and we occurred to stay positive as well Be The light in this dark time right now. If you have the light in your possession you WanNa light up as much darkness as possible and bring people to the truth so we encourage you to do that and as always thank you for listening. Thank you for taking time out of your your day. I know you're stuck at home Yeah hopefully you're abiding by the CDC rules and still at and trying to get the curve flat and a little bit but again. Thank you for listening. Check back with US next week as we upload another incredible episode every Wednesday at six. Am WE DROP. A new episode But yeah again Joe. Thank you so much greater breath. Thank you thank you and God bless you all and have incredible happy east. 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38.#EmpowHER: Sistahood w. Shaquira
"Hey. is key era and thanks for tuning in to another episode of for ruinous Sake y'all. I am too excited about this week's kissed. Her name was Shakira and she is ever Burr Bang. Shakira is the founder and the CEO of a nonprofit Organisation for girls called Growth Talk. Girl Talk Provis adolescent girls with opportunity to become change agents of tomorrow. She creates a safe space to instil self-confidence, education and life skills to empower encourage and motivate positive changes for their future. Now in this episode we are giving you four easy steps to build your own sisterhood. Now I know. It's not always easy being friends and trust me. We've had our own share of friendship blunders, but let me tell you when you build your sister with the right sisters, and your group chatters. Popping in your communication is flowing in the growth between all of you is mutual. Hwu, that's like I. Say because we love to see. After that this episode helps you build your own sisterhood and just remember. If it was so easy, everybody would do it. You got this. Get two girls. A. Girl give a little bit who you are just introduce yourself to us. Whenever Start so I'm Shakira. I am the founder and CEO Chief Empowerment Officer for Girls Talk. One on one inc. Yes, find us at girl talk on the William I or I suffer later is okay anyway outside that my passions are public health, equity, work, and just empowering girls and young women. So that's why I'm a sister. A, friend, loyal also about their life so a. Balanced. God is dope. Let's be very clear about bad. And I, currently working HIV work, so other hustle is empowering girls women, so I'm excited to be here. Tell us about the HIV work real quick so row quick is a project, zero Pinellas in Pinellas County and oversees accounting project to reduce new HIV infection, specifically high risk populations, so are black populations are msn are Lgbtq and what we WANNA do is reduce race and bring awareness education, and also reduce stigmas, so people know their status, so get tested if you haven't Ooh. She's smart. So Shakira, tell me you know what was one of the best experiences. Even the first experience that you've had with the black woman that fell empowering Ooh you said black woman so before our mind and I'm like. Okay, you don't have to be. First and foremost my mother grandma. On. Hang me I did not commission them first and foremost, so thank Y'all for teaching me poise, resilience love, confidence and And being examples of that, so shut out to them because that is my foundation. But outside of that and the the rural world, it was in third grade, and it was my third grade teacher, Miss Canals and to this day like I wonder what I lady is, because she really made me feel value and seem and I was a black kid and gifted, so it was three of us of a four classroom as always unfortunately, but we gotta do better about that. She was patient with me. I. Remember her taking. I can't remember all the details which is taking time to like talk to me when I need to be talked to reprimand me when I needed to be because I was not. Always the greatest but I was April student and she just it was really patient and made me feel. Dieting knew that it was okay to be a smart young black girl, so I appreciate it, and then empower me kind of set the bar for my teachers, because I've only liked like three other ones out of her so. Yeah that part go ahead. I said the same thing when I when I sat and thought about it I was like my teacher was my third grade teacher to Miss Campbell so. Third Grade. Pivot. Life right here. Yes, shelter, and it was the other lady because I. Don't want to limit you in your power way. Oh that was. Throwing intercessory. If we to do a black woman. I mean we're only just. Black everybody play. I will say this pioneer. She is the catalysts to why girl talk is here. I am why we not doing it. But we are not. To say it's. A real horrendous ache she is yes, she is the reason why girls hockey is whether it is because I came to her with an epiphany and a vision and she believed in me. And allow me to take you on a really flourish and grow into this day I work with her annually on our annual conference. Eleven years later, so I am forever grateful dead I. That's my second my love she. Dow. Bush out to her and we are definitely going to go more into girl. Talk in my later because that is something that I'm excited, about can't wait for it to just be popping. Tempers World, so we go get into that. To do. Too much work to do at this point. So. How do you define empowerment because I know that parliament can seem different to everyone, and it is different depending on what stage you're in So what is right now? What isn't empowerment? Look like to you. So the reason why I'm not just the CEO of girl, talk and I consider myself the chief empowerment officer, because when you're doing the work that I'm doing is important that your consistently bringing love lie, and positively to disable, but empowerment to me is just giving that love lie in positivity, being that supportive ear or support of hand believe in in other divisions and knowing that is. Is Not just about shoo sell taking the time to be selfless because you're not, you're not always sure what others knees, but you show up when necessary so that's most important to me when it comes to empowerment, just being there showing up, and whether that's listening over the best giving advice, but making a person feel like they can, or they will this. Yeah, that's impairment. It. And I have one more question for you I. WanNa Know How you empower others but I think I wanna wait because I feel like girl target. My has a lot to do with that so would jump into that later, but just what everything that you've already said I feel like super exciting right now and we're here to talk about sisterhood. Yossi the title Y'all know what it is. We WanNa to talk about building our sisterhood, and I think you can't talk about women empowerment, especially black women, empowerment, and not mention our our family. You know that family for a lot of black people extents with. Their blood, sometimes it excludes their blood depending on the situation. And so. And so when I think about empowerment I have to think about the women who support me and who I in turn support in how that sort of. Lifts me up in encouraged me to keep going, but I didn't always have a sisterhood. At least I didn't feel like I. Did I sort of felt like I was a? Friend of the friend of the friend. You know what I mean like I was friends with. Multiple girls, but none of them were all friends with each other, so it's like I. was that person? And I found myself being more on the encouraging them and I really receiving a lot that encouragement return property girl yes. Yes, you know my therapist. But anyway. So when I thought about empowerment, and how is motivated me over the past few years? Especially right now I thought well. How do I stay empowered? How do I stay motivated? How do I stay inspired? And if it wasn't for the girls who backed me I wouldn't even be doing this podcast what I mean? PRAGERU chessel. Thank God but a group Chat Woo. They. See it okay. We're here at all at least. Where you want to start it, so I wanNA. Start at the top of first of all. What does a sisterhood looked like to you? And then we're going to tell them how they can build their own sister. Sisterhood to me you when I know people who listening and now we're. GonNa rely. Okay, what did you say ou? Because I am a member of the Sorority I'm involved I. Do this work like so. There are so many different levels sisterhood to me in different circles Emma part of that I consider sister who even meet sisters a sisters. I. So I would define it as ooh. The ability to empower other women TO RECIPROCATE ENERGY TO BE A. France at. A shoulder to lean on. Someone that you can vent to a safe space, a supportive space where I can really authentically N. be myself. in who you can be transparent with, but who also isn't afraid to check you when you need to be or at least come to you and let you know like okay well. You did way said that could have been better 'cause i. mean sometimes you know that's me but. I think that that is is necessary in. It's I. Think it's. Sometimes overlooked on how important it is in our lives, especially as black women when you go into work places, and you deal with that, and you come home or you, a wife or girlfriend? Are you a mother? That sisterhood is keeps US grounded in. That is so important especially when it's authentic and it's just like. A. SISTER WHO to sell important I I. Don't know why would be with my sister. Who is because they are? The glue that holds together sometimes when I can't hold myself together, so shot y'all I came this because I'm listening for that, but. You know you know and it's just that on. To Miami for me. All right of them. Okay so I agree with everything you said about the sisterhood, and I just want to run down and talking about four things that we collaborate on to say this is what if you're going to have a sisterhood? This is what you need now. We'll say the reason why I know what you need to. Because there was a lot of times where I wasn't getting You know what I'm saying like straight up. It's like every step that we have that. We wrote down. It's like I have an example of why. We're not going to be to bed. You know if the old friends listening. You know what I'm saying but this. Listener girl does why they work out between you and me. Neither. Okay, so let's get into it all right so number one and if you want to build a sisterhood. I say you have to literally be a friend like you can't be out here with staying phase. Thinking that you know girl just been a to you. Know, you have to be a friend to get a free. You have to show yourself friendly. You have to put yourself you know sometimes in those awkward situations to meet someone that you don't know and so that's what I think. What do you think so disclaim will start? Week, even if a real for real mistake at been excuse me. Okay, I have been the loyal transmitter optimistic for him, but I have also sometimes been the. Can we hear you kickers? It'd be chief ran as well. GotTa axe, but I've learned and grown, and I always continue to try to be a better friend. A better sister those around me, so I'm start saying that because I've experienced I've also done, so it's been on. Both sides as well but reciprocity. It takes a friend to be a friend. Keith Sim introduces it. Off. I. Think it's important to know who you're rocking. and. Pay attention to patterns like I can't stress that enough like. Pathogen patterns because patterns will show you. People are like words are one thing, but patterns lead to actions, and that will show you. person is so. You can't have expectations of someone if you're not willing to do those same things for them, so like I talked about earlier like. France France Will Gingrich Y'all any prey on is light, Lison, one up, or whatever and I can do the same and know that they're doing exactly that or if it's just showing up in supporting you know my friends who are am entering new businesses or endeavors or celebrating life celebrating graduations whatever it is like. We're GONNA show up for each other in, do our. Our best to do so, but we are also understanding that trials and tribulations and like just happens that sometimes you can't be physically present arm or in the moment, so I think is important, just remember reciprocity, and then not to have a realistic expectation so one another, so as not like like you gotta be everything I have every burt. They no girl graduation. We got law got lives were not college anymore. You know I have commitment. You have a job, you know. I don't have a man or a puppy, but I got other stuff to do so sometimes things happen think when you set realistic expectations. At least a you fill in some type of way or hurt in the situation and sometimes it it can cause a conflict for no reason. I think so I. Think is important to like. Be Mindful that people have other things going on and that the world does not revolve around. You beautifully said we talk about the reciprocity. I think about my therapist told me she said that she treats her friendships like a business transaction, not in the sense where you know is very cold and in no. Personality or wonder, but just in the sense. Where if you're giving something, you should be getting something in return. It doesn't have to be the same thing if I give you fifty dollars I don't. You don't have to give me fifty dollars bag. You know, but it's like. We should be putting in the same amount of effort into the friendship, and I think where things went wrong for me lot of times as I felt like. I was putting in maybe too much and then other times. Maybe I wasn't putting in enough and so it became unbalanced in a friendship. It is important to have that sort of. I think as a part of the relationship you WanNa feel like you're not being used. To fill important and care for in that relationship. So I think as beautiful. You said that. Have you ever found yourself giving more than you're getting a relationship or vice versa? On relationships or we're talking about? Branding even advances. I'm trying said seeing I think. ooh, okay so I'm just Kinda me okay so I guess so. Sometimes because I WANNA see everybody, win I will go not above and beyond, but just the extra step to support for another person's endeavors or business or share like what's going on in their life, and that's what Adam asking because. I want I wanted to brag on my friends like I want to support you like I. WanNa see you win and sometimes not reciprocate it. You know and I've had to realize like okay. Some people don't know what your expectations is. Is Four support, so it's okay to ask for support so I don't feel some type away about it. Blaze also like I'm looking at patterns. I shouldn't have to ask you every time either at the same time like if I told you once then you should figure all right. This kind of rule of thumb for it so it caused. You like just Kinda. valuate people like you say what value they bring and what value you bring into them. That's equally yoked. So that's important. Come I E. Oh, God is. Yes he is, and that brings us to the next thing so with being open and being a friend and showing yourself friendly. There's a bit of vulnerability that comes with that I think that transparency in your relationship with your girlfriends, and even in your course you're wrong. Antic relationships you have to be vulnerable. You can't grow in your relationship if you're not willing to be transparent about what you have going on how you're growing especially, if you have friends like me since high school, it's like girl. You know we not a high school anymore. I'm a new me, okay? Change on me baby up addition okay, so grow with me and be vulnerable at me and be able to communicate what your new knees are friendships good? You know what I'm saying. That you gotta say about. Like okay several thoughts, but I will start with that. You know I call us and a lot. He will stay strong France, but I call us tough friend, so being a tough ran this the tough topic. because. I think I. have grown into becoming more vulnerable more transparent in Spanish just might have been a little too blunt, but Oh, I've grown into being more open to allowing others and into the instrument parts of me. Parts of things that are going on in my life so I will start with seeing like it. Extra help and support 'cause twenty nine top like it is okay. you gotta put the whirling obey, not when you got a sisterhood and a tribe and people will, you can reach out to so shut out of Yahoo beholding down because. Yes. But to that point about vulnerability, I think we talked about this. A little bit of Fran recently reached out to me and asks me What is it that she could do to be a better friend? And what do I need from her? And at first it was off putting because I was like. Nobody's ever asked this before like. We're not in a relationship romantically. This is just a little weird, but like you said friendships are just important to have these type of conversations or at least to know. Have a sense of what that person needs and how you can be better addition to their life, so we had a conversation and she kind of talks about like you know quality time is really important to her. I talked about how loyalty and like you know, authencity is important to me and just having that allow our friendships grow like just a step up like you know for her. Even take the time to do that and this is my I've met with him like the last year ish over my life's. Okay grew. Even for every shot because I'm not. GonNa Listen To. Me Hey gro. Yes I think that was the moment of vulnerability on her part, and then me, allowing in being receptive of that allowing that turn and so transparent moment for the both of us. Oh! Wow to hurt and I, I would agree and say yeah, that is of. Me Because even I see on facebook all the Times where they talk about friendships in the negative way like I'm not Joe Man. You know you talk to you about stuff like this. Well, girlfriends, we go to each others birthdays. We raise kids again. We there for each other. Why wouldn't we check in that way and say like? Hey, these things are changing for. What does it look like for you? But those are the people who'd be like we have friends like. Thing. I do because I can't do female on. What can we please? Go off. For a person and a woman, a black woman, Lois break it all the way down. To say that she doesn't meet other women in her life houses, says you hurt her. You need to heal. Pleased to heal because you need because there is so many things that men do experience that women do that. Need a sisterhood and trap, or if you're one of those you listening, you think you can do all by dams. Sorry, it's yourself. From your professional so I think it's. It's time for you to do a reality. Check for you to get in the mirror to understand that it doesn't have to be a slew of France and you. Know, but if you can find at least one or two solid people who can help you through things, or who can just bring the energy to you like other women, we can talk about like from physical changes, so relationships think job everything like. What would I do without my group Chaz I'm GonNa? Just say that like I. Appreciate them so much and I think it's also kind of like. What you think you're GONNA get from men, having relationships and friendships with men. Only that is going to outweigh what you would get from a woman who is experiencing some of the same things in life. Hello nothing to have mill France. homeboys way. No, it's it's different. Relationship in Qena had different than if you can't asses, get into the AM. I WANNA use. The old church were alive what they used to stay back in the day I think it is unseemly. Some about this without okay. I think that you have to have girlfriends. If you're like, there's no way at. Lea- Mary's is, and there are some things that I have tried to explain to my husband just on some like like Disney type do and it's like. It's not gonNA. Get it won't get it and trying to get it, and we'll send me out the door, so as like I can't imagine having a home. We're trying to explain to him light. Bro, this going on did do you be cramped? No really look that. Way Girl everything so says get you some friends like security he'll. He'll figure out what the is because there is a route to net somewhere along the line. Somebody hurt you, okay. Maybe you didn't see the friendships that your Mama. have her friends. Maybe they in right. Somebody stole somebody Magar. We don't know, but we do know. Is You need some girl? That hard, so let's let's work on this list. Grow from that. ALATHEA. Because that was a one that was. Always see that and I was really be looking at my okay. It's always younger girls do I notice is. If it's a defense mechanism to protect yourself from being hurt as well so maybe it's not Po. A trauma has already happened, but maybe just a defense mechanism from what they've seen so yeah, do we gotta do better and? Yeah All right so number three. Girl Roku simple. Don't be a hater. Be a motivator in your friendships. Go here secure. So okay for this one I put be supportive and when I say that I mean be genuine, be supportive, and I want to start with saying that everyone's journey is different. So, you may not get that big bonus or that that career that you want in the moment in a friend may be experiencing that for the first time in their lives show up to support and celebrate them. Like just because you were going through. Your own issue does not mean you can't be happy for others because when you are guys. I don't know how much you could bring it in, but he's dopes drinking in this. Political folks there will. Only list. Get Your Jesus. Baby but. No I think it's really important that you know women understand. Everybody's journey looks different because self-criticism. Is. The chief of joys what I call it because. If you allow that to get you, it will relieve caused you to see things from a bitter lands, and you don't WanNa, be bitter person who's fake. Happy for your finance like you Wanna be happy for them. Live this. You felt that to the chess. Okay. We'll take it easy I. Get to. going. That is it is and even when it comes to just life events, you know from childbirth marriage relationships like we hold ourselves to such high standards as women and then we throw these timelines on things which I try to sell people including myself yourself You can't do that because everything is in God's timing, you have to be patient with yourself like I literally talked about this today and was like grow. You're doing good, you focus. Focus you've been working your doing amazing. Sweetie like I have to remind myself to be patient with myself. Because sometimes you see yourself doing things by certain time or at a certain level of success, and it may not happen when you want it. Only you look at to happen but it'll be right all time, so please when it comes to that. Be Happy and supportive of your friends like 'cause. We're all boss, a women you know. We all have it in to become that even if you aren't there yet, or you may have started later in the race is not even races. Be Clear about that. Because you'll finish on does not like my Spanish lines. But also to that point. We'll wait. Say because I feel like you watch the good stuff. I gotTA come clean. I have to be very honest right now because it's keeping a roofer ruined the say and. I was a hater. Frey okay I was. Out At all, but I'm different now you're. When I was young. What was? It was like. Who still showed up what it was I knew I showed up I was. beat me. Old. But I had to go through that and what I realized was y'all don't hate me. I have to be a blessing. We're appreciate you keeping. It S girl, but what I realized, was I was a happy, and it was like I was a huge compare of persons, so that raised to speak about AFLA. Everybody was just like Britain you, saying lightning bolt like gone and I was like at the starting line with dumbbells on the back of my ankles, like going so slow, and so when I seen other people progressing it like made me question myself like What am I not doing like I'm I? Pray you know what I'm saying. You know you start going through. The list are pointing. I'm praying I'm doing this. I'm following what I feel like I need to be doing. Why isn't this stuff happening for me? So then when I see my friends doing stuff you know winning and I put them in. because. That's what it was for me at that time. It was hard for me to accept, and so it was like I wanted to like I hated it like I hated that I. was that person, but it's the true like I was like. I WANNA. Be You know I'm a show up because that's my friend, but I wanna be I wanNA. Be here, 'cause 'cause my life. Don't let light this right now and his hard for me to accept that, but whoo girl. Thank offer delivery. They love growth okay. But I would not be me if I did not tell that I was a hater friend, and for those Yahoo I would never hate Think about this when you see a fram pulse like Oh, just got engaged you like it or whatever, but you never really liked really like it. You just do out of the courtesy of so slowly. or The laws of being that person, or even when you see a friend, who just may have gotten a scholarship or the money or something like a party line show where you really need when he like on check yourself. You don't know what that person East and West for them as for them, but sometimes, I, as you were talking just now, what came to me? Is that like a person may be winning and white air you, but you do not know where they lose Zach. Be Happy got peace of mind, and they might got the dream job that they got a miserable all outdoors like. Please know that you don't know everything. A person's dealing with what may look good to you or may look appeasing that you're attracted to. You. Also don't know what prices are. Sacrifices is taken to keep that exactly, and it always goes back to me like. Like it didn't matter what they were doing. It goes back to me. I was unfulfilled. Happy you know not in touch with WHO I was, so it's like when you aren't touching. You're not aware of your own feelings. Those things can in other ways. Now you see someone graduating from college like hang, but since you haven't started, how can you graduate? You haven't even started. So, it's like instead of addressing those feelings I was projecting those feelings, and so as a woman who has gone through therapy, and has become very aware of myself. academic that with you know no. No, shame, that's what it was. What was period but I'm not like that no more y'all grew. That's a blessing. All are growing. If you're not growing them baby, you're stagnant segment. Okay, we're not doing it today I wish I could say hey, y'all. She is over here. Really clear the Foams, okay. Is Important and I'm self chick. Yes because I, find myself. We keep for roof of a room estate to that point, and it may not lead to the point of like rough like I'm hating on a person, but the self comparison to where I might Can I be a hundred happy for that person when they're attaining something that I want most tours, you know, so. Yes, I'm happy that they're doing it and I can learn from their journey bullet. Ration-. I feel like. I also hate it I. Hate to see is. The village seats available. Yes I think about that. Because we girl talk I've been doing this for. Eleven years and I'm not where I want to be so when I see sometimes people coming out of the gate and getting it like immediately is kind of like well, I mean yeah, like what am I doing wrong, or what am I not doing But now I just can't change that and do a self check like all right. That's fuel to the fire light. List Giddy. You've got work to do, but understand is not gonNA look like that. What you're doing is already to coordinate has plans I'll keep it going this. Is that on that and that's dead on that sort of four. See A. You read for the four stances some work game here, but we hear you WanNa tell what it is. Conflict Resolution. ooh, I'm coming to you woman a one. Name his name, Barbara and surely. I was go and. The same bobber certainly beat a Kelly. Do Monte campaign. Want to Brandy 'cause scrooge. Okay Congress Thirty. Years, Sisterhood Yeah. And foremost! I am still working on this. The Lord is still doing you know you know. I mean to the point where something literally happened today and I was like. Oh God. You're working out free. She ate it, but you're working. I'm excited you know. I think it made me think to what you said earlier about like people accepting the growing you because I've responded to certain things differently, but in the past few months about things I remember in my group and it was like. That was done with such poise mature. We see growing over all right trying. Please know city girl is still. She's there and even those toxic trace their you know. Their, but you work, but I'm working. Full Conflict Resolution I. I will say that it takes self reflection work in understanding. Yes, those around you in of yourself just to do like a is an ongoing process especially when it comes to your close. Relationships your friendships and people that you value it. Gets tough. It gets tough in East Street. Sometimes just something small can blow up to be something so be. As women, we all have feelings and emotions, even if you're the re or the impact I, you know, it doesn't matter, so I think is important to look at it. Wedding was use with the Lens of love. To love, not pay very. Maybe. She's there and we can get patty. Best and I think that's what happens in when we have those sort of arguments with our girls, it's like okay, 'cause. I'm heard so now you could say you know it could be something super small, but now all of a sudden. We talk about okay girl because last time seventeen years ago on this day. You said this in our now we talk about. Why you minimal. Land now. We talk about each other's Mama's like girl. was really going on I. Think when you have a friendship and you're you know you're comfortable in that friendship. You're growing you WANNA keep the friendship, because let's be real. Some friendships don't need to to last. That is actually snip. SNIP is appropriate, sometimes y'all could just be man. It's just like okay. I want on your own and then three days later lights this. Let's talk about you know what I'm saying, but I think that when you have those sorts of real friendships that you WANNA keep as important to address whatever the issue is. And then move on and not keep bringing A. Faster yes, please take your time. It'd be mad. I am not the one to sit here and tell y'all. We just gotta by that Amy. That's not cure cure who social a real quick be feel bad about it afterwards and then come back and be lay okay. You know. I ain't gonNA and the moment I'm learning to admit you know when wrong or at least come to terms with things usually take. Khakis today I gave it to. Really bad split. Mea France close rangeland home. For about. Nine years. Now. A good friend of my head got into it and I. Don't remember the details you know stuff happening. You kinda let it go and be like all right whatever you forget the of why he was mad and what had happened in a moment, but we got until altercation about something, and I. In the moment I did know how my words or actions whereas triggering to her. A blowing up to something you know not be but to argument and just kind of like staying their relationship. In as I was working and thinking about this today today this. Probably October of last year. Oh, because at first I was like well. What was what was wrong? What did I do I? Do you know Kim images being me and that's how I knew what was I. Okay Guy, you'd be working you growing me. was working on thinking about today, and I sent her a Texan was I. I don't remember the details of the altercation. Learn back the. We didn't stop being friends or met Oh. Kinda just brushed it under the rug. But you know like you said it'll get brought up until years a member you. Time it so. Today I got rats, my spirit to reach out and apologize and I didn't remember the details and. You're not K I. Don't remember all the details of what happened, but I don't even remember if I formally apologized for my part that I played in miss and I know that it in the moment, it was triggering to use apologize and I hope that you've who from whatever it was that you were going through. But I value our friendship and help that you know. Things are smooth with before and she was like. Wow, you know I. really really appreciate it. Thank you so much like friendship. As will you know in a moment you know? She was struggling with it, but she chose to forgive me because she knew that everybody grows at their own rate, so shot up a real France. That was blue Hiney. So you know of course afterwards. I was all right. I thought he. Because, that's just me being me like we ain't got wallet this right now, but yes, that go crown. Conflict resolution with love. Keep keeping in mind the foundation of the friendship, and what it means to you, and how today's will help you to get through some of those conversations and those uncomfortable moments. So I think that it's important. We always keep that in mind for sure But yeah. It made me author reflect on his that. For us, a tough slash strong, France, who always my given tough over who are always like those blood instead of point France that every situation as an require that and I'm learning and growing to know that sometimes you know. Your approach has to be more compassionate and more empathetic, depending on what the situation is, and the person because some people aren't as receptive of that self love in honestly i. i WanNa see my. There's probably have taught me that also. They swear I might chime cell too often. I Mean them shut up. Shut up a six, but. I'm not I am a very blunt and to the point person, but also I'm gonNA. Tell you what you need to hear. Let delivery is important so I'm working on and I understand that more, but also I'm GonNa. Keep it highness outlets very clear about that, too. I'M NOT GONNA call you. but I am going to be more receptive of how you're filling in your perspective, but also in tune with your emotions in the moment I'm so I think that's importer and it takes it takes grow for sure and just. Learning Person Learning Yourself for sure so yeah. For sure when you're trying to resolve something as well. It's important to ask that person if they're ready to receive whatever information about to give them. Especially if if I'm the person with the issue. I could be. This issue could be you know festering in my mind I'm Lau next time I see how I'm a let her know what I'm saying but I? Don't know what sort of week she's had or whatever's going on so I'm coming her rush strong Shapiro. What's up? You know you said this this and that and we need to talk about it, but you could have just went through. You know having a flat tire. You man some happening at the job and so I need to ask like. Like. Hey I have a problem like. Is this a good time? For as you know just just to make sure that we're in the same space to have that conversation because I think that's part of it, too. If we're talking I don't know what you're going through, and I'm coming at you. Row term that could be another reason why the friendship doesn't work long run because like this girl can't buy me she. You know that's how my day was going I know. He just broke up with girls. Them for. You now I try to be conscious of that like hey, how are you like? Let me check him. Before our country will be like. Before we address late and. We need to talk about. No harm come is so let me just read. Read. That's a good point like. Checking, in for for bringing a and and please I. Don't know gotTa say this for your listeners because I would hate to think that they do this. We own social media to handle aiming. Hana! please. Take. Don't be subliminal tweeting and Twitter fingers now we know. Sister. Who is addressing? Okay? This is a person because we're not doing it. This is I gotta be honest. No, no okay to say. I don't even have a twitter I'm working on it. had to say that the reason why I know that it's important to sort of Come to that like hey, how're you doing type deal? Because I had a really good friend for a long time, and we're like not friends anymore like at all and it's been. it's been like I want to say three years almost since last spoke to her and I. Like over the years. I've had time to kind of process both sides I still don't feel like you know saying. I was entirely wrong, but at say, but at the same time I am willing to admit whatever you know. My faults were I was younger at the time and I I don't. Don't WANNA use my youth as an excuse, but began twenty four and trying to figure it out is a whole different thing from being twenty eight, and in a whole another space, so it's like a lot of growth took place, but with that I learned like okay. I didn't I didn't handle that right because even when it was time for us to talk, I chose to send her email. INSTEAD OF CALLING Weight Year grow. This was this losing two thousand sixteen falls around well. The thing about it is, is she? Let Me Talk Oh, okay. Guess I was like because I got tired of being cut off, so I was just in her email recorded. It didn't turn out too well. With that, because even words can be taken a different. Name the call you addressed. It is and that's what I meant. When you said like social media I'm like yet because you can be reading and one way, and both of us are super spicy with our words. You know what I'm saying, so it was like Oh, she probably could have read it like this and I really didn't mean that. And I'm not taking away from says because she definitely has some problems but the helping listening, Ogre Ogre is do we would? Do if she is listening to hey girl. You could call I got to save that Burr, but it's like it's cool, but. But it's like I ll that relationship taught me so much about friendship, even in us, not being friends anymore. I like that was like my first real like adult sort of fight with a friend, and ever since then I have like vow to be a better friend because I didn't want to grind experienced. Happens. Right. But the thing, sometimes things can't be avoidable, but then they happen for res Ex. You wouldn't have that to tell share today. and. That's why I mean because it was like. Yeah, the relationship like Woo. It was a lot of stuff that we probably like the relationship was already low key. Going down, you know. On the titanic. Is Birthday got, he added his point exactly, but from that I learned to be more vocal. Learn to be more vulnerable and transparent. Learn how to communicate my feelings of what I need it in. And if if I if that one happened I, don't think I I. Don't know if I ever would have gotten to that point. You know what I mean. Yeah, so we tell you about the sisterhood in in why these four steps are so important because we've been through in I. Don't wish the journey on anybody, but I'm so grateful for it because I know how to be a friend now and I know what I need now I didn't know that before. Yes, so what? You said my last point. Make sure they're in the right space. Have the conversation in, but also don't let things fester like speak your piece. Yeah, it too much time over between addressing something not be not the right time hammer coming up with these excuses. Oh, it's not really a fighter like Oh, we'll be fine, but you don't know how. The conversation even if it's small I, you know like hey. I didn't realize you saw me when you did at one time. Like okay cool. I accept that my bed and we're moving on, you know. and. Truly move on. You know how with. Girl not to do with today. Because you know, know we do, we'll make a joke. Oh! Do because you know last time they. GotTa your feelings. That's. Why we? Think, we find me. I'm actually planning. A hilarious. Yes yeah, it takes work so girl. They're being said toast us a little bit more about girl talk. Right so girl talk is my baby. That is my child. That is my dream work my passion, word my everything. Is I feel like is a continuous birth, if that makes sense it, because it has those contractions, those pains, those growing pains, the sickness sometimes, and then just that feeling the butterflies and excitement so Ooh I. Live there. Okay, yeah, Girl Grace Smiling! So. And it's funny like someone recently telling me like when I talk about girls, I light up like that is. It's thing, so basically is a person on professional development organization. For young girls I started I started doing the work when I was a high school so ahead in the Piff, any I went to all girls high school to like go to our counselor who I spoke about earlier. Miss P. and say like Hey, what can I do to like? Bring us together to have like. Like, just girl talk like we are all experiencing all these different issues, but nobody's talking about it or we're only talking about it in our clicks, like how can address on a larger scale? Really talk about confidence and self esteem how important it is to help us to navigate through life, and this is all at the Tim Young Age of whatever you are eleventh. Grade sixteen. Something enzyme from there. It grew so to see the impact that it had on my peers in high school I decided like okay. This is something I want to continue to do. Because it made me feel good to see other people being open and transparent, but to also being open to learning new life skills, but the same them kind of like come down to like tears in just like telling their truth in like learning about people that you normally would have not talk to, because that's just wasn't in your click so from there I begin to get a vision to continue the work and our values became knowledge, life, skills and self esteem. Esteem and confidence because I think those four will carry you as a girl woman throughout life flight to be the best you that you can be so what we want to do is encourage and empower young girls with the skill sets, and with the self worth self esteem to be the next changes of life right now to be the best versions of them as women into really have impact on other women, and so now that we can wear a crown, and that it's okay to fix others crowns. ooh, while also still adjusting your own So that's what we do, so we do that through a workshops and curriculum that we offer to. Local organizations will also work with organization in Miami. Dade County so that's Ron Brown. Who through five? That's where my my foundation started with everything, but now working on brings you now We'll talk about that later. But yes, so we also yes GS eight one three. we also have annual conference and this is day conference where the girls it's for high school girls. They get out of schools the field trip. And they're they're all day. Eight thousand three learning different themes, and workshops I have a self guided committee of high school. Girls helped with the planning, and they get a leadership opportunity, but it's I tell you all the time what you're doing. Work and community work any no, whatever fashion it's. You want to hear from them and get input from them like our high school. For a long time right now so I can't think about the issues that they need and want to hear about so I have input from other high school girls to help guide me on this journey with that slobbering in different professional speakers who may be experts on certain topics were just maybe public speakers to talk about different things they're women 'em in all different walks of life. Come in and talk to the girls, but we also do some self reflection workshops, so these are. Really, identify like what makes you a better friend? And what have you done or experience from other France so that you can take ownership for your actions, but also create boundaries when necessary so we do a lot of a work around that and really identify like okay I've been bullied before because my way so has she and she in like okay. We have that in common now. How do we address that in? How do we? We more, you know it shows you that you're not alone. And the things that you experienced go through life, and that more than likely there's another woman who has been through the same exact. Oh, being open to that and not judging a book by its cover. You know so I think that that is really really important so would the workshops and the annual conference, and then there is you know myself I try to. Insert myself into opportunities and spaces to be a voice for other women. In a you know a person who supports them and their vision Sa-, like on Social Media Hey soc me France again like who been connected with, and you know built those relationships and stuff I think although my main focus is on young girls as I bring and more women into this circle sisterhood, those are now resources. I can share with the girls who are impact, so that's really what you know. I'm getting out of that by building. Those relationships when it comes girl talk, but then also just building new relationships so. That's my baby enough for profit. We are always looking for finding sources. That out hero talk one on one dot org. Number, one and your instagram. Yes, instagram at will talk one on one M, a somewhere instagram facebook and then we have our website and we're always looking for people to volunteer speakers Donations grants all of the above. Because it's it's endless work, but it selfless work, and yeah. Actually this will be our January. Twelfth Conference. And there yeah oh Lee. County but I. Did the numbers recently the C- like what our impact is being. We've had over a little bit over sixteen hundred girls at ten. That is A. Man. That's like my humble baby humbles. We actually because the see how much growth I've experienced by sport, but the growth ineffective tat on other girls and this will be our fourth year of giving out our book scholarships, so we do a scholarship for seniors, girls and yeah, in in Miami kind of there is officially a girl talk day. He. May Shin during our teen years might let me throughout the accolades Agley lease what? O. J. where it's in. Moment. Good things are happening I. Think I keep going because of the work effects of it that I see actually this week I was just like fatigue. I'm tired, but I know. He's working on some things for girl talk, and one of the twenty nineteen scholarship recipients Romeo instagram randomly and was like I. Just want to thank you for the work that you go. Higher girl not about to do this, but yet to have that coming random hearts recognize like my efforts in my work in pouring into these young ladies if they'll really really good, and it gave me the push I needed to keep going, because although I've been doing the work for so long, I'm at a different capacity in the work. Because now I'm in my career and I'm doing things I'm you know I'm not in college? Because I was doing it in college. I'm not a high school. When I was going to high school, those were all different phases of live. So now doing it from this you know in this season is different because I'm balancing a lot of different things, but. I'm grateful for the Vision and I hope to continue it and connect with more people to support and grow it. Girl Debt. I'm so excited for that because. Clearly this is what you're supposed to be doing. Your the way she's lighten up and smiling is like we have to support you like there's no other thing to do support and I'm like I told you before. I'm ready to jump right in there and do what I do. I got plenty of clothes. Give away, and whatever else for these girls. I'm excited to be a part of whatever you're doing I'm team secure all day period. Thank you so for coming on today because. I needed this good good. It's up to mark Nikki here, but it was. It, we started off rocky off, but we've now that. We needed to do. We needed to get them ready for that conversation, yes. Thank you for having us. Thank you for your crafts and your time in doing this for other women. With guests because we appreciate it. Tell you on the road like Oh my podcast like. Me What are we talking and we appreciate you keeping it at a decent time limit because I will say something. Going over girl came to our fifteen minutes. He's just like, is this? What would? Be, our fifty. Jaba listed. All our. Because sometimes it gets good. Play. I will say you bring you know energy to, and that's what makes it because it doesn't feel like we've been doing this for law I'm sure has. Length of time, so they grew I. Appreciate you. This is only the beginning for an estate. Shakira. Thank you again for being here all right jaw, Yano, to do go ahead and support your girl. In all her endeavors and we'll see on the next one and Bhai.
A good night for Trump in Florida
"It's actually us election. Twenty twenty special coverage nyla boudou. And here's what we're asking right now. What is happening in florida with me from saint petersburg florida politics dot com peter short. So peter we know. Florida has twenty nine electoral college. Votes is a crucial battleground state. What are we seeing right now. Donald trump has over performed the polling. That came into election day. Most of the polling had biden plus one plus two some even had it bigger than that. Donald trump on the strength of not losing miami-dade as much as the registration might suggest and then running up the score in mid sized counties throughout florida sarasota sumter and then holding his own in the population centers like pinellas county. He's putting together a two or three point win as we speak now and he still has the panhandle which is a conservative stronghold a lot of military voters. He should get to probably plus three by the time. The night has ended. peter. What about the senior vote. We heard so much about this before it felt like the seniors who were. Npa's had taken their cues from the president and that's why they turned out today and he did not trump at one the as for years ago against hillary clinton on his way to a one point win and it feels like he has got some sort of residency. I think people should realize that. The latino population is heavily mixed in with the nba. There's a lot of overlaps. Npa no party affiliation so the other we put everything into that third category there and so npa could be anything and people just assume that it's like libertarians. Or something like that. And it's not it's basically a whole mix of people and in that subset are a lot of latino voters which i believe the republicans continue to overperform on because they pay attention to them. I think much better than the state democratic candidates do peter. I wonder how much you think this relates to the cuban american vote in my hometown of miami but also to black lives matter and a backlash against that and conversations. Around wanting to defend the police not defend. The police. think that you're you're spot on there. There definitely seems to be a building and heated rivalry between hispanic communities in south florida. And i'm kind of a respect for strong forms of government and almost authoritarianism versus the the radical left the antifa movement to am just not want to see manipulated but it's been driven home by republicans throughout the state so the governor has proposed anti protest legislation. They all of the mailers. All of the tv when you turn it on. Its its image of northern cities burning and people thinking that that is going to come to miami and other parts of south florida. We're going to be back in fifteen seconds to dive deeper into why this matters. You're listening to special election. Twenty twenty coverage from axios fact. Housing insecurity can harm people's hell. That's what united health group has invested. Five hundred million dollars in a horrible housing just one way leading. The development of the next generation helps us. Thanks for tuning in. I'm nyla boudou and right now. I'm talking with saint petersburg based peter shore sh. He's the guy behind florida. Politics dot com. Peter so i wonder if you can kind of put year analysts had on and think about what this means if donald trump wins florida which is now his home state compared to putting this in context with all the other states for the evening but i think that people like over etcetera are going to say that donald trump goes for maybe a one in ten shot to probably a one in three shot. I think that's the number that i just saw on winning the electoral college. This was a must win for donald trump. His best people were here. You know there was. I mean it seemed like he was here more often than people that go to disneyworld. Were here over the last couple of weeks there may be. There may be a moral victory for democrats in the sense that they had to pin trump down the fact that he was in the villages that he was in sumpter county. That it was in fort myers that he was here the week before the election that he had to spend so much of his time here and not get west to nevada or arizona or colorado or other places. There may be some moral victory at the end of the night. We'll have to see that. I don't think that you can extrapolate a lot about what happened in florida to the other states. There isn't an equivalent to the miami dade cuban community in harrisburg pennsylvania or columbus ohio. And so i'm going to hold off right now saying that as florida so goes the nation. I still think it's you know. Pennsylvania plus you know The sun belt. I think biden looking for a sunbelt win in north carolina georgia florida politics dot com peter shore. Hey peter thanks for making time for us tonight. Thank you for having me on. We'll be back soon. With another urging question and analysis in the meantime checkout actress dot com or the axios app for the latest blue. Thanks for listening. We'll be back in your feed very soon fact. Housing insecurity can harm people's help. That's why united health group has invested five hundred million dollars to help build homes for families in need because having a safe affordable place to live has been proven to help high-risk people stay healthier visit you. Uh dot com to see how united health groups doctors nurses technologists data scientists care advocates and more are leading the development of the next generation health system.
A good night for Trump in Florida
"It's actually us election. Twenty twenty special coverage nyla boudou. And here's what we're asking right now. What is happening in florida with me from saint petersburg florida politics dot com peter short. So peter we know. Florida has twenty nine electoral college. Votes is a crucial battleground state. What are we seeing right now. Donald trump has over performed the polling. That came into election day. Most of the polling had biden plus one plus two some even had it bigger than that. Donald trump on the strength of not losing miami-dade as much as the registration might suggest and then running up the score in mid sized counties throughout florida sarasota sumter and then holding his own in the population centers like pinellas county. He's putting together a two or three point win as we speak now and he still has the panhandle which is a conservative stronghold a lot of military voters. He should get to probably plus three by the time. The night has ended. peter. What about the senior vote. We heard so much about this before it felt like the seniors who were. Npa's had taken their cues from the president and that's why they turned out today and he did not trump at one the as for years ago against hillary clinton on his way to a one point win and it feels like he has got some sort of residency. I think people should realize that. The latino population is heavily mixed in with the nba. there's a lot of overlaps. Npa no-party affiliation so the other we put everything into that third category there and so npa could be anything and people just assume that it's like libertarians. Or something like that. And it's not it's basically a whole mix of people and in that subset are a lot of latino voters which i believe the republicans continue to overperform on because they pay attention to them. I think much better than the state democratic candidates do peter. I wonder how much you think this relates to the cuban american vote in my hometown of miami but also to black lives matter and a backlash against that and conversations. Around wanting to defend the police not defend. The police. think that you're you're spot on there. There definitely seems to be a building and heated rivalry between hispanic communities in south florida. And i'm kind of a respect for strong forms of government and almost authoritarianism versus the the radical left the antifa movement to am just not want to see manipulated but it's been driven home by republicans throughout the state so the governor has proposed anti protest legislation. They all of the mailers. All of the tv when you turn it on. Its its image of northern cities burning and people thinking that that is going to come to miami and other parts of south florida. We're going to be back in fifteen seconds to dive deeper into why this matters. You're listening to special election. Twenty twenty coverage from axios fact. Housing insecurity can harm people's hell. That's what united health group has invested. Five hundred million dollars in a horrible housing just one way leading. The development of the next generation helps us. Thanks for tuning in. I'm nyla boudou and right now. I'm talking with saint petersburg based peter shore sh. He's the guy behind florida. Politics dot com. Peter so i wonder if you can kind of put year analysts had on and think about what this means if donald trump wins florida which is now his home state compared to putting this in context with all the other states for the evening but i think that people like over etcetera are going to say that donald trump goes for maybe a one in ten shot to probably a one in three shot. I think that's the number that i just saw on winning the electoral college. This was a must win for donald trump. His best people were here. You know there was. I mean it seemed like he was here more often than people that go to disneyworld. Were here over the last couple of weeks there may be. There may be a moral victory for democrats in the sense that they had to pin trump down the fact that he was in the villages that he was in sumpter county. That it was in fort myers that he was here the week before the election that he had to spend so much of his time here and not get west to nevada or arizona or colorado or other places. There may be some moral victory at the end of the night. We'll have to see that. I don't think that you can extrapolate a lot about what happened in florida to the other states. There isn't an equivalent to the miami dade cuban community in harrisburg pennsylvania or columbus ohio. And so i'm going to hold off right now saying that as florida so goes the nation. I still think it's you know. Pennsylvania plus you know The sun belt. I think biden looking for a sunbelt win in north carolina georgia florida politics dot com peter shore. Hey peter thanks for making time for us tonight. Thank you for having me on. We'll be back soon. With another urging question and expert analysis in the meantime checkout actress dot com or the axios app for the latest blue. Thanks for listening. We'll be back in your feed very soon fact. Housing insecurity can harm people's help. That's why united health group has invested five hundred million dollars to help build homes for families in need because having a safe affordable place to live has been proven to help high-risk people stay healthier visit you. Uh dot com to see how united health groups doctors nurses technologists data scientists care advocates and more are leading the development of the next generation health system.